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Do you also believe that the university should have suspended judgment as well?
/r/MensRights24/05/15 12:39 PM
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Explain adoption or safe haven laws then. Shouldn't the biological parents be on the hook for child support in both of these cases as well?
/r/MensRights09/05/15 07:29 PM
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So your argument is that men don't bond with their children or love women unless they get made sandwiches?
/r/MensRights04/12/14 02:58 PM
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It's so that prostitutes don't have to worry about being arrested for prostitution if they need the justice system for help. For example, if prostitution was illegal, would any prostitutes seek aid from the police if they were being beaten or threatened by a pimp? Prostitutes are viewed as victims, whereas drug dealers are not. Nobody cares if a drug dealer gets robbed and can't go to the police to report the robbery. Somehow being forced into prostitution because of your economic circumstances …
/r/MensRights10/11/14 09:24 PM
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I don't know if this is true. It's probably changed the opinion some gamers had of feminism in a negative way. I don't know that it follows that those same gamers would be naturally lead to the MRM. That being said, the catalyst for my interest in the MRM was Rebecca Watson and ElevatorGate.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 08:58 PM
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It really outlines the difference between feminism and the MRM. Feminists can't decide whether men should be included and in what capacity. Whereas the MRM recognizes that women have a much greater impact on our advocacy and have a vital role to play within the movement.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 08:53 PM
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Exactly. If the Jennifer Lawrence pictures were of her molesting children, nobody would be giving two shits about the invasion of her privacy (and rightfully so).
/r/MensRights08/10/14 03:04 PM
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Unfortunately, I only have 1 downvote to give this article. The headline is inflammatory and the "evidence" (and I used the term very loosely) doesn't prove anything.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 03:39 PM
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Best comment: Alright Katie riddle me this. If publishing a list of (accused) rapists is OK, why are the names not shown here? If doxxing rapists is a good thing, why the hesitation? Is it because publishing this stuff without verifying validity opens you to defamation claims?
/r/MensRights23/09/14 01:26 PM
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Adding to your point, most of these prisoners will eventually be released. They were broken people before being put in prison, now they are coming out 10x worse.
/r/MensRights22/09/14 07:19 PM
1

