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In my personal experience and from others' stories, we hav3 the same fears. As men, we just aren't really allowed to show those fears for the most part. In my experience, a woman who accepts a man's fears instead of seeing him as less of a man for it is rare. We have most of those same fears, but we typically have to mask them out of fear of being made less than for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:22 PM
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Yes. We do fear dark parking lots and walking home alone. The difference is that we don't get to show it as fear. The difference is pretty clear, I'm think. Heck, I've told a woman let's walk the long way home because a street was sketchy at night and I got called a pussy for years and had her tell her friend group I wasn't a man. It was expected that I poke my chest out and defend her life with mine if required.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:00 AM
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"Tainted by technology and media" Did you not know these were 2 different things? "Without any stimuli other than your mind" Vibrstors are technology. Vibrators are an unnatural, technological stimulation besides your mind that mimics vibrations that would be unnatural without said technology. It's the same thing. The only difference is you aren't looking at your vibrator. Stop this holier than thou act if it's only going to hold the same standards against one gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:38 PM
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I think its the part of your post that says along with other women they know that leaves it open to that interpretation. You have to be super detailed on here, or it goes off the rails.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:35 PM
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But that is technological advancements. It is an unnatural thing. How is it different from sayong men using porn to orgasm are sad? If a woman uses a vibrator she is litterally using technology to orgasm. If you can't get yourself to an orgasm without technology you are sad right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:32 PM
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But stepsis porn isn't jerking off to people you know. Just pointing this out because it doesn't support your post as it has nothing to do with it. Unless you're saying you are in some of the videos he watches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:03 PM
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I agree. Women who use vibrators are sad and have been tainted by technology as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:00 PM
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I think it's really just that with the media we are exposed to every day, it's easy to disassociate when viewing through digital mediums.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:41 PM
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And I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying women do the same thing, and it's a human problem, not men do this problem. Just because women tend to use a different vocabulary doesn't mean it's a different situation. You don't have to look hard to find every subset of humans doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:26 PM
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Because you've created an argument where the only solution is that they are human while also confining the discussion to a subset of humans. Its disingenuous bevaise you've disassociated the word from the action to make it seem as a man problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:13 PM
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So, instead of addressing the issue that's actually causing it, you selected a word that men use more and went from there? That's pretty disingenuous, in my opinion. If we're going to base this conversation on a word that you've already decided men use more than you have already created the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:07 PM
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It should. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I think humans just naturally suck when compared to morality. Ya, we can be nice, generous, or compassionate, but we all generally want to survive and have the best outcome for us. As much as it should stop it'll be generations of life before that could even be changed imo and having the debate as if one subset of humans do something others don't when it comes to morality is insane. It reads the same to me as a religious person shouting down the sinners in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:49 PM
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But that isn't what the diacussion is about. It's about that MEN do this while failing to realize men don't do this. People do. If you want a real answer on this stop asking the question of why do men do this and ask why do humans have the nature to make their thoughts validated over others by using some sort of demeaning language towards the other? To me, it's pretty simple. Were all narcissistic, fucked up, self motivated people who are capable of doing good for others but in the heat of the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:33 PM
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And women don't? Stop trying to act like we're that different. Women make generalizations based on the same stuff. Woman leaves her man for something she can't get over, and men call it illogical. Man leaves his woman for something he can't get over he's called shallow and told he was only with her for sex. It's not many of them it's many of us. We're all narcissists, and if you think you aren't, then you just haven't noticed it yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:05 PM
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No, we get called pigs when we're seen in this state. If we decide we don't like a trait our partner has and leave, we are called shallow and heartless and told we must have only wanted sex if we couldn't get past that. Women's first thought in my experience is, as you said, not to call us illogical but to attribute it to malice. Women use the same things to make different generalizations. To act as if men are just calling women illogical and they're first though to the same stuff isn't equally …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:00 PM
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Na. Dudes just going to say my links are mainstream media and then link one of the same research sites to try and say I'm wrong 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:07 AM
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So ncbi.nlm.nih.gov is a mainstream media article? Because I have that site linked as well with a peer reviewed study you glossed over. If you're calling that mainstream media and it's the same site your link is from then isn't yours just mainstream media as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:04 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/talking-apes/202212/do-men-really-have-stronger-sex-drives-than-women It's not a full study, but you can cross analyze the numbers and determine it checks out. I could continue to link medical professionals debunking the gap of sexual drive. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10125944/ https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare https://www.health.com/libido-7098982 It seems like a lot of this comment thread views libi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:49 AM
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Some studies suggest that about 1/3 of women have a higher sex drive than the average man. Doesn't really seem that overwhelmingly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:56 PM
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The only real issue is if men fake a part of a relationship and then stop doing it, people say they are pigs who lured a woman with false perceptions of the relationship. As much as you may say, you would have the same thing to say if a man did it, but in general, that isn't how it's viewed. While obviously women shouldn't have to have sex with someone they don't want to, i think part of the issue is the different way it's viewed in general. Women can decide they just don't want to do that part …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:53 PM
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So if a man got into a relationship where he never really wanted to emotionally support his SO but did it out of duty and then one day decided to stop is he in the right or is he an AH who should have never got into a relationship knowing he doesn't want to take part in a major function of a relationship? The problem is that women get into a relationship and will have sex to secure the relationship while having no attraction and then once it's secured they cut back the sex because they never wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:37 PM
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But you used your partner failing to put your needs first which to me implies you have the expectations that your needs are put first by your partner while also having the expectation that you shouldn't have to put your needs before your partner for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:29 PM
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By your own logic, wouldn't you also be failing to put your partners needs first by not wanting to touch them in spite of the fact that they want you to? You don't get to say your partner should put your needs first while also putting your needs first. You either expect that you both put your needs above the other or that you put the others' needs above yours. Not my needs are first to both of us. Seriously, actually think about the scenario where you feel hurt and you desperately want your part…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:10 PM
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So your solution to women treating men like shit for asking to pay isn't to change anything it's to tell men screen if they will pay. Interesting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:34 PM
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If I had stopped going on dates I wouldn't have gone on the date with my wife so no there wouldn't be the same outcome as if I stopped going on dates because no women paid I wouldn't have gone on the date that ended in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:14 PM
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Because I didn't stop going on dates. I stopped asking women to pay anything on the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:10 PM
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But if you jusy avoid even going on the date you've effectively removed yourself from the possibility of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:04 PM
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Totally agree. If it's a little while that she's not into it, she's just not into it. If it's that bad, go jerk off and let her chill. I think when it's things I've seen where people are saying they haven't been attracted to their partners in years and just keep saying they aren't feeling good it's more like withholding because you're not giving them the ability to have sex while also giving them some sort of false hope that there is a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:02 PM
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Ya. From what I've seen it hasn't been solved as to why or what the correalatiinary effect is in women but it seems to be pointing more to sex drive being a general human thing that's equally distributed instead of being biased towards men having a naturally higher sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:00 PM
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While I'm not saying you are wrong, I'd like to add that when I was younger, I brought up splitting the bill with 3 different women. I was berated and told how much of a piece of scum I was to the point I never asked a woman to pay for anything again until I eventually met my wife, and she offered.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:58 PM
