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From my experience as a man and from views I’ve seen on here and other social media platforms, men are not intrinsically mad that you make them wait. It’s the fact that yall have two ledgers, and would much sooner sleep with a guy who’s not marriage material and partake in a ons’ while making marriage material potential partners wait longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:27 AM
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Why did you bring Tate into the conversation, when Tate actually clashes with the core mgtow philosophy? • He actively pursues women, status, and sexual dominance • He promotes a hyper-masculine, patriarchal model, not withdrawal • His worldview is about control and hierarchy, not disengagement • MGTOW says: “avoid the game” Tate says: “win the game and dominate it”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:33 AM
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Notice how the person above brought Tate into the conversation (I assume as a shaming tactic).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:30 AM

It’s delusional, women want a better man than them, and then fight for a lifetime to emasculate the man and make him equal or less than.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:55 AM
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Women can’t become true passport sisters due to hypergamy. Men in the west already make way more than their counterparts in the developing/ 3rd world. Why would a high earner male in the above mentioned parts of the world marry a woman from the west when they can get the cream of the crop in their respective countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:18 AM
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What a bunch of bull shit!! If I have to feed a brokie at a local “chic restaurant” and have the drinks flowing for her to have sexual feelings for me then she’s definitely not attracted to me. I stopped doing foodie dates early on a few years back…call it a life lesson. Unless she’s from my community, my wider social circle, or comes with a parental-friend seal of approval, I’m not leading with a tasting menu. Build some rapport first, then we can eat fancy. No way I’m spending my hard earned m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:51 PM
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Bruh, idk, what you’ve described in your first couple of paragraphs is a self imposed humiliation ritual. If I was in your shoes I’d focus more on getting the weight down. At 250 with your body frame, you’re close to 39 bmi. You have no business holding women’s stuff as they go to the bathroom, you should focus more on yourself on cardio and getting to a healthy weight. It’s ok to be nice to women and compliment them but please don’t become their overweight bar Sherpa. Also, if you are overly co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:15 AM

Idk, i don’t think being hierarchical automatically equates to being a “follower”. Most of the hierarchies I’ve been part of were based on competence where status is earned, tested, and it’s also contactable. Leadership is often situational and authority can be revoked if competence disappears.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:08 PM

Maybe you should get somebody (a man preferably) to guide you into understanding 🤷🏻‍♂️, but based on how you worded your absolutist comment, I doubt you have what it takes to compute new information and gain understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:40 PM
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You should read the book: king, warrior, magician, lover by Robert Moore & Douglas Gillette Also work by Mircea Eliade Basically: Moore: Without rites of passage, men can’t fully become psychologically mature. Eliade: Ritual transitions reenact sacred myths and reintegrate individuals into deeper cultural and cosmic orders. Moore argues for psychological rites to integrate archetypes. Eliade argues that initiation rituals symbolically return initiates to sacred origins and restructure identity. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:18 PM
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Haha yall are on anti depressants because you wanted to be equals and now all of a sudden can’t cope with it. I do have empathy for the women in the third world though, they are the ones that still have unsolved “women’s issues”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:05 PM
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I’ve seen women (usually older mid 30s) like this kind of content on instagram. I know the grinder republican flare up was a thing, but I don’t think a preponderantly high number of gay men trick women into marrying them outside of religious fringes. OP might be a troll or they’ve been spending too much time in the misandrist corners of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:54 PM
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Don’t women do the same when they say: “ I need my man to be more emotionally available” and then they get the ick when the guy opens up? Also, I’ve never seen a man demand empathy from women. Men know from observing their mothers (at least the last two or so generations) not to trust women because most often when men open up, women weaponize it. I’ve seen it in my mom, one of my sisters and across hundreds of divorce cases that I’ve worked on. Women most often confuse over-emotionality with emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:43 PM
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It’s not the patriarchy, it’s the elites!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:45 AM
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Why not mention the famed ssri blank stare that comes along with everything you’ve described above. Women have way higher rates of antidepressants prescriptions and it’s only getting higher. I agree there is a massive shift happening, women are in the fafo stage of feminism after they’ve gotten their wish over the last 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:23 PM
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You need to get your reading comprehension up. I wrote the exact same thing in my original post. I’m pragmatic enough to know and not be mad that women do this but I’d not facilitate it for an older woman. If women use men for money, might as well be used by a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:21 PM
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Adorable story, sis. I’d rather be retired by 45-50 than spend decades working under a geriatric queen bee.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:58 PM
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You should reread my comment. I’m not saying that’s it’s a bad thing that women got to where they are today…..I welcome it. I also didn’t blame the wage stagnation entirely on women!! What I’m saying is that women shouldn’t expect traditionality from men if everybody else moved away from that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:50 PM