So women who post at /mr have less respect for women?
/r/MensRights19/09/14 03:04 PM
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There's always a trade off, which is where a lot of analysis falls short. Gender roles are only beneficial or detrimental when placed into a context, which makes it very easy to cherry pick which sex has all the "privilege". from guys like us for example Is this a specific dig at /r/mensrights posters? Men? Why are women excluded from your statement?
/r/MensRights17/09/14 09:42 PM
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But besides talking about it on forums, I can't think of any examples of MRM activism on behalf of gay men. Can you?
/r/MensRights04/09/14 01:35 PM
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I'm not sure I agree with the headline you've used. Maybe I'm unaware of MRA activism in regards to the stigma that gay men face, but this seems to be a victory for the LBGT community. It feels like we are patting ourselves on the back for something that we support on paper, but don't actively champion.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 08:57 PM
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I'd love to see some examples that aren't down voted if this kind of thinking is rampant in the MRM. Please don't provide examples from "Red Pill'ers" as I don't consider them to be MRAs.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 08:52 PM
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The irony burns. Look at the sidebar on the left. It contains a picture of two shady looking guys and a vulnerable looking woman. Personal Robbery Robberies are driven by opportunity. The more vulnerable you appear, the more likely you will be robbed. Last year, the EPS received over 1500 calls for service to report a personal robbery. Don't be an easy target - Learn how to protect yourself! Apparently the Edmonton Police Service are a bunch of theft apologists. Teach robbers not to rob.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 08:47 PM
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You are getting down voted because you're a bigot, not because "the gays" and "the secret feminists" hate you.
/r/MensRights03/09/14 02:17 PM
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Why don't you believe it? Your feels?
/r/MensRights21/08/14 05:03 PM
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It might be more common than most people realize. http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/cdc-being-made-to-penetrate-isnt-rape/
/r/MensRights21/08/14 03:39 PM
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I would describe myself as an MRA and I'm not on board with you on this point. If you ask someone if they have an STD and they lie about their status, do you really have informed consent? You wouldn't have had sex if they had been truthful. Does this qualify as rape? I don't think so. Does it qualify as sexual assault of some kind? In my opinion, yes. In Canada, you are required to disclose your HIV status before engaging in activities that have a significant risk of transmission or you can be p…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 08:19 PM
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This is a sexist statement. I can't believe it's getting upvoted.
/r/MensRights18/08/14 07:04 PM
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Just to add onto what you've already stated. A hot woman in a skimpy outfit is a male sexual fantasy. It's also a female power fantasy. Isn't this one of the messages constantly being sent out by feminists that ridiculously attractive photo-shopped images of women set the standard to an unattainable level. Doesn't this imply that women want to look like these women? Women fantasize about being her.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 09:14 PM
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When women were sexual, their proper place was in the home as caregivers and mothers. When women became passionless, their proper place was still in the home as caregivers and mothers. Isn’t it funny how that works? The gender role for women as caregivers is derived from their uterus and ability to lactate, not their level of enjoyment in sex.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 04:59 PM
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I have to disagree with you on this point: Well, the fact that she writes "Feminists who do not identify with sex-positive ideologies are often accorded little room in discussions and spaces" does actually speak well for feminism. The idea that adult women cannot be responsible for their own decisions in the bedroom is misogyny. It makes absolute sense that this idea is rejected by feminists. I would expect MRAs to reject someone espousing the belief that men are animals who aren't in control of…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 07:34 PM
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From the article in question: “I have said that a country which saved the Jews during the Second World War, if they would establish any law against circumcision, they would have done what Hitler wanted to do,” said Rabbi Bent Lexner, chief rabbi to Denmark’s Jewish community of 7,500.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 05:29 PM
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This needs to be upvoted more. The article is quite damning.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 09:33 PM
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She wasn't convicted of orchestrating the murder of her husband. She was only convicted of perjury when she lied about the relationship she was having with her husbands killer. The criminal justice system is imperfect.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 01:55 PM
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Couldn't agree more.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 07:27 PM
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This is only true if you discount female on male rape like the in CDC NISVS 2010 report.
/r/MensRights06/03/14 07:47 PM
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You might have a point if /u/dingobait was in agreement with the idea that only men can stop rape.
/r/MensRights06/03/14 07:42 PM
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The infographic from the Enliven Project has been thoroughly debunked. http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2013/01/12/the-truth-about-enlivens-2-false-accusation-figure-part-1-noh/ http://www.cotwa.info/2013/01/the-enliven-projects-truth-about-false.html
/r/MensRights05/03/14 11:02 PM
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But the problem is that we don't know if she truly doesn't remember anything from the night before. What is needed is a third party corroborating that she was falling down drunk, otherwise it's still he-said she-said.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 11:44 PM
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Your bias is showing. To answer your question, we don't know. It might have been a false allegation of rape or it could be a miscarriage of justice.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 11:38 PM
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I agree that loss of control is definitely a factor. But I think the fact that they've moved from a role of provider and become a burden also comes into play. It's impossible to know for sure what I would do in that situation, but I wouldn't want to burden my family with debt so that I could live in misery for an extra couple of years.
/r/MensRights04/03/14 11:32 PM
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I'm an MRA and I don't understand how anyone can come to the belief that people don't face discrimination as a result of their gender. I became an MRA after repeated interactions with Feminists, after which I realized that at best they would offer platitudes in regards to areas where men face discrimination because of their gender.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 05:35 PM
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You really need to work on your reading comprehension. He asked you want issues you think women face, this doesn't imply anything about his personal beliefs on the subject.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 05:31 PM
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I agree about child custody rights, the system is a mess and deeply unjust to good fathers. I am honestly at a loss as to how any man can come to believe that women are not discriminated against and that men are in our society. You are in disagreement with yourself.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 05:26 PM
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The comments are even worse than the article. I can follow their line of reasoning, but it stems from a clearly regressive idea: "Sex is an act that a man performs on a woman" So while both parties are unable to consent because they are intoxicated, the man is consenting because he's the one performing the act. The woman is just a passive object being acted upon.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 06:04 PM
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Your citation is about the situation in schools in 1833. Is it your argument that ever increasing gap between the numbers of male and female teachers is the result of pay inequity almost 200 years ago? http://www.edweek.org/media/pot2011final-blog.pdf Page 12 -- Profile of Teachers in the U.S 2011, National Center for Education Information In 1986 in K-12 education in the US, women made up 69% of teachers. By 2011, women make up 84% of K-12 teachers. Why didn't other industries follow these pion…
/r/MensRights06/02/14 10:19 PM
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I have no definitive proof, but I know of two case's where there was a birth control failure at an extremely convenient time among people I know.
/r/MensRights05/02/14 07:16 AM
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Citation needed.
/r/MensRights05/02/14 06:54 AM
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A big part of being a young nerd is often the rejection of women I think you have the cart before the horse. One of big consequences of being a young nerd is rejection by women.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 11:20 PM
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While it can be frustrating and bad for your blood pressure, the benefits outway the risks. Interacting with hardline feminists is the best way to create MRAs.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 11:02 PM
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I'm going to marry this girl, and we're debating having kids of our own at the minute, but I'm afraid. No offense, but your life sounds like way too much of a shit-storm to be considering having another child. Are you still a waiter barely making ends meet?
/r/MensRights20/01/14 04:15 PM
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Economics imply a purely rational market. No they don't. Markets reflect the people contributing to their creation and people are not rational. http://www.asx.com.au/education/investor-update-newsletter/201105-why-markets-are-irrational.htm
/r/MensRights20/01/14 04:03 PM
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It's mentioned in the article, but child support isn't supposed to be a transfer of wealth from one parent to another. Child support is not supposed to be alimony. Child support is about sharing the costs of raising a child based on the amount of time spent with each parent. Each parent should still be responsible for providing for themselves.
/r/MensRights13/01/14 09:40 PM
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Now I might be in physical danger, so I would have to say no.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 03:56 AM
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Rights are involved, but only as they play into trust. An analogy would be a woman trusting a man to keep $5 safe for her, while the man trusts the woman to keep $50 safe. The levels of trust required are different. His behavior is odd, but it's not shameful.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 12:50 AM
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Do you honestly think that men who've been the victim of spermjacking didn't trust the woman they were having sex with? Pretty sure they would have taken a different path if the suspected their partner was trying to secretly impregnate themselves. The crucial point is that the level of trust between the two partners isn't remotely equal. The woman has options after being impregnated and has the authority to make decisions. The man has no options.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 12:15 AM
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Not in the slightest. I'm not planning on secretly impregnating her, so it costs me nothing. She gets some peace of mind. Where is the downside?
/r/MensRights04/12/13 12:07 AM
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Do you have specific examples? Reddit plays weird games with voting numbers and seems to fuzz in up/down votes to prevent spam. Here's a discussion about it (jedberg is an admin): http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eaqnf/pardon_me_but_5000_downvotes_wtf_is_worldnews_for/c16r7bv
/r/MensRights02/12/13 10:12 PM
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Eugenics programs don't exactly have a stellar track record, voluntary or not.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 10:07 PM
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It's not a strawman. You're directly comparing the experiences of a rape victim and the victim of a false accusation. Correct, but nowhere did I say that being a rape victim is a walk in the park. You've misrepresented my argument, which is why it's a strawman. Ultimately a punishment is determined by three things: Severity of the crime, guilty state of mind, and consequences of the crime. Rape is much more severe than lying (however big the lie may be), both are guilty states of mind (although …
/r/MensRights02/12/13 10:03 PM
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Strawman. My argument was that being the victim of a false accusation of rape is not a walk in the park, not that there are no consequences for rape victims. Maybe you mis-read what I wrote. I said I would rather be the victim of a violent assault (beating), not the victim of a violent sexual assault (rape).
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:12 PM
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How often do you think a rape victim is turned away from an employment opportunity because of the publicity surrounding their rape? How about the victim of a false accusation of rape? At least 50 years ago, if you were falsely accused of rape, the chances of a potential employer finding out about it were remote if you left the local area. These days the electronic record of the accusation will follow you forever on the internet. As the victim of a false accusation of rape you can also be beaten …
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:03 PM
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Here's a scenario: You are concerned with how the state is discriminating against same-sex couples, so you volunteer to help some strangers out. This is why I wish the article addressed why the lesbian couple were declared unfit parents.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:51 PM
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I don't think the requirement comes from the sperm bank. It seems to be some kind of regulatory requirement.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:48 PM
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You are skirting the issue. I'm in agreement with you that the mother is abusing the system and she bears full responsibility for her actions. The question is how does the government cut her off without harming the children? Do children deserve to suffer because their parents are irresponsible scumbags? If the state withdraws it's support, would this become a case in which the children would be taken into the ward of the state? Are children in better care of the child welfare system than in the …
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:47 PM
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You are correct that it's the parents responsibility to care for their children. However, this woman is an unfit mother who's unable to meet her responsibilities. The children are innocent victims of their parents irresponsibility. It falls to the state to provide for those children. The question we should be asking is why the mother is allowed to leach off of the support that the state is providing to the children? I can understand people with children falling on hard times and needing assistan…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:27 PM
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Did you read the article? The couples doctor refused to sign a document stating they were fit to be parents. This ruled out the ability to get sperm through a sperm bank. Kansas doesn't recognise same-sex couples. I wish the article address whether the couple felt the doctor was rejecting their fitness to become parents because they were lesbians.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:13 PM
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You've never seen a woman criticised for picking a man based on his attractiveness while his personality is terrible? Or a woman attracted to a man whose attractiveness puts him out of her league?
/r/MensRights28/11/13 09:18 PM
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Seconded. The only potentially relevant part of this story would be if she isn't convicted or serves some kind of reduced sentence.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 08:54 PM
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I don't believe it to be a double standard. I've observed women being criticised for having unrealistic physical standards. This topic is practically a non-issue when compared to child custody, men's health or workplace safety. In my opinion, the only reason topics like this get brought up is to provide an outlet to complain about women.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 08:51 PM
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It's not. Both men and women are allowed to select potential mates on whatever criteria they wish. There seems to be an abundance of "woman does something I don't like, time to complain" style posts in /MR lately.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 07:11 PM
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http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fl-df/child-enfant/look-rech.asp That's a calculator put out by the Canadian government for child support. A lawyer will be able to give you a more accurate assessment. Child support is determined on a case by case basis using Federal Child Support Guidelines.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 07:03 PM
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I see a lot of people advocating attempting to get 50/50 custody of the child to save on child support. Do you people understand that caring for an infant costs money? He won't be able to rent out a spare bedroom to a roommate with a newborn living in his house. He will need to make one time purchases like a crib and there will be a variety of on going costs. He's going to need to pay for daycare when he's working and has custody. Unless we are talking about a ridiculous amount of child support,…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 03:40 PM
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Let's talk about feminism, ladies. Let's talk about sisterhood. Support. Protection. Aren't these two concepts at odds with each other? How can you participate in a movement purporting to be about gender equality, while at the same time espousing the idea that women should collectively treat each other better than they treat men?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 03:53 PM
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The scoring system is from 4 to 10. If they were using a 1 to 10 system, the average score would translate to 5.9.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 03:57 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_testing#France
/r/MensRights14/11/13 10:03 PM
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Cheating on someone is the same as domestic violence? Bullshit.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 09:18 PM
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The answers you get are going to be highly dependant on whether or not the respondents want to be fathers.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 07:59 PM
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The question is what you do after you are forced to hide the body. Do you come forward to the police or become complicit in the crime?
/r/MensRights12/11/13 07:51 PM
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I can't give you enough upvotes. There's no place for extralegal kangaroo courts in a civilized society. Criminals and criminal acts should be dealt with through the justice system.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 09:48 PM
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The logical continuation of her argument is that the responsibility for violence that occurs between two men competing over the attentions of a woman rests solely on the shoulders of women as a group. This is clearly an intellectually bankrupt argument.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 07:25 PM
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Call me crazy or naive, but I thought that rape kits took a DNA sample so they could link it to the offender. The lack of DNA evidence doesn't disprove that sex/rape occurred. A condom would eliminate the DNA evidence left behind.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 08:21 PM
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I'm not sure I see your point. You can be responsible for your own car accident, boating incident, medical crisis, etc. In life, you can only control your own actions. A marriage can fall apart if one person in it decides to make it fail.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 07:35 PM
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Other examples of planning to fail include: seat belts lifeboats health insurance bicycle helmets fire hydrants Planning ahead to mitigate potential problems is a good idea.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 02:20 PM
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The idea that women don't have agency is part of the patriarchy, ispo facto feminism is the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights31/10/13 10:16 PM
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Ignoring the content, I hate these super brief segments. They are completely superficial, don't discuss the actual topic and are basically a forum to spew sound bites.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:33 PM
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I'm also completely against vigilantism. There is a reason that a formal system of justice exists and it is weighed in favor of the defendant. To clarify, I'm going to define "false accusers" as people who knowingly make false accusations. This still leaves space for people who make accusation that are unknowingly incorrect. Here's your false dichotomy: Accuser + Conviction = Rape victim & Rapist Accuser + No Conviction = False accuser & Innocent victim The are some other potential outcomes to t…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:13 PM
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You've created a false dichotomy and a straw man. An accusation without a conviction is not necessarily a false accusation. Nobody here is advocating that all accusations of rape that don't result in a conviction should be turned around and prosecuted as false accusations.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 04:10 PM
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Where do you propose to set the baseline for mental fitness to consent while under the effects of alcohol? Side question, do you think the person who sold this women a burrito took advantage of her incapacitated state?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 03:47 PM
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A young boy simply does not care about the ins and outs of 19th century courtship rituals among upper class women. But books that boys tend to like are "problematic" in that they often discuss terrifying themes like competition and struggle and overcoming some enemy. After graduating from high school it took me almost a decade to get back into recreational reading. Margaret Atwood almost single-handedly killed my interest in fiction. These days I read at least 2-3 books a week.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 03:21 PM
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You are putting the cart before the horse. Men's Rights groups don't exist simply to oppose feminists. Men face sexual discrimination in some areas of their lives and sometimes feminists are the cause or working to increase the problem. The only solution is to actively work against feminists in these areas. For example, many MRA's feel that the "Best Interests of the Child" doctrine found in family court is simply an extension of the "Tender Years" doctrine. Women are presumed to be more fit par…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 10:07 PM
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Do you mind telling us what part of the world you are familiar with? Maybe we can find some examples closer to home.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 09:38 PM
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Ending sexism by focusing on half of the equation. You can't have a serious discussion about any kind of discrimination without investigating the impact on the other sex.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 09:12 PM
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I strongly disagree with the statistics they use to promote the idea that women are paid less for the same work as men and that society at large has an interest in keeping women underpaid to provide cheap labour. That being said, the video is promoting the ERA, which in my opinion is as gender egalitarian as it gets. Here's some arguments in opposition to the ERA that were made the last time it was being promoted. While claiming to benefit women, the ERA would actually have taken away some of wo…
/r/MensRights16/10/13 10:43 PM
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So if you are both drunk and want to be legally safe, you should just stand there with your junk out and get her to back up onto it. /s
/r/MensRights16/10/13 10:10 PM
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This is fake. The guy creating these videos stages them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpBUZLBWldc
/r/MensRights16/10/13 02:00 PM
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There isn't enough information in the article to have an informed opinion on this case. Maybe she was too drunk to consent or remember the incident until pictures of it were released publicly. It's possible that the man performing the oral sex was also too drunk to consent or remember the incident. Or it could be a case of regret after being publicly shamed. This is why we have a justice system and don't just decide on the basis of internet armchairing.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 01:51 PM
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It's a clear case of stalking and the man might be mentally ill. No plea was given and the case was continued at Glasgow Sheriff Court until next month for a psychiatric assessment.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 01:29 PM
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Public Empathy Scale Girls > Children > Boys > Women > People > Men And I think you could make the case that the positions of boys and women could be swapped.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 09:39 PM
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The woman in this story isn't responsible for herself, making her a de facto child. Maybe in cases like this, child support is properly named.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 02:16 PM
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Gender roles must have some influence the impact of being a victim of rape. I was molested by a woman as a child and feel very similarly to you about the matter. I don't think about it, but even when I do it doesn't bring up strong emotions. I'm wasn't physically damaged and the experience was unpleasant, but life can be unpleasant. I don't feel like I've lost anything or have been made less of a person. Men aren't taught to value their sexuality, so it's not a big loss when it's forcibly taken …
/r/MensRights11/10/13 02:10 PM
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The 2010 CDC NISVS report defines rape as being forcibly penetrated. It then goes on to create a separate category of "made to penetrate". This is clearly a gendered definition of rape. Rape is when you are the victim of a man. Being raped by a woman is some kind of other sexual violence. By the definitions used in that report, James Landrith would not be considered a rape victim. The CDC doesn't provide the raw numbers to do a proper and accurate analysis to compare rape by gender if you proper…
/r/MensRights11/10/13 01:52 PM
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You can add religious/cultural bigot and possibly racist. He added that “Jewish communities across Europe would be greatly afflicted to see their cultural and religious freedom impeded upon by the Council of Europe.” What about the religious and cultural freedom of Muslim communities across Europe? This isn't an acceptable argument to allow any cultural groups to violate human rights.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 03:07 PM
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Maybe you should look up the definition of non sequitur, because you are wrong. The term refers to a conclusion that is not aligned with previous premises or evidence. My previous premise was that boardgames qualify as a competitive game. Games by definition require rules and a quantifiable outcome. Explain to me where I've changed my previous premise. In the overarching game of life, an inability to breathe more often than not constitutes death. By definition, life is not a game. There are no r…
/r/MensRights08/10/13 02:37 PM
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Risk is a game where the individual players compete with each other to win. Breathing does not qualify because there are no rules to the game and no set condition to win.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 02:01 PM
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There is so much derp happening in that blog I don't even know where to start. Example: I spent some time researching filial obligations in China, and didn’t find anything that said only men have to provide for their elderly family. In fact, in July of this year a court in East China’s Jiangsu Province “made the country’s first verdict (of a new revision of an elderly rights law that demands family members to visit and care for their aged parents and provide financial support) that forced a daug…
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:55 PM
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Competitive game and motor activities don't necessarily equate to sports. Boardgames would qualify as a competitive game that require motor activities.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:43 PM
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They should just make it a concrete rectangle. I can't possibly think of a single reason to have hard edges and points on concrete safety posts. /s
/r/MensRights27/09/13 09:10 PM
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This is the classic feminist argument that correlates attempted suicide with suicide. Men are four times more likely to commit suicide than women within the US. However, women are two times more likely to attempt suicide than men after accounting for parasuicide. So basically, dead men are less important than emotionally distressed women.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 03:30 PM
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Your entire argument is special pleading. Explain to me by what logic you've decided to separate financial and nonfinancial benefits into the categories of "real benefits" and inducements. Why don't the financial benefits of marriage not count as inducements?
/r/MensRights26/09/13 02:15 PM
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'it can change as soon as women get equal pay for equal work' It should already be changed then. I'm kind of surprised that feminists are okay with the implications of grouping women and children together. Maybe I just haven't witnessed their objections to it yet?
/r/MensRights25/09/13 02:39 PM
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Summary of the original Guardian article: The existence of sexual harassment laws do not change workplace culture. While the law should protect you in theory, it might not protect you in practice. Reprisals can be difficult to prove in court. A successful court case does not give you back the career you lost. An important part of your career is to be liked and trusted by your colleagues. Everyone is different and they have different boundaries. Each personal is responsible for defining and enfor…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 06:40 PM
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In regards to point 2, can we now consider fleshlights to be a prostate cancer prevention device?
/r/MensRights24/09/13 03:11 PM
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It's definitely an interesting concept. In such a scenario, the inherent biological value of any woman would be vastly increased. Any woman regardless of whether they were immune to infection or not would need to be saved at any cost. If you flipped the script, I don't think it would play out the same way. Would the surviving women even need to save the few surviving men? Only a handful would need to survive to provide enough sperm to continue the species.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 03:05 PM
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Immigration and residency benefits require marriage. Hospitals not respecting power of attorney and health care proxy documents is well documented within the gay community. You are wrong.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 10:17 PM
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It's a theoretical study only describing half the equation. You can't study gender discrimination without considering both sexes. They also need to ask the question, "Are parents concerned with the financial status of a potential daughter-in-law?"
/r/MensRights23/09/13 07:36 PM
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Marriage is only about money. You are wrong. Marriage provides basic power of attorney, health care proxy, immigration and residency benefits, none of which are about money. Marriage is mostly about money, but there are non-financial benefits.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 07:32 PM
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I think you are wrong about the first point. She mentions near the end that they can't give him his fully pre-paid copy without some ID. It's not that she doesn't think he's old enough to buy the game, it's that his copy was paid for upfront and they need to confirm they are giving it to the right person.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 05:27 PM
