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No because I’m much more concerned with violence against women than with some vague suggestion that men should have a curfew which no one will take seriously. You can come back if someone actually tries to pass a law that men should have a curfew. You are comparing a very real and serious and widespread problem to a problem that doesn’t even exist.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 10:34 PM
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No she’s a real feminist. And her article is about violence against women. The suggestion of a curfew for men is a proposed solution to this problem that would never be adopted anyway.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 08:35 PM
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Please point to me one example where a feminist is openly saying that men should have less rights than women. We don’t even talk about men’s rights we are concerned with our own.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 02:56 PM
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Yes the law protects me too. Doesn't stop some men from trying. Also doesn't help with the trauma you go through if you get assaulted. It sounds like you think criminals don't exist because we have laws.
/r/AntiFeminists05/04/22 05:39 PM
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None of that is true dude. Women are not stopping you from socializing with men.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 03:58 PM
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You can still do it.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 02:47 PM
1

That’s something your community needs to fix. I don’t think a woman is a lesbian if she compliments me.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 02:47 PM
-3

No. I'm sorry you think that's what I mean by sexual harassment.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 05:54 AM
-4

You think that stops me from getting sexually harassed? You're funny.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 05:02 AM
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What I meant was if a woman is stronger than a man, she can rape him. That's all I meant to say. The girl in your post said she wished for a penis so she can rape a man. My response was that having a penis isn't enough, she needs to have the physical strength of a man. And yes it doesn't cover all cases of rape.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 04:15 AM
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I hope you get pats on the head from the men for defending them so loyally.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 02:57 AM
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Why would I reply? You’re a troll.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 02:53 AM
-1

You are really delusional sis. Get real. And I never said male rape victims don’t exist. You are misreading my comment.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 02:39 AM
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You don’t need to actually use force to intimidate and coerce someone. The fact that you’re bigger gives you an advantage. Don’t tell me you don’t watch yourself around a guy who can knock you on your ass.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 02:39 AM
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Most men are stronger than most women. And go ahead and try to stick your finger up a random guy’s ass. See how well that goes for you. You’d probably end up getting gang raped.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 02:29 AM
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That’s not what my comment meant.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 01:51 AM
-3

You actually think you can rape a man using brute strength? You’re delusional. No wonder you agree with the guys on here.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 01:50 AM
-4

So stop chasing our approval. We don’t want your attention.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 01:30 AM
-7

