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Yea nature is brutal. Humans are just another animal. Everywhere in nature things are quite brutal for males
/r/MensRights03/08/26 06:39 PM
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I dont think its even conscious always
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/26 03:29 PM
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Horrible news, i am appalled. That said… niceee
/r/MensRights31/07/26 12:41 PM
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People are exhausting. Its all biology and we are monkeys
/r/MensRights30/07/26 08:19 AM
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African women are so hot
/r/seduction29/07/26 03:11 PM
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??? If trends change where its smarter to aim for 1-3 year relationships and chase highs, that affects us all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:15 PM
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Why wouldnt i be. Dating trends impact all of us
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:42 PM
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Well, its not about working for it. Women have changed, which is why tradwife became a topic in the first place. I dont get the latter part, it isnt about me, im explaining the two mindsets in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:11 PM
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It helps to have connections. Doesnt help if youre not attractive and everyone mogs you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:00 PM
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Good point. Men lie less about the whole thing since they dont fear social stigma from fucking women they dislike. I think men and women are same in that regard, its just women dont see the big picture and gaslight some. As for tradwives cheating yes good point too. I think it comes down to guys would rather have a system where they fuck the tradwife and the whole thing lasts for decades with some action on the side. And women, esp modern women, are happy to rotate people and relationships. (Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:02 PM
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I agree with this. But the problem is, after the tradwives reduce the men to paycheck and bodyguard the reward is monogamy and sexual exclusivity, commitment, loyalty. Feminists have a more integrated “take it or leave it” approach where within her freedoms she may just want exercise her sexual liberation with guys she supposedly “dislikes”. Thats the core, men love being reduced to atm protector if he nuts into the woman regularly, and his girl doesnt fuck around, and wants to build something l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:17 PM
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This is so wild and pointless. Nature of men is basically: if you wont, someone else will.
/r/MensRights28/07/26 08:35 AM
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Manosphere?
/r/MensRights27/07/26 05:26 PM
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Theres no wrong. Its biology
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:25 PM
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Literally a child
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:35 PM
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“No”
/r/MensRights26/07/26 09:24 AM
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Currently i dont want marriage or hoes, a peaceful partner would be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:00 AM
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Stop making it all about yourself. Men are screening you for the business position.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:58 AM
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No, its just nature/biology. Theres no right/wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:57 AM
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Ofc but that will happen with hoes as well. Only difference is non hoes stay commited/loyal for years
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:56 AM
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Idk man, men love to marry non hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:46 PM
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To men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:46 PM
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Your narcissism knows no ends. Im legit one, and even i can understand that youre allowed to make your choices, but you dont get to police how youre perceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:45 PM
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Not every man starts a family. Also a few hoes can satisfy a lot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:44 PM
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Yeah but you being a ho, and forcing men to accept it is controlling/entitled. Like if i wanted to build a family id definitely skip hoes, i cant believe this doesnt compute to you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:26 PM
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Why does it need to be broken down? Maybe the complex has a purpose to men. I can see when it would be flawed for example. But i can also see how it would be very beneficial, to get experience with hoes and then screen for a woman who has big long term potential
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:20 PM
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But can you explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:13 PM
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Funny how they all say that, but tend to want to fuck those that seem “not human”
/r/MensRights23/07/26 10:36 AM
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Patriarchy is like democracy, the best system we can do with unfair, flawed nature.
/r/MensRights23/07/26 10:34 AM
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Because romance sells, submission doesnt
/r/seduction22/07/26 03:58 PM
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The insane part is that the same women who complain about toxic masc, now complain about guys who dont have those traits as if they passive and weak. You cant win with modern women imho. Just do your own thing and treat them as disposable
/r/MensRights21/07/26 04:31 PM
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Some yes. A lot of the other ones are avoidantly attached women. So basically they are Andrew Tate without realising it
/r/MensRights21/07/26 09:44 AM
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General arousal factors into sexual arousal imho.
/r/BlackPillScience17/07/26 03:54 PM
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I think youre wrong. Arousal is literally arousal of nervous system. Its even close to danger. Id say attraction is tied to hormones but arousal is activation.
/r/BlackPillScience17/07/26 02:59 PM
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Women get aroused by boldness and confidence. Extreme case is a man who is dominating or even besting up other men.
/r/BlackPillScience17/07/26 02:00 PM
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Not really. Modern times it shows theyd rather be part of harems of very powerful men
/r/seduction17/07/26 09:51 AM
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Men and women arent supposed to be allies imho. We can respect eachother but we have different agendas and lives and thats ok
/r/MensRights16/07/26 10:11 AM
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Nor vice versa.
/r/MensRights16/07/26 10:06 AM
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Thanks for this. Helps to know theres still reason out there
/r/MensRights13/07/26 08:58 AM
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I doubt it tho. Big tends to be more healthy, and more healthy works better
/r/BlackPillScience12/07/26 08:05 PM
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You need to redefine what toxic is, and become that
/r/seduction12/07/26 02:40 PM
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But is that discrimination? Or is it just? My gut tells me shorter people are more likely to be neurotic and have poorer emotional regulation, resulting in inferior workload
/r/BlackPillScience12/07/26 08:47 AM
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But mens sexuality isnt looked down upon. Everyone loves Jason Momoas sexuality. Whats looked upon is weakness. These weak men are hated for their existence, so their sexuality is hated as a byproduct. And it makes sense. Even this hate/love sensation is just the brains imagination process and release of dopamine compared to genetic quality of the person we are facing
/r/MensRights10/07/26 09:36 AM
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This is real
/r/seduction08/07/26 12:52 PM
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Thing is theyre dating but i think people dont talk enough about sex and what lasts.
/r/seduction07/07/26 10:39 AM
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Totally, just accept sexism, at least its fair and principled.
/r/MensRights06/07/26 10:09 AM
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You live in a society organised around sexual power. Stop being naive
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:45 AM
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They want dominance lol
/r/seduction30/06/26 08:01 PM
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Yes shame controls behaviour. They essentially want no accountability (free of shame) to literally do whatever they want, while they use shame to police men. Flip it back. And not even maliciously, just trust yourself. Use deroagtory words where its apt
/r/MensRights25/06/26 07:51 AM
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Theyre literrally acting like bullies at this point crazy world we live in, massive narcisstic manipulation
/r/MensRights24/06/26 09:13 PM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 05:52 PM
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Thats really entirety of feminism. Removing shame from women and shaming men. Spread the word
/r/MensRights24/06/26 05:39 PM
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You need to see it and call it out. They get real salty once you have enough awarneess that you cant be shook
/r/MensRights24/06/26 05:13 PM
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Thats because feminist rhethoric push anti male on men so they feel more comfortable and have more power
/r/MensRights24/06/26 02:19 PM
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Not those things. Ask him what he thinks about men with low agreeableness. Do they do better at work and with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:18 PM
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Ask your hubby then
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:55 PM
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Do you need a study on it? I think Jordan Peterson dissects this. But even if you dont like him, ask any guy if he agrees. Most have either lived it, or seen it firsthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:32 PM
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So, the original point is about being disagreeable. You can have a rich guy be a pushover. Rich doesnt mean powerful or disagreeable. My entire conclusion is that, if you take an average guy with big level of empathy, and you make him more disagreeable -> consider only himself etc. He will do more risk taking behaviour, which will lead to more action and more promotion, and the women will also positively respond to it sexually (although probably not verbally). Basically flexing power. Thats all …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:21 PM
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Women lie to look good or seem socially appropriate. Men carry truth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:15 PM
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I got annoyed when your conclusion was "we are nerds, so we are the example im making". My point is, the stronger/more disagreeable a man is, the more power he can achieve and the hotter the woman he will choose/get. For example im sure Bezos and Musk are a lot more disagreeable than your dude. And Bezos is a lot more disagreeable now that he has more power/leverage, which is why he left his old wife for the new hot bimbo. Im not dissing, but im tired of people throwing disney ideas around
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:06 PM
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Its not strong if strength is not behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 08:04 PM
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Are you hot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:58 PM
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Not really, youre not leading - youre misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:54 PM
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Nah that aint it. Women collectively gaslight society (and themselves lol), manosphere is reaction against that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:52 PM
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Are you hot or are you a nerd?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:20 PM
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That women need mens non agreeableness to eventually submit to it, even though they preach the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:15 PM
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You keep talking about everything other than disagreeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:14 PM
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Nice dodge
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:54 PM
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Look at your reply, you are talking about everything but agreeableness and disagreeableness. Its all secondary presentation stuff. What are you even trying to argue, i will say it again: Disagreeable men get to the top. And women often dont because theyre not disagreeable (cant handle it).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:57 PM
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She either doesnt or on some level she cant stomach the implications of it behind it (and her role in it)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:44 PM
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Youre sure obsessed with presentation (polite friendly) which is not even what OP is about. Just so you can skirt around the central truth - that disagreeableness in men is rewarded (and not in women)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:16 PM
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I also never said rude, youre constantly adding context. Im saying life is a stream of battles where one person wants one thing, and the other person wants another thing. And men who dont give up on theirs, because they actually have the leverage to produce better outcomes, are the ones that rise to the top and are lauded by men AND women. In the end, those who dont give up, lead. And its very different when its being done by a man and a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:14 PM
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Youre skirting around the core message.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:06 PM
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Michael Jordan is extremely disagreeable thats why hes the star of the show. Basically the stars at the top are all disagreeable which is why they reach star status. I dont think obama is very agreeable, hes not Trump level narcissistic but i wouldnt say hes agreeable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:16 PM
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Would you say Trump/Obama are agreeable? What about Musk/Bezos? Cristiano Ronaldo/Michael Jordan?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:06 PM
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Youre purposefully mixing up politeness and disagreeable ness. You can be disagreeable in a polite way, but it essentially means - not caving. Men who dont cave get ahead, basically powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:54 PM
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Look at men in your own life, or if youre at a company look at who ranks where, who has more money and leadership positions and who has hotter women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:38 PM
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Yes all the top positions in companies and sports is filled with polite men. Its the opposite - you agree less you fight more - you fight more you win more - you win more you get rewarded with more stuff. Its willingness to NOT be agreeable that shoots up mens rank in status. Stop praching your women centric views
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:36 PM
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Men with low agreeableness do way better in life and society tho
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:12 PM
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Id say, when you think and reason, youre a collective of the people around you. When you feel, youre no one but yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:41 PM
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Ive found morality card is always about covert personal reasons/gains. This example is no different
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:47 PM
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The persona in you that sacrifices is not "you". Its your parents, your environment, your upbringing etc, and collective voice that knows whats required to make things run. Its reason, and reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:18 PM
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Everything that involves sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:34 PM
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Sure, but theyre sure as hell going to fail when they arent kept
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:40 PM
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I dont agree. Relationships fail when duties arent upheld. Duties are essentially not always “be yourself”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:54 AM
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Yup. Its confidence/dominance to be able to manipulate her, rather than other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:16 AM
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Its biology. Women seek safety - resources, physical, emotional etc. So she can be emotionally health and nurture (eventually her children). Women get off on men who have power over other men (want his dna)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:07 PM
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Men see the world fundamentally different than you. They fight battles you dont even see. But even those things aside, women want protection from men. And men can essentially protect only what theyre more powerful than. Can you imagine a struggling man protecting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:06 PM
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Women seek mens power by proxy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:59 PM
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What didnt make sense? You likely react to your guy rather than the other way around. And hes likely more secure and competent than you no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:59 PM
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Multiple ways. Power starts in nervous system. Being more resilient less reactive. Dominating vs being dominated. Leading vs following. Subconsicous belief about ability to fight the world (and other men), not just physically but mentally - via ability to compete, be competent and create systems. Ability to control environment rather than reacting to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:51 PM
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Totally this. You can be the most fucked up perosn in the world, if you have power it becomes cute. Otherwise its a liability. Power -> sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:40 PM
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Men manipulate to smash, women manipulate to extract resources basically
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:30 AM
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I disagree. Gay and bi influence behaviour. People pick up on it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:22 AM
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Id say most men respect red pill in practice, theyre just unaware that its redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:13 PM
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No it doesnt have to be sports. Anything that builds pride, and basically winning vs other men. Success, not failure basically. If you succeed you get more subconscious “i deserve”.
/r/seduction19/06/26 09:00 PM
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You can improve some. And im sure you can lower standards some, i serously doubt youre shooting for the bottom. Theres also some things that can help you get better results: doing things that max your power and pride. Basicallly: health strength, winning competitions. Its basically pecking order. The more men you win against, the more youre fueled with testosterone and pride. This then results in being “idgaf” with women which they pick up on and love - as its primal. If you act like “im better …
/r/seduction19/06/26 08:43 PM
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You cant. I think our genetics determine our power, you can just polish it to be more presentable. The trick is to find a woman who submits to you, not "make women submit". Meaning if youre lower in the pecking order, you have to find lower health women who see you as strong and competent.
/r/seduction19/06/26 08:22 PM
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Not really. If you go through gay and bi population you will often see: neurodivergence, aloofness, being quirky, feeling soft, feeling different etc. These are all markers that the person is "off". Women sniff a gay dude from a mile away. Why do you think they couldnt pick up on bi. Theres really no learning about it. A healthy masculine nervous system just radiates a certain way because its subconscious, its not rational, it has nothing to do with the mind, its vibration. Women respond to that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:21 PM
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I think they do want it - when its genuine, meaning you are so aroused youre going to put babies in her. Not as a neurotic "I must pound hard so she thinks im the shit"
/r/seduction19/06/26 06:12 PM
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You probably did it performatively. Not as a result of natural dominance. If she naturally doesnt submit - shes not yours
/r/seduction19/06/26 06:11 PM
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It cant change though. Because to change it is performative. Essentially - we cannot change biology. We can choose to act differently but thats just outward behaviour, the animal code is written and is there to stay. The ick is instinctual as its subconscious way of saying "this is not reliable to protect me and my offspring".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:56 PM
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Ive found they often lie about this, to either preserve mens egos, or more often - since they dont like how they come across and what implications it has on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:22 PM
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Because women select better genes, and men choose stability and regular sex. Basically mans priority is to be nutting regularly into women, without drama - so he can focus on life and society. Men build systems essentially, women build children
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:28 AM
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Basically enforcing your ability to walk away IS the aphrodisiac
/r/seduction16/06/26 01:55 PM
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This is like talking to children, i swear..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:11 AM
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Yea i think its the lesser of the two evils. In essence its: Patriarchy - Order, everyone contributes, society gets ahead, things are stable No patriarchy - Anarchy, Few men have a harem of women, no one works, no one makes families Which one do you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:28 PM
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What? Patriarchy basically fights to distribute women, through religion law and order. Without those you have harems where dozens of women fawn after few top men, so all the other men revolt (and also refuse to work)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:07 PM
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Youre getting downvoted because they hate biology
/r/seduction15/06/26 04:59 PM
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You pig, is that all you can think of /s
/r/MensRights15/06/26 04:58 PM
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Its not ideas, its biology. Basically women have to actively fight their nature to surrender to their primal urge to be owned by powerful men. And they do, which is why everyone is neurotic in 2026. Edit: Ive seen firsthand when the smartest most progressive women turn into concubine upon seeing a man with so much power he effortlessly dominates other men.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:18 PM
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Ive found all these to be true if you dig deep enough. Sure day to day we live in a society where we are people, but behind doors, at night time, when no one is watching - these traits do come out sooner or later. And women themselves are ashamed of them so they keep them at bay.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:14 PM
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Men dont complain about bigotry, men actually carry truth because they live in reality and are forced to be secure enough to handle it. Bigotry and sexism is an integral part of being an animal species. To deny it just gaslights reality (in order to make people who cant handle truth *feel* better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:47 PM
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How did you read that reply as a complaint? Its a reply to the woman who is actually complaining, and was in the spirit of "stop complaining, you have it fine".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:46 PM
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Thats my point. Women view incoming information by how it makes them *feel*, regardless of its validity. In fact, if you dont like how it makes you feel, youre going to dismiss and reject it even if its true and would societally improve things. Your existence is sexist, because its biology
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:40 PM
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So what are you complaining about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:39 PM
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Youre proving my point. Our nature is sexist, and we would benefit from working with it as it plays out like that anyway. Women like you just cant handle it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:13 PM
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Im talking about women in IT industry that i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:05 PM
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Its annoying. You hate how bigotry makes you *feel*, while its explained to you. While actually being an ape
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:04 PM
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The end result is that theyre getting days off, thats the only thing that matters, they get accomodation and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:53 PM
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I dont have a problem saying that. You have a problem with anything that sounds sexist to you. Make up your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:47 PM
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They were in IT. They request days off and get them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:46 PM
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So youre saying women i know didnt get leaves? Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:45 PM
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Most women i know got extra off days at work for it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:23 AM
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Women need to accept theyre hypergamous apes, dont put it all on men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:18 AM
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Problem is, to accomplish what youre saying - men need to accept where they are in the pecking order. Thats basically it, the women you dont have to jester for likely see your genes as good enough, coz heres are on the same level or below.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:36 PM
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Facts
/r/MensRights06/06/26 09:58 AM
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I agree that bluepill is somewhat delusional, and pretty much most of dating relationships is a subconscious tug of war where if youre reactive as a man, youve already lost. She maximizes her own needs, guys should as well. The one who cares less wins - rotate them lol. Hate it but its the truth. Modernity basically shows up its all about maximizing leverage, and main leverage men have is actually - leaving, and having honeymoons with new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:18 PM
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Women are much harsher than men. Men are overt, but its the women who do the real selection - by whom they choose to fuck. And it definitely isnt feminine men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:31 PM
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This is wild. We need women to mirror infants, which is the biggest reason men select feminine women - emotional health. Infants who dont get mirrored properly are fucked for life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:09 AM
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Feminine men are powerless/weak, thats basically it. It has no implication on women. Men for the most part adore seeing feminine women, and masculine men. Woman not being straight is very often seen like a man, what are you talking about, men often joke about lesbians being like men. Men are evaluated on power, thats really all there is (by both men and women). Only difference is powerless men are picked on by the men pack, where women are like "theyre sweet" while actually often feeling disgust…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:18 PM
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I said nothing about childbirth and bleeding. Youre creating your own judgements. Im saying in resolve and regulation. Women basically get free pass to act like children and let emotions run rampant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:32 PM
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Yes
/r/MensRights27/05/26 04:00 PM
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But good problem solvers have efficacy to assert themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:00 PM
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Well women are weaker? Ive never seen men complain about women being weak and disregulated. Every day i see women complain about men who dont have things together. You literally see reality as a threat to your ego. And even on the topic of man to man relationships, you manage to make it about women. So narcissistic, and feelings lead, with 0 reflection. I also just explained how women are the ones that punish weakness in men, so maybe look into that first.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:59 PM
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I dont understand whats misogyny, no one even mentioned women? Women have perfected talking in fairytale lingo. Even patriarchy, its all so.. fighting a disney fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:57 PM
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Wow you really are on the lookout to make everything about women arent you? Is that your mission? lol See whatever you can relate to women to then fit "misogyny" afterwards? I need to stay out of online spaces, this is ridiculous. Whats worst, if you stopped to reflect: Men's attitude towards weakness, isnt hatred of women. Its an adaptation of womans primal selection mechanism meaning, men adapt to womens disgust towards weakness, because it means it wont get selected by nature. So in reality, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:08 PM
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Because men are evaluated on strength/power, and anything close to gay is seen as feminine and weak. Meaning who dominates whom. Women are not evaluated on that metric
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:20 PM
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I think its lack of integration. For example impulses of wanting to be taken care of come up, and the mind experiences cognitive dissonance, due to ego and ego wounds or modern programming “must not be archaic”, rejects the impulse to maintain modern woman ego. I think we all need to become sexist again because its rooted in truth. Not to the point of being bigots and cavemen ofc, but enough to realize men are men and women are women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:57 AM
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Yes i totally get that as well. Its perspective really, i get both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:50 AM
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Well depends. On one hand we all have one life and should explore it any way we can. But counter example is best the recent “marry the nerd” woman. Its calculated and potentially will cause damage in the long run because that woman knows she wont respect the dude she chose. Basically, its why men have the meme of wanting a virgin. To protect their ltr investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:47 AM
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Yes i agree with what you said. Ive noticed women who are in a good relationship with their femininity like men. Women who reject their femininity eventually end up hating men, because deep down they dislike themselves (often due to trauma) which makes them more programmable by cultural trends
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:06 PM
3

