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CMVcatbrainland/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:43 PM
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If you press them on why it’s such an issue for them they get very defensive but usually just insist that it’s “gross” or something along those lines. I'd not discount this all that much. Women in general seem to have lower threshold for getting grossed out. Also, whether you're top or bottom might play role more than you think. A lot of people have certain take towards that in their homophobia, perhaps owing to that homosexuality is part of aggression/submission/dominance display in males of ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 05:28 PM
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They can't be really confident about their looks, can they?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 07:36 AM
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There needs to be differentiation between 'looks-match' and 'percentile-match'. This is intriguing perspective. It's just like with poor people, we should consider wealth disparities through the lens of subjectivism - I'm not poor, because I don't care about money too much. If all people see world that way, tadaaa, poverty solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:27 PM
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But isn't that what confidence pretty much is? You're confusing confidence for arrogance. Because if you are hot and you know the reactions you get then you aren't really confident Confidence isn't magically linked to effort expended. A good musician with talent is confident in his talent. Whereas tone deaf person is a poor musician. They could be "confident" in trying to practice music hard, but it's just being foolishly arrogant in reality. There's no participation prize. Also, don't forget th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 03:07 PM
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Women aren't all that good engineers of systems on formal "robotic" level. It always struck as informal and personalized "systems" are preferred. If one were to take some MRA talking point, say, family court. Do women appeal "i should get shit because system says so?". I don't think so, I think that's overwhelmingly what a man would do. Whereas family court is more appeals oriented towards personal level. Just because there are now laws to systemize the sentiment post-facto, doesn't mean the sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 02:12 PM
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One refers to them within rating (system), other refers to them in terms of their (lacking) humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 12:52 PM
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Men prefer "robotic" objective value as part of their autism and focus on systems, whereas women prefer "humane" subjective view as part of their focus on people. Men will appeal to sense of justice (5 should pair with 5!), as well as practice irrational self-sacrifice (think about sense of duty) and MRAs somehow expect women to be the same. Whereas women opportunistically follow whatever suits them, but also extend empathy to people around them to do the same - aka fuck the system, it's all her…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 11:37 AM
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Cue Quinn's voice in her head "I almost went out with...a computer geek?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 07:17 AM
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Yep. Women and men are not all that different fundamentally. Their perception is largely shaped by circumstances. Some women being addicted to validation? Well, gee, wouldn't receiving that sort of constant attention have something to do with shaping a psyche like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 03:25 AM
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Masculinity is a social construct, wealth is not. More precisely the attribute is social construct for both - your wealth exists only because others allow it to - just like your status as an alpha male/female or whatever. It's not really innate, although certain innate markers may help to atain such a status (being tall, being industrous...). However in spite of the attribute being virtual initially, the outcomes are quite fundamental: power. This is why writing off socially constructed hiearchi…
/r/askTRP05/02/20 01:09 AM
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I really like this line of arguing. Being rich or poor is a social construct invented by people insecure about their wealth.
/r/askTRP04/02/20 11:26 AM
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And these aren’t ugly girls. They are successful, gym-going, with pretty cool personalities. In my experience, women are really bad judges of that (just as men are for the most part poor judges of their own sex appeal or that of their male peers). So my argument is that these women are in fact less attractive. Conversely, more attractive women have more baggage because they were subjected to more pedestal thanks to their looks. But you can't paint it like they're attractive because they're crazy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:48 AM
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Yup. Female sexuality is submissive-reactive in most mammal species. There are exceptions though, like high driven women (outliers due to variance) as well as whole species, like spotted hyenas (freaks of nature where females have more testosterone, and even pseudo penis).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:00 AM
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Priorities. Men are inclined to seek out new frontiers on the fringes. In culture studies, this is often related to "outsider art". While the distinction exists - men are far more likely to deviate from the center, I don't think it's fair to say women necessarily dislike men on the fringe. The key here whether one can go to the border, and find success on the sidelines. The issue is that the further you go from the center, the more losers on the deep end you find, but also the more weirdo winner…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:16 AM
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There's a whole lot of [citation needed] in your comment. Just read the wiki for basics. To get more in-depth, just search for papers on mate choice, sexual conflict et al. The whole "men do it too" feels an awful lot like an attempt to avoid putting blame on women - because if everyone is equally guilty then nobody's really "bad". If anything, differently. Note that ethological observations are strictly amoral - it's simply what animals, including humans do. If you want to bring morality into i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:57 AM
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Whenever people show me their yearbooks from the 70s and 80s, it's really weird to see there being no rampant obesity problems.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/20 03:39 AM
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The scientific term for this is mate-choice copying. Both genders do it, but using slightly differing approach. Males copy by socialized attributes. For instance in some cultures, chubby women are deemed attractive, males are socialized to that end, and pursue such an attribute. Basically a visual fetish you learn and keep for life. This is quite rigid, long term and useful to program for particular body fitness suitable to whatever environment the troop reproduces in. Females of social species,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 03:15 AM
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What is the basis of these intensely negative opinions? Socialized just world of disney crashing hard with reality. Women have it similiar - no man is the prince charming. It's just that most women figure this shit out in their teens and come to terms with it, whereas majority of men stay naive for a little bit longer, making the rage all the more intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:46 PM
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Nobody said you can't take a red pilled approach to negotiating your salary. It's just that most people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:19 PM
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People whose lives are bad, or on the border of bad (there but for the grace of God go they), and are ashamed to do anything but pretend that they buy into the same reality as their betters. Blue pill is the same thing why you don't ask your coworker how much they're making. You'd not like the answer. After all, we're all equal worker bees, no difference in productivity (or just being bold to ask for more) whatsoever, neh? Equality fiction has its place - to reduce strife stemming from envy and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 12:55 PM
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It was a traditionally only a masculine prerogative because men take all female power away. This is really lopsided feminist view. Why do you think there are femmes and butch, bear and twink in gay communities? The dominance/submission is extremely common in all relationships, regardless how people want to suger coat it with "equality". I agree it's perfectly fine for a woman to play the leading role, but not all that many have what it takes, and not all that many men are interested in being sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:50 PM
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Frankly, arguments such as "we risk death through childbirth", "we risk death being raped" etc is not particularly sound line of arguing, because adversity men face is incomparably worse. I don't discount the emotional toll - women are in general pretty risk averse, so of course their perception is different. But objectively, there's life expectancy heavily in favor of women, so passionate "whatabout" doesn't really fly when there's no data to support it. The fun part is that men on the whole ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 08:07 PM
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If it's men vs. women why has rape been outlawed? It's about balance I've talked about. If it were legal, it would be tipped heavily in favor of men - to the point of being destructive and too taxing in terms of internal strife, as you correctly point out. Rape protection is in general interesting topic, in similiar vein why second cousins attracted to each other the most. You're not wrong that at the bare level the closer kin people compete in terms of haplotypes (essentially one line trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:14 AM
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they are acting upon the interests of the whole gender That's exactly what I'm implying. That the emergent outcome of our hardwired attraction rules is sexual selection that can be modeled in simple market terms. Self interest is generally ignored in such large models, as it's just assumed that overall, the "free will" and selfish decisions are strongly influenced by systematic forces the model is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:58 AM
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You're arguing nuts and bolts whereas I'm talking system. Just because employees of two bitterly competing companies (sexes) switch places all the time, doesn't mean the companies on the whole are friends. It's just mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:49 AM
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Stop trying to change what women are attracted to on a primal level, not going to happen. Change yourself. Men will not change either. No matter how much you self-delude yourself to be content. The whole point of sexual selection is that one party in the relationship is the sucker, there has to be conflict in order to select for outcomes with fitness. Ideally, the sucker/winner ratio should be balanced for this to work optimally and reduce internal strife. Female strategy is exploitation of desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:25 AM
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Because we are worried about adults preying and taking advantage of teenagers. Teenagers are easier to manipulate than adults. American AoC is result of puritan cults first enforcing "coming of age" rules, it has very little to do with modern safety paranoia. It used to be much higher - up to 25yo for women. Puritans aren't prudes though, just religious. Part of this legacy is that child brides are also legal in many states (as young as 14yo).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:11 PM
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Stepping out of the comfort zone when being asocial and rich is tricky. I'd advocate baby steps.
/r/askTRP19/01/20 06:21 AM
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Mate choice copying is common in females of most sexually selecting species, even much dumber than humans. The boring explanation is that it's a form of crowdsourced intelligence, ie you pick up cues about value of a man from others. Makes sense and it maybe started like that. But we're humans, we can do better than just monkey choice of others, and perhaps another pressure emerged from initial monkey business: Man who resists the increased attention he receives from choice copying is more likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 06:03 AM
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Congratulations, you're a "normie". It simply means you fall into a statistical baseline and have pretty much zero empathy for the long tail. Talk to some homie who has not much luck with the ladies, really talk over few pints. Do they(good looking guys) are mediuns who can use pua tricks mentally?I say this because there seems to be people who get girls so easily It's more like being good or bad with money. It has surprisingly little to do with how much you inherit (=be attractive) or how hard …
/r/ExRedPill19/01/20 04:21 AM
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http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2008/12/einstein-controversy.html What's next, black Beethoven? There's no doubt that Mileva was a skilled mathematician (but nowhere near einstein at least in terms of school grades). Her role, according to public record, might have been something akin to Ada Lovelace at best (Ada is another figure heavily subjected to feminist revisionism). The worst part about twisting history by pedestalizing minor characters like this is that it's quite unfair to the li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 10:43 PM
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Here's human sociosexual dynamic 101: Men destroy, but also build the world (as part of competition for women). Women build the men quite literally, as well as figuratively, but can't realistically participate in male competition, not anywhere near the top end anyway (inb4 cherrypick argument way off the base in population statistic). Men are proud of building the world, yet FDS minded women selectively get offended "we're not breeding mares" / "we're tired of motivating men" in one sentence, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 10:23 PM
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Pretty much same here. Want me to take you out to fancy dinner, or buy you some crap? That'll be BJ or at least a handie first! While this may sound transactional and what not, as long it's done in half joking/flirtatious way I don't see why people are so butthurt about this. Lest otherwise I'd feel that "i owe" where not knowing exactly what I'm owing is making it weird. Same sort of feeling you get from people with no boundaries slipping you envelopes with bribes, only later it turns out they …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 08:49 PM
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In my experience, if the man has to wait, she's dating down. Conversely if she puts out instantly, the man is most likely dating down (ONS/FWB). In either case, such relationship is very likely to be dysfunctional. A week or two wait is fine if it's matter of some principle, but anything above that is fishy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:55 PM
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doesn't make them zero sum It depends on fitness function you're using. Strictly in terms of gender conflict, it's always zero sum. But if we're talking in terms of commitment, it's negative sum (as massive amount of players withdraw from "culturally rational" strategy in favor of evolved one). And if we're talking progenic effect, as evolution intended it (such as average height...), it's a net win.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 07:57 AM
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I hear that line a lot. But I can never imagine myself living like this, so not really sure what it entails. Would you agree with this statement: Generally, women are far less prone to seeking autismal rationalizations for their feelings. If that truly is the case, it has some interesting ramifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:56 PM
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People in general bullshit around to get what they want. Always read what people do in preference to what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:42 PM
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There's a wider context, as you hear this sentence often when not only women, but also children or weak (notably, senior) people are wronged - it's not just this narrow case of sex. The specific case you talk about is then infantilazition of women. It translates "She has/I have no agency, how dare you take advantage of that".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:38 PM
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Yes, but not the way TRP describe it. Male parenting fitness declines slower than female's. Parenting fitness is primary guiding factor in attractiveness - to such an extent that female faces age faster than male post 35. This is because over our history, women past 35 were disqualified from sexual competition, whereas men continued to their 50s - selecting for attractivity traits that are "cheap" to keep, such as slower aging of face in the 35-50 window. Meanwhile TRP preach ridiculous tales ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:07 PM
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Eh, I don't follow. It's a circular argument extremely prevalent in feminism - that men "solve problems only men cause", ergo, men are root of all evil. Titanic is sinking under the weight of time travelers trying to prevent titanic from sinking. Of course it's just tunnel vision on the aspect that men are more likely to strive for success, in the process hurting their surroundings. Competition for success is not exactly a kumbaya thing. High driven women are just as vicious as their male peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:11 PM
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All people should work in McDonalds flipping burgers, because starting a business is too much risk and they're most likely to fail when shooting for the stars. While I get your sentiment to reduce the strife by stopping having dreams, doing so would demolish one of the core motivators that hurls human progress forward. In fact, a lot of fixed action of many species is predisposed that most will fail. Yet if everyone would exit due to their low chances, the species would fail as a whole. This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:03 PM
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If you erode the belief in a taboo, you erode that taboo itself eventually and transition it into plain legalism. While it's technically true it's prejudice and thought police, I'd posit it's for the better for pedophilic men to stay in the closet - just to hammer the point home. A lot of men instinctively feel roughly the same about rape and violence - something that porn glorifies a lot actually. Now take what normalizing porn as such did, compared to the time it was a "hush hush" deal.
