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Then she can leave, no? Just factor in the divorce, alimony, and child support. I wouldn’t want to stay and have my purchasing power decreased over that many years, but she’s never gave an ultimatum towards his livelihood - to bring it up now is a little absurd. If you flip the genders, the hypothetical man would be chided for being financially abusive, materialistic, and chided for being a misogynist who doesn’t recognize how hard it is for a woman to work.
/r/MensRights30/05/25 02:36 AM
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I don't know how vitriolic the talk was - she said the people there were trying to "train their wives/girlfriends to be submissive", but her perception seems pretty set considering she went in this dating spree with some preconceived notions about how men listening to independent podcasts who bring on potentially controversial figures is somehow linked to their political affiliations and stances. I'm sure the conversation wasn't 100% scientific and clinical with each participant bringing a copy …
/r/MensRights13/04/25 11:12 PM
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Its kind of funny - she cites one example of men gathering together to talk about their relationships and significant others, saying these men need therapy and need to get off the internet. Not sure what exactly they were talking about but a group of men meeting together in real life and discussing relationships seems to be some form of group therapy.
/r/MensRights13/04/25 07:38 PM
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To be fair OOP is called out in the comments but she continues to defend how she feels is valid. I mentioned those comments in my post - OOP continues to defend her position saying she is resentful, feels that she is doing more in the relationship despite husband doing his fair share in taking care of their child and paying for things 50-50 despite having a smaller income, and expresses annoyance when he thinks her income will be shared like all other obligations and perks in their relationship.…
/r/MensRights13/04/25 09:04 AM
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I don't know if "most women" aren't looking for financial gain, but 64% of women think financial stability is a important determinant when it comes to dating and relationships. https://thenewsette.com/2018/02/06/just-important-money-women-comes-dating/ If men aren't able to earn as much as women in the future since men aren't obtaining education and income at the same levels as women, women will have to deal with the problems that come with being a breadwinner. This is one example in which this …
/r/MensRights13/04/25 03:11 AM
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Do you agree there’s a trend that women seek men who are or have potential to be financial providers? If so, do you think women will change with the coming generations as men now earn less than women? I understand this is one example, but this situation may soon be the norm for men. Conventionally men don’t care too much about their partner’s salary or earning potential, and were expected to join finances and split equity evenly, so why should things be different when men have less income? This …
/r/MensRights13/04/25 02:50 AM
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Exactly, especially when it sounds like her husband is doing his fair share with the child already, and he’s splitting costs with her 50-50 straight down the middle even though she makes double his income. If this were the reverse situation, the man would be labeled as a financial abuser whose keeping a woman enslaved on a shoestring budget, but in this case it’s only a woman who has control over the finances because “it’s her strong suit”. Either you split the finances entirely (that means you …
/r/MensRights13/04/25 12:14 AM
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Women: “we’re done with relationships and are decentering men” Society: “yassss slay kweeennn” Men: “okay we won’t approach anymore” Society: “OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH TODAYS MEN”
/r/MensRights28/03/25 05:09 PM
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Best faith interpretation I can come up with is that saying “let them choose the bear” is advocating for hate/violence, and “it’s different” when they say it vs. when we agree. Worst faith is just censorship of the dialogue which furthers entrenchment in perspectives, polarization, and radicalization. No worries, just don’t say or do anything that would go against their worldview - women are wonderful, and I support them fully :>
/r/MensRights16/03/25 07:23 AM
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Dude did everything right - ask his wife for her opinion, took it into consideration but ultimately disagreed, and made his decision informing his wife - still thrown under the bus.
/r/MensRights27/11/24 08:01 AM
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Totally agree with you there. Personally I find many women simply expect people to make accommodations for them, and if you don't you're crucified. If they were previously able to do their job at a high level, they cry foul when the company lets them go after they get pregnant and their productivity and performance drops, or they expect to get a promotion when they get back because they put in all that time at the company (read: while they were on maternity leave). If someone asks nicely and com…
/r/MensRights15/11/24 06:44 PM
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I’m not saying they don’t. There’s no ethics to it - companies are to make money, not help women raise children. If they want these accommodations, find a company that will provide them, or become so invaluable to the company that they must meet your demands. The reality is these women want children and expect everyone else to foot the bill. Having a child is a private decision that eventually becomes a public good - stop asking men who often have no say in family or parental rights or single me…
/r/MensRights13/11/24 06:37 PM
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Like no one’s keeping her there. Even if you do think these things just leave?
/r/MensRights13/11/24 05:39 PM
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Funny thing is they are all working moms. No accommodations or factors to consider like past experience with the company or education, but when it comes to firing someone’s who unproductive and pregnant, it’s discrimination.
/r/MensRights13/11/24 05:28 PM
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Ideal management
/r/MensRights13/11/24 04:23 PM
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The election's been an activation function for me - it's small things like this that push people from one side to another. inb4 "Just log off the internet, touch grass" it's a whole wide world full of anecdotes that when normalized and condensed into a study that show similar findings.
