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| 2 | How has limerence affected you?This would have been the case likely even if she had not gone out with him and been locked in a convent. Younger people are more inclined towards intense and obsessive crushes. For most people that tendency stops from the early 20s onwards (or often before). It's not about having been 'spoiled' or even being jaded, it's about neurological development. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/21 02:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Some ideas of modern day feminism are more damaging than anything else.You're going to pull that card? Want a source that water is wet too? Well, yeah, because "The vast majority of feminists think that all men have always had the vote" is a pretty specific and outlandish claim, that is in no way reflected in the reality that I have seen my entire life. I believe you believe it's 'really obviously true', but I don't believe that it's actually true. It was the sacrifice of millions of men that bought us freedom and won us (among other things) the vote. But I mean, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 08:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Some ideas of modern day feminism are more damaging than anything else.Yes, most feminists do. Source? while doing none of the actual work You're going on and on about the hardship and the work, without saying which hardships and work you mean? Because women and men have always both experienced hardship and driven for change. We're talking about feminism, then we are talking about the social sciences. Modern feminism and the historical revisionism that has followed is directly attributable to the social sciences. If we're talking about history, surely we're talking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 06:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Some ideas of modern day feminism are more damaging than anything else.So don't play this ridiculous feminist notion that men have always had these rights. This is exactly what I mean when I'm talking about misrepresentation. No one is pretending that ALL men have always had the right since democracy became a thing. You said 'affluent women were able to vote before men who weren't affluent'. That is simply untrue. It was the other way around - as you're now saying, average - but not poor - women received the right to vote 34 years after average men, which was the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromsees it as a punishment then deciding to walk away, you're ok with that I mean, I would be OK with that. Because it sounds like this man sees the world as if he were a toddler (other people's actions being motivated by a desire to impact him rather than their own desires having a secondary impact on him). Him walking away is probably the best outcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 01:58 PM |
| 3 | "I don't wanna live in a man's world anymore" - Marina's new single release: discussionI just... many women work far more than 40 hours a week, especially if you add up both paid work and domestic (so even women that work part time and have kids will generally be going well over 40 hours in total). I work more than 40 hours a week in just my paid job (and then do half the household stuff) and that is before kids. Which is, like, normal. The idea that 'women' somehow as a group would be shocked and horrified to put 40 hours of work into keeping things afloat so the world would stop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 01:34 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Some ideas of modern day feminism are more damaging than anything else.Also the debate over women's voting rights was a little more complicated than initially presented. Men had only gotten the right to vote not much earlier. For most of history it was rich/affluent/land owners/lords/ladies that voted (and that very much included rich/affluent women). This depends on where you're talking about, obviously. Most of your post seems to refer to suffrage in the UK, where the above was not the case. Affluent women over 30 and all men over 21 were included in the 1918 Rep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 01:00 PM |
| 1 | "I don't wanna live in a man's world anymore" - Marina's new single release: discussionTrue to feminist form, you go right to the apex fallacy. Men have NOT had privilege over women. The top 1% of men have privilege over women. The comments on this OP as a whole are peak "PPD really doesn't understand what the apex fallacy is" material. "The world has CEOS/billionaire land owners/Harvey Weinstein, rich white housewives and working men who aren't rich. These are the only categories that exist. APEX FALLACY!!!!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 11:21 AM |
| 3 | "I don't wanna live in a man's world anymore" - Marina's new single release: discussionBut if men and women are legally equal, how are men more oppressed? Surely either 'its about the legal side, the rest is window dressing on the actual rights which are the same', in which case men are not oppressed, or 'you need to take into account social pressures and treatment based on beliefs/stereotypes outside of basic legal reality' - in which case you can't pull the whole "But legally they're equal and so anything else would be benefits..." schtick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 11:14 AM |
| 2 | "I don't wanna live in a man's world anymore" - Marina's new single release: discussionI mean, it's cute that you think working 40 hours a week is going to be an increase to the women you're talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/20 11:09 AM |
| 2 | If it's "unethical" to not commit after implying you're interested in doing so, them it's "unethical" to not have sex after implying you're doing so. Which would be absurd. So both are ethical.No one is entitled to sex. But women who promise sex in order to get what they want are not looked upon favourably. I don't know if you've actually managed to convince yourself that a few think pieces on how you're never 'owed' sex constitute a cultural understanding that women can behave however the fuck they want and not be thought negatively for it, or if you still don't understand the difference between pretending your going to do something for profit and changing your mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 04:54 PM |
| 4 | If it's "unethical" to not commit after implying you're interested in doing so, them it's "unethical" to not have sex after implying you're doing so. Which would be absurd. So both are ethical.No, you see it wrong, he doesn't want to commit (which you are absolutely NOT entitled to being entitled to in the 1st place) to YOU, because he simply doesn't feeeel it with YOU. He tried and you failed. It wasn't actually an example from my life. It was a hypothetical I made up in order to illustrate what someone else was saying. But thanks for letting me know the imaginary person whose sole purpose in being imagined was 'example of lying person' wasn't lying, I suppose? Or are you saying that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 01:19 PM |
| 6 | If it's "unethical" to not commit after implying you're interested in doing so, them it's "unethical" to not have sex after implying you're doing so. Which would be absurd. So both are ethical.I mean... yeah. You can lie and cheat and steal your way through life all while appearing an innocent party, if you're really good at faking it. It seems like people on here are often looking for ways to objectively judge the motivation behind the behaviour of others, that you can 'rely upon' ('ok not awalt but enough are so I can make statements like...') enough to never be caught out. But that isn't really the way the world works, is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 01:06 PM |
| 25 | If it's "unethical" to not commit after implying you're interested in doing so, them it's "unethical" to not have sex after implying you're doing so. Which would be absurd. So both are ethical.Nope - u/NarniaFox is absolutely correct, and that is what the 'mainstream opinion' is and always has been. To explain it with alternative examples: Let's say I am dating a man, and that man already knows he has no intention of committing to any sort of relationship. He then acts like he does, as he knows it will make women more likely to sleep with him. This is deceitful and harmful to people - people will not like this man. Now let's say I am dating a man, and he is open to the idea of commitm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/20 08:52 AM |
| 1 | Do you have friends from the opposite sex? What's the experience like?I've had/have plenty of male friends. 1) Not because they're dudes. Its nice being friends with people I find I share common ground with. No sense to limit it to one gender. But they 'benefit' me in the same way I suppose? 2) A couple have, in the past. How I reacted depended on the nature of the friendship and what kind of advances. 3) I've had male friends I was attracted to - generally I was attracted to them at the beginning and then that faded as I moved past it. Most of them no, though. 4)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/20 01:49 PM |
| 2 | Why is female insecurity so ignored and overlooked in the social and dating debate?Who'd give them a help? The very same doctors and therapists that help women? I've nothing but sympathy for men who are struggling with their mental health and feel stigma because of it. The expectation that men have to seem strong at all times is very real. Its not a fucking competition, and I don't really care who you think does or doesn't 'have it worse'. BUT actually the incorrect assumption you're peddling is really harmful to men. If you tell men who are already feeling desperate and hopel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/20 02:50 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: What makes some people better at getting casual sex than others?Based on the men I've seen get lots of casual sex: Yes, looks. Yes, confidence. But also - projecting 'I am fun, and I'm looking for someone to have fun with rather than a conquest'. At the end of the day, women who are up for a bit of casual sex are going to go for someone it seems is also up for some casual sex, but more importantly, is also looking to have some fun casual sex. Being a notch on a bedpost is boring and lame. Being there to have some with someone for a few hours is not boring an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/20 02:30 PM |
| 4 | Has an unsolicited dick pick ever gotten you laid?Ding ding ding. This is clearly what it is. This isn't the first thread on here I've seen with the 'but it must work because otherwise people wouldn't do it...'. As if all things people feel driven to do sexually are about a detached and reasoned drive to increase the outcome of PIV sex. Dirty phone calls, flashing, etc. - we all get that guys get off on the idea of a woman being made to think about their dick. Why are we then like "This man has sent an unsolicited picture of his penis to a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/20 08:02 AM |
| 2 | Parents spend way more money on female children than male.The fact that you so easily dismiss a HUGE investment gap between girls and guys is very telling. 35.000 dollars is an absolutely ridiculous amount of money that's being used to improve a girl's life quality while men get jack shit. But the link you gave suggested that at least 11 grand is being spent on 'toiletries' - so one assumes that means make up, hair dye, face wipes, whatever. To what extent are those things 'improving her quality of life' above and beyond that of say her brother? She is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/20 04:47 PM |
| 1 | "Evo psych" is badly used by redpillers to rationalize their preexistings beliefs.Read above in same post.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/20 07:46 AM |
| 5 | For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like?As someone with ADHD, I am more than aware of the varying difficulties people will have fitting into the 'nature of school' being linear and quiet etc. I personally found it impossible and didn't understand how I could try so hard to 'fit in' and yet still get blamed for not doing. It is a lot of why I do what I do, because of what I learned from my own experiences. To be honest, I've seen the idea that 'girls and boys learn differently, treat boys like x and girls like y' do much more harm than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 06:25 PM |
| 4 | For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like?The thing is, I don't think it's something you can really 'teach', "This is how you get girls/boys". And to be honest... not really appropriate for a teacher to be advising teenagers on how to get get a date. Honestly, I think the best thing you can do is try and help them grow their self-respect and self-confidence (through academic and otherwise means). Help them see how respecting others, and conducting yourself with dignity/being someone worthy of respect are all tied together. Some kids are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 06:06 PM |
| 10 | For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like?Say you’re dealing with a car salesman versus getting an instruction from your boss, you’re not supposed to act the same way. Kids get that. You'd be surprised, with some. They seem... not to get that. Which obviously means we have to teach them, because otherwise they'll lose out in life. I’m sure boys can understand that they’re supposed to be good team members and be respectful in a school setting, without giving them the idea that they have to be beta to girls. But I mean... why would they t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 05:46 PM |
| 11 | For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like?But I mean, as a teacher of girls and boys (teenagers)... what EXACTLY are you suggesting? Because it seems like if I reprimand girls for being disrespectful towards me and towards each other, and inconsiderate of each other, which I do... shouldn't I also do this for boys? What, should I just let them not do their work and treat their classmates like shit, fail or their exams and never get a job because they're now a dickhead who can't handle authority, because thats what 'alpha men do' or some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 04:11 PM |
| 5 | For Those Who Think Women "Should Care About Men's Dating Struggles", What Would That Look Like?Ugly men do not treat ugly women badly I mean... sometimes they do? Not always. But sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 03:56 PM |
| 2 | "Evo psych" is badly used by redpillers to rationalize their preexistings beliefs."What works on one women will work on all" "It doesn't work with x" "When I said all, I didn't mean all, I meant basically always so it makes sense to do it, its a heuristic and shit" "Do you actually know it works better on all than... basically anything else a sane person would think might work?" "There are studies such as... [posts some studies that could means 1000 different things]." "Those studies don't support it though because [points out issue]" "Look I don't care about stuff like that,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/20 05:08 AM |
| 10 | Do you feel under much pressure from society to get married and have children?35 plus is the age when you're considered 'higher risk' of chromosomal defect, before that apparently not. But also they can screen for them pretty thoroughly without going through invasive procedures like amnio testing these days (through ultrasound measuring and a basic blood test I was assessed as lower than 1/3000 risk). So... The .. "odd one out" effect. I don't think its that so much as just people saying shit like "OMG WHY HAVEN'T YOU HAD KIDS YET, TICK TOCK" all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 08:23 PM |
| 12 | Do you feel under much pressure from society to get married and have children?Luckily for me I dont plan on having kids so it doesnt matter when I meet my partner, but still, it must be stressful as fuck when you hit your 30s and are still childless, if you do want them. I mean, as someone who is 34 and having my first... it is mainly because people tell you that you should be stressed, but then actually you shouldn't be really? The vast majority of people who can have kids ever can have kids in their early to mid 30s, at least. The majority people who are infertile at 33… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 06:06 PM |
| 0 | The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it.Most men were either tradesmen, farmers, factory workers or soldiers, women were excluded from being soldiers or farmers because it made sense, they were free to do other jobs. But women were always factory and farm workers? Even if they weren't in the 'very heavy shit lifting' role, they were still in the 'gruelling physical labour' roles? LOTS of women were killed by factory equipment during the industrial revolution. Actually, children (male and female - didn't really matter) were the ones wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/20 01:45 PM |
| 2 | What’s the truth about personality in dating/in general? Are some better than others?1) Extroverted people in general tend to be more up for more social suff, and are therefore often seen as 'more fun'. But you can be introverted and fun, introverted and more socially capable than extroverted people. For 2 and 3 - for all the people here who read a chapter about the statistics around personality traits and think they're now an expert on the human condition, the actual answer to these is clearly "There is no universal agreement on this". "Introvert" and "extrovert" mean different… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/20 04:30 AM |
| 5 | Why do so many women now have children outside of marriage? Does it matter?But in my post I said that its about playing to strengths rather than expecting one person to do everything because reasons? Plus you said that men work and take care of a family. So actually your reply makes no sense? Like, why should my husband work more hours and do a more stressful job that makes him miserable because he is the 'specialised breadwinner'? It doesn't make any sense? Who wants to be at work every hour of the day? Don't you want some balance to your life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/20 06:06 PM |
| 5 | Why do so many women now have children outside of marriage? Does it matter?I think the entire point of the post above is that in many couples the man doesn't Work full time, and still take care of family They do the working, but not the taking care/domestic work. Personally, in my household it is shared pretty equally (we play to our strengths and preferences though - I do most of the cooking while he does most of the cleaning), though currently he is doing more because I'm pregnant and exhausted, plus my commute is longer. Pretty sure that is what the feminists wanted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/20 05:51 PM |
| 4 | Why do so many women now have children outside of marriage? Does it matter?This is the majority of 'unwed mothers' I know/have known. In long term relationships/cohabiting and just don't see the point of getting married or are ideologically against the idea of marriage. And/or have then got married to the baby's father further down the line. I got married last year and then started trying for a baby, after being together for like 7 years. But we considered not getting married first - because weddings are a hassle to organise (neither of us is exactly the party planning… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/20 05:42 PM |
| 3 | What do women really think about MGTOW? Should society care?Indeed. Gotta group reinforce that shit or else reality might start to creep back in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/20 11:02 AM |
| 1 | Are we moving to a situation where many men don't feel as if they have a stake in society anymore?It just seems like if you need a constant source of female emotional validation and dependency in order to not fall into an existential death spiral, you were already on pretty shaky ground? I don't really know what 'stake in society' you're after? I mean, its your society as well. You live in it. As much as it is mine. People seem to mainly just interact with each other a bit but for the most part ignore each other as they go about trying to survive? It just seems like.... I don't know, if you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/20 03:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV: All men are misogynists. Read the full text before posting.The book "Down Girl" by Kate Manne puts forward a model and definition of misogyny along similar lines as the one you're working along here. Takes a logical (analytical philosophy approach) stab at "What and why actually is misogyny". (Essentially - men feel reliant on women for comfort, support and yes sex as well. Men feel that women not providing this is an existential threat. Therefore they have to 'police' women choosing not to be about providing this - blue hair and shouty yada yada - and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/20 09:15 AM |
| 11 | Women have baby fever. Myth or reality?Thanks. It's obviously something that is on my mind a lot at the moment. People on here (many of whom, lets face it, don't really like women) seems to see the "lifestyle change" (referred to in the OP) as meaning "can't go out for mimosa brunch with my girlfriends and the club". You know - can't be a wild party animal if you have kids, gotta settle down, can't be the high flying designer stilettos career woman as easily. But it's far, FAR above and beyond crass stereotypes - it's the existential… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 09:23 AM |
| 40 | Women have baby fever. Myth or reality?They seem it view it as more of a parasite; something that is going to hinder them from enjoying their lifestyle. This is kind of true, though. And I say this as a currently on-purpose-pregnant and happy about it person. Most women who were unsure about having kids I've known seem to have eventually decided they're up for it. Some not. But, I mean, you don't have to have kids so makes sense? I think women on the whole are primed by those around them to be a lot more realistic about what having k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/20 04:49 AM |
| 3 | Blue pillers - why do you claim the red pill is "junk science" but you never have credible science yourself?"Anti-redpill" people are constantly calling the red pill "junk science" and bragging about how "pro science" they are themselves. Yet, I've never seen them post credible sources for their own beliefs. But I mean, you it is junk science to pretend science 'supports your theory' when you have no real theory. Personally, when I'm rolling my eyes at terpers 'doing a science post', its because they've got a couple of studies that show one thing, and then they do a load of convoluted nonsense and end… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/20 03:41 PM |
| 3 | Blue pillers - why do you claim the red pill is "junk science" but you never have credible science yourself?Its a specific theory about observable human behavior. It isn't though, is it? Its a hodgepodge of sort-of-theories with an overall theme of 'assume women = bad' mixed with old school self-help narratives. This is the problem whenever 'red pill' people talk about 'the science'. They pull together a load of unrelated, some vaguely meaningful and some incredibly dubious, research papers and then make some serious reasoning... leaps to "and this means we should assume x/y/z about women/dating as a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/20 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Living a bluepilled life of ignorance is better than living with the harsh reality of RedPill truthsGetting hurt is shit, but unfortunately is a part of putting yourself out there. People can be callous and wrapped up in their own shit, but then also people can be caring and thoughtful. There is no real reason to believe there is any gendered rule about that, particularly. You can believe what you want to believe, I can tell you I don't think it will help, but I don't know you. But at the end of the day - it isn't 'the truth'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/20 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Living a bluepilled life of ignorance is better than living with the harsh reality of RedPill truthsWould a life of gleeful ignorance be preferable to a life of Red Pill truths? Honestly? Its become clear to me more recently why Red Pill guys believe in it. It's because it's the comfortable lie. Easier to insist women are making advanced market value breeding judgements and all that talk about liking people on other levels is a lie. Easier to always expect a woman will leave you 'because hypergamy' than to emotionally commit and maybe get hurt. Easier to believe women don't feel, and to convin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/20 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What would your feelings be about a guy who ignored you until you lost weight?Would you feel like you were the winner because they suddenly paid you attention? No. Some dudes who I don't like having some interest in fucking me does not make me 'the winner'. But what about the group of guys who initially acted like you were invisible at best and called you "shemue the whale" at worst (if not worst still)? I'd think those guys were assholes. I don't see how getting their sexual attention would give me power over them - they've made clear that they police women with hate and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/20 07:40 AM |
| 0 | If women are innately more valuable, then why are male gender roles considered to be more important and necessary than traditional female gender roles?Seriously, how in denial of reality are you to write out such blatant contradictions over and over without seeing the overlap? How do you admit bricks are red yet say its bullshit to call them red? I'll spell it out for ya, OK? Women have done, and continue to do, all the things that he listed as being done by men. This shows that women are capable of these things, and do these things. Most men don't further society. Most men sit on their ass complaining about shit, consume what society gives th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 04:17 PM |
| 1 | If women are innately more valuable, then why are male gender roles considered to be more important and necessary than traditional female gender roles?Ah yes, the classic best faith argument. It's not 'an argument' because none needs to be made against your nonsense. Everything in my city could have been built by men while I ate bon bons, you'd still be full of shit. Because all the things you listed are done by women. Not really, like literally open your eyes and look around lmao. Sounds like you do, bud. Sounds like that rather than looking around you, you'd rather stew in a fantasy about what is actually happening out there to make yourself… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 03:51 PM |
| 1 | If women are innately more valuable, then why are male gender roles considered to be more important and necessary than traditional female gender roles?This is literal nonsense. Again. More shit in my home was built by me than it was my husband. I've known female plumbers and electricians. I'm gonna need more than traditionally male coded jobs being construction related and 'we didn't used to let women do shit' to buy a "But men are the gender that creates and maintains society"... poorly constructed philosophical argument? Pretty pathetic level of shit to base your ego on, to be honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 03:31 PM |
| 3 | If women are innately more valuable, then why are male gender roles considered to be more important and necessary than traditional female gender roles?Oh, so nonsense then. Gotcha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 01:36 PM |
| 5 | If women are innately more valuable, then why are male gender roles considered to be more important and necessary than traditional female gender roles?Men are able to earn more value, which is precisely why male gender roles are more important. But why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/20 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Do you mind if you're lover is bigger/same size and stronger than you?I personally wouldn't care. The thing is in my experience women do care. Personally, I've had the opposite experience. I couldn't give a shit, but some men I've dated seem really bothered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/20 07:18 AM |
| 4 | What issues do you think modern women are facing?Maybe if you found something productive to do, you wouldn't feel the need to expend all your energy on irrational fever dream whipping yourself up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 08:27 PM |
| 9 | What issues do you think modern women are facing?Chiefly being just another cog to be ignored. I think the big difference between women and men is - women learn that they are this from the get go, and men for whatever reason don't come to learn until they're adults. And then they go off on this big hate-rage spiral about it. Like, I recognise that if there is a problem in the world, if I or other people need something, unless I and others go around actually trying to do something about it, it will never change. Don't ask, don't get. But for so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/20 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Women don't NEED to be successful, funny or interesting to be a valuable partner. That's the difference.It's an ego/identity thing, I think. "My thing is that I'm funny." I've found it happens less with women - on account of the fact that people don't call them 'funny' to be nice, they call them 'pretty' to be nice. So 'funny women' are more likely to be genuinely quite funny people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 07:21 PM |
| 2 | The ‘Dating Market’ Is Getting WorseBut you can quite easily argue that economic models are not the most accurate descriptor and predictor of socio-sexual behaviour in human beings. It fits to some degree, absolutely. But not particularly well, or well enough to stubbornly hold it in the face of contradictory information, as some people on her do. The number of people with a clear bias for 'I like this model because I can protect my feelings with it' arguing that others have a bias when they suggest that maybe it doesn't fit... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 05:11 PM |
| 7 | Women don't NEED to be successful, funny or interesting to be a valuable partner. That's the difference.But it’s weird that some guys can’t get that maybe women want to be appreciated too, as something other than a pleasant generic female place-holder. And it is especially strange to see some men here openly praising themselves for not appreciating or respecting anything about their partner in return (beyond temporary looks and being appreciative of him), as though being an unsupportive, dismissive, and ungrateful partner is somehow a something to brag about. This comment wins PPD. Eloquently put. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 04:34 PM |
| 9 | Women don't NEED to be successful, funny or interesting to be a valuable partner. That's the difference.The weird thing to 'most women aren't funny' is... most men aren't funny? Most men who think they're funny aren't funny? I've encountered multiple men who have got to the point of actually attempting stand-up, and you feel bad for politely pretending to be amused by their tired, pedestrian and uninspiring attempts at 'humour' for years out of politeness. But I mean, the majority of male stand-ups are pretty shit, so they'll probably fit right in... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/20 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Unplugging from purple pill"I'm with this girl who I clearly (with or without good reason, who knows) suspect is cheating on me to the point I'm considering asking to look through her phone. I would like to have her as a fuck buddy, and have decided to share with strangers on the internet that I could fuck girls with hotter bodies. I have zero interest in what she is like as a person, as evidenced by not even mentioning that aspect of her in my screed about her being raped and having a sexy face. I would like to kid mysel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/20 08:33 AM |
| 5 | Your thoughts on the This American Life episode 220: Testosterone (link it text)No, that is pretty normal for all of us. Only lower than average T men or gay men think more about expressing interest in women through talking. How The Body Actually Works PSA: Hormones are more complicated than someone who has higher levels of a hormone being 'more affected by it', and someone who has lower levels being 'less affected by it'. People's bodies/brains also have different levels of sensitivity to hormones, and this will impact their hormone production, which will impact sensitivit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?If I came across feminists doing that, I'd mock them. But I haven't, so... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/20 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?it becomes their defining trait Are you questioning who it is who makes 'incels' defining trait not getting laid? I'm pretty sure that a good half of the thing that frustrates people about them is their need to make not-fucking the entirety of their identity and being. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 06:58 PM |
| 5 | Marriage Statistics in Japan: Average Age of Couples Continues to RiseHey, PPD! Have you ever considered that corporate slave and trad-con housewife (whose husband must be a corporate slave who doesn't care about family, but that logic) aren't actually the only two possible lives a woman could have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 05:52 PM |
| 0 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?It's clearly not misogynistic, it's a statement of fact? It's not generally because internet forums told them their irrational bitterness blaming women for their misery was a valid reason to kill babies, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?I mean, they do though... I have sympathy for people who have problems finding partners. I don't mock people because of that. I mock people who pull others into groups based around pulling themselves down and talking about women like they're chattel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 04:16 PM |
| 3 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?One of these is a word used by white slave owners to describe people explicitly considered below them, and was later reclaimed by black people to destroy its power over them. The other is what people in internet misogynists who don't have sex have been calling themselves for less than a decade. That is not quite the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?TRP referring to dating women as 'spinning plates' - like, keeping women on the go for sex, doing what you need to do to 'keep them spinning'. So a woman you're involved with is 'a plate'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:19 PM |
| 4 | The destruction of the family: Is it really so bad?you'll be eligible for prenatal care and other government benefits As someone currently using NHS pre-natal care that is completely independent of my or my partners income... Your country is fucking weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?When a man calls a woman 'a dog' because she isn't sexually attractive, that is quite dehumanising. But thats, again, an explicit insult. It's not the same. Referring to women as a monolithic 'females' or referring to your girlfriend as 'a plate', etc. are dehumanising but couched in an idea of neutrality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 03:12 PM |
| 8 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?Oh, so it was reading comprehension then.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 02:56 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: How would you respond in this situation?Woman: Your significant other politely asks you to make them a sandwich and bring them a drink. You are not hungry or thirsty. How do you respond? (Assuming in this situation he isn't mad busy - but in that case, he'd probably wait for me to offer, knowing I would.) I'd assume he was joking. I am neither a waitress or his mother. I don't make sandwiches on request. (To be honest, even if I was his mother, say if he was a teenager - if I'd randomly asked my mother to make me a sandwich as a teena… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 02:49 PM |
| 5 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?Except he is confusing 'general dehumanising terminology for groups' with 'gendered insults'. So he isn't pointing out double standards, he is either a troll or a moron. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 02:37 PM |
| -2 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?"Incel" is a self descriptor of people on the internet who make an identity out of not getting laid. It was originally coined by a woman. They have 'communities' and sometimes go on murder sprees. It isn't synonymous with 'ugly person'. This isn't just 'what words mean according to current TRP fashions', this is what 'incel' means to society as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 02:36 PM |
| 16 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?I 'answered it' as clearly as possible. Its a loaded question, which means there isn't a yes/no answer. That's why it is called a logical fallacy. But it's not? If you actually read the OP: It says The Red Pill and 'the manosphere is strategy to manipulate women into sex, much of it openly so ("oh you see women do the same so its ok..." or whatever nonsense or just not caring about it - whatever, its a thing). Then postulates that the language used is related to that. Even if it isn't just aimed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 01:42 PM |
| 6 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?Incel was very much what they called/call themselves. Its an insult because the 'Incels' are so fucking awful and pathetic for reasons above and beyond their virginity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 01:36 PM |
| 2 | Does the language you use to describe women dehumanise them?And he/she in the response is politely saying "Is your response to be obtuse on purpose, or are you actually just an idiot?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 01:34 PM |
| 9 | Women constantly try to water down the meaning of cc riding?Men quite good at building things or being good at logic Clearly not.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/20 11:04 AM |
| 2 | A big cause of the general hostility between the genders is that women want to marry people who are better than them but still wish to be treated as an equal.I mean, its clear from what I said that I don't select for 'uber competitive masculine fitness' myself, and I'm actually going to question but... Why is hanging the laundry, or cleaning the shower, a feminine thing? It's just always funny "Not into cleaning the house...". Very, very few people actually enjoy cleaning. You do it because you have to. My partner is the one with the high standards who wants to clean more, as people like to make out women are, but he doesn't like cleaning. None of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/20 06:14 AM |
| 2 | A big cause of the general hostility between the genders is that women want to marry people who are better than them but still wish to be treated as an equal.Everyone has read articles stating that women are still not treated as equals by their husbands, how they still do a majority of the housework etc. Just to be clear, the issue is that when women work equal amounts, they still tend to do the majority of the childcare and housework. Similarly everyone has also read articles about the dearth of marriageable men for women Where? I haven't. Are these in, like, Cosmo or something? Surely it should be about hours worked, and tiredness etc., rather than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Why are many women still so interested in marriage?It doesn't 'destroy' anything. Its the classic PPD "Men are like this and women are like this" "But [example that contradicts]" "No you fool! OBVIOUSLY there are exceptions I made it seem like I assume there aren't, I meant basically all" "But [shows that its not just a few exceptions, its a massive thing]" "No you fool! OBVIOUSLY I didn't mean just rare exceptions, I just mean its better to think like that, even though it means you're wrong." "Why?" "Because it is. Everyone says it is so that m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Why are many women still so interested in marriage?But again, that's exactly what you are saying, "my husband is like this, so all men are like this". No, you're saying that. No me. You. Rational people don't say "all men want" and "all women want". People on here talk like this, other people know and anecdote is an anecdote. I'm going to let you in on a little secret: TV adverts and movies try to build an expectation that some people do buy into, to sell people stuff. They aren't real life. Adverts tell women they need to spend 8 thousand on ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Why are many women still so interested in marriage?Like how people around here say women's sexual drive is reactionary People on here talk a lot of unscientific made up shit. I've met 'groomzillas'. I never dreamed about my wedding - I'd entertained it might be a nice idea to have my family and friends at a place if I ever got married, but I always hated the idea of everyone looking at me. The big thing I'm going to put in italics because no one here seems to get it: That is not unusual, an exception, the odd outlier. I've been to multiple weddi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Why are many women still so interested in marriage?"well my husband is like this so all men are like this, and no matter what you say, my husband is like this because he is right here and telling me this is what he thinks, and because HE thinks like this, then all men think like this" Get out of here with this bullshit. It was an anecdote to show how real life, as opposed to ranting PPD nonsense, actually works. If I thought all men thought that, I'd have said all men thought that. Outside these echo chambers, people don't make sweeping statemen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/20 05:47 AM |
| 1 | Why are many women still so interested in marriage?A mixture of: 1) He asked, why not? (We'd already decided we wanted to spend our lives together.) 2) Some legal protections that would not otherwise be had (he earns around the same as me now, but in a few years I will likely earn significantly more than him - then at the same time, if at the moment he left me holding the baby, I'd be pretty much fucked. Neither of us simply 'stands to win/lose' necessarily, in either circumstance of staying together or divorce). 3) Some social recognition of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/20 08:19 PM |
| 1 | Why are many women still so interested in marriage?Neither I now my husband 'dreamed' of our wedding or being a bride/groom. BUT when it came to it, and he was asked what he wanted, his mind went to weddings he'd been to since he was a kid, and things he liked about the idea of having loads of family there/elements of the celebration/etc. Same with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/20 08:14 PM |
| 3 | Why are many women still so interested in marriage?Men do not have a biological 'baby cravings.' Some women don't really seem to either? Why would that mean that they don't 'want kids' though? Like, I don't have a biological craving to have a garden with an oak tree in it, but I think it would be nice to have a garden with an oak tree in it. One guy in particular I know, I watched pester his wife for almost a decade "baby now, baby now, baby now". I don't think it's because his 'hormonal urges made him'. I think it's because he'd always idealise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/20 08:10 PM |
| 6 | Women create the nice guys they despise.Hot take: Men and women can both be manipulative. Neither sex/gender has some magical douchebag sensor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/20 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?hard evidence of this either way I love your complete nonsense use of 'hard evidence'. "Having analysed the statistical likelihood that Freud's attitude towards sexual assault was an issue, one is directed to accept the hypothesis that Women Are Cunts". Please leave the science to the grownups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 07:07 AM |
| 2 | Why is AWALT portrayed as an inevitability?I see this analogy a lot, but I don't think its a particularly good one. Because first of all, 'situations where there is a lot at stake'? Like what? Because the situations you'd be talking about are presumably "When in a complete stranger's home" or "Walking down at road alone at 1am". But even say in the latter, if there is a man walking behind me, its still really the situation you're thinking about. Its not 'treat this man as a rapist' in the sense you're really thinking about the nature of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/20 07:00 AM |
| 7 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?No, it was a catch all term to medicalise women who either did stuff that wasn't approved of (basically anything involving having thoughts, opinions or creativity) or were miserable about having shit lives they had no say in. It wasn't really anything to do with sexual repression, though I mean... people of that era were pretty sexually repressed in general. When asked what treatment they best felt helped their 'hysteria' women tended to go for the orgasms, for obvious reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 04:11 PM |
| 8 | Q4ALL: Do you guys think men naturally on a biological level are more prone to loneliness?They used to hispitalize women for hysteria and cured them with a vibrator You know 'hysteria' isn't actually a medical condition and the use of a vibrator isn't actually 'a cure' for it, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 04:00 PM |
| 5 | Where are the women worth all the effort expected of men?Yeah. I do know. That is my point. People think that those who say shit like "Women are all dumb, with the make-ups and their facebooks" sound like dim witted children. I know this because I have lived in the world for over 30 years and interact with actually intelligent people. You may not believe me, but as you are a random dude on the internet who seems a bit dumb, I'm not inclined to take that opinion overly seriously, compared to the other evidence I have. I'm just letting you know how you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 10:51 AM |
| 4 | Why is AWALT portrayed as an inevitability?You don't operate in the outside world as if exceptions are true I mean... yes, you do. The way that human beings form concepts takes into account complexity and lack of universality. People make what are essentially risk assessments and probability judgements all the time based on a working conceptual understanding that exceptions must be taken into account. Like, when I'm driving a car, I am unlikely to have an accident on any one trip. But I will know its dumb to drive my car without insuranc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 10:35 AM |
| 6 | Where are the women worth all the effort expected of men?As I said - I'm sorry, but I don't think you're going to be able to attract an intelligent woman, as you are coming across as a bit dumb. Harsh truth but maybe you need to hear it? You come across like someone who can't handle the complexity of life so likes to jump on soundbite bandwagons. As I said - most of us have met a few. Not interesting enough so constantly having to cover for it - interesting and intelligent people can generally handle complex thought and ideas well enough to see others… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 10:20 AM |
| 6 | Where are the women worth all the effort expected of men?I want a man that can do that as well. But, to be frank, the men who say things like 'Women are just into their shoppings and their instagrams' are... kind of dim. I've met a handful over the years. They are, without at least any exception I've come across, kind of unawares and slow on the uptake. Which isn't really surprising when you think about it (if you have a very dim and uninterested view on one aspect of the world, that is likely to extend to others). Its that... very narrow world view (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/20 09:26 AM |
| 3 | If you’re in a relationship, is it important for your partner to post about you?Being a woman doesn't mean you have to care about social media stuff. Source: Am woman. Don't care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 05:59 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Boys need to be socialized to be neutral towards women collectivelyIf men were raised to know that women aren't infallible and deserve to be treated equally we wouldn't even need The Red Pill because men would internalize their behaviors objectively instead of a default idealistic standard. Women literally grow up with to polar antithesis of this. I don't understand what you mean by this? Do you mean that women are taught not to make allowances for boys/men and to be see themselves as responsible for their wellbeing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 08:50 AM |
| 14 | To what degree do you prefer your partner take the lead in your relationship?He gets annoyed when I outsource decisions like "where do you want to go?" to him. And vice versa - because it's kind of lazy. I don't even know what it would look like if we didn't have equal 'lead'. Every relationship I've been in has been like that. Obviously we might defer to each other's knowledge - I'm better at more technical things and have more 'general knowledge' about a lot of things, so I might make a call about whether something can be fixed (he'd always just throw things out becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 08:37 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Boys need to be socialized to be neutral towards women collectivelyI have never taken an external examination which wasn't anonymised. All my university examinations were anonymised. Why apparently the US is so behind on this, I don't know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 08:26 AM |
| -1 | CMV: Boys need to be socialized to be neutral towards women collectivelyThat sounds great! The caveat that seems hard for men to accept is that you don't get to be the 'default' anymore, or the leader. Have to prove themselves with their actions. But if you're there... thats wonderful! Personally, I'd LOVE anonymous grading. There are just as much research suggesting women lose out due to bias grading as men, so seems like a good idea for everyone! I think biases like giving boys 'more leeway' in behaviour etc. will be harder to combat outside just grading tests/pap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/20 08:25 AM |
| 3 | If all men were 6'3, 225lb, and handsome, would women still believe in egalitarianism/feminism?But I'm going to go ahead and assume your entire ego/self isn't about getting your dick wet? Especially if you ARE getting some, or not doing the classic incel/trp-er thing of embittered obsession. Like, you get how it's possible to have attention from someone you consider attractive and not therefore be entirely satisfied with yourself and life? Like, I could have an attractive husband, and get pregnant by accident (maybe after I was done having kids, maybe we were struggling financially, I wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 05:09 PM |
| 7 | If all men were 6'3, 225lb, and handsome, would women still believe in egalitarianism/feminism?I only really think about the guys I'm trying to fuck when I'm trying to fuck them. Women have all sorts of thoughts/feelings/worries/beliefs/desires regarding their 'selves', their lives and their bodies that aren't about being able to fuck attractive men. Men do as well I believe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 04:54 PM |
| 3 | If all men were 6'3, 225lb, and handsome, would women still believe in egalitarianism/feminism?I feel like most women only have gripes with short, unassertive, unmasculine, balding, kind of guys. Just because apparently think that all women's gripes/interests/beliefs/wishes are about whether or not they want to fuck you, doesn't make this true. You clearly feel that way - that doesn't make it a fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 04:46 PM |
| 1 | What's the most fulfilling thing for you guys outside of all this human relation shenanigans?Woodworking has always really appealed to me. It just seems so meditative - both my grandads used to do it (well, they'd make anything, not just wood). I'm in the same boat though - live in a pokey little flat. Our small eating table in the living room is also my desk, literally zero storage space to keep things (every time we own something new its a whole hassle of where it could go). I just don't see how I could do it right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/20 06:34 AM |
| 2 | What's the most fulfilling thing for you guys outside of all this human relation shenanigans?I'm a science teacher, so when I'm working, my job is pretty fulfilling. I really enjoy working with kids in general (I really like teenagers, which many find odd - they're so overdramatic). Want to get into art again as well, when I go on maternity leave (which will obviously also be hopefully fulfilling...). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/20 06:28 AM |
| 1 | Do you ever think of the possibility what your kids might look like when thinking about having children with a man?I've been trying to imagine a cross between myself and my husband, what our baby is going to look like (7 months away, at the moment it apparently looks like a raspberry sized alien). But I just imagine a vague worst possibility of what a cross between us would look like. I remember my mother saying that she used to do the exact same thing, and was pleased and surprised I came out looking like a normal-attractive human. So... probably just bad imagination. The thing is, while attractive people t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/20 06:08 AM |
| 3 | What would a Utopia look like?The desire for superiority is in human nature. The issue of modern egalitarianism is that it assumes too much good of humanity. It is natural psychology to want, on an individual and group level, to be superior. Counterpoint - this is incorrect. It isn't actually supported by scientific evidence. Actual psychological research tends to suggest that human beings are more collaborative than most think, and less willing to take from others than most think. We compete when we have to, and for fun in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 06:51 PM |
| 13 | 35+ year old single unmarried women who want to get married: What's your plan?Whut? I'm married. I like being married. But if I hadn't met someone I wanted to marry, I wouldn't have wanted to 'get married' for its own sake. It's nice to share your life with someone, but that does involve compromise. Personally I would be OK not being married, as well, if that was how my life had worked out. OC's life plan sounds nice. You don't want what comes standard with marriage, so you don't really want marriage in total. You want a fantasy man who will give you everything and demand… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 07:33 AM |
| 0 | Is "Thousand Cock Stare" real, a joke, or something that some men are imagining/making up?You're acting like this person should 'debate' you. There is nothing to debate. You made something up and wrote it down. You have zero evidence or rational behind what you're saying, which just sounds like a fantasy you dreamed up. This is not discourse. I can literally just say 'You're wrong". 'Rebuttals' can just be "No. None of this is a thing that happens". Kids these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 07:24 AM |
| 3 | Is "Thousand Cock Stare" real, a joke, or something that some men are imagining/making up?This is not cancel culture. Disagreeing with someone is not silencing them. Calling something bad/wrong is not cancelling it. This shit is why people can't take 'cancel culture' seriously. Makes it come across as crybabies trying to dismiss anyone who criticises things they like, because their ego can't handle the possibility of being wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/20 07:18 AM |
| 2 | Can young men even be classed as creepy (without doing something creepy)?I've had guys I'm not attracted to ask me those kinds of questions before - its small talk. Never creepy. I'm just there thinking of ways to get out of the conversation. You guys need to get over this nonsense that creepiness is a response to the affections of ugly men. Flattery or annoyance are the response to the affections of ugly men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:38 AM |
| 2 | Can young men even be classed as creepy (without doing something creepy)?But then there are other behaviors that might creep someone out, like simply being unappealing looking. When I think of something being 'creepy looking', I think of the Pale Man monster from Pan's Labyrinth and stuff like that. I have never, once in my life, found an 'unappealing looking' person creepy. I have never, in my 34 years on this planet, heard another woman refer to an unattractive man as 'creepy' unless they were staring at them/following them/etc. I have heard many attractive men ref… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 09:33 AM |
| 1 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?They’re much, much, MUCH quicker to blame the external rather than the internal. If a man makes a mistake - even if the fault lay with someone else, it is the the cultural expectation is that he not bitch or complain, just take responsibility for the negative outcome, learn from it, and move on. I disagree. Strongly. Actually, I think it's the opposite. I think men are sort of told this "You are the full citizen, the future of civilisation belongs to you", and then when actually they realise tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 06:55 AM |
| 5 | Female Matchmaker stops trying to help women match with men because women (according to her) have "unrealistic standards for men, dating marriage". Lets discuss.I think that your perception of both the video and 'the situation' in general is clearly very biased. You have been very open about that, in fact. Even with that said, this woman admits to sleeping around with fuckboys in her youth before locking down mr. dependenable, so there's still some visceral disgust from me when she talks about that If you feel 'visceral disgust' at the idea of a woman making different dating choices when she is younger, you are not approaching this rationally. Its ok to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/20 06:16 AM |
| 4 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.There are few times when it's a good idea to stop women in what they're doing, when they're doing something, and ask them out. Yes. Is this news? Personally, I just go ahead and assume most people going about their day to day lives would find me stopping them and grabbing their attention to be rude and disruptive. Social spaces? Yeah its fine, as long as you're upfront (aka don't follow people around staring at them). The other thread where someone was all "How do women select for men.." was tel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:35 AM |
| 10 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Its for the attention. As in, at that moment, making her pay attention to you. Showing you can make her pay attention to you. The idea that its about dating is such laughably bullshit that it is what makes me wonder how much of the world around them they've paid attention to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 11:30 AM |
| 3 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?To what? I broke it down to your two points and responded separately, but deleted what I started to write. Because you've put "Women 'choose' assholes and are responsible for that" (for the man being an asshole? for their own suffering? what about all the women taken in by 'nice guys' who are actually assholes? responsible for not being psychic? who are they hurting but themselves? why are you so angry about it anyway? - I never get answers to these questions when this comes up). Then you've put… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 08:15 AM |
| 3 | What do you think men are talking about when we question women’s view on personal responsibility/accountability?Honestly? I see rants about how women don't understand what taking personal responsibility, being held accountable, is like. About how we don't have to fight to take control and ownership of our own lives, to get to a place we can have a modicum of happiness. That we expect our bad choices to have no impact on us. Unlike men. And... well, I have little time for people who have a hate stewed fantasy version of what my life/the lives of women are like. It someone is saying that they feel irrelevan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:28 AM |
| 2 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.I sometimes worry about things that might mean I'm a bad person. I sometimes worry that I'm not doing things right. I sometimes worry that people hate me. I sometimes worry that I'm a destructive force in the universe. I sometimes worry that I'm a bad wife/mother/daughter/friend. I sometimes get stressed and down when there seems to be no clear way 'not to do that'. Its called being neurotic. Many times I've had to consciously make myself accept that there is no 'safe' action that will make me n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:11 AM |
| 7 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Honestly... I wouldn't ask someone out at work. I've had men I was into in workplaces, and it never even occurred to me that I should ever flirt/make an approach. Because I was scared of being known as "that girl who is out to get some" colleague, or the way that it might make our working relationship awkward (you can at least try and avoid socially connected people you ask out, not so much with colleagues you actively need to converse with in order to work). Or yes, even being seen as harassing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 06:03 AM |
| 19 | Feminist/bluepill shaming of male sexuality is making men absolutely and utterly terrified of expressing any interest in women whatsoever. And that's one of the biggest things pushing them to TRP and creating the "nice guys" they despise.Honestly... the amount of men on here who seem genuinely to believe catcalling is "Women finding attention from men they consider low SMV below them". They're genuinely of the impression that they might 'mistakenly catcall' a woman when attempting a romantic asking out. They always just seem to be a... naivety and lack of worldly experience. Not even in dating, necessarily. In... walking around the world while noticing things in it, interacting with people who aren't their friendship group and f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/20 05:54 AM |
| 7 | Why do men claim to prefer women without makeup?"Natural" make up takes more time to do, sometimes requires more products. So it anything its more of a 'deception'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/20 07:41 AM |
| 5 | Why don’t women do wacky stupid shit as much as men?Based on some of the shit that I have done with my friends... It tends to be less overtly dangerous, and less... loud. Like, the most dumbass drunk over dramatic shit 'for its own sake' I've ever done or seen done is when I was around girls, and no men were there. Its like how women's sense of humour tends to be darker than men's, but only expressed when no men are present for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/20 08:01 PM |
| 7 | How do the women here feel about all the hate and misogyny being directed at J.K. Rowling all of a sudden?I disagree with JK Rowling. I think the views she is expressing are harmful. However, twitter hate mobs are not OK. If that needed saying. Most trans activists or people who have issue with the way that JK Rowling pushes forward her ideas are not a twitter hate mob. Have the SJWs gone too far? I mean - look at the front page of The Sun yesterday. Have the SJW trans activists taken over from Rupert Murdoch and his paper is now their flagship? Are they similarly going to have a special on Fox News… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 06:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: "the red pill" is actually one big complaint about "the patriarchy"You should be thankful for the computer you're typing this on - without the work of women, it wouldn't exist. Oh, you think that if a women hadn't been around to develop the first computer programs etc., to contribute to the mathematical theory required, a man would have done it? Funny how actually historical happenstance and not innate capability tends to dictate the gender (and other aspects of) of the individuals who discover these things. This level of bullshit is pretty annoying. Nothing li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/20 06:34 AM |
| 7 | The recent chain of posts reinforces how apathetic women are to men's emotions.This doesn't make TRP bullshit, they still teach men the reality of the situation. No, they teach that women don't live up to how they should be because they're 'hypergamous' or some shit, and will do it all for Chad and $$$. They don't actually lead men to the reality of the situation, because doing that would involve realising how thinking you 'deserve' women (rather than having to lift and hold frame and whatever bullshit), was actually a bigger problem for them than it was for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 05:51 PM |
| 8 | The recent chain of posts reinforces how apathetic women are to men's emotions.There is a very important distinction that I think some people here are confused about: It is fair enough to expect your partner to care about your feelings (but not ALL your feelings ALL the time). If a person is callous towards you, you should break up with them, because even if you're reading it wrong and they're fine, the relationship is fucked from that point anyway. The people you are looking to date might be women. But it is not 'women's' job to care about what you need from them. Not wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 05:25 PM |
| 12 | The recent chain of posts reinforces how apathetic women are to men's emotions.Some of the responses to posts I've seen on here recently suggest... men want a new mother, and nothing less will do. Unconditional positive regard along with sex. Because the standards they seem to hold women's empathy to... wow. It fits pretty well with the rest of 'the evidence' to be honest. Anger towards women tends to be about not providing the nurturing towards men they feel reliant on her for (having blue hair and fucking other guys when you need one). Makes sense that the red/black pill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/20 05:11 PM |
| 2 | What is the long-term motivation for working/focusing on my “beauty”?But sunscreen and moisturiser will also make a difference. If you are genetically blessed, but you let your skin get too much sunlight or dry out too much - chances are you will age much faster than you would have done otherwise. Its like someone saying that the only way to be healthy is to only eat an organic Gwyneth Paltrow style diet, someone said "That isn't necessary" (meaning 'just eat balanced and right number of cals'), and you took from that "They said that fancy stuff is nonsense, so I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/20 04:24 PM |
| 1 | What is the long-term motivation for working/focusing on my “beauty”?Sunscreen, moisturiser and cleansing at night (especially for make-up wearers) are - shock horror - going to do more for your skin than eating 5 portions of veggies a day. Vegetables are good for you, but a 'you are what you eat!' beauty lecture - that is the snake oil. It's about genetics (primarily), sun/smoke/booze exposure and basic skincare. Diet doesn't make much difference. You don't need the fancy expensive sunscreen/moisturiser/cleanser necessarily - like bargain basement emulsion cream… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/20 04:04 PM |
| 1 | What do you think of women that don't have sex for arbitrary reasons?That is the default in the west yet - DO NOT CONFUSE THIS - with everything i say is valid. THat's the MAJOR difference - 80% of what you say as a human is bullshit - and you will be shut down by superiors whether you are male or female - actually significantly more for males - because sexism. However it's absurd for men to EXPECT to be listened to. I'm just going to say that I'm 34 years old, I've lived in the world a bit, worked in a few different sectors. And.... no. The idea that somehow wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/20 06:39 AM |
| 1 | I constantly read on this sub that men don't put nearly as much effort into their appearance as women. Other than common sense and being physically fit, what can men really do?Yes of course there are fat women/women with leathery skin/baggy clothes. They're not 'rare'. Just for the most part, women (including a lot of 40/50s+ married women) around here put a lot of time/effort/money into looking put together and glamorous. Not everyone, but a lot - its pretty standard to see people looking super put together in the supermarket with their 6 month old. It's just the culture here. But then, the men do as well - steroid use, tanning, spending a lot on hair/clothes, botox … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 06:21 PM |
