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byebyecivilrights/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:36 PM
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Burying the lede imo: The major theories that have been proposed to explain why women have rape fantasies were tested. Results indicated that sexual blame avoidance and ovulation theories were not supported. Openness to sexuality, sexual desirability, and sympathetic activation theories received partial support.
/r/BlackPillScience29/10/22 07:48 PM
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good bot my favorite bot, actually
/r/BlackPillScience29/10/22 07:46 PM
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This is so interesting because I've read multiple studies stating that boys are called on in class more, leading to them participating and speaking much more in class than girls. But for some reason that effect changes when it comes to grades. The potential answers I saw in the paper seem to be: Girls demonstrate "precision, order, modesty, and quietness" and these behaviors lead to higher grades "Teachers wish to avoid possible discrimination against girls as an ability-stigmatized group" The i…
/r/BlackPillScience24/10/22 02:15 PM
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Edited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:20 PM
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I go out to work every day. I don't want to date anyone. I still see men on the train, hold the door for men at the office, and say please and thank you to male waiters, cashiers, etc, while I'm out living my life. You can not "bang a new girl" every other day without straight up ignoring women who aren't wife material. Again, women are people, not just potential wives or sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:22 PM
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dumb "women's" magazines like cosmo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:21 PM
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I’m in college When it comes to dating, college is not the real world. In college, you're forced to be around tons of people your age in a social setting. After college, the only people you're "forced" to be around are your colleagues, 1) assuming you don't work remotely and 2) who you probably shouldn't sleep with if you want to remain professional. Everything else is optional and not, strictly speaking, social. Not many people are striking up conversations at the gas station, or the grocery st…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:15 PM
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I'm not accusing anyone of grooming. And I wasn't even talking about the OP of this post in particular. I'm just saying that it seems like a lot of the posts on this sub seem to be shitting on people (women especially, but men as well) who don't fit a certain standard instead of just stating a preference for the people (women especially, but men as well) who do. EDIT: You deliberately removed the most important part of my post from your quote. If people came on here and said "I want an innocent …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 12:42 PM
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Are you being sarcastic here or did you misunderstand my comment? if a guy says he prefers to only date/marry a virgin, he is automatically a pedo This is not at all what I said, but if that's how you received it, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:59 AM
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if you dare express it then you'll be met with absolute wrath isn't really being allowed to have an opinion. I think it's more the fact that posts like this tend to sound less like "virgins are my preference" and sound more like "my preference is an innocent childlike virginal girl and not a woman who's a dirty disgusting used up slut"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:32 AM
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I don’t ... even look at girls I don’t find a wife material. Women who don't get your dick hard were still human beings, last time I checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 10:41 AM
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You sound like a dick
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:12 AM
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Edit: OBVIOUSLY THIS DOESN’T APPLY TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD AND IS MERELY MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND OBSERVATION OVER TIME
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 03:58 AM
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Dogs HATE two things....being hugged, and having their head patted you're blowing my mind rn https://www.treehugger.com/things-humans-do-that-dogs-hate-4864319
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:46 PM
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It would be easier if he could just say "Hey we fucked, so what, I want nothing to do with you now" and her accept that. But that would be overt communications which is a no-no, so us guys have to revert to using womanese and making it all emotional instead of being rational males and engaging in rational conversation. It would be easier to communicate that from the beginning, instead of pretending to want a relationship with a woman who also wants a relationship. It would also be "rational" to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:28 PM
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Post nut clarity dropping the pretense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:46 AM
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fair point!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:25 PM
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This question, heard through the filter of my low self esteem: Wouldn't letting someone use your body like a fleshlight make you feel less worthless, even though they definitely don't find you attractive and probably don't even like you as a person? Not really, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:15 PM
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He’s handsome press [x] to doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:07 PM
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Holy shit I said "have a tendency." Nowhere am I implying that this is the case for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:41 PM
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Okay that makes sense, thank you. I personally don't have sex because of my low self esteem, but you make very good points!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:47 AM
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If you don't want a kid, don't have sex without a condom. Period. It is not the woman's responsibility to prevent something that you don't want. There is nothing stopping you from sleeping with women who claim to be on birth control while ALSO wearing a condom just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:40 AM
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literally wtf are you saying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:31 AM
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it's up there with some of the most actually predatory shit i've seen here lol I'M the woman with low self esteem and I'VE experienced the predatory behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:30 AM
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OP asked a question. I gave an answer based on my experience which was not in any way framed as "evidence". I'm sorry if what you wanted was a statistics-based, peer-reviewed scientific article, since I love reading those too, but I was under the impression that that's what r/BlackPillScience was for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:49 AM
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Observation based on personal experience and anecdotes from friends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:54 AM
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have a tendency I clearly was not speaking for all women. In all honesty, I was speaking about myself, and friends who have gone through similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:10 PM
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Girls with low self esteem have a tendency to internalize that, and overcompensate by cleaning more often, having more sex , being less combative, etc, to make up for their perceived shortcomings. A lot of men like that. Men with low self esteem have a tendency to externalize that, and overcompensate by acting superior and hypercritical or being unreasonably jealous or suspicious of their partners to make up for their perceived shortcomings. A lot of women don't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:28 PM
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Lol no. Men prefer women who are gorgeous. Women who men find gorgeous are generally wearing makeup. The "no-makeup makeup" look is popular for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:12 PM
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Be honest -- do yall really like women or not? It honestly seems like most of the men making posts on here hate women. You hate the way we look, the way we deal with our emotions, and our opportunities both in life and on the dating market. Why not date men instead -- or just buy a fleshlight? I promise it will be a lot easier for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:31 PM
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I never did until I started getting interested in scientific studies about beauty, attraction and sexuality. And then I found that what I read in those studies was almost always replicated in the dumb reality shows my grandmother was obsessed with. It's actually really interesting to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:02 PM
