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What I'm hearing is that men are more honest, so women are better able to make informed assessments of who they're getting into a relationship. And women are more dishonest, so men are more often mislead into disastrous relationships with them. And that rings true to my experiences. The misleading title does not ring true to my experiences. I have typically found women to be much poorer judges of character, in general, than men.
/r/BlackPillScience12/03/20 03:06 PM
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I see numbers, but I don't see a source.
/r/MensRights08/03/20 11:43 PM
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No, because that's not the number we care to look at. What we care to look at is the difference in the ratio of mens-to-women's pay for both full and part-time workers. The difference in overall income of part-time and full-time workers has exactly zero to do with this discussion. Nice try to distract from the fact that the difference is negligible. Or maybe you just don't understand the math we're actually considering. I'm not the one challenging that including part-time pay would change things…
/r/MensRights06/03/20 09:40 AM
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It's still not that significant because there isn't likely to be a huge difference in the pay rate for part time workers. It's probably going to be pretty close to 50%;50% there too, and that single-digit-percentage addition to the numbers isn't going to sway the original figure by more than 1 or 2%, I guarantee it. Probably less than 1%. Try the math and see if I'm wrong.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:44 AM
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But the different in full time workers is only 7M people, out of more than 250M people. That's barely statistically significant. Do the numbers for us, if you think it's such a big deal. How would the stats change if part-time workers were included?
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:49 PM
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I read your article, and I have no idea how you actually disagree with OP, or if you even disagree. Your article seems to convey a similar overall sentiment, that there are legitimate reasons for the alleged pay gap, and that any pay gap is actually against men rather than women.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:48 PM
2

And men generally worked more dangerous jobs, which means we are the ones being underpaid for our work.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 11:42 PM
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Can attest to the truth of this. See my other comment.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 12:01 PM
15

Yup. I grew up raised by women, with no good male role models, so I practically revered women, and definitely had a lower opinion of men, myself included, than of women. Took me a long time after I got out into the world, before I realized how lopsided my education on the subject of men and women had been. Even still, it took a lot of digging through information to even begin to view women with the same kind of scrutiny that I viewed men. But now I've seen it through, and I'm not only against fe…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 11:58 AM
50

'Thick as thieves' comes to mind.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 11:30 AM
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It's effectively accurate, even is it's not accurate to the exact letter of the law. It's quite obvious that the intent was, and that the effect is and will be, to stop nearly all single men from adopting girls. Because most fathers will not have to try to adopt their own daughters, and the special circumstances are probably that literally no one else will adopt the child, which isn't that common. You know it, I know it, so why are we debating it.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 08:00 PM
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Restrictions are an undeserved imposition on someone's life, unless there is a compelling argument for enacting them. .Neither laws nor codes and statutes should be enacted arbitrarily, capriciously, or discriminatorily. It stands to reason that the "special circumstances" are also very rare. I doubt very much that either stipulation helps most of the single men who might like to be fathers.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 07:30 AM
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It does except in the case of biological fathers, which would be pretty rare, for a father to have to be adopting his own daughter.
/r/MensRights05/02/20 03:34 PM
1

