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5' 0", lol. Can't really do above 5' 10" without getting a permanent sore neck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 01:44 AM
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I've dated men who are 5' 5".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 01:28 AM
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Some people who spend 60+ hours a week at work, I can understand because they have so little free time to date otherwise. But not Joe Schmoe working 40 hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 04:11 PM
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I think that the problem people run into is some women want to be treated like agender robots in the workforce, and then suddenly like hyper feminine sexual creatures when they leave work. This can be deeply confusing, even in long standing relationships. Related anecdote: When I'm at work, I'm a complete hardass, bossy, and I have zero issue pointing out mistakes. My boyfriend finds it a little unnerving how quickly I switch from this assertive bastard to his soft, mushy girlfriend as soon as I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 03:55 PM
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Betrayal at the House on the Hill is a great game with incredible replay value
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 03:47 PM
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Like 2 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 10:54 AM
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You could just order it and use it anyways as body wash. I bought my boyfriend dog products that I use at work, now he smells like furminator shampoo and conditioner all the time :D
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:54 PM
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Chris Evans is my 10/10. Yes. I really like that combination of facial features (thick brows, light eyes, straight nose, wide mouth / full lips), and I'm not gonna complain that it's on a 6 foot frame that's broad shouldered and muscular (although I generally prefer men to be shorter because I'm so short). I've always had this type.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:48 PM
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Purple pill, neutral good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:42 PM
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My BF tells me no all the time, but it's a banter thing we share, so it doesn't bother me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 12:43 PM
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Pheromone boosted colognes do their job for me, it drives me crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 12:29 PM
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I know that the Yaris and Corolla models have really long lifespans and good cost of ownership scores, I think the Camry is similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 12:33 AM
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shrugs That's my interpretation of the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 12:30 AM
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Okay? Political stance /= pill status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 09:09 PM
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Red pilled women are submissive and feminine in behavior. I am neither, but I agree with many red pill concepts. Therefore, purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 08:07 PM
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I think the best intermediate resource to help transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy is nuclear, but everyone gets all weird because Chernobyl.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 07:53 PM
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I'm confused as to how I'm supposed to answer that. If you wanna join the NAWALT club that'd be dope, I like your comments too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 05:04 PM
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Agreeableness is more important than the other one, but neuroticism definitely increases the effect of agreeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 03:44 PM
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That's the scientific explanation of why I like your posts - I'm in the bottom 15th percentile for agreeableness (except I'm an ENFP, I just have the Fi value of "human beings are annoying and I want them to go the fuck away"). I bet a lot of the women who are here will test low in agreeableness (considering the average woman is around the 60th). We literally are NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 02:49 PM
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Preach. Disagreeable and low neuroticism women are more likely to be NAWALT (xxTx women, basically).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 02:28 PM
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Was it good before you fell asleep?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 02:25 PM
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Congrats on the marriage!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 12:28 PM
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Why aren't you having sex with girls who want to have sex with you? Why do they need convincing? Isn't the point of TRP to be hot enough that girls actually want you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 11:52 AM
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SJW feminists in my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 06:24 PM
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Because there are more reasons for a wage gap than men are stealing it from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 06:00 PM
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A CMV? How novel. Disappointed with the lack of NYT article, 2/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 05:47 PM
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Because at 17 you have a wealth of experience about how to run a household?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 05:39 PM
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That's pretty much what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:45 PM
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Red Pill girl game doesn't work too well for me. My BF is not into submissive girls at all, so my foray into RPW was not appreciated. What does work is being RP aware and then maximizing what makes him feel respected but still holding my ground as his equal. We operate best on a push-pull dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:11 AM
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That's awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:27 AM
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I see. I usually see AB and BF clumped together but I like your take on it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:32 PM
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You're fine!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:31 PM
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I agree, I just cared about the math being right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:25 PM
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It's not 1.6%. It's 1.6x. Big ol difference there. To quote you: If "Chad" is having sex 5 times a week, "Nice Guy" is having sex 4.92 times a week. If "Chad" is having sex 10 times a week, "Nice Guy" is having sex 8.4 times a week. If "Chad" is having sex ONE-HUNDRED times a week, "Nice Guy" is having sex 98.4 times per week. Becomes: Nice Guy = 5 times, Chad = 8 Nice Guy = 10 times, Chad = 16 Nice Guy = 100, Chad = 160.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:18 PM
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Red. Yellow leaning green? Red. Strong 6 w/o make up while wearing jeans and tee shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:10 PM
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Purple because I can answer both BP and RP questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:06 PM
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I would say that human beings were horrifically oppressed by nature, and were merely trying to survive. Men and women did what they had to in order to survive, and what worked so well to get us to this nice 1st world civilization we have is men going out, exploring, building, etc, and women tending the hearth and raising children. It's great that women have a choice now, but would it not make sense that the people who survived those circumstances were the ones who fit the roles best? So our gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 07:42 PM
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Isn't that alpha bucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 07:32 PM
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Exactly. We could blame other cultures for their crimes for eternity, or we can own that our shit stinks too and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:43 PM
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Unsolicited dick pics are how you get blocked. Solicited dick pics are fine. I like a nice looking penis as much as the next girl, but it's a vetting thing. If a guy can't wait for me to see his dick in person, he's probably also gonna be impatient to cum and sex will be bad. I need some self control in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 10:38 AM
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You think that it's ok for a woman to whore herself out to get something extra from a man, and then think men are "preying" on women when they don't succumb to the woman's tactics. No. I think it's sad when men and women are preyed upon by manipulative individuals. I think it's sad when a man is made a victim in his own marriage, and again sad when a woman is manipulated into sex. This isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:42 AM
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5 goddamn kids. Got any more soothsaying in you? I have another quarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:09 AM
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I finally met a Chow mix who didn't hate me on principle! It was a great feeling!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:45 PM
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When the slave trade was started it wasn't the US, it was the colonies. Many people went back and forth between the US and Mother England. How can you tell the difference between an evil Englishman and a good one? Secondly, many people came over after slavery had been abolished, and still continue to immigrate to the US. Do we blame John Oliver for all English American crime? What about the people who immigrated in the 20th century? Thirdly, you may personally not define yourself as "hating" any…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:45 PM
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No girls? Aww :(
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:34 PM
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So is it racist if someone specifically hates Iranians, not all brown people? If crime was specific to the English, then Great Britain would have insanely high crime rates. It doesn't. You actually sound like Hitler talking about the Jews. I know people throw "you're hitler!!" thing around a lot, but this is actually insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:28 PM
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Hmm. I suppose I'm doomed to get my children into hockey then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:18 PM
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Maybe a pinned post where he and Reven go at it with their different ethnic superiority platforms? Edit: Also are you the one that has a Chow Chow?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:16 PM
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For me I want to make sure the guy isn't trying to hide our relationship, so it's important to me to have our relationship up on FB once it's been an appropriate amount of time. So I fundamentally disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:13 PM
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You are aware that it's racist even if it's against white people, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:07 PM
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Woman. No. I don't want to have sex with or pretend to like undesirable older people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:05 PM
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Choosing a person to be your life partner should be the most discriminating act you undertake in your life. What I mean by that is you should easily spend more time investigating and mulling over the pros and cons of your partner than you would a house, a car, or a pet combined. So if you wanna be picky about religion? Be picky! Don't want to date someone with an N count over 10? It's your call! Insistent on a SAHParent or career partner? Don't settle! I think it's such bullshit when people say …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:59 PM
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What about an American woman who uses it unironically? Asking for a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:47 PM
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Men do not value each round of sex highly, they value having regular sex highly. Women value each round of sex highly, but care less about the frequency. Women do not value each round of commitment highly, they value having regular commitment highly. Men value each round of commitment highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:44 PM
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I'll mostly likely have to do this with my kids if I have them with the BF. He's an INTP and I'm an ENFP so there's a lot of potential for anti-social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:52 PM
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Men don't value sex that much. So we've left reality, got it. By the same token, I think it's men who value commitment more than women Yep, left reality. Nice talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 01:37 PM
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The man is giving up sex, in exchange for sex. No. Men don't give up sex, they earn sex. Average women aren't going around begging for fat dudes to fuck them, yet average men beg for obese women to fuck them because they're thirsty. If she wants his commitment, then she needs to give up her commitment as well. No. Women earn commitment. They show they're worthy of a man's resources. Women bitch about men not marrying, not the other way around. These are pretty basic concepts. If you think that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 12:08 PM
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Just because you're having sex for mutual enjoyment doesn't mean that the man stops getting more out of it the woman does. Therefore she's giving him something that she isn't getting from him. Edit: this is still true even with both parties orgasming. Pleasure has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:49 AM
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How is it sexist against men if I would consider trapping a man into a sexless marriage worse than if a man misled a woman about his willingness to commit? Edit: especially when I pointed out that the man is losing something too if he gives away his commitment for free. I made a fair argument that both sides have something to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:30 AM
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No. I think a woman tricking a man into committing to her is equally if not more reprehensible. But that's not the topic of the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:22 AM
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I might understand the ideas in your comments but never really understand where they’re coming from. A place of both cynicism and idealism. I truly believe people can be better than they are, but that they are likely to be predictably imperfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 10:21 PM
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Your comments make you one of the more difficult people to figure out in terms of like, what is this “mind” ... and while this doesn’t answer everything, it IS illuminating. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 10:03 PM
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I believe you fundamentally misunderstand where I come from in my stance. I believe that men gatekeep commitment and women gatekeep sex. Most women are pursuing commitment, with sex as an accessory reward. Most men are pursuing sex, with commitment an accessory reward. This isn't to say that a woman can't enjoy casual sex, or that a man can't desire a relationship. It is to say that men are more likely to be interested in sex and value it highly, while women are more interested in commitment and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 09:55 PM
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Disclaimer: I'm over most of this. 1 I'm the 5th child out of 8 siblings. Multiple kids in multiple relationships/marriages, so it was a hot mess in terms of familial stability. Completely fucked with my understanding of healthy relationships from the get-go. Result? Felt unnoticed and unwanted. My parents never married because my dad has a serious wandering dick problem and Bipolar 2, while my mother is a SJW and extremely strong, stubborn personality. Lovely combo. Result? I believed I was doo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 09:32 PM
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I'm saying that a naive or socially inept woman can be tricked into believing sex with get her the commitment she desires when in reality the man has no intention of commitment, not at all that the mere having of sex is a result of being preyed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 09:12 PM
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I wanna first and foremost repeat that I think some women who engage in casual sex lack self-respect, not all. It's women who want relationships and are tricked into sex who prioritize the man's values over her own that lack self respect in my estimation. She doesn't respect herself enough to hold out for a man who has proven he shares her values - she just plays hopes that through giving him sex she'll snag him. I do think there are women who are naive that get burned in a similar fashion, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 05:49 PM
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Yep. Sometimes you get a little heated and yell. My big rules are no insults and if you're gonna throw things, it can't break anything or hurt if you throw poorly. We've had fights dissolve into giggling because we started throwing blankets at each other, yet "throwing things" is always screened as ABUSE in all caps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 04:42 PM
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Told my BF that if we ever have an MFF, we'd have to have an MFM. Killed that fantasy real fast XD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 04:36 PM
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My take is twofold: 1) Some girls have casual sex for validation because they lack self respect (this isn't why all women have casual sex, just some). Lacking self-respect is a major red flag to healthy, mature men, so they subsequently only get pursued by men who also are unhealthy or know they can get casual sex out of them. Otherwise I think naive or socially inept women are being "preyed" upon, but I don't really think it's that much of a concern. 2) Some people think relationships that are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 04:26 PM
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No, that's just as bad. No pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:03 PM
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Dude, just no. Talk to her like a human being. Women aren't as visual as men are, she needs her mind turned on, not her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:02 PM
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NO. NO DICK PIC. My fucking god.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:59 PM
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No. That's the anti-thesis of a good strategy. That would be what I would tell a guy to do if he's trying to get her to be creeped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:56 PM
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So you did great! Now you have to figure out some way of getting conversation going so she actually wants to see you again
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 01:43 PM
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Did you get her number?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 01:40 PM
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Did you touch her at all? Or just maintain awkward distance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 01:36 PM
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If she wanted to see your room, why didn't you say, "yeah let me give you the tour"? Honestly you should've at least asked for her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 01:32 PM
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He is NOT a player or "slaying pussy", as gridrexx ridiculously asserts. Did you not mean to say that average men should get more than they are getting? Most men can't get even ONE reasonably attractive girl. A 5 can get a 5. That's reasonably attractive. Half the men are 5s and up and can get 5s and up, if you believe that that a gaussian curve properly represents attractiveness (I don't, but that's because of the obesity epidemic).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 10:39 PM
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Heaven forbid anyone be average. Men need all the pussy!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 10:33 PM
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Yeah, in one style he's got this grotesquely narrow face that blocks out other positive features, and in another it's wider looking and less alien, so in the second style his eyes and dark hair contrast nicely so he looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 09:42 PM
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Yes, exactly. I love grey hair on men and the wild Sherlock hair makes his face look not so narrow. I still feel revulsion whenever I see his red carpet looks if he's got short hair though, so it's truly his styling that changes it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 09:34 PM
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Recommenting under Auto mod because I forgot this was a CMV. Mmmmmmmm Benedict Cumberbatch is a great example of this. Didn't think I could find his features attractive but the wild hair of Sherlock and the grey hair of Dr Strange just flat out did it for me. Just pulls his face together and makes him sexy AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 09:30 PM
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No, because that would require being attracted to gay men, which I am not. I would, however, allow him to take me shopping and do my make up. His eyeliner is on fleeeeeeeeeeeek.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 08:06 PM
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Purplish red, female. I think it should be fully legal up until 12-16 weeks (exceptions being health of the mother/fetus, rape, and incest). I think birth control should be easily accessible and affordable, and that kids should be taught about having protected sex, as well as the psychological ramifications of sex too early or of too many partners. I am morally very against abortion, but I don't see how outlawing it would better our country/society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 07:25 PM
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I think of it a little differently. The Silent Generation raised Gen X (who raised and is raising Gen Z), and Baby Boomers raised Millennials. Seems more like there's an every-other pattern, as the first three are tougher minded and more realistic than the second two.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:58 PM
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They're watching the Millennial Generation flounder (and the hippie baby boomers who raised them) and walking away from the values of the sexual revolution. Yeah, it's all fine and dandy to have two working parents, but childcare is expensive. It's cheaper for one parent to stay home - and usually mom who wants or is willing to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:31 PM
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You're misunderstanding - I'm saying that there are ways, but OP doesn't have them. She's lacking in social awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:44 PM
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Go to CT and start going to college a capella concerts. You'll meet 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:57 PM
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Right I misspoke. I very much doubt older ladies will be willing to trade the comfort of their committed relationship for the chance to have sex with other people. In most cases it will destroy the marriage even when agreed to. I'm aware? I'm saying that ideally it includes sex, but not having sex isn't worth losing monogamy. I know men who believe that more than women. And you think monogamy actually did that? In the modern age it's irrelevant anyway. With birth control and paternity testing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:50 PM
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Really? I know plenty. You want one? I'll set you up lol. If you can't tell the difference between a man who consistently is kind to strangers, waitstaff, acquitances, and friends, and a guy who is manipulative in using his niceness, I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:42 PM
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That's fair. I was mostly thinking of childbirth deaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:36 PM
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But many women died in childbirth. There was no guarantee of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:33 PM
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You're not the only one, I'm gonna edit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:31 PM
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1) I somehow doubt that the older women on here would agree with you on that one. Fidelity seems to be prized heavily as people get older. I meant that it is ideal for sex to be involved, not for cheating to be involved. 2) is really more a product of men understanding that it's a massive investment for every new partner whereas, if it's socially acceptable to crack onto married women it would happen a lot more and all she'd have to do is say yes. It's AFBB in a perfect form and probably ends up…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:31 PM
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Never said it wasn't? It was also designed and a time period where a lot of people didn't live past 40. So the entire time you were married the female could reproduce, so there was no discussion about what should couples do after the woman is past her childbearing years. Ideally both partners are happy and attracted to one another their entire lives. This doesn't always happen but that is the ideal relationship which is why monogamy is fine. You don't need to go elsewhere to get some strange - i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:07 PM
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OP described niceness as a transitory in conditional trait. Therefore I pointed out that there's some people were kind and generous on average, not just in a transitory or situational way. That's why I then pointed out that Op maybe can't distinguish the difference between a nice man an unkind man, because I see kind and generous men everywhere, and not in a transitory or conditional way. I also see unkind men who use niceness as a form of manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:02 PM
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1) [Sex is included in the ideal relationship model]. But most relationships are not the "ideal" because people are human and flawed. 2) Because men really like monogamy because it helps them know that their kids are actually their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 11:51 AM
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So are you really saying there are no guys who are usually kind and generous people? That's really odd to me. There are men who are softer and kinder more often than they are anything else. They would be "nice" men. So maybe what you're really saying is you can't perceive the difference between "nice" men and "not nice" men. Which is different from "no woman can tell the difference" or "they don't exist at all". So, view changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 11:41 AM
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If a dude is more attractive in drag than as a man, then she's not really into him as a man. Which is usually what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 11:41 PM
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I'm now imagining turkey basting women with mtn dew and coke before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 11:44 AM
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Not in my experience. I don't get giggly and girly around men I don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 01:58 AM
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Apparently nothing because according to the internet I'm dating a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 05:36 PM
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As a member of the inferior half of the species you should defer to me on everything anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 05:35 PM
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30,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 05:32 PM
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A harem of men on the other idea hand is bliss. One mows the lawns while another cleans out the gutters, the third does laundry and cooks while the fourth massages one's shoulders. Truly spectacular.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 05:26 PM
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Female. That's why it's so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 05:05 PM
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I had a man tell me that since I drank mountain dew and it lowers sperm count, I shouldn't need birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 03:21 PM
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This is why us NFs love you NTs. Y'all know that we need handling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 12:43 AM
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My apologies, I misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 11:30 AM
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I'm no feminist. Do try to make quality comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 12:40 AM
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Loved Ali Wong's Baby Cobra!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:57 AM
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He most definitely talks about his son. He's absolutely adores him, and in 12 Rules for Life talks about Julian quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 05:13 PM
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He personally identifies himself as sexually conservative, so I don't think he's a fan of serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 05:11 PM
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Men. Women can be breadwinners, primary parents, or a mix of both, and are encouraged to do whatever they want. Men can be breadwinners and are called "babysitters" if they try to be primary parents or a mix of both. Everything else tilts towards men having a tougher time. Luckily, many men are resilient and up to the task.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:42 AM
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Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 07:54 PM
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There is a difference between working towards incremental improvements and being in the top 10 worst countries on earth. That is what everyone is protesting -- why the hell is a 1st world country considered so awful when there are literally dozens of countries that are worse? They turn to Saudi Arabia because it's an easy target, even though women can drive there as of last year (how progressive, lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:57 PM
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I don't think they were saying it was a punishment, merely an experiment for disgruntled women of America to try. If America is so bad, why aren't women fleeing for other countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:51 PM
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Even though it's probably fair to say that living in Saudi Arabia would be worse for a woman than for America?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:49 PM
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But we shouldn't criticize Islamic countries... Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:47 PM
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Even though Islamic countries make up 17/18 of the worst countries for women's education? Even though 10 Islamic countries make up the lowest of the women's labor force participation? Even though a woman's testimony is equal to half of a man's legally speaking in many Muslim countries? I mean in 2010 the United Arab Emirates upheld a husband's right to "chastise" his wife and children with beatings. How can you defend a religion that condones assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:44 PM
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So you don't think that a culture that is extremely misogynistic should be called out? Am I hearing that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:31 PM
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Every day you comment what I'm already thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:30 PM
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We're worse than countries that kill girls for being raped? That's novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:42 PM
3

I would say about 30-35% of men are worth it, about 40% of women. I say that because not all women need to be MC to be marriage worthy, so long as they are pleasant and loving, while men need to be MC or up (in my estimation). I do believe every pot has its lid, but we're not talking about BPD or bipolar disorder pots and lids, we're talking about normal marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:35 PM
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I agree. He white knights so fucking hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:29 PM
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First off, Women do get shamed for it. "I only like women who wear natural make up" is literal shaming of women who wear bright or flamboyant make up. Secondly, no one is stopping you from improving how you look. You wanna use make up to contour your face to look more masculine? Be my guest. My third and final point is that men are equally disappointed if they are lied to through make up regarding a woman's appearance as women are that men lied about actually liking their personality before pump…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:08 PM
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I like the way you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 12:43 PM
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Okay, then why do incels whine so much about it? If an inevitable fact of life for them, it's not women's fault whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:12 AM
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In response to a post saying men are useless. I think some amount of nuance needs to be considered. I also didn't say women are cheating more, just sleeping around more than they used to because of the sexual revolution. You seem to be misinterpreting me at every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:08 AM
4