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I personally believe there is a point that it becomes withholding but I also don't believe women should have to have sex if they don't want to. I believe at a point if a partner doesn't want anything to do with their partner sexually just in general but doesn't inform them of that or have a conversation it becomes withholding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:50 PM
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Maybe the pills don't necessarily make sense to me because I had a mixture of both ways of believing well before I had ever even heard of either. Like in your example of requesting a paternity test. Personally, I've never felt the need to ask for one but wouldn't have an issue if I felt there was a need. But I also believe they should be done for everyone in the hospital before the birth certificate is signed. With what you describe as red pill, I kinda just think it is normal, and everyone subc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:46 PM
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That doesn't really seem like the big bad thing I've heard it made out to be. It really just seems like you're encouraged to make observations and educated decisions based on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:34 PM
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So by red pill logic if a man wants to be a simp and gets a woman to cuck him then he's achieved it because all red pill really advocates for is the individuals achievement of their personal goals? Just want to say I'm nit asking as like a gotcha even though it may sound like it I'm just curious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:31 PM
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But isn't you expecting someone to get in a relationship with you and limit your personality to fit within their boundaries also a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:48 PM
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I could understand saying it's a red flag that you may not be compatible, but I think it's a bit excessive to say a lack of respect and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:17 PM
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Some newer studies are pointing more to the conclusion that having sex increases testosterone levels instead of what we've been taught that higher testosterone levels cause a higher sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:49 PM
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I think that's more just what happens on reddit. I've been able to find men's online resources that put you in contact with men who want to and are willing to help each other. In person I haven't really experienced any of this mentality yet. Obviously if you're both trying to get a date with the same women guys aren't going to be super helpful but even with that I haven't seen anyone go off the deep end to keep another man from shooting his shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:31 PM
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Yes. As I've experienced it first hand. In person and online. Men have been more receptive to any issues I'm having, more willing to listen, more understanding , and more generally offered advice beyond you need to do more for women. While you may see us as a monolith of wolves ready to throw other men under a bus for the smallest possibility of it increasing our chances to get laid but in my experience there is a large number of men who are anything but the box you've confined them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:00 AM
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If you would kindly go to my next comment where I clearly explain, I don't believe that it helps men get laid i would appreciate it. Also, even with this context, I'm referring to the thinking of sex being transactional. Which yes. No matter how many times you say men teach this. The first person to tell me i didn't basically have to be a woman's bitch to get laid was a man so that kinda goes against men being the ones teaching boys sex is transactional. But just like my experience doesn't inval…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:47 AM
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I love how you've not only assumed I am red pill but also that I even come close to saying having a father helps get men laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:30 AM
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Is there a redpiller that doesn't place huge importance on attractiveness? Maybe I'm skewed because I've been the fat kid, but to me, maintaining attractiveness is just basic health. To me, when I think about my physique, I don't think about am I attractive. Like right now, I'm a touch over weight and shifted my diet. I'm already going pretty much 20 hours a day, so there isn't much room for anything else except diet changes. But it wasn't that I wanted to be more attractive itbwas just that I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:12 AM
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FML I thought this shit was simple. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:07 AM
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I agree that it doesn't make you a bad person by default to be unhappy with your dating situation. I would venture to say a vast majority of men and women who have wanted to be in a relationship have been unhappy about being romantically unsuccessful, even if only for a short time. I think the issue comes when young men are led to place that anger at the feet of women for it. I think when men start buying into the belief that women are somehow to blame. I also agree with cultural trends and shif…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:00 AM
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I'm not really on either side, but I think you should do good just because that's what you want. If you aren't the type of person to go out of your way to help someone just because it is what it is. Everyone's different. But I don't believe you should be generally nice in the hopes of receiving something. I could understand the point more if it was I'm going above and beyond and women aren't attracted but I can't really agree with expecting something from a base level of niceness that would gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:47 AM
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When you say just be attractive, is that monetarily, physically, or both (I'm assuming both but have to ask to really ask the next questions) and what level if attractiveness? Is there like a standard of attractiveness that is being strived for or is it just to the best of your genetic ability? Hypothetically, someone is successful in his field and makes 6 figures. Goes to some more exclusive places and can pull some women due to his ability to provide. Is that the pinnacle of RedPill as he is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:32 AM
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So red pill is be a decent, healty, sulf sustained person capable of free thought, and all the crazy stuff is just crazy people branching off basically?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:52 PM
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That just seems odd to me because, as I understand, within red pill ideology sex is a sacred act when it comes to relationships. It just seems weirdly hypocritical that the red pill ideology would then rely on the very people it says aren't worth a relationship to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:40 PM
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That just seems interesting for that ideology. It seems inconsistent to me to be perfectly fine being ok in that situation. I think I might understand it more if it was consistent with saying that you morally don't wskt to be with a woman with other partner in a relationship becaise sex is sacred while also being ok having sex outside of the marriage with someone who by those own standards would oppose your beliefs that sex is sacred.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:38 PM
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I wouldn't say taught them but it seems to me they were raised with a much less transactional way of looking at sex. Where as I was raised that I needed to do enough for a woman for her to want to be intimate it seems to me the men I know who were raised with their fathers in the home view sex more as if you like me enough, cool. If not it's whatever. It took me a while to deal with rejction as someone just not being into you and not seeing it as I have failed or didn't do enough in some way whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:31 PM
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Not necessarily a cuck but I've seen a decent amoint of redpill guys say things like they can't be in a woman after another man has been inside of her so I was just curious if that went for hookups or just relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:27 PM
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I wasn't necessarily disagreeing just adding to the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:43 PM
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I'm not saying it doesn't suck and that for a lot of people it isn't a shitty system to be a part of but the only way to change it is forced coupling and I think we can all agree that is morally worse. Even if we could somehow pull it off with cultural change, the people wanting these cultural changes to happen so they can get laid wouldn't even see the cultural changes in their lifetime likely and realistically would never be done. You can't change the direction of human evolution for recreatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:39 PM
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As a man who was raised by a single mom, it was yall( not everyone but for the conversation) that taught us that. It wasn't a man that told me to be nice to women to get laid. That was my mom. She taught me that you were nice, bought women stuff, and listened to what they told you. It wasn't THINKING mothers are saying be nice=get laid. Its mother's telling their son as they leave for a school dance that if he acts like a gentleman, she might be more open to taking our relationship further. Weir…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:33 PM
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That's kinda the whole point. Can you really point at anything and tell me that everyone has an equal chance at winning? You may be able to say, Well ya, there are sports that have riles, so it's equal. But it really isn't. There is going to be someone who trained harder and has better genetics. There is really no such thing as fair. Dating is the same thing. While I understand the frustration with it being portrayed as fair, I don't understand thinking dating should be fair. Why would it be? Ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:27 PM
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That explains why my FO builds are all low charisma. Self reflection lol 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:19 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, as I'm not really versed in all the pill stuff. But doesn't red pill basically say it wojld be wrong that you hooked up with her after you know she was just getting blown out on set?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:17 PM
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Pity you never learned about the development and effect of trauma. Also, I never blamed anyone for what I've become as a man because I'm proud of who I am. Pity you never learned the difference between blaming and explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:13 PM
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No. I just had to learn self-respect to stop being used because my family made sure I had none.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:00 PM
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But cheating is common is not what this is about. Once again it's about you saying cheating is common soninstead of addressing a societal trend and finding a solution we should just ignore the feelings of the partners that were hurt. Lying is wrong and people do it. Should we destigmatize lying and accept it since people do it anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:04 PM
