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explain how it's dumb when you will see successful intelligent women with successful and intelligent men even when the man is not particularly attractive but you rarely see successful intelligent men with anything but a highly attractive woman even if she has nothing else to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:23 PM
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it's the money with some women but it's generally deeper with most. A rich man who is stupid, say an athlete, pop star, crypto bro, etc is likely not going to be able to converse with an intelligent woman to a degree that keeps her interested and no most women are not goldiggers, it's that most men are attracted to high maintainance women who are the goldiggers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 02:26 AM
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an educated woman has nothing to say to an uneducated man unless he's a rare self-educated type (autodidact), educated men are more willing (although still not common) to be fine with having a hot but stupid partner and ftr there is no such thing as a golddigger, men chose to have relationships with women who use them for their money just as they use them for their beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:58 AM
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nope, science has shown that the eggs don't mutate since women are born with them, sperm mutates because it's constantly being reproduced. Earlier science thought it was the womans fault for genetic abnormalities at later age pregnancies but it turns out it's because they have been inseminated by sperm of a man their age of older This is why fertility clinics don't take donations from men past 35 and prefer it from men in their 20s "Advanced paternal age increases random DNA errors and triggers …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:35 AM
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we are not talking about fertility here but the CHILDS well being, if you only care about reproducing over having a healthy child then yes, men can do that for longer then women can
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:06 AM
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the personal risks to women get higher with age but the risk to the child itself gets worse with a mans age according to science ftr my dad was in his late 30's when I was born and it's likely my early onset autoimmune disorders are caused by geriatric mutations from his sperm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:04 AM
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young women do not prefer older men (past 4 years or so) unless that man is wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:50 AM
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fertility is not the same as QUALITY, men have bad quality sperm as they age, women have fertility issues as they age
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:49 AM
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women's eggs don't mutate with age, pregnancy is just less common as a woman ages, this is because a woman is born with all her eggs, whereas men constantly create sperm= cellular mutations For women aging= quantity of egg issue For men= quality of sperm issue
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:45 AM
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you can (usually) still get a woman pregnant as an older man, but is it ethical to do so when your sperm is full of harmful mutations that can hurt potential offsprinf and you are just generally too old to be a good father to a newborn?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:42 AM
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compatibility is not built on compromising and hard work, compatibility is just liking someone as they are and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:59 AM
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yes you are right too many people are attracted to the external qualities a person possesses (looks, status, skills) which are irrelevant to internal harmony (compatibility) With women it's often they are drawn to alpha male results but don't always like the persona that comes with it For men they tend to like high maintenance women but then berate such women for how much work, time and resources they use to look the way they do Maturity is using introspection to ask what traits you truly want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:56 AM
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I don't think it's just lack of sex but any intimacy (touch, emotional connection, concern), it generally results from transactional relations revealing themselves after the initial goal (breeding) is accomplished
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:38 PM
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a genuine connection doesn't change when having children, it's the transactional ones that do (most relationships are transactional)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:35 PM
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Sorry, unless you're in the top 0.1% of men, a woman will always, always prioritize her kids. If by 0.1% of men you mean someone the woman has a legitimate bond with then I agree; your status and appearance cannot replace inner connection and genuine liking of your character That being said, most people do not marry a person for their character and connection, they marry to have a family and a certain lifestyle, that will result in centering the children over the spouse
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:33 PM
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yes a lot of women can be bad people too, they are manipulative (pick me's) who coddle their sons but there are less of them then there are manipulative/bad men on average Manipulative person= pretends to be nice/emotionally regulated, does a lot of things to impress, uses heavy flirtation (seduce), adapts their personality to get picked. Once they feel they have trapped (usually through marriage and pregnancy) a person they reveal their true self
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:26 PM
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wants to be with you for what though? Men will marry a woman to get access to sex, give him children and perform tasks that make his life better and he can do all this while not even loving that woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:35 AM
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women have their own tastes as do men, but most people tend to go for people who are within their attraction range (as in what each person finds attractive) but not necessarily ideal A woman being with a man who is below her physical standards is still a 7/10 chadlite There are tons of cases of really beautiful women who are/were with men who are not typically attractive, but I rarely ever see the reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:32 AM
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that is why she said it helps for short term not long term. Yes being attractive opens more doors but it doesn't result in lasting relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:55 PM
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you having options proves the point that men complaining about lack of options are just mad that they can't be picky too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:52 PM
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men are only less picky when they don't have options
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:50 PM
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both men and women select for attraction first if the option is available, in fact I would say most women are more open to being with a man who falls bellow her physical standards then men would do for a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:49 PM
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I have to agree, if I had to take a rough guess 60% of men are not worth most womens time, including the "Chads" redpill men like to talk about Guys got to sit down and think, would a woman want to live with you and be around you every day of her life? If most were being reflective, they would have to realize that they are a liability to women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:42 PM
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Incels have far lower standards than average men. I have seen countless comments online from incels, including videos where they show themselves, calling beautiful female celebs "mid" especially when said woman isn't wearing makeup 'bro its your personality bro' giving men like that false hope that they stand a chance with women like that. It's possible for an unattractive man to win a hot woman over with his personality though since it happens in real life, but that's the thing, you have to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:49 AM
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like I said, those men are just refusing to talk to women they don't find attractive I'll give you a prime example of this I recently witnessed at a mall food court; was sitting next to a few highschool girls, all thin and pretty, and this kid their age a table away, fat with acne and no attractive features, tells the hottest one he think she's beautiful and if he could have her number; she obviously rejected him, but that just goes to show the audacity of so many men no personality, no humor, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:05 AM
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(2) Men do not have unrealistic standards like women, there is a literal two-headed woman married to just… some normal guy, so your most men would never do this no matter how lonely they are, now maybe have sex with yes but rarely would they look to a "mid" woman to be a partner especially if not younger then them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:06 AM
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you are attracted to a type of woman which is why you are getting the same behavioral patterns from them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:53 PM
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women who put a lot of work into their looks tend to get a lot of attention from men, which is why they are very superficial themselves with which men they chose to notice Men do the exact same thing when they are attractive/reach a certain status in society ie it’s almost entirely based on looks for women That is how all men operate, no man is talking to a woman they are not attracted to whereas women are prone to like a man for his humor/personality even if they are not their physical type The…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:49 PM
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that could be why in some cases but I think there are generally more common reasons 1) they find a woman they want to keep 2) they want children 3) the hedonic treadmill= the thrill of short term relationships has worn off 4) they want a more stable life as they age
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:03 AM
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it doesn't work that way for men, it's not how their brain is wired For women we love primarily through oxytocin= pair bonding via loss of stress. Oxytocin gets released in both gender via sex, but less so for men Men primarily love through the hormone vasopressin= stress of losing someone leads them to pair bond with them Oxytocin reduces stress whereas vasopressin increases it (but in a positive sense for men because that stress is concentrated around wanting to protect and keep a woman), not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:52 AM
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most men are never going to tell a woman he is using her for sex just like most women will never tell a man she is using him for his resources/lifestyle A lot of people are manipulative and once you realize that you will stop being a victim to their attempts to use you So if you are using sex to get or keep a man you will get hurt by men, especially when you learn how hormones in the male brain works (they do not love through sex, they love a woman when they fear losing her, this is caused by th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:41 AM
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do you blame these women who think this way when they go online or on dating sites and getting countless men simping for them for simply being relatively attractive? It's not like they need to self-reflect on any deeper attractive traits when men will fall to their knees for a woman who goes to the gym, has cosmetic procedures and poses in skimpy clothing, it's like the easiest thing to do in comparison to working on yourself beyond the appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:28 AM
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you are presuming middle aged and fat women can't be attractive, especially to middle aged and fat men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:52 AM
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this is a silly mentality, a lot of people of both sexes are more practical and transactional in relationships, others are more sensitive If men, for instance, were simply all about love most wouldn't select for beauty and youth over character
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:15 AM
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I think the unconditional love you are speaking of (family and children) is more obligatory love. I do think some couples do love eachother unconditionally (they just prefer one another's company) because if that were not the case everyone would stop loving their spouse if they lost their wealth, got sick, infertility, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:01 AM
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middle aged men often marry middle aged women fat men often marry fat women it's not rocket science my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:56 AM
