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Those social pressures exist because those things are necessary for society to exist. They didn't just come out of nowhere cause some people decided to be annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 01:56 AM
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You're confusing a provider with a beta. You can be a provider and not be a beta, and you can be a beta without being a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 12:44 AM
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There aren't any 'biological truths' in the relationship sense Hypergamy definitely seems like a biological truth. The best thing we can do i's liberate individuals Liberate them from what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 12:42 AM
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I wasn't aware that multinational corporations weren't being taxed, and I doubt the churches will have any money if they'll have barely any attendance at that point anyway. Also, people have enforced self subdued retirement savings these days So? Are you trying to say that the pension system should be removed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 11:54 PM
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I can't believe I've triggered your insecurities this much. I don't care either way dude, I just don't consider you European.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 11:53 PM
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How does that make any difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 05:23 PM
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China and India account for the majority of CO2 emissions globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 05:09 PM
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And how will you take care of a global aged population? If 30-40% of the population will be pensioners, pretty much every industry will collapse since you'll have to pay taxes out the ass to keep those people alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 05:02 PM
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No, but I have met both Turks and Georgians. How is this relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:52 PM
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The only "evidence" you've provided so far that it is European is that you're an Orthodox Christian country, but so is Ethiopia so that's nonsensical. In Eastern Europe we share many things, the most important by far being a shared history and heritage. We have very similar cultures due to them being influenced by the exact sources, we share many linguistic similarities, as well as architectural.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:41 PM
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Nah, I accept you can be considered Eastern European based on a technicality, but culturally you are definitely not Eastern European. eurobarometer also included Turkey and Azerbaijan, which are as European as your country is, as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:11 PM
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So what's your point then? That women aren't directly attracted to violence or cruelty, but aren't repulsed by it either?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:02 PM
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Yeah, cause you're technically West of the Urals. Kazakhstan is also included.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:00 PM
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Bro, I've never heard of a gang member that had issues getting women. I feel your entire argument is based on sophistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:51 PM
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Humans ARE apes, and all apes descend from monkeys. Don't be pedantic if you're wrong. Anyway, I don't really care either way, but you can look up "eastern european map" on google and see how many actually include Georgia or Armenia or those other countries. You're just not in our cultural sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:48 PM
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We also descend from monkeys, but I don't really consider monkeys my people. And I'm pretty sure the western part of Turkey is way more European DNA-wise than any part of Georgia.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:19 PM
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somewhat average somewhat easily Damn... what a mark of confidence there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:11 PM
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You're as much of an Eastern Euro country as Turkey is. Stop kidding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:09 PM
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I'm curious since I'm also East European, but what country are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:52 PM
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It's paraphrasing, what difference does it make? You can't even say how the quotes are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:14 PM
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Every stat on the matter shows it's women that have way more of a problem being in relationships with men that make less than them than men do the other way around. So you're either another unicorn that posts on PPD, or your question is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:57 PM
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You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:48 PM
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What stopped women from creating their own systems?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:00 PM
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It makes no difference since they both say the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:59 PM
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OK, and? Unless your argument is that the greater opportunity is somehow unfair or artificial, then I fail to see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:19 PM
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Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:18 PM
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it is not a parent's duty to properly raise their kids It is not, your mothers job to raise you to be good. These seem like identical statements. You didn't explain what I strawmanned either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:17 PM
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You're again mistaking basic guidance with over-dependence. This conversation isn't going anywhere and I feel like we're just going in circles. Maybe it's a problem with your English or something but it feels you don't understand anything I say and you either purposefully misrepresent my argument or you genuinely can't tell what I'm saying. Either way it's pretty tiresome so this is my last reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:15 PM
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It is not, your mothers job to raise you to be good. Please tell me what difference there is between this exact quote and what I greentexted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:53 PM
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it is not a parent's duty to properly raise their kids Jesus fucking Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:47 PM
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But romantic doesn't equal sexual, you keep trying to make these false equivalences in the hopes that I'll defend your strawman so you could have a leg to stand on. If women want good men then they should raise them. I fail to see how this is controversial in any way or asking for too much. If women are unable for some reason to impart any useful lesson on their sons, then maybe the single mother phenomenon should be squashed for everyone's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:33 PM
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Are you still stuck on this? When have I ever even said "sexual advice"? This is purely your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:08 PM
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Vaginas are pretty gross, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:23 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:26 AM
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The article starts out by saying that many of the women were innocent, and then immediately says that even the guilty women weren't really guilty cause they simply HAD to fuck the German soldiers or they were just bored, so that excuses it. I fail to see the point of that link.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 08:25 AM
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I never said that mothers should teach their sons how to rub the clit, that is again, your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:51 AM
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Act masculine, confident, focus on making money, don't make too many compromises and stay fit. If men follow this advice from an early age they'd be attractive to the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:52 AM
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Your body is 60% water and 40% strawman arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:36 AM
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And? I said "typically".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:34 AM
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Seems strange because typically fathers do tell their daughters plenty about boys and what to watch out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:21 AM
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Tell me about it. A woman here is currently telling me how mothers giving advice to their boys about women equals coddling and boys should just learn about it on the internet instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:21 AM
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I don't know what that sentence means. Wanna try and rewrite it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:19 AM
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Seems strange because typically fathers do tell their daughters plenty about boys and what to watch out for. What's hyperbolic about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:16 AM
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So where exactly is the line drawn?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:15 AM
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So a mother should never teach her son anything about girls? Nothing at all? Seems strange because typically fathers do tell their daughters plenty about boys and what to watch out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:14 AM
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not insignificant proportion Which equals what? What a vague statement. Why ar you trying to claim otherwise? Cause those women didn't get their head shaved and paraded through public after WW2 cause they got raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:12 AM
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1 out of 4 means 25%, 4 out of 10 means 40%, I think there are some women in that 15% that do technically have men be part of the kid's life but couldn't really qualify as being properly raised by a father. That was my point by giving both of those stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:11 AM
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You are equating basic guidance with over-dependence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:58 PM
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A strawman, again. You have this image in your head of some 25 yo manchild that requires his 50 yo mother to dress him before going on dates, whereas I was talking about underaged boys simply being given life lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:52 PM
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What a nice strawman you have there. When you're done with that maybe we can return to our conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:42 PM
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Most of that 1% are men, so it follows that fewer men are submitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:40 PM
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No, but if I came out of my coworker's vagina I'll call them mommy. I don't know how you think you can raise a kid without ever giving them advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:38 PM
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Yes, I do. Let's recap: I say women have way more influence over men during their youth than other men do, so it follows logically that they are able to impart many more lessons on them and should therefore be able to groom them into becoming proper men. You retort by saying that this is equivalent to a woman having the job of getting her son laid, and not just basic parenting. And that boys should learn how to woo girls from the internet instead. I counter that boys being raised by the internet…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:34 PM
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Are you claiming that most of those women were raped? What source do you have for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:32 PM
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War is not a biological reality, it's a social one. Neither violence nor war are unique to the human species, and neither of these things only happen due to desperation. More often than not they're a reproductive strategy. Are lions "socialized" to try and kill other lions to become leaders of the pride? Are ants "socialized" to take over other anthills?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:29 PM
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Kids getting raised by the internet doesn't seem to be all that healthy. And there's no reason to resort to hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:26 PM
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According to the stats 4 out of 10 children in the US are born to unwed mothers, and 1 in 4 children are raised without a father. So I suppose you're correct, but the numbers are high enough that the results are strange. If women know exactly what they find attractive and they have so much authority and influence over the boys they raise, what exactly is stopping them from raising attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 07:22 PM
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But TRP is filled with success stories, and most dudes that are successful with women, while they might not even be aware that TRP exists aren't really nice guys™ or blue pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:30 PM
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You can find examples of Roman graffiti where some woman says she'd die for her husband and she wouldn't give him up for anything. One of the quotes was "House of Caprasius Primus: I don't want to sell my husband, not for all the gold in the world" That Spartan king that exiled himself cause he was rejected by a woman, tons of Greek poems about people dedicating their lives to their loved ones, etc. Stop coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:19 PM
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The MCDojo Karate analogy doesn't stand when the majority of champions out there are graduates from it or follow the same theory. FDS is mostly bullshit but it'll kill most TRP users easy. Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:49 AM
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Aren't most boys raised by single mothers nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:42 AM
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"Love" didn't even exist until it was created sometime in the Middle Ages. Imagine being this mentally broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 10:39 AM
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In the US the average age of marriage is 30 for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 12:32 AM
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I think those girls just got off to the bad boy vibes rather than being afraid of saying no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:57 PM
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The OP just made an argument about the Sabine women and I felt like intervening since I thought he was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:52 PM
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I have no clue what you're trying to say with this rant, but the human species is naturally patriarchal. Look at any primitive tribe that still exists to this day and you'll see that every tribal leader is a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:50 PM
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Nah, none of those girls were threatened or anything like that. There was 0 coercion involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 04:48 PM
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But the overwhelming majority of mammal species work in patriarchies, and there is not 1 recorded example of a matriarchal human community. All human communities that we know of were patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 10:11 AM
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Christ...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 10:09 AM
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You understand that the whole story is a myth, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 01:49 AM
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Oh my fucking god... [They], from the outrage on whom the war originated, with hair dishevelled and garments rent, the timidity of their sex being overcome by such dreadful scenes, had the courage to throw themselves amid the flying weapons, and making a rush across, to part the incensed armies, and assuage their fury; imploring their fathers on the one side, their husbands on the other, "that as fathers-in-law and sons-in-law they would not contaminate each other with impious blood, nor stain t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 01:45 AM
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This wasn't a modern war with bombs and shit, it was a battle with swords and shields between men. The women weren't on the battlefield and neither were their kids. Women and their kids entering the battlefield is what ENDED the battle because the men didn't want to hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 01:39 AM
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So how were their kids in danger again? The reason the Sabine women intervened was because they didn't want their relatives OR their husbands to die. And they used their kids as leverage to end the fighting, but their kids weren't in danger since neither side wanted to hurt the women or the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 01:25 AM
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Are you talking out of your ass now? Are you not familiar with the story of the Sabine women? The battle/s that happened were purely between Roman men and the male family members of the kidnapped women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 01:15 AM
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I used to see a bunch of dudes post instagram pics and snapchat videos from Mexican cartel members, and those guys fucked so many women it was insane. It wasn't even prostitutes or anything, just regular hot women. I remember a specific example where a guy would post videos of him literally chatting up random women on the street and then he'd post a pic with them sucking his dick a few hours later. Even though those women knew he was a criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:53 AM
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For the betterment of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:44 AM
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They'd lose their kids how?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:43 AM
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Alright, thanks for the review.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:24 PM
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Then why did you reply with a question mark?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:19 PM
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What are you confused about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:17 PM
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things did not go very well for the women who dated the invaders and had their babies. That's cause the invaders lost. How is that a counter argument? They probably sucked some dick and offered some ass. Is this your yaoi fanfic?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:12 PM
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But they weren't defending Rome or their husbands Except they did defend Rome and their husbands. They directly intervened to stop the conflict and convinced their families to integrate into Roman society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 10:09 PM
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The dude is now a millionaire and is dating a billionaire's daughter. And that's only cause girls on twitter creamed themselves over how he looked like in his mugshot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:26 PM
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It will hurt the potential children that those women will produce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:24 PM
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If you count women marrying in their 40's, like I said before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:23 PM
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I have no clue what point you're making. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:22 PM
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So most overall women can't, but top 5-10% of women can. Not much of a revelation there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 02:43 PM
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but also not worthy of condemnation Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 02:41 PM
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I see. Well, the argument started around the idea that women can easily find a marriage partner which I still disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 02:06 PM
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I don't see how the latter example gets to apparently live out her dreams, since she still doesn't get what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 01:44 PM
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If a woman stays as a gf to one man in hopes that she'll marry her, or if she hops from man to man hoping that they'll marry her with no success, then she's a forever gf in both scenarios. I don't understand why being rejected by one man is worse than being rejected by several.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:45 PM
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How are those two things contradictory?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:32 PM
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well those women have been groomed by society to ignore their instincts & to live a life of servitude Were women all warrior queens before society existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:32 PM
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According to the stats I've seen, about 1/4 of people 25+ are "never married", and this number is rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:27 PM
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I've seen this posted before and I still haven't seen where the stats are from. The links provided are from a gov website, but the exact paper is never linked. I have found that the median age for marriage for women is 28 and for men 30, so the link seems accurate, but not sure how it helps your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 12:07 PM
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Doesn't the story of Jeremy Meeks prove you wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:37 AM
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What narrative? That having kids and a family is a good thing? How will society operate without that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:33 AM
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Yeah, but those "some" are a small minority of men, and that demographic gets even smaller when you start considering if you want to marry them or if they want to marry you. You're making it seem like you can just easily find a dude to marry no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:22 AM
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Really depends what you mean by "someday", cause you might have to wait until your 40's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:17 AM
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Correct. It does seem egalitarianism is a massive handicap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 07:39 PM
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Men are also a lot less neurotic and sensitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 07:39 PM
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No, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 07:38 PM
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society bad cause my pussy dry :( And they say men are immature and obsessed with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:50 AM
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You can apply the same logic to the entire human species. If acting in an egalitarian matter would be a more efficient system, then our species would be genderless hermaphrodites. But since we're sexed and sexually dimorphic, then obviously gender roles are useful and a net positive. Also, it depends what you mean by "in the long run", since any society in which such egalitarian ideology is prevalent generally will have a below replacement birthrate which will lead to an aging population, higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 10:01 PM
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I was just being pedantic. I know that most women don't find the average man attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 09:25 PM
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I don't know if this qualifies as "surface complaining", but women report being less happy on average than men nowadays. https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 03:36 PM
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Relative to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 03:16 PM
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I didn't misrepresent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 03:15 PM
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I am capable, which is why you're so butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:22 PM
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The only people that say stuff like "that isn't what I said" without clarifying what they actually said, are the people that know they're wrong but they're hoping they won't have to admit it by dragging out the conversation so long that the other person gives up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 01:49 PM
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Men don't put as much effort into their looks the same reason women don't put as much effort into acquiring resources and being competitive. Look at any tournament/championship of any kind. Everything from videogames to chess to snooker to everything is dominated by men, even though physical strength makes no real difference for these competitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 12:39 PM
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most men are average Damn! What a hot take.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 12:29 PM
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That's what you've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 10:24 AM
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You keep saying that if you aren't literally starving to death or can save a couple of bucks a week, then you have now passed the wealth standard of the average woman. Literal nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:46 PM
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Disingenuous. AGAIN. How many more times are you gonna do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:35 PM
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Cause it implies being able to survive is good enough for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:50 PM
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Which one? This? Who wants a partner who can barely survive on their own? That's even more disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:43 PM
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You're being disingenuous by implying that all they expect out of a man is employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:40 PM
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So women want men with money simply for aesthetic reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:09 PM
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Seems so. Which proves you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:49 PM
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We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:55 PM
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It's an edge case simply because it's about rich women marrying poor men, since rich men marrying poor women is relatively common.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:54 PM
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No, certainly all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:16 PM
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Rich women tend to marry rich men. How many millionaire women do you know of that marry plumbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 07:15 PM
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Ah, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:21 PM
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Are you talking about ONS, or relationships? Cause if it's the latter then every woman is low value and your argument is null.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:20 PM
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What fucking country do you live in where women don't ask for money and don't care about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:15 PM
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What's "UMC"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:07 PM
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Having a fetish is fine, the problem is when people have some moral grandstanding and pretend it's anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 04:10 PM
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Is this an American thing? Why do so many people consider non-fat women to be "bony"? The average fit woman has about 20% body fat, they're pretty soft. Since our society looks down on the overweight so much, big girls tend to develop something called a 'personality' From what I've seen fat girls just get more bitter. It's rare to see them have any real hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 03:34 PM
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Give me an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:59 PM
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Oh, ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:13 PM
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I know nothing. I believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:13 PM
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Alright, but I never denied that nor did I ever argue against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:12 PM
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And how exactly do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:56 PM
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Honestly, I don't know what the debate is about anymore. I thought that OP's argument about: 2) A woman during a single intercourse could satisfy multiple men. And often would need multiple men to be satisfied, assuming men are putting as much effort in sex as she does. Was retarded. I don't know what he was trying to say by this and I assumed he argued that women are basically designed to be pleasured by several men at once. I don't know what your argument is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:56 PM
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Alright, well. I'm having a real hard time understanding your point here. so I can't really dispute it or counter it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:52 PM
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I don't fucking understand. Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:51 PM
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That has nothing to do with effort. It has to do with the fact that the male orgasm is necessary for reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:50 PM
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And you believe this is the reason why women need more effort to orgasm? How would this have evolved, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:45 PM
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????
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:44 PM
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But we still eat sugar and we still need sugar to survive. Just cause some people overeat doesn't mean sugar is no longer good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:42 PM
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I don't understand what you're trying to say. Explain your 2nd reason again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:40 PM
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There's statistical evidence that ties a high n count in women with increased chances of drug abuse and many other psychological disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:38 PM
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Yeah, and it has nothing to do with her putting in as much effort or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:36 PM
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It's almost impossible for a woman to put as much effort in as a man. You'll pump her way more than she'll ride you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:35 PM
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assuming men are putting as much effort in sex as she does
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:32 PM
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That isn't because she puts in more effort into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:29 PM
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And often would need multiple men to be satisfied, assuming men are putting as much effort in sex as she does. Lmao! And I would be happy with that arrangement. That explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:18 PM
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Aha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 11:04 AM
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Then that's your personal choice and should not be some evidence about the work you HAVE to put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:53 AM
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No, but it makes no difference. I see what you mean by foam now, but those aren't your only options. You can buy shit that gets wrapped right in the store.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:42 AM
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I wasn't referring to a Deli, most supermarkets are like that. That's how I get all my steaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:41 AM
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I have never in my life seen a meat product wrapped in foam. When I go to the supermarket there's a big selection of meat stuff in a big refrigeration unit, I ask the lady that works there how much of whichever meat I want, she cuts it up for me and gives it to me in a bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:35 AM
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That isn't the same. Lying about your pictures is a different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:34 AM
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Porn site statistics show that plenty of women do, and they tend to watch pretty rough stuff generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:31 AM
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How does that prove that only local stuff is eco friendly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:29 AM
1

