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15

There's a bit of nervous excitement between us. She says "This just doesn't happen! You don't meet someone sober on the streets, go on a date, and then figure out details of going home with them!" After the approach, this is the important part. It's calibration. You accurately read what she wanted and/or led her to understand what you wanted in a fairly natural, exciting way. Nice work.
/r/seduction12/05/14 12:47 PM
18

This is why so many "hot" women don't seem to understand why they can't keep a guy
/r/seduction15/02/14 07:09 PM
10

just want make a note WALL then peace
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:35 AM
39

So much to learn. I'm 33 and the past few years has seen the best of my dating life. I can generate FAR more attraction now than when I was in my teens and twenties. And they definitely weren't creepy, since you hung out with them all night and they both managed to fuck your date.
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:30 AM
4

Fucked up from the time you met the two guys. It's cool to be friendly and all, but if you're on a date then you keep it as a date, not a group hangout time.
/r/seduction05/02/14 05:21 AM
5

but she wasn't too receptive to kino Not everyone is. Kino is a good guide, but don't stick to it like a rule. Calibration over everything, be aware of how she feels and adjust. go on different sorts of dates with girls who just broke up with SOs or are dealing with emotional turmoil of some sort? I just go out to have fun, whether they had just broken up with someone or not. Everyone "grieves" the end of a relationship differently and I'm not going to make assumptions about how she's dealing wi…
/r/seduction05/02/14 04:50 AM
1

since I have a huge interest in fashion, it tends to be conversations around that. Well, that's probably the biggest thing. You can go all fashion geek with a chick and that isn't very "manly". Unfortunately, it is one of your interests, so there isn't much to do about that other than trying not talk about fashion quite so much. I use my hands quite a lot when I talk Not an issue. IMO, get more flirty. A little more sexually aggressive. Show that you are attracted to women and want to be more th…
/r/seduction21/01/14 02:08 AM
19

I like this one
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:07 AM
14

No we don't!
/r/seduction15/01/14 03:05 AM
1

Say something witty and fun, have your number already written out, give it to her, and get out of there. Build attraction fast and then quit. Don't bother people at work, it makes her uncomfortable and can cost her a job.
/r/seduction14/01/14 05:26 AM
1

I'm don't behave differently when I'm single/relationship Not true. You do, even if you don't realize it. Subtle things. See lacks_tact on that. Also it's "safe" for women to talk to a guy who's taken, so they do, and then they open up more, and then they start to get interested... Also women want what other women want. Also it says something about you to be in a committed relationship. It increases your value.
/r/seduction08/01/14 03:18 PM
3

Calibration. It depends on the girl. I'm always honest. It doesn't mean that I'll spill my guts about what I'm thinking or why I act certain ways, but I won't make up something if asked about it either. How far I get into that depends on how the conversation flows.
/r/seduction06/01/14 09:33 PM
3

It also matters where you're meeting the girls, both social setting and area. Right now I live in a major metropolitan center with several college areas, and I'd think that a 20 year old looking for a serious LTR would be unusual. Not unheard of, of course, but at 20 most people are just getting used to the idea of being adults -- out from under their parents, probably not living on their own without help, young enough to make plenty of bad decisions but old enough to start being responsible, st…
/r/seduction02/01/14 07:41 PM
1

Try and figure out what your actual social status is. Do you seem like a player, or have you been labeled as a player? If you're dating someone where you see potential for a relationship, how long do you wait before having the "exclusive" talk? How old are you? Younger girls aren't as likely to want a relationship.
/r/seduction02/01/14 05:07 PM
1

I'm asking this chick out over and over. She rejects me every time... By the looks of it; she is desperate. By the looks of it, so are you. Back off. Give her the space she wants. Keep it friendly with this one, while you go off and meet people that want to date.
/r/seduction31/12/13 08:03 PM
1

Yes. I'll stutter and mix my words a bit when I get excited. And one of my best early college friends had a heavy stutter but could pull like crazy.
/r/seduction30/12/13 07:58 PM
2

Depending on where you were when you started, one month (think, 4 weekends) is probably not long enough to effect the right change in your mindset, or inner frame. You may have failed to hit the goal that you set for yourself, but that goal was also unrealistic. Side-note on that: Setting that goal also made yourself very outcome dependent, not independent. Meet people and have fun first, dates (and more) will fall into place after that. If you go with the goal of "must date at least one of {the…
/r/seduction12/12/13 04:35 PM
1

Beware the liars. It's up to you if you want to give her one more chance, but if she flakes on that then just forget her.
/r/seduction11/12/13 07:12 PM
2

I've spent a good amount of time just screwing around. Right now I want (and have) a solid relationship. Longer-er term is using parts of the game to keep that relationship flowing and exciting.
/r/seduction02/12/13 10:07 PM
3

Nothing projects confidence and security quite like "Are you looking to bang other dudes?" If you want a relationship then bring up being exclusive on the 3rd or 4th date. If you don't want a relationship then don't bring it up at all. All advice given is under the context of a normal dating scene. Adjust any advice to fit your unique condition(s). Consult your physician if symptoms persist for more than 24 hours.
/r/seduction01/12/13 08:07 PM
11

"That's a poor technique. Get me a drink and I'll explain how to do it right." or "Don't start something you aren't willing to finish."
/r/seduction26/11/13 08:13 PM
3

Good job?
/r/seduction24/11/13 12:41 AM
6

"nice" comes in to play more with relationships than pickup. If you're just taking a girl home, then being nice enough is just a matter of not being an obvious asshole. In a relationship, if a girl wants to have a nice guy, then your personality has to match up much more with that and stand a test of time and consistency.
/r/seduction19/11/13 07:07 PM
2

The most important things: Relax, have fun, and pay attention to her reactions.
/r/seduction18/11/13 07:56 PM
1

I think it's poor wording. It's not that they're all the same, but that it is practically impossible for there to be "the one". Even if there was some girl that you thought was perfect in every way, chances are another one is out there like her somewhere. So don't get hung up on someone that doesn't like you in the way that you want them to, spend your time finding someone else that does.
/r/seduction18/11/13 03:16 PM
1