True. We all deserve it. Lock him up. Give her all his money.
/r/MensRights02/02/20 10:10 PM
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Dat's da real Rosa Parks, right there!
/r/MensRights20/01/20 12:51 AM
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How rude of those men, with probably much longer legs, to sit where there was leg room. How dare they make a woman even slightly uncomfortable!
/r/MensRights20/01/20 12:49 AM
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Wrong sub. This sub is about supporting men against society being oppressive, feminists overreaching, and there being no other support for us. It isn't about racial issues, which is what this post is about.
/r/MensRights13/01/20 04:48 PM
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My own personal feelings agree with it as well. I don't perceive successful women to be intimidating. I mostly don't perceive them at all, because they don't hang out in places that I frequent, so there's a reclusiveness to successful women. And I also find that women don't seem to want to "date down," as it were. Women look for men who are more successful than they are, so there's a dismissive attitude from some successful women, as with some successful people in general. Although I don't think…
/r/BlackPillScience08/01/20 09:30 PM
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I don't think we could ever force people to do that, or that we should. But I do think it would be wise for people to agree amongst themselves to do that, for their own and each other's mutual safety. It's something I discuss with anyone I'm with.
/r/MensRights05/01/20 01:36 AM
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My bad, my bad. I thought you were the same person I was already talking with. That explains the apparent non sequitur then, lol.
/r/MensRights04/01/20 05:38 AM
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No, you just made my point for me further. That we only have evidence of children's social interactions with anything we might deem "beautiful" or "aesthetically appealing" once we have interacted and communicated with them in some way, and therefore had formative impact on them through our interactions and study, is only further support of the point I'm making. It's not shifting the goalposts to point out that an Observer Effect exists, and that it limits the efficacy of our experimentation in …
/r/MensRights03/01/20 10:37 PM
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I witness this in the restaurant industry to extreme degrees, and it angers me to see people being financially oppressed because of the face they were born with. I've worked every job in a restaurant for over fifteen years. When I applied for the cooking job I have now, I was asked somewhat cheekily but also seriously, why I wouldn't want to work out front, since I look decent enough and have all my teeth, because I could make way more money. My reason is that I'm autistic spectral and I get sen…
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/20 10:25 PM
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Thank you, friend. I hope yours is productive and adventurous as well.
/r/MensRights03/01/20 10:02 PM
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Currently getting baked, my friend. Ummm…. and then, I was told... there would be cake? ;-)
/r/MensRights03/01/20 10:02 PM
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They've grown accustomed to there being no consequences, or vastly reduced consequences, for being violent to men. We've reversed the natural order. Part of me feels like this injustice is necessary for a time, so that men can experience some small fraction of what women have always experienced - basically getting bullied, and being powerless to stop it. But part of me worries that men will not accept that lesson graciously and use it to put themselves in women's shoes so that we can go forward …
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/20 09:58 PM
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I like that you added your own interpretation of the conclusion, because this data could be interpreted a lot of ways, and I'm concerned it will be interpreted to plainly say that men dislike women with higher status. But I think there are multiple other possible explanations for it; yours being one of them. That was my first thought as well; that higher status comes with the perception of unreachability, and that might be what's working against them, not that men dislike the power they have.
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/20 09:51 PM
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take out the "high status" though, and it's still true.
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/20 09:48 PM
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You can take out the "high status" and this would still be true. Which... sounds horrible. But seriously.... what do women do for men other than provide aesthetic and sexual gratification, and bear children? Are women paying men's bills? Are women building the structures of society that we all live in and use for business? The roads and bridges we all travel on? Do women volunteer to do the difficult, dangerous jobs? Seriously, what's in it for us? From a strictly economical stand point, we pret…
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/20 09:42 PM
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Has science asked babies how they feel about men and women, before they could have possibly had any of society's standards rub off on them? Nope. Science can't even ask babies anything until some of society has rubbed off on them, and they have some basic ability to communicate, even unconsciously.
/r/MensRights03/01/20 09:39 PM
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This is like saying that men bear no responsibility for female beauty standards, simply because other women tend to be more critical of a woman's looks than men do. Like, women care about other women's clothing, makeup, hair, etc. Men only care about visual appearance to the extent that a woman is attractive to him, but that often wont correlate to having nice clothing, hair, makeup, etc, and may correlate to other factors entirely. So women create most of the beauty standard for women, in that …
/r/MensRights03/01/20 09:38 PM
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Link the study please. This is worthless for citation, as it is.
/r/MensRights03/01/20 09:34 PM
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I'm high. Still doesn't make sense to me.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 06:42 AM
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You can if you have a sex change.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 02:36 AM
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Circumcision. Now shut the fuck up.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 02:34 AM
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Wrong, because a lot of boys have their genitals mutilated right after they're born, so we are already in the car wreck!
/r/MensRights28/12/19 02:34 AM
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yes it does, if it helps undo the first one being done. It isn't just done, like oh well, we're stuck with circumcision forever now. Fuck that. It's being done. And it can be stopped. And this is a damned good protest to help stop it. So it's worth it. And those kids sure look like they want to be there to me, so as long as they're not being abused, you have zero rights concerning them attending a protest. Mind your business... or don't, because there's nothing you can do about it.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 06:38 AM
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You said nothing in support of opposing circumcision, and only complained about protesting it. "In cases of clear oppression, to remain silent, is to side with the oppressor." And you remained silent about the issue of protesting circumcision, even though you came here to protest the issue of using kids in politics. So you revealed your priorities with your own comment, and remained silent about the atrocity of circumcision itself.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 03:31 AM
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This is the most effective visual protest for it I've seen yet, so apparently we can't or won't do a very good job of it without involving kids. And who the hell are you to say kids can't be involved in protesting something that's done to them against their will? Even if they don't understand it, they can understand it was against their will. That's all they need to protest it. So get out of here with that crap. You aren't their parent, and these kids aren't being harmed. Circumcision is what do…
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:32 AM
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How about you need to do some research. How do you not know about this? FFS, the internet is RIGHT HERE, dude! No one can solve your willful ignorance for you.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:31 AM
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I think it's absolutely appropriate to have kids protesting the mutilation of children without their consent. Kids understand what it feels like to be forced without their consent. That's the norm for how kids are treated. They do what the adults in their lives tell, coerce, or force them to do. There's no one more appropriate to speak up about acting on children against their will than children, who are regularly acted on against their will. And none of these children look like they don't want …
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:19 AM
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If you have kids, then don't bring YOUR kids to a protest, if you think it's wrong. You don't get to tell other people what to do with their kids, you arrogant fuck. Unless they're doing something criminal to them, like mutilating their genitals. Then you should get off your ass and be involved in telling them to stop.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:17 AM
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So kids can be mutilated, but they should not be involved in protesting their mutilation? Fuck you.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:16 AM
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But you DO agree with it, and you aren't out there protesting it yourself, so shut up.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:15 AM
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Are you suggesting it's worse to use kids for a political rally they don't understand than it is to mutilate kid's genitals to uphold and ancient and barbaric religious tradition that they don't understand?
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:15 AM
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But having her there makes the strongest point of all, and the abuse of circumcision outweighs the abuse of using a child for political purposes. So it's right that she's there.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:13 AM
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Once society has taken on ourselves to cut up a child's penis, that child can be involved in anything he wants to, regarding genitals and sexuality. A circumcised child has been tortured and permanently damaged worse than any rape victim, and you wouldn't fucking DARE tell a rape victim that they had no business being at an anti-rape rally, no matter how old they were. So shut the fuck up.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:12 AM
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Children don't understand circumcision either, but you've only got a problem with using kids to hold up signs they don't understand, and not with mutilating their bodies to hold up ancient religious traditions they don't understand?
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:09 AM
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Using children to uphold an ancient and barbaric religious ritual of mutilation is so much worse than using kids to hold up signs protesting it, that you are out of line for taking issue with the latter use of children and not the former. Fuck you.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:08 AM
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So you're okay with parents deciding for their kids that they should have their genitals mutilated, but your not okay with the parents who decide for their kids that they should protest that practice?
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:07 AM
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So you'll defend kids from holding up signs, but not from having their genitals mutilated? How about leaving kids out of circumcision, and letting adults decide to get that operation, if they want to when they can understand and consent to it?
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:06 AM
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Who are you to decide for these kids that they don't understand and don't want to be there? It looks like they want to be there to me.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:05 AM
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Is it more or less okay than cutting off pieces of children's genitals right after their born? Yeah, that's what I thought. Get your priorities straight. Exploiting kids to hold up anti-circumcision signs can stop when mutilating kids with circumcisions stops.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:05 AM
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Every human body part gets weird nasty shit on it, if you don't clean it, you piece of shit. Fucking wash your junk, and leave other people to wash theirs. Should we cut your fucking mouth off because you might get some crud around it? How about your asshole? Let's cut that off too. Can't get cancer in body parts you don't have, so let's cut your testicles off too, because testicular cancer kills lotsa guys.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:02 AM
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"Right?" Like, I didn't bother to research it myself. I'm just going to hack up my son because of some shit that I heard, right? That's okay to do because everyone else is doing it, right? Fuck you, you child mutilating piece of trash.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:01 AM
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Cutting off the most sensitive part of kids' penises is far worse, and none of them understood why it was being done to them either. But you draw the line at using kids to hold signs, and you're okay with using kids' bodies to uphold an ancient and barbaric religious tradition? Get your priorities straight.
/r/MensRights22/12/19 12:00 AM
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And circumcision isn't?
/r/MensRights21/12/19 11:58 PM
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A woman just murdered her three infant sons because she thought they might grow up to be abusive. Don't talk to me about women being incapable of brutality. Most of our mothers in this country hack off pieces of their son's penises right after their born, without any compelling medical complication to excuse it. Few things are more brutal than child genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights21/12/19 11:51 PM
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That's exactly what Swedish police tried to charge Julian Assange for. In Sweden it's called Surprise Sex, and there's a law against it.
/r/MensRights19/12/19 11:20 PM
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I'm a frequent supporter and speaker in this forum, but this heading is completely misleading. It is dishonest, and its dishonesty harms our cause. The study does NOT report that women are equally likely to commit rape as men. It concludes from a survey of 1054 youths aged 14 to 21, that 10 females and 39 males reported having attempted or completed rape. From age 15 and under, all participants reporting this were male. From age 16 to 17, 90% of participants reporting this were male. But from ag…
/r/MensRights19/12/19 09:59 PM
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A lot of the same stuff that's scary about being a woman. Bigger men might still beat me up; and there's always a bigger man. If our very corrupt justice system lands me in prison, other men might rape me, and nothing will be done about it. A woman can be violent with me, and unless I have extensive evidence that she was totally at fault, I'll be presumed at fault. And even if she were found at fault, I'll be mocked for speaking up about a woman being violent with me. A woman can also accuse me …
/r/MensRights16/12/19 07:08 PM
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A lot of the same shit that's scary about being a woman. Bigger men might still beat us up, and there's always a bigger man. If our very corrupt justice system lands us in prison, other men might rape us. I don't have kids, but if I ever do, I know automatically that I need to always be collecting evidence of my good parenting practices, and any evidence of the mother's poor parenting practices, in case we ever split up and there's a custody dispute, because the courts will be extremely unfair i…
/r/MensRights16/12/19 06:55 PM
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Same people sending our tax money to Israel, to murder Palestinians, I'd guess.
/r/MensRights11/12/19 06:56 AM
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It's purpose is to decrease sexual enjoyment for men. To control us.
/r/MensRights11/12/19 01:48 AM
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Just had the same discussion/ argument with my mom recently, and we are no longer speaking. Likewise with my sister, who just did it to her son, despite my attempt at educating her. Some women are so sold on the idea that they're victims, that they can't event conceive of men as beings who could ever be victims. Much less that they are the perpetrators.
/r/MensRights11/12/19 01:44 AM
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How nice for you that the decision other people made for you, turned out to be the decision you preferred. Not everyone ends up feeling that way. Which is why, if you like the idea of circumcision, you should be free to get that procedure for yourself as an adult. In case you're one of the kids who doesn't end up preferring the decision someone else made on his behalf, to permanently mutilate part of his body. Make sense?
/r/MensRights11/12/19 01:40 AM
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Child mutilation, and religious sexual perversion. That's what it is.
/r/MensRights11/12/19 01:37 AM
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The mothers and teachers of these little girls crying rape for everything, even the most innocent look or contact, are out of control. These are the mothers that circumcise their sons because they want their genitals to look a certain way, not because they have an actual medical complication. These are the mothers and teachers who offer more opportunities to girls because they feel men already have too many advantages in life. And these are the women who perpetuate the mistreatment of women as a…
/r/MensRights27/11/19 10:24 PM
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Fucking asshole parents. They got what they deserved for making such a stupid and malicious decision to mutilate their child. But that poor kid... no child should have their body cut into unless it significantly threatens their life not to. Circumcisions are mutilation and often murder.
/r/MensRights02/11/19 04:58 PM
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A good woman would have out-roared you and chased her away. It's what I would do to any man trying to be a gender bigot with any partner I was with. The most effective counter-voice against a form of bigotry, in my opinion, is someone from the bigot's own demographic throwing it back in their face, and disallowing that person from feeling like they have the support of anyone they might regard as their peers. Revealing them starkly as a minority of one, even as they try to make a minority of some…
/r/MensRights16/10/19 08:23 PM
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Monogamy happens because there's only about one tolerable woman in any city. If that.
/r/MensRights16/10/19 08:19 PM
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No worries. He's being appointed directly to the Supreme Court
/r/MensRights25/09/19 09:39 PM
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Yes, boys must not be allowed to enjoy the full feeling of sex, or they might care more about women. They must be conditioned to associate sex with pain and the immediately distrust their family unit.
/r/MensRights25/09/19 09:38 PM
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You forgot the part where we cut off the most sensitive part of their penis as soon as they're born. Teach boys to associate pain with sexuality and deprive them of most of the bonding experience of sex.
/r/MensRights25/09/19 09:36 PM
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I agree with this. It is a correct statement about nearly all mercenaries calling themselves soldiers. Very few are actual soldiers.
/r/MensRights17/09/19 02:35 PM
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So you put yourself in harms way (with probably no specific idea of why you were joining; just selfish reasons of wanting a free education, a good paycheck, a skilled trade, and a chance to travel the world and kill some people), and now you want us to pay you respect for putting yourself in a dangerous situation. No. Fuck you. If I didn't ask you for protection, I don't owe you shit for putting yourself in harms way. I didn't need your protection, and in fact your service creates a greater need…
/r/MensRights17/09/19 02:34 PM
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Are you implying that left and right ideologies can never address men's and women's issues?
/r/MensRights15/09/19 07:36 PM
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The problem is that you can very, very easily find them everywhere, which means they represent a significant problem.
/r/MensRights15/09/19 07:35 PM
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TIL that changing your mind is rape.
/r/MensRights15/09/19 07:34 PM
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Sad that she doesn't realize birth control was liberating for women, not enslaving.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:36 AM
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Newtonian Physics was disproved a long time ago. At least catch up a bit and rail against Relativistic Mechanics, to be a little more relevant.
/r/MensRights23/12/18 06:40 PM
1