Yeah, not by much haha. Chop chop, you’ve got 2-3 years until your mid 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:46 PM

Nahh….you got triggered! God forbid men have some standards too. But anyways, I’ll let you contend to your cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:37 PM

I don’t click on links posted on Reddit, I’d put in some effort in rebutting you, had you not gone apeshit. I also work in advanced manufacturing so I know a thing or two about what offshoring, automation, and doubling a workforce does to wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:25 PM

Tell me you are geriatric without telling me you are geriatric.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:19 PM

What’s with the insults? Can’t get your point across without using insults? Of course financial institutions don’t want to suggest it, it’s in their best interest to keep wages depressed plus they don’t want to offend the feminists. As Peter Lloyd said : Sticks and stones may break my bones but there will always be something to offend a feminist!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:17 PM
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I agree with you on pretty much everything you said except the money part. In today’s day and age, salaries have stagnated over the last 50 years largely due to women entering the workforce and to a similar degree the offshoring of jobs. It’d be delusional of women to have overly high standards on the money side of the equation when they were the ones who inadvertently brought on the intersexual financial imbalances that we are fraught with today; they (younger millennial women and most gen z wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:53 AM
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Calm down, I voted for her. The quote fit so well that I just had to use it. You seem a little rattled, can’t argue on the points I’ve brought forth so you are using imagery to make me look unhinged. I have multiple sisters and sister-in-laws who have been stay at home parents and one currently still is. I have no seething or scathing negative feelings against them or any woman who’s built wealth independently. Also, I don’t have anything against a well appointed home or a vacation. What I am ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:14 PM
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In my 15+ years of dating, I’ve only had two instances where a woman spent money on me. In 2010 an Austrian chick (wasn’t even dating her), organized a surprise bday party for me while in coordination with my younger sister; and in 2012 I had a work project in Chicago and was staying at some family friends of my parents. Their neighbor, a gorgeous Balkan gipsey girl one or two years older than me, bought me a chocolate cake for no reason. None of these two instances were within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:35 AM

I have no dog in this fight but you might want to look at this thread. What percentage of men actually reproduced throughout human history? https://np.reddit.com/r/evolution/s/OTr9bJcr4Z
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:50 AM
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There are not that many well to do women, at least not in the part of the Bible Belt where I reside. Most of the women I encounter are home/condo owners with an exorbitant amount of west elm/ RH furniture debt and credit card debt up the wazoo due to 3x yearly vacations and cruises.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:25 AM
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No part of my comment was shaming in nature. If you interpret it as shame, that is because the feeling was triggered within you by what I said. Deep down you know that since feminism took hold, especially over the last decade or two, the dating and courtship dynamics have shifted. Women’s societal shackles have been removed and, to quote Kamala, they have become “unburdened by what has been.” Women make more money than ever, receive more attention than ever, and many have let go of traditionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:10 AM
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I had a house by 23 back in the early 2010s, and another one paid off by 30. Built my own house by 33 and if I sell everything I could probably retire in South America or Eastern Europe by 40, with a better standard of living than I’d have here in the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:01 PM
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I haven’t cold “approached” a woman since before the pandemic and I don’t plan to restart. More recently I’ve had friends of friends adding me on socials trying to marry off their sisters (early 30s) and inviting me hunting. Or coworkers trying to hook me up with their spouse’s extended family. I’m in my mid 30s, doing very ok for myself financially and at peace. Within the last couple of months I’ve had an epiphany…. Why should I chase women just so I end up paying their bills? It makes no sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:29 PM
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I think you’ve been reading too much smut!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:57 PM
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Those incel origin stories are mostly made up by feminist trolls. Real life is much more mundane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:31 PM
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You act like it’s only men that do this. I’ve had ex-gfs contact me on instagram (5-6 years post last contact) reminiscing for what could have been, while they themselves were married with 2 kids and one on the way. Another one (whom I didn’t date) lamented to her friend for choosing her current partner instead of me because we all met around the same time and her current husband cheated on her during their engagement and she still married him. The only thing that differentiates us is that men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:12 PM
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Yeah, not seeing anything to impress me. Only the grammar police complaining about a misspelled word.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:41 PM