How can I logistically go out 7 nights a week? Check your income. Budget each night out you want. DO NOT blow your budget. What is that like financially? Hell. A while back I did a nearly-every-day stint (about two months). Either hanging out with friends or gaming. Financially it was rough, and afterward I had to really start watching my expenses. Physically/Mentally it was rougher. I was tired all the time and burned out socially at the end. It took about two weeks of not doing anything until …
/r/seduction15/11/13 05:04 PM
10

I've never been married or had an exclusive relationship So then you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about with exclusive relationships or how women act in them.
/r/seduction10/11/13 02:10 AM
10

Never stop dating your girl. Ever. Even after marriage. More introspection. When gaming there's always someone new around the bend, you don't worry as much about how compatible the girl(s) you have are. When in a relationship you have to step back a bit more and consider actual compatibility more often. Learn to objectively criticize your relationship. Still "flirt" with everyone. Just don't take it to an obviously-flirting level. Side note on this: Always be building social connections and soci…
/r/seduction10/11/13 02:08 AM
7

Asking how old you are is not a shit test, it's a fact-finding question. That said you can answer it in a boring way, or answer it in a fun way.
/r/seduction10/11/13 01:55 AM
1

Eat more protein. If you already exercise it will help you bulk up so you aren't "very skinny" anymore. Who the fuck wants to do nothing? Who the hell is attracted to someone that does nothing?
/r/seduction06/11/13 08:03 PM
3

You're telling your friend about her because you really like her, right? Telling your friend didn't jinx you, acting too attached/clingy/needy/desperate too early did. Keep it cooler for longer.
/r/seduction29/10/13 02:43 PM
1

And talking about it shows that she has had an effect on you.
/r/seduction07/10/13 06:21 PM
1

Don't do #2. Let her be, give no fucks.
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:54 PM
6

She's not that into you. Cut her loose.
/r/seduction07/10/13 04:45 PM
4

With older women you can generally "game" a little less. They know what they want, they know how to get it, and they aren't as (socially) embarrassed by it. So you can be very honest with them. After that it's just demonstrating value and calibrating conversation to her interests.
/r/seduction26/09/13 10:38 PM
1

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/r/seduction25/09/13 08:28 PM
0

I've always been able to, then women haven't.
/r/seduction26/08/13 07:12 PM
0

If I see a pile of horseshit, I'm not going to spend my time trying to polish it. I won't even roll it in glitter.
/r/seduction26/08/13 07:11 PM
3

I thought she just wanted the attention(I'm asian) to show she has different kinds of friends. Always assume attraction. she came up to me and asked me to grind on her. I wasn't feeling it so I just gave her a hug instead. Well, it's good that you stood up for what you wanted, but that is a pretty big open invitation. She made some remarks about me a couple of time and pointed at me a little while dancing. What does this mean? Schrodinger's conversation. It could mean everything, it could mean n…
/r/seduction23/08/13 01:55 PM
42

Give no fucks. You are who you are regardless of whether she rejected you or not, so why treat her any different? Don't continue to pursue her, but still treat her as a friend.
/r/seduction22/08/13 08:43 PM
1

If he thought they were hot, why does it matter how hot they are to you? Putting up pics online for strangers is pretty creepy, man.
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:30 PM
2

Get yourself some sex and turn those ONSs into relationships. Works best if you're good in bed.
/r/seduction20/08/13 07:27 PM
1

Do not attempt during floridian summers
/r/seduction09/08/13 02:04 PM
4

No. There are people that honestly feel drained after being around a lot of people. It's not the same as being shy, or antisocial, or having agoraphobia. But after a while of being around a large group of people you need time away to just "recharge".
/r/seduction01/08/13 04:12 PM
1

In this case, the context is the difference. 'Forced' would mean that every child would be required to be circumcised. In reality, the parents choose whether or not that should happen. They aren't forced to do it. However the child doesn't have a say in it, so it's involuntary. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but labelling it as "forced" gives the impression that the government is regulating the removal of foreskin.
/r/seduction30/07/13 12:58 PM
1

I wouldn't say that I've stopped, I just don't actively think about it anymore.
/r/seduction29/07/13 08:13 PM
-2

forced infant genital mutilation How is it forced? I'd say "involuntary" since your parents make the choice, but I don't think "forced" is the correct term here.
/r/seduction29/07/13 08:01 PM
1

The endgame of seduction is to get women. Of course. That's the whole point. Not necessarily. The endgame of seduction is to be attractive to women. What you do with that attraction is completely up to you. Case in point, me: I've had a lot of fun, I've tallied up a good number. But right now I'm not looking for more, I'm using what I've learned in seduction to keep someone that I feel is right for me. Back to your point: On the surface it is a dichotomy, but it is also necessary. Outcome indepe…
/r/seduction29/07/13 07:54 PM
32

I'v had girls tell me that I am too touchy Yup. One of my best nights - a previous-hookup-turned-friend was talking to this HB I was working on and I overhear "...yea, he is very touchy, but don't worry, that's just how he is..." Wingwoman of the year.
/r/seduction27/07/13 11:37 AM
2

I used to. It gets better with more exposure and less fucks given.
/r/seduction26/07/13 08:48 PM
1

Balance in everything. Set aside time to get out and do things.
/r/seduction25/07/13 09:42 PM
1

Allow her to like you and be interested in where this could go, but don't pressure it to happen. Have fun. If you'll both be in town for a while then arrange a date later. If not, keep in contact.
/r/seduction23/07/13 07:31 PM
20

She was also a cheater, why would you trust her opinion?
/r/seduction19/07/13 06:15 PM
4

It's not just this sub, it's everywhere. Men are raised believing that women need to be held to a higher standard than men. Always treat them with respect. Always be a gentleman. However, this should be said about everyone and not just women.
/r/seduction18/07/13 01:29 PM
1

I've had stranger things happen.
/r/seduction18/07/13 01:25 PM
4

just thought I dont want her to feel rejected thats why I went out with her. Why are you worried about her feeling rejected? You don't owe her anything. You will be rejected yourself. What if every girl you met that wasn't interested in you took you on a terrible date just so you don't feel bad? It would be awful. One part of this community that doesn't come up very often is that you will be rejecting people. I usually do it gently, but have had to give a firm "never going to happen" before. ask…
/r/seduction18/07/13 01:20 PM
2

