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They just like socialism for the rich then. Rugged individualism pull yourself up by the bootstraps for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:32 AM
3

I didn't know most men were part of the top 1%? You and I ain't getting no tax breaks or lowered tax breaks. Are you aware of the fact that the entire time we were under Biden we were under Trump's tax policies? Biden and Harris failed to get a tax reform bill passed while in office.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:45 PM
2

But voting for people who don't "dislike them" doesn't mean that party or it's policies are doing anything for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:20 PM
2

Can you list what tolerance young Republican men have for people on the left?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:11 PM
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Oh some women want to be "left alone" and some want an "ego boost?" 😂😂 And men are supposed to know which one is which? Either way approaching does not benefit men. You said it yourself, women just want an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:20 PM
1

Your fellow female a few comments up literally said, "women don't want to be approached."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:59 PM
1

What proof do you have of your feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:01 AM
4

Because their actions and behavior will usually contradict what they're claiming they feel. For example, how many of us have heard women say they want a man that is kind and sweet and respects her, and then you look at the last 10 guys she's been with and none of them have any of those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:59 AM
2

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:41 AM
5

Except your fellow women will say it's not acceptable there either. And then the rest will complain that men are not approaching them anymore. Women are the ones making it harder than it has to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:42 PM
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Considered acceptable by who? The same women who tell men to stop approaching them? So let me get this straight, if men are the one's expected to approach it has to be when she wants it, when it's acceptable, on her terms, on her time, at his expense? Do you see why men don't want to approach women anymore? You're just creating this dating landmine field where it is impossible for a man to ever win.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:34 PM
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If women do not want to be approached in the first place as you claim, how are men supposed to meet women? You and I both know that dating apps are shit and benefit women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:07 PM
5

That's probably some of it. But some of these women seem genuinely concerned that men are not approaching them anymore not realizing they are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:42 PM
11

So all the women online complaining that men don't approach them anymore are just full of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:56 PM
15

Now tell that to all the women complaining that men won't approach them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:54 PM
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Huh? So your argument is: men shouldn't approach and women never approach therefore you should just accept your singledom?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:37 PM
1

Sure people can live and die single but what does that have to do with my comment? You're arguing men shouldn't be allowed to approach women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:47 AM
1

Yeah that's cope. A women could do all those things towards a man giving him the impression that she is attracted to him and ultimately end up saying to him "I just view you as a friend." Your whole "mutual attraction" barometer is complete horsesh*t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:35 PM
1

Warm approach? 😂 How does one know there is "mutual attraction?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:05 PM
1

If men should not approach at all, how are they supposed to find a potential partner when women never approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:50 PM
1

Just another way for women to extort even more money from men on top of expensive dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:20 AM
6

Thanks for acknowledging that we live in a gynocentric culture where women are the protected gender and men have no value to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:46 PM
2

Oh so all the women who say, "if a man doesn't pay on the first date he won't be getting a second date," or women who say "men who want to go 50/50 gives me the ick." Those women are all just full of sh*t right? There's no need to broaden my horizons, I live in reality where women don't ever bring up going Dutch. But hey keep living in delulu land.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:33 PM
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Nope not emotional at all. Your argument is akin to all these women saying they've been seually assaulted or seually harassed by men and you're like "well I don't have a problem with it because it hasn't happened to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:58 AM
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Ahh that's right you're the exception, just like every woman on here. Whenever a clear trend or pattern or common complaint is put forth by women, every woman on here is like "that doesn't apply to me." Okay then every woman making videos on the subject matter are all just lying and full of sh*t then. Which means women's complaints shouldn't be taken seriously then, because hey "I dont have a problem with it."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:50 AM
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It's a non issue but women are going to complain about it anyways? Then say they were "used?" But hey it's all good though 👊
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:22 PM
2

Cool, where are the women offering to pay for first dates? Oh that's right they don't exist. Yes men are being used for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 09:34 PM
2

Cool, so women complaining about getting pumped and dumped by attractive men is a non issue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:38 PM
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You literally ignored everything I said. Typical go date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:36 PM
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Yes they use men all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:35 PM
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"I know most men aren't interesting because I've literally talked to them. All kinds of them, many times. All most, physically unappealing or attractive alike, want from me is children and a maid, of which I want neither fate. I wanted pleasurable sex, stimulating conversation, and quality companionship for life." I know most women aren't interesting because I've literally talked to them. All they wanted was a free meal ticket, personal ATM, and all were liars, narcissists or cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:59 PM
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But most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:40 PM
6

Women like to reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:36 PM
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This women clearly doesn't understand what it's like to be rejected over and over again. Eventually you get tired of it and give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:32 PM
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First off most women are incapable of philosophical conversations. Second off, how would you know most men are not interesting? Most men don't even get a chance because they don't meet the looks threshold. You would never know whether they are interesting or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:16 PM
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Men who pick and choose what they want from traditional gender roles end up with zero women and are called losers, brokies, cheap, etc. We don't get the luxury to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:57 PM
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Men shouldn't ask you out either then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:55 PM
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Women do not shower men with love and affection 😂😂😂 Most of the women on here hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:54 PM
2

So wouldn't that make the man "the prize" that you like if you believe all men are worthless, cheap and of low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:52 PM
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Oh I'm understanding, and I knew that you would give that response. The point I'm trying to make is men go after women they are truly attracted too. Women only get to pick from the men who approach them. This is why many of them end up single and lonely because they're expecting Mr Right to come along and magically approach them and it never ends up happening. Because they've chose to take your passive approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:50 PM
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You're just proving my point though, women pick and choose what they want from feminism/traditional gender roles. Men do not get this luxury. Men are expected to adhere to traditional gender roles by society and if they don't, they get zero women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:42 PM
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Are you a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:40 PM
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Men can't afford it either but are still expected too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:36 PM
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Cool so we're in agreement that feminism isn't a coherent ideology with a consistent message? It can mean whatever you want it to mean? 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:35 PM
3

That's not what all the women on the internet say. They all say men are "afraid" or "intimidated" to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:33 PM
3

How is the price of juice men's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:32 PM
1

Sure until you tell them you're not interested in getting married and then they leave your ass. Because they perceive you not putting a ring on their finger as "not moving things forward." Your approach only gets you so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:28 PM
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So you're literally confirming what red pillers say, in that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Men are expected to put in all the effort with zero reciprocation and then women wonder why men don't approach anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:20 PM
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So then you ultimately have to "settle" only for the men who approach you rather than getting the men you truly want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:17 PM
2

And the man who takes all that initiative ends up getting used because it becomes an expectation from her while he gets nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:13 PM
2

So men should be expected to put in a lot of effort and women none?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:10 PM
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Using your logic attractive men shouldn't commit to women because "hey they don't have too." They have their pick of the litter right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:09 PM
1

Ahh that's right, women are out there approaching unattractive men they find interesting. 🤦 You can't make this sh*t up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:06 PM
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Of course not, you're not going to fight against traditional gender roles that benefit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:04 PM
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Are men cowards for not approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:01 PM
1

If men are the fish, you're acknowledging that we are the catch? Said no woman ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:14 PM
1

Then why do women say body count doesn't matter?You seem to acknowledge that women with high body counts hurts them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:59 AM
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Except for the women who say "you men are gonna give up that easy when they're rejected?" And the delusional women expect the rejected man to continue pursuing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:23 AM
1

"Men do not offer value?" So when a woman has a baby boy she should tell him from a young age that he offers no value to the world? Typical misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:44 PM
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Well that's good if it's that way in Western Europe, it sure isn't like that in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:43 PM
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Even if I was to accept your anecdote, women are still not going to pursue/approach men patriarchy or not. Almost every women you see online or in real life will tell you firmly "they are not approaching men."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:10 PM
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It is biology/evolution/women's choices though. If you completely took patriarchy out of the equation women would still seek after men who are handsome, have status, money, great bodies, great social skills, etc. For example if we completely got rid of the traditional gender role of men approaching women, do you think women would start approaching the average and below average guys? Of course not. Women are still going to go after men they perceive as high value, the men who are currently succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:33 PM
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That's literally what I was talking about to a commenter further up, and he just said that only applies to "some women" and to "pick better women." Im like 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:54 PM
1

And just stuff that pesky high libido down, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:52 PM
2

Except when a woman has 4 kids with 4 different baby daddies and men say "pick better men" they're called misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:47 PM
2

Except if modern men don't play that traditional role, women call them feminine. When it has nothing to do with being feminine. It has to do with equality, you know that thing women claim they care about. He doesn't approach and talk to her? He's feminine He doesn't ask her out on a date and pay for said date? He's feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:43 PM
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I would agree with everything you said if women were not trying to simultaneously hold onto traditional gender roles that benefit them. If a woman wants to be a feminist boss babe who believes in equality, great good for her. But if she is simultaneously expecting special treatment that came from traditional gender roles when men are not getting that, it makes her look like a hypocrite. If patriarchy is this oppressive thing that hurt both men and women then all aspects of it must be thrown out.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:32 PM
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But not Only fans?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:58 PM
1

Damn not even a doctor yet and already 900k+ in savings? Where do I get that kind of money for simply studying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:53 PM
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100%, except conditions are not coercion. Just because he agreed to your conditions and accepted/followed them doesn’t mean he "coerced" you when he decides he doesn't want to be in a relationship with you anymore. That's just part of life. You don't get to control people. This sounds like a matter of you picking shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:50 AM
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How are you being coerced into having sex outside of a relationship? You realize it's a two way street right? No one is forcing or coercing you to have sex with them. For example, let's say you make a guy wait to have sex with you because you want a commitment first, okay fair. But once upon him having sex with you he realizes he does not want to be in a relationship with you, that is not coercion or manipulation, he just doesn't want to be in a relationship with you anymore. Nobody owes you a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:16 AM
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How would I be manipulated into having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:21 AM
2

I think you have a pretty distorted view of sex. Think about what you're saying, you're basically saying you'll have sex with a guy if agrees beforehand that he somehow "wants something more" or "wants a relationship," etc? You're the one who is making sex out to be a transactional activity where you'll only f**k him if he agrees to commit to you first. Nobody forced or coerced you into having sex with him, you chose to do that on your own. Whatever little stories you tell yourself in your head …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:16 AM
1

Well said! 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:38 AM
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WTF 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:25 AM
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No just most
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:29 PM
1

So if I've chosen a good woman and can still recognize red pill truths I'm somehow delusional? You realize being red pill aware and picking good women are not mutually exclusive right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:15 PM
1

So men would be justified then in not wanting to get married because you yourself said women are not good at long term monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:48 PM
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So...blue pill advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:00 PM
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Well would you say it's a moral claim if a man says it's not worth it to get married if women are not good at long term monogamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:59 PM
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So how many women do they have to be rejected by for them to say "it's over?" At some point you have to realize they are wasting their time if they're not having any success. How many times should a 5'4" man try out for the NBA if he's not very good at basketball?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:52 PM
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Yep and they will never admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:19 AM
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How are they "too far gone" when they literally have logical reasons as to why they're not getting any dates? Whether they're too short, overweight, bald, unattractive, broke, socially awkward, etc. Those are all logical and valid reasons whether you call them red pill or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:17 AM
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And...the dating apps are a sausage fest. Approaching in person is frowned upon. So no we don't have the same amount of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:13 AM
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Seems like a good argument for why men should not get married. The other women here are literally saying women are not built for longterm monogamy. How is there not a better argument against marriage than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:02 AM
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Except we don't determine what's moral/immoral or "normal" based upon nature. That's called the naturalistic fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:53 AM
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Except Ive never heard of a long term poly relationship working out. People engage in those because they want the benefits of a relationship while still having the freedom to sleep around with who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:05 PM
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Do you think poly is a successful relationship model long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:46 PM
1

Never mind
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:04 PM
0

Most men are not interested in polyamorous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:58 PM
5

But you're poly, most men are not going to want to share a woman with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:55 PM
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No it's clearly something I haven't observed my entire life. Not for me nor for any other guy I know. So no I don't have to keep telling myself that. If women actually approached men, we would never see all these women complaining that they're single, childless, unmarried, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:40 AM
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This just goes to show that women clearly dont know how to approach a man without sounding like a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:31 AM
1

"Hello. I dont commit to women who clearly express they are not sexually attracted to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:28 AM
0

keep telling yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:27 AM
1

You realize a man could say the exact thing you just said?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:18 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:14 AM
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Why would a man commit to a woman who has made it clear she doesn't want to fuck him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:06 AM
0

😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:58 PM
1

So you're saying it would be in men's best interest to not waste our time approaching women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:44 PM
1

Yes, statistically speaking most men are not sexual predators. Simply look at the ratio of men in prison for sexually related crimes and compare it to every man who is not in prison. You will easily see the vast overwhelming majority of men are not sexual predators. Yes most women expect men to make more than them, where is the hypocricy? We are talking about two unrelated things. How did men create that problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:04 AM
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Yeah, just the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 03:25 PM
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Yes most women expect men to make at least what they make or more. The whole, "I ain't dating no brokies" trope is constantly reiterated by women. Why are women with partners who are "forcing" them to have sex? Isn't that what you women would tell men, to "find better women?" I'm denying reality? You literally believe more men are raping women (that is force) than women expecting men to be providers? That is laughable. Almost every women on planet earth expects men to make more than them and be …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:24 PM
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Ahh so it's the classic case of "all men are rapists and sexual assaulters?" You realize 99% of men are not harming, forcing, or coercing anybody. The vast majority of men on this subreddit can't even get a date from a woman. Not compromising? Men compromise all the time, we have too. We don't have the protection of the state like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:39 PM
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Where are all the countless videos, stories, accounts of men saying women paid for their dates? Oh thats right they don't exist. Men shouldn't expect sex in a relationship? This is just another classic case of "Im an exception." Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:32 PM
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Pleas explain how women "find" men when they literally don't do any pursuing, they don't set up dates, they don't pay for dates, they don't approach men, they say 80% of men are unattractive, they say they don't need a man, etc. WTF are you talking about? Men approaching you and you rejecting everyone of them until you find one you like does not constitute as you "finding men." I know I know, youre gonna tell me youre one of the exceptions who does all those things, right? 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:49 PM
2

You mean they found you? Women don't "find" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:33 PM
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Sure, except women will tell you the bar/standards are in hell, and when you go out on a date with them you soon realize their standards are not attainable by 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:11 PM
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So is that a valid argument when men tell women you need to pick better men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:48 PM
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If the woman is the main breadwinner, then you're acknowledging that women make more money than men do nowadays, correct? Why is the man still expected to pay for all these first dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:19 PM
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Except women who make good money still expect men to pay for everything. This is why men don't care about how much money a woman makes, because: 1)We don't have access to it. 2) You're not going to spend it on us anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:01 PM
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Except you are punishing modern men who grew up in a gynocentric feminized society for the way men treated women in the past. We are not responsible for this. We are not responsible for this in the same way modern men/women are not responsible for slavery that took place in the US in the 1800s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 02:45 PM
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Yes, the caste system, while officially abolished by the Indian Constitution in 1950, still exists in India and continues to influence various aspects of life, particularly in social interactions and marriage practices. Straight from Google
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:57 AM
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Your guy's left wing and right wing in India are far more different than the way it is in America. Plus, India has a caste system which is complete dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:50 AM
1

Oh I know what "god fearing" means I just disagree with it in the context of the way the Biblical god is portrayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:34 AM
1

Sure, but the god of the Bible is so insecure that he will send you to an eternity of hellfire if you don't love him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:29 AM
1

I would never expect my daughter to fear me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:03 AM
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I'm so glad I don't have to do the mental gymnastics of having to simultaneously love and fear a god.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:29 PM
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Where is here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:18 PM
2