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My experience is that when you press them for a more total and comprehensive definition of patriarchy, they will eventually openly state that a patriarchal society is one in which men oppress women. They define the traditional gender role as men controlling power, women being oppressed.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 01:55 PM
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Maybe this link should be added to the compilation of links on the sidebar?
/r/MensRights18/09/13 03:10 PM
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Isn't that what I just said? If we expect women to be disciplined for anti-male bigotry, we should expect men to be disciplined for anti-female bigotry.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 06:01 PM
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Becoming pregnant and getting an abortion is consistent with accepting the consequences of pregnancy. You are ignoring the context. An abortion isn't a potential consequence of sex when considered within the context of the abortion debate. Anti-choicers made the argument that women simply wanted abortion to be legalized because they didn't want to deal with the consequences of pregnancy, which would be children. At this point I think you are being willfully ignorant if you can't see the parallel…
/r/MensRights17/09/13 05:24 PM
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Exactly, justice served as far as I can tell. If this were an article about anti-male twitter posts coming from female elementary school teachers, while the school board was in the middle of a campaign to recruit more male teachers, we would be up in arms.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 04:20 PM
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If women don't want to accept the consequences of pregnancy, they should abstain from sex. If men don't want to accept the consequences of pregnancy, they should abstain from sex. The only difference is gender.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 04:15 PM
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That's because most people don't see a problem with the current system, they see a problem with the men who are no longer "manning up" and stepping up to the plate slaughter line. FTFY
/r/MensRights17/09/13 03:59 PM
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I don't follow. Women should be able to have sex and run away from the pregnancy because their body is at risk. Men should not be able to have sex and run away from the pregnancy because their body is not at risk. Why is it relevant who carries the pregnancy? What is the intersection of availability of choice and physical risk? Does the physical labour required to care for and provide for a child after birth not relevant when considering wear and damage on your body?
/r/MensRights17/09/13 03:09 PM
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If the hens in that conversation ever overheard some fellas talking in a remotely similar tone, they'd have those poor guy's hides. Except that we don't know this to be true. You'd have to make similar comments and see how they react. To do otherwise is the very definition of a strawman argument.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 03:01 PM
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And I'm saying that I've seen men get away with this kind of talk in the office as well.
/r/MensRights17/09/13 02:58 PM
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Do you understand context at all? Thanks for proving to me you just want to be able to have sex and run away of she gets pregnant(a risk you accept when you have sex). If you switch the genders, this is an argument made by anti-choice advocates when addressing abortion. The means that feminists address and refute this argument on a daily basis. Why is it now an acceptable argument when used against men?
/r/MensRights17/09/13 02:55 PM
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Generally refers to men who don't want to be fathers well before the child is born, at sometime in which the woman still has the option of abortion on the table. Men who are simply reduced to child support paychecks is another issue entirely, but I don't think there is a catch phrase for it.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 10:14 PM
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I don't think you can attribute this to women as a whole. There are both men and women sending porn through their company email, having sex in the office, visiting fetish websites, trolling for strange on Craigslist, and making inappropriate comments at work. If you feel offended, it's up to you to speak up.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 10:12 PM
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So not only do married fathers earn more than single men, but they help their wives earn more than they otherwise would - $19,000 a year more, according to the article. It seems to me that this could at least be partially explained by assuming that people who are not financially stable avoid having children.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 10:04 PM
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Women cannot simultaneously both strong, independent and responsible for their own lives while at the same time not responsible for their choices. With abortion on the table, women always have the final say over the result of a pregnancy. Kids need dads, so maybe women should choose to have them with men that want them. The state cannot force a man to become a caring father.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 09:59 PM
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I've never seen it used in this fashion and I'm a regular here. Financial abortion is a synonym for legal parental surrender. You are completely wrong. http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1173414,00.html http://emasculated.org/content/mens-reproductive-rights-and-legal-parental-surrender http://www.blogher.com/financial-abortion-option-men
/r/MensRights16/09/13 09:50 PM
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I've heard this argument before, except the last time it was directed at women trying to get abortions. Maybe you should just close your legs if you don't want to accept the risk of pregnancy you trollop.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 09:46 PM
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The context is different. One of them is funny because it's implicitly understood it's wrong. The very offensiveness of the joke is what makes it funny. Try to imagine a funny TV scenario acted out where the punchline is that a woman gets raped. If you can't understand the difference, there's no helping you. Explain to me how the context is the same, otherwise I won't be repeating myself a third time.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 09:05 PM
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Let me know when you see a TV show physically depict a woman being raped for humorous effect.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 08:32 PM
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The definition I gave was just my own off the cuff definition. Taking us right back to the start, where I stated: Are you implying that there is a single unified definition of rape culture that everyone accurately uses? There is no singular definition of rape culture, so it's inappropriate to claim that MRAs are against all definitions of rape culture. Rape jokes indicate a certain amount of tolerance to rape of women in the culture, its obvious an environment that jokes about a crime is more fr…
/r/MensRights16/09/13 08:22 PM
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Point out to me where in your definition is the requirement for tolerance. Rape culture from what I can see, is any cultural attitude or belief that increases the likelihood of rape happening. Do you understand that you are basically making the same argument that was made about Marilyn Manson and school shootings? I think we can talk about this in circles forever because we are just discussing opinions. You'd have to show me some studies correlating people who make or listen to rape jokes versus…
/r/MensRights16/09/13 07:26 PM
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This line of discussion has now met our other conversation. Maybe we should just continue it there?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 07:10 PM
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It doesn't matter if it shows outward tolerance or acceptance. All it has to do is contribute to the likelihood that a rape will happen. It shows that our society has lots of women getting raped, but very few convictions. Don't you think that spreading this idea increases the likelihood of rape?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 07:08 PM
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Its logical to assume that rapists (or any criminal) would be more psychologically comfortable to do what they do in an environment where what they do is joked about. I'm guessing the source for this is your ass. Why not assume that rapists feel more comfortable raping in an environment where they don't think they will get caught?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 07:05 PM
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The posters show intolerance, It shows outward intolerance, but it also shows our inability as a society to combat it. It shows that it's incredibly common, but I don't know anyone who's been convicted of rape. This must mean there are lots of men getting away with it. jokes obviously show a certain amount of tolerance. Now that depends on the content of the joke, doesn't it? You are making an assumption that by joking about a subject you are giving tacit approval of the subject. There are fewer…
/r/MensRights16/09/13 06:58 PM
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If popular entertainment in the culture involving murder isn't an example of culture involving murder, or "murder culture" what is it then? It's popular entertainment. It doesn't increase the likelihood of murder. This is why rape jokes aren't rape culture by the definition you provided, they must increase the likelihood of rape to qualify. Why do you disagree that a rapist can have an easier time justifying their behaviour to themselves if other people are joking about it, it seems perfectly re…
/r/MensRights16/09/13 06:48 PM
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As a predator, couldn't you extrapolate from the posters that rape is very common. This is a much stronger message than a joke or comment, it is statistical proof of the way our society operates. Regardless of which is worse, do you consider both to be part of rape culture?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 06:35 PM
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I wholeheartedly disagree. You can literally play a video game in which you murder virtual representations of people. This isn't an example of murder culture. These video games don't increase the likelihood that a murder will take place. If one gamer says to the other, "I killed the shit out of you", it's not going to increase the likelihood of murder or create a cultural perception that killing people is okay. But if that same gamer says, "You got raped", this is rape culture and women are goin…
/r/MensRights16/09/13 06:09 PM
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You think telling a rape joke increases the likelihood of rape happening?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 04:56 PM
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How do you determine who's an anti-feminist? Feminism can be anti-feminist. If you are an anti-porn feminist, do you consider pro-porn feminists to be anti-feminist? If you are trans-feminist, do you consider radical or separatist feminists to be anti-feminist?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 04:56 PM
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Rape culture from what I can see, is any cultural attitude or belief that increases the likelihood of rape happening. Unfortunately this isn't the only working definition. Here's an example. Rape culture. It's a phrase you hear a lot. But, what exactly does it mean? Is there one general definition? Not necessarily. In many ways the phrase evokes the famous Supreme Court comment about obscenity from Potter Stewart, "I know it when I see it." And, you don't have to look far to see examples of rape…
/r/MensRights16/09/13 04:49 PM
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Are you implying that there is a single unified definition of rape culture that everyone accurately uses? There is a vast gulf between describing cultural attitudes towards prison rape as a just punishment for criminals and oversized CGI breasts in video games. I've seen both described as rape culture. My experience is that the term rape culture, like misogyny, is basically used as a slur, usually to imply that someone is "pro-rape". I think this the source of friction from MRAs.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 03:15 PM
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After reading your comment I just realized I don't have any male friends from such families either.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 02:25 PM
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If you are looking for sexual assault statistics, the CDC NISVS 2010 is a great place to start. When a man is raped by a woman, it is categorized as being "made to penetrate", but the definition is clearly rape. 1 in 21 men report being "made to penetrate" in their lifetime. 79.2% reported only female perpetrators in this scenario. 1 in 71 men report being raped in their lifetime. 93.3% reported only male perpetrators in this scenario.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 08:36 PM
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An Associated Press study found that nearly nine out of 10 teachers disciplined for allegations of sexual misconduct are men Followed by: We’re used to worrying about men ... It’s the unthreatening fantasy of the female teacher with an unbuttoned blouse that dominates headlines and late-night talk show monologues. Do you think these two things might be related?
/r/MensRights13/09/13 04:17 PM
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I think it's a matter of the default assumptions some men make about the fictional rapist. They play through the scenario in their heads and assume the woman "raping" them is someone they actually want to have sex with. This clearly changes the dynamic of the scenario into semi-consensual sex. I'm not a woman, but it seems like this same scenario is a recurring trope in harlequin romance novels. The woman secretly desires the man and the man just takes her like an animal without her outwardly ex…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 09:59 PM
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4th wave feminism -- men are people too?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 09:42 PM
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They know the real reason is bullshit (everyone else does it or space daddy doesn't like foreskin), so they are grasping at straws.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 09:06 PM
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The answer is sexual discrimination.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 09:01 PM
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Read it more closely and I was wrong, sorry. I think I got lost because there are no gender pronouns anywhere (which is praise worthy), my brain must just be trained to try to follow them. Morgan obtains non-verbal consent from Kai to perform oral sex. When Kai reciprocates, they don't obtain non-verbal consent. I still wouldn't count that as non consensual sex until Morgan indicates non consent.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 08:59 PM
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Did you miss that they are categorizing non-verbal consent as non consensual sex? I have to disagree that it's not subjective. It's not always clear who's performing and who's receiving the act. There's not clear boundaries between acts either. If I receive consent to provide oral sex, do I need to obtain consent for nipple play? What if I add in digital manipulation?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 07:58 PM
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I don't think you are going to find anyone here who supports beating women (excluding trolls). I expect you'll find a bunch of MRAs who think that people shouldn't be hitting each other at all, with a subset of MRAs who think people should only be hitting each other in self defense. for fear of even being wrongfully associated with those "beatingwomen" assholes People are going to make that accusation regardless of whether that subreddit exists or not. It's easier to attack someones character th…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 06:56 PM
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Exactly. Another reason not to include stereotypical assumptions is to include homosexual sexual harassment. Men can sexually harass men, women can sexually harass women.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 06:45 PM
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It's understandable. You must find yourself to be in conflict with other feminist perspectives then quite often (anarchist feminism, marxist feminism, anti-porn feminism, separatist feminism, etc).
/r/MensRights12/09/13 06:38 PM
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I haven't seen many women who run domestic violence or sexual assault centers that don't self identify as feminists. I would count them as been more influential on the topic than some random blogger. What/who would you count as a "true" feminist source on this topic?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 04:18 PM
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I should have been more specific. Historically boys have outperformed girls in math and science, whereas girls outperformed boys in reading.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 04:08 PM
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I don't know how long you've been a regular on this forum, but I find that the various issues seem to go through rotations. When the CDC NISVS 2010 survey came out, there was a lot more discussion about the prevalence of male rape victims. It might seem like a lot of false rape accusation talk now, but I would expect it to cycle out eventually as people get tired of discussing the topic over and over. I don't think you'll find many MRAs who deny the existence of gender roles. But gender roles an…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 03:53 PM
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You shouldn't expect to see women's issues balanced against men's issues in a men's rights forum. I don't expect to see feminists discussing a lot of what is talked about in their circles. The reality of the situation is that they are focused on issues mainly affecting women. You might think I'm arguing for the sake of arguing, but I'm being quite selective about the content of our discussion. We could have an argument about patriarchy, feminism and how I believe that certain men's issues stem d…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 03:18 PM
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Starvation and disease are bigger issues than both of these. Rape just isn't on the radar. I find it quite telling that you focus on rape instead of the larger and more gender neutral issues. This is evidence you are a female supremacist. Am I playing the game properly? 1 in 50,000, however, just doesn't put the issue on my radar. This is dishonest, your argument is that it shouldn't be anyone's concern, not that it's just personally not important to you. The issue is that people like you want t…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:22 PM
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You don't consider these examples of laws being applied only to a single gender? If a law was passed to allow only men the right to vote (regardless of reason), this is clearly an example of a law written for a single gender's usage.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:15 PM
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You are forgetting his original statement. Any law new or old was never put into law for a singe gender's usage till recently How is this possibly true if men could vote before women? A law was passed to allow men to vote, but not women. Clearly this is an example of a historical law put in place to be used only by a single gender.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:14 PM
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You would have to be continuously re-signing the contracts as well, because you can always change your mind mid-act.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:10 PM
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If you don't understand what's onerous about it, I'm not sure I can explain it in a meaningful way because I don't believe you understand human interaction at all. Kai: "Morgan, do I have permission to initiate physical contact on your clitoris with my mouth?" Morgan: "Affirmative, on the condition that there is no contact with your teeth." Kai: "Morgan, requesting clearance to manipulate my tongue in counter-clockwise circle." Morgan: "Denied, up and down motions only." It also artificially div…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:07 PM
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Do you need me to find you articles describing how the gendered difference in math scores was originally attributed to innate biological differences? Am I dating myself when I can remember the outrage over that talking Barbie who spouted out phrases when you pulled her string and one of them was "Math is hard"?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 01:51 PM
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Both of these issues are serious problems. Sexual dehumanization has been linked to not only depression and mental illness, but also direct victimization. Things are worse for Middle Eastern women, so it's a problem that should get more attention. But both of these issues are vastly more endemic than false rape accusations. I don't think you even comprehend my point, because you basically doubled down on the same argument. Issue X is more important than issue Y, therefore we should ignore Y. I c…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 01:41 PM
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Any law new or old was never put into law for a singe gender's usage till recently This is demonstrably false. English common law turned married women into dependents, with their husbands mandated to be their care givers. This legal definition of marriage lasted into the 1850s in the US. If there were no historical laws applying to a single gender, why did men and women get the right to vote at different times in the US?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 12:40 AM
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No, my argument is that once again it's not a proper comparison. If there are 2,500 incidents of false rape accusation, you can't draw a parallel to voter fraud where there are practically 0 incidents. you choose to play on peoples fundamental distrust of women This is your opinion, not fact. In my experience, people show a fundamental trust of women and a distrust of men. Men are viewed as dirty sex driven predators while women are helpless damsels in need of constant protection. I find it iron…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 10:49 PM
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I think a lot of the rustled jimmies stemmed from her TED talk about the book. She came across as being quite pleased that men were doing poorly in relation to women. However, it's tough to draw solid conclusions on her motivations based on a single speech. The content itself didn't seem to be anything new to the MRM. I love the sexism coming from the comments section. Remember when girls were doing worse than boys in school? This was clearly evidence of gender discrimination. However, now that …
/r/MensRights11/09/13 10:38 PM
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"Morgan moves as if to engage in oral sex and looks up at Kai questioningly. Kai nods in agreement and Morgan proceeds. Subsequently, without pausing to check for further agreement, Kai begins to perform oral sex on Morgan." According to Yale, "Kai" is a guilty of having had nonconsensual sex, a term that most people would consider to be rape. Yet the new document notes that a student like Kai--who according to Yale actually was guilty of having taken "no steps to obtain unambiguous agreement" B…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 09:57 PM
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I haven't addressed the numbers you are using because it's not relevant to the fact that you are comparing apples to oranges to make up some random ratio. I can easily dispute the .125% number, by disputing your rate of false reporting. There's been more than 2 studies done on the rate of false reporting of rape. This isn't relevant to your last point either. Why, when this is so rare, do MRAs feel the need to put out public service announcements against false rape allegations? I did address thi…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 09:45 PM
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"For so many boys especially in positions of race privilege or gender privilege for something or another reason, there is a feeling of 'I get to do whatever I want because the other person is not telling me that this is a problem." Can it really be called privilege when it provides no benefit within the context? If you are a boy in school, academically you are not in a position of privilege.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 05:28 PM
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I have to ask you the same question, did you read what you wrote? That means that in 2011, .0024% of the male population was falsely accused of rape. Multiply this by 50, and you get the rough likelihood that you will ever get falsely accused of rape to the police, which is a 0.125% chance. This is your estimate of the chance of a man being falsely accused of rape to the police. This study found that less than 20% of rapes are reported to the police.[3] So your 4.3% becomes 21-28%, which is more…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 03:04 PM
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You are making the same mistake you originally made. You are comparing an estimate of the total number of rapes to the total number of false accusations made to the police. This is not a fair comparison. This is like comparing the total number of red apples worldwide, to the number of green apples in farms. When you compare reported rapes to falsely reported rape accusations and assume that women are rape victims and men are rapists, the ratio between the two depends almost entirely on the perce…
/r/MensRights11/09/13 02:01 PM
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I look forward to it.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:39 PM
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You haven't included your sources, but I believe I can see a couple places you are making errors. To start with, you are basically comparing "estimated total rapes" to "total rapes reported to police". By doing this you must assume that rape accusations are only damaging if they involve the police. A quick look at the quasi-judicial hearings being done on post secondary campuses in the US shows this assumption to be patently false. It also seems problematic to guess-timate false rape accusations…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 10:00 PM
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One of us is trying and it's not you.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 06:58 PM
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I can think of some problems with implementation. What happens if you are a mother with her son? At what age is your son no longer allowed to accompany in the segregated car? Also, what percentage of ridership on the train is women? For example, will the train end up with 2 cars jam packed full of men, with a third car half full of just women who all have seats?
/r/MensRights10/09/13 06:57 PM
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I don't need to take responsibility for the actions of historical men, as the concept of "Original Sin" is immoral. If your mother was a serial killer, do you need to take responsibility for her actions? Yes, of course. As much as I possibly could. Should you be punished or jailed because of your mothers actions? I'd go to jail for my own mother, of course. I'd also help take responsibility for her actions in any way that would be helpful. By extension you believe yourself to be responsible for …
/r/MensRights10/09/13 06:29 PM
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Non-sequitur.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 06:21 PM
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You have such a childish view of women that it's amazing. I'm just waiting for you to compare the oppression of women and traditional gender roles to slavery.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 01:28 PM
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It's the logical extension of your own belief system. You think you inherit culpability and guilt from your parents. They inherit it from their parents, and so on until you draw your lineage directly to the historical creators of patriarchy. This is your belief system. It's not my fault if you think it's horrible.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 01:19 PM
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Some states have laws on the books protecting unborn fetuses as children, except in the instance of abortion. I'm adamantly pro-choice, but the cognitive dissonance is mind boggling. Apparently human rights are derived in the womb by your mother wanting you.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 10:57 PM
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Remee Jo Lee, 26, says if John Andrew Welden gets out of jail she's afraid he'll come after her. If his goal was to kill her and the fetus, he would have killed two birds with the same stone. "I don't know why he did this," she said at a restraining order hearing last month. "I don't know why he hates me so much. I don't know why this was so bad to have this baby with me." He didn't want a child. You were the final goalkeeper and decided to go ahead with having a child he didn't want. He didn't …
/r/MensRights09/09/13 10:53 PM
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That does not make men and women equally culpable for the historic oppression of women. You are moving the goalposts. This all started with the comment that implied that men alone were responsible for gender roles and patriarchy. Now you are stating that women have some culpability. I never argued that the responsibility was equal, just that it was disingenuous to pretend that historically women had no influence on shaping gender roles or perpetuating them. You should feel ashamed for writing th…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 09:45 PM
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What I will not do is blame any particular group for their own systematic oppression. By its very definition, it's systematic and to the benefit of others. By your own admission you are responsible for the "systematic oppression" of various groups by your genetic lineage. This can be extended to everyone alive, so all women are responsible for their own oppression.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 08:12 PM
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By extension you believe yourself to be responsible for the actions of your father? What about your grandmother or grandfather? If you believe you inherit culpability then you are responsible for patriarchy and gender roles. Again, I think this belief is immoral. I'm just pointing out the logical conclusion to your ideas.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:07 PM
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In what way are you responsible for the actions of your mother? Should you be punished or jailed because of your mothers actions?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 04:42 PM
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I don't think anyone here would disagree that there is a historical basis for gender roles. I think it's disingenuous at best to pretend that women were historically exempted from any part of the creation of these roles or enforcing them. You can't draw the same parallel with religious groups, as there isn't some overarching system of religious roles. I don't need to take responsibility for the actions of historical men, as the concept of "Original Sin" is immoral. If your mother was a serial ki…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:46 PM
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This is fairly common and has some "hilarious" side effects. Was working late and my GF met up with me at the office before we headed out on a date. She needed to use the bathroom, but I don't know the combination to the door lock, so she had to use the men's room while I stood "guard" at the door. Had a meeting with some clients in a boardroom. One of the clients needed to use the bathroom, once again I don't know the combination to the door. The receptionist on the floor was away from her desk…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 10:48 PM
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What I'm saying is that pretending that women have been automatons throughout history with zero input into gender roles is intellectually bankrupt. Let's say that historically, women were completely without free will, commanded around by men like robots. Feminism and women's liberation comes along. At what point do women become partially responsible for continuing to perpetuate gender roles? It seems that according to yourself and /u/HokesOne, the answer is never. It's the fault of men long sinc…
/r/MensRights06/09/13 10:24 PM
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Great article.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 09:13 PM
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Everything in the article and most of the comments here are just begging for citations. Women were respected leaders of the community 100,000 years ago? CITATION NEEDED. There were no female leaders 100,000 years ago? CITATION NEEDED. 80% of the diet was from gathering 100,000 years ago? CITATION NEEDED. Just think about the vast time period we are talking about. Could you make sweeping statements about all of human culture today that apply to human culture 100 years ago? What about 1000 years? …
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:38 PM
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Some feminists admit to bias against men in family court, however they believe the bias is "because they are reflecting the patriarchal notion that men are not meant to be caregivers and that women are not mean to breadwinners." It's not sexism against men, it's sexism against women. Nevermind the fact that men are the ones who are having their children stripped away from them while being handed a bill.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:23 PM
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Just ask them, women "don't lie about these kind of things" so they will simply incriminate themselves. /s
/r/MensRights05/09/13 07:56 PM