I find that you can't make people care, but you can sometimes shame them for not caring, because people who don't care about important things often do care about superficial things like the appearance of popularity.
/r/MensRights12/12/18 03:13 AM
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You ruined it by calling it feminism. This isn't feminism; it's egalitarianism and activism. Because it's not just good for women; it's good for everyone and the world.
/r/MensRights04/12/18 08:27 PM
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But...but, they can't, like, choose to not have babies! That's Crazy Town, sir. All women MUST have babies. It's in the Constitution.
/r/MensRights01/12/18 08:03 AM
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I'm just tryina give the ladies what they want.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 12:03 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 05:53 AM
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I shame people when their behavior is shameful. That's the proper use of shaming, and I used it properly in this case. He's being a coward, and I'm calling him on it. Don't join him, or I'll have to call you on it too. It's not us versus them; men versus women. It's people standing up against oppression versus oppressors and people remaining silent to oppression. He's one of the latter, and he deserves to be ashamed of it.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 05:44 AM
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My mom says so. So does yours. ;-)
/r/MensRights07/04/18 11:06 PM
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Yeah, it's not his job to convince you about his opinion of what he's observed. He's merely registering his own opinion, and asking ours. That doesn't require him to prove anything. You either see what he's saying, or you don't. Feel free to speak up either way, and let the rest of us know what your opinion is. We won't ask you to prove that it's your opinion. ;-)
/r/MensRights07/04/18 07:31 PM
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I like that way of thinking. Good post.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 07:27 PM
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That makes it even worse, that it's your sister, because you're not even getting any vagina for your silence. My opinion of you jus dropped even lower. Complete fucking coward.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 07:03 PM
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Proof is in the pudding, coward. You're the one who's getting the man-hating pictures sent to you by your girlfriend, and accepting it quietly. That's not happening to me. And I do have a girlfriend; but she'd be outraged at that shit, unlike yours, and unlike you apparently. Isn't that weird, that my girlfriend is more capable of standing up for men's rights than you are. What does that say about you?
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:57 PM
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I mean, they all look the same anyway.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:48 PM
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I guess you're a coward then, because you can see the oppression, and you're unwilling to engage in a battle against it when the risk is too high for yourself. You aren't willing to lose your vagina in order to stand up for equality. That's worthy of hostility, in my book.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:35 PM
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As a sentient, intelligent human being, it is more your place than any other creature in existence, to change other people's minds. Especially when you see them causing unnecessary harm. Whether you succeed or not, the effort is worth making.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:26 PM
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It's not pointless. If trying to get things changed was pointless, nothing would ever change. But "it's the fools who think they can change the world who end up doing it." -Jobs.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:19 PM
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We were above it until you proudly admitted to being a chump who was unwilling to speak up in the face of clear oppression. "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor." - Desmond Tutu So man up already.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:18 PM
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First of all, 40% of reported domestic violence is against men, and there is an obvious societal bias against men reporting domestic abuse, and against it even being classified as domestic abuse, even if a man does report it. So that statistic is probably skewed. Secondly, I've been a victim too, both of domestic abuse and molestation as a child, by women, so I woke up to it fairly early in my life. And what you mentioned about only realizing it after the fact, becomes more and more true over ti…
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:15 PM
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It's actually our problem too, because if no one confronts women about this shit, they keep thinking this way. Do your part, mate. Man up.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 06:03 PM
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If they keep insisting they do, maybe we should listen to them though. It wouldn't be fair to ignore their demands like that.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 05:56 PM
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Men still build the houses that other men buy though, so...
/r/MensRights07/04/18 05:29 PM
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If men flirted like birds, or any other non-human animal, we'd just chase them around until they're too tired to run, and then rape them until they enjoy it. You sure that's what you want, ladies? Because that sounds a lot easier than what we already do.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 05:28 PM
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Send this link back to your sister, and ask her what's funny about it.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 05:27 PM
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Anything could be arbitrarily construed as "politics" and anything could be arbitrarily interpreted as "not politics." It's a vague term used intentionally to give them flexibility in banning whoever does not align to their narrative, and allowing whoever does align to it.
/r/MensRights07/04/18 05:06 AM
4

Right on. Fair enough.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 03:18 AM
7

What's excessive about this response? Or is any response to feminaziism excessive to you?
/r/MensRights05/04/18 02:53 AM
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It's funny when that "excuse" is tossed out regarding sexual assault toward men, but it's absolutely not okay and never funny to say that about sexual assault toward women, because.... because, because, because, becaaaaauuuuuse... pay no attention to the women behind the curtain.
/r/MensRights13/01/18 07:38 AM
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That makes me even more concerned that your mind went to the idea of molesting boys, when no one else was talking about that. You're a teacher and that's the first insult your mind reached for? Get yourself checked out mentally bro. You may have some dangerous latent proclivities there which are endangering the young people you think you're helping. And since you're dumb, I'll explain to you yet again that what I'm advocating for is mutual unfairness in a situation which has been singularly unfa…
/r/MensRights26/12/17 09:47 PM
0

tldr; but I caught the first few lines of BS. And wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a world where rape allegations only got ignored when there really was no evidence? Hmmm, you must have a nice fantasy going on in your head, to think we live in that world.
/r/MensRights26/12/17 08:09 AM
-1

tldr; but I caught the first few lines of BS. And wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a world where rape allegations only got ignored when there really was no evidence? Hmmm, you must have a nice fantasy going on in your head, to think we live in that world.
/r/MensRights26/12/17 08:08 AM
-2

Maybe for someone with low standards for what excites him, like you. If you have a little couth, your dick doesn't jump at everything that moves. I draw the line at kids, other dudes, women who don't want me, and women I don't want. It's called having some self respect. You should try it.
/r/MensRights26/12/17 08:07 AM
0

Gee, how interesting that no one was talking about raping little boys, and then you just introduced that to the conversation. You got little boys on your mind, bro?
/r/MensRights26/12/17 08:05 AM
1

Every decent man, lol. That escalated quickly. Nice try at an argumentum ad absurdum. Fail.
/r/MensRights26/12/17 08:04 AM
1

Well, try not to let things like a person having a cat give you a heart attack. I'm sure that would be a real loss to the world.
/r/MensRights26/12/17 08:02 AM
0

It's just gross that you don't know that about rape stats. Have you just been watching Pokémon for your entire adult-child life?
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:56 PM
0

Or, let's just keep ignoring rape no matter who's life is ruined by it or not. That's what we've been doing throughout our entire history. Why not keep doing that instead of daring to ever let men be the recipients of unjust treatment? No.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:55 PM
1

No, trust me, you'll be successful at finding it. But you won't know unless you try. So go try. It's not that hard. Relying on other people to do it for you, and calling them lazy if they don't, is just pathetic. You're not pathetic are you?
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:54 PM
1

Yes, anyone who's unaware of this about the epidemic of police abuses of authority is a lazy piece of shit. I agree. Shamefully lazy.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:53 PM
-1

As long as innocent women continue to get raped, I am regrettably okay with innocent men going to jail. Correct. The issue being so unfair to one side has clearly not been enough for something to get done about it. Maybe if it becomes sufficiently unfair to both sides, something will get done. You may not like it, and I don't either, but it's something we haven't really tried, and nothing else is working. So yeah, I'm good with it. And I don't really care what disgusts you. That's as meaningful …
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:51 PM
1

