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The thing is, my buddy who is a farmer also works out in his massive home gym. You can do both, and many do.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/04/17 08:35 PM
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Don't marry someone you think might fuck you over like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:08 PM
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Sack tapping and butt slapping IS SEXUAL ASSAULT. Its not just rape, its any sexual contact without consent. "Without consent" being the operative word here. I'm not defending a game of non-consensual grab-ass, because yes, that's assault. With consent, it's just horseplay, which has its place. So again, I'm sure a few friends would not mind having their butts slapped, but what about everyone else at your job? We're not talking about everyone else, we're talking about friends. That's like saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:25 PM
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There are many forms of sexual assault, not just random groping. You're assuming sack-tapping and butt-slapping among friends is what accounts for the sexual assault figures and you're not explaining how you got there. Right now it just looks like you're calling it assault because you say it's non-consensual, and you say it's non-consensual because you're calling it assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:55 PM
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If you're not going to accept that it's occurring consensually among close friends during down time/liberty I don't know that there's anything more to discuss. We're talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:10 PM
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There are no laws against what people do with their coworkers with consent on their own time. It only becomes an issue when it's unwelcome, and that's not what I'm defending, and that's not the rampant sexual assault that's happening in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 07:16 AM
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If you don't consent to the type of faux-homoerotic bonding that occurs in the military, there is no one who will stand in your way of reporting it. All you have to do is speak up. Military servicemen are given SAPR classes regularly that address the importance of respecting personal boundaries and reporting violations thereof. If you don't have the spine to stand up for yourself among your colleagues, what are you doing in the trade of warfighting in the first place? This hellish environment of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 12:48 AM
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Lol, it doesn't matter if you don't care. It's not assault if it's consensual. Consent is literally the difference between assault and bonding. Just because it doesn't live up to your preferred standards of sexual conduct doesn't make it assault. In the cases where it's not consensual, that's assault. And that's a real problem in the military, but a separate issue altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:39 PM
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That's not the everyday sack tapping and butt slapping we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:59 PM
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Damn you!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 01:59 PM
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It's all consensual. It's just not the same when there's sexual tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 01:18 PM
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That's changing because of this exact issue. Starting next year, both sexes will have the same standardized PFT minimum scores. Perfect will be 23 pull ups, minimum will be 7 (don't quote me on that one) and the alternative of doing push-ups will be available to both sexes, 80 being the max but only earning a 75% score for that portion of the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 01:15 PM
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Because millennials are broke and weddings are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:05 PM
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Hey there! I didn't go to an Adventist university, but I did go to an Adventist prep school for a couple years. I still go to church now and then to appease my mom. I became an atheist back when Facebook debates were starting to become a thing, and I was an avid apologist for Christianity on Facebook groups. This exposed me to perspectives and arguments I had yet to consider, and I found myself unable to reconcile my previously-held beliefs with what actually made sense to me. I've been an athei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:47 PM
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Man, Atheist, raised strict Seventh-Day-Adventist. The Bible doesn't inform my beliefs about gender roles at all. It's full of laws and customs that end in a raw deal for women, and I don't think any of that is useful today. I think the genders should be as equal as possible, and the roles should be distributed individually, not by gender. I understand there are clear differences between the genders and most will naturally fall into traditional gender roles and that's fine. I just don't see any …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:55 PM
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Why bother with all the bullshit then? Just pay women to hang out with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:18 AM
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Then they shouldn't agree to dates with people whose company they're not enjoying. You're arguing that women should be paid for their company, and there's already an industry for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:16 AM
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Lol "the only thing that matters in life is being tall." This is obvious troll material. If you fall for something like this you deserve to suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:25 PM
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I'm pretty sure this exact scenario also happens to men. It's happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:18 PM
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Of course it is. Instead of considering the possibility that you tend to choose your partners poorly or attract bad people, it's more comforting to think AWALT or AMALT. It's not you that's flawed, it's the entire opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:57 PM
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Sure it is. The gains I've reaped are exactly what the TRPer is going for when he lifts. He's just using the gains to increase his SMV, which I'm indifferent to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:49 PM
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You can ask, but a man's accomplishments aren't a currency that entitles them to sex. Why the fuck would they be?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:13 AM
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Lol, sex "from" women. Like it's a favor to you and not something you both want. Men and women do have sex. In the same sense that men as a collective are responsible for all the world's infrastructure, men as a collective have sex with women. There's no entitlement involved, it's just something that happens. No one is entitled to anything that involves anyone else. Real simple stuff here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:11 AM
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Just do you. Don't worry about being masculine. There's nothing less masculine than worrying if you're masculine enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:00 AM
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I don't lift to impress women. I lift because it's a healthy lifestyle I actually enjoy. I love looking good in fitted clothes and being able to participate in athletic events. I'm married, I don't care what random girls think of me. Fitness is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:16 AM
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Is there no superficial element to attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 01:55 PM
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So don't marry someone just so they'll have sex with you? No one is doing that, except perhaps old rich men. Like I said, it's hardly a revelation. It's like putting out a PSA not to eat hot coals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 12:29 AM
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So... What's your point then? Don't marry someone you can't trust or whose history makes you uncomfortable? This is hardly a revelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 11:06 PM