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Wherever you stand on abortion, it's extremely hard to understand why the Crown Prosecution Service has decided not to press criminal charges against doctors who agreed to arrange terminations because of the sex of the unborn baby. Let me hold your hand and guide you to the answer. How do you prove an abortion is being performed because of the sex of the baby? Who is going to be asking pregnant women the reasoning behind their wish to get an abortion? Are women so stupid or honest that they will…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 07:51 PM
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Adoption is difficult for families, more difficult for single mothers and even more difficult for single fathers. My understanding is that the public system is very slow, filled with case evaluations with social workers who may discriminate against you (openly or secretly). In the private system you have the challenge of finding a mother who's open-minded enough to approve of a single male parent. Surrogacy is a risk for men. Surrogacy agreements are not legally binding (at least in my country).…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 06:22 PM
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Women can participate, but not actively create. Maybe you should look at what you are writing within the context of minimizing and erasing the contributions of women? Men are actors, women are objects. Women who make the "wrong" decisions only do so because of the influence of men. Do you have anything to add to the conversation that isn't inherently misogynistic?
/r/MensRights05/09/13 06:00 PM
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So your argument is that women are absolved from participating in the patriarchy because of the patriarchy? Sounds like a real winner.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:30 PM
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women (or feminism for that matter) didn't invent the myth of male stoicism, anticipated consent, or the expectation of hyper-libido. Women, no longer participating members of society or patriarchy. BULLSHIT.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:22 PM
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Needs some context, because I have no idea what the hell they are talking about.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 02:01 PM
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Women lie just like people in general lie.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 08:56 PM
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The implication is that it's like not wearing a condom, which by default reduces the sensation. There is a subtle difference between minimizing the negative sensation of condoms for men, and maximizing the positive sensation of condoms for women.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 02:14 PM
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This was covered by my local news. Walter Gray (the Mayor of Kelowna) was "in on the stunt". It also sounds like she was wearing pasties (or something else) and wasn't completely nude.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:23 PM
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What if I were to tell you a story about how my personal experience with women in the workforce is that they underperformed and just couldn't cut it. So going forward, I discriminate against women when hiring. You can't judge me, because it's my own personal experience? Bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disabilit…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 03:02 PM
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Close, she's saying that because men make up the majority of perpetrators of rape that all men are bad.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 02:09 PM
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You admit bad experiences with men influenced you to become bigoted towards all men, then you explain that your hatred of men fuels your feminism. As a white person, if told you that I had some bad experiences with black people and they need to prove to me they are good people before I trust them, I would be considered a white supremacist. You are a female supremacist.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 02:07 PM
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It's exactly what it sounds like. Capitalism equals Patriarchy. Marxist feminism is a sub-type of feminist theory which focuses on the social institutions of private property and capitalism to explain and criticize gender inequality and oppression. According to Marxist feminists, private property gives rise to economic inequality, dependence, political and domestic struggle between the sexes, and is the root of women's oppression in the current social context.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 02:02 PM
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BuffytheReasonableFeminist Wed 21-Aug-13 09:35:14 Basil once again, in theory 50:50 contact could and should be a positive thing for everyone. If, if IF the man is a good, involved, caring parent. The problem, of course, comes when the man isn't, and this type of contact is bad for the children. Unfortnuately, I assume that most men in this situation don't see that so much contact with them isn't the best thing for their kids and instead convince themselves that their "rights" have been trampled…
/r/MensRights21/08/13 02:39 PM
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The biggest problem is that there will be a point where there are more people retired then working. Lots of these programs work like de facto pyramid schemes using tax dollars. In the US, this might not be as big of a deal because of the relative lack of social programs for the elderly.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 01:44 PM
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No problem, thanks for getting back to us.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:47 PM
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Is this a reverse NAFALT argument? All Feminists Are Like That? There are very real divisions within feminism. Do you think sex-positive feminists aren't real feminists because they disagree with anti-porn feminists? Why is this different when applied to SRS or AMR?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 03:45 PM
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They must have a script running. Pretty sure I was banned for this post.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 03:23 PM
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Someone asked that very thing in the comments and she put up a response. “He’s not like most/other guys” is almost, if not just as, common. This may well be true. Many men do suffer from the gender binary that dictates a set definition of masculinity, whilst also conditioning men to reject any inherently “feminine” qualities; note feminine qualities in this case would be defined as inherently weak qualities. Many young men struggle through their teens because their identity doesn’t fit within so…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 02:48 PM
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Doubtful. I just got banned from both /r/Feminism and /r/AskFeminists for this post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/1kmuyf/convince_me_rfeminism/cbqxu04
/r/MensRights20/08/13 02:21 PM
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Are you Canadian? I would put the average US voter solidly on the right in the Canadian political spectrum. I don't find the Democrats in the US to be very different than the Conservative party in Canada (except that the Conservatives support public healthcare).
/r/MensRights20/08/13 02:11 PM
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The rate of non-paternity is commonly quoted to be around 10%. However, a 2005 scientific review of international published studies of paternal discrepancy found a range in incidence from 0.8% to 30% (median 3.7%), suggesting that the widely quoted figure of 10% of non-paternal events is an overestimate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-paternity_event The rate is ~2-3%, except in cases where men are disputing paternity where it's ~30%.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 02:06 PM
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I understand what tables you are using, but you glossed straight over what I wrote. The problem is that you are comparing two different categories. One is individual female rape victims while the other is individual male incidents of rape (listed as made to penetrate). You are comparing 1,270,000 estimated female victims of rape with 1,267,000 estimated individual instances of rape where men were the victims. There is a difference between the two, as you can be a rape victim but have been raped …
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:02 PM
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The problem is that you are comparing two different categories. One is individual female rape victims while the other is individual male incidents of rape (listed as made to penetrate). You'll notice that the categories of estimated completed rape, attempted rape and drug induced rape add up to more than the total estimate of rape. This is because you can be raped more than once, but still only qualify as a single rape victim. The other problem is that because of the dishonest way the CDC has ge…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 04:02 PM
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Except that you are propagating factually inaccurate statistics. Feel free to link the 2010 CDC NISVS report as your source and I'll point out where you've gone wrong interpreting the data.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:53 PM
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http://www.back2stonewall.com/2013/08/femen-activist-arrested-sweden-russian-embassy-protest.html I'm guessing this was the story you were trying to link. They were arrested for attempting to break into the Russian embassy, not for being feminists. You'll notice the other 200 protesters were not arrested.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:48 PM
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The average american is probably centre right leaning. In regards to the US, Canadian, or Western political spectrum?
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:40 PM
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/r/legaladvice/ is probably a better place to find advice for this question.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:13 PM
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Women should take precautions to protect themselves = All men are rapists Only men can stop rape and/or Don't be that guy != All men are rapists
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:10 PM
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Look at how many guys apologized for something they didn't do. "I'm sorry I touched your ass."
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:38 PM
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When I select technology to use and/or purchase, I research and exclude those developed by minorities and women. /sarcasm
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:33 PM
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Nobody has the right to forbid others to look at them in a public space or the right to forbid others to think about them.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:28 PM
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I can find the video where Healthyaddict describes her assault, but can't seem to locate Mr. Deity's version of the events. You able to provide a link?
/r/MensRights15/08/13 03:05 PM
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This is off topic, but I love the hypocrisy of sperm donors and child support. A man can relinquish his parental rights by donating his to a second party, who then sells the sperm to a third party. Genetically, the child conceived is his, but he's not responsible for support. This is considered to be in the "best interests of the child". A man has sex with a woman. A child is conceived that is genetically his, he is responsible for support. This is considered to be in the "best interests of the …
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:13 PM
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You are arguing against a straw man. I have never said it was right, just that I can understand why someone would take the law into their own hands when there are no authorities, due process, or investigations.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:19 PM
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It's an attempt to get justice when you believe the authorities can't provide it. Otherwise it would be just assault and you wouldn't have to qualify it with vigilantism.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 10:17 PM
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"Vigilante justice" is rationalized by the idea that adequate legal mechanisms for criminal punishment are either nonexistent or insufficient. Vigilantes typically see government as ineffective in enforcing the law; and such individuals often presume to justify their actions as fulfillment of the wishes of "the community". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante I don't disagree with you that the proper rule of law is obviously the much better choice. The whole point of the justice system is to e…
/r/MensRights13/08/13 09:51 PM
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I don't think most people understand how bad it is in Detroit. In the last 10 years, Detroit has lost 25% of it's population. One-third of Detroit's 140 square miles is either vacant or derelict. 47 percent of the residents of the city of Detroit are functionally illiterate. Only 1/3 of the cities ambulances work. There's been a 40% policing staff reduction in the last 10 years. Most police stations in Detroit are only open 16 hours a day. The violence crime rate is five times the national avera…
/r/MensRights13/08/13 09:45 PM
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Exactly my point. So far most of the responses so far seem to be unable to differentiate between understanding the lawless state that exists in Detroit with implicitly approving of it.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 09:26 PM
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Maybe they think he's guilty as well? Maybe it's because his family is only a couple people and they would be torn apart by an outraged mob? Understanding a line of thought doesn't mean approving of it.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 09:22 PM
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Vigilantism is a form of justice, it's just a very poor one. You would be wrong to assume the citizens involved are acting without some evidence. They are acting without a thorough investigation of all the evidence. Neither of us are living in their situation, so it's easy to say how you think you would act. How many years of living without the rule of law, watching crimes repeatedly go unpunished do you think it would take before you changed your mind?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 09:20 PM
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Just because I can understand their line of thought, doesn't mean I agree with it. Neither of us live in a city where there basically is no rule of law.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 09:16 PM
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Is child care much more expensive for newborns than a 9 month old? Because you are still facing the same dilemma, it's just further down the road. Either someone stays at home, or you go back to work and pay someone else to take care of the child.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 08:06 PM
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Sycophant noun a self-seeking, servile flatterer; fawning parasite. see Hugo Schwyzer
/r/MensRights13/08/13 07:51 PM
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Correlation != causation I can see the cause and effect of paternal leave on the birth rate. It makes it financially easier to have a child, because your loss of income is lessened. I don't see how it can affect the decision to rejoin the workforce or stay at home. You either need the income or you don't.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 07:38 PM
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What options do you have left if there is no functional justice system? Just sit there and allow crime to happen with no repercussions?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 07:31 PM
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The article implies that because the US doesn't have maternity leave women choose not to return to the workforce. You think it's a good article, I would love to hear your reasoning on how the two are related. Also, parental leave is a good thing. Maternity leave is discriminatory.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:39 PM
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Part of maternity leave is the expectation that you will be coming back to work. This doesn't apply to people who decide to stay out of the workforce after having children. Explain the reasoning behind working, becoming pregnant, giving birth, and then choosing not to come back to work because you weren't compensated for maternity leave. At best this is an argument for reasons people choose not to become parents. They can't afford the costs associated with not working.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:37 PM
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Care to explain how having no paid maternity leave causes women to choose to stay out of the work force? Maternity should be paternity parental leave. And it has nothing to do with choosing not to work. EDIT: Should have wrote parental not paternity.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:24 PM
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This might not be the best example of this kind of behavior. Detroit effectively has no police force. The victim in this story is 15 and has Downs Syndrome. That pretty much rules out consent. It took 7 hours for the hospital to administer a rape kit. The police didn't interview the victim for 5 days. The police took 21 days just to send the rape kit to the Michigan State Police Crime Lab, because Detroit closed their own crime lab back in 2008. In 2012, they found that they just left unprocesse…
/r/MensRights13/08/13 02:18 PM
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Men are shamed for being virgins, women are shamed for being sexually active. You don't think that society has gender roles when it comes to both sexes?
/r/MensRights12/08/13 02:15 PM
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I live in a country where the RCMP investigated an alleged rape, found there wasn't enough evidence for a conviction and closed the case. Public outrage from feminists and Anonymous got them to reopen and reinvestigate the case and they found there still wasn't enough evidence for a conviction, so they decided to charge the two of the accused who were roughly the same age as the accuser with child pornography. Sounds like justice to me.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 10:44 PM
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I'd go with the chorus of "I know you want it". It seems to me this interpretation ignores the context of the rest of the song which is the good girl / slut dichotomy (aka. slut shaming). The Pink song doesn't support domestic violence. There is a difference between imagined violence and committing violence.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 10:32 PM
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You need to start living in the real world. You are making some assumptions: the jury won't be racially biased against you the jury won't assume guilt because you are being brought to trial the jury won't be influenced by the moral outrage of the crime your are being prosecuted with the people prosecuting you won't withhold evidence the people prosecuting you won't tamper with evidence your attorney is competent Innocent people are still convicted during trials. There would be no need for the In…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 10:15 PM
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This is how the legal system works. They have all the leverage unless you are wealthy. If you are a minority, you have it worse.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 09:57 PM
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I can understand why there isn't a drive for "men in teaching". There shouldn't be a drive for anyone in teaching. In Canada the unemployment rate among new teachers is really high. And this isn't a problem that going to fix itself any time soon. The population is aging, not enough teachers are reaching retirement age and there aren't enough new kids being born to require more teachers. However, the opposite is true to nursing. The aging population means there is going to be a boom in the need f…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 07:17 PM
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How would you know they are feminists? Doesn't exactly seem like an appropriate interview question. As a job applicant, I wouldn't work anywhere they were asking questions about my political or ideological beliefs.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 07:04 PM
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Yet thinking with your genitals is still somehow gendered stereotype.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 07:01 PM
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Correct, but that's not exactly the same as running out and saying women are nearly half of all perpetrators.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:28 PM
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There is another categorical error that's more significant. They are comparing total rape victims to individual incidents of made to penetrate. When you look at Tables 2.1 and 2.2, you'll see that their totals for Completed, Attempted and Completed Alcohol/Drug assisted rape vastly exceed the total for Rape. This is because the Rape column is the number of individual victims, not incidents.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 04:28 PM
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I don't believe it to be accurate. I've outlined my reasoning here. The TL;DR is that the CDC didn't provide the raw numbers required to determine the gender of the perpetrators properly and while being forced to penetrate should be considered rape, you can't draw direct comparisons because the "Rape" numbers are total victims while the "Made to Penetrate" numbers are total incidents.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 04:11 PM
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23.6% of men reported being raped/sexually assaulted/forced to penetrate /u/JessJezzz accounted for the made to penetrate numbers, but I'm not sure they did it properly. Accounting for the made to penetrate / rape division, you find: Male Victims Lifetime: 7,032,000 12 Month: 1,267,000 Female Victims Lifetime: 21,840,000 12 Month: 1,270,000 So men make up 24.4% of all lifetime rape victims and 49.9% of all rape victims in the last 12 months. I'm guessing this is where they came up with the 50% v…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 04:05 PM
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[–]dcolt 25 points (+29/-3) 3 hours ago /u/selfdownvoterguy nailed it. She's not saying this because she feels violated, she's saying it to get back at you for breaking off with her. AND she's saying this because she knows this is the cheap shot that is most likely to mess with your head. Because that's how abusive people do. Women don't lie about rape, unless they are accusing other women.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 01:48 PM
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You want to know how I know you are a gender ideologue? You keep misrepresenting the severity of the assault and making excuses for the clear perpetrator. Then you repeatedly imply that I feel this way because he's a man. I think he's a scumbag. I've been in emotionally charged situations and I've never beaten the crap out of anyone. If the genders were reversed and Rihanna laid that beating on Chris Brown I would think the same way. The world hates Chris Brown because they don't think his apolo…
/r/MensRights07/08/13 11:20 PM
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Have you ever seen a court proceeding where a murder victims family forgives the killer? Do you think this washes away the stigma of murder in the eyes of the public? I don't hold Rihanna's judgement in very high regard either, so the fact that she forgave him means nothing to me. You also seem to be able to read the mind of Chris Brown, implying that he was injured, provoked and/or justified in his assault: you could tell that Chris Brown, out of courtesy for Rihanna was holding back and keepin…
/r/MensRights07/08/13 09:23 PM
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Thats not exactly true. They seem to be saying that the Female Underprediction Effect (FUE) is correlated with Conscientiousness (which is determined through a self reported questionnaire about thoroughness, carefulness, and self-discipline). You could just as easily say that women believe they are better students because they get better subjective grades from teachers. This leads to FUE (expecting better results on objective tests).
/r/MensRights07/08/13 09:08 PM
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Copy/paste background: In psychology, the Big Five personality traits are five broad domains or dimensions of personality that are used to describe human personality.The Big Five factors are openness, conscientiousness, extraversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism. Cross-cultural research has shown some patterns of gender differences on responses to the Big Five Inventory. For example, women consistently report higher Neuroticism, Agreeableness, warmth (an extraversion facet) and openness to fee…
/r/MensRights07/08/13 08:59 PM
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Two people know what happened in that car. One of them was beaten black and blue. If Chris Brown was injured in any way (outside the damage his fists took) maybe his lawyer/publicist should have made that evidence public. I think the world would stop constantly criticizing him if he took the situation seriously, instead of white washing it as if it was some kind of small "misunderstanding" or "mistake".
/r/MensRights07/08/13 08:09 PM
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Women have de facto legal parental surrender. They name paternity and are covered by both safe haven and adoption laws. A father can't disrupt this process unless he learns he actually is a father.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 08:01 PM
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While it's impossible to be 100% anonymous, it is possible to make it extremely difficult to be located. Proxys, VPNs and free public Wi-Fi make it very difficult to track down a source. And this assumes you are located in a country that's willing to allow extradition of it's citizens because they posted something inflammatory that another nation has deemed illegal.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 07:42 PM
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There are steps you can take to obscure your IP. The easiest would be to use a free Wi-Fi connection.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 07:35 PM
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Good? I agree entirely with one of the comments in the article: I made a mistake once. I forgot to pay my Capitol One card by the due date before I set it up for auto-pay. Oops. Now committing felony battery on the other hand? Pretty sure that doesn't count as a "mistake".
/r/MensRights07/08/13 07:32 PM
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The problem is that even if you are breaking the law, you can't really be caught unless you are not anonymous and also living within the jurisdiction of the country whose laws you are breaking.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 07:23 PM
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I don't believe you've thought this through. 1) Set up dummy account. 2) Post inflammatory tweet. 3) Troll away because I'm protected.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 03:19 PM
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You can also be abusive and poor. When controlling for all other factors, solid finances can only help you raise a child.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 05:07 PM
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Your earning potential does not make you a better or worse parent. Disagree. It's much easier to raise and provide for a child when you have a solid income than if you have no income.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 01:39 PM
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Awesome slut Jesus loves sluts Honk if you love sluts So the problem is that a man is holding a sign about his love for sluts? What about a lesbian woman holding the same sign? Should the last sign read, honk if you are a straight woman who loves sluts? Do these attendees not understand the point of slutwalks?
/r/MensRights31/07/13 01:56 PM
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I understand the post is satire, what I don't understand is why you think it's a good argument. Women are given advice to avoid becoming the victim of predators. Men are also given advice to avoid becoming the victim of predators, but I don't see feminists chiming in that "don't stick your dick in crazy" is victim blaming. Explain this double standard please. The post also mocks the notion of victim blaming, and the idea that men are unable to control their impulses, so basically its meaning sho…
/r/MensRights30/07/13 10:31 PM
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I can answer her question, they want to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 09:15 PM
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In March 2012, Triplett contacted the Santa Barbara Sheriff’s Office to report someone had tried to rape her as she took out her trash in Isla Vista, where she resides. She alleged a man approached her from behind, put a knife to her neck, and tried to pull down her pants. A skateboarder riding by the scene scared the purported suspect away, she told detectives. No suspects were ever identified or caught, Schonfield said, and it’s not known if the report was truthful or not. In both instances, S…
/r/MensRights30/07/13 09:10 PM
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You state you don't hate men, but at the same time believe that "Everyone should read this". As a feminist, you should have some understanding of the terms, institutional or systemic sexism. "Men, are you worried for your own safety because misandry? You need to accept that misandry happens in the real world and take some precautions. Ever heard the phase, "don't stick your dick in crazy?" This is a warning to steer clear of questionable women because they might abuse the preferential treatment …
/r/MensRights30/07/13 09:03 PM
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It was my understanding that consent cannot exist between inmates and officers.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 08:40 PM
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The link provided on the poster leads to a video titled "The Boy Who Could Dance". The video is of a teen aged boy participates in ballet and has a pair of fathers. I completely support the right for boys and men to participate in any activities they choose, including those outside traditional gender roles. However, in the text bar underneath the video: This Father's Day, think about how you, as a father or father figure, have the ability to positively influence your son. Promoting gender equali…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:37 PM
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You can't see the implied message?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:25 PM
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You are making an assumption that she is married to him out of love or because of sexual fidelity. Do you find it abusive when some professional athlete gets caught cheating and his wife stands by his side just long enough to qualify for the maximum amount of alimony? It just makes it clear what was important in the marriage to each person.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:06 PM
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I feel like you are jumping the gun here. /u/LadyLuq hasn't stated her opinion on legal paternal surrender. I happen to agree that abortion is 100% a woman's choice as we all should have the right to bodily autonomy.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:00 PM
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All rapists were born. Ban natural birth.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 04:51 PM
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"This package of measures represents a comprehensive and pragmatic approach to tackling the key issues which threaten the safety of our children online," Perry said yesterday. Anyone who uses the "safety of the children" argument needs to get dragged out into the street and beaten with a stick. "Unfortunately, there is no magic bullet to ensure our children are protected, but I think the measures announced by the prime minister will give parents confidence that they have easy-to-use tools at the…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 03:25 PM
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It does seem like the biggest loudmouths opposed to gay rights always end up getting caught in an airport bathroom with a mouthful of cock sooner or later (at least in politics).
/r/MensRights24/07/13 03:10 PM
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Some Commonwealth countries still without royal assent on primogeniture law change Not for long.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 08:11 PM
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I think you are forgetting that the current head of the family is a woman. If what you were saying was true, shouldn't Charles have deposed his mother?
/r/MensRights23/07/13 03:04 PM
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I think there are a couple of lies you can tell that invalidate the concept of informed consent. birth control usage STD/STI status Consent to sex with a condom is not consent to sex without a condom. Fortunately for women, you can see the evidence of condom usage at any time. It follows that consent to sex while under the influence of birth control pills is not consent to sex without birth control. However, an exception needs to be made in the case of birth control pills as they don't operate i…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:59 PM
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TIL condoms are 100% effective. /s
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:45 PM
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If Man lies about his occupation, say he claims to be a Fighter Pilot instead of a McDonalds employee, in the course of chatting them up, then that could be rape if they were solely attracted to them due to this lie. How would this be enforced? The sex would appear entirely consensual and the crux of a rape conviction under this standard would be a verbal disagreement between two people. "She said she was a engineer, but it turns out she was a janitor." "I never said I was an engineer."
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:44 PM
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The incorrect nomenclature is what's really important (biological male/gender boy). Let's disregard the fact that we are talking about a family unit based around the ideology of nobility and the divine right of rulership.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:29 PM
10