No, but public support can fluctuate wildly in that time, and public support is obviously what a lot of victims need because they aren't getting justice through the appropriate legal channels.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:49 PM
-1

Awww, but you're just wrong. Fuck you too, and merry Christmas!
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:48 PM
0

You can't coerce a penis to get hard bro. That's not how they work. I'm willing to have the discussion about women abusing their sexual powers, but it's not on par with male abuse of physical power to actually coerce women sexually.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:47 PM
-1

And women have typically been those being unjustly raped and beaten. Grow a set and get over it. Women have had it worse than us. And you just sound like a whiny bitch complaining about offenses that fall short of what they've been through.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:43 PM
1

Correct. It is not my job to do common-level research for you. I'm glad you understand your place. Now go do some of that work. You've wasted more time on me than it would have taken you to look it up.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:42 PM
1

I was like those egotists once. I took offense at every little thing directed at men in general. Then I realized how long women have been putting up with gender generalizations and, y'know what, I dried my eyes, quit crying like a little bitch, and am willing to take one for the team because there's enough of a problem within our gender that insisting no one generalize about it is to quibble about a penny while thieves get away with the bank. Grow up
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:41 PM
0

Lol, you clearly have never bothered looking into rape statistics. It's common knowledge for those who've given enough of a shit to look.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 10:39 PM
-1

Oh please. No, you have the internet. If you're paying any attention, you can see evidence of it regularly throughout the country, for many, many years.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 08:08 AM
-12

The average rapist rapes multiple victims, so as much as what you're mentioning is unjust, it's also a taste of our own medicine, which has been getting doled out one-sidedly to women for far too long. Yeah, it's unfair. Women know all about unfair. Now that it's unfair enough for both sides, maybe we'll do something about the whole situation.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 07:13 AM
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Fear of being publicly ousted and having your life ruined is one of the more powerful tools at women's disposal to help mitigate these crimes against themselves, imho.
/r/MensRights25/12/17 07:12 AM
-6

Incredibly difficult in many rape situations. Who has a DNA testing kit at home to compel the other half of a DNA test by court order? Not me, if it happened to me. And asking the presence of mind of a recent rape victim to acquire necessary criminal evidence for prosecution after being traumatized is unrealistic at best; something else at worst. So, when the police won't do the job of properly investigation, which happens regularly, then I think going public is a viable option. Like I said, the…
/r/MensRights25/12/17 07:11 AM
4

People are doing what they can to reduce an epidemic of crime, by going public with the full size and scope of the problem (or trying to. I doubt it really comes close to showing the generally unconcerned public how pervasive the issue really is).
/r/MensRights25/12/17 06:52 AM
-53

I get the sentiment here, and I think he means well, but I have to respectfully disagree. Cops are notoriously not doing their jobs lately, and there's a historic precedent of them being especially lax when it comes to the sexual assault and rape allegations of women. Complaints have been happening for a long time, but a solution has not being generally forthcoming in either the tactics of police or the activities of society, so I think it's necessary to get the public involved. Along with that …
/r/MensRights25/12/17 02:00 AM
9

I am Man. Mankind turned that sound into meaning, and we can judge and adjust it's meaning through our common usage of it as we please. I am literally the only species on this planet who is qualified to judge what "odd" is. Thank you for asking.
/r/MensRights22/12/17 10:31 PM
29

Someone who just wanted to be treated for their illness but not educated on how to prevent illness. A reactive, self-righteous, superior-minded ignorant whose only concern is their immediate gratification. 'I did a whole bunch of stupid shit to my body because it felt good and made me look cool. Stitch me up and stfu so I can go do more of it and be back here in a month for a stomach pump or to have something odd fished out of my ass.'
/r/MensRights22/12/17 09:02 PM
3

I don't think the empathy is strong in these ones anyway.
/r/MensRights22/12/17 08:58 PM
10

The doctor didn't say It's gender Itself though, so whoever is explaining It's gender is gendersplaining for him, and we just can't do that. /s
/r/MensRights22/12/17 08:57 PM
10

"suicided"
/r/MensRights22/12/17 08:56 PM
40

Feelings
/r/MensRights22/12/17 08:55 PM
6

It's not a grey area to them. It's a black and white stripes area, for anyone they can criminalize with it.
/r/MensRights21/11/17 07:49 AM
13

Lucky for her he happened to like it, or she might be facing sexual assault charges. But does him happening to like it make it okay for her to have just up and kissed a stranger without asking him?
/r/MensRights21/11/17 03:19 AM
1

Yes, all of the internet's hatred is here in mensrights.
/r/MensRights20/11/17 02:46 AM
1

Yeah it's even more enraging when it happens to you personally.
/r/MensRights19/11/17 03:37 PM
6

It's a suggestion, just like Occam's razor. It's not a proof, and there's no scientific validity to it.
/r/MensRights19/11/17 11:50 AM
1

Because none of this injustice exists in the world off the internet, so you'll definitely never witness any of it if you just close your screen /s
/r/MensRights19/11/17 11:49 AM
1

For all these bitches with weaves!
/r/MensRights19/11/17 11:41 AM
7

He'd know.
/r/MensRights03/11/17 05:44 AM
2

I got banned from r/science for daring to suggest that women sometimes use sex to manipulate men. They're already here.
/r/MensRights03/11/17 04:29 AM
7

As a man, I find this typical. Wish it weren't so.
/r/MensRights01/11/17 03:21 PM
1

The casual abuser often does think their behavior is amusing and acceptable.
/r/MensRights27/10/17 08:50 AM
90

The point is no one gives a fuck. No one considers this harassment. Because it's being done by a woman.
/r/MensRights26/10/17 03:12 AM
30

Because men aren't a thing anyway.
/r/MensRights26/10/17 03:12 AM
1

Then who's supporting her?
/r/MensRights25/09/17 11:52 AM
3

How does a public apology restore those guys' scholarship, return them their suspended time from school, and repair their damaged images? It doesn't, so that's not enough.
/r/MensRights11/09/17 10:10 AM
1

Anyone who falsely accuses another person of a crime should get the maximum sentence for conviction of that crime. As should any politician who votes in favor of criminalizing something that they later get caught doing.
/r/MensRights11/09/17 10:09 AM
1

Well... assuming all men need to be taught not to rape is the same as assuming that no men are capable of arriving at that reasonable conclusion themselves. It's very similar to teaching all women not to murder their babies. Seems like they ought to be able to reach that conclusion on their own, and the education is only necessary for the psychopaths among them. Same with guys and rape. We aren't all psychopaths, and making rape education ubiquitous to all of us assumes that we are.
/r/MensRights29/07/17 07:13 PM
4

Allegedly taking advantage of. And the allegation is coming from someone how can't remember what happened. But it's very telling that you think everyone so accused did take advantage. You're only correct when it's demonstrable that one party intended to take advantage. And the word of a person with drunken amnesia shouldn't be enough to determine that.
/r/MensRights20/07/17 10:30 AM
2

Agreed. Your emotional sensitivity is not more important than sick fucks cutting up little boy's penises. You think this doesn't offend all of us to see?!
/r/MensRights04/07/17 06:17 PM
1

Does it ultimately matter if this is fake, when things like this actually happen though? It does represent a reality, and it's one most of us rarely see or hear about.
/r/MensRights04/07/17 06:15 PM
1

You didn't have to say it. You response that you can't understand the problem with it because you didn't have a problem with it, reveals that you are only thinking about yourself in this issue. If you had attempted to imagine whether others have a problem with it - engaged a little theory of mind - then you would understand that it doesn't really matter if your case turned out okay, because there are so many cases that don't turn out okay. And so the risk is not acceptable, just because you were…
/r/MensRights04/07/17 06:10 PM
0

I haven't heard an actual argument to the points here, just a sad, flaccid ad hominem attack on my character, which has failed miserably. Of course I ask myself if I should remain quiet about things. The answer here is clearly "no." Have fun with that :-) You got anything of substance you want to discuss, or were my actual arguments too much for you to handle? (that's how you make a rhetorical ad hominem logical fallacy, brother!)
/r/MensRights04/07/17 06:08 PM
1

Can you understand that not everyone is you? That not every doctor is your doctor? And that not everyone's procedure went well? Do you get that there are other people in the world, and some of them are in emotional and physical pain because of this? Or do you think those of us claiming it are lying because it's such a popular thing to claim to be a victim of botched circumcision? Yeah, it really brings in the ladies and the donations, bro.
/r/MensRights03/07/17 05:22 PM
1