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/20 05:20 PM
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The powers-that-be would like you to believe that redpill is this newfound controversial ideology. Once again, so was atheism. It's funny you mention game theory, as during its foundation it came up with surprising result: That actors being "rational", in full awareness of reality results in suboptimal equilibrium. In short, that cut throat world is less efficient than naive one. Though misattributed to Nash, TRP is very much about going after the blonde, whereas TBP is about going after the bru…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:12 PM
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That was one of the primary hypotheses of Wolfers in 2009, but it's really hard to prove either way. He cites three possible explanations, namely: That the expectations were inflated due to "revolutionary spirit", as you suggest. Women given more freedom, raised their expectations in equal measure That feminism and sexual revolution made women less happy The paper goes on to rule out irrelevant factors people tend to cherry pick (such as suicides, which indicates only increase happiness of small…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:16 AM
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The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness Your link just acknowledges the same result from 2009 - that women are, for the most part about about as happy as men are and then it proceeds to detail the slight decline in overall happiness in the west. They even link a blog post that provides gist of the effect: http://freakonomics.com/2007/10/01/why-are-women-so-unhappy/ The paradox observed is the gender disparity when compared to 70s. Women used to be much happier before sexual revolution - for so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:02 AM
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I think better question within what OP framed is what is ultimately better for society - to live by TBP norms, or "keeping it real". BP is modern day Catholic Church - sure its often made up bullshit people "deeply" believe in, so as to skim over inconvenient realities. TBP is like not asking your coworker how much he makes, because you'd not like the answer. We're all equally hard workers, no differences at all, nah? Perhaps TBP beng widespread has far more positive effect on society than a ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:31 AM
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What evidence is there that life isn't getting exponentially better? Self-reported happiness, the ultimate subjective value. Look it up, especially that of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:18 AM
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It's different for nuns too. Nuns aren't people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:10 PM
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Island dwelling wolves often don't form packs due to genetic bottleneck. My bets are on there being no incest, but very territorial and confused (in?)cels.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/19 01:43 PM
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What are the reasons? Why do women prefer to have sex with men who do less housework? Could be pre-selection, not causation: The type of a man who is likely to do housework is also the type of a man to be less enticing for sex for a woman. Perhaps less attractive, less assertive etc. Conversely a woman who is less likely to expect/nag about this is perhaps more submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:35 PM
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We're hominids competing with strangers, not our clan. Drastically different pack dynamics. Fun fact: While wolves in nature indeed don't practice incest (pack is extended family for the most part), in captivity (as well as "lone wolves" who pollinate into unrelated packs) switch to intraspecies sexual selection strife similar to that of hominids due to low levels of relatedness.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/19 01:25 PM
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That’s not even what we’re talking about here. Why/where would hand to hand combat matter in a hypothetical large scale conflict? I seriously doubt it will ever come to anything even remotely like this in any form and shape for very different reason - women fail to act violent/coercive even in very "soft" spaces (stuff like market speculation, online crime etc). There's either something hard wired or socialized for things to be that way. But it's still a fun scenario to ponder - if women that ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 11:56 PM
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I’m not. Im saying if shit hit the fan we’re as capable of you as pulling a trigger. You know there were instances when this was put to a test. The results are somewhat mixed in modern history. Israeli army, Peshmerga and Red Army female corps. The trouble is essentialy that while women can indeed pull a trigger, there's far more to war than just that. Largest issue is endurance in harsh conditions, and higher risk of psychological breakdown due to stress. There's a reason not all that many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 10:29 PM
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jealous and greedy That would be the case if the underclass were jealous of higher status men from their ranks who "made it"/"sold out" but most of the time such cases are met with crab mentality at best, and usually are somewhat respected as inspiration, due to visible effort beating the odds. Let me be known this scapegoat is a delusion, so you cant make sure you're not coddling this subculture of victimhood. It's us vs them mentality. Whether it's delusion or not is tricky question, because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:13 PM
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I think the situation is a lot like with poor people. How do you propose to "address it". Tell them stop being poor and doing things poor people out of frustration sometimes do? In many ways this looks a lot like bigoted ivory tower stance. Neither handouts or repercussion or ridiculous brainwashing that money doesn't matter ("stop being toxic masculine") are going to help here. Such approach is well known to breed further resentment - when I listen to incels, their misogyny is markedly similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 08:14 PM
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The law of unequal exchange in NTR: The closeness/duration with the cuck is directly proportional to enjoyment of the netorare story.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:20 PM
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open I don't really like the notions of "open" or "polyamory", as those are notoriously used as a pretext by people to disrespect their SO and basically do whatever the fuck they want with complete disregard for the other. Such relationships indeed don't last.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/12/19 02:19 PM
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Lovebombing/charm got summarily bad rep in PUA, probably because many guys in there come from a "nice guy" background. Like alcoholics that can't drink recreationally anymore. But it really is that simple - be as glib as possible, yet don't be a doormat/pleaser.
/r/askTRP25/12/19 04:57 AM
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Loooool why are unattractive men are always like this? Low self esteem. Note that this is not specific to men, or even dating. Many an underdog barks too loud after they get the occasional random win. Due to being in state of permanent failure, they have no frame of reference to gauge their standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:07 PM
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There's some interesting stuff with addiction as a coping/escapist strategy and not a random event, poor impulse control etc. Porn might be simply an answer to the void that was there even before, just as it often goes with life destroying drugs. The fact that this shit traps people into a vortex of artificial experience seems like a separate and frankly banal matter. Just pointing and laughing at addicts is easy, but fundamentally not an insight into why it happens. Why not ask how they got the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:16 AM
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as in the fact they don't know how to make a woman/laugh or make her comfortable, the fact they talk over the woman and 'correct' her with their historical knowledge on x y z Nail on the head. I've had a lot of issues in the past with mansplaining (still indulging it online, huh). And it's not even a relationship thing. Turns out spergy lectures aren't all that great outside of spergy niches, especially if one has a trouble tracking whether the audience is interested to hear it. Charismatic peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:44 AM
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Societal programming aside, how about chad harems? For most of its existence, humanity was collective child care in clans and obligate polygyny - not nuclear family. Monogamy (and even islamic limited polygamy) is fairly new invention, as it resulted overall zerg rush tactics of quantity over quality, where sheer population expansion steamrolled over the more natural/progenic societies where women bred with comparably fewer men. Rest of men were usually killed off anyway. Romans vs steppe barbar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 12:23 PM
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Disagree partially: It's a recent effect of modernity, it didn't exist before. Suggesting it is entirely socially constructed, perhaps also entangled with dropping fertility. See chinese concept of "leftover women". You seem to over-focus on female beauty. Yes, it's important to a woman to woo high quality male. It's not important to breed as such - that's always your choice. This argument is somewhat supported by mt-DNA vs y-DNA (most women did historically breed, while only a fraction of men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 03:59 PM
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Actually, sense of duty very often rests on self-sacrifice. It's more like brainwashing people into "you do this, and you wont benefit from it at all, because god wills it". It's far more authoritarian, rather just peer pressure. Meanwhile women are pressured to conform in very peer-pressury way. There's no brainwashing "do this or else", but gossiping behind back, labels as witch/lesbian and so on. Women respond to that shit, presumably because there's some sort of social hivemind involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:13 PM
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You think chivalry was really based on what others think about you, rather than instilled sense of duty?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 11:48 PM
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Women don't find men attractive because men can't be bothered to make themselves attractive. I largely agree with this, but disagree as this being a valid argument, because the gender difference seems to be much more general than that. Women care what others think about em, ie place value on social validation. Cue being addicted to likes on social networks and gossip. While men care much less so about this. Their validation is internally sourced instead. In short, if a man slays pussy, he's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:58 PM
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Has this thread not collectively acknowledged AFBB? Not necessarily. The admission is also that "game" a man has factors into it a lot (it's his "personality"). So better question would be: What % of men you get at least mild crush on once you do get to know their "character" for a bit, ie no longer an anonymous lump of meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 06:29 PM
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It is more like be valuable, contribute to conversations, turn heads, be the person people look for and want to talk to when you enter the room. There's a significant dark triad aspect to the attention economy people often undervalue for some reason. Even really bad PR is still great PR. Being a selfish drama queen still works wonders compared to being introverted, or awkward "valuable" doormat. Jerks are still interesting, as it provides some new emotional experience. OP's problem is that he's …
/r/askTRP03/12/19 07:01 AM
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Both cynicism and idealism is unhelpful or downright childish, just keep it real FFS.
