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But who is the decrease in population ultimately hurting? People like you and me or the powers that be? With AI we don't even know what jobs are going to be available to the vast majority of us in 10 or 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:47 PM
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Hmm you haven't figured out the sham that is our economy yet? You cannot have an economy based upon "infinite growth" on a planet with finite resources. That is a contradiction. A "true economy" if you want to call it that would be an economy that actually seeks balance with the natural order of things, not one that is based upon infinite growth and constantly increasing gdp. That is a species that doesn't know f*ck all about science, resource conservation, nature, pollution, waste, excess consu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:36 AM
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They just like socialism for the rich then. Rugged individualism pull yourself up by the bootstraps for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:32 AM
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I didn't know most men were part of the top 1%? You and I ain't getting no tax breaks or lowered tax breaks. Are you aware of the fact that the entire time we were under Biden we were under Trump's tax policies? Biden and Harris failed to get a tax reform bill passed while in office.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:45 PM
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But voting for people who don't "dislike them" doesn't mean that party or it's policies are doing anything for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:20 PM
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Can you list what tolerance young Republican men have for people on the left?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:11 PM
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If you tell men that, why don't you tell women then to stop complaining that "men won't approach them anymore?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:22 PM
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Oh some women want to be "left alone" and some want an "ego boost?" 😂😂 And men are supposed to know which one is which? Either way approaching does not benefit men. You said it yourself, women just want an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:20 PM
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Your fellow female a few comments up literally said, "women don't want to be approached."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:59 PM
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What proof do you have of your feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:01 AM
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Because their actions and behavior will usually contradict what they're claiming they feel. For example, how many of us have heard women say they want a man that is kind and sweet and respects her, and then you look at the last 10 guys she's been with and none of them have any of those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:59 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:41 AM
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So men should never approach ever then? You literally said you don't want them to approach either. How does this help? All this leads to is less and less people engaging in relationships. You realize men are always going to be put in a lose lose situation right? Approach, get rejected, humiliated, put on blast on social media, get called a creep, weirdo, etc. Don't approach, you literally get nothing. Where is the silver lining for men? Is your position that women are not at fault AT ALL when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:24 PM
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"yes. that's what we've been saying over and over. and over." No, that's what you've been saying over and over. Thousands of women all over the place are complaining that men won't approach them anymore. Your response to this is to handwave it away and say they are simply "rage baiting." So if it makes men uncomfortable that they are constantly the ones expected to approach, what are you going to do about that? You won't do anything because you don't give a shit about what makes men uncomfortabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:48 PM
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Oh so let me get this straight: women are "off limits" in places where socialization is not the expectation? So men are limited to approaching women in places where socializing is the expectation ALONE? Seems like you're putting a lot of limitations on what men can and cannot do. What limitations do you place on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:19 PM
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Gotcha, men are supposed to be mind readers. Plus, this is easy for you to say when you're part of the gender that is never expected to approach men. This is exactly why you don't take dating advice from women. They're offering advice on things that they themselves never have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:19 PM
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Oh...so a man has to engage with bar trash and the shitty environment that is a bar in order to get a girlfriend? Gotcha 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:51 PM
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Except your fellow women will say it's not acceptable there either. And then the rest will complain that men are not approaching them anymore. Women are the ones making it harder than it has to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:42 PM
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Considered acceptable by who? The same women who tell men to stop approaching them? So let me get this straight, if men are the one's expected to approach it has to be when she wants it, when it's acceptable, on her terms, on her time, at his expense? Do you see why men don't want to approach women anymore? You're just creating this dating landmine field where it is impossible for a man to ever win.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:34 PM
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If women do not want to be approached in the first place as you claim, how are men supposed to meet women? You and I both know that dating apps are shit and benefit women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:07 PM
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That's probably some of it. But some of these women seem genuinely concerned that men are not approaching them anymore not realizing they are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:42 PM
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So all the women online complaining that men don't approach them anymore are just full of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:56 PM
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Now tell that to all the women complaining that men won't approach them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:54 PM
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Hmm I never see them approach the attractive ones either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:14 PM
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Reality says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:52 PM
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Huh? So your argument is: men shouldn't approach and women never approach therefore you should just accept your singledom?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:37 PM
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Sure people can live and die single but what does that have to do with my comment? You're arguing men shouldn't be allowed to approach women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:47 AM
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You just proved my point in negating what the other poster said a few comments up where she said he must "warm approach" and see if there is "mutual attraction." Your statement literally contradicts hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:53 PM
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Yeah that's cope. A women could do all those things towards a man giving him the impression that she is attracted to him and ultimately end up saying to him "I just view you as a friend." Your whole "mutual attraction" barometer is complete horsesh*t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:35 PM
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Warm approach? 😂 How does one know there is "mutual attraction?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:05 PM
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If men should not approach at all, how are they supposed to find a potential partner when women never approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:50 PM
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Just another way for women to extort even more money from men on top of expensive dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:20 AM
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Damn why are you so angry? You could have just answered my original question but instead you'd rather sperg out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:59 PM
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Cool, how did you determine they were/weren't abusive before even going on a date with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:32 PM
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Thanks for acknowledging that we live in a gynocentric culture where women are the protected gender and men have no value to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:46 PM
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Okay good luck weeding out abusive men before you even go on a date with them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:21 PM
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Yes, it would be like me telling you to not go on dates with abusive men. You wouldn't know whether they're abusive or not until you went on the date right? Same thing goes for women who expect men to pay for dates/Dutch. You can't know until you go on the date. Please explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:46 PM
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You're still not getting it 🤦. There's not some filter where you can screen out women who expect men to pay on the first date. You don't usually know that until the bill comes. Please explain the process of dating women who go Dutch. You can't bring it up beforehand because there's go the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:24 PM
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Keep being dumb or get no dates. Hmm....🤔 I don't think you understand how this works. So in your world if I ask out 10 women and they all expect the man to pay on the first date, those women are just sh*t and I should just keep trying?😂 Once again I don't think you understand how this works, keep being dumb and not living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:44 PM
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Ahh yes just pick the woman based upon who will go Dutch not based upon who you're attracted to. Women have no clue what's it like to ask men out or pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:40 PM
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Oh so all the women who say, "if a man doesn't pay on the first date he won't be getting a second date," or women who say "men who want to go 50/50 gives me the ick." Those women are all just full of sh*t right? There's no need to broaden my horizons, I live in reality where women don't ever bring up going Dutch. But hey keep living in delulu land.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:33 PM
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Yep right on the money and you're avoiding the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 02:02 AM
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Nope not emotional at all. Your argument is akin to all these women saying they've been seually assaulted or seually harassed by men and you're like "well I don't have a problem with it because it hasn't happened to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:58 AM
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Ahh that's right you're the exception, just like every woman on here. Whenever a clear trend or pattern or common complaint is put forth by women, every woman on here is like "that doesn't apply to me." Okay then every woman making videos on the subject matter are all just lying and full of sh*t then. Which means women's complaints shouldn't be taken seriously then, because hey "I dont have a problem with it."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:50 AM
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How is 63% of men under 30 not in a relationship a majority of men? You then go on to contradict yourself saying 68.5% of men are in a relationship. Your math ain't mathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:46 AM
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It's a non issue but women are going to complain about it anyways? Then say they were "used?" But hey it's all good though 👊
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:22 PM
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Cool, where are the women offering to pay for first dates? Oh that's right they don't exist. Yes men are being used for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:34 PM
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Huh? https://aibm.org/commentary/gen-zs-romance-gap-why-nearly-half-of-young-men-arent-dating/ 61% of men are looking for a relationship https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ This one says 63% of men are single https://medium.com/the-knowledge-of-freedom/heres-the-real-reason-there-are-so-many-single-young-men-it-s-not-what-you-think-ccf7fabc122e
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:32 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/11/14/12th-grade-girls-are-less-likely-than-boys-to-say-they-want-to-get-married-someday/ Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:52 PM
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Cool, so women complaining about getting pumped and dumped by attractive men is a non issue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:38 PM
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You literally ignored everything I said. Typical go date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:36 PM
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Yes they use men all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:35 PM
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"I know most men aren't interesting because I've literally talked to them. All kinds of them, many times. All most, physically unappealing or attractive alike, want from me is children and a maid, of which I want neither fate. I wanted pleasurable sex, stimulating conversation, and quality companionship for life." I know most women aren't interesting because I've literally talked to them. All they wanted was a free meal ticket, personal ATM, and all were liars, narcissists or cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:59 PM
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You like the ego boost it gives you in rejecting men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:56 PM
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But most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:40 PM
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Most men who want a relationship are not in a relationship. Nice baseless assertion there. There's no data to support that. The vast majority of men have not had sex and the ones who have had very little and or very few experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:39 PM
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Women like to reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:36 PM
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This women clearly doesn't understand what it's like to be rejected over and over again. Eventually you get tired of it and give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:32 PM
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So we have to settle for the mask and the disguise while you get to see what a man actually looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:25 PM
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First off most women are incapable of philosophical conversations. Second off, how would you know most men are not interesting? Most men don't even get a chance because they don't meet the looks threshold. You would never know whether they are interesting or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:16 PM
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Fair enough, but can you see why many men do not feel sorry for modern women when they say shit like, "where are all the good men at?" Or I never thought I would be single, unmarried and childfree at this age? etc? If men are the ones expected to shoulder all the burden in finding a women including the rejection, we don't feel sorry for women who take your passive approach and end up forever single. It's your own fault. At least the men tried, these women did nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:09 PM
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How is the scam rate so high when most men are getting zero dates, zero sex, zero relationships, etc? For them to be scammers they would have to actually be getting something. Men don't get anything nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:59 PM
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Men who pick and choose what they want from traditional gender roles end up with zero women and are called losers, brokies, cheap, etc. We don't get the luxury to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:57 PM
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Men shouldn't ask you out either then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:55 PM
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Women do not shower men with love and affection 😂😂😂 Most of the women on here hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:54 PM
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So wouldn't that make the man "the prize" that you like if you believe all men are worthless, cheap and of low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:52 PM
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Oh I'm understanding, and I knew that you would give that response. The point I'm trying to make is men go after women they are truly attracted too. Women only get to pick from the men who approach them. This is why many of them end up single and lonely because they're expecting Mr Right to come along and magically approach them and it never ends up happening. Because they've chose to take your passive approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:50 PM
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You're just proving my point though, women pick and choose what they want from feminism/traditional gender roles. Men do not get this luxury. Men are expected to adhere to traditional gender roles by society and if they don't, they get zero women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:42 PM
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Are you a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:40 PM
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Men can't afford it either but are still expected too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:36 PM
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Cool so we're in agreement that feminism isn't a coherent ideology with a consistent message? It can mean whatever you want it to mean? 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:35 PM
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That's not what all the women on the internet say. They all say men are "afraid" or "intimidated" to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:33 PM
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How is the price of juice men's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:32 PM
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Sure until you tell them you're not interested in getting married and then they leave your ass. Because they perceive you not putting a ring on their finger as "not moving things forward." Your approach only gets you so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:28 PM
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So you're literally confirming what red pillers say, in that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Men are expected to put in all the effort with zero reciprocation and then women wonder why men don't approach anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:20 PM
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So then you ultimately have to "settle" only for the men who approach you rather than getting the men you truly want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:17 PM
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And the man who takes all that initiative ends up getting used because it becomes an expectation from her while he gets nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:13 PM
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So men should be expected to put in a lot of effort and women none?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:10 PM
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Using your logic attractive men shouldn't commit to women because "hey they don't have too." They have their pick of the litter right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:09 PM
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Ahh that's right, women are out there approaching unattractive men they find interesting. 🤦 You can't make this sh*t up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:06 PM
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Of course not, you're not going to fight against traditional gender roles that benefit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:04 PM
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Are men cowards for not approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:01 PM
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If men are the fish, you're acknowledging that we are the catch? Said no woman ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:14 PM
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Then why do women say body count doesn't matter?You seem to acknowledge that women with high body counts hurts them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:59 AM
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Except for the women who say "you men are gonna give up that easy when they're rejected?" And the delusional women expect the rejected man to continue pursuing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:23 AM
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"Men do not offer value?" So when a woman has a baby boy she should tell him from a young age that he offers no value to the world? Typical misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:44 PM
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Well that's good if it's that way in Western Europe, it sure isn't like that in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:43 PM
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Even if I was to accept your anecdote, women are still not going to pursue/approach men patriarchy or not. Almost every women you see online or in real life will tell you firmly "they are not approaching men."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:10 PM
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It is biology/evolution/women's choices though. If you completely took patriarchy out of the equation women would still seek after men who are handsome, have status, money, great bodies, great social skills, etc. For example if we completely got rid of the traditional gender role of men approaching women, do you think women would start approaching the average and below average guys? Of course not. Women are still going to go after men they perceive as high value, the men who are currently succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:33 PM
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That's literally what I was talking about to a commenter further up, and he just said that only applies to "some women" and to "pick better women." Im like 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:54 PM
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And just stuff that pesky high libido down, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:52 PM
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Except when a woman has 4 kids with 4 different baby daddies and men say "pick better men" they're called misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:47 PM
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Except if modern men don't play that traditional role, women call them feminine. When it has nothing to do with being feminine. It has to do with equality, you know that thing women claim they care about. He doesn't approach and talk to her? He's feminine He doesn't ask her out on a date and pay for said date? He's feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:43 PM
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I would agree with everything you said if women were not trying to simultaneously hold onto traditional gender roles that benefit them. If a woman wants to be a feminist boss babe who believes in equality, great good for her. But if she is simultaneously expecting special treatment that came from traditional gender roles when men are not getting that, it makes her look like a hypocrite. If patriarchy is this oppressive thing that hurt both men and women then all aspects of it must be thrown out.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:32 PM
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But not Only fans?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:58 PM
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Damn not even a doctor yet and already 900k+ in savings? Where do I get that kind of money for simply studying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:53 PM
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So then you're aware that your son's future dating experience is bleak?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:15 PM
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"Who said that we’re talking about situations where he genuinely wanted to be in relationship but not anymore?" Then how is it possible for him to coerce you then? "and all of that just for sex." So why didn't the woman leave right off the bat? If she feels like she's being "played" but continues to stay in the relationship with him, who's fault is that? Where is the coercion part at?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:42 PM
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100%, except conditions are not coercion. Just because he agreed to your conditions and accepted/followed them doesn’t mean he "coerced" you when he decides he doesn't want to be in a relationship with you anymore. That's just part of life. You don't get to control people. This sounds like a matter of you picking shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:50 AM
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How are you being coerced into having sex outside of a relationship? You realize it's a two way street right? No one is forcing or coercing you to have sex with them. For example, let's say you make a guy wait to have sex with you because you want a commitment first, okay fair. But once upon him having sex with you he realizes he does not want to be in a relationship with you, that is not coercion or manipulation, he just doesn't want to be in a relationship with you anymore. Nobody owes you a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:16 AM
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How would I be manipulated into having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:21 AM
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I think you have a pretty distorted view of sex. Think about what you're saying, you're basically saying you'll have sex with a guy if agrees beforehand that he somehow "wants something more" or "wants a relationship," etc? You're the one who is making sex out to be a transactional activity where you'll only f**k him if he agrees to commit to you first. Nobody forced or coerced you into having sex with him, you chose to do that on your own. Whatever little stories you tell yourself in your head …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:16 AM
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Well said! 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:38 AM
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WTF 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:25 AM
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No just most
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:29 PM
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So if I've chosen a good woman and can still recognize red pill truths I'm somehow delusional? You realize being red pill aware and picking good women are not mutually exclusive right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:15 PM
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Sure, but you're just making arguments against marriage if women are not good at long term monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 07:14 PM
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So men would be justified then in not wanting to get married because you yourself said women are not good at long term monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:48 PM
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How do you know they're not already doing that? You can't assume every incel guy is just asking out drop dead gorgeous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:04 PM
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So...blue pill advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:00 PM
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Well would you say it's a moral claim if a man says it's not worth it to get married if women are not good at long term monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:59 PM
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So how many women do they have to be rejected by for them to say "it's over?" At some point you have to realize they are wasting their time if they're not having any success. How many times should a 5'4" man try out for the NBA if he's not very good at basketball?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:52 PM
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Maybe it would have been special if you didn't spend 100k on it. Jesus Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:29 AM
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Yep and they will never admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:19 AM
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How are they "too far gone" when they literally have logical reasons as to why they're not getting any dates? Whether they're too short, overweight, bald, unattractive, broke, socially awkward, etc. Those are all logical and valid reasons whether you call them red pill or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:17 AM
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And...the dating apps are a sausage fest. Approaching in person is frowned upon. So no we don't have the same amount of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:13 AM
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Seems like a good argument for why men should not get married. The other women here are literally saying women are not built for longterm monogamy. How is there not a better argument against marriage than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:02 AM
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Except we don't determine what's moral/immoral or "normal" based upon nature. That's called the naturalistic fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:53 AM
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I know reality sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:21 PM
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You need a reality check to understand you're never going to find a good man who's poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:16 PM
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But poly women tend to be liberal rad feminists. Liberal rad feminists hate men. So wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:39 PM
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How is it relevant? Easy. Men are not desirable to poly women. There you go. Easy peasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:29 PM
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Relevant to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:17 PM
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Except Ive never heard of a long term poly relationship working out. People engage in those because they want the benefits of a relationship while still having the freedom to sleep around with who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:05 PM
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Do you think poly is a successful relationship model long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:46 PM
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Never mind
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:04 PM
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Most men are not interested in polyamorous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:58 PM
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But you're poly, most men are not going to want to share a woman with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:55 PM
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I wish I could live in the land of make believe as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:11 PM
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No it's clearly something I haven't observed my entire life. Not for me nor for any other guy I know. So no I don't have to keep telling myself that. If women actually approached men, we would never see all these women complaining that they're single, childless, unmarried, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:40 AM
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This just goes to show that women clearly dont know how to approach a man without sounding like a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:31 AM
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"Hello. I dont commit to women who clearly express they are not sexually attracted to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:28 AM
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I'll just regurgitate your talking point from earlier. "I have literally never observed this in real life." Every blue collar company I have ever observed is overwhelming being done by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:38 AM
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I have no problem with women choosing to be single. Be my guest. I do have a problem with women who shit on men their entire twentys and thirties and complain that they're single and lonely and have no self awareness that they are the reason for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:35 AM
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Nah you just don't want to accept reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:30 AM
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Red pill shit? You mean reality shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:29 AM
1

