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Men are judging woman's long-term dating/marriage compatibility (what you called worth). Women are judging women's short term dating/hookup compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:16 PM
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Can you imagine - "baby, your rack doesn't do it for me. I need you to massage my balls as I fuck this sex doll with big tits"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:03 PM
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We do police them ... we've set up police forces and courts of law to deal with it. You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:56 PM
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I agree. I remember when I was on active duty. Before we deployed to the sandbox, we all chipped in to make sure the younger guys who were virgins got laid, if you understand what I'm saying. Best beleive none of them told their now wives and that's probably for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:09 PM
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I think what we're open to is reality and accountability. I've dated some really average looking women and a couple models. Even the average looking women I've dated had something about them that I found attractive - here hair, eyes, smile, other physical assets - even if she was average overall. The reality is, the quality of the relationship and the quality of sex had very little to do with if she was average attractiveness or if she was a model. The accountability is that I make a choice on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:56 PM
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Not sure about sex, but having a family (or the implied deal of having one) is a HUGE motivation for socializing young men in terms of economic and military output. If you take that away, many young men will not be willing to produce in excess of their baseline needs (which limits the amount of tax revenue for social programs) and will likely not fight in a war to defend their country's interests - at least not in leiu of women fighting as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:40 PM
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Find a hard-working, morally upstanding man of integrity, slighly above average intelligence, phyically fit, even if he's just a tad boring, and build a life with him. There will always be a power imbalance if you date an older-well established man, it's like picking a winning team in the middle of the playoffs as opposed to pre-season. It's such an old concept that it goes back centuries - If you want to be an Admiral-s wife, you have to marry the ensign.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:59 AM
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You're mostly right on your other points but none of them refute my point that, en masse, women cannot take away men's rights. Men can loose their rights to other men, that's why we have the 2A. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants". In my mind, that goes all round, but I really dont want to see us get to that point. As for me, I'm fine dying instead of having to do more killing. I've done too much as it is 🤷‍♂️ (see username for referen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:44 AM
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Just to be clear, I think it's a horrible idea. But it is a realistic concern in a 100yr time frame. For context, women have only had the right to vote for about 105 years. It's not been that long really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:29 AM
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You've got minimal ability to enforce that. On the other hand, women only have rights because men allow it ... and I think women having rights is a good thing. But you have to remember that safe guarding and granting of rights can ultimately only be enforced through threat of a compelling degree of violence. Look at how well we have progressed with women's rights in the west, compared to countries between Afghanistan and Syria. I hope it never goes in that direction, but it's foolish to think it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:03 AM
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I hate to break it to you, but you're building a case to curtail women's equal rights. I don't think that's where we want to or should go, but I'm starting to hear grumbling of this and it makes me uncomfortable. This type of attitude will only feed that narrative. Edit - The one thing I noticed in your post is that you mentioned twice the need for men to provide provisioning. If that's your expectation, then you're again reinforcing gender roles, that when combined with far-right extremism & at…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:41 AM
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20 meal, lol. That's an appetizer at best
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:27 PM
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Partly, yes. But also many decent looking men aren't putting themselves out there or aren't trying very hard when it comes to grooming and style. As for the women overlooking average men, a huge part of this women believing a lot of lies they've been told in terms of what their options are in life which is driven in part by SM and a lesser emphasis on accountability & discipline by parents for young girls (see princess treatment).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:22 AM
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I've been on the other side of this, where my partner had a very high libido (1-3x day) whereas mine was about average (3-5x week). The reality is, we had to compromise. For us, what that meant was that I never turned her down for physical intimacy but for her, that meant that the form of this intimacy was dependent on what I was up for. That could mean a full session for 45+min, a quickie, me giving her oral, or me just holding & caressing her while she took care of things.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/25 11:43 PM
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This depends on your age and status. Young people who are still building should be more open to building with a partner. But there comes a point where you've made it on your own and built up a high salary (say more than 250k) at a young-enough age but haven't built up a high net worth yet (to the point where their investments make more than their salary). Strictly from an economics situation, people in that category should absolutely not get married to anyone who isn't bringing something approxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:07 PM
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This is very true, for everyone. I'm just trying to find a partner that I can respect, and it's NOT easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:43 PM
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I have to ask you if the responses were what you expected? As for me, there are non-negotiables and there are ideal traits. If she had all the non-negotiables and 80% of my ideal traits, I'd consider myself the luckiest man on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:56 PM
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You're asking for a logical explanation from men of an emotional response we commonly observe in women. I don't know that men are the right people to explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:40 PM
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Most rich people I know (from a couple mill up to a couple bill), don't usually prioritize looks past a certain point. The biggest differentiator tend to be behaviors, social skills, and intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:15 AM
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The've become a bit more common in NYC & DC in the past 2 years it seems. Mostly targeting mid-late 20s and 30s urban professionals
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:34 PM
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or it's the 1% expecting class specific sensibilities. This is so me right here. I grew up poor AF (think trailers and trailer parks in southern Appalachia) and am now in the 1%. It's taken a lot of hard work & discipline, but I can't stand a lot of ppl (women included) in my socio-economic strata. On the other hand, I can't deal with rachet folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:48 PM
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I'm just going to tell you straight up that the reason why I probably won't get remarried is because of divorce courts. I make between high 6 and very low 7 figures, depending on bonus and I'm in my early/mid 30s. The value of my labor is from the "compounding interest effect" of my prior effort and experience, not my current effort. Since any potential future wife was not with me through this journey, I'm not willing to agree that she deserves anything I'm currently making, it's a gift I'm will…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:57 PM
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Yikes. I can't go there. If he punched her lights out, I might be with you. But stabbing or worse, isn't a justified response. Although, it is a low-probability expected response.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:18 PM
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Some percentafe of young males will fight, injury, and even kill people who sufficiently offend them. This has been going on for millennium. I'm not excusing or justifying it, but this isn't a problem than can be fully solved. But they aren’t violently or violatively lashing out toward others like their boy peers are. They are, just not as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:04 PM
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I would certainly push back on anyone that says the stabbing was justified. Provoked, sure. Justified, absolutely not. And with the added content of the things he posted on Instagram of course she’s going to take it negatively. I completely missed this part of the movie. Do you recall which episode and roughly what portion this came to light so I can go back and watch it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:41 AM
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But he basically thought she was better than nothing From a man's perspective, this was what caught me off guard the most about that entire series. For better or worse, the narrative of "young boy kills someone that bullied him" left me with "yeah, this has been happening for centuries so what's new"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:36 AM
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We're not talking about dating the deadbeat father. Good men don't socially or professionally associate with a deadbeat father, that's as far as we can take it. It also seems like you're assuming he left the mother as opposed to the mother left him. You also seem to assume the mother holds space for the father in the children's lives (see comment above about deadbeat fathers), she doesn't abuse the legal system, or psychologically alienated the affection of the children to their father.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:37 PM
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She's probably right, I would also think he's gay. The level of broken you have to be to make this comment means you're not suitable to be a relationship. I pray you don't get married until you heal and if you're in a relationship, I feel sorry for your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:28 PM
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It's more about question of degree than yes/no. There is a huge difference between a man wanting a partner that appears able to have children and a man wanting a partner with natural & perky DD breasts and a "Instagram ass". Similarly, there a huge difference between a woman wanting a partner with decent career prospects vs a woman wanting a partner making a min of $200k and over 6ft tall. In both of the extreme cases, you could say "the man is looking for indication of fertility l and the woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:11 PM
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Sexual selection. For most straight men who are funny or got rich on without having family money, being attractive to women was likely a significant contributing factor, even if they're not fully aware of it. Same reason women tend to put a lot more work into their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:30 AM
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It's not a threat, but rather an appeal to common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:03 AM
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I've met some of the smartest and dumbest people in the Marines. The best way I can describe combat is like a live, human chess match. If you're stupid, you're gonna die much quicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:04 AM
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If you were smart, you'd be avoiding misandrist actions that perpetuate a misogynistic response, precisely because males are statistically more violent. Similarly, men would be wise to avoid misogynistic actions if they don't want hurt feelings. It's like that character in the show Adolescence. Some young boys are gonna fly off the handle and kill, be it with a knife or a gun. I'm not agreeing with the response, but I'm not at all shocked when things like that happen. Maybe I just grew up around…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:55 AM
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She was slightly chubby, though not fat, which from a looks-based perspective should have made her seem more attainable. There's a material difference bn saying "she's not my type" or "we're not compatible" vs "she's more attainable because she's chubby". Take it from a man who most likely has a couple of years more experience: the way you phrased this makes it come across like you're assigning worth to her as a human being based on her looks. That's only going to lead you to a shallow place in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:21 PM
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For me, it's more about vibes than just her looks. If a woman really piques my interest or curiosity, I may approach if the vibes are neutral. I used to do this somewhat frequently on the DC metro. Not as much on the subway here in NYC. If the vibes are poppin, I'm gonna shoot my shot but that doesn't happen as often as it did pre-covid
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:12 AM
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I don't know why you're arguing with me. do you think women should be sorry that sexual harassment in the workplace cooled down a bit so they could earn a living in peace? Absolutely not. I've publically dressed plenty of men down (subordinates, peers, and superiors) for even approaching that line. Exact words in a client meeting when a boss said something inappropriate "wtf is wrong with you". We got him fired, eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:58 PM
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This is exactly my concern. She's only adding more fuel to the dumpster fire, and I would expect better behavior from someone with a PhD that one of these idiots with a podcast (Tate, Fresh&Fit, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:59 PM
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Speaking as someone that works in high finance in NYC, the hours are brutal, especially if you're starting out. This can make it very difficult to have a well curated social life with the kind of people you want to be around.
/r/RedPillWomen13/04/25 04:09 PM
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The move to coed for colleges was a moral/policy/political decision because of their use of public funding. To me, this is a very strong rationale. However, I would have preferred we retained single-gender mens and womens colleges as a public option provided there was appropriate equality in public funding and of course, availability. I do understand that other groups -taking- a share from dominant culture can be uncomfortable for the dominant group. And to your point, it's the -taking- from oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:54 PM
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Social clubs, athletic clubs, country clubs. There were a series of laws passed and feminist social pressure from the 1920's through today to systematically destroy male safe spaces in the name of equality. See Rotary International, Boy Scouts, NYC Athletic Club, & Augusta National. What you'll find is the use of the terms "discrimination" and a need for "inclusivity" when it comes to dismantling men's spaces. Whereas the language used for justifying other people's safe spaces is "emotional safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:17 PM
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What you're describing sounds a lot like the culutre where I grew up. Thankfully, my family was an exception though. My only advice is to surround yourself with better people. Unfortunately for me, that meant I had to move and radically rethink what I prioritized in friends and partners. You'll still find shitty people no matter where you go though, the difference being the *degree** to which it's expected/tolerated/occurring nor if it occurs. *to give you an idea, my mother's aunt slept with he…
/r/RedPillWomen13/04/25 02:18 PM
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Women systematically destroyed or colonized male spaces last century. You can see the social effects in how u/askmen is operated (rules, moderator actions, etc) vs the women’s version is operated. Women have committed a lot of social and legal violence on men to ensure they remain centered. So to sit there as act confused about why women have such an impact on men's self-worth, when women destroyed any pathway for alternatives is shockingly ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:46 PM
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Yes, but like you both messed up really bad if she is cheating on you with an AI chatbot. Ftfy. Same thing for porn though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:46 PM
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I'd suggest reading Thomas Hobbes. If the social contract falls apart, you'll have a revolution at best and chaos at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:06 AM
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Both. If one partner is constantly complaining, they aren't picking their battles wisely and it becomes "the boy who cried wolf"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:46 PM
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If someone brings it up in a non-constructive manner, they can't be surprised if they don't get the desired outcome. "It's not what you say, it's how you say it"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:43 PM
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All I see here is an oblivious man and a woman with poor conflict resolution skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:59 PM
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While I agree that most straight men probably don't care enough about their partners experience, what's interesting to me is how so many straight women don't take ownership of their side of the issue. In contrast to straight women, it's been my experience that queer women are considerably more likely to take an active role in perusing their orgasm with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:01 AM
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I'm almost finished with the second episode. You got a teen boy that stabs and killed someone that was bullying him. These things have been going in for a long time now. What I never hear in these discussions is the responsibility of the victim's parents and the responsibility of the victim, of course in addition to the responsibility of the perp and their parents. When I was growing up, getting in fights was fairly common where I lived. We had a couple kids at school that would get picked on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:28 AM
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Don't really care what people beneath me think
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:26 AM
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You can try to twist it however you want - I'd never look at you as an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:06 AM
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He’s paying for the opportunity If she expects me to treat her like an equal, I need her to act like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:59 AM
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Yes, sometimes victims are irresponsible. That has no impact on the fact that the perpetrators are always at fault. 2 facts can be true at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:41 PM
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but think theyre wrong for avoiding a guy that shows aggressive behavior ? Huh? No, women should absolutely avoid a man who demonstrates insufficient self-control. There is almost no bigger of a red flag. You wanna blame women for being abused No. There's a difference between fault vs responsibility. I don't think anyone is saying women are at fault for being abused, but they are responsible for making sure they screen men to avoid those with insufficient self-control.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:12 PM
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In your example, the women made an error in judgment, despite good intentions. It's falacious to claim that her intentions to make a sound judgment absolve her of responsibility of making a sound judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:13 PM
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Usually, when I hear men say "pick better", it's in the context of telling women to learn what a deadbeat or an abuser or a reckless man looks like and not to pick them to father their children. And when I hear men say women's standards are too high, it's in the context of "Miss Very Average" having standards of "6ft2, $200k/yr, etc". I don't see those two things as contradictory at all. In fact, they're both urging women to select men based on morals, values, ethics, and other worthwhile qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:06 PM
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It's not really easy, as you're jailing the mother of a child and children need both their parents. That is a horrible justification. In this case, it would be no different than if the mother or father got a DUI. You broke a criminal law and you have to spend some time in jail. I agree it should be something like a weekend the first time, but it should escalate quickly from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:01 PM
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There's a really easy fix, make withholding access, when a court order is issued, a criminal offense instead of a civil offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:03 PM
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It entirely depends on the maturity of the people involved. I've been in relationships with a couple of women over 6ft and they didn't belittle me (pun intended) for being 2 inches shorter than them. There was one woman who was like .5 inches taller than me who thought it was OK. The second time she started ragging on me I broke it off and mentioned that I never brought up that I'm objectively better looking, certainly smarter, stronger, and make considerably more than her. But I was the bad guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:37 PM
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That's all the reason we need to ban abortion though "women don't need to have sex if they are worried about having a child". The fact that you don't see this as a problem IS the problem OP was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:43 PM
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Also needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:38 PM
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Any rudness is a near automatic no, for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:20 PM
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I'd challenge you on that point of intuition. I think there are tells that you subconsciously pickup on, that if you thought about it some more, you'd be able to articulate. You'd do young woman a huge favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:43 PM
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To each there own. My exwife was like this as well. I myself rarely get off from oral, but my God do I love going down on a woman's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:41 PM
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🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:56 PM
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You and u/OrganicAdd5450 need to write a book or a something for younger women on how to properly vet men. It amazes me how much people overlook because they find someone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:53 PM
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Thought about writing a book for younger women on how to avoid shitty men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:51 PM
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Tate has a decent point once in a while, I think he might hit a 0.01% average soon. 🤔 All jokes aside, it would concern me greatly if a nephew or someone I cared about was seriously listening to him. That's intervention time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:16 AM
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Most of us are prisoners of our own perspective, but from where I stand, it really looks like most women have an expectation of men doing all the work and taking on all the risk at the start of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:43 PM
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I do, it's rough for women these days, but I honestly thing it's more because of the bullshit you have to put up with from other women. Y'all are just plain cruel to each other and the fashion trends y'all push aren't doing the average woman any favors. It's like the movie "Mean Girls" became a lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:11 PM
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it’s still the societal expectation that men are the ones to ask women out I really think we need to be clear about whose expectations these are. The percentage of men who would have a problem with woman approaching them is VERY small, almost certainly less than 15% Comparatively, the percentage of women who would have a problem being expected to approach a man is north of 85%. This seems more like a "women's preferences" issue more than a "society" issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:00 PM
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One thing I've noticed is the general lack of empathy most women have for men. The idea that the average man may have it worse in some way really screws with y'alls emotions or something. Someone should write their PhD thesis on this. Edit: it looks like someone is writing about it https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-do-life/202004/the-gender-gap-in-empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 08:49 PM
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Yep. 100% what's going on 🫤. I wish people would be willing and able to tell these extremists to keep their mouths shut. Same feedback for the moderate right on how to deal with the far-right extremists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:08 PM
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I'm not saying it's ok, what I'm saying is that a lot of people simply stayed home and didn't vote in the last election, in large part because we're tired of progressives, intersectionality, and misandrist feminism. The points about abortion rights and other legitimate concerns largely fell on deaf ears. People who used to be politicaly willing to work with you will, at best, be ambivalent. And that's what happened in the last election. I hope you choose to compromise, build coalitions, and keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:37 PM
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Your entire framing is an us vs them instead of thinking about how to create balance and fairness. With that perspective, my point is you shouldn't be surprised when men don't care about additional attacks from the far right. I'm not saying I agree with the far right, I certainly don't. But don't be surprised when men don't care enough about your problems to lift a finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:22 PM
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What I worry about is that they way in which Feminists communicate reminds me a lot of what's happening to the Democrat party - they've alienated a good part of their political coalition and don't have the support needed when it comes to big issues ... like abortion rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:16 PM
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It's just that when men ask for understanding on a topic and they're met with female hostility, don't be surprised when men (especially young men) shrug when the far right comes along and starts curtailment more rights of women and lgbtq. This is exactly why the abortion issue has depressingly little impact on the last US election. It's not a good idea to alienate people that are inclined to help politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:05 PM
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It really is people like you that are fueling the authoritarian rise lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:39 PM
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What jobs are they getting instead that pay more for that effort? Law, medical, etc. A Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists makes about $205k on average, but I know a couple making into high 300's. Don't get me started on Doctors with in-demand specialties. On the other hand, a circuit Judge makes $250k. Where are women dominating where men aren’t in that sphere? I'm not sure why that's relevant. You asked it's not closer to 50/50 as opposed to 75/25 to 66/33. I'm still not sure that it needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:52 PM
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I haven't seen anything indicating it's more than choice/aptitude. I know a LOT of very intelligent, highly paid women that could do these jobs and choose not to because these jobs don't pay a lot compared to level of effort required. I honestly think women are better at maximizing their ROI on labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:41 PM
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Women makeup 33% of federal judges, 29% of Representatives, 26% of Senators, 27% of cabinet leads. I'm not aware of any current legal of cultural barriers for women to get into these positions. As far as I can tell, the differentiator are primarily choice and ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:23 PM
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Women don't need a man, broadly still show overwhelming preference for richer men. And your conclusion is "patriarchy" instead of "gold digger"? This is some Neo-level gymnastics to avoid accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:04 PM
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They are included. We have 3 branches of government in the US and women participate in all of them. To indirectly say "muh patriarchy" bc a woman hasn't been president only demonstrates an extreme lack of understanding of how the branches actually work. In the current case, the issue is that we have a borderline tyrant, not that he's a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:50 PM
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Wife vs gf comes down to if I think the relationship offsets the additional risks of marriage. The biggest issues tend to be her EQ and financial situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:15 PM
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I would sometimes hit on guys first, but it quickly turned into him taking the initiative after it. Yep, very similiar to women dropping their hankerchief
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:52 PM
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I am in a way. I only date women around my tax bracket, but only because of the courts. If it wasn't for the risks for men in family courts, I really wouldn't care as much. What I absolutely care about is her kindness, intelligence, integrity, and wisdom. Charisma and social status mean very little to me as long as she knows how to hold herself in public situations. Lastly, most higher education is worthless these days. Too many graduates can't write well or solve a problem or do basic math - I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:08 PM
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Because we deep down beleive some (?most?) of these women could have been good women if they received the proper guidance from society, their parents, and role models (and listened to them) I knew a lot of girls like that when I was younger, some from otherwise decent families, who could have been great wives & mothers in some alternate reality. Instead, they became babby-mammas, drug addicts, and prostitutes. It really hurts going back home sometimes, to see such lost potential. I guess that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:00 PM
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As long as you're willing to risk not getting married, feel free to have any standard you want. Just understand that most people marry within their socio-economic group. So if you're "standards" exceed what you're likely to be able to achieve, some mind suggest a more pragmatic approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:12 AM
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50-50 custody, no child support. I can possibly see exceptions if one parent was a SAHP, but in that case, it should be limited to the lesser of 3 years or when the child turns 18. I also beleive in alimony in the case of a SAHP, but that should be limited to 2 years. Being a SAHP is a luxury in 2025. Nobody is entitled to that after a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:06 PM
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A commitment wouldn't mean anything without temptation. So what you should care about is a partner's ability to stick with their commitments. There are all kinds of clues in a person's history about how conscientious they are. The problem I've seen over and over again is people not paying attention to these clues. My experience has been young women often conflate 'low conscientious' with 'exciting and 'high conscientious' with 'boring'. Men on the otherhand tend to think with the wrong head. Edi…
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/25 09:11 PM
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Yeah, that's one of the best reasons to use a straight-edge razor for the daily edge-up, do a weekly trim yourself, and every 2-3 weeks go to a barber that knows how to cut a beard. If the edge-up looks like shit, the beard is gonna look like shit. If you got split ends, the beard is gonna look like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:30 PM
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What, you can't get it done in a daily 15min timeslot? Daily 5-10 shaving with a straight razor for the edge-up, 5 min styling. Once a week doing my own trim and every 2-3 weeks going to a barber.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:28 PM
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I like beards in general but poorly trimmed ones look too much like pubes on your face. I'm gonna hold your hand when I tell you that they pretty much are pubes on the face. Most guys that had a well kempt beard are taking a lot of time to take care of it. I easily spend 15 min on it per day when I got into the office, between edging it with the razor and styling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:36 PM
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Why leer at a live woman who is clothed, unless you want to make her uncomfortable? I've been body building for over 15 years now and worked part time as a trainer at a large gym and we did a study on this. About 95% of the time a woman made a complaint of leering, it turned out to be unfounded. The majority of the time (60-something %), the cctv analysis showed he was simply looking in her direction. The remaining times, he looked at her for ~5 seconds or less and about 30% of those times remai…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 05:58 PM
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I wasn't alluding to cheating. I meant hobbies. Of course cheating doesn't count as "abiding by their vows". What an odd thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 08:29 PM
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I think that women have a lower threshold of being able to stay in relationships that they are unhappy with. It’s also possible that maybe they are less likely to seek gratification elsewhere and instead focus on leaving the relationship that makes them unhappy. Yes, men will compartmentalize, suffer through it, seek happiness elsewhere, and abide by their vows. I strongly suspect that if men weren't as willing to suffer through unhappiness and abide by their vows, the rate of mem seeking divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:51 AM
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But somehow it is quite different, and not in a good way. That 'somehow" is the fact that in the past, the people with the loudest social voice were often the more respected people of the community and were expected to be wise. These days, it's a mob of idiots on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:37 PM
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wanting love as a part of marriage That's not what they said, they said it's not sufficient for marriage.
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/24 03:05 PM
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You are divorced though right? Automatically we don't see eye to eye on marriage because I think divorce is lazy We were both Marines and both deployed to Iraq. I was infantry, she was logistics. She became an alcoholic and killed our unborn child and still refused to get help. There's no forgiving that. Until you've experienced the amount of violence as I have, you'll never appreciate life in the same way. After you've taken a decent amount of lives, creating life fills a hole in you soul. To h…
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/24 02:53 PM
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The idea that your womb is the centerpiece of a marriage is what I was calling self-centered.
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/24 01:36 PM
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I can understand this when it's an issue of "no kids" vs "kid(s)", but when you already have 2 & that was part of the discussion before marriage, there's got to be something more there. The other option to meet in the middle is to just have half a kid.
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/24 04:30 AM
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I find that to be a very odd question because I wouldn't continue to date a woman if I didn't respect her or if she didn't respect me, let alone a long-term relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/24 01:27 AM
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who viewed me exclusively as a baby machine ...we are more than tits and a womb It's not even about you or your womb. That's about as self-centered as me saying the only reason women want get married is because of my penis. The purpose of marriage isn't about the woman or the man, it's to provide a stable environment to raise children. Without children in the picture, there's no reason to get the courts involved just to give their blessing for a long-term committed relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/24 11:28 PM
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I think your best bet is to try and understand why your husband doesn't want another child and then propose some potential compromises and ways to mitigate his concerns. You might need to meet him more than half way though.
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/24 08:42 PM
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That's a really smart way to go about it. We do need protections for SAHP. There has to be some kind of balance, and the courts certainly don't provide that.
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/24 08:29 PM
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Somewhat similiar situation. Roughly the same age, grew up poor, work in finance, and make between high 6 and low 7 figures, depending on the bonus. With my exwife, I didn't care and wouldn't have cared what her economic situation is - she was my ride or die. We met in the USMC and we were a great fit for each other, until she started drinking. At this point, I can't see myself getting married unless she's in my tax bracket. The economic risks are just too high. There's an old saying "If you wan…
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/24 07:47 PM
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Given the failure rates of marriages, getting married meets the legal threshold of negligence unless your partner contributes financially 50/50. Maybe if we did away with the outdated concepts of marital property, but I don't see that happening. Of course, if we did so, we'd have to create legal mechanisms to ensure SAHPs are sufficiently protected. Either way, as a man, you either need to only get into 50/50 relationships, marry when you're both young so she's building with you, don't get marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:57 PM
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For me, it's more of an issue about the lack of quality women. There are very few women that are truly suitable to be wives and mothers morally, emotionally, physically, and financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:28 PM
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There's a big difference between him not contributing to chores versus the courtship phase of a relationship ending. For the former, he could be simply lazy or it might be depression or exhaustion, these things present VERY differently in men. As for comments around him not pursuing you, it sounds like that phase of the relationship has run its course.
/r/RedPillWomen12/12/24 12:59 AM
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In this context, I'd say it's important to draw a distinction between collective versus individual obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:15 AM
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I've served with women in high intensity urban combat and this is an absolute shit take.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:21 AM
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Feminine wisdom and feminine strength. I really dislike it when people assume feminine ≈ weak and then compensate by acting masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 02:21 AM
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Throuout civilization, higher economic and social status has meant more access to women, so it shouldn't be a surprise that men have a tendency turn out this way. It's the same way other traits women consider sexually desirable. The only counter to this are men who are very high in conscientiousness, but women tend to see men that are very high in conscientiousness as boring. Subsequently, women's preferences end up selecting for men who are relatively more like to cheat. So if you want to avoid…
/r/RedPillWomen01/12/24 05:56 PM
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usually it's a result from years of clubbing/hooking up and casual online dating. some stuff can't really be fixed past a certain point I really hope that people tell them that they have a right to their own standards and they shouldn't settle. That'll keep them away from forming families and then wrecking them 7-10 years latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:17 PM
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Sure, but I'm looking for someone I see as an equal, so my standards are also very high. For example, if she lacks what I think is an appropriate level of self-control then it's an automatic no. Two examples that immediately come to mind are not living a healthy lifestyle or yelling during a disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:32 AM
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For marriage, yes. I'm in my mid 30s and while I find women older than my physically attractive, I probably wouldn't date one because I want to start a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:30 PM
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In general, I'm shocked this is even a question. However, you got to consider that one partner often wants different outcomes which forces an imbalance. For example, my exwife loved very intricate gardening and I preferred a simpler approach with native species. Does that mean I'm obligated to take on or offset half the gardening or is that her hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:47 PM
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You're right, the higher you go in certain areas, the more of an outliers you become. The challenge though is that it becomes difficult to related with someone that's too far apart. Take the 10k (or better yet a 5k) example, I'd have a hard time relating with someone that isn't in shape enough to finish either at under a 9min mile pace. We'd have just very different lifestyles when it comes to diet & exercise. Conversely, if she was a marathon runner, we'd likely be compatible in terms of diet a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:04 PM
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if you want somebody on your level in every way Just the ways I mentioned and it's more of an "approx on my level". I don't need for her to keep pace with me in a 10k, lol. But if she can't finish a 10k in under an hour then we likely have very different lifestyle goals and it's the latter that's a problem, not he former. Just keep in mind that the more above average you are in those ways the harder it is you're going to find a woman that matches. You're certainly right about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:38 PM