Theres nothing stopping it though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:35 PM
-4

I think those women are the only women who actually like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:33 PM
2

Yeah tell that to guys whos gfs are ecstatic while making out with celebs during a concert show
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:12 PM
11

A lot of unhealthy people have kids, what are you talking about lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:10 PM
2

What a complete deflect of reality and everything ive said, real nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:15 PM
0

Well depends how you see it. Im an outsider so i get it, but in that case the bullied guy is still the bad guy. The tribe is like a business, with only incentive to grow. They want you to be quiet in your corner and let the cool kids play basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:34 PM
-1

Well theres nuance there. But it comes from men having a really big issue with other men nutting in the women they see as leading/protecting. Which is why woman get labeled as "hoes". Men who sleep around have completely different views, and can even be seen as conquerors, and women will never admit it, but they often low key love that the conqueror who can or does have a harem, chose them as the main girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:37 PM
-1

But thats my point, there is no choice. Simply because: When a man doesnt meet the standards of a woman, womans natural biological entitlement kicks in as in: i deserve a stronger/more-competent/more-secure man etc. But then this man who does meet this standard is like "ok ill give these things to you, but i expect sexual exclusivity and nurturing". And here women go *surprised pikachu face*. The natural entitlement that women has that allows it to have standards, is precisely because: what wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:26 PM
0

Feminism is in essence: "I dont want to be catcalled". (I only want it from hot men) Meaning - i want to maximize my opportunities, and i dont want the world to inconvenience me. Regardless of balance, principles, fairness. So in its ultimate form its: i want to have the benefits of men, while keeping privileges of women, and accountability of a child. This translates into: im happy having a man spiritual enough and in touch with his feelings enough that he can let me fuck men i "dislike" when i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:39 AM
-3

"Fair" doesnt exist, its a human concept. From a lense of man, a woman is an irresponsible child. From a lense of woman, a man is a caveman brute. Men want to lock down women, to pass on their genes. Is it fair that woman want things in a man "stability, reliability, resources" when they dont want to reciprocate with sexual exclusivity and child bearing? I can tell you, as a flighty BPD impulsive man, most women DONT like men who are immature in the way women are. Basically women dislike men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:34 AM
1

It doesnt work though. Its not culture. The more you improve yourself, the more you vibrate. And the more healthy you are, the stronger your drive to put your semen into a woman is. Its literally a biological game akin to a simulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:29 AM
15

Facts. People refuse to accept we are animals first in animal kingdom. Whats worse is once you understand, its not like its wrong either. The men who dominated you are sort of in the right. The tribe is better off that we have their offsprings than yours. Its brutal - just like it is with nature. Nature basically doesnt care, it just is, perpetual survival
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:22 AM
-2

Not sure. I think it depends how integrated. Deep down yes, men want to fuck as many women as possible where women want to fuck as quality as possible. Thats sex drive. The psyche is different tho, men want systems and stability (wife and regular fucking), change nothing and are willing to sacrifice for that. Where women want feelings and dopamine only, and get bored quicker, and will actually sacrifice everything to get that high. This is even more so in modern times where people are less integ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:05 AM
2

Im just saying its different. Lets say youre an average woman vs average dude. Walk into a bar and say “who wants to fuck”. Men will hoard in to fuck the woman, and woman will be annoyed at the guy asking. Same goes for say, celeb fuck. If you told a male celeb “wanna fuck”, youd likely fuck a celeb. If i told women celebs that id be laughed at. Youre not seeing your own privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:01 AM
0

You dont get it, its not even about sex. Its about subconscious competition to extend life. Its whats behind mens competition, drive etc. Natures programming. And because its subconscious no amount of reason can override it. For example if you de prioritize it, and those around you get to endulge it, youll quickly get inner feedback, and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:56 AM
-11

Problem is, society is about fucking. In essence, everything distills in some way towards power and leverage, that ties into fucking. Not purely for sex act itself, but as an excercise of life/libido and passing on genetics. Men want to lock down women for fucking, and women want to be hoes - for fucking lol. Society in essence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:25 PM
1

They know theyre older so now their standards are lower to "have some fun" while they still got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:38 PM
1

There is no love without leverage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:17 PM
2

Yeah but pros and cons. Women are born with their value, men have to create it. You could make an argument that woman need to preserve their value, but i dont feel like going into that rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:38 PM
4

You still have inherent value because you have vagina, a womb, and a womans nervous system that seeks to smooth things out, all of which is useful to a tribe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:37 PM
5

Tell that to young women who are on yachts fucking sports and movie stars due to simply existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:34 PM
4

Yeah but the funny guy, muscular guy, smart guy, rich guy etc all involve skill of some sort. For women its basically - look fertile and all is good, which is something you can be born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:22 PM
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Yes. Respect in terms of genetics. People often say "i respect this person, theyre so good in character etc", but reason respect doesnt lead to sex, it just leads to approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:12 PM
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Men do those things when they lack power and regulation actually. Men in power build, and women are content submitting to powerful men. Dont shoot the messenger
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:11 PM
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RP is just accepting the animal/subconscious way of things really. And frankly, most men would rather be fucked (respected), than liked/loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:27 PM
-7

Paradox being, women get destructive and unhappy when theyre not in submission!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:31 PM
122

The bad ones need intense stimulation. You gotta be very bold and/or exciting
/r/seduction24/05/26 09:51 PM
0

Wife material implies regular sex, not dead bedroom tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:27 PM
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Problem is youre shallow and youre not seeing it. Ofc youd react to a hot person, but if you saw that hot person failing to execute on things, being bossed around or treated like a loser by other men, your respect would go down and your body would follow. Hotness is confidence partly, attitude, and lived experiences reflect that. Women visceraly react to confidence, hotness is almost secondary. The guy that stands out - bold, proud. Why do you think that is? All your talks about intimacy etc onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:11 PM
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Youre making it about men, or me, and im asking you. Does your body and brain react differently when around men who won in their competitions compared to those who lost? Maybe start reflecting on your own part in all of this. You immediately changed the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:07 PM
4

Yes but its biology. You dont like the idea of being a throphy, but nature already made it so winners evoke attraction. Men incetivize to compete, winners raise in confidence, women attracted to confidence/winners > procreation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:45 PM
-1

The car has nothing to do with it. Its about how much of a caveman you can be and lead/dominate. Their biggest fantasies are basically the ego boost of you finding her so irresistable that borders on rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:38 PM
-3

Dominance, visceral stuff, stuff that triggers danger/arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:33 PM
3

What are `aesthetically challenged` people supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:51 AM
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Yeah but in her head the ugly guy is probably some fantasy version of hers. Also i think ugly is meaningless, a pretty looking man wont necesarily make her experience lust. Like think Henry Cavil, thats a lot of smooth points there. Its about who can get the cavewoman cow out of her. Think abusive pimps
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:47 AM
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Nah, orgasm gap is because women choose to partner up with men who dont evoke primal lust in them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:43 AM
6

Feminism is a lost cause because: eventually society is built upon organising sex. And sex is inherently unequal
/r/MensRights22/05/26 11:11 AM
2

Its about maximising sex and sexual dynamics really. I agree on ltr part. Only thing is, the game currently is who cares less wins, so its an adaptation to current world trends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 11:17 AM
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Dont shoot the messenger. Its just accepting animal kingdom, and what makes men run and what makes women run. Basically subconscious trumps personality and morality when it comes to mixing dna. Both sides are fucked up tbh. Both sides manipulate and its tied to power that translates to passing on ones genetics. Theres really no good or bad, its just a tug of war and seeing it for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:30 AM
0

Redpill is basically accepting we are primates and animals, as women are. And our reasoning does not override the subconscious layers that deal with biological drivers of behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:05 PM
1

Thing is, with privilege comes accountability. Women want the privilege of reverting to woman factory settings without societal accountability of being treated like a core of what a woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:57 AM
1

Youve been out? Yet you date the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:36 PM
1

Have you had them or youre just speaking from ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:20 PM
1

Yeah but some things can be factually proven, and some things cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:50 PM
0

I agree with that. Its easy to see the other camp as the problem. I do think there is a fundamental difference as well. Both things can be true at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:49 PM
1

You react you dont respond. You never considered how cause and effect works but instead feel a certain way about it which determines your attitude towards it, and the person - basically what women and children do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:26 PM
0

I do agree but to an extent. Both genders left to their own device, would simply hoard whats good for them. Only difference is, men are forced to reflect on what systems work in general, so they accept systems over vibes. Women just vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:24 PM
-1

Maybe you should stop with reactive ad-hominem, and reflect for once in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:13 PM
1

Woman, in essence, is a lying insecure manipulator
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:39 AM
0

Tldr - women want whats selfishly good for them, not whats the greater good
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:37 AM
0

I dont know what your point is. Its all about arousal and inhibition. My ex ltr disliked cum for example, but wanted me to cover her last time we had sex, simply because it was the last time and she wasnt inhibited. I didnt push her. Same goes for all kinds of sexual acts that come out under different conditions. Women say one thing and do another under conditions. Sometimes those conditions are hot men, sometimes its travel, sometimes its anger. What women say literally has no meaning, in just …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:40 AM
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I personally dont trust anything women say. Because all it takes is their primal switch to go off, and theyre going to behave completely different to what they talk about with their bfs or hubbies. Youre also ashamed of your nature because its unflattering
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:51 PM
0

Because it works on arousal/dominance, not reason/will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:28 PM
1

Nah. Women act different once theyre in their lizard brain. Its just they choose different for ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:51 PM
1

Its all manipulation. And it exploits the inherent need for a man to cater to women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:50 PM
6

Easy lays and companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:06 AM
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My original comment was to illustrate that power shapes us. The more power/leverage we have, the more we care about exercising it and be uncompromising. So we are going to care about others less, which others see as “care”. My original comment serves to illustrate this truth of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:52 PM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:50 PM
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That is correct, but once we have enough leverage none of us care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 04:21 PM
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Ugly truth is we care if we dont have the leverage not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:15 PM
5

Women want assholes who choose to treat them well. Basically power she has by proxy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:05 PM
2

Sexism is nothing but awareness that we are apes first, its biology. Look at what you react to sexually in men. Are the men you date/fuck taller than you? Are they more secure or confident than you? Do you react differently to men who you desire over the ones you turn to for comfort? Sexism doesnt exist imho. Its just a word people use when they are not happy with their biological role. And it tends to be women, because they most often enjoy the privileges of being a woman (receiving), without t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:21 PM
2

Well we should strive to understand the world in order to learn and devise what works. People should discuss sexism same way we discuss world events. I bet i could prove ways in which youre sexist for example
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:29 PM
2

Ofcourse a woman disagrees
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:10 PM
2

Our nature is sexist, basically our existence is sexist. Sexist is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:46 PM
2

I think we need to redefine the terms “sexist” and “racist”. At this point i see them thrown around by people who are upset when facts and biology clash with their idealistic views of life. In some ways, rejecting reality should be discriminatory no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:32 PM
1

I agree. My type is the gothy/nerdy/artsy mix woman, but i definitely went ballistic and trumped my standards when involved with the horny party girl. I would argue though theres a big complexity in the word "like". I like my nerdy friend. But ill never want to have hot toxic sex with her. LIke is a very superficial word. Better words used are: interest, attraction, compatibility, lust, validation-seeking etc, trauma bonds, limerence. All these explain behaviour much better than "like".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:02 PM
2

I dont think women understand the concept of principles, so appealing to that makes no sense. In the end their feelings run all behaviour, and feelings dont care about facts or principles
/r/MensRights03/05/26 11:53 AM
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Funny how its the empathic gender that extracts virtuosity points for inclusion using that label as soon as shit goes south.
/r/MensRights02/05/26 02:32 PM
6

They need pussy to not be desperate tho, its a catch 22
/r/MensRights27/04/26 07:50 AM
1

That cycle is literally what creates society, and its cycles. Men at the top creating scaffold so men at the bottom can get pussy and keep working for men at the top, because women want their seed and resources
/r/MensRights27/04/26 07:50 AM
6

Power hunger
/r/MensRights25/04/26 11:26 AM
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No, they dont really care about anything outside of them, not even society lol
/r/MensRights23/04/26 11:20 AM
0

Never. Theyre fundamentally insecure by design
/r/MensRights16/04/26 09:23 AM
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Gender roles dont exist. Whatever you culturally figure out at the end of the day, because sexual dynamics never change. Carriers of babies will always receive protection and carriers of semen will always pay
/r/MensRights15/04/26 10:12 AM
1

Tldr, women can change narrative and behaviour, not their firmware and biology
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:35 AM
2

Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:27 PM
-2

Bro they dont have principles, they go by feels
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:25 PM
4

Its a nature thing tho. Look at caveman days
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:24 PM
0

What are you basing that belief on
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:12 PM
1

All relationships collapse without reciprocity. Which means there is a score, its just the transparency and budget that vary. If i helped my buddy moving multiple times and he didnt reciprocate, our relationship dynamic would change
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:15 PM
2

They are all transactional, OPs one is just transparent about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:13 PM
0

But thats what it is subconsciously already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:12 PM
6

This is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:37 AM
1

I thought so. So maybe you dont know much about long relationships in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:36 PM
1

So youve never had a very long relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:31 PM
1

Thats not the point im making. I asked you have you been? People do random shit over the course of a ltr. And yes, cheating is likely to occur if youre with someone for 10,20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:20 PM
1

Idk really. Im guessing because we see badboys as strong and whores as weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:28 PM
1

Yeah but have you been in a relationship for over 10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:59 AM
1

I never said that. Im saying women in general want someone better than them. That can come at a cost of the man putting his dick (briefly) inside of someone else. As bad as that sounds, thats less destructive for a relationship than the woman not having someone better than her, which tends to result in relationship end as sex breaks down. Basically sex is not the same to man and to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:20 PM
1

Im saying you talk big words about love, and not bring up what happens to people when money and sex dry up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:25 PM
3

Who said that? Im saying you bravely took moral high ground talking about love. Disney. And im saying our subconsicous drivers are majority of the relationship. You just choose to not reflect on it because its more convenient for you, or you cant handle whats underneath the hood. Love doesnt hold people together, needs getting met holds people together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:23 PM
2

Thats such a cope/fantasy take. Look at reality around you. Take sex away from your dude if you have one, for a year. Observe what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:14 PM
1

Relationships arent just love
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:11 PM
0

Yeah thats what im saying, relationships often survive the man clapping cheeks elsewhere. The vice versa doesnt work. Simply because on some level the unspoken agreement is his resources/love for her sexual access. I didnt write the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:45 PM
6

It like: She loves him more -> shes #1 but will get cheated He loves her more -> disrespect -> dead/bedroom -> breakup Pick your poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:29 PM
4

Its how things work on a subconscious level.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:29 PM
5

Why is that sad? Theyre getting to understand how society works, which is the "sad" part?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:57 AM
8

Pretty much
/r/MensRights27/03/26 11:24 AM
-5

To give you negative feedback
/r/MensRights20/03/26 10:42 AM
-6

I stopped reading after i assesed your character
/r/MensRights20/03/26 10:40 AM
3

This is about nature and duality of women, not about whether being a punk or a cuck is more redeemable
/r/MensRights20/03/26 10:34 AM
1

That they disrespect men they select (who accomodate them)
/r/MensRights20/03/26 10:08 AM
0

What kind of logic is that? Im saying majority of people are stupid, to illustrate, lets say thats 80%. Nowhere did we deduce: 1 - the person getting chosen is stupid 2 - the body that chooses the person is stupid
/r/MensRights15/03/26 07:53 PM
-3

Why not. I immediately can tell if i want to fuck a woman, if she would never fuck me, and if id never fuck her
/r/seduction15/03/26 05:49 PM
-9

I guess i want meritocracy not democracy.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 12:45 PM
1

But why are we choosing based on what we want, instead of whats better for a country/society. The whole notion of "i want immigration because i project my empathy" vs "I dont want immigrants because they may pollute the bloodline" is ridiculous. We should look at what benefits a country and act accordingly - be it immigration, army or whatever.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 12:37 PM
4

Respect is to be earned
/r/MensRights14/03/26 07:14 PM
3

I think people should do sugaring for the next 5ish years till this whole mess dies down
/r/MensRights11/03/26 04:02 PM
3

Men are and always will be disposable. But its part of the sacrifice. Women just dont want to do their part and are happy to see society collapse because they just care about momentary vibe with 0 reflection
/r/MensRights10/03/26 10:26 AM
15

I told my ex recently "thats shaming, stop that", when she tried to correct a perfectly healthy, positive and natural behaviour. She lost her shit. She may had imagined something, but my reality was healthy.
/r/MensRights08/03/26 07:19 PM
15

Well as i said we used to shame women whod behave like animals or endulge in vanity.
/r/MensRights08/03/26 07:08 PM
34

Because we used to shame whats not useful. Man who is not sexually successful is basically not useful to society, as he is weak. Shaming in tribe is perfectly normal, we all shame, its just some keep it to themselves. We used to shame women, but they fought hard to remove the shame, and it backfired for society. We need strong dads and loving moms.
/r/MensRights08/03/26 06:59 PM
10

Its envy
/r/MensRights07/03/26 09:44 AM
2

I think its more necessary in times of modernity where animalism is more rampant
/r/MensRights02/03/26 02:41 PM
3

Red pill is just biology, accepting biology over disney
/r/MensRights02/03/26 02:40 PM
1

Dominance bro. Im glad its finally out.
/r/BlackPillScience02/03/26 09:52 AM
-4

Why shouldnt men prioritize sex though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:39 AM
1

Or its wise words from those who understand human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:38 AM
1

Based, and true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:37 AM
4

Feminism in essence: use shaming tactics to prevent being shamed. Whatever party reduces shame, has an increase in power. Its a power trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:36 AM
1

Ive seen that. But what ive found is men who wife those up, are goody men who probably never bagged hotties, its still lust underneath and these marriages always fail. These men should just sugar for a bit or fuck hot escorts to get it out of their system. Mens disgust towards hoes is universal, its just romance and lust can overpower it, but the chemicals that drive romance and lust are not sustainable - which is why these relationships fail
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:06 AM
3

Yes, womans hypergamy has to be met. Especially for ltr
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:17 PM
19

This worked while women respected men. For some reason this stopped being the case
/r/MensRights27/02/26 02:19 PM
2

Not where Im from.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:57 PM
2

It was always a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:50 AM
3

Two 4s should get together tho, even if initial attraction isnt there. Way better long term results
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:38 AM
2

Its the same with women but i agree. Whores and badboys are basically hot people who can do as they please. And this evokes enough dopamine in people that they resort to lust. In the end tho, men really dont wife up hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:34 AM
1

I think it depends on the spirit of the act, not the money. A succubus controlling the man paying is weak, but man legit having control over her and the situation and being like “i got this”, should turn her on. Its the leadership, not the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:03 PM
1

I definitely dont believe what women say, because what you respond to, you are often rationally ashamed of, and it gives you cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:12 PM
0

Thats reductionist. Plenty women can enjoy hanging out, and will get turned on when the man pays, its in their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:10 PM
4

That would make a lot of sense if they owuld never dry up when the guy says 50-50
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:43 PM
-1

"treat me like a normal human" is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:13 PM
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Theyre children who have gotten very entitled/narcissistic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 10:25 AM
1

Tbh im jaded based on the last girl i was with, who fucked 50 dudes, and is happy with failing LTRs. Im just saying women cant grasp the basic concept of: if i try 50 jams, the 51st will feel less unique/special, and your mind compares it to all of the other ones. If your life goal is totally content with trying as many jams as you want, thats perfectly fine. But dont be upset that some men may refuse to get the treatment the 51st jam gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:00 PM
2