But women are completely capable of playing golf and have their own PGA tour. We see very few real world examples of them performing these types of jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:28 AM
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Holy shit you are dense. You can literally type in exactly what I said to type in on YouTube and find tons of these pathetic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:26 AM
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You're not a feminist? Oh so then recognize that women are full of shit who are promoting that ideology. Why dont most women want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:23 AM
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Literally search on youtube, women crying because she can't find a man and you will get hundreds if not thousands of videos showing this exact thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:22 AM
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Ahh so that literally applies to your argument as well. You dont see any of it because your in mom Facebook groups. Of course it's not going to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:19 AM
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But youre a feminist. Why shouldn't women being doing those jobs as well? You said women are prioritizing career and education right? Just not in the jobs that no one wants to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:17 AM
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Then you are living under a rock. These women are literally all over the internet with their crocodile tears complaining that they cant find a man, that theyre childless, and unmarried. If that's gullibility for having this stuff practically shoved into my face, then I guess that makes me gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:15 AM
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Huh? Women can take the white collar careers that pay more? Who's gonna do all the blue collar jobs that pay less?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:09 AM
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Yeah it's happening in reality. Tik tok and YouTube is absolutely filled with these crazy women. I'm probably older than you, how is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:07 AM
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If men are disqualifying half of their competition, why are women not taking on jobs that have been traditionally and exclusively done by men? How is it disqualifying when women to this very day have no interest in doing these types of jobs? I hope I dont have to list them for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:04 AM
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If they are happy with that choice, why are they literally crying, saying theyre depressed, and that they should've had these things in their life by now? Especially the ones who say they were lied to by feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:58 AM
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You said women are checking out after realizing men are not worth it. Why should anyone feel sorry for these women who are in this predicament who have that exact same mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:53 AM
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Men had it on easy mode most of history? 🤦‍♂️ We won't talk about how men were essentially completely disposable in all of the wars throughout history. But this is besides the point, you want to punish modern men for things we had nothing to do with in the past? Offer more? Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:51 AM
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Cool, which is why I feel literally no sympathy for women in their late 30s and early 40s who complain, "where are all the good men at?" Who complain that no one wants to marry them and that they're childless despite wanting both of those things. Too bad, you brought it entirely onto yourselves and no one should feel sorry for these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:46 AM
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No, when women are outperforming men and as such dont want anything to do with men, there's not a whole lot men can do. This just further proves that women are only going to go after the most successful men. https://spartanshield.org/42176/feature/its-a-girls-world/#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20McKinsey%20%26%20Company,compared%20to%20their%20male%20counterparts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:40 AM
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Except women have checked out after looking at their abundance of options and saying "yeah none of them are good enough." Meanwhile most men literally have zero options. You yourself already stated that dating apps are a complete sausage fest. Women have options, men dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:32 AM
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Except many men don't have social circles or are not allowed in other's social circles hence why they resort to dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:30 AM
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Unfortunately that is the standards of most modern women. Once again, you think men not getting dates is simply because of men's actions? Many men have literally checked out due to "women's standards."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:26 AM
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Ahh men who were already part of your social group and or were already friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:21 AM
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Then you clearly haven't been paying attention to what is happening in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:19 AM
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You just proved my point. Meanwhile women are celebrated for having standards that include: Must be at least 6ft tall Must be in good shape, but he cant be a gym bro Must make 6 figures if not more The man must pay for most of the dates The man must be the one who approaches, asks out, sets up date, pays for date, makes the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:17 AM
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This is actually true. Do you think men just stopped approaching women for no reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:12 AM
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Ive legitimately never seen a woman approach a man, but okay 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:10 AM
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When men have standards they are demonized for their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:03 AM
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Women will argue tooth and nail that it is easy for a man to get laid when this is patently untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:02 AM
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You forgot to add, women dont want men to approach them either. So presto, you literally acknowledge that men have no avenue then to actually get a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:00 AM
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Oh so all the women online saying it's easy for a man to get a date, sex, relationships, etc are all full of shit then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:57 AM
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Then you acknowledge that men have it harder than women 🤭🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:36 AM
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keep telling yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:27 AM
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You realize a man could say the exact thing you just said?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:18 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:14 AM
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Why would a man commit to a woman who has made it clear she doesn't want to fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:06 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:58 PM
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So you're saying it would be in men's best interest to not waste our time approaching women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:44 PM
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Take some accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:22 AM
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Feminism has everything to do with it. As women's pay has to continued to go up and sometimes surpasses men, you women refuse to pay for anything to this very day. It was never about equality, it was always about female supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:20 AM
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Yes blinded by the hatred and misandry of women. You literally want me to deny reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:17 AM
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So you would date a man who made $35k a year? Can't wait for the lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:16 AM
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So if it was male dominated systems that created these conditions, is it feminism that has created these conditions where women refuse to pay for anything when it comes to dating and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:14 AM
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Where are all these women at offering to pay for dates and willing to date brokies? Oh that's right they don't exist. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:12 AM
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Literally every woman I've ever seen asked that question says she expects a man to make more than her. Ive never seen a woman say, "Im okay with him making less money than me."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:00 AM
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Yes, statistically speaking most men are not sexual predators. Simply look at the ratio of men in prison for sexually related crimes and compare it to every man who is not in prison. You will easily see the vast overwhelming majority of men are not sexual predators. Yes most women expect men to make more than them, where is the hypocricy? We are talking about two unrelated things. How did men create that problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:04 AM
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Yeah, just the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:25 PM
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Yes most women expect men to make at least what they make or more. The whole, "I ain't dating no brokies" trope is constantly reiterated by women. Why are women with partners who are "forcing" them to have sex? Isn't that what you women would tell men, to "find better women?" I'm denying reality? You literally believe more men are raping women (that is force) than women expecting men to be providers? That is laughable. Almost every women on planet earth expects men to make more than them and be …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:24 PM
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Ahh so it's the classic case of "all men are rapists and sexual assaulters?" You realize 99% of men are not harming, forcing, or coercing anybody. The vast majority of men on this subreddit can't even get a date from a woman. Not compromising? Men compromise all the time, we have too. We don't have the protection of the state like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:39 PM
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Where are all the countless videos, stories, accounts of men saying women paid for their dates? Oh thats right they don't exist. Men shouldn't expect sex in a relationship? This is just another classic case of "Im an exception." Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:32 PM
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Pleas explain how women "find" men when they literally don't do any pursuing, they don't set up dates, they don't pay for dates, they don't approach men, they say 80% of men are unattractive, they say they don't need a man, etc. WTF are you talking about? Men approaching you and you rejecting everyone of them until you find one you like does not constitute as you "finding men." I know I know, youre gonna tell me youre one of the exceptions who does all those things, right? 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:49 PM
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You mean they found you? Women don't "find" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:33 PM
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Sure, except women will tell you the bar/standards are in hell, and when you go out on a date with them you soon realize their standards are not attainable by 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:11 PM
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So is that a valid argument when men tell women you need to pick better men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:48 PM
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If the woman is the main breadwinner, then you're acknowledging that women make more money than men do nowadays, correct? Why is the man still expected to pay for all these first dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:19 PM
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Except women who make good money still expect men to pay for everything. This is why men don't care about how much money a woman makes, because: 1)We don't have access to it. 2) You're not going to spend it on us anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:01 PM
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You mean like how nobody gives a shit about men's mental health? Or how men account for 80% of suicidal deaths? You're gonna have to do better than that Octopus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:11 AM
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Give me an example
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:32 AM
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Except you are punishing modern men who grew up in a gynocentric feminized society for the way men treated women in the past. We are not responsible for this. We are not responsible for this in the same way modern men/women are not responsible for slavery that took place in the US in the 1800s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:45 PM
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Yes, the caste system, while officially abolished by the Indian Constitution in 1950, still exists in India and continues to influence various aspects of life, particularly in social interactions and marriage practices. Straight from Google
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:57 AM
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Your guy's left wing and right wing in India are far more different than the way it is in America. Plus, India has a caste system which is complete dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:50 AM
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Oh I know what "god fearing" means I just disagree with it in the context of the way the Biblical god is portrayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:34 AM
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Sure, but the god of the Bible is so insecure that he will send you to an eternity of hellfire if you don't love him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:29 AM
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I would never expect my daughter to fear me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:03 AM
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I'm so glad I don't have to do the mental gymnastics of having to simultaneously love and fear a god.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:29 PM
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Where is here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:18 PM
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Damn sorry, chill out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:22 PM
2