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realizing the extent of it for a lot of men is just about novelty, ego, and how big a woman's tits/ass are was somewhat disappointing. I learned this from watching shows like Love Island and The Bachelor tbh. Men will talk about personality all day long and then go for the youngest, skinniest, prettiest girl with the biggest boobs and fewest opinions almost every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:27 PM
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Why the fuck are you writing incel in all caps like you're trying to trigger people? Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:44 PM
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we can all have different wants and needs that can be met as long as we’re all honest with each other I agree this is the most important thing. People who want love and affection trying to get that from people who want financial compensation, people who want casual sex trying to get that from people who want genuine companionship, people who want to chill at home trying to get that from people who want to travel the world, etc etc. I find that a lot of times, people value looks and chemistry ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:55 PM
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Lol is this worse than porn? Because that's still a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:19 AM
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you look in the mirror and you feel good because you know that when you do go out in the public, you will look pretty. Sorry, but I disagree. I have low self esteem and body dysmorphia, so I'm not vain at all, but when I put on makeup and look pretty, it's like looking at a pretty flower or a cute baby or something -- it makes me smile. Period. It's not that deep. It has absolutely nothing to do with going out in public because I don't really do that lol. This thread has made me realize it's har…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:24 PM
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During Covid, I started wearing makeup in the house. It wasn't to attract anyone, it was just because it made me look pretty, which made me feel better, which made me less depressed. You're a guy, right? Do you go to the gym regularly? Do you enjoy looking at your muscles and the shape of your body? It's the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:36 PM
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Where did I pull out anything blue pill? I'm just saying that the way you speak about women sounds very bitter and hateful, and it most likely comes across in your day to day interactions with women. It's something you might want to consider looking at. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:00 AM
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never been in a relationship or had sex "Wow, this is what a lot of women actually want? They're pretty fucking stupid." even some dumb bitchy Stacy's It makes me think less of them, it quite frankly makes me think they're vapid and completely not worth my time. These women are all opportunists and should stick with their own kind. Sounds like you really dislike women. Are you sure you want to date one?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:37 PM
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Or the result of children being exposed to porn at earlier and earlier ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:45 PM
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From what I understand (I don't do hookups myself), young women have sex early in relationships because they believe the lies that men tell them, and then they get dumped. Then, after a few years of this, they wise up and stop having sex so easily. At that point men start criticizing them for making them wait when their previous boyfriends didn't have to. Shitty cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:43 PM
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Same thing yall say to women who stay in abusive relationships -- vet better, leave sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:10 PM
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Agreed. The issue isn't having preferences, it's shitting on people who don't fit those preferences. No one gets angry at a man who only dates chaste women until that man goes out of his way to call women with high n counts "hoes" and "sluts". The same with women who only want tall men, or rich men. It shouldn't be that hard to not be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:48 AM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:40 AM
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Many relationships with age gaps are characterized by those negative traits. It is easy, but inaccurate to assume that criticisms of those age gap relationships are criticisms of all age gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:56 AM
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Grooming is bad. Coercion is bad. Abuse ia bad. Manipulation is bad. Can we agree on that? This is where the animosity and disgust is coming from. If the relationship is on equal ground, there's no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:47 AM
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I've known men who "had an edge" but were also reliable and nice. This idea that people can only be one thing at a time is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:44 PM
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in characteristics that actually matter (i.e., not whether hair is long or short, or whether or not you can juggle, or not what whether you wear glasses or not, etc.) are completely homogeneous. So basically, women are liars because all of the many differing characteristics that we find attractive are irrelevant to you? If there's a list of 30 different things and you get rid of 28 then yeah, women's tastes are going to seem homogenous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:42 AM
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Assuming 6 is average: Looks: 4 Money: 9 Personality: 8 Social Circle: 4 Intangibles: 5
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:32 AM
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I know multiple people whose fathers have never paid child support. It's just like paying taxes -- sure, you're supposed to do it, and most people do do it, but there are always people who don't. Either way, paternity fraud is wrong -- I was just being pedantic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:51 PM
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an attack on bodily autonomy Paternity fraud is not an attack on bodily autonomy. It causes a man to make decisions based on a lie (which is what makes it wrong and fraud), but the choices and decisions the man makes are completely under his control. He can 1) choose to be a present father and pay for clothes, schooling, etc, 2) be instructed by the government to pay child support, or 3) peace out and never pay a cent. His bodily autonomy is never threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:45 PM
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Seriously. For most people it will be a harmless formality, and for everyone else, they can discover any weird genetic anomalies, extramarital affairs or potential past sexual assaults immediately, rather than years down the line when the truth can traumatize a child or break up a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:37 PM
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I love beards lol, so I'm always a fan. But I know that's not true for everyone. Bald men with beards, however, are hot to most women -- or at least the ones I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:59 AM
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Bald with beard: usually hot Bald without beard: sometimes hot Balding: never hot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:50 PM
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Agreed. Age gap relationships, at least to me, tend to be a yellow flag. When I see it, I'm then on the lookout for abusive/predatory behavior. But an age gap in and of itself is not inherently problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:20 PM
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lmao this is so fucking dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:18 PM
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No idea, but google says the average income in my neighborhood is a little over $90k/year. So, worst case scenario he makes around $40 - $50k? That's above average for the US, and six figures when combined with my income. I'm fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:12 PM
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"My type" is arrogant rich asshole, so I'll go for the husband lol. No downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:30 PM
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Sanpaku eyes -- when you can see the white space under someone's irises. Examples: Timothee Chalamet, Billie Eilish, Bill Skarsgard. I don't know why it's always so hot to me, but it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:26 AM
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How is this different from blackpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:45 AM
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OP is using cute as a contrast to "chiseled, muscular men." Timothee might not be muscular afaik, but his cheekbones are in the dictionary next to the word chiseled lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:25 PM
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Yeah but Timothee Chalamet's not cute lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:38 AM
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I just want to highlight what I remember from the senior thesis I wrote on this -- that you may know consciously that you don't have a relationship with these people, but your subconscious mind is dumb and doesn't know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:26 PM