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Yes. Maybe in some cases. Mine? Definitely not. Most people's? Probably not. Overall it just looks like the artist is drawing from personal experience and trying to convince himself that all married men are betas rather than face the fact that his wife's past is a little too colorful for his liking. It's laughable to consider this a PSA.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:49 PM
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What happened to "high price?" Sounds like you're suddenly happy with the deal you got.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:41 PM
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You have a really fucked up view of marriage if you think it just boils down to an exchange of sex for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 03:19 PM
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Begin a very successful career as a psychic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 02:46 PM
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I'm not seeing a rebuttal here...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 10:10 AM
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Yes, and your evidence is a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 01:56 AM
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You can't prove to me that God doesn't exist. The Bible is my evidence that he exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 12:48 AM
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Lol ok buddy. It can't be that your social circle is shit. All gays are broken. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 07:00 PM
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You're not really contradicting my main point. You still fail to understand that sexual orientation isn't as fluid for everyone as it was for you, and that's what allows you to view sexual orientation as a choice when there's no research supporting that claim. You happened to be broken when you were gay, therefore all gay people are broken? You're trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 04:55 PM
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You are a perfect picture of what I've long suspected of many "open homophobes" proclaiming that homosexuality is a choice. You grew up being taught that homosexuality was a sin, and yet you had homosexual urges. This made sense to you, since most sins were tempting delights anyway, so you assumed everyone suffered the same temptations you did. After indulging yourself for a while, you decided to "get clean." You're not ready to accept the possibility that sexual orientation isn't as fluid for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 12:22 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 11:51 AM
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Yes, and atheists worship Satan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 10:34 AM
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That's really not my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:49 AM
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On a side note, "sweetie" doesn't sound condescending anymore. It just sounds butthurt. I avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 09:38 PM
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You're alpha if you do what you want with your life. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 01:13 PM
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Makes sense. Most people don't care if they're actually right or wrong, as long as they get to feel superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 10:49 AM
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Ah, maybe. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 05:11 PM
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If you do it right, you don't even have to pull out that far. You do have to have a pretty good amount of control, so it's a fairly athletic move. But that's what makes it so hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 05:00 PM
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One arm down to support yourself, the other arm holding her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 03:05 PM
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It may take some core/leg strength depending on how heavy your partner is, but basically you're scooting your legs underneath yourself so that you end up squatting on your haunches, then you just fall down to your knees and into missionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 02:46 PM
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Manhandle her. When you're switching from her on top to you on top, don't roll to the side or pull out. Sit up, pick her up and get your legs out from under you, then plunge down on top of her into missionary. It's worked great for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 02:11 PM
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This is ideal. Some things are over the top and by no means required, but for the most part this is actually my wife to a T, and we're doing splendidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 02:06 PM
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Shoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 03:50 PM
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Anyone who disagrees with the doctrine "just didn't read enough." Sounds familiar. Look, I evaluate TRP based on both the sidebar doctrine and the varying views of its adherents. If you feel triggered when I say something bad about TRP because of something another TRPer said, deal with it. I'm not going to sit and argue with you over definitions and what's "officially" an RP position. Your argument is with the person I'm talking about, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 03:35 PM
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I'm sure you do. I know being a decent human being makes it harder for you to achieve your goals. Welcome to maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 03:24 PM
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Thank goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 08:07 PM
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TIL you have to be an expert on something before you can say it's bullshit. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 08:07 PM
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I've said this like three times now. There's a thin layer of feces on everything we touch. That doesn't mean I'm gonna eat shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 08:04 PM
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Breathe, dude. I argue on here to kill time when work is slow. No one's building empires on PPD. I don't need to read 12 books on RP philosophy when I see it in action on the sub every day. Relax, you're going to pop a blood vessel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:37 PM
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Everything's also covered in a layer of feces, I'm still not eating shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:31 PM
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You actually haven't defined dread, you've just named its purpose, albeit vaguely. You've done nothing to show it's not manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:24 PM
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Given our other exchanges, I think we agree on what's acceptable behavior and what's not. We just disagree on whether TRP endorses the unacceptable behaviors. TBP is pretty much just a collection of quotes from TRPers endorsing unacceptable behaviors, so you'll have to understand when people get the idea that they're a part of TRP doctrine. Maybe you guys need a #notallTRPers movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:33 PM
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What you're calling "dread game" is what normal people just call having a healthy relationship. You've watered it down to the point that there's nothing to object to. We're saying many of the same things. If you think I'm wrong to understand dread game as being about bringing women to heel, you have your fellow TRPers to blame for that. There's plenty of examples stickied on the TBP page.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 12:49 PM
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Read my other posts ITT.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 12:23 PM
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Fair enough. Like I said, it's up to the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 11:03 AM