Oh? Do I hate the mythical offspring of an old legend? It must be, because you said so. May as well accuse me of hating the Knights of the Round Table while you're at it. Or smurfs. Those little blue fuckers. I really hate them.
/r/MensRights03/07/17 03:22 PM
1

I love how this guys asks why it's his responsibility to provide legit links, after he just tried to provide what he thought were some legit links. Cognitive dissonance much, anybody?
/r/MensRights03/07/17 03:03 PM
1

What is your purpose is trying to make sure the Christians and Muslims are included in the blame? Do you think that makes the Jews less to blame? I mean I'm totally cool with including them. I do, myself, anyway, include them in the blame. But you seem to be trying to insist on it as if that would somehow absolve the Jews of their part in it. That's a bit odd. You seem like a pro-semite.
/r/MensRights03/07/17 03:02 PM
1

There's a really big difference in what those things mean... One means 'It's no more complicated than blaming the Jews,' The other means 'it's no more complicated than blaming silly religious myths.' You're seriously not seeing the difference there?
/r/MensRights03/07/17 02:59 PM
0

Apparently you're new to the internet, so let me help you out. People are going to tell you to STFU all the time here. Especially you, because...well let's face it, you're dumb. But even if you weren't they would still tell you to stfu bitch! And things like that. Here's what they're not allowed to do - force you to shut up. If someone tries to do that, then good for you standing up for yourself. But with people telling you their opinion that you should shut up, you have exactly zero rights or p…
/r/MensRights03/07/17 02:58 PM
0

Except that's not what I said, despite your flagrant use of quotation marks. I'm suggesting that, if you don't understand why people are upset about this; if you can't get that state of mind because you haven't really bothered to think about it enough, then maybe you should make the choice to silence yourself. You're casually dismissing the torture of people when they aren't able to defend their self. And if you don't get that it's torture, that's exactly the kind of ignorance I'm suggesting you…
/r/MensRights03/07/17 04:21 AM
1

By scarring his nerves, causing anything from a lack of feeling to a painful over-abundance of it. I personally have a very sensitive groin region, very likely because of my circumcision, which left more scarring than what I've seen through reference. It's difficult for me to be touched there; can't even get blowjobs. And it has affected my sexual confidence, so it's affected my relationships in general. I was a little baby. A baby. I had no clue, and no choice. And they cut off one of the most …
/r/MensRights03/07/17 04:06 AM
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Maybe don't surf reddit at work, and you won't have that problem, bro. Work is for work, not for playing. Who's money are you wasting?
/r/MensRights03/07/17 04:04 AM
0

What's telling is that you think I brought them up. Do you even read who you're talking to?
/r/MensRights03/07/17 04:03 AM
1

Oh, I see what you're issue is. You think the person was saying "nothing more" as in "and no one else was involved; only the Jews." But what they're saying is "nothing more" as in "and it's not any more complicated than that." Does that take care of the sand in your vagina? Of course it's not only the jews responsible. But they're the most famous iteration of dick choppers, and they are among them, so they get the bulk of the blame. I'm fine with that. I'm also fine with blaming Christians and M…
/r/MensRights03/07/17 04:00 AM
1

Yeah, see, I was looking for peer-reviewed conclusions of scientific experiments, not speculative hypotheses. People can say all kinds of things. I want to know what the demonstrated differences have been, and as far as I'm aware, the only conclusively demonstrated difference between circumcised and uncircumcised dicks is hygienic. Stuff your superior attitude up your urethra, bro. You aren't smart enough to attempt to chide how much information I have.
/r/MensRights03/07/17 03:56 AM
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OP, will you please let us know in about twenty years just how badly this has affected your son? I want to start seeing more testimony from parents and children so we can bring this into the public view.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:49 PM
4

That it can be done so improperly, and so frequently, is why there is something wrong with doing it to kids. Because the trade off is having to wash your dick a little more frequently, and that's not a sufficient benefit to risk this. And you're asshole for not understanding that.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:45 PM
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If, by antisemitism, you mean acknowledging the circumcision was popularized by Jews, and largely propagated by them, Christians, and Muslims, then I guess so. I don't call that antisemitism though. I call it being aware of history, and the impact that religious fundamentalism can have on individual lives. When you actually look at it, it's ugly, and I think it's that ugly reaction to something Jews, Christians, and Muslims are doing to babies that you want to call antisemitism, so that people w…
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:44 PM
-8

But, in communication, that's what matters, right? That you got what he meant. To make a point of his grammar or syntax, when you've already gotten what he means, is to make a fallacious ad hominem attack on his intellect, and by irrational extension the apparent validity of his argument. So the person who took that contention didn't succeed in clearing anything up that was misunderstood. You only succeeded in demonstrating that "you're not wrong... you're just an asshole."
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:38 PM
2

And what are those medical grounds again? Remind me please, or show me, because I'm only aware of the "it gets a little dirtier" issue, and that's basic hygiene, not something as high and mighty as "medical" reasons.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:35 PM
-2

You like arguments from authority? Awww, isn't that cute.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:33 PM
1

I mean, that just adds to the list of guilty people, again it doesn't absolve any of the people involved. So fuck the Egyptian religious fundamentalists, along with the Jewish, Christian, and Muslims ones, then. I'm okay with that modification, lol.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:32 PM
1

Oh, there we go, he's gonna make a Reductio ad Hitlerium argument next. Watch out, everybody, you're about to be Hitler because you're aware that Jews popularized, and Christians and Muslims helped propagate, this sick practice of cutting up little boys penises. Fucking Hitler's, every one of you.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:30 PM
5

I'm very glad that you're very wrong. Acknowledging and talking about problems is the first step to solving them, and this is an issue that has continued under silent consent for far too long. My small voice and my singular upvote lends to a mass of other people who have decided to speak up about this too. And together, we are drawing attention to the issue. But... "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us i…
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:12 PM
-11

Please do not put an NSFW tag on this. This is not safe for life, and it is more important than anyone's job or their delicate sensibilities. There's nothing unsafe about looking at blood. What's unsafe is this idea, and it wont be put to rest until people look at it and talk about it. Thank you for the post.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:10 PM
-8

Fuck your work. This is not safe for life, and as long as you ignore it for being unsettling, it will continue.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:08 PM
10

Blood is safe to look at. It's the idea here that isn't safe.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:07 PM
32

That...is what normally comes out of dicks. [I shouldn't even joke on this subject, but I couldn't help myself. Now, back to being rightfully angry...]
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:03 PM
8

scholastic, rather than academic, but we get you :-). Not trying to be a grammar Nazi.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:02 PM
5

What you don't get is that your lack of concern adds to the problem. You don't need to do anything. Just stop doing what you're doing; being apathetic. Be silent if you can't get on the right side of this.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 06:01 PM
0

Because the hospital just did so right by her, that she should immediately rush back into their arms for the solution to the problem they just made. Yaaaaay logic!
/r/MensRights02/07/17 05:50 PM
10

I'm glad your indifference means other people aren't suffering from the continued practice. Thanks for adding your silent consent to this barbarism.
/r/MensRights02/07/17 05:49 PM
16

"medical." Cause it could get a little dirty, and so it's worth inducing nerve trauma, massive bleeding, and reduced sexual gratification.... because ewww, dirty. I don't wanna have to wash stuff. "medical."
/r/MensRights02/07/17 05:48 PM
3

So what? Christians and Muslims adopted the barbaric practice of Jewish child mutilation. Why does that absolve either them or the Jews or the religious crime they are committing against the world?
/r/MensRights02/07/17 05:46 PM
4

Yeah, we didn't bring Jews into our diapers. I didn't consent to that. Jews, then Christians, and then Muslims decided they had some right to touch our junk as babies. So, good question, did the Jews have to bring the Jews into this?
/r/MensRights02/07/17 05:44 PM
17

But you could understand people getting upset about for whom there has been nerve damage and trauma, right? What's the point in saying yours turned out okay, when there are too many examples like this where it didn't turn out okay? Is that risk worth it to you?
/r/MensRights02/07/17 05:42 PM
1

Because it's definitely a "him" and he's definitely guilty.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 09:54 AM
1

feminists don't care that she's Jewish. Anti-zionists do, because she's a mouthpiece for the Israeli military, and thinks its okay that they're engaged in hostile occupation and genocide in Palestine.
/r/MensRights20/06/17 11:17 PM
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Can't be kicked out; they won't let men in.
/r/MensRights13/06/17 07:57 PM
3