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Didn't really have a problem with parasocial relationships until Covid, when I basically isolated for 2 years straight. Now I work from home, haven't traveled to see my friends since before lockdown, and spend most of my time listening to podcasts and streamers during the day and watching youtube/tiktok videos at night. Yeah it's a problem. And I don't know how to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:24 PM
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I'm a woman and I only know one woman personally who has ever done it -- during her college semester abroad, because her scholarship didn't include food money. And she's drop dead gorgeous, so it wasn't like she was going out deliberately looking for dates. She just said yes to more people than usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:57 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:26 AM
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if a woman thinks i just want to fuck why not just not have sex with me? Lol maybe she just doesn't want to fuck you? It's usually not that deep, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:57 PM
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Makeup is not just a way "to artificially increase your own attractiveness." It's expected in many places in society, especially in a professional environment, and failing to wear makeup can result in your peers and/or supervisors not taking you seriously. It's literally not even comparable to PUA. I would compare makeup to facial hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:25 PM
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"Romcoms are porn for women" is not a point the movie was trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:52 AM
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I'm surprised there are no comments in here about Don Jon, Joseph Gordon-Levitt's movie from 2013. It's basically about two people who have a shitty relationship because he's obsessed with porn and she's obsessed with romcoms. They each are looking for something unrealistic in their partners and (until the end) fail to see how unreasonable they're being. Definitely a problem in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:54 PM
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Yeah this is a much better question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:34 AM
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Those are communities, not gurus or leaders or whatever Andrew Tate thinks he is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:44 PM
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Obvious misogynists are easy to spot. Not all abusers are obvious misogynists. There's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:32 PM
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The problem is that men (for the most part) appear to believe that all instances of the friendzone are deliberate, while women (for the most part) appear to believe that all instances of the friendzone are unintentional. I'm sure it's just a matter of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 10:07 PM
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The comment i reposnded to sounded like it was saying "even if a man cares, he'll never know the whole truth." And that just seems depressing to me. Not caring is fine. Being comfortable with dishonesty is is disheartening.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:01 AM
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That is the only reasonable conclusion one can draw after reading this sub for any length of time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:25 AM
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why do you guys even attempt to date anyone if you're so convinced your relationships will be full of lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:54 PM
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You mentioned extravagant lives and passive income. To me, that means money. If you meant something else, I apologize for misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:39 PM
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status =/= money
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:47 PM
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No. I'm not going to look up specific shows and specific writers of specific genders over the course of multiple years. One of the points of statistics is to make conclusions about a larger population from information about a smaller sample size. But if you want that specific information from those specific shows, no one is stopping you from going out and finding it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:59 AM
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I think it was the realization that everything we see on a screen is a choice -- and not just one choice, but multiple choices. A lot of times, I used to rationalize things by saying "well, that male character just happened to be a misogynist," or "that female character just happened to not be super intelligent," or that black guy just happened to be the first one to die" and instead of being from bias, I'd say it must be because it made sense with the story or the screenplay, or whatever. But e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:24 AM
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I just like to see numbers when they're available. But I totally see where you're coming from!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:54 PM
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Pointing out that it's a generational thing makes a lot of sense. Like those awful "isn't my spouse the worst? lol!" jokes that people make fun of on boomer subs. Equally crappy to everyone. And you have a point with those shows because I've always hated both of them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:18 PM
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women have an outsized role as writers in these types of TV shows. Some statistics from 2020: Women were 45.3% of TV series writers and 35.2% of development/pilot writers. BIPOC women made up 21.4% of TV series writers and 9.9% of development/pilot writers. BIPOC men made up 15.3% and 13.2%, respectively. White women comprised 25.9% of TV series writers and 25.9% of development/pilot writers. There are a lot of staff writers in newsrooms and things like that, but for scripted series and sitcoms,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:12 PM
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it always needs to either be men's fault, or to ''really, somehow, in some hidden, counterintuitive way'' be actually more of a problem for women. I wasn't saying that at all lol. I was trying to say that it sucks equally for both parties, but I didn't realize that until I got older. As a girl, I saw things from only the female perspective. But as a teenager and a college student, I started to see things differently. I was in no way saying it was men's fault or more of a problem for women -- I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:30 PM
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That's entirely possible. I think (no science, just my opinion) a similar thing is why a lot of men hold such profound resentment and dissatisfaction with the world today. Media tells (or at least used to tell) men that they get to be dumb and lazy and the butt of the joke and not super attractive and they can still have a great job, a nice house, and a hot wife for no other reason than because they're a man. That's how it works for male tv characters, after all. So I can only imagine that when …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:27 PM
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Women love the pushy wife/stupid husband routine ????? Maybe women you know lol. I don't like it, and I've conversations with female friends of mine and they don't like it either, especially because they don't date stupid men. It's in advertising because (and I learned this when I interned at a marketing company so fair warning it might be out of date) market research says that women do most of the shopping for household items, so naturally they're going to be the ones with agency in most commer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:22 PM
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I agree with this. As a young girl growing up, I hated that the women in commercials and tv sitcoms always had to be hot and sexy, while the men got to be dumb and lazy and still managed to be happy and get everything they wanted. And then as I went to college and started taking film and media classes, I started wondering why the men in commercials and TV sitcoms always had to be dumb and lazy, while the women got to be hot and sexy. It's funny how media literacy changes your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:18 PM
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for 40 years. That explains it!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:00 PM
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Have you ever taken care of a baby? They like to yell, scream, eat things that will kill them, jump on things that will kill them...you can say a lot of things about child-rearing, but boring and easy are two words I've never heard anyone apply to babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:20 PM
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You specified in your post that: He takes care of the kids and housework So in my mind, that means we have an agreement that "he takes care of the kids and housework. For me, that would mean that he takes care of most things that come up while I'm at work. I'd obviously clean up after myself and any messes I made either in the morning before I left, or in the evening when I got home, because my mess is my responsibility. If I cooked, I'd probably do the dishes because I tend to cook and clean si…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:24 PM