But you just said you expect a man to approach you? Should he also not expect certain things of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:16 PM
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So what attributes does your man expect you to have assuming you are partnered up?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:52 PM
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Cool, so were done with the gender wage gap myth then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:27 AM
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Do women routinely consider themselves hot and 10s? Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:08 PM
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Most young women are in relationships though so it is attainable. Except many of those men they are in a relationship with are not "good men." They are only "attractive" and thats why women are with them. Its to the point now where women are literally saying "nice guys" give them the ick. Women will routinely look past all the bad behavior and negative traits of a man if she finds him attractive while an unattractive man who is nice literally gets nothing. What would u define good as a man thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:01 PM
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Ahh see thats where you're wrong. These women all say theyre "hot" and rate themselves all 10s despite men saying we want a more natural look and not all that fake looking trash. Women are much more influenced by other women when it comes to beauty standards than what "men find hot." Women will routinely say ALL THE TIME they don't care what a man thinks or what a man finds attractive, they are doing it for themselves or their girlfriends. Glad to know we are in agreement when a woman finds hers…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:45 PM
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You're missing the point. There are plenty of cars that she wants and are both good cars, but are still sitting on the lot for almost two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:34 PM
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Yes, what women consider good is unattainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:32 PM
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That is literally impossible because you say it yourself, he is attractive. He can only be attractive if a woman is attracted to him. Attraction doesn’t occur in a vacuum. So when women do all this stuff to make themselves more "attractive," hair, nails, makeup, botox, lip fillers, expensive clothes, etc. and deem themselves "hot." You're then saying those women are f*cking delusional correct? Because hey your words, "attraction doesn't occur in a vacuum." These women literally believe they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:20 PM
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The comment is coherent youre just realizing how ridiculous women's standards are. When a man can literally be a "good man" and both "attractive" he will still get left by the wayside and get no attention from women. This is one of the many reasons why men are complaining. It doesn't matter how attractive you are or how good you are it is never enough for most women. Despite women telling men we just need to accept them for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:07 PM
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"No good cars" despite her thinking they are in fact attractive. In other words, there are plenty of attractive cars that are also "good." But this is never good enough for unrealistic standards. Are you implying there’s an equivalent in dating and attraction? Because there’s not. External parties cannot deem one man worthy of a woman or vice versa, it’s entirely their choice what’s “good enough The things that women find attractive in men are not completely subjective and therefore unable to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:00 PM
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I have no problem if a woman is "single by choice." That's fine, but when asked it's usually because there are "no good men out there." That's not really single by choice, that's single because you think there are no good men worth dating. This is where you're wrong again. "I'M" not the sole one deeming them great. This is why we have all sorts of different independent organizations who rate cars based upon their safety, features, comfort, reliability, etc. Its not like I'm just arbitrarily deem…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:45 PM
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Walk/catch public transport is obfuscating from the analogy. We're talking about cars, not different means of transportation. You're proving my point by demonstrating that despite there being plenty of great cars available you can never be pleased. If you check out/test drive multiple cars from different lots/manufacturers and hate them all despite everyone saying they are pleasantly satisfied with said car, then it's probably not the car, it's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:22 PM
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So if a person wants a new car and says "there's no good cars" available despite there being an abundance of great cars, is that person being unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:55 PM
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And then complaining there are no good men. It's like walking onto a car dealership lot with all these brand new cars and saying, there are no good cars here. At some point either your idea of what a good car is, is terribly flawed or you're purposely being unrealistic and unreasonable with your standards. You can't expect men to be something they're not just like you can't expect a car to be something more than a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:49 PM
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So in other words, you want men to feel empathy for you in regards to not wanting to ask men out "due to the results" you got. While when men discuss their feelings in regards to rejection, public humiliation, being called a creep, etc. you couldn't give two shits. That is what this ultimately boils down too. At the end of the day you want access to traditional gender roles when it benefits you or is convenient for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:19 PM
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No response?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:04 PM
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I'm quite happy actually! You're just projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:49 AM
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Approximately 63% of men under 30 in the U.S. are single, according to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey. 70%? Where did you get that number?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:30 PM
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Wow talk about being braindead. Please give me the ratio of men getting dates vs women? I think it's fair to say women are getting asked out more and therefore more dates than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:21 PM
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I don't find anything he said to be incorrect or unrealistic. You just seem miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:14 PM
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Then what was the result you didn't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:05 PM
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Jesus this comes off as very selfish and entitled. Imagine if a man wrote what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:43 PM
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"I tried to ask men out, I didn’t like the result." What was the result? If it was rejection, welcome to a man's world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:42 PM
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"The man has to be a natural leader that they want to follow, not a man who rocks up and goes "I am the head of the household" or "I am the captain of the ship" So then you agree with red pill in that men need to become the best version of themselves physically, emotionally, financially, etc. so women will "want" to follow his lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:20 AM
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But he can commit all those things to you without being married. Marriage doesn't change any of those things. You just want the protection of the state if the marriage goes south while he gets no protection whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:52 PM
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This is what all women say until the divorce proceedings happen. The woman you marry is not the same woman you divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:49 PM
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Huh? Your argument is that queer woman don't expect things out of relationships? And therefore that's the reason why they have such a high divorce rate? I would think it would be the opposite, where a heterosexual woman expects too much in a relationship sometimes from her partner therefore leading to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:01 PM
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What do you mean won't work? Why do gay men have no problem staying together? Its almost like you acknowledge the existence of traditional gender roles despite probably being opposed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:27 PM
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I'm so straight that I treat same sex couples the same way I treat everyone else without having to assign "special gender dynamics" to them. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:23 PM
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Why not lesser than you? Shouldn't you just "woman up?" Marriage is a risk after all (your words.) If you're looking to minimize risk then you're just proving the men's point on here that marriage is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:40 AM
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Except gray divorces (divorces over the age of 50) have doubled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:25 AM
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There is a reason why women are considered "complex". its because they have access to BOTH parts of themselves and can exhibit both spectrums of traits masculine and feminine." Because women in the west are praised and rewarded for being masculine. Men are looked down upon, mocked, criticized, looked over by woman, etc. for embracing femininity. Sorry it's not the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:20 AM
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What the hell does their sexual orientation have to do with anything? "Queer marriage dynamics?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:02 AM
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So now you're saying sex is the reason for dating when you've previously said dating is for relationships. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:15 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:53 PM
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You used the word "should" there in regards to what a man should do. Is a man allowed to say what a woman "should" do or are you going to pull the misogyny card?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:49 PM
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"If you told a woman you’re just dating for sex, you think most would accept?" No, but that is not what I'm advocating for. What I'm saying is, a man goes out with a woman for 1,2,3, dates etc. and she decides to have sex with him. After having sex with her, he decides it is not worth it and does not want to pursue a relationship with her. Nowhere in that process was the woman "used." If you're gonna say she was used, then I'm gonna say he was used for a free meal ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:21 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 "We will say so?" Ahh so when a man takes you out on a date with the understanding that you are dating and will have sex (at some point) he is assuming their will be a relationship at some point? Meanwhile in that dating "process" you might be talking to other guys and even having sex with other guys. Why is he obligated to be in a relationship with you when he has no way of knowing you're not fucking other dudes in the "dating process?" Women will tell men all the time they want to date him…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:55 PM
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Except men have no way of differentiating the women who just want to "fuck" and the woman who want to date. And once again you're proving my point, you're fucking because you "think" you're in a relationship. Unless he has explicitly said he wants to be exclusive with you he is under no obligation to provide you a relationship. Youre literally equating sex with relationship. Sex = relationship. That is the logic you're using
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:17 PM
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Once again, this doesn't mean you are being used. You literally proved my point that you think having sex with a man obligates him to a relationship with you. Through your own words you're literally making sex out to be a transactional thing. He gets sex you get a relationship. Sorry, that's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:14 PM
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How are you being "used" if you agreed to have consensual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:00 PM
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This completely misses the point of what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:47 PM
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Noone is entitled to a relationship either. Too many women feel they get "used" by having sex with a guy they consensually agreed to have sex with and think that obligates him to a relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:28 AM
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If that was the case why would the women in the original comment stick around for years waiting for a man to marry her? If it was a worse deal for women they would not stick around hoping that he proposes to her. If it was a worse deal for women, why are they the ones pressuring men into getting married? That is what my wife did to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:37 PM
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Oh so it's "men don't read" instead of you inaccurately posting what it is you meant to say? Sorry, men are not mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:45 PM
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How did I prove your point? I'm asking for clarification? I don't know what it is you're asking? I thought women were supposed to be excellent communicators?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:36 PM
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I don't have to read posts on that sub, women talk about that subject on this sub all the time. What who wants? And what who says?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:27 PM
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Sure, but your comment itself literally says they don't want to discuss marriage. They're literally saying they don't want to get married, at that point it's up to the woman to decide if she wants to stick around or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:19 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with it. First off, she has every opportunity to leave, no one is forcing her to stay in a relationship with him. Second off, that man is losing all leverage in that relationship once he puts that ring on her finger. But go ahead tell me how marriage is such a great deal for men. 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:01 PM
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So then you're cool with dudes spending money on Onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:45 PM
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Sure, they'll have to deal with the "consequences" of their preferences. The problem is they'll still blame men for not meeting those standards instead of evaluating their own life. Women can have whatever preferences they want, but it's not men's fault for not meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:04 PM
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You can say the claim that "women are too picky" or have "unrealistic expectations" or to "high of standards" is a false assumption to make, but we already know through statistics and from women's mouth's themselves that they don't find the vast majority of men attractive or compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:25 PM
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Sure, but you're holding modern men accountable for things we didn't do in the 1950s. Its like holding modern day white people for slavery in the 1800s. They had nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:04 PM
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So where do you draw the line at between being a simp and a sensitive/caring/emotionally vulnerable guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:20 PM
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So why are you Red pill when almost no one in the manoswamp talks about being sensitive, caring, emotionally vulnerable?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:34 PM
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So you're saying women (generally speaking) aren't going to care about your peronality/emotional vulnerabilities if you don't first pass the looks threshold? If so, why do guys who are *ssholes, douchebages, who are attractive have no problem getting women? These women don't seem to care about his personality/emotional side as long as he is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:27 PM
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So I take it you don't subscribe to the Red pill idea of men needing to be more stoic and all?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:32 PM
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I don't know, I guess I've never heard a story of a man being more emotionally vulnerable leading to more sex or to his wife treating him better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:03 PM
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That's an interesting take, (I have a young daughter btw) and would say I agree with a lot of the red pill ideas. Unfortunately I have read countless stories and comments from men who have "opened" up to their wives/girlfriends and been emotionally vulnerable and every single one of them has said it backfired on them horribly, eventually leading to divorce. I get the whole being sensitive/caring thing but it's hard to distinguish the difference between what women say "they want" vs what they act…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:42 PM
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Well Trump himself literally said, it was great what Elon did with the voting machines in Pennsylvania. I can literally pull up the actual quote if you need me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:05 AM
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That's an interesting take on your son with you being red pilled. Most red pillers would steer away from the sensitive and caring traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:01 AM
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Then why do so many women say they value being single better? Why do so many women say they don't need a man anymore for anything? Why do women say that he needs to enhance her life in some way? It doesn't really seem like women like men more than men like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:33 AM
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You realize it's the other way around? If a woman is happier being on her own a man has to add quite a bit to her life to be considered. That makes the bar quite high, not low.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:00 PM
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I'm so glad I have never used the term "woke" to describe somebody. Every time I hear that word, I think "that guy is r*tarded."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:46 PM
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So then why did my wife and almost every other married guy I know get pressured to get married by the woman they are/were with? If marriage is such a shitty deal for women, then why are they the ones almost exclusively pressuring the guy to put a ring on her finger?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:16 AM
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Except he struck up the conversation first. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:38 PM
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Oh so in a relationship the man has to care more and the woman has to care less? That's some good mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:37 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 Yeah okay. I'll believe that when I actually see a woman change a flat tire in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:35 PM
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Lay it out for me. Please explain how you have pursued a man before.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:42 PM
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I work in an industry that involves a lot of manual labor. Guess how many women work in the environment that I work in? ZERO Btw I've never seen a woman successfully change a flat tire my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:06 AM
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Funny how we never observe that actually happening in society. Are you gonna fight off a 250 lb male home invader too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:53 AM
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How am I wrong? You don't pursue men so by definition you ultimately have to settle for whatever guy comes your way. There is no other way around this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:44 AM
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That's hilarious 😂 considering men date down and women date up. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:07 AM
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Ahh so it's okay for the bottom 80% of men to be publicly humiliated when approaching women and getting rejected, but not women? It's just a humiliation ritual for the man and an ego boost for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:44 AM
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Said no women ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:40 AM
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So in a relationship the man should care less in order to win?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:20 AM
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"Women want to choose men who feel strongly about them. This will never happen unless the man feels like he picked the one" Until she uses this as leverage to get him to simp for her and put her on a pedestal ultimately controlling the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:54 PM
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Until she's picked and then tries to change the dynamic of the relationship by leading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:50 PM
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Yes you as a woman have to ultimately settle for whatever comes your way because you'll never actually take the initiative to pursue the man you actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:47 PM
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It's easy to say that when you've probably NEVER asked a man out or changed a tire for a man. But hey go on with your pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:45 PM
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So women should not approach men because it's convenient for them not too? Should men stop helping women with changing a flat tire because hey it's convenient for them not too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:35 PM
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So it wouldn't bother you if you found out the guy you were dating had slept with 300 different women? You think you're the one who he's magically going to commit to?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:00 AM
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Wrong. Because a person who has a high body count has clearly demonstrated they don't value relationships and as such are not worth committing too. You can't have a high body and a history of long term committed relationships, that's a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:48 AM
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Okay bye little bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:37 AM
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Sure, but they're never going to give you their best treatment, according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:32 AM
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Where's that line at 😂? Some women will say they are not promiscuous but have "had some sex" but have a body count of 75. Your idea of "has had some sex" is another person's idea of promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:30 AM
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Good luck with befriending men who reserve their best treatment for other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:26 AM
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Why are you posting on here then? Using your logic you can't make any assumptions, generalities, observations, judgements, etc. of other people because "hey you're not dating them." 🤦 WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:24 AM
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But why does it matter if they're doing it because they're empty, bored, depressed because no women will give them a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:21 AM
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Then why did you post it? What's the point of posting something you don't agree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:19 AM
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“ To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:17 AM
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OMG so as men were not even allowed to say we've observed women with shitty men? Have you not seen shitty women with good men? If so, then the reverse is true. Stop making this so complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:13 AM
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Do I have to literally post what you wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:11 AM
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Women enjoy the company of men despite you LITERALLY claiming they offer no positive treatment towards them? You literally wrote that. Jesus Christ 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:10 AM
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So you would commit to a woman who has clearly demonstrated through her behavior that she doesn't value relationships? But rather enjoys being the village bicycle?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:07 AM
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Where are all these women at saying they want a man who is a virgin? I've never heard a woman say they prefer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:04 AM
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Well said 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:02 AM
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Is this kind of like the thing where women get all dolled up for their friends, hair, nails, makeup, outfit, etc and say it's not for him but her friends? Their heterosexual behavior is clearly homo-erotic for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:58 AM
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Did you not read my other comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:56 AM
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Ahh so you're cool with being friends with men while simultaneously stating they reserve their best treatment, revere, honor, adoration, etc for other men? If that that's the case lol, why would you ever befriend men when you believe they only reserve their best treatment for other men? Do you befriend men who treat you like shit? No? So then you're little poetic diatribe is completely debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:52 AM
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Clearly your fellow women have no problem hooking up with shitty men, men who are abusive, men who only want sex from them, men who are not loyal, cheaters, etc. But yes I know I know you're one of the exceptions who doesn't do any of that stuff right? Women are out there just picking all the great men right 😂? It's not like women are telling men that being a "nice guy" gives them the ick or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:46 AM
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Would men rather hang out with other men or women? Why aren't men befriending all the ugly women, the obese women, the women with poor hygiene, etc? It's almost like men are befriending women who they are attracted too. Nah...can't be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:40 AM
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Once again, never said that. Who's saying men are following these directives? I'm pointing out the terrible stuff women say to men who expect men to be okay with dating them. Daddy issues much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:38 AM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:35 AM
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You literally contradicted yourself by saying "it's easy to dismiss the idea that women want to mate with wealthy men" while simultaneously in your next paragraph talk about how many women prefer someone who is financially stable, good credit, ample money in savings, inheritances, investments, etc. Jesus Christ you can't make this stuff up 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:31 AM
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So exactly as I stated, you're claiming you're an exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:26 AM
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Ahh so women have never said to a man who isn't interested in any of these types of women that he is "insecure" or "intimidated" or that he just needs to "accept her as she is?" How many times have we heard from women that men need to be okay with her being an OF content creator, or be okay with her being a single mom, or be okay with her simultaneously dating 5 other dudes? Men hear this shit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:25 AM
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Who said anything about coercion? Why do you women have to twist everything men say? I'm simply stating if a woman says she just wants to be "friends" just move on. There's no point in being in the friendzone hoping that she'll magically give you a chance at some point. Just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:20 AM
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So in the same way that you claim that men ran off to a fringe cult to complain, men are learning who the morally depraved women are and to avoid them. OF content creators, single moms, pick mes, gold diggers, liars, friend zoners, verbally abusive, promiscuous, etc. All the red pill does is point out these types of women and these bad traits in women and how to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:17 AM
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So to tell a man to focus on bettering himself (gym, money, status, appearance, hygiene, etc), to learn to set boundaries, to not settle for the friend zone, to not be manipulated by women's emotions, etc. is hatred of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:11 AM
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There's many aspects to it, I'll list just a few things. Would you not agree that since women can only carry a baby once a year (generally speaking) that they are hardwired to find the best mate possible? That's part of hypergamy. Women by and large don't ask men out or pursue men and expect men to do this. There are many reasons for this but it's female nature nonetheless. Women generally don't want to date broke men (by their own admission) that's female nature. Do you want more? I know I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:58 PM
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Once again no evidence provided by you of anything I said as being hateful. WHERE IS THE HATEFUL PART? You're just making a bunch of claims and hope no one calls you out on it. I have no problem arguing for my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:45 PM
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Where is the seething and plotting? LOL, I don't think women are consciously spending their time seething and plotting on men, that's just their nature. They're not doing it consciously it's just who they are. In the same way you think men's preferences are shallow and unrealistic women's are just as bad if not worse. You just want men to think your preferences aren't unrealistic, shallow and not based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:26 PM
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What about being red pill makes men hateful? This sounds like projection. Men understanding women's nature isn't all sugar and spice and everything nice and then react accordingly. That's not hate that's accepting reality muscle mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:05 PM
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You don't have to think about it. Women's behavior is what has red pilled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:55 PM
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Let's more information come out? There's already enough information. Are you aware of the fact that over 3 million Americans were purged from voter rolls, many of whom were black? If they were not purged Kamala would have won. Some of whom were literally veterans in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:46 PM
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First off, congratulations on putting words in my mouth. Second off, why are you obfuscating and completely avoiding my point about federal workers? Yes black conservatives are f*ckin dumb as well. Pet e Hegseth is literally erasing the records of black veterans who fought for this country such as Jackie Robinson, Colin Powell and others. Congrats on being an uninformed moron 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:28 PM
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Sure, he is a symptom of a bigger problem but he is still a terrible human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:20 PM
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I agree. I despise the sh*t stain that is Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:17 PM
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Well I had to use the word r*****ed because that is all you conservatives respond too. You guys only respond to violence and name calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:15 PM
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So then you agree with me then that Trump and his butt buddy Elon have f*cked over federal workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:13 PM
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Sure Democrats didn't do much for white men, but what have Republicans done for white men? I am a white man btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:06 PM
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What about all the federal workers who fired unconstitutionally? If you need me to explain I will, but I hope you're not that retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:00 PM
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You realize there is a word for someone who does not experience empathy right? Sociopath or psychopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:28 PM
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Why does a man being empathetic turn you off? So if a man recognizes that other people can suffer as he suffers, that's a turn off? If a man has the ability to put himself in "someone else's shoes" that is a turnoff? In other words a man should only care about issues that directly affect him? I guess I shouldn't have empathy for my wife or daughter because they are not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:30 PM
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How well do you two get along if she's leftist and you're red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:24 PM
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What are you defining as "thrive?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:44 AM
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Dimwit, commie, little man, is that all you got? You realize it makes you sound like a stupid teenage boy right? Like if I called you a MAGAT, you would instantly recognize that as stupid right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:39 AM
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So... appeal to tradition fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:37 AM
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You know what an ad hominem fallacy is? You've literally presented no arguments, but rather name calling (commie.) That's how you know you're losing. But then again you probably don't care about logic or reason either because that would make someone a "commie" right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:33 AM
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Yes I understand we are social creatures and as such need social stimulation. I was speaking in colloquial terms where I know people who think they need to go out every Thurs, Fri, Sat night to socialize. I don't need that nor do I want that. You have heard of the idea of overstimulation right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:58 PM
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Being introverted is not the same thing as isolation. I never said social interaction isn't good for your health. But being in a social situation with people you don't like where you feel like you have to make small talk isn't healthy or positively stimulating. I would rather be doing something else. I'm 40 years old, probably older than than you. Have you ever sat with yourself for 8 hrs or more learning how to play an instrument? If not then you don't know what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:47 PM
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Why are you assuming relationships are the only things that can provide stimulation? I'm not saying people just seek out relationships for validation, but you're implying that people are "obligated" to give you external stimulation. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:21 PM
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But I thought men were the ones more violent than a bear in the woods?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:33 PM
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Because she wants to stay in the relationship despite not listening to anything he has to say. So if my example is "controlling" what's not controlling then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:36 PM
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Got it, she shouldn't ever take his opinion into consideration. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:07 PM
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So if a man is in a relationship where he loves his girl and she loves him, he should be okay with her doing whatever she wants regardless of what he thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:54 PM
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Cool, so men should dump women who exhibit these behaviors then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:40 PM
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So men should be okay with their girlfriends/wives going out to the bars and getting drunk, flirting with other dudes and doing god knows whatever else?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:27 PM
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But those traits you're describing that are commonly associated with a specific gender, you would agree with me that "most" people want their partner to have to those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:24 PM
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The problem I have is what women are defining as toxic. For example, a man might say he's not cool with his woman going out to the bars with her girlfriends and getting drunk, flirting with other dudes, getting free drinks, attention/validation from other guys and the man finds that disrespectful. The woman then says, "you're trying to control me" that's "toxic masculinity." When in reality it's just a respect issue towards your partner. To me women will use the term toxic masculinity for anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:37 PM
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See that seems like wanting to have it both ways. You say you're opposed to gender roles, but at the same time say there are certain roles or traits that men or women should adhere to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:46 PM
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So you're pro gender roles then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:10 PM
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Why don't you do yourself a favor and crack open a dictionary. Violence happens because people say stupid shit like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:50 AM
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I agree with everything you've said, but I see videos all the time of women saying "down with gender roles" but then still expect men to adhere to specific roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:36 AM
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So you're in favor of throwing out all gender roles as well? If so, what does "positive masculinity" even mean then if there are no gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:05 AM
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I guess one of the problems I see with this toxic masculinity/femininity conundrum is it then implies that there is "good masculinity" or "good femininity." Then you have people gatekeeping or deciding what THEY think is positive masculinity or femininity which becomes a problem in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:55 AM
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My reading comprehension is just fine. What are "true" beliefs around masculinity then if you believe there are false ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:41 AM
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I understand the point you're making and I also have a daughter that is almost a teenager. However I don't know if I would describe those behaviors or attitudes as toxic femininity. I'm in my 40s so I'm old enough to know that no one was using these terms toxic femininity/masculinity when I was growing up. Maybe it's just easier for me to label these types of behaviors and attitudes as toxic rather than tying them to a specific gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:39 AM
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Please list examples then of toxic femininity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:25 AM
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No because you're trying to tie specific traits and behaviors to men or "masculinity" when those behaviors are not gender specific. Those behaviors can be had by anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:23 AM
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Then that's not masculinity and that's not how the term is being used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:18 AM
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Yes in a very limited context describing violent prisoners in the prisoners system. The term then got co opted and used in mainstream society where it was misused.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:16 AM
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If I'm not mistaken I believe there is a study that says women commit more child abuse as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:14 AM
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Violence is masculine? What?😂😂😂 Show me definition in the dictionary that specifically states that Violence has anything to do with gender. Good god this is getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:10 AM
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What are examples of toxic femininity then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:07 AM
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Let's hear the examples of toxic femininity then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:05 AM
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What did he make up?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:04 AM
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Exactly. That's what I've been trying to explain to some of these dipsh*ts. Toxic behaviors and attitudes are not gender specific. It's like saying, what are examples of "toxic femininity" that only applies to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:03 AM
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Except positive masculinity isn't a thing either. These positive traits you believe in can be possessed by anybody correct? Therefore they have nothing to do with masculinity. It's just called being a good human.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:01 AM
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Define what masculinity is then. Then make the connection between your definition and what you're calling "toxic." If you're gonna say there are "positive" forms of masculinity because you believe there are "toxic" ones, what are these positive ones? Whatever these positive forms are, are just called "being a good human being." It has nothing to do with masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:58 AM
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But their abuse of women has nothing to do with masculinity. If a man molests a little child does that have anything to do with masculinity? No. That guy is is just a monster and scum of the earth. You have to tie abusing a woman specifically to masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:55 AM
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So then what is toxic femininity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:51 AM
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That's because your friend can get away with it. If he was an average Joe schmo working at a dead end job, unathletic, unattractive, not rich, his views would only get him so far with women. You do realize professional athletes literally have women throw themselves at them right? Do you really think those women give a shit about what those guy's believe? Obviously when your an ex NFL player you can pretty much say and do whatever you want and get away with it. This is not new or miraculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:18 AM
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Nevermind
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:37 PM
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So you would date a woman who's views are incompatible with yours? What would you even talk about if you have completely different worldviews?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:34 PM
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So...what if she is an educated working woman who is a liberal. You said "not views."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:28 PM
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Sure, there are dudes who are just looking for sex. But if a woman consents to sex with a man that's it, sex. If she is expecting more from him than just sex, then she needs to make that clear or leave him. No one is forcing her to be in a "situationship" with a man just using her for sex. But it seems like your implying that just because she has sex with him, he needs to do xyz for her. That is transactional. If you're using sex as a leveraging tool to get what you want then you're just as bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:49 PM
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That's what you don't understand, men don't have to have a lot of gold for a woman to suck him dry. I've heard countless stories from women themselves say they still expect men to pay for the vast majority of things even if he makes less money than her. It's not like a woman goes "oh he doesn't make much money, I won't exploit him." Women will still try this on broke dudes or constantly make it a point of argumentation that he just "doesn't make enough money."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:47 PM
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Sure, and if a woman expects a man to be her personal ATM, you're just using and taking advantage of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:34 PM
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If you want balanced well rounded women, what "left wing" or "liberal" values is she allowed to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:16 PM
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So...sex isn't a normal part of a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:41 PM
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Yes, and those who spend all day praising him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:23 PM
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So you're saying people should simultaneously not hate him, but also should not worship him, view him as the son of God, the savior, the best president of all time, buy all his useless merchandise, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:43 PM
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What spectrum are people on who spend their entire time wearing Trump clothing, wearing MAGA hats, flying FJB flags, constantly commenting "let's go Brandon?" Nah those people are completely normal right? They're not completely fucked in the head or in a cult or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:32 PM
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You've set up a scenario here where people who hate Trump can only be "wokies," "progressives," "liberals," "democrats," etc. There are plenty of reasons to hate Trump that are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:13 PM
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"Are they getting treated like 10s? Do they have the ability to sleep with 8-10 women without paying them?" No of course not. You're just proving my point that women don't have to do shit in the "market," women have it far easier in the "market" whereas men have to come to the table with zero flaws. Nope, not fat at all. I'm just proving a point. Because even a good looking man who is in shape will still struggle in the market whereas women can look like shit, be overweight and still have no pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:46 PM
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So if morbidly obese men think they're 10s does that mean they're 10s? This is the problem, the market is artificially inflated due to women like the ones you described. Women if they're fat, "hey you're a 10, you go girl." If you're a man who is overweight, you're just a far disgusting slob who deserves to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:01 PM
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Yeah because that's all men can get. Those "fat chicks" you're referring to think they're 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:48 PM
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As long as you don't complain because you know as a man you're not supposed to complain
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:55 AM
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The worst thing we can do as a man is complain, said by an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:36 AM
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Cool, you started it, I'm just replying. It's fun. Why do you live on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:22 AM
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You're not debating though, you responded after seven days with nothing but dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:06 AM
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Why did you respond seven days later like it mattered Chud?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:02 AM
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Wow you're a petty little snowflake. You waited seven days to respond with that drivel? Grow up and learn when someone doesn't give a shit what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:55 AM
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The 4b movement lasted for like 30 days until women realized it was dogshit and dropped it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:56 PM
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Or call you a perv, creep, weirdo, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:43 PM
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I can do both as well I just don't prefer being extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:35 PM
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Sure but your goal is social capital just like the obsessed football player's goal is to be the best player he can be. That's great and all if that's your goal. I'm not concerned with building social capital and most people either stress me out, annoy me, piss me off, are unintelligent, or have interests that are completely different than mine. I don't feel like I need to build social capital with people who quite frankly I don't give a shit about. What's the point? Sure I'll put in that extra e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:55 AM
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I agree with your second statement completely as I also don't believe in free will. Your first statement though implies that you're not complete on your own. It implies that in order to feel secure with yourself you need external validation. Sure external validation and attention can be nice but if you're living your life under the expectation that you will always receive it you're gonna be sadly disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:07 AM
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I understand what Romance novels are and what 50 shades of gray is about. How do you think a woman would respond if you told her you were gonna do the things to her that were done to the woman in 50 shades of gray? Be honest, what do you think she would say?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:11 AM
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Are you seriously trying to equate romance novels like the Notebook, Bridgerton, Where butterflies wander, etc. with 50 shades of gray? 50 shades of gray is a lot more dark and perverse than your typical romance novel, Einstein. 50 shades of gray is not something my mother or grandmother would have read.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:48 AM
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Of course I know what the book is about. You're the one who referenced romance novels as insight to what women want. I'm simply pointing out that 50 shades of grey is one of if the not biggest selling books amongst women and guess what? ITS NOT A ROMANCE NOVEL. You can't be this fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:34 AM
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See thats the problem. The first few waves of feminism were needed but the version we're at now is just about man hating. So when woman are asked if they're feminists they don't know what "wave" or "parts" you're referring too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:29 AM
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Cool, so you're paying for first dates then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:27 AM
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🤣🤣🤣 You realize one of the biggest selling books for women is 50 shades of gray. Do you really want to go down that path? Or are you just going to give me more blue pilled advice that doesn't reflect reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:20 AM
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Oh hell no. I'm not that stupid, I'm simply pointing out the contradiction between what you're saying and what women say. Have you not heard of the sprinkle sprinkle movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:00 AM
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Haha lol, have you not seen the countless women online saying they want a man to pay their bills, pay for their nails, make more money than them. What reality are you living in? You're taking the most charitable view on women possible rather than a realistic one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:24 AM
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I as a man don't need constant validation and attention from other people to feel secure with myself. So many extroverted people struggle with this and could not fathom sitting by themselves for hrs doing a hobby they like. My brother is a perfect example of this, he is way more extroverted and social than me but has next to no hobbies that he does on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:12 AM
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Even though we have heard women say countless times they want a man to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:00 AM
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Are you a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:58 AM
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So if I as a man don't pay for the date but rather talk about myself is that a green flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:37 AM
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😂 Of course she is speaking by using words how else could she speak? Have I ever been on a date? I'm married. Once again you still didn't answer my question. I'm done with you man, it's like talking to a brick wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:26 AM
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Which completely avoids answering my question. What is the woman doing to "signal" that she's interested in him if him paying is a signal to her that he's interested in her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:12 PM
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Of course men have agency over what content they consume. Do you not think these "influencers" are sending a bad message if they're just lying to men and women for clicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:09 PM
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Funny you say that because another woman on here just told me that women don't ask men out because that makes them butch and men are attracted to feminine women. Seems like a contradiction between what your claiming and what this other woman said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:30 PM
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Oh so you're admitting women are making all this shit up for clicks and views then? Just another reason why men shouldn't take you guys seriously anymore. Got that guys, all those women playing the victim in those videos are just lying and doing it for clicks, views, and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:27 PM
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A woman asking a man out makes her butch? I think you would have many women disagree with you on that one. So because you're a woman men are expected to treat you a specific way? What way are you expected to treat a man then if it's HIS job to be asking women out. This should be good....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:25 PM
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With online dating women aren't doing any initiating. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:03 PM
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That's womansplaining for ya. If the man likes the woman more than he's desparate right? Then he's a simp right? Then he has no other options right? Why can't you women just do the things you expect men to do? I thought we were equal right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:59 PM
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They expect men to be direct and assertive while they don't have too. That's crazy female nature for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:56 PM
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So if we go with 61% of women which is a majority, and your claim that at least half or more women do not want 50/50 you literally proved my point. You have a majority of women claiming to be feminist while still wanting a man to pay for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:20 PM
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Each recurring source you cited has the percentage of women identifying as feminist declining. Which is it 61% or 19% or 36%? That isn't giving us any sort of clear picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:00 PM
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So you have percentages that are all over the place in regards to women describing themselves as feminists almost as if that is something you can't get accurate data on. Women love to describe themselves as one thing and their behavior says something completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:55 PM
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Clearly you have not seen the thousands of videos of women balling their eyes out due to being single, men not asking them out, men not approach them, they're childless and don't want to be, no one will marry them, etc. Dudes don't make videos of themselves crying because they're single because no one gives a shit especially women. Women are the ones making Tiktok their personal diary for the whole world to see. I don't think passport bros is as prominent as you think but if dudes are moving to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:50 PM
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You gave me some 34%-61% stat you pulled straight out your *ss. Where's the proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:34 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 That tells me everything I need to know about you. Just admit you're a misandrist. If your claims are true why do women constantly complain about being single, childless, and no one wanting to marry them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:32 PM
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I literally gave you examples. You can dismiss them all you want but myself and many other men have experienced this countless times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:23 PM
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Do you ask men out on dates, do you pursue them, do you pay on first dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:08 PM
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Those aren't hypotheticals though. Those scenarios happen everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:50 PM
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I just gave you examples
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:41 PM
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You're hung up on the labels and self identifications. Forget about that for a moment. I'll give you some real world examples. Take for example a woman who believes in the tenets of feminism and equality, but expects men to approach her, ask her out, pay for dates, make more money than her, etc. That is a contradiction in ideology as far as I'm concerned. Or a woman who believes in traditional gender roles but has a high body count, very promiscuous, would never be a stay at home mom, etc. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:32 PM
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But none of those are signals towards him. Those are just traits she is describing about herself. A man paying for dates is signaling that he is doing something for HER. A woman being highly intelligent, confident, self aware, emotionally mature, optimistic, ambitious, curious, sex positive, self reflective, has nothing to do with signaling that she'll do anything for him. She could have all those traits and ghost him after the date is over. She could have all those traits and want nothing more …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:23 PM
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😂😂😂 Yeah they do. Oh stop with the domestic labor crap. Every married man I know tells me all the shit they do around the house and more. Stop acting like men are nothing more than lazy deadbeats. Women will use all sorts of excuses to justify getting divorced. With women initiating 80% of divorces you mean to tell me they ALL had valid reasons? I highly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:17 PM
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Well then you haven't looked at modern women. Modern women will pull the traditional gender roles card all the time when it benefits them and then pull the modern feminist and equality card when it benefits them. They do this shit all the time. To deny this is to deny reality. I don't think you're being honest in describing modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:14 PM
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Nah she sounds terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:11 PM
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Then you're putting too much value on the idea of marriage in the first place. I know plenty of men who are divorced and I wouldn't call them or their marriages failures. It just didn't work out anymore due to a whole plethora of different reasons. If someone stops running a business for personal, health, reasons it doesn't mean their business was a failure. They just may not be interested in running that kind of business anymore even if it was successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:30 AM
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I wouldn't agree with calling it a failure. When you and your first or second girlfriend broke up was that a failure? Or you two just weren't compatible with each other? Or one of you changed or grew apart, etc. That's not failure that's simply being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:24 AM
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How are these men time wasters if they tell the woman up front they don't want to get married and she chooses to stick around? She's free to leave whenever she wants, no one is forcing her to be with him. Women need to stop acting like the men are "dog walking" them when the women can leave whenever they want. Imagine if roles were reversed and men were constantly complaining about woman hoping that they would do something "magical" for them down the road? You women would have nothing to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:14 AM
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Exactly, especially when that sample size of behavior drastically changes after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:06 AM
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"Free samples?" Are you saying he can't be committed to you and not be married? If he's in a relationship with you he's committed. If he wasn't why would you be with him? Commitment should already be present before a marriage which demonstrates that marriage isn't necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:05 AM
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Oh my god 🤦 you don't think plenty of married dudes have done that for her to say "I'm bored" or "I'm just not happy anymore" or "you just don't excite me anymore." Not every divorce is the result of the man just not pulling his weight anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:59 AM
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I always find it ironic when women talk about men getting "wife privileges" without making her his wife. Like please, you're clearly getting "husband privileges" without being married otherwise you would have left his ass. If you're sticking around hoping he'll put a ring on your finger then he's already demonstrated he's "husband material" without being married. Women always act like this is so one sided when they are getting "husband privileges" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:25 AM
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"These other women" are the ones making pity party videos of themselves saying they are childless, unmarried, etc. I'm not talking about all women. I wasn't referring to the men in my example. I was referring to my sister and other women who had good men who met all the conditions only to be dumped and then wanted back after they were dumped. That's woman self sabotaging their relationships. If you're literally saying these were good guys, potential good fathers, providers, protectors, etc. and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:09 AM
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The difference between you and me is that you think my sister and all of these other women's "conditions" are reasonable. Sure some of them may be, but many of these conditions were met with men she dated and instead these women wanted to continue to "have fun," or maybe "there's an even better guy out there waiting for me" or maybe he just "doesn't make quite enough money for her." Women can have whatever conditions/expectations they want, it doesn't mean they are realistic or reasonable. Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:55 AM
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Why is it sad though? My sister is this exact type of woman who complains that she might never get to be married, start a family, etc. Meanwhile she treats guys like shit, many of whom were really great guys that I got along with really well and went on to get married and start families of their own. Only after dumping them did she want them back. I don't feel sorry for her, she is sabotaging her own relationships. Nor do I feel sorry for any of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:42 AM
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Let's just start over. Do you acknowledge there are women who act like feminists whether they say they are or not, while simultaneously still expect traditional gender roles from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:37 AM
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Really? That's all you got? So you acknowledge that a man paying for a date could signal green flags for you as a women long term but you can't even think of any examples of what you might signal to him that you're interested in him? Or is he just supposed to be a mind reader and pick up on your so called "subtle hints and clues?" Why can't you women ever just be direct like you expect men to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:34 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:29 AM
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I think you may be dishonest. They had a set of conditions to feel comfortable having the children they wanted, and THEY BLEW THEM. It was not the man's fault. See, what you won't hear from those types of women is all the good men they rejected, all the men they used as personal ATMs, all the men they ghosted, all the men they put in the friend zone who would have been good fathers, etc. Where are all the dudes making these types of videos despite being the gender who is severely disadvantaged i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:27 AM
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A woman will say she believes in equality, equal treatment, men and women are equal, etc. but not call herself a feminist. Meanwhile she still expects the man to pay/provide everything for her or expect him to make more money than her. This shouldn't matter if she believes in equality. She's literally demonstrating that she's hypergamous and wants traditional gender roles but also wants modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:11 AM
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Yeah modern women are takers not givers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:06 AM
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"It could signal some things - someone who is financially stable and can afford it, is generous and not resentful, and dates seriously enough to make a financial commitment, etc, it can be a solid indicator of whether they would look out for you long-term. But again, depends on circumstance, less important when you're young and things are even." If it can signal some things that you mentioned, what does a woman do then to signal green flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:03 AM
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"Which is of course correct, as the birth rate is absolutely plummeting, therefore women have in fact decided it's too great a risk without enough mediating factors, lol." Sure, but then why do we see all these videos online of women crying because they are childless in their 30s and can't find a man to marry them? Are you saying they're just lying and full of sh*t? If so, why should men take anything they have to say seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:59 AM
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Why do you like bears?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:55 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:54 AM
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No I'm saying women will not "identify" as feminist but still "act" like a feminist while simultaneously wanting access to traditional gender roles when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:54 AM
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But I'm not an incel though. You literally are a bear woman and a feminist based upon your own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:51 AM
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Women can not call themselves feminists while still practicing all the tenets of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:48 AM
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But women want men to pay for everything, that's what a father does. I know because I am a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:45 AM
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Bear woman: I believe in equality and equal treatment but the men must pay for everything when they date me. Enjoy being a walking contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:44 AM
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You mean you don't value the opinions of men who call out your hypocritical bullsh*t?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:38 AM
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"That's good. I'm not aware that I lied. I am aware that I mopped the floor with you. You may not care, but you called me a liar." This.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:37 AM
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Why so much snark? Oh and stop complaining. Yes you are a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:50 PM
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The coordinated fetus brain activity required for consciousness does not occur until 24-25 weeks of pregnancy. https://study.com/learn/lesson/prenatal-brain-development-timeline-stages-fetal.html#:~:text=At%20what%20point%20does%20a,24%2D25%20weeks%20of%20pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:44 PM
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I gotcha, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:41 PM
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"Women don’t need us the way we need them, so they set the terms, and we either play along or get left behind." So you're saying the woman should lead the relationship then and the man should be in her frame? If women are the only ones setting the terms, I would rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:08 PM
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You realize there isn't regular brain activity until week 25? At week 3 the brain is not developed. At weeks 6 there is also no heartbeat, that is just electrical cardiac activity. I think you're a little off with your information
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:53 PM
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The dude I was arguing with doesn't think there should be ANY abortions period. No exceptions, no limitations after a certain amount of weeks, etc. Just abolished entirely like a third world country. When an individual like the one I was arguing with starts throwing around the word MURDER incessantly, it's a sign of intellectual haziness so they don't have to consider all the nuanced positions/situations/circumstances. Just call it murder and therefore I don't have to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:36 PM
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Typical woman failing to take accountability for her dumb comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:51 PM
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Bullshit. More dishonesty from cave women. Women post thirst traps and pictures of themselves all the time in order to garner attention and validation from men. Nice try cave animal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:43 PM
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Keep on shattering those frail liberal men that you claim to date 🤣 Gbye
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:41 PM
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Oh I already did. Pregnancy is potentially a consequence of having sex, no shit. I literally told him becoming pregnant is not the same thing as remaining pregnant. He tried to equate a 5 year old child with a zygote, not the same thing. That's literally an equivocation fallacy and a violation of the law of non contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:09 PM
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So you're saying that it is "expected" for women then to sleep with the man after the first date? Quit playing dumb. No one is forcing you to do all that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:05 PM
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I agree, I'm just pointing out her hypocrisy that many women have no problem sleeping with the guy after the first date while she says most women have to "build a connection first."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:03 PM
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You need to put all that effort in just to "see" him? Would he not find you attractive without all the makeup, hair, waxing, expensive clothes, manicure, etc? If not, don't you think you're giving him a false impression of what you actually look like? Sounds like a self imposed problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:59 AM
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What is the point? You're putting all this effort into your personal appearance and are not going to have sex with him. Why are you wasting your time and energy doing all that stuff if it's just a free meal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:50 AM
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All the sexy pics on their Instagram profiles those are just for other women huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:15 AM
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Don't care anymore. You're not worth engaging with. I don't converse with dishonest interlocutors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:05 AM
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Ahh more Rich Cooper nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:55 AM
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"Education that you need" "Got your emotions up, did I?" But I am being snarky? Hey dipshit do you know what a hypocrite is? There is no educational content of anything you posted and you have made us all dumber as a result. And yes, you are a douchebag and a dipshit. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:53 AM
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"WTF—where did you learn to debate?" "So - since you are having difficulty with the basics, I will enlighten you with what you do not deserve:" "You just conflated a boundary with an ultimatum. Now, don't you feel silly, Mr. Strawman? It's OK. I didn't know either." "I understand being startled. Straw doesn't taste good" "Baby snark?" Puzzlehead isn't being snarky at all. He's always a hypocritical asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:38 AM
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You do realize you could literally do all of those things as a man and a woman would still think you're complaining right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:32 AM
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Aww you poor little baby because I called out your "holding a stick behind your back" line you respond with "that's just a strawman fallacy." Sounds like your umm... complaining. Quite frankly you didn't listen to a damn word I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:27 AM
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Oh, so stating boundaries is complaining but saying I'll abuse you if you don't get inline is good? WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:51 AM
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Ahh cool were dealing with reality now, yes! Ive been waiting for you to engage in reality with me. So in reality a zygote is not the same thing as a 5 year old child. That would violate the law of non contradiction, you know one of those pesky laws of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:03 AM
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Yeah you're completely refusing to answer the question but instead bragging about how much you "shatter" liberal men and how "frail" they are and how you make them "cry." I've yet to hear any actual agument or "shattering." 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:58 AM
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Who wrote your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:56 AM
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Why do we use the terms zygote, embroy, fetus, pre viable fetus, when to you everything is "baby" or "child?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:55 AM
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Let's look up the official definition of abortion shall we. Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy before the fetus can survive outside the uterus. It can occur spontaneously, known as a miscarriage, or be induced intentionally through medical or surgical procedures. Where is the murder part at? Am I just supposed to pretend it's in there because you say so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:53 AM
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Becoming pregnant is not the same thing as remaining pregnant. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:50 AM
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Cool so when can I start taking your organs, blood, tissue, DNA? After all your bodily autonomy doesn't matter now does it? Your organs belong to me. My survival is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:39 AM
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No the refugees and immigrants?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:32 AM
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How can a man who is Atheist, pro choice, pro lgbtq, feminist, pro education vote for Trump? That is literally the opposite of everything Trump stands for. I never understood people who vote for somebody who is the antithesis of all your core values/morals/beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:26 AM
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Ahh you're pro sending them to Quantanamo Bay?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:22 AM
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Can I use your body for my survival and sustenance?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:20 AM
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Murder? That's your definition of abortion. Abortion is a termination of a pregnancy. Why should anyone accept your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:15 AM
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Jesus Christ you conservatives are so tone deaf. Being liberal means "having no restrictions in life?" WTF. No wonder you're a conservative. Conservatives: open to having no restrictions in life and then praying to Jesus for forgiveness for your shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:10 AM
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Using your logic then the child shouldn't be allowed to use the mother’s body either. You're essentially advocating for special rights not equal rights. Oh and it's not a child. Glad I could clear that up for you Matt Gaetz.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:07 AM
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None of the ones governing this damn country or passing laws. They're all Bible thumping pro life Jesus f*ck tards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:04 AM
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Except women will view "expressing your preferences" and stating your boundaries as complaining. When we live in a world now where women believe they should be able to do whatever they want in a relationship regardless of what her boyfriend thinks, simply stating preferences or boundaries will seem like complaining to her. As a man you can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:48 AM
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Why would you do all that stuff to go out on a date with a man if he shouldn't expect sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:48 AM
2

