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I see nothing in this ad that would suggest that Joe Biden is somehow a better choice for men. I guess the only thing is that they didn't shit all over men in general like Gillette did.
/r/MensRights27/10/20 08:51 AM
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Looking at a woman is not equivalent to treating her as an object so this is a ridiculous strawman to begin with. Men are fully capable of seeing a woman's physical attractiveness and the person behind the body as well. This is, in fact, the norm which only a small minority of sociopaths doesn't understand. Feminists would like the world to believe that pathology is the norm as it gives them leverage to browbeat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 06:41 AM
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Its gonna depend a lot on how long this pandemic lasts. It's going to depend on how long it takes for people to come to their senses and realize that the most important thing is to restart normal economy. COVID is not nearly deadly enough to shut everything down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 08:13 AM
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Most of the divorced women I know which is....most of the women I know... .couldn’t even get their ex to show up to court, can’t get child support out of them Right, and the women initiated almost all of those divorces. Now they are complaining that their exes won't pay them for having ripped their lives apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 08:11 AM
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This will push us toward socially conservative gender norms and potentially result in a backslide in gender equality. This "push for equality" is more about sameness than anything else, which is a horrible fallacy. It's idiotic to complain that my dog is not more like a cat or vice versa. Men are not women and women are not men. Never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 08:05 AM
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I'm not sure this is a Men's rights issue. It's not an exclusively men's rights issue, but it definitely impacts men too. Plus, just because feminists couldn't give a rat's ass about men in general, doesn't mean that the reverse has to be true. Somebody has got to be the adult in society and provide much needed leadership.
/r/MensRights25/10/20 04:07 PM
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And it is not entirely true, or one should not base themselves entirely upon this information. Modern society is also different from prehistoric times. Culture changed a lot. It is absolutely true that many instincts remain the same as x thousand years ago irrespective of culture, knowledge and technology. Evolution is not everything. You thinking it is, is a fallacy and unscientific. Nature VS Nurture, remember. The only one saying that evolution is everything is you, in your head. You're just …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 07:07 PM
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Equating "This is how humans were in the prehistoric times" to "This is how humans still are today" is wrong, for reasons we will see later. Equating "This is how humans (naturally) are" with "This is how humans SHOULD be" is an appeal to nature fallacy. Weird strawman. The argument is that male/female strategies for success in life and in mating were honed over a long period of time, tens of thousands of years, and did not disappear over a few hundred years of rapid and transformative technolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 03:34 PM
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Women do that just to be nice. No, they do it to avoid confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 12:54 PM
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According to the Finnish law men have up to two years to apply for voiding paternity of a child born in wedlock, which turns out to be biologically unrelated. The deadline could be extended only for significant reasons. So how the hell was this NOT a significant reason?
/r/MensRights20/10/20 04:33 AM
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You need to get on that membership fast. We are having a blast here celebrating the Glass Ceiling Month. The main event is burning women's professional CVs and applications to STEM schools. We also have an after-party Cat-Call crawl planned. Self-explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:38 PM
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This stat simply tells us that women are delusional and think that they are in LTRs with men they are only casually dating. Women certainly over-estimate investment of men who casually bang them for fun, but a loose relationship is still a relationship. More than half of men in the 18-29 age group have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:17 PM
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Also, this is based on self-reported relationship status. Men are more likely to say that they are in a relationship, even if they are not, to save face, so the real percentage of male "singles" is probably even higher. Women generally don't need to lie about this particular thing, unlike about the sexual partner count, which is notoriously underreported.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:12 PM
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It would be interesting to see just where is the line drawn on reddit in regards to man-hating subs. FDS must have broken every site rule by now a thousand times over in regards to using hateful and discriminatory language against men. This would actually be ok, except that subs with even a whiff of misogyny get immediately banned. It's a nice double standard. So where is the line? Calling for men getting raped? Killed? Both?
/r/MGTOW15/10/20 06:22 PM
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Women are never taught responsibility and very seldom held accountable for their actions. On one hand society is adamant that women should be equal to men in everything, on the other it treats them like slightly retarded children who need to be protected, coddled, and excused for outbursts.
/r/MensRights14/10/20 04:02 PM
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Second example: Would you rather date Megan Fox, or a woman that looks like Megan Fox but is not Megan Fox? Absolutely the one who looks like Megan Fox, but is not in fact a celebrity. Of what use would that be to me that she is famous?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 06:44 PM
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It is true. There was never a time, at least within the past century, when a woman of proportional weight wouldn't be considered attractive by men. What has changed over time were fashions promoted by people who wanted to make money off of them. It's not men who want a woman with a Kim Kardashian ass. It's the media trying to sell it to them. Men happily partner with normally proportioned women of healthy weight and that remains a constant. Yet women torture themselves and sometimes disfigure th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 07:08 PM
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So men don’t shame and degrade women of different body types forcing them into having eating disorders? The anorexic 'supermodel' body standard was created by gay male fashion designers who wanted their models to look like teenage boys. Unfortunately women BELIEVED that that's what men wanted. It's guaranteed that all men alive today would find healthy weight models of the 50's super attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 06:39 PM
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What guys are observing today is that looks are very very important to women as well. Looks are more important to women now because all of their economic and safety needs are very easily met. In places where people face hardships, women seek men who are, above everything else, dependable and capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 06:35 PM
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This makes not mathematical sense. Not if you assume that people pair 1 to 1, but we are now moving into a harem based society where a small number of influential men monopolize a large number of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:19 AM
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No woman could ever love the average man. They have too many options. Women don't love (not even gigachads), they need men for perks and resources. They always select the highest status male in the vicinity. The trouble is that we evolved to live in small communities and women did not have that many options. Now those options have gone up a thousand fold, so yes, average men have no chance because they have nothing to offer. Things like good personality, decency, sense of humor, or honesty, have…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 09:16 AM
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Men don't look at economic status cues when rating attractiveness, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 04:51 PM
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The deciding factor is what is better for society and the most successful ones have been those who effectively promoted, and borderline but not quite, enforced widespread monogamy/marriage/family, and put stigma on divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:45 PM
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Devlin's "Sexual Utopia in Power" is a great read. Find it here: https://www.toqonline.com/archives/v6n2/DevlinTOQV6N2.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:34 PM
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One problem I have with many male poster viewpoints I come across is that they are essentially asking modern women to change, on their own, who they are attracted to and how much attraction they feel. In my opinion, most people have only limited agency in this regard. There is certainly an evolved biological aspect to what females are attracted to, as well as an individual idiosyncratic dimension. But culture also plays a large role, if sometimes only as the lens through which these biological i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:32 PM
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He learned in school and from books to build a huge foundation. Only then started expanding frontiers of knowledge.
/r/MensRights08/10/20 02:23 PM
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Better yet, don't use anything at all. Context and content of the post should convey the sarcasm. Some will not understand, but oh well...
/r/MensRights08/10/20 02:20 PM
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OMG, biochemistry must be such a sexist field!
/r/MensRights08/10/20 02:17 PM
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They quota hire, apparently. There is no way in hell that with the percentages of sexes in STEM, the cream of the crop of engineers are female. Maybe 1 or 2, here and there. Have you heard about NASA doing anything worthy of note in the last couple of years? That's probably the reason why. Quota hires can't hack it and even those few genuine shiny stars are demotivated by the environment.
/r/MensRights08/10/20 02:15 PM
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Feminist studies department proved the existence of systemic oppression by the ouijia board technique and intuition.
/r/MensRights07/10/20 08:23 PM
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Yes, but that girl had to suffer the male gaze and then spend years in therapy so she's totally underprivileged and deprived of time to study.
/r/MensRights07/10/20 08:17 PM
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I wish I could find this video, but it's really old so I am going to spoil it with a description: There is a couple in bed having an argument. The guy is being quite patient and understanding while the wife keeps making more and more preposterous claims of where he probably cheated on her and with whom. The guy finally gets a bit testy, but they more or less reconcile. They are still in bed and quiet now when out of nowhere the wife yells "I cheated on you!!"
/r/MGTOW06/10/20 07:54 PM
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This post captures EVERYTHING about female fidelity. If there are better options, take them. Never mind that you were with a person you have previously committed to spending you life with. Men, to women, are not unique individuals, only commodities to be used or discarded with no regard for emotional feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:33 PM
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Ba-dum Tisssssss
/r/MGTOW26/09/20 06:15 AM
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It is now an illegal practice to perform "training" that insinuates that you are better or worse off on account of their race or sex alone. Some of the clauses that may apply: (3) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously; (4) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex; (7) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex…
/r/MensRights24/09/20 07:15 PM
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Imagine the kind of pathetic simp he must be to marry that loathsome creature after seeing what she was doing to her ex. What makes him think it won't happen to him? Some men are too stupid to function.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 11:19 AM
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All of this can come from the woman taking some bad/bitter advice and she will completely destroy an entire family to make herself feel “better”. I know of exactly this type of case though the outcome was not as bad for the man. An acquaintance of mine has been married to this woman for about a decade. They had a solid marriage until "well meaning" female friends of this woman talked nonsense in her ear that she is still young and hot and she should have "fun" in her life. They hooked her up wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 06:11 AM
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His YouTube show was good and he has a knack for leading a conversation without insisting upon his own views. Does a good job of probing the viewpoint of the guest. I never really knew or cared about his own views, it used to be quite irrelevant to the meat of his show. In other words, I didn't watch it for what Joe was going to say, but for what his guests would say. It might be quite different now that he signed a major contract with Spotify. They probably have him by the balls and he will sin…
/r/MGTOW22/09/20 10:42 AM
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I am not saying that a man cannot understand a woman's thought process or vice versa. It's that our instincts our different so what seems right to our sex may be different when viewed from the other side. That women don't care AS MUCH as men about cheating does not mean that they don't care at all. They are more ok with it as long as their partner is sufficiently influential and he keeps contributing resources because women are 100% certain that their offspring is biologically related to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 01:24 PM
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Planet where polygamy among our species used to be normal and is still practiced in large parts of the world, many Muslim countries for example. Feminists would like you to believe that widespread occurrence of polygamy was the work of evil patriarchy, but the reality is that women prefer to share powerful men than have average men as exclusive partners. It was more modern take on structuring society that began to enforce monogamy, often under religious banners, as it was advantageous for societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 01:21 PM
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If I was a woman I would feel more doubt about a man cheating because of his nature to impregnate as many women as possible. But you are not a woman and your thought process is different. A woman doesn't care that much about cheating because she is 100% certain that her children are biologically her's, so even if her partner is philandering, it's of small importance as long as he is still committing resources to her and her children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:18 PM
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Lesson #9: Authentic attraction takes time to develop. Men develop attraction quite quickly and once formed, it seldom goes away without some major happenings. It's different for women because it takes a lot more time to assess whether a man brings enough tangible value to a woman. Looks are not enough as plenty of good looking men are still losers. Behavior is not enough in the short term because it can be faked. So nature wired women to have much slower attraction ignition mechanisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 12:14 PM
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In order for the average man (who can't rely on looks) to get laid regularly, he has to spend 1000s of hours learning how to pick up women and to develop abnormally high confidence and social skills while risking destroying his social status in today's online outrage media age. That's why men shouldn't bother with this nonsense. Focus on becoming influential instead. Focus on a career, running a business or running for office. This will give you purpose in life and will also lead attaining statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 07:34 AM
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They would all ask out the top male in the area. 99,99999% of men would be left out and would gain nothing from it. Besides, as a man, you are supposed to be in control of your own destiny. If you can't gather the cajones to ask a woman out, you are not very likely to succeed in anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 07:51 AM
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Men need to realize that the provider role is a dangerous role to find yourself nowadays. This is mostly true of providers who are doormats. As long as you make it clear that your resources are contingent on the woman doing your bidding, she will generally be a doting wife. If she is not, then you promptly eject her from your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 01:26 PM
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You're only right if you add the qualifier "attractive woman" to every one of the examples you listed. And, unsurprisingly, attractive men with the same examples are catered to pretty readily as well. Most of what you're talking about is just attractiveness privilege, not female privilege. Women are criticized all of the time for tons of stuff, especially by other women. The difference is that ~60-70% of women under 40 fall into the category where they are 'attractive enough'. Perhaps 20% of men…
/r/MensRights19/09/20 10:15 AM
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It's the sensible strategy to weed out the ones who ONLY want sex. Women are not clairvoyant to tell apart men who will commit vs those who won't on sight or based on behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:43 AM
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A good mother doesn't disparage a child's father for no reason. Women will never learn responsibility without being held accountable to the same standard as men.
/r/MGTOW19/09/20 04:12 AM
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This was posted on the Feminine Derangement Syndrome support group. There is no cure for mental illness so we have to be understanding.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 10:03 PM
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I now know it's kinda creepy for a mid-thirties guy to want to hang out with much younger girls. You simply believe uncritically something someone told you because that's the feminist philosophy du jour. You don't really know anything though. It will be a while before you learn to think for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 05:00 PM
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What is the use of that "fine arts degree" to society? What kind of person, with some money to invest in the productivity of others, will look at that degree and say: 'now this is someone who will help me turn a profit!'? How many niche fine arts degree majors does society need or want per 1000 people? 0.3? All questions that should have been asked before spending $30K on that degree and ending up dependent on the government for life.
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 08:01 AM
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They have every disease known to man so they know what they are talking about.
/r/MGTOW16/09/20 07:09 PM
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Women do enjoy sex less than men, on average, which doesn't mean that they don't enjoy it at all. Women consenting to sex is highly dependent on them getting what they want in a relationship. It's a common refrain to hear how a woman "loses interest in sex" when she does not, even if it's not a man's fault (loss of a job, for example). Sometimes consciously, and often unconsciously, women use sex as a bargaining chip to achieve their means. Something that men seldom do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 02:25 PM
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What do you think these stats imply? When you look at extremes in any kind of characteristic, you will always see more men. More geniuses, more idiots, more dominants, more submissives, etc. Biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 07:51 PM
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Next up, BREAKING: Pope confirmed as Catholic in bombshell revelation Pope strongly denies the allegations calling them "slanderous".
/r/MensRights15/09/20 02:37 PM
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buahahaha... nailed it!!
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 01:49 PM
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My advice, as a formerly turbo sperg INTJ You do you, we'll do us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:11 PM
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I would say it should be mandatory if the 'father' requests it prior to being placed on the birth certificate or at any time after if doubt arises as to father's identity.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 06:57 AM
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Jay phoned the police himself for more information and was told a complaint had been made against him and he agreed to go to the station for voluntary questioning. The duty solicitor advised Jay to refrain from answering the police officer's question because, in his mind, the girl's original statement was full of inconsistencies and 'there was nothing there'. 'When the police officer came in, she was all guns blazing,' remembers Camellia, who was allowed to accompany her brother because he was a…
/r/MGTOW11/09/20 01:50 PM
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He keeps tripping and falling face first into a black paint bucket.
/r/MGTOW11/09/20 07:44 AM
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The judging has already been done, and OP had been found innocent of the charges. This doesn't mean that the accusation was false as the OP claims. It just means it couldn't be proven, which is very different. Let's not confuse these things.
/r/MensRights10/09/20 08:07 PM
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One thing that feminists expect from men is clairvoyance. A man is supposed to always know if a woman wants to be spoken to, flirted with or asked out. He is also supposed to be aware of all her inner feelings without her communicating them in any way. He is also supposed to know whether he is her type and whether she finds his personality traits attractive. Simples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:50 PM
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I don't need a study to know that, but confirmation is always good. Closing the pay gap was the surest way to make women unhappy as women are only attracted to men they can view as superior to them in status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:47 PM
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Feminist ideal of man: Man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:38 PM
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"He invited me for coffee and he wasn't 6ft tall! The police won't believe me it was rape! Sob!!!" - empowered 21st century woman
/r/MensRights10/09/20 03:12 PM
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Yes, or they are homeless, but hey - what a wonderful privilege!
/r/MensRights10/09/20 03:11 PM
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It's lovely being able to look at just one side of things. There is a minuscule advantage to being a man, though you better be large and imposing, over a woman when it comes to walking through dark alleys. And you spend how much of your life doing that? 0.01%? Less? On the other hand, women hardly ever need to worry about being homeless or without money. A man can always be found who will provide for them. Which is like 99% of life.
/r/MensRights10/09/20 03:10 PM
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Bye.
/r/MensRights10/09/20 03:05 PM
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Women don't. That's why men are eternally confused. Women only know about love because men talk about it endlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:57 AM
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This is the spitting image of what I have been saying in regards to how women experience love or rather how they lack the capability to feel it. Men, to women, are accessories useful only as far as they bring in the perks, and as such, they are fully replaceable and disposable when not suitably useful. At least this is a rare, honest take from a woman, so it must be appreciated as it helps men to understand how to navigate the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:55 AM
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Well at least she showed initiative, hehe.
/r/MGTOW09/09/20 06:35 AM
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They still have to hire men to do the actual work. A few very talented, super productive individuals make up for a lot of dead weight.
/r/MGTOW09/09/20 06:32 AM
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Boys and men will be dead so no reason to worry.
/r/MensRights08/09/20 04:26 PM
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1.)Men do truly value looks so much more than personality that they will trade you up if given the chance. My sole value to men is how fuckable I am, I will never be a great beauty hence why I will never get the treatment I deserve from a partner. Men do value looks, but the threshold of acceptable looks is not high at all. Generally, if a woman is not grossly overweight, she will do fine with a large subset of men. 2.) Most men will cheat if given the chance and many more would if they wouldn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:26 PM
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I should take this moment to say that, up to this point, Sue had been diagnosed with manic depressive disorder, borderline personality disorder, and dependent personality disorder, in that order. That's a whole lot of invented disorders. Psychologists are still having a field day fleecing fools and parting them with their money.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 10:26 AM
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Why delete it? Seemed like a legit question.
/r/MGTOW05/09/20 05:39 PM
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Find a good guy rather than an exciting one. Have his babies and be loyal to him. Expect the same in return.
/r/MGTOW05/09/20 05:23 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9buo9Mtos
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 03:22 PM
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Feminists are confused children. All it would take would be to tell them that WAP video was made with male viewers' pleasure in mind and they would scream like banshees to ban it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 09:29 AM
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Ok, you can come at me with your hypergamy whatever. End of the day if a good woman loves a good man then there likely will be no cheating. Women don't love men as people, they love the perks men provide, and perks are interchangeable. Should a superior set of perks be feasible to obtain, it's trade-up time. This is not about lambasting women for how nature made them, it's just important for men to understand the logic behind women's behavior. Also, a young virgin should not be the ideal partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 10:38 AM
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Person on crack
/r/MGTOW03/09/20 05:32 AM
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Absolutely. Hardly any woman wants a stay at home husband and an ambitious, successful woman even less so. Women love the idea of a stay at home husband, but hate the reality of having one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 10:04 AM
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women are promoted/double promoted way sooner than their male counterparts (not complaining). Not sure what this means. Why wouldn't you complain about unfair treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 10:02 AM
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It's both different and of different degree. Men like youthful looks in general, but they fall in love with the look of one specific person that cannot be easily transferred over.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 05:19 AM
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I am not saying that the way women experience love is in some way inferior, only that it's based on different premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:44 AM
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Love is very much a reality as an intense feeling for a specific person. As a woman you just don't experience it to the degree that men do and it seems unreal to you. And yes, when beauty fades, romantic love dies down and gets replaced by friendship or ends in separation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:38 AM
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The difference is that men's love is actually tied to a person, so it's not easily transferable to another woman, whereas women can rather simply replace the source of the perks with an identical or higher yield one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:29 AM
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You are self aware enough to realize that women don't love men, only perks that they provide. This is a huge source of misunderstanding, usually, because women don't understand how you can love a man as a person and men assume that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:05 AM
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It's not taking a selfie of your butt in a thong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:10 PM
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If all men spent as much money on thots as I do, then thots would either starve or get real jobs. Ok, they would starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 01:02 PM
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Men are biologically more aggressive and more inclined to take risks. As a result, women evolved to be more passive and choosy. The downside for men is that it puts them in the position of applicants who are of automatically lower value, even aside from the fact that men are biologically more disposable. The upside for men is that aggression and risk taking gives them a greater chance of attaining a leadership position within a group so there will always be more men at the top of the heap.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 11:46 AM
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Ok, so? It would be very strange if everyone had the same opinion on everything. It would be an echo chamber.
/r/MensRights30/08/20 05:46 AM
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You see, freedom of speech is hard. It means tolerating viewpoints that are controversial, offensive, annoying, and otherwise repulsive to you. Tolerating their existence, without attempts to forcefully silence opinions different from your own, is what freedom of speech, and also liberalism, are about.
/r/MensRights30/08/20 05:43 AM
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Did anyone think that it's otherwise? I haven't really seen a space where men congregate that wouldn't be thrilled to have women participate. The post really just sounds like am attempt at ingratiation even if it comes from a genuine intent to be inclusive.
/r/MensRights29/08/20 08:39 PM
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What is the issue here? Any sane person knows that men prefer young, thin women, regardless of how much "body positivity" is pushed by old and fat women.
/r/MensRights29/08/20 06:04 AM
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From what I understand, Thorne didn't even promise nude photos.
/r/MGTOW29/08/20 12:33 AM
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Well, yes, status matters to women and it's assessed relatively to oneself. So a woman of high status will not consider hooking up with a man of lower status. Given celebrity egos, you can see how that means female celebrities will only agree to go with highest status men. It's not limited to celebrities either, but those are the ones we tend to know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:51 PM
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Do you really need to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:48 PM
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Women relied on men in the past for protection and provision. Now that those evolutionary pressures are gone, are we now seeing women’s real, default attitude towards men? We are seeing that evolution never conditioned women to love men. It was more important to gravitate towards resources that men possess rather than men as persons. In a sense, we can't blame women for how nature shaped them through many generations of survival struggles. It's just a blow to many men to discover the grimness of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:46 PM
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Yes it could be said in reverse, but I don't think men care about how women behave when with femalr friends, they only care how women act with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:59 AM
1