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Socio-economic Status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:11 PM
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Because their standards are too high So if I want a partner on my level in terms of morals & values, EQ, IQ, and SES, then does that mean I need to accept that my standards are too high and women can't reach my level? Almost sounds sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:33 PM
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Nah, there are some successful guys at any age range that get tired of hookup culture and want a real relationship but have problems finding a woman that's suitable for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:30 AM
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I'm more liable to argue that low wages and high cost of living are the more detrimental factors. You might be on to something here, but I'd argue that a contributing factor to this is lifestyle expectations more than cost of living. When I was in the Marines, both as an NCO & officer, I saw WAY too many young people pissing money away on what I consider luxury purchases (Dodge Charger at age 20, latest iPhone, high-end TV and cable package, etc). Another factor I saw for civilians is a LOT of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:27 AM
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Last time I was on these apps around that age, I remember so many of the women I spoke with or went out with who seemed to all have obvious major issues. This has been my issue exactly. It's gotten so bad that I'm at the point where I've deprioritized a woman's looks so that I can hopefully avoid a woman with major issues. Previously, I'd only date woman that were, by my standards, an 8, 9, or 10, but I couldn't find a woman who didn't have major issues; usually the women weren't where I need a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:12 AM
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In reading throguh your replies in this topic, I'm struck by your intellectual obstinance and inability to engage with others on these various topics, which is more what people voted against than any other political issue. Most people find your way of engaging with people more toxic than Trump's and more of an issue than the political points you stand for. Most of your fellow Americans view people like you as more of a "Brown Shirt" than the MAGAs (who a lot of us also don't like). I hope that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:31 PM
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And yet, President Obama had the chance at the beginning of his first term, when Democrats had control of both houses of Congress, to make is federal law but decided it wasn't a legislative priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:20 PM
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You're dealing with people that are displaying a chronic lack of empathy and are unable to think in terms beyond "me good, them bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:17 PM
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I'd want to be a trad wife if I was in the right community. However, your take on a trad wife is wildly misleading. My mother, both grandmothers, and all but one of my aunts were trad wives but that doesn't mean complete submission. They are all strong, feminine women who all had strong masculine that knew their places as men, which is something rarely talked about in this context. All the husbands exercised their authority with great discretion, took counsel from their wives, and generally defe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:28 PM
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As a divorced man in my mid 30s, my experience has been that if a woman isn't married yet, there's also a reason. If she's divorced at any age, again there's a reason. So instead of trying to find Mrs./Mr. Perfect, smart ppl look for Mrs./Mr Good. In other words, they prioritize what's important to them and deprioritize other things. I came to this same conclusion a couple years back. As long as the vibes are good, I'm nowhere as picky as I was about looks. Used to only date very very attractive…
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/24 01:30 PM
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There's a lot to unpack here, most of which I've found women, especially on reddit, have difficulty accepting. Hopefully it's helpful. Testosterone. See the experience of transmen Young men often delay relationships until they feel they're an economically viable partner. This is really due to womens' hypergamy that men have internalized generationally. Studies have shown that 94% of women consider themselves more attractive than an average woman and of course there's the infamous OKCupid study t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:38 PM
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married men make more money Correlation does not imply causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:07 PM
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If we want more men approaching women in the pursuit of marriage to have children, then we need to raise the rewards and/or lower the costs. From what I can tell, a lot of young men believe the rewards don't justify the costs, specifically the risks. I think reforming divorce laws will go a long way, but there's a lot of personal growth needed from both young men and young women to align to each other's needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:25 PM
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I would be more inclined to help a man out, only because I'm tired of the behavior of women in my gym. I would do this for anyone. If I'm back home, I'd stop for anyone. If I was driving most of the rest of the country, they should have a cellphone so unless I could see they were elderly or disabled, I'm not stopping. I'd help anyone out and routinely do here in Manhattan; tourist often have that lost look. I'd be much more likely to offer help another man. I'd assume she'll interpret my offer o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:10 PM
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If done so before. She was I'd guess about 40lbs overweight when we started dating but then gained another 40. What bothered me more than the weight was the lack of discipline, unwillingness to speak help for her depression, and horrible diet (which was linked to the other two issues). I stayed around to try and get her help but she ended up pushing me away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:40 AM
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It's less than a 1% increase to the total cost to see a child to term. Would be done like all the other mandatory tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 03:07 AM
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This is why it confounds me how much importance people place on superficial things. As long as I don't find a partner unattractive, I'm so much more concerned about many other things. I'll take a six who is wise, has a high EQ, strong conflict resolution skills, and loves to cuddle over a 10 that lacks those other qualities. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:48 AM
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women do not respect men who they see as "equals". Until women are able to get past their hypergamous tendencies, I don't see this changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:30 PM
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Feminism is suffering the effects of "the [girl] who cried wolf" The term violence, when used by someone that calls themselves a feminist, is really difficult to understand - to the point where is looses all meaning and I just can't care about their concern. "Words are violence", "Silence is violence", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:27 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 03:11 AM
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Just a PSA - you cannot support an exit plan for SAHP and not support prenups and mandatory paternity testing, without being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:21 PM
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I threw the idea out there a couple months ago, he was kinda dubious about it. Like he thought it would just leave him frustrated to do something sex-tangent when he's not in the mood. How did you get over that mental hump? Maybe Im just simple. Either I get sexually turned on and we end up having sex and I'm not frustrated, or I don't get turned on and don't fet frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:16 PM
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I was the man in this situation during my marriage (marriage ended because of her drinking though). I know how hurtful it can be to be rejected, so I never rejected her. However, while she always wanted full on sex, I didn't have the energy for this multiple times per day. I was a mustang Marine Infantry Officer so my days were long and physically exhausting, not to mention we shared chores evenly. Our compromise was that I would always do something to help, depending on my energy levels (sex, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:58 PM
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Midtown or FiDi? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:41 PM
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I agree that men care less about this than women, but I know a lot of men that wouldn't marry a woman that's not approximately in the same approximate economic situation. This mostly comes down to divorce laws in the US. Outside of that constraint, I'd agree that almost all men wouldn't otherwise care. But to ignore the reality of divorce is absolutely foolish. I'm all-in on egalitarianism though, so I'm good with cooking, cleaning, and expecting her to help dig holes for the new shrubs she want…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:58 PM
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I agree that men care less about this than women, but I know a lot of men that wouldn't marry a woman that's not approximately in the same approximate economic situation. This mostly comes down to divorce laws in the US. Outside of that constraint, I'd agree that almost all men wouldn't otherwise care. But to ignore the reality of divorce is absolutely foolish. I'm all-in on egalitarianism though, so I'm good with cooking, cleaning, and expecting her to help dig holes for the new shrubs she want…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:58 PM
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This is absolutely a huge part of the issue. There's no real debating that our monkey brains are hardwired to associate success in terms of resources with future success in terms of having & raising children. The issue is that socialist policies really fly in the face of that reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:22 PM
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Like I said before, it's inappropriate to discuss only the cons that women face without also discussing the pros and cons for both women and men. I can't engage in such narrow minded discourse. Have a nice day! Edit: lol, you materially changed your response after I responded. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:35 PM
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And you can't think of what men might be giving up in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:31 PM
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I wouldn't say I'm traditional by any stretch, but I would say it's inappropriate to consider only the cons and specifically only the cons for women. No matter traditional or egalitarian, there are pros and cons for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:42 PM
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At an individual level, solidarity. At a collective level, I worry for their home countries because in aggregate, we get awesome immigrants. In aggregate and especially compared to Europe, we attract people who are often the brightest and/or the hardest working. In a way, that robs other countries, but I'm happy to have them. If it were up to me, I'd have optional but fully-funded "integration programs" that helps people and families adapt. I'm talking onsite, live-in programs with ESL classes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:54 PM
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every "intimidating career woman" I've dated have been rude and argumentative. An "intimidating woman" is just a nice way of saying "insufferable"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:44 PM
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Had several women ask for it, but I'm just not into it. I'd do it for my exwife on special occasions but she liked it a bit rough. It certainly wasn't an every day thing because I had trouble walking the next day. All joking aside, we did it a couple of times and even though she took precautions, I just couldn't get the idea of "shit on my dick" out of my mind and would go limp. Outside of some mild bdsm (like edging and orgasm denial) and the occasional three or moresome, I'm pretty vanilla. Bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:42 AM
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I had to use an enema for a different purpose and it burned for like a day after. For a routine enema, that's not normal. If you had to shit your brains out for a colonoscopy or similar procedure and that caused some irritation, that's a bit more understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:33 AM
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Going after someone bc of s breakup is a whole different level of crazy than going after someone who falsely accused you of a very serious crime. I'd only turn my back on family for one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:25 AM
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I'm actually surprised that more men don't seek extra judicial justice in these circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:11 AM
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I'm a couple years north of that age range, but I just don't care about women complaining about being approached in public. My attitude is, if she can't handle interacting with a polite stranger then she gas no business being out in public & that's her problem to work on, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:29 AM
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Most if these are just how I was raised in the south. Women up north seem to have a strong reaction, sometimes positive and sometimes negative. I don't do flowers on the first date, that's a bit much. If she's not able to plan appropriately for the weather as an adult, that's a big old red flag. So while I would give her my coat, there likely won't be a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:14 PM
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She worked on the front lines Noice front lines repairing radar system That term "front lines", I do not think it means what you think it means. All joking aside, radar systems, it sounds like counter battery or air defende based on your description, and the people who operate/maintain them are WAY too valuable to be on the front lines. Those of us on the front lines save platoons or companies at most, most likely just the other bastards in our squad. Those radar folks help save hundreds to tens…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:47 AM
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if a guy doesn't find his platonic female friend attractive at all, then he doesn't want to have sex with her. That's not always true. A lot of men have had sex with women we weren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:00 PM
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My point is commitment doesn't mean marriage, and marriage doesn't mean commitment. Marriage is just an honestly quite flimsy contract This degree to which this is true, legally and socially, is probably the biggest driver for the differences. I don't know that I'd ever get remarried if a new partner and I weren't able or willing to have children. The risks in a marriage aren't worth the benefits, other than providing for a stable home for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:12 PM
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Can we please seperate submissive/agreeable vs cooperative? I would say that most people can agree with wanting a cooperative wife/spouse, but a submissive wife? I certainly wouldn't want a submissive wife and I think a lot of guys would agree. Cooperative though is essential.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:07 PM
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The only reason most men consider marriage is to provide a stable environment to raise children. If a women is past childbearing age, most men will not want to get married to her unless he already has children & they live with him. Otherwise, the risk isn't worth it for most men. For me, I'd still get married if she was close to my socio-economic level. Otherwise, only if she was willing & able to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:16 AM
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If you can afford a live-in nanny then go for it. Otherwise, I think it's a crazy amount of work for just one person.
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/24 03:04 AM
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Yep! Corrected
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:17 AM
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I think you need to come to terms with cards life has dealt you and make the best of the situation. The chances are very slim of either: You finding a good man to have children with in time, or Having the money to have a child on your own and either energy to raise it yourself or being able to find a new man to raise it with.
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/24 01:42 AM
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Whenever I see these questions, I'm reminded how women don't seem to understand how men see beautiful as different than sexy. If we love you and find you beautiful, we'll find you sexy regardless of your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:32 AM
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A. Men are far more forgiving about women’s looks than women are. I cringe anytime a woman complains about "societal" beauty standards when we all know the extreme beauty standards are from other women and not straight men.
/r/RedPillWomen01/08/24 01:07 PM
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Maybe it is a class thing. Tl;DR - yes, indirectly Due to opportunities afford me through the USMC, I've gone from being raised in trailer parks to living a very comfortable life working in finance in NYC. From what I've experienced, the biggest differentiator is a woman's conscientiousness, which roughly tracks with what class she grew up in. From poorer to upper middle class to lower-upper class, the more privileged their upbringing, the more likely they are to be higher in conscientiousness a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:46 PM
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Yes, but our souls are worth more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:49 AM
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This isn't really up for debate. It's mostly intrasexual competition just like body building is for men. That's not to say that most women prefer fat men or that men prefer unkempt women, just that the extremes each gender goes to is driven by intersexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:03 PM
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They're hoping the mother handles that part. I'd agree with you there, especially when it comes to boomers and genx. Millennial men, on the whole, a lot more involved. Still needs work though. I do think a lot of men seem to want "kids" because "my legacy" I really don't think women understand why this is. For masculine men, it's more about having a positive impact on society than it is for selfish reasons. It matured version of the urge a lot of masculine men have to join the military - the "he…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:54 PM
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Women go for their most desirable options. If he's hot, looks handsome and rich, or her type. He's offering a date, the women pick their favorite and best ones top down. A lot of people do this and then wonder why they're miserable. Picking partners based soley on looks or economics is risky. They're free to do this, but I roll my eyes when I hear people complain about how "all men" or "all women" behave poorly in their eyes. I mean, wth did you expect when you were more focused on their looks t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:30 PM
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It's great in theory, bit the practicality of limiting relationships in my socio-economic bracket is something that's necessitated by current legal norms but conflicts with both women's tendency to only date up in socio-economic terms and men's tendency not not care about a woman's socio-economic status. So there's a lot of friction between these legal norms plus reasonable responses from men on one side, and both women and men's dating preference on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:22 PM
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If he is into an LTR with her, like a genuine LTR, not an FWB arrangement, then it boggles my mind as to why she is not marriage material. Other people have told you why. It's the legal risk. A lot of men have seen older men get screwed over by women weaponizing the courts and by female-centric family courts. I personally mitigate that by only dating women I intend on marrying and I'll only marry a woman that's roughly in the same economic situation as me. There are also personality traits relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:22 PM
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Turning a blind eye is tough to quantify. I'm not doing business with a guy who just got arrested on DV charges. But I'm also not going to step into the middle of intimate partner violence, unless one of them is family, nor am I getting involved in something happening on the subwayfor example. It seems to me that the will of the people where I live, as expressed through the actions of the DAs and legislators, is that I don't get involved. At the point, the only people I'd be willing to risk it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:59 AM
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So then you're just criminalizing adultery for women. Incorrect. Your criminlizing her not having told him that he may not be the father. Problem with that is you then have to shift the burden to one party or the other to prove that she did or didn't inform that victim that he may not be the father. I don't see any of those situations working, which means the only way to address this is to make DNA testing mandatory for both parents (or at least the father).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:29 PM
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I can tell you exactly what's going on in these situations. It's the subconscious effect of extreme intersexual competition between women, which is extreme compared to men. But because they do this indirectly, that's what breads this "we're all tens, I'm just more of a ten than her". They end up buying into all this to the point where they actually beleive they're 10s, so they can't settle for any less than a 9 or 10 because "they know their worth". If they did settle for less than a 9 or 10, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:21 PM
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That's absolutely insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:09 PM
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As I said, I think the current approach works well for a SAHP. I agree that we need to protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:34 AM
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It's not alimony that's an issue, it's division of assets and child support. A lot of states are moving towards default 50/50 custody, which is a good first step. There's no need for child support in those cases, but not every state has figured that out yet. As for division of assets, we have a long way to go for the law to catch up to reality. We need to strike a better balance between communal property and seperate property. Current attempts at equitable distribution often lean too heavily tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:17 AM
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From what I can tell, you're asking why your friends are cautioning you about looking for men who meet the following requirements: Church going In his early 30s No sex before marriage Looking for a women in her early 40s for a long-term relationship Is comfortable with the risk of not having children As a man looking at this list, I can tell you that you're more likely to experience frustration & heart ache with this combination than you are to experience success. There is a risk that, because o…
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/24 12:12 AM
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except when it'S their romantic partners. This is it. Ppl really need to understand the role of 1) beautiful vs sexy, and 2) different type of love in how relationships mature over time. A beautiful woman can remain so throughout her life. However, most women loose "sexy" gradually during their 30s due to a combination of genetics and the accumulated effects of life decisions: poor diet & exercise, sun damage, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, etc. My observation is that men seem to loose it gradually fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:02 AM
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Yes?, and that's exactly why marriage and commitment is important at the individual and societal levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:52 PM
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Fitness is an essential part of my lifestyle, from diet, to sleep hygiene, to exercise. We fundamentally wouldn't be compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:53 PM
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As I've said there are no ideal people out there. Well said. You cannot truly accept imperfections is others unless you accept them.in yourself, and vice versa. It depends on how much they value the unmet requirements. Also well said. It seems a lot of people are confusing preferences with requirements, usually because their ego is out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:55 PM
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To be more precise, most people have shit conflict resolution skills and/or put the burden of their own needs on their partner (instead of taking responsibility for managing them).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:57 PM
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Lol, you can't help yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:34 PM
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I've ended friendships and business relationships over shit like this, so doing what I can to cut this bullshit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:02 PM
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Also you use “that” when you refer to men and you use “who” when referring to women. I don’t like that. “That” is used to refer to inanimate objects. It’s like using “it”. (“a man that won’t cheat” “a man that’s high in conscientiousness” vs “a woman who can cook”) Thank you for pointing that out. Now I can point back to this in later discussions when I tell women to fuck off when they make similar complaints. It ain't that deep bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:33 PM
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Damn autocorrect strikes again. Ty The ac for caress was carcass, caught that one. Would have been awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:57 PM
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I always viewed it as a duty/responsibility on my end, but that doesn't always mean piv/oral sex. Sometimes you're just tired, so ya both have to compromise l.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:30 AM
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They're not "trading in" so much as leaving a partner that's abandoned them, intimately speaking, and then looking for the best partner they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:28 AM
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There are a couple of things women can do to minimize the chances of this happening. As others have mentioned, the most important thing is to find a man that won't cheat in the first place. What that means is women need to find a man that's high in conscientiousness. A lot of women don't like that, so they unknowingly roll the dice. The second thing is to find a man before he's fully established himself financially and make sure he knows you're with him, win or lose. It's unfortunately very comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:33 AM
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It's not confidence that's seen as unattractive, but rather arrogance combined with combativeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:55 PM
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The lower levels of discipline are a direct result of the expulsion of fathers from the home, which is why default 50/50 custody is so important. The lower discipline in schools is also a consequence of the over feminization of the practice of teaching and the gender ratios of teachers. Teaching should be a balance of empathy and discipline, but we tend to bounce between extremes (pre 60s vs post 90s) As for the science of teaching, the use of the Socratic method has declined greatly in univerti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:39 PM
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I think that men can be very empathetic in-group. Men who are fellow soldiers or teammates, for instance, are probably highly empathetic with each other Absolutely 💯. I was in team sport in HS and enlisted in the Marines. The dynamic was amazing and even in my 30s, I can get a good read when someone played a team sport or not in HS/college or joined the Army/Marines vs Navy/USAF. Forget about all the stereotypical differences bn nerds vs jocks, there's also a difference in how they take to group…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:18 PM
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I think this is the right take. I live in NYC but was born and raised in the south. Before moving here or while I'm at home, I'd certainly help out anyone I didn't know. Not a chance of me doing that here in NYC unless 1) it's women who has kids with her or, 2) it's a guy or a worker that's struggling with carrying something. All this is only because of the legal and social norms here in NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:36 PM
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This is very good perspective on why women want marriage (& kids), but it doesn't address why fewer men want to get married. For obvious reasons, men don't face the same biological timelines that women do. Additionally men want to feel they can support a family and the hollowing out of the middle class has made this much harder for everyone. Next you have the legal, emotional, and financial repercussions of divorce that most of us have seen fathers, uncles, or neighbors go through when most divo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:07 PM
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Yes, Manahattan :) And there's a signficiant difference between walking someone home and giving them a ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:28 PM
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Not well enough, apparently. Mb
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:08 PM
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Pretending to be a friend or being friendly? I've never walked a friend home.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:47 PM
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In the case described, it's a guy being friendly, not trying to be friends and he's looking for a relationship, not just sex. Your inability to understand the nuances and distinction here is deeply concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:45 PM
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For context - I'm certainly not the hottest guy around, but I'm good looking enough that I routinely get hit on by women when I'm out. With that said, I really have to object to your steak analogy. I've had good and bad sex with both very attractive women and very average women. Different people value different things in a partner, so even if most people might think a woman is average (4-6 range), I might find her more attractive than what others night consider my looks-match (around an 8). Why?…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:38 PM
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Same. I'd guess that of the weddings I've been to while single, I've hooked up with someone around half the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:50 PM
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Insults are never appropriate, full stop. But you have to recognize the role of shame in a society: it is a form of social violence and coercion intended to reinforce culutural norms. Shaming people for their actions can sometimes be appropriate, shaming people for things they can't control never is. The complexity comes in when you try to exert a preference for a partner in a way that shames someone else. That's never ok, regardless of if the original issue is inside their control or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:44 PM
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I was going to put "no yelling", but with this and "good conflict resolution skills", it's redundant. Of all my relatives, only 1 has raised his voice to a partner and he's a bit of a looser anyways (poor conflict resolution skills and lacks the social graces to avoid gossiping and loosing their temper). It's simply something I don't think anyone should tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:06 PM
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Fitness is a huge part of my life, so I want someone that shares my passion in this area. Excellent conflict resolution skills and reasonably high EQ. High in conscientiousness. Wise, calm, kind, caring, & compassionate. She must have done some kind of substantial volunteer or public-good work. This one is a big contributor to why I don't continue seeing someone. Bonus points if she served in the military or one of her parents did. She has to be smart but also willing to do manual work around th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:05 PM
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Sure is. My parents went through this. Makes me think "why bother".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:08 PM
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Almost all women gossip. It's their sport. Akso - almost all women aren't safe to open up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:28 PM
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Yeah, I felt like a late bloomer in highschool. I didn't get laid until my Freshman year (which, looking back, is stupid). I, in fact, did have to learn to suppress my empathy and how to manipulate women. I didn't realize for about 15 years how much damage that was doing to me, acting in a way that was inconsistent with my morals. I still struggle with this today and I'm often faced with a hard decision in my romantic life to live in accordance with my values or go after what I want in an unscru…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:10 AM
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I want to make sure I understand your assertion. Are you saying that a substantial decline in population won't have a significant economic impact?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:37 PM
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I don't want to focus on why it happens, but the fact that birthrate around the civilized world are in free fall will likely cause an economic collapse since most economic systems depend on continual growth to fund things like social benefits. I only see a couple of ways forward. Either we develop some technical solutions, we implement some radical new social programs, or we collapse. The economic-based social programs that have been tried in various countries like Poland and South Korea have no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:34 PM
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No, we need to update concepts like marital property and equitable distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:42 AM
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People need to have discussions about allocations before they get married🤦‍♂️ If you agree to something reasonable beforehand, I don't see how you're going to be in a position to financially abuse someone or be financially abused yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:54 PM
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And that's why we need to change the laws. Your income is broadly determined by your value and not the number of hours worked. Your value to your employer is based on the skills, knowledge, and wisdom have have accumulated up until that point. A SAHP that helped put their partner through school made significant sacrifices, but a hobosexual or gold digger did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:43 PM
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So far behind that you think you're ahead. Never once has anyone said that a man has toxic feminity for telling a woman her place is in the kitchen. They immediately go to his mindset being toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:16 PM
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☝️ That's kinda my point. The way civil administration and laws were structured back 150 years ago, bankruptcy was a crime not a civil issue. That why these laws existed, because of the husband was going to ne criminally responsible, he rightfully should have some element of control. The problems came around after we decriminalized bankruptcy, 1869 in the US, and made it a civil matter. Especially after the 19th amendment, we should have figured all of this out instead of having to wait until th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:49 PM
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Honest question, why do you think banks did this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:33 AM
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100% agree. My exwife and I had a prenup that was very fair & allowed for each of us to have joint expenses vs individual "play money". It was important to me to avoid these types of problems that couples tend to have. When we split, I even gave her extra as a set-aside for addiction treatment, but she never used it. It's also extremly important to structure these to account for a stay at home parent!
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/24 08:44 PM
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Like IIlona Maher 🥰🥰. Yes please! Edit : My ex-wife had a similar build to hers. She asked me why I loved her body once. I told her 1) D1 babies, 2) When the zombie apocalypse comes, we're gonna last a long time, 3) all joking aside, I respect the hard work & mental tenacity/focus it takes and those characteristics are very appealing to me since she was also gentle and caring and feminine when it was appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:41 PM
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It's a bit of a chicken and egg problem. Housing costs will rise to the level that buyers will tolerate, buyers with 2 incomes can tolerate more that buyers with 1 income. If we want to solve the problem of needing 2 incomes to survive, we'd have to seriously tax dual income households which will really hurt struggling families and seriously risks jeopardizing women’s security. Edit: as others have pointed out, increasing the supply might also help. I'd like to beleive that, but the paranoid par…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:12 PM
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Pick better women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:30 AM
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I've had plenty of male friends who do the same thing. Hell, I did it as well when I was in my late teens. My friends congratulated me at the time, but after the crazy came out, their attitude was "you should have seen that coming" ... and they were right. Because we have a higher preference for direct communication & problem solving (as opposed to venting), I think guys are much more willing and able to hold each other and themselves accountable. Which means we learn from this a little sooner. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:32 PM
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I mean as a population, not as individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:59 AM
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If you go for a man in the military, either go for the nerdy guy or the religious guy. I didn't see them cheat in their wives anywhere near the same degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:23 AM
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This checks out. Me - Marine enlisted then officer in the infantry. Her - Marine Avaiator.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:20 AM
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I was in the Corps and married a woman in the Corps. It's doable if you understand what you're signing up for. It's the ones that go in blind that get screwed over the hardest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:17 AM
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I REALLY don't think they do this on purpose. They just get blinders on when it comes to the behaviors of men they like. Truthfully, we men do the exact same thing. This is why it's so important that we ask trusted elders to help us vet potential partners, especially a trusted elder of the opposite gender (assuming het relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:39 PM
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It is stupid. However, women largely determine what constitutes a HVM and, broadly speaking, being very high in conscientiousness isn't high on that list. So, low conscientious men with options will cheat much more than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:41 AM
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It's a type of social violence that only matters if you let it. You have 2 choices, ignore them or escalate. At this point, I just ignore the messenger to the point where I dehumanize them. Same as the protestors on campuses - I'm strangely ok with the NYPD pepper spraying/manhandling them. Not the most healthy outlook, but I'm tired of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:05 PM
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This impacts men and women. It's called emotional regulation, which is a key part of emotional intelligence. Many people do not effectively regulate their emotions and instead just react via basic instinct instead of processing and regulating their emotions. These people are emotionally stunted, developmentally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:30 PM
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Perhaps you should reserch PTSD and not be so ignorant as that's all that's coming across right now and it's making you look real stupid. Oh little girl,【look at my username](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ramadi_(2006)). Don't you dare tell me about "trama".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:40 PM
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This pretty much describes me. I mostly limit serious relationships to women in my economic bracket on due to divorce laws and have benefited immensely from HUC here in NYC. If not for divorce laws, I probably would have remarried by now. The thing divorce laws get wrong is that my current income is largely based on the investments in myself that I've made over the past ~20 years. I see no reason for a future spouse to have any claim on my earnings (from labor or investments), unless she was a S…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:16 AM
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Firstly, I think it's disingenuous to single out women's risk taking behavior at young ages without also commenting about men's, which is inarguably WAY worse. Secondly, part of the issue is low-EQ young people (women in this case) that cannot self-regulate their (fear) emotion enough to process their emotions and think objectively. Young men also have similar problems with other emotions. Hell, even a lot of middle age people have the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:38 AM
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I understand the fear, but at some point, you have to process and regulate your emotions and not let them control your decision making so that you can think objectively. You talk about intelligence, but self-regulation of emotions is a big part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 10:28 PM
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I have blessed "logic" upon you. I pray you learn how to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:49 PM
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Also I've been raped and abused by a man never a women. I was sexually abused by a woman, but somehow I'm smart enough to trust my children with a strange woman and not a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:36 PM
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How on earth are we supposed to square up this debilitating fear of men and the fact that women will need to register for the draft soon?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:34 PM
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No. As long as I don't find her unattractive, chemistry is more important than incremental improvements in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:25 PM
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I ditched the whole notion and looked for a good woman instead. The world would ne a better place if more of us did this. I'm convinced that as long as you're don't find your partner unattractive, there are many more important things for a healthy, successful relationship other than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:49 PM