/r/ExRedPill30/11/19 04:16 AM
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You’d be shocked at some of the men capable of having affairs. Adultery is miles ahead of casual tinder thing though. I too find it fascinating that most interesting relationships you ever find are adulterous. Looks and other shallow things matter much less to women in there, because it's the circumstance and peculiar emotional needs at play most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 05:06 PM
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It's just narcissistic delusion - when everything else is an object, you aren't. This is in similiar vein with being butthurt about being "second choice". Once again, the ego is protected - "you're the best" - while in practice, everyone is a second choice. Boomer/X parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 11:03 PM
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Bigots more generally, and yes. However bigotry is not something you can shame away that easily, as categorization is something most people do out of the box.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:55 AM
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Fear of rape from genetically inferior male.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 04:42 AM
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Don't use incels as representative sample of "most men" then. Weak and feminized men do exist, but are not all that common, just pre-selected here on reddit. Bottom line is that majority of incels do, in fact, approach women (if awkwardly) than vice versa. They have heightened anxiety about rejection (ego injury), but nowhere near to completely stop em from behavior for far nuanced fears women commonly feel such as "it would be embarrassing". It was only after the repeated advances got rejected …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:57 PM
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I too. This, along with Chasing Amy is IMO one of the biggest Purple Pills on the screen - it does realistically portray women (red pill), instead of bizzarely pseudo-chaste madona-whores of Hollywood. It shows how men are delusional (blue pill) and finally that a man has to come to terms with it if one were to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:19 PM
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37 dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:57 PM
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These studies can be fun: Women who thought their responses might be read said they had had an average of 2.6 sexual partners, compared with 3.4 partners for those who thought their answers were anonymous. But those who thought they would be caught out by the polygraph reported an average of 4.4 partners. That was in 2003. I wonder what the number is like nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:53 PM
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It's "indecisiveness and neuroticism" when women fail to take control due their anxiety about the outcome. It's definitely common sense in your anecdote. Incidentally, this is why women should nag about it as a form of positive emotional labor - say "Dont do this, its DUMB" and more importantly, partner trusting her judgement. For that trust to exist, however, the woman should know when to shut the fuck up when the risk is clearly necessary, and she'd just voice her own anxiety about the proposi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:13 PM
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Men are definitely more impulsive, however being impulsive also means making quick (albeit wrong sometimes) decisions, instead of being stuck in neuroticism about what might happen. Yes, men engage in risky behavior far more often as a result. Not because they're brave or something, but because they simply don't see risk where a lot of women do. Being less reckless makes it less likely you rape, kill or end up with drug addiction, but it also limits the operational angle range in everything else…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:57 PM
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It's the point of the entire subreddit. Hear the whining and nagging from both sides and try to see the perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 03:41 PM
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appear more moral It's about agreeableness. "Girls are nice" is socialized from early on. Being nice often means being dishonest when confronting the uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 07:39 PM
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Confidence is a proxy for status. Confidence with nothing to show for it is arrogance. Ton of people seem to confuse the two, hence the endless "confidence doesn't work, why?". Because arrogant pricks are not confident, they're just douches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 07:31 PM
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For one, there is variance in attractiveness that is unexplained by ratings of strength, approximately 25% to 30%. Let me mansplain: The "with no exceptions" is a bit of clickbait. The study itself confirms variation. What is without exception is that stronger = better, as the direction of progression. Nobody disputes the variance. Meaning women who'd prefer the opposite would be an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 07:25 PM
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Truth is that nobody gives a shit about how creative or talented you are as such. The magic sauce is your ability to partake in the scene around it. There are shitloads of talented neckbeards, they simply are not interested in showing off, except anonymously online - where the bar is incredibly high (you compete with the whole internet). Whereas all the scene kid needs is wear the right clothes, and book the same gig in a local pub to be a star for 50 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 08:29 PM
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Mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:22 PM
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About the quotation marks - people start garage bands to play terrible, terrible ripoff punk, or organize rave parties to get the girls as part of the plan when they're 17 - 23. The "wild years". It's not something people past 25 or so should be doing - you're simply too old and cringe inducing. There's pretend status (as a scene kid, pretentious yuppie, as frat boy, you name the stuff). It's easy to be "interesting" in such a narrow, but aimless scope. And then there's the real status of factua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 06:06 PM
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Your anecdotes are mostly of "interesting" men. The thing about incels is not looks (they do matter, but not nearly as much as they imagine) - the primary thing is being "interesting", and having "interesting" friends. Even if that means you're just a smelly hippy, or a hobo with a sort of life going on. I used to be a "hippy" (though in my age group and location, rave scene, rather than yuppies) and the situation is very much the same as you describe, albeit more urban oriented. There are of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:35 PM
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Isn't this how those squeaky anime noises in hentai porn are produced?
/r/askTRP06/11/19 09:26 AM
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"All" is a silly exclusion of outliers, it's more along the lines of "vast majority". It's also not about degrading sex per se, but more about control. Women who prefer passive men are outliers, but of course they're out there. Correlates to kinsey scale in general, save for the small amount of people who have extremely specific preferences.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/19 07:02 AM
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Of course, sharing our vulnerabilities and woes is a big part how we bond as humans. Women are usually very passionate about it, love to gossip, and often don't think it through and just go ahead with everything. In a way it's a very honest and direct thing. Men on the other hand share strategically, because most are completely inept in the gossip game. It's not wise for em to even try to spin any webs there, so best one can do is keep the poker face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 03:45 PM
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So now he loves a 50 year old woman who, in his mind's eye, is still the beauty he married. The effect is called "wife goggles".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/11/19 02:40 PM
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Sour grapes. Or disappointment from unrealistic expectations about romance. I tend to write it off as just being immature, on both sides. Women acutely need to come clean about the having fun/having stability dichotomy (AF/BB is not helping, more like needlessly oversimplifying it). Whereas men need to be taught the new reality post-forced monogamy, as young boys. It ain't disney tales anymore, but I don't see how extremism in the form of TRP and radical feminism helps here, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 01:39 AM
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Aggression, but not in a violent way is competition. A man who suffers social defeat in competition A will not feel much better when they cry their eyes out about it. They may feel better if they seek competition B and excel at it, though. Toxic masculinity is when you stay at competition A and throw a violent fit (losing at chess -> flip the board, instead of playing checkers if you're better at that).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 10:43 PM
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The general outline is that men cope by action (the default is aggression, but can be channeled to higher pursuits, such as sports and other forms of positive competition). Women cope by sharing and seeking empathy. This goes way down to primal endocrine mammal drives, to a point that women on TRT are significantly less likely to break down to tears and are all around "robotic" and "unwomanly". Conversely an overly emotional man is perceived as feminine and it creeps people out a bit. This is on…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 10:35 PM
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Thinking long term, if more men check out of society and stop being the cogs that turn the big wheel, the global economy slows down, innovation decreases I'm pretty sure you've got the causative arrow reversed. It's precisely because modernity and technology turned most men into cogs too small. Most men don't have "interesting career", people instinctively realize it's bullshit and you're just doing what your boss tells you to, people are free to do whatever they want but there's simply nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 08:21 PM
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Single moms are what natural selection would punish badly. No it wouldn't. The MO of humanity is collective child care, not partners for life in a nuclear family like some birds. Cuckoldry and heavily socialized clans simply resulted best (genetic) outcomes in our ancient ecology, so that's what we're stuck with. Single motherhood is mostly result of our culture being completely divorced from that evolutionary history that shaped our biology, yet people are now allowed to act out those impulses …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 08:11 PM
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Assuming that man stays around or not depending on "waiting period" is ridiculous. Don't wanna hook up, fine we can be friends, but chances of any romance from then on are slim to none. Mind games kill the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 01:58 AM
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I too am baffled by the constant butthurt about FDS in the incelsphere. If anything, they should be proud that some women look up to incels to such an extent they adopt incel lingo and style of inquiry. It's refreshing to see the female side of things spelled out explicitly, and not in euphemisms, too. FWIW I'd consider the sub an "ideal" a high maintenance woman strives for. Labeling it psychopathic only because the language is autistic and cynical ("hateful") is unfair. The whole point of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:37 PM
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Ruthless capitalists (such as Martin Shkreli) exploiting "dumb" market participants are the most moral and honest people there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 06:52 PM
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Add to that a majority of the men in PPD think that women are less interesting, not funny, have basic bitch hobbies, and no goals. I'd argue it's only misogynists who do that - they project their own blind spots. What does happen in reality is that men don't care about those attributes in a romantic partner. I'll respect you for being good at something, but it's absolutely nada whether it factors into attraction. Many may even feel slightly discouraged by it for LTR. Meanwhile women seem to plai…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:10 AM
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Casual sex is carrot you wave, not give out for free. If no donkeys bite and pull the cart, that just means weak (feminine) game. Don't be the tinder-order girl sucking off frat boys. Step it up a little and talk to the guys for a bit. A slut who gets passed around as towns bike AND constantly complains why nobody loves me is just a femcel. A social retard with nil awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:11 PM
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You left an important bit: The drug context involved. If she's a weak willed meth junkie to this day, dating is impossible. If she came out stronger out of the experience, people like that can be a keeper as they attain some much needed street grit, and are very commited to never go back to the experience. It's also a bit of responsibility, as you're now part of that commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 06:58 PM
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The irony lies in that men who opt for sexpatting are stereotypically unattractive, so you get role inversion (fat balding anglo guy with an okish looking local girl). Of course there's a good explanation for this overshoot: Only people truly desperate are willing to escape comfort zone and try something entirely new. Folks who are willing to make such a jump are often not entirely "boring", what they typically lack is only the looks department. In terms of market parallels, this would be like b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 01:13 PM
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Therapists are sworn to not discuss patients While it varies a bit country by country, it usually goes like this: We're sworn - but not obliged to comply except for blatant privacy violations (spreading gossip). The protection is often like that of lawyers on their clients, journalists on their sources etc. Most importantly, the notion of complicity doesn't apply. Fear of being tarred and feathered for complicity is why people "rat out" most often. This means your therapist can totally report yo…
/r/MensRights22/10/19 12:51 PM