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You have posts promoting polyamory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:51 PM
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So you didn't secure a relationship as a young man. Your looks have gone downhill with age as most people's do. And now you want people to conform to your beliefs that would have allowed you to have sex with a married woman that you chose not to guilt free. Sorry bud but if you were a woman we would call that hitting the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:43 PM
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So with the experience of 2 serious relationships, you have decided that beliefs people have in marriage should be thrown to the wayside so you can hook up with married women? Have you told their husband's about the advances so that you can explain to them that he shouldn't have an issue because women do it anyway? Or is the reason you want it normalized so you don't have to deal with those reprocusisions? Again if you are so attractive married women are making advances with nothing on your part…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:29 PM
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It's relevant bevaise if you're good looking enough to get that attention from women who have to put a relationship on the line for it you should have no issue finding a woman who doesn't have to put a relationship on the line for you. At this point, if you're being truthful about your relationships and the married women approaching you, it seems to me it has to be some sort of decision on your part. And given that conclusion, I can come to no other final conclusion than that you want to destigm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:25 PM
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Ok OP. How hard are you trying to rizz up the married women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:21 PM
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I have nothing to do for a few days as I've had my first days off in a few months so I'm zoned out on reddit 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:20 PM
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My thing here is OPs last post in this group he says he is in his mid to late 20s (I don't remember the specific age) and has had 2 partners. But here he has said he has married women making attempts on him at a high enough rate to form this opinion. If he is attractive enough while doing nothing to attempt to make a move on these married women that they are willing to sacrifice their marriage to make moves on him. Why has he only been able to have 2 relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:16 PM
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Op originally responded by saying he was a landscaper amd muscular and all these physical characteristics. My question is. And I'm not asking this to be a dick. I'm genuinely just asking for the debate. If you have all these positive qualities that are able to attract 39% of the female population (statistics for coupled females by Pew Research). What is your problem attracting the other 61% of females?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:10 PM
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Aren't you overreacting to the importance of shallow coitus if you are willing to risk the breakup of your family and have your partner or yourself go through decades of poverty for it? The issue is you've placed more value on what you call shallow coitis than people's beliefs in the sanctity of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:58 PM
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It's still showing up on the post on my end. But still. If you only used the differences in other countries, I could at least understand your idea as wanting to handle the issues in private how they do in France. But using women approach me to cheat, so we should just let it happen seems disingenuous, and more like you're upset you weren't able to sleep with them more than anything. People murder. Just destigmatize it. Rape happens. Destigmatize it. None of those make sense because we understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:41 PM
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I did. You use that it is handled in private in other countries to support destigmitation. That is not destigmitation. That is cultural difference. Cheating is still stigmatized it is just handled differently. So that point makes no sense as it doesn't even support your title.. You say there is a scarcity of sex among single men however according to Pew Research 36 percent of men between 25 and 55 are in a relationship where as a measly 3 percent more of women are in relationships, so unless you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:37 PM
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But this isn't a debate about whether or not it is happening. It's a debate about whether or not we should change people's entire perception of fidelity within a relationship so that more men can get laid instead of addressing the issue of cheating. Had your post been women cheat on their husband's. It happens. Then I'd agree. But you went further to say that due to your experiences of being approached by married women we should change the fundamental beliefs of many modern relationships excludi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:24 PM
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So we should change people's entire fundamental beliefs of what a relationship is so more dudes can get pussy basically? That sounds more shallow than leaving your partner for cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:18 PM
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I expected mediocrity and have somehow still failed myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:04 PM
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Ya he was a deadbeat ao he wasn't involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:19 PM
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Bio dad bailed when I was born. That actually a crazy ass story. My bio dad was the son of a pastor and was 21 or 22 when I was born. My mom was 16 when I was born. I'm mot sure who's idea it was on that side of the family but they decided my bio couldn't be involved because obviously it's ficking wrong to be with a minor as a grown ass man. They all lived about 3 hours away. My bio dad lived with them for a long time during my childhood and I actually saw him every summer when I went to my gran…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:51 AM
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I haven't seen her in a little over a year. We still talk every once in a while but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:16 AM
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Ya man, it's been a journey. I think the biggest thing that it messed up is I don't remember a single point in my life where I've had confidence or any sense of self-worth .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:15 AM
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Idk. Do you think men enjoy a world where their only father figure is a man who threatens to murder him and a mom who constantly puts them down? It isn't about them telling is exactly what they want it's about destroying young men's confidence and treating them as scum because of their choice to remarry the same abusive pos 3 times. Maybe women would rather live in that world? Basically nothing you said made sense as a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:33 AM
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Damn I wish. I wanted to play football and couldn't becaise it was too violent so I didn't get to play until high-school when my grandpa told my mom that she needed to let me do it. I really didn't have many friends either growing up due to a mix of us pretty much always living so far put of town I never saw anyone and being so socially fucked from some shit. My first sport was wrestling in 6th grade and after my first match my mom called me floppy fish because I struggled trying to get out of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:45 AM
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Her ex husbad was an abusive pos, so I'm sure that had a lot to do with those views. I don't necessarily blame her for having them after what she went through, but it really makes it hard for a young boy to grow up to a man with any level of pride, self confidence or feeling of self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:58 PM
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My former step dad threatened to blow my brains out and slice my throat when I was a young kid. I know I was under 7 because my little sister was born when I was 7 but I really only remember the actual events. My mom left him ( one of 3 divorces from him) and then would sneak him in and screw him in the room that we shared in my grandma's house becaise my grandma let us live with her because he was abusive. I absolutely hate my ex step dad but to this day my mom thinks I'm an asshole for being m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:33 PM
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I got the fun perspective of growing up being raised by my mom and for a decent portion in a house full of women growing up as a male. I was consistently told that's all I needed. Most forms of masculinity were frowned upon. When I was finally able to grow a mustache, I was told to shave because if I started to look too manly, women wouldn't trust me. I was almost constantly told that men are trash who are worthless and lazy. At one point, i even asked if that meant me too, I'm pretty sure I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:00 PM
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I think porn gives a perception of men and women that is an overall negative in finding and maintaining a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:57 PM
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This was after about a month or maybe a bit longer of telling her it was too much and I didn't want to put that on her. It didn't matter. She had to know exactly what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:04 AM
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Thanks. It was definitely a shitty time and only made it take longer to actually get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:31 AM
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Idk I've been told I'm not your therapist by a girl I was in a long term relationship when I cried after my grandpa died. I've been told that 3 times by women. Also the only times I've opened up to a woman. Every one of the times I just wanted someone to listen for a few minutes. Weird you bring up the dad neglecting me because the second time I opened up to a woman was when she asked why I don't talk to my dad. When I told her about the time he held a gun to my head and said he wasn't my dad an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:00 AM
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I told you multiple times that I got multiple other opinions and have never had anyone else complain. Which would presumptive mean they are in fact normal fitting clothes. You can find news outlets running stories on women that this exact thing happened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:14 PM
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Now men can't wear pants without making women uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:08 PM
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Well damn. I guess I'm going into work and sayong push up bras, leggings, crop tops and jeans with ripped thighs make me uncomfortable. Let's see if anyone gives a shit. And yes they are the same. I litterally said in the original comment that they said that my pants were too revealing. I then gave details about how coworkers made explicit comments about my bulge. Explain how that is my pants making them uncomfortable and not them looking at my bulge making them uncomfortable? Crazy how you don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:55 PM