/r/MensRights13/11/24 04:18 PM
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No worries your comment below shows your mindset pretty clearly. Good luck with your comedy career.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 06:12 AM
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Maybe you can enlighten me - I’m a man who’s not as intellectually equipped as you. Thanks in advance! Edit: Reddit did me the favor of hiding your comment below - apparently there were some incorrect assumptions in my statement.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 06:07 AM
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Kind of ironic considering how many women are giving their husbands and boyfriends ultimatums “if you don’t vote for Harris we’re through” If women don’t have to tell how they voted, men don’t have to tell either :) women can always rely on bears rather than men to vote how they like Edit: apparently men can't lie about their vote - there's a recent post on a popular women's subreddit stating OP is "angry and devastated" her partner lied to her about intending to vote after she questioned him ab…
/r/MensRights03/11/24 05:03 AM
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Voting PSA: Your wife or girlfriend doesn't need to tell you how she votes! Corollary: You don't need to tell your wife or girlfriend how you vote either :) Don't worry about them, the polls aren't taking into account the massive bear vote turnout.
/r/MensRights01/11/24 04:01 PM
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I appreciate the suggestion but I don’t think I will.
/r/MensRights24/10/24 02:12 PM
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Then the Democratic Party should state explicitly they support men - it’s a demographic that is ready to be secured. In reality they won’t because the aesthetics of supporting men doesn’t conform with their philosophy towards equity. Trump may not care about men, but one can argue the Democratic Party doesn’t either - its constituents may believe men are dangerous at best, or men are scum at worst. Trump has done a much better job at reaching out to men - he’s participated in podcasts, livestrea…
/r/MensRights23/10/24 01:47 PM
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I think the policies you stated are great in general - as others have pointed out unfortunately, they don't specifically target men, and thus fall on the ear as typical political platforming. I genuinely believe Republicans also want to tackle some of these issues albeit in their own way - Democrats are great at institutionalizing and building a government foundation to solving problems, but I'd be hard pressed to recall the last time I volunteered at a local church or charity and offered grassr…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 04:43 AM
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I'm left leaning and Democratic, but considering voting for Trump this election. I'm aware he likely won't support men as much as what's needed, but I cannot vote for Kamala and the Democratic Party at this time. Culturally I feel men are not welcome and their needs are secondary. Another post shows that the Democratic Party website confirms this sentiment - men are conspicuously missing from their site page on who they serve: https://democrats.org/who-we-are/who-we-serve/ Your commentary is hel…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 02:42 AM
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I wish him the best and I hope he’s able to take care of himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:36 PM
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Is emotional abuse not actual danger? Emotional abuse is one example I highlighted but others have provided other forms of abuse. I think it’s a bit nuanced since some forms of abuse aren’t necessarily discretized but a spectrum or overlapping categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:24 PM
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I agree - all I’m saying is that men could be in the same financially disadvantaged position and would require a means to get to a safe place and stability. A go bag would serve this purpose - it’s not a means to “get even” with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:17 PM
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I don’t think this is a “gotcha” - I think it’s important to empower men to avoid abusive situations - guys should take note of some survival tactics that women have used because I think in the near future men may encounter abuse when they are currently ill equipped to recognize, avoid, and survive abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:43 PM
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I’m not assuming he is the breadwinner. The line of reasoning is that abuse leads to mental or physical problems that prevent someone from earning a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:21 PM
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Would the issue women face be externalized and identified as a physical incapacity or an inability to earn income? There are different factors preventing the individual from obtaining food and shelter, but ultimately the outcome is similar in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 08:05 PM
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I don’t know about the prevalence of outcomes, but the severity of outcomes for men seems dire. Emotional abuse can lead to depression, anxiety, cPTSD, and other psychological disorders. Men are less likely to seek out mental health help, and having these undiagnosed problems can lead to a loss of income or increase suicidality. These are equivalent problems women face, but they are problems that should be mitigated, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:45 PM
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Thanks for this comment! This situation is not about getting even - if someone wants out of a relationship, that it - there’s no getting even. If having a means to escape is a just in case, I think men should have the same claim as women would when encountering abuse. While emotional abuse is not the same as domestic violence, it’s disappointing to see the prevalent belief that men can just go work and make money afterwards. I can imagine emotional abuse would debilitate a man’s ability to work.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:27 PM
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Thanks! I don't think this fully accounts for couples in which the woman earns a higher salary as the man may be financially trapped just like women once were, but glad to know empowering victims to leave situations where any form of abuse may be present is just as important for men as it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:41 AM
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Agreed - it's a bit concerning as men may be inclined to ignore or otherwise not recognize emotional abuse, and even if they do, I feel legal recourse isn't as viable as it would be with physical abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:29 AM
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Understood - my bad, I interpreted your original comment of Dad leaving for a pack of cigarettes as a bit of a straw man of a man getting out of an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:25 AM
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I think it's becoming more common and may be the plurality of cases in the future. Women are starting to out earn men, and are seeking higher education - it's entirely possible the power dynamic will shift. Women are entirely capable of physical abuse, but a naive or uneducated man victimized by emotional abuse could be in those same dire straits today as women once were. I see emotional abuse as more difficult to identify, pinpoint, and prosecute as well. A man subjected to this form of abuse m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:18 AM
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Thanks - I'm 70/30 on the mix but also think men may not even consider this an issue and just muddle through the abuse as just another aspect of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:11 AM
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Is a lack of evidence from men a display of minimization of male mental health and well-being, or a lack of emotional abuse perpetrated by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:04 AM
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I'm not advocating for men abandoning their families. I'm claiming that if it's permissible that women have escape funds due to the possibility of abuse, men should do the same. I chose emotional abuse as a comparable motivator (physical abuse or domestic violence are just as valid), but I think emotional abuse captures the subjectivity and lack of burden of proof when it comes to feeling unsafe with a partner, thus resulting in setting up an escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:01 AM
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Couldn't a man be a stay at home dad or take custody of a child and be unable to work for an extended period time due to psychological trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:55 AM
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