TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

cactusbeam777 Archive

View 0 posts and 340 comments by cactusbeam777 on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Upvotes Title Category Author Subreddit Date (UTC)
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
1

Nope. I mean sure if you're a loser in your teens, 20s, and 30s then things aren't going to magically turn around. But if you keep growing, striving, and improving, then life can always be a fun exciting adventure. It's up to you how you want to live your life, you just have to make a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:08 AM
–

Women here just discovering for the first time that men love jargon and then claiming that it's "autistic" lol. Do you not know men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:03 AM
1

If someone "scientifically proved" mushrooms taste good, I'd still find them disgusting, And yet there are some things that are widely acknowledged to be "an acquired taste" almost as if there is a wide ranging consensus about which foods are obviously pleasant to a wide variety of people and those which are a little weird and more controversial. If you say you think mushrooms are gross, most people in the US at least aren't going to find that strange. But in a way this is an entirely different …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:41 AM
1

Looks are completely subjective. They're really not though. There are scientific studies that show that measurable traits like symmetry affect perceived beauty. And even if it's not perfectly objectively measurable in a scientific way, there's enough of a consensus understanding around it that we should be able to have a productive discussion about it without throwing our hands up and saying "who knows, it's all subjective". It's similar to something like intelligence or charisma. Intelligence i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:39 PM
1

It's true, a woman who is insecure or unsure of her worth might date down before she realizes her true worth and her league is "corrected". I think once that happens, that person should be able to consistently get into serious relationships with other people in that league.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:31 PM
1

Point taken. I do think it's more common that a man will casually string along a woman he's not really serious about for easy sex, and the opposite basically never happens, at least looks wise. A woman might casually date a guy who is hot but not relationship material. I think men and women both sometimes feel like they're settling down in relationships but with women it's probably more common that she had casual experiences with more attractive men and with men it's probably more common that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:28 PM
1

I would say the best you can do for a LTR is what you've proven to be your league although some people may have untapped potential and settle beneath their league and never discover their true league. Maybe for women it's their best ltr and for men their best casual sex partner? A drunk guy having a one night stand with a woman that he's not that attractive to is a misleading measurement of her league and an unattractive rich guy marrying a beautiful woman who is only after his money is a mislea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:36 PM
1

I re-read your post and see the point you're making. I don't believe that "your league is who you can get" so I was arguing against that. I do believe that there are fairly objective "looks matches" or to put it a better way, there are couples that most people would agree are noticeably mismatched and usually we assume the less attractive person is making it up in some other way. I think when most people say "league" they're usually thinking of a holistic assessment of a person's appeal but it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:33 PM
1

I'm obviously no expert in logic or philosophy so I'll concede the point. But I think what we're talking about here most of the time is consensus opinion. If you show a million people a picture of a couple and the vast majority agree that the woman is attractive and the man is ugly and he's dating way out of his league, that seems like something that we should be able to agree on and discuss without just shutting it down by saying "well it's all just completely subjective". Obviously there are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:27 PM
1

Unfortunately in my personal experience it hasn't quite worked that way. My job is based more on measured results and output. The job I have now is the same job title and salary as my last job but I'm really being underused. It's hard to explain without getting too specific, but the point is that you can sometimes be an objectively skilled and experienced person who just through luck and timing and overall market conditions has trouble finding a job that's a good fit. In the same way that somebo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:23 PM
1

Let's say I concede that looks are completely subjective and there is no objective way to measure them. Can you at least admit that when large populations of people across multiple cultures reach a broad consensus about a particular subjective quality, then that consensus takes on at least some quality of being an objective truth? Like "ice cream tastes better than dog shit" would not be a controversial opinion anywhere on earth in any culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:52 PM
1

The job analogy is a good one but your conclusion is 100% wrong. I'm objectively underemployed at the moment. By that I mean, the tasks and responsibilities I'm being given at work are far beneath my actual skills and experience based on past jobs. But I was forced into this position due to tough times in the industry I'm in. I know my real potential and I've lived up to it in the past. If I were to start my own company I could probably display that to the world and achieve that level again, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:48 PM
1

The problem is that imo it's not really a spectrum. There's a fairly hard cutoff from attractive to unattractive. For a guy who is an 8, sleeping with a 7 is no problem, she's still hot. But if a guy is a 6, objectively decently cute, but has to date a 5 who is kind of plain jane and has some objectively unattractive features, that's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:42 PM
1

That's great but the point still stands. You're admitting that one experience shifted your perspective on your whole sense of self worth. I've experienced the same thing of raising my own standards significantly after being insecure and unsure of myself, so I totally get it. But it's also possible that some women might have a drunken hookup with a guy out of her league and have it raise her sense of her league inaccurately, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:40 PM
1

Disagree, there has been loads of scientific research about it. Obviously there are some minor subjective tastes but overall beauty can basically be assessed objectively. That's like saying that you hate ice cream but love eating dogshit therefore taste is just completely subjective. You can't just handwave away those broad consensuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:37 PM
1

We can objectively look at couples and see who is more attractive and sometimes wonder “why are they together”. Looks aren’t some totally subjective mystery
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:05 PM
2

This is the perfect illustration of how one experience can permanently inflate a woman’s standards. What if he felt like he was dating down and just decided to give you a shot anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:04 PM
2

It's a fact that some men will sleep downward for easy casual sex. This doesn't have to mean they're sleeping with ugly women, it might just be a guy who's an 8 having casual sex with a string of 6s who are cute, have nice bodies, and are fun in bed and treat him like a king. But he's not going to marry those women so when they want to settle down they have to settle with a guy who is also a 6. Their sense of their own smv is inflated and they might never be fully satisfied with the guy they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:56 PM
–

It’s easy to be skeptical but the reality is that there are women who are truly attracted to other women but they have no idea how to approach, flirt, or escalate, and they friendzone themselves every time they make a connection with an attractive woman. Their standards are usually very high too and they like very stereotypically feminine women. They’re basically waiting around for some 10/10 hottie to sweep her off her feet and take the lead but that never happens and the bi or lesbian women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:35 PM
2

Every. Single. Time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:09 PM
2

Yes, depending on the social circle you're talking about and how you define good men, I think there definitely is. If you understand what women want then you can observe that there aren't enough of those kind of guys to go around. And that's not even talking about "marriageable" but even just dateable. In my social circle every guy who is good looking (and some who aren't really) and high status is in a relationship or a total player and there is a surplus of single women orbiting around them. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:35 PM
2

Yes but all relationships with other people count such as friendships. If you don’t get along with others and have never had friends you probably haven’t developed the skills to be in a relationship. Imagine someone raised by wolves or something. But really we’re all learning those skills from the time we’re born although some people have issues that cause them to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 02:27 AM
–

53% of people under the age of 30 have used dating apps. And 37% of the 30-49 age range which sounds pretty huge considering that a large chunk of that demographic has probably been married or in LTRs since before dating apps even existed. 20% of people under the age of 30 who are in a relationship met their partner on a dating app. And among people who have used dating apps, 79% of people under 30 and 44% of people under 50 have used Tinder. It's by far the most popular app. https://www.pewrese…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:18 PM
–

And yet you guys keep talking about how you'd take anyone, your standards are low, etc. I'm not an incel, I have standards. Yet you want/focus on the best women? Sounds like you guys are Stacy chasers after all. Yes of course, guys with standards and options are. What's wrong with that. Like women say "of course we want hot guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:04 PM
–

Women who claim that men self-select for bad women are just doing a gender-flipped version of incel talk. They hate that men are attracted to hot, fun, socially popular women so they demonize them as being some kind of bad people with bpd and try to claim that the only "good girls" are homely homebodies who've never been invited to the party. It's pretty obvious they're just jealous of women who are attractive and socially normal, just like incels seethe about chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:03 PM
–

Of course I acknowledge that not every woman likes to go out and have fun. That’s the whole point. The women who don’t are probably unattractive, weird, live in a small town, or are religious fundamentalists who got married at a young age. Now you’re saying “house parties” are acceptable lol. So these “normal” women who don’t drink, have never tried any drugs, don’t go to bars, have never been out dancing or gone to a concert, and aren’t on dating apps are going to lots of house parties? And tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:50 AM
–

Going dancing is NORMAL and has been throughout human history across almost every culture. Simple midwestern people of my grandparents generation probably met square dancing. Women who enjoy going out aren’t crazy or terrible people. If you don’t enjoy socializing, dancing, and listening to music you probably have social anxiety or some other kind of neurodivergent condition. Don’t try to paint conservative high inhibition shut ins as normal and demonize normal fun people as crazy trashy monster…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:24 AM
–

Who said anything about minors? Anyway it’s deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:16 AM
–

I don’t know anything about Tate or f&f. But what kind of grown ass adult has never been to a nightclub!? You’ve never been dancing? Gone to see a concert? I’ll tell you what kind of women hang out in clubs. Normal attractive single American women who went to college and live in a city.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:52 AM
–

Not sure why it wouldn’t be but I deleted it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:49 AM
–

The women that trp describes are attractive single American women who are socially normal and most likely college educated and live in a big city. That’s it. The idea that men select for some specific group of terrible crazy women is a nonsense cope. Attractive should be assumed. Women here will say “well of course we want hot guys” and the same thing goes both ways. It should be a given that we’re not talking about ugly women. Attractive women have a lot more social opportunities than other peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:34 AM
2

You’re conflating “druggies” with “low income” which is inaccurate and frankly pretty prejudiced. Plenty of rich people do coke and pills and k and everything else probably even moreso than poorer people. Abusers can come from any walk of life. And I’ve dated nice college educated middle to upper middle class women who had experience with felons, drug dealers, heroin addicts, etc in their youth. Because women of all backgrounds like guys who are exciting, fun, and maybe a little dangerous or giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:34 AM
1

I’ve encountered 3. One was somebody I met online and we had one date and then I found out through social media that she was violent and crazy. I didn’t seek her out, I didn’t know anything about her. Another was a casual fwb who seemed normal and I never would have suspected but she told me she was actually diagnosed so idk. I didn’t stick around to find out. And the other was someone I dated for a while and it started out great then got bad. There was really no “type”, no common denominator be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:18 AM
2

Rich people like to party and use drugs too. You’re the one categorizing these women as terrible. Actual trp is about understanding women’s motivations and not being angry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:52 AM
3