But that is exactly my point: nature/reality is quite harsh, it does not care about ideology. However, when presented to women, women refuse it and stick to ideology in their own little bubble, to protect their own feelings. Which is also ok, the tribe protects womens feelings for a reason. But that is precisely why men say "women are like children", because indeed, you reject what you dont like based on emotions, basically like - little children lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:58 PM
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Thats not snob you, i gave you a resource - bell curve on IQ distribution. Explains a lot of male behaviour and outliers, as well as womans. No one is degrading, I want to expose reality as it is, not this moralizing fake bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:01 PM
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You sound quite snobbish. I think i can reasonably explain why "women are children", im just tired right now so Im not interested in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:44 PM
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Spoken like a true radfem, unable to look at reality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:50 PM
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Well if youre a scientist, look into the bell curve. Again men are outliers, meaning bad and good. Women are the boring average. Philosophers literally distill workings of psyche culture and society. Women are quite vain and shallow imho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:05 PM
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Most men would love to fuck on the side after theyve been married for a while with the good girl
/r/MensRights25/02/26 05:02 PM
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How so? Men protect their daughters. Infact unprotected daughters (by men) are associated with very negative outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:01 PM
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I think men are superior, yes, but i think it also makes sense. Once you really analyze everything, even philosophers paint women as either children or shallow/vain. But it is a generalization ofc, im just saying as outliers, men will be the worst examples of humans, but also the best. Men are outliers, in iq, in excellence, in everything. I agree with you on the feeling thing, the pride (ego) is just another feeling, its not logical. But its also interesting you paint men as killing, when basic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:28 PM
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Ok lets break it down. It all tends to boil down to: men are lead by pride (ego), women are lead by feelings(entitlement). I think thats what it distills into. As well as: not all men are honorable, but honorable people tend to be men. But on the stats itself: apparently women are more likely to use poison for homicide. I just checked via ChatGPT. Its not a huge disparity (which is what i expected), but it is there. - On the topic of warfare - interesting but yes. Men often say, vikings/samurais…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:09 PM
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Just because we are capable of voilence, doesnt mean we dont have honor and integrity. In essence men are strong -> we take it and we also defend. Women are basically weak -> they receive, and have to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:58 PM
1

But do you think youll be able to give the guy you commit to sexually, what he wants, after youve fucked so many guys casually?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:01 PM
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Ye but men can do it too. We want good women at home for nurture, and a machiavellian mistress on the side. Love and lust are separate
/r/MensRights25/02/26 11:54 AM
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So birth control did skew this
/r/MensRights25/02/26 11:53 AM
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You can be into chrime and have principles and integrity, i dont see your point. Its honor, women lack honor - which is why their choice of weaponry is things like poison. Its as simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:17 AM
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But its true. Ive found men carry honor principles and integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:11 AM
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All im doing is questioning your idea of "justice". I stopped believing in equality, and am fully for merit rn. Thats all it is. Men and women dont deserve anything inherently, although men tend to be the force that generally grants power/rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:20 PM
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Nah i disagree. Most men can excell at something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:15 PM
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Im saying i dont know the repercussions of allowing women to vote or not. I dont think any of us do. Theres only bits we can conclude, like increase in liberal policies. But we need more data to conclude if women are building or destroying societies, as theres evidence for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:14 PM
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I think the biggest value for men is finding something they can excell at (vs other men). At that point womans utilitatian nature starts getting tingles (this is of use to me, hes very good at x)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:01 PM
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I didnt say one or the other. Im open to both ideas if theyre reality. Maybe women voting is a net positive, and maybe its a net negative. Its a complex matter, but women voting because it feels like justice is just a fairy tald
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:56 PM
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We arent liars. You just run from reality and truth because you either cant handle it, or you cant but its unpleasant for you, and youd prefer to vibe and feel good. Thats why we see you as children, because you put your feelings first, and facts second
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:54 PM
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That is the nature of all men. They just dont tell you, so you wouldnt react the way you do, and they dont want to upset you so they can keep having you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:18 PM
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Yea but thats also feelings based. I reflect on what works and gives best societal results. Men or women not being allowed to vote would be a factor in that. Injustice is just projection, analysis is knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:17 PM
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Yes *their place*. They basically go: this makes me *feel* bad -> how can i change it. Even if its circular thinking. Very little interest in seeing things as a big picture, evaluating what works, why things are the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:04 PM
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Atm no, because its exhausting being their daddy, and i dont have the executive function and leadership for that and their little coddling and tantrums. But eventually ill have to. Its not strange at all, relationships rely on men coddling womens feelings as if theyre children. Thats the whole protection thing, men to men talk is much more real.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:03 PM
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Because you prioritize your feelings and live in protected mode. Refuse to reflect on workings of society, to the point men stop arguing because you leave when things feel wrong, even when theyre true and reasonable. Thats basically how a child lives
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:19 PM
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Id just say the decision thing reasoning isnt what id say it is. Id say women want to shut off their mind, get into feelings and receive (validation, pleasure, laugh, whatever). They want to shut off executive function so that they can practically behave like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:03 PM
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It will never work, because having sex (which is at the core), has nothing to do with reason, ideology, and abstract concepts - its pure biology
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:07 PM
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Nah, it influences safety and feeling valued, not at all her arousal and respect for him. Stop gaslighting, its annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:06 PM
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Gender norms are based around roles, that eventually lead to sexual activity, and being dad/mom
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:44 PM
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Biology is a monolith tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:41 PM
1

Totally, they hate biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:40 PM
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Newsflash: vaginas getting wet, dont care about your progressive views/habits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:40 PM
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This
/r/MensRights19/02/26 06:04 PM
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Lol shes manipulating you. Wheres that equality gone now
/r/MensRights19/02/26 06:04 PM
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It just cant work. It would collapse and they would still ask men to bail them out, its nature and they hate it lol. At this point its like people who believe in communist utopias
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 10:45 AM
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I really dont care. Youre not entitled to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:33 AM
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Women criticise men all the time because theyre not up to your standards. Youve been just given leeway since men protected you for ages, which you collecively botched
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:29 AM
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Yes we can, thats what it means to be in society. Youre not entitled to validation and protection and aproval
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:19 PM
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No one is forcing anyone. Men are criticising and sometimes hating, which is also perfectly fine. Stop trying to deflect critique through misogigy, the term is obnoxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:52 PM
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Well its not like anything about you. Its things that have to deal with masculinity, and ability to protect and provide for her offsprings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:51 PM
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Nah she sees the genes right away. Genes carry attractiveness, phisique face, intelligence competence. Where you rank vs other men. Thats the real one. The behaviour matters but it comes after the biological contract is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:43 PM
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But thats what im saying, if she isnt into you, your genes arent good enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:39 PM
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Youre not getting it, girls arent right or wrong inherently. Theyre right or wrong relative to the quality of your cum/genes. Meaning a less genetically gifted man trying to claim a woman who can easily lock down genetically more gifted men than him, results in a man breaking his back to get crumbs. Hypergamy basically. Meanwhile if your genes are good for her, you can do no wrong as a man (since she subconsciously knows she cant do better/much better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:26 PM
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I dont get what that has to do with anything. All women really are like what i said
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:22 PM
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I dont think so tbh. Im more darkpill than RP. Basically i think its all genetic equation underneath, for the right girl you can be awkward and shes still going to want your cum. And for the wrong girl, youre gonna have to dance to keep her interest because you both subconsciously know your dna isnt good enough to claim her fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:21 PM
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So survival of species is misogyny? Lol the self entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:05 PM
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I think the "make wait" is complex. On one hand, she isnt aroused by that man enough to override her reason. On the other hand, yes she wants to be seen as a partner, not a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:04 PM
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Very good reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:03 PM
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Fair, but i think its factual
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:20 AM
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Or just maybe, you want it to end just because it benefits you. What youre saying is, you dont care about implications of your behaviour, as long as it benefits you. Thats pretty evil imho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:37 PM
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Its always transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:36 PM
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Its just a ploy, to seem empathetic while they push their agenda
/r/MensRights15/02/26 01:30 PM
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Its severe competetive individualism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:37 PM
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Facts tho
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:40 AM
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I do agree men should do a lot more sugaring, it can be very good bang for your buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:45 PM
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Its just their genes. You have to understand we are all expression of genetics. And womans nature derived out of screening for masculinity (best genes). Whatever her cultural or societal learning tha happens, the soul and body will always screen for that
/r/MensRights08/02/26 12:37 PM
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Thats such a dumb take honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:16 PM
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Thats because you attribute pointing objective differences as problematic. Reality is sexist. Id say the ones who promote equality just to further their own agenda are the real evil
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:09 PM
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You should look at yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:08 PM
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I said men are more competent on average than women. That doesnt mean all men are competent, or all men are more competent than all women. Theres men who arent competent, and women who are competent. But on average, men are more competent than women. For black people, yeah same thing, white people are one standard deviation higher in IQ than black people. Same principle applies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:11 PM
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Nah. We know what runs in your subconscious, and its not flattering
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:07 PM
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You are then very poor in comprehension. I tried really hard to explain things in a reasonable way and you reduced it to "you think we arent the same, you misogynist". I dont know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:07 PM
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I suggest you reread my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:01 PM
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Women are very often turned on and aroused precisely by what they say they dislike. So no, im absolutely not going to pay attention to womens words, that often come from insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:00 PM
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Not really. Its very simple. Take any job. Not all men are equally competent. It doesnt mean all men are more competent than all women. But it does mean most often, the most competent people are men. Same as IQ distribution. Men dont hate women, men hate when women distort reality. So faced even with facts, you would argue against to create an egalitarian system just because it benefits you more. I think that extremely entitled, and narcissistic feat, is, quite hate worthy. Because its hate of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:04 PM
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Ok lets unpack that. My point is that men are more competent than women, and that women most often sexually select more competent than them. Theres like a realistic middle ground here that i think feminism is trying to conceal out of insecurity. Basically hyperbole: women are incompetent Another hyperbole: women are just as competent as men. Reality: on avg men are more competent than women, women mostly sexually select men more competent than them. Men tend to do the more difficult things as we…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:31 AM
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Youre missing my point, i didnt say women cant do respectable things. My point is on average they are less competent. The best doctors teachers will tend to be men, due to competence difference and biology. Even iq distirbution shows men on high end dominate. Which is why biologically women seek to be lead for procreation as well. Theres just a lot of insecurity due to feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:47 AM
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At logicstics i agree. Its why the male ceo woman secretary is the trope. Its just that women are uncomfortable with that idea nowdays
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:35 AM
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Look at what your vagina responds to, and how you select men for procreation. Thats biology
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:19 AM
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People like you are why things fail though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:16 PM
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So because it probably wont happen, means that we can ignore it completely? Thats not what women do when shit actually hits the fan
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:48 PM
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All the most competent people i know are men. Women do logistics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:47 PM
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Nah. Men are more equipped to deal with difficult things and challenges. While operative and nurturing stuff women do better. Women in essence want better than them, and then demonize men for wanting a follower due to their own insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:33 PM
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Ok then gather up people and ask how many women would like to fuck daddies, and how many women would like to fuck dudes who call them mommies. Come back when you have the numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:36 PM
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As i said before, do you know any case where the man failed to protect the woman and the relationship turned out well in the end and continued?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:35 PM
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Yea but competent men dont often need competent women, do you see what im getting at. Its biology, mom and dad roles
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:34 PM
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Most men would absolutely hookup and fuck a bratty woman, idk what youre on about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:31 PM
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I didnt mean in the bedroom. Majority of women want a man whos taller stronger and more competent than them. Part of the strong is protecting (vs other men), its visceral. Which relates to the burglar case. Stop messing around the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:31 PM
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Round of applause to you, noble blue pill man. We are talking about society and gender roles, not you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:12 PM
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I dont know, they annoy me. If i was a daddy type id definitely plow through them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:09 PM
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You people have 0 ability to stay on topic of debate before derailing into blue pill shoulds
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:07 PM
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Im not a daddy type so brats typically dont want me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:06 PM
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Its not a problem. Theres nothing to be accountable for. Fucking a lot of women makes us feel great. Its what nature wants us to do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:03 PM
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Youre doing shoulds and moralizing and creating stories all to take away from the fact of what is: What is is: men need to fuck as many women as they can. Women want to fuck the best man they can. Always was, always will be. Which is why OPs theory is correct, a (weak) man doesnt get the privilege of a weak woman sexuality wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:59 PM
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We dont rape, we work so we can have apartments where we can fuck vaginas
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:57 PM
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World runs on the sexual drive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:52 PM
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Does the woman leave the partner in cases where the man ran off? Men didnt come up with anything, difficult things get respected, which is why women want men who do difficult things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:46 PM
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No I never said that. Im saying women respond to certain things, often which they dont possess themselves. List the things you get turned on, then compare that list to what makes guys turned on. Women want to be lead/dominated, because vagina loves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:45 PM
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Their vaginas love daddy men tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:44 PM
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Preferences come out of inequalities. Women are weak, so they prefer strong men. Stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:33 PM
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I dont understand what your point is at this point. Im saying we get different roles biologically. We should put it all on paper and devise whats fair. All you seem to represent is day to day, while conveniently turning a side eye on how men tick and what woman respond to. Thats the equivalent of me saying "hey fuck me more, just because im more nurturing, while im not really that strong".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:24 PM
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They live in fantasy land, becuase often they hate their biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:13 PM
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I dont get it, theres no virtue. Men are animals, large and small scale. Women seek that power/protection by proxy. If we step up, women respond, if we dont, women respond negatively. Just the way it is, high stakes high reward. Women are expected to do day to day stuff and nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:12 PM
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Because women operate in fantasy, not reality, because they often hate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:58 PM
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Its all biology. Womens preferences are also biology. Womens issues are also biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:57 PM
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Yes, basically, women hate biology, and themselves, which is why feminism is on the rise. Idk where youre getting this its the woman who steps up. Men who dont step up get left because vagina dried up after seeing failure of protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:53 PM
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So because he didnt have to do it for 22 years, it means you wouldnt care if he stepped in or not if it were to happen tomorrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:51 PM
1

Its inequalities. The biological makeup creates the preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:51 PM
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Women love virtue signaling, till shit hits the fan tho. Then its all about traditional expectations. We can talk about men all day, but fair is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:50 PM
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So, are you trying to make the argument that being burgled doesnt happen often enough to offset constant cleaning? That may be valid, but dangerous situations are life threatening, and as soon as shit hits the fan, women are nowhere to be found. We could then discuss if risking lives/injury offsets regular cleaning. Maybe it does, maybe it doesnt. Most women want men who earn more than them, and leave men who earn less than them, especially if the man loses the job. And no, men work way more of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:49 PM
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Its biology. Shitty women still get plowed through, and dating as well. We have standards for who we have long term and who we marry. Its biology, men need to inseminate and conquer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:46 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:45 PM
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I never said I want to. But youre diverting the topic from OPs original point. Women who act like brats and children have good sexual prospects. As opposed to immature men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:44 PM
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I never said i do. But its a very common occurence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:34 AM
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Yea people who spit facts equate to red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:33 AM
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Delusion. Biology is diametrically opposite. Women just often dont like that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:14 AM
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What logic is this lol. Men love fucking brats, thats the entire point of ops post. Basically women are allowed to be children, often it even results in better sex since you get to put them in their place and they love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:13 AM
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Lol. These women have no issues getting plowed tho. The point of OPs post is to demonstrate the natural inequality of genders
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:31 AM
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Not true, plenty of women brats out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:18 AM
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For the same reason men are expected to step in when theres a burglar or taking on more challenging work to outearn a woman. Mens nervous systems are for fighting, womans are for nurturing. Meaning men do the difficult stuff, women do the tedium
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:16 AM
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Sure, but women are opting for hedonism, while demanding the privilege so..
/r/MensRights05/02/26 07:39 PM
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This. All female privilege, aside for sexual marketplace stuff, comes down to tribe needing women to bare children so the tribe grows.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 06:10 PM
2

We are animals really.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:29 PM
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Yea totally. My last two relationships showed this clearly. The first girl was more meek and soft spoken, and pushed me to be more proactive and it worked great. The second girl is dominant and dated a ton of dominant and edgy people. I could tell i had to perform and when i didnt, i felt more invisible. The first one would have likely been annoyed by the very masuline men girl 2 dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:28 PM
1

We all pay in some way or form
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:06 PM
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Real world is dangerous as well
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:56 PM
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Checked if a woman wrote this, indeed she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:31 PM
1

Dumb take
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:48 PM
1

They still seek competence and leadership, as well as a man whos more secure than them. Basically having someone stronger than yourself (no matter how you define stronger) is protection
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:47 PM
0

Thing is, if women are inefficient for the company, wouldnt men who own businesses hire more men?
/r/MensRights31/01/26 03:11 PM
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Yea can confirm. Some women in my former company were top notch devs, and they deserved every bit of promotions. But as soon as one performs poorly, and actually gets way more leeway than men, suddenly its inequality and discrimination. They cant fathom the idea they may be less competent at times. Sometimes they even cause issues which is why men prefer to leave them out due to issues falling into hierarchy. And they again blame it on discrimination lol
/r/MensRights30/01/26 05:23 PM
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Yea its basically, they think men dont sacrifice in society, so they want to feel "free", which is basically behave like a teenager, fuck around, and then complain 20 years afterwards how the game is rigged. It is, but its rigged for all of us, get in line.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 03:13 PM
3

Well i only had one of those, and its a typical feminist avoidant that has a streak of bad relationships telling men to do better. Small bias but im seeing a pattern. Man hate is wounded feminine, wounded feminine is cognitive dissonance (regarding dependence and submission/hyperindependence) which translates to either failed relationships or a life of hedonism where men are replaceable
/r/seduction27/01/26 01:04 PM
4

Good for flings only
/r/seduction27/01/26 12:23 PM
0

Man last if women do their part/duty
/r/MensRights19/01/26 11:41 AM
1

But they have low esteem because they failed compared to other men. By definition, we cant all be winners
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:07 PM
6

Totally this. Single for them is not having a life partner. All the while enjoying various pleasures sex and intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:48 PM
4

For me the biggest issue is that, women apply what works for them onto men. So if their inner world is good emotionally, theyre in good place. Theres some truth to that, but mens reality is competitive and hierarchical. Brains of other people directly dictate how they treat us based off of our place in hierarchy, so theres a win/loss utilitarian aspect to us. We need the wins and to feel respected and useful to be ok in our lives. Feeling and purpose matters too
/r/MensRights16/01/26 01:59 PM
1

Because if both carry risks in the relationship, but one side gets relationships easier, then the advantage there is clear no?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:56 AM
3

As if that cant happen to the man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:01 AM
3

I mean if youre at the mall and she needs her bag held, yes you should hold it. Its stupid to figh that. But yes, if you dont want to be at the mall, then dont.
/r/MensRights15/01/26 06:14 PM
1

Bi girls, or bi girls at fetlife
/r/seduction11/01/26 03:48 PM
5

Yes but theres a caveat here. Men knowing nature of women equips men to know where to invest, thus creating better relationships for men and women long term. Women want control but ultimately, destroy the very relationships they take part in. Its like all they do is short term, so it feels good in the immediate moment, 0 reflection.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 05:18 PM
6

I dont understand the first part. Women are often hypergamous, manipulative, entitled and without principles. And that tends to come with their biological role. It doesnt mean thats all they are, but somehow pointing this out has become.. bad? The vibe im getting from those reasonable women is basically, it doesnt matter what is, as long as it doesnt make them uncomfortable. Meaning theyre above discussion/criticism, hence reinforcing the entitlement? It literally communicates “i dont want to be…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 03:50 PM
9

They hate themselves on some level. So by extension, they hate men who bring up the aspects of themselves they dislike.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 03:30 PM
29

This is so fucked up
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:58 PM
2

Feminism is just andrew tate of women. Both sides of the same coin.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:47 PM
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See the problem is. You judge men for bashing bi men, but the only difference is, these men dont give a shit. They overtly bash the bi dude not because theyre strong, but simply because they see the bi dude as weak and not masculine. Women on the other hand are probably worse internally, they just cover it up to get social credit points, and reject bi dudes behind closed doors. There is no good/bad in the end. Biology is not about morality. Vaginas want strong men for sperm. Men want strong wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:40 PM
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Well basically men have to be strong. Whereas women have to.. lie? Lol Do you see the difference there One is rising up to something, the other is a trying to conceal something I guess you could argue that both come from ideals, where the man is strong and the woman is virtous. But the difference lies in actually embodying that, rather than lying about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:16 PM
1

I dont see how that is similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:57 PM
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Im just saying men and women are animals. Men need to be masculine to get sexually selected by women. What women say they aprove is not what makes the vagina work in arousal. Part of the same package really. Bi guys demonstrate something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:01 PM
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We all pay bro, always. At least if commited.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:09 PM
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Yes, because in reality there are repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:10 PM
2