You can ask if they want to kiss you / if you can kiss them, but that leads to awkward responses YES. And the exact thing that women say they want. But when it happens, it just gets weird. It's one of the things I'm glad I stopped doing long ago.
/r/seduction18/07/13 12:59 PM
15

Pay more attention to your own actions. Learn to self analyze. It will take time, but eventually it becomes automatic.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:19 PM
1

You said earlier that you guys friendzoned each other, meaning that you also cut off the potential for a relationship/FWB situation. I will never understand this mentality. The "friendzone" is not a dead end. It's more like a sand trap. Harder to get out of, to be certain, but it isn't a black hole.
/r/seduction14/07/13 04:10 AM
6

"Yea. This almost never works." [go for the kiss]
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:42 PM
1

I shouldn't ask her out the day after. I shouldn't phrase things as "lets do x," I should ask. BS and BS. She may not be into that, but most women are. It's also very likely that she was giving you her "ideal" answers because your game was causing her to think more than feel and not be naturally relaxed. Chances are she reacts well to that stuff more than she realizes. she starts smiling and joking a little bit, allowing kino again [...] So I got friendzoned That isn't the friendzone. I've said …
/r/seduction12/07/13 01:39 PM
-1

"Sorry I ran out of lube. Hope the soreness goes away soon"
/r/seduction08/07/13 08:19 PM
1

Eastern Europe is easy mode. Seriously, check out Belgrade. Gorgeous women that really don't have much to do except go clubbing.
/r/seduction04/07/13 10:30 AM
5

To be fair, being just about anything, not in your home country, helps a lot.
/r/seduction02/07/13 06:52 PM
2

I know hot guys that don't get any because they aren't confident, or are too serious, or are too goofy, or "they did that thing that one time that turned me off", or whatnot. I know normal and "unattractive" guys that pull lots of tail because they know how to be confident, have fun, and escalate well.
/r/seduction02/07/13 06:44 PM
37

long FR, worth the read Don't tell me what to think!
/r/seduction30/06/13 02:31 PM
1

I know plenty of guys who are "mens men" who are manly, champs in mma, have good professions but for the love of god cannot get laid. [...] These guys have good inner game No they don't. In fact, I'd bet they're almost entirely outer game. I'm not a super-buff dude, but I'm not scrawny either. I'm in decent shape, but I don't work out as often as I should. I don't dress excellently all the time. I do have a decent job that allows me to live a comfortable life, but can't live to excess. I'm almos…
/r/seduction28/06/13 08:45 PM
1

Don't drop the gym, but relax on it. Maybe 3 days a week instead of 5. Make some room in your schedule. What would happen if you actually got a number? "Lets go out on a date in a month when something opens up". I'm not sure what your hobbies are, but how many of them are social? Activities that get you out and talking to people are huge for social proofing, and are great conversation pieces.
/r/seduction26/06/13 08:35 PM
1

OP delivered!
/r/seduction26/06/13 08:26 PM
3

More excuses, please.
/r/seduction26/06/13 08:12 PM
1

if they get approached they are SO taken back since it never happens that nothing will come of it That shit's backwards. Day game can work wonders because they aren't expecting it. The shields aren't as thick and you can get a # pretty easily (if you know how to talk to people and be genuine)
/r/seduction26/06/13 08:04 PM
1

Very sparingly, if at all.
/r/seduction26/06/13 11:45 AM
2

Thanks for putting this up, it's good advice. But this is also beginner advice straight out of the sidebar.
/r/seduction25/06/13 06:20 PM
2

Yes! This is an epiphany I had a while back: The club/concert was clearing out, and I had made plans to go home with an HB8, but we were waiting for her friends to finish up some BS. So I start chatting up an HB7 and HB8.5 while we waited, for shits and conversation. The WTF-OMG look I got from the HB8.5 was an absolute riot. Almost as fun as the look on her face when I walked out with my arm around HB8 while wearing a smile that said "I'm not going home alone".
/r/seduction25/06/13 06:09 PM
2

It's tough to say. He was pressed for time, so maybe super direct was the right way to go. If there was more room to chat though, open the HB5 and keep bringing the conversation to HB7.5
/r/seduction21/06/13 01:49 PM
7

"Will it bother you if i talk to your friend for a minute?" You're qualifying her, undervaluing yourself a bit. But it does kind of force the conversation because who would say no to that? I'm not sure how I feel about this line. Mostly my gut says "not good". my inner game is just through the fucking roof Awesome! Keep that feeling up, and keep opening. I was peeing in my pants This might be a language thing, or cultural saying, but please don't say this in English. Ever. Unless you actually di…
/r/seduction21/06/13 12:28 PM
2

Correct, from a certain point of view. Don't be "Nice Guy", for sure. But that doesn't mean you can't be nice. Don't only be nice. Be a normal well-rounded human being. Express desires beyond being good to her. Don't be a doormat, stand up for what you want. Classic mistake of "Nice Guy" - remember to flirt and be at least somewhat sexual. Demonstrate your intentions! Another classic mistake - take charge. Lead her to doing things that you want to do, don't just follow her around. You can be nic…
/r/seduction17/06/13 04:10 PM
3

Reading how other people kiss is definitely a skill you acquire.
/r/seduction11/06/13 04:29 PM
1

Nope. A good looking woman simply doesn't have to.
/r/seduction03/06/13 09:00 PM
1

In general, men pursue, while women choose. There is no pressure on the female end to change, because they can always attract someone else. This is also why you see many more women having "revelations" as they hit their mid 30s and 40s, and actually start changing their habits then - suddenly they aren't as chased anymore, they realize that something is wrong and needs to be fixed. Now, women do change, but nobody will ever openly admit it. How does it happen, you ask? Well, they find a guy that…
/r/seduction03/06/13 08:58 PM
3

Always be escalating.
/r/seduction18/05/13 08:23 PM
1

I force him to work with me, as I use his doucheyness as a step-stool to elevate myself.
/r/seduction14/05/13 02:40 PM
125

If you feel out of place, drink water with a lime wedge and tell people it's gin & tonic. Relax. Don't go to meet someone. Go to have fun. When you realize you're having fun with someone, get flirty. ??? Success
/r/seduction14/05/13 02:38 PM
10