I would like to see another data point. The growth in the transfer of money from taxpayers to single mothers over time.
/r/MGTOW19/08/20 07:41 AM
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Surprisingly, it seems that about 70+% of men are in LTRs/married (an assumption of the men having sex more than once a week) The what now? Obviously such assumptions have to be made to obtain the sought for result. It's useless like most social sciences junk studies. First of all, you would have to be sure that men and women are not lying in their self-reported numbers of sex partners when you know damn well that men will exaggerate upwards and women downwards. Second, having sex, even when it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:22 AM
15

She is a victim of her own popularity. The attention she gets, and I am sure there is a lot of it, convinced her that she is a part of the upper crust of society, rather than what she really is - a pretty female face who can string two sentences together and, as such, is a black swan of social and political commentary. The reason why she broke up with her 'perfect' fiancee is that she began to perceive him to be lower on the social strata than her. This is typically a death knell to a relationsh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/08/20 04:36 PM
10

In broad terms, things are going well due to technological progress. We now have conveniences at our disposal that would have been the stuff of science fiction a generation ago, and the stuff of magic for our grandparents. On the other hand, Western society is increasingly gynocentric and boys are going through tough times as individuals. This represents some danger to social stability because if too many men become disenfranchised, they will stop putting in the effort to maintain the system, an…
/r/MensRights18/08/20 12:25 PM
1

A man's value is not tied to his looks/sexual prowess, but to his status, and that tends to grow with age, on average. Obviously men who achieve nothing in life do not see their SMV increase. That should be obvious. So it's not enough to just sit on one's lazy haunches and wait for bitches to come running. Always remember the golden rule - women don't love you for you, they love the resources you provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:56 AM
2

For some reason you keep thinking that repeatedly calling someone an incel is going to shame them or convince to your argument. You haven't noticed that I am not advocating for any revolution to come to pass. I am simply stating that it will happen if certain circumstances occur, namely that a combustion level threshold of dissatisfied men is reached.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 08:26 PM
3

Marriage rates are dropping and more young men are sexless than in the past so it's reasonable to assume that men's happiness level is going down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 05:09 PM
5

As I said before, the stability of this system depends on how many men it keeps happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 11:30 AM
9

Ironically, women win as long as there is a robust safety net system set up and run by men. Otherwise women would actually have to rely on individual men for protection rather than a faceless government who doles out money, resources, and law enforcement cudgel. So women win as long as men play the game of a structured society. This society only makes sense, however, if the majority of men can find women to partner, marry, and have children with. Failing that, men will destroy the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:05 AM
16

You do understand that you are just banning stuff that you do not agree with? You are not the first and not the last people who cannot wield even the most superficial authority. The subreddit will go dead within a couple of weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 02:50 PM
18

Yeah, understanding the consequences would usually result in avoiding dumb choices. They understand getting kicked in the ass, but only after it happens.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/20 01:04 PM
12

It became sentient! Run!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/20 01:02 PM
3

What the fuck is wrong with the medical establishment to still practice this unnecessary, superstition-based, Jewish religious practice on unsuspecting babies? If an adult man wants to chop part of his dick off, let him at it, but childhood circumcision should be banned just like any harmful medical practice was banned as soon as we knew better.
/r/MensRights16/08/20 05:53 AM
7

Definitely file a civil lawsuit, perhaps a counter-lawsuit as well if possible. Start a gofundme for legal costs. You already wrote down the story, hopefully you can post publicly about it. Consult an attorney at least for that. Also, very important, but one way or another, your accuser's identity needs to be "leaked out". There needs to be a dedicated website, hosted on some offshore server, where exposed false accusers are listed. Otherwise nothing will ever change as currently they are next t…
/r/MensRights15/08/20 05:39 AM
1