But you just said you expect a man to approach you? Should he also not expect certain things of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 03:16 PM
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So what attributes does your man expect you to have assuming you are partnered up?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:52 PM
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Cool, so were done with the gender wage gap myth then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:27 AM
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You're missing the point. There are plenty of cars that she wants and are both good cars, but are still sitting on the lot for almost two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:34 PM
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Walk/catch public transport is obfuscating from the analogy. We're talking about cars, not different means of transportation. You're proving my point by demonstrating that despite there being plenty of great cars available you can never be pleased. If you check out/test drive multiple cars from different lots/manufacturers and hate them all despite everyone saying they are pleasantly satisfied with said car, then it's probably not the car, it's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:22 PM
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So if a person wants a new car and says "there's no good cars" available despite there being an abundance of great cars, is that person being unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:55 PM
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And then complaining there are no good men. It's like walking onto a car dealership lot with all these brand new cars and saying, there are no good cars here. At some point either your idea of what a good car is, is terribly flawed or you're purposely being unrealistic and unreasonable with your standards. You can't expect men to be something they're not just like you can't expect a car to be something more than a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:49 PM
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So in other words, you want men to feel empathy for you in regards to not wanting to ask men out "due to the results" you got. While when men discuss their feelings in regards to rejection, public humiliation, being called a creep, etc. you couldn't give two shits. That is what this ultimately boils down too. At the end of the day you want access to traditional gender roles when it benefits you or is convenient for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:19 PM
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No response?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:04 PM
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I'm quite happy actually! You're just projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:49 AM
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Approximately 63% of men under 30 in the U.S. are single, according to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey. 70%? Where did you get that number?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:30 PM
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Wow talk about being braindead. Please give me the ratio of men getting dates vs women? I think it's fair to say women are getting asked out more and therefore more dates than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:21 PM
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I don't find anything he said to be incorrect or unrealistic. You just seem miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:14 PM
4

