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deliberately and aggressively pushing or breaking anyone's stated boundaries, whatever they are, even if it is "successful" in the sense that it gets the individual doing it some attention from the person they're doing it to, is not in my opinion a long term success strategy. for men or anyone. because it makes you a rude and unkind person to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:16 AM
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maybe it "works" for people who don't care about others' boundaries to take what they want but.. uh...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:20 PM
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"don't push boundaries enough" ? if there's a boundary it's there for a reason. don't push them and break them, that's bad behavior edit: thanks mods for removing this post. "no means no" is fucking GREAT advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:35 PM
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what does the word "mercy" mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:21 PM
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i don't think most men, women or humans oppose the idea of "equal rights for all" we as individuals just don't always grasp which things could change to make the world/the country/the community more equitable and we can each only speak from our own perspective. not talking down to you with "we don't know" i am saying i myself do not claim to know what is best or blame one gender for these issues. from my perspective, things can improve for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:23 AM
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can, and should.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:05 AM
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the "restrictions" i am seeing (and presented factual info about previously) are not about overall quantity of abortion procedures performed. of course people with resources can continue to access this care, that has always been true even in times and places where it was Not legal. this concern is about localized, needs based availibility being restricted for disadvantaged people. if you choose not to believe in that or look at that, then it is a choice you are making.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:03 AM
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what makes you think i do not? edit: there's also no if here, the threat of violence is real for many. edit 2: you and the original commenter are literally saying to be grateful when men do not hurt us, because, you know, they could. really not into that, to put it mildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:53 AM
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same here honestly, i'm old enough now not to worry as much about myself but there are a lot of young women out there who will be much safer if some progress is made on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:52 AM
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that was what you said, but not what my point was.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:49 AM
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this is a great point and one that (especially) men on here regularly ignore
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:41 AM
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they could "take a trip" too (and regularly do)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:40 AM
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mercy eh we are taking advantage of you guys deciding not to kill us. oookay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:38 AM
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you and i talked about this recently and you did not like what i had to say
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:37 AM
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which one is it guys are we simply too weak to take anything for ourselves, or are we pretending to have lesser rights and gaslighting men???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:18 AM
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they kind of are?? like i personally didn't participate in those things you're referencing, and i doubt you are out there chanting "your body my choice" but both of these extremes exist and both are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:14 PM
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if i zoom out on your comment it looks like you're blaming women as a monolith for individual mens' misogynistic behaviors. seems unfair to everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:17 PM
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crimes are committed, procedures performed. its a relevant detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:53 PM
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not disregard, but see as mostly irrelevant to the point. the quantity of abortions performed in a certain year doesn't correlate to whether or not all humans enjoy reproductive freedom under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:41 PM
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your use of the word "committed" here tells me all i need to know..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:10 PM
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no, not what i meant. true "reproductive freedom" involves each indivdual having agency and control over and responsibility for their own body. only some bodies are capable of incubating a new life, but that doesn't make their agency over their physical selves invalid. each person decides what happens to their own body and whatever is in it. its not advocating for "reproductive supremacy" to say this should be the case across the board, whether you are able to give birth or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:03 PM
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The data does in fact support this claim. Women in the US are finding that life saving medical procedures are unavailable to them since they "count" as abortions. Things like removing an already dead baby from inside of someone (traumatic on an emotional and physical level) are being refused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:55 PM
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yes.. nothing to fight for anymore, we are fine now /s what about reproductive rights, those matter to a lot of women and they are quite threatened in a lot of places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:13 AM
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...the fact that you had this ready to go kinda answers the question
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 08:07 PM
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i wouldn't call man vs bear "age old" maybe in internet years. and its absolutely not always a man, i don't see where OP said that. humans regularly show bad behaviors towarda each other, that's not exclusively male. what does lean male, in my opinion and experience, is the feeling of entitlement to do things that are "annoying but not technically crimes" to women/passersby.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:07 PM
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I don't think we should be painting anyone with the "same brush", this person shared their experience and it was an experience of being harrassed. I save my "that person harrassed someone" brush for the people who engage in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:02 PM
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that.. isn't what they said...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:58 PM
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The kids too, in this very thread you will see a commenter referring to hypothetical children as part of "my stuff"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:22 PM
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(my children are seven and four)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:23 PM
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great analysis, i think you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:50 PM
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umm... ty. later
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:56 PM
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oh, no one is free, my dear. interesting thought, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:54 PM
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ya, its pathological, not biological stop trying to own everything you love, you might feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:46 PM
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"Women don't belong to men anymore; women and children used to be ours, to protect and provide, etc. as trp states. "She is not yours; it's just your turn." you wrote "don't belong to men anymore" "used to be ours" why don't you see where i am getting the ownership thing...?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:56 PM
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you should stop assuming that in the past men were entitled to own women they weren't, they aren't responsibility is still a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:13 PM
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Why should she ever have been yours in the first place is what I'd like to know. ​ Spoiler: *we fucking never belonged to men. Children are also their own people and always have been.*
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:37 PM
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"they have lost their women" ...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:51 PM
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Feminism isn't Christianity, and the patriarchy is not the devil nor is it responsible for everything bad. I do think it exists, though. Individuals are responsible for their own behavior regardless of feminism or the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 06:40 PM
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Ok, my mistake. "Hypergamy" is one of the things these idiots natter on about constantly. ...what in the heck is hypoagency, that just sounds like "super agency" Shouldn't every adult be afforded the same level of "agency"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:02 PM
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Why do you think the goal of feminism is to explain women's failures?? Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 05:01 PM
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My point is that you have a very confused view of feminism. Maybe you've been chatting with too many narcissistic TERFs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:19 PM
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You said "hypergamy" I fundamentally disagree with a whole lot of the red pill evo psych bullshit, but isn't that terms related to sex??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:17 PM
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Uh... ok. You believe feminism is about sex and women getting away with things? That's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:18 PM
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You keep talking about "what feminism wants" I'm pretty sure you don't know wtf you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:09 PM
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Yeah, it was because I liked him. He is still a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:15 AM
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I'd try to find out what I did that was creepy, if I didn't think I did anything bad. It's not a confrontation, it's a question. Especially if suddenly everyone's talking about me saying I'm creepy without a concrete reason why. Again, sorry that happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:49 PM
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...you're only speaking for yourself. Did you ask the person who decided that you were creepy why they decided that? Or do you think their friends influenced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:19 PM
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People do weird stuff. I'm sorry she behaved that way. I also don't think it disproves my experience of being fine with talking to people I'm not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:09 PM
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This is untrue. I've felt creeped out by very attractive men and been completely fine with having a conversation with someone who approached me and I wasn't into their looks. Creepy = unattractive, yes. Both behavior and appearance can be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:15 PM
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I think it is because they do not have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:50 PM
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I'm not saying it's mean. I'm saying, don't be so mysterious that you never let anyone surprise you. Women are humans like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:26 PM
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I get all that but it leaves the person out of it. Like I said, people can have whatever standards they want. I get why it matters to people. But bringing everything down to the level of statistics, risk, and jargon leaves out some of the gray area, the "human element" if you will. A space for human women to exist in the minds of dudes in between having a zero to low number of past partners and "too many."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:40 PM
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If someone is choosing to be with me, it's my own personal problem if I can't get over being jealous or worried about the people they've been with in the past. Unless something about their behavior suggests that they aren't being faithful, it's purely my problem, and many people deal with that and get over it. Just like it's the guy's problem if he can't get over a potential partner's "n-count" whatever it is. If you're in a place where you need to "find out" about each partner's past (still so …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:11 PM
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Most guys will have two out of three of these things at most. Or be close but not exactly fit the "criteria" on one, two, or all of them. It's not a very accurate measure of how good a partner a person would be in my opinion, plus many of these things can be misrepresented or change quickly 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:54 PM
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You said "women voters" are trying to create a society where women's bad choices aren't punished. ...Sorry about your grandpa but I really don't think that's the fault of womankind as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:47 PM
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....what?? Are you talking about abortion again. God I fucking hate this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:04 PM
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No, I'm not out there on the dating scene, so not coming at this from a personal perspective, except in retrospect. I'm not sure where your analysis is coming from but it's incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:14 PM
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It all goes very deep. This is why I always have such a visceral reaction to red pill BS, the game never ends. They each just truly want to be the scammiest person who gets the most sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:34 PM
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I'm married, we have kids. It's not for everyone but I like my life the way it is. We have found a pattern that works for us and are able to adjust to each other as life throws things toward us. My husband and are not very traditional, tho. For most of our relationship I've been the primary earner (not like I earn a lot lol) but in the past year that has flipped and he is making a bit more money than I do while I take more care of the other stuff. We have a good sex life and try to stay on top o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:17 PM
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You can find people acting weird about criminals of every gender. Girls like A Clockwork Orange, or think that Ted K is "hot" For these situations, I say, fiction exists for a reason, no one needs to get with a real serial killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:47 PM
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Women get very "into" male serial killers too. Not all of us. I think it's a weird combo of danger and silliness that leads people to say stuff like this, I don't think most of them are serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:45 PM
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Just reporting often isn't enough. Also, many people have reasons to delay or avoid reporting, whether they make sense to you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:57 PM
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I think you're underestimating the number of people who "get away with it." It's a problem in society, imo a less gendered one than many on this sub seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:52 PM
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Uh huh. Or a large number of other things happened that happen all the time that lead to people who do these things continuing to be a part of this society. So...we have to talk to them. As you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:08 PM
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Who "we"?? A person's body isn't cash. Most rapists are not in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:58 PM
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I don't think it's seen as defending rape. I think women find it exhausting to be told these "well meaning tips" by people who don't understand that no matter what you wear or how much you drink or how late you stay out, as a woman you have to consider that someone might not take "no" for an answer and plan accordingly. It'd be nice if we could change that from the perspective of men (and people!) not raping others, instead of continuing to restrict the list of "safe" activities a woman is able …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:29 PM
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...that isn't the kind of comment I'm talking about, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:42 AM
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Let me explain a little more precisely. I don't know any men or women irl who hold the belief that rape is fine. If I did, I'd make sure I never went near them. On the internet, I have definitely seen people say some very gross things. I've also, in interactions with people in real life, had them blame their own or another person's (generally a guy, but women will get this too esp about our periods lol) biology - this uncontrollable factor causing her, him or them to engage in behaviors that som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:41 AM
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That people who are rapists or aspire to that may feel compelled to be secretive, or at least not publicly honest about their crimes or desires??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:46 AM
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I very specifically said not all. Also, I don't think there's anyone who is able to sustain an existence where they go around defending that's it's ok for anyone to rape anyone... and yet somehow rape still happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:30 AM
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Uh..ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:19 AM
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You would hear what they think and you could decide if you agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:16 AM
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...what standard, not raping people?? I think most men and women can. Why do you think you know more than I do about how men treat women when they want something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:14 AM
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That's pretty different from what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:13 AM
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You could listen to women some time. We've had the experience of guys telling us that their behavior is due to all kinds of BS that shouldn't be an excuse. Actually if you look at comments in this thread you'll find some of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:58 AM
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....I'm not talking about the internet bud
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:54 AM
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I didn't know you were a man, this explains I suppose why you don't know about this issue. ....and I didn't say it was educated, or correct!! Just that it happens and I'd like it to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:41 AM
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Yes they do.... Obviously not every man, but they definitely do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:40 AM
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...this is pretty off topic from "changing something about men's sexuality" friend You are asserting a fact, that men can be raped by women. That's true. There are problems with the law surrounding this in many places. I don't know why you're inserting that fact into this conversation unless you're trying to lead the discussion off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:39 AM
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And... Are you in any sexual relationships with men? Do you have men interested in you/are you interested in them sexually? If you are... I'm very surprised if you've never heard this kind of thing offered up as an explanation or excuse for inappropriate sexual behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:33 AM
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I'm wondering if you've spoken to or interacted with any number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:22 AM
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Well, it is included in the Maslow "hierarchy of needs" I don't exactly quarrel with that but there are asexuals and people who are much less interested in sex than the average human, of all genders. I don't think men should feel entitled to sex from the kinds of women or anyone that they specifically desire just because they "need" it ..but everyone deserves the freedom to find the kind of relationships/family/life they want... Whether they're really into having sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:26 PM
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Hm it's not what I was thinking about but I feel like most cat calling falls under "bad behavior" and is often excused by the whole "boys will be boys" or "urges" crap... What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:22 PM
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...well, there's a reason for "don't pee in public" to be a rule. I don't agree with it being correlated with being a sex offender. But you shouldn't pee in front of strangers who can see you, if you're doing that, even once, stop haha. On the topic of the other stuff you were writing... Do you seriously believe that people, and men in particular, "need" sex? It's kind of a biological need, yes. But people do successfully live without it either by choice or accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:57 PM
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I don't really agree with the sex offender status from peeing. I think it'd be a pretty easy excuse after whipping it out for nefarious purpose tho lol so I guess it makes sense they remove that as an "option"...? "I just rly had to go"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:41 PM
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....I'm not punishing anyone, and can you explain to me a little further which part of society is not allowing you to have sex?? Or is it a different biological function we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:22 PM
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Uh...what a strange analogy to make. Interesting that in some places you can be registered as a sex offender for peeing on a building OR acting inappropriately on your.. uh, needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:57 PM
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Let's back up a little. "Red pill" doesn't have a monopoly on bettering yourself and not placing terrible people on a pedestal because they're a woman. That's also very possible with common sense and/or a nice family/good friends lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:27 PM
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Uh..buddy....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:03 PM
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The only thing I can think of that reasonably relates to men's actual sexuality: Stop blaming your bad behavior towards partners on your "so strong sexual urges testosterone" Desire is completely fine, wanting things is completely fine. Hurting others is not a "need" for any human. We all control our behavior and that "you were really horny" is absolutely not an excuse to engage in behavior that hurts others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:21 PM
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O.o I see it differently. I think red pill has created an extra large number of incels. Black pill wouldn't exist without red, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:57 PM
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....you should maybe ask yourself why "those guys" are so attracted to "your" space.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:08 AM
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What's incredible to me is that anyone thinks otherwise... Who is out there telling men "all women are perfect" Like... Why tf would you all even start thinking that anyway. Most women I know don't think of themselves or all women as perfect and we know men are human too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:02 AM
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My long term bf broke up with me when we were in our early 20s. It was because I didn't pay enough attention to him! I took him for granted, didn't make special plans for his bday. I wasn't the only one at fault for the problems we had but I think if I'd been more committed our relationship would have lasted longer. We're still friends though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:03 AM
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Early 20s. Became very disturbed and immediately learned all I could from their gross online presence. Now it's ten years later and surprise! I still really fucking hate the way they talk about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:35 PM
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You're the one who keeps saying equality. I think equity and equality are important for everyone, not sure why you keep making fun of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:23 AM
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I'm not saying every woman lives in fear all the time. I don't. Most I know don't. But the flip side of this "we're stronger" thing that you guys love to talk about is.. that men are usually more physically violent. Yes, to each other, and to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:46 AM
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....it's not fixating on something to acknowledge and account for that thing's existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:29 PM
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Assault is a real thing that happens, and then our clothes get brought up. Or our choices. No one is saying you think assault is good but men do tend to ignore it as a factor ..when for women it's hard to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:44 PM
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a little more composed id say and more like a grown human being. "not grown" Child: a human who is not grown up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:10 PM
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?? I do not understand. Why do you guys persist in calling women childish for disagreeing with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:09 PM
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"go rogue"?? How should we all be acting, in your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:19 PM
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i said women have more capacity than men for it when pushed. This I heavily disagree with. It actually bothers me to see that you think that. I said "bad relationships" because the experience you described sounded awful. I'm aware that even when things end badly there are fond memories, I wasn't trying to mischaracterize your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:38 PM
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...what? What context would you like me to put it in?? The only context I have is that we're talking on a debate sub and you brought up your own life as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:47 PM
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I'm not misinterpreting you. I am reading the words you wrote. You don't like what I think about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:25 PM
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O.o I really hate talking to you red pill guys sometimes. I wish you didn't jump to "I could have beaten them all to a pulp and I should have cause women are the worst but I'm so great that I didn't do that" Jesus fuck. I've seen it before too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:19 PM
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I... don't think that's accurate. If you look at domestic violence and murder stats you'll see the point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:09 PM
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....that's the world you think you live in. I said "it sounds like you've been in some bad relationships" It sounds like people have treated you badly. If I talk on this sub about the way men have treated me I'm always hysterical or lying. I believe you that those stories happened. I'm sorry you were treated that way. I just don't think all or most women are always crazy or behave badly, and I'm not sure why you're trying to argue that. Your guy friends think women are crazy. You think women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:05 PM
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It sounds like you've been in some bad relationships. I don't agree with you that women are the "crazy ones" but I definitely recognize that all humans can have bad behavior. Are you 100% sure that the craziness in your relationships has always been the woman's fault while you remain innocent? If you are, I hate to say it but that's a bad sign
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:53 PM
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No, whenever I talk to one of these guys it's a weird sob story about a woman trying to make her hit them by just being so annoying, or ladies that they date treating them bad and lying to them. Paranoid mofos you guys are, really. I understand that people are in pain, I absolutely get that. It's often caused by personal situations. How it could lead to this kind of distorted thinking and lack of empathy for others, I have zero clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:46 PM
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Lol what?? I've seen Disney movies when I was a kid but it's not like I've ever read or seen anything else. Why do you assholes think that women are stupid?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:44 PM
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"true nature" huh Yikes you guys are really brainwashed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:31 AM
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I read their idiotic shit all the time. All kinds of stuff about keeping women in line, making sure they know their place as sexual companions rather than equals. It's very disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:43 AM
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...you aren't required to like every person or think they're a good person. Why would you?? Shitty people are out there. It's not, however, a conspiracy of women to ruin men's lives or vice versa. It's a lot more complicated than that. Red pill is very combative. It doesn't seem to me like it leads to healthy interactions between men and women, more like a sense from the man that they've "won" if they get what they wanted out of it. To me, it seems gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:39 AM
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Well ya, they shouldn't be trying to "get" us More like get to know us and realize that even after marriage they don't own us. Amazingly, they never have :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:33 AM
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See this is the extreme weirdness, it's right here. "It's just about sex, things like morality, real life, fairness, or relationships are completely irrelevant to it!" While at the same time people are going around saying its "the truth" and acting like they are part of a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:21 AM
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Men should be concerned with their morality, the rest of us have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 04:03 AM
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People absolutely don't want to say they have negative traits. Women and men both will sidestep having to talk about their own faults. One thing I have noticed in this sub, and I think it's the gendered nature of the place, but the transphobia/trans exclusion is rampant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 02:14 AM
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I think it's easy to have miscommunication, especially online, but I agree with you about how it feels to talk with these guys. They will often unironically lead with things like "you are a woman so..."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 01:44 AM
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....uh, ok I don't think you're talking to me, it seems like you're upset with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:59 AM
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I'm not really seeing that tbh. Most people within society as well as in the weird little sphere of this sub appear to be aware that "not all men" are terrible and violent and misogynistic ...and that women have bad behaviors as well. I see that reflected in most people's comments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:31 AM
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No one's on here saying all men are worthless misogynist patriarchal assholes, I do think there are some commenters (me included) that connect red pill strategies and behaviors with guys who are But most men are completely normal members of society who work and contribute in whichever ways they do... Just like most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:50 PM
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Didn't intend that violently. Just was thinking, if I was a plate I'd be one of those neat cracked kintsugi ones fixed with gold 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:26 PM
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Well that's fine and normal, but it really depends how far you carry that mindset. It's not a war or a game, it's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:28 PM
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I'm a broken plate that will cut u haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:34 PM
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I'm not arguing that women are likely to be the fighters in a dangerous situation if men are around, I think the opposite. I don't want to know what you think about women unless you are ready to be respectful about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:34 PM
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I don't think the second part correlates as well with the first as you may think. "The best laid plans" and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:17 PM
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Yep lol And if people give counter examples from their own lives they're very quick with the "you must be extremely fat and ugly with many cats" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:14 PM
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...really? Because I have. I've seen men destroy their own lives over relationships that were never going to work out and then blame the woman. I have also seen women behave that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:12 PM
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Children, hamsters, etc My theory is that if they saw us as adult humans like them they wouldn't feel comfortable talking about us and treating us the way they do 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:10 PM
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They like sex, and they like their idea of "good women". They probably even like sex with women. But they don't actually like actual women.. and they won't stop messing with us and trying to "game" us lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:09 PM
14