It doesn't start at 30 but it's looming on the horizon
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:40 PM
-2

It's basically a trap. Young women are lured in with the promise of endless fun and no accountability, and for a while, life delivers. By the time they realize that there are far more important things in life, it's usually too late to undo the damage. A healthy relationship with a viable partner is hard to get and it gets harder with each passing day. Mounting desperation sets in as the looming menopause takes all of the fun out of courtship and flirting. This is settling time, but even "settlin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 09:03 PM
3

Some men actually are nice guys, but I agree that if a timid approach is made out of fear, then it's not really a good quality.
/r/seduction14/08/20 05:44 PM
1

People abuse authority and judges are no exception. There is little oversight in regards to what they do and it takes a lot to focus the lens so they are held accountable. On a day to day basis, judges can work largely outside of the law as they know the limits they can push without getting into trouble.
/r/MensRights13/08/20 10:55 AM
4

Incels - the bottom 99% of men.
/r/MGTOW11/08/20 01:26 PM
1

That's the essence of it. I think it takes a certain level of ill will to not understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 12:31 PM
1

Men wouldn't have a problem, but women do so in turn men have to care if they want to stay married. There is also a difference if a wife starts making more money during the marriage or if she was already a higher earner. The former is a death knell to the relatiknship while the latter sometimes works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:15 AM
2

The first thing to ask would be whether the majority of men want to be players. Some definitely do, but from casual observation I would guess that there are more of those who just want a good, stable relationship. So telling men that don't want to be players that they will never be players is an exercise in futility. No one cares. There is also an illogical argument in the post claiming that TRP is wrong about modern women/feminism because proponents of TRP are low value losers. One is not direc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 05:29 PM
33

This is mainly an American thing. In half decent countries, this just isn't the case. This tends to be the situation in countries where women are well off and society seldom holds them accountable for their actions. The default attitude is to excuse anything bad that a woman does, usually by finding a man who is to blame for putting her on the wrong path.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 03:31 PM
10

They're not worthless to their own children, or to their wives. Men need to show value to have a wife and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 07:53 AM
3

New research shows that rape is bad...
/r/seduction09/08/20 06:38 AM
1

TRP is not a strategy for finding a wife if you want a trad wife and marriage. That this even needs to be said speaks volumes about the power of beliefs to completly trump logic. You can get married while knowing the risks. That's what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 06:01 AM
7

Quality programming. I am hooked.
/r/MGTOW07/08/20 01:49 PM
41

She deserves more... at least in her peanut brain.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 04:42 AM
1

There are two main issues with this. The first is that men have a biological imperative to ensure that they are fathers of their children. Even if there are some men who wouldn't care about it, the majority would not stay in a relationship where they are not exclusive at the times of procreation, so at least for several years. Otherwise they would either leave or fight the other men to force them to leave. The second is that women may like the idea of having many men around, but would not like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 05:02 AM
45

That's not how she rolls.
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 05:57 PM
12

I’m not afraid to call guys my age out for it. I once pretended to be waiter, and asked a guy “if his niece wants a happy meal”. I don’t give a f....quit being a perv, if you don’t want me visiting your table! :)) Or maybe you should do you and let others live their lives as they see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 07:20 PM
37

12 stabs is accidental. 13 stabs would have been murder.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 07:14 PM
344

The narrative is something like this: "Good morning Mr. Depp, have you stopped beating your wife yet? No, don't answer that. We know you haven't. The real question is, since you are a man who was accused by a woman, shouldn't you just kill yourself?"
/r/MensRights03/08/20 01:06 PM
2

At least be honest. You removed it because you disagree with it, not because of "low effort", which isn't even in the rules anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 09:36 AM
1

I don't agree that it's unfiltered honesty. It's just viewing other people as resources and I do think that it's inherently wrong. Just because it's wrong, doesn't mean it's dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 09:16 AM
7

Yes, at least he has an excuse. So many men don't.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/20 08:20 AM
3

Yes, that's exactly what is programmed into women still. That men are interchangeable and only as good as the benefit they bring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:12 PM
40

It's fine to be cautious in life and it's a good thing to advise women to avoid putting themselves in compromising situations. However, there is a difference between caution and paranoia. Getting passed-out drunk at a party full of strangers, for example, is stupid and asking for trouble. Getting driving instructions from somebody who is licensed to provide them, whose name is known, and whose other personal details can be easily obtained, is just living a normal life.
/r/MensRights01/08/20 06:33 PM
24

It's a preview of what a leftist utopia looks like. Given the slightest bit of authority, abuse starts immediately. Also, if you want to troll post history, it appears that he is an unemployed loser: dumbassthenesKauai2 points·20 days ago I am currently unemployed and totally lacking worthwhile prospects. The work I've been offered pays so little that I can't accept it.
/r/MGTOW01/08/20 05:46 AM
40

Lack of proper male role models creates "nice guys". It's not a coincidence that there are more and more of them at the same time when there is an explosion of single parent households and continuing demonization of masculinity in education, workplace, and of course in the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 10:46 AM
1

Actually, when somebody is at their worst, they probably need to be slapped back into shape, figuratively speaking. A healthy relationship is not about accepting any and all behavior of a partner. There are limits and it's a two way street to establish them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:31 AM
8

"Men's rights activism is similar to the people saying all lives matter". Don't led the idiots of this world gaslight you into thinking that there is anything wrong with fighting for men's rights or saying that all lives matter, which they do. A major flag that something is wrong is precisely in the fact that perfectly normal views are decried as offensive. Feminists are trying to normalize discrimination against men and white men in particular. Don't buy into their BS. "It's a distraction from …
/r/MensRights30/07/20 09:24 AM
2

Which doesn't happen when accounting for experience, qualifications, performance, hours worked. Companies are super careful not to underpay women so if there is any problem, it's probably that younger men who entered the workforce in the past 10 years are underpaid compared to female counterparts.
/r/MensRights30/07/20 09:10 AM
7

Yes, one child needs to pay for the mother's lies. It's unfortunate, but it's for the greater good. As long as men consistently refuse to raise children that were falsely claimed to be their own, the problem will greatly diminish, as women will be held to account for their actions, and far fewer children will suffer in the long term.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/07/20 07:20 PM
1

Yes, men and women experience love differently. It's not that women experience no feelings, it's that they get attached to how a man reflects his status back onto a woman and how that makes her feel. The parable about Narcissus and the lake is very apt. On a slightly different but related note, if you look around, there are SO many women in otherwise happy relationships who are nonetheless unhappy because there is not enough excitement in their life. It is somehow endemic to women's nature that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:14 PM
10

Yes. Women consider men completely replaceable as people since their value is entirely tied up in the benefit they provide to them. So one man who makes $100K is indistinguishable from another who makes $100K, but is worth twice as much to a woman as someone who makes $50K.
/r/MGTOW26/07/20 06:05 PM
6

The difference is that men actually fall in love with the women they marry and it's independent of that woman's social/material status. Men fall in love with a person whereas women choose a man who can provide the most perks, but is otherwise completely replaceable. His unique humanity is of little to no importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:32 PM
5

It’s going to be silent miserable deaths that not many will care about. These men won’t vote and if they do it will be none pc parties and politics, which will make them pariahs of society. As a man, the poverty and lack of social and political capital will render you useless to society, and it already shows a bit in how little men’s issues are studied in universities and how little is being done to help men succeed in school. I always say that men need to rely on themselves alone. No one will h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:20 AM
1

Women like the idea of travel to exotic places as something that glamorous people do. Not so much the travelling itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:17 AM
10

You don't need to search far. Circumcision is fairly uniquely practiced in the US and among people observing Judaism tradition. The rest of the world doesn't do it and there is no decreased life span among men in countries that have a comparable standard of living to the US.
/r/MensRights25/07/20 01:07 PM
3

No surprise there given that it's BBC. It would physically kill them to report in an unbiased way.
/r/MensRights24/07/20 12:55 PM
1

Obviously women have it easier when it comes to finding relationships. Any woman of average attractiveness can find a man willing to be with her in short order. It is of no benefit to admit that though. The question is whether women can find men whom they really want to be with, and that's of course a more difficult matter. Paradoxically, even though women have access to far more men than in the past, the abundance of choice actually works to their detriment in some ways. Within a smaller pool o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 06:14 PM
1

If a man did this, wouldn't he be immediately arrested and then convicted of a sexual offence?
/r/MGTOW21/07/20 06:16 AM
17

In other words, is it possible that even in the "good old days" the majority of women did not actually have any sexual desire for their husbands? Correct. Women married because there was societal pressure to do so. Divorce was shunned and ostracized so people stayed married for life for the most part. Have the bulk women essentially been sex trafficked for most of history--forced to give sex for other things, but rarely actually desiring the sex itself? It provided social stability and kept the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:55 AM
1

Career choice is mostly irrelevant to a woman's relationship success. Being funny is also not a prerequisite so women, particularly attractive ones, never really develop the ability to crack jokes. They get attention without it. Being an "interesting" person is rather vague, but perhaps this is one quality that men would actually be looking for, especially high value men who have some choice available to them. What is universally sought by men is that their partner should be feminine, affectiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 08:03 AM
23

I am sure she would enjoy the wartime gang rapes.
/r/MGTOW19/07/20 05:07 PM
3

It has never been replicated. A study is only reliable if many authors come to the same conclusion. This is the first and only study in history that comes to the conclusion that promiscuous women “cheat less”. No other study in the past has come to this conclusion, and no other study since then has come to that conclusion either. Therefore, the study is not reliable. Social sciences are notorious for having non-replicated studies. It's too easy to get the result that you want so it's no surprise…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 07:30 AM
13

In galactic terms, assuming there is plenty of intelligent life elsewhere, we are most likely quite average. It's also possible that what we are is about optimal. We are selfish and aggressive, which drives us to compete with others, but not overly so, hence we did not self-destruct.
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 06:20 AM
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This one point took me the longest to understand. A woman cannot love you. She can love your car, your money, your job and the status it provides ("my husband is a lawyer/manager/etc), but she will never really love you. This is a hard truth for men to accept, but it is true nonetheless. Women don't love men in the same way that men love women. Women are attracted to men's status and all the perks it provides while men themselves are replaceable plug-and-play pieces of hardware.
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 06:16 AM
3

Wait until you're shamelessly hit upon by older women. No, they aren't hot. Yes they are likely alcoholic, crass, inappropriate etc. but they are available for a bang, and that's all Why would anyone want so much liability for so little reward? Hiring a young, attractive prostitute sounds like a much better option. Of course it takes some money to pull that off consistently, but then again, as a man, you will need money to live a good life anyway. Poor men are always the dregs of society, never …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:36 PM
10

So that's how you spell "damage control". I always find that one tricky.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 09:37 PM
128

It's funny how purely hate-oriented subs like this are allowed to exist.
/r/MensRights16/07/20 07:19 PM
3

I didn't care at the time becouse I never saw her like more than a fwb but I must admit I grew tired of watching her being treated like a prostitute, and her allowing it just for a fucking picture in a yatch, an expensive car or at a pool, always pursuing a life she couldn't afford. She wasn't treated like a prostitute. She was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 07:13 PM
1

Most men can treat sex as just a short lived, pleasurable act without any further meaning. For most women, sex is an emotional experience. Women who cheat, typically do so when they want out of a relationship and are checking out potential mates. Men cheat simply for fresh sexual thrills after the relationship honeymoon period ends, but typically do not seek to exit their present relationships at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:25 AM
1

Whatever it is you do in life, I am sure that you are considering the chances of success while doing it. For example, would you go through life without obtaining any job qualifications or employment, banking on the chance that you are going to be a lottery winner and instantly rich? I seriously doubt it. And yet, there are people who do win the lottery, so why not? If you understand this simple analogy, then you understand why men try to mold themselves to appeal to the greatest possible portion…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:19 AM
3

What happened during prior generations is different from what is happening today. Society used to exert a lot of pressure on women to find dependable men. It no longer does that so women, young women especially, follow more basic instincts that drive them towards high status men, virtuous or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:15 AM
9

Does she use a $1.99 webcam from Walmart? One would think she could afford something half decent on a congressional salary. There was of course never any talk about higher pay for high risk jobs until some women started working in hazardous conditions. As for men dying on the job? Who cares?
/r/MensRights15/07/20 06:44 PM
8

I never heard about him before (gee, I wonder why), but his list of achievements is impressive. Now I want to know who killed him. Not very likely to be random.
/r/MensRights14/07/20 06:07 AM
1

Well, yes, of course, because men and women are biologically different and many behaviors stem from that, including being more selective for mating. This is also why trying to make men and women have parity in everything, STEM subjects for example that women are less interested in, makes no sense. It's forcing a square peg into a round hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:12 AM
8

But this is about what percentage of opposite sex members did men and women find attractive. You are not limited to finding just one person attractive. It doesn't matter that there are more men than women on the site. The result is basically that if you show women 10 photos of men, they will only find 2 of them attractive. For men it's pretty much the opposite in the sense that they would find 7-8 out of 10 attractive enough to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:22 PM
2