I think you are the confused one?! Op is explaining the Pareto principle in action while talking about the monkeys, and I could argue the 3rd paragraph (men complaining about their inability to get dates). She is still confused and doesn’t know why men are mad that women are only dating the “more dominant monkeys”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:22 PM
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I get what the point of this post is! Op is giving carte blache to 80% of the modern women who will stay single doing the “devils dance”(extramaritally) with the top 20% of men, while expecting the bottom 80% of men to shut up and die alone. Women used to be forced into this arrangement (harems). Now they are giving it out for free. Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 05:05 PM
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Op is definitely talking about women’s “nature” because is part of the overall broader “nature”, but since most modern women dont have a sense of self accountability Op is not including women’s negative traits that might reflexively make men “angry”. lol maybe you should give the same advice about self reflection to OP because this post reeks of op’s inability to self reflect. Also, some men definitely fail because of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:45 PM
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Op is not only talking about women being left alone. I’d agree that this is neutral if that were the case. OP is using imagery and even grounding it in ‘nature’ or ‘God’ to excuse women’s behaviors and tendencies (both positive and negative) that have changed the sexual marketplace, while portraying men’s responses as unreasonable or irrational. But who’s to say that men’s responses aren’t just as natural? I’ve worked in the legal industry and have close to 300 divorces under my belt and I can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 04:19 PM
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This argument is so stupid! By your logic, women shouldn’t be mad at men for being more violent (or insert whatever presumed negative trait) because it’s in their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 03:13 PM
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My sister just went through a divorce after 15+ of marriage. He was a verbal abuser and on a few occasions he laid his hands on her. The issue is that she knew what she was getting into, she dated him for 3-4 years prior to getting married and everybody (parents, siblings, and extended family in multiple continents) told her not to marry him. She still went ahead with the marriage and now reaped the outcome. Also, not to be pedantic and victim blame but a lot of women who marry abusers also have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:37 AM
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What are the chances of this happening? Close to nil! It’s even more evident if they were on the hormonal birth control pill and then they get off of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:43 AM

You should read up on the piece, pew research put out last year: How America sees men and masculinity. I don’t think women value feminine attributes in men as much as you say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 02:08 PM