That is accurate.
/r/MensRights08/04/17 08:34 AM
1

My sister did similarly. It can be done by a responsible person.
/r/MensRights08/04/17 08:32 AM
4

It's also about job risk and job stress, and the decision to take easier, safer jobs.
/r/MensRights08/04/17 08:30 AM
1

That's just as good a reason for a wage gap. It's not equal work, so it shouldn't be equal pay. And I'd stand by that for jobs that women are better at too. If you're better at something, you should get paid more than someone who isn't as good at it.
/r/MensRights05/04/17 10:19 PM
1

Indeed. The wars are rarely for the reasons we're told.
/r/MensRights04/04/17 02:13 AM
1

There's an extensive history of US-Russian(USSR) conflict in Vietnam. Take a look at the [List of Proxy Wars on Wikipedia] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proxy_wars). You'll see that there are several wars in Vietnam where the USSR is support for one side, and the US is support for the other side. The Korean and Vietnam wars were both critical Cold War proxy wars. The central issue of those wars was the success or failure of communism in Europe and Asia. Here are some other resources exp…
/r/MensRights03/04/17 07:58 PM
1

Obama was the one who drafted the immigration ban, and Trump walked right into the trap. Or welcomed it; one of the two. He either liked it or he didn't care that the travel ban was aimed at predominantly Muslim countries that aren't under our commercial control (no ban to places like Indonesia because they make lots of our cheap products to sell here). But Obama didn't do anything like that (he was still a horrible President that did some really tyrannical stuff, like EO 13603, and signing Citi…
/r/MensRights03/04/17 05:25 PM
1

Except he did get it, after I pointed it out to him. Check his later comment. No gender was stated, but it was very obviously implied.
/r/MensRights03/04/17 05:11 PM
1

I'm in the US. Infantry is outmoded; we have precision drones, and our military commanders don't care if they take 50 civilians along with their target. That's precise enough for them. They do run this country, and frankly the world, along with the massive corporate conglomerates. The debt doesn't matter either, because no one can collect on them, and they'll drag the entire world's economy down if anyone tries to tip their heavily-leveraged cart over. It's uncollectible debt. We weren't trying …
/r/MensRights03/04/17 10:54 AM
-1

You think we should follow the example of countries with weaker militaries than ours? You are incorrect that social morality has no place in combat. It doesn't only matter that we win; it matters how we win. Trump got in because Hillary Clinton is a power-hungry elitist and her family is attempting to establish another dynasty of presidents in this country. And because there was a strong backlash from the many racist people in this country against having juts had a black President. They got out …
/r/MensRights03/04/17 02:59 AM
6

Obviously, the average male physique is more powerful and suited to combat than the average female physique, but a very important factor is being left out when deciding that an all male military will therefore be most effective. What happens to a society that engages in sexism? Disparities like that grow into civil unrest, and a country at war with itself is less able to defend itself than a country at peace with itself. An all male military might do better if all other things were equal. But al…
/r/MensRights03/04/17 02:41 AM
-3

You realize the question about wanting to do this kind of work was directed at women, correct? So you answered a question being asked to women. Not my fault I thought you were a woman then.
/r/MensRights02/04/17 09:51 PM
16

Oh, so we should go die in war because we're better than women? You just went from stupid to sexist. Stop digging that hole bro...
/r/MensRights02/04/17 09:50 PM
3

fuck you.
/r/MensRights02/04/17 09:44 PM
14

Yeah, you better provide some evidence for that shit. Sounds like a load, to me. I've worked typical guy jobs, and I've worked gender neutral jobs. I don't see or hear you ladies being hounded out of employment. And I'm a white guy who sees and acknowledges white privilege, so it's not about being myopic to the suffering of others outside my demographic. I'm willing to see and hear that women are being mis-treated sometimes, and I'm willing to speak up about it when I see it. I just don't see wh…
/r/MensRights02/04/17 09:41 PM
27

We're designed to die in wars instead of women? Get fucked, bro.
/r/MensRights02/04/17 09:38 PM
23

Well, when we start seeing a bunch of women actually taking us up on this offer, and doing the hard dangerous jobs that typically fall to men, then we won't make sarcastic remarks about the wage gap like this. There's a gap for a reason, and the reason is that most women wont do this kind of work.
/r/MensRights02/04/17 09:37 PM
1

Sometimes, but sometimes not. And that's the point some of us are trying to make to you: that there isn't a general rule that fits all situations. Each situation needs its own scrutiny to figure out a best course of action. Trying to say that people should never fight back physically, or that they should always fight back physically, or that they should always defer to an "authority" (whatever that means), or never defer to an "authority" - is a good way to oppress people.
/r/MensRights26/02/17 12:05 AM
5

It isn't always better to allow violence to go unpunished. Sometimes that encourages more violence. People are opportunistic. They'll get away with what other people let them get away with. And if it benefits them, they'll keep doing it until someone steps up and stops them. But religions and governments have sold people on deferential notions like that, to keep people happy with their station in life and prevent people from rising up against them. Like Napolean said : "Religion is what keeps th…
/r/MensRights25/02/17 10:11 PM
2

No, this is the way it's supposed to be. It's among the most fundamental natural laws that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Women have warped society to contravene that principle, and it's a very destructive trend.
/r/MensRights25/02/17 09:59 PM
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More like they're trying to goad men into hitting them back so they can cry abuse and take as much of his property as the courts are willing to give her, which is usually a lot. They're not really interested in a fight - most women know they'd lose a fight against most men. But they also know that society has their back, and it doesn't have the man's back. So they instigate because they know they won't have to fight their own fight. Society will do their fighting for them. In short, women are no…
/r/MensRights25/02/17 09:56 PM
1

So when women celebrate being women, and talk about working towards women's rights, and they never mention men's rights.... that doesn't bug you? You're fine with people hyper-focusing on the rights of a sub-group of humanity and ignoring the rights of the rest? Because however feminism makes you feel, men's day makes women feel.
/r/MensRights23/11/16 12:41 AM
1

If we don't have to feel bad about who we are, then why do we need a holiday to celebrate who we are? I'm a man who treats people well, and therefore has no shame about being a man... and I think men's day is divisive. It probably makes women feel the same way it makes me feel when they have women's day. Left out.
/r/MensRights22/11/16 12:30 AM
0

Except we see the results of it, don't we. It's not just my speculation. People are nicer to each other on Christmas; they donate to needy people more around thanksgiving; and they feel justified in being very selfish on their birthdays (indignant, even, if they aren't allowed to be as selfish as they want to be). The proof is in the pudding. You can ignore it all you want, though, in order to fulfill your own narrative, because you're sure you're right.
/r/MensRights20/11/16 05:26 AM
1

Exaaaactly So you're celebration of men's day is a vindictive reaction to women celebrating women's day. Do you see what women having a day all about themselves did to you? It divided you from them. It made you resent their exclusivism because it made you feel unimportant. It does the same thing to me. And you having a men's day does the same thing to women. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words divide and conquer.
/r/MensRights19/11/16 11:52 PM
1

Because when it's your day, other people feel like it's not their day. Yes, I'm against relegating the study and celebration of black people to a month, and even of limiting it to a study and celebration of black people instead of all people. The history of people of African decent is the history of all people. When you decide to limit that history to a specific time-frame, and specific sub-group of humanity, you have divided us. Our words; our jokes; our celebrations - shape our thoughts. It ma…
/r/MensRights19/11/16 11:50 PM
0

Who ever said we aren't different? You and one other guy assumed that's what I was talking about, but it wasn't. We're different, that's fine. It still makes women feel left out to have a day exclusively about celebrating men. Same as it makes you and I a little indignant when women's groups exclude men, and focus only on getting rights and money and stability for women, while men suffer from problems of those kinds as well. What I'm saying is, celebrate life, and focus on helping people improve…
/r/MensRights19/11/16 10:55 AM
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Like I said, I don't support a day exclusively about women either. Women's exclusivity is part of the problem too. But you supporting the other part of the problem doesn't mean the two parts add up into a solution. Your reasoning is essentially that two wrongs make a right. It's flawed.
/r/MensRights19/11/16 10:50 AM
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I don't support a day exclusively about men anymore than a day exclusively about women. Stop the divisive bullshit. We're all people.
/r/MensRights18/11/16 11:15 PM
11

You contribute to the problem by biting your tongue (except anonymously online, where you don't matter). Be willing to be disliked, or you are consenting to the tradition. "In situations of clear oppression, to remain silent is to side with the oppressor."
/r/MensRights24/09/16 12:58 PM
2