| 3 | I constantly read on this sub that men don't put nearly as much effort into their appearance as women. Other than common sense and being physically fit, what can men really do?Most women don't do 1/3rd of these things, or the female equivalent of these things, either. I don't know what its like where you're from, but where I live - they absolutely do. Plus professional nails/brows/waxing, hair styled and glam set most of the time (especially when going out - often professionally then, or in rollers all day), perfected make-up, often these days fillers/botox, various skin and hair treatments regularly. I do all the stuff in the original comment, and I look scruffy as h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/20 01:18 PM |
| 3 | What constitutes real self improvement?Because its about - to use cheesy millennial language because it does fit - 'being your best self'. A sort of self actualisation - with the understanding (as Maslow indeed had) that self actualisation is the fleeting pinnacle of an ongoing process rather than something you get and that is that. The minimum is "do the basic stuff for yourself that everyone does rather than just sitting on your ass and expecting everyone to respect and love you". Real self improvement on top of that isn't about th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/20 07:49 AM |
| 4 | What do you think of women that don't have sex for arbitrary reasons?More than they already have? Oh, wait, you are talking about power, not influence - well earn it then. Like everyone that has social power has to do. Nobody gives those white men power -they take it, they become proficient at using it so that it can't easily be taken from them after they get it - and then they use it. You're paradigm of: "Give me" or "Women deserve" is hilariously entitled and infantile for any man (or woman actually) that has ever achieved something difficult in their life. Wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/20 07:33 AM |
| 6 | What do you think of women that don't have sex for arbitrary reasons?Using sex as a bargaining tool does not a healthy relationship make. But I mean - whatever. There are reasons to be attracted to a man while single and not want to have sex with him/in general. It's up to the individual to set up the boundaries and conditions that allow them to feel comfortable. I mean... I think that we should discourage the idea that women should 'give' sex to the 'worthy', lest they be 'immoral', rather than do it with who they wish. And give women social influence outside of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/20 07:17 PM |
| 2 | Male versus female socializationDo you think young boys and girls should be treated the same or differently? I don't think they should be treated differently on the basis of being boys or girls. Should gender differences be purposefully encouraged to be greater or lesser? I think that gender differences shouldn't be purposefully encouraged. Saying you 'encourage them to be lesser' implies purposefully removing something that was already there - that is not necessary. What, in regard to socialization, would cause a new generati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/20 06:46 PM |
| 2 | If women are the less promiscuous of the two sexes, how come a greater portion of women than men are in the “past doesn’t matter” camp?I really don't understand this question? And yet it’s women who participate in slut walks and it’s women and the guys they date and cheat on who get up in arms when a man expresses unease after discovering the lurid details of his partner’s past. Slut walks are about the idea that women can have sex without being judged negatively for it. The reason that slut walks exist is because women are more likely to be judged for having had or enjoying casual sex. Men who 'express unease' over 'lurid deta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/20 06:20 AM |
| 9 | Do you think women live life on easy mode/tutorial mode, like many red pillers claim?women receive special privileges men don't But my point was that for the majority of women, these 'privileges' amount to little. "Oh, less people take what you say seriously... here you can join the queue before me". "Oh, you're expected to do the majority of childcare and housework even if you are employed... can I buy you a drink once in a blue moon?". And of course because women are more likely to be the ones with the kids they make, if all else fails they get to be the culturally despised an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 02:57 PM |
| 13 | Do you think women live life on easy mode/tutorial mode, like many red pillers claim?But 'average women' don't constantly get shit done for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 02:44 PM |
| 7 | Do you think women live life on easy mode/tutorial mode, like many red pillers claim?I don't think she was a doormat as such, as young and just wanted to do her best and prove herself and people took advantage of that. Happens all the time. If anything, more so with women, I'd say. A bit like that "Women get paid less because they don't negotiate for raises". Men seem more likely to have the confidence to go "I don't have to do that! You won't fire me!" while women seem more to be worried that unless they seem compliant and grateful they're 'a bitch' - so they just think it's ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 02:42 PM |
| 6 | Do you think women live life on easy mode/tutorial mode, like many red pillers claim?Big whoop Indeed. Big whoop. Life is mainly work that no one notices or thanks you for and then you die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 02:36 PM |
| 19 | Do you think women live life on easy mode/tutorial mode, like many red pillers claim?I see a lot of posts like these, and I always wonder Providing they're attractive. How attractive? Because, yeah attractive people tend to get a lot of followers. But... 95% of women... unless you're acting like you might fuck them, or they're actively trying it on to see if you will bite, men don't really seem to give a shit that you exist. Which is fine, as long as they give basic human courtesy of not, like, knocking you down as they walk. Like, I'm thinking back to one colleague I had, who w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 02:24 PM |
| 2 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.To sum up my last comment on a more recent post; anxious attachments tend to be lead to fixed mindsets. Secure attachments lead to growth mindsets. Learners with insecure attachment also respond to Growth Mindset interventions Patriarchy, which is facilitated by and interdependent with hypergamy. Thats... a theory. I suppose. The reason it is so hard to acknowledge, is that even trying to explain this to women is the bargaining phase of red pill rage. Ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 12:40 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: Did you experience any anti-male bias during your education? Please read the full post before commenting.Literally same experience as you. But woman. Meanwhile my brother is Mr Diligent Homework Gold Star Boy. Yes yes, anomalies. But I think we overestimate how much these things are to do with gender - because we tend to expect it more, look for it more and reinforce it more. Seems that is likely the case with more specific 'gender difference' educational issues such as ADHD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 09:55 AM |
| 6 | Q4M: Did you experience any anti-male bias during your education? Please read the full post before commenting.Not a man, but as a teacher this is a topic that is of interest to me. I don't have the answers, at least not yet. I want to keep exploring and learning, so a lot of the responses to this post have been interesting. Comment I just made in another thread is relevant, though.. From a personal perspective of how I felt at school/college myself: I'm in a position where I'm a woman, but I have what a lot of people would refer to as a 'male brain' or 'male learning style' - I have dyslexia and ADHD, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 09:24 AM |
| 4 | Q4M: Did you experience any anti-male bias during your education? Please read the full post before commenting.Surely you see that this part of your course seems like an attempt to make you critically analyse historical sources and perceptions? Because up until recently (and still mainly) "History" was basically "The history of rich white men"? Look, I wasn't there, maybe your teacher was indeed a rabid man hater looking for any excuse to get the boot in. But is it possible she was explaining a critical perspective of the accepted 'story' of male accomplishments, to make you be a better historian? I drop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 08:41 AM |
| 3 | Do people underestimate how much society's lack of proper raising of boys leads to most of the problems that get brought up here, particularly in regards to the proper utilization of the male ego?My thread on Growth Mindset was sort of about this. Link near the top of the post has the best breakdown on what that means. Interestingly, I've heard this mentioned a lot as a possible explanation/contributing factor for why boys tend to not do as well in school. Because (sorry can't remember where I read about this theory/research now) apparently people tend to talk to boys in a more 'you're smart' or 'you're a winner' and girls in a more 'you've done well' 'be a good girl' type way. That this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/20 08:16 AM |
| 2 | Q to bluepill, why you are not redpill?Cant women cheat, take your money or like you only for what you have? Of course. Some women are awful. What are your philosophy and arguments against them To be as brief as humanly possible: 1) It is incredibly myopic and uncritical in the way it 'dissects' and 'explains' behaviour. Basically everything women do is 'explained' by some dubious sidebar sexual selection nonsense. To give an example - if a man approaches a woman to converse and maybe ask out, and the woman is distant/walks off. Red … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, to women, do the sexual histories of potential partners matter? Listed are multiple scenarios.I'm not planning on dating again, so going forward its kind of irrelevant. In terms of the past... nothing springs to mind, but I didn't date that extensively. I've dated guys who have previously had unsafe sex, and slept with someone who I knew had done so but had a clean bill of health. What I was trying to say with my post is more... I don't really like "deal breakers", unless the thing is very extreme (seriously harming someone and/or sex offences, for example). So having paid for sex is ind… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 09:08 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, to women, do the sexual histories of potential partners matter? Listed are multiple scenarios.None | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/20 08:39 AM |
| 2 | People who hate the opposite gender: what can they do to earn your "forgiveness"? What would it take for you to stop hating them?Oh, I think this is where you misunderstood. The idea is that society conditioned all of us to believe that women are second class citizens. I heard a really good way of explaining the idea of misogyny once which was "misogyny is the enforcement branch of sexism". Sexism is the belief that women are x/y/z, misogyny is the strong dislike displayed by others or felt within yourself when a woman/you does not conform to that. Misogyny is the reason to conform to arbitrary shit, basically. You are co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 05:38 PM |
| 2 | People who hate the opposite gender: what can they do to earn your "forgiveness"? What would it take for you to stop hating them?I am not sure how it is irrational? Can you expand on this? There are a few definitions of misogyny. The most plain is a 'hatred/strong dislike of women'. Most others are to do with a reaction of hatred/dislike/revulsion/anger to women who do not act/are not acting in ways you believe women should act. Hating someone for the way they are is an irrational emotion. Surely if misogyny - both from men and internalised - is the reason that 'I am a second class citizen' (as you characterised the femin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 05:08 PM |
| 6 | People who hate the opposite gender: what can they do to earn your "forgiveness"? What would it take for you to stop hating them?But when it comes to sexual strategy I would raise them differently. I outlined this in this thread already. I would give them exactly the same advice. I'd tell them to respect themselves, to never believe that they needed someone's affection for validation. I'd tell them that they must always also respect others, respect their wishes and what they want the same way you must respect what you want - that they may deserve love and affection, but are not entitled to it, so if they want it, they mus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 04:53 PM |
| 2 | People who hate the opposite gender: what can they do to earn your "forgiveness"? What would it take for you to stop hating them?This makes women inferior to men. So wait... if the problem is the amount of misogyny held, and you are more misogynistic than me, wouldn't that make me superior to you? Because misogyny is irrational. So if you believe I am a second class citizen due to misogyny, and I do not believe that, I am more rational? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 04:44 PM |
| 6 | People who hate the opposite gender: what can they do to earn your "forgiveness"? What would it take for you to stop hating them?Isn't that... how to raise both girls and boys? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 04:39 PM |
| 2 | People who hate the opposite gender: what can they do to earn your "forgiveness"? What would it take for you to stop hating them?Women being inferior second-class citizens is a major part of feminism too. The idea that women too desire a patriarch and gender roles and therefore uphold "the patriarchy" is common. I think you've seriously misunderstood internalised misogyny here, bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Statistics showing the type of users here on Purple PillYeah, I admit I was being a bit facetious there. In my other post, I went more into what as far as I can see radfems are actually about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 01:04 PM |
| 10 | Statistics showing the type of users here on Purple PillTo give an attempt at a less crazed explanation: Libfems are more about a critical deconstruction of gender roles/expectations. They see 'the patriarchy' as a social structure of power imbalances that grew from historical beliefs, and believe it hurts men as well. Argue that liberation from these harmful structures comes from a social movement towards recognition and awareness of our assumptions about gender, believe that our categories/hierarchy today are a product of a wider 'story' rather tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 09:52 AM |
| 6 | Statistics showing the type of users here on Purple PillGender critical is just what the TERFs call themselves nowadays. Aka "I can't be critical of our societal gender roles without hating on trans-people and believing men are inherently evil, because I do not have the cognitive capacity to understand complexity". Its a misconception that it's about being 'more feminist' than other feminists - it's a different worldview/focus, not just a more extreme example of the same one. Though part of my wonders how many of the users here are actual TERFs, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/20 09:08 AM |
| 9 | Honestly, to women, do the sexual histories of potential partners matter? Listed are multiple scenarios.None of these is a deal breaker, as such, though a few would make me seriously wary. Utilising prostitutes would concern me the most, but again not necessarily a deal breaker, depending on the circumstances. To be honest, radical idea here... but I'd be more interested to hear about their past in terms of why they did what they did. I'd want to hear at least a vague breakdown of the story, not just a tickbox categorisation. Because while I can't be sure they're not just taking me for a ride, I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/20 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Self-reflection is an important practice that many people lack, resulting in a lot of entitlement.We admire them because they have the balls to not give a shit about societal expectations while achieving success. Because there are two types of "don't give a fuck about societal expectations". The one where you do that in an attempt to wantonly and radically deconstruct the system, while also enjoying yourself, and the one where you do it to 'win' and then reinforce the system. or are too kind to do Yeah, what kind of ridiculous societal pressure would celebrate people for being kind over 'win… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/20 08:30 PM |
| 4 | Self-reflection is an important practice that many people lack, resulting in a lot of entitlement.IDK, your boy Boris may be almost as bad. Oh, I agree with this. The man is a personality cult scumbag. But he is more about... a fake 'beffudled smart guy, he has no time for this dour whinging about poverty nonsense, I'd like to have a drink with him" aura than it is portraying power. They're both dipshit populist liars, but Trump's thing is about strength while Johnson is about affability. Actually to give a very topical UK politics example, the current Dominic Cummings lockdown breaking scan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/20 05:23 PM |
| 5 | Self-reflection is an important practice that many people lack, resulting in a lot of entitlement.Trump is a case in point. Can you imagine anyone less self aware? I think this is kind of a weird US cultural phenomena, in a lot of ways. I was actually thinking about it this morning, because I watched a stand up routine (pre-Trump being a political thing) that set me off on that. Like, in most of the world (UK being my main reference), someone who displays a lack of awareness of their own glaring limitations is socially policed down. It seems like in the US... the gumption involved in deluded… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/20 04:44 PM |
| 5 | Are most of the couples you know in life looksmatched?I was going to say yes, but they I remembered that 90% of the shit I see on the internet comparing 3s to 8s to 6s or whatever, they all just kind of look like people to me. Like, I notice very attractive people are very attractive, and I notice people who are very unfortunate looking. But most of the time someone says "Because they're hot/ugly" I'm like "Are they?". This sounds like I'm virtue signalling my lack of shallow looks based judgement. But its more just I'm pretty good at tuning out sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/20 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Men who've had 25+ lays, do you hide your nerdier hobbies from girls you wanna fuck?I was in high school react differently But thats my point. High school. When people actually think the whole nerds/edgey-cool/jock thing actually means something. And college is just after high school so they're likely still doing what they're used to. Doesn't mean its right, even if I'm not holding it against them. I'm not raged or envious of your friend I didn't mean of my friend. I meant at women. it's that I've seen your type comment before on these kinds of threads Yeah and I've seen many m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/20 11:17 AM |
| 2 | Men who've had 25+ lays, do you hide your nerdier hobbies from girls you wanna fuck?Your understanding of those 2 games seems pretty shallow, like most women's. I literally just said its about what they're commonly associated with, not what they actually are, and that is why its maybe an issue to bring up with women (and other non-woman people) you have just met. No, I'm not super up to date on the demographic of YGOPRO, most people are not - thats not because people are shallow and dismissive, thats just because why would they be? People are far more likely to know a 10 year o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/20 09:45 AM |
| 3 | Men who've had 25+ lays, do you hide your nerdier hobbies from girls you wanna fuck?Not a man myself: The most 'notorious for putting it around' guy in my social groups is a massive and unashamed nerd. Like... hardcore Trekkie, gamer, compulsively makes pedantic sci-fi references, very 'uncool' excitement levels about nerdy stuff which he never hides, etc. He is also charismatic and good looking. Another hyper-sexed player type guy I know who is a bit older has a locally notorious collection of Doctor Who memorabilia that he will brag about to anyone who will listen. You guys s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/20 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Using the language and terminology of economics to describe romantic or sexual relationships is self sabotaging behavior, and a foundational cause of rage in the gender slap fightThats just another version of the classic 'sunshine and rainbows' strawman people like to throw from TRP. The disagreement never seems to be with the idea that dating can be looked at as 'a market place'. I mean, its people making judgements of whether they can get with a person who 'seems to be x' considering what they can offer themselves. And elements of interaction between dates/sex partners/couples are transactional. Of course that is going to behave somewhat similar to an economic marketpl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 12:18 PM |
| 2 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.I upvoted because your post is long. Effort should be rewarded. Carol, is that you? That's, like, when you first figure out that your culture has been lying to you since forever, about something that's really important. But... what have they been lying about? Why? Is this because the women held the truth from you and you need to Matrix reference that shit up, or is it because we live in the hyper capitalist end times where we're told caring about each other is a sign of weakness? Thats kind of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.Women hate to hear about the TRP methods but they love the results. My wife was depressed and angry all the time. Now she’s the happiest she’s ever been. What did you do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 11:39 PM |
| 3 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.the core issues that men have with women. Which issues? Because that is about how you feel about women, not about how you should approach your own life - what you should do. And surely any approach which focuses on agency and taking control has got to be about that. So go lift, start a business, enjoy your relationships. But it's nowhere close to being a permanent state of affairs. A chick will destroy a relationship with no backup plan. It is what is is. So you're saying its not about self impr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.Thanks for your reply. I don't agree really... but you make some good points. I suppose what I was more referring to was the guys who apparently never realised self-help 'focussing on self improvement' was a thing until they stumbled across the red pill and Jordan Peterson. Poor little lambs. I also suppose what I mean is in terms of a focus on... what you can do, rather than status and 'competitive dating'. Its like how people with growth mindset who can't write music like Mozart, don't think t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.Ok, so you have a hangup about your ex wife. I so enjoy how you talk about your natural growth mindset with words like "I've always had" and "weak guys". Ego ego ego. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Growth Mindset and the need for the red pill.The official scientific term for the "growth" vs "fixed" mindset is "internal locus of control" vs "external locus of control," respectively. Thanks for coming to explain things to me with your Tomassi book learnin'. No but seriously, there is a reason why the internal/external locus of control model doesn't work in the face of the research around this mindset distinction. Because theorising around the internal/external locus of control relies on either a 'me vs. things done to me' or 'fatalism … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Where can I find woman in real life that are as bold and unfiltered on ppd?And rain. Google "Geordie Shore". You may need subtitles. I'm on the other side of the pennines, and its not all fucking and falling over, but that gives you a good gist of the... general attitude to "just statin' it plain, like". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Where can I find woman in real life that are as bold and unfiltered on ppd?unfiltered Welcome to the north of England, my friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 05:30 PM |
| 2 | The myth of human female sexual selectionHe is, at length, trying to get through to you that you are applying human social criteria to other animals where you cannot. You might want 'the evidence' to support what you would like, but you can't just force it to when it doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Is bad parenting fueling the current climate of male social ineptitude?The self esteem movement was growing which was the idea that a parents primary job was to build their child’s self esteem. Ironically, helicopter parenting is not going to build a kid's self esteem, in fact do the opposite. It is kind of ironic as well with the 'participation trophy' type thing. Because people see all kinds of focus in bringing up kids or education that isn't about "Being the best gets you the best" to be creating snowflakes who think they're entitled for showing up. But actuall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 12:38 PM |
| 1 | The myth of human female sexual selectionYou're doing the Cow God's work here in this thread. All the upvotes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 11:49 AM |
| 3 | Is bad parenting fueling the current climate of male social ineptitude?you didn't say what exactly it is that you teach Science. Hence the compulsion to correct misconceptions about scientific research, and also getting triggered when people don't give units. pretending men and women are the same Never said that. Any wrong you commit WILL be forgiven, allowing you to fuck up countless time till you get it right. I am to believe this statement why? "You can't make your own worldview after seeing it" Again, not what I said. I said that it is a 'lens' type theory that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/20 08:51 AM |
| 3 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?Why is fulfilling some sort of social expectation so important to young women? Why is social expectation and validation so important to young men? Why do you care about what women think of you, what other men think of you? Funnily enough I've never spoken to a TERPer who seemed to actually enjoy sex, compared to their hand or some whatever partner who is fantasising about Chad cock. They just want it more and more, and crave it more and more, they obsess over whether the Cock Carousel has ruined… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Is bad parenting fueling the current climate of male social ineptitude?schools full of female teachers Full disclaimer - am female teacher. Actually maybe going to do another reply about a kid I was just thinking about, in terms of that. I'll use myself as an example; My parents never let me leave the house at all to hang out with my friends or even go home by myself. It was always school, church and home every day until Uni, eventually I didn't have any friends left. I always felt like I was 5 years behind everyone else socially. Expectedly I didn't have any clue … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 10:25 PM |
| 6 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?Personally? It's hard to be rejected/ghosted. It's also hard to be harassed. It's hard to live with the idea that men will fuck anything with a pulse, so if they seem un-keen about you, you must basically be Jabba the Hut with lipstick. If men are interested - "they just want pussy, any pussy, you dumb deluded bitch thinking a message from a guy means they like you". Fuck them? You're a whore. Don't fuck them? You're a stuck up prude who thinks they're above their station. Hard to actually enjoy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 09:29 PM |
| 1 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?So you 'have a view' of the female experience. Thats nice. Why should I give a shit? As an actual woman who also knows actual women, your account both doesn't chime and has no weight to me. I can't discuss the intricacies of why I do the thing that I don't do. And I'm not an anomaly - if I saw these hard patterns in other women, I could discuss that. But I can't. Because I don't. You can tell me I'm deluded until the sun swallows the earth, its not going to make me believe you unless you present… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 09:06 PM |
| 2 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?But they also get invited to more parties Maybe I'm just a nerd. But in school... basically never, in college... actually generally as a pathetic hanger on to a male friend that had been invited. I was kind of quiet. never have to pay for drinks or drugs frequently Always pay for my own drink and drugs. Maybe this is a regional culture thing, but... yeah, buy my own drinks (or rounds). people are generally nicer to them I've heard this. Maybe. Obviously I can only speak from the female experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 08:54 PM |
| 3 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?How can women not see that fighting for careers and better pay and PC language is all corporate agendas. I mean, 'lean in feminism' gets a lot of schtick from other feminists. And the 'feminist' and 'marxist' venn diagram has some pretty big overlap (though equally they're sometimes at each other's throats). Personally, I couldn't give a shit about how 'respected my position at work' is. I work with kids and I care about doing my best for them, and I like being able to buy food and rent, but apa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 07:06 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: What have you thought of men who have stopped pursuing you in the past?Well, of course I never knew for sure. Thats the thing. You consider both. I actually always assumed that everyone (men and women) thought like that, at least to an extent. Your more positive side going "I'm just not what they're looking for, thats not my fault, oh well, more fish in the sea hopefully" and that other side going "I wonder if I did something wrong? Am I going to do it wrong again if there is a next time?". And of course that little deep down hyper-critical voice somewhere in the b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 05:59 PM |
| 4 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?I get this from my father. I'll say something like women are hypergamous. Or show him a video of emma Watson talking about "he for she" and what I don't like about it. And he says," how can you say that knowing your own mother and sister. You don't think that about them do you?" At the end of the day, you know your dad better than me, but... From my understanding, the 'women are wonderful effect' is the idea that research shows that women are more assumed to have good intentions and not be 'up t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 05:34 PM |
| 14 | Q4W: What have you thought of men who have stopped pursuing you in the past?I always just thought "seems like he got to see more and decided he wasn't interested". Sometimes was a bit hurt/upset about it, especially if I'd really like him. But always just generally... assumed he decided he didn't want to date me/met someone else he liked more? Of course if we'd actually dated a couple of times and left it open, I'd text/call before I called it a day and stopped waiting around. And then is he didn't respond or responded in a way that was very... polite 'because I have to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 04:35 PM |
| 5 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?I'm all up for listening, really, this subreddit is just... not very good at it, and there aren't really a whole load of other options. I get that, while dating as a woman sucks in many ways, there are ways that dating as a man must really suck. For example. And again, for example, I think there is something to the 'disposability' argument, though I think that gets taken to the absurd levels (no, being kept around in times of war/famine as a back-up incubator doesn't make me feel super valued an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 04:20 PM |
| 4 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?I mean, taking into account statistical representations of reality just gets in the way of your egocentric righteous victimhood ranting, right? They should fuck off with that noise. In before: "Asxctually feminisms is all about crying about their perceived victimhood - hypocrites. I'm just getting them back! Also their perception of the world is biased, while I know mine is true, so..." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 03:29 PM |
| 1 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?Maybe not. I'm not them. But generally this 'stuff that was fun' I was talking about... I was doing it with guys or there were guys there doing it as well? I wasn't getting a first hand look at the micro social interactions/expressions they were getting, but they certainly smiled and laughed and said they were having fun? Meanwhile, I get lectured on here about how I was getting to have that fun and automatic respect for vagina because vagina. But I'm pretty sure I remember paying for it by gett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 03:11 PM |
| 4 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?or having fun in general How so? Because for various weird reasons I won't really go into I never did the hooking up thing or really even dating until a bit later. Felt pretty down about it at the time. And I did have fun despite that. Just... hanging out with friends, doing shit that was fun, seeing stuff that was new to me at the time. What part of that do young men not have? Because if you're getting at "All the people just giving you free shit and being lovely to you!"... there were guys the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 02:58 PM |
| 2 | question about enforcement mechanisms for gender role transgression by menThis is easy to understand from a math perspective. I don't think that pulling numbers out of your ass and then comparing them counts as 'math', but.... ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 08:27 AM |
| 3 | question about enforcement mechanisms for gender role transgression by menI am able to go behind the paywall, so I had a quick look (seems a pretty straightforwards piece of research, though I don't have time to go over it at length so apologies if I missed the point somewhere). This study builds partly on research that men who show 'female traits/behaviours' are more likely to perceived as gay as women who transgress, and talk about how therefore homophobia likely plays a part in social perceptions of men/women who transgress from expected roles. Which is interesting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 08:23 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: what do you think about women keeping their maiden names?This is a brutal concept that is really hard to accept; being right isnt enough. In the end, nobody cares. About your wants, your needs, ultimately about you. Its a concept I have already accepted. But this is what I mean - I have to be accountable for my own decisions, to myself. I don't care what anyone else does, I can hope other people do things, but the only person I can . But who doesnt get in now? What now becomes the go to challenge to discover who is actually family? The honor system do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: what do you think about women keeping their maiden names?I see were you're coming from, and its why its something I've thought about. Also for example I had a lecturer who told us about how she always used to have a nightmare getting through airports when her kids were young, because she had a different name to her kids (due to not taking her husband's name but giving the kids that name). (Maybe that has changed now though, because her kids were older even when she said this a few years ago, and I work with kids/families and LOADS of kids don't have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 11:34 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: what do you think about women keeping their maiden names?I kept my maiden name. I might change it one day on passport/banking/etc. if we have kids for ease of legal shit, but probably still keep it professionally. But I can also see myself not being arsed to do the paperwork, so. There was a little bit of "Will people see us as married?" "Are you joining my family?" and then he realised they would and I was and he was over it. Ironically his family don't seem to care at all, but my family (specifically the men in my family) were up in arms. You'd thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 11:27 AM |
| 2 | If men are as "socially" priveleged as feminist women say, how come OJ Simpson has been cancelled but Carole Baskin has not?You know that a bizarre publicised event about these events during a time of extreme racial tension and distrust determined that he did not kill his wife and that poor waiter guy, thereby highlighting the issues with the criminal justice system in the US (and elsewhere). Fixed it for you. Also the civil court passed determinations based on their assessment that he did, in fact, do it. So, in (sort of) legal terms, 'it is not beyond reasonable doubt that he didn't do it' but 'on the balance of pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 11:12 AM |
| 6 | Pessimistic thought of the day: People say they prefer to have sex with someone they feel attached to, but what happens is that they feel attached to any sexy person in their surroundingsThey have a strong bond with someone --> They have great sex with them They have great sex with someone --> They have a strong bond with them Eh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 10:44 AM |
| 5 | If men are as "socially" priveleged as feminist women say, how come OJ Simpson has been cancelled but Carole Baskin has not?It was me. I invented cancel culture. You're cancelled, btw. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 09:18 AM |
| 2 | If men are as "socially" priveleged as feminist women say, how come OJ Simpson has been cancelled but Carole Baskin has not?This post is awesome, but to be to actual 'cancel culture' talk for a minute... There was this great cartoon I saw where a comedian was talking about how the "PC cancel culture" or whatever won't let him talk about the free speech, with a netflix stamp in the corner while someone hands him bags of money. I looked for it and can't find it, I am sad about that. This makes me think about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 09:17 AM |
| 5 | Making shit matter - Penalties for abandonment during illness, no-fault divorce, and more!Sort of. The problem I see with the "we're all accountable to each other" is that... (and this is where my right-wing tendencies certainly DO spring from)... layabouts are real, no matter how much leftists like to insist that they aren't. I don't think it's just or fair that some people just get to ride off of the labors of others, into eternity, because they just don't really feel like working, or "don't like working with people." I... its hard to go into without telling you my life story, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 09:37 PM |
| 15 | Making shit matter - Penalties for abandonment during illness, no-fault divorce, and more!I think, as you seem to agree on many levels, the old school marriage thing was pretty fucked up. People were legally trapped in misery, not an insignificant amount of the time. And a lot of the time, that was also a woman in a position of financial impossibility and servitude, because she was generally the one with more to lose if it dissolved. In that respect, the no fault divorce seems like a necessity. Not a nice thing, but an... ethically necessary option. At the end of the day, marriage is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 08:38 PM |
| 4 | Nobody's going to give a shit about sex bots, they will just be a thing for porn addicts and a novel thing men might try onceAnd every time we have the comment you just made. The thing is... look at the top comment. The moment this gets brought up, it takes 0.3 seconds to descend into "Those dumb women, thinking they have human worth, when really all they are is a warm hole with annoyance attached" etc. etc. You can't really blame people for being a teensy bit put out by that, even if its not worth it. This seems to be the topic where - even by TRP standards - they just go to town with the anti-woman vitriol and littl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 07:57 PM |
| 2 | FDS illustrates one of the many reasons men aren't thrilled about high n-count womenIt's especially common to talk about how they used to be really nice and giving, but were in a relationship with an asshole who didn't reciprocate/didn't care, so now they don't do that anymore. Great, good for her. Except what does this mean for a new man entering this woman's life? It means he'll get someone who is now selfish, high maintenance, and emotionally closed off. And maybe because of this they will miss out on a connection with a new guy who they could have actually been happy with. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 11:28 AM |
| 3 | Ladies. You've done the impossible and gotten commitment from chad. Hypothetical situation.Do you stay with him? He does make you happy. ..... yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 11:14 AM |
| 4 | [Meta] Not enough bluepillersThe problem with bluepillers is that they are allergic to free discussions. The thing is... its rare to see an actual discussion between someone who doesn't buy red pill and someone who does on here. I do occasionally. It's nice. Meanwhile, the times I see 'Red Pillers' remarking that "well this was a case of a free discussion" its normally because the person already agreed with them. The problem is that any framework that talks about 'swallowing a pill' is going to be especially difficult to en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 10:53 AM |
| 3 | "You're Delusional" is Nothing but an Unconscious Shit Test.I mean every time, it's from a woman. I've never gotten that from any dude I thought women were the ones 'hamstering' their own thinking in order to incorrectly attribute non-sociopathic logic to their behaviour? Is that a shit test? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 09:57 AM |
| 5 | It's time for the return of this study - the only study that attempted to measure hypergamy in online datingI dunno if your analogy holds up, man. Because you're the one who seems unhappy and is here whinging about how, unlike your dog, women don't enjoy being around you due to your objectionable nature. I mean I'm fine, I have someone in my house I'm both loyal to and like being around. (Also I have neither pet, but do actually prefer dogs for the most part.) But you've made a good point - if you can't find that, and not into the cat thing, getting a dog would indeed be the better option than spendin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/20 07:55 AM |
| 4 | It's time for the return of this study - the only study that attempted to measure hypergamy in online datingBoth men and women continue conversations with more desirable suitors, but in women's case they call it a "strategic behavior" and in men's case they call it "selectivity through nonreciprocity". Yes, its some pretty intriguing language choice in there, isn't it? Not sure what to make of it. The headline is totally just clickbait, though. "Hey guys, just got that research paper you want published. Looks great. Why don't you give it a clickbaity title that is going to get the internet armchair ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 02:12 PM |
| 10 | It's time for the return of this study - the only study that attempted to measure hypergamy in online datingWomen have been trained (by feminism) to never settle. I dunno, man. Maybe spending time with you just seems less appealing than crochet with your six cats. Cats and crochet can be nice. I don't think cats are feminism's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 12:43 PM |
| 1 | There are many attractive alpha looking men who are 'bluepill' and will never have to take or even comprehend the redpillChange 'high value male' to 'high value person' and... welcome to basically every self-help book/guru/lifestyle coach since a long long time before anyone decided to make PUA/Red Pill a thing. You can absolutely not believe in free-will as some sort of 'philosophical truth', and believe that environment and society has a huge impact on a person's thinking and outcomes - but still 100% agree "Its down to me!" is the best personal approach to life. Most of the problems with our personal lives, tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone not been catcalled in public?Do you do psychology or something? I used to, back in the day. But I suppose I should be clear that 'the psychology' doesn't make me right about what the catcallers are thinking. The framework/ideology of modern psychology would rightfully point out that I (OR ANYONE) have no way of knowing that for sure, and that my personal beliefs and biases surely impact my interpretation of other's behaviour. But in a less science-y (though not 'therefore not true') sense, I do think that women who have exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone not been catcalled in public?I don't know really, its kind of a confusing shit show isn't it? As far as I can tell (from what the people tell me) - 'red pill' is a sort of dating strategy meets world view that implies women are trying to exploit you so you should try and exploit them. 'Black pill' is that again, but with an extra 'so no one can ever be happy'. "Blue pill' is... basically everything else. Satire mocking 'the red pill' fans, or a position that reducing dating/sex/gender the way the red pill does is basically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/20 09:27 AM |
| 18 | Has anyone not been catcalled in public?My opinion is all cat calling is done by like 1% of men. The average guy just wouldn't. I agree with this part (maybe more than 1%, but a minority). the whole idea of putting women on a pedestal and chasing like a SIMP loser I mentioned something on here about catcalling the other day, and the rational TRPers tried to call out on how it was just that I got offended when men I saw as below me were interested. But genuine thesis statement I'm going to lay out there because of the content of the OP… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 10:29 PM |
| 1 | There are many attractive alpha looking men who are 'bluepill' and will never have to take or even comprehend the redpillhis personal philosophy and advice to young men watching and it pretty much lined up with the redpill What was it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 09:54 PM |
| 31 | What about the 28% of sexless men makes women prefer to be single than date them?Personally, I'd rather be single than 'take care of the house' for some guy I don't even like. Because I'd get to do all the things I'm already doing... and not also have to pair up some fucker's socks. Would they really want me to pity fuck them and clean their kitchen surfaces without wanting to be there? Because if the roles were reversed... I'd probably rather just 'sort myself out' and wipe down my own kitchen. Rather than have to think about the miserable slave human currently in my living… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 09:41 PM |
| 2 | People assume any approach is a sexual approach because it's no longer common to have casual friendsChange My View: People assume the worst of any interaction because wanting to make friends has become less common than ever but openly wanting to fuck has become more common than ever. I'm not auto-mod posting because I want to CMV/quibble about your points and thinking. But... in a more general sense... kinda. Basically I think.. the internet. In some ways the internet has connected people and given them more social connections than ever before. But in other ways, it's cemented a sort of... col… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 06:11 PM |
| 4 | Men don't approach anymore ...You’re great. Thanks, so are you! Its a win-win, isn't it? Makes people feel nice, which is good for them. Also people who feel nice are less likely to punch you in the face, which is good for you. Smiles all around! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellNot totally. She also speaks for herself liking all the female privilege and not at all speak to gender issues. On this note read up on Norah Vincent and what she did for her book Self Made Man. She actually lived as a man for like a week. She did basically everything men do, it being dating, socializing, etc. There's even various video's on it. Least to say it not only shocked her but she also seem to had some mental issues stemming from it because men's world is so different from women's. She … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellI guarantee she says this Link with timestamp where she says the actual opposite. I mean, she doesn't say men have it worse either. She actually talks about the differences, the pros/cons, the complexity of the question. Absolutely - I'm sure there were some feminists who didn't like when she said this. But... I also think that is the reason why she is so popular, amongst feminists. On 'ask feminists'. Etc. She is refreshing. She actually goes through analysing things and considering all the poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 08:52 AM |
| 4 | Men don't approach anymore ...For real. If I meet someone's gaze for whatever reason with strangers in public, I make eye contact and smile at them. Men, women, children (especially children). Because like you said, positivity is nice and I want the people around me to feel good, and them to treat others the same. Its just... what I've always done. Now I think about it, there is probably an element of self protection in there as well. Like... sometimes people think you're annoyed at them, or even yes 'creeped out by them', '… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 07:53 AM |
| 2 | Feminism in a nutshellNo but I've skimmed some of her other video's and like you and other feminists she makes the same mistakes as you and other feminists. Meaning she only takes the female point of view. I'd advise you do more than just 'skim' looking for the ways you could 'win her' and actually engage. I just remembered the "Men" one as well, when I googled her channel to get the link for you. 1.7 million views on a video, on a channel that is feminist fan-dom central, where someone says "I like attention and als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/20 09:12 PM |
| 0 | Do you think a large number of millennial and gen z men will end up without a life partner and chance to reproduce?While I'm fine with that, I just want to point out... I was responding to a post where you 'implied' [essentially stated] I was gaslighting (a tactic employed by abusers to make their victims think they're crazy) you/men. My words were just an attempt to cut the bullshit and lay our cards on the table in a... wake up call kind of way. In a less... that... way - I don't think you're just what I said you were. I do really think that you're pulling at strings in a sort of top-down attempt to figure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/20 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Do you think a large number of millennial and gen z men will end up without a life partner and chance to reproduce?Most people decide they want stability over novelty before 'their looks start to decline'. Most 'betas' have casual sex. But okaydokes. If you think that women are predatory fuckers who would throw you out for the Chad cock if the looks fairy made them 10 years younger, then don't marry/live with one of them. It's that simple. You think I'm gaslighting to serve my imperatives taking the disgusting beta bux for all their worth. I think you're a paranoid weirdo trying to find logical reasoning to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/20 03:44 PM |
| 4 | I find it weird how Dead Bedrooms is mostly women. Why is that?Interesting story. Thanks for sharing. Glad to hear you're doing better, even if there is still some friction in your life. Give him a new girl every couple of weeks or months, and everyone will think he has the highest libido ever. Put him in a relationship, and he’ll go completely celibate. Just my guess. Just a PSA following on from something I said in another thread: If you are like this, don't 'settle down' with someone just because you think you're 'supposed to'. Maybe you'll change and on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/20 03:29 PM |
| -2 | Do you think a large number of millennial and gen z men will end up without a life partner and chance to reproduce?If you want. If a guy has generally 'found' that being around a woman/women is 'putting up with female bullshit' - its obviously better for everyone he doesn't get married. Like, I was saying before "I used to like x/y/z kind of stuff when I was younger, got bored of it, what I wanted from life changed..." - but that isn't going to be the same with everyone. Plenty of women as well - would much prefer to keep having those kind of 'going out'/travel/freedom over consistency experiences for the wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/20 02:30 PM |
| -2 | Do you think a large number of millennial and gen z men will end up without a life partner and chance to reproduce?In a world where sex isn't weirdly feared and policed (a good thing), so people can have sex out side of long term monogamy... yeah, a lot of them are going to do that, if/at times when monogamy isn't important to them. I don't agree with the TRPer explanation/paranoia that this is because the majority of women 'ride the cock carousel' looking for 'the ultimate Chad to mate with', but then settle for their 'second choice beta bux' once their eggs start drying up, while silently/subconsciously wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/20 11:01 AM |
| 2 | Feminism in a nutshellBut clearly feminsits don't think the lack of men in teaching or in the medical field is well an issue. They do. I was just posting on PPD the other day about how the massively increasing number of men in primary (age 4-11) teaching surprised me and is great. This is what happens when you break down gender norms that 'young kids are women's work', and point out that considering a role 'lesser' because women tend to do it is dumb. College, medicine... what do we do about those things? Maybe if we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/20 08:15 AM |
| 4 | Do you think a large number of millennial and gen z men will end up without a life partner and chance to reproduce?Men are told a lot on here that most men end up finding a partner and having kids, but do you think this will be true of millennial men and gen z men? Mate, you guys are 24 at most. You'll probably 'settle down' like the vast majority of confused and panicked 24 year olds did in the past. Maybe you won't, and people who didn't in society were always a thing... but you probably will. Considering the huge number of people in previous generations who hadn't settled down at 24s, but then did - which… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/20 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Discovering TRP is one of the the best things that can happen to a man.Western women should thank them, not hate them. In a way. Because it, like most cults, has a sort of... characteristic language and structure, that makes it quite an easily identifiable ideology. So if you're on a date with a guy, and you pick up on that, you can be like "I have just ascertained that you are damaged and angry with a poor grasp of logic. I'm not really into that combo, gonna go now." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/20 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellA story example about child development and gender, to illustrate my point: So let's say there is a little boy, Jason, and he is three years old. (Could be two, could be one, for the example to still work.) Jason's mother, Anne, is generally pretty chill about gender roles - she thinks kids should be allowed to play with whatever toys they want, whatever. So Jason is playing with his toys or the toys at the play place with Anne present/involved. Jason picks up a toy truck to play with. Maybe Jas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/20 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellsocial constructs They are. We just went through this. Afterall everyone is equal and men and women are totally not born differently Again, stating the need to consider social gender and biological sex as different isn't a denial of biological sex. You misunderstood. Thats absolutely fine, it's not a super obvious distinction. Sometimes 'the feminists' (not a monolith) don't understand as well. But don't... just keep saying the thing that is wrong as if it was right. If you actually read up on t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/20 11:29 AM |
| 2 | When women complain about doing more unpaid labor, shouldn't "equality" mean women doing more paid labor as well?No problem. Thanks for being nice - its rare to get someone up for hearing other's perspective and experience on this subreddit. Seriously though, as a 'doesn't give a shit about career really' woman - I think if it works out for a woman that you find a man who you love, and he makes a load of money, and he enjoys what he does, and still has free time, and you want to not work and look after babies because thats what you enjoy... go for it. Sounds nice. But reality is complicated, life is compli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 06:09 PM |
| 2 | When women complain about doing more unpaid labor, shouldn't "equality" mean women doing more paid labor as well?I don't think there is anything wrong with being a SAHM, and rather than being a validation career bitch... I like how my job helps people, but to be honest I don't really care about working apart from that. But, ok, since you guys are always into strategy, I'll break the problems down with the 'chase the SAHM lifestyle strategy, extracting maximum from a man', and why I never coveted it: 1) 'The Gilded Cage'. By the time you start to make life decisions, most women have already come across some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 05:47 PM |
| 9 | 70% of top 1% male earners have stay-at-home spousesWouldn't everybody? Mine husband has raised in seriousness how he'd be up for being a househusband/SAHP if I earned enough money. I don't doubt that he is sincere. Its not going to happen though, because I'm not willing to pack in the job I like to be a soulless corporate shill for the megabucks any more than he is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 04:40 PM |
| 1 | When women complain about doing more unpaid labor, shouldn't "equality" mean women doing more paid labor as well?And women have comparatively increased hours. Some research like this suggests that actually once women earn more than their partners, they end up doing even more housework than women who earn the same. And data that for example in the UK suggests that the amount of leisure time that men have is increasing while the amount that women have is falling. Now don't get me wrong, it's complicated - depending on how you collect data and what aspects you're looking at, results are sometimes less strikin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 04:31 PM |
| 1 | When women complain about doing more unpaid labor, shouldn't "equality" mean women doing more paid labor as well?No one 'should' do anything, other than 'share the general workload rather than treat your partner like a slave'. It seems like you're trying to put it as 'Its the chicken and the egg! You want our egg but you're not willing to give up your chicken! Goddamn women always on the take!' But I think the point is that 'the women' (in general) said "We want to be a more active part of the paid labour force!". And society eventually came around. So women still work less hours than men overall, but a lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 01:55 PM |
| 1 | When women complain about doing more unpaid labor, shouldn't "equality" mean women doing more paid labor as well?Is the woman in the given situation working more unpaid hours? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 01:26 PM |
| 2 | When women complain about doing more unpaid labor, shouldn't "equality" mean women doing more paid labor as well?But I really don't see the end game of this talking point about how much unpaid labor Women do. Ok so then what? We give every Woman $300? I think the point is "We both work, but you don't seem to have noticed that I'm the only one doing the laundry. Could you maybe do it today K THNX." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 01:21 PM |
| 5 | When women complain about doing more unpaid labor, shouldn't "equality" mean women doing more paid labor as well?so his question still stands for all of the households where the men are putting in so many more hours at work I don't think those are the households the 'complainers' are talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 01:13 PM |
| 1 | When women complain about doing more unpaid labor, shouldn't "equality" mean women doing more paid labor as well?Or is there some missing piece of the equality equation here? Yes. They're talking about how women do more unpaid labour even when they are doing similar hours or more hours of paid labour as men. Basically: In response to Shouldn't women do more hours of paid labor? They're saying "How come the amount of paid labour we do seems to have little bearing on whether you expect us to do the vast majority of childcare and housework? We want to share both of these out more, and you seem to be getting c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 01:10 PM |
| 0 | FDS isn’t good dating adviceYou're right. In terms of... its not good dating advice. Neither is TRP. Both are bizarre nonsense with the odd nugget of common sense slipped in, by people who can't sleep at night with worry they won't 'win at life'. In that it encourages woman to become valuable by their own standards rather than by the standards of the men they are trying to date. That part is both good and bad advice. You should strive to be a person of value, in the ways that you think a person has true value. And look for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellThis is the part us anti feminists love as we just quote you feminists and you feminists then make the best mental gymnastics ever! So to use this as an example of what I'm getting at in my last post: You're saying I'm doing mental gymnastics to keep my position in the face of reality. Ok, gotcha. But it certainly seems to me like we should consider how people are looked at in the 'environment' (language, images, etc.) - and how this makes them see themselves and others - as maybe related to why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellMaybe there is hope for you yet! As this is what you and feminism does. Now if only you can look at differences in brain makeup and what have you may we possible start some real progress with you realizing feminism isn't always right like you clearly think it is. Mate, this response to what I said.... When 'The Blue Pill' and 'The Feminists' sarcastically shout "BIOTROOFS!" to mock the TRPers and alt-right anti-feminists and what-have-you, its not because they're making fun of their silly notion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 08:13 AM |
| 0 | A few days late but still lmaooA woman can change her weight. A man cannot change his height. BRRRRRRRRN Correct Answer (following "So much hate" comment): "They should not do that. Both those things are not OK. Let us in general not refer to other humans as disgusting based on their physical appearance. Even if we feel disgust. It is cruel." Better luck next time! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Rip my inbox lmaoCarlos Mencia I mean, I'm not in the US, so I can't pretend to be finger on the pulse if you're talking about there. But I was absolutely someone who hang around the internet reading meme-y (pre meme?) shit around the time wikipedia says he was big, and... no recollection. But whatever. If someone treats a woman with kid gloves just because they are a woman, then obviously they feel women are the inferior sex. The thing is, I don't mean "LEAVE AMY SCHUMER ALONE!". I do hope she is Ok or whatever… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Rip my inbox lmaoNo. But thats why I raised her. She is an example of a comedian who gets... like, SHOCKING hate. I swear to god, especially a couple of years ago when she was just getting noticed (interestingly before people started talking about her stealing jokes), I could be somewhere on the internet where people were discussing doughnut fillings. And someone would say something like "I hate chocolate filled, but not as much as I hate Amy Schumer" and then it would turn into a conversation about how revoltin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 08:11 PM |
| 1 | So privileged!I managed to game the system. I pay out of my paycheck for state services that are of benefit to other people's kids. I don't mind doing that. But also, my paycheck comes from the state, for a service I provide for the benefit of other people's kids. When I go to the shop in a second, I might get some beers with the rest of my paycheck. So let's say you (random TRPers reading this) don't have kids, and are sick to death of having to pay money that goes towards feeding and sheltering and educatin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 03:09 PM |
| 3 | So privileged!I mean... in these cases irrc the kids were all like age two plus when the mother left. You'd give a five year old who sees you as his/her parent up for adoption (to people who don't want five year olds, so.... foster care) because you don't want to take state handouts? Thats some cold shit, man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 02:37 PM |
| 2 | So privileged!Like, not an argument that it happens 'all the time', but: I once worked with not one, or two, but three families where the mother fucked off and the kids were being raised by a father in supported housing. At the same time. Two of them (the kids) were in the same class, in fact. One of them the mother had disappeared into the ether, but the other two had to pay child support after being instructed to by the court. It happens. You too can live supported on a shitty housing estate, trying to keep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 02:14 PM |
| 2 | What a fucking joke.That whole bodily autonomy kicker is too bad for you guys, but gotta pedant: Father (if he is known) has got to be ok with 'giving the child to the state' same as mother. If you have a baby with someone and she changes her mind but you want it - she can't give it up, it's 'yours' (plus could then force her to pay child support). You might not want to. But you could (in most places laws vary). Also, you have the god given right to choose to be offended by whatever you so wish, guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 02:03 PM |
| 3 | I LOVE the PurgeThis makes total sense. As well as something I wouldn't normally explicitly think about but also... well, knew. And to give the flipped woman/man perspective - same. Personally - as long as the dude is looking for the clit and willing to take direction, can't fault that. It's when they clearly don't even give a shit thats really the problem. It's only fair that I expect them to hold my technique to the same standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 09:54 AM |
| 1 | 6/6/6/...7?Cool. TIL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellYou basically did though and since when did you feminists say non whites can be racist? Didn't. Also - never heard feminists say non-white people can't be racist. In fact, people who frequently experience racism can also be super racist themselves. It's a thing. I do see where you getting at with the "FEMINISTS DON'T SAY THAT!" in one respect: Some people argue that when say for an african american against a white american 'isn't racism', because of the lack of systemic racism there. They'd just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/20 08:58 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill is a fucking cult AKA 'Not Most Men'Woman: "All men are rapists and want to torture little girls" How many women do you know who say this? Did you used to be bffs with Andrea Dworkin or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 09:40 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill is a fucking cult AKA 'Not Most Men'So you must be wrong about their nature, then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 09:27 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill is a fucking cult AKA 'Not Most Men'But if you're so right about women's nature, why are you so wrong about women's behaviour? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill is a fucking cult AKA 'Not Most Men'Its gonna fall off the edge of the world unnoticed anyway. Chill out. At least this way the next time one of them goes full spree, I can sleep soundly and/or get shot knowing I tried to leave a tiny off ramp on the delusional maniac spiral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 09:20 PM |