You're talking about PUA? I don't think PUA is part of RP at all. Their advice tends to be all over the place generally, so I think they're the male equivalent of horoscope magazines for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:28 AM
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I don't think that's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:27 AM
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So how does this support your argument anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:27 AM
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And only attractive people get married? Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:25 AM
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I don't know what you mean. Women dress like that to get male attention, but getting male attention and chasing men for a relationship aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:35 PM
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No but a not insignificant amount does. Maybe you should only speak for yourself. That was precisely my point.Did you forget? I didn't, most men still get sex and relationships, and they have more sex and relationships than marriages on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:34 PM
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Hard to believe because if a woman actually does pursue men she'll find plenty of success. It's more likely that it's a combination of factors, like financial instability affecting men usually until their late 20's, women disinterested in LTR's until much later in life, women being told that men are their enemies and are trying to oppress them at every corner, less social contact due to the internet, dating being more impersonal due to OLD, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:24 PM
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So most men only fuck prostitutes or dead drunk chicks before they get married? Lmao! it's safe to say that there is a significant amount of men that get married without their wife actually desiring them. This is different from the point you've made before. What does it even have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:05 PM
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The answer is I don't say it but I think it. The more you experience something the more desensitized to it you get. That's just basic logic, regardless of how butthurt you get about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:03 PM
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Can't you just go to the supermarket and get the same thing if it has one of those eco-friendly badges?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:02 PM
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So the butcher gets his meat from his own farm?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:35 PM
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You said that a high libido doesn't correlate with high rate of casual sex because women rarely orgasm from casual sex. This is nonsensical, I don't know how else I'm supposed to explain it to you. The link is supposed to show you that the pathways are similar, so the same way drug addicts need to increase their dose to feel anything with extended usage, so do people that have sex, however it's a lot harder to activate the dopamine pathways through sex than by just increasing the dosage. Do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:25 PM
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Most men that get married don't get married while virgins and have a higher n count than 1 on their wedding day, so this seems false as well. The book I mentioned also said it took its sources from government statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:22 PM
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Or you could go to the mall and supermarket and save yourself 3 trips.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:21 PM
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The higher standards point was yours, not mine lol. That seems to suggest that you didn't agree with it. Otherwise what's the point of mentioning it? Just cause I mentioned it originally doesn't mean you didn't argue the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 06:13 PM
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You said that since casual sex has a lower chance of making a woman orgasm, then that would mean that women with higher libido have no reason to have higher rates of casual sex. Was that not your argument? Explain what your argument was then. I have no problem providing a source, but you have to understand that you are completely biased on it, right? I mean, what amount of scientific evidence would convince you that you basically chemically castrated yourself? Lol! Anyway, here's some evidence: …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 06:03 PM
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I don't like you because you shitpost and always double down on everything, rather than let the conversation have a natural end. Like you just said several replies ago: If you keep a mans balls empty and his belly full you’ve done half the job. But now you're saying it isn't true anymore. You're denying basic human sexual selection just so you can keep replying to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:47 PM
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The higher standards point was yours, not mine lol. I really need to filter you. You shitpost every fucking time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:42 PM
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So what country do you live in again? Cause you seem to imply that a high libido in women doesn't correlate with more sex, or that more casual sex is somehow completely different from more monogamous sex and that the latter is somehow greatly more sexually satisfying. I don't find that to be consistent with reality at all. Please cite your dopamine receptor assertion, cause this is the most r/menwritingwomen thing I've read in this sub so far. You want me to cite my opinion of you? Lmao! Sure, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:41 PM
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I'm saying (for the 900th time) that whether you have an attractive profile is not a good predictor of whether you will be attractive IRL And I'm saying that you're fucking wrong. This only applies to people that outright lie about themselves, but if your profile is accurate, then people will likely find you attractive IRL as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:38 PM
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You said they were sick of working double shifts. Then your argument changed cause even if their husband was a good houseworker that still isn't good enough because housework is apparently not as valuable if your kids help out. Then your argument changed again and apparently divorce is just more beneficial to a woman regardless of most contextual factors. Then your argument changed again and women just have higher standards. So which one is it, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:46 PM
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This seems like an outright denial of reality. You had dozens of women there that constantly dropped their phone numbers and made plans to meet the dudes 2-3 messages in. But apparently this guy was just as attractive as someone that barely gets 2-3 matches a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:43 PM
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Then what is your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:42 PM
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Cause you seem like a low libido person who fried her dopamine receptors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:41 PM
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pulling her weight I don't think pulling your weight as a woman is as hard as pulling your weight as a man. If it was, then that would disprove sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:36 PM
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Yeah, but some women have higher libidos than others. Some women didn't have so much sex that they fried off their dopamine receptors, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:35 PM
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But men almost always pull most of the weight and they don't divorce their wives for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:25 PM
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But being much more willing to meet someone and telling them how hot they are and that you're willing to overlook tons of other issues because they're so physically attractive isn't important when it comes to what their physical attractiveness is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 04:24 PM
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We weren't talking about unemployed, we were talking about stay at home. There's a difference. Stop double posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 03:44 PM
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That just means that women care less about men than men care about women. It has nothing to do with the wife having to work too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 03:44 PM
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Do you remember the chadfish sub? Doesn't that entire sub prove you wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 03:42 PM
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the relationship gets tested when the kids are old enough to help out I don't know about that. Men didn't really divorce women cause their kids helped around the house. According to the article I found their wives still have to come home and do housework. I'm referring to relationships in which men do most of the housework. https://www.medicaldaily.com/more-chores-husband-does-more-likely-marriage-will-end-divorce-242815
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 03:35 PM
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Stay at home husbands do most of the housework, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 03:19 PM
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And why are they even more likely to divorce their stay at home husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 03:02 PM
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He won't be as unhappy if she does have a rocking body, that's my point. Happiness isn't some metaphysical abstract concept, it's influenced by physical reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 03:02 PM
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Unhappy relationships could be equally prevalent regardless of income differences Seems unlikely as women prefer men to be wealthier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 02:08 PM
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You can be a provider while not being beta, and you can be a beta without being a provider. So your argument falls apart there. And betas have less sex than alphas, that's the entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 01:56 PM
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Your "unpaid labor" is much easier than the paid labor that men do. And no shopping takes 2 hours unless you genuinely enjoy shopping and purposefully take as long as possible. Which women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 01:41 PM
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Your point doesn't stand, since most men don't die virgins anyway. The official statistics that you posted don't link to an article, but to a website.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 01:39 PM
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I have no issue with accepting it, but it still means that women find the average man physically unattractive. Whether he can behave in a certain way to make up for it is different. But women aren't attracted to the male body the same way men are to women's bodies, I think that's what OP was driving at.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 01:08 PM
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About? You think he's ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 01:06 PM
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It's from the linked book.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 01:06 PM
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Because it doesn't really happen the other way around. Men have a pretty easy time determining which woman is good looking or not from a picture, and while she can act a certain way to make herself less attractive overall, it doesn't really decrease her PHYSICAL attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:59 PM
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Women are even more likely to divorce stay at home dads, though. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3710922/The-REAL-reason-modern-marriages-end-Women-likely-divorce-stay-home-dads-fail-live-breadwinner-stereotype.html
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:56 PM
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Well first, pheromones aren't known to exist in humans. And why would women decide a man's attractiveness by his movement and voice, but not by how he looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:53 PM
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So you cannot determine if someone like this is attractive without meeting him?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:47 PM
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Those "housework" stats are all worthless. Look at their methodologies and you'll see they take "emotional labor" and "shopping" as housework, and they count shopping for 2 hours as working for 2 hours. Men work more than women in every developed country on the planet, these stats are just a way to twist the facts to portray women as victims yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:45 PM
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That would still mean that the average man is considered physically ugly and he needs to make up for that with his behavior or wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:36 PM
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That link says 67% of men married at least once by age 34, which is a direct contradiction with the link I gave, which stated that only 30% of men married at least once by age 34.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:34 PM
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Then why are women more likely to file for divorce if they make more money than their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:29 PM
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Yes, my bad. The average marriage age is 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:20 PM
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The average marriage age in the US is 27. That statistic measured the 20-34 demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:18 PM
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We were talking about physical beauty standards, not just direct sexual attractiveness. Like how a gay man can still tell if a woman is beautiful even though he's not attracted to her sexually, a woman can be sexually attracted to a man for several reasons. But that doesn't change whether or not he's handsome or good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:16 PM
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Apparently over 2/3 of young men aren't married. https://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:15 PM
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"Am I attracted to a small photograph of this man" is not the same thing as "is this man objectively attractive" So what changes about him physically for the better if he's in person next to you? His smell?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:11 PM
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PUA isn't really the same as RP, and they complain about it because they believe in biological determinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 12:04 PM
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Lmao! Alright then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:25 AM
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We're on a debate sub and we disagree. What do you think we're supposed to be doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:19 AM
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Huh? Convince you of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:18 AM
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Jesus fucking Christ. WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING????
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:15 AM
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Didn't you build an entire career off it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:13 AM
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but just a woman fucking him so enthusiastically she does not even listen to what he wants. That was your initial quote. A woman that is so lost in pleasure that she doesn't even hear the guy anymore. What's the connection between that and femdom?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:11 AM
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You connected a woman losing her mind to pleasure to a man willingly getting dominated. I have tried several times already to make you explain why and how you've made that connection with no success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:07 AM
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I do feel like talking to a wall when talking to you. So you're half right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:02 AM
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and it doesn't have anything to do with "losing your mind to pleasure" anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:00 AM
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There is no position in which a woman dominates a man against his will, and it doesn't have anything to do with "losing your mind to pleasure" anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:55 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:49 AM
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Imagine I'm fucking a girl doggystyle and absolutely destroying her while she just almost blanks out. How is she dominating me in such a scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:42 AM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:27 AM
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Huh? You made the claim that a woman losing her mind from pleasure is the same as femdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:23 AM
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What? If a woman loses control because she feels too much pleasure, how exactly does that equate with her controlling you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:09 AM
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I don't think many men care about women masturbating to porn or shlicking themselves over some erotic book they've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:08 AM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:06 AM
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Most men in relationships from my experience. There isn't a guy I know that hasn't had at least 1 fight with his girlfriend about how long she takes to get ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:05 AM
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That's not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:04 AM
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Because they use more direct ways that are less likely to fail. Women are more cowardly and they choose less violent ways that are more likely to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:03 AM
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Name of the article?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:02 AM
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You've gotta be joking. So you think that every TRP member or any person in general that follows TRP ideology will say "well too bad you're upset, frowning causes wrinkles"? I've never even heard that my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:01 AM
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But the majority of the male rape fantasies to be about getting raped? Seems far-fetched.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:41 PM
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We might be confusing general RP theory with certain reddit sub-cultures. I generally don't visit TRP so I don't know exactly what it's like, and TRP itself didn't even start on Reddit, it was mostly shaped by 4chan. So let's make sure we aren't equating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:39 PM
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Give me an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:27 PM
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Submissive fantasies are the most common types in men and women. According to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:20 PM
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Like spending literally 3 fucking hours in the bathroom to curl your hair the exact right way while most men will barely notice anyway. I speak from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:14 PM
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Basic grooming is obviously a boon, I'm referring to excessively long routines that take hours every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:01 PM
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But I didn't say that. I just said that I haven't found any evidence to support your argument. The burden of proof is on you anyway, so you should be providing me with evidence, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:58 PM
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That still doesn't amount to any sort of pressure. And I'd say this is debatable and it depends on what you mean by "did my hair" or "shaved". Cause men do this as well, it's basic grooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:55 PM
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Daughters are pressured by their mothers and their female peers, not by men. It's pretty common for a man to tell his girlfriend that he wouldn't mind if she stopped wearing makeup, only for her to roll her eyes and spend 2 hours in front of the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:48 PM
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I've looked harder than you, and it isn't even my argument. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:45 PM
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It's generally insecure women with double standards. You'll see that they'll often try to spin it as simply looking out for men since they can suffer from ED or loss of pair bonding, but turn it around and mention how a high N count can do the same to women and they'll all freak out and rail on you for daring to try to police women's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:33 PM
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You seemed to have suggested that women are more selective and successful killers, but I have found absolutely nothing to support this anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:28 PM
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Been looking for some as well with no success. I have found a couple of articles that show the gender differences in homicide and suicide, who go against your initial claim that: Women - They take their aggression out on specific individuals who've wronged them. It seems women actually take their aggression out on themselves much more often than men. This study examines historical trends in the relationship between homicide and suicide rates and considers the extent to which gender differences e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 07:15 PM
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Why are they stupid for doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 06:41 PM
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Female murderers often hide their killings 11+ years longer than a male killer; And are statistically still less likely to ever be caught. Do you have some stats to back this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 06:35 PM
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State what opportunities have been refused to whom, when and how. Have documentation for investigation, in two years he has not made any progress. Doesn't it look shady to you? But Google hasn't denied it at all, and it's not like their diversity programs are a secret. So what are you talking about? Legally, yes. Legally and factually aren't the same thing. I am just more poetic in general. A bit illiterate as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:29 AM
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By proof: when, how, what happened, who has been involved. What do you mean by this? Involved in what? You are, but does not mean you are right. But a court is always right? I think I have done enough. Unimpression of yours does not concern me. Are you using some online translator?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:21 AM
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Being too accommodating and too emotional doesn't equal too good. It equals being a bad partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:09 AM
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Ironically, the article I was reading mentioned how he is yet to come forward with more detailed explanations. Did you read his paper? We are not the ones to decide that, it is to be decided in court. We are not allowed an opinion? Lmao! You make this dude be a victim over how women have more advantages, while from what I can tell, the trial is still on. You present an unresolved cause as being a fact, which is misleading. What trial? You can't form an opinion based on the available information?…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:36 AM
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He released concrete examples of bias at a corporate level. He didn't publicize it either, he released it internally and anonymously because the HR asked for opinions. He got fired because of it and everyone at google just doubled down on their bias and proved him right. Where's his hypocrisy? And how am I a hypocrite just because his complaints went beyond just women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:24 PM
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Do you know the definition of "hypocritical"? Cause you keep misusing the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:18 PM
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I am dumbfounded. So you think that complaining about the company you work at is hypocritical because you can just quit? How is that hypocrisy at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 09:08 PM
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He is saying that people of his political persuasion are targeted and excluded from leadership positions. How is that being hypocritical? The rest of your post is such nonsense I have no clue what argument you're trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:31 PM
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it's not true well even if it's true SO WHAT???? Every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:30 PM
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You have twice as many female ancestors as male, and we can all see how modern polygamous societies suffer from gender imbalances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 03:02 PM
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You will not see a competent men excelling at his job complaining Was Damore really that incompetent in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 02:59 PM
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Nah, it's just the fact that he's famous and wealthy. If he worked at the local dump site and made $23k a year you wouldn't be that attracted to him, I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 02:31 PM
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She said that she had to do a full body shave every 2 days, which meant that her social activities were a bit limited as a result. She also had to apply a bit more makeup than normal to hide short hairs. I don't know what to tell you about relationships, but maybe it's your environment. If you live in some big liberal city like LA, then it might be hard since few people actually look for relationships there. Women liking tall men has nothing to do with "societal expectations" or anything like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 02:04 PM
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/pol/ hasn't really had any irl meetups. You might be referring to the pics of the people that went after Shia Labeouf during his "he will not divide us" spergout. But those weren't necessarily /pol/ posters. Although /pol/ is probably more racially diverse than antifa, which is pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:59 PM
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Yeah societies views of whats attractive need to change Why? Not that I have to prove anything but I could lose weight, fix my acne, and get laser I had a girl tell me that she suffers from heavy hirsutism which pretty much destroyed her social life. When I told her to try out a social experiment of posting her pics on the incel sub and see how many would be willing to date her, she immediately backed off and said she doesn't want THOSE men. I linked her different dating sites and dating subs, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:08 PM
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The femcel sub went private because of too many incels offering them to go on dates. I've talked to several self-identified femcels and it was always the same story of them refusing to lower their standards, not simply having no guy available to them. I wish that you really were a unicorn, but I really, really doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 10:04 AM
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got on one I’ll try a completely different one. So you got on 2 and only once each. That would be analogous to what? An N count of 2 and also 2 total sexual encounters? Not many men would have a big issue with that. Now what if you rode like 30 of them 30 times each, but then told everyone you hated it? Would that make a lot of sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:50 AM
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If you gave your ex a ring at 10 months then I should expect the same, why should I wait any longer than she did? So is this double irony or what? Cause women definitely think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:40 AM
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When did you tell me that? Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 12:59 AM
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Who are you talking to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 12:58 AM
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You said "women generally don't care", while then agreeing that they do actually care quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:17 PM
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What are you disagreeing with then? Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:02 PM
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Offset what negative? Yeah I’d rather have a baby with a homely hard worker than a sexy bum. Women that don't want children are still more attracted to wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:30 PM
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Thanks for giving me a 1st person account of the apex fallacy. The men you're referring to are the ones that can fuck beautiful women on the regular and see no reason to tie themselves to a fat ugly one. Fat ugly men would be completely fine with fat ugly woman on the other hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:46 PM
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That's not what the apex fallacy is about. Anyway, I'm sure that happens because I've seen it myself, but it's not the same. Ugly fat girls still have an easier time getting a bf than their male equivalents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:24 PM
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Then you should've learned how to back up your own arguments with evidence, and not demand that someone else do it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:22 PM
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Poor men can "help out" as well. You don't need to be rich to be a good father.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:08 PM
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Your mommy googled statistics for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:54 PM
1