Go right ahead.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 01:24 AM
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Are men not capable of complimenting each other and supporting each other? Why is it always about what women are doing.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 01:19 AM
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You can’t rape men just because you have a penis. You need to be stronger than they are to do anything to them. Edit: A lot of people are reading this wrong. What I meant was if a woman is stronger than a man, she can rape him. I never meant to say that it isn't possible for a woman to rape a man. And yes I know rape can happen without using physical force, like statutory rape or drugging someone and making them unconscious.
/r/AntiFeminists04/04/22 12:55 AM
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The guy in her post was clearly looking for a hook up and wanted to come over right away. It’s normal for women to not be comfortable with that. I don’t know why this is triggering for you guys.
/r/AntiFeminists08/03/22 07:01 PM
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Women don’t want men like you. We don’t care what you like.
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/22 07:57 PM
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Ok. So they are being drafted by a government run by men, to fight a war that was started by another man. Sounds like your problem is with men, not women. Women don't invade other countries. Don't expect women to save men from their own hubris. You all want to be violent and kill each other go ahead. Leave us out of it.
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/22 07:16 PM
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Men can desert too. No one has to fight. I never said “men deserve to die” you’re projecting.
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/22 04:45 PM
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Dude. They need and want someone to leave with the children so they don’t get killed. Their fathers don’t want them getting killed in Ukraine. You’re looking at this from the wrong way
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/22 04:38 PM
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Does it occur to you that someone’s career choice also tells you about who they are? It’s like you think women are only good for cooking and cleaning and child rearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:07 AM
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Connect with other men. Women don’t want to be sexually involved with most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:02 AM
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I agree that women are less interested. And it is because men are narcissistic and dangerous to women. They are living by old rules in a new society where women don’t need to put up with them anymore, and they can’t adapt. That’s why they will die single and childless. Women who want children will bear the brunt of domestic labor and also hold down a job to provide. But if they got married they would have to do the same so it’s better that they stay single and not have to deal with a man pesteri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:48 PM
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We don’t owe you a conversation. Don’t tag me.
/r/AntiFeminists26/02/22 11:52 PM
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It's not about your sexual freedom. If people don't want to have sex with you they don't have to. You are infringing on other people's sexual freedom.
/r/MensRights19/10/21 07:54 PM
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Yes it's tiring. Some guys think women should pay for themselves. Other guys think the woman doesn't like him if she pays for herself. I personally don't want to date a guy if he will not pay for me. I will just stay single.
/r/seduction12/06/21 04:47 AM
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Never pay for all of it. Bring cash with you and throw down your half and then just walk out. He has no right to make you pay for everything. Be prepared to pay for yourself though if he wants to split.
/r/seduction12/06/21 12:00 AM
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I think that guy is too poor to be taking you out to a fancy place.
/r/seduction11/06/21 08:55 PM
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If you say you left your wallet at home you’re not getting anywhere. That’s complete bullshit.
/r/seduction11/06/21 08:51 PM
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That’s stupid. You were inviting her to drink. If she wanted to order a drink for herself she would have ordered.
/r/seduction11/06/21 08:36 PM
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I’m not into making fun of people. But I’ve had too many experiences where men follow me around or disrespect my boundaries and at this point I have no chill left. If you don’t care about women being rude or ignoring you then shoot away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:52 PM
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I literally said don’t do it. I don’t know why you’re talking about how ugly guys are treated in response to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:40 PM
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No I was referring to you. You don’t have to follow any “social contracts” as long as you accept the consequences which is women will not prefer you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:06 PM
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It's entitled because he expects women will want to date or have sex with him. As long as men accept that women are not going to want most of them if they don't provide financially then it's fine. They can choose to not care about what women want and women can choose to ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:58 AM
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That’s fair. I don’t think OP has the right idea though. He sounds too entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:50 AM
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Just ignore it. There’s a lot of dumb stuff on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:49 AM
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I agree that women are not entitled to rich, tall men. But they can choose to not get married instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:38 AM
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Don’t approach and don’t harass women. I’m not sure what you mean by hide your shameful sexuality. You don’t have to provide for a woman and a woman also doesn’t have to choose you to have sex with. Everyone has free choice here. You cannot expect women to choose a less desirable option when they have more desirable options available. There is always a better looking man or a richer man who will pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:50 PM
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Women don’t have to justify themselves to you for not doing what you want them to do. What a ridiculous opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:00 PM
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It’s not about you “getting laid”. You need a consenting partner to do that. No one in these pick up communities care about how women feel and see women as human.
/r/seduction25/02/21 02:06 AM
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You’re not meeting anyone worth meeting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:44 AM
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It’s mostly a class thing. Men who grow up in UMC homes, go to elite universities, are surrounded by women in a similar class so they look for them when looking for a gf. I’m not sure the salary itself matters that much. Women are more strict in wanting men to be able to provide. What I’ve experienced though is men might like the idea of a well educated, accomplished women but they feel insecure around a woman who is actually smart and can do things they can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:07 PM
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Because we are tired of getting preyed on and harassed by guys. Studying “how to pick up women” itself gives off a bad vibe.
/r/seduction27/01/21 03:15 AM
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If you don’t want someone to be mad at you, don’t do something that will make them be mad at you.
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 03:29 AM
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Women need money, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:55 PM
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New laws aren’t necessary IMO. Chads don’t have to marry anyone and women can get child support already.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:48 PM
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They’re mad because these women still have options and will still reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 06:18 PM
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Well. I’m guessing his gf would leave him eventually.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 02:42 AM
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He’s uneasy because he might want to find someone better, and he knows it’s not going to last forever.
/r/MGTOW204/11/20 08:33 PM
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A relationship is easier to get than an ONS for an unattractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 06:20 PM
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There isn't a reason unless she is too afraid to be alone or too insecure and worries about other people judging her for being alone. Male nature is entitled as fuck and they expect women to serve their needs when they have nothing of comparable value to offer women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:26 PM
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I’m not ignoring anything. I’m saying you shouldn’t think it’s something you can just get because it ain’t up to you. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:46 PM
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You’re missing the point here. Whether a woman has a baby out of wedlock is entirely up to her. She can just have an abortion instead of having the baby. So it’s wrong for you to think that this is something you can control because you can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:44 PM
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Just because something happens doesn’t mean it’s easily available. And doesn’t mean it’s going to happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:39 PM
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Yes but I don’t think those were situations where they planned it out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:36 PM
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I don’t think it’s that easy to find a woman who will have a child with you out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:20 PM
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Younger women do not beat older women in terms of financial success. That makes no sense. It takes time to get established in a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:12 PM
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Sperm is cheap and easy to get. Just because a man still produces sperm in his 50s doesn’t mean anyone wants them when there are better looking 20 year old sperm available. Men are valued more in some cultures because they are sexist and the men want it that way. Men are also hateful and violent because of their inherent inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 04:36 PM
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She said the guys were the ones who weren't ready. Not her. Don't know why you're blaming her here.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/20 10:28 PM
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She isn't that bad looking. If she isn't overweight she would do fine on the dating market.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/20 08:35 PM
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The point I’m making is you’re conflating someone leaving after a hook up is done, which is normal, to someone acting like a sociopath, which isn’t normal. And yes the OP was distressed but that’s because she doesn’t know what she’s doing with guys. Not every woman is distressed by casual sex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/20 05:56 PM
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The OP said he stayed and finished the movie. People don't literally just get up and leave right after sex. That's like...sociopathic or something.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/20 09:29 AM
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What do you mean you leave immediately after? Don't you cuddle for a bit? What you said sounds weird.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/20 01:52 AM
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Yeah I agree. Which doesn’t benefit anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 03:50 AM
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And how exactly do you “know” when a guy is committed to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 02:03 AM
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Doesn’t excuse dishonest behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 02:01 AM
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He can easily lie to you to get what he wants. Don’t think you’re better than other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 10:34 PM
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I’ve learned to not care about guys too much and not expect too much from anyone. There’s really no other way unless I give up on guys altogether. But they will take advantage of a girl if they know she likes him, even if he doesn’t want a relationship with her. It’s the same thing with women getting a guy to buy her dinner when she doesn’t like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:29 PM
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I've had guys who pretend like they are interested in me, and also say that they are looking for a relationship, and then back out after we have sex. They were not actually interested in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:11 PM
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You would consider a lady not being up front with a guy 'not lying' She has to go on the date with you first before she knows if she will like you. Also I don't think you should spend a lot of money on a first date. Maybe even suggest a free activity if you're worried about it. Most guys in my experience that pull this kind of behavior don't outright lie to women, they are just not upfront as you say. I've had guys lie to me. Or give evasive answers when I ask them what they're looking for. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:58 PM
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I never said everyone gets it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:31 PM
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Nah everyone needs that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:13 PM
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I don't think splitting costs for a date is considered "protection". Because a woman isn't lying to you to get you to go on a date with her. You want to go on the date and impress her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:12 PM
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Like possibly consider some things like splitting costs on dates, getting rid of alimony, If you can find a woman who is ok with splitting costs on dates and also makes equal or more money than you do then that's great. That's not gonna be the case for every guy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:06 PM
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You just don't have empathy for people I guess. For the record I don't think men should be lied to either. It's wrong when either gender does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:02 PM
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You can’t vet people 100% of the time if their intent is to deceive. Blaming the victim like you’re doing doesn’t help. I get that you’re a bitter jaded person and I feel that way too sometimes but that doesn’t mean we should give back crap into the world. I’d rather just sit it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:48 PM
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The problem is when you contribute to the decline you just make things worse for everyone else which eventually cycles back to you. Women learn what’s going on and stop giving you the benefit of the doubt and pretty soon you’ll get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:04 PM
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There’s no love. These guys are sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 05:59 PM
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It’s not because we don’t want accountability. It’s not our fault that men are dishonest and use us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 05:54 PM
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What’s wrong with having empathy and wanting people to behave honestly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 05:31 PM
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The post isn’t talking about covert contracts. It’s talking about deceit and manipulation. Some guys will outright lie and say they are looking for a relationship and then back out after they have sex. And it’s not always that women are trying to date guys out of their league. The guys are just assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 05:28 PM
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It’s the female perspective, not ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 06:53 PM
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When you want a relationship you want the relationship, sex is only a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 04:21 PM
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You’re not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:51 PM
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Society doesn’t cater more to our needs. Actually we’re still living in the tail end of the patriarchal society era where society catered to men and co-opted women to live in service of men. What you’re seeing now is the beginning of women have no restrictions and not needing to cater to men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:31 PM
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Men are all already doing this. Or they are successful enough to find someone they want early on for marriage. You really think men waiting to get married hurts women? Women will just wait too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:25 PM
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You don’t understand that most men do not have any value in the casual sex market. Women do not want them by appearance alone. So coming from the assumption that your sex is worth something is meaningless. Most men are not Chad. Such is life. Stop being angry about it you’re not going to change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:17 PM
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Would you change your surname to your wife’s? If not, does that show that you’re not committed to the relationship? Can you see the double standard you have here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:02 PM
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A highly attractive white man would probably qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:43 PM
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If I were a Chad I would pick someone to marry. If not a Chad then perhaps not. Though I might still try and find a nice ugly woman to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:43 AM
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Why do you think women deserve to be lied to? I don’t understand. Isn’t it just your entitlement to think you can exploit other people to get what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:20 AM
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That's better than lying imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:08 AM
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Women can manage just fine, and would be safer and happier without dealing with men’s toxic bullshit. Men’s fragile egos just can’t accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:37 AM
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That's just stupid. No one is attracted to assholes (unless they have low self-esteem). They're attracted to attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:17 PM
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I didn't say anything about hookups. I was talking about porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 10:07 PM
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Your attitude doesn't help and just makes it worse. Women don't start out hating men, they become that way after meeting too many assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:48 PM
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Well, your competition (other women) are giving pictures so if you don't, then the guy moves to another woman. Nah he doesn't if he's into you. Pictures are just pictures. If he's serious about meeting it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:47 PM
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I mean, I find it annoying that guys will often ask for pictures now when talking to a girl. Like that shouldn’t be normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:48 PM
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Definitely not pornography. Women don’t benefit from pornography. It’s men who demand it and consume it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:37 PM
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So you don’t a shit about women, cool. Women shouldn’t give a shit about you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:31 PM
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There’s not much you can do about it, unless you’re into raping.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:28 PM
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I’m not out to deceive other people and I don’t think it’s right to be deceptive. You’re just screwing up the dating pool and pretty soon no one will trust people any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:58 AM
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Well, idk about that. I see men talk about not wanting to lose their money in a divorce so men who have more to lose might be less inclined to get married. And men will marry down rather than marry someone on their level so a lot of career women are going to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:53 AM
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So much of the manosphere is about being anti-feminist and how women have lost their femininity because they work now and don't need men anymore. If men had more money dating would be easier for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:48 AM
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Why do you think you're entitled to being treated like a genetically elite male when you are not one? That's not how it works. No one is gaslighting or manipulating you. It's your own ego who can't accept that you lost the genetic lottery. And no, that doesn't justify you lying or manipulating women to get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:21 AM
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Doesn't work unless you have the looks to go with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:16 AM
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A whole heap of men in their late 20s to early 40s have no money. And this is the real reason why so many men are angry and bitter and hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:07 AM
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Married men maybe. Married women not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:05 AM
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Women do not want men to have power.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:54 AM
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Right and it's usually not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:04 PM
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I know right? And why is less babies a bad thing? It's not!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:57 PM
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Men don’t have to commit in order to get sex anymore For Chads only. You're foolish to think all men benefit from casual sex culture. In fact the rise of casual sex is why the incel population is rising: women all become part of Chad's harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:55 PM
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Yes, because women don't need to marry men to have economic support anymore. Therefore there's no incentive to marry men near the bottom of the totem pole. And relaxed norms about sex, casual relationships, and divorces mean couples are less likely to stay together. Plus people are becoming too selfish to be willing to make the sacrifices needed to maintain a lifelong monogamous partnership. I predict in the next 10-20 years we will see a big shift in terms of decline in traditional monogamous m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:54 PM
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That is too much. She has to at least offer at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:30 PM
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Men rarely act in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:10 PM
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A lot of guys do ask women out and plan for dates and also pay for them. That isn’t rare behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:04 PM
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You cannot know how animals feel because you can't talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:00 PM
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And even so, the consequences you're talking about are legal ones, not natural ones. I don't agree. People's reaction to rape is also natural. No one in their right mind, women or men, think it's ok to force someone to have sex. Those natural reactions lead us to develop laws that make rape a crime. I don't really care about the rest. I jumped in because I see men trying to normalize rape by saying it's natural. It's a slippery slope if I don't try to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:59 PM
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Your argument doesn't work because in nature women couldn't get abortions and there was also no way to determine who the father of a baby is, unless the woman only slept with one man. What's happening is our technology has advanced way beyond that to improve the lives of women and children and we can hold men responsible for the children they do father. The only people who don't like this are men who don't want to support their own kids, and no one likes men who are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:46 PM
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Men are not being denied any rights because no one has the right to paper abortion. Men and women can and have been sued for child support by custodial parents. Great point. Both parents have an obligation to support their kid. And the kid is usually with the mom in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:38 PM
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I don't agree that animals rape each other. You cannot know how animals feel because you can't talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:35 PM
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I understand your point. I don't think you understand why I am arguing on this thread. I don't like to see men talk about rape like it's something that's justified because "nature".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 05:59 PM
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That’s because they are desperate to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:06 AM
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Why is it so hard for you to understand that women’s reaction to rape is also natural? So men’s feelings are natural and women’s aren’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:03 AM
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Producing content via only fans isn’t really prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:08 AM
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I don’t agree that it comes from conditioning. Humans naturally possess a conscience and the capacity to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:03 AM
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Women are the ones who want divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:56 AM
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You do realize that animals all rape each other 24/7 This is a gross exaggeration of what's going on. Different animals go in heat and only mate during that time, or they have some kind of ritual before mating. Since you cannot know how animals feel about their mating patterns your point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:13 AM
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Rape is not INHERENTLY a bad thing Only a rapist could say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:12 AM
4