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Most relationships are transactional, few are based on deeper connections and likes For women transactional is= resources and status (ability to provide comfortable lifestyle) For men= beauty, household maintenance and usually fertility If you want a deeper connection you have to look beyond the lizard brained impulses and search through the mock, which means most women you interact with will not be compatible with you on the level you need them to be (same goes for women seeking men)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:53 AM
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I think it's more like how men are obsessed with male physique, even the absurdly overly muscular forms that most women find grotesque
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:07 AM
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sperm starts to go through negative mutations by the ages of 30-35
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:30 PM
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Women can have this too if they have low self-esteem or believe that securing a particular man will make them happy, that's why a lot of women will ignore redflags
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:29 AM
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most men don't have enough money to make that a thing, and the men who do have that kind of money tend to marry women who are goldiggers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:17 AM
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women do not leave for money, they leave when they realize they don't have to spend the rest of their life being miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:15 AM
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it should be a thing at the very least like IVF is for single women, but it's basically unheard of, because most men don't want to actively be responsible for raising a child and expect their partner to do the bulk of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:03 AM
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men are not more prone to love, they are more prone to lust and neediness for a caregiver For women, most men are a liability their wellbeing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:45 PM
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older women are divorcing their husbands more then ever which means they are not scared of "dying alone" https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/home-will-never-be-the-same-again/202108/why-the-divorce-rate-for-older-couples-continues-to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:44 PM
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please don't get with an old guy, my mom was in her late 20's and had me with a man in his late 30's and I have all sorts of health issues, a few almost killed me as a child old sperm= bad mutations
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:42 PM
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it's sad that they even allow that old with all the mutations that occur in their 30's
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:40 PM
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mens sperm quality decreases with age (usually around 35), you can still get a woman pregnant but it's with mutated sperm that often creates health issues in their children "Children of older fathers have more de novo mutations (new mutations not present in either parent). A 40-year-old father passes on roughly 65 mutations, compared to 25 from a 20-year-old" ftr my dad was in his late 30's when I was born and I've dealt with debilitating health issues my entire life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:39 PM
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the invested fathers are more effeminate/maternal in nature rather then typically masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:33 PM
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they can do it alone, they can hire a surrogate just as many single women do IVF to have a baby which goes to show that most of these men have no interest in raising a child, just in having one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:31 PM
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yes they're real but they are not the default for Western mothers who tend to be more egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:29 PM
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women who do this are trophy wives/pick mes, they also teach their daughters that their sole value is in their appearance and appeasing men A lot of this is cultural too, many cultures have very transactional views on gender and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:36 PM
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but I was never talking about women in general but intelligent women who value communication over transactions (like money and status) in relationships Of course a lot of women are shallow and transactional, so are a lot of men, but there are also those who value bonds/connections above everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:04 PM
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it does matter in long term successful relationships because attraction only "attracts" it does not keep someone interested
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:41 PM
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in some cases, but I can't see an intelligent woman being attracted to a low IQ man who got his money through something like gambling/sports/inheritance, etc in the same way as a man who got his wealth through using his intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:02 AM
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it's the competence and responsibility that women find attractive not the money itself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:47 AM
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impoverished women who come from cultures where they are expected to take care of their families through marriages will chose a practical marriage over one based on mutual affection, that is exactly how passport marriages work (it's transactional)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:45 AM
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If just on outer appearance, yes, people "peak" in their youth, no kidding And no men do not "peak" later in life if they have money, it's still your money that attracts not how you look, nor your vitality or even your personality and ability to tolerate living with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:43 AM
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you are not attracted to women who aren't high maintenance then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:11 AM
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you know you don't have to date high maintenance materialistic women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:45 AM
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everyone finds younger people more visually attractive (when they are already attractive) because that is the height of fertility and vitality for both genders The difference is that emotionally mature people prefer connection over just lust which is why most long term/life long relationships have partners around the same age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 02:02 PM
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women are, that's why men are having a loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:58 PM
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women do, then men call them nags
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:25 AM
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immigration is used by the capitalist class to drive down wages, same with outsourcing labor
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:22 AM
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we are overpopulated though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:21 AM
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most successful women generally don't care if a man earns less then them what they care about is intellectual compatibility. For instance, a highly intelligent woman can have a mid-level position making less then an independent tradesman but the likely hood that they could talk about anything substantial is very low
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:19 AM
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feminism is about choice not collectively hating men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:45 AM
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sure that too, I put consolation prize because it's something you get even if you don't win at the game the patriarchy puts in place
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:28 AM
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when did I state men can live with women? Is it because it's no longer an obligation for women to live with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:28 AM
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when a woman buys a home she is paying for the home and its services, it's not as if she is saying men who created them homes and services are not entitled to pay, she is just not giving them access to her body, heart and time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:13 AM
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exactly, women historically have been a consolation prize for men to contribute to the patriarchy, but now that women are allowed to be independent they can chose who they can "mate" with, if they even want children or if they want to stay by a mans side This makes a lot of men angry since they view women as an object they should have automatic access to which is why they neg women into choosing men they would rather not be with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:09 AM
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like I previously stated, attractive older men go for attractive women, they are not going for average 25 year olds for partners, only the attractive ones and they are the only ones who can even get them in their age bracket (outside of sugar daddy relationships) So outside of that really small percent of attractive older and success man (many of which are already married or date within their age range) most young women are left with a large pool of older mid men with nothing much to offer them …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:05 AM
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we are not the ones having a loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:49 AM
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it's predatory because you are purposely going after a partner much younger then you, not because you like them, but because of their age/power dynamics involved like that just sounds like not a match. my question would be why they got together in the first place? Like most age gaps, she thought he would be more stable, and he wanted a kid and sure, some people have close friends of different ages, but most people don't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:20 PM
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and older average man also has to compete with younger average men who have a greater attraction to younger average women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:08 PM
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they have always been more successful on average, most women want to grow old with their husband not be his younger nurse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:07 PM
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well enjoy your loneliness epidemic men because most women do not want older men for husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:05 PM
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oh we got a NAMBLA supporter in here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:03 PM
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it's called pattern recognition
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:52 PM
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older men also want a relationships with the most attractive women who are younger, that's why men tend to be obsessed with gaining money and status so they can have an advantage over younger attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:51 PM
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yes here are some sources on large age gaps generally failing long term Younger spouse tends to be unsatisfied https://www.colorado.edu/today/2017/08/03/spousal-age-gap-affects-marriage-satisfaction-over-time "couples with a 20-year age gap are 95 percent more likely to divorce than a couple with only a one-year age difference at 3% likelihood. A 5-year age gap has an 18% increased risk of divorce, and that jumps to 39% for a 10-year age gap." https://www.mckinleyirvin.com/family-law-blog/2016/n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:47 PM
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not generally, a lot of women will cheat/leave men who are much older then them, and many men will get a younger woman who out ages their preference Just going from data alone, age gaps 10+ years have very low longterm success rates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:28 PM
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I think it's the conquest which motivates a lot of men, the whole getting picked dopamine hit especially if they deem the woman high value If you remove the dopamine aspect they could just hire an escort but that doesn't hit the rewards part of the brain
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:08 AM
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most 60 year olds do not look like that especially non-East Asians. Average white man in late 30's-40's is balding, full of wrinkles and complaining about joint and back pain
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:49 AM
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no one is saying younger women aren't generally more attractive, younger men are generally more attractive too, younger people are supposed to be the most fertile because that is when people evolved to breed However if your brain has evolved beyond basic primitive motives you will realize large age gap relationships are generally predatory and bad for the younger partner and any kids brought into it ftr my parents have a 10 year age gap and it shows, they hate eachother and I hated having an old…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:44 AM