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I used to write off amerifatness only as a pure shitty diet thing, but it's also not all that specific to the US. It's a spectrum all over the west correlating with various aspects of both genders getting androgynyzed. Is a healthy, fit but facially ugly/plain man like me better off looking abroad for a healthy weight partner? Yellow fever is always an option. It's most certainly market optimal, but you have to ask your conscience whether you really want to set your relationship to be this trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 12:18 PM
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It's having a cake and eating it too type of situation. Notice where the whole meaning of 'cheat' comes from. They want something out of the relationship, but are unwilling to commit to their end of the bargain. The trouble is that most sluts are in denial. Male sluts string along harems of "friends" and see nothing wrong with it. Female sluts vacation-cheat on their "main" as a matter of cultural norm. These folks are noticeably common, and both will vehemently argue they're not sluts. Yet they…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:47 AM
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Going to dinner with Space Spider is just outright stupid. There is a huge difference at taking a risk and just being stupid. Yes yes, you draw a line to amount of recklessness and indeed most people have it. Again, this line is far further for men compared to women, in general, not just in partner choice. What may seem reckless to a woman is just taking pot shots for a man. I should clarify where I am getting on with this as a CMV. I think that men are driven to take more risk, and as a consequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 02:02 PM
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Not sure about you, but if someone in front of me is all like "you're cool and all, but I don't trust you - you're probably a fuccboi, and possibly a rapist too!". That's a huge turnoff as it telegraphs "you're not worth risking my emotional well being for". I'd agree that women on average are far more likely to do that. They avoid the wrong neighborhoods and switch sidewalks. In short, they take less risks. However, if neither party in a relationship takes risks, nothing will ever happen. Two p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 01:25 PM
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When you get mugged in the wrong neighborhood, sorry dude that's on you dude. Totally not mugger to blame. In fact, the mugger will argue vehemently he did nothing wrong. I get where you are coming from, but no. It would be as you say if a slutty person indicated upfront that they're a slut. Instead, they string along their victims covertly, and claim they're interested in relationship and deceive their romantic partner along for the long haul. Notice how this is unrelated to gender, it's only a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 01:01 PM
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Couldn't this just be sampling error? It's kinda silly as argument - with most CMV generalizations on this sub, there's implicit assumption we're few SDs in already. That is, the question is essentially "is overwhelming majority of YOUR anecdotes like this", sampling in progress. For whatever it's worth, my personal experience is that one can detect outliers - that is, actual romantics and actual sluts. Romantics have often very rigid view of sex and romance and tend to live up to high moral pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 01:47 AM
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How do you know that your standards aren’t inflated? If the entire market thinks something is of low value, it's not "standards of the traders are inflated". It's just shitty value on the market. This is more or less about intrinsic (ie normal distribution from mother nature) vs market (ie i'll put standards as high as long I get a FWB) valuation. Since most women seem to prefer to share high valued men, the market can stay in equilibrium where men sell shitty goods, and women have enough chip t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:34 PM
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Note that male attractiveness is always judged by women, thus a value determined by them. Whether guys overestimate theirs, or women underestimate is very same thing, it is objective attribution you're confusing. Men are delusional in terms of misjudging female subjectivity, thus their real world chances because they assume gaussian distribution - that they're rated same way they rate women on a bell curve (pairing 1:1, attractiveness variance is distributed like say, physical strength or intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 10:12 AM
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This notion you guys have that women walk around thinking they’re going to marry a billionaire brad Pitt lookalike in their 40s is just revenge porn fantasy you heard from some TRP blogger. Agreed. Moreover, single men in their 40s a lot of time stop caring about their looks (or more like they never cared, but no amount of good genetics helps at that age unless one is willing to work for it). Whereas single cougars looking for companion are often in shape as they're keenly aware of the stark com…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 12:53 PM
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I am calling bullshit on this one. It can easily happen if the guy was either piss poor, or more likely, financially literate to hide his assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 12:49 PM
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The marry-within-class seems to be profoundly western, and especially US thing. Why are people so afraid of having a poor partner who "marries in for the money" (which is usually not the primary cause at all, but people will make that assumption regardless).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 12:46 PM
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In more challenging fields, it's much harder to start when you're 35 as opposed to when you're 18. Whereas with children it's almost the opposite - you don't need all that much fast thinking as opposed to wisdom and patience - all that comes with age. The criticism about having children when too old is still valid though. People over 35 don't make for all that good parents either as there's overall drop in energy investment. All in all, there's "golden window" sometime between 24-30. When a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 12:41 PM
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It's up to you as an individual to know this if you don't you're going to get screwed Well, it's elaborate tit for tat game. The secret sharing aspect is still immensely important to bond. But it's important to keep the stakes equal. You know some embarrassing detail about me, i know one of yours. When imbalance in there occurs, it's a form of power. And when it comes to attraction, it's almost never attractive to give up power for nothing in return, only fools do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 10:36 PM
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When women explicitly solicit for this, it's often just fishing for cannon fodder. Conversely, when men "suddenly" start to be "emotionally unavailable" it means the guy just realized showing up soft belly to people prone to abusing the information later is not the best of ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 09:51 PM
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What do men really bring to the table In species where male competition ceases to function, Fisher's principle breaks down as males no longer select for higher male sex ratio through competetive self-selection. Male role is then severely reduced to the role of pollinators. Reproductive hiearchy is instead shifted to female side (alpha queen females reproduce, beta female worker bees don't). Typical example is eusocial species like bees or ants whose ancestors had 1:1 sex ratio, but it atrophied …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 11:49 AM
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something is up Or not. Late 30s in men means T decline. More trouble getting it up.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/09/19 07:13 PM
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national statistic Wish there was one. Officially it's tracked only as average age of first marriage, and gap is computed from difference between the two averages. This leads to exclusion of certain cases, notably second marriages of which there is significant number. Age gap typically strongly correlates with economical prospects. Oddly enough, being an ex-soviet country, it's mostly unrelated to education anymore (we had gender parity in higher education for nearly 50 years now, as did most of…
/r/ExRedPill04/09/19 05:41 PM
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Where are you from? Ex soviet bloc country. Not really macho as Russia, but definitely not the west either. I'm told the situation is somewhat similar in most of asia. In any case, it's not mathematically possible for women to have more partners on average than men. There are few attractive men who never commit longer than few months/year or so, and just string most of the girls along, in american terms the closest equivalent would be jocks and frats, although here it's nowhere near tied to scho…
/r/ExRedPill04/09/19 05:06 PM
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Typically speaking, older men go for younger women because they are immature and easy to manipulate. It's incongruent with what I'm seeing. In my country, the average gap is 7 years, and 8-12 years gap is not atypical. Classic example is 35 years old guy, 25 or so years old girl. I have a hard time to trust the whole "immature" thing. You are probably talking about a 40 year old pedophile grooming 12 year old child. In normal relationships I know at least, it's overwhelmingly the women who seem …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/19 04:54 PM
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I keep wondering why that is. Age gaps, and fairly large age gaps historically are near universal across cultures - even the matrilineal ones. And if you read cultural traces as for why, you get the same answer - youth is valued in a wife, wisdom and power in a husband, or a relative and a friend. Does thinking like that really constitute a personality flaw?
/r/ExRedPill04/09/19 04:17 PM
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I think this leaves men in a position of having something of an existential or identity crisis. Some desperately want to cling on to the old ways of doing things, some become bitter and want to take it out on women, some want to be more like women, some want to just ignore it all and get on with their lives. I too think something like this is going on. There are some interesting implications from the bird view when you evaluate humans as sex evolved species. Sex arises because sexual selection i…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/19 02:22 PM
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Less babies will be born, but they will be born from parents who really want them and want to put the work, instead of seeing them as just something to have or even worse, something to get validation from. How do you prevent single mothers who just get a baby as part of their GTOW? Because that's a major outcome of dissolution of commitment already. Or is there going to be a law banning single motherhood in order to force the ideal "they will be born from parents who really want them" outcome?
/r/ExRedPill03/09/19 02:10 PM
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Was feminism movement trigger this backlash? This is what I believe, simply by observation of direct link between women complaining, and suddenly men starting complaining some time later. Cultures which remained macho - most notably in asia see far less of bottom male complaining - even if inceldom in there is fairly prevalent. Trigger for sure, but not so sure about it being inherent cause. It was more like last straw to break the back of monogamy enforcing male reproductive access by fiat (ins…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/19 01:59 PM
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One google away for the tabloid source. But there's also more corroborated evidence: The massive ubiquity of war rape, as well as certain, erm "generally uninhibited populations", such as many parts of Africa. You could of course try to claim this is somehow specific to these populations and what not, but in practice the very same populations were quite inhibited under colonial rule. The disinhibition came with failed states where people more or less revert to natural clan based way of socializi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 10:13 PM
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It's easy to jump to conclusions. Counter argument: 3% High chance they inherit the hubby's shit? Divorcing too soon would halve the profit. Waiting it out is pragmatic. 21% Post chemo, wifey becomes unfuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:50 AM
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One thing you might've omitted: Given the uneven perception of attractiveness between genders - it's something like 80/20 (80% women are attractive, whereas only 20% men are), women act on their attraction far less on average as they have much less opportunity to be turned on for same amount of random encounters. This may be the reason for the skew of "but men have impure thoughts even more often!". Well duh, since men as a group are inclined to find many more people fuckable than women do. As f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 06:10 PM
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That most "blue" relationships are just ruthless pragmatism of the woman vs idealism of the emotionally clumsy guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 01:28 AM
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choosing where to eat lunch. I'd say at N>20 or so, it's only about as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 06:21 AM
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TV guide feminism Cosmogirl style advice "if you miss him a lot, SHOW HIM your love" etc - such are relevant only in very specific circumstances (shy people and such), but for general dating is rather ill-advised.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/19 10:11 AM
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Every fucking mammal male on earth pursues the female - at the very least for sex. Females vet. Don't get fooled by neoliberal platitudes of TV guide feminism.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/19 09:59 AM
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You’re the one who said faking it. This was a specific jab at makeup/roiding because yes, the competition induces a lot of faking in the end. quality that comes naturally to them versus someone that didn’t. It depends how the innate quality is used. You're the trust fund kid here, best course of action is to be humble about it. You're saying you've earned the status, though it is inherited from parents. You can argue it's just the poor envying the rich - but. Most poor will still respect a rich …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:07 AM