Then what was the result you didn't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:05 PM
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Jesus this comes off as very selfish and entitled. Imagine if a man wrote what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:43 PM
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"I tried to ask men out, I didn’t like the result." What was the result? If it was rejection, welcome to a man's world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:42 PM
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"The man has to be a natural leader that they want to follow, not a man who rocks up and goes "I am the head of the household" or "I am the captain of the ship" So then you agree with red pill in that men need to become the best version of themselves physically, emotionally, financially, etc. so women will "want" to follow his lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:20 AM
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But he can commit all those things to you without being married. Marriage doesn't change any of those things. You just want the protection of the state if the marriage goes south while he gets no protection whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:52 PM
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This is what all women say until the divorce proceedings happen. The woman you marry is not the same woman you divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:49 PM
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What do you mean won't work? Why do gay men have no problem staying together? Its almost like you acknowledge the existence of traditional gender roles despite probably being opposed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:27 PM
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I'm so straight that I treat same sex couples the same way I treat everyone else without having to assign "special gender dynamics" to them. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:23 PM
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Why not lesser than you? Shouldn't you just "woman up?" Marriage is a risk after all (your words.) If you're looking to minimize risk then you're just proving the men's point on here that marriage is not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:40 AM
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Except gray divorces (divorces over the age of 50) have doubled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:25 AM
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There is a reason why women are considered "complex". its because they have access to BOTH parts of themselves and can exhibit both spectrums of traits masculine and feminine." Because women in the west are praised and rewarded for being masculine. Men are looked down upon, mocked, criticized, looked over by woman, etc. for embracing femininity. Sorry it's not the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:20 AM
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What the hell does their sexual orientation have to do with anything? "Queer marriage dynamics?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:02 AM
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Except men have no way of differentiating the women who just want to "fuck" and the woman who want to date. And once again you're proving my point, you're fucking because you "think" you're in a relationship. Unless he has explicitly said he wants to be exclusive with you he is under no obligation to provide you a relationship. Youre literally equating sex with relationship. Sex = relationship. That is the logic you're using
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:17 PM
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Once again, this doesn't mean you are being used. You literally proved my point that you think having sex with a man obligates him to a relationship with you. Through your own words you're literally making sex out to be a transactional thing. He gets sex you get a relationship. Sorry, that's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:14 PM
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How are you being "used" if you agreed to have consensual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:00 PM
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This completely misses the point of what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:47 PM
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Noone is entitled to a relationship either. Too many women feel they get "used" by having sex with a guy they consensually agreed to have sex with and think that obligates him to a relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:28 AM
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If that was the case why would the women in the original comment stick around for years waiting for a man to marry her? If it was a worse deal for women they would not stick around hoping that he proposes to her. If it was a worse deal for women, why are they the ones pressuring men into getting married? That is what my wife did to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:37 PM
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How did I prove your point? I'm asking for clarification? I don't know what it is you're asking? I thought women were supposed to be excellent communicators?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:36 PM
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I don't have to read posts on that sub, women talk about that subject on this sub all the time. What who wants? And what who says?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:27 PM
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Sure, but your comment itself literally says they don't want to discuss marriage. They're literally saying they don't want to get married, at that point it's up to the woman to decide if she wants to stick around or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:19 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with it. First off, she has every opportunity to leave, no one is forcing her to stay in a relationship with him. Second off, that man is losing all leverage in that relationship once he puts that ring on her finger. But go ahead tell me how marriage is such a great deal for men. 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:01 PM
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So then you're cool with dudes spending money on Onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:45 PM
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So you're saying women (generally speaking) aren't going to care about your peronality/emotional vulnerabilities if you don't first pass the looks threshold? If so, why do guys who are *ssholes, douchebages, who are attractive have no problem getting women? These women don't seem to care about his personality/emotional side as long as he is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:27 PM
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So I take it you don't subscribe to the Red pill idea of men needing to be more stoic and all?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:32 PM
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I don't know, I guess I've never heard a story of a man being more emotionally vulnerable leading to more sex or to his wife treating him better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:03 PM
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That's an interesting take, (I have a young daughter btw) and would say I agree with a lot of the red pill ideas. Unfortunately I have read countless stories and comments from men who have "opened" up to their wives/girlfriends and been emotionally vulnerable and every single one of them has said it backfired on them horribly, eventually leading to divorce. I get the whole being sensitive/caring thing but it's hard to distinguish the difference between what women say "they want" vs what they act…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:42 PM
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Well Trump himself literally said, it was great what Elon did with the voting machines in Pennsylvania. I can literally pull up the actual quote if you need me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:05 AM
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That's an interesting take on your son with you being red pilled. Most red pillers would steer away from the sensitive and caring traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:01 AM
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Then why do so many women say they value being single better? Why do so many women say they don't need a man anymore for anything? Why do women say that he needs to enhance her life in some way? It doesn't really seem like women like men more than men like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:33 AM
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You realize it's the other way around? If a woman is happier being on her own a man has to add quite a bit to her life to be considered. That makes the bar quite high, not low.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:00 PM
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I'm so glad I have never used the term "woke" to describe somebody. Every time I hear that word, I think "that guy is r*tarded."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:46 PM
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So then why did my wife and almost every other married guy I know get pressured to get married by the woman they are/were with? If marriage is such a shitty deal for women, then why are they the ones almost exclusively pressuring the guy to put a ring on her finger?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:16 AM
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Except he struck up the conversation first. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:38 PM
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Oh so in a relationship the man has to care more and the woman has to care less? That's some good mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:37 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 Yeah okay. I'll believe that when I actually see a woman change a flat tire in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:35 PM
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Lay it out for me. Please explain how you have pursued a man before.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:42 PM
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I work in an industry that involves a lot of manual labor. Guess how many women work in the environment that I work in? ZERO Btw I've never seen a woman successfully change a flat tire my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:06 AM
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Funny how we never observe that actually happening in society. Are you gonna fight off a 250 lb male home invader too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:53 AM
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How am I wrong? You don't pursue men so by definition you ultimately have to settle for whatever guy comes your way. There is no other way around this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:44 AM
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That's hilarious 😂 considering men date down and women date up. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:07 AM
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Ahh so it's okay for the bottom 80% of men to be publicly humiliated when approaching women and getting rejected, but not women? It's just a humiliation ritual for the man and an ego boost for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:44 AM
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Said no women ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:40 AM
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So in a relationship the man should care less in order to win?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:20 AM
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"Women want to choose men who feel strongly about them. This will never happen unless the man feels like he picked the one" Until she uses this as leverage to get him to simp for her and put her on a pedestal ultimately controlling the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:54 PM
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Until she's picked and then tries to change the dynamic of the relationship by leading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:50 PM
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Yes you as a woman have to ultimately settle for whatever comes your way because you'll never actually take the initiative to pursue the man you actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:47 PM
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It's easy to say that when you've probably NEVER asked a man out or changed a tire for a man. But hey go on with your pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:45 PM
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So women should not approach men because it's convenient for them not too? Should men stop helping women with changing a flat tire because hey it's convenient for them not too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:35 PM
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So it wouldn't bother you if you found out the guy you were dating had slept with 300 different women? You think you're the one who he's magically going to commit to?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:00 AM
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Wrong. Because a person who has a high body count has clearly demonstrated they don't value relationships and as such are not worth committing too. You can't have a high body and a history of long term committed relationships, that's a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:48 AM
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Where's that line at 😂? Some women will say they are not promiscuous but have "had some sex" but have a body count of 75. Your idea of "has had some sex" is another person's idea of promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:30 AM
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But why does it matter if they're doing it because they're empty, bored, depressed because no women will give them a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:21 AM
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So you would commit to a woman who has clearly demonstrated through her behavior that she doesn't value relationships? But rather enjoys being the village bicycle?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:07 AM
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Where are all these women at saying they want a man who is a virgin? I've never heard a woman say they prefer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:04 AM
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Well said 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:02 AM
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Once again, never said that. Who's saying men are following these directives? I'm pointing out the terrible stuff women say to men who expect men to be okay with dating them. Daddy issues much?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:38 AM
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What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:35 AM
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You literally contradicted yourself by saying "it's easy to dismiss the idea that women want to mate with wealthy men" while simultaneously in your next paragraph talk about how many women prefer someone who is financially stable, good credit, ample money in savings, inheritances, investments, etc. Jesus Christ you can't make this stuff up 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:31 AM
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Ahh so women have never said to a man who isn't interested in any of these types of women that he is "insecure" or "intimidated" or that he just needs to "accept her as she is?" How many times have we heard from women that men need to be okay with her being an OF content creator, or be okay with her being a single mom, or be okay with her simultaneously dating 5 other dudes? Men hear this shit all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:25 AM
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Who said anything about coercion? Why do you women have to twist everything men say? I'm simply stating if a woman says she just wants to be "friends" just move on. There's no point in being in the friendzone hoping that she'll magically give you a chance at some point. Just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:20 AM
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So in the same way that you claim that men ran off to a fringe cult to complain, men are learning who the morally depraved women are and to avoid them. OF content creators, single moms, pick mes, gold diggers, liars, friend zoners, verbally abusive, promiscuous, etc. All the red pill does is point out these types of women and these bad traits in women and how to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:17 AM
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So to tell a man to focus on bettering himself (gym, money, status, appearance, hygiene, etc), to learn to set boundaries, to not settle for the friend zone, to not be manipulated by women's emotions, etc. is hatred of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:11 AM
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There's many aspects to it, I'll list just a few things. Would you not agree that since women can only carry a baby once a year (generally speaking) that they are hardwired to find the best mate possible? That's part of hypergamy. Women by and large don't ask men out or pursue men and expect men to do this. There are many reasons for this but it's female nature nonetheless. Women generally don't want to date broke men (by their own admission) that's female nature. Do you want more? I know I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:58 PM
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Once again no evidence provided by you of anything I said as being hateful. WHERE IS THE HATEFUL PART? You're just making a bunch of claims and hope no one calls you out on it. I have no problem arguing for my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:45 PM
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Where is the seething and plotting? LOL, I don't think women are consciously spending their time seething and plotting on men, that's just their nature. They're not doing it consciously it's just who they are. In the same way you think men's preferences are shallow and unrealistic women's are just as bad if not worse. You just want men to think your preferences aren't unrealistic, shallow and not based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:26 PM
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What about being red pill makes men hateful? This sounds like projection. Men understanding women's nature isn't all sugar and spice and everything nice and then react accordingly. That's not hate that's accepting reality muscle mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:05 PM
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You don't have to think about it. Women's behavior is what has red pilled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:55 PM
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Sure, he is a symptom of a bigger problem but he is still a terrible human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:20 PM
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I agree. I despise the sh*t stain that is Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:17 PM
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Sure Democrats didn't do much for white men, but what have Republicans done for white men? I am a white man btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:06 PM
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What about all the federal workers who fired unconstitutionally? If you need me to explain I will, but I hope you're not that retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:00 PM
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You realize there is a word for someone who does not experience empathy right? Sociopath or psychopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:28 PM
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Why does a man being empathetic turn you off? So if a man recognizes that other people can suffer as he suffers, that's a turn off? If a man has the ability to put himself in "someone else's shoes" that is a turnoff? In other words a man should only care about issues that directly affect him? I guess I shouldn't have empathy for my wife or daughter because they are not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:30 PM
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How well do you two get along if she's leftist and you're red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:24 PM
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Why are you assuming relationships are the only things that can provide stimulation? I'm not saying people just seek out relationships for validation, but you're implying that people are "obligated" to give you external stimulation. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:21 PM
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But I thought men were the ones more violent than a bear in the woods?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:33 PM
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So if a man is in a relationship where he loves his girl and she loves him, he should be okay with her doing whatever she wants regardless of what he thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:54 PM
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Cool, so men should dump women who exhibit these behaviors then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:40 PM
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So men should be okay with their girlfriends/wives going out to the bars and getting drunk, flirting with other dudes and doing god knows whatever else?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:27 PM
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But those traits you're describing that are commonly associated with a specific gender, you would agree with me that "most" people want their partner to have to those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:24 PM
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The problem I have is what women are defining as toxic. For example, a man might say he's not cool with his woman going out to the bars with her girlfriends and getting drunk, flirting with other dudes, getting free drinks, attention/validation from other guys and the man finds that disrespectful. The woman then says, "you're trying to control me" that's "toxic masculinity." When in reality it's just a respect issue towards your partner. To me women will use the term toxic masculinity for anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:37 PM
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See that seems like wanting to have it both ways. You say you're opposed to gender roles, but at the same time say there are certain roles or traits that men or women should adhere to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:46 PM
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So you're pro gender roles then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:10 PM
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Why don't you do yourself a favor and crack open a dictionary. Violence happens because people say stupid shit like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 10:50 AM
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I agree with everything you've said, but I see videos all the time of women saying "down with gender roles" but then still expect men to adhere to specific roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:36 AM
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So you're in favor of throwing out all gender roles as well? If so, what does "positive masculinity" even mean then if there are no gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:05 AM
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I guess one of the problems I see with this toxic masculinity/femininity conundrum is it then implies that there is "good masculinity" or "good femininity." Then you have people gatekeeping or deciding what THEY think is positive masculinity or femininity which becomes a problem in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:55 AM
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My reading comprehension is just fine. What are "true" beliefs around masculinity then if you believe there are false ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:41 AM
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I understand the point you're making and I also have a daughter that is almost a teenager. However I don't know if I would describe those behaviors or attitudes as toxic femininity. I'm in my 40s so I'm old enough to know that no one was using these terms toxic femininity/masculinity when I was growing up. Maybe it's just easier for me to label these types of behaviors and attitudes as toxic rather than tying them to a specific gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:39 AM
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Please list examples then of toxic femininity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:25 AM
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No because you're trying to tie specific traits and behaviors to men or "masculinity" when those behaviors are not gender specific. Those behaviors can be had by anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:23 AM
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Then that's not masculinity and that's not how the term is being used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:18 AM
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Yes in a very limited context describing violent prisoners in the prisoners system. The term then got co opted and used in mainstream society where it was misused.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:16 AM
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If I'm not mistaken I believe there is a study that says women commit more child abuse as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:14 AM
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Violence is masculine? What?😂😂😂 Show me definition in the dictionary that specifically states that Violence has anything to do with gender. Good god this is getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:10 AM
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What are examples of toxic femininity then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:07 AM
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Let's hear the examples of toxic femininity then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:05 AM
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What did he make up?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:04 AM
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Exactly. That's what I've been trying to explain to some of these dipsh*ts. Toxic behaviors and attitudes are not gender specific. It's like saying, what are examples of "toxic femininity" that only applies to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:03 AM
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Except positive masculinity isn't a thing either. These positive traits you believe in can be possessed by anybody correct? Therefore they have nothing to do with masculinity. It's just called being a good human.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:01 AM
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Define what masculinity is then. Then make the connection between your definition and what you're calling "toxic." If you're gonna say there are "positive" forms of masculinity because you believe there are "toxic" ones, what are these positive ones? Whatever these positive forms are, are just called "being a good human being." It has nothing to do with masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:58 AM
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But their abuse of women has nothing to do with masculinity. If a man molests a little child does that have anything to do with masculinity? No. That guy is is just a monster and scum of the earth. You have to tie abusing a woman specifically to masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:55 AM
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So then what is toxic femininity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:51 AM
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That's because your friend can get away with it. If he was an average Joe schmo working at a dead end job, unathletic, unattractive, not rich, his views would only get him so far with women. You do realize professional athletes literally have women throw themselves at them right? Do you really think those women give a shit about what those guy's believe? Obviously when your an ex NFL player you can pretty much say and do whatever you want and get away with it. This is not new or miraculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:18 AM
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Nevermind
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:37 PM
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So you would date a woman who's views are incompatible with yours? What would you even talk about if you have completely different worldviews?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:34 PM
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So...what if she is an educated working woman who is a liberal. You said "not views."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:28 PM
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Sure, there are dudes who are just looking for sex. But if a woman consents to sex with a man that's it, sex. If she is expecting more from him than just sex, then she needs to make that clear or leave him. No one is forcing her to be in a "situationship" with a man just using her for sex. But it seems like your implying that just because she has sex with him, he needs to do xyz for her. That is transactional. If you're using sex as a leveraging tool to get what you want then you're just as bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:49 PM
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That's what you don't understand, men don't have to have a lot of gold for a woman to suck him dry. I've heard countless stories from women themselves say they still expect men to pay for the vast majority of things even if he makes less money than her. It's not like a woman goes "oh he doesn't make much money, I won't exploit him." Women will still try this on broke dudes or constantly make it a point of argumentation that he just "doesn't make enough money."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:47 PM
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Sure, and if a woman expects a man to be her personal ATM, you're just using and taking advantage of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:34 PM
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If you want balanced well rounded women, what "left wing" or "liberal" values is she allowed to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:16 PM
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So...sex isn't a normal part of a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:41 PM
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Yes, and those who spend all day praising him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:23 PM
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So you're saying people should simultaneously not hate him, but also should not worship him, view him as the son of God, the savior, the best president of all time, buy all his useless merchandise, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:43 PM
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What spectrum are people on who spend their entire time wearing Trump clothing, wearing MAGA hats, flying FJB flags, constantly commenting "let's go Brandon?" Nah those people are completely normal right? They're not completely fucked in the head or in a cult or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:32 PM
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You've set up a scenario here where people who hate Trump can only be "wokies," "progressives," "liberals," "democrats," etc. There are plenty of reasons to hate Trump that are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:13 PM
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"Are they getting treated like 10s? Do they have the ability to sleep with 8-10 women without paying them?" No of course not. You're just proving my point that women don't have to do shit in the "market," women have it far easier in the "market" whereas men have to come to the table with zero flaws. Nope, not fat at all. I'm just proving a point. Because even a good looking man who is in shape will still struggle in the market whereas women can look like shit, be overweight and still have no pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:46 PM
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So if morbidly obese men think they're 10s does that mean they're 10s? This is the problem, the market is artificially inflated due to women like the ones you described. Women if they're fat, "hey you're a 10, you go girl." If you're a man who is overweight, you're just a far disgusting slob who deserves to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:01 PM
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Yeah because that's all men can get. Those "fat chicks" you're referring to think they're 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:48 PM
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I can do both as well I just don't prefer being extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:35 PM
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I agree with your second statement completely as I also don't believe in free will. Your first statement though implies that you're not complete on your own. It implies that in order to feel secure with yourself you need external validation. Sure external validation and attention can be nice but if you're living your life under the expectation that you will always receive it you're gonna be sadly disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:07 AM
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I as a man don't need constant validation and attention from other people to feel secure with myself. So many extroverted people struggle with this and could not fathom sitting by themselves for hrs doing a hobby they like. My brother is a perfect example of this, he is way more extroverted and social than me but has next to no hobbies that he does on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:12 AM
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Which completely avoids answering my question. What is the woman doing to "signal" that she's interested in him if him paying is a signal to her that he's interested in her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:12 PM
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Funny you say that because another woman on here just told me that women don't ask men out because that makes them butch and men are attracted to feminine women. Seems like a contradiction between what your claiming and what this other woman said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:30 PM
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A woman asking a man out makes her butch? I think you would have many women disagree with you on that one. So because you're a woman men are expected to treat you a specific way? What way are you expected to treat a man then if it's HIS job to be asking women out. This should be good....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:25 PM
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With online dating women aren't doing any initiating. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:03 PM
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That's womansplaining for ya. If the man likes the woman more than he's desparate right? Then he's a simp right? Then he has no other options right? Why can't you women just do the things you expect men to do? I thought we were equal right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:59 PM
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They expect men to be direct and assertive while they don't have too. That's crazy female nature for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:56 PM
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Clearly you have not seen the thousands of videos of women balling their eyes out due to being single, men not asking them out, men not approach them, they're childless and don't want to be, no one will marry them, etc. Dudes don't make videos of themselves crying because they're single because no one gives a shit especially women. Women are the ones making Tiktok their personal diary for the whole world to see. I don't think passport bros is as prominent as you think but if dudes are moving to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:50 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 That tells me everything I need to know about you. Just admit you're a misandrist. If your claims are true why do women constantly complain about being single, childless, and no one wanting to marry them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:32 PM
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But none of those are signals towards him. Those are just traits she is describing about herself. A man paying for dates is signaling that he is doing something for HER. A woman being highly intelligent, confident, self aware, emotionally mature, optimistic, ambitious, curious, sex positive, self reflective, has nothing to do with signaling that she'll do anything for him. She could have all those traits and ghost him after the date is over. She could have all those traits and want nothing more …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:23 PM
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😂😂😂 Yeah they do. Oh stop with the domestic labor crap. Every married man I know tells me all the shit they do around the house and more. Stop acting like men are nothing more than lazy deadbeats. Women will use all sorts of excuses to justify getting divorced. With women initiating 80% of divorces you mean to tell me they ALL had valid reasons? I highly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:17 PM
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Well then you haven't looked at modern women. Modern women will pull the traditional gender roles card all the time when it benefits them and then pull the modern feminist and equality card when it benefits them. They do this shit all the time. To deny this is to deny reality. I don't think you're being honest in describing modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:14 PM
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Then you're putting too much value on the idea of marriage in the first place. I know plenty of men who are divorced and I wouldn't call them or their marriages failures. It just didn't work out anymore due to a whole plethora of different reasons. If someone stops running a business for personal, health, reasons it doesn't mean their business was a failure. They just may not be interested in running that kind of business anymore even if it was successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:30 AM
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I wouldn't agree with calling it a failure. When you and your first or second girlfriend broke up was that a failure? Or you two just weren't compatible with each other? Or one of you changed or grew apart, etc. That's not failure that's simply being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:24 AM
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How are these men time wasters if they tell the woman up front they don't want to get married and she chooses to stick around? She's free to leave whenever she wants, no one is forcing her to be with him. Women need to stop acting like the men are "dog walking" them when the women can leave whenever they want. Imagine if roles were reversed and men were constantly complaining about woman hoping that they would do something "magical" for them down the road? You women would have nothing to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:14 AM
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Exactly, especially when that sample size of behavior drastically changes after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:06 AM
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"Free samples?" Are you saying he can't be committed to you and not be married? If he's in a relationship with you he's committed. If he wasn't why would you be with him? Commitment should already be present before a marriage which demonstrates that marriage isn't necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:05 AM
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Oh my god 🤦 you don't think plenty of married dudes have done that for her to say "I'm bored" or "I'm just not happy anymore" or "you just don't excite me anymore." Not every divorce is the result of the man just not pulling his weight anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:59 AM
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I always find it ironic when women talk about men getting "wife privileges" without making her his wife. Like please, you're clearly getting "husband privileges" without being married otherwise you would have left his ass. If you're sticking around hoping he'll put a ring on your finger then he's already demonstrated he's "husband material" without being married. Women always act like this is so one sided when they are getting "husband privileges" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:25 AM
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Why is it sad though? My sister is this exact type of woman who complains that she might never get to be married, start a family, etc. Meanwhile she treats guys like shit, many of whom were really great guys that I got along with really well and went on to get married and start families of their own. Only after dumping them did she want them back. I don't feel sorry for her, she is sabotaging her own relationships. Nor do I feel sorry for any of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:42 AM
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Let's just start over. Do you acknowledge there are women who act like feminists whether they say they are or not, while simultaneously still expect traditional gender roles from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:37 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:29 AM
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I think you may be dishonest. They had a set of conditions to feel comfortable having the children they wanted, and THEY BLEW THEM. It was not the man's fault. See, what you won't hear from those types of women is all the good men they rejected, all the men they used as personal ATMs, all the men they ghosted, all the men they put in the friend zone who would have been good fathers, etc. Where are all the dudes making these types of videos despite being the gender who is severely disadvantaged i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:27 AM
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A woman will say she believes in equality, equal treatment, men and women are equal, etc. but not call herself a feminist. Meanwhile she still expects the man to pay/provide everything for her or expect him to make more money than her. This shouldn't matter if she believes in equality. She's literally demonstrating that she's hypergamous and wants traditional gender roles but also wants modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:11 AM
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Yeah modern women are takers not givers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:06 AM
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"It could signal some things - someone who is financially stable and can afford it, is generous and not resentful, and dates seriously enough to make a financial commitment, etc, it can be a solid indicator of whether they would look out for you long-term. But again, depends on circumstance, less important when you're young and things are even." If it can signal some things that you mentioned, what does a woman do then to signal green flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:03 AM
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"Which is of course correct, as the birth rate is absolutely plummeting, therefore women have in fact decided it's too great a risk without enough mediating factors, lol." Sure, but then why do we see all these videos online of women crying because they are childless in their 30s and can't find a man to marry them? Are you saying they're just lying and full of sh*t? If so, why should men take anything they have to say seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:59 AM
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No I'm saying women will not "identify" as feminist but still "act" like a feminist while simultaneously wanting access to traditional gender roles when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:54 AM
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Women can not call themselves feminists while still practicing all the tenets of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:48 AM
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But women want men to pay for everything, that's what a father does. I know because I am a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:45 AM
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Bear woman: I believe in equality and equal treatment but the men must pay for everything when they date me. Enjoy being a walking contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:44 AM
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You mean you don't value the opinions of men who call out your hypocritical bullsh*t?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:38 AM
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Why so much snark? Oh and stop complaining. Yes you are a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:50 PM
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I gotcha, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:41 PM
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"Women don’t need us the way we need them, so they set the terms, and we either play along or get left behind." So you're saying the woman should lead the relationship then and the man should be in her frame? If women are the only ones setting the terms, I would rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:08 PM
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Typical woman failing to take accountability for her dumb comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:51 PM
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Bullshit. More dishonesty from cave women. Women post thirst traps and pictures of themselves all the time in order to garner attention and validation from men. Nice try cave animal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:43 PM
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Oh I already did. Pregnancy is potentially a consequence of having sex, no shit. I literally told him becoming pregnant is not the same thing as remaining pregnant. He tried to equate a 5 year old child with a zygote, not the same thing. That's literally an equivocation fallacy and a violation of the law of non contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:09 PM
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I agree, I'm just pointing out her hypocrisy that many women have no problem sleeping with the guy after the first date while she says most women have to "build a connection first."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:03 PM
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You need to put all that effort in just to "see" him? Would he not find you attractive without all the makeup, hair, waxing, expensive clothes, manicure, etc? If not, don't you think you're giving him a false impression of what you actually look like? Sounds like a self imposed problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:59 AM
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What is the point? You're putting all this effort into your personal appearance and are not going to have sex with him. Why are you wasting your time and energy doing all that stuff if it's just a free meal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:50 AM
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All the sexy pics on their Instagram profiles those are just for other women huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:15 AM
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Don't care anymore. You're not worth engaging with. I don't converse with dishonest interlocutors.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:05 AM
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Ahh more Rich Cooper nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:55 AM
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"Education that you need" "Got your emotions up, did I?" But I am being snarky? Hey dipshit do you know what a hypocrite is? There is no educational content of anything you posted and you have made us all dumber as a result. And yes, you are a douchebag and a dipshit. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:53 AM
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"WTF—where did you learn to debate?" "So - since you are having difficulty with the basics, I will enlighten you with what you do not deserve:" "You just conflated a boundary with an ultimatum. Now, don't you feel silly, Mr. Strawman? It's OK. I didn't know either." "I understand being startled. Straw doesn't taste good" "Baby snark?" Puzzlehead isn't being snarky at all. He's always a hypocritical asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:38 AM
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You do realize you could literally do all of those things as a man and a woman would still think you're complaining right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:32 AM
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Aww you poor little baby because I called out your "holding a stick behind your back" line you respond with "that's just a strawman fallacy." Sounds like your umm... complaining. Quite frankly you didn't listen to a damn word I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:27 AM
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Oh, so stating boundaries is complaining but saying I'll abuse you if you don't get inline is good? WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:51 AM
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Yeah you're completely refusing to answer the question but instead bragging about how much you "shatter" liberal men and how "frail" they are and how you make them "cry." I've yet to hear any actual agument or "shattering." 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:58 AM
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Cool so when can I start taking your organs, blood, tissue, DNA? After all your bodily autonomy doesn't matter now does it? Your organs belong to me. My survival is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:39 AM
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No the refugees and immigrants?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:32 AM
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How can a man who is Atheist, pro choice, pro lgbtq, feminist, pro education vote for Trump? That is literally the opposite of everything Trump stands for. I never understood people who vote for somebody who is the antithesis of all your core values/morals/beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:26 AM
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Ahh you're pro sending them to Quantanamo Bay?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:22 AM