Your math is not mathing. How can men perform the traditional male roles if they are squeezed out of those same roles by “feminist” masculinized women? Women definitely asses men based on career, so you can’t say that it’s not the base of the package. In my personal experience, in my early to mid 20s I had a white collar job (legal field) with an elevated sense of prestige. Now in my 30s im in a blue collar-ish industry and I make 3x what I made 10 years ago and women act differently (negatively…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:43 PM
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I was being facetious, I don’t think it can be policed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:26 PM
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No the outliers in my group are the super religious ones who work a menial job and go on mission trips. The majority went to college and a few have masters and docs. Of the ones who are still unmarried (70+) very few (2) bought property ( this can be considered an outlier) The majority were not trad, they were liberal. Trad in my culture gets a girl married at 18-19, 21 at the latest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:25 PM
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How about no kids for stupid parents 🤷🏻‍♂️😅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:14 PM
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You seem more triggered than confused. As I mentioned in my original comment, what I shared was anecdotal. Lack of real estate purchases might have something to do with religious beliefs and similar factors. I was part of a worship team and traveled quite a bit for youth and general conventions through my mid-20s, before I deconverted. During that time, I met a lot of people…both men and women…many of whom I still follow on social media. A few of the women mentioned I dated and it didn’t work ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:02 PM
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Ohh spare me the tears…..I’ve been working 60-70 hour weeks since late 2019, to catch up for my 2.5 years of involuntary unemployment during trumps first term (2016- late 2018). I do care about the innocent children who are caught up in all this but I’m hard pressed to care enough about the misandrist single moms who have been the loudest on tiktok, YouTube shorts etc and have made living off of government benefits a lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:44 AM
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I’m not saying that the feminist women are not educated because they are, but more often than not they don’t have too much to show for it. Other than a yearly trip to Iceland or London or a mission trip to Mexico or the Dominican Republic for the more religious ones. My own sisters are educated, married and doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:31 AM
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I know what “feminist” means, thanks. I was just matching the broad language the OP used.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:21 AM
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Look at most of my post outside PPD and you’ll clearly see that I’m not maga! It’s because of people like you that the left lost the young male vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:16 AM
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I’m center left so overall I’m in favor of social programs, but I’m not ok them being a way of life (unless we all get UBI, due to loss of jobs to AI). I’ve also personally seen a lot of fraud in these programs,
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:39 AM
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Look at all the single feminist moms who are crashing out on tiktok because their food stamps were cut today 😂😂 no consequences my a$$
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:57 AM
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lol I come from a pretty religious background (large European immigrant community (1st-3rd generation)), don’t consider myself redpill nor a feminist, I have acquaintances, family and friends on 3 continents. Europe, Canada/US and Australia. I’m in my 30s and 80% of the unmarried girls in their 30s that I know for a fact had feminist inclinations 10-12 years ago are now liking trand content on instagram and Fb. They are signaling how they would like a provider man so they could be in their femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:37 AM
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I’m not arguing that the gadgets are not cheaper or better because they are. For gods sake I’m old enough to remember the early 90s brick phones with the fanny pack batteries. Most people my age and younger world trade excessive availability to gadgetry if it meant easier access to homeownership. The housing affordability is not due to nimby or at least not country wide. IMO it’s too financialized, and this is coming from me, a person who made most of my net worth through real estate. I’ve bough…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:48 PM
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Wage growth from 1973 to 2022 only grew by 18% and it’s somewhat skewed by wage earners at the top who got more of the pie. So yes for lower and most of middle class wages have been either stagnant or negative. I’d rather want the ability to afford a house than some stupid consumer gadgets, whose deflationary price is derived from questionable labor practices somewhere in Asia. The overfinancialization of the economy also plays a part in dating dynamics, marriage and birth rates. The modern econ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:25 PM
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OP is also glossing over the fact that we’ve had negative wage growth (adjusted to inflation) since the “true mass entry” of women in the workforce in the 70s. Productivity more than doubled and in some industries it 4-5x-ed but the workforce is getting paid less than it did in the 1970. I’m in my 30s and very recently I’ve seen this trend where women (in my friends groups and friends of friends) are starting to publicly distance themselves from “feminism” and started liking and interacting with…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:08 PM
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I’m in my 30s and have not yet had the need to solicit the services of courtesans. I’m not for it being legal but also not against it. It’s also much safer when it’s legal, an Eastern European young woman doesn’t have to work the streets (through a pimp) in Spain or Portugal when she can get a work contract to work in a brothel in Germany or Amsterdam. In my early 20s I worked in a relatively large law firm in the south east specialized mainly in family law and immigration. Having worked on over…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:52 PM
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What the eff are you talking about….there is no self liberation for men. If women’s liberation in the 1970s meant freeing women from traditional constraints (domestic confinement, economic dependence, sexual repression), then men’s liberation would mean freeing men from the hidden costs of the old deal ….the unspoken expectations that were left largely intact when gender roles began to shift asymmetrically. Women’s liberation challenged the female role (wife, mother, homemaker). But the male rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:36 PM

There’s a strong and growing body of evidence (including from economists like Michael Hudson, Joseph Stiglitz, and Richard Wolff) suggesting a correlation between declining Western birth rates and the over-financialization of life. The economy shifts from industrial capitalism….where profits are earned by producing goods and services….to finance capitalism, where profits are extracted through debt, rent, and asset price inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:46 AM