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Whether one cheats or not doesn't matter - it's the amount of discipline to achieve level. A weaker person being a skilled fighter is far more impressive than a strong one. And those qualities too are innate, yet it's the effort that factors in. Not to sound too generalizing, but I think your hyper-focus on practical outcome and not the past circumstances and future consequences surrounding it is a good illustration how a lot of women think about most of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 07:54 AM
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unearned attraction I'm just portraying the angle where the disdain comes from. It's the same logic why natural body builder is more respected than one juiced up, even if the natty is technically weaker. Such assessments are crucial, as they're good signals of important attributes such as discipline and strength of character which translate to better outcomes in the future, compared to irrelevant faking of images for social signaling. Regardless, women are largely excused from this, because almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 07:49 AM
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I find it weird to look down on them for this fact just because they can attract an SO. While SO is part of this, it generally extends to all situations where pussy pass situation appears as "accomplishment". I see it often professionally (highly technical field) where a lot of women are blatantly incompetent, as they simply exploit the ever present pussy pass and background whiteknighting. But whenever they try to raise things they've "accomplished" just by being certain gender of barely becky …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 07:36 AM
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It's still unfair to self-aware and accomplished outliers. I’m not sure they need much justification for that desire lol. Sexist bias is not patriarchy, just like racist bias isn't ideological. If you live near a hood, one generalizes certain idioms about a group. Still worth it to accommodate for the minority of exceptions, though - especially if you want to be friends/in romance with em.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 07:23 AM
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It's the oldest trick in the book. Back in early 2000s I knew a dude who'd rent a sports car and suit, pretending it's his shit just to pull gold diggers for 2 nights straight and then show em the middle finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 05:24 AM
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Just throw in a couple dozen more buzzwords in while you're at it. I bet you can't even get laid, you virgin. Virgins are just creeps who don't like women, they are really just virgins. In fact, they're so pathetic because they're virgins that they can't even get laid, which leads to them not getting laid, which results in virginity which is the cause of their lame ideas and hating women. And the punishment for being so lame? Virginity. The problem with virginity is virginity. Incels can't lose …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 05:16 AM
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In 2019, incel is the new neonazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 05:14 AM
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What I find bizarre is when women complain about men having disdain for inherent female privilege and calling that notion sexist. It's sexist only when a woman works her ass to be something and then being put down a peg for their gender, but in all other cases, it's often warranted to stomp on inflated egos. No different you'd step on an entitled trust fund kid who thinks he's the hot shit in a place where merit, not his old money privilege matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:53 AM
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There are plenty of self help books out there aimed at women on how to understand men, dating, relationships, marriage, etc and they tend to do quite well. There are two kinds - ones from actual anthropologists, and then from placating hacks writing a Cosmo column. Guess which books are the bestsellers and most read. And how they "help".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:44 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate - not much as focus on "do you even lift", but more about de-categorizing of gender imperatives. It's useful to know more about what actually drives the markets, either to empathize with the roles, or better adapt to reality. In this analogy, TRP is like religious advice for momentum daytraders "buy low, sell high" - which works to an extent, but is also blinded by its own dogmas. Whereas Feminism is like Marxism trowing a temper tantrum about the capital. Good as an ideal, r…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/19 02:30 PM
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Reddit, is there such a thing as too much money? A car that can go too fast? But serious answer: Fuck? For sure. Date - that's tricky. Such arrangements can be quite fickle because the relationship soon starts feeling like babysitting and it's kinda ... weird. Then again, I've felt like I was babysitting someone over 25, so it's probably not all that much about age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:04 AM
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she can’t compensate that much Status and money won't make you physically attractive - not even a man. All she can do is stop being fat, and she can paint her face. Guys can do it too, but roiding up costs about 10 years less of life expectancy... Guys straight up will not commit to a girl they aren’t attracted to, regardless of other factors. Not guys, chads won't. In reality chad/stacy is anyone who has more than few options they deem fuckable (and the feeling is mutual). And there's not all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 01:40 AM
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You have to meet someone’s base level of attractiveness before personality can come into play. Note that men have significantly lower looks standard, but also don't care about personality and resources and whatever else all that much. While an ugly girl still perceives it unfair all the boys orbit only stacy and not her, she can easily IOI a guy who's clearly zero chance with stacy and he'll respond. He's not a catch, clearly, but he's there. It doesn't work like that in opposite direction thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 01:02 AM
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Basically they're jealous an average woman can get the D at minutes notice, while a dude has to work for it. It always were, and always will be. You can't compare the two as "being same", they just wish it were like this for em too - pussy at moments notice. It can't be though, not how tournament species and sexual selection works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 12:55 AM
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Ambiguity in action, not in words. Action=masculine. Words=feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 09:32 PM
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The baseline biology is both AF/BB, but not really the way TRP thinks. Biologically, both our genders are adapted for both (notice single mate guarding instinct in men, and rich emotional entanglement in women to promote quasi-monogamy, yet harems can ensue in other circumstances). This is because chad games are efficient as sexual selection strat, but also hyperviolent, thus expensive for survival. Males are instinctually inclined to prefer "chad strat" only when the group can survive the resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 09:16 PM
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Guys are thirsty for women more than women are for men and will tolerate more for some golden cooch Yes, thirst disparity is the reason why men have lower (=women have higher) standards in general. But in ideal circumstances, the man has already fulfilled the standard offset (which is why they married). Team women will say the men are lazy dicks IMO offers a hint: "unfulfilled long term expectations". Basically when she marries someone who never realizes his potential she expected, and remains s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 09:00 PM
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I am open to arguments but as explicitly asked, with some epistemology. When you observe a phenomena you can't just say "all woman bad" because that's how you perceive it that way most of the time. It's the exact same thing most feminists do. Wouldn't it be better to attempt to model what actually drives the phenomena? Hence my outline in terms of game theoretic economics, and I'd expect counter argument within similarly rational framework. Both TRP and Feminism are full of normative statements …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 07:49 PM
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Pulled it out of my ass honestly, but any number wildly skewed towards female side (which I believe it is) would support the hypothesis that most women "settle down" and would rather be alone/branch swing, and eventually, they do. Whereas the husbands are more content.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 07:38 PM
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Are you shitting me? So then what, the chicks the get beaten by their men don't get to have standards of NOT being beaten due to "lack of options"? Don't cherry pick. Market dynamic is a generality. And yes, islamic women can get beaten as a general case - because they really don't have other options. No, some people have actual fucking standards. I've never been poor. I'm so fucking cheap it's been 15 years since I've gotten an new TV. But my wife and I have lived in Europe, have land out in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 07:36 PM
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And the TRP man is saying I have fucking standards that you don't cheat on me. Are they so low value that they aren't allowed to have standards imposed on their women? You can't use loyalty as a standard/attractiveness, because only someone who has small number of options cares about loyalty. An attribute which is strongly influenced by your own status can't be foreign attribute. Only poor people are concerned about expensive things. Loyalty is emergent when cost to defect and switch to other ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 07:21 PM
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Men's "quality" is who they can fuck. Women's "quality" is who they can keep. I'm not disputing that. The point is that the market still must add up regardless. By debating why, that it's in fact the environment instead of biology The debate is important because we can change our environment, not our biology. If chimps react to environment of social order, why can't humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 07:00 PM
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Whether men overestimate SMV, or women underestimate is the two sides of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:56 PM
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It's more like women can empathize with other women, and men with other men. It's more about putting oneself in one's shoes because you wore quite a similar pair of shoes before. A canonical example is "just be yourself" advice. Women think that this is a great advice because it generally works for em - being straightforward with their feelings, being themselves. While the reality of masculine experience would be "try to better yourself". Just standing still is a worst thing a man can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:29 AM
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pregnant without wanting it rape? Other than that, pro-choice is not all that much big deal. While its wonky ethically, pragmatism wins here. 200 years ago, our grand-grand-mas sometimes let that one kid out of 12 sleep in a chilly closet. Hoping it would get sick and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:15 AM
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Why are women preoccupied with forcing friendships with men? Why are (some) men preoccupied talking too much about their feelings and giggling together with a girl they like? No wonder they get friendzoned, they behave like a female friend. No way for sexual feelings there. This works the other way too. If a woman participates in male dominated activities with me, I'd generally lose sexual interest I might've had initially, and see her as "one of the dudes" tomboy instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:51 AM
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It's interesting lol this reminds me of the TRP plausible deniability tack.... It may sound that way, but try to get a woman go home with you by saying "ok, let's go to my place and fuck". That does work with the more direct minded women, but it's fairly rare. Most will consider such direct language "creepy", for reasons not entirely clear to me. I just had to learn "speak women" the hard way. As far I can see it, the ball of this bullshit is on the feminine court.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:42 AM
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The taboo is entirely societal, as marriage and pregnancy by 13-14 is a norm in most primitive societies. Are they pedophiles or rapists? Totally not, they have strong social code against that. I think the most important aspect is that primitive people living in harsh environment have short childhoods. Both boys and girls are adults by age of puberty, in every aspect of their social code, whereas in the west, people are not able to direct their life even post college. If we compare to tribespeop…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:09 PM
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Being addicted to the process of infatuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 12:00 AM
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Have opposite experience. Whenever I started to fret about it right before when it mattered, the women just assumed "that's men's business to care of" and was an instant mood killer. It always struck me as bizarre, that women fret about it a lot normally (it's their womb, abortion is shit experience, and I completely understand), but they go completely blank "in a heat of the moment". It's like some switch in their head they'd want to get pregnant when aroused, yet completely grossed out by the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:55 PM
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there are more wannabe e thots than beta males with disposable income Frankly, I just think thots suck at it to capture audience. It's not ONLY the feet pics that sells (there's gonewild subreddits just for that). Ironic as it sounds, it's the personality. The feet pics are just validation of "what's inside". In an inversion of beta chump thinking being nice is enough, majority of camwhores overfocus on their looks while that's a triviality boiling down to "don't be fat, choose a fetish, paint y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:38 PM
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Incels harping at camwhores don't realize apex fallacy they're committing, it's on par with the whole CEO pay gap thing. Only top 1% of e-whores "make it", while 99% strive to climb to the top. The competition on chaturbate is intense, especially for western girls whose only advantage in the game is english proficiency and cultural familiarity to attract fan base.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 10:43 PM
