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chumplady.com is fascinating. Like the inverse of MRP or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:57 PM
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medians
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:04 PM
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> Women Have Nothing to Lose and Everything to Gain Late comment, but back when I was dating, women wanted to split the check because they didn't want to feel "paid for" or that they "owed it to him". So I very much disagree with this statement. This kind of dating will put you in the crosshairs of some rapey gigabetas. Some of them will be smooth enough until they can isolate you and put the pressure on because you "owe" them. Like they will take you to Turkey or on a cruise before they corner …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:39 AM
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Hah, my ex used to have her dates drop her off at my place too. Thanks for warming her up guys!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 12:27 AM
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In pirates of silicon valley, young Bill Gates is depicted as a wild guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 12:13 AM
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lol, you gotta love the see ooh pee eee that guys are too busy doing math problems to go out on saturday night. Meanwhile the whole chad stereotype is the fratboy destined for wall street. Most rich people got that way because they're good at sales or bizdev etc, not designing motherboards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 07:19 PM
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Yeah, with humans too. "Beta Orbiting" does work like 2% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 07:03 PM
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So the mistress writes a very long email to the wife, with full details of the seduction and torrid affair. The wife responds with one line "I know." Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:51 PM
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Funny thing is the female backchatter on this situation was "he must be a fag and she's playing the beard" and "she needs to dump him and get laid" so she certainly wasn't winning in that regard. Actual FSM status involves securing some good D I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:37 PM
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[MGTOW] act almost like a think tank for TRP and the manosphere. This is appallingly backwards--no Alpha or high-T male has any reason to listen to them; would Aragorn need Wormtongue's opinion about women, no. This is such a great way of putting this. I remember when MTGOWs started trolling game/pickup sites and they were SO MAD that men were crossing their women strike line and validating foids and giving them alcoholic beverages and tremendous orgasms and etc. And the response was almost a un…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:12 PM
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No, what I'm saying is SAME GIRL, if you bring her to a fancy restaurant SHE will go into "beta bux" mode and nobody's genitals end up stimulated. Its only a you problem because you didn't plan a better date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 05:54 PM
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the initial chemistry is there, why not invest in a sit down dinner for the first meet. The actual answer to this is because its pretty boring. And because duel mating strategy is real and if you take a woman to a fancy restaurant, she'll spend the whole time probing you about your pOteNtIaL. And then she'll walk away thinking "he's handsome but he's boring and only talks about his job." But if you take the same girl out for dancing, music, street fair, etc, you can even bounce somewhere and buy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 05:11 PM
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I'm recalling a "female dating strategy" situation where the guy would bring the girl around and show her off to his business partners and family and etc. Even though he wasn't sleeping with her, he was still using her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 04:58 PM
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Yeah, beer in the park, what is this high school? At least marry the HVM who has $9 wine and a sofa.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 04:51 PM
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Related to recent xmas postings, here's my favorite serial killer. I always though Ted Bundy was kinda boring. Like he was a good-lookin pickupartist who ... stabbed women instead of just making out with them. How is that commendable? For a long time now I followed /r/EARONS/ the "Golden State Killer" case because they had DNA. It always seemed they would eventually catch the guy, and eventually they did. Way more interesting look into male psychopathy IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:45 AM
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Yep, you are correct that some powerful middle-aged men have so many attractive qualities that they forget about the whole seduction game and just grab that puss. PoundMeToo their ass. But there is a happy medium there with outcome-independent young dudes who aren't trying to prove anything, Either way, keep yourself safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 05:15 AM
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Short skirts in alleys almost never happens statistically, that's just your sadfap revenge fantasy. There was a detective on NPR and he said the typical violent rapist was a jilted lover who came over under the auspices of trying to reconcile the relationship. That kind of shit is why feminists say rape is about power, its often just some really pathetic guy who is trying to save his little ego. Also that is why the smart thing for women is to only have sex with super abundant alpha males. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:30 AM
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Dirty secret about dating is if you want someone good, you might have to steal them. In big cities this gets obscured quite a bit, but there's not too many attractive people out there who are totally single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:20 AM
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Played both football and rugby (and soccer when I was younger) and you're right on. Football is really played on the sidelines and in the booth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:10 AM
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High school dating is associative mating in MUCH smaller pool. Many people start dating just because their friends are. Also everyone is stuck there and can orbit each other for a longass time before they finally hookup, but that kind of shit does not work at all in the real world. You're right tho that once together, you have nothing to do but dance and drink and screw. Not that you are carefree, but you both know that life will probably send you apart sooner or later. But I know two couples th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 07:40 AM
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Nobody does this unless they are into theater or whatever. You know "gym guy" is a type too? (and not a universal one)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:39 PM
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Twas the Saturday night before Christmas And all through the sub Not a creature was stirring Except for MGTOWs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:03 PM
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Like I haven't known some attractive women who were total headcases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 07:51 PM
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Wow, some of you guys missed outcome-independence day. The point is you're doing fun shit with your friends, not that you're tryharding your way into a scene to get some puzzy. Nobody is saying you shouldn't go to the gym or whatever trp recommends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 07:31 PM
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Oh, they talked about it, but it was probably more like someone "heard a rumor about Lotbuilder".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:31 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:26 PM
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Yep, never kiss and tell. (I won't even spill the beans to my wife.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 05:55 PM
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"A lot" being relative. I just don't think there's any inherent reason for more attractive women to have less partners... everyone wants to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 05:51 PM
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Prostitution usually is included in partner count studies, but you're right its a median.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 05:51 PM
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Alright, smoke em if you got em.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:25 AM
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I think not in California, but I'll inform any emo leftovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 05:43 AM
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Yes, but not "skinny" but more like athletic runner/aerobic type low bodyfat women. The look was fitness-oriented not anorexic. (e.g. my high school girlfriend ran cross-country and had the exact formula which made her boobs as small as possible but still could get her period, and that turned out to be pretty much the teenager "ideal".) Also I gotta say the stacies at work are gymthots and have slim little butts, so I assume that's still what gets Chadwick sprung. Reddit is full of low caste ppl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 05:38 AM
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I know what you're talking about but fyi clove cigarettes have been banned for quite a while now. Probably some sort of vape which fits the bill tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 05:12 AM
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Srs, my friend was a practicing lawyer but he'd pick up shifts bartending at a wedding venue because half the time he'd go home with a depressed bridesmaid or someone. Half the problem is just putting yourself in the proximity of women. But these mentalcels want girls dropshipped to their basement or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:58 AM
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From what I've heard, the fit swingers invite each to private parties and don't tell the fats about it. It is a middle aged thing tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:48 AM
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Poly gross. I'd suggest the BDSM scene instead, but that's also a shitshow. I don't know what replaced craigslist, but I know a guy with a very attractive wife he found with some sort of "lets get drunk and fuck" type ad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:45 AM
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Besides aforementioned hobbies/activities, you want friends who are not all buddies with each other so you can both add value to each other's circles. I'm bad at making friends, but value the ones I've got, so don't ask me how tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:38 AM
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Sex positive nonjudgmental mentality, learn how to pick up on IOIs and escalate, be good and giving in bed, and super discrete. Having broad social circles and female friends helps. And don't fill your head with spergy alpha/beta theories, it will just increase your inhibition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 03:57 AM
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Have you seen those strip club regulars who come in to give all their money to their favorite stripper? Cringe city.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 12:24 AM
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I don't know if it is objective attractiveness, but some women seem way more approachable and get approached way more often. A lot of it comes down to how they're dressed and etc too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:17 PM
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First of all, I don't know if this is really a thing because a lot of highly attractive women have done sex work and etc. But other women I know have very high standards (as they can afford to have), and they're DQ'ing 99.9% of the population they aren't going to get around that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 11:12 PM
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Nope, ER conclusively proves that every incel who isn't horribly deformed is in fact a mentalcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 10:23 PM
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Other kids could sense he was mentally ill and a potential school shooter, and they were right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:57 PM
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Not true at all, the guy was totally malfunctional. Men couldn't stand him either!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 06:33 PM
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Right, I don't see this working at all, and not because of the man's "value". (Unless there's some long distance factor etc.) No woman is going to blueball herself for 3 months if she's really attracted to the guy. And if she's not really attracted, she's going to get bored of him long before date #6. Don't take dating advice from lesbians who think mooching meals is revenge against patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 07:56 PM
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Makes you wonder if he was banging Graf on tour the whole time he was with Shields. Maybe once he got over the model babes, they were the soulmates. And I'm kinda the male version of Graf so certainly can't diss her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:50 AM
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Ha x2
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 04:41 AM
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He's right, the actual mechanism isn't "dread".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 01:54 AM
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Here in California, I've had girlfriends with the "if its yellow, let it mellow" philosophy, and if there's any way to recycle sewage, I've never heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 01:49 AM
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Yeah, I have friends in Taiwan, and they are on to the english teacher type guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:37 PM
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I've done the poly thing, so in some cases literally yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:52 PM
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Eh, plenty of women have confirmed to me the polygamous tendencies RP talks about. I do agree that attractive men don't dumpster dive just for "variety".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:14 PM
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So the idea that a guy who's already been banged by his gf, is going to go out and find a *less attractive woman*, and do her too, is not realistic to me. Where I disagree with a lot of redpills is these rating schemes where one girl is a 6.923 and the other is a 7.329 and etc, and at least for e there's different kinds of attractiveness. So I agree guys aren't going for objectively less attractive women, but that's not to say men don't like variety, coolidge effect, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:41 PM
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I had to look this up and his wife is Steffi Graff the famous tennis star, so associative mating. He was previously married to Brooke Shields (famous model).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:14 PM
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Not the pump-n-dump type unless there's huge red flags. There's "waiting" where she comes over with a bottle of wine and you makeout and suck face for a few hours, but she's not quite ready to pull the trigger. And that's aok IMO. And then there's being strung along for dinner dates which seems awful. Either way 3 months is a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:59 PM
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Nah, even though I don't like him for reasons, Blackdragon is your typical Portland Polyamorist, except with a "redpill" marketing spin. He's a single dad who's primary is a single mom, they both fuck other people, that doesn't make him a cuckold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:24 AM
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IMO it is a good premise. We've even had threads here like "high school lied to us because good grades doesn't get you sex," which should make everyone wonder how someone could be so obtuse and unobservant of their peers. Weird as fuck, but apparently common enough among PPD users. Better to be on the offensive about this stuff than the defensive (which is all waaah wahh mommy stuff.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:00 AM
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Yeah, I agree they overestimate the average male sex drive. Not to bring back porn week again, but imo a lot of that is "make it go away" versus "solve it".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:54 AM
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I think you're mixing up two things. Plebbit TRP sez "LTRs are hard mode" because they are still in fake-it-till-you-make mode and they're all deathly afraid of backsliding. And yeah, that doesn't make for a quality partner, because its all an act. That does not mean that inculcated masculine qualities aren't highly valued by certain women for LTR, even including a lot of libfem types.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:28 AM
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I'm thinking these "everyone lied to me" guys probably had late puberties, so they didn't notice the girls gushing over the cute 7th grade boy because they were too busy with pokemon or whatever. Also probably low libido, so they weren't 🤔 about what girls really like. But I don't know how someone can get through college without figuring something about women out. I dunno, but it was always obvious to me that some guys were hot and some guys were not (me at the time), and that girls like muscles…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 05:05 AM
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Again, lots of probably long forgotten old school pua stuff about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:46 AM
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Lookup the 10 commandments of poon or whatever it was called... its all about your girlfriend(s). > Then why are so many of them arguing with me???? v🤨v because you are argumentative?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:34 AM
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I can halfway believe this, but the 4 knows he's going to pump-n-dump her and might bitch shield him, where the 6/7s may be more likely into him. This is also suicide strategy if more attractive girls in his social circle see him doing this. He becomes a 4-fucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:27 AM
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And average ordinary 21 year old college girl ... not so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:23 AM
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MRP is straight up dogshit. It’s the shitty sequel haha. I'll give MRP credit for two things tho: 1) they are talking about actual women versus generic tinder slut #234, and 2) they call the man a faggot rather than reeeing about how awful women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:14 AM
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women who will open their legs for you LARPing Chad They figured out early on that LARPing doesn't really work beyond the initial hookup. "Frame" and "inner game" and etc was stuff that was applicable in relationships. Not really a CMV, but early roissy/hearste had a very different attitude about this than reddit TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:10 AM
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I will agree that incels have drawn way too many conclusions from their chadfishing experiments. Male model tier dudes would not be wasting their time with with 90% of those women. It was kinda interesting five years ago to demonstrate that some guys had it super easy on OLD. But these incels have a lot of cognitive issues which cause them to completely miss the point and believe that's how the SMP really operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:14 AM
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Keep in mind what the typical woman on reddit probably looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:56 AM
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Most authentic IOIs are unconscious I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:22 PM
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I will tell this man I'm rejecting him because I don't find him sexually attractive Thing is, I've heard of women rejecting guys by straight-out saying they are not attracted, and the guy proceeds to double-down because he thinks he can change that. The niceties are more effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 08:20 PM
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Point being you should have learned the basics to attract a partner from your family and friends, without having to go to weird corners of the internet to discover the sekret knowledge. Plenty of true blue people end up fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 07:02 PM
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If I'd listened I'd probably have been some gym rat alpha douche These threads reminds me of a guy I knew in high school who was inappropriately close to his mother. He was a ripped male feminist who had some outright weird ideas about women. Like he only wanted anal sex to preserve the sanctity of the vagina (or something, I can't recall his awful logic). If mothers actually do engage their sons with this stuff, its probably just going to fuck them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 12:10 AM
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Yep, I've made this point here before, but all the normie "blue pill" advice about staying fit and dressing well and being social and etc actually IS effective. And yes, your mother should have told you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 11:15 PM
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Its an extremely successful thought exercise about how pathetic men can get. Funny how dudes here will argue completely against the redpill if they think they can score some lame point against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 11:08 PM
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Probably the arranged marriagecel crowd again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 10:23 PM
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Then he's low value guy who hangs out with incels. Of course, he doesn't really exist and this thread is a pathetic revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 08:22 PM
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There's a certain type of pussy-drying dude who thinks he's Jordon Peterson Jr or wants to drone on about shit he read in the Economist or the NY times editorials. I've also known a number of intelligent women and the last thing they want to talk about over drinks is their work. Early stage dating is not really the place for the serious stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 08:04 PM
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Yeah, it depends. But I think the distinction these guys struggle with is looking out for #1 does not make you an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 07:20 PM
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The former. The asshole is an asshole because he won't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 05:51 PM
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Nothing wrong with liking dominant and ambitious men. But the violent thug thing is Atlas and pretty much noone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 05:47 PM
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Isn't that what the red pill is attempting to teach? Or is it now just misogocels who fantasize about how Chad gets away with beating up women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:45 PM
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the guy, who has a history of pump and dumping every girl in the sorority row, beaten the shit out of couple and is degrading to the rest of his fucks, along with obnoxiousness to everyone in the room, I'm going to say this person doesn't exist and is most likely homosexual projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:22 PM
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Yeah, no, most of the super successful guys I've known are the real charming guys who treat women well (other than maybe not being monogamous). A lot of supposed redpills are still stuck in the very bluepill beta framework that "women go for assholes", because they still haven't learned how to grow a spine and develop their inner self and are instead trying to ape some very superficial qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:14 PM
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Right, and very often the NiceGuy loses his shit and proves himself to be not nice at all. I think its very hard for people to distinguish "nice" people from "good" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:04 PM
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Women have told me they wanted to wear certain clothing or have a look (versus say going into stripping), and stuffing your bra 24/7 seems weird. But obviously if their partner likes them, they're good naked too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:12 PM
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A lawyer I know said that its not the child support, its the taxes. The non-custodial parent (usually the dad) loses all the deductions and can find themselves in an unfavorable situation. Otherwise there's some x-factor in there so its hard to say what is "fair" or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:04 PM
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This will depend on the university. Where I went, the greek scene was pretty shit and it was all about house parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:46 PM
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Men here are going to answer based on their porn preferences. But when women get breast implants, its more for when their clothing is on than when its off. So I think the boob men out there would prefer the big fake ones to small real ones. So to answer, ambivalent about nose jobs, boob jobs, etc, but butt implants seem disgusting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:42 PM
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Team Man isn't looking so good in that article either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 05:12 PM
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If you are in any way expecting sympathy from women with heels and underwires and so forth, you're going to have a bad time. That reminds me of when I was dating and we went to this party. All the girls were in party dresses and heels and madeup, while the guys were mostly in sweatshirts and basketball shorts and looking like they hadn't showered. It was such a contrast. Then some of them went off to do bonghits in front of the xbox and weren't even interacting with the girls. The raw material w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 04:57 PM
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I think the only thing my dad told me was to not get anyone pregnant, so not like he was much help either. Although he probably kept my mom in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 04:46 PM
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In India, I think you have to give them the the goats to take the daughter off your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 04:18 PM
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I look at it as the reverse situation where maybe only 5-10% of women are down for ONS or completely casual. (Not talking FWB pseudo boyfriend.) Also women are almost always serial monogamists. I saw one study which indicated that highly sociosexual people mostly have sex with each other. (Too bad I can't find it again as it would be ppd-relevant.) So when RP guys talk about fucking tinder sluts, they're all probably fucking the same small group of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 04:07 PM
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Someone should gender-reverse this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 04:52 AM
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IMO it was a good article because 2/3s into it they had a critic of the study who pretty much put a bullet in it by pointing out the serious cases go through CPS, so this is really just the she-says/he-says stuff. A friend briefly practiced as a family lawyer, and apparently it is SOP to throw out claims of abuse/drugs/alcohol/whatever you can think of. So yeah, the judges don't always believe it. The MRA take is a lot more insidious and wily women can frame-up men and the system will treat them…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 04:49 AM
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Haha. My mom could totally karmawhore on femaledatingstrategy. Last person I was looking for advice from as a young guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 04:37 AM
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Psychology in particular seems especially bad where they hand out a survey to whoever is taking psych 101 and expect to draw any useful conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 04:48 PM
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UMC white women Right I think this is it, someone looked into who these obnoxious twitter feminists are and it was a lot of UMC housewives. I'm here in MILF central and its deffo a thing to keep your ass tight so hub's eyes don't start to wander, so I can see women who should be in this target market for this thing getting triggered and spewing incoherent outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 04:05 PM
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I dont really get the difference between a relationship and FWB. Never could really navigate this either. If you continue to see each other, feels will inevitably develop. Or you could be serious and just ghost each other tomorrow, so its all kinda the same. I think when people say FWB they're better off just admitting they don't want to be exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 01:23 PM
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X will you be my fake girlfriend tonight so we can be a couple too I was in my bud's wedding party, and one of the bridesmaids was interested in me, bu the geography was off. I said let's just pretend we've known each other a while and we're old boyfriends/girlfriends. Really greet weekend with my "girlfriend" who ghosted afterward. So yeah this can work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:05 AM
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A radical feminist said that femininity is all performance, and I have to say it is super hot when an educated empowered woman performs femininity. I love a woman who can tactically play the arm-candy or sex kitten. And I can see the similarities with AGP fetishes along those lines. But, I'm hooked on real vagina so never.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:31 AM
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Not at all a judgement on your cranking habits my friend. I'm just saying these are the girls that you didn't want to hookup with back in the day because they were selling their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:59 AM
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Maybe its just my inner beta, but that song pumps me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:47 AM
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Tumblr was fascinating because it was mostly women posting 10 second clips, so that men could "get" what the woman was looking for, in a language men understood (porn). It was *way* more metaphoric than literal. Like totally abstract and memeic BDSM. Very different from the incel setup where the pornstar happens to be the guy's stepsister.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 05:15 AM
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You're not going to fuck her anyway so what's your point? I've been with a bunch of girls who could have done porn. Seriously, you just need to be young and fit and not have weird tits. When I was young guy, I thought porn was entirely for dirty old men, because these kinda girls were everywhere. The girls who go into porn are mostly escort/sex-workers who are trying to "build a brand". Powerwash off all the makeup and they're your average community college student.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:48 AM
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Also x2: I work in this area, and "visitor" means someone loaded a single webpage once. It is a meaningless stat without a time period attached to it. Women might look at porn once a year, guy might look 5x a day, they are both "visitors". Porn viewers use incognito and clear cookies. This company owns 90% of porn sites so maybe they have the secret sauce to ID users, but I kinda doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:11 AM
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He didn't pass at all and looked like a petite busty chick with a mustache. But straight girls thought he was hot, and I had to admit I'd fuck a man in a woman's body. But mostly I thought the TRP-style performative masculinity was really interesting & funny. Like I'm a man now, and I got a harem of hot bitches, get in line and know your place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:59 AM
2

I don't buy this urban legend. Worst bj I ever got was from a bigger girl, best was from a recovered anorexic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:24 AM
0

Agreed x2. Dating within your league is way easier than dating outside of it, up or down. Less attractive women will shit-test the fuck out of you even if you do like them. Know your league, gents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:21 AM
3

M/hetero/late30s - MtF no, but I knew a FtM who was super cute. And my "100% straight" girlfriend agreed despite manlet. Guy was only into girls though and was supposedly a real player.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:10 AM
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Women do look at porn sometimes, but I don't trust this company's stats or their "for women" category or anything about this. Edit: also reddit shows me ads for women's clothing presumably because I post in PPD, so shows you how well they can determine a viewer's gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:54 AM
2

You don't think the internet is full of cumbrained fiends that would not be functional in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:09 AM
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Probably not just the porn itself, but guys go way down the rabbit hole of furry, hentai, dickgirls, penis humilation, etc etc etc and become useless to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:18 PM
1

also bash their wives trying to garner sympathy. Women who want to step out do the same thing. Almost like they're looking for more of a therapist than a lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:44 PM
2

Northern california, among whites/asians under 35 probably > 50% are physically attractive. There is sorta a glut of 7s I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:24 PM
6

someone to grow old with Doubtful, sounds like the recipe for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:41 PM
2

> sex is insignificant or transactional I haven't known many women who view sex this way. And the ones who do tend to be poly or sex workers or etc, and would probably not object to the guy sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:28 PM
1

I doubt it. But a lot of women have been the "other woman", so they know how this goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:25 PM
1

1950s was the beginning of the sexual revolution NOT portrayed on old TV reruns. Actual 1950s was the beginning of the sexual revolution, freeform jazz music, and beatnik poetry about fucking young boys in the ass. All those old "50s housewives", like half of them got divorced and the other half became swingers. Lol, no bluepill outcome ever happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 08:21 AM
1

Being no big fan of masturbation, let me warn you that you'll need to be very DTF.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:23 AM
0

Yeah, its more the people and presentation than whatever kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 11:21 PM
0

I can't but I suppose once you get into satisfying other men, you'll be able to come out of the closet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 11:20 PM
2

People with more of a sociosexual bent will find it easier to cheat, but whether it makes them more likely who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 10:35 PM
1

And congrats to you on your impending cuck fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 09:44 PM
2

I suspect the only reason TRP was banned was because it was mentioned in some mainstream articles about incels. Otherwise reddit doesn't give a shit unless it makes them look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 09:33 PM
2

Spoiler: I know this because I got with them after they dumped their porncuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:45 PM
1

He doesn't say women swiped on the same 14% of guys so this doesn't really prove the point you are trying to make. Also I imagine women can set up a date with vast majority of guys they match with, so obviously they swipe fewer people just out of time considerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:36 PM
2

Its just true in the abstract that woman's fantasies are interesting while men's fantasies seem skeevy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:32 PM
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Nah, I've known young women who were attractive enough to do porn themselves who had to dump their gooner porn-addicted boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 08:24 PM
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Mostly because I find it to be gross and disgusting. I look at the front page of pornhub and its like 90% 🤮. This is not the naked booby stuff that guys used to look at. I can't even imagine the guys who consume that stuff on a regular basis can have a normal sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 06:41 PM
1

+1 to female orbiter strategy - I know a few couples where it worked out like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:11 PM
2

Apparently a lot of guys lose their cool or ghost immediately after getting blueballed, so yeah it actually does show their true colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:06 PM
2

Yep. I guess its okay if its your favorite player from when you were 10 and you only wear it to football-related activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 04:15 AM
0

Yes, and this was the incorrect one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 03:21 AM
0

Inaccurate, it was 27% in the last year, not since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 01:48 AM
2

Yeah, years ago I talked to a recruiter about Google, and he was saying post some outdoorsy pix because they were looking for ppl who were "well rounded".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:30 PM
0

Nah, get a decent job where they pay you to have kids and all your single male incel coworkers subsidize the insurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:26 PM
2

A lot of dudes just literally don't care if they any good or not. Red pillers even brag about how little they care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:04 PM
1

Saw this in my early 30s social circles, where about half the guys married whoever they were shacked-up and the other half started dating women under 25. There was some commentary about "the girlfriends" but in a few years nobody cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:52 PM
1

