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This conversation isn’t even about whether it’s okay, it’s about whether it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:15 AM
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Already preparing the ad hominem not even 3 replies deep? By your own logic deliberately misleading and dehumanizing women is okay as long as you don’t believe you’re hurting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:12 AM
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First of all you said “rules” not “laws” which is a pretty important distinction. Secondly, who says you aren’t hurting anyone? Do you think laws exist for no reason? You are making the argument for women favoring bad boys without even realizing it. The whole point of breaking the law is that you have decided that you are above them for some reason or another. In that case it would be because you’ve convinced yourself that the consequences of you breaking the rules cannot hurt anyone, which is j…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:57 AM
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A man who ignores the rules to his own benefit is not a bad boy? Do you even hear yourself? It sounds like you are just morphing the definition of bad boy to be whatever supports your argument, as opposed to the one that everyone else who uses it means within common parlance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:46 AM

Women can’t imagine liking a guy without getting some kind of social validation for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 04:16 PM
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I'm confused why you think women are entitled to free services. It would be one thing if you were arguing that it would be beneficial for the clubs because it brings in more men, but now you seem to be implying that clubs should do it even if it doesn't. How does the club benefit in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:11 PM
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How highly you think of yourself is pretty immaterial to the quality of women you have access to, it just makes it easier to seduce women you don't know. Pretty much all of the guys in my close friend group are way more attractive than me but half of them have very little confidence, and they all end up dating attractive women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 06:57 PM
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Check the population pyramid, try to match it with the men/women single ratio for the given age groups and come back with the results. I have no idea what you're trying to say. Population figures are relatively similar in each age group. It is not possible to explain this with women dating older men unless you say 20-30yo women dating 70+ yo men Huh? If each female age group dates 5-10 years older than them then by the time you reach 65 the women run out of older men to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 02:14 AM
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More young men are single because young women are dating older men. Older women are significantly more likely to be single than older men, and it's not cause old dudes are fucking eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:30 AM
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I only approach women at the club so it's not perfectly applicable to what you're saying, but when I approach their responses vary from "this man has offended my entire bloodline by daring to talk to me" to "I'm going to stick my tongue down this mans throat at the soonest possible opportunity." I imagine the responses are somewhat similar if you try to approach in public places as well, but less extreme at each end of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:33 PM
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The point is you don't get credit for those bare minimum things that are expected out of everyone in a relationship, just like how men don't. The only other thing that a woman really has to do to find a decent man is not be fat, and even that isn't necessary if the woman's standards aren't inflated. You can argue that men should have higher standards but the reality is that if they did there would be even more single young men than there already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 06:12 PM
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I don't see how any of that explains why certain men having a preference means there's "something wrong" with your relationship and lifestyle. Most of the men who show strong, overt interest in me in my everyday life come across as "traditional" men who are looking for a housewife and/or "traditional" woman. Just because your superficial characteristics are appealing to their traditional values doesn't mean your lifestyle choices will be. It's entirely possible that as soon as they realized you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:35 AM
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You are not a traditional woman and you know that. Am I a traditional woman? If not, what is wrong with my relationship and lifestyle? Why do you take other people's preferences as an attack against you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:03 AM
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When someone refers to a traditional woman they are still referring to a woman with certain qualities that people generally agree on. Also there are plenty of traditional women, you just live in a bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:16 AM
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There are more mad hoes than mad incels but the mad incels are WAY more mad than the mad hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:58 PM
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So you think they should be banned for using the term moid? Is that it? Because that's not why the mens subs you mentioned were banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:15 PM

PinkPillDebate and GenderCritical were both banned for the same reasons as the Incel subs. What subs are even around that you think deserve to be banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 06:22 AM

Those are not communities that represent entire genders. It's fair to say that insular Red Pill communities lead to more radicalized beliefs of its members if you fundamentally disagree with TRP. It's not fair to say that about /r/askindianwomen or /r/askindianmen unless you fundamentally disagree with Indian women as a whole or Indian men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 06:16 AM