No it’s more like cluster b women get around a lot, are single a lot, and have a certain type of guy they target. One link I saw said it can be as high as 6% so a man would only have to date 16 women to run into one. But that’s ignoring the fact that they’re likely over represented in the single scene because they can’t keep a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:47 AM
3

I thought the blockbuster one would give it away for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:23 PM
2

That plus credit cards didn’t exist until 1958 ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:20 PM
2

I'm just curious if the younger women here were aware of the struggles of her ancestors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:55 PM
13

It's crazy how many opportunities were kept from women until fairly recently. Women weren't even able to have credit cards in the US until 1958 and couldn't have a Discover card until 1985! Women weren't able to trade index funds until 1976 and couldn't even have a Blockbuster video membership in the state of CA until 1990. And did you know that the Department of Homeland Security didn't employ a single woman until 2002!? Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:03 PM
33

Because money isn't status (especially low level money like that) and women are attracted to STATUS. I've dated never-married women in their late '30s and early 40s who were still hot af and could have easily locked down some rich FAANG guy if marriage and money were all they were after. But they don't care about that, they want a hot guy with some kind of impressive status that they can show off to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:43 AM
1

Here's his ex gf Sherilyn Fenn. Who aged worse? https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D5603AQEXmIyyy_4mXg/profile-displayphoto-shrink_800_800/0/1693604986835?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=9Tev0WmFA6I5rQHkSlmyjpauQJ1CQbiECyCTXHHCUSw
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:50 PM
2

I think it's supposed to mean guys with scrawny arms and legs who have a beer belly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:07 AM
2

Just FYI there is no common law marriage in NY.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:45 PM
–

I think that’s a dumb argument because it could easily be defined as a special skilled job. You don’t tell somebody on welfare “go become an actor”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:29 AM
3

Af/bb, hypergamy, branch swinging, orbiters, assume attraction, develop an abundance mentality by actually having lots of options, dare not deer, hold frame, shit tests, she breaks rules for chad, and plenty of other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:52 PM
2

I agree but I don't think it ever will be and I don't think it would have any effect on the smp. I think the current status quo is that it's basically not enforced and it will likely stay that way. There's no big population of women dying to be prostitutes who are kept out of the business simply because it's illegal. So there would be no real increase in supply. But there probably are men who haven't tried it who would if it were legalized so there would be an increase in demand. That plus added…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:49 PM
2

I don't have time to dive into the study but I wonder about the difference between an income gap vs the actual amount of income. Like are we talking average guys whose wife is a sahm so there's a big income gap but he's not exactly rich and successful. Or are we talking guys who make a ton of money and if she divorced she would never be able to snag someone that successful again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:33 PM
-2

Don’t tell them. Nobody is entitled to you marrying them. It’s not like having kids where if you lie about it you’re wasting their time. Marriage isn’t necessary and if you’re dating women in their 30s they’ve for sure already spent years wasting time with guys who didn’t have to commit to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:09 PM
–

Yes all of these guys who are so terrified that there are going to be some kind of awful consequences for approaching women are pathetic too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:04 PM
1

You can't be an architect or a teacher without a college degree. Maybe you don't understand your friends finances as well as you think you do because some of those jobs you describe probably make as much or more as the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:38 PM
–

Keep on walking. I wouldn't cry about it on reddit. I've been physically assaulted on the street before. You just get out of the situation as quickly as you can and keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:37 PM
4

The fact is that they're just lying or overestimating how common it is. Even in left-leaning tech circles most of those women are going to be married to other men in tech who still make as much or more than them. These highly paid techy women aren't marrying construction workers, they're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:35 PM
2

How does that stand to reason? Most high earning women are married to men who make the same or more. It's not like there's some particular job that makes a lot of money and mainly hires women who go for lower earning men. Like I said before the study shows that it's mostly educated women with non-college educated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:32 PM
8

Right but that study shows that the wife being the primary or sole breadwinner is more common among college educated women married to non college educated men. So it’s more of a working class thing. The median income of women who are the primary breadwinner is around 80k so it’s not tech workers it’s probably couples where the wife is a nurse or teacher and the husband has a blue collar job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:13 AM
3

Interesting since that study shows that it’s more often college educated women married to guys with only a HS diploma. But I guess I can see how if two people basically have a very similar white collar job but she works at a place like Amazon she might make significantly more. What kind of jobs do the husbands have?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:10 AM
–

And the flip side how is someone so fragile going to handle an interaction with an actual crazy person roaming the streets? How will she ever navigate living in a real city in the real world if she’s terrified of a guy trying to chat her up at the manga section of Barnes and noble in some suburban mall?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:05 AM
1

Where do you live, and what kind of socioeconomic circle is it where there are "a lot" of couples like that because in the US it's pretty rare. Only 15% of couples under the age of 45. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 12:30 AM
2

I have little to no experience with that, which isn't surprising since that's only 11% of married couples under 35 and only 15% of couples under 45, and those are mostly men with no college education married to college educated women. So mostly from lower class backgrounds that I don't have much experience with. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ Struggling to think of some couples I know where the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 12:28 AM
1

Mine were married for over 70 but it was another era. Divorce was rarer and they definitely hadn’t been with anybody else first.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:38 PM
1

But people do take things for granted that’s the point. Lots of guys think once they get married that their perfect innocent wife will stand by his side unconditionally till death do us part even if he gets fat and does nothing but watch tv all day. And then he’s surprised when she leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:37 PM
1

Sex is the whole point of a relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:33 PM
2

There were guys before you and if ends there will be other guys after you. It's about giving up the fairy tale view of love and coming to terms with the fact that nothing is forever and nothing is guaranteed. It's the reality of serial monogamy which is now the new norm. It's also about not being lazy and taking the relationship for granted because if she's tired of you and a better option comes along she may take it. It's about not freaking out if you find out about some guy she used to hook up…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:14 PM
6

With this new mandatory flair bullshit what's next, TPS reports?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:20 PM
5

Yeah an intelligent sociopath who is a master manipulator is probably some kind of very successful career guy in a stable relationship who is not violent. Like a Steve Jobs type.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:33 PM
1

I think rough location should be mandatory. I also think there should be some kind of score for experience. So 0 if you're a virgin, 1 if you've never been in a relationship, 2 if you have, 3 if you've lived with someone, 4 if you've been married, 5 if you've had kids, 6 if you've been divorced, something like that. Like if you've never been in a serious relationship I'm not trying to hear your opinions on divorce laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:28 PM
1

Never heard of him but he sounds like a total piece of shit. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Edward_Dutton
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:13 PM
–

Often that's because the parents had tons of work done and the kids haven't yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:57 PM
3

Women couldn't open banking accounts until 1974 with the Equal Credit Opportunity act. That's a myth. That was the first time a federal anti-discrimination law ensured that all women could open bank accounts in every state, but that doesn't mean that no women could open bank accounts. Some states allowed it and CA was the first in 1862. As far as I understand lots of banks would allow women to open an account but they had to have their father or husband cosign for them. There were even women ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:49 PM
–

Come on dude literally no one thinks software engineer is high status or chadly. Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:49 AM
2

No not really. A bad boy doesn’t have to be a violent criminal. He’s just somebody who dgaf and doesn’t play by the rules. Could be an outsider rebel type or a rich kid party boy or a sociopath ceo or coke head finance bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:26 AM
6

Being unable to hold a job doesn’t matter if bad boys are just for casual or for having fun with in her teens and 20s. And not all bad boys are broke. There are highly successful men who dgaf and don’t play by any rules. They don’t have to be violent either. There are plenty of guys who just like to party and are low inhibition and a lot of fun who are also chill af and not violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:53 AM
2

Kind of but with less judgmental language.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:42 PM
2

Yes that’s basically the definition. It’s fine to not identify as bluepill but that’s what it means. It’s not an ideology it’s just the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:39 PM
1

Do people who claim no pill not realize that that IS blue pill? By definition blue pill is just the default mainstream no pill state. I would argue black pill is also just angry blue pill guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:34 PM
1

I'm in college I go, I don't know anyone there and it's just class, there's no chance for you to actually get to know anyone there. Are you in the US? Did you live in dorms? You've never talked to people in class? Gone to a party? alcohol is haram. LOL well there's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:28 PM
2

So you don't agree with the first amendment, good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 07:15 PM
1

You say “I didn’t wear the right clothes” in a dismissive way but it’s important. There’s a reason why “peacocking” was a central element of early PUA tactics because wearing a weird fuzzy hat gives women a conversation opener. I met my first girlfriend because I moved to a new school and was wearing the right band t shirt and she approached me. The way you dress says a lot about who you are and what your personality and interests are and gives people an excuse to want to talk to you because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:59 AM
5

I don’t know but I can tell you my own experience. I had a few girlfriends in my teenage years. A couple I was really in lust with and was heartbroken when I got dumped a couple of times but it’s not like I was truly in love or thought we would be together forever. Had a dry spell in my early 20s and met someone in my mid 20s who I ended up settling down with and having kids and getting married. But I wasn’t really in love and never thought I would experience it and had a lot of similar regrets …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:40 AM
–

People work around dangerous chemicals and risk getting cancer, work physically demanding jobs that damage their bodies over time, or work around people with dangerous infectious diseases. I don't think you can make a logical argument that those things are fundamentally different than prostitution. There may be some other logical argument against prostitution, but the "selling your body" one doesn't make any sense because even a physically undemanding office job that only requires brainpower is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:11 PM
0

Men sell their bodies too. It’s called labor. It’s pretty strange that you can pay someone to have sex in the US if you film it but not otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:11 AM
1

Girlfriend yes. Wife never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:16 AM
1

Yeah I don't see how it could have helped. As far as I understand prenups can just protect assets from before marriage, not anything accumulated during marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:58 PM
1

Most yes, but a third of married mothers in the US don't work at all. Many more make significantly less than their husbands as shown by the study I linked to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:56 PM
13

If women are universally, by definition of being a woman, hypergamous, monkey branching gold diggers, then the only sensible option is to cut them off entirely from your life. No trp says to spin plates, never cohabitate or marry, and enjoy the decline. Cutting them out of your life entirely is some anger phase mgotw shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:47 PM
1

I married a woman with a good career who made about the same amount of money as I did. And like many women she chose to let her career fizzle out when she had kids. Most men aren't able to find a partner who makes as much or more than them. I just made a post about it earlier. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17mlcwl/daily_community_chat_megathread/k7ouuip/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:43 PM
1