Your mommy googles statistics for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:52 PM
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The burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:48 PM
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Most women suffer from apex fallacy. I think they simply ignore men they aren't attracted to and feel nothing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:36 PM
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Are you sure they don't care? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X Here, we combined images of male and female body shape with information on annual salary to elucidate the influence of economic status on the attractiveness ratings by opposite sex raters in American, Chinese and European populations. We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. These results i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:33 PM
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Women making more than men is going to be completely different than anything we've seen before. Why are you talking as if we can't see what's happening already? Women generally refuse to settle, have few if any kids which leads to an ageing population, which in turns leads to higher taxes and the retirement age being pushed back, as well as mass immigration from less than tolerant cultures who have higher crime rates. The trend exists until the original population is wiped out or absorbed into n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:25 PM
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You're the one that made the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:13 PM
1

Then present one of these stats with a good methodology. A paper that takes into account that women take more time on purpose to do certain activities like shopping, not because they have to but because they want to. And that if you walk around a supermarket for 40 minutes that isn't considered 40 minutes of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 06:00 PM
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It means you want control and dominance by having a financially dependent wife and family In what modern developed nation do you actually achieve control and dominance as the husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:39 PM
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So you know nothing about the last 400 years of Western culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:34 PM
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Yes, I'm making fun of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:26 PM
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they still had to do almost everything, they just didn’t have to fix things or get a job So "almost everything" doesn't include actually acquiring resources? LMAO!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:20 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about. What misplaced priorities would make you date people that you stated you don't want?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:51 PM
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So what is your explanation for why these women end up with men that are anything but "nice guys"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:42 PM
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So you're equating "says she wants a nice guy" with "actively seeking a nice guy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:13 PM
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I did. Where did you claim that bad boy chasers are actually not real?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 03:59 PM
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And there are plenty of people that do. I don't even know what your point is. You said in the OP that bad boy chasers exist, how are you even supposed to give an example of the counterpart to something you're now denying exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 03:55 PM
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Yeah, I was mistaken. I initially heard about this paper from another article that provided its own images and I assumed the images provided came from the paper itself. I downloaded the article's dataset but it seems they didn't add the photos in it beyond the example already showed there. So I stand corrected on that, but the paper still shows that stronger = better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 03:50 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 03:39 PM
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That doesn't mean anything. Yes, there are women that don't go for "bad boys" for whatever reason, but there are still plenty of women that do. Most of them don't really understand what they're getting into and have a very casual attitude about it. Their attitude only changes when they start worrying about marriage and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 03:30 PM
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The women that chase specifically bad boys are the ones that get off to the feeling of being dominated and to the danger. Men don't really get off to that sort of stuff except as a niche sexual fetish that is generally independent of the rest of the relationship. The women that do pose a danger to men are the emotionally unstable ones that are likely to make false accusations that ruin your life or key your car cause your mom texted you at 1 AM. The men that go after these women are rare and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 02:47 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 01:47 PM
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If women are poor selectors when approaching, then they're gonna be poor selectors when approached as well. Which means the only real difference is convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 01:38 PM
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when women approach men, they approach men who are out of their league, not really interested in them or available, or end up with men who are defectively shy passive or unassertive. none of this is in womens interest, at all. its a quick trip to pump and dump town or a miserable dead bedroom LTR/marriage So why don't women approach different men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:50 PM
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Because that complaining benefits women, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:24 PM
5

That male dominance is only ever mentioned when it benefits women, ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:03 PM
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Damn, that's fucked. A good reason why marriage is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:23 AM
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Filled me in on what? I'm saying that your claim was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:20 AM
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Ok? I’ve been burned while cooking more times than he has gotten into a physical altercation over me. Lol! It’s called the dispensation of assets. In my case, it’s transferring marital assets to another party. Is your salary considered a marital asset?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:08 PM
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You said: it’s pretty well established that women typically do more work than men in a relationship Not that "women just do more housework".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:07 PM
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Where do you think I live, a war zone? I've been in fights and getting punched hurts. Definitely hurts more than cooking. We are very careful to pay equally to avoid getting fucked in court with our ex’s That makes no sense. What would the spending you do for one another have to do with the court's decision on anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:25 PM
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The stats you're referring to take "emotional labor" into account. They're meme stats that nobody in their right minds take seriously. When you look at stats that matter, which is how many hours do men work compared to women, the average salary of the husband compared to the average wife, the average public spending of women vs men, the average house work that requires some risk you'll see that men dominate all these categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:22 PM
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You equated him putting himself in physical harm with you cooking and cleaning. You also refuse to discuss finances or to add anything up, which makes me believe that it's not in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:11 PM
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What do you base this on?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:09 PM
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Would you have agreed if he said instead that men do most of the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:42 PM
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I’m not going to keep a ledger and tick off things we do Except that's exactly what you did in the previous comment where you gave bullet points describing what you do for your bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:40 PM
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So that doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice then. Why did you add up these things as bullet points when they're so easy to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:28 PM
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You're making the claim that it's equal and your only evidence for that is the fact that you're fine with it. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:27 PM
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And that's equal in value to what you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:00 PM
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So what does he do on average to equalize your tremendous effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:49 PM
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So when you said: I do all the cooking What does that mean? That all the food he eats is cooked by you, all the food he eats at your house is cooked by you, or all the food that isn't a takeout is cooked by you? And what percentage of his laundry and dish washing is done at your house?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:47 PM
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So in terms of how many resources either of you have put into the relationship, who do you believe has put in more? I'm talking about financial resources here, and you can count your housecleaning as part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:39 PM
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So all the women you know live separate from their boyfriends but they clean their bf's apartments? What country do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:29 PM
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I see. Does he ever give you anything? If you go on dates, do you usually split the bill? Does he get you stuff for Christmas?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:28 PM
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Did you just break housework into into 3 different bullet points and getting him gifts for Christmas as its own extra effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 08:18 PM
2

Finding a social media account is easy cause you already have their irl info. If you never post your info then you aren't doxxable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 10:13 PM
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Alright, but why are her examples about 3 guys that rejected her then? Is she equating a guy rejecting her with a guy never approaching her at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 10:12 PM
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You gave out your personal details on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 10:10 PM
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Watch out for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:29 PM
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Who's she? The poster I replied to specifically said "jacked bodies", and the body in that study that was considered the most attractive definitely fits my definition of "jacked".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:25 PM
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Men get upset when they're called shy? Is that what you're trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 07:10 PM
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I don't even understand what you're trying to say. What do men find offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:49 PM
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Same reason why every woman that posts on PPD is a unicorn and no statistics ever describe her and in fact she's the opposite of every known trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:34 PM
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Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:31 PM
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No, it wasn't. Their husband's vote wasn't their vote and women didn't achieve the right to vote by marrying. You could apply this exact logic and say that the father's vote is his daughter's vote and eliminate marriage from the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:26 PM
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So women with a husband could vote? How exactly did they achieve that right through marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:22 PM
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It isn't really the same. There's a pretty big correlation between drug abuse, depression, etc. and high n count in women, while there isn't one in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:22 PM
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That makes no sense. If their husband was the cause, then unmarried women would've had the right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:14 PM
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The sacrifices they made were for kids, not their husbands. Women today make the same sacrifices, so your argument is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:09 PM
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I think when men say "Society lied to me" they often mean "My mother lied to me". No, they mean society at large. Few people tell you to be dominant and have money to get women; they tell you to be "nice" and other shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:04 PM
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He never had to do shit but have a job to get a woman. As opposed to what? Women only needing a vagina to get a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 06:02 PM
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The post I replied to said: Girls are less attracted then you think to jacked bodies. Anything that looks artificial is a huge red flag for a smart woman. I provided a study that showed the most attractive bodies are actually jacked bodies. I don't know where you took the "hot faces > jacked bodies" conversation from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 01:06 PM
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Bro, WHAT ADVICE THAT YOU'VE SEEN ON FDS ARE YOU GONNA IMPLEMENT? I cannot be clearer than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 01:01 PM
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According to the 1870 US census, women made 15% of the total work force. According to " An injury to all : the decline of American Unionism", in the 1950's roughly 32% of women were employed. According to the US gov, from 1950 to 1990, the employment rate went from 30-35% to 60%. A bigger impact than even WW2 and WW1 had on female participation. That was the growth I was referring to. The baby boomer shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:29 PM
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You've lost me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:08 PM
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I'm not going to repeat myself. You've never stated it. Yes, fringe minority cases exist. You can find virtually any niche on the internet. So you're saying that only a niche minority of women participate in casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:05 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? I'm just asking what advice you're gonna implement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 08:04 PM
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How many women worked outside the home during WW1 and the industrial revolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:22 PM
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Why are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:45 PM
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Alright then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:29 PM
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Why are you using the industrial revolution or WW1 to determine labor participation? Seems beyond disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:01 PM
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They say often “she’s not yours it’s just your turn” That's quoting literal feminist rhetoric. They tell you to accept it and not try to go against the flow, how are they wrong to do that? From FDS I realize this is unhealthy. Why? FDS tells you to do the exact same thing to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:57 PM
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Tell me exactly what you're gonna implement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:55 PM
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I've been able to only find rough estimates or articles without sources, but they all claim that life expectancy increased throughout the 1700's. And then I provided a link. You respond by telling me my link "starts in the 19th century" when it says: Things improved in the 18th century in Britain. Life expectancy at birth rose to about 40 by the late 18th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:54 PM
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I don't know what you mean. When does TRP tell you to accept low effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:48 PM
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I must be retarded cause I don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:48 PM
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The entire sub provides the "wisdom" of a random feminist blogpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:47 PM
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I think you're gonna get filtered if you spam me again with your bullshit. If I ask you a simple question and you have to weasel around it, then the conversation serves no purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:46 PM
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Alright. Good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:45 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ... You never stop, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:45 PM
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I refuse to respond further cause you didn't even finish reading my post before you replied.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:44 PM
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The end result is different because you can actually debate TRP on their own sub. Just cause you're too sensitive to want that is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:43 PM
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I'm saying I doubt you actually did. What advice did you get from FDS that you believe TRP couldn't have given you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:37 PM
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False equivalence. A sub that doesn't ban you for your sex isn't the same as a sub that does, no matter how hard you struggle to spin it like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:36 PM
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the most upvoted comment on the first post states that men that disagree with women aren't good in bed 2nd most upvoted comment on the 2nd post is about how women laugh at "pathetic men"; also the entire post is nothing but a humblebrag about how women are too kind and good natured 3rd post is about putting off sex for long enough to apparently trap a guy in a relationship, while also bragging about how "You are not a dime in a dozen. You are not another Becky notch in his bedpost. You ARE dream…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:32 PM
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I'm sure. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:21 PM
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You're strawmanning. Nobody is saying that you only need to be physically fit to get tons of women and that you can't get women otherwise. The argument a lot of women make is that they aren't attracted to muscular bodies, or that they prefer lither bodies, or that too much muscle is gross. It seems every stat done on the matter disagrees with these women since most women apparently find the strongest bodies the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:21 PM
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I checked the new tab on TRP and it's pretty different. Practically no twitter screenshots, no thread about reassuring one another and saying how they dislike women, and I've even seen a few scientific articles being posted. It's like night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:18 PM
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I disagree. Also, I take it back. There are only 2 seek advice posts, since the 3rd one is about joining another sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:16 PM
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I think it's the we end the convo. We clearly don't agree and you aren't even making any argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:15 PM
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Read what? The sub? I have and I don't see the allure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:09 PM
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If you sort it by new posts, in the last 25 posts you'll find only 3 that are tagged with "seek advice".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:09 PM
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And yet, TRP is filled with stats and links to scientific articles. FDS is a skeleton town compared to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:07 PM
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I don't know, it seems like a clear improvement. https://images.theconversation.com/files/196209/original/file-20171123-18012-5q9bkl.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip I've been able to only find rough estimates or articles without sources, but they all claim that life expectancy increased throughout the 1700's. http://www.localhistories.org/life.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:05 PM
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I don't care if they want to create a hugbox or a circlejerk, they can do that all they want. We were arguing however about how the sub is a healthy environment for women where tons of healthy discussion takes place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:02 PM
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You're sure based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:01 PM
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And tons of whining. I see actually very little proper advice on that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:00 PM
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Why? Plenty of people disagree on TRP, and it's not against the rules to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:59 PM
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If you mean "fit" as in actually actually having muscle mass and an athletic level of body fat I disagree. That level of fitness takes a lot of work and I don't think it's fair to expect a woman who has children and/or works full time to be able to dedicate that much time to the gym. It's pretty easy for women actually. You need a body fat percentage of 15-20% to be considered a female athlete. It's mostly cardio that you have to do anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:58 PM
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Cause it's an echo chamber. They yell at the wall and all they hear is an echo, which amplifies their thoughts. If they actually cared about holding conversations with men then they'd visit a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:28 PM
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That's healthy? It's an entire thread where women just complain about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:11 PM
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Can you link to some healthy posts like that? Cause from what I skimmed through 95% is just posting quotes or twitter posts and then complaining about men, and 5% just having "u go girl" type posts that lead nowhere. They even have their own derogatory name for men, "scrote", the same incels do with "roastie".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:04 PM
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Then why are you equating it with the TRP when they allow women to contribute?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 12:42 PM
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How else are you supposed to test women's body preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 12:42 PM
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Seems false. https://www.thehealthy.com/sex/male-body-most-attractive-to-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:58 AM
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They're getting married less because of economic factors, not really ideological. The average 22 yo man in the 1950's could sustain a family on his own salary, the average 22 yo man today can't even sustain himself all that well. Factors which were exacerbated by feminism, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:56 AM
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Sex Positive Culture and Egalitarian Marriages. The average man now has less sex than the average man in the 1950's, and modern marriages are anything but egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:09 AM
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The sidebar states that only posts that benefit women are allowed and that men are banned from even commenting. It's not equivalent to TRP since TRP doesn't ban women from posting and it's genuinely about giving advice, not about whining. A sub like r/whereareallthegoodmen is more similar to FDS because that sub is also controlled by ban happy mods that don't want any discussion to take place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 06:39 AM
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They like it because they have a weak ego Yeah, the overwhelming majority of women do, regardless of their value. The average wealthy woman still prefers a wealthier man than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 06:34 AM
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Isn't a big portion of the sub about how to best lie so you can financially trap guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 06:16 AM
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High value women are self-reliant and don't need anybody to buy them food. They still like it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 06:14 AM
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My dick's huge so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 05:58 AM
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Men who will pump and dump ugly women will treat them worse than attractive women How so? Women who enjoy casual sex only like it when the guy sees humanity in her. I can name you several subs on this website filled with women that love to be treated like whores and brag about all the men they fuck casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:56 AM
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The findings, which are part of a broader study of judicial behavior, revealed that the judges were just as likely as laypeople to discriminate - in ways that harmed both men and women - in decisions involving CHILD CUSTODY or workplace discrimination cases related to family caregiving duties. You could've at least read the abstract, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:54 AM
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Any search keys I should use in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:53 AM
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Google is your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:53 AM
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How is it unrelated?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 10:29 PM
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Nonsense, the courts are known to be biased. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180419141541.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 09:10 PM
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Is it about stepping up, or simply favoritism in court rulings?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 07:02 PM
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The 10% of primary caregiver single parents who are fathers are the top 10% of single fathers. So the entire population of single fathers represent the top 10% of their own population?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:44 PM
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An attractive man who will treat an ugly woman like a sperm recepticle is not an attractive man to her. There seems to be a concrete wall in your mind that blocks this point over and over. Maybe the fact that not every woman wants to have a LTR with every man that comes her way. Every wine aunt on this sub keeps repeating this over and over again, that women enjoy casual sex the same as men and there's nothing wrong with that. Now you're saying women are casual sex adverse and view it as an unat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:43 PM
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You first lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:52 PM
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Strange, cause the average lifespan increased. The life expectancy of children more than doubled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 04:23 PM
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Enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 04:21 PM
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Remove the word "too" and your claim would be accurate. Women are there to bang (but more often date) interesting men who see them beyond their orifices. Unfortunately for ugly women, such a man is a mythical creature. Ugly women can bang attractive men but can't get dates from them, ugly men cannot bang attractive women or get dates from them. On what planet do ugly women therefore have it worse? Ugly people get treated worse. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 04:20 PM
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And why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 04:18 PM
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It's your argument that repulsion is a sign of insecurity. You either backtrack or admit to being wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 04:18 PM
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Apparently you aren't, seeing as how you think only insecure people are repulsed by transsexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 04:03 PM
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TRP doesn't say much about homosexuality. It's just men that behave in a homophobic manner in their natural state because homosexuality is a mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 04:01 PM
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or if he finds out a woman he finds attractive is transgender. If you suck a feminine penis then you're still straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 03:59 PM
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The OP specifically states "male porn addiction". That's what I was referring to, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 02:32 PM
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I'm interested in why a woman would even care about porn addiction. Unless you're in a relationship with a guy that's addicted, then why are you even bothered by it? Women on this sub always act in a very Darwinian manner about everything, so why is this an exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 01:37 PM
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I don't care either way. It doesn't change my argument at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 11:37 AM
1