You can still collect unemployment benefits after refusing a job offer, but only if the job being offered is not considered "suitable employment." In California this is either not the law or they don't do anything to enforce it. They ask you some "did you look for a job Y/N" question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:51 AM
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Zero tolerance. I'd even tell women on dates that I'm no drama-llama, and sometimes they were like "teehee, I used to to tool my ex that way". I read RP stuff and the woman "shit tests" and the guy comes up with the perfectly timed A&A zinger comeback, and I think that seems really tiring, just don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:19 AM
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I looked at the adultery sub once, and the women were peacocking all over the place to get thirsty dudes to flood their DMs. (which they later would complain about.) Also there was a bunch of really obvious dollymadison internet marketing from "women". In any case I really doubt cHaD is finding his sidehoes or posting about it on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:58 AM
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Had to read this a couple times to figure out there are two people named Banerjee. tldr indians confirmed for being rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:38 AM
1

affirmative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 05:31 AM
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Yeah, the better stories were from craigslist now that I think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:53 AM
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Okay, this was a long time ago, but this woman was just listing off her husband requirements, including how many vacations we'd take and how often I had to buy her flowers, blahblahblah. So I made some crack about looking for someone who really loves sucking dick, and then she said I better love eating pussy too. So I was like hey, let's go back to my place, but she got pissed and left instead. Only reason I remember this is because we worked together a few years later and she really didn't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:05 AM
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this, except I talked myself into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:11 AM
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Yeah, there was one of those crazy shooters and people who posted "but he had a girlfriend, how could he be an incel?" were getting modded-down to -950. Most redditors are very very dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:09 AM
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Yeah, having a girlfriend is great, having two girlfriends is even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:36 PM
0

It sounds like a boomerism like "congress critters".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 10:45 PM
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This goes both ways and if you're not balding with a sparetire women often don't know how old you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 08:51 PM
2

Incels are full of shit and 99% of them are mentalcels. They say "Look at our king Elliot, he was the perfect gentleman and couldn't attract girls because he was short and hapa." Meanwhile back in reality the guy was very mentally ill and his entire autobiography is him going around acting creepy as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:54 PM
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Chad dumped me for a girl who doesn't live in a pigsty and knows how to cook food REEEEEE.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:16 PM
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I do not deny tech has a lot of BB's. I deny it has a lot of incels. BB is an insult thrown around in these parts, but I know a lot of guys who married their 20-something GF after cohabitating for a couple years. Big difference between that and the guy who couldn't get a date until he was 32 and female preference switched. Otherwise, yeah, most programmers are norman j. normie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:02 PM
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Its really not all that compared to pussy, and you will get shit on your dick (if you're beta enough to care). But sometimes your woman drinks too much and has it coming and later tells you how happily ravaged she feels. On the other hand Dr Drew says you're headed to diapertown. So the tldr is it is painful and humiliating and that's why (some) girls like it, but otherwise drill that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:15 AM
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Yeah, I've heard some stories. Daughter, your period is irregular, you must take these pills. Years later: My guy is really sweet and maybe I wouldn't mind getting pregnant... Holy shit how did I end up with a balding manlet!1!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:04 AM
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Yeah, his point was you don't have to do shit to reciprocate if some fag wants to suck your dick, just whip it out. A buddy used to buy weed from a homo and the guy was always like "please let me suck it, I'll let you watch hetero porn, please...." I'm just saying, RP 80/20 theory confirmed by gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:59 AM
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I don’t believe in hormonal BC, I think it’s unnatural and subverts gods will. Also subverts biological will to fuck alfalfa males imo. Dunno why you trigger guys here, if you could contain your internet crazy, you seem like a total waifu. Hope you find your Christian Chad who wants to breed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:48 AM
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Different area because women will be halfway aware of body language and etc. I don;t think they ever got it, because they would say "what if she shit-tests you about being a player?" and its like you fucking tards, she's actually observing you trying to be a player.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:30 AM
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Yeah, don't ask me about tinder. But "you're my bro's ex's cousin" stuff is the card you hold until you're interested in LTR possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:24 AM
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Mildly related, but I used to hang with this gaybro who was always trying to sell me in on it. He was a huge fat fuck too, but apparently that is a type. (later he gymmaxxed) So he'd be like "Oh yeah! I can get on the internet and 20 minutes later I'm getting my dick sucked! And no stinky fishflaps oozing mucus eeww gross!" And I'd say yeah, I have to bring over some wine and have some foreplay on the couch first. And he would be like "damn foiled again!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:16 AM
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At our age, n-count mostly comes down to how long we were locked-up in LTRs. When I got into my 30s, I always liked how 30-something women dropped the coy virgin act and got right down to fuck, because they knew most guys were long past caring. Unless she was a sex worker or a professional groupie or something it wouldn't bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:02 AM
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Yes, you are hunting for rape victims on India public transport.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:50 AM
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I(m38) Okay, I can understand why young guys worry about this stuff, but wtf man you are in your late 30s, everyone else has been banging for 20 years. See a fucking therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:47 AM
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Hormonal BC fucks with women's instincts so you're smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:42 AM
1

What's obvious? What's the offensive part to you? Here's what I used to argue with these guys: If you go up and start talking to a woman, the other women around noticed this. So if the first one shuts you down, you're pretty much done there because no woman wants to be your 2nd choice. Shotgun "go approach 100 women" thing doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:26 AM
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Off topic, but these comics are supposedly from that r\hapas guy who one of the most completely insane incels on the internet who spends all day posting cuckporn and AMWF material. When the Isla Vista thing happened, I was thinking it had to be that hapa guy, but nooo it turned out there was more than one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:05 AM
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not supposed to != can't but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:50 AM
2

Nah, if anything these women started looksmaxing to make sure they weren't the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:49 AM
4

People hate PUAs mostly just because they're annoying pussy beggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 11:02 PM
0

the best woman ALWAYS have a "Bf" You're absolutely right about this, but they will hide this fact and most men might not ever find out until long after the branch swing has been completed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 10:32 PM
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Yeah, this might be surprising to the thirsty wursties here, but I know of some relationship breakdowns where the root cause was the man was not sexing the woman enough. Especially if you mix in porn use or some weird fetish stuff, the woman just loses every atom of respect for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 10:25 PM
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Right, I remember sometimes girls would do the "show me your porn" thing and be kinda surprised it was like a few gone wild type selfies and arty photos of japanese women. Hardcore porn is disgusting and I've watched more with women than on my own, so we are out there. (I would be DQ'd by n-count tho.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 10:17 PM
2

As a third party, I think you can notice IOIs that are maybe not that obvious to the two people talking. Even if they're not *really* flirting, you can judge their interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:43 PM
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They are all thin and a have a good rack, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:16 PM
1

Srsly, I own an apartment near the San Francisco Castro District, and regular life-n-times are like 200x less gay than the typical PPD incel poster. Incels would blow the reg gay guys off the street here with the magnitude of their homo gayness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:29 AM
1

You imagine you're wearing the dress in this you hugehomo jerkoff bottom porn faggotron. All new posts on ppd purge are extremely gay right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:20 AM
1

Top 3 PPD posts pure fagfuel. "Incels" lol, more like bathhouse leftover fuckmeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:17 AM
1

Nobody cares about fag shit. China explained by their small genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 07:15 AM
1

I watched 30 seconds of this, and it is gay porn with some mannish old woman in the bottom role.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 06:56 AM
2

Happened to tons of guys I know and IDK probably myself. Classic Cope. You hookup with some girl and your dick isn't doing it for her, or its 4AM and she's just pity fucking you because the night is over. So they whine about being sweet boys who just want a gf because slutburger #453 didn't call them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 06:43 AM
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My mom is one of those ultra anal neat freak type women, so its probably never or +3500 she was humping trees in the backyard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 06:35 AM
5

Real Alphas only eat bacon and eggs. Or better yet homemade garlic bagel breakfast sammiches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 05:55 AM
1

Nah, his girlfriend was a post-wall hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 12:45 AM
2

The good news is this means your son will never be a chad, so its probably your kid. Raise BilllyBeta Jr to be nice and respectful by only letting him watch disney movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 12:44 AM
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Elliot Rodger loved throwing liquids at women, said it drove the chicks wild in his autobiography.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:44 PM
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Confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 08:42 PM
2

Going to a sex club with a bunch of weird skanky people is not appealing and every time I've been in one of those places its been like puke. However we've been to some private parties with people I know, and tbh they were mostly R rated. Otherwise just the college thing where you have a few couples fucking in a basement. Also I get the feeling that I know a lot of swingers... and I try to avoid certain subjects with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:02 PM
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*suffers anxiety, better smoke a bunch of weed* *sits around obsessing over stuff and getting paranoid*
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:09 PM
1

Yes, not my type at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 05:42 PM
1

marriageisking is like 3 posts down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 05:26 PM
2

They want western culture to adapt to them not the other way around. Right. A big part of this is not exactly about their lack of success in the western SMP, but the fact that the women from immigrant cultures tend to assimilate (its the American way) and do not follow the old rules. They are sitting around waiting for momma to set them up with someone, which leads to their fixation on betabux and chad widows and etc. Rather than trying adapt themselves, they're always bitching on ppd that nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 05:17 PM
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Signed. I've been reading these rp field reports for years and they get ZERO REPEAT BUSINESS because their dick game is complete shit. Plus if you're halfway ass decent this is the kinda thing girls rumor monger about far and wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:27 PM
1

IMO a lot of women only identify as feminists because its the only mainstream ideology which justifies their sexual shit. Then they get the dom bf and turn into RPWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:18 PM
3

The M in STEM stands for medicine. Just say computer science.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 10:02 PM
1

Good pelvis, PIV orgasmic, and a touch of anorexia athletica.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:58 PM
1

Pretty much women everywhere, they love to chat about how they pissed their pants or some guy shot jizz into their eyeball or how cheese is coming out of their cunt. At least it is lived experience unlike the men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 09:39 PM
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nah, they are too busy fugging girls with debts and tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 08:45 PM
1

Half agreed. Tons of asian women around here and the white wimmin are mostly thin and fit. Latinos fat though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 08:24 PM
1

roosh was always the worst one of those guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 08:19 PM
2

right, but "met online" includes social media, which is mostly just extended social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 08:16 PM
7

I don't see any chads hassling women for having debts and tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 08:10 PM
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Go for it and blackpill more men, so they stop hounding women in bars, harassing them on the street or thinking hot young women want their gross old dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 07:51 PM
2

Always reminds me of my hs girlfriend's dad, who seemed a little too happy to see me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 07:28 PM
2

How about nerd girls who clean up nicely and look good in the club?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 06:39 PM
2

One who is aware of human sexual selection and acknowledges it and its role in society? I remember sorta "redpilling" an old girlfriend about evo psych 101 stuff like "man want to spread seed far and wide. woman want best seed and man for baby", and it just totally blew her mind. Nobody had ever explained it to her that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 04:15 AM
1

These guys aren't really RP in the TRP sense but posture as such to go after RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:10 AM
3

Well AF/BB a real thing that men should be aware of, but I don't think it describes most people's dating experience. More common for the wife to lose attraction and the husband to become a beta plowhorse. But asian/indian guys on TRP discuss how their parents raised them to be good BBs, and how this does not cut it in the western SMP, even with the asian/indian girls. And I think that's where a lot of the "chad analed my future wife" stuff comes from. So yeah much more so on reddit TRP/PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:48 AM
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I suppose, but that was the stereotype. From wikipedia: "Titanic has flaws, but for all its legacy, it's better than its middlebrow reputation would have you believe. It's a great movie for 15-year-old girls, but that doesn't mean it's not a great movie for everyone else too."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:43 AM
0

Titanic was a huge teenage date movie, so makes sense they hired a pretty-boy with teen girl appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 12:40 AM
2

Had a similar experience when I used to try to give advice back on old seduction forums. I'd state it like a normal person, and then one of them would come along and re-phrase using their autist jargon. That's when I realized for a lot of these guys its more of a circlejerk over internet status than getting laid. To answer the question, I don't know but have lurked PPD on-and-off over the years, but never felt like registering for an account until they came out with the reddit redesign.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 12:33 AM
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Dual-mating strategy (AFBB) is encouraged by our culture It really is not and the entire model of Western dating and mating is based around love and sexual attraction. Women who "settle for betabux" are considered losers or golddiggers. The reason AFBB gets so much play on TRP is because the sub is full of Indians and other Easterners where their arranged marriage system is explicitly BetaBuxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 07:44 PM
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IMO TRP frequently conflates "bad beta" with "good beta" characteristics, e.g. submissive pandering friendzone behavior or trying to bribe women to open their legs, versus say status signaling provisioning ability or treating the people around you well. Its why women don't think at all in terms of alpha vs beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 04:21 PM
1

Is too! Is not! etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 04:15 PM
1

9 years yow, you are only on this planet for so long, divorce rape my ass instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 03:30 PM
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You guys constantly confuse n-count with sexual activity, people in relationships have way more sex than people fucking around. Anecdotally, I was curious about my libido so I asked around and I'd say attractive couples fuck a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 03:25 PM
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Hey yeah, I'll admit there was some point in my late 30s when I just disappeared from hot young (<25) girls radars. I have a full head of hair and am in better shape than I was 10 years ago, and women still say I look young for my age. It doesn't matter, you get too old eventually! That's neither red nor blue, just the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 05:44 AM
5

You sound like you're the type of guy who should be looking into polyamory instead of RP style plate-slinging. There's tons of women out there who are "sorta compatible" and can add value to to your life. I did this for a while and it really evolved my whole mentality about LTRs. My take is WORST thing you can be is a pussy-beggar. And "no-strings casual" is a PITA to do in the long term, so that means you're constantly at work begging begging begging for pusy. Plus I like women and if they're f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 05:11 AM
2

Since you're OP, let me ask you, have you ever "dated" for an extended period of time (outside of hs/college)? Have you estimated amount of time and effort it would require to spin plates for the rest of your life, and how much this would distract from your "mission"? RP Lie #0 is saying LTR is "hard mode". Reality: LTR is soo easy that people become super complacent. "Spinning Plates" is hard mode. There's a time and place for it, and I've done it, but lets not pretend these divorcee MTOGOWcels…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 04:36 AM
4

Perhaps true, but IMO a never-married 36yo is already looking very suspect. And that backside of that RP chart is total BS. Male wall is late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 04:23 AM
3