But there is nothing in particular for women. You can get tons of jobs, many of them high paying, based on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 11:13 AM
8

Basically like Hollywood stars, all the time VIP treatment with high price. Why is this a high price? It seems like a few minor inconveniences in exchange for a world of opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 11:11 AM
1

Your value as a man does not rest on what financial resources you bring into relationship. Your inherent value as a person, no. But your value to a woman absolutely depends on the resources and status you bring into a relationship. Women who are "not like that" are very few and far in-between. It's a biological imperative.
/r/MensRights11/07/20 07:09 PM
1

It's concentrated hate.
/r/MensRights11/07/20 07:07 PM
1

Yes, getting the right to vote is bigger issue than having to support your own kid because you didn’t wear a condom. Getting lynched is a bigger issue than the financial loss you had because you didn’t get a prenup. Except that everyone has the right to vote, at least in the West, and no one is getting lynched.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:43 PM
1

If the sex act was the final act of consent for having a child then abortions (real, not financial) would have to be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 01:35 PM
23

so literally now after centuries of revolutions, labor movements, the civil rights movement, men are wholly unable to start a lobbying group because feminists will make tweets about them and oppose them? Do you think losing your livelihood and being publically smeared is a small thing? Don't think for a second that the person to promote DNA paternity testing would be treated fairly either. They would be labelled a sexist, misogynist pig, and probably a child molester too. Try to untangle that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:31 PM
6

Women used to cheat less because society was structured in a way that provided fewer opportunities. Plus, adulteresses were treated very harshly by society. Also, people are not shamed for having sex. It's that they are breaking trust and betraying a person they are supposed to be committed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 08:39 AM
8

I know two cops now and both told me that sometimes they have to patrol with little women(i dont mean in a bad way, they were just small for cops) and they said everytime they had a call, they would say that they would wait in the car and call back up if needed.... :/ Then back-up arrives and it's the 100lbs twins.
/r/MensRights06/07/20 07:45 PM
1

See, sociology ans psychology studies are some of the most worthless in science. They reflect gas more the biases of those who run them than any objective truth. All you have to do is look around at major attraction turnoffs for women. Shortness and baldness. Take this percentage of men who are short and or balding and you have a pretty good idea on the number of men who struggle mightily with getting women. Of course they can sometime get them, but it's a super high hill to climb. Aside from he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:12 AM
9

I know quite a few wealthy guys. Most of them are married like society expects them to, but there are those who keep playing the game. Some actually pay girls to be their faux spouses. It's quite easy. You give her a few thousand per month and get all the perks of a relationship without actually being in one.
/r/MGTOW26/06/20 07:46 PM
10

The difference in how men's and women's attraction levels fluctuate is quite interesting. For men, it tends to be sky-high in the beginning, followed by a gentle slide downwards. For women, it's really all over the place. It can go very high or very low in a short amount of time depending on circumstances. It's a byproduct of the fact that men are attracted mainly by looks whereas women biologically crave high status men. Good looks are a big plus for men, but it's not all that there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 02:39 PM
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There isn’t a single women I know who has gotten into a relationship with a man she didn’t find attractive just for money or resource. There has been some exceptions of course and most of these women were blatant gold diggers with a certain mentality that anyone would half brain could see what their intentions were. You are contradicting yourself straight away. How do you know when a woman is attracted or just pretending anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 02:25 PM
16

I used to work for a corporation in the IT sector, moving with time from bottom of the barrel software developer to middle management. Then I left and started my own company, which I run to this day. I happen to be married now, but back during my single, corporate days, I attended quite a few work-related social events where it was distinctly uncomfortable to be a single man. Unfortunate, but true.
/r/MGTOW26/06/20 01:43 PM
45

It does exist when it comes to high positions. You have to do a lot of networking to get to the top ranks of any sizable corporation and that will involve a lot of social events where you essentially have to bring a spouse or otherwise you will lose major points.
/r/MGTOW26/06/20 01:29 PM
13

This is perfectly fine. It seems like they are calling for segregation and physical separation. That's the only way that whites will not contribute. I am more and more in support of that every day seeing what's going on around me.
/r/MensRights24/06/20 05:49 PM
6

Men assess women primarily based on looks so if she is a swipe-hard-right in that department, it takes a lot of negatives everywhere else to turn a guy off of her. Another factor is that men seldom have the luxury of choice such that there would be more than one attractive woman willing to be with them at a given time. So it's either her or five years of forced celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:09 PM
22

Just curious where Twitter stands on people advocating crime on their platform. I hear they are totally cool with it as long as it's female on male crime.
/r/MensRights17/06/20 05:12 PM
2

It's young women who chose older men. No one's forcing them to do so. It's actually FDS that is trying to make them conform to "correct" standards of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:34 AM
4

FDS also teaches that women need to collectively do this so older men (who hit the wall) are unable to get a young, hot women. No, it's really so that aging women, who usually are the ones who get uptight about men dating younger women, do not get completely shut out of the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:09 AM
12

The redpill notion repeated on this forum that women can easily get sex and attention from attractive men is not true in my experience. You certainly can, although you generally have to be about average looking or above. This has been proven many times by men who create fake online profiles with pictures of girl-next-door types and get flooded with sexual proposals and many of them come from attractive looking men. So it's definitely a thing. You made your post hyperbolic saying that women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:48 AM
31

I don't think you have put any myth to bed. It's rather that you have realized what many red pillers are saying, which is that women can get sex from high value men fairly easily, but they won't get commitment. The numbers don't work. Women are currently deluded in thinking that while being distinctly average themselves, they can score very high status men, but the level of attention they get from men leads them to believe otherwise. This is why women these days routinely reject the type of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:24 AM
1

Well, you do need to be more proactive and respond to cues. She gave you a lot of leeway already. Most girls would have just left without a kiss and ghosted you by this point. I am guessing that she will do that as well after the next meeting unless you can learn to relax around her and act on your instincts. If your instinct tells you that you want to kiss her and the moment "feels" right, go for it. If she doesn't want it, she will pull away. It beats not trying at all.
/r/seduction15/06/20 07:36 PM
3

Safe to say that this man has many many problems of a mental nature and they are not limited to his views on male sexuality.
/r/MensRights14/06/20 07:00 PM
3

You need that if you want to have a stable society. In order for men to be invested and productive, they have to have a realistic path to sex with women and later to having a family of their own. The road that we are on right now leads to short term happiness for women in exchange for societal breakdown and mayhem later on. It's not a good trade off, but it's difficult to right the ship once it has veered off course like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 05:52 AM
0

Tbh what makes players so appealing is how they don’t put women on a pedestal and what I mean by that is that they respect themselves. See this is a complete misunderstanding of the male nature. Men who CARE will idealize you, there is nothing inherently wrong with that, and you have to screw up really badly to disappoint them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 01:24 PM
3

The answer: split the bill on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 01:20 PM
1

I don't think that men generally want "just sex" unless they have an abundance of choice. That's a small minority of men. The alpha aspect that men want is genuine attraction from women rather than being a calculated choice. So they actually care about what women feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 08:56 AM
15

Fuckboys lie to get pussy. They act like they are open to getting into a relationship and dip when the girl pushes to make things exclusive. If these guys told girls straight up that they aren't interested in a relationship , girls would never have sex with them. If women told men, straight up, that they want to marry them for their resources and status, there would hardly be any marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:00 AM
2

Men rate women on a much more even-keeled scale in the same studies though. The majority of women are rated to be about average in looks, and there is basically the same number of women who are decidedly above average as below average. So it does seem that men are attracted to a much greater proportion of the female population than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 03:27 PM
3

I hardly know any 18-24 girls who would settle for unattractive guys for $$. Few people get married at this age nowadays, so there is little settling going on in that demographic. Women go for physically attractive guys in their youth. When longer term planning kicks in, especially involving offspring and comfort of living, women assess men on status, which supersedes sexual attraction or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 07:56 AM
7

Is it not compelling or simply uncomfortable? According to how women rate men on dating sites, they only find 20-30% of men to be attractive. The rest are rated as below average or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 07:52 AM
1

Dude, read all the responses on this topic. There's tons of men who are saying they wish they could open up about their emotions more and how unfair it is that they get treated weird by women when they spill their guts, and deep down men have all these difficult feelings they wish they could share. This is what men today think that women want them to say, not what they actually feel. Though there are far more men nowadays who were raised without fathers or proper male role models so they are, fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 02:28 PM
2

There are two problems here at least: These guys are helping girls on account of the fact that they are young, attractive girls. I've lived long enough to be quite certain of that. They are not even close to them as friends. Even if you expect nothing in return for your help, any self-respecting person should OFFER and INSIST on paying it back as soon as they get on their feet and before they do something for themselves beyond securing own food and shelter. These girls just live rent free and th…
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 11:41 AM
6

The OP just took in a female "friend" with who he "wasn't super close" and he's basically letting her live at his place, rent free, totally not because he wants to sleep with her. He's also very emotionally distraught about the possibility of her being distraught. One of the responses says the following: She came and stayed at my house for a few weeks, met my family, walked my dog, helped around the house, slept on the couch and was extremely grateful. The day I dropped her off at rehab she gave…
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 08:59 AM
4

There is no one stopping you from doing that. The difference is that men consider their own feelings when it comes to dating women, whereas women give great weight to the opinions of society. If a man is not generally respected, or feared, he will do very poorly in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 09:04 AM
35

what do Red Pill men do to get the relief of emotionally opening up to someone and getting support and advice when they have difficult problems or want to ease the load of expectations for a bit? You don't "open up" to anyone because generally no one will help you, except in some specific situations, in which case you already know who to turn to. Men don't talk about their problems, as it's just a waste of time, they go about fixing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:31 AM
6

Lack of proper role models. Probably no father presence growing up.
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 03:55 PM
3

That's because women don't really do any marrying down in terms of education. College degrees are given out with breakfast cereal these days, albeit a very expensive breakfast cereal, and women are getting the majority of these degrees. The thing is, they tend to stay away from subjects that would require a lot of effort and lead to a lucrative job afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 08:26 PM
4

Sexual attraction is discriminatory in nature. It can't be helped. Women are attracted to tall men, which is actually more discriminatory than men's preference for weight proportional females. You can take inches off your waistline, you can't add any to your height regardless of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 08:19 PM
41

Women are not willing to date men whom they see as socially or economically "lower".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:17 PM
148

You are looking at extremes. When men say they don't care about women's education level or career success, it doesn't mean they want someone completely vapid. It just means they are perfectly fine with a woman who is of average intelligence and average ambition as long as she is a good person and not hideous to look at. She absolutely doesn't need to be supermodel level in looks. "Not fat" will usually suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:24 AM
7

Hopefully they learned something from this, although I wouldn't hold my breath.
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 01:50 PM
1

It should really say "Black men are being killed by black men". That's the most accurate description of the problem.
/r/MensRights03/06/20 07:12 AM
2

How difficult is it exactly to avoid men on tinder who act in sexually aggressive ways? Pick someone who is reasonably within your attractiveness bracket, be realistic about it, invest time in that person, and go from there. Or use a better tool than tinder to make the initial selection where you can actually evaluate someone's profile and pick a person who seems interesting and compatible. This is not rocket science you are making it out to be. Unless you are only picking brad Pitt look alikes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:37 AM
11

Women are choosing primarily high value men to have sex with and those men do not commit often as they have an abundance of choice themselves. So the perception women get is that men are only looking for sex when the truth is that women are punching above their weight and naturally they get taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:12 AM
3

Biology. Men are literally far more disposable than women, due to how procreation works, and this is manifested in our feelings and behavior. Men have far greater protective instincts towards women than vice versa. Women have strong protective instincts too, but they are generally reserved for their own children only. So we end up in a situation where society in general builds far more support structures to protect women, while men are supposed to fend for themselves and are not expected to reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:20 PM
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There were fewer avenues in the past for women to be exposed to high value men like they have now with the ease of travel (well, not during COVID, but otherwise) and the internet. Also, remaining single for women was generally shunned, rather than celebrated and encouraged like it is today. With the abundance of choice, which is somewhat illusory, but still, and the glorification of single life, women are rejecting all but the highest value men, which sets almost impossible standards for average…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:13 AM
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The question makes no sense to ask because you will never get an honest answer. Not even due to any wilful deception on women's part, but because rationally women want a man who will show feelings, it's the visceral, instinctual side that will feel repulsed when they experience a man who emotes. So the answer given when the rational part of the brain is operating is not really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 01:41 AM
3

These points are not convenient to the mainstream media narrative so of course they never talk about it. They prefer to stoke animosity. Riots are good for views and clicks.
/r/MensRights01/06/20 08:22 AM
4

But the stats suggest that they don't. The total number of white people killed by the police is higher than any other ethnicity year after year although of course whites are the numerical majority. However, adjusted for crime rates, and especially violent crime, white people are killed by the police at the same rate as black people.
/r/MensRights01/06/20 05:21 AM
2