Yes. Not everyone works standard hours, and those that go out on "off hours" naturally have a slightly more difficult time finding quality guys, making you more attractive.
/r/seduction07/05/13 03:18 PM
5

The biggest difference is that you have an extended amount of time to get friendly. Flirt a little, let them chat about you a bit, and come back. Remember that pretty much anything you do is going to cause some amount of drama, so be selective in your targets. Be honest about what you want. If you want to hook up sometimes, let them know it, if you want a relationship, thats fine too. But do not act like you're looking for something serious if you just want to hook up. Or vice-versa. It will lea…
/r/seduction30/04/13 07:32 PM
1

Drink more When you're over-thinking everything you aren't being your genuine self. If you aren't your genuine self you aren't comfortable. How is she supposed to get comfortable when you aren't?
/r/seduction23/04/13 08:58 PM
10

Nothing, specifically. Think about the conversation. That's it. What follows from that is: learning about her, mentioning parts that you relate to, teasing, and flirting.
/r/seduction23/04/13 08:50 PM
4

"Check this out, [f] got her nipples pierced." "You're cool with me seeing your friends tits? This is the most un-subtle way that anyone has tried to get me into a threesome."
/r/seduction20/04/13 09:20 PM
1

Think about some joke, or a funny situation that happened, or any strange question that might get a laugh out of her. If we're walking or doing something active, I'll ramp it up somehow - breaking into a sprint or something - just to switch things up and have fun. Or gently tease her and see if I can move that in a physical direction - conversation doesn't matter if all you're doing is making out. If it goes stale a few times, then she's probably not someone I'm going to stay with, so it doesn't…
/r/seduction17/04/13 03:15 PM
3

I'm going out tonight with a HB9.5 who is a really cool person and has a ton in common with me. If I thought about it too much, I'd be crazy nervous about seeing her. Know what's going to be in the back of my head? "We've already kissed, so I know she likes me, and if I screw this up, I still have [HB7]"
/r/seduction17/04/13 02:55 PM
179

Yep. One girl shortly after the first kiss: "I can't believe you just kissed me! You didn't even ask!" [laugh] "Right. Would you really kiss a guy that asked if he could kiss you first?" [mocking] "Oh baby, I just want to kiss you so bad ... please let me." [laugh] "No" [comes in for the second kiss]
/r/seduction16/04/13 07:25 PM
3

I always go with the cards on the table, but it's about how you lay them down. i.e: instead of saying "this is where I'm at..." just make a move
/r/seduction12/04/13 03:47 PM
7

The other end of that, a lot of girls don't feel comfortable about having a stranger know where they live. I've taken more trips to my apartment than to theirs. And as a bonus, I always know where I keep my condoms.
/r/seduction09/04/13 01:39 AM
1

That sarcasm symbol really needs to be part of the standard keyboard.
/r/seduction08/04/13 10:07 PM
6

hard not to take it personally when someone (maybe) uses you like that Uses? What were you used for? Check your head. Get back to the abundance mentality.
/r/seduction08/04/13 10:02 PM
2

three strikes you're out That's it. Keep her number, wait for her to contact you though.
/r/seduction08/04/13 09:59 PM
4

So I should sit to her left, so I'm showing positive emotions while looking at her. Or should I sit to her right, so she's showing positive emotions while looking at me? Maybe I'll just circle around her until I get dizzy.
/r/seduction08/04/13 07:07 PM
2

Everyone is different. Some women respond to text, some don't. I've known one that said she's a "traditional" girl and prefers calling, but texts me more often than not. Yes, relationships can be built over text. You're in an age of online communication and internet dating, characters on a screen is normal. Just be careful, because you lose a lot of tone with text, sarcasm is hard to read. Yes, texting can blunt your game. With the wrong person, or done inappropriately, texting can kill off what…
/r/seduction08/04/13 04:21 PM
2

Everyone has their own style. For me, throwing my arm around some guy's shoulder and saying "how you doin', stud?" for a quick, cheap laugh has worked out pretty well.
/r/seduction06/04/13 12:05 PM
1

I don't, too risky. It's awesome if you can pull it off, but it can also backfire incredibly badly. I saw a guy peacocking pretty hard at the bar over St. Paddy's weekend, he ended up helping my night out as joke fodder because he was pretty damned ridiculous.
/r/seduction05/04/13 05:08 PM
1

You did not know AFC before that night, you owe him nothing. He wasn't her boyfriend. So the relationship between him and the girl is theirs to reason about, and not something that you should be bothered with. What the fuck would you have done? Separated her from the group and made a move. Since this is obviously in the past, I'd set up a date. Soon.
/r/seduction05/04/13 04:55 PM
2

It sounds like you still aren't comfortable with yourself. At least not in public. You've gotten the external items taken care of, but you've neglected the internal which is far more important. Work on your anxiety, the rest will follow. From the Sidebar. "First you get the approach, then you get the comfort, then you get the women"
/r/seduction05/04/13 04:40 PM
4

Dress well (get friend advice if you need it) Talk to everyone, build social value Pay attention to body language "Flirt" with the guys. Its throws people off balance a bit, keeps things fun, and builds value with both the guy and girl [results may vary] Kino: gentle shoulder touch to get attention, touch her arm to emphasize a point or when she makes you laugh. Backhand-tap on the chest for guys (think the "hey man, check this out" move) Dance if the opportunity arises Walk away when a conversa…
/r/seduction05/04/13 04:30 PM
7

You made the right move because it wasn't what you wanted. That said, I'm pretty bad at saying 'no' when sex is a sure thing, so yea, I would've fucked her brains out.
/r/seduction01/04/13 03:24 PM
4

Not usually when it's plural though ... unless she has a shit ton of baggage...
/r/seduction28/03/13 08:35 PM
0

The good ones will be: "We can't sleep together anymore, [other guy] and I are getting serious." "Cool. Do your thing!" We did sleep with each other once after that (he was sick, we were both drunk). Otherwise she's still one of my better friends, and I'll hang out with both of them on occasion.
/r/seduction26/03/13 05:18 PM
1

For me: put myself in her place. Would you act any different in her shoes? Probably not. After that it's simply a measurement of your self-identity and hypocrisy.
/r/seduction26/03/13 05:13 PM
1