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I disagree, a person who specifically needs to date a person who is significantly younger is always a selfish and entitled person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:36 AM
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men or women who specifically go after much younger people are all alike
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:32 AM
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yep, some men are aware that the women are after their money but so many still lie to themselves that they are as attractive, if not more, then a younger attractive man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:31 AM
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young women will sometimes find an older man attractive when he is still young (like a 20 something finding a mid to late 30's man hot) but as he ages he hits the wall too and that goes for even the most handsome men Older man can still however get sugar babies if they are rich enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:29 AM
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if a man leaves a woman because she is aging and becoming "less attractive" then why should a younger woman want to be with such men who will eventually discard her when she ages? This is one of the reasons I never liked older men approaching me, they think they are entitled to use a woman for her youth even though they themselves are neither young or in their prime health. Why do they think they are too good for women their own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:21 AM
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I'm glad that worked out for you but most people don't want to spend their life with the type of person who would put out that quickly and easily
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:20 PM
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you have a very distorted understanding about how relationships work
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:24 AM
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and what does that have to do with impulsively being intimidate right away?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:59 AM
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healthy life long relationships are not based on impulsive lust seeking behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:39 AM
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this is a values dispute, you see sexual attraction and emotional connection as being a separate issue whereas I do not Less sensitive people, especially common in men, is being able to use women just for sex without caring about them on a deeper level
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 01:43 AM
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you stated that dead bedrooms exist because of low libido and I'm telling you they exist because of low compatibility in other regards
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:48 PM
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what people "go for" is often not what they end up wanting in the end, that's why so many high status relationships fail (ex. Giselle leaving her "high status" husband Tom Brady for a lower status Jujutsu instructor) This is because (1)social pressure pushes people to "compete" (2)societal needs for resources to survive (3)lizard brain mating strategy over long term thinking (good looks and intelligence= good genes, but that doesn't necessarily make for a good partner) The only marriages that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:46 PM
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that depends on if you include relational compatibility with transaction
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:54 PM
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it's the other way around, most modern relationships are not transactional anymore unless status seeking is involved In the past, marriage was pressured onto people by society so people more often had to overlook personal feelings for pragmatism
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:51 PM
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Unspoken transactional relationships are normal for high status people (man has money and status, usually seeks young hot woman and funds her lifestyle) Transactional relationships amongst the general populous were also the norm but since women can work now a days there is less of them happening ftr I don't think there is any reason to outright say it's transactional, people just figure it out and play their role naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:48 PM
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people with high libidos that are not getting along with their partner either cheat or partake in porn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:35 PM
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when did I suggest older men have more power?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:41 PM
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dead bedrooms exist because one or both partners dislike the other regardless of their sexual drive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:39 PM
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it's not about dying, but the natural process of maturity and how aging effects the body
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:50 AM
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bonds= a mutual liking of one another's authentic self Despite what people think, human personalities don't really change over time; what happens in relationships is that people often hide their true self at the start of relationships (because they want to win/conquer a person) which leads to an eventual breakdown as the real self is revealed The true self is very hard to hide after living together and/or hard times/arguments arise
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:13 AM
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people who have bonds are more likely to have regular sex and show general affection because they actually like eachother
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:08 AM
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it's not an issue with transactional relationships but usually becomes an issue with closer relationships as the older partner ages and then there are usually lifestyle clashes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:37 PM
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Everyone's agreed that women aren't visually sexually aroused like men are, no this is absolute bs, women have visual preferences they are just more likely to care less about them for relationships then other attributes (on average) If you were to base the ideal of a status seeking young woman it would be an attractive celebrity or athlete that is wealthy and around their age because that is generally who we see attractive young women go for when given the opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:04 PM
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Most attractive young women are not in the social/wealth circles of the men they may desire to be with which often puts them at odds with privilege young and beautiful women who are in these circles Instagram seems to be a work around here, but I wonder how many high earning men see them as wife material vs fling unless they have other attributes to climb the social ladder (like degrees and other signs of high intelligence)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:46 PM
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the women who can monetize their looks to live off of are probably less then 1% of their age bracket, and the ones who want to marry rich men and do are likely just slightly higher then that Just look at what happens to most of these young beautiful women from places like Ukraine, most are working to survive and some get into the sex industry, same thing with young beautiful women in places like LA, Miami, Japan, etc (tons of street walkers) This idea that being a young beautiful woman= wealth a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:39 PM
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there are plenty of young men who would start a family, especially since most people who want to start having kids young are religious/trad they easy to find most of those people in church, school and social circles what you were referring to was specifically high resource looking women, and yes a lot of younger women will marry an older man who has a lot of resources, that is a transactional relationship because she would never be with an older man who is lacking such resources
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:28 PM
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it's not that we think men care only about looks but most men prioritize it as the primary factor which means they are narrowing their taste in women down to primarily highly shallow women who spend a lot of time and resources on their appearance with the unspoken exchange being they get a man who will pay for their lifestyle This is basically the redpill anger in a nutshell, they want these women to be 2 different types of people in one, the woman who is always perfectly kept but also modest, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:22 PM
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They purposely go after high maintenance women that demand a certain lifestyle because those women put more effort into their appearance and thus are "high status" so they have many options which drives male competition. It's not that men don't have higher standards it's that they prioritize their sexual fantasies and status of being seen with such women ahead of psychological factors like character which IMO is fine, but they shouldn't complain these women are using them when it's clearly trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:14 PM
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you stated a younger woman who wants to start a family will prefer an older man for his resources to do so, that is transactional and I never said you have to be the same age to have a bond, it's just that most people will form bonds with people around their same age because 1)they grew up in the same era so share cultural and verbal similarities 2)human brains actually change with age 3)life experiences and maturity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:49 PM
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getting married to start a family, not because you want to spend your whole life with a person, is transactional and ftr you can be attracted to someone and still have a transactional relationships, in fact I'd argue most transactional relationships involve at least one partner being considered very physically attractive to the other But none of that is about a deep connection and we know that most people will form close bonds with people around their own age
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:08 AM
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5 years or less is more or less the same age, but 10 years will always be an age gap, like my parents are exactly 10 years apart and it has had an effect on their relationship (ftr my mom cheated on him a lot too)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:56 PM
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idk most successful older men tend to be married to a woman around their age
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:53 PM
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sure it's a transactional relationship which is fine if that's what both parties want but let's not pretend the intentions on either end are to have a deep and lasting bond
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:51 PM
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there is a difference between meeting someone and like them and selectively choosing a person who is much younger then you Of course an age gap relationship can work if the intentions were not the age gap
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:50 PM
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my parents had kids for all the reasons you mentioned, they are selfish people and neither me or my brother wants anything to do with them The only reason you should ever be a parent is because you are a loving person who wants to shower a being with that love and joy, if you lack these skills you will traumatize your child and die alone as nature intended
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:05 AM
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That said, there is a lot of joy in motherhood and the love you have for your child is like nothing else I wish this were true but evidence shows that too many women should not be mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:03 AM
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I wonder how many of these marriages make it to death (I'm guessing very few)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:21 AM
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it depends on the woman, women who are short term thinkers tend to be more concerned with dominant genetics (looks, personality, status) whereas long term thinkers look for stability in character and abilities (can and will provide longterm) Short term thinkers are the typical single baby mama type who get knocked up by "Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:47 PM
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what's the trade off? Not having electricity every month? Feeding your child really cheap unhealthy food?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:26 PM
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so you lived in abject poverty and think that's a good idea to replicate? ftr both my parents worked full time and were still not middle class, not because of buying expensive stuff but because of the general cost of living in an area with infrastructure. This has been the case for most people except for a blip after WWII where government regulations were put in place to allow working class families to have a SAHM hence the whole babyboom
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 01:37 AM