The men who have an issue with it are the ones with something to lose, not young kids with tons of debt. I'm not wealthy at all but between her half of the home equity and her half of my retirement savings my ex walked away with about half a million dollars for being a sahm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:25 PM
4

LOL now it makes sense why you were arguing that marriage is nbd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:06 PM
2

Good question, I was going to mention that but the post got long. You might say that 20% isn't much but it adds up. If a woman makes 100k and her husband makes 120k, they spend 200k a year and put his extra 20% into savings. After 10 years he's earned an extra 200k and if they divorce he has to give her an equivalent of a year of her salary. You might say that most people don't even have savings and are in debt, but that extra 20% might increase their assets in other ways. Maybe it allows them t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:22 PM
2

The wage gap means that most men in the US will not be able to find a partner who makes as much or more than him. When men express concern about the financial risks of divorce people always say "just find a woman who makes as much or more than you" but for most men this is simply not possible. Even if you deny the fact that women prefer to date and marry up you can't ignore the fact that american men make on average 20% more than women so it stands to reason that as people partner up, the man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:11 PM
1

Why should anyone take such a one sided risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:44 PM
1

Marrying a woman who makes a lot less money than you is not brave, it's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:43 PM
1

No the pressure is on the men to propose. It's not a personal decision when your parents have an opinion and her parents and friends put the pressure on. "Why hasn't he stepped up and proposed yet?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:41 PM
1

LOL if I say "I love you and want to marry you but here are my financial concerns" I just killed the whole romance of the thing. And there's still no solution for those financial concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:40 PM
2

People here are way too dismissive about what a serious decision it is for men to get married. Whenever there's a thread about "why get married instead of just being bf/gf" there are always so many glib responses that say things like "get married or don't get married nobody cares". They completely ignore the fact that there's a massive amount of societal pressure to get married from family, from women, from your girlfriends friends, even from media "if you liked then you should have put a ring o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:20 PM
1

Every fuckboy player abuser me-too-allegation creep I know has a bunch of women friends making excuses for him who would happily endorse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:15 PM
5

You don’t agree that a real estate contract where each side’s obligations are spelled out clearly would be safer than a marriage where one side can break the contract at any time for any reason and still walk away with 50%? I have no idea what you think this has to do with commitment. I think you just can’t admit that your original post was factually wrong so now you’re just posting non-sequiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:55 PM
6

You’re not making any sense. Now you’re backpedaling on the “banks will laugh at you” and changing it to “who wants to do that”. Again I don’t get your point. I would much rather create a real estate partnership with a trusted friend where it outlines how much each person puts in and how much equity they earn than buy a house with a spouse where they get 50% on divorce even if they contributed nothing to the mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:43 PM
6

I guess I'm not understanding your point. You made it sound like you have to be married to get a mortgage because if you tried to get one with a friend the bank would "laugh its ass off at you." I was just pointing out that that's false and banks have no problem lending to people who aren't married. They just add together the debts and incomes and calculate your combined debt to income ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:25 PM
8

Try signing a 30 year contract loan with a “friend” and see the bank laugh its ass off at you That’s what a mortgage is. Huh? I did just that and know other people who have too. It's not rare at all and banks have zero problems with it. It's funny that you're so confidently wrong about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:41 PM
–

Super large like… Seattle and Austin?! Lol what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:26 AM
1

That's why I specified that having lots of casual acquaintances can actually be more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:14 PM
1

Close male friendships are nice but are absolutely not a prerequisite for romantic success. Obviously a guy with a big, highly social friend group will do better than a guy without, and a weird guy with zero friends and social problems is going to struggle. But apart from that there's no correlation. Unfuckable nerds can have a close group of other friends like them but that won't help them date. Especially for casual dating it really doesn't matter. In long term relationships some women might f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:47 PM
1

I know all kinds of private stuff about guys in my social circle through my girlfriends friends gossiping about it. When I talk to men we aren't talking about that shit. That's what those "are we dating the same guy" groups and the me too movement were all about. There's no equivalent world of men warning each other about bpd women or who has stds or is a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:30 PM
1

Again, all she knows is that guy wants to fuck her, that's it. She doesn't know if he loves her, or wants a relationship, or any of that dumb shit, because he might not be, guys will go to insane lengths just to fuck. So she dates him and finds out. The more opportunities to date means more opportunities to find out which people make good partners. And just because a chick is hot doesn't mean even an ugly guy wants a relationship with her. Lol yeah right. Again it's about his relationship histor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:28 PM
1

That ties into my point that women talk and share information more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:24 PM
1

I didn't say that men had zero options or experience but that in general they have less than women. Online dating shows this to an extreme degree but it's true in real life too. It's just a simple fact that most women don't aggressively pursue men in the same way that men pursue women therefore it's easier for women to passively learn what their options are while men have to actively approach and pursue to figure out that same information.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:22 PM
–

Also, technically, true average on a 10 point scale is 5.5. Not if it starts at zero. It's more like 50% out of a 0 - 100 scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:14 PM
1

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 11:00 PM
1

It's not useful to know which potential suitors are attracted to you vs men having go in blind and approach women and shoot their shot? If you're lonely and horny it's not useful to know which attractive guys you can call up at a moment's notice?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:58 PM
1

Orbiters exist. Women can tell that the guy who is "just a friend" who she considers "like a brother" is actually in love with her, they just like to play dumb because it benefits them. If a guy in your social circle shows interest in you and he's a guy who has been in relationships, and you know you're more attractive than his exes, then you can be damn sure he would happily be in a relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:57 PM
2

I think the biggest advantage women have in dating which goes unmentioned is that they have a lot more information. If you think about it, when you're dating you're trying to figure out, what are my options, how attractive am I, what kind of people are attracted to me, how picky can I be, do I need to compromise, and things like that. Since men are the pursuers women immediately start to gather information about what their options are. If a man approaches you he finds you attractive on some leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:00 PM
-1

Most of the time these women are still dating up though. Often it's the mega famous actor dating the lesser known up-and-coming actress who then becomes more famous because of their relationship. So after the fact it seems like they were on the same level even if they weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:43 PM
–

I thought looks discussions weren't allowed anymore but I guess if you're parroting some women are wonderful bs it's all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:40 PM
1

So can't discuss rule #1 anymore but we can still discuss rule #2?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:42 PM
–

It's not like he was unattractive because he was too feminine and pretty. It's the same face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:57 PM
–

It's not phony niceness, women really believe it. Look at how many women here say all of their friends are attractive, women are typically more attractive than men, or calling this woman pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:57 PM
–

She's objectively not. This is proving my point more successfully than I expected!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:55 PM
–

She's not attractive to me. Both are 4s. Women predictably overrate her because of her styling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:54 PM
–

I mean objectively it's the same person! It's not like he was unattractive because he was too feminine or anything. She's still unattractive, she just has long hair and is wearing makeup lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:53 PM
–

LOL women do it all the time! "OMG you're so pretty!" "you look gorgeous" "your hair looks amazing" "she can do better than him she's beautiful". They do it publicly when commenting on each others social media posts! We can all see it, don't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:25 PM
–

And him?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:23 PM
1

It's only logical genetically that there would be a roughly equal number of attractive men and women. Do all attractive women have ugly brothers and fathers? Not really. Attractive people usually have attractive kids barring certain unusual circumstances. If anything its more common that an attractive masculine guy has a daughter who unfortunately looks like him and turns out kind of masculine and unattractive. A pretty boy is still attractive. Just going to leave this here https://www.reddit.co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:22 PM
–

I feel like most women if they were friends with her would say this woman is pretty. Or at least not acknowledge that she's below average. Seems like a pretty good illustration of why women overrate themselves and other women compared to men. https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/1798f9l/after_almost_30_years_of_fear_a_reason_to_smile/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:18 PM
3

I don't understand how the median number of partners is relevant. I saw someone claim that the median for women is 4. But if you had a group of women with these numbers 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 Wouldn't the median be 4? And isn't it logical to assume that the low ones partnered off early or are unattractive, so the higher numbers are what's actually common among attractive women who are single and actively dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:39 PM
1

You're thinking about improvement the wrong way. If you improve yourself to look better, you'll feel better and your life will improve in every way. Whether that's losing weight, getting in shape, getting a better style, improving your posture, or becoming more confident, social, and charismatic. 25 is still very young and is no reason to give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:42 PM
1

I'm not comparing the struggles of lgbtq youth to guys who can't get laid. But I am saying that in both cases it's sad that young people would become so hopeless that they would think about ending things when there's so much future ahead of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:38 PM
1

Part of the point of teaching young men that dating can get easier as they get older is like the "It Gets Better" campaign for lgbtq kids. It's crazy for guys who are struggling in their late teens or early 20s to be suicidal over being virgins. This is an example of men actually trying to help other men and give them advice and it's really cruel for women to call it a "cope" or an old man's fantasy and to try to keep these young guys trapped in a spiral of hopelessness. Labeling, othering, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:54 PM
–

You don't sound very confident in your intelligence if you need an outside source to validate it for you with arbitrary grades. Grades are for children. Even if you are trying to go to grad school you shouldn't really worry about grades after you finish your undergrad around 22. You know, kid stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 05:01 AM
–

Grades? LOL those are boys not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:19 AM
1

The reality is if you haven had luck gettin a relationship going This is your weekly friendly reminder that THAT IS NOT AT ALL WHO TRP WAS FOR. It's not for you, you don't even understand what it is, so why don't you just ignore it and move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:35 AM
2

It's funny how confident you are about SlowEffective's meaning of "repercussions". You seem to think it's about "safety" by which I'm assuming you mean STDs, pregnancy, rape, and murder. Like I said, I don't know what they meant by "repercussions" but through context I'm assuming that they were thinking of more redpill concerns like inability to pair bond, unrealistic expectations, being alpha widowed, and overall lowering of value as a serious candidate for marriage. Either way it's irrelevant …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:13 AM
17

Here you go Icy_Ordinary2025 · 1 min. ago Yes, we can fuck a bunch of guys for fun and it has no repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:08 AM
8