The sexes are not the same. Women are ensured of motherhood because babies come out of the womb. Men can never be sure (unless modern DNA testing is involved) so women's promiscuity is a greater "sin" than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 04:40 AM
4

On average women do have it easier than men. Far fewer of them are homeless as most of the time there is someone to take care of their needs. They can get into relationships without the prerequisite of achievement and their economic situation is of small concern to potential partners. Women generally have more support in society and are met with greater compassion when they face problem. That doesn't make their life easy, but it is easier than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:51 PM
1

This is exactly why I am predicting and already seeing the decline of modern version of feminism. Girl power/boys toxic paradigm is great until it negatively affects the men in your life. And I don't mean yours specifically, just women's in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:03 AM
1

That's a wise approach. It's great that you didn't buy into the feminist propaganda that has as its core goals the destruction of family and demotion of men to the status of servant eunuchs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:20 AM
20

Overt perversion, threats, awkward people, etc. and it really is exhausting to maintain a flirty level of energy when you have to keep up with 10, 20, 30+ thirsty dudes at the same time. So I empathize. The problem here isn't with "thirsty dudes", but with a woman who is trying to juggle 20 guys at the same time instead of just choosing and focusing her attention on one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:11 PM
2

What level of effort do you put in?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 12:38 PM
5

It’s like they have no idea what dating is like for the average guy. Well, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:45 PM
1

All men are insecure about this particular thing because they cannot be certain of paternity in the way that women are certain of maternity as kids come out of their wombs. Honestly, if there are men saying that they don't care about the number of men a woman has been with, they are just telling you what you want to hear to get in your good graces.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:29 PM
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Almost all men care because they want to be sure that their future children are their own. Promiscuity is a red flag saying that a woman has a propensity for having sex with many men and that puts paternity at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:26 PM
4

You can disagree all you want, but it is something important to men and it will always be important. Biological imperative at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 10:22 PM
5

No one said it's a "be all reason", but it is a factor and quite an important one. It's an indicator of what can be expected and it has to be factored in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:09 PM
2

It does take away because with all those unwanted pregnancies and abortions, men have every reason to worry about promiscuous women cuckolding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:01 PM
4

And yet there are thousands and thousands of unwanted pregnancies every year. Isn't the fight for abortion rights one of the key issues that people are fighting over right now? So where do those babies come from? Storks drop them off? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:34 PM
17

Some renegade scientists suggest that it asymptotically approaches zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:29 PM
2

They try and cite legitimate reasons such as it being their desire to make sure their offspring is theirs, even though those kind of scenarios are unbelievably rare. How do you know those scenarios are so rare? It is absolutely imperative for men to ensure that their children are biologically their own. It's the male equivalent of the maternal instinct. It's very strong and it's definitely not going to go away. A woman's promiscuity suggests that she is likely to bed with another man and perhaps…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:23 PM
5

Most women marry at 27/28 with someone they've been dating for 4/5 years. Therefore they met at 22/23. Why don't these guys see this? Because many of them are teenagers and literally don't have any experience with women 22-30. Most marriages (50-60%) also end in divorce after a few years and about 75% of divorces are initiated by women. Also, there are no stats for this, but many marriages involve adultery along the way. I have female friends who go to class and go back home to watch netflix the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 07:38 PM
2

No. I'm saying that women's choice to spend a significant part of their time to raise their children often means that they sacrifice some of their potential economic power. Well, yes, that's the choice they make. If they want to have children, it comes with that implication, but that's not all of the story. More below. They often lack relative freedom compared to men who can just continue to work late hours even while their working wives conceive and are taking care of children. This is why so m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:23 AM
0

TIL "having laws protect you all" means everything is absolutely fair without question. Here, I'm going to introduce a featherweight law: if two people are disputing a civil suit, the lighter weight person wins by default. See? That law protects both men and women! It's fair! So what are those laws that treat women unfairly? I noticed you haven't given an example, just made up some absurd straw man. I can give you one important legal-related one in the other direction: women get far shorter sent…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:17 AM
1

When I say "no prizes", I mean they wouldn't win Mr Universum (or whatever that is). It's not that they are all total losers. They are just normal guys. But when plain becomes abundant, it will be ignored whereas otherwise it might not have been. It's much like with people who are moving up economically. A small house with a white picket fence may once have been lovely, but when money keeps pouring in, every neighborhood starts looking like a dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:34 PM
1

Tinder isn't the only place women can go for validation. That's one thing. The other is that just because women don't dwell on Tinder, doesn't mean they haven't tried it. Probably signed up one evening while chilling with some wine, got ambushed by an avalanche of men, most of them no prizes, who ALL swiped right on her, and quickly noped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:22 PM
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They get heaps of interest from men, ergo - they have tons of choices. Choices are good in general, but you know that feeling when you see so many tasty choices in a restaurant menu, that you are at a complete loss at what to pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:15 PM
1

​ Political: This one is going to trigger all of the right-wingers here, lol. Personally, I like that women can vote because they tend to vote in their own self interest - which makes them vote more towards the left. It's so good that you approve of women's right to vote. Lol. Pat on the back for you. Social: The most notable example that I can think of for this category is women’s relatively recent ability to speak their mind without consequence and to pursue careers/vocations that interest the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:06 PM
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Because a woman wants to choose the highest value mate and Tinder is about the worst place to do that. A seedy bar gives you more of a chance to assess a person than Tinder. So of course they avoid it unless they really want a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:05 PM
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I don't think that they have full economic freedom yet. There is still a glass ceiling at many top companies, and women taking time off to take care of children can hurt their career prospects. This may be "fair" because of the fact that the men in those same companies have worked harder while the woman was taking that time off, but it's still not "full freedom" in my mind. So what are you advocating? That women should be promoted over men regardless of merit? I hope not... Also, women do have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:43 PM
2

​ Probably not safe to say entirely. But it is is safe to say it's better than Somalia. What laws are there for men that do not also protect women? About the only topic is abortion, as it's female specific, but this is a difficult subject with no clear cut answer (another discussion perhaps). Maybe by incels, but I don't think anyone else is saying that. Wait are there red-pillers who seriously blame women's sexual and economic liberation for a failure to get laid? I hope not. The number of sexl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:41 PM
2

Young men and boys shouldn't be competing against their age equivalent females. Sort of. I would rather say that school curriculums and the whole setup of school is antithetic to boys' nature. You can see that when rubber meets the road and it comes time to make higher education choices, it's boys who go the difficult route and excel far more than women do. This is because women aren't really better academically, they are just more studious during school years, rote-learning for specific tests, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:28 PM
0

Incels didn't "invade". They were always around. It's just that men are now a lot more likely to admit that they struggle to get women than it used to be. Probably because more and more of them are left out in the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:09 AM
5

2/10 troll post. It immediately concedes ground that women only care about looks. That's a precedent which will bite one right back in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:19 PM
1

It is not that the morals are actually desirable - all people want to humiliate and destroy their enemies. Morals really are either constraints imposed by Masters to control the slaves, or used by the slaves to stop the Masters from beating their ass. That means morals are actually good. They create stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:16 PM
1

I like her for her personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:35 PM
1

I definitely care. I would prefer for my society to last a thousand years instead of ten.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:59 PM
1

Human history is full of far reaching efforts to control sexuality and there is a good reason for that. While we can say that things don't have to be fair, and people can act in freewheeling ways according to personal wants and preferences, it's not always the best thing for society. If you notice, societies that go decadent and promiscuous never last very long. People have fun in the short term, but there is always a big price to pay down the road. On the other hand, societies with lots of rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:56 PM
3

This is the answer. TRP is not a guaranteed solution, it is an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:15 AM
3

1) Hollywood. Three things here. One is that plenty of movies these days feature female protagonists and actresses in Hollywood are paid just as well as actors are. Another is that it's an archetypal, traditional hero's journey to show a man of humble origins going against diversity and overcoming it to become a prince and get the princess in the process. This is a shorthand metaphor of men investing in their society, often by risking their lives, and in exchange getting access to positions of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:43 AM
3

Society determines what attractive looks like. In other cultures we see all sorts of variations on attractiveness with some reshaping their heads into a cone or elongating their necks with metal rings. Some even force-feed their female children because obesity is a marker for beauty in their culture. Body modifications, especially permanent ones, have more to do with tribalism than sexual attraction. If you put something on your body that is difficult or impossible to remove, and it's a custom o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:36 AM
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Do a thought experiment. Imagine that someone constructs a thinking machine with a fantastic personality, but its physical form is a metal box with a loudspeaker. No human being will become romantically, not to mention sexually, attracted to that machine because you can't bypass the role of biology in all of this. By extension of that, people who are physically more attractive naturally have more success in attracting potential mates than homely ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:33 PM
3

Is there really an argument that women shouldn't be selective for casual sex? I think it's more along the lines that women shouldn't have too much casual sex with many partners, high value or not, as it diminishes their relationship prospects. There is a big difference in a woman being able to obtain casual sex vs long term commitment, which creates an often seen fallacy of "I can have any man that I want". Not only are high value men unlikely to commit, but sleeping around also has an effect of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:00 AM
1

I guess the question is then would you have agreed to a date if you saw a 5'4 guy's online profile? There is strong circumstantial evidence that you wouldn't because most women won't even consider a short guy regardless of his merit as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:33 AM
6

Women compare you to other men, not themselves or other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:29 AM
10

You have to remember the chain of events. Men didn't start out by lying about their height online. Women stated their preference on dating sites with posts like "I only date guys 6ft and taller, haha", which triggered an avalanche.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:28 AM
2

Not carefree or perfect, but considerably easier than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:03 PM
3

It's not either/or. Women are responsible for their actions, but society as a whole is not helping, and women are essentially reacting to how far they can push the boundaries and get away with it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/20 03:56 PM
11

I agree, but a big chunk of society is acting as if women are perpetual children, at least when convenient.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/20 01:54 PM
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I think the point is that they accepted the fact that their profession was not a reputable one and did not aspire to virtue they did not possess.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/20 01:17 PM
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As a society, we are doing women a great disservice by reinforcing the idea that they are not responsible for their actions. You see it everywhere. Goes out in revealing clothing: why are they honking and cat-calling? Sleeps around: why are they calling me a slut? Posts a nude photo: why don't they respect me? The damage runs deep and it will take a long time to unwind even under the best scenario.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/20 01:14 PM
1

It is manipulation if you dangle a relationship but actually have no intention of following through.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:54 PM
3

As you can see, women have a psychopathic lack of empathy for men. This is because they don't see or love men as people. Women only see the status and benefits that men can provide for them, but the males themselves are irrelevant and disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:18 AM
1

Learn how to cook and clean.
/r/seduction27/04/20 03:53 PM
1

So what's going to happen to dating? Extinction of the sub-6ft man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:50 PM
2

If I follow the redpill ideology it says that the best thing I should do at 21, should be to stop going to uni, get married to a man 10-15 years older than me and be a SAHM. Strawman argument right off the bat. It's not that you should be a SAHM mom, it's that it's a viable and honorable life path that is unjustly villainized to shepherd women away from family life and into "careers". He’s not the only one, cause most of my friends that had a great relationship with their fathers seems to get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:40 AM
2

Time and space are your best friends. Implement a hard no contact rule. Stop talking to her, delete texts from her, and don't look her up on social media. I understand it's hard because I had a hard time doing this last year, but if I did, I would've recovered a lot more quickly. At the same time, focus on yourself. Attraction isn't a choice, but making yourself more attractive is. Gain strength and confidence by hitting the gym, meditating, and generally just doing shit that makes you proud of …
/r/seduction26/04/20 11:35 AM
4

This should be fairly simple and obvious. If a woman puts her body (even if it's just photos) on a public market for purchase, she is going to be treated like a sex object/prostitute and quality men will generally avoid her. You can't have everything in life and in some ways it's a zero sum game.
/r/MGTOW26/04/20 10:23 AM
4

Truth is illegal.
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 10:49 AM
5

And so online dating becomes REALLY focused on only one aspect of the other person. It is true the other way too. It isn't. Average looking women get tons of attention too so there is no symmetry.
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 10:37 AM
2

What do tall CEOs have to do with men being attractive to women? Unless you mean that they are attractive to women only on account of being CEOs and not being tall? That's a very materialistic assumption. Are you saying that tall men who aren't CEOs don't attract women more than short guys? Thats patently false, of course. Comparing fat women to short men is apples to oranges because fat people can slim down with a little bit of effort while no amount of dedication can make someone grow taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:21 AM
4

The point is that things like a woman's career are mostly irrelevant to men. They may still be shallow for focusing on looks, but they are definitely not materialistic. Also, there is a very low barrier of entry for women when it comes to looks. It's basically don't be old and don't be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:32 AM
2