Right, women play the game because they might come up as the winner. Once its been confirmed the house never pays-out, the customers go somewhere else. I used to know this guy who was like your stereotypical 40 yo player. The guy had fantastic game, but it didn't seem to be working with the young hotties anymore. (Boozy bimbos in their 30s, sure.) IMO TRP is really pushing it with "men peak at 36" stuff, more like men start hitting the wall around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 03:39 AM
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But here is something that many redpillers don't seem to understand: even if this marriage doesn't last forever (divorce, death etc.), it will still have been worth it because during the time that it lasted, it was absolutely amazing. I've always felt that way about serious relationships. Something I've noticed as well. Manosphere guys will be all salty like "I was married 15 years..." And I'm thinking alright, how many of those years were the good happy times? 12? 5? The honeymoon, I hope? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 03:30 AM
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Resistance to marriage is a real thing which goes far beyond TRP, men tend to be very cautious, as they should be. Except instead of spinning plates they're shacked-up with their perma-girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:38 PM
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"Rules for thee, but not for me" type shit. Yep, very common among poly people from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:30 PM
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Generally I think like attracts like. But I was seeing a girl who was very attractive and sweet, but not bright at all, and I knew it would never work out. Also saw a graduate student who was probably way smarter than I am, and we made a point not to have those pretentious type conversations. So I'd say undergraduate level IQ is fine for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:18 PM
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Know of a couple middle class single moms where the dad situation isn't publicly known, and presumed to be a "a guy from a bar" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:00 PM
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Interesting that a woman asked this. I think a lot of women are alienated from their sex drive and reproductive instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:52 PM
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I've read this twice and she never says she's getting fucked. She's uploading photos to a fetish forum and getting a positive response from various incel gooners, and flicking her bean as a result. Believable IMO. But there's no chad at the end of the rainbow of this story.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 06:25 AM
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Its a thing which matters in the long run. When you're 20, nobody cares, but if you're in your 30s and don't have your shit together you're going to radiate loserdom. And a lot of women only give the alpha fux to guys with bux, so that's the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 04:40 PM
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That there's not a real difference between 2 and 9 makes it a non-issue for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 09:01 PM
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Arranged marriage betabux > whiney internet currycels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:13 PM
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Tall native-born Indian guys seem to do just fine...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:12 PM
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That's if we're taking mean and not median. Its median, but most redditors took the shortbus to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 04:05 PM
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Look around for girls who only suck dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 04:00 PM
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Yeah, there were tons of sluts back in my day too. The study I referred to was based on a personality test given in the 2010s btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:12 AM
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More likely the studies are correct, and you're just brainfucked on porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 12:30 AM
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No doubt, but social media and OLD existed. My point is it wasn't a huge source of angst for most 20-something men I knew. Someone would come along and they almost always did. (And maybe social and OLD is just exacerbating this by drowning people in what they can't have.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 10:50 PM
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Yeah, I once saw a study about "highly sociosexual" people (aka sluts), and iirc it was 7% of women and 5% of men. Mostly they hookup with each other too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 10:19 PM
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Yeah, I was thinking about this. When I was in my 20s, most of the guys in my social circle were decent dudes, socially outgoing, fit, outdoors activities, real jobs, etc. The worst you could say about any of them is they smoked too much weed. Anyway, they're generally 'above average'. But if they broke off with whatever girl they were seeing, they were generally dry for a while and it could be a year or two before they found another girlfriend. If you asked them "did you have sex in the last ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 08:57 PM
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Here's my CMV: I'm a little older than my wife thought, and she's a little younger than I thought, and in reality nobody cares at all. Maybe my ex-gf said something once.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 08:32 PM
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Not saying its common, but "women are wonderful and never ever fuck married men" is total bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 08:20 PM
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True, this sub is full of weirdo gender warrior men who defend male collective faith and honor, when they aren't posting about how they personally are complete shitheels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:24 PM
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Hah, that must be why that rus789 guy is always posting about hymens on here. All part of the KGB masterplan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 04:16 PM
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Nah, because according to men currently posting on this sub, it has been great that they can be full time porn gooners and not have to deal with those pesky womans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:58 PM
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Nah certain girls are into the side-chick role, like all the fun and doesn't have to pick up the socks. Or they're into cucking some other bitch. Not exclusive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:36 PM
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There's probably way more self-cuckolding porn addicts than there are actual cheaters. But yeah, guys will get a happy ending in the champagne room and consider it "not cheating".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:21 PM
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Not at all dude. Any guy with a woman who is resorting to porn is justifiably going to get cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:12 PM
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In some alternate reality I married my high school girlfriend and we lived happily ever after, but actually I didn't want to move to Purdue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:54 PM
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Nah, women would rather deal with alpha male bullshit than deal with beta male masturbators. Take the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:26 PM
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There's some weird TERF trolls who have nothing better to do but make manosphere parody subs. (because most dykes are dead bedroomed lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:23 PM
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Yeah, there's stuff you wanna do that's probably illegal, so you gotta have that trust factor established.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:11 PM
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Yeah, you nailed it. I used to argue with these guys on PU forums, they would scrounge around for occasional ONSs and brag about how they stopped caring the moment after they nutted. But the truth was probably the girls looked like Mack trucks, and these guys actually had a very low sex drive and were only in it because they had a chip on their shoulder about their N-count. The other side of this is being the designated dick, where the girl looks at her stupid purple motorized rabbit and decides…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:08 PM
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The thing about ONSs is if they're crappy you don't see each other again, but if it was good, she'll come around for more and its no longer an ONS. I would assume that any guy who is successfully doing the casual/FWB "plate-spinning" thing is good in the sack because why else would the woman even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 11:51 PM
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Yeah, and even if not technically women's only, a lot of studios and classes are 95% yoga pants. I used to live in a building that was full of these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 07:16 PM
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Definitely football, but also the whole American culture around superheros and Schwarzenegger etc as role models for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 07:12 PM
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When I was a young guy I believed the whole nonsense about "women love guys who show emotions and vulnerability". Until one time I was doing some emo dump on a girl and I could just the disgust rising in her face. Then I realized I was doing this shit performatively because "it seems romantic".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:17 PM
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Yeah, you notice. I think a lot of Chad types love the fake tit look, like the stick woman who mysteriously has Ds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:49 PM
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high maintenance as in emotional women who require a lot of relationship work, no. high maintenance as in does all the beauty rituals, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:41 PM
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I knew a lot of guys who were lifting at that age, so at least where I came from it was never a big secret that girls like muscles. Also the girls were doing gymnastics, running, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:38 PM
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Yeah, I know what RP says, but they are a bunch of NiceGuy friendzone fags. I just don't buy that positive qualities make it harder to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:50 PM
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I had this FWB with big boobs, and rando older women would come up and just grope the fuck out of her like "ooh are those real?" It happened so often she was kinda immune to it, but I was like jezuz, have some boundaries ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:48 PM
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Reminds me the first few times I was hanging with my wife, she was wearing some fruity perfume, and I was kinda like "lol stacy wannabe". But I'm super sensitive to chemical smells and mentioned that to her. And it wasn't long until I was like I wanna feast on her neck like I'm Dracula, she is just delicious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:58 AM
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Nah, it is some apocryphal tale about the 33 year old virgin engineer marrying the town bicycle. Not relevant to anyone who got around in their 20s. The more you get your shit together, the hotter you are. Otherwise "take care of her" -> woman speak for will do the right thing if he fails to pull out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:15 AM
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Okay, I can understand if you're unemployed or have some red flag, women will put you in the fuckzone. But otherwise they're the only idjits who believe displays of wealth and status make it harder for men to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:09 AM
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lol, I remember this tyler guy posting insanely long stream of consciousness rants to obscure forums like 20 years ago. Surprised he's even still around -- he must be teaching middle aged guys how to pickup divorcees at the yacht club.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:06 AM
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This definitely goes both ways and some women have just smelled and tasted really good to me (and not just talking about pussy), and you get the feeling you're chemically compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 11:23 PM
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Agreed, dating/hookup culture is extremely bourgeois.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:41 PM
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Agreed, dating/hookup culture is extremely bourgeois.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:41 PM
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Because its a bad faith argument where they have to conjure up some 45 yo baldster with a spare tire, rather than the hotshot 32 yo guy who is dating younger women instead of who he "should".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:31 PM
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"transient" women I've had some crazy flings with women who were planning on leaving town, about to graduate, and so on. If there's some sort of time box, women will go full alfa fux mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:17 PM
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Definitely true, in fact is probably more about the cool shit than the $$$ itself. Also the whole lack of angst over buying concert tickets or whatever is attractive. But on an instinctual level, we're all trying to make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:04 PM
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If you're an adult, nobody gives a fuck. Not really true, which is why being discreet is super important. Let other people spread the rumors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:42 PM
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Yeah, this is why I recommend that younger guys just get a girlfriend and bang her 200 times. ONS sex is often really shitty even if you know what you're doing, and if all you have is a hookup here or there, you don't have much to work off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:25 PM
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So shit together + still hot > chaotic shit + young hot This is why the whole "betabux" thing is kinda silly. Attractive guy + Resources -> Make babies with him. Some RPs argue that provider traits make you less attractive, that's not my experience, its is the guys who have nothing else to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:20 PM
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I think you underestimate how easy it is to spin plates. Agreed. "Spinning plates" makes it sound way more edgy than it actually is. Just non-exclusively date as many women as you can, while screening hard for LTR compatibility. The number one mistake most men make is taking the first woman who comes along. And yeah, marriage-oriented women are off the market quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 03:37 AM
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All I've had so far is 6 one night stands Get better in bed - if girls aren't coming back for seconds, it wasn't very good (or she was so drunk she can't remember). If she comes back for thirds, congrats you now have a "plate" or a fuckbuddy in normal person speak. (Sex God method or whatever else in the sidebar.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 03:22 AM
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Shut down scammy internet dating. PPD relevant: FTC Sues Owner of Online Dating Service Match.com for Using Fake Love Interest Ads To Trick Consumers into Paying for a Match.com Subscription
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:43 PM
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why the fuck would you would get that from "downtown office"? stop thinking about 13 yo girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:24 PM
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Sorry but its true, "red pill" was fine when it was super obscure websites, expose it to redditards and you get a bunch of mega incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:21 PM
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I'm remote today, but if I was downtown I would have seen at least 263 fuckable young women just on my way in to the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:20 PM
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My stereotype of the typical redditor is a fat kid who takes the short bus to school, but doesn't know why, and watches porn on his phone all day. I'm fine with prohibiting "red pill" knowledge to these people. If they can't navigate off facebook.com or reddit.com, that's their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:13 PM
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Agreed, it doesn't make any sense that the admins would send them a heads-up about this rather than just shutting-down the sub. If TRP is still around next week it is officially a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:04 PM
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GC has much bigger enemies than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:59 PM
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Expansive definition of "bullying" would close all the stalker subs, eg TheBluePill, IncelTears, etc., perhaps SubredditDrama, Drama, SRS, broad range of other circlejerk subs. And in my humble opinion, reddit would be less of a shithole without those places so they should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:44 PM
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Here you go, Disco Platypus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgPgavmY99U
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:40 AM
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Weird that Reddit would send them a heads-up but the sub is still there, so lets see if this actually happens and they aren't just trying to drive subscribers on their website.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:36 AM
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Only red pillers don't do it. IMO they can be delusional about their "plates". I had a FWB thing going with an ex-girlfriend. As soon as she thought some guy was spinning her, she was right back in my bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 10:45 PM
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Yeah, but its not that he's married, its that his wife knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 10:23 PM
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There's a minority of women out there looking at you like ooo-do-me-next, but for the most part no. (and yes I know what an IOI looks like.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 10:22 PM
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To be clear that comment wasn't aimed at anyone on purplepill, where debating that sort of thing is the point. I've just found it useless to engage with woman studies 101 anger phase-type feminists, you can't *really* play gotcha with them, but I've had some interesting discussion with the more academically-inclined types. And most of the manosphere's take is down-right embarrassing to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 04:43 PM
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Eh, my rule is to never discuss feminism with anyone who hasn't taken a 300-level university course and knows what they're talking about. Otherwise its an identity movement, substance immaterial. Either that or go full troll and read some Dworkin and argue the radfem perspective, but I guess you can't tell your stepdaughter she should be eating obese dyke puss.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:46 AM
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My mom was a SAHM, and she and my dad had an explicit deal. The key is she always kept her RN license current, so if she thought cooking and cleaning was a bad deal she could have been back at work within a week. It is certainly a ton of work with little kids, but the payoff is the long game. When we got to be teenagers and moved out of the house, SAHM lifestyle is EZ mode. The worst case for men is when their wife decides to change careers to some bullshit job, like blogger or dog therapist (tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:27 AM
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Reminds me - there's this 30 yo girl at work who is in total husband-hunting mode. She was asking me what golf clubs I went to, like she was just go hang out there and get picked-up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:05 AM
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Probably true esp for us hackers, but it is a male bonding activity. Which video games can be too, but they don't get you out of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 03:01 AM
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That, plus she just removed her "This is what a feminist looks like" tshirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:50 AM
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Well, a lot of women will give you a blowjob, but if she makes you cookies she must really like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 02:16 AM
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I think 95/5 would imply a very different "sexual strategy".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 11:48 PM
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Agreed there's no problem with games as a casual hobby. But video games are specifically designed to create a false sense of accomplishment and achievement, and contain all sorts of status markers which are only relevant to other gamers. Golf is usually a social activity, and one of the few sports where older men can be competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 11:43 PM
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Casual sex probably distributes by pareto as well. Yeah, I don't think so. Its probably way fewer that 5% of guys who have regular casual sex. There's obviously some power law with Wilt Chamberlin n=10000 on one end, and then your frat star Chad who hooks-up here and there, and then it drops way off and you're talking about guys who occasionally harpoon fatties. 20% is both too low and too high. The median guy is your "average frustrated chump" who gets dates and girlfriends but has long dry spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 08:11 PM
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But between two similar women the one with the lower n-count wins In terms of vetting factors, it is pretty far down the list IMO. (My crazy BPD girl experience was her n=2. But I suspect I was just the beginning of her run of terror.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 10:47 PM
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Or you could just do it with your girlfriends like I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:00 PM
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Right, think more "UMC successful" type guys with attractive younger stacy wives. Wouldn't speculate individually, but that type tends to be very low n.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:09 PM
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Maybe? All these porn sites are just trying to upsell men to camgirl services. There's a demand for real orgasms (or at least convincing fakes).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:03 PM
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Older guy ... When I was young, I was super-interested in anything sex-related and went up in the stacks to read the books by Kinsey, Masters-Johnson, random old books by Cosmo, My Secret Garden, and so on. IIRC M-J said ~25% of women were having regular buttsex in the 1960s. (Admittedly maybe for for BC reasons.) But lmfo, on PPD this is something nobody imagined before pornhub. I'm probably not old enough for this, but BDSM and etc all go back long before internet porn ruled the incel roost. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:40 AM
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Yeah, he got ripped. Best post explains how the Heidi Klum alpha female actually spared this guy's ass socially by turning the joke around on his oatmeal face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:23 AM
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They cleaned-up their act once they realized everyone lumped them in with incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:57 AM
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Interesting. Pickup advice was to never offer to buy a drink. I wonder if it is a dying convention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:32 AM
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That's why it is stupid shit to worry about about, and turns guys into those incels who post self-cuckolding porn stories on PPD. I did all sorts of kinky shit with my high school girlfriend, anyone over a certain age has been around the block a few times. The smart guys marry the kinky hoes instead of posting threads like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:44 PM
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I don't know if types are really a thing for most men. If anything men have a thing for variety like you dated an X so why not go for a Y instead. Either that or my type is "nice ass" and that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:28 PM
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"Sex is only a big deal if you're not having it." -- Albert Einstein or someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 09:29 PM
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Instinctual as in its unconscious, I'm not thinking ewww or whatever,
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 09:09 PM
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Not sure, perhaps some instinctual bros-before-hoes thing, I just lose any interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:46 PM
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Single - maybe 2.5 years. Celibate, maybe 6 months, but it felt really dry when you're only having an ONS here or there or girls ghost after 2 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:41 PM
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How you treat people, what you're like sexually, and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:30 PM
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Not "some dude I know", but once a woman has been with a friend of mine, she's just off my mental list.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:29 PM
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white sharia One thing I've learned from PPD is the guys posting this stuff ain't white (for the most part). This stuff is just reagular old sharia from guys who have transplanted into an incomparable culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:35 PM
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She's right that a lot of men have some sort of madonna-whore complex, and women play the madonna to reel them in. But other dudes want the girl who is a whore for them, so it is simply not true that men don't marry kinky hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:24 PM
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Even though most relationships end up failing anyway, that is a Yow statistic. I'm aware of relationships which ended over this directly or indirectly. If a woman ever gets the feeling her man is choosing porn over coming on to her, he is fucking dead in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:02 PM
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Yes, and its not just only that these people exist, but there's a rumor trade about you that extends to people you barely know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:48 PM
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When inexperienced guys discuss their kinks its often really weird stuff that only exists in hentai or whatever comic porn. They are dooming themselves to inceldom by cranking it to stuff that they could never do in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:24 PM
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Yeah, when I was a teenager I read every sex manual and FAQ and resource I could get my hands on, even those feminist girl books, and I think it helped quite a bit. But then you go on TRP and its like "Hey dudes, these hoes love to be choke-fucked!" and its like nooo dude, you're talking to a bunch of virgins here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:22 PM
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I assume most couples work out this stuff early on in the honeymoon phase... I just don't get "we've been married 7 years, why no bondage and anal?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 03:56 PM
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I've never bought a random woman a drink. IDK if other guys still do this, it seems like something from old movies. I've also seen women just say thanks and leave with the drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 03:43 PM
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I had a girlfriend who rarely wore makeup ... and guys were orbiting and hitting on her all the time. I think a lot of guys genuinely like the more natural look.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 05:39 PM
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TBH, it sounds like she's playing stupid girl games to try hook this guy, so who knows if she's really an asshole (or really submissive or what).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 04:32 PM
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Yeah, me too. Women have called me a good guy while I was being a total reprobate. Its a character judgement, not some moral assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 03:04 PM
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Day old thread, but there was one pickup artist who posted his spreadsheets and pretty much single-handedly killed the whole thing. IIRC he was a trust fund male model who went to Harvard and spent all day gaming in Manhattan. He converted 11% of his numbers to lays, which means that his success of saying "hi" was like around 1-2%. My take is is this stuff is all tactical, nobody can just walk around and "get lucky" using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 04:39 AM
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i think all male porn stars do in fact have sex with men, lol right, they are all gay prostitutes. Reddit is so stupid they think "porn star" is an actual job title. Porn pays shit and these ppl are all whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 04:08 AM
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You should get with some high-n manho then. I hear these guys tend to be good in the sack.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 06:26 PM
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I know of relationships which ended because the guy was lower libido and was not initiating sex, leaving the woman to feel undesired. And I see comments on reddit where guys say "we have a lot of sex ... once a week!" So yeah maybe some guys out there are not super high drive. But from my perspective its pretty normal for a 20-something guy to have sex with his girlfriend almost everytime he sees her, that's just part of the deal. Obviously guys want more than just sex, and fortunately there's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:47 PM
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Aren't you the "chewed gum" person? Either there is two different azngirls posting here or you might be skitzo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:28 PM
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I never cared about this, actually I always went for girls who would be dirty no matter their n-count. But as someone who's high on the sociosexual index, I can see why that would make you a less-trustworthy partner. When I was young, I was the worst kinda of branch-swinger, as soon as the honeymoon was over, I was finding someone new. And women have passed on me because of that, fine, I understand. You can be all sex-positive on reddit, but it does matter to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:20 PM
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This is a good comment I've come back to a couple times now. One thing that's occurred to me browsing PPD is maybe women don't encounter these guys IRL because other men are filtering them out. It is not really explicit but men notice when certain guys creep-out women, and its already going to be a sausagefest so you can do without them. Incels complain alot about women, but when you look into it, the usual case is they don't really have any close male friends either because there's something of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 04:48 PM
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Yup, its the basic "alpha" test -- will this guy turn pathetic for pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 01:05 AM
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Yeah, that's my experience, and I should add I never really figured out the FWB thing. Its like hey let's hang out and have fun and share intimacy but NO FEELS ALLOWED. It doesn't really work and you might as well consider it a non-exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 12:44 AM
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Redpills have sex with the cheaters and hear the excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 10:30 PM
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Yes, there's been times when I genuinely was not looking for a serious relationship and was completely upfront about about looking for FWB and it went fine. Although, you probably have to catch the women when she's also not looking for something serious (which means she might not be perusing OLD). And actually, I think being open about your intent is way more effective than the shifty player thing that TRP recommends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 10:04 PM
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manipulate = using your fingers and hands, so yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:46 PM
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I've never known an attractive woman who didn't acknowledge this. Although women have the looksmaxing thing down, so I wouldn't say its entirely unearned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:10 PM
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There's been a few times when I've been out with a woman and a guy will start talking shit about her, but he directs it at me. A lot of these guys dgaf, its some machismo thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 08:25 PM
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IMO, there's a huge class component to this. If you live in the burbs it probably rarely happens, but some street people will talk shit to every woman that walks by. I mention that because some of it seems less directly sexually motivated and more "I'm going to take that bitch down a notch."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 06:46 PM
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Because in satiating myself in healthy ways gives me the bandwidth to make the world a better better place for my family, my friends, my colleagues, my tribe. OP should be encouraged to express himself in good ways and be as productive as possible. The big lie is rather whatever discredited and hated version of feminism you are peddling, but fortunately the vast majority of feminist women have already completely rejected you. Are you a baby boomer?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:49 AM
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Wait til you find out what a dominatrix is Prostitutes offering services so unpopular among women that even top alpha males can't get for free. (I love it when "bdsm guys" brag about how many hookers are hanging around their meetings. Foniez.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 04:23 AM
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OP is authentically looking into how to engage with this in a safe sane consensual way -- he probably will never be MeToo'd, and neither will I. You can have your FSM "feminist" moral highground against all of us not-sane people, but you won't have your vindication.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:58 AM
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yeah, "bdsm community" likes imagine themselves as edgelords, but a lot of "related activities" are basic vanilla package.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:51 AM
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And there are way more psychologically healthy people engaging in this stuff -- do you see anything in OP where he's reenacting trauma? (Although I'd agree there are people engaging in kinks for the wrong reasons, you imply that anyone doing this is "broken" somehow. That is not a moral highground.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:27 AM
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No, he's right, a lot of the "feminist" discourse around this stuff is really just next-level slut shaming and FSM positioning. My advice to you is find a girl who's into this stuff -- they are not uncommon, (feminist women in particular seem to be down with their rape fantasies.) You'll realize its both not a big deal and also not anyone else's business.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:07 AM
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Take too seriously: Lack of shared hobbies/interests. Agree x3. I've always been pretty outdoorsy and somehow ended-up with someone who thinks sleeping in tents is for disgusting hobos, and its worked-out fine. Having compatible personalities is so much more important. Don't take seriously enough: signs of narcissistic or manipulative behavior, inability to discuss issues rather than fighting about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 02:49 AM
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I'd even say the reverse. If a woman has like 20 "friends" she's probably a beta who's always going to be pandering for group consensus approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 02:45 AM
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Many of those girls on Instagram are trying to get modeling deals. When I was a young guy, I knew "models" and exactly one model who actually modeled for products and services. For most of these girls, it was all about the status of saying they were a "model". So I think its a good thing that any woman with an iPhone, some makeup, and lights can be her own "modeling agency", and avoid all those lecherous photographer/producer type guys if she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 06:38 AM
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I dunno because I never go there, but my wife did some instagram stuff and my impression is that 90% of it is by-women-for-women. And it really isn't sexualized any more than typical yoga/gym class. So when these guys talk about instagram, I think they must be following the #hookerdeluxe accounts. (Either that or they get burned-out on hardcore gigaanus porn and something snaps and they can only get off to clothed women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 06:31 AM
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Even in the same city. I work in downtown San Francisco, where maybe 1% of ppl are fat. Then I go to the Colma Target and its like holy shit this place is full of short fat people. Its like there's some sort of fattie exclusion zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 06:33 PM
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Hate replying to some guy who can't even spell orgasm, but nah. I had one girl who was a "two pump chump", and another girlfriend who was kinda anorgasmic but fucking great in bed (she'd get frustrated which was pretty hot.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 06:02 PM
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That makes sense. Its also very likely IME that "symmetrical, feminine, attractive" women cum much more easily - you know the fertile hourglass types. In any case, there are certainly women where this isn't a big problem. I just disagree that the male model can get away with being shite in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 05:41 PM
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Disagree with the lookism take on this. Its more likely that attractive men have had sex more times with more women for a longer period of time, and are simply better at it due to practice. Sex is certainly something where your skills improve the more you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:33 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't say poly specifically, but there's a casual sex culture out there where ppl are like "Everyone in Europe has herpes and its NBD, Americans are so uptight about festering sores on their junk." So watchout.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:27 PM
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That is true and women love passing rumors about that. But this study was like putting protractors on guys' jawlines or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:17 PM
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lol seekingarrangement, guys like him can get girls right from top modeling agencies. I think the point is the girl barely speaks english and to her he's just another random dirty old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:04 PM
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Common factor in a lot of marriages: wife was in her early 20s when she met him, got taken off the market. Often at college, hence similar ages. ​ It seems that men will fuck younger women but not wife them. Know enough half-his-age-plus-seven type couples to say deffo not the case, guys are more likely to wife up the younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 03:57 PM
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And Linkedin heheh. I'd even say the main reason social media is so popular is because it gets u laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 03:46 PM
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Nah, they were indian guys who were flailing at an "AF" strategy before Mom calls and said "time to be the BB!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 05:14 AM
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Sure, that's true. But there's this US billionaire guy. The sports team he owns had just won the championship. He was just given an prestigious award as a great hero of his ethnic group. And then he got caught getting a $100 handjob at a strip mall massage parlor. That was just mechanical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 05:03 AM
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In one corner, Nockerjoe claims to be a 20-something 6'4" guy who gyms. In the other corner, poppy's husband somehow keeps her on the leash. I'm betting on the H.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:56 AM
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Nope, I'm saying women are NAWALT as fuck sexually speaking. Sorry if not clear, I'm agreeing with you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:51 AM
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lol this reminds me of when some dude mistakenly wandered into TRP (not knowing it was a incel forum) and posted how he seduced women with his dancing and how he'd put on certain moves so the woman could specifically imagine the amazing sexual connection they would have when he bedded her. Some TRP badgeholder guy replied "Dancing is beta". Funnily enough this guy backed-off and was like "I know yeah I just like it that's all" and pretty much beta'd-out to the "endorsed" guy (who may well have b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:43 AM
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Yeah, you cannot deny Bad Boy appeal, but the type of women who went for NotoriousBig etc aren't even in the same social galaxy as Carlton the help desk technician. I bet they're actually thinking of a small-time weed dealer who lifts weights or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:31 AM
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IMO the real magic occurs between the ears and there's no mechanical device to truly shortcut that, (Because for most women its not just a matter of mechanics as with men.) IDK, but a couple women have told me that vibrators were desensitizing and made it more difficult in the long run. This comment will probably make someone mad, so I'll just say girls humping pillows is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:22 AM
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I think it is probably a false or indirect correlation. More that attractive men have been having more sex for a longer period of time, and are generally better at it just due to practice. The idea that women get off to a male model two-pump-chump is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:14 AM
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Right, its hilarious that as soon as sex comes up, PPD women get AWALT as fuck. Huge amount of variation here ladies, you can practically guarantee what exactly works for you won't work for the woman next door.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 04:08 AM
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Yeah, agreed, OP. One thing I don't understand at all is these guys' obsession with women having sex with "convicted felons". Where the fuck are they were they are surrounded by criminals? Or were they just brainfucked by that hot mugshot guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:40 AM
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Been there, done that, could do it again. Although it was more "didn't want to" rather than "couldn't". People (mostly men) might think its a great deal, but IMO you need to be actually polyamorously-minded to pull it off. Most people will probably end up branch-swinging or getting swallowed up in NRE and neglecting their primary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 01:07 AM
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Right, I've done the poly thing, and the big question is how you navigate social situations. (and what the fuck are you going to do if you have kids?) Show up at thanksgiving dinner with your two spouses? It doesn't really work, and it ends-up being a wife and a secret girlfriend. Anyway the polyamory sub is constantly ranting about unicorn hunting couples. The DADT mistress thing seems kinda old-school, in 2019 its more likely the wife knew what she was getting into but wanted the wife-privileg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 06:35 PM
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Going to agree with you. I've known many average chubby white guy types who go player-mode as soon as they get a girl on the hook. I just think its funny as fuck that these guys talk about plate-spinning and etc and now are like "no, no we all secretly want LTRs!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:40 PM
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IMO makeup works well for photography or from across the dance club, but doesn't do much if you're standing 3 feet away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 04:12 PM
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Buddy of mine dumped a girlfriend because she cut her hair short. Boner disintegrated. (And IMO very few women can pull off the pixie look.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:56 PM
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In a downtown bar, see two shorter brown guys wearing fedoras coming in and making a beeline to the first group of girls. They're not too interested in talking to these guys. They move to the second girl group, who must have seen them coming because they make a huddle and completely ignore the guys. They are looking around for their next move and the bartender kicks them out saying "no pickup artists!" I note they never bought a drink. Half hour later we're smoking weed in the alley and these gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:47 PM
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Yeah, its always going to be crazy like that, so I don't know if waiting solves those issues or makes it worse. (and SAHM is just not realistic) However I think it works out much, much better to miss time when you are young and it is "just a job". Once you are in your prime earning years in your 30s and 40s, its much harder to take a few months off, especially if you have people reporting in to you. And getting promoted is how you afford the nannies and maids and other stuff you need to help. Ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:31 PM
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Also, funny story. Once I was hanging out with a FWB and a friend, and this girl they knew from college (?) comes in. She says "Do you remember Chad?" And their eyes light up and they say Chad!! How is he doing? And I'm getting the impression they had sex with this guy. And the girl says "I heard he sees hookers now!" And they were like Oh no! Not Chad... Anyone but Chad... So this is like real low status activity, keep it on the way down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 06:34 PM
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Some feminists are, it has been a very contentious issue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_sex_wars
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 06:30 PM
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I had to look that up and lol its a real movie. Amerimutts btfo'd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfpXeLVzJIw
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 06:18 PM
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The whole "plate" thing is silly, but I don't think its uncommon for women 27-33 to have a bang buddy while they look around for "the one". In that case, its the women who are pumping-n-dumping.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 06:03 PM
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Educated professional women almost never have kids outside of wedlock though. If they want kids, they're far more likely to rinse a betabux than get knocked-up by chad thunderbowels.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 05:34 PM
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Did it in mexico once because my friends were doing it and it was only like $50. Girl was hot and enthusiastic, but it was a pretty empty experience. I don't know what a decent escort costs here, but its definitely not worth the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 05:24 PM
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Been discussed endlessly here. 80% of guys on OLD are indeed ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 05:08 PM
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I used to be ultra-cynical about marriage and only did it because I wanted kids, but its actually worked out pretty darn well. Maybe I've blooped myself because if something happened to my wife, I'd probably do it again and have more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 05:04 PM
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I'll just say that my wife was really smart to want kids in her 20s. Her career is taking off in her 30s and it would be much much harder to take time off and manage all the baby stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 03:55 PM
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"researchers" = internet incels lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 03:43 PM
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If young women decided to compromise and pursue relationships with stable "boring" average males who would be less likely to go all polyamorous than the highly desirable and promiscuous minority, there would be less women trapped in these situations. Well there's an entire sub telling boring average guys they should only have polyamorous casual relationships with women. Its been quarantined so I can't quite remember what its called, but you can find it on old reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 03:25 PM
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I'll just say that that most straight men are terrible at 1) rating their own SMV relative to other men, and 2) rating the SMV of the women they're after, especially if she's the approachable "girl next door" type. If you're talking about the not-fat college student type, EVERY guy on the planet wants to hit that. Almost all these scenarios boil down to 5s pining after 8s. These girls want top men because they are at the top themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 03:10 PM
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Right, its almost a counter-stereotype that SV guys have a bunch of outdoor activities and stuff that has explicitly nothing to do with computers. Ppl in this thread rolling out the neckbeard "IT Guy" gamer stereotypes which is very far from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:40 PM
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IDK, but I think its more common that professional women shack-up with the perma-boyfriend and don't have kids. Cock carousel and chad pump-dump is overblown in rp mythology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:27 PM
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Reminded me that in my early 20s I would straight-up card girls because i had no idea how old they really were. So much of this comes down to dress and presentation. And actually that's a better spin. I've always been dirty as fuck but now that I'm old I behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 05:28 AM
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IMO, biggest difference is just outfits/makeup (plus whatever surgery or injections). edit: sometimes I'll see an attractive woman who's dressed up a bit, and then I realize the guy she's with is like 18, and I'm like omg, i'm officially a dirty old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 06:31 PM
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I'll admit she could be anywhere between 15 and 25 in that picture and I couldn't tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 05:58 PM
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Very attractive women often have really great personalities I've found. (Either that or they're completely nutzo.) And I don't think that's just halo effect, its more that they need to disarm everyone who would assume they're a stuck-up bitch and they're not competing in the same sense as us proles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 05:53 PM
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Yeah, I don't know. We're living in the alternate timeline where "lesbians" are now cute young girls who wear bikinis to the dyke march.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 04:01 AM
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I came up with the old school RP/PUA sites (as well as ethical slut sex-posi type stuff), and 90% of the sidebar was there, but the mentality was way more that you were in it to win it. Early Roissy/Hearste was all about having relationships with women, not nexting them and finding another to spin. Reddit TRP has always been a mgotwcel recruiting station where women are portrayed as a no-win situation, implying implying implying if you aren't Peak Schwarzenegger with Tinder girls dropping on you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 03:55 AM
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getting your hands on a hot girl to prove to the jocks and chads from HS who don’t even remember you that you’re a man too, lol, yeah. Guys on TRP see that awful chart and think they're totally going to SMVmaxx in their mid 30s and get the hotties. When in reality, its more like as long as you can hold it together "I get older, they stay the same age". And yeah, male wall is only a few years after the female one, everyone gets old and decrepit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 03:00 AM
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Yeah, that's actually one thing I sorta disagree with redpill on. A lot of college age girls slide by putting almost no effort in their appearance. But once they hit mid-20s they have to start worrying about diet, exercise, makeup, clothing etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 02:38 AM
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Yeah maybe #notalllesbians, but when I was younger dirty old lesbians were totally a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 02:04 AM
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I've never heard a woman irl try to claim she looks better at 30+ than her 20s I think they're thinking relative to their peer group. As long as women stave off the wall, there is far less competition as they get older. I work with a woman who's 42 has 3 kids and has the bod of a teenage athlete. She must have been pretty cute when she was younger, but in the 40-year-old woman tier she's a 9.5.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 08:42 PM
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Right, same general age/social group which is why nobody blinks at this in the real world (as opposed to reddit). But the distinction is totally relevant to 23yo dudes like me who couldn't get anywhere with the girls I should be dating but could hookup with 19 year old students, then when I was 30 I was getting jumped by 23yo stacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 08:22 PM
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Yeah, that's my point, the "anti" argument has to construct some age-gap exxtreme bald 45 yo janitor with a spare tire. The truth is women love older high-value men, they set off their base instinct to breed. How much older? That depends. But older than this sub likes to admit. And right, college is its own thing in terms social proof, especially if you're talking about some place like Stanford. But even there the froshs like hooking-up with the more manly juniors/seniors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 07:52 PM
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But...early 20s women ABSOLUTELY want to end up with early 20s men. Actually worst time for me dating was post-college early 20s. I'd hang out with girls and they'd tell me about older guys who took them with their BMWs or their great dancing. Not talking guys who were old, but older and had more resources. It definitely got easier once I flipped the script and I was the guy with the fancy car and my own apartment. Only on reddit is there some weird aversion to 23 yo girls dating 29 yo guys. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:52 PM
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Depends on hairline. I'm immune to norwood so I don't really think I hit the wall until 36 or so. Can't fuck for 8 hours straight like I could when I was 20 tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:45 PM
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WOMEN ARE NOT GAY MEN. The funny part is gay women tend to think just like men and have a huge hardon for the young hotties.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:42 PM
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I've known some horrible players who did the male feminist routine. There's a "I'm a feminist I won't judge u bby" angle which works with certain types of girls. One time we were at the bar and this girl we knew came it because her boyfriend had locked her out of the apartment while he was banging an art student. She was just like yeah, that's the deal. This guy was the biggest virtue signaler and TRP would take one look and call him a soyboy cuck, even though he was plowing more girls than 90% …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:30 PM
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Hmm, I used to hookup with a 6-1 former stanford volleyball player, and the sex was fucking great. That was a longass time ago though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 09:01 PM
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I always found it interesting that athletic women get tagged with the "too thin" "doesn't eat" and etc. When IMO the soccer/volleyball/gymnast types are the model of strong healthy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 08:02 PM
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I'm on the tall side, so I do. Too short = can only relate in a horizontal position. Also knowing some taller women, some guys get weird about taller women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 05:45 PM
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Just like total number of divorces, you need to take into account the people who are/aren't marrying multiple times. My grandfather went through a series of wives after my grandmother died, inflating those stats quite a bit. (And yeah, they took all his money, but the guy couldn't cook a slice of toast.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 12:41 AM
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A reddit rabbithole I went down once: https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 04:55 AM
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Morning wood for me is almost always a pisshard. I had a girlfriend who liked to starfish while I pissed on her. IMO this framing of this here is sorta depressing. Maybe you've got a routine or stuff that works for the both of you without a lot of mental effort, that is like "normal sex", not some horrible chore. You can't break the bed or wake the neighbors every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 04:50 AM
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My take is the true chads don't put a lot of effort into seduction, they have women in their orbit, and maybe they have a "main", but they have better things to do than fuck women below their league. Alot of RP is projection from the guys outside looking in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 07:27 AM
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Nobody even attempts to debate the more socially-aware RPs - with the right framing, apparently you can't argue against it. This sub is more BP bait for virgin fetishists, frustrated friendzone fags, and guys who are angry that women can grift men for free dinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 06:20 AM
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Yeah, I know what you're talking about. But I think the big fallacy of pickup is the girl has to be open to the idea in the first place. And when she's out with the entire sorority, she's probably not because of slut shaming or other plans and etc. (or maybe my game is shite whatevers) The girls who go out looking for some D are generally lone rangering or out with their bestie who won't judge them. Gridrexx doesn't see it because women don't exactly like admitting they did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 06:09 AM
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I dunno, on one hand you have "bee urself" and "there's plenty of fish in the sea", and on the other you have some weird sexual complex that is backward rationalized through feminism. Is that all blue pill? IMO those Menslib guys are just the SWPL version of uptight religious people. I knew a guy like this growing up. It was funny because his mom encouraged him lift weights and dress a certain way to be attractive to girls. But she also wanted to audit his masturbation fantasies to ensure he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 05:49 AM
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I don't know, it seems naïve to think the club was anything but hooking up. And exploiting that myth is the whole business model of the club. Sexy girls = sex = pay cover and buy drinks boyz, did ya see that girl making-out? You'll get laid certainly...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 05:21 AM
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I think sometimes women are attracted but start with some negative assumption that you're probably a douchebag or w/e. So until you establish some rapport with them and come off as a decent dude, you don't see their interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 01:41 AM
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What I've seen is women tend to date around with the intent of branch swinging rather than having a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:31 PM
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Seems like "chads" mostly date around or have FWBs until they find someone they want to get serious about. IMO RP overestimates the number of guys who want to pump-n-dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 10:15 PM
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Sometimes? One time the local sports radio interviewed some baseball groupies, and these girls had no idea what position they played or anything, they just wanted to get with this guy or that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 07:34 PM
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Mostly its just a circular definition. There's a lot of mainstream normie advice which is effective (think dale carnigie etc), which TRP claims as "red pill". So if the definition of "blue pill" is "everything and anything which doesn't work" there's nothing really to argue about. (Although there is also the sex-positvity/ethical slut type stuff which also can work, but trp would probably dismiss as soyboy feminism.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 07:23 PM
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I think the last time I went off with a rando from a bar, she walked up to me and said she'd been lying around in bed all day (presumably masturbating), so she went to the closest place. (And IMO that's a good example of the stupidity of pickup, you're stumbling around looking for someone horny enough to go home with the first guy they see.) So I can't CMV, when the girl gang gets dressed up for the club they generally aren't looking to catch some dick. When women do that they're usually either …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 07:03 PM
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But it’s a learning curve for a lot of people Right, I suppose everyone learns this the hard way, guys too (including me). My point is more that a subtle invitation to makeout is a way lower standard that "100% intend to have sex with".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 07:24 AM
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Not at all a mgotw type, but every unmoderated reddit sub is a bunch of terrible memes by and for the IQ of 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 05:00 AM
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I don't care about her N-count per se. I care about her history of casual sex. Right. N-count is for severe autists who can only manage integer counters within their brain. Its a proxy for relationship-orientation and sociosexuality. I'm pretty sociosexual (especially when I was younger), and can completely understand why that's an incompatible value system or it could make you a dubious long-term partner. But that is for practical considerations, and not the weird baggage that comes with "n-cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 04:59 AM
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Yeah, probably. But I'd say the acutal bad behavior is more like pimping out women or mugging other dealers and etc. There's a number of low-level "social" dealers who don't deal with the heavy stuff and really aren't bad guys at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 04:37 AM
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Related, the idea that drug dealers are "bad people", when it is a business which relies upon having a good reputation and social rapport.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 07:37 AM
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America's #1 manlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 05:39 AM
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mission successful, spergcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:16 AM
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If a plurality of women preferred Jason Momoa to be 30 lb lighter, he would be. Yeah, someone posted 1990s Momoa modeling pictures here and he certainly had a ton more hot young woman appeal 20 years and 30 pounds ago. Remember Men Fags think men fags age like fine wine. (lololololol, even fags want the fresh meat.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 06:14 AM
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your incel spergoid fit is probably going to get this tread deleted, thus wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:51 AM
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fuck I hate when I waste my time and its an incel post, so i'll insist op is a AFC mentalcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:46 AM
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Yeah, all that stuff is a scam. I used to think that I could sum up "PUA: the good parts" from publicly available material it would be at most a forum post that would fit on a sheet of paper. (There was probably a moment in the early 2000s when it wasn't a scam, but by the time The Game was published in 2005 it was being monetized.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:48 AM
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Half of trp doesn't really understand what a shittest is, so good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:31 AM
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Yes and no. Back when I learned about this stuff, I figured out pretty quickly if you don't get authentic IOIs (which are largely unconscious) within the first moments, it is a waste of time. However, it isn't necessarily "creepy". The reason why PUA was an effective scam is because women who are kinda bored in a bar actually like when a guy comes up and "jestermaxes" (hot new incel jargon) to entertain them, and will string the guy along. So a lot of warcraft-type rpg nerds got into this, and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:25 AM
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Yes, atlas used the term "date rape". But whenever I've heard about this shit its never on a "date", more like the beta-type guy who got the woman alone somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:45 AM
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Shit happens lol. Another time I blew it because this girl stood on my bed with her clodstompers on and I got pissed. (funny how you don't forget this kind of thing.) And yeah some women like you are dtf, but I think most are in maybe-mode because "it just happened".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:30 AM
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If there is zero possibility of sex, what business does a woman have being out alone with a guy, one on one, without a professional reason for doing so? Yeah, I was thinking about this and when I've hung out with platonic friends, its almost always been activity-oriented or not one-on-one (or lunch as screenmagnet said). And actually when a friend has invited me or herself over, its because she wanted to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:23 AM
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Good post, it should be "intending to have sex assuming everything goes right". And its not always the guy being weird, one time I really had to take a dump and that was enough to kill the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 09:26 PM
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wierdo reply which has nothing related to what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 09:19 PM
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It's interesting lol this reminds me of the TRP plausible deniability tack...."she doesn't want to feel like a ho, so give her some other reason" Its not that, it is almost zero women are going to pre-agree to any sexual activity. Even if that is 100% her intent, there is a hundred things which could convince her otherwise, and the guy will get butthurt if she said she would. while the girl is thinking, genuinely, that they're just going to be having milk and cookies, because that is what he sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 08:40 PM
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Men are wayyy more obsessed with Chad than they are with Stacey. Too much time around pillsphere. Most guys have no clue about their own SMV much less the other men around them. And yeah, they are really fapping it to hot unobtainable girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 07:36 PM
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100% intend to have sex with them Too high of a standard. Women should go home with men they 100% intend to makeout with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 07:28 PM
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So of the nice guys you know, you can tell which ones are NiceGuys? I think you came in with a stereotype but its often the beta/omega guys who get really rapey. And yes, it can suck sometimes, but there's enough creep behavior its understandable that women are aware of the potential. (And there's also enough guys itt saying they'd rape the woman on the island to justify that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 07:18 PM
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Despite all the mattress girl drunk finger-pointing stuff, violent rape - guy in the parking garage type stuff happens often on college campuses. Most rape victims are in their teens or early 20s (exactly what RP would predict).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 07:01 PM
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I think what you're missing here is that's almost a stereotype that NiceGuys will get this way when they're getting jilted. So from a woman's pov its almost impossible to tell the bad guys from the good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 05:48 PM
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IMO the interesting part of those surveys is a small number of men will admit to having raped multiple women. Which make sense IMO that a small number of sociopaths are responsible for most rapes. (and therefore the "teach men not to rape" stuff is ineffective and retarded because the rapists know what they are doing.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 05:39 PM
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Nope, you definitely don't get the X factor. And most "thugs" are losers btw, a lot of them are the worst pussy beggers you can imagine. Also your weird sentence formatting makes you seem like an autist fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 05:32 PM
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Being a asshole is never the missing X factor though, that's just the NiceGuy/super-blue framing of it. Guys who take that approach often come off as completely uncalibrated dicks, and nobody likes hanging around actual assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:20 PM
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6'4" here, you should try it. [spoiler]it works[/spoiler]
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:17 AM
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The actual Mystery method. Fucker is 6'6" and wore 4 inch heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 03:32 AM
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Honestly never have done it. Even the women who weren't all that conventionally attractive had something I liked about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 03:21 AM
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Completely agreed, most women in that age range are not looking for the betabux. However having a good income gives you an advantage because you can do interesting shit which is attractive to women. When I was in my 20s a bunch of us would go in on a ski cabin. Then we were cool ski party bros and not boring engineers and etc. Also you could just quit your job and travel for 6 months off savings or whatever. At that age nobody really cares about holes in your resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 03:06 AM
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Unattractive behaviors are unattractive though, and that does actually matter in maintaining attracton. (Not so much folding the laundry, but general slob behavior.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 12:09 AM
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Probably because most chores have a mutual benefit but there's really no reason to do another adult's laundry. But I have a real eww feeling about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:49 PM
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I think your original take is correct, that comic came from the incel community, specifically the r hapas guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 11:29 PM
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If you can afford it, hire someone to clean your toilet. ] do refuse to do his laundry cause that's shit your mother does, Yup, that's my logic as well. (that and my clothes are like 3x the size of hers.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:14 PM
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Some women select for manchildren for some inexplicable reason, and then get angry the manchildren act like children. This is true, women will find some guy who lives in a room with nothing but a futon and a bong and his clothing all over the floor, and clean him up. I have no idea how you could live with and marry someone without realizing they are a big dumb baby, but apparently this is common on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:07 PM
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MGTOW seem more like divorceecels to me. But I know a few guys who have checked-out of the provider game and focus on their music or travel and etc and just pickup bartender shifts or whatever to pay the rent. They still date and hookup, its just not like a huge priority for them. (Although these guys are like 40 so not who we're talking about about.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:56 PM
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Yeah, I know so many previously child-free or ambivalent women who are now moms. In my experience, as soon as women settle down that instinct bites most of them hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:34 PM
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IDK, but I read about these helicopter parented people where they're 25 and their mom still does their laundry. IMO this is almost always a shitty relationship proxy issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:13 PM
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80% of men I see, especially in single-sex groups, are leaving empty-handed. PUA nonsense aside, that's always been the case I think. Most people hookup through social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:02 PM
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men beta out after marriage like a woman gaining 20 lbs. they think they can "drop" the good alpha they displayed to GET her This often happens, and I think the reason why is 1) men have to figure out on their own how to seduce women. 2) once they have the women, they have this template of "good dad" in their heads from their parents -- no matter how dysfunctional or asexual their parents actually were. But IMO there are other alternate scenarios: - Woman intentionally picks the beta guy because…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:50 AM
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That's pretty lolz, because its not at all the old narrative where they forgot their inner game and had to reclaim it. Instead they needed to metaphorically attach a fake pair of balls to be "masculine".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 05:23 AM
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I see that as a different problem, where you have no idea where someone will be in their life in a year or two, despite whatever they say during the first month. And yeah, men are often on a different time scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 05:53 PM
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Can't disagree with a bunch of sweet nice stuff. But imo the big mistake people make is trying to do everything together and becoming non-independant and codependant in each other's boredom. Never stop dating your SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 05:12 AM
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I think what happens is people get into open/poly relationships where one of the parties isn't especially active. Anyway, its more than 0%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 09:14 PM
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My roomate and best friend was objectively a 'Chad' and will make a good Alpha Bux one day (did I use those right). Rich family, 6'2, Pretty, Ripped One of the smartest people I ever met, D1 athlete. He still only gets laid once or twice a month. IMO, PUA/RP has always had a bunch of unrealistic expectations around casual sex. A guy who 'only' hooksup up a couple times a month without really trying is probably like top 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 08:14 PM
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shes conservative or religious and believes that being super low n count makes her valuable Sometimes. But I think a lot of people's sex lives aren't as exciting as we make them out on PPD, and for a lot of women its something like boyfriend / boyfriend / that one time in Cabo / boyfriend->husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:58 PM
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You say most men's willingness or ability to be a player is overestimated but that concomitantly requires a hideous overestimation of most women's emotional intelligence of seduction dynamics, OP being a prime example. Potentially, but my view is a good seduction is a mutual victory for both parties. In fact I'd say the usual case is the woman playing herself rather than being played by the man. Which is what OP is trying to avoid. This also probably overestimates most men's ability to seduce. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 07:47 PM
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IMO, you're overestimating most men's willingness or ability to play someone. Most high value guys who just want something casual are upfront about it, and the guys who just want to pump-n-dump move on quickly if they're getting blueballed. Obviously no strategy is perfect, but talking to non-sociosexual women this type of thing works for the most part. Of course plenty of serious relationships also start from casual sex, so there's no "best" way, but OP is trying to justify not slutting it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 06:26 PM
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Ummm, "porn star" is not a job and they are all prostitutes. Sorry for ruining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 05:39 PM
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I'm here in the US and, except for a brief period when I thought taking a woman out for dinner would get you somewhere, I never "dated". People hang out and have sex until it warrants some sort of relationship status. So it seems "dating" was kinda an obsolete term until it was brought back in fashion by dating apps/sites. And on PPD it seems to get used euphemistically because it sounds nicer than "fucking".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 05:31 PM
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Then after getting laid on the third date or whatever it takes, play the "not looking for anything serious right now" card. I think you're overestimating most men. Lots of guys will either blow it over LMR or lose interest immediately if they can't get the P&D. Like it or not this strategy will DQ a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 10:40 PM
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tldr of ppd, shitposteroldlady.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:06 AM
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The original was more like the female version of the old red pill -- hit the gym, looksmax, play great girl game, and land the chad. And yeah, that works. I dunno what the femcel version is. Stacy squirted all over every guy's face?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:19 AM
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Would not deny the fantasy, but as someone who has been both, there are reasons most men don't seriously pursue this strategy. (beyond incels ideating as chadfish or etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:00 AM
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The more honest ones will admit to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 05:23 PM
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Male imperative is putting our penis inside women. If its the same woman, most guys are fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 04:33 PM
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Even on MRP there's not much of this; TRP basically ends at "how to get pussy" and MRP picks up at "now you're married, dumbass, don't fuck it up." Well put, there's a lot of missing meat there. (And even MRP is more "now you're about to get divorced, dumbass".)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 02:38 PM
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Seems like some women pick men because they're controllable, then end up angry they have another 'child' to boss around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 02:17 PM
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I took my driver's test with a manual. IMO they're the most fun when you're trying to wring what you can out of a 4 cyl. They're not very enjoyable with a big powerful engine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 03:17 AM
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I'm not really sure if I've really my mind changed about anything significant. But this space is interesting because its the only place I've ever found where women are honestly engaging with RP/manosphere ideas. So it is certainly elucidating -- someone will say something and the light bulb flashes and I finally get some little thing that happened in my past.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 05:47 AM
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Which is fine because it covered those other guys doing the Not The Dad dance. Maybe not really ppd but more from the wife's perspective "Queers steered my husband and stole my house!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 05:17 AM
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Does this mean I can't complain about being invisible to the young hawties?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:56 AM
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Woah. There needs to be a Harvard version of Maury. This is like trash deluxe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:53 AM
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also it worked for me...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:19 AM
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The usual factor here from what I've seen is people are in relationships and sexual attraction is pretty much out of their mind. Its not until they are both single do they start to think wow my friend is pretty hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 02:05 AM
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Pornography equalizes the terrible “thirst” some ppl here say makes maleness a biological prison of hormonal torture in the face of female indifference. Hmm, not really sure if this is the case, and constant overstimulation by images of sex might be making guys even thirstier. Note if you look at a porn site, the real business model is camwhores.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 01:24 AM