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I'm 5'8", so anyone my height or taller is fine. Maybe I'd drop it if the person I'm talking to is really great in another way -- personality, face, body, job, whatever -- but I was bullied a lot as a kid for being too tall, so I don't really see that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:52 PM
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When I was in high school, I really wanted to take pole dancing lessons, but my friend wouldn't go with me and I was too shy to go by myself. If I had done so, I 100% would have stripped in college for extra money. Not sure if I would have done anything more than that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:07 PM
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Women are the prize because women are objectified. Where is the superiority?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 07:09 PM
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Ideal partner: Bob Belcher but a dom lol Ideal self: the me that exercises regularly, diets consistently, goes to therapy, and has enough self-confidence to be in politics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 07:04 PM
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Mental health issues. I used to avoid relationships because I didn't know what was wrong with me but I knew I wasn't in a healthy space. Now I know what's wrong with me, so I'm going to address that before entering the dating world. I'll be in my mid 30s, so I'll too old for most things, but at least I won't have hurt anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:19 PM
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All human beings deserve respect. Nothing, even wearing something revealing or committing an actual crime, changes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:23 PM
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From old people being nice? Yes. From people wanting to hit on me? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:44 PM
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A woman in a crop top is a human being who deserves respect. A woman in a hijab is a human being who deserves respect. A woman in a leather miniskirt is a human being who deserves respect. A woman in a nun's habit is a human being who deserves respect. A woman in a bikini is a human being who deserves respect. A woman in a 3 piece suit is a human being who deserves respect. A woman in a skintight dress is a human being who deserves respect. A woman in oversized overalls is a human being who dese…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:42 PM
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It is sexual harassment if guys stare at them like pieces of meat and follow them around the neighborhood and catcall them in the street. In general, women don't tend to complain about being looked at. We're always being looked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:49 PM
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I'm not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:00 AM
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personal chef, personal trainer, therapist spend the rest on a non profit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:13 AM
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Wouldn’t you know after a couple times at least that physical abuse isn’t normal? When it's what you grew up with, or what you saw around you, or the only thing you've ever experienced, then no. Either you think it's normal or that, even if it isn't normal, you deserve it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:01 PM
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it assigns blame to the man for “causing” the loss of attraction I disagree. Sometimes this is accurate, but usually it's for random shit that one wouldn't necessarily expect to have that effect. If anything, it removes blame from either party, taking it from a deliberate action to an incomprehensible phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:20 PM
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Yes I own a dictionary, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:46 AM
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As I said. I understand where you are coming from. And I understand how men can view withholding sex as punishment even in cases when it is not meant to be so. I also understand that men have reasonable reasons for wanting to pursue younger women. I said that OP in particular was punishing women, and I maintain that OP in particular is punishing women, specifically because OP mentioned schadenfreude. If that word hadn't been in the post, I wouldn't have commented.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:42 AM
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IMO you and OP aren't saying the same thing. But I see where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:17 AM
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Women withhold sex for lots of reasons. Not wanting to be slut shamed, not wanting to be pregnant, not wanting to waste time with someone who's going to dump them in a week or two, wanting to see if a man really likes her, wanting to see his reaction to being told no, etc etc. Some of those things are more reasonable than others, but none of them are punishments. Do you see the difference? If the question was "why give a woman your age a chance when you know they're likely to hurt you/lie to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:41 PM
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The real question is -- why are you punishing women you've just met for the behavior of women they've never met?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:15 PM
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women are evil liars? i don't know, seems like that's the point of most of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:27 PM
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Awesome. Thanks so much for the information!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:32 PM
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That's totally true! I was more talking about paid labor in a workforce, which, again, you can see in statistics showing the rise in the percentage of women workers over time. No one's saying women were slaves lol. If you check statistics from a number of different sources, you will see more and more women joining the workforce between about 1950 to about 2000, at which point it levels off. That's the only point I was trying to make. Even if you ignore that, it's factual that: Companies were all…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:56 PM
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You might be right! I just googled statistics on the percentage of women in the workforce, but it's 100% not my area of expertise. If you know more and I'm wrong, then I take it back!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:39 PM
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Fair point! I was looking at an earlier time period because of this line: For example, many of my uncles are short, brown dudes who came to the UK around the 60s But you're totally right -- women worked!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:45 PM
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Oh that's absolutely true! I was just saying that the fact that women didn't work outside the house as often meant they didn't always have their own income, which obviously affected their dating strategies. That's all I was saying. But you're both right, women were 100% working.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:26 PM
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https://www.fireweatheravalanche.org/fire/current-list-of-us-wildfires
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:44 PM
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Oh yes absolutely! My point was that since women didn't have jobs outside the home as frequently, they were bringing in less money, and so their romantic aspirations were colored, at least in part, by the need for an income. When culture dictates that a man support you (at least financially), you're naturally going to be less picky. But yes, they absolutely had more work to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:00 PM
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The increase of women in the paid workforce was arguably the most significant change in the economy in the past century. In the U.S., women’s participation in the labor market has nearly doubled, from 34% of working age women (age 16 and older) in the labor force in 1950 to almost 57% in 2016. When it passed 50% in 1978, working women became the norm. https://hbr.org/2018/01/when-more-women-join-the-workforce-wages-rise-including-for-men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:20 PM
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Are there people who don't believe this? Women worked less and needed men more, men had (proportionally) more resources, people were thinner, people were social instead of being online 24/7, the planet was not literally on fire -- of course dating was easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:53 PM
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But I believe it's rarer to be an unatractive woman It's not. Unattractive men are visible in a way that unattractive women are not. People (especially men) talk a lot about how easy it is for women to be attractive and how rare it is to see an unattractive woman, but that's because women hat don't pass a certain bar for attractiveness are just invisible. We don't count in those situations because we're not even seen -- we don't even register as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:35 PM