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to be fair the vast majority of people will never be compatible with any particular person which is why it's better to filter out the ones who don't really like you ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:30 PM
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it's not many though, very few people have ever had the luxury to be SAHM
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:21 PM
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This does apply to some women but we are not a monolith, just like some men only want to get married to raise children or/and a caregiver some women just like the social status involved with being married Also "value drama over peace" is also a personality trait, if you are drawn to visually expressive women that same positive energy that drew you in can turn to dramatic negative energy so you have to like both sides of a person because you will get both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:17 PM
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if no man cared then why do they stay in relationships with women past the age of their physical peak?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:33 AM
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well of course younger people are more physically attractive on average but there is a difference between finding someone physically attractive vs relationally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:38 PM
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it's not just desperate men, it's any men who finds a woman who has the right look that appeals to their peepee
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:24 PM
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this is literally my parents, my dad is 10 years older then my mom and got with her because of her looks and youth but she is an awful person, very selfish, emotionally immature, critical, etc It's why I have zero empathy for shallow men who follow their ego and libido above all else
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:23 PM
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no this is untrue, look at the stats, most people who are in long term relationships do not have large age gaps so you are much more likely going to get along with people your own age at a closer level; there is even scientific evidence that points to how this relates to brain development
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:02 PM
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the best predicter of future behavior is past behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:55 PM
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to be fair a lot of high status men seek out women who are obviously transactional types (like models, too young, very seductive and materialistic) then expect them to legit love them for who they are on the inside, so they do it to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:07 AM
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this doesn't indicate non-transactional relations if you have resources/status a woman will give you all the sex you want (at least until marriage/kid) in order to keep you because social climbers know how the game works
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:45 AM
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exactly, especially with social media existing more women of good character are cautious of men who have low trust characteristics even if they are "Chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:27 AM
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The problem with "Chads" agenda is that they are reducing the number of loyal and attractive women available to marry in the future since (1)most attractive women also have a sexual history and (2)attractive women who are high trust will be less interested in marrying a low trust male (player) Hence why we have these redpilled "alphas" complaining that there are no "good women anymore"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:23 AM
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statistically it isn't as hard for single dads to date since most of them don't even have sole custody of their kids
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:16 AM
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that's why it's called baby trapping, even if the man is not in the womans life he has essentially conquered her "value" in the eyes of other men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:12 AM
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Long term couples who have regular sex do so because the woman, at least, likes her partner and wants to please them, which also increases her libido (I like therefore I find you desirable) Men, on the other hand, are much more likely to put personal opinions about a woman aside to satisfy themselves, which is why so many husbands are in the dark as to why their wife no longer wants to have sex with them It all just comes down to lack of compatibility of each others personality, behaviors and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:59 AM
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sure we can agree on that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:04 AM
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not everything about weight gain= obese. And not all weight= calories; you can gain weight via hormones, autoimmune disorder or medications like prednisone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:15 AM
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because it's relevant if you are thinking of being with a person for the rest of their/your life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:12 AM
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it depends what you mean by weight, realistically no one is going to stay thin and toned forever, hormonal shifts like pregnancy, menopause and aging will change how your body looks forever as will illness, injury and certain medications
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:36 AM
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exactly, anything external can fade away too, not saying you shouldn't be attracted to your partner, but modern day people take this way too far. The only thing that keeps people happily together is when they like being around eachother all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:34 AM
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yes correct
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:10 AM
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I don't think so, I think once you want to harm someone there is no love
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:28 PM
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you cannot love someone and cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:40 PM
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a lot of men will overlook a womans history and marry her if he finds her attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:39 PM
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it's so obvious the type of women who are high vs low maintenance/vanity and what they expect from a date. The women who spend a lot of time and money on their appearance have a lot more men to chose from and expect a lot from them, so offering these women a simple coffee date is not going to be alluring to them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:54 AM
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I think this is one of those sex vs longterm relationship priorities. I don't think men care if a woman is using them for their money/status/looks for a hookup (since it's usually mutually selfish) but they probably care if they are looking for a bond That being said A LOT of men with money are really stupid at separating women for longterm relationships, like they still want to think with their peepee and ego by going for materialistic high maintenance (often much younger) types then get mad at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:48 AM
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women in general do not need it but women who give a man a child do and should receive protections from that man because of the physical, mental and financial sacrifices she is making to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:02 AM
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wow "only" 1 in 10 aren't women here so lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:50 AM
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ANNNND now you know why feminism exists and why women are choosing the bear
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:18 AM
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exactly, she is an extroverted woman who lived her youth novelty chasing and regrets the outcome, this is not how it works for most women and especially not for introverts Not to mention that most women have experienced marriage and children but rarely does the marriage last into old age, their kids will also have their own life by then anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 11:04 PM
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no it isn't unless it's about money
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:53 PM
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most age gaps are 2-4 years not 10
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:52 PM
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being with a much older man is not a winning bet for a young woman unless her priority is money because most young women want to experience life in a different way then an middle aged man would especially if said man expects kids ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:51 PM
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it's more about lifestyle preferences and mental development averages. A 20-30 year old is generally not going to be into the sort of lifestyle regiments of a 40-50 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:43 PM
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it's not merely about health but mental outlook and development. My mom is 10 years younger then my dad so I picked up on how differently that gap affected their ability to communicate and be on the same wave length with lifestyles
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:41 PM
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yes it generally doesn't work long term. My dad is 10 years older then my mom and I personally got to witness how age alone affects relationships as the older spouse gets past 40+ and is less "fun" to the younger spouse From what I've heard, age gaps no more then 5 years up or down are usually the most successful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:39 PM
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I agree, society is not structured around having kids it's structured for producing laborers and consumers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:42 PM
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that's not a transaction though, that's just liking someone for who they are transactions are thing you are doing outside of a bond, such as your appearance, age, ability to have kids, wealth, status, health That's why so many people in transactional relationships get abandoned when they lose any of this or their partner finds someone with a better transaction to offer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:37 PM
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that's not what I stated, this is about what the priority of the relationship is, if it's primarily because you see the other as a good potential mother then you are not stating you are there for love, it's for the transaction
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:32 PM
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this is true for most cases and people, but there are still a number of people with high empathy who truly love their spouse and will be there for them when the surface level transaction are not there but it's rare
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:40 AM
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exactly, there are A LOT of kids either in the system or needing someone to save them from abusive caregivers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:27 AM
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you are the one who stated people are narcs for not wanting to create life and I'm just pointing out that your reasoning is flawed because the desire to breed is always based on selfishness whereas in many cases the desire to not breed is based entirely on selflessness
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:26 AM
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you are correct, most people get into relationships for external benefits (access to sex, resources, status, children, household labor, etc) and it's always been this way maybe 10% of married couples have an actual deep attachment (which correlates with stats on marital happiness and divorce rates), that means these couples are likely both compatible and score higher on sensitivity/emotional intelligence to even be able to bond beyond self-serving reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:23 AM
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people also didn't have birth control or safe access to abortions and still don't in 3rd world countries, where women usually don't even have rights ftr if you want a perfect example of this look at Loretta Lynn, she married at 15 mainly because of poverty, had a bunch of kids and when the birth control pill came out stated ""If I'd had the pill back when I was havin' babies, I'd have taken 'em like popcorn."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:17 AM
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suffering and death is guaranteed with life but there is no suffering or death without life That means purposely creating life will lead to suffering and death, thus it's the more selfish choice since life does not need to exist to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:11 AM
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the vast majority of men are awful (lustful, selfish, mean, entitled, etc) so by this logic most women should not select men to breed with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:00 AM
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this society already does not work for the majority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:58 AM