You can sum the difference in a few sentences really. A woman can be persuaded that she is attracted to a man if many other women claim to be attracted and/or if other men fear him. A man actually has to be attracted to a particular person, society's opinion be damned. Women love the prestige a man brings (which can easily shift onto another person) whereas men get hung up on one particular woman (the dreaded but very real one-itis).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:27 AM
11

Yeah, it does look like it on closer inspection, but it still refers to a false allegation, which is defined as having been proven rather than the accused just being found not guilty.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 07:22 PM
16

The article is incorrect in stating that. The bill says: (a) A person commits the crime of making a false sexual allegation if: ... (2) He or she willfully, knowingly, and with malicious intent, makes a false report ... and whose allegations are proven to be false. ... b) A person making a false sexual allegation may be 10 liable to the person accused for all costs associated with his 11 or her legal defense. The latter point (b) ) is a subsection of ((a)) so b) applies ONLY if a person was prov…
/r/MensRights23/04/20 06:28 PM
22

Lesson that should be learned from this: always have an email trail to corroborate your story.
/r/MGTOW23/04/20 05:31 PM
4

Ummm, does anyone want to be treated by a doctor with this mindset? Should she even have a medical license?
/r/MGTOW23/04/20 05:29 PM
3

Scandinavia is a low diversity, high trust culture which depends on people following the norms to make it work. Now that they have opened up the gates to their countries, or at least Sweden has, crime is quickly on the rise. You can have a quasi socialist system in place and be successful, but it requires a highly productive, homogenous society with few cheaters and parasites.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:40 AM
1

Women have the right to do whatever they want, but they don't have the right to demand respect in every instance. Neither do men of course, but the difference is that society generally comes down hard on men whereas it invents every excuse under the sun for women's bad behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:47 AM
4

Well, as you can see, the reality is the opposite of what media portrays and what so many men and women have been indoctrinated into over the course of their lives. You shouldn't apologize on behalf of others though. It's nobody's place to do that as everyone is responsible only for themselves. The important thing that men are starting to realize (finally) is that they can enjoy the romance they crave all they want, but knowing that women don't love them in the same way they love women will inev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:17 AM
1

Men are more extreme and more variable in just about every aspect so it's not limited to sexual kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:15 PM
2

Nope, she is wrong. Skepticism is the way to go with ALL allegations. "Believe all women" is a retarded, Soviet-style approach designed for easy character assassination.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:56 AM
1

Leave me in hopes of finding something better, then crawl back when reality hits they are a 5/10 and I was the only girl giving them attention. So wait, wait. You are the only woman in the world who agrees to go out with those guys? How likely is it that they didn't find out before that there is only one woman in the world who will give them the time of day? Don't you think it would have come up in the course of their lives? Also, isn't it a severe indictment on women if average men can only cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:09 PM
0

- don't have sex if you don't want to get pregnant - don't wear revealing clothes if you don't want to get cat called - don't get drunk at parties if you don't want to get raped
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:17 PM
11

There is a simple answer: emotional baggage. People who had a lot of relationships, and with that a lot of bad experiences along the way, cannot form fresh attachments in the same way as when they were younger and, let's say, more innocent about the world. There is a weariness and jadedness that accompanies plentiful relationship experience, which isn't entirely a bad thing from certain perspectives, but when men look for women, they tend to be more attracted to those who are ingenues or at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:58 PM
1

endwhile enddo endif Had to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:33 PM
1

Every divorce lawyer has ready made stories of abuse for his clients to memorize and use in the proceedings. That's a standard part of the process now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:45 AM
1

Why not? A pregnancy test can be positive. So can an STD test...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:09 AM
9

You now have a fairly unique experience of getting treated by women as a high status man (in Thailand) and a low status man (in the West). In both cases you were, of course, the exact same person. Women don't love men as people, they love the status. Always remember that and the world will make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:48 AM
3

It's mostly beside the point. There have been relatively few matriarchal societies because they lost competition and got wiped out/absorbed by patriarchal ones. As for benevolent treatment of males, I don't think conclusions can be drawn based on this tiny, limited sample. Biologically, males are far more disposable, so in any society there will be tendency to care about men less than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 08:39 AM
9

Not comparable. Most men don't care about a woman's financial status. As long as she doesn't come 200K in debt with seven kids in tow, it doesn't matter. Intimidation isn't really the issue, lack of interest is. As for companies not wanting to hire overqualified people - if you can be overqualified for some position, it probably does not require a particularly extensive skill set and it can be readily filled by a high number of applicants so there is no need to break the bank for someone with lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:15 PM
1

Relevant Simpsons: https://youtu.be/-1hbp8ZnXSE?t=58
/r/MensRights08/04/20 05:27 AM
11

This is the perception women have. Only men at the very top are visible to them while the rest are worker ants that are synonymous with machines operating somewhere in the background. This myopic viewpoint is why they think that men are privileged.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 06:12 AM
3

While some of this is true, I don't think you got the meme.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 06:10 AM
1

Well, 78% claim to be men, plus another 15% who claim to be women for attention or lols.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:51 PM
1

Mating is a biological necessity. You don't need to pick up a snake.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 07:00 PM
1

The more common story is man loses his job then spends 6 months drinking, watching tv/playing video games while also not stepping up household contribution. The most common scenario is that a guy tries to get another job, but it may not be immediately possible or in the event of a bankruptcy, there is a very good chance of a lengthy drop in material prosperity. That's the most dangerous time for a relationship. Most divorces (70%) are initiated by women at all times, but that figure is certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:04 PM
2

Why is it wrong for women to want you to continue to be successful, and why would you expect a woman who is relying on you as a provider (presumably) to treat you the same when you fail to do your part? I am not saying that it's "wrong" necessarily. I am just saying that that is reality. That a man's standing with a woman is related to his status and not so much who he is as a person. Society keeps teaching men that it's the opposite and does men a great disservice, which they pay for dearly. Fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:56 AM
10

Umm. Women aren't obligated to sleep with you. We aren't obligated to fuck you or any other man. We don't have to choose you, and most beautiful women know they've got options. The ones who don't yet know they have options figure it out quickly. Why do women keep repeating this triviality that no one is obligated to sleep with you? Do you think there is a normal adult walking around out there thinking upon reading it: Gee wiz, I never knew that!!? I'm not going to sugar coat it. Most women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:32 AM
12

You just perfectly illustrated that women are opportunistic gold diggers who feel no real attachment to men other than how they can benefit from their presence. You never loved your partner who were doing all these things for you and simply have no concept of what actual love is. It does not consist of enjoying the perks and extorting monetary and emotional tolls in exchange for fake tokens of intimacy, attachment and loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:44 AM
9

Evolutionary adaptation as usual. Women have guaranteed parentage of children they give birth to whereas men can never be certain (in a natural environment) unless they have exclusive access to a woman. So a woman doesn't care all that much who is the father of her children as long as there is a man who sticks around to raise them, even if that man is not exclusively hers. For a man, though, investing resources only makes sense if he can be certain that his partner's children are his.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 12:51 PM
2

That men are a bunch of animals that need to trained to not fuck and kill everything that moves. At least you are honest in your thoughts. I would not dare to ask for anything more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:00 PM
2

I was very generous in assuming that half of young women would not be interested in "creepy" older men, even when it benefits them. In reality, it's far more lopsided in the direction of where these women materially benefit. Let's lay the "radfem" position out so we can analyze it while we are at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:40 PM
2

Most is not 99%, it could be 51. That being said, pragmatic analysis says that young women do have a tendency to get with other young men for purely sexual relationships, and with older men for long term associations. This only makes sense. It implies that these women know basic arithmetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:25 PM
3

I said "most" not "all", but let's consider those who do feel that way. They are basically laying wagers on a horse who has already won the race. Sure, you can bet on a rowdy young buck who shows a lot of potential, and fresh sexual appeal, but why do that when you have proven winners already lined up and ready to do your bidding?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 06:59 PM
1

Teen girls and older men have no natural social overlap on the surface. When it does happen, it's almost inevitably because all men lust after younger women, and most young women want resources that older men can provide. This is precisely my point. The two groups that should be completely disparate are brought together by sexual dynamics on the part of men, and pragmatic welfare dynamics on the part of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 06:45 PM
2

Men aren't simps about many things, but sex is often an Achilles heel. Some grow out of it eventually, many don't. It's lucky for women that men are so invested in getting some as otherwise women would have really tough lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 06:14 PM
6

Common sense and life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:45 PM
11

Men agreeing with you is the same "simp" behaviour as in the OP, just in a slightly different context. Also, as the old proverb says, watch what people do, not what they say. Where rubber meets the road, a lot of men would take considerable risks to obtain sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:13 PM
2

Lol, the OP didn't have any high expectations. Just basic principles of a civilized society, which are not arbitrary when taken in context of the present day. It's not the norm to be an ignorant slob with no manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 02:34 PM
6

The only reason that relatively average women can sleep with high value men is that the latter sleep with many women and commit to only one or none. So women choose to live in a harem in exchange for access to a high value man and the low chance that he might commit over having a lower value man who is likely to commit. Biology at work. When the menopausal clock starts ticking, women usually recalibrate and go after men more likely to agree to an exclusive relationship and resource transfer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:30 PM
3

There is no point in talking to you. You are debating a fictional adversary inside your mind. As much as I hesitate to recommend therapy because most of it is hogwash, you really need some meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:53 AM
2

You make absolutely no sense. Men reducing their dependency on women to provide sexual release does not equate to being socially inept. Women don't care much about men's issues and this is separate from male-female sexual relations. An empathetic human being cares about everyone, not just those who can be useful. Literally no one is demanding that women fix anything. This thought appeared only in your disorganized mind and you created a suitable straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:15 AM
5

Same reason why so many women oppose prostitution even though most don't partake in it. It gives men access to (relatively) cheap sex without commitment therefore removing women out of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 05:51 AM
0

What's funny is that in this case feminists are right for the wrong reason. They correctly identify trans women as men due to their XY chromosome biology, but the root of their stance is really just a paranoid and obsessive hatred of Men, not common sense.
/r/MensRights15/03/20 05:20 AM
17

Most of the above is not entirely accurate, but where did you get this: Most states don't have alimony and it's rare as fuck in the ones that do. Prenups are also a thing. Every state has alimony laws and they are certainly not rare in being utilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:45 PM
2

Go to a rock concert then. There are thousands of women who throw their bras onto the stage. Thousands also are willing to be groupies wherever a popular band shows up. It's the norm, not some rare exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:47 AM
0

99% of people fall into broad patterns, and women are less variable than men. Exception cases can be ignored for most intents and purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:02 AM
0

Women find high status men attractive and status can come in many forms. This is one of the reasons why serial killers on death row routinely receive offers of marriage and love letters. They have status because they inspire fear and fascinate. In a more mundane case, a frail and pale emo singer has it because thousands of people come to his concerts and he's widely recognized wherever he shows up. Men are attracted to women directly, whereas women's attraction is conditioned on a social proxy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:59 AM
-2

Now that's some nice delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:45 AM
3

Set up a meeting with HR and invite someone senior to you from management (non-HR). In the meeting state that you stand by your review because it is a fair reflection of her performance, but if HR does not accept it, then you will ask the other person from management to designate a reviewer for her. It will then be that person's name on the review. Either the new review will also be poor, or it will be biased to appease and it will blow up in their face soon enough.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 06:31 AM
0

It is nature. If you look at past societies, and even many primitive ones today, poligamy is the norm where high status men have many wives whereas other men have none. And women are ok with it as a shared high value mate is more beneficial to them and their offspring than an exclusive low value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 04:59 AM
45

The judge's first question: mr Depp, have you stopped beating your wife yet?
/r/MensRights26/02/20 08:56 PM
3

Come on people, she is the victim in all this. /s
/r/MensRights20/02/20 05:49 AM
-2

Men will put their dicks in anything- even men on this sub admit to that. When a woman gets all of this interest from men, why wouldn’t she choose the best? How is it that women still don't understand that men will sleep with any semi-attractive woman that crosses their path, but they will not commit easily? You can't choose "the best", they are way out of your reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:34 PM
5

Slaves make society function but they don't run it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 05:51 AM
14

Now there's a way to set women back a few decades. Some will be tacked-on to boards of directors, none will ever be taken seriously.
/r/MensRights05/02/20 08:38 PM
0

If it's consistently men who lose interest in you and your friends then that suggests you are picking very high value men who have tons of options. They are the men who nearly all women are fighting over so of course they are not very likely to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 08:18 PM
13

And do you know how much he was paying her? My bet would be: a whopper.
/r/seduction02/02/20 06:53 PM
1

Well, for one thing you might have children of your own, and if not then family and friends. So yes, with age leaving behind a positive legacy becomes more important. Add to that that living in a stable society is much more pleasant once you get youthful rebellion out of your system.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:41 PM
1

There is something unethical in taking the money in a non-pretend way though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:41 PM
1

It would be fine if it was done with monopoly money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:38 PM
5

"Muh society won't last as long" Like, what? Who fucking cares? Every society has a time limit. It all likelihood you will think about it differently in the future. Most people start appreciating social stability around the time they hit mid-30's. Not everyone, but most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 10:33 AM
1