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If a man will leave a woman for not having sex with him, despite how kind, caring, compassionate, intelligent, etc she is, whose fault is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:34 PM
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Nope! He was my favorite from the first episode he was in -- hot in the beginning and hot till the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:10 AM
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This guy on Netflix's alone: https://www.history.com/shows/alone/cast/biko-wright Granted, he said he gained most of the weight deliberately so he could last longer on the show, but still hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:30 PM
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That's a toxic relationship for you. The lows are low, but the highs are so high that you forget about the bad parts. Happens to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:31 PM
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Agreed especially because I just finished watching Alone (that show on Netflix where people have to survive in the wilderness) and watching a man hunt, fish, and build a house from the ground up is a different kind of attraction. Cutting down trees? Carrying basically an entire deer across 2 miles of forest? Building a log cabin with roof, window, doors, and a fireplace with nothing but a saw and elbow grease? Whew.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:37 AM
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average = what I see on tv
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:52 PM
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relatability, oversharing This is it. Even with female rappers in the 90s, who sometimes emphasized more masculine behaviors in order to prove themselves, there was a star quality that all of them had because we didn't know or perceive them as real people. They were always stars, artists, celebrities. People now are just...people. Especially with the rise of reality TV and social media, it's pretty clear that anyone can be famous. Which makes fame significantly less impressive.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/22 04:37 PM
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I agree that dominance is tied to masculinity. But imo, dominance can be violent, like the subjugation you described, or it can be gentle. The gentle dominance I'm thinking of is tied, in my mind at least, to being a protector and a provider. I've also spoken to men about this and they've mentioned that mentoring young men as well as volunteering and spending time in community with other men their age and older (at church, on a sports team, etc) helped them feel more secure in their own masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:05 AM
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I'm not discriminating between men -- I'm talking in general. I have friends who've dated those men who are less fit, less attractive, starved for affection, etc deliberately, thinking they'll be nicer than the fuckboys they've dated in the past. Guess what? They're assholes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 03:41 AM
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I mean, I don't think someone who actually gives a shit about you is a high standard, but men seem to get really upset when I mention it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 03:57 AM
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A woman needs a laundry list; a man just needs the laundry room. Not to ignore the rest of your completely logical post, but wtf is this supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:02 PM
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Is it? The women I know with long lists of requirements care about religion, education, money, politics, etc, because they're looking for a person they vibe with, connect with, can fall in love with, etc. When you're looking for a glorified hookup, baby maker, or live in housekeeper, none of that stuff really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:01 PM
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Are women aware that most men don't give a shit about them, they just want a hot chick who will fuck them and cook them dinner? Yeah. We are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:05 PM
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Not sure what you'd like me to do about that, but sorry you've had bad experiences!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:36 AM
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Wow that sounds awful! So sorry that happened to you. Hopefully your next interaction is more helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:38 PM
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I assumed, that's why I answered how I did! Not sure who downvoted you, but I can tell you it wasn't me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:20 AM
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That's definitely possible, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:26 AM
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As a black woman, this is completely unsurprising to me. People try to tell me all the time that I'm just making it up or it's just a cope or whatever, but facts are facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:22 PM
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Why lie when you can say you'd rather not discuss it or even make a joke about it instead? Lying tends to cause more problems than it solves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:05 PM
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Yes. I was moved from a co-ed school to an all girls school in 7th grade and my social skills never recovered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:50 AM
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The only women who count as women are beautiful women. This is obviously the way many men think. "Women live on easy mode." "Women don't have to work if they don't want to." "Men bend over backwards for any woman they see." "Women have dozens of orbiters and simps on standby." Clearly this is only true for a certain (young, thin, conventionally attractive) kind of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:28 PM
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I like buying nice things for myself, so I have a job lol. I enjoy my job, so I do my best to get better at it. It has literally nothing to do with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:51 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:43 PM
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Many of the girls I see on Tiktok ... use non-binary they/them pronouns. You sure they're girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:21 AM
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you don't like a bit of milque with your toast? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:57 PM
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I used to think it'd be interesting to know why that's so, but have come to the realization I don't really care. Definitely need to start putting my peace of mind above my curiosity lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:22 PM
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The thing I find interesting is that men's questions towards women tend to get answered in good faith, sometimes with a slightly frustrated tone in cases when the answer is a lot simpler than the man is making it out to be. But women's questions towards men tend to get answered with this accusatory vitriol, as if the woman asking the question has personally ruined the man's life. Even when the question is literally just being asked out of curiosity. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:10 PM
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I'm just paranoid lol. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:22 PM
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Bald and balding are very different. Trying to hold onto a head of hair that's long gone is never. Shaving it off and just rocking a bald head can be hot. But it depends on the person, like all hairstyles, because not everyone has the same face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:43 PM
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This is a really good point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:37 PM
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Of course! Hence the question lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:34 PM
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I was just talking about dating standards, not standards for sexual partners. I think it's been fairly well established that getting a man to sleep with you is meaningless. But that's interesting data!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:27 PM
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Really? I don't know any women who are reluctant to lose weight lol. Defeated, disappointed, hopeless, traumatized, annoyed, self-loathing, obsessive compulsive, anxious, sure. Reluctant? I've never met one. Even skinny girls I know are scared of losing weight. Reluctant isn't one I've seen. But body issues affect everyone differently so that's entirely possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:26 PM
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This is the answer I was expecting tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:40 AM
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Bald can be hot. Balding is never hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:25 AM
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okay that's probably true lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:54 PM
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Oh! No. I just saw the other thread about height, which I thought was interesting, so I wanted to see the other side and the thing I've heard men compare height to the most is weight/fitness. Not defending or attacking anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:53 PM