Back home, where she stays while I try to drown my kidneys. I'm 32. If you're under 21 then the chances are your lifestyle is simply too different for me to reasonably deal with.
/r/seduction26/03/13 05:10 PM
0

"Hey, listen, about last time: I didn't mean to be insensitive. I think you're a cool chick, that's why I didn't want to shut you down and hurt you. Friends?" That is exactly an apology. It also contains lies. The simple fact is that if he apologizes, then he's caving to the crazy. It places value on her actions because she's seeing a positive result from them. Overall it would lower his social standing, and give this girl a reason to act the same way in the future. I'm not saying he has to be a…
/r/seduction23/03/13 02:26 PM
16

FUCK. THAT. He didn't do anything wrong. He wasn't being insensitive, he (hopefully) doesn't think she's cool (because she isn't), he did want to shut her down. There's no need for an apology. I wouldn't want to be friends with this crazy chick anyway.
/r/seduction23/03/13 12:57 AM
1

"Cute. TTYL"
/r/seduction22/03/13 08:20 PM
1

Bourbon at that. People do crazy shit on bourbon.
/r/seduction22/03/13 06:52 PM
8

Dunno about you, but when I ruin someones clothes I do my best to replace them.
/r/seduction22/03/13 06:39 PM
4

I read this in the "How I Met Your Mother" 'Dad' voice.
/r/seduction22/03/13 06:38 PM
-7

All of this.
/r/seduction14/03/13 02:33 PM
16

It pretty much boils down to building some quick attraction, then getting out before they get in trouble or feel pressure to get back to work. Guerrilla tactics. Hit, fade away, hit again later. Go for a number when it feels appropriate.
/r/seduction13/03/13 06:41 PM
7

What? The worst response I've had to kino was having a girl joke about it with her friend, and that was because I advanced it a little too quickly. Kino, done properly, is one of the best things you can do to build comfort and attraction.
/r/seduction13/03/13 06:21 PM
13

The best place to practice is wherever you are. That said, Montreal has some beautiful, open women.
/r/seduction11/03/13 04:45 PM
2

Three things, pick at least one: Be truly happy by yourself living your own life Dating more than one person at a time, until a decision is made to be exclusive Having a FWB available The last 2 are the easier ones. They keep you in the mindset of "well, if [x] doesn't work out, I still have [y] and [z]".
/r/seduction11/03/13 04:37 PM
2

No. I've just never heard this before, and I've never had complaints when I initiated it.
/r/seduction06/03/13 06:05 PM
3

I can pretty much guarantee one thing: If you are hanging out and she's having a good time, she will allow a kiss (in private). Very worst case, you get slapped for reading the situation wrong. There's very very little chance of that happening.
/r/seduction06/03/13 02:40 PM
2

Start up an /r/AdvancedSeduction sub.
/r/seduction06/03/13 02:36 PM
4

... I won't downvote, but I disagree
/r/seduction06/03/13 02:34 PM
1

the better you are it, the better you will be at seducing women. To a degree, this is true. I'm currently seeing someone who is incredibly, irritatingly cautious. I think one of the biggest things that propelled me past that caution barrier was going for the kiss on the first date, and being good at it.
/r/seduction06/03/13 02:33 PM
4

Exactly. It's a huge gateway. It is the line that you cross when you go from "maybe he just wants to be friends" into "oh, he's really interested in me".
/r/seduction06/03/13 02:20 PM
0

This explains why I always do so well with foreigners.
/r/seduction28/02/13 04:57 PM
1

Yea, I basically have been. Right now apparently I'm super attractive to 20-somethings. I get to help develop the crazy instead of inherit it.
/r/seduction26/02/13 06:05 PM
5

"I don't have any guy friends" You've been in 10 serious relationships before me, let alone people you've only dated, and you haven't managed to stay friends with any of them? WTF did you do?! Flipside: "I don't have any girl friends" AKA: I surround myself with hangers-on and really don't know how to relate to people.
/r/seduction25/02/13 10:01 PM
13

daddy died Hoooooooold it. Sometimes people die. Often these people's progeny survive the experience just fine. It really depends on the context of how he died, what their relationship was at the time, and the kind of support that was around when it happened. Edit: As a 32 year old single, I'm at an age where a lot of the people I'm dating have deceased relatives for one reason or another.
/r/seduction25/02/13 09:55 PM
10

rawraw's advice is just as solid as yours. She's just describing how to recognize manipulation, over-attachment, and excessive jealousy.
/r/seduction25/02/13 09:52 PM
15

I know a girl who's currently dating a guy she knows she can't trust, because he buys her things. I'm very glad I never pursued her.
/r/seduction25/02/13 09:47 PM
0

"Smart girls want to be told they are pretty. Pretty girls want to be told they are smart." If they're pretty and smart, you're screwed
/r/seduction29/01/13 03:41 AM
13

That's not really the same story.
/r/seduction22/01/13 06:07 AM
0

Not entirely sure what to do this point You already can't go back, so at least that's settled (unfortunately) IMO post poor reviews about the club online. Don't be dishonest though. Post about the worst points of the bar, and the event. "I was thrown out for talking to my date" should be close enough to the truth to get people to perk their ears up and start avoiding the place.
/r/seduction19/01/13 08:25 PM
34

Good read, but trying to make it a double negative to turn it into good advice is kind of a mind fuck.
/r/seduction18/01/13 07:01 PM
1

it takes YEARS to get through my career training and to lose weight. It only takes years to lose weight if you're morbidly obese. Start walking -> jogging -> running. You'll get there faster than you think. I guess I'll just have to be abstinent until that's over with Abstinence is choosing to not have sex. That isn't what you want is it? Obviously not. Get out there and start talking to people. Work on your social issues. Become your own project and really try to improve yourself.
/r/seduction17/01/13 01:51 PM
2

As a dorky, smart guy that can hold eye contact and smile back, I would like to know what bars you frequent. ;)
/r/seduction17/01/13 01:45 PM
1