Gendered backstage discourse has always existed and is a necessary part of the dynamics of intragender relations. It's not really fair to say they are creating hate out of thin air when they exist specifically to address the issues each group already believes in. Also if an entire gender seemingly agrees on certain things about the other gender it seems like that should be a sign to listen and maybe introspect instead of getting upset about the way they perceive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:44 AM

Why are you visiting communities where only one sex is allowed to respond if you're going to be upset that only one sex responds?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:31 AM
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The entire nice guys vs bad boys debate is just men and women talking past each other. Normal women don't want guys who just got out of prison and they also don't want guys that will project illusory boundaries that prevent them from expressing sufficient interest in them. In dating and in life the secret is to be just Machiavellian enough to further your personal goals without sacrificing social standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 07:22 PM
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The conclusions from the study don't make any sense. They used a completely different metric for the self-perceived ratings than they did for the ratings of others and then used that to make the claim that men think they are more attractive than they are. All they had to do was include the ratings of others for "natural beauty" which is what they told individuals to use for themselves, but they didn't, even though it was part of the judge's scores. That almost makes me think it was a deliberate …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:24 PM
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The gender ratio isn't big enough to explain such a big gap in single men and women at that age. They are getting with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:24 AM
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Considering only 21% of men 65 or older are single compared to 49% of women it seems like a lot of women need older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:09 PM
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It's a pretty basic concept that newborn babies with undeveloped immune systems will be at a greater risk if said immune system is not exposed to any kinds of germs before being exposed to a major illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:05 PM
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If women came out and said "I have high standards and will stay single until someone meets them" I think there would be far fewer discussions in places like this. The problem is the number of women who claim to have low standards ("the bar is in hell") but somehow consistently manage to date the same shitty men because of their superficial characteristics. Then when men who don't have those superficial characteristics complain they get told that it must be because of the shitty behaviors of men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:58 PM
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Bro needs a source for germ theory
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:46 PM
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One example is I've always been a very forward person so I would just ask women things directly, which works very well for some things and very poorly for others. If you're asking a girl to dance it works really well, if it's the end of the night and you're asking them if they want to leave with you it doesn't work very well at all, unless you've met up with them multiple times. Another example of subtle behavior is how quickly you escalate. Sometimes I would be too conservative and the girl wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:47 PM
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I was depressed throughout my teenage years and all the way up to around the age of 25. Because of this I had no confidence and little experience with women. Then eventually my depression started to get a lot better and one day I started going to the club with my friends. The atmosphere motivated me to try to get laid since I had only had sex once in my life up to that point. Long story short I struggled at first because I didn't know how to attract the right kind of women and kept getting led o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:06 AM
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Isn't it way more likely that there simply exist two different classifications of "passport bros"? One that just wants easy sex with women who are lured in by a transactional relationship and one who actually prefers women with a certain personality? It's not like all passport bros end up with Asian women, it seems like just as many (if not more) end up with central/south American women. And there's a similar perception of them as well from a submissiveness and femininity standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:08 AM
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Men and women both have the exact same amount of control over whether a kid is created. Women just exercise their choice later in the process. Love how you just instantly contradicted yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:48 AM
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Rapes result in a tiny portion of all pregnancies, so women and men share 50% of the responsibility for a pregnancy. Once the pregnancy happens women then control 100% of whether it turns into a baby. Therefore women are 100% responsible for the consequences of said babies existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:32 AM
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The woman has 100% legal control over the child even existing so she is solely responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:48 PM
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They don't need to see you again, which is the point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:37 PM
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Right, and OPs post was about the couples where that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:57 PM
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If you think expecting nuance out of people means you hate them you must really hate yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:05 PM
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It's actually perfectly on topic if you are terminally online in these communities enough to read between the lines lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:21 PM
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10% of divorces isn't that rare and the conversation is already about men getting divorced by women who they outearn so not sure why you keep trying to dismiss it with that line.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:08 AM
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Alimony is not child support and women do not have to seek more than 50/50 custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:36 AM
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No they don't? You are divorced and they do nothing for you anymore but if they qualify for alimony you still have to pay them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:15 AM
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That depends on if you live in a community property state or a common law state, it's a good idea to look up the law before signing a marriage contract. It doesn't matter which state you live in because most married people's net worths are in their mortgages which is pretty much always going to have both spouses names on it unless one of them owned it before the got married. By keep paying are you talking about alimony? 9/10 of divorces don't qualify for that. Because men typically don't marry w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:14 AM
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Things you "owned and bought with your partner" that you paid for 80% of. Then you have to KEEP paying for them afterwards because they got too used to the life you provided for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:55 AM
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A woman who will actually embrace a more traditional gender role in a relationship. In America women like that are now more uncommon than they have ever been but they are still considered very high value, so if you want one your options are compete for them here where the competition is far more difficult or go somewhere else where it's you that has the advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:10 AM
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If you are American and don't like American women why would you keep trying to find someone here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:16 AM
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Because most men have no concept of male beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:07 AM
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The boyfriend posted it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:04 PM
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Women receive attention from men with higher SMV than them constantly so when a man who is actually in her league gives them attention it means nothing to them. Conversely the average man can go his whole life without receiving any attention from women unless he approaches them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:51 PM
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"Women do this every day so men shouldn't be impressed by it but also women who do this are pick mes" Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:48 PM
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If women could date the hottest guys they've hooked up with, they would. Those men are too high value for them though so they settle for referring to their fuck buddies as "situationships" as a simulacrum for a relationship with a man out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:48 PM
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The guys who care the least about making women climax are the ones who end up having the most sex with women. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:31 PM