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Ok fine. Let's say your male coworker is looking at your ass in your regular clothing and then tells your boss that your big ass is making him uncomfortable in leggings then the boss should tell you to change your clothes right? By default if my pants are supposedly tight enough around my dick to cause them to be uncomfortable is that not the same as my pants being too tight on my dick? They litterally are the same thing. Based off stuff I never said? Then how do you know about it if I never sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:38 PM
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So if your boss told you your coworkers think your pants are too tight around your butt you'd be fine with it? Keep in mind that you've also said that any pants that fit you are too tight around your ass. So you would wear pants that do not fit you due to your male co-workers' opinions even though anything bigger in your own words doesn't fit?I'm saying the exact same thing. Getting pants in a bigger size at that time did not fit. They were too big.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:26 PM
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The difference is that men have at least put the shoes on to start the walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:43 PM
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I was on a comment thread where a woman was talking about how women shouldn't be forced to wear looser clothing to make males comfortable. In this same thread I shared the story of when I was pulled into the managers office to be told I needed to change because my bulge was making my female co-workers uncomfortable.(average dude, no brag, I genuinely still don't know what these women's problem was.) The same woman saying women shouldn't wear loose clothes told me that was perfectly acceptable an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:03 AM
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Imagine a woman said she was sexually assaulted and a man told her no you weren't until she relived details of something that happened like that. The man would be torn apart for not believing her or for making her relive trauma to believe her. All I'm doing is pointing out a double standard where women are just believed and shown compassion where men are just told how they should have said it earlier and interrogated until they tell a stranger the full story.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:41 AM
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Wait are you legit the same person making comments like now I have to buy different pants to not sexualize myself and saying how dumb it is that women should wear looser clothing to make men feel comftortable? Why should I wear looser clothing that I am uncomfortable in and cam snag my poor fitting material on things while I'm working? You're insanely hypocritical. Fine fuck it let's get into some shit I got told after the boss empowered these women to stare at me and then reprimanded me for it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:09 AM
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Is a complaint litterallt about my penis not sexualizing? Once again these were athletic fit pants. One size up and they fell off my ass so they were not tight at all. They fit nice. Could barely even see my phone in my pocket. The women routinely wore tighter pants. The work policy outlined what was acceptable. This was nit a ma and pa shop that was fly by the wire. I wore tighter pants before I lost weight. Again the company has already decided when they printed thousands of copies of their dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:51 AM
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So if I said a woman wearing a V neck makes me uncomfortable even though work policy allows V necks they should tell the woman she is revealing too much for her male counterparts and needs to change to cover her body right? Let me again remind you. These were not tight fitting pants and I got multiple other opinions. As long as someone of the opposite gender is uncomfortable you shouldn't be able to wear normal fitting pants? Interesting. When a woman wears normal clothes and men stare and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:33 AM
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So wait. Is a man not staring at a woman long enough to see her private areas not a problem in your own words? Would commenting on my bulge not only between each other but to my superiors not be inappropriate sexual remarks. You know, a major part of sexual harrasment? Why is it an issue for a man to stare and see a woman's outline but a woman can not only stare long enough to not only notice but be made uncomfortable by a penis that would make no more of an outline than the average male? With y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:20 AM
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Weird since your entire argument was a personal anecdote about seeing men in tights every day. Why does your personal expirience outweigh mine to the point that actual sexual harassment in the workplace is ignored as meaningless when if inwas a woman who said that people would be asking if I was ok, if I reported it and how I was effected. Good job. You just proved women couldn't care less about men being sexualky harassed or made uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:12 AM
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Obviously, you're not a guy. I've been personally told by females I shouldn't wear pants that I busted my ass and lost over 100lbs as my goal to fit in. I was told I would have to wear something less revealing, and it was making my co-workers ununcomfortable. I'm not some horse. I'm an average ass dude, so don't think I'm thinking some bragging stuff. I know what I am and what I'm not. These pants weren't overly tight. I even got multiple opinions on them. They were legit my first ever pair of n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:08 AM
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I think there will be higher rates of depression and possibly some other mental health problems, especially in a society where one way men are judged socially is their ability to get a woman. I think this could lead to more introverted men and could have deeper societal impact if that does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:02 PM
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I think the difference is that men seem to have a wider range of who they are attracted to. Is it wrong that women are only going after who they are attracted to? No, not at all but that's also going to come with consequenses to the growing amount of men who aren't picked, and it is important to at the very least understand the effects that this has on those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:39 PM
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I completely agree however given how many women are wearing them so tight they look like the fabric is about to split and is basically a body suit I'd assume you also agree that if a man finds skin tight spandex comftortable to wear in public and around children you'd have no issue as it's about comfort not sexuality right? The way you describe as dressing I wouldn't say is provocative, but there are women who wear exactly what you wear in a different way. I think it's clear it isn't about comfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:34 PM
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That is why all of this generalizing is dumb, IMO yes men and women are different, but we all do the same shit, just in slightly different ways. I've been through this, the same as I'm sure there is a woman who probably has a past almost exactly the same. Humans all do shitty, horrible things, and to say one gender does this or another, does this are just deflecting negatives we see on ourselves onto other groups of people we aren't associated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:51 PM
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Is what it is, luckily I've found someone who knows all of this and has supported me through it, it took years to be able to open up because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:08 PM
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I'm not saying this is all women but I dated a girl who constantly asked about my dad because I never talked about him, I told her I didn't want to talk about him, I told her he was abusive and I don't like talking about him. She kept pushing and pushing and pushing and so I told her a few of the "better memories" I have of him,she kept pushing and wanted to know more and ended up telling her about him putting a gun to my head when I was a kid and some of the more wild stuff, I cried like a chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:22 AM
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And most men aren't like how a lot of the comments are saying men are but those comments are still agreed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:12 AM
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With this logic, isn't leaving your house a red flag? You may bump into an attractive single woman at the grocery store. What if you go to the bank and the teller is attractive and you can't control yourself? What if you get pulled over and the cop is so attractive you try and get her number? What if a new woman starts at work and you can't control yourself? These standards you have for a partner are extremely controlling and unfeasible, and you even admit you are hypocritical of your own standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:22 PM
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Isn't that a red flag though? You may see a woman you're attracted to and not be able to control yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:53 PM
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So you don't work or go to the gym while in a relationship, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:56 PM
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So your S/O is not allowed to maintain any friendship with any single man? What about going to work? Gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:38 PM
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Everything can't be biased or cherrypicking. It kinda was my point. Women can say negative trends about men with mostly agreements in the comments and men who say we aren't like that get swarmed and destroyed. If a man makes a post saying women do this, even It is a trend, he gets destroyed, and anyone who even slightly agrees in the comments does too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:35 PM
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Wouldn't that kinda prove my point? If the stuff where the guys are getting destroyed trends but not the other way doesn't that show a double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:02 PM
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I just look at what comes in my feed, nothing specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:29 PM
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And those men get told they are wrong and have hundreds of responses agreeing where when I've seen the reverse scenario where a man says a negative pattern a vast majority of responses ive seen are attacking the poster and anyone who agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:10 PM
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I've noticed on here in particular though it's very common and accepted that men have positive and negative patterns but it seems like women can only have positive patterns and if a negative one is brought up the response is, well not all women are the same or thats just a small percentage of women, we don't all do that, but if it's said a man has a negative pattern it gets agreed with and anyone that says not all men are the same or stop judging us based off the men you met, or that's some men …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:41 AM
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The same argument could be made for men being sexual with other men. In ancient Greece it was a socialized behavior and therefore was historically common. All it takes is a little culture and media promoting. Don't get me wrong I agree men deal with dysmorphia, I deal with it myself sexually, it's hard as fuck and does come from trauma from a woman, it took years to realize its litterally impossible that I "have the smallest dick in the world", it does need to change and there does need to be pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:06 PM