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Oh my god I am not a man lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:49 PM
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Same. When I was an underweight minor I got catcalled, followed, harassed, etc. When I was a normal weight teenager, exponentially less. It was a relief at the time, but now it just makes me terrified for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:45 PM
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it's probably best to not discriminate at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:37 PM
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men care a lot more about height than Reddit acknowledges Very true! As someone who's 5'9", I agree that rejection/fetishization are definitely a thing when it comes to non-average heights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:33 PM
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I was literally just looking for pictures that showed a bunch of women at different weights. You're right, the percentages probably aren't right, but the number isn't really the point, it's more the body composition. But you're right, I should have made that clearer. I'll add that to my post. Thank you for explaining!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:24 PM
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I understand my own physiology. How does me asking a question about male preferences mean I don't understand my own body?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:18 PM
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I'm a woman lol. Not trying to take down anyone -- just interested in people's opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:15 PM
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There's no burden -- no one's trying to get you to be fat or date fat women lol. I'm just trying to get an idea of the weight limit for women, just like the other post was trying to get an idea of the height limit for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:12 PM
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Yeah I know. I wanted to do a comparable question to the post about men's height. That's usually compared to weight, but a tall woman and a short woman can weigh the same and look completely different. I was trying to find something that made sense, but it's kind of hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:11 PM
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exponentially worse for each image after that I definitely agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:36 PM
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Lmao true. I almost asked for weight, as I've heard some men talk about having women step on scales and things, but that varies for height. You can't say "no women over 125" and then try and date someone who's 5'11" because then they'll be underweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:07 PM
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IMO dating implies a relationship. Otherwise I'd just say sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:01 PM
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well articulated passion This is it! I once listened to a guy talk about film scores for an hour because of how much he knew and how obviously passionate he was about it. If a man can teach me something random I've never heard of before, I'll fall in love with him. If a man tries to mansplain something I and most people already know, I'll want to punch him in the face lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:56 PM
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Thank you for the detailed answer. Seems like this is true for a lot of men, especially the last point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:50 PM
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Comparable in that height is generally the first thing women notice and tends to be a dealbreaker and weight is generally the first thing men notice and tends to be a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:48 PM
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I mean, yeah that's generally true. It's not a question, though, so I'm not sure how you want me to respond to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:45 PM
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I'd still smash, but I will feel disappointed in myself. But the question is about dating. Obviously men will sleep with fat women, but will they take them out to nice dinners? To meet the parents? To hang out with their friends? That's a little less clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:42 PM
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Yep, that seems to be the overall opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:41 PM
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I don't know -- I was just looking for a general picture. It might be completely inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:40 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:39 PM
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lmaoooooo i'm imagining someone floating by their asscheeks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:38 PM
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Very thin girls don't age well. This is a really good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:38 PM
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I'm wondering if they can be too thin for men, not too thin in general. There are loads of women suffering from bulimia and anorexia whose partners love them being tiny and actively work against their efforts to get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:37 PM
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the hourglass figure starts to erode. It makes sense that the shape is what matters more than the specific fat percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:36 PM
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Agreed it hasn't swung very far, but even using Kim K as the example, she's already reversed her BBL, lost 20lbs, and is back to thinner proportions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:35 PM
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I've heard this -- I'm just saying that men seem to prefer thinner women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:34 PM
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The overweight and obesity rate in women is too high especially in the US compared to most other countries That's certainly true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:02 PM
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I’d say my standards are pretty reasonable all things considered I'm not making judgements, just interested in hearing people's opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:01 PM
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This is a good addition. After marriage and time, opinions might change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:00 PM
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I did one with women because people like to compare men's height to women's weight. But here's a similar image for men if you're interested: https://legionathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/blogpost\_Males\_Legion-Larger-Numbers.png
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:58 PM
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I find it interesting that no one is mentioning the other extreme. Men can be too tall, but can women be too thin? Doesn't seem so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:57 PM
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I just googled and apparently the average american woman is at 40% body fat. It's interesting that, at least in the US, the average man is tall enough for most women, but the average woman is likely too fat for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:55 PM
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Same. It's weird to see the pendulum starting to swing back in the other direction, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:50 PM
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"Believe women" doesn't mean believe every single word that comes out of every single woman's mouth ignoring evidence. It means to take claims of abuse and assault seriously so that the truth can be found. If a woman says she was assaulted and the police laugh her off, there's no chance for justice -- either for her or the person she accused. At least in this case, we were able to find out the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:37 PM
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Edited, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:24 PM
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Ignoring the backlash idea because other comments are addressing that already, I think the takeaway is that reputation is hugely important to rmv, smv and moving through the world in general. Amber Heard is a thin pretty white woman with no kids, but no one's going to touch her now because of this trial's damage to her reputation. Johnny Depp is an attractive, successful, established worldwide celebrity, and his PR team had to set up this trial and orchestrate an entire media circus around it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:51 AM
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Depends on the height of the women you're going for. Women tend to like men who are taller than them, so as long as you go for women who are at least an inch or two shorter than you, it shouldn't really be a problem. So: 1 inch shorter than ideal woman same height 2 inches taller a head taller
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:41 AM