She should get at least the average sentence for rape convictions in Germany.
/r/MensRights22/08/16 09:46 PM
4

That's right; you can't hide from us like we're beasts. You have to deal with us like we're people. I know that's more work, but trust me, it's a lot of work treating some of you like humans too, sometimes.
/r/MensRights21/08/16 10:47 PM
2

Did I say 'for what is on average a life sentence...?" No, I said "for what could have been a life sentence." And since that also does happen, despite the average, my point stands. Besides, she still only got one sixth of the average of actual time served, and she probably wont serve her entire sentence herself. She'll probably see three months and then have her sentence suspended or commuted, and she'll be out on the street, prowling for her next victim. Interesting hearing women talked about i…
/r/MensRights19/08/16 06:58 PM
1

That's a slap on the wrist for what could have been a life sentence full or anal rape, had the man been convicted. Bitch.
/r/MensRights19/08/16 06:41 PM
1

It's just disappointing to me that some people require being given something by others, before they are willing to give something to others. It's a recipe for complete division and selfishness. "You can easily judge the character of a person by how they treat those who can do nothing for them."
/r/MensRights11/08/16 04:53 PM
2

yeah, because popular equals good.
/r/MensRights11/08/16 04:51 PM
2

This mentality is how to perpetuate gender wars forever. Good job, everyone.
/r/MensRights11/08/16 04:39 PM
3

The argument from relative privation. Just because other things are happening, this thing suddenly doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights05/08/16 06:52 PM
0

Actually, I did, but you can't read very well. Go back and look again, then you can apologize when you feel like it.
/r/MensRights22/07/16 01:12 AM
1

By the way, I'm in my thirties. You're not talking with a kid who doesn't know the nuances of the real estate market. I'm well aware of the cost of homes and all of the things that fill them. You feel free to quiz me, if you need that to feel satisfied.
/r/MensRights22/07/16 01:11 AM
1

And you have no idea how much the house cost, so how can you even begin a calculation to see if the other expenses add up to the cost of the house? You can't. I can, because I lived there. I'm telling you she put way more into the value of that house than it cost at purchase. You can either believe me or not, because I'm not going to itemize everything for you - I am merely offering an anecdotal example of why a person might want to have some ownership of the assets in a relationship without nec…
/r/MensRights22/07/16 01:06 AM
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You quoted me, but then you asked additional questions that I had already addressed. You're not paying attention; you're trying to push an attitude on me, and I'm not dealing with whatever your problem is right now. Take it up with someone who'll let you be abusive to them, cuz it ain't me.
/r/MensRights22/07/16 12:58 AM
1

I am suggesting that food for 4 people costs a lot of money every month, yes, and is an appreciable expense. And the other expenses were things like new roofing and siding, new water heater and refrigerator, new laundry units, paving the driveway, installing new windows, paying for electric re-wiring, and doing a massive amount of landscaping that added considerably to the market value of the property. If you don't know how the tangential expenses of owning a home can add up to more than the hom…
/r/MensRights22/07/16 12:55 AM
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No... you clearly have trouble reading. No point in continuing with you if you can't take the time to hear what other people are saying.
/r/MensRights22/07/16 12:51 AM
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Cuz it's all about money, and love don't matter. Fuck a poor bitch; they don't deserve no love.
/r/MensRights21/07/16 11:14 PM
1

Not according to the church, which is how most people in this country get married.
/r/MensRights21/07/16 11:13 PM
1

You're ignoring a lot of other benefits given to married couples in order to make the income tax drain sound like it balances things out. It doesn't. Not even close. Look further into all the benefits and breaks that married people get. It's significant. If you're married and you aren't better off, then you just aren't aware of all the advantages you could be taking.
/r/MensRights21/07/16 11:12 PM
1

The value of her contributions did easily exceed the purchase price of the home, by far. And her additions significantly increased the value of the home (lots of landscaping and appliance/equipment upgrading out of her pocket). She also paid for all of the food for twenty years in that house, and cooked it, and did most of the cleaning, while working and going to school. So yes, she definitely did put more money into it than he did. But she did it over 20 years, so that's not the same as having …
/r/MensRights21/07/16 11:08 PM
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the whole point of marriage used to be that it "trapped" you No, that's just not even remotely true. Maybe that's your conception of what marriage is, and in which case I suggest you don't ever get married. Marriage should definitely be something both parties want to be in, not an ultimatum where they have to choose between staying married or being homeless. At the very least, both people should have co-ownership of their house, if they are married. A whole separate house is excessive though, im…
/r/MensRights21/07/16 10:44 PM
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She wants to not feel trapped with you. My mom went through this with two guys in my lifetime. Some guys want to keep hold of the property and have things in their name because it gives them leverage in the relationship. The person who has to leave if things go badly is always going to be more likely to cave and put up with bullshit they otherwise wouldn't have. And that's not fair. Don't put her in that position or she will resent and grow to hate you for it. It's possible she's trying to be a …
/r/MensRights21/07/16 07:42 PM
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Go left, or go WRONG!
/r/MensRights18/07/16 05:28 PM
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I get your point in the pragmatic sense, and I'm willing to accept a little bit of that kind of exclusivity from the LGBT community because they have been so rudely and often brutally punished for being open about their preferences, but only until there is enough cohesion in the community to allow people to feel comfortable as an individual with a support group, and then they need to stop with the exclusive clubs just like everyone else should stop with that divisive behavior. Gay people ought t…
/r/MensRights18/07/16 07:44 AM
-1

ehh, I can't say I relate to that idea. No one has a right to maintain places where most people are like them. It's discriminatory. Besides, I can't go into a nightclub anywhere and rely on most of the women being attracted to me, anymore than s gay guy can go into a nightclub and expect all the guys there to be interested in him. Gay or straight isn't really relevant there because none of us get the expectation that the people we want to hit on us will hit on us.
/r/MensRights17/07/16 05:55 PM
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It isn't about women not being welcomed in certain places. It's about certain types of behavior not being welcomed... from anyone. But which some women engage in wantonly because society has done such a poor job of telling women they need to shape up. We've wrapped women in so much pity, that we're infantilizing them into horrible human beings with no sense of repercussion for their actions. Some are becoming worse than men ever were, and if they had the physical might to go with their behavior,…
/r/MensRights16/07/16 09:23 PM
4

wow, your mom's really a bigot.
/r/MensRights29/06/16 12:00 AM
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Quite the rigged impression of one-sidedness, at least. If it were as described, I'd say we men should suck it up, but I encounter gender discrimination on a regular basis, and I hear and read about other men getting a lot of the same on a regular basis. But they're things so ingrained in culture that people easily fail to notice them, as a fish may not notice the water for having experienced nothing different.
/r/MensRights24/06/16 10:27 PM
2

All this focus on men's and women's groups is very divisive. I can't get behind any movement or group whose name explicitly suggests one gender and not the other. I'm not patriotic, I don't join fraternities, and I feel dis-included by feminism. All for the same reasons.
/r/MensRights12/06/16 10:19 PM
7

I like how she announced her own entrance at the end. "Here comes the troll..."
/r/MensRights20/05/16 01:04 AM
1

I hope no one ever has sex with her again, and she dies a lonely old spinster. Because you know what? If her lie hadn't been caught, as so many lies of this kind have surely not been caught, then some guy would have wound up in that exact position, plus he's have been ass-raped the entire time he was in jail for not raping this bitch.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 11:02 PM
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Men have a far better idea of what it's like to be attacked, because, compared to how much men beat each other up, men beat women up extremely rarely. Just because the average man has an advantage in overpowering the average woman, does NOT mean he has any advantage against the rest of men. AND society accepts men beating the hell out of each other much more casually than it accepts men beating women, so there is far greater risk of violence from men, if you are indeed a man. We know exactly wha…
/r/MensRights13/04/16 09:13 PM
10

Yeah, I bet the person she falsely accused got tired of answering questions too. Only, if he stopped answering because he was tired of it, he'd have probably gone to jail for a long time, and been ass raped while there. So fuck this bitch not wanting to answer questions. Hound the hell out of her until it's as bad for her as it could have been for him.
/r/MensRights26/03/16 10:52 PM
4

If not commonly known, it's at least commonly portrayed, and that has the effect of ingraining it in people's minds, especially young people. And plenty of young people don't have a stable counter-example at home to prove that conditioning wrong.
/r/MensRights26/03/16 03:39 AM
3