I have no idea what the other poster meant by repercussions but it seems irrelevant to the discussion which is about having sex with someone just because they're hot without concern for any other type of relationship compatibility. The safety part also seems irrelevant since most sane women aren't trying to get murdered. The safety part should be taken for granted. It's like if a guy said "no I wouldn't just sleep with any attractive woman I would only sleep with any attractive woman with a clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:07 AM
13

The OP says it's weird for a man to fuck a woman just because she's hot if there's no other compatibility. The woman I just quoted describes doing exactly that, fucking a guy simply because she was horny and "the only thing that mattered" was that he was "a hot guy". SlowEffective8146 jokingly summarized that attitude that we see from women here all of the damn time as "I can fuck a bunch of guys for fun". I'm not going to jump straight to insults like you did but it's weird that you can't follo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:55 PM
9

From just two hours ago It’s not some sort of crazy desire, it’s just that the woman decided she wanted sex that day and went out to get it. In that moment, the only thing that mattered was safety and attractiveness which is a hot guy. That guy may not be someone I’d ever like to spend time with but his only purpose in her life was to provide sex. Women can always find a man to hookup with so it makes sense that after breaking up and no longer having the expectation of monogamy she would go out …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:43 PM
13

"But if I'm horny and he's not relationship material then OF COURSE all that matters is that he's hot. Duh."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:35 PM
1

Ok....so the most attractive women are not available on the dating market because they are dating celebrities....So doesnt that make the most attractive men the celebrities you're talking about and they are also not a part if the dating market. No. Highly attractive men aren't plucked out of their small town by rich celebrity women in the way that attractive women are. Men have to actually accomplish something to be welcomed into the world of the rich, famous, and powerful while young women gain…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:16 PM
1

I don't even think I'm one of the most beautiful women in the world, Then I wasn't talking about you. and there are plenty of celebs who aren't actually all that good looking. I was talking about beautiful women, not celebrities. The celebrities in this example are the men they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:13 PM
–

Yes it's the norm although women here will try to convince you otherwise. IMO the most beautiful women are not a part of the normal dating market because their appeal is global and they're able to date celebrities, millionaires, and travel around the world. The most attractive men can sleep around with multiple women without commitment. Those two facts skew the entire rest of the dating pool so that average and above average guys struggle and are forced to date down. This struggle also leads guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:18 PM
1

And 21 isn't older lmao,the age difference is nothing. 21 isn't older than 18? OK. A high school freshman and a high school senior are worlds apart in looks, maturity, and experience. Same with a college freshman and college senior. And once again when a guy graduates and enters the workforce and starts at the bottom. An 18 year old college guy in some places literally can't date down in age legally. So even if a small percentage of the 18 year old women are dating guys who are a year or three o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:23 PM
1

I mean obviously you have to make some friends, be social and put yourself out there, but I think the age factor is real and it's a chain reaction. If just a handful of the most attractive girls are dating 21 year olds and the next tier down are dating 20 year olds, etc. then even the not so hot 18 year olds have their pick of the top 18 year old guys, and the average guys are the ones who suffer because it's harder for you to date girls that are younger than you since they're not even in your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:09 PM
1

Yeah in situationships or fucking around with older guys. In what world is an 18 year old guy with no friends who just moved to town going to be more successful than the 21 year old senior who has a big social circle and a cool apartment and knows everything there is to do around town?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:06 PM
1

Dude you're 18? All of the hot 18 year old girls at a college are probably going to be with older guys. That's the worst phase in a lot of guys lives because of the age situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 07:14 PM
1

I've always just been friends with those kind of people since a friend gave me acid in high school. But basically just befriend some hippies. You used to be able to go to the dead show parking lot but I guess dead & co just played their last tour, so try any other jam band scene. Maybe go to burning man. Or meet edm/raver people. Mushrooms are already decriminalized in some places and I think full legalization and recreational sale is going to be coming very quickly. Apparently you can buy them …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:43 AM
1

Yep, acid, shrooms, and dmt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:39 PM
1

It's amazing that people can get access to common, popular recreational drugs!? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:38 PM
1

Well the women who get all of their opinions on gender dynamics and feminism from tiktok or tumblr are precisely the ones who post on places like reddit. I don't really talk about this stuff in the real world. Although when some of these topics do bleed into real life it's usually via social media. I heard some women discussing the Jonah Hill thing which is a completely social media manufactured story. A bitter ex of a celebrity posts private text messages a year after they broke up in order to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:29 PM
1

Once a month for a few months when she happens to think of you isn't reliable or the kind of situation you really want if you want regular quality sex. Well like I said if you had a few of those situations going with minimal work involved it could be pretty fun. In my 20s I was sleeping with a woman who would come by once or twice a week and it went on that way for about a year until she finally broke up with her boyfriend and we started dating for real. Basically, the assumption that most men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:51 PM
–

It was probably most common in prehistoric times but less common in 1950s than in 2023. I don't know, I've been meaning to make a post about this, but I listen to a lot of old music and it's insane just how many songs are about cheating women, broken hearted guys "you said you would be true, but you lied", or if the girl is good it's always listed as a reason why he loves her is because she is "so true" and would "never lie". And this is before the pill was widely available! I know that's just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:09 PM
–

It's incredibly hard for most men timewise and energy wise to have multiple situationships. It isn't glamorous, or easy, or anything at all like social media cliches. There's a lot of relationship-like things that come up in situationships. Not really. I've never "spun plates" or slept with multiple women at the same time. But I have had women who would text me like once a month to come over and we would have a couple of drinks and have sex and that was the whole dynamic. We never hung out outsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:06 PM
–

In my country, that kind of sports culture is nonexistent in colleges. The observations that TRP is based on were made by american men talking about the dating culture in the US. Sorry, but if you live in an entirely different culture, I don't think you can understand ours just by looking at statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:50 PM
–

I didn’t realize so many guys think that women’s views come from “feminism” or “social media” and not what she witnessed or experienced growing up or in her day to day? I don't know a couple of days ago I was arguing with a 30 something woman on here who said that 30 years ago women didn't live alone and were reliant on men. It seems like a lot of young women truly believe that women were completely helpless and subjugated by men until very recently. As if Gen Z are the first feminists. I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:31 PM
5

I'm not sure who annoys me more, people who would travel to Dubai, or people who believe there's a place called "Disney".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:58 AM
1

Who cares, it's a temporary appointment and there's already going to be a primary for her replacement in 6 months. Kamala Harris was only the second african american woman in the sentate in history and when she became VP, Newsom appointed a latino guy to replace her and people were mad. This is just an attempt to fix that gaffe, not some kind of big trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:37 PM
1

Yes if you actually do something with your life and accomplish something. Not by just existing. Attractive women get access to social circles just by virtue of being attractive but men actually have to prove their worth. If your life isn't in a better place with a wider, better social circle at 35 then at 20, then either you already started at the top, or you never bothered to improve yourself or achieve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:38 PM
–

Sure you match with a girl on OLD who's not that cute but maybe looks cute enough. You start chatting right away, get invited over to her place, meet her and realize she's not as cute as her photos but you're there and don't want to hurt her feelings, get drunk, fuck, never see each other again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:35 PM
4

LOL a child is literally a dependent. It's harder than living alone! I don't know many women who live alone now, they usually have roommates. But if anything it was probably more common 30 years ago since rent was so much cheaper. Two women who both work and share an apartment together as roommates are still supporting themselves independently from men. No. Because it wasn't the 80s. Lol. Right, it was the '60s. The 1860s. "Alllll the way back in 1862, California became the first state to pass a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:53 PM
6

Up until the 1970s/1980s they did. It's a relatively new thing for women to have the ability to provide for themselves. 30 years ago, women weren't living alone like they do today. Insane. You don't actually believe this nonsense do you? You think that women couldn't live alone and support themselves in... 1993!? LOL. One of my aunts was a single mom supporting herself and her kid and a small business owner in the '70s. My mom worked to pay her way through college in the '60s and lived with a ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:09 PM
–

Agreed, I posted something similar the other day and I view status that boosts your smv like this: 1- Achieving something great and difficult that stands out over other men in the same field. So no "son of the guy" like somebody else mentioned. He didn't accomplish anything. 2- In a field that's interesting/exciting/fun/sexy to women like the arts, sports, travel, anything cultural. So not the guy who is a "high status" FAANG engineer. 3 - In a way that leads to an interesting, fun lifestyle tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:23 PM
1

Just look at this sub and how many women say they're proudly childfree. Women are waiting longer than ever to have kids so there's no shortage of single women in their late 30s and early 40s who have never had kids. If they still think they might want kids, then a single dad is actually an attractive partner to them. For casual dating it really doesn't matter at all since you don't have your kids fulltime.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:30 AM
1

Where's the judgmental view? I have nothing against single moms, but I think everyone would admit that it's easier to date someone without kids. If I can date women without kids as a divorced guy with kids in his 40s, then when I see a guy in his 20s or 30s dating a woman with kids it's hard not to judge the guy a little and think he must not have any better options. On the flip side, women without kids might actually like to date guys with kids because it proves they can be good fathers and mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:26 AM
–

That's what I thought would happen to me after divorce but it hasn't been the case. Luckily I have plenty of other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:26 PM
1

Your post is an odd mix of biological explanations and sociological explanations. If you look at it purely biologically wouldn't it make sense that ingrained behaviors developed over thousands of years of evolution would stick around even after sociological changes make those behavior seemingly obsolete? Looking at it from a sociological point of view, even after industrialization, a woman marrying up into a higher social class was still the best way for her to guarantee the best possible future…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:05 PM
–

Fathers and sons and other men in the community used to work on the farm together or hunt and gather together. Then in modern times the men were all off at a couple of world wars and if and when they got back with severe ptsd they were at the office all day until late or traveling for work while the moms stayed at home and raised the kids. Then those boys who grew up with absent, abusive, emotionally distant fathers and entirely raised by women at home and in school grew up to also be dysfunctio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:50 AM
10

Huh? Getting fat is the disordered relationship to food.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:10 AM
2

Well if he was already attracted to her then the number one way for her to kill that is by gaining a bunch of weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:05 AM
1

And then these guys will complain about makeup. Beards are makeup for weak chinned men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:19 AM
56

So the hotter a man is, the harder women will work to stay attractive for him, but if she feels like she's settling for a guy who is beneath her she'll get lazy and let herself go. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:17 AM
1