| 2 | 6/6/6/...7?You have a need to constructive a narrative where men who hit on women are assholes, because otherwise complaining about men that dare show interest in women might make you look like the asshole. Honestly, and I don't say this sarcastically or intending for you to feel patronised, so sorry if you do - your naivety about what these men are doing is quite sweet. Maybe you don't see the point in approaching women to express interest unless its to try and make a connection for a date/sex/etc. becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 07:39 PM |
| 4 | Sorry ladies, you aren’t entitled to men’s commitmentYou’re not entitled to our time, resources, energy, or exclusivity. WHAT?!?! I WAS DISTINCTLY UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU MUST GIVE ME THESE THINGS! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 06:23 PM |
| 7 | Purple Pill ain't neutral at allYes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Male Age ProgressionI don't know if the 'penile erosion' thing is already a thing outside of this subreddit yet.... But it absolutely should be. This must be made a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 06:17 PM |
| 1 | 6/6/6/...7?Do you really think that because he did it from a car, he couldn't have possibly been genuine? Yes. Ok. There is a 0.01% chance that this was a genuine 'dating approach' rather than a power tripping sex pest. Happy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 06:14 PM |
| 1 | 6/6/6/...7?"I don't like to do this because it insults people but here I am doing it anyway" Bro, I was like "I don't consider nerdy introvert an insult, just do you even outside because REALLY?" Because..... REALLY!?!? Try harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 05:54 PM |
| 3 | 6/6/6/...7?I love public transportation, but mostly cause of the people watching aspect. I was just saying to someone how much I miss people watching. Its strange because I'm not a fan of too much noise and crowds - after about half an hour on a busy high street I want to hide away, for example. But I was feeling something, like I want to be outside. I'd just been out for my "government permitted walking exercise". Then I realised its not the outside, its... hustle bustle of people going about their busine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 05:42 PM |
| 2 | 6/6/6/...7?1) They sell burner phones at gas stations even. Like everyone already told you drug dealers use them and so do people who have no use for posting pics of their ass on instagram like yourself. 3210s? Not in the UK... Cheap ass top up non-smart phones, yeah. But not 3210s. But apparently you can still get them on ebay, so there you go, my mistake. My and my friends original reaction was based on not having seen that model in a while, though. You are judging him based on how expensive his phone is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 05:23 PM |
| 2 | 6/6/6/...7?Thanks again for further insight into the mind of a hypergamous female. Chapter #2; crazy female delusion. Catcalling from vehicles, do you honestly think... Look, I don't normally like to make "basement dwelling teenage nerd" comments, because it's mean, and honestly insulting to teenage nerds in basements. But.... have you been around outdoors amongst daily life much? No, no. I'm sure the gentleman in the car saw the potential for a nice romantic/sexual experience with my friend, and his inten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 05:11 PM |
| 0 | 6/6/6/...7?No. I associate buying throwaway phones with criminal activity. Of course maybe he just had that phone for other reasons - my hipster comment was a little bit of facetious kidding around. The 'making fun of poor people' comment is pretty funny in context of the friend/group I'm talking about, but I can't really go into that too much. To explain the joke, though, because you seem to think its about SMV or some shit: The intended humour in my friend's anecdote was the switch in her focus during th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 04:55 PM |
| 2 | 6/6/6/...7?Never heard of Ebay? Maybe it is the remake. Nah. As I said, we were that generation. We all had or pined after 3210s. My friend would be able to tell the difference between the real deal and that monstrous attempt to reclaim the glory days. It does seem you can buy them on Ebay. Presumably people just... find them in their desk draw or whatever. TIL. As someone said, it was probably a burner. Or maybe he was just a hipster who really appreciates late 90s classic phone design, and I am entirely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 03:45 PM |
| 3 | 6/6/6/...7?Can you still get 3210s to use as burner phones? Because that certainly seems an explanation. But even then... do Nokia still make those? You destroy burners, you'd think they'd run out pretty fast. Is it like... counterfeit 3210s that people use as burners? Also while I am an upstanding member of society and try to avoid association with criminals, I am from a place that is not entirely without... some drug complications. It seems like if dealers having 3210s was a thing, that would be a thing?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshell"Only whites are racists" You put that in quotes like I said it, but I never did. Absolutely people who aren't white can be racist. I've seen minority groups be super racist to each other, for example. And people can be racist against white people (as in, judge them or be cruel to them or whatever because they don't like white people). However, the systemic racism that, for example, impacts black americans is different. Because - systemic. Not because white people are bad. Or worse than black pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 03:08 PM |
| 10 | 6/6/6/...7?Not long ago (but pre-lockdown), a friend of mine was telling me about a cat-calling experience she'd just had. The classic "Hey Hey Gorgeous.... Hey Baby..... Gimme your number... DON'T BE A RUDE BITCH" type. There were three take-aways from the experience she raised: 1) She is in her early 30s and is married with kids. Think she said she had the buggy with her, in fact. Actually that point is mainly for your information - basically to point out that this guy's 'pretty little street ho' radar w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellWhich at this point is nothing but a generalization and is about luping all whites or men in a single group. There is no context. Its about generalizing and treating whites and men as a monolith. That is very clear. Look. 'White privilege' exists to try and understand racism so we can stop people experiencing racism. It acknowledges how white people aren't going to notice systemic racism against black people all that much unless its super obvious (which is the 'privilege' referred to). Social ph… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 09:17 AM |
| 1 | Men's Comments on Here are Proof Women Still need Feminism to some ExtentI clicked on that article because I was interested... and basically it just says "Don't be too secure just because you're knowledge industry.... but yeah there is also reason to believe that they'd be fine for a while". Women sure as hell wouldn't be the ones to get down and dirty servicing automated equipment and installing duct work lol Wouldn't they? It's not like women have never done dirty work and operated machinery before? In agriculture, during the industrial revolution, during the secon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Men's Comments on Here are Proof Women Still need Feminism to some ExtentThe trade jobs that men do: electrician, plumber, bricklayer, joiner etc. are jobs that women simply cannot/will not do, and these are jobs which simply cannot be automated Funnily enough, I've come across and heard of multiple female plumbers recently. And just before lockdown I was talking to my mum, and she was like "We called the electricians, and a woman showed up! Weird, I suppose why not, I just wasn't expecting it..." Maybe its just a local thing near me, but there definitely seems to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 03:59 PM |
| 3 | "Leftist" womenThey are - if you hold women's sexual agency in the same regard you do that of an inanimate object (such as the room a person would sleep in). And therein lies the issue with the incel worldview. Its like.... People who can't see the difference between the statements: "If someone is hungry, and someone else has more food than they can eat, it should be morally expected of the person with plentiful food to give some of theirs, even if they worked to possess it." and "If someone is hungry, and som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 01:44 PM |
| 1 | "Leftist" womenNo. It is absolutely what Republicans do all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 01:25 PM |
| 0 | Seriously thoTLDR: I care if you're sad. I don't really care about why you're sad - I assume it's just one of the personally relevant bullshit reasons people get sad sometimes. Thats the way that men feel about women's problems too. In fact just people-people in general. So I don't know why this is surprising to anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 01:06 PM |
| 1 | Seriously thoI don't know how we manage it. Maybe vaginal discharge is magic. But seriously guys: Talk about your feelings. It's good for you. It's not because it gets us hot to watch you cry. We'd rather patiently pretend to care about how it still bothers you that you didn't get picked for the football team when you were 9 and all your problems come from that, than have you kill yourselves or drink yourself to death. We do care enough to prefer you not kill yourselves. It's only the same shit you've been d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 12:04 PM |
| 11 | Men's Comments on Here are Proof Women Still need Feminism to some ExtentGet out of this subreddit with your reasonable opinions and rational arguments! Smug apocalyptic predictions about the fall of women's rights are the logical person thing to say! As AI gets more intelligent the high paying office jobs, that demand brain power will be the last ones to go. So much this. For some reason this seems to confuse people, but it looks the much more likely outcome of technological progression. Considering it has been the outcome of the very same progression since the indu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellbecause so much of it is from academia which is so far removed from reality its not funny Academia is useful. Because the world is really complicated and sometimes counter-intuitive, and we need ways to take a step back and understand it. A set of journal papers discussing at great length back and forth whether 'The Language of Privilege' is fit for purpose or counterproductive in light of changing social discourse, can seem totally ridiculous and masturbatory as a response the question "Can I p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 08:40 AM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellYou don't need to be oppressed to not have privilege. You do. In this context. The one people are talking about when they say 'white privilege' 'male privilege' etc. Not in the more general non-sociological term of 'privilege', aka 'holistically as an individual, you have been more lucky in life than most'. But that is a different kind of privilege. where I live I am a minority as a white person 'Minority' being another word that has different contextual meanings. It can mean a numerical minorit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 07:50 AM |
| 0 | Rip my inbox lmao"Isn't it weird how sometimes women are like REEEEEE and you're like WOOOOOO. Am'rite!?!?!" Hahahahahahaha Seriously though, comedy can be great. Transcendent, event. But most comedy is shit and anyone who denies it is a fucking idiot. Personally, I love a good tampon joke. Its a break from the non-tampon-related "Do you ever get annoyed by people HAHAHAHA". If you're going to flood me with boring pedestrian shit, at least a menstrual cycle based but of pedestrian shit is a bit different. But no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/20 10:50 PM |
| 4 | Are Black Pill Feminists the most based gfs?Sorry. But remember, the safe word is "Patriarchy". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/20 05:42 PM |
| 6 | Are Black Pill Feminists the most based gfs?Black Pill Feminists are basically millennial lesbian separatists. Thats not even me having a go, because lesbian separatism doesn't really seem to be a thing anymore, so I dunno what you're supposed to do about that. Dystopian anti-natalist worldview makes for fun movie nights, probably likes Blade Runner and Black Mirror This reminds me of when I'd date guys and they'd be all Wait - you think Bob Dylan is OK and have seen Clerks? Don't tell me you also like ice cream and puppies!?!? We're obvi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/20 05:23 PM |
| 3 | Seriously thoIf you're a man that expressed his feelings, and then you're like "YOU SAID EXPRESS YOUR FEELINGS, BUT YOU DON'T SEEM TO CARE WHY I'M SAD!!!!": Think about the last time your wife/gf/sister/whatever was crying. Maybe you said "Oh don't be sad!", and did want her not to be sad. Maybe instead you went and got your favourite spear to guard the door, to do your manly man job protecting the defenceless emotional women from the bears. Try and remember how much you actually cared about what she was cry… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/20 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellAnd you know that how? Because if the barrier you'd have to overcome is "The barrier that specifically black people face for being black in that circumstance", and you're not black - by very definition you're not going to experience it. You might experience a barrier for other reasons, but not related to being black. It seems 'well that is just tautological!'. You're correct - it's a word describing a social phenomena, which explicitly acknowledges that phenomena as being dependent on an oppress… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/20 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellLike I thought, you're as hypocritical as any SJW is... Thanks for your answer You guys complain about how women communicate, but this is one of the most bitchily passive aggressive things I've ever read. "Thanks for confirming all the things I already knew to be true. I'll file this one in the self-righteous spunk bank. wink" You are playing the gatekeeper of the Temple of Suffering and you get to say who suffer and who don't Actual opposite of what I said. Words have contextual meaning. "Privi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 10:13 PM |
| 1 | The Blackpill is a good thing, so why do normies get upset over it?On top of that you have all the gaslighting and hate that incels are getting in life. Especially since it's mostly a male issue and men don't get sympathy and compassions in life when they struggle. I've tried multiple times to reach out to people holding the 'black pill' and 'incel' mentality, to provide compassion and support. I've repeatedly been knocked back with "But if you aren't going to fuck me, why should I care?" They wonder why I don't get that women's support is meaningless unless it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 09:55 PM |
| 8 | >PPD Women0/10. No Pegging. Could not fap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 08:09 PM |
| 3 | Americans, how do you even have an SMP at all when you’re too stupid and fat?Bro, I’ve lived in the EU. So did I. Until 52% of people who could be bothered to go to the polls, a minority of my country men and women, decided I wasn't going to live in the EU anymore. I never went anywhere or did anything, apart from state that I wanted to keep living in the EU. And my being in the EU was removed. It's kind of... existentially disconcerting, actually. Populist cunts then try and flag wave about being 'The ones who care about what the people actually want!", while never even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellThank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Feminism in a nutshellI think maybe I'm going to have to start putting this in a Word document: "Privilege" refers to - and this isn't a definition I'm pulling out - but the best way I've found to understand it: Not experiencing a particular type of oppression - having the 'privilege' of not having to overcome a particular hurdle. So take for example a black person who is talking about finding it difficult to find a mentor as a budding lawyer (and for the sake of argument you need one), because all the lawyers seem t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Feminism in a nutshellThat isn't what intersectional means, though? As in... based on what I've seen at least, us ol' handwringing white feminist types tend to be very concerned about the "Black men are seen as aggressive and violent as a compounding of toxic masculine and racist stereotypes" thing. While also thinking the patriarchy is a thing and black women experience sexism and racism from inside and out of their community. Of course there are a good number of feminists who'll proudly wear their "I fight oppressi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 04:24 PM |
| 2 | View: purge week shows what people are really thinking when you don't censor opinionsI like purge week because: I can go full snark without the comment getting removed. When people are in free-flow its a lot easier to see what they're actually getting at. Rather than couching it in some sort attempt at 'high level reasoned debate' that doesn't make any sense. I'd much rather someone make a thread that is just "WOMEN DATING TALL MEN MAKES ME NOT LIKE THEM!!! meme meme" than sift through a load of nonsense that boils down to a (very) convoluted attempt to justify that not liking w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys ever notice how FDS automatically assumes the worst of men who are considered unattractive?Do women actually believe this is what will happen to most ugly men? FDS is not an accurate reflection of what women actually think. Its basically how edge-lord 14 year old girls talk. "I'm gonna marry an old rich man and get myself the $$$$$$, then fuck the pool boy and just live in luxury. It's just how the world works, yo! Game the system!" Then you look them up on facebook 15 years later, and they have a masters degree and make the same amount as the middle of the road husband they're gazing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 03:56 PM |
| 1 | The future is female indeedNo... I know that. I know what 'net' means. I'll try and say it clearly: If women of a certain age significantly out earn men, they would have a higher net contribution, unless that group was also USING much more taxes during the same life period. I'm struggling to see what state resources a young woman with a well paying job and no dependents would be using that would cost so much more than an equivalent man her age? And if that is not what this group is doing... why do people keep saying it is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 03:43 PM |
| 3 | The Blackpill is a good thing, so why do normies get upset over it?It comes down to that "I feel like a cog in the machine that no one really cares about, I'm under-appreciated and my very important thoughts ignored. I'll kill some people and then they'll see how special and powerful I am." meets your bog-standard existential crises. Mainly they didn't used to blame women for the terrifying nothingness of the eternal void, and think the cure is grateful pussy, though. Like, I don't think my vagina can fix feelings of existential horror. It certainly isn't doing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 03:29 PM |
| 2 | Feminism in a nutshellOnce you start saying "men are also harmed by patriarchy" and "women also enforce it and benefit from it", you're no longer talking about a patriarchy, and are instead talking about class. I... no. Thats not what that means. I get what you're saying, I think. But you're over-simplifying it to the point that it doesn't mean that anymore. The rest of your post makes sense if you compare hyper-capitalist 'lean in feminists' to 'socialists' as a group. But as I'm sure you are aware, those do not rep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 03:13 PM |
| 1 | The future is female indeedI don't understand why you've put two sums that work out with different net values when the graph shows young men and women to have the same net values. I suppose its possible that with most of the young women and young men with all the identical 'net cost/contribution' data points, the women are earning a load more but also costing a load more, if thats what you're getting at. I'm not entirely sure why though. No way to know from the graph. Of course the rest of it is really fucking obvious (Wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Most men on PPD think ONLY 'Chads' treat women badly.How is a study that explicitly talks about how social learning is important in figuring out who to date, because figuring out how to date is hard, evidence for a bottom-up strategic super computer idea of dating? And not, like, against it? People look at the world around them and figure things out/copy other people because they don't have an infallible bank of expertise on the right thing to do? You're fucking kidding me. Did you link me the wrong study? As an aside: I get why its important to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 01:30 PM |
| 17 | Feminism in a nutshellTRP doesn't believe working class women exist. There are only 'welfare queens' reclining on a chez long and middle management Karens. All those care, nursing, cleaning and service jobs just... magically do themselves. And that man would never utilise them. It is known. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 12:46 PM |
| 3 | The Blackpill is a good thing, so why do normies get upset over it?Did men really expect women to be so virtuous that they would endure sleeping with men they don't find attractive just to stop sexually frustrated spree shooters??? Plus, I'm going to go ahead and suggest that someone who thinks gunning down a load of people is a logical and sensible reaction to their life being shit is maybe not going to be magically turned into a normie by the odd pity fuck? Incels think they invented going postal. It's cute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Most men on PPD think ONLY 'Chads' treat women badly.Replace 'cocaine' with gambling. Or candy. Or even sex. You can be a gambling addict and know gambling is a bad idea. Your lizard brain is making you head towards that slot machine, even though you know it's probably going to just take all your money. Maybe you go and you try to justify it to yourself. Maybe you knuckle down, think about how that money is to send your kids to college, and that higher long term thinking makes you change your mind, and you feel good about yourself and happy (base … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 12:16 PM |
| 2 | Feminism in a nutshellThey would, but they're pretty tired because they're on the way back from a busy day of wiping shit off that guy's infirm grandmother's ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 11:47 AM |
| 2 | The future is female indeedI meant because saying that seems to be the new and trendy "Gender pay differences are not a problem" line. And if it was really a massive 'thing', the line for the young women would be higher than the line for young men (unless the graph is shit). But it's not. Obviously young women could earn more and it just not be significant enough to change the line on the graph. But the 'not be significant enough' part is kind of my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Most men on PPD think ONLY 'Chads' treat women badly.Yes evolution is incredible, and we've evolved to be these amazing complex adaptable beings. But we're not strategically perfect by a long shot. And we've also, you know, evolved to learn and base our decisions on that learning. Thats why we're so cool. If we made our decisions based purely on base genetically programmed stimulus --> response information, we'd be a lot less awesome, and we'd have failed at this whole society thing a lot more than we have. Our adaptions work great, but they're no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 11:30 AM |
| 1 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsUnfortunately, the vast majority of fat people do have some kind of issue that makes and keeps them fat (usually either mental health issues or just a lack of self-discipline). We all have issues. Or the vast majority of us do. We all eat food, have foods we enjoy and we don't like. But for some people, these things mean being overweight. It seems like people point at and judge those issues/difficulties in particular, pretending they and other people don't have them, and couch it in 'but their h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 09:08 AM |
| 0 | The future is female indeedWait.... wait.... I thought that now young women out-earn young men, because they'd taken all the good jobs through affirmative action hiring? Whose ranting bullshit am I to believe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 07:28 AM |
| 1 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsIn terms of fat people, honestly, maybe a bit of shame would be a good then. Ultimately, it's very bad for their health. If they were shamed more, maybe they'd be encouraged to lose weight. They would then have a longer and healthier life. Yeah - doesn't work. Changing ingrained lifestyle and behaviour habits can be very difficult, and shame is a terrible motivator. Just the way it is. It makes sense if you think about it. You've got these habits, patterns and coping mechanisms, like we all do. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 07:14 AM |
| 3 | Lizzo is fucking disgustingI don't know anything about her other than that she is a fat black woman and that some people really hate her. I don't see why people can't just... ignore her. And Amy Schumer. I've not seen much Amy Schumer stuff but I remember her Sorkin Show parody skit that was pretty spot on. Anyway, people exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Men, go big or go MGTOW.OK so even if there is absolutely zero racial prejudice in hiring/the police/etc. anymore (there absolutely is, but whatever)... Why is there that culture? Is there something inherent in black americans that makes them form a culture different to white americans, that is based on distrust of authority? Or is it some kind of response to... something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 06:17 PM |
| 0 | PSA: there are over 600 threads over at /r/blackpillscienceAnd I'm not going to lie, I had to adjust the picture a few times based on what puzzles were available. Thats good. Thats how learning should work. Keep doing that. I was going to go through some of the stuff you're saying and give different explanations... but you seem to get that, and you seem to get that the things you listed are just some of many pieces of research we have on men and women and humans in general. So there would be no point. I always thought it was funny though how people will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Men, go big or go MGTOW.raised if the people you live among will deny you access based solely on your skin color People can do a thing. Doesn't mean it's as easy for them to do a thing. Any person is allowed to make a successful business. There is no secret cabal of most white people trying to prevent any black person ever being powerful (since the KKK is mainly just hick larping these days). Whats your explanation for statistical differences in say prison population/professions/wealth, etc? Can't be genetic difference… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 04:32 PM |
| 7 | Most men on PPD think ONLY 'Chads' treat women badly.The RP'ers who think that women are perfectly strategic genetic-mating super-computers. Women are either diabolically evil or too dumb to tie their shoelaces. Anything in between would be in the 'conscious human person' range and they can't quite get their noggins around that one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 04:23 PM |
| 0 | PSA: there are over 600 threads over at /r/blackpillsciencemy point must be true because there are literally hundreds of studies supporting it Which point? 'The Black Pill'? Is the black pill a theory? A hypothesis within a theory? A perspective? A theory within a perspective? Who's 'black pill'? Yours? That guy's? Saying you have collated a load of studies about 'your point' isn't impressive. Because I'm going to go ahead and assume most of them don't mention 'the black pill' directly. They're studies that you and others have found, that you or they th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Men, go big or go MGTOW.People who were raised and developed in a completely different society have different outcomes? Who'd have thought it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 03:00 PM |
| 1 | PSA: there are over 600 threads over at /r/blackpillscienceNo I mean... you can be like "I have a point! My point must be true because this study I found had a conclusion that would be true within my point [or also a load of other points I'll just pretend don't exist or just dismiss because I don't like them]!" and think that you're doing science. If you don't really understand how science works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 01:24 PM |
| 2 | PSA: there are over 600 threads over at /r/blackpillscienceAnd I've submitted essays I've researched and written in the 3 hours before the deadline containing reams of studies and referenced theories that technically supported my points. Doesn't mean they were the word of god truth. Or anything other than desperate attempts to meet the word count that were rightfully panned by the teacher for being conjectural uncritical poorly thought out pieces of shit. "BUT MY HYPOTHESIS CONTAINS THE WORD EVOLUTION! Are you denying the theory of evolution!?!?! I bet … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 01:10 PM |
| 1 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsI actually do kind of get the whole incel "But if what I really want is a sexual partner, your words about how that isn't the only thing in life are pretty meaningless and insulting, your compassion means nothing to me" bit we're touching on here. If you really really desperately want to have sex, and people are saying and doing things but they aren't fucking you, it must all seems a bit pointless. The problem is the false equivalency, which this is providing a good example of. You can't insist … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 12:23 PM |
| 1 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsAttraction ain't equal opportunity and y'all SJWs haven't figured that shit out. I think they have, mate. Thats why DiCaprio gets a 'such a cliché' eye roll rather than 'he wants to fuck underwear models? I am SHOCKED!'. They tend to be more about believing that a woman's (or man's as well, as Jameela helpfully pointed out) conventional sexual attractiveness shouldn't be held as a signifier of their worth, and that more conventionally attractive people shouldn't be snotty to less so because "I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 10:29 AM |
| 1 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsShe should have at least a few short boyfriends in her past. Maybe she has I dunno? My husband is an inch taller than me, but I've dated men who were significantly shorter than me and those who were a lot taller in my past. Maybe that isn't 'average', but who knows if Jameela is? In my experience taller women such as myself and this actress actually tend to be less particular about height - because you've been forced to get over the 'women have to be the little dainty ones' by walking around eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 09:40 AM |
| 0 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsWe've had a phrase for this since forever: "Practice what you preach." But she said: "You shouldn't judge and shame men for their height." She didn't say: "You shouldn't judge and shame men for their height - you should only sleep with short men." 1) We don't know if she has any sexual preference about height. My husband is an inch taller than me, but I've dated both shorter and taller men. Maybe her boyfriend just happens to be tall, but she is equally up for short men. Maybe you guys are compl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/20 08:17 AM |
| 3 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsSo what? The fact she has a tall boyfriend doesn't make her a hypocrite necessarily. Unless she sleeps with exclusively men under 5'6 for the rest of her life, certain people will insist she is a 'hypocrite' for speaking out against body shaming men. Because women's words mean nothing, and their only actions that mean anything are those they carry out with their pussies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 09:45 PM |
| -1 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsI'm pretty tall as well. It's nice to be able to reach high up things. I don't see what that has to do with an actress telling people it isn't OK to judge men for being short, though. Unless that talk show bit carries on "... after a long day of spitting on men and calling them short cunts, because of course I would never consider a short man worthy of my vagina". I know purge week and shit so its all a bit OTT, but seriously the serious comments here are priceless. I hope Jameela goes on to dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 09:14 PM |
| 3 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsI mean... the famous actress/model might have sex with you. It's possible. But you probably won't be having sex with her. Mainly not because you're short, or even because you like TRP, but because she is a famous actress lady and I'd imagine moves in different circles and would find you showing up to ask her for sex disconcerting. So I wouldn't bother, if I was you. The DiCaprio thing is funny. Because the 'he spends his free time on yachts with Victoria's Secret models' is always spoken about s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 08:58 PM |
| 0 | Men, go big or go MGTOW."But asian people do better than whites! Checkmate liberal!" is the worst argument against systemic racism ever. As if somehow an acknowledgement that asian-americans might be better than you is a surefire way to prove that you are not racist, and therefore if you think a thing, it cannot possibly be a racist thing. Because it not only doesn't prove anything other than white supremacy not be correct, it's surely just more evidence that likely social factors impact upon the likelihood of a person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Men, go big or go MGTOW.Tell me, oh great master of the human condition, how economic systems do not impact upon the wider social functioning and the psyche of those living within them. Because that certainly sounds like a probable thing that also you could know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Just a friendly reminder from our sponsors - CCPBut this is a Coronavirus. We already have a name for Coronavirus. It's Coronavirus. Either way, calling it Chinese flu because "FUCK CHINA!!!" is dumb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Women like to pretend that men are just as shallow as they areI told you I liked the gamers thing, didn't I? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 07:05 PM |
| 10 | This is like DiCaprio saying older women are beautiful and interesting and then fucking 19 year oldsTRP: "Why don't women care about how men are judged and shamed for their height? We're expected not to 'body shame' them, but you would never see a feminist caring about height-shaming." Attractive Feminist TV Lady: "I think shaming men for their height is wrong! Let's all not shame men for their height." TRP: "Aaaaaah sex?" TV Lady: "Nah I have a boyfriend" TRP: "Is he short?" TV Lady: "No" TRP: "LYING HYPOCRITICAL BITCH WHORE. WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO US AND HIGHLIGHT AN ISSUE … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 06:12 PM |
| 3 | Why are so many men angry at WOMEN because attractive men choose to be indiscriminate and sleep with “unattractive” women?Because women should understand that not giving them affection for stupid reasons like 'I don't want to' is mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Most of you just need to get outsideI was going to upvote this for being good trolling but now I'm not 100% sure if you are, and that is just making me sad. (About not being allowed to go outside.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 05:38 PM |
| 2 | Women like to pretend that men are just as shallow as they areAh OK, so less with the sheltered more with the idiot, then. Though I mean, as far as I know you've still only met 5 people. I was going to say "What have you never met a really arrogant man?" and then you posted this and.... ooooh. OK. Got it. religious fundamentalists, dieharrd capitalist, proud communists, to gamers. I did really like how you listed 'gamers' as if it were a religious or political ideology. That was fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Women like to pretend that men are just as shallow as they areEdit: putting it where you originally posted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 05:13 PM |
| 5 | Just a friendly reminder from our sponsors - CCP1) Calling it Chinese Flu is fucking stupid. 2) Because its less flu than some other non flu things aren't flu. 3) We don't normally name viruses based on where they're from. 4) Giving it weird political conspiracy names doesn't help with how deranged people are already being. 5) Yes China is on some shady shit, both about how they dealt with sharing information on COVID at the very least, and just in general. 6) Donald Trump is a crazy moron. 7) China being shady as fuck and Donald Trump being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.I'm simply saying I've often seen women choose sociopaths because of traits like confidence and charisma, over shy men who have all of the other qualities they say they want. Yeah, because they're won over by the charm and charisma. Which are attractive. It doesn't mean they don't also want the other qualities in men, and not that they don't find those other qualities attractive in men. But we've been through that, I think we're pretty much on the same page now on that. Women are the most elite … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 03:38 PM |
| 3 | Men, go big or go MGTOW.I know "If the MGTOW actually went away instead of just ranting about women on the internet..." is kind of passé at this point. But that. And I actually mean it positively. If staying in mixed society and interacting with women apart from a bare minimum just means you're going to cry about never experiencing being a 20 year old alpha Chad, and the constant fear of paying child support keeps you up at night and feels far far more important than any positive of having them... Maybe do just go and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 02:13 PM |
| 2 | Men, go big or go MGTOW.Yeah. Look, I don't hate the US and I'm not some kind of "Stalin was just trying his best, imperial forces.." tankie, and I don't have all the answers. But the reliance on the unwavering cultural acceptance of hard free-market capitalism is clearly the route of the majority of these problems. Just read half the shit on The Red Pill: "Men have worth only as providers, so if you're not providing you might as well be dead. Women might be fundamentally useless in most respects but at least they get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.I was going to edit this in but better to write another reply: For clarity, but also to show I'm not weaselling around to argue you're wrong: Confidence and charisma are more important than loyalty and generosity, in terms of just getting more people to be attracted to you. Both because the former tend to become obvious faster, but also tend to make a faster and deeper 'impact' than witnessing say a small act of generosity. In retrospect, maybe I've been ignoring that a bit when I've been going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.For instance, I've know charismatic entrepreneur types who have reputations for being narcissistic, unfaithful, etc... Yet, there would never be a shortage of women who adore them because it seems the attraction to the confidence and charisma outweighs the fear of many other negative traits. Charisma is definitely a positive trait, in romantic/sexual attraction but also 'platonic attraction' (if someone says a performa has 'charisma' it means 'that extra something that makes their presentation e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/20 12:25 PM |
| 2 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?A bit too many Freudian vibes/Mindhunter vibes for me with the whole "Mother is Goddess" thing. And I've always heard the 'girls/boys have cooties' phase as being likely related to 'baby's first social identity' more than anything. But I dunno, maybe. It does feel like there must be something in the idea that some men feel women have power over them in terms of the comfort they offer (which no doubt started with their mother), so they display hatred for women acting in ways they don't like out o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 06:43 PM |
| 1 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?I don't know... "I know you, I swear I know you, come and sit at my table", coming on very strong, talking about how she has fucked the other random guy what came out and then trying to use that as a way to get into your pants... smacks of the unhinged and wasted to me. Maybe she was one of those normal-ish people who completely loses it when they get a few drinks in them, at a pinch. I think she was definitely coming on to you, yeah. Both with the bizarre attempts at some kind of... negging or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 06:06 PM |
| 0 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?What makes you think I took her seriously? It makes me feel kinda warm and fuzzy inside thinking about her coming to terms with the fact that she’s overweight and middle aged and a rude cunt. So much so that she can just offer herself up and still get rejected. Which Id assume getting rejected by a guy as average as myself has to add a bit of insult to it. Mate, it sounds like she was - to put it harshly and impolitely about the poor woman - a crazy person. You tend to get them in pubs, out of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 05:55 PM |
| 1 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?She again says she hates how right I am and acts impressed telling my friend I know things. I've seen Red Pill "And then the woman admitted it was all true, how could she have ever let herself be deceived by feminazi propaganda into going against her own nature, and everyone stood up and clapped" style stories before. But I don't think I've ever seen one where the antagonist is an early 40s racist drunk woman alone in a pub at 11pm, accosting strange young men in order to randomly start telling … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Sex and sexuality doesn't have to be fair, logical, or consistent: no one owes anyone anythingAccording to OP’s logic, murder, rape and such is not only okay...but good. Erm.... what? How did you get from "Who really cares if people are hypocrites in relationships as long as the people they're in relationships with are free to leave" to "murder is a good thing"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 05:38 PM |
| 1 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?Dude most women in normie life want to have a boyfriend and a husband and children regardless of what the radical feminists say. Hell im my neighborhood alone most women here hate feminism and think it is just manhatred, packaged neatly. Lewis' law all over. If people think that 'feminism says I shouldn't have a boyfriend', or that criticising social expectations is somehow incompatible with 'having a normal life', clearly feminism is still very much required. I shall make sure to tell the siste… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 05:13 PM |
| 1 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?I do? I tend to go mainly to the ones I like, though I do try and vary and find new places with new people. I don't hate read posts on them I've been linked to from groups of people also hate reading, though. Honestly, I'm actually inclined to agree with u/resolutions316 in a lot of senses - I think that there can be venting in those places sometimes (which is quite clearly venting I think, but I suppose thats not necessarily obvious to all, especially those already suspicious of the people spea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 01:16 PM |
| 7 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?“Throw the whole man away” is literally a meme comment on every relationship post. I've never seen this, but then I don't read relationship posts. (Because they're normally people who know what they need to do, writing things in such a way to get the answers they want to get validation and/or the advice given is all awful.) What does it mean? Because if I'd have just seen it, I'd probably have assumed it meant "Don't make excuses for bad behaviour just because he might have some good qualities, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 12:38 PM |
| 21 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?We can answer him with one small statement before he says 'Your an idiot, I'm talking to your manager' before leaving without talking to the manager unless a man is on shift. Oh my god. Service industry customer misogynists are the worst. Because you can't even walk away, you have to stand there and pretend like they're not being totally insane. "I refuse to pay ten pence for a carrier bag! I could afford to make such a payment, but am opposed to it on philosophical grounds because I happen to k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 12:09 PM |
| 9 | People who sincerely HATE the opposite gender, what do your real-life interactions with them look like?I really like this post, even if you're probably just going to get a load of "I don't hate women at all, but asxctuallyyyyy...." responses that refuse to confront it. It's something I wonder about, some of the stuff that is written on here practically every other post/comment, never mind in the actual Red Pill and wider "Manosphere" spaces. Like... if you believe what you're saying... if you truly believe that 'women as a group' are like what you're saying enough where 'its good to approach situ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Was the stay at home woman ever a good idea?Which are the fake jobs and which are the real jobs? Also, as I said - not just about money and being a good worker bee. I strongly and wholeheartedly believe there is a lot more to education than that, as do most people involved in it, despite what current political drives might be. Like, my specialisation is science (and within that field, physics). There are some areas I'm less strong in - like literature, and foreign language. I did them at school myself like everyone, and I did fine in my e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/20 07:56 AM |
| 7 | "I suck with women because I get high math grades" has got to be the stupidest cop out in the history of PPDThe majority of the people who grasp concepts and solve problems in physics significantly faster than others are not lacking in social skills. The majority of people who struggle with social skills and come across as 'awkward' - are more into playing Magic the Gathering than flirting - are not significantly above average ability in physics. Source: I teach physics. I actually really hate that "# I am very smart" kind of "I've spent the evening reading about quantum phenomena, you see this is the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.Everyone wants a "balanced" person not just women, yet perfectly balanced people are hard to find. Absolutely. And I'd go one further and say that 'perfectly balanced' people are incredibly rare. In Lieu of a perfectly balanced man, it appears most women are far more willing to sacrifice the "nice" traits for the aggressive traits, Well first off, I'd probably go with 'self-confidence' over aggression, even in the context of a simplified sliding scale from vulnerability. Aggression without (or e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 11:14 AM |
| 4 | Was the stay at home woman ever a good idea?Fair. Serious question why aren't you home schooling your kids? I don't know why someone would homeschool their kids in a situation where attending a school would more likely lead to a better outcome (in terms of finding employment that might help fulfil them but also socially and just in terms of intellectual development that will bring them happiness). There are clearly situations where, for individual case by case reasons, a particular child might be likely to have better outcomes from homesc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 08:24 AM |
| 1 | Was the stay at home woman ever a good idea?Everyone did what roles that humans and most primates have done since they’ve existed. What reason do you have to believe this to be true? Because it seems... to just be made up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/20 07:52 AM |
| 3 | In an ideal society, what should men and women's gender roles/social expectations look like? If you could design your own society how would you socialize men and women differently?I wouldn't change gender roles to other gender roles. I think the central problem is that we continue to socially enforce arbitrary rules of how people should think and behave based on what their genitals look like, not the rules themselves. Different rules would probably just be destructive and make people miserable in some other way. I'd have it so people can do what they want. People can wear what they want, socialise with whoever however they want, date who they want how they want, do the jo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 09:00 PM |
| 2 | In an ideal society, what should men and women's gender roles/social expectations look like? If you could design your own society how would you socialize men and women differently?Who decides who is high/low quality? Will this be set in stone, or change over time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 08:22 PM |
| 2 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.I am doing my best to get out of it and know more people that are exceptions [different to what I expect] That is the reason I always give the benefit of the doubt to anyone These are both good aspirations, I think. They're aspirations of mine as well. The language we use in talking to others, alongside internal self talk, does influence our perceptions of the world around us and how we fit things into or change our conceptual understanding. So I'd suggest to maybe avoid saying things like All w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Why are TRP users essentially misogynistic but FDS users aren't vice versa?I said women who say “kill all men” are seen as okay and groups of women who say kill all men are okay. This is like if I was talking about sexism against women, and I looked for the most abhorrent post I could find on the most vile 'incel' board about how all women should be kept in cages as sex or breeding slaves for men to use as they see fit, and a couple of other 'incels' agreeing with him. And then I said "You see this? People say this, and no one has a problem with it!!!". But while I do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Why are TRP users essentially misogynistic but FDS users aren't vice versa?It's a long list of organisations, foundations and charity grants that appear to be around the areas of equality/health/minority rights/the environment. The idea seems to be that people setting up projects in those areas can use it as a database for possible funding sources, so thats the funding source chart you're referring to I assume. Presumably the list of nations you gave is those where any of those organisations have worked with state leaders/services? You've not made it clear which of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 02:36 PM |
| 4 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.I am sure there are exceptions in the world. I am not talking about exceptions. I don't know if you've ever heard white/black swans (sometimes its sheep I think?) spoken about in a terms of logic/philosophy/scientific language thought experiment before? Anyway, here we go.... A 'logic problem' could go as follows - "I have seen swans. All the swans I have seen are white. Therefore, all swans are white". You'd be expected to point out that since you had not seen all the swans, you could not be en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 02:04 PM |
| 4 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.I mean... I've observed men's friend relationships. In terms of my male friends, but also my male friends' male friends, and my partners male friends, and my brothers male friends. And just... men in the world. Some awesome male friendships, some not as great ones. Nothing that has made me whistfully long that my female friend relationships were like that, because they're generally of a similar standard. My experiences are clearly different to yours and your wife's. Actually what you said though… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 12:30 PM |
| 4 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.Take away the vagina and you have a man, unless you’re bisexual, which I am not. I... I don't know what kind of... approach you're talking with these statements. As in, repeatedly defining each sex (bio sex? gender? gender identity? idk what you're getting at) in terms of being the other sex but lacking the other sex's genitals. Maybe its just the way you choose to conceptualise things and you have your reasons? But it comes off like you think I/the people reading this are unaware of what genita… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 09:54 AM |
| 1 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.Friendships consume time and money. As an introvert, they'll also consume energy. Men are introverted more often than women. I'm interested to know what thats based on, because I've always been taught/read that introversion and extroversion are primarily based on the way your process stimuli, and (its going to be dependent on how you test obviously, but if you try a variety of ways) vary pretty consistently across genders. But yeah, If you don't want to make any friends, I'd say a good idea is n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 09:21 AM |
| 3 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.What, my female friends? Pretty good, yeah. Can think of many occasions where they've been a godsend to me in difficult times, or made me laugh until I almost wet myself, or been great 'innocent mischief' accomplices, or inspired me in terms of their ideas and creativity, or we've just spent many an enjoyable hour casually shooting the shit. I mean, sometimes people are awful, but when you find that out you avoid them. Most people aren't awful. Generally, I'd give them a resounding thumbs up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 08:16 AM |
| 1 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.I mean, we assume men to be competent loners who never ask for help or admit ignorance/weakness. I think that is less 'we assume that' and more 'gender assumptions dictate we should think that'. Because... men seem to be pretty good at communicating and seem to enjoy social activity, whether its chatting to their dude bros while playing fortnight or making high brow quips over red wine and cheese. Just like women. I see plenty of reason to believe that the majority of men not being able to admit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 08:10 AM |
| 4 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.As many comments in the post to which you refer pointed out, women see friendships much in the same way that they view romantic relationships, via appreciation of what the other can do for the self rather than appreciation of the other for his or her being. Women are just as incapable of the (near) unconditional love required for true friendships as they are of the unconditional love required for truly loving sexual relationships. Or.... not. I'm sorry to hear your wife doesn't have good friends… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 08:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.Why would I want to be friends with heterosexual men, when all of the attempts at that, minus one (so far), have ended in them revealing that they're looking for sex or a relationship, or both, from me? I'm sorry that has been your experience. It hasn't been mine. I'm glad you have good female friends. So do I. Because the vast majority of women have active rather than just 'because I exist' value outside of sex. As we both know, but somehow seems to confuse and shock Red Pill men. but knowing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 08:04 AM |
| 5 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.And the point you are conveniently ignoring is that outside of sex and romance related stuff everything else I can get in a more reliable way, better quality and for way less effort from a male friend. I think I covered that a bit in the 'why by friends with women?' section (which to be honest I wasn't sure about including, and now its what everyone seems to be focussing on, but I suppose its brought up some points related to the wider idea with people). And also as the general point of the whol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 07:50 AM |
| 3 | CMV: An adherence to a lack of not-sex-related value for women is much less about reality, or even really dating strategy, and more about protecting yourself from hurt.If you take away sex from a woman, you're left with a man right? Wuh? What you're saying as far as I can see is "But why would I be around a woman I'm not gonna fuck, women are bitchy/whiny/not-funny, and I only tolerate their existence because they have vaginas?" I mean.. that isn't 'what women are like' or 'what women are like apart from a few rare outliers' or something. You clearly believe that to be the case. But it isn't - I have no reason to believe it, other than the account of a man who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/20 07:01 AM |
| 1 | Why are TRP users essentially misogynistic but FDS users aren't vice versa?Which of those groups in particular do you have an issue with? Because it seems just to be a long list of activist groups, some to do with disability etc. is the link not working for me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/20 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Are there people on this sub who wholeheartedly believe things like "women are only useful for sex/reproduction" or "men are only useful as providers/cash," or are these generalizations?you wanna force them to value or want to befriend women? No. Especially not if they do so while feeling that way about women - that seems like a bad idea for everyone. I also know there are plenty of men who don't really have female friends for other reasons - just because of lack of opportunities to meet women they share interests/humour with and make friends, or because they feel unsure about being around women. I don't think that all men who don't have female friends must immediately make som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/20 12:08 PM |
| 1 | The best career advice that I learned is don’t ever attach your-self to a PERSON, a place, a company, an organization or a project. Only Attach your-self to your mission in life and your PURPOSE. That’s how you keep your power and keep your peace! Surround your self with people who LIKE YOU FOR YOUI think what you're saying is correct, but also that it can be re-phrased in terms of identity, especially when applied to dating. People wrap up their identity into being a 'employee of x', or 'from y' or 'a supporter of z'. So then when that company/place/person/organisation becomes bad or wrong in some way, you can't distance their ideology from your belief system. And you view any criticism of the organisation/place/person as a deep personal attack, and therefore will defend against it rathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/20 09:27 AM |
| 4 | Are there people on this sub who wholeheartedly believe things like "women are only useful for sex/reproduction" or "men are only useful as providers/cash," or are these generalizations?You know, we’ve had several posts on the sub in the last day asking men if they can value women in a non-sexual or platonic way, and the answer has been a resounding “no”. Why don’t you believe them? Going to point out the use of the words MEN and CAN here, rather than the words I/WE and DON'T. Not OP, but... because it doesn't fit with all the other things I know about the world. See day to day, both in terms of my person relationships with others, or how society in general seems to operate. [I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/20 07:22 AM |
| 7 | Are most people who can only imagine fucking young girls (18-24) around the same age bracket?Ditto. (Mix of girls school and socially isolated, then 'omgz I'm kind of a freak, I'm ok going about my normal social life but I can't go there everyone will hate and judge me, and its not like people are constantly saying they want to be my boyfriend' for a while.) Zero desire to fuck younger people. Am also now married. To a man who was getting laid at the time I wasn't getting laid. Very little to no time spent whistfully hating my life because I didn't have 'my fair share' of early romance/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.I never said that. I meant where you said: Weakness and vulnerability is creepy and you naturally want to stamp it out, this is the SJW twitter politic talking. To me, saying that I find it creepy and want to stamp it out, when all you know about me is that I'm a woman, seems to suggest you are saying all women find it creepy in all its instances. I never said that. I said I meant when you said: And I don't believe your overt empathy. If you're a woman you have a low tolerance for it, we survive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.Woah saying that woman prefer stoic men isn't out landish No. Not that bit. The bit where you said that women (implying all) find all vulnerability and weakness in men 'creepy'. The bit where you said that women (implying all) don't have empathy. The bit where - when I suggested that I am not disgusted by providing emotional support to men and might even have sex with them again later - you said I had brainwashed myself using feminist twitter into going against my nature. "The majority of women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.I'm sorry to hear you've had bad experiences. Sometimes people freak out when hit with something they themselves maybe don't have the emotional capacity for at that time. Sometimes people are blindsided after something goes against what they have been led to believe 'relationships are supposed to look like' or 'men are supposed to be like'. Unfortunately, some people are just kind of callous and mean. I'm lucky that I've found someone who I can share with, and who knows he can share with me, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.The moral of this story is: Don't make outlandish statements about half the population as if you have been secretly handed the enlightened holy grail of knowing the human condition above all others. And then indignantly double down when called out on it. During a quarantine. When bored people are going to relentlessly pick apart what you're saying for shits and giggles. So I guess will just leave it as 'who knows'. I mean, you did ask me. A question without an easy soundbite answer. And despite … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.There are very few things to do with beliefs/feelings/behaviour I would in all confidence say apply to 'the vast majority of women'. Maybe "The vast majority of women don't want to have their entire family murdered". But less obvious things, so the ones that people more widely disagree on like this, tend to be "as statistically significant over a large portion of the population" rather than "a vast majority". As to which of those two women prefer? I don't know. Based on what I do know, I'd say i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 02:16 PM |
| 2 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.Yes you did, you said... Your hypothesis is correct I know the text was kind of long, so I don't want to be too harsh screaming "reading comprehension!". But I thought the context of that phrase (as something that was possibly true but most likely wasn't) was obvious. Above it I did say how I thought you were just wrong. My theory is correct for the majority of women. It's not. I'm sorry if you're going to present an argument you better bring some data, I won't be subjected to your queer hypothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 01:08 PM |
| 2 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.Let's be clear you haven't provided any data yourself If we were going to be "its a debate!!!" about this - I don't have to. You're the one that is proposing either a universal or statistically generalised hypothesis about how women behave, so really you're the one who should be supporting that statement with evidence that isn't just conjecture. But if we're going to be more "we're just chatting any learning" - still, I don't really know what 'data' or evidence I would use. Am I supposed to brin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 12:22 PM |
| 2 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.This is the problem with 'The Red Pill' though. It takes the useful forming of concepts based upon new evidence and... stops you from doing that. Some of these dating experiences happened to you when you were a child - when you were still learning about the world (which you do your whole life, but its exponential when you're a child), and when you were new to dating so all experiences were new. Your prior lack of knowledge about dating meant you didn't have any concepts around 'how will the way … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 10:21 AM |
| 1 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.lmao at comparing puppies to human beings. As soon as I read this, I knew I was either reading a troll post or a genuinely stupid one. Slightly changed version of what I said to the other dude: My 'tweaked back analogy' was to show that in a more general sense of emotions as a response to stimulus, weakness/vulnerability and 'creepiness' are not associated. So the idea that even if I had some proclivity against sex with men who show vulnerability, that is because I find those things specifically… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 08:47 AM |
| 2 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.It's fascinating to watch people override their instincts with political correctness, how hard was it for you to indoctrinate yourself against your own intrinsic proclivity? This is what I mean - this is bad science, or maybe rather bad science communication. You're presented with data that contradicts your hypothesis, which already was based on conjecture (there are some parts of evolutionary psychology that are pretty good at using either modern experiments or archeological information in orde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/20 08:20 AM |
| 3 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.How is her personal anecdote somehow more meaningless than the OC's "women do this!" (not 'in general', because even then... just 'women', so actually one anecdote is sufficient to refute it, but whatever), as supported by an example of two seemingly hypocritical tweets by one woman? So you're saying women "as a group" (presumably you mean 'a majority of women', because I'm not sure what else you could mean by that) do what the top comment said, am I correct? Okay. You're wrong. If you'd present… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 05:31 PM |
| 5 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.And I don't believe your overt empathy. If you're a woman you have a low tolerance for it, we survived as a species because women raised tough men and married tough men. Weakness and vulnerability is creepy and you naturally want to stamp it out, this is the SJW twitter politic talking. 1) Empathy is good. And beneficial. I don't have a low tolerance for it, I'm a big fan in fact. Human beings are an incredibly social and communicative species. Empathy and emotional communication are clearly not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 03:45 PM |
| 7 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.I think that is the problems when we start talking about 'confidence is attractive'. Because - yep, absolutely. And I agree with you in that 'true confidence' can mean a sort of... deep belief that you have worth and will be ok, even when you're unsure of yourself or scared... rather than a more 'false' confidence of always needing to 'win' or of never showing fear or questioning yourself. But other people seem to read the word confidence differently. And yeah, of course it depends what someone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 02:57 PM |
| 6 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.I mean, personally - no. I don't really feel like sex at all when my most dominant emotion is sadness. And I'd find 'having sex to cheer someone up' when I'm not feeling sexy at all to be... I don't want to do that. I mean maybe once the more intense 'sadness based interaction' is over and we've started to cheer up a bit, might be like "Hey you know what is fun, sex!", but not really that often or because of the sadness... I don't at all deny that some people can feel aroused when they're sad, o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 02:46 PM |