AWALT? Doesn't that mean... All Women Are Like That??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:07 PM
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They're like fortune tellers, they have the right story for every occasion 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:06 PM
1

I'm sure this has a basis in fact, however it doesn't make women stupid or incapable of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 08:05 PM
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Their belief that men are somehow better than women, or "more logical" Different and historically more oppressive to others doesn't equal better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:10 PM
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It was a joke about the hulk. But imo, guys who are following the RP party line are often in fact angry or upset much of the time, sometimes specifically with women, for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:00 PM
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Some of your info is outdated. Women don't hide behind men in all situations, especially when its impossible as the man isn't there. Caring about the paternity of a child is not something people used to care about more. In fact, in my understanding, caring about that is a lot more related to passing on property and land, and controlling women, than the way men feel about women lying. You also wrote some nonsense about women not being included in studies because we have periods, now that's just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:59 PM
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Red pill strategies will get you dates They are not the ticket or the key to a healthy actual relationship imo So sure, use them, I guess. My advice is, be ready to let go of them if you truly feel something for someone you're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:53 PM
2

Well, I understand "they want to believe" But seriously Mulder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:21 AM
1

I think you have a pretty weird view of the way humans help each other survive. It's definitely true that communication helps you hunt. Don't you think communication also helps you decide where to live and how to take care of kids? You should check out some of the new evidence for hunting big game being an all gender activity on the ancient past.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:30 AM
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I guess I don't see a problem with a man changing his appearance either. It's not a lie, and most people can tell if a guy has a toupee, a woman is wearing makeup, etc I think unfortunately that when someone is wearing makeup and/or nice clothes and still seems unattractive to people, they will make fun of her too :/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 11:09 PM
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I guess what I and maybe some others are pushing back on just a little is that maybe it would work better for some of you guys to think more about compatibility than advantages, when considering dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:56 PM
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Your comment doesn't make sense, I'm delightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:54 PM
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I'm not shaming anyone, I am genuinely wondering. People ask me about FDS all the time, I find them fairly gross as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:03 PM
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Wearing makeup and not being open about your body or gender or history (with someone you might have sex with) aren't the same kind of lie. I don't consider wearing makeup or a push up bra to be lying, what a strange world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:27 PM
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Maybe that's a red flag you shouldn't be red pilled. jfc For whatever reason they understand that they need to keep it a secret, but not this part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:19 PM
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The thing is, they're like the Hulk. They're always angry..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:17 PM
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My basic diagnosis of the red pill is that they're not wrong (as in, not all of their beliefs are incorrect, and many of their strategies "work") But they are major assholes. And, I see many of the tactics they encourage as morally wrong, whatever gender is using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:13 PM
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I'm aware of that. I have spent a significant amount of time paying attention to red pill crap and I hate it for a lot of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:02 PM
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Yeah but sometimes you find things out. Some people are good at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:55 PM
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No, the subtler people are eventually obvious as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:53 PM
2