Infatuation can never last a lifetime, unlike love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 03:32 AM
3

Oh! Yes, we agree, OP is angsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:32 AM
3

I'd rather have love than infatuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:31 AM
4

Long story short, everyone here is made of matter that could have been used for literally anything else in our universe, and you are now alive at probably the luckiest time to be so, unless you’re maybe a tradcon who idealizes the 50s (which were a blip). Do some acid. Read the Tao te Ching (i like the mitchell translation). Go for a fucking run at sunrise. One day you’ll be dead and all this angst was a shitty way to be alive. ... What? I'm very aware now is the best time to be alive in human h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 02:29 AM
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Man that sounds like fun. Then again I felt zero need to cool off after over an hour of sunbathing XD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 11:19 PM
3

It's the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 11:11 PM
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1) Really tired of the goddamn incel content. 2) Loooooooving the warmth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 11:11 PM
1

If you insist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 11:09 PM
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Okay it's banned because incels tend to be childish, whiny, and incapable of arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 11:08 PM
1

You said it wasn't. Which makes you wrong when responding to BisquitBill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:59 PM
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If you're trying to change someone's mind, then you have to put the effort in to be civil. That's the reality of discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:58 PM
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Part of the definition is that they are unable to procure sex within a year long span or more. You said that wasn't true. Please stop moving the goal posts, because the definition has expanded, but it still includes unable to get a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:39 PM
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You literally said this: Incel =/= sexually & romantically unsuccessful And then I said you were wrong. So what's it gonna be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:27 PM
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Telling people that you hope they don't have kids with issues is clearly a value statement that doesn't encourage the other person to continue speaking to you. Treat the other person as if they have something of value for you to learn. Edit: for example, "I don't think it is prudent for you to breed" is incredibly insulting. If you wanted to change her mind, you just seriously destroyed any chance of her taking you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:22 PM
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Incel literally means involuntary celibate for at least 1 year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:13 PM
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You asked what the causes are, someone answered, and then said that it was tough luck that they were born or developed different. If you have an agenda, state it. If you have questions, let them be answered. Don't argue as if anyone who doesn't say your foregone conclusion is wrong, because it will make you no friends here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:13 PM
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It used to be you weren't allowed to opt out of socializing. Now children can stare at screens instead of play outside (because heaven forbid children play outside without supervision), and we're suddenly shocked that those adults can't function normally? The obvious answer is less screen time and more socialization for children. But that ain't happening for the majority of families. So the ones who are naturally behind the curve socially will continue to flouder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:11 PM
5

Yeah well Atlas is pointing out that that is reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:03 PM
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The reason it's banned here is because it turns into "woe is me" and "nothing I do can get me a relationship". Which is childish and immature, as well as false. That being said, I think a combination of anxiety, social incompetence, and visual inferiority is what causes incels. In men the anxiety is the fear to approach and escalate, in women it is the fear of intimacy and sex. Social incompetence is usually caused by the anxiety and feeds into a vicious cycle as anxiety prevents interactions fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:02 PM
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It takes two to tango I'm not saying men are perfect, I'm saying women are complicit. You have to keep the context of the statement in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 08:27 PM
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What's funny is in countries like Scandinavia where they tried to get rid of gender differences and they're pretty much as egalitarian as it gets, personality differences and job choices became increasingly stereotypical rather than less.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 07:26 PM
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The Dog Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 07:21 PM
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I personally believe in these exceptions regarding cut off dates for abortion: Health of the mother, the fetus is dying/dead or severely malformed, rape, and/or incest. The cut off dates are about taking a stance on when life begins, not about restricting emergent abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 07:18 PM
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I don't. His last pick wasn't a diehard Christian conservative, it was a constitutionalist. If he puts another constitutionalist on, Roe v Wade isn't going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:10 PM
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I'm a youngin' but I was taught to talk to your partner about "what if" so you two had at least broached the topic before you had sex. It's not that hard to say "I couldn't possibly keep a baby in my life", "I'm not really sure", or "I don't think I could abort a baby" -- if they aren't on the same page as you, don't have sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:09 PM
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I'm not against financial abortion of the man in this case. But again... Why the heck did [they] not use the 1st most effective form and just not have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 01:59 PM
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Do you think I started wanting to act cute and feel feminine around men to get their sexual attention previous to puberty? Or that I meant they aren't falling for a trick when I act cute / feel feminine around them, because I only act cute / feel feminine around men I find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 01:49 PM
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If society collapses, it's the outdoorsy guys and their girls who will survive. Not the high IQ engineers, not the PhDs, not the politicians. It's the guys who can make their own food and build their own shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 01:39 PM
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Because there is a difference between stopping fertilization from happening altogether and/or preventing the egg from implanting (which happens quite often with fertilized eggs naturally) with medical or physical interference... And ending the living organism that has begun to develop. I personally think the line should be cut off at 16 weeks because of developments that happen with the fetus at 20 weeks, plus it is possible that with proper medical intervention you can deliver at 20 weeks. Now …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 01:33 PM
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Femininity is always feigned...women pitch their voices upwards, lower their heads, gaze upwards through their lashes, act silly and innocent, etc etc as a performance. Women are never as feminine in private or only around other women as they are in public. It's always an act. So incorrect. I act this way around my boyfriend because he makes me feel girly so I act girly. Other women couldn't give a flying fuck. Therefore there is no "age" besides puberty when I started noticing men, and because …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 01:20 PM
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Because it's not rape victims pushing that narrative around. Sometimes it's even more insidious and 1 in 5 girls on college campuses will be raped, which is just blatantly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 04:14 AM
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If you don't care so much, why'd you respond?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 04:13 AM
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Happy cake day But they are much less likely to be involved the way that present fathers are, and OOW parents are less likely to stay together for the long haul than married parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:47 AM
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YouTube "grapefruit your man original". Have fun lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:39 AM
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Forget the blindfold, just grapefruit him and then tell him what happened so he accepts period sex as the lesser evil XD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:34 AM
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It's a deliberate thing done to push an agenda. And she dodged the question whenever I asked, so I stopped asking. I told him that if he doesn't want to hurt someone, he should never be afraid to check in with her. Better to be awkward than to hurt someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 01:00 AM
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You are free to come hang with me and my NTP to binge watch movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:52 AM
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Current shows: Game of Thrones, Grey's Anatomy (I'm finishing that bloated monstrosity even if it kills me), The Good Place, the occasional Southpark binge Completed shows: Jessica Jones, Dexter, Scandal, Naruto, House MD, Scrubs, Lie to Me, Big Cat Diaries, Mythbusters, Jon Stewart's The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Criminal Minds, How to Get Away with Murder, Black Mirror, Big Mouth, Arrested Development, Twilight Zone, Spongebob, Danny Phantom, Fairly Odd Parents, Ned's Declassified, OG Su…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:43 AM
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The comment meant that their sons are more likely to drop socioeconomic brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:22 AM
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I believe that male role models improve boys' outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:09 AM
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It's false because it's been warped from 1 in 5 women sexually assaulted or harassed in their lifetime = 1 in 5 women being raped. Very very different discussion. My brother at the time was 12, getting yelled at by a woman in her late 20s that all men are evil. So he gets to cry, because he's done literally nothing to deserve that kind of treatment, and I don't think that any of his classmates had raped a girl a twelve fucking years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:57 PM
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I'm talking about my younger brother who came to me crying scared that he shouldn't interact with women because our older sister ranted about how 1 in 5 women get raped (false) and so he's likely to rape someone. I'm talking about my boyfriend who was verbally abused and told he should never speak up or disagree with women by his mother and his ex. They have been severely damaged by women and still try to do their best by the women in their lives, and you claim they are misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:45 PM
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So even men raised by SJWs are misogynists? How about men who hate themselves because they perceive themselves as evil because their mom told them all men are evil? Men who want the women around them to succeed and thrive in their respective fields are misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:32 PM
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you people I'm a woman, I don't hate women for God's fucking sake. I'm sorry your ex did not treat you well. I still don't see how that proves that all men have committed some grand sin. I was raised as a SJW and I used to be a harder misandrist than Jams, so I get it, I really do, but I just don't see how you can condemn all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:23 PM
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Except you're not male. You're more prone to say, lupus, than a real XY male. You might get people to agree you're a man, but medically, you will never be male. The correct vernacular is that you are female, but you move through the world as a man. No amount of hormones or surgery will change your genetics. Oh, and it's Ms. Vermillion, or carefree. I am both female and a woman, as I don't fight my biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:20 PM
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I'm trying to understand why you believe what you believe. I don't understand what grand sin men have committed to have earned such vitriol from you. Jammerly is pretty clear, but you puzzle me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:11 PM
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I want to hear why she takes it as far as she does. You can't answer that for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:05 PM
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So because men leave their socks on the floor and want to share their feelings with their significant others... They're assholes? Just awful creatures? All because they're messy and they want their wives to love them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:05 PM
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Okay. You have every right to break up with him if he's trying to force you to have children you don't want. That doesn't make every man an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:00 PM
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So you don't actually have examples of deal breakers for me versus flaws you could be understanding about? Just your hypothetical ideas on how relationships should operate?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:56 PM
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What kind of transgression is he making? It'll always drive me nuts how my boyfriend drives but he puts up with my back seat driving so I take the good with the bad. I've dropped hints and flat out said "hey quit driving like a grandma," but ultimately it's not that big of a deal. Are you dumping people over things like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:53 PM
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Men don't read minds. Hell, women don't read minds. You seem to think that a fair relationship is where the two people read one another's minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:49 PM
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You're talking about two purple users... Jammerly, who you supposedly agree with, is more red pilled than I am...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:46 PM
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If you expect men to be women, you will only make yourself miserable. But I think you've already come to that conclusion, haven't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:45 PM
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Clearly you do because you accused me of being a man and a single mother hater when I am neither, then you accused Pennny of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:43 PM
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So you've never needed reminding of anything in your life? You've always understood things perfectly without ever needing assistance? There's no room for humanity in your expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:40 PM
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Pennylame is a woman talking about treating her husband well. Do you always assume anyone who disagrees with you is a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 10:34 PM
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They're underperforming in elementary school. There's a problem at hand. I do agree though that too many people are going to college. Should be the top 10-15%.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:51 PM
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we tell males want we want which is an equal relationship only to fall on deaf ears Did you not mean to say men don't listen to you when you ask for an equal relationship? Because I don't think it's that hard to get a man to listen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:49 PM
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You know the majority of men are not evil, right? They're pretty decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:44 PM
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On average men are underperforming. Those men would perform well regardless of circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:41 PM
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I chalk this one up to the men who thought the sexual revolution would be a good idea and then proceeded to spread the idea all over the goddamn place. Women need to be taught to be choosier about their sexual/romantic partners so only the "good men" are reproducing, because what we're seeing is women choosing based on what is attractive short term, not long term. Especially since the majority of women who are reproducing this way are doing so when they're quite young and their prefrontal cortex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:23 PM
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I'm a woman. I was raised by a single mom. I am merely concerned for the next generation, because I want any sons I have to not suffer as men are currently suffering, and I want any daughters I have to not have a scarcity of men to choose from. If the statistics on child outcomes did not validate my position, I wouldn't have it. There are 70 different ways that fathers improve outcomes for their children listed in the book I mentioned in my OP. Children with fathers develop better self control a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:19 PM
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what about males who do have a father but they still underperform? Clearly they're inferior, all other factors being equal. are you saying all those males losing at the game of life are that way because all of them have no daddy? I'm saying that when 40% of children are born out of wedlock and 50% of marriages end in divorce, the majority of children are deprived of their fathers, and boys are more negatively affected than girls. if that's the case, why did those fathers leave? Again, 40% of bir…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:13 PM
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Single father households do better than single mother households.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:10 PM
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Because more women choose to walk away from their husbands than husbands walk away from their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:09 PM
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Your inability to have an equal relationship with your partner sounds like a personal problem. Us normal people over here have happy and fulfilling relationships with a healthy give-and-take dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:07 PM
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On youtube, yes. His public lectures are about 65-35 male-female.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:04 PM
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Single motherhood is worsening the future generations of children, especially boys. Made an OP about it recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:01 PM
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Women are higher in neuroticism, and therefore more sensitive to negative influences, as well as more likely to be emotionally volatile and withdraw from communication. He may not perceive that something is wrong, or if he does may not know how to address it because she's stonewalling at every turn. Secondly, a lot of women have more time to focus on their wants and their emotional needs than men, so they are more likely to enter a negative spiral downwards about their relationship than men are.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:42 PM
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Except women are the ones divorcing men and sleeping around indiscriminately. It takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:25 PM
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No men are underperforming because they lack fathers, not because women are superior
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:24 PM
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I'm not sure she used it correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:19 PM
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It's okay, it's a weird color and a weirder name. Still got my attention so I responded with my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:18 PM
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That doesn't dispute the point that men were willing to sacrifice to create change. Men now are too complacent and just want to whine from the sidelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:12 PM
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No, single motherhood is so damaging that it causes poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:11 PM
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You forgot the "ver" in vermillion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:08 PM
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I'm confused. I said she was born female, as in XX. She believes she is a man behaviorally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:57 PM
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Only becoming marriage material because she can't get anyone else is insulting. Being marriage material between 18-25 is a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:15 PM
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I mean you get a fun, exciting guy who is also marriage material...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:06 PM
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No she's saying that she was born female now identifies as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:34 AM
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I can't fix a lack of reading comprehension. I'm good but I'm not that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 02:49 AM
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I don't think Atlas was talking about slavery, she was talking about the Civil Rights Movement headed by Dr MLK Jr.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 01:28 AM
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I'm a chick. You're not going to get a fair body comparison from me. I just dated a gym geek so I know what real strength looks like (not just bulk, specifically strength). There's a difference between muscular and superman. You're short, so you have to be superman to get noticed by women. Of course, it helps if you have a nice face, because there's only so much the gym can do. Overall you need to get over any fears you have of women by ignoring the anxiety in your head and being present in actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 01:26 AM
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Your lifting would go somewhere if you 1) looked actually muscular, and you don't and 2) actually had good PRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 01:08 AM
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Lol, he's 165 lbs. He doesn't look bloated in the least. I won't deny that he's insanely strong but needless to say, your bragging doesn't impress me much as a result. He has girls hit on him because he's a short Italian Superman. I don't doxx people so no, I'm not posting photos of him without his permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 10:19 PM
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Let me know when you can bench 320. Yes, I know someone who can bench 320 at 5'5". Yes, he looks good. Also I like how you felt the need to provide photos. Such confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 10:04 PM
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I have a range when it comes to men. I don't mind feminine features so long as there are sharp cheekbones, thick eyebrows and a solid jaw line. Examples of feminine features I don't mind include full lips, large doe eyes, a softly aquiline nose, etc. I don't care about height or chest hair as much as many girls do, as I've liked guys from 5'5" to 6'1" and hair doesn't bug me. I don't find appearance to correlate with psychology. I like intellectually dominant men though, so they have a different…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 09:45 PM
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Not well, evidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 09:26 PM
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God doesn't really care about it, he's got bigger things on his mind that your "kitty". Ugh I feel like a pedophile now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 08:46 PM
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Men are not the same as women. They have different goals. Expecting women to act like men will forever disappoint you. Edit: 5' 5", 145lbs, admits to being an incel, scared of being a creep Listen, you can only be one of those. Hit the gym and put on some muscle and quit whining on the internet. Ask out a woman in person a day until you have a girlfriend. You can't get better at asking girls out if you never do it because you are scared of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 08:32 PM
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Lmfao, my normal boyfriend is a Chad? My ex is a Chad? Every dude that's fucked a girl is Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 08:16 PM
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Chad isn't real. He's the abstract concept of the guy who will always steal the girl, but will never commit to her. Whoever would convince you to leave your man? That's your Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 03:20 PM
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Yeah it's been difficult to parse through because I love debating and arguing and I specifically choose partners that can actually argue with me. I think I'd be closer to a true HH if my childhood had been different, so instead of pursuing physical dominance I pursue mental dominance.
/r/RedPillWives29/06/18 11:01 AM
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I do so anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 12:24 AM
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I am sure in certain areas, particularly where single, marriageable men outnumber single, marriageable women that it is more difficult. Don't you mean the reverse? More men means women are in higher demand, not that men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 11:19 PM
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Q4W: Women make dating hard, not men. Q4ALL: There is no male power imbalance. Overall it tilts towards women. In different areas (different industries, classes, regions, individual families and/or relationships) the dynamic is different, but you can't know unless you're in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:33 PM
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Men are really struggling. I made a post about how boys are falling behind, it's a really sad state of affairs. In real life, I see my family members failing to become strong men and failing to have children within wedlock. I see my male friends struggling to interact with women. Men need to be left alone to be men and to work out with one another what it means to be a man. Women need to stop assaulting the nuclear family, stop berating men for having masculine tendencies, and actually admit wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:17 PM
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That woman is shat on, you just don't perceive it because you're not a woman. She's referred to as a crazy cat lady and spinster to ignore the female imperative. Men want man things, women want woman things. Those things are frequently not the same, and/or are in direct conflict. If you want to interact with the opposite sex, you operate with that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:14 PM
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Never. If I had to go to women to get my freak on with someone who wanted it I'd hang myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:06 PM
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In better news a mod commented that it's a shit tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 09:30 PM
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Preach. It's not about the surface level femininity, because if it was no man would hit on a tomboy, and Lord knows that ain't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:05 PM
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The shoulder-hip ratio is wrong too. Plus the arm bones are too thick to be female. The fake feminine over the obvious masculine just disturbs me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:47 PM
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Write a letter detailing your feelings. Put it aside for a week. Go back to it after a week and figure out what is reasonable and what is purely emotion. Use the points of the letter as your talking points when you broach the issue.
/r/RedPillWives28/06/18 07:23 PM
1

Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 05:44 PM
1

Well you're just sunshine-y.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:46 AM
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I'm personally all for you not marrying. Spare the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 09:03 PM
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Q4W: Sex and political/social discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 05:17 PM
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It's great at my job too, I have more energy in a fasted state than I do after eating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 02:25 PM
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Suddenly every ad has sexy Mr Clean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 02:58 AM
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I think the power of the movie was that they both struggled with the role reversal but ultimately grew as individuals and as a couple as a result. He ended up trusting her to do as good of a job as he did out in the field, and in the end she trusted him to be the present parent. They both have their natural inclinations still, so it doesn't feel forced. Imo I don't really care what kind of gender role representation shows up on screen beyond just wishing there would be more demonstrations of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 02:58 AM
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My god, I really am not trying to make you feel like shit. I see what you say and it doesn't match up with what I know about fitness, and I'm explaining why people get annoyed. Hell if you want we can be weight loss buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:16 AM
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1900 is too high. My maintenance is 1700, I eat around 1400 rn to lose weight because that's my RMR. Try 1500.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:15 AM
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He goes home, cooks his own food, cooks food for his roommates, cleans up after his roommates, walks his dog, and then studies like crazy all night. Rinse and repeat everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:13 AM
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If you're eating under 1200 of mostly meat and veggies and working out properly, you should lose weight. If you're not then you must be lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:12 AM
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Not compared to a man who worked his way down to 8-10% body fat. Not compared to a woman who's down to 17%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:11 AM
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Do you? I know someone in law school frying his brain easily 80 hrs a week on academia that does intermittent fasting and works out most days. Amazing shape, low body %. If he can do it, someone else can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:10 AM
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You're not a morbidly obese cow, but you act like it's fine and/or not your fault. Anyone who works hard on their body gets annoyed when you compare yourself to them, because you're overweight and they're in tip top shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 01:09 AM
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Ayyyyy, there's another ENFP running around!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 12:18 AM
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Then you aren't disciplined.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 11:48 PM
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Men you clearly shouldn't be with. Go find a man who will appreciate one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 11:42 PM
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This user tells different stories. She "works out" and "eats well" but is overweight. She also clearly doesn't understand that if she isn't losing weight then she needs to eat less, because you can't outrun a shitty diet. The gym can help increase your calorie deficit but you have to understand what your actual RMR is and what your actual maintenance calories are, and I believe she overestimates both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 11:40 PM
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You can eat... you just shouldn't overeat. My maintenance calories are 1700, it's really easy to overeat because everything is based on the 2000 calorie diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 11:37 PM
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Just because I don't need to approach doesn't mean I don't want to. I want to, and it has benefited me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 11:32 PM
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Would it make sense for a HH woman to prefer an intellectually dominant mate - like a Magician/Lover leaning mate? I've always pursued men with the goal of dating the smartest man in the room, and I just came from your 1.5 post about what defines a HH woman, and I'm definitely in the Amazon-Courtesan camp.
/r/RedPillWives26/06/18 08:43 PM
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What bothers me is the flowery feminine language. I'm not sure how much of it is girls role playing what they think other people want to hear and men using it to hide markers that they're actually men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:12 PM
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It would be more true to say men are more likely to be pragmatic than women. Not that it is absolutely guaranteed that they will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:41 PM
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This might be mind blowing but people don't want perfection. They want "good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:23 PM
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I consider misandry and misogyny to both be low status. I think misandry creates misogyny and vice versa, which is bad because men are overall more violent than women and more likely to have a violent endgame when walking down a path of resentment and rage, which of course pushes women to hate and distrust men more and further the cycle as well as get people killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:19 PM
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Weird, because I know men who abhor cheating on principle. Even if they find another woman attractive or hell, even more attractive than their girlfriend/wife, they just don't believe in doing it and therefore won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:12 PM
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It's the jaw and the build
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:02 PM
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Men and women are more the same than they are different, but at the same time when you look at what causes behavior, small differences on a microlevel result in large differences on a macrolevel. Men for example, are more aggressive than women. If you grab 2 people out of 100, a man and a woman, 60-40 chance that the man is more aggressive. That's not much different than a coin flip. Yet at the extremes, such as in jail populations, 9/10 of the people in jail are men. I think the ultimate proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:00 PM
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I've never understood the whole "never chase a man" camp. I've either always put myself out there or put out such overt IOIs that I might as well have chased the damn man. That being said, I like long courtship phases. I got to know my current boyfriend over 5 years before we started dating seriously (he wasn't an orbiter, we were both seeing other people). The boyfriend before him I knew for a year and then dated on and off for about 3 years after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:53 PM
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Me too. I want to be in one of them. I'm just going to point out that neither of the women that I know in the kind of marriages I described feel the way you do about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:31 PM
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Some men actually like women and enjoy their company. They usually like kids and want to start a family. They usually view women as human and therefore flawed, but their woman as their favorite if they're happy. It isn't this constant battle for supremacy between them. They're usually looking out for one another's interests and needs. The benefits of being together legally outweigh the risk. They are genuinely content and in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 11:22 AM
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I know exactly what you mean. PPD is my mental home in terms of being around like minded people, and plate school ahem I mean RPW was too homogenous and male dominated for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 02:46 AM
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I remember seeing you around RPW, and I'm glad you came here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 02:39 AM
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Here ya go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:21 PM
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I'm used to high IQ women succeeding eith or without a degree, which is why law is such overkill to me - especially since I'm a dog groomer able to make between 50-70k with just a high school diploma.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:07 PM
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Okay, that's fair. I don't know the answer either. But that's why I'm so firmly against just giving into the trans agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:07 PM
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That would be my exact point. These trans people are not right in the head. But because it's socially acceptable to remove genitalia, we don't actually treat their psychosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 02:38 PM
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Don't downvote. Everyone has to grow up eventually and realize that no one gives a shit about you. You have to take care of yourself, first and foremost. If some men are mad at women because women take care of themselves over men, then they are still in "her frame" and need to grow the fuck up. Edit: clarified and expanded.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 02:18 PM
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I love gotcha posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 02:17 PM
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Yep, sounds about right. So much easier for your man to make you happy if he's happy with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 02:14 PM
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Then they aren't fully red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 02:10 PM
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I meant I didn't want to comb through Atlas's comment to see what you meant. I know that nothing we say here will change OP's mind, because ultimately OP's self esteem is based on other people and will never be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:32 PM
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Okay, gender could be redefined too. The point is things change, research on a topic will always evolve. Most of the research done is by organizations with an obvious bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:20 PM
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I mean, why the hell do these supposed alpha men care what other people think?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:51 PM
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Can you summarize her view point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:49 PM
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I mean there was also a well researched body of literature on Pluto being a planet but that was disproven...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:37 PM
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But you're fine with trans people cutting their genitalia off, when you just admitted not being sure about other body parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:34 AM
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... where the fuck do you think you are? Seriously - there is a purple flair in the sidebar for people in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:02 AM
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This thread will tell you what's changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:00 AM
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I mean she's got a point - I'm pretty open about my life here but do you feel comfortable asking people IRL about their sex lives after barely any conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:58 AM
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the freaks are kicking the traditionalists' asses See this is why Trump won - because most people don't like the weird fringe people, and it's just a shouty minority that got its grip on the universities that allowed this nonsense to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:56 AM
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Don't tempt me, lol. It's such a waste. She really does have some amazing strengths, but her political attitude just completely ruins it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:53 AM
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I mean, or therapy...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:50 AM
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Yeah but most guys don't want to deal with a lawyer's hours. You think a man wants his wife working 70 hours a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:49 AM
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I mean yeah, there are some things that height and body shape alter so certain positions work better than others with different people, plus various preferences between partners so it's not clear cut like you make it out to be. You'd have to go through category after category after category.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:48 AM
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I mean he posted copies of all the documentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 10:46 AM
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Depends on the why of the rejection. Also strength of tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:25 AM
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Definitely very sexually attracted to him, and the sex is excellent. My point was that I almost perfectly match your story but with "rejected" replaced by "terminated relationship". Yet he's getting alpha sex. So there's no guarantee the guy in your scenario would be a beta - you just have to make sure she's an honest person by watching her behavior carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:23 AM
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So... Should we cut off healthy, functioning limbs because people believing they need to come off?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:20 AM
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I mean, I broke up with my current BF back when we were in high school because we wanted different things at the time. He gets plenty of hot willing sex, so he's no beta. The main thing you should teach anyone is "watch what they do, not what they say". This is true for something to teach both men and women. If they do what they say they'll do, they're probably honest people, and that's a damn good sign and the most important thing you can have in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:19 AM
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Fucking preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:12 AM
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Is body dysphoria where you want to cut your own legs off a birth defect?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:09 AM
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You're redder than I am, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 03:08 AM
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She's an SJW, so attempting to pronounce words from other cultures is racist and sexist, even if it's in good faith. We were at her wedding to a Kurdish man, and when my brother fumbled and made a self deprecating joke, she lectured him for a solid 10 minutes on how his privileged status means he shouldn't attempt to say their words because that's cultural appropriation. I haven't read the OP, I just got dragged in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:16 PM
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It's on AMA, you look it up Edit: cited wrong sub
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:02 PM
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Oh of course you harass me :P
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:02 PM
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He's right, actually. Seriously upset me watching my second eldest sister treat my baby brother like shit because he was a white male trying to pronounce a Kurdish word. Pretty much cemented my changeover.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 10:59 PM
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It didn't take two years for the guy who changed his gender legally to get cheaper car insurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 07:22 PM
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Because wimmenz are eviiiiiiil
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 06:16 PM
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5' 10" men = 5' 4" women Atlas, quit being sexist. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 06:11 PM
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Nvm you're just brigading around bothering anyone who doesn't believe what you believe. I feel zero need to engage in such discourse when it's not in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 06:03 PM
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I'm sorry! I didn't mean it to be weird or in a weird way, just like a have a nice day or something. I guess it's not the same, sorry. It's okay, I knew your intentions were pure lol. I think it's pretty clear that I don't really care about that stuff that just holds us back. I'm not a physician either, I studied mathematics in undergrad and I'm going into either bio informatics or something similar. I know, but I think the moral ramifications of ignoring a person's right to choose what happens …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 01:28 PM
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I hope you slept well :) I don't know you well enough to not find that off putting. I don't think you can do this with an adult without their consent, but people can be persuaded. This goes against the physician's code. You are allowed to state the benefits but you have to state the side effects and the risks of the procedure and you cannot persuade them, they have to make the choice themselves. The pair bonding would probably kick in during sex, so people would place a huge emphasis on it, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 01:05 PM
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I don't mind attempting to have a discussion about something else, but our legal and moral system is founded upon the idea of free will. Continue to repeatedly comment on this and I'll just block you, and you'll never get to convince me of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:53 PM
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I'm too spiritual to believe in determinism. Take your arguments elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:52 PM
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People who care about technological advancements and electricity. I personally like air conditioning, but if you want to live like a chimpanzee by all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:52 PM
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Tbh if you don't think so you're probably not high value yourself I really enjoy ad hominem, it really shows how good someone is at debating. If you cared to read my other comments (to get context, which would require a desire for honest and proper debate), you would see that I made a point that actual 00s in the bank do not get women wet (and therefore doesn't improve SMV), but qualities that can make someone have money as well as improved physical appearance thanks to being able to invest in o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:50 PM
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Yeah this is happening too: https://world.wng.org/content/sex_change_regret_silenced Where people regret it more than ever. Again, we don't allow people to cut their own feet off if they identify as an amputee, so why is it suddenly acceptable when it comes to genitalia? Edit: Nvm you're just brigading around bothering anyone who doesn't believe what you believe. I feel zero need to engage in such discourse when it's not in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:45 PM
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A person doesn't choose their genes in either case, but if you're talking about altering a grown adult's genetic composition and not a zygote's genetic composition, you have to have the agreement of the adult to perform that sort of medical procedure. You still haven't said when the pair bonding kicks in. Once prairie dogs pick a mate and have sex, they're done. They've made the bond, they're not going elsewhere. Is that what happens to humans in your scenario? It's fine I wanted to go to bed an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:42 PM
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They make more money but also spend more money. They aren't amassing riches for themselves. How are you defining "forcibly genemodded" in such a way that natural conception after coitus = altering a person so they are forced to be monogamous? Also you never said when this supposed monogamous pair bonding kicks in so people can't cheat. You mentioned the super computer, but not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 02:27 AM
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Extreme tournament sexual behavior results in harems. Soft tournament sexual behavior weeds out incompetence. I actually don't believe in abortion on a personal level, but in practicality it should be only legalized up to 12 weeks and beyond that for the safety of the mother, when the fetus severely malformed or not viable, and/or in cases of rape/incest. Forcible genemodding is wrong, just like abortion and circumcision by the same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 02:14 AM
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I see. I'm aware it's nuanced. This issue is nuanced. I find them comparable, so I'm comparing them. It's not a perfect comparison, just something for you to think about. I don't agree with altering human body composition without the consent of the individual being altered. I think it's evil. We seem to be at an impasse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 01:43 AM
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Can you please stop saying I'm evil? You're losing ground with convincing me. Yeah, they thought socialism was good. Ask the Venezuelans how good they've got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 01:31 AM
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Was I supposed to flash my pussy card? That doesn't make it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 01:22 AM
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I mean, you can do that, but I like being a little girl and feeling little compared to men. Very hard to find men who are smaller than me, so I'd be kinda screwed to get what I can in your set up. I'm not really interested in this "much better" because people will never allow their free will to be taken from them in such a way. It's just not feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 01:08 AM
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You can edit the OP. Besides, to discuss hypotheticals as being flawless utopian solutions sounds like what happened when marxism was presented. All fun and games being in utopia until Venezuela goes to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:58 AM
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Why isn't this in the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:53 AM
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You haven't actually defined what this new monogamous selection would be. How do people choose mates? Are they monogamous for life? When does the permanent pair bonding start? If people become monogamous for life, how do they choose new partners once they have selected the "for life" partner? You haven't convinced me because you haven't actually defined your new world order.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:34 AM
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How are you supposed to cement this alleged pairbonding? What if a man falls for a married woman? He's screwed because of your pair bonding! Better yet, what happens to people who pick poor partners? They are now doomed to them for life. That's a brilliant way to eliminate happiness. How about what happens when someone is raped? Does the pair bonding trigger then? Great, you're attached to a rapist? Let's make it worse, and drag pedophiles into the situation. You're going to magically erase sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:22 AM
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Ah but their new hormones dictate they can't choose. Dozens of little girls developed powerful crushes on pop stars, you think they should be doomed to pine over him forever because of monogamous pair bonding? But you'd take away someone's rights to institute your changes, right? Okay, what happens if people fall in love with someone utterly incompatible for them, or unavailable people? That would be utterly cruel, would it not, to leave them lonely for life? The only reason you'd disagree, is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 12:10 AM
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Who said anything about assigning men women? That's a strawman of my position. Fine, when partners are selected as soon as the sex drives kick in? That could be as early as 10-11 in some children. I understand there would be oppression during the transition So you don't care about free will? You're confirming that free will and bodily autonomy don't matter to you? but that is nothing compared to the obsolete brutality of tournament based selection. Men are killing each other over women in 1st wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:57 PM
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No worries, I appreciate you clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:55 PM
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I see what you mean now! Next time please say they're inversely correlated. I and the author agree, he discusses how women have stopped appreciating men in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:49 PM
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Thank you! I can't wait to get him home :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:45 PM
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As a dog gal I want to be represented. I'm offended and triggered. /s They're people who don't feel like they belong, so they demand to have their bodies altered to fit their delusions, and when they still feel like there is something wrong they demand others validate them because they can't do it themselves. Yet the suicide rates stay high. Oh, and no, the government should not pay for such things. We don't pay for people to chop off their own feet because they identify as an amputee, why shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:44 PM
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So less tax money into women will decrease their wallets. So men will then be less present, because the smaller wallets correlate with less presence of fathers. This helps... how?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:36 PM
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Really? Assign men women at 16 and they'll just magically work hard? Try again at 18, oh no, still immature dumb fucks. Men are not selfless. Women are not selfless. You need to incentivize them if you want them to give up their commodity. Genetic modification at that level requires consent, which not all people will consent to. You'll never have your utopia without oppressing dissentors, and men will never be selfless like you want because humans are not selfless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:24 PM
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We don't need violence anymore, but men who are not productive or sexy are not to be rewarded with sex. Thus we continue in our tournament species' way, with Chads at the top and betas fighting over who has the bigger wallet. What happens if you change that? Men have zero incentive to work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 10:56 PM
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They clearly don't feel they matter in their personal lives, so they need the government to validate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 10:49 PM
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I'd like to, yes. See, we still agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:47 PM
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Man I like you but we gotta find something to disagree on, this whole same page thing is too easy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:30 PM
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There's one dude around here who refuses to marry this homeless chick but he cleaned her up and set up a bunch of rules for her to live by. She doesn't have to work and he demands everyone around him treat her as they would a wife. Maybe that's the long term solution for men XD
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:22 PM
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If you take the interpretation that money can buy you attractiveness, I hear you. But the actual zeros in the bank account don't get women wet. Wealth symbols also don't get women going in an SMV way because as we know, women don't want the short, mousy guy who has daddy's money, they want the tall, muscular man who rocks their world (think Dirty Dancing). Traits that help you acquire wealth can be sexy, such as intelligence, social skills, and/or ruthlessness. I agree that RMV considerations ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:20 PM
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I hear you on the symbols of wealth making a man more attractive, but I don't interpret status that way. Status to me is how other men treat the man you're interested in. Is he respectable? Do other men defer to his opinion or concede his intelligence? Does he dominate with high social skills? Is he the most physically imposing? They are more likely to defer to a business man than a fry cook, but to me that's because the business man has proven he's a) intelligent, b) sociable, and c) ruthless e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:13 PM
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If we're going by conca's interpretation, I can agree that is affects SMV. I wasn't really thinking of what you could do with the money in terms of appearance, more whether having lots of zeros in bank accounts actually gets women wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:47 AM
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You know it's bad when loneliness-inc says so /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 06:03 AM
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Wealth boosts RMV, not SMV. It does not affect women in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:27 AM
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I remember that XD
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:41 AM
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He I think has defined the place as plate school. I remember trying to find a comment he made only to find endless comments on internet smut. Nothing wrong with a healthy sex drive but lots wrong with an extremely biased male imperative being heralded as a quality contributor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:04 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/EPw2K1y This is him, he's a little skinny and skittish but I don't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 03:34 AM
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A rescue from my work. It's taking a while to get the apartment ready for him and I'm getting impatient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 03:08 AM
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It's a lot easier to blame men than to OYS. Men have the same problem over at TRP, hence the anger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:33 AM
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MRP is basically men trying to save marriages through Red Pill teachings. RP Christians is Red Pill teachings but with morality and "how to evangelize your unicorn" involved. I started to really dislike RPW when a user by the name of loneliness-inc started commenting more and more and posting more and more. It's obvious (to me at least) that his advice is counter productive and more likely to get you plated than a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:12 AM
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I see. Thank you for clarifying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:04 AM
1

marriage is the closest thing to a panacea men can get. What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:56 AM
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I found RPW before I found PPD, and I'm hoping whitebunny makes RPWives how I wanted RPW to be -- a feminine space for women discussing how to manage and take care of their relationships. If I wanted to hear from men how they take care of their relationships in a RP fashion, I'd go to MRP or Christian RP, so RPW has become disappointing for me. I'm still subscribed for the sidebar content, but I don't think it'll last much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:52 AM
1