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Can I use your body for my survival and sustenance?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:20 AM
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Murder? That's your definition of abortion. Abortion is a termination of a pregnancy. Why should anyone accept your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:15 AM
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Jesus Christ you conservatives are so tone deaf. Being liberal means "having no restrictions in life?" WTF. No wonder you're a conservative. Conservatives: open to having no restrictions in life and then praying to Jesus for forgiveness for your shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:10 AM
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Using your logic then the child shouldn't be allowed to use the mother’s body either. You're essentially advocating for special rights not equal rights. Oh and it's not a child. Glad I could clear that up for you Matt Gaetz.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:07 AM
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None of the ones governing this damn country or passing laws. They're all Bible thumping pro life Jesus f*ck tards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:04 AM
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Except women will view "expressing your preferences" and stating your boundaries as complaining. When we live in a world now where women believe they should be able to do whatever they want in a relationship regardless of what her boyfriend thinks, simply stating preferences or boundaries will seem like complaining to her. As a man you can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:48 AM
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Why would you do all that stuff to go out on a date with a man if he shouldn't expect sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:48 AM
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Exactly. I bet women would be more likely to remarry after divorce if they were able too. Women when they get older have to struggle to find a man on top of their already ridiculous standards and high expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:56 AM
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Spot on. Women will never understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:51 AM
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If it is the other way around then why aren't women selecting broke, obese, unstable, unhealthy lovers? Oh that's right they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:27 AM
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So then all the women engaging in hookups are just full of shit then? They clearly would disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:05 AM
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Well that's complete bullshit when we see good looking dudes who do the bare minimum (if that) and have no problem attracting women. Meanwhile the nice guy who "makes her feel good" and does nice things for her gets nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:58 PM
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""Although, given the statistics on how good marriage is for men’s health, happiness, and net worth, I think that’s a foolish decision." That's another logical mistake you women make. Women purposely pick the men who are already healthy (not drug addicts, not obese, etc) happy on their own, and are already financially stable (not broke) and then mistakenly say it's because of "marriage.'' That's not how it works. Women are picking men who are already successful. Or as the red pillers like to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:13 PM
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Except if men were initiating 80% of divorces women probably wouldn't be interested in getting married. You'll never look at it from the perspective of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:53 PM
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So women only leave marriage because men are addicts, adulterers, abusers, abandoners, or deadbeats. But women never leave simply because they "aren't happy" or because he doesn't "excite me anymore" or because she found some other guy more interesting. Women initiate divorces all the time even when the man is doing everything right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:06 PM
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"All the women I know who have initiated divorces married men who were addicts, adulterers, abusers, abandoners, or deadbeats." Women initiate 80% of divorces so according to you the man was at fault 80% of the time then? Sorry not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:58 PM
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I was trying to explain this to a woman on here the other day and she just couldn't get it. She kept going on and on about women being used for sex. I was like, nobody forced you to have sex, you could leave anytime you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 06:02 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:52 PM
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You still don't get it? Why does he have to "officially" say they are in a relationship? She can literally ask him "where is this going" and if he isn't interested in a relationship she can leave. No one is forcing her to have sex with him or stick around. You're almost admitting that women in this instance are using sex transactionally to get the guy to commit to her. Sorry that's not how it works. She has every right to leave at any time. If she wants a relationship she can ask for one, why is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:30 PM
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"Do you think having sex with a guy automatically grants you a relationship?" What? You literally said in your comment above that women are convincing themselves that they are getting a relationship. So why the "what" response?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:31 AM
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"but these guys are also using them for sex," Once again how are these guys "using" them for sex? If the sex is consensual between both parties that's just called wait for it........sex. Women can convince themselves of whatever they want, doesn't mean they are getting "used.'" Just like you would say a man isn't getting used by paying for a meal for his date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:29 AM
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But other women on here will tell you that women get "used sexually." Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:01 AM
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"They have it easier getting used sexually, but unless they have the skills to meet a winning guy, that's as far as it goes. Forget about a quality relationshp" How do they get "used sexually?" Do they not have autonomy over their bodies and decide who they wish to have sex with? Do you think having sex with a guy automatically grants you a relationship? Stop complaining. If women aren't expected to have sex with a guy after he takes her out on a date and pays for everything, a man isn't expecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:55 AM
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Jeffrey Epstein was Donald Trump's best friend. Don't forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:45 PM
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But these women say they don't believe in gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:24 AM
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But men are still expected to approach strangers. We don't have the luxury of just "magically" joining your social group. It doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:19 AM
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True however women have never been so spoiled for options as they are now so the ball is in their court. When we know through data women are rejecting 80% of men it's up to them to make shit happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:16 AM
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This entails women can handle rejection and are secure with themselves when they get rejected but they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:13 AM
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Sure, but that doesn't mean men and women are the same and therefore will experience different repercussions for having hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 05:51 PM
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Jesus Christ what was that electronic dog 💩 music video
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:14 PM
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Let me rephrase this a different way. Should people be allowed to get a divorce? I take it your religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:33 AM
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What are you saying? You're saying if someone becomes a complete piece of sh*t in the marriage the other person should be forced to stay with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:39 PM
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Exactly, which is why I'm not a proponent of marriage. There's no point to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:03 PM
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Forcing someone to stay with you is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:34 PM
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Yeah the dude above shouldn't have made it up either. You believe in toxic masculinity right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:32 PM
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Is hyperfeminine a term like toxic masculinity? Something you made up?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:14 PM
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Please explain how a woman paying for a date makes her more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:00 PM
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That has nothing to do with femininity. That has has to do with equality which you feminists claim you believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:57 PM
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Have you had hormonal replacement therapy? If not, then you can't say it magically fixes a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:56 AM
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You should read some of the posts on r/deadbedrooms where husband's wives clearly need hormonal replacement therapy and they utterly refuse to get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:55 AM
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Nope don't need to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:53 AM
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There's blue pills for that. What's her solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:17 AM
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If a woman does everything right in a relationship and the man withholds sex from her who is to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:12 AM
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I love how you think communication magically solves all problems. I never advocated for cheating btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:44 AM
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You've set up a scenario where you can't be wrong. A man and woman could be in a healthy relationship where every other aspect of the relationship is perfectly fine and she just decides she doesn't want to have sex anymore. Now that could be because of a multitude of different things but not necessarily because the relationship "isn't healthy." What if perhaps she goes through menopause and no longer has a sex drive, he's just supposed to accept that? Just stay married?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:42 AM
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Yes marriage does imply monogamy. It also implies that you're only going to be having sex with one person for the rest of your life, and if that person doesn't uphold their end of the deal, how are they not to blame? Monogamy doesn't mean anything if both partners are not enthusiastic about having sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:13 PM
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Sure, so withholding sex from your partner isn't a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:09 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:41 PM
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Literally all the data gleamed from dating apps says otherwise. Women are far more selective than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:40 PM
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You seriously telling me that men are more pickier than women when it comes to dating? 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:26 PM
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Who came up with those criteria on the male delusion calculator? None of those are criteria that I look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:25 PM
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Men don't have a delusional calculator because men have much lower standards, are not as picky, are willing to date down, etc. Women on the other hand, it's the complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:00 PM
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So you haven't heard of the female delusion calculator then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:59 PM
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What's this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 06:17 PM
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Do you know what the female delusion calculator is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:49 PM
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It isn't hard to reconcile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:23 PM
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I know. It's like a gay man being attracted to man boobs on an obese male just not when they're attached to a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:05 PM
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So you like the feel of a penis just not attached to a man. Umm okay
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:23 PM
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You still didn't negate my point. You require more from a man than a man requires from you. But hey let's just call that "compatibility."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:45 PM
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Why use strap ons, you're lesbians? Lesbians don't like dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:59 PM
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But if you're expecting a ring from him that means he's already demonstrated "husband qualities/traits" otherwise you wouldn't be with him. If you're already getting "husband privileges" why do you need to get married? You're basically admitting that you expect him to pay for more than 50/50 in order to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:50 PM
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Got it. She's cool with the arrangement. Man that was so hard to say that 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:46 PM
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And those women who can have kids "with or without romantic partners" are setting those kids up for failure. Statistics show that kids are worse off being raised by single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:36 PM
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The only problem with your argument is men have no problem dating a woman who is not a professional and doesn't make a lot of money. You however require it. You're just confirming redpill at this point in that women date up not down. Congrats 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:31 PM
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So you agree with red pillers that women are hypergamous then? You literally laid out what Redpill men say women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:16 PM
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I agree, but in every relationship I have ever been in it has always been the woman who has tried to pressure me into marriage not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:00 AM
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So you're saying in a relationship a man is more likely to upend a woman's peace moreso than a woman upending a man's peace? I don't know about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:56 AM
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Sorry, there's not some huge increase from 2018 to 2022 where men are just magically having more sex. 4 years time is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:30 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-state-of-our-unions/202302/why-are-so-many-young-men-single-and-sexless https://news.iu.edu/live/news/26924-nearly-1-in-3-young-men-in-the-us-report-having-no https://www.knowledgeformen.com/sexless-and-single-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:17 AM
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The statistics (which are easy to look up) show you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:48 AM
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Because we rarely see women asking men out. I wouldn't consider myself an unattractive guy and have never been asked out by a woman. Every woman I have been in a relationship with I have asked them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:12 PM
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I would say this statement is true because men are more disagreeable than women are and hence more different from each other. Women are far more agreeable which makes them seem all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:44 AM
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Partner = making the same amount of money as you Loser = not making as much money as you Great logic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:43 PM
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But you also said you're okay with a man making more than you. Why do you care about this if no one should be the primary provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:21 AM
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Oh yes because feminism leads to being genuinely wanted and loved. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:18 AM
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Exactly. They want to be a leader without any of the responsibility, accountability or provisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:16 AM
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This is ridiculous. You're basically saying people should only date with their socioeconomic "equal." If a woman makes more than a man, that's a problem for you. If a man makes more than a woman that's a problem for you. You literally said you don't think anyone should be the primary provider. Good luck finding your socioeconomic unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:13 AM
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Oh the degenerates
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:08 PM
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What are "those types?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:53 PM
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We don't want women like this. This women is influencing other women to be like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:45 PM
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"The number of children with deadbeat dads is 33%?" I like how you can just pull statistics right out of thin air. Maybe read something that isn't trying to make you angry...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:34 AM
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I don't know what statistics you're looking at but some statistics have paternity fraud at all the way up to 32%. That's a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:25 AM
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Actually not incredibly rare. From what we know from paternity tests, family ancestry tests, DNA tests done on parents to see if they have any genetic illnesses that could be passed onto their kids, all have produced a lot of paternity fraud. And doesn't anyone ever feel sorry for the man? Nope. The woman gets all the sympathy for being a garden tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:17 AM
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It's pretty fucked up how much women commit paternity fraud. Expecting a man to raise a kid that isn't even biologically his.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:12 PM
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They do? Where? In the land of make believe? Show me where women are paying for dates, I'll wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:42 PM
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That's why women never pay for dates, drinks, entertainment because.......?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:39 PM
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Good question. That's most women. Her money is her money and his money is their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:50 PM
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No. Most men do not want a high earning women because: 1: We don't have access to your money. 2: You're not gonna spend it on us anyways. Where on the flipside women will tell men they need to make at least as much money as her or more. You being a high earner doesn't benefit us in anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:42 PM
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Ahh yes women fluidly going from guy to guy are totally interested in romantic relationships. Good grief
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:49 PM
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"Men want women to pick them?" Isn't that what should be entailed if women nowadays say they believe in equality? Or do you just pick and choose what you want to be equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:45 PM
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That wasn't "atheism" though. That's communism. Show me where the official religion of Atheism is, and what it's tenets, principles, rules, rituals, etc. are?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:06 PM
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If men never had the monopoly on physical force, why would you need a Colt 45? You should have no problem defending yourself without a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:47 PM
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😂😂😂 Wow you are delusional. I didn't know women were physically stronger between the two sexes. I guess after thousands of years we had it all wrong, women should have been fighting the wars and not men. Nice try topentertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:46 PM
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You think most women are like this? 😂😂😂 Oh so it's okay for you to make generalizations about "most women" but when men do it we're completely out of line?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:17 PM
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😂😂😂 Keep telling yourself that. I'm gonna keep going with what has been clearly demonstrated and observed in reality. I literally work in a warehouse where there is a lot of physical labor and in the 12 years I've worked there, there hasn't been one woman able to do the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:59 AM
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😂😂😂 Ahh that's right, when men were sent off to die in wars, so companies asked women if they wanted to do the work. Doesn't change any of the statistics on men dominating the jobs I listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:53 AM
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That still doesn't refute anything I said 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:51 AM
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Umm no. As it stands men still overwhelming do all the hard physical labor jobs. Men overwhelming maintain the infrastructure of society (roads, electricity, farming, construction, plumbing, hvac, water treatment/sewage, garbage, communications, oil refineries, the list goes on and on.) But hey keep fantasizing about your feminist utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:31 AM
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Women only become truly as empowered as men with the help of the state. Men will always have the monopoly on force.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:18 AM
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Because women have been so supportive and forthcoming with their support of men's emotions and mental health. Women don't give a shit. The minute a woman says she wants a man who is "emotionally vulnerable" he immediately gets chastised for being "whiny" or "complaining too much." Women don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:07 AM
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According to you women are "actually saying" patriarchy is the transference of property and rights from father to son for generations. I know very few men who have had "property" transferred to them from their father and how do you transfer "rights" from father to son? Most of the men I know are just working their asses off struggling to survive, they aren't getting property and rights transferred to them by their father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:12 AM
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Huh? Correct, men aren't the ones who have changed, women have. Financial liberation, Sexual liberation, reproductive liberation, workforce liberation, etc. Despite women having equality and these varied forms of liberation they still expect a man to adhere to traditional gender roles. Despite now believing in equality. If we're equal women should be doing all the exact things men are expected to do in your original post. Except women won't because they don't truly believe in equality. They only…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:44 AM
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Then why are you expecting men to adhere to traditional gender roles? You're a walking contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:24 AM
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"It's like applying for a job and before the interview asking for a raise. No, first you PROVE you can do the job, THEN we'll discuss compensation." No. Your analogy fails. No one is going into an interview expecting a raise before the interview. The interview entails discussing what the pay rate will be for the job being done. The person being interviewed can then decide whether the financial compensation is fair in relation to the job he is expected to do. In other words, there is a mutual con…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:47 PM
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The problem is, every one of your points is referring to traditional male behavior, traditional gender roles men have adhered too. Women nowadays have in large part discarded traditional gender roles under feminism. This does not work. You can't have a man be expected to adhere to traditional gender roles while women don't have too. I know you will fail to understand this because you think you are a "traditional woman" but I can almost certainly bet you are not considering you are blue pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:36 PM
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So why shouldn't women have to prove themselves then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:24 PM
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Ahh so you don't believe in equality then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:54 PM
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No, men would still be going after loser women due to the differences in libidos. Hence why you stated men are "spamming" all these women and whining for sex. At the end of the day woman's standards/requirements/expectations are higher than men's and as such are seeking higher value men (20%.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:52 PM
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I'm not saying every woman is going after 5 men, what I'm saying is women are going after what they perceive as a man in that top 20%. That doesn't mean she'll get that guy and may have to remain single for a while. However they are not looking at dudes in the lower echelons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:40 PM
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Congrats! You acknowledge the 80/20 rule. 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:26 PM
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Exactly because those 70% of men are not being approached or having success in real life. The 20% don't need dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:59 PM
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Really, why are my comments down voted all the time then if it's "against the rules?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:11 AM
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Ahh yes women constantly seeking external validation and attention from men through Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Onlyfans, dating apps is very much imprisonment. WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:09 AM
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Your feelings are yours and yours alone. Your feelings don't dictate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:05 AM
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Down voting is not against the rules nor are emojis. My comments get down voted all the time by women on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:03 AM
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Oh so I'm supposed to give a bunch of examples of how terrible women treat men and then you say, "it's not the same?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:01 AM
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Spoken like a good feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:57 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:56 AM
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It's so terrible having people be attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:38 AM
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Oh so all those women wanting a man that makes 6,7 figures a year are just lying? Get out of here. Women want them brokies? 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:32 PM
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This is a lose lose situation for you. If you're attractive, men have asked you out at some point and paid your way. If you're unattractive and get no attention from men, welcome to what it's like for every man, attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:32 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BCVzuvOBim0
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:29 PM
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Ahh the gender pay gap myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:58 PM
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Really? Where are all these single women at pursuing me, asking me out on dates, paying for dates, gifts, entertainment, etc. Oh that's right, that's female privilege, men don't have those luxuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:48 PM
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Except you're a woman who literally relies on external validation and attention from Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, etc. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:49 AM
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Yep the admins here hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:36 AM
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The past is the past? 😂😂😂😂 Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:43 PM
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Most definitely. They are purposely being dishonest so they don't have to admit they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:46 PM
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I've used analogies like this before and women don't get it. They'll say "women are not cars" or "women are not fish" completely missing the point of the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:02 PM
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Would you want to be with a man if you knew he cheated on all of his partners in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:48 PM
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"Nice guy" has 2 meanings. One is actually being nice and the other is being a pushover." So when a man is not a pushover, but rather a "nice guy" and actually enforces his boundaries/rules guess what he gets called? Controlling, insecure, asshole, etc. There's a fine line a guy has to walk where he isn't a pushover but if he enforces any of his rules or pushes back against any of your feminist nonsense he is no longer a "nice guy." I don't think you could actually define what a nice guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:23 PM
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But I thought women were the ones better at communication? lol If you women were the ones actually better at communication you wouldn't have to use the term "nice guys" to mean multiple things. You would just say what you mean. Plus, if men are the ones expected to pick up on subtle clues and body language (according to women) that would make men the better communicators.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:16 PM
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Nope. Your analogy will continue to fail and mine will continue to be correct as long as men are the ones primarily pursuing women and women are not. Simple as that. You just don't like the analogy because you know it's true. Especially when women are asked for dating advice and it never works. For example, women will tell you they want a "nice guy" meanwhile hundreds of videos of them are saying how nice guys give them the "ick." Women don't even know what they want, why would a man ever take d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:52 PM
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Ahh the ole misogyny label for everything you disagree with. No, the analogy still stands because women don't pursue men and therefore have no experience in the matter. It's like saying, you might be able to decorate the house and put up curtains, but you have no knowledge/experience when it comes to hiring a contractor or building a house yourself. Don't get mad at me because women in large part don't pursue men. The Bumble dating app already proved this clearly, you women can't even be bothere…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:52 PM
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Why does being selective entail men having to pursue and ask women out? You mean to tell me you can't be choosy by just going up to the guy you want in the first place? You want to have it both ways. You want to be selective by rejecting this guy and that guy and not having to pursue. Please explain why you could not be selective by pursuing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:40 PM
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Except fish don't talk just like women don't approach. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:05 AM
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Ahh let's ignore statistics, but pop off lg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:58 AM
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Woman dating another woman. Ahh the category that tends to have the most failed relationships. That's not an opinion either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:52 AM
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Then you shouldn't go to the "no go" zones in Dearborn, Michigan and others run by Muslim men. There is a lot of "forcing" going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:18 PM
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Probably a little bit of both. First off religion doesn't deserve respect people do. They're entitled to practice their religion to their heart's content but need to realize their religious freedom begins and ends with them. Too many of these types including Christians wish to impose their religious beliefs onto everyone else. Religion is not off limits to ridicule, criticism, or questioning. Would you be cool with them forcing you to wear a hijab?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:49 PM
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I agree American Christians have religious privilege. I would not say American Muslims are oppressed. Do they get a lot of flack? Sure, but I would say that's because their values do not align with Western values. If you go to Dearborn Michigan where there is a huge population of Muslims, I don't think you would find it a very pleasant place to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:54 AM
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Based upon what? I'm a man who has a child and love being a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:32 AM
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But in your example you would be committing a crime in one country and then returning to your country of origin, the United States is "one" country. So in your "state's rights" view I should be criminalized for smoking weed in a state where it's legal even if my "state of origin" it is illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:31 AM
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You're definition of oppression is the same as Christians claiming they are being "oppressed" in the US. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:51 PM
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But we are the "United" States. If someone wants to do something that is illegal in their state but legal in another they should be able to without being punished. Otherwise you don't fundamentally believe it's a "state's rights" issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:47 PM
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But the poor treatment of women is by "some" men not ALL men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:37 PM
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You're assuming access to birth control and feminism promoting childlessness are mutually exclusive, they're not. Both things can be simultaneously true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:28 PM
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Never watched those, but I'm sure those are all fictional shows/movies so not really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:38 PM
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Really? Name the blue pill sources explaining the negative qualities of female nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:36 PM
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Women are selecting men based upon their personalities? 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:01 PM
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No, it's hidden because it doesn't exactly paint women in the greatest light and that's not socially acceptable now is it? You mean women aren't sugar and spice and everything nice? Society has no problem highlighting the bad qualities of men but if you do the same towards women, look out. Who ever told you that female nature is only good?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:26 PM
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What you fail to understand though is though women no longer "need men" they still want all the same things provided to them by men when they once needed men. It'd be different if women were like "hey we don't need you anymore and therefore we will pay our own way in a relationship, but they don't." They still want the benefits of traditional gender roles when it benefits them and the benefits of feminism when it benefits them. This is what guys are upset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:01 PM
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I agree however modern day feminists will simultaneously say they are opposed to traditional gender roles while wanting access to them when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:00 PM
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Then you haven't listened to what modern feminists are saying. I know it sound's crazy right? That's how far feminism has gone over the edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:59 AM
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So then you're not a feminist based upon what you wrote. Feminists believe that men and women are the same, we are not. Feminists believe that women can do everything a man can do, they cannot. At what point does your feminism come into play since you're a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:05 AM
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Cool, so you're fine acknowledging that women are weaker overall and cannot do most of the physically laborous jobs that men can do. After all, your female biology cannot be equalized, your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:21 AM
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At least your honest about not being a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:25 AM
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So you're Redpilled as well 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:24 AM
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But you're getting "husband privileges" prior to getting married. If you weren't you wouldn't be pressuring him to marry you. Clearly he has already demonstrated he has qualities you like otherwise you wouldn't be in a relationship with him. Stop with this "forever girlfriend" nonsense as if it's only men who benefit in the relationship stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:52 PM
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Do you not know what one of the best selling books of all time is? Purchased mostly by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:47 PM
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Further confirming the Red pill. Women don't like "pussified weak men." You said it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:28 PM
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I mean who needs that feminist equality stuff right? Feminism only seeks equality when it benefits them and when it doesn't it's traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:25 PM
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Ahh so you're into traditional genders roles? Telling a man to "man up" is the equivalent of telling a woman to get back into the kitchen. Nice toxic misandry 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:23 PM
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I don't hold modern people responsible for events that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. That is morally disgusting. Why do you hold modern men accountable for things that happened hundreds/thousands of years ago that we had nothing to do with? Pretty disgusting if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:15 PM
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But you're making the same argument that modern white people should be held responsible for slavery in the 1800s in the US. I have nothing to do with that nor share the same beliefs of the people that enacted those atrocities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:54 PM
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I agree with both points you made. However a man doesn't need to be a simp to get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:10 PM
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And you wonder why men don't want to be in a relationship with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:22 AM
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Cool. So that means you'd be okay with her going to another state to hang out with a male friend for a few days by herself? A male friend that you do not know? Because hey you have different boundaries right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:11 AM
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So let me get this straight, a woman can impose a 10 date rule or 3 month rule before any physical intimacy happens all the while he's giving her time, dates, money, energy, attention, validation, etc. and then when physical intimacy finally happens he decides him and her are not sexually/physically compatible. What did he do wrong? He respected her rules, her boundaries, then decided she was not for him. It seems like he put forth more effort into the relationship than what he was getting in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:47 AM
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I have never heard of men simping for a prolific female serial killer but I could list many male serial killers that woman have simped for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:30 AM
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Men have less sex now because they are single? Sure, not necessarily by choice though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:01 AM
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No because those guys still probably had to put in some amount of work (gym, money, social skills, charisma, etc.) The men still have to pursue women, ask them out, set up the dates, pay for the date, be expected to make the first move. Women don't have to do any of those things to get laid. Sure the attractive man it's going to be much easier, but he's gonna have to do some amount of work. Women just have to show up and look pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:00 AM
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Sure, but women have already stated they don't find most men attractive. Those "some men" are much more rare and are the exception. Average to below average women still have no problem getting sex. This isn't the same for guys. There's been multiple studies showing how men are having much less sex than they used too, and it's not because they don't want too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:59 AM
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Cock can't get used up, only vaginas
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:44 AM
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Ahh there it is, you finally admitted men don't want promiscuous women. When women are asked though if they want a man who has experience or is a virgin, they literally never pick virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:43 AM
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1) She didn't bring up the 666's I did. 2) Correct, what's your point? Apparently she is not allowed to think for herself or respond to me since you seemed to be her "mediator." Why don't you just let her speak for herself instead of assuming what you think "she already knows."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:37 AM
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Since you're an antinatalist why do you feel this is the best option?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:18 AM
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Obviously no one at any age is guaranteed a good partner, a good lover, etc. But you don't think women are drastically reducing their chances by stating they want a man with the 666's?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:57 PM
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So if women are not settling according to you, they are all happy then in their 30s, 40s, 50s who claim they wish they would have had kids, who claim they wish they could have started a family with a nice guy, etc. If they're not settling then they're all happy being single and child free according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:54 PM
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Kind of off subject, but why do you think less people are getting married nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:32 PM
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Yes, they do date you (that isn't in dispute) they are not a valid option though otherwise you wouldn't be single. Do you understand what I'm saying? I have no problem accepting you probably get a ton of dates, but they are not men that you want otherwise you wouldn't be single. Hence the illusion of optionality. It's like the women with Onlyfans or hundreds of thousands of Instagram followers who are men. Guess what? Most of those men are not desirable. Most of those men are simps. Most of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:23 PM
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So the high divorce rate doesn't indicate anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:09 PM
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Yeah that would be a big no for me. If you can't even remember how many people you've slept with? WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:09 PM
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If you could understand analogies instead of immediately going to your emotions. Please explain for me then why the stereotype exists of men having higher body counts are often viewed more positively and women having higher body counts are viewed more negatively? And don't just say because of "toxic masculinity." Please show me the guy that wants a woman who has had a lot of sexual partners? Just recently Lana Rhoades a prominent female pornstar is trying to get all of her content wiped off the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:06 PM
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Okay if these are "disparaging names" and body count doesn't matter, what's your body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:45 PM
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Okay I didn't need the rest of your comment. Since you agreed with me that it is easier for women to get sex, things that are easily accessible are not as valuable. It is much harder for a guy to get laid and requires much more work/effort and is therefore more rare. Things that are more rare are valued more, things that are easily accessible are not valued as much. This is just one of the many reasons why men do not like female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:43 PM
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I literally said you can be as picky as you want but that doesn't mean you're going to get the guy you want. The more expectations you have the smaller your dating pool becomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:30 PM
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That optionality you have is an illusion. You know how I know this? Most of the guys you believe are options are guys you would never date or be interested in. Especially when they are men that are 40+.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:26 PM
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Simple question: is it easier for women to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:23 PM
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Sure however as a woman in your 40s your options are far less than they were in your early 20s. You're allowed to be as picky as you want but that doesn't mean the guy you want is out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:12 PM
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But there is a ton of unhappy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:09 PM
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Huh? So the woman who finally realizes she wants to have kids and get married at age 38 is not "settling" at all? The guy she gets at 38 is the same caliber of guy she could get at 22? Me thinks not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:01 PM
1