Yeeeeaahh. Not convinced. I have yet to see any proof that men are as superior as you guys claim lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:20 PM
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Incredibly disturbing. This is why I call any indication that someone has gotten into red pill anything a "red pill red flag"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:00 PM
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Ya srsly Introverts are sexy and we talk Just, you know, at intervals in between hiding in our cave 🐨
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:58 PM
1

Uh .. weird take but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:54 PM
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The thing that really gets me is how bad some of you seem to think being a woman is. Where does that come from...?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:58 PM
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Shikata ga nai, l'chaim and c'est la vie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:55 PM
1

One step, huh? We are the same species you will recall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:46 PM
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Yes, for now. That's how a lot of relationships start, imo it's a good thing. Getting attached way too quickly can be very painful and I'm not against avoiding pain. But, avoiding pain and suffering too heavily makes it hard to let any good experiences in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:45 PM
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All the "she'll never love you for real it's just your turn" That isn't true. It's handing people a tool, an excuse, that allows them to avoid making the kind of connection that can hurt. Edit: which also avoids the joy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:53 PM
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Yeah. I think the pills gender everything waaay too fucking much. But there's some good psychological info in there. You seem cool, don't forget that women have brains even if they don't work the same way yours does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:52 PM
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We aren't all the same. And strangely, honesty means slightly different things to different people. I see the red pill approach as extremely "emotionally dishonest" it's the main thing I hate about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:49 PM
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If you don't approve of the tactics and you're completely incognito irl, why are you going around talking about trp so much? How deep undercover are you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:46 PM
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Or people who like to actually speak about the things they think about and are interested in someone else's actual thoughts. Where does the game end for you guys, and where do you allow real life to begin..?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:43 PM
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It's pretty fucking obvious when they open their mouths. If they think all women are the same. If they don't think you know how to use your brain, because you're a woman. If they believe you'll never love them for real and it's just "their turn" so they'll do all kinds of awkward shit to try to keep you in line. It actually doesn't even take exposure to red pill content for insecure men to act in this way but the red pill absolutely makes it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:42 PM
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No one "needs" attention. We all like it, if it's the right kind that we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:37 PM
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Everyone likes attention!! Even you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:35 PM
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Uh...ok? You know what, find me a human who doesn't want attention/connection from other humans. After that you can be insulting about people who like to talk with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:25 PM
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Hm. I actually don't prefer the silent ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:06 PM
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Men will gossip your ear off, wtf are you talking about?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:58 PM
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I get it. I just want to make sure people know it's, you know, not a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:38 PM
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O.o You think makeup is lying?? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:37 PM
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It's rough to think that people are going to bring these tactics to "real life" Some of the red pill stuff is less harmful when it's mostly applied to the occasional random hookup I guess :/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:27 AM
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I don't see how it's a useful metaphor if it doesn't relate much to human or animal behavior outside of specific conditions of captivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:53 AM
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About a Boy by Nick Hornby 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:51 AM
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Women want you to lie... About what, your feelings? How do you know they want you to..?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:40 AM
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A v shape... What? A v shape body?? What like johnny bravo? I am not as familiar with these terms as I am with all the ones that outline the ridiculous beauty standard for us ladies 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:25 AM
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Ok... But it's not like this is scientific or an accurate description of humans by "type" You could likely be more successful if you wanted to try some new things, and "dominant" isn't gonna be everyone's style :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:08 PM
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Yes. In older versions of the story, the father is more of a character. Gaston is a perfect Disney villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:34 PM
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The alpha and beta language is an unfortunate remnant of research that has been done in the past on captive wolves. The scientist who first wrote about it has been trying to debunk his own claims for years after furthering his research. It doesn't have a lot of correlation to how humans behave with each other or to how wolves behave in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 07:52 PM
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What tipped me off is that his story about the title and I guess maybe even the idea for the book was about his daughter, wanting to hear a story about princesses and brides or something. Then in the prologue he's got this weird and creepy wife and an overweight teenage only son and I was like "wait a minute"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:04 PM
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Gaston is such a weird addition to the story, he's very gross. But also, guillotine the Beast 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:01 PM
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If you haven't read the book, you'll love it. William Goldman is the author. Don't believe a word he says about his life, he made up an entire fake family for the prologue lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:50 PM
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You'll like the Princess Bride then. Great book and movie. I love stories but the Disney version is often a lil barf-worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:47 PM
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.. I don't think you're paying enough attention to the other side of the fairy tale. Cinderella is abused by her family. She has a reason for wanting to get out. Snow White as well. Anyone ever tell you the tale of Vasalisa the beauty?? I love that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:38 PM
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Don't game us. Humans are not a game. You sound kind and smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:29 PM
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They should fix themselves is the real answer. Regardless of gender. But having caring people in your life can help with that whether they are friends or family or a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:19 PM
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Ok, so you're talking about a "rescue" fantasy (Cinderella, snow white) or maybe a beauty and the beast style of tale. What about Sleeping Beauty? The original story is rape, not a kiss. She even gets pregnant! Disney never made little red riding hood. I like Moana.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:15 PM
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You can certainly say it and I don't think you're incorrect. I don't like seeing short teenagers call themselves by black pill lingo and give up on life before there's a chance for them to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:11 PM
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"all women are the same, except me I'm not"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:17 AM
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Yeah, it's pretty dumb. However saying one or two of those examples when you're starting our with someone makes sense to me regardless of gender. I've felt reassured by people checking with me by asking things like "is this ok" It definitely shouldn't be constant or the only thing talked about tho hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 04:08 AM
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Ok... What about a couple where one person makes less money or is less focused on their career than the other. Is that alright with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:27 AM
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You should be a little more specific so we understand what that means. A Russian fairy tale or a French one?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:24 AM
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I'm not arguing that it's good to become overweight or that it is something that "just happens" to you. Of course your diet and lifestyle will have a significant impact on your appearance. There are other factors too. But.. I joked about your robothood because you kinda sound like you think people are machines. We are in fact messy organic beings who make mistakes and choices that others would judge us negatively for. We also have to associate with each other if we want any company or help with …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:00 AM
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Uh ..ok. You seem like a real nice person and definitely not some sort of robut, have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:46 AM
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Interesting. Well, this specific example is actually one I see pretty often. Of course it can go the other way too, where the lady has "let herself go" a bit and the guy looks fit. There are also many couples where both people get a little chubbier and less focused on their appearance as they get older. I think what's most common is to see couples who are a fairly similar level of attractiveness/fitness to each other either because they have always been that way or they start to share habits. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:38 AM
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It's not foolish if it's what the couple both want. Appearance isn't the most important standard for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:09 AM
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They're pretty delusional about this one. We all have muscles, we'd be dead without them. Not all women are attracted to the super muscly, lifts every day "look"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:07 AM
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I think the part that's confusing here is how you're assuming that the hypothetical overweight man "requires" his wife to be hot. And maybe she would be a person who found his body type hot, or is asexual and doesn't care what her partner looks like or....??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:02 AM
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....you have a pretty skewed idea of what women spend our time thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:54 PM
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Ok... And these women don't speak clearly to you? They don't ever tell you what they do or don't want? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:30 PM
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Uh... If you've gone your own way so arduously, on what authority are you basing your knowledge of how women behave?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:18 PM
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The DSM has been updated, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:52 PM
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It's not sinister in itself But.. It's ultimately a sinister outlook on life. I don't agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:48 AM
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Oh I love biology. Yes we're animals. I agree. Human kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:44 AM
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What are you talking about? Would you like to chat or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:39 AM
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Whoa. Yes we're animals. What are male hamsters up to while the captive female hamsters are nervously eating their own children?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:38 AM
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That... Is really inappropriate to write to someone who's had suicide in their past on many levels. Thanks for the real trigger, bro. Moving on from that, lots of people are single and enjoy that. The red pill is fine, in so far as it helps people live their life and enjoy themselves. I happen to see some other, more sinister parts of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:36 AM
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... Women aren't all the same. "She's a woman" doesn't mean a giant amount. You have to treat us like you don't know us yet! Don't pretend you already "get" us just bc we're a woman like all the others. Ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:52 AM
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... I didn't say either of the second two things. I think those things are up to the individual regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:23 AM
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....it kinda seems like you're caught up in thinking about the general behaviors of very large groups. I don't see a person gaining some general tips or advice from TRP as a terrible thing. I do think the total "ideology" is, well, yikes. Treating us (women) like humans means, letting us get to know you as an individual while you treat "us" (an individual woman) as her own person, and not ascribe the negative qualities of all women to her. It's hard, especially if you've had bad experiences. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:20 AM
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No, "trying" is completely fine. Just treat us like humans, not hamsters. We can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:14 AM
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Great. Men trying to get with, primarily, women. You guys will complain if we talk about how it affects us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:11 AM
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Ok, but, tell me what red pill stands for. And make it sound positive toward all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:55 AM
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Ok, well, I, a woman, say that the red pill does not understand us. It underestimates and endeavors to manipulate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:35 AM
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I don't necessarily think red pill shouldn't exist. I think there's some good advice on the surface and a very rotten inner core of poisoned grossness that leads to suffering. Like a rotten apple with a thin layer of frosting on top. It won't hurt you to get a little of the frosting with your finger and eat it, just don't take a bite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:56 AM
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What do you think you're arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:41 AM
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.... Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:27 AM
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Well if you think men are never too pushy with women, then you sir have likely never been a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:20 AM
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It's not even a red pill thing. The people who will belittle you and believe you're stupid and don't know what you want just because you're a woman actually don't need to have ever come into contact with red pill bullshit. But, that content definitely makes that type of guy worse. He'll make a big deal of how much money he makes. He might be juuuust a little too pushy. He'll "strategically" touch you to find out if he can start getting sexual. He'll put you down, "playfully" It's gross, and news…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:13 AM
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Because we aren't dumb and can spot red pill crap irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:06 AM
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The red pill is designed to repulse women? I thought it was the opposite. Besides the fact that actually reading the subreddit is gross to me, if I recognize these tactics in the wild I also hate it. So do most other women. ...and I know this post is saying red pill is for men not women But it's for men to "get" women. So it involves us, and we can see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:59 AM
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Oh. There's this cute passage in Matilda by Roald Dahl that I like about ugly people being attractive. But I do understand halo/ horns when you put it like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:46 AM
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I'm not "unattracted" to TRP. I'm repulsed and disturbed by its reptilian existence. Very different from a neutral "unattracted" !
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:44 AM
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This is kind of weird. I think I don't understand what you're saying, perhaps because I am not hetero.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:43 AM
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I think all of us can "do better" I'm not sure where you're getting the impression that I think it's fine for men to be abused, I really don't. I think anyone in a domestic violence situation or who is getting harassed should have people help them and should be able to reach out for help without being shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:42 AM
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I'm not. I'm saying people assaulting or abusing each other should be treated the same way regardless of gender - that is, the community around them should help the person who is experiencing abuse from either a random on the street or their romantic partner or a family member. I understand that it isn't treated the same way between men and women being the aggressor. I think you're turning all women into villains more than you need to in your desire to discuss this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:31 AM
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Well I'm starting to feel concerned for him tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:29 AM
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Hamsters are known for our industrious plotting and life ruining skills 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:11 AM
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....what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:11 AM
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Lmao I was checking myself thinking "am I being unreasonable?" Then I read some of OP's replies to other commenters 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:03 AM
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Women may laugh about men getting their dicks cut off. Gross for them to do so. Men laugh about raping and killing women. Both are bad behaviors that speak poorly of the person doing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:54 PM
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Uh... I can't speak for all women but I don't hate people for being unattractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:52 PM
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Well it's not like all women are evil villains and all men are innocent victims, why shouldn't I "both sides" it??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:52 PM
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I have seen actual arguments where women were the ones taken aside by a bystander. I saw your videos. One experiment in one place doesn't make something true across the board. Women don't (and shouldn't ) have a free pass to abuse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:34 PM
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They (the bystanders who didn't help the guy) should not behave that way. The two in the videos were pretty convincing. I don't blame the guy who tried to take him down for thinking it was a real attack on her :/ People should have responded to help the man they way they did to help the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:21 PM
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Not what I said. But I think you're imagining the scenario with a significant amount of bias (not a dig at you, we all bring bias to whatever we're looking at. I know I do) I don't think "society" treats men and women exactly the same at all, and I think society is different in different places. The reaction of society to one person abusing another is important, and the gender of the individuals shouldn't matter. Where I'm from, a couple having an argument would be left alone. If one of them hit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:06 PM
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I think perhaps you're considering an internet crowd more than a real life crowd. You also (I'm guessing) don't have experience being a woman in a crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:58 PM
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I think women feel more empowered to safely say what they really think than they may have felt in the past. This of course isn't a good excuse to be super mean but I do see some benefits to people in general speaking their mind more clearly. Edit for clarity, I realized it sounded like I was saying there are benefits to being super mean, which is rarely true in my experience 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:51 PM
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I guess I'm some form of alien then rather than a woman, by your definition. I'd offer that you might not know how every woman, or every adult, thinks and operates and relates, sexually or other wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:47 PM
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You're looking at this topic in an incredibly simplistic way. Consent is real. Enthusiastic consent exists as a concept in contrast to a situation where people (even women, we are people remember) are too passive to say they do or don't want something - even if they end up "saying" it in a shy or coy manner. It's also not just for women, you should try enthusiastically consenting to things. You might like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:15 PM
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...what? Not what I said or the perspective I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:41 PM
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...anyone who knows what it is is capable. I have learned how. I think enthusiastic consent as a guide for whether to move forward makes sense. Why are you so skeptical of the ability of women to consent to things clearly? I've done and seen it happen many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:40 PM
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Severely depends on what you said and how you behaved. If you (general you!! I'm not even gendering it) walk up to someone and start using aggressive pick up artist tactics and they're not interested, I would hope it wouldn't need to get to the point of the police being involved. Hopefully the biggest intervention that'd be needed would be for the person you're trying it on with to say "no thank you"... Or bartender or a bystander or your friend to distract you ...but if these things don't work?…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:17 PM
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Ok but without making it too personal, I'm expressing skepticism that these things would happen to you if your behavior was appropriate. If it gets to the point of you being asked to leave by staff/escorted out by cops .... Then it seems to me like either you did something that truly upset another person (whether that's an overreaction on their part or something that was over the line from you)... or else maybe the venue has a particular problem with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:10 PM
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Well... Maybe these men need to examine the way they're acting, or maybe the people they're approaching are overreacting. Maybe a little of both. Without specific examples I don't have a strong opinion. I'll give an example of what I see as inappropriate behavior: making a sexual comment within the first few minutes of conversation, or making it all about complimenting (or on the other hand engaging in immediate "negging") Another hilarious example is couples approaching for a threesome (yes thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:04 PM
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...uh, ok? I think you're talking about enthusiastic consent. Which is a positive thing imo. It seems like you're being a little sarcastic about it tho, not sure I like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:56 PM
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...have any of these things happened to you when you politely approached a woman? Those all seem like pretty extreme things, if your behavior is appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:55 PM
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If you'd like to talk about fear I'll just quote Margaret Atwood again and nobody wants that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:43 PM
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This is a pretty weird perspective, grooming usually refers to someone who is older "preparing" a younger (often not yet "legal") person for sex or a relationship, in a manipulative way. Doesn't really come into the equation if we're talking about hookups/one night stand type of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:38 PM
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Hamsters are known to work at the speed of light! Hahahahah! Thanks for the laugh today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:36 PM
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Most people who end up being kind and empathetic in their relationships throughout life have at least one story like this, where they (we) recognize the point of "becoming the problem" Growing and changing is what it's all about :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:39 AM
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First off, you sound like a nice and cool person to have either a professional, friendly, or dating relationship with :) The FDS triumvirate of 6-6-6 🙄 ...makes you very attractive to people who are interested in utilizing their tactics. Being 5'11" instead of six feet makes zero difference as does making slightly less money but still being financially "stable," or having an ahem dad bod but still covering the other two "sixes" They appear to go for "at least two out of three" haha. My opinion: …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:55 AM
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Agreed, and I wasn't even considering situations that are more like "breakups" (quotes bc some people wouldn't really consider it breaking up a relationship to end a casual thing or communicate that's what you want) in my response as much as an on the spot "I'm not into that with you, later :)"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:23 PM
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Uh... No? This idea that only men ever experience rejection is pretty weird. I fully agree with the perspective that it's often easier for women to go out randomly get dates on tinder or hook up at a bar or whatever. That doesn't mean that no women are ever rejected, or that the majority of us think it shouldn't or won't happen. I've been "rejected" by guys in a number of situations, in most of them I was disappointed but polite about it and in all of them, everyone moved on. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:02 PM
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One hundred percent what you said ^
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:15 AM
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My experience has taught me that each person who wishes to be seen as an adult must fight their own battles and paddle their own canoe to some degree, or else it's big trouble. IMO unwanted sexual attention from someone is a "your own battle" unless you ask for help. And it's very easy to ask for help as a lady in many situations even if you aren't there "with" someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:03 PM
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Well anyone who wants to sleep with tons of people just shouldn't lock themselves into monogamy until they have changed their mind or... Worked something out with their partner somehow? I can imagine someone who felt they had a huge amount of that kind of energy in a "monogamish" relationship (credit Dan Savage for the word)and that being healthy and within reasonable boundaries for both people. Edit: Or a dynamic like that weird Milan Kundera short story where the young couple pretends not to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:42 PM
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I kind of ignored those because I wouldn't do those things. I'm not super decisive but I also don't think I'm a huge complainer if my indecision leads to something I didn't want - I do absolutely recognize what you're talking about and that's something that hopefully most people work through when they are young. If someone's hitting on me and my partner is there, I might not behave exactly as my partner expects me to. But in my case, that probably means I'm either shutting down to plan my escape…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:29 PM
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Well, whatever the genders are, the "new" person is going to have less to contribute in a group like that. If everyone's just having fun, I agree that maybe this hypothetical new individual should be more submissive. However if it is as you describe and the guys start discussing women or something that affects us, and she has an opinion? I would not advocate for her to be submissive. For the sake of an example I'm going to get really specific and uncomfortable. Example: the seven guys are shooti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:09 PM
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Oh sure I can. I just don't gender it as much as you do. I think women in particular should act submissive if it makes them safer or they think it will, for whatever reason. I don't think there's another time when I would say "should" about that, I really think it's down to the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:52 PM
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...I don't think men and women are the same. It's why I fucking love the wheel of time book series even though it contains some anti-trans BS that probably snuck in there from the author's prejudices. We aren't the same but I find it counterproductive to come up with a prescriptive set of behaviors, especially since there are many people who don't fit perfectly into these "not the same" two boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:44 PM
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Oh. I thought you were comparing being submissive by choice when you feel like it to getting real fat and having a heart attack, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:37 PM
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Ok.... We aren't talking about cheeseburgers. We're talking about behavior and when it's good to be submissive and when it's good to stand up for oneself. You asked a pretty weird loaded question so I'll ask one back. When should a man be submissive? When should a woman be aggressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:29 PM
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...when should a woman be submissive? Absolutely not ever towards a person, particularly a man, who wants to hurt her. Otherwise, whenever she goddamn feels like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:22 PM
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I think you mean "complementary" ..what you wrote means something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:19 PM
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You also haven't said when people should be submissive, or less assertive. When...they're actually that way or something makes them want to be? I don't know. I'm not over here making up rules for how everyone should behave I just fucking hate the red pill. Not a giant fan of FDS either but I don't have experience with their tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:12 PM
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I didn't say everyone should always be aggressive. I didn't like the way you were talking about a woman "making" a man hurt her. That sounds bad to me. Not trolling, just different from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 07:03 PM
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People's experiences are a real thing, as a "listener" you may have learned this. Anyone who gets really into "negging" new people, or is very suspicious of a new person's connections with any others, or wants a lot of "order" and submissiveness from women or who thinks that women don't actually know what they want (instead of understanding that what's true is that sometimes people don't know what they want) is exhibiting signs that I call "red pill red flags"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:42 PM
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My examples and my opinion are from my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:35 PM
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Old article, but, this guy: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2015/10/14/10-years-ago-neil-strauss-was-a-pickup-artist-now-hes-a-committed-husband/ His book was called "The Game" and he eventually renounced his own invented philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:35 PM
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Just because you aren't seeing something doesn't make it not there. Also....I told you, I really think FDS is bad!! And to some degree violent!! I'm just not as confident to speak on that. And, good day to you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:27 PM
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Ok but like you said, good humans don't want to hurt each other, and we should seek out people who are good, in general and to us. I don't think we're disagreeing on much, except my pov that the red pill is very disgusting and correlates to violence. I don't need you to agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:21 PM
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Yes. Usually not someone I just met that day haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:06 PM
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O.o That sounds very unhealthy. I'm concerned with how you specify that you haven't been violent with a "baby" human...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:02 PM
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Nothing's wrong with having a preference, and I can't imagine anyone having a preference for an actual cold eyed FDS gold digger lol The guy who came up with this entire "game" ideology and was one of the first to publish about it really really hates it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:01 PM
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I'll ask you to ask yourself why it resonates and examine it carefully then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:53 PM
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Ooh. Women frustrate men to the point of the man hitting them. Hm... Violence is bad. I say, the red pill excuses and in fact glorifies the kind of behavior that correlates heavily with violence. FDS probably does too, I just don't have the experience that would allow me to assert that I think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:50 PM
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I am telling you, it's not benign. There's a lot on there (FDS and TRP) that's bad but you might have to search for it. I agree that emotional and psychological violence exists and is also bad. Physical scars may heal but a dead person does not come back to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:35 PM
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No, I'll try to explain a little better what I mean. I've seen people say, separately and on different specific topics, about both the red pill and FDS, "go look at their sub, it's completely fine" Surface level, as far as I can tell, this is actually true. Advice on taking care of yourself so you look more attractive. Telling people not to seem too interested in a new partner too quickly (RP) or to make someone "prove" how much they actually want to date you (FDS) is a bit creepy but not a big …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:23 PM
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Oh God. Reiki. Hokay. Sorry but that's hilarious because of some of what I've seen, I'm sure your practice is really fulfilling and has positive effects for you. That's nice you listen. Don't listen to the red pill. Pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:03 PM
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I know that about the red pill. Believe it or not I've studied this crap but uh... Not because I feel like I need it personally :/ I'm just a weirdo. Surface level, I see red pill and FDS as extremely similar. Very good for people who are somewhat insecure and have felt unsuccessful at dating to gather some tips on confidence, valuing yourself, etc. But both of those communities, if you dig a bit deeper, have a very rotten inside. I see the red pill's inner core as more rotten, sorry. It's becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:01 PM
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...I didn't say anything about all women being perfect or good, or it being impossible for them to be selfish and gross. My point was about how disgusting red pill tactics are. If you like feminine energy so much you could try listening to some of the women you like instead of focusing so much on the possibility that we could be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:50 PM
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Well you said that women "can be" immature. You called me immature, indirectly, I'm assuming because I made it clear that I think red pill is disgusting. We could communicate, I suppose, but I don't really want to clear things up with you since we've barely spoken and you've already called me stupid and immature for having experiences and opinions that affect what I might say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:46 PM
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No, it's gross the way you talk. When you were replying to me above. About how someone who's "mature" will never "know your teachings" It's disgusting. Everyone has feelings, did you know that you have them too??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:43 PM
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Bet you I know some things you don't. You're a horrifying person, please don't ever talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:40 PM
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No no, not trying to be cute. You're not as mysterious and appealing as you think. It's gross and in general we can see through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:39 PM
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I'm not lecturing, I'm writing on reddit. For me personally, feminism existing and these ideas being available to everyone has had a large positive effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:13 PM
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This is an interesting point of view. Do you have an example of "anti male" legislation that you'd like to share ..?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:12 PM
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I don't think I understand how your comment relates to what I wrote. Maybe I'm just too dense and womanly to grasp your superior, mature red pill intellect 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:11 PM
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The only real way to fix it all is to get rid of the rat race, completely, but that’s a whole other conversation entirely. IMO it turns out to be the same conversation when you get right down to it :) good luck!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:35 AM
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It was how it sounded to me. I'm sorry your experience has been that way. I want to clarify that I don't mean to say that I don't believe you, just that it seemed to me like there could be more to the story. It seemed like bitterness because it sounds like you're painting a lot of people with the same brush after a bad experience. Lazy people definitely exist and I agree that a lazy, deceitful, or selfish person can come from any background. The concept of privilege (whether it's based in wealth…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:22 AM
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I find it kind of hard to believe that you were told you can't be promoted because you're white. If that is true, well then I'm sorry that happened to you but honestly, it sounds pretty unlikely. It also sounds like this might have come up in the context of you putting down other peoples' work, possible that this attitude rubbed your bosses the wrong way if they felt differently from you about the merits of their other employees? And... coupled with your story of being the best at your job while…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:53 AM
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I'm not here to lecture, and I think men should be included in the "work" of feminism. It's a mistake to push them out. I don't think there needs to be multiple separate movements for equality that you join depending on who you are.. in fact that seems counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:46 AM
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Some people are poor. Many white people are poor, and are from families that have been poor for generations. I made up the cake thing just now, to overexplain my point, but the cake (the privileges, the access to this mystery of perfect equality) is not only about monetary wealth, generational or otherwise. Also, tangentially, I don't think every rich person who had their "cake" made for them is actually all that happy. Their lives might be easier in many ways, but they are just as likely to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:58 AM
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Everyone has their own agenda, and we all give a damn over those things that matter to us. For what it's worth I didn't see our conversation as an argument, more of a discussion. I have hope for the present and the future in terms of this discussion, because I can see how much more freedom of expression and potential for change there is now than, for example, when my mom was a kid in the US in the 1960s and wasn't allowed to wear jeans to school, while the boys could wear whatever they wanted. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:30 AM
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Well, it sounds like you're observing that in practice. I don't see it the same way. White cis men have, over a long period of time, become very used to being perceived and treated as having more status, better prospects, and more inherent value than everyone else. They've had this for a long time, and it often disturbs them to feel like it is being "taken away." Feminism doesn't support the point of view that men are better than women or superior to women. For whatever reason, a lot of people o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:25 AM
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It doesn't say that, but you are entitled to your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:50 AM
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The idea of a utopia is, in my opinion, inherently unrealistic because humans are very good at and even enjoy conflict. We actually, in my observations, get sort of sad and depressed when there are zero conflicts available 😅 BUT also in my observations, if we (men and women, for the sake of this discussion) accept that it's possible to work together for common goals... these "hierarchies" that you recognize could become healthier and more beneficial to everyone without having to disappear. I agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:16 AM
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Uh, we can ask the same question, I guess, but the answers are going to be wildly different. Feminism is for everyone and doesn't actually have a goal of excluding or limiting men from holding power and agency in society and relationships, rather it seeks to include women (and intersectional feminism seeks to include racial and gender and sexual minorites) in all the places where these groups have historically been left out. Men sometimes dislike this and feel it is unfair to them, but imo this …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:46 PM
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Anyone who was calling themselves a "red pill man" I wouldn't touch with a twenty foot pole. On the other hand, if I was hypothetically dating again, getting to know a person who had at some point gained some tips and self improvement/confidence advice from the more innocent side of the whole red pill community... I would have no problem with that. But a person who has gotten deep enough into all that shit to be someone who'd state "I'm a red pill man"??? Gross, nope, next 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:33 PM
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How... Can you tell? Since, you know, that isn't a thing. Even with wolves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:33 AM
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Yeye. I also like the handful of ladies who've reclaimed the "lots of cats" thing for their flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:48 PM
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Yep. Also, Post Wall Stacy might be the most hilarious user flair I've seen here, just sayin 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:30 PM
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Well you know where the community is if you ever start to feel like this 666 King thing is a little too oppressive or limiting for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:23 PM
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Did you know that this is also considered the number of the beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:17 PM
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Oh. I see. Scheherazade, 911.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:11 PM
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So... Kings but not Queens. I'm concerned about who taught you these rules. Did you come up with it on your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:03 PM
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...this is hard for me to wrap my brain around. Is this really how you see yourself...?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:52 PM
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Wow this is... Extremely creepy. Sorry. Not saying you're creepy. Just, the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:43 PM
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Fucking nope not in here. I'm about done attempting to speak with these dudes tbh. Expressing that women have rights and should get the choice about what to do with their own body just gains you a pile of arguments with creepy, rapey men. The other day a guy on here said to me that my opinions on the "inherent value" of female virginity were worthless. Guess why? Because I'm a woman. When I pointed out this was creepy and weird for him to take that angle, a different guy starting arguing with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:02 PM
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Also men take sounds gross and rapey. Not to be harsh, but gross. Thank you. Some sanity here in this ridiculous zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:35 PM
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Then, congrats, you're a bad person! Have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:31 PM
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No you're assholes for using all the info you can gather about other people to use and exploit them. Even that Neal Strauss guy hates this shit now and he pretty much created it...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:06 PM
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Your interests are what ever they are. Plenty of men want to have a family. Most people don't want to be lied to/cheated on. Plenty of men knowingly raise children who aren't their bio kids and afaik many of them do a fine job at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:11 PM
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That uh, does not sound good to me. Have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:40 PM
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Then they should examine them selves, or perhaps you should adjust your expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:38 PM
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...it's a haphazard world friend. The position I'm taking is that some women are "modern" and others are "traditional" and that's their choice to make. Men get to make that choice also.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:37 PM
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Deception isn't good. I think that whoever you are, there are various levels of deception. It's not a good idea to go around deceiving everyone, no one will trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:35 PM
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...I am not too down with the clown. Those guys are alright tho :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:30 PM
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...I am having a hard time getting past your invention of a goat sacrifice to reply to your comment, it's a little too hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:30 PM
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I can't speak for all women but I haven't divorced anyone or used them for dinner dates. Also many women I know are financially independent and don't mind paying on dates. Back when I was dating I often paid for myself or with a longer term connection, alternated paying with my dates. I don't claim to be typical but I can't really argue those other points on expectations with you based on my own experience and that of the people I know. Have you had all women you've been out with insist that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:15 PM
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Yeah... the complexity of life is amazing :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:11 PM
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Great, that's fine. Marriage is a big commitment. If you're with someone that you have to pretend to be committed to, that's probably not a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:53 PM
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Yes of course everyone has the right to change their mind. But you're talking about saying "I'm committed to you babe" and then changing your mind immediately after sex. I don't care personally, because I'm married. I'm not in any danger myself, either physically or emotionally from your proposed approach. I still think it's weird and immoral to treat people that way and not care that it will hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:52 PM
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Well this isn't true in my experience. I know a lot of men who want commitment from their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:47 PM
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Some of you guys make it so incredibly obvious that you don't care about other humans at all, only about getting what you personally want. Lawyering your way into the most sex with the most hot women possible. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:43 PM
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Why can't a male avoid having sex until he is married? Dumb question, no reason why either of them should unless they're religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:39 PM
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A very ridiculous, stupid, and loophole heavy form of commitment. Why not just be honest and say you can't commit? Oh right, less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:33 PM
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No, not at all. I don't know why a bunch of people are trying to twist my words into that. That would be deceptive and bad. No one should do it. No one should be going around assaulting and raping people either and these guys are all bringing that up as an equivalent. I find that to be wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:31 PM
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No, not once. Women are in danger of this all the time. I'm not a psychopath. I haven't taken anyone's chance to have children. Pretty sure most women aren't out there doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:29 PM
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I don't think you're interpreting my comments correctly. I have empathy for men who are actually in the situation where a partner has lied to them and been unfaithful. I think a lot of men are terrified of this for little reason, I don't get why it's such a big fear when it seems like a fairly uncommon thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:57 AM
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No, I have empathy for men, and the male perspective. I am finding your specific comments (and those from a few other guys in this sub) really extremely gross and not at all like what I've ever heard from most men that are generally respectful and kind to others. I'm pretty sure I don't need more of your mental health advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:40 AM
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I am not a sociopath nor do I lack empathy. I just don't place the huge importance on money that you seem to. Oh, and on making sure your family is "yours" Sounds possessive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:28 AM
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I think the usual advice I see on this sub when someone is confused by the weird terminology is "run away" Perhaps we both ought to take this advice :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:27 AM
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Why? I don't think people should lie to each other. I'm sure you've been lied to. I have as well. It isn't fun. It's also not the same and imo not as bad as having your personal space and safety violated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:12 AM
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I'm not really sure why you're talking like I said paternity fraud is good. It's not good. I don't condone it. It just isn't something I think about or care about a lot.. sorry. I also don't think lying in your relationship and committing various types of financial crimes are in any way in the level of assault or rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:06 AM
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It's the number of people you've had sex with. I think. I'm having a hard time understanding why it matters so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:00 AM
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All of that is fine but when guys get really resentful of women for actually using the only real power we have had for some time... It rankles a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:25 AM
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No, I don't think so. It's not fraud for a child to not be your bio kid. It's bad to lie. But it's not fraud. I've had people take money from me and take too long to pay me for work, etc. Didn't fume, just dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:23 AM
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I always want to understand. It's schizophrenia. He takes his meds and we do okay. Thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:20 AM
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I don't care about that cause it honestly doesn't seem that bad to me. It isn't something I've done, don't know anyone who has done it or experienced it. I do know a number of people, including myself, who've been raped. Hm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:12 AM
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Well all that makes sense. It's similar to my views, but I've been with more people than you'd find ideal. My husband and I have been together for a long time, married since 2015, and he accuses me of some pretty wild stuff due to his illness, but I stick with him anyway. Just so you understand where I'm coming from. Not a lying cheater, nor a super secret government spy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:10 AM
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But... Women have these biological urges and instincts as well. We all just have to find ways to make decisions that will work for our own individual lives and selves. I don't think we're exactly born with a "type" but maybe you and I differ in that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:05 AM
1

Well, I'm not saying "just do it, get with someone who cheats on you" But it's possible that each of us could be betrayed in love. It's possible our partner could get sick, or hurt. Some of these things are more "preventable" than others sure, but nothing in life is certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:03 AM
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I don't say any of those things. I think people should meet each other where they are, and decide if they want to spend time together. Not base that decision on how many other connections their potential partner has had or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:01 AM
1

"A whore" is a disrespectful term for a sex worker. Is it bad to do sex work? If you're a woman, if you're a man? Caring about how many people your partner has been with is fine. I'm objecting to the large number of men on here saying that it's worse for women to have a high number.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:38 AM
1

No one should ignore their fears, they help us. Some fears are in fact irrational. Some fears may be rational but.. It's better to do it than live with the fear of it. Logen Ninefingers/Joe Abercrombie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:32 AM
1

Women aren't venomous snakes... Men kind of act like them sometimes tho. Margaret Atwood again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:18 AM
1

I'm not trying to control any man's preferences. Just saying it's messed up to disrespect people just because they don't fit your personal preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 03:11 AM
2

Right, and I've had them. It's the extreme emphasis people in this community are placing on it that is utterly baffling to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:31 AM
1

Yes but the idea of saying, as a prerequisite to dating someone "how many people have you been with then" it just seems... Ridiculous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:28 AM
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I don't understand why you're saying it increases the likelihood to cheat. It doesn't, in my experience. People who have had a lot of sex often "settle down" as they get older, they don't always. They're not necessarily going to become cheaters if they weren't already.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:26 AM
1

Uh... Ok. I'm not that interested in paternity fraud but you clearly are. I do not think it's necessary to speak the way that you are. There's no secret society of women out to punish and "get" and trick men. Some people do gross, immoral stuff. Women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:09 AM
1

Wow you really suck. Getting raped and helping take care of a kid are nothing like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:38 AM
1

It's not a problem. Fathers are raising kids that "might not" be theirs. Always been a possibility, never been that big a deal imo 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 12:19 AM
2

Having had more sex with more people doesn't really have a bearing on whether anyone will be more faithful. That depends on the person/people and the agreements of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:39 PM
2

Maybe they do. I don't usually think about number of sex partners when I'm considering other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:34 PM
2

I disagree with you on pretty much everything, it looks like. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:03 PM
2

It isn't about lying or pretending or forcing anyone else to do anything - people have the right to be who they are and live as they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:56 PM
2

...no one's asking you to flip reality. I'm not sure where that's coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:51 PM
1

If you're raising a child they're your child I'd say, and I don't know where you're getting this 10% I don't think people should cheat on or lie to their partners whatever gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:46 PM
1

Why do you think I'm referencing leftist propaganda? Trans people are real and they aren't asking for much from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:45 PM
1

I didn't make it up... Science is on my side these days, at least as far as agreeing that it helps people stay alive to transition socially and/or medically, if they're experiencing the kind of problems many people do before they're able to transition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:42 PM
1

I'm talking about trans women. They're women and not every one is the proud owner of a vagina or even plans to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:37 PM
1

Not every woman has a vagina ...or are you also in line with the TERFs as well as the misogynists...?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:31 PM
1

You're pretty confused about what women want. I'll tell you a secret: we don't all want the same things!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:26 PM
1

I don't think men and women are exactly the same. I do think it's weird for you to say women don't want sex. We definitely do. Some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:18 PM
1

Yes we do you weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:15 PM
1

I don't think every woman who has a lot of sex is behaving badly. Many people are able to do that without lying, cheating, or hurting anyone. Men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:06 PM
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No, I don't think you're correct in your analysis of biology and women, it's annoying me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:00 PM
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No, not exactly. I was mostly making fun of your typo in your previous reply, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:47 PM
2

How you respond to me is pissing me off because you're judging all women negatively on a different standard from men "because biology"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:40 PM
2

I don't understand how you think you know how I behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:36 PM
2

We're not fundamental laws, we're subject to them. I don't think you understand nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:29 PM
1

I've only ever had one body, my own. What I choose to do with it is up to me, men have absolutely no right to tell me what's "bad" for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:28 PM
5

Huh. Interesting. I thought I was real. Ah well, nice to chat with you Skin Horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:27 PM
5

I understand this is what you guys think. I severely disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:17 PM
2

Ok then. Cats are a fine example, they just scream in the night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:16 PM
4

That it matters to some how much sex their partner has had before. To others, nbd. Its ok to be either way in terms of partner preference but please don't be a dick about it and call people whores and sluts for having a higher "number." It is mean and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:16 PM
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I've seen the red pill guys saying that right here on this sub... Men don't need to all have the same standards. They don't all have the same standards. Amazingly, neither do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:11 PM
3

I just disagree with calling everyone who's had a bunch of sex "whores and sluts" That seems disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:09 PM
5

Oh, well don't let me be the one to force you into mentioning Fight Club 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:07 PM
2

I don't think you've studied a lot of history..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:06 PM
1

I am not "promiscuous" myself, in that I am in a monogamous marriage and don't have sex with anyone but my husband. That wasn't always my relationship situation, and I don't think it's bad for women or men to have had a large number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:05 PM
3

Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:02 PM
5

Yes!! It doesn't stop you from being a loving father to have children that aren't biologically yours. No one even has to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:00 PM
2

It's just very disrespectful language. It was surprising but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:58 PM
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No it's normal it just... Isn't the way I'd approach the conversation, using weird lingo and getting all intense about it. I guess I'm just a slut whore lying female who doesn't have any value 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:50 PM
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But apes and lizards aren't the same as each other, or us. Whores and sluts is fine, I guess, it just seemed like a sudden...turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:48 PM
4

God heights are terrifying. I will climb a tree but do not make me look over a cliff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:41 PM
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I've seen n count, seen body count, I find all of it weird. Not my style to interrogate others about their past, people tell me the things they feel comfortable talking about. I would never get in someone's face and try to find out how many ppl they've had sex with... Jesus! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:40 PM
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Wow, why are you suddenly saying whores and sluts? There's no "end goal" of a perfect being that will end evolution. The lizard brain argument seems dumb to me, we aren't lizards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:37 PM
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Fear is fine. Treating people badly because you're afraid is unfair to other people and unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:36 PM
1

I'm saying, loyalty is unconnected to "body count" (jfc you guys have the worst terminology)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:30 PM
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My completely serious answer is that they truly believe women are a hamster monolith that lies constantly and communicates internally, like the Borg.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:29 PM
1

I'm not promiscuous. I'm married. I'm also not lying or oblivious to reality. Your statements about women are really disturbing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:25 PM
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Go read some Darwin, buddy. Evolution is complicated and doesn't have a "goal" Humans evolved to work together as well as compete. Many other social animals are like this. There are a lot of different ways to do society. The one we have now, it's not allowed to be in control of other people's sexuality. So men should stop trying to do that to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:24 PM
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But a lot of men are sure. Either because they never doubted, or their fears weren't reality. And besides the fact that kids look like their parents (motherfucking magnets how do they work lol) we have these magical science things, if anyone really wanted to find out for sure without involving any lying females 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:20 PM
2

Your comments reveal that you are making things up about me and give me a strong feeling that you really hate women! Are you ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:15 PM
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Yeah I get that part of it. But as far as I know, caring about who fathered which child is kind of an agriculture thing. You know, cultural more than biological. If the forest is where the whole group gets it's food, we all protect the forest, whoever is our parent. If we want to make sure our farm does better than our neighbors... Things get a little more competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:14 PM
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I have some deep personal experience with how embedded this can be in the psyche of men. I don't get it but I do understand that it is a real fear. Fear itself is nothing to be ashamed of or worried by though.. feeling deep fear just means that you have been given the opportunity to show that you are also smart and brave :D
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:06 PM
1

... My family has faced challenges that I'd rather not share with you but we do plan to stick together. Why are you so certain that my behavior is immoral based on the comments I've made here...?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:04 PM
2

It really sounds like you've already found it bud. Ferrets are adorable, but don't they smell?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:53 PM
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I'm pretty sure this "piece of shit misogynist Hitler" joke has played itself out for you. You should find your commune, now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:47 PM
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This "cuckolding fear" is so odd. Most women do not want to be with someone who would cheat on us. Even people I know who are poly have been cheated on in the sense that their agreed arrangements were broken, and it was hurtful to them and they were sad about it. But..in my experience, we (women) don't sit around being scared of this all the time. Thinking "What if he cheats" ..Men on the other hand seem to be constantly terrified of the idea of their partner getting sex elsewhere, or thinking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:46 PM
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Hm yes I think so. I haven't seen either the old or the new Ghostbusters 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:28 PM
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The whole time you were in bed you were being a man!! We don't allow that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:19 PM
1

Wow, you sound vampiric. Gross. I bet you have a nice picture in your attic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:30 AM
1

Well, I don't really struggle with body image but some people do. You could try being less of a giant jerk some time, it couldn't possibly hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:28 AM
1

Hm. How does it feel to be a horrifying person ..?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:44 PM
8

Have you heard of body neutrality? We don't have to feed ourselves toxic positivity to have a realistic appreciation and respect for the body we each have to live in and the things it can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:33 PM
1

Ok well I don't have a comment about the French president and his wife.. since I just found out she's a creepy pedo just like my ex!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:14 AM
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I guess when someone is an adult and a skeleton is brought out of the closet from when they were a teen ..it seems a little different? Doesn't make it not wrong, just, its a bit hard to do anything about it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:45 AM
1

...I do not support the childhood rape of french presidents although I have been accused of being a "lefty"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:40 AM
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Glad it helped. Any time you want to chat about dating or relationships my inbox is open. I have a fairly egalitarian marriage, we have each worked and taken care of our kids at different points. Even if you're looking for something more "traditional" than what we are doing, it's no big deal that you're starting up a little later. The right partner is the person you feel comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:35 AM
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I think your worries make sense and there's no need to rush. On the other hand, try to worry a bit less and enjoy yourself with getting to know people if you can. Hopefully the process of dating and eventually finding a partner you want to stick with will involve joy as well as anxiety and nervous "butterflies" I had my first child at your age, so I may not be the greatest person to give advice. However I don't think there's anything to be ashamed about with being a "late bloomer" of any gender.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:04 AM
4

Such a mystery 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:51 AM
1

Ok...? You're certainly not required to agree with me, but amazingly, you being older than you used to be does not affect what I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:47 PM
1

15-16 is too young for anyone over 18. You aren't going to change most people's minds about this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:36 PM
1

What makes sense, refusing to get married if you aren't allowed to rape your wife? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:25 PM
3

I will believe the men themselves when bad stuff is coming out of their mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:30 PM
2