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So you're ultimate goal is you want a woman who will screw you even if they don't necessarily want to, men don't have to be protectors or providers, don't have to be attractive, and still get laid? Isn't this the exact thing you're complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:44 PM
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First I am a man and usually am on here defending guys this is just so stupid I can't. You think so lowly of women you'd rather convince them to be a hole for a guy than ask a man to do the same. If yall can want women to give it up easier just so you can get laid why can't you ask a guy to pit his pride aside and do something mutually bennificial? The only hypocrisy here I see is someone willing to ask someone to do something they don't want to do while also not wanting to do something you don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:27 PM
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Why does that change how the exact same action is described? A man dumped his cup A dumb bitch spilled her drink If the second one is being used to describe a woman I think most people would agree it's wrong but why is it ok to have the same type of descriptive shift when talking about sex? Why is it ok to have different standards because of a body part when half the posts and comments on here are talking about we can't put women on a pedestal. If you're going to use that argument all the guys c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:02 PM
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You'd rather convince people they should pity fuck dudes than help a brother out. Why is it only one gender that has to compromise? I'll agree with everything you said as long as these same guys saying this would be willing to take one for the team and let their bro finish just like they are expecting women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:57 PM
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That's all coil as long as you'll work one out fir your boy to help the primal urge. If you want women to change to help men get laid why won't men change? Oh they aren't gay so it's different right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:20 PM
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There's a major difference between trying to change someone's personal sexual decisions and what I'm assuming what you're implying. In this case my opinion is that men who can't get laid should just turn gay and help each other out since we're ok suggesting people change their personal sexual choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:46 AM
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Isn't it weird how differently how we describe 2 people doing the same thing in such different ways. Pump and dump is almost more of a joke or dumb saying that has humor to it but when it's a different gender it's a hoe getting fucked. Not arguing or anything, just an interesting difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:59 AM
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Maybe all the sex is a need guys should get together and give the booty up then. You can't control what people want no matter how unfair it is. If everyone who said sex is a need, just let their bro get it in, and they would have access to an outlet and could have sex. The only thing stopping this are people's standards and morals, but no one should have a problem putting those aside to fulfill a primal urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:04 AM
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Maybe the guys who don't think they can control themselves and are talking about retribution on women should start giving up the booty for the good of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:59 AM
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I dont agree, but at least you're consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:15 PM
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If we're using historic norms, then me saying a woman's job is to have kids, cook, and clean should have no argument, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:20 PM
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Ya I've tried the whole you're not much better than me approach, she got to call me a fatass in front of her friends and it was cool but when I said she's not much more in shape than I am I had dudes threatening to beat my ass and a bunch of girls screaming that I'm a misogynist. I don't expect it to be this was but it makes a man second guess himself when he can be called a fatass by women that are overweight themselves and see them agreed with and told it's just standards but if I respond with…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:43 PM
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So your comparison is 2 rich, famous people? The average fat man doesn't have millions of dollars to blow to get these women. It isn't desperation when you tell a girl hey, I like your shoes, and her response is eww no don't even try it fatass. Not saying only women do it, it goes both ways but to pretend fat dudes that get rejected is just cause they don't have game or don't try or even have a decent personality when litterally told it's because you're fat is a strawman argument at its best and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:16 PM
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What I don't agree on is a lot of the studies I've seen were based off of the standard HxW BMI which is extremely inaccurate and typically doesn't account for body type or muscle mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:24 AM
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Coming from a formerly fat man, women have just as much to say about fat men as men have to say about fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:22 AM
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Oh ya absolutely no way ot hold up in court k was just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:08 PM
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Not arguing but just asking, if a man says from the beginning I am not mature enough to have a child, I don't want a kid, should he be responsible if the woman gives birth knowing this? No clear mutual agreement just the knowledge that this person does not want to have a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:17 PM
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Woah bud no need to get defensive, I'm responding to you saying I must have liked the hot ones and I'm assuming by that your using traditional standards and so I am replying that I in fact was not trying to date out of my league or going for only the hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:40 PM
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But then we get told oh it's your personality that matters, it's nit all about looks, crazy how they knew me when I was fat and it didn't matter till I was in shape. Some of these girls were probably about as big as me and legit told me I was fat when they rejected me but when I was in shape they got upset when I said I didn't want to be with them after they rejected me harshly for my size. Not that there wasn't a decent amount that were nice about it but I heard eww no you're fat so damn much a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:19 PM
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Not being a dick but some of these girls weighed about the same as I did but told me I was ugly or fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:16 PM
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Both sides want the super hot partner, women I believe are just actually realistic because it might happen where, as I believe, with guys, you're more limited by your looks, money, or social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:04 PM
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Until 18 I was fat, even the nerdy girls called me a fatass and rejected me. Hit the gym, dropped to 180, suddenly the same girls thought it was so cute that I was nerdy and played D&D
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:01 PM
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As a fellow nerd and male in my experience the nerdy girls usually rejected me and wanted the hot popular dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:35 PM
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I mean a main FOX News host said on live TV he would have died to be in a situation like that after a teacher was accused of unlawful intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:30 AM
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In the hypothetical scenario, I think the impact would be vastly different based on location. Not that women can't do these jobs but I believe in the U.S., U.K., overall most first world countries and countries with extremely limited women's rights the short term impact would be a lot harder because women don't tend to do these jobs/ aren't allowed to so they aren't trained to do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:50 PM
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He has sex with her and talks to her, so I guess they never need to do anything else for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:44 PM
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For real, not arguing I just think it's funny the comment said work when there's usually policies against that, women in general I've heard talk about how uncomfortable it is to be approached at work and it's generally advised against to shit where you eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:03 AM
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You're telling me that first off, you were typing coherently before you talked? That sounds more like a developmental issue than an average problem, no offense but if you were able to functionally form sentences and type them but were unable to speak at the age of 6 thats not something the average person deals with and seems more like some sort of speech impediment or devolopmental stunt. And secondly that online communication has absolutely no influence on in person communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:21 PM
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I would more so agree with your point if I didn't see so many of these same people eloquently communicating online or seeing them able to speak their viewpoints in a clear and cohesive way. I don't think it's a problem with social skills necessarily I think it's a fear of face to face interactions because it's easier to accept being rejected online than in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:15 PM
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Again that's the point. I didn't know her long enough to move in, not even close but she decided she wanted to amd I was deemed an AH for not accepting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:29 AM
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And vice versa is more often true that someone is fit and good looking when young and let themselves go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:51 PM
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If you're going to use a high value older man in your comparison you'd also have to use a high value younger man not compare a high value older man to an average younger man, that's like me saying is a woman going to prefer a 22 year old proffesional athlete or an average 55 year old based off looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:26 PM
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This guy is really going to say the average 40 year old is superior in looks to a 20 year old? Half the 40 year old guys I see are balding and wearing jeans shorts with a t shirt tucked in and the beer belly hanging down, id agree If he said a percentage of older men are better than younger men but that percentage is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:29 PM