| 13 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.Yep. Don't get me wrong, I think "The Red Pill" as a theoretical lens and 'movement' is misogynistic bullshit with no redeeming positive side, apart from the parts where it overlaps with "common sense that no one disputes". Others may not agree there. But what really gets me is how the language, the focus and the concepts applied to everything eventually takes people away from being able to otherwise look at human beings and understand them. If you frame every male/female interaction (or even so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 02:19 PM |
| 64 | Women don't like sensitive men. But rather men with a *sensitive side*.I mean... yeah, in the sense that wet blankets who are entirely unable to stand up for themselves and whose only emotional range is sadness and/or self-pity aren't that fun to be around. Being assertive when you need to be is a good thing. For me, "displaying" assertiveness and dominance all the time is a massive turn-off - someone who can't let other people lead and default to other's wishes, and will always escalate or try to 'win' over aggression rather than walk away, refuses to appear weak … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Are there actually that many women who "rode the CC" without relationships and waited until their 30's to think about settling down?Women don’t have to put off marriage to accomplish things unless the accomplishment they are looking for is a high body count. Its not so much that you have to be single to 'work on yourself' or have a good career etc. Or not have kids. Obviously. "Working on yourself" is sort of a... life time project, after all. But being married or in a serious relationship does impact the way that you live your life, your considerations and your day to day existence. Anyone who says it doesn't - I seriously … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/20 07:46 AM |
| 1 | [Discussion] U.S. Marriage Rate Plunges to Lowest Level on Record!This is a particularly fitting post for me, because I got married last year (not in the US so not part of any US statistics, but definitely in the west) and coincidentally made my husband (and myself) scrambled eggs for lunch a few hours ago. I obviously fail at being an entitled white western feminist slut harpy. I shall have to hope my fellow entitled slut country-women, who apparently for the most part would never do those things, don't realise what a unicorn I am. Or they will surely take aw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 03:56 PM |
| 6 | Women. Just how important is social status to you and why?And their wives know how they are and don't seem to care. It's called 'love' and/or 'the sunk cost fallacy' and/or 'emotional manipulation' and/or 'gaslighting'. Women develop feelings for a man. Whether its because 'their hamster brain gets wet when within the radius of an alpha manly man', or because they find him interesting and believe him at that point to be of good character, they get with him. Marry him, even. Then further down the line they realise he is a piece of shit - either because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 12:46 PM |
| 1 | What does a man have to do to get a reasonable proportion of women to not impose gender roles and expectations in a relationship?My husband probably fits the profile you're talking about: Openly talks about his feelings (is a lot better at this than me, actually), works to live rather than living to work (he would happily be a house-husband but I don't want to be an exhausted wage climber either, so we both work), thinks that macho posturing is bullshit, thinks that showing 'dominance' socially is just pathetic ego fluffing, etc. Enter me - who already thought that traditional gender roles are limiting and we're better of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 08:39 AM |
| 1 | What does a man have to do to get a reasonable proportion of women to not impose gender roles and expectations in a relationship?An aside, but - my evo-pysch lecturer was obsessed with bonobos. Specifically how they would fuck anyone and anything, and how this reflected on us as the closest animals to them. He would go on about it all the time. He would also stare at your tits while he was talking to you, spend way more time talking about and showing pictures of his 'personal experience' with breasts than was in any way educationally necessary, only seemed to have actually engaged academic conversation with male students,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/20 08:14 AM |
| 2 | Is the happiness and fulfillment of bottom tier men dependent on the suffering and misery of women?But why is that a problem? If they are 'beta bux' and 'get married eventually' (assuming that is actually a thing and girls chase that beta bux ££££, and women genuinely have no preference for academic type intelligence ever), surely they are if anything more likely to reproduce and pass on their genes and socially influence the children in their family. And presumably their children are more likely to be influential in society due to the opportunities afforded by an upbringing with more wealth.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/20 11:44 AM |
| 0 | Is the happiness and fulfillment of bottom tier men dependent on the suffering and misery of women?Nerds get confused because the deliberate kind of highly logical, memory intensive problem solving that is rewarded in school and in the STEM workplace is not valued by women. But why would it be? Do you think hunter gatherers were solving differential equations? No, they were forming hunting alliances and goofing off around the campfire. Most of the nerdy STEM guys I know (and women) are married or in committed relationships (or even a couple of massive players spring to mind). The ability to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/20 11:16 AM |
| 17 | People over-glorify youth. Specfically, the 18 to 24 demographic.I didn't get any 'young romance'. Lots of people, women and men, that I know didn't. I certainly never blamed boys/men for it. It's... fine. There are lots of things in life that I'll never do/have/be. You get over it, cherish the things and good memories you do have over the things you don't. If you have the energy to spend your life in an eternal rage at the fact that you didn't hold hands under the stars with a pretty girl in high school, I feel like... you must be someone who is kind of used… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/20 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Is the higher autism (or at least diagnosis) rate in men rather than woman a result of gender inequality?Are you just like... making up numbers at this point? Please stop, it looks kind of silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 09:53 PM |
| 5 | Is the higher autism (or at least diagnosis) rate in men rather than woman a result of gender inequality?No. True autism lies at the furthest frontier of the male mind. It is what's left of a brain after you strip it of anything a woman might resonate with: color, emotion, eroticism, capriciousness. It is a sterile, sexless, quiet place that will always be the province of men. Hello, it's the 1970s! We'd like our batshit baseless unscientific attempt at psychology back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 09:50 PM |
| 2 | Is the higher autism (or at least diagnosis) rate in men rather than woman a result of gender inequality?Autism is apparently caused by higher than average testosterone levels Yeah this seems... nonsense... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/20 09:44 PM |
| 4 | What are some ideas that both sides can agree on?a completely neurotypical person I mean, I'm absolutely not this, and I still don't think those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 07:32 PM |
| 3 | What are some ideas that both sides can agree on?But, who are you? In a real sense. If not an amalgamation of actions, beliefs and relationships? You can get metaphysical about personal identity, and that is cool, I'm on board for that. But you can't expect other people to somehow look into you 'soul' and parse your inner wonderfulness and dedicate their life to the nurturing of it. That isn't how social interaction works. The women/men you're dating are just as in their own heads as you are, and just as much looking for the validation they've… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 07:27 PM |
| 11 | What are some ideas that both sides can agree on?Most women just... meet people and see if you like them and they seem to like you back, and if they don't treat you like shit... just sort of play it by ear and see where it goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 05:07 PM |
| 2 | What are some ideas that both sides can agree on?I'm so glad I met my partner just before online/app dating became the primary way people meet (aka Tinder exploded). That shit is just so... a detached meat market. No one seems to be paying attention to each other, even once they're communicating. Just... sifting. Plus, I have this thing where I'm notoriously awful at selling myself in job applications, but then I do really well at interview on the few occasions that I get there. I have a feeling that would also apply to Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 04:57 PM |
| 4 | What are some ideas that both sides can agree on?If you asked people who'd tick the box 'BP', you'd probably get some differing answers, but for the most part I don't think anyone really believes in unconditional love (apart from between parents and children). Maybe some hardcore romantics, but not many. I think the difference is 'conditional' not meaning "she'll jump ship if you stop being perfect and alpha, AWALT, also if you lose your job/become disabled your SO will either leave or resent you forever no exceptions". Not being an embittered… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 04:52 PM |
| 11 | What are some ideas that both sides can agree on?Isn't that how all females think? No, it's how edgy teenage girls and some weirdos think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 04:43 PM |
| 119 | What are some ideas that both sides can agree on?Putting women 'on a pedestal' and believing they are perfect angels who are going to solve all your problems is a bad idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 11:36 AM |
| 6 | New study links number of sexual partners to an increased chance of cancerOr you could just, like... have the HPV vaccine. You're going Correlation is not always equal to causation applies (especially in this case where its clearly very likely a mixture of HPV - which there is now a vaccine for and all teenage girls are now vaccinated in my country anyway - and other associated life factors) and then you're like yelling about women empowerment and sex positivity As if somehow the study you admit isn't likely causation (apart from HPV, which to be honest you can easily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/20 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4A: How much is your self worth tied to how sexually attractive men/women find you?Not much. I'm married, so that changes things in that I'm not looking for people. So now... not really at all? Basically I used to worry that I wasn't attractive in the sense of "I'll never have relationships because I'm not of that standard and therefore I'll be alone forever", when I was a lot younger. But I got over that. I've never really cared about men finding me attractive in terms of my self worth I don't think. I've never really cared when other people are more attractive than me, or fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Why does a woman who has sex a lot of men 'not matter', yet women are turned off if they find out those men had sex with a lot of other men?Counterpoint - slash fiction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 09:48 AM |
| 3 | Women don't understand why promiscuity is undesirable because men who are able to cheat are high-value, whereas all women can cheat and those who do are low-valueBut your argument seems kind of tautological or just generally not to make sense? It seems like it's "No one gets that women with more past partners make worse LTR. Because women who have more past partners are less desirable for a LTR. Because women who have more past partners make worse for a LTR." Then your original point seems to be that there is some gender difference in the likelihood that a woman will cheat based on her past sexual behaviour, hence why women don't understand that 'promisc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/20 12:44 PM |
| 1 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.I don't believe this is a rant. I've spelled out, with examples, my argument that non-liked women are treated differently to non-liked men in society. I've done so in such a way that asked posters to "Correct my view" because I explicitly posited a point about how public figures are treated for others to discuss. To examine how male celebrities are treated differently to female celebrities - either the examples I gave, or others they might raise. I was interested to hear if others shared my 'lig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 08:26 PM |
| 8 | Do men here realize that the women who post here "care" more about men's issues than like 99% of women do?For the 100th time but: I care about men that are in pain. Because they're human beings that are in pain. I don't think that they're in pain because of some gynocentric feminist conspiracy, because that doesn't bare out in reality. But I care that they're in pain. I think they should have mental health support, financial support and societal acceptance. And I will fight for them to have those things. We seem to fall down when I say "because thats the understanding that nice people give me". Beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 08:11 PM |
| 1 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.No one hates Louis CK. Not in the way I'm talking about. People don't think that someone who starts masturbating in front of women who want jobs should get good work. But no one hates him. Amy Schumer is being denied all sorts of movie and TV shit because people hate her. Don't be silly. Also just people saying they're going to murder you without even actually doing it is still a pretty limiting factor. If someone flooded Louis CK with communication that they'd murder him for doing x/y/z you mig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 07:12 PM |
| 1 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.Only one of them actually has talent. Could that be a factor? That your "hated women" are impostors that are lifted as tokens by a society that tries so hard to make women models. R Kelly is a good singer, though as someone who grew up in the 90s I'd be very happy to never hear "I Believe I Can Fly" again. "Girls' actually really had its moments. So what? Are you arguing that talent excuses crime? But here you are - ACTUALLY ARGUING with this example that "consensual creeps" that are universally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 06:47 PM |
| 2 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.free will I don't believe in free will. But otherwise yeah, I suppose... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 06:39 PM |
| 1 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.Lena Dunham admits to molesting her sister. She still has a career. Lena Dunham wrote a thing where she said that she was inappropriate with her sister when she was herself her small child. I'm not saying this was OK. But also I haven't seen her in anything recently. How many shitty male comedians do you know about? Most of them. Most comedians aren't actually very funny. Just when its men, everyone just doesn't laugh and waits for the next act. Amber Heard, abuses her ex but requires a bloody p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 06:37 PM |
| 1 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.I'm going to assume that you're a trolling feminist helping me out because this is too perfect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 06:32 PM |
| 2 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.over something consensual Yeah.... not so sure on that but whatever. Louis CK is seen as a hero for withstanding the 'evil over-reaction of the MeToo mob' by a pretty significant number of people. He has done recent gigs. The other people think 'he probably shouldn't be on a TV show because we shouldn't hold that behaviour as acceptable'. People call out Louis CK, they say that Louis CK is a bad person. They don't hate Louis CK, following him around the internet and real life telling him how the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 06:30 PM |
| 1 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.The difference is Schumer was getting way more publicity than Carr. She was getting more interviews and red carpet walks and movies and she was also actively supporting people like Lena Dunham who molested her younger sister and admitted to it with zero social consequences. I remember the whole thing that Durham said about her sister. It was suspect, yeah. But I don't get why people hate her but don't hate R Kelly who married an actual child in the 90s and everyone just ignored it? Also I suppos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 06:21 PM |
| 1 | When men are bad, people ignore them or are compassionate, but when women are bad they are *evil*.Gal Godot is ok I suppose? Wonder Woman was OK. But you've got to refer to the elephant in the room that isn't "She is a super talented actress the likes of which have rarely been known" and in-fact is "She is in the public eye while being very beautiful and also not saying much". The thing is that most of the people celebrated day to day are pretty mediocre. Why are people OK with mediocre men who are the week's 'hot new thing' but with women they have an apoplectic fit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Is feminisms really to blame for any of men’s problemsWomen ruin male hobbies by being there. You're ignoring my point. It's not a male hobby just because you're a man and its your hobby. Thats not how things work. Like, I'm sorry if my liking x/y/z and going to the x/y/z convention or whatever upsets you. But I would rather just live my life and ignore that? Because your inability to see the fault in the "but I'm a man and its my hobby so that means I own it" logic is most definitely a you problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Is feminisms really to blame for any of men’s problemsOutside of your angry internet dude goggles view world, you know damn well that a significant portion of sci fi fans are women and always have been. It would be better if I could just go to places where I can engage with and talk about the media I enjoy without my existence apparently triggering someone's bizarre identity crisis, but apparently not. I call it 'Big Bang Theory fan-dom'. Because of how on the Big Bang Theory the 'nerd jokes' aren't actually about anything, they're about being abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 05:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: in general women are given sympathy when they've been abused but men are ridiculed for it.For me it more of a... I don't want to get shot, but I also don't want to shoot people. I'd rather people just not shoot at me (or each other) than have the tools to shoot them first. The idea that somehow 'well if you're the good guy and you have a gun, you can intimidate the bad guy into not shooting' always seems strange. It just seems like in that situation... everyone is getting shot. Which, realistically, is what actually happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 08:34 AM |
| 2 | Is feminisms really to blame for any of men’s problemsIts always funny to me, because in my family growing up, it happened to be the women that were more into sci-fi and fantasy than the men. Most of the collections of Asimov, Douglas Adams, Philip K Dick etc. I've seen on bookcases have been women's copies. Most of the Trekkies I've known over the years have been women. When I was a teenager, it was a group of female friends that passed around a copy of Watchmen. And no one ever seemed to think anything of it. I mean... they're just books/TV shows… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 08:11 AM |
| 3 | Is feminisms really to blame for any of men’s problemsCultural invasion of male hobbies like sports, science fiction, video games and comics When exactly are you claiming that women 'invaded' these thing? There was a time when people used to think playing sport would make your womb fall out, but that was a pretty long time ago and I have a feeling you're talking more recently than that. (Also, kind of an aside, but you'd think that men who are always talking about how it's so important for women not to be fat would be for women being involved in sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/20 07:49 AM |
| 2 | Premarital sexual history is a better indicator of risk of divorce than ageLiterally that I just scrolled for the autmod to say. Can we just... agree that perhaps using a phrase most commonly associated with murderers isn't the least obviously loaded way to refer to women's (I mean, its always women's) past consensual sexual partners? It stretches the whole "we're just here to talk about the FACTS!" bullshit to a comical level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/20 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Premarital sexual history is a better indicator of risk of divorce than ageIs there any logical reason why IE market share is connected with the Murder rate? Nope But there is likely a reason. Even if its 'population'. It's a reason. It's no less a reason than your other point is a reason. Like, if you want to try and find religious hyper traditional women to date, because they're less likely to divorce you because divorce is more likely to be taboo to them (though I mean you're also more likely to be in an unhappy marriage with someone with a weird idea of sexuality, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/20 06:17 PM |
| 7 | Harvard study - Expectations of wives’ homemaking may have eroded, but the husband breadwinner norm persists.I didn't grow up with too much money but I feel extremely lucky to have had a stay home mother. My childhood was better than almost all the children i see today with duel income households. I've said this on here before but: My family could have definitely got by on my dad's wage, but not as comfortably. My mother worked (always, though part time for a few years when we were younger). I never once wished my mother didn't work or worked less, hand on heart. She had a professional job that involve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you feel better about being a woman now that you know no matter how low you are, you're still better than a man who's at your level?True, that's the ideal anyway. But I can't recount how many articles, blogs, or Reddit thread complaining that men are using them as 'emotional dumpster', even when you read further on that the guy's just opening up and being, you know, human. The problem is men who have been encouraged not to show or work through emotions, and can't talk about their emotions properly with friends etc. So then they meet a woman and they're like "Oh yeah!" and just dump all of it on her like she is their therapis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/20 09:59 AM |
| 2 | Opinion on Dyed HairBasically: 1) People dye their hair whatever colour because they think it looks nice. There are a lot of aesthetics that are appealing but not mainstream (goth, punk, cyber, raver, hippy, etc.) of which certain colours fit - people may enjoy those aesthetics and therefore choose to dye their hair those colours. 2) Dying your hair a colour that isn't a naturally occurring hair colour is 'not normally the way things are done'. It is not expected of a person. Someone who dyes their hair certain col… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 09:07 AM |
| 5 | Were men told that being nice would get them laid? If so, by who?Nah 'pastoral' meaning a job centred around welfare/safeguarding/mental health/wider behaviour issues/bullying/etc. rather than actually teaching (though I do the latter now). I didn't say "just turn the other cheek" and you're absolutely correct - you need to be able to stand up for yourself. What I meant more is... as I said in particular a few are jumping to mind. To give an example... let's call him Craig. Craig was 12, had constant issues (normally verbal but some physical) with shit going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 11:39 AM |
| 2 | Were men told that being nice would get them laid? If so, by who?my teachers Am teacher. Have never given dating advice to a kid, and to be honest the idea of doing so is bizarre. I do encourage the kids to be nice to each other generally. Both because... you know, I care about them and I want them to be kind to each other... but also because the ones who are at least generally considerate and compassionate have less social problems (that then need to be sorted out by pastoral staff, which I used to be so I've seen that side of things as well). Honestly in my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/20 07:59 AM |
| 7 | Will COVID-19 usher in a new wave of traditional relationship roles?1) A very small number of feminists are considering a few different theoretical impacts this could have on society moving forward. This is not the only one that has been posited. Why would the minority of women who have specifically lost their jobs, and not had their partners lose their jobs, because they specifically decided to be the ones to stay at home not try and get new jobs once it is over? Are people in that really not pleasant position - of having to go down to one salary - really going… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/20 04:19 PM |
| 11 | Will COVID-19 usher in a new wave of traditional relationship roles?Trad-con wishful thinking, with the evidence given providing no real support for it. Yeah, I'd imagine some single women are wishing they were in a relationship right now. And some single men. I personally am happy my husband is here so I'm not alone - and so is he. Being alone for long periods of time is shit. Why the hell would women with jobs CHOOSE to stop working during a fucking recession when the schools open back up? Women and men are homeschooling right now - many at the same time as wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/20 04:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The idea that most women aren’t cultured doesn’t hold water, because most men aren’t cultured either. It seems negative attributes pertaining to most people are extrapolated on everyone of a certain gender in MGTOW/radfem, regardless of whether or not it is true for the same gender."Its not correct to describe women as being more basic and uncultured because...." Person who says women are more basic and uncultured (and uses it to explain why they don't have female friends): "GAWD I'm so sick of people pointing out that men do things as well..." "But if men are like that as well, doesn't the whole point break down?" "I'm not DATING men though am I, so it doesn't matter..." Perhaps if you're unable to look at the bigger picture critically yourself, look at your own nature as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/20 06:46 AM |
| 6 | Have you ever heard about a doctor/lawyer or affluent man dating a lower class woman (janitress, cashier...)? SeriouslyIt's kind of funny how people are listing female coded professional roles (teachers, nurses), requiring significant education and meeting of standards. Without acknowledging how the giant ironic elephant in the room relates to why they are considered "less prestigious". "Oh yeah, I mean in some places they make decent money I suppose. Oh yeah, and I suppose you need actually more education than a lot of other roles men do that are considered respectable. But they're not seen as prestigious or im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/20 07:47 AM |
| 3 | How many of you admit to being shallow?I care a bit about looks. I like it when men are good looking, its nice to look at. I suppose it doesn't matter much not that I'm, like, married, but there you go. Sometimes men are good looking and nice to look at, and that is fun. Sometimes they're less so but I don't draw out a pitchfork and call my fellow women to have them hung drawn and quartered for speaking to me. It seem unfair that I have to justify not fucking every man I haven't fucked. It seems like every time I have even considered… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/20 10:01 PM |
| 5 | Why do women value careers so highly?Most people can conceive beyond early 30s - up until late 30s or early 40s. It's harder, and some people can't, but the majority can manage it. For most people, fertility doesn't really start to drop off until mid 30s. Some people manage to have kids up to their mid 40s. I know a lot of 30 year olds who have met other 30 year olds and got together? That generally seems to be who most guys who haven't settled down until their 30s get with? Doesn't seem that rare at all. Plus you can absolutely me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/20 01:31 PM |
| 4 | Why do women value careers so highly?(especially women due to the tiny timeframe of when best to have kids) Its not reeeeally that tiny though. Most people get two decades worth. Some people will never be able to have biological kids, some people will always find it near impossible whatever their age. You can make your whole life about making sure you're not in that small group of women who could have managed it earlier on but not later. But arguably its not a good idea to stake all your happiness on something that might not happen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/20 12:46 PM |
| 4 | "Get out there and meet women" - what do people have in mind when they say stuff like this?Generally house parties seem fair game if you kind of know someone, but I mean it does depend on the kind of house party. I've seen many a guy push his way into random parties as "I'm Steve's mate... yeah Steve is agreeing that he knows me [he does know Steve] also I just bought a six pack, party time everyone". You guilt your friend into taking you. Thats how it works. "Steve, I also want to go to to the party, you've been invited, take me with you". Then you go, and its like "Who is that perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 08:16 PM |
| 8 | "Get out there and meet women" - what do people have in mind when they say stuff like this?Funny because most of the actual people with ASD I have met are up for this shit, as opposed to self diagnosed incel types who see self flagellating weirdness as a point of pride. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 07:39 PM |
| 2 | "Get out there and meet women" - what do people have in mind when they say stuff like this?Have you never shown up somewhere you're not welcome because you're bored and lonely? Because I have. As a woman. Pro tip: If you hear of a (after high school) party or whatever and you show up, even if you're not welcome, people are unlikely to hound you out with pitchforks. No one really wants you there but you just sort of... deal and hope you can win some people over to the idea of being around you. Its like a priority play between the humiliation of being somewhere no one gives a shit wheth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 07:34 PM |
| 9 | Reasonably attrattive men in their early 30s with their sh*t together are better off casual dating than being in a LTR?The amount of women who "don't want children," but then end up being a dogmom and popping xanax three times a day to deal with their constant anxiety, would lead one to believe that a lot of women don't realize they do want kids until it is almost too late. Hence, baby rabies. Hey, I'd be careful ascribing heavy benzo use to women without children. There is a reason they used to call that shit 'mother's little helper'. (The reason is being a trad housewife with squalling infants and expectations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 07:38 PM |
| 8 | Reasonably attrattive men in their early 30s with their sh*t together are better off casual dating than being in a LTR?Shhh don't tell PPD that the difference between 20s and 30s fertility and genetic profile for offspring is so small, they'll lose their collective shit and never recover. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 07:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As a bisexual guy women are generally far more homophobic than men are when it comes to their partner being bisexual or having experimented with the same sexI’m definitely not just in the process of coming out as fully gay and the suggestion of that is kind of insulting lol. Thats kind of my point - it is pretty insulting, and its bullshit, but its what a lot of people seem to believe or expect deep down. I’m sure you and your husband understand why a lot of the time it’s easier as a guy to just stay in the closet and pretend to be 100% straight. It is what it is I guess. Yeah I think my husband has no interest in coming out because he wouldn't even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 10:57 PM |
| 8 | CMV: As a bisexual guy women are generally far more homophobic than men are when it comes to their partner being bisexual or having experimented with the same sexIt sometimes seems like society still sees bi-women as "straight but appreciates boobs - will eventually grow out of it when she meets a good enough man" and bi-men as "gay but haven't accepted it yet". As a straight woman married to a man who wouldn't identify as 'bi' but is further to the centre of the kinsey scale than I am, I'm often scared to mention it to people because a) straight up homophobia but also b) everyone goes quiet as they assume my husband is 'secretly gay' and eventually goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 07:57 PM |
| 3 | How does a guy not know anything about girls?I went to an all girls high school and my brother went to an all boys high school (much more common in the UK), and consequently had social groups very much based around single sex interactions. I remember my mother always worrying that my brother "Wouldn't learn how to interact with girls" or "Wouldn't understand girls" because of it. And I'd say "Aren't you worried that I won't learn how to interact with guys?" and she was like "No, you'll figure it out". Was always kind of funny. Now my broth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/20 07:09 AM |
| 9 | Q4Women: What's going through your mind when you deny a man sex after discovering he has money?The post in general with the whole "I'm so great that I have to hide that I'm so great" plus the giant "deny a man sex" red flag make me think you're correct. "I was having fun, but now you're being all weird and entitled, so I'm going to head off bu-bye." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 07:15 AM |
| 3 | Men Crave Sex cause it's the only way we dont get shamed for admitting we want physical affectionSame. I'm not a very touchy feely person at all - being touched affectionately at random or someone I'm not in a relationship with randomly cuddling up to me makes me feel really uncomfortable. I'm Ok with a quick hug hello and goodbye, but not anything more. Yeah, women are more likely to hug/kiss cheeks as a greeting than men, and its seen as more OK for physically affectionate female friends to cuddle a bit. Not disputing that. But it isn't even nearly the case that all inter-woman relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/20 08:16 AM |
| 3 | American dads "babysitting" their own kids and not changing their diapers, not paying child support, etc. Is it cultural that Americans expect less effort/responsibility from fathers than from mothers?If someone is listed as primary point of contact, or a note suggesting who to contact, then I'd call them first. If there are two contacts listed and one says "mother" and the other "father", unless otherwise specified they are both primary contacts. Most of the time when you call the mother, they're at work. And they answer and say "Oh Ok I'll try and get off" or "My mum is retired I'll call her to come over" or "try their dad, its easier for him to get out of work" (for example its generally e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 09:31 PM |
| 1 | American dads "babysitting" their own kids and not changing their diapers, not paying child support, etc. Is it cultural that Americans expect less effort/responsibility from fathers than from mothers?You exited a partnership. If you can support your kids on your dime, do it, if not, the kids live with the parent who can and we will establish a visitation regime for you. Surely this would create some, in fact many, really awful situations though. Gave up your career to look after kids? You better not leave, even if your partner is an abusive piece of shit, because you'll never see your kids again. They'll be with the one who bought them and they don't know as well, traumatised. Or a situation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 06:14 PM |
| 1 | American dads "babysitting" their own kids and not changing their diapers, not paying child support, etc. Is it cultural that Americans expect less effort/responsibility from fathers than from mothers?It's the sad truth though that rich people tend to do better in legal shit because they can pay their way out of accountability - that is the case in all areas of the law. Sometimes shit just isn't fair, I agree. But for every case like you listed, there are cases of fathers paying 0 or basically 0 child support to a desperate mother, and him getting away with it despite numerous attempts to follow it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 05:16 PM |
| 1 | American dads "babysitting" their own kids and not changing their diapers, not paying child support, etc. Is it cultural that Americans expect less effort/responsibility from fathers than from mothers?Why does the govt suddenly meddle in how parents tend to the “funds” for the kids when a divorce happens but not before? Because the vast majority of the time (unless social care get involved for whatever reason before hand, such as neglect) thats the first time the idea of "Who is paying for these children and how much in this family?" falls across the government's lap. If there is a child custody arrangement through legal avenues, it means one or more of the parents has gone to those avenues a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 05:12 PM |
| 20 | American dads "babysitting" their own kids and not changing their diapers, not paying child support, etc. Is it cultural that Americans expect less effort/responsibility from fathers than from mothers?Thats interesting, because all the people I've met who do the whole "I hate when people call dads looking after kids babysitting" or "I hate when people make out like they're just the mother's kids" thing have been a) women and b) feminists. I work in education and used to work in social care, and I make a point of calling the dad's number (if there is an issue with the kids, or to feedback on something positive, or if they need picking up because they're ill) if they're both listed at least hal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 05:01 PM |
| 1 | American dads "babysitting" their own kids and not changing their diapers, not paying child support, etc. Is it cultural that Americans expect less effort/responsibility from fathers than from mothers?I dunno man, I don't have kids so have less laundry than if I did, and I still hate doing it. We both share responsibility for it at the moment. It's less the putting it in the washer - thats fine - and more the hanging it up, and then taking down the hung up clothes and putting them away. (We don't have a drier, but also those things use so much electricity and half of clothes are do-not-tumble-dry anyway.) So much fucking boring hassle. Hand on heart, I prefer cleaning the toilet to hanging an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 04:51 PM |
| 0 | American dads "babysitting" their own kids and not changing their diapers, not paying child support, etc. Is it cultural that Americans expect less effort/responsibility from fathers than from mothers?As far as I understand how this works: Residence/custody is decided based on who has been previously the one giving care to the children. If it has been both parents, then some form of joint custody/residence arrangement is worked out - 50/50 being standard if both are care gives and ask for residence/custody. Then the child support is worked out according to whose salary is highest (though also if say the mother has 90% residence the assumption is that she will be paying 90% of the costs so tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/20 04:43 PM |
| 5 | Q4women: What is some common dating advice for women that’s actually bad?Anything to do with the idea of "Mr Right" really, though that could be 'Mrs Right" in a gender flipped version, so it's not just about women. I absolutely don't mean 'put up with someone you don't really love just because they're there' or 'settle'. I mean the problem with Mr Right is that women (and men) will then date with a version of who that person is in their head, looking for that person. Like "They've got to be into x" "They've got to say y to me" "They've got to look like z". Then they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Do women tend to value stealing men from each other?Indeed, serial monogamists are definitely a thing, of all genders and sexualities. It's more of a mixture of insecurity, neediness and attachment issues really. Yeah, I think thats it with Rob. With a little helping of laziness thrown in there are as well. They are not actively looking per se but if there is someone who is way more interesting/attractive than their current partner, in a way they couldn't have imagined before, then they will jump ship. I think it depends. Sometimes, yes 100%. Oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/20 12:26 PM |
| 3 | Q4W Do women tend to value stealing men from each other?I know not all women are like this, but for the women that are, does it feel rewarding to have a man cheat with you? I've never had a guy cheat with me (to my knowledge), but I imagine the whole 'feeling bad for his girlfriend and also that it means he is a kind of scummy person' would outweigh any feeling it was rewarding because I'd made his eye wander. Is this something you think many women consider when meeting a attractive guy but partnered? I don't know. I don't think so, at least consciou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/20 10:30 AM |
| 6 | Scarcity is a property of value in almost every definition of it, however we are told that someone's body count should not define their value. How do you reconcile this?Hot take: The complexity of human relationships cannot be adequately reduced to very base level economic theory. I might, as a woman, have more to offer in a romantic relationship than a small warm whole to stick a dick in. Not because "I'm a super accomplished woman respect my intrinsic wonderful authority". But because I'm like, an actual human being who is able to form full sentences and offer comfort, intrigue and validation beyond being a scarce fuck-whole. There is, in fact, a whole being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 10:02 PM |
| 1 | r/MGTOW just got removed. Is Reddit's Moderators biased towards blue-pilled ideas?I don't know much about FDS. Couple of times I've been there it looks like some weird, unhelpful and unhealthy shit. But I have no further opinion on it. It's attracted less potential mass murderers so far though, so thats a plus I suppose. If it does reddit will probably act. But I mean, OP was also comparing it to r/TheBluePill and r/Feminism which are very clearly nothing to do with anything related to this, other than 'probably where the womenz are'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 05:09 PM |
| 3 | r/MGTOW just got removed. Is Reddit's Moderators biased towards blue-pilled ideas?This quarantine is clear bias against men. Against men. Who are the majority of reddit posters. And mods. And admins. Only a very very small minority of which have the slightest interested in having anything to do with MGTOW. They're not quarantining menslib. Or, I dunno, american football subreddits that I imagine are pretty male skewed in terms of posters. There is no 'anti-man bias'. The problem here is clear as day is anti-woman sentiments. Because however much MGTOW claims to be about men m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 04:59 PM |
| 11 | r/MGTOW just got removed. Is Reddit's Moderators biased towards blue-pilled ideas?If r/FemaleDatingStrategy got the same kind of negative attention, it would be quarantined or banned. Indeed. I mean, I think the official rational will always be hate speech/prejudice/harassment. But I have no doubt when some "BTW, potential violent criminal with anti-x/y/z intentions also visited related sketchy subreddit a lot" news comes up, they will be spurned to get off their seats and actually go and look what is going on there. It does also seem that the association between subreddits/b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 03:56 PM |
| 7 | r/MGTOW just got removed. Is Reddit's Moderators biased towards blue-pilled ideas?As far as I'm aware the Reddit Mods have never removed a major Blue-pilled subreddit even once. It's not like anyone's talking about removing r/TheBluePill or r/Feminism. Because it's not about 'the war of the pills'. It's about violation of rules. If a sub has frequent instances of hate speech, slurs, harassment, persistent and clear prejudice against certain groups simply for existing (eg. women, jewish people, fat people, trans people) - its gonna get quarantined eventually. I don't frequent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 03:45 PM |
| 8 | Why can’t each gender see that BOTH sides have their own problems and get along?Yup, gendered expectations and pressures suck for everyone. Why we continue to find any excuse to cling to them is beyond me. There isn't a 'gender war', just a shitty system we all live in. The comments under this OP are Lewis's law all over, though. It's actually kind of funny. OP: "The idea of a gender war is silly, it seems like there are problems for men and women, why are we like this?" [Puts some very reasonable points about issues faced by men and women due to gendered expectations.] The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/20 07:26 AM |
| 5 | It is so much better, healthier and more successful for women to follow the red pill women strategies than the FDSI think using 'healthier' in terms of either of these is pretty dubious. Like, "Its so much healthier to jump off a cliff than it is to attach lead weights to your legs and throw yourself off a boat". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Where do your views on women’s behavior come from?I saw a post on unpopular opinion about American women from someone who has been living in Europe and he said they were narcissistic, shallow, rude and constantly complained. As a European: That isn't the stereotype of American women - thats the stereotype of Americans in general. In fact, the majority of the time when someone is doing an impression or skit of a 'loud, obnoxious, ask for the manager and big themselves up American", it's an American man they're pretending to be. Not hating - half… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: How many of your ex boyfriends were absolute pieces of shit?All the guys I dated were fine, none of them were absolute pieces of shit at all. Mix of not dating a huge amount and good luck, maybe. They've not all been perfect angels sent from heaven, and I don't think 'wholesome' is synonymous with 'good person'. I got ghosted a couple of times, but the impression I got was more that was just a bit of cowardice and laziness rather than being a truly bad sort. Its funny a couple of times on here and elsewhere I've got a "You're a feminist? I'm sorry you ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/20 07:25 AM |
| 1 | What up with fangirls?Teenagers have obsessive tendencies and a rich fantasy life. They're also naturally enraptured by the idea of things (romantic love, sex, etc.) they haven't experienced yet and are generally kind of sheltered - every emotion is new and overwhelming. (Its like how with teenagers every social mishap/bad grade/missed goal in a sports match/'diss' is THE END OF THE WORLD - because their worlds are small and all the feelings are new about therefore 100 times more powerful.) It's a natural development… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/20 05:59 PM |
| 1 | 1 out of 4 Dads are cucksShe’s been hurt, hates men I've actually been pretty lucky dating wise, and I don't hate men. Based on half the shit said in this thread, I'd say I care about men more than most of the people here, because I'm more interested in supporting men who have actual horrific shit happen to them than vilifying women as a whole with 'basically all women...' untrue statistics and further compounding the pain of men who have been lied to by calling them 'cucks'. It almost feels like when she said that men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 09:52 PM |
| 1 | 1 out of 4 Dads are cucksYeah it will likely all be deleted for getting personal, which is probably for the best. But it seemed I was at a point where I had to call out the fact that I think that this whole original post and thread is kind of weird and hate-y, then apparently I'm the dangerous sociopath for trying to highlight that. I actually think this thread is very anti-male, as I just said, but not because of women hating on men. It's like if I made a post about women being the victims of rape, and I talked about h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 03:06 PM |
| 1 | 1 out of 4 Dads are cucksIt's ok, I just think it seems a bit strange to ask to ask a question on an internet discussion comment stream discussing an idea, as opposed to a more chatty immediate irl circumstance where that would be more fitting. I assume you were just trying to be polite, and thats cool, just wasn't sure how really to respond to that. Anyway..... Are you a feminist? Yes. do you believe that there is an unfair sex based wage gap? Yes. (I believe that there is a generalised wage gap, and I believe that the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 11:18 AM |
| 2 | 1 out of 4 Dads are cucksIt would be easier just to ask it than to take up a whole comment asking if you can ask it, but OK I suppose..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 10:58 AM |
| 3 | 1 out of 4 Dads are cucksThis seems a bit better, mathematically, but surely you need to have some sort of data on the likelihood that a person who has not previously cheated will cheat, and the likelihood that a person who has previously cheated will cheat again. Because the latter definitely seems more likely, but unless you actually know how much more likely, you can't really account for that purely with statistical correction. (And that is before you even throw in stuff like individual likelihood of using contracept… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 10:49 AM |
| 2 | 1 out of 4 Dads are cucksHow so? I mean, do you consider the idea of falsified paternity (I hate the word 'cuck') to be due to the way that babies are made and some people being the worst, or do you consider it to be some sort of particular moral failing only applicable to women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 10:38 AM |
| 3 | 1 out of 4 Dads are cucksAs other people are saying - these statistics are being massively misrepresented, and not for the first time. (Just focussing on the times where the assumed father is genuinely deceived about a child he believes is his biologically, though.....) But also, it's interesting how whenever this comes up, it is often presented as somehow a likely moral failing in women/mothers that does not apply to men/fathers. The comments here are not an exception. However - it takes two to tango. The common tongue… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/20 10:11 AM |
| 1 | How many men can afford a stay at home wife?And, most importantly. She doesn't do this because she has to. Or because she can't do anything else. What makes her so special is, she has set aside any career at this point, and set her sights on being the ultimate wife. The ultimate mother. One who gives all. Because she WANTS to. I get where you're coming from in the sense that you appreciate your wife. Thats lovely and great. I mean... it shouldn't be SPECIAL and singular, but its lovely and great. I'm just always cautious about expectation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 11:08 PM |
| 1 | How many men can afford a stay at home wife?I never meant to imply anyone was saying that. And I am doing, thanks. What I mean to generally say is that there is a big middle ground between 'high maintenance money leech lifestyle' and 'abject desperate poverty'. Living off the kind of money you're talking about would be a tall order anywhere, driving a banger with second hand clothes or not. Like, great if that works out for your friend and his wife. But it wouldn't for a lot of people, and not because the wife blows through money and expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 04:14 PM |
| 1 | How many men can afford a stay at home wife?This woman is worth more than any "paycheque" she could ever bring in is, and she's an educated professional. I'm sure my husband would say I'm worth more than my paycheque. If he had to choose between 'having me' and 'having my paycheque', whatever that paycheque was, I'd like to think he'd choose me. Doesn't mean that my paycheque isn't just as useful as his paycheque to both of us when it comes to home/food/lifestyle security. What you seem to be implying is "having her sort your house and st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 03:57 PM |
| 1 | How many men can afford a stay at home wife?But I mean, my husband currently makes £30,000 a year. He could probably make like £35-40 eventually if he went up a few bands. Theoretically if we have a kid, I could quit my job and us live off his wage. It would be technically possible, where we live, people do it. But there would be a lot of penny pinching, we would have to live in a VERY small home, we could never really go anywhere on holiday in this country never mind abroad. Things like going to the cinema would be a huge deal. I'm prett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 03:36 PM |
| 7 | How many men can afford a stay at home wife?I have no idea why people think the whole traditional family arrangement is such an impossible thing to do. The thing is though, it just doesn't fit that under a capitalist system that basically everyone could do x/y/z and make 150k a year. Not even the majority of the middle class. The reason that only a small minority of families can have a comfortable lifestyle off one person's income isn't to do with bad career advice - its written into the economic system itself. And I know underneath you s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/20 07:45 AM |
| 4 | What is your opinion on the Meghan Markle & Harry Saga?To be honest, I think that both of them just want well clear of The Firm. Because of course they do. Why you'd marry into it in the first place is beyond me. I remember when I was younger my dad joking that if I tried to marry one of the princes, he'd have me sectioned. My personal suspicion is that she felt OK about it all and that she could deal with the bullshit when they got married, but after having a kid the reality of what protecting that child (from the weird fucked up emotionally stunte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 06:45 PM |
| 5 | It gets harder to date after high schoolI always got the impression school kids mainly date 'within their group'. Like, the popular kids date the popular kids. The sporty kids date the sporty kids. The drama kids date the drama kids. The academic kids date the academic kids unless they're too focused on their studies. I mean, I personally didn't experience this - because I went to a girls school that wasn't that local, so I basically didn't speak to any boys I wasn't related to until I was 18. But as an adult I've worked in mixed scho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 06:39 PM |
| 2 | The problem isn't that there are too many nice guys, the problem is that there aren't enough nice womenendlessly availing to others they are going to go under I think its about how you're 'availing'. Are you 'nice' because you genuinely believe it is your role in life to actively improve the lives of others, or are you 'nice' because being a polite pushover is the path of least resistance in life? The former its sort of hard to 'go under' on, because the actions themselves are kind of the goal (though burnout could be a real issue if you are too self sacrificing about it all), but the latter is g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/20 08:17 AM |
| 2 | Couples who split chores equally DON'T have less sex. The previously posted study was based on outdated data.I dunno man - assuming of course you're both attracted to each other as a baseline, I think for adult couples in the real world, that is a thing. Anecdotally - my husband and I tend to clean on Sundays. The rest of the day we spend on leisure activities - often one of those is fucking. If one of us was cleaning the house all day, we wouldn't have as much of that leisure time, so the possibility of fucking will be reduced. Not because we'd only have sex if the house was spotless (and actually it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 10:13 PM |
| 2 | Couples who split chores equally DON'T have less sex. The previously posted study was based on outdated data.In the sense that if they don't get any money for it they'll starve to death, I suppose? I just know that I've known a lot of people in academics (primarily humanities, but also social sciences and hard sciences), and - apart from the heads of faculty and other non academic positions - all the ones in the humanities and social sciences have been broke as fuck. Like, I know of philosophy academics with multiple publications in top journals who write them in between doing take-out deliveries, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Couples who split chores equally DON'T have less sex. The previously posted study was based on outdated data.But I also don't believe doing more chores lessens her stress thus it allows more free time for more sex. But surely more free time is going to allow more time for sex? Because if one of you spends all day cleaning the home, there is no time for sex that day. But if you both spend half a day cleaning the home, there is a free afternoon right there where you might decide to fuck. Or go shopping, or game, or play badminton, or whatever - but fuck is going to be one of those possibilities. Surely i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 09:54 PM |
| 5 | Couples who split chores equally DON'T have less sex. The previously posted study was based on outdated data.If you want easy money, or well...... any money, there are far better ways to go about that than social sciences research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 09:45 PM |
| 2 | Couples who split chores equally DON'T have less sex. The previously posted study was based on outdated data.Or some other study that had a sample size of 500 men and 50 women or something like that. First of all, don't get me wrong - there are some really shitty researchers who fuck up for silly reasons. And there are some pretty glaring holes in the current peer review system. BUT generally when for example someone has a group split like that, it's not because they're idiots going "hurr durr, is sample size a thing?" or "what is a control variable?..... nah I can't be bothered thinking about it". It'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/19 09:41 PM |
| 2 | The problem with Alpha, Beta and Omega(long post warning).Its almost like some dude's classification of wolf behaviour in the 90s is a bullshit model to hang an even semi-comprehensive understanding of human beings and human interaction from. Sometimes a theory needs just a bit of clarification to reconcile. Sometimes you need to throw the baby out with the bathwater, because fuck that baby, that baby didn't know shit. The "Alpha/Beta/Omega" understanding of human social structure is the latter. "FUCK 100s MAYBE 1000s OF YEARS OF SOCIETY. FUCK RESEARCH… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/19 07:05 PM |
| 4 | Why is there a belief that less attractive men treat women better?If you mean actual London as in the city, thats less attractive/unattractive and more 'Londoners will flat out ignore you, that is how they survive in the constant distraction hell that is London'. Source: Northern english person who lived in London for a couple of years. But yeah, ditto: Attractive and unattractive men have always been equally polite and helpful to me, as in sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't. It doesn't seem to be based on conventional attractiveness, just some peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 10:10 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] how come jerking to porn "damages" male brains but high N-count doesn't "damage" female brains?You should probably take that apparent inconsistency/hypocrisy up with them then, instead of making a blind statement " 'Loads of' people who think x also think y, these things seem inconsistent to me, why are you all doing that?" to a general group. Because that person might well have a reasoning or argument to explain how their statements were compatible. Or they might not - whatever. But asking a load of people who said neither of those things 'how can a person say both these things?' in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/19 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Why do guys on TRP claim women cant love a guy?Yes, we need to fire all those incompetent female GPs that abuse their male patients to the point of psychological trauma. Er........ wuh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/19 07:35 PM |
| 0 | Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men?At least they should stop getting in the way of those who are attempting to deal with the issue or those who are trying to create pressure valves for those guys to vent so they can feel like someone is hearing without judging them. Can they vent without making it all about how angry they are at women who won't do what they want, though? Because thats the problem, really, isn't it? If 'venting' means sitting around in a circle and passing the talking stick about how you feel - cool, do what you n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 10:19 PM |
| 2 | Female entitlement exists; it just manifest itself differently than its widely frowned upon male equivalent and there’s far more political advocates for it[Unfortunately, many productive members of society, primarily male tax payers are increasingly expected to pay more in taxes and contribute more to the welfare state] The 'men have more money and therefore pay more taxes, so really its unfair on them' argument is always an..... interesting one. Also I'm not sure what 'increasing welfare state' you're referring to, because it sure as shit isn't in the US or the UK. Sadly. "Have you heard that people can claim additional welfare/tax breaks to supp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/19 09:47 PM |
| 0 | CMV - The 'anger phase' is just a term for a particular kind of reactionary misogyny, which is part of a wider and more common form of misogyny, and the only cure is feminism.Isn't that.... kind of what this does? Empathises with how the expectations society ingrains in us (in this case, men in particular) could cause anger, resentment and 'acting out' against others. Or is anything other than prostrated apologies and a promise never to do it again 'not empathising'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 09:06 PM |
| 2 | Why Conventionally Attractive Women in "Male Entertainment" MatterLifetime Channel No. Daytime TV Daytime TV is kind of different in the UK (characters are more likely to be 'normal' type people than primetime), but I assume you mean cheesy US/aussie soaps etc.? Sex and The City I mean.... Sex and The City had a lot of very plain/not conventionally attractive men in it? From my vague memories of Sex and The City, particularly who I remember the main partners being: Charlotte ends up with a man who is facially decent looking, but short, chubby and bald. Before … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 09:52 AM |
| 0 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Its funny because I literally just said this but: The 'for men who say they want to go their own way, they definitely seem to spend a lot of time obsessing about women' thing is almost passé at this point. The explanation they give is "Well I've just been pilled, I'm readjusting, we've come to the realisation of how much women have fucked us up, so its natural to want to talk about it". But I'm not convinced the reason is that (surprise surprise), its not about wanting to be away from women at a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 07:36 AM |
| 11 | r/femaledatingstrategy is basically reddit version of shitty cosmopolitan magazine advice except its with "adult" language and poorly mirroring TRP lingo.I've mentioned on here before I think, but: I remember when I was at school, other girls going on about how they were going to marry old, incredibly rich, men and wait for them to die. None of them (I don't have facebook anymore, but based on back when I did, plus what I hear through the grape-vine) actually did. I think the reason for that particular banter was: - Being cheeky ass teenagers saying the thing you're not supposed to say, basically edge-lord-ing because its fun. - That we understoo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/19 02:08 PM |
| 7 | Should Western Men Choose Eastern Women?Honestly, when I see these kind of posts, it makes me think it must be pretty rough to be an eastern woman in the west. Getting asked out constantly by all these guys who've heard dating eastern women is the way to get yourself a submissive traditional girlfriend. And then after a couple of dates being like 'Oh, its another one of them, what a waste of time and effort' and having to explain that - no - you're just like everyone else and end it. Must be so annoying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/19 10:03 AM |
| 2 | Has men's standards of desired attractiveness in women always been so basic?I’ve only talked to guys at my uni I had no luck with guys until I was post-uni. I think until then they just saw me as 'the surrogate little sister' 'just see you as a friend' type, bit too 'weird' to date (talk a lot similar to your anxiety/nervousness), not what they thought they were into, or whatever. Eventually something seemed to click and guys were feeling it. Dated quite a few, getting married next month. My point is - you're young, don't sweat it and catastrophise 'I'm obviously repuls… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 02:23 PM |
| 1 | How can women be miserable in today's society?Lots of reasons, but just to challenge the assumptions made: While many men are the same, if I see somebody that looks hopelessly depressed it's always a dude (you don't even need to see it you can feel that despair from across the room). More women are diagnosed with depression (yes possibly because they feel more able to approach doctors, but still), more women attempt suicide. So obviously there are plenty of very miserable women, even if you're not seeing them. As a possible explanation, con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/19 03:58 PM |
| 1 | What are personality/character traits that typically lead to people being miserable in relationships?In terms of struggling to maintain relationships, there are the ones that are your bog standard 'difficult to be around' traits - Difficulty regulating your emotions (including anger/aggression), lack of personal identity and putting that onto others, poor social/communicative skills, pettiness, control-freakery, intense laziness. AKA the things that also likely make that person difficult to be friends with/related to/work with. Then with relationships there is also the "goes for people who you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/19 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Being a young women isnt as fun as people on here make out.Being married puts more pressure on a guy to succeed. In real world terms though - in terms of actual survival and lifestyle, it wouldn't matter which of my partner or I lost our job in a permanent sense, we'd be equally fucked either way. Part of the reason I've changed my career into more 'a profession' is so that I can afford to, like...... have a home and children. I also care about what I do, but I certainly don't do it for shits + giggles or social kudos (because its very hard and I'm goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/19 03:27 PM |
| 4 | “Man who does not understand consent has right to pursue sex, court rules” in the U.K.It used to. It doesn't anymore. The normal understanding of the word changed when 'incels' became a community. As a self identifier, it is now associated with a certain mindset and belief system. Like, if you went on to an incel forum/subreddit/discord/whatever and started to say "I find it hard to find sexual partners, but also I don't blame women, don't have very extreme views about sexual attraction, am not obsessed with my own perceived physical failings and hope that I will have sex some da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/19 05:29 PM |
| 3 | “Man who does not understand consent has right to pursue sex, court rules” in the U.K.People who have trouble finding sexual or romantic partners =/= 'incels' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/19 05:13 PM |