I absolutely do not think every Indian man is like this. I don't think this is an India thing as much as it is a global thing but it's an example I read recently that came to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:30 PM
1

No, I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:28 PM
6

Someone replied to this with an extremely creepy and rapey comment but it has disappeared. Something about being married or even being alone with a man = consenting to sex. Wtf??!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:28 PM
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No I'm not insulting India. I read there was a "marriage strike" I thought "hm maybe women are tired of the way they are treated in marriages" But no, the first article I found has quotes from guys complaining that they will have no power to sex their arranged marriage wife without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:22 PM
2

Oh, would you like to explain? I was disturbed by the story because I had assumed "marriage strike" would mean something else, and I didn't look very deep into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:18 PM
6

In India they're refusing to get married because marital rape was made illegal 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:02 PM
6

It was wild!! Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:37 PM
3

After we broke up he was like "we're not having sex yet" and I pretty much just stuck my fingers in my ears and walked away D:
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:24 PM
1

Manage risk however you like ..but imo it'll become difficult to sustain human connection if you only ever have feelings by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:50 PM
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15 years old isn't normal when the other person is 29 This was more in disgust than rage, whatever it is you think I'm feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:48 PM
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He's one of many people I remember, I mostly only think of him when I feel compelled to tell my age gap story Ty for your concern tho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:35 PM
15

That's mean and gross for you to say!! He is not someone I want anywhere near me. I fell off a roof and almost died and he didn't care :) We're still fb friends tho because if I unfriend him he messages and asks me why and I do not wish to speak with the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:29 PM
3

If the rest of reddit is 70-80 percent men (random guess) then maybe relationships with close to 50/50 is actually one of the more balanced big subs out there!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:03 PM
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Ya but before that he was my boyfriend :D I probably should have reported him but I didn't exactly know who to call or what to say. As far as I know they're still together, 10 years later... 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:59 PM
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The age gap thing is tricky. It can be okay. It can be very not My worst age gap story is about the 29 year old boyfriend I had (I was 24) who told me one day that we were breaking up. I was sad, asked why. Turns out he really wanted to pursue a new romantic relationship, with a fifteen year old who was friends with his little brother. He was a substitute teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:47 PM
1

That's extremely sad, why does this sub make me feel bad for these guys??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:36 PM
2

Well .... It seems a bit complicated for the player as well. Maybe I'm naive but why not just be real?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:29 PM
5

That sounds complicated and dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:12 PM
1

Oh, I'm in the us too I know it's hard. I also understand that therapists are human. I think it makes them better at their job. We also have friends and family, which are different from therapists and do not cost money. Self reflection is fine. Solipsism is no way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:11 PM
3

In this, the best of all worlds..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:52 PM
0

Yeah, ok, Some Stuff definitely is for solitude or gasp therapy. But negative emotions are a true fact of life and sharing some of them with people you spend time with and live with is kind of inevitable. This "only be sad in private it's the safest way" thing is wild to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:47 PM
3

We have to worry, it's a survival skill! Margaret Atwood was correct when she said that men are afraid women will laugh at them, while women are afraid men will kill them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:05 PM
1

Then I'd always be wondering what is happening. Don't want to live like that at all!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:02 PM
2

Lmao Gossip girl is something I've never read or watched because it sounds so stupid, so I have no arguments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:01 PM
2

None of that sounds like manipulation. Also, playing games and taking vacations together wouldn't be fun for me if I thought the other person was going to spend the whole time hiding how they felt should it happen to be negative. I do think I would eventually know if someone I was very close to was hiding all their negative emotions. If it was a random acquaintance, I might notice but not care a huge amount. From my experience of being married for a number of years, I can usually tell if my part…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:46 PM
2

My mom's neighbor is kind of like that. I think part of this gossip stereotype comes from something that I think is partly true - that often women are more social and talkative with each other than men. But if a guy hears (or invents lol) something very exciting.. he will tell it, like you did :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:38 PM
2

Lol. Cards against humanity is fun. I gotta say the expectation of extreme control over your emotional state sounds really unhealthy. What are your emotions doing without you? I disagree with your statement that that's what "men do" Most of the men I know who are happy in their lives are able to acknowledge and recognize their emotions, especially with the people they're close with. We all have to keep our most intense emotions under some form of control.. but never letting them out is a disaste…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:31 PM
2

Tell me about the most gossipy women you know and make it worth my while, this better be juicy 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:24 PM
1

Is "braking point" lingo or are you spelling break incorrectly..?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:21 PM
-1

I guess I didn't understand your joke, I thought you were accidentally proving yourself wrong. Men gossip more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:20 PM
5

Well no one wants to hear another person constantly spill everything that's in their mind. But to say that men shouldn't be vulnerable and open with their partners because it would make the relationship "boring" sounds very stupid and pick-up artist to me. It's no way to live to be constantly controlling your reactions and emotions just so that your partner will somehow continue to be attracted to nothing but how mysterious and creepy you are able to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:19 PM
2

Why do you say it's not true? You don't think men gossip?? They def gossip.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:14 PM
3

Gossip is not exclusive to women, men constantly gossip as well fyi It's all "the red pill" is: the gossip of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:06 PM
1

Shallow women, huh. What's your interest in this community then? Just research? I'm here to marvel at the weirdness. You seem really discouraged, and I wish you had more hope for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:37 PM
1

Ok, well, I will assert that the magic you're working right now when you talk like that is the opposite of the "magic" that could help you form human connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:34 PM
1

You're welcome. I know some incredibly ugly and incredibly short people in loving relationships. Just fyi. It's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:32 PM
1

... this is a pretty weird belief my friend. I talked to someone else with this perspective about a month ago and he enjoyed the story I told him about where hope comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:31 PM
1

Well no, magic isn't real. I think. You're real though, and so am I. DM if you would like to join my discord server which is for talking about books and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:29 PM
1

That you don't have to be 6'3" to get into a relationship/date/whatever you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:28 PM
1

My dad is exactly 6'3" My husband is slightly under 6 feet. He isn't ugly but he certainly has problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:26 PM
1

Defining yourself in that way seems like really damaging negative self talk to me. It sounds like your pessimistic outlook is ruining your chances at least as much as your physical appearance is. How tall do you think you'd need to be in order to have the success you are looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:23 PM
1

Hm. When did you start calling yourself shortcel? Like, what age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:20 PM
2

Well with that attitude perhaps. I do hope that it starts going better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:16 PM
3

There are v short women!! Also I just saw someone on here the other day saying she's particularly attracted to guys that are shorter than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:14 PM
4

Red Pill is confused. Women are human and each of us like different things. Those of us who like men understand that men are human as well. Red pill would do well to remember that we are people, not hamsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:11 PM
7

I don't think you're in danger of being called nice lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:58 PM
1

Because they don't want to date homeboy up above either, unless they're also gay Just use the right terms for the right people and if you make a mistake say "oops I meant she" or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:02 PM
-2

Fucking stahp the "dude in a dress" stuff It is disrespectful to both trans ppl and those men who enjoy cross dressing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:34 PM
1

...this thread wins the "biggest dumpster fire I've ever seen" award Jesus H Christ 😬😬😬
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:29 PM
1

Showing vulnerability is a valid way to get to know someone, often they'll do it back. Using this as a "shit test" is fucked I think it's super gross to be vulnerable with someone (this is the kind of brave behavior that tends to foster genuine human connection) purely as a "shit test" Gah. This fucking sub my fairy godmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:18 PM
5

I mean... It's the opinion of a lot of ppl, not just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:55 PM
10

The problem with red pill can very easily be summed up with a quote from the big Lebowski "You're not wrong, you're just an AH"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:24 AM
1

I checked it out the other day, too busy for me to stick around and keep reading but not the "worst" I've seen. I think having a bunch of channels makes a pretty big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:19 PM
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Wait, are red pillers suddenly a protected class or something? This sub is weird af
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:27 PM
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Ok..? I don't really post here only comment. Why did he think it was cool to say the other commenter's SO is the "opposite of an attractive woman" That seems gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:24 PM
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..did you mean to reply to me? A little confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:05 PM
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OT but.. pumpkin spice pill, I love that 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:03 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:44 PM
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Aw, you two sound rly cool 😎 Vulnerability and hard work will take you far in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:37 PM
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Wow u r gross! Congrats?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:33 PM
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Um yeeeeaahh I gotta disagree with calling his rapey plans "artistry" sry
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 06:26 PM
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I think it's a lot easier to tell right away that you don't like a person (to date, or just as a person) than that you do like them "enough" to spend more time and energy getting to know them. I'm also pretty sure both decisions can be proven "wrong" easily and quickly.. so it's not necessarily a great strategy to attribute too much meaning to the first 5-17 seconds of knowing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:24 AM
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Oh ok, the left sounds busy It's what I remember, that those guys liked him a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:40 AM
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He was one of their heroes until he got arrested. I know we aren't supposed to use lingo but can I say ER 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:26 AM
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You haven't heard of roosh, are you like rly young...? It was a pretty gross internet drama llama 🦙gathering when he went down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:22 AM
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I have the opposite of skin hunger bc two small children 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:19 AM
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It sounds like kind of a hard job. "Intimacy work" sounds more challenging than sex work, to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:17 AM
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The professional cuddler thing is something I heard about a few years ago, I thought was a joke at first. I was pleased to discover it is legit, just prob not really common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:04 AM
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Punish which thinking..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:22 PM
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He should.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:39 PM
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No no I don't think a sexual market place is sad. The idea of viewing this bizarre bazaar as purely transactional seems sad to me. I told him that hope was down at the bottom of the box, after Pandora stupidly set all the bad shit free.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:38 PM
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I won't say you should ignore that if it seems relevant to you, I will ask you to clarify what you mean by "naturally" though. Funny, the young man I talked to about Pandora was concerned over his height as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:20 PM
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I'm married, and I try not to let this create disturbances or issues within that, but it's a tricky situation for a number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:54 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:10 PM
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Ahahahaha! If I lose very much weight I'll die ☠️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:08 PM
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Um. As long as you aren't going to try to make me run anyone over with it... sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:04 PM
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Lol nope Just major depressive disorder and anxiety. Again, thank you for your concern, troll-y as it is 😬🕯️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:58 PM
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Can I order the copy pasta or did you write this?!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:57 PM
2