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That's my point, it wasn't any of those, I asked her point blank if it was any of that and she said she didn't have to because her mom paid for everything. The reason I asked is because she randomly asked if she could move in and I asked her if she would be contributing, she said she would clean but not cook because she didn't like it, I said I'm sorry but I don't think that's equal, she asked what would be equal and I said if she got a job and contributed and helped equally around the house so …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:07 PM
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Honestly I feel like as a male if I put remotely close to what you said I'd be called shallow. I'm not saying it's wrong but I've been told I'm shallow and heartless for not wanting to date a woman who didn't have a job and hadn't worked in over a year and said it was because she didn't have to. I just personally have never been in a situation where I was able to hold any type of standard and not been vilified for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:39 PM
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My question would be in addition to humor how many, if any of the traits in OPs post are also a requirement for compatibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:35 AM
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Lol no I asked out of curiosity for supporting for or against my thoughts I couldn't care less about her personal life or decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:33 PM
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Oh I'm not arguing your relationship preferences honestly I don't care, it's your life. I'm only staging I believe that generally men would be more giving on what would be a lack of compatibility but that also may change if roles were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:40 PM
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IMO golf is about as much of a sport as video games, come on 80 year old dudes with barely any life left play golf. If someone spends a few hours on the course they are less manly because my opinion on golf correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:38 PM
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So how does someone deciding they like to do something more than something else make them more masculine? I have a hobby of restoring cars, when I get get gome from my job as a diesel mechanic I'll play video games, heck sometimes I even play 3 hours on a Friday night, am less masculine? Using that logic if you have a TV, tablet , computer, couch, recliner or bed in your house you are inherently less of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:36 PM
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Personally I believe that men actively looking for a relationship wouldn't have as hard of a time if roles were reversed because I believe men will have a shorter list of things that make someone incompatible for a long term relationship but that could completely flip idk
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:29 PM
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I'd be interested about what you consider lack of compatibility. Initially I'd disagree and say that I believe men would be more giving on what constitutes lack of compatibility if they were seeking a long term relationship but yours seem pretty normal and I'm curious to what other ones would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:27 PM
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Why just with video games? I'm sure your son has hobbies he does for more than 2 hours, is it the time frame or is it just that you view people who can play video games more than an alloted period of time as lazy slobs? If this was the hobby being idk golf would you have the same response?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:15 PM
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What does the first sentence of your original comment say? You are saying video games strip someone will to be a man yhus emasculating am entire group of people who play video games as a hobby. Edit; you say it gives a false sense of achievement stripping someone's will to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:09 PM
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I'm not arguing that I'm arguing against the demasculstion of someone because of a hobby. You didn't start by saying if you're in a room playing COD all day go touch some grass cause I agree with that, you said it isn't a real hobby and then continued to generally compare anyone who plays video games against your son who you even presented as more masculine. If you had said what you said here I 100% agree, tun off the console, touch grass but I don't agree with the rest of the macho is you play …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:59 PM
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By litteral definition video games are a hobby. an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure. A hobby by definition is not meant to give a sense of achievement it is meant to give joy which can be tied into achievement so it having no real life achievement has no bearing on its validity as a hobby. There are even recent studies that seem to suggest playing video games as a child, yes including video games can improve spacial recognition, logical reasoning and perception. Obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:53 PM
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No I'm making a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:08 AM
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Only guys I've seen use those words in real life turned beta real quick when an alpha showed up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:13 PM
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I've been trolling the last like 4 replies I'm surprised it took this long.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:56 PM
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Wow dismissive and disagreeable how feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:50 PM
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Where are they forcing conversations? Are you not being feminine by not expressing how you feel and holding it against them? With how you describe women it seems very feminine to A. Be allowed to be forced into a conversation you don't want to B. It seems pretty feminine to internalize being forced Into a conversation and hold judge all women based on that. Seems pretty feminine to let someone else especially someone you believe you are superior to force you into a conversation. Are you not doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:13 PM
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But I think you're handling your emotions wrong so by your logic I am superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:44 PM
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Again you're saying yall like you have some checkmate thinking I'm female, I'm not. Second what you're describing isn't a difference in male or female emotions you're describing emotion management. Personally I don't believe you're thoughts are very rational and I feel like you're talking in circles does that now mean I am more masculine and therefore more superior to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:16 PM
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Emotions aren't female, weak men who can't handle them make them female.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:59 AM
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Well yes if women do most of the child raising by default most felons will be mostly raised by women, that's a straw man argument at best. You're so fixated on what's measurable and tangible yet when anything measurable or tangible is brought up you say it's not the same thing. You'll say well thats species survival, yes species survival is the most necessary part of society. I saw you said we could just force sex as in the past and I challenge that we've had a much greater sociological, technol…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:04 AM
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When men stop calling women sluts, whores and many other insults and stop raping maybe women will stop saying men are trash. That's not really my viewpoint but see how generalizations can sway a conversation completely wrongly even though either generalization accurately reflects either gender. Infrastructure is ultimately dependant on women because typically women do a majority of raising young children which develops and solidifies knowledge, health and many positive tendencies, if men attempt…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:59 PM
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I think your example of women tending to ruminate only proves the point that the 2 are equally important in other ways. Men are capable of it however we tend to be much more closed off and fixated on a fix rather than a true solution where in my opinion women tend to be much more open but aren't fixated on the fix and aren't satisfied until there is a solution. My view is that men and women are symbiotic in all forms of society and depend on each other. It's pointless arguing who does more or wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:44 PM
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I believe that to an extent however I believe giving birth, being the primary parent to usually take teaching responsibilities, women's seemingly natural tendency to be better at caring for others and a better ability to communicate emotions alone lead to a better society in general and have near if not equal contribution to the maintaining and proliferation of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:32 PM
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You can give a broad viewpoint of OPs post without being a pretentious ah about it and fixating on points.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:16 PM
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While I agree I also don't agree with the tit for tat approach of well we can do this so see men aren't better. There's things that men will be predominatly better therefore superior at and there will be things women will be better therefore more superior at, there's things some people can do and some can't and they may depend somewhat on gender, why can't it just be both sides have things they are better at that make them unique and important to survival and society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:14 PM
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The points don't matter bud you having any opinion besides disagreeing and then saying I'm misunderstanding would be appreciated though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:11 PM
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I dont need point for point just any actual stance, opinion or thought that isn't seemingly purposely vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:02 PM
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Again I'm not fighting I'm saying if you don't want your viewpoints assumed make them clear, you had multiple responses to make any other view besides agreeing with op known yet you chose to remain vague. I'm not going to go out of my way to coerse you into a conversation you are already engaging in but are making the choice not to clearly voice your viewpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:57 PM
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I engaged, you responded with a counter viewpoint which appeared to agree with op and made no attempt to discern that you did not agree with op. Again you are not a child, it's not up to me to ask for your viewpoint when you are actively expressing your viewpoint and actively disagreeing with every point I make thus again Implying you agree with OP wholly and had no points of agreement with me. If you want to be heard speak up. I made my view clear therefore if you want to engage in conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:50 PM
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At no point did you take any other stance than asking what part of it was wrong, if you want to be understood it's on you to make your stance clear not on me to ask the right questions to know your stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:46 PM
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You asked which part was controversial giving the impression you either thought OP was only making the point that there are differences or that you agreed fully with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:23 PM