Deen is infinitely hotter. Driver is trash imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 08:59 PM
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I agree. Do you think anything should be done to encourage father involvement?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:13 PM
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Women are absolutely more sexist. They control social shaming of both men and women. Most men don't attack women for the way they mother their children, but women have zero problem going for the jugular if a woman is a SAHM or a career mom and they don't approve. At the same time, they're the ones who say "a real man does ____".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 11:16 AM
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Most of them don't blame her, they just don't want to lose what time they do with the kids by pissing her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 11:00 AM
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I agree with a lot of what you said here. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:53 AM
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I hope they could find good women who respect them and also challenge them to be the best they can be, but they are in short supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:52 AM
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They are more often pushed aside by their mothers than abandoning their children. Most men in men's groups regret that they don't see their kids much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:44 AM
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Women are red pilled. We're taught that men only want "one thing", and then proceed to put them through the ringer to get commitment in exchange for sex. Now, if you want to learn how to snag and keep a man? That takes a bit of finesse. I advise research into love languages and both RPW subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:42 AM
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Since always. Not having a high class wife is what makes them low status, the mistresses thing was acceptable because they were just side chicks, not multiple primaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:37 AM
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Grow up. Anything you do is under your control, no matter how salty you are about her sexual past. You wanted to cheat, you got angry, you rationalized. Own your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:36 AM
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Is that the only response you have, or would you like to make a comment on anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:27 AM
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Thank you for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:24 AM
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Extra mandated time is a good thing. Needs to be more of a public perception shift that kids spending time with their father is good for them (though obviously not in all cases, I'm pretty sure a judge could catch that though). Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:24 AM
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The author (and I) agrees that stepdads are better than no dad, but there are risks to stepfathers and they do not generally provide the same benefits as biodads. That being said, I have a great relationship with my stepdad so please do not think my goal is to knock stepparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:20 AM
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Just because parents are divorced doesn't mean that a father can't play an important part in his children's lives. My parents were divorced when I was young and I still saw my father every weekend, and was able to call him up anytime I wanted to. Men not spending time in their children's lives is usually a choice of the father, not a result of divorce filings. This is true to a degree, but most men feel as if their families don't want them around anymore, and eventually give ground because the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:18 AM
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1) He does. Involvement is the criteria he uses, so quality / quantity of time. 2) It's growing in some way, but it also needs to be quality dad time that isn't constrained by mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:17 AM
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I'm worried about the next generation of men, because I want to have kids and I want any sons I have to do as well as any daughters I have. That's why I don't want to let such things go.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:16 AM
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It's difficult to sum up, it's a dense book.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:07 AM
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Thank you for sharing. You sound like a great dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:07 AM
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He personally noted that when he spoke out against thoughtless divorce because of the studies on children lacking their fathers, the National Organization of Women (he was on the board at the time) refused to run any articles on it because they didn't want to alienate viewers. So I think divorce heralded the push towards OOW births.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:05 AM
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Considering Gen Z is polling as more conservative than Millennials, this sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:01 AM
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What do you think should be done then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:55 AM
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I don't think men would flock to childcare roles as a job, and it's male influence that children are suffering from, not female influence. Elementary schools are 90% staffed by female teachers, there are plenty of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:54 AM
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Absolutely. This author was a huge part of the 2nd wave feminist movement (was elected to the board of the National Organization for Women), he knows how important it is for people to have the right to divorce. But overwhelmingly he also saw that dads needed to be present. I am (like I believe he is) unsure of how to proceed to help the next generation and keep people free from hateful marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:51 AM
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You said it, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:49 AM
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How did you come to this conclusion? The presence of fathers is the primary factor, not the size of their wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:47 AM
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These numbers don't just reflect dads who bailed or divorced, but also dads who do not spend a significant amount of time with their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:46 AM
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It does different things. This book specifically addresses the effects fathers have on children, be they single fathers, present but unmarried, stepdads, or married bio-dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:44 AM
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So you think there's a different cause? Would you like to add your two cents?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 08:26 PM
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You can do that, but that's equivalent to the majority of men going MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 11:33 AM
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That 36% is simply women under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 10:26 AM
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Involved dads aren't always married dads. Sometimes married dads have better stats that divorced or unmarried dads, but a dad who is there for their kids is the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 03:22 AM
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He does get into that in the book, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 12:36 AM
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I'm sorry that happened to you. I was in a similar situation as a child so I truly empathize. What do you think should be done to decrease divorce rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 12:11 AM
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The percentage of white children born out of wedlock now is 36%. What do you suppose we should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 12:08 AM
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found reven's alt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 12:06 AM
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Yes yes, we have your post on this saved, we get it. When you want to have fun please join us merry debaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 12:05 AM
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I think a lot of posters have pretty good relationships, which is why they argue their beliefs so hard -- "it works for me, so why don't other people agree" seems to be a running theme.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 12:04 AM
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Thanks! It's been on my mind for awhile and Smoogs' post finally got me off my ass. Does this get backed up in the book? Would love some data points on that. Yes! 1) Children living with married bio dad do significantly better academically than those living with a stepdad. 2) Children between the ages of 10-17 with their bio parents together, adoptive parents together, or single parents are significantly less likely to experience sexual abuse or domestic violence than families with a stepparent.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 12:01 AM
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Okay, fine. What variables do you think could use some improvement?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:46 PM
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I just want to bring my new dog home. Simple request.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:46 PM
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Pretty sure men think about their exes too. It's not a big deal, just a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:44 PM
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The problem inherent here is that women are attracted to far more than appearance. If women would be satisfied with masculine looking men who were quite feminine in behavior, perhaps that would be the answer. But women are not, as evidenced by the other thread about submissive men. Men don't face this attraction problem, because physical beauty sways them significantly more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:31 PM
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Awww, thanks friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:01 PM
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1) No. Certain things have benefited certain men in the past, but overwhelmingly 3rd/4th wave feminism is not for men. 2) No. 3) Yes. Women can be breadwinners, mothers, or a mix of the both. Men can only be breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:58 PM
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It's not wrong, I've just deemed it to be a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:49 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 07:28 PM
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It's a mix, but I also have pretty diverse preferences. My boyfriend is more selective about women than I am of men (visually, anyways).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:47 PM
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It's definitely closer to absolute, but I'm not going to swear that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:42 PM
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To me there are definitely differences between even a 7 and 7.5. No way would I lump a 7.5 in with an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:38 PM
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Thanks Salty!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:01 PM
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Concaaaaaa <3
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:01 PM
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Saying 8s appeal to a larger percentage is not the same as absolutist lookism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:55 PM
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Absolutist lookism is scientifically proven Yeah yeah yeah. Explain why the 7s give/gave me more tingles than the 8 then. On another note, why are you active here 24/7? I see you EVERYWHERE on this sub. I like to debate and I have very few social outlets otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:36 PM
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Chad is the archetype of the guy who will steal you girl. He isn't a real person. He's a metaphor. That's what you misunderstand - you think everything TRP said is literal. It's not. That's why he's always at the top of the hierarchy, and why he is a 10. And statistically speaking yes, but you have to understand that 5 = 5.0, and 6 = 6.0. You need to include information for 5.5s, 6.7s, etc. There needs to be nuance, and both your chart and absolutist lookism lack it. And if women are incapable o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:21 PM
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Yeah your charts suck. Both of them have massive 5 to 6 jumps. Again, Chad is not a 7 on that scale. He is the top of the scale. He is the guy who will always steal your girl with no effort. The fact that you don't understand this means you don't have reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:07 PM
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Nobody has mathematically perfect craniofacial harmony though. Okay. Doesn't change my rating. So "just be chad" theory confirmed? You were saying you don't like chads, but looks like you date only chads. Nothing wrong with doing that, but dishonest much? I said I don't care about dating Chads, not that I wouldn't date a Chad. Again Chad by my definition is a 9 or 10. They were not 9-10s. You might feel they were Chads but I don't really care about your feelings. Edit: neither of your links work…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:45 PM
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I think that's like a personal preference category, like a 9 with nutmeg might be a 10 to one person while a 9 with cinnamon is just a 9. Edit: whipped cream indicates dad bod, or that she thicc AF
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:29 PM
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For men - are they hot enough to be compared to a pumpkin spice latte? For women - are they hot enough that you would be willing to buy them a pumpkin spice latte?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:23 PM
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Yeah I don't agree with 10s not existing. I met one 10 and I literally could not find the air to breathe, it was ridiculous. My current boyfriend had multiple female orbiters and still kind of has one. The ex before him had/has multiple female orbiters. The ex before him was hot enough that we had a group chat on our dorm's floor for when he'd shower so we could see him walk around shirtless. All three are in the 7-8 range, with the third being a strong 8. Can you send me a link to this scale yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:21 PM
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I don't know what PSL is. Imo Chad tier is 9-10, same as Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:05 PM
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I mean, they were 7-8s. They weren't the hottest guys in school but they weren't incel material. I don't know what kind of answer you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:02 PM
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manlets Lmfao They've all been attractive enough to have had multiple GFs without much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 03:16 PM
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This is more a stab at MGTOW and incels for being all butthurt about Chad than my actual preference in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:58 PM
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Don't look at me, I'm always right /s Maybe one day being productive will trump being perceived as "right". Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:40 PM
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Well, I guess I did know why. I just think it's such a waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:35 PM
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Most people don't want to debate their ideas, so we're already a weird bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:02 PM
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When I was far more feminist, I had similar issues, but they always clashed really hard with how I actually wanted my relationships to run. It caused a pretty severe yo-yo effect where I'd be a hyper feminist bitch one day and excessively subservient to make up for it the next. In the middle is someone who stands up for her own feelings but doesn't yell or bitch and who likes making her boyfriend dinner. I'm a lot happier this way, so I don't know why other women don't make the switch themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:47 PM
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I'm kind of a weird mishmash so I'm just gonna write who I respect and leave it at that. Red Pill: Lewis's liberal use of all caps amuses me, GreasyPole is very fun to talk to, Sado usually makes good (even if savage) points, Atlas is great at pointing out that most users lack historical context Edit: I somehow forgot Salty and I feel awful :( Purple: Conca, Benzos, and Smoogs' are all fun to talk to (I agree with them a lot) Blue: Sublime makes some of the best arguments for the blue team, Penn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:11 AM
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This is my comment but 5' instead of 5' 1".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:58 AM
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The point of the comment is that Elliot Rodger was a "gentlemanly incel" and he was horrifically violent. Murder and rape are in the same camp (violence-wise) as far as I'm concerned, so I'm disputing that gentlemanly incels wouldn't rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:52 AM
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Both of my parents had multiple marriages that ended messily, so it's more just how I view divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 10:50 AM
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I mean she's openly admitting to settling for him. There's a difference between a woman saying "I prefer the slim soccer player look" and "you're slim but you've got a great wallet, I mean, personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:49 AM
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Please don't misquote me. The female sex drive on average is lower than the male sex drive. This is simply fact. What does a man have to offer a woman to get sex if she doesn't also want sex as much as she does?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:47 AM
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I love this! When should we expect the next post?
/r/RedPillWives20/06/18 01:41 AM
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Women don't want sex as much as men do on average. That'd be like trading a dollar for a peso.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:41 AM
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Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:34 AM
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Trying to live with them is hard Men generally do like to live with their girlfriends. I was specifically targeting the fact that people are difficult. Men may not be pursuing marriage as much, but they're pursuing regular sex infinitely more than women are. Why should women agree to that when men are such a bother? The answer = either trade (sex for marriage) and accept that nature sucks, or don't trade and accept you'll have a tough time getting what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:30 AM
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Q4ALL: Women are a lot smaller than men and cannot defend themselves or their children from predators and other hostile humans as well as men can. Aggressive men that you can persuade to defend your body and progeny (through sex) will defend you better than a man who hides behind you. Personally, I really like being with men who've dedicated some time to self defense training, but I'm also 5 feet tall so I need all the man I can get XD
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:24 AM
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Listen I'm sorry that women go through menopause, but it is not men's fault that women go through it. Most idiotic claim I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:18 AM
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I think the real truth is you can change out the word "women" for "people". People suck. Trying to live with them is really hard. That's true regardless of their demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:09 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:04 AM
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I want to get married because I want a stable home for my family. I'd sign a pre-nup if he wanted, but I'm likely to make more than him in the end so he's not too screwed if we split up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:50 PM
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That's what Elliot Rodger said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:47 PM
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I kind of did - I'm more forgiving of women now than I used to be because I used to first get mad at women for giving into the patriarchy and then I would get mad at women for not being as good as men. Now I see that women just behave differently than men, and that's okay. It's nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:42 PM
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I'm just happy for the guys. They didn't deserve what I did to them, so I'm glad they've recovered admirably.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:30 PM
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Lol, thanks hun. I spent a lot of months playing a two guys off one another, using them for attention, sex, and to a lesser degree money. Eventually I lost both of them and all of my friends who were friends with them rightfully shunned me, and was pretty much alone for a while. I realized how fucked my behavior was, and ended up apologizing to both about two years after (they are both doing much better now). Basically I lived AWALT and it made me miserable, so I try to control those tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:10 PM
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It's in my user history and I'm at work. Look for it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:51 PM
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I certainly hope so - and that's not patronizing at all. I mostly was commenting to say I find female perspectives so odd here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:34 PM
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We very much agree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:23 PM
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Well it pissed my mom off, so that's probably why they're scared to be honest. It certainly hurt my feelings as a kid, but as an adult we're pretty close and I really appreciate his honesty and place in my childhood so I think he did it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:22 PM
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Children are wonderful but that doesn't mean the same thing as wanting to father them. I think expecting men to not only like but also raise children that aren't theirs is simply unfair and unrealistic. And yeah a few days on here will illuminate that many women expect the commitment and comfort parts of relationships to replace the desire for sex. It's a part of the whole 'wives and mothers don't do that' phenomenon. See it's very important to me that I stay a girlfriend even when I am also a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:21 PM
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As a woman who has been shitty, I personally did experience consequences. But I'm certain that I'm not a frequent case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:15 PM
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There are really women who don't know those things? The main reason men commit is for regular sex, and my stepdad made it abundantly clear that while he did like me as a person, I was not his kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:44 PM
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When I was first becoming more conservative, I was extremely anti-feminist and very pro-men. This sub reminded me that men are human and have ugly sides too, and that it's not just women that are flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:41 PM
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Are you speaking negatively about making one's relationships easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:38 AM
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You're welcome ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:54 PM
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So if a woman's libido is not activated, yet she has sex anyways because she wants her husband to feel good, you think that is rape? She feels positive about the encounter, yet did not orgasm. He asked her if she wanted to have sex, and she said yes selflessly. Is that rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:23 PM
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I'm quite earnest regarding relationships of any kind, so I speak bluntly. I'd rather have an awkward conversation than be unsure of where I stand. The men I have been with usually find it surprising but refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:20 PM
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If I thought it was obvious I'd probably tease him a bit, but no it's not offensive. I appreciate someone being candid and open with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:15 PM
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I'm not sure I'm interpreting your question correctly. Do you mean that in short term relationships I have had and I have not wanted to expand it to a long term relationship, would I be offended if they also did not want to expand it to a long term relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:08 PM
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If this woman maintains her behavior throughout the marriage, then at worst she's manipulating her possible husband into being happy. That's what a happy marriage is, no? Two people manipulating circumstances to make each other happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:04 PM
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I would rather a guy be honest with me and say "I'm just not that into you" rather than hang around just because he feels bad. In return, I am honest with prospective partners and my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:00 PM
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Yes, I'm intimately aware. I spent 5 years in one sexual abusive situation and 2 years in another. But are you still comparing someone doing a kindness for their husband to rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 10:14 PM
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Of course. They should be honest that they are not sure where they stand, and then they need to be upfront as soon as they do know. It does take introspection and maturity (which seems to be in short supply) but it can be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 09:01 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 09:00 PM
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I mean some women ask men out. I have. Some men find that emasculating though, so it depends on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:56 PM
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He is, lol. I desire him plenty - I pretty much classify as hypersexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:54 PM
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Well I can't fake C cups boobs. I can't fake a 27 cm waist and 35 cm ass. I can't fake my rate me post that has my pictures on reddit that clearly demonstrate I'm good looking to those men, at least. I don't like social media because it's so superficial. Why would I want useless male sexual attention when my real desires point towards human connection and discussion about the human condition?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:52 PM
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He's not my husband. I was 14 when I met him. We dated for 3 months. We broke up because he was too nervous to kiss me. I am 21 now, we've been dating for 2 years. I mean the sex was good but the emotional rollercoasters were not. Sex with the boyfriend is great so it's not like he's missing out. He knows my sexual history, and I know his. It didn't change his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:49 PM
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Marital rape is a thing. I didn't say it wasn't. A woman who decides to help her husband out with his orgasm even though she's not feeling it is not being raped. She is choosing to have sex with him because she wants him to feel good regardless of her own desires. Are you seriously comparing that to violent rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:47 PM
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My opinion on what both men and women should do: If you meet someone and you like them romantically, you should just ask them out or if they are interested. If you fuck someone and you like them romantically, you should just ask them out or if they are interested. If you are asked out by someone and you don't like them romantically, you should make this clear. If you fuck someone and you don't like them romantically, you should make this clear. It doesn't seem particularly complicated to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:45 PM
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My response would (if my boyfriend asked me this) be that he was the fun one. I broke up with the ones who were not right for me so clearly he's the fun phase of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:42 PM
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1&3)That's why they're the ones who propose, right? 2) Funny, women are more likely to get upset if their partner gains weight than the reverse. 4, 5 & 6) That's why they marry women who make less money than them, right? 7) Yes, that's why more dads than ever are involved with childrearing and SAHDs are at an all time high! 8) Weird because that was more important to both my Dads than to my Mom... 9) LOL. Never have I ever heard this in my life. I have three brothers too. 10) Yes that's why my D…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:36 PM
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Because I'm early twenties, not overweight, have C cups (nicely shaped too), a rocking booty, a flat stomach, decent facial bone structure, large eyes, and wide, full lips.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:30 PM
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No. This is insulting towards women who have actually been traumatically sexually abused to call helping your partner out with an orgasm because you're just not feeling it "rape".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:23 PM
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It's because I'm attractive I'd rather be on reddit. I want people to actually debate me and challenge me, not just pat me on the head and ignore me because I'm a cute little girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:17 PM
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Women created traditional masculinity. They wanted strong males who would make strong children, and so would sit back and watch while men duked it out, then fucked the victors. No woman wants to fuck the Dolphins quarterback, they want Tom Brady. As for what they should do? Women should accept their STR desires and figure out how to balance STR desires with their LTR desires. It's not difficult if you're remotely capable of introspection. That means pursuing men who are masculine, but not so mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 05:42 PM
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I don't think this user is gonna last long around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 05:24 PM
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0 reason to believe you but w/e. So then why the blank slate arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:38 PM
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INFJs are very likely to mistype anyways, because Ni is a difficult function to understand and in INFJs it works in conjunction with Ti. I very much doubt you're INTP - quicklogaccount is a great example of one and your text speech is nothing like his.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:35 PM
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1) Downvoting is banned here. 2) Catch up on the psychological literature and then come talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:31 PM
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I thank my lucky stars every day lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:19 PM
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Yeah, pretty sure he's doing it for a green card and she's doing it because she's desperate to have kids. She's the perfect RP example of an overweight post wall SJW woman, it's really sad when I know she did this to herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:51 PM
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Your first argument about women being conditioned is false. Sex differences increase in egalitarian societies, and blank slatism has been disproven in the psychological community.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:26 AM
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Well it depends on how you ask the question. If you ask someone point blank "are you a feminist" the answer is about 20%. If you differentiate between strong feminist and regular feminist, the numbers go way up. Most women are also misinformed about the issues. They don't know the wage gap isn't real. They don't know that more women are going to college than men are. They think women are still playing catch up, and that's simply not true. Technically I could identify as feminist, but only with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:15 AM
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Married now. Known the guy for 3 months, got engaged, and was married 4 months after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 11:10 AM
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It's like saying "someone's German" when relating to their culture. They may differentiate from other Germans for xyz reason (usually big 5 reasons) but it works as a heuristic. MBTI works the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:12 AM
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My sister did this. Dated a guy for three months and announced she was engaged. Not worth fighting about - brand new love is addictive and sanity isn't relevant. I don't think it'll last but I hope she will prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 12:09 AM
1

Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 06:15 PM
3

Weird because only 20% of women say yes when asked if they're a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 05:23 PM
1

I don't have a bachelor's degree and I'm a tradeswoman. We would never date lol, it's not a scenario I have to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 12:41 PM
1

Oh you mean a combined program? Oh fuck that, I'm not smart enough for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 12:31 PM
1

Derms don't have that long of a residency, and a psychiatrist who isn't socially capable enough to have had a girlfriend already would concerning to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 12:25 PM
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1) Comment stalker :P 2) I don't think I'm suited to be with a surgeon, much less a 35 yo virgin, but I suppose if it happened I'd consider it. But he would have to be a really good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 12:21 PM
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SMV: Strong six to soft eight when I dress up and wear make up. I've gained a lil weight so my chest and butt are bigger but my midsection is still slim so maybe I'm a true seven now for the ass guys. (If you want pics stalk my post history, they're in there somewhere). RMV: Four at best. I'm moody AF, I barely cook, I hate cleaning, and I'm a workaholic. But I'll talk all night long about philosophy, politics, psychology - if it's about the human condition, I'm into it - so at least I'm interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 11:36 AM
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In all cases of depreciation, they already had good bone structure and either a) gained weight b) developed skin issues and/or c) had a shitty attitude that aged them prematurely. In the reverse, they either lost weight, cleared up their skin or fixed their attitude (with good bone structure underneath).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 11:20 AM
1

I just wanna be with a guy who can make me laugh when I'm pissed at him. That's all I need.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 04:20 AM
1

Yo, where my other ENFPs at? I know PennyLame is one
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 04:15 AM
1

Libertarianism. That's what I transitioned to from SJWhood. Never quite hit radfem status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 10:01 PM
1

Come to the dark side, we have cookies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 06:24 PM
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There's still a lot of residual baggage. If he truly believed, he probably still believes in a lot of the values the church espouses, just not in God anymore. Plus then you have to deal with his baggage of "oh I left my community my family is so disappointed" and all that whining. It's just not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 10:49 AM
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Then he'll be so anxious and fucked up with guilt because of pre-marital sex you still can't get him up. Not worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 10:44 AM
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Good for you, that must've been really difficult to achieve. I can make anywhere in the 50-70k range depending on how hard / much I work (dog grooming). He's making 71k at his new job. It's a pretty sweet deal when neither of us have any debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:30 AM
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He's a brand new engineer, I assumed you were younger as most redditors are in the 18-25 range so they're not making >100k.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:25 AM
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I could make as much as my engineer boyfriend and I groom dogs. A good income is doable, you just have to have the work ethic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:11 AM
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That's a two inch heel, technically not flats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:05 AM
1