Exactly. I bet women would be more likely to remarry after divorce if they were able too. Women when they get older have to struggle to find a man on top of their already ridiculous standards and high expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:56 AM
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Spot on. Women will never understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:51 AM
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If it is the other way around then why aren't women selecting broke, obese, unstable, unhealthy lovers? Oh that's right they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:27 AM
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So then all the women engaging in hookups are just full of shit then? They clearly would disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:05 AM
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Well that's complete bullshit when we see good looking dudes who do the bare minimum (if that) and have no problem attracting women. Meanwhile the nice guy who "makes her feel good" and does nice things for her gets nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:58 PM
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""Although, given the statistics on how good marriage is for men’s health, happiness, and net worth, I think that’s a foolish decision." That's another logical mistake you women make. Women purposely pick the men who are already healthy (not drug addicts, not obese, etc) happy on their own, and are already financially stable (not broke) and then mistakenly say it's because of "marriage.'' That's not how it works. Women are picking men who are already successful. Or as the red pillers like to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:13 PM
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Except if men were initiating 80% of divorces women probably wouldn't be interested in getting married. You'll never look at it from the perspective of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:53 PM
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So women only leave marriage because men are addicts, adulterers, abusers, abandoners, or deadbeats. But women never leave simply because they "aren't happy" or because he doesn't "excite me anymore" or because she found some other guy more interesting. Women initiate divorces all the time even when the man is doing everything right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:06 PM
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"All the women I know who have initiated divorces married men who were addicts, adulterers, abusers, abandoners, or deadbeats." Women initiate 80% of divorces so according to you the man was at fault 80% of the time then? Sorry not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:58 PM
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I was trying to explain this to a woman on here the other day and she just couldn't get it. She kept going on and on about women being used for sex. I was like, nobody forced you to have sex, you could leave anytime you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:02 PM
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You're the one who used the word "used" (not me) and now you don't want to own it. Enjoy having the last word, and painting yourself positively and stay away from those guys who are apparently "using" you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:59 PM
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You're the one who said women are being "used" sexually so the burden is on you to demonstrate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:38 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:52 PM
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You still don't get it? Why does he have to "officially" say they are in a relationship? She can literally ask him "where is this going" and if he isn't interested in a relationship she can leave. No one is forcing her to have sex with him or stick around. You're almost admitting that women in this instance are using sex transactionally to get the guy to commit to her. Sorry that's not how it works. She has every right to leave at any time. If she wants a relationship she can ask for one, why is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:30 PM
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"Do you think having sex with a guy automatically grants you a relationship?" What? You literally said in your comment above that women are convincing themselves that they are getting a relationship. So why the "what" response?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:31 AM
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"but these guys are also using them for sex," Once again how are these guys "using" them for sex? If the sex is consensual between both parties that's just called wait for it........sex. Women can convince themselves of whatever they want, doesn't mean they are getting "used.'" Just like you would say a man isn't getting used by paying for a meal for his date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:29 AM
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But other women on here will tell you that women get "used sexually." Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:01 AM
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"They have it easier getting used sexually, but unless they have the skills to meet a winning guy, that's as far as it goes. Forget about a quality relationshp" How do they get "used sexually?" Do they not have autonomy over their bodies and decide who they wish to have sex with? Do you think having sex with a guy automatically grants you a relationship? Stop complaining. If women aren't expected to have sex with a guy after he takes her out on a date and pays for everything, a man isn't expecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:55 AM
3

Jeffrey Epstein was Donald Trump's best friend. Don't forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:45 PM
2

Why don't you tell the same thing to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:37 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 So a man who has done the exact things you're prescribing with zero success has just "given up." It's almost like your dating advice is shit. "If my crummy ideas don't work, he's the problem and has already given up." So persuasive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:00 AM
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So if you said you'd feel sad for a woman who has had zero dates and doesn't ask men out you're proving the original poster's point: that women should take the initiative and ask men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:57 AM
1