But I think even the mod here described seddit as being full of "armchair pickup artists" at one point, and I bet that's true. Doesn't mean it's terrible advice, just not always expert advice. My sneaking suspicion is that the guys who are successful at this never really had a problem getting girls to begin with, and are just honing and perfecting their skills. But a lot of us (I think?) are SO far behind that we can't really even hope to get any girl. Is some ways this is true (for me). From th…
/r/seduction17/01/13 01:41 PM
1

nfortunately you didn't choose the ideal moment for your bet, spring/summer are a lot easier to get girls (people are cheerier, more outgoing, more willing to have parties and adventures etc...). Valentines is coming up, there will be plenty of girls looking to have a guy by then
/r/seduction16/01/13 09:32 PM
2

But because nobody makes eye contact in the first place. I've found this to be true, also. You'll get a few rare gems that will lock gazes with you, but mostly instead of their eyes saying "Hi" they say "Oh fuck! He saw us, ABORT!".
/r/seduction15/01/13 03:43 PM
1

There is no way for me to date a girl without feeling ashamed about it. Why? You aren't taking advantage of them. They want to be on the date as much as you do, maybe more so. I also get ashamed when I blatantly show attraction for someone. It makes me very uncomfortable. Even when they're attracted to you? There's little in the world as exciting as mutual attraction. Stop worrying about what they think.
/r/seduction15/01/13 03:21 PM
1

Since money is her self-confessed #1 attraction point, just remember that she'll probably latch on to the next guy with a bigger paycheck when she can.
/r/seduction10/01/13 09:02 PM
4

You sound a little like me. I'm confident, assertive, aggressive when I need to be. But I'm also empathetic, caring, and nurturing. I show some emotion, but I don't cry (except at Les Miserables, fuck that amazing movie) So far, it's worked out pretty well, but it's all about being happy with who you are, and reconciling some balance in yourself. The ladies seem to like that I take charge in most things, but actually listen when they speak.
/r/seduction08/01/13 06:28 PM
3

Hooray for being passive aggressive.
/r/seduction02/01/13 04:57 PM
1

The "game" never ends. Always be working on building attraction.
/r/seduction02/01/13 03:41 PM
1

Oh yea, I didn't intend to do it maliciously. The bold text just got in there on it's own ... I think it has something to do with the underlines.
/r/seduction31/12/12 07:34 PM
10

wtf?
/r/seduction31/12/12 07:16 PM
2

Next time: Open the door "This is my inconsiderate asshole floormate ___. Goodbye __." Shut the door.
/r/seduction31/12/12 07:16 PM
1

I get a kick out of it, personally.
/r/seduction28/12/12 08:21 PM
9

Why so much coffee? For me, coffee = stank breath. And it's a little unusual to see someone sipping on coffee at a bar. What happened to the waitress after you met the gamer? Did you just forget about her? Big mistake saying "that's awesome" if you don't like MMOs. Stand your ground, explain why. It feels more genuine, builds some easy tension, and opens a path for teasy flirting. What happened to gamer after the bathroom? Nice work talking to the nephew.
/r/seduction24/12/12 02:43 PM
5

Social proofing at it's best. Mixed with a little confidence boosting and kino.
/r/seduction21/12/12 07:13 PM
8

My favorite part was one of the image captions. "Until you get where I am, you are nothing but meat and guesses"
/r/seduction17/12/12 08:14 PM
6

I'd hate myself if I brought a girl home that was in a happy, committed relationship. But there are exceptions to every rule. A girl in an abusive relationship can become very, very twisted, logically and emotionally. Abusive relationships make them feel as if they aren't good enough for anyone else, and use fear to keep the woman trapped with the asshole. If 'seducing' her helped open her eyes to the bad relationship that she was in, and helped her have the courage to walk away from the abuser,…
/r/seduction13/12/12 03:55 PM
1

I realized I had gamed this girl way too hard, and was going to have to deal with the consequences. We had a long conversation about it. I made it clear that, while I wasn't super freaked out or anything, I was not going to return that sentiment Good on you. Having a sister that's been through an abusive relationship, and an ex GF that's been through one, I can say that she is really in a fragile state, and you did the best thing by just being honest with her.
/r/seduction13/12/12 03:45 PM
5

It's a trap!
/r/seduction11/12/12 06:24 PM
2

The only difference is whether or not you kick them out in the morning.
/r/seduction09/12/12 03:51 AM
5

Of course there's more options, but my point was that, all things being equal, I'll choose "open and friendly" over "dressed well"
/r/seduction05/12/12 08:39 PM
7

Two beautiful women in a bar: In a great cocktail dress with heels, hunched over, mostly staring into her drink, when she does pop her head up its to check her phone, and quickly looks down again. In a shirt, jeans, and sneakers. Head up. Smiling. Laughing. Engaging others. Making eye contact. I know who I'd rather approach.
/r/seduction05/12/12 06:49 PM
12

I wouldn't have believed anyone if they told me she was the manipulating/ malicious type They always seem normal she's told our group of friends during a conversation that she doesn't date. Haha, right. She's playing you. To what end is the real question.
/r/seduction05/12/12 06:22 PM
16

Generally, any sentence that starts with "I" is speaking for yourself...
/r/seduction05/12/12 06:11 PM
10

simpliest trick in the book, tell his friends him that you "like him". Let the gossip work for you. Gossip can be misconstrued, be direct.
/r/seduction05/12/12 04:15 PM
23

Unless it's super revealing I hardly pay attention to what a girl is wearing - I do notice how much attention she give my way, though. Being open to advances and broadcasting attraction is far more important than dress.
/r/seduction05/12/12 04:13 PM
2

All of the advice in the sidebar is gender neutral. What works for guys works doubly well for girls: Be confident. Be forward. Be genuine. Maintain your health. Have a life. Pursue goals.
/r/seduction05/12/12 04:11 PM
3

It's the same thing with MMO games - or games in general. They give you an easy direction, a purpose, and the entertainment value of it keeps you hooked. I'm not saying games are bad - I've always been a "gamer" - but everyone needs to realize that moderation is necessary.
/r/seduction24/11/12 03:44 PM
1

Thinking about the past is normal. Thinking about people in your past is normal. When I watch Always Sunny I sometimes think about the ex I was dating when I was going to school in Philly. Feeling depressed about it (IMO) is not normal - not after three years. It wasn't a good relationship to begin with Remember this. Learn from your past, accept that it happened, and move on.
/r/seduction23/11/12 07:11 PM
-3