That's hilarious. So you think WW1 was the factor that pushed them to work, and not the industrial revolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 11:36 AM
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Because Odin knew he couldn't prevent it. It's also implied that Odin just wanted a good fight, and didn't care about saving the world anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 11:35 AM
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Do you have any evidence to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 11:33 AM
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Sinn Féin existed way before the IRA did, and the fact that the IRA shares members with DUP is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 05:43 PM
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They were in Valhalla because of Odin's selfishness and his desire to fight in Ragnarok and to drag everyone else with him, but the warriors were fighting for pleasure, not for training or necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 05:38 PM
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gradualist reformist approach Alright, and? If you're capitalist society on your way to becoming socialist, you are still a capitalist society. When you finalize the transition then you can talk. Considering there has been full on civil war driven by these parties The IRA wasn't a political party.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 04:38 PM
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Why are you forming your view on men based on a clip from TyT? Everyone knows they're shitheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 02:03 PM
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TyT is the last place to go for if you want empathy, and they aren't really a good representative sample of the population. The reason men are harsher with one another is because they have to be. No society can survive without men displaying strength and masculinity and so that's the advice they give you. With that in mind, I really don't know of women that truly help/save one another. I've never heard of a woman jumping in the water to save one of her male friends, or making any sacrifice like …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 10:16 AM
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What nonsense are you speaking now? None of the countries you listed are socialist countries, they're all capitalist. So why are you using them as a successful example of socialism? Women can be nationalists if they use it to get social attention or influence, they aren't nationalistic because they genuinely believe in it. The UK nationalistic parties are a joke, and the female membership is meaningless as it didn't even get there based on merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 10:03 AM
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After you just got done saying that you don't know much about the Norse mythos you're now preaching to me about why they were fighting. Aren't you tired of getting schooled on the subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 10:00 AM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 09:58 AM
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I was mostly referring to the: They joined the workforce in large number during WW2 because they had to and they'd learned that they could do the jobs men did and earn a good wage The reason they joined the workforce en masse was because there was a societal push to get them to work in order to double the workforce and lower the salaries, it had nothing to do with some epiphany that the average woman had. And if you wanna get so technical with the term "workforce" then edit your previous comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 09:58 AM
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Being able to bang boring, thirsty dudes Yes? Men are there to bang boring, thirsty women too. who will treat you worse than most other women What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 12:10 AM
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Correct, but it doesn't change that their version of heaven was about fighting all day long. It fits pretty well with Norse culture that believed dying in battle was pretty much necessary. So how do you explain that? Did they suffer from some sort of PTSD that damaged them in such a way to deny their intrinsic pacifism?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:57 PM
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And also about fighting. "The heroes all | in Othin's hall Each day to fight go forth; They fell each other, | and fare from the fight All healed full soon to sit." The Poetic Edda. Vafþrúðnismál, stanza 41
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:53 PM
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The Norse are probably the most famous, but several other cultures had the same idea of heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:47 PM
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How fatalistic. You really can't understand that men fought because they wanted to, huh? I guess all the warrior cultures who imagined heaven as nothing but more fighting and war must seem as a coping mechanism to you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:39 PM
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That's a pretty nice rewriting of history. You should work for the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:33 PM
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It's more likely than 1/3 of all men simply accepting their miserable lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:32 PM
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I'm East European.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:31 PM
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I think the numbers are pretty high right now. About 30% of men are in that sort of position and the numbers are rising. This is definitely not stable and shit's gonna blow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:57 PM
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I honestly forgot what we were even arguing about. So whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:56 PM
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I wouldn't know from experience, but I do read some news and can get some stats. So I doubt that the place you live in is so conservative that most of the girls you know wait till marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:34 PM
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So the government owns the means of production?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:29 PM
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I'm not an incel and I don't want advice on women from you anyway. I just wanted to hear your opinion and apparently it's to shrug your shoulders and tell them to walk it off. Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:28 PM
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I understand what you're going for, but your argument is still nonsensical. You are using "gangsters, thugs, hustlers" as examples of poor people, when they're probably the wealthiest people in their environments. The rest of the list is very vague. Like what's an "athlete"? I ran a marathon once, so do I qualify? What about a biker? If I have a bike am I a biker, or do I need to have a patch on my leather vest? Your list is shit and you make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:27 PM
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This is a joke list. I can't take you seriously. Gangsters and thugs have talent? Only certain academics have social status but most comedians do? Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:18 PM
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Because they have social status, masculinity, charm, talent or any other number of variables that make them ‘winners’. What man do you know that has social status, masculinity, charm and talent but they're poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:11 PM
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I find it impossible to believe that the average guy would put in this sort of work on themselves, never mind an incel with truly bad beliefs about life and themselves. That's what you said before. Now you're acting like some coach from some football B movie where his motivational speeches will make his team win.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:08 PM
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They were different societies of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:07 PM
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So what's your plan then? Should they just get assisted suicide or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 09:25 PM
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Scandinavian countries are capitalist liberal economies who only have some socialist stuff mixed in. And also by Scandinavian countries you mean Norway and Denmark, cause Sweden ain't doing so well these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 09:23 PM
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Over 99% of men used to be married and got to experience at least some form of intimacy and connection with a woman at an emotional level not even a century ago. What type of dystopia are you in favor of where you think this should be some unattainable privilege and men should just get over it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 09:06 PM
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A country is a form of society, yes. Just cause Athens and Sparta were different city states with different cultures that doesn't mean they weren't societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 09:04 PM
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Socialist countries never abide by tolerant or progressive values.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 08:36 PM
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How would that affect the averages?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 08:33 PM
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Doubtful. Servitude and slavery always existed, as well as simply changing sides and fighting for a foreign army.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 08:30 PM
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Depends on what country you live in, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 08:29 PM
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I find that hard to believe, since most big wars throughout history saw a big percentage of all men die, let alone fighting age men. Some of those men that died surely were civilians, but demographics ensured that most old communities weaponized practically most able-bodied young men for war.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 08:28 PM
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Bending over, like the women did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 08:26 PM
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society = the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community; an organization or club formed for a particular purpose or activity. If the people forming society are doing badly, then society is as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 08:26 PM
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So what are you confused about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 07:12 PM
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That's fine if you realize that you're a small minority, at least in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 07:12 PM
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How many men decided to fight for what was theirs throughout history, and how many women? I don't need exact numbers of course, I just want you to compare the 2 groups in size.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 07:07 PM
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No, it's neoliberal. Socialism, at least the real socialism that was practiced in Eastern Europe was never about any of this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 07:04 PM
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Things like HDI, crime rates, happiness rates, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 07:03 PM
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Well-educated on what? What education do you need to go to a gala? Cause I've been to several and nobody ever asked me play 20 questions or else they kick me out. And I don't believe hookers can ever be high value, regardless of the space they occupy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 07:02 PM
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They struggle to fill jobs cause Scotland has a small birthrate fueled by their neoliberal values.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:50 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:48 PM
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It doesn't really seem that women value trust or intimacy that much until they get too old and start worrying about kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:47 PM
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National sovereignty cannot exist if you don't even recognize borders. I don't care how many people in the SNP disagree, I can go on the SNP website right now and see what their plans for the future are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:45 PM
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I explained myself already, you just refused to counter any of my arguments and you're now playing by school ground rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:34 PM
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They are especially when it comes to borders. You can't say you're a strong nationalist party but be in favor of open borders like the SNP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:33 PM
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Argumentum ad Populum
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:31 PM
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As opposed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:30 PM
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nationalist Lmao! They're neoliberal to hell and back and only want European money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:27 PM
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And I'm telling you that you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:18 PM
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It was praise then? You are a strong believer in Manifest Destiny and killing people on the Trail of Tears?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:18 PM
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I thought you said you weren't critiquing western civilization and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:09 PM
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I looked it up and that isn't true. It seems kids raised by single fathers generally do better in life than kids raised by single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:08 PM
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They'd think - and even ask! - if I had any friends who were as pretty and entertaining and smart as me that I could introduce them to. But this is what everyone says. You can't lack social skills to such an extent that you believe basic flattery is some high praise of your mental skills. I was invited because no one would look at and interact with me and think, "I can't believe the CFO brought a hooker to this work function" They didn't think that because they did it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:07 PM
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I have looked this up and I haven't seen any evidence that doctors can diagnose fetuses with down syndrome with such certitude as you seem to be implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:05 PM
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I have never seen or heard of a woman that genuinely didn't want to be desired. It seems these women only exist on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:03 PM
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I never said you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:03 PM
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Well it's pretty sad if English is yours and you still don't understand. Why are you equating gold diggers with people that successfully climb outside of their own socioeconomic class? And that isn't true either, because tons of dumb people get hitched or can simply get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 06:02 PM
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Alright, let me give you another: pretty much every country throughout human history, including all of the nations, empires and city states that built Western civilization and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:55 PM
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Being highly materialistic isn't a sign of intelligence. And you're implying that gold diggers and successful gold diggers are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:53 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:52 PM
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So kinda like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:51 PM
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It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:46 PM
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History proves you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:46 PM
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She's raising the kid on other people's dimes and she isn't doing a very good job of it either, since one of the biggest factors in predicting the chances that someone will grow up poor and/or criminal is if they were raised by a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:44 PM
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This question would be more fit for a man, not just people that post on PPD. You'll find that women generally don't care about much and very few have any patriotic, nationalistic, etc. thought in their heads. As long as they have a good life they really don't care about the future nor what it holds for other people. But since I'm a man I guess I'll want to increase the chances of society surviving in the long term and promote cultural/social norms that will increase the chances of that happening…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:41 PM
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It's generally good to be desired rather than not be desired. What are you even arguing for at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:36 PM
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She doesn't take responsibility, the government does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:18 PM
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So you think women that have down syndrome kids planned for their kids to be down syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:17 PM
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It's better to have casual sex and no relationships than to have neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:16 PM
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No, this is just science. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322128430_Different_impacts_of_resources_on_opposite_sex_ratings_of_physical_attractiveness_by_males_and_females By your definition then all women are gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:15 PM
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A match? Are you referring to OLD? Tinder? Again, how many of those matches want to treat her like a normal human being? Only women can turn sexual success into a curse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 04:19 PM
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Judging from those OLD stats, ugly women get way more messages than even handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 04:16 PM
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Why can't a woman just do great things and be appreciated for that? Why can't a lioness lead the pride and have a harem of lions? Same reason, sexual selection doesn't favor that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 04:15 PM
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The assumption she made was that she was invited to high class parties because she was educated and smart, and not because she was young and pretty. No man shows off their ugly and clever female partners, but they all show off their pretty young toys. If you think "high class" equals "high culture" or "high intelligence" then you're mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 02:52 PM
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The industrial revolution did increase the standard of living, regardless of the deplorable factory conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 02:50 PM
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Women joined the workforce BECAUSE the quality of life improved, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 02:33 PM
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As opposed to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 02:28 PM
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a woman that sells her body claims that her body isn't the most important thing Sounds like a coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:50 PM
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In such a world the global birthrate will be like 1.1 per woman, more than half the world's population will be pensioners and the few working women will pay 80% income tax and live in trailers to support the burden of all the old people. I definitely think those women will sell themselves for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:45 PM
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Alright then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:32 PM
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A different perspective? Do you never talk to people that read the same books as you about what you've read and what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:18 PM
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Why? It would take just a sentence. Give the name of a female character and tell me what makes her great in your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:14 PM
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You don't understand what a gold digger is. All women desire money and judge men by their potential for resources, so if you wanna get technical then all women fit the definition. However, there's a specific stereotype of a "gold digger" that implies a dumb girl who usually plays the game all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:13 PM
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Then I'll take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:11 PM
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I've read them and I don't know what's so good about them. Maybe you can give some specific example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:10 PM
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Yes, they are. The stereotype of a gold digger isn't some 190 IQ mastermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 01:06 PM
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I've read these books (except the first one) and I'm having a hard time thinking of a good female character in any of them. I guess it's all subjective in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 12:55 PM
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no one wants to date an attractive retard. Bimbos and gold diggers are an archetype for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:30 AM
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that's why you see so many really good female characters in books Really? Which books?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 11:28 AM
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The capability to abort doesn't nullify the increased chance of down syndrome. That doesn't even make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:24 AM
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You should stop picking men that abandon you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 10:23 AM
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Getting a job through affirmative action is like working out with steroids. It's not very impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:52 PM
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I wish you did, because that would greatly decrease the rates of single motherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:23 PM
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I don't see how that's possible. Apparently 70% of men 20-34 yo are unmarried. So unless women practice polygamy then most of them have to be unmarried too. https://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:22 PM
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It literally does mean an increased rate of down syndrome. The fact that women can terminate the pregnancy is meaningless, seeing as how the rates of children born with down syndrome have increased by quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:21 PM
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I don't know about that. You definitely hear success stories from groups like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:19 PM
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That means nothing when it comes to their sexual selection process. I'm sure the average girl in Iowa would fuck a rich actor if given the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:51 PM
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What difference does that make?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:50 PM
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That still proves you wrong, though. It's not men that push for marriage and kids, it's women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:49 PM
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Generally it's women that want kids with men not wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:32 PM
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Hmmm... https://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news/20091130/increase-in-babies-born-with-down-syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:31 PM
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Not if he’s a piece of shit, or ugly, or a misogynist. So why do all the rich celebrities that are known for being ugly, misogynistic pieces of shit get tons of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:29 PM
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it's totally different cause I say so
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:04 PM
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Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:30 PM
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You can't even name the country and you expect me to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:26 PM
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The paper stated that the fiscal impact differs by gender because: men's earnings are higher than women's earnings; women live longer and then collect superannuation over a longer period; and, health care costs are higher for women. This applies to the US as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:25 PM
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Then I know you're lying already.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:17 PM
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The former tend to be on the same subs, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:17 PM
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Nobody said anything about 100%, but it doesn't seem to be even 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:16 PM
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That's pretty funny, I gotta say. Where is "here", by the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:01 PM
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Seems like they're not giving people what they want then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 01:00 PM
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Lol ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:53 PM
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But single mothers are a major source of the next generation not growing up as well. Literally every statistic on the matter agrees that growing up in a broken home or being raised by a single mother is a great predictor of crime, poverty, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:52 PM
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This is nonsensical. Your point was that people want more people and so they pander to single mothers, then you said that they actually support policies that decrease the birthrate because they don't want that many people, now you're saying that it makes no difference either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:51 PM
1