The moment you complain as a man, youve lost. Because there is a man out there who is ready to fight and take your spot, and doesnt need to complain. Its the natural way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:12 PM
0

Sure. Then go make money and get the transplant. Im saying asking for understanding is begging to get something from someone. Only women are allowed that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:08 PM
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Men asking for stuff does not work. Men have to take stuff. Women get to receive coz survival of tribe depends on their babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:56 PM
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Men follow mother nature. There is no other way. Maybe youre demonizing men because they rejected you. But they rejected you because of how women screen men. Id also say, we all look down on those we dont respect. Its just that straight men prioritize certain aspects tied to masculinity when they screen who is respect worthy. Its animalistic sure, but also, we all do it, its just the parameters that change.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:00 PM
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Nah, theres plenty of research done on big 5, agreeabless and neuroticism - halmarks of a feminine nervous system which is more empathic but also more fragile and insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:27 PM
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Ofcourse, because society relies upon men meeting the expectations of women. You dont see the role women play in all of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:08 PM
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Lol kinda true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:07 PM
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No im saying women screen men based on power, and those who dominate are chosen. Which is why men judge weak men. They know the price of weakness, even when its a projection. Your own experience confirms it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:27 PM
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No, men project how women view men onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:45 PM
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Its darker though, reason men bash gay/bi men is beacuse of women as well. Because they instinctively associate it with weakness/lack of natural masculinity. Its projected, but its part of male reality. Strength/masculinity breeds admiration, and the opposite/weakness breeds disgust. These men fear this, and rightfully so, because underneath it, its women/mother nature that rejects this. Youre personalizing it on men. But its no different when people dont want to be friends with jobless or down …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:19 PM
1

Yeah women are known for picking jobs in harsh conditions /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:59 PM
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Theres a huge difference in men and women. Even if you leave out cognition and physique (which is tied to hunting), at the core level of nervous system theres a huge difference. And that exists primarily for our inherent biological roles that are tied to offsprings. Stop with the egalitarian stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:49 PM
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I disagree. Mans nervous system is designed for being outside and competing/fighting. Womans nervous systems are designed to be cozy and to nurture. Its just in modern times, especially due to capitalism and sometimes power abuse, women are less interested in their biological role, because it holds less power in competetive systems. I dont think men should leave after spreading seeds. Im saying men are more easily capable of having more kids on the side and being less involved. Which is often th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:02 PM
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Biology wants men to impregnate a lot of women, and its easy for us. And for women to have few babies they take care of, natural
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:44 PM
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Totally this. The same women who object to this are the same women who get impregranted by the men they criticise. Its just biology. Theyre wired to care about their survival and their offspring, mean are wired to care about land and creating offsprings. We are animals no matter what ideology wants, biology wins
/r/MensRights06/01/26 02:37 PM
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It doesnt work. You just need to look at animal kingdom. Men compete for women and resources. This is an inherent biological drive. Winners create prosperity and more offsprings, so its harder to support those we are in direct competition with. There is always someone else to take the place. Just apply this to large scale. Men lead countries as well, and countries are in competition - its the masculine way of life. Harsh but real. Paradoxically the fairness comes with accepting open combat, whic…
/r/MensRights06/01/26 12:30 PM
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Totally. You have childhood to be authentic, if youre lucky. After that, as brains mature, we are literally wired to compare and see others as social components - a breeding ground of genes in a hierarchy. Its the same for men and women, and its literally in our brains and neurochemistry. Women in general are insecure about their underlying motives, because by nature - to satisfy hypergamy, they have to be "less than", along with their nature of being a nervous system thats fueled to mother a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:26 AM
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Yeah this is it really. They live in delusional therapy office worlds, and then leave these to go into delusional homes. They arent experiencing reality and are taking money preaching to people who are
/r/MensRights05/01/26 10:13 AM
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You all say that, until lizard brain attraction kicks in. Basically if the man is attractive, you will feel the usefulness of that, and all your words will be forgotten or rephrased
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:51 AM
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Well yes but dont you think those are linked? Basically when women say "hes broke/bum" she is talking about his ability to be a good ltr partner, and ultimately provider for her kids. In the same reason men say "cock carousel" indicates her character, she is prioritizing short term hedonism over long term reward, meaning she is not a good fit for ltr and family unit. Men and women are evaluated as weak/strong, and for men these traits are tied to fighting and competence, and for women virtue and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:53 PM
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Women are not honest with themselves nor others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:49 PM
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You will waste money either way, its just a matter of more or less. Women do get you to be a productive member of society, but its deeper than that. Our very genetics want to continue life, and sex is an indicator of health. Basically a man thats fucking simply feels healthier and better. You cant win by fighting against biology, its foolish. I do agree though, win or lose, they win. But what they do is not our business.
/r/MensRights04/01/26 05:14 PM
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We need to define love tho. Dating is dopamine related, and sex is for baby making - which is genetics related. So yes, people with bad genetics have a disadvantage in passing on their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:51 AM
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Exactly.
/r/BlackPillScience04/01/26 02:08 AM
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I dont think people get taller. Its about how strong he is. Taller means higher chance of stronger and more resilient so she can relax into submission and being protected, thats all. Basically a rock for her neurotic nature.
/r/BlackPillScience01/01/26 08:39 PM
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No, these men should hit the lower league and work from that. Ofc they should work on themselves but no self work replaced actually getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:03 PM
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Thats fine tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:50 PM
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Nah, better to strengthen the muscle of asking for what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:32 PM
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Being good at a fistfight is not easy, and we would all respect, its a sign of competency and mastery. You getting into a lot of them would likely result in a humbling experience, your analogy doesnt make sense. In a way men telling women not to become hoes is kind of parental, and women going “we do as we please” is sort of infantile. Its perspective, more fun in the now or accountability later
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:26 PM
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But its not a double standard because its not even footing. Being and women fucking a lot indicates potential issues in women, and strong skills in men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:29 AM
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But im starting to think its not about average people trying to max their hobbies and morality to have a better shot. It works short term for sure. I think long term its just about finding a woman that will be happy with your genetics - meaning her hypergamy is met. Tough pill for average joe, but those relationships really do last and the women in them tend to not be disrespectful
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:43 PM
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Thing is also, men who get rejected who play games tend to be unattractive. Can you imagine a woman rejecting Henry Cavil over playing games. Shed be like "youre so cute when you play". What ive learned in life - if she likes your genes, you can get away with everything. If she doesnt, nothing will save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:40 PM
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Its super simple. She has no use of it. His deal is to fight and get resources. All the talk about maturity is exhausting, its just about whats attractive which is whats useful basically. And the ones that dont mind the games are simply the ones that cant choose because these women arent that hot deals in the first place. The ones that are wont settle for it simply because they can do better than a man who plays games (and is not competing enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:56 PM
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Yes but ive learned not to care about what woman say, because its what they want to be true. Not what actually runs your programming
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:17 PM
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Yes im saying, women respect whats better than them. Men often choose whats inferior to them and then choose to protect that and do good to that because they want stability, and since women are hypergamous, it benefits both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:22 PM
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I dont know what youre replying to tbh. Your reply has nothing to do with what i wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:07 PM
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There is no breaking of old gender roles. Our culture can shift, but biology doesnt. Men compete, and top men get more women. All men want to fuck most women, and women screen for top genes (and respect whats better than them). Nothing changed, just women have more money and power, meaning if you want a functional relationship thats based on respect, you have to be more competent on average than our ancesters were.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:47 PM
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Lol based take
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:40 AM
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They screen for genes. Rich indicates competency
/r/BlackPillScience29/12/25 09:58 AM
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Im starting to see this more and more. Therapy world is fantasy world of liberal women that refuse to see workings of reality that trigger them.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 05:05 PM
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Liberals always seem to be running from morality and themselves
/r/MensRights27/12/25 05:58 PM
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You cant ask for respect. If you have to ask, you already dont have it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:25 PM
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Its validation but its not emotional validation. Its performative validation. Respect is totally a precursor to sex. Basically men have to be respected for the legs to spread open. Its not the case vice versa, men are happy to plow through women who they dont respect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:17 PM
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There are no shoulds. Youre trying to frame things morally. Its not, its just hierarchy for biology. And what our place is relative to what you need from the other person. Its all self interest, not a morality thing. People who look down on you cant respect you. And respect is a mix of earned things and gives genetically. If you do life much better than me you wont respect me, and if you dont, you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:07 PM
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Fair point, ill take that. I suppose we all want power.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:57 PM
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No i said your comment on firearms indicates someone who has a complete lack of experience, comming on feelings. A lot of people, men and women, would struggle to use firearms. On average a lot more women would are clumsy to master it. On average, a lot more women fear conflict and confrontational aspect of using a knife and a gun. Basically weakness. It doesnt mean no women get into army or use weapons. It just means if you take a 100 men and a 100 women, a lot more men would do better with tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:51 PM
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Forgot to say, their submissive nature likes the idea of finally dominating someone, because theyre at odds with their nature that forces them into a submissive/follower role. Basically self hate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:46 PM
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Basically world functions on respect. A hierarchy. Its the natural order of society. You just have a problem that women are on average less respectable. And want to be on recieving end of empathy. So you use emapthy as a tool, to get people to be empathic towards women, because it benefits them - all the while sexually choosing in the respect/hierarchy scale. Definition of hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:45 PM
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Id go into the second point, but the first one is emotional drivel, due to your own insecurity, so im not going to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:29 PM
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I asked you a direct question and you didnt reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:02 PM
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Its not emotional validation. Its a need to be respected - which is tied to our function and admiration. And ultimately is what leads to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:01 PM
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Have you shot a firearm?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:41 PM
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Nah, a lot of women are not dexterous enough to use guns and knives. They do, and have historically used, poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:03 PM
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Im pretty sure men who want to be desired is for what they can provide. Protection/big dick/money/problem solving. It means they want to be validated for their genetics, which women respond to with lust. Its basically - want to be lusted after. We dont need emotional validation. It accomplishes nothing but pity from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:02 PM
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They like the idea of it. Especially to those that are on the politically correct spectrum. But then biology sets in - the man with humiliation sub tendencies has low self esteem or is not healthy. And then she realizes she doesnt respect/want his genes, and relationship falls apart. All because of her own fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:42 PM
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Tldr - we all abuse power we have. Men can be violent because they can. Women arent because they cant. They are emotionally abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:51 PM
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Yea its just manipulation. They want the benefits of protection
/r/MensRights22/12/25 06:42 PM
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Thats because they get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:46 PM
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Autism is weakness. Weakness is not tolerated in men, but is in women - tldr. Basically the cost of not being a strong man, is higher than not being a nurturing woman (which is what society dictates)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:44 PM
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Totally this. All of the virtue signaling evaporated when you bring in neurodivergents in. It actually reveals its a power struggle, on a ranking, not about equality. DEI is disgusting
/r/MensRights22/12/25 01:38 PM
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This is key, you cant friend your way into a womans heart. She has to want your genes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:21 PM
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Women gaslight the world to not look "bad" - tldr
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:14 PM
1

Pretty privilege
/r/MensRights18/12/25 12:10 PM
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Have you been put to the test?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:14 PM
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You say that, but just about any woman would relish at the idea of bagging a rich dude who would splurge on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:33 PM
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Well i didnt say hot people are shallow. Im saying hot people get to be shallow. I dont know how hot you are, but I do know every hot woman i met felt it was a flex to receive stuff financially. (Because thats how women compete). And frankly, thats ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:50 PM
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This has nothing to do with sex, but the topic of sexism. We are either sexist and accept it as ok (roles), or we agree we arent sexist. Im annoyed by this equality buffet that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:18 PM
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This comment is just stupid
/r/seduction13/12/25 04:08 PM
0

But does anyone see this as a principle issue? Im ok with paying if the woman stops with the feminist propaganda at the same time. I think men have a problem with lack of principles, not with paying itself. You cant scream equality, stop sexism and demand to be paid for. I mean you can but isnt that hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:34 PM
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Bragging about men providing is not just a character thing how you described. The more a hot a woman is, the more competitive she is with other women, and the more men compete for her. So she is justified getting more out of men. It can shallow but we are a shallow species
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:12 PM
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Are you hot though?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:18 AM
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Its very simple, if she senses she is your best option, she is resentful and the man is unsure/less bold. And the relationship eventually falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:17 AM
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Well does it matter at that point? Its just censorship for the sake of virtue signaling. Nature is sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:38 PM
1

What i described has nothing to do with me, but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:48 PM
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Its not blame. No one used that word. I explained how the guy who competes and wins, especially at sports, tends to be more confident due to accumulated wins, which translates to more boldness that women respond positively to. Its all biology
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:06 PM
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They just dont get it. Or they do but it upsets them so they choose not to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:06 PM
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Yes but ot goes both ways. Our species is just like that. Men have no use from a woman who got sick and cant nurture, but women have no use of a man who got weak and cant bring in resources/protect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:05 PM
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Women are also animals lol. Reread what i said
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:04 PM
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Lol, ofc its not why they do it, no one said that. Im saying the sex is part of subconscious. And more importantly, sex is the outlet, not the driver. Men with success in sports and careers get a ton of vagina. EDIT: meaning even women are biologically written to find it hard to resist mens wins in these areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:40 PM
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Women needs a mans power, man needs a womans nurturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:39 PM
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Its all tied to sex. Men compete in sports and career, and winners get an increase in libido to which the outlet is women. Literally good genes continuing. Sex is the deepest driving force of life/nature
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:13 PM
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Yes but i think its biology. Men on a deepest level need to inseminate women. Women are more suited for emotional and spiritual health because thats whats required of them biologically to be a good mother
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:48 PM
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Yeah but women are bitchy/angry when hypergamy isnt met, even if a lot of them marry the guy who isnt their first pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:45 PM
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Ive noticed we are all racist and sexist underneath. Its literally part of us. Its just some try to reprogram themselves and act different, but underneath its there. Its natural
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:26 PM
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It makes sense, its basicall animal kingdom. And once you see it that way, its way less personal. Genes fighting for survival through animalistic traits - biology
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:24 PM
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My guess is they want to be loved. The more pure a woman, the more loving/nurturing. Men want to protect that emotional sanctity because it feels good on the receiving end. Older women are rugged
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:15 PM
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This is it. Its a bit deeper tho. Women want powerful man, who treats her good. Men want nurturing woman, who becomes slutty/out of control for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:33 PM
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Because a man capable of violence is both arousing/fun but more importantly, her lizard brain picks up that he can protect her and her offspring against other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:32 PM
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Narcissism
/r/MensRights12/12/25 11:00 AM
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Well if you criticise women or reveal parts of their nature that are less than flattering - its misogynistic. Thing is we both have aspects that we hate in the other gender, as well as capacity to love. But only one side is allowed full range of feels
/r/MensRights12/12/25 10:59 AM
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It really isnt about good/bad nice/toxic, its just attractive and unattractive. And i dont mean looks. For man, attractive = strong, unattractive = weak. Thats all there is. If youre strong (physically, mentally, emotionally, have good boundaries, dont need validation/permission to be yourself), youre useful to a womans biology. You fuck. Its as simple as that, its not some morality saga about being chosen, its can you protect her baby from predators and nourish it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:09 PM
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Caveman lizard brain: she wants to feel like shes hot enough that she got raped and man couldnt contain himself - tldr
/r/seduction11/12/25 05:21 PM
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Ok thats a fair assessment, maybe I am wrong. I did think i picked up admiration in her eyes. And basically i think thats at the core of a woman. The eternal struggle of wanting to be seen as strong/capable/respected, but on a lizard level wanting the relief of being put into her place by the man she genuinely admires, because she wants to be tied to his power.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:23 PM
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Nah, thats biology. I stopped listening to what women say, just watching what you react to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:15 PM
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No im saying women can rationally dislike something, but their biology will always get wet for power, even if they dislike the person, if the dude is powerful enough its arousal. Its like that famous interviewer who talked to Sean Connery about him slapping women. She was annoyed but deep down admired him even more for his power. Its biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:51 PM
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Im with you, basically last girl i dated was super hot and was super confident, but also kind of an asshole. She has a very hard time keeping guys, even tho guys lust after her. I think the biggest problem is that you know assholes know theyre hot and desired, so basically the woman youre with even if shes good, her body still wants the cum of the "asshole" guy. And men are competetive in this area so its a hard pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:20 PM
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Women are lizards, just like men, as soon as they are threatened - tldr
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:21 PM
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Because if they dont want to stay strong, theres another man who will be happy to fill the spot
/r/MensRights10/12/25 12:03 PM
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Women want to be lied to, or when not lied to, not to be told the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:29 PM
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I literally wrote "shoot your shot". Did you even read?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:18 PM
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lol delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:41 PM
1

Its biology. All these women that wont date conservatives absolutely would if they were either successful, rich or attractive enough. Look at Elon Musk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:19 PM
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Hierarchy is there before religion. Animals have hierarchies, even small children. Women pick men based on hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:04 PM
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I dont know what that has to do with anything. Im saying men live hierarchy, because its tied to how your vagina selects men. Its biology, you just assumed im religious which im not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:28 PM
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No one can escape hierarchy. And women play a part in it as well, since higher in hierarchy wins vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:46 PM
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They are basically complaining about experiencing negative feelings, its not about right or wrong. Rejecting a friend she doesnt find attractive is uncomfortable AND she loses friendship benefits since things got awkward. I swear, half of the time its not even an issue if a man expresses it, its how he expresses it. If he "confesses" -> its not wanted because its weak/needy. If he makes a player like move, thats half playful and half confident -> shes like "oh stop it" but also kinda wants it. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:44 PM
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Yes but theres really no point in analyzing womens words or behaviour. They will say anything that will make them feel comfortable in the moment. If you want a woman, shoot your shot. Her discomfort/feelings is not your responsibility. If anything, its gonna strenghten your muscle of not caring and being a bit dismissive (which irritates them, but they also find it attractive). Or dont if you want to keep things platonic, its really all about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:41 PM
1

So basically the world men live in, and underlying structure that gives way for people who are liberal to have their place?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:10 PM
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I agree. Thing is, what is romance? Maybe women mature faster while men remain boys deep down
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:39 AM
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I like your reply, respect, and this time i agree with most of the things you said. I think the only piece where i disagree is your definition of liberals being "what if we get left behind". To me liberalism always seemed to be rooted in a personal desire, rather than comparison against others (which would imply the risk of falling behind), whereas i associate conservativism closer to a sense of hierarchical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:31 PM
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Yeah but that is even more ridiculous. Me acting as an asshole (here and there), kinda makes them get annoyed, yet want me more - because on some level it satisfies their hypergamy. Yet me actually discussing hypergamy, would cause them to not sleep with me. So basically, women just want to feel in ways that they enjoy, not actually discuss things as they are in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:23 PM
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If anything, id say its completely the opposite. Men who have a hard time accepting theyre sexless, absolutely are aware and accepting of the idea that theyre not attractive because theyre weak. If they werent accepting of it theyd be going "we are kings". They complain at their situation, but they dont fight reality, meaning they arent delusional. Women on the other hand, from what ive seen, have a hard time accepting some of the fragility/weakness that comes with biology. Which seems to lead i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:07 PM
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Well, i didnt say need as in women go out seeking for it. But im saying when it happens and people settle into the relationship, thats exactly whats happening under the hood
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:03 PM
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I think its all intuitive and not reason related. And when you actually go into relationship related sciences, you see that 90% of the stuff is subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:01 PM
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I like some of the things you wrote. I do agree that men also need protection, in some areas. But i think in relationships they give it most of the time, and also in war situations, theyre the ones getting drafted. But that part is less important. You say its a fallacy in how physical vulnerability shouldnt translate to reasoning capacity. But your example of Stephen is completely off, on two ways. Stephen can admit/accept his disability, and i think women (especially modern women) have a hard t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:57 PM
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I think its all biology
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:37 PM
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I think its all subconscious. Protection from unsafety/unknown/life. I mean we can rationalize it all day, but some men turn their woman into a hag, and some men turn them into a kitty. The difference is the interplay of those two nervous systems, and then the mans contains the woman - shes protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:29 PM
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Because women are by default more safety seeking, which they often find in a more competent and secure man. Plus we all need coregulation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:03 PM
1