I think it's because the institution of marriage has become too expensive and too socially obligatory. The biggest part of why I never wanted to get married was because people seemed to be treating me like a failure for not being married, and I rebel against irrational social pressures like that. There have been other reasons as well, but that was probably the biggest counter-pressure for marriage to me. And from what I can gather from other men, it's similar for a lot of them too.
/r/MensRights26/03/16 03:38 AM
10

I agree. I'm pro-choice, and I think the choice should go both ways.
/r/MensRights10/03/16 10:29 PM
1

It's nice that you can assert what others should know; what sense should be common to them. And how ironic that it matches up with what you know, and what sense is common to you. Definitely an ego problem here. Try to remember that you were an ignorant idiot once too. And then try to remember what changed that. Was it other people deriding your lack of common sense?
/r/MensRights06/02/16 11:23 PM
1

Stop being obtuse and just tell him that the statistic is skewed because that number represents the percentage of women raped out of the sample population of women who decided to take the survey, not out of ALL WOMEN at college. What exactly is the point in trying to corner someone into asserting incorrect information when you obviously already know why it's incorrect, and could simply tell them? You need everyone to see your superior knowledge? You're harming humanity with that kind of egotism.…
/r/MensRights05/02/16 11:36 PM
2

Well good luck with all the fires then. If the appearance of equality (not actual equality) is more important to you than fighting fires, then burn away.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 10:31 PM
0

Well, maybe they should have stayed out of hell and not signed up so eagerly to blow shit up, and they wouldn't have those problems. I can't be sympathetic when everyone I've ever heard join the military knows nothing about law, or history, or what our country is doing in other countries. They don't give a shit; they just want that paycheck, and those guns, and that respect. Well, they don't have mine, and I'm not paying for their unnecessary recovery. Prevention is the best form of help for peo…
/r/MensRights30/01/16 07:06 PM
2

Which means you're not using brain development as a metric anymore (because that's what current ages of consent are based around), so what metric are you then proposing we use to determine when someone is capable of consenting? It's fine to say there's a problem with the current system, and I'm even inclined to agree. But try coming up with a better alternative. It's a lot harder than you think.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 02:59 PM
1

So if I can get a three-year-old to say she consents, we're good to go?
/r/MensRights17/12/15 11:57 AM
1

You persist with this idea that anyone is saying you should feel ashamed for being circumcised. No one saying that. I repeat. No one is saying that. I'm gonna say it one more time, because it really does not seem to be getting through to you, no matter how much people keep saying it to you - NO ONE IS SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED! But shifting the focus to feeling good about yourself, instead of getting pissed off at the people who continue to circumcise, is missing the point entirely. It's…
/r/MensRights14/12/15 04:22 AM
1

It can. It's affected me pretty heavily. I not only have low sensitivity in the head of my penis, I also have heightened sensitivity in my surrounding groin area, to the point that it can be painful to even be touched there. Never had any injuries or other neurological damage in my life. So I wonder what those issues might stem from? It's had an enormous affect on my ability to have intimate relationships in my life. There were times when I could not get hard because of the sensitivity of being …
/r/MensRights13/12/15 03:27 PM
1

Okay, that's all I see anyone else here saying too. But this is not what you seemed to be saying at first, juts so you understand why people are arguing with you. You seemed to be dismissing the robbing of choice, and instead focused on getting over it. We'll be fine with the getting over it part once it has stopped. But to suggest a coping strategy while the assault is still ongoing is offensive to those being attacked.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 03:21 PM
1

Never in my life have I heard someone assert that circumsized penises have something wrong with them, and that the victims of circumcision should be ashamed. Saying that a surgery was unnecessary and that it results in loss of sensation, possible nervous damage, and possible death, is not the same thing as saying that the person who received the surgery is bad and should be ashamed, especially when they receive it with no choice. You have entirely invented this argument to fight against because …
/r/MensRights13/12/15 03:17 PM
2

I'm amazed at the number of people who don't see that clearly.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 03:13 PM
1

So you agree that the fact you weren't given a choice about being circumcised is what really matters, and that you should be pissed off about it?
/r/MensRights13/12/15 03:12 PM
1

Thankful for every part except the foreskin, apparently. Where's your pride for that part?
/r/MensRights13/12/15 03:11 PM
1

Too dumb to recognize sarcasm when you see it? I thought I was laying it on pretty thick there.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 02:49 PM
1

Lol, let's have tea, since we're pretending we don't care about the conversation we took time to publish responses to. No thanks, I'll get as upset as I want about issues I consider important. Maybe you need to get a little upset once in a while in your ivory tower.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 02:36 PM
1

Useful to the world, jackass. I give a fuck about what's useful to individuals, by comparison. And I get out plenty. Bitches are just bitches.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 02:31 PM
2

It's my understanding that getting close to objectivity would be like counting close to infinity. I think what honesty requires of each of us, and this is just my opinion, is that we acknowledge that everything we say is probably just our opinion, and that others likely disagree in a wide variety of ways, with us and with each other. I hear the phrase "common sense" being tossed around a lot, especially when it comes to how people should treat each other and behave in general, but I don't hear m…
/r/MensRights13/12/15 05:22 AM
4

Looks like it made sense to someone. You got it. Regardless of being stronger, doing heavier lifting is more work. It takes more energy. Men have to eat more and we tend to work out more, in order to have the muscle mass and ATP capacity for all that heavy lifting you seem to think we just love doing. More work should equal more pay. Hasn't the slogan always been 'equal work for equal pay?' Well yes, yes it has. It bothers me that a discriminatory practice such as paying someone the same for mor…
/r/MensRights13/12/15 05:07 AM
5

Objectivity is a conditional term. It is either complete, or it is not properly called objectivity. Anything short of objectivity is subjectivity. To even say 'complete objectivity' would be redundant because objectivity is itself a complete and singular state of being un-influenced by prior notions. Any influence by prior notions does NOT make the objectivity incomplete; it transforms it into subjectivity. So it makes no sense to say that you are being as objective as possible. You are either o…
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:59 PM
6

Then you also agree that we should get paid more, right?
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:50 PM
5

I worked in the African mining industry. They cut off my hand when I failed to meet a quota last week. There are good and bad things to say about the mining industry, but what's important is that I learn to accept my stumpy hand for what it is. A stump. That's what matters. Let's stop talking about mining and focus on stroking our egos.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:46 PM
8

So you're now saying the opposite of what you said at first, because of reasons? Okay.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:44 PM
6

There's a LOT out there. Stop trying to diminish the counter-argument to your argument and acknowledge it, or we can't have an honest conversation.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:42 PM
1

Lol, that you think things you say aren't arguable. There you go trying to be god again.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:42 PM
2

I don't hate some women. Yeah, that's fair to say. I don't hate some men too. It has nothing to do with what's between either of their legs, and only to do with what kind of person they are. I just don't find most women that I've known to be very pleasant or useful people.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:39 PM
6

You're deluding yourself into thinking you have an objective point of view. You've said it several times now, and it's just arrogant to assume that you are capable of removing all the influences in your life from your consideration of an issue, and conclude on that issue independently of anything and everything you've ever been through. Objectivity only exists if Gods exist, and I'm very doubtful about that. But I'm pretty sure you're not one.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:37 PM
3

Anyone can find anything degrading. That's not enough reason to take the issue seriously. If I see a man doing something offensive, and I feel offended as a man because I think he represents all men...well then I'm just an idiot, aren't I?
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:35 PM
2

Well that's nice of you to decide for us that our complaints aren't legitimate and that we're just being whiny. I know that's not very manly of us, and we should just suck it up, right? Men can't be harmed, after all. And it's pretty typical of us to complain for no reason. That's what we're known for; being emotional complainers.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 05:31 PM
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The women being degraded in porn are....WOMEN! That's women degrading themselves, not men forcing them to degrade themselves. And women choosing steroidal assholes instead of decent guys IS a sexist issue. It's also a global issue, because it affects which type of men succeed at spreading their genetics; violent, lying, assholes or decent, honest men.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 02:38 PM
1

Yeah, jobs like invading foreign nations to built roads and bridges for corporations to come exploit the country's resources. Jobs to kill resistors to those invasions. Jobs training the next hostile puppet regime for whichever African or Middle Eastern nation we're destabilizing today. All very honorable jobs, I'm sure. How about you do some humanitarian work in your own country and stop trying to force Western Imperialism on the rest of the world. You probably don't even know or care that's wh…
/r/MensRights07/12/15 10:09 AM
1

Private Mercenary Contractor isn't a job; it's a type of exploitation. It's piracy.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 09:57 AM
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