A GED is a high school diploma equivalent so drop outs can work their way out of their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:44 AM
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I usually smile or ignore it, depending on my mood. When I was single and the guy was attractive I'd return the staring with a sly smile to see if he'd walk up to me. If not, I'd wander over to him eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 01:39 AM
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I think they call themselves currycels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 09:46 PM
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Yeah but just as much as it sucks to have other languages neglected, it's painful to be untouched. I don't mind doing other things for my boyfriend but I crave touch in a way he just doesn't understand and frequently forgets, and I suspect most men feel the way I do except worse because men can't touch other men or women indiscriminately, while as a woman I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:33 PM
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Don't downvote. If a guy uses TRP to get laid and doesn't tell the girl, how would the girl know if it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:15 PM
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My primaries are physical touch and quality time. His are quality time and acts of service. We hang out a lot and if I do things for him (run an errand for him, pick up some beer, etc) I get extra snuggles. Win-win. Edit: Female, reddish-purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:13 PM
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Wanting to touch and be touched is part and parcel to being a social animal. Seems pretty normal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:10 PM
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Why are you asking us? We're not the ones trying to become players.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:06 PM
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There are two things that make a guy good in bed - really good mental game (dirty talking, kink, dominant behavior) and really good physical game (optimal hands / mouth / hip movement). It has nothing to do with their overall attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:03 PM
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I didn't enter the relationships right away because I didn't think they'd have said yes to me asking them out that fast, but I knew within the first day of seeing them in person that I was gonna date them (and I've been right everytime). Two in highschool, one in a brief stint of university. I know it was the same for one of them but I don't know about the other two.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 11:21 AM
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I find this to be fairly accurate to my tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 11:12 PM
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1 is puffy and has a near double chin, and her face isn't symmetrical. Overweight + poor genetics, pass. 5 again lacks facial symmetry, is puffy, and needs to drink some damn water. Pass. 9 has the best face but her chin and mouth shape make her look very unkissable. Also she looks jaundiced. Pass. I'm a bisexual woman so I do find women sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 11:03 PM
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To me all of them were ugly before make up, they all looked puffy (aka fat) or had wide, masculine faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 10:43 PM
2

Yeah about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 10:29 PM
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When I argued against you in the previous thread, it was specifically that multitudes of partners do not boost status (in my opinion) because there is a difference between a man who is attractive to many women but is choosy and a flat out manwhore. A committed partner who is obviously attractive is most definitely a boost to one's status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:25 PM
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Q4HL: Yes, enthusiasm is important. It sucks when you're really feeling it and they're not. That is how you get a girl's hamster into overdrive. Q4W: There have been times where I'm not as responsive or I'm in a gentler mood than I usually am but that's not often. When that's the case usually there's something seriously bothering me emotionally that is keeping me from being fully engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 06:41 PM
2

Many of us adult Americans are actually children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 06:30 PM
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I believe you, they've just always hated me on principle and then after that one that nearly got my face I was done trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 01:31 PM
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Yeah well natural make up can be a huge mask, easily can make a 5 a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 01:27 PM
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Find 7s without make up and then we'll talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 01:26 PM
1

Happy cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 12:25 AM
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What's funny is OP's 7s apparently don't need make up yet most of them are wearing make up...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 12:25 AM
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I mean, that's what IOIs are for, right? The relatively universal cues? Show me a study that shows something to the extent of "a woman twirling her hair around her fingers is directly associated with her willingness to perform anal". This is such an exaggeration of my point that it's not even worth debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:44 PM
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Body language is a pretty universal language, but a woman's preferences are individual. Her preferences will dictate her body language, and those cues are pretty universal regardless of who she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 11:31 PM
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That's amazing. I'm a few years away from starting my business so I definitely envy your position if that makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:46 PM
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Thank you! I know you're working on your own venture as well, I hope it goes well!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:33 PM
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I do great with other really bitchy breeds (I love terriers, Dachshunds, Shibas, etc) but even before then Chows just didn't like me. I don't know what it is. I do know that they are downright wonderful with their own families, so you are blessed :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 08:19 PM
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Oh, for some reason I thought you were OP. My bad. I'll respond to the edit you made earlier in the thread so I'm not wasting a comment. I haven't made a comprehensive list of dealbreakers, I simply say what I can live with. "I want to be healthy and to be with a partner who is healthy. It really bothered me that x family member struggled with weight. Please keep an eye on your health, and I will do the same." It's just a conversation we had. We didn't make some extremely clinical list with very…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 08:08 PM
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"Is It Ever Valid To Leave A Marriage Or Lifelong LTR Due To Lack Of Attraction" is your own title. So... Yes. You did. I'm answering within those parameters. Edit: I was wrong here, I thought quicklog was OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:59 PM
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You yourself stipulated that marriage and lifelong LTR were the parameters to discuss. Edit: I was wrong here, I thought quicklog was OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:54 PM
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I'm not married, and since my SO and I have not said "we intend to commit forever without getting married", this stipulation does not apply to me. That being said, I've been fairly honest always whenever something would be a dealbreaker, and I believe he has been as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:50 PM
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It was not my favorite day, no. I haven't had to deal with another one since, so I'm probably overthinking their temperament.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:46 PM
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Yes. I would snap the line at around 10 girls, maybe 15 if I really liked him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:40 PM
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When you enter a marriage or lifelong LTR, there are certain expectations that your partner needs to uphold. That dynamic is forged between those two people, and is unique to them. For some people, it is a dealbreaker for their partner to gain weight. Anything that is a dealbreaker, imo, needs to be stated before you commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:33 PM
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I don't care about any of what you just said. My whole point is that you have to be able to read body language to know if it's an appropriate time to approach. It is not that hard to read someone's body language. It may or may not be hard for someone to approach, have a witty line, be successful in getting his/her attention, whatever. I don't give a flying fuck. It is not that difficult to read body language. That is all you need regarding when to approach. That. Is. All.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:27 PM
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Awww, Gin, you had to have the one breed that I have serious anxiety over (one got about half an inch from tearing open my face). Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:24 PM
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There's a difference between "oh well he's had a few girlfriends so he's probably not a psycho" and "he's fucked a dozen girls (or more)". Man whore describes the second - at some point the accumulation becomes gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:23 PM
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If you say so. I never got tingles from man whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:14 PM
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Dog grooming. I already have experience, now I'm just scoping out locations, building a clientele, and gaining capital.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:13 PM
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Start my own business and raise a family. That's pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:11 PM
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Q4W: No. I talk about men as if they're a commodity, I don't see why men should behave any differently. Q4All: Male status is gained in order to accumulate and/or seduce desirable women, so your question is backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 07:08 PM
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I've approached men, so I know what approaching is like. I also have suffered from debilitating anxiety, so I know what that is like. That doesn't make body language impossible to read. I said this in another comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:48 PM
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It was founded upon Christian ideals (even with the separation of church and state if you understand the roots of the enlightenment then you understand that it's Judeo-Christian in philosophy) and they're still the foundation of this nation's constitution. That is what makes it a Christian nation, not whether or not the country is uniformly Christian or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 05:41 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 05:15 PM
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Reread the entire comment thread to see why this is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 05:14 PM
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Okay, in my experience they are not. I've been at parties in interested in being hit on, but the guy's approach rubbed me the wrong way and I felt really creeped out. The when was right, the how was wrong. Meanwhile I've been at work and really not in the mood for it, but the guy was very nice and took the letdown well. The when was wrong, the how was right. They are not interconnected for me, and I don't think they are interconnected for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 05:13 PM
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If it's a less Christian nation, where are the anti-LGBT people coming from then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 03:46 PM
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Just warning you, it is a lot messier and more frustrating than you can possibly prepare for - it's a lot like working with kids, except the kids don't speak a translatable language and they bite a lot harder.
/r/RedPillWives12/06/18 03:46 PM
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My aunt and uncle (while childless) exemplify what I want my relationship to be. They are always making each other laugh, they think of themselves as a unit, and when it's time to work they work until the work is done. I saw a very similar dynamic in my former boss's marriage, and their kids also shared this hardworking yet easy going attitude. Both couples have been married for 30+ years through tremendously trying times -- my aunt and uncle managed living together on a tiny sailboat, and my fo…
/r/RedPillWives12/06/18 11:25 AM
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Hi, I'm carefree. I'm 21 and my boyfriend is 23. We've been together for a little over two years and lived together for about 18 months. Neither of us were raised tradcon, but our mutual fascination with people and how relationships operate brought me to actively research Red Pill thought and we're both fairly reddish purple is our attitudes. Our dynamic is realistic egalitarian - we're teammates but whoever has the most experience or has done more research takes point. That being said he's defi…
/r/RedPillWives12/06/18 11:03 AM
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Whether or not a man is considered creepy is based on how they approach, not when they approach. So again, not related.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 10:39 AM
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The underground anti-LBGT crowd just dislikes them for no reason then, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 10:35 AM
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I mean considering all the negative talk I heard in the supposedly progressive Northeast it's more Christian than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:45 PM
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That's reality. It sucks for men, but it's their reality. If they want to get laid and/or have a happy, fulfilling relationship, they have to stick their necks out. This has literally nothing to do with when it's appropriate to approach. That right there has to do with reading body language. And considering that men seem to have to do all this approaching, it would follow that they should be better at it because they spend all this time looking at women from afar wondering "is it rape-y if I tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 09:05 PM
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I was on a college campus in New England and it was the 21 somethings and under.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:16 PM
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I was on a college campus in New England and it was the 21 somethings and under.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:16 PM
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I grew up in a liberal stronghold and it's still talked about behind closed doors. Change only happened a few years ago, it'll take a very long time before it's not considered taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:02 PM
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Just because nobody bats an eye in public doesn't mean it doesn't still carry sexual taboo in porn. The US is still a fairly Christian nation, there's a lot of talk behind closed doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 07:52 PM
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When I say "it isn't hard", I don't mean that approaching isn't hard, I mean reading body language isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 06:48 PM
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I don't really care if men have different standards for me than women do for men. I still understood when I approached that I had to be socially acceptable and I fought with a great deal of anxiety to even handle being near men. The only "absolute" when it comes to approaching is that you have to be watching her carefully. That is true of approaching men and women, just for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 06:39 PM
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That doesn't make body language impossible to read. None of what you said disproved that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 06:12 PM
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I have already defined what I hold to be true. There are two extremes but that doesn't mean they are at 100% and 0%. If you cannot understand what that means I cannot help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 06:11 PM
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If there are two extremes, then there are always and never You still misunderstand me. The "loves to flirt" will accept it 99% of the time, not 100%. The "hates to be bothered" will accept it 1% of the time. I don't know what those conditions are because lo and behold, it depends on the woman. There is no "absolute" here because human beings are messy and nuanced. Is that so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:35 PM
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I'm now imagining two canvasses trying to get their freak on. Thank you, I needed a laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:18 PM
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So you're extrapolating meaning I did not place myself. My original intent is that every woman is different regarding their approach preferences and you have to make those judgments in the moment - the two descriptions indicated the two extremes of the spectrum. I cannot believe I have to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:11 PM
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For most men, if they like one girl having a good time, they're gonna like it when there's two girls having a good time. Add in the taboo factor and it's a no brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:03 PM
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I did not say "forever" or "never" in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 05:02 PM
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I am. I've approached men, so I know what approaching is like. I also have suffered from debilitating anxiety, so I know what that is like. That doesn't make body language impossible to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 04:59 PM
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Said like someone with no experience on the matter. Said like someone who does not know my personal history whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:57 PM
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And this has to do with when it's appropriate to approach... How, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:45 PM
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Your desire for an erection is your own business. I fail to see how it relates to the subject at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:27 PM
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How someone approaches is not in question here, I'm addressing when.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:07 PM
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Because apparently you want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:05 PM
2

Hope you're okay in the end!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:22 PM
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This is absolutist nonsense. There is no "always". It's about reading social circumstances and the woman's body language. Some women hate to be bothered, some women love to flirt. It's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:19 PM
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Objectification is inherent to visually oriented human sexuality, imo. If the woman is visually oriented (not all are, but it's a sizeable minority) it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:15 AM
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This completely ignores the women who agonize over getting an abortion and grieves for the rest of her life. I'm pro-life personally but pro-choice for legislation because it is so much more nuanced than simple "it's murdering babies!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:56 AM
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I mean put a hot enough guy in front of a woman and she'll see him as only a jawline, broad shoulders and that yummy muscle V. Objectification is inherent to visually oriented human sexuality, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:47 AM
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I don't think anyone can change that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:09 AM
2

Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:08 AM
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1) Yes, because my sex drive doesn't really give me a choice. 2&3) The fact that he wouldn't just say "I'm not into period sex" so I could just let him know when it was coming is off putting. Hard next.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 01:56 AM
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My whole argument is that average doesn't equal median, and why men are considered unattractive is because they are below the median attractiveness even if they are average looking. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 03:21 PM
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Yeah when they're competing for xSxx men. N types demand a little more than appearance (even though obviously that's still very important).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 02:47 PM
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Except those men might be more attractive on paper or to look at but that's not the same thing as actually wanting to be with them because most of the time they aren't interested in highly abstract conversation. I've met frat kings that are extremely attractive SMV (like the only irl 9 I've ever seen) but all that interest turns right off when they can't discuss politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 02:38 PM
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I mean it depends on how you define high value. Are we talking about men who are across the board 9s in every measurable way? Okay, you're right then. But I define high value as 7 across the board and up, as that would be a full standard deviation up from 5, so we're talking 85th percentile of men and up. Now, if you're an abstract-thinking, ambiverted, intelligent woman, you should target abstract-thinking, ambiverted/introverted intelligent men. The competition for those men is not as steep be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 02:20 PM
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I don't feel like there is a lot of competition for commitment personally, and it isn't sex that I use to get commitment. Is that satisfactory?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:58 PM
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If you want a girl go talk to her. It's usually short girls that are picky about height anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:40 PM
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But it's not that hard to reform your attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:34 PM
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I know, that's why I don't understand how femcels exist but w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:31 PM
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Do you mean approach to talk or approach as in "hey we should go out"? I have never had an issue with approaching to talk to people, I'm pretty extroverted and I like introverts and shy extroverts so I have to do the leg work if I wanna get anywhere. I don't generally do the asking out, I just make my IOIs really obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:31 PM
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You asked if there was competition, I answered you. I've never had issues with getting attractive, intelligent, career-oriented men to LTR me or consider marriage. I'm a 6/10. You have to pick out the guys who are not interested in partying or sleeping around and then actually be interesting as well as someone who won't mooch off them, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 01:00 PM
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It doesn't matter unless we liked you enough to fuck you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:56 PM
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I totally misspoke there, I don't know what happened. I got the impression that median was the middle value out of the range of values (but apparently that's the midrange) which is why this post came out the way that it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:55 PM
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I was currently getting that women have similar standards regarding men as they did 20 years ago, but men are getting less healthy and fewer are meeting female standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:52 PM
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I think it's more powerful to know that when someone chooses to be with you they are fighting against the biological desire to sleep around, and they want you over other people. Plus relationships are hard work anyways. True love is being infuriated and grumpy for a week and still helping your partner out and buying them beer just 'cause you knew they'd want it even though he's been an asshole all week. It's not "happily ever after and they never fought or bickered". That'd be ridiculously borin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:51 PM
2

Have you known men which you would never consider dating options, who then changed in some way and then became attractive to you? What happened to change your view? Yes, I was bored. 14 year old me was stupid. Never again. Have you ever dated someone, initially been attracted to them, lost attraction due to some trait appearing (for instance, neediness) during the dating process, and then regained attraction again at a later point? If so - what happened? I've had ebbs and flows with every guy, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:46 PM
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I mean, you'd be surprised at the number of attractive men who don't like sleeping around. All it takes is being able to engage in stimulating conversation and make your own money (and obviously be attractive to them) and most men in that category have zero issues committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:42 PM
1

Unsurprising, since men are significantly less picky than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:47 AM
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You're not wrong, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 10:25 PM
1

He is below average. It's not the female's fault men overrate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 10:02 PM
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What? No. Median is the middle number, which does not have to equal the same thing as the average. The median male is a 5/10 but the average male is a 3/10 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 10:01 PM
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Oh it brings women's average lower, but men care less than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:59 PM
6

Awesome, there should be more people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:59 PM
1

If he's that jacked he's gonna look roided AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:28 PM
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You're not wrong, but that guy isn't going to get right swipes on a dating app, which is my entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:18 PM
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Don't forget that you can't judge N counts or say you're uncomfortable with a woman dressing promiscuously at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:03 PM
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The only thing that I've seen that makes a strong case against what I'm saying is that these numbers do not control for age, and 50-70 year olds skew the percentage way higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:01 PM
-1

No, that would be average. You're assuming attractiveness distributes normally, and because of the obesity epidemic it no longer does. Edit: Don't know where my head was at with this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:00 PM
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Yeah that's blobby AF
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 08:58 PM
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Invest money into bitcoin, teach my younger self how to work through her emotions and communicate in a productive way, get her started on healthy foods and a skincare routine, tell her to skip the college and go straight into her trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 08:58 PM
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Touche. I could not do multivaried analysis with the CDC's website though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 08:51 PM
1

Would you say that weight (and therefore current distribution of attractiveness) would be one such event that does not distribute "normally"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 08:49 PM
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That's ridiculous, women can be healthy weights at 5' at 115lbs. 5'9" men at 200 lbs would look ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 08:47 PM
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Never said they weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:58 PM
1

That point you made doesn't apply to the vast majority of men, considering more men are considered overweight vs women, while the percentages of men and women who are obese are fairly similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:57 PM
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Women are also healthier at higher body fat percentages though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:55 PM
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Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:53 PM
1

Yes, which is obvious. Men want women a whole lot more than women want men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:52 PM
1

Because 30-40 year olds divorcees don't use dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:52 PM
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Women don't rate 5/10 men as fat at all. Any overweight man therefore has to be "below the median" even if by current standards he is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:29 PM
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Yes, because they are below the median attractiveness. That's not the same as below average. That's all the post was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:26 PM
1

Men may rate based on averages, while women rate based on medians, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:44 PM
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Men are not 176, they're 196 on average. Look at the Gallup post in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:43 PM
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That's exactly what I meant to be saying. I just used the 1-10 rating system to give an easy round middle number. I agree that 50% of men are above and below the median, but that's what TRP mixes up - they assume that's how "average" stacks up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:42 PM
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That means that they're not on normal distribution curves at all though, which is when average and median are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:03 PM
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Where I live it's really bad, everyone's fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:57 PM
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Well they're the ones attaching hypergamy to the 80/20 rule, and I'm saying you can't do that if you even understand at all how the numbers even work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:54 PM
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Unfortunately I can't pull that up from the CDC numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:53 PM
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The median will deviate more because of the sheer number of men who are overweight or worse (70%), which is a controllable factor unlike height.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:51 PM
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Ah, I see
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:44 PM
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Even so that wouldn't account for 70% of the overweight/obese men. It doesn't detract from my point, that the real female decision metric is median attractiveness, not average attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:41 PM
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Because women are team "you go girl" and men are team "protect fragile women". Who is on team men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:39 PM
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I'm not disputing that men have less and less median women to choose from, but again men are less particular than women to begin with. I would make the same argument towards Tinder - it's not that there are less average men, just less median men. Edit: I also edited my post to reflect that I'm aware that more women are overweight on average than they used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:37 PM
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Men in general don't get a lot of responses on that sub, but this really should be coming as no surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 05:32 PM
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This is openly homophobic. I'm not judging but it's odd coming from a radfem. Our entire chemical, physical, and hormonal makeup is designed to drive us to nurture kids. Uh, I thought that feminism was about walking away from gender roles? Are you suggesting that's not the case, and our only purpose is to nurture kids? How sexist of you, Jams! Any time we allow single women or lesbian women to use sperm donation, they're circumventing survival of the fittest. Do you want to ban that too or just …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 04:54 PM
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But you didn't post a CMV, you posted a science thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 02:12 AM
1