In stable societies they are punished. Obviously when all hell breaks loose in war times things are different. That's true today as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:10 AM
1

You're an aspie aren't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:09 AM
1

Who on earth would marry into that culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:06 AM
-2

Ok. But if men are trying to justify rape with biology then they also have to accept the consequences. That’s what I was arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:53 AM
3

How is it still purge week?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:27 AM
0

It’s not really going to affect which men women choose. Abortions are still an option as long as they are affordable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:24 AM
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Financial abortion is not a reproductive right. You all need better birth control maybe. And better self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:21 AM
2

Women are hurt by rape and get angry. People who care about the women also get angry. Rape causes unwanted children to be born. These consequences are all natural and you don’t need a sophisticated legal system to have them. It’s like saying getting angry and hitting someone is natural, but that person getting angry at you and hitting you back is not. Doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:13 AM
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Ok but rape comes with consequences. If people get angry at the rapist and kill him or banish him then we can say “it’s just biology, accept it.” Not sure where that gets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:05 AM
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A stable human tribe doesn’t condone rape to go unpunished. And we have always lived in tribes. What you’re describing is an incel fantasy. Edit: I’ll correct myself. Not necessarily an incel fantasy but a rapist’s fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:03 AM
-5

How is it not an argument? It means submit to the way nature designed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:00 AM
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It’s not though. Rape is a violent crime and perpetrators have always been punished. Doesn’t change how reproductive biology works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:44 PM
11

Why do men make everything about them? Abortion is not about men. There is no equivalent for men because men don't get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:51 PM
33

Can people stop talking about rape like we should let it happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:49 PM
5

Oh we understand. We don't have to play along with men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:47 PM
5

So...you will never want to tape yourself having sex with a future gf or wife, ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:06 PM
9

Women want things that benefit them. It's not that hard to understand. Don't engage with women if you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:55 PM
1

That’s why your pussies dry up if we ever talk feelings to you. I personally don't feel that way. I try to see men as human just like I am. so what FemCels angry about? They're the "losers" of women because they are last pick for men who want relationships. Male losers are the incels. Losers are always going to be angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:52 PM
1

Blue pill is just being naive. It's mostly used for men who believe that their looks don't matter to women and they can win over any woman based on personality, if they just try hard enough. A lot of what you said is just common sense, it isn't "blue pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:40 PM
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Women don't care about how men feel about what they do in their twenties. They still do what they want. The guys who are left out of the hook up scene are the ones who are angry about how things are, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:36 PM
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Lol right? Men talk about wanting to have sex with women they don't like or respect. Does it shock them that women will also fuck hot guys that they don't like or respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:19 PM
4

Except it's not because the point he was making is looks matter. He wasn't talking about how personality matters too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:09 PM
1

Wow wow you are such a troll 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:34 AM
1

Right. Because the man is ok with having sex without getting in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:02 AM
1

I smell bs. Women can just ask to fuck. They don’t have to lead men on or play with their feelings to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:59 AM
0

I guess you were rejected by some women? It happens. Some situations are just casual and are never meant to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:54 AM
2

Neither do men!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:44 AM
2

The answer is in your post. They hate women because women don’t care to cater to their every whim and quiet their insecurities about being less attractive than Chad. They have zero self awareness of how awful they are as human beings. No women do not love you as you are. Keep hating incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:40 AM
2

*eye roll
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:16 AM
1

Female, I guess I’m black pilled A man is low RMV if he fails at being a provider and is an asshole. That’s it in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:54 PM
2

Because they’re narcissistic and delusional and have zero self-awareness. Basically a total mess. And they don’t see how bad they are coming across to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:43 PM
3

Oh yeah this explains a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:09 PM
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Even when it has nothing to do with the original discussion How things were historically explains why the prejudices exist in the first place. The one child policy was enacted in a sexist environment and had sexist results. That's why it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:58 PM
1

In the workforce sure but mostly in low paying jobs. Anyway my point was more about how things were for hundreds (thousands?) of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:39 PM
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I wouldn't say for multiple generations. Maybe within the last 30 years or so they could. Before that most women just got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:21 PM
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Daughters did not do as they pleased. They had to get married and serve their husband’s family.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:16 PM
5

It’s misogyny and centuries old discrimination against women. No need to make it sound like anything else. If they actually invested in women instead of just raising them to be married off then men wouldn’t be preferred in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 08:15 PM
2

Not even close loser
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:38 PM
2

You know this is encouraging them right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:47 AM
1

Lol what? Women can make money without selling their body too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:46 AM
5

Yeah except that’s 99% of it sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:55 PM
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Female blood is life giving. Male blood is just a waste of carbon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:11 PM
0

Haha women are dumb sluts so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:10 PM
1

Doesn’t really matter if you weren’t dating the first girl
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:17 PM
3

There is nothing he can do that will get him eye contact with Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:02 AM
2

Chad isn't hateful like the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:52 AM
2

That's not what we call hooking up with Chads
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:39 AM
2

She can get fucked by high quality guys any time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:22 AM
1

Which is why no one feels sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:22 PM
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He doesn’t have a point. He’s bitter that women reject him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:13 PM
10

Men think everything in life is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:12 PM
1

Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:04 PM
5

Are you joking? She's way more attractive than any woman you all could get. Without paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:44 PM
1

Indian men don’t shy from the challenge. Anything for their ivory queens!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:27 AM
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Still has thirsty men hitting up her dms
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:25 AM
3

She’s getting too many free dinners. Sometimes 3 in 1 night.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:23 AM
1

Had enough of purge week yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:18 AM
3

I genuinely don’t think white women are the most attractive race. But high status I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:16 AM
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Alphas sleep with women. They don’t “lead” women to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:25 AM
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I'm a female. A quick glance through my profile will tell you that. Whatever. Keep fantasizing about how much Asian men love white women. I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:37 PM
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Lmao are you an Asian man? I'm guessing no. I'll wait for an Asian man to jump in and say white women are their "white gods."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:28 PM
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Women are human just like you are. We have our own thoughts and goals and feelings. We're not passively waiting to be the missing piece that completes your life. It's unhealthy to "not associate" with half the population because you're too scared to and then expect them to be receptive to letting you stick your dick in them. Doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:27 PM
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Take it from me. Attractive Asian women have no problem attracting Asian men. Asian men take what they can get, like most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:17 PM
-1

Yeah that happened because she was the only white woman around, so she got bumped for being exotic. Most traditional Chinese men won't even consider marrying a western women. Not saying that to be catty it's just true. Western women have bad stereotypes attached to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:16 PM
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Not really. Asian men are like other men meaning they don't care about race as much. Most of them like Asian and Latina women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:07 PM
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You gotta settle with your looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:56 PM
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Nah Asian women would prefer white men over any man of her race.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:46 PM
3

Yikes!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:39 PM
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White women do not treat men better than black women. White women have way more power and wealth and are more entitled. Black women tend to bend over backwards for men because they’re the least desired race of women. Sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:23 PM
-1

This might be true for black men. But it doesn’t seem to be true for Asians and Latinos.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:13 PM
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This guy just wants to shit on women. Don't waste your time replying to him. He's a LVM himself who is angry that he can't get attractive women to give him the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:48 AM
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Yeah but the subtext is why won't these women just roll over and serve me because that's all they're good for. I see lots of incels complaining about women who think they're too good for the men who would actually consider dating them. It's kind of the same. If a guy is already able to get the attention of attractive girls he wouldn't be posting mean stuff about unattractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:15 AM
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That's because you don't like black girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:04 PM
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That’s her choice to make when she has the child. Honestly money goes a long way in compensating for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:24 PM
2

I doubt they’re easier to get in bed by non Chads. They’re used to banging Chads why settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:13 AM
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Are you trying to convince men to get married? Or trying to argue that women are stupid to not get married? I can’t tell which.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:54 AM
1

She can get child support from you down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:50 AM
1

So you’re short and ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:45 AM
2

Women will know it’s just a scam to get sex and then dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:40 AM
2

What makes you think women will travel to another country just to get used by asshole men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:32 AM
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It’s not predatory if you’re not being predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:23 AM
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Sluts aren’t choosing you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:17 AM
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Lol at the comments on this thread: Women: don’t expect to have sex Men: don’t expect to be safe or treated with basic respect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:30 PM
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Women don’t care. As long as they’re not being led on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:25 PM
1

It’s realistic for Chad to want to date Stacy. I don’t know about living happily ever after though. Having a successful LTR depends on the couple’s personality and values. A lot of people are just too selfish and shallow to stick it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:16 AM
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I don't think "game" ever worked as well as people hyped it up to. Sure maybe it helped an ok looking guy get a one night stand once or twice, but he's not going to become some stud who has hot chicks at his beck and call. Because that doesn't really exist (unless you are paying and then it's basically just prostitution). Casual sex and hook up culture is so normalized now that women quickly realize their power in the SMP and gravitate towards Chads only. It doesn't matter what average guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:48 PM
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Stop trolling for fucks sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:50 PM
1