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Gamblers gamble knowing full well the house always wins. It's a fault in our cognition (dopamine reward even for always-losing odds). While seemingly irrational, it's absolutely crucial for most living organisms to do it. If all individuals gave up because the odds are low, there wouldn't be the few ones who are lucky and propagate the species. This is essentially the basis of nihilism - it's rational individually, but irrational to do for species as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 10:36 PM
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The numbers still don't add up no matter what you do. Consider typical senior HS/college (or chimp troop for that matter): 20/80 men and 80/20 for women split. Meaning top 80 women ride top 20 chad dicks, whereas 80 betas are left with bottom 20 girls and they grudgingly pair 1-to-1. You're left with 60 incels. Who has to lower their standards again?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 11:55 PM
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Dopamine circuitry needs strong expectation. The more something unlikely is, the more it is rewarding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrywDP9Ii0
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 06:58 PM
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Just a FWB harem. Doesn't mean that leads anywhere though - each and every of those women eventually back out of the harem in favor of someone who scales better in attention economy - if they have a choice to do so. Worse still, FWB arrangements are entirely materialistic, and scare away partners who would be interested in something more intimate (thus possessive). Pair bonding contract is largely based on mutual sacrifice of personal freedom in order to gain exclusivity of the mate. TRP lives i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 08:44 PM
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women age and desire families Looking at fertility rates, I'd not be so sure of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:58 PM
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Be desirable. To what end? It's not like if you're ChadAlphaAlpha it's all that easy to get anything more than casual sex or be trapped in marriage with a woman with mentality of a teenager. This isn't crisis of men (I consider that a consquence), this is crisis of love and adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:55 PM
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thats not even an option anymore Look for interviews with western men who joined ISIS.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:49 PM
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So what happens to these guys 10-20 years from now? Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:42 PM
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https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00148-017-0658-8
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 08:03 PM
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20-24 men isn't a significant age gap. 35-45 are both adults. 20-24 vs 35-45, that is 15 to 21 age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 07:58 PM
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This strikes me as pedophilic abuse of virgin naivete. Are most girls who are "preyed" on by older men really like this (most commonly 20-24 vs 35-45)? It's kind of hard to imagine. Not to mention it's actually young boys who are more likely to do this as most of his experience is from porn, not real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:48 PM
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I could have manipulated my younger boyfriend countless times if I wanted to. Can you give some specific example? Yes, younger people can be an easier target as they lack experience. Or someone same age with lack of dating experience. Insisting this is somehow fixed when both are same age doesn't strike me as a honest argument: You can trivially manipulate someone regardless of age if they love you. Relationship is about trust this is not going to be the case, not a tug-of-war of equal strength …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:35 PM
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I have no desire to have him do everything my way. That's not how dominance in relationships work. Submission is voluntary, or things fall apart in quick order. The reason why I'm not fond of "equal" relationships is frequent confusion. Trivialized example: One assumes the other picked the restaurant, but neither does or both do and have an argument. While when there's implicit dominance, one does, the other follows and only when follower is not happy how the choices are made, there's a discussi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:27 PM
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18yo is at a higher risk of being manipulated by a 40yo or by another 18yo? Specifically, can she manipulate back? And if both can play equal game, why does the age matter? All too often I see teen girls selling their selfies (or bathwater) OTI to lecherous creepy older men. Yet she's still a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:22 PM
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I ask all this because in a way I can relate to those men, I also prefer dating men younger than me, but going out of my way to get men my age or older mad was never part of my endgame. As a person married to significantly younger wife, let me ask you: Is this because you don't want to "babysit" the person over the periods where they lack some life experience you have? Because this was our dynamic from very early on, and it's a price you pay for being the dominant one. I consider "Equal" relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:10 PM
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but aren't there studies showing large age gaps tend to increase divorce rates? The same studies also report higher initial happiness for large age difference, but it lasts shorter. It's also easy to see why - the older partner "carries" the one less experienced in life. But eventually, realities start to creep in when they even out. It's also worth noting that both women and men report higher happiness with younger partner. The reason why older men tend to be the frequent case is that they're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:57 PM
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The average guy There's old RP parlance for that - AFC (average frustrated chump). They're usually not attractive universally, they just keep trying and sometimes get some but are not all that much different from incels in terms of raw physical features.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:03 PM
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Where were these women when there were two world wars to fight? That seemed to be mostly men pleasing women. You got your rhetoric mixed up, that one is "why women are not allowed into dangerous jobs?". Throughout history women were more like pets, or slaves who were not particularly adept at war. You'd not draft slaves who are not adept at war just to prove the point you're not a master, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 05:49 PM
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Most men expect women to take them how they come and love them unconditionally just like mommy did. Mommy issues definitely wreak havoc, especially in the 18-25 age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 05:47 PM
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Have casual sex -> get emotionally hurt. Keep a sex starved sap who's in love in you -> can't get hurt ("feel used"), also female side push-pull strategy by keeping the expectation high To guys out there: If a girls pulls "shes afraid you'll use her for sex", just tell her to GTFO for making assumptions about you. She's abusive and not serious about you at all, you're the one being used for emotional offloading, while getting zero intimacy in return - friendzone in a pretend "relationship".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 10:35 PM
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I'm inclined to believe this. Men are WHAT THEY DO - "is he successful?" - if he's muscular, or smart or w/e factors only indirectly - when he doesn't use those tools to achieve success, he's still not attractive. I'd wager the fantasy is of successful man as a concept. As for how men fantasize about women as an object - it's about WHO they are (is she pretty? is she smart? is she trustworthy?). But most men don't care jack shit how a woman actually uses those tools to achieve status. Whether an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 09:10 PM
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Is it inevitable for men to lose attractiveness any time they lose? Especially when the defeat is humiliating or emasculating. It works the other way too - attractiveness rises when a victory is achieved. I think the canonical example is the stereotype of cheerleader and a quarterback. As for how to avoid the domination game, strategize. Don't put yourself in positions where your power is directly challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 08:48 PM
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I think it’s because women automatically assume a man with a variety of past sexual partners is a ‘player’ or used some range of manipulative tactics to get to that number. This, but also insecurity how they'll "measure up" in terms of sexual experience. More or less kinkiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 08:23 PM
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It comes off as childish if you say ‘but she gave it up for Chad!’ No, it's "i don't want to do anal with YOU" - and the more honest, outspoken women will indeed straight tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 08:17 PM
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Infantilization. "She's good at X ... for a woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:37 AM
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No such thing as even if you don’t know yet Because unsolicited niceness I agree that at the critical stages, kids are just too young (they like me because i'm a princess!). But a 20yo woman which knows the elementary basics of golden rule and reciprocity, that's entirely something else. living up to what they offered? I have a hard time parsing that sentence. I understand it the girl confronts about his niceguyness, he offers to be "just a friend and nothing more" ... and then proceeds in his b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 05:44 PM
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What exactly would you want a woman to do even if she suspected? Well, for starters stop bullshitting about it. Most women strongly suspect, but can't exactly act on it for multitude reasons - orbiters are street cred currency in female hiearchy, she doesn't want to embarass herself on the off chance her suspicion is wrong etc. "I leave him to it" is a bullshit cop out. Whenever girls have a tea party and gossip whos orbiting where, they're ridiculously accurate. they’re dealing with it on their…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:57 PM
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The whole "game" thing is a bit stupid. It's more about not being crass. Vast majority of women live in this parallel gentle reality of soft innuendo and plausible deniability. She doesn't say "i'm horny!" and he doesn't say "let's go fucking!". Instead she pulls out a phone charger from somewhere and says her phone is dying, and needs to charge it somewhere - in a restaurant with power outler in front of her. And he drives her home to find that outlet and charge they do indeed... The game prima…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:37 PM
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In a sense, they really don't have agency: 1) They're stuck in oneitis, they're suddenly not attracted to other girls, not by default anyway. That's unexplored territory to many of em. 2) Mother (part subconsciously) hammered into their head just be nice, "rescue the damsel", and she reciprocates. It's kinda sad to watch really, older guys often try to convince em about what goes on, but they never listen, they're stuck in their "disney loop". As for women claiming not "knowing" about friendzone…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:16 PM
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I'd say a second, if eye rape is socially acceptable. It's a single top-down glance height/hair/face/tits/thigs/smell (just cursory to check its not a hobo).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:09 PM
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Of the highest profile porn "power couples" (which, perhaps unsurprisingly, ended up with rape drama), search for Deen with Stoya. There were bunch more like that. Generally if the pair has good chemistry (irl not just on screen), and you see competent clit stimulation, chances are it's legit. Also, https://twitter.com/heyiris/status/998715564460670977 may shed some light on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 04:44 AM
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It's somewhat rare, and far more common in amateur and lesbian porn (for obvious reasons). Seems like you have very particular kind of porn in mind (vanilla with no clit stimulation). But the landscape is vaster than that. Your skepticism is common too, probably because good amount of women are incapable of vaginal orgasm altogether. As for how (likely) orgasm looks in porn, just like in real life - usually immediately pushing the partner away, dropping the dildo etc. It looks somewhat out of pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:40 AM
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PIV orgasms on the set (lol, bless their hearts) A small minority does - the rare occasion of nymphomaniac model (usually broken to a point they can't get off without knowing they're on camera). think that women act like porn plots and so all women are sluts One of the more bizarre outcomes of this is peculiar kind of women who are not all that experienced in reality, but casually drop very crass and explicit language suspiciously souding like describing a porn act. They use it as catnip to coll…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:23 AM
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It's not as easy to figure this out in humans as it's hard to get reasonably controlled environments. But in general T/E levels relate to domination/subordination in poorly understood ways in humans. If I were to speculate: A guy is just fucking a girl and otherwise IDGAF about her, she's clearly subservient. So if anything, it drops T levels in her, effect on the guy unknown. Conversely, if a guy is subservient (simple test of submissivity: does he suddenly switch to high pitched voice when he …
/r/askTRP22/07/19 02:12 AM
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I can't find the paper name atm, but there is one on macaques where T levels drops according to how dominant the alpha female is (ie replace one alpha stacy with even bigger stacy). The mechanism is cross related to cycle synchronization (which too is commanded by the alpha female). The fun part is that it drops in ALL the subordinate monkeys, male and female (ie lesser females are less interested in sex). Macaques are matriarchy, so a shitton of pussy whipping going on.