That's cool. You keep specifying "relationship seeking" and "over 35". I'm just pointing out that from what I've seen I know guys who have been in their 30s and living in a van who have dated very attractive women. Not everyone is looking to settle down and have kids right away. It's totally understandable that lots of women or even most women wouldn't be into those guys but from the other side of it, they have no trouble dating because there are women who are into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:11 AM
1

A broke musician at 35 makes most women looking to have a relationship That's RMV not SMV. Some women admire and respect musicians and a creatively (if not financially) successful musician who is 35 can absolutely sleep with younger women who are just looking for fun even if he's broke. They can also easily get into relationships with them as well, as long as the women aren't the type who are desperate to have a kid tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:48 PM
1

I never claimed they were. I personally subscribe to looks, status, game. I was just describing the status portion. Having a boring high paying career doesn't increase smv it increases rmv.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:29 PM
1

So by femme you meant “low status”? I was speculating that modeling is low status because women are attracted to men who DO things, make things, build things, accomplish things, and modeling does none of those. I was also pointing out that it's traditionally coded as a feminine profession (hence why you have to specify "male model") and therefore might be a subconscious turnoff for women in the same way that it might be for a man to be an elementary school teacher or some other job that was trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:02 PM
1

Yes, that can be true but it's limited to the people in that space. I'm talking about a more general increase in smv that follows you everywhere you go. If you're a professional painter you might have art scene groupies who are attracted because of who you are, but you can still meet a random woman who knows nothing about art who thinks it's cool and impressive that you're a painter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:43 PM
1

It's not very subjective it's quite universal, and I haven't been specific at all, I described three very general characteristics that can be measured across all fields. difficult and rare to accomplish. There are lots of lawyers and doctors, there are much fewer professional racecar drivers. fun, interesting, exciting, sexy. This is universal. Doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, if you're at a party would you rather talk to the insurance adjuster or the movie director? the lifestyle asso…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:40 PM
1

I didn't say that the guys are femme, I said that modeling is a female-coded field like nursing or teaching. The proof is in the fact that you said "male models" ;) There's not many fields where you would need to specify male in front of it like that. It's not an accomplishment it's just a guy existing being hot and passively having his picture taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:53 PM
1

People have different interests and there are different niches but I believe it operates essentially the same way across the board in the way that I outlined. Some types of status are more impressive because they're rarer and harder to achieve, some are more sexy because they're in an interesting field, and some are more exciting because of the lifestyle that comes with it. The combination of those 3 factors is the type of "status" that increases a man's smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:43 PM
1

There was a thread just yesterday debating whether or not doctors are "high status". A lot of guys here seem to conflate status with income or academic and career achievement. My point is that those aren't forms of status that increase a man's smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:41 PM
1

It's not a duh when people here claim that doctors or tech workers are high status just because they make a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:40 PM
1

I think that status is the #1 thing that posters here consistently misunderstand and misrepresent. Obviously the word status can mean a lot of different things in different contexts but when it comes to making a man more attractive to women and increasing his smv, I think there are a few specific things that come into play. A high level of achievement and difficult accomplishments that make him stand out among other men in the same field. So a lot of guys will think merely becoming a doctor, law…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:48 PM
1

But I feel perfectly dateable men who had no problems a few years ago are now approaching a point where they’re really struggling. Do you think this is happening? Why? Yes I think it's happening and the answer is obvious, and guys here say it all the time. OLD and social media have vastly increased the dating pool for women, so competition is higher than ever. Women have experience having casual sex with guys way out of their league and this inflates their perception of their own level of attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:13 PM
1

Male models aren't high status because they haven't accomplished anything other than looking hot. It's the laziest, lowest ambition career for a hot guy to pursue, and is often the brunt of jokes. It's not a career that anyone respects or takes seriously. I don't know anything about the dating life of male models but if it's true that women don't stick around for long I would assume that's the reason not lack of money. Because as I said there are plenty of other young broke guys who do well with…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:20 PM
1

LOL true. What a sacrifice to live in his mansion while the hired help takes care of him and she fucks her personal trainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:01 AM
1

And I'm countering saying that the brokeness clearly doesn't matter when lots of attractive women chase broke musicians and artists. You said that women would leave a model after 3 dates for being broke but then admitted that they would stick around for a year for a broke musician, kind of proving my point. In the context of male models it's assumed that we're talking about very young men who aren't looking to be longterm relationship material. But I'm old and know plenty of older musicians who …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:59 AM
4

The post I was replying to mentioned musicians, celebrities, and athletes. I was saying that male models aren't high status and attractive for their accomplishments in the same way as those other guys because they're just hot. They didn't really do anything. You said it's because they're broke but I pointed out that it's not really a factor. A string of young women who stick around for 6 months to a year is a feature not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:23 AM
1

No she just has no hips so she'll never have that hip to waist ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:17 AM
5

Nah women will date broke musicians because it's attractive that they actually are DOING something and have accomplished something impressive that not many people have. Modeling is not really respected in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:13 AM
12

Because the latter guys have actually accomplished something while the models are just pretty boys. And modeling is a kind of feminine field and it's probably assumed that many of the guys are gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:17 PM
1

Tech is not high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:16 PM
1

Or you're seriously overrating these women because they fit a niche type that you like. Any pics of examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:44 AM
3

I can assure you looking after the kids is NOT chilling though. For the first 3 or 4 years, then they're at school all day, at playdates, doing after school activities, playing outside, or parked in front of the TV or ipad. I have kids and I've been a work from home dad. I know what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:12 PM
1

It's like all of the people here who have never been married but have opinions on marriage, the people who are virgins who have opinions on dating, the childless people who have opinions on how hard it is to raise children. Basically nothing can be discussed constructively here because everyone comes from such different backgrounds and experiences and people don't do a very good job of clarifying where they're coming from up front. I think just yesterday I read a whole long post about "average m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:03 PM
1

Oh that’s strange. I thought americans had the same primary care provider that they always saw? You can if you have a stable healthcare situation but personally my provider has changed several times over the last few years. Even when I had a doctor I liked who I saw regularly for many years, I would be hard pressed to remember their name.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:55 PM
2

I think it’s sooooo weird for one partner to be spending the majority of their income and struggling whilst the other partner spends a minimum and is chilling This is normal for a lot of men. I make a lot more money than my partner and pay for everything but still am struggling financially. She makes a lot less money but her money is for herself and she doesn't face any of the financial stress that I do. It is what it is. Every single SAHM (1/3 of all married moms in the US) are "spending a mini…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:51 PM
1

Not knowing their doctor and dentist implies that they never go to their appointments Not necessarily. Sure if the mother is a SAHM and the dad works there's no reason why he should have ever gone to the appointments. But I couldn't tell you my own doctor or dentists names either and they have changed a lot. I think friend’s names are less important? That's sad to me. My kids friends are at the house all of the time, my kids are at their houses, I know the parents, I know lots of things about my…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:00 PM
1

For your first point, you took the logical chain I used and completely reversed it. That's not what I said. Men are the pursuers so they usually don't receive active "interest" from women except for women who are beneath their league. So a guy can objectively be a 6 but never have even gotten interest from a 5 because he's never tried to even approach any women. Is this bad? Are you complaining? I can't tell I'm just describing reality. Men say that women date and marry up in terms of income. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:58 PM
–

It's not even a real cmv because the OPs aren't required to actually engage with opposing points of view, concede any points, or even reply at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:54 PM
–

Damn that's fucked. But also pretty fucked to do that in front of those kids. I have trouble with numbers so birthdays sometimes take me a minute and there are some similar numbers which trips me up. And doctors and dentists who gives a shit. But not to know their friends names, their grades, or even the name of their school? Pretty bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:48 AM
–

That just sounds like she picked you up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:40 AM
–

Not only housework but "emotional labor"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:26 AM
1

-The dating market tells you what you are worth. If a 5 has never been interested in you, chances are you're not a 5. It's more nuanced than that. Just because some hot drunk guy was horny and had sex with you doesn't make that your league. As a guy you can't judge based on who is "interested in you" since women who actively pursue you are generally beneath you. Some people are insecure or lack self esteem and stay with mediocre people when they could actually do way better. But if you've dated …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:17 AM
1

The wall is menopause. TRP says that women who want to get married and have kids will spend their 20s sleeping around and dating bad boys who wouldn't make great fathers and partners. But then at some point she'll reach the "epiphany phase" where she realizes she's getting older, her looks aren't always going to last, and she doesn't have an unlimited amount of time to meet the right guy, date for a while, get married, and have kids. That's when "the wall" is looming so she'll probably end up lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:53 PM
1

is said to be based on Sudeikis’ estimated 2023 income of $10.5 million and Wilde’s estimated income of $500,000 That's crazy, I would have thought she was a bigger star than him, but I guess Apple must give him a lot of money and he's the creator/producer as well. Totally insane that somebody who makes 500k a year would need "child support".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:29 PM
1

Being bald Being old Being neurodivergent Being a f-boy Being obese Being conservative or libertarian I would reject a woman for all of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:23 PM
–

just get weirded out and disgusted This is how men feel about anime too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:21 PM
4

For 3 years maybe, but after that it's bullshit. Plenty of men work fulltime and also have partial custody of our kids so we know firsthand what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:27 PM
0

No, way off base. You can be a neurotypical and conventionally attractive man and dating is absolutely not "easier than breathing". This is who RP is for, not unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:40 AM
1

A rational and methodical person would try something out, see that it gets a bad reaction, and learn to not do that again. And by doing so you would "learn all the variables".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:42 PM
1

Social intelligence would mean intuitively understanding those rules within the context of the situation and knowing how your joke/line/banter will land.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:40 AM
1

The difference between sexual harassment, and rizz, and humor is basically nothing Anyone who believes this is not an intelligent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 11:02 PM
1

It's just the angry rantings of arrogant guys who think they're the smartest person in the room just because they were good at math and went into CS. They assume that someone who went into the arts and likes to party and has a fun bad boy image must be an idiot because they only see those guys from afar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:59 PM
1

Yeah it seems like if you're going to lose it all it's already well underway by 30 and if it's just going to slowly thin over the years, there's not much difference between 30 and 40 if you're lucky and take care of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:56 PM
4

More like 45 imo if you're genetically lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:28 PM
2