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🤌👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:24 AM
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2/3 of the women here I find attractive https://www.mamamia.com.au/no-makeup-selfies If I knew them and liked their personality, I might even say 3/4 assuming age appropriate. There's a 20yo that would be a hard pass even when I was 20, but that's bc she looks too young.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:49 AM
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I beleive in treating everyone with common decency, mutual respect, and indifferently of gender expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:25 AM
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How can a significantly weaker person beat you up? It's giving "how can I hurt her if I only smack her with an open palm"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:10 AM
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Once you learn about BPD, it all makes sense. Cousin's exwife has BPD. Once you see it and learn what it is, you'll never miss it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:08 AM
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It seems like very few women ... have "good vibes". I agree. But it's not centered on their natural looks, it's centered on their attitude and how that's expressed. That's why you see men telling women they should smile more. What they're clumsily and inappropriately saying is "you're physically beautiful but you're putting out negative vibes and simply smiling more would go a long way to putting out better vibes".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:27 PM
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I think you're conflating things. The criteria for looks for most men is "be about average or better" and what I will summarize as "good vibes", which is really more about demeanor and presentation (but not attractiveness). The "stricter criteria" you're referring to does exists, but it's about "good vibes" and not "be more attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:29 PM
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I think the problem with these studies is that they don't do a good enough job separating race and culture so the results aren't as helpful as people want them to be. There are large swaths of people who I would not be compatible with on cultural grounds, some of those people are white, some black, some Latin, some Asian, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:25 PM
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Men are not very versatile with the women they find attractive, and we as women need to stop forcing them to be. Couldn't be farther from the truth. I have a thing for athletic gingers with blue or green eyes, but I find a lot of women attractive. Most guys I know IRL are the same way. There are some things I find off putting, like a recessed chin or being overweight. Other than that, as long as I don't find you ugly, I'm FAR more concerned about who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:26 PM
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No wonder he ran to porn when his wife did seemingly everything in her power to kill intimacy. With the guys I know, this happens WAY more often than a man being actually addicted to porn. A contributing factor here is the couple's ability to effectively resolve conflict.
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/24 10:12 PM
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Absolutely. My exwife was smarter than me and so to were a couple of the women I've dated. I've also dated a women that can run faster than me. Given the fact that I was running 3 miles in under 17min for my PFT, that took more getting used to but I got over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:52 PM
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100% agree. The best response is to make sure we give our children the tools necessary to select mature partners and to encourage them to date with a purpose as opposed to wasting time. I worry we focus too much on the negatives of waiting instead of giving them the tools necessary to select a good partner earlier in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:21 PM
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Conscription absolutely can and should be abolished I won't argue with such a dangerously naive position. I think men also date across and up. The research literature is very clear that this is only a female phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:17 PM
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Preferences in court proceedings - family court, criminal court, etc. For example, any POC will tell you how dangerous "white women tears" can be for them. It's being slowly dismantled, but there's still a long way to go. Right now, women by and large only date across and up. That will take some time to dismantle, but it can be done. We certainly can't get rid of conscription, such ideas are naive. We can certainly make it egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:45 PM
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Unreasonable? That depends on the state and the situation. I was born & raised in the South and I've had a CC permit where I'm from. In those places, I certainly might* step in because the laws are setup to encourage that. I live in NYC now, and given the current laws and proesecutor conduct, I wouldn't step in and I don't feel bad about it. If I have to choose between her physical safety and my legal safety, I'm going with mine. If anyone objects to that, then get the local laws changed. *it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:57 PM
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The personal is the political with most of them, so they're not at all receptive to hearing anything about "patriarchal concepts like personal responsiblity", especially as it relates to their choices & consequences (grades, picking shitty boys to date, etc). There is one that's amazing, smart, brave, tough, and gentle. I'm able to have great conversations with her. In fact, she was having a bit of gender dysphoria as she went through the early stages of puberty (as I think a lot of ppl do). I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:45 PM
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“Strong women work on oil rigs” or “Ice Fishing is feminist” or “Plumbers are empowered” would be great campaigns. Agreed! I’m gonna guess there would be some such hamstering such as “the men are mean to us in those professions!” or some other means of escape though. Within reason, they need to adapt to the environment instead of demanding the environment adapt to them. The women I know from back home that are in the trades are amazing women - unfortunately they're also all married. Met my exwif…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:34 PM
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Dismantling female privileges would go a long way. We especially need to hold women accountable for clinging on to the parts of the patriarchy that benefits them while they simultaneously reject the parts that don't. I get it, it's hard letting go of privilege, but with the right policy changes and dose of good old fashion social shaming, I think it can be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:19 PM
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Don't have kids, but I have nieces and nephews. That said, I've tried to help my nieces but the data shows that a lot of the women in their generation has been brainwashed by the radical left. Whereas all my nephews are temperamentally suited to hearing things they don't like (e.g., when I explain about the dangers of the radical right), only one of my nieces is - the rest are too far gone. What I can do is help my nephews and one niece in thinking through how to select a marriagable partner. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:07 PM
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I was also going to comment this. I'm (nearly) 5ft11 and I've dated a few women over 6ft. But I've been lifting since I was an early teen, I'm a former Marine Infantry Officer with a couple of combat tours, and I've competed in regional MMA. I also work in high finance now. Like most other men, I would equally get beat to a pulp by a 150lb Connor McGregor, 400lb Brian Shaw, or 240lb 57yo Tyson. The average 6ft2 off the street though, wouldn't stand a chance. So women that make judgments solely b…
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/24 06:41 PM
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Naive mostly. I tried to explain to my brother that once he had kids, he comes last. It's the family, the marriage, your spouse as an individual, your children, then yourself. I think too many people are too self-centered and selfish to really align to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:47 PM
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Your love won’t always stay “the same”… it will ebb and flow. Being deliriously happy and “in love” with each other, 24/7/365, for 60-odd years is remarkably unrealistic! Accepting the ebbs and flows, and cultivating the idea that love is an action, not a sensation can take you far. Really wish more people shared this view.
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/24 04:31 AM
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does a woman being agreeable and submissive matter more than her being pretty No, but other things are more important than being pretty. Specifically, I worry about the term 'agreeableness' - it's too close to what I think of as a pushover and CERTAINLY would not want a submissive partner. I much prefer the concept of 'cooperative', which to me means a partner that isn't afraid to share their own perspective but is willing to compromise, pick their battles, and negotiate in good faith. So cooper…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:56 AM
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I think people should have a trusted, older family member or mentor of the opposite sex help vet partners. 100%. I would certainly ask my aunt to vet a woman I'm thinking about proposing to and Imnin my mid 30s. Doesn't mean she'd have the final say, but I'd really want and appreciate her input. I think anyone that doesn't seek out advice is only hurting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:10 PM
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Some people are wild. I literally can't imagine asking someone who just cooked to also clean the dishes. When I cook, I tend to clean as I go, but I still can't imagine a partner asking me to clean the dishes after they just got done cooking. But honestly, wth are "traditionally feminine chores"? Are guys put here saying they can't do laundry or whatever? 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:31 PM
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As a fairly well off guy, I can tell you that looks aren't the limiting factor for me approaching a woman. Health, personality, and intellect are. Don't want or need multiple women - just one good one. This idea these incels put out really misses the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:47 PM
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I probably wouldn't date a 25yo, too young. Next question
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:16 AM
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What's funny is how many people don't get the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:59 AM
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First of all, you can't compare the situation that women in South Korea face to what women in the US face. So US women adopting the tenants of the 4B movement to help them address the concerns you refer to is a foolish endeavor because there is virtually 0% chance of success. Men exhibit aggression physically while women do so socially. So you're just as likely to end one form of aggression as you are the other. Additionally, trying to make physical violence a gender issue is pretty ignorant giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:08 PM
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i know he doesn’t care That's a huge red flag
/r/RedPillWomen18/04/24 02:29 AM
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I think you pay all household/common expenses out of the combined pot, then you have seperate accounts for what's left over which you split based on income, normalized against 50/50 split (unless one parent is an agreed SAHP, in which case it's 50/50). So for example, in the case of 100k and 50k, then after common expenses are paid, then the higher earning sound gets 58% of the left over money and the other spouse gets 42%, for their respective private accounts. The household/common expenses are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:18 AM
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Let's assume I make 100k at 35 years old and I'm getting remarried to a woman that makes 50k. My salary is reflective of my effort & success up to this point, much more than it is my current effort. Why should my future wife have claim to the value I created in the past 15 years, for which I'm now benefitting? Let's say I make 500k at 35, how is my fiance now bringing 5x more to the marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:36 AM
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Balance is usually best! Don't let people poison your mind into thinking cooperative is always a euphemism for submissive. It means you have to be wise about when to assert yourself vs when to go with the flow. To me, this is something any emotionally mature individual would want from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:37 PM
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I can't speak for other men on this topic, but I want a cooperative woman - not a submissive woman. I like a woman with a quick wit, an opinion, and enough confidence to be assertive , but that has the emotional IQ to not be 'feisty'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:32 PM
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A slightly toned down version of woman A would be fine with me. Wouldn't care if she had a tomboyish style of dress and stereotypically masculine hobbies or not - kinda a slight plus if she does. The "ultra stoic" and "never leaves the house without full makeup and gets her nails done every week" would certainly not be my preference. If she's making "significantly more than me", that's a very considerable salary but I have dated women who make in the high 7 figures. As long as the prenup account…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:49 PM
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And the sun is hot. We can have a circle jerk about the details or we can engage on the point about bodily autonomy and consent we all know she was trying to make.🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:21 PM
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The comparison is not in the act, but the concept of bodily autonomy and consent. True - the acts are not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:19 PM
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Intrasexual competition is only loosely informed by the desires of the opposite gender. This is true for both men and women. For women, we have all sorts of cosmetic surgery, fashion, etc. For men, we have body building, status symbols like cars and watches, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:18 PM
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Once they act like a bro, I start treating them like a bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:18 AM
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renounce four major activities, which include the following: sex with men, child-rearing, dating men and marriage with men If a penis-having partner uses they/them pronouns, are they off limits? How does this impact trans partners of cis women? So, is this like a cis- llesbian movement or something? This is so confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 09:05 PM
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Honestly, as long as you're not overweight and take reasonably good care of your teeth/hair/skin and wear decent clothes, then the vast majority of women are good looking enough. The biggest reason I don't approach some women is because of the vibes they're putting out. This is why older men tell women to "smile more often", because they see they're attractive but putting out bad vibes.
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/24 04:08 PM
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I'm with you on these! My ex-wife, whom I met in the Corps, checked both of these boxes. She was also a bit of a muscle mommy. I really prefer emotionally strong women that still have their feminine strength about the. 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:52 PM
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Minnesota nice has entered the cat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:49 PM
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Yes. If he's following these accounts it means he's frequenting this type of material enough to make following them worthwhile, which is a problem in an of itself. Perhaps what's worse is the fact that he has no decorum about it. If your were concerned about him looking at adult-ish material at all, I'd say you might be overreacting, but when he's following them (with a public account no less), then there's an issue he needs to deal with before he's ready for a successful relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen12/03/24 11:04 PM
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not one to improve your prospects Don't I know it. Thing is, fitness has been a huge part of my life for going on 15 years now. It's a lifestyle compatibility issue much more than it is an aesthetics issue. I also only date women in my approximate tax bracket and that's a MUCH bigger limiter than the fitness issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:29 PM
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What you're getting at I think is the different facets of love. English has very few words for love and I think it causes us a lot of problems. As nearest I can tell, you're talking about the differences between lust and love. If you're going to use the Greek terms, I think you're talking about the difference between eros and storge, or even how eros changes to encompass the appreciation of someone's inner beauty. At any rate, for me, as long as I don't find a woman's physical appearance unattra…
/r/RedPillWomen26/02/24 02:37 PM
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There's a material difference between being attracted to a characteristic versus driving demand that drives people, especially a partner, to undergo body modification. As to your comment about "not all developmentally disabled men". Of course not, nor did I say that or anything that a reasonable person would construe as inplying that all developmentally disabled people are driving the demand. The inability to control both your dick and your mouth are both strong indicators of developmental disab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:51 PM
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Men's expectation for women's appearance I thought you were right on everything, but dead wrong on this part right here. The vast majority of men have fairly low standards for a woman's appearance. Essentially, don't be obese & put a little effort into your appearance and most men will be happy & care infinitely more about how you behave & your morals/values. All of this crap around nails, lip filler, bailiayge, botox, etc is ALL driven by other women. Demand for bbl & breast implants is partial…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:03 PM
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Would be nice if feminists didn't systematically destroy or invade men's spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:36 PM
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It's the vibes, for sure. Most of your pictures put out what I would perceive as a negative vibes. Check our War Hamster on TikTok for a very good example of a slightly above average looking woman who puts out amazing vibes that males her insanely attractive
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/24 02:46 AM
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Do I care how much money a woman makes, not really, especially if she's in an altruistic field. Given that I'm in my mid 30s now, I don't usually date women in their 20s. Unless a woman is in 25 or under, I'd expect her to have her shit together and I can't see myself dating a woman that young. While I don't care how much money money a woman makes, the law sure as he'll does if we get married. So for that reason, I don't date woman that aren't relatively close to my economic situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:52 AM
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I have no idea. I just don't like the feeling of tightness. I've dated all sorta of women and for whatever that I cannot explain, I prefer women women on the looser side. I'm just under 6.5" in circumference, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:29 PM
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she has a wide vagina This is my preference 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:34 PM
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I don't think so. I look back and the few times I've looked at porn while in a relationship, it was always an issue of not wanting or able to be intimate with my partner, so porn was a place holder. I'm sure some guys get addicted, but I've never seen compelling proof that men in relationships generally use porn for anything other than a backup option. I think the reason women don't see men's porn usage as a backup is because of their privilege. Anytime a woman has a problem in a relationship, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:44 AM
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Had my ex-wife and I, whom I married when I was young & had no real income or assets, not divorced due to her alcoholism, then yes - it would have been our money. For any woman I meet at this point, she better be close to my level if anything is going to become "ours" because my current income/assets are more a reflection of my effort and achievements up to this point and a partner's contribution at this point is negligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:07 PM
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The cost of divorce greatly overshadows the slight benefits. "Never sign a contract with someone that benefits from breaking it". I make high 6 to low 7 figures per year, and prenups are very often thrown out where I live. So my choices are to either risk half my income, only marry a women in my tax bracket, or don't get married. I would really prefer not to have to think about the economics of marriage, but most US laws are punitive to a higher earning spouse mostly because they're based in a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:50 PM
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I don't think so. Divorce is just a speed bump, not an obstacle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:28 PM
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Divorces can get dragged out for years here if there's a lot of arguments about the division of assets. But the divorce is still going to happen regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:25 PM
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There is no "he/she refuses to sign" here in the US. If one partner wants to divorce, there will be a divorce. The only difference is some states have a mandatory period of time where the couple must legally live separately. That's why marriage here in the US is only a superficial commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:01 AM
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Screw those people. A nice, stable, boring, plainer women sounds like someone I can trust and build a life with. If I ever download a dating app again, this going in my bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:57 PM
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That's something most of us struggle with, especially when were younger. Also pls keep in mind that a lot of people your age don't screen for high conscientiousness because they're inadvertently screening for traits that are strong indicators of low conscientiousness.
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/24 12:23 PM
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As others have said, don't do it. It won't turn out like you think it will. Separately, while his cheating is not your fault, it is your responsibility to not have people like this in your life in the first place. You need to think about what signs you could have missed that would have helped you dealing with this type of person. Low conscientiousness is directly proportional to someone's propensity to cheat.
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/24 12:01 PM
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Broken people attract broken people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:33 PM
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This might come as a surprise, but some guys prefer slightly more masculine than average women. Myself, I have a 'no princess' rule. E.g., my exwife was also a Marine, I've dated a lawyer, a detective, along with of course women from more stereotypically feminine professions like nurse and teacher). In fact, I'm going on a date later this week with a patrol officer. That doesn't mean anyone looks for a rude, crass, or aggressive woman just as I'm sure you wouldn't want that in a man. Too many wo…
/r/RedPillWomen04/02/24 09:30 PM
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The beauty standards women feel compelled to meet are all from intrasexual competition with other women. The only three things that keep me from approaching a woman anywhere are Appropriateness of the time & location She appears not open to conversation She's overweight Last woman I went up to last week was a NYPD patrol officer and she wasn't wearing makeup at the time. We have a date next Friday. The reason I went up to her? When we locked eyes, she smiled back. It really was that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:40 PM
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If he wasn't happy in a relationship I see that as a copout so one doesn't have to confront more meaningful, and likely more personal, problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:30 AM
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Should be. One of my older sisters did something similiar and we didn't talk for a couple of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:21 PM
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So why do you assume younger women will have that demeanor over older women? I think it's temperamental changes that happen as we get older, to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:36 PM
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he fact that you said it’s about a “pleasant demeanor” says a few things about you 😬 I don't know what your on about or why you need to stoop down to personal attacks & innuendo. In case it's not obvious to you, people in general and men in particular prefer partners that are not insufferable, combative, argumentative shrews.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:38 PM
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There's an old saying - "If you want to be married to an Admiral, then you need to date the Ensign". For young women, at best, they can either date potential close to their age or they can date established but older. A decent enough guy will have significantly more loyalty to someone that went through the struggles with him but is going to be considerably less loyal to a woman that waited for him at the finish line.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:22 PM
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Most men that hear this line just roll their eyes at the claim and the speaker. It really isn't about manipulation in most cases, it's really as simple as a pleasant demeanor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:12 PM
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So much this. I had a (ex)friend pull the shitty move of divorcing his wife because "she didn't make him happy anymore & she's not aging well". Every last man & woman he knew in a non-professional context (and some in a professional context) wanted nothing to do with him from that point onward. Everyone had nothing but contempt for him from that point forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:09 PM
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In general, I think it would be helpful to the interests of society if people went Dutch. I say that because the current model seems to not work for many more people than it works for. For me personally, I couldn't care less because I'm in a very fortunate situation ... but most aren't. I prefer short intro dates just as a vibe check. Not because of the costs, but because I don't want to be stuck in a prolonged date with someone I met online where the vibes aren't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:08 AM
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It certainly reads like a guy. Source : I'm a guy
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/24 11:18 PM
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I haven't raised by voice since I left the Marine Corp, so yeah. I grew up in a house where my parents never raised their voice, although I did get the belt less than a handful of times (I really deserved it). I was married for a couple years in my 20s and she never raised her voice either and she was also a Marine 🤷‍♂️ (only reason we split was her drinking issues). She gave me a stern talking to when I screwed some stuff up one time, but she never once raised her voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:50 AM
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A decent number actually. Between animal shelters, women's shelters, homeless shelters, habitat for humanity, pro bono work, volunteer rescue, etc, there really are lots of opportunities to help make the world a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:44 AM
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It is, but I firmly beleive in giving back to causes. By way of reference, I make between mid to high 6 and low 7 figures and I do AT LEAST 200 hrs of either pro bono or volunteer work each year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:42 AM
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I like being around certain women, regardless of if we're in a relationship or not. But a lot are not my cup of tea personality wise - mostly the princess, undisciplined, unruly types, or those that lack emotional regulation or are low in conscientiousness. I have no time for those types of people, let alone women I'm evaluating for relationship potential. For example, if a woman isn't active in some type of volunteer activity (regardless of if it's something I agree with), or if she ever raises…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:17 AM
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In that case, I might suggest that you look into the different types of love as the ancient Greeks described it. Every relationship changes over time, that's natural. The trick is how to keep enough of the erotic love to keep the spark alive. Others here have given you a lot of good advice, but I did want to point out that love changes as relationships progress ... it's natural. It just can't change too much .
/r/RedPillWomen14/01/24 12:15 AM
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Going from new and exciting to dishes and laundry really does put a damper on things. I'm hoping the burden of the housework is shared equally given both your employment status. If not, you're likely going to feel a certain kind of way.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/24 09:08 PM
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People lack the conflict resolution skills so they've never experienced any other resolution than ending the relationship. These same ppl get on social media and spread this disastrous message. People that lack critical thinking skills and are overly impressionable then amplify this message.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/24 08:07 PM
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It's tightly linked to the "entitlement" to sexual fidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:16 PM
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I literally just posted a reply comment in this sub about conscientiousness. What you're seeing is a strong display of low conscientiousness. I would advise you consider the totality of this man's character before you continue with the engagement & maybe have a trusted older man help you vet him.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/24 04:43 PM
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Nah, I'd say frequenting prostitutes is about the same thing that men can do that would give women the same level of ick that promiscuous women give men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:56 AM
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I always looked at the term "settling" as the process you go through when you realize you aren't perfect, they aren't perfect, and it's all ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:51 AM
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Your comment about vetting is spot on. The problem is, we don't tell young women what to vet for nor how to vet men. Neither do we tell young men what to vet for nor how to vet women. This is where a trusted older advisor comes in. It can be a father, grandfather, uncle, older brother (or analogous for young men). The key is it has to be a wise older person that you respect, of the same gender as your partner because such a confidante will be uniquely positioned to see through bullshit that we m…
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/24 01:37 AM
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They made a movie about it ... mean girls. Maybe they need a part 2. I'm not even joking when I say that if I did to a man some of the things I've seen women do to each other, I'd expect to get punched.
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 06:19 AM
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A lot of what you're seeing there is the result of social pressure from other women, aka intrasexual competition. Y'all can be down right wicked to each other sometimes. If my partner was looking disheveled, my first reaction is to help aleave some of her stress, not criticize how she looks. Backpack vs large bag? That's peer pressure all the way. Stylish? Most likely peer pressure. My lifestyle (eating habits, exercise schedule, etc) would be incompatibly with anyone not equally into fitness, s…
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/24 05:38 AM
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Men here say all the time “what do you/women bring to the table besides your pussy?” Pretty clear to me what they care about Any woman who is asked this is because it's not clear to the man how the woman sees herself fitting into a relationship. Given how dramatically women's role in society is changing, and how men are still expected to take on their traditional responsibilities, it's appropriate to ask a woman how she thinks about roles, responsibilities, etc. The phrasing about "table" is a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:26 PM
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When the bond isn't as strong now, it's harder to justify providing that level of investment into someone. And this started a death spiral for marriage as an institution
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:08 PM
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I truly think this is the only way to make it work at this point. The concept of communal property made sense when marriage was normally for life & divorce was the exception. A lot of states are moving to a presumption of shared custody and in those cases, child support is unnecessary. I can see a division of assets and spousal support not to exceed 2 years in the case of a stay at home parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 07:01 AM
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Netherlands, holland These are the same country They're not. 🤦‍♂️ It's like saying Carolina and the US are the same country. Carolina is not a country and neither is Holland. There's North Holland and South Holland, which are provinces (akin to states) of The Netherlands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 09:55 PM
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I don't understand. You think three is too high or too low? I had more than 3 before I turned 18.
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/23 06:27 AM
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For poor and middle class women, yes. Really rich and smart families often drive regular cars (at most a BMW, Lexus, etc) and don't wear aboxious/fancy clothes. Source: I worked in wealth management for high net worth individuals and families in the Northeast.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:22 PM
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Sailing. I've been "spotted" because I had sailing pics on my bio. Same with polo. I had to remove them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:19 PM
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Find a handy white collar guy? Then grab a tool belt and join him at habitat for humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:18 PM
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I'm with you. It's gaudy AF. Same as people wearing clothes or accessories that loudly advertise a fashion house.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:14 PM
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And the (non-trafficked) women that go into SW because they get to pursue a relatively fast way to make money. They could go into the trades, join the military, or a myriad of other options that most other people pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:33 PM
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Every recruiter in history coerces, but ultimately I still made the decision reasonably knowing what was expected of me and the possible consequences. The coersion doesn't negate my agency. Even at 17 when I signed, I knew full well the risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:35 AM
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I grew up in drug infested trailer parks in eastern Tennessee. A double wide was the most I had to look forward to in life. Instead, I joined the Marines and before my 19th birthday I was in the battle of Ramadi. How am I, at 18, any more or less able to consent to go to war than a 23yo woman living a middle class life in Thailand or Colombia? It's not like these women are starving or destitute. They're well informed about the decisions they're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:44 AM
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Those two guys are chumps. OP, be more mindful of your "content diet", you're polluting your mind with that garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:08 AM
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Men need to do more domestic work to offset, no argument from me there. I did all the cooking and grocery shopping & exwife did all the cleaning & laundry. Btw - no idea who is downvoting us both but fuck'em
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:59 AM
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Sugar dating Poor girl doesn't realize she's looking for sex work😳
/r/RedPillWomen22/12/23 02:52 AM
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I think we need to strengthen marriage (e.g., get rid of no-fault divorce) and/or completely redo how divorce procedures work, including getting rid of communal property in most cades but making a place in law for "registered dependent spouse". This special designation would provide protections for a mutually agreed upon stay-at-home-parent or disabled spouses. Such protections would be very similar to current laws, such as prorate division of assets and mandatory spousal support at a rate if ~2…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:21 AM
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That's ideal, but it's not always that simple. We've gutted marriage (esp with respect to spousal responsibility) & increased the cost of divorce to the point where this is an unfortunate but predictable possibility that spouses that can't afford to leave will stay in an unhappy marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:45 AM
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Hmm why don't you apply that same thought process to the countless posts from men here posting crazy statistics benefitting their victim mentality? 🤔 I specifically worded that in gender neutral language so it should be obvious to an intelligent reader that it applies in those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:19 PM
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Leader" men usually don't want "leader" women. There are those of us out there that do. My exwife was also a Marine and I date a lot of women that are also type-a. The issue is, a lot of type-a people can be assholes about it and they lack the wisdom or discernment to know when to go with the flow or how to influence indirectly instead of acting like a bull in a china shop. I call those type of people "reckless type-a" and you can tell from her clip that she's absolutely a "reckless type-a" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:09 PM
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It was higher but not egregiously so like the original study. Whenever you see statistics that are crazy like the original study, your should apply your critical thinking skills because you're likely being fed propaganda. A lot of the propagandists look for opportunities to put out reports like this in a way where if anyone scrutinizes their data or report, they won't loose too much credibility. In other words, they look for ways to intentionally make what they can later claim are "honest mistak…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:03 PM
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I think lot of this depends on the circumstances. I can see men that have been in a sexless marriages being more likely to cheat on the wife after she becomes gravely ill. I wouldn't judge them to harshly. But a man that cheats on a sick wife who has had a good relationship? Utter disdain for such a man and I'd probably cut them out of my life if they were a friend or business associate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:00 PM
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Maybe I'm weird, but as long as I don't find someone ugly then it's the non-physical things that matter most to me. Is she calm, kind, caring, wise, patient, smart, driven, just the right kind of wierd? Does she handle conflict well? Is she physically and mentally active? These things matter SOOO much more than the size of her tits or her hair style or whatever. Maybe I'm just getting older, but if she was 6ft2 or 5ft2, had gorgeous flowing hair or a pixie cut, worked as an electrician or a lawy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:44 PM
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My ex was also a Marine, so I like me a badass woman. I'm not the norm though. There are some things I'm not cool with though - too many tattoos & aggressive dog breeds are on that list. Only reason I've never got a bike it bc I don't trust myself on one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:27 AM
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If you read the article, she'd been on a downward spiral for years before the beach incident. She clearly had some kind of troubled past, but anyone that masturbates on a family beach probably does as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:21 AM
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Wow! Edit: I'm not excusing the behavior, just explaining it. Eventually, most of us figure out that it's not healthy behavior and we change. I had to go through that journey as well. 🤷‍♂️ Unfortunately, some of us don't figure that out.
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/23 01:19 PM
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I'm this guy but work in finance in NYC instead of tech in SF. Grew up dirt poor, joined the USMC, went to college & grad school, etc Here's the things you need to figure out: how conscientious is he? What are his morals? Has he exercised self-discipline in other areas if his life? The reality for men is that there's a much higher degree of "winner take all" and when wr men "make it", we have a very bad habit of taking FULL advantage of it.
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/23 03:32 AM
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I guess that depends on perspective. Economically speaking and from my point of view, HV starts at a couple million USD net worth, which you won't get in the trades until you own your own business. You can still live a good life with a partner who is a highly skilled tradesman though!
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 04:32 PM
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No offense taken! There are high-potential men in their early-mid 20s, but VERY few "high value" men in that age range and unless you went to a very elite university, you're probably never going to run into them.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 04:23 PM
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Perhaps you don't have access to men that are "HV and marriage material" because you're not at their level. Chances are you're average and should be looking for an average man to build a life with.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 03:38 PM
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If they’re not taken, I swear they’re hiding someplace. A LOT have given up. I'm in my early-mid 30s and I've made very high 6 figures for several years now, I'm in terrific physical shape, and have a stylist that helps me with my wardrobe and purchasing made-to-measure/bespoke clothes. A lot of my friends and peers at work are either married, about to be married, or have given up. I'm divorced myself and close to giving up 🤷‍♂️
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/23 03:35 PM
1