He said nothing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:47 PM
1

It’s the thickness that matters more than the length. Also no loose pussy here based on feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 11:57 PM
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Guys who say that are misogynistic assholes and women should avoid them anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:50 PM
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You would not be able to do anything if a bigger man attacks you either. Unless you are highly trained. You are delusional to think you would fare any better if you were subjected to the same level of aggression that women face. Most harassment I’ve experienced from men is sexually motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:38 PM
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Dick size matters. If a guy’s dick is too small he can’t give me a vaginal orgasm. Don’t blame women for something that is out of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:24 PM
1

Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:47 PM
1

Pretty sure we live in the same world. You’re just a bad hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:38 PM
1

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:37 PM
6

Saying 30 year old women are risky to have kids with is scientifically inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:37 AM
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Hook up guys will give oral (most of them do), or finger you to get you off first before piv. It’s easier to orgasm from piv if you’re already aroused or already had an orgasm. If a woman isn’t satisfied by casual sex then she absolutely should not be having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:30 AM
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I think part of it is also because these guys aren't good in bed and aren't trying to please their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:10 PM
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Women don't need to pay for sex, even with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:09 PM
1

To protect yourself from this you can Not marry a woman who makes no money or significantly less money than you, or Get a pre-nup, hire a lawyer to make sure it's done properly, or Marry a woman who makes similar to you or more than you. You won't bleed if a divorce happens. There are ways to get around the family court system.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:50 PM
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If the spouses separated physically when they filed for divorce then yes, it makes sense for alimony to start at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:08 PM
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Men are an ATM for family court because they were the ATM for the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:07 PM
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This doesn’t change my opinion. Alimony can be modified based on the spouses’s changing income. Having responsibility under the law does not equal that responsibility being unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:04 PM
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Bunch of sociopathic rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:31 PM
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No. Manipulation is actively trying to trick someone or play with their emotions in order to get what you want. If someone is chasing you out of their own accord that’s not manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:29 PM
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I am familiar with divorce proceedings, that’s why I say this. Yes divorce is challenging and results in losses for the man a lot of the times, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t justified. If you supported a housewife for years while she took care of the home then yes you’re gonna have to support her for a while after divorce so she can get back on her feet. Same with children, if they’re yours and under 18 then you have an obligation to support them. I don’t see why that’s contentious. None of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:19 PM
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Idk about that. That doesn’t sound appealing to me. FWB arrangements don’t work long term for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:26 PM
0

That makes sense as long as you don’t want a close bond with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:01 PM
0

Marriage rabies doesn’t exist if women are already disillusioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:59 PM
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I don’t have a problem with NSA as long as both people know that’s what they’re getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:54 PM
1

Nah it’s the opposite. Only good looking and relatively young guys get laid easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:38 PM
1

Maybe they shouldn’t use Hinge then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:25 PM
1

Good luck finding women who want to hook up with you 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:16 PM
2

That’s a pipe dream hun. No one is serving your ass if she has to pay half the rent/mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:14 PM
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Men are treated fairly in divorce courts. It’s a myth online that men just automatically lose everything. Just get a lawyer he’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:10 PM
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Because people want to when they get to a point in their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:09 PM
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The only thing women get out of marriage is financial support for her and her kids. If men are bailing on that then they are not even worth a second glance from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:56 PM
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Eh. It’s true marriage was for men to know who their kids were and who to pass their wealth down onto. It just co-opted women into being reproductive labor and household labor for men. That said women also got the benefit of being supported by men but don’t think that men were getting the bad end of the bargain with marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:54 PM
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Women might start out as wanting to get married, but if they can’t find anyone they feel is worth it to them they will give up on the idea. If men also don’t want to get married or commit to women then they limit their already limited number of options to get anything from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:50 PM
1

No one is saying women can’t fall in love with less attractive men. Nor are women “alpha widowed”, not if she’s smart and knows what’s good for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:51 AM
1

You sound like you're coping a little bit. It's possible that a woman feels no attraction towards a man who is conventionally attractive. This isn't possible. Women will be attracted to him, but he might turn them off with his personality. Monogamy is also not only composed of women partnering up with unattractive dudes who can provide. Marriage is, unless she is lucky enough to find a Chad who also happens to be a good provider and also stays faithful to her. Idk if such a man exists I'm not ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 10:42 PM
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That’s what the entire system of marriage and monogamy is based on. Most women can get Chad to fuck them. Most men are not Chad and will not be as sexually attractive as Chad. I don’t know what else to tell you. Some guys are just not as good looking as others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:03 PM
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No. He should know that he’s making up for it by providing resources. If I didn’t care about the resources I wouldn’t be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:47 PM
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Women are more likely to put up with you if you offer them at least something of value. There are women out there who also aren’t very attractive and won’t be able to keep an attractive guy around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:44 PM
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It’s fine if you don’t want to take advice, or if you think it won’t help you. It is what it is and it will help some men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:42 PM
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I don't care about MGTOW, I don't care if men choose to go their own way. If they still want to try with women I was just offering a suggestion of what they can work on. Given the gender dynamics we have today, men need to develop their emotional and social intelligence to be more appealing to women. But they are also free to not try to appeal to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:33 AM
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There are women who are content with being single. Some are, some aren't, hopefully we can all get there instead of letting other people dictate our happiness. Men can pay for affection. You are not denied all affection. If you're too proud to do it that's your own problem. Women have always carried heavy responsibility for society and now carry even more because we are in the work force. Stop making it sound like women sit around and do nothing. Men can learn to be better at fulfilling women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:59 AM
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Actually I do prefer men with a high IQ. It’s just that I’m not going to lower my standards in other areas too far to compromise for a man with that trait. So it’s really just lack of physical attractiveness and social skills that is holding these guys back. Not because they’re “too smart”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:53 AM
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Incels need to be content with being alone, or at least learn to not lash out and hurt others. Women can be content being single if they can’t find the man of their dreams. I don’t see why men can’t. This holding women hostage and making their happiness dependent on women needs to stop. Also men in general need to be more empathetic and be better people. I know some men are already good at this but if a guy is an unattractive loser and on top of that has a big overblown ego then that’s gonna rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:42 AM
6

Don't base your self worth on what men think of you. They will always be nasty because they're nasty people. That's got nothing to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:23 AM
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I mean, if there are men being left single, that means there are women being left single too, because there are about equal numbers of men and women in the population. The people near the top will enjoy the sex and relationships that they want, and the people near the bottom don't want to pair up with each other so they stay single. If people would rather stay single than pair up then they're free to do that, I don't see why anyone should be forced to take a partner they don't like if they're fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:19 AM
1

Nah skinny women are still desired. I think thick women are more accepted now, as are women who train and are muscular. This isn’t a bad thing. Overweight/obese women are still not as desired but they have a platform to advocate for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:34 AM
2

This isn’t the right question. It’s more about what she’s looking for. If she’s looking for a relationship with you then she’s not going to jump in bed with you on the first date, and if you push to do it it’s because you only care about having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 10:50 PM
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Men are too narcissistic and preoccupied with their own drive to spread their seed and climb up the dominance hierarchy to give a fuck about other people. Women are just tools to them. They also don't respect women and don't relate to women as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:33 PM
1

It’s supposed to mean that men who rape have to suffer consequences for their actions. Also your example was about other species, not ours. You don’t actually know what early human behavior was like. And I’m sure there are counter examples of other species where males didn’t rape or coerce the females.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:04 PM
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Because the rich older men are ugly and want to buy affection and companionship. A 30 year old man making 30k can still be attractive and offers more than a 20 year old college boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:58 PM
1

Because they have careers of their own and can’t be impressed by the same level of man that they were once impressed by in their twenties. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:55 PM
1

I mean, I don’t even want sex 4 times a week. You’re assuming women want or care about something that isn’t that valuable to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:30 PM
1

🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:45 AM
5

It’s not about you. You don’t have to invest in any woman. And no woman has to have sex with you. If you’re insecure that you’re not as hot as some other guys out there then that’s fine. It’s your problem to live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:38 AM
1

Yup it makes sense. It’s just hard for people to accept that they’re not the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:22 AM
1

A lot of RP is revenge fantasy where unattractive men fantasize about using and rejecting women who wouldn’t give them the time of day anyway. They also don’t understand (or don’t care) that women can enjoy sex like men can, for it’s own sake and not worry about commitment. They externalize their own insecurities about women and dating and blame everything on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:35 PM
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I mean you pretty much proved my point. Women just have to be hot, i.e. desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:55 PM
0

People look for whatever benefits them. They lie to benefit themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:52 PM
0