Then why have happiness rates dropped so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:50 PM
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Because the happy people either can't relate to the problems and therefore offer no solution, or their solutions are vague nonsense like "just be yourself bro" that gets people nowhere. The people that frequent those subs have already listened to this advice their whole life, and have gotten to a point where they prefer brutal honesty to comforting lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:49 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:46 PM
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The latter would be more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:46 PM
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How would a low birthrate make them more likely to be elected?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:45 PM
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If you don't have consumers then the economy collapses. And obviously fewer people means fewer producers as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:44 PM
1

What trick?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:43 PM
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I'm 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:44 AM
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At the cost of fewer consumers and more pensioners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:43 AM
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And why would the powers that be support such a thing? That's the point I was arguing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:43 AM
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Are you joking? This is basic history. It's been a popular idea since the early 1800's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:42 AM
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Then how come the birthrates were higher when single mothers were the small minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:32 AM
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Women as a demographic take more from the government than they produce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:31 AM
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You asked for evidence and then you demanded to be spoonfed the evidence. Not in the mood for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:30 AM
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I have no clue what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:20 AM
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Yeah, same. If they wanted more people then why wouldn't they support policies to increase the birthrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:19 AM
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Then why do they support policies that decrease the birthrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:01 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:42 AM
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????????
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:42 AM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:37 AM
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Then we disagree. Since you don't want to defend yourself or even explain yourself, then the argument is over, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:36 AM
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Yes, every society is based on a hierarchy where powerful and wealthy people are at the top, what does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:35 AM
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Care about what? There are more women than men in total, what does that have to do with what men care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:34 AM
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Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:32 AM
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You said you don't care unless it affects you, now you're saying you don't care even if it does affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:31 AM
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The majority of the voter base is female, so how on Earth is this some counter argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:31 AM
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Then that is your personal opinion based on individual ideology. Your individualist libertarian mindset doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:29 AM
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Pedantry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:28 AM
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That's disingenuous, because the government is still not the final authority on the matter. Women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:25 AM
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You and your friends don't pay taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:24 AM
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This is true. I stand corrected. Only some countries allow unrestricted abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:23 AM
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I didn't realize you and your loved ones lived on the Moon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:15 AM
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Not in most of the developed world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:11 AM
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bro the government just funds itself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:10 AM
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You don't even know what inflation is, and you presume to teach me about economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:00 AM
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btw unborn children will make no contribution to society ever Of course they won't if you kill them before they're born. But you said: because both men and women of the current generation are dependent on the next generation... children So I thought you might care a little bit more about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:53 AM
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No, abortion rights don't mean women have all the rights and pointing to that the way you just did is a child's argument, based in your subjective evaluation of the value of the right to abortion over all other considerations including a father's rights once a child is born. They just have the right over life and death, they can reject their maternal responsibilities and when they don't they win 95% of all court cases against the father of the child. Dude, taxes do not fund governments that prin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:51 AM
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In the US it was 20-22 until the 1990's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:40 AM
1

Can the state stop you from having an abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:33 AM
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They do have all the rights. They can have an abortion for w/e reason without your say in it, they can abandon their maternal responsibility while you can't abandon your paternal one, etc. And you just read how economics actually works on a national scale with regard to governments as opposed to corporations. Bro, taxes fund the government. Your circular reasoning of "governments push spending and issue a currency therefore governments fund themselves" is a fucking joke of an argument. What do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:29 AM
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Then the state should have the final say on children, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:27 AM
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So basically you're putting all the blame of single motherhood on mothers who have kids rather than the fathers who don't stick around to raise them or contribute to their children's lives. Yes? Since women have all the rights over children, why shouldn't they have all the responsibility? And at the same time you're making the mistake of thinking that taxes are actually what fund the government. Hint: the government issues money so rather than taxes funding the government, government spending en…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:06 AM
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I think women that have down syndrome kids and/or raise teenagers in their 40's might disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:25 AM
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It's a popular analogy with the modern times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:24 AM
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Yes, cause as we all know women hate being paired up with wealthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:23 AM
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If compatibility was just as important or even more important then you'd have to see this pattern happen in the dating world. But the pattern you see is that wealthy, powerful and handsome men have extreme success, despite their personalities or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:20 AM
1

And yet you still have a net negative fiscal impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:19 AM
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What is this supposed to mean? What's your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:18 AM
0

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Even in Muslim countries if the man cheated on you then he'd be publicly executed. And if the man cheated on you in any Western country then it was legal for you to divorce him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:17 AM
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It was also the average age of marriage in the US until the 1990's. https://www.infoplease.com/us/marital-status/median-age-first-marriage-1890-2010
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:15 AM
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And affirmative action and welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:13 AM
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You know, if you took the time to read just the first 2 pages you wouldn't have to spam these annoying questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 08:12 AM
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Well, that's weird. Guys usually refuse exclusivity because they want to spin plates and get as much sex as possible, so for you to notice a consistent pattern of men rejecting you but crawling back and offering exclusivity seems to be a statistical anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 05:03 PM
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Let me clarify then: women don't need to marry a man to be provided for since the government takes care of them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:50 PM
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Well, it's a good thing that men now subsidize women's existence through taxes than directly by marrying them so that women can feel less forced to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:47 PM
2

But do they offer exclusivity, or do they just want to fuck again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:43 PM
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I feel this personal anecdote is extremely biased in your favor. How exactly are they begging for you back when they never had you in the first place because they refused to have a relationship with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:29 PM
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A good man who's bad, or a bad man who's good. Who's better?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:15 PM
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The law didn't force you to choose anyone, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:12 PM
1

How is he wrong though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:09 PM
1