what about women who date broke losers with nothing to offer?? You guys never have a name for them Dusties
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:01 AM
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As long as my husband has food, sex, his Star Wars and someone to vent to he is a happy chappy. It really is that easy to keep an average, chill dude happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:00 AM
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Hi, yes. That was me. Had a great marriage until she self-medicate her PTSD form a deployment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:32 AM
1

Honestly speaking, if I had hundreds of girls I can fish right now right now my bed by just swiping pictures, my subconscious mind would also make a subconscious excuse that I am entitled and I DESERVE to check sexual compatibility. This is what I did before & after marriage. I regret it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:30 AM
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No, I clear very high 6 figures and have for a couple years. I've also been lifting for over 15 and routinely run half marathons. My wardrobe is either made-to-measure or bespoke and I'm just under 5ft11 (women assume I'm 6ft). I can get laid most weekends if I want, but that's not what I'm looking for. I just can't find a quality wonan and I know a lot of my peers are in the same boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:49 PM
5

Same. I live in Manhattan. It's crazy up here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:10 PM
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You compare women not being agreeable housekeepers with men being violent drunks? Yes. Nobody is claiming their equal. The posters larger point is that people have expectations and if you're not getting the results you want, i.e. mariaggable people, then it's likley because you're not meeting other people's expectations. For example, as we read your reply to this person, any intelligent person would expect that you lack the facilities to identify and comprehend the point the person is making, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:10 PM
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In Women's opinion, there's a lack of good looking men who are pursuing them FTFY In other news, female critic thinks she's the main character in everyone's life. More at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:44 PM
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No, because if you rein the middle of the ocean, you can always take it up the ass. What I mean is, your colon and lower intestines can filter out water from salt water. It's not luxury, but it will keep you alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 01:37 AM
1

I absolutely cannot handle anything other than low neuroticism or high conscientiousness. For everything else, I'm fine with someone around the middle. But those two traits are absolute dealbreakers for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:34 PM
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Commitment means nothing if you're never tempted. It is precisely BECAUSE of temptation that the commitment has value. Commitment is the willingness to put someone & something (the relationship) above our animalistic desires.
/r/RedPillWomen14/11/23 07:54 PM
2

A lot of people (on both ends of the political spectrum) lack the ability to think critically and just follow the hurd. These people scare TF put of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:27 AM
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It's entirely a status issue. I work in finance in NYC and make high six figures and I don't go anywhere near those type of women (or ppl in general). Women like that are the downfall of so many men that it's a meme at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:03 PM
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This EXACTLY what happens. It's a biological response to the emotional closeness, not a biological or conscious response to a woman hurting. I often get an erection when I'm getting my hair shampooed by my very unattractive, very lesbian hair stylist. It is what it is. Doesnt mean I'm in the mood for sex or wa t to ha e sex with her. Guys get erections all the time for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with being turned on.
/r/RedPillWomen12/11/23 07:17 PM
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There's an old saying "if you want to be married to the admiral, you have to date the ensign". I met my ex-wife when we were both Lieutenants. She was my ride or die. Unfortunately, she turned to alchohol after a rough deployment and wasn't willing to get help :(. I'm in my mid 30s and while I don't personally care how much a woman makes, it would be foolish of me to marry anyone making less than roughly 75% of what I make.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:41 AM
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Like I’m 31 and feel like I should be making close to 200k to even be considered That's ridiculous bro. 90k is just fine anywhere in the US and is great in a low-cost of living area.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:36 AM
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It's amazing how few problems you have when you stop dating shit people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:29 AM
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I guess you’re right bad habits aren’t attractive for either gender Bingo 👍
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/23 06:02 AM
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Sounds to me that you're a victim of the feminist ideology that tries to equate femininity with weakeness, which is utter BS. The first step is to understand what feminine strength looks like compared to masculine strength. Me personally, I see being able to fix things around the house or your car as a plus. The only things I saw in your message was the drinking/smoking and I worry you've adopted some of toxic traits like being combative and you're labeling that as masculine as an excuse.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/23 12:42 AM
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If it wasn't for the courts & divorce laws here in NYC, I'd date women that made significantly less than me if I found them interesting ... especially if they had an altruistic job or an interesting trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:49 AM
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Nobody should be consuming their content. They're ass clowns.
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/23 03:07 AM
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Shes more likely limiting her dating pool and her male counterparts are more than likely not and enjoying the bigger dating pool that they currently have. This is exactly it right here. Compared to the men she'd consider physically attractive, she has a MUCH smaller dating pool because she more dramatically limits based on economic and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:04 AM
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So she’s basically chasing the top 0.01% of men, along with hundreds of thousands of other women Ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:58 AM
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Yes. People drop clues all the time if you know what to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:55 AM
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Either they're choosing to miss the point or they lack the capability to understand it. Accountability is kryptonite
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:53 AM
1

That would be it. Dog parks in urban areas are very crowded and a great place to meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:29 AM
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Society expects white people not to say racist shit even when there are no black people around to hear I save my racist jokes for when I'm around my black/latin/asian friends. Otherwise, wtf is the point? If others have never worked a blue collar job, this might not make sense to them - it's a willingness to open up and vulnerable. Real racists are saying racist jokes when they're only with their own race, that's a no-go. Of course, if ppl aren't cool with that shit, you cut it out. I'd only jok…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:17 AM
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This is unfortunately true. I have friends that fly women out or fly to them, but let's be real - it's just a high-end booty call most times. Much better off taking it slower IMO
/r/RedPillWomen30/10/23 04:53 AM
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I dunno man, I've met some cool people chilling in some random piazza in Milan and Cordoba. Met a famous fashion designer in Milan (I think he was hitting on me) and a famous guitarist in Granada. In Granada, I was just chilling with some folks playing flamenco and sticking out as being way to pale to be a native. My guy started talking to me in English about why I learned to play flamenco guitar.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:48 AM
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You must not live in an urban area.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:33 AM
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There is very little to NO indication in advance that somebody can base these determinations off of. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you have next to zero street smarts. fr, you're a con man's wet dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:50 AM
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I REALLY worry about how you phrased this. Nobody is blaming abuse victims for being a victim. But they are being blamed for not exercising due care in selecting who to bring into their life. Most successful men at some point in our lives have had to recognize shitty men & get them out of our lives. If we didn't grow up rich & we don't get shitty men out of our lives, that's the path to either prison, the hospital, or an early grave. What we're advocating is that women show the same level of dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 03:43 AM
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That's fine but not relevant. If he wants you to move in with him, that doesn't mean he owes you an allowance. If you were uprooting and moving across the country, then he should help out with basics until you get situated. If you're moving across town, I wouldn't even be asking. When my wife moved in with me before we were married (and after), we split shared expenses roughly 50/50. We made pretty much the exact same thing (both Lts in the USMC), so this was a non-issue for us. But the idea of …
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/23 07:12 PM
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You're not married. Asking a man you're not married to for money reeks of desperation and it's very low class. I'd break up with a woman for even asking. It tells me you don't have your life together. Be MUCH more mindful of the content you're consuming. It seems like it might be damaging you.
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/23 05:29 PM
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You're not married. Asking a man you're not married to for money reeks of desperation and it's very low class. I'd break up with a woman for even asking. It tells me you don't have your life together.
/r/RedPillWomen28/10/23 05:28 PM
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Until you find some dude with a shame or small penis humiliation kink, lol "You think it's small? Yeah, tell me how small it is"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:24 PM
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I think it very much depends on the man & his life experiences. The reality of life is VERY different for men than it is for women. It's a lot more "you're on your own" and "winner take all". There's an old saying "if you want to be married to an admiral then you have to date the ensign". What that means is, a significant number of men who "made it" in terms of athleticism, financial, and social success will be SIGNIFICANTLY more loyal to a woman that believed in them before they made it rather …
/r/RedPillWomen18/10/23 12:34 AM
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It got in the way of finding Mrs. Right. I grew up poor, joined the Marines, deployed to Ramadi, & then they sent me to finish my college degree. I was in great shape and I had enough money to not look poor AF so holy hell was I wild in college. I ended up getting married later to another Marine, but she developed a severe case of alcoholism for which she wasn't willing to get help. We divorced & I went wild after I went back for my MBA. So yeah, it really got iny way.
/r/RedPillWomen17/10/23 11:51 PM
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I'm a man with a very high body count and I wish I didn't sleep around. I think you have so be at least slightly psychopathic for a high body count to not negatively impact your ability to pair bond. Modern psychological clinical studies show that just like women are more likley to have BPD and to be high in neuroticism, men are more likely to be psychopathic.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/23 05:27 PM
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Rightfully so. Anyone with such insufficient self-control that they even ask the question is not someone you want to be in a relationship with.
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/23 03:17 PM
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I do regional BJJ and used to do regional MMA tourneys, and I've gotten my ass kicked by shorter guys. If you take a look at some of the smaller Olympic-style lifters (170lbs ish), I guarantee you they lift way more than guys with much more impressive physiques. The only people that I see worry about size is people who haven't done anything real. I guarantee you that top ranked heavyweight boxer (Tyson in his prime fighting at 5ft10 at 220) would beat TF out of any strongman even though many if …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:10 AM
1

Honestly, it’s time we should say fuck how they feel. If I don't respect someone, I don't care too much about what they think. If I don't care about someone, I don't care too much about how they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:35 AM
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I saw this kinda stuff and figured it out in HS. I specifically remember thinking "I need to force myself to be more if an asshole". I remember exactly when and where I had the epiphany. Joining the Marines only hastened the transformation that was already underway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:08 PM
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Easiest way would be to develop enough self-confidence about yourself that you wouldn't feel threatened by porn. This really is the best answer. Here are some other helpful facts: If someone is watching porn without the goal of having an orgasm, they have a problem. If someone can't orgasm without porn, they have a problem. If their masturbate so often that they're not interested in sex with a partner, regardless porn is involved, most likely there are significant unresolved relationship problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:16 PM
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I would breakup with someone for even asking the question.
/r/RedPillWomen14/09/23 03:19 PM
1

In the case with Logan, his opponent is using Nina to get insider Logan's head. No more, no less. As for why this is tolerated by men, shaming tactics are used to reinforce norms of behavior. Men's perspective on promiscuous women is roughly equivalent to how women would respond to a men that frequent sex workers. We shame people that routinely commit what we consider anti-social acts. Can you imagine someone saying "oh, it was just my serial-killer phase" or "oh, it was just my serial rapist ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:42 PM
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The issue is if they have adequate amount of intense exercise. There are a lot of people that delude themselves into thinking that showing up to the gym and not breaking a sweat counts as sufficiently intense exercise. Those people are just delulu.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:03 PM
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A lot of people don't understand the difference between fault and responsibility and that's where the disagreement is. Are you at fault if someone cheats on you? Not really. Do you have a responsibility to yourself to vet potential partners and make sure your values align? Of course. The problem is, too many people don't vet partners for conscientiousness and later get blindsided in some other way, just top hold their hands up like they never could have seen it coming. There's a saying in Tennes…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:11 AM
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I hope you're right, but demographics are usually tied to economics. Just take a look at how social programs and national debts are both funded with the assumption of population growth and economic growth. You take either one down and, unless you have a brilliant strategy, the other will follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:42 PM
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Is it possible to ever look cute with my features? Yea, by smiling more. I know women hate to hear that, but there are few things more sexually appealing to a man than a woman in a normal sundress smiling at you.
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/23 02:37 PM
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1) Do better at weeding out assholes 2) You should really only worry about the opinion of people you respect. So don't worry about what assholes think.
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/23 02:32 PM
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Where demographic contraction causes an economic contraction, which causes further demographic contraction, etc. Think of it as a negatively reinforcing spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:21 AM
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Biggest issue is avoiding a doom loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:59 AM
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This is all correct and compounded by the hypergamous snd nateruslistic nature of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:58 AM
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If the non-maternal woman performed in a "parent like role", they could be responsible for child support in some states and that's crazy. Seeing how the definition of parent gets twisted in family courts is why men should never date or marry a single mother. Just too damm risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:51 AM
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We will not survive as a country if we stop reproducing. That's exactly where were headed and I'm strangely ok with it. We made some critical social mistakes and we'll have to pay the price. It's like were on demographic death row and I've just come to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:40 AM
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My exwife and I met in the Corps, both Lt's. We both grew up fairly religious - her much more so than I. We never had any fidelity problems, despite deployments and all. Her unwillingness to get treated for PTSD is what ultimately did us in. If you screen appropriately, you can a lot if good people in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:40 PM
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I'm torn. Most of the cases I've seen are where both partners are abusive and neither of them own their shit. Short of physical abuse, almost every time I've seen a partner being "not happy" and leaving a relationship, they have materially contributed to their own situation and lack the self awareness and skills to solve their issues.
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/23 07:23 PM
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You said the quiet part out loud. I also find it very interesting how economics so strongly shape a woman's perspective of what good is. I'm financially well off, early-mid 30s, lifting for over 15 years now and half marathons for 5, 5ft10, and above average in looks. In short, I'm very fortunate. I've gone through several fuckboy phases, but only ever cheated once. And why shouldn't I? Other than my slightly above average height and good bone structure, I've had to work my ass off to get where …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:58 PM
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Pay like $2500/month income for having a child and some extra per every children etc Hungary and a couple other countries have tried similiar approaches and it doesn't move the needle enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:44 PM
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Immigration is the only reason why we aren't already shrinking. All immigration does is rob less economically advanced societies of their smartest and hardest working people. Great for us, not so great for them. Japan is essentially an ethno state and, unless they change that, they'll never be able to absorb immigrants well. Spain is not in a great spot economically and a significant portion of the southern half of the country is going to become difficult to sustain as the climate changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:40 PM
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Want, probably not. The issue is we need to have more children to fend off a demographic and economic doom spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:33 PM
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The true reason is that you have choice today. In past you married someone because you have to. This is the main issue. What this means is that modern western societies cannot survive. Socialized attempts to create economic incentives or subsidies to have children haven't worked well enough anywhere they've been tried. Unless someone comes up with something brilliant and compelling, societies will have to choose between demographic and economic collapse or curtailing women's freedoms. Neither of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:30 PM
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Yes and your partner will blame you for not losing the weight fast enough. These men you're referring to aren't very bright. If you have mediocre fitness going into pregnancy, you'll have terrible fitness after pregnancy. Every single woman I know that works out at a reasonably high level of intensity shed the weight very quickly. However, I know a lot of women that go to the gym and hardly break a sweat, and of course they're not able to shed the weight. The fact that their husbands aren't awar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:41 PM
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If we want to move towards serial monogamy as a norm, then we have to be willing to update family law to reflect the temporary nature of marriages or else accept that marriage is an obsolete institution that's incompatible with serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:56 AM
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Not only would I, but I did. My exwife has a substantially higher sex drive than I did and the compromise that we came up with was I would always "help out where I can". What form that took depended a lot on how much energy I had. That might be full on sex, it might be just oral or manual (with or without toys), or it might be me just holding her while she took care of it herself. But I would never turn her down. I don't think she ever felt like she was forcing/coercing/guilting me or anything -…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:10 PM
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As long as she's in very good shape and takes care of herself, the only physical thing that's a hard no for me is a recessed chin. Other than that, as long as I don't find her unattractive, there are more important thing to me. I've equally loved a runway model and an average looking police detective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:39 PM
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What is going on in their head? Nothing and that's the problem. It's an emotional reaction due to past trauma, they haven't learned how to control their emotional responses, nor have they done the healing work. How do I make sense of this? I don't. Too much drama. I just bring the relationship to an end as peaceful as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:51 PM
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The social contract for young men has been breaking and it's been a downward spiral since globalization started. I'm a millennial and saw what my father, uncles, and grandfathers went through. A lot of us just don't care anymore.I doubt I'll get remarried myself even though I'm well off. There's a contagious nihilism among a lot of men right now.
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/23 02:56 AM
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I would consider dating but I would never marry. I beleive the primary purpose of marriage is to provide a stable environment for child rearing. If we were a great match, we could remain long term partners if we were both past the age of having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:47 PM
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Too much, too soon. You need to make permanent lifestyle changes to keep it off. Short-term crash diets don't help you keep the weight off and, in the amount you're talking about, will cause malnutrition which will lead to a range of potential health problems. Read up on the section "what happens to the body during malnutrition" on this page: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22987-malnutrition
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/23 06:10 AM
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The responsibility to contribute equally, or be willing to be the primary earner. If feminism encouraged women to take on that responsibility, would not hypergamy diminish?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:34 PM
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The hypergamous issue is something I wasn't thinking about. I don't see that aspect changing anytime soon, but that's perhaps the right issue to focus on. If feminists were as focused on responsibilities as the are privileges, I'm sure this could change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:00 PM
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Turns out the bar was in Westboro?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:37 PM
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I find it absolutely fascinating that the human race crumbles when women are more educated. I think that's oversimplify the situation. It's not that educated women MUST have lower birth rates, it's just the the two are correlated. Correlation does not imply causation and all that. It seems to me that the cause is more directly tied to lower marriage rates & increased marriage ages. Not only that, but delayed/lower marriage rates put increased pressure on housing demand, which has raised costs. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:11 PM
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Like a lot of things, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/23 02:06 PM
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Provider-types don't want s boss-babe and you're giving that type of energy here.
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/23 01:23 PM
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I don't agree that women are fearful for walking around at night in a city. They can do everything a man can do, even join the infantry, so there's no reason to be afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:04 AM
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I mean, that's the fault of those men marrying broke women. I don't personally care how much a woman makes, but with divorce laws the way they are, you gotta be a bit slow to marry too far down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:01 AM
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Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Bundling multiple categories like this is disingenuous AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:03 AM
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I've stopped with the hookups and fwb. It's LTR or nothing for me. She has to want kids, be physically fit (I've been lifting for over 15yrs, got good #s, and run half marathons), roughly in the top 10% of intelligence, calm, caring, kind, patient, be roughly on par with me economically speaking, medium-high degree of adventurousness, high in coonscientiousness, low in neuroticism, medium-to-high in openness, and somewhere around the median in agreeableness (I don't want a pushover)I don't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:15 AM
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trig for finding angles for making things with your hands, or how tall of a ladder you need to reach something calculus for finding out how much soda/beer/whatever can fit in a cup lots of schools are getting rid of PE and recess for younger kids
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:05 PM
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School used to be much more geared towards young boys, mostly when it was mostly private, segregated by gender, and much more adversarial/competitive. That doesn't mean how it used to be was objectively a better form of education though. As for how to change it, first we need to make it easier for men to teach, make instruction more practical instead of just theoretical (especially true for math and science), bring back recess and gym classes, dramatically increase the opportunities for very sop…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:26 PM
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Both things can be true and probably are. The education system in the US is heavily gendered and you'd have to be willfully ignorant or very slow to not see how that negatively impacts young boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:51 PM
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This is one of the most ignorant and heartless comments I've seen on this sub in all the years I've been here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:44 PM
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There are two sides to this situation. I fully agree that it's a shame that a lot of men aren't interested in women as friends. I have some friends that I have less than zero interest in dating. The other side of this is that my standarda for friendship are a lot different than my standards for a casual relationship or fling. The latter is more geared towards looks and the former towards personality, morals, sense of humor, etc. A relationship is both of those. So if I bounce because you're take…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:03 PM
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Nobody wants someone who comes across as desperate. I've recently stopped dating, but as someone in their early-mid 30s that dated women in their late 20s to early 30s, a good number "reeked of desperation" as you put it. If not that, then they were often a "boss b!tch" etc. Not interested in either. I really think it's best for people to settle down in their early-mid 20s so they can grow together. That when I first got married and we'd still be together if she was willing to go into treatment …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:35 AM
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There's a line between 'very interested and 'desperate'. I'm very much into the former but not the later. She desperately wants to date you. She will cancel any plans with her friends to make herself available for you. If I was really into someone, I'd do this too. It doesn't seem desperate to me. Laughs at all your jokes no matter what. I can easily tell real vs fake enthusiasm. Fake anything is a huge turnoff. Buys YOU stuff. Could be a very sweet gesture if it was appropriate for the stage of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:37 PM
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100% agree. I see that should have been "couldn't go below mid 20s"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:28 PM
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Am 31 and l could never see myself dating a woman younger than 24/23 I'm a few years older and while I can certainly appreciate the beauty of women of all ages, I would say I couldn't find myself attracted to anyone under mid-to-late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 10:25 PM
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Bitter? Not really. I had a ton of fun in my 20s (when I wasn't married). But once 30 hit, I realized that a lot of women my age are often pushy to get married, if they haven't already. I understand why they may be like that, but the sense of desperation some exude is really unattractive - some what like a 20-somethink broke dude. With OLD, I tend to date women in their mid to late 20s because of that. If I meet them in person, I'll date up to about 35, but I'm leaving if she gets pushy. I've se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:05 AM
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They both come, in part, from a combination of poor decisions and poor self discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:15 PM
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I mean, I know I'm far more attractive in my mid 30s than I was in my mid 20s. A huge part of that is confidence and having the money to pay for better hair stylist and much better clothes, mostly made to measure and some bespoke. I'm obviously the same height but the years of gains from lifting accumulated nicely. Very minimal skin/sun damage and I have a juvenile hair line, which is very abnormal for a man over 30, and no gray. I think the biggest thing is the swagger more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:27 PM
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or maybe consider... chubby is actually attractive. It certainly isn't to most guys. As nearest I can tell, the closest equivalent for women is a guy that's 30, lives with his parents, and has minimal career prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:23 AM
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The average guy in the US is chubby, just like the average girl. I don't see why the average guy shouldn't give the average woman a chance. As for me, an average guy - I'm 5ft10 (about avg), about average looks, can run a half marathon at the drop of a hat, and been lifting for over 15 years. In terms of fitness, I'm certainly above average. Also above average in terms of wealth and income. A woman would have to really impress me in terms of her wisdom, intelligence, grace, and personality for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:18 AM
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I put "masculine" in quotes because when I hear the phrase masculine woman, I don't see what these folks are describing. When Red Pillers and the Manosphere describe a woman as being masculine, they usually mean loud-mouthed, rude, combative, overly focused on career, difficult, mean-spirited, uncooperative, domineering. I'm with you. It's problematic that they use "masculine" to define these characteristics. I'm a very masculine man and I'm neither "loud-mouthed, rude, combative, ... , difficul…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:12 AM
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I’d show her how silly it is to let some insignificant person ruin her day If someone hasn't learned that by around 21, I doubt they ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:19 AM
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If I saw a woman I'm dating get road rage, we're done. Sooner or later, that same inability to control herself will result in problems for herself & partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:04 AM
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Bravo. This is exactly the kind of behavior you'd expect to see from someone that is willing to act like an equal in a relationship. What that also means is the man better be pulling his weight in other areas around the house after marriage. Perhaps most importantly, this also tells me that you're probably a very rational person and are much more likely to have good conflict resolution skills. That's incredibly important for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 01:44 PM
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Is this puge week or something? WTH is with these body posts? Not what I'm here for. Has this sub jumped the shark?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:27 PM
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Which woman is nicer/kinder? Do any of them lift, run, do BJJ, or crossfit? Does she do volunteer work? These are all way more important to me. If you're asking about preferences, probably top row but it matters very little to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:53 AM
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Hell no. In fact, it might be a slight positive if anything. I've dated plenty of women in male dominated fields. My ex wife and I met when we were in the Marine Corps. Some other examples of women I've dated in male dominated fields include - a police detective, a surgeon, a lawyer, someone else in finance, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:53 PM
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I wouldn't call myself red pill, but I'm divorced and in my mid 30s. I've done ENM, had a couple of fuckboy phases. I've been only interested in monogamy for some time now and I don't see that changing. Marriage is tough though. The entire thing is broken and so are the courts. I'd only risk it if "everything lined up". I live in a liberal state and wouldn't so much as date a single mother - "in loco parentis" is absolutely crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:54 PM
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Met my exwife in the gym in the Corps. I don't care either way about the aesthetics, but I like that we can share physical activities together & the long term mental/physical benefits are great. Her ego boost can be good when it's balanced with humility and wisdom. Otherwise, she's out there acting like a 25yo gymbro ... which can be insufferable. I don't like leggings so it's whatever. As long as she's not wearing a tank top with no bra or just a sports bra, I don't care. To me, the "sports bra…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:47 PM
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In most relationships I've been in or seen, romantic love entails things men do for women. Such one sides arrangements are tiring. Over time, the vast majority of long (15yr+) relationships I've seen evolve to a more mature, companionate love with romance sprinkled in. But romantic love is no longer the primary mode of expression. There's a saying I like "love is an action, a choice, not a feeling"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:36 PM
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Never.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/23 05:49 PM
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Are you sure there's nothing I can do to change that? As someone that used to behave like the guy you're sleeping with, there is nothing you can do to change things. That kind of change has to come from within.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/23 05:47 PM
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I've read the rest of your comments here and no, it's not acceptable. I always advise people, man or woman, to end a relationship if attacks get personal or physical, regardless of what led to the incident. Anyone that violates these boundaries lacks self control, emotional regulation, communication skills, and conflict resolution skills. I've ended 6+ month relationships for FAR less.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/23 05:43 PM
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It's more like if he was playing recreational football with some guys who otherwise made questionable life choices and were posting pictures online with all of them hanging out with thots after the game. Having boundaries is not controlling. This is just controlling language to prevent men from having reasonable boundaries. If you don't agree to the boundaries, then leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:12 AM
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What's interesting to me is the backlash. It just proves how toxic and unaccountable some people can be when it comes to respecting men's boundaries. Jonah wasn't controlling in the slightest. He's clearly established reasonable boundaries that she wasn't comfortable with, so he ended the relationship. He's allowed to establish boundaries, she's allowed to disagree with them, and either are allowed to end the relationship over it. The only disrespectful thing going on here was her posting this a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:17 PM
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Yeah, and she was amazing. Until a bad deployment and then the alcoholism 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:35 PM
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Compare this to this If you've never really known boomer or genX men as friends and known younger millenial or genZ men as friends, it can be hard to see the differences but the differences in how they handle their emotions is stark.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:06 PM
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You really need to compare what's acceptable behavior in men now vs, say the 60s. Most men, especially millennial men compare to boomers, have come a long way, especially when it comes to the standard we hold ourselves to. Women not so much. Compare the norms around violence for men (physical violence) vs women (physical and social or emotional violence). Across the generations, men gave been putting in the work while women are getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:35 PM
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I'm not a social scientist - I can't provide any evidence other than my experience talking with guys I know. Of the straight guys I know in a relationship, very few are truly happy with their partner and it's mostly about wife's/gf's attitude or behavior. Of the straight guys I know that are looking for a relationship, very few are fortunate enough to find women worth committing to. Part of that is the women and a large part of that is the legal system. I'm certainly in this category. I know a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:23 PM
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Struggling to have sex? Some are, some aren't. Struggling to find and build a meaningful and satisfying relationship? Most are. Struggling to feel connected to society at large and give a shit about it? Most are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:04 PM
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I didn't downvote you. You asked what type is a hard yes. Confident, patient, strong, feminine women. One of the greatest lies that some women have seem to have been told is that femininity and strength/confidence are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:14 AM
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Met my ex-wife in the Marines. She had feminine strength - think like "Zena, Warrior Princess" or the queen from 300 🥵 (edit: hawt)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:47 AM
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I think their point was a bit more nuanced - weak minded fools are easily influenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:31 AM
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Emancipated women ... take responsibility This is why I prefer a certain type of woman. Princess types are a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:05 AM
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Emancipated women ... take responsibility This is why I prefer a certain type of woman. Princess types are a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:05 AM
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The "standard of living" argument is crap. Imagine saying "your honor, my standard of living was having my balls drained before work ever day. So I'm gonna need her to provide for that same standard of living". Sounds kinda stupid, doesn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:03 AM
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I sperate sexy vs beautiful/attractive. I can objectively look at people of a wide age range and say "I think they're attractive" but it's not sexual in nature. I'm in my mid 30s and I don't find women younger than late 20s sexy, maybe 25 if they act a bit older than their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:44 PM
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Is a frog's ass water tight?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:38 PM
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Yes, of course. I make my opinion based on people's actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:30 PM
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You will never know when a man will replace you for a younger woman. Ahhh, ya kinda do. Every man to a T that I've seen do this, we boys saw it coming a mile away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:32 AM
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Here's a guys opinion - as long as you're in shape and you do at least an average job with skin, hair & clothes styling, it's probably not your looks that are holding you back. There are two categories of "good looking" for how men perceive women - hot/sexy and beautiful. Hot/sexy is all about sex appeal and is what you see jn media. It's a signal to our lizard brain that she wants to fuck someone. This is not what good men look for in a gf or wife, even if it's blasted all over media. Sex sells…
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/23 03:18 AM
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10 or so states in the US have paid family leave. Where I live, it's 12 weeks paid but the pay cap is pretty low - around $1,100 per week maximum if I remember correctly. By way of comparison, the average rent where I live, is close to $4000/month for a 1 bedroom apartment. So this amount cannot be used by itself. The assumption here is that you're dealing with a 2 income household and you're not living paycheck to paycheck. I find that's very common here in the US unfortunately. It's possible t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:12 PM
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The issue is that none of those pro-natal programs have made beyond a minor improvement in TFR when they've been tried in other countries. The only thing that seems to work is traditional cultures & values, primarily religious based. If we went back to an early form of feminism, where women were allowed to work but weren't expected to work, then this might all work out. Otherwise, get ready for the economic collapse!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:24 PM
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It's not you, it's the guys you're choosing to entertain. Have you heard the saying "you can't turn a hoe into a housewife"? Well, the same goes for us men. On the other hand, very HVM will only consider committing to women they perceive as high value. If they are relatively unrestricted sexually, they won't mind hooking up with most women. I've lived that lifestyle as a guy. It's ultimately not satisfying.
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/23 06:50 PM
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I cannot fathom not splitting discretionary budget 50/50 with a SAHP. Having a 3rd party give them a salary is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:15 PM
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Tried it a couple of times and it's not worth the problems. It's almost never going to be "y'alls family", it's going to be "her family". Too many of the negative responsibilities & not enough of the healthy/good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:43 PM
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Be willing to accept some imperfections in yourself and others. Learn how to have constructive disagreements instead of destructive fights. Learn how to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:26 PM
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100% with you on this. I've dated a few women that have skin sensitivities and can't shave or wax or anything. All I ask is to keep things trimmed and tidy, which is what I do as well. There are way more important things than having to deal with razor bumps and all that.
/r/RedPillWomen18/05/23 12:12 AM
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Run of the mill partner, no. The woman married (who no longer exists), I'd have given her anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:23 AM
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Well, I'm in my early 30s, so no. I'm much more interested in what she's done than family wealth. Along that same line of thinking, if she's in an altruistic field, then I don't really care too much about her economic status, provided she's good with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:20 AM
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I do, but as you can see, I'm not the norm. I won't commit to a woman that's not close to my economic status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:06 PM
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I'm a very masculine man and I want either a warrior-queen or really smart woman. I met my exwife in the Marines & she was a bit of both. None of these type would: devote herself to being submissive to a man and support him in his life goals, will never argue, disagree, or say no; thinks men are better than women so of course he's always right, will do and be whatever he wants because she knows that's her place, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:54 AM
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I'm going to piggy back on this to say there's a HUGE difference between beautiful and hot&sexy. Beauty is more an issue of effort, presentation, and demeanor and none of that fades.
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/23 08:17 PM
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Very fair
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:35 AM
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And for the men, would you expect your woman to pay 50/50 on the bills if you were both working full time with no children, even if you were making 100k to her 60k? She needs to contribute equally, so yes. I also don't date women who aren't financially compatible, so that avoids a lot of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:34 AM
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To some degree you're right for the reasons you and others have mentioned. On the other hand, I think a lot of guys are forming the opinion that society offers them a bad deal, especially when it comes to marriage. Subsequently, a lot simply aren't looking to get married or sometimes not even be in a committed relationship. Just to emphasize - I'm describing what I think these men perceive not what others think about the situation. We can argue forever about why these men feel that way, but I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:30 PM
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It's almost like people would be better off if they waited for a committed relationship to have sex?!? Shocker. I say that as a reformed fuckboy - so at least I acknowledge I'm a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:08 PM
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My boyfriend said, “yea its just hard to think that it’s going to be the same person forever”. That's not good nor defensible
/r/RedPillWomen19/04/23 10:43 PM
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I really wish men understood how degrading and depressing it feels for a woman to always feel like they’re not enough. It doesn't seem like you understand this from a man's perspective. The fact that someone might be objectively better looking than our partner does NOT mean we think she's not enough. My exwife was not the most physically attractive women I've dated or been with, but I wanted her physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually.
/r/RedPillWomen19/04/23 08:08 PM
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The message was not that you aren't enough. I really wish more women understood this. Testosterone is one hell of a drug, but our love for our partner is what keeps testosterone in check.
/r/RedPillWomen19/04/23 06:43 PM
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Not with the 2A in the US. You'd think the cartels are bad? You'd have it much worse with a bunch of vet bros & younger men, let alone people leaving AD and the reserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:59 PM
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The problem isn't with boys, they're the victims here. The problem is the education system needs to be redesigned, probably from the outside, be compatible with what boys need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:55 PM
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We need a big old war with a draft and to lose 50% or so of our men, thin the herd a bit, make the remaining men more valuable. Short of the their country getting invaded, you really think draftable age men would show up? Especially in the US with the 2A?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:54 PM
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Imagine if thats how men responded when there was war. “Let them invade, rape and kill our women, why do we have to be forced to fight?” Short of an invasion - do you really think young men of draft age would show up if a draft started? I certainly don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:25 PM
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I certainly have the ability to provide for a family but I want a partner, a peer. Because of current family law, my standards include her needing to be on my level economically. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't care as much about her financial situation. Also - I really worry about how you seem to put femininity in a rather constraining bucket. I see plenty of strong feminine women who can also be soft when it's appropriate. I've also seen plenty of REALLY strong men in my life who can be cari…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:51 PM
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I actually am only interested in long-term at this point. Bouncing bn short term relationships is exhausting. Everyone tells me that my standards are too high though. Maybe I'll get go back to considering short-term at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:57 AM
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Hot/sexy is attractive to our lizard brain, but cute/pretty (or beautiful) is more attractive to our hearts & minds. So in my experience, your assumption that we all want a relationship with a hot/sexy woman isn't right. I'd much rather date or be in a relationship with a woman that's beautiful, pretty, or cute rather than a woman that's hot/sexy. All else being equal, especially in terms of physical fitness, I'd also rather hookup with a woman that's beautiful/pretty/cute. I've had enough sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:43 AM
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No. I'm objectively better looking than average & never purposefully found myself entangled with a woman that has a partner. I've had the opportunity, but I just chalk that up to people of low morals. I don't think that's based on gender. So no, my looks and ease of having relations with women (to cheat or otherwise) has nothing to do with how I view women. What does impact my perception of women is how a surprising number don't take accountability for allowing themselves to get played when they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:49 PM
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Should you be teaching women also how height, wallet and dick size are not the most important shit wh ? yep
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:19 PM
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That's like saying "until women call out other women for dressing slutty, men will never take grape seriously"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:54 AM
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I would be taller than a 5’9 guy in shoes. That would be emasculating. I feel sorry for you. You're so lost and you're not headed in a good direction. Your height does not emasculate a man but your attitude about your height sure turns us off. I've dated women above 6ft and I'm 5ft10, a marine combat vet (infantry type) with my first deployment being Ramadi, I do regional MMA and BJJ, and I've been lifting for over 15 years (we're close to the same age). The only women I've ever met that intimid…
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/23 07:28 PM
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I wouldn't say they don't care, but statistically speaking, a relationship is surprisingly more likely to survive male infidelity than female infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:47 PM
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The cost increase due to mandating the test is less than coat increase due to inflation. The argument about cost is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:34 AM
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A lot of guys I know just get the paternity test done behind the mother's back. It's just a cheek swab. What the mother doesn't know about can't hurt her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:32 AM
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It doesn't have to. When you do a paternity test, you don't have to record the DNA sequences, you just have to compare two results and then discard the bio material and DNA sequence information. This is how it works now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:28 AM
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Why do you think it would lead to a "much" higher homicide rate for pregnant women? I really don't think it would be a significant increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:25 AM
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The very fact that women will generally not date down in terms of socio-economics status proves your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:14 AM
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My exwife was my best friend. We met in the USMC and had very similiar beliefs, goals, attitudes, etc. I cannot imagine staying in a relationship with a partner I don't genuinely like. However, there are a lot of women out there that I'm physically attracted to but wouldn't genuinely like as a partner. I think most people, men or women, can relate to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:09 PM
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I'm 5ft10 and women and plenty of women have told me I'm too short as well. I think it's hilarious given how women use it as a proxy for ability to physically protect them. I've been doing amateur/regional MMA & BJJ tourneys for over a decade and I'm a vet (Marine 0311 & 0302) with multiple combat deployments. Obviously, these women don't know that but they equally don't have a clue about what being a physical protector entails either and I don't think they care to learn either because that's wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:51 AM
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Yes. If you have so much anxiety that you can't handle people approaching you in a respectful manner, then you need to be medicated and under professional supervision in an inpatient facility that has padded walls and doesn't allow shoe laces. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:15 PM
2