I grew up in war.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:44 PM
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I just think its all protection. Basically the dudes you described dont have the capacity to protect you, so theyre likely to abuse you. So if a man is bigger/more-secure/"better" than the woman -> protect her. Otherwise, shes a threat -> abuse her. So in that scenario, no one is good bad, its just dynamics -> does his body/nervous system have the capacity to contain hers. If a man is more meek/introverted than her -> failure of protection, otherwise it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:38 PM
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Well, either theyre truly not your rock, or they are and youre not aware of it. I have no way of knowing really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:34 PM
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Well maybe i was exposed to it at young age so im more aware of it. And maybe you havent been exposed to it, so youre completely unaware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:31 PM
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Ok youre giving me something to work with. But heres the trouble I have with that line of thinking, in this order: Because (conservative) men treated women poorly in the past -> everything to do with conservative men is bad. And its just not the case - just because youre a liberal or a conservative doesnt mean youre either a good/bad person, nor that you are equipped to decide whats good for your society. Thats where it falls apart. This post is more on challenging liberals, but the trend ive se…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:28 PM
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Im not letting anyone taking a lead without being able to articulate rationally all the different angles their views impact society. Be they liberal or conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:25 PM
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I think locality matters a lot. If youre from the states, youre likely very divorced from the experience of war. A world war would definitely look very different, but as someone who lives in an area that had recent wars, and even small chance of it occuring again - i can assure you, that men will get recruited to fight, some will flee, and women will definitely flee. Thats my point, violence comes from men, yes. And its something ive noticed women have a hard time accepting, which again, is why …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:23 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:16 PM
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So, i think men protect women every day. The whole "he is my rock" is basically protection. But that aside, youre trying to say that because men dont do it every day, they dont do it? All the examples Ive known in my life, the women got extremely dissatisfied when men didnt step up to protect them (in outlandish situations). Means it definitely plays a part, and id go further and say, thats part of what is being screened for when choosing partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:14 PM
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I mean i guess we can get into a debate of what constitutes "need". Pleading for protection under extreme conditions would fit the definition of "need". I suppose youre looking at it as "i pay for these services, but dont want to be around people who offer them". I guess more importantly, im trying to understand if liberal ideology reduces the position of a tribe on a global scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:12 PM
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Very constructive - this is why men dismiss these stances
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:05 PM
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But good men can get conquered too. Youre reducing things to good/bad instead of reflecting on what x leads to what y, so we choose what works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:05 PM
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Well US is not easy to invade due to multiple factors. What i am saying, having a society that is JUST scientific doesnt at all protect that society (even if science is your values). And i am challenging your views, as a woman especially, in how it may be short sighted and self involved. Again, US is the #1 force so its hard to compare. The Ukraine Vs Russia is an example but the power dynamics are also way out of line. What i am saying is: are liberals making the country stronger in the world o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:04 PM
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Ok can you elaborate on that? What is it that men refuse to accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:53 PM
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You know nothing about me. And you literally ended up making it personal "revolting" because you cant engage mentally to reflect/problem solve. Essentially, you just went emotionally driven..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:53 PM
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You are not getting it at all, and making it all about you and who is touching you. Im saying that women are burying their heads with the possibility of: All the men around your vicinity become progressive, stop believing in religious nonsense or whatever it is that you value rationally. Basically they become what you want men to be. And then another tribe(country) who is not progressive, dominates your tribe/country. Thats the whole matter. Womans inability to percieve that aspects that they va…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:51 PM
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Yes but all of that is until push comes to shove. You are acting as if wars havent existed for centuries. A world war happened literally less than a hundred years ago. And a war in europe happened in less than 10 years ago. The issue i have is your line of thinking is that its presenting as if violence is some distant concept when its actually always out there as a possibility. And with that line of thinking comes the hypocritical nature of minimizing it, but then acting differently once there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:48 PM
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So for example my nerdy ex I lead. She was following me. And it worked. My last ex, i followed and we both got frustrated. Basically she was a bigger person than me, and i wasnt her best option (couldnt protect her). Basically to be able to protect someone, you have to be bigger than them. But with that power you can CHOOSE to be good to a woman, or abuse her. The former is protection, because its in the interest of both the man and the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:44 PM
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They accept them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:42 PM
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No im saying a lot of women are liberal and have active disdain for conservatives (men). Yet they need these men - isnt that hypocritical? I also agree that you dont need to fuck a man for protection, but i think protecting a woman is what results in fucking. Basically all the women i was on some level bigger/stronger than and bonded and chose to do good to, we settled into fucking and a relationship. Its a nervous system - mine is bigger than hers (i can protect her). And women who i couldnt pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:42 PM
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Dude im talking societal and political stuff and you say "its not attractive", and how id get nervous? How am i supposed to take you seriously with a retort like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:38 PM
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I dont fully understand you. Where are you getting this idea that they are more for funding military/police? Why are so many women opposite to conservativism - thats what im getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:36 PM
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Sure, but my point is basically not about husbands, its about accepting the conservative nature of the world. Women are dismissing conservativism because of how it makes them *feel*
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:35 PM
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All men are potentially dangerous (conquest). Just as all women are potentially dangerous (manipulation). Thats the premise, you are reducing the nature of things into a moral concept and ideology. If all men in your country stopped being dangerous (so you could finally trust them as they fit your idea of nice/meek), they could still be dominated by another country. And then they would dominate you as well. The fact that you cant grasp that idea is why i made this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:32 PM
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See this is the line of thinking? BECAUSE some men can oppress - i need to trust no men. Do you see the logical fallacy in this? Id say BECAUSE some men oppress is exactly why you need other men to step in. And the opposite of that is basically - being a stubborn contrarian child. As i explained - you will cave and demand that protection sooner or later when shit hits the fan, am i not right? Be it youre getting assaulted, or your country is under attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:30 PM
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That is not true. Resources absolutely get pussy wet. Pussy gets wet either from arousal (nervous system) or activation (excitement/drama). Resources is basically a TON of dopamine flooding your system. Imagine Elon Musk showing up on your doorstep and your brain starts creating fantasies in your head of a lavish lifestyle, getaway trips, fancy dresses, travel. All of this is incredibly stimulating. And on top of it, the man who generated resources has won in competition, making him more bold to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:27 PM
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Yes but dont you think the two are linked? I agree that its not all about resources, but im sure a lavish lifestyle produces enough excitement/dopamine in a womans mind that vagina would get wet. Maybe not indefinitely though. But bigger part, women rarely stay with broke men. Part of dating and mating is that security for the woman, which is why they often leave when the man cant give her the lifestyle that she wants. Ulatimately again, resources matter for continually having the vagina. And to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:04 PM
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Apparently biology upsets people. And women seem to like their biology less
/r/MensRights08/12/25 11:26 AM
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Itll be interesting to see if countries that are more patriarchical outcompete countries that arent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:06 AM
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Sure. But you need to think of soldiers in any sense, economic, political etc. Basically its the core of right wing ideology that women refuse to look at, especially when they say “we dont need protection”, insinuating they dont like the fact that some men are stronger and may do violent shit ( making them dependant on another mans protection). The same principle applies globally. If one tribe (country) is pumping children, and the other is not, eventually the bigger tribe surpassed the shrinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:01 AM
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Yes, human nature is animalistic and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:44 PM
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Dating is about breeding subconsciously. Breeding for a man is about power/strength, its really as simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:52 AM
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Feelings and neuroticism result in more chaos, its as simple as that really
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:02 AM
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They are drowning in pussy. Ton of liberal women ive seen fuck conservative dudes, its just they dont turn to relationships due to core belief differences. I didnt say people are toxic, i said women respond well to toxicity. Even me who is a random nerdy dude, when I act kinda toxic, women enjoy a little bit of spice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:30 AM
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This is why men get labelled as "hating women". Its because women gaslight reality, out of self preservation, which is extremely selfish and irresponsible. Reality is arousal is tied to our animalistic sides, both on mans and womans side. Now again, it doesnt mean we need to behave like apes, but its part of our experience, and it plays a factor in how we operate in the world to get certain results. Some red pill bros make it their entire identity, because theyd rather evoke arousal/respect than…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:13 PM
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Im saying we can get aroused for people we genuinely hate. Theres a big difference between attraction, love and arousal. And rp bros focus on arousal and getting women to get into slut mode. Hypergamy and all that. Is it end all be all, no. But its part of lived experience. I dont feel like explaining further.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:14 PM
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Lust is toxic, it has literally zero bearing on preaching goodness - we gotta accept that. Men and women love toxic sex. Meaning we can be most animalistic when we hate someone - hatefucking is a term for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:06 PM
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I will stop discussing things with you here. Youve zero desire to actually make things better
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:04 PM
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Its not my feelings lol. Its the fact womans aproval and arousal are different things. And you get laid a lot more by being redpill, altho backfires in ltr. So the men selling it definitely know whats up, they just prioritize hookups and conquest over love
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:02 PM
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No, its just not disney out there. Reality is quite fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:00 PM
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Yeah but a lot of women respond well to toxicity, so it works in some cases. Like theres a whole lot of dudes that bag way more women after being more nasty. Simply because womans nature very often isnt what youd expect via reason
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:57 PM
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I mean a ton of what they say on those trashy podcasts is true so idk. They just phrase it as entirety of truth, and reality is more nuanced. Women are definitely opportunistic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:56 PM
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To use the term misogyny we have to define it. Are red pill manisphere bros inventing things which arent rooted in reality, or are they holding up a mirror that doesnt reflect something flattering?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:38 PM
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Wrong/right is moralizing that keeps you stuck in childhood. Likely because you had rigid parents who didnt love you unconditionally, but tried to model a "good/obedient" child, likely coz their own parents did the same. Its perspective. You can try to be kind/good whatever, to try to be what you imagine you want to be, or what others want of you. Or you can just listen to your inner self and deliver it. Its quite simple, read cue -> do stuff, go for what you want. Often the nice/respectful is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:35 PM
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Nice is basically afraid. Its fearful/anxious. You can stop being nice to an extent that youre stop being weak/afraid. Edit: That said, i dont think the niceguy can become the edgy badboy. But they can totally do the pipeline of nice (aproval seeking) -> asshole (fuck everyone elses feelings/thoughts) -> balanced. Its just a pendulum that wasnt able to be practiced due to fucked up childhood. Funny thing is for men, you get different results: Nice (toxic) -> worst results, most toxic abusive wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:25 PM
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Because men compete with others, and tribes compete with other tribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:09 AM
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Yeah its the moralizing that is extremely annoying. Endless gaslighting, at least men are blunt even when we are shallow/vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:36 AM
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Totally this. The central issue is, no matter how egalitarian womens minds are, what their bodies/vagina is attracted to - never really changed or changes. And men learned that theyd rather have a womans vagina, than her words of aproval.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:51 PM
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This is futile. Men initiate because we want to put our dicks into women first, before we screen for candidates of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:41 PM
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This, irritated coz of loss, not heartbroken coz she loved him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:23 AM
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Likely coz they cant, not because they want. Until the realize they maybe can
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:22 AM
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World literally runs on a desire to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:21 PM
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You dont think thats true? Disagreebleness is basically the biggest predictor of getting ahead in life. Which is why so many women complain about not being paid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:58 PM
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Its a fallacy tho. Women cant change what makes their vaginas respond to, nor where they want to nest, no matter what reasoning applies. And feminism is basically "we want equal rights, that men on some level pay for", these resources were a leverage to have that sexual balance prior. Nature is unfair by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:57 AM
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It doesnt work because we are in a powerstruggle by default, and thats ok. It has to do with accepting our nature. But funnily that contrast creates order, while ideology creates chaos. And ultimately its all about sex - the deepest driver of humanity. Women are quite stubborn too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:54 AM
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Totally this. Ive realized its all subconscious. Basically pretty privilege is quality genes, markers of health that our brains respect and receive dopamine of. No amount of virtue signaling is going to change that, because its not cognitive. The bodies just know who is more reproduction worthy, which is why they get treated differently as well get away with a ton of shit. Its all biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 11:11 AM
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All women act like children, and all men support it if they want to be in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 01:38 AM
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I dont understand the question, what does it have to do with what i said? My guess is people who arent "nice" also contribute more to civilization, which is why they also get more vagina and breeding. It doesnt mean the nice person wont have offsprings, its just that they will get selected less to pass on their genes. (and will also initiate less often) Nice is basically a more sensitive/fearful nervous system. And sensitive/fearful men do less in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:50 PM
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Its just nature really. If youre strong enough to not have to be nice, it means youre capable to fight other men, and fight the world for more resources. So the woman is aroused because vagina reacts to protector/provider with lubrication (give me a baby). Nice people are agreeable people, they dont really fight to get what they want that often, and sex reflects that. They get far less sex. Biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:18 AM
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Theres plenty of these women, but problem with betas is that they either dont have a lot of places to choose from, or they dont want to do that dynamic (which i understand). Basically its hard to lower standards if youre already mid at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:18 PM
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I dont think that happens when the beta marries a woman who actaually likes his genes. But betas want to lock down women who dont see him as their first choice but rather a safeguard compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:46 PM
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Yup, individualism is in essence emotional immaturity I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:43 PM
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They cant be wrong because their motives are based on feelings. And feelings just are, lol
/r/MensRights30/11/25 01:34 PM
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Am i the only one who thinks its the opposite. Its a formula
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:31 PM
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Yea maybe i chose the wrong term, not really sugardaddy - this is likely more competent man. I meant more in the realm of passport bro, who is likely less accomplished, less charismatic and less competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:05 PM
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Yea i think the only thing that stops them from straying is the fear of losing their best option. Otherwise its just a matter of time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:52 PM
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Were you her best option?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:46 PM
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The moment you sidelined a direct question into "stories" is the moment you stopped debating in a logical and factual way. And instead resorted to a "story" about morality, which is about how you *feel*
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:46 PM
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It wasnt a loaded question, its a question designed yo get you to think. To define why certain things make you feel a certain way. And not lead with feelings. But you dont want to think, because you dont want to discover principles. You prefer projection and moralizing because its comfortable - and also beneficial to YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:16 PM
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You didnt debate at all lol. I asked you clear cut questions and all you do is moralize. You dont even reflect where your judgments truly come from. Hint: its self serving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:01 PM
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You are truly like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:41 PM
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Lol Jeffrey is 1 person, no one was talking about him. Hes not even passport bro, hes just an uber rich person doing whatever the f he wants. You use Jeffrey because you have an issue with sex tourism. But as others pointed out, wonder if you feel the same about women going to Jamaica to get dicked down?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:35 PM
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Its actually good. Those pairings last longer in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:20 PM
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Ive explained it twice. Men use money to enjoy Asian vagina. Money goes further in Asia than in western world (be it vagina or a delicious meal). If you equate the former with: all men who go to asia rape asian children, then we really dont have anything left to discuss. Either you cant conceptualize anything other than that narrative in your mind, or youre getting flooded with imagery that has nothing to do with reality. Idk what to tell you I dont dismiss that SOME men rape children. But SOME …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:17 PM
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Yea pretty much, men bad for seeking a power edge. Women seeking power edge/benefit "you go queen" haha. Ridiculous. They cant stand the truth. Edit: wrost part - men do it so hypergamy is met, which benefits women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:10 PM
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Im calling out women doing emotional manipulation. You purposefully do generalizations like "men go to asia to rape children", which is very generalized. You are trying to achieve something by painting it as a overexagerated moral failure or even hedious crime. Without any effort to define: - What is the percentage of men going after children - Is prostitution in general ok, or does it have a moral component - Would it even matter if its asia or not - What is your personal bias I dont think you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:06 PM
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You dodged. Sex work is consent. I fucked a lovely 25 yo women from Africa when i was in Thailand. We even text on whatsapp here and there since we got talking. All you care is about your own narrative which ultimately on some level is tied to your own benefit. And even further, id say most of women who talk like you go back n forth on what is victimizing/empowering for a woman, depending on what context suits you better in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:56 PM
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Sex with children has to be like 0-5% of why people do sex tourism in asia? Besides, are we discussing sex tourism or prostitution in general? Ive noticed you women always seem to try to attempt to make it how its "men raping children" simply because those words have more impact. Id go further and say that any men that go to asia and fuck 30 yo hot prostitutes would also evoke the same reaction in you, which would indicate that its not your morality towards "protecting children" but rather somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:48 PM
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I asked you a simple and direct question, but you refuse to be rational and instead resort to moralizing, and being emotional about it. That means you dont care to define things and simply want your emotional stance to be validated. Which also means its about you on some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:46 PM
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I can see youre playing the rape card. Does that mean your objection is the age of the women the man would sleep with? Basically - if theyre above 18 (or the age of consent), then that would make it ok in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:38 PM
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Im guessing womens sex tourism isnt complained about because theres no money transaction involved, as laws of nature are met - men wanna f women naturally. The only way its complained about is culturally - basically purity culture - ho women arent good spouses, long term partners. Come to think of it, men shame women (they want for ltr) for being hoes. But women shame men (they want for ltr/providers) for being sugar daddies. Its quite funny. If you dissect it, its screening for weaknes. Ho wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:35 PM
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But why doesnt matter,the only thing that matters is that womens hypergamy is met no? Its like going overseas for jobs coz you get a better bang for your buck, or better standards of living
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:32 PM
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Thats not a passport bro, thats just a dude having a sex vacation. He married in his country.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:31 PM
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Part of the disgust is also acknowledging womans nature..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:29 PM
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I mean they are right. Its all a transaction. Only problem with feminists is they dont see their part in it
/r/MensRights29/11/25 11:56 AM
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Totally this. Hard to put into practice and a hard pill to swallow about humanity. But its raw truth and nature
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:48 AM
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Exactly. But dont you think the likelyhood of constant sex is higher if the woman adores the man. And not settling for stability?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:44 AM
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Nah. The goal is to not be in a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:43 AM
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So the woman youre with is your best lay?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:42 AM
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But again, problem is that men take it personally as if theyre the object in these womens stories. My best sex was with two women who were bpd and npd, doesnt meant id want them for a ltr. Same principle. Sex/hot is tied to toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:40 AM
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Regular sex is more important to men than best sex tho. Men dont need tingles, we need to nut regularly, which we always can. So whatever endangers regular sex is no bueno. Like men wont cheat if the nerdy girl isnt as good as the toxic ex. But men will cheat if they dont have sex for months/years. So its really a lot more on the woman and her perception - which is basically why culture tried to control womans sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:37 AM
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Women are in business, men are in love. Fools lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:31 AM
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Its funny how bb men get shamed at wanting to lock down a less experienced woman. As if its some moral thing, when its actually sensible and reasonable in that scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:29 AM
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Because its arousing. Brains enjoy arousal its stimulating. We are all practically druggies, plus rape is a dark fantasy - on some level subconsciously, rape is like ultimate form of desire and validation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:25 AM
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Problem is, men take it personally because of inexperience. Its the same for men. My best sex was with a nutty artist who had bpd. It was pure animalism. Doesnt mean i want a relationship with her. A lot of these examples where women are just like men really
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:20 AM
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I also found super confident people as “too much”, i like a more low key person. That said, you said your partner is a woman. Idea being, ball of anxiety in a man is not as tolerated as ball of anxiety in a woman - since men are screened for safety/protection most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 11:51 AM
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Yes but its also in the delivery. Its all strength/weakness. I was manic one time and love bombed the hell out of this hot girl (i legit was in love). But i had ultimate confidence, she had to give in. Meanwhile, if youre anxious (weak), and youre super expressive it just hits different. Women just screen for strong/weak - thats it. If you are scared/inferior/rejection sensitive/apprehensive etc - its weakness, so subconsciously whatever you do youre not giving safety and certainty. Women surren…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 05:57 PM
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Imho its about attraction. The more the other person is hot, the more self respect goes down the drain
/r/seduction22/11/25 12:11 PM
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They change being equal or a victim depending on whats useful in the moment. Funny, my ex who was the biggest feminist and non stop watched documentaries on how men rape and kill women is the only woman that hit me multiple times and even smashed my phone. She would even yell at the excuse that shes passionate (i yell too to be fair). Complete lack of accountability and reflection. But again, talking about all of that is pointless, because no matter the dialogue, men will baby women so we can pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:09 AM
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I mean they say they dont need mens money, but they definitely respect guys who earn more than them more so..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 10:54 PM
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Its the man who seeks her aprooval because hes more afraid of losing her, than staying true to himself (due to his lack of options or fearful/accomodating nature)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 03:36 PM
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Being liked doesnt get your dick sucked. - tldr
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 01:03 PM
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Well ofc their feelings drive them to polyandry. Men also want to fuck around
/r/MensRights20/11/25 12:29 PM
66