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Eh, I don't think in numbers but I've been able to bat above my league.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 11:02 PM
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Yeah, I think that's it. A lot of women only use the apps for validation or to exchange pix (or maybe they're even being bribed to stay active on there), but not actually "dating".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 10:58 PM
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Yes, I was anti-marriage and went through all the worst case scenarios, talked to lawyers and etc, but IMO its the only reasonable way to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 10:47 PM
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look up relationship anarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 10:33 PM
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This lookism stuff is soo autistic. Sure Bobby was decent looking but its more important that he was cool enough and has the frame and game to FWB. It doesn't even matter what Tom looked like because he's in oneitus mode. Stop applying stupid chadfish logic because adding benefits to a friendship is almost entirely personality driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 09:50 PM
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Yeah, if the fuckbuddy thing ends, Sue and Bobby will stop hanging out together. However ideally they can still function in the same social space without antagonizing each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:55 PM
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Nah, if Tom got butthurt about it at all, he wanted way more than a blowjob. Whenever terps are posting about this stuff, you can tell it caused them extreme mental agitation. If it was just a friend who didn't want to fuck them, they wouldn't even be posting about it. Also its not whether he freaked-out or not, but the potential, which women are very sensitive about. In this story, Bobby put out the cool sociosexual vibes and Tom did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:46 PM
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Almost but not quite. Its more like Bobby is a cool laid back dude who would be fun to mess around with, he's not going to make a big deal out of it or brag to all his bros. Meanwhile Tom would get possessive and weird if things don't work out like his disney fantasy. Point being you could put Tom's brain in Bobby's body and get the same result. I'm not ashamed to say that I've orbited some women successfully. There's an outcome-independent way of doing it where you value you each other as frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:25 PM
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Nah, the way it works is everyone, man and women, fucks the same sluts. Although highly sociosexual is more like 3-5% of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:57 PM
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They don't get divorced. Deadbedroomed probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:17 PM
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I highly suspect a lot of them are Indian guys who want to fuck around before their mom sets them up with the tradwife.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:43 PM
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A lot of trad religious women are completely uninhibited with their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:42 PM
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Yeah, I've had plenty of casual sex, but whenever I was racking up n-count, my overall sexual satisfaction was pretty poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:38 PM
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fyi this guy won't stop replying with whatever farts are wafting through his brain. he'll probably start talking about 12 year olds or something gross soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:36 PM
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Nah, my libido is too high to rely on hookups. Also I know women who have had a lot of casual sex and half the time the guy can't even get it up or has some other malfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:40 PM
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I don't necessarily agree with this association. A lot of higher n women have issues with drugs or mental instability and are not necessarily high libido. And people in relationships have the most sex, so HL people tend to pair off and do it. n-count is mostly a function of how relationship-oriented someone is, not their libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:11 PM
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This place is completely obsessed with the 1% of ultra sociosexual people with massive n counts. Most people's sexual history is pretty boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:56 PM
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My take is there's no actual relationship between n-count and what a woman is like in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:18 PM
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Who would want a wife that is a wholesome angel honestly? How about a wife that welcomes you home on her knees, mouth wide open? These men are lying to themselves if they're saying they don't want a fun wife. IMO a lot of these guys don't actually want this -- the root of the "low n count wife" thing is some deep madonna/whore complex where they want a woman who they think is only capable of making cookies, not throating their dick. Even though RP is about getting laid, there is a ton of sex neg…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:06 PM
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I don't really care about this. But you can't really tell a woman's n-count by looking at her. So yeah, its actually a logical strategy to manwhore as much around as possible until you find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:12 AM
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I'm thinking it could just be a large number of traditional catholic immigrants. A friend lived next to a nunnery and they were all from central america I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:21 AM
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the arguing, and more arguing, my girlfriend made an attempt to have make-up sex with me. The really issue here is really not about the sex but the pattern you're in where you fight and then grudge-fuck each other to "make up", plus she knows you need to get up early so she's intentionally making drama. This is a really toxic cycle, you'll probably have some fantastic hate fucks, but eventually it will spiral out and you'll break up. Hopefully your next relationship will be mostly free of such d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 06:33 PM
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Stay in shape, don't lose your hair, learn how to fuck, and date girls under 25. Its actually easier as you get closer to 30 and have your shit together. Eventually you might stumble upon one that's marriage-oriented and you can take her off the market. At least that's what worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 06:26 PM
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I work in marketing so its often the situation where attractive women hire each other in sorta a sorority situation, or maybe its just a career which attracts the attractive. There's deffo a certain style where the women dress very feminine, but not really sexualized, maybe a sort of 'alpha female' type thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 06:00 PM
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I think there's a general anti-marriage sentiment outside of manosphere or mgtow or whatever, just from the general recognition that divorce can be a complete shitshow. I know a number of guys who only got married after being shacked-up for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 05:28 PM
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Sex is one of those things where women are 100% NAWALT, every one of them is wired up completely differently. So these threads are interesting but don't provide conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 05:08 PM
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Hah, I must have made a bad argument here because these posts are not popular. For what it is worth, I do not currently know any men who admit to visiting prostitutes or how they think (although back in my single days in my 20s I did). Nor do I support cheating on your wife with professionals. But married guys who hit a stripclub while out on business? Oh fuck, its more like "don't tell my wife", but its is completely normal, and none of the men I know really consider it to be "cheating". (I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 04:59 AM
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like old time private eye who took pictures through the motel window. "heard about", "knew about".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:38 AM
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If these women go to the gym regularly, they're probably way above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:30 AM
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lol, yeah. I was thinking in minds of the guys who go to hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 12:20 AM
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Yeah, this guy is really not bright, so he'd fit right in with you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 12:18 AM
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Also I'm guessing most men categorize strippers/whores as "not cheating" but I doubt most women see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 09:34 PM
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When you're in an open relationship, you actually have to communicate about what your desires are. (Which is also why trp plates is weak sauce.) Old monogamous girlfriends always used to ask about being serious about "commitment", and I always thought there were a shitton of assumptions wrapped up in that word. And since I wanted to fuck and not fight, I usually just agreed, and it wasn't actually a convo. And I think that's how you end up on people stepping out on their (supposedly) happy commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 09:32 PM
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You've summed up the dilemma well, I think. Either you do or you don't try. I've witnessed (and been involved in) enough cheating behavior that I came to the conclusion that the only solution was open relationships. At least then when it happened to me, it wouldn't be a "betrayal". But I later figured out that with the right person it is much easier to be proactively monogamous*, versus say than fall into some default societal mode of "commitment". At some point you just have to fly without a ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 08:22 PM
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My friend's brother. His wife has gone full shrew harpy mode and I'd be surprised if they had sex since the last kid. She's a complete embarrassment. This guy really hates his life and he knows he needs to get divorced, he just doesn't know "how". Rather than talk to a lawyer, he wants to get a life coach or something. I was thinking of sending him something from the MRP sidebar, but I don't really like the guy too much either so why get involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 07:53 PM
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(Not to be TRP defender.) Some woman will see a man as being "low value" and not someone you get serious about, and fuck him anyway. These guys are perfectly happy to be put in the fuckzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 10:34 PM
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haha, yup. if buying drinks for women was ever effective, it was long before my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:15 PM
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I think women tend to be a lot more outcome-independant about it, like make some smalltalk and see if the guy's interesting or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 07:49 PM
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That's a big part of it, but reddit TRP was more something which came out of bodybuilding dot com and related forums, primarily as a reaction to online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:20 PM
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agreed about "service topping" or whatever, but on the relationship level it works out differently. women always have as much power as they want to have. i think a lot of these guys are afraid of female sexuality, they may say they want "virgin pornstars" but they don't really.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 05:10 PM
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Yeah, this kind of thing actually does work in the short term if you like toxic relationships that make your life a living hell. 1) Conflict 2) Makeup 3) Grudgefuck 4) Woopie! 5) Repeat until you can no longer stand each other. To answer OP I think the entire concept of "dread" is flawed. How it should work has nothing to do with fear or uncertainly, and it it is more an extension of abundance mentality and positive reinforcement cycles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 05:07 PM
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I don't think the issue is that men aren't getting sex, the issue is that a sizable demographic of men aren't getting anything. Little to no social support, little to no familial support or outright negative familial support and little to no intimacy for long periods of time. Completely remove the sex/empathy stuff and point out that men are increasingly becoming socially isolated, and I think people would be much more sympathetic. (I also think this is the core issue. Most incels also have poor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:14 AM
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One thing that always befuddled me is they always talk about masculinity and dominance and etc, but there's only like one terp who has squared the circle about BDSM. A lot of women are into exactly just that. I think these guys really want personal madonnas, not personal whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:04 AM
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Right, and that's why this probably doesn't work as a long term strategy because the STRs will be very very short term. What I see guys do instead is LTR for bit, woman leaves him when he's not mister marriage, rinse and repeat. I've been meaning to post about this friend of mine, after his last gf dumped him he said "I told her I wasn't the provider type". He focuses on his music and building guitars and traveling around, and has a bunch of buddies who do the same. Saw him a few days ago and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 02:56 AM
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There's an sorta obvious solve for this where marriage/children-oriented women date (somewhat) older men with established careers, rather than hoping the guys their age put down the bong eventually. For men, I think the advice is correct and most are much more "marriageable" in late 20s/early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 02:29 AM
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I'm of the opinion that reddit trp was never good. The old game blogs and stuff were very anti-mtgow and had more of the mentality that "you fucked up, go fuck 10 other women". reddit trp was always full of mtgow recruiting shit and guys whining about the frendzone and how hot blondes dont' fuck short asian guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 06:36 PM
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Or maybe these guys aren't as attractive as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 12:50 AM
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For a while, I was openly dating multiple women, so not cheating or trying to play anyone. Which was fine until they started catching feels or seeing a future, and then they would have some sort of breakdown. And it was usually framed as socially-driven than physically territorial, like they'd be exposed or be seen as a pathetic woman. (also one girlfriend compared herself to Hillary Clinton and that's when I started getting an inkling that Hillary might be be in trouble.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 12:20 AM
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Well whoever, but very few of them are true economic leftists. They want sweden-style benefits and sexual liberation. And there is basically zero support for abolishing capitalism from the actual working class in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 08:09 PM
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lol, in the US the “super liberal” are the capital owning class.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:58 PM
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I have no idea what "normal" is, but asking around a little it seems like people either tend towards "a little" or they make it part of the routine and have "a lot". Anyway, good for you for keeping it going for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:40 PM
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Right. Also in your younger years when you're playing the long game while everyone else is playing the short game. (you have to play both)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:01 PM
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I don't know what in our culture made them believe that would ever be desirable. In general, I think most men really have no idea how they rank in the SMP, esp if they are not making any active effort to improve themselves. They see their buddy chad with stacy and can't figure out why they can't get becky. chad also smokes weed and plays videogames so maybe he doesn't even know what stacy sees in him. this is esp true when men are younger and surrounded by young women who are much higher in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:51 PM
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Yup, it is pretty common for college age women to go through an anger phase, because they're 20 years old and the entire world is trying to offer them stinky dick (or trying to force it on them). And some of them go tumblr-tard feminist. But by mid-20s most have grown out of it and have their dominant boyfriend guy or w/e and don't care much about that stuff anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:23 PM
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in my experience, very rarely. Occasionally a dumpster will catch a guy at bar close or maybe she has some fetish appeal or something. His buddies will give him shit about it! Attractive guys are either juggling 2-3 attractive girls or they lock in on a qt. so no, chad is not hording 80% of the women away from incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:16 PM
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Gay luxury space communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:36 PM
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Incels all the way down then,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:34 PM
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Wrong historically. Like just utterly completely wrong. "Red Pill" was how to negotiate the whole casual sex culture, which is completely undergirded by feminist principles. Success is being in sex-positive subcultures with empowered women. If you are getting laid, feminism is on your side. And well, the long-term outcomes, "enjoy the decline". Okay, then later on some tradconcels and muh videogames fattycels showed up with their dicks firmly in their hands. These have no input on "sexual strate…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:57 AM
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Yes, this is probably away from nice and pleasant, but there is a range of low-level emotionally abusive behaviors which men tolerate because the believe women are "like that". There's also what should be obvious red flag behavior such as being rude to waitstaff or getting into confrontations with people. (I'm thinking of some women in particular here.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 11:51 PM
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Well maybe, but my take is this often starts informally and stuff happens before there's an explicit $pricetag put on it. In the general case tho, you're probably right about drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:10 PM
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People who work informally don't pay all their taxes?!? Astounding! Please invent some societal narrative about the cash-only pizza place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:07 PM
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Most very attractive women who have low disgust triggers are not ending up as prostitutes. Very, very attractive women? Not prostitutes, but a lot of them are kept somehow. There's some abstraction where the money isn't being laid out on the motel room table, but its there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:42 PM
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Not necessarily "sexy", but in my business world the high status women tend to be more feminine presenting. There is power in wearing a dress to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:23 PM
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I had this girlfriend/sidechick who had earned a pretty substantial retirement fund from being a mistress. I was her fun guy so she paid for everything. But damn this girl had really great game, and she was super intelligent to boot, you just felt like king of the world with her. She just knew how to talk and listen and very subtly pump up your male ego. When you say guys pay for a personal connection or companionship or whatever, I think its true, and the great whores are pretty much therapists…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:52 PM
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Right, you had dating and relationship experiences and RP contextualized that. Me too. But I'm not sure if a bunch of essays is useful to the young guy with his dick in his hand, get out there and live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:39 PM
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I can respect that point of view. I always found it weird that The Rational Male is written in this tone of "to my 25yo self", but the comment section is filled with middle aged men (and it also gets little discussion on TRP). College is the perfect time to fuck around and have casual sex, but I don't get the extreme paranoia about LTRs. Yeah, you're bound to fuck up or get fucked over, but you'll come out as stronger person. Guys like yourself who's LTRs ultimately didn't work out still have in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 12:12 AM
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No, because there is no way men can contribute to feminism in any meaningful way, or even debate certain positions. At least that's what I've told feminists I've dated. Feminism is for girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 12:03 AM
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I got into a discussion here about "sex drive" versus "libido", and I think its quite possible that a lot of these guys do not have a great drive for sex. Many of the posts (like this one) seem to be less about a quest for a satisfying sex life and more about getting something for nothing. Anyway, sometimes men get a woman and don't know what to do with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 11:24 PM
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This. the perspective of an attractive women is there is a shortage of "men".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:50 PM
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Because most terps talk shit. Because most of them have no idea what a woman is like, their only source of info was TRP and not real life experience. Whenever the topic comes up, they sound like they're about 5 minutes away from the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:21 PM
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the irony!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:08 PM
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Well, its the response to incels, but most people don't spend any time or energy thinking about incels. I guess I did talk about ER with a buddy a few times because we both had independently stumbled on puahate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:08 PM
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"men aren't entitled to sex!!!1!" is a veritable rallying cry of our time maybe you should turn off reddit for a while, because i've never heard anyone irl say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 06:20 PM
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If a woman deludes herself into thinking there's a relationship in the offing that's on her. I dunno, but I see a lot of stuff around here about "having the power" and being the "gatekeeper of commitment". But in my experience if you have some purely sexual thing going, most women want to keep it that way. There's a sort of benefit of not having to girlfriend and provide emotional support and picking up the socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:50 PM
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In another comment he says he's divorced, and maybe he doesn't realize the divorcee SMP is different than the 20-something one. People have already done the kids thing. Big problem with TRP is you have a bunch of been-there-done-that 45 yo guys giving advice to inexperienced 25 yos. You don't learn how to relationship unless you're in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:43 PM
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Women are actually more likely to go without their desired amount of sex in a relationship then men are. I know of a few relationship breakdowns where the woman was quite attractive and the guy WAS NOT fucking her enough (and maybe there was porn use or something else.) And I was left thinking "wtf? i wouldn't be able to keep my hands off her." Perhaps these pill spaces fill up with higher drive men who are thirsty/horny/plate-spinning and we're over estimating the average male sex drive. My the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:30 PM
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Your best bet to score with these women is gonna be in high school before their egos blow up Hah, there was this gorgeous girl in high school who I kinda knew because she was my brother's friend's sister. She went right from hottie you see in hallway to flying around in some dude's private jet. Certain kinds of women just get teleported to a different universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:57 PM
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One reason I believe in "hypergamy" is because the general case is when a woman is done with you, she is DONE and it is OVER. I don't know but, IMO it seems like more of a male thing to pine away about ex gfs. I have a friend who still will occasionally mention the girl he was seeing was 22, even though he has a girlfriend. But I did have two girls from college reach out to me years later. But at the time they weren't really serious about me at all. So I really don't know if they were 'widowed' …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:36 PM
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Having been there, I think it is a sort of ruse. *I* know what I like, but you gals can date those sensitive nice guys if you want. (Or maybe that was a branch of sex-posi feminism which is no longer so popular.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:26 AM
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Reddit feminists have built up this (probably not entirely inaccurate) stereotype of redditors being horrible neckbeard nerds, so that's who they are giving advice to. Those are VERY low smv women yup, plus like half of them are MtF.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 12:24 AM
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I know a few guys who divorced after a short marriage, no kids. They eventually got with attractive women so I don't think it damaged their status at all. If anything its much better story than being never married in your mid/late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:45 PM
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If you've ever seen a male feminist guy do this IRL, its really obvious (and ineffective).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 06:42 PM
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just imagining some fat neckbeard coated in his own jizz -- "lemme post on PPD about completely CASUAL sex WHENEVER I want for NO EFFORT" in some attempt to rationalize his pathetic self.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:48 PM
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It makes sense because women are more socio-sensitive about leagues and such, and men who are confident they are in her league probably are. (Also why "chad fucks 80% of the women" is bullshit.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 01:54 PM
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Yeah, studies say it usually takes two to tango. And that doesn't fit the societal narrative, but whateva. Posting under automod because the cops don't get called until the guy is running around shirtless smashing shit with a shovel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:09 AM
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Sociosexuality is a personality attribute. There's tons of attractive people of both sexes who have no interest in it, and there are literal tons of unattractive people balling in their poly quadrangles. IMO the people who really want it figure out how to negotiate it early, like in their teens. Its really more "learned" than "taught". (Whenever I see a post about "casual sex whenever you want" like this on PPD, I assume the guy has spent the last 5 hours beating-off to porn and is now in some p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:58 AM
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Merry Christmas, Charlie Brown!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:41 AM
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Does anyone think the guys who are gargling this bathwater are crying on the internet about not having a girlfriend? Ooh sexless male statistic. I'd bet all these guys are cozy and happy in whoever's basement. (yeah I only know about this from PPD meta threads.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:37 AM
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That's pretty much how exactly how I imagined this going. Except then she talks about herself the whole time and doesn't let him get a word in edgewise. And at the end of the date she says "you can take me out to dinner any time!" while keeping a 10 foot distance from the guy. Then she says, hey could you drop me off at my friend's place ... my friend Chadrina, that's it. (Srs, some guys here underestimate how much men wave their wallets at girls when most aren't interested.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:10 AM
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For guys like us (Which is more common than most people here realize) investing into women at my age 18-25 just makes no logical sense whatsoever when they run through dudes like crazy. Right, it was like that 20 years ago when I was that age. Everyone just wanted to smash and nobody was thinking long term, so we jumped into bed and then branch-swung or jumped ship or whatever. It didn't matter because there was plenty of time. Then in early-mid twenties, it starts to click and people get seriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 01:54 AM
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One of the big issues with places like TRP is that its really on the hard cases who need to spend a significant amount of time there. So perhaps you're right. You can see guys getting rejected by their crush and coming to the conclusion that was on them, better hit the gym and get some new threads and a better attitude and fuck some bitches. And then they don't need TRP any more, so there's no reason to hang around and read 8000 word essays about awalts awalting in the awalt. The guys who do sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:23 AM
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My first thought was a lot of these guys must never leave the basement. But then it occurred to me that maybe they are the ones doing creepy stuff out there (and think they're getting rejected for their height/face).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 11:47 PM
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Yep, fortunately my place is up a hill a little bit so its relatively clean and nice. But a few blocks away they're all over. And in recent years its not just the traditional older homeless men and there's a lot of rowdy young guys out on the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 11:44 PM
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Words no man has ever said: "Check out the hot set of shoes on that chick." Just for the record, I've said/thought that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 11:32 PM
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RPW for the most part doesn't want a TRP "alpha". I think they struggle mapping RP concepts onto human behavior. And even TRP spends a lot of time arguing about whether something is 'alpha' or not .. because its just not that useful of a concept in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 11:23 PM
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the brutal logic of capitalism is about to clamp right down on your pubescent nutsack. enjoy being a middleman while it lasts. edit: at least get an mba and clamp down on some other bastards
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:19 AM
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uncomfortable or in danger Not a woman, but I have a place in San Francisco, and I feel ^^^ half the time I walk around the neighborhood. There's all sorts of weird crazy people (99% men) who are screaming about something and acting violent or having a verbal argument with someone in their head. But apparently these people are "not a danger" and can't be institutionalized until they commit a crime. Maybe I'm just older and less invulnerable. But if I feel the streets have loads of dangerous peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 06:09 AM
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I mean wtf kind of plane is this? A 1957 Cessna has a lot less sex appeal than you think. If you want to beta buxx0r it, at least get a boat. You could live on a boat. That would be some aesthetic archetype at least. Girls can say yeah, he won't pay the man so he lives on his own boat. (Either way maintenance costs will klll you.) Also whatever internet scam you found where teenagers get 60K is not going to last, so get an education and a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:51 AM
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A lot of it is stuff that you learn in your adolescence, when its quite alright to fuck up because 99.9% of the relationships do not last anyway. A significant portion of TRP is still stuck up on "friendzone" and "oneitus" teenager shit, and its not really clear if any of the hyperanalysis sends them anywhere other than braincels. Both you and OP are in agreement I think about "naturals" who learned things through experience and perhaps confirmed a thing or two from RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:22 AM
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okay, that forced me to go back and read this guy's argument. And yes things are always "gray", but I think most people would like them to be as black-n-white as possible. And if your potential partner has some opposite-sex best friend or former FWB who is the magnetic group center, that is less than ideal. But there always will be some gray, and there's nothing you can do about it. And maybe cutting out the guy who makes your wife creamcheesy is not really the ideal solution, but it is a soluti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:13 AM
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> Life at the Top: Rank and Stress in Wild Male Baboons Since neither of us fuck baboons, we don't care about this. RP "alpha" involves some heavy projections about masculinity stereotypes and so on, which are MALE ideals not female. Women just don't put guys in those groups. So I think its only useful as a "psyche you up" tactic and not at all useful for social analysis. (And even if you're reproductively successful, guys on here will still call you a fucking beta.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:56 AM
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lol, no RP stole the term from pop culture. There's no science about alpha mating among humans. (and wolves tldr) And coincidentally someone just posted something doubting dual mating strategy, and I still have the tab open: https://aeon.co/essays/does-the-mate-switching-hypothesis-explain-female-infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 04:39 AM
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There's a bunch of redpill stuff which women have independently confirmed to me. However, most women do not at all think in terms of "alpha" versus "beta", at least in the way its usually framed in trp, and I've known some real red-type women. IMO that's more male projection of their intergroup status. Also either end of the "dual mating strategy" (which might not even be a thing) is essentially fail mode for women, so that's not the approach the vast majority of women take. But maybe guys who g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:52 AM
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I got kicked out of my last social group when my friends' wife made a pass at me. lol, there was this guy who was like a friend of a friend, and his fucking fiancee would stare at me like I was made of cheesecake, even with the guy standing right there. And somehow I ended-up as the bad guy in that situation smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:22 AM
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This doesn't make a man feel secure (passive dread) and would indeed make him question your loyalty Makes me wonder if this MRP "dread" stuff is really just projection. The basis of this mechanism should not be insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 12:57 AM
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And he did the right thing and went his own way away from MTGOWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 08:37 PM
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I was shocked when my ex-gf told me she had some old friend who she considered her fallback guy. We dated for years and I don't think I ever even met the guy. Then he started seeing a younger woman lololol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 05:14 PM
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Sometimes I've wondered if the pretty girls keep the fat friend around because she's more 'rational' about this kinda stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 04:42 PM
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Nah, the owner of original mgtow forums shut down the site because he couldn't deal with all the woman hatred. Mgtow = Incels = woman haters = they all the same thing and always have been. The 10% or so of the mgtow community which aren't women-obsessed loser incels should "go their own way" and rebrand themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 04:36 PM
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Sex-positivity seems an a ethics to me. Like we both see each other as humans and we're both trying to make the other person walk away feeling like a winner. And if we both got "something" from it, we're even. Anything else is whatever/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 07:34 AM
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If you are average-looking with realistic expectations, dating has gotten a -lot- easier. Yeah, I can't say, but think perhaps people are vastly overestimating how 'easy' dating was in the old days for the average man. You would go around to different bars, parties, events, and maybe meet someone 5% of the time, and they would still flake or ghost you. (Old PU forums are full of stories of guys who made 100s of approaches without success.) And the guy sitting in his dorm on Saturday night playin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 08:40 PM
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Yeah, obviously. But when I've tried to convince manosphere on the importance of even shoes , they laugh at me. But girls look at your shoes! The body builder thing is obviously "a look" in and of itself. Men don't get male attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:46 AM
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Authentic IOIs are completely unconscious IMO. Just because her brainstem was checking you out, doesn't mean she was really considering you. Also pickup fallacy where women can reject you for many many reasons out of your control (e.g. she's there with her uptight friend). Although I think you're maybe right and you should strike while the iron is red hot. Engage before her main brain has come online and she might have a completely different take on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:32 AM
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hate this mentality. When we threw parties in college, we had tons of people crashing at our place. generally much safer than stumbling home at 2am.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:07 PM
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Welp, I guess a lot of guys have taken the pill..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:49 PM
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I'm probably more cold about this, but I can understand not wanting to be the "cause" of someone's suicide. And yeah part of the problem was she'd estranged relations with her family/friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:35 PM
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yes, ass guys, exactly, thankyou xkcd bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:30 AM
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Okay,I empathize because that shit happens. Men drain their value by becoming emotional leaches. You woman hate it and you justifiably hate it for good reasons why. BUT you hate it because it is inherently NOT masculine, and your lover is turning you into a "mommy". On the other hand there's a HUGE amount of women displaying NPD/BPD traits, and men justify this because they THINK it is inherently feminine in nature, or just how women are, AND that they're obligated to put up with it it and be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:08 AM
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Really? Have you been mentally hospitalized like Kylie-Anne was?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 04:29 AM
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If the woman finds you attractive she will make it obvious and you can't fuck it up. As a guy who's managed to fuck it up many many times, wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:50 AM
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Just the most extreme example of an emo fuckhead I could think of. You say you're not talking about extremes, but your Kylie-Anne ended up in a mental hospital, plus apparently you relate to this. A lot of people have a lot of issues, so that's neither here nor there. But IMO men are FAR more tolerant of mental issues than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:35 AM
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Aw did your post suck because you created Emo Chad Strawman, which completely ignores the common mental health outcomes? Cobain was a total head case so no I and I have no reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:18 AM
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Nah, I'd love to see Brett Farve and his football team beat the shit out of Ben Stiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:05 AM
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Pretty sure all the research shows women are more likely to stay with a man suffering from an illness or life altering injury. In an LTR? Sure, many women value commitment and bank the points. For a guy you fucked a couple times? You would be running out the door. (unlike my buddy) I’m talking about men who are all “I don’t need no feelings, I don’t need nobody” who then put enormous burdens on their SOs to be their 24/7 therapist while not reciprocating. The reason this disgusts you on a base l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 02:56 AM
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lol, guys come on here and whine about how movies lied to them. and you're defending a picture where a sleezy guy somehow steals Brett Farve's girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 02:13 AM
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There is a huge portion of women (33%?) with head problems who are expecting a man to carry them. At some point, "dating" is really just a matter of finding someone who's fit and sane. When men have mental issues, they generally have a lot trouble finding a woman. But on the flip-side, women with issues can usually very easily find (often vulnerable) men, and then of course white knight syndrome and etc kicks in. I watched a friend back out of this relationship which went right from casual sex t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 02:10 AM
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I honestly don't think they'd make that movie today. Also have seen a number people on reddit complaining about stalker romance plots.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 10:23 PM
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I watched it a couple years ago and the guy really came off as a creep to me, it wasn't endearing at all. Maybe too red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:58 PM
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SAM was considered like a date movie back in the day, but it really doesn't stand up to modern sensibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:20 PM
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And yet....and yet....so many (certainly not all or even most, but many) of the men who continue entering into relationships do so because they think (whether explicitly or subconciously) it'll be an easier way to have a constant pussy supply. Because its true, and if you want to have sex on any given Sunday, you need to have some sort of relationship (even if you aren't exactly "committed"). There's this mythos of getting an 8 pack and drowning in NSA sex, but I'd love to see the actual numbers…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:22 PM
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Sure, but when the rhetoric makes you indistinguishable from Incels to the average person, they don't care about your feelings either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 06:24 AM
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Be careful out there dude, there are a lot of little men out there who just want to take down the first big man they see. And they'll gang up on you and shit. Ultimately it doesn't come down to size (any martial trained fighter could take me down), but intent. I'd chew a man's balls off with my teeth to win a fight, fuck any sort of valor, especially if I was protecting a woman of mine. OP is 100% right. You can't just be tall and fit, you have to look like man, a man who could do violence when …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 06:11 AM
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You think those people are trash unlike the people you know. I knew some people who went on one of those shows as a joke, and until then it never occurred to me you might run into people doing that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:03 PM
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Fine if you own it. I'm not even arguing its wrong to objectify (or want to be objectified), just the mentality of "why is this offensive? women do it too."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:01 PM
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That is specifically what the OP is about. I mean guys come in here and are like "hey ladies do you like it when your SO runs dread on you?" And can't figure out why that framing would produce a negative reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 07:00 PM
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Yeah, the "science" argument is really more of a contra-PUA argument rather than something which justifies incel theory. (Well, actually there's a lot of evidence that mentally unhealthy males have trouble finding partners, but they're not posting it on blackpillscience.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:39 PM
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Most men and women who do this manage it without referring to their lovers as objects. (Perhaps a lot of terps have some sort of learning disability where they can't understand why this terminology would be offensive.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:12 PM
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If there is a stable cuckold relationship, I've never heard of it. I mean couples have been swingers for 50 years, but it seems like cuckolds are just negotiating their way out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:06 PM
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matters to whom? reddit admins, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 04:35 PM
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IMO, a lot of guys have gone so far down the porn hole, they're not really "functional" any more, and this is just one of the many symptoms of that. The typical cuckold is not only fantasizing about a woman (which he doesn't have), he's also fantasizing about about some other man (which he also doesn't have). He basically just wants porn IRL, it is not a realistic outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 04:27 PM
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I get the argument about shocking men into action and radical pussy depedestalisation planning and etc. When these guys talk about "simps", they're really talking about themselves. BUT ... you have to question to what degree that is effective, and at some point the place becomes a incel recruiting station, or only attracts weird indian guys and etc, because normies see them as a bunch of bitter basement-dwellers. And then they get put on the reddit shitlist and turn into a dying circlejerk. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 03:46 PM
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I think a lot of the RP ethos is very much working class, and a lot of those guys ain't too bright. (I mean there's probably some truth to the stereotype of the dumb guy with big muscles.) When these guys talk about "career women" I get the feeling they don't understand they is a huge part of the economy between 80 hr/wk lawyers and elementary school teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:35 PM
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To some extent yeah, but it certainly works better if hot bass-player chad is good at playing the bass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:16 AM
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I don't know, probably happens but not commonly. I was able to A/B test this when I did some acting for my friend's art film. I was re-introduced to certain people and as soon as I had some art cred and wasn't just a generic techie or whatever, I became 'visible'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 04:41 PM
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He can easily just change what he is interested in, how he dresses, and instantly be attractive to anyone in that group. Yeah, but its not that simple, and this is where social cred or local status comes into play. It doesn't matter what a guy looks like, he's not going to be visible to women unless he checks off whatever box she's looking for. So he actually has to become that brooding artist or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 04:05 PM
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Coqette used to real talk like crazy. The old redpills like Roissy used to link to her all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 01:53 AM
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I'm guessing the question was asked in an open-ended way to include gay men, swingers, people who have threesomes, "french marriages", hallpasses and etc. and not just "polyamory".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:09 PM
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Source? Seems like a vast over-estimation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:48 PM
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Usually all parties would be invested equally. I mean that's what people think, but what actually happens is the "girlfriend" is either the husband's or the wife's and the other person becomes unhappy about it. And then the poly people will come in and say you're doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:53 PM
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Right, I've even experimented with poly/enm relationships, and there's maybe 1% of the population who can emotionally handle it, and it otherwise attracts a bunch of narcissistic dramabomb type people who lack normal boundaries and you should generally avoid. (And I didn't want to become that kind of person.) The people who seem to be okay with it are really just having a lot of casual sex. The AITA people sound like the types who would make a big deal about ~aCCept oUr pOly rElaTionShip~, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:34 PM
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It’s to show that many women are just as shallow as men. I think it really shows many women are just as stupid as men. Like here's an obvious professional photograph of a model, oh that must be a real person and not some creepy basement-dweller.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:25 PM
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The number of presumably fitness-oriented redpills saying "women don't even need to exercise just don't stuff your face" is really bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:36 PM
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For men its better to have a good chance of succeeding. lol, that study says just the opposite. Men are predisposed to certain types, so women with a particular look are more popular than genericute. (Although to some extent I think guys are rating how easy they think a girl looks.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:16 PM
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I think if a woman finds you attractive, she'll assume you have a FB on your phone or there's some other competition. (This goes both ways, and I always assume a woman has some other guy she's at least talking to.) Also women will go through your place and look for any trace there's been another woman in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 02:47 PM
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Yeah, I love it. Big on the inside not so huge on the outside. Unfortunately I believe its getting cancelled tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 02:44 PM
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I'm in California where it seems like only heathens and contractors drive those things, so I'm just basing on what I've read. Super profitable vehicle line for GM, but they don't sell here. (Well maybe in Oakland.) But I've gotten a number of comments from women & men about our used Ford Flex, so maybe the domestics aren't totally dead in CA yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 05:38 AM
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But it does seem to fuck them up in their ability to trust women from what I've seen. I've seen that. The female social matrix plays up a high value on monogamy, but in reality it is not all that much of a bargaining chip. And that goes both ways. I think perhaps even guys who have wised-up perhaps expect a blue pill at the end of the rainbow. Which is not to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 05:27 AM
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I mean they are the exact same GM vehicle down to the sheet metal. Certain classes prefer the restraint of the Chevy/GMC versions, others like the more obnoxious Cadillac. (Either way its a glorified pickup truck.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 05:07 AM
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Escalade is a Suburban with more bling for the new money crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:15 AM
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True, some guys figure out where they fucked up and get right back on that horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 12:47 AM
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Right, I was looking for a post along these lines. I think there's a more stoic/masculine framing where you can say feel something and this is what you're doing about it, versus an emotional dump which a lot of people will interpret as a cry for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 12:40 AM
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Cosigned. PP men are 😎 as fuk. My disagreement is that I know a few guys who are very good-looking natural types, but also very relationship-oriented and "blue pill". They have a positive WAW attitude towards women because women have always treated them positively. They tend to be a more feminine or feminist because things are easy for them. Whereas others of us had learn things the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 12:01 AM
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In love and wanted kids sooner rather than later. AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:48 AM
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Plus some of it is just performative social media, and the woman really wants a guy who can't be shittested by this stuff and is dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 02:27 AM
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I still don't see why it can't be 20% of the women having 80% of sex ....aka nymphomaniacs My assumption is attractive people have a lot of sex with each other, and asking around a little backs that up. If the average couple fucks once a week and another couple fucks every day, that's 80% of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 06:32 PM
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On AskMen or somewhere on reddit, this guy posted about how a girl was talking to him after class and whether he should ask her out. And everyone was like NO! never assume a woman wants anything more than friendship! It was just the bizarre mentality to me. No wonder guys struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:48 PM
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Seems like a lot of men just sorta auto-commit to whoever is having sex with them, despite the fact she's a narcissist/crazy/in debt/super bitchy or whatever other red-flags. This is probably especially true for tradcon terps who might have not even been aware you can have a more casual relationship. So I don't think you have to spin plates, but you should date around enough to know what a good relationship looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 04:30 PM
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The thing about hookups/ONS is its like 50/50 there will be no connection and the sex will be terrible. plus the woman will often have some other motivation than raw desire for hot sex with you. So I don't really understand the validation from "n-count" because you're probably just having a lot of bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:19 PM
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I don't even like the term spinning plates, but the TRP method seems to be bluffing your way through a few fucks while dodging any relationship discussion with some lame A&A jokes and wannabe player shit. Might not be beta, but its not really alpha either, because you aren't embracing it. In my experience its actually easier to maintain FWB or fling type relationships if you're open about what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:11 PM
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Sadomasochrist has a post arguing that women select for short-term versus long-term mates, and that's the basis for AF/BB. And maybe there's some truth to that. But it probably has more to do with the fact the dude has 3 bootiecalls on his phone, and not the rippling oiled homoerotic masculinity that the OP is obsessed about. FSM demands monogamy after all. Edit: It doesn't fit a narrative for any feminist or incel "gotcha point" so just falls flat. Yep. if it doesn't apply to short brown dudes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:40 AM
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Except TRP is mostly Incels, Incels who transformed themselves into Players, (and #1) Incels LARPing as Players. So there's no moderate "regular guy wants a good gf" viewpoint there, just a circlejerk about what they think super sociosexual tinder sluts want. And in actuality, the qualifications for "bad boy" status is actually pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 03:16 AM
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Generally disagree, this is not what most women want and beta-bux is a failure mode. But I think *some* women want to wear the pants and pick guys for LTRs that they can control, or that will never be able to cheat on them. However they never seem very happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 01:21 AM
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It came out years later that the busty blonde teacher from my high school would fuck students. (Or maybe I just found out because my friend thought I fucked her.) And maybe she did come on to me, but at the time I had a 17 year old athlete girlfriend and ZERO interest in this teacher's baggy old 26 year old ass. So those "boomers" are old guys who NOW would have sex with the hot teacher. They aren't putting themselves in the shoes of a teenage kid surrounded by teenage girls. These are old ladie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 09:08 PM
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datingoverthirty subreddit for sob stories Just looked at that sub and found very little of what you are talking about. (I guess a woman did get herpes from chad.) For the most part redditors over 30 seem to have the dating skills of teenagers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 08:18 PM
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Probably has more to do molestation and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 07:16 PM
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Cock carousel is just as real as the pussy parade, get out and ride it if you want. But actually most people's sex lives are extremely boring I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 07:15 PM
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Late 20s/early 30s, I dated 23, 24, 22 (married that one), barely anyone noticed or cared. The only time it felt weird was going to a dance club where I felt like the oldest person there. A few of my friends also got with younger women around this time. Oh, almost forgot. When I was 23 I hooked-up with a "40" yo woman - the sex was awful. She set me up with her friend's daughter who was 18 and in high school. I had just moved so I didn't really know many people and just rolled with it. Well she …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 06:45 PM
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Right, I remember being 11-12 and having creepy gay guys come onto me in some skanky men's room. I was scared!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 06:14 PM
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AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 07:09 AM
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Yeah, that occurred to me after I posted. Back in high school, the busty blonde prom queen was dating a college boy, and everyone said the guy was awesome and had a future (which he did) and nobody considered it creepy. And then there was the busty brunette goth girl who was dating an older guy with minimal employment and meth. And everyone thought he was a creep and tried to get her away from him. So you can't really talk about this without the crucial piece of info about the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 06:07 AM
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The true cuck is anyone devoting their brain waves to this lame old man drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 05:22 AM
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According to people here, Rollo is "high beta", because while he may have banged scores of girls in his younger days, he retired from the game and got married. I suppose instead he could have been one of those middle aged rock musicians with substance abuse issues and the same groupies from 25 years ago, and that would be more "alpha" per red pill. There's another argument that the alpha male impregnates a alpha female and raises alpha children, but not found here. (Note I have my suspicions tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 04:35 AM
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Nope. But wily 36 year old vixen manipulating a 70 year old man, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 03:13 AM
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From the women I've known this kinda thing is unfortunately common. My theory is perverts specifically target these younger pubescent girls not necessarily because they are total pedos, but because they know the girl's self-esteem is not fully formed, and they are not sophisticated enough to fight back or scream or whatever. It is essentially an ego attack where the loser wants to strike a woman before she becomes too powerful for him. Also IMO its core to red-pill theory of why women are attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 03:04 AM
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35M / 25F is probably okay. Beyond that, even as a guy, you gotta wonder. These huge age gap things reds like to talk about 1) rarely happen 2) are probably more of a sex thing than a real relationship, or 3) Golddigging. I mean some small percentage of women have older men as a legit sex fetish, but if I guy my age showed up with a 20 year old, I'd assume she's a sugarbaby and he's paying for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 02:38 AM
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I don't know about that. There was a front page story not long ago about a 22 year old guy who knocked up his 34 yo FWB (who was supposedly on BC), and decided to marry her. And the responses were about 50/50 "congrats!" and "WHAT IF YOU GENDER SWAPPED THIS!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 02:33 AM
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In my corner of the USA most people who are serious about this are open relationship/polyamory types who want the cuddles & "new relationship energy", and accept that goes both ways. Sounds similar to Russia. Terps have a serious aversion for this, for whatever reason, even though their ideal is to be the "alpha fucks".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 07:04 AM
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ex-boyfriend with irreconcilable differences, but the sex was good are very busy, or are moving away soon, or have some other reason they can't get serious just want good sex without all the 'mommy' stuff that often comes with boyfriend are also spinning plates and sugardaddy isn't cutting it anyway my experience is a lot of women engage in this stuff more tactically and intelligently than the RP stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 06:38 AM
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Absolutely true. And this thread is full of people saying "marriage is a risk!" "marriage is a bad deal!". But really it is having kids and buying a house with someone which is the risky deal, not "marriage" itself. Srsly, no kids/no property, you can get divorced for a $200 and a moving van. It is really not very much "commitment". (And even if you don't get married, kids/property will be a business partnership and a risk factor.) My guess is OP's ex either didn't want kids or didn't want kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 05:21 AM
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no, the older people get, the less they care about whether or not some other couple is officially married. right, people even start to refer to them as husband/wife, because that's how they behave even without the official piece of paper. (Also with the whole modern language around "partners" and "SOs" and etc its often not obvious a couple is married or not.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 05:04 PM
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This. Marriage for the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 04:58 PM
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Honestly this goes both ways, when the woman hits 30 and realizes that the musician/bartender boyfriend is never going to be mr. providerman. Some people are fine relationship material, but you don't want to be financially entangled with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 04:28 PM
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Average american man is 6 inches taller than average women. There was a study showing the average husband is 4 inches taller than the average wife. So if anything women are less biased towards height than they could be, and maybe couples of around the same size tend to get together. I didn't see any really crazy responses on the other thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:32 PM
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There's like one nut radfem who believes this and she's pretty much been blacklisted. However she came up with 80/20 before the entire manosphere did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 02:00 AM
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I don't think I've ever met a woman taller than me (6'4"), but the closer to my height the better. At some point I decided you had to be this high (5'6" or so) to ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:37 AM
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I mean it is a Q4W, and they'll take the high beta if that's an option. And actually the weird stuff about the second wife means almost no women would pick A. Not a good OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 06:05 PM
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Well then the existence of "high betas" BTFOs the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:17 PM
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haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:49 PM
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Also the casual sex culture isn't this exclusive club; as most men are in it. Nah, this is some weird RP projection that guys just want hookups and casual sex. Most men are pretty relationship-oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:46 PM
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I thought I had a lot of hot sex when I was a sophomore in college. But looking back on it, I was actually pretty bad at it and only made up for it by having a refractory period of about 30 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 02:28 PM
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In the US, you have one group of multigenerational Indian Americans who are extremely well integrated and another group of visa workers who are barely integrated and keep to themselves. I mean one indian guy I know is like the classic tall muscular chad football player who became a IP lawyer. However the reason I think Indians are especially attracted to PUA/RP stuff is because they pretty much have an explicit alpha/beta arranged marriage system. So you get these guys who want to shoot the moon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 05:26 PM
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You shouldn't assume exclusivity after any number of dates until you've had the talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 10:09 PM
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Yeah, its a weird outdated euphemism. If I was hanging out with a coworker or someone, I wouldn't say that we were "dating". But if they were bootie-calling me, I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:30 AM
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I dunno, but I'd meet women from the internet who had their own deal going on, and they weren't advertising it in their profiles either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:47 PM
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You might be surprised. PPD always portrays women as being super relationship/commitment-oriented but they're not necessarily looking for guys to urgently lock-down, especially younger women. And in my experience its actually easier if you're open about what you're up to rather than being a shifty player plate-spinning guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:30 PM
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I know a few guys who were divorced w/ no kids. IMO they were more credible (RMV) than a 35 year old who had never married. They all ended-up with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 03:35 PM
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Erhm. Your hypothetical future wife's gangbang quotient is a major concern here on purplepilldebate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 02:45 PM
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27 was exactly the age in this case too, fwiw. The female collective was marrying their college boyfriend despite whatever. Best man is telling us this stuff, and it was like this is really bad, and we don't even get to go to a stripclub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:47 AM
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Patriarchy is for winners. Being a winner always beats being a whiny loser regardless of ideology. I've been with a bunch of feminists, and OMG they all have their thing for theirs and another set of rules for everyone else. I mean, if you ever want to really confirm "alpha/beta" just get on the good side of some kinky sex-positive feminist girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:36 AM
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Right, re-reading my comment, you obviously can't do this kinda stuff unless you're 98.5% solid as a couple starting point. You can't "fix" anything this way. Swinging has never appealed to me personally, but there's stuff you can do together to keep it going. Our sex slow down didn't happen until like 8 or so years after we started swinging and it wasn't really swinging related Oh. By then, I'm sure your communication levels around this thing was 100x the average couple and you were so far off …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:16 AM
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Yeah, that was my experience meeting internet randos. The forum famous ppl were the extremely online types who spent all day behind a computer while being shy IRL. (Although that's probably less true of PPD which as an older audience.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:38 PM
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I don't know your situation, but IMO divorced RP guys constantly sell themselves short b/c their marriage ended poorly. If you had a happy relationship for X years, that puts you head-and-shoulders above half the guys posting here at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:30 PM
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If I understand this guy's story, he made a Big Deal out of it, but also made it clear he refuses to walk, which is probably the worst way to handle this sort of thing. I've posted this before, but someone once told me "either you stop fucking your wife, or you become swingers", so my guess is your solution is not uncommon. Something needs to evolve and change in a positive direction anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:27 PM
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Working with a biased UMC sample here but the women who were going to the gym before seemed to keep going. But a couple girls I knew from college became midwestern SAHMs and holy shit did they get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 05:05 PM
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I knew a couple who I'm pretty sure only got married because her friends were doing so. She went full bridezilla and the best man tried to stage an intervention, but he went through with it. Something wasn't right and she was scowling throughout the thing, nobody was having fun and it was one of the most depressing events I've ever attended, including funerals. I think they lasted about 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 04:48 PM
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even if it's actually plausible that my life may be destroyed if the relationship ends, and I never find a partner again. I don't behave like it. I think its a lot more plausible that if you've had 1+ "successful" relationships, you'd be able to get back on your feet and have another. Lots of stuff around here about "dread" and flirting with the waitress and who could gets ass on tinder, but the principle is actually on a longer time scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 05:48 PM
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Not intended to be any sort of brag, it was just a social convention. If a woman was sitting by herself prominently at the bar, she wanted guys to talk to her or buy her drinks etc. I wasn't necessarily the guy doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 03:24 PM
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Believe it or not, it is really, really, really easy to get women to have sex with you even when you're secretly not sex-positive, not liberal, not feminist, and kind of don't like or trust women inside your head. There are casual/OLD hookups where none of that matters. But for the subcultural "secret society" stuff, women certainly seem to have a nose for it. I'm in the middle about this , but cool, DTF, non-judgmental, non-braggart, sex-positive guy worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 04:41 AM
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I'm a pretty twenty-two year old woman, and I can sit and have sat at a bar alone all night without being approached. In my experience that's totally different than say 15 years ago. Girl at the bar -> guys would come up and talk. Like automatically. Maybe it ppl staring at their phones, maybe things have changed. Maybe you don't perceive guys hitting on you because they're "nice" about it, that was also true 15 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 04:25 AM
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In ye olden days, when you'd meet a girl through social circles, she would always "background check' you somehow. Like just to figure out if you weren't a serial killer or had a micropenis or whatever. Maybe social media serves this function now, but I still find it weird that non-desperate women will date men they know absolutely nothing about. I did meet some women on the internet (err even on craigslist), but they were always kinda messed-up or had some sort of deal going. Like any attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 04:06 AM
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The whole "spinning plates" thing, done right, assumes adult-level maturity and people who can deal with casual fwb relationships. At your age you should be focusing on hot flings and girlfriends and those kind of situations ... which will almost inevitably blowup just due to stage-of-life type stuff or whatever. Like almost nobody marries the person they're with at your age. They say it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert at something, and since you're 18, you can put tons of hours into gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 03:33 AM
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Counterpoint: when a woman is attracted to you, she'll often insist on splitting the bill (or even picking up the check) because she doesn't want to feel paid for or that she owes it to you. Whenever that happened, I always figured it was a very good sign I was going to get some. So AF/BB and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:23 PM
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Yep, internet "first date" is very different than someone you know IRL. More like a Date 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:15 PM
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Yeah, maybe the content on TRP has gotten better since the quarantine, or maybe they figured out why everyone thinks they are the same as incels. I get their POV especially for the younger guys, but shit don't take advice from some bitter 50 year old losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 05:08 PM
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Yep, I've been around the manosphere for a while, so I'm fairly red. However reddit TRP has always been a mgtow/incel recruiting station, and their obsession with AWALT and their no-win scenario around relationships always struck me as foolish. Yeah, you could cherry-pick a few of the more rational & successful guys' posts, but its hardly the general tone over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 10:16 PM
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I know a lot of women who have been sexually assaulted, if not raped, and I don't mean bra-snapping either. If you include everything, 1 in 4 actually seems kinda low ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 09:52 PM
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Wouldnt you say that RP describes the vast majority of women? Perhaps. But whenever "AWALT" gets debated on PPD, it always boils down to "women are women" or "women are female humans". And I guess I've been around women enough to know how they operate, so "AWALT" has never been a very useful concept for me. Individual differences are always going to matter more than than some generalization in this regard. Just saying that whenever TRP "proves AWALT", they didn't prove anything, they just found …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 07:08 PM
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I think you're right and "pair bonding" is actually a euphemism for something else madonna-whorey. A manwhore indeed will have diminished ability to bond through sex ("chad which never commits"). Conversely, women don't attach nearly as much importance to sex, as their main concern is for "emotional infidelity". One of my formative experiences was being in an open LDR when I was 18-19 yo and finding out I could fuck around while remaining 'pair-bonded' aka 'in love' with my girlfriend. I suppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 05:39 PM
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I'm not debating the general theory. I'm saying if they have a "sexual strategy" based on all women are AWALT, they shouldn't be surprised when the women they meet are very AWALTy. One thing TRP discounts is a lot of men "beta" their way into happy relationships & marriages. So TRP ends up with this donut shaped demographic of young thirsty guys and old cynical divorcees. Which means there's a huge amount of relationship "dark matter" they don't really account for. They just throw up their hands…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 05:10 PM
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You go to places (clubs, parties, etc) looking for behaviors that indicate that people are engaging in casual sex, you see those behaviors (because, duh, that's the purpose of those places), and some people do engage in casual sex, but not all of them, even the ones who may be drinking and flirting. Right. I've noticed that even progressive sex-positive type people tend to think "girls in short skirts = giant fuckfest (aka rape central)". When really most of them are there with their friends and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 04:28 PM
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A big problem with RP is they're generalizing about men/women on the SMP, when in reality a lot of the better kinds of people are "off the market" so to speak. Especially if you're talking about casual sex, after a certain age its mostly going to be the AWALTy of AWALTs. So there's a lot of confirmation bias there. "This woman does drugs and cheats on her husband - AWALT proven again!!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 04:04 PM
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Yeah, "dread" is like weird dead bedroom goes edgelord out of desperation shit. Whenever it comes up here, the reds can't figure out why the blues think the concept is repulsive. In actuality, you get external validation that your partner is attractive, and that's a entirely positive thing, no spooky fear or dread required.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 03:44 PM
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Meh, I think the premise is incorrect. All but the dumbest women put Chads in the fuckz0ne and consider them short term flings or FWBs. When women complain about guys not committing (which is more of a stereotype than an actual thing), its more about the Brads who don't have a plethera of options. And often that's only because men/women operate on a different time scale -- a lot of women want to be married by 30, and a lot of guys don't even think about marriage until they're 30+
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 03:31 PM
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Yeah, there's an acceptable age gap, which in the real world nobody really notices or cares about. It is really only on reddit where you encounter people with sTronG oPinOns about only dating with +/- 2 years ... I never run into these people in the real world. The big qualifiers are more like job, car, place to live and have loud sex, and then you're probably talking about a guy who's a little older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 03:19 PM
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I don't know about normal, but common enough. Once I was curious about my libido and asked around a bit. Conclusion was attractive people in their 20s/early-30s have a lot of sex (with each other).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 09:00 PM
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Honestly with the completely casual ONS thing the sex is usually terrible, like just get it over with. And the woman is often messed-up/on drugs/cheating/etc and not just there to celebrate your hawtness. There's a reason most people aren't into that thing. The good kinda casual is more the ongoing fwb thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 08:58 PM
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okay, you would know, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 12:15 AM
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It was a thing before someone turned it into a "kink". One college roommate's girlfriend would baby talk and call him daddy, and she was a conservative church girl, so it didn't seem kinky at all. I found it really annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:57 PM
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It is pretty common that a woman will suggest something kinky and her boyfriend is like no, I don't wanna. I think men are more likely to have weird fetishes, but base level kinkyness is higher among women. A lot of guys are straight vanilla. (maybe madonna/whore complex or who knows).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:54 PM
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Nah, women generally only have casual sex with guys who put out a sociosexual cool sex-positive vibe. And judging by your posts here, you've got a vibe issue in addition to whatever other issues. Needy validation stuff seeps through. Also normal guys who aren't keeping score of their n-count don't just wanna fuck any pick-me girl, they want the hot girls, and to get them your personality and status and logistics and everything has to be on-point. Not saying you can't get laid by posting abs on T…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:34 AM
2