| 2 | If traditional gender roles were so good for women, how come it is almost exclusively women who want to abandon them in favor of equality, while it is mainly men who support them?If they come back with their friends/try to come back at you, you didn’t put the fear of God in them enough. Teenagers can be silly, but they generally have to logical capacity to realise that it doesn't matter how much of a stone cold psycho you are - if there are 5 of them and they have knives, they're probably still going to come out on top. But then youth knife crime is a massive thing around here, so. And also I mean the ideal is NOT having to spend a year at the scary referral school. Also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/19 04:18 PM |
| 4 | If traditional gender roles were so good for women, how come it is almost exclusively women who want to abandon them in favor of equality, while it is mainly men who support them?But probably stems from the fact that unlike mainstream fake nicey-nice culture, I think that a lot of disputes ought to be solved by a good brawl instead of bitching at each other, gossiping, and talking shit behind each other’s back like what is so common today. Or you could just - like - be an adult. I've never hit anyone or been hit by anyone. My boyfriend has never hit anyone or been hit by anyone. Ditto my brother. Ditto my best male friend. (Minus kiddie squabbles, but that is gender neut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/19 03:07 PM |
| 3 | This is why women shouldn't shame men for looking "creepy"Quite aside from the whole "what the hell has this story to do with 'creep shaming'?" thing - or that guys who look creepy are "probably successful and would make good husbands" (just as an example)? What is this about? Like, if a woman says "that guy over there keeps looking at me/following me, its creepy, I don't like it" I'm supposed to say "Hey! I'll have you know he is probably successful and you would be lucky to marry him!"? I mean, maybe he is actually a perfectly lovely fellow who spend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/19 05:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No, gender roles are not coming back.The solution is less income inequality, less poverty, raise wages. Plus more work flexibility for both parents, less workplace cultures that judge and disadvantage parents - especially fathers - for asking for more flexible or reduced hours. Personally, I don't have kids yet, but my actual 'have to be in work' hours are less than my partner, so I'd be able to pick up any kids from after-school club or football practice or whatever. Though I have more work hours than him in total if you include w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/19 03:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: No, gender roles are not coming back.Its funny, I've worked with kids a lot and when both parents of a child worked and someone needed to come in for whatever reason, I used to often call dad first - just for shits and giggles. "I'm really sorry because I know you're at work, but someone needs to come and pick up little Timmy." "Oh OK. Couldn't you get hold of my wife!?!?! She normally has her phone on her at work so thats a bit strange." "No I was going to try her number if I couldn't get hold of you. So are you coming in or what?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/19 06:39 AM |
| 2 | CMV: No, gender roles are not coming back.I personally am horrified that these children's fathers would leave them at home alone like this, at such a young age, while they went to work. Really, its fine to have a career, but at the end of the day if his kids finish school at 3 o'clock or whatever, then he needs to find a way to find a job that will let him go home to look after them then, or pay for some child care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/19 06:51 PM |
| 2 | Do you wish you could be 100% provided for by your partner?Yes and no. If my partner had a great job that meant that we and any potential children could have a good lifestyle - maybe. I have a vocational profession, and I care about it, but it would nice to have the option to take as much time off or go as part time as I want after having kids without worrying about money. Plus I don't think that I need to work to be valid as a human being or have meaning - not because I'm a woman but because that isn't how I see work. I'd still 'do stuff' (voluntary, p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/19 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Is Sexual Liberation a facade?You have to understand what both 'sexual liberation' and 'body positivity' are. They're about the conscious decision to cast out socially conditioned shame. Thats the point - not to fuck loads of people and wear skimpy dresses, though a side-effect is that you can do that if you want and not have to feel bad about it for no reason. Women's sexual desires aren't a new thing. Sexual liberation is about women's sexual desires being okay. Wanna fuck that dude? That fine, because having sexual desire… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/19 03:31 PM |
| 3 | For most women the goal/highlight of a “fun night out” is not sex, at least not as much as that seems to be the goal for men.I'm not sure what particular club we went to that night - I've been to my fair share over the years. There are always the odd people making out, yes, but then a lot of people are just dancing or joking around or absorbing the atmosphere or whatever. I've definitely seen bouncers stationed at bathroom entrances, especially in bigger clubs, but I can't say that I've noticed it to be a standard thing. I mean, the gay clubs I've been to will often have unisex bathrooms anyway (or gender signs just o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/19 05:53 PM |
| 3 | For most women the goal/highlight of a “fun night out” is not sex, at least not as much as that seems to be the goal for men.Going to the club was about dancing, drinking. Take a couple of words out and there you go. The bouncer didn't let ugly people in. That wasn't the sort of club I used to go to. That kind of club (emphasis on looking nice and parading rather than on fun) is lame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/19 03:46 PM |
| 6 | For most women the goal/highlight of a “fun night out” is not sex, at least not as much as that seems to be the goal for men.You feel what I'm saying? Also, could the girlfriend not go? I could see he's not going to go if she won't. Either she was going (but I mean, he could have sex with her without going) or she was away or something, I don't remember it was a long time ago. I see what you're saying, but thats what I mean. The sound of the music (live, or in a way that you couldn't have at home without seriously pissing off your neighbours), dancing, just the general atmosphere of being in a place that is different,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/19 03:34 PM |
| 11 | For most women the goal/highlight of a “fun night out” is not sex, at least not as much as that seems to be the goal for men.I remember when I was a student. We were going to a club. I asked my male friend/housemate, who was in a relationship at the time with my other/friend housemate, if he wanted to come. He was like "I have a girlfriend". I said "Yes.... I'm not asking if you want to fuck, I'm asking if you want to come out to a club?" and he was like "Why would I go to a club if I'm not meeting someone to have se with?". Honestly, I hadn't even considered the idea of having sex that night (I was never a one-night-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/19 03:23 PM |
| 2 | When you hear the phrase "Good personality" regarding men and attractiveness...A man with "good personality" will always not be a psychopath to me. Well, yes, but there is some middle ground between 'not a sociopath' and 'outstanding moral values at all times'. In terms of examples, the middle ground between 'wouldn't necessarily hand in money they found' and 'kicks puppies for fun'. I mean, personally I think you've hit the language thing here by switching from 'good personality' to 'good man'. To me, if you say someone is a 'good man' (or 'good woman' or 'good person'), … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/19 11:15 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Paternity tests should legally trump birth certificatesIf they're not the parent then they should not have the right to demand parental rights. Any visitation should be negotiated on a voluntary basis at that point. The biological father has rights and shouldn't have to share his child with another man. I am philosophically viewing this as someone in a country where the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child have been ratified, as opposed to the US, where they are not. The big difference in thinking behind the legislation here is that in the UK an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/19 11:39 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Paternity tests should legally trump birth certificatesYes, lying to someone and saying they are the biological parent of your kid when they're not is a really really shitty thing to do. Top level moral crime. You're opening a can of worms if you make it 'trump birth certificates' though. What about couples who use sperm donors? Or adopt? What is the legal position of parents in this situation - could they just change their mind? What about men who find out they were not in-fact the biological father, but have been parenting the kid. Do they suddenl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/19 10:56 AM |
| 5 | Why do women alienate fathers from seeing their kids?Our legal system says women own the child and you can fuck off and pay for it. I know legal systems differ, but I'm pretty sure no legal systems anywhere in the west - including the US - say this. You can argue about court biases all you want, and we do, but that isn't even close to being the actual law. And it's silly nonsense - that detracts from any biases that actually exist - to pretend it is. For a start, you can't legally 'own' humans. Even if you 'made them'. I say this because people ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/19 07:59 AM |
| 9 | Discussion - men, kids, abandonment, etc.It is amazing to what extent this is still a thing. I have a friend who has two kids, and she works with a lot of other women with kids. She'll mention that her husband is taking them to the doctor, or sorting out their school uniform or whatever, and she said they act like he is a literal father of the year saint (even though it's not like he does more of those things than her). "Your husband remembered that your children need to have a lift to their swimming lesson at 10am on Saturday and clea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/19 05:23 PM |
| 7 | If men don't want to be dominated by their wife, they should help with the household chores moreI was going to say "I don't know why people struggle with this so much....", but then actually I do, because I have done, and I get it. Human beings have this thing where we always feel like we're the one that does the most - because we only see things from our viewpoint, and we see all the work that we do but only a portion of the work that other people do. In relationships, in families, in workplaces and beyond. Its like how if you go into a multi-professional workplace/system, every professio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/19 10:56 AM |
| 2 | Men and women can be friendsI have male friends. Often we've been friends when we're both single, when one of us is single, when we're both attached. As I said in another comment on here a while ago: I would not be surprised or horrified to find out that some or a majority of my male friends have thought about my boobs. This does not bother me. One of my male friends, when we were staying in the same place, was like 'fuck buddies?' and I was like 'nah, not into that', and he went off to try and have sex with someone else a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/19 08:43 AM |
| 1 | Shaming of legally permissible age-gap sexual relationships--why don't the laws reflect the cultural zeitgeist?Because it's called the 'age of consent' for a reason. People who are not at a stage of mental and emotional maturity where they can consent to sex, cannot consent to sex. Sex without consent is rape. Rape is a crime. People over the age of 16 or 18 or whatever the age of consent is where you are (its a rather arbitrary cut off point yes, considering people develop at different rates, but there are also reasons regarding human cognitive development that it is always around that age) are able to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/19 03:11 PM |
| 2 | Why is the message given to men and women completely different? Men are told to improve themselves, women are told they are perfect just the way they areI'm pretty good at presenting speech - I took Speech & Drama lessons as a kid and I never really get nervous with public speaking. Plus I teach, so I've had to get good at 'commanding a room'. I come across in person better than I write. Obviously its context dependent - with my friends I will sometimes dip into slangy 'buffy-speak' type speaking because that is how we talk, with my family my speech is probably quite 'masculine' and regional (think Noel Gallagher with big sweeping dry humour ane… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/19 09:35 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Why are so many upper-middle class white women alcoholics?This. Plus repression. Lots of repression. (Source: Am English) Upper middle class people can afford booze easily. Factor in 'and you can't see me as some street drunk, this is a $20 bottle of sauvignon blanc, drunks don't think wine like this.....' handy self deception, and bingo you've got yourself a drinking problem. I don't think that actually the women are more likely to drink problematically than the men in those circles though. The classic stereotypes are just different, because the class… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/19 01:27 PM |
| 4 | Why is the message given to men and women completely different? Men are told to improve themselves, women are told they are perfect just the way they areMy husband took a day off work at my father's request to discuss something important, he had to get a hospital bed and wanted his advice. I had worked in the mattress industry for 9 years, my husband knew nothing. My dad/family aren't as explicitly bad as this, they wouldn't generally every say anything like "you can't do that, you're a girl", its more.... implied. Both my grandads were engineers of sorts, I loved watching the one who lived near us make stuff in his tool shop. But it was definit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/19 01:12 PM |
| 8 | Why do you get upset that men don't continue being your friend if you don't have sex with themI can't imagine being so hyper-masculine or hyper-feminine that the primary discriminator as to 'people I have most in common with' is gender. Obviously I can't answer for men, but the guys I've wanted to get with who it hasn't happened with, I've just eventually just sort of got over it and stopped thinking of them that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 09:01 PM |
| 6 | Why do you get upset that men don't continue being your friend if you don't have sex with themI mean, I get more from interaction with other human beings than that, so it can't be universally true. But I can't speak for anyone else on the planet. Men also sometimes make great art and stuff like that, so part of me suspects they have more depth than 'sex hole and beer buddy'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 08:17 PM |
| 15 | Why do you get upset that men don't continue being your friend if you don't have sex with themI have male friends where we've never been a thing, been friends while both going out with various other people etc. And maybe I'm just naive and its all been a long-con ploy to get into my pants, but also maybe not. The thing is.... that men give a rats ass about them as people If you give a shit about your same sex friends, then you're able to give a shit about someone without fucking them. I honestly struggle to get my head around how you could enjoy the company of and warm friendly conversat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 07:55 PM |
| 26 | Why do you get upset that men don't continue being your friend if you don't have sex with themSue and Tom are not really friends. Tom wants to be with Sue romantically/sexually, and Sue is hanging out with Tom platonically. If Tom don't want to be friends with Sue and hang out with her anymore because she isn't into him, that is his prerogative. I don't see what her fucking Bobby has to do with it, other than in Tom's head. He doesn't want to care for someone who makes it clear she will entertain someone else more. Aka 'He wants to be with Sue and is upset that she is with someone else'.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 07:28 PM |
| 7 | A discussion, not a debate. I recently held back from giving an innocent zero further intent compliment, and thought to myself, well isn’t this ironic.I mean, personally I am against commenting on people's appearance unless they're a good friend... and even then it depends on the circumstance and your knowledge of them as a person. I do sense often with older men especially its absolutely not supposed to be 'please sex with me' or 'please feel uncomfortable', but that there is kind of a kick from talking to a much younger woman about how she looks. Which is pretty uncomfortable. I actually always hate getting told I don't look my age - I shoul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/19 08:45 PM |
| 3 | A discussion, not a debate. I recently held back from giving an innocent zero further intent compliment, and thought to myself, well isn’t this ironic.I don't think it does though? I mean, when we communicate through speech, we always mean to communicate something, and therefore have whatever agenda we have behind that communication. Even if you just say 'thank you' to the person serving you, that communication is intended to show appreciation for what they have just done for you. And to make them feel valued and respected through that. Complimenting someone's appearance in those circumstances..... means and does what exactly? Maybe it's to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/19 07:30 PM |
| 7 | A discussion, not a debate. I recently held back from giving an innocent zero further intent compliment, and thought to myself, well isn’t this ironic.“She’s very cute, but her hair looks like shit, she looks tired, she’s wearing those work clothes,” Thats kind of the point though - she probably isn't in the mood for compliments and flirting, she is trying to serve burgers. I obviously can't speak for all women, but when I felt like that, I wasn't really in the mood for 'Oh I'd love to look pretty despite this!', you just aren't in that headspace. But, I’m 33. I’m sure younger guys do hit on her. I'm 33 as well, was in my early 20s during the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/19 06:31 PM |
| 20 | A discussion, not a debate. I recently held back from giving an innocent zero further intent compliment, and thought to myself, well isn’t this ironic.As someone who used to be the young woman who got things said to me working in retail - its good you checked yourself, and it probably would have made her day 1% worse rather than 1% better. Because: 1) Yes, it sounds like flirting. Even if you say "I'm not flirting", or make it clear you're not expecting for her to meet you round the back in 10 minutes - it still sounds like flirting. 2) The customer-worker dynamic makes that shit really awkward. She is paid to be polite to you - whatever you s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/19 05:40 PM |
| 1 | why do men think feminism is dating advice?What has this to do with the current conversation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/19 09:45 PM |
| 2 | why do men think feminism is dating advice?I mean... chemical engineering (or a theoretical and methodological understanding of chemistry) really does prescribe 'how to do a synthesis reaction' in ways that feminist theory doesn't to 'how to man/woman'..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/19 09:34 PM |
| 6 | why do men think feminism is dating advice?So that is the point of feminist theory: "That woman looks weird [she has blue hair and has not groomed herself in the way most attractive to men, and I am used to women grooming themselves to be most attractive to men]. I don't like it." If you're going to be an aware intellectual human being you should probably consider why that is weird to you, what that means that it is weird to you, why you expect that women should be attractive to men or you should give them the stink eye. You don't have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/19 09:27 PM |
| 3 | why do men think feminism is dating advice?Not really. It's what sociologists do. Feminists are not really the academy and if they want to do academic studies, they should get into the academy where no ones cares if they are feminists or not. "Just do the research like anyone else." Wut? I mean.... there are feminist perspectives and analysis in various disciplines. I don't really understand this point. No proofs, of course. "Men and women are different" does not mean The Man is the reference and The Woman is a deviation from that refere… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/19 09:14 PM |
| 7 | why do men think feminism is dating advice?Well 'doing away with' more than redefining. You get to pick and question your role, and not just accept the role that others put upon you. It is redefining roles in that sense. But it seems a lot of people seem to think that means 'So women make the decisions now' or 'So you can't criticise a woman now' or whatever. No. The whole point is that you figure out your own roles as considerate individuals rather than approach the opposite sex with the same idea of prescribed boxes, but just slightly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/19 08:56 PM |
| 6 | why do men think feminism is dating advice?How is critical analysis about preserving the status quo? Surely the big clue is in the word 'critical'. Less "Women should wear overalls and walk 5 metres in front" and more "You know that time that you spoke your mind at a bar and everyone praised your guy friend for doing the exact same but made out you were an uppity bitch? Maybe you're not actually a bad person, but they have some expectations about what women should be and generally society tends to police itself like that." You don't have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/19 08:47 PM |
| 9 | why do men think feminism is dating advice?It seems pretty obvious that feminism is about redefining the roles of women in society. Yes and no. Feminism, at least the broadest modern definition most seem to be working under, is about the critical analysis of power dynamics. So: "Society is built on an understanding of 'man' as the whole baseline individual and women as a deviation of men, coming from the classical understanding and the way that law/culture/etc. grew from that. This permeates the language and fabric of society to substant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/19 08:30 PM |
| 2 | Sexually liberated women will make bad wivesYou seem more to generally mean 'feminists' than 'sexually liberated women', so I'm primarily going to address that (as a feminist woman): > Reason 1 hostility to the foundation of marriage I mean.... marrying someone who doesn't want to get married is a bad idea. But as a feminist who is getting married - if anything I am more prepared to put in work in order to assure my marriage doesn't become 'toxic', because I am more aware of the issues that a traditional approach to marriage can cause. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/19 07:38 AM |
| 2 | Older women can be pretty darn sexist when it comes to 'older man younger woman' relationships.However, I just believe that if you're looking for an explanation for why large numbers of women feel that way, undermining competition, which is part of human nature and something we see in men and women, is a much better explanation than all these women having bad experiences. After all, most younger women don't date older men and most men don't actively pursue women that are say 20 years younger than they are (Mainly because they don't think they can get them). So, if you are trying to pick o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/19 08:00 PM |
| 3 | Older women can be pretty darn sexist when it comes to 'older man younger woman' relationships.But I mean.... in terms of the post you replied to, she said 'Its not that'. This is the problem here. You can say to those things you listed: "I don't like when men go for much younger women because I remember as a young woman older men always trying to manipulate me or go for me because I was naive, so I don't like to see it happening." "Women should do whatever they want with their life, but you can't escape from the making yourself about 'looking after a man' is heavily socially conditioned … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/19 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone find it ironic how reddit likes to shit on gender studies, but gender studies is literally what we're doing?Indeed. I love science. I'm training as a science teacher. I think that this mentality is the worst in terms of getting people into science and creating a scientifically literate population. Which - you know - as people who generally profess to be passionate about science you think they'd care about. If you bat around the idea that 'science is for smart people, the other things are soft alternatives for people who can't understand science', that tells everyone who isn't already a STEMlord that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/19 06:46 AM |
| 0 | Discussion: The UK's NHS reveals that one in ten are mistaken about the identity of their fathermajority of the time doing it with some guy who is cheating on his wife I was just going via logic. Their parents are married. Most of the people in their parents age group and/or social circle would be married, or about to get married, etc. It seems more likely than not that the majority of the time their mothers/fathers were cheating with their friends or colleagues in the same position or whatever. The classic joke is always 'check the milkman' - the milkman is probably married. In the OP I s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/19 03:39 PM |
| -1 | Discussion: The UK's NHS reveals that one in ten are mistaken about the identity of their fatherI had a biology teacher back in the early 00s who used to say that back in the day (he was pretty old, don't remember if he said when) they used to do blood type testing as a fun 'this is how genetics works' experiment for a while. But then in the 80s they stopped it because of the AIDS crisis (I mean I'm sure they took precautions for blood born illness stuff before, but I think that tipped it over into something that just couldn't be done in a school lab setting). He said that in almost every … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/19 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Guy gets publicly humiliated by a group of girls for hitting on their friend yet according to AITA, he's the bad guy.So I've seen the other post of her reply now, which shines more light on the situation, but even without that: his friend tells him to leave as apparently the girl looks uncomfortable but he continues (I also feel he should have left when his friend told him to but sometimes it isn't always easy to tell when the girl feels uncomfortable) I think that your friend saying to you "Hey, this girl seems uncomfortable, stop" is a good indicator, if you yourself are unable to tell when a girl looks unco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/19 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Do moms raise their sons to be beta?Do you think James Damore would have been fired from google if he was a woman and sent that memo? Yeah. As a man, I see the other side of men when they aren't around a woman. You simply haven't because you're a woman and so guys change their behavior around you. You think this is just how guys are, but it's not. But I mean, even if 99.9% of guys are into 'locker room talk' type banter.... so what? Find a locker room. Interesting you bring up Damore, because I think that - like Damore - there mig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Do moms raise their sons to be beta?Men have cried at my workplaces. Never seen them pulled into HR for it. Its kind of a thing I've seen on this part of reddit and on line in general the whole 'women cry in the toilets all the time and everyone feels sorry for them, hysterical weirdos' thing. But women totally make fun of or raise eyebrows at other women for crying in the toilets, particularly if they do it frequently. Not if something really awful has happened, or someone is clearly having a really hard time. But if someone hide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 07:19 PM |
| 0 | Do moms raise their sons to be beta?Why do you want to call women out for menstruating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Do moms raise their sons to be beta?But I mean.... I can't tell inappropriate jokes in the workplace either? I actually temp at the moment and one of the most annoying things about it is that you don't really know what the culture and the communication of that workplace is, and by the time you've figured it out you're gone. Am I allowed to use this milk? If I joke about a student/client/whatever interaction will that be seen as professional steam blowing or as if I don't respect them? Will I be seen as more rude if I make conversa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Do moms raise their sons to be beta?I'd raise my sons to be compassionate, put higher emphasis on doing the right thing than competition, teach them to value considering and understanding other viewpoints over the success of forcing their own. From what I see of trp/manosphere/etc. over the years - that is a resounding yes, then. But I'd instil absolutely the same values in my daughters. Because I think those are good values for them to take out into the universe. Not because I want them to 'provide' for me or some shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Do moms raise their sons to be beta?See, you, as a woman, have the privilege of men walking on egg shells around you. Since you enjoy this privilege, it's invisible to you. Men, however, do NOT have this privilege, so we are very aware when we see it. Can you give examples for this? Because I'm struggling to think of an example of something men seem to not do/say around/to me, that I would do/say to a man or another woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 04:52 PM |
| 2 | To one-sided pro-choice women: what would you do if you got pregnant?I mean, in all of them I'm assuming it was me at these points in my life (I didn't really do hook-ups and FWB, but I can suspend disbelief that I might have done)? Like, I'm not a fictional other person who was doing these things and also kind of wanted a kid at that point and was prepared to go it alone? Definite yes to 1 and 2. 3 depends on how we both feel at that point (discuss it first), but not necessarily either way. I had a scare similar to number three, about 4-5 years ago. I made the d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/19 04:48 PM |
| 9 | [CMV] The majority of men don't have varying tastes in womenI think, generally (I'm leaving the racial part out because I've seen research that contradicts that, plus power and beauty expectations which do have an influence if you're looking at groups, etc.), yes. If all things were equal the vast majority of men would fuck [insert Victoria's Secret model] over your average homely chubby girl. But beauty standards do change over time/culture. This is pretty obvious from research and history. People who say what I just said and different forms of 'sociall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/19 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Are men on the autistic spectrum usually seen as undesirable mates by women?But I've seen a lot of blue pillers online throw around autistic as an insult I've seen a lot of people, of all different political leanings/gender ethos/religions/etc. throw around 'autistic' as an insult. And I'm not saying 'The other side do it as well!!!', I'm saying 'Yeah, a misunderstanding about it not being acceptable to use autistic as an insult is pretty pervasive in our society'. Similarly, I have had many 'debates' with people who would never use a racial or gay slur in any context, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/19 01:09 PM |
| 4 | “Emotional labor” exists because there is a fundamental misalignment — is it nature or nurture? Could level-setting expectations even fix the gap?They don't consider the things they have to do to keep the family going - back breaking labour, taking shit from a boss, keeping the water and lights on, fixing and maintaining the home etc - a burden so much as duty or responsibility. I think the big thing is that men and women in couples tend to both do these things. My partner has been through hard times where I've had to step up to being the 'emotional support' heavily. I don't mind - I love him and we're a partnership, he'd do the same for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/19 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Do men have a problem with women being the main caretakers of children?The actual mothers (Thor's mother, Pepper, Hawkeye's wife whatever she is called) seem pretty devoted to their families. Like, Pepper seems into the idea of getting married to and having a kid with Tony, and then she does, and presumably during most of Endgame is the one looking after her while he is off time traveling. If you're talking about 'desire to be a parent', arguably the only character without children who talks about their desire/ability to have future children is Black Widow. If I re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/19 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Do men have a problem with women being the main caretakers of children?None of the women desire a family and it's included in none of the motivations for why they are fighting. BEWARE ENDGAME SPOILERS: The only female original Avenger was 'sterilised' and they made a whole big deal about it, her saying it made her a 'monster' of sorts (hence the controversy... but the way that could just be unfortunate problematic writing of a valid idea/line is a whole other thing). She sees the avengers, and Clint in particular, as her substitute family and is shown to be devoted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/19 09:39 PM |
| 6 | CMV: TRP is the one platform that gives low value men good advice on how to improve themselves yet instead of being promoted, it gets scorned.The thing that amuses me most about Peterson is the way that the 'STEM-lord and everyone else is inferior waffle' types flock to him. He is a psychology professor who's area of focus was jungian psychoanalysis. He might pretend to be some field melding polymath, but even leading aside my opinion on that (he sure as shit isn't), thats his education and background. Apparently 'hard science or gtfo idiot' doesn't apply when the person is saying stuff you like to hear. Don't get me wrong - I have no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/19 07:22 PM |
| 1 | How many married couples have the wife as long term breadwinner?I don't understand this shit. Right now (as in this few months) I am the primary breadwinner. He has an interview in a few days, and if he gets it, he will be the primary breadwinner. I don't care which of us makes more money. I care that we have enough money to pay for rent and bills and food. Actually had a conversation about it a few days ago. He was like "Will you not be as attracted to/proud of/care about me now I might be changing my career?" (when we met he was hoping for a career in acad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 10:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Society pathologizes and denigrates men's hedonism while lionizing and celebrating women's hedonismThis is, yet again for this sub, a complete mischaracterisation of a minority attempt to celebrate the not norm for that very reason, with the pretence that this makes it somehow the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/19 09:53 PM |
| 2 | What metric(s) can we point to that support Patriarchal Theory and which metric(s) can we look at in order to determine when the patriarchy has ended?Thing is, none of the identity-based legislation that I've seen includes a "this is only in effect until X happens" clause What particular legislation are you talking about (that may 'swing too far') and how so? Because from your OP you're talking legalistically, but it isn't clear what kind of laws or policy you are referring to. If I knew what area and/or method of 'addressing the patriarchy' you were referring to, it might be easier to give you and answer about what metrics of progress may be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Let's discuss "gender gaps"while single father overwhelmingly work full time jobs while also raising a family I've known 3 straight up 'single dads' (ie. with all or the vast vast majority of residence) in my time. None of them worked full time, or really at all, though I'm not sure about one of them as I do not know the typical hours for drug dealers. Honest truth. As far as I can see, single dads are notorious for being feckless criminals who are violent enough to drive the broken mothers away in terror and then ignore … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 09:55 PM |
| 0 | has the massive presence of incel/blackpill ideologyturned this sub into RP/BP/PP against Black pill?it's simply applying the scientific method to our observations of sex Somewhere, somehow through space-time, Aristotle is crying at this comment and wondering why he fucking bothered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/19 05:09 PM |
| 1 | How can men be both stoic and sensitive?It depends. I also enjoy talking about myself, I'm talking about myself right now. I think everyone does though. It's pretty egotistical, but then we all do it. I don't think thats anything to do with stoicism. It's a thing, but it's a separate thing. I like to obsessively analyse my emotions, but I don't 'emotionally react' much. Like if I hurt myself, or someone dies, or whatever - I don't 'react' in the way that is expected, I kind of just deal with it. But I can still spend hours later one w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 07:32 PM |
| 2 | How can men be both stoic and sensitive?Have you ever heard the phrase 'still waters run deep'? Being introverted or not feeling the need to show your emotions doesn't mean not having emotions. As a sensitive stoic (though not a man), to me it means like.... you can have a very private relationship with the things that you find emotionally affecting, it's just that you are.... as I said, private with them, and feel them in a more nuanced way than most others. Like with my wedding. I am having a teeny tiny wedding because the idea of e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 06:12 PM |
| 2 | How can men be both stoic and sensitive?Have you ever heard the phrase 'still waters run deep'? Being introverted or not feeling the need to show your emotions doesn't mean not having emotions. As a sensitive stoic (though not a man), to me it means like.... you can have a very private relationship with the things that you find emotionally affecting, it's just that you are.... as I said, private with them. Like with my wedding. I am having a teeny tiny wedding because the idea of everyone I've ever met standing to observe me be public… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/19 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?its been debunked endlessly. Psychologists dont want to listen. But as I said - evolutionary psychologists are psychologists. Behaviour testing, empirically shakey (as they all are) psychologists. The only difference is the population they're theorising about and therefore testing to learn about is hundreds of thousands of years ago. I mean, from the rest of your post it seems like you're not really talking about modern psychology, 'Freud said' and 'what you've believed in the last 100 years is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?Science can work with these in the same way palaeontologists work with fossils to reconstruct dinosaurs. Or geologists can work with the rock record to reconstruct the shape of the previous continents. Or physicists can work with observations to reconstruct the Cosmological history. You can’t go back and see a T-Rex, or Pangea, or the Big Bang either. But science has worked out what they looked like and how they worked. Evo Psych has similar methods for working out humans evolutionary history ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/19 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?Would make sense other than the fact that I don't believe in 'blank slate' conceptualisations of the human mind in the slightest, and while I am indeed left leaning politically, think the whole 'Noble Savage' idea some people base that preference on is a pile of crap (you don't have to think that free market capitalism is the only thing standing between humanity and a utopian world of peace and love to see that free market capitalism fucks us up, I personally try not to make assumptions about wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Have you read a single book about evolutionary psychology?Yes. I have a psychology degree, and a module on evolutionary psychology was a required part of my course (there was an evo psych guy in the department). I can't remember exactly the books I read, but obviously reading various books and papers on the subject was required (I got a decent mark in it, don't really remember what the coursework and exam were about specifically though). I remember reading The Naked Ape and at least one general text book on the subject. (I've also read The Blank Slate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/19 07:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "Because I have a womb" is a copout that needs to go.I had no idea I could have been using my uterus as a free pass all these years. Its just been sat there, periodically bleeding, when actually I could have been using it as an excuse to do whatever the fuck I wanted, apparently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/19 07:20 AM |
| 7 | On why TRP subreddit often gives a fallacious sense of truthAlso to make you angry, contemptuous and hateful towards women and consequently take them off the pedestal. You see, I'd say something like "Can't you just.... see women as neutral human beings with drives/desires/interests/flaws like you?". But I'd get some response from someone along the lines of 'All about the strategy blah blah blah....' 'Have to because you gatekeep sex blah blah blah' so there is no point. SO in addition to that, I will suggest that actually this doesn't go any way to taki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/19 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Beauty Habits That Aren't Makeup?I've always been pretty good with skincare (moisturise always and properly, sunscreen almost every day and I live somewhere you really don't need it in the winter, cleansing, etc). Not too much for the rest. My hair especially I should do more especially these days (I don't have obvious 'grey' as such because my hair is fine but its definitely a bit duller than it used to be) - my last haircut was in Supercuts and it was last year, lets put it that way. Always had very defined and very black eye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/19 06:27 PM |
| 3 | (Q4Women) What was the hardest "redpill" you had to swallow about men?Men just don't seem to see dirt! In a way, this can be nice if you're a busy working woman, because your husband is unlikely to complain if you live in squalor. He probably won't even notice! I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Honestly though, if you can take apart and assemble a brake mechanism 'intuitively', you should probably also have the logical capacity to understand the physical properties of dust. Which, actually..... shouldn't cleaning be a man job? Because our sensitive socially … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/19 04:10 PM |
| 3 | Q4 Men, What traits do you like in women other than looks?I can out drink a lot of men (I'm not proud of this, but I like a drink on occasion, and tall and Irish heritage and all that....), but after twelve drinks I and anyone but the most hardened drinker am going to be legless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/19 02:58 PM |
| 10 | (Q4Women) What was the hardest "redpill" you had to swallow about men?Maybe because I'm not 'wired to do housework', but I have literally no idea what 'wired to do housework' would feel like. In my household, I'm the 'messy one'. By which I mean that, left to my own devices, even when I eventually notice that I'm sitting on a squalid pile of rubbish, it is still painful and feels tortuous to drag myself away from shiny objects/interesting sounds/whatever is going on in my head to do something about it. I would prefer if everything was nice and tidy and clean, but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/19 10:33 AM |
| 3 | Do women prefer to be viewed as human beings or loved for a character assumed to be naturally prone to no accountablity?it sounds like you are in the first category; 'men and women are ontologically equal' Is..... is anyone not? Because it seems the other argument is 'women are different, as in they have different brains, and it is therefore wrong to hold them morally accountable'. Everyone has a different brain. Even if you follow a sort of gender essentialist argument (more heavily on the side of biological innateness rather than social conditioning), all the evidence implies that individual differences within … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 11:17 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How does ASD (specifically, high-functioning) affect each gender's dating prospects?apparently have my own awkward charm Generally this is the way that the girlfriends/boyfriends of the people I've known with ASD who are or have been in relationships (which is basically everyone I've known with ASD) have seen it. I think to an extent people who are 'different' tend to attract together because they have some understanding of each other. Not the same thing, but for example my boyfriend has OCD and is generally a little.... different.... in his approaches to things, which comes ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/19 09:58 AM |
| 2 | True BluePill alternative to RedPill ?figure stuff out by researching so I can avoid mistakes I think the problem is that with social interaction and finding your way in the world more generally, you have to make mistakes. Both because that is the way you learn, and because it is kind of unavoidable. I think if anything, growing up is about learning to be OK with the fact that you will make mistakes, and not letting your past and present mistakes eat you up. Its the difference between "This went wrong, and its because I used to wron… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/19 11:38 AM |
| 5 | True BluePill alternative to RedPill ?And I've seen plenty of OBSERVATIONS to support this. And I've seen plenty of observations that support the opposite. Where do we go from there? In terms of the role of observation in scientific methodology, then the answer would be to well controlled research, not to..... And when it become easily reproducible thus functional, anecdotal response just aren't appropriate. It isn't easily reproducible in any real way. Because it is unfalsifiable, as I said. If a girl doesn't respond to you, it's b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/19 11:06 AM |
| 5 | True BluePill alternative to RedPill ?OK, well to paraphrase what I said in order to answer your question: 'Blue pill alternatives' to the self building aspect are the massive number of self improvement resources that are not red pill. 'Blue pill theory/data' is every other model and theory of society and social interaction that is not 'the red pill'. If you're looking for a helpful and reliable model that actually (as in not just 'I was looking of this thing so I saw it') explains and predicts men and women in wider society in a kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/19 10:39 AM |
| 8 | True BluePill alternative to RedPill ?Yes, the blue pill sub just makes fun, thats what it's for. But as someone who has been sort of following it for a few years.... It's like David Icke, making claims like 'The Queen of England is part of a reptilian master race'. As someone who does not believe that the Queen of England is a reptile, that she is in fact a human being in a shiny hat, your original response wouldn't be 'here is my list of evidence that Elizabeth II is in fact a human woman', it would be 'Wuh?'. So then David Icke i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/19 09:35 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: if you were in highschool, would you rather date a drug dealer or school president?School president less likely to get into sketchy shit. But then presumably the drug dealer would give me free drugs? Hard call. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/19 03:49 AM |
| 2 | No strings attached: the nature of casual sex in college students.Its not just this sub, it seems to be a whole internet wide and probably beyond that thing. 'Gathering data through questionnaires is pointless and deceptive, even when the study is very upfront about the limitations of its data collection method. Unless of course the study supports what I already believe, in which case it is irrefutable proof.' Have also seen: People bitching about studies using self reported data, saying that they want research that uses better kinds of data, in areas where it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/19 03:33 AM |
| 1 | No strings attached: the nature of casual sex in college students.If you believe no causality - why do you think depressed women engage in casual sex? If you believe in causality - what about casual sex makes women, and not men, distressed? This isn't 'no causality'. That is just flipped causality. Like if x is correlated to y, it doesn't matter if x is the cause of why or why is the cause of x, it's still 'causality'. What you mean is 'Do you believe this is causal in the direction I do?' because you're posing a hypothesis on what direction you think the caus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/19 03:17 AM |
| 2 | What are some things you wish men understood about women/the female experience?Teenage girls don't just worry about how they look because boys might see. Teenage girls worry about how they look constantly all the time. Their fear is not that some guy might not think they're attractive - it's that any other human may see them and think they're not attractive, or they might pass a mirror at some point and not look attractive. It may be on some level down to a belief that to be a valid human they must be attractive to boys/men, if thats what you're getting at. But the lack of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/19 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP, why are you guys so obsessed with feminism?Female Shakespeare is no more going to suddenly appear in the last century (where expectations about what women should do and what is expected of them still exist today) anymore than another male Shakespeare is suddenly going to appear in the last century. There have been great women writers, Woolf being one of them. Obviously there is a question of personal taste, but I think many literary experts (of which I am not) can fill you in. Your argument seems to be 'Well here is a shitty book written… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP, why are you guys so obsessed with feminism?Virginia Woolf would probably shoot herself. I don't think Virginia Woolf would have argued that, once you gave the women a room of her own, none of them were going to write piles of inexplicably popular shite. The argument was that women were often unable to create because of the lack of resources they had available to them as individuals as opposed to wrapped up in domestic support. Not that women, once that was granted, wouldn't be just as capable of being shit at it as men are. Like, if Mich… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 05:27 PM |
| 13 | What are some things you wish men understood about women/the female experience?Case in point look at what girls look like at an all girls high school vs mixed. Went to an all girls school. Girls did not worry any less about their appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/19 04:30 PM |
| 3 | What part of redpillwomen is the 'hard to swallow' part? Here's what I think about the name, and tradition family units.I started off on a couple of bits of the comment, and then it seemed fitting to continue into my whole 'why I don't get RPW' deal. Soz. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/19 06:27 PM |
| 19 | What part of redpillwomen is the 'hard to swallow' part? Here's what I think about the name, and tradition family units.young modern women think men are ATTRACTED to their college degrees .... do they though? Like, I was heavily encouraged and grew up around other girls who were heavily encouraged to get a college degree, and I literally never heard anyone even imply to them 'because that will attract men to you', and I've never heard anyone suggest that they thought that about themselves. They wanted to get college degrees because they wanted a decent lifestyle and a job they got some satisfaction from and/or 'i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/19 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Discussion - The word NICE and How It's AppliedThe first real teacher I had when I was 4-5 banned the word nice because she said she found it insipid and boring. Like for when you're talking about your weekend of your birthday or your friends or whatever. As in "No, it wasn't just 'nice'. Thats a get out word for something that is OK. Actually think about what happened." I think it kind of says it all. "Nice" is a nothing meaningless word, really, which I think is where the Nice Guy TM or "I'm a nice guy" thing comes from. Like... you say pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/19 06:49 PM |
| 7 | Discussion: child support numbers in Finland; on "fairness" of primary caregiver policyThus, we can speculate that these numbers, within certain error margin, indicate the results of divorce-related custody battles in Finland. We can't really, though. The majority of residential/custody arrangements are not court battles but amicably drawn up by the parents. Going from 'mothers primarily have residence' to 'mothers primarily win custody' is a rather significant jump. I can see where you're coming from with Finland being a place where fathers are pretty hands on. But it doesn't nec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/19 05:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is going to help a lot of men make better relationship and marriage decisions.Getting married to someone who has loved you for your money will ultimately cause you to lose thousands of dollars in court from divorce not even 10 years later. If you get with a woman who has baby rabies, you may end up making a fatal reproductive decision that doesn't benefit you. If you wife up a woman who gives you the best sex you've ever had, she could turn around and cheat on you and you already knew it would happen based upon her sexual history. What have any of these things got to do w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/19 08:37 PM |
| 3 | In 68.4% of divorces in my country it's the woman who files for divorce. The average child support rate is 1/3rd of what a child costs. Why do you think the % of women who file is so similar to the US then?And my point was.... well you'd think so, wouldn't you? It's hardly shocking that its relative to income, because for someone who makes a decent chunk of money, 300 would be a ridiculously low amount. I make very little at the moment unfortunately, and I'm always struck in these child support conversations by people severely underestimating the effort and cost that goes into children. Like, if you could just easily add a kid on and give them a good quality of life without lots of resources, that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/19 07:37 AM |
| 4 | In 68.4% of divorces in my country it's the woman who files for divorce. The average child support rate is 1/3rd of what a child costs. Why do you think the % of women who file is so similar to the US then?I mean, if you're making 80k a year..... 300 a month seems fair, if the other parent is doing all or the lions share of the residential parenting - no? I just did the sums quickly and 300 a month seems to be significantly less than a tenth of what you earn. Most people with residential children would be astounded by the idea of less than a quarter of what they earn going on sheltering (bigger home needed)/feeding/clothing/heating (more needed)/educating/entertaining etc. their children. Edit: Be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 10:06 PM |
| 9 | In 68.4% of divorces in my country it's the woman who files for divorce. The average child support rate is 1/3rd of what a child costs. Why do you think the % of women who file is so similar to the US then?Then it would just be another mark of how men wrong women/society with no excuses being made to make them the victims. The poster just said 'lesbians may be more likely to jump into relationships that don't last'. How exactly is that 'making women always the blameless victims'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/19 10:04 PM |
| 4 | If you met someone in their 30's and they never been in a relationship would you consider that a red flag?Just to say: One of my boyfriends friends started a relationship a couple of years ago when he was about 31, with a really nice and fun girl a bit younger than him (who definitely would have other options), they're still together. Up until that point he had never really had anything resembling a relationship and, while I have no idea if he was a virgin, he definitely wasn't putting it around. I think the problem basically was he is a bit shy, kind of built it up to be a 'thing' in his head (I re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 07:28 PM |
| 3 | Redpill Women is toxicSure. Well, you say that, but it makes a pretty bit fucking difference to the point if in fact those students are funding it themselves, and not frittering away massive tax payer investment only to work 3 years and then spend the rest of their lives baking for school cake fares. If they aren't training enough doctors to cover the (less paid because they were less hours) not full time roles, then they could train more doctors - which again the student pays for - and pay them the same. I mean I ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 05:05 PM |
| 20 | Redpill Women is toxicTheir medical school is completely tax payer funded. No it isn't. All medical schools in the UK require students to pay (pretty high globally, but not as high as the US granted) fees. If you took out loans to pay for medical school, and then didn't practice enough to recoup the expenses, you'd owe the money. There is your bullshit 'return of service agreement'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/19 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: do you feel like there are things you can get away with simply because you are a woman?For example, I could work in a kindergarten without having parents worry about their children's safety due to my gender. I think this has changed a lot in the last few years. I currently work in primary (4-11) schools, have worked in them quite a bit over the years, and have also been involved (supporting not being on) teacher training courses. The school I'm in this week for example - guys everywhere, the other TA in this class is a guy, a good third of the teachers seem to be guys, including o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: do you feel like there are things you can get away with simply because you are a woman?Also, every guy I know who has been to Paris says the people are dicks. I thought they were lovely. Servers especially were really nice, and rather than mock my attempt at French, they seemed to find it endearing. Again, I don’t think I’d get the same response if I were with a bunch of dudes in their 20s rather than my giggly girlfriends. To be fair, and it pains me to say this as a British person, I think the French are given an undeservedly bad rep for this kind of thing. Yes 'snooty stuck up … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/19 08:20 PM |
| 2 | No, it's not morally justified for Mackenzie Bezos to receive half the wealth in the divorce.but it’s supposed to compensate for how much money she lost due to her sacrificed earning potentially. Which is most certainly going to be farrrrr lower than tens of billions of dollars. This is why the whole thing is ridiculous. Maybe if she hadn't sacrificed earning potential, or he'd run out of money paying an admin at the beginning, and Jeff had got a job as a middle manager or what the fuck ever, he probably would be earning a thousandth or what he is now anyway. You can't quantify the infl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/19 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Why being yourself works for women.Now for a guy this will not work. If a guy is shy or anxious, he cannot just carry on being like this, as he does not have an abundance of women constantly approaching him. He will need to work on himself before he even speaks to a woman. Thus "Being Himself" will ultimately lead to failure. This isn't what 'being yourself' means. Lets say a woman starts going out socializing at 18 and gets hit on 5 times a day. That is 140 potential guys a month. By the time she is 25, that is 11, 900 potential… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 10:35 PM |
| 0 | The bluepill bubble: am i right or wrong?You mean like.... having some fucked up attachment shit going on or something? Isn't that what therapists are for? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 10:23 PM |
| 2 | The bluepill bubble: am i right or wrong?I was referring to RooshV and the other PUA types who talk about sex like they get no actual enjoyment from the act of sex. I have no problem with people having lots of sex with consenting partners, however that works out for them. Lying to people is bad, but apart from that... whatever. No one really sounds like they're enjoying themselves is my point. Because as you said, surely that is the point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 10:20 PM |
| 6 | The bluepill bubble: am i right or wrong?especially since the casual sex these guys describe sounds so utterly joyless I know right? Sex is supposed to be fun. How have they somehow made sex not fun? Some of the PUA types are the worst/funniest for this. Like 'You have now completed a sex. Success! Pat yourself on the back'. If you need sexual 'conquest' for validation to the point that you've removed any of the actual enjoyment point of sex from the equation.... maybe the answer isn't to further hone your skills but to wonder why you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 01:11 PM |
| 7 | The bluepill bubble: am i right or wrong?Not 'JUST be yourself'. For a start, to an extent it is sometimes good advice. If for example you go on a date nervously overthinking everything and figuring out how to act, you're just going to come across like a weirdo and none of the positive things someone might actually like about you will come through. I mean, there is still a good chance they might not be into you, but at least you've given them something to be into. At other times, that isn't the advice someone needs. While 'Its a bit st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 01:04 PM |
| 3 | How much evidence or suspicion would you guys need before dumping someone for cheating?For a start - woman also do this. All the time. 'Well I mean it looks really bad yeah, but....' because they love him and don't want to face up to what he is doing, or because they're scared of being alone. Denial is not a gendered thing. And people do get paranoid, especially if they've got low self esteem or have been hurt before. I've met so many people who constantly fear their partner is cheating on them due to normal behaviours like socialising or working late or whatever. And I mean, yeah… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 12:39 PM |
| 3 | How much evidence or suspicion would you guys need before dumping someone for cheating?Well if you suspect your partner is cheating on you, there are basically three possible explanations: 1) Your partner is cheating on you. 2) You are paranoid. 3) There is some unlikely random confluence of events that really make it look like they're cheating on you when they're not. Number three is the minority case and at the end of the day it's going to come down to how much you trust the person to keep them at their word, how they act from then onwards etc. Otherwise its 1 or 2. If you are i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 11:55 AM |
| 8 | The bluepill bubble: am i right or wrong?'Dating and relationships are super easy, just be yourself and you'll get laid and be in a loving relationship in no time.' -No one reasonable, ever, definitely never seen it on here. I think you're misunderstanding what 'blue pill' (which we use as a useful short hand for people on reddit who know about red pill and don't think its right, but basically it means 'everyone else who doesn't ascribe to what a small section of people on some corners of the internet think', and that includes conserva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/19 11:27 AM |
| 5 | [Q4USA] My observation about a weird American sexist tidbit.Wait, stressful jobs are stressful? And this is apparently something unique to women? Women have to work, because people have to work (as OP said). Working stacking shelves or sweeping floors is boring. The reason people do more high flying jobs you need more education for and are more involved is that they are less boring and more rewarding, and if you're going to have to work anyway, might as well find it interesting and rewarding. And they pay more, so you're getting more for those 8 hours a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 09:31 PM |
| 3 | [Q4USA] My observation about a weird American sexist tidbit."pianist" that is not a career I mean..... it is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/19 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Would you date someone like your father?God no. I love my dad and he is a great guy, but he is frustrating enough to have as a father never mind as a partner. Like he is wonderful but I don't know what the hell my mother was thinking. Honestly I'm struggling to think of any way in which my dad and my partner are alike. Which is weird because they are both great people who I love and they get on great with each other. I suppose neither are exactly your classic manly man bro. Neither are very interested in 'status symbols'. But in most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 09:51 PM |
| 6 | Q4All: Does Mackensie Bezos (wife of Jeff Bezos) 'deserve' half of 'his' wealth now that they are divorcing? Why or why not?Ding ding ding ding. Like I know this isn't a place that Marxist analysis is going to go down all that well..... But pretending 'well the many billions of dollars are the result of Jeff Bezos's labour and not hers' is kind of not addressing the elephant in the room here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/19 05:00 PM |
| 5 | The feminist talking point that women are hired less than men in the working environment is complete horseshitI have recently been working for a university administrating their teaching course. Secondary (age 11-18) is about 45/65 in favour of women. Primary is about (age 4-11) 70/30 in favour of women. As in its still somewhat female dominated but men are very much there, even in the early years (age 3-7) specialisation. But it seems from your other answers you don't have a relevant degree so you might be discriminated against for being unqualified for teacher training. Meanwhile, go and ask the women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/19 12:07 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: Why are younger guys a turn off?Men like the idea of being deferred to. Women think it's annoying. I wouldn't put it as 'deferred to'. This question is making me think of a girl I worked with recently (work experience program as part of studying, 18-19 years old). She was great. We were working at a University and it struck me constantly how much more she had her shit together than most of the 18-21 year olds I was encountering there. It wasn't like there was some cultural gap preventing us from having quite a few good friendl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/19 12:15 PM |
| 7 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.If you have children you're expected to use any money you have to pay to keep them alive. If the residential parent doesn't buy them food, they sit watching them starve to death, and then they go to prison. The residential/custodial parent is expected to need MORE support financially as they a) will be the one actually buying the day to day stuff and b) a portion of their working/leisure time and energy is going on physically keeping the children alive while the others isn't. There would be no r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: There is no male or female brainI have horrible handwriting, they have a name for it these days, dysgraphia, and my son has it as well. My daughter does not. Its fairly common, but mostly boys. Reading disabilities are mostly male as well. Girls do better learning by sitting and reading while boys do better by doing. There is evidence that there is an under-diagnosis of certain SEN (dyslexia, dyspraxia, ADHD) in girls and over-diagnosis in boys. Which makes sense both in terms of expectation (if you think boys are much more li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: There is no male or female brainI think there is a real desire to show men and women are somehow the same mentally and its just not so. Funny, I would say the opposite. I think Cordelia Fine puts it really well in one of her books: People used to think things like 'if women read too many books her uterus will fall out'. Then they realised that didn't happen. Then they'd be like 'well men's brains are bigger, thats why they're cleverer'. Then they realised that brain size was not correlated to intelligence. Then they were like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 01:48 PM |