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I simply contradict you. If it were genuine it wouldn't be called game. It would just be called making decisions as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 11:01 AM
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I run 5k every day and at my speed it doesn't register as steps. Fit problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 09:50 AM
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They feel they're more noble because they'll settle for much less while women don't have to. Them settling is women's problem, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 09:35 AM
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You shouldn't need an external incentive to take care of yourself, and your SO shouldn't need to fear losing you to give you attention. If you find yourself in a situation where all this is necessary you've got a bigger problem on your hands, and operant conditioning is only a behavioral solution. It does nothing to solve the actual problem at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 09:19 AM
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In a thread where dread apologists are objecting to being compared to Hitler and the KKK, you're comparing it to suicide bombing. Love it. You do seem to understand that dread (or "hard dread" as apologists call it) isn't present in a healthy relationship. In any case, the question wasn't "Is all manipulation wrong in all circumstances," it was "Where is emotional manipulation advised in TRP doctrine?" I feel that question has been addressed sufficiently ITT. If you want to talk about what's an …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 09:11 AM
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Shhh, you've triggered them. Don't pile super alpha STEM logic on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 11:44 PM
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There's plenty I'd do before considering leaving. Leaving is a last resort. Pretending to leave is pointless. She's either going to respond or she's not. If she doesn't respond to you leaving, there's not a lot left to save.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 06:23 PM
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The malice is in the method of manipulation, not the desired end state. Of course consensual sex is fine for both parties. But if you obtained consent because the alternative caused her emotional distress, how genuine was that consent, really? By your reasoning you could employ any tactic you want, even a gun to the head, to obtain consent and it's fine because all you wanted was consensual sex, and consensual sex isn't malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 06:16 PM
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The difference is a few months. If you start taking steps to leave, they'll either change their ways or they won't. Giving them a heads up is fine, but it's not obligatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 05:54 PM
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That's all well and good, but none of this has to be dishonest. There's a difference between looking out for #1 and executing a carefully-choreographed mimicry of someone with the balls to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 05:51 PM
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Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 05:34 PM
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Not removing any agency. Just going over what's acceptable behavior on your end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 04:39 PM
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As I said, it's up to you. There's no moral high ground either way. But if deal-breakers are still there with no signs of ever going away, what are you waiting for?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 11:39 AM
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There's really no way to verify that any of that is true. I don't have a problem with people improving themselves to improve their sex/love lives. I have a problem with people using emotional manipulation for their own selfish ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 11:30 AM
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Neither of those things. When either partner is feeling the relationship might be falling apart, you sit down and talk about it like two adults. Once you determine what's wrong, then you can go over your options together, which should be more than simply "my way or the highway." Now, if your partner isn't willing to talk about it, it's up to you as to whether you want to give them time to change their mind or leave right away. Neither of these options requires emotional manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 11:24 AM
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What if I told you I also don't like it when advertisers, lawyers, and politicians manipulate people in those ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 10:16 AM
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If you're doing that for its own sake, more power to you. But if you're just doing it so she'll fall in line, that's manipulative. And oddly enough, by doing so you're being manipulated as well. You're improving yourself because you fear what will happen if you don't. The behaviors in a healthy relationship and a manipulative relationship can potentially be exactly the same, but the intent behind the behaviors makes all the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 10:09 AM
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Define "straying." Do you mean she's not in the mood for sex as often as you'd like? Or is she texting mysterious men you don't know and crossing lines with the things she says? If the latter, why do you want to salvage that in the first place? It seems incredibly beta to be afraid to walk away from someone who doesn't respect your boundaries. And it's far more straightforward to simply talk to your SO about your needs and expectations rather than dreading each other back and forth. That's child…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 09:49 AM
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That's why I included that last sentence. Of course it works, but it's a proverbial gun to the head. She's not engaging in the desired behaviors because she wants to, she's doing it because of what she fears will happen if she doesn't. Even if you don't see anything wrong with that kind of relationship dynamic, you can't deny it's manipulative. If you find yourself unable to maintain a relationship without employing these tactics, something is very, very wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 09:25 AM
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What did you think "more attractive" meant?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 09:04 AM
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For one, dread game can be incredibly emotionally manipulative. It is the practice of deliberately instilling feelings of insecurity in your plate/SO in order to get them to be more attentive to you. I've seen posts praising dread game where the man borderline convinces his wife he's having an affair. One guy did so by reuniting his old band and when he left the house for practice, he'd tell his wife he's going to go see "susan," which unbeknownst to her was the name of his bass violin. Whenever…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 08:51 AM
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I think it's the same overcorrection for past injustices as the "thank you for your service" culture regarding veterans. Women were legitimately oppressed in the 20th century and they've only recently gained better equality. As a result, we're still trying to figure out what's a true injustice for them and what's just a natural result of being that particular sex. We won't always get it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 08:16 AM
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It's not a problem for me. Why is it a problem for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 01:17 PM
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It's a common defense mechanism. Terper gets burned in a relationship, and instead of accepting the fact that he chooses women poorly, he decides most women must be like this and most men must go through this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 05:00 PM
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Losing a job need not be something that affects her respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 03:09 AM