Almost too old for the college hookup scene, better get cracking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:11 AM
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Lack of congruent social media is always a tell for these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:10 AM
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because they can intellectualize why their inhibitions are high That does make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:31 AM
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Yeah, don't believe the hype. In reality, a lot poly ppl don't want to date each other and want a little harem who is monogamous with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:18 PM
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Poly is a way of intellectualizing this, so of course they tend to be educated. Doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of dumb lower class people who can't spell polyamory fucking around on each other. Also noted that nerd communities tend towards poly, no surprise when the men outnumber women 4:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:01 PM
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People here love to obsess over the top 10% promiscuous people of both genders. Most people's sex lives are actually not all that interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 04:23 PM
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I agree. if you gender flip this, the kind of guy who jerks off to tentacle dickgirls all day does not have a high sex drive, in fact he's trying to kill his libido. The guy who is going out, working out, has the drive to look for sex not just stroke his weenie.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 04:16 PM
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Yep, years later, Fast Times always felt like real stuff. On the other hand, Dazed and Confused: if we were honest, that was the teenaged lifestyle we wanted to emulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:20 AM
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Wouldn't say it is common, but I've seen situations where it seemed like the woman's plan was 1) marry a guy have the big wedding etc 2) push out 1-2 kids 3) divorce the guy within 5 years 4) get back with the old boyfriend. And it is completely brutal when you hear the woman explain how this was a sensible course of events.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 04:04 PM
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It is both. Lack of social cred often means you're just invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 04:55 PM
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Zero normal discussion about this on reddit. Its either terps talking about their weird 15 year age gap sexual affairs or people going OMG POWER IMBALANCE if the guy is a couple years older. A lot of women like guys who are a little older, and in the real world nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 04:35 PM
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Pretty sure the guy behind TBBT is red pill and writing characters to these archetypes to some degree, eg 2 and Half Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 03:46 PM
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Its not formulated in terms of soft power, instead its some edgy dark triad "apply level 7 dread bwahhahah". And then they wonder why ppl find this revolting. There's a non objectionable way to formulate this idea but terps are too far gone to accept it. edit also "give me a raise or I'll quit" doesn't work either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 03:38 PM
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This is true. However the NiceGuy does have some sort of weird thought process like "If Becky was my gf, I'd give her footrubs and chocolate kisses everyday, Chad just ignores her to talk to his buddies, what a jerkass." But then the two biggest chad bullies from my school turned out to be leatherfags.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 12:08 AM
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You're right in the market sense. What I should have said is that getting older does not make you more attractive in the rating sense (although other things might), which is the naive reading of the chart. You don't turn 32 and join the HG8 league, you just have more options wherever you are batting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 11:24 PM
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But I'm not sure if those are really radfems or just normal fems who are imaging the typical redditor as a disgusting neckbeard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:36 PM
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Well, college is its own island. What I'm getting at is 23 yo Stacy would rather have 29 yo Chad than 24yo Brad. Which gives Chad more time to dick around before settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:25 PM
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At 30 yes, but that's about where the chart starts to diverge from reality. If someone (either sex) hasn't been married by mid-30s there's often a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:52 PM
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Yeah, but its not so much what men want, but women's willingness to date older men (and how much older). Which makes sense if "high value" men are as rare as RP says, women should cast a wider net.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:50 PM
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I think a more reasonable interpretation is men have a few more years to find and lock down that higher value woman. In reality, dating in your 30s sounds pretty awful where people are picking over the left overs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:10 PM
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ah, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:02 PM
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lol, years ago I looked at a radfem blog, and they were talking about "Nigels", which were like the only men acceptable to date, but obviously weren't setting their pants on fire. But most radfem discourse is mostly just about how most men are awful and the pills here lose their shit when you point that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 03:42 PM
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This is a good take. The TLDR is men's dating pool grows much larger with age because women will date older men. So not necessarily that men's SMV increases with age, but more that the numbers start to work in men's favor. And not necessarily in the 10-15 year age gap that TRP likes to talk about about, but a 30 yo man can date 22-32 yo women and nobody will blink (in the real world, not reddit). But, IMO the chart is either wishful thinking or intentional delusion, I'd put male peak at more lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 02:43 PM
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Yep, "Stacy" doesn't get pumped-n-dumped. Plus 99% of men are attracted to her, so she understands that puts the onus on her to open with any man she might be interested in. Which doesn't mean she doesn't want to be pursued or make a choice. Just she knows she gotta separate the wheat from the chaff first. Also Stacy isn't necessarily blonde, take that from a blond.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:24 AM
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My speculation is that people have to figure out on their own how to "boyfriend/girlfriend". But when they get married, they "know" what it should be like based on their parents' fucked-up relationship, and judge things by that standard. I know several guys who married who they should have (on paper at least) only to have the woman sabotage the relationship for her own reasons. (Maybe alpha fux are never going to be pure βux.) And these guys had a far better story on the RMV in their 30s that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:03 AM
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He had series of STR’s and FWB and always claimed he was “bad at relationships.” I was responding to the quote in the OP that women wanted to see demonstrations of commitment. This is a thing that maybe only one RP badge-holder around here really gets. Lower value women were DQing themselves for LTR, because of ""dread"" or whatever. And he was prob "playing by the rules" and couldn't figure what happened and blamed himself when it didn't work out. Their theorizing doesn't really encompass the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:27 AM
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That sounds a lot like my experience (mid-late 90s), nobody cared about the football team (ppl played sports not watch them), rager getting called off (snitches), caring more about your college apps than your HS classes, and STEM weed-out. Right about the hobbies. MMPORGs have probably created 10x more incels than all the free hardcore porn in the world combined. Video games went from nerds creating pure fun/adrenaline to hiring psychologists to target weaknesses in the customer's brain. However…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:51 AM
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Since Elliot Rodger was the example, I have to wonder how much this has to do with being socially maladjusted and mentally ill versus the societal narrative. Also occasionally someone shows up on TRP who spent their youth just trying to figure out how to survive and couldn't worry about girls, and yeah some people just have shitty circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:34 PM
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👍 just adding some context here that this has never happened to that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:33 PM
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You are arguing with someone eligible for AARP who hasn't been on a date since high school. None of his stuff is based on personal experience or is even relevant to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:26 PM
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Maybe the american high school experience has changed, but when I was there it was mostly about sports and socialization with a small amount of academics thrown in. Do these people who are supposedly living a lie have eyeballs? Elliot Rodger was disliked by his video game buddies, his roommates, etc. He diagnosed his problem as "girls", but it was really "people".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:12 PM
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Best cucktroll ever! Redpills are still bedazzled by this reddit fakepost five years later (and probably forever). Let me ask everyone -- has anyone ever heard about this kind of thing happening IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:56 PM
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All hail Kyler Murray, Official King of the Manlets!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:01 AM
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Eh, if you're going to do this, you might as well have above-board open relationships. Might prevent someone from getting shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 07:45 PM
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If you want someone good, you might have to steal them from someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:00 PM
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Obviously you don't make a big deal out of it, but I was concerned about informed STI risk. And what I found is it really didn't make much of a difference because they already pretty much knew, and hey at least you weren't trying to play them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:57 PM
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Right, they're happy you're not trying to play them (which doesn't really work anyway). Maybe "don't care" is even the wrong way of putting it, because in some cases I'd even get a positive reaction. Women know that's the male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:51 PM
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Probably some truth to that, but some people get it out of their system in their teens. The more LTR-oriented people are simply off the market (SMP) most of the time so pill-type people don't talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:30 PM
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My experience is you can tell women you're seeing other people, because if they see you as desirable, they expect you might be seeing other people. (Or they'll figure it out really quickly as soon as you are time constrained.) And even if they aren't seeing other people, guys will want a hang-out phase before getting serious. Trying to dodge this question with some TRP A&A BS really doesn't work unless the woman is a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:13 PM
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The thing is most just don't care. Exactly what I found when I took the more 'ethical' approach, I thought women might run for the hills, but it turned out it is actually sorta expected. I guess if you think about it, women have first/second experience with how this and how men play it, while most guys don't. And also women have their own ways of spinning plates, and if you're not open with them, you'll never figure out exactly what their deal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:58 PM
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Correct. Also I think you're correct about RP dating/plating strategy being a "full time job", and that's a major flaw with it -- It puts you in the mode of constantly swiping, messaging, going on shitty internet dates and chasing new pussy. Eventually that's going to detract from your "mission" and you're going wanna know you can get laid on any given Sunday, which usually means LTR. So maybe it works for young guys, old (post-divorce) guys, guys not ready yet to get into a new LTR, but RP is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:49 PM
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This is the point in the argument where deadbed Redpills sneer "beta cuck!" at guys objectively 100x more successful than them, because they aren't Al Capone or James Bond or whoever RPs are jerking-off too. RP framework has higher regard for Mark Mitner (unemployed drunkard MGOTW phony, google him), than it does for Barack Obama.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:50 AM
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PPD discussion is all BEEP_BOOP Logical_Gender_Strategy.exe, but there are like a ton of other relevant factors about whether this would be effective or not. Genital arousal being a huge thing -- her little head will eventually convince her big head to either stay away or come around. Makeouts work for this, dinner dates do not. My CMV is woman can catch a alfalfa-type guy at the right time and park herself in his bedroom (and kitchen), and potentially win him over. RP theory is way overly optim…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:35 AM
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Both. Behavior with women is almost entirely learned through experience, and the more 'alpha' type guys started messing with girls in their early teens and just have a lot more experience. Stuff TRP complains about like friendzone/oneitus are largely rookie type mistakes. And actually there are a lot of good-looking privilege guys who have very 'beta' mentalities, because their dealings with women have largely been on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 03:57 PM
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With Harris at least, its a particular San Francisco "open city" thing which has gone back to gold rush days. IMO Dem party as a whole is still too second-wave for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:43 PM
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You might bet a different impression from the pillosphere, but in reality men don't sit around discussing how Britnay is huge big slutburger and we'd never wife-up a skank with a slagtag, and its actually more like we laugh at our bros when they go off and doink some rando girl with tits bigger than their head or whatever questionable tattoos or they tell you they felt bad for the nineteen year old stripper they were fucking and gave her greyhound money to move back home, and can you believe so-…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:57 PM
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With this sort of thing you are really fighting human biological reproductive instinct. Maybe marriage and kids aren't top priority, particularly in her early/mid 20s, But 3 years of sex with a good stable guy, and her body starts telling her something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:15 PM
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Rational Male Rollo paints LTRs as this bleak depressing no-win AF/BB hypergamy scenario. But he has also been happily married for 20 years. So either he isn't telling us everything, or perhaps he's just flexing on the mgotwcels who read his site.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:16 AM
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Maybe not so much support for the children, but the issue is support for the under-employed boyfriend who moves into the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 02:50 AM
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Hmm, actually thinking about it I know of a number of short marriages, but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it, just that so-n-so was married for a while. 1 ) she wouldn't have sex before marriage, or after marriage apparently. 2) she needed a visa. 3) she was a domineering megabitch and he couldn't take it anymore. 3) he was buying a house and she wanted half of it, cheated on him the whole time. 4) he needed a visa. 5) she drove herself nuts trying to mate guard him. 6) he is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:12 AM
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IMO the only thing the OKC study proves is OKC was a shitty place to look for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 11:52 PM
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Too busy to dig through my post history, but someone here posted an actual study showing that women also rate men in a normalized distribution, but slightly lower than men rate women. Of course women also have higher standards than men, but internet dating is obviously a biased population & men and women engage with it differently. (edit: Also internet voting behavior is never a normalized distribution.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:34 PM
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Women's libidos are all over the place, and (I had to learn this the hard way) some people are just going to be incompatible on that level. I see posts on reddit where guys say they have "a lot" of sex with their SOs and then say its once a week, but hey they seem happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:10 PM
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Whenever I hear about that shit, I go back to the old "there's no girls on the internet" and assume it must be creepy old gay guys catfishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:44 PM
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Hmm, I don't know, but I think there's a lot of dudes with some low-level madonna/whore complex (who aren't necessarily making a big stink about it on the internet), and women have their little tests around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:42 PM
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Not really a fan of those types of psychological tactics, I think they'd come off as unnatural more often than not. But when my ex was dating, she wanted to know how I got her into bed the first night, so I let on some of my secrets. (venue changes, good logistics, maybe some push-pull.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 04:32 PM
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Atlas said something here which reminded me of what a gf said about an orbiter. "I've got guys hollering at me on the street, why should I worry if this guy secretly likes me?" Then you consider that most guys would fuck their female friends if they could, but instead keep the peace, and the beta orbiter guy is not really any different in that respect (until he loses his shit).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:05 PM
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Saw a movie like this on cable once except I think the nerd paid the hot girl to pretend to be his girlfriend, turned out she was a secret nerd and they fell in love. Prob stuck in my mind because it was so betabuxy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:26 PM
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Seems like women will bring this up only after you've been seeing each other for a while, and then mostly because they want to tell you about their own N. So I agree most women don't see it as that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:21 PM
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ha, I couldn't even stand it when girlfriends would pull that shit, I can't even imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:52 PM
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Srs its a common trait I noticed. Even if a woman is conventionally attractive, she had a bad time in the middle school FSM and had to opt out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:42 PM
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IMO this is true, and the interesting women are the ones who didn't get the personality beaten out of them in middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 02:41 AM
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In probably the most fraudulent marriage I've heard of, the guy said "I've never been good with women, so I bought her the house," so yes some guys do think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:17 AM
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If that upper middle class nerdy guy with the engineering degree and the good job was also hot, social, fun, and interesting Its funny because I know a lot of guys liked this who looked around and realized there were only 3 girls in their classes and thought "oh shit!", so they knew better join a frat/clubs and be the fun party guy. Some of them may have even overcompensated a bit. The guys who had trouble with this tended to be religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:59 AM
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Boldface and angry tone says otherwise, but I'll take your word for it bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:36 AM
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Most women you meet are not going to want to touch your penis, so if you don't figure out how to compartmentalize you will have social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:58 PM
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Maybe I just like being around attractive women. I guess I'm able to find someone attractive without necessarily being overly attracted to them. Part of this is having multiple irons in the fire, aka "abundance".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:07 PM
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I think the only time it ever really worked for me was when I got back together with an old girlfriend and then she started seeing a good buddy of mine (who didn't know), and it was like okay we better figure out how to be good with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:36 PM
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Yep, it is expected that you cut off old FWBs when you get serious with someone. Well, you can remain friendly but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:40 PM
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If she did, they would have had sex, or enter a FWB relationship Nah, there's plenty of women who aren't really equipped for the fuck-your-friends FWB thing. So it could just be the opposite, she knows he would "plate" her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:26 PM
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Why do red pill men so vigorously defend beta/omega behavior? Most guys get over this shit in their fucking teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:20 PM
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I don't know about Stink, but I was out there for like 15 years, maybe half that time in relationships, it just adds up after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:43 PM
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well, if you want to find drunk women, college parties are the place to go. I think its more that educated people have future-time orientation and a lot of time, so its more about Mr Right Now than Mr Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:15 AM
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Preddy much except high n-count men try to delude themselves into thinking that theyre sooooo desirable to virgins IMO this is the basis of that another thread where these guys are completely buttblasted about "sex-positivity". There is that mellow open guy who is cool to explore sexuality with, but the entire red pill mantra turns them into the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:09 AM
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Nobody knows any cute tomboys over the age of 13 or so or whenever the FSM beatdown starts to occur. So OP needs to clarify if we're talking about genderqueers or "cool girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:51 AM
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tldr; look good "for your age" and age-appropriate chads will still give you the bidness. (watch out for your teenage daughters tho)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:03 AM
2