Figuring out how to play video games well has the same biochemical reward as figuring out how to be good at life, except video games don't betray you and have set algorithms. RNG is the closest thing to luck in a video game and most other factors are fairly controllable, while in life much of it is controlled by other people who seem random and difficult to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 01:54 AM
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I never said any anime or video game usage at all does that. I thought it was clear that obsession with is a common problem in young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 12:42 AM
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Great read, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 12:35 AM
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It's an excuse to remain an endless child, and then men are confused why women don't want to fuck them. Between that and the "women said I should just be myself!!" crap, too many men are slipping through the cracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 12:12 AM
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You would love Warren Farrell. His most recent book is called "The Boy Crisis" and outlines over 70 different ways fathers uniquely help their children be better adults, and how boys are overwhelmingly damaged by losing this precious relationship after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 12:03 AM
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Which feminism and women have encouraged with the mantra of "Just be Yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 12:02 AM
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The kind of living with your parents you're doing is vastly different from someone who cannot afford or handle living outside their mother's basement. You're thinking logically about money and caring for your family members. To me those are huge green flags, so long as your actions and behavior around your parents match your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 12:01 AM
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He doesn't exist, he's the archetypal version of the guy who stole your girl, just like the Devil is the archetype of evil
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 09:35 PM
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Why would women want to be with men as they are now? Feminism has effectively castrated masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 09:03 PM
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I think everyone phrases it wrong. Average men are overweight. Median men are the actual 5's of the world, and absolutely can get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 08:46 PM
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Both are average in appearance but neither are median in appearance, which is the actually important metric with the obesity epidemic. Median men still have zero issue getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 06:46 PM
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No, Chad is an idealized version of the guy who stole your girl. He's always taller, always funnier, always more built, and never commits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 06:45 PM
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In the US, considering the sheer percentage of men that are overweight or obese, I can guarantee that barring social issues above average men have zero issue getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 06:42 PM
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It doesn't matter what men think about themselves because it's women they're trying to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 06:35 PM
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I would say so, yes. However child support is obviously a second form of support that is (supposed to be) directly funded to the children, while the alimony is for mitigating the lack of career advancement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 11:26 PM
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Again, these things should be documented and are not. I'm not going to dispute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 11:20 PM
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I think that would be a great way of determining whether or not a partner should get alimony or the same amount of alimony as someone who actually cleaned. I love that idea. I don't think the courts do this but that would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 11:01 PM
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I moreso mean when I go on reddit for the day and there's yet another post written by someone who will never have a normal interaction in their life. It's tiresome. It's frustrating. It shouldn't be banned but I can see why the other commentors say what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 10:59 PM
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But perceived average partner count is high, even though Millennials are having less sex than their counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 10:58 PM
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If you're getting a date a week you're doing better than most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 10:48 PM
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Even if he tells me, but I can't tell, I don't care. It's if I can tell where we have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:38 PM
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You disagreed in the beginning then changed your mind at the end, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page. Relax. You're fun to argue with :) Are you remembering that I mentioned housekeeping and cooking as essentially full time jobs for a SAHSpouse, even if no kids are involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:35 PM
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This is absolutely relevant. That most people don't do the smart thing should have no barring on whether or not they are entitled to another person's income after leaving a relationship with that person. How is this not relevant. They have the ability to save the money they receive and choose not to. How is that anyone's fault but their own. So you are saying because the spouse wasn't smart enough to save, or lacked the discipline to save, another person must pay for their ignorance? Dude, I sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:31 PM
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They have access to their spouses income and after just 10 years of saving just 5% of their spouses income, which they would probably receive more of in their time with their spouse per year, they could retire in 10 years Most people don't save for retirement until much later in life so that's not super relevant to the argument, but it's something more SAHParents should think about. Ideally, yes, that should be happening, so I'll give you that point. If you are fired, you receive severance pay. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:22 PM
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I used the most extreme example, but whichever parent takes the brunt of the child rearing, even if they are both working full time. Because daycares and schools do not allow sick children, one parent must take time off to handle that problem. Not to mention parental leave, which also pulls parents away from work. Keep in mind, some people want stay at home partners that handle all of the house maintenance without wanting kids. Those partners had to sacrifice their careers as well. Seems unfair …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:06 PM
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Well in most marriages with children involved, the woman sacrifices time should could've spent advancing her career and making money to raise children. The more of her time that was sacrificed, the more I believe alimony is fair. 10 years out of work or only working part time is impossible to make up. 15 or 20 years? Trying to play catch up at that age would be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:54 PM
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If you've been married for one year? No. Five years? No. Ten years? Iffy. Fifteen years? Closer to yes. Twenty years or more? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:49 PM
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I literally just answered you - I would need to see a strong argument that it was immoral. That it does not serve its purpose - to help SAHParents support themselves after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:34 PM
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Well I was waiting for you to actually argue it was immoral and how, because that would be the only successful way to change my mind and you did not oblige after multiple comments of me asking you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:26 PM
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There's a certain user who posts like every 12 hours with a new set of questions on sexuality. Between that user and the comment section, there's a lot of social ineptitude that admittedly gets tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:24 PM
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It's only moving the goal post if you didn't understand what I posted. Since most people did understand what I posted and answered appropriately by stating core red pill beliefs, if we are to constantly hurl insults, I supposed that would make you rather dense. Dense is a fair characterization, but considering that I'm considered social adept for this crowd you really gotta phrase things better. Also I haven't been hurling insults at you, I've been insulting your arguments. There's a difference.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:16 PM
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It's not my fault you asked about red pill theories and then didn't specify which ones don't count as red pill theories. That's moving the goal posts. And she has more of a chance to make money if she isn't allowing him to support her and take on the financial burden. Yet despite this new found opportunity he still has to put effect into maintaining her lifestyle when she has to put 0 effect into maintaining his lifestyle. This clearly misunderstands how marriage and divorce works. Most couples …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:03 PM
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This is a silly gotcha post you've made, because it in no way relates to the initial post. You went into it looking to confirm your own bias, so you made a post guaranteed to infuriate the subreddit. Good job, you're a terrible social scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:52 PM
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Probably a little bit, yeah. It's always jarring whenever I hear someone use the word rape, it's treated like more a swear word than cunt is where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:46 PM
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If I can't tell I don't care. If I can tell, then clearly you don't have the money or aesthetic taste to keep up with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:41 PM
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The strawman was your attempt to say that these beliefs, which are only supported by some redpillers as a theory, is a core belief of the red pill. It is not. How is proving this by pointing to those who disagree with the theory, disingenuous. I never said it was a core RP belief, just a belief enough RPers hold that I take issue with it. You assumed I meant it was a core RP belief, and proceeded to base your argument around that, which is not how one argues in good faith. So you don't include t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:40 PM
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You accused me of strawmanning and now you're backtracking with "Not all red pillers" because I could back up my points, which is disingenuous. Many women could not maintain their lifestyle without alimony because their partner made more money. The man can maintain the same lifestyle (inb4 he can't because no loving wife - if they're getting divorced clearly the marriage wasn't loving, and divorced men have an easier time finding sex than divorced women have finding commitment) as before because…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 07:28 PM
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I actually took the time to read through both the posts you linked and neither say anything about all women being children who lack impulse control in all situations Your arguments would hold up if I couldn't find these posts. I don't think any rp person wants to remove a woman's ability to divorce. I think the idea Is is to remove her ability to take her partner's money and actually force her to get a job like men do when they are the least financially secure partner. Despite being eligible for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 04:49 PM
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Hey just because the star has an n count doesn't mean she's not worth of love! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:31 PM
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I mostly meant research on our subreddit in particular, we have quite the collection of terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:30 PM
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Also u/ProfessorGanymede, note how your posts were removed from TRP and from TBP. Tons of tolerance there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:27 PM
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Aww we gotta bring back twerp, that's beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:26 PM
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You need that gold star Smoogs got
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:24 PM
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It's kinda like bloop though, you can tell it's not being used positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:23 PM
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I don't think you're wrong, necessarily, just that there are therapists who can serve as both someone to just talk with judgment free and someone who coaches you through problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 02:51 PM
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The thing you mention about a woman's maturity, in my experience, is a strawman of rp belief. Next time you see that beautiful woman, and you think you aren't good enough, just remind yourself, they are nothing more than grown children, little girls. That is how THEY WANT to be treated, no matter what they say. Be that man and..."treat them right". A strawman, you say? This quote is directly from the front page of the subreddit. This post is in the sidebar. I have to disagree that it is a strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 02:31 PM
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Well there's no denying that women tend to be more agreeable than men and higher in neuroticism, both of which tend to improve one's ability to read and recognize emotion. I'm more disagreeing with the "oldest teenager in the house" mentality than claiming women to be exactly like men, the latter is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 02:28 PM
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No, most RPers are "enjoy the decline" guys that want to take advantage of sexual liberation. Tradcon men are more likely to be pro-life than an RPer, although RP and tradcon are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 01:44 PM
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Yep, Red-Curious was his username initially, not sure if it still is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 01:42 PM
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You may have wanted to do some prior research. Derogatory term for TRP and MRP followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 01:41 PM
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I think the main problem people have is that it's generally believed you can't debate relationships and social issues if you can't comprehend relationships and social issues. We do have advice threads, but there are users who ask q4women in an attempt to use PPD as a way to overcome their social problems and get laid, not to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 01:32 PM
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The belief is that women stop maturing mentally at age 18. They are believed to be incapable of regulating their emotions, delaying gratification, or making rational decisions for themselves. These are all qualities of a three year old, and I know this to be absolutely false. Because of anecdotes spread about divorce law (specifically about divorce rape) men are told to avoid marriage at any cost because women are no longer bond to duty fuck you (as marital rape is illegal) and they are allowed …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 01:14 PM
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The mixed theory I put in there because a lot of men get caught up on not being the blonde, 6' 2" football player who screwed all the cheerleaders, and I think female sexuality (and sexuality in general) is more nuanced than that, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 12:53 PM
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Purple pill, leaning red. Red pill theories I agree with: AWALT, hypergamy, AF/BB, pretty much anything on how attraction works, women want men at the top of the dominance hierarchy in terms of both SMV and RMV, men don't care about the female dominance hierarchy except how it relates to SMV Mixed theory: there is not just one male dominance hierarchy, there are as many dominance hierarchies are there are skills, so if you're a Chad at cycling or spelunking you would do best to find a woman who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 12:22 PM
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The kind of therapy I like is where someone sits (or walks with me) and talks with me for awhile so there's a general understanding of the problem (and of course they ask clarifying questions and whatnot) and then they start really drilling into me and forcing me to critically examine where I've fucked up and how I can do better. I really do well with that balance of someone affirming "yes you do have a problem" while also challenging me to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 12:05 PM
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Like do you find the idea of a man with depression or anxiety issues unattractive? How about one with low self esteem and not much confidence? I don't mind depression or anxiety issues, but the men I've dated at least have a confident front. Would you find him less attractive if you ever saw him cry? Or looked upon you as someone to lean on when it gets tough for him? No, that's what I'm there for. I'm his confidante and partner in crime, I have to know his weaknesses and be able to shoulder his…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 11:57 AM
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Take this and come back when you've read it all and thought about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 11:50 AM
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Exactly. OP may or may not want to get involved with someone who is still working through that kind of emotion.
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/18 10:45 AM
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Seriously, if you can’t deal with the realities of adult relationships, just don’t have them. Alright, close the subreddit, we finally figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 11:59 PM
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Pretty often. Excuses are used initially, but I'll get more firm as needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 09:12 PM
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1) You're not, that sounds about right to me. 2&3) Men and women are inherently different, and their choice of language reflects that. Men are more often technical (like yourself) and women are more often symbolic (like the OP suggests). If the desire to communicate with the opposite sex is there, not only do women have to be more technical sometimes than they'd like to be, but men also have to be more symbolic and emotive than they'd like to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 08:12 PM
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1) Empathy isn't an accurate enough definition. It simply means "the ability to understand and share the feelings of another" which I can do with someone I don't want to be friends with. 2) These words work because they're symbolic representations of things most people understand. For many people (particularly women) it feels too clinical and harsh to say "there was no or not enough sexual and mental attraction to date him".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:39 PM
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That's the joke I was making, you can kinda square the logic vs emotion thing by saying "when testosterone isn't turned up to 11, men are more rational".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:29 PM
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Relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:19 PM
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It's both accurate (although mushy in semantics) and sexist. Discrimination and stereotyping of a group is sexist, but there's imo nothing wrong with accurately generalizing groups so long as you don't pigeonhole people, which you don't seem to do. Your friend is way too sensitive, get better friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:17 PM
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Testosterone, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:15 PM
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It's absolutely real, and imo it's the combination of someone being physically attractive and also mentally stimulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:14 PM
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"The spark" is the feeling one gets when you experience the thrill of a possible new sexual partner + friend. It's a little like being on a rollercoaster and eating a cookie at the same time - lots of highs and lows and your body is pretty much inebriated off this person. "Chemistry" is the feeling one gets when sexual and mental attraction (wanting to be someone's friend) coincide. It's a connected term to "the spark" because it's continual sparking. "Physical attraction" is sexual attraction, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 07:12 PM
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It's better to not drop all of the weight at once like that - take it easy and focus on making slow steady improvements that you know you can maintain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 05:24 PM
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I mean men like me just fine and I am a ball buster, so idk where you got that impression from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 05:20 PM
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The intention of the Reformation was to correct what Martin Luther asserted to be the errors of the Catholic Church by appeal to the uniqueness of the Bible's textual authority. Catholic doctrine is based in sacred tradition, as well as scripture. Sola scriptura meant rejecting the infallible authority given to the magisterium to interpret both scripture and tradition. Aka, rejecting the traditional Catholic interpretation of Christianity. This has not happened in Islam to the degree it needs to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 05:16 PM
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The point of the Reformation is that Christians realized the Bible and the church is not perfect, and that interpretations of the Old and New Testaments can evolve, which is what allowed for women (and various other groups) to be able to campaign for their rights. Islam takes the Qu'ran as the final word on how people should behave, and has no historical period where their people rebelled and said "no Islam should change" and then actually changed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 04:34 PM
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But not a full on Reformation. Even Catholicism has been rebranded.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 02:50 PM
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The majority of Christianity is practiced in a reformed way - hence the Protestant - Catholic split.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 02:25 PM
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The individual Muslim can say "no I'm not going to take part in this" (and a lot do, to their credit!) but that's not the same as the religion reforming. Again, the religion as not reformed. I have issues with Islam, not Muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 02:12 PM
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Eastuss said that women don't take responsibility for their actions and don't empathize with men. Highhog brought up domestic violence. I brought up that in some cases of DV, Eastuss is still right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 02:11 PM
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Well that explains why you don't know what you're talking about. Abrogation is a serious thing in their belief system and to outright ignore it means you actually don't know about the religion's beliefs. Learn what your stance actually is before you argue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 02:09 PM
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You keep trying to pigeonhole me into saying it's their fault, and it's not. But that doesn't mean these women did not contribute to the problem. I don't know what percentage of women contribute to the problem, nor do I know the percentage that have truly been duped by abusive men. But I'm not going to pretend women never contribute to the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 02:01 PM
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So you blatantly don't follow your own religion's beliefs? That's fine, more power to you, but when talking about Islam you cannot ignore the actual tenets of the belief system. The individual Muslim can say "no I'm not going to take part in this" (and a lot do, to their credit!) but that's not the same as the religion reforming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:58 PM
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But I am not those posters or commentors. I have a major problem with Islam but I really couldn't give two fucks about what you look like. You've still failed to comment on abrogation, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:46 PM
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I never said it was an excuse, nor do I think it should be excused. Just that it is a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:45 PM
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Oh fuck, I did. My bad, I'll go edit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:42 PM
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Islam isn't a race, it's a religion. Good try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:41 PM
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When Islam joins the other Abrahamic religions and has a reformation period where it stops being so archaic, and it stops using abrogation to validate Muhammed's warlord phase and push away his peace-loving phase, then we can talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:29 PM
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No, that'd be ridiculous. But there's a lot more of that happening than is portrayed, and the biggest factor in domestic violence cases is alcohol, which is the only drug that lowers inhibitions and actually increases aggression. I very much think it's wrong for men to hit women, but it's equally wrong for women to hit men, and no one talks about the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:27 PM
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All of Islam works with a concept called abrogation, where later verses in the Qu'ran trump earlier verses. Those later verses are the ones where Muhammed told his followers to be warlords, overriding the earlier verses about peace. So forgive me if I don't take the "Not all Muslims" argument seriously because it's the only Abrahamic religion that hasn't gone through a reformation period. Both Jewish and Christian dominated countries are entirely better than Muslim countries for LGB folks, trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:25 PM
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Okay, so let's say a woman hits her husband 10x a day hard enough to bruise. He gets drunk and tired of it and punches her back and she calls the cops. This is [a significant factor] in what causes domestic violence charges. The woman doesn't take responsibility for hurting him, and feels zero empathy for him in this case. That's the relevance. Edit: phrased something poorly. Also don't downvote just because I've got unpopular opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:21 PM
6

You sound like a bloop arguing against AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:18 PM
6

Women hit men far more often than men hit women, and it's not taken seriously when they do. Men just hit with far more force.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 01:09 PM
1

She posted other women's instas and said she was the same size as one of them. The woman looked good for having that much weight, but she's definitely in the overweight camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 10:27 AM
1

Google them, they're mega ugly-cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 12:48 AM
1

I believe they can only survive in captivity. Also random AF lmfao, this thread is a month old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 12:45 AM
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He sounds very immature for his age. Be cautious.
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/18 10:11 PM
1

I had a lot of trouble with that until I started to play with goals in mind and subgoals to reach said goals. I also play(ed) commander so I had 100 individual cards and their combinations to memorize, so YMMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:10 PM
4

How old are the two of you? Especially him?
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/18 07:03 PM
2

Yes, because I'd like to see some spine in a man. If he's too nice to speak up and tell me when I'm wrong, then how will I ever get better? I have been accused of being too generous when I tip service employees, but never of being too nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 06:59 PM
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1) I think it frames the face well, so I'd prefer to see it. 2) I'm not consciously aware of hair line preferences (I was friends with a guy for a year and only a few weeks ago noticed he had a widow's peak). I like hair that is clean and nice looking, I've dated guys with thick and thin hair. I usually prefer black/brown hair over blonde/redheads, but I'm not extremely picky. I love how salt and pepper hair looks, my boyfriend has had a natural grey streak in the front of his hair since he was …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 12:48 PM
2

Yeah, and? It's bad for everyone except the few who want casual sex because it's accepted that everyone wants and has casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 12:38 PM
1

She's actually pretty overweight but won't acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:45 AM
2

You need to get off Reddit because you're getting more derailed every time you post, not less. This shit is why you're single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:45 AM
1

It's not that hard to become a millionaire now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:43 AM
1

Wrong Chris Evans. Captain American Chris Evans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:46 AM
2

Well a perfect partner would be whatever you wanted them to be in that moment. That could be passive or aggressive. Most men here would prefer passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:31 AM
1

More like my boyfriend has an idea of what looks good and bad, but can't articulate why. My female friends can, and it's important that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:29 AM
1

How are you liking MTG?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:27 AM
1

Chris Evans makes me weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:27 AM
1

The perfect man would never be unhappy with his wife either, and that certainly doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 11:09 PM
3

My god, what is it with people and not reading? I don't believe these people exist, and I never said they did. I'm a purple pilled woman so trust me, I know what it's like to date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:03 PM
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I think the perfect woman doesn't exist, which I said in the comment if you cared to read it, so it doesn't actually matter what I think she would be if she did exist because she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 08:31 PM
3

I'm a purple pilled woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 08:25 PM
5

Woman A would never be unhappy with her husband's behavior if she was a unicorn. They would sex whenever he wanted it. She would be all the positive aspects of female behavior and none of the negatives, which means she would not be unemotional. She also is in her mid thirties and married for only 5 years, which only makes sense if they were both in long education paths like med school, but married by 30 is a good sign that she was off putting to men, not a 10/10 (requisite for unicorn status), o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:55 PM
3

Neither of these women are unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:46 PM
2

Yeah but there are definitely N guys and gals that follow a bro or girl code.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:41 PM
2

Girl code: no poaching, be honest when that outfit really doesn't look good on me, if you need a tampon/pad and I have a spare I'll give you one. That's it, not super complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 05:27 PM
2

What does that even mean lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 05:24 PM
1

I mean you're pretty much ignoring psychologist's consensus on human behavior as well as animal behaviorist's consensus on social behavior in the animal kingdom. There's no way I could sway you if they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:51 PM
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If you're deliberately misleading someone about something that is important to them, you're lying, even if it is by omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:47 PM
1

Oh, I just read your flair. I see you will not see reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:45 PM
1

... If he's not socially competent. So there's a social hierarchy of skilled at the top and unskilled at the bottom, and it is influenced by physical prowess but is still its own separate category. Humans (for the most part) no longer kill each other for mates. Therefore we have only that social hierarchy to work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:30 PM
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They are literally torn apart. However, this mostly happens if they're rough with the females and the infants, because the younger males will support the dominant male. It's when the dominant male is an asshole that the younger males will team up to take him down. So there's social dominance + physical dominance there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:21 PM
1

But chimps have social hierarchies that depend on both strength and social behavior. Tyrant chimp leaders are quickly deposed by multiple 3/4 sized chimps. Therefore it's unreasonable to say that people have similar hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 08:47 PM
1

Social hierarchies have existed for longer than we've been mammals - it can be found in lobsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 02:05 PM
1

I don't believe that's true. I believe more that women should be allowed to work side by side with men if they're competent enough to do so. That's the piece of second wave that I really respect and appreciate. The pre-marital sex thing was a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:49 PM
1