The TRP line (which seems to ring true to me) is that there are 3 kinds of women distributed evenly. The ones who absolutely aren't interested, the ones who would be open to it with the right guy, and the ones who actively seek it out. It doesn't always have to be "dating" either, it can just be sex. And it's talking about high smv guys, not your average fat middle aged dad. My biggest gap was 18 years in my early 40s and she was totally into me, I didn't "groom" her or "manipulate" her or anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:45 PM
1

It depends on genetics and your life circumstances but it absolutely can get better for men. Early 20s can be tough if you still look like a kid and all of the women your age are dating older men. In my 30s I still had all of my hair, didn't start to age at all, although I started looking a little more masculine, and I didn't get fat. The people who claim otherwise are lazy guys who got fat or got genetically unlucky and women who are trying to push back against "the wall" concept by claiming th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:40 PM
1

Well rounded intelligence should include the social intelligence that would allow you not to be an autistic nerd around women but IQ doesn't measure that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:37 PM
1

And yet the marriage contract combines the assets and incomes of two different people of different income levels together into one legal and financial entity, and either party can dissolve the agreement at any time and walk away with 50% of the combined assets with no other conditions needing to be met. How is that conscionable?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:08 AM
2

Are you a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:04 AM
11

LOL imagine wasting months before finding out someone sucks in bed. All because you're too cheap to buy a couple drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:10 AM
1

What I don't understand is why prenups can apparently be challenged if one party didn't get sufficient legal representation or felt forced into it but the marriage contract isn't treated in the same way. I was young and dumb and pressured into marriage and honestly had no idea what I would eventually be getting into financially. Young men are regularly coerced into this major financial contract without any sort of legal counsel or real understanding of the implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:59 PM
6

if personality was actually the determining factor in dating, everyone would be open to dating anyone so long as that person possessed the other person’s ideal personality. Ridiculous argument. If being attractive was all that mattered then you should be equally happy dating attractive men or attractive women. There wouldn’t be so many people with toxic/abusive ex’s. Abusers are often charming at first and create a trauma bond by love bombing then withdrawing and playing hot and cold. Neither ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:21 PM
-2

This feels a little "narcissists prayer". Guys just describe the way things are and women here say "no that's not true" and then finally "well maybe it's true but life's not fair".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:11 PM
1

Nah it's just masculine thinking, autism being extreme male brain. Now when it comes to those subreddits with big charts of face ratings with decimal points that's autistic af but just acknowledging that dating is a marketplace and people have a value in it is common sense. And regular people absolutely do it when they say things like "she's out of his league".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:01 PM
–

This is why TRP says that AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:49 PM
10

Nowhere in the article you linked does "Vanderbilt Law School" say that 47 states have equitable distribution. Go look again. That's something you extrapolated by misunderstanding the "3 of them require 50/50" part. It is a simple fact that 9 states are community property states and 41 are not, not 47. The mistake is understandable but the fact that you can't concede this small factual error is proof that you have no intention of honest debate. I could try to explain to you in more detail what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 10:07 PM
9

No, you said that 47 states "equitable distribution" applies which is wrong. There are 9 community property states and only 41 without. The fact that you don't understand the distinction isn't my problem. If you can't admit you're wrong about basic indisputable facts, then there is no discussion to be had here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:47 PM
8

You clearly didn't understand what you read. There are 9 community property states. That's just a fact. 3 of them require 50/50 split in all circumstances. Anyway it's a terrible argument. It's like saying "what's the big deal about abortion? only a few states have restrictive abortion laws, it's still legal most places". If there's an injustice there's an injustice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:23 PM
11

"only three community property states require a 50/50 split in assets." There are 9 community property states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_property_in_the_United_States
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:50 PM
7

It does not say that it says "only three community property states require a 50/50 split in assets." There are 9 community property states and 3 of them including CA require that things be split 50/50 no matter what. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_property_in_the_United_States
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:49 PM
15

Hmm this article says that 9 states divide community property 50/50, and that includes California and Texas which alone account for like 20% of the US population. According to the article other "equitable distribution" states can also decide to split 50/50 at the judges discretion. https://helloprenup.com/divorce/community-property-vs-equitable-distribution-states/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:28 PM
9

So what, so does the average man. Does she bring more money to the table? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:26 PM
2

On average, young professional men and women both have positive net worth. However, there is a large gap in net worth between men and women. Men have more than double the net worth of women, averaging $12,188 compared to the female average of $5,541. On average, women have investment account balances totaling $19,541 compared to the male average of $26,717. They have significantly lower balances in their investment and retirement accounts. This is particularly troublesome: over time, the investm…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:15 PM
13

A third of married mothers in the US don't work at all and another third make less money than their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:11 PM
1

just disagree with their world view and you're the bad boy LOL I never thought of that angle
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:50 AM
1

Cool, I think you count as off the market and still very young so not the type of woman most men are running into on the dating scene. Basically points 1 and 5 and probably 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:31 PM
1

So get in shape, dress like some kind of che/fidel style revolutionary hero, join a local communist organization and bang cute activist girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:53 PM
1

Well that's precisely my point. A woman who "dated" a guy for a couple of months and they had sex a handful of times but he never took it seriously and they didn't spend much time together was having casual sex whether she admits it to herself or not. Most relationships start that way. As far as "dateable" I just added that to exclude the examples of women who marry their high school sweetheart or muslim women who only date muslims, things like that. They're literally not dateable not because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:29 PM
–

The old trp and ask trp subreddits were full of angry sexists and right wing blowhards but if you could stomach sifting through it all there was some genuine good advice, insights, and harsh truths. I don't know anything about the weird world of podcasts and youtubers and names people throw around now though. I think it helps to have already had lots of experience with women though to be able to filter out who knows wtf they're talking about and who are larping morons, and to recognize which ele…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:13 PM
1

True! But on a debate sub about sex and dating when a guy says that most women he comes across in the dating scene are open to having casual sex and women say "MOST WOMEN DON'T HAVE CASUAL SEX" it's pretty stupid if she's talking about a 500lb asexual autistic woman who is married, right? We're talking about people who are single, actively dating, reasonably attractive, and socially normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:09 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:49 PM
–

You're not going to get the answer here. And you're not going to get it from women. That's why TRP existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:37 PM
–

It's more than a little misleading. Your post is basically admitting that the only sane course for a man to follow in a relationship is to never show vulnerability or weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:34 PM
1

It's pretty easy to know if you're the one having casual sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:23 PM
1

It's not about being "tainted" but about the fact that a lot of men will lower their standards to have easy casual sex. So lots of women will have had sex with guys who are basically out of her league who would never commit to her and didn't have to do anything special to get into bed with her. But then when she "realizes she doesn't like it" she settles for a guy in her league and he has tick off all of these other boxes and provide all sorts of other benefits that the casual guy didn't. But if…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:23 PM
1

Men can comprehend it just fine, it just doesn't matter to us. Why would a guy worry about some bad sex his girlfriend had in the past? The concern that RP guys talk about is that she had wild sex with a hot guy who wouldn't commit and is now settling for someone she's not as attracted to. It doesn't matter if she regretted it and felt hurt that the guy ghosted her, he still set a standard that the new guy can never live up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:17 PM
68

Whine about it online apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:13 PM
1

Usually when you boil these disagreements down it turns into disagreements around how you define "casual sex". Exactly. I agree with your definition. Plenty of women will know a guy socially for a while and then maybe they get flirty at a party and they wind up back at his place. And then it turns into a relationship. But the beginning was still casual sex. If it didn't turn into a relationship it would have obviously been casual sex. It doesn't matter that he's not a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:51 PM
1

A nerdy, introverted woman who is actually attractive is easy pickings. If no guy has noticed her yet it's because she's not attractive. It's not like nerdy women don't like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:42 PM
1

Didn't like what though, the actual sex or the fact that the guy was just using her and didn't want a relationship? Because the latter is exactly what TRP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:41 PM
1

Why do you still believe in this fantasy of "marriage material"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:38 PM
1

CMV: Most attractive, dateable, neurotypical american women with healthy libidos have had casual sex at some point. I don't understand why so many women here insist that MOST women haven't. Some reasons why a woman may not have had casual sex: - Stayed together forever with her first boyfriend. She's not on the market, is literally undateable and therefore irrelevant to discussion of the dating landscape. - Too unattractive to get any offers. i.e. undateable. - Asexual, low libido, or other sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:03 PM
23

So emotional vulnerability is good, but not too soon, not too much, and you still might get turned off by it anyway, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:04 PM
1

Would you like me to go over the development of romantic love as a concept dating from the courtly love tradition of the Medieval era, compare and contrast it to, for example, the Romantic period in art and music, Sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:51 AM
2

My friend circle is wide, I, personally don’t see any of the guys as having ‘status’ they are all just finance and tech bro. The women they date are all either in similar industries or are similarly educated. Their friends are also in finance, or tech in some way shape for form. If your social circle is all tech and finance bros then it is not wide and obviously none of the guys have status.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:33 AM
3

Nicely said. A true man of culture and she replies with a wikipedia link lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:30 AM
3

I see. Yes that's weird. When you said cancelled dates it sounded like they didn't live together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:33 AM
3

So the better guy wasn't that into her and had better options and she was forced to settle for a guy on her actual level. The poster above is right, it sounds like you're perfectly describing what TRP talks about even if he technically doesn't have the bux. She's shown that she will cheat and branch swing, so it won't be surprising if she does it again the minute a better guy gives her attention. You made it sound like they were in an actual ltr. Now you're talking about "cancelling dates". It s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:21 AM
9

Most women don’t participate in casual sex (I realize that this point relies on self-reported statistics and that women generally under-report sex partners, but to deny it you have to assume that the wide majority of women are lying and I don’t think that’s a particularly credible claim) I don't have to make any assumptions, I just know for a fact that every woman I've ever been with has had casual sex, either because they did it with me, because they told me, or because our LTR started with cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:15 AM
8

Notice that you specify "in an LTR" meaning that women will have casual sex or short term flings with those exciting bad boys, they're just not "relationship material". If you're in your 20s I don't think you have a very good perspective on which of the relationships in your social circle are going to last long term and how and why some might eventually end or what their relationship dynamics might look like 20 years from now. Some of your friends might currently be with the guy who is going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:41 AM
8

I know I'm a good listener but I have no way of knowing what her previous sexual partners were like. See the difference? I'm personally not worried about it but it shouldn't be a big mystery why it's something some men would be worried about. I know why my partner ended all of her previous LTRs and it was never because he wasn't a good listener.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:38 AM
8