Only if he's trying to play me. Not if he's being sincere. I can't magically see how he has interacted with other women in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:13 AM
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This depends on if you trust her or not. If you don't trust her to not cheat on you then your relationship wouldn't work anyways. Also technology has solved this - DNA testing. Doesn't matter how you feel you're gonna know if a baby is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:11 AM
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The more sexual partners a woman has, the more likely she is to cheat on you and divorce you, statistically. Same with men, no? Men who cheat on their wives will also get a divorce. I don't see how that's a good outcome. Women who are promiscuous also very often suffer from mental health issues, among other things, Probably an exaggeration. I don't really care if you don't like promiscuous women but the way you phrased your post is weird. People don't choose partners based on if they're able to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:09 AM
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Lol I know my own dating life better than you do. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:04 AM
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Not going to debate with someone who talks about pedophilia. Take a good hard look at what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:01 AM
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You'd be surprised how many guys I've broken up with, versus them breaking up with me. I can get commitment from men if I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:52 AM
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Most guys have a radar for this type of thing. You guys have no clue unless she tells you about it. She could easily lie and hide her past if she thinks that will benefit her. I personally don't do this because I don't give an f anymore but it's easy to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:42 AM
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You make it sound like promiscuous people never date, which isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:41 AM
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Ok but it's because the guy is insecure and is afraid she will compare him to her previous partners. It's not because the woman herself is "low value".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:39 AM
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This doesn't add up. Just because a woman has had lots of sexual partners doesn't mean she's undesirable. She could be very desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:45 AM
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I don't believe men want to settle down by nature. They were forced to because people couldn't have sex outside of marriage so everyone played by the rules. Now that's changed and they don't have to get married to have sex anymore. What they do want is to have all the benefits of a relationship - sex, companionship, and even loyalty and commitment from a woman, all without making the ultimate commitment of marriage. That is the pipe dream for men and the one thing you should never fall for lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:57 AM
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You're doing it wrong. Men who try to have sex immediately only want sex. It's up to you to pass on them and find a guy who is interested in getting to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:52 AM
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It's easier for women to have a bad experience, true. That doesn't mean all hook ups are bad experiences. It really depends on the woman's personality and whether the guy is a good lover or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:48 AM
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Hook ups, when done right, is done with both parties knowing what they're getting into. It's not about the guy tricking the girl into doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:37 AM
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Lift, hold frame, invest in you and BOOM. Hookup material. BOOM: your biological imperative fulfilled. This isn't true. Women do not dip below a certain level of physical attractiveness for hookups because they don't have to. Guys think it's great until they realize girls only want their hot friend, not them. A lot of factors will instantly disqualify a guy for consideration - race, height, face, fitness (though this can be changed).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:19 AM
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Haha a lot of them are selfish as hell and can't return texts on time or listen to me in a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:05 PM
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It's not my mentality. It's just how I would cope with a situation. In a hypothetical, if I was married and my husband somehow just wanted to watch a lot of porn I'd move to a separate bedroom and keep on keeping on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:32 PM
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How you interact with a real woman is very different from what you see in porn. I hope you understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:59 AM
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No I don't think so. Porn is like crack cocaine for them. What I find weird is they equate watching porn to chasing women. Porn has nothing to do with real women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:55 AM
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Eh I think you're splitting hairs a bit. Any guy who is sub 8 is gonna have a hard time finding casual sex (unless he has no standards). Any guy who is sub 6 is basically a toad. The difference between a 5 man and a 2 man is that walking around with a 2 man would get you funny looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:50 AM
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Not worth it if the guy is a toad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:03 AM
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It's because being exploited for sex and reproductive labor isn't really a problem for men. You don't have to experience any of the downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:43 AM
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Women were GIVEN their rights,they didn’t earn them. Men agreed to not be raping and killing savages and treat other people with respect. That's what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:20 AM
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You emotional opinion doesn’t line up with fact. Lol there was nothing "emotional" about what I said. I'm gonna stop the conversation now so the mods don't call me uncivil. Also your rebuttal doesn't address what I said. So what if men are working more hours? That doesn't change the fact that households need two incomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:15 AM
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and even with spending on children accounted for women still spend more money on themselves than the combined spending for men and children. You have no evidence for this. Women do most of the shopping, yes, but it's for the family. They're not spending their husband's paycheck on designer purses when there are kids to feed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:46 AM
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This whole woman as the main breadwinner in a marriage thing Women would choose not being married over being a breadwinner for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:44 AM
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Putting in the work for 30 years in a 50+ hour per week job is the hard part. Lol. This is what every American adult has to do if they want a comfortable lifestyle. Unless you came with a trust fund not working isn't an option. Most women aren't going to meet a Zuckerberg who truly makes working unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:34 AM
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Eh...don't think women aren't serious about their careers. A lot of us really are ambitious and want to make a difference. I'm tired of seeing men devalue our accomplishments by saying there are "quotas" for getting hired in certain jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:17 AM
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People are too much assholes for that to be true, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:05 PM
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Don’t overestimate how appealing sex work is. It’s something women do only when they are desperate for money. Selling your nudes or doing porn will ruin your chances of being successful at a professional career so women don’t do it lightly. Overall I would say betabuxx still works for a subset of women, the women who can’t earn enough on their own and need a man to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:15 AM
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Yes. It's common for men to try to talk to me in bars, or just randomly say hi if they see me walking on the street. It's usually older men who are bolder with showing interest (no idea why as I'm less likely to be interested) and Latino men who would try to talk to me on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:54 AM
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I don’t agree with it. Society doesn’t favor one gender over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:28 AM
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I never said women can't be actors. No one here is saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:07 PM
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I’m sorry but why do you think women who are normal weight have to be “average”? You don’t know what she looks like. Attractive slim women have a normal healthy BMI. The numbers don’t tell you one way or another what she looks like, just that she’s not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:59 PM
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Guys who are young could possibly pull this off. Problem is young guys don’t want to commit either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:55 PM
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Stop making men the victims. They are not victims. Men do plenty of shady and shitty things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:27 PM
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If you’re just looking for casual then no one cares about your dog or what you do. It’s all face height frame and having low body fat/working out. I find it weird that men try to sell themselves as people when they don’t want a relationship. It doesn’t work like that and you also don’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:38 AM
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He won't find anything close to an FWB unless he fits certain physical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:46 AM
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. No one has to date anyone they don't want to. Just because someone thinks you're not good enough for them doesn't mean they're narcissistic. You can disagree and get mad but at the end of the day it's still their choice if they want to date you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 11:25 PM
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No they only care about attractive girls. They don’t give a shit about unattractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:29 PM
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That’s not what men are told. There are standards for masculinity that are also taught to males as they grow up. The real problem is men are entitled and they externalize blame when they realize they’re not good enough to get the girls they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:22 PM
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Sure. A lot of men are laid back and don’t want to lead. A lot of women don’t want men telling them what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:37 AM
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You’re blaming them for everything and leaving the dad out of the picture. It takes two to create a single mom situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:34 AM
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Why do you hate single moms so much? Why not just mind your own business? You really just want to rail on women for having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:23 AM
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And the flip side, what makes him think any white women want to date him when he has no intention of marrying them? Lol he needs to get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:36 AM
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Yes your friend is right. It’s hypocritical for you to not want to marry someone in your situation - a Muslim girl who also dated in her youth. You’re just justifying it by being totally self-serving. What makes you think you’re any better or less messed up than the girls who date?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:32 AM
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Lol they'll probably just double down on their anger and hatred of women instead of actually trying to improve themselves. Their emotional maturity is way lower (on average).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:58 AM
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Lol what? You think women are miserable? Yeah ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:06 AM
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He argued that male leadership causes society to advance. Male leadership means oppressing women because women are not allowed to lead. Hence he is arguing that oppressing women is good for society and causes society to advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:04 AM
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This is so silly. So you're saying women can't lead society because they can't do something that men have the capacity to do. But no one is saying that men can't lead society because men can't do something that women have the capacity to do. Can you even have a society without women? Obviously not. Men can choose to serve society as defenders. They just won't serve women. That's a choice. It's not a "woman can" or "women can't" problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 10:40 PM
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Matriarchies can still have men as soldiers. Men just won't do it because they can dominate women with violence. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 10:18 PM
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You're equating being violent with being good leaders or being smart. Women are capable of being good leaders and inventing things just like men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:58 PM
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Yes. And my favorite, they claim they do it for our benefit and it's good for us. Oh please.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:52 PM
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There are barely any matriarchies to begin with because men use violence to dominate. Matriarchies were not allowed to exist. That doesn't mean women can't lead or build society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:49 PM
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Not irrational. If you have a problem with my viewpoint you can take it up with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:43 PM
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All patriarchies everywhere in the world advanced beyond primitive tribal living. This is false. You are way too generous with male-dominated societies. A lot of them are shit holes and the worst places on Earth right now are all male-dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:42 PM
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Patriarchies are not gynocentric. They give men privileges over women. If women were so happy with them we would never had had feminism in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:35 PM
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Yes. He argued that male leadership causes society to advance. Male leadership means oppressing women because women are not allowed to lead. Hence he is arguing that oppressing women is good for society and causes society to advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:31 PM
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I don’t agree with that. I do not believe that oppression of women causes society to advance. We advanced despite women being oppressed, not because of it. Some of the most backwards places in the world when it comes to women’s rights are also some of the poorest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:37 AM
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You have to fight evil with evil. The first step is understanding your enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:03 AM
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Doesn’t address what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:52 AM
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Funny that you think women weren’t being raped by powerful men and that they always had a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:49 AM
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Men are oppressive and abusive towards women because they benefit from it. Women don’t need to oppress men to get what they want in life. This is well-understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:48 AM
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You can’t generalize like that. A lot of patriarchies also don’t advance beyond extremely primitive living. See parts of Middle East and Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:46 AM
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If men actually served women instead of expecting women to serve them then they would do a lot better. Women don’t choose to be maids and breeders when they have the choice to work and support themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:28 AM
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I know right? Like all these guys complaining about not “getting” sex. Well what are they offering to women? Women do not desire men like they desire us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:26 AM
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I'm fine with men 5'8 and up. Ideal height for me is around 5'10, though I wouldn't turn down taller. I'm 5'5.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:28 AM
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Women don't tolerate men who make less than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:32 PM
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Well I wouldn't go that far. There are still women out there who think men are worth putting up with. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:30 PM
1