| 3 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.But if the baby is born, it is no longer in her body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 01:18 PM |
| 8 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Men don't get those subsidies when they don't have custody. Well yeah..... I mean, it would kind of defeat the point of 'here is some money for food for your children' if your children weren't under your care and you weren't buying them food. "I am a single parent and therefore struggling to make ends meet because I can't work full time due to the exorbitant costs of childcare negating it and I can show that I don't have enough money therefore to continue to feed myself and my children as I am a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 09:56 AM |
| 8 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.But we're not equally accountable. You made babby. As did whatever woman you sexed with. You both made babby. Thats how babbies work. Basically most of us are happy to pay taxes in order to support those who are in hard times/places/situations, caring for children and paying for children but unable to fund this adequately without assistance. But not for you to just.... choose to use your own money for your own shit instead. If I went to the state as a single non parent and said "I have money and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Men do a lot of talking about what they hate about women, but what they really hate is accountability.Don't even try to start this shit. The father has ZERO impact on whether the kid is even born. You're referring to a small minority of cases where 1) The woman becomes pregnant by mistake/against the fathers wishes and 2) The man then strongly wishes for her to have an abortion but the mother doesn't want to and 3) The woman then requests child support (far from all in that circumstance do). Instead of the many many cases where parents choose to have children, or are happy with the 'mistake' or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/19 09:33 AM |
| 1 | Living Well is the Best RevengeAbsolutely. Revenge is bullshit. As is jealousy. Like, they're natural and you shouldn't beat yourself up exactly for feeling them, but they're not good and you should try not to. Wishing ill on another person or enjoying their suffering doesn't make you above them, it makes you below them, because it means you have to quantify your own success and happiness in regards to them. And it's fucking pointless, because it's a sisyphean task - you can feel all smug when they are doing badly, but you're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Why are bloops and feminists so obsessed with the metaphor of the wall?I have literally never seen a red piller describe the wall in terms of revenge. The post I was replying to did this. Explicitly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/18 09:10 AM |
| 2 | Why do y’all ask for women’s opinions/experiences and then not believe us?Its like when I learned about the problems with Freud back in the day. It's unfalsifiable. Like if you act like you want to fuck your mother, its because you want to fuck your mother, if you act like you don't want to fuck your mother, its because you're scared to admit to your repressed feelings about wanting to fuck your mother (yes this is Freud boiled down to absurdity and there is more to it than that, but the unfalsifiable nature still stands). Which, I mean, very few people are actually a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 03:42 PM |
| 11 | Why are bloops and feminists so obsessed with the metaphor of the wall?they chew through those 15 years riding the carousel and rejecting and humillitaing viable men. Watching them age out and their powers vanish is glorious. Then they show up on /r/whereareallthegoodmen. Nothing makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside like hearing a used up, aged out, carousel rider cry "where are all the good men". I always reply in my head "check your 20s friend zone princess, your husband was in there." Yeah.... I think this is people's problem with it. Are women going to have less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/18 03:04 PM |
| 2 | What is your view on a father marrying his daughter's best friend?This. I know a situation where an older family member (not a dad but same age) of one of my friends got with another one of my friends. She was younger than this (though still very much above the age of consent before anything became anything). It was what it was (over now), as long as they were happy etc., there was some elements that were a bit off but nothing truly bad and both parties feel it was fine so there you go. But it put the other friend in a really awkward situation that she really … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/18 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is a sexual selection multiplierThose societies which culturally are the same as the US/Western Europe but women earn as much as men. Pray do tell what utopia you are speaking of? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Feminism is a sexual selection multiplierI'm saying women would select for more wealth irregardless of society's expectations. Yeah we'll just compare that to the control group where.... oh no wait there isn't one. If anything society tries to shame them not to select for Wealth Oh sweet summer child..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Feminism is a sexual selection multiplierIf that is 100% true (which I don't think it is, plenty of men I know have the wherewithal to consider for longer term whether the woman they are with can contribute to the family income), my point still stands - possibly women seeing 'makes good money' as an attraction factor when they don't need him to make good money is because women are taught that getting a 'high quality' man involves a man who earns better than them but men are not taught that getting a 'high quality' woman means a woman t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Feminism is a sexual selection multiplierCounter argument: Any statistic that regards the longevity of relationships in which women are the primary/equal breadwinners is heavily biased by 1) The particular social/cultural groups and expectations therein that those women tend to be in 2) The cultural norms that have not yet caught up to those particular domestic situations. Basically 'Inherently men can't handle being in a relationship where she earns more or women are inherently not attracted to men that earn less than them' vs. 'profe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/18 03:18 PM |
| 0 | Child support and alimony really isn’t the boon that the manosphere thinks it isMy point is that there is more to it than that. Rent - renting anything on the amount the mother is supposed to get paid would be hard, never mind somewhere large enough for a kid. So you're supplementing the rent as well, plus the bills. Plus the mother is spending what one assumes is a large portion of her time caring for the child, if the child lives with her. While the dad is doing presumably whatever it is he wants while not working. So if you tot up that time as time the mother could be wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Child support and alimony really isn’t the boon that the manosphere thinks it isIsn't it likely that his partner is also spending $1700 a month on the child? If you factor in the extra rent (need a bigger place maybe a garden etc.), feeding/clothing/educating/petrol to take around/heating/electricity/entertainment/etc. Maybe they worked out that they were both putting around half their wages into the extra cost that having a child involves and the court mandated that they should keep doing that (especially if she is also putting in the vast majority/all the actual child car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 12:56 PM |
| 2 | Child support and alimony really isn’t the boon that the manosphere thinks it isBut you can lower your quality of life and live like a broke college student, while not supporting your child. I'm trying to get a better job I don't really want so I can afford to have kids. Because otherwise I can't really. And all that extra money would go towards them. If you have kids you need to provide for them - or someone does. Because they can't make their own money. Thats kind of the whole thing. You can't just do what you want and live the lifestyle you want and also be a parent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/18 12:53 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: How do you feel about TRP reducing women down to math problems?All I can say is that if people were as simple as 'the overwhelming majority of the time, when x is done people do y because of thought process z', psychological research would be a lot easier to do. Instead you have a field where the gist is consistently 'well we thought THAT was obviously and evidentially correct.... until we realised we were totally wrong'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:32 PM |
| 2 | What gender differences could be eliminated through socializations?The real answer is 'we can't know'. If we eliminated all social biases, pressures, conscious and unconscious, then maybe we could say 'women being more nurturing here is because of biology'. But we haven't done that, so we can't. If we didn't say stuff like 'Women are naturally nurturing baby lovers', we wouldn't essentially force women to conform to this in order to be accepted socially. But of course if you were a nurturing baby lover who was a woman, you wanted to be like that, you still coul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 04:23 PM |
| 2 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?But others do and you seem to not be willing to concede that or agree to that. I'm not saying no one simply 'attacks men', I'm saying that I don't believe that is what the majority of modern feminism does. If someone takes a comment about the fallout of a power imbalance to be an attack on them, I'm more than happy to explain why it was not intended as an attack on them and why I do not consider it one. But if they're not going to listen to that, I'm not going to ignore what I see in front of me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/18 08:24 AM |
| 7 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?But this is the problem. Like, what the fuck is an 'SJW'? As far as I can see, it's a term to insult people - predominantly on the internet - whose position you believe is nonsensical ranting they're only saying to make themselves sound more progressive. But if the other person doesn't think that what they're saying is nonsensical ranting, and reflects something that should be spoken about rather than just snowflake crybaby whinging for no reason, then how are you supposed to talk about it? It's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 08:41 PM |
| 36 | How come when people talk about "nice guys" they almost always actually mean sociopaths? Doesn't that sort of make the term meaningless?If you act nice because you wan't sex and then become a vitriolic asshole when you get turned down then you are the exact opposite of nice. Yeah.... thats kind of the point. It's sarcasm. But more specifically about the way that some guys can apparently not only think they're being nice when they're totally not being nice, but walk away from that situation with the belief that somehow their problem is that they're too nice. I've definitely met a few over the years, where a significant portion of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 08:22 PM |
| 11 | How can we narrow the intragender communication gap?Feminism has shifted its female empowerment attitudes to attacking men (at least in my observation). Honestly - I know a couple of 'anti-feminists' in real life. Apart from that, they're decent enough people I can have a conversation with and I wouldn't wish any ill on them. But in my experience, they don't want to listen to my explanation of why I don't consider the above statement to be true. They want me to concede to the above statement 'so we can move on from there'. Which I'm not going to,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/18 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Feminists don't seem like to like this woman's dating adviceApparent advice: younger people are generally considered more attractive. News at 10. Real life: far more complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/18 08:40 PM |
| 2 | How would BP respond to these images of CDC divorce data?This fact is a good example of why "correlation does not equal causation" is overwhelming a ham-fisted rhetorical tactic. The cause of this correlation is obvious to you, but politically uncomfortable correlations can you waved away with muh "correlation does not equal causation". Regardless, if the concern is risk-avoidance, the causation does not matter. You seem not to get it. The point is that any factor that is correlated with another factor, is generally also correlated with 100 other fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/18 07:47 PM |
| 7 | Do women really wear revealing clothes to ''feel good about themselves''?As women from UK who went to university and, while I was never really the classic club girl, has been to and enjoyed my share of club nights over the years: 1) Dressing 'up' is part of the fun and the event. Picking out a nice outfit, that you think makes you look pretty and sexy, doing your make-up, doing your hair - its in a way as much of the experience of fun as the actual club part. Its ritual, creative (what looks best? shall I do my eyeliner like this?) and often done socially with your g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/18 10:40 PM |
| 0 | Why do we automatically assume lying or truth in cases of sexual assualt?I suppose it's a question of what you're ever 100% sure of. If your friend said his wallet was stolen, would you be 100% sure he didn't throw it in the river because he was pissed off and wanted attention or wanted immediately rid of some receipts he didn't want people to know about? No, because you're never 100% sure of anything other people do or say. I think its also important to keep in mind the reaction we have when hearing about horrible shit happening to people. If someone tells us they w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do we automatically assume lying or truth in cases of sexual assualt?That’s a basic logical concept: the burden of proof is on the one making the claim. To be believed in a debate situation, not to be believed socially as the victim of a crime. For honest example - the other day my coworker had her car broken into. She was really upset because she needs her car for stuff and she doesn't have much money. I commiserated with her, tried to give her advise as of what to do, offered her some practical and emotional support. I didn't turn around and say 'But ACTUALLY y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Why do we automatically assume lying or truth in cases of sexual assualt?"Believe the victim" might not mean what you think it means. It means if your friend/relative/coworker etc. comes to you and says "I was raped the other night", you react with listening and maybe an 'Oh fuck!' and a 'What can I do?' instead of "But are you SURE that you didn't make it look like you wanted to? You probably made it look like you wanted to?". You're just taking them at their word in that situation instead of second guessing them - of course there is a possibility they're not tellin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 09:59 PM |
| 3 | Men dropping out of societyCapitalism sucks sometimes innit. More optimistically, some said that men are more likely to help their spouses with raising children and cleaning the house | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 08:39 PM |
| 5 | Men dropping out of society1) Are they? Or is it just that the prevalence of the online world makes it easier to hear the ranting of what would previously have just been people sat in a room stewing. 2) Its pretty easy to feel like the world has fallen apart (on all sides of the political spectrum, to varying degrees of truth) for everyone at the moment. Any 'drop out' (so 90s!) resignment is as likely to be about that as anything. 3) is it fair to demand that men adhere to old systems of masculinity (that almost everyone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 07:18 PM |
| 1 | The “Woke” Men Who Still Want HousewivesBut women aren't part of a problem when they want men to be breadwinners? If they do so with the expectation 'that is a man's role' - then yes. I do think it's slightly different because the qualities of these roles (man in the outside world, financial, leader with woman away from social influence, no direct income, supporter) creates a power dynamic where women have less of it. But still, if you say something like 'men have to be the ones who provide or they're not real men' you're perpetuating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/18 08:21 AM |
| 4 | The “Woke” Men Who Still Want HousewivesI would caution that our ideals on sexuality are solely culturally conditioned or constructed. I never said that. You just lose credibility when you claim that humans are the only monogamous species where mate guarding is natural. 1) Again, never said that or anything like that. 2) We're not talking about 'mate guarding' or monogamy. We're talking about the notions of 'sluts'. You can argue that the emergence of notions of sexual purity could have some tie to drives to ensure paternity, but to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 08:24 PM |
| 3 | The “Woke” Men Who Still Want HousewivesIs there an ethical way to prefer something oppressive? Long answer: it really depends on why you prefer it, how you go about it, how you set it up, how you discuss the terms of it, etc. Short answer: Not really. People have to see that there is a difference between choosing to have a certain home/family set up (in this case the man working while the woman takes care of home/children/etc.) because it works for you - and at the end of the day this world isn't just an era in a history book we actu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much about male dating preferences?The thing is, this mentality absolutely doesn't exclude me, but I still hate it. Some men really seem to refuse to believe or struggle to understand that. I don't take exception to this idea because it means they think my vagina is bad and impure. I don't care what they think about my vagina. I take exception to it because it is a bullshit notion based on a conscious or unconscious acceptance of the idea that men are somehow in ownership of women's sexuality and that female experience and enjoym… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 06:09 PM |
| 6 | Q4M: What does "Submissive" mean to you?Usually, there's no verbal agreement about this (e.g., "We're going to have a dominant-submissive relationship dynamic and agree that I listen to you.") It's just naturally what happens due to the power dynamic in the relationship. If the guy is a quality guy who has lots of options with women and demonstrates a lot of good qualities, his girlfriend will tend to admire, respect, and appreciate everything he is and everything he does. She'll find herself naturally trusting him. Plus, she isn't go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/18 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Radical feminism and traditionalism: a snake biting its own tail.In general the people who describe themselves as 'childfree' do not 'want that' though, thats the point. Some people don't want to have kids because they want to focus on their career, or competitive ice skating, or collecting 50s movie memorabilia, or political activism, or whatever else they want to do with their time on this planet. Like they could do still do those things and have kids, but they couldn't as much because having kids is a big time taking thing, so they'd prefer not to. Or some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Radical feminism and traditionalism: a snake biting its own tail.What do you mean by the 'childfree movement', though? If you mean 'recognising that it's a problem that people - especially women - are somehow seen as less complete/selfish/unworthy because they haven't reproduced, or if you choose to focus on whatever in your life instead of having a nuclear family that isn't a wrong or misguided decision' then.... well yeah, most feminists are for that. Because they're against constricting gender roles and lifestyle expectations. If you mean 'believing that p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:29 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: Why do nice guys consistently lose out to men like this?The link you posted - actually reminds me of someone I knew, to the point that I zoomed in to check it wasn't her. I knew this woman because my job involved supporting her eldest daughter (who was lovely). Dad was in prison. I don't want to go too far into this guy because identification, but let's just say he had a rap sheet as long as your arm of hellish, hellish shit - the worst of which was responsible for his current incarceration. Including horrific abuse and injury on his partner over mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/18 05:12 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] We should stop over-politicizing the "bodyshaming" debate.I agree with most of your post and think you've hit the nail on the head. When people say shit like "I can't stand being around fat people, its gross", to me it makes them sound like a sheltered child. Yeah, some people are fat. Some people are very old with the physical attributes of that, some people have disabilities, some people are in whatever way 'disfigured' by genetic factors or accident/illness/etc. Yeah we are animals who are in some ways inclined to feel revulsion or disgust when we s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/18 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Promiscuous women love to shame men for not wanting them. Instead, they should accept that they are undesirable.Only to slutty women. I am a woman who is most definitely not slutty, and I find them undesirable and whiney. Because its irrational (she has somehow been 'spoiled' by past sexual experiences, with no logical or evidence based reason for believing that other than that they have happily swallowed some puritanical Judaeo-Christian sexist bullshit and refuse to let join the rest of the world in letting go of it) and pathetic (because let the fuck go). I find things irrational and pathetic not becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/18 08:16 AM |
| 8 | What dating preferences do you consider 'shallow' or just plain dumb?Your ex sounds genuinely insane. Like, he wanted a puppet to just act out his fantasies of what he imagined the woman he'd be with to be. Rather than a relationship with an actual human person. Thats never going to end well. Like not 'he needs to find someone his type'. As in 'that is fucked up and no one is going to un-fuck that up'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 09:50 PM |
| 5 | CMV: High casualty jobs being primarily occupied by men is not evidence that men have it unfairNo one really knows why boys tend to get lower grades. People point at research suggesting teachers favour girls, but there is an equal amount of research suggesting teachers favour boys (especially when it comes to maths and science). Gender expectations are deep seated and complex. I've worked in education, and I know in particular my supervisor (we together took care of wider behavioural/pastoral type stuff), would often be like "He is just being a lad". Ok, fair enough in the sense that some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/18 04:05 PM |
| 2 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?Neither have I, I'm just taking that from what is in the OP. But it really depends why you aren't fucking. And in this case it could well be down to 'I have a weird thing about how many people my partners have slept with and I've slept with and probably about sex in general', which means that it was all doomed from the get go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 06:00 PM |
| 3 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?Frankly the top comment should be that he should have broken up 6 months earlier due to no sex from a woman who is clearly not a virgin. Why are you assuming that it was down to her that they hadn't had sex? It seems from his reports of their comparative histories, alongside his reaction to her history, that he is the one who has a more complicated relationship with who you should have sex with and when. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 05:29 PM |
| 1 | What are people's thoughts on this Reddit post?It seems like it completely misses the elephant in the room. Because if its 'I broke up with her because she had previous casual sex and ew', that is one thing, and yeah 'slut shaming' (if for whatever reason he can't get over being with someone who has had over a certain amount of past partners, then I'm not saying he should force himself to like what he doesn't like, but thats just his thing to deal with rather than something women 'should' live up to, so I'm taking it in the context of his ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/18 05:26 PM |
| 21 | Q4WOMEN: Fat girls, what was your reaction when you finally realized that looks matter?Truth. There is this weird thing in the whole dialogue about fat acceptance/fat shaming/whatever where people are like "But the problem is that fat people don't realise that being fat is bad/unhealthy/unattractive etc". It always makes me wonder what craft or teleportation device they used to get here from their home planet. Is that genuinely not a thing for men or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/18 10:13 PM |
| 3 | What Fictional Couples have HEALTHY Relationships?I think Elizabeth and Darcy are pretty good..... for a love story set in a fucked up hyper patriarchal repressed class based matching system. While Elizabeth and Darcy are the central sweeping 'overcome things' love story, so obviously they're the most compelling, in a way Jane and Bingley are more 'relationship goals'. Just two nice, positive people who really like each other and would have just settled immediately into having a nice and positive life together, if everyone else hadn't constantl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/18 06:14 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: When is it not "creepy" to check someone out sexually?I'm pretty sure that staring at someone really obviously has always been seen as a part of social interaction (or rather anti-social interaction). Try going up to a strange man in the street and following him around staring at him. Or don't, because he might hit you. There was no feminist conspiracy to designate the ideal amount of time a man is supposed to stare at a woman's cleavage. Staring at a woman's cleavage was 'a thing' with social repercussions before feminism ever existed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/18 05:50 PM |
| 4 | How can woman avoid being played and used?He likes to drink? I live in England--good luck finding anyone, male or female, who's not a social drinker. Ha. I was going to say the exact same thing. "Tends to want dates that involve drinking". I don't think I ever went on a date that didn't involve drinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/18 06:50 PM |
| 2 | Working wife or SAHM?I don't think its worthless or despicable. Also I think the 'never worked at all' thing is.... that doesn't really happen, apart from amongst those with serious inherited money. I mean, I don't really feel like I had a 'choice in the matter' either. Everyone works. My mother worked, my grandmothers worked before they got married (and one after, later on) because that was what was done back in the day. Was my choice to leave school at 18 or after college or whatever and, like.... sit on my ass at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 07:00 PM |
| 2 | Working wife or SAHM?I remember when I was a teenager, and at school (it had selective entry so these are 99% able to go to college and have some sort of career if they wish) loads of the girls used to say that they were going to marry a rich old guy and be a trophy wife and never work. Some jokingly but some in all seriousness. None of them actually did it - some are probably staying at home while their kids are little right now, but not long term and built up some stuff before doing that. Because 'I'll just get th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/18 06:08 PM |
| 49 | Working wife or SAHM?The whole housewife type situation was a weird western cultural blip. Apart from the small number in the higher classes (where the 'men's work' was basically just taking money from people on their inherited land or whatever anyway), women have always worked, both inside and outside the home. Which makes sense - yes there is work to be done in the home (childcare, the types of food preparation and cleaning that are now far far easier), but the productions of one member of a family working while t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/18 03:41 PM |
| 3 | Masculinity, protection, and femininityI disagree. Reason for that - I'm 5'10, totally cool with dating shorter guys (have dated shorter guys, ended up with someone only about an inch taller than me). And the whole thing that is quoted in the OP doesn't chime with me at all, specifically: Something just feels weird in thinking about looking ‘down’ into my man’s eyes. Yes, if you're 5'3, it probably would be quite odd to look down into a man's eyes. Or in fact anyone's but a child in any significant way. But if you're not 5'3.... you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Female privileageWomen also tend to not give men credit for everything that they do for them. Did your basement flood last summer? If not, it's probably because he cleaned the gutters regularly. Is you deck rotting? If not, it's probably because he got out there and treated it with harsh chemicals to keep it looking nice. Is you yard cut? Do your lights work? Does your refrigerator run? Do you ceilings leak? Does your car have fresh oil in it? I could go on and on. Wut? I do all these types of things (I'm better… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 05:33 PM |
| 8 | Female privileageI mean, I've posted about this before, and I can only skim this right now because I have to go to work. But generally these kind of posts belay a total lack of awareness of what the actual life of most women is like, and this seems no different. It is a life in which you have to get permission in order to enjoy yourself, to relax, or take a break. Only after the needs and wants of your wife / girlfriend and children are met, are you able to do anything for yourself. This is the one that jumped o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 07:48 AM |
| 1 | CMV: As a man, there is no real way to determine your attractiveness other than casual sex.Why do you have to determine your attractiveness, though? Like, isn't the point of being attractive to have sex and relationships anyway? If you've got those things what does it matter? Seems the wrong way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/18 05:50 PM |
| 28 | We should listen to opposite sex about what is attractive and not projections from our own genders.Well...... yes. The thing with both make-up and body building though - they can both be tools for attracting the opposite sex and a hobby in their own right. With body building, that majority of women don't find super ripped guys the be all and end all, and a lot of us (though not all) are actually put off by guys who are TOO bulky. Working out to a level will make you more attractive to women - because generally people who look young/fit/healthy are more attractive than people who don't look yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/18 03:29 PM |
| 2 | I feel like I’ve failed at live because at 27, I’m unmarried and childless.Do you actually want marriage and kids? As in, if you imagine waking up tomorrow with a partner and children (with all the loveliness but also stress/restriction/gnawing mundanity that brings), or you imagine waking up as you are - do you really want the marriage and kids right now or are you kinda cool with it for a while? Because you're all 'other people have done this' and 'my mother wants this' and 'I'm not doing enough with my life', but you don't seem to have any positive drives towards th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/18 07:05 PM |
| 13 | CONVINCE ME TO BECOME A BALLET DANCERDon't do it. The ballet companies and audience will never appreciate you. Go and ballet in a hut next to a wood with a Labrador. But make sure you have an internet connection so you can give regular updates on how all ballet companies and fans are pieces of shit. You need to spend 10% of your day ballet-ing with the labrador AT MOST and then at least 90% focussing obsessively on how ballet audiences are all idiots who SAY they want more dancers and if they were seeing you dancing in the woods wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/18 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Women owe everything to menBasically every white person I know is part Irish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Women owe everything to menYou said the industrial revolution in the north of England. The industrial revolution in the north of England was heavily tied to, and possibly may not have happened without, slavery and the slave trade. The fact the actual slaves weren’t on British soil isn’t all that important. I’m not saying that the industrial revolution was ‘down to the slaves’, just things were how they were. That’s the way history tends to go. Should add that era of history in Manchester was also one of the main birthplac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 12:54 PM |
| 9 | Women owe everything to menHey you know the explosion of the industrial revolution? In Manchester? With the cotton mills? Who do you think picked that cotton? You know Liverpool, the great port of the industrial revolution in the north of england? You got any idea what they were trading? There is a reason that they made a slavery museum by the docks. And renamed a shitload of the roads (apart from Penny Lane, for obvious reasons). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/18 07:25 AM |
| 4 | So is not being Harsh or critical of women sexist? I feel like not treating them like a man in the aspect is bad as well.Is the nature of men to go easy on women and be nicer and coddle them sexist?What I meant is that if my office was gender flipped I can see some people (not everyone, don't get me wrong for a lot of people it would just be 'Yeah, Carol/Steve gonna Carol/Steve'), especially some of the people on here, would use this as 'evidence' that women are lazy or somehow feel they're entitled to getting paid for just showing up. But you never get 'this is evidence of how men are lazy' because men are presidents, 'we built the bridges and the art and shit' etc. It would never get gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/18 05:48 PM |
| 6 | So is not being Harsh or critical of women sexist? I feel like not treating them like a man in the aspect is bad as well.Is the nature of men to go easy on women and be nicer and coddle them sexist?Set up a meritocracy at work with published KPIs tied to names. Quickly watch women claim such arrangements unfair or just outright quit. I see this kind of shit all the time, and its kind of like the 'girls are bad at maths' thing. Office I'm in at the moment is three women (including me) and one man. He works at at most half the speed of the rest of us, and spends a lot of his time talking (either to us or visiting other departments and talking to them). I have never once thought 'Well obvious… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/18 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Questions for all: Height and age differences.1) I'm about 5'10, he is about 5'11. No difference to me, I've dated shorter and taller than myself, height isn't something that factors into sexual attraction for me. Don't think it did for him either - he hasn't exclusively been into tall girls historically or whatever. 2) I'm 32, he is 33 (25 and 26 when we met). I'm generally attracted to guys around my age, as we tend to have more in common, and I would find it strange to date someone much younger or older than me (to the point that I'm gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/18 04:24 PM |
| 8 | Being friendzoned and fuckzoned are both forms of unrequited loveIsn't that what you're paying for with prostitutes and cam-girls though? You're paying them to pretend they like you, and/or fuck. When a cam-girl is all 'Yeah baby, I'd love to fuck you, keep talking to me baby' (I assume I don't use cam girls?) isn't that just.... the point? Like obviously they'll try and persuade you to come back for more, but that is also kind of part and parcel with the whole paying for sex thing. As in its as much 'deceiving me to lead me on' as Bryan Cranston pretending t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/18 04:59 PM |
| 7 | Being friendzoned and fuckzoned are both forms of unrequited love-friendzone: being in love with someone who only wants to be friends. This person may drop breadcrumbs like “you’re so awesome”, “not really in a place to date but maybe soon!” but never ever date you. This person is a douchebag. People who knowingly (or 'sort of subconscious but let be honest here you knew' knowingly) lead someone on - either as a friend they dangle the idea of dating in front of or a sex-friend they dangle the idea of a relationship in front of - is indeed kind of a douchebag.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/18 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Is the bias towards mothers over father justified?I don't know how it is in the US, but generally in the UK if the father: 1) Isn't a total shit-bag in a way that will impact/endanger the kids 2) Wants residence with the kids 3) Has spent real time with them He will generally be given at least partial residence. (Obviously individual cases are individual cases - but overall. This is based on both general social experience but also having worked with children and families.) Often parents will come to an understanding with the mother (or father) … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/18 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Reality of N count; Most women lie. Men don't ask, boys do.I mean, if you tell you're girlfriend that you don't value her as much as your exes, and she doesn't want to have sex with you anymore and probably breaks up with you.... then yeah that is kind of his fault. The reason I found the original post so ridiculous is because I think if someone said that to me, I'd just assume they were intentionally breaking up with me. Like "Well if you don't like me that much, I assume you're saying we shouldn't go out anymore?". If I became aware that they didn't r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/18 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Reality of N count; Most women lie. Men don't ask, boys do.I mean, my 'n count' is embarrassingly low, and my partner treats me as well as and probably better than anyone he has ever been with (based on the evidence that I have either way). I don't identify with this situation personally in any way. I just thought it was ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Are people who get friendzoned acting entitled or are they just acting with low confidence?No, I meant as if the person ONLY wants to know them in terms of a romantic/sexual relationship and doesn't also value their friendship. This is a different situation to say a person who is friends, developes romantic feelings, and when they are not reciprocated feels too upset and that it is not in the interests of their own emotional wellbeing to remain friends. (What you may be referring to.) That is completely understandable, and isn't about not valuing their friendship, just needing the dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/18 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Reality of N count; Most women lie. Men don't ask, boys do.Well yes, if a woman actually said that to you, that would be bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/18 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone here taken Valentine's Day seriously for a romantic encounter or been approached by someone who didNot really. My partner and I get each other cards, and sometimes we'll get a nice dinner in to have together. I think its an individual thing. Some people appreciate the excuse to have a 'themed date' and special night, some people find that doesn't feel 'genuine' and aren't into it. Sometimes one person really likes it so the other gets involved to make them happy. Different strokes for different folks. Mainly replying because my favourite valentines day special thing isn't even a romantic one:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/18 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Are people who get friendzoned acting entitled or are they just acting with low confidence?is acting entitled and that they are leading the other person on by pretending to be their friend I think the 'entitlement' point here is when those who have the romantic interest in their friend believe they are entitled to a romantic relationship with them. And the 'leading them on' is if they are pretending to be their friend in the sense that they have no interest in being this person's friend, only with being romantically involved with them eventually. I think that the friendship is genuine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/18 08:01 AM |
| 3 | Reality of N count; Most women lie. Men don't ask, boys do.This is the most ridiculous thing I have read in a while. "Yeah I did all this stuff for my ex because I gave a shit about her. I don't give a shit about you to nearly the same extent. Wait that makes you feel less secure in our relationship, however could that be!?!?!" I for one am deeply surprised your experiences gave you this surprising and revelational observation of human behaviour. the same way a woman with a high n-count doesn't have any damns to give and puts in little effort in her sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/18 11:04 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men want both equality and inequality in a relationship, when and how it benefits them.Company, sex, a home I am happy to come back after a day of work, consistency I mean, aren't you supplying that for her as well? Isn't that the point of a relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/18 10:51 PM |
| 21 | What events pushed you toward the blue pill (or no pill) as an adult?I had some conversations with friends where I was overly concerned with demonstrating my own status. In a subtle way. And it didn’t work very well. I came to feel that concern with status had been a pattern for me since finding RP. I had a fear that I lost one of the friends because of this. Oh god, I know a friend who is just like this. Every conversation with him is all about..... performing the 'high status adult'. And he'll sometimes be like its tongue in cheek or sarcastic, but its not, if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/18 02:00 PM |
| 14 | What events pushed you toward the blue pill (or no pill) as an adult?A lot of the TRP guys here talk about how they had a Blue view pushed on them all through their childhood/teen years, but I think they underestimate how many women have a "redder" worldview pushed on them as kids/teens. I was a shy, awkward girl who got >all the "guys will only want you if you're hot in a very specific way but also not slutty, they don't care about your personality, you need to defer to a dominant manly man to Win at Woman." Truth. I'm in my early 30s, and a couple of my single … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/18 01:54 PM |
| 6 | What do you do that pleases the opposite sex?Blowjobs. Seriously though: Strangers/colleagues/acquaintances - The same stuff I do with women. I don't go around looking to 'please' these people, but I want people to be happy and feel good, so I try to be polite, listen to people, be empathetic, help people out when I can, etc. Friends - Same I do with my female friends. Try and be a good friend. Supportive, fun, etc. Partner - All sorts. It makes me happy to make him happy. Cooking meals, getting things in we need, making our home nice (fix… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/18 11:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Will fat acceptance ever cease?Bhahahahha....nice try blaming it on everyone else\everthing else EXCEPT the people eating more than they are burning off. Mate I think the point is less 'its not about intaking more energy than they're burning off' and more 'the reason people intake more energy than they burn off is complicated'. The reasons people do what they do, how thinking and environment and behaviour interact, is really fucking complicated. Its always funny to me when people are like "Its simple...." because that seems l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/18 10:45 PM |
| 3 | More Blue Pill Advice?"Holy shit Molly, his interests in Renaissance history is making me soo horny!" Er, yeah. Sort of. I've seen people be eloquent/intelligent/caring/creative/etc. and become attracted to them through that, when I wasn't previously. Average to ugly guy walks through audience, no one cares. That guy gets up on the stage, is all expressive and talented and romantic, suddenly 10% of the audience think he is the hottest thing ever. Everyone knows that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/18 04:21 PM |
| 6 | Q4A: RP and wealth/social class?Truth. I always seem to get 'BUT WOMEN CHANGING OLD PERSON DIAPERS AND CLEANING GREASE TRAPS AND MOPPING FLOORS FOR NEXT TO NOTHING GET KILLED LESS, MEN ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE MORE'. Well..... yes. They also get paid less, partially for that reason. Getting paid next to nothing for physically arduous and deeply unpleasant work with no respect isn't OK, getting harmed or killed at work isn't OK. Are we really blaming working class women, or women in general, for the lack of cooperate consideration … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/18 10:57 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: RP and wealth/social class?Teaching is predominantly a middle class profession, though a more accessible one than many. Teaching requires a college degree, often a post-graduate degree, in most cases and most countries. It really isn't equitable to for example bricklaying or mining - it is out of the reach of most working class women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/18 08:45 PM |
| 6 | Q4A: RP and wealth/social class?There was a comment the other day I found kind of illuminating in that regard, from a woman on here from a working-class area who worked as a secretary for a not-great hourly wage with no health insurance. I've said this on here before but - there is a weird dichotomy which goes on here where 'normal' man jobs are described as working class trades (labouring, construction, joinery, etc.) but 'normal' woman jobs are cushy middle management or the more fancy higher up versions of secretarial admin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/18 08:41 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Women Are Not Most Attracted To Older Men Like The Manosphere ClaimsAgree. Early 20s me was not attracted to older guys, in terms of actually wanting to date/have sex with them. Like there were some celebrities in their 30s and 40s who I thought were hot, but that was more 'Oooooo romantic lead with symmetry' than actively wanting them. Or, like, I remember thinking a tutor was hot and us giggling about it. But that was again more 'Its fun to giggle about how the tutor has geek chic going on and I could totally imagine myself being with someone like that in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/18 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: You have sixty seconds to speak to your sixteen year old past self. What do you tell him/her and why?1) Stop waking up every morning resolving to stoically 'try harder'. You're different and there is nothing wrong with that, the only way you're going to get anywhere is by making that your strength. Sometimes having self respect is standing up for who you are, telling people and expecting them to listen, rather than trying to make yourself 'better'. Because what you're doing now is just teaching yourself to feel like a miserable failure for the rest of your life. 2) Boys are just like girls with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/18 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: You have sixty seconds to speak to your sixteen year old past self. What do you tell him/her and why?Learn engineering, medicine or law in college, money precedes happiness. Strongly disagree with the last part (money is in no way better than happiness, money doesn't bring happiness - its just harder to have happiness if you're constantly having to think about money, and having money can help with allowing you to think about money less). However my one might be along these lines, just because I stabbed in the dark at the idea of 'a career' without any real direction, so I might as well have don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/18 09:37 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: If you were dating an attractive, charming man/woman, how would you know they are generally interested in you?I think this as well. Effortlessly charming people put me kind of on edge. I mean if you were actually dating such a person, as others are saying, there are indicators you can't generalise. Time spent in general, time spent with their friends/family, etc. But yeah I dated a few people where they seemed super interested and engaged when they were talking to me, but immediately I could tell that was just how they presented themselves and not a particular interest in me. Which, I suppose, props to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/18 09:21 PM |
| 10 | Q4BP: why should I be BP?Even if they conclude AWALT, and we say NAWALT, that doesn't mean it wasn't true that in their experience AWALT. So basically you're saying that they happen to have met only women that are like the red pill describes, even though it is true that not all women are like that, it is therefore in their experience/feelings true? I mean..... I suppose..... but you've got to remember that perceptual bias is a thing. A big, big thing. We all do it, but the red pill in it's nature is about buckling down … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/18 08:03 AM |
| 1 | What is the single, strongest evidence you have to discredit the other pill(s)?Read below | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?I meant, like, objective and rational evidence. Not your feelings. I considered it. Then I realised it wasn't true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?The research I posted was more recent. I was trying to show how many have been critical of the hypothesis for a long time, and continue to be. I am familiar with Simon Baron-Cohen's work. Some of it is interesting, but you should be aware that plenty of criticisms have been levied at his work. Essentially it comes down to the impossibility of a 'control group' - you can't control for socialisation. For example the research (if its the same that I'm aware of) about work related preferences - simp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 10:53 AM |
| 7 | What is the single, strongest evidence you have to discredit the other pill(s)?'Blue pill' - Real life experience. Science. Consistently found applicability of other theoretical models of social understanding (eg. feminist theory). 'Red pill' - Complete lack of the above. Plus the way that it seems to be so effective and tantalising as a get out method of the above. A way to remove the dissonance and emotional impact that comes from trying to navigate complex social realities, by applying a unfalsifiable structure where you get to always be right and never touched by anyth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 09:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?Citation needed Its funny because higher up, someone was arguing that men rationalise their emotions more. When you hear something you want to be true, immediately try to argue against it internally. Have you tried this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?No problem. There is loads more I can't get to right now. Its actually something (the amount of criticism and research suggesting other hypothesis/explanations) I wasn't aware of until quite recently, which is interesting considering how widely known the male variability hypothesis itself is. As with most things in psychology (especially sex difference research) - bit of a minefield. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?A lot of it is behind a paywall, unfortunately, but the work of Stephanie Shields. Evidence of cross cultural differences And right back in the 1910/1920s, Leta Hollingworth proposed that the Male Variability Hypothesis could be predominantly/totally explained by differences in the expectations of men and women, and continued to find evidence of this in work with both children with learning disabilities and 'gifted' children. Just to be clear I'm not totally throwing out the possibility of great… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 06:29 PM |
| 6 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?Some of the comments on this are, not gonna to point fingers or sugar coat it here, unintentionally hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?I don't know, but I know that the poster I was replying to was talking about 'intellectual equals' in a wider sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 05:58 PM |
| 6 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?No, what I meant is that some more recent research and theory has put in doubt that the variance found previously is an inherent sex difference. Will try and find later if you like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 09:17 AM |
| 8 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?Schopenhauer believed that women were more adept mentally in what is near at hand, this is born out in women's aptitude for lying and spinning up bullshit on the fly Some interesting causality going on here. But I mean, a 19th century philosopher who explicitly hated women is absolutely a rational place to go for your insight into psychological sex differences in 2018. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 09:16 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?I've heard some more recent criticism of the whole 'increased standard distribution' thing, but either way - average is consistently found to be the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 09:07 AM |
| 15 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?Of course. Because everyone knows that women's feelings are feeeeelings while men's feelings reflect a cold rational truth. So it men feel they're being rational, they must be being rational. And that isn't a tautology because fMRI hormonal corpus callosum evolution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 09:05 AM |
| 8 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?If we're talking grand-scale averages, then no. What about women having the same average IQ as men, then? Are you saying that IQ tests don't measure intellectual capacity? Because while I agree there are valid criticisms, that is explicitly what they're designed for, and they've spent a long time trying to make them do that. There is no 'emotional intuition' section. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How can a woman be more "rational"?Don't forget using big science words out of context. Because everyone knows big science words automatically make you more right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/18 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you find courageous and heroic women to be attractive, all other things being equal?Am secretly a vampire slayer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/18 10:03 AM |
| 0 | Q4All: Do you find courageous and heroic women to be attractive, all other things being equal?Specific groups of men experience more workplace deaths. For example, logging, certain types of labouring, etc. There are plenty, PLENTY of men where the worst they'll get at work is a paper cut. I'm not saying it isn't important to make massive strides in order to make sure all jobs, those done by men, are safe as possible. But you're not going into to logging because you want to save people by cutting down trees, you're going into it because it pays better than flipping burgers a McDonalds. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Do you find courageous and heroic women to be attractive, all other things being equal?Obviously it shouldn't matter. In the commenter's story, it didn't matter, she did it anyway. But you're talking like this nurse would be consciously making the decision whether to 'be attractive' or not. If she has been her whole life influenced by the idea that her succeeding at being a woman is not being that, she might be reticent to be that - have to fight decades of persuasion in order to do it. The question isn't 'should be able to throw out decades of social influence about how she shoul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you find courageous and heroic women to be attractive, all other things being equal?You’re just as much a slave to it as any woman. Why would you think otherwise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you find courageous and heroic women to be attractive, all other things being equal?Aw. You think you aren’t influenced by social conditioning. That’s cute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you find courageous and heroic women to be attractive, all other things being equal?But it’s not the carrying the person that people are saying isn’t feminine. It’s the shouting that the person I originally replied to was saying wasn’t feminine. What if I carried a 250 pound guy daintily? What has that got to do with risking your life being a hero? And yet again, it’s not about telling people what to be attracted to. It’s about the acknowledgement that social conditioning influences what we think of ‘masculine’ or ‘feminine’ and attraction. You might like to think that your fee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 04:47 PM |
| 7 | Q4All: Do you find courageous and heroic women to be attractive, all other things being equal?This is actually an interesting OP (rarely say that about this subreddit....) because this is a 'gender norm' which is damaging in ways I'd genuinely never really considered before. If 'doing what it takes to save the person/day' is apparently 'unfeminine', then women never get to be the hero in their own narrative. Because the same way men who join the army/police or become doctors are driven by wanting to be the hero, women are driven by that as well (also when they become nurses, social worke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 01:57 PM |
| 7 | Q4All: Do you find courageous and heroic women to be attractive, all other things being equal?This. And I would totally read that. When I watch Captain America or something, I'm not mainly thinking 'Man, he is hot, I'd like to sleep with him', (though he is, and I would). I'm mainly thinking 'It would be so cool if I had super-powers like that and could be a hero saving the world'. I watched a lot of X-Men as a kid and I always really wanted superpowers to use as a hero. I remember after I read Matilda as a little kid, spending ages trying to move a pencil with my mind, thinking that if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/18 01:12 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] People should marry at 30-34 to someone exactly their age for the least risk of divorceBut you said 'should'. Ok, maybe you meant that in a more 'would be better statistically' sense. But 'should' implies 'would be best if you tried to'. There are many, many confounding variables which may impact upon this correlation and are less a 'should' and more a 'happen to'. For example it could be that people who get married between 30 and 34 are more likely to have certain level of education/employment track, be of a certain disposition, have certain value systems, etc - or some mixture o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/18 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...But how would you know? Maybe my partner was disparaging my failure to live up to my role as his partner. Maybe the woman was disparaging her partner's failure to live up to the role of her partner in a similar fashion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...I don't know, what if my partner is a SAHD and he says that exact thing to me (because man-up has entered colloquial neutrality). After someone has started with us and I didn't defend him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 06:07 PM |
| 5 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...What if she is judging the man for being cowardly for being cowardly for the sake of being cowardly? How are we ever to know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...Is she allowed to judge a woman as cowardly for not coming to her defence and still be able to expect, engage and reward male gender roles? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...Because the very widest definition of feminism is the advocacy for women based on the idea that men and women are equal. I suppose I am assuming you mean this woman doesn't think women should vote because they're inferior/not able to do so as well as men. It could be that a woman doesn't think women should have the right to vote because they're an anarchist who doesn't believe in government. In which case they can be a feminist, sure, why the hell not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...No Edit: Short answer - no. Long answer - what the actual hell? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...Fair enough, but my point still stands that women often judge the moral character of other women when you said it was traditionally a male thing. It can be considered a 'male trait' and still be something that women do. Because all male traits are also things that women do. You're entirely conflating 'normally associated traits' and 'role expectations'. Like, a woman consciously trying to have feminine traits is going to try to be compassionate and understanding, because those are 'feminine trai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 04:56 PM |
| 3 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...I disagree. People absolutely treat others more favorably if they conform to traditional standards of beauty. To say otherwise in demonstrably false. If you want to relevant literature and studies on this phenomenon, I am happy to deliver. What you're talking about is the human (of both genders) inclination to like attractive (attractiveness is at least somewhat culturally conditioned) people (of both genders) more, because they're all nice to look at and we like looking at them. Thats entirely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 04:32 PM |
| 4 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...I don't think you're talking about a thing that really happens to any real extent. Kind people tend to be kind to other people and unkind people tend to be unkind to people they aren't already close to. I don't think you'd find many women that go around consciously going 'well I'll be kind to that person because they're thin but not as kind to that person because they're not'. Do you mean 'wants most to be friends with people they consider conventionally attractive in a feminine sense?'. In that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 04:21 PM |
| 10 | Can a woman be congruent with feminism and...rewards other women with her kindness for being thin wtf is this? Being kinder to thin people than people who aren't thin? I'm pretty sure this is less 'engaging with female gender roles' and more 'being a shallow snob'. Did you get the impression 'fatpeoplehate' was primarily female subscribers or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/18 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: What is your takeaway of this askwomen thread about Leonardo DiCaprio dating younger women?Don't really care about DiCaprio (they're consenting, he is consenting, if it all parties happy then I don't see a problem, even if I can't think of anything worse than hanging around with 18/19 year olds). The thing with him (and Clooney before he got married) is that they reflect a double standard. Them being attractive people dating a string of other attractive people is seen as them being stud bachelors living the high life. But when female celebrities do the same (Jennifer Aniston is the ob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/18 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Advice pleaseSocial anxiety when meeting new people, navigating getting to know someone and receiving compliments in particular, is really common. So know that you're not 'weird' or alone. Luckily, due to this there are services and resources around for both anxiety and confidence building. Paying a professional (counsellor or therapist) is great but obviously can be expensive. Alternatively there are a load of self help books - some of them look pretty cheesy at first but can also have a lot of good hints a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/18 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Are women naturally inclined to believe the apex fallacy?Unless they aren’t given it because the big boss prefers his favourite lackies to be in his image so will promote men who do the same or less work over the woman. In that case..... not equals. Like, on a general level I admit business managers are not top of my heartbreak list when it comes to injustices. Hence my skepticism when the ‘lean in’ types make it all about them. HOWEVER even if you’ve been given a generally good hand in life, at the end of the day unfair is unfair. If your colleague g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/18 01:39 PM |
| 1 | How important is it for a guy to relate to you and your interests? Do you like when he's "one of the girls"?I should add as well, I think most well balanced people are 'social chameleons'. As I said, my girlfriends I'm close to, we aren't really the braid hair and squeal about shoes types. But I can also socialise in a group having 'girly girl' conversations, because I wear clothes I at least minimally consider the aesthetic of, and am able to talk about emotions because I have emotions and have learned to, I like kids and know enough about them to participate. (Should make an important point here to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/18 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Are women naturally inclined to believe the apex fallacy?'Male privilege' - It does not mean what you think it means. Look it up. (You can absolutely apply it to working class men.) To answer your question 'Are women inclined to believe this fallacy' - yes in the sense that the whole point of fallacies is humans are inclined to fall for them. But more so than men? Nah. I mean, on this subreddit, I constantly come across men saying - 'Yes there are more male CEOs, but women tend to be working in cushy middle management jobs while working class men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/18 09:04 AM |
| 1 | How important is it for a guy to relate to you and your interests? Do you like when he's "one of the girls"?Going on a limb but I'm guessing more liberal women may tend to dig the gender roles being flipped, while more conservative ones might want a traditional manly man and find Bernie bro effeminate dudes like me a turnoff. I think you're in danger of really over simplifying this. Its like.... you've just lumped a load of stuff into 'effeminate' or 'feminine', and then the comments have gone even further, that are completely unrelated to each other. Being excited by things, enjoying dancing, liberal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/18 08:30 AM |
| 5 | The Perception ProblemReally? In relationships or out? Because in.... yeah, probably. But most or even a small minority of single people having sex multiple times in one week. I have literally never met a single person who gets laid that often. Never met them. I'm sure they probably exist, but they are rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/18 05:04 PM |
| 1 | What happens to socially unadjusted girls during childhood?Teenagers (particularly younger ones) care a lot what people think about them, in comparison to the norm. Either you are not a teenager or you are in the small minority that do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/18 04:56 PM |
| 1 | What happens to socially unadjusted girls during childhood?It depends. Occasionally, yes. In my experience working in co-ed schools, they tend to just..... not really date, as far as I know (last job in particular I ended up knowing a hell of a lot about which 14 year old was going out with which other 14 year old, it was brain numbing). I don't fully know why.... maybe because they're worried it will further impact their 'weird' factor, maybe they don't fancy each other, who knows. Personally I didn't go to a co-ed high school, so the weird girls and w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/18 11:13 AM |