That's a fundamentally different thing. Some might say that a lifelong partnership was more romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:32 PM
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Ah, so you dropped the entire "sexually unsuccessful" half of your argument. Fat women are romantically unsuccessful. Most American women are fat and that isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:31 PM
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In what society are female virgins mocked but male virgins praised? Any past or present example would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:22 PM
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So now you're saying that people's romanticism was affected by no-fault divorces?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:19 PM
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So poor people are now more romantic than rich people, even if they have a higher divorce rate? Compared to a demographic that the study itself admitted had an uniquely high divorce rate, the baby boomers. Not compared to any generation previous to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:50 PM
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How does that link disprove my claim? It doesn't deny that marriage rates are dropping and that there are fewer people being married today than 40 years ago. It says right in the abstract: The United States is progressing toward a system in which marriage is rarer What do you mean? Marriage is more likely to be stable for upper class people than working class people. So your argument must be that rich people are more romantic than poor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:45 PM
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Then tell OP how wrong they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:42 PM
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I was just combating OP's claims that our "elders" somehow give us sage advice that totally explains why women should whore around as much as they want. You don't have to strawman and whine so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:36 PM
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Because marriage rates have been dropping. Not because more people overall stay married. Nonsense. Rich people are more likely to get married and stay married, if your romanticism is divided by socio-economic class, then it isn't romantic at all. It's just pragmatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:34 PM
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Modern people are much, much more romantic and idealistic about marriage than our forebears. Hahaha! No, the only difference is that women don't need a provider as much because the government takes care of them. If people's romanticism was that high then the divorce rate wouldn't be so high and marriage rate wouldn't be so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:28 PM
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Those gatekeepers selected men based on the exact same thing women in their 30's select them on. It was a way to bypass a woman's immaturity and their naive preferences for things that don't work out long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:26 PM
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Im not reading a 38 page document. Give me the tl;dr. OECD countries make tons of effort (worth billions of dollars) to create female-only programs so that women get more money and socio-political power. Source please https://www.irs.gov/about-irs/equity-diversity-and-inclusion-at-irs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:23 PM
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In this context, the chicken and the egg are the exact same thing, who came before is a nonsensical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 02:19 PM
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Good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:57 PM
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What are you talking about? I'm saying women often disparage and insult men based on their perceived lack of sexual success, this happens even on the internet where women generally don't know if someone is a virgin anyway. We care about wanting to date men who are attractive and charismatic to us. Those men aren't at the bottom of the male hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:56 PM
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I work on several. Like? My husband works with a mentoring program for at risk boys. I used to sit on the board of a men’s health organization. I just told you that the exception is dealing with diseases that mostly boys suffer from. If you take government money, you have to have to be an EOE. That is not the same as quotas. Companies who have quotas have done so voluntarily. Except the government gives tax benefits to companies that are diverse enough. At least they do in the US, UK and a bunch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:54 PM
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Unlike nowadays? LOL! And people cheated a lot less because they didn't have modern medicine and birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:28 PM
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Then rich men must have extremely popular interests and values cause I don't know any that struggle with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:24 PM
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Even on the internet this isn't true. Women go after the virgin insult 9/10 times. I’ve said this before but these guys struggle with their masculinity and their place on the male hierarchy more than they struggle with women. How are these 2 different things? Women pick men based on their masculinity and position in the male hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:23 PM
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Why not? Women always cared about money and protection and took that into account when they got married, modern women in their 30's take the exact same things into account, with the downside that if they have children then they're more likely to suffer from diseases and they'll be in their 40's while raising a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:07 PM
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Lmao! Bro, almost all women throughout history got married before they reached the age of 22. This modern "I'll fuck throughout my 20's to "find myself" is a purely modern invention. However, I think you could also have found this mentality being prevalent in the Roman Empire towards its end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:48 PM
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I cannot really name you any "male only" funding project or business, or any charity designed purely for men(outside of anatomical causes like diseases that only affect men), but I can name several for women. There's also affirmative action and gender quotas enforced at almost every level of society. There was also the "White House Office for Women's Initiatives and Outreach" followed by "White House Council on Women and Girls". I remember the story of MRA's trying to get a similar council made …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 12:42 PM
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No one is saying men can't also use the word. And even if they did, you're free to ignore them. People shit on feminists all the time, they just keep doing their thing anyway. You can too. The difference being that MRA's are constantly reviled whereas feminists are subsidized by the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 11:51 AM
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You've answered your own question. They call it benevolent because it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 11:49 AM
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What are you basing this on?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 11:29 AM
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So you're just shitposting?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 11:17 AM
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You seemed to have implied that they want marriage for survival reasons, as if women that don't get married risk death.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 07:36 PM
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It cannot reverse things because even a small immigration rate would turn Sweden into a Swedish minority country in less than 50 years due to the differences in birthrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 07:15 PM
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Who's going around killing unmarried women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 07:06 PM
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Even if all asylum applications right now were denied, the trend still couldn't be reversed. Their immigration rates are still extremely large for such a small country(population wise).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 07:00 PM
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How many of those commenters are Swedish women? Cause that's meaningless otherwise. Women changing their minds slowly is also meaningless. In 20-30 years Sweden is probably gonna be ethnic Swedish minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 06:56 PM
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They attempted that as well, but women are still against it. Remember that story of some Afghan migrant that was being deported because he was a serial rapist or something, and then that Swedish woman started crying on the plane until they couldn't take off anymore and they had to abandon his deportation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:54 PM
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But it's the Swedish women that vote for parties that allow those men in. And they also vote for people that don't deport them. The parties that want to restrict immigration and deport criminals are overwhelmingly male.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:34 PM
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Some people argue that the reason why there's so many more rapes is because women are simply more confident to report them and/or that the law is now more loose on what it considers to be rape in the first place. Both arguments have some merit, but none of them really explain the increase. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape It seems there are more reports because there are more cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:24 PM
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Why has women's political, social and economic uplifting correlated with an increase in rape cases then? You'd think that since Swedish women are so much more powerful it would be easier for them to fend off the dangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:15 PM
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Damn! So you'd prefer rape than losing the rights to vote? That's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:12 PM
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And I mentioned it, so how did it confuse you? Seriously, lol! You think rape rates would be lower if women had less rights? I think that's undeniable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:08 PM
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What are you referring to? Rome again? Yes? How did that confuse you at all? How would stripping away rights from women make society more stable? I was mostly referring to the rape rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:05 PM
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It seems the only rights they didn't have was to join the military and run for public office, but this doesn't make them equal to slaves at all. So if we turn back the clock and rescind a whole bunch of women’s rights I don’t see how that would benefit women? Societal stability benefits men and women. I'm sure the average Swedish woman would've preferred life in 1980's Sweden than modern Sweden.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:56 PM
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The rights I listed to you before didn't just apply to rich women. They applied to all Roman citizens. I highly doubt that. I don’t see how being stripped of rights is good for women. There is no society in human history that gave women no rights whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:38 PM
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I checked your username and I realized what a mistake I made by replying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:37 PM
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No, I think it's good for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:30 PM
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I was talking about the AVERAGE, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:30 PM
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You can't even bring yourself to say that the average free woman had it better than the average slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:19 PM
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I'm confused what you're complaining about. Awkward syntax or grammar mistakes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:18 PM
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But I was right about all of those things. You fucking said that women were so oppressed that being enslaved made no difference to their quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:04 PM
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About TRP topics and messages, as well as conservative talking points. What do you want from it? To use a style of speech that boomers could more easily associate with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:03 PM
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Quote me doing it once.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:53 PM
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Check the website where this was published.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:53 PM
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Why are you butthurt now? I've never done that even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:46 PM
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Alright, so you're refusing to answer then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:39 PM
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Saying that you spoke about countries you know about implies there are countries you don't know about, and since you spoke about 1-2 countries, then what else am I supposed to believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:33 PM
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No, that's what you've just said. I’m not ignorant on history I spoke on countries that I know about and what rights they had at certain times. So you are ignorant about countries outside of the few examples you've already listed. So basically you know about the UK and maybe America. Is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:19 PM
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I see, so you're only ignorant on every country except the few ones you know something about. Is that correct? Which ones are the countries you aren't ignorant on?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:02 PM
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It would be like reading some TRP blog and complaining about internet slang.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:01 PM
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If you're so ignorant of history, then why did you make such confident claims about how women were treated and their apparent rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 02:46 PM
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What strange criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 02:45 PM
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The Romans accepting a plunder rather than destruction is not the same as the Romans respecting him and being happy or neutral about his rape and plunder. That is your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 02:29 PM
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This was my initial quote: I think the average Roman woman wasn't too thankful for Genseric's actions in 455, but in your opinion they probably shrugged their shoulders. This was your response: From reading about Genseric and the upper class women directly involved in his Roman siege I wouldn’t say they were thankful or ungrateful. So you took the "average Roman woman" and mixed her with "upper class women" to make a point and then outright lied about both Genseric and how he took the city. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 02:11 PM
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I gave you a specific example of a Roman city being plundered, and your counter to that was saying that women had no rights so they didn't care either way. Now you're saying that you never referred to Roman women when countering an example of Rome being plundered?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 02:00 PM
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So you're now admitting that Roman women had rights and privileges? So they weren't slaves then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 01:57 PM
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So now you're saying you don't know? This is your final answer on the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 01:53 PM
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That's not what I asked. I didn't ask if the middle to upper class Roman women had it better than "some" slave women. I asked if the AVERAGE free woman had it better than the AVERAGE slave woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 01:47 PM
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Then I will ask again, do you believe that during the 400's, the average free Roman woman had it just as bad as the average slave woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 01:44 PM
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Lets take Tinder for example. In the United States, 77% of its users were male, whereas only 23% were female (Statista 2019). This shows that a large majority of men used Tinder, and only a minoriy of women did. That's not what that means. It means that 77% of the people using Tinder are men, not that 77% of all men use Tinder. Also, the 23% of women compete for the top 20% of that 77%, not an equal number to their population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 01:42 PM
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I will ask again, do you believe that during the 400's, the average free Roman woman had it just as bad as the average slave woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 01:38 PM
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No, you didn't just say that women of the past had restrictions and limitations, you said that free women and slave women had it just as bad since the average woman lacked any amount of rights and was basically completely controlled by men. When I gave you evidence to the contrary you just avoided having to counter it. And what rage are you even talking about? Are you some 12 yo who's seen the "f word" for the first time in your life? Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 12:56 PM
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This isn't a good argument because most men couldn't regularly use prostitutes or escorts anyway. First, it's a matter of price; the average man can't really afford to spend $200 per hour just to fuck, I mean if you want to fuck 3 times a week that's already $2,400 per month that you need to pay for a decent escort. Second, it's about availability and risk aversion; since prostitution is illegal in most places and it's a bit difficult to find a trustworthy escort in a lot of places, then most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 11:30 AM
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Jesus fucking Christ... You said that the average woman had no rights whatsoever, and after I gave you a list of the rights the average woman actually had, including things like their husbands having no legal authority over their wives, you just repeated yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 11:23 AM
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No, I used a specific example of one particular siege to show you that the amazonian fantasy you live in is just a fantasy. You countered by saying that there was no real difference between free women and slave women since women apparently had absolutely 0 self-determination or rights and I proved you wrong. You then immediately dropped that entire argument and changed the entire age of the discussion to avoid having to counter my sources. You're being disingenuous now. And if you want to speak …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 12:36 AM
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All unicorns gather on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 12:34 AM
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Totally. 37 yo dudes on the other hand? Dreeeeaaamyyyyyyyy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:53 PM
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We weren't debating gender equality, though. Did you forget the point of this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:53 PM
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You didn't even fucking read what I posted, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:35 PM
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Ah, I see what you're saying. Well, many men throughout history did have harems and polygamy is pretty much always "one man several women", but I don't think those examples really qualified as cheating since the women in question knew what the deal was. I would say historically it was worse for a man to cheat, because a woman was way more dependent on him than he on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 10:53 PM
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I remember the paper that said women are more tolerant of their men cheating if they're only doing it for sexual release, whereas men are more tolerant of their women cheating if they're doing it out of love. As for OP's argument, a simple solution would be getting a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 10:41 PM
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You'd reject a 42 yo Brad Pitt, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 08:44 PM
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I was just answering a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 06:48 PM
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A coincidence. I opened up reddit right before you replied to me. The real reason isn't money IF THE FUCKING VICE PRESIDENT SAYS THAT THEIR POLITICS HAS MADE THEM LOSE MONEY!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 03:35 PM
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Let me give you some advice, the whole surely, woman hating thing? Just cause I refuse to fuck an ugly woman doesn't mean I hate women. Grow up and learn to take rejection. THAT'S the real reason for Marvel's diversity push. Money. Disney only cares about money. What's the real reason? The guy that said he's getting fewer people buying the comics? You just hit all the incel markers - the "eastern European women are the hottest in the world" trope gave it away. But I am Eastern European.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 03:31 PM
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You're an incel, huh? No, an incel is so desperate he'd fuck any woman. I clearly have standards, unlike you. Yeah, didn't think so. Well, the vice president of marvel seemed to have disagreed on that. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/03/marvel-executive-says-emphasis-on-diversity-may-have-alienated-readers No, it is not meaningless. This is literally the only reason why these movies are being made - because they know if they spend $100 million they'll make back seven to ten times that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 10:13 AM
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What if it was a hot 42? Like a Brad Pitt?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 10:09 AM
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All ballsacks are wrinkly so that's not really a good point. Young women want men their own age or up to about 5 years older. Except you. Your difference is 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 12:08 AM
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I see, so all that shit you listed before is meaningless. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:33 PM
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Depends how many skills he checks off. If he is seemingly physically weak and socially submissive, but he has a good job, then the decision will be cold and calculating because it's based on a moderately abstract notion of money. If he is strong, dominant, assertive, dependable and ALSO rich, then that's way more primal, but based on the same factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:33 PM
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In most past patriarchies men couldn't vote either, most women HAD to work because they couldn't survive as housewives only, especially in agrarian communities, the pay part isn't true anyway, you could own property in many countries and rape was a valid reason for divorce, especially in late Rome. You have a depressive fantasy of the past that was beaten into you by modern feminism. According to the historian Valerius Maximus, divorces were taking place by 604 BCE or earlier, and the law code a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:29 PM
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All of these things can apply to a 25 yo man as well, and yet your bf is 37.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:21 PM
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My point was/is that for the bulk of women in history(for most people overall actually) life hasn’t always been that great. Unless you were lucky enough to be born into the wealthy or noble classes of whatever society you were from. If you were from a lower class things probably weren’t the greatest for you. This was also true for the average man. In fact, how did the average man have it better than the average woman exactly? Most cultures around the world were also patriarchal with women basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:04 PM
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My grandma's dead, but when she was alive she definitely wasn't the same as the modern teenage girl, but I don't know how she acted like when she was a teenage girl, so I can't say for sure if she didn't change. I do know that she acted with my grandpa generally the same way I acted with several gf's I had in highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:56 PM
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"Vandalism" was literally coined as a term because of that event. And you're arguing that it didn't matter and the average woman had it the same. Your argument is basically that all women at all points in history were so oppressed that not even mass raping them made them care about their surroundings, since apparently they had it so bad that such events didn't even register for them. What evidence you have for this is a mystery, or how it can even be considered rape since apparently these women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:48 PM
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Anecdotally, virility (gestalt masculinity) and prowess (skill at an activity) are attractive at a visceral level. It isn't just about resource gathering, there is something going on in my hindbrain when I watch a man cut down a tree with a handsaw or play a skillful poker match or verbally eviscerate some jackass. That sounds just like resource gathering though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:43 PM
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They didn't fight because they didn't have the army. This was the end of the Western Roman Empire, by the way. They had no way to fight against him which is why they offered him the deal to begin with. Rape and enslavement were already happening under the Romans. NOT FOR THE FUCKING RICH WOMEN!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:35 PM
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The Roman royal family wasn't enslaved, they were married into the Vandals to give them a claim to the Roman throne. Genseric's army was allowed in, but not to fight Maximus. Maximus was killed at the gates by his own people because he tried to run away. He was allowed into the city with the promise that he won't destroy it, but he still took thousands of slaves, especially female slaves. To me this reads as the Romans “shrugging their shoulders” You make mass rape and enslavement sound pretty g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:24 PM
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Seems consistent with studies on IQ and brain development.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:11 PM
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Now compare Genghis Khan to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:05 PM
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I think the average Roman woman wasn't too thankful for Genseric's actions in 455, but in your opinion they probably shrugged their shoulders. This type of argument invalidates the discussion itself. If posh Roman women had the same existence as the slaves of German barbarians, then I must conclude that any talk of equality is completely silly since apparently women were never anything but slaves to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:54 PM
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The same they define it in other species I suppose. Or do you deny alpha males exist in other species as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:49 PM
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You are now going to such extremes that you're arguing there was no significant difference between the average free woman and the average slave woman. I think we should end it here cause it's getting too goofy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:43 PM
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What's that supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:39 PM
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"About" I don't think our pages look the same, but I found the link. He says they develop mentally at the age of 18, not 16. I don't disagree that much, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:38 PM
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It's true when it comes to both the current sexual market and historical differences between the number of men and women that passed down their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:12 PM
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I have argued with several women on this sub about this before, and they all abide by an amazonian fantasy where women would simply fight men on the battlefield to keep the status-quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:04 PM
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Link it. But I'd also like to say that not everyone on TRP agrees on everything everyone else says. There is a difference of opinion present within it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 08:34 PM
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That's not virtue signaling, that's bitter men that are upset they got sold on a lie and they wish they were the asshole jock instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 07:58 PM
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pseudoscience Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 07:34 PM
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Alright lady, you don't have to write an entire blog. Nobody forces you to reply to me. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 06:52 PM
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Most of those women got sold into slavery, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 06:51 PM
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You talk exactly like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 06:50 PM
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Look son, give it up. Nobody believes you. Maybe my problem is that I'm not American, but Brie would look like a 5/10 at best in Eastern Europe where I live. No, YOU are the one who isn't happy. Iron Man and Thor are still going strong. Now you're just lying for no reason. Ironman can't even crack the 40k sale mark nowadays when it cracked the 200k mark easily in the early 2000's. See here Marvel's official numbers although they stopped updating it in 2012 because of the massive decline in sales…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 06:49 PM
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This seems extremely unrealistic. Even when you look at wars throughout history where some city gets plundered, women never went down fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 06:12 PM
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Alright, give me some examples here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:57 PM
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Fight how?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:55 PM
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IDK, maybe you're only into 2-D girls or something. No, I'm just not into ugly girls. More like 37% No, it's 22%, since 37% takes manga into account as well. 22% of superhero comics are bought by women. That's why they're making comics and stuff that caters to women btw, not some silly ass conspiracy theory to chop all of your dicks off. The comics they're making aren't appealing to anyone since they're not selling, so I still don't see your point. The vicepresident of Marvel seems to have disag…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:52 PM
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You made a claim that rich over-40 men only date 20-somethings. I never made that claim. I implied that a great number of them do. Definitely seems like it, especially among the divorced demographic. That plenty of young guys will date and commit to women who present themselves as Insta party girls. A type of woman you said no man likes beyond casual sex. Well, then I stand corrected on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 04:51 PM
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How many rich guys over 40 do you know? Not read about or whatever, but personally know? Hahahahahah! So this is where the conversation is now? It means plenty if you're in your 20s and want a relationship. And plenty of people marry their college LTR. I still don't understand what your initial point was. And literally none of what you said about hippies contradicts the fact that if you're an RP guy who wants to get laid a lot without throwing cash around/ "enjoy the decline"/whatever, hanging o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 04:23 PM
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Yeah, I'd hit it. You would too if you weren't pretending. Have some self-respect and stop projecting your desperation on others. First off it is. That's why you won't go look it up and tell me the percentage, because you know I have your ass over a barrel. According to this it's 22% female. https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/38709/nycc-insider-sessions-powered-icv2-a-demographic-snapshot-comics-buyers But I don't know if they did the statistic on each comic series or if it's just superheroes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 04:18 PM
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You're only lying to yourself son. Look at this and tell me that's hot (NSFW warning) : https://gfycat.com/incompletefelinedungbeetle My point is it's a significant number for these companies to make content for them. Please see my original post. It isn't. That's why they're losing giants amounts of money doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 03:26 PM
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I don't remember you and don't understand why you're so mad, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 03:10 PM
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You're lying. She's ugly as fucking hell. I still remember seeing her hank hill ass in some movie and I almost choked on my food. Please tell us the percentage of comic book readers that are women. A minority, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 03:05 PM
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you'll see women disproportionately do more physical labor around the house The labor that's easy and undemanding, yes. Women can press a button on the washing machine and use a vacuum, but ask them to fix a table or do any repairs on household appliances and they'll get quiet really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:54 PM
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Because their argument revolves around social stability, and a society filled with whores and manwhores isn't very stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:44 PM
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Yeah but neither is women just fucking ugly dudes because it’s “fair” Considering 80% of dudes ugly is a bit unfair, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:28 PM
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It answered neither and I cannot deduce the third either. But the fact that you avoid to answer them so badly has given me several other answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:26 PM
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Social cliques are based on similarity. Being slutty when you're 20 gives you way more social options than being slutty in your 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:06 PM
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It's cool how I've asked you 3 questions and you've answered none.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 01:59 PM
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Do you recommend marriage, or just relationships? Will you ever marry your current gf, and if the answer is no have you ever told her that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 01:29 PM
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Cause you're a troll, I know. I bet you aren't even a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 12:37 PM
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I don't think she's above me. This is what you said. You think she's more attractive, wealthier and you recognize that apparently you're in a hypergamous relationship, but you perceive that you're her equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 12:30 PM
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I believe there are stats that men externalize blame more in general. It's the opposite. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08870449708407402
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 12:13 PM
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Aren't you the guy that got divorced twice? Or am I mistaking you for someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 12:10 PM
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I bet you guys would've loved Captain Marvel if she got naked in it. I wouldn't want to see Brie Larson naked even if you paid me. Anyway, women are allowed to like those things also, and they have money that's just as green as yours. This doesn't hold up because the people in these industries make these changes even when it loses them money. The comic book industry has been gutted because of these decisions and yet they always double down on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:47 AM
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If you're a muscular, well-off, shy, retiring man, you'll do poorly with the very young If you're a muscular, wealthy, woo hoo Spring Break guy, you're likely to turn off post-college women. No, you wouldn't. How many rich dudes in their 40's or more even have partners over the age of 30? You think it's cause most of them are charismatic? No, I've seen a lot of young guys start relationships with flashy club chicks. What does this have to do with anything? Starting a relationship in your early 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:40 AM
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No, they raise shit all the time about how women should go for so called “better” men who aren’t attractive. Post the links.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:24 AM
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You claimed that age=type and I'm disagreeing. No, I said men consistently prefer women in their 20's. If I said that women consistently prefer guys with muscle and money their whole lives, would you accept the counter that women with age would like different types of guys with muscle and money? What relevance would that even have? Men prefer young women because fertility has telltale signs in women, meaning that you can tell a woman's fertility by her apparent age with high accuracy. This doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:20 AM
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Why? You were the one who decided age was the most salient aspect of male tastes. Because it is and you agreed in your last reply. My argument was that women's tastes in presentation change, as do men's. No, your previous argument was: Most guys lose their appetite for girls in Insta makeup and bandage dresses around 30-something too. You implied that men's taste in women change, but this isn't true. Men consistently like the same type of woman. The instathot you're talking about isn't really li…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:05 AM
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Someone already posted the link, but : https://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/emir.kamenica/documents/identity.pdf It definitely doesn't seem to be particularly complex. If a woman makes more she generally cares less about her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:58 AM
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My argument was that a 22-year-old man and a 30-year-old man's first choice would both be "a 22-year-old woman," but not the same 22-year-old woman. Because tastes change. Their tastes don't change enough to prefer older women, so this is a moot point. Polyandry. Be part of a chick's dude-harem. You might not get the hot skinny chick exclusively, but you can be a side dude. You mean to fuck a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:51 AM
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Your graph does not account for any of the relevant differences. It shows the average man prefers the average 20-22 yo woman in favor of the average woman of any other age group. If your argument is that a beautiful 28 yo outcompetes an ugly 22 yo then you're correct, but those cases are rare enough not to change the overall age preference of men. Then it's clearly not that strong a preference. Solitude and polyandry are both options. If your only 2 choices are fucking a fat chick or being alone…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:28 AM
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You're now adding new variables that people need to take into account just because you're trapped. I think a 28 yo man has more in comment with a 20 yo woman than a 29 yo woman has in common with a 42 yo man. What do you even have in common with your 37 yo partner? You both have jobs and pay your bills, is that it? Is that what qualifies you as mature enough to date an older man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:06 AM
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"Standing out" isn't the same thing as exclusion, though. I never said it is. The graph you posted was about age. Not presentation. Learn the difference. Please tell me the difference. And....most American men don't mind fat chicks nearly as much as the reflexive reddit "ewww! fat people!" would suggest. They don't mind them because they have no choice since 2/3 of US women are fat. That doesn't mean they prefer them to be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:03 AM
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Right, which means that if the men of today would agree with the men of back then, then women would find themselves in the same position, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:01 AM
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Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:00 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:59 AM
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This isn't an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:59 AM
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Then explain yourself. You said she's a catch and you aren't, while saying you're both equally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:59 AM
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Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:57 AM
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You're a 29 yo woman dating a 37 yo man while saying that older men aren't going after younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 04:21 PM
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Sexual selection is a mode of natural selection in which members of one biological sex CHOOSE mates of the other sex to mate with (intersexual selection), and compete with members of the same sex for access to members of the opposite sex (intrasexual selection). These two forms of selection mean that some individuals have better reproductive success than others within a population, either because they are more attractive or prefer more attractive partners to produce offspring First paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 04:18 PM
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That's a pretty sad ass, and the sumo underwear doesn't help.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/19 04:16 PM
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Read this before embarrassing yourself further, please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 04:06 PM
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Really? It was the ground itself that grew a dick and fucked the long-necked female giraffes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 04:03 PM
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certain traits associated with sexual dimorphism were chosen for evolutionarily By whom, God?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:58 PM
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Sexual dimorphic traits are passed down. For example, you don't choose what country you are born in, but your country's existence is due to your ancestors' choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:36 PM
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Yes, people choose sexual dimorphism. Women prefer men taller than them, how is this a mystery?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:14 PM
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Wine aunts stand out, slutty college girls don't. That was my point. You suffer from at least some amount of social exclusion in your 30's if you're just running through men. Most guys lose their appetite for girls in Insta makeup and bandage dresses around 30-something too. They don't. They might stop chasing them for various reasons, but men of any age demographic prefer mostly the same type of women. The Occam's Razor here is just--tastes change. Occam's Razor would also show you that most Am…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:13 PM
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How about the quality of human experience? Meaning? Apparently the French Revolution and the abolitionist movement are inventions as well? Both products of modern Western European philosophy. Time and time again, oppressed classes have risen up, and will continue to do so. The oppressed rarely if ever want equality, they more often than not want revenge or to become the new privileged class. A good example would be feminism actively disparaging men and having most of its most important character…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:00 PM
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If men and women wanted equality, then sexual dimorphism wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:56 PM
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No, it's because women want that regardless of their desire to have kids or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:55 PM
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Get away with being slutty in older social circles, I mean. A slutty 21 yo won't really be judged by her peers, but a slutty 30 yo will have few women in her circle that will share her lifestyle. Also, women want kids by that point and it's pretty difficult to be a whore and a mother at the same time. None of these changes are a result of finding different men sexually attractive, but by having fewer options with age and the biological clock ticking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:49 PM
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You've made my argument for me. It's less likely for you to be able to get away with being slutty and having tons of casual sex when you're in your late 20's/30's, than when you're younger. That doesn't mean that women will fantasize about the passive accountant at work that has a WoW subscription but makes $80k a year when they hit a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:41 PM
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No, it's because men thought it was moral for them to have the right to vote. In America it was a lot to do with certain politicians wanting to increase their voter base through women, and in Europe a lot of it was to do with WW1, but men in general were not against it. Women gained the vote because they created enough chaos and disorder to claim it Except they didn't. Some suffragettes went around burning mailboxes and getting themselves killed on horse tracks, but if that's all they needed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:34 PM
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But their tastes don't change, they just settle down with less attractive guys for financial security because they're getting older. Obviously men are bitter about being 2nd class to other men and having to jump through hoops and display their relationship worth to get what some other guy got by doing none of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:17 PM
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Women demanded the vote and the men gave them the vote, that would hardly be considered a fight. Imagine if you were a vassal country and you'd declare independence by just saying you want it, and the empire you've been a vassal of would say "lol alright I guess" and then you'd call that a war. Same thing here. Women only achieve power by proxy through men, they hold positions in society because men agree they can, not simply because they are so strong and powerful on their own. Again, this is y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:57 PM
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You're a troll, though. He got you with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:54 PM
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You misread my argument and you've been doubling down in the hopes that I'll think you were trolling all along, but I know you're just illiterate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:53 PM
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The laws that protect your rights and freedoms are reinforced by other men, and we were talking about a scenario in which they would no longer exist, because men would no longer agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:47 PM
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Honestly, at this point I really doubt you know how to feed yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:46 PM
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No, you wouldn't. If women in the middle ages didn't try, then neither would modern women. You live in a fantasy created by girl power movies and books.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:26 PM
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This was my initial quote: The same way women can be attracted to dangerous murderers without being into getting murdered. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:32 PM
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I gave you a great example, how did that fly over your head? Do you think that women that send messages to famous prison inmates want to suffer from the crimes they're accused to have committed? It's not that they want to be victims, it's that they're allured by the danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 11:53 AM
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Not at all my argument. My argument is that women that claim to have such massive pride that they simply would't fuck men that hold misogynistic views are not supported by either contemporary evidence or historical evidence. You also assume that you could provide for yourself and simply avoid men in a society acting by TRP ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 11:51 AM
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Murdering a female's young isn't the same as raping the female. In general, it’s easier if both parties are into it. A larger animal can overpower a smaller one, but it makes things simpler if a species evolves not to have to so that. And evolutionarily nonsensical. The point of sexual reproduction is that sexual selection adds an additional selective process on top of environmental pressure, which makes it a superior system compared to asexual reproduction. If a species would simply mate throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:58 AM
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The norm in arranged marriages isn't between an unwilling woman and a willing man, this is just your victim complex flaring up. If you look at a country like India where this is the norm, you'll see that both the woman and the man are simply mercantile in their mentalities and want the best for themselves, in the end settling for one another. I know an Indian guy who told me that his family was approached by other women to arrange marriage with him cause they heard he got hired by some western c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:55 AM
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Right, how are you still confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:52 AM
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Power has nothing to do with it, WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS. There is no egalitarian relationship, one partner will always have more power than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:52 AM
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mystical ones You mean a woman? Lol! Being a woman and having dudes fuck you isn't an achievement. And I don't know how old you are but I assumed you're over 30, so you're basically a boomer to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:51 AM
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I don't know if they were completely ok with it, but they still fucked men, didn't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:49 AM
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As an early 20's chad, I wish you'd tell your boomer girlfriends to stop hitting on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:07 AM
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You're just bitter because young women out-compete you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:49 AM
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No, they made it illegal to reduce cases of pedophilia and grading bias. We've been over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:41 AM
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If you think pedophilia and blackmail are bad then you should have no problem with the teacher going to jail for having sex with a student. Non-sequitur. And again, this wasn't in question. You claimed he was responsible for statutory rape or just regular rape, which he wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:16 AM
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I would blame that on their low confidence especially with IRL women, rather than their general unwillingness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:41 PM
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Right, and neither of those things were in question. I'm saying power imbalance itself isn't bad nor can laws be passed to level the playing field. But pedophilia and blackmail are obviously bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:39 PM
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Are you illiterate? I just said they don't want to be raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:38 PM
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I can't believe you're still triggered. Oh wait, I actually can.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:09 PM
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Don't take my word for it, look it up. Femcels are a meme because their issue isn't actually about an incapability to have sex or even relationships, their problems are an incapability to have sex and relationships with the guys they find really attractive. But incels genuinely would have a relationship with any woman. If you would've lurked on any of the subs before they got nuked or on any of the forums, you'd see that the type of poster that would say "hurrr you only want pretty women durrr" …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:08 PM
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The femcel sub literally went private because they received too many requests from dudes to date them. A lot of those requests were from r/incel crossposters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:00 PM
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And murder requires a woman to not consent, otherwise it's assisted suicide. The women in question aren't attracted to getting raped, they're attracted to the assholes that are very likely gonna rape them if they get drunk at a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:56 PM
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I'm only 23, honey buns.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:36 PM
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Women here will say that it's because incels only want attractive women, and most of the men will say that even the ugly women want attractive men. It's probably a bit of both, but if an ugly woman would post on the incel forums to say she's looking for a partner she would get WAY more responses than if an incel would post on the femcel subs. So it seems to me that the latter is more accurate than the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:35 PM
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The same way women can be attracted to dangerous murderers without being into getting murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:29 PM
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Isn't TRP basically what men believed for 99% of human history? It seems women fucked men just fine during that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:27 PM
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Oh, sweetie.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:14 PM
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I have no problems with dating. But thanks for your concern. LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:06 PM
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FDS is basically about giving men the illusion you're someone else, whereas a big portion of TRP is actually about changing yourself to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:04 PM
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See how emotional and irrational you got just because I gave my honest opinion? The average 20 yo and 30 yo woman would've acted the same way. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:02 PM
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Nonsense. If some billionaire marries and fucks some third world street cleaner, should that be qualified as rape too? There is a huge gap in power between them after all. The reason why teachers aren't allowed to seek relations with their students has nothing to do with "power" or anything vague like that. It's to reduce grading bias and pedophilia cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:01 PM
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I don't hate women, that's just my impassionate impression of them. Women don't really change that much throughout their lives, but men very often do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:58 PM
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What does that have to do with statutory rape? Why are you mixing these two for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:37 PM
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The only difference is that older women either want kids or already have them, which makes them just slightly more pragmatic. But in every other way they're the same: they've never read any book other than school shit, romantic dramas or erotic stuff, if you make them list their favorite movies they're all entry-level garbage or other light romantic comedy shlock, or even worse stuff targeted at kids; Have no real hobbies and think "laughing and having fun" constitute one; Have little to no unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:34 PM
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So how exactly is someone supposed to be legally punished if he didn't do anything illegal? Your personal moral code isn't the law of the land.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:18 PM
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Then you're wrong, cause apparently children can consent as the age of consent is 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 08:34 PM
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The age of consent in that state is 16. How many times do you need this to be told to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 08:02 PM
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only that it doesnt matter to men whether women are childless or not Is this a joke? Single mothers are dating poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 08:01 PM
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What did I lie about? And his point was that he should've been fired regardless of abuse. He argues that if she consented to any sexual advances then he didn't abuse her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 07:12 PM
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He said at the beginning of the video that he should've been fired for going after girls, even if he wasn't guilty of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 07:01 PM
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Maybe, but it's more likely the fact that they like to be dominated by an authority figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:54 PM
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Honestly, there isn't that much of a personality difference between your average 20 yo and your average 30 yo woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:52 PM
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It's beyond doubtful that a woman gets rejected 15 or 20 times, so nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:29 PM
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creeps It's always this, isn't it? Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:29 PM
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But I know girls with a daddy fetish that don't have daddy issues and have a good relationship with their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:27 PM
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If a woman has sex against her will then that is rape. And I don't think you understand what arranged marriage was like if you think it was somehow a patriarchal practice that benefited mostly men. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 02:13 PM
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Well it apparently matters a lot to women in their 30's since they complain so much about it. Go to the datingover30 sub and see how many of them bitch about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 01:49 PM
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Because the poster I replied to implied that it's all the same, since what matters the most is simply being younger. That's not true, men objectively prefer a certain age group and they prefer that age group their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 01:25 PM
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And what does that have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 12:49 PM
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attractive Well yeah, young women aren't creeped out by attractive older men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 12:23 PM
0