The tone on TRP is more whiny mcbitchtits than anything else. There's a reason they get associated with incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:26 AM
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I've known so many above average guys with high standards and low interest in casual sex (letting fate decide when they "get lucky" while single). Obsession with casual sex and one's n-count seems particular to the red pill mentality, and hardly a way to measure a man. In fact if I knew a guy was counting the notches on his bedpost the way terps do, I'd assume he's dumpster diving and lose respect for him. (I'm probably slightly above your range and mostly it just happened.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 11:51 PM
0

Be down to fuck. Don't be not down to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 05:14 PM
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Agree with you, those type of people suck. Some ideas - only date actual alpha/chad types, not the fake RP kind. the kind of guy who has a FWB or two is generally really laid back about this stuff do something really kinky that would scare them away. one gf tossed my salad on the first night and we were together for years. meanwhile my friend didn't want to see a girl because she gave him head which I thought was bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:54 PM
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Its funny because I have some vivid memories of women I DIDN'T have sex with for various reasons, but there others where we were together for months and the whole thing is now rather blank in my mind. But yeah I remember some specifics of LTRs and some of the crazy stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:27 PM
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Probably the best takeaway I've read on the topic is "the best game is simply not having any anti-game". The fact its even called "game" is because some men find it unnatural and it has to be taught (not often successfully?) rather than learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:18 PM
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I wouldn't say it is an act, but so much of that scene is an illusion. Who wants to be a boring person who does nothing but stats homework when you can have a hot party chick persona, dress real sexy, get drunk and kiss your girlfriends while the guys scream WOOO! And at the end of the night just go home and not end up being pumped by dadbod Brad or doing rails of coke until the sun comes up. Same thing with guys really, they want to act like huge partiers at that age. Mentioning this because lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 04:09 PM
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Not the exact same thing. Tinder might have a lot of bots and old fags catfishing for dick pictures, but the Match business model seems to be paying attractive women to appear active on the site, vs running the bots themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:50 AM
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Truly high value men don’t care about a woman’s degree, achievements, or earning potential. Since they have been taught that it’s their responsibility to provide all those things, they already have them. They don’t need 2 of everything they want. If anything, a woman having all of these things is a negative, as it takes away potential time, mental, and emotional resources that could have been spent on their man. Any men who disagree with this are either virtue signaling or aren’t truly high valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:27 AM
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I dunno, but a "college 5" is not too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:13 PM
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I don't think guys dumpster dive as much as TRP projects. (hmm, maybe TRP are the dumpster divers). But there are some decent looking guys who have some down-low thing for fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:07 PM
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Yeah, its true people catch feels even when they weren't meaning to. But OP has this super pornographic view of "women", but ime the % of women who actually do that kinda shit are generally pretty equipped for it. Also women who really like sex generally don't get with Billy Betas who are a bad lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:37 PM
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I dunno, but this entire post is projection from some guy who's probably never been on a date and was watching porn while typing it up. But he's right about one thing, women put "sex guys" in a different category where they are just flings/fwbs/fuckbuddies. Women need emotional insulation to not get serious about these guys. It doesn't always work, but usually it does. "Chad wouldn't commit" is rarely the reason they moved on. AF/BB theory is for the most part fail mode, Most women really do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:07 AM
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They are correct, its a problem with the overly simplistic autismo alpha/beta theory. Most women won't give the alpha fux to guy unless he's also bringing the beta bux. Often this is in the form of status not necessary money. Hot teenaged girls fucked me in high school partially because of my dad's job, how do you explain that? Well, somewhere in the deep recesses of every women's mind is "what if he gets me pregnant?" (This autism is also why RPs are obsessed with women having sex with criminal…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:39 AM
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Its something I also never really figured out. If I liked someone as a person, I just couldn't be the zip-up-and-leave type, actually that would ruin the sex for me. So I tried to define things as "open" and let it live in that ambiguous zone. But maybe that's an even bigger mindfuck because it never really worked long-term either. But at least there was the pillow talk and all that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:25 AM
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Possibly, but there's way more men active there than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 01:00 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me. An old friend was being bribed by Match to make her profile appear active, same company.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 12:09 AM
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Women get dates and boyfriend and stop using it relatively quickly - at least that's how it was explained by someone in the industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 12:07 AM
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I'd suspsect a significant portion of people who got together on social media are in the same extended social circle. So meeting "online" is just the more efficient way of meeting "through friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 05:48 PM
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So valuable that it would destroy their business if men knew the real numbers. The whole thing is there' far less "real" women on there than it appears. And many of the real women who are on there are not really actively trying to date. Not to say that people don't manage to hookup on there. But if most men knew the actual gender ratio of OLD they would be right back down at the sportsbar hitting on fat chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 07:11 AM
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I don't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 02:11 AM
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I dunno, but I watched my ex-gf use OLD and she cast a pretty wide net because she was looking for a boyfriend. But I think a lot of women on OLD aren't really looking. Usual OLD complaint from guys: low/bad matches. Usual OLD complaint from girls: too many crappy first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:45 PM
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Yep, plus women are bombarded by so many dudes on OLD they need some sort of crude heuristic to sort them out, so height or whatever. Especially if they aren't that interested in finding someone there in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:51 PM
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Its all kinda post-PUA backlash, but incels (modern version) and "just lift bro" came from pretty much the same corner of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:37 PM
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It's cute when a sub 25yo tinderella requests a man over 6'2. she has no idea how much she just reduced her dating pool. Yeah, a lot of women don't use OLD seriously, they're just window shopping or taking a long shot for the D1 athlete pre-med guy. Those are her standards for random dudes from the internet, not necessarily what she's expecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:43 PM
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Lookism/LMS was the original red pill. TRP is what you get when you merge that with inner game stuff and Rollo's doom-n-gloom. Kinda two peas in a pod.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:29 PM
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A lot of Beta Pill posting too -- She must have fucked Chad on the first date, but not me, waaaah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:24 PM
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As a young guy, its easy to go into defeatist mode ... I haven't gotten laid in months.. the last girl I approached didn't like me... A lot of the RP stuff is rah-rah for the average frustrated chump (or at least was originally intended to be.) Also women are more sensitive to these supposed IOIs. Like lol the waitress is probably not flirting. Or from gay men where like who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:17 PM
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According to my google spreadsheet cell G254, she's been using the "in a coma" excuse for 19 days now, see my related post in r BigDickProblems
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:01 AM
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RP theory is Beta = BAD. So there is no winning with women unless you are a 75 year old rock star still fucking groupies from the 1970s. Sometimes they'll show some non-basement-dwellernesss and say Beta is not necessarily Bad. But then guys like above will still whip it out as an insult. You can be King Shit and you're still "high beta" to some small pecker putz who got dead-bedroomed and divorce raped. Even Bill Clinton is just a "high beta" to these guys, what a horrible outcome..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:33 AM
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More like being a short brown guy who is destined for arranged marriage with a village girl is a touchy subject around here. The desperation for "hot blondes" deffo comes from a certain segment. As a "hot blond" I wish I had the answer but those girls can be tuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:18 AM
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Yep, sounds like a 100% power play, if you would have wavered she would have laughed. Take a blue pill and fuck your wife or whatever and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:05 AM
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Note that the red pill outlines an effectively a no win scenario, so there will always be someone on internet to call you a beta cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:48 AM
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The main factor is social media /OLD. Agreed, but there are a lot more guys who have essentially given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:23 AM
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Eh, I did more or less the same thing predating TRP, I think its a fairly natural trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:07 AM
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IMO, this is an internet only argument because the assumption is every internet poster is a neckbearded basement-dweller. IRL it is fine for men to have standards, so long as he can pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:22 AM
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Counter scenario: She's intending on making Chad wait, but his good looks plus his skills at seduction and sexual escalation get her change her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:19 AM
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I'll just point out the internet is full of guys who are "too far gone" with porn, or have escalated to camgirls or w/e. (keep in mind the cam stuff is where the profits are and the free porn is just advertisement for that)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:10 PM
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Yeah, I notice that collectively they don't have any real grasp on a realistic 'metric of success'. Or how much of the casual sex thing is subcultural "fwb guys". So they are very frustrated about something hardly anyone actually does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:01 PM
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Maybe fetish stuff, but really if a woman ever thinks a man chose porn over her, he's fucking dead in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 05:01 PM
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I know of a couple IRL relationships where porn use became an issue, maybe not the primary one but it contributed. In both cases the women were early/mid 20s and were good-looking enough they could do porn themselves. But the fact is this shit really fucks some guys in the head, and that's gotta be a factor in all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:46 PM
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I think a lot of generalizations are made here forgetting that most "high value" ppl have taken themselves off the sexual marketplace and aren't out dating, so you don't see them a lot after say early 20s. There are tons of men who have very little interest in polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:41 PM
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I think I'm done here. I've mean seen a few convos here which are like this: Dude: "WAAHH! Chad gets to fuck a new women very weekend and I don't! Life fucking sucks!" PPD: "Don't worry about that, just find a looks-matched GF that you like to be around, that's how most every guy does it." Dude: "Actually I have a good girlfriend and a good set of friends and family. But I am STILL FUCKING PISSED that I cant bang random sloots like Chad!!!!" I mean, sexlessness or whatever, but my impression is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:31 AM
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Knew that exact kind of place, and it was always kinda interesting how Teen Cumsluts IX in the backroom was subsidizing the slow moving French New Wave library upfront. edit also: Even Hitler Had A Girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 05:04 AM
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Yeah, because they went entirely the other way and are now like: "Me Big Dumb Guy with no personality. Girl think me look good and fuck anyway. (But never call back?!) What U's lifts? U no get fucked cuz ur lifts suck and U not big enough. " So TRP's unstated function has always been Reddit Incel Recruiting Station. Throw in a bunch of other shit that has nothing to do with "sexual strategy' and woah they got blackholed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:38 AM
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I'm glad when I was younger that was seen as an unobtainable rockstar/pro athlete thing. I knew plenty of Chad-types and they might have had hookups and fuckbuddies but they weren't pulling new girls like that. And yes, it is validating when a girl just wants to fuck. But it is also very not validating when that's all she wants to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 03:51 AM
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Its funny because the biggest proponents of "looks don't matter" were the pickup people in the manosphere. TRP exists because the PUAhaters won the day. The mainstream/blue advice was always more like "looks don't matter as much to women". Which is true, but probably should have been phrased more like "almost as much, but they're still very important."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 03:43 AM
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lel, its hard to take this sexless stuff seriously when guys with girlfriends are bitching and crying they can't get laid like NBA stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:58 PM
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40-50% of women HAVE watched porn. The frequency of how often they look at it is probably an order of magnitude less then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:38 PM
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Ha, I remember being like 14 and sitting around with a bunch of guys watching a VHS with a super-awkward boner. It just wasn't very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:03 PM
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Sexual disenfranchisement is a uniquely male problem. And what is society's default response to a male problem, apart from "who cares" ? There are other issues such as 40% of births being out of wedlock, and society's response is also pretty much "who cares?" Nobody is going to fix this for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:58 PM
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Have to agree here. I always thought there was a substantial difference between looking at some titties versus hardcore video porn, even when I was 14 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:55 PM
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real talk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:32 PM
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I dunno but maybe these guys t-levels are dropping and they're starting to get a little poofy and are checking out the college boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:01 PM
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Homosexual paradise!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:16 PM
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Yeah doing it all the time gets old. However once a year or so I meet some old buddies somewhere in the desert and we get wasted for old times sake. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 12:07 AM
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IMO a lot of this RP stuff is working around the fact these guys have poor social circles or not a lot of male friends. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 12:03 AM
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Yeah, pick up was naive about physical attraction, but at least they weren't preaching this fatalistic 80/20 stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:13 PM
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Agreed, the concept is too generalized to be of any actual utility, which is why TRP is full of confused guys posting "I did this thing, am I alpha now?" You can't actually analyze social interactions in this framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:03 PM
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I'm between 5'10-6'0 translation: I'm 5'9" but fudge on my dating profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:55 PM
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lel at thinking any hot young girls read People magazine. Srs, there's a distinct minority of young women who some have a sexual fetish/kink for men of "a certain age". Most women want nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:54 AM
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Yep, I know of few women who stopped talking the pill after X years and were like "holy fucking shit, I actually have a sex drive!" (Especially awkward when their live-in boyfriend is a short balding hunch-shoulder guy with some social cred.) All ancedata, but I'm kinda a hippie about that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:35 AM
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18-20 women can coast on their high school athletics or "eating disorder". After that they should take the Pink Pill and hit the gym. edit: not trivializing actual eating disorders here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:24 AM
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Men also don't refer to the women they're sleeping with as "plates" and are mostly respectful of them. I doubt most go on the internet to brag, so you'd have to ID a specific terp-type that would do this. Male sexuality is generally gross and even other men don't like hearing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:03 AM
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Guys don't really brag about anyone they're sleeping with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:57 AM
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Yeah, I was going to say I've a couple close friends imply they were into bdsm, but they weren't bragging or going into details because no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:56 PM
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I don't know, but perhaps it has increased pressure to spend time with photogenic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:09 PM
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They were out specifically looking for that kind of attention, rather than getting it while sitting on the toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:08 PM
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Or bdsm guys with their sub on the side. Occasionally I'll lurk the poly reddit just to rubberneck what a shitshow it is for most people. Kinda a bucket of ice on the "poly is so evolved" stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:28 PM
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I'm looking at it from the 'how SM got me laid' perspective, it was women I didn't really actively hit on and probably would have never spoken to ever again. But barrier for contacting someone is so much lower and can be done covertly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:24 PM
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Key difference IMO is people participate in OLD selectively. A lot of women who have profiles are only window-shopping or testing the market, and maybe chads have their hands full and aren't swiping. Meanwhile everyone (almost) has a SM profile. Plus, as TGP points out there are a lot of attractiveness triggers which can't be conveyed by photos alone and SM is people who presumably know you IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:20 PM
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Nah, he's right, I remember when the feminist presence on the internet was a handful of tiny blogs. You needed platforms like Tumblr Twitter Reddit etc for the masses could get on-boarded and start expressing opinions. And it wasn't just "men" but a particular type of person who could engage in long-form communication on blogs and forums (or previously usenet). Donald Trump wouldn't be shitposting daily if it wasn't for Twitter for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 03:59 PM
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Yeah, that's stereotype of poly people and the image I had as well. Then an attractive friend of mine told me she was polyamorous (I had thought she was just extremely loose). We went to this meet up and it was a bunch of stunningly attractive people in their 30s, rich tech guys and etc, and not a single blue-haired dungeon master or body-positive genderqueer to be found. So maybe its like the swinger scene where they have private groups and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 03:25 PM
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I'm mostly in agreement. However it's not really because women are "bombarded by betas" and getting their ego polished by little buzzes on their phone. Its because social media gives women a catalog of every chadly guy they've ever known, and they can sit around and compare them. So instead of choosing between the few guys who are actively trying to get into her pants, that one guy she was crushing on from high school or w/e is still right there in front of her. A lot of hookups were "two ships …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 03:07 PM
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Keep in mind they're friends with the boyfriend, so there would be some plausible deniability here. Plus she's like 19 and complaining on 2x. So I'm not seeing the "fuck the shit out of you" guy as your typical B.O.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:24 PM
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I participated in some psych experiments when I was a college student. I sometimes felt like I was giving the answer I "should" rather than "would". So in this case I should approach the woman, even though I'm not some guy who bothers women in the grocery store.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 11:21 PM
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Most women absolutely hate being hit on in the grocery store, to the point where they will go to lengths to avoid it. So for a more valid experiment you'd have to put her in a bar or someplace more socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:57 PM
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Its funny because women will say it really fast to get to the boyfriend part. But I've had a couple good friendships start that way, so I guess it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:09 PM
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Basically both girls and boys play this “platonic friendship” game where they both overtly say it’s non-sexual, and really seem to mean it... Whilst both (under the hood) know what is really going on (the guy fancies the girl, and the girl is happy to be friends knowing this is the case). And it also frequently happens in reverse where women are 'orbiting' men they find attractive even if they are not specifically interested in him, or he has an SO etc. People like having other attractive people…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:00 PM
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Attractive women have a way of telling "boyfriend stories" as a preemptive thing. Like "Have you ever been to restaurant? My boyfriend and I went there and... (hey, don't get any ideas)"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 05:43 PM
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Nah, completely different than with men. More like the recognition that you would smash, if circumstances were different, but they aren't so you don't think about it. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:52 PM
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I can find someone attractive without necessarily being attracted to them, but it seems like a lot of people can't make that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:12 PM
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Yeah, there's the oneitus friendzone thing, but in the generic sense everyone orbits everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:01 PM
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Honestly I've only known one girl who is your girl version of you. And since she could charge for it and enjoy it anyway, if she was giving it to you, it was because she sorta sympathized for the male sexual state and pitied you in some way. She was a slut avenger in that way. First in line for the rebound or there to fix the dead bedroom. Good luck finding another woman like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:09 AM
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Still have my bachelor place with the antique flea market furniture and mismatched plates (and linen sheets) - man's natural state is pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:22 AM
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yeah, for maximum drama, it has to be free houses and not like who makes the car payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:41 PM
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Maybe some truth there and maybe the guy is happier in his one bedroom flat with the mattress on the floor and his playstation, just looking at it from the perspective of the guy who lost the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:41 PM
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I think there's possibly a better argument here that extra money goes into furniture and remodeling and "house" stuff rather than cakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:17 PM
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The thing is there's nothing stopping people from thinking this way and planning for a hypothetical future divorce, and indeed maybe some more wealthy people do think that way. However you'll never get the average person in this frame. Also in most cases ppl actually have jack to their name and far more debts than assets so its unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 05:13 PM
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Then there is the question of what kind(s) of boyfriend(s) my mother might have ended up with had she left my dad. Perhaps the kind that likes diddling teenaged stepdaughters? Who knows? I think people vastly underestimate how much of an issue this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:41 PM
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Everything I know about family law comes from mgotw dot com /s But srs, child support is given out pre-tax, so ppl can find themselves in an unfavorable situation where they're paying single person taxes while still supporting the kids. Also real estate inflation in parts of the country means ppl are living in homes they couldn't afford if they had to start over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:38 PM
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The legal (fault divorce) and social (taboo against divorce) mechanisms It always was the latter way more than the former. There was nothing really stopping the man from leaving town or the woman taking the kids and moving back in with her parents. However everyone in town or at their church or their third cousins would gossip about them and consider them failures. The atomization of society is what lead to the lack of 'consequence' for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 04:09 PM
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Honestly at-fault divorce always sounded like the stupidest thing to me. Both sides would just allege emotional abuse and air all their dirty laundry about U drink too much! U said that thing! U threw that thing against the wall! In front of the kids! While meanwhile the judge is just falling asleep because really nobody cares, they're getting divorced anyway. But i dunno, maybe some guys really like giving their money to lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 02:38 PM
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Ha, I worked with someone who met his wife on AOL or some shit way back when, but that was def not normal. Good real talking posts from someone who's actually out there btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 12:36 AM
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Actually I think on some level there is a physical chemistry. Certain women I've really clicked with have just smelled good, tasted good, and just seem like a more natural fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:27 PM
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Depends. Do you have "gazoombas?" If so he didn't seem that particular about age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:31 AM
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As an old person, but not so old I didn't see this happening, I don't think the geezer squad here understands how much social media has changed social circle interactions. A lot of the signaling and flirting which used to occur publicly while "going out" is now going on privately on people's phones. Plus there's not that super urgency of "we might never see each other again", because you can connect on SM and slow burn that way. And people can just hit up anyone they've ever known. Plus a lot wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:10 AM
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lmfo, this guy I worked for, lets see if you want him. He already had like 4 kids from 3 women and then he was soooo happy when he knocked up some 37 year old blonde shiksa. Dat alpha bux. Like 6'4", wealthy and looked it, totally smooth ladies man type and not a pussy-grabber. Women of a certain age acted like teenage girls around the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:49 AM
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Right, my personal takeaway on that OKC thing is the amazon.com model for dating sites is a shitty experience for women. Eventually even OKC figured this out and changed how the site works to make it more Tinder-like. Also note the Tinder "study" in OP is based on TWO fake profiles and keeps coming back here despite it being notoriously crap. (And, knowing how puahaters that do this kind of thing think, the attractive guy was a legit male model and the unattractive guy was a picture they found o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:29 AM
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Men have always masturbated like fiends, but they used to be looking at the victoria secret catalog or other pictures of boobs and ideating about Betsy from school. Pre-Pornhub, men who regularly used hardcore video pornography were generally regarded as guys who had completely given up. We didn't have a word for it then, but they were incels, and porn/strippers/etc were for them. I think perhaps instead of relieving sexual frustration by getting off their ass and finding a girl, men get sucked …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:07 AM
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This is what happens when a creepy guy gets older. (Seriously I've known guys in their 70s who women get tingly around.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 02:28 AM
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You're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:01 PM
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And she goes "But that was different. You see, I was mature for my age, I wasn't manipulated at all, sometimes love just works that way..." in other words, AS A WOMAN, I AM NEVER WRONG. Nah, having known women who have done this sorta thing, when they get older they completely come around on it and are like WTF I can't believe he manipulated me like that! Men are so predatory and disgusting!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:50 PM
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The guy in the video staged it as a PR stunt, they're mostly actors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:30 PM
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Barely know anything about it, but it sounds frigid as fuck so wouldn't surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:23 PM
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OP shat on his thread when he made it about sugar babies and teenage girls and other low value male behavior which almost everyone agrees is gross. If you had a thread about high value men dating younger adult women, that's what gets reddit prickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:10 PM
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I've been with some feminists, and I can tell you... But IMO there's a lot of different explanations for this, but root of it is way too common childhood sexual trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:08 AM
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Question is if the thing here is the cheating or the thots/drugs/partying, because people do get the latter out of their system.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:55 AM
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This guy’s a classic low self-esteem late bloomer chasing the external validation he never got as an adolescent. Yes, and even if you don't take this story at face value, the take away is most men are going to ideate about doing this whether they actually can or will. So find men who have worked their thot phase out of their system.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:06 PM
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I dunno, but I think I've been "the other guy" a number of times and I think women do like to have a little face-off before they choose someone. Not that its some super-calculated strategy or anything but more-or-less how they decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:21 PM
2