Do I find them them sexually attractive, yes. Would we have compatible lifestyles? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:31 PM
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It's hard realizing that the girls that you want are having fun casual sex. But not ever picking you for it. I feel for ya man, I really do. If it makes you feel any better, and this is toxic AF, a lot of us who can get casual sex absolutely string women along and otherwise manipulate them. The plus side, if there is one, is that these emotionally damaged women are easier for you to spot because they're complaining about "all men"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:00 PM
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I'd say men aren't intimidated by women. However, most of us were raised with a mindset to never be a burden to others. So if we're not "sure enough" that we're not going to be a burden by approaching, then many of us likely won't. That sure enough threshold is different for every guy though. I enjoy chatting with strangers, so mine is fairly low but for other men, the threshold can be very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:20 AM
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I fail to see what Preach's wife has anything to do with the validity of his points.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:36 AM
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If F&F. So do you really need to see it 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:34 AM
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Same. They're a pair of fuck nuggets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:34 AM
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Nobody with half a brain thinks highly of F&F. They're a couple of fuck nuggets. Unfortunately, they have a point once in a while. But I have zero interest in listening to the preponderance of garbage that comes out of their mouthes just to catch the odd nugget of insight. Edit: I just came across a clip where one of them was saying that if it wasn't for men, the country would be invaded and the women would be turned into slaves. From a historical context, he's absolutely right. While I don't se…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:32 AM
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I'm 100% with you that FNF are a pair of chumps, the women aren't fully representative of all women, and the women he invites on aren't prepared. However, some of the points they bring up are accurate even if they're poorly delivered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:01 AM
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When it comes to first dates, I pick up the check. And I try to make it clear to them if I’m interested and would like to see them again. I also make it clear to them that if they don’t feel similarly, no hard feelings. I do the same thing. If she's not able to ask me on a second date, after a successful first date, then I know she's much more likely to be a "cherry picking" feminist type.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:06 AM
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Nothing, just enjoy the decline.. From what I can tell, a surprising number of men are giving up on society. Men like this will not defend society (fight in a war fornit) and they are significantly more likely to commit violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:44 AM
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Why shouldn’t we be a “boss bitch”? Because it's entirely possible to be a "boss" without being a "bitch".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:56 PM
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Your definition of a good marriageable women seems to not be what young men & boys want and not what motivates them. Men have been pointing this out for decades, but women, and feminists in particular, keep pressing forward with the "boss bitch" approach. What your seeing is a collective "fuck it" from young men and boys because we now have an overly feminized society and education system, neither of which provides sufficient support for males. Subsequently, 45% of women are going to be single a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:35 PM
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No, men just have a much bigger impact when they do commit violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:01 AM
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Generally speaking, men do a much better job controlling physical violence than women do social and emotional violence. It's very common to see men shield women from physical violence and relatively unheard of for women to shield men from other forms of violence (social, emotional, etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:37 AM
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A surprising number of the younger guys I know have checked out. There was always the oddball when I was younger, but with the younger generation it seems much more pronounced. I think it's the com ined effects of social media and 4th wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:17 PM
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It's not so much not wanting to date women my age as much as it is that fewer women my age are: . Physical fit *. Childless and *fully capable and desirous of having children As for my other criteria, women under 25 aren't a good match based on my experience (life stage, maturity, etc). So I wouldn't automatically dismiss women in their 30s but I'd prefer women 25-28.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:48 AM
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What I've found is that there is a nugget of truth in most grievances that people air online. The issue is how healthily they deal with their concerns. We see plenty of equally toxic behavior from other demographics. So I think the maturity is in separating out the legitimate concerns from the trauma responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 09:12 PM
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I don't believe they do but I also don't beleive men do either. What I do beleive is that more men than women take their vows of loyalty through marriage as literal vows and they're more likely to fulfill those vows even when they're not happy. This sort of attitude difference is why I tend to date women who are more masculine than average. I think part of this is related to brain chemistry & how we're rsused/socialized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:29 PM
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I commented earlier about how men bond - through working together to overcome challenges. I can easily see gaming folks who have worked together to overcome challenges across several games forming intense friendships. Not really my thing, but it really makes sense. I had a female employee a little but back who was obsessed with some team-based online games. I guess I can see why now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:49 AM
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So I think part of the issue is how men bond. The most intense male friendships I have were earned in times of difficulty where the group of us overcame challenges together, either my teammates back home from HS sports or, to a much greater degree, fellow Marines I served with. You're probably not going to find anything like that in white collar jobs. Maybe a trade, maybe. But it won't be anywhere near the same. Here's an example - one of the guys was from PR & when Maria hit, I took his family …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:43 AM
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The problem isn't the lack of another parent so much as the single-income household. That's incorrect. The rate of negative outcomes is only there for single mother households. There is no discernable difference between 2-parent household and single-father household.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:59 AM
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This is absolutely the case in my experience, which is why I don't discuss these things with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 07:35 PM
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The marketing is exploiting that part of the lizard brain. If you know any trans men, you should talk with them about the effects testosterone had on their sex drive and then you can start to appreciate the difference between the average man and woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:44 PM
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I think the real issue is not that the lizard brain exists, it's that it needs to be controlled through self-discipline. The testosterone fueled lizard brain has led to a lot of positives, so it's a mixed bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:41 PM
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For relationships, I think your right. However, I think testosterone plays a bigger role than you're giving it credit for. The effect of which is sort of a 2 mode system of attraction. The lizard brain that say "She's hot, I want to fuck her" and the more advanced brain that says "she's beautiful, I like her vibes, and I'd like a relationship with her". The phrase "sex sells" seeks to exploit this lizard brain. If women en masse understood the 2 different mode of attraction that men have, entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:33 AM
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I only provide protection and provision for people who submit to my authority. Otherwise, you're responsible for your own protection and provisioning. But submission at any level is no longer an expectation in society so I don't owe anyone protection. If people want to be treated like equals, they need to act like equals. The crux of your dilemma is rooted in the fact that your principles conflict with the broader society. Societal norms cannot be 'cherry piked' nor intellectually inconsistent. …
/r/RedPillWomen09/02/23 04:31 PM
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I find it weird to assume that just because a woman is in a LTR that means her partner wouldn't be willing to fulfill her sexual fantasies. If that was the case, and she chose to be with a man who doesn't share her sexual adventurousness, then either she's happy to let it remain a fantasy OR she chose poorly. So much this. My exwife, who was a virign when we met, wanted to try some things that I wasn't fully onboard with, specifically anal and DP. The very thought of anal makes me lose an erecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:25 PM
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Valid question. Context from the rest of the profile. With the way it's presented by the man, it's at least a caution flag. I beleive this kind of dialog is better left for a first date. I actually want to know what a woman thinks being agreeable and feminine mean. I'm actually looking for signs of either a "boss bitch" or "doormat" attitude as either of those extremes would make us incompatible. Someone further down in the thread referred to the definition from the big 5 personality traits, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:43 AM
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This is one of the best responses in the entire thread. People who think it means bring a doormat are just demonstrating their toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:12 AM
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It would behoove you to learn nuance and distinguish between the type of men who do use it thusly and those who have a more evolved definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:02 AM
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Some women being disagreeable is not invalidated by some men also being disagreeable. As for general question about agreeableness, I think the underlying issue is emotional control and being mature enough to argue productively instead of arguing unproductivly (overly emotional, trying to 'won't instead of understanding & coming to a middle ground). My exwife was the only woman I've dated who I felt was agreeable but not a pushover. We met in the Marines so, while agreeable, she was also ver asse…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:59 AM
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? Because people don't get divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:52 AM
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Then the women has to go through unbalanced hell. 3 years of hormonal changes, permanent body changes (both aesthetic and functional), potential health risks, extreme discomfort, etc. How do you plan to carry half the burden By helping you get through this. Don't kid yourself, there is a LOT of emotional labor is dealing with some women while they're pregnant and after.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:53 PM
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Mid 20s. Both men and women have had enough life experience at that age where you can judge their decision making skills. Additionally, their personalities have pretty much fully formed by that point. If you wait longer than this, what happens is people's traumas start building up. Additionally, sbove average looking men who start to differentiate themselves socioeconomically will be relatively less willing to settle for a monogamous relationship as they start to realize their own emerging perio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:12 AM
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These days, not at all. As for your examples, I've never needed to do #1. My real life comes across as an embellishment. If anything, I down play a lot. I have never nor wouldn't ever talk shit about a friend to impress someone else. You got me on #3. I did that when I was in my fuckboy phase. I'm looking for more meaningful connections these days though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:08 PM
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Porn is going to be difficult to address. What I imagine will happen is cameras will digitally sign material they capture and any material that doesn't include that digital signature will not be considered valid (either in court or for content providers to host). This will probably pose significant problems for certain video software. All that's going to do is inhibit sharing or passing deepfakes off as the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:01 PM
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Same. People need to understand the difference between lust and love and what role the prefrontal cortex play in self-control and decision making 🤔.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:50 PM
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Any person that says it's normal behavior is going to be failing at adulting. Both cases demonstrate poor self-control, poor emotional regulation, and poor discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:42 PM
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dress modestly but well, take care of yourself physically and mentally, and be generous with food, sympathy, empathy, physical and emotional love, and good humor. Be kind to animals, children, and those less fortunate than you. Create value in the world, passionate and engaged with what you believe in, and spread love in the world and people will come to you. That's how you become a high value woman in ways that transcend fleeting physical beauty. 100% this. I only date very fit women due to lif…
/r/RedPillWomen02/02/23 06:46 AM
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What kinda gym do you have? The one I go to is a local meat head gym. There's no juice bar, but there's definitely juice there 😬. The energy is so much better than a regular gym. The only women there compete so these influencer types or Karens wouldn't feel comfortable even walking in and I think everyone likes it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:59 AM
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It's almost like you can't and shouldn't believe all people, including women. Shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:54 AM
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People who record in public gyms are so annoying I wouldn't mind beginners doing it to review form later, but with "influencers", it's gotten out of hand. That's why I go to a local meat head gym. Your typical "influencer" wouldn't be comfortable there and that's the whole idea. I don't want to be working out around people who aren't also pushing themselves really hard both physically and mentally ... they really suck the energy out of the space.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:52 AM
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If women don't think you measure up it doesn't mean their standards are 'too high', it means. you're unfit I completely agree with you at a micro-level. The problem is, if men don't think a woman or society measures up to protect and provide for, it means the woman and society are unfit. That's not really going to be a problem when you have 10% neckbeards. If we get to 25% or over, it will start to have serious impacts. There are few things more dangerous for a society than having excess idle me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:02 PM
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LARPing as young guys With Law&Order? I thought that's a boomer & genx show?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:27 PM
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Having the parents is a lot different than having 1. Ideally, there is a masculine and a feminine parent to provide emotional balance. I've seen kids raised by lesbian parents where one parent was very masc and one was feminine and the kids turn out well adjusted. Certainly better than kids on average from single parent households. And that makes sense to me. But having two parents seems to me to be the key here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:27 PM
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At least in the US, the vast majority of illegal immigrants would qualify for income tax credits. Meaning, they would net more money back. They still pay sales and property taxes (directly or indirectly), which are leading tax expenses for anyone below medium income. After a generation or two, they adapt. Just like every other wave of immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:20 PM
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I beleive a single person should not be allowed to have IVF treatment or adopt. There has never been a clearer link between negative outcomes for children than being raised by a single mother. The data in this is irrefutable by anyone qualified to speak on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:17 PM
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Either you are not selecting quality men or you're acting some kind of way when you get sick.
/r/RedPillWomen25/01/23 12:33 AM
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I’m a 5’10 woman so you would think I’m fairly strong right? No, not at all. If you told me your name was Ilona Maher, I might agree with you. But training is a much bigger predictor of a reasonable baseline of strength than height is. Not if involves physical combat. Very few engagements result in physical combat. Regardless, I've personally witnessed women hold their own in combat. The biggest issue is fitness and ensuring women are held to a reasonable standard. The army just had a problem wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:57 PM
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I don't follow him but I do agree with some of what I've heard from him, but certainly not most things. I see why people think he's misogynistic. He certainly comes across that way. Andrew Tate says that he doesn't want his woman paying a bill. He wants his woman in the house. My future wife wouldn't need to work and if things were different then I'd like to offer her that. But given modern divorce laws, I require a partner to be on my level in terms of wealth & income. He can protect his woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:55 AM
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I'm early-mid 30s and would date a woman 25-30. If I met a woman over 30, I'd certainly be willing to date her if we were highly compatible. I'm not a big fan of marriage so we'd need to be very compatible and have a high probability of having children. I'm very disinclined to get married if we aren't going to have children together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:27 AM
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That's you! Barf Ok, son ... settle down now. At least wait until your balls drop
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 02:52 PM
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Those who do are mostly over 40 and already in relationships. Shit from the 90s is back in style again, so why not move it up a decade and also do '00 tech? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:42 PM
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Sure there are some and they're usually cool as all hell. But let's be real, it's a small percentage of women who have the grit necessary to do those jobs... but damn do I find those type of women attractive 😍🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:40 PM
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I don't really use insta and even if I did then I would be following those kind of models. But if I did, then I'd have enough discretion to follow 'models' on an account not associated with my name if for no other reason than to not embarrass a gf or wife. Aside from the issue of discretion, it would be a huge red flag if a woman was attempting to control what or whom I look at. But I'm not the kind of person who'd be leaving anything more than likes even if I did do something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:14 AM
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One of the things that's important is to distinguish between feminine strength vs masculine strength.
/r/RedPillWomen19/01/23 03:47 AM
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Not if it's for a good reason
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/23 10:23 PM
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I'm with you, but tere's the problem. Infatuation is not the right foundation for a long term relationship. The issue is, sex and intimacy is an important part of maintaining a relationship and if that's withheld for too long, most relationships will end. And since most people refuse to be intimate with a partner they're not infatuated with, you risk a death spiral if your partner isn't infatuated ... or you come to some other alternative arrangement. My exwife had a much higher libido than I an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:22 PM
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The number one predictor for divorce is the husband loosing his job and women file 80% of divorce, up to 90% if they both have degrees. Here is an article on the Ohio State study. https://www.livescience.com/14705-husbands-employment-threatens-marriage.html Here is a link to a study from Harvard. https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/akillewald/files/money_work_and_marital_stability.pdf If a person has depression, exercise alone is not going to cut it. Plus we're not talking just some short term dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:45 PM
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No, but they're not the same. The mods didn't do a good job there controlling their sub and there was way too many men going through their rage phase. Instead of those men getting the help they need, it turned toxic.
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/23 11:18 PM
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should he just dump her Me? No, not if she's working on it. But as someone else pointed out in another part of the thread, exercise helps a lot with mental health. I personally had to end my marriage because my exwife refused to get help for PTSD and alcoholism. If she was willing to get help, I we'd almost certainly still be together. Everyone has limits. Let me turn this around for you. Supposed a husband with a wife and 2 children was making 250k but then had a breakdown and decided to quit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:14 PM
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You misspelled the words "woman" & "children". The greatest gift a woman can give a man is children
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/23 07:35 PM
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Besides sex, do you even like women? Some, yes. Not terribly different than how I approach platonic relationships with men. The women I tend to enjoy being around tend to be a bit more masculine than average and those are the ones I generally end up in LTRs with. I prefer not to be around people (as friends or partners) who lack emotional regulation skills, are poor communicators, don't accept responsibility, don't have strong conflict resolution skills, have high degrees of anxiety, are not suf…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:21 PM
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It's not a matter of white folks, it's a matter of advanced economies. The 2+ generation birth rates across all racial and ethnic groups is falling in all advanced economies, fom Japan and South Korea to US/Canada and Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:51 AM
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The obesity is a long running structural problem. There have been 2 acute problems that have been layered on top of all this. The first is candidates aren't able to lie anymore about health issues due to electronic records. The second is a growing number of people from demographics that are traditionally over represented in enlistments are shrinking considerably.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:49 AM
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Education level not population numbers are what matter today. That's entirely not true. Demographics are destiny
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:08 AM
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This is directly reflected in the current poor military recruitment numbers. Young men are checking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:04 AM
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As a man with a high N count, it is indeed often seen as a red flag by the type of women one should want to marry to maximize the probability of a stable home life. Sorry that you've been lied to 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:47 AM
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Money isn't the point of a relationship and the money a professional makes is based off prior investments much, much more than their current labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:43 AM
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In terms of what I do care about more than immutable physical characteristics: being in good physical shape an authentically calm, caring, and kind demeanor positive conflict resolution skills having spent some serious amount of effort in your life helping others or contributing to society intelligence strong moral compass I can go on ... but literally, one a woman has crossed the "not ugly thteshold" for me, almost everything else in more important. Don't get me wrong ... I'm a hot blooded man …
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/23 03:36 AM
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Look, this might be rough but I think it will do you more good if you hear it raw. There's a certain percentage of men out there, where as long as you don't turn us off, we're MUCH more concerned with other things. Literally, the size of a woman's chest has zero impact on my decision to get into or stay in a committed relationship with her. I can go down the list of things you're likely self-conscious about and tell you the same thing. The only deal breakers I have are things within a woman's co…
/r/RedPillWomen16/01/23 03:30 AM
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I'm sorry that's your life. For what it's worth, that's not been my experience. All of the men I served with in the Marines, I'd kill or die for any of them. When I was going through my divorce my Battalion XO was a huge help emotionally and physically. After I got out, when Hurricane Maria hit PR, I flew 2 families of guys I served with when I was enlisted, along with their parents to live with me. We were jammed packed into a 4 br house and I had to spend some serious time making bunk beds and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:15 AM
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I fully disagree with their assertion about woman being a burden (I mean, that's a pretty disturbing conclusion). But I completely agree that as a society, we do need men and women in their 20s to have more children than they are currently having. I just very much disagree with OP on how to go about solving that problem. Edit: I think there's some part social and legal reform and some part economic reform that we need to solve this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:56 AM
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Additionally, after about 30, the preponderance of your income is more a result of your choices and investments of time and money than it is directly your labor (from say age 15 up until that point). So why should a spouse have a equal claim on the results of that investment? Is just doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:52 AM
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One the biggest problem for marital property that nobody talks about is when you combinenit with both the divorce rates and divorce laws. You end up HEAVILY reinforcing socioeconomic assortative marriages which in turn HEAVILY impacts negative economic inequality because it severely restricts cross-class economic opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:48 AM
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So we’re damned if we do damned if we don’t No, I don't think that's would be appropriate. I think a large part of problem is the way courts have all but taken fathers out of the lives of a large amount of several generations. That leads to poor socialization of both young boys and girls, which in turn leads to women either picking shitty partners (of which there are too many) or delaying having children (because they don't know how to pick a good man because they didn't have positive male role …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:41 AM
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There are negative consequences either way. Best to avoid that entirely and get your shit together before you get married and bring a baby into the world, and also pick better partners. Obviously, this applies equally to men and women ... and honestly, probably more so to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:49 AM
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Bad decisions have consequences. Why is this a surprise?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:46 AM
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I think you're probably right to encourage young people to settle down sooner and have children, but the idea of exposing a tax is a non-starter, especially focusing it on just one gender like that. I think one of the things we need to do is stop pretending that marriage is for life. With no-fault divorce, that ship has sailed. We need to re-envision marriage for the modern world, and a significant part of that is to end the concept of marital property given that men and women have the same care…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:42 AM
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I don't think anyone is blaming women for having children within a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:37 AM
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Obviously, this entire line of thinking is extreme bullshit but it does raise a couple of interesting questions, most notably, "why should fidelity be expected and sex not"? My exwife and I never had these diets of issues, but if she decided to withdraw from sex, then that's a huge red flag and we'd both have a lot of work to do on the relationship. Most importantly, how things even got to that point in the first place without us spending SERIOUS time working through the issues. But if we weren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:38 PM
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Please go get your tubes tied and check yourself into a mental health facility. You really need to be medicated, heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:28 PM
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I could only add "married people who don't think they have an obligation to their partner in order to maintain the relationship". Before people come for me, I'm not talking about just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:21 PM
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I'm in my early-mid 30s and out here looking to get remarried and have kids. My ideal age range is late 20s, but if she's early 30s than that's fine as well. Similiarly, if she was somehow a perfect match, I might consider a woman in her mid 20s, but younger than like 23 is a hard pass. On ther other hand, whereas I would have dated women older than me in my late 20s, there's no way I'd be doing that now unless she was a perfect match. I think most men my age are of roughly the same mindset. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:34 PM
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It’s not instability, You're not recognizing the warning signs of instability, because it certainly is unstable behavior. it’s actually very common. That might be true, but it's still unstable Girls who stay as the forever girlfriend are viewed as a mug by men who know they can walk all over their girlfriends and they hold the power. Not by any man worth a damn, no. And if anyone is with a partner that walks all over them, they should leave. That's toxic AF. Guys know if they want to marry you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 01:47 AM
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How do you think she felt abit the whole thing? She was, nor has been a very sexual person. I was drawn to her as friend and she I. If she was romantically or sexually attracted to me, she never did anything to lead me to believe so. but how did this effect your romantic relationships? Did either of you pursue other people, and if so, did you keep the cuddling a secret from partners? We stopped cuddling and sleeping in the same bed as soon as my exwife and I started getting serious, but we never…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:37 PM
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I really liked her as a person, just wasn't interested as a sexual partner. I think it was about equal in terms of who initiated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:25 PM
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No I didn't. I just didn't see her in that way. Could I look at her and see she was attractive, yes. Was I attracted to her? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:45 PM
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As a man, I fully endorse these recommendations right here for other guys... except maybe the makeup. The only other things for guys is, if you have a beard, learn how shape and trim it properly. For everyone, learn the difference between expensive/trendy versus good clothes. Get some made-to-measure items if you can afford to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:34 PM
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So I was in the Corps and guys would rag the ever living shit out of me for wearing sunscreen. I took that shit on deployments and had people send me care packages with re-ups. I'm talking the good shit too, not the walmart special. I also use an aftershave lotion with spf 15 and a retinol at night. My skin is in a LOT better shape than other people my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:29 PM
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I hooked up with a friend in in HS. Couple years later, we'd hang out all the time when I went back home. Nothing sexual. More like brother & sister. I'd hang at her house with her and her roommates, cuddle on the couch, sleep in the same bed in our underwear and cuddle. Nothing sexual ever happened except that one time in HS. Point being, some people enjoy cuddling and some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:59 PM
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You don’t think that’s common knowledge? No, I don't. Historically, men haven't cared all that much about how much women make. Things are changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:10 PM
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Stop playing like this is some virtuous message it’s “oooo you better settle down or no man will want you!!!” That's not what I said at all. I'm just showing people how their options become more limited as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:35 PM
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It’s 2023, the dating field is full of women also in their 30’s with accomplished careers. I think our definitions are vastly different. When you reach a certain level, there are far less women. You can see how this plays out for people here: https://gen.medium.com/can-women-make-it-into-the-1-without-a-husband-c9ac9f9b9cd3 https://contexts.org/articles/gender-in-the-one-percent/ I don’t need to be told to make an informed decision about dating anymore than you do! What is it with this idea that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 07:02 PM
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Like don’t get me wrong we can all see from a mile away this is negging this is the young men here trying to scare young women into a panic so they’ll settle for them There's an old saying - if you want to be married to an Admiral then you need to date the Ensign. When men are young, they're much more open to marrying a woman and building a life with her. After you get into your 30s, it's more an issue of "this is what I've built. You?". When I married by first wife, we were both 2LTs pulling in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:11 PM
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Tl;dr- if that's your experience, then you need to pick better partnera. Your premise entirely depends on the person and there is far more variation within a group than between groups. Additionally, my experience has been that this entirely depends on how people were socialized up until age 25ish. I only date women with very high emotional regulation and I've found them far more capable than the average man or woman to think logically or emotionally, as the situation requires. Maybe those are re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:53 AM
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Yes, provided she doesn't think less of me or treat me as less than because of it. I'd want to get a prenup though just to put her mind at ease. Would I stay hone with the children? Sure, as long as the prenup is relatively fair. Given how much I make, I'd probably just get a work from home job, roll back the hours, and get a livein nanny or something. Obviously some women might get suspicious in that type of situation (given how shit some men act) so we'd need to get house cameras or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:38 AM
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If the average child support payment is 4k per year and the cap is approximately 30k per year then the average person doesn't reach the cap so there's no change. If a person is making 400k per year, paying the ex 100k is ridiculous. It's also ridiculous to only pay them 4 k per year. For that person, having their alimony and CS capped at approx 30k is very reasonable. At worst, the dependent ex spouse would be making 60k per year (30k in min wage and 30k in alimony + CS). If they can't make it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:37 PM
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30k is a cap. A CAP. How many times does it take ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:45 PM
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The exact opposite happened to this married couple I knew in consulting. The couple was in their late 20s, both highly educated, very good looking, and he was very well payed, ~300k, and she was doing alright (guessing around 80k based on her role). Anyways, she hounded him for an open marriage and he reluctantly agreed. She ended up really enjoying the first couple of weeks, way more than he did. Then this dude went to war. Got a seperate bank account, a high end car, started juicing, got a fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:41 PM
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Were not talking about average child support, were talking about 30k per year being the cap. And your claim was that it's not enough, but it really is. So if a dependent spouse is working a minimum wage job, they're getting roughly 30k from alimony + child support and roughly 30k from their job, so just over 60k combined. If that's not enough to make it work then they're not financially self-sufficient to get custody of the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:02 PM
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Child support is
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:52 PM
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Her job plus what the dependent spouse gets from alimony and CS
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:45 PM
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Plus her wage is 2x minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:18 PM
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She'd be making 2x minimum wage
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:53 AM
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Limited or full conscription is still active in Austria, Switzerland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Greece, Turkey, Cyprus, Lithuania, and Estonia. Selective service registration, registering for a draft but not actively calling up, exists in the US. Most of the EU had limited conscription back in the early 2000's. Only Sweden and Norway have laws that require women to meet the same standards as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:49 AM
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Under no circumstances should alimony plus child support be greater than the local minimum wage. It would solve a lot of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:31 PM
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I certainly don't agree with a lot of what AT says, but he does an excellent job pointing out the hypocrisy with modern feminism. The quintessential examples for me are the draft and dating norms (specifically who asks and who pays). I think AT advocates for an approach to gender norms that no longer exist nor are practical. On the other hand, too many women fail to spot the lies of modern feminism in terms telling them they have all the time in the world to find a husband and have a family. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:13 PM
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You need to understand the difference between how men select sex partners vs marriage partners. Most men who are looking to marry are far more concerned about how you present and take care of yourself than what you're naturally born with. I know with social media, advertising, and porn that this distinction might not be obvious to you since most of that is geared towards sex appeal instead of beauty. Additionally, you can't accept imperfection in others unless you accept them in yourself. So in …
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/23 04:09 AM
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Can a latex allergy cause this? IDK honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:58 PM
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the social media definition is in any way being critical or disagreeing with women At this point, the word has lost it's meaning and whenever I hear someone bring it up, I roll my eyes. I just don't care about whatever the speaker is talking about and it's frankly their fault for abusing the term to the point where it means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:46 PM
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The issue is more socialization. Fewer girls play sports & those that do usually don't play sports that require extensive all-round conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 08:29 PM
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They deflect. The can't imagine a reality where they're the problem so when men avoid them, the only option they're able to understand is that it's mens' fault, eg because the men are intimidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:58 AM
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"It" ?
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/23 10:40 PM
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My exwife and I certainly had conflict in that there were issues we disagreed on and had to work to resolve differences. But we never raised our voice or lost our tempers. That's what I call healthy conflict resolution.
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/23 04:46 PM
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Unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:26 PM
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It never prevented me from getting attention from guys at all. No, I don't suppose it would. Most guys have preferences but a lot of them don't matter all that much if the vibes are good. I think that's one of the things that a lot of women don't understand about men. Too many women, especially younger women, try to be sexy in order to attract a man. Beautiful is a much better look if you're looking for a relationship and beauty comes in a lot of different forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:01 AM
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Ngl, if I was gonna play for the other team, this guy is it. Solid 9
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:49 AM
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It's purge week my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:47 AM
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never tried to cuddle with my exes though lol She wasn't an ex, we just had sex. I was the county fuckboy in HS. In my case our friendship for several years evolved into something else - we were not lovers but close and I had to bail out. Lost her as friend as well. Sorry to hear that the friendship ended.
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/23 06:45 AM
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Ahh, yes, the need to keep up appearances for the sake of one's job. I certainly can relate. Glad you can do you though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:42 AM
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I think they'll actually make this illegal. The real reason will be population management, but they might justify it differently. Not sure I'd go for the cute fembot gf. But if they were offering like hentai tentacles or something, that might be of interest /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:39 AM
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Honest question - were you butch when you were dating men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:36 AM
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Had this happen once. A good friend of MANY years. I am her son's godfather. She was having problems with her husband, whom I greatly respected, and she said something like "you ever wonder why we never dated". Me: "nope". Ended up cutting contact with her after that. I wasn't going to add to the complications and issues they needed to work through. This was like 8 years ago now and it saddens me greatly that I lost her as a friend. I've had a couple of married women friends, most of whom are bu…
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/23 06:23 AM
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I think you over estimate 4chan
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:14 AM
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Our economic and tax/pension system depends on population growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:13 AM
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They cant ruck with a full combat load 100%. Almost all fold like a wet paper towel before 10 miles. You can stick them in a turret though or maybe in a mechanized unit. But don't expect most to ruck. We'd have to make weigh training mandatory for 3 years of HS for the average woman to have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:18 AM
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You're utterly full of shit. Women can make fine soldiers if they're trained properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:20 AM