I'm in a happy relationship and I'm a good partner. But I'm smart enough to know that our life together as a middle aged couple is never going to be as wild and exciting as the non-stop party lifestyle she and her ex lived in their 20s. And if she ever cheats or leaves me it's not going to be because I don't love her enough. It's going to be because the other guy is new and exciting, hotter, or more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:08 AM
9

Sure, after the hot toxic bad boy she's going to decide that she doesn't want that anymore and just wants the nice, comfortable, safe, boring, relationship guy. But there's a good chance that when she finds him she's going to eventually get bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:03 AM
7

The "alpha widow" concept IS about emotions. It can be about excitement, unpredictability, ups and downs, and a whole rollercoaster of emotions that never leave her bored. The type of typical "being the best boyfriend" characteristics you're talking about are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:18 PM
1

An alpha widow isn't necessarily hung up on any particular guy. It's just that the level of guy that she had casual sex with but who wouldn't commit to her sets a standard (of attractiveness, of excitement, of sexual satisfaction, of masculinity) that the commitment guy can never live up to. If you had casual flings with higher value men than your husband then his weird obsession with a high school crush would be a gross turnoff to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:27 PM
–

I think most of us are probably over the age of 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:26 PM
–

Not entirely true. https://femmefrugality.com/myth-busting-womens-banking/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:26 PM
–

Being celebrity adjacent like that isn't great in my experience. Worst case scenario is that she's had just enough of a taste of that world that the real world is always a little disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:21 PM
–

Even for very skinny women it's still most attractive for them to have an hourglass figure with larger hips and a skinny waist. It's not about fat it's about the hip to waist ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:16 PM
6

"The wall" is about finding the best possible guy to settle down and have kids with, it's not about casual sex. Obviously women can sleep around forever, but they can't have kids forever, and their ability to find suitable father/husband material who isn't already taken doesn't last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:13 AM
1

1 - cute. maybe a 6 2 - the only one that I would say is striking or hot or beautiful. 9 maybe 3 - weird looking in that way models often are, but I guess objectively a 6 or 7 4 - I mean I wouldn't call her unattractive but she's uncanny and weird looking. too much plastic surgery? not attractive to me but I guess objectively also 6 or 7? 5 - same as above
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:17 PM
1

iterally all of these people are 10s. You're not allowed to be a pop star or a model/actress unless you're a 10. LOL no. First of all lots of models are weird looking. It's kind of a thing. It's "edgy". And weird looking people stand out a bit more than people who are kind of blandly generically beautiful. And actors often have some weird feature that makes them stand out like Julia Roberts huge mouth. Pop stars are generally the least attractive of the 3 fields because you actually do need some…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:13 PM
4

No, most women are unattractive. If her face is a 3 she's a 3. Also not being overweight doesn't necessarily mean she has a nice body. The whole "just be skinny" thing is really stupid imo. Lots of women are flat chested, have weird butts, no hips, weird proportions, etc. Some women can be every bit as genetically fucked as the short guys who are always whining. I guess there are just a lot of guys with zero standards. If you think women who are 3s are attractive then you're probably a 2 or 3 yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:05 PM
4

They are projecting their own insecurities and obsessions on others. As if women don't stalk the social media of a guy's exes when she starts dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:56 PM
0

Women know men can handle one heartbreak/lifetime LOL. The minute a guy sleeps with a woman who is hotter than his exes he forgets all about them. You're just describing a loser who peaked early and does nothing to improve himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:54 PM
4

We all know a man who got their heartbroken by some girl in high school and since then they have not been able to commit or open up emotionally to any other girl emotionally. When women do what you're describing TRP refers to it as being "alpha widowed". So you're agreeing with TRP essentially. The thing is men have a lot of ways that we can improve ourselves and level up the type of women we attract so it's much less common. I'm lucky in that every relationship I've been in has been better than…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:51 PM
–

Uh, she's just straight up ugly. wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:36 PM
-1

LOL no most women don't care about that at all because most women have had casual sex and have a lot of options so it's nbd if it doesn't lead to a relationship. If she's really into the guy she might be bummed, but put yourself in her shoes: is your biggest fear that some hot woman way out of your league is going to use you for sex and then ghost you? No of course not, you would be happy to have had the experience and disappointed that you don't get to see her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:58 PM
1

Slowly she gets more comfortable and usually by date 3 she will sleep with you. Ouch. You're doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:48 AM
1

Come on, we've all been to the DMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:58 PM
2

Also interesting No. None of this is interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:47 PM
35

I don't think that men who are born into wealth have any problem. They socialize with women from similar wealthy backgrounds and marry into other wealthy and powerful families. If you're just talking about some average dude who happened to get lucky getting an office job that pays him way too much money? Well yeah he's not going to be able to date some old money woman but it would be much easier for him to hide his wealth since he's still going to come across as some nerdy average dude, not some…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:40 PM
1

Yeah it seems like a lot to me. Say 18-35, that's an average of about a year and a half per relationship which would be a red flag to me. Even if it was like one 6-year-long relationship and 11 one year long relationships, that would still be a red flag. So I guess you're counting lots of little short term flings as relationships, which is also kind of a red flag since it implies you don't take relationships very seriously (or everyone bails quickly). Exclusivity doesn't necessarily = "relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:31 PM
1

I was joking somewhat but that does seem like a lot of relationships. I'm assuming either you're defining relationship really loosely or you're older? What do you consider a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:01 AM
1

No, exceptionally attractive women just have more social mobility and are therefore more visible to you. An exceptionally attractive woman born in rural Russia gets groomed to be a model from a young age, is given plastic surgery, and ends up in NY, Paris, etc. Her male counterpart is bleeding out in a ditch right now. The hottest girl in bumfuck nebraska goes out to Hollywood to follow her dreams and doors open up for her. Even if it's just the fact that she easily gets a job as a server at a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:00 AM
1

12!? Do you even remember all of their names?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:47 PM
1

US porn industry makes between 12-14 billion revenue a year in a country with a GDP of 23 trillion. German prostitution industry makes 11 billion revenue a year in a country with a GDP of 4 trillion. Would you say that porn is rare or niche?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:45 PM
1

Bro, GDP means the entire gross domestic product of a whole country. The question "what's the gdp of los angeles starbucks" is nonsensical. The average annual revenue per store for Starbucks is 900k so we can estimate that the total gross revenue for LA area Starbucks locations is around 145 million. If total German prostitution industry is 11b for 3000 brothels, that's $3,666,666 per brothel. So we can estimate that the 500 brothels in Berlin might have grossed around 1.8 billion euros.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:18 PM
1

LOL you don't even know what GDP means clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:41 AM
1

That’s one in every 25 so you would have to know fewer than 25 men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:22 AM
1

Population of Los Angeles 3.8 million, 162 Starbucks locations, 71 McDonalds locations. Population of Berlin 3.6 million, 500 brothels US population 331 million, total US music industry revenue 15 billion, total US porn industry revenue 12 billion German population 83 million, prostitution industry revenue 11 billion I guess music, porn, McDonalds and Starbucks are all "rare" now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:43 AM
1

Whatever man, you win. 3000 brothels in Germany, 500 in Berlin alone, serving 1.2 million customers a day for an 11 billion a year industry is "rare".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:32 AM
1

Obviously none of us can know the private lives of others but it's pretty easy to put 2 and 2 together. If you don't know any men who are obviously celibate then you must not know very many people. I have a relative who is in his 50s, very large, lives with his parents, very socially awkward, and he's never had a girlfriend. Now I can't say for certain that he's never gotten laid but I would place money on him being a virgin. I knew a friend of a friend in college who was very short, schizophren…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:26 AM
1

Sounds pretty sheltered tbh. You've never met anyone mentally ill, on the spectrum, or just plain ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:33 PM
1

But again, women and children. So let's say that's only 15 million adult male tourists and 35 million german men for a total of 50 million. 1.2 million customers a day is 438 million a year. That's an average of 8.76 trips to the brothel per man per year. If the average customer goes once a month that would be 36 million men or about 73% of the combined german+tourist number. If once a week trips are the average then that's 8.4 million customers which is still about 17% of 50 million local and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:29 PM
1

Uh 83 million people lol. 15% are kids. Of the adults, half are men, so it's more like 35 million adult men. So that's more like 3.4%. But that's EVERY DAY! Let's say the average customer goes once a week, then it becomes 24% of adult men. If the average is once a month that's about 100% of the adult male population. Now obviously it's not that high because a lot of the customers are tourists, but it's way more than 1.4%
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:38 PM
2

I'm not a lawyer but it looks like the issue comes down to the concept of "public accommodations". So yes a brothel that is not handicap accessible could get in trouble, but a prostitute who operates as an independent contractor and does house calls would be perfectly in their rights to choose which clients they work for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:41 PM
1

A quick google says that in Germany there are 3000 brothels and the industry is worth 11billion a year, with an estimated 400,000 prostitutes and 1.2 million customers a day. Doesn't sound very rare!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:32 PM
1

I don't think so or else you already would have seen this problem in porn which is legal. It's basically about plausible deniability as well. If a baker says "I will not make cakes for gay weddings because it's against my religion" then they're opening themselves up to a legal challenge that they wouldn't have had if they just said "sorry I'm booked full right now, let me recommend this other baker".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:23 PM
1

Nah that's abortion. If prostitution were safe and legal it definitely would not be rare!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:22 PM
–

Really? I rarely see any posters that seem to have actually understood trp. There seems like a lot of blackpill and autistic types and lots of people who completely misunderstand or misrepresent trp. TBH no truly redpill guy would waste any time here so the most redpill leaning types are more purple types who have a reason to be open to debating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:57 PM
3

The women here are completely dishonest when they're trying to win an argument. To see real honesty you have to look at relationship advice, sex, twoxchromosomes, and other places where they feel safe to tell the truth. I'm sure if you did an n count survey here the average would be 5 but any place else on reddit where they felt safe in a sex-positive environment it would be more like 20-40.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:54 PM
1

I'm just going by what other women say. Some women actually have some kind of hormonal motherly instinct that kicks in at a certain point. It isn't something men made up. But I guess maybe it's a myth https://www.huffpost.com/entry/childfree_b_1752906
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:59 PM
4