Privilege without responsibility
/r/MensRights19/11/25 03:21 PM
5

Lol how naive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 09:55 AM
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Its not as simple as you point out, and it depends how deep are you ready to reflect. (about yourself as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:32 PM
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Well its perspective. To me, yes its not fair, and its objectifying/animalistic. But also, womens nature/animal side is not more flattering and is equally dark so.. I always say, are you willing to give stuff up if you want others to change
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 04:52 PM
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You dont need a study to pin animalistic drives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:58 PM
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Yes i think dead bedrooms depend on that. I dont think deadbedrooms are a thing when youre her best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:17 PM
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But your reasoning is wrong. What im saying is: the rating system is the foundation. THEN on top of that you have a chance to make it work with compatibility and shared vision. It doesnt imply that just because you have the rating foundation, you are going to be ok in the long run, you simply have a precursor to have a chance at long term success (because hypergamy is met). But my theory was that simps circumvent the underlying foundation of rating, which then results in broken marriages, dead b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:11 PM
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Well i agree most people in the world go "hell yeah" "naw". But most people in the world are fine with relationships failing, complaining about divorces, getting cheated etc. And yes its all part of human experience. But i think autistic people are on to something when they break down what makes people stick together. Like im still not convinced that the numbering system doesnt exactly happen at the backs of the minds of people. I can promise you people dont think initially "i rate them 7.37". B…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:30 PM
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They dont. A guy who is a 3 should date a 2-3. Issue with "performing mannerisms" and "gaming up" is eventually it still leads to failed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:11 PM
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Its all genes in my opinion. And with that i dont mean just looks. People simp because realistically they dont have that much to offer, relative to the woman. Its just a market exchange. Simps paired with the correct match can do whatever and its gonna be a good relationship down the line. But they choose to fawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:09 PM
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Im saying, if if i find a girl thats my match, i can be an awkward goof fuck and its still gonna be fine, because she is fine with my genes. The issue with simping is circumventing genes with money/effort. Which men ultimately have a deep need for - which should be taken to escorts, flings, NOT ltrs. Thats my entire premise
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:43 PM
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I dont agree. I think the central issue is that simps commit to women who are just slightly out of their league (experience plays a part). And these women LOVE having a guy fawn over their demands. I dont think mannerisms matter at all, if one picks right - a woman thats his level or beneath so hypergamy is met on her behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:49 PM
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Men want to fuck more women, but have a woman at home that is only his.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:45 PM
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Men look at other men as boys if they dont have a family, or a woman at home
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:07 PM
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Did anyone even read the post? Its about getting sexual highs and hot woman experience out of your body, with sugaring. So that they DONT simp for hot women,, and eventually commit to someone who would have liked them from the get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:02 PM
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I dont think men want monogamy as much as they want their woman NOT fucking other men. They definitely want family though, as its part of what their status depends on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:16 PM
1

So you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:41 PM
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Men compete for women though, so its not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:18 PM
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Thing is, its not double standards. Its differences. What men value in women and vice versa is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:09 PM
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Interesting, i dont think thats a common take. Although, I do think theres an inherent difference in how men see "sharing" their women, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:04 PM
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Theres a lot of collective gaslighting happening when it comes to male experience. I think thats what OP is trying to get to, inviting reflection and clarifying things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:02 PM
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Would you be ok with your man having another family alongside of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:57 PM
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Ive found its mostly a common wants "I will not be controlled" taken to an extent that they no longer wish to even consider if what theyre doing is disrespectful towards their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:56 PM
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The spouse hate jokes is a result of a bond that is strong enough so you can actually explore that element of a relationship imho. We all hate some aspects of people we are with. Unless we rotate people for hedonism
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:47 PM
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You nailed it. Thing is, ive met a lot of open minded women who really do respect variety in presentation. But when it comes to respect theres a difference between "respect as a person" and "respect as submission/authority". And the latter is most always the one tied to what a womans body responds to. (in my limited experiences). I have/had a bi woman friend that seems somewhat like you have described yourself, and i can tell theres a wound in there about her own identity as a woman. I even foun…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:31 PM
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I dont know, i felt healthy getting laid - and also respected. Not so much a "i need to get off thing", just need to be accepted somewhere, as a man. I do enjoy the idea of being more of my authentic vulnerable self, and id even have sex differently and more gently, but that doesnt seem to happen, and moreso - i felt like the men you talk about never really get respected. Which again leads to relationship breakdown no?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:12 PM
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Im like that but it never got me anywhere in life nor with women lol. Only when i started to act more masculine did i start getting laid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:06 PM
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Why? Whats the deal with trans and bi
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:41 PM
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Thing is, strong is healthy/attractive. Weak is unhealthy/unattractive. Its the same thing for men. Its just brain screening for whos the safe option to pass your dna on with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:11 AM
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Its already happening. But its funny when you bring up giving romance/money to another woman, they immediately change their tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:50 PM
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Lust is carnal, attraction is a mix of factors
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:45 AM
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Attraction and lust/desire are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:21 AM
3

Lol interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:23 AM
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Lol never thought about this.
/r/MensRights14/11/25 02:35 PM
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Nah, husband is the owner, wife is the ceo (at home).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:33 PM
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No divorce rates related to income dynamics. Its just hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 11:11 AM
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Well not according to actual stats and divorce rates
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 10:18 AM
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You assume its resentment tho. Im starting to see it as ok, its just biology again. Sex doesnt work on reasoning or morality, thats the central issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 10:02 AM
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Its nature. How much we embody that nature is individual, goes for men and women. It lurks in all of us. Its not even podcasts, basically Bible depicts the woman in a certain way that women also dont like. I dont think women like mirrors in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:50 PM
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Men have no problem accepting their dark side. Women are much more strategic about it since it can mess with how theyre perceived
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:48 PM
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I dont think its that. Those podcasts talk about unflattering aspects of a womans nature, to which they feel theyre being hated on
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:13 PM
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It should be a transparent convo really. Our pasts matter. Imagine i dont bring up something like using drugs in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:30 PM
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Totally. Even asking about her past is trying to get labelled as toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:24 PM
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But theyre not looking for an equal, theyre looking for a superior to lead them but treats them as equal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:42 PM
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We are tho. Reflection is a tiny part of our existence. Number of subconcious content is in multiples to rational thought. Besides, sex is the drive of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:07 PM
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Lol its everywhere in animal kingdom
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:02 PM
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It literally did. Our brains release dopamine upon interacting with quality genes. You are literally biologically motivated to experience good genes better. Women fawn and drop boundaries for hot men as well. Its just biology
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:01 PM
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I dont get the problem with convenience. Doing serial monogamy over and over again just to get temporary chemical highs that last up to 2 years doesnt seem like the way to go? Its just instability
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:56 AM
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It doesnt work because biology isnt about morality. The stay at home dad isnt celebrated because the womans vagina doesnt get wet for it. Simple as that. Women can say what they respect all day, and they do, same as when they tell fat women “youre brave and pretty just like that”, its all virtue signaling. What they respond to is just biology, it aint culture
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:31 AM
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Or receive emotional love from men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:45 PM
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Your reaction is funny
/r/seduction10/11/25 01:26 PM
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Lol
/r/seduction10/11/25 01:18 PM
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Nice is reactive = feminine, not assured and leading. Which is whats unattractive in the first place, women react to power only, its not a moral trait
/r/seduction10/11/25 12:39 PM
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Totally this. Workplace is way more taxing than staying at home lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:15 PM
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Totally this. Dating should feel *natural*. And if you started out as a weirdo, youll always be one. Even if you turn into maxxx or whatever - its always highschool. It doesnt mean youre doomed, and what i mean by this, you can get good looks style etc (think Mark Zuckerberg) but the quality of the relationships youre gonna get is going to be off with normie women used to normie men. The underlying respect just isnt there. So i totally agree, find weirdo women who find conventionally attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:10 PM
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Romance is basically a fantasy that a woman needs because she isnt aroused by her man. Hot men need very little romance investment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:16 PM
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Its not about value as a person. Its value as a ltr material
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:13 PM
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Ive found theres zero point in discussing anything with women, theyre simply too self involved to reflect. Its best to let them do their thing and choose one that likes your genes anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:12 PM
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I still dont think thats the case for majority of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 11:34 AM
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That hasnt been the case in decades now has it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:09 PM
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Or he had confidence to deliver the jokes in a funnier way because the woman was his man genetically imho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:46 PM
2

Yeah but men spend more on women than vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:02 PM
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TLDR - we are all animals, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:54 AM
2

Well, my ex was not girlboss but rather a tough, street savy and very dominant and strong willed person. She always said she doesnt want to be lead, and wants to lead and she even told me (ill protect you), being a ND goober myself. Thing is, i just think its fiction. Because nature of romantic relationship is that dynamic - basically to lead is to give, to be lead is to receive. And women prefer receiving, and if they lead its sort of emasculating. I have my own neurosis which contributed, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:34 PM
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Totally. Hierarchy exists for genes mating order, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:22 PM
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Im saying sex and lust is dark and animalistic. We can lust after someone we hate. And its not sustainable, its not about purity culture, its just about what you feed. If you go around feeding lust with no ability to create loving emotional bonds, you cant go back easily. Im not religious for example but im starting to get the bible stuff. Its just reducing chaos and delayed gratification. Like you can go and do gambling early on, its fun and its dopamine, but what is it doing to your brain long…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:04 AM
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Its not a must its just id relate to someone better if we are also into some of the techy/smart things. Am neurodivergent tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:58 AM
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Nah, i definitely look at a womans job
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 08:38 PM
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Well i dont think that part is up for debate. What women (and men) lust after is definitely not what we love. Will all women act on that lust (with the pool boy), ofcourse not. But RP men arent RP so that they dont get cheated on, theyre there because they percieve womens psychology a certain way. As for love/lust, theres a reason lust is deemed as the mortal sin. Humans arent everything BP talks about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:02 PM
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But how do you know its gotten you further? I think its all perspective really, i think BP want to make a personal connection with women so it works. RPs want to see their women become an animal for them, not be their sweet teddy bear while she lusts for the pool boy. Which is success? Depends on perspective i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:46 PM
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I agree in theory, its the only way. Women nowdays want to have a bit of fun. We should work on our emotional and attachment needs, go 50-50, drop the chivalry and just treat them as options too. In practice its difficult, biology wants us to make her special.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:39 PM
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Unconscious is everything, most of our desires beliefs and motives are unconsious. Intent and conscious is what you try to reframe reality into, and often whats politically correct but dishonest, and what you dare to say to others and to your partner. Reality is much deeper than that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:34 PM
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Thats the entire point, its not conscious, its subconscious. Most of power/sexuality is about mans ability to dominate other men, indirectly hence protecting the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:21 PM
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Dig deeper
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:18 PM
1

And why is it hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:31 PM
1

You tell me? Why are stronger men more successful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:36 AM
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Its what they react to under the hood. The reason (what they want) is often different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:11 PM
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Well think about it. Its just an extension of our animal sides. Women love being jealous of the man they have getting attention. Hell even cheating is an indicator of power on his behalf. Men arent like that at all, they just want to lock down the one they have and be their hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:03 PM
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Nah. If he loves her more: she eventually divorces and rationalizes it in any way -> dead bedroom -> divorce. If she loves him more: he may cheat but shes always #1 and wife that gets everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:52 PM
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Money authority and attractiveness translate to overall power. I agree for protection its often about sense of safety and efficacy, but its intertwined. A relationship does need balance, but vast majority of divorces are initiated by women. To offset that, i think its better when the woman needs that man. Men hardly ever divorce, they just want stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:16 PM
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Because subconsciously he can protect her if she isnt a threat. (she wont leave). And she wont leave if hes the best she can do (she admires him). Look around you, who protects whom? By definition those with more power protect those with less power.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:53 PM
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No im saying the mans natural role is to protect the one he choses. But thats usually when he has a bit more power in the relationship. When the woman has the complete power, hes mostly bending over backwards to keep her pleased (princess treatment) while his needs are mostly ignored (because hes too scared to lose her) - which a lot of women seem to want lately
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:34 PM
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Basically they want to be spoiled, instead of pleasing their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:36 PM
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True but men dont love any better. Men are in love with a romantic fantasy - because if you really saw women as a genetic filter for power and resources - and youre annoyed with it, do you actually love that woman or a figment of your own imagination? I agree on other parts its just both men and women are fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:06 AM
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Actually society is built on mens drive for competition to actually have sex. And add on top of that our gym/beauty/health industry - its all basically to have more health and sexual power!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:03 PM
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Yeah but thats what im saying, guys that can get away with more are the guys she submitted to on an animal level. Its what redpillers talk about exclusively, in an obnoxious way. But its what women try to deny thats also kinda toxic (to silence clueless men).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:04 PM
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Not really, I value empathic women with creative or intelligent careers. This woman tho i was flying over like a rabid dog, and not even lust, she generated so much dopamine that my brain practically painted her as a different person. Thats what happens when someone is gifted via gifts of nature, our brains change how we see reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:57 PM
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I dont feel like engaging in this any more because us men do the same. I dropped standards (what i value in a woman career wise) when i was involved with an adventurous woman with a fantastic body. TLDR _ we are animals. I just dont like the part where women try to deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:37 PM
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They def throw away their standards because lust basically shuts down reason. Its standards for oneself and for the other person. Not even talking about sexual acts im talking personality changes of self and what is acceptable in the other person under the influence of lust. Which is why men are annoyed. As its basically gaslighting of men that its all about doing your house chores
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:24 PM
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Its not really boundaries, its just inhibitions go out the window under certain conditions. The more lust = fewer inhibitions = more reckless and slutty behaviour. And its automatic because the woman also wants it. Things like finishing in her mouth, on her face etc, acts of submition. Like some women do give their boring guys these experiences but what men hate is that in the presence of a hot man who actually evokes primal lust in her, these acts of submission are basically automatic and natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:17 PM
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To be fair i dont think its toddlers. I think most people are unable to see the big picture because they either dont have to, or arent autistic researchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:28 PM
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Ive no doubts that men will twist the game so they have power. But its precisely what women are doing too. Moralizing and emotionally manipulating to achieve power. Thats why i stopped having these discussions with people. Only someone who can truly breakndown society and humans into a fair system is to be trusted. While being true to genuine needs of men and women. The rest is just noise from frustrated individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:18 PM
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Yeah but youre assigning morality into something that simply is. Its not "good" that some men are better off than others, but they just are. Its all perspective really, im not saying lets be animals, but it really is all a gene simulation out there. Is feminism always morally good? Depends who you ask. Ive found all the people who moralise, moralise just to get their needs met, not to actually understand things or seek whats best overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:47 AM
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Genes play out totally. Success doesnt matter as much as genes (and by genes i dont mean just looks)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:28 AM
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Thing is, is it oppression or nature? Nature is an uneven system
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:26 AM
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I think the only solution for this issue is for men to embrace serial monogamy like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:24 AM
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Yea well lets ask your dude who is the rock while the woman is throwing tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:33 PM
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What we resist, persists. Thats why open discussions trump moralising imho
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:00 PM
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Here we go, the moralising. Instead of evaluating my thought process perhaps observe what women and men actually do in practice. Classic case of turning a blind eye to reality. All while nature reings behind closed doors
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:47 PM
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Theres no getting away from gender roles, ever. Simply because sex. Feminism and equality is a concept of a mind, an ideology. But what gets us humans aroused and trusting is never alignment on analytical truth - its always what we respond to. The moment you put sex on the table, which is what is the subconsious driver of our behaviour, things change and reason goes out the window. Women will value certain things over others, as will men. It tends to be difficult things (which we respect). A wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:37 PM
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Tldr - feminism is a power struggle under the guise of morality/equality - same as left wing politics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:31 PM
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Totally this, its really a cognitive dissonance in their eyes. They dont really care if men are better off or worse off for using sex workers. All they care is that women arent judged if they choose to do it (empowered queen), but also judgemental of men for doing it (men are using their resources to get sex elsewhere). Truly selfish creatures, but i guess us men are as well. Humans suck
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:45 AM
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This is it. Youre right, my relationship with a gothy woman was WAY better for both of us compared to the ex i had that was in the cool/popular circle. I definitely have a thing for gothy women and the backgrounds also match, and yes i am/was a metalhead. How do i get into that scene lol Edit: also most gothy women i met i immediately feel both safe with and attracted to them and their witchy vibe. Problem is: i dont do clubs or clubbing. Even bars are tricky for me due to sensory overload. Im g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:47 AM
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You are literally at a developmental level of a toddler, but you are using societal advancements as a way to rationalize it. Now you may opt to find that life more satisfactory, but it doesnt change anything. Autistic people advance aspects of society at the cost of their brains sensory processing, health, nervous system work, organisation, intuition, life learning, often clumsiness as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:42 AM
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Hes expected to be her rock, protect her in dangerous situations and provide more resources than her. Its roles
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:39 AM
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What autistic people do is a different discussion. Autistic people never developed key areas of the brain that deal with emotional processing. Look up some neuroscience materials, i really like sebern fishers work. Its a developmental disorder. A person didnt develop, only a mind did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:04 PM
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This is refreshing, you really do get it. I also wonder if a ND woman unmasked around me fully, would i find her attractive or find her to be like a disabled child? Because thats what happens, imagine a NT woman putting her security into a mans hands and he starts showing 4-5 year old emotions and behaviours. Like shes either gonna get worried, scared or disgusted. Or maternal. and neither of those are good. Serial monogamy is ok but eventually youre gonna want that long bond (at least i do). Iv…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:30 PM
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Not really, its more to do with the arousal and dopamine levels in my brain
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:58 PM
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Very interesting perspective. You get it. Totally agree with you on the dark side of humanity and the whole hierarchy thing. Future is kinda 'tism i agree but also, do you ever unmask? Do you unmask with your spouse? Do they even care, as long as the money is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:50 PM
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Well i can be sex repulsed but also hypersexual, my brain is a mess
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:45 PM
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Theyre normal because their brains developed. Autism isnt about good/bad or moralizing, its just a developmentally stunted brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:42 PM
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I mean my romantic stories are all over the place, as i have a WHOLE lot of brain stuff happening. Way i got romance was bizarre, and in a strange fake dissociative performative way. When i dont mask or dissociate, i dont even know how to connect, and often cant even feel romance for women, while sexually it seems annoying (overstimulating). So you basically need romance (imagination/dopamine), and sex drive to even have a drive to want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:03 PM
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Its needs man. Likes matter, but needs matter more. People get together to get needs met
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:57 PM
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Yeah but youre simplifying it, its not “any woman will do”, but we bond and then a woman becomes someone youre fond of. Not saying we dont have humane layers on top. Its just that cognitive reframing is cognitive, and exists in a more abstract layer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:41 PM
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In my experience all women judged all men living with parents. And same women didnt judge women living with parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:46 PM
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Yeah but youre reframing it which is a higher step in relationship abstraction. Im sure most avg men with not a ton of options just want a warm body and smile at home and a womans touch. Esp animal side that wants regular sex. Plus fear of loneliness/abandonment. People just are unable to admit the uncomfortable truths, and yes the extra icing on top is happy etc. I actually dont want to do what you do, because you are labeling things as good/bad productive/counterproductive - instead of what si…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:44 PM
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Thing is, who women choose to organise a life with and who women submit to out if pure admiration and desire are two different things. And since the differentiating factor is genetic superiority, men will always have a hard time swallowing that not only he cant “protect” his life partner from a genetically superior man, she would actually submit to an extent where she would do the nastiest sluttiest things with that dude - basically being dominated by him at his mercy - like an animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 08:03 AM
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Until they need them, then its emotional manipulation season
/r/MensRights24/10/25 10:36 AM
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But theyre queer, you dont have sex? Youre friends basically
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 02:01 PM
1

Yup fully agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:05 AM
3

So what would be a scholar per your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:58 PM
2

I mean generally we are open to discussing thoughts and ideas to get to the truth. I generally find refusal to debate stuff an attempt to protect personal beliefs one does not wish to lose/change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:47 PM
1