/r/askTRP22/07/19 02:01 AM
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The thing i agree on is self control, well at least a little of it. The self control is not about frequency as such, but being careful so as to not derail the mechanism libido feedback loops were evolved for. Women have complementary mechanism to "keep up", and the regulatory complex together is simply meant to reinforce intimacy, as well as power display (esp with situational homosexuality). Some other animals do the same thing (bonobos, macacques, dolphins...).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 01:23 AM
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French De Sade? As for later Victorian erotica, my favorite is genre-defining and hilarious The Lustful Turk. I'd say there was a trend toward meekness over time, with modern porn being meh compared to the hardcore scenes of gothic erotica. English major Any regrets yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 01:02 AM
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Porn isn't all that unique. Hanging out with whores women complained about loong before porn, and a lot of men were pretty much addicted to hookers. It was a serious vice, on par with being an alcoholic or worse. Both because of STDs, raised standards, wasted money, and most importantly, because it destroyed self-image of the wife. Fun historical fact: In ancient sumer, nobody cared whether woman (to be married, or a sex slave) was virgin or not. Instead, she had a checklist of sex acts she was …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 12:48 AM
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It helps men avoid any disadvantage in romantic endeavors. That's too much of oversimplified view. Men libido is to certain degree reactive - that is, with no stimulation (harem keeping in the past, porn addiction nowadays), brain downregulates "lust" reaction to T levels. There does not seem to be a massive tidal wave of women missing such men so i think it’s probably fine overall. Oh, there's a mass of women constantly bitching about their SO addicted to pornhub. And the traffic statistics ("i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 12:39 AM
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ultimately selfish, a sort of Randian rationalists make everyone into prostitutes It's more along the lines of Deleuze/Land. Many markets, many winners, one market less winners. Global markets encroach on territories like that. Zamyatin style of total equality sex Plot: Obesity and other unhealthy lifestyles destroy sex capital at such a rate it unexpectedly becomes the Great Equalizer, finally bringing world peace as incels stop declaring caliphates just because of being frustrated. When everyo…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/19 02:02 AM
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One of the more eclectic philosophy subs (which often deal with the topic at hand - alienation - after you filter out the schizo quack posts). Another one would be r/thelastpsychiatrist. If we narrow the context back to women - what you wrote in parent is essentially “the problem that has no name” – chronic fatigue, crippling boredom, perpetual dissatisfaction - Christopher Lasch wrote a book about it with quite a few interesting insights, including role of church and volunteer work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:09 AM
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/r/sorceryofthespectacle
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:13 AM
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Indeed the currency exchange is somewhat self-evident. I'd not call it N count, what is actually traded here is reproductive potential - essentially youth. Better reproductive potential commands higher price, typically mix of both male genetics and resources. The contention, both for TRP and Feminists is whether this standard still makes sense, especially when reproductive context is increasingly irrelevant (ie a lot of dating happens because of other reasons than reproduction, thus the original…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:57 AM
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How much you need to kick a dog for it to behave like a wolf? Our self-domestication isn't just cultural, but directed evolutionary suppression of instinctual traits because those were low-yield within civilized context. Very much like we did with dogs. The fun paradox of nature/nurture is that our capacity for cruelty is far more rational than instinctual now. Meaning we're so smart we can adapt to be far more cut throat, if circumstances (ideology) call for it, than just the mere atrophied bea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 05:01 AM
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I think it was something about losing temper? While I think weak men and women tend to employ related barking tactics in daily life of power play (domestic, office politics etc), things are fundamentally different when we enter the axis of stockholm syndrome. That is, stress situation where some threat is perceived credible and it's not just barking about money, infidelity, sex, feelings etc. It doesn't even need to entail violence. Think of the Black Mirror episode with blackmail. Such events t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 04:17 AM
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If "good" guys keep them in check then why are cops more likely to believe a women saying she was robbed than raped? You forgot firemen. Because they decided to keep women out of those professions. It was decided so on secret patriarchy meetings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:39 AM
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Men are still in the "caveman want sex" stage while women are the "we should be building utopia with our technology and resources" stage of civilization. Once you realize it's not about who can beat up who, you will grow as a person. Caveman want sex, caveman build clubs, and raid neighbor tribe and also invent fire and wheel to get better at it. Even scientific community is pretty testosterone driven, nerd trying to outnerd one another. The moment a scientist gets famous, he still drowns in pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:28 AM
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What you're seeing is two different groups of women-the ones who are overly bold and the ones who are cautious-and not bothering to distinguish between the two. What I like to call this is overt and covert submission. An overt submissive constantly barks (but can't bite, not really). Whereas being strategically submissive is far more rational. There's often strong link to intelligence, ie physically weak men and women who don't bark in direct way realize that there's more to power dynamic than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:02 AM
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through socialization It's more likely because of civilization. We're like self-tamed animals. Meaning we're simply not stressed enough for these baseline lizard brain instincts to ever trigger (save for the occasional elliot rodger snapping). But ultimately, the harsher the conditions become, the harsher and cut throat behavior and most people don't realize how quick and drastically they can "adapt". It's not "in there but suppressed" per se, it's what is the potential for us to become, accordi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 01:39 AM
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I didn't do much explaining because she took it personal. Awful lot of women derive self-worth from partner's desire, and more generally external approval. Whether that's patriarchy, or nature is hard to say, but it's just the way it is in the common case. Either live with that reality, or find a partner with less codependent form of self-esteem. Note that independent relationships like that have their own cans of worms (think PC principal and Ms. Strongwoman). With no codependence, there has to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 04:11 PM
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I don't want to know. This is exceptionally wise attitude when it comes to a lot of things in relationships, and one way to effectively deal with our natural tendency to be controlling and possessive. Don't ask, don't tell about obvious yet icky stuff. Trust implicitly and confront only if there are red flags affecting you directly. She sounds like a crazy bitch to me. Pretty much. Digging up something we as a culture pretend doesn't exist for a very good reason she doesn't apparently understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:39 PM
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Women prefer quality, men prefer quantity, and the ignorance of differing perspectives causes silly generalizations ("men are pigs!", "women are frigid!")
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 12:03 PM
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Mental disorders correspond to maladaptive gender stereotypes. AS/NPD for "toxic masculinity", BPD/HPD for "toxic feminity". From that perspective, the studies on such behavior can nicely sidestep PC bullshit filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 10:28 AM
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Philosophy of nihilism, which denies common reality as objective, or even existence of value as such, is far out of scope. Ironically, arguments ad nihilum don't carry too much weight here. By their own account. I like your relevant username, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:29 AM
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The AWALT mentality is fucking dumb. That would be like me thinking all white people are evil. It's more like a lot of US whites being racist because they get their stereotypes based on hood gangbangers. It's pre-selected akin to apex fallacy. Same for terpers making incorrect judgements by having the word "all" pre-selected in very same fashion. When you cut all the bullshit, you clearly see both of the template groups of people are just stuck in very damaging, but strongly reinforced lifestyle…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:58 AM
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I have yet to meet these women but I guess they're around...somewhere. Can't have daddy issues when there's never a strong dad (if at all) around for a lot of people. It used to be a bit more common when macho dads were aplenty. For outliers, seek out fetish communities (esp BDSM)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:41 AM
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Human body craves sugar. I don't eat sugar, because it's garbage. It follows that I lose respect for myself for depriving myself of sugar, as well as I lose respect of others, because I'm not morbidly obese? While I can follow the "logic" of hedonism, the issue here is toddler mentality of sucking on your thumbs, because ancient lizard brain tells you to. There's an easy fix of course - stop putting value on pointless hedonism, and use something of objective value. Such as relationship and raisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:23 AM
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NEETdom is way overblown. Even in Japan, NEETs comprise only about 5% or so of the male productive age population. It can't even remotely begin to explain the fertility crash.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:08 AM
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What these men are basically arguing is that the markets have become more efficient Cornered markets are not efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 11:59 PM
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Female sexuality is much closer to validation, as opposed testosterone driven lust. This is why a lot of women still enjoy orgasm-less sex - because that's not the objective of the act from their perspective. This is also why they frequently fake orgasm - it's a projection, presuming that men treat her as a "trophy", while in reality a brainless guy wouldn't care less. If you really want to trivialize it to pure brainless cynicism, a man to a woman is a trophy, woman to a man is onahole. Of cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 11:52 PM
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Naivete and ideation is well established and observable. Pair bonding isn't. A woman can be easily as jaded, irrespectable of having sex with a chad early on or not. You can easily see this in the wild with the bottom 30% or so of ugly women - they fucked someone just out of peer pressure, because no way in hell a chad of her dreams would be interested. They don't pair bond with that match up, and nor do guys in similar situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 08:06 PM
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6-12 months is awfuly common period. She's simply immature and possibly not really interested in the relationship. You also sound quite possesive, which isn't a good sign either. Drop her, or you can babysit each other in hopes you eventually call out one's another bullshit. Your call.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/19 04:02 AM
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what? it IS very common for girls to be head over heels for their first guy. Yes, puppy love is infatuating, but according to the pair bonding dogma, it should last eternally the second a benis enters the bagin ... because pairbonding ... or something? what? no. this isn't the norm. idk where you are getting this. Simply ask, instead of apriori assuming every girl has daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 03:36 AM
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They do, all matriarchies (both animal and human) are rampantly polygamous because they reflect female take on sexuality. It's one of the lines TRP is generally spot on - women are willing to share chad, as long he's still a good bargain from her perspective compared to the exclusivity offers. Better example for your line of thinking is why a lot of women are jealous of porn and prostitutes, where the emotional bargaining is explicitly eliminated by design. My suspicion is some sort of culturall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 11:39 PM
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Using alpha widow logic in here (which in and itself does exist to some extent) + virginity doesn't work very well as you now have an onus of proof that virgins fuck only chads (obviously average guy is far less likely to abandon the ship). Further, it goes contrary to 20/80 - most hook up with their peer, which further removes the chadness factor. Meaning: If the virgin-bond effect is strong as TRP claims, how come its almost never observable in the wild, now that virginity has stopped being va…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 10:55 PM
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Because I was previously naive, the pussy parade has also made me resentful and somewhat bitter. The Pill isn't particularly useful as a dogma, because it's looking at a currency market, while at best completely ignoring, and at worst misrepresenting the trading strategies of the counterparty. A man who "sells himself short" will orbit/whiteknight. A woman who "sells herself short" will sleep around on tinder/FWB. While both genders claim this transaction doesn't happen, it's abundantly present …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 04:31 PM
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I think "pair bonding" is largely TRP mythos where men project their own attitude on women. Mostly because it tends to be men who actually pair bond through sex (orbiting, being "clingy" for sex). A manwhore indeed will have diminished ability to bond through sex ("chad which never commits"). Conversely, women don't attach nearly as much importance to sex, as their main concern is for "emotional infidelity". The whole situation is ironic because it's the male N count - not in terms of sex, but o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 09:06 AM
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Men typically dont get help as much as women. The female risk-aversity is reflected to culture and all permeating indeed. If you're talking about mental disorders, men have a larger standard of deviation in IQ than women. So geniuses are more likely to be men, but people with mental problems are more likely to be male as well. The higher genetic variance in bell scattershot is far too small to explain the numbers. Just because there's 1stdev of population more genetically likely to be depressed …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 01:51 PM
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Depression and low self-esteem don't correlate particularly well. I'm not even sure about your statement about depression, since it's phenomenally difficult to estimate - it's certainly true that women intensely medicate SSRIs. They also medicate more painkillers, even if women have provably higher pain thresholds. When you stop looking at self-reporting, and bring in actual symptoms of depression - such as suicides, or psychomotor retardation, men lead 3:1 or so. My take on this: Women complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 01:18 PM
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The only biological aspect is that women are risk averse. Staying loyal to loser (as well as other forms of loyal "doing the right thing") is taking a risk, running with the enemy is less risk. Whatever TRP has to say about that are just constructions and resulting anecdotes arising from risk aversity. Weak men do the same thing. Chickenshits have no bone, who'd thunk, huh? Women are also typically more conscientious. This is no paradox - when there is actual punishment (being fired from a job e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 04:20 PM
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Women are less arrogant, and take less risks, which is why they gravitate to safe choices. Low self-esteem is thrown around a lot, but somewhat rare in reality (result of child abuse parents telling "you'll never amount to anything").