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Things like intelligence, dedication, competence, talent and passion are all really attractive, at least to me, and a man who is successful is likely to have at least some of those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:33 AM
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Cats and asmr lol. I'm terrified of massages because I know I might do something horrifying like cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:13 PM
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Rapist Brock Turner who was convicted of not one not two but three counts of felony sexual assault Brock Turner?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:12 PM
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Men also don’t do that ew you are disgusting shit to a woman’s face. I can tell you from experience that this is untrue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:36 PM
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Some women tend to assume exclusivity when seriously dating. Doing nice things tends to give women like this the impression that you're in a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:35 PM
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not every woman was beautiful once
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:31 PM
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Or a non zero number of potentially dangerous situations will turn into definitely dangerous gunfights.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:59 AM
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r/gonewildaudio
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:50 PM
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I've read this too -- that men and porn lie about size so often that women have a warped sense of size and nobody really knows what they're talking about anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:32 PM
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I don't understand why men who don't want children just don't get a vasectomy Because they don't care about having children. They just don't want to have to raise or pay for them. Women would benefit from men having vasectomies, which is why it so rarely happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:08 PM
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Don't think too much about "real masculinity." Just try to be a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:41 AM
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Not all of us. That's literally the point of the study. What you call options, a lot of us see as just friends. If a man chooses to keep his intentions a secret, how is it the woman's fault for not reading his mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:00 AM
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I love studies like this because a lot of men really believe that women deliberately keep an army of men on speed dial ready to date, but that's really not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:59 AM
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The two examples I gave -- remembering a birthday and washing a dish every once in a while -- are the two specific examples that I can remember from my own life. It's happened before, I just don't remember what they were on reference to. In social media, I remember it being used in reference to an article about men feeding their own children or taking them to school. Again, the bare minimum for a human being that the man helped create. And I think men and women just have different standards. Sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:37 PM
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Not in your experience, which I fully agree is most likely different from mine. But I've seen it happen a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:42 PM
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I don't entirely disagree with you, but I just want to clarify that the statement "the bar is on the floor" is not the same as "all men are trash", at least in my opinion. "The bar is on the floor" specifically means that men who do the bare minimum are praised like they're curing cancer. I usually hear it when women are talking about how great their boyfriends are for, I don't know, remembering a birthday or something. Aka the bare minimum. That doesn't mean that there aren't good men out there…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:14 PM
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My dad died when I was really young, so I grew up with my mother and all her female friends. I was one of those "men are only good for taking out the trash," "romantic relationships are a scam," "money is more important than a husband" type girls. But when I got older, I realized that everything my mother taught me came from a place of grief and loss, not from a realistic view of men and women and how the world works. I'm not a tradcon by any stretch of the imagination, but I do recognize now th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:05 PM
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You have no one else to blame but yourself for why you will inevitably end up alone- due to your judgmental relationship with sex. And then there are tons of guys who will say that sleeping around is why women will end up alone. No matter what we do, it seems like it's always women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:00 PM
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Not unattractive, but fat -- I don't date. Ever. I was rejected a lot in college by men I wasn't even trying to hit on, so now I avoid social situations try not to talk to men if I don't have to so that doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:59 PM
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Then why would men ever expect respect from women, given the way they treat them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:06 PM
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For both men and women, I don't care what the gender is, NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO ANYONE'S TIME OR FRIENDSHIP. Full stop. Agreed! I just believe that when you realize your feelings are no longer platonic, you should say something, instead of waiting around for years putting in friendship and expecting sex to fall out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:46 PM
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so date men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:19 PM
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Watch my 600lb life. Any given episode will have some depressed person who won't go to therapy eating themselves into an early grave. And 9 times out of 10 they're either married or living with a significant other who takes care of them. For better or worse, there's someone out there for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:33 PM
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soft “harems” with women. Thank you for the correct spelling. Feel like I'm losing my mind reading all these "harams."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:52 PM
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Saying it's painful for women does not negate the fact that it hurts for men as well. Again, I was simply trying to give another perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:57 AM
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Yeah you're right. I'm sorry. Women are completely shallow and superficial and only care about looks so why even try dating anyone ever if you aren't a model. Thank you for helping me see the error of my ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:46 PM
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What I'm saying is that in person, you take in all of those things at the same time, and so height, cologne, humor, vibe, etc. are all a part of whether or not you find someone attractive. It's not like you see someone's face, decide whether they're attractive or not, and then decide to acknowledge the rest of them. Example: My first year of college, I had a huge crush on this guy in my freshman astronomy class. Was he super handsome in the face? Not really. But he was really tall and really int…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:21 PM
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I never said personality was "so" important. I agree that if a woman doesn't think a man is attractive, she won't care about the personality. My point is just that IN PERSON attractiveness is a combination of a lot of things -- not just physical features. And that's why sometimes women think their exes are ugly after a breakup, because what they were attracted to in the beginning wasn't primarily physical appearance. But tinder doesn't have all the other things. That's all I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:53 PM
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I'm saying the first impression is just your looks. Sure you can arrange a face to face meeting, but you have to swipe right first. And that's a lot less likely to happen when, as I said, all you have is your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:37 PM
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why/how would women's standards be so drastically different IRL? There are lots of different ways to be attractive in person -- have a nice voice, be the perfect height, wear amazing cologne, open doors like aragorn, let a woman share your umbrella, tell hilarious jokes, etc etc etc. On tinder, all you have is your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:15 PM
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I'm 5'8", so shorter than, like, 5'7" is short to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:25 PM
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ah yes, the exact response I was expecting. thank you for your service, random redditor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:28 PM