For actual patriarchy you need to look no further than to Muslim majority countries where polygamy is still legal. In those countries low quality men have no access to women as they are monopolized by the more influential men who take multiple wives. This is one of the reasons why women there are subjugated and why many young men turn towards radicalism. The West has never been a true patriarchy and it is certainly far from being one today. Arguably women have more privileges than men at this po…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:17 PM
0

Except there is no lofty end goal in this. Just mundane sadistic pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:54 AM
3

Why would you find that satisfying? That's rather an indication of a sick mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:10 AM
4

It's a trap. You get arrested by feminist Gestapo as soon as you enter.
/r/MensRights31/01/20 05:10 AM
0

No one said it's smart...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:00 PM
-1

Conviction that all men are abusers and rapists. Some just haven't done it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:14 PM
2

Authoritarians can never stop themselves from censoring speech. The craving is worse than a dope fiends lust for heroin.
/r/MensRights27/01/20 06:25 PM
1

The difference is that men get attached to women (usually attracted by looks) irrespective of who they are in society whereas women are primarily attracted by a man's status. So if he loses status or perception thereof, there also goes the attachment. This is just rooted in biology, no one is to blame for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:19 PM
1

That doesn't follow in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:11 PM
1

A child is immature which is why minors don't have full rights and responsibilities. Adults do, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:08 PM
3

What you said is far worse. Promoting the idea that people are not responsible for their actions is precisely what leads to more victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:05 PM
2

What I said is how it is. Feel free to ignore it and be eternally confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:59 PM
2

One comment about rape not being a victims fault. Of course it's not. It's not the rape itself that the victim is to blame for, but for putting oneself in a vulnerable position. This applies for example, when a woman gets drunk at a party full of men while being there alone. If you want to understand men's perspective in situations like that, it's best to use an analogy less triggering emotionally than rape. If some guy ventures into a bad part of town despite knowing its reputation, and gets ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:56 PM
1

Married. My wife is put off by weak effeminate men and rabidly feminist women so she is naturally not a big fan of modern society. She is successful in her career, but likes to act and be feminine. One doesn't negate the other.
/r/MensRights26/01/20 02:44 PM
10

This is true. Add to that the fact that we are now exposed to many many more people of the opposite sex than at any time in the past due to vastly more efficient transport and communication technologies. Given that men find a much higher percentage of women attractive than women do men, it further increases the imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:18 PM
18

Still not better. Find a better metaphor. First of all, I am not the one who uses it, second of all, you were completely wrong about men equating divorce with rape and you have yet to own up to it. When?! lol . The only times I hear about the draft is some misogynist demanding women have less rights. That's because you hear only what you want. This is very evident from reading this very thread. Blue balls IS NOT a real issue. Go get a hooker. Problem solved. I stated in my earlier post, to which…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:34 AM
27

So what I said with extra steps: Men thinking their problems are of that of rape victims. "Rape" is a metaphor here, not literal rape. How about men fight to get rid of the draft more , then? Jesus Christ, do you guys expect women to fight ALL your battles? They do, but men's issues are deemed irrelevant (you are a case in point) and politicians are afraid to champion men's rights at the risk of it being unpopular. Women lobbying for change of selective service rules would actually have more wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:13 AM
60

These are strawman arguments that don't apply to any significant subset of men. Comparing blue balls to child abuse? Perhaps you found that in some troll post, if at all. Same with divorce = rape. No one says that. There is a term in circulation of "divorce rape", but that refers to exploitation of divorce laws for financial benefit and also retaliation against former spouse (typically a man since men face an uphill battle in court divorce proceedings). Selective service registration is a no-bra…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:55 AM
2

The vast majority of naturally good looking, well off, charismatic guys I know (a) had no trouble hooking up with women throughout high school and young adulthood (b) had no trouble finding happy long term relationships and marraiges whenever they were ready to settle down (c) are still in healthy, lasting relationships and enjoying family life and fatherhood Ok, so guys who have every natural advantage tend to do good with women. That's 10-20% of men. Clearly everyone else is going to go throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:05 PM
1

I am kicking myself for not saying anything both times but the next time I see her I’m going to talk to her because I feel like that the eye contact and a smile is more than someone being nice to a passing person, but I could be wrong. Just praying she doesn’t have a boyfriend or something lol. I can tell you right now that if she is as attractive as you say, she does indeed have a boyfriend and a few orbiters on top of that. Your cause is not lost though because she is on the lookout to trade u…
/r/seduction23/01/20 07:10 PM
1

Lack of contentment with the good things in life is a sign of internal emptiness. When one is not capable of self-entertainment, either through thought or pursuing interests/passions/hobbies, the tendency is to expect others to provide that and constantly craving more, like a drug addict aching for another shot.
/r/MGTOW22/01/20 08:11 PM
4

UK is so cucked it should just paint a vagina over its flag.
/r/MensRights22/01/20 06:13 PM
2

Yes, I had to laugh at the statement that human mating behaviour 'should' be a certain way. But that's the issue with most psychology. It's so far from being a science that it can only be used for amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:30 AM
9

Hmm, when a murderer is leading your ideological rally, it might be time for some introspection.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 08:35 AM
4

It's always a trade-off. Unchecked individual freedom usually brings more happiness in the short term and less happiness in the long run. Of course it's all a matter of degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:59 AM
15

The analysis of the root causes is accurate. Ironically more personal freedom can have unintended negative consequences and women's rising income diminishes the pool of "viable" male partners. Men and women are sexless for different reasons though. Men cannot find partners period, whereas women cannot find partners who would be high status enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:15 AM
8

False equivalence. Perhaps 0.001% of men are murderers. When you talk about women attracted to 'dark' traits, it could be 70-80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:33 PM
5

It's weird how glibly damage caused to men is treated. Being lied to for years or decades about such fundamental things as ability to find a mate/life partner and then POOF it's supposed to vanish overnight because a man realized the truth or at least got closer to It? Of course there is lasting anger and frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:29 PM
3

"It felt like" he hit her. With rare exceptions, society teaches women, from a young age, that their subjective reality is what matters. No wonder they internalize it so deeply.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 07:24 PM
3

The guy is an idiot, obviously, but what's also interesting is that he doesn't see the moral turpitude of a woman accepting going on such an expensive date and not covering half the cost (at least given that she didn't want to continue the relationship).
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 02:52 PM
1

It's one of the few socially acceptable ways of bullying and harassing so of course lots of good folks jump on the bandwagon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:57 AM
20

While that should be the case, they don't wanna follow through on that because "Real rape victims would be less inclined to speak out." And that right there is the problem. Plenty of people are victims of crime and it's never easy to report it as there may be fear of reprisals, necessity to be grilled by the police, and various other unpleasant factors. Nonetheless, it's an important civic duty to report crime, particularly of a serious kind. A rape victim who doesn't report is endangering welfa…
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 07:46 AM
2

I don't think the OP meant that men should judge all of their value based on how women perceive them. That's the PUA way of thinking, which seems to be on the decline, but while it lasted, it was one of the cringiest, mangina-ish fads ever invented. Men who self-proclaimed themselves as "alphas" devoted all of their waking hours to pandering to women. Mass delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:54 PM
5

Hard evidence should absolutely be required for convictions. That's a big problem right now that people get convicted of rape over dubious situations such as retroactive revoke of consent. That being said, leniency for false accusers should apply only if they recant early and do so publicly. If someone gets convicted and then it turns out to be false, then the punishment should really be life in prison. Destroyed life for a destroyed life as even a person cleared after rape conviction is forever…
/r/MensRights09/01/20 11:30 AM
1

This part of the marital custom of coverture conferred protections, entitlements and immunities on wives, and placed full financial accountability on the husband. No taxes were owe-able in her name, so she was never held liable if the taxes were not paid. She was entitled to be supported by her husband to the best of his ability. She was legally empowered to purchase goods on his credit as his legal agent. If the family went into debt, only he was vulnerable to being put in debtor's prison. If a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:21 PM
7

no one has had the courage to put their name behind a case against this obvious bigotry. This is probably the case. Someone needs to step up like Jordan Peterson did with the forced pronouns debacle.
/r/MensRights07/01/20 06:36 PM
10

I don't quite understand it either. Is that a law in Cyprus? Because the UK sure as hell publicizes names of convicted adults.
/r/MensRights07/01/20 04:16 PM
3

I don't. I just figured that's what would happen given current reality of how much more leniently the justice system deals with women.
/r/MensRights07/01/20 04:13 PM
8

Covington video was important. If it didn't exist then that incident would constantly be cited as another example of "alt-right terrorism". At least the video shut idiots up.
/r/MensRights07/01/20 04:09 PM
1

She did spend a month in jail. I called it when she was convicted that she would get a suspended sentence and no more jail time. Nobody in Cyprus wants to deal with this crap.
/r/MensRights07/01/20 04:05 PM
4

Are therapists finally starving? About time...
/r/seduction30/12/19 07:36 PM
1

She spent a month in jail prior to being bailed out. I doubt that she's get anymore time. Probably a suspended sentence and they'll deport her out of the country ASAP so as not to deal with the problem any longer.
/r/MensRights30/12/19 05:06 PM
8

The woman reacted angrily after the judge announced he would pass sentence on January 7. 'Why do I have to wait. He's found me guilty,' she said. "OMG, I have to wait like a week, like WTF judge??" Delusion level 99.
/r/MensRights30/12/19 12:40 PM
33

Another shitstain on humanity is rewarded for destroying lives.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 10:53 AM
2

Well, that's it. Yang loses by disqualification.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 07:43 AM
9

This is pretty much how it works. Unfortunately it also breaks down the whole "seduction as an art" concept at inception because things come down to: if she's attracted, saying anything (non-crazy) will work, if she's not, then it won't.
/r/seduction28/12/19 07:20 AM
13

Hehe, good one!
/r/MensRights27/12/19 04:25 PM
3

Did you hang out together before?
/r/seduction27/12/19 01:43 PM
8

Of course that's what they do. However, if they reported, for example, "some say that women should be subservient to their husbands", it would be framed in a way where it's clear they denounce the view. Here it's just business as usual. Yeah, some say we should be sexist against white men. No biggie, carry on.
/r/MensRights24/12/19 02:05 PM
3

Here's the link for anyone who cares to check: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50872107
/r/MensRights24/12/19 01:31 PM
5

Holy crap. I almost thought that this is some photoshop. Nope, real BBC News article. Grab screen prints, save the text.
/r/MensRights24/12/19 01:27 PM
8

What kind of poverty are we talking about? As long as children have enough to eat and clothes on their back, the amount of money their family has is of little relevance. There aren't very many children in the Western world who don't have the basic necessities at a level that would stunt their growth. The issue is that a lack of a father figure has a very measurable effect in outcomes independent of monetary status.
/r/MGTOW08/12/19 05:40 AM
9

... and there is nothing wrong with that. Problem is only when we pretend that that isn't the case. There is of course an issue in that for high-achieving women. They only want men who are as high-achieving or, better yet, more successful. Men on the other hand are looking primarily for physical beauty and femininity. So if a woman is a 1%-er in terms of income, she had better be among the top 1% looks wise. If not, then her choices are: No husband, or A husband whom she sees as beneath her
/r/MensRights01/12/19 11:36 AM
1

I don't know, I never really cared about number of women I sleep with. I am married, but even when I was single, I just wanted to be with one good woman rather than 100 strangers. I guess it's just not my thing. I don't think sleeping around makes anybody happy though. There may be some superficial fun in it, but nothing lasting, nothing that matters in the long run.
/r/seduction29/11/19 04:38 PM
-2

This pretty much goes to show that cold approaching is weird as hell. Honestly, do you not have any kind of social network that could properly introduce you to single girls? If the answer is no, then you need to get one, as that is the main roadblock for you.
/r/seduction29/11/19 08:51 AM
6

That's not going to happen and in the meantime you are paying for their upkeep out of your taxes.
/r/MensRights25/11/19 06:14 PM
20

but she said she feels locked out of the employment market altogether. Good. That's actually not good. No one benefits when people willing to work are not able to. With certain exceptions for volatile professions, criminals who have done their time should be able to return to work unobstructed.
/r/MensRights25/11/19 05:30 PM
1

Do a thought experiment. Imagine a poster ad for a cushy white collar job with a sign that says: "we encourage white people to apply!"
/r/MensRights13/11/19 06:20 AM
26

Don't even have to wear a dress. Just show up as yourself. I mean what are they going to do? Presumably they called on account of skills in the resume and not form of genitalia. If they say otherwise, you can sue for discrimination.
/r/MensRights01/11/19 03:13 PM
5

She takes responsibility like a champ. A real role model.
/r/MensRights01/11/19 10:09 AM
83