You could have all the social proof in the world and if she isn't attracted to you it won't matter. You're just another weird dude with his weird friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:39 AM
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Neither have better results. Women don't give a shit about your "social proof."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:25 AM
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But these women say they don't believe in gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:24 AM
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"Show up at a concert with friends and vibe with a woman beside you in line? Easy." That's the exact moment the women beside you looks at you weird and thinks you're a creep, weirdo, or laughs at you. This only works for attractive men. This is a perfect example of why you don't taking dating advice from women. They are not operating on a deficit like men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:17 AM
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But men are still expected to approach strangers. We don't have the luxury of just "magically" joining your social group. It doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:19 AM
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True however women have never been so spoiled for options as they are now so the ball is in their court. When we know through data women are rejecting 80% of men it's up to them to make shit happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:16 AM
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This entails women can handle rejection and are secure with themselves when they get rejected but they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:13 AM
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Sure, but that doesn't mean men and women are the same and therefore will experience different repercussions for having hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 05:51 PM
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Jesus Christ what was that electronic dog 💩 music video
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:14 PM
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"Who's to say he's doing everything right? Well, his vow is." So to you words speak louder than actions? In my world actions speak louder than words. People can promise/vow whatever the hell they want to each other but if their actions don't match with their vow, their vow don't mean shit. At the end of the day regardless of what vows people say to each other, you can't force someone to stay with you, that's slavery. People are not property.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:20 PM
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No conditions? Except for all the reasons you already agreed with me are reasons for divorce/violating that contract. Should divorce exist according to you? Yes or no? If yes, everyone is going to have to different reasons as to why they wanted a divorce regardless of how arbitrary you may think it is. Here's why your reasoning doesn't work. Let's say the man is doing everything right in the marriage to make it work and the wife says "I'm unhappy I want a divorce." Now who's to say he's actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:05 AM
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It's always conditional. You literally agreed with me that there are all sorts of ways people can break that contract. That would imply that it is conditional by definition. Really you have to bring religion into this? Your god isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:08 AM
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Sure, but you're saying the other person in that scenario shouldn't be allowed a way out. You're implying they need to stay with the abuser because they would then be breaking the vow too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:59 AM
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Don't make promises and then become a completely different person during marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:43 AM
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I think the problem is that you're viewing "vows" as absolutes. They are not. Just like love, it's conditional not unconditional. People are only going to remain married if certain conditions are met regardless of whatever vows they took. This is why marriage is kind of bullshit, people rarely ever keep their vows as it's almost unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:50 AM
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Let me rephrase this a different way. Should people be allowed to get a divorce? I take it your religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:33 AM
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What are you saying? You're saying if someone becomes a complete piece of sh*t in the marriage the other person should be forced to stay with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:39 PM
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Exactly, which is why I'm not a proponent of marriage. There's no point to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:03 PM
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Forcing someone to stay with you is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:34 PM
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Yeah the dude above shouldn't have made it up either. You believe in toxic masculinity right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:32 PM
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Is hyperfeminine a term like toxic masculinity? Something you made up?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:14 PM
0

Please explain how a woman paying for a date makes her more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:00 PM
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That has nothing to do with femininity. That has has to do with equality which you feminists claim you believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:57 PM
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Thanks 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:27 AM
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Also the time, money, energy, investment of kids is not the problem. Those things are all taken care of in spades. I never regretted once having a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:27 AM
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Ahh so "you should of known what you were getting into" doesn't apply to you? My partner has never threatened to kill me. Maybe you should've done a better job of vetting instead of getting into a relationship with a violent deadbeat dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:25 AM
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You're not giving parenting advice, you're just letting me know you had a free pass to cut your stepkids out of your life. Not my situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:54 AM
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Hmm so getting married to a woman who has a high libido when you first met and early on in the relationship and marriage equates to "if you didn't know what you were getting into then whose fault is that?" You realize people can change over time right? The person you marry may not be the same person years down the road. Your step kids situation doesn't apply because those weren't your kids. If they were your kids abandoning them wouldn't be an option. Once again you don't understand what the hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:46 AM
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I never said it was a universal thing. Breaking up a family so you can go get your sexual needs met elsewhere doesn't appeal to me. You not having kids will never understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:23 AM
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Ahh so then you don't know what it's like to put your kids happiness before your own needs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:17 AM
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You didn't answer my question about kids
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:16 AM
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Well she hasn't used that line directly. It's more implied
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:16 AM
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But I don't need to hear your stock responses about communication and whatnot. Do you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:14 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:13 AM
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I'm tired, not in the mood, has a headache, maybe later, I don't feel good, we've been together for 20 years we don't need to have sex anymore. If a man says any of these things to his partner/wife who is in the mood, he usually met with repulsion. He is met with, "did I do something wrong?" "Man up" "stop complaining" etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:04 AM
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The difference is society views women's reasons for not wanting sex as justified but if a man wants sex and is constantly told no he is viewed as a sex pest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:58 AM
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Have you had hormonal replacement therapy? If not, then you can't say it magically fixes a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:56 AM
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You should read some of the posts on r/deadbedrooms where husband's wives clearly need hormonal replacement therapy and they utterly refuse to get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:55 AM
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Nope don't need to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:53 AM
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There's blue pills for that. What's her solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:17 AM
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If a woman does everything right in a relationship and the man withholds sex from her who is to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:12 AM
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I love how you think communication magically solves all problems. I never advocated for cheating btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:44 AM
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You've set up a scenario where you can't be wrong. A man and woman could be in a healthy relationship where every other aspect of the relationship is perfectly fine and she just decides she doesn't want to have sex anymore. Now that could be because of a multitude of different things but not necessarily because the relationship "isn't healthy." What if perhaps she goes through menopause and no longer has a sex drive, he's just supposed to accept that? Just stay married?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:42 AM
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Yes marriage does imply monogamy. It also implies that you're only going to be having sex with one person for the rest of your life, and if that person doesn't uphold their end of the deal, how are they not to blame? Monogamy doesn't mean anything if both partners are not enthusiastic about having sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:13 PM
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Sure, so withholding sex from your partner isn't a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:09 PM
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Yep that's totally it, women are just not having children because they saw their dad be stingy, yep totally it. Even though if looked up the top reasons why women are not having children you will nothing about observing their father. Good grief
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:56 AM
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No no no now you're lying. You literally said women are picking higher paying jobs and careers to to accommodate for men's children. Now you're saying they pick lower paying careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:54 AM
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Yeah that's why their picking jobs and career paths and deciding on not having children. You missed that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:42 AM
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Not really. Here's an interesting video for you to watch. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BCVzuvOBim0&pp=ygUaUHN5Y2ggaGFja3MgZ2VuZGVyIHBheSBnYXA%3D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:41 AM
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So wage gap (which doesn't exist) vs a man not getting 50/50 custody of his kids simply because he is a man. Seems pretty sexist to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:21 AM
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Can't answer the legal questions so you resort to whining about reimbursing her for simply being a mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:19 AM
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That literally has nothing do with my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:18 AM
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I would whine about alimony and child support too when the state literally grants the mother automatic default custody regardless of whether she's a good mother or not. The state I live in the father has to "prove" he is a good parent even if he already is one. The mother is granted automatic default custody simply because she has a vagina. Totally equitable and fair there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:10 AM
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So you think there is a pay gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:45 PM
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You said $100k is easily achievable. Great good for you. It's not easily achievable in the Midwest. You're the one who brought up $100k being easily achievable not me. It's almost like there's no gender pay gap if it's easy for you to make $100k a year. The vast majority of men in this country don't make that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:18 PM
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Where's the snark? I'm just quoting you. Unless you think your own comments are "snark?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:59 PM
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Which shouldn't be a problem for you because hey "$100k a year is easily achievable."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:28 PM
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You don't live in the Midwest like I do so no it is not easily achievable. Second off, yes women do have those standards. You never responded to my science article that proves this. There are actually many science articles showing women value men for their money. If they didn't feel entitled to it they would have no problem dating men who are in a lower socioeconomic income bracket. But women don't typically date men who make less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:42 PM
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Correct very few men meet those criteria and guess what? Those are the men that most women feel entitled too. Yes women do have those standards and no 6 figures is not easily achievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:29 PM
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Yeah you didn't answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:41 PM
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So men wanting to date women that are younger than them equates to the top 3% of women? Younger = top 3%? 🤦 Let me ask you this: is a younger attractive woman more rare (which is what many men want, NOT ALL) or a man who is 6ft + tall, makes 6 figures, has a six pack, is handsome, athletic, charismatic, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:17 AM
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Entitled too? 🤣🤣🤣 Nah you women get all your value up front hence why most men are attracted to younger women. You didn't have to do anything to accomplish that. Men have to build their value as they are essentially the lowest on the totem pole at 18,19,21,23 years of age. You're just unhappy that life isn't fair. It's not fair that many women are looked over as they get older just like it's not fair that many men get looked over when they're younger. What's your point? Do you not appreciate the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:13 AM
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If a man who is 35 - 45 and still wants kids what does a 38,39,40 year old women have to offer him where her fertility window is essentially closed or very close too? How are men hypergamous? You're also assuming men and women are exactly the same and look for the same qualities in each other. Sure men might swipe right on everyone to see who they match with, you know why? Because women rarely swipe right on most men unless you're 6ft tall, handsome, make lots of money, have social status, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:03 AM
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So when men will swipe right on almost every woman on dating apps and get no responses in return vs a woman who rarely swipes right on a man you deduce that men are pickier? 🤔 Also your little graph clearly demonstrates that women will date a man from almost any age if he has money and social opportunities. Versus men who don't really care about that and prefer beauty, youth and fertility. I will literally post a scientific link proving this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:00 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:41 PM
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Literally all the data gleamed from dating apps says otherwise. Women are far more selective than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:40 PM
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You seriously telling me that men are more pickier than women when it comes to dating? 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:26 PM
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Who came up with those criteria on the male delusion calculator? None of those are criteria that I look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:25 PM
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Men don't have a delusional calculator because men have much lower standards, are not as picky, are willing to date down, etc. Women on the other hand, it's the complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:00 PM
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So you haven't heard of the female delusion calculator then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:59 PM
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What's this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:17 PM
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Do you know what the female delusion calculator is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:49 PM
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It isn't hard to reconcile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:23 PM
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I know. It's like a gay man being attracted to man boobs on an obese male just not when they're attached to a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:05 PM
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So you like the feel of a penis just not attached to a man. Umm okay
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:23 PM
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You still didn't negate my point. You require more from a man than a man requires from you. But hey let's just call that "compatibility."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:45 PM
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Why use strap ons, you're lesbians? Lesbians don't like dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:59 PM
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Wow, where do I find women who: 1) don't wear "war paint" 2) are not on social media 3) don't post bikini pics 4) don't expect men to buy them things 5) seem to understand the ridiculousness/exploitation of OF and social media The type of women you've described yourself as is almost nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:46 PM
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Got it. Equality does not refer to equal treatment then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:38 PM
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Men aren't pursuing those types of women for relationships. And yes I agree men need to stop enabling that kind of behavior. Women only do it because they know men will simp for them and can extract money, resources, attention, validation from those type of men. Let me ask you this, if you enjoy posting bikini pics of yourself on social media, would you date/be in a relationship with the type of guy that is complimenting/validating your body on there?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:34 PM
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"Don’t care. Misrepresentation of who you are is fraud." Cool, so when women act like sex kittens when you first start dating and then completely turn it off after they get engaged/married that is fraud as well, correct? When a woman says she believes in equality but still expects a man to pay for everything, she is a fraud as well, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:29 PM
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Yep. If it was truly for "themselves" they would just keep it on their phone and off social media. They do it specifically because of the validation and attention they get from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:20 PM
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In that scenario he wouldn't really have much room to bitch as he was "liking/complimenting" your bikini photos in the first place which would then make him a hypocrite. I'm talking about a scenario where that wasn't something you were advertising online and then started doing it when you got into a relationship with him. "Men cannot be trusted, there are never the person they present in the beginning." Do men have a high burden of performance when it comes to dating women? If you agree with thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:18 PM
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Why would any self respecting man want to be in a relationship with a woman who is constantly advertising her sexuality to other men? Why would any man want his partner to constantly seek attention/validation from other men? It's like you're proudly waving your red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:11 PM
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But if you're expecting a ring from him that means he's already demonstrated "husband qualities/traits" otherwise you wouldn't be with him. If you're already getting "husband privileges" why do you need to get married? You're basically admitting that you expect him to pay for more than 50/50 in order to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:50 PM
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Got it. She's cool with the arrangement. Man that was so hard to say that 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:46 PM
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And those women who can have kids "with or without romantic partners" are setting those kids up for failure. Statistics show that kids are worse off being raised by single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:36 PM
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The only problem with your argument is men have no problem dating a woman who is not a professional and doesn't make a lot of money. You however require it. You're just confirming redpill at this point in that women date up not down. Congrats 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:31 PM
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So you agree with red pillers that women are hypergamous then? You literally laid out what Redpill men say women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:16 PM
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Regular therapy? Why does one need regular therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:06 PM
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That's not what data says.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:23 AM
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So does "controlling" constitute as you doing whatever you like regardless of how he feels about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:21 AM
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I wouldn't be with a woman who wants the perks of being in a relationship with a man while simultaneously seeking the external validation and attention of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:13 AM
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I agree, but in every relationship I have ever been in it has always been the woman who has tried to pressure me into marriage not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:00 AM
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So you're saying in a relationship a man is more likely to upend a woman's peace moreso than a woman upending a man's peace? I don't know about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:56 AM
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Sorry, there's not some huge increase from 2018 to 2022 where men are just magically having more sex. 4 years time is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:30 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-state-of-our-unions/202302/why-are-so-many-young-men-single-and-sexless https://news.iu.edu/live/news/26924-nearly-1-in-3-young-men-in-the-us-report-having-no https://www.knowledgeformen.com/sexless-and-single-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:17 AM
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The statistics (which are easy to look up) show you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:48 AM
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Because we rarely see women asking men out. I wouldn't consider myself an unattractive guy and have never been asked out by a woman. Every woman I have been in a relationship with I have asked them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:12 PM
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I would say this statement is true because men are more disagreeable than women are and hence more different from each other. Women are far more agreeable which makes them seem all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:44 AM
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Yep, they'll always say they have their own money but still want you to pay for the first few dates. Like why tell men you have your own money if you're not gonna spend it on us anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:44 PM
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I'm glad men don't consider women losers for making significantly less money than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:04 PM
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Partner = making the same amount of money as you Loser = not making as much money as you Great logic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:43 PM
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Which is it? Men should enforce their boundaries? Or not pay for things for women which you said is dumb. You're not making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:34 PM
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Nothing she was saying made any damn sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:18 AM
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But I'm already married. Who said women are obligated to date you? Not me. I'm simply telling men to not take bad advice from women. I know you think it's good advice, but you're also a woman who is lazy when it comes to dating. You're not asking men out, setting up dates, paying for dates, being expected to make the first move, etc. I know I know you're gonna tell me you do all those things as well, right? You're just one of those exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:12 AM
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Cool so then he can enjoy singledom. Good luck finding a women that doesn't expect you to pay for everything. We all know telling a woman you want to go Dutch on a meal is gonna go over real well. "You know women aren't a hivemind, right?" Glad we found the exception to the rule (totally believe you.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:58 AM
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You think men are dumb for doing it? So when literally everyone woman expects a man to pay for things especially early on in the relationship, you're saying men shouldn't do this which wouldn't essentially lead to being perpetually single. 👋 "Hey guys don't spend any money on women when you're dating them, women think that's dumb." 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:42 AM
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There it is. As long as it benefits you and not him. If roles were reversed you would have a problem with spending money on him, keep in mind you want your socioeconomic equal not someone below you. You're literally confirming red pill ideas about women right now. You do realize that right? Have you not heard of hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:34 AM
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But you also said you're okay with a man making more than you. Why do you care about this if no one should be the primary provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:21 AM
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Oh yes because feminism leads to being genuinely wanted and loved. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:18 AM
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Exactly. They want to be a leader without any of the responsibility, accountability or provisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:16 AM
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This is ridiculous. You're basically saying people should only date with their socioeconomic "equal." If a woman makes more than a man, that's a problem for you. If a man makes more than a woman that's a problem for you. You literally said you don't think anyone should be the primary provider. Good luck finding your socioeconomic unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:13 AM
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If men are making more money than women in the same industry? Great job 👏 not pointing out the fact that men work more hrs, do more terrible physically laborous jobs, and are less agreeable than women. If companies could legally get away with paying women less then why wouldn't they just hire all women. You're full of shit. Domestic violence against men is often underreported, with some estimates suggesting that 21% of male victims do not tell anyone they are a victim. A CDC phone survey found t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:57 PM
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There it is I knew you had it in ya. "Local deadbeat giving up his meal ticket?" I thought feminists believe men are making more money than women so wouldn't it be the other way around? Domestic abuse? You should look up the statistics on how much abuse men get from women that goes unreported. You should look up the statistics of false DV charges against men. But I know, I know 80% of divorces initiated by women are totally justified. The woman could never be at fault. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:12 PM
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Men abandon? Women initiate 80% of divorces. Women abandon. But let's hear ridiculous excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:03 PM
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The point I'm trying to make is: it wasn't men who decided women should get default custody, it was women who fought for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:51 PM
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Ahh so you recognize that men and women have to face different struggles, challenges, issues, etc. in life yet you are advocating for things to be exactly the same under feminism. You claim "we shouldn't leave it all up to the moms" yet that is exactly what women have fought for to have default custody under family law. You can't complain about something that women have fought for to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:35 PM
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Where are you pulling this data point of "90% of men who petition for 50/50 or more, will get it from?" That sounds like an arbitrary number you plucked out of thin air. You're also missing the larger point, why do we have states that give women custody by default to begin with? That's sexist as f**k.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:11 PM
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Oh the degenerates
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:08 PM
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What are "those types?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:53 PM
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Of course not (wtf?) It's not just one state that's like this, it's multiple states.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:52 PM
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Literally look up the state of South Dakota (the state I live in) and tell me who gets default custody in the case of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:47 PM
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We don't want women like this. This women is influencing other women to be like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:45 PM
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You clearly don't understand how family law works in North America.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:40 PM
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95% of dads who request 50% or greater custody are granted it? 😂😂😂 What reality are you living in lady? That's not how it works. I know multiple men who are great fathers, pay their fair share in child support, their kids love them and they don't just "magically" get more custody if they request it 🤦‍♂️ If that was the case there would be no need to have a law that grants default custody to the mother. I don't think you realize how many men are literally shut out of their kids live's by toxic wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:04 AM
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Are you factoring in the fact that many states in the US women get default custody? The man has PROVE he is a good father through litigation, lawyer, etc. even if he is already a good father. The mother gets default custody simply by virtue of having a vagina. Then the mother goes on to alienate the child from their father which he is not allowed to see because remember she gets default custody. Nor is she incentivised to let her child see their father because the more time the child spends with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:54 AM
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"The number of children with deadbeat dads is 33%?" I like how you can just pull statistics right out of thin air. Maybe read something that isn't trying to make you angry...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:34 AM
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I don't know what statistics you're looking at but some statistics have paternity fraud at all the way up to 32%. That's a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:25 AM
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Actually not incredibly rare. From what we know from paternity tests, family ancestry tests, DNA tests done on parents to see if they have any genetic illnesses that could be passed onto their kids, all have produced a lot of paternity fraud. And doesn't anyone ever feel sorry for the man? Nope. The woman gets all the sympathy for being a garden tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:17 AM
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It's pretty fucked up how much women commit paternity fraud. Expecting a man to raise a kid that isn't even biologically his.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:12 PM
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Also please explain what a red pilled female is?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:05 PM
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So then all these countless videos on the internet of women expecting men to pay for dates are just bullshit? I'm not buying it. I've never had a woman voluntarily offer to pay for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:04 PM
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So then all these countless videos on the internet of women expecting men to pay for dates are just bullshit? I'm not buying it. I've never had a woman voluntarily offer to pay for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:04 PM
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Hmm...that's why women give a good PR stunt for that first year and then change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:02 PM
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Hmm...that's why women give a good PR stunt for that first year and then change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:02 PM
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😂😂😂 I'm literally married and yes I had to pay for most things. But hey nice try. It's easy when you don't have to actually engage with the reality of the current dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:46 PM
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They do? Where? In the land of make believe? Show me where women are paying for dates, I'll wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:42 PM
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That's why women never pay for dates, drinks, entertainment because.......?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:39 PM
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Good question. That's most women. Her money is her money and his money is their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:50 PM
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No. Most men do not want a high earning women because: 1: We don't have access to your money. 2: You're not gonna spend it on us anyways. Where on the flipside women will tell men they need to make at least as much money as her or more. You being a high earner doesn't benefit us in anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:42 PM
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Ahh yes women fluidly going from guy to guy are totally interested in romantic relationships. Good grief
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:49 PM
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"Men want women to pick them?" Isn't that what should be entailed if women nowadays say they believe in equality? Or do you just pick and choose what you want to be equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:45 PM
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That wasn't "atheism" though. That's communism. Show me where the official religion of Atheism is, and what it's tenets, principles, rules, rituals, etc. are?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:06 PM
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I'm not trying hard to have a negative interaction. I just don't think you're being honest. You claim you care about men's mental health, my best friend killed himself after he found his wife cheating on him and then she wanted a divorce. Did she or any other woman care about his mental health? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:37 PM
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Oh that's right, you care about men's mental health 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:13 PM
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So it's okay to make generalizations about the "people in our live's" just not generalizations of patterns of behavior we see in other people who are not in our live's?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:03 PM
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If men never had the monopoly on physical force, why would you need a Colt 45? You should have no problem defending yourself without a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:47 PM
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😂😂😂 Wow you are delusional. I didn't know women were physically stronger between the two sexes. I guess after thousands of years we had it all wrong, women should have been fighting the wars and not men. Nice try topentertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:46 PM
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You think most women are like this? 😂😂😂 Oh so it's okay for you to make generalizations about "most women" but when men do it we're completely out of line?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:17 PM
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😂😂😂 Keep telling yourself that. I'm gonna keep going with what has been clearly demonstrated and observed in reality. I literally work in a warehouse where there is a lot of physical labor and in the 12 years I've worked there, there hasn't been one woman able to do the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:59 AM
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😂😂😂 Ahh that's right, when men were sent off to die in wars, so companies asked women if they wanted to do the work. Doesn't change any of the statistics on men dominating the jobs I listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:53 AM
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That still doesn't refute anything I said 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:51 AM
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Umm no. As it stands men still overwhelming do all the hard physical labor jobs. Men overwhelming maintain the infrastructure of society (roads, electricity, farming, construction, plumbing, hvac, water treatment/sewage, garbage, communications, oil refineries, the list goes on and on.) But hey keep fantasizing about your feminist utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:31 AM
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Women only become truly as empowered as men with the help of the state. Men will always have the monopoly on force.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:18 AM
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Because women have been so supportive and forthcoming with their support of men's emotions and mental health. Women don't give a shit. The minute a woman says she wants a man who is "emotionally vulnerable" he immediately gets chastised for being "whiny" or "complaining too much." Women don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:07 AM
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According to you women are "actually saying" patriarchy is the transference of property and rights from father to son for generations. I know very few men who have had "property" transferred to them from their father and how do you transfer "rights" from father to son? Most of the men I know are just working their asses off struggling to survive, they aren't getting property and rights transferred to them by their father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:12 AM
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"I can't answer on behalf of all women but I believe it's because it shows whether or not the guy is generous, invested, traditional, and has discretionary income that he believes is worth spending on my behalf" So then you don't believe in equality. Those are traditional gender roles. You are a modern feminist blue pilled woman who has discarded traditional gender roles. YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. Either both parties are expected to do that shit or neither. "Not everything is equal. For exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:56 AM
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Huh? Correct, men aren't the ones who have changed, women have. Financial liberation, Sexual liberation, reproductive liberation, workforce liberation, etc. Despite women having equality and these varied forms of liberation they still expect a man to adhere to traditional gender roles. Despite now believing in equality. If we're equal women should be doing all the exact things men are expected to do in your original post. Except women won't because they don't truly believe in equality. They only…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:44 AM
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Then why are you expecting men to adhere to traditional gender roles? You're a walking contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:24 AM
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"It's like applying for a job and before the interview asking for a raise. No, first you PROVE you can do the job, THEN we'll discuss compensation." No. Your analogy fails. No one is going into an interview expecting a raise before the interview. The interview entails discussing what the pay rate will be for the job being done. The person being interviewed can then decide whether the financial compensation is fair in relation to the job he is expected to do. In other words, there is a mutual con…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:47 PM
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The problem is, every one of your points is referring to traditional male behavior, traditional gender roles men have adhered too. Women nowadays have in large part discarded traditional gender roles under feminism. This does not work. You can't have a man be expected to adhere to traditional gender roles while women don't have too. I know you will fail to understand this because you think you are a "traditional woman" but I can almost certainly bet you are not considering you are blue pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:36 PM
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So why shouldn't women have to prove themselves then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:24 PM
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Ahh so you don't believe in equality then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:54 PM
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No, men would still be going after loser women due to the differences in libidos. Hence why you stated men are "spamming" all these women and whining for sex. At the end of the day woman's standards/requirements/expectations are higher than men's and as such are seeking higher value men (20%.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:52 PM
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I'm not saying every woman is going after 5 men, what I'm saying is women are going after what they perceive as a man in that top 20%. That doesn't mean she'll get that guy and may have to remain single for a while. However they are not looking at dudes in the lower echelons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:40 PM
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Congrats! You acknowledge the 80/20 rule. 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:26 PM
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Exactly because those 70% of men are not being approached or having success in real life. The 20% don't need dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:59 PM
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Paternity fraud is not incredibly rare. Depending at what statistics you look at it can be anywhere from 0.8% al the way up to 30%. That's a lot of damn fraud. So you're okay with women feeling justified in their "oppression" but when it happens to a man you're just like "oh well." I think you're a dishonest interlocutor, as anything that doesn't fit your victim narrative is dismissed, ridiculed, labeled as misogyny, controlling, oppressive, revenge porn, "that's just a TV show," etc. You love f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:58 AM
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Hey it's almost like you understand why a man might feel insecure reproductively because he can't know the paternity with certainty, but hey let's frame it as "men have a controlling attitude." Maybe if we didn't have so much evidence nowadays of paternity fraud men wouldn't feel that way. Nope. Women are only happier single ages 18-30. After that they are not happier single. The point about the childless mothers being revenge porn, 🤦‍♂️ the women are totally to blame for that. Imagine having al…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:41 AM
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Reproductive insecurity? Wow, the misandry is seeping out of every word. I wouldn't exactly call the fact that most men throughout history not reproducing as an "insecurity" but rather as a disposability. We don't see men making videos crying their eyes out at being 40 and childless because feminism lied to them. Seems like more insecurity on the women's part because she couldn't get one of those "powerful men." Seriously are you okay? Do you need a bear hug?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:24 AM
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Sure and most men were not "in power." It was also none of the men's choice in raising children that were not biologically his own for thousands of years (even though they were told they were his) by women who were unfaithful and cuckholded men. Long before paternity tests, family ancestry tests, DNA tests which have shown just how much women sleep around and lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:13 AM
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Ahh yes you're referring to a small select group of men, Vlad the Impaler, Ghengis Khan, etc. The vast majority of men did not reproduce, did not have mistresses, did not have harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:07 AM
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Hey it's almost like you understand evolutionary psychology and realize that most men don't reproduce. Most men don't have access to a lot of partners unlike women. Most men historically been disposable and used for war.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:50 AM
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I'm taking it personally? You're the one who said earlier your feelings are reality. Sounds like you're taking it personally. I know I know all those lonely desperate incel men out there who are having far less sex than women are just oppressing and controlling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:44 AM
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Bias? 😂😂 You're entire comment section has been biased towards how terrible you think men are. But I'm biased? There's plenty of bears in the woods for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:38 AM
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Wow, you clearly are dumb. Both women are still alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:33 AM
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I don't care. It's not relevant to the topic at hand. Oh wait I'm not allowed to say "it's not relevant to the topic at hand." 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:27 AM
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Both doctors
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:25 AM
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You should read some Esther Villar or Esther Perel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:23 AM
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Yes I know it doesn't fit your narrative so you have to go off on a long winded tangent about how horrible men are. It's okay men will continue to be the backbone of the infrastructure of society without ever being told thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:19 AM
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Really? So what does the "TV show" demonstrate then? Because it doesn't fit your narrative you automatically discount it? I guess any shows dealing with male sexual harassment or "imprisoning women" are also fake then as well? Am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:13 AM
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"What has this got to do with anything? Like WTF dude." It has to do with the fact that you are cherry picking history to suit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:05 AM
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Ahh so you have seen the Survivor episode. You love to shit on men for how controlling, imprisoning, misogynistic they are why failing to realize that men have been providers, protectors, hunters, etc. The women in that episode clearly demonstrated they are clearly incapable of surviving on their own without the help of men. But keep ranting about hijabs, Christianity, misogyny and other feminist nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:03 AM
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So the world becomes a better place when men become inferior to women? Have you not seen the Survivor episode where men were placed on one island and women were placed on another?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:55 AM
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How am I supposed to when your constantly on a victim train as to how you are so imprisoned, oppressed, men are misogynists, men are sexually insecure, men just want to control women, etc. How can I have a good faith conversation with such a bad faith actor? I mean listen to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:50 AM
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There's the misogyny card I have been waiting for. Please explain how women are misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:44 AM
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Humans have been around for 300,000 years and our predecessors much longer than that. Christianity has only been around for 2,000 years. Hardly anything in evolutionary terms. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:38 AM
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What the hell does that have to do with "feelings being reality?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:34 AM
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Not a Christian
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:33 AM
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Ahh so you live in the Middle East?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:31 AM
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Kind of hard to imprison/objectify women when you do it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:20 AM
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Feelings are emotions. Emotions are electro-chemical brain states and subjective. That is why there is literally a distinction between the terms subjective (dependent upon one mind/consciousness) and objective (independent of consciousness.) You're confusing the map for the territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:17 AM
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Really, why are my comments down voted all the time then if it's "against the rules?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:11 AM
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Ahh yes women constantly seeking external validation and attention from men through Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Onlyfans, dating apps is very much imprisonment. WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:09 AM
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Your feelings are yours and yours alone. Your feelings don't dictate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:05 AM
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Down voting is not against the rules nor are emojis. My comments get down voted all the time by women on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:03 AM
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Oh so I'm supposed to give a bunch of examples of how terrible women treat men and then you say, "it's not the same?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:01 AM
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Spoken like a good feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:57 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:56 AM
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It's so terrible having people be attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:38 AM
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Oh so all those women wanting a man that makes 6,7 figures a year are just lying? Get out of here. Women want them brokies? 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:32 PM
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This is a lose lose situation for you. If you're attractive, men have asked you out at some point and paid your way. If you're unattractive and get no attention from men, welcome to what it's like for every man, attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:32 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BCVzuvOBim0
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:29 PM
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Ahh the gender pay gap myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:58 PM
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Really? Where are all these single women at pursuing me, asking me out on dates, paying for dates, gifts, entertainment, etc. Oh that's right, that's female privilege, men don't have those luxuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:48 PM
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I don't believe you. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:34 PM
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Except you're a woman who literally relies on external validation and attention from Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, etc. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:49 AM
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Yep the admins here hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:36 AM
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The past is the past? 😂😂😂😂 Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:43 PM
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I agree with everything you wrote, but still find your views very redpill. Guys like Rich Cooper and Orion Teraban have both talked at length about competing sexual strategies between the genders and both are redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:52 PM
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Most definitely. They are purposely being dishonest so they don't have to admit they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:46 PM
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"My views skew towards women should live their lives and choose their mates in a way that maximizes benefits for themselves, their family unit as a whole and their individual children." So are you in favor of men choosing their mates/partners in a way that maximizes benefits for themselves? This could include being promiscuous, or non committal, or not being willing to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:13 PM
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"Promiscuity only benefits males and women should be way more discerning." But women say body count doesn't matter. Therefore female promiscuity shouldn't matter. Why do you consider yourself an "egalitarian women" when your views tend to skew more towards traditional femininity and traditional gender roles? Which I wouldn't exactly associate with egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:42 PM
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So this pretty much directly undermines feminism then. Feminists will tell you that men and women are the same. Women can do everything a man can do. Women have the same sexual strategies as men, yadda yadda. Clearly this is not the case as you've pointed out that men "should" be doing certain things that women don't have too. This further seems to confirm redpill and show how feminism is a farce as you're clearly making a case for evolutionary psychology and evolutionary biology something redpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:46 AM
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Except women will say they want a nice guy. They never say I don't want a pushover. Saying you want a nice guy is meaningless when it's devoid of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:27 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 Your little example there could literally be applied to the pushover "nice guy" as well. You don't think a guy bending over backwards for a woman was ever called a nice guy? See? Your context is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:22 PM
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I've used analogies like this before and women don't get it. They'll say "women are not cars" or "women are not fish" completely missing the point of the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:02 PM
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Would you want to be with a man if you knew he cheated on all of his partners in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:48 PM
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😂😂 Okay, keep telling yourself that with your "nice guys" meaning multiple things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:26 PM
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"Nice guy" has 2 meanings. One is actually being nice and the other is being a pushover." So when a man is not a pushover, but rather a "nice guy" and actually enforces his boundaries/rules guess what he gets called? Controlling, insecure, asshole, etc. There's a fine line a guy has to walk where he isn't a pushover but if he enforces any of his rules or pushes back against any of your feminist nonsense he is no longer a "nice guy." I don't think you could actually define what a nice guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:23 PM
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But I thought women were the ones better at communication? lol If you women were the ones actually better at communication you wouldn't have to use the term "nice guys" to mean multiple things. You would just say what you mean. Plus, if men are the ones expected to pick up on subtle clues and body language (according to women) that would make men the better communicators.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:16 PM
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Nope. Your analogy will continue to fail and mine will continue to be correct as long as men are the ones primarily pursuing women and women are not. Simple as that. You just don't like the analogy because you know it's true. Especially when women are asked for dating advice and it never works. For example, women will tell you they want a "nice guy" meanwhile hundreds of videos of them are saying how nice guys give them the "ick." Women don't even know what they want, why would a man ever take d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:52 PM
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Ahh the ole misogyny label for everything you disagree with. No, the analogy still stands because women don't pursue men and therefore have no experience in the matter. It's like saying, you might be able to decorate the house and put up curtains, but you have no knowledge/experience when it comes to hiring a contractor or building a house yourself. Don't get mad at me because women in large part don't pursue men. The Bumble dating app already proved this clearly, you women can't even be bothere…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:52 PM
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Why does being selective entail men having to pursue and ask women out? You mean to tell me you can't be choosy by just going up to the guy you want in the first place? You want to have it both ways. You want to be selective by rejecting this guy and that guy and not having to pursue. Please explain why you could not be selective by pursuing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:40 PM
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Only thing you're pulling is my chain
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:33 AM
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No wonder men can't have a conversation with you, you can't even acknowledge basic observations when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:31 AM
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Ahh completely miss the point because you don't understand analogies. Where are all these women at pursuing men? Oh you live in the land of make believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:15 AM
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Women are the fish men are the fisherman. Why would I ask a fish how to be caught when they have no experience doing so? You are the ones who literally call yourself "the prize."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:10 AM
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Except fish don't talk just like women don't approach. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:05 AM
1