I would accept that I'm a second wave feminist, but I'm no third or fourth wave SJW.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:42 PM
1

That's Doom's argument - women everywhere are actually asexual and that we've all collaborated to manipulate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:16 PM
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I know, anecdata is so convincing /s In all seriousness, when thousands of women around the world insist on having a sex drive, is it truly plausible that there's a worldwide conspiracy that all women are a part of?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 06:43 AM
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Okay, fine, I'll bring out my anecdotal evidence: I have a crazy high sex drive. I'm a woman. I don't have a reason to lie because it causes me more misery than happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 06:31 AM
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Except women wouldn't talk about wanting to have sex with each other if every one of them was lying. Edit: Also don't downvote me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 05:49 AM
6

I was just making a joke because you learned that women have their own sex drives and he believes no woman has a sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 05:43 AM
4

Women aren't people, they're sex bots that can only function around Chad /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 04:34 AM
4

The truth doesn't stop being the truth just because you won't speak it. You're thinking of Bloody Mary. Except it's patently false - I'm sorry you've never experienced otherwise. I don't think I've ever blocked anyone the whole time I've been on Reddit. Then you're stuck with people making the same arguments over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 04:28 AM
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Then you can stop saying it and stop getting people annoyed, you can block me and others who disagree with you, and/or you can learn the truth that women have sex drives!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 04:22 AM
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u/angels_fan, you wanna comment on this? Edit: Seriously y'all quit downvoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 04:18 AM
1

to most that would be abhorrent Didn't say to all :P
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:26 PM
1

I'm aware that trait conscientiousness is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 03:27 PM
1

So we agree, cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 02:25 PM
1

Glad I could clarify for you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 02:15 PM
1

Damn straight it is. And yeah, psychology is a deeply mushy science. No disagreement there. But since psychology and biology are the sciences that study sexuality most, I put them together for the sake of this particular post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 01:59 PM
1

That doesn't support that the patriarchy is lowering birth rates, lol. I didn't say paid family leave isn't a reasonable endeavor, just that it doesn't mean the patriarchy did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 01:57 PM
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I didn't say it did. Formal logic is an incredible tool, and it absolutely is important. But I think it's being misused here, which is often the case imo when people discuss observational sciences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 01:44 PM
1

Naturalist fallacy applies only when you're not talking about evolutionary biology and psychology. Otherwise everything falls under the naturalist fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 01:09 PM
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So formal logic works really well when you're picking apart arguments or trying to be philosophical. But when you apply it to observational sciences (biology and psychology) you get monstrosities like what you quoted. By their own logic, cancer is natural, so we should just accept it and let people die instead of fighting to find cures. To most, that is obviously abhorrent. I would compare that to her claiming all sexuality is natural - it might be, but there are better sexualities for the long …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 12:48 PM
2

And even if she's a model but she's really demanding or some other kind of crazy she's gonna chase guys off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:53 AM
2

You clearly don't fit most standards because if that was true someone would've asked you out already.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 01:44 AM
1

But you alone cannot fix culture. You alone can fix yourself. Why not focus on setting your house in perfect order before blaming ze evil mens!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 01:30 AM
2

I live in a populated section of New England and I grew up in a small city. I don't have an instagram, I barely use facebook, and I have a small pinterest set up for when I go see a hair stylist because I am very into my hair looking nice but beyond that it's limited. When I do my make up I have a minimalist look (light eyeliner + mascara + lipstick), a natural look (all that plus foundation + concealer + blush + nude eye shadows), and a going out look (all that but with thicker / darker eyeline…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 01:23 AM
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21 y/o. Edit: Female coworkers range from 21 to 31, boss is in her early 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 01:06 AM
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It's not so much my place of employment in particular, but my entire field, to clarify. Maybe I'll see more of it when I move to a city in a few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:43 PM
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1) Women do not wear make-up solely to attract men. Of course they don't. When I'm putting on my make-up before work, for example, I'm less thinking 'how do I make men think I'm more attractive?' and more thinking 'how do I make it look like I've had 8 hours sleep and am holding it together like a true professional?'. The fact is that even if for example you conceded that lipstick was originally about making yourself look aroused or whatever, it has been made part of culture/fashion in such a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:41 PM
2

I guess, but I actually just asked my mom and she never bothered with make up even when she was younger because her skin was too sensitive, and she was born in '61. My brother's mom (born in '64) on the other hand was shocked when I said I don't wear make up and backhandedly told me I should start wearing it, so I have mixed reviews on the age thing. And yeah in my industry (dog grooming) if we wore heels we'd break our ankles and get infections from hair splinters, so even people who just handl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:34 PM
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1) Don't downvote me. 2) There is a difference between post hoc justification of torture and murder instead of building a platform on racism or equity. Peterson's goal is not to battle obviously violent people who have violent coups because everyone agrees they're wrong, but to define the lines where leftists and rightists have slipped too far down their slippery slopes. 3) He says the problem is way worse than policy can fix, considering that inequality is older than humans. That's not the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:27 PM
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I never wear make up except when I want to look nice for my boyfriend, which is pretty much true for all of my female co-workers too. That's why I can defend his position, and I think it's reasonable. But we're working class / retail types, so maybe it's different for middle class and up people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:11 PM
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If you are everything these men want you to be, you either have some god awful flaw that you aren't aware you have that they see, or you're actually ugly. Or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:06 PM
1

Pinochet did that to consolidate power after a coup, he didn't whip the nation into a fervor in order to get elected. Not a fair comparison to Hitler at all. I mean I've seen multiple videos where he interviews people who have left leaning beliefs about inequality that he's clearly in favor of, which no right winger worth their salt would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:01 PM
1

Oh, I never really got that impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:50 PM
1

says women who wear make-up shouldn’t complain about sexual harassment. No, he says he does find it a little hypocritical because what is the point of make up besides attracting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:49 PM
2

What do you mean, his analysis is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:47 PM
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He has spent most of his time studying the massive tragedies of the 20th century, some of which were caused by the extreme right and some by the extreme left. In his estimation, ethnic superiority is where you know when someone's right leaning beliefs are too far, but he's not sure what that line is on the left, which is why he goes after it significantly more. He's also immersed in a left leaning environment, so there's simply more fuel at hand for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:45 PM
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I'd say he's fairly purple pill, lol, which is the problem hard RPers have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 04:22 PM
1

If ever man you've been with or known has been like this, and you're the common denominator... Are you sure you're not the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 04:21 PM
1

Honestly just go through her post history with some popcorn, it's a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 04:18 PM
1

Polyamory works for a rare few, and infinitely more will try it and fail miserably than succeed. Imo it's not worth exploring because I know I'm the jealous type, and I generally date men who are similar to me and not overwhelmingly different (and therefore also jealous types).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 04:09 PM
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Not really. I have 7 siblings from both of my parents multiple marriages and I was the one kid they didn't get married over, and I got to enjoy the special kind of hell that is while growing up. So it's really important to be with someone who is also "one and done" like I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 03:42 PM
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Yes because heaven forbid women have to do any legwork. They should get to simply lie back and let their supplicants flock to worship their untouchable bodies. Sorry honey, not everyone gets beta orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 07:06 PM
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I'm a strong 6/10 without make up and I get hit on every day. There is no way you're not getting hit on if you're truly a 5-6/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 07:05 PM
1

They don't consciously prioritize it, but everyone does is subconsciously. If you can't get laid because you're too scared to ask girls out, you're not competent enough to keep them around or you're too ugly to date, yes you're an incel and rightfully so. This isn't harder to understand. Eye roll Chad is not God. Chad is an impossible ideal used as a motivator by TRP that has been hijacked by black pilled children. That's not mainstream at all for Gen Z or the following generation or two. Plus "…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 04:54 PM
1

Sex's ultimate purpose is for reproduction, the belief that it has other purposes is idiotic. It has benefits outside of reproduction, but that's not the same as purpose. You need to be able to convince someone to reproduce with you, so no, incels cannot reproduce by that logic. Oh God here comes the homoerotic Chad fetishising. And CRISPR isn't ready yet so it doesn't count for the current SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 04:49 PM
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And at that point you're gonna be uglier than people younger than you anyways. Listen, you can use plastic surgery to lie about your appearance. But your genetics cannot be changed, and you'll just be passing on shoddy genetics to some poor kid. If you're attractive enough to get laid on your own, who cares - but the broader fact is attractiveness indicates physical fitness for reproduction, and lying to get ahead poisons the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 04:38 PM
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I care about society because without it I wouldn't be using this smart phone or have any of the amenities I enjoy without a thought. And beauty doesn't last past 50 unless you moisturize like crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 04:18 PM
1

Function is more important than form. Beautiful useless things are not productive for society, and beauty never lasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 04:11 PM
1

I've spent hours watching Jordan Peterson lectures and reading about relationship psychology. Does that make me a psychology expert? Can I go into clinical practice now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 04:04 PM
1

Did you seriously just say that? That's your epic rebuttal? Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:48 PM
2

That is closer than I thought you would be, but you're still no plastic surgeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:06 PM
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Seriously? Your job is to study craniofacial patterns in the human species? Because that's what I meant by expert and scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:01 PM
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Men don't need to evaluate men unless they're gay. Be reasonable. I didn't make any assumptions about you, I meant the general you. However you still identify as "almost ex incel" so clearly I'm not wrong about your demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 02:50 PM
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That's what I'm getting at - no one besides incels and scientists know about the technical terms because no one needs to. Everyone gets what it looks like, so they don't need the terms. Therefore if you know what those are, you most likely are either an expert or you have issues. Edit: finished a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 02:03 PM
1

Why don't you weigh the pros/cons of a variety of long term behaviors, then do whatever the fuck looks best to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 01:15 PM
3

Anyone who doesn't know what good + masculine bone structure looks like has more problems than PPD can solve
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 01:05 PM
2

She never even proved her points, she just spouted a bunch of word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 02:08 AM
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First, that man is gay. Secondly, no. Happy marriages are happy because behind the scenes two people put their blood, sweat, and tears into it. That's not Disney-esque, that's real life. Thirdly, sex is not a big deal when you're getting plenty of it, but a very big deal when you're not getting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 01:58 AM
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I mean that you pointed out the major flaws of red pill ideology eloquently, and I was quite pleased with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 05:10 AM
3

Can we pin this comment for fucking nailing what the goddamn problem with TRP is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 04:44 AM
1

It's fine, we've turned to defining Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 04:42 AM
2

Continual manipulation of your partner through withholding sex is wrong. Whoever the higher sex drive partner is is controlled by their partner's sex drive. This is most often the male that is rewarded through sex, but sometimes it's the female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 08:31 PM
2

I think it would be important to have the alpha and beta traits list include negative aspects. Hyper aggressive men are problematic, just as hyper passive men are problematic. It's in the middle that men are attractive. I don't really have anything that's not particularly red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 08:12 PM
1

I saw that, but it's not quite the same as what I meant. It doesn't matter enough to me to pursue it if you think we're saying the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 07:42 PM
1

This isn't productive, I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 06:02 PM
1

LOL. Until you've made a girl pass out, you don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 05:45 PM
1

Incels are omegas. Betas can get laid because they'll make good dads (so they have to be cute, if not sexy). Alphas can get laid because they're sexy. Alpha bucks have both alpha and beta traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 05:42 PM
1

1 is a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 05:40 PM
1

We've normalized obesity here, and sizes are altered. I shouldn't be a size 0, I should be like a 5, but I am so women who are size 10 aren't size 15. Betas are over the minimum threshold. That's what makes them betas, not incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 05:36 PM
3

More than you'll ever be able to give a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 05:25 PM
1

You can't leave them out, because in my country you have now effectively cut the population down to 30%. Plus that number was adjusted for age. How you behave most certainly makes a difference. I'm not black pill at all, I'm firmly of the opinion that personality is super important past the minimum threshold of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 05:22 PM
1

For what its worth, there are a large number of men with stable careers who can't find a woman to be attracted to them vs the other way around. So they don't have enough of the beta traits to count as betas, or too many of the negative aspects of alphas (actually asshole-y-ness, not sexy arrogance, "doesn't care" about social games because they're not actually socially competent) so they turn off any appeal their beta traits have. Considering that 70.2% of people are overweight or obese...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:47 PM
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The Alpha vs Beta Traits is excellent. Could you include somewhere that Omegas either have few or no good traits from either list, or that they have too many of the negative aspects of both lists?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:41 PM
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No, I was saying that lower tier women have more "opportunities" than the male equivalent. I wasn't debating that, and I'm not going to. You'd be surprised how large of a population are omegas. Its to the point where they aren't just a small 1% minority. Omegas are men who cannot inspire attraction through physical means or through financial means. That's not a lot of men if you count obese and omegas separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:32 PM
1

Purple pill, leaning red. Second wave feminist. 2 year long LTR. I'm in a committed relationship, so on principle I'm not fucking anyone else. Yes, I do feel immediate attraction towards attractive men. My consistent desires are athletic (better be able to carry me and toss me into bed), bold eyebrows, intense eye colors, strong jaw lines, and arrogance / stubbornness. Beyond that I've dated short, tall, pale, dark, etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:29 PM
1

Social norms develop out of biological pressures (for the most part). And low tier humans are less desired than high tier humans??? Who would've thunk??? /s I'm not talking about omegas, obese people, or truecels, and there's no need to bring them up when discussing the average normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 03:37 PM
1

Why is it that men are the ones who propose then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 03:20 PM
3

I have sex with my boyfriend and he still respects me. I'm sorry you haven't had similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 12:16 PM
19

Ever heard about the idea that unchecked sexuality period is unproductive for society, because the chance at fulfilling one's sexuality is one of the best ways to motivate humans to improve society? That's why people have a problem with sluts - they essentially decrease the value of sex, much like printing money causes inflation and decreases the value of a currency. Also, a whore is just another name for a prostitute. So's harlot. Just because you find it offensive to your feelz doesn't make it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:22 AM
3

This is the most insane comment I've ever seen in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 04:11 AM
2

It's cool, I've done it too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 10:28 PM
1

Is there a problem with appreciating a good dance partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 10:25 PM
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Good dancers tend to be better in bed and it's hot as fuck to be able to dance with a guy (because 90% of guys can only do the white guy shuffle) between the physical attraction and the mental attraction of "he's so confident he has zero problems dancing".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 02:41 PM
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Okay, here's an idea for you. Women gatekeep sex, men gatekeep commitment. A woman at her most ruthless will try to get men to commit to her without giving them sex, and a man as his most ruthless will try to get women to have sex with him without giving them commitment. This concept is why most religions are in favor of sex after marriage. It gets the man what he wants and the woman what she wants at the same time. Now, a man is second best in a woman's estimation if she would rather fuck other…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 12:39 PM
1

You flirt you ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 12:22 PM
1

I don't think conversion is the way to go. You could try secular volunteering as well, see where that takes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 02:11 AM
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Go to a bar and order a Coke with lime on the side. I don't mean their mothers doing things for them, I mean like a convention or a faith based mission for helping people in poor neighborhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 01:51 AM
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Okay, do you go to bars or school events? Have you asked around your church about going on missions with other young adults from other congregations in your denomination?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 01:46 AM
1

Why are you yelling at me? If you're in school, shouldn't there be young men on campus?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 01:32 AM
1

My God, you're probably young and yet so jaded. Listen, just get over yourself and start asking out dudes you find attractive. If they say no, just move on to the next one. Keep doing this until you find a guy who fits your criteria. It'll be faster than waiting for a man to fall out of the sky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 01:26 AM
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Where do you go? Do you have social hobbies that are co-ed? Online dating isn't the end of the world if it gets you what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 01:16 AM
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Okay, do you ask men out or do you just wait for them to serve themselves on a platter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 01:13 AM
2

Thanks, and you're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 11:56 PM
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That sounds like a personal problem, not one to make wild posts on. Do you pursue male attention yourself? Do you go areas where single men are? Do you dress nicely? Do you wear make up? Are you pleasant to speak with? Are you sociable, someone a man can be proud to be with?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 11:32 PM
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You did not say "men only notice the top 5-10% of camgirls", you said "camgirls prove men only notice the top 5-10% of women". 1) I'm not in the 5-10% and I'm desired, so false. 2) Ugly people get laid, so false. 3) Actually understand what your view is when you write it, so you can make articulate and well reasoned comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 11:19 PM
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TIL I'm in the top 5-10% of women according to your view. Anywho, the most attractive people will always have the most attention. But that doesn't mean men don't notice women who aren't the hottest girls they've seen. Ugly men and ugly women have copulated plenty often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 11:10 PM
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My personal hobby is noticing when the mods can't be arsed to come up with a new off topic discussion thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:51 PM
1

Intolerable Cruelty is a hilarious movie about divorce rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:13 PM
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Here's the thing: I'm not having sex with a man I'm not attracted to. So the difference between Hot Guy 6/10 vs Hot Guy 9/10 is all about technique and personality chemistry. I would rather be with the 6 if he's making me scream than the 9 if all he can do is jackhammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 01:12 PM
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Oh, I thought you meant the person who was stopping to help was the thief, not the person stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:40 PM
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I could hear an argument for that, but men are more likely to attack strange men than they are strange women. Women are more in danger from men once they "know" them, because it's friends, boyfriends, husbands, and family that usually hurt women, not strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:15 PM
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That's fine. You said women should initiate, I said I do, so we exist. So again, open your mouth if you want female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 09:00 PM
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I think that's a lot less likely to be a man's mindset on a crowded highway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 08:56 PM
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LMFAO, that's hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 07:55 PM
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You're welcome, no one should be above clarifying their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 07:13 PM
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Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:55 PM
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No, otherwise I'm taking over [my sexual pleasure] and he can find someone else to [screw].
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:48 PM
1

If a man's lasting 30 seconds he has about 30 seconds to be ready for round 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:45 PM
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Not an "alpha" who can only last 30 seconds, that's for damn sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:43 PM
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I mean both were pleasantly above average, I had zero complaints. Yes I do, and I regret my previous actions bitterly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:37 PM
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sigh Because 18 year old me had no idea what she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:34 PM
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Neither am I. I've seen a girl go from a 6'1 guy to a 5'5 guy, and it wasn't about who was more "alpha" because both guys were high betas at best at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:32 PM
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And I'm telling you that's not true. I would rather have an orgasm from a 6-7 than 30 seconds of pounding from a 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:24 PM
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If I don't orgasm I'm pissed, that's true every time, no matter how "high value" he is. I may be patient with him if it's a rare occurrence or if I know we're gonna take care of me after, but I like orgasming way too much for some man's pleasure to come before mine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:16 PM
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Oh honey no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 06:05 PM
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You and I are in agreement, I just threw in a quick quip in rather than write a ton because I'm at work. Low effort responses do deserve criticism so thank you for nitpicking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:17 PM
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I mean if you can do the flips Ed Sheeran does in A Team that's plenty fast enough, and a pretty timbre will do the rest for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:28 PM
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Yep. No positive male figures in his life, so he has nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:27 PM
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Men are stronger and more aggressive than women. But when my brother comes to me at 13 fucking years old crying and pleading with me to teach him how not to rape women because our 30 year old sister told him that "men are dogs and can't help attacking women", there's a goddamn problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:11 PM
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Yeah but not everyone's a really good lyric baritone (like the guys that can hit 32nd notes in runs - it's really cool to hear), and at least there are plenty of songs for your voice type.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:04 PM
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By convincing them they are dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 12:55 PM
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My boyfriend and voice coach are both high lyric baritones :D absolutely fave voice range, now I wanna hear you sing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:51 AM
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I do approach and escalate. I literally asked the past three guys I've dated out, pushed for sex, and pushed for commitment. It's not that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:50 AM
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I know, that was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:49 AM
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He wasn't expecting sex or a date from me, so he was being a good person. But because I looked cute as hell and feminine, he was showing off to me how good he was at putting on spares. My boyfriend got a flat on the same stretch of highway and not one person stopped in the hour it took for Triple A to show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:53 AM
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Yeah, tenor vs baritone vs bass, dramatic vs spinto vs lyric
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:51 AM
1