Ambitious Aardvark
/r/seduction23/11/12 03:32 AM
2

I flirt and continue to seduce, but don't push anything physical. You're close enough to talk about her BF so I'd ask her why she doesn't leave him and find someone better, and drop hints that you'd date her if she was available.
/r/seduction23/11/12 03:22 AM
4

The sociopath does what he wants. The alpha achieves realistic goals while simultaneously taking others' lives into consideration. The alpha would not ruin this other girlfriend's life just for the most petty version of revenge.
/r/seduction23/11/12 01:31 AM
16

passive-aggressive is not alpha in the least.
/r/seduction22/11/12 05:46 PM
2

No. Your relationship is between you and her, not him and her. She's the one at fault, so dump the bitch. You don't have to pretend to be cool with the guy, but confronting him is not the "alpha" thing to do, it's the douchebag thing to do. Modifier: If you knew him before she cheated, then I absolutely would confront him. A real man doesn't sleep with a girl he knows is with someone else.
/r/seduction22/11/12 05:41 PM
0

I seriously think my lacks of balls are holding me back more than porn. Deprive yourself of satisfaction through porn and you will start seeking satisfaction elsewhere. It's a more challenging road, but a more rewarding one.
/r/seduction22/11/12 05:30 PM
-3

That's only 1/5 of the post.
/r/seduction22/11/12 05:27 PM
1

Just going to put this out there: "Constructive abandonment" [can refer] to a cessation of sexual relations as constituting an abandonment even though the parties may continue to live together. In Diemer v. Diemer,7 the Court of Appeals held that a wife's religious scruples did not justify her in refusing to have sexual relations with her husband when they had been married in a civil ceremony, but not according to the rules of her church. Her refusal to have sex with him was deemed to constitute…
/r/MensRights22/11/12 01:48 AM
12

Me: "Hashtag close? That's odd... Oh right, 'number' close." Twitter is really messing up my though process.
/r/seduction17/10/12 06:35 PM
1

It was a worthy the sacrifice for the cause.
/r/seduction09/10/12 12:28 PM
2

"how is it that a girl like you isn't already taken?" Out of nowhere it puts a little too high of a value on her for my taste. It's a great line after she says something remarkable or ridiculous, even if a bit used up. Really it's just trying to tease the information out of her, not asking directly, but trying to intuit her status from what she's telling me. If I can't figure it out then try the "story" thing: "What are we going to tell people about how we met?" [insert random jokey shit, be sur…
/r/seduction08/10/12 09:35 PM
0

so at that point the dynamics are tough hmmm... if the dynamics start to get tough you should really cut out on a high note, back off for a bit, and get back to her later.
/r/seduction08/10/12 09:22 PM
8

This point in the term is between first day and midterms. Parties have happened, hookups, dumps, meeting people, etc. There's been enough time to settle in on a guy, but not enough time to get sick of him yet. So, yes, it's more likely that the college chicks will have a boyfriend. Why are you going so long w/o finding out if they're taken? What is your response when you find out?
/r/seduction08/10/12 09:01 PM
5

oh ho! someone's been doing their seddit homework
/r/seduction08/10/12 08:55 PM
-17

Then where's my upvote?!
/r/seduction08/10/12 08:44 PM
15

I love hearing this from the other side. Thanks!
/r/seduction08/10/12 08:09 PM
5

How do you guys internally deal with regret? Learn and move on. How can you approach a set of girls with obtaining only one of them in mind? Open all of them, slight focus on the one I'm interested in. I only kino the interest(s). How can I compel myself to talk to more girls? Just do it. You wont gain anything by not talking to them.
/r/seduction05/10/12 08:26 PM
3

You can do both. It works for me.
/r/seduction05/10/12 02:29 PM
10

Makes me glad I'm a happy drunk.
/r/seduction05/10/12 02:06 PM
6

Great work. From experience: Be especially mindful of seeing her too often. It's really tempting to chill & hook up with your hot new neighbor a lot, since there's no inconvenience barrier to seeing her. Just don't shoot yourself in the foot by being too available or eager.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:54 PM
0

Could you point out where he says this is a FWB? All I can find is a women [sic] I'm seeing
/r/seduction04/10/12 02:23 PM
1

If you think that seduction ever really stops then you're mistaken.
/r/seduction04/10/12 12:58 PM
1

Not if you're gay.
/r/seduction04/10/12 12:54 PM
13

That's a bad thing? Maybe that's what he wants. Seduction isn't limited to screwing around with everyone, and it's never been about avoiding real relationships.
/r/seduction04/10/12 12:34 PM
1

how to monitor my progress Keep a journal. Try to remember as much as you can about the interaction and write it all down. When things go south you can pick apart what happened and learn what to do or avoid.
/r/seduction03/10/12 06:30 PM
2

Define "masculine". If you're thinking strong, confident, self-assured, or anything along those lines, then that's exactly what /u/Jo_n64 is trying to do.
/r/seduction03/10/12 02:12 PM
4

I would start with like calling "hey" from my window then hide, maybe just call a random number then explain I dialed the wrong number. No. Initiating is fine, backing down is not. Don't get used to the cowards way out, get used to initiating and saying "Nice talking with you" when it starts to get awkward.
/r/seduction02/10/12 08:50 PM
2

The "advanced" stuff is about getting in her pants.
/r/seduction02/10/12 12:33 PM
3

Verily. The only times in life that I am anxious, sad/depressed, or scared is when something shakes my confidence ladder.
/r/seduction02/10/12 02:38 AM
3

it is WAY larger the some seduction that are link to your ego Honestly, 99% of seduction is exactly what this talk is about - improving yourself, your perceptions of yourself, and your presence.
/r/seduction02/10/12 02:34 AM
2

Be cool. Was the "Sorry" text a bad idea? Not a bad idea, but a better idea would be to say it in person. Man up. I don't whether the girl I went home with interpreted it as a bad one stand... Who cares? ...and I should just move on, cause she didnt reply to my text. Yes. Move on.
/r/seduction01/10/12 06:05 PM
2

smelling my hair, hands on my neck, [...] breaking touch barriers, building an attraction through gentle negs, establishing himself in a passive alpha way I've done these things before I read anything about seduction, they've always been a part of who I am, only after did I realize why they worked. It could be the same for him.
/r/seduction01/10/12 03:05 PM
2