Ahh let's ignore statistics, but pop off lg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:58 AM
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Woman dating another woman. Ahh the category that tends to have the most failed relationships. That's not an opinion either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:52 AM
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What was the original topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:00 PM
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Then you shouldn't go to the "no go" zones in Dearborn, Michigan and others run by Muslim men. There is a lot of "forcing" going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:18 PM
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Probably a little bit of both. First off religion doesn't deserve respect people do. They're entitled to practice their religion to their heart's content but need to realize their religious freedom begins and ends with them. Too many of these types including Christians wish to impose their religious beliefs onto everyone else. Religion is not off limits to ridicule, criticism, or questioning. Would you be cool with them forcing you to wear a hijab?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:49 PM
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Then you fundamentally don't believe it's a "state's rights" issue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:35 PM
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So you'd be cool with a different set of justices with a different interpretation changing it once again?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:09 PM
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So you're cool with the Supreme Court flip flopping on past precedents thar stood for decades simply because they have a "different interpretation" of the Constitution? The Supreme Court is utterly useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:01 PM
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I agree American Christians have religious privilege. I would not say American Muslims are oppressed. Do they get a lot of flack? Sure, but I would say that's because their values do not align with Western values. If you go to Dearborn Michigan where there is a huge population of Muslims, I don't think you would find it a very pleasant place to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:54 AM
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In Roe v. Wade (1973), the U.S. Supreme Court recognized abortion as a liberty right under the Fourteenth Amendment. Abortion was protected by the Constitution and ruled on as such by a conservative majority in 1973. Then 49 years later we have a different group of conservative stooges who say it should be a "state's rights" issue. As a caveat, the state I live in voted to make recreational marijuana legal 4 years ago and it passed. But the governor said, nah I'm vetoing that and considering it …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:27 AM
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Then your state's rights are dog shit. Why have a constitution then that protects certain rights and then your state constitution says otherwise? For example, you're allowed to bear arms in the US under the 2nd amendment, but some states have banned AR-15's?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:06 AM
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Based upon what? I'm a man who has a child and love being a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:32 AM
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But in your example you would be committing a crime in one country and then returning to your country of origin, the United States is "one" country. So in your "state's rights" view I should be criminalized for smoking weed in a state where it's legal even if my "state of origin" it is illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:31 AM
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You're definition of oppression is the same as Christians claiming they are being "oppressed" in the US. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:51 PM
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But we are the "United" States. If someone wants to do something that is illegal in their state but legal in another they should be able to without being punished. Otherwise you don't fundamentally believe it's a "state's rights" issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:47 PM
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But the poor treatment of women is by "some" men not ALL men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:37 PM
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You're assuming access to birth control and feminism promoting childlessness are mutually exclusive, they're not. Both things can be simultaneously true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:28 PM
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Never watched those, but I'm sure those are all fictional shows/movies so not really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:38 PM
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Really? Name the blue pill sources explaining the negative qualities of female nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:36 PM
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Women are selecting men based upon their personalities? 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:01 PM
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No, it's hidden because it doesn't exactly paint women in the greatest light and that's not socially acceptable now is it? You mean women aren't sugar and spice and everything nice? Society has no problem highlighting the bad qualities of men but if you do the same towards women, look out. Who ever told you that female nature is only good?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:26 PM
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What you fail to understand though is though women no longer "need men" they still want all the same things provided to them by men when they once needed men. It'd be different if women were like "hey we don't need you anymore and therefore we will pay our own way in a relationship, but they don't." They still want the benefits of traditional gender roles when it benefits them and the benefits of feminism when it benefits them. This is what guys are upset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:01 PM
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I agree however modern day feminists will simultaneously say they are opposed to traditional gender roles while wanting access to them when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:00 PM
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😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:35 PM
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What are you even doing right now bringing up no fault divorce, alimony, the border, etc? You just bouncing all over the place with no direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:29 AM
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This is hilarious because you can literally find countless videos of feminists saying they can do everything a man can do, and that men ain't shit, and that the world don't need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:27 AM
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Dude... reading comprehension. Try it. I bet if you asked me what my position is on one of those things you mentioned you would probably find that you and I are not far apart. But you just blindly assume I am blaming women for everything. Like no fault divorce for example, I completely support it. I am not advocating for no fault divorce to be abolished.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:23 AM
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If you are accountable for your actions and your actions alone why then did you bring up alimony, no fault divorce, the border issue, etc. as if I'm to blame for those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:12 AM
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Yep, feminists nowadays will tell you that men and women are the same and that women can do everything a man can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:01 AM
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Then you haven't listened to what modern feminists are saying. I know it sound's crazy right? That's how far feminism has gone over the edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:59 AM
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You tell me. You are the one who asked me how I take accountability. I'm simply quoting you. You clearly can't even remember what you wrote a few comments back.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:57 AM
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Wow! You can't even re read your past comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:50 AM
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You know I quoted you when you said how do you take accountability, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:48 AM
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Because you utterly fail at taking accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:37 AM
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"Who’s responsible for “pussified weak men”? Who whined about “ Men in western society are not allowed to have standards only women”? Ugh that would be women who are responsible for those "weak men." Boys being raised by single moms, an education system heavily influenced by feminism, boys/men not being allowed to be men because that's "toxic masculinity," family law which utterly screws men over, I could keep going the well is deeper. But unfortunately you will never see how women have in large…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:13 AM
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So then you're not a feminist based upon what you wrote. Feminists believe that men and women are the same, we are not. Feminists believe that women can do everything a man can do, they cannot. At what point does your feminism come into play since you're a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:05 AM
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You don't have to have empathy for my "plight" because I don't suffer from generational trauma. You're just unnecessarily making yourself a victim at this point because you have a victim mindset complex. Just like Christians who constantly feel they are being "oppressed," they are not. They just don't like that people don't take their religious bullshit seriously anymore. "Dude, re-read. I asked how you feel about those issues" I have to sit here and explain my position on all those topics examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:58 AM
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First off, you don't suffer from generational trauma, that's ludicrous. I must suffer from generational trauma from all the men who fought and died in the World Wars. Oh wait I don't because I wasn't there and didn't experience that, gtfo with that bullshit. Second off, your examples you cited that you believe affect women in present times, please demonstrate how this is a uniquely female problem? Alimony, no fault divorce, border crisis, etc. those only affect women somehow? You are the one who…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:47 AM
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First off, those are things that affect men as well. They are not gender specific. Second off, I never said I didn't want to discuss past treatment of women, I fully acknowledge they were treated unfairly. But you and I know you are not one of those "women of the past" and I had nothing to do with their treatment nor condone the behavior that was imposed upon them. Third off, you don't even know what my position is on any of those policies nor have you demonstrated that they only affect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:28 AM
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Cool, so you're fine acknowledging that women are weaker overall and cannot do most of the physically laborous jobs that men can do. After all, your female biology cannot be equalized, your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:21 AM
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Huh? What do any of those things have to do with the topic at hand? You literally said I am responsible for the "shitty attitudes" and "shitty behavior" of men for thousands of years. You've yet to explain yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:19 AM
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I am accountable for my actions and my actions alone. I don't hold these so called "shit attitudes" and "shit behavior" that you speak of. I have a wife and a daughter both of which who are not raging harcore feminists. Once again please explain for me why I should be held accountable for "shit attitudes" and "shit behavior" of men from a time gone past?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:53 AM
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"Huh. That’s peculiar. What, exactly, is your chronological threshold for shit attitudes and shit behavior? Is it centuries? Decades? Years? Months? Weeks?" So you're responsible for the slavery that took place in the US in the 1800s? Using your logic you're responsible for every atrocity that took place by your ancestors. See how fucked up that sounds? You grew up in a world under feminism where your so called "shit attitudes" and "shit behavior" are incredibly insignificant to the way women we…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:47 AM
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At least your honest about not being a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:25 AM
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So you're Redpilled as well 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:24 AM
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But you're getting "husband privileges" prior to getting married. If you weren't you wouldn't be pressuring him to marry you. Clearly he has already demonstrated he has qualities you like otherwise you wouldn't be in a relationship with him. Stop with this "forever girlfriend" nonsense as if it's only men who benefit in the relationship stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:52 PM
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Do you not know what one of the best selling books of all time is? Purchased mostly by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:47 PM
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Further confirming the Red pill. Women don't like "pussified weak men." You said it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:28 PM
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I mean who needs that feminist equality stuff right? Feminism only seeks equality when it benefits them and when it doesn't it's traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:25 PM
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Ahh so you're into traditional genders roles? Telling a man to "man up" is the equivalent of telling a woman to get back into the kitchen. Nice toxic misandry 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:23 PM
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I don't hold modern people responsible for events that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. That is morally disgusting. Why do you hold modern men accountable for things that happened hundreds/thousands of years ago that we had nothing to do with? Pretty disgusting if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:15 PM
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But you're making the same argument that modern white people should be held responsible for slavery in the 1800s in the US. I have nothing to do with that nor share the same beliefs of the people that enacted those atrocities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:54 PM
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I agree with both points you made. However a man doesn't need to be a simp to get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:10 PM
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And you wonder why men don't want to be in a relationship with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:22 AM
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Cool. So that means you'd be okay with her going to another state to hang out with a male friend for a few days by herself? A male friend that you do not know? Because hey you have different boundaries right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:11 AM
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So you're a traditionalist who's opposed to modern feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:53 PM
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So he's expected to support you despite you being a modern non traditional empowered independent boss babe with your own money? If you want a guy to financially support you fine however you don't get to call yourself any of those labels I listed. That would be a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 11:17 PM
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Why should a man financially support a woman nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:15 PM
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Nope RP is just pointing out basic observations about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:14 PM
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No I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:04 PM
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Would that have been the preferable thing to do? Sure. I guess guys are so used to not getting closure from women and being ghosted (I know plenty of guys this has happened too) that he felt he didn't need to give her closure. If he had simply stated, "I don't think we're sexually compatible" it would have turned into a huge argument or sob fest from her saying why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:37 PM
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So let me get this straight, a woman can impose a 10 date rule or 3 month rule before any physical intimacy happens all the while he's giving her time, dates, money, energy, attention, validation, etc. and then when physical intimacy finally happens he decides him and her are not sexually/physically compatible. What did he do wrong? He respected her rules, her boundaries, then decided she was not for him. It seems like he put forth more effort into the relationship than what he was getting in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:47 AM
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I have never heard of men simping for a prolific female serial killer but I could list many male serial killers that woman have simped for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:30 AM
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1) It's not possible for a man to commit paternity fraud. That's the point I'm trying to make. This is solely the result of female promiscuity. Sure are there man whores who won't stick around to raise the kid, deadbeat dads, men who won't provide for their children, absolutely. In all of these scenarios though he can know with 100% certainty that he is the father if she has been faithful, however the woman cannot know with 100% certainty who the father is if she has not been faithful. Men have …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:05 AM
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1) You are not getting this. Please explain for me what you think paternity fraud is? Or paternity uncertainty? 2)Then why do women routinely hook up with men they know would not commit to them, fuckboys? Nice guys who would be willing to commit are cast aside. Women get the ick from nice guys. Women pick the shitty men and then wonder why he won't commit to her. 3)No the study shows that men have higher libidos and have no options. I literally know zero men who routinely have the privilege of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:30 AM
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1) This doesn't negate paternity uncertainty. If a man is sleeping with 3 different women and gets one of them pregnant he knows he the father. If a woman is sleeping with 3 different men she doesn't know who the father is. 2) Where are all these men at getting attention from women? Is this in the land of make believe? Men do not get attention, compliments, or validation from women. 3) So you give a bogus response as to why it is much easier for 1women to get laid than men by stating men will ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:05 AM
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To be clear, I don't think it's in men's best interest to have a high body count either. I'm simply pointing out that it seems to be less detrimental to men that it is to women. Most women don't want a virgin and most men if they could would prefer a virgin. I think there are better reasons as to why a man doesn't want a promiscuous women vs the other way around. 1) Paternity uncertainty 2) Studies have shown it is much harder for a woman to pair bond the more partners she's had. 3) Sex is much …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:17 AM
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Nope I'm married and have a daughter. My wife was a virgin when I met her. I only had a few partners before I met her. How can your current partner have been a virgin but simultaneously have slept with three woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:42 AM
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I know good looking guys who still have to put in the work. It's not like the women just drop their panties around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:38 AM
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So a man is not a viable option for marriage if he cannot support a family? So you want a man that has money? I love how women on here love to shit all over the Redpill but when you converse with them they end up confirming everything the redpill says.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:36 AM
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So your preference is virgin men? But you're not a virgin I'm assuming?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:32 AM
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So if you were dating a woman who told you she was exclusive with you and you knock her up only to find out the baby isn't yours because she's sleeping around? You wouldn't mind that all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:22 AM
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So men and women are the same? Men didn't evolve to spread seed and women didn't evolve to carry one baby a year? Hmm... I always thought men and women were different 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:16 AM
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Most women don't know that a man's sperm can live inside them for a week. Dudes are having sex with you while another dude's sperm is still inside of you. Disgusting 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:09 AM
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Except there are way more virgin men nowadays. Can't say the same about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:02 AM
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Men have less sex now because they are single? Sure, not necessarily by choice though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:01 AM
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No because those guys still probably had to put in some amount of work (gym, money, social skills, charisma, etc.) The men still have to pursue women, ask them out, set up the dates, pay for the date, be expected to make the first move. Women don't have to do any of those things to get laid. Sure the attractive man it's going to be much easier, but he's gonna have to do some amount of work. Women just have to show up and look pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:00 AM
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Ahh so you're one of the "exceptions" of women who say they would rather sleep with a virgin who doesn't know what he's doing vs. a man with experience? Not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:26 AM
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You're no longer arguing in good faith. I'm done with you. You expect me to answer your questions but won't answer mine. How convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:23 AM
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I didn't know a cock being used up is the same thing as having a bunch of STDs. Ahh yes, do we need to start on single moms? Every dude loves to date a single mom, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:22 AM
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So you think the wall doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:01 AM
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Sure, but women have already stated they don't find most men attractive. Those "some men" are much more rare and are the exception. Average to below average women still have no problem getting sex. This isn't the same for guys. There's been multiple studies showing how men are having much less sex than they used too, and it's not because they don't want too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:59 AM
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They're so obvious, but women don't tend to understand them until they hit the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:46 AM
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😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:45 AM
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Cock can't get used up, only vaginas
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:44 AM
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Ahh there it is, you finally admitted men don't want promiscuous women. When women are asked though if they want a man who has experience or is a virgin, they literally never pick virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:43 AM
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Yeah arguing with feminists is pretty entertaining
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:41 AM
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You're just confirming redpill that woman don't like nice guys. You want a guy to be an asshole to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:40 AM
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Why are you on here then if you don't care how anybody else thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:39 AM
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1) She didn't bring up the 666's I did. 2) Correct, what's your point? Apparently she is not allowed to think for herself or respond to me since you seemed to be her "mediator." Why don't you just let her speak for herself instead of assuming what you think "she already knows."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:37 AM
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Typical feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:32 AM
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What is your question?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:29 AM
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But regret implies they did something wrong or made a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:29 AM
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You're not answering my questions? All you've done is repeatedly state, "why did you ask her something she already knows?" You're speaking more for her than she is for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:25 AM
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Oh okay you're not an antinatalist gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:23 AM
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What do you want me to say, "I'm sorry." 🤷‍♂️ I'm asking you a genuine question about antinatalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:21 AM
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Since you're an antinatalist why do you feel this is the best option?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:18 AM
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Sure people with low expectations can end up unhappy as well. However when women have the clear advantage when it comes to dating nowadays especially with the invention of social media and dating apps and she's not able to find what she wants, who's to blame for that? If roles were reversed and men had the clear advantage when it comes to dating and they were striking out left and right, you know what women would tell men? Stop being so picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:13 AM
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Yes, and even though you will never admit it some of them are single, child free and unhappy due to unrealistic expectations. You can call it "not settling" all you want, but when women have the clear advantage/privilege when it comes to dating and they spoil it, you can't blame all that shit on men. A lot of times her expectations may be too high or unrealistic, especially when we hear the things women want in a man and we (men) are scratching our heads thinking, she's never gonna get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:05 AM
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Obviously no one at any age is guaranteed a good partner, a good lover, etc. But you don't think women are drastically reducing their chances by stating they want a man with the 666's?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:57 PM
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So if women are not settling according to you, they are all happy then in their 30s, 40s, 50s who claim they wish they would have had kids, who claim they wish they could have started a family with a nice guy, etc. If they're not settling then they're all happy being single and child free according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:54 PM
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Kind of off subject, but why do you think less people are getting married nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:32 PM
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Of course you don't "feel" like it matters or keep track, you're looking at it through the eyes of a woman. You're not a man and don't care about how a man thinks. I could sit here and give you plenty of reasons why men don't like promiscuous women and you would dismiss every one of them. You know why? Because you're not a man and don't know how a man thinks nor do you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:29 PM
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Yes, they do date you (that isn't in dispute) they are not a valid option though otherwise you wouldn't be single. Do you understand what I'm saying? I have no problem accepting you probably get a ton of dates, but they are not men that you want otherwise you wouldn't be single. Hence the illusion of optionality. It's like the women with Onlyfans or hundreds of thousands of Instagram followers who are men. Guess what? Most of those men are not desirable. Most of those men are simps. Most of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:23 PM
8