A lot of famous actresses look good well into their 30s and 40s. You can tell they're older but they still look good. Getting older doesn't mean a good looking woman turns into looking like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:26 PM
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I don't have a problem with getting child support from a man and not having to put up with his bullshit in my daily life. The end :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:27 PM
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Because money is the only thing a man brings to a relationship. He is not going to be giving birth or raising children like women are. He can't make up for that deficit so he has to stick to making money. You can argue that men can be stay-at-home dads while the wife works full-time, and that trade-off might be worth it for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:13 PM
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No one cares about homemaking anymore. You can hire someone to do it. Same with childcare. Just make more money to afford what you need. Why on earth would any man even care if his wife cooks or cleans unless he is a male chauvinist asshole who wants to dominate his wife. Also, surprise, men can cook and clean too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:01 PM
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He totally made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:49 AM
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Or a revenge fantasy for incels to take out their anger on women who rejected them when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:48 AM
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If someone is attractive enough to be a professional actress then they're gonna look good well into their 30s, maybe longer. It's not surprising that they would still be cast in these roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:28 AM
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It's a fun place to talk about gender issues and also see what men are thinking. Some posts are more on point than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:28 PM
1

I actually don't think this is true. I've learned a lot from my experiences of being sexually assaulted and I don't find people dismissing my opinions as "less valid." If what you're saying is true and valid then people will listen to you. If you're just venting about your experience of being assaulted, which you are totally allowed to do, then most men are not going to empathize with you and care. Because frankly they don't care and it's not their problem. And THAT is why women go to PPF.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:15 PM
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They're not approached the most nor appreciated the most by men. If they get into relationships it's with guys who are subpar - not successful, bad personality, etc. I mean if all you're saying is men will fuck them then yes that's true. This type of post just shows that you don't understand what women value and what women compete for in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:54 PM
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Women are more likely to get attached when they're inexperienced. But they adapt to not getting overly attached after being treated like shit by shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:45 PM
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And do you think men are capable of this? If your answer is no, then why should women bother with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:20 PM
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Just because someone is capable of making the sacrifices required to stay in a life long marriage, doesn’t mean they will choose to. There is so much freedom and no restrictions placed on our behavior today - for men and women - that a lot of people will not choose the route which requires sacrifice. People just want to live for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:19 PM
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You realize that you basically described the male condition as it has been since the beginning of civilization? Women used to be forced to marry because that's the only way they wouldn't starve, as they weren't allowed to work. How was that valuing men for their love?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 08:57 PM
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That's not worth it. Just girls shooting out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:45 AM
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What's with asking girls to dance for you? Just go to a strip club lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:34 AM
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Lol! I hate how that made me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:49 AM
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Women don't have to seduce. Men are programmed to hunt down women and try to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:42 AM
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You already said that you don't want kids and you give up on getting married. So why do you expect other people to solve that for you? Figure out yourself how you're gonna solve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:32 PM
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Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:42 PM
2

I don’t know why you say this. I want guys to leave me alone when I’m disinterested. I think men take disinterest as a sign to keep trying but that’s not a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:49 AM
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They don't seem concerned about getting consent from women and think disinterest from women should be ignored and powered through. That sounds like coercion to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:22 AM
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They think coercion and rape is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:22 PM
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How is rape and sexual assault not a big deal??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:35 PM
1

Women absolutely do make a big deal out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:10 PM
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Yes this is the reality of life of a woman. It tells you that a lot of men out there are dangerous predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:08 PM
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He's not getting effortless hookups by straight up disrespecting people. Doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:04 PM
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Yes. Just because a guy is attractive doesn't mean women are thirsty and desperate to have sex with him. If he could just learn to act like a normal person, and then politely ask if she's interested in casual or hooking up, then he would likely be successful. Sounding like he has no regard for the other person's feelings is a turn off because he could be dangerous or selfish in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:03 PM
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Sex is about power. Not 100% of the time. But there's so much excess demand and desperation from men that we learn to use it as a tool. Might as well when men are capable of raping us and taking it by force anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 01:17 AM
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Women can get hurt for sure by men who manipulate or lie to them. But you’d be surprised by how much we don’t care if a hot guy is honest about his intentions of wanting a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:58 PM
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I wouldn’t say they want to marry the best looking beta they can. But they know if they’re not attractive enough for Chad and won’t be valued by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:55 PM
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Well you also have women on here, like me, telling you that we do have a short term mating strategy. I think some women just don’t pursue it because they can’t handle the social stigma and/or emotional consequences. Women aren’t delicate princesses who can’t reproduce unless the guy is committed to her and a stable presence in her life. Real life is a lot harsher than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:30 PM
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I’m just sharing my perspective as a woman. We do have a dual mating strategy- short term and long term. We do prefer to get long term if we have the choice, but we will use short term if that’s what’s available to us. We don’t want to stay celibate forever just because we haven’t met our Prince Charming yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:17 PM
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I don’t think the more attractive a woman is the less her partner count is. If anything she has more opportunities to fuck around because there are more guys interested in her. Women can simply want sex from a guy and nothing else. Think of a very attractive guy who has a bad personality and doesn’t have his life together. Women might not want to marry him but he’ll still get laid. The difference in attractiveness levels is that a more attractive woman will have higher standards. She expects an …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:08 PM
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It has nothing to do with their looks. It’s just who they are as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 10:35 PM
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A think a lot of them just don’t care enough to make an effort in a relationship because they can just coast and still get girls. They could though if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 10:26 PM
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A lot of the very attractive guys that I’ve hooked up with just didn’t have enough in common with me to be a good match. And it’s just how it is. I don’t really blame anyone for that. If I met a guy who had it all- attractive, good personality, similar values/life goals then I absolutely would try to date them. Can’t say if it will work out or if he reciprocates but I’m not gonna let him pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 10:22 PM
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Chill. Anyone can use Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 10:19 PM
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I mean were you expecting anything different? If you have to throw yourself at a guy then you know he’s just using you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:54 AM
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They’re only screwed if they can’t deal with reality. It’s not hard to accept that you peaked at some point and focus your attention on something other than relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 02:49 AM
1

When I was younger I wanted a relationship, but I would take hookups if I was single. I was also picky about who I would be in a relationship with. A lot of the guys I hooked up with came back for more but it didn't work out because they were losers 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 09:38 PM
3

You can't get a 10 if you tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:52 PM
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You only hate it because you can't win it. You can't change the game though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:43 PM
1

Your standards are women who are 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:42 PM
3

Yes. You have a lot of anger towards women for rejecting you. We know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:38 PM
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This discussion isn't relevant after people get old. Men get old and ugly too. If they would rather pay a younger woman then they can. Ain't nobody hating the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:37 PM
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All they bring is an insatiable desire to use you and slake their lust on you. And they have the audacity to wonder why women aren’t lining up to be their fleshlights.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:44 PM
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Lol. As if it’s up to us to explain why he should want to be in a relationship. If he doesn’t then he doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:41 PM
1

Ah I see. Well I’m over 30 so I’m over that whole scene. Tinder wasn’t around when I was younger so I didn’t have my pick of tall buff guys for one night stands 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:30 PM
2

You think most women would take either one? I’m not so sure about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:06 PM
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Yes I understand what you mean. But you can't ignore a woman's mating strategy. If I met a guy I wanted a relationship with, but he didn't want one and just wanted sex, then I would't sleep with him because I would be letting him use me. So just because a woman isn't giving it up freely doesn't mean the guy isn't desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:52 PM
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If she's a 10 she doesn't need to bring anything else. Why do you think women need to prove themselves to men? You already know men trip over themselves to go after pretty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:39 PM
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A woman wanting a relationship with you isn’t settling for you. You still need to have desirable qualities for her to want an LTR. It’s possible for women to want a man for sex but not take him seriously for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:21 AM
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I'm a woman. I know women don't need muscle tone to be hot to a lot of guys out there. Maybe not you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:55 PM
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Keep up the therapy man. Sounds like you need more self-love and self-compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:42 PM
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Yeah...my point is you shouldn't need that kind of validation to feel happy with yourself. I think you need to look into therapy. And not everyone else can get LTRs. Reddit is full of incels who talk about how they can't find anyone to give them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:33 PM
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I looked at your post history a bit. You don't have to hate yourself for being average. Most people are average. Why do you need to be good enough for casual sex? You are still good enough to find a partner if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:01 PM
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I guess. It's not the standard though. And the women probably have to cater to the guy to keep him around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:44 PM
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Women don't need to lift weights to be hot, is what I'm saying. Just don't eat too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:34 PM
2

Women don't need to work out to be hot. Just stay a healthy weight and the rest is genetics. Also we're not bimbos lining up to get a boob job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:14 PM
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How exactly are you going to lie or embellish about your height?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:48 PM
2

Not the pretty boys that everyone else likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:30 PM
1