I, personally, love being chased. It shows I'm doing things right and keeping her interest.
/r/seduction27/09/12 03:41 AM
5

1 & 2) Flirt. Keep up your game with everyone. Just don't cheat. 1 & 3) Take an interest in what they're talking about. Learn about her friends. They just referenced a story? Ask for some context. Don't be a wallflower or bar stool, be an active part of the conversation. 1 & 2 & 3) I think normally in this type of situation, I would just make friends with the people I didn't know, but I just don't have the motivation or energy to do this [...] partly because I don't care to make new friends You …
/r/seduction20/09/12 08:56 PM
11

How do I deal with them without being a dick? Just be a dick. If you don't gain anything from them being around (including general friendship) then you have no need for them in your life. There's no requirement for you to be nice to everyone, just be nice to the people that you genuinely enjoy being around.
/r/seduction20/09/12 06:36 PM
1

/r/Seduction is about confidence, demonstrating value, and outcome independence. (And then later about getting your privates to rub together). Any advice that you get here will be to break up with her, and move on. Honestly, you can't make anyone fall in love with you. You can be your best self and hope that they do, but that is it. Break up with her, try to remain friendly, go flirt with other girls, and get back to your old self.
/r/seduction20/09/12 06:21 PM
2

I say that recently I've been working long hours (mostly true) on stressful work (partially true) and need a little more time than normal to recuperate (only a little true). But that once work dies down I'll be back to my regular gym schedule and getting back into [insert social event].
/r/seduction19/09/12 07:19 PM
2

Not directly important, and you can still close easily without one. It does help because it's a great way to get invited to events, and is a low-stress way to communicate with a girl. If you're looking to get into a relationship then it again helps because she can "stalk" you and get an idea of your personality.
/r/seduction17/09/12 03:44 PM
3

I don't have the time or inclination to google translate all the french I forgot since highschool.
/r/seduction11/09/12 07:59 PM
11

Back off, try again in a week or two. In the meantime approach other girls a lot.
/r/seduction31/08/12 08:41 PM
2

Life is about balance. I wish I could look at people the same way and not have every little body language be analyzed and processed in my head It's unfortunate that this is what you took away from 'seduction' and how it's affected you. Personally I've used the community & techniques to gain confidence in myself, approach better, gain interest better, and stopped there. Why? Well, once I had interest I was always a pretty strong closer, so I didn't feel that I needed a lot of help there. I also n…
/r/seduction31/08/12 03:19 PM
5

Yes. But you're young and there'll be plenty more. Move on, and learn from this. Next time continue the conversation, compliment her back.
/r/seduction30/08/12 08:27 PM
4

Post has only been up for 3 hours, calm down.
/r/seduction30/08/12 08:12 PM
1

Honestly, once I get to the point where I'm groping a chick I have no problems getting an F-Close. I'm not even sure what I do right, I just do it. There's definite constant escalation, but it's not like I follow a stepped guideline. IMO its less about what & how you're touching, and more about escalating passion.
/r/seduction30/08/12 08:11 PM
2

her favorite is return and mine is empire well, you have better taste than her
/r/seduction30/08/12 08:05 PM
2

But some girls kinda like to play the game and want to be pursued. That's the balance that you need to find. Personally, I like to flip the game around and try to have them pursue me a bit. Chasing them constantly feels too needy. A key point in my previous post is that at no time are you ignoring the girl. You're demonstrating interest while maintaining that you have your own life to live and aren't needy.
/r/seduction29/08/12 07:20 PM
1

The conversation should flow a little more like this: guy: Hey so I'm free Friday. Let's get together. Hey, I've been feeling like getting some <nationality/> food. Want to join me? <restaurant/>, Friday at <time/>. Or seeing a movie, whatever, the point is to be specific and have the event, location, and time pre-set. her: Oh, I'm busy on Friday. guy: OK. I'm pretty tied up the rest of the week. Maybe <friend/> will want to go instead. her: [who the hell knows] then a couple of options stem fro…
/r/seduction29/08/12 06:47 PM
1

Wingwomen are crazy effective. So incredibly effective that I can't even put it into words all proper-like.
/r/seduction28/08/12 03:58 PM
6

Dress flirty, be receptive to advances, don't overthink things. If you see someone you're attracted to, don't be afraid to approach him and initiate conversation. Most of the advice in the FAQ/Sidebar does not apply to just men, follow it.
/r/seduction27/08/12 08:30 PM
6

"emotionally open" means willing to talk about how you feel about things, but not necessarily doing so; certainly not making a habit of it "needy" means that you're constantly looking for attention or seeking validation about how you feel, often to the point where you're driving others away
/r/seduction27/08/12 07:05 PM
1

How's your kino? Read this, then live it.
/r/seduction27/08/12 03:53 PM
3

NO MORE FUCKING AROUND! Awesome. Remember to smile and use body language. You said you have no problem talking to random people, so you're already ahead of many others in the game. Just remember that the HB9 is still a random person, so treat them the same, just with some flirtyness thrown in. Good Luck You don't need luck.
/r/seduction27/08/12 03:07 PM
1

Awesome and true. I can't wait to see this on /r/BestOf
/r/seduction23/08/12 03:09 PM
-2

Assert your wants more. Flirt with her friend -- all of them. Openly.
/r/seduction21/08/12 07:46 PM
3

Some will say wait to create tension, I say send her a short text tonight and do the tensioning after that.
/r/seduction17/08/12 03:36 PM
14

Which is why he kept it light and cut out early. I can see this conversation happening easily within the span of time it takes to ring up watermelon and beer.
/r/seduction17/08/12 01:20 PM
12

Well, he was in a line in a grocery store, and she still has a job to do - preferably without getting in trouble. If it was not at her workplace he probably should have hung around a bit more. This way he established some control of the situation and positioned himself well to talk to her again in the future.
/r/seduction17/08/12 01:18 PM
6

On the sidebar: GLOSSARY OF TERMS A-G GLOSSARY OF TERMS H-Z
/r/seduction16/08/12 03:01 PM
9

Was the guy that gave it to you Canadian?
/r/seduction15/08/12 11:16 AM
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