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I've served adjacent to plenty of women who served well. The only area women tend to have a problem is muscular endurance, which most notably impacts them on ruck marches and I imagine in artillery if they're a loader. I can't imagine asking women to carry a mortar baseplate, or even a guy who weighs like 150lbs. But for pretty much most other things, including mechanized or motorized infantry, I'm sure women will do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:58 AM
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Yes, but they tend not to age well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:43 AM
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Same approximate situation. I highly value intelligence and ambition in a partner, along with compassion, kindness, calmness, rationality, discipline, and objectivity. I'd say I view all of these more importantly than looks, provided I'm not turned off by her looks. The only time I overlook ambition is if the women is in an altruistic field. I long ago accepted that I'm not normal in this regard though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:36 AM
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And I think trying to perpetuate the fantasy ideal life is what’s driving up divorce rates Absolutely! I think the military spouses are a different situation. You either don't get BAH for on-base housing or, if it's contract housing, BAH pays for housing. You also don't get free food if you're married - that's what the commissary is for. As an E5, you're pulling down between 36-42k. Not having to pay for housing and medical are the biggest impact. It's entirely possible to support a SAHS with 2 …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:17 AM
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My experience has been most of the women who have never been married by 30-35 have issues that they're too arrogant to identify, primarily that they handle conflict extremely poorly. I'm sure my male peers have similiar issues, probably most commonly that they don't want to settle down if they're sexually successful or they've given up if they're not sexually successful. Or have kids young and be pushed out of any careers or education because you can’t afford the huge expenses of child care. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:46 PM
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Caveat emptor, time waits for no one, etc I feel like these younger GenX and millennial women are starting to find out they've been lied to. I hope things turn out better for GenZ.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:17 PM
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It's the hubris for me. I feel bad that she wasn't smart enough to discern fact from fiction and I feel bad that she's in this predicament. But it really is a problem of her own creation. I do hope she's ok though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:59 PM
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This is my understanding as well. It works for a suprising small percent of the time (as in nowhere near 80).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:55 PM
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Nobody ages well if they dont take care of themselves. This isn't new. Maintaining a proper diet and exercise routine along with consistent use of sunscreen (especially for fairer skinned people) will help dramatically. I'm in my early kid 30s and some of my peers are starting to look rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:14 PM
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I've noticed the same thing as a white guy who routinely dates women of all sorts of backgrounds. The same thing happens with some Indians and Asians. I find the entire situation odd because if anything, I have a slight preference for darker women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:51 PM
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I think your advice is great for a 25yo. However, at 35yo, the chances of getting married and having children are low & rapidly falling, and men generally don't want to get married if there are no children. On the other hand, you can probably live a decent life if 2 people are willing to commit to each other outside of marriage. You can still enjoy each other's company, go halfs on expenses, and share (as in 50/50 ... looking at some of you guys out there) domestic chores and responsibilities.
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 03:25 PM
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I'm in my early-mid 30s and, sadly, divorced (ex-wife had an extreme case of alcoholism due to combat related PTSD and wasn't willing to get help for either). Since we met young and we both had essentially zero assets and identical incomes, we were both building ourselves and each other. Now past 30, I'm doing very well for myself. Unfortunately, no woman is really going to build with me as an equal1 unless she's close to my income and assets. Also, age is becoming and issue given that it takes …
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 03:15 PM
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I've never not had extremely high confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:08 AM
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So true, so true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 11:31 PM
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It's not like it's you hit 30 and bam, everyone either has kids or is jaded. It's a progression.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:50 PM
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Not all 30 year olds are busted baby mamas. Certainly true, but it becomes progressively harder to find the ones who aren't either jaded or baby mamas.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:38 PM
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Too old? No. Starting to push it? Certainly. The fertility curve starts to fall at 30 and then after 35 it really starts to fall hard. Given that it will probably take 3-4 years from first date to marriage and children, you can see how those timetimes line up. I think most women are aware of this but it doesn't sink in for a decent number until they reach late 20s. I worry that the media is lying to young women, maybe in an attempt to suppress births. From a guy's perspective, women can get REAL…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:28 PM
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I married young and divorced before 30 because she wasn't willing to get help for alcoholism and combat related PTSD. I'm now a couple years past 30 and my career has really taken off to the point where I'm in the top 2 maybe 1%, depending on the year. My current income is based on the culmination of hours invested, much more than my direct labor. Given what I've seen older men go through, I'm just not willing to take the chance at marrying again unless she's in my income range and we're going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:37 AM
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I don't require it but given my other requirements, it's going to be difficult to meet them and not have a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 04:25 PM
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I'm guessing you live in the rural south? I grew up there and it's difficult economically speaking. A lot of it will depend on what sort of industry is in your area and if you're willing to relocate. Another problem in a lot of the south is that to some degree, jobs are traded like favors between familes. Hit me up in the DMs if you want to talk specifics. I'm about to fall asleep though, so it might take a day for me to reapond.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:33 AM
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Marketable skills. IMO, the type of women you want to date will want to see you either have or are working towards marketable skills. They have a right to know that you're not going to be a deadbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:14 AM
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If you're around beautiful women, other (beautiful) women will think more highly of you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:09 AM
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Generally speaking, it wouldn't matter to me at all. My dream woman is much more defined by her personality, intellect, and lifestyle than her body. I don't seriously date women that don't lead a very healthy and active lifestyle. But even if we're out there knocking out a half marathon somewhere between 90 and 120 minutes, we're still going to put on some weight as we age. I'm fine with that. What I'm not fine with is dramatically changing our lifestyle and then packing on 40lbs. Wrinkles you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 04:04 AM
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Damn, maybe I should have moved to Ireland instead of NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:59 AM
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Sure, feel free
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:37 AM
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Ty, I am. It wasn't consensual when I was a kid at the 2 women were in their 30, but the rest of it was on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:01 PM
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Yeah, I know. It's not something I'm proud of really. There are "extenuating circumstances" that I don't want to get into, but I started therapy and moved into a quiter neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:51 PM
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When I could no longer remember their names. I've written about it before in this sub. I'm somewhere north of 150 but south of 200 most likely. I was already over 10 before I graduated HS. There wasn't much to do where I grew up other than drinking, doing drugs, cars, and girls. I've gone to therapy and addressed the underlying issues that drove this behavior. It wasn't easy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:56 PM
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Early mid 30s man, lost track.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:53 PM
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This is why I don't date women who make substantially less than me. Unfortunately, the law is too far behind modern marriage in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:04 PM
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It's called the Pareto Principle. As it applies to dating, it means that 80% of women find only 20% of men as above average in looks.
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/22 03:50 AM
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Some people be like that. My lawyer suggested I ask women to sign an NDA before things get too serious and I dismissed the idea because I'm certainly not a celebrity. Shit like this give my second thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 11:50 PM
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Put yourself in the proximity of the type of men you want to marry. Unless you're directly asking a man for his contact info, chances are you're being too subtle when hitting on guys. Understand the 80/20 rule for male desirability & figure out how you want to approach dating: compete, settle, or die alone Learn what men want vs what you've been led to think they want
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/22 11:21 PM
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Damn, you guys are rough. I can legit say that I've never seen that. Even as a Corporal in the Marines, we'd just be happy for him. The people we would shit on were staff NCOs, Officers, and any guy trying to wife up a stripper. I was keenly aware of this dynamic when I got commissioned. I'd much rather my Marines joked about how buff my wife was behind my back than to give each other shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 07:50 PM
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I think women's attraction to height is more about social dominance than physical
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:26 AM
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the one advantage short guys have is that its WAY easier to get jacked. They're also natural sprinters. Very dangerous over short distances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:18 PM
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I dunno man, pick better women? My exwife was my best friend and I've had a lot of female friends that I was just friends with. The one thing I'll say is that most of these women are at least somewhat more masculine than average for a woman but they all have nurturing and caring sides. I mean fuck, I've had nurturing and caring male friends in the Marines ... they just showed it differently (nobody would confuse them.with soft lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 10:32 AM
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I actually love how nerdy this response is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:14 AM
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I'm pro-choice, though I don't agree with abortion 🤷‍♂️ In other words, I wouldn't want a partner or family member to get an abortion & would rather raise the child myself. But I have a bigger concern with the government getting involved. However, I have more pressing political concerns at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:11 AM
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Yep. It's infinitely more about actions and behaviors than what you're born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:12 PM
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I'd tell them that I prefer to not talk about these types of things and if they insist, I'll tell them the truth - I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:14 AM
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Why would you expect a woman to want to marry you when you’re stingy? I expect her to be on my level economically speaking, so it's irrelevant. Your attitude makes you sound like a gold digger. But if I was going to marry a woman who made significantly different amounts from me, then I would insist on having seperate finances after joint bills are paid for (which we would probably split in some close to proportionate manner). Unfortunately, that's not how it works in my state when there's a sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:00 AM
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Any money you make off that money does, eg capital gains
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:40 PM
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For all of our talk about being a progressive country, in a lot of ways, we aren't. I've dated a few women from Nordic countries here in NYC and they're often amazed at some of the behavior of American women. I happen to agree with them. Coincidentally, Norway and Sweden are the only two countries on earth that conscript women and men in equal conditions. I think this is one of the reasons why I tend to date more masculine women. Frankly, I respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:23 AM
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A lot of men are opting out I personally want someone to go through life with. The courts are the biggest obstacle in my way because they make it so that only someone either financially reckless or with a net worth of >~50M would marry a someone outside their wealth/income bracket. I've passed on some otherwise good women because of this issue alone. The idea that income is marital property really needs to be abolished. All of my income is a direct result of prior (financial or time) investments…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:07 AM
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There are two things that societies needed large quantities of engaged men for: fighting wars and economic output in post-industrial pre-modern societies (the later doesn't fully apply to the US). Entire legal systems were built up around the premise that because men do the fighting, they're in charge of the family. It's a microcosm of "might makes right". The problem we're stuck in right now is the transition phase for the end of patriarchy. At least in the US, women are not really stepping up …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:07 AM
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There are many dimensions to attraction, physical is only one of them. In that last post, I was only talking about physical attraction. Another way of looking at it is to seperate hot vs beautiful. There are plenty of women who are hot but not beautiful, plenty of women who are beautiful but not hot, and plenty of women who are neither. There are very very few women who are both hot and beautiful. That's like one in 10k. Hotness is what drives our lizard brains. Beautiful is more about presentat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:03 PM
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I can’t feel romantic attraction if there’s no emotional connection first Same. I can certainly feel sexual attraction, because testosterone. But I can't feel a romantic attraction unless there's an emotional and intellectual attraction first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:50 PM
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That's sad honestly. What that implies is that people don't accept that they're not an 8/9/10 because they think that they can't be loved and cherished by someone who doesn't see them as a 8/9/10 looks wise. It seems like this approach is basing too much on sex appeal. I just think there are much healthier things to base a relationship on. This might surprise you a bit. Just on the physical side - I've slept with a couple of porn stars and models and they weren't the best sex I've ever had. I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:48 PM
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What is the implication, here, that only attractive people can be special? Most guys don't think that way. Bingo. I think the problem is that some people are unable to seperate out and manage their sexual desires seperate from what they want/need in a relationship. 'Sex sell' but it's not the right thing to build a relationship off of. The chances a woman will have a monopoly over my sexual fantasies is zero, no matter how hot she is. That doesn't mean I don't find her attractive or I don't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:41 PM
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I'm with you 10000%. I want a lot more out of a relationship other than just busting a nut once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:45 PM
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Yeah, I'm going just based on looks. Once you take personality and things other than looks into account ... I get it. Most people are unattractive to me in that regard. But purely on looks, I'd say ~75% of women who are not severely overweight are attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:40 PM
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early 50s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:33 PM
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im just very average looking Honestly, most guys are just fine with average looking women. Me personally, as long as I don't find a woman unattractive, I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:32 PM
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To me it's indicative of a person who has not found acceptance of their own imperfections or those in others. The line "I hardly find any men attractive" is a bit concerning. It sounds like the same unreasonable standards I'd hear from a 19yo male who has an addiction to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:29 PM
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FWIW, I had a butch lesbian friend with whom I was very close. She was totally my bro. We'd do all kinds of shit together but there was nothing sexual between us. One of my most cherished relationships actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:05 AM
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It seems like you understand the point OP is trying to make but are determined to point to a few percentage outliers. The exceptions pretty much justify the rule in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:22 AM
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Honestly, it's less about the money and more about my time. I don't want to obligate myself to spend more than 30-45min with someone I met online. If it's someone I've met in person first, that's a much different issue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:46 AM
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Huh dude? Never had a female friend ask anything of me that a male friend hasn't asked. Kill spiders or make them feel safe or reach high places? Nope, never happened. Her: "Hey, I don't know how to do electrical work, can you come show me how to change out the chandelier. Pizza and bear are on me" Me: "bet, what time?" Her: "Hey, I'm moving this weekend. Pizza and beer on me if you come and help" Me: "bet, what time?" I've had both male and female friends ask about those two. That's what friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:15 AM
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Nah. I'm 5ft10 and I keep it legit. I'm more on hinge and bumble these days and I do fine. My problem is not with the number of women, but the number of quality matches. I'm looking for Mrs Right, not Ms RightNow. If I was just looking for something casual or short term, that would be easy but I've earned that I've let my fuckboi lifestyle get in the way of what I really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:13 AM
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It was a joke man. I'm a Marine vet, can't help ragging on the Army
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:33 AM
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Honestly, this is kinda gross thinking. I have a very hard time enjoying sex if the woman isn't into it, and this kinda pity sex is SUCH a turn off. The best sex I've ever had was with my exwife and we attuned to the point where we'd almost always orgasm together. Very rarely would either of us orgasm during sex without driving the other over the edge to climax. The very thought of a woman not having an orgasm during sex is very offputting to me. PSA to the other guys out there - learn the coita…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:31 AM
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Individual men are not puppies to train and reward. Apparently some Army officers are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:24 AM
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How? By accepting the fact that most people are average. Being average in beauty or hotness or cuteness is just fine. Once someone has enough experiences with insanely hot people and average people, my experience is that they will realize that having an insanely hot partner doesnt lead to better relationships or better sex in a relationship. As long as you don't find your partner displeasing to look at, the chances are MUCH higher that interpersonal issues are going to get in the way of a good s…
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/22 03:46 PM
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It's an analogy, it's not meant to be a direct comparison
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/22 05:45 AM
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The trust issue is a huge problem in modern dating. Generally speaking, women need to trust men won't commit physical violence and men need to trust women won't commit emotional violence. Problem is, most women who are emotionally violent aren't aware of it. I know a LOT of married men who have never and will never be emotionally vulnerable around their partner because they don't trust their partners.
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/22 05:44 AM
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The analogy is the process for how value is assessed, not about equating people with inanimate objects. It like you're looking at the brush strokes but not seeing the painting.
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/22 05:37 AM
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Easier said that done. Sounds like he's using alcohol to dull the pain he's feeling in life. Think of alchohol as a crutch that he's leaning on. You can't just take the crutch away - he risks falling over.
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/22 05:16 AM
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"Conventionally attractive"? Well it hinders things a bit, that's for sure. People's preferences differ and so do what people think is important. While "conventionally attractive", my exwife was certainly more masculine acting than average, but that's not a surprise since we met in the Corps. I'd also mention that I have a thing for tomboys and I consider myself a top/switch as far as my light BDSM kinks are concerned. Would I date a woman that had more masculine features (like Ilona Maher)? If …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:43 PM
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Let's back that up to around HS age. I'd still have competed in sports, but instead of joining the Corps, I probably would have joined the USAF reserves to help pay for college. I would have relentlessly looked for a guy that meets the following criteria: Extreme degree of integrity Calm/caring/kind Very high in consciousness Roughly on par with me intelligence wise Pursuing a good degree and has plans for what he wants to do in life At least average attractiveness I probably would have pursued …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:52 PM
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Not a conservative, but for step children, probably not. Step fathers are severely limited in the role they get to play in their step-children's lives in terms of decisions about how the child is raised, but are in the hook for the responsibilities. I have a godchild, and that's sorta the point. So for them, absolutely 1000%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:35 PM
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Remember you’re trying to get this person to like you. 😔No, you're trying to see if you two are compatible. If you're talking about a high value man, by definition, he will have a high degree of integrity and will expect the same of you. There comes a point in a relationship where not disclosing it will be an issue, unless you otherwise have an agreement never to talk about past relationships.
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/22 01:30 AM
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Confirmed. Making a mistake once is one thing, going back and doing it over and over again is an integrity issue.
/r/RedPillWomen14/12/22 01:24 AM
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So much this. We all chipped in and got couple of Lance Corporals and Privates laid right before I shipped out for my second deployment. We didn't want them going to war as virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 01:11 AM
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But I'm not against it if it realistically makes a difference and the cost / benefit analysis works. This is exactly the issue. In terms of actual cost, it's a drop in the bucket. The net increase is a fraction of inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:21 AM
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I did some searching later. It looks like TN is attempting to put something like this in place but their DepHumanSvc is fighting it because they risk loosing money. https://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/2022/03/29/new-proposed-bill-protects-tennessees-parents-paternity-fraud/7200208001/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:14 PM
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Anyway https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913012245 My experience and observations are that these dark triad personality traits are often gained as part of adapting to life's challenges. You don't find many preteen boys with these traits. You learn what works and adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:29 PM
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Birth certificates don't have signature blocks for parents, feel free to look it up. In almost all states, a married man is presumed the father legally. In some states, a woman can simply write a man's name down on the form for a birth certificate (no signature required) and then he's the father. In other states, he has to voluntarily sign an acknowledgment of paternity. But in no state is anyone required to present the results of a paternity test. In NY, no protections exist for a father like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:18 PM
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Physically, my standards are low but my standards elsewhere are extremely high. I've slept with very average women to, at the other extreme, a couple runway and print models and a couple of porn stars. As long as I don't find a woman unattractive, good dex for me isn't based on looks🤷‍♂️. And no, never in a million years would I tell a gf about some of the hotter women I've had spent time with. That's just going to cause unnecessary pain. Be in good physical shape Don't have a severely recessed …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:13 PM
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That already happens via warrants and 23andMe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:08 AM
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If the government wants to put a man's name on a form and use that as the legal basis for determining obligations, then the government also has an obligation to ensure all prudent steps are taken to ensure the validity of that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:07 AM
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You know men can get breast cancer too, right? Nowhere near as common and routine screening is only for women. You also realize the same health insurance pays for prostate exams that only men get? Sure am, and my position is that it should he included, just like breast cancer screening for women and paternity validation test for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:13 AM
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And breast cancer only concerns the woman who get it. And yet, we cover that because we're not all as selfish as yoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:06 AM
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And the public has no interest in screaming for breast cancer or down syndrome, but yet the health insurance companies are required to cover both.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:04 AM
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For stds, drug tests and stuff like that yes. For certain diseases, there's an alert and a way for the CDC to get the names but I believe it requires a special judge's review and approval. It's really only for really bad stuff like Ebola, Polio, Smallpox, etc. I imagine right before covid was kicking off in the US, there were procedures in place to figure out who tested positive. These days, covid would be anonymized and sent over as trend data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:02 AM
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Yes. The only men's shelters in the US that I'm aware of are in Batesville, Arkansas and Dallas, Texas. It benefits men and men are part of society. Just like having breat cancer screening benefits women and women are part of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:57 AM
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That's a political problem, not a financial problem. As I mentioned before, based on the US averages, the cost to implement this is 0.2% of delivery costs. Based on inflation, delivery costs are already going up 55x more than this. So the difference is 11.1% increase without this change versus 11.3% increase with this change. See how ridiculous the cost argument is? Edit: UK cost for delivery looks to be between £8-11k. Assume £9k. These are total cost, not the fee to the patient. A SRT paternit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:44 AM
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The only new process that needs to be changed is the process of requesting a new birth certificate. All the other processes already exist. The request form would need to include the results of the paternity test and the father's signature acknowledging the probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:38 AM
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You're welcome :) Only the probability of paternity would need to be sent the government. Unrelated, but just an FYI - a lot of other anonymized reporting is already sent to the CDC for epidemiology purposes. If you pop hot on a drug test, an std test, or a handful of diseases that are carefully monitored (e.g. polio), then a anonymized record of that is sent to the CDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:34 AM
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The NHS will pay over 20x more in inflation increases just for delivery costs than the cost of the paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:30 AM
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Last number I saw was there are exactly 2 men's shelters in the US compared to literally thousands for women. So we normalize that spending and then take the cost savings to fund it ... that is if 0.2% delivery cost increase is so unpalatable for you. My vote is to just is to just bake the cost increase in. It won't have anywhere near a material cost increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:27 AM
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Health insurance, public or private. Same as all the other birth related costs that are mandated to be covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:19 AM
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Look, I think paternity testing should be required but we need to stick to the facts here. The number you're referencing is for people who already suspect misattributed paternity so that's a HUGE selection bias. It's incorrect and inappropriate to extrapolate that out to all of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:16 AM
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The amount it would cost to implement is huge Why do you say that? The direct costs amount to less than 1% cost increase for delivery costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:13 AM
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Men insisting that a whole ass society pay for their paternity tests. No less selfish than women wanting all of society to pay for breast cancer screening or women's shelters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:06 AM
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where is that info to be held do you think? Short answer is, the actual DNA is not held anywhere. When you have a paternity test, the lab sequences part of the child's DNA and a part of the potential father's DNA and respond back with a probability of paternity. The analysis is of course easier and more precise if a sample of the mother's dna is included. The analysis is done comparing STRs. So the private lab receives the sample, runs the tests, and then responds with a probability of paternity…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:04 AM
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It's not an important public issue, period You're just a radical, selfish person. Just because it doesn't benefit you directly, you're not willing support it. There are already categories that healthcare must cover which are specific to certain groups of people. For example, maternity care and substance abuse treatment. I see no reason why a drug addict is anymore entitled to covered services than a requirement to establish paternity and cover the costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:42 AM
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The tests already exist and so do the billing codes, etc. Only difficult part would be for states to adjust their current processes to ensure a man's signature and the paternity test results accompany any request to have him listed as the father on at birth certificate. Thankfully, these type of verification and anonymization processes are already in place for CDC reporting. I'm guess by the intelligent/educated way you're phrasing you points that you're probably already aware of how these thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:31 AM
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You said like we don't have more important issues to spend government money on 0.2% net increase to delivery cost is so insignificant that it's a no-brainer. Private or public insurance would cover the costs anyways. Besides, if we really want to start worry about costs, then there are a lot of extra things insurance and the government pay for that we could stop to offset the costs. We could lift the mandate on birth control, we could defund women's shelters. There are a lot of options here to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:22 AM
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It's expensive That's a lie born out of ignorance or malice. I'll let you decide. The average total delivery cost in the us is $19k. Here in NYC, a paternity test cost $45. So you're talking an entire 0.2% increase in delivery costs. Stop spreading lies
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:00 AM
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Come on, use those brain cells. The government doesn't need to have access to your DNA for a private lab to compare two dna sequences ad see if there's a paternal match.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:56 AM
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This is the other part that we're not talking about ... maternity testing. It's tempting to say "yeah, but I just saw the baby pop out of her". Mistakes happen in hospitals. Granted, they're much less likely than they used to be, but the cost impact here is nothing compared to the trama of figuring out months later than you have the wrong baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:53 AM
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You're being dishonest and dismissive towards the rights of men. The average cost to delivery a baby is $19,000. A paternity test costs $45 here in NYC. So you're entire concern is based on an increase of 0.2% You should be ashamed of yourself for being so dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:49 AM
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It's just a big logistical challenge to implement and needs a government budget. This is just gaslighting at it's worst. The average cost for delivery is roughly $19,000. In NYC, a paternity test cost $45. So you're concern is for a net increase of 0.2%. Really? All you need to do is require a father's signature before he can be listed on a birth certificate and require the results of a paternity test, regardless of what the results are, before he's allowed to sign. If you don't want to wait the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:44 AM
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This is precisely why I'm very hesitant to date women who aren't close to my level economically speaking. I make exceptions for women in altruistic fields, but in general, it seems like a bit of a raw deal based on what I've seen older friends go through. What I don't think the law properly accounts for is that if you're successful, then you income is primarily the result not of your current time but of the aggregate value of the investment you've made up to that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:05 AM
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You can only tell a wise man from a fool when he opens his mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:19 PM
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Those statistics are based on height/weight tables and alternate body fat measures taken via tape tests. The tables are based on science similiar to BMI, but they're not BMI measures. The tape tests are clearly not based on BMI. See the USMC's standards here: https://www.fitness.marines.mil/BCP_Standards/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:31 AM
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Close. The only thing keeping Hitler from getting the oil was being tied up with the UK and later Russia. Remember, the Battle of Britian happened before Pearl Harbor and before Germany declared war on Russia. Hitler's intent was never to occupy Great Britain at that time, only to get them to sue for favorable peace terms so he could then 1) not have to worry about the UK & US, and 2) focus his undivided attention to conquering Russia and eastern Europe. At the start of the Battle of Britian, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:55 AM
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Yeah, I was in the Marines ... in Ramadi in 2006 at 18, hence the username. I grew up poor AF in eastern TN (very poor part of the US) and needed away to get tf out before something like meth got a grip on me. So yeah, I understand. But that urban fighting was brutal. Seeing guys running along and then just get their heads turned into pink chunks and then collapse. But none of that compares to getting smacked in the dick with 155mm artillery or MRLS. Those MLRS fuckers delete entire grid squares…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:19 AM
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Here to remind you that Russia won WW2. The Soviets saved the world from the Nazis. The west reluctantly joined once it was clear that Hitler was going for everything, not only the commies. Not only irrelevant to Russia's current military capability, but also incorrect. WW2 was largely won by American steel, British Intelligence, and Russian blood If the US and UK didn't supply Russia and if the UK had capitulated, Germany certainly would have beat Russia. Of course, if not for Russia, the rest …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:56 AM
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Most? No. A significant percentage of men? Yes. And it's not just dating, it's society they're giving up on ... and that has HUGE implications for the military. You see this in many statistics from labor participation rates, to college enrollment rates, to relationship and sex. The level of "I don't give a fuck" that I see in some of my younger cousins and nephews should scare the shit out of politicians. Thankfully, Russia has proved to be an absolute joke. But had they not been a joke, stomped…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:38 AM
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Or dumping completely fine loyal, loving wife of n years for younger and more attractive girl Never in a million years would it even cross my mind. The only way I'd ever leave is if she quit on the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:48 PM
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How do you know they wanted a committed relationship Because I heard a lot of DTR phrases/questions & attempts to redefine the situation as a committed relationship. why didn't you tell them that's not what you wanted? I did when asked, they just heard what they wanted to hear. Something ambiguous like "Baby, I really like spending time with you. Let's just see where this goes" would often work to end the conversation without saying yes but without them leaving either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:05 PM
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Don't have an opinion other than noting how hypocritically some women treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:29 AM
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I used to be a complete fuckboy and I didn't see it as an issue of: intentionality, honesty and common decency The way it looked from my perspective was that many women were trying to fuck their way into a committed relationship, so I was happy to let them try. I think you're struggling to reconcile all this because you're only looking at it from a women's perspective. From a man's perspective, it looks completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:12 AM
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What you're getting to are legal standards. You'd have to be familiar with various terms for burden of proof such as "reasonable suspicion", "probable cause", "preponderance of evidence", "clear and convincing evidence", and "beyond a reasonable doubt". Neither extreme would probably be appropriate. In the case of rape, if you have probable cause, I beleive the courts can already compel a DNA test. So there's no change there. My guess is that the legal standard to compel a dna test would either …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:03 AM
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Require the dna test to be listed as the farther. It doesn't mean the dna test has to show the man is the father. If the man refuses, he can already be compelled by court order. Edit: thank you for the engaging questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:19 PM
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I agree with you 100% but it amazes me how, in the case of people finding out later, some people think it's the man's fault for backing out instead of the women's fault for creating the situation in the first place. It's situations like this where paternity tests should be mandated. If we can stop even a dozen families from going through that pain then it would be worth it. The tests cost like $45 through the city up here in NY. It's a drop in the bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 04:16 PM
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She may think she's on his level, based on the criteria she thinks are important while he thinks she isn't based on the criteria he thinks are important. On an individual basis, these are not mutual exclusive. At a macro-level is where the trends emerge.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:37 AM
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I sure as hell wouldn't marry out of pressure of fear but neither am I going to pass over a good woman while I'm waiting for my 'dream woman'. If I found a good woman who was a match but say she wasn't my 'dream woman', say her breasts were the opposite of my ideal and she has a few other superficial things I wasn't thrilled with, I'd still marry her and consider myself a very lucky man. As long as I don't find her unattractive, I'll be fine ... and I say this as someone who has hooked up with p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:11 PM
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Or maybe the wrong people are the loudest who make it seem like looks are everything to a man. This is probably the case. Shitty people are shitty people. You'll find that in men and women. The issue is that our brains remember the negative more than the positive and negative things get more attention (news, online, etc.). It's also the case that shitty people tend to talk louder than good people they don't always shoot the shitty people down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:57 PM
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I'm glad I could help 🤔👍 I wasn’t secure about it because I assumed the answer to OP’s question would be yes for most men. Real talk, mature and emotionally stable men understand the difference between reality and some idealized version of perfection. The reality is, we understand that we're not perfect either. Maybe we're not 6ft2, maybe our hair is thinning, maybe we don't have an Adonis-like physique. So given that nobody is perfect, it would be crazy to expect a partner to be our perfect 'dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:32 PM
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Was there something that surprised you or some new insight you gained?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:35 AM
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No, but once you're talking billions of dollars, I don't see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:14 AM
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I'm successful, in my early 30s and single. The truthful answer is "probably not, but it depends". Would I have left my first wife had we not divorced (due to her alcoholism)? Not in a million years. We were in it together, us against the world. We had our share of problems, but other than her drinking, we were both willing to work at them, which is really what's important at the end of the day. In most ways, she was my dream girl. Maybe physically speaking she wasn't as I have a specific look t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 11:30 PM
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Yes, and I'm a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:49 PM
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Sounds like you've never experienced the difference between "just fucking" and "making love". I'm sorry you don't seem to have experienced the both.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:19 PM
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Like Ophra?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:07 PM