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there is nothing more selfish then wanting to create a being who will suffer and die, that being said I'm not against having kids but do not dare to claim it's the more selfless choice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:57 AM
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honestly the bad stuff that doesn't kill you (now a days) is almost as bad as dying in birth. I have heard some horrific things like having your abdominal muscles damaged causing chronic pain from the pressure endured from carrying (diastasis recti), episiotomies that cause women to poop from their vagina and makes sex permanently painful, teeth falling out, autoimmune disorders developing, labia ripping, permanent incontinence, etc and if you are lucky your man will stick around and support you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:55 AM
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most women with kids are already single mothers even if the father lives with them since most men are still low-involvement with raising their own kids which is exactly why most men want to be fathers (it's easy for them)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:44 AM
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there is nothing beautiful about pregnancy and childbirth, women do it out of love for having a kid or because they have no choice in the matter and that's just for a normal pregnancy and birth, some women go through life altering health issues
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:42 AM
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considering that it's mainly the wealthy who have a surplus birth rate (in the developed world) shows that it's not a good deal for most women to have kids since that means they will have to work while raising kids and a lot of the time they will end up as single mothers on top of that The risk for poverty is too high on top of all the stress factors associated with child rearing and birth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:37 AM
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men should be more transparent about their intentions then because if the motive is kids>relationship the women have a right to know what they are getting into
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:32 AM
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status seeking men in general see everything as a competition including who they marry and having kids because they are constantly trying to prove themselves to some capacity through external accomplishments
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:31 AM
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I'd say it's not just rushing marriage but adding sex and excitement into the mix before there is a bond, it causes a person to be filled up on dopamine and oxytocin which messes with partner selection
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:21 AM
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you're right, it's a compatibility issue. Most people select partners based on external attributes and try to mold them into being what they internally need which never works. If a woman doesn't want to deal with emotional labor then find a man who is less sensitive, and a man who wants that kind of sensitivity should find a more sensitive woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 07:19 AM
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you're right, these redpill "alpha" bros chose partners based on ego and sexual fantasies then lash out at women, collectively, as if we are all like their plastic exes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:28 AM
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the men who can chose are doing the same stupid things that a lot of women do, which is select a partner based on external traits (often from places like Instagram or night clubs) then get upset when the woman turns out to be hypergamous and disloyal but men never blame the men, only the women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:23 AM
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well the ones who do often make the same mistakes so it applies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:20 AM
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I think that's how socially enforced monogamy started but I think instinctive monogamy was born out of empathy which seeks to have deep connections with people aka being more selective That's why I believe very sensitive people are best suited for pair bonding but lesser sensitive people are suited for novelty seeking/short term mating
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:48 AM
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I've seen the type of women popular with men, both online and in real life, they are all putting a lot of synthetic work into their appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:03 AM
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but they don't "secure" anyone since they will "age out" of the desirable bracket too unless they marry a much older man which is gross to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:35 AM
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most women regret being a single mother because they trusted a man to take care of them for life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:33 AM
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if women "expire" there is no reason to ever invest in a man who view us as disposable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:31 AM
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The video you posted is an example of a man choosing a high maintenance woman which means he has to pay for her lifestyle and company. I don't know any normal woman who expects "princess treatment" but they will expect men to help out with necessary things like carrying groceries and such lesson here, if you want a baddie you pay for them, if you want a partner they won't be a baddie
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:18 PM
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yes I think some people are more sensitive and need to bond while others prefer the novelty of being with various people or with people to fulfill specific goals like having kids For the sensitive people it's most likely related to levels of empathy/mirror neurons and chemicals like oxytocin (the bond related hormone) vs the novelty seeking people who are driven by dopamine (feel good hormone) and serotonin (hormone for social status/dominance)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:04 PM
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most dead bedrooms are due to women realizing they don't really like their husbands all that much
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:57 PM
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women as a whole lack empathy for male insecurity and are not willing to acknowledge that women body shame men on a way more damaging scale than men body shame women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:34 AM
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why would it? The size of a penis plays a major role in sex in order for a woman to feel pleasure, that's just biology. A man with a micro penis or/and a pencil penis is not going to be able to please a woman via penetrative sex which is usually important to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:26 AM
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so we should just have men battle royale with each other? I'm fine with that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:19 AM
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what other animals are known to prevent other males from obtaining resources by creating elaborate systems/rules that prevent this...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:25 PM
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The patriarchy hijacks the evolutionary bases for mate competition by preventing other men from obtaining resources needed to provide for a family, which in turn hijacks womens evolutionary need for stable resources, which is the bases for hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:22 AM
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You guys are starting to get why the patriarchy doesn't benefit most men, it exists to give leverage to a small percentage of men at the cost of the rest The patriarchy used to force women into marrying as a means of placating the majority of men, but now that leverage has been removed you are seeing how shitty this wage slave system actually is; the only problem is that most men blame women for a problem that men created and maintain in order to be in a "high status" position
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:40 PM
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ftr a lot of men can be very high agency when it comes to work but not when it comes to childcare, what you need to look out for is misogyny, a man who thinks taking care of babies/kids is the job of the mother
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:24 PM
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don't get married then, a wife is not a sex worker that exists to attend to your constant hedonistic needs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:20 PM
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you're right, it's not all men but most men want kids but they don't want to actually be active fathers. Parenting to most men is playing with their kids for a few minutes or hours a week, maybe driving them to or from somewhere This is why they tend to be enthusiastic about being dads, since they don't see it as a burden like it is for women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:15 PM
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exactly, sugar babies expect a man to pay for their lifestyle which often includes hiring a maid to do their chores. There's a reason men who want a trophy wife need to make a lot of money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:44 PM
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a lot of men just see their partner as a bang maid so they don't care about substance
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:41 PM
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I'm also confused how men can expect a woman to be materialistic/obsessed with their appearance to be hot while also expecting her to be peaceful, these are not the same type of people It would be like a woman saying she wants a high earning ambitious man who puts effort into their looks but is also laidback, emotionally available and not prone to aggression
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:40 PM
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society doesn't consider women like this feminine nor do the women themselves, so how can they be measured as a form of toxic femininity when they don't even identity as feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:58 PM
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toxic femininity is basically the equivalent of what toxic masculinity is, it's performative, like a woman believing femininity is about her appearance, how many men she can attract, performing as "trad" etc A perfect example are MAGA women, they are obsessed with their appearance, appearing "trad" but it's all performative, these women are hyper competitive, aggressive, confrontational but they make themselves look like the image of femininity The alpha bros are the same, it's all external proj…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:58 AM
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Strong alpha men like dan blitzerian etc are peak masculine examples, That's not general masculinity it's toxic masculinity which is how men with low self-esteem "perform" masculinity in order to receive external validation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:59 AM
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I care if someone is trying but I'm not concerned if they are succeeding since I know the game is largely rigged. The type of women who prioritize money are also glaringly obvious to spot, they are high maintenance materialistic types whose goal is to be a trophy wife so they are specially trying to bait high earning men Average woman though does not care about money as much as men seem to think, it really is about their attitude and personal responsibility, so no woman is going to want a deadbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:54 AM
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Older "high value" men can get relationships with younger and beautiful women but they are largely transactional, as are most large age gap relationships. If a man wants a lifetime bond he statistically needs to be with a woman within 4 years of his own age But sure, they are winning if they are just looking to have a child with a younger woman since they have a biological advantage there, but that has nothing to do with relational longevity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:42 AM
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men on average age faster then women due to biological factors like telomere length and hormonal differences, it's one of the reasons I've never been into men more then 5 years my senior because they start looking like they could be my dad and it's creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:31 AM
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most people marry a person they find physically attractive but they don't have to be flawless because that's not the motive in wanting to be with a person forever the hook-up though is just a fantasy that gets tossed to the side once the deed is done
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:59 AM
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if you can only have a relationship by buying a woman it's just a longterm hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:47 AM
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if someone loves you that will ensure constant desire, whereas if you are only desired for your appearance/status that will eventually fade (oxytocin vs dopamine 101)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:45 AM
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men created the institution of marriage to stop other (better) men from polygamy, it's basically sexual socialism for men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:43 AM
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Being desirable is not the same as being viewed as easy. Both men and women who seem to be sexually promiscuous/aggressive are not viewed as serious partners and that can follow you for your entire life if a future partner finds out about your past
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:40 AM
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yes it's true, most people fall into the average category but women (mainly) use tools like makeup and cosmetic procedures to mimic qualities that men find attractive because it works
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:31 AM
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people are changing the dynamics since this civilization is in the collapse stage
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:59 PM
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this is true, the modern world selects for narcissistic traits in both partner selection and what is considered a successful person; I'd venture this is common in all historical cycles when they are at their end stage since people have to fight over limited positions and resources In the renewal stage people with more high trust traits tend to have the advantage since community is necessary for survival
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:58 PM
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men will go fight a war where they kill people and can get killed because some man in power told them to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:21 PM
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no some of us are passive and scared of aggressive men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:23 AM
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A lot of muscular men give off an aggressive presence that a lot of women are not into
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:02 AM
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it's not because of libido it's because of degust. Men will have sex with a woman they don't like but women will rarely do that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:17 PM
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I guess as long as you are being realistic it's fine. With my parents it didn't even last that long but they stayed together for finnanical reasons and kids, didn't share a bed anymore and my mom cheated on him a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:20 AM
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because the person in their 30's is still young, but by 50+ your health and looks are going to decrease and your general lifestyle and energy levels will change as well if you want an example, my parents have a 10 year age gap and it shows; my younger mom was still on a totally different way of life then my dad was and it's one of the reasons their relationship did not last
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:44 AM
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perhaps but those are very youthful looking 30 something men, no different then being a youthful looking older woman, like how many guys would turn down a near 40 year old Ana de Armas? The thing is, most older people do not age like Ana and Robert Pattinson, they are an exception to the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:42 AM
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you are not "older" you are still young even if slightly younger women are into you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:31 AM
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age gaps at that age can work, the problems involving the gap happen more as the older party ages while the younger is still young. 26 and 38 is fine, but that will rarely work out when you are 50 and she is 38
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:27 AM
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those men were never voted as being desirable by younger women; in the 90's and 2000's when Clooney was considered desirable it was amongst women his own age while girls like NSync and Backstreet Boys type older which is just a guy in his early to late 20's at best Now a days, girls like Kpop men, Timothée Chalamet, Austin Butler
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:24 AM
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"ideal" is usually based on socially enforced ego and libido, the people who actually get such people often realize they don't like them as much as they thought they would For instance, women think they want a high performing man but don't want to deal with a workaholic who lacks emotional reciprocity and is usually more controlling and aggressive then they wanted Men think they want the hot high maintenance woman until they realize she is shallow, uses them as a walking ATM, has no intellectual…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:35 AM
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Those men are never nice they are just weak and using "niceness" on women they find attractive as a mating strategy, it's all manipulation. Truly nice men are kind and empathetic to everyone, not just women they lust for; men like this do exist and they are not online complaining about women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:23 AM
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it's not just general appearance it's a lot of factors like manners, how we dress, values, etc that is off-putting now a days
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:56 AM
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I agree with you but there is an exception when a woman is very shy and introverted, in those cases you may need to pursue a bit/make the first move. The more outgoing women like you see on social media do tend to know what they want so if you are following them they will reach out to you if they are interested, DMing and simping is a waste of time once they know you are interested
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:05 AM
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It's a combination of not knowing yourself and what you want, and also how people pretend to be one way early on in a relationship in order to "win" the other over then revert to their more natural state which may not be what the other person wants A real bond requires two people being their authentic self and loving oneanother as they are, which let's be honest is really rare
/r/ExRedPill30/08/25 04:25 AM
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the odd guy having private access to a handful of brothel workers is no where comparable to billions of people, starting as children, having access to an endless supply of naked people and ppl having sex We are talking about billions of people having their dopamine recpetors cooked before they even reach puberty and grown men getting quickly bored of having sex with one woman when they can have access to so many (if even just through a screen) This is one of the biggest reasons for the low birth…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 10:37 PM
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some would of course but that also would require money and risk of disease, it's nothing like today where you can see thousands of naked women at in a day if you wanted to, and it starts at an early age Also brothels were in cities, I don't think the average ruralite had access to this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:24 AM
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yes but validation for external things (looks, money, status) is not fulfilling longterm, anyone who has ever achieved that can testify to this. Partnership should be fulfilling but not validation seeking, because if you get your validation from others they can also take it away
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 02:21 AM
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both men and women want to be picked to validate their worth, that desire can become all encompassing if said person also has self-esteen issues and unresolved trauma For example, a woman who didn't have her dad in her life, or he didn't give her emotional security, will seek that from other men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:41 PM
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having access to naked womens bodies is not a male need, it's just accessible because of modern tech. Men in the past did not combust because they couldn't see a variety of naked women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:35 PM
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Because we learn from a young age through our culture that womens value is in their looks and popularity whereas men are generally portrayed as being more flexible with their abilities and personalities So women, and men, naturaly presume when a woman is doing a "mans job" that she is probably not competent at it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:05 AM
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there is nothing pro-womans rights about being hypersexual since this has always been allowed by the patriarchy due to it benefiting men and hurting most women (allows men to cheat, to objectify women, to demoralize and pit women against one another over men) It's basically another way of keeping the patriarchy and consumption culture going (both benefit men) by allowing some women to benefit at the cost of the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:19 AM
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I agree it's so ingrained in society and even I (woman) have to watch myself from falling into it. For one, our society hyper sexualizes women, it's everywhere, so both young girls and boys grow up thinking this is normal., Girls don't even have role models in the media who are not hyper sexualized, so they think that is what a woman should be to successful and liked
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:34 AM
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Asians, especially East Asians, do not prefer white men at all, they just see them as having more money on average then the local men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:17 AM
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I'm a virgin and have no desire to have sex without a deep connection first
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:33 AM
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amazing how they equate being introverted with being less abusive and extroverts as being more abusive like there is any correlation there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:08 AM
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I know it can be harder for people who fall lower on the empathy scale to understand this, but sex for a lot of people is something they only want to do with someone they love
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:02 AM
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if you can't wait to have sex then you are not even looking for a bond just a f buddy, that does weed out bad men since a good man who likes a woman will wait
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:59 AM
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define horrible? If your only bar for not being horrible is not killing or raping women that tells me a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:52 AM
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taking a woman on a date is not a transaction for sex which is where men think they are being used. Dating is getting to know someone, if you are not interested you don't see them anymore, this isn't getting used because you are paying for a womans time to get to know you and she gave it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:51 AM
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and that is a big reason why most men are lonely since they have an inflated belief in what they are entitled to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:48 AM
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this is like never the case, these women have children and do all the housework, these men simply ger bored of that lifestyle and want to have a side piece
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:46 AM
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you decenter others by centering yourself, by being genuine with what you want over what others expect of you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:44 AM
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sure I was just using rich and beautiful women as an example of how women are way more willing to date down even if they don't have to. Successful men almost never date down and the rare time they do they and their women gets harassed by other men for marrying "pigs" (ex Declan Rice, Pierce Brosnan) That being said a lot of beautiful women will date broke ugly men too, my mom and dad being a perfect example of this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:32 PM
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there is less incentive for women to lie to get a man, whereas men tend to be so consumed by their lust that they will jump through hoops to get a woman into bed then do a total shift in persona once they feel they got her locked-in
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:25 PM
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R vs K selection theory shows that humans do better when they invest in their childrens lives over mass reproduction with multiple mates as do other apex species
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:17 PM
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it's hardwired in our DNA to consume as many calories as possible incase of starvation but we shouldn't do that either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:15 PM
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yes it's a primal addicition to an extent but it's also encouraged by horrible role models in the patriarchy that tell men they are "high status" for having sex with a lot of women so it's assosiated with self-esteem as well If men controlled their lust instead of letting it control them they would be much happier and confident people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:13 PM