This might be the craziest thing I've read on /MR. You think that the government is secretly paying feminists to troll MR forums in an attempt to discredit MRAs. Seek help.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 09:27 PM
3

Title is so bad I'm just going to assume troll.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 06:59 PM
5

I have to disagree. Item #1: Understand that rape and assault aren’t sex. This statement implicitly ties male sexuality and rape together. Rape is not an expression of normal male sexuality. If this was a discussion about changing our ideas of motherhood, the top item up for discussion wouldn't be to understand child molestation isn't an expression of motherly love. The remaining six points, I agree with.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 06:02 PM
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Weary attempts at paternalistic wit will be ignored, so stop while you're still ahead. Pretending like you didn't initiate the combative nature of this exchange? Is it happening in his body? No. Is this an argument that a woman is somehow not responsible for the choices she makes with her body? Because otherwise it just reinforces my point. And here, you reveal again your cognitive dissonance and still managed to do nothing but support my point. Is your point that men are legally able to force w…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 04:03 PM
2

Did she provide a source for her statistics in the original post?
/r/MensRights19/07/13 03:34 PM
0

Our country's policies simply do not reflect the way families live today, with both parents in the workforce and more single-parent households than ever. A second income is no longer a luxury; it is a necessity. /facepalm Explain who is providing this necessary second income in a single-parent home. Is this an argument for more government subsidization of single-parent families or the dissolution of single-parent families?
/r/MensRights19/07/13 03:19 PM
2

Not sure why you brought up child custody or suicide.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 03:13 PM
5

Context: We are talking about legal paternal surrender. Let me hold your hand through the process since your thinking process is stuck somewhere between a "fucking zygote and an infant". In a pregnancy, a man has no control over the decision to proceed with or terminate a pregnancy. Do you disagree with this statement? In a pregnancy, a woman has all of the control over the decision to proceed with or terminate a pregnancy. Do you disagree with this statement? Barring an accident or medical mish…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 03:05 PM
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Women have 100% control over the decision to proceed or terminate a pregnancy. Explain to me how they aren't 100% responsible for the outcome.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:54 PM
5

I know your question is rhetorical, but the answer should be "because they claim to be a gender equality movement." Unfortunately, the proof is in the pudding.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:50 PM
0

The defendants name isn't listed in the original video, only the county in which she is being tried. I did look, but could only find articles about the police captain who was being prosecuted for incest in the Elko county.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:38 PM
4

Upvote for providing better facts of the case. Downvote for pretty much everything else.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 05:35 PM
9

Except when the perspective of and injustice against the male victim in the case is conveniently ignored Maybe you are unaware of the way this comes off, but it sounds like "throw justice under the bus if a male is harmed". As you outlined above, the video didn't tell the whole story. Stop pretending that our responses would be the same if we had received the full story.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 05:30 PM
2

Even in the case of a fictional legal paternal surrender (and adoption) there should be some record of both birth parents. With the nature of some genetic disorders, it's in the best interest of the child to know the pertinent medical history of it's biological parents. This doesn't mean there needs to be contact between the child and biological parents, just that a doctor should be able to check medical records.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 05:23 PM
1

Really, I didn't know the "innocently accused" thing was such a problem, but it's been mentioned plenty of times in this thread already. You should take a look at the Innocence Project. To date, more than 300 people in the United States have been exonerated by DNA testing, including 18 who served time on death row. These people served an average of 13 years in prison before exoneration and release. A vast majority of the people exonerated by the Innocence Project were convicted of sex crimes. Ta…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 05:07 PM
1

So you don't think you should be required to foot the bill for any of the costs associated with raising your child? Visitation should be linked to child support (except in cases of child abuse), but you are still responsible for the financial costs of raising your child.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 07:53 PM
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I agree that it's not an example of male disposability, but it is an example of veteran disposability. It's easy to talk with bravado about sending young men and women off to war, but apparently not so easy to write those checks required to take care of the aftermath.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 07:47 PM
2

I'm confused. Do you think you don't owe child support because your ex-wife has a better paying job or because you don't get to see your child?
/r/MensRights17/07/13 07:37 PM
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I believe you are incorrect as the defense mentions a case of another woman raping a 5 year old while her boyfriend watched in Florida who only received 70 years at the 6:00-6:20ish mark. This second case is only being brought up as an example of the severity of the sentence in comparison to the severity of the two different crimes, not because it's the same person.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 07:15 PM
2

Could be included. I don't think it's "approved" like male prison rape, society thinks woman-on-man rape is consensual sex or a myth.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 07:05 PM
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On November 11, 2009, Flair married his fourth wife, Jackie Beems, in Charlotte, North Carolina. It was announced on September 3, 2012 that Ric Flair will be going through his fourth divorce. -- Wikipedia How can they justify alimony for a marriage that didn't last 3 years over a period extremely late in his career? They don't have children either.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 05:20 PM
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Source
/r/MensRights17/07/13 04:27 PM
2

Your definition of rape culture isn't the only definition of rape culture. /u/cypher197 's parent post described that sometimes rape culture is used as if the culture-at-large is totally cool with this whole "rape" thing.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 03:02 PM
1

You don't see the difference between describing culture as a whole and certain attitudes or practices?
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:49 PM
0

You can't draw the connection between Jeantel telling Trayvon he was being targeted by a sexual predator and the violence that ensued?
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:24 PM
4

I can't see any scenario where this would be abused. /s You are walking to your car in a parking lot. A woman believes you are following her and fears you are a rapist. This is grounds for violent self-defense?
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:18 PM
1

Do what I do when feminists feed you the bullshit of "are you for equality? then your a feminist" line. Either confront her with insane feminist doctrine or make up your own shit, even borrow from the MRM while maintaining that you are in fact a feminist, since you believe in true equality for both men and women. Even when it completely conflicts with feminist ideals (which will be often). Just making sure I'm picking up what you are putting down. ex. Because I am a feminist and I believe in gen…
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:08 PM
3

I'd love to hear your suggestions on how to change the justice system to better prosecute rapists while at the same time providing a better defense for the innocently accused.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 01:56 PM
3

"The term 'rape culture' originated in the 1970s during the second wave feminist movement and is often used by feminists to describe contemporary American culture as a whole." Smith, Merril D. (2004). Encyclopedia of Rape (1st ed.). Westport, Conn.: Greenwood Press. p. 174. ISBN 0-313-32687-8.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 01:53 PM
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If rape culture is defined as society-at-large approving of rape, the only rape culture I've ever observed is focused on male prison rape.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 01:44 PM
1

Never claimed this wasn't the case. The best way to find a partner with the traits you desire is to reflect those traits in yourself.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 08:20 PM
2