There is no mammal species that reproduces through rape as a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 12:11 PM
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It creates a knee jerk “ew, you’re supposed to be paternal to me, not try to seduce me” vibe Why do so many girls have a daddy fetish then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:39 AM
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Maybe they have other qualities Power and money, like how women selected men for 99.99% of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:32 AM
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You're looking at this from a female perspective because women generally prefer men roughly their own age, but men do not. Men of ANY age prefer women in their early 20's, so a 40 yo man would only go after a 28 yo woman as a 2nd or 3rd choice, his first choice being always an early 20's woman. You can see the pattern here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:25 AM
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Not that many people are seeing him since his video has 900 views, but whatever. You were still disingenuous and constantly misrepresented his views, even though this video was supposed to be some "gotcha!".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 02:13 AM
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Yes, he did. He said it like 8 times during the video. Don't try to lie about it. I don't care either way. Fuck you're so annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 11:52 PM
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But he did acknowledge that preying on teenagers is disgusting. He said he should've lost his job for it. His problem is that she ruined his life with only a claim, not that she outed her abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 11:40 PM
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Alright, and? Why have you made me this man's public defender all of a sudden? If you disagree with him then send him a message.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 11:09 PM
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The morality isn't in question as the uploader of that video admits himself. His complaint is that it only takes a woman's claim that she was abused to ruin a man's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 10:49 PM
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Well, his argument was that the age of consent in the state where this happened was 16, so technically this wasn't statutory rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 10:10 PM
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His point was that the only thing needed to ruin the man's life was the accusation, he didn't say that raping women is fine. He spends like the first minute pathetically reassuring his audience that he doesn't mean that at all, so there's no way you could've come to that conclusion if you watched the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 09:28 PM
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No, the fact that he went to trial ruined his life, regardless of the truth of the accusation. Do you understand? He didn't have to pay $100k, he didn't get fired and his wife didn't divorce him because he was proven guilty, but because he was suspected to be guilty and had to go to trial over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 08:45 PM
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hehe he only had to pay like $100k for a trial, got divorced and got fired LOL big deal Alright, good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:56 PM
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Well clearly she did have power because she got him on trial with just a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:06 PM
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Ok then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 05:45 PM
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Have you even watched the video you linked to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 05:44 PM
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Europe is fucked in the sense that it has no future at this rate, but the exact same can be said about America, so that's a moot point. Marriage isn't a more attractive prospect in America than in Europe anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 05:43 PM
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So women are as repulsed by men as men are repulsed by gay men? Holy shit...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 05:00 PM
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He said the guy should be fired for going after her, but the fact that the girl had the power to put him on trial just because of her claim, whereas the guy wouldn't have had that power means he isn't that powerful in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:59 PM
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Love and sex are completely different and its unhealthy to confuse the two. Yes and? There is such a thing as a healthy sex life. Of course not having sex and human intimacy, even if devoid of love will have a negative impact on you. Just because you dont identify as the other two doesnt mean you dont agree with them. I don't disagree with their general ideas, I might disagree with certain individuals that identify as part of those groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:58 PM
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Because you generalize your frugality we can't see eye to eye. If you just said "I'm like this and the people I know are like this" then I'd say fine, but you claim that most people are like this or that this is typical of Americans in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:48 PM
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TRP spawns several ideologies, but you can be part of TRP without following them. You don't have to be MGTOW to be part of TRP, that's what I'm saying. Anyway, I've now seen that video and I definitely agree with him. His point is that women can easily destroy a man's life and reputation with a claim of sexual harassment and rape, which gives them a lot more social power than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:47 PM
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Most women arent feminists. They don't identify with feminism, but I doubt they really disagree with it. Loneliness and mental health are the real problems. Not blue balls and “hypergamy”. Those are connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:45 PM
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Yeah, I stand corrected on that. I meant "developed world" cause I thought of certain European countries and Japan, but while their marriage rates are dropping they're still slightly higher than 50%, so I was wrong. Still, marriage rates are dropping and the divorce rate in those populations is still over 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:43 PM
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I don't know what to tell you. This seems weird and I can't relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:16 PM
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I don't know about that... https://www.statista.com/statistics/195951/marriage-rate-in-the-united-states-since-1990/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:11 PM
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Well, at least you worked through college.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:10 PM
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When I was broke in college my neighbor was a drug fealer. Damn, I thought this post was written by u/decoy88 for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:58 PM
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Or it's also the fact that you live with other people, so that if something breaks you'll just pool your money. Obviously that changes the likelihood of you paying for something yourself. If you lived on your own and your toilet would break or the fridge wouldn't work properly or the fuse box would hiccup all the time, I really doubt you'd have this passive mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:56 PM
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Seems ridiculous. A google search gave me this: Electricians typically charge $40 to $100 per hour with a $75 service call-out fee. Small electrical projects range from $141 to $419 with most homeowners spending $280 on average. You pay $200 in rent every month? That's less than here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:48 PM
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i guess the question is why do you hate men so much that you pretend this isn't a real problem? It's not hatred, women generally just can't empathize with men on these issues. The average woman on this sub will be very clear that she doesn't think this is a real problem, the average woman on the larger subs will just laugh it off and not even engage in discussion. Women IRL aren't much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:45 PM
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The price differs, but when I worked minimum wage I still had enough money saved to be able to make such a call, and minimum wage here is less than you probably make every 3 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:42 PM
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No, dirt poor peasant women can afford to call the repairman once in a while too. I don't understand how poor you need to be to not afford this sort of thing. I'm not exactly sure, but a lot of young kids leave home pretty early nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:30 PM
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I honestly don't remember the point of this conversation anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:24 PM
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Wtf are you talking about? Women in EE can afford that, so American women can definitely afford it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:23 PM
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You're dragging the conversation out for no reason. I said most women agreed with her, that's what my sample size suggested. This is my last reply to you, so go ahead and have the last word if you want. Not gonna read it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:22 PM
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Haven't finished the video yet, but that guy is MGTOW. TRP and MGTOW aren't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:15 PM
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I don't believe you. Provide some stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:14 PM
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Do you have a shut off button? Jesus Christ...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:10 PM
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This is what you said: you probably work the standard 30-40 hours a week and I’m assuming you’re only consistently shopping for yourself. In that situation it’s not work. When you have a lot of other obligations and many people to shop for shopping can definitely be work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:10 PM
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Cause your argument is that shopping is only unpaid labor IF you are extremely busy otherwise, and it stops being unpaid labor if your schedule is relatively free. None of these statistics agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:02 PM
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It applies to all European countries as far as I'm aware. The few ME men that I know agree with me, so I don't know if it really is regional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 03:01 PM
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No, it doesn't. You're misunderstanding your own argument at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:58 PM
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Yes, and? TRP men realize the dangers that other men represent, you don't need to pick between one or the other, you can understand both. However, talking about how dangerous men are isn't a social taboo so nobody needs to find niche places to get advice on that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:57 PM
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Romania, most women here are poor and still don't know how to take care of themselves, so I don't see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:56 PM
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Alright, do any of them differentiate unpaid labor based on the woman's work hours and parental status? If not then your argument is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:55 PM
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I don't live in the US. But I doubt American women are that self-sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:51 PM
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All of them are doing that by default, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:49 PM
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I said "most women" and I used a reliable sample size. I don't know what else you want from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:48 PM
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But you can and I'll never stop you. What's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:48 PM
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My sample size is a pretty random population sample, though. It's not like all the women I know are all the same. Anyway, this argument is dumb cause you're just accusing me of using anecdotal evidence while countering it with your own anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:32 PM
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They don't differentiate between the unpaid labor of women of different demographics, even though they might consider the demographics. None of the studies that I've seen claim that a woman that only works 30 hours but shops and cooks and cleans isn't doing unpaid labor. Maybe you can give me an example of such a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:26 PM
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Facts dont care about your feelings Alright, so just say that I'm wrong. Why beat around the bush? So only men are allowed to have horror stories about opposite gender? No, women can share all the stories they want about other women getting raped and giving each other advice on how to better avoid dangerous men. I would never have a problem with that, but you do with men doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:25 PM
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The women I know either pay for a repairman or call some guy friend if they have an issue. No man that I know needs to call over a woman to cook for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:19 PM
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It's a sample size. Do you think that the polls asking people what they think on a certain matter ask absolutely fucking everyone? Or do you think that unless they ask absolutely everyone that they can't tell what the majority of people thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:18 PM
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When did I say that? You didn't, but I got a feeling that this is what you believe. Correct me if I'm wrong. Says the person bringing up horror stories about women. Says the person posting links about rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:16 PM
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They don't do any of these things. They just add up the total worked hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:09 PM
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I can tell you from personal experience that while I have needed to call a repairman several times, I myself did several repairs around the house. I fixed the sink, toilet, boiler, heater, fridge, computer, fusebox, and other stuff like a few chairs, a table, the knobs on several doors, mounted window nets, repaired the vacuum cleaner, etc. I have never known any woman ever that did any of these things or even attempted them, while I do know several men that clean and cook, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:07 PM
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And what does that have to do with differentiating between childless women and mothers or women that work 80 hours and women that only work 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:04 PM
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Is this pedantry still going on just because I didn't mention "that I've read" at the end of the sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 02:03 PM
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An equal amount of men and women do it because an equal amount know how to do it. Provide the evidence for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:57 PM
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Yes according to the stats, you’re supposed to contextualize them. That’s why they have the abstract and the breakdown of the study, explanation on who or what comprises the sample etc. The stats don't consider childless women that only work 30 hours a week to not do unpaid labor by shopping. It counts it all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:55 PM
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You immediately jumped to the conclusion that men sharing stories about their negative experiences with one another and giving each other advice on how to avoid bad experience is somehow oppressive to women. You also tried to play the victim card by bringing up rape victims because you cannot stand that anyone else can have a genuine issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:53 PM
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The amount of men and women that can do home repairs is fairly equal anyway. It’s why you see more married couples calling in electricians plumbers and contractors than you see them calling in maids and personal chefs. Non-sequitur. The reason people call electricians and plumbers is because fewer people can do those things on their own, whereas cooking and cleaning is way more accessible. After my parents divorced my mom started doing home repairs herself. Oh yeah of course she did. While worki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:16 PM
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And what's the issue with women telling other women to practice safety to reduce the chance of that happening to them? Cause you apparently take issue with it the other way around. And no, you definitely don't tell men what to do to be safe to take precautions. It's no better than how SJWs SJW's like you, you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:12 PM
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And why did she do that? She needed the money or what? It’s all relative to what’s already on your plate. Not according to the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:09 PM
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The overwhelming majority don't. And this argument could be applied to shopping and cooking too. It's just giving the wives something to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:08 PM
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But childless wives' "unpaid labor" is counted the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 01:07 PM
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And what does that have to do with shopping being considered unpaid labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:53 PM
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There's a difference between knowing that's a possibility and preparing for that possibility. The whole point of TRP is to tell men how to not get themselves in the position of the other users that recount their horror stories about how some woman ruined their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:53 PM
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Those stats don't differentiate between "shopping with kids" and "shopping alone".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:49 PM
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And yet I can't do simple counting of articles on the net. Lol! Stop coping and accept the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:47 PM
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Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:46 PM
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I see, is that why women refuse to fix stuff around the house themselves, and do basically 0 home repairs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:46 PM
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She had to work 80+ hours a week What? What was her job? And I shop for myself now and I don't consider it hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:45 PM
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The other poster already mentioned it but the divorce rate is going down only because the marriage rate is massively down. Most people in the developed world in the younger generations will never get marry, which is a first in human history as far as I'm aware. Shit's fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:43 PM
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You're being dense on purpose. Nobody thinks that they're going to work by shopping. This is an insane idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:58 AM
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Modern culture doesn't promote honest love and family building, so TRP in response tells you how best to navigate the game with the current rules. TRP isn't about educating women on the pitfalls of feminism or whatever else, it's just about making the best out of a bad situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:51 AM
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Alright, then how about this: Oh shit I ran out of completely healthy and vitamin filled natural fruit juice better go to work at the grocery store to get myself some more. Lmao! Does that sound less ridiculous for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:49 AM
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I guess you're right. Oh shit I ran out of beer better go to work at the grocery store to get myself some more. Lmao!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:44 AM
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But TRP isn't about ignoring women or not seeking relationships, so your point is confusing. Molyneux is almost bipolar in his beliefs, so I don't take his views very seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:43 AM
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Jesus Christ... Have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:29 AM
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Most of the bigger TRP personalities are either married or in relationships. TRP isn't the same as MGTOW, you're confusing the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:27 AM
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And you believed I did a comprehensive study on the women I talked to IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 12:09 AM
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Generally to be in a position to bounce back. Live your life in such a way that a woman is a positive addition to it, but not required or irreplaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:55 PM
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No, that's wrong. TRP doesn't tell you to refuse entering any relationship with a woman because she can cheat, it tells you to be ready if that happens. And I don't think the terms are that fluid. Most people in the comment section in the link you posted seemed to share the same definition and none of them are your interpretation of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:42 PM
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Oh yeah, totally. Can you just imagine walking to the store and then walking back?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:37 PM
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AWALT is about a woman's potential as far as I understand it. Meaning that not all women cheat, but all women can cheat. Not all women lack loyalty, but all women can display a lack of loyalty, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:30 PM
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In order for this to be a proper argument, you'd need to clarify exactly what you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:25 PM
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Name such tenets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:17 PM
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Fair point, but TRP is mostly just ridiculed by people like you, never actually debated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:10 PM
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The whole "unpaid work means women work more than men" is such a fucking meme and it isn't surprising so many women latch onto it. A reminder that shopping is considered unpaid work when these statistics about how women work more than men are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:00 PM
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hypergamy unscientific What?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 10:51 PM
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Pattern recognition doesn't make you a collectivist. The best way to kill TRP is if you allow these views to be debated in public, but since they're taboo by default then men need to coalesce in niche places to talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 10:48 PM
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Alright, but the fact that the same ruling class with the same ideology has existed for the entirety of human history everywhere on the planet even before written language and civilization seems far-fetched.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 10:30 PM
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There are no hierarchies for crabs in the bucket, that's the entire point of that example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 10:26 PM
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You conveniently ignored the 2nd half of my post to make this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:48 PM
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Peacocks fight other peacocks over territory and to establish dominance, and peahens are attracted to the winners of the conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:16 PM
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You mistake "approaching" with "selecting".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:10 PM
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But "fuck this environment" is also natural Then why can't you name any non-sexist environments?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:01 PM
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A male just stands there attracting females spreading his tail. In many other birds a male sings so that females would fly to him and maybe choose him. Yes, as in initiating the courtship ritual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:54 PM
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So sexism is natural and normal then? If so, what's your point about "sexist environment"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:53 PM
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I never claimed they were family segregated. You're the one that talked about segregation, not me. No, they don't. It's the males that do, the female only selects the best male.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:48 PM
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You're being disingenuous now by mistaking the meaning of "nurture". The "nurture vs nature" debate doesn't imply that only one factor is relevant and that people are either unaffected by nature or nurture, but which of the 2 is the deciding factor when it comes to certain traits being displayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:46 PM
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And how does that mean that they were gender segregated? Amd in these species females approach. No, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:42 PM
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You are claiming that personality differences between sexes are due to nurture and not nature, yet you believe nurture is constant and unchanging, which makes your claim meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:34 PM
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Not having houses isn't the same as not having shelter. People didn't just sleep in the elements. As I said, females can approach and still be gatekeepers of sex in some species. You have not named even 1 species in which that's the case. You've only given examples of species in which parental care is shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:33 PM
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Give me an example of a non-sexist environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:26 PM
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No, that's wrong. Where the fuck are you getting gender segregation from? But why were they approached by men? Why do peacocks have large pretty tails and peahens have none? Why do bulls lock horns but cows do not? Why do lions have manes and become leaders of prides while lionesses do not? Same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:22 PM
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Here, this goes a bit more in-depth: https://marcodgdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/delgiudice_2015_gender-differences_personality-social_chapter.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:19 PM
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Whores existed way before porn, movies or even electricity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:16 PM
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I don't think you understand what a tribe is. You can have a culture and social rules, as well as art and still be a tribe. Tribes aren't just hairy cave dwellers. No, it has nothing to do with anything like that. They didn't approach because they didn't need to since they were constantly approached by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:14 PM
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Obviously humans are social animals and men are too, but they are less social than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:10 PM
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A civilization isn't determined by group size. Late paleolithic covers roughly 20% of human existence. I don't understand why you think it's not long enough to have an impact on evolution. Europe didn't even have humans living in it at the start of the late paleolithic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:08 PM
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Science. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190130175604.htm It makes sense, too. For most of human history women spent pretty much all their time around other women and children, whereas men served as hunters and warriors, so they didn't need to socialize as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:05 PM
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Yes, they were tribes. Not all tribes were small communities based around immediate families only. The paleolithic includes 99% of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:52 PM
1