| 37 | What happens to socially unadjusted girls during childhood?Basing this both on my own experiences and working in schools as an adult: Do they struggle to make friends? Yes. Obviously 'socially unadjusted' can mean lots of different things - very quiet/timid/awkward yes, not being able to say the 'right' thing, but also anger/control issues for example. Anything that means you don't fit in and conform to the expected social conventions, basically. But all these things will often get in the way of making friends (as you would expect, really). Do they get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/18 04:33 PM |
| 4 | Looks and height are the only things that matter to a twenty-something girl in the Western world.I know I saw this every time and get told I'm some outlier freak for it, but: I've dated men who are shorter than me (in my 20s). I never had a problem with it. Occasionally they had a problem with it, but I never did. I know a number of couples where the woman is taller than the man, actually, which causes problems the 'Basically all women will only date guys almost a foot taller than them bar very few exceptions' point. Are there women whose sexual preferences are so intrinsically along the li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/18 03:51 PM |
| 0 | Women are often more of a financial burden on their spouses as they earn more.You're right I wouldn't be able to pass English because I can't take listening to people spewing diarrhea from their mouth I always found maths and science to be a lot easier than English. Maybe it was the other way around for you because you're not naturally very good at maths and science? Which isn't an insult, everyone is good at different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/18 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Is It Difficult to Not Be Creepy?Truth. I remember someone telling me they got into a fight when they were taking a walk alone, late at night, someone started getting aggressive with them, so they argued back and got into a fight, and that 'I don't understand what thats like because people aren't allowed to hit women so you can do whatever you like'. I was like, no, the reason I don't get into fights like that is both that I wouldn't be taking a walk alone late at night, and when people get aggressive with me (which happens, so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/18 06:43 AM |
| 3 | Why are so many women pro casual sex/hookup culture but anti-prostitution?I actually agree. As I said, my position on this comes down to 'I don't really know', and I'm of the 'Well if I don't really know, and other people are telling me that this is what they want and they're fine and its fine, best take them at their word or at least not criminalise it'. I did read an article a while ago though which was pretty interesting, by an ex escort who had used to be very pro-legalisation and unionisation, but that she and some others in her position had switched sides to 'pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/18 11:21 AM |
| 8 | Why are so many women pro casual sex/hookup culture but anti-prostitution?Is it feminism with the concern of sex trafficking, is it objectification concerns? Or is it because "only a loser pays for sex"? I think the concern about sex trafficking is that women/children (and sometimes men/boys) are bought and sold into situations where they are forced to have sex for money (primarily going to the trafficker) to survive/not be harmed/can't really say no because they're far from home and have no other options. It isn't akin to slavery, it is slavery. That is a far more pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/18 10:32 AM |
| 2 | Gender is NOT a social constructThere are absolutely properly evidenced differences in behavior. There are no properly evidenced differences in behaviour that cannot also be attributed to social influence. Are you arguing that gender is purely attributed to testosterone levels? Because that goes against our understanding of gender. Both in the sense of the 'if someone shot me with some testosterone does that make me temporarily male?' question along with the whole 'while testosterone is one of the hormones that influences beha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Gender is NOT a social constructThats what I mean. 'Sex' is the word to describe the biological differences between men and women - men have penises, women have wombs, men have xy women have xx, men have more testosterone, etc. (again ignoring intersex and trans for this point). What we mean be 'gender' in this instance is the behavioural and psychological differences on the basis of sex. There are NO properly evidenced differences between the sexes on the latter point that cannot also be attributable to social influence. Ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 10:12 PM |
| 2 | Gender is NOT a social constructDo you agree that testosterone influences behavior? Because if you do, then gender is NOT a social construct. There are reasons to believe that testosterone influences behaviour (though its interesting with gender because for example if all people who are in the 'treated as male' group is the same as the 'higher testosterone' group it raises big issues, but even then), but testosterone differences are not 'gender'. What you seem to be arguing is 'testosterone differences account for the differen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 09:54 PM |
| 3 | Gender is NOT a social constructHormones are biological. 'Gender' is not biological. You are confusing two things. There is no evidence to truly suggest that it is not. I cannot stress that enough. We're in 2018 and there is no real evidence that is not explainable by the social construct model. Being poor is not a biological fact. Being poor is just having less money, which is a social convention. Yet there are many physical and social realities that are related to being poor. Being hungry is biological, and being hungry is d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Gender is NOT a social constructAnd hormones are influenced by environment. Also concluded by countless studies. If you shoot me with a vial of testosterone.... do I become a man? When do I stop being a man? Are all my thoughts in that time going to be man thoughts? If 'gender' is just differences in testosterone level, then that should be the case, no? There is no evidence to suggest that gender is solely created by social conventions There is loads of evidence in which it is suggested that social conventions influence gender… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 08:39 PM |
| 5 | Gender is NOT a social constructYou just are not on the side of scientific consensus. It is what it is. You sent me a tweet by one scientist. Other scientists differ on this matter. He doesn't even say 'the consensus' he specifically gives HIS interpretation of the most current research. The study isn't irrelevant, it is the first and one of the biggest studies into primate behaviour in this area. I mentioned it because it is the most funny. I also touched on the issues with the other research in that area but whatever. My poi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Gender is NOT a social constructThey did not give them cooking pans lmao. I didn't say this study, I said one of the original studies that much of the later primate toy research is based on. I just thought it was funny. So really, there is no basis to call gender a "social construct" when even scientific consensus disagrees with that This is an incorrect statement. So for example, I am a woman. For thousands of years, philosophers/doctors/scientists have been studying the differences between men and women. But if they were giv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 08:07 PM |
| 7 | Gender is NOT a social constructI love the way that we assume there is no impact of socialisation in primates, like "Well obviously if it happens in animals it must be biological". Why? The original 'primates and toy preference' study is pretty funny, actually. Because they classified a cooking pot as a girl-type toy related to nurturing. Like.... I don't know if primates have social constructs, but I'm pretty sure they don't know what a fucking cooking pan is for. The issue with studying 'not socially related' gender differen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 07:26 PM |
| 1 | How not to be a glib narcissistic sociopath with TRP?1) Its gender essentialist to the extreme ('women are this, men are this, this is just the way everyone is') in ways that I think are incredibly limiting ad destructive. 2) Its sexist (even the bits that are more neutralised 'this is just dating strategy' bits, not even counting the frequent 'it all went to shit once we started letting women vote') in the way that it speaks about women. 3) It values the idea of sex as validation in such a way that it encourages people to have shitty relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/18 06:19 PM |
| 1 | How not to be a glib narcissistic sociopath with TRP?I know that my problems are mine and many people reading TRP have their shit together, but I also see this problem commented and discussed from the more insightful and experienced posters on the TRP forums. To be clear I am not redpill and think it is a very bad thing, so I'm probably not going to see it from the same perspective, but I still don't think its uncharitable of me to say 'I believe there are a lot of guys in redpill/MRA/etc. who even don't feel any conflict or deal with internal con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/18 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Have You Been Publicly Harassed Because of Your Gender?Not much recently, thankfully, I think because I don't look like the innocent young girl anymore (I've always heavily suspected this was a big part of it). I've been catcalled.... don't know how often. Was every few weeks or so when I was younger? Its one of those things as well where it depends on your mood - if it catches you at a really bad time it can make you feel incredibly vulnerable and frightened, when other days its annoying but you feel confident just telling them to go away. Its one … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/18 12:05 PM |
| 13 | Dickmatized by a blue pill man.What the hell does 'dickmatized' mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/18 08:50 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Toxic masculinity has no solution1) Rich men getting into fights is far from unheard of. Even if the idea of having to fight someone for your honour is primarily held in working class culture, its far from purely a class thing. Also consider that the idea of having to 'prove you're a man' notion may still be present, but manifest differently and still in destructive ways. Fighting in itself isn't 'about' toxic masculinity. 2) Yeah.... thats kind of the point. How is saying 'They have been conditioned by society to act in a way … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/18 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Reverse-shit testBut you said yourself you ascertain if its 'contrary to her words'. Do you ask her beforehand if she is uninterested in men who show weakness vulnerability? And then assuming she says no (which... thats a big question), you show (faked or not is not really the issue) a specific emotion in a specific circumstance. How she reacts in that moment, in that evening, or whatever, is enough indication to you that she is a cold game player who you should act maliciously towards? There can be so many reas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testIt's more like understanding games, but choosing not play and through the natural flow of my regular habits, not removing opportunities to see if she plays. Nah, mate. You're playing games. Faking an emotion in order to influence/test her relationship with you (or playing close attention to her reaction to situations in order to judge her without being open about that) is playing games. The early gist of what you're describing isn't all that bad as far as 'testing' a potential partner goes (if i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 03:07 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] What personality traits make a man more attractive/sexy/arousing?Funny. Intelligent (specifically fluid creative intelligence... like just being able to list facts or solve equations isn't necessarily hot, but someone who is able to talk about something or problem solve creatively is). Passion/enthusiasm. I find men who are passionate about the things they are into very attractive (bonus points when merged with the intelligent bit). Kindness and being considerate. A guy who helps an old lady across the street/stands up for a waiter/is nice to kids/etc. is goi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/18 05:49 PM |
| 8 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?I don't know, I've seen female teachers who seem to prefer boys as well. I've worked with female teachers who openly admit to preferring boys 'Girls are emotional and bitchy and I get on with men better' etc. As I say I've worked in education (not actually a teacher, its complicated) and I've had both boys and girls tell me I hate them because they're a boy or a girl. There were a couple of teachers at school who even with logical retrospect seriously had it in for me (fucking up their scores wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/18 01:55 PM |
| 8 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?I said I was decently attractive, and could be more so if I put a load of time/effort/money in. I'm not Claudia Schiffer or some shit. Very VERY attractive people have quite out-there lives. Decently attractive people just have normal lives apart from occasionally people will try and sleep with them only to quickly move on when it becomes clear that isn't happening. Really unless you're very pretty, its complete nonsense that every man you come across decides to drop everything in order to worsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/18 01:48 PM |
| 13 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?Buddy, one day you're going to have to recognise that the girl who got better grades than you in college wasn't being showered with automatic praise by the professors because she was symmetrical and had a womb, its because she was brighter than you and worked harder. Its only when you accept that you'll achieve anything. Its funny back when I was at university, we had this lecturer who was a pretty blatant sexist and letch. So we did a study (because we were psychology nerd students and therefor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/18 01:29 PM |
| 10 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?You're both playing "who's the bigger victim", a game that produces only losers and no winners. I suppose that was kind of the opposite of my point. I'm having a hard time at the moment, but I'm not special. My life isn't shit because I'm a white woman, I'm just a white woman whose current life happens to be a stinking pile of shit. I'm not a victim.... I'm just struggling right now. The big difference is that I'm not pretending there is some magical group I could belong to where everything woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/18 01:17 PM |
| 16 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?On here, and I made a post about this before..... I resent being constantly told my life is automatically easy because I'm a woman. Not even easier - literally just automatically a cakewalk in which I can just sit and wait for great shit to be given to me. I resent it because its pretty bullshit to be sat there struggling through life, desperately trying as hard as you can to hold it all together, and then turning around to be lectured about how you never have to do shit. There is the whole 'mov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/18 11:50 AM |
| 2 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?This 'welfare queen' shit is pretty naive, to be honest. You work or you end up with nothing in this life, and your kids end up with nothing, meagre child support or no meagre child support. No one really chooses that shit, and no romantic fantasies of hard working men keeping society afloat is going to change that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 09:32 PM |
| 3 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?I'm capable of living outside of my mother's body though, and have been for quite some time now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 06:55 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?You can call it 'killing another being' or you could call it 'removing a clump of tissue beginning to form another being that is entirely incapable of becoming anything without that other body's support'. Whether or not its because its 'an inconvenience to their life plans' or because they're psychologically incapable of coping with it and would otherwise kill themselves or whatever the situation is, luckily abortion is legal so that isn't important to the discussion. They have no yet done their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 06:23 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?She doesn't necessarily get to make all the decisions concerning the child. The only decision that she automatically gets to make alone is whether or not the pregnancy is carried to term, resulting in the child. Once the child is born, that changes. For example (in most places, not sure about everywhere) a biological mother can only choose to put a child up for full adoption if the biological father is OK with that. And biological fathers can have residency/input/etc. just the same as biological… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 05:32 PM |
| 2 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?People don't get why the whole notion of 'financial abortion' is ridiculous. An abortion is about bodily autonomy. The foetus is inside the mother's body, reliant on it to survive, sharing it. We could go into the many reasons that women have abortions (even when/where they are illegal) rather than continuing with the pregnancy and putting the child up for adoption, but they are many and complicated. Basically - bodily autonomy is why it exists, why most people support it. Its not about the righ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 05:04 PM |
| 2 | Being considered "marriage material" as a man is an insult and a bad thingYeah I wanted to try and be careful about not being too prescriptive with that, but then my post would have been even longer. I'm in my early 30s as I said. Sitting around talking about mortgages and promotions bores the shit out of me. I tend to gravitate towards the kids table (get bonus points for being nice to people's kids, but really its just hearing about how someone thinks they saw a dinosaur in the park yesterday is far more interesting than hearing about how someone is doing their kitc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/18 10:39 AM |
| 8 | Being considered "marriage material" as a man is an insult and a bad thingAnother thing is why are these women only wanting to settle down when they're approaching their late 20s to 30s? You honestly believe this is purely some cynical self judgement 'I'm hitting the wall so I might not be able to get chad's cock as easily anymore, better find me a provider'? Does that tally with your own experience not just from your life but of yourself (I suppose I don't know how old you are...)? I'm not saying women never consider how its easier dating when you're young and fertil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/18 09:52 AM |
| 2 | Q4W : Dear women, what advice would you give to your brother or son on how to avoid women who could potentially see them as beta bucks.Wut? Now if by chance you know this woman, and aware of the past relationships she had ( "fun" with chad) and now was looking a guy with whom "she could build a serious future" So..... does my theoretical brother/son want a serious long term relationship? Because if they do.... then that seems like a good thing? Surely? Its a silly question, really. If I thought this woman genuinely loved/was coming to love my family member, it really doesn't matter at all how many men she has fucked or whether … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/18 08:25 PM |
| 6 | Raising my son made me question what female empowerment is doing to boysMost mothers would not allow their sons to learn this. Are you kidding me? This is pretty much 'normal response to sibling bullshit'. "He shouldn't have hit you/thrown you/kicked you etc. but then when you are in his face like that, what do you think is going to happen?" My younger brother used to constantly get in my face, take my things, etc (and at the time it used to especially piss me off because he used to get away with it because he was younger while I would get punished for doing anythin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/18 08:06 PM |
| 9 | Raising my son made me question what female empowerment is doing to boysI've thought about this - to be honest the parts of this article posted (refuse to click through to Daily Fail) assures me that I don't have to worry and other people don't get it. I have no children currently, hope to in the next couple of years. I've also spent years working with children, primarily teenagers, primarily those struggling to get by in life. Many of them have had self esteem issues, and about half of them have been boys. Raising boys to be considerate, aware and emotionally stabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/18 06:00 PM |
| 4 | Divorce Laws are Mostly Unfair to Women, Actually.At least tell us all what you made in a year I said he made more than me in my original post. I made £20,000 a year. He makes around £26,000 a year (I know this because I saw his role posted). I applied for a similar one but lost out because I don't have as much 'customer facing' experience (not my main experience area). On average, men work something like ten more hours per week for a full-time job, than do women. And the women do more childcare and domestic labour. Which is generally why they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 07:13 AM |
| 2 | Divorce Laws are Mostly Unfair to Women, Actually.I'm sorry but based on the nurses I know, I disagree. Most qualified nurses (which generally involves high levels of qualification, normally some sort of degree) could never expect to earn the same type of money if they just decided to pack it in and work elsewhere. The levels of burnout in high stress, female dominated roles - medicine, nursing, teaching, social work - are immense. And generally when these professionals get to this point, they don't really have anywhere else to go anyway, other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 07:51 PM |
| 4 | Divorce Laws are Mostly Unfair to Women, Actually.The more dangerous, the more physically demanding, the more stressing jobs, and they also work for more hours, it's a statistical proven fact. Men who live in less demanding and stressful conditions tend to live a lifespan as long as women. Can you evidence this? In terms of 'working hours', discounting childcare? And more stressful? Because I can name similar level jobs where it would be the other way round - for example many would agree that being a hospital nurse is just as, if not more, stre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 07:19 PM |
| 6 | Divorce Laws are Mostly Unfair to Women, Actually.working harder than women in their workplaces I disagree with a lot of your post, but this is the one that stood out to me. What makes you believe this? The 'more dangerous' part I'll allow, because for the most part the most dangerous jobs are jobs normally done by men (though it isn't like EVERY guy is in a dangerous job). There is no evidence of this statement, so your assumption must be anecdotal. Anecdotally, last year I was working what I would describe as a pretty hard job. I had to be th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 06:26 PM |
| 14 | Reddit hates /r/TRP because it's filled with nerds. Not because of misogyny .Those are some pretty giant.... they're not even logical leaps, more like logical pole vaults over the abyss. 'If all that is x is y, then y is s, because s is also a letter'. Reddit loooooves itself some socially awkward nerds. Because it attracts the kind of people who like to say things on the internet but are too scared to do it on stuff linked to 'social media' because that is too much like talking in real life.... because that is scary and people might look at you and oh my god. If you loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 05:07 PM |
| 0 | Doesn't the Jordan Peterson-phenomenon refute the BP claim that "sanitized RP" would be totally uncontroversial and acceptable?Modern American women seem to think exposed cleavage and legs is not provocative enough to justify any sort of response. Men are supposed to pretend that displays of that nature aren’t distracting. ..... sort of. What does and does not constitute provocative is cultural, and subjective. In some periods of history, the idea of a woman showing her knees was considered saucy, and part of the idea behind the hijab is that in cultures in some muslim countries women's hair was/is considered provocativ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/18 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Doesn't the Jordan Peterson-phenomenon refute the BP claim that "sanitized RP" would be totally uncontroversial and acceptable?He was actually making a point about how provocation invites certain behaviors, and that if sexual desirability were minimized, it reduces the risk of provoking a sexual response. He didn't claim that is the way it should be, simply that that is the way it is. He didn't say women should wear burqa or whatever else to eliminate their sexuality. Is it the way it is, though? This is my issue with what he says on this, and really with Peterson in general. He makes statements like this, implies that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Doesn't the Jordan Peterson-phenomenon refute the BP claim that "sanitized RP" would be totally uncontroversial and acceptable?I said this elsewhere but I genuinely have not ever worn make up for a reason other than to impress men (it's not something you can wear in my field), and my mother (born in '61) can't wear make up regularly because of sensitive skin. That's why I defended that position. Fair enough if that is the only reason you have ever worn make-up, but obviously that isn't the case across the board. Is certain styles of make-up more appropriate for the workplace than others? Yeah, probably. Like if I went t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 09:18 PM |
| 3 | Doesn't the Jordan Peterson-phenomenon refute the BP claim that "sanitized RP" would be totally uncontroversial and acceptable?From the clips I have seen he was basically saying 'I just want to talk about how women wearing make-up could be contributing to sexual harassment, but noooo we're not allowed to do that because victim blaming, I just want to address all issues' type stuff. Which is kind of silly because 1) Women do not wear make-up solely to attract men. Of course they don't. When I'm putting on my make-up before work, for example, I'm less thinking 'how do I make men think I'm more attractive?' and more thinki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 08:36 PM |
| 0 | Thinking going mgtow because current f/26 girlfriend M/29but you tried to deflect any blame on the female when there isn't any to begin with I didn't mean because you tried to blame the woman, you didn't really. I mean she is to blame in that she sounds immature, and she isn't being considerate of what her partner obviously wants from the relationship. But there isn't much to be done about that - you can change your own behaviour, you can't change other people's, its about what he should do not about judging her either way. Which, and you might not be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Thinking going mgtow because current f/26 girlfriend M/29I wasn't sure that is what she was doing. If it was, then yeah, that is bad. Women can abuse with just the same intent as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 01:41 PM |
| -1 | Thinking going mgtow because current f/26 girlfriend M/29I meant being controlling for the sake of wanting to exert control and power over another person, not wanting them to have their own life out of jealousy and paranoia that they have a life outside of you. Following someone around because you're scared of living alone or making your own friends isn't quite the same. It isn't totally clear from this what camp this falls into. It can still be unhealthy, destructive and not good to be in a relationship with. But it isn't the same pattern as 'emotion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 09:30 AM |
| 6 | Thinking going mgtow because current f/26 girlfriend M/29If you switch the genders and post this on /r/twoXX or /r/relationship they'll tell you that you are in a toxic and emotionally abusive relationship and should bail. There is a difference between someone who doesn't like their partner going out because 'control' and someone who doesn't like their partner going out because they're lonely and don't have any friends. Sometimes its clear which it is, in this case it isn't just from the information given. Its funny because your 'RP' advice is basical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 08:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Who is more "oppressed": an elite female escort who makes $300/hour or a man who makes $15/hour (or less) doing menial labor or working as a cashier or something?Exactly. Life is all about risk-reward. I don't see why that means anything in terms of my original point. Bricklaying for example is thankfully not a hugely risky job these days. Labour jobs come with a risk of injury yes, but they're generally safer now than say policing. Hell in a lot of ways they're safer than social work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Who is more "oppressed": an elite female escort who makes $300/hour or a man who makes $15/hour (or less) doing menial labor or working as a cashier or something?Why? What is the point of taking a risk if there is no reward? Classically women used to take risks all the time, childbirth used to be a massive risk, hitching yourself to some dude is a massive risk. Bricklaying isn't really a massive risk. I'm all for women taking risky jobs, and honestly I think if it were more accepted and they considered it more, they would. Like working on an oil rig. That shit pays AMAZINGLY comparative to most jobs of similar skill. We should obviously go all out to in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 11:21 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Who is more "oppressed": an elite female escort who makes $300/hour or a man who makes $15/hour (or less) doing menial labor or working as a cashier or something?Not all women are working in air conditioned offices. There are working women with jobs relative to the male labourers. Domestic work (cleaning ladies etc.), carers/healthcare assistants/bottom rung nurses (cleaning and caring for the disabled/elderly), childcare workers. How you feel about any of these roles and labouring is going to depend on you and your preferences, but they are all what you could describe as 'toil'. All of these pay significantly less than most labour jobs - a lot of the re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 02:30 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL: Who is more "oppressed": an elite female escort who makes $300/hour or a man who makes $15/hour (or less) doing menial labor or working as a cashier or something?However, the elite clientele tend to be wealthy (how could they not be? unless they saved up to splurge on a fancy escort?), cultured, and gentlemanly...they probably treat the women extremely well. There are plenty of rich, cultured sex offenders. Plenty of rich power-tripping men whose wanting to be in control in the boardroom carries on to their wanting to exert control personally over their wives/girlfriends/sexual partners. My understanding is that elite sex workers have more control over w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Friendship with the opposite sexI feel like it would be a crappy move to just say "hey, just so you know I don't want to date you" because what if his intention is the same as mine and that's to just be friends with someone with common interests? If you are worried him getting the wrong impression, there are ways to put this that aren't necessarily a crappy move or insulting to him. You could say "Hey, this might sound really weird, but I was thinking about it and I could see how someone from the outside could think we were da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Do you feel entitled to someone else’s body?Its funny because you seem to be making a hyper-capitalist/libertarian argument comparing taxation to the entitlement to other bodies sexually, when I've repeatedly seen people make Marxist arguments comparing capitalist labour exploitation to the entitlement to other bodies sexually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 12:09 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.But isn't that worse? Because it doesn't describe it and also because it moves from 'cultural ideas around man-hood' to 'something inherently relating to all people who are XY/identify as male', and because it implies all male socialisation may be bad, and seems to refer to all socialisation of men rather than the specifically gendered. For example I would expect to see that phrase in terms of 'young boys joining football clubs and bonding with team mates is a common form of male socialisation'.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 09:33 AM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.How? Would you prefer 'destructive hegemonic masculinity'? Because I'll say that instead but that seems just as negative..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 09:26 AM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.No I mean... I'm not... that was my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 09:23 AM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.You are kind of agreeing with me in the opposite direction. Why would you use a term which was good or neutral to describe something which is by definition destructive? Not that men are destructive (other versions people have suggested say 'male' instead of men, but surely the whole point is that this is to do with socially influenced behaviour rather than what is between your legs, and the latter is actually a lot more insulting to men), but that the cultural phenomena when taken to it's extrem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 09:22 AM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Men aren't oppressed so they aren't allowed to be offended essentially. Absolutely they can be offended. But what I'm saying is that the language I'm using it not one of current of historical oppression, and that isn't even why people are saying they are offended by it. Give it a new name and talk about it to your heart's content. So I'm supposed to talk about an idea based on people acting destructively what they believe to be like-a-man in order to avoid being seen as like-a-woman, but I'm not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 10:28 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.But offence is relative. There are terms which are clearly derogatory slang and a person would have no reason to use in any constructive manner. There are terms which were once acceptable but have massive negative connotations to an oppressed minority group and are easily exchanged for more modern terms ('retard' and 'person with learning/intellectual disabilities' being an obvious one). The genesis of this word by men to protect men does mean something. Then there are words that you could just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 10:16 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Constructive..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 09:55 PM |
| 0 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Massive thanks for posting all of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 09:55 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.How in any shape or way is it harmful to women in avoiding the term when you can easily talk about it without using the term? Because avoiding the use of the word 'masculinity' when that is exactly what this is about (conforming to social ideas of man-hood in a destructive fashion in order to avoid social ideas of woman-hood) is to sanitise not in order to be considerate to the 'trigger points' of the group it discriminates against, because it actually refers to a type of discrimination in which… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 09:50 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Then that isn't toxic. This is talking about behaviours that are destructive to the person and those around them. If the behaviour isn't destructive, then it doesn't count. Everyone (men and women) can be 'aggressive' sometimes, and this can be both a good or a bad thing depending on the amount and circumstance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 02:24 PM |
| 3 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Not to a T. In that instance black people are still the group that are considered lesser in the society. What you are describing there is in-group pressures - maybe based upon both wanting to fit in and wanting to appear strong in the face of prejudice. As for how black people want to characterise behaviour to best fit and support their own community is up to them, I really don't know enough about what that is like to comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 02:21 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.why is a woman acting traditionally feminine and being happy about it considered regressive It depends what you mean by that, but on the face of it - it shouldn't be. There is nothing inherently wrong, or better or worse, with having masculine traits or feminine traits, liking masculine/feminine things, displaying masculine/feminine behaviours. Only when those things are continued to destructive levels or used to negative ends. It depends what you mean by a woman 'acting traditionally feminine'.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 02:15 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Nah, thats what its always meant.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 01:48 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.There is no point in using the word here unless you want to rile people up(which is what I see in this post thus far). Obviously I can't prove my intentions but I can only honestly state that they were not to rile people up. They were to provide an argument for why I think that not only is it unnecessary to get riled up, I think the inclusion of the word 'masculinity' in the term is not only not inflammatory but is necessary to convey it's meaning. And I'm going to push this a little bit further… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 01:42 PM |
| 0 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.In many cultures this is the case. Look at South Africa. Er.... yeah.....? (A handful of white ghettos does not entirely change what apartheid was about or the fact that South Africa is still massively unequal in wealth and power along racial terms, with white people very much being the top of the pile. Also anecdotally I've know a few white South Africans from both rich and poor backgrounds and they predominantly tend to be racist as all fuck.) But I mean yeah, theoretically if there was some p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 01:19 PM |
| -1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.That alone should make it suspect; how any group can literally say, "gendered words are meaningful to the intent," and then, "...but FEMINISM is for both women AND men," without their heads exploding from cognitive dissonance is beyond me. Because feminist theory is all about gender and ideas of 'masculinity' and 'femininity' that aren't entirely linked to 'this is what men are like' and 'this is what women' are like are pretty integral to it? Like the text I am writing in can be described as 'b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 01:12 PM |
| 7 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.This would only make sense if black people were perceived to be superior to white people, and the behaviour that black people were presenting which was harmful to white people was as a result of their fear of looking like white people. Otherwise yeah you'd just be being racist. "Oh I'm totally not attacking men, I'm just attacking their nature which makes them hate women, it's totally different!" But the whole point is that this is referring to behaviour and thoughts that are not just someone's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 01:03 PM |
| 4 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.This, unfortunately, is where "toxic Masculinity" comes from... Why can't men be more like women??? But the whole point of the term is it describes behaviour/thoughts stemming from men trying not to be like women. I feel I need to be clear here - the phrase refers to an aspect of thought/behaviour believed to arise from social gendered conditioning. Say if a man is aggressive because he feels he has to be in order not to appear un-masculine, then that is toxic masculinity. If a man is aggressive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 12:56 PM |
| 2 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.I disagree with you there. This is both the origin of the phrase (within feminist theory) and predominantly how I see it used in this subreddit. I do often see what appears to be someone using it correctly and someone in response to them being upset or offended because they have perceived it as an insult (not because they are stupid, because I get how a negative word and a word associated with man-ness put together can appear as such). It is a negative term, so yes the person using it is most li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 12:36 PM |
| 3 | Are career women doomed to be miserable and unhappy in their romantic lives?Feeling is not an argument. But I can see that a lot of people may be trying to impose that beliefs. I personally say the things I say because I see a lot, and I mean A LOT, of people feeding young women the idea that they can have it all. They can't. That is a harmful lie. I don't know. I suppose 'I have a feeling' was a more polite way of putting 'I can quite clearly see this happening all the damn time'. As I replied in my other post, 'have it all' is a wooly concept and what you can achieve … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/18 10:15 PM |
| 3 | Are career women doomed to be miserable and unhappy in their romantic lives?So they both choose to have a good relationship between themselves and with their children at the expense of their careers. I mean, if they didn't use their time in their children or each other then they would have a better job/career. I think that may be a really good deal. Yes, if they had been devoted to their careers so much they'd chosen to focus entirely on that instead of having a relationship/children, they probably would have progressed further. But they wanted those things, and they we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/18 10:03 PM |
| 5 | Are career women doomed to be miserable and unhappy in their romantic lives?It's a lot easier to start a career at 21 than it is at 31 as well. Plus if you had a child at 21, who is paying for all the stuff it needs? And what about the father? Is it OK for them to have a career and a family at the same time, or are both of you not supposed to work for a decade? Because I'd argue that if you can't have the time to be a good mother/wife and have a job, then you can't have the time to be a good husband/father and have a job. If he is working constantly to support you all, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/18 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Are career women doomed to be miserable and unhappy in their romantic lives?No my dad didn't do that, he loved coming home to us and would refuse extra stuff for that reason, he was talking about his colleagues. I want a middling career job, though it isn't going so well so far. I'd like to have more-than-minimum-wage pay and some creative input/opportunity to advance a bit if I'm going to have to work for the rest of my life, but I'm not really bothered about working that much so I'm not hoping to be top of the game either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/18 09:19 PM |
| 3 | Are career women doomed to be miserable and unhappy in their romantic lives?It could work. But you should take in consideration that the pregnancy and the child raising will be easier and have less complications when you are young. She said 30s and one child. Before 35 the raise in complications is barely anything and even 35+ when the risk starts getting more, its an incremental thing. Most 30 somethings are more than capable of having the energy to keep up with young kids, and the risk of kicking the bucket before they reach adulthood is still low. Having a kid at 20 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/18 08:24 PM |
| 5 | Are career women doomed to be miserable and unhappy in their romantic lives?My dad always claimed he knew guys who would purposefully take extra hours at work, because they had young kids at home and they preferred being at work where everyone had to be respectful to them and things made sense rather than being screamed at by a 6 year old who won't go to bed. I don't think that was most of them, but he felt it was enough to be a phenomenon. Personally my boyfriend and I debate who is going to be the housewife/househusband, in that we both want it to be us, because work … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/18 08:11 PM |
| 3 | Toronto Man pledges allegiance to Incel rebellion and kills 10 people in terrorist attackAn anecdote! When I was far younger, I was pretty easy to rile up. My mother had the annoying habit to say "just don't let them provoke you" . A piece of advice that managed to be simultaneously spot-on (had I managed to be totally unfazed by my classmates' attempts of riling me up, it would have stopped) while simultaneously being completely and utterly useless - for the simple reason that you can't control your own emotional response (and the way you communicate it to the outside) at will. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 12:30 PM |
| 2 | Toronto Man pledges allegiance to Incel rebellion and kills 10 people in terrorist attackFor starters, I think that the guys you know aren't strange enough to qualify in this regard (and I assume that they got lucky at some point which further improved their standing): it's one thing if you just behave strangely (i.e. have a slight uncanny valley-vibe) or really act out your strangeness like Minassian or Elliot Rodger did, who apparently didn't even make an attempt to socialize normally with women. I don't think it's a question of levels of strangeness though. These guys I know are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 11:05 AM |
| 7 | Toronto Man pledges allegiance to Incel rebellion and kills 10 people in terrorist attackIts interesting because I hadn't seen a picture of him before I clicked that link, but he looks almost eerily like a friend of mine (who is also prematurely balding). In the few years I've known this friend I've witnessed him happily date and have casual sex with no issue. The mental health argument is misleading, to be perfectly honest. This guy had ASD, and difficulty with social interaction likely related to that. But you know what, loads of people have ASD. And I don't mean to minimise the d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 08:34 AM |
| 3 | Difference between dad jokes and mom jokes and what it means for reactions to age between GendersDo 40+ or whatever men still really feel like that, though? Because young women want to feel pretty, absolutely - not like random men are cat-calling them or leering or whatever, but if you're say a single young woman in a bar it's nice to have a guy flirt with you and to feel attractive. But I mean, I'm 32, and while when I was 22 if I'd gone to a bar or whatever and the guys I'd been making eyes at or whatever had just ignored me I'd have been down about it, or I looked bad that day and I woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/18 05:26 PM |
| 11 | Difference between dad jokes and mom jokes and what it means for reactions to age between GendersThis is it exactly. I feel like a lot of guys who come out with the 'women past 35/40/whatever are expendable and don't matter anymore' are also the ones who don't really believe women have a worth beyond their genitals. "Society doesn't prize you for being a hot piece anymore! You want to cry, right? Go and cry!". Erm, so what? My family prize me because of what I mean to them, my friends prize me for being a good friend, the people I work with and for prize me for the job I do, I always only w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/18 04:44 PM |
| 6 | Why do women have casual sex?Evidence that a higher N-count leads to higher infidelity and divorce later in life. Study by the heritage foundation. I'm sure most of you know what I'm talking about. It's a bit controversial to some, but regardless doesn't look good for women. Cause, effect and correlation. People with a higher sex drive are more likely to want to cheat (not necessarily will because cheating is a moral thing, but they're more likely to want to, and therefore overall more of them will). People who are more imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/18 01:27 PM |
| 14 | Why is making a guy wait longer than a month a bad thing to some?OR split the bill, and do away with the notion that the guy is 'taking the girl out'. That way you can both be assured that if you keep turning up for more, you enjoy each other's company, you're both getting that out of it, and you can have sex when you're both ready. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 01:22 PM |
| 11 | "Post-wall women" stay single because they have absurd expectationsReally? cause most of the doctors I know either as a patient or on personal friend basis are south Asian/east Asian and married to their looks/careers/culture/age match. Ditto white doctors. I know a LOT of doctors (mainly white and south asian), generally in their early 30s but a few in their 60s as well, and basically all of them are married to other doctors. My brother is a single doctor. He isn't particularly handsome (I'm not really the one to ask though obviously) but he is far from ugly, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/18 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN: How has your experiences been showing weakness and asking for help? How has this shaped your current view of the world?Right - I get where you're coming from. But what I'm after here is anecdotes that can shine some light on why certain men don't seem to open up, even though society promotes this "new" view of men and has done so since long before I was born. Again I get where you're coming from, but I don't know if this is going to shine light on much, because the sample here is pretty unusual and many already hold a very specific set of beliefs that many outside this group would consider extreme. Could you exp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/18 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Q4MEN: How has your experiences been showing weakness and asking for help? How has this shaped your current view of the world?It sounds like you girls need to choose your friends and partners better. There is a difference between what people in this thread are talking about and an abusive relationship, though. It's not 'I felt down, and then my girlfriend constantly accused me of cheating and said hurtful things to me and wore me down, and then she started destroying my possessions and hitting me etc.'. Its 'I was struggling and I tried to open up to various people and they were all cold and no one cared'. It's not eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/18 03:35 PM |
| 9 | Q4all: do you think men would be happy in this type of society?I think there is a stark difference between 'miserable' and 'not all sunshine and rainbows'. A lot of old married people I know have issues in their marriage, some tensions and maybe niggling resentments that are as much about their life/career choice mistakes than deep down they are each other ('the grass is always greener'), but still love each other deeply and would choose staying together in a heartbeat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/18 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Study: Tattooing is associated with being lower in education, higher in risk-taking behavior like smoking, greater number of lifetime partners, and depression (men only)I don't really know how a posh-ass would be different to a not posh-ass. Asses are the great leveller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/18 08:01 PM |
| 2 | Study: Tattooing is associated with being lower in education, higher in risk-taking behavior like smoking, greater number of lifetime partners, and depression (men only)What kind of boring-ass posh person school did you go to? (I say that because I also went to posh person school and they still had plenty of time in between the studying for tattoos and sneaking off to get fucked up in the park.) Anyway all I can access of this study is the abstract and it doesn't seem they controlled for.... well, anything. Working class people more likely to be 'tradesmen' (wtf?), smoke and not have a money cushion to sort shit for them. Working class australian culture has ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/18 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?But meds are one of the least effective treatments. Studies show fucking lifting weights, running, getting regular sleep, balancing your gut flora, or even switching to keto are as effective for low-grade depression, if not moreso. Ok but you can do all that shit on your own. So if the man doesn't know anyone else, who should he turn to? A bottle of booze? Heroin? A gun? We're not stupid. Most of us know you want to have fun and drink and talk about movies, so that's why we don't reach out at al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Meds help a lot of people. The thing with low-mid depression especially is that sadly a few pills with a 10 min chat and 'come back in two weeks/then every other month' and perhaps a short course of counselling is the best you're going to get. Male or female, anywhere. The statistics are that less men approach even for that. They don't say that though. They play social politics better. They first say "aww poor you I would love to help, call me any time". She doesn't want others thinking she's a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Because there are fewer services for men at all, and less enthusiasm to help men. I don't know about where you are, but generally you go to your doctor (GP, family doctor, etc.) if you are experiencing the symptoms of depression. Generally they can provide some treatment (meds). I was once referred onto a therapy service, and it also supported men (officially and also there were men there). Residential treatment has both male and female patients. I mean I'm sure there are female specific mental … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?I honestly know very few girls (or boys) who learn best in the classic 'read books, make linear notes, memorise' way. It's what most students (girls and boys/men and women) do, just because it's what they think they're supposed to do, and the ones who succeed with it tend to just be the ones who are naturally diligent with good memories as opposed to it necessarily being the best for them. I think you overestimate the gender grouping in all this, to be honest. The only technique that worked for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 04:04 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?I agree and disagree. As someone with ADHD and dyslexia (as you can guess probably influenced some of my mentioned low self confidence and also why I was in this type of job), believe me I understand about internalising how you don't fit in at school. Funnily enough also in the class of the kid mentioned was a student who was far more uncontrollably impatient/loud/boisterous that he was, and that was a girl. Maybe it does impact boys more than girls, but I think the 'synthetic' as you put it env… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 02:39 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Also you might be interested in this anecdote: There was a 13 year old boy I was working with a while ago, he had a few behavioural problems and wasn't doing all that well in school but he was far from the worst of the bunch. One time I was having to talk to him about all this and he said (to the word) 'You just don't like me because I'm a bit of a lad'. It kind of surprised me because: 1) I knew what he meant by being a bit of a lad - he was 'the type' who was generally found joking around with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 01:57 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Is there research suggesting otherwise in a modern setting? Could you share it? Unfortunately I don't have the means to do a lit search right now so I can't. So fair enough you have no reason to believe me there. This is a bit unrelated, but I'll pick up on it. It's not unrelated to what I was attempting to say. My point was that women and especially girls in schools tend to underestimate their abilities, particularly (but not exclusively) in maths/science . Actually this may be what is partiall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 01:15 PM |
| 0 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Woman Men commit suicide at a much higher rate than women - especially when you take into consideration young men with no history of mental illness. Men are less likely to talk about their problems than women, less likely to approach services, likely for fear of being judged as 'weak' or being told they should not talk about their feelings. Also partially men are more likely to have been spit out by the armed forces and in some places that has a link to mental health issues. Men die earlier. Mix… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 11:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV - I'm sick of hearing that women dropping out of work to have kids is a "sacrifice".The thing I think maybe the way you're interpreting 'sacrifice' different ways than I and some other people are. I always thought that to an extent it was just part of making a decision - even a positive one for what you prefer - will often have negatives or result in doors closing. Like I could 'sacrifice' my career in order to stay at home with children (or take a part time job that will mean that I will never get the kind of thing I want to do most) but not resent that decision because I havi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/18 01:56 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill IncelsI know people on here love to hate on psychology and therapy, and I am not a doctor and even if I was a doctor I'd know better than to diagnose people based on internet posts. BUT The excerpted post above just smacks so heavily of depression that its like someone wrote it to be a textbook example. Being constantly 'triggered' by everything and everyone into feeling like you're a worthless piece of shit, and then not being able to control your ruminating on being a worthless piece of shit? That's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/18 12:00 PM |
| 10 | Q4ALL: What do women give in relationships? (and how this relates to my theory that y'alls have a serious attitude problem)My husband just texted me to let me know he did all the laundry since he didn't go to work today. Laundry is normally my job; I do it on Friday nights while he is at game night with his friends. I don't mind it, it's an easy task and doesn't take long. But I still feel grateful that he did it because that's one less thing I have to do. And who cares if he'd be doing laundry anyway if he were single? The fact that HE did the laundry this week means I don't have to do it, so why shouldn't I be app… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What do women give in relationships? (and how this relates to my theory that y'alls have a serious attitude problem)That's quite a common way of expressing love I think. I am the same in many ways. I like to cook dinner for my partner and see that he is enjoying it and it is making him happy, because I actually enjoy doing things for others I love. I have to stop myself going 'Hey, is it ok? Are you enjoying it?' because it is probably annoying. I mean, it's not true altruism, but acts of true altruism are pretty few and far between even by 'good people'. Enjoying feeling good about yourself because you've do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Why is male circumcision, not taken as seriously as it should be?Britain is trailing behind though Honestly, I'm British and I've never met anyone who I know to be circumcised for reasons other than religion or medical. As a kid I knew what circumcision was because I remember it being talked out by my mum and my brother, as something that Jewish and Muslim boys had (where I grew up has fair sized Jewish and Muslim communities), and that it was a religious thing but spoken of as a bit 'weird'. Then when I was like 17 or so I saw that episode of Sex & the City … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/18 09:05 AM |
| 3 | Who does feminism truly stand for?expected to I think thats the element they object to. 'Thou must lose all interest in the outside world from the moment of conception lest you be a terrible mother'. I've never met a woman who 'dumped' her children at daycare, generally they drop their children off at a carefully selected group they have a constant relationship with while they do their other shit they have to, while still thinking about their kids because of course they are. Thats the reality vs the 'modern woman' hate dream. No… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Who does feminism truly stand for?Don't have a baby: selfish bitch, you're not a real woman, denying your purpose not living your life to the full. Do have a baby: you don't care about anything else, probably using the father for his sperm, facebook posting obsessive waster. Work again after having a baby: you're a terrible mother, the childs needs your nurturing, you're denying your drives because the feminazis told you to. Don't work again after having a baby: god knows what we'd talk about, cute shoeless home mother, what do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Who does feminism truly stand for?And also feet, and livers, and colons, and hamstrings. And brains, though apparently the jury is out on that one. Ironic really, considering 'You have uterus! Make baby! Purpose! But feminists think bad!' was the whole argument of OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 10:10 PM |
| 9 | Who does feminism truly stand for?Euuuuuuugh. But women will never be the same as men. That's because a man could never measure up to a women. A man will never create life in his womb. He will never give birth to another human being. A man will never nurture an infant with the nectar that his very body produces. A man will never have vaginal thrush. A man will never get mastitis after someone has sucked their nipples until they are sore and bleeding. A man will never have an errant embryo rupture their fallopian tubes and kill t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 12:42 PM |
| 1 | What is women's "locker room talk" really like?It's weird to me that women would actually talk about divorce raping men When we were kids at school, and sometimes in college, we used to talk about how we were going to marry an old millionaire and have sex with the gardener while we wait for him to die. It was a joke, though. No one actually did it. To be honest marrying for money with the intention of 'divorce raping' men or marrying really old dudes isn't the ideal life choice if you have any choices. Most women would choose making some of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/18 07:47 AM |
| 1 | QForMen: What kind of man would you want your daughter to date?Well the 'non resident parent' is supposed to pay child support, and that does include 'biological parents' as well as 'legal parents'. So if you're the mother you're going to have to pay up, but I have no idea to what extent a possible father can be forced to undergo genetic testing against his will if he claimed not to be the child's biological parent, and what his legal situation would then be in terms of parental responsibility if he decided he wanted to see the child, I've never been involv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/18 10:21 AM |
| 2 | QForMen: What kind of man would you want your daughter to date?Not really, in the UK at least. Plenty of birth certificates have no father on them. Generally if the couple are in a relationship and/or the man wants to be a parent to the child, they'll sign because otherwise they have zero legal responsibility towards the child and technically the mother could just decide to never let them see the kid again and there would be little they could do legally speaking. But sometimes they decide not to. I know a woman where the dad refused to sign the birth certif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Intelligence is unattractiveYes. People are talking about 'kinds' of intelligence 'oh its social intelligence not true nerdy intelligence'. No. Its just how it is expressed. If some guy just walks up to a woman and blankly says 'I can do really difficult maths', of course that isn't really attractive in itself. What are you supposed to do with that information? Either its your area as well, but I don't think we're talking about that kind of interaction, or its basically meaningless in terms of your interaction with that pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 11:49 AM |
| 8 | Intelligence is unattractiveThe thing with athlete interviews, football (soccer) players being the obvious one that I've seen a lot of, is that you've got to keep in mind who they are and the situation they're in. You're a professional footballer who is really good at football. Its unlikely you've focussed much on academics at all since you were like 15, not necessarily because you're inherently stupid, but because practicing football took up all your time - you wouldn't have been in the debating society honing your abilit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 11:35 AM |
| 4 | Feminists Arnt Radical EnoughYeah this is very much already a thing. The more capitalist feminist ideas about female CEOs and securing positions of power for women vs more socialist feminist ideas about real equality (both gender and racial) involving the dissolution of patriarchal power structures altogether. Many an article/paper/blog has been written on it, much debate already had under the feminist umbrella. Which is to be expected, considering that women tend to hold varying political ideals alongside gender equality, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 03:44 PM |
| 18 | Feminism needs to stop pushing young women towards casual sexAm feminist. Have never had sex outside of a proper relationship. No feminist has ever told me there is something wrong with me. If I'd said I haven't had casual sex because 'then I will be like a used piece of chewing gum' or 'then I won't be able to form a proper relationship' or 'then I'll be a dirty slut' - then they'd say there was something wrong, in that they'd say I have internalised patriarchal misogynistic messages about female sexuality. And they'd be correct. Personally I've just nev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/18 02:44 PM |
| 0 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .unless a participant wishes to cease. Then and ONLY then do they want communication to occur So.... like a safe word/act? Because surely then that is fine? (I mean this sex sounds.... a bit weird and boring... but each to their own I suppose...) I don't really see how the state is interfering in this couple's sex if their sex is consensual, when the whole point of this is to help people identify non-consensual acts. If both parties are consenting then it is consensual. If I'm having sex lying on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 03:33 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .unless a participant wishes to cease. Then and ONLY then do they want communication to occur So.... like a safe word/act? Because surely then that is fine? (I mean this sex sounds.... a bit weird and boring... but each to their own I suppose...) I don't really see how the state is interfering in this couple's sex if their sex is consensual, when the whole point of this is to help people identify non-consensual acts. If both parties are consenting then it is consensual. If I'm having sex lying on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 03:33 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated .Then that is something you and your partner will have previously established. The whole point of the non-enthusiasm thing is to give the other party indicators of when the sex isn't consensual. If its consensual then its consensual, end of story. The fact is, most people who are having consensual sex are active participants in the act. There are some people who prefer to just lay their quietly, but that is something that can easily be ascertained through conversation. It mainly applies to first … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 03:03 PM |