No. Men have no problem dating women who are mid and most men probably date women who are in fact mid. The problem is most women who are mid think they are 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:53 PM
1

But in what way are they supposed to adapt and at what cost?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:25 PM
1

I wasn't simply referring to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:21 PM
1

But infinite population growth or even infinite economic growth on a planet with finite resources isn't a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:19 PM
0

Ahh yes paternity fraud committed by the woman, women not allowing men to see their child, women wanting half or more of everything a man has worked for in divorce even when it was accrued before the marriage, a man having to pay lifetime alimony to his ex, I could keep going. But according to you "rape" only occurs as a physical assault. What do you call it then when a man is falsely accused of rape? Loses his job, loses family members, loses friends, social reputation is destroyed and literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:14 PM
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I don't know if I would call the current "status quo" widespread monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:05 PM
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Sure, that doesn't make it sustainable though. 99% of the animals that once existed on this planet are now extinct. Changes in allele frequencies (variations in genes) within biological evolution are not always beneficial adaptations or mutations. Trying to equate the current dating scene which is a small blip on the map in evolutionary time scales does mean it is sustainable long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:33 AM
2

Ahh so men getting screwed over post divorce is not financial rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:15 AM
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😂😂 Nice strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:12 AM
1

How is that not counting the hits and ignoring the misses?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:07 AM
27

Homeless men approach everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:49 AM
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It's always the "one who filed the paperwork line." We know this is BS because when non married women are asked who is the one who "breaks up" with their partner and women usually are the ones to report they did the dumping. Women are the ones who just like leaving relationships, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:39 PM
1

Then why today are women still initiating 80% of the divorces?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:48 PM
2

So you have to go all the way to hard solipsism to recognize that nothing has intrinsic value/worth? What does Cogito Ergo Sum mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:40 AM
1

No, not my opinion. Show me some "value" that exists independent of your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:26 AM
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No, human beings don't have "intrinsic value" because nothing has intrinsic value. Value is created and assessed by a mind and is therefore subjective by definition. Now do I think human beings have value? Sure, but they have the value that you and I subjectively assign them. My daughter has more value or worth to me than your life does. In regards to leagues or "male made hierarchies" are they man made? Sure, to some degree however some people are far more attractive than others and tend to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:21 AM
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Why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:00 AM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:07 AM
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You're literally using a Redpill line directly from Richard Cooper: women don't care about a man's struggles, they sit at the finish line and pick the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:11 AM
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Pretty much any woman they want because they have options. Unlike a woman who is a solid 3 or 4 and thinks she's a 10 only has the "illusion" of optionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:29 PM
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You're the one who brought up "high value men" not me. I don't give a shit about high value men. I'm only pointing out that there are men who make up a small subset of society. This might be hard for you to understand since all women think they're "high value." They all think they're 10's, their words not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:20 PM
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So men that comprise less than 1% of the male population are not scarce? What does less than 1% mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:10 PM
1

Okay this is your perspective from a woman, that's fine. Can you not fathom that a guy may require different things in order to determine whether he truly likes you or not? I mean men and women are not the same. What if a guy is really into you and you get to the intimacy stage and he finds out you have a bunch of sexual hangups and realizes you and him are not compatible? But he would not know this until he has sex with you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:11 PM
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How so? What do you think a desirable guy is going to do when you've made him wait 3 months or 10 dates before you're physically intimate with him? He's eventually going to think this chick just isn't that into me even though you could really like him. The guy you want to wait for until commitment might not be a guy you actually like but rather a desperate guy who is willing to wait that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:48 PM
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How so? What do you think a desirable guy is going to do when you've made him wait 3 months or 10 dates before you're physically intimate with him? He's eventually going to think this chick just isn't that into me even though you could really like him. The guy you want to wait for until commitment might not be a guy you actually like but rather a desperate guy who is willing to wait that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:47 PM
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How so? What do you think a desirable guy is going to do when you've made him wait 3 months or 10 dates before you're physically intimate with him? He's eventually going to think this chick just isn't that into me even though you could really like him. The guy you want to wait for until commitment might not be a guy you actually like but rather a desperate guy who is willing to wait that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:47 PM
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"If you have great sex and a fun time and then you mention the other guy you're seeing it lets him know that your continued presence in his life and all that great sex is not something to be taken for granted." And the minute you tell him you're seeing other people he's going to think, "she probably says this to every other guy that she's dating." That "great sex" is being taken for granted though, by you. He's going to immediately lose desire for you and bounce when you tell him that you're hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:41 PM
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So a guy is to believe that a woman is "sexually interested" in him after making him wait 3 months or 10+ dates? He's eventually going to think, "this chick just isn't into me" and he's gonna bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:37 PM
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Don't you find it strange though for generations society has had no problem talking about the good qualities of men as well as the bad ones. But when it comes to women we are only allowed to speak about their good qualities and praise them but must remain quiet when it comes to the bad qualities of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:33 AM
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Well then you're the exception. Most women expect men to pay for the first few dates to show that they're willing to "invest" in her lol. Do you realize it's a lose lose situation for a guy if he doesn't pay? If he doesn't pay or expects the bill to be split she'll think he's cheap. If he leads with his wallet then that is what she is going to continually expect from him. But I know, I know you think men have no burden of performance on the first few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:24 AM
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First off, it's just an analogy. You don't want to be used for sex, cool. Men don't want to be used as a personal ATM. We're also in agreement that you hook up with a guy before you commit, that's redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:50 AM
1