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To suggest it's just men's fault I wasn't saying that at all -- just thought giving some context to this specific experience might be helpful, because it's happened to me and many women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:27 PM
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complain so loud it echoes in the hills when it blows up in their faces Women complain loudly about this because realizing that someone you thought loved you and was a close friend was actually just pretending to give a shit about you because he wanted to get into your pants is one of the worst feelings ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:26 PM
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How? Personally I’m not attracted to someone fat, so I wouldn’t want to have sex with them, and their education wouldn’t somehow make the fat look sexy. Study: Rich Men Give Women More Orgasms Education won't but the money might lmaooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:37 PM
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If you can't find any women to date that meet your standards, then yes you should lower them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:35 PM
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Yeah, I don't know how many times this has to be proven. Women like height and money, men like youth and beauty. It's not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:34 PM
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Lmao what do you think playboy and onlyfans are, my guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 11:11 PM
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more like "sociopaths are good at acting like what women want"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:28 PM
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I think the reason why so many people are disagreeing with you is you didn't include a qualifier. I agree that most men want a woman who is equal or lesser in some way, just as most women want a man who is equal or greater in some way. But the way is different for everyone. Some men want virgins (less sexual experience), some women want professors (more education), some men want young women (less life experience), while some women want bad boys (more street smarts), and so on and so forth. It is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:51 PM
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it's this lol i'm obsessed with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:30 PM
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I’m starting to think that nobody collectively brings down men more than other men. you did it! you broke toxic masculinity down to its bare essentials!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:42 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:25 PM
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They never need to do anything to enhance their dating life Comments like this remind me that when yall say "women," you're mostly referring to young, beautiful, able bodied, white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:45 AM
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Sorry. What I mean to say is that women can't tell from looking if a man is going to murder her for saying no. EDIT: to the person who replied saying something like "anyone can murder you" and then deleted their comment -- it's 7 times more likely to be a dude, my guy. https://www.statista.com/statistics/251886/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-gender/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:38 PM
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trap them by acting If this doesn't sound like manipulation to you, I'm concerned for whoever you end up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:15 PM
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There isn't a saying because every man has the potential to be dangerous, and we know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:10 PM
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That's the general impression I get as well. Maybe it's because I usually just read the top posts, but that's equally damning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:06 PM
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You can hop on Reddit. Go to the lonely men subs. Thirst trap them by acting sweet homely and sexually adventurous and watch the men eat it up. Manipulating miserable people in order to dupe a man into sleeping with them with is not generally what women have in mind when they ask for dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:53 PM
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I don't want to date white men lol. I just mean that the people I normally see IRL complaining about how easy women have it are white guys. So I tend to ignore this whole idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:09 PM
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a darker skinned WOC They never think of us as women unless it's a porn category
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:01 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with mandatory DNA tests. If no one's cheating and everything's legit, it won't be a problem. If the couple has an open relationship or they met when the woman was pregnant already, it won't be a problem. If someone raped the woman and she doesn't remember it, if the fertility doctor secretly switched out the sperm for his own, if the woman cheated and never verified who the father is, or in any other crappy situation -- I think it's always better to know in advance, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:13 PM
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Unless you're secretly a government official, you haven't oppressed anyone and I promise you I don't care who you date. It's just rude and unnecessary to talk about anyone like this. most college women are drunks that consume anti-depressants and Adderall like it's candy. They have so many problems of just being happy. They legit think that if life isn't some Coachella festival then they are depressed and need dopamine boosters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:04 PM
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Oh, I completely understand. Just trying to give another perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:06 PM
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tell me you don't understand depression without telling me you don't understand depression
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:04 PM
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IMO it's only an issue if you're asking women out when we're busy, i.e. buying groceries, on the way to work, at the gym, etc. If we're out at the bar or a club or a zoo or a concert or a farmer's market or a board game meetup or chilling in the park, or one of those post-race meetups or whatever -- it's totally fine. Basically, if you're somewhere to socialize, there's nothing wrong with socializing. If you're somewhere to get things done (or it's the middle of the night and she's on her guard)…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:30 PM
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The “bar” for height for most women is taller than them, but that’s really only for men who crush other aspects of her standards. She really wants a man significantly taller than her and significantly taller than the average man. Education wise the bar is at her education level. Women use education more so for social status rather than a means to meaningful employment. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:13 PM
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Uh no. Listen to any podcast, go on relationshipadvice, or check out any of the red pill subs. The constant advice given to women is "lower your standards," "stop looking for men over 6 feet", "don't expect a male model", etc etc. So men can't be mad when we do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:06 PM
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Because it undermines their "cHOoSE bETteR meN" comeback
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:25 PM
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People tend to hate the addictions of their spouses. Video gaming is a pretty common addiction in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:56 PM
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paying money for 18 years < paying money AND being a primary caregiver for the rest of your life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:21 PM
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Disagree. A "feminist from your own social category" will be comfortable with the lifestyle because she was born into it and so it's familiar. Although marrying the maid might work fine, it might not. The maid could either experience culture shock and not fit in, leading to divorce from the rich person's side, or, after jumping from one class to another, decide that this isn't enough for her and try to climb the social ladder some more, leading to divorce from the maid's side.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:37 PM
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the cliché lists of "requirements" women put on dating apps. You know, the ones that weed out 99.98% of the male population. I don't really see the problem with this list. What's wrong with wanting to be compatible from a cultural/religious/educational/financial standpoint -- doesn't that just eliminate most of the arguments a newly married couple might have?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:35 PM
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Sharp jawlines, broad shoulders, deep voices, height, and chivalry are all masculine things that you can have even if you're not a big, husky, bearded dude. Women are still attractive to masculinity, just in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:37 PM
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