Yeah, I got a taste of social media and OLD stuff, and its a totally different game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:09 PM
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Nah, it is pretty much a given that any attractive woman has multiple orbiters, guys taking her out, ex-boyfriends, and etc. Maybe men want to believe they're the singular guy, but the truth is whenever you get with a woman its because she staged a little competition which you won, usually without even knowing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:08 PM
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Yeah, this is just an edgier take on "the rules" to screen for the most betabux0r guy possible. The thing is some women are legit very low libido (unlike all our ppd ladies) and might find sex nice but its like #17 on their priority list. So a strategy to find a low libido male may be exactly right for them. But it's does not work if a woman is *actually* horny for a man because then she's just putting herself in "PEAK" mode, and there's a different set of rules at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 05:01 PM
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Nah, the sub was just a parody of MGTOW & redpill jargon, same with femcels mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:04 PM
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Attractive women have always had their pick of men. Attractive women have always been bombarded with approaches. Long before Instagram existed. Not really disagreeing, but social media has really changed the rules of "social circle" dating. That you/we are even thinking about this in terms of "approaches" is pretty much "old think". Modern game is not a matter of picking guys who approach, it picking through every guy you've ever known.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:00 PM
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There's a story up in this comment section, but tons of guys who are in relationships (and therefore capable of getting laid) fuck it up with obsessive porn use or camwhore shit -- they are literally choosing porn over real women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:34 PM
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25% of young men are celibate. I'm in shock and this place is fucking doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:49 AM
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Yeah, this thread was hilariously blue pill - "My FWBs are out looking for Mr. Big, why is this woman looking for Mr. Big and not FWB?" ​
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 04:01 AM
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always hated the fuck out of it but my wife was a marina girl so I spent waay too much time there
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:56 AM
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Yeah, any place where there a ton of money flowing around is going to attract hot blonde chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:55 AM
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Nah, we had that back in the 1990s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 11:07 PM
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That seems like a counter-argument. You also weren't going to put in a DVD and start jerking it on the living room sofa when anyone could walk in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 10:42 PM
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IMO those kinda guys can still be found all over corporate america. Its more that so much stuff has been swallowed-up by tech you now have this different group of guys who are engineering managers and application architects and etc. Even finance is largely a 'tech' industry now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 10:18 PM
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IMO social media is a big difference maker as well. Back then women's options were limited to the last couple cute guys who approached her and got her number. Now they can they can reach out to that really good-looking guy they met a couple months earlier or maybe don't even know. Or maybe he's hitting her up because didn't have to approach and get her number. Back when I was single I know that changed my game - I even had old coworkers hitting me up on linkedin lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:58 PM
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Yep, like 20 years ago my friend worked at a video store and he said the entire backroom was funded by like a half-dozen guys who would come in every day, and every now and again they'd get some random fratboys or a couple. Normal guys weren't beating the meat to a lot of hardcore porn back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:26 PM
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Well my office is full of em. Marina district is Stacy central.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:21 PM
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Yeah, I have to admit that OLD back then influenced me somewhat to get out of the game. Not that I couldn't meet women that way, but I was watching my ex line-up 3 coffee dates in a row and thinking holy shit. Anyway this statistic is completely nuts. It used to be that 90% of men had sex by age 20 or so, this about guys who are 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 09:18 PM
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Never great money, but enough to marry your high school sweetheart and buy a little house somewhere. We're talking about high socioeconomic men, not mine workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 07:10 PM
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hate to break it to you, but 38 yo unmarried women already have "a guy" for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:06 PM
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ppl have a weird image of SF, but its actually crawling with chad and stacy types. lots of bizdev marketing media type people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:08 PM
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This old friend of mine who is the nebbish starving artist pseudo-freegan type came to town. He said he'd gotten fed up being single and gone on the internet and was dating a women who owned her own place and had 6 cats. I was like "oh boy, wonder what she weighs". Then they get married and I meet her and she is this very attractive fit blonde with a sparkly personality. So there's some hot cat ladies out there, boyos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 05:00 PM
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Successful men are now the nerds, Yep. This is where I've seen AF/BB play out in real life where women wonder why they aren't "into" the Google guy they are seeing, despite him being perfect on paper and etc. A work friend of mine said it: "I thought I liked guys with money, but its not the money." Before the most economically successful men were also usually physically strong due to how the workforce was structured Nope. (Unless you're talking about prehistory or something.) Traditional profess…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 04:35 PM
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Personally I probably would have been just great with my highschool sweetheart. However, I would have had to spend my life in her "frame" (why we broke up) so I probably would have beta-ed out or w/e. So I got to spent another 10+ years fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 04:14 PM
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IMO the best pill stuff has always been relationship-oriented. However, since so few are are in healthy relationships there's not much out there anymore. The older stuff was a lot more how to be with a woman, not how to score with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 04:21 AM
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You read it incorrectly. Men's rating for women follows a standard bell curve. The *result* is a standard bell curve. My supposition is men are rating for "type" and their actual ratings tended to be 1s and 5s and it averaged out that way. And there's been academic studies about internet voting behavior, check em out before you invest in your dating app startup :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 02:42 AM
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The woman who is obsessed with marriage will highly value it and commitment in general and would be less likely okay with divorce and be just as obsessed with maintaining her marriage. This right here. If you do want to get married, you want to make sure she has a "mental point of origin"* that she would grow up and find a husband, and that is her life plan and not something that just happened because. The long-term happy marriages I'm aware of are all cases of the woman being marriage-oriented …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 02:34 AM
1