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better jobs are given to the guys and more difficult stuff is dumped on the older women Not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:07 PM
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Oh boy, I can sure tell the difference. It boils down to athletic ability and skill. I'm positive that the NCAA men's basketball champs would mop the floor with any team in the WMBA. I'd guess at least half the D1 NCAA men's basketball teams would as well. Do you remember when the Australian Olympic soccer team lost 7-0 to a bunch of under 15s from Newcastle? The Aussie team was ranked like 5th in the world and got destroyed by a bunch of 14 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:03 PM
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I can only speak from my perspective. I'm actually more physically attracted to women in their late 20s to 30s. Most women lack sufficient grace to be beautiful until they're around that age. Sure, they might be hot in their early or mid 20s, but I don't find 'hotness' anywhere near as attractive as a strong, mature, beautiful woman. The one thing younger women do have going for them is that they're usually more agreeable and less emotionally scared, but aren't we all?. I don't like or want a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:29 AM
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Apples & oranges up until about the 1980s. Before that, the norm was mostly for women to raise children & keep the home. I'd say that's very important to keep a society moving forward. If you've ever seen a male college dorm or a barracks that's not been inspected recently then you know that it barely counts as "civilization".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:16 AM
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It takes a certain degree of humility and wisdom for a young person to accept guidance. Most don't have that. This impacts not only the degree of guidance you get from parents, but also other adults. It wasn't until I was pushing 30 that I realized that most young people don't get the mentoring they need, and why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:50 PM
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And you listened to them. If men don't beleive young women will listen, they won't bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 03:43 PM
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I've found that a good relationship and great sex go hand in hand much more often than not. As long as I don't fund a partner ugly, I can be content. I say this as someone who has slept with runway models, print models, and porn stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:55 PM
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My ex wife and I met in the Marines, so there's that. What I worry about though is that people use labels like 'strong woman' and 'alpha man' to describe bad behavior. There's a balance between having an opinion and not being scared to share it versus being 'opinionated'. Mental and emotional strength and strength of conviction is often unhelpful without the appropriate degree of wisdom to know when to use it. I think real strength is having an opinion but being humble enough to understand 1) ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:24 AM
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Also, my father told me to “accept the reality” that any man with options (ie, HV) will eventually cheat on his wife That depends on how you select men and how good your relationship skills are. I can tell you one thing is for sure though, if you neglect the physical side of a relationship for an excessive amount of time, don't be surprised if your partner cheats. That goes equally for men and women. Some people will turn to porn or trashy novels or whatever, either because they don't want to ch…
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/22 09:34 PM
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I think every day you don't tell them is an additional betrayal. I've cheated one time in my life and it was on the woman whom I would later marry. I told her the next day and holy shit was that difficult. The degree of shame I had for having hurt her was emotionally unbearable. To this day, I don't drink much when I'm in a relationship and around women who are not either family or my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:28 AM
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Regardless of how progressive a society is, women generally don't date down in terms of socio-economic status anywhere near the rates men do. So the following really won't work for men at all: You should attempt to attain a higher socio economic class because it improves your quality of life. Not because you are trying to get laid. Edit: my point is this is great advice for women but demonstrably terrible advise for men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:49 PM
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The amount of female privilege in your post is amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:36 PM
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I'm a couple of years older than you, so this may or may not help. Generally, no I don't filter out women above 30. My other filters are insanely high, so there's that. For a committed relationship, the woman needs to be in good physical and mental shape, calm/caring/kind/agreeable (but not a pushover), and roughly on par with my economic status. That filters out more than enough to the point where I'm not worried about age as much. All of the negative things associated with age that you see oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:09 PM
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They are now, but when male spaces were allowed, men had good support networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:40 PM
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FWIW, I like tall women. My exwife was 5ft11 (about .5" taller than me) and I've dated a couple women over 6ft. Some of them have tried to not appear taller by doing things like never wearing heels or bending at the knees when in heels to kiss me. I have to put a stop to that because it's unnecessary and a bit unintentionally demeaning ... just look down and kiss me. It in no way bothers me. Never have I ever though of a woman as intimidating because she's taller than me. The only women I've eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:36 AM
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This is the part that I don't understand. Being celibate isn't the same thing as abstaining from sex outside a committed relationship. If a woman told be she was celibate, as in no sex ever, then that's a hard pass. If she told me she's waiting to marriage then it's at least a caution flag. Depending on her past, it might be a giant red flag. If she told me that she's waiting for exclusivity in a committed relationship, then that either a caution flag or a giant green flag, depending on context …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:38 PM
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You're completely right, some do. You know the type when you see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:27 AM
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Nah, there's a huge difference. It's mostly about a give-and-take and a willingness to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:32 AM
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Tl;dr. Submissive? No thank you. Cooperative? Yes please.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:44 PM
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Being one of those guys who used to string women along for the purposes of sleeping with them, I have a different perspective. What you're dealing with is the outcome of the difference between how men and women approach sex. Most men will have NSA sex with a broader population of women than they'd commit to. Most women are the opposite. So if you're not (holistically) attractive enough for me to commit to, but I'm not attractive enough for you to be willing to have NSA sex with, then I still hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:00 PM
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It's just research on average and such. It obviously doesn't account for everyone's taste🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:38 AM
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I read some research a few years back that swimmer build are generally regarded as most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:10 PM
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I'll certainly agree with you on this. Of the women who are not over weight, initially, for me 10% fall into the category of "OMG, I want do fuck her brains out" and 10% fall into the category of "there's no way". The middle 80%, it's entirely based on how I feel about them as people and as I get to know them. As I get to know them, women in that top 10% can easily fall into the category of "there's no way" and I'd say 30% of women can fall into the category of "I want to fuck her brains out".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:34 PM
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The right answer is "whatever your goals are, just stay healthy". Seriously, this entire line of "what body shape should I aim for to attract men" isn't it. Just stay healthy and do whatever floats your boat - you'll attract the right men just by doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:26 PM
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I happen to moatly agree with you. However, I'm physically very fit and my closest friends are as well. Appearance wise, the only thing I hang with is a woman with a severely recessed chin. As far as not wanting a woman who has had a lot of sexual partners, I think that makes sense for most men who also haven't had a lot of sexual partners. It is a strong predictor of marital problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:19 PM
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/s 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:29 AM
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It's not? I figured it was because of her oldie "touched like a virgin"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:28 AM
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I was certainly a fuckboy. Even to this day, I really don't give two shits if some women say that don't want to be approached at work/gym/wtf-ever. Not all people are anti-social & I have no way of knowing until I try and strike up a conversation. So I just assume most people aren't anti-social and don't mind an innocent conversation, that may or may not lead to flirting or me asking for contact info (we'll see how the convo flows). I'd say most of the time, I'm just trying to strike up a conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:08 AM
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I'm 100% straight (never messed around with a guy), but I don't discuss past sexual partners or things like that, it's only ever lead to jealousy. I've hooked up with a couple of models and porn stars and other interesting experiences. Women just don't need to know about all that because it's not like I'm comparing them or anything, but they'll get self conscious anyways. Plain Jane is A+ for me. With all that said, I'd be shocked if any guy who was previously bi or messed around with another gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:57 AM
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just Youtube that shit lol Yep, it's a learned helplessness and it's very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:35 PM
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Preach sister, preach. I dated a woman that couldn't figure out how to change the aerator on her faucet or change out an air filter on the HVAC. We didn't date long. I'm sure most women have stories about guys who couldn't do the same basic sort of "adulting" skills. I mean, you don't have to be a Michilen star chef or a mechanical engineer. These are just basic life skills IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:02 PM
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Personality: she has to be calm, caring, kind, compassionate, and smart. She must also have an exceedingly high degree of integrity. Behaviors: she has to be in decent physical shape (fitness is very important to me), and she must have good conflict resolution skills & self discipline. Economic: Either she must have an altruistic career or she needs to be close to my level financially. I'm divorced with no kids. Thankfully, the divorce was amicable and simple because we were both junior officers…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:08 AM
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From a guy whose a probably a little bit older to what sounds like a guy in his early to mid 20s: you need to pick better women. The biggest mistake I see men make is prioritizing the wrong thing when you pick women to pursue in dating. As long as you don't find a woman physically unattractive, I promise you that personality, maturity, and intelligence are way more important that her looks. I promise you that after you've had enough sex, you'll figure out that the brain is the biggest and most i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:13 AM
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The latter for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:51 AM
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Yep. Same advise that men tell women - "pick better". Op just needs to pick better women. Edit: I catch some shit for this - but I have high standards 🤷‍♂️. If she can't cook, clean, do basic repairs, and isn't either roughly on my level financially or in an altruistic career then we're not compatible. That doesn't even touch on personality issues : calm, kind, compassionate, caring, wise, and smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:40 AM
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Women will never understand the visceral reaction that a man gets when he knows his girl has been run through. That's not true at all. I worked in management consulting for a few years after I left the Corps. There were a couple partners who were known to frequent prostitutes. The visceral reaction that women had to that is on par.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:38 PM
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Lol. Buddies wife tried this. He burned through 300k in savings on cocaine and hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:37 PM
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A good ass for me is more an issue of underlying muscular shape with the right percentage of body fat. 🤷‍♂️ Everyone's different I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:58 PM
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30-something guy's perspective here. As long as you don't find someone physically unattractive, there are more important things to build a relationship on. Men jokingly call it the crazy vs hot scale. I think of love as a ratio of different types of love - from lust at one end to 'companionate' or 'old couple love' at the other end. It's not so much that physical attraction ends than it becomes relatively less important as the relationship progresses, but it still needs to be there at some level…
/r/RedPillWomen15/11/22 06:10 AM
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Requirements? I don't want short kids but it's more important that they have a good mother. So I'd say I have preferences but not requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:06 PM
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I had a cuddle buddy that I had previously hooked up with a few year before. We were strictly friends at that point and would watch tv and sleep in the same bed. I never wanted anything more that what she and I had. I wouldn't say this is normal, but it certainly happens. I know a married guy who will cuddle with his lesbian best friend. His wife is a raging alcoholic, in and out of rehab and all that. He just can't leave her while the kids are young because he's afraid what will happend to them…
/r/RedPillWomen14/11/22 09:48 PM
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You mean like 10 in the past year?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:20 PM
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I'm a guy and this is exactly the case for me. As long as I don't find a woman unattractive, I can be happy. The quality of sex I've had has been influenced more by how well we match in terms of personality as opposed to how hot she is. I'd also rather have a partner who is beautiful instead of hot. Edit: I certainly have a type I go crazy for. It's just that I don't need that in a partner to be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:23 AM
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Counter point ... I've slept with a lot of women, but when it comes to dating, I have a couple of "types" personality wise (smart, calm, caring, very high integrity, etc) and I just find it better to say "I don't kiss and tell" with a bit of a cheeky tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:14 PM
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This is sorta a toxic idea. I wouldn't even think to approach a partner with this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:29 PM
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I'm confused, are you arguing for marital rape then? I sure hope not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:12 PM
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People confuse love with infatuation all the time. "Settling" for a woman you're not infatuated with doesn't seem like settling to me. Real love takes a couple years to develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:03 AM
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It would be nice if a lesbian-straight men kind of friendship existed the way gay men-straight women kind of exists I've had a few close friendships with butch lesbians. They've been awesome 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:25 PM
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but men dont go through menopause and periods Young boys have to learn how to control the psychological effects of testosterone because it's constant, not a couple days a month, & they spend most of their time in an environment organized by women for girls, public education. Best analogy I can make is imagine the psychological effects of you periods, 24/7, while in something close to bootcamp. Not the right emotional environment. That's what school is to most young boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:24 PM
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Men dont have the whack hormones women can have. Yes we do. Testosterone is a hell of a drug and we have to learn to control it's effects otherwise we end up dead, in prison, or homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:23 AM
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One word: integrity. Either they have it or they doesn't, most don't. A lot of people don't even consider it when looking for a mate or they select for traits that are at odds with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:04 PM
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1000% this. Romance and lust ebb & flow, but the calmer love is the solid bedrock to build a family & life upon. Also, many people can't distinguish between feelings vs choice. At somepoint you have to take charge of your feelings and make decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:27 AM
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Ty for this! You made my night. I remember listening to my older brother's old CDs when I was a kid. Anyways - It's also a serious question. There are different types of love. Lust, romantic, familial, companionate, etc. Too many people have too narrow of a definition IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:08 AM
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What is love?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:58 AM
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It's creepy AF dude. Having said that, on my second deployment we did take a young Private to a brothel in Europe to loose his virginity during a couple day layover.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:26 PM
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Lack of humility sucks, even if they're not smart. It's like someone talking about their 1RM on squat or deadlift.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:08 PM
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I agree that's the case for most women. But I have seen some amazing transformations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:18 PM
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I'd say a man that wouldn't date a woman who is smarter is roughly equivalent to a woman that wouldn't date a man that's shorter. In both cases, you have someone that has major self-esteem issues. I'm in finance in NYC and before that I was in the Corps. Ex-wife was also in the Corps but I've dated some really smart women: a professor, a detective, a partner at a law firm, etc. A good number of women I've dated were smarter than me and the woman who was a partner at the law firm made more than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:48 PM
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Hard disagree. I've dated models and fucked pornstars. But for a relationship? I found 'just looks' insufficient in my early 20s. For a relationship, I'd take a 5/6 over a 9/10 if we're close enough to the same level on most other things (intelligence, sense of humor, morals & values, physical fitness, career, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:38 PM
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Because what matters more, by several orders of magnitude, is the ability of a partner to hear constructive feedback and be willing to act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:37 PM
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These are wiser words that most will hear all year. Applicable to almost anything from sex to relationships to career.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:20 PM
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I know a lot of people (mainly women) who aren’t the best at telling if a guy they are sleeping with wants to be serious, and end up raising their n counts in hopes of a relationship. This is a seriously overlooked situation. My heart breaks for those women, even having been one of those guys in the past. This is the main reason why I stopped being an FB - I started to see the hurt I was causing these types of women. I think a major contributing factor here is a breakdown of the traditional dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:45 PM
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"Plenty" can varry from statically insignificant to a minority, eg 49%. Either way, from what I understand from my gay and bi male friends, then "plenty" you're referring to are either older guys or approx 15% of younger guyals.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:41 PM
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I'm only mildly religious and I've been a man-slut, but if a woman had a "no sex before marriage rule" and she was otherwise a match, it wouldn't stop me from dating her provided other options were on the table. I know most guys aren't like that, but I do think it's a bit short sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 03:37 PM
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The best way I can describe it is it's similiar to how some women feel about men who have visited sex workers. I'm not saying they're rightfully equivalent actions, just that the affect that some men feel for high n-count women can be best described as the same feeling some women feel about men who have visited sex workers (or men who are bisexual).
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/22 02:14 AM
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This is correct. True low self esteem crave the attention and validation of others. What OP should be looking for is a man that is principled and has integrity.
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/22 03:15 AM
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There is such thing as emergent norms of behavior. I think it's well understood that it doesn't always apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:26 PM
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Nearest I can tell, the disgust that men have for promiscuous women is closer to how women feel about men who pay for sex. The negative emotional and relationship impacts for highly promiscuous women are very close and nearly identical to those of men. We are just socially programmed to accept one more readily than the other due to the social impacts of a higher sex drive in men (due to higher testosterone).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:30 AM
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Men who are interested in a relationship won't mind waiting for a while.
/r/RedPillWomen05/10/22 02:30 AM
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No. There's a difference between preferences and requirements. For example, most men prefer large breats, but only an idiot would make that a firm requirement. Even then, not everyone has the same preferences. For example, I prefer Bs ... but my ex-wife had large Cs and most of my long-term gf's have been well endowed. So my preferences are different that the average man and this preference doesn't impact my relationship history. I think most men are like this, certainly to a larger extent than …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:27 AM
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This seems very similar to the issue with the WNBA. The content doesn't appeal to most men nor enough women to make it sufficiently profitable. There are creators who have made a ton of money by focusing their content on a niche audience (e.g. Tyler Perry movies for black folk, soap opera & daytime talk hosts for women, etc.). There have also been female creators that have made content that has mass appeal (see almost all of Kathrym Bigelow's work, Hustler from '19, A League of their Own, Frozen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 02:27 PM
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God I hope so. I've never liked the physical or psychological effects is has on people. Don't get me wrong, I have my preferences. But in practice, it hasn't affected who I find attractive as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:16 PM
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It's attention seeking behavior and is therefore inappropriate from someone in a relationship. No different that a partner posting cute or sexy pictures.
/r/RedPillWomen25/09/22 03:09 PM
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That's fcking vile It generally takes men longer to form an emotional connection through sex. It still happens, just slower. This shouldn't be surprising as we generally have relatively less oxytocin and estrogen while also having more testosterone. This difference is observable in the differences in male vs female homosexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 01:09 PM
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You'd have to either be naive or willfully ignorant to either think that woman don't abuse at roughly the same rate or that men aren't more likely to cause more physical harm when the do abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:44 PM
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ironically when you start hormones a bunch of men thirsty to fuck you loses a lot of appeal Testosterone is a hell of a drug. but they prefer to do so in secret That's pretty shitty, sty to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:51 AM
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For every attractive trans woman there’s like 200 men looking for one. A friend of mine from the Corps transitioned after she got out. Can confirm based on her stories, but the way she tells in, 199 of those 200 aren't going to be in a relationship, especially if she's not 100% passable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:17 AM
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We all get uglier as we age, it just happens that: women have father to fall. A top 80% woman is likely objectively seen as an 8 or 9 by most men whereas a top 80% man is probably seen as a 5 or 6 by most women. men's desirability depends comparably less on their looks If you age gracefully and maintain a healthy lifestyle (including the use of sunscreen if you're fair skinned), then you don't have much to worry about for 2 reason: while you may be less attractive, you won't be ugly. companionat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:16 AM
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That decision has already been made - women are allowed in all combat roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:58 PM
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Just because you don't think about them doesn't mean they don't think about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:21 AM
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The selective service registration requirements is the issue, not the draft. Until the law changes, the law is inherently unequal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:17 AM
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US. Tell that to your grandfather that served in Nam and had friends die from agent orange or your older cousin that was dealing with the results of burn pits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:04 AM
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OP seems to be looking for a blue ribbon benefits plan just for having a penis, without actually serving in any capacity I don't see it that way. I see it as an issue of a retainer. You could say the same thing for obese vs non-obese people. I don't see why a male citizen/resident who isn't obese has to bare the burden of service while others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:01 AM
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This has been my experience as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:54 AM
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I know all too well. Username - Ramadi '06
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:45 AM
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Depends. I dated a woman who lost weight when she quit playing rugby and started crossfit. From diet to workout & sleep schedules to abstaining from most alchohol and all drugs, I've lived a fairly disciplined life since I was a teen and I'm now in my 30s. My lifestyle just wouldn't be compatible with someone who doesn't take their fitness and health as serious as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:34 AM
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They're so bad it's a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:24 AM
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I say this a a Marine veteran of several deployments, including my first to Ramadi in '06: unless my country was directly attacked, I would do everything in my power to get my sons out of the country if women and rich people weren't filling combat roles proportionate to their numbers in society. The inevitability of major wars is close to obvious for anyone paying attention, except maybe some of the first few counties involved in WW1 and WW2.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:23 AM
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GTFO with "military benefits"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:14 AM
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Majority of people ;) Same in the US though. An overweight woman and I simply wouldn't have compatible lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:22 PM
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As long as a woman isn't objectively ugly or overweight, as long as she takes decent care of her hygiene, then there are more important things to me. I've had great and terrible sex with both smoking hot and average women, so 🤷‍♂️ A pleasant attitude, a sharp mind, and a smile will get me (and most men) anyday, so you might be seeing the effects of this with your friends. That's why some guys tell women they should smile more ... because they're pretty but they put out offputting vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:13 PM
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When I was younger, I had a preference for women from hard-working, religious families that weren't averse to blue collar lifestyle l (me being in the Corps at the time). These days, I want to see that she's either in an altruistic field or is close to the same level as me. Not sure I'd marry a woman from outside the US and bring her here. There are plenty of good women who don't cave to american social norms, but there are a lot who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 07:51 PM
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As someone in their early 30s looking to get remarried, I can promise you there is a shortage of marriageable women my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:10 AM
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100%. I've found that as long as I don't find a partner ugly, then other things become more important and impact attraction more as the relationship progresses.
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/22 03:34 AM
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It was only partial military service until 2000. Up until that time, women were prohibited from direct combat ground units.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:07 PM
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So only the swole women that want to wind up in combat roles. Not in a draft scenario. Uncle Sam would lower the standards quicker than you can blink an eye. It's already happening and were not even in a draft scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:54 PM
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That's exactly the issue. I'm a vet in my early/mid 30s and I get the sense that these younger men wouldn't fight for US interests unless the country was directly attacked. If there was a draft right now for either a Vietnam-style conflict or to defend another country (Europe, Taiwan, etc), I fully expect a massive number of young men would renounce their citizenship and leave. No society has survived when the young men refuse to fight for it's interests (let alone it's direct safety). You don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:51 AM
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women in a liberal one That has yet to be seen. Such a society, being liberal to the modern extent, has not yet survived a significant war
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:36 AM
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The bigger problem is that young men will not risk their lives to defend a society they don't beleive in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:48 PM
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The first, hands down. That's not realistic in our society though, especially "for your entire life".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:08 PM
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I cheated because my fiance (later wife) wasn't initiating and I ran into an exgf at a bar and she came on strong to me. It felt nice to be wanted. I ended up telling my fiance the next day. The shame was overwhelming. Never cheated since - I just avoid the type of situations where it's likely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:48 PM
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during her lunch break My ex wife was an Officer of Marines with 3 combat tours. You and I are a different class of people buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:49 AM
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Lol, my sister moved in with her so I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:42 AM
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due to selfishness. That's the root cause right there. For a marriage to be successful long term, you both have to put the marriage above everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:47 PM
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I'm with you 100%, it's entirely possible. My ex-wife and I were both faithful during our deployments. We certainly weren't the norm, but not a rarity either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:44 PM
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I've often said that our language really inhibits how we think of love. Erotic love is a feeling, mature love is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 02:18 AM
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Don't take it that way ... hear me out. EVERY. SINGLE. high performing organizations does NOT have time for that kind of bullshit. So almost every person I've seen do this kind of shit is NOT in a high performing organization. So in a way, eventhough they're cutting you out from opportunity, it really isn't a good opportunity. I'm telling you right now, higher performing people value most working with other high performing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:35 PM
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Mostly, they're pretty useless with their hands, you can take that however you want. They also often don't know how to respond to "direct communication" ... so yeah, sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:30 PM
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As in they're less likely to do business with minorities with similar qualifications? The racists are, yes. And do they usually say "because he's X race"? Or do they justify it via other reasons? They're smart enough to justify it some other way. Malcom X has a clip about foxes on this topic. I've been trying to give people opportunities for a while now, but it's just something I did. I've never been performative about it because that's frankly using those folks. In reality, I get along better w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:27 PM
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Not extending the same opportunity to people when it's otherwise not a big inconvenience. You see it in business relationships all the time. One word .... access
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:18 PM
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Noodling ... sounds like country lifestyle vs city lifestyle. You don't find too many upperclass whites doing it ;) Yeah, upperclass whites are less obvious about being racist, but once I started catching on, I noticed it seems more common than what I grew up around in Appalachia. Having said that, even though I don't have kids, I can understand parental preference for different schools ... if that preference is based on concrete issues (school discipline issues, test scores, class availablility…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:06 PM
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I grew up in eastern TN and eastern KY, so culture is different out there. Education (mil and civilian) wasn't seen as important where I grew up and it was stressed a lot more in the Corps if you wanted to improve your chances at promotion. Obviously, it's very important in my line of work now. As the poster above me mentioned, what are considered socially acceptable approaches to handle conflict is very different. Those norms are violated on occasion, but they are indeed very different. Pastime…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:26 PM
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I feel this in my soul. I grew up poor AF and now I work in investment banking. The cultural differences after I got out of the Corps and started my MBA were extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:58 PM
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Honestly, this makes me sick to my stomach to think about someone divorcing their spouse when they're sick/down on their luck/hit a rough patch in their job/etc. I'd shun anyone I knew who did such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:19 AM
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In an ideal world, I'd rather not have a career oriented woman but I wouldn't get hunf up on it. I married my first wife young and she was very career minded, but I didn't care either way because we were building a life together. However, given legal realities, I'm not willing to marry someone outside my tax bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:47 PM
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In most states, women can still have an abortion up until a certain point and in all states, women can surrender the baby to a safe haven if the baby is under a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:13 PM
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Women can terminate the life unilaterally to end their obligations and they can surrender their babies after they're born to safe havens. At the very least, men should be able to end their obligations within 30 days of being informed about a child so the woman can either have an abortion or surrender the baby to a sage haven.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:12 PM
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Getting rid of child support, no, fuck that guy. Oh, that's an interesting one that I'd love peel back. So if a woman can unilaterally abandon her responsibilities to the life she helped create, why can't a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:05 PM
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As long as you stay in decent shape and make a moderate amount of effort to look good on occasion, the answer is yes. What matters is less what you're born with and more what you do with it. And of course, the mental, emotional, and vibe aspects are more important than what you're born with. Edit: just saw your treniton pictures, you have more than enough natural good looks. What matters now is what you make of it. People really underestimate the importance of the vibe you're putting out.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/22 12:30 AM
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Of course you're 100% right, I just couldn't resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:17 AM
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how high is the floor? 6 ft, 6 pack, 6 inches, 6 figures
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:25 PM
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Hey, just letting you know that this is your sign that you have poor leadership at work. High performing / high status men also have to deal with the similair dynamics in toxic work cultures. That's why the best advice I can give you is to seek out higher performing teams to be a part of - they simply won't have the time or emotional energy to put up with the kind of toxicity you're describing.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 08:27 PM
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Yeah, allow her to womansplain your friends to you or else you're sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:17 PM
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Sorry, but I can't comment on the average sexual prowess of early 20-something men. Gl with them though. I imagine there just as bad as early 20-something women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:33 AM
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Only older guys who haven't done it. The vast majority of younger 20-somethings are horrible in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:04 AM
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Yes. While I might find a woman at 20 physically attractive, I sure don't want to date or even hook up with her. I think most men are the same. I'm in my early to mid 30s and the youngest I'd consider is 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:12 PM
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If I were a woman? No. I'd have still joined the Marines. There's something "wifey" to me about a woman who is willing to do a blue collar job to get by. I'd try to be that woman and attract the kind of guy who appreciates that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:04 PM
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This is EXACTLY what I do. Could be anywhere - grocery store, subway/metro, etc. It works far better than a club or crowded bar because women can actually get a feel for your demeanor. If you just walk up to a woman and be like "yo shawty, let me hit dat", well don't be surprised when that doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:21 PM
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That may be true. Still don't care enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:49 PM
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Oh, I see it very clearly. I was in Ramadi in 2006 at 18 & I've seen the cost firsthand. On the otherhand, I fully understand what the economic and diplomatic implications for the US and citizens of other countries if Russia and/or China exert significant influence. I just don't care enough to lay down my life or the lives of my sons for others who choose to not protect themselves. I also don't think the impact to myself and my legacy is worth the risk to my life or the lives of my future childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:19 PM
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Not enough for me to care about to risk my life or the life of my future children. If Europe is unable or unwilling to defend themselves, I don't see it as our/my responsibility. Edit: I think the combined willingness & ability of American men to defend American interests via a prolonged war that entails a draft, outside an existential threat, is very low & trending downward.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:33 PM
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Absolutely. Russia is not doing well. I still wouldn't risk my life or the lives of future children for Europe's protection. Unless the US was invaded, I wouldn't do it again anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:43 PM
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therefore fielded better armies Some people might be dismissive of your points but I think you're spot on and that scares the shit out of me. If there was a draft due to a war with China or Russia, I don't see enough able bodied men sticking around unless those countries attacked attacked US territory. I don't feel particularly vested enough to risk my life unless the country is under direct attack and even then I might consider leaving. Never mind risking my life for our 'allies' that have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:02 AM
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I think you're neglecting to consider that people choose to surrender to these norms. Most sane people I know, of either gender, don't don't require most ofthese things of a partner. Are they ideals? Yes. Are they realistic? No. Do most people require these of a partner? Again, no. Btw - the picture you linked is like damn near perfect for me Let's take the women's standards. Of these, the only things you listed that I really require of someone I'm willing to date is to be physically in good sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:46 PM
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Some people have an amazing ability to not confront hard truths, especially if it forces them to take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:57 PM
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Firstly, men with options, especially ones who are currently plate spinning, will be harder to lock down in general. Secondly, men who are naturally non-committal (with you) won't suddenly, magically become different overnight. What does this mean in practice? One, there is no FWB to BF pipeline. ... I used to be "that guy" and you're 100% correct. It's like other men instinctively understand what's going on and some woman are willfully ignorant. If I have access to several women at any time, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:22 PM
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If someone is going to mug you or whatever, they're probably going to have a knife or a gun. A "strong big man" isn't going to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 02:33 PM
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Lol, some of you short girls are crazy. You've probably never seen real violence so the only thing you understand is height as a proxy for a man's ability to protect. In some way, I envy the comfortable life you've lived but in other ways I'm concerned because you don't know what right looks like when it comes to real skill and courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:01 AM
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Do yourself a favor and go to an MMS or BJJ gym and you'll get an appreciation for how much more important skill is than height or strength. I'm 5ft11 and jacked, and I've had my ass kicked my smaller guys plenty of times.They were just plain more skilled than I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:42 AM
2