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It's not feminine cultural programming (wtf?). It's the fact that women have a choice whether or not they'll fuck you again, and the best way to make sure she will is to make it pleasurable for her, not just for you. People don't have sex just for its own sake if it's not pleasurable.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/15 10:54 AM
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Whatever you do, don't entertain anything she has to say. She won't respect you if she thinks she can influence anything between the two of you. Keep doing what you're doing or soon you'll come home to her being rammed from both ends. She's just trying to make sure in your grief you haven't become weak.
/r/MarriedRedPill08/03/15 02:19 AM
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I've got pretty much the love you describe. It's everything you imagine it to be and more. There are people out there still who don't care about playing the games or wearing the mask. You'll find yours. You just have to lose the mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:34 PM
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Your first paragraph rings very true to me. I dropped out of college and am not pursuing a career that's intellectually stimulating, but since high school I've been drawn to Internet debates. I frequent places where I'm confident I can find people with views I can easily challenge, mainly PPD and creationist pages. I do enjoy appearing the more level headed one in debate. Despite my drive to "win" I do continually strive for intellectual honesty and learning new things. I actually entered the In…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 04:49 AM
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There's this revolutionary concept that relationships don't need to be adversarial power struggles. Sex can be something both people want. It's a really weird view to have that sex is something you need to trick people into doing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 04:36 AM
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Tell me you did not just cite The Onion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 01:43 AM
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The KKK is very much alive and recruiting, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 11:19 PM
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The incorrect spelling was a part of the quote. He should have put [sic].
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 08:43 PM
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Because I'll come after you if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 11:21 PM
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Being accountable to your victims is far more important than being accountable to a personal deity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 11:20 PM
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Quite the opposite. Anyone who's not a theist, which is "gnostic by faith," is an atheist. People who identify solely as agnostics are indeed atheists, because they do not make any claims to know or believe God exists. Atheist and agnostic are often used interchangeably, but technically they answer two different questions. (A)theism refers to the question of whether or not there is a god. (A)Gnosticism refers to the question of whether the answer is actually knowable. The vast majority of atheis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 11:18 PM
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What uhhh... What are you talking about?
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 10:35 PM
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Of course not. Ever heard of "pics or it didn't happen?" It's doubly true for memories. If you don't remember being raped, how can you be sure it ever happened? What does it matter if the results are exactly the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:34 PM
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Ssshhhh ssshhh you're ok. We're here for you. Don't cry.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 10:17 PM
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Oh sorry I thought you were that other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:16 PM
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Nah man. You got cuckolded because you chose your mate poorly. Your woman could have resisted if she wanted to. She just didn't want to. Ssshhhh. It's ok. Better luck next time.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 08:03 PM
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Through red-colored glasses, I'm sure it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:24 PM
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Low birth rates are good for an economy facing overpopulation and longer average lifespans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:02 PM
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So now that we actually have to pay women for the jobs they do, our economy is in decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:00 PM
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"Women are bad at art" is not objectively defensible. Just this year I've enjoyed the work of plenty of female authors, singers, songwriters, actresses, and yes, even painters. You're not obligated to enjoy the things I enjoy, but you can't cite the fact that you don't enjoy them as evidence that they don't contribute anything enjoyable. And what exactly does any of this have to do with women's suffrage? It is rather amusing that RPers are defending you like you've actually made an argument, tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:56 PM
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So now art is limited to paintings? You're weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:46 PM
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Well that's easy. You're just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:44 PM
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Art... Rational... I don't think you know what these words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:43 PM
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HHL has chosen literally the most subjective field to criticize women for. Is that because he can't criticize them from any objective standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:41 PM
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Wow! There's a lot going on in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:38 PM
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It's sad you believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:29 PM
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While it's true men are stronger emotionally and physically, it's a fact that women face more dangers in everyday life than men do. Simply walking out to your car at night is a risk for a woman. The way you feel in a bad part of town far from home is the way women feel when alone anywhere in public. They face greater risks and are less equipped to handle them. It's no one's fault, that's just how it is. So while men often vocationally and recreationally face dangers objectively more threatening …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:02 PM
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I really couldn't tell you. I don't know if I'd even be able to tell anyone. It's a massive blow to your masculinity. Lots of men simply kill themselves rather than face the reality of it. We can talk for hours about how being raped might affect me or you but we never really know until it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:03 PM
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Ironically, that's the most BP thing I've read from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:46 PM
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I dunno, man. If I got anally raped I think I'd be scarred for life too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:43 PM
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As children, all the time. In grown women not nearly as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:04 PM
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I don't see why that should bother me. Men who subjugate themselves for a small chance at sex will either learn their lesson or be exploited indefinitely. Such is the case in all forms of interpersonal manipulation. It's their own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:34 AM
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Indeed. Which is easily taken care of by not buying them a drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:50 AM
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Plus, they're out there with the expectation that they'll need to get some sucker to pay for their drinks rather than fund their night on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:36 AM
0