So the high divorce rate doesn't indicate anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:09 PM
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Yeah that would be a big no for me. If you can't even remember how many people you've slept with? WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:09 PM
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If you could understand analogies instead of immediately going to your emotions. Please explain for me then why the stereotype exists of men having higher body counts are often viewed more positively and women having higher body counts are viewed more negatively? And don't just say because of "toxic masculinity." Please show me the guy that wants a woman who has had a lot of sexual partners? Just recently Lana Rhoades a prominent female pornstar is trying to get all of her content wiped off the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:06 PM
-2

Okay if these are "disparaging names" and body count doesn't matter, what's your body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:45 PM
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Okay I didn't need the rest of your comment. Since you agreed with me that it is easier for women to get sex, things that are easily accessible are not as valuable. It is much harder for a guy to get laid and requires much more work/effort and is therefore more rare. Things that are more rare are valued more, things that are easily accessible are not valued as much. This is just one of the many reasons why men do not like female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:43 PM
-1

I literally said you can be as picky as you want but that doesn't mean you're going to get the guy you want. The more expectations you have the smaller your dating pool becomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:30 PM
0

That optionality you have is an illusion. You know how I know this? Most of the guys you believe are options are guys you would never date or be interested in. Especially when they are men that are 40+.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:26 PM
-4

Simple question: is it easier for women to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:23 PM
5

Sure however as a woman in your 40s your options are far less than they were in your early 20s. You're allowed to be as picky as you want but that doesn't mean the guy you want is out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:12 PM
12

But there is a ton of unhappy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:09 PM
7

Huh? So the woman who finally realizes she wants to have kids and get married at age 38 is not "settling" at all? The guy she gets at 38 is the same caliber of guy she could get at 22? Me thinks not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:01 PM
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No. Men have no problem dating women who are mid and most men probably date women who are in fact mid. The problem is most women who are mid think they are 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:53 PM
1

Which things about divorce that I listed are false?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:26 AM
1

Of course you wouldn't, you're a woman and it paints women in a bad light. What else about what I said am I being stubborn about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:22 PM
1

This is from google: It's difficult to accurately estimate the frequency of paternity fraud, but some say it could be as high as 28–30%. However, others say the actual prevalence is lower, with rates ranging from 3.7–11% depending on the circumstances. For example, a 2022 study found that 11% of men seeking paternity testing in the US were not the biological fathers of the children they were raising, while a Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health article found that only 3.7% of the general…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:19 PM
2

You said design and evolution are not mutually exclusive. You also referenced "intelligent ecosystems." There are no "intelligent ecosystems" and there is no evidence of "design." You're just being pedantic at this point. Why bring up "design" when there is literally no evidence for it, nor is it scientifically testable?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:15 PM
2

You're just back pedaling at this point. I literally just demonstrated how the court system and the National Academy of Sciences and the National Center for Science Education (NCSE) have both stated that intelligent design is not science. Just give up feminist, you've lost this argument. You've provided what? Nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:10 PM
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However, in studies that solely looked at couples who obtained paternity testing because paternity was being disputed, there are higher levels: an incidence of 17% to 33% (median of 26.9%). That's pretty high if asked me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternity_fraud
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:06 PM
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😂😂😂 Oh okay 🤦 Show me the peer reviewed research demonstrating that intelligent design is science? A quick Google search will yield you this: Intelligent design (ID) is not considered science by the scientific community, which includes the National Academy of Sciences and the National Center for Science Education (NCSE). Some say ID is a pseudoscientific argument for the existence of God, and a form of creationism that lacks empirical support. Others say it's untestable and cannot be validated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:04 PM
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Bro what? This was the Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School District. Dover Area School District, 400 F. Supp. 2d 707 (M.D. Pa. 2005) was the first direct challenge brought in the United States federal courts testing a public school district policy that required the teaching of intelligent design (ID), ultimately found by the court to not be science. Do a little research.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:58 PM
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Let's just take one of my examples, paternity fraud. We know through paternity tests, family tree DNA tests, and men getting their DNA tested to see if there child has a hereditary condition that have shown that many, many pregnancies the father is not the biological father even though he was under the impression that he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:27 PM
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Sure, but as of yet there has been no scientific models supporting intelligent design. Intelligent design has already been ruled on in a court of law as not being science.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:22 PM
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The planet that is the result of natural processes such as evolution. Not the planet that you believe was "designed" or the result of "intelligent" processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:56 PM
1

Sure and the vast, vast majority of men are not raping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:54 PM
1

But in what way are they supposed to adapt and at what cost?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:25 PM
1

I wasn't simply referring to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:21 PM
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But infinite population growth or even infinite economic growth on a planet with finite resources isn't a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:19 PM
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Ahh yes paternity fraud committed by the woman, women not allowing men to see their child, women wanting half or more of everything a man has worked for in divorce even when it was accrued before the marriage, a man having to pay lifetime alimony to his ex, I could keep going. But according to you "rape" only occurs as a physical assault. What do you call it then when a man is falsely accused of rape? Loses his job, loses family members, loses friends, social reputation is destroyed and literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:14 PM
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I don't know if I would call the current "status quo" widespread monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:05 PM
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Sure, that doesn't make it sustainable though. 99% of the animals that once existed on this planet are now extinct. Changes in allele frequencies (variations in genes) within biological evolution are not always beneficial adaptations or mutations. Trying to equate the current dating scene which is a small blip on the map in evolutionary time scales does mean it is sustainable long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:33 AM
2

Ahh so men getting screwed over post divorce is not financial rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:15 AM
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😂😂 Nice strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:12 AM
1