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 03:31 PM
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Femcels get fuckzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 03:23 PM
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Guess I wanted to get this off my chest. I really do not know what to do. What do I need to do in order to get rid of this thought that most women are manipulative? You have one-sided perspective. Men are not honest with women either - most of men will whiteknight, telling her she's "intelligent, good friend" etc, while in reality, they're just projecting the idealized version of her. This generally goes both ways - "shit test" is not conscious manipulation, it's just confrontation with idealize…
/r/ExRedPill18/05/19 03:03 PM
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I think most people are (hopefully) aware that these folks are playing up their personality and verbal delivery for the camera. The point is that the audience is no longer aware. Social media and youtube are marketed as "personal" and "close" experience and younger people perceive it exactly that way, even if it's anything but. pewdiepie 'bros' isn't just thrown willy nilly, the intended audience truly feels like being in a room with older brother. The inauthenticity stems from raising something…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/19 11:12 PM
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Is this just for advertising dollars then? No, it's nowhere as jaded as that. Whores are easy to spot, whores also don't exactly crave niche audiences. What you're seeing here is akin to kids starting a garage band. They don't do it for the money, they do it for fame and influence, and not necessarily in power/status sense of the word - many a punk rocker (or a /pol/ poster in this case) truly just wanted to spread the message they truly believe. The crisis of authenticity is in regards to audie…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/19 10:19 PM
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I'm somewhat involved in zoomer soundcloud futurebass/rap scene as well as documenting e-celeb drama, so know the whole circlejerk of vapor/egg/soph from their CS:GO days. What is going on here is nowhere near "authentic" as people would assume, but that goes for most of e-celebs, and younger internet implicitly takes it as reality of cellphone-glued lifestyle (authenticity crisis). Regardless of the behind-the-scenes, the end product is done and targeted extremely well, and all the fame soph ge…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/19 07:09 PM
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simple: Follower count is rarely indicator of merit of a ghostwriter. Not everyone is seeking that sort of self-validation and/or e-celeb career.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/19 06:45 PM
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I'd say women are more judgemental of appearance, both of their own (body image disorders), and that of men, and even in completely unrelated areas of aesthetics (a lot of men have aesthetical IDGAF attitude from female perspective). However theres only limited room on being able to act on the judgement due to cultural monogamy and conflict with seeking commitment, thus they "settle down". This is all subjective discontent - on bell curve man can be 5/10, while subjectively the woman rates him 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:04 PM
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watching their mom be the man of the house But this is the case regardless of class half of the time. survival mode I have almost opposite experience, people who grew up piss poor tend to be warmer, if a bit crass and sometimes with some horrible habits inherited from the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 04:03 AM
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Some men here won't like me saying this but I wanted a certain lifestyle and I wanted a man who lived it and could afford it. It is practical social climbing. Seems like I misinterpreted because I didn't read the op well - assuming you were same status, not dating up. In that case, the control theory of innate gender drives still hold, don't they? There's certainly some room for questions: If you were a bimbo, that is, drastically lower, it'd be unattractive for obvious reason - being a bimbo. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:52 AM
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If you allow me to pass judgement, you're simply high T (or more affected by it). More driven, direct, with need for control and preference for effeminate men. While fairly common trait in high achiever women, this is absolutely not the norm in general - nor are effeminate men who'd be truly indifferent about relinquishing the need to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:27 AM
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You can't really believe that gender roles should be abolished while advising gender roles. The sounder strains of feminism do, however, have an ideal of both genders abolishing their biological programming. Make women less passive, men less aggressive, both meeting in the middle. The issue is that this is massively incongruent with our instincts - for it to ever happen, you'd need to castrate all men, and inject women with steroids to get anywhere near that mindset. Gender roles are biological …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:42 AM
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This is deeply ingrained into mammal biology, the effect is proportional to sexual (size) dimorphism. A male losing the fight for territory loses the females in there. Females who stayed loyal to the loser male lost protection and faced hostility -> didn't reproduce -> wasn't selected for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:29 AM
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women gatekeep more You see this market tilt because women no longer need the commitment (birth control; state subsidy) from vast majority of the guys, so they deem worthy competing only for the highly desirable minority. Men can't gatekeep that which can't they sell. Roll backwards 2 centuries to enforced monogamy, and suddenly the gatekeeping is roughly equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:23 AM
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They're boring AF after the first night. That's what (sub)Madonna-(dom)Whore complex is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:16 AM
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TRP is a bit blindfolded to one aspect of male sexuality - the need to dominate. And yes, this often times means "dominating" women. A woman being financially independent (or even the man being dependent on her) in a way decreases attractiveness as you are being "dominated" less. This effect can go even into negative, when a woman acts "motherly" (ie dominating the man), it's a dick shrinker. This of course ignores various fetishes, but in general case I think the "need to be in control" is prev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 11:54 PM
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Some random brazilian kid. twitter.com/nessykurt
/r/TheRedPill16/05/19 04:23 PM
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The way I see it, both provide value in their specific area of expertise: The guy does content, the girl does presentation, and the result of both is far more powerful than either attempting going at it separately. Sum is better than separated parts. For what it's worth, soph does give credit when asked about it, and in their live streams you see as much you'd expect - soph being normal, if somewhat articulate 15yo girl, and vapor extremely lucid and well read older teenager. edit: typo
/r/TheRedPill16/05/19 12:03 AM
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Vaporboy's impeccable writing, soph's impeccable memorizing it.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/19 10:53 PM
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"With the advancement of age, the sexual activity of women tends to decline. The menopause itself tends to further reduce the retrogression of the sexual activity in women." Yes. Old people are less horny. The cougar effect refers to specifically the period of 30-45, after that there tends to be sharp drop of menopause your article actually elaborates on. It's really hard to say what happens afterwards. The fact that menopause has absolutely no bearing on cheating in the 50yo-60yo suggests that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 03:55 AM
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It's a gradual increase. The rise is abrubt during 30-40 cohort from a shared baseline. Another explanation could be women's sex drive decreases more rapidly as they age The general wisdom gravitates towards opposite - http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2007422,00.html Empirically, at the same time men start to cheat, women get significantly more horny, and thus start putting up more bid offers which raises the prospects a little. Nobody really knows why this is - one theory is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 02:49 AM
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No need to imagine. Just look at the drama in homosexual communities, the promiscuity in there is legendary. yet men still cheat more in general Be very careful to not lump cheating and promiscuity together. Age also plays immense role wrt attractiveness. 15-25% of incels in millenial cohort, as opposed to 5% femcels. It's quite obvious which gender is far more promiscuous here. Only married couples past 25 cohort flips this around, when gender politics nukes female for promiscuity, and by 30, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:59 AM
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It also doesn't show cheating is based off attraction. Compared to unattractive people, attractive people have ample opportunity for promiscuity - more suitors attempting to seduce em. My reasoning is that this factor eventually transcends any and all other biases (cultural biases, gender politics of commitment etc). An attractive person is far less likely to fuck one way out of their league. Common sense, huh? This, when combined with gender-specific perception of their opposite gender - which …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:33 AM
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The gap is 1% in women below 30 The par for 18-29 demo is important, because historically it was indeed men who cheated more - there's a strong rising trend. Still, does that mean it's more ok to cheat on someone you find less attractive? No, it's pointless to use generalized incentives to excuse one's own behavior. You do you, people do people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 12:54 AM
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They do, on women past 30. It really boils down to attractiveness, not gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 12:43 AM
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views about female sexuality A lot of misunderstanding could be avoided simply by educating both genders about the natural sexual dynamics. The math is actually simple - in general, both attractive men and women tend to cheat. It just so happens there's far more attractive women than men. It's not reasonable to pass judgement on any given individual, when the general dynamic is more result of how men generally perceive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 10:08 PM
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Guilt by association.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 02:45 PM
1

> I would say though that reduced adversity is more from technological advances than political advances. I agree. Specifically, the long supply chains of industrial society mandate peace - it's more profitable for elites than to duke it out. It's difficult to say what exactly happens during peak oil. I'd wager that only parts of world would collapse back to african levels of patriarchy. Those who are not as nearly as dependent would just see more rapid stagflation. Peak oil isn't something all a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:45 PM
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> but if you look at history, more patriarchal cultures tend to overtake Patriarchy has an edge in face of external adversity (natural selection). Matriarchy has an edge absent external adversity (sexual selection). Modernity is unique in that it reduced adversity to almost nothing, hence the drift towards matriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:59 AM
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Return to original programming, since nuclear/tribal family structure doesn't bring any benefit to female side anymore. Primates often gravitate to matriarchy in terms of raising offspring. Female relatives stick together to raise young ones. Males are expelled from "home" and roam free, never having any connection to offspring they sire. Sexual selection like this seems most optimal when no strong parental investment is necessary (apex predators or r-strategy spammers).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 11:38 PM
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No other animal prioritizes ideology over biology. Disputable. What about the beautiful ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 01:25 AM
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The "double standard" is what I have a problem with, as it assumes that the overall difficulty of getting a sexual partner is equal for both genders, while reality seems to indicate that its more difficult for women to convince a man to commit. But for a man it's more difficult to even attract a woman in the first place (commitment notwithstanding). He has to put effort into it. You know, the tired key&lock argument. There's a possible solution if the aforementioned observations are merely cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:43 PM
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If every woman tried to date a man more attractive than she, we'd run out of men. If 6/10 women can get 8/10 men, and 8/10 women 10/10 men, what are the 9/10 and 10/10 women getting? That's why TRP has the notion of cock carousel. A 10/10 man will supposedly "buy" all women in the 6/10 .. 10/10 range bulk, leaving the other 6/10..9/10 men with no pair. Much higher gamete cell production in males and all. Note that this is how many mammal species procreate, but the difference might be that we're …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:16 AM
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Passive-aggressive mind games (as a way to covertly violate boundaries) - instead of being honest and straightforward. Toxic masculinity is being way too direct to the point of being forceful and not just assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 05:02 AM
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I don't see how scale matters at all, compare to Japan if you want a G8 example. It's all about tax load. Rest of the civilized world is taxed 50%+ income, everything included. It sucks, but it has its perks (ie functional healthcare). The US has tax load of only like 20% at the cost of having no social services in key areas whatsoever (education, healthcare). And any attempts at reform and tax higher is met with rabid response "dem hippy commies!", while the model is proven to work elsewhere.
/r/MensRights16/11/15 01:41 PM
2

These days its mostly hobbies associated with weird fetishes, try MLP and anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:37 PM
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Not sure if this is intended jab at SJW (which is equally derogatory term for lefty liberals just as dark enlightenment is for righty reactionaries). In case you didn't mean it like that, see http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/03/03/reactionary-philosophy-in-an-enormous-planet-sized-nutshell/ "Manosphere" is just tip of the iceberg, the equivalent of how feminist is Cosmopolitan - frankly, somewhat myopic/oversimplified for popular consumption. There are philosophic schools of conservatism one defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 07:39 AM
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There is no racist, sexist, privileged, straight, gay, cis, or offensive code Feminist software foundation C plus equality Interestingly, this CoC thing is probably to have unified stick to beat future mock feminism with.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/15 09:41 PM
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google and you tube will police their content But they already do. https://www.chillingeffects.org/ As long it's illegal in target country, they'll comply on geoip basis. It's like viewing hitler youtube videos in germany, you get a nag screen instead that you should get a proxy or move to someplace less nanny state.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/15 06:21 PM
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he might be stuck paying for a child that isn't his Ooor.. if the current trend of biological fatherhood meaning jack shit continues, the kid might end up with 25 fathers in the best case. Now THAT is some serious role modeling. More likely 25x child support. In either case, would make the guys think twice gangbanging party girls; the odds wouldn't be stacked anymore.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 04:46 PM
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Make it a threesome, no homo of course.
/r/askTRP13/03/15 06:24 AM
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Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like? Other than that, your tenet is right on the money. Machiavelli didnt advocate to abandon morals altogether (which is what some terpers don't get - politics (gender or not) is not necessarily all about acting like a psychopath), but only at times of crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 02:13 AM
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tl;dr: nietzsche / machiavelli
/r/TheRedPill23/01/15 09:28 PM
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