All relationships are a form of training. It's only a problem when you refuse to modify your behavior while insisting she change hers, or vice versa. As far as the selection of honest women goes, it was easy enough for me to find mine. Granted, she's not from the U.S. originally either, but her country also has its share of manipulators. Searching places other than bars and clubs can be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:36 AM
0

Do they attack men? I haven't seen that. They must have the right idea if they're not allowing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 01:55 AM
1

Literally exactly what I was thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:46 AM
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I'm not ignoring what he meant. I'm just responding to what he said. You don't seem to disagree that those specific examples of manipulative behavior are rarely given a pass to women or men. I really don't see women behaving more manipulatively than men. I do see them being encouraged to do it more, as it's more socially acceptable for the reasons you've stated. But there are far more salesmen than saleswomen. Maybe women are more manipulative. If so, it's still on you not to allow that kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:15 PM
1

The problem is, that's such a nebulous term. Mere speech can be dubbed a form of manipulation. I can only go on the behaviors listed, and those types of behaviors are excessively childish and rarely get a pass. Without his examples this thread is little more than an "aren't women the worst?" circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:37 PM
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A woman who isn't constantly cheating, manipulating and branch-swinging? I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:26 PM
1

Manipulative behavior, sure. The ones named by the OP, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:25 PM
1

Well, let's explore another aspect of this view. Let's assume it's true that the other man has no moral responsibility for sleeping with a married woman. It's all the woman's responsibility. That being the case, does another man need to be involved at all for it to be considered cheating? Is a mere expression of intent, such as entry on a cheating site or going alone to a bar, enough to constitute infidelity? What if the roles are reversed, and it's the husband wandering?
/r/TheRedPill27/12/14 06:02 PM
1

If I didn't ask, I must not care, in which case the number is not important. If she rounded down aggressively, well... That'll be a fight, maybe I'd leave her simply because of the hypocrisy of getting so butthurt when I hide tiny things from her and she's been hiding >5 sexual partners for ten years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:50 PM
4

You're telling me you believe two ridiculous things. First, that anyone would deny the fact women get more of a pass for physically striking men. How removed from reality must you think BP men are? I didn't even have to click your link to imagine what it was. No one denies that women get a pass for physical violence. I don't think it's right, but that's a topic for another, more meritorious discussion. Secondly, you seem to truly believe that women get a pass for the childish behavior described …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:43 PM
2

Agnostics are not theists. As non theists, they are atheists unless they specifically identify as agnostic theists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:22 PM
3

If it works for her it works for her. I don't care what happens between two consenting adults. I wonder if she fancies every woman to be like herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:21 PM
2

What uhh... What are you talking about? I'm seeing virtually nothing but atheists here, save for the odd pagan or Mormon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:15 PM
1

Agnostic Atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:12 PM
9

It's the only reasonable explanation, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:06 PM
2

Women do not generally get a pass for that behavior. Fourteen year olds, maybe. But not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:05 PM
3

I really don't see women getting a pass for that. Not from me, certainly. Do you give them a pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:04 PM
2

It's also bad for a woman to do these things. These are childish behaviors you shouldn't be entertaining. You shouldn't be trying to do them yourself, you should make it clear to your woman those behaviors aren't acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:02 PM
8

Of course. Actually I know around five or six "Unicorns" and I'm marrying one of them. IMO AWALT is... Misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 04:55 PM
2

Right. The goal isn't perfection, it's competition. Once you outperform the competition there is no pressure to evolve. That's how apex predators like sharks have managed to remain virtually unchanged for millions of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 06:14 PM
1

What does her genetics matter if it's just one night I'm after?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 01:49 AM
12

No one's arguing that men aren't necessary in the world. The OP is arguing that a woman doesn't necessarily need a man in her life when she can get the same intimacy from her network of friends and family. She's not getting intimacy from the carpenter who made her bed, she's getting it from her mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:51 AM
0

I think self-defense is pretty universally agreed-upon as the one excuse for violence. What's the difference between a stranger and your SO, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:32 AM
1

There's no more reason for a woman to hit a man than a man to hit a woman. Legally, though, one carries far greater consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:29 AM
3

I think you'd find yourself bored with a woman who worships the ground you walk on without presenting any challenge or conflict. You can't have a meaningful relationship with a sex doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 11:22 AM
1

I don't think you and I disagree too much. We'll probably disagree on the number of "true" outliers but you don't sell TRP or AWALT in the ways I'm not ok with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:32 PM
2

Is that any better than making the mistake of believing she is that way only to find she isn't? AWALT annoys me because I know for a fact that MY woman is not like that, and I'm not alone. I'm under no illusions that I or my woman are somehow special. And yet, here we are, not fitting the AWALT narrative. What am I to conclude? For someone who has trouble getting women, I can see how AWALT can be a helpful attitude to have. A salesman must also approach everyone as though they already want to bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:13 PM
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This. People misunderstand evolution when they think every trait has a purpose. Traits are tweaked until they get the job done, not until they're perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:51 PM
2

It's just that the words used subtly suggest that indeed all women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:44 PM
2

There's a huge difference between the way you see AWALT used by apologists and the way you see it used in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:36 PM
2

Exactly. There's no reason to improve yourself when you can just find someone with lower expectations. Work smart, not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 02:41 PM
1

I agree that marriage vows are not to be taken lightly and alimony laws are somewhat outdated and sometimes granted too liberally. This is a matter to take up with your lawmakers, not the female population. Women will think a lot longer and harder about a divorce once it stops benefiting them more than their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 02:22 PM
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I choose not to participate in debates that become uncivil. It's a personal preference. I'm sorry if that bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:21 PM
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It reminds me of the story of the two blind men and the elephant. One man feels the tail and says the elephant is like a rope. The other feels the leg and argues no, the elephant is like a tree. Back and forth they argue, and they're both right and wrong at the same time. That's what this sub feels like sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:14 PM
0

That's fine. I've stated my opinion, this detail is not crucial to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:10 PM
3

All caps is considered yelling. If anyone was showing emotion, it was him. I don't like engaging people who are yelling either. It tends not to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:08 PM
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Well, if you're only meeting women at bars you're going to believe all women must be bar skanks. I think this may partially account for the outrageous ways many RPers describe women. They take every bad quality they've ever witnessed in a woman--neuroticism from Sally, stubborness from Mary, infidelity from Suzie--and project all of it onto every woman they meet and call it AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:56 PM
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It is unclear how the confrontation went, whether he just broke up with her or they did have a long conversation confirming her past first. In any case, at best these two have suffered the results of poor communication, him never asking about her past and her never mentioning it. At worst it is her fault, if indeed he did ask and she lied before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 07:40 PM
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Frankly that's an important detail that the story is missing. The story of Othello, or even MAAN, comes to mind, in that this man broke off a relationship based on something he had heard about his SO without first confirming it with her. With that said, it's completely his prerogative to break up with her if he is unhappy with her past. It seems petty to me, but the heart wants what it wants. If she was prepared to marry him, she shouldn't have been hiding things as significant as past relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 04:18 PM
2

And here I was, ready to give a serious answer based on the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:39 PM
0

Of course it works. When someone uses it successfully, it's proof that it works, and when it doesn't work, it just wasn't implemented properly. It's not falsifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:37 PM
1

It's not even the fact that she's going with some guy. It could be a solo trip and I'd still break up with her. It's the fact that she's ok with going on this huge adventure without me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 05:28 PM
2

Interested in pursuing someone after they're told they're taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:26 PM
2

Are the majority of RPers like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:58 PM
2

Anyone can hit on anyone else. It's just not worth the bother if the girl says she's taken. 50% of the time it's the truth, 30% it means fuck off, 20% it means try harder. I don't like to pursue women who the first thing they say to me is a lie. You can, it's just rarely worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 05:15 PM
1

Natural here. I don't need to hit on women who say they're taken to consistently pick up girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:01 AM
1

It's exactly the same way you respect a man. For accomplishments, wisdom, and the courtesy they show you. You show them respect through your courtesy as well. I don't see how an RPer can recognize any of this in a woman given the way they talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:51 PM
1

By "positive" I don't mean solely "what the man wants in a woman." I mean a woman who has demonstrated herself to be worth more than the functions of her genitalia. A woman he respects, admires, and generally recognizes as a good person. This is the kind of woman I expect to be absent in an RP male's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 08:19 PM
1

Thanks! That's what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 07:42 PM
1

Oh, really? What would you call the women in our lives setting the example for how we expect a good wife to behave? Perhaps my terminology was incorrect but it's still difficult to believe any red piller has had many positive female influences. It'd be a source of great cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:34 AM
0

I find it hard to imagine there were any good female role models in RPers childhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:23 PM
2

See, that's normal. It's crazy how people ITT are assuming you're teasing and stringing them along or using them for free stuff/emotional support. They must not know what a friend is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 01:55 PM
4

And under the guise of self-improvement and self-focus RPers still tailor their every move to women. Their lives still revolve around women. They've just learned to employ strategies that allow them to get more out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 08:05 PM
1

The only thing that matters in life is being tall. It's a cruel, cruel world out there. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:18 PM
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There's nothing wrong with self-improvement. If that's what the sub was about I wouldn't have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:07 PM
3

Hanging out in itself doesn't mean anything. It's how you behave while you're hanging out with them that would warrant judgment from people. Are you flirty with them? Does everyone pay for themselves when you all go out?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 02:40 PM
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I think they may once have believed that being a nice guy would automatically get them laid, and when that didn't happen, they adopted the exact opposite belief. It all stems from feeling entitled to women and figuring out the right behaviors or "strategies" to attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 02:36 PM
2

Fly us out!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 04:13 PM
2

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 11:44 PM
3

It's a party!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 11:42 PM
3

Perfect! You all can try to get my wife to cheat on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/14 11:37 PM
1

Don't be a slob. Get a job. Don't think with your knob. That's about all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 10:28 PM
1

Is there something wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 12:51 AM
1

I hear things are pretty cool in Bulgaria. Mardi Gras style parties every weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 12:16 AM
1

Yes. The only arguments I've encountered against it are religious, and that has no place in law.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/14 12:13 AM
1

Read the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 01:54 AM
2

Looks like you just realized you've been arguing with me in two separate lines of one thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 01:53 AM
1

You have no response for my objections. Only dismissal. Ironic, tiresome, tedious. We're done here, aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 12:58 AM
1

Whatever, dude. I hope one day you'll understand what everyone's telling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 12:53 AM
2

So... No? Thought not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 12:50 AM
1

It's okay to generalize people, as a whole, based on science. It's not okay to base them individually based on cult dogma. I can tell you teenagers are generally impulsive and irresponsible. I can't tell you that Rachel, because she is a teenager, will definitely not do her homework. Do you understand the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 12:22 AM
2

I really don't know what you're trying to say. I doubt you do either. One moment you're saying teens ought to be treated as adults, the next you're saying unruly women should be treated as teens. So they should be treated as adults? Why even mention teens then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 12:16 AM
1

It's not the actions of a few I'm basing these generalizations off of. It's brain scans. Biology. I understand the comparison you're trying to make, but it's not valid. It's scientifically proven that teenagers are less developed than adults. The same is not proven of women. You're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:45 PM
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Teens are legally, biologically, and by definition less than adults. Unless you can argue that women are the same, your words are pure fluff. Understand that you're wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:39 PM
3

Not everything a teenager says or does is invalid just by virtue of them being a teenager. That doesn't change the fact that they are biologically stunted human beings. Again, I ask: why would TRP compare women to teenagers if not to belittle them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:24 PM
1