How is that not counting the hits and ignoring the misses?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:07 AM
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Homeless men approach everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:49 AM
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Where did I say I hate philosophy? You're the one who's a creationist, that's literally anti science and anti philosophy. Ahh so you do believe in objective truth. Why is it you simultaneously say we can't know objective truth when you just agreed with me that it is objectively true that you are a woman? Please make the distinction between "practical knowledge" and "truth?" If I say I have practical knowledge that I know how to drive a car, use a computer, cook a meal on the stove that is practi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:14 PM
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It's always the "one who filed the paperwork line." We know this is BS because when non married women are asked who is the one who "breaks up" with their partner and women usually are the ones to report they did the dumping. Women are the ones who just like leaving relationships, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:39 PM
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Then why today are women still initiating 80% of the divorces?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:48 PM
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That's the only truth I care about because that's the only "truth" we have access too. You're basically saying because we can't "know" things with 100% absolute certainty therefore we can't know anything. This is absurd. I only care about practical knowledge or truth. Absolute Truth is useless as we don't have access to it nor do we live our lives/make decisions based upon it. A color blind man seeing a stop sign as "grey" is seeing it incorrectly as color blindness is a disability and visual im…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 11:35 PM
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You're an intelligent designer? 😂😂😂 Why didn't you just say you're a creationist in the first place? Truth is that which corresponds to reality. Is it objectively true that you are a woman? Nobody is giving you rights. Rights are privileges that human beings fought for. They're ultimately just ideas that we liked and fought for them. The rights we have are the rights we fought for. The rights we don't have are the rights we didn't fight for. If you don't believe in objective truth, please define…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:53 PM
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😂😂😂😂 You're clearly not educated philosophically. Please demonstrate how the Universe "cares" about us? For the Universe or Nature to not be indifferent to us or to "care" about us it would have to have agency. Only things with agency can care about stuff. The Universe has no agency. Most of the Universe (99.99999%) is a radiation filled vacuum that is completely lethal and inhospitable to life. Let me ask you this: if you're in the jungle do you have rights in the Jungle? Does Nature care about…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:24 PM
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I never said there isn't meaning or purpose to life. Quite the opposite. What I said is, there is no "intrinsic" or "inherent" value/meaning/purpose to life. The Universe/Nature is indifferent to us, it doesn't care about what we want, what we value, what we find meaningful, etc. WE are the ones who give meaning to life subjectively. It is not externally imposed upon us or found from the ground up. It comes from each and every one of our minds subjectively. But hey great job 👍 completely miscons…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:15 PM
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I wouldn't call those components in an ecosystem "value." They have functions not value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:43 PM
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So if you think you're a brain in a vat do you look both ways when you cross the road?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:53 AM
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I didn't ask you to show me something that "exists" outside of your mind. I asked you to show me something that has "value" outside/independent of your mind. I fully acknowledge there is probably an external world it's just that it's completely filtered through our brain/senses so we are not seeing it the way it "truly" is, but the way we are. The goal is to make your internal model of reality align as close as possible to the external world. The whole map/territory analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:49 AM
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So you have to go all the way to hard solipsism to recognize that nothing has intrinsic value/worth? What does Cogito Ergo Sum mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:40 AM
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No, not my opinion. Show me some "value" that exists independent of your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:26 AM
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No, human beings don't have "intrinsic value" because nothing has intrinsic value. Value is created and assessed by a mind and is therefore subjective by definition. Now do I think human beings have value? Sure, but they have the value that you and I subjectively assign them. My daughter has more value or worth to me than your life does. In regards to leagues or "male made hierarchies" are they man made? Sure, to some degree however some people are far more attractive than others and tend to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:21 AM
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Why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:00 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:07 AM
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You're literally using a Redpill line directly from Richard Cooper: women don't care about a man's struggles, they sit at the finish line and pick the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:11 AM
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Not to side track the conversation, but since you're bi I have a question. I'm sure you've heard the statistic trotted out here many times about how women initiate divorces 80% of the time, 90% if she's college educated. And the usual response will be, "she could've just been the one to file the paperwork." So when we take men out of the equation and look at lesbian divorces they tend to divorce about the same rate as heterosexual couples. However when we look at the divorce rate between gay men…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:00 PM
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That's fair, I agree with for the most part. I guess what I'm more referring to is a woman expecting a man to be emotionally vulnerable with her and when he does she views it as weak. Or when women will say that want their man to be a problem solver, but also want him to be emotionally vulnerable, this translates to "why is he not able to solve his emotional problems?" Or when she asks him how he feels about some issue in the relationship and he explains that it is something she is either doing/…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:04 PM
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Explain what you mean by emotionally mature? Women will often say this and when they're with a guy that is "too emotional" they get the ick. But if he's to logical and rational he gets told he's not "emotionally vulnerable." A man being emotionally vulnerable with a woman will often get used against him so he learns to keep his feelings to himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 08:14 PM
1

So what are your expectations then? Are they realistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:27 PM
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What's your point? You're just acknowledging a Redpill idea at this point that women are hypergamous and want high value men? Your point is.....?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:14 PM
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Ahh so there are no expectations you have of men when you go out on a date with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:34 PM
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Pretty much any woman they want because they have options. Unlike a woman who is a solid 3 or 4 and thinks she's a 10 only has the "illusion" of optionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:29 PM
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You're the one who brought up "high value men" not me. I don't give a shit about high value men. I'm only pointing out that there are men who make up a small subset of society. This might be hard for you to understand since all women think they're "high value." They all think they're 10's, their words not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:20 PM
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So men that comprise less than 1% of the male population are not scarce? What does less than 1% mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:10 PM
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Okay this is your perspective from a woman, that's fine. Can you not fathom that a guy may require different things in order to determine whether he truly likes you or not? I mean men and women are not the same. What if a guy is really into you and you get to the intimacy stage and he finds out you have a bunch of sexual hangups and realizes you and him are not compatible? But he would not know this until he has sex with you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:11 PM
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Okay let me contribute then. You claim a man may lose interest after they have sex, sure I can agree with that. You may not want to hear this but, a man doesn't know whether he really likes you or not until he has sex with you. What if you really liked a guy during the courtship process and then when it comes time to being physically intimate with him you find out he has a micro penis? What if he finds out you and him are not sexually compatible in the slightest despite him digging your vibe dur…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:23 PM
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How is it irrelevant and off topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:57 PM
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Oh so the magical number is 3 dates? How is a guy supposed to know that? Also there are plenty of women who impose a 3 month or 10 date rule or some variation of that. You're acting like I'm making an inaccurate statement when women do this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:52 PM
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How so? What do you think a desirable guy is going to do when you've made him wait 3 months or 10 dates before you're physically intimate with him? He's eventually going to think this chick just isn't that into me even though you could really like him. The guy you want to wait for until commitment might not be a guy you actually like but rather a desperate guy who is willing to wait that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:48 PM
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How so? What do you think a desirable guy is going to do when you've made him wait 3 months or 10 dates before you're physically intimate with him? He's eventually going to think this chick just isn't that into me even though you could really like him. The guy you want to wait for until commitment might not be a guy you actually like but rather a desperate guy who is willing to wait that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:47 PM
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How so? What do you think a desirable guy is going to do when you've made him wait 3 months or 10 dates before you're physically intimate with him? He's eventually going to think this chick just isn't that into me even though you could really like him. The guy you want to wait for until commitment might not be a guy you actually like but rather a desperate guy who is willing to wait that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:47 PM
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It's not about "hating that so much" it's about pointing out a reality for men. Please explain for me then how a man should appropriately respond so he doesn't get taken advantage of?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:43 PM
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"If you have great sex and a fun time and then you mention the other guy you're seeing it lets him know that your continued presence in his life and all that great sex is not something to be taken for granted." And the minute you tell him you're seeing other people he's going to think, "she probably says this to every other guy that she's dating." That "great sex" is being taken for granted though, by you. He's going to immediately lose desire for you and bounce when you tell him that you're hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:41 PM
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So a guy is to believe that a woman is "sexually interested" in him after making him wait 3 months or 10+ dates? He's eventually going to think, "this chick just isn't into me" and he's gonna bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:37 PM
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Don't you find it strange though for generations society has had no problem talking about the good qualities of men as well as the bad ones. But when it comes to women we are only allowed to speak about their good qualities and praise them but must remain quiet when it comes to the bad qualities of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:33 AM
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Well then you're the exception. Most women expect men to pay for the first few dates to show that they're willing to "invest" in her lol. Do you realize it's a lose lose situation for a guy if he doesn't pay? If he doesn't pay or expects the bill to be split she'll think he's cheap. If he leads with his wallet then that is what she is going to continually expect from him. But I know, I know you think men have no burden of performance on the first few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:24 AM
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First off, it's just an analogy. You don't want to be used for sex, cool. Men don't want to be used as a personal ATM. We're also in agreement that you hook up with a guy before you commit, that's redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:50 AM
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Is going on 10+ dates without sex not considered commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:46 AM
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So a man should be expected to buy the car before he test drives it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:33 AM
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Nobody owes anybody sex. Nobody owes anybody a relationship. Women don't owe men sex, but if there is no sex then there is no relationship. Women want commitment prior to there being sex. A man is not going to commit if he doesn't get any sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:30 AM
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You mean the women who are trashed for literally acting like trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:25 AM
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"The era we're in now strikes me as a temporary overcorrection." Overcorrection in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:23 AM
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Well said brotha!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:14 AM
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"If he wants you, he has to act. Make him take all the steps towards a non-casual relationship." If you want him, you're not supposed to act? So just one way access then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:08 AM
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So he has to buy the car before he is allowed to test drive it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:56 AM
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"The men's equivalent would be to pay for dates and buy the woman a ton of things and that will make her want to date him, and we all know how that advice would play out. It just doesn't work, the vast majority of people either consciously or subconsciously take as much as they can get and give as little as they can get away with." What you want is the equivalent of a man going to the car dealership and the salesman says, you can look at the car, maybe sit in the seat, walk around it, but by no …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:39 AM
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I think he's just referring to the disproportionate libido between men and women. Men have 17 times more testosterone than women and as such are usually more horny than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:33 AM
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"If you want commitment from a man, you find men who want commitment and you dismiss the rest with great fury. Give out as little sex (or none, I prefer none) until you have received a genuine and heartfelt commitment you see as viable in the long-term. Have discipline. Position before submission." What you women don't understand and this might sound crass but, men don't know if we really like you until we have sex with you first. You want that genuine heartfelt commitment from a nice guy that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:30 AM
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"that's a man advising women to give men everything right off the bat" Isn't that what women are expecting of men right off the bat? A man is expected to give you his time, money, attention, validation, resources, be chivalrous, be a gentleman, be masculine, show that he has money, be 6ft tall, be attractive, don't be short, bald, broke, awkward, etc. It seems like women want a man to be the total package right off the bat. If he has one thing that gives her the ick then she rules him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:19 AM
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"Stopped others from falling on the deep end and pulled my brother out of it by myself." And how did you "pull your brother out of it?" Guarantee it wouldn't work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:02 AM
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This is the same as telling men to "just be yourself." Men who already tick a bunch of her boxes or meet her looks threshold can afford to "just be themselves." However if he doesn't have it going on in the looks department telling him to "just be yourself" isn't going to help him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:59 PM
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When women all say they're 10's, who's defining their league?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:51 PM
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Why did you get into a relationship with him then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:47 PM
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Sure it may have worked at the time, but no longer works as women are entitled when it comes to dating apps and feel they don't need to do the work anymore. There has to be a reason for the change that you don't want to address. Can't simply just blame this on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:47 PM
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Okay if we're talking simply about business it was a failed experiment. Companies should not create models that require women to initiate the conversation because it doesn't work. All business there no moral speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:29 PM
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So it's better for the dating app to completely benefit women? Women have all the options. Women don't have to make the first move. Women don't have to get rejected. Women get to be picky and let the cream rise to the top. What advantages to the men get?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:18 PM
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Yes they switched to a business model that every other dating app uses to generate revenue after realizing making woman initiate the first move was a failed experiment. You can call it business all you want, sure but it's still a failed experiment. Imagine if every dating app relied on that model, they all would fail because woman are incapable of making the first move. After all it's just business (your words.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:04 PM
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Ahh so it's all business when it involves men being the ones who get rejected and have to start the conversation. But when women are the ones who are expected to lead the conversation and potentially get rejected resulting in Bumble losing revenue they have to go back to the tried and true model where men have to lead the conversation, get rejected, get no dms, etc. Women don't want true equality when it doesn't benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:41 PM
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So women are dominating the trades? You're just being disingenuous. Sure, men who have other options are not lining up to do that work as well, but it is still predominantly performed by men. That is just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:49 PM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:04 PM
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Woman do this shit all the time. You should look up the statistics on it. And this is one of the many reasons why men do not want a promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:34 PM
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You realize men literally designed, built, and maintain the infrastructure of society? If men don't do these jobs no one will. Women sure as hell aren't lining up to do these jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:22 PM
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How about women not being held accountable for lying to men about paternity fraud? A man could literally pay child support and or raise a child for years only to find out the child wasn't his because the mother was sleeping around. And guess what? No accountability for these women. They just get off scott free and we know this actually happens quite a bit now thorough paternity tests, family tree DNA tests, hospital visits where the dad has to submit a DNA test if there is some sort of genetic t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:56 PM
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Sure, should they not also have to do all the physically laborous jobs that men do? The gross jobs, dangerous jobs, physically demanding jobs, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:17 PM
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Paying for dates
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:55 PM
1

Okay then how do you define blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:34 PM
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I'll ask you the same question. Why does feminism require a stand in?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:35 PM
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What's the stand in for masculinity considering you're a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:17 PM
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Good job on not answering my questions on blue pill ideology 👍 Totally read what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:05 PM
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Ahh let's hear the pros of blue pill bullshit? Come on now, let's hear those blue pill zingers. Please inform as to how I should do exactly what society has dictated for me to do and accept blue pill lies that fail men left and right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:45 PM
4

Yep that's what I thought about your redpill comment. It's okay you can be a man hating feminist man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:41 PM
2

Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:40 PM
3

You mean like feminists when you criticize their ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:35 PM
1

Then you're more secure than I am. I do not want my wife (I'm married) having pictures/videos of herself on the internet (permanently) of her getting deep throated, gang banged or whatever else. If you're cool with that you do you. Definitely would not want my 8 year old daughter to come across that someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:20 AM
1

So you're cool with other dudes (some you may know) getting to see your girlfriend naked or getting dicked down and they are essentially getting it for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:08 AM
1

So you're cool with having to work your ass off to maybe get to see your girl naked, pay for dates, entertainment, etc and your coworker Bob gets to see what you get to see for the price of a Chipotle burrito?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:46 AM
1

Even if you're in a relationship with an Onlyfans content creator?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:41 AM
1

Yes and they realized women were not bringing in the bacon for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:32 AM
1

So you're pro OnlyFans then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:31 AM
6

Why do you hate men so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:29 AM
2

Yes and they had to appeal to traditional gender roles to generate more profit. Almost like telling women to lead the conversation was a bad idea. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:24 AM
1

Nope not really. For an ideology to be considered a cult it has to fit the BITE model. B: behavior control I: information control T: thought control E: emotional control I don't see the Redpill controlling any of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:18 AM
0

And that's exactly why women cannot be leaders. Why not message men first like the app was initially designed for? Nope still has to rely on men for traditional roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:14 AM
1

A lot of guys like Rich Cooper.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:57 AM
1

Because it demonstrates that a woman will put forth effort into getting what she wants. Instead she is at the mercy of men who message her first, most of whom she's not even attracted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:51 AM
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Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:47 AM
1

I agree with everything you said, I'm simply pointing out: it's unfair that a woman has to deal with all the reproductive risk and it's unfair that a man has no say in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:22 AM
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"I also think your clear inability to look at the woman's side of things points to a deep lack of compassion." Even though I literally stated earlier that I am pro choice. Thanks though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 11:16 PM
1

So any female representative in the US arguing on behalf of feminism is not recruiting?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:52 PM
2

Ahh so the sex that happens before that can never be considered irresponsible on the woman's part only when the man does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:50 PM
1

So in essence woman are not accountable for being promiscuous, sexually irresponsible but men are? Please explain for me what entails a woman being sexually responsible with her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:26 PM
5

So let me ask you this: if a man knocks up a woman he wants nothing to do with and she decides to keep the baby, you would probably claim he needs to "step up and be a man and financially support his child" correct? But if a woman gets knocked up by a man that she wants nothing to do with and subsequently has an abortion, and someone tells her she "should've kept her damn legs closed" you would agree with that statement, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:19 PM
1

Because when a man tries to assert any sorts of boundaries or rules in a relationship he is immediately met with, "you're controlling me," "you're just insecure," "you're just intimidated," etc. I'm all for people to do what they want with their lives within the confines of the law, what I'm not okay with is being told I'm a misogynist, controlling, insecure, etc. for simply recognizing that there should be rules in a relationship otherwise the relationship doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:15 PM
1

Yep, you're lines are probably drawn at, "a woman should be able to do whatever she wants in a relationship" regardless of what the man may think?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:02 PM
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So you're saying the man is only free from obligations if the woman allows him to be? That's how autonomy works right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:58 PM
0

Just not authority over his financial obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:45 PM
2

Good luck bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:39 PM
2

Sure, but don't you find it funny that for eons we as a society have had no problems pointing out the "good qualities" of men and the "bad qualities" of men. But when it comes to women we are only allowed to talk the "good qualities" and if we talk about the bad we are instantly labeled as sexist, misogynist, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:18 PM
1

Sure JBP makes good points on certain things, I give him credit for that. When he goes into these deep dives into religion he loses me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:15 PM
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The same way women have no problem grabbing a man's bicep, pec muscle, back, or butt in a bar if she finds him attractive (which is technically sexual assault and underreported) but if a man was to do those things to a woman well....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:07 PM
0

So the man should be expected to support his child and the mother especially when he didn't want the kid in the first place? I thought women were supposed to be strong independent boss babes nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:51 PM
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First off I'm pro choice. Second off, men are expected to be responsible if you keep the baby, but not allowed to feel upset if you aborted and he wanted to keep it? Responsibility comes with authority, the man has no authority over what a woman wishes to do with her body. You expect him to have all the responsibility while having none of the authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:38 PM
1

And this is what you don't understand. The things a man would want in a marriage are already present in that "relationship stage." A man doesn't really benefit from marriage long term but has a lot to lose if the marriage goes south.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:29 PM
1

If the "teachings" have validity they will stand on their own merit. Not because an old book says so or some god decrees it. These are human values not "Christian values." Is it any surprise that cultures all around the world speak of the golden rule some predating Christianity? These are emergent properties as the result of humans being a social species. Not a fan of Jordan Peterson, that guy is the king of word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:27 PM
0

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:20 PM
0

Said no man ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:20 PM
6

"I'm under no delusions that marriage makes people not cheat, or changes the day-to-day operation of the relationship in any meaningful way. What it does signify to me is a more meaningful level of commitment that allows us to plan our lives as a unit." This comment literally contradicts itself. On one hand you said it doesn't change the day to day operation of the relationship in any meaningful way. On the other hand you claim it makes the level of commitment more meaningful?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:18 PM
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Except the divorce rates say you're wrong. You can plan for the next 50-60 years all you want doesn't mean the other person is gonna stick around. And I say that as an Atheist as well. Atheists are supposed to be skeptics and one should be skeptical of marriage as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:10 PM
1

I'm still waiting for Christians to demonstrate how they know it is "God's word" and not just man pretending to speak for God. And no you cannot know anything through faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:05 PM
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This is called "onenitis" within Redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:02 PM
2

Ahh so you just pick and choose what you want to believe out of Christianity like all Christians do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:40 PM
2

Which is exactly why Redpill teaches men to stay away from such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:36 PM
2

Just not the Christian patriarch values am I correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:28 PM
2

Why aren't you blue pill rather than purple pill? None of your comments are in favor of men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:25 PM
2

I did, you said it wasn't pertinent to the topic of conversation. You can keep evading all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:15 PM
6

It's almost like you're Redpilled yourself. You recognize that woman are beauty objects and men are success objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:10 PM
2

Is that what feminism recruits for as well? If so, then men are perfectly justified in pushing back against the toxic aspects of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:08 PM
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