Maybe not, but it's weird to say you knew without a doubt at 9. It would be like if a 9 year old boy said "ew girls, gross". He might be gay but probably he's going to change his tune in a couple of years when he goes through puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:54 PM
-2

I just say that as someone who has dated women in their 40s who regret never having kids. I love my kids but I have no feeling at all about other people's babies. They don't trigger some emotional, hormonal response in me. Do you really think that all of the women who experience that are just conditioned by society to feel that way? There's no biological, hormonal component involved in wanting to be a mother? Of course even if there is a hormonal component that doesn't mean there aren't women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:03 PM
1

TRP specifically tells men not to waste time watching mindless entertainment and playing videogames. But then to me TRP was a subreddit with information shared freely, not some youtube channel or podcast, so I don't even know what some of you consider trp these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:11 PM
15

Most women I know don’t even want children, so the whole “ring and a bump by 30” pressure doesn’t really hit the same anymore. It's biology. It's only going to get worse with all of these women convincing themselves they don't want kids and delaying it longer and longer before the biological reality kicks in. It’s a harsh reality of life that some people have an easier time finding sex and relationships than others. TRP is all about exposing men to harsh realities. The point is to become that gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:03 PM
2

You should get advice from people older and more experienced that you. That's true for basically any field, any topic, anything in life. Why would an inexperienced person take advice from equally inexperienced peers? The young boys who do get good advice tend to get it from older brothers, cool uncles and male figures like that, not their peers. What if you're friends with people who are less experienced than you, who are gay, who have unattractive girlfriends, or who have been with the same per…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 12:42 AM
2

And btw most people don't just "figure it out in their early teens". Girls don't have much to figure out since boys do all of the work. And if girls can just "figure it out" why do they need dating advice in things like teen magazines, books, "the rules", and fds? If girls don't need help learning how to be attractive to men why are there so many makeup and hair tutorials, beauty tips, fashion magazines, and all of that? That kind of stuff has existed for decades for girls and women without any …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 12:37 AM
1

TRP was a space for men to share dating advice because our parents, the media, and the "blupilled" society at large gives terrible advice that's often the opposite of what successful men do. How is that not self-evident with even the most basic understanding of TRP? They say "ask the fisherman not the fish" or "watch what they do, not what they say" because women give completely wrong advice to men. So obviously your mother is going to give you bad advice. And one of the core books that newcomer…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:57 PM
7

making sure they don't get taken advantage of They go hand in hand. People who don't know how to be attractive to the opposite sex are very vulnerable to being taken advantage of. They don't have a lot of options or experience so these are precisely the men who get used for their money and the women who get manipulated for easy sex. why would you believe they are good sources of information? This is the entire point of TRP. Also it's not like parents aren't giving advice to boys they just give r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:58 PM
1

That's true and your point about the "angry black woman" stereotype is really interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:14 AM
13

I think the problem is that a lot of women are hyper vigilant about male anger to the point that it's the only emotion they see or care about. I can't tell you how many times I've been exhausted, stressed out from work, hurt by something a partner said, annoyed by something a partner did, depressed about something going on in life, or just quiet and in my head and have been asked "are you mad at me"? It's never "are you ok", "how are you feeling", "is there anything I can do", "sorry I said that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:42 PM
10

very few of us know how quickly the women we know had sex with their various partners/how often. It's pretty easy for some men to get a feeling for general trends based on the women they date. If 9 out of 10 women I date jump into bed with me on the first date, it's pretty safe to assume that most women do or have done that at some point. Men can just read about other mens experiences online and apply occam's razor. Are hundreds of men going online anonymously and concocting stories to impress o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:04 PM
2

LOL people like Einstein and Hawking had time for both. There's evidence that Tesla and Newton were gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:29 AM
2

Let's be real they were probably gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:57 PM
2

True it's also why fame and status are so powerful because its the perfect mix of a false sense of comfort due to social proof combined with the excitement of a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:28 AM
7

It's a debate forum. The problem is that basic statements of fact are regularly taken as some kind of misogynistic attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:25 PM
9

Another thing is that I'm convinced that men have a biological drive to fuck while women have a biological drive to raise children (biological clock, baby rabies). After marriage, kids, and divorce, some women might feel satisfied that they've already had kids and that drive is gone so they're happy single. But men still have that drive to fuck. This could be why men are more likely to remarry after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:31 PM
47

There's a compounding effect too. If you're a little weird or shy you're going to have a hard time finding a partner and then you'll be a social outcast not just because you're single but also for the weirdness that made you single in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:29 PM
1

LOL I hang out in those scenes and they are absolutely full of narcissists and sociopaths who stand out the most and get the most attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:43 PM
1

"Well he's not fuckable but I'll clean his apartment and cook him dinner anyway"... said NO WOMAN EVER lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:15 AM
1

Success vs failure is pretty binary. Yes a failure can lead to lessons learned but it's still a failure. You're essentially admitting that with your last post. How about me, am I successful with women or unsuccessful with women? I had 3 girlfriends through middle school and high school. I've had 3 serious long term relationships as an adult, one of which was a very long marriage with kids which I chose to end. In between relationships I've had short flings and one night stands. I'm currently liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:46 AM
1

So you would say that a man who has been in a lot of different relationships but they never last very long and every time he's the one getting dumped by his girlfriend is a guy who is "successful with women"? You're being absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:27 PM
1

LOL what? "Success with women" logically implies a few different things. 1: The plural "women" implies a pattern. That it's a man who a lot of women find attractive and would want to be in a relationship with. A man who has only been with one woman can't really be said to be "successful with women" because no pattern has been established with multiple women. 2: You have to take the man's goals into consideration. If a guy has no trouble dating lots of attractive women and they would all love for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:46 PM
1

It's a very good shorthand metric for whether or not a range of different women tend to like a guy and find him attractive. But if you want to go deeper let's break it down by short term vs long term, success vs failure, and what a man's particular goals are. Man #1 - Is able to date easily from a young age, has lots of attractive girlfriends, some short term flings, and finally meets a woman to marry and they live happily ever after. Everybody would agree this man is successful with women right…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:09 PM
–

Different men get different treatment. Why? Because they are different fucking people. Yes one is attractive and successful with women and the other isn't. If the goal of both men is to sleep with the woman in question and one succeeds in doing that more quickly and with fewer strings attached, then by definition wasn't he more successful? Same as when may say a woman is for a "good time" or "relationship material". Right, if a woman sleeps with a bunch of guys and none of them want to stick aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:18 PM
1

Nah you still have time to fix yourself but not much. It's definitely weird but not past the point of no return imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:06 PM
–

Most women have had casual sex and are open to having casual sex, sometimes on the first date, sometimes with strangers from an app, or someone they just met at a bar. Guys who have experienced it firsthand or seen it second hand know this is the case. So if that same woman turns around and makes a guy wait for months and jump through hoops before she has sex with him that's a good sign that she's not really sexually attracted to him and is just settling into a relationship with him for some oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:57 PM
–

Because people settle. And most women have had casual sex. So men who haven't had casual sex but have gotten married should know they're being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:23 PM
–

The sub rules say no incel content and no woe is me posting but apparently that's not being enforced anymore. It's supposed to be a sub debating red pill vs blue pill, it's not a sub to discuss developmental disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:45 PM
0

It's a sub about dating. Do high school jocks have trouble dating? Masculine hobbies are not unattractive at all but things like gaming aren't masculine, they're childish. It's not gendered it's immature, which is very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:42 PM
1

Most men don't like dancing which is why if you're comfortable with it and good at it, that can be very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:12 PM
1

If you're a grown ass adult and your idea of a hobby is "gaming/yu-gi-oh"... well there's your problem. Not all men have "gender specific hobbies" some people are into cool things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:11 PM
–

This sub seems to have become overrun with autistic dudes. It's like every third thread. I don't get it. Yeah it sucks and it's a major disadvantage, what do they want people to do about it? It's like making thread after thread saying "looks don't matter, what matters most is that you have all of your limbs". It's something that affects a tiny minority of the population, it's not a major issue affecting most people on the dating scene. Sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:08 PM
31

Above average guys are in a tough situation which is exactly what TRP is about. Ugly people know they're unattractive and can match up with each other. The absolute hottest 9 and 10 women can have anyone so they tend to end up with guys who are rich or famous. This leaves an overabundance of the hottest 9 and 10 guys who then skew the whole above average range by casually sleeping around with 6s and 7s. Guys who are a 6 or 7 can't really lower their standards and still be with someone attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:57 PM
–

But women here say they see average guys in relationships all of the time. TRP is about not getting dead bedroomed, not getting nagged and manipulated and used, and not jumping through hoops for months dating a woman before she has sex with you, things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:30 AM
9

No it started out with a lot of older divorced guys and just average dudes who had problems in relationships. It was NOT created by or meant for incels, autists, and kissless stem virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:28 AM
1

Nope, BP is fine on dating and meeting new people. Just be a nice guy have a good personality, take her out on fancy dates, and all of that. That's why most guys who find TRP have already had relationships but they've ended badly or have been a constant struggle and guys don't understand why she lost attraction and left him for someone else. TRP is for casual sex and for keeping attraction going (essentially a relationship even if it's short term or non-exclusive).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:12 PM
–

Boring guys are predictable, unambitious, not very social, homebodies, don't like traveling, risk averse, shy and introverted, have nerdy interests. Exciting guys are spontaneous, have big plans and goals, lots of friends, go out a lot and get invited to do fun things, take her on fun trips, down to do exciting thrilling things, outgoing, friendly and fun, and have attractive interests like being athletic, creative, and building things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:02 PM
2

That's one way to look at it but my probably controversial take is that it's the other way around. Women want mothers and men want fathers. Hear me out. Postwar american families have passed down several generations of absent fathers either physically (at the office, traveling for work, off to war, dead, deadbeat, in prison) or at least distant and emotionally unavailable. This left women to run the household and raise the children. This is described in No More Mr Nice Guy. As a result, a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:29 PM
0

It depends. First of all what do you mean by single dad? A guy with fulltime custody of 3 young children is a different story than a guy with one teenager who drives who he has 50% of the time. Also age matters a lot. A 20 year old with a young kid is different than a 45 year old dad trying to date 45 year old women. In my experience (divorced with a kid 50% of the time) it hasn't hurt my dating life. For casual sex it doesn't matter at all. Nobody even needs to know. There's no need to mention …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:17 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter