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what do you mean? It's easy to bang 17 year olds if you are over 18? I think if you are over like 22, then you will always be rejected by very young girls. Not to mention that these age group of girls tend to be the hottest, and are the most superficial with hundreds of hot guys hitting up their social media, so if you're not handsome, you don't stand a shot from a cold approach with some stunning 17 year old even if you are a few years older
/r/seduction31/07/19 09:36 AM
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no and no
/r/seduction31/07/19 09:34 AM
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lol
/r/seduction30/07/19 02:58 PM
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agreed lol. IN fact, girls often hate it when you tell them like ''Cheer up!' in a club or whatever lol
/r/askTRP30/07/19 12:54 PM
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I agree with all of that. Only you and one or 2 others seem to understand what im' getting at lol So what sort of openers do you tend to use at night?
/r/askTRP30/07/19 12:53 PM
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A bit too simplistic, i'm afraid. Getting laid regularly with hot young girls from cold approach is FAR from 'easy', unless you are like some super handsome dude with A1 logistics etc. Working on yourself and going out is of course good advice. Can't argue with that Doesn't guarantee anything at all, though in terms of cold approach success And 'learning from your awkward interactions' is often a fools errand. Why? the interaction will tend to be 'awkward' if you are not her physical type and th…
/r/seduction30/07/19 12:38 PM
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exactly
/r/askTRP30/07/19 12:06 PM
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Why the fuck did you decide that? I'm from the UK and direct is fine. Experience. It works on girls who think you are very handsome which, for lots of guys, will mean instant rejections on 99 out of 100 approaches lol. I've found that it's better to try to spend more time with the girl (so not get insta rejected) so that you can build upon any tiny amount of attraction that is already there If a girl looks and smiles at you in a club, that's her saying "hey you, come over and talk to me." Agreed…
/r/askTRP30/07/19 11:45 AM
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“Hey how you doing” doesnt sound so formal. Agreed. Better. And that's how about 95% of guys open girls here in the UK (Guys who have never heard of 'game') All you will hear in the UK on a night out on the RARE occasion someone opens a random girl is usually , 'you alright? How's your night going?' It's OK. I just wondered whether it could be improved upon a little since we're the ones reading about 'game' and they're not As I say, my best openers tend to have a kind of inbuilt convo embeded in…
/r/askTRP30/07/19 10:08 AM
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It only looks odd in your own head. I dunno, man. When I open by introducing myself, even my wing thought it was an odd thing to do lol. It's just considered super formal to walk up to someone and introduce yourself here, i think
/r/askTRP30/07/19 10:05 AM
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lol
/r/seduction28/07/19 06:16 PM
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He's maybe just looking for sex as opposed to a relationship, and 18 year olds are as hot as hell lol
/r/seduction27/07/19 02:51 PM
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lol
/r/seduction27/07/19 02:32 PM
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People who flat out deny that your social skills have an impact are wrong, however, I also would say that people have a more realistic idea of 'game' now I think before, people thought of 'game' as some magic skill where you could force girls to be attracted to you, but I think now we just have too much evidence to suggest that she needs to be physically attracted to you before your 'game' can help seal the deal. You can appear confident and use push pull and have good eye contact etc (or whatev…
/r/seduction27/07/19 01:24 PM
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In general i'd say about 26?? (in order to not creep out 18 year olds) But there are still some girls who don't care. I'm in my 30's now and have banged 17 and 18 year olds in the last year or so (ps, before people freak out, age of consent is 16 in the UK lol)
/r/seduction27/07/19 11:08 AM
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lol, I love your confidence, but that's just not how it is, i'm afraid. Lots of 18 year olds will be creeped out and won't even entertain sleeping with someone over 30 for example Not saying it's impossible and that some girls won't be in too it (i'm mid 30's and banged an 18 year old recently) but in general, it's not gonna be common
/r/seduction27/07/19 11:06 AM
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How does Mode1 verbalise his 'not beating around the bush' approach? Is it basically the usual 'I saw you and thoought you looked cute, so wanted to say hi' kind of thing? Or even more direct/sexual ''Hi. I think you're sexy and i'd like to bang you!'' kind of thing? I have respect for direct gamers, but I just feel that it's a game that can only be played by the handsome dudes so haven't really given it a proper crack of the whip, personally (although have certainly made a fair few of them!) I …
/r/seduction26/07/19 04:18 PM
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Don't approach...Be approached
/r/seduction26/07/19 04:03 PM
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My handsome friends do, yeah. I probably wouldn't advise a big ass group, though
/r/seduction26/07/19 03:39 PM
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friends, although not a huge dealbreaker
/r/seduction26/07/19 03:37 PM
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I have a few very handsome friends who basically just need to not piss their pants and they'll get laid. No game required! However, they rarely get approached anywhere outside of bars/night life. Girls aren't gonna cold approach a handsome dude just walking down the street in teh daytime, like....ever But in bars, once the girls have had a few drinks, handsome guys are fishing with dynamite!!
/r/seduction26/07/19 03:15 PM
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If you'd have asked me this a year or 2 ago, i'd say that was a good thing, and that girls like guys who get laid lots and put out that 'vibe' etc Now, I don't know whether some weird shift in society has taken place in a super short term or something, but nowadays, I feel that for some reason, girls aren't remotely 'impressed' by a guy who gets laid lots. It's like girls don't realise that it's not easy (because it's so easy for for THEM as girls to get laid!?) and they see it as a kind of off-…
/r/seduction26/07/19 03:00 PM
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I didn’t even cum If you stuck it in her, you're not a virgin lol
/r/seduction26/07/19 08:37 AM
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If you're in the 'top tier' of handsome, you don't need to worry about targeting athletes lol. The world is your oyster!
/r/seduction25/07/19 09:57 PM
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That's the norm, also known as social circle. Yeah, it would appear so! I guess I was a bit confused as i'm constantly reading on here about how it's impossible to break out of the friendszone, yet everyone is doing it lol PS - Any thought on this btw? Looking for advice. Feel free to post in that thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pickup/comments/chq6yp/how_to_play_this_nightgame_number/
/r/seduction25/07/19 05:40 PM
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Jack Black and Weezer are the same dude in this story? So he was basically an orbiter who ended up getting his girl (and that's the only time you've seen that happen) Yeah, that sounds more extreme than in the many cases I see. But about 95% of hookups here seem to be with people that are work colleague or just friends. Sometimes friends for quite a long time first. I always wonder how 'the move' is made in that situation. I have a feeling i'm overthinking it and it's likely a matter of HER flir…
/r/seduction25/07/19 05:17 PM
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So no flirting or anything. Just basically, you noticed she was comfortable naked (ish) around you so you just grabbed her, put her legs over her shoulders and started fucking her kind of thing? Man, I imagine grabbing a girl and about to fuck her in that situatiton and her flippng out lol. LIke, ''wwhat the fuck are you doing?! I don't like you like that. Get off me!!!!'' lol
/r/seduction25/07/19 04:47 PM
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lol
/r/seduction25/07/19 02:27 PM
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Cool!! I do the same
/r/seduction25/07/19 12:28 PM
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t drove me insane. So I found myself putting her legs in the air and fucking her brains out every morning Yeah, I get that bit lol. I'm interested in the build up. Like, was she giving you massive IOI's because she tihnks you're handsome or something? Did you just 'risk rejection' and tell her that she was hot or something?
/r/seduction25/07/19 10:10 AM
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fingers, tongue, or cock?
/r/seduction25/07/19 08:42 AM
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Approach Anxiety
/r/seduction25/07/19 07:18 AM
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To find someone eventually to settle down with, but with the memory of sleeping with a good handful of very very pretty girls. At this second in time, I just wanna bang lots of hot girls. No shame. It isn't really HAPPENING, but that's the plan nonetheless lol
/r/seduction24/07/19 10:17 PM
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I'm in the UK! I just had a sneaking suspicion we were neighbours based on our very similar thoughts lol In my experience, I don't have these issues in the US, but maybe having an accent helps!! I don't know. I just assumed that US people were like 50x friendlier on a cold approach and less weirded out that Brits (We famously don't really talk to strangers. There's even been comedy sketches about that phenomenon¬!)
/r/seduction24/07/19 07:50 PM
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Too elaborate, I also find that the classic direct opener ''Hi, I thought you were beautiful. Wanted to say hi' or whatever is just too cheesy, especially on UK girls in a bar. Just seems way too full on for them. Especially the really young girls (like 18, 19, 20). I've tried it a few times. Each time I kind of regret it lol And the classic indirect ''Just say 'hi'', ''Hey, i'm Paul', as you say, doesn't create any rapport on lend itself too an actual conversation. It's kind of a 'pre open'. An…
/r/seduction24/07/19 07:45 PM
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I thought this was a post written by me at first! I notice the same things/have the same thoughts. Where are you based?
/r/seduction24/07/19 07:39 PM
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lol
/r/seduction24/07/19 07:32 PM
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lol
/r/seduction24/07/19 05:30 PM
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that’s how you get better. You mean in terms of getting better at eye contact and stuff? Because the words are the same for the beginner and the 'pro' ('Hi, I thought you were cute and wanted tot say hi', or whatever)
/r/seduction24/07/19 03:56 PM
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It's actually the opposite, The 'attraction' part is about looks. Game just helps you not mess up with girls that are attracted to you (such as passing shit tests etc)
/r/seduction20/07/19 01:18 PM
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exactly! I've read so many game books and everything in them is just common sense I already knew lol
/r/seduction20/07/19 09:25 AM
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In fairness, I read ''girls don't care about looks' every day on this sub lol
/r/seduction20/07/19 09:24 AM
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I prefer widely effective game (game that seems to work on every girl) than specialized game. I think everyone has this philosophy really. We all want to be able to bang 'any girl'. Probably is 'game' isn't a some black magic where you can force attraction in someone In my experiences if you open 100 girls, maybe 10 are hard no (really nothing you can do about these) Issue is that this number (10 in your case) might well be 100 if someone is, say, not very good looking, and only hitting on young…
/r/seduction19/07/19 06:42 PM
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I've read pretty much everything so I don't think there's any more 'advanced' stuff than what I already know, tbh
/r/seduction19/07/19 06:37 PM
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But all it takes to find what’s working and not should be easy for you since you were already doing a/b tests with direct / indirect. I don't think it works like that due to the unlimited variables. I could open with ''You are the most beautiful girl i've ever seen'' and it could work and I get laid. Then I used it on the next 5 girls adn they all tell me to go away. Was it my tone of voice? Was it my angle of approach? Was it because I was feeling confident as i got a raise that day? Or was it …
/r/seduction19/07/19 06:19 PM
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You just tried 300 approaches the same way man. Direct AND indirect. What are you suggesting?
/r/seduction19/07/19 03:43 PM
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lol. It's cool. I respect your opinion/culture. As long as we're both having fun and not breaking the law, it's all good edit: Shit. I see you've been heavily downvoted! I guess you're kind of on your own in your view but whatever take it easy
/r/seduction19/07/19 03:14 PM
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A lotta lube. Maybe even get your penis 'thinned out' a little
/r/seduction19/07/19 02:33 PM
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Thanks. Yeah, i've seen all Todd's stuff
/r/seduction19/07/19 02:19 PM
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I commented this part you write, that is below. I believe it is not because your looks, because you are already talking with the girls, but because the way you act. I think some girls will talk to you for a few mins just out of politeness tbh. The other rejections DIDN'T 'talk to me' lol (unless you could ''Sorry, you're not my type'' kind of thing lol) In terms of behaviour, I'm just fun, ask questions, make statements, make observations, lead, show confidnce etc
/r/seduction19/07/19 02:13 PM
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I see that you've been exclusively been going out at night but have you tried daygame? I think your results might change up a bit if you tried daygame. B Honestly, i've thought about it but firstly, I think the fact that i'm in the UK AND in a small town makes cold approach SO strange in girls opinions that i'd be an instant odd ball lol. Even night game approaches feel a bit weird here. I've basically never seen another guy make on on all my nights out! It's just unusual. So I think i'd get eve…
/r/seduction19/07/19 02:05 PM
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'instant rejections' should be around 30% at most for direct for average run of the mill cold approacher. Would that number be completely related to how good looking one is, though? ESPECIALLY on a cold appraoch? definitely more effective direct openers than others What are your night game openers? cheers
/r/seduction19/07/19 02:01 PM
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Online dating gives me much worse results tbh, lol And this cold approach is a huge part of pickup/game, tbh. It's kind of how the whole thing came about
/r/seduction19/07/19 01:58 PM
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That's a high insta-rejection rate for indirect. Look up opinion openers and time constraints. Of course. As I mentioned in my OP, I've read the mysterymethod
/r/seduction19/07/19 01:47 PM
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Who cares about age gaps! 'If she's hot and legal, bang her' would be my advice
/r/seduction19/07/19 01:34 PM
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Yeah, not here really. Her parents are fine with it (not that they have a choice as 16 is legal age here) They're both super happy though. And she's absolutely gorgeous, tbh. Like, a headturner. Get's hit on by all types of guys (some older than my bro lol) all the time
/r/seduction19/07/19 01:11 PM
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Yeah, I know. the girl I did bang was 18, but I think I got lucky there (just broke up with her bf etc) But I think you're right, it makes it harder! But it it what it is.
/r/seduction19/07/19 01:00 PM
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I would not try to seduce coworkers. It may cause you trouble in the work (inclunding you losing your job). I'm in th UK. It's a non-issue here. It's not like the US. Basically everyone dates colleagues here. It's cool Apart from that your report doesn't seem very bad good! Maybe you need to calibrate more your interactions to not get rejected so often. The rejection I feel were really out of my control, tbh. They were a matter of me not being her type (physically). I feel like you can tell if y…
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:50 PM
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lol, I wouldn't say it's weird (very common here. In fact, much bigger age gapes are common!) but I respect your view. We all have different cultures etc. However, tbh, I really don't find old women attractive so won't apologise for finding a large percentage of 18 year olds much much hotter
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:48 PM
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UK. Yeah, clubs are full of mainly 18 year olds. Age of consent as actually 16. I don't see anything weird about it, but respect some people live in different cultures so it's all good My brother is 30 dating a 17 year old lol
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:46 PM
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Rule number 1: be attractive... Yeah, I think it's fair to say that you need the 'looks' to get your foot in the door as it were. SO really, most rejections are completely out of your control so I try not to worry about them
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:44 PM
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Thanks - I'll check it out
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:43 PM
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Cheers
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:43 PM
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You're a fucking rockstar lol, Thanks.
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:43 PM
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UK
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:43 PM
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I just want to experience fun with lots of pretty girls
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:43 PM
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yeah. You don't find 18 year olds attractive?
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:42 PM
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