What? What claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:50 PM
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A stranger doesn't equal a different tribe. By the late paleolithic, tribes already grew to tens of thousands, a woman couldn't possibly know everyone there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:41 PM
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No, just the women I was exposed to in both IRL and on the internet. The ratio of articles written in her favor to articles criticizing her made by women is also pretty telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:39 PM
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Then why would she approach a man from another tribe? Why are you acting as if her only choice is a man from another tribe?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:13 PM
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If it's a sex issue then preaching is completely irrelevant since it's not a matter of personal opinion or perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:01 PM
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Which is why she would require some form of social assurance that he couldn't/wouldn't just run away. That's irrelevant when it comes to who initiates the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 07:00 PM
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Nothing surprising since civilization itself is created by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:05 PM
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No, but tribes had social rules where you couldn't simply abandon a woman you impregnated. Marriage didn't get invented out of nowhere. Those examples say nothing about initiation, they talk about parental care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:05 PM
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Sex being an eventuality doesn't mean it has to be done on the first date. You could google that. No, you do it. You made the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:54 PM
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Then you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:50 PM
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So does a woman. A woman initiating doesn't equal a woman spreading her legs on the first date. I have no clue wtf you're talking about. There are enough species where females initiate List them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:45 PM
7

Glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:42 PM
5

It does? I must be reading it wrong cause it says men work more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:42 PM
2

Initiating doesn't mean fucking. And I have explained why they evolved to be the initiators, male gametes are cheaper to create.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:17 PM
2

There's nothing "costly" about it, since the rate at which women get rejected is miniscule. It's the fact that they don't have to initiate and historically they were approached enough to never even think about it except the situations where they went after the top 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:15 PM
11

"1 in 5 homeless people are now women"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:13 PM
1

Nah what? I don't understand what your argument is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:12 PM
7

Men work more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:11 PM
1

You can only be pickier if you have more options, and you can't have more options if you initiate as much as you are initiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:08 PM
1

It's about the value of gametes and producing offspring. Men put less energy in producing offspring than women, and so women evolved to be more picky. It goes like that in pretty much every species on earth with maybe 1 exception or so. That's why you have pictures like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:01 PM
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This reminded me of when Hillary said women are the primary victims of war because they lose their husbands and then most women agreed with her. What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 04:58 PM
1

There's less social safety than there used to be, so they initiate less than THEY USED TO, but at all points in human history, including the present, the majority of the initiators were men, not women. Do you understand? And it has nothing to do with intimidation either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 04:54 PM
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It's not culture, it's biology. The reason men don't initiate as much is because there's way less social safety in doing so and way smaller rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 04:51 PM
2

I dindu nuffin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:23 PM
1

Reported for what? It's an honest piece of advice. A hobo will accept you for what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:16 PM
5

And adult female civilians are also more fragile than adult male civilians, and yet adult males die way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:15 PM
1

Check a dumpster first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:15 PM
1

They don't really care about retards. Why do you think the asylums were all shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:14 PM
2

That's not up to you. Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:01 PM
1

Dating/courting is nice but really not that serious. Maybe, but if you told your future husband that you had 80 boyfriends, he'd probably call off the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:57 PM
5

Most of those deaths happened when the children were infants because there was an extremely high mortality rate among newborns. We're talking about children up to 14 here, not just babies. And we're talking about casualties as a result of war, not just natural death rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:54 PM
1

The efficiency of the medical staff has nothing to do with whether they were paid or not. Plenty of incompetents work for the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:51 PM
1

It got enough of my taxes to function in the first place, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:39 PM
1

doesn't know how taxes work doesn't know how to file her own nails Honey, what institution did you escape from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:37 PM
1

What does your poor grooming have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:19 PM
1

You've been doing that your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:15 PM
1

Already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:11 PM
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Are you now denying that women have higher standards than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 02:01 PM
1

get my nails did Use my taxpayer money to get some English lessons while you're at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:55 PM
1

You're posting from a cave? Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:54 PM
1

You've already gotten it and you'll keep getting it until you're dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:51 PM
1

Like I have a choice. Lmao! Men subsidize women's existence because women as a demographic are a net financial negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:50 PM
1

If she fails in either category, that is then her own issue to resolve. Nah, women aren't individualist libertarians, they're opportunist socialists. And when they fuck up, society (ergo, men) have to pick up the slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:28 PM
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Yeah, how is this a debate? If you look up casualties of any war pretty much you'll see there's more child casualties of war than adult female casualties. It's life on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:25 PM
1

Alright then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:19 PM
1

Well you can now empathize I hope, because I didn't buy your story at all either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:13 PM
1

Alright, that never happened to me. I don't know how much clearer I can make that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:11 PM
1

Because I don't bend them over to get a sniff of their asses, so the only way I can notice if they stink or not is to be close enough to them for comfortable conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:06 PM
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peoples lifestyles Cause you're telling men to apply a different ideology to improve their lives. No, it's a case of using gender differences to your advantage rather than your disadvantage. Men are by default less social than women, so I don't see how you expect this to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 01:04 PM
1

I said they use body spray because of this quote: Since you’ve been saying people you know don’t stink in a “meaningful” or “noticeable” way. Not that they don’t stink full stop. That’s telling. You implied that they just have no noticeable smell but if I were to get closer then they'd all stink of sweat. Whereas that isn't true, since they all have a clear smell of body spray.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 12:58 PM
1

What's weird about it? Most adults I know groom themselves, with only a very few exceptions that I listed before.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 12:49 PM
1

Is that what your drug dealer friends do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 12:45 PM
12

So it isn't a matter of personal ideology, then? It's just a matter of the sexes being different. Do you think it's logical to expect that this sex difference could be bridged by simply telling men to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 12:44 PM
1

The same as I doubt your story.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 12:41 PM
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If a lack of inertia and apathy is the problem, then it shouldn't be a gendered issue. Unless you're implying that women are somehow all social and active.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 12:12 PM
1

Many are awkward, but there's a huge difference between being terrible and being awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:29 AM
1

Yes, they do that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:14 AM
1

Seems inherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:50 PM
1

Yes yes, racial bias... Why doesn't that racial bias hurt some other racial groups? Like say, East Asians?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:06 PM
1

No, they just don't stink. Every man I know uses body spray.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:53 PM
1

I never said anything about millions, you're just crying about unfair racial stereotypes when you apparently know so many drug dealers that you notice racial patterns among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:52 PM
1

I don't smell that either. I do work for a living and I am in college too. Nobody here stinks in any noticeable way. The people I visit also don't have stinky homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:19 PM
1

I don't really hear these complaints IRL. The only people that I know IRL that stink are hobos, the occasional gypsy and the random extremely obese person. I don't know any regular adult, man or woman that smells bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:56 PM
1

Alright, good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:54 PM
1

I'm jealous. You should teach me sometimes. I especially have troubles reaching the back of my balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:53 PM
1

Very, very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:51 PM
3

I think you should speak for yourself, stinky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:49 PM
1

didnt care about james bond Meaning what? Most fans of James Bond would qualify as only casual viewers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:48 PM
1

Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:45 PM
1

So the average man has been like that, not just college kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:44 PM
1

Saying things like "racial bias is strong" is a pretty weak argument after you admitted to having drug dealer friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 05:43 PM
1

Weird, I was at that club too and can verify it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 03:36 PM
1

I cannot believe I'm reading this BS. Lmao! Do you honestly think this is believable to anybody?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:25 PM
2

No, you chalked it up to that being the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:24 PM
0

Except they did. You have no idea what cinema culture was like decades ago if you think it was predominantly single men going to see James Bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:24 PM
1

Then check this out: Figures from the Office for National Statistics showed that in 2007 an estimated 10.6 percent of London's population of 7,556,900 were black.[25] Evidence shows that the black population in London boroughs increases with the level of deprivation, and that the level of crime also increases with deprivation, such that "It is clear that ethnicity, deprivation, victimisation and offending are closely and intricately inter-related".[26] In June 2010, through a Freedom of Informat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:21 PM
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