Is going on 10+ dates without sex not considered commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:46 AM
2

So a man should be expected to buy the car before he test drives it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:33 AM
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Nobody owes anybody sex. Nobody owes anybody a relationship. Women don't owe men sex, but if there is no sex then there is no relationship. Women want commitment prior to there being sex. A man is not going to commit if he doesn't get any sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:30 AM
1

You mean the women who are trashed for literally acting like trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:25 AM
1

"The era we're in now strikes me as a temporary overcorrection." Overcorrection in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:23 AM
1

Well said brotha!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:14 AM
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"If he wants you, he has to act. Make him take all the steps towards a non-casual relationship." If you want him, you're not supposed to act? So just one way access then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:08 AM
1

So he has to buy the car before he is allowed to test drive it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:56 AM
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"The men's equivalent would be to pay for dates and buy the woman a ton of things and that will make her want to date him, and we all know how that advice would play out. It just doesn't work, the vast majority of people either consciously or subconsciously take as much as they can get and give as little as they can get away with." What you want is the equivalent of a man going to the car dealership and the salesman says, you can look at the car, maybe sit in the seat, walk around it, but by no …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:39 AM
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I think he's just referring to the disproportionate libido between men and women. Men have 17 times more testosterone than women and as such are usually more horny than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:33 AM
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"If you want commitment from a man, you find men who want commitment and you dismiss the rest with great fury. Give out as little sex (or none, I prefer none) until you have received a genuine and heartfelt commitment you see as viable in the long-term. Have discipline. Position before submission." What you women don't understand and this might sound crass but, men don't know if we really like you until we have sex with you first. You want that genuine heartfelt commitment from a nice guy that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:30 AM
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"that's a man advising women to give men everything right off the bat" Isn't that what women are expecting of men right off the bat? A man is expected to give you his time, money, attention, validation, resources, be chivalrous, be a gentleman, be masculine, show that he has money, be 6ft tall, be attractive, don't be short, bald, broke, awkward, etc. It seems like women want a man to be the total package right off the bat. If he has one thing that gives her the ick then she rules him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:19 AM
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"Stopped others from falling on the deep end and pulled my brother out of it by myself." And how did you "pull your brother out of it?" Guarantee it wouldn't work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:02 AM
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This is the same as telling men to "just be yourself." Men who already tick a bunch of her boxes or meet her looks threshold can afford to "just be themselves." However if he doesn't have it going on in the looks department telling him to "just be yourself" isn't going to help him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:59 PM
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When women all say they're 10's, who's defining their league?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:51 PM
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Why did you get into a relationship with him then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:47 PM
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Ahh so it's all business when it involves men being the ones who get rejected and have to start the conversation. But when women are the ones who are expected to lead the conversation and potentially get rejected resulting in Bumble losing revenue they have to go back to the tried and true model where men have to lead the conversation, get rejected, get no dms, etc. Women don't want true equality when it doesn't benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:41 PM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:04 PM
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Woman do this shit all the time. You should look up the statistics on it. And this is one of the many reasons why men do not want a promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:34 PM
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You realize men literally designed, built, and maintain the infrastructure of society? If men don't do these jobs no one will. Women sure as hell aren't lining up to do these jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:22 PM
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How about women not being held accountable for lying to men about paternity fraud? A man could literally pay child support and or raise a child for years only to find out the child wasn't his because the mother was sleeping around. And guess what? No accountability for these women. They just get off scott free and we know this actually happens quite a bit now thorough paternity tests, family tree DNA tests, hospital visits where the dad has to submit a DNA test if there is some sort of genetic t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:56 PM
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Sure, should they not also have to do all the physically laborous jobs that men do? The gross jobs, dangerous jobs, physically demanding jobs, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:17 PM
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Paying for dates
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:55 PM
4

Yep that's what I thought about your redpill comment. It's okay you can be a man hating feminist man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:41 PM
2

Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:40 PM
3

You mean like feminists when you criticize their ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:35 PM
1

Yes and they realized women were not bringing in the bacon for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:32 AM
1

So you're pro OnlyFans then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:31 AM
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Why do you hate men so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:29 AM
2

Yes and they had to appeal to traditional gender roles to generate more profit. Almost like telling women to lead the conversation was a bad idea. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:24 AM
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Nope not really. For an ideology to be considered a cult it has to fit the BITE model. B: behavior control I: information control T: thought control E: emotional control I don't see the Redpill controlling any of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:18 AM
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And that's exactly why women cannot be leaders. Why not message men first like the app was initially designed for? Nope still has to rely on men for traditional roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:14 AM
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A lot of guys like Rich Cooper.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:57 AM
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Because it demonstrates that a woman will put forth effort into getting what she wants. Instead she is at the mercy of men who message her first, most of whom she's not even attracted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:51 AM
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Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:47 AM
1

So any female representative in the US arguing on behalf of feminism is not recruiting?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:52 PM
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So in essence woman are not accountable for being promiscuous, sexually irresponsible but men are? Please explain for me what entails a woman being sexually responsible with her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:26 PM
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So let me ask you this: if a man knocks up a woman he wants nothing to do with and she decides to keep the baby, you would probably claim he needs to "step up and be a man and financially support his child" correct? But if a woman gets knocked up by a man that she wants nothing to do with and subsequently has an abortion, and someone tells her she "should've kept her damn legs closed" you would agree with that statement, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:19 PM
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Yep, you're lines are probably drawn at, "a woman should be able to do whatever she wants in a relationship" regardless of what the man may think?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:02 PM
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So you're saying the man is only free from obligations if the woman allows him to be? That's how autonomy works right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:58 PM
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Just not authority over his financial obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:45 PM
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Good luck bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:39 PM
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Sure, but don't you find it funny that for eons we as a society have had no problems pointing out the "good qualities" of men and the "bad qualities" of men. But when it comes to women we are only allowed to talk the "good qualities" and if we talk about the bad we are instantly labeled as sexist, misogynist, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:18 PM
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The same way women have no problem grabbing a man's bicep, pec muscle, back, or butt in a bar if she finds him attractive (which is technically sexual assault and underreported) but if a man was to do those things to a woman well....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:07 PM
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So the man should be expected to support his child and the mother especially when he didn't want the kid in the first place? I thought women were supposed to be strong independent boss babes nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:51 PM
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First off I'm pro choice. Second off, men are expected to be responsible if you keep the baby, but not allowed to feel upset if you aborted and he wanted to keep it? Responsibility comes with authority, the man has no authority over what a woman wishes to do with her body. You expect him to have all the responsibility while having none of the authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:38 PM
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And this is what you don't understand. The things a man would want in a marriage are already present in that "relationship stage." A man doesn't really benefit from marriage long term but has a lot to lose if the marriage goes south.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:29 PM
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If the "teachings" have validity they will stand on their own merit. Not because an old book says so or some god decrees it. These are human values not "Christian values." Is it any surprise that cultures all around the world speak of the golden rule some predating Christianity? These are emergent properties as the result of humans being a social species. Not a fan of Jordan Peterson, that guy is the king of word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:27 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:20 PM
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Said no man ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:20 PM
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"I'm under no delusions that marriage makes people not cheat, or changes the day-to-day operation of the relationship in any meaningful way. What it does signify to me is a more meaningful level of commitment that allows us to plan our lives as a unit." This comment literally contradicts itself. On one hand you said it doesn't change the day to day operation of the relationship in any meaningful way. On the other hand you claim it makes the level of commitment more meaningful?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:18 PM
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Except the divorce rates say you're wrong. You can plan for the next 50-60 years all you want doesn't mean the other person is gonna stick around. And I say that as an Atheist as well. Atheists are supposed to be skeptics and one should be skeptical of marriage as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:10 PM
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I'm still waiting for Christians to demonstrate how they know it is "God's word" and not just man pretending to speak for God. And no you cannot know anything through faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:05 PM
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This is called "onenitis" within Redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:02 PM
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Ahh so you just pick and choose what you want to believe out of Christianity like all Christians do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:40 PM
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Which is exactly why Redpill teaches men to stay away from such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:36 PM
2

Just not the Christian patriarch values am I correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:28 PM
2

Why aren't you blue pill rather than purple pill? None of your comments are in favor of men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:25 PM
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It's almost like you're Redpilled yourself. You recognize that woman are beauty objects and men are success objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:10 PM
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Is that what feminism recruits for as well? If so, then men are perfectly justified in pushing back against the toxic aspects of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:08 PM
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Ahh so you just chalk it up to men and woman are mostly the same and therefore there's no point in discussing issues that uniquely apply to men. Gotcha good discussion. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:54 PM
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So you think men and women are more similar than different? I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:29 PM
2

So then it would logically follow that men and women have different desires, goals, interests, different sexual strategies, respond to things differently, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:20 PM
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Recruit for what purpose? That's like asking does feminism recruit? If so, what for?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:13 PM
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Do men and women have different "natures" or are we just exactly the same, as feminists would have you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:46 PM
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When a man is constantly rejected, lied too, manipulated, cheated upon, exploited for time, money, energy, resources, validation eventually he is going to look for solutions to his problems. And the solutions are not coming from women nor could they.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:20 PM
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So is feminism a cult as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:14 PM
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Exactly. A lot of the women on here only view it through the lens of the Pickup artist bullshit and how to get laid when it actually goes a lot deeper than that. The women on here don't want to understand core differences between masculinity and femininity and how this plays out in dating, relationships, society, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:11 PM
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I'm glad this "poison" gets expressed as well so when men see women acting exactly as Redpill has described we know what to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:01 PM
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"If someone thinks a bunch of awful things are just "your nature," Are men and women different?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:57 PM
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You're the one who said men fear losing leverage. That implies the women has it. Women are not the gatekeepers of sex? You mean a guy can get sex whenever he wants it lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:52 PM
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Even if that was true it's probably because men are not the protected class of the two genders. Men are expected to be able to take care of themselves, women not so much. Men understand women will only love us conditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:00 PM
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Let's say this is true, what do women do when they have the leverage? If women are just these kind altruistic beings what do they do when they have "leverage" in a relationship? Explain these noble qualities that women display when they have leverage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 11:54 AM
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There are ladies out there who don't expect men to pay for dates? Welcome to the land of make believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 11:27 AM
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Correct. Nobody owes anybody sex. Nobody owes anybody a relationship. However do you think there is no discussion to be had as to what's fair and reasonable? Even though there is no actual fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:03 AM
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I'm literally married to a beautiful woman and have a daughter. Simply pointing out how blue pill never works. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:44 AM
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Huh? Wow you're a hardcore feminist incapable of understanding anything from a different perspective. Thanks for telling me the definition of something I already know. What makes you think I don't have any success with woman? Insanity is adopting the blue pill and realizing it doesn't work so you try something else and realize you get much better results. But hey thanks crazy feminist lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:42 AM
1

Well is the short, fat, bald, unattractive man dating a woman who is a 9 or 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:12 AM
0

Correct and their partners are a direct reflection of that. You're still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:32 AM
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Yes we understand that makeup comes off duh. Have you not see any of the tik tok before and after makeup videos? Holy shit some of those woman are hideous without makeup but with makeup they're not too bad. But it's men that are being dishonest, give me a break. Yes the honeymoon fades, but you're acting like this is solely the man's fault. I've never lied about my hobbies or what social issues I care about. This is comparable to a woman saying she loves to cook/clean and you end up at her place…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 12:38 AM
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So you're saying a man should just "let himself go" during the relationship and not continue to improve himself and maintain his duties?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:46 PM
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Which is why couples probably shouldn't cohabitate. Comfortability breeds complacency. He may want to have his own place but she is always yearning to want to move in together and have their own "shared home."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:36 PM
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Because the only guys that are allowed to "be themselves" are guys that already check a bunch of her other boxes. If you're short, fat, bald, ugly, broke, etc. your personality isn't going to "win" her over. Despite what women may tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:30 PM
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So when women wear a bunch of makeup and act like sex kittens in the early stages of a relationship for that to only disappear down the road, "that's just all the man's fault?" Women never take accountability for presenting a false impression of themselves. They can put on a good PR stunt for that first year.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:27 PM
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So you're saying we should just be the worthless slugs that we are on the first date and instantly disqualify ourselves? Men probably wouldn't feel like they have to put on a show if women's expectations/standards weren't so unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:23 PM
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Then you're just not looking at the compelling evidence then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:13 PM
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So are you pointing to the exceptions to the rule and saying, "see Red Pillers those aren't facts." When in reality of course there are exceptions but the exceptions don't make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:11 PM
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Those aren't cold hard facts however they tend to be patterns that we observe over and over again to the point where we think they are logical absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:05 PM
1

Do you have any good examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:02 PM
1

Okay?...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:31 AM
2

Women will pretend that they are all exactly the same when some of them are barely functioning humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:52 AM
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Yeah you don't understand red pill principles. If you go to listen to Rich Cooper (YouTube channel is Entrepreneurs in Cars) you will see how he is one of the biggest red pillers on YT and he clearly explains how you cannot negotiate genuine burning desire. He literally explains how you should not lead with your wallet as that is all that women will use you for. Your misunderstanding the concept of "negotiating genuine burning desire."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:01 AM
2

Yeah that's why they're prisoners and not free men just living their lives not harming anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:22 PM
0

Ahh so you do recognize comparing everyday morally decent men to violent prisoners is dishonest and disingenuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:17 PM
1

What part of everyday society do people hang out with a prison full of violent men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:08 PM
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But feminists will tell you that men and women are exactly the same and women can do everything a man can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:07 PM
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"Prison full of violent men?" You mean everyday society where women pass hundreds of men who never do anything to them? Nice strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:05 PM
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This seems perfectly in line with red pill principles. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Red pill explicitly states you cannot negotiate genuine burning desire (attraction.) A woman either has gbd for you or she does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:45 AM
2

Are you a traditional woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 11:10 PM
2

Most women at some point want to cohabitate. Red pill pushes the idea of not cohabitating so I would say he's fairly red pilled. Especially when he said he wouldn't be obsessed (pedestaliaze) over her. Also a red pill principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:54 PM
3

Great. Those are traits of a traditional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:17 PM
6

Men attempt to do that and then are told "you're controlling me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:17 PM
0

Because when you date those women they still want a man that makes more money them, they still want a man to pay for shit, they still want a man for security, they still want a man to fix shit for them, they still want a man to chase them, set up dates, pay for dates, initiate the first move, I could go on and on. These so called modern independent feminist women still want access to traditional men despite not being traditional themselves. This doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:59 AM
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😂😂😂 So you're a traditionalist then? Women don't give they take.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:28 PM
0

Cool, that benefits you and is a traditional gender role. What do we as men get?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:18 PM
1

So do men get these "social protections" and "privileges" as well? If so, what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:15 PM
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I'm all for equal rights. Who's providing the social protection and at what cost?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:08 PM
-1

Then why do women who espouse "equality," "independence," "female empowerment," "boss babes" also want access to traditional gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:27 PM
0

Exactly most women have no idea about the stuff we're talking about. Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:14 PM
0

This is the way almost all woman are on TikTok. It's not just one example. The examples are endless. How many of the loyalty test phone swaps have you seen? Almost every one of them the woman comes out looking like a lying distrustul cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:05 PM
1