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But that isn't the statement op made. OP made the statement men are inherently BETTER than women not societal importance, physical strength, both of which are a subject that a conversation can be had about however OPs entire post is subjective by saying men are BETTER than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:02 PM
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Superior in strength or a specific skill is much different than the blunt and blanket statement of men are better than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:47 PM
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I'm a man bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:34 PM
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I tried to read it to give it a fair chance but I really just can't get behind the male superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:24 PM
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It's hard to take an opportunity when the person you'd rely on for support looks at you like you're a pos if you b4ing it up or if you're seeing other men who take the opportunity called lazy, hear people talk about how they aren't men if they are SAHD. I'm not saying it's some huge conspiracy against men I'm just saying there may be societal and relationship pressures that make it hard for a man to just decide to be a SAHD that you may not be taking into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:30 AM
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My personal thoughts, men would love to be stay at home dads and get to spend time with their kid. Personally I would absolutely love staying home with my daughter because I've already had to miss things but the look I get from my wife every time I say it would be cool and the way people talk about how men who are SAHD are lazy and all that crap I feel like I can't do that. My wife was a SAHM for over a year, and she got told how strong and amazing she was for taking care of our daughter and eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:46 AM
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I. Didn't. Say. That. I litterally said I have never not women do none of these things. Stop putting words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:27 PM
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No that's the argument you're making by using masculine in a way that makes it to where in order to be masculine you need to act a very specific way indicated by the question of what should a strong man do, you are the one implying there is a very defined way to be masculine which is one that has been relatively the same for hundreds if not thousands of years. By suggesting there is one reaction that makes someone a man or not is to conform to the definition of masculinity we have kept ourselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:09 PM
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That's why the comment I responded to wasn't talking about statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:28 AM
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It isn't when the standard for masculinity is still so strongly tied to what a man historically was. You don't get to pick and choose that a man needs to be masculine then say the past is left field when masculinity is based off the history of men. In modern times there isn't one way a strong man would respond to the same situation unless your idea of masculinity is soley tied to historical masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:14 AM
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I'm 26, married, I've never once been taken on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:19 AM
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Ya it was. Again it's reddit though so I'm not going to pretend it's completely accurate to the real world. I generally don't believe anyone really has any responsibility to the opposite gender in day to day life but I personally believe that the situations men are expected to be responsible end more easily and frequently end with them dead or injured.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:57 AM
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Historically a mentally strong masculine man would grab her, drag her to his house and she wouldn't really have a choice. The idea of a mentally strong modern man is so new and constantly shifting half the people are stuck on the alpha terminology that they haven't even taken the time to realize goes against wolf hierarchy but think they are badass cause wolves are alpha and the other half is dudes trying to get laid until they finally meet someone to fuck them. Let's be honest most of RP isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:48 AM
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I think that logic only works on reddit in real life I don't quite think so. While I don't believe men are this amazing protector and all that i do think society does hold some level of responsibility towards women. Heck even here on reddit the other day a guy said he didn't work as a writer but when the female waiters didn't want to deal with rowdy guys anymore they threw him to it, he said he didn't wasn't doing it so a female ended up doing it, the male said he was uncomfortable and didn't fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 09:42 AM
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I think its more that if someone has 10, 15, 20 bad experiences people on reddit aren't going to change anything and as much as I would like to pretend in real life women (men also but since this is the topic) women have these same values and are as compassionate and understanding but it's, at least in my experience isn't true. If I woman says your short so that makes you un-datable irl things on the internet aren't really going to counter that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:01 AM
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What would change about pregnancy and giving birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:51 PM
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Outside of birthing I think the same arguments can be made for the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:32 PM
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That'd make sense if she didn't tell her friends she rejected me cause I was too short then told them I said she was too tall and I got attacked like I was meat in a tank of pirranahs being told how horrible I am for thinking her height made her unattractive and on and on
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:10 PM
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Makes sense, I never understood it because personally being somewhat taller my preference is for what most guys would consider taller/bigger women so maybe it's just that I don't have that infatuation with height that it's hard to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:09 PM
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Lol ya must be a lie since it didn't happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:14 PM
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I've been told it to my face after a girl publicly said eww your too short to get a chance with me, I said we'll turns out you're a little too tall sorry for asking, I was told I'm a POS, pig, asshole, don't deserve to be with anyone, girl was told that's right girl we don't lower our standards for nothing. Few days later girl sends me a message and says you look good it's just so unattractive when a man is only 6 foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:00 AM
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Those guys are probably thinking the same thing, shoot your shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:35 AM
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5"8' is average height for men in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:33 AM
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I'm 6" 0, I've been told I'm too short and told "you ain't man enough little boy 6' 2" or taller to ride" it is what it is just pointing out it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:32 AM
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I'm also curious because average height for adult males in the U.S. is between 5' 8" and 5' 9"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:26 AM
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IMO the major difference is that a woman can say I prefer taller guys and be told get it girl, keep those standards, don't settle where as in my experience if I guy says I prefer a shorter girl he's a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:22 AM
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I think my biggest problem is most red people I meet are either in a relationship where they don't follow a majority of what red pill teaches so it seems like it doesn't work in reality or they seem to be single guys who complain about every possible thing besides them being part of the problem and completely overestimate their value. Most of the stuff I've seen seems to be I'm not hot, I don't have a 6 pack, my dicks not huge, cool same here but somehow I've managed to have a decent dating life…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:35 AM
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I dont see any issue with waiting. If that's what you want, then go for it. If you're doing that and saying we can go right up to the line with making out, groping, and all that, you're just setting yourself up for failure. I would personally think if you're going with this approach it should be were just friends and well talk for a few months and if it happens it happens where what you're saying to me seems almost like hey we can be friends with benifits but up to a point and if we decide to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:47 PM
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It makes sense to me in that way amd I completely understand why people sleep around, I don't think it's weird or wrong or anything just for some reason back when I was still single if I hooked up I felt almost instant regret and it wasn't like the woman did anything wrong or anything happened or was wrong with her it just felt wrong, even club's and thong like that, I don't have any issues with strippers, sex workers and see nothing wrong with it but I'd never go but I know people who are compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:06 PM
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To me it just really seems like if you take away the labels and time frames and just talk to someone, get to know them and then decide if you want to have sex with them and continue to the next step of a relationship you'll get the same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:00 PM
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I'm really interested in why some people have the desire and ability to sleep around with multiple people at the same time. Not saying there's anything wrong with it I just think it's really interesting because I'm a 26 year old male and have never really wanted to sleep around, obviously I've had sexual desires and all that but it's always been in a way of being with 1 person in a relationship and not one night stands. Even at times where I've had hook ups it's not really even satisfying amd is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:53 PM
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So basically you're whole point is having friends then. If there's no exclusivity, you aren't having sex, you're learning about each other to see if you like each other, what you're suggesting as dating advice in my opinion is what other people call having a friendship and then moving to the next level if appropriate. You don't have to have labels and time frames to do this you just go out and meet people and get to know them and don't sleep with them it's not some profound dating procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:47 PM