| 8 | CMV: There are ultimately two kinds of sexual assault and rape, and they need to be differentiated ."Hey, do you want me to keep going, you don't seem that enthusiastic?" "Yeah, keep going" Fixed the problem for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/18 01:45 PM |
| 10 | Feminist hatred for "nice guys", a discussion and the reason the "nice guy" is a jerk is that he stops being friends after being rejectedGuys who are sneaky in acting like they just want to be your friend when they don't really enjoy your company and just want to get into your pants, and then get all angry at you and want nothing to do with you (but still show up to insult you) - those guys are creepy and do deserve to be mocked. Guys who want to sleep with you but you don't want to sleep with them, but who aren't duplicitous or mean or act entitled to you, they don't deserve to be mocked. Some people apparently don't know how to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 09:32 AM |
| 8 | Feminist hatred for "nice guys", a discussion and the reason the "nice guy" is a jerk is that he stops being friends after being rejectedIF the guy does not still continue being friends ,NEWS FLASH HE IS AS BAD AS A RAPIST AND IS PROMOTING RAPE CULTURE What the fuck, man? Having read the stuff on Blue Pill and the NiceGuys subreddit, this is literally what no one says ever. The reasons people get pissed off at and mock 'Nice Guys TM' is the HYPOCRISY, and particularly annoyance at that hypocrisy towards you if you are the object of their affections. Its when someone insists that they're the nicest, sweetest and most considerate p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 08:52 AM |
| 9 | Q4BPW What does "to be a good wife" mean to most women?Well a wife is a spouse, so in that respect the traits of 'what makes a good wife' will be included in 'what makes a great spouse'. A good wife is a good spouse, just of the specifically female kind. What you appear to be looking for is 'what are the gender specific traits required to be a good female spouse that are different to those required to be a good male spouse'. What I and others have replied is that we believe those features will be more specific to what the individual doing the marryi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 05:10 PM |
| 10 | Q4BPW What does "to be a good wife" mean to most women?Yes, this. (Not married am engaged in very LTR, but also based on marriages of others I have witnessed over my life). For all the 'So you saying that men and women are the same!?!?!' - the almost universal traits of what makes a good spouse are non gender specific. Kindness, being supportive, attentive to needs, caring, loyal, sexual/romantic fulfilment and listening skills. The 'traditional' elements of the specifically 'wife' role (so being the more nurturing to children, keeping the house, be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Women in computer scienceI'm going to put my 'soft science' cards on the table and say - Google memo dude is a real world example of what happens all over the internet constantly when people who don't understand how psychological research works attempt to justify their arguments with psychological studies. The difference is that normally on a thread/comments section the authors of the papers don't see it and come back like "Woah woah woah, that isn't what that says". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/17 11:20 AM |
| 3 | Feminism as Consumerismfacemasks and acrylic nails and nailpolishes and other cosmetics You don't have to buy that shit for girls any more than you have to buy boys designer polo shirts, 500 packets of overpriced football cards and the latest Xbox and Playstation the moment they come out. Its annoying because I've seen families with a lot less money than we had growing up and the 13 yo girls are being bought professionally applied acrylics 'because they have to have them'. My mum would never have given me £25 for a se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 09:18 AM |
| 18 | 42% of Japanese millennial women avoid CC. Why can't Western women?"Why is abstaining until marriage such an unfathomable idea for them"? No, we get what it means as a notion of something someone might do. We just don't, like..... want to. If you want you can try and teach us a lesson by refusing to fuck us/be in a relationship with us unless we wear a chastity belt. But then we'll just sleep with the majority of men who have realised that puritanical ideals about what sex does is based upon a 2000 year old book and dark ages scientific literacy are kind of ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/17 02:14 PM |
| 4 | If you had a son that was a 22 year old virgin, what sort of advice would you give him about women?I didn't lose my virginity until I was almost 25. While the reasons behind that were complicated, the fact that I didn't really have any social interaction with boys I wasn't related to until I was 18 (single sex school, from age of 4 onwards, and due to the area I lived in didn't really have any friends outside school I could just go hang out with) probably had something to do with it. Never had any issues socialising with boys/men when it came to it (I just treat all my friends based on the wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Are “cis” men who allow their sexuality to be co-opted by trans-activists the REAL sissies?I do have to point out that feminism and trans-activism are not synonymous: Even though there can be a lot of overlap between the two, you can still find people who belong to one group but not the other. I've actually met more people who have issues with transitioning as a treatment for gender dysphoria on feminist grounds (that society's gender expectations cause the dysphoria, so for example a boy that likes to wear dresses and play with girl's toys and hang out with girls rather than boys wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/17 04:39 AM |
| 0 | Have you ever dated someone you weren't attracted to? How did it go?Yes. I agreed to go out with him because he seemed like a great guy, and I was young and thought 'Hey, thats what I want, right? I'll start to fancy him eventually'. We dated for a while and it was fun because he was fun to hang out with. But then I realised that eventually we were going to have to sleep together and I really didn't want to sleep with someone I wasn't attracted to. Then of course from his perspective things were going great because I must have found him attractive or I wouldn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/17 02:42 PM |
| 3 | This sub should focus less on the NiceGuy(TM) and instead focus on guys who are genuinely 'nice' but lack game, attractiveness, assertiveness, and are overall just boring. There's a difference between those two.I'm with you. I think also a lot of these guys will come to this stuff to vent after a specific rejection/break up from a specific girl. Its natural to feel hurt and angry about that when it feels like one in a long line of rejections, but its sometimes like they take that pain and fuel from what has just happened and project it onto every single time they have struck out. "I just want a girl I like to like me back" can translate to "I just want Jessica to like me back, you bitch Jessica. So the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/17 02:05 PM |
| 2 | In your opinion, in feminist/social justice theory, what is factual, what is debatable and what is straight up bullshit?Yeah, it depends on the context and we might disagree on the individual instances/amount it happens, but I generally agree with you. Back when I was doing my libtard cuck propaganda vocational post-grad, we had the tongue in cheek references to the 'old one-legged black lesbian'. The idea is that you're supposed to think about how you're approaching a situation and consider 'how would these experiences apply to the old one-legged black lesbian', the fabled individual who encompasses all oppresse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/17 11:00 AM |
| 4 | In your opinion, in feminist/social justice theory, what is factual, what is debatable and what is straight up bullshit?I don't think that is necessarily a 'well, we might as well throw out this whole notion' problem though. 'Privilege' is completely unquantifiable, to consider it a 'score card' is ridiculous. Every (for example) black person's experience in America is going to be somewhat different from every other black person's experience - sometimes because of other intersecting issues (such as socio-economic background) or sometimes just because random luck. Of course. But I don't think that matters because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/17 10:32 AM |
| 5 | In your opinion, in feminist/social justice theory, what is factual, what is debatable and what is straight up bullshit?In between factual and debatable is the issue of privilege. While I can't deny that in general white people, men and heterosexual people are treated better than black people, women, and homosexual people, I don't think you can simplify a person's status in society by making some kind of privilege scorecard. You also have to factor in things like physical attractiveness, wealth, the quality of a person's family/parents, health, what country you were born in, intelligence and just plain old luck. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/17 09:13 AM |
| 2 | A Quick Debunking (if one were needed) of the "Nice Guy" ConstructYes, because being rejected is even harder when thats all you have to build your romantic self image. Most of them eventually moved past it and got girlfriends. Because if you move past the 'I just have to be nice to girls and they will flock' mentality, recognise that you should have realistic expectations of what girls you get and you'll probably strike out quite a bit, and treat women as on an equal rather than a pedestal or scum, eventually most people get somewhere. I mean, I get being piss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/17 03:22 PM |
| 7 | A Quick Debunking (if one were needed) of the "Nice Guy" ConstructI don't know, I've encountered a few over the years. And I've encountered a few who take that frustration out on other women. But you're totally right, I've encountered a lot more guys who were upset when they found out a girl didn't like them but didn't take it out on the girl or any girl. Because most men are reasonable people who can handle logical thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/17 02:12 PM |
| 14 | A Quick Debunking (if one were needed) of the "Nice Guy" ConstructI'd say 'Nice Guys' definitely fit that definition of entitled (I can't tell if you're arguing that they don't). The implication behind the 'Nice Guy' thing is those guys who feel entitled to romantic/sexual attention from women and then treat their lack of this with a bitterness and resentment that is mean spirited and occasionally aggressive (in both language and sometimes physically). Misunderstanding that cues that someone is attracted to you isn't a bad thing in itself - thats simply being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/17 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Why are men still expected to step in to save a woman in trouble?This is it. I've in the past stepped in when I've seen women (both friends and strangers) seemingly being 'carried off' to the bathrooms/elsewhere by a guy or being hassled by a guy. Maybe its because I'm a woman and therefore myself more scared of these men (if they're going to assault another woman there is fair chance they might try and assault me, though I get that understandably guys would also be scared of them), but you do it in ways that are more subtle and less face-punch-y. Take them t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/17 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Why are "feminist" icons men in skirts?It depends on the comic, but if we're talking old school (when Wonder Woman originated), it was aimed at and read by kids. Comics as collectors items and deep adult graphic novels are more recent. Joss Whedon very explicitly stated he created Buffy to be aimed at teenage girls (he may be out of favour these days, but I believe that statement at least). Whether it was then marketed as 'look at the hot blonde girl jump around' is kind of immaterial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/17 05:01 PM |
| 10 | Why are "feminist" icons men in skirts?I think you illuminate the answer to your own question with your title 'men in skirts'. By embracing their physical strength as opposed to downplaying it in order to fit in to their expected role, they subvert the idea that women can only succeed in ways that are 'feminine'. Its not about the idea that 'You too can lift a car over your head!' or 'You too can have the upper body strength of a male bodybuilder!' (though it's worth mentioning that a lot of women who aren't into athletic hobbies und… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/17 09:31 AM |
| 3 | Female interests vs male interestsI was thinking just the other day how I think my interests have been somewhat shaped by social norms. I can be quite 'nerdy' in my interests - this isn't a thing I aspire to be, it just is. Specifically in the way I like details and trivia, things which science/sci-fi/fantasy tend to be designed to feed into. I like lists of things, knowing what episode something happened in, spotting easter eggs. Also I think it has to do with the connectivity - I like when things 'fit together' and connect in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/17 11:54 AM |
| 2 | Q4all: have you noticed an upswing in men putting effort into their appearance in recent years?I don't know how I forgot genetics when I wrote that whole bit about genetics. Well, every time I clean my face (shower/take make-up off, etc). Maybe if I'd never used it my skin would compensate or something, is that what you're saying? I don't know, but I know it has always made my skin feel better. Again, I'm not saying that pricey anti ageing creams with 'de-wrinklehydroxyase' or whatever shit they've made up this week are going to make you look 25 forever. Just that if your skin dehydrates … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 08:43 PM |
| 8 | Q4all: have you noticed an upswing in men putting effort into their appearance in recent years?Nothing will make you age slower Well, that is bullshit. Being generally healthy will help you age slower as a byproduct - eating right, exercise, not drinking too much, not smoking, staying hydrated, sleeping well, avoiding stress. But staying out of the sun and moisturising dry skin will help as well. Its not the only factor by a long shot. Some people are just genetically blessed or cursed, no amount of healthy living or creams and lotions is going to stave off genetic doom. And some people w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 01:23 PM |
| 10 | Q4all: have you noticed an upswing in men putting effort into their appearance in recent years?No, but men who use moisturizer tend to also be men who look after themselves. Whats wrong with wanting skin that feels comfortable and looks in good condition, as well as possibly ageing more slowly? You sound like my dad 'THAT IS A THING WHICH RELATES TO WANTING TO LOOK NICE SO EVERYONE WILL THINK I'M NOT A REAL MAN AND ALSO GAY. NO'. Wanting to look good and wanting to look like a pretty girl are not the same thing (though the latter is fine as well if that floats your boat, though wouldn't b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 12:17 PM |
| 17 | Q4all: have you noticed an upswing in men putting effort into their appearance in recent years?Expensive moisturiser is a waste of money, but just basic lotion/cream is not. If your skin gets dry at all, moisturiser is a good idea. Reduces any rashes from shaving, dryness from soap/shampoo getting on your skin, reduces spots because your skin isn't trying to overcompensate. Its grooming, not a full face of glittery make-up. Grooming makes you more good looking. Women will want to sleep with you more if you're more good looking. I'd take a weird as fuck mentality to be like "Ah, he is putt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 11:23 AM |
| 9 | Q4all: have you noticed an upswing in men putting effort into their appearance in recent years?I think it's more socially acceptable for men to put effort into their appearance as well, whereas before it was considered 'girly'. Like, my dad will turn his nose up at any sort of 'male grooming product' or the idea of using moisturiser, sees caring about clothes other than the fact they clothe you as weird, and it seems that is common for men of his generation (around 60). But my male peers (around 30) will happily use moisturiser, spend loads of money on their hair, worry about clothes and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/17 09:55 AM |
| 3 | Q4All: For those who want kids in the future, what alternatives would you consider in the case of infertility?Not divorce, wouldn't use a surrogate (I find the idea of paying someone to carry a baby for me bizarre), ditto family member. I'd probably (in order of preference): Attempt IVF, attempt sperm/egg donation, adopt/foster (obviously adopting a baby would be preferable but I like kids in general so adoption/fostering older children would be a sort of alternative arrangement I could get into) and then if it turned out my life was going to be one where I didn't have kids I'd just accept that and try … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/17 07:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Rate 1-10 the following women based on how much you think men will like themTurns out when I'm procrastinating I'm totally down for judging people as something to do........ 1) Probably a 5, quite a 'normal' looking girl. I don't know why everyone is making comments about her being very overweight though, because it's hard to tell from that picture - she looks young and young people sometimes have puppy fat faces without being particularly chubby elsewhere. 2) Whatever site this is from is blocked on my internets. 3) 8 - she looks very done up and quite.... altered... t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/17 11:16 AM |
| 3 | Men hate women that "challenge" them and love women that support themWho appointed you to unilaterally determine the standards lived by? No one person has to do that in order for the other to challenge. For example, my (male) partner 'nags' me about cleaning up all the time. Because he likes things neat, and I hold my hands up to being a bit of a slob who doesn't really care about tidiness. For him, things not being as neat as they'd be if he lived alone, or having to pick a few things up or remind me to pick a few things up is a compromise. For me, cleaning up t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/17 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Q4BP: what are your thoughts on female privilege?I dunno.... I think it depends. I know a lot of middle class white men who generally have more pleasant experiences with the police than a lot women who the police view as 'unseemly'. But then I'm in the UK so 'shoot first ask questions later' doesn't apply so much and while we have police brutality it doesn't seem to be on nearly the same level as the US. And we still seem to have the 'arrested for going outside while a black man' element. I've had some rather unpleasant dealings with the polic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/17 08:57 PM |
| 1 | How common/normalized being a SAHF is?I don't think it's common, and it's somewhat stigmatized, but it shouldn't be. Yep, this. I've known a few over the years. I've come across people being judgemental about it and made a point of trying to address that with them, because I think the 'looking after children as a primary activity is fine for a woman but not for a man' is one of those gender assumptions that is just terrible for everyone. (Men because men should be able to live how they want without being judged for it, women because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/17 07:05 AM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: What do you guys think about the fact that paternity testing is illegal in France and Germany?No I mean the teenage daughter gets pregnant by some random guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 02:40 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What do you guys think about the fact that paternity testing is illegal in France and Germany?Girl gets pregnant at 15 or whatever. Sent away to have baby. Suddenly there is a new little sister in the family. Grandparents raising kids is pretty common. Normally they tell the kid they're not actually it's parents, but.... not always. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 02:04 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: What do you guys think about the fact that paternity testing is illegal in France and Germany?Society will absolutely benefit if every man gains the same level of assurance of his children being his own as women do Would it, though? How do you know that for sure? I mean, at the moment dads are being presented with babies and told 'this is your baby' and most of them act accordingly (providing money, shelter, love and support to that child) - either while together with the mother or as co-parents. If whatever percentage of the time the guy finds out that it isn't his, isn't there a good c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 10:15 AM |
| 6 | Q4ALL: What do you guys think about the fact that paternity testing is illegal in France and Germany?We're all forced to pay for it. And we should do, happily. From an economic standpoint providing a population with free birth control is a massive cost saving strategy. Condoms/Pills/IUDs cost a lot less than welfare for kids parents can't afford/state care for children whose parents can't care for them/the various social fallout that occurs when poorer people are unable to control their own reproduction. Even if you don't care about women's reproductive issues, or children who have to grow up u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 09:34 AM |
| 14 | Q4ALL: What do you guys think about the fact that paternity testing is illegal in France and Germany?I remember when I was in school, my biology teacher told us that they used to do a project where they'd test their blood type and the blood type of their parents. To show genetic traits worked and whatnot. He said they stopped because of increased awareness of bloodborne diseases. But actually also because on numerous occasions students would do the test and be like "Hey.... technically it's impossible that my blood group is what it is!?!?". He said they'd have to palm them off with 'oh sometime… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/17 09:20 AM |
| 3 | "Women are children," and why that's nonsenseI don't like ice cream either! I should obviously hand back my womb-haver card. I mean, I like other things, like cheese. I don't think its my menstrual cycle that makes me want to eat cheese though. I think its the fact that cheese is delicious. Delicious at all times of the month. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/17 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Fit men vs fit womenYeah, you can tell from this post..... I think the truth is your preference is not a rare one, but it isn't the majority. It seems from personal experience most men associate 'softness' with womanliness - which doesn't mean flabby or chubby, it means some muscle definition but generally 'good shape/slim' with a softer layer over the top rather than rock hard abs. I don't think most men are particularly picky - a very toned body will still be seen as a 'good body', and if you have a pretty face a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/17 08:47 AM |
| 11 | "Women are children," and why that's nonsenseThey literally cry and eat ice cream for a week out of every month. Its kind of ironic to tell someone they lack experience with women and then giving the TV trope period signifier as if it were a universal truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/17 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Who's the most feminine woman on PPD?Age: 31 Fem Score - 68 BSRI - 46.667 out of 100 masculine points, 67.5 out of 100 feminine points, and 55 out of 100 androgynous (neutral) points. Myers-Briggs - INFP I think I'm feminine in terms of being nurturing, caring and 'sweet'. That has helped my love life in that those are qualities people tend to like, and men are people. I don't think I'd have an easier time necessarily.... maybe if I was more forceful I'd have got what I wanted more. Most feminine, I'd say the nurturing/caring/givin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/17 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Lack of Social Skills in Women vs MenYeah, I work with a few 'socially incapable' teenage girls, with ASD and other such socially impairing disorders. They're totally socially incapable in that they can't hold 'normal' conversations with people or have 'normal' relationships. But that isn't always because they're too busy talking about comics and nervously pushing their glasses up their nose, as some people on here assume is the be all and end all of 'socially incapable'. Actually often they're talking loudly and 'seem confident', … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/17 08:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Scientific Surveys are just organized collections of anecdotes, so anecdotes are a valid piece of evidence.Yeah you can. You use a survey developed by someone who isn't sure what the survey is testing. For example a study to test use of a drug and depressive ideation. You might use a non survey test (such as an emotional stroop test which is measured by timed responses) and a self report measure of low mood (so a survey I suppose). But the survey you use will be one developed to measure mood specifically (and tested as simply a measure of mood), not one developed by the person trying to prove this or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 07:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Scientific Surveys are just organized collections of anecdotes, so anecdotes are a valid piece of evidence.But one can't eliminate this bias in scientific surveys or anecdotes Well yeah, you can. Its called a double blind experiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/17 10:41 AM |
| 5 | Q4RedPill: A common red pill idea is that "women are children." In what ways are they like children? Why is this childishness specific to women?As I said in the earlier post, I spend my life around teenagers. Older teenagers may be adults in the strictest sense. They're not little kids and shouldn't be treated as such. Some of them are capable of great maturity and wisdom. But adults in the sense that people over the age of 25 are adults? God, no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/17 02:59 PM |
| 3 | Q4RedPill: A common red pill idea is that "women are children." In what ways are they like children? Why is this childishness specific to women?Single mothers use their children as tools to extract welfare You say this as if men don't absolutely take part in the decisions to have children for welfare money. 'No man would do anything as cynical as persuading a woman to have children with him and then insisting she gives him the resulting welfare money to drink'. Yes. They would. And do. A lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/17 12:48 PM |
| 9 | Q4RedPill: A common red pill idea is that "women are children." In what ways are they like children? Why is this childishness specific to women?I really do wonder about people who say 'Oh yeah, everyone knows that women stop maturing at like 15'. I'm a 31 year old woman. I work with teenage girls and obviously interact on a daily basis with adult women. The idea that somehow there is no real appreciable difference between those groups other than a few outliers makes me wonder what planet people are living on. The reason there aren't a ream of studies exploring this idea is that it's a fucking stupid one and no one would fund that shit. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/17 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Scarcity of hot males and other questions.Kind of just repeating what others have said in various places but: 1) Because attractiveness is relative. Like how facial symmetry is attractive (because its a signifier of health). Because you're looking for the most symmetrical of faces, you can miss the fact we all have basically symmetrical faces (generally your eyes are in around about the same position and your nose is roughly in the middle and your lips are unlikely to be really thin on one side and really fat on the other). Its a matter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/17 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Be YourselfI always took it to mean that you should present who you are rather than attempting to be the person you think someone else will like - primarily because people can tell you're being fake and you'll never be able to pull it off as well as a person who is actually 'like that'. It doesn't mean not working on being 'the best version of yourself' though. Like if you're shy, it's finding the confidence to converse with people as a shy person rather than pretending you're a naturally extroverted perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/17 03:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4all: Why should I support gender equality. What's in it for me?Also, what ends up happening is that, since portions of men are pushed out of a a traditionally "male" world because of women, that means more men go into fields that are traditionally "female", and both men and women look down on that, like he's a weak man for doing it. Yes, because the notion has always been that women's work (nursing, teaching younger children, secretarial work) has been 'lesser' than men's work (labouring, mechanics, etc.) - because sexism dictates women are lesser. The hope… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/17 07:56 AM |
| 1 | Q4PP Questions from someone with no dating experience.At what age was your first date, and how was it? 19 or 20 I think? Had only kissed a guy twice previously. We went to a bar for a few drinks (drinking age in the UK is 18). Was pretty fun, he was a nice enough guy and fun to talk to. In the end he ghosted me, I think because I didn't put out after meeting a couple of times. A bit disappointing at the time but I enjoyed the overall experience. At what age do you consider it odd when a person has never dated, either failed to get a date, or has no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/17 07:08 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men perceive the loss of their own privilege as a sign that women have now 'out-privileged' them.men are far more likely to commit suicide than women yet this is never spoken of or research funded to find out why Except for when it is absolutely spoken about and a widely known phenomenon. If you're talking UK, I've seen CALM posters on bus stops reaching out to men. There is an article about once a fortnight it seems on the BBC website about how men don't access mental health charities. There has indeed been research into gender disparity in engagement with services and outcomes. And that r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/17 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Drinking / Partying Culture in America vs BritainI'm from Manchester and I think it depends what you mean by 'drinking constantly'. Its normal to go out to the pub a couple of times a week and have a few with colleagues/friends, but I think times have changed in that the majority of people won't drink that much and don't drink every night. The all the men in the boozer every evening Manc stereotype is dying out. Its also dependent on your line of work. People in journalism and media, for example, seem to basically re-route their office to the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Drinking / Partying Culture in America vs BritainI think it depends on your social group, but I do think that more than america (never lived there so hard to compare, I'm basically going on media and the internet), going out and getting drunk (to varying degrees) is less a 'party girl' thing and more an 'everyone' thing. Definitely it seems drinking is more an integral part of social and leisure experiences than it is in the US. If you're meeting people, you meet in a pub/bar and you drink alcohol - it's just what you do, in all walks of life … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/17 12:35 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Most guys who are in the friendzone are happy to be there.What advantage does a male friend have over a female friend you don't have sex with? Why not just do away with friends altogether and do everything on your own? The answer to your question is that friendship tends to be something built on aspects of that individual meaning you enjoy time with them (kindness, sense of humour, shared interests/hobbies). Something that grows from your experiences of an individual rather than something you can ascertain before knowing the individual (based upon thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/17 08:22 AM |
| 4 | Q4 WOMEN attracted to men taller than them...do you mean slightly taller or do you mean extremely taller?Also 5'10. Never really got made fun of because of my height, but I was always sort of self conscious about it and definitely felt like guys were put off by it. I think it's one thing in attracting guys if you're tall and also look like Cindy Crawford or Elle MacPherson - actually you still have the intimidation factor in that case amplified by beauty. But I think if you're not hyper feminine looking and very slim/slender build, being tall can make guys see you as less feminine and therefore dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 09:15 PM |
| 3 | By your own estimates, what percentage of single moms are in that position because of their own bad decision making?To make your friend feel better - I know two couples where they got pregnant by mistake, she decided to keep it, he ran for the hills 'I'M NOT READY ARRRRRRRRRRGH!!!' and then came back for the late pregnancy/birth and decided to stay. Both now living together/married and seem very happy. I mean, you're an idiot if you get pregnant because you assume that is going to happen - I've also met enough people with deadbeat dads who 'allowed' their creation and then couldn't be bothered - but it seems … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 06:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If a woman is not attracted to you, then she will mention a boyfriend.even if I didn't show it Maybe you did show it without realising. You can often tell when someone has a crush on you - there are tells in the way they interact with you, compared to the way they interact with others. I've been in this exact same situation on the other side. I could tell the guy was into me, we weren't in a situation where generally people are private about their personal lives and 90% of the day its not OK to talk about whether you are in a relationship, and a few times I tried … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/16 03:42 PM |
| 2 | If not TRP/PUA then whatI was thinking about this recently because a knew friend (a guy quite a lot younger than me) was asking for advice. What is it that I struggle to put my finger on that missing factor whenever I see posts like these. One of the things I think comes across, and excuse me if this sounds flippant/patronising because I don't intend it to - It always seems like these guys take all this and often themselves so seriously. Look, I know its hard and contradictory because it seems like "this is the thing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 09:12 PM |
| 3 | The World Health Organization declares being an incel is a disability.Social issues are an entirely different beast than medical issues. Surely this is a good example of when they aren't, though. A lesbian couple, a heterosexual woman with no partner, and a straight couple who haven't been able to conceive all need medical assistance in procreating (turkey baster and a male friend with a jam jar not cutting it). The issue previously has been that certain nations have dictated that only 'medical necessity' requiring this medical intervention can be defined in terms… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/16 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Can Facts be sexist?Great post. The 'fact' that men have a greater standard deviation in IQ (I put fact in quotations because as other posters here have pointed out, not all IQ testing systems find this) is one thing. But on here it, and other similar 'facts' (again in quotations because a lot of the supposed facts posted on here are not facts in any sense), are used to justify assumptions, and then the people doing it refuse to accept that they are in fact doing this. If someone who wants to think women are lesser… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/16 03:34 AM |
| 2 | College girl hooks up with dozens of athletes, rates each of them on looks and penis size, and publishes her findings as an academic thesis.She should be ashamed of herself for publishing this amount of shit She didn't publish it, its not an actual paper. It was a joke she sent to a few friends, one of them then spread it and it went viral at the university. I'm not saying she was right to start sending around documents with personal details about sexual partners to anyone at all, but it seems clear it was only intended for a handful of people. Can we all stop pretending like this was an actual attempt at an academic paper that was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 02:33 PM |
| 14 | Why are women in their 30s more sexually adventurous?Friends say that they are more comfortable in their own skin and more experienced. I'm not sure about that -- how long does it really take a person to become competent at a basic human function. I am a 31 year old woman. Your friends are right. 1) Experience isn't that simple because there is more to sex than 'how to fit penis in vagina'. A person who has had more sexual experiences, likely with multiple men who will have their own likes and kinks, so she is likely to have more of a repetoir of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 11:29 AM |
| 12 | College girl hooks up with dozens of athletes, rates each of them on looks and penis size, and publishes her findings as an academic thesis.The article says that the student claims she only intended it to be shared with three close friends. So it seems like it may have been a joke between friends that got out of control - really she should have thought ahead as to if you put things and writing and share them, they have a tendency to gather steam. Now she is rightfully sorry to those involved because she let their names go around in that kind of manner and she has unintentionally shared private information they didn't consent to, whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/16 08:55 AM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenBut you seem to be conflating intuition with emotion, when that absolutely isn't the definition either. Obviously there are actually quite a few definitions of intuition, with the scientific (psychological) understanding and then the everyday understanding being quite different. Intuition is simply the process of making deductions based on past experience that don't involve conscious awareness of all factors (as opposed to decision making involving only conscious processes). So for example if I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 09:03 AM |
| 1 | Moral Command in men VS Moral Intuition in womenGood post - I was thinking of writing something but you've covered a lot of my points. Part of the problem I think here - and u/Drenzard I absolutely think that your post is a hell of a lot more worthy of actual debate than the vast majority of the 'brain science' shit that gets posted on this subreddit, so thanks - is that we're still somewhat stuffing limited knowledge from research into 'folk psych' understandings (feelz vs reelz) rather than properly breaking down the huge number of ways in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/16 08:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Sexual Objectification is a beneficial to all women except unattractive women.You seem to be arguing that only attractive women are objectified, and that attractive women are objectified consistently. As a maybe somewhat attractive but probably not by everyone's standards woman (I hate how we're expected to quantify these things as if anyone can view themselves and their lives objectively... I'm not a Victoria's Secret model but also some people have demonstrated themselves to be sexually attracted to me, but then those are some pretty wide goal posts), I've been both obj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/16 09:07 PM |
| 6 | Q4ALL - Do the women you know into Romance/Fan-Fiction also go to bars/clubs??To be fair with the dressing up a lot of it is just that - dressing up. I know when I used to go out to clubs it wasn't to meet guys or get numbers or have sex (though when I was single I was up for that as well), it was to have fun with my friends, drink, dance and let off steam. I remember when I was 19 I had a (guy) friend who used to insist people only went to clubs to pick up for sex etc. and couldn't comprehend any different. My mind was blown because I couldn't understand how he simply co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 06:58 PM |
| 3 | If woman are just as capable as men (which they really aren't), why do they need gender quotas in businesses and universities, laws that benefit women,more government spending, Duluth model, and last but not least, government programs.I'll never know if I've achieved and earned something or if it's just been given to me because they had to fill a quota. I don't think anyone truly achieves or earns anything in a vacuum. If you get picked over a man with the same degree and experience because you're a woman, you still have to have the same degree and experience as the man, and you still have to show up and actually do the job every morning. If a man is accepted over you because the CEO wants a nice young fella who reminds him o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/16 06:49 PM |
| 3 | If woman are just as capable as men (which they really aren't), why do they need gender quotas in businesses and universities, laws that benefit women,more government spending, Duluth model, and last but not least, government programs.Also, it is not a blimp, of course the women worked somewhat, but I was referring to back back then when women couldn't work other than take care of kids and do housework. Yeah this... never happened. Women always worked. Women worked on farms for as long as there have been farms. Women worked as maids and cooks. Women worked grinding grains and making cloth. Women worked maintaining and operating the mills and factories of the industrial revolution. Women built the first computers. If you're wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/16 06:33 PM |
| 9 | If woman are just as capable as men (which they really aren't), why do they need gender quotas in businesses and universities, laws that benefit women,more government spending, Duluth model, and last but not least, government programs.The thing is, in terms of logic, you're not making a great argument or backing it up. The onus is on you to give evidence and rationale for your claim, but it isn't even clear what your argument is. The design behind things like hiring quotas is the theory that the reason there are fewer women in certain positions/roles/etc. is a mix of cultural and social factors. This can be supported by evidence that people tend to hire people who are like themselves to mentor into positions they are in (not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/16 09:16 AM |
| 2 | Q4Feminists: Should women be allowed to drink, do drugs while pregnant?I think the issue was how 'if you think you might be pregnant' actually means 'all the fucking time if you are having sex'. I mean, I use one of the most reliable forms of contraception (IUS). Still though when you get it put in, you get a talk on what to do if you get pregnant with it - because it's relatively rare, but it happens. Still if I haven't had a period in a while (and a lot of women don't get periods at all with these things) or I feel nausea/lightheadedness etc. I freak out. Especia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/16 08:47 AM |
| 1 | What is behind the recent push to rebrand Marilyn Monroe as plus sized?Yes, I can subtract 4 from 6. My sources (most referred to version I could find from various google sources) say she was 1.66m, which is 5'4. Some said 5'5. I didn't see any that said 5'6. This BBC article, from this year, puts the average height in the UK for a woman at 5'5. US sources seem to vary but be around 5'4. Henceforth my statement that she was 'average or just below for the modern day'. Obviously it is reliant on multiple differing sources, since Marilyn Monroe isn't here to measure a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/16 03:32 PM |
| 1 | What is behind the recent push to rebrand Marilyn Monroe as plus sized?No, she wasn't. She was around the average for today, maybe a bit shorter depending on where you are (average for US, short for UK). I wasn't talking about her as an individual anyway (I made another post on that), I meant in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/16 12:54 PM |
| 2 | If a man cares too much about his height, he is insecure. But if a woman cares too much about height, she is not insecure. She just has "preferences". This is a double standard.I've definitely been made to feel insecure about my height. Mainly because of 'men will fuck anything' notions. I've literally had guys who are like "we should fuck, but you shouldn't stand next to me especially in heels, because it looks wrong that you're the same height/just under/taller'. I generally just 'noped out' over them for that, but especially when I was younger it did on a subconscious level make me feel less like an attractive feminine person that guys would want to 'be with' rather… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/16 08:48 AM |
| 2 | What is behind the recent push to rebrand Marilyn Monroe as plus sized?This 'meme' started in the 90s, back when heroin chic was all the rage, not in the modern day when the Kardashian ass is in. Which is why it seems weird to the kids of today. The pictures of her on the beach DO seem jarring compared to fashion models and 'the look' of the 90s, which is what this originally came out of. Also equating Marilyn Monroe with the HAES movement and 'embrace natural curves' is funny, and not because she was actually smaller than a lot of people make her out to be. Its be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/16 08:27 AM |
| 2 | What is behind the recent push to rebrand Marilyn Monroe as plus sized?I think definitely an increase in the proportion of overweight and obese people has contributed to the shift in clothes sizes, you've got to remember that people are simply bigger now than they were in the past due to positive changes in nutrition as well. The average height (and respective measurements like shoulder width, etc) of people in western areas (particularly urban areas) has shifted up dramatically in the last 60-100 years. Mainly because of our increased knowledge about nutrition and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/16 07:49 AM |
| 2 | How do you imagine the average bluepill man or woman that's on this sub?I don't think its exactly what you're referring to, but what you're saying reminds me of a term we use in the UK, "champagne socialist". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 10:33 AM |
| 2 | Do women (& people) want solutions to their problems, but just not cold, rushed, 'captain obvious' solutions?I'd make a captain obvious solution just so that I don't sound like I don't care. I think I do this sometimes. Because it seems like the only other option is to do a cheesy therapist aping 'Mmmm. Hmmm. Mmmm. And how did that make you feel?'. But you need some way to show that you care enough to be thinking about it without butting in. I had a work situation recently where a (young) person was really upset, over a complicated issue that I was in on but they didn't know that, and obviously just ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/16 08:00 AM |
| 2 | Do women (& people) want solutions to their problems, but just not cold, rushed, 'captain obvious' solutions?I was just thinking about this the other day, in terms of my relationship, and I think we both do this. I think most people do it depending on which side of the issue they're on. Which makes sense if you consider the experience from both perspectives. Your loved one has a problem, which is causing them distress. Your automatic reaction is one of 'someone I care about is suffering, I want to solve the problem and remove whatever it is that is causing the suffering'. The human inclination when you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/16 07:45 AM |
| 7 | Low-SMV women have an inflated sense of their SMV, and just because some low-SMV women manage to get laid by Chad doesn't mean they're in Chad's league. It doesn't change the overall dynamics of the SMP and 80/20.Movies, advertisements, models, Victoria's Secret commercials. All of those subtly tell us normal, non-airbrushed women that we are not good enough. It's why you have women fad dieting, wearing waist trainers, and constantly criticizing their bodies. Absolutely. Its bizarre on here that the dramatic correlation between the omnipresence of airbrushed perfect tv/movie/advert/social media celeb and extreme insecurity of young women is entirely ignored. Young women (tween and teen up to mid 20s) for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/16 01:32 PM |
| 1 | You find out one of your female friends hooked up with a guy she met at a club. Would you tell her husband/boyfriend about it?No, probably not. Because as others are saying - I don't think getting involved in other people's shit against their wishes is generally a good idea. I don't think we'd be friends anymore though. I wouldn't like being around someone where I know they're that callous to the person they're supposed to care most about, or being around their partner knowing that I had important and hurtful information about their relationship they didn't have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/16 09:41 AM |
| 7 | ElevatorGate, DongleGate and ShirtGate Were About Unattractive Men Trying to Act Like Attractive Men, or Simply As "Normal", "Average" MenI 100% agree about Matt Taylor. He is a good looking guy who comes across as interesting and expressive. As much as I can know as someone who knows basically nothing else about the guy, other than that he is a scientist who worked on the Rosetta mission (so 'hey I work with real life space missions just like in the movies' bonus), I'd reckon him as someone who doesn't have a problem finding girls. As much as some guys like to bitterly envy attractive people to levels of 'good looking shirtless p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/16 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Do RPers still believe evolutionary psychology explanations for gender differences?You see, this is kind of where people who disagree will be accused of being 'nature = 0%'. You talk about the bulk of government policies - have you ever seen a government policy state that 'we as the government don't believe genetics has any influence of psychological traits', or have you just seen policies policies that (for example) encourage women into STEM with an underlying philosophy that there is likely a social reason for their being less women in STEM? Because recognition of a possible… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/16 10:54 AM |
| 2 | Do RPers still believe evolutionary psychology explanations for gender differences?I've never actually encountered one. In real life or online board/forum/etc. And I've been to a lot of the 'crazed feminist indoctrination' type places. Which is why I seriously wonder if all these supposed 'blank slate, denial of science' people are actually saying "Look, I don't think you can say women are genetically predisposed to be a certain way when there is no evidence it isn't environmental, but there is evidence not all men/women are like that...", and traditionalists/RPers/anti-femini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/16 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Do RPers still believe evolutionary psychology explanations for gender differences?True Blank Slate-rs, who think that genetic make-up has absolutely no influence on our psychological development, are really fucking few and far between. Mainstream feminist/left leaning liberal types (because that is I suspect who is being talked about here) pay no attention to that shit. Edit:There are people who might believe that politically and ethically it is right to treat people as essentially 'blank slates' rather than judging based on genetic groupings are a thing, but they're not 'tru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/16 08:06 AM |
| 9 | "She looked so innocent!" When her appearance does not match her sexual history.I've been called a slut pretty much since I was 11 (when I hadn't even kissed a boy) I work with kids of around this age, and the amount the girls get called (mainly from other girls, but sometimes from the boys) 'sluts' and 'slags' is heartbreaking. It seems that the things that make you a slut include: Talking to two or more boys during any given period of time. Talking to one boy. Being an earlier developer. Being pretty. Not being pretty. A boy liking you, even if you don't like him back. Ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/16 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Why didn't someone tell us women that men are like this?Women managed to filter the shitty messages out and see the real world Not all of us do. The problem is that on here so many guys seem to blame having fallen for the 'NiceGuyTM' trap on 'go through story, have emotional development, gifted hot girlfriend for this' movies and the like, but then when women have done the same its because 'women feel entitled because its their nature and the world hands them everything on a plate'. I know women who have had trouble finding a partner/have been with s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/16 06:57 AM |
| -1 | Do RPers still believe evolutionary psychology explanations for gender differences?"nature=0%, nurture=100%" As said by basically no one in the last 50 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/16 06:26 AM |
| 2 | Whether overdiagnosed or not, ADD is realI have ADHD and I work with kids with ADHD. You can go into the philosophy of disorder vs. spectrum of 'normality', debate whether certain lifestyles and types of parenting exacerbate people who have a predisposition. But certain people definitely have the cluster of symptoms that correlate to ADHD. Sometimes with these kids who are being disruptive, you can just tell that no amount of disciplining is going to make them sit and engage properly with their work for the next half and hour - its lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/16 12:20 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: Why does "no fap" get a lot of heat and flak from both BPers and RPers?This. A thousand times this. I think where people are getting confused is that people are swinging between crazy "masturbation drains your energies, not masturbating will make you super productive" stuff and sex/porn addictions. If you are spending a serious portion of every day looking at porn, or you are unable to form healthy relationships with the opposite sex because you can only associate sexual release with porn, then maybe you've got a problem. But the vast majority of people who masturb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/16 08:46 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who envy/idolise “players” are like starving people who envy gluttonsSo like..... Why is a desire for validation bad? Because it leads to spending your life chasing something to feed your ego, rather than sitting back and enjoying your experiences on this planet? If someone just decided that actually they want to spend the majority of their time and energy chasing validation, despite the fact they might well never be satisfied by it, then obviously that is their choice. I just know that those I've encountered in life who are most ego-centric and validation driven… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/16 09:02 AM |
| 3 | Do you feel that rejecting a man puts you in danger?I wouldn't say I've ever felt 'afraid for my life' in those situation, but definitely fearful and sometimes shaken. People of all sexes and genders know that certain people really don't take well to the idea that they are being 'disrespected', and will often be paranoid about people being disrespectful to them. Because of insecurity, or past trauma, or the way they were raised, or whatever. Most guys can relate to the experience of the maniac who thinks they 'looked at him funny' and flew off th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/16 09:59 AM |
| 3 | Would you rather be hot and stupid or smart and unattractive?Probably smart and ugly. Negotiating the world must be hard if you have trouble understanding things, even if you have the 'hot people get favours' bias it would be hard to be confused all the time. The Big Bang Theory comparison is funny though. Partly because the 'hot but dumb' guy Penny goes out with isn't particularly hot (big and muscly yeah but not a show stopper) and is written as 'comically dumb' in such a way as to make him not someone to be seen as attractive, partly because the nerd g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/16 09:09 AM |
| 3 | Would you rather have a twin who is more intelligent than you, or hotter than you?This is just making me glad I don't have a twin. But based on my relationship with my opposite sex sibling (we have pretty much entirely opposite strengths and weaknesses which I think is an ideal for siblings because you're never in direct competition), I'd say "The real problem would come if it was both". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/16 08:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Demographic Survey1) 30 2) White (Irish, Scottish and English heritage) 3) Northern England (urban) 4) Engaged 5) My parents are liberal christians (originally catholic and anglican but they shopped around a bit and eventually settled on methodism). I am not religious - agnostic atheist is probably the best way to describe it, but I was never really 'a believer' and religion was never something that was forced on me. 6) Middle class maybe upper middle class? (Parents born working class but became professionals an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/16 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Question for BP Women: Who in here actually has blue hair?A few days ago I was driving and I have to admit I saw a larger woman with bright blue hair and I thought of this place and was amused - because that is literally the only person I've ever seen that fits the stereotype here, despite the fact they're made out to be taking over the world. And also that who the fuck knows what this woman's life and opinions are like, maybe she just likes blue. To be perfectly honest the most stringently feminist women I know (talk about it more, activism, reject th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/16 07:54 AM |
| 6 | Do you want to be "challenged" in a relationship?I agree with what most of the BP people are saying, but I also think a good way to look at it is to think of it as like collaborating on a project at work: Let's say you're working with a colleague on the project, and you're discussing tactics and how to proceed, and this person just rubbishes every idea you have saying that the project is going to be done their way. Most people would get pretty pissed off by this - you really care about this project, and you have some good ideas, and while you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 08:09 AM |
| 6 | How much does penis size correlate with SMV?I think men seriously over-estimate the amount that women care about penis size. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are women out there for whom size and shape of the dick is super important, but most women don't really give a shit as long as he does stuff with it that feels nice. Penises are only really exciting because if you're seeing one it means you're probably about to have sex with it, not as a thing in themselves. To be honest, guys generally seem obsessed with dicks. They draw them all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/16 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: RP's Need for OtheringGrow babby? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 10:41 AM |
| 3 | Not All Incels Are Like ThatI think I missed the part in Principia Mathematica about how bitches only want to fuck Chads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 09:29 AM |
| 9 | Why do men belittle ‘stereotypically female’ hobbies and traits while still saying they want ‘traditionally feminine’ women?What do you mean 'only have a Nintendo?'. To be honest, someone who - for example - collects and is passionate about retro Nintendo games is more of 'a gamer' than someone who occasionally plays Call of Duty because they like drinking beer and shouting at 14 year olds (which seems to be most of the 'gamers' I've met). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 11:00 AM |
| 0 | Why do men belittle ‘stereotypically female’ hobbies and traits while still saying they want ‘traditionally feminine’ women?What do you highly value? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 10:52 AM |
| 2 | Is being a male virgin really such a weird, strange thing? {Male, 26}For real. I was a virgin until my mid 20s, and a lot of people I know aren't aware of that. I was sort of ashamed, though at the same time not really ashamed (accepted that was just the way my life was). When things to do with partner count or sex came up I'd generally act coy as if I was just a very private person so I didn't have to outright lie, but definitely give the impression I wasn't a virgin. I wanted to fit in and not be seen as the prissy naive girl, basically, because that wasn't my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 09:26 AM |
| 2 | All Male High School opens in Washington D.C.As other people have said, in the UK single sex schools (both private and state) are common (though not the norm). My understanding is that statistically, when all else is the same, girls tend to do better in single sex schools and boys tend to around the same as they do in co-ed. I've actually heard arguments that for this reason single sex education is actually sexist against boys. I went to an all girls school from 4 until 18. I actually didn't have an option - due to where I lived and school… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/16 09:01 AM |
| 7 | Why I'm not a red pill womanOk, I mean... obviously we have different ideologies and lifestyles. Fair enough. I don't really care if people want to be very feminine in their presentation and talk about baking and whatnot. I have no issue with that side of RPW. It's also that 'the ideology' is bigger than just what to do in an argument. It's how to make your everyday life more pleasurable for yourself, so that you can turn that positive energy to everyone around you really, but specifically your SO. This is my problem. Want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 11:56 AM |
| 8 | Why I'm not a red pill womanFocusing on improving yourself over him, respecting your man for the person he is, being grateful, showing that you love him, and being mindful of your role in the issues to name the big ones. . The captain/fm dynamic we talk about on RPWi is usually specifically coming from a place where the woman has been dominating the relationship and cause unhappiness in his life and/or her own. This is kind of it for me. Basically, people who are good at relationships already do those things that OP stated… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:33 AM |
| 2 | Members of the opposite sex other people find hot which you don'tI know he was playing by far the best the time I saw them play. Though I also have to admit that I haven't really cared about or followed football in about 14 years, so... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Members of the opposite sex other people find hot which you don'tThe thing is though, if you're in to guys who have the social status, accomplishments and wealth of a Man U player, you have multiple Man U players to choose from. So it's not so much that those things can't make (some) people find that person more attractive, its just you know.... why that one? All that said, he is really fucking good at what he does. I remember watching him play at Old Trafford back when he was the new young star, and even when you couldn't make out which player was which you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Members of the opposite sex other people find hot which you don'tREALLY? I've lived in both Manchester and Liverpool during the 'era of Rooney' (so where he is probably the most celebrated) and I've never heard a single girl or woman express even the vaguest hint of interest in him. He is undeniably very talented, and sometimes that alone is enough to make someone hot. But he isn't exactly a looker, unless your type is 'potato with hair implants'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 05:06 PM |
| 5 | If women are underrepresented in STEM how can they be equally represented while simultaneously over represented in publishing, nursing, humanities, and print media?equal representation among janitors Yes, because women never work as cleaners. That is something you never see. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 05:49 PM |
| 3 | If women are underrepresented in STEM how can they be equally represented while simultaneously over represented in publishing, nursing, humanities, and print media?There are a lot of plusses for encouraging men into nursing, from a feminist perspective. Things that a 'womanly' or 'feminine' are often seen as lesser, or at least as things which mysteriously flow from 'sweet good women' like some kind of natural force rather than being anything to do with skill, intelligence or effort. There is a whole heap of that in nursing - the idea that it is essentially being either a sweet charming young woman holding the injured brave man's hand or a motherly matron.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 05:45 PM |
| 3 | "Think Again: Men and Women Share Cognitive Skills"Oh god the memories. The earliest I ever started properly writing up a project was 4 days before the deadline. Which would have been fine if it wasn't a 20,000 word dissertation. Basically for me exams were always a way to get a good mark - not to do well, but to even out my incredibly lacking coursework marks. The fact I have a degree at all is pretty shocking, looking back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/16 05:17 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: Why do you think people in STEM and tech are so strongly represented in your numbers?But it's not logical/critical/analytical thinking. In my experience of academics (my partner is one and through that spend a lot of time socialising with them) it's the ones in things like philosophy and history who tend to be the most noticeably analytical. Like, a STEM person will give you a logical argument, but it's the philosopher who will want to sit there for two hours afterwards and discuss every fucking possible fallacy or assumption in that argument with them until they're screaming 'C… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/16 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Non-Americans: from what you've gathered, how is dating, marriage and divorce different in your country, compared to America?Maybe. I mean, I'd actually have said in the UK we don't really do the formal dating thing that much anyway. But I suppose, what does 'formal' date mean? Does it have to be dinner? I think it's more individual differences. Like, I can't imagine wanting to date more than one person at once (as in, from second date onwards) but I know people (men and women) who quite commonly will have 'things possibly developing' with a couple of people at once. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/16 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Non-Americans: from what you've gathered, how is dating, marriage and divorce different in your country, compared to America?From the example you gave that sounds like going from FWB to a relationship. I'd say this is a different kettle of fish. FWB starts off as just having casual sex, and in your case you developed feels later. Happens all the time. But if you start off by asking someone out on a date and you continue dating, exclusivity is assumed in that situation. I wouldn't say that a FWB situation. A lot of people have sex before being 'exclusive', doesn't mean they're FWB. And I don't think exclusivity is assu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/16 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Non-Americans: from what you've gathered, how is dating, marriage and divorce different in your country, compared to America?Yes and no. It normally isn't spoken about in those terms. In terms of casual sex - not really, other from a certain skew due to people of different backgrounds often being in different social spaces (bars, clubs, etc.). In terms of dating and relationships? Quite often. If you have say a group of middle class friends, and one of them starts dating someone from a very working class background, they probably won't be assimilated into the group as much as another middle class person would be. It w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/16 08:15 AM |
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