You are completely correct in my opinion that we have picked a fairly arbitrary time between when an egg is fertilized and a baby is born to assign personhood. I would disagree with your third paragraph. There is no harm done if I donate a pint of blood. However, no one has the right to compel me to give them a pint of blood, even if they would die without it.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 07:30 PM
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I'm glad OP's assertion is incorrect. This is also what I love about this subreddit. Being factual is more important than winning.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 05:59 PM
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Bureau of Labour Statistics - American Time Use Survey 2012 On the days they worked, employed men worked 55 minutes more than employed women. This difference partly reflects women’s greater likelihood of working part time. However, even among full-time workers (those usually working 35 hours or more per week), men worked longer than women—8.5 hours compared with 7.9 hours. (See table 4.) The 2008 data was 8.3 versus 7.7 hours and 2004 data was 8.3 versus 7.2 hours. The trend seems to be slowly c…
/r/MensRights16/07/13 05:15 PM
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If they are implementing quotas to artificially push women to the top, then they need to implement quotas to artificially push women to the bottom. For every CEO position filled by a woman through a quota, they can arrange a workplace fatality for a female school teacher. Sally gets promoted to sit on the board of directors and Susan is forced to become a garbage collector.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 04:32 PM
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The problem is that upper management positions lean heavily towards life-time employees who are putting in extra hours at work or nepotism. Then you compare hours spent at work between the genders and find that women are only working ~85% of the hours that men work. There may be a glass ceiling for women in upper management, but it's constructed out of the personal choices women make, specifically having children.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 04:25 PM
3

I would guess this has to do with money. The secretary is criminally responsible for her own actions. The school is responsible for the actions of their employees. Another example would be when Wanetta Gibson and her mother Wanda Rhodes sued the Long Beach Unified School District, making the claim that the campus was unsafe in the Brian Banks case.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 05:54 PM
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You'd have to compare them to comments about the living conditions in women's institutions, but I would predict a difference. The general public believes that men have hyper-agency, while women have hypo-agency. Men make decisions, women are objects. Men commit crimes because they are bad, women commit crimes because of bad circumstances. This article isn't directly compareable, but look at the comments. Women were sterilized in prison, and it's deplorable. I don't see any comments arguing that …
/r/MensRights15/07/13 05:49 PM
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The school district failed to supervise the school secretary.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 04:55 PM
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At the very end of the same article: In 2004, a federal jury decided the Ossining school district had to pay $375,000 to a former basketball player for failing to supervise a school secretary who had an affair with the student, starting when the student was 15. A federal judge later refused the district’s request to set aside the verdict. Genders aren't mentioned, but describing this as an "affair" seems to indicate this was a female school secretary and a male basketball player. Need to find so…
/r/MensRights15/07/13 01:54 PM
2

"WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TRY TO BE PRETTY!" Translation: Women shouldn't have to compete with each other for the attentions of men they find attractive.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 01:48 PM
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I think it only applies to medical treatment. It just means that a doctor has to tell you the full medical consequences of their actions. So they can't do some procedure on a patient, who then finds out the side effect is that they are also sterilized, etc.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 08:20 PM
2

I don't think informed consent is a legal standard. Not to mention, I've heard arguments applying "informed consent" to age, wealth, job, sexual history and other seemingly trivial things.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 03:55 PM
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It can be both rape and homicide. It seems safe to assume that these victims would not have performed sexual acts with this woman if she had disclosed her HIV status, as they went to the police after finding out she had HIV. Those acts might qualify as consensual, but there definitely wasn't "informed consent".
/r/MensRights11/07/13 03:24 PM
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I think he's pointing out that "abstinence" was an argument made by anti-abortion proponents. It was an argument that didn't fly with feminists when it was applied to women. However, quite a few of them are willing to use it when it applies to men.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 03:06 PM
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The problem is that the interaction between abortion rights, safe haven laws, adoption and the way paternity is named creates a massive inequality in the options available between men and women in this scenario.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 05:09 PM
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I have to admit, I'm shocked that only 1/5 Canadians hold that belief. There are predators out there, who do you think they target? Anything you do to make yourself more vulnerable increases the risk you will be targeted. If we were talking about robbery, leaving your doors unlocked, posting that you are going on vacation on Facebook, leaving valuables in plain sight through windows would all be behaviors that increase the risk of burglars targeting your home. If the discussion was about assault…
/r/MensRights10/07/13 04:41 PM
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I understand, you live in a fantasy world. You can say the word "no" and have it mean "yes". The spoken word uses tone, which can be used to indicate a question, sarcasm, falseness, etc. You can also have a verbal "no" and a non-verbal "yes", where there is no ambiguity over consent. If a woman asks for my consent and I say "no", but then proceed to drop my pants and put on a condom, it's pretty safe to assume the verbal "no" was false and I am consenting.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 04:21 PM
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You understand there is a difference between assuming consent because of non-verbal cues and assuming consent because you simply want consent. Do you really believe that "no" only has one meaning and it's completely isolated from context?
/r/MensRights10/07/13 03:48 PM
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It follows that if you have complete control of the situation, you also have complete responsibility over the outcome.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 03:27 PM
1

Are you arguing that taxes collected by the state and used to help the poor are somehow different than tithes collected by the church and used to help the poor? Matthew 25:35–40, Luke 3:11, Proverbs 14:31 The bible is clear that devout Christians should help the poor and suffering. Doesn't it follow that practicing Christians should be leveraging their government to help the sick and those in need? As a Christian, is helping the poor still considered altruism if God commands it?
/r/MensRights10/07/13 02:05 PM
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Here's a link She's a corrupt Assistant District Attorney with a rate of prosecutions for sexual assault and domestic violence was 40 times higher per capita than the national average. Each prosecution secures funding for the DA's office through VAWA.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:25 PM
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Do you feel for the kid because his "father" left him/her? Or because the kid's mother is a scumbag?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:15 PM
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Do you believe that parents who put up their children for adoption have the moral responsibility to "be in the child's life"?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:14 PM
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Let's perform a thought experiment. Imagine a world in which abortion wasn't an option. A man pokes holes in his condoms and impregnates his girlfriend who has already expressed her unwillingness to have a child. Do you consider this to be consensual sex? Would you blame her at all if she abandoned the child with the father and split?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:11 PM
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going so far as to say that men presenting as victims of DA/DV were invariably abusers It's ironic that if you were talking about women as victims of domestic violence the safe bet would be that they are also invariably abusers as well do to the reciprocal nature of domestic violence.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:49 PM
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"Are you saying men aren't the traditional head of the household? That is a patriarchy". Looking at this statement in a historical and biological context, you might as well just say that the uterus is patriarchy.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:39 PM
4

Unfortunately, cognitive dissonance seems to be a defining trait of humanity. For example, among religious conservatives life is held to be sacred and precious. They extend this belief into their arguments against abortion, but at the same time try to cut social welfare programs. If each human life is sacred, shouldn't healthcare be provided for even poor homeless criminals?
/r/MensRights09/07/13 08:36 PM
1

That was a brief list of women in the 20th century. Do you want a longer list? While men are more likely to be leaders, there are still women who hold the same role. War is about natural resources, not gender politics.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:12 PM
1

Men create war. You didn't make that claim to start with.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:45 PM
2

So you don't consider it sexual assault if someone lies about their HIV status?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 10:12 PM
1

Within this thread
/r/MensRights08/07/13 10:09 PM
1

Sirimavo Bandaranaike Indira Gandhi Golda Meir Margaret Thatcher
/r/MensRights08/07/13 09:46 PM
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A misnomer. People are inherently real, unless they are works of fiction.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 05:03 PM
3

Individual members of the ruling body, who historically are more likely to be men, but includes women as well.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 05:01 PM
2

Men as a group don't create war.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:13 PM
1

I agree with you on the first two points about dangerous work. I also agree that you could attribute alimony, rape accusations, and the one sided handling of domestic violence to the belief that women are children. However, I don't think you can attribute current custody agreements to ""Women are too weak to defend themselves vs men so we have to protect them". Unless you think society believes that children need to be raised by pseudo-children.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:31 PM
1

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't keep women out of physically challenging work because they aren't strong enough and at the same time claim male discrimination.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 02:16 PM
1

Was this directed specifically at me, or was it a general "you"? Wasn't directed at you specifically, should have worded that differently. I've seen many people make the argument that women shouldn't be in the military or performing dangerous work, but then turn around and claim that the massively lopsided workplace fatality rate for men is example of male disposability. I don't care if there are women oil riggers or working on the crabbing boats. These kinds of dangerous jobs suffer from the sa…
/r/MensRights04/07/13 01:20 PM
2

I don't mind this argument as long as you are also willing to concede that military fatalities will continue to be predominantly men and you don't consider this sexism. This can also be extended to include dangerous physical labour. You can't exclude women the vast majority of women on the basis of their inherent genetic abilities, then turn around and claim male oppression.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 09:38 PM
6

Reading those comments gets my blood pressure up. Recycling anti-abortion arguments and using them to promote forced fatherhood. The irony burns.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 01:10 PM
12

You understand that you cherry picked that comment out of the thread right? You shouldn't take control away from anybody, that's the point. While some of the programs implemented in the bills actually would sound like a good idea for keeping men healthy, it's the idea that people should be able to control what happens with their own body. As long as she doesn't actually try to pass those bills, that's fine. Satire is sometimes a good way of making a point. It's an act of satire. The aim isn't to…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 06:13 PM
1

You seem to lack trust in men No, I just don't think that any one gender has a monopoly on defining gender equality. You often hear feminists argue that men can't understand their point of view simply because they are men. You are making the same argument in reverse. Men do not have to make the same mistakes feminists have made. if they start to do so then I will oppose it. You are making one of the first mistakes feminists made, dividing MRA's into proper male MRA's and female MRA "allies". A m…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:53 PM
1

You are describing a behavior in feminism that I detest. Women are not solely responsible for creating gender equality. It follows that men are not solely responsible for creating gender equality as well. If feminists don't want women to be relegated to the gender role of primary child care provider, it follows that feminists shouldn't want men stereotyped as an incompetent child care provider. You assume men and women categorically fall into MRA's or feminists and that they are completely selfi…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:25 PM
4

I believe you are missing a step. Generally a woman cannot put up a child for adoption unless the father voluntarily relinquishes his rights as a parent or has his rights terminated by the court. However, this assumes that the father is aware that he has a child and is available when the adoption decisions are made. The mother is also responsible for declaring paternity of the child, so she can just as easily claim she doesn't know the father of the child.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 04:16 PM
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From the comments it seems like this might be a fake story.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 02:24 PM
7

Just remember that you aren't really trying to convince the person you are arguing with. You just need to win over the people listening in from the sidelines. It's also my experience that very few people will simply reverse their beliefs on an issue on the spot. If they are going to change at all, it will happen later and privately after they run the ideas through their head a few more times. After finding the actual thread and reading a little bit more of doubleemmartin's arguments, it seems th…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 01:46 PM
1

Calling out hateful behaviour but then ignoring helpful behaviour by feminists is intellectually dishonest. She's clearly on our side on this issue, yet you still claim she hates men.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 01:10 PM
2

I don't think "women on the whole like to hate and disparage men". I see it as stroking women's egos by creating a narrative in which they are needed.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 01:07 PM
3

"As a woman, a single mother, and a feminist, I find this 'article' disturbing on so many levels," wrote Jocelyn Peskin. "Perpetuating unfounded gender stereotypes is deplorable and insulting. Always." Does this make her an MRA or us feminists? /s
/r/MensRights27/06/13 09:39 PM
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He laughed and said that dads ARE bumbling idiots I'd draw the conversation to a close right there. Either he's willfully ignorant or is just trying to change the topic and lighten the conversation. Then I tried to make the statement about 85% of consumer spending being spent by women This makes it seem like you tried to crowbar this into the conversation. How is this related to your discussion about the depiction of dads in the media?
/r/MensRights27/06/13 09:37 PM
12

I'm guessing this doesn't apply when the situation is reversed.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 08:06 PM
3

The problem is also that the parties don't line up across national borders. For example, I would argue that the Conservative party in Canada (our furthest right national party) is closer to the Democrats than the Republicans.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 03:14 PM
1

"Science is masculine. You shouldn't discredit other more feminine epistemologies or indigenous ways of knowing." If this were true (which it most certainly is not), imagine the implications. Anything feminine would be second class at best.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 03:25 PM
1

If the study took place in Canada I would not be shocked. While parental leave exists, it's only a fraction of your normal salary. Most people can't afford a 50-60% pay cut.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 08:20 PM
1

I can tell you what it should mean. The promotion of prison rape as part of the punishment that criminals should receive for their crimes. This is the only real rape culture I can identify in Western society.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 04:55 PM
6

This sums up her entire argument.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 02:32 PM
1

Somehow I'm getting downvoted into oblivion however.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 09:57 PM
2

I'm not arguing that the 2% number is correct, I'm citing sources from feminist sites. My argument is what follows.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 09:18 PM
7

It's obviously pretty sexist against everyone FTFY
/r/MensRights07/06/13 09:17 PM
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Experts say the only way to ensure this heinous crime is properly investigated and prosecuted is for law enforcement to move beyond the notion that women lie about rape. Fact: Women don’t lie about rape. The FBI reports that false accusations account for only 2% of all reported sexual assaults. Feminists generally don't argue that false rape accusations happen, just that they happen so infrequently that we might as well operate under the assumption that all accusations are true. Edit: I'm not de…
/r/MensRights07/06/13 03:59 PM
1

This is of course a question of power: who has the right to determine whether the objectification of women's bodies in the media should be seen as demeaning sexism or as a glorious affirmation of gender differences? I claim my right to call it the former. And yes, Nørmark, it is partly because I am that woman looks like a victim of sexism. Seeing myself as a victim as I am - that being a victim is not who you think something that the individual freely chooses to be or not to be. However, I am a …
/r/MensRights05/06/13 08:52 PM
6

This doesn't answer my question, unless you are picking a third option for why you think women don't make up 51% of congress / senate seats. Is your answer? Women are still viewed as objects first and not taken seriously by too many people.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:46 PM
6

So you think that there are less women elected because historically they weren't able to run, and not that the biological restrictions imposed on women by child bearing makes it more difficult to put together the resume required for public office?
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:29 PM
2

As a white male, when I see a woman with a hijab it makes me wonder how you can live in the West, get a top level university education and yet still have absolute faith in ancient mythology. It's the same puzzled look I would have if I ran into someone on the street preaching the word of Odin.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:25 PM
4

I completely agree that historically patriarchy existed. My problem is that the concept of patriarchy doesn't apply in modern times. Do you honestly think that when someone claims that we are "living in a patriarchy" that they aren't arguing "domination of all men over all women in equal terms"?
/r/MensRights05/06/13 03:09 PM
1

all i hear from you is wah wah boo hoo my life as a man is so hard...did you ever stop to think that maybe the problem isn't some bizarre reverse sexism, but it's you? go fuck yourself. Truly, this is the voice of gender egalitarianism. /s The whole thread is an example of why you shouldn't resort to name calling. When only one side is participating, it makes them look like clowns.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 02:26 PM
3

While I don't agree with most of their politics and the way they like to slander the MRM as hate groups, I can't fault them for defending male prison rape victims.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 04:35 AM
1

Some additional information on the lawsuit and Letter of a man violently raped in the prison
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:00 PM
6

I think it adds another wrinkle when they are single mothers. They might take it as a signal that not only do you not want to have your own kids, but that you probably don't want to have anything to do with their kids either. I would also guess that age is a factor. I would bet that once you start getting into your 40s, women won't care about the vasectomy.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 07:19 PM
2

The Scandinavian countries have been attacked so extremely hard by the Jews after 1945 that the rest of the world would be shocked if they knew the situation. A thick fog of absolute madness covers the entire nation of Sweden, and it is produced and fed by the thousands of beastly Jews living there. WTF -- I wish I had more downvotes to give this link.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 03:52 PM
7

I would guess that he did some research on MRA's, but that he got the research from feminist sources. It seemed like he was waiting for Paul to fall in line with the feminist narrative of MRA's and tell him that women need to get back in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant or he was going to beat them.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 11:04 PM
1

You have a copy of the coroner's report? It's a fact that she hit him in the head repeatedly with a baton, however nobody knows cause of death from what's in that video.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 09:30 PM
2

So what you are saying is that marriage isn't a partnership and that you should make financial/career decisions looking out only for yourself.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 10:19 PM
2