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that is why men need to learn to control their lust and addiction to being chosen by as many women as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:08 PM
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a lust obsessed man does not stop wandering even when in a stable relationship with a woman because it's an addicition, that is why most subscribers on OF are married men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:04 PM
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most of the time a woman gets treated horribly it's by a man who is her equal or well bellow her, just look at how many beuatiful and rich women have been cheated on/abused by their troll looking men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:02 PM
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it doesn't matter if it's OF/IG and TikTok baddies/porn, etc or literal flesh on flesh it's all cheating and it's all abuse to a woman in a relationship with such a man That's why I don't care for the "if he's ugly and broke he won't cheat cause he can't" argument since it's the intention that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:54 PM
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men put on an act to get a woman then drop the act once they have them locked-in, usually after the get them pregnant/marriage That is not the womans fault it's the mans for being manipulative. It's like if I go and buy a carton of milk and orange juice pours out instead that is not my fault, I bought milk and I should expect milk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:43 PM
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yes when they check out they turn into total parasites, don't do anything to help out their wife, kids and do zero labor in or outside the house except their own wage job Most women eventually realize their life would be better if they deleted these man children from their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:37 PM
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yes most men were happier having a wife slave then not having a wife slave, women on the otherhand gain little and lose a lot from living with such men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:33 PM
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do you think most men are upfront about being horrible people when they are trying to conquor a woman? You use examples of the rare case where a woman gets involved with a notorious bad boy like that is the average case Most toxic men are usually the ones you don't expect, the loser type who pretends to be the "good guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:31 PM
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if a woman gets into a relationship, especially if she becomes a SAHM, for a man who pretended to be a good person only to cheat on/abuse/leave her because he got bored how is it the womans fault and not the mans? These are the same redpilled men who blame women for investing in working instead of being SAHM so we can't win either way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:25 PM
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These types of men seek women who will make them look good amongst the patriarchy because they lack self-confidence, that is the reason these types of men are obsessed with status and wealth, they are all trying to show off to other men These men don't need wealth, status and model girlfriends to feel worthy, they need to decenter the opinions of toxic men just like well adjusted women do, when they do this they stop feeling the desire to chose partners based on male approval
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:21 PM
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it's because men, as a whole, are far less likely to date their equal or date down then women are especially if they are successful, whereas look at how many beautiful and rich women will marry men who look way beneath them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:10 PM
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Women are simply on the whole more attractive and have more sexual value than men. nope, it's makeup and cosmetic procedures, that's all. If men started to be like South Korean men and wear makeup and get plastic surgery like women do they'd be just as physically attractive on average The problem with the dating market is that there are more SIMPS then there are women interested, period. Men will swipe on any female on a dating app to increase their odds of one giving them attention, women are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:23 PM
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a lot of them yes, especially the ones about killing women and having sex with minors
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:27 AM
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yes it is https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/robin-thicke-s-number-one-single-blurred-lines-accused-of-reinforcing-rape-myths-8667199.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:26 AM
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like every single rock band in the 70's, 80's, 90's and every rapper has songs all about sluts, this is nothing new
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:34 AM
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There are entire songs by men about killing and sexually abusing women, even telling them "you know you want it" like "Blurred Lines" Being called stupid is not a big deal in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:25 AM
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sure women can lie but so do men, people need to be careful especially young women of predators
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:53 PM
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said it happened over a decade ago which means he can't still be in his 30's
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:52 PM
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good to here but I've heard so many accounts of men eternally lying about their age to get colledge aged women, like this Mormon girl who went on a date with a guy who said he was in his 30's and 10+s later he is still on dating sites claiming to still be in his 30's
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:01 AM
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what makes you think very young women want to even be married yet? The ones that do generally go for men their own age as well (usually religious couples)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:58 PM
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yes this, the times age gaps work is when they people don't know the others age and just happen to get along well. It's the ones who are very specifically going for that very young age bracket that are predators
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:53 PM
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I don't think they should be illegal but I do agree that there is a world of difference between late teens and early 20's to mid 20's and late 20's and most people in these age ranges prefer people around their own age as well That being said older men who specifically go after very young women are predators, they want to control those women because there is an obvious power dynamic at play, I'm talking like 30+ year old men who target under 25 girls they always have bad intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:50 PM
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this, boundary pushing (including lovebombing early on) and signs of control are a huge redflag
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:34 PM
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>Women were never oppressed. women were not even allowed to keep their assets outside of their "patriarchs" (husband or older male relative/father) control until the 1970s unless said male gave signed permission Imagine having an income or inheritence that your husband could strip from you and you have to ask them, like a child, for an allowance? You telling me this isn't oppression? Marital rape laws didn't exist until the 1980's, so it was literally seen as okay for a man to sexually assault h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:31 PM
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It's not from past traumas but from observations of behavior of men in real life and online, which is all very predatory and born out of toxic masculine (aka "muh dick" and the need to use women to boost your ego especially amongst other men) Women are thus seen as tools/objects to be dominated and conquored not partners to be loved and cared for. This is why toxic men are obsessed with "getting laid", replacing their partners when they "hit the wall" or get sick, living a double life with a mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 11:03 PM
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be careful, these old men are lying about their age on mass to get with women your age
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:48 PM
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because dating apps give women the option to chose such men since they all get hundreds of men in their DM's
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:37 AM
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If you can date and fuck these 'bad' women you can then also date and fuck the good women. No they can't, good women are repelled by such men which is why most of these redpilled "Chads" like the Tates are forever alone stuck with only golddiggers to give them attention
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:33 AM
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you must be talking about club hoes, yeah maybe they are more drawn to men who do things like walk into a room with multiple women like that, the same slimy types who drive around in sports cars and act all macho, they are repelling to normal women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:27 AM
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that is simply not true, you have already had it pointed out to you that a lot of man hoes are not even good looking, they are just people who know how to get women and likely lower their standards to do so Then you have a lot of very attractive men who could be more sensitive that don't want to have hook-ups so they have a lower body count and ftr an incel is a man who cannot pull a woman, these are people who have low self-esteem, high standards and generally horrible personalities which is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:11 AM
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but we are not attracted to man hoes that's the point, we see you as low trust/easy/mentally immature unless you are being used for a "good time"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:48 AM
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as someone who was raised in a toxic household I would have much prefered my parents lived seperatly. There was even a time when they did before getting back together (for money reasons) and I was mentally doing better then having a two parent household
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 12:45 AM
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the idea that men will take care of babies and a household without a woman is hilarious when we have seen what most of yall do when you become fathers Very very few men are active participants in their kids lives, most know little about their children even their medical history
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:49 AM
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most women don't leave a man for losing their job they leave them for giving up and/or taking out their anger on them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:46 AM
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nah even young and beautiful women get abused and tossed aside, if anything they are in proximity to more abusers because of being young an beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:43 AM
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a man who is promiscuous is not a stable partner, they signal a person who will cheat and/or leave their partners more easily, Also signals selfishness and impulsive qualities so cannot have a real bond Not to mention they can make their partner sick with STD's In the long run it's actually worse for men to be low trust since they don't get pregnant but women do and a womans entire life can be destroyed by having kids with such a man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:34 AM
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some of the worst cheaters are ugly average men who cheat on better looking women, I see these stories everyday to prove this point simply put, how you look has nothing to do with emotional intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:23 AM
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men were cheating on and abusing their wives before the 60's/sexual revolution its just that most women could not leave since they were dependent on the man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:20 AM
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as you have already been told, women are drawn to men who can pull in women (due to looks and personality) not to them being promiscuous The type of woman who would want a promiscuous man is either promiscuous herself or she is a super insecure pick-me who wants to be the one who can change him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:12 AM
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countries with social policies also are very expensive to live in especially housing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:12 AM
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you think before feminism men were not abusing and abandoning their wives and children? Why do you think feminism even took off?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:06 AM
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people who are very poor generally have lower IQ's and poor impulse control, which means they are not thinking long term
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:03 AM