I routinely purchased expensive clothes, spent money on dating app boosts, hundreds on professional photographers, dinner dates at nice restaurants which didn’t lead anywhere. None of these things make women like you more, they just signal that you are potentially willing to spend money on them. You can't buy respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:17 PM
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I guarantee you there is no "data" that shows women are less interested in hooking up than they were in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:45 AM
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YOU have no idea what you're talking about. I assume you aren't from America but here it's relatively common for men to find women from poor countries and marry them, whereas women doing the same is extremely rare. You are basing your entire view on your own observed experiences and assuming it applies to a term that wasn't even invented for the type of person you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:43 PM
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A passport bro isn't a guy who gets manipulated by a woman online into traveling to meet them in eastern europe. It's a guy who travels to poor countries for sex or to find a wife because he knows he has a higher SMV in those places. The reason "passport sisters" are not talked about is because they basically do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 10:53 PM
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He slept with a different girl under basically identical circumstances once before, so I doubt thirst was an issue. I've also never actually seen him ask a girl to dance directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:37 PM
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I don't think women overwhelmingly don't want hookups, they just don't have a reason to do it spontaneously anymore because they can get it basically anytime they want. This applies to high value men as well. Not too long ago I was at the club and this girl threw herself at my friend and he danced with her but wasn't actually that into her even though she was pretty cute. She almost definitely would have slept with him if he wanted to but he decided to just call his fuck buddy over to his place …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:35 PM
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The top 20% of men receive disproportionately more attention but that doesn't mean the other 80% are completely fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:21 PM

Most people can't even agree on what is or isn't alpha or beta behavior so developing new categories to make the distinction even more nebulous seems pretty unfruitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:10 AM

I'm pretty sure Hinge is uniquely particularly bad because the few times I've made accounts on there it starts out showing me exclusively extremely attractive women and then starts to adjust. Most users probably just use their initial swipes on them, skewing the numbers further in the favor of those attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:28 PM
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What I find fascinating is how so many blue pill people on here will respond with arguments that don't actually address what the person said. You just made a random ad hominem attack and used it as an opportunity to feign superiority while providing nothing relevant to what the OP actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:21 PM
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Not sure why so many people on here try to choose extreme outlier examples to support their positions. Yes, the very high SMV couldn't get everything he wanted out of the EXTREMELY high SMV woman. That doesn't support the argument you are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:04 PM
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They definitely don't unless they make decent money and are dating broke women who are using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:49 PM
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The ugly guys can't get hot crazy chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:47 PM
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Your guys' first example is already one that only applies to the most attractive men who have the luxury of dating attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 04:29 PM
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