You got some hangups you need to work through friend. No sane man is going to have s problem with you taking care of that solo, provided it doesn't interfere with the relationship
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/22 03:34 AM
5

Yikes, I ran into this in the past. Some girl I enjoyed spending time with wanted to wait a couple of months. I was still hooking up with a FWB and some other side chick. She found out somehow and was really really upset. We never talked about being exclusive so 🤷‍♂️. I didn't want to push things faster than she was comfortable with and apparently she didn't want to have the exclusivity discussion so she just assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:06 PM
1

I try to do fun things for dates. The idea of chatting over dinner, having the same boring conversation again and again with different women seems like a giant waste of time. I'd rather check out a new exhibit at a museum, a comedy club, or the botanical gardens. Pretty much anything other than dinner. For me, my time is much more valuable to me than a couple hundred. So my "investing" is actually my time. I'd easily pay to end a bad date early and have a couple of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:17 AM
1

I had a cuckquean gf a few years back. It was interesting at first but I wanted to stop and she wasn't having it. Will never do anything like it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:46 AM
3

I had a cuckquean gf a few years back. It was interesting at first but I wanted to stop and she wasn't having it. Will never do anything like it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:46 AM
3

Way to use horrible examples. Hank's first wife groomed him when he was in HS and she was in college. The had kids out of wedlock and later married. Not sure that's a good example. Williams didn't so much leave his first wife as much as she got fed up with his cheating. Good for her I say. Women should avoid men with such impulse control problems. Harvey's first wife didn't support his dream of being a comedian. He was dirt broke when he left her. Jobs was only ever married once, so I don't know…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:27 AM
5

1000% It's entirely a character issue and IMO, that's a large part of what one should consider "high value" in a partner. The problem is, many people select for partners with traits that increase the probability of poor character. Both genders do this, I just see women doing this more.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/22 06:21 PM
30

It's more the type of guy you're going after. Look at Hugh Jackman and his wife to realize that plenty of HVM can stay loyal. The problem some women get into is a lot of the traits they find desirable is a man also increase the probability that he'll be unfaithful.
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/22 12:12 PM
3

Some part of it is that women generally have challenges with accountability. The other part is that these characteristics matter less than men think and more than women think. For the vast majority of women, as long as you're at or above "their level" on these dimensions, then things like character, sense of humor, etc matter much more. What amazes me is how women genuinely don't see how their views conflict with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:15 PM
1

I don't get the reference, but I've dated plenty of women who aren't my type physically and had good relationships. Physically, the only things I'm not willing to compromise on are being overweight (lifestyle issue) and a severely recessed chin. Almost everything else is negotiable.🤷‍♂️ Things I don't care about that women seem to care a lot about - boobs, butts, stretch marks, a little cellulite, etc. Of course I have preferences, but those things aren't high enough on the list to even bother w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:01 PM
1

There are a lot of failed relationships out there so there might not be as much of a difference as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:23 PM
18

It feels patronizing, infantalizing. This right here is why I generally refuse to do it. I view it as an inability to develop strong problem solving and coping skills. Most of my relationships are also with women who some might say are stereotypically more masculine than the average woman. I just view them as strong, capable women 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:22 PM
7

I would call it "wrongly educated." Be that as it may, all of these folks have an MBA from an Ivy or Stanford. So by any reasonable definition, they are also highly educated.
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/22 02:40 AM
4

I'm in my early-to-mid 30s and I grew up poor so I didn't have a cell growing up. After HS, I shipped Paris Island and then Camp Lejune and then straight to Iraq. I didn't have a cell until I was almost 20 so I never really got into texting and Instagram and all that. There are more guys than you think who aren't into carrying long conversations over txt.
/r/RedPillWomen14/06/22 12:17 AM
13

You can want what you want but be aware you're going against emerging social norms. Most of the younger guys I know are highly educated and have fully bought into "women are equal in ever way" and would balk at the idea of always paying for a gf.
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/22 11:50 PM
2

I've talked to some of my vet bros (mostly fellow 03xx Marines) that have had women try this on them. To a man, they all found it funny as hell that these type of women think we care about their opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:41 PM
1

“Athletic” is the new “Morbidly obese but played football in junior high”. Athletic as in I like to watch football 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:58 AM
2

"It's a fedora m'lady" Sorry, couldn't resist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:53 AM
13

When guys say a woman's standards are too high, there's an implied rest of the sentence that nobody wants to talk about. The entire statement should be "your standards are too high for what you're asking for and what you bring to the table". If you want 6ft, 6 figures, 6 pack, and 6 inches then you need to ask yourself why a guy like that would pick you? He might have sex with you, but a relationship and a truly committed relationship? Bonuses in my department range from 100k on the low end on u…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:16 PM
7

My ex-wife, not even close. I've had sex with better looking women but it wasn't better sex. My best sex is always in committed relationships. I can have decent sex outside a committed relationship, but there's no comparison. No. I left her for reasons and wouldn't want to open that emotional can of worms. Not often at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:44 AM
2

Your SMV as a woman is relatively much higher than your RMV and it looks like you're running into that reality. Before I made some lifestyle choices, I was a bit too promiscuous. During that time, I'd put women into one of three categories, in ranked order - date, sex, no sex.
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/22 01:21 PM
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Not putting up with a someone's shitty behavior is having standards and everyone should have standards. I don't think that's what OP is referring to. I think they're referring to using one person's shitty behavior to justify turning down a different guy solely because guy #2 is your height or only slightly taller, is only making around what you make, or for some other foolish criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:37 PM
3

Something that appears organic and natural. I live in Manhattan so I bump into people all the time. Most people up here worry about crazies so they don't talk to each other often. I wear nice suits to work, so for the majority of the time during the week, almost nobody would confuse me with a crazy. I'm certain that really helps. But a big part is in reading people's vibe. If I sense overtly negative energy, as opposed to caution, I won't engage others. As for examples... One example is offering…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:07 AM
3

If the majority of women are saying they don’t want to be approached This is really strange to me because my success rate is about 20% in cold approaching women. I have to create a seemingly organic situation to approach, but it generally works. I'd say 40% aren't interested in me specifically and 40% aren't interested in anyone cold approaching. And this is the great part. I couldn't care less. If people want to be a social recluse, then don't leave your house/appartment. I'm under no obligatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:33 PM
12

I really hate full censorship. I'm fine shadow banning those subs, but we shouldn't be fully censoring them. All you do is push them underground where those folks are far less likely to run into alternative viewpoint. I think the right thing to do is inhibit but not stop people from getting on the "on ramp" but make it really easy for people to get on the "off ramp".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:36 AM
2

What do I consider high? Certainly anything higher than your (age-10). I'm a bit of a reformed man-slut and I don't like talking about my past with women I'm dating. I've be rejected a good number of times when women find out my number. I honestly don't know it. It's north of 150 but probably south of 200. It's too high in all honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:31 PM
3

I think people have been sold romance and lust instead of love. I also think because confuse love as an action versus the feeling of being loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:28 PM
1

Probably, yeah. But I married young, so there's a slight difference there ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:37 AM
1

Which part? Also, part of my requirements for dating is she has to be making close to my income and anytime I mention that, I get torn apart. So it goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:21 AM
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I have run into a lot of men who expect a woman to wear makeup, have her hair and nails done, dress nice, also cook and bake, but they aren't masculine in the protector, provider sense. Do you expect a man to shave and/or have a nearly groomed beard, have a decent hair style, dress nice, and also know how to do basic household chores and repairs? Congrats, you have reasonable standards. Because of how expensive it is to be a female It can be just as expensive to be a well put together man. Any g…
/r/RedPillWomen25/05/22 05:00 AM
2

4 4 8 Not the success I want. I used to be a man-slut and I'd only date 7's or above. Ex-wife is definitely an 8 in looks. I've reached the point where I've realized that my requirements in other areas of my life are more important to me than just looks and I've had good relationships with women who I wouldn't have dated before. I'm not saying I don't find these women attractive, I do. They're just not objectively as attractive as women I dated in the past. But once I'm about ~6-9 months into a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:12 AM
2

Your problem is you're chasing after unicorns. Ive found that after you're in a relationship for a couple of years, looks matter a LOT less than personality. As long as I don't find a woman unattractive, I'd usually be open to date her. I guess that's a tradeoff I've made because my other requirements are very extensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:55 PM
5

Direct about what? What are women supposed to do, periodically check in with a friend and say “Like, just so you know, I am not attracted to you. I’m never, ever everever going to date you or have sex with you.” If they ask you out, just be direct in shooting them down. If they lack the intestinal fortitude to ask directly, that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:49 PM
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Oh my god, I’ve never seen a man admit the “friendzone” is due to one-sided romantic interest. That's one of the drivers, I think the other is probably women not being direct. The problem is, a lot of people have not been raised with enough social skills. So you have men who react poorly to a clear but kind rejection and you have women who lack the skills to deliver a clear but kind (or at least no mean) rejection. Both of those are indicative of various degrees of insufficient social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:34 PM
1

Generally speaking, men tend to discount negative risk outcomes more often than women do. If you lookup Dunning-Krueger, you might be able to find some research that one of them did previously that demonstrates than men are more susceptible to it than women. Same sort of thing. Testosterone is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:30 PM
1

It's applied in some jurisdictions when a man tries to refute paternity. For example, if he's performed in a father-like role (by paying for housing, healthcare, disciplining the child, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:05 AM
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NY does and I think NJ and PA as well, and possibly more. The concept is called "equitable estoppel".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:38 AM
1

Marriage is a financial contract to split your earnings going forward. I know this applies to current law and all, but that doesn't mean it had to be this way. The Roman's didn't have such a practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:39 AM
1

You live with the mother and she doesn't pay rent. You help her with her bills. She asks you to go to PTA meetings and parent-teacher conferences so you go thinking you're supporting her, you go with her and the child to the child's sport games. You thought you were just being a good boyfriend, but now you've "acted like a father" and you're on the hook for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:36 AM
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People need to understand this. It depends on the jurisdiction of course, but in some states, if you perform in a parental role with a women living with, that can be enough for someone to owe child support. I know a couple of guys who would end up with a life sentence if they found themselves in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:33 AM
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The poster above you is correct. It happens in NY and I think NJ as well. Not sure about other states. Edit: looks like PA and a couple of other states as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:23 AM
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You are correct. If you marry the mother and "act like a parent", then in some jurisdictions you can be held accountable for child support. Combine that with common law marriages, and you can see how tha gets ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:21 AM
1

No, this one just doesn't happen. You're not responsible for a single mother's children just because you're dating them. If you live with them for a couple of years and 'act like a father', some jurisdictions will put you on the hook for child support. It's not very common, but some states do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:18 AM
11

I think there have been a couple of cases where someone pretended to be a legal parent to a child they knew wasn't theirs biologically for years then when they tried to split and claim "this isn't really my kid" they were forced to pay child support. It's can be a lot more nuanced than that. In some jurisdictions, the standard can be as low as a man "acted like a parent". It's really hard to not act like a parent if you're living with the mother. In most jurisdictions, there's an rebbutable pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:14 AM
1

There's a line between a wandering eye and enjoying the attention of other people, and that's engaging with others.
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/22 09:15 PM
2

I'm very average height (5ft10), above average looks, in really great shape, very sharp dresser, but pasty white & blond. And I couldn't agree with you more. Cold approach has always worked well for me. I don't go straight for asking for insta, snap, digits, because you have to work uo to that with some flirting. Once in a while I get an anti-social shrew who can't beleive I "have the nerve" to talk with her, but that's a minority. And frankly, I'm not even worried about the anti-socials, provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:11 PM
3

When I was married, my ex and I agreed to a pretty agreeable formula. After our joint expenses were taken care of, we split the difference based on our income ratios normed against a 50/50 split (unless we both agreed she was going to stay home with kids, then it was 50/50). So a 80/20 difference would be normed to 65/35. As far as women I've lived with, it's always 50/50. no exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:39 PM
5

Yep. If I'm looking for a relationship, I'm not sleeping with people on the side. That indicates to me someone who is low in self-control and conscientiousness.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/22 07:33 PM
1

if I say : I don’t have sex unless I m in a relationship is putting pressure on someone? Or like being manipulative in some way. Not at all. If I'm into a woman, I'll wait up to around 2 months if I think the relationship is worth it. If I later find out she was sleeping with anyone during that time period though, I'll end it. I've ended a 6 month relationship because she wanted to wait until we both were comfortable committing, which was about at week 6.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/22 05:42 PM
6

If his belt is in BJJ, that won't be the case. VERY few people out there with a black belt in BJJ.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/22 05:36 PM
1

Tl;dr - some people just aren't social. I won't let their lifestyles dictate mine, but I will respect their preference once I know. It largely depends on the context & the people involved. The more she's engrossed in something, the less receptive she will be. Headphones are a universal sign to not bother someone. If she's in the zone, let her be. That could mean heavy exercise, concentrating on work, or something. If you can never tell if someone is in the zone or not, you need to work on readin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:33 PM
5

You don't see how this sounds antisocial?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:56 PM
1

I have a high body count. I'm somewhat attractive, used to be very involved in the kink scene, good body, and somewhat blessed in terms of certain characteristics. I'd much rather have had more LTR and a lot less sexual partners, but that's not what life has given me. I know a big part of it is I'm very picky about commitment, much more so than who I'm willing to have sex with. I'd much rather have been making love with a wife or long-term partner than just sex with some Tinderella. But in absen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 02:35 AM
3

Read Aristotle. There are multiple translations of his work 'On Rhetoric' aka 'The Art of Rhetoric'. Then you can read some modern books on persuasion.
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/22 05:52 PM
11

Demonstrate empathy for the person you're arguing with, remain calm, stick to the facts, try to align end-goals with the other person. This is such an important skill.
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/22 03:36 PM
1

Army?🤬🤯 Re-read my post, fix that hate speech, and then I'll answer 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:14 AM
2

If you even know what the term means, then you understand that a measurable portion of trading volume is actually people playing poker but using assets instead of cards. Long-term value investing however tends to rise above these games.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:28 AM
8

Do you think men and women respond differently to combat, like are men able to better process and compatibilized it, or is it more 50-50 with both genders not knowing how to deal with it? It's more a function of how people are raised and individual differences than ingrained biological differences.The biggest biological difference is muscular endurance. A male has to work much less to achieve similiar levels of endurance. The biggest thing you can do as an individual investor is to understand va…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:18 AM
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Nah, my ex and I were solid. She just had a really rough deployment, including having to pick up the pieces of a friend and killing a couple of kids who were shooting at them. A had a couple of friends die on deployment, but there's a huge difference between seeing a friend get shot and then carrying his body back vs picking up the pieces of him and putting them into a body bag. Almost anyone would have a tough time with that. I wouldn't have left if she was willing to get help. As far as invest…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:58 PM
2

Not even the classics. More like open their eyes to the actual world instead of living in some ideological fantasy. I agree, but if they've failed to grasp the obvious because their ideology blinds them, then hopefully they can read some of the classics and figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:56 PM
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I'm a trader by background but I'm on loan to our wealth management division so I can gain experience dealing with high wealth clients. I live in Manhattan and work on the street. Before this, I was an Officer of Marines and before that, a Marine Rifleman. Married young to another Marine Officer who developed a severe drinking problem on account of PTSD that she wasn't willing to get help for, then divorced right before I left the Corps to start my MBA. By some people's definition, I've been suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:34 PM
15

This is chilling to read - this effectively is saying that your empathy towards your fellow man is reciprocal and thus if someone isn't "nice" to you then you not only don't care about them but wish them ill or won't treat them right. This is the very foundation for social trust and cooperation. How is this not obvious to you? You need to read the classics on political theory. The implication that people (women) are "not treating you right" by not fucking you? I would agree that this is pretty t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:32 PM
3

This should be obvious and it'll continue as long as women view economic status as a desirable trait in partners. Economic resources have traditionally been a significant part of man's relationship value. If a man has at any point been (relatively) successful economically and unsuccessful in finding a mate, he will of course look to address the things he perceives as negatively impacting his sexual/relationship status. Some of these things are more biological (height, bone structure, etc.) and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 06:13 PM
2

ROFLOL. If that's your motivation, you won't make it through the the Marine Infantry Officer Course at Quantico, let alone buds. GTFO with that BS. Just hit the gym, get marketable skills, and engage in a lot of self-reflection and meditation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:06 AM
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As every other well-socialized man is saying here, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:48 PM
5

But this isn't an advice forum for men. My point was that women should be expecting the same from their husbands ;)
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/22 07:43 PM
73

This is the secret to a happy marriage right here. It should go without saying though that this should be reciprocated by the husband.
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/22 02:51 AM
1

I've been in relationships where she has the higher libido. My general rule is I might occasionally be too tired for certain things (eg PIV sex with me in the active rome), but I'll always time out to help her get off in some kind of way. Hands, mouth, whatever. I just don't turn partners down, although I might not be in right headspace to be the active partner I normally prefer to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:50 PM
3

Not that I've noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:35 AM
7

Came here to chime in on the other side of this. I prefer tomboys, my ex-wife is a tomboy, and we both met in the Corps. But she could wear the shit out of a sun dress, change out of that, and go run a tough mudder or go do crossfit. Just because a woman can handle something physically or mentally tough doesn't mean she doesn't like to get all dolled up once in a while or do some knitting. Anyways, people who know me would describe me very much on the masculine side. I grew up around strong men …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:09 AM
1

Not everyone is as self-centered as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:02 PM
6

There are a lot of men who are intrinsically motivated by contributing to society as opposed to wealth accumulation. You'll often find them in non-profits, government & social-service, the military, teaching, first responders, etc. Even for men in industry, a lot of us reach a point of individual prosperity and want to have a broader positive impact. This often only gets stronger with age. These are the type of men who want to leave a legacy or impact, according to his ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:00 PM
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In with you 1000%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:01 AM
2

SEP - Someone Else's Problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:40 PM
3

The mother can but that doesn't obligated the man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:32 PM
2

now they're just nothing to him? He's free to do that, of That's a bit of oversimplification. He will likely resent those children and they deserve better than to be resented. At some point, you have to deal with reality instead of opinions and desires. The reality is, a lot of men would resent those children, and that's not something that will change. Those kids deserve better and no amount of shaming, complaining, or laws will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:32 PM
3

Sins of the mother and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:25 PM
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I'm waiting for the part where that's my problem. There was a thread earlier where a woman who had terminal cancer confessed that a couple's 3 yo twins might not be his, dna test confirmed. I'm not exaggerating when I saw I would force her to start the paperwork to give up the children for adoption so she could solve the problem she created instead of pawning it off on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:24 PM
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If it happened and she came clean right away, I might forgive her. If she held onto it for a week or more, then the trust is gone. Second time, we're done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:44 AM
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I never see men saying they don't want to marry a dead beat woman. I won't. In fact, I don't seriously date women unless they make close to what I do and I'm many times the average household income. I met my ex-wife when we were both junior officer in the Corps. Had we stayed together, I wouldn't have cared at all about what she makes because she would have been part of building me up. I would have gladly given her half and alimony. But her PTSD and alcoholism weren't something she wanted to dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:32 AM
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They both end up poorer because they don't have access to the other spouses income. You need to compare their pre-marriage lifestyle to their post marriage lifestyle to get an accurate picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:23 AM
3

I'll treat him more like a dildo. Who said losers can't be winners ? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:43 AM
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