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the difference is mainly that the left is more honest about motherhood, how men rarely put any effort into child raising outside of playing with their kids. Most men who want kids tend to put minimal effort into their kids and household needs even if both partners are full time workers The right generally believe it's acceptable for the woman to do all the child raising and household needs, they just think the woman should stay at home (not realistic for most people) and also believe it's easier…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:00 AM
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most young adults live with their parents or in dorms, it's how it's been for decades especially now a days since most of them could not afford to live on their own Are they legally adults? Yes but they are not equal to a 30+ year old in any other way and ftr age gaps have the highest failure rates for all the reasons I already listed https://purposedrivenlawyers.com/age-gap-and-marriage/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:31 PM
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doomer mindset produces doomer results= don't try hard in life/give up mentality= generally not high earners
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:58 PM
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most people in their late teens to early 20's do not have their own place (live with parents or dorm) they don't have any degrees or work experience (no self-sustaining income) and are not used to independence and yes you do have bad intentions if you act on getting with someone that young because of the reasons I stated above, it's predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:54 PM
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because "consenting" goes out the window when there is a power dynamic that great having been a very young woman I know what it's like to be approached by older men and it's never comfortable because of that power dynamic It's that time frame where you are caught between child and adult so being able to have a healthy relationship with an adult is near impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:18 PM
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some women care a lot about money but a lot of women have no issue with a man making less; the ones who care about "high status" men are following toxic gender roles where men are expected to always be richer, smarter, taller/bigger/stronger then women What all women WILL care about is if a man isn't trying at all, the type who is a doomer. If you are a positive working class guy you will have no trouble getting women, it's just that most men who earn less fall into the doomer mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:13 PM
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a 19 and 20 year old are at the same stage of life and development, a 30+ year old is somewhere totally different being attracted to a beautiful young woman is normal, activly going after a very young woman as an older man is in most cases predatory though, they do it to use said women since they are vulnerable which leads to unhealthy power dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:14 AM
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nope but it would allow healthy couples to have the kids they want to have but can't because of finanical reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:10 AM
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sure but that's not womens fault it's because the patriarchy constructs systems of heirarchy which does lock out other men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:08 AM
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unless you are in a gang/related to someone who is it's highly unlikely that you will get attacked randomy by other men to the point where you life is in danger, worst case senario for a man is to get mugged If anything, women should fear being at home with the men they know rather than random men. Since 80% are killed by a man they know. correct we are always in danger of men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:06 AM
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what you're talking about is a directly transactional relationship over an unspoken one. At least half of people have unspoken transactional relationships (i.e woman is there to be hot, make man look high status and give him sex, man is there to give woman resources, trips, fun, etc, but there is no real commitment/emotional connection) Like people already said, if you want the openly transactional type just be an escort
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:23 AM
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the thing is the bulk of the issues that make mens lives worse are caused by other men not women, for women it's the reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:14 AM
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you can get SA/unalived while living in the middle of nowhere, just look up cases like Mollie Tibbetts who went for an evening run around literal farm land
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:12 AM
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having the freedom to go outside, anywhere in the world, without the fear of SA/being unalived is the biggest privledge men have IMO The world is a mans oyster and it's a womans prison Girls and women can get stalked/attacked in the day time too so we are never safe (ftr was stalked throughout highschool by a grown male predator in the neighborhood)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:08 AM
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this only explains INCELS not the lonliness epidemic caused by modern life (i.e being over worked, no community, lack of societal trust, no real social norms/traditions, etc) Even very attractive people are lonely since they can get superficial relationships easily but emotional connection is harder to find
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:51 AM
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our society is collapsing due to unregulated greed not because people are not making more tax payers for the 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:33 AM
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forcing people into toxic relationships is how we got generational trauma
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:32 AM
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sometimes it's just trauma and/or a personality defect
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:27 AM
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sure but men who have money also seek golddigger types so it's mainly transactional anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:51 PM
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>Marques Houston, a celeb in his 40's who groomed a 17 year old >R Kelly, in his mid 20's, groomed a 13-14 year old Aaliyah >Woody Allen groomed multiple teenage girls including his adopted daughter >Elvis, in his mid 20's, groomed a 14 year old Priscilla >Wilmer Valderrama at 29 groomed a 17 year old Demi Lovato these are just some famous examples I have and all the women in these senarios openly felt taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:43 PM
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yes the power dynamics between a 20 and 30 year old are massive; the 30 year old has a developed pre-frontal coretex, a career/money, their own car, home, experience Average 20 year old has none of this and if they do live outside their family home it's usually in a dorm; they basically have no independence since they are reliant on family or the education system
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:27 PM
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absolutely, I hated when these creeps would come onto me. The rare times a younger woman says they prefer older men it's like a slightly older guy or/and looks youthful Like a 20 year old saying they like "older men" they mean like Timothée Chalamet
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:22 PM
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older women see a predator preying on a naive girl who doesn't even have a fully developed pre-frontal coretex that is why they shame older men who do this A lot of older men will come right out and even admit why they go for such young women (aka "I can mold them") it's such an unhealthy power dynamic ftr I'm refering to women teens to early 20's being approached by men 10+ years older then them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:19 PM
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being a virgin is not about character unless it's a choice, just being the first means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:08 PM
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this is the opposite of reality, it's women who are more often prone to date outside of appearance/sexual desire. Men largely just go for the most attractive and youngest woman they can get Almost never see an attractive/successful man with a woman who is physically less then him but you will see quite a decent amount of hot women with some dumspter ugly men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:04 PM
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everything you posted applies to the average man too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:01 PM
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these are high maintenance types and men go after them because these women put the most money and time into their external appearance and general sex appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:59 PM
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most men don't even have money to take
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:23 PM
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women rarely ever lie to get sex from men, they are usually upfront about it. It's men who pretend to want something more then sex from women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:55 AM
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rare
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:04 AM
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that's kind of what I meant, they want to be picked by the pickier women but also want the hyper sexual less picky woman who they call hoes to give them sex and yeah both are ego driven
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:38 PM
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All of them lust for the 3 sixes. What woman is picking a 5'7 guy over a 6ft one (if all other factors are aligned) out of her "unique preferences" ? idealistic preferences go out the window when someone meets a person they just click with. Just like the average man will lust for a young hot woman they will put that aside if they meet a woman they find attractive (maybe not idealistically hot) who makes them happy people do want some level of positive external transaction in a relationship but m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:14 PM
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This proves that most men are actually good human beings and good romantic partners right?Can you please tell this to the feminists bitching about men on forums like these? being in a relationships doesn't automatically equate to being treated well; there are tons of reasons why women will stay in bad relationships and the fact that over 70% of divorces are initiated by women proves that most of them were not being treated well
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:03 PM
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it's this, there is at least a transaction in being used by "Chad" whereas you get nothing by getting used by someone you don't find attractive in anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:58 PM
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bingo, men think women are like them and out there having a bunch of sex because that is what they would do if they could when infact most women are just living without men in their life entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:53 PM
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there are two types of women 1- the ones who know the men are using them for sex and the woman is using them for sex too (as well as resources, trips, fun, etc) 2- the women who are trusting of a man who is pretending to care about them but those men are using them, which creates bitterness the second type of woman is more common which is why there is a dating "crisis", women don't trust men as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:49 PM
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Those "premium" men can easily replace those women for younger, attractive and fertile women on the spot as they get older. Those men get the harem without the need to take care of the women in it. They have no need to invest in them or on relationships for the long term. "low value" men can be dead beats too, it has nothing to do with status
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:41 PM
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being attractive increases someones general value but the redpilled men just want to be attractive to increase their body count, which to me is low value A good looking man with virtue is what's actually high value since they are not swayed by hedonistic bs, they don't seek external validation and yet they recieve more respect then the redpilled alpha bro "high value" men do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:35 PM
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That makes a lot of sense, that most men want to feel chosen so they seek women who are pickier but at the same time they want easy access to sex; that whole Madonna-whore complex playing out in their mind constantly This seems to be why the "solution" for men to just go to a sex worker falls flat since they don't just want sex, they want to be picked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:28 PM
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A lot of women have figured this out, to never trust your life to a man and to have your own life and resources even if you do get married/have kids with them since so many of them will cheat/leave if they could and do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:38 PM
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