Where is the heartbreaking part?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:19 AM
0

The woman had plenty of opportunities to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:34 AM
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Wo Wo Wo, what "husband benefits" are you not getting from him in a committed relationship? Clearly you view him as worth your time otherwise you wouldn't be with him. What benefits does a man get from a woman after being married?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:24 AM
1

Heartbreaking? If roles were reversed in that story and the man had wanted kids and his wife was "not ready" and she divorces and immediately gets pregnant with new guy. The man wouldn't expect her to personally call him and tell him that she's pregnant with her new husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:21 AM
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Exactly! You want that safety net if the marriage goes south. Dudes don't get a safety net if the marriage goes south. In my state there is no default 50/50 custody of kids. If you're a woman you're simply granted that by virtue of having a vagina whereas if you're a man you have to lawyer up to get custody. Feminism sure loves equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:12 AM
3

That's not dating. That's just a f*ck buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:50 AM
2

Why go out with her at all then? I mean she knows it's ultimately not going to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:48 AM
1

Goddam women are so afraid of rejection. "How dare we have to make the first move."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:41 AM
1

You're missing my point. Sex is a natural part of life, pair bonding, reproduction, etc. Why do you think men being deprived of this is a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:00 PM
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Except attraction and love is not all they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:36 PM
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You're looking at this all wrong. It's not that young American and Japanese men wouldn't love to have a great woman in their life, it's just that they don't want to put up with all of the bullshit that comes with modern woman. The boss babes, the extreme feminists, the OF women, the unrealistic expectations, etc. It's not that men don't have the urge It's just high risk low reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:03 PM
1

Dampen this urge how? You realize men produce 17 times more Testosterone than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:30 AM
1

How? You need the independents to win and he is not polling good with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:16 PM
1

We can't. We evolved this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:10 PM
1

In what way? The orange turd losing again? Let's see, Trump caused the Republicans to lose the 2018 midterms, the 2020 general election, and the 2022 midterms. He's not gaining any support and is in fact losing support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:08 PM
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So let me get this straight, you're only a girlfriend and already hate your boyfriend this much? Assuming he is the one you're referring to in your rant. If not, you're making a generalization of all men especially husbands. It's so bizarre to me how women pressure men so much for committment/marriage and then bitch about him the entire time after they got what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:38 AM
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First off, my wife doesn't do any of those things you mentioned. Second off you sound like a real misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:30 AM
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Planning shit for men such as...?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:00 AM
1

I find it funny that men never use the word "insecure" for really anything. But women use that word all the damn time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:47 AM
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So I can ascertain whether or not you actually believe in a fair and equitable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:07 AM
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You were being very vague in your answer. Obviously people can want whatever they want but that doesn't mean they will get it. I'm asking YOU what it is you expect or want in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:01 AM
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So you don't believe there are baseline expectations, rules, boundaries, etc that should be expected in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:57 AM
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Well what should women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:06 AM
0

What should "non sexist" men want from a woman in modern times?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:29 AM
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Well for starters, Peterson said on Kyle Kulinski's channel that he doesn't think adults should be allowed to transition in regards to transgender people. His takes on religion are just plain stupid and awful as well. You should watch his debate with Matt Dillahunty where Matt makes him look like the blathering idiot he is. Peterson also claims to be opposed to postmodernism while being the biggest postmodernist there is often spewing out word salad and empty rhetoric. He has also done videos fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:31 PM
1

Except many modern feminist women want to do both. They want to be able to jump between men and have a man provide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:22 AM
1

Seems pretty well educated to me. Versus what? Your anecdotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:09 PM
1

So nothing caused him to become a "couch potato?" It just happened out of the blue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:54 PM
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Ring goes on her finger and she has everything she wanted (as you stated earlier) and she becomes "settled." No longer trying to impress him, physical intimacy goes out the window despite her telling him that would never change once they got married, she gets bored, he no longer "excites" her, etc. Woman do this all the time in marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:44 PM
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Except we have data from a world renowned dating psychologist (Esther Perel) who has shown that a woman's desire for a man can be very high in the early stages of a relationship and around a year or so her desire for him can literally drop off a cliff. Whereas a man's desire for a woman slowly plateaus and wanes off over a longer period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:34 PM
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This doesn't negate the red pill though. If each of them are the "best" that each can do then that explains why they're together. Now if the guy was 5'5" fat, 30+ and with a smoking hot girlfriend that would seem to fly in the face of red pill philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:14 PM
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"Use her as a starter?" You mean like how women use men for resources, attention, sex, etc. all the time? So a woman should wait at the finish line to see the "final product" or cost as you say, but men are supposed to just accept women for who they are regardless of whether they've done any work on themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:01 PM
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Then you're acknowledging that women are just as if not more superficial than men if she's only willing to be with you after "you've done the work." This negates the idea that women just want you to "be yourself" or that "personality is more important" to her. Clearly they don't give a fuck about your personality if you've got to meet a whole lot criterias first. This confirms red pill not purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:46 PM
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She's only going to have desire for you after you've "done the work." That's not negotiating genuine burning desire. Women don't care about your struggles, they sit at the finish line and pick the winners. So you're still wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:06 PM
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This is what I tried telling to a woman on here. I stated you cannot negotiate genuine burning desire and that she either likes you or she does not. She insisted that you can negotiate desire. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:21 PM
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Yes we know you don't like most of the men you get attention from on OLD. At least you get options to weed out the bad guys. Men get no matches at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:17 PM
0