It's two women. Two's a coincidence. Three's a rule. If it happens a third time, then you're either bad at picking them or all women are whores. You need to get some more experience before you generalize your two case studies on to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:17 PM
2

If TRP didn't also have disdain for teenagers they wouldn't be comparing women to them. What exactly would be the point of calling women teenagers if not to disparage them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:02 PM
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A teenager's brain isn't as developed as an adult's. It's biology. It's hard to imagine you're not trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 11:00 PM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 10:48 PM
1

I don't mean to call you out personally, but maybe you can explain something to me that's been the source of dissonance in my mind for some time. I see the alleged dichotomy of AF/BB a lot at TRP. My question is, what's to stop an alpha from making just as much money as a BB? What's to stop said alpha from settling down with a woman, providing both the AF and the BB? Is there no such thing as alpha bux?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 10:36 PM
1

Fuck that, you only get one life. Why spend it with someone you don't like? Unless you have kids, you should always be your own top priority. People make mistakes. Some of them are marriages. Divorce laws need to be amended so as not to fuck one partner over more than the other. Then I think we would see a more even percentage of divorces being instigated by men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 10:27 PM
1

Define them for me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 10:06 PM
1

Which terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 10:21 AM
1

I stated long ago that we cannot have a productive discussion if your idea of a good marriage does not include a healthy, genuine relationship between two adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 06:43 PM
2

No. The only thing that matters in life is being tall. Being under 7'4" makes you a creepy, stunted, worthless little manlet and anything you manage to achieve is a pathetic attempt to compensate for your severe deformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 05:08 PM
4

It's about not taking yourself or others too seriously, embracing your youthful spirit and having fun without worrying what people are going to think of you. Other than being a fun, bouncy song, it's personal for the artist. Swift has received criticism for dating around too much and this is a response to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 04:51 PM
1

If your goal is to bed someone, sure. That's not what we were talking about. Some would argue it is a waste of time and resources to marry someone who's not right for you. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume most people want to marry a good match for themselves. RP tactics are not useful in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 10:01 PM
1

Whether it got him the girl is not important. No one is contending that you can win someone over by employing insincere tactics. The point I'm making is in response to what you wrote in the beginning. You quoted someone discouraging people basing relationships on TRP tactics because they wouldn't be genuine. As a rebuttal you posted the story of the man who lost his wife once he stopped using TRP tactics. While you seemed to see this as a refutation to the poster's reasoning, it actually reinfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 04:57 PM
1

No. I don't even know what BP ideals would be, TBP is just a sub dedicated to singling out the most outrageous posts from TRP. I never even outlined what I think constitutes a healthy relationship. I did, however, make the obvious point that it does not make for a healthy relationship when you're pretending to be something you're not. This continues to escape you. To play into your analogy, if you take some pork and carve it up to look like chicken, people who like chicken will come buy it. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 11:16 AM
1

If I'm wrong to assume he wanted a healthy relationship with the woman he married, I'll concede the point. If you don't see a problem with that I doubt we can have a productive discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 12:43 AM
1

Not really. Your analogy rests on the premise that what he was doing was what was best for a healthy relationship, as milk is for cereal. As was demonstrated by what actually happened, as well as common sense, it wasn't. I'm growing weary of explaining this to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 09:42 PM
1

What? No. Both sexes face challenges. That's just how it is. I haven't commented on what ought to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 02:41 AM
1

I got the idea from the fact that he refused to acknowledge the obvious point. Point being that he got with a girl by employing RP tactics, stopped using said tactics, promptly lost the girl, and wondered what the fuck was going on. To spell it out, he became someone he wasn't in order to attract someone, then had a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 02:22 AM
1

Yes it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 02:14 AM
1

Yeah man you're not going to improve yourself at all if you don't give proper responses. What part of my response didn't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 09:49 PM
1

That's a deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 07:53 PM
1

This is an extremely reductionist view. Women are constantly told they're too fat, too pale, too black, too ginger, too old-looking, too hairy, too dry-skinned. A woman's SMV is made almost completely by her appearance. And her personal self-worth is made almost completely by her SMV. TRP agrees with this. The only reasons things like the Dove campaign are happening is because these societal values have been doing actual damage to women, especially young girls. Women are pressured to look good a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 07:52 PM
2

Crazy that a relationship built on an act would fall apart so quickly once the act was dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 04:24 PM
1

Well, I'm banned from blue pill because I used the word "cunt." Red pill still hasn't banned me even after I've trolled there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 04:21 PM
1

It sucks that you have to actually work to improve yourself, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 04:18 PM
1

I wasn't really aware of the red pill until these past few weeks, but I can definitely recognize some of their "tactics" in my past behavior in relationships. I've learned these behaviors through trial and error, never really internalizing a strict philosophy. I'm a little ashamed at how bad it sounds when people actually advocate doing things like dread game, aloofness, and just being condescending and dismissive with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 12:38 PM
2

There's no room for alternate views here.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/14 01:15 PM
1

Women are basically dogs, we know this. But you can't expect the hamsters to accept it. Cesar Milan: Dog Whisperer displays techniques as effective in dealing with unruly dogs as in dealing with unsubmissive women. Establish your dominance and they will serve you faithfully until death; show weakness and they'll piss all over everything you love. Women are literally dogs.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 10:26 PM
-1