Scouts Canada admits Girls, but I'm guessing you are talking about the Boy Scouts of America. Scouts Canada became completely co-ed in 1998.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 10:12 PM
1

Agreed. You can see that there are multiple quotes as the quotation line/bar is broken up multiple times, but they should have attributed it to multiple users.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 09:39 PM
6

I completely disagree with the narrative you are spinning. It reads like a crazy conspiracy theory to me. You are imputing motives onto feminists of which you have no evidence. If we are just going to spout off crazy theories, maybe feminist thought isn't free of "patriarchal" concepts and don't allow for men to be victims.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 09:37 PM
0

I think you are both mistaken. The quotes from from more than one post within the thread.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 09:22 PM
-1

It's kind of their job. Who else should be investigating this incident?
/r/MensRights27/05/13 09:15 PM
10

There aren't enough details out about this incident to know how this man was killed. He might have had a heart or respiratory attack after being smothered on the ground. He might have died from an overdose. He might have died from blows to the head. It's all speculation.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 09:14 PM
3

Life sure is hard for those attractive people, if only they could ugly themselves up somehow they would be living the dream.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 09:10 PM
17

The Warren Buffet quote made me shake my head. "Fellow males, get onboard. The closer that America comes to employing the talents of all its citizens, the greater its output of goods and services will be." This would be true, if Mason wasn't advocating reducing men and women's workloads.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 05:58 PM
0

You are missing the point. Let's say your father is dying from kidney failure. Does he have the right to take one of your kidneys? Without it, he's going to die. Does his need override your right to bodily autonomy?
/r/MensRights16/05/13 10:42 PM
-2

Abortion doesn't center around personhood. It's about being able to make decisions with your own body. If someone needs a kidney transplant, they can't just take mine even if they will die without it. A fetus has no rights over a woman's body. It's not a double standard.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 10:27 PM
11

Abortion is a question of bodily autonomy, not personhood.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 10:22 PM
-4

Does it matter if you were stabbed to death in your sleep or if they used poison? The end result is a homicide.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 10:18 PM
10

I would as well, but I'm not so keen on being financially dependant on anyone else. I can't believe that "78 per cent of the women said that they wouldn't be bothered if they had to rely on their partner for money." Apparently women in the UK have some serious confidence in family court and alimony settlements if the relationship goes sideways.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 07:11 PM
21

As he should be. This isn't any different than if he'd pushed her down some stairs, or repeatedly kicked her in the stomach to induce a miscarriage.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 07:05 PM
7

This is a terrible idea. This is the same kind of thinking that leads to people cheering on prison rape.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 07:19 PM
8

He was falsely accused and went to trial. I wonder where he would end up on this graphic.
/r/MensRights14/05/13 06:00 PM
4

Watched a couple more of SparkyFister's videos. Some great laughs to be had.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 10:17 PM
6

Sally and Michelle are in a relationship. Sally accuses Michelle of domestic abuse. Michelle denies the claim. Who do I throw my bias behind and does the paradox cause the universe to implode?
/r/MensRights10/05/13 08:20 PM
1

Disgusting.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 08:05 PM
1

I chuckled out loud when I read that.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 07:55 PM
0

That situation is a complete mess. If he raped his step daughter for 16 years, then he should be in jail. However, they didn't seem to convict him on very much if he accepted a plea bargain where he only served 1 year and isn't publicly on the registered sex offenders list. I'm shocked by how many comments there are saying that the judge(s) involved are cowards for following the law. The phrase "judicial activism" springs to mind.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 07:37 PM
1

English is my only language. As I originally said, I'm a layman when it comes to body armour (someone without professional or specialized knowledge in the subject). I was genuine in my thanks. I learned something new.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 04:06 PM
2

Thanks for straightening me out!
/r/MensRights07/05/13 04:00 PM
2

As a layman, I would suspect places where you could adjust the armour would be more vulnerable to penetration.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 03:14 PM
1

I obviously haven't bought and read the book you linked, however after reading through the 3rd article, I don't see it correlating patriarchy with male disposability. It seems to try to draw some strange triangle of: traditional definition of patriarchy --> hegemonic masculinity (traditional male traits) --> free market capitalism (as the source of violence) --> patriarchy The second article seems to be a discussion on the Colonial Family in the 1600-1700s. I'm not finished reading it, but I hav…
/r/MensRights02/05/13 11:07 PM
5

For the same reason that society should not use prison rape as a deterrent in a men's prison. If there is a culture of rape in North American society, this is it.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 09:24 PM
2

A system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line. A system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. Patriarchy – Literally means the rule of the father and is generally understood within feminist discourses in a dualistic sense as asserting the domination of all men over all women in equal terms. http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/faq-isnt-the-…
/r/MensRights02/05/13 09:19 PM
1

How does it take 7 years to get caught? Where is the peer review?
/r/MensRights02/05/13 09:08 PM
4

Rape is not an acceptable punishment for anyone.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 09:03 PM
2

This patriarchal society puts women down; by extension, it puts men down for "acting like women," If we get rid of the idea that some things are girly and bad and some things are manly and good, then everybody can do everything I'm operating under the definition of patriarchy provided by the author. I don't disagree that workplace fatalities are the result of a system that sees men as disposable labor, but I have never seen the patriarchy described as such.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 08:54 PM
12

Discussions in this subreddit will assume the validity of feminism's existence, its egalitarian aspect, and the necessity of feminism's continued existence. You expected to participate in open dialog when the subreddit simply asserts the infallibility of feminism?
/r/MensRights02/05/13 03:25 PM
1

As long as they are for voluntary service for both sexes and are being placed at equal risk, I'm in agreement.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 10:33 PM
70

Complete strawman. Not to mention that some issues that men face cannot be attributed to men "acting like women", but because they don't "act like women". For example workplace fatalities.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 09:36 PM
12

There was also this story about a lesbian woman who staged a homophobic attack and cut slurs into herself. http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/justice/nebraska-hate-crime
/r/MensRights01/05/13 08:21 PM
42

This reminds me a news story that happened in my city. Someone spray painted anti-semitic graffiti all over a Jewish center. Everyone was disgusted and outraged, but when the police caught the perpetrator, he was Jewish and a member of the center. There are some disturbed people out there who seem to get off on the attention they receive from being a victim. I won't be surprised when one day there is a story about someone who's part of the MRM making up some complete bullshit story to gain victi…
/r/MensRights01/05/13 03:05 PM
6

Yes. If you aren't evaluating the truth of your beliefs, how do you know they are true?
/r/MensRights01/05/13 02:59 PM
5

autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice and when a single woman exercises her reproductive autonomy by going to a sperm bank, she denies her child any chance of getting a penny from the man who supplied his DNA Great article.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:00 PM
3

I think she's referencing Valerie Solanas, the writer of the SCUM manifesto. She shot Andy Warhol, Mario Amaya and would have shot Andy Warhol's manager if her gun didn't jam.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 10:44 PM
8

Of these two groups, which ones are relevant? The ones who are steering DV policy in government organizations, or the ones who are "moderately" standing on the sidelines underneath the same banner?
/r/MensRights29/04/13 09:47 PM
4

Apparently government funding for domestic violence shelters is not influenced by feminist organizations or schools of thought.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 07:35 PM
13

"Islam provides a social system to regulate the interaction between men and women.." No thank you.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 10:39 PM
1

You never double down on the derp.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 10:36 PM
1

Better than debtor's prison.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 04:39 PM
2

Exactly my point.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:48 PM
14

Professor Janice Fiamengo, who suggested that women's studies programs have a political agenda that has negative consequences for men. How is this not a true statement? Even under the twisted logic of feminist theory, if men benefit from the "patriarchy", then feminist programs looking to dismantle the "patriarchy" will have negative consequences for men. Their event on April 4th includes the authors of “Speaking Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture” and “Legalizing Misa…
/r/MensRights04/04/13 05:01 PM
9

Wasn't my original comment, but it's never wrong to ask for sources. Always question.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 08:07 PM
11

This year the ban was challenged but the French Government decided to uphold and maintain the anti-paternity testing law. The reasons for which the Government said the ban should remain were related to the preservation of peace within French families. also Any paternity testing without a court order is banned, due to the official desire to "preserve the peace" within French families, with the French government citing psychologists who state that fatherhood is determined by society rather than bi…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 07:58 PM
1

I agree that men's issues being recognized as being legitimate and important is a concern. However, I don't want to see the MR movement copy the feminist playbook and pretend that certain MR issues only impact men.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 07:45 PM
2

It's better than the alternative. You can't have legitimate discussions about gender without looking at both sides of the coin. This is where feminist discourse and research often fails in my opinion.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:21 PM
2

There seems to be more factors involved. The study indicates that single parent families are more likely to happen when the parents have lower levels of education . Children of parents with lower levels of education are less likely to obtain higher levels of education. Education levels correlate with income and income levels correlate with marriage rates. The whole report seems to indicate a positive feedback loop, ever accelerating the number of uneducated, poor, single parent families. I wish …
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:17 PM
2

Name one reproductive right that men have to guard them against this kind of action from a woman. Men don't have reproductive rights, they only have reproductive responsibilities.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 05:14 PM
15

The article itself just shows the hypocrisy of PZ Meyers complaining about jokes of a sexual manner at a conference.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 07:27 PM
5

It's so over the top it might be a troll.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 07:25 PM
6

Just look a look through as well. They seem to be on the same page.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 05:20 PM
3

Came here to say this. It was a sexual joke, not a sexist joke. And it was a pretty tame sexual joke. I've heard 100x worse come out of the mouths of the women heading the HR department where I work.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 05:13 PM
1

Having some problems with the link. The cotwa.info domain seems to point to a squatter site for me. Anyone else having this problem?
/r/MensRights13/03/13 02:43 PM
2

I assume you mean outside of a medical setting?
/r/MensRights12/03/13 05:07 PM
3

I'm confused about how this guy is messaging this girl. Her phone was lost in his car and is now in the possession of the police. Her computer was stolen. How is he contacting her? I'm thinking that maybe he's over reacting.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 07:10 PM
7

The scale of the damage is not the same. However, both are examples of domestic violence. Are you trying to argue that if Chris Brown only punched Rihanna a single time drawing blood, that it would be okay?
/r/MensRights28/02/13 04:36 PM
2

I think you are misunderstanding what is written. being made to vaginally penetrate a female using one’s own penis This part covers a man being raped by a woman using her vagina. female perpetrators attempting to force male victims to penetrate them, though it did not happen Apparently they are counting attempted rape with a vagina as rape. So she attempts to rape with her vagina, but doesn't succeed in being penetrated.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 04:08 PM
2

It dispels the myth that the people in charge govern with a bias towards those who share their genitals.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 08:31 PM
10

If that were the case, wouldn't that make it less dangerous to be a female war reporter?
/r/MensRights26/02/13 04:48 PM
12

I'd love a detailed explanation of why that slam on Clooney is misogynistic.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 11:09 PM
18

I think you are wrong. This looks like the kind of site that squatters set up. Squatters buy expired domains and then ransom them back to the original owner. However, domain name registrations may be challenged and if the holder cannot justify the reservation of the name they can lose the registration. So squatters have to set up a phony site temporarily to avoid being challenged. This looks exactly like a squatter site.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 10:21 PM
1

That's going to last you through your retirement? I hope you enjoy eating cat food and have some loving relatives.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 06:03 PM
9

Playing devils advocate here. After being unemployed for 15 years and at the age of 66, what exactly is this person supposed to do?
/r/MensRights13/02/13 03:54 PM
1

Flash back
/r/MensRights12/02/13 09:51 PM
16

Completely agree. The Atheism+ movement is just as dogmatic as any religion and it seems that quite of few of their members fanatically enforce their "doctrine".
/r/MensRights08/02/13 10:01 PM
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I'm also an atheist and my experience is that atheists aren't any more reasonable or logical than anyone else. Human beings are strongly guided by emotion, some of us are just better at justifying our emotional decisions while pretending they stem from reason.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 04:12 PM
2

Completely agree. It's not relevant what some random person posts to Facebook. We don't know the people involved. We don't know if they consider themselves to be feminists or not. We don't if the screenshots are fake.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 06:29 PM
7

It's not about simply asking him to leave. She is worried that asking him to leave will escalate into violence. That's why the man is being asked/told to initiate the confrontation.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 04:24 PM
0

I was at the movies when some trivia/factoid came up about Maureen O'Hara (Miracle on 34th Street). Her birth date was listed up on the screen, August 17, 1920. I turned to my girlfriend and said, "Was she ever born the right sex." My girlfriend asked what I was talking about and I replied, "World War II."
/r/MensRights23/01/13 04:12 PM
15

Can you imagine the new levels of honesty that would be found in relationships if there was state mandated paternity testing on all children born? If I was betting on the results of such a program, I would think there would be a spike in abortions as women were faced with gambling between potentially revealing their infidelity with a DNA test or privately covering up the matter.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 11:36 PM
5

This is a display of female privilege. It must be nice to know with almost absolute certainty that your children are your biological offspring. The article is also a great example of sexism. Even looking at it through a feminist lens, the wife is just an object being acted upon in her environment. The man is the sole actor, which is why it's his fault for discovering the infidelity.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 11:30 PM
5

Because of doping? News flash.. nearly everyone at the top level of competitive sports where money is involved is doping. Just look at the Tour de France: Top 15 finishers in the last 15 years History of doping in at the Tour de France Even at the Olympic level, the effort made to stop doping is almost comical.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 05:46 PM
4

The content of this post is so naive that it's setting off trolling alarms. However: You can't voluntarily terminate your parental rights as a man. A woman can give up her child for adoption, but a man doesn't have this right. His ex-gf can put him on the birth certificate without obtaining his permission, so you don't know if he's on it or not. It doesn't matter if she lied about birth control and intentionally got pregnant. Child support is a right of the child, so this doesn't matter to the c…
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:02 PM
3

I'd love to see a source for that claim.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 06:08 PM
4

As a circumcised male who is against circumcision, it's definitely "better" than FGM. My penis still works and the nerve endings are still there to transmit sexual pleasure. This is not the case when your clitoris is cut off. Both should be banned, but one is clearly worse than the other.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:55 PM
3

Is health insurance cheaper for men in the US?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:16 PM
13

Feds: Help us find this female pornographer, rescue child victim That's the headline of the article.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 05:36 PM
11

Exactly. It's unbelievably sick that the article never describes her as a pedophile or a child predator.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:29 PM
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LOL! The very IDEA that some women may have legal, social and monetary incentives to lie about rape and abuse in order to gain something is SEXIST and HAS NO BASIS IN REALITY BECAUSE IT NEVER EVER HAPPENS EVARRRRR!!! Came here to say this. The irony of claiming that the assertion that women are people who sometimes are motivated to lie is sexism. The stupidity burns.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:10 PM
9

So did I, but I think it had more to do with a fantasy of being able to circumvent my parents control over deserts, than wanting to learn to cook.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 06:51 PM
11

The two top comments describe completely different ideas. 1: At its core, used to describe the victim-blaming attitude towards rape. If a woman is raped, she was "asking for it", and if a man was raped, he was "weak" or a "sissy" or "enjoyed it". Promoting the ideal of "don't get raped" over "don't rape people". 2: a culture that is more permissive towards rape If rape culture is a "culture that is more permissive towards rape" I can only think of a couple of examples. Rape in prison or the rape…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 08:12 PM
7

I'd have to dig up the study, but both sides suffered from the bias. The difference was the students expectations of the bias. Boys expected to be graded worse by female teachers while girls expected to be graded better by male teachers.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:05 PM
1