They (poor people) don’t know any better and there is a stark difference between the underdeveloped 3rd world countries and the west, where kids (20s &30s child bearing age) coming up in the west are doing worse than their parents were doing at those same ages. Wages in 3rd world countries have actually increased over the last 50 years due to western investment in production while wages in the west (us) have stagnated or been negative when we take in consideration inflation. I’m in my 30s and I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:23 AM
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Your diatribe is full of strawmen, especially the 3rd paragraph. I don’t know any man online or otherwise that request wholesale access to sex. As a man, I don t really care that women are in the workforce. What I care about is the secondary effects this has brought on over the last 60-70 years (depreciated wages for all, diminished quality of child rearing etc…). The economic pie is not big enough for men and women to all be in the workforce and women to continue being hypergamous in their mati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:55 AM
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You are pretty much correct in your assessment. I’ve also seen that older video of the crying ladies ramping their crying up when the people lowering the casket fell in by mistake. I would like to think that it was much harder to hide bad actions back then because people/families were stuck in the same community for generations. People are much more mobile now and can move across the country or world if they fuck up in one particular community. As a child, I used to spend my summers in the count…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:24 PM
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“How the fuck are you supposed to know that the man you're having a child with is a psychopath and that the nice guy persona is just a mask? Women are idealistic and naive and men pretend well.” The percentage of people from general population who are psychopaths is around 1%, this term is being thrown around too much as of late. I agree that both men and women are idealistic but in different ways. Women idealistically believe that they can change a man while men believe that women should not ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 08:35 AM

Idk, some of the treatments yall be using is aging you faster. I was at a restaurant on this past Monday and the waitress was complaining that she has to work on her bday. I congratulated her after she mentioned that she is turning 37, but kid you not she looked to be early 50s. All the gen z women i know personally look older than their age by 3-5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 12:29 PM
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Throw in hoe_math in there too with his sleeper/sweeper/keeper chart 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:26 AM
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Y-chromosome vs. Mitochondrial DNA • Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), passed down from mothers, shows a much wider diversity than the Y chromosome, which comes from fathers. • This means more women had surviving descendants than men. • Some estimates suggest that for every man who reproduced, about 2–4 women did, on average, across much of human prehistory. 2. The Genetic Bottleneck (~5,000–7,000 years ago) • Around that time, there’s evidence of a “Y-chromosome bottleneck”—male genetic diversity plum…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:02 AM
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I was working my second job out of HS, and on a particular Sunday morning, a local sheriff walks into my place of work (convenience store). He gets his free coffee and strikes up a conversation and proceeds to tell me: “ let me give you a piece of advice….i was married to a 10 and for 18 years she treated me like a two, divorced me and cleaned me out….now I’m married to a 4 and she treats me like a 10….dont be me” chuckles and walks off. This was more than 15 years ago and I still remember the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:03 AM

“They want to own social status because their self-esteem is so low so they try to raise it by surrounding themselves by nice things.” You can’t help yourself but turn it into an insult. Maybe pick up an anthropology/social psychology/ evolutionary psychology book and brush up on male/female hierarchies. Maybe just maybe….we evolved this way and it has nothing to do with self esteem. Just like women evolved to prefer strong competent men with abilities of resource extraction from their surroundi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:18 AM
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Women string men along for financial and other reasons all the time. This is what high value men do to “mid” women as well. The women end up as perpetually dissatisfied alpha widows, always chasing a level of man she no longer has access to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 07:11 AM

I never said that they should! The 10-20% of top men won’t all of a sudden marry all the mid women who believe that they deserve the top men. Also these average men will be so disillusioned by the time the average women come back around that they won’t want anything to do with them “post wall”. In 40 years we’ll all be jumping off of buildings due to loneliness just like the elderly are doing now in Singapore and Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:00 PM

It’s because the self-serving bias and social posturing doesn’t usually match the statistical distribution of attractiveness in women. It can definitely be considered delusional if it becomes pathological or if it becomes an irrational detachment from reality. I mean there is a saying, a rising tide lifts all boats. We know why women do it, and as a man I don’t care that women do it. I also know why OPs premise is wrong about men thinking that we are more attractive than we really are…..Most men…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 01:37 PM

It’s called delusion!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 01:36 AM

This is such a delusional post. Women rate themselves and other women much higher in attractiveness time and time again. Just look at all the podcasts where all of those women rate each other as 10s https://youtu.be/Vh0hj9ZD9FY?si=yg1mED6Z28c3ot4H
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:56 PM
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This must be written by a woman and the corners of the internet you are describing must be awfully small because ive perused the red pill/ black pill corners of the internet since before they entertained into the current zeitgeist, and what you are describing doesn’t show up very often. I personally am a man in my 30s, have owned a home since age 23. Built my own home in my early 30s and earn a decent pay. I do not expect anything from anybody. I’m also very selective to what expectations (from …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 12:31 PM
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