Welp. This sounds just like me and the fiance. I'm not coming here anymore.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 07:42 PM
0

No one wants a virgin either, just like no one wants an electrician with no schooling or experience.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/14 01:36 PM
1

I wouldn't bother with it. If you do see results, though, be sure to let us know.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 06:19 PM
1

Unless you have low t, testosterone supplements aren't going to do much for you.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 06:12 PM
1

I've been thinking for a week how to say basically this. I'm glad someone else around here also looks down on dread game.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/14 06:06 PM
1

Where is cheating being promoted?
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 11:13 AM
5

And above all, it's about honesty. I don't exactly follow the logic of "I'm afraid to be loved!" as her rationalization, but I do applaud her for acknowledging and confessing what was happening. Whatever the problem was, it wasn't going to be fixed without honesty. She's not proud of what she did. She's not condoning it. She's just approaching it from a clinical perspective and sharing how it ought to be mitigated. Everyone here is just having a knee-jerk reaction to the word "cheat" in a story …
/r/TheRedPill11/10/14 11:12 AM
5

If she's the kind of person who naturally flirts with others or engages in other worrisome behavior while in an LTR, and doesn't stop even when asked to, why is she someone you want to keep around? You can save yourself a lifetime of trouble by voicing your concerns with people rather than playing games with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 09:29 PM
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The thing is, women do withhold emotional investment too. Just because a study suggested that men generally value physical intimacy over emotional intimacy and women the opposite, doesn't mean women don't also withhold emotional investment and men physical. It happens. I've been in relationships like that. It's just as effective and just as toxic. How is it not dread game when that happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 09:15 PM
1

Unless, you know, the two of you get along well enough. We're all just human. In fact, studies show that relationships where the woman is smarter than the man are actually more stable than when it's the other way around. Red pill theory is overrated.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/14 04:18 PM
1

I don't know enough about his wife to comment on her innocence. Neither do you. I can only comment on the morality of his actions. In this thread, people are patting him on the back, congratulating him for a job well done when all he's actually done is act obnoxiously and then (wow!) have sex with his wife. Forgive me for my disdain. Also, I wouldn't quite agree that men are manipulated more often, at least by women. In any case it's irrelevant on the individual level; you can't just steal from …
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 02:13 AM
1

It doesn't matter how common manipulation is, it's simply a shitty thing to do, and if manipulation is the primary means by which you get what you want, guess what? You're a shitty person. If you find yourself being manipulated by the women in your life, those women are shitty people and you deserve better. Manipulating them back isn't a solution, it just perpetuates people being shitty to each other. I understand that a social life completely devoid of any level of manipulation is an absurd, im…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/14 01:37 AM
1

I don't know what you're trying to say. I agree that it's stupid to feel threatened by someone you'd consider to be a beta. Why does it follow that after their discussion she would be moved to drop him?
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 07:05 PM
2

Her: Who is it?? Me: (smirking) You know who it is.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 05:27 PM
1

That really isn't true. And even if it were, that doesn't make it acceptable. Manipulators are shitty people.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 05:22 PM
1

Smirking and snarling and accusing your wife of lying out of the blue is obnoxious. Convincing yourself that raising your children alone is better than doing it with a new wife is silly. Dating may not be a priority post-divorce, but to assume any new wife you got would be a soulless, dead-weight gold digger says more about you than anything else. She may not have had a backup husband at the time he asked, but she probably does now.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 05:17 PM
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Snarled. Lol. I'd have sent you to the doghouse.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 05:10 PM
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Ah, you mean maintaining a plate as a plate for an extended period of time. Honesty is key here, as long as you both understand the deal. There's no reason two people having sex can't keep having sex.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/14 03:03 AM
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TRP philosophy pertains mainly to sexual strategy. If you don't have trouble getting laid, this subreddit is not for you. For advice on how to carry on a healthy long-term relationship, there is no better teacher than experience. If you want advice now, though, you could head over to /r/relationships or any of the other "mainstream" advice subs. TRP will only teach you to control her with fear and uncertainty and convince you she likes it.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/14 02:37 AM
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That's the point when you drop the act and treat her like a human being. Not a dog that must be trained, not a goddess that must be worshiped, a human being who deserves respect. I promise she won't think less of you for treating her as a peer. If you don't have the courage to let go of the power, you never truly had the power in the first place.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/14 04:18 PM
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Not to mention that it's not even remotely true. Sacred virginity is primarily an Abrahamic concept.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/14 04:11 PM
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She's speaking only for herself, but basically she's creating a justification for cheating. Women lie more to themselves about cheating by convincing themselves it wasn't wrong. Men will lie outwardly about cheating, denying that it ever happened.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/14 01:53 PM
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Seriously. My wife loves me unconditionally and openly admits that she would not only die, but kill for me. I know it's unconditional because I've tested the fuck out of our relationship and she's never faltered. I'm not rich, probably never will be, have an average sized cock and average looks. She loves me for who I am. Sorry bout it.
/r/TheRedPill22/08/14 01:42 PM
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Here's your mistake: you didn't make things clear to her that you don't see this as a long-term thing. Blame it on the setting of the dates, her age, your frequency of texting, whatever. Any factors making you seem like you're someone she can settle down with for the long-term could be mitigated by simply telling her the truth. If you're afraid to do that, you deserve whatever happens to you.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/14 09:26 PM
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