So you feel strongly about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 05:36 PM
1

No one created it, its natural forces
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:48 PM
3

Most of em are people stuck in childhood
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:49 AM
2

Thing is, its the strongest drive. There are other drives but they have less power/intensity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:47 AM
1

Mother nature
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:47 AM
1

Totally, but its not personal, its nature. Its literally genes fighting for survival through us - thats it. That said what you described is subc and natural but we also have a mind. Paradox of humans is that just because the mind is happy (stability) doesnt mean the subconcsious side is, and vice versa. Although mb im wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:46 AM
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I mean red pill is accepting we are animals first. Sex runs the world and our bodies respond to things that create sexual arousal for us . I believe red pill is basically: no amount of thinking replaces animal aspects within us. Sad and disappointing, accepting we are vessels for genomes and breeding basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:36 AM
1

Well my theory is that men ad women are the same, neither can nor want to love. Its just about how much that person fits the idea of what you want from a man/woman. Men also have an imaginary version of women while also wanting their bodies. Same shit as women with mens wallets. So is it really love when its all about what can a person do for eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:01 AM
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I have no idea what you are trying to communicate? That you are a woman who didnt have those experiences and got with a man who did and it worked out? Or something else? What im identifying with the OP is that hes doing a lot of black/white thinking which is a bit extreme. I do legitimately think that its problematic when an inexperienced guy gets with a very experienced woman. My ex for example slept with 50+ men which is not about the number, it did indicate a more “go with things” attitude wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:41 PM
5

I mean you seem more emotional than him. Which makes me think you are experiencing this from a reactionary place
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:20 PM
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The problem with nice mean is that we want to label it as good/bad. But in reality all women do is screen for weak/strong. Nice/manipulative etc is just weak not strong. Men can be morally spinned in any way but it signifies strong - which may be of use for a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:16 PM
5

Well you didnt argue claims, all you did was label his words with adjectives that indicate you find it displeasing no?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:11 PM
10

He wasnt speaking poison talk at all. He wasnt envious or seething, if anything he was grounded realistic and real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:39 AM
3

I dont think red pillers have peace with it tbh. Id say most are dissapointed by it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:37 PM
5

Envy
/r/MensRights11/10/25 02:59 PM
-2

I used to think that was wrong but then i realised it serves a purpose. Societally we benefit from men who conquer women, and chaste women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:44 PM
5

Well relationship maybe, but the interesting argument its asshole traits that have the edge, which signals danger and protection, which is tied to sexual conquest. So ugly asshole who is dominant more likely evokes sexual arousal than ugly regular guy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:17 PM
18

Everywhere in nature, nature is harsh and ruthless. Primal game about survival of the fittest. I dont know why humans would be any different
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:55 PM
64

You are spot on. Its just that id go further and say, that not only are the concepts separate, it may actually be the case that negative or dark triad character traits are actually attractive - in the sense that they evoke lust
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:44 PM
1

For the large part yes. Society needs us strong and functional, not emotionally attuned, regardless of what women say.
/r/MensRights09/08/25 11:59 AM
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Why though? Men dont say it to be spiteful, they just speak their own truth. World doesnt care if you have problems as a man because world doesnt wait for you to bring your value
/r/MensRights07/08/25 12:44 PM
1

Im ok looking and called cute, also depending on the vibe quite friendly with women. But if youre neurodivergent (like me), women just dont get aroused enough to feel sexual a lot of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:25 PM
1

Id say women experience a lot of spontaneous desire, its just not for men who they partner up with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:15 PM
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Im just like you. I love regular women who fight and work hard and have their money. Its just feminist who are reacting from a very wounded place, and cant see theyre actually doing a hateful power struggle.
/r/MensRights06/08/25 12:46 PM
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I think youre the one with damaging beliefs. “Enjoy life” is somewhat carefree and irresponsible. Relationships are complex and go way beyond pleasure. Who you attach to is huge. So many men get into relationships that end up hurting them in the long run, not to mention endless marriages that fail due to dead bedrooms and decades if building lost. And for what - people like you who cant admit the possibility that our nature is very calculated and animalistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:38 AM
3

What does this have to do with self respect. The blackpill premise is that treatment is tied to genes - basically leverage. A 4,5 that dates a 6,7 gf will likely simp for her and theres a high chance intimacy/sex falls out. Basically we try as hard as the availability of the genes is there. A 4,5 guy who dates a 3 woman treats her much more casual because on some level he knows he can replace her. Same as that 6,7 woman that dated the 4,5 man. Its all genes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:15 AM
1

If she laughs at your jokes she likes you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:11 AM
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Nah, im saying its all genes. Meaning if youre 4,5 youre in trouble trying to date a 6,7 - even if she accepts. You fawn or ppl please, she doesnt respect your boundaries because we all bow down to genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:09 AM
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Got hopeful talking to feminist and realising shes actually more selfish and hypocritical than typical women
/r/MensRights06/08/25 10:27 AM
5

But blackpill is true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 08:31 AM
12

They get mad when you suggest this. And also call you insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:44 AM
20

Women are like liberals. Moral in public, animals behind closed doors
/r/MensRights05/08/25 11:14 AM
13

This is just massive cope lol. Basically men "toxically" compete -> get most respect/resources -> most women attention and sex. Youre free to opt out of the game, but the game has rules and rewards. Which is ultimately tied to sex and how our brains interpret cues for baby making which is at its core.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 12:20 PM
3

I think biggest thing is genetics and self esteem. Both are highly dependant on your childhood and parents. Good genes with strong self love is like, then you put the person in good clothes and shit and they shine. A person thats autistic and hates themselves from trauma just attracts predators when investing into looks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:57 PM
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This cant be real. I want to say its the opposite - if youre sweet and caring to a crazy gal - she eats you for breakfast after she gets bored, and walks all over you. Because shes used to chaos and impulsivity, so deep down respects only what she fears. Would love to be proven wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:09 PM
1

I agree, my only problem with enm is that most men want to put their dick into most womens vaginas. Wheres most women dont want the penis of most men in them. This imbalance has been historically solved through different ways, namely culture and shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:40 PM
4

Thing is men love it even when they know theyre getting played. The desire to put semen into pretty things is at the core
/r/MensRights24/06/25 12:23 PM
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Totally this. Thats why i advocate for blackpill simply - you have to be her genetically best option to set healthy boundaries. That said - men should diversify their options, get some emotional validation from women friends while sexual needs should be split among being a side dude, travel mode hookups, single moms, and prostitutes. Men are chasing sex and nurturing and its not fair game
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:26 PM
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Totally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:53 AM
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I dont think its lazy. Its lazy if you see it as “it applies to all men and women”. But typically its “mens and womens nature is like this” and different people integrate that nature/biology to different amount
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:11 PM
4

But the girl does that as well, its inevitable
/r/MensRights04/06/25 09:15 AM
0

Because woman carries the womb which can create babies and strengthen the tribe, while sperm is expendable. This kind worked until women decided they dont need protection because they dont like being seen as helpless, and want to see thenselves as powerful. Until shit hits the fan and they actually do
/r/MensRights03/06/25 10:47 AM
3

I mean world is about sex literally.
/r/MensRights31/05/25 06:04 PM
2

I mean the drive to chase a hot woman is about as close to feeling alive as you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:00 PM
1

No i dont have trouble accepting that. Or well i do a bit. I have intimacy and commitment issues due to trauma so im enjoying futile chase more than stability that a 4 would give me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:54 PM
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Thing is. Society pretty much functions around validating womens feelings no matter what they are. Setting firm boundaries pretty much eliminates women from your life as theyre gonna act like hurt children in that case
/r/MensRights28/05/25 12:49 PM
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Its not about women really. Its law of power - we mostly dont treat those we have power over well. It just happens that when a man has power over woman - theres more sexual attraction. Ultimately doesnt matter if youre man or woman.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 04:19 PM
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Its to funny. When youre empathetic and considerate, she likes it mentally but not romantically. I really think man being more blunt to lead is liked because it signals his ability to fight in the world to get resources (for her)
/r/seduction26/05/25 01:22 PM
1

I fully agree. People basically defend their ego. Youve pointed out one aspect of human nature
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:49 PM
2

Im in a strange place in life rn where im trying to figure me out so i dont really care much personally. You have a point but to an extent. I guess im annoyed that i dont have the genes to lock down the women i lust after. I guess for those women, i know they will be around only as long as the dates are fun (in their experiences). They simply have a higher cost and its all a game. You are right i could get commitment from women that are compatible, but im also scared of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:41 AM
4

Im talking long term. Over the course of 10-20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:36 AM
5

Thats not what the saying is at all. Its about what you get out of a relationship once you get it, if youre just a random dude. A lot of money and support for not a lot of sex or not enthusiastic sex and low commitment/nurturing. All because women know sex is high in demand and options feel good. Basically men pay to lock down and women counteract with optionality. Its all a transaction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:24 AM
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Totally this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:48 PM
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Just because someone decided something rationally over the last 10 years, isnt going to change thousands of years of evolution and biology. Men, be smart
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:33 AM
2

Its just strength basically
/r/seduction21/05/25 02:45 PM
1

Yes. Its subconscious tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:10 PM
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No i meant, in front of the women. From men ofc. I dont think women do much for themselves that isnt tied ultimately to winning men over
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:57 PM
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I mean i agree with you. But that is my point - men and women enjoy feeling attractive. But the way you feel attractive requires people who are attracted to you. You can increase your chances of evoking that reaction if youre a woman - by wearing very revealing clothes. All im asking is, why is the choice to get that feeling of a high (without cheating) normalized in the case of women , but not if a guy chooses to get some likes on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:55 PM
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Idk? Maybe you want to receive looks without allowing men into your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:51 PM
-2

But thats the thing. Again its not about what men do. Revealing clothing is tied to a sense of pleasure derived from evoking lust in men. Its not about what men DO. Its about what women choose
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:51 PM
-1

Yes but we arent arguing if theyre getting hit on or not. We are arguing is their behaviour inviting that. In the form of extra revealing clothes. Like i dont mind if ppl do it, i just want people to be honest about the why, which is not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:36 PM
-5

What youre doing is conscious yes. But the entire premise of why you feel good doing that is because its attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:31 PM
-10

I dont get it. No one said shes going to cheat. Its basically about how much attention received from the appropriate sex is acceptable? I go on tinder for validation, but its expected from me not to do that in relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:42 PM
2

Biggest problem is, men keep saying one thing, women keep saying another. And thats all because women think “respect” is “i value this person and it makes me feel good”. While men see that respect is her being “damn this guy, kinda hot”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:47 AM
-4

But think about it. Womans most common fantasy is often tied to power, not some technique. Fantasy trumps technique so hard when it comes to passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:53 AM
1

Its all about coregulation in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:31 PM
1

Holy youre right. Divorce rates going down consistently across last 20 years. Now, idk if people marry as much but this is blowing me away, i thought everyone is like on their 5th marriage or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:16 PM
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Totally. Never lead with money, learned that the hard way. Filter em out sooner by being stingy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:37 AM
3

This. Problem with therapy is that its not genuine and authentic. Its a paid service, so in a way a fantasy. Its like paying for prostitutes to get intimacy needs met
/r/MensRights16/05/25 09:12 AM
1

Would love to see stats on that. Everything im seeing points towards less commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:09 AM
1

Ok great for you, but are you the rule or the exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:54 PM
1

I mean im jaded yes. Reality isnt all about red pill. But my problem is when people deny it. Reality is all of those things combined. Another problem i see is: people say look at people who have relationships. And I say, well look at it over a lifetime - look at divorce rates. Im not interested in what works to get a relationship, im interested in what makes people stay together for longer than 5-10 years. Because the trend im seeing is: Sex/short term -> Commit (to secure and feel safe or have …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:18 PM
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I dont think its about male/female. Its about masculinity/femininity. And if it werent the case, we wouldnt have women trying to be more masculine. Its basically a lense of power. Generating resources and not being emotional equates to power. Being nurturing doesnt net one power. So its all perspective. Through some lense if men hold more power, they are in a way superior. And it could shift as well, if women had more power, they would eventually start seeing themselves superior to men. All it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:08 AM
1

Im not sure what you mean by that. I mean life in itself carries lessons that are often repetetive. Whoever we are subjectively, we share a similar human nature. We are a set of traits and needs, surely we can find patterns over lifetimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:15 PM
1

I like big data. I think people are very predictable in the long run. They just want the fantasy and want to think theyre special. We are all patterns
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:54 PM
1

If you can be not nice, dont be nice. A lot of people have brains, childhood and trauma/neurodivergence which makes them nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:53 PM
2

Nice is just sensitive/anxious really. And its kind of weakness, its not resilience. If you approach "nice" girls, it actually may end up a lot better really. Theyre just as unsure, and sometimes even find regular masculinity as too much. My experience at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:44 PM
0

I agree. But at that point stay a kid. Men work subconsciously to have resources to put into woman, and then offsprings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:02 PM
2

In a way its rotten. I think more info on divorce will hopefully educate everyone. As for biology - not much you can do there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:15 PM
1

Sure but the ability to vet comes from experiences, not just watching a youtube channel. A dude who was invisible, went to college and goes to work has no idea where healthy boundaries are. And bigger problem, these dudes want to have kids and fall into traps with first women that gives them attention. And the childish romance is making them think the woman loves them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:06 PM
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Problem is, you cant have standards if you dont have options. And you also need experience, simps are simps because theyre clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 12:59 PM
2

Maybe our reality is bleak, and blue pill just tries to make it comfortable and digestable?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:13 AM
2

Im a dude - but people saying they love women unconditionally is horseshit. What it means - they accept the woman, because often women are difficult children themselves, and the guy cant be arsed to keep repeating cycles, or his options arent big enough. Its all one big transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:02 PM
1

The point was that its not love. Body and money is attraction. Men cant get over that they see women as utility just as how they complain theyre seen as wallets. Its “what you can do for me”. Not i see your mind and your soul. Sure you find more comfort in being appreciated for your body but eventually thats fleeting too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:14 AM
1

I mean yes part of it is product. But part of it is cope. Its basically a coping mechanism, if you do this you get laid more, and you kinda do, some options open up. But in grand scheme of things - its all momentary, its not big picture stuff. Then they divorce and blame womens nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:34 PM
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The more i think about it, the more im starting to think RP is actually a coping mechanism of inability to accept truth, rather than the truth - in dating world. Like their mode of operandi is fighting life, to hold frame, game your wife etc its like a battlefield every day - because they couldnt accept their place in the gene pool. And funny enough - they complain about flaky oportunistic nature of women, while actually creating that scenario, because they want to self improve themselves to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:20 PM
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Totally. I think redpill is cope for black pill. Not in a sense that everything is doom, its just that genetics speak for themselves. I say go black pill and then blue for relationships. Or stick to red if you want to be the fantasy side dude forever. A lot of red pill men are avg joes who use effort and performing and keeping frame to cover up the fact they wont get the treatment of someone who will effortlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:31 PM
1

No one told me that. Id rather be loved for my body than for a salary, but that is also empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:43 PM
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Lol not at all. Both is utility and objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 03:05 PM
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Totally agreed. Im a dude but guys say as much bs as women. The whole “women love opportunistically” while they actually love a woman for her body beauty and obedience. Its not love at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:14 PM
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Its cope because youre using good faith to counteract the reality of women - or at least majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:03 PM
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Lol the cope
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:50 PM
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I really need to get off of reddit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:00 PM
1

Youre so “women are wonderful”. Women men dont tend to think about inferior superior. Its not conscious. It tends to be that men lead women, and people surrender. Id say for every man you describe as awful due to power, theres a woman who has more power in the relationship that is emotionally abusive towards the man. Also what you say about power - yes power corrupts. But its also the thing most women want by proxy, and its definitely what they react to - with giggling and arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:57 PM
1

Thats wild if you believe those numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:17 PM
7

I really think these women hate themselves and are just taking it out on men
/r/MensRights06/05/25 12:41 PM
1

Whatever, not if you step out of your room. Hookups are plentiful in this day and age. Protection is there and also even abortions are normalised
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:37 PM
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Im not defending men. Im saying our nature is fucked up. Red pill men zero in on it as if its the only thing in the equatiom, but blue pill women negate it and pretend as if it isnt there. Also your “some men” comment is useless. Some women also want the commodity of a hubby while they disrespect him. Bottom line is - a lot of people who have the upper hand will disrespect the other person. The only difference is - sexual dynamics works that theres a lot more sex and arousal when its the men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:36 PM
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My point was your downplaying the romance aspect to which women mostly are lead by hypergamy. And all to sound noble and politically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:28 PM
-1

Compatibility is an indicator of friendship, not romance. Looks and status are indicators of romance, not friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:02 AM
-4

Womens idea of equal is a man whos better than her, treating her as equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:00 AM
-1

Sex workers even the field. We all have sexual needs, but since women possess a vagina, all they need to say is “its open” and men line up. Men dont have that liberty, albeit super attractive men have more options. But men have resources - so sex workers do great for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:32 AM
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If i dont have kids, my partner gets my priority. Its not that crazy to want the same in return. In the end we get into it to get needs met. Why wouldnt i have my partner so we can go do cool stuff together over weekends, and instead commit to someone whos gonna want a weekend with their kids every so often. Its a bad investment to commit to that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:49 PM
9

Thats such a cheeky way of putting it. Its cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:48 PM
1

Also how are you red pill if you cant chew on men sexuality, because if you accept it, you accept your part in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:26 AM
1

I just asked chat gpt, i suggest you do the same, namely differences in limbic brain as well as levels of prolactin and estrogen - the emotional side of life. Sometimes i dont understand why you need a study for everything. Take a 1000 soldiers or navy seals. How often are those men and how often are they women? That will tell you everything. We are different and built for different things. Sure some can do what the other does but women have gotten so damn insecure with their lack of power jeez
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:21 PM
1

I mean take 20 women you know and then take 20 men you know. Look at how they respond to life stressors and difficult situations and difficult people. Most often women need protection or the whole concept of “someone to be her rock”. Theyre way more likely to cry too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:13 PM
1

No id say nervous systems of men and women are on average different. Women are simply less resilient and more emotional (on average). Then you add the societal conditioning on top. By life teaches women i mean lived experience of women is that their feelings matter, unlike mens which is mostly a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:07 PM
1

This is tiring. You proved not all men in prison are weak. I proved your statement about using men in prison in the first place doesnt make sense. Women want to follow feelings - cool. But somehow they want to be seen as dutiful and steady as well. You cant have both. Its always like that with women - want to do their way but also control how others see them. Its tiring
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:19 PM
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Men in prison are minority of men - and society shuns them. Exactly because they arent stable and reliable. In essence - they endulged their emotions in a destructive way. So you proved my point exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:54 PM
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Society loves a steady competent man and a warm woman - basically dad and mom. Take away elements that make a man a good dad, and elements that make a woman a good mom and see how things change
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:35 PM
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Why are you getting heated lol. You are completely wrong. Men who use that term, dont complain about being commited. They humorously use the term to parody the collective futility and absurdity of life. When people get together, the joys the sacrifices the inevitable staleness, the drawbacks of being a man, the limitations of male experience, the delusion of womens experience, sacrifice for kids, for society. They figured it out, thats the endgame. So why repeat the cycle. We werent born to be f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:08 PM
3

Its true tho. Men want peace and women want emotional highs/lows. Hence the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:02 PM
2

I dont know, id guess men? What does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:01 PM
0

Spreading seed isnt emotional id say, its a urge in your crotch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:57 PM
1

You didnt really address any of my points when it comes to womens toxic nature. Im just saying down underneath we are animals, if you expect men to give up the toxic animalistic traits - you have to follow suit as a woman if you are interested in fair deals. I just look at it as a whole. If women want a man who everyone wants, she is acting on her own primal urges. If she allows herself that, why shouldnt he allow his urges of spreading his seeds as many places as he wants. If you ask men to sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:47 PM
1

I didnt validate cheating or betrayal. I said the act of having sex with another woman for a man isnt in itself cheating, the cheating part is lying to your partner and concealing truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:43 PM
1

What is fucked about mans sexual nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:37 PM
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Man its biology. Rejecting the commonality of biological truths does more harm societaly than the noble quest to transcend ugly sides of humanity by putting out heads into the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:35 PM
2

I mean its just a dynamic between dominance and submission really. It just happens to be that its mostly men who are dominant and women who are submissive, mind and feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:48 PM
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I didnt say that, nowhere. Infact i think its the opposite. Id say modern women dont believe those sacrifices are worth as much as mens - which is why they often run from their nature into boss babes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:42 PM
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First of all, its not abuse in itself because our actions with person b arent actions towards person a. Now, we experience that as abusive because we experience betrayal and abandonment in that situation. But technically you could have a guy be a poly guy be a better husband than a faithful one. But again yes, most of us cant handle our loved one fucking other people. As for out nature, sure mens nature is gross, but so is womens, its just covert. We are gross because we are animals, and sex is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:35 PM
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So men nutting in women on the side is abuse? Im sure a guy can treat his woman great while still wanting women on the side. I agree that out nature is very fucked up, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:24 PM
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Well everything is ego. Womens desire to be less nurturing is ego. I dont see your point. It just goes back again to biology, man sacrificed his feeling for the global fight in society, and uses the outcome of that sacrifice to put into women, which then sacrifice themselves to nurture the home and the offspring. We are animals first with humanity on top of it, never forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:22 PM
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Idk what youre arguing at this point. Capitalism made the race more obvious, where nurturing aspects dont rank as highly in the grand scheme of chasing capital. Its all there is to it really, the same stands whether youre a man or a woman, its just women by default are more nurturing by their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:17 PM
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Men want to spread their seeds to as many variations as possible. Its just sex drive tho. You brought up adultery and mistresses but men generally want to stay married to their wives and are deep down the opposite of “its just your turn”. Mans desire to have sex on the side doesnt conflict with the mans desire to have his wife stay forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:16 PM
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Again youre talking about infidelity, which wasnt a topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:11 PM
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Its capitalism. Mens natural sacrifices result in money and status. Womens natural sacrifices result in empathetic gestures. Not exactly a fair trade. But it is what it is. Its a war between biology and minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:10 PM
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Men and women both sacrifice every day, just in different ways. This has nothing to do with men coming home to beat their wives, you only bring up an extreme example to soften the remark of women not wanting to sacrifice themselves out of a need to not appear selfish. Id say women are just unhappy with the role that was biologically assigned to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:06 PM
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Thats one way of phrasing that. Im not judging im just saying it how it is. If less and less women are interested in duty, its no wonder men do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:03 PM
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We all get complacent after years with our partner. And women are just as abusive and neglectful. Its just again, women enjoy the cycles more than men. Because they live more for current day pleasure than duty (long term)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:59 PM
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A lot of red pillers are scared little boys inside. Im talking about attitude to commitment. Having sexual urges outside of your commitment isnt the topic of the OP, its the attitude or frame towards the one you choose
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:58 PM
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That is part of it. But really not all of it. Men want it to last because they realise the futility of cycles of following emotions. Not chasing feelings that are fleeting and temporary that come with relationship cycles. Women on the other hand love surrendering to feelings which makes the experience of new highs lows and cycles more favorable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:56 PM
2

Id say its a rule that occurs often enough to treat it as a reasonable generalisation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:52 PM
1

Well men sacrifice their feelings so ofc its less stability. But its evolutionary too, man sacrificed himself for the woman, woman for the child. Its how its been for centuries. Also you take for granted the stability that you have, simply because the world listens to your feelings, because youre valued for them - for the sake of being a mom and a nurturer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:51 PM
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Well i disagree. Its not that women dont want stability. Its that theyre more fine in chaos. Life teaches women to listen to their emotions their entire lifetime. Men are incentivised the opposite - care less about emotions and follow duty. So the dependence on that structure to stay intact is much higher for men. Women bounce easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:23 PM
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Women started prioritizing their feelings and chasing dopamine - not duty, which is why men decided “why commit”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:21 PM
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Thing is its not just about romance. Central theme with men is they want stability because theyre not emotion driven. Basically once they commit they want that to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:50 PM
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Im just saying on avg love and lust are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:48 AM
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Totally, basically a man that is accomodating to women. The entire angst in men is that the qualities that generate arousal and admiration are not the qualities that make a good husband
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:13 AM
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Its truly insane, nothing matters other than their own feelings
/r/MensRights30/04/25 11:08 AM
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Yes but thats life. I think most of us women also love women for what they provide to us. The only thing why men are salty is because women have more options.
/r/MensRights27/04/25 04:21 PM
1

Hypergamy basically?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:35 AM
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No you specifically said in a shaming tone - very telling that we talk about women as if we are animals, indicating that youre not or are somehow above it. Its biology, youre an animal just as much as men, with humanity on top of it. Reproduction and sex is tied to the animal part first
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:26 AM
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Then she loves what you provide her, not you
/r/MensRights26/04/25 10:28 PM
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Humans are animals, the sexual dance is practically animalistic, its subconscious. If we were human, the arousal/sex would be tied to nurturing with domesticated men, which isnt the case at all. Stop looking at your own ego for once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:04 AM
1

Men definitely care about status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:03 PM
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No - womens icks go towards weakness. So a man being handled by another man makes him extremely weak. Ick is basically disgust towards weakness when it comes to women assessing men. Kinda nuts when you realize, they say men are toxic, but they can we worse
/r/MensRights24/04/25 08:16 PM
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Its not disney - its feelings. Its natural, altho its childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:40 PM
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So you want to start a family in the future but are avoiding dating and relationships, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:32 PM
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I think women cant accept themselves, which creates cognitive dissonance and frustration that is then projected onto men. They cant accept their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:28 PM
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Its a marker of health tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:50 PM
8

Yup, halo effect is huge
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:48 PM
1

Prostitution is easily accessable in countries even where its not legal. Its literally 3 clicks away on a random website
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:20 PM
2

Its true, women say it to manipulate. But all you guys are mad about is not the double standard, its that you cant walk away (and they can and will).
/r/MensRights22/04/25 05:14 PM
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I swear people here dont live in reality. Men chase women to put their penises inside them, and if you wont, someone else will. Provider protector is tied to commitment and comes later
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:52 PM
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I agree. But thats because there are men who derive that status solely from others. And free spirited men who dont give a fuck what others think - and this type isnt always a beta who doesnt have any to begin with. This part is wrong - for the rest i agree fully
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:37 PM
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Men are trash -> mens power is not convenient to me
/r/MensRights20/04/25 06:12 PM
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You can. Its just that a man who isnt will get more. Kinda like capitalism and ethics
/r/MensRights20/04/25 04:29 PM
1

Totally, really good value for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:28 PM
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So whats better, a woman who loves you but doesnt fulfill your needs, or a woman who doesnt love you but fulfills your needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:26 PM
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Not really. Blackpill is that genes are a marker of health. Health absolutely is universal and drives arousal. It doesnt mean all women will chose the same thing rationally, But it absolutely establishes the power dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:48 PM
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Well whats wrong about that. Guys dont do it to feel betrayed, they do it it to prevent feeling betrayed 10 years in. Blackpill isnt about blaming its about being realistic. Fight of genes and survival of the fittest. And out selection is all about genes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:14 PM
4

It sounds like self destruction really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:42 PM
2

But the chad is also liked for what he provides - dick, excitement or charisma. Only his mom loved the Chad boy - if hes lucky. We like women for what women provide too, their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:40 PM
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Just because its negative, doesnt make it wrong. No one said a mediocre relationship doesnt have happiness and fulfillment. It does mean its low on excitement, and a lot of feel good chemicals that come with feeling amazing in your skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:37 PM
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Id say in modern times - the people who call out normal healthy things are the ones with the ego. Because their ego wants us to be more than human/natural - to fit some modern idea of progressive and advanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:30 PM
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Totally, its because womens nature allows the world to "come to them", so they have little incentive to go out and pursuit things.
/r/MensRights19/04/25 08:22 PM
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Helicopter parents arent loving parents. Care is not love
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:14 PM
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Avoidant attachment is on the rise, and with that comes superficiality and dopamine chasing - simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:47 PM
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I think youre right. But theres also a funny paradox. Men who do a ton of the other - are actually doing to improve their place in social hierarchy. Which means, they may not be doing what they want, theyre doing what works and is good for them - casting a wider net. So in a way, its opposite of self confidence. Its just a perspective thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:03 PM
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This isnt true at all. The only reason why men do it to other men is because theyve learned what works in the world. Women are essentially looking for power-by-proxy, someone who is a go getter so she feels safer (and potentially her offspring). Look at subconscious reasons. The rational mind is just high level bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:37 AM
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Idk what youre on about, i did most of that with my ex. Granted she wasnt hot and is just a nerdy chick, but we had plenty of co op games in the morning type. Its just hard to have everything in one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:22 PM
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Totally. Its cognitive dissonance basically. Their egos are basically identities, to admit their biology they risk losing status or worse - identity. But theyre happy causing confusion in the meantime because they can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:53 PM
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Totally. Its just evolution. To have worth, you need someone or something to have worth to. So in society, mens worth is what they provide (protection, provisioning, safety/infrastructure), and womans worth is inherent (feelings/nurturing/vagina). Basically mom dad roles. And dont let yourself be gaslit.
/r/MensRights07/04/25 03:54 PM
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Whats worse is - the thought process of people who downvote this: "How dare someone suggest that dating is animalistic and opportunistic, that is disgusting". So it tends to be either women who: arent even aware of what theyre attracted to, are annoyed at how it paints women, or finally - love having a powerful man, but their egos cant accept that at the same time they are in a submissive position, because the world alone triggers them "no one leads me". Or its men who either believe in what wom…
/r/MensRights04/04/25 12:24 AM
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Because of power dynamics. Status of white men tends to be higher in those countries, and both men and women love the feeling of the man having that power over a woman.
/r/MensRights03/04/25 11:46 PM
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Its about the thrill of the experience, not dick. Stranger sex is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:31 PM
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Lol the level of cope
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:24 PM
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I care about a womans career because if i like her interests, thats another thing we can connect over. Also women who have steady careers show stability. Women who just go with the flow are in my eyes - less trustworthy. I predict higher chances of them changing partners or be impulsive or accept random bs, like desiring male validation. Could be wrong but would love to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:23 PM
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My guess would be that women think they benefit from male platonic friends more than men think they benefit from women platonic friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:43 PM
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I dont know what youre arguing rn really. It seems very generalistic and preachy. What i am saying is: Men and women thrive when theyre healthy. Healthy men trust themselves and the world to go compete, build stuff and chase women and sex. Sex is a sign of health. Does it mean thats all there is to life? No. Theres time to be spiritual, reflect, find meaning etc. Red pill folks can be obnoxious with their reductionist attitude to life. But its just as annoying when people show up and completely …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:02 PM
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This reply doesnt make sense. Anyone with health issue should see it as a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:59 AM
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Because if that place isnt fulfiled its a marker of low health and problems
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:03 AM
2

Just read my post again. And then read your reply. I explained it very well how women often do it. Nowhere in my example did i say the woman says “and i dont”. Women are used to being in the position where their emotions and needs are the ones that matter (for multiple reasons in men/women dynamics). Your reply is very immature
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:12 PM
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Theres truth to that for sure. But men and women lead different lives and have different brains. Ultimately a woman thats happy is satisfied. Men can be selfish and happy but theyre often not satisfied with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:23 PM
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Two of the most common examples are shaming and gaslighting. Often women cant stand when men are honest about their own needs and nature, yet are quick to drop men who dont offer that kindness to them. Gaslighting is denial of someones reality. So many men are ashamed to say "I want more sexually", and women will most of the times say "thats all you think about" or even fight it with criticism "can't believe youre thinking of that when we need X". Sinister ones will drop in comparisons to other …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:36 PM
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I think the solution for these men who enter dating in their 30s is to be honest with themselves, and not pay attention what society or women tells them. Once they get established, they can choose, are they happy with what the woman is giving them? If the woman "had her fun" and wants to use him for providing, and he is happy providing, then do that. If the woman "had her fun" and is not enthusiastic, but the man doesnt sense hes respected desired and wants more sexual joy, he should listen to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:06 PM
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Why cant you date outside your race, its 2025, who gives a shit.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 01:23 PM
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Id say an ugly man that has either charisma competence humor but most importantly not give a shit attitude, can become good provider protector. A woman thats ugly has it worse imho
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:29 PM
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People dont realize, we act depending on how many options we have. This includes level of self respect as well as boundaries and investment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:56 AM
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Honestly your reply is awful. Just a lot of emotional reactions thats subjective about stuff OP not even said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:54 AM
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Totally
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:52 AM
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Kinda sick tbh
/r/MensRights25/03/25 11:27 PM
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Feminists are insecure
/r/MensRights25/03/25 09:57 AM
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I dont get your final statement tho. Is it really that men created it. Seems just biological no? Men and women do it, competition - winners - procreation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:56 PM
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Its all evolutionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:53 PM
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Totally. Theres a famous saying: everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power. When women see a bi dude, or a dude that was penetrated, they see him as powerless and dont want him penetrating her. Same as when a man is at a bottom of hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:37 PM
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Well kinda, but thats not all of it. Im sure theres some evolutionary stuff to it as well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:37 PM
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Dude. Nature is cruel and harsh. Thats all im gonna say. You can tell me and the rest of the women that. And some will even say “we need to change that”. And theyll still get aroused and turned off by what they get aroused and turned off by. Time to burst your bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:24 PM
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Not really. Its part of natural disgust emotion that is in humans - towards weakness. Kinda how men feel disgusted after washed up promiscuous women. The basis wasnt the homosexuality, its low worth - weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:59 PM
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Its not about homophobia. Women love hanging out with gay dudes. Theyre just repulsed by an idea of a man being weak or dominated by other men (because it also makes her look bad for choosing him)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:30 PM
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Totally this. Ive put up with a ton of shit from my mean ex gf because she was smoking hot. Life is a mix of love and lust, and we cant resist good genes, until we get fed up with the negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:10 PM
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Hate to brake it to you, but they tell that to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:22 PM
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It is what it is. Nature is cruel but theres fairness in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:55 PM
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Youre looking at things very black or white and rigidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:12 PM
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No. A quality marriage is guy is reliable, holds space for his woman, dues all home duties, provides safety and security. And loves and prioritizes his woman, and the woman is satisfied. Idk what to tell you, theres lots of marriages where those conditions are not met, but the guy is faithful. I also understand your reaction as the idea of being cheated on probably repulses you. But i just wanted to illustrate how its not as simple as you pointed out. Quality is very relative
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:52 PM
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Who said that? You said if a guy cheats its indicative of quality of the marriage, thats not logically sound. A man can be everything for a woman and still bang something on the side. A man can be super devoted to a woman and still be a bad husband because hes not doing his duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:41 PM
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Well if you want to be better than content creators, you need to define what is quality marriage in the first place. A guy who cheated could be a great husband otherwise for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:00 PM
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Great point. I think when we see a shy girl we go “has value, lets protect her, shes sweet”. When we see a shy man its “no value, a boy, likely not competence”. Its all utility which evokes good feelings or disgust. Subconsciously ofc. Shyness in women has utility in society, because its tied to empathy, chastity, purity etc. Shyness in men doesnt have utility in society, because its signals less ability to lead, and pull resources. It doesnt mean there arent outliers. But those are the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:57 AM
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Its not even about the approach. Its the roles. Men like it when they lead and protect naive women. Women dont like to protect and lead naive men. Quite the opposite. The equality thing needs to stop, its hurting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:53 AM
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I dont think thats true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:17 AM
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This isnt true. Trashy hot women and unattractive simps often match up. Thing is it doesnt last. Men will absolutely chase shitty behaviour women for shiny vagina, its just they wont commit to it for long term (past 2,3 years), or cant commit to it even if they wanted to (they cant hold boundaries so relationship becomes stressful and unfulfilling)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:55 PM
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Lust gives dopamine, love is steady snd boring
/r/seduction15/03/25 06:06 PM
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Its not weak, its nature. Its animal kingdom, with the added layer in humanity that we compete in our minds by competence. And why do you use negative language, women are part of it. Women will choose the most competent man for her offsprings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:31 PM
2

So read that again: Ego goes in different directions. Nature is the same. A is different B is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:06 PM
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I never said nature goes in different directions. Nature is the same, the power fantasy. Ego goes different places depending on integration and childhood wounds
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:57 PM
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I submitted to my ex, idk what to tell you. Doesnt change anything about our nature. The power fantasy is clear, on both sides if you are honest with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:53 PM
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I dont know how you got to that conclusion. The ego is a defense mechanism to function in society. Ego lies to you all the time. Thats why people do shit behind the scenes. Ego isnt your nature
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:50 PM
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My point was ego goes in different directions. Nature is the same. Ego accepts a certain amount of nature in
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:43 PM
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Woman not lead in a relationship = dead bedroom, divorce and split up. Resentment in a million forms. If your worldview is that its ok to continually change partners, thats ok. Do that. I think its important to outly which part of the woman doesnt want to be lead. Typically its the mind ego who says it to communicate “im an adult, i can take care of myself and i can prove im competent”. Again are we talking work or relationships? Inner world of every woman is the same, if she is in touch with he…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:27 PM
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Its nature and biology. Women want and create patriarchy through what their vaginas get aroused by. Men compete to get vagina. This is all subconscious ofc. Genes. And youre totally right, men accept this and joke about it because they understand it. Women create this but they hypocritically say they dont want it (their ego maybe doesnt), and emotionally they wish it wasnt true (bluepill), and theres a virtue signaling part where they act “above it”. They arent lying though. They wish what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:20 PM
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Very simple. Womans nature is to want to submit (to her man). Because she wants to receive. But the ego develops in many different ways. Rightfully so - a lot of women didnt like the game of depending fully on men (especially in the workforce). Human nature is very unflattering when you make it transparent. Men have historically (and still do) treated women like children, or worse - objects. By choosing whats “best for them” ignoring the womans minds and free will. In a way - leading them fully.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:19 PM
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Youre correcting things i didnt say. I never said women are being lead. Im also not talking about men, men have their own problems. Im saying its in womans nature to be lead and to submit. To not be in her rational mind, so se can relax into her feelings or desire. Different women are connected to their nature to a different level. They crave power, but power that is good to them. Some surrender to it, some embody it to an extent, some reject it completely to become boss babes. It tends to happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:52 PM
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But look at what youre doing, youre immediately going “most men”. I said above most men cant lead average women, so theres nothing there to discuss. Women have not been respected historically, which is why theres an overcorrection in terms of career women etc. Its absolutely about accepting words. The ego cant accept that by nature the woman wants to submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:33 PM
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Again, all the stuff you say is basically mental gymnastics, because the womans ego, especially in 2025 and feminism, cant accept the words - leading and submission. Men have zero issues with that, men lead men all the time. But a womans self esteem is frail enough, from years of subjugation as well the vulnerable position she is in due to her nature, that she cant accept those words, so they stick out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:08 PM
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Its absolutely leading. Women want to be lead, theres just not enough leaders around
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:00 PM
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Woman want a more powerful person than themselves, that then chooses to treat them good. Women aboslutely relish when the man takes care of everything, plans dates, makes her surrender to her feelings, lets her experience her feelings while he is doing the leading and decision making. Women basically want to feel like girls, and a man that enables her to feel like that. But the womans ego is frail enough to not want to admit that its being “lead”, so they rationalize it with whatever words they …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:42 AM
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Buying women means he isnt powerful. Stop virtue signaling please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:31 AM
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Why is that strange? Women want a powerful man that leads them, which is a way of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:28 AM
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Hyper individualism bread by insecurity (jane over there is so strong and doesnt give af, how can i be as cool and not give a fuck even more).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 09:33 PM
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Truth
/r/MensRights11/03/25 03:34 PM
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Either theyve been victimized by other men (or their fathers). Or they desire a life that is not just about competing with other minds/men over being a better provider/leader - meaning, theyre higher in intuition than thinking, which makes them want to grow their authentic side, which resonates with womens approach to life.
/r/MensRights11/03/25 02:34 PM
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Average men are loyal out of necessity and self interest, not womans benefit or character value. They wouldnt be if they had options. And also they wouldnt if they had desire to engage emotionally (they want peace and stability). Its that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:31 AM
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Men and women are full of shit honestly. Equally toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:05 PM
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I think sex workers levels the playing field in a funny way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:03 PM
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