Yes well. Some of us are impaired in that area.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:54 PM
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Yesssss Noooooo :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:00 PM
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Update: u/heyitsjeape has joined my shiny new discord server.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:58 PM
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Sorry I'm new I'll edit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:21 PM
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I hope it works out soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:56 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Can you think of anything that could happen that would change your mind about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:54 PM
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Leo Tolstoy 🙄 Actually that's wrong, this statement is backwards to "happy is all the same"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:47 PM
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No females interested in meeting someone eh? Willing to expand upon that statement, friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:46 PM
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Yeah... I tried and almost barfed haha He's 100% not for me. But maybe I'll try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:37 PM
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This is true and I think part of it is related to different styles of seeking relationships. This isn't a gendered thing, imo, but I know some here will disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:25 PM
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Yeah that's one of the things I hate. I don't think I'm just snipping things tho I watched Natalie Wynn's whole video on him :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:21 PM
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My problem with JP is he's giving some advise that's partly universal and kinda common sense and other advise which is really 20 years out of date. I feel like the people who take everything he says as gospel are going to end up very disappointed. Very interesting. Ty for sharing, I started ignoring him when I got too grossed out 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:15 PM
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I mean cleaning your room is a great plan!! Just don't expect to immediately be able to "get every girl and turn your life around" It will turn you into an incl, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:58 PM
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No silly. Stop. I don't really have too many health problems but ty for yr concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:57 PM
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Well a lot of people do care about those things. I don't think it makes you a "transactional relationships" person to have standards, boundaries, etc But when your whole outlook is "what I can get and what I will give to get it" hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:38 PM
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Well I'm glad he is doing that. I don't like to see them so lost and just because I disagree with JP doesn't mean he's not doing good work. ...has he recovered from his uh, drug problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:32 PM
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No no not blue to black. Messy room to red to black Look and you will see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:27 PM
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I am completely on board with "clean your room" What I see as the JP ---> RP ---> BP (black pill = "celibate and does not like it" for the purpose of shorthand here) "pipeline" (lol) doesn't happen overnight and I think some people might not know it is happening to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:19 PM
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Well ok We all have whatever we have and yeah, some parts of life are transactional. I think it's very sad to look at interpersonal relationships as nothing but transactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:13 PM
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No no The water is red pill, black pill, clean your room get wimmenz He denies that he leads people there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:11 PM
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Yeah again I don't hate the man personally. I think his hyperbole is a bit ridiculous. Someone put my issue with him really well the other day actually so I'll steal their words. JP will lead every horse in the world to water, he'll shove their face right in the river but he'll never admit he told them it was ok to drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:06 PM
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Ty, I am I actually don't completely disagree with it, I just think it's difficult, and might be harmful to some to keep repeating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:01 PM
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...who in the entire world would ever think anyone could be imprisoned for using the wrong pronouns for a person? Especially if it wasn't malicious. If it truly was malicious or hateful I guess can understand the idea of having to pay a fine or whatever. Is this a real thing that could happen? Somehow I don't think he believes he or anyone else will actually be imprisoned for this. He may have changed his position, I remember years ago him ridiculing the idea of anyone changing pronouns and sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:58 PM
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He could have changed his position on this because it's been a while, but I'm thinking of a few different things. The one that annoys me the most is his pompous refusal to accept gender neutral language. I think it's silly and arrogant of him to refuse to do something that would help a lot of people. He is supposed to be a teacher!! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:51 PM
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I don't hate him personally but I am very opposed to some of his views and I'm extremely wary of any person who claims to like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:48 PM
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I do agree with that perspective. I think it's important to remember that everyone else is probably in the same storm, if not the same boat, as you look for your "advantages" 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:34 PM
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Well that's a sad way to look at life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:29 PM
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Okay this has redeemed JP I hate him a little less now!!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:28 PM
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That's a bit arrogant, to assume you could never be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:23 PM
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Hahahahahahaha Ok buddy 😸
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:10 PM
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"What risk? That you don't put any effort into losing pregnancy weight after having a kid?" This is what pissed me off enough to bother you for this long. And I'm not even fat. You're just an ass hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:04 PM
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Not trolling, try rereading the comment chain from the beginning and maybe you'll see where I (we?) are coming from with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:02 PM
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You did! You brought it back to weight after she brought up risk (of weight gain among many other things)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:00 PM
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Not really. Only with people like you who like to fight, and say super gross things. Most of the time I'm very "pleasant"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:00 PM
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No. That you make a big deal over weight gain while ignoring and ridiculing the risk of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:58 PM
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Oh I'm no victim. It's the reason I get on here and fight with you dick heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:57 PM
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Maybe they're attractive to you but you don't gotta talk about women and pregnancy this way. You will never ever experience it. I also don't wanna argue with you anymore about what you said cause it wasn't that bad compared to some of the other fucking disturbing shit I am seeing in this sub...!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:57 PM
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No, you can stop. I don't like it when people "notice" that pregnancy affects us and then don't wanna hear from us about it. I find it gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:54 PM
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You didn't say that exact thing but you did get in her face about why she would mention pregnancy risks when you were talking about girls getting too fat to be attractive to you. They're real. They're not pretend or a strawman and there's a spectrum. It pretty much runs from "your body will be a little different" to "death for you and your baby/just your partner/just the baby" Depending on who you are, where you live, and how it goes for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:52 PM
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Risk of being too fat for gross men like you Oh wait....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:50 PM
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"after kids" sure implies pregnancy friend Yes, some people adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:47 PM
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I'm speaking of your snarky reply to the other commenter when you suggested she didn't want to get pregnant because she was too lazy to make an effort to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:47 PM
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.... I wasn't the one who brought up pregnancy. I responded to your gross reply after she brought up the risks (one of which is not having the same body anymore afterwards..)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:45 PM
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I'm impressed with the level of copy pasta optics here for what seems like OC
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:44 PM
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Arnold is a stand-up individual and he and his wife seem cool, I liked when he was our governator 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:43 PM
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Also, it is difficult or easy to varying degrees to lose weight post pregnancy. I found it extremely easy. Others I know have struggled. You seem to have disdain for people who don't immediately bounce back to having a perfect physique after putting their body through hell to bring another human into the world and I find that attitude very disturbing. Doesn't seem off topic to me when you have brought up pregnancy, weight, and the "effort" it takes to look sexy again after all the newborn madnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:40 PM
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Reasonate, huh? No emotions for you. You'd think you were some kind of, I dunno, grl or something 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:36 PM
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Yeah me too I fucking hate this sub And I've been here for like 2 days 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:35 PM
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Oh. Well I thought her (?) point was valid. The risks involved in pregnancy extend beyond a new BMI and some fitness goals, for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:33 PM
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Eewww stahp. Nope. Your user name is one of the worst things I've seen on reddit. I experience a negative level of attraction towards what I know about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:50 AM
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It's not a strawman, it's a fact that pregnancy involves great risk. The commenter above you pointed out that there are risks in "every area" involved with being pregnant and having kids. This is true. Everyone with a brain knows. They include death, for the parent and the baby. You continued to yammer on about weight gain and attractiveness to men. Hashtag gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:48 AM
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Nope the previous comment said every area.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:59 AM
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Ack!? Is that really what you meant to say. If it is Let me tell you a story about almost dying twice of severe preeclampsia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:48 AM
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I agree with almost all of your comment tho I haven't been here long however The "can't love til you love yourself" line is fully BS in my experience. I am close to incapable of loving myself much of the time but I know I've always been able to love others. It may be a true statement for some but this is not a good generalization and everyone should try to stop saying it as one...!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:22 AM
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Wow, that's super gross and mean for you to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:31 PM
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I'm not suuuuper offended, and I have a lot of respect for Chappelle in general, but it did make me want to argue with him !
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:51 PM
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You don't have to apologize but I think you can tell that I disagree with "being a TERF" It sounds like you're a man, I'm gonna suggest that perhaps you think a little about what "radical feminist" means before you decide that you want to keep calling yourself a TERF..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:07 PM
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Ok but we all live there...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:04 PM
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...it's fine it's just a weird assumption for you to make, and on almost any topic other than personal preference for a long term partner I wouldn't like to hear someone say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:23 PM
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Huh. Maybe you can. I'm not even gonna get on your case for talking weird about trans ppl cause this is such an intimate topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:04 PM
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Yeah I think that's kinda BS. There are definitely gendered expectations, gendered trends, even gendered norms (heh) Nothing that I've ever been able to identify is intrinsically gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:00 PM
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Of course it's fucking not, no human is intrinsically funny or good at telling stories, a lot of that is, as they say, relative. Unless you're having some big personal problems, you're not going to want a relationship of any kind with someone you don't like ..and we all like other people for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:51 PM
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Does your gf like any perfumes or like... special soaps? Maybe you could come to associate a smell with her that would create that feeling of intimacy with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:41 PM
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"have you met my assistant, Scarface? His appearance is quite disturbing but I assure you, he's harmless enough He's a sweetheart, calls me master, and he has a way of finding pretty things and bringing them to me"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:27 PM
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..I'm new here but based on the title of the place I kinda thought it was a "debate" sub
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:23 PM
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Yes well we all have our reasons for being on reddit. I read parts of this thread yesterday as well. I wouldn't have "pushed back" on any of the answers I see as more reasonable either. I might have responded to some of them, with "that makes sense" or "have you considered _______"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:19 PM
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Well .. Nothing is unknown. We each enter every situation with our own brain and our own agenda. Life is not a spreadsheet and obviously OP has a reason for posting this topic. We spend our time on what interests us. The "unreasonable" answers probably seemed reasonable to the person writing the words. I didn't read this entire topic but read a number of comments and it doesn't appear to be filled with trolls or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:03 PM
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...why? When about 100 people give you their wildly different and confusing reasons for doing a particular thing you might be able to synthesize those words into an explanation that makes sense to you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:33 PM
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Barf squared, extra super double barf
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:53 AM
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I think getting unredpilled is a great goal. Tbh you could probably even do that for yourself instead of waiting for a woman to do it for ya 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:52 AM
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If "get plenty of women" is the goal, sure I guess. Each person should be able to mostly meet their own needs, but what do we need each other for?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:51 PM
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Well that's fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:31 PM
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Scroll down to the bottom and find the answer :) ...it's not like women never do this. But in my experience we are a little more likely to end up taking them out on ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:29 PM
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Ha! Thanks for the honest and thorough rating. I'm not usually the type to post my photo on the internet and ask what people think, but I'm kinda glad I did this time. I'm not a high school student, I'll be 23 in a couple weeks... my glasses are actually child's glasses though, they were the only ones small enough for my face that didn't completely suck. I subscribe to the "feminist ideology" that people, meaning women, men, and everybody in between, are people (durr... waitforit) who should all…
/r/seduction18/05/11 09:41 PM
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My problem with the pickup mentality is the number of people (mostly men) who use it to "play games" as you say. However, the way you explain it does make the whole idea seem less sleazy and more sensible (i.e. don't treat someone as special until you actually think they are). There's also a psychological phenomenon where if one first perceives someone as unlikeable, but later changes their mind and likes them, they will like the person more than if they initially liked them. I have definitely s…
/r/seduction16/05/11 06:33 AM
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I don't believe I'm that special... I actually put myself in the class that really doesn't know what she wants, at least at initial attraction. Just pointing out that I think some women definitely know what they want and are not shy about trying to get it. Field reports, eh? Maybe I'll write one about my latest encounter.
/r/seduction16/05/11 06:30 AM
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I just reread my first reply and it was kinda confrontational, sorry about that. I agree with you that attraction is not (at least not completely) a choice. I got on your case a little because I detected a whiff of sexism in your responses, but I don't think you are intending to offend. By the way, if you care to judge my hotness/non-hotness for yourself instead of taking my (obviously biased) word for it, this is me.
/r/seduction16/05/11 04:23 AM
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thanks for the advice, here's my perspective: Not all girls are like this. Some know what they want, others just know what they DON'T want. I've "picked up" a couple of girls myself, so I feel that I'm at least qualified to talk about it :)
/r/seduction16/05/11 02:48 AM
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Funny is good, but I guess I value humility more than "hot" girls do. I'm not conventional-looking (no makeup, dress kinda funky) but there's nothing wrong with my body or my face as far as I can tell. I haven't spent any time on r/seduction until today, it's kind of intriguing to me though.
/r/seduction16/05/11 02:20 AM
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I'm female and the first four lines you list would probably make a pretty bad impression on me (not trying to speak for anyone else)... they are just kind of assumptive and arrogant.
/r/seduction16/05/11 01:35 AM
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