In your early 20s, you think that if a woman doesn't get off, you suck in bed and she's not actually that into you. By your mid 30s, you've had enough sex that you have a better idea about what's normal. Yep, also women are all over the map on this. (Something I think maybe a lot of women don't realize.) So when you're a young guy and run into a freak who has multiple orgasms all over your dick, you start thinking that you are le sex god. So then when you're with another more 'normal' woman wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:41 PM
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No other manosphere places, the one time i looked at the reddit sub it was all memes and shit. Like it is quite plausible these guys aren't just misogynist internet tough guys, they're that way IRL too. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:26 PM
2

Female orgasm sucks Chad's sperm into her womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:00 PM
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Reddit TRP allowed MGTOWs posting for a long time saying "MGTOW is red pill", its only a later development when they realized they were making them look like a bunch of buttblasted incels that they put a stop to it. (Too late to stop getting quarantined.) Rational Male comment section is still full of MGTOWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:55 PM
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I'm sensitive to some horror stories in this department, but often these guys are legitimate pieces of shit. I wouldn't take them at their word.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:49 PM
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Yeah, once women hit a certain age, they stop playing the madonna/whore game and get direct and freaky as fuck. You should have gone to bed with her, she probably would have fucked your lights out. (Because nobody in her social group gives a fuck about n-count or fucking Chad in the frathouse basement or whatever young guys fret over.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:35 PM
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Yeah, in a relationship if she made a production out of it, I do say something like "lol thanks but unnecessary". But if someone I'm fucking wants to yell "I'm coming!" when she isn't, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:25 PM
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Well, there's the standard "making more noise so he cums faster/harder" but when partners of mine have actually faked an orgasm it is has been a horribly bad fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:03 PM
2

As if TRP isn't 99% thirst?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:52 PM
2

The best part of this was when she threw him out 6 months later for being a drunken bum. (Just like his ex-wife said he was.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:51 PM
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Hooking-up on LinkedIn....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:47 PM
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Right, its not that most of these women were out riding the CC and getting pumped-n-dumped. Instead their 20-something relationship went south and they hit the SMP at 28-32 with a lot higher expectations and a shorter timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:42 PM
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Hmm, I know of a couple single moms who had a miracle baby in their mid/late 30s ... lets just say their SMV was not very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:36 PM
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lol, I saw this process in my social circles. These were attractive women who weren't going to 'settle'. So they went for slightly older "alpha" type guys, or started looking at divorced dads who were hitting the gym and driving motorcycles and etc terp-style. They certainly had no lack of dates, they just had to adjust expectations a bit. Hypergamy. Knowing some of these women, they'd puke on you before they'd settle for "beta bux". It is just not a thing for them. (okay, one became this old ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 03:29 AM
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Well, I've known some Atlas-lite types, but the average woman, ha never. (and maybe some red has made an argument about that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:46 AM
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bet he got hella laid back when he was a nobody waiter or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:39 AM
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The idea that a man can have traits that singal good genes and providership all the at the same time is foriegn to them. This is a real schism in RP alpha/beta theory. (yeah, and you just posted a thread on this...) Half of them think providing and comforting is something women have to hold their nose about in order to get at those good genes. Other half (my half) thinks it is something which will only help you those good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:36 AM
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I've been around women who are very spontaneous and women who are very reactive. I won't speculate on %s but it is a definite thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 02:15 AM
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Well if someone liked me enough to somehow fake involuntary spasms, I'm flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:01 PM
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Well, I'm not trying invalidate anyone's experiences, but I guess you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:45 PM
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Its funny because I've hung around some automotive forums, and there's a lot of post-hoc rationalization, dick-waving about race times and various specs, questionable modifications, brand whoring, and so on. But to continue the analogy, the buyers in this case know they are looking for "speed" and/or "comfort". And I'm sure the sellers like BMW are very honed-in on their version of speed & comfort. So are the are the buyers (women) here shopping for "alpha" and "beta"? If so nobody's informed th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:43 PM
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lol, you even said you were a woman. My point is especially about sex stuff, women online will say "women are like this" when they really mean "I'm like this".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:30 PM
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Praternity test to determine if u are pragrant. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:46 PM
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Okay, maybe pay some Chads to post videos. Just saying there's a graveyard of good dating app ideas out there, stuff like Tinder caught on because adoption was easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:38 PM
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I've never heard men IRL rating girls as 7s or whatever, they're either hot or not or the guy's type or w/e. They way I read the OKC thing is male preferences averaging out for mostly average women, while women weren't rating men "below average", they were pounding the 1 button for anyone who didn't make the cut. And just knowing how it worked back then, women didn't even want to see these guys much less rate them. Although I have to say you have an interesting idea and maybe tinder uses somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:37 PM
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Tingles are one thing, and comfort is another. I mean you could take the extreme example of fucking a guy in the club bathroom or something. But for the most part if a woman going to put out that bootie call or slide into a guy's DMs or however it works nowdays, she'll want to feel some comfort that he'll be an attentive lover and not kick her out the door afterwards. This is where it gets into "doesn't matter, had sex" territory, if beta characteristics help get you laid its all good. gang memb…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:22 PM
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I would have each user rate the profiles in front of them on a scale of 1-10, People don't think in linear terms like this like manosphere spergs, so you would get a lot of 1s and 10s. Its why youtube switched from a star system to thumbs-up/down. It also sorta explains the infamous OKC study.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:57 PM
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Well the big problem with any dating app is getting women to use it in the first place. Maybe pay some insta models to post videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:52 PM
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This is one of those things where your sample is (probably) n=1 and guys who have been around have more ancedata. But yeah, leg spasms and stuff happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:48 PM
1

How old are you? Everyone has placeholder GFs/BFs in their 20s, sometimes it works out in the long run but usually not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:35 PM
1

Really attractive women also make me want to cum hard and fast (which isn't necessarily a good thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:13 PM
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People never talk about this shit IRL, so I'm thinking of the guy who is like I'm a pussy-eating machine, I went down on her for 45 minutes straight, while a lot of women would be like "meh" at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:09 PM
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That's funny because you obviously were the one set off about it. Anyway you're an amateur at this, and now I'm thinking maybe you're just some ESL shitholio rather than incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:52 PM
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Yeah, but the term had already entered popular culture long before manosphere found it. And usually used sarcastically at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:22 PM
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You are right about redditors. But actually I've seen a shitload of posts on TRP and elsewhere in the manosphere where the guy brags about not caring at all about the sloot he's dumping a load into. Guess they're abundant enough they don't have to worry about repeat business. But somehow I doubt their Chad status.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:11 PM
1

1999 findings that wild grey wolves I dunno why reddit thinks this term came from 1999 wolves, but I'm pretty sure its has been around far longer than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:03 PM
2

Azngrill is this close to whipping out the strap-on and going full Femdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:25 AM
3

After talking about this issue since like forever, there's really zero actual objective consensus in the manosphere about alpha/beta. Like they sit around and debate whether alphas eat cucumbers or whatever because they have no real idea. And nobody could answer this except maybe a few ECs with their own very specific definition. If you surveyed TRP regular posters, they digest this stuff every day and still would be no way be any consensus on "alpha". Are my Beta/RMV characteristics good or bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 07:02 AM
1

That's how this goes, totally not internet-is-serious-business whore-guy budrino. Don't forget to write that manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 06:19 AM
1

basement dweller: confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:15 AM
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Just own up to it, it will make for a better narrative in your manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:58 AM
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IMO the first thing inexperienced guys really need to do is get a girlfriend. I don't care if they're a 9 or a 3, they should fuck sluts, but don't start with the goal of spinning plates. They should find a woman who they can spend extended time with so they understand how women 'work', plus they get practice sticking their peepee into hoohoo with. Really any girlfriend will do as long as she's not crazy. Yes, he will beta-out and she will inevitably AWALT and they'll have lessons to learn. Once…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:18 AM
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Not guys who are mad about whores on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:51 AM
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Yeah, these arguments are kinda pointless because everyone has their own personal idea of "alpha" which includes their Uncle Cletus or whatever. But if you define it as "guy who has a lot of casual sex", then he does know how put out that vibe that he's safe to slide into bed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:20 AM
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Its the "time and time again" part. The natural guy will get comfort/commitment tested like shit but eventually he'll figure it out because he's a natural after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:18 AM
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They shouldn't either, its more that these dudes think they're creating some sorta man shortage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:52 AM
1

lol, maybe I do have stockholm syndrome. But I actually think the Team Gender stuff is pretty stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:34 AM
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Your position is wrong because they aren't necessarily 'whores'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 10:36 PM
2

That used to be mid-range AFCs, lately it's been low-end Omegas, but the advice is there for those who want to listen... whatever their starting position. Yeah, that's the issue, it has actually always been the omegas which spend a long time hanging around. TRP may even self-select for this because they discourage getting a girlfriend, which is how most guys solve their getting-laid problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:28 PM
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Also these guys need to lurk moar, because the dynamics of this place is a bunch of partnered-off women, so why would they care if he goes his own way, spins plates until he's 50, or chops off his own dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 08:24 PM
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That's the other thing. I remember when I could define "Pickup, the Good Parts" and it would fit on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper. All the guys sitting around on the internet mentally masturbating about theory or whether eating vegetables was "alpha" or "beta" were NOT helping themselves. So it is quite possible someone could scoot across TRP and be like okay let me get back to the gym and get some new threads and better Tinder pics, but they don't need all the de-pedestal AWALT waa my onitius stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 05:24 PM
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This right here. Edit: Also to the extent people do talk about this, it is going to be with a sex-positive framework, so it will be Dan Savage or BDSM or ethical non-monogamy or etcetera, and very carefully avoiding the male wish-fulfillment harem implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 05:07 PM
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Yeah, I should make it clear we wanted to get laid, because we were young men afterall, but it was not such a priority that we were hitting on every girl in the bar. And people would do the casual fwb thing but "spinning plates" was the last thing on most men's minds. And I'm young enough to get a taste of hooking-up through facebook, so yeah maybe for younger guys its more about social signaling on instagram or whatever than running tight game. So when you get down to it, it a slice of younger …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:50 PM
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Makes sense to me. However the study had people self-assess their sexual experience, so you're probably mostly looking at men who have been in relationships and not the smooth ladies man running tight game at the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:41 PM
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IMO the bigger problem is there is no advice which "works" in the universal sense, especially when you are attracting fucked-in-the-head Elliot Rodger guys or 5'2" brown dudes who only have eyes for HB9 blonde sorority girls. There just is no magic bullet. So its not entirely political correctness, but the fact it attracts men who have diagnosed their problem as "lack of girls" but in fact their issues run way deeper. Not to mention all the bitter old divorcees which always are lurking around. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:24 PM
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Because "how to get laid " is by definition pua/manosphere material Yeah, it is really a self-selected group of men, most with a chip on their shoulder about their n-count. When I was a young guy scoring ONSs was not a real priority of any guy I knew, in fact when it happened we'd usually laugh about afterwards. And really nobody was looking to "spin plates", in fact when I had a taste of that kind of thing my friends thought I was nutzo. Everyone was really just looking for a good girlfriend. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:59 PM
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I've gone to IHOP a couple times and have to say it is like the ultimate fat person place where whipped cream on top of your breakfast has been completely normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 03:22 PM
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