The teenage girl later described how her school work had suffered, she was unable to sit her mock exams and said the unwanted touching had hindered her application process to Oxford University. Here's the thing. I can believe that she got scared in the moment if she was approached out of the blue and an awkward interaction followed. Slightly scared. The rest of it, her studies and university application stuff, is just her lazy ass making up an excuse for why she didn't do any work. Congratulatio…
/r/MensRights24/10/19 06:05 PM
2

There are legitimate instances where this law should apply. Such as losing a job at anytime during marriage. That's rape. Should have disclosed future unemployment status.
/r/MGTOW23/10/19 08:00 PM
6

Traditional marriage is good for social stability, but only when both men and women are held accountable for their actions. Women have been absolved of any responsibility for a couple of generations now, which is why the traditional model of family is disintegrating. I am happily married, but I appreciate that that's a rare thing these days.
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 08:50 AM
1

If it was indeed a "shit-test" I definitely failed it, lol. Why do you think you failed? Ignoring the question, as you mentioned doing, would not be a failure.
/r/seduction10/10/19 06:03 PM
1

It comes from the pick-up-artist (PUA) vocabulary to describe female behavior where a woman throws a negative statement at a man to see if he is able to deal with it in a way that implies that he is strong and resourceful (therefore a good prospective mate).
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:55 PM
1

It could have been a completely random thing, or the so-called "shit-test", or your manners are effeminate and she took a wild shot. No way to tell.
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:46 PM
1

Do you think she thought you were gay?
/r/seduction10/10/19 05:26 PM
1

Too big for what? Are 34 year olds attracted to 19 year olds? Certainly. Is such a relationship likely to incur the wrath of judgmental assholes? You bet.
/r/seduction07/10/19 05:56 PM
16

Even simpler, she will say that he pressured her into sex in exchange for getting a job.
/r/MGTOW14/09/19 08:35 AM
4

Not her necessarily, but others will take notice. It's a precedent (if one was still needed).
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 06:30 AM
3

But she still wanna be friends! I don't see her that often, we just spoke alot over WhatsApp, like spending atleast 3 or 4 hrs a day, what should I do, get friendzoned or cut it totally off? You are a textbook definition of an emotional tampon. Of course you should cut contact.
/r/seduction13/09/19 04:56 AM
17

Aside from OP's sarcasm, people (ok, only men) do it because it gives them a sliver of a personal connection that they so desperately crave. Even if it just comes down to handing over money and maybe getting a 'thank-you' email. That's how starved they are.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 06:49 PM
25

Also the fashion world where male designers are mostly gay and they like their models to look like stick-figure teen boys.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 06:12 AM
10

"Don't watch it" is the soft expression of Cancel Cultue power. Vice was smart enough to understand that calling for it to be removed from Netflix would only feed into the backlash. So the SJW fascists are now saying "don't watch it". This is a tactical loss for the SJW's. Months ago, they would have been calling for Netflix to remove it. If Chappelle was white, then sure as hell the SJWs would be calling for its removal. And they would probably get their way too. So not sure how much of a loss …
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 06:10 PM
24

Very nicely summed up. Indeed, OP can just go ahead and ask the girl out. I always say this, and you did as well, that you don't have to be perfect in relations with women. If they are attracted, they are attracted. If not, tough luck. Reading the story, it seems that the girl was interested at one point, while OP did not make a move, and now she has moved on. Perhaps found another prospect to focus her attention. It still doesn't hurt to ask her out and get closure on the matter. It's easier sa…
/r/seduction11/08/19 01:57 PM
10

Politics has replaced religion in function. Ideologies are easily interchangeable. Details are not important, the feeling of fighting for a cause is what gives them strength.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 07:11 PM
5

Yeah, white men as a whole still pretty much do as they always did, but the lower class whites not so much. They were pretty well off until recently, historically speaking. Well, not exactly. Only a small minority was well off throughout history. There was a relatively brief period (2-3 generations) when middle class American and some European families could live comfortably on a single blue collar income. That didn't last though and now middle class is feeling the pinch. Two incomes, college de…
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 07:08 PM
7

Really I think the point is having men be too feminine (Edward Norton end of spectrum) or too masculine (durden end) are both wrong and that a real man uses whichever end benefits him at that moment and sets him up for most success later. My take on it is that a sick society leads to proliferation of such extremes. Disenfranchised men usually veer towards radical ideologies, hence Muslims flocking to Isis and mass shooters in the West.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 07:05 PM
2

Although I'm guessing this is just a feminist fake post, like the thousands of others they do. It occurred to me as well. I just don't think a feminist would write that she was stoned during the intercourse in question. That would be a bit too slick.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 07:58 PM
2

Finally, it's what I've been saying for a long time now. Most psychologists are quacks unable to distinguish what is valuable in their field from their own biases and preoccupations. It doesn't help one bit that people treat them as some divine oracles who magically have all the answers. Our understanding of the human mind is rudimentary at this point and we have a long way to go. There are certain patterns of behavior we have found, and the knowledge of them can be put to good use, but it requi…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 10:53 AM
6

I am very offended at the #menare hashtag. Indeed the male existence is a triggering fact. Pay me some reparations for the psychological damage I just suffered.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 05:46 PM
1

"Tips and tricks" don't work because you have to engage your conscious mind in the interaction and building rapport is largely a game of non-verbal cues. You have to pick up on nuance that is best processed on an instinctual level. Thinking about whether something is a "shit test" gets you preoccupied and prevents natural reactions. I wasn't there so I am not sure what I would do, but I get the sense that I would stick around for a while, not necessarily "holding" her drink, but set it down some…
/r/seduction05/07/19 07:50 PM
18

It doesn't matter. She is done with him. Yes. At this point, she considers him a zero and he fills her with inexplicable disgust. It's a mechanism peculiar to women when they need to justify ending a relationship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/19 05:51 PM
34

She can express herself at a high-school level, but her biggest issue seems to be that she won't be getting driving lessons anymore rather than a person she cares about not being around anymore.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/06/19 04:22 PM
11

Oh, they did complain. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/11/football/uswnt-womens-world-cup-thailand-record-spt-intl/index.html
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 07:20 PM
8

Right, because there is some deep purpose in violent degenerates going after other degenerates while in prison. They simply want to feel like they are better than somebody, and also crave an outlet for the pent up aggression. They can't attack the guards who are equipped with weapons and can call backup, and other prisoners may have friends, so they zero in on one group that no one will defend.
/r/MGTOW30/05/19 05:18 PM
1

a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. Not in the eyes of school disciplinary boards, which are not obliged to follow legal evidence standards and consequently have none. That's one of the reasons why serious matters should never be investigated by people without credentials or competence to do the job.
/r/MGTOW16/05/19 07:37 PM
4

It's not the man that is loved, it's what he provides.
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 07:32 AM
20

The key omision (aka lie) is that if I decide to take care of a stray dog, I am under no illusion that it is my child and I don't begin caring for it and spending my time with it under false pretenses. It sucks for a kid to be abandoned, but it also sucks simply to find out that one's father is not the biological male parent. A firm stance on not raising cuckoo's nest children, plus mandatory paternity testing, would go a long way to reducing these unfortunate situations.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/19 02:49 PM
3

It sounds like you barely know this girl. You are not in love, just infatuated with the idea of her, which is probably not even accurate. Since the two of you will be parting ways as she is moving out, why not tell her you have feelings for her? You really have nothing to lose. She will most likely turn you down, but at least you will know and you can move on.
/r/seduction27/04/19 05:26 PM
2

"A feminist cafe and I am supposed to pay for my order? Fuck this shit!" - feminist patrons
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 10:26 AM
3

Seismographs around the world recorded a major ZING!! event at the time of the text.
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 07:12 AM
2

He's willing to discuss concepts he doesn't necessarily agree with and as part of that tries to see them from the perspective of his guests. That's actually an admirable quality.
/r/seduction22/04/19 08:51 AM
1

We don't know whether this was a beauty standard. More likely that it's a fertility symbol with the exaggerated belly and breasts. Venus de Milo is over 2000 years old and her physique is the same as modern standard of beauty. So the standard has probably never changed much.
/r/seduction22/04/19 08:50 AM
1

It's almost certainly fake and it shouldn't be pushed as a true story, which is unfortunate because as fiction it actually contains a lot of truth about modern relationships.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/19 05:40 AM
19

The story may very well be a fake, but it is a good reflection of the zeitgeist and the state of modern relationships. Good husband, good father, tried hard, and persevered. Where did that get him? The problem here is that the last couple generations of men were taught that they should be good fathers and husbands, but expect nothing in return as they are owed nothing by anyone, and especially not their wives. In this paradigm, husbands should not expect gratitude, respect, marital sex or even l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/19 05:38 AM
3

However even my parents are saying I am in the wrong, that I should not turn my back on my son. I don’t agree, it hurts but I think in 5 years I would have made the right choice. He's not your son so as painful as the realization was, you are not obligated to raise him. You still have time to find an honest woman and have kids of your own. You definitely did the right thing by divorcing.
/r/MGTOW13/04/19 04:37 PM
3

This is not too surprising. A lot of the delusion may be down to that poster's narcissistic personality, but there's no question that society as whole is doing a terrible disservice to women, and young, attractive women in particular. They often go through life without any accountability as their parents, teachers, boyfriends, and random strangers all cater to their whims. It breeds a sense of superiority of a very ugly variety where one's mere existence is the reason why everyone should celebra…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/19 09:23 AM
1

You don't have to do anything in the meantime. Confirm the day before that she is still going. There is a good chance she will flake so always be mentally ready for that.
/r/seduction01/04/19 09:45 AM
41

I am dubious about a lot of the PUA-style advice, but acting disinterested around attractive women works very well. I am in a LTR that I am happy with so when I come into contact with women, I often don't even turn my brain towards anything romantic/sexual. Ironically I noticed that this piques women's interest and the more attractive they are, the more they try to flirt with me. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense, given the amount of supplication and sycophantism they get from men.…
/r/seduction12/03/19 01:28 PM
1

It's definitely for the best. If you cut contact and move on, you will be surprised how quickly new things and new people will come into your life and fill the void.
/r/seduction06/03/19 07:30 PM
4

Drop the sanctimonious stuff. They are boyfriend/girlfriend, not married with children. Their relationship can end today with no lasting consequences. You owe no loyalty to her boyfriend if this girl prefers you over him. The only thing to avoid is duplicity. If she wants to be with you, then she has to immediately and unequivocally end things with her current boyfriend. If not, then you cut-off contact with her.
/r/seduction06/03/19 10:38 AM
1

He wasn't "gaming" per se, but it is an important insight. I have been in a relationship for several years now, so I am out of the pick-up/dating game, but I get plenty of signs of interest from women. Part of it could be because I am already with an attractive woman and that attracts others, but I think it's mostly because I talk to all kinds of people and they in turn talk to me as well. Women are put off by guys who appear at a social venue and zero in on only socializing with attractive wome…
/r/seduction26/02/19 10:02 AM
2

An attractive young woman who's focused on her career/studies, who maybe has some personal issues going on (poor and needs to work a lot/has a crazy schedule etc), who has high standards or wants specific stuff in a man, who is not settled down yet in a specific location (because of studies or internships etc)... can be single. Yeah usually she'll be getting a lot of attention. That's my point. It's a lot of conditions to check off, and on top of that attractive women get lots of attention. So f…
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:24 PM
1

It feels terrible to be dumped, but boyfriend/girlfriend is a transient relationship. I am simply advising the OP not to wait for a "perfect" situation because he could be stuck waiting for a very long time.
/r/seduction23/02/19 05:22 PM
37

But I've noticed on the flip side, women in their 20s who are attractive are almost never single. They either have an official relationship, or something going on on the side. You are not going to meet an attractive young woman who doesn't have a pack of men circling around her. Unless she is a paragon of chastity, she is probably in a relationship or something close to it, as you have observed. The solution is that you ask her out. It's her obligation to be loyal to her boyfriend, if she choose…
/r/seduction23/02/19 08:38 AM
3

The worst that can happen is that she is going to say "thank you, but I am not interested". You'll say "that's ok, no problem" and move on with life. Don't put too much pressure on yourself or too much stock in the situation. You will ask out many other girls in the future. Not to say that this particular lady won't say "yes", but don't get all invested in a situation that shouldn't be so stressful. Have fun with it and treat it as an adventure rather than a source of stress. Think about the fac…
/r/seduction22/02/19 06:30 PM
1

(I thought about calling her this afternoon and candidly/jokingly asking for a “do over” first date. Is this dumb?) Wait a day before calling her and don't bring up the previous date at all. Just ask her out again.
/r/seduction22/02/19 05:31 PM
5

I am fortunate enough to be in a steady relationship, but the dating scene for men is brutal these days. I tried to advise my younger, male cousin a couple of months ago, as to how to communicate with girls online. He had a profile on a dating website and essentially ticked all of the boxes. Good looking, intelligent, educated, successful... so he did get some attention. But my god.... all of the women that he messaged with were vapid beyond belief. They thought they were god's gift to men while…
/r/seduction06/02/19 06:19 PM
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