I don’t think patriarchy is part of our evolved nature. It is a cultural construct. But humans can also have other cultural constructs that are more egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:55 AM
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It's not too hard to imagine why the patriarchy developed. Because men were greedy bullies who used violence to dominate women and hog all the resources. That's all there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:36 AM
1

What you're describing is hate and anger at rejection, not looking down on. The opposite of love is indifference, not hate. Women are indifferent to men, and men hate women. There is a difference. You are in denial about your own feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:12 AM
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The reason male oriented subs get banned is because they advocate violence and sexual assault to get what they want. Women oriented subs do not do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:10 AM
1

Yes finally a sane man on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:01 AM
1

We're probably not from the same country.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:47 PM
2

Women do not get real compassion from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:04 PM
0

Yeah no. Women are not to blame for men being men and pursuing their own mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:02 PM
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I don’t know. I don’t think men just stop wanting a loving relationship if they become successful. The men who don’t want to commit have personalities that make them don’t want to commit, it’s not tied to how desirable they are. But the more desirable a man is the higher his standards will be, so he’s going to be pickier than the average guy when he looks for a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:58 PM
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The problem with pick-mes is that they end up hurting themselves in the end because they tolerate the most selfish behavior from men. Men who want to use women love pick-mes and try to find women who have weak boundaries and low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:44 AM
1

It’s not something I enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:48 AM
1

Because it has happened to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:32 AM
0

...they can’t be your friend without trying to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:15 AM
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If they want to fuck you then they can’t be your friend without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:55 AM
1

If you are trying to hit on a woman who is out of your league, yes my advice is don't bother, because she will try to shut down that interaction right away. It's not the same for men because women aren't as aggressive about pursuing men as men are about pursuing women, so if a woman is interested in a man but he doesn't like her back it's no big deal. He isn't afraid that she will become too aggressive or persistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 11:29 PM
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The women are trying to avoid making you think that you have a chance with them. If they were nicer to you you would start pursuing them and thinking you have a chance. If she has to talk to you for some other reason, like work or other social reason not related to dating, then it should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 11:19 PM
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That's why it's always good to clarify what both people are looking for before going too far. And hopefully both people have the decency to be honest. I also don't think a guy who is only trying to fuck, and being honest about it, would really invest too much in a girl and make her think that he was interested in more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:25 PM
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It's not using sex to get a relationship. It's thinking that he wants her for a relationship and having those feelings for him, only to find out that he was lying and didn't have the same feelings for her. She wants sex as part of a relationship, not the sex on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:12 PM
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Yes intimacy triggers a lot of feelings and it should be handled with sensitivity and maturity. That's all I'm trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:59 PM
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If he said he was looking for a relationship, and took her out, and acted like he was interested, then slept with her and ghosted the next day, yes he was trying to use her. This is a manipulation tactic. You don't understand how manipulative and predatory some men can be about women they want to have sex with. They don't care about other people's feelings they just want to use them for what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:57 PM
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You sound like you have no idea how to treat someone correctly. No one likes to feel like they don't matter after they have sex with someone. This doesn't mean that you two are on the way to being in a committed relationship. It's just basic decency towards another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:54 PM
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This isn't right. Sometimes women are looking for a relationship and they wouldn't have sex with the guy if he wasn't looking for a relationship. The guys who do this absolutely know what they're doing and it's a manipulation tactic. Don't validate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:44 PM
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Yes. It's easy for a man to fake being interested in a woman until he gets what he wants. This happens when he knows that the woman is interested in him for a relationship. Not all guys will do this because some actually have morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:40 PM
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Even in these situations I am not too sure. There has to be some sort of 'love is blind' shit going on here because it should still be glaringly obvious to a woman if she is not getting what she is being promised while regularly meeting up with a man for sex. I am more prone to believe that she is so attracted to this man that she just allows him more room for error like another comment suggested. If the manipulation tactics work once or twice, it still works. The guy is still using the woman. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:36 PM
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Maybe she’s waiting because she wants to get to know you better and doesn’t just want a hook up? I don’t know why you phrase it like it’s a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:22 PM
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Yup it’s mostly misogynistic nonsense. And it stems from them knowing that they’re losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:20 PM
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It’s not wimpy to be sympathetic to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:13 PM
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Thank you for your awareness. I don’t like it if a man gets too close to me when I’m walking on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:09 PM
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Way to be unsympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:07 PM
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Lol it’s a hypothetical. I’m not actually married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:40 AM
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Not if he's just gonna try to get laid when I'm not in the mood. I know better than to subject myself to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:53 AM
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I don't know why it's so hard for people like you to just listen to what someone else has to say. Yes, it's true the speaker came from wealth and privilege, and it's true she's a trans woman, but that doesn't mean what she experienced is wrong and not worth thinking about. Just hearing her say that men interrupt women and don't assume women know what they're talking about tells me that she sees the arrogance of high-powered men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:52 AM
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Lol I'd be fine not touching my husband if he can be satisfied with porn. Less work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:43 AM
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I don't plan on settling. I can just stay single. I agree with you I wouldn't want to marry a man I'm not crazy about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 06:33 AM
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They matter to the women doing them. And yes women will be respected for contributing to society, just like men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 09:18 PM
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He is the one who doesn’t value women for anything else other than fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 09:12 PM
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Women aren't angry because women can always get men and get men to do things for them. Men are angry because they cannot get any woman for anything unless they work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 08:26 PM
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The root of the issue is that men are insane and hate women because women don’t desire them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 02:58 AM
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Men are not expected to do anything. Plenty of men do date and play around with younger women. Some men get sugar babies for this reason. It just so happens that normal 20 year old girls don’t want to marry 35 year old men so these relationships don’t work out. And of course it’s a good deed to support and care for children. Doesn’t mean anyone expects men to become step fathers, it’s their choice to do it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 02:22 AM
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I’ve met non Chads who also treat women like shit. It’s not just the attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 12:30 AM
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That’s not why they get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 08:12 PM
2

Ugh I know. And they don’t even see their own sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:47 PM
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Don’t assume women with good jobs are “diversity hires”, that is insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:59 AM
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Most men in their 20s don't have the career success of men in their 30s, so it's not the same. Women can pick up a work-in-progress in his 20s or try to get a finished product in his 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 03:27 AM
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If you call having a woman’s perspective FDS then fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:19 PM
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Sorry for your experiences but the sexual predators, abusers and callous playboys are NOT the same group as the men sitting around sad that they havent felt a womans touch in years. If you say so 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:48 PM
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Men catch feels all the time. It's very rare for a man to actually want to commit to a woman. You make it sound like men are so virtuous and they all just want love and connection but as a woman I can tell you that is not what men are like. We learn that real quick when we first start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:20 PM
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That's not what I meant. I meant men would all take sex with no investment and no responsibility on their end if they could get way with it. Minimal effort for maximum gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:08 PM
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Sex is not a route to love lmao. I’ve been on this earth long enough to know that men don’t give a crap about love they just want to fuck women and not get reported to the police for rape. Yes it’s possible for men to love women but the problem is you just can’t make someone like you back if they don’t want to fuck you. And the pent up anger you feel over this turns into this creepy sexual frustration which is very off putting to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:18 PM
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Men who appear to be violent and misogynistic are probably violent and misogynistic. Men who don’t can also be violent and misogynistic. The first group just doesn’t try to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:07 PM
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I mean chatting and getting to know people is still useful. The pandemic won’t last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 12:20 AM
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It isn’t rare. But it’s mostly guys that you aren’t that interested in in the first place. And even those guys will usually try their luck first and see if you would have casual sex with them. Bottom line men are dogs don’t take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 12:01 AM
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Yes of course she shouldn't have it if she can't raise it herself, and she knows that you don't want to raise the child. I don't see why that's a compelling argument to give you the RIGHT to not support a child who is biologically yours, and that you fathered voluntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 12:31 AM
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The woman is relieving herself of her pregnancy. You don't have that option because you don't get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 10:30 PM
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Sometimes I really wish there was true equality in our society, like unbiased courts, zero affirmative action, financial abortion, etc. You will never be treated identically to women because you do not have the reproductive burden that women have. Men are not the ones who gestate live young and are the primary caregivers of infants by default. What you are asking for is having a system that puts you first instead of putting women and children first. And that's not going to happen because men do …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 10:28 PM
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Don't father a child you don't want. This line of thinking is just embarrassing. You only have empathy for your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 10:20 PM
3

Some women have lower self-esteem and are less smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 10:01 PM
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I think anyone fucked up enough to rape has a personality disorder. Hot men are not exempt from this of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 09:30 PM
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Women are attracted to the average guy enough to start a relationship but not enough to have casual sex. I don’t think this makes sense. Yes it does. Because with a relationship I am also looking for a lot of other traits besides good looks and making sure he's not going to murder me. So I am willing to stay with a guy who's less attractive because he's bringing other things to the table. With the hookup I'm just getting the sexual experience so I'm not worried about long-term compatibility. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 09:25 PM
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Oh ok so you’re going to keep producing surplus value because it suits you. I don’t know why I’m even arguing with you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:06 PM
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And what does that prove? We don’t need your tax dollars either. Go ahead and make an income below the poverty level if that suits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 05:22 PM
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Every taxpayer funds those things. If you want to argue that wealth is redistributed through taxes we're gonna have to tax our super wealthy people a lot more than we're doing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:09 AM
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The surplus value of the wealthy is not redistributed in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:35 PM
2