How so? What resources can be extracted from a woman for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:24 PM
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So you like attractive simps? 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:23 PM
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Except woman aren't attracted to simps. You're telling men to behave in a way that you yourself are not attracted to. Unless you're going to admit you like simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:22 PM
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But if a man constantly fears the possibility of losing you, he should become a simp towards you instead? And as such you lose respect for him because you view him as weak and a simp. You gotta realize attractive woman have way more options than men do and are more willing to explore those options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:57 PM
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Please explain for me what it is I don't get instead of making a stupid snide remark. I actually explained how you are wrong and you respond with "you really don't get it, do you?" 🤦‍♂️ I think you're the one who doesn't get it. Plus being a lesbian you probably don't understand the different dynamics between men and women if all you've ever dated is women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:45 PM
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😂😂😂 Okay well that's irrelevant. So you're under the impression that you can just make yourself magically be attracted to someone you're not attracted to? Or make that person attracted to you when they are not? The point is, we don't choose through volition or "free will" who or what we are attracted to. That's just biological determinism. Same thing goes for genuine desire/attraction, if it's not there any more you can't just magically fix it. If that was the case you wouldn't see as many divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:12 PM
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Umm yeah it does. I'm not talking about a single fight. You can tell when a woman has lost genuine burning desire for you and at that point that cannot be fixed or negotiated through couple's therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:01 PM
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Sure women are more likely to push for couples therapy. However this assumes the marriage can be fixed. You cannot negotiate genuine burning desire. If she has lost desire for you, no amount of couples therapy will fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:37 AM
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Yep. Women hate taking accountability for their poor decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:35 PM
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So you're admitting that women are shallow and care more about looks than what a man provides and or his personality. You literally said most men are undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:31 PM
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But feminists will tell you women don't have any of those physical limitations you speak of and can do everything a man can do. Even though there is literally zero woman in the type of work I do that involves a lot of physical labor. How is this not an example of wanting equality when it benefits you and when it doesn't you want acces to traditional gender roles? So it's just about bodily autonomy then? Btw I'm pro choice and fully support women's bodily rights. I live in a red state where they …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:11 PM
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Most red pill podcasters tell men to not get married altogether. As marriage is high risk low reward for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:45 PM
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You already have equal rights in the West. Equal treatment? That would entail doing all the same hard, physically demanding, dangerous, violent jobs that men do. That's equal treatment. What you want is special treatment not equal treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:00 PM
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No pill is telling men that spinning plates is the end all be all. Most men would simply like to be in an LTR. Spinning plates is simply a response to something women have already been doing. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:45 AM
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Equal in what way? Equal as in you're going to start doing all the jobs that maintain the infrastructure of society? Or not that kind of equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:53 AM
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When women are dating multiple men at the same time (which many do) how is that not spinning plates?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:55 PM
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"I’m sure there are some good men out there but it’s become way to difficult to find them as I think most are becoming brainwashed by the red pill community to expect an unrealistic standard from women." Unrealistic standard from women? 🤦‍♂️ So when women are literally asked what they want in a man and they reply with: at least 6ft tall, $100k - $1mill income, great body, good looking, provider/protector, charismatic, pay for all the dates, be chivalrous, be confident, be sociable, ........ The …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:26 PM
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What's 4B?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:30 PM
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I mean you literally want something (marriage) while simultaneously stating that all men are sh*t. Why pursue something that you yourself don't even believe in?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:39 PM
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So you sound like you're pretty anti men then. Men have no good reason in your eyes to not want to get married? Then by your logic women have terrible judgment if they are the ones who are picking a bunch of shitty men and then divorcing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:01 PM
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Can you blame men for not wanting marriage nowadays? You're acting like we have no good reasons to feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:10 AM
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What age of women in your precious little studies there? I guarantee you if you look at older women they are not happier with their "solitude."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:38 AM
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Wow there's a lot wrong with your comment there. I'll just touch on one of your statements. "Marriage is one-sided against men." Ugh yeah, how is that not true? Tell me what a man benefits from marriage that he cannot get from a long term relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:01 AM
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Yeah but instead of the government simply lowering our taxes by spreading them out amongst a larger population, they'll just take even more out in taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:48 AM
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Ahh so you do like the dumb meat heads? Further confirming red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:43 AM
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So you fell for the good looking guy who was a liar and an asshole? You can blame the guy to some extent, but you also have to take accountability for poor judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:38 AM
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Because in both of those instances women weren't fighting to the death. You're making an equivocation fallacy. I'm so glad you think men dying in war is the same as the women's suffrage movement. "Whoever was willing to go?" 🤦‍♂️. Yeah your country would have been overrun immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:40 PM
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I'm not saying women didn't contribute to a support role, but you don't get to rewrite history. If you were the president or prime Minister of a country and had to send men or women to the front lines to defend your country who would you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:44 PM
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So you don't think it's possible for a patriarchal society to take all of those rights away? Clearly you have never been to the Middle East or North Korea. Those people there should just "enforce" their own rights according to you. Get back to me when that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:28 PM
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Wow, where did I say black people or women were not equal to white people or men? Nice strawman fallacy, clearly didn't read my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:11 PM
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I don't have a problem with any of that. However your hardcore feminists will tell you you're wrong in being the "weaker" sex. They'll advocate for all of those things you mentioned and then say they're still the stronger sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:56 AM
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I guess what I'm saying is, you seem to want "special rights" not equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:47 AM
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Well you stated for women to achieve equality they would need more rights. Your words. What further rights would you need and then we can address whether or not this would infringe on men's rights (same rights as yours.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:46 AM
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Let me rephrase my question. What "more" rights would women need to be equal? Without taking away freedom from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:41 AM
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What "more" rights do you think women need without infringing on men's rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:59 AM
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Cool. Glad to know no men were needed in securing your rights. All that was needed was socialization, societal expectations, fear, community, and resources. We should just tell women in Saudi Arabia that's all they need to get their rights. Sounds easy peasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:15 AM
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So would we have won the wars if we flipped the script and men stayed home and "worked in the factories" and women went off to die in the war? You're being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:10 AM
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Once again, you keep dodging my question as to why women in patriarchal countries don't just enforce their own rights. You won't answer it because you know it will prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:06 AM
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No, not for a very long time. That is a relatively recent thing. This is why companies started allowing women to join the workforce after the World Wars because most of the men had to go fight in the war. Women have never been drafted into a war, at least not in the West. I never said war was an achievement, it should be avoided at all costs. But if it comes to defending your country you don't really have much of a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:04 AM
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Okay you're right, the men should leave the front line and be replaced by women. Clearly women have more experience in fighting wars than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:55 AM
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Once again, why are there patriarchal societies then? Do you think women in these countries like being subjugated? If your answer is no, then why don't they just enforce their own rights? For the record, I never said women should not have equal rights, I have a wife and daughter that I want to have every right that I do. I'm simply pointing out that women's suffrage, women's rights protests were not fought by women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:54 AM
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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:47 AM
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Then why don't women in the patriarchal societies I mentioned just enforce their own rights then? Yes, women are a protected class as I clearly stated. This only happens in gynocentric societies. Your comment about "weak women" and "weak men" having no rights is missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:46 AM
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Wow. So much wrong here. First off, rights are only as impactful to the extent that they are enforced. Women cannot enforce their own rights. They rely on men to do so. If they could then women in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or Iran would just enforce their own rights. Clearly they can't because those are in fact patriarchal societies. In the West we live in a gynocentric society where women are the protected class. Now mind you, I am not advocating for taking women's rights away or anything of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:35 AM
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You know how many times I've seen women beat on men (including family members) and the men just sit there and take it because "you're never allowed to hit a woman" and this goes widely unreported. Why? Because no one will take the man seriously, he will be laughed at, he will be embarrassed, or he will just flat out be unbelieved. But yes, all men are rapists, sexual assaulters, domestic abusers, etc 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:47 PM
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And will settle for men that you end up resenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:42 PM
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Then reality would have to change. You do realize there are red pill "truths" that are based in evolutionary psychology? These things don't just change overnight when they have been with us for 100s of thousands of years. For example, there are evolutionary reasons why women prefer a taller man even though there is no selective pressures for it nowadays. Yet woman will almost unanimously all say they want a man that's taller than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:38 PM
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Cool, so there's nothing wrong if men were the ones filing for divorce 80% of the time. They were just the ones "filing the papers."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:47 AM
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Of course not. What I'm saying is, women get to reject this guy, that guy, put this one in the friend zone, etc. until the one she perceives as the best comes along. You're a fool if you don't think how this is how female dating strategy works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:39 AM
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Yes it's been demonstrated by science that women pick the most "fit" men. This is supported by evolutionary psychology as well. This is also clearly observed in dating apps where all the women "select" the same 20% of men and the other 80% of men are invisible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:36 AM
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Then why did you make the argument that married men live longer without demonstrating any reason why? I gave you my reason, you just didn't like it. You think being married just "magically" makes a man live longer. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:28 AM
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First off, I'm married. Second off, you literally said women are constantly pursuing men by waiting for them to ask them out. 😂😂😂 That's literally the opposite of pursuing. Waiting for a guy to ask you out is not pursuing him. WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:24 AM
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My source is that women are the ones choosing who they marry. Men don't have options like you do. Men don't get pursued like you do. We take what we can get. Women are simply picking the most "fit" men and then saying men live longer who are married. No, you're just not picking the unhealthy, poor, homeless, diseased, obese, drug addicted scumbags. Has nothing to do with being married. Do you think George Clooney or Leo Dicaprio who are both unmarried are going to live shorter lives because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:12 AM
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Then you have some serious psychological issues. You stayed with a piece of sh*t man that didn't work and physically hurt you and you still wanted it to be difficult for you to leave? That's called Stockholm syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:07 AM
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Ahh so it's all the men's faults for women initiating 80% of divorces? Then why are women picking such sh*tty men then? Sounds like poor judgment to me. It couldn't possibly be that women benefit from divorce far more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:05 AM
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What should we call it then when a man loses everything? Loses custody to his kids, loses all his money, loses his house, loses his assets, pays alimony to his ex for the rest of his life? We can call it the divorce slaughterhouse if that makes you feel better?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:58 AM
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Ah the ole study that men are happier, live longer who are married. No, women just select men who are healthier, not alcoholics, not drug addicts, who are not morbidly obese, who have a steady income/job, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:52 AM
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This is not about some male "hivemind." 🤦‍♂️ This is about statistics. You would still want to get married if you knew men were initiating 80% of divorces? Sounds like you like high risk relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:41 AM
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As someone who is married I think you have a very naive unrealistic view of marriage. First off, women don't love unconditionally. They only love a man based upon what he provides. You're not going to keep "loving" him if he refuses to find a job, becomes morbidly obese, and sits at home all day and plays video games with cheetoh dust on his fingers. You also didn't answer my question. If he becomes toxic a year into the marriage, do you want it to be difficult for YOU to leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:38 AM
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So he has to share your exact vision of love that only marriage=love? You're under the impression that marriage guarantees that you will never leave him or he will never leave you. You just want it to be hard for him to exit the relationship. Let me ask you this, if you got married to a man that you loved and he ends up turning toxic a year into the marriage, do you want it to be difficult for you to leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:30 AM
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Would you want to get married if you knew men were the ones initiating 80% of the divorces? If your answer is no, then you know how men feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:25 AM
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Women from "back in the day's" reach extended to her social group and that was about it. Nowadays women's reach can extend all over the world with the advent of instagram, only fans, social media, etc. A man from "back in the day" had no problem buying dinner for a woman when he didn't have to worry about her having her DMs flooded on instagram, snapchat, Facebook, wherever. Women having more options "nowadays" will automatically cause men to be more hesitant to take them out to dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:40 AM
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Come back when women have to be the first to die in wars, do dangerous jobs, violent jobs, physically laborous jobs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:28 PM
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What's your explanation then for why women were drawn to Ted Bundy, Charles Manson and other serial killer types who were imprisoned and literally had nothing to offer these women? You either have to acknowledge that there is a part of women that is attracted to that "evilness" or "dark traits" or just say "all those women were crazy" or had "poor judgment." The phenomenon exists nonetheless. These women knew exactly who these men were, what they did, and what they were capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 02:05 AM
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By your own words you're cool with men getting destroyed in divorce courts. So we're in agreement that men should steer clear from getting married nowadays 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 01:52 AM
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Wow! You really hate men. I hope you're okay with men making as many assumptions about women as you do about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 01:47 AM
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None of which married is required for. A shoulder to to bear his concerns and fears too? We all know how that goes when a man is emotionally vulnerable with a woman. Also, why are you calling yourself a purple pilled woman when you clearly want the trad con lifestyle based upon what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:30 PM
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Prenups are broken all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:22 PM
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But it's okay for a guy to give everything away for free in divorce? Glad to know you're okay with having a safety net in divorce but not him. Totally consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:22 PM
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So only a ring, marriage license, and a voodoo ritual called a wedding implies commitment? Was he not already committed to you before you married him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:56 PM
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So if he doesn't want his future wife running away with his money if divorce ever happens isn't a logical reason for him to not want to get married, but it is a logical reason for you? You're being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:46 PM
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If you get the ring, what does he get? And don't say he gets you. If women are the "prize" what does that make him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:33 PM
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You can't blame him for not wanting to get married again when his first wife screwed him over. That's just going to put a sour taste in his mouth for future marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:53 PM
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Women absorb the most risk? Really? So guys don't get pulled through the divorce slaughterhouse? You absorb the most risk perhaps when it comes to having a baby, but that doesn't necessarily translate to absorbing the most risk in a relationship in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:33 AM
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Cool! So you acknowledge that men have it harder than women when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:35 PM
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At least you're being honest that you're using the man as an ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:59 AM
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Sure, I completely agree. But having full effort from both parties doesn't require the man marrying you. If that meant anything the divorce rate wouldn't be as high as it is. Marriage doesn't guarantee that you will get "full effort" from your husband. It just guarantees that you will have a legal safety net to fall back on if the marriage goes south. That's the true reason why you want a man to marry you if you were going to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 02:09 PM
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So having a child is transactional for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:20 AM
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Just out of curiosity, if you and your husband split up would you be cool with him taking half of your income? You paying him child support, etc? After all he's not in the workforce so it's only fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:26 AM
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Sure it is. How a man makes you feel is irrelevant if you're not even physically attracted to him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:28 AM
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Because tradcons are never consistent in anything they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:20 PM
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No, you're just wrong again. Christian women have far more abortions than Atheists do. 7 out of 10 women who have had an abortion identify as Christian. https://research.lifeway.com/2021/12/03/7-in-10-women-who-have-had-an-abortion-identify-as-a-christian/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:16 AM
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So you're opposed to sex education? Are you one of those "abstinence only" types of sex education guys. Are you aware of the fact that the majority of women who get abortions are in fact Christians. Clearly "abstinence only" sex education doesnt work. Please explain for me then why countries in northern Europe have some of the lowest abortion rates in the world while abortion is legal there with few restrictions? Outlawing abortion doesn't do anything to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:13 AM
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What's your point? All states where it is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:37 PM
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🤣🤣 What? Check your stats bro. I believe 9 out of 10 of the state's with the highest rates of abortion are red states.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:48 PM
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Sure, you could say the goal of life is to survive and procreate. But that is looking at life from a purely biological nuts and bolts point of view. Science is descriptive not prescriptive. Just because women have the ability to bare children doesn't mean they should. That is the naturalistic fallacy. Science tells us what IS the case not what we OUGHT to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:39 PM
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So why in the case of incest or rape do you "empathize" with the mother? If you truly believe the fetus's life supercedes the mother's it shouldn't matter if it was conceived through incest or rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:46 AM
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Who gets to decide what defines personhood? We already went over this. That's why bodily autonomy is the strongest argument. You yourself even agree with it in regards to rejecting what the hardline pro lifers believe. You think it should be the mother's decision to take an abortifacient drug to abort a zygote, not the hardline pro lifers decision or the state. Once again, why does the fetus's "bodily autonomy" supercede the mother's?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:38 PM
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Ahh so you're not going to answer my question about the embryos in the burning building? Gotcha, better take the loss on this one. Yes, Jim Crow was immoral. That set a precedent for the law to change. But you're assuming that the law automatically reflects our morality. Not the case, as I already gave you two examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:32 PM
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You dont care? Why are we having this conversation then? Also life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Sure right to life, just not at the expense of another person's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:37 PM
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Yes, laws trump morals. Is it it immoral to commit adultery? Yes, is it illegal? No. Many people find smoking marijuana as immoral. Is it legal in many states, yes. You clearly dont know what the fuck you're talking about. I did answer your question about demolishing the building. I answered it with another question about embryos which you failed to respond too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:35 PM
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Sure you drew an invisible line. You're just drawing the line further down than the hard line pro lifers. They would call you a murderer in their eyes. If it's an "unknowable answer" according to you the person who bears the most responsibility (the mother) has no say according to you. The state should ultimately be the one who decides whether she remains pregnant or is allowed to abort. That's seems pretty authoritarian to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:25 AM
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Yeah except there is nothing analogous to being pregnant in regards to your vaccine comment. The morality of whether you believe the parents should have to donate the organs or not is irrelevant to me. People's moral views often informed by religion is irrelevant to me. I'm concerned about the legality which you already acknowledged that a 5 year old doesn't have the right. People might find it immoral if you dont donate an organ, tissue, etc. to a stranger who might need it. But at the end of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:20 AM
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So let me get this straight, to you: Zygote: not a person and therefore can be discarded Fetus: person, and therefore has a right to it's mother's body. 5 year old: person, but doesnt have a right to its mother's body for it's survival. Do you not see how your position makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:34 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 So you just arbitrarily draw a line in the sand and say it magically becomes human at some point? Bringing up other developmental characteristics later on in gestation is only going to make your position even more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:30 PM
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No, no, no, 🤦‍♂️ My scenario doesn't involve trading live's or someone dying either way. Let me give you an example, a 5 year old might need a kidney or bone marrow from their mother (blood match) or father. This does not result in the donor dying by providing this. Under the law, those parents are not legally obligated to donate those organs to save their child's life. You dont see the problem, that a 5 year old doesn't have this right, but a fetus does? According to you, once a baby is born th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:27 PM
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Dude, your logic is all over the place. First off you claim that a 5 year old doesnt have a right to it's mother's organs for its survival, you haven't explained why. Second off, you do realize under your pro life position that fertilized egg that gets flushed out as a result of the morning after pill, is a person in your eyes. Why isnt that murder according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:16 PM
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I believe that's where Roe v Wade sets the legal limit at (viability.) Despite what you may believe late term abortions are very rare. 92% of abortions happen in like the first 12 weeks or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:13 PM
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Why does a 5 year old not have this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:10 PM
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I'll answer your question with a question. Do you support abortifacient birth control drugs? Like the morning after pill which can prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:09 PM
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Answer my question. Does a 5 year old have a legal right to it's mother's organs for its survival? You wont answer this, because you know it will cause more logical problems for your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:05 PM
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What are you talking about? Literally go read the last sentence of your previous comment. You talked about an infant being dependent upon their parents bodies for resources and protection. You brought it up, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:03 PM
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Using your logic, a parent should be morally and legally obligated to donate their organs to save their 5 year old's life. If a 5 year old doesnt have the right to it's mother's organs, why should a fetus? Seems like you're arbitrarily drawing lines in the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:52 PM
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Wrong. Yes children are dependent on their parents (not bodies) for resources and protection. When a child is born you have a social and legal contract to be the caretaker of that child. If you fail to provide this, social services can take your child away from you. The problem is, in your example a child is not EXCLUSIVELY dependent upon their parents bodies. Another person can be perfectly capable of taking care of that child. When a woman is pregnant pre viability that fetus is exclusively de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:48 PM
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Here's the thing, this ultimately boils down to s conflict of rights. Hypothetically, let's say a zygote/embryo/fetus is as full fledged human being with rights intact. Why does the fetus have a right to use someone's body for it's survival, but no one else? That's advocating for special rights not equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:00 PM
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See that's the problem, you're focused on when life begins, or when does consciousness begin, or when does the nervous system develop, or when can it feel pain/suffer, etc. Those are all valid questions. Except no one is going to agree on what defines "personhood." As that is a religious/philosophic belief not a scientific endeavor. That's why I dont base my pro choice views on any of those things. I base it upon bodily autonomy. I believe no one has a right to use your body without your consent…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:44 PM
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"Serve one master?" Who's their master? Cant wait for this to take a dive into conspiranoid Qanon nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:33 AM
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No, not all taxation is equal. The super fuckin rich should be paying hella more taxes. Especially when we've found out through the pandora papers, leaked IRS files, and other sources that they have been dodging taxes for years. You've got the richest man in human history Elon Musk who made 36 Billion dollars in one day and all he could do was complain about his taxes being too high. Let's not forget Zuckerberg, Bezos, Musk, Buffet, and others made billions during the pandemic while the rest of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:27 AM
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Ahh you're one of the "taxation is theft idiots?" I guess we should get rid of law enforcement, firefighters, infrastructure, public schools, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Food stamps, Wic, Forest Fire Services, EMTs, just to name a few. Because that's all just socialism right? You're such a joke. George Carlin summed you pro life idiots up perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:12 AM
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I see you didn't answer any of my questions. Too focused on what I call it (baby, fetus, embryo, zygote.) You believe in special rights, not equal rights. Also, how am I a coward? I'm married and have a wonderful child of my own and have never had to have an abortion. I just dont think the government should be able to dictate what you do with your body. You're in favor of BIG government.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:04 AM
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And Republicans haven't done dick to lower taxes for the working middle class. Whereas Democrats actually provide the social programs necessary for those who need it. Your argument would only make sense if Republicans actually lowered our taxes, but that's just another lie you have been fed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:59 AM
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Cool, so fully fledged human at birth correct? So why are you advocating for special rights for zygotes/embryos/fetus's then? If they're fully human at conception why does no other human get to use another person's body for their survival, just fetuses? That's special rights not equal rights. Also, if fully human at conception, should a man also have to pay child support from the beginning of conception? After all that baby/mother needs a roof over her head, food, access to healthcare, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:55 AM
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Your best policy was taxes? 🤣🤣🤣 When have Republicans lowered taxes for the middle class? Under Trump's 2017 Tax Reform Bill, 83% of the tax cuts went to the top 1%. The middle class got screwed again because another Republican bought into the fairy tale idea of trickle down economics. Just like I thought, you have ZERO examples of any Republican policies that help mothers and babies after birth. What a douche 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:49 AM
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So you are a Christian based upon your idiotic response. Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:29 AM
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No, I brought it up to point out the hypocrisy in claiming to support the mother's bodily rights only in cases of rape, incest, or endangerment of the life of the mother. Why doesn't the fetus reign supreme in these situations for you as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:28 AM
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I completely disagree on it being the "safest moral position to take if you have no idea when human existence actually starts." It's a matter of bodily autonomy. Pro lifers claim they value "right to life" more. Whereas a pro choicer will value bodily autonomy more. You can claim you have a right to life all you want, just not at the expense of another person's body. Also, bringing a soul and religion into the argument has no bearing on the legality. I dont care what your fairy tale religious be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:38 AM
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Nope, if you look at red counties in the US they have far higher rates of cases and deaths due to COVID. There's also a positive correlation to them being less vaccinated as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:30 AM
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A cursory google search reveals red states have higher divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:26 AM
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Dont forget Republicans are dying at a rate 6 times more than Democrats due to COVID. They dont care that they are killing off their own voter base.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:49 AM
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Where do you draw the line ethically? No abortions, no exceptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:47 AM
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Haha Haha, name one policy put forth by the Republican party that helps a woman or baby after it is born. This should be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:41 AM
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I'm assuming you're a Christian correct? If so, your own fairy tale book says life doesn't begin until it takes its first breath of out of the womb. But I'm sure you'll conveniently ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative. Do I need to mention how the Bible endorses abortions too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:37 AM
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I didn't know an embryo was a child 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:33 AM
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You do realize many of these restrictive abortion laws being passed by Republicans dont even include exceptions for things like incest, rape, or if the mother's life is in danger? Yeah you guys are really pro life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:25 AM
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Huh? If they are "high quality women" they can leave at any time with more options as well. Especially when we know women initiate 7 out of 10 divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:42 AM
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So you're in favor of traditional gender roles? If so, do you consider yourself a feminist as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:31 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 02:35 PM
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True. Most Christians dont even know half the shit their Bible says.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:00 AM
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I mean most members of Congress are Christian so......? No power though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:51 AM
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Are they not intertwined? I mean we got a lot of Christian nationalism going on in the US right now which is a religio-political movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:28 AM
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And similar surveys were done showing how conservative Christians dont know dick about other world religions despite believing they "got the correct one." 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:20 AM
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So Democrats are so incompetent that they cant run a country, but they are smart enough to "magically steal" an election and not get caught? Okay Mike Lindell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:16 AM
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Ahh more "stolen election nonsense." You do realize Trump said the same shit in 2016 when he lost the popular vote by 2 million votes? He claimed it was 2 million dead people/illegal immigrants from California who voted for Hillary. Only to hire a private investigation team to look into this and found ZERO evidence. But Trump continued to parrot this nonsense even though it was thoroughly debunked. You Trumpers will literally believe anything he tells you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:13 AM
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Ahh let us not forget Trump and his party buddy Epstein who brutally raped a 13 year old girl. Only to have the allegations dropped because said girl received death threats. (Nobody parties with a prolific sex trafficker unless they want one thing.) Or the other 26 women who have alleged that Trump either sexually assaulted/raped them. Or Dump's first wife who claimed he raped her. Trump responding with "there is no such thing as spousal rape." But you'll just respond with that's fake news. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:07 AM
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Which party was opposed to same sex marriage? Which party largely is opposed to same sex couples being able to adopt a child? Which party is opposed to trans individuals being in the military? Which party is opposed to trans individuals having access to certain types of health care? Which party has all sorts of ridiculous early gestation abortion bans in red states? Dude the list goes on and on. Your party has a terrible track record of violating individual's basic human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:59 PM
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