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I've tried but it's hard when I say this stuff then she gets on here on the relationship subs and they end up basically telling her oh well of I was with you I'd do all that without complaining, I'd work 15 hours a day without a word, all this shit or she's getting dms talking about how I'm misogynistic cause I said it would be nice if she could make dinner because by the time I'm home and showered it's almost 7. She basically thinks it's normal and since her post are always guts saying it's nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:12 PM
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I understand she does a lot at home taking care of our daughter but it seems like I feel like a pos if I can't spend time with my kid, wife, work, deal with my own stuff, help clean, do anything needed with vehicles, help with shopping like idk it seems like she will do things but no matter how tired I am or anything she'll wait until I get out of work to go grocery shopping a lot and it'll be I can go with her and help or keep our daughter till she gets back then I can shower and nit be covered…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:12 PM
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I think its a logical point and I think the links for the self reporting of time are interesting. I think it's very interesting because in my relationship my wife is very comfortable telling me I need to cook or clean or do something I missed because she doesn't want to do it or because she doesn't think I do it enough, I try my best but typically I'm gone from 6 am to 6pm, get home, take a shower and try to clean up and spend time with her and our daughter. I asked her one time to help me chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:34 AM
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So marriage is necessity because you can get alimony and can take your partner off life support. Seems fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:25 PM
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We are discussing it because I said more info helps and you went off the deep end. This thread isn't on me bud I said more info would help and you went in. I'd also like to know how alimony is a safety net for the child when it explicitly is not for that? If someone has life insurance they don't have to be married to put their BM on the life insurance so that argument makes no sense. I don't see why such a big point in this is medical decisions? That has nothing to do with any part of OP or your…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:39 PM
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You should probably re read what I said because I never even said the points you're arguing against. I said I've seen about as many married men leave as boyfriends step up not at any time did I make the claim that you are saying I did. Using your same logic we can look at the numerous women in marriages with deadbeats who don't help with their kids, how's that working out for them? Edit; the only claim I made was from personal experience and saying data would help support this point you created …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:45 PM
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Exactly by using love as a currency they've made unconditional love absolutely impossible in their argument. If you're to a point in a relationship where love is viewed as an exchange instead of a constant you should leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:41 PM
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So your entire argument is basically my life experiences and opinions mean more so I don't need stats. Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:24 PM
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I've seen just as many married men leave their families as short term BFs step up to be amazing dad's so I believe data would be an important part to making a claim like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:27 AM
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Your post says that however even on Google I don't see what really even looks like a reputable study with those statistics and a majority look somewhat similar on percentages. In my own personal experience I've seen as many short term BFs step up and be amazing dad's as I've seen married men abandon their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:08 AM
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Marriage doesn't change that. If a dudes gonna be a deadbeat he's gonna be a deadbeat regardless. If you're married or not you can go for child support and if you're married or not he can decide not to show up to visitation or nit to fight for any custody. Only thing marriage changes if it's being used as a defence to keep a guy around is make it harder to get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:05 AM
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In my personal experience I think that marriage is used more as a tool for control than security. It could easily just be a bias from the people I'm around but I've seen more examples of women pushing marriage off than women who want to get married not being proposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:02 AM
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I was engaged to my now wife when we had our first kid, I was trying to get married before we had our kid and she decided it was waiting. I think it goes both ways there's just more preassure on the man to make the wedding happen. I was gettong told that I needed to marry her already and being told I wasn't a man caise I hadn't locked it up yet even though I had proposed and was trying to plan a wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:49 AM
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I'm at a 11% BMI, imo I've been in good shape only thing I've got left to lose is some extra skin from being fat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:18 AM
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At least for me this mindset started because I had only ever been dumped or rejected or anything baser on physical attributes so I never thought it was enough and let to some body dysmorphia. I have no idea how true this is in the big picture but at least for me it was I was being told I was too fat at 180 and 6ft with a larger frame so there weren't many healthy options for changing that besides gaining more muscle mass then at that point it just became an obsession because it seemed like for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:38 AM
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Bro no this us too much. Have some self respect and move on, you don't need to win her back, you didn't even have her in the first place to win back. Take the L, hit the gym and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:05 PM
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Nothing, there is nothing either side can realistically do besides let things naturally run their course, no group on reddit or anything is going to change much and in my opinion women being more promiscuous would be a direct result of oppressed rights. The only thing that can really be done is communication to lessen the divide in a way but I don't see any mass change coming soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:39 PM
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Well seeing as you're comment is entirely on response to things I didn't say I'll try I don't have a response for you. At no point did I even make a mention of women doing enough or not enough I said the thinking of this person doesn't care so I don't care leads to more division as the comment I responded to made the assumption men in general do not listen to women's problems so women don't need to listen to men's, I even included no one is wrong or right to emphasize that I was not making the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:04 AM
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I'm not going to say all but I've seen a decent amount of people saying they are men who seem to taking in women's viewpoints and experiences, just like there are a decent amount of women who listen to men's problems and understand but not all. I at no point said your comment is sowing division I said that type of thinking can lead to division.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:00 AM
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That thinking just leads to a cycle of blame and worse understanding. This to me is like saying I don't care you're hurt because you don't care I'm hurt, no one's wrong or right but it definitly won't get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:44 PM
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I think that's a different thing. OPs post seems to be insinuating the premise is men looking for women and vise versa so all of the women's options in the males messaging her are potential suitors and they filter based off of standards and preferences where as in your scenario it seems op would be getting on grindr knowing none of the people will likely be suitors. Not agreeing either way I just dont believe this is an accurate comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:40 PM
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Then I completely disagree with your original point with talking with hands. I see no way that this would show any lack of masculinity and I've even seen studies showing that it projects power (I'll look and link here if I find them but I'm not invested enough to look that hard). I would agree to your point of tics showing weakness to an extent, it's something were going to pick up because it's a coping mechanism that would naturally give the hint of weakness, however that's all it is at most a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:13 AM
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So you are saying your original point was incorrect and now saying the presence of tics shows a lack of masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:57 AM
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Because what you're saying is thinks like swinging your arms for no reason etc are talking with your hands, it's not, talking with your hands is what you're describing that leaders do, using your hands for descriptive or emphatic purposes. What you're describing as weak would be a nervous tic and would not he considered talking with your hands because there is no intended purpose where as if you are talking g with your hands there is communicative purpose. It isn't that people are disingenuous i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:50 AM
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Then you litterally aren't talking about talking with your hands you're talking about nervous tics people have in social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:16 AM
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If you're comparing being pump and dumped for women to the friend zone for men then you are in essence agreeing that hooking up with a girl to pump and dump is ok. Guys get put in the friend zone every day, get the old I wish I could find someone like you and no one bats an eye or says hey that's not right. So if that's the comparison you believe is equal then explain how it could be wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:05 PM
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I dont get the first one, I'd say I'm average in everything from looks to job status and I've never had problems dating. A majority of my friends are about the same in looks and job status in my opinion and haven't had problems dating, I just don't understand where all these guys that can't find someone are or if they are even looking outside a very select few women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:05 PM
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This is all cool but when it comes down to it If an older woman gets with a younger man she's called a cougar, if an older man gets with a younger woman he's called a creep. Not going against anything you're saying just pointing out a difference I've noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:09 PM
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It's weird to me to even go to a strip club and I've never been, not because i have anything against women working there or sex work in general I just dont get wanting to go look at women that are only letting you look at them because they are being payed. Idk just doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:46 PM
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