Maybe I'm living in a bubble, but I can't think of any examples where society says it's okay to rape in that context. Perhaps the victim protests, says no, makes it clear that consent is not given, the rapist is going to use their past experiences with their peers to determine if they're expected to keep going. This seems to be a "slippery slope" type argument and I'm not even sure it's true. I'm not a rapist, I've never committed murder or even assaulted anyone, so I don't understand the mindse…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 03:45 PM
2

Someone needs to explain to me how these kinds study can have any kind of value without having reciprocal questions about the other sex. Examples: Asking what I think the age of consent for women should be without asking what I think the age of consent for men should be? A woman should not reject a man by saying "get lost" or "f**k off", because women should not speak to men that way, but not asking the reverse question. Women don't know what they want, but not asking if I think men don't know w…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:50 PM
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The most important part of that story is left out. Did she consent to sex in the stairwell? Was she so drunk she was unable to consent? Was she the only one who was drunk? There's not enough information in the story to judge.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:12 PM
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The real rape culture targets men. Prison rape is presented as a deterrent in the media, or a just reward for heinous crimes. A man who gets raped by a woman is lucky. These are pro-rape attitudes in our culture.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:08 PM
2

Rapists are people who don't care about consent. Why do you think you're going to be able to change their minds? The word murder gets thrown around a lot. Do you think that when someone says, "I could kill that asshole" they are promoting murder culture? That disturbed murderers take that to mean that society thinks murder is normal?
/r/MensRights12/12/12 03:58 PM
2

Exactly. Would "get off my penis" or "stay out of my testicles" be considered any less vulgar in the same context? I don't think so.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 05:45 PM
1

I think you are right on the money with this assessment.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 05:41 PM
4

One of the places that the whole concept of privilege goes wrong is that the importance of gender or racial privilege is entirely misplaced. Financial privilege heavily outweighs whatever privileges and/or disadvantages you may have due to your sex or skin color. Most problems can be solved or the symptoms can be alleviated with wealth.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 05:27 PM
12

I really don't understand the need to differentiate between "gamers" and "girl gamers". Are female Star Trek fans not called "trekkers"? Are you not allowed to call yourself a "Browncoat" if you're a Firefly fan who's a woman? It seems the only reason to call yourself a "girl gamer" is to point out the fact that you are female over a medium where your sex isn't always apparent.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 09:02 PM
15

Anita Sarkeesian runs a blog called Feminist Frequency. I would call her an amateur feminist media critic. Anita heavily moderated the comments on her videos and channel, to make it a "safe space". She started a Kickstarter project where she proposed to do some videos critiquing video games and how they are misogynist. In the proposal video she asserts that gaming culture is misogynist and then asks for money to buy games so she can analyze them (meaning she's not a gamer and doesn't know what s…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 08:41 PM
4

Condoms, now 100% effective.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 04:01 PM
1

to be fair these laws werent created to make not being a mother easy, they are spicifically designed to prevent parents mothers from killing their newborns. Edited for accuracy. Fathers aren't throwing babies into dumpsters. Maybe if men killed newborn babies they didn't want to support we could get some laws passed to allow them to legally abandon their children. /endsarcasm
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:59 PM
1

Does anyone think it's okay to "have sex" (rape) someone who's drunk to the point of being incapacitated on their feet? Or that if they want to stop halfway through, you're allowed to just keep going? The answer is yes, rapists think it's okay. They are rapists because they don't care about consent. You're not going to change their mind by appealing to their good nature. Is this campaign targeting rapists with a conscience?
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:30 PM
9

I think the reason the results are skewed within MRAs is because a random guy off the street probably hasn't given it any serious thought.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 11:45 PM
2

Yes. Because I'll never know the natural state of my penis. It should be legal upon reaching the age of majority.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 11:38 PM
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Fuck these manhood101 clowns. Pedal your tradcon bullshit somewhere else.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 10:46 PM
5

Surely there are certain aspects of sports where a woman might perform better than a man. For instance, if there were women in the NBA, the ball might actually get passed around. There's no way you'd make this comment if you actually watched any basketball above a Junior High level. There is an immense difference between men's and women's basketball. At a professional level, there isn't a single woman in the WNBA who could even warm the bench on college team, let alone the NBA. If you were talki…
/r/MensRights29/11/12 04:28 PM
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Eyewitness testimony isn't very good. However, they have a fingerprint of the accused on a condom wrapper he left at the scene.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:50 PM
7

Does it matter when the discrimination and privilege are two sides of the same coin? Society doesn't think you can fight == Society doesn't expect you to fight Would you rather be a woman or a man if you found yourself in France, Russia or Serbia during WW1?
/r/MensRights26/11/12 08:44 PM
2

The argument seems to parallel the "think of the children" trope. Replace children with women and use the same moral outrage.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:16 PM
13

It only said she was booked on domestic violence charges. Maybe she will be prosecuted on attempted murder charges. I'm not holding my breath though.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 03:37 PM
2

Except if you watched the video it's explained that the cops took both sides of the story, and then the cab driver revealed he had tapes of the incident. He wouldn't need to show the cops the tapes if they didn't lie.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 08:46 PM
1

And when the cops arrived and questioned them about the incident, do you think they admitted they didn't pay the fare? Or kept on about their claim that he sexually assaulted them?
/r/MensRights09/11/12 05:07 PM
9

Summary: Men's problems are cause by other men. Women have it worse. Haven't heard that before. /s
/r/MensRights08/11/12 05:41 PM
2

Sorry to hear that. Do you know what was claimed to get the restraining order against you?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:49 PM
2

Research conducted in 2005 showed that just eight per cent of rape allegations were classed as false. However, Rape Crisis Scotland claims some police officers have privately intimated that they believe around 80 per cent of allegations brought to them are untrue. It would have been nice if they would expand upon why this is the case. There are a variety of categories a rape claim can fall into that I can think of: 1) provably true 2) not provably true 3) not provably false 4) provably false The…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:42 PM
4

I agree. They just need to enforce the rules that are already in place in your subscriber agreement on XBL. Online play has devolved into a cesspit of racial slurs and harassment. The problem is that almost all of this occurs over mic and I don't think XBL keeps recordings of it.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 07:24 PM
1

I think the article has been changed. It's not the same one I read yesterday. edit: It definitely has been changed, the current link says "Submitted by Marissa Jasek on Thu, 11/01/2012 - 11:59pm", which is after I made my comment.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 02:43 PM
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Notice how the troopers name was given, but the accuser remains nameless. edit: Article in the link has been changed from when this comment was written.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 08:55 PM
2

They don't regulate other news sources, but they do set a de facto standard when it comes to broadcast and journalistic standards. It's my opinion that's one of the reasons that Fox-light, aka the Sun News channel doesn't seem to have nearly the same kind of traction in Canada.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 09:51 PM
8

Trolls can definitely share some of the blame, along with extremists on both sides of the fence.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 08:17 PM
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I agree. I'd like to throw in that there is a fair amount of "poisoning the well" at play. You can see it when someone new to /MR reads what gets written around here and realizes it's completely at odds with what they've been told. It's easier to dismiss men's rights when you don't have to argue the points and just attack the strawman you've already set up in advance.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 08:02 PM
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True fact: As a man who's in the 90th percentile for height among white North American males, this is because I am stealing food from shorter men.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 07:54 PM
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You need to google "Todd Akin" and "legitimate rape". You completely missed the joke.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 03:10 PM
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I don't think I can downvote this comment enough. Men can say no, but there are always consequences for doing so that reflect negatively on the man. Those responses are the problem.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 03:07 PM
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I have to disagree, in my opinion the CBC is what keeps news media standards in Canada from slipping into the cesspool of US news. This alone makes it relevant as a news service. The CBC clearly isn't an arm of the government, as they are usually critical of whoever is in office, so we are in agreement on that point.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 02:59 PM
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And now we've completed the circle, so I'll quote myself again: If a woman doesn't want to financially support a child on her own, she should keep her legs closed. Consent to sex is not consent to parenthood.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 07:42 PM
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You have some serious literacy problems, so I'll quote myself: I'm talking about the decision process before the child is born.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 07:12 PM
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I want mothers to think of the best interests of their potential children. If you want financial support for your potential child, maybe you should be having them with someone prepared to willingly offer that support? Let's be clear, I'm talking about the decision process before the child is born. A man who willingly becomes a father is just as responsible to support that child as the mother. The distinction is that every woman who carries a child to term is a willing mother, whereas this is not…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 04:42 PM
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So the continuation of the species is completely dependent on women being able to financially rob men? There are nearly 7 billion people, let's run a little experiment for a couple decades and see what happens. I'm pretty sure we will still have plenty of people around in case I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 04:13 PM
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When a guy is rejected making sexual advances on a woman does the reverse happen often? "Are you a fucking dyke?" "Don't you like dick?" Any women have experiences like that?
/r/MensRights25/10/12 04:02 PM
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If a woman doesn't want to financially support a child on her own, she should keep her legs closed. Doesn't sound so good when the situation is reversed does it?
/r/MensRights25/10/12 03:20 PM
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"I don't care if my wife works or not. She should not have to, but she can if she wants." That's quite a gamble with your personal liberty. I would never be involved with a woman who isn't financially independent.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:30 PM
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I'm pro-choice as well. I find it dishonest when other pro-choice advocates run around claiming that pro-life supporters just want to control women's bodies. They consider it a human life that needs to be protected. I disagree with that position, but I don't need to straw man their position to defend mine.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 11:31 PM
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This is also why children and the mentally disabled have diminished rights. Children aren't entirely responsible for their actions because they are still developing self-awareness and personhood.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 11:27 PM
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And yes, the fact that they shut down life support for brain dead people is testament to the fact that what we value is not life itself or "human DNA". It's the ability to be a conscious being with some kind of subjectivity that actually matters for moral consideration. I was hoping you'd bring this up. It's the proof that what you are saying is true.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 11:25 PM
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This might not be the best advice. Carefully weigh the treatment you are getting from your parents with graduating carrying massive student loan debt. You might be better off shrugging off some abuse for a couple of years so that when you graduate you are in a position to move out instead of looking to move back in.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 11:02 PM
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Did your parents make the right pick or just get lucky? It seems unlikely that anyone is able to predict what they will be like 20 years in the future.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 02:42 PM
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I'm not a statistician, but the isn't the sample size for this study 127 professors, using 63 male and 64 female applicants? That seems to be quite a small number.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 08:24 PM
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I wouldn't have agreed with you in the past. However when the FBI changed their definition of rape as carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will and under the guidance of women's sexual abuse and support organizations replaced it with any kind of penetration of another person, regardless of gender, without the victim's consent I changed my mind. The definition isn't gender neutral because of the word penetration.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 08:01 PM
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I don't think you'll find many people here who are for mandatory maternity leave while against mandatory paternity leave.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 07:36 PM
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Are you trying to argue that a GP should be paid as much as a specialist such as a neurologist? The difference in pay has nothing to do with gender discrimination and everything to do with the difficulty of the job.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 07:29 PM
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I'm sorry for what happened to you, but I can help but feel like your parents response was inadequate. They should have torn a strip off those teachers.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 08:55 PM
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Female privilege. This is something that men learn on the playground as children. You can be a bully, but eventually you'll run into someone willing to punch back.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 08:48 PM
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I'm curious to know if Isobel is aware that the Yale article and her misquote are used as part of the driving force of the whole "Girl Effect" campaign. Think you could ask her?
/r/MensRights12/10/12 03:01 PM
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Just pointing out the word games. Call it whatever you want, the end result is still the same.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 10:55 PM
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Male privilege. These women are being widowed at an alarming rate. Something needs to be done to protect them and their children.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 10:47 PM
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It's the glass half-full / half-empty argument. I get the dishes off the top shelf not because I'm taller, but because my girlfriend is shorter. When I win a game of Scrabble, it's not because I know more words; my opponent knows less words.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 10:09 PM
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Fine, you want to change the dictionary definition of the word to mean systematic discrimination against men. Doesn't this mean that every time I hear "the Patriarchy hurts men too" your statement that "there is no systemic force that discriminates against men" is refuted? There is a systemic force that discriminates against men, the Patriarchy.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 10:02 PM
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Are loads of girls getting unfairly treated while boys are getting educated? The poster says 70% of the world's 130 million out of school youth are girls and cites this source. Human Rights Watch report actually says: Girls make up two out of every three children of school age in the developing world who do not receive a primary education (73 million of the 130 million out-of-school children). These two claims are different from each other. In fact, 73 million out of 130 million is 56% of out of…
/r/MensRights10/10/12 09:33 PM
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I swear it seems this number is made up. The Yale Daily News article doesn't provide a source. The number is cited by the UN Girl's Education Initiative (ungei.org) report Because I am a Girl (2009) on page 9, citing the Nike Foundation. The Nike Foundation runs The Girl Effect. They have an faq which repeats the 90% reinvestment statistic which cites the original Chris Fortson, "Women's Rights Vital for Developing World," Yale News Daily 2003 source.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 08:47 PM
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It seems that the source for this claim is from the Nike Foundation. (2009) The Girl Effect: Not Just about Girls: Engaging Men and Boys is Key to Girls’ Ability to Achieve their Full Potential However, the links provided to this document from other sources all seem to be dead and I can't dig it up anywhere. Anyone else able to find it?
/r/MensRights10/10/12 08:38 PM
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Source for 90% reinvestment Microfinance, or "putting money in women's hands," may make a difference to a country's development as well, she said. Coleman referred to a study that showed while women spend 90 percent of their income on their family, men put only 30 to 40 percent of their earnings toward theirs. When women earn money, she said, they use it to benefit the community. The article doesn't actually cite the study referenced anywhere.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 08:18 PM
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Many people within the atheist community have been trying to point this very issue out. I'm just glad he finally gave it a shot and got a taste of how people are treated by the Atheism+ community.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 05:13 PM
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No sure if you are serious or trolling.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 04:52 PM
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I'm of the position that there are varying levels of severity of rape, just as there is with murder, assault, and theft. Being robbed at gun point is worse than someone breaking my car window and stealing my wallet. If I had to choose between being physically beaten and violently raped or being raped in my sleep, I would choose the latter without hesitation.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 09:40 PM
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(1) When someone mentions the rape study that shows that "only" 5.9% of all rape claims are false, ask the person who cites that study two questions: how many is that in the real world? (No matter how it's calculated its a huge number.) And, are you suggesting that 94.1% of all rape claims are actual rapes? (No serious study says that. The vast majority of all rape claims can't be classified as rape or non-rape, we just don't know. So, even if we know that 5.9 percent of all claims are false, if…
/r/MensRights01/10/12 09:34 PM
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It almost seems the best course of action would be to notify the pharmacist that you are recording the conversation, then ask them for the Emergency Contraception.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 02:27 PM
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Good to know. Next time I'm having sex with my GF, I'll ask for her consent on every pump, just in case she changes her mind.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 02:52 PM
1

If you ran it through a list of pros/cons, I'm not sure that traditionalism adds outweighs the negatives it brings. That being said, even if the MRM movement was vocally against traditionalists, I think it would still be accused of wanting to roll back the clock on women's rights.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 08:12 PM
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You're not the only one. I was sexually assaulted by a female babysitter when I was about 7. "Luckily", I was young enough that I didn't really understand what was happening. At the time it was off-putting and strange, but years later I connected the dots and came to grips with the fact that I had been molested. I've never told my parents, but a couple of years ago I told my girlfriend. I think seeking professional help would be safe. It seems to me you were young enough that nobody in their rig…
/r/MensRights17/09/12 07:52 PM
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What are you upset about? Has a post been removed?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:11 PM
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Patriarchy is a catch all phrase for anything. What can't be attributed to Patriarchy?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:05 PM
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It seems like a majority of comments are in support of the father, which is good to see.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 02:23 PM
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