Please list me one job that typically is done by a man but a woman cannot possibly do, no matter how hard she tries. Can't think of one? Right. Society doesn't need men to keep it running.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:57 PM
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The current tax laws in the US ensures that the rich get richer and the rest of us stay poor (relatively speaking). I know other countries have way better redistribution. And again, men are required to work a certain amount in order to survive. It’s not like all male labor will disappear overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:21 PM
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You’re gonna have to put numbers to what you’re saying. How much money does a man need to survive? How much does he make at his current job? Wages in a lot of jobs just aren’t that high for people to cut back and still live comfortably.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:19 PM
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I don’t think men can survive without slaving away. At least that’s what I see as an American (don’t know if you’re American or not). People live paycheck to paycheck anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 08:55 PM
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I don’t believe men reducing their work hours will affect much. Most people need to work full time in order to make a living wage. Heck a lot of people need 2 jobs just to make ends meet. You’re forgetting how hard it is just to put a roof over your head and food on the table for someone living in a wealthy industrialized country. As for police and firefighters, they have their own rules which would forbid you from working “part time” anyway. My point is you already have to work a lot of hours j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 08:45 PM
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You overestimate your own importance. The result of men’s productivity is accumulation of wealth, which just sits in their pocket anyway and doesn’t benefit society in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 08:31 PM
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I’m fine if men stop being productive and only worry about their own survival. As long as they don’t start raping and oppressing women en masse. Stop thinking your gender is so important and the rest of us just can’t get by without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 08:24 PM
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I’m sorry but society does not need men to keep it running. And even if you don’t want to work you still have to for your own survival. This line of thinking doesn’t work. The world doesn’t care if you quit and starve to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 08:18 PM
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I honestly don't know what you're talking about. What do you mean you want girls to love you "unconditionally". Find someone who genuinely likes you for who you are. You are focusing too much on the standards that women have and it probably has to do with you feeling insecure about who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 05:44 AM
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As a woman I have to say that women stop being willing to date sub par men once they realize they can actually attract better men. Having a good personality is not going to save a guy if he doesn’t meet her criteria for looks/money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:35 PM
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They're the ones who have to keep making an effort to pursue women and convince women to date them. I think most men are in this category.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 08:35 PM
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I mean it all comes back to sex appeal and dating. If women wanted to let themselves go they could. The only negative affect it will have on their lives is men will be less attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:20 AM
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Friendship is way more fundamental a need than sex. Children and older adults who might not care about sex anymore still need friendship. I don’t think sex is a need it’s just the drive to reproduce. Not every individual human needs to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 12:14 AM
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Women can’t all match up with the men they want is the problem. They’re not lining up to be part of a harem. An undesirable man should already know that he is undesirable. He doesn’t need women to spell it out for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:58 PM
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They do get socially punished lol that’s what the 80/20 rule is all about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 06:25 PM
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It’s not bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 02:26 PM
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Yeah your analogy doesn’t work. If a man is interested in other men I would want to know that. That’s not the same as asking him how many people he’s slept with or whether he likes to be submissive in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 04:50 AM
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Men are the natural predator of women. Women would be better off if 90% of the male population was gone. It is absolutely logical for women to hate and resent men for all the misery they put us through.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 03:00 AM
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There’s nothing you can do to tip the dating market balance in men’s favor. Things are the way they are and it just is. You can try to understand it and not make silly mistakes but women don’t just bend to your will because you ask them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:50 PM
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Some of them are trapped financially and can’t leave. If they are married they are also pressured by family to stay with the abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:33 PM
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You can’t get someone to do what you want. They are either willing or not. All you can do is treat people well and leave a relationship if it’s not working for you. Don’t try to manipulate people into doing what you want that’s not “nice”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:21 PM
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I don't think you can generalize. It sounds like this is just how your relationship is. It's normal for both partners to check in on the other and do things for the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 07:04 AM
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It’s not just the lust it’s their egos too. Men are just fucked up about sex and I’m really fucking sick of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 09:03 PM
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The reasonable ones want women to understand what their situation is like and want society in general to stop telling them that it’s gonna get better. I do agree with the incel community in saying that men who are below a certain looks threshold will never find a woman who is genuinely attracted to them. All they can get is transactional sex for money. The unreasonable ones actually think they’re entitled to women doing whatever they want with no regard to what the women are thinking or feeling.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 09:00 PM
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Most couples I know are looksmatched. I know one girl who married a slightly better looking guy but she’s the breadwinner in that relationship and he’s an actor trying to “make it”. When I see women try to date men out of their league they usually just end up as doormats in the relationship. Like if the guy suggests an open relationship or threesome she’ll just agree to it and think she’s being empowered but it’s all a load of crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:13 AM
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I don't care about n-count in a guy. But I would probably get along best with someone who was experienced and has a liberal attitude about sex. If a guy asks me I would assume he was insecure and it's a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 08:07 PM
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Speak for yourself. Having a high n count doesn’t mean you can’t take people seriously or pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 07:34 PM
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Men are all attracted to alpha women, just like women are all attracted to Chad. But few men can get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 12:05 AM
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My point is your story isn't helpful. Yes you pursued a much younger girl for a fling. Did you think it was gonna go anywhere? You were just following your dick not thinking long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 11:15 PM
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I don't think aesthetic has much to do with it. If you take race out of the picture and only talk about white people, then there can easily be women from poorer backgrounds that white men from richer backgrounds will find hot. These men will date these women for fun but I doubt they will want to marry someone with significantly less education and status than themselves. Especially since they have UMC women who will be interested in them, so no need to settle for LMC.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 11:12 PM
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Men will pursue women for sex only. This is well known. Most male attention women get is spam.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 11:05 PM
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Can’t he get a girlfriend? Also does he expect casual sex to be easy to get if he isn’t Chad? Gotta know better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:54 PM
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Jesus I hope not. Their brains would be fried.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 06:51 PM
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Swipe swipe swipe for Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 08:04 AM
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I think the struggle they describe is on apps like Tinder, where it's hard for average looking guys to get any matches worth pursuing. If you're talking about meeting girls through social circles, or just trying to talk to women in bars, then yeah I agree with you. A 5'10 white dude is going to find some decent looking chick who's into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 07:18 AM
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Because they know they would get dumped by Chad. Cut the crap every woman checks out a Chad when he's in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 07:15 AM
1

Maybe for men? But for women it's easy to rack up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 10:14 PM
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Most of the partners from someone with high n count comes from one night stands or flings that were never meant to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 10:08 PM
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Not for people who can get hookups easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 10:06 PM
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I think alpha female just means the female in the group that is most desirable to men. So probably a combination of good looks, personality, and maybe intelligence. But you can't translate alpha male traits to females because females aren't selected for the same traits as males are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 10:03 PM
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They're not entitled to hand jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:57 PM
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15 to 25 is pretty tame nowadays. Sorry to disappoint you. You're gonna have to reach down to undergrads if you want that n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:26 PM
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Why shouldn't a woman be able to jump from guy to guy? Women get dumped and abused all the time and it's a survival mechanism for them to get over a guy and move on. Just sounds like men want to have their cake and eat it too. Ain't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:14 PM
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What's the point though? They're not going to get a virgin unless they buy one from abroad or prey on teenagers. It's just the norm for people in their 20s/30s that they've had the casual dating/hook-up phase in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:12 PM
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I've never had a high value man ask me, no. I remember one idiot I met for a date asked me and I just said I'm not answering that. And then after that I just stopped caring about him. He turned out to be a weird creep anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 09:00 PM
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If he respects me then I can respect him back. If he doesn't then I stay away from him. It's up to him to not make his dick the center of the interaction with me and actually see me as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 08:55 PM
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I don't know why you think women are looking for blind obedience. You're gonna have to show me the page where it says that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 01:52 AM
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There are aspects of men's biology and nature that makes then antagonistic to women. Different men exhibit this to varying degrees. Some guys are quite good to women, others are absolute shit and a waste of women's time. They add nothing to a woman's life and will only saddle her with children and drain her from her energy and money. It's not about beating men at a game. It's about finding men who are worth their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:37 PM
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It looks like most of the posts there are about building self-esteem and not settling for less. I don't see what's wrong with that. I know that men are endlessly selfish and lazy if women let them get away with it. Women are the gatekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:17 PM
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I don't like rough sex. Best thing to do is just ask each partner if they're into choking or whatever BEFORE you do it. Don't just spring it on someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 06:22 PM
2

I think you can cure the incels from their depression and delusion but women are still going to fuck pretty guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:09 AM
6

Haha I think you're onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:34 AM
2

Do you have evidence that these women don’t fuck their husbands? They’re basically prostitutes transacting their bodies for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 02:19 AM
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The dark triad things come from the fact that narcissists tend to be charming and are able to win people over, at least initially. Then after a while the facade drops and people see how horrible they really are. So it's not really true that women are attracted to dark triad traits, it's that people in general can be charmed and manipulated by individuals with these traits. You can't seriously believe that women would love men who are shitty human beings and treat them like shit over men who trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:56 PM
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No one really cares if you have an urge to fuck lots of women. Don't expect women to stick around while you cheat though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:51 PM
2

That goes without