Stay far far away from the white girl. Be patient. You might feel old at 24 as a guy, but my (Muslim) friend's sister is unmarried at 27!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 03:17 AM
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It's definitely not nagging that I use as shit testing. Example: Me: Do I look good in this dress? Him: Meh. /s I demand beta comforts that are unnecessary, he pulls my pigtails verbally. If I start teasing him more (saying "oh there's no way I could want sex right now" with a smirk on my face) he pushes back more with groping and flirting. I don't nag beyond "would you like me to remind you in x time?" and then reminding him if he says yes. He's a grown man and I'm a grown woman, he can do it h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:20 AM
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The man's learned by now that if I'm shit testing I'm just horny and need a good dicking, and if he doesn't have time for that then he ignores me or shushes me. I'm difficult to deal with for most but he's got me pretty figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:08 AM
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eeEE.... eeEE....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 02:06 AM
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I have one gay guy friend who's great and likes me because I don't treat him like most straight girls do, but I'm moving in like a week so D:
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:59 AM
1

What's your voice type?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 01:57 AM
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Men exaggerate how difficult it is to talk to women. You want her attention? Open your damn mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:25 PM
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Love that sooooong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:21 PM
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Bitter SJW at the time. I'm still a bitch, I'm just mellowing out with age. I suffered from panic attacks, flashbacks, and nightmares.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:02 PM
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Weird, because I dated different 3 guys who were willing to overlook and be compassionate towards childhood sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:56 PM
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Hell yeah I shit test. I don't do well with men who a) don't like to argue with me and b) are less stubborn than me. That means I'm always poking at my boyfriend's frame, and he's always holding and pushing back - it's how we flirt, and we've been doing it since we were 14 and 15 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:55 PM
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I mean, I bet if you opened your mouth and said "I'm really anxious about sex but I do like you" eventually a guy will stick around and help you through it. But I bet that would require some agency, would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:49 PM
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I had a flat tire yesterday. I was in short shorts because I'd just gone on a run. Within 5 minutes a man pulled his truck over to help me out. By the time my boyfriend got there (like 20 minutes after the initial flat) my spare was already on and he was just tightening everything up. His payment? A giant smile and a touch on the arm as I said "Thank you". All you gotta be is cute and showing some skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:24 PM
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Again, you keep picking 3s. Fat guy to the left, eats his feelings about his mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 08:43 PM
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Any of those men have gotten laid? Wow. I agree with LKF, Scarf Dude is my bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 08:42 PM
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Well I should hope no one reads my mind, there's a lot of porn in there. And generally you can get a gist of intention, and I thought my intentions and that intuition was obvious, but sometimes they're not. Which is why I specifically clarified when requested, and admitted that I wasn't trying to be difficult. It's not a mind reading assumption, it's that people have more similar intuitions and mindsets with some groups over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:41 PM
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To me (and to others) it seems relatively intuitive, so we didn't think it needed explanation. It's not that I was trying to be difficult :P
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:31 PM
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Okay, and the difference is enough to change the willingness to respond. I was able to articulate it, so where's the fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:20 PM
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But there's no perspective shift about the bullies themselves. And clearly those who posted feel a victim mentality towards childhood bullies is worth risking (which is from way long ago), unlike a resentful mentality towards your partner who is current and present in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:01 PM
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Insulting your partner is dangerous, because it feeds into a negative mindset that can spiral out of control and turn a positive relationship into one of resentment. Insulting your childhood bullies is not dangerous, because you already feel negative and resent them. Happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 04:45 PM
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Are you agreeing or disagreeing, I am too tired to have social competence
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 04:07 PM
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I currently live with my boyfriend, and there's something to be said for getting to see how a person is at their lowest before promising to spend the rest of your life with them. Multiple finals weeks, the 8 month long struggle for him to find a job before he graduated, the death of my aunt... If we weren't living together I actually think we would not have handled them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 03:36 PM
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If you don't understand the difference between shit talking your SO and childhood bullying now, you are never going to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 01:26 PM
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I wouldn't say I've been bullied, but because I've always been weird, I would try to make friends as a kid and it would go terribly, which has predictably affected me a lot. Trying to be friends with girls was horrific, so I had almost exclusively guy friends until middle school, because there were more weird guys like me than weird girls. I found out a lot of my female "friends" didn't actually care about me when I had a breakdown in highschool, so I have mostly given up on female friends. Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 12:17 PM
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Dog groomer, 30-50k depending on the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 12:04 PM
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I wouldn't say they explicitly set the rules because that would've required understanding what exactly they were playing out, but they certainly made the rules known by only reproducing with men who followed the rules best. Are you a Jordan Peterson fan? He argues pretty much the same line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:40 PM
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My take was too similar to comment elsewhere, but essentially I see that our female ancestors were significantly more choosy than chimp cousins, and as such used the male dominance hierarchies as a quick and easy way to determine ideal mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:58 PM
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u/guywithgirlwithabike it's so nice to see you. I'm hoping you stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:04 PM
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Uh, some women want to be controlled. Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 05:44 PM
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Hell no. I'm not wasting my life because a man can't handle commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 05:06 PM
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Okay, you can think that. That is not egalitarian, so you do not agree with my earlier assertion. Let's leave it at that.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/18 03:47 PM
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Without women having babies, men would not be born and therefore could not have built society. Without men supporting women with society, they could not enjoy safety and security when birthing babies. They need one another to keep society as we know it afloat.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/18 03:26 PM
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Are apples and oranges not equally fruit? Men and women are equally human, which is the point of egalitarianism. Egalitarian doesn't mean perfect balance of the sexes in all things, it means the sexes are equally valuable (in different ways).
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/18 03:13 PM
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You mean an egalitarian and meritocratic society, where people are given jobs and roles based on their skill? That's not a soft patriarchy at all.
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/18 02:31 PM
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I don't believe that we've been a patriarchal society for a while, particularly since the second wave of feminism in the 60s-70s. I am not down for either a matriarchal or patriarchal society, but rather for a society that understands both the individual's nuances of personality and talents as well as their demographic's general trends. An individual woman can be masculine in temperament without the majority of women being androgynous or masculine. These women shouldn't fight their natures and b…
/r/RedPillWomen23/05/18 02:03 PM
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I'm about to listen to him talk tonight :D
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 10:13 PM
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1/2) Loses points - I don't think he'll be satisfied with just me if he's been with 20+ women. 3/4) Gains points - easier to satisfy, better pair bonding 5/6) Loses points - I don't like liars 7/8) Neutral - he gained points earlier, he doesn't get more for telling the truth. 9/10) Loses points - again, he bothered with lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 09:07 PM
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Yeah well if men are so much smarter than women then they ought to be going to and graduating from college more. Oh wait... Women are outpacing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 06:15 PM
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If I'm knocking anyone unconscious it's because I'm genuinely scared for my safety and screaming isn't working, and then I'm running the hell away because I am too little to win a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 06:05 PM
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No, I think that trans people shouldn't push for people and society to use the right pronouns, I think they should accept that they have a mental illness and need treatment. Trans people are not the gender they think they are, they are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 02:19 PM
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The sum of a relationship is greater than its parts. To me, that "sum" is love. Everything I contribute to making my life better, his life better, and our future together better, that's what it is to love someone. When I self sabotage, or he says something thoughtless, that's not acting for our love. When we forgive each other for our flaws, that's acting in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 11:37 PM
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I learned clarinet when I was in school, so I thankfully have some ear training and the very basics of Music Theory, but I have to learn every last thing about moving the muscles just so without actually being able to see what I'm doing wrong because I can't look down and see what my vocal cords are doing. It's absolutely infuriating, but I've come a long long way since I started last fall. My voice range is like Adele's, low mezzo soprano chest range with beefy enough vocal chords to hit C6 in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:00 PM
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I use self deprecating humor constantly. Even if I know I'm just going a different way than he usually goes (so that's when I'm right), I still make the jokes. Your story is honestly all over the place. Why did you pick him? Why do you like him? Why did he pick you? If he's not attracted to you, how have you changed? Everything is his fault in your narrative and you can't win because he's so bad. I mean this: And also, “how I feel” really, really doesn’t matter, because I’m a woman, and my job i…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/18 08:23 PM
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You don't have to use the word emasculating, it's not advice to be taken literally. But I don’t think it’s good behavior for him to excitedly jump at the chance to condescend to me. And why on God’s green earth would I say “I’m bad at driving” in that situation, unless I hated myself? I was GOOD at driving in that situation. He was trying to make a joke, not belittle you. And I say it as a joke in a silly tone, and he responds in a silly tone. We joke and tease constantly at our own and each oth…
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/18 07:44 PM
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I love hiking (try to do it twice a week) and I walk or run every day. Generally just being active and outdoors is very important to me. I take voice lessons and sing / play bass with friends for jam sessions and sometimes at open mic nights. I'm pretty serious about voice for a hobby, but not so much with bass. Beyond that I keep up with psychology and politics, as well as the latest dog grooming styles and research.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 07:27 PM
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Oh yeah she's the insta model. Definitely keep her in the queue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 05:53 PM
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In that case I would do research on her culture (particularly her class's culture within that), and ask her parents what the most important parts are. You can incorporate those into your own image for your future, thus being both independent and inclusive of their history.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 05:42 PM
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Hey that's me! Also, he's got a fair point. Who's the hottest?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 05:40 PM
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Well right up until you're settled on a girl, keep looking at what's available, but for now I would invest in Girl 2 a little and more into Girl 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 03:35 PM
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Next Girl 1 for sure. Definitely start working on Girl 3's parents now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 02:31 PM
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Girl 1 should be nexted, she's not religious and that's important to you, and her independent streak could be bad long term. Girl 2 sounds insecure, which is unsurprising considering you met on a dating app (which as another post pointed out about 42% of users use dating apps for validation). Keep an eye on that. Girl 3 sounds the best because if she's truly submissive and wants you, she'll follow your lead, not her parents' lead. Seriously think about the money and children things - you're prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 01:57 PM
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What red flags do each have, if any? Do you find all of them attractive? Do they share your values regarding money? Do they share your values regarding child rearing? Those are the big things couples fight about, especially money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 01:37 PM
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It sounds like you both have very different expectations of each other, which is building resentment. Rather than saying "Why don't you respect me", ask him quite seriously "In what ways have I changed? Have I been emasculating you?" Ask with a quiet, respectful tone, because you want him to answer honestly but you also want to bring out his protective side. Do not jump down his throat when he answers. Hold your tongue and take it in. Consider what you could change that would not sacrifice your …
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/18 11:58 AM
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He's quite the monogamist, so I might lose him to you :P Can't be having that, now can we?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 02:59 AM
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Too far with the babe, only my BF calls me that. Excellent banter before then, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 01:49 AM
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I want citations of your responses in TRP for an actually funny guy who amuses women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 01:43 AM
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Idk if you're my type but you certainly make me laugh, so by all means, take the compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 01:37 AM
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LMFAO. You're so cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 12:54 AM
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Not that this isn't heartbreaking and tragic, but your story is not the story of the majority of Americans. I fault to see how this is a good response to mr smoogs' post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 12:53 AM
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This a male/female thing. Men have zero issue talking about personality flaws and about bedroom things because it doesn't actually affect how they feel about their relationships. Women won't touch personality issues because it does affect their feelz, but sex doesn't because responsive sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 12:46 AM
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I wish sex was more frequent. His sex drive has settled more than mine has, so it's been difficult wanting it 2-5 times a day and he wants to put it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 12:38 AM
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It's not you, lmfao, but it's unmistakeably male to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 08:51 PM
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She does not sound like one at all. I ignored that post on RPW for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 08:38 PM
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We can't say that there's a lack of fathers, because that would be implying men matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 07:06 PM
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Of the lack of SJWs or the warm weather?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 07:05 PM
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Yeah, I know I'm a baby. Everyone thinks I'm older, probably the cynical tone. At least you have positive male role models to work with - my church growing up was aaaaaaaall female led and you could see the guys get decreasingly interested with every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 07:02 PM
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As a 21 year old, we're definitely still kids :P So long as you're being genuine with them, they'll appreciate it. Are you working alongside a male counselor? I always listened more to advice that both sides agreed was sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 06:43 PM
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IQ tests that don't use language test better than ones that do, and reduces the effects of education. Having a high IQ isn't the single best predictor of success. There are many unmotivated, undetermined, socially awkward people with high IQ who will never be successful - not because of their IQ, but because they lacked the grit and personality. You mean having Big 5 trait Conscientiousness here, specifically industriousness. Which I said when combined with IQ is a huge predictor of success. "Gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:47 PM
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It's not the only factor, certainly, but it is our single biggest predictor. Trait Conscientiousness is the next biggest predictor of success. If you have both, you're pretty likely to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:58 PM
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First and foremost, you are undertaking a radical change by leaving the SJW fold, and that's amazing! Good for you! Secondly, I think of RPW as a reminder that men and women are different, and that we should not treat men like we would another woman. Furthermore, it's a reminder that femininity is something to be proud of, whatever way you display it. I think the sidebar helps the most here, and I would focus initially on content posted by female endorsed contributors. The male contributors do p…
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/18 01:41 PM
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This post is better suited for r/askTRP. That being said... Women in your actual league generally will not approach. Men have to prove to us that they're good enough, so approaching has us selecting too soon. If a woman is approaching you, it's because she knows you're out of her league and she's trying to get you anyways by making it easy for you. There are always exceptions to rules, but this is a pretty solid one.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/18 01:34 PM
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1) I'm not your son, if anything I'd be your daughter 2) I clearly did not think my tone or attitude was snarky, which is why I asked "since when is that snarky?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:19 PM
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I asked a question. Since when is that snarky?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:04 PM
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Final update: He got the job!! We're moving out of this SJW leftist freezing hellhole for warmer weather!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 12:56 PM
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You've got this! I find kids to be a lot more forgiving than adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 12:47 PM
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Oh I don't take issue with that part, of course it's shitty. I was debating his comment on IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 12:11 PM
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Financial, since we live in a capitalistic society and it's not reasonable to measure it by "happiness" because what makes people happy can vary wildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:59 AM
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Even though IQ is the single best predictor of success we have?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:53 AM
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You can enjoy a fantasy without wanting to fully engage in it in real life, and even if you have a desire to act on it in real life, you can restrain yourself from acting upon it if you're truly committed to your relationship. It's called being an adult. If you can't do this, then you shouldn't be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:11 AM
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Trimmed up makes clean up after easier, but natural is fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 10:56 PM
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The studies refer to families and friends accepting the person's personal definition of identity. I personallg don't believe that gender is separate from sex, barring fringe cases with abnormal chromosomes and hermaphroditic phenotypes. Which means accepting that they have a mental health issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:38 PM
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I'm at work and on mobile, so I cannot help you with those.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:24 PM
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I see. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:39 PM
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What are the income brackets for UMC vs UC?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:22 PM
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Considering the rise of trans reversal surgeries, and that there's been studies that show acceptance reduces the trans suicide but not that surgery reduces the trans suicide rate, I'd rather we accept that they need help and are different without maiming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 11:53 AM
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Oh, I'm basically explaining that I was encouraged to fornicate, and wasn't taught that I should wait until marriage to have sex. In fact, that was considered backwards and illogical in the house I grew up in. That's why I have trouble reconciling wanting to have sex (and firmly believing it was right at the time) and knowing now that it would've been better to wait, as you believe. Does that make more sense, or should I clarify more?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:13 AM
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I wasn't raised to believe in waiting - my mom handed me birth control at 14. It's now that I'm shifting conservative that I'm seeing my behaviors in a different lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 02:05 AM
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I've said elsewhere that I wish I'd waited, but at the same time I do know how important sex is to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 01:53 AM
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Yeah we want to fornicate. We also want to marry people who want to fornicate all the time. If sex isn't something that's high on my partner's priority list, it will not work out. That would've been true if I had waited or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:49 AM
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Basically he thinks anyone who speaks for their partner or describes their partner like "Mr Vermillion's family history" is creepy and sad, even though we're trying to answer the OP to the best of our ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:43 AM
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I haven't really ever had a guy lie to me to get laid. I'm not disbelieving when women share such stories, but I've never been strung along. It's usually men who tell me they've been strung along by a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:39 AM
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It is bizarre how the former is ignored and the latter is demonized.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:37 AM
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I'm in a male-led relationship. It's pretty nice. I'd recommend it to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:18 AM
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From what I can tell it's RP aware women discussing strategies to maximize their happiness, which is generally agreed upon to be in a committed relationship with a man they find attractive *and* who provides security. The most important factor is understanding that men are different from women, and have different wants and needs from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:09 AM
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It's called anecdata. We don't do it all day, except when we feel like annoying you. My boyfriend agrees that annoying people is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:40 PM
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Yeah but they also have to put up with me sooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:33 PM
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My boyfriend wore eyeliner and heels once and looked damn good, does that count?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:41 PM
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Everyone should take a voice lesson to learn how to speak FTFY. I actually take them right now for singing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:01 PM
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Somewhere in the range of 5' 6 to 5' 10, past that is too tall for me. I like dark hair, strong cheekbones, thick eyebrows, some flavor of athletic (if he can't carry me to bed then we ain't screwing), and while he doesn't need facial hair, he needs to be able to grow some semblance of it so he looks like a man after forgetting to shave for a bit, not a 13 year old boy. Edit: Oh and he should either have a deep bari-bass speaking voice, or be able to sing if he sounds like a high bari-tenor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 01:09 AM
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Update: Boyfriend made it to his interview, he thinks it went really well, we have our fingers crossed that it pans out, and I have him safe and sound after multiple delays coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:46 AM
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Women are also better at poorly raising every man who ever started a damn war.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 12:41 AM
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You're not hearing me. Women are not better than men. They are not worse, but women are not better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 09:29 PM
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You're right, women just use children as pawns and deliberately get pregnant to trap men into marriages they don't want. Women use emotional gaslighting to control their circumstances instead of physical control. Women steal each other's resources all the time - have you ever seen the movie Mean Girls? Written and produced by women on what it's like being a teenage girl in highschool. Humans are corruptible. Humans are flawed. Women are not exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:59 PM
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So women are guaranteed to be incorruptible? They aren't human enough to go mad with power, they're too angelic for that? Even though women neglect and abuse their children more often than men do? Even though lesbians relationships have more domestic violence than straight or gay relationships? They're just innocent angels in the face of all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:51 PM
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Do you not hear yourself? I feel like I'm in that Patrick meme. If women did all the same things you think men to do women, but in reverse, it's still oppression. That's how oppression works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:15 PM
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Does the patriarchy oppress women, yes or no? If yes, then a matriarchy would oppress men. Women are not inherently superior to men, just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 06:37 PM
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Female would be the oppressive class then, since you want to subjugate men - so all I'd need to do is offer men freedom if they support my cause and they'd revolt. Considering I've never had issues with men wanting my attention and approval, I think so long as I'm trying to rally a war effort before I'm 30 I could launch some ships. Maybe not 1000, I'm not the only woman who would rebel against your dystopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 06:20 PM
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I mean it's been a couple of months at least, and I comment here at least once a day. I gotta be hitting "frequently annoying" status soon. Although I haven't seen Jams in a while...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 06:06 PM
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Part of me prays this is a troll, but God's been letting me down lately when it comes to gender crazies. That being said, I think she might be more shocked that one of her own is gasp arguing against a matriarchy. She thought I was a beta bitch lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:58 PM
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You know I'm a woman, right? I'd be part of the ruling class if you had your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:54 PM
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No, they entered careers that are violent willingly. No one conscripted them. So women who kill their female children do so because men are evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:48 PM
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Hell I'd conquer your matriarchy in five days. I'd just promise men they wouldn't be treated like cattle anymore and they would revolt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:41 PM
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... You know that there are women in the military right? And in the police force? That have shot and killed people? Hell, there are women in jail for murder. Therefore they clearly have no problem with death, or not enough of one to stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:39 PM
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That's false. Queen Bees are frequently cunts, and there's a positive correlation between skill and lying and popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:25 PM
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You said there would be no war. I'm challenging that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:17 PM
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I don't think either party benefits when we clearly hold one over the other. Mutually beneficial negotiations are optimal, but no one wants to concede anything. In any battle of the sexes, everyone loses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 04:20 PM
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He has to be visually appealing first and foremost. If you're good enough there, then you have to have the attitude of someone she has sex with, not some whose shoulder she cries on. You can change that, but it takes a lot of work and you have to be certain that your looks aren't what's holding you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:56 PM
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This post was clearly not made in good faith anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:49 PM
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Weird because lesbian relationships have the highest rates of domestic violence, there are women who murder their children, and just the other day a woman shot up YouTube. It's almost like all humans beings have the capacity for violence and to deny that is to let it win, because you can't fight if you pretend it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:43 PM
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Yeah I'd been sexually assaulted as a kid by an adult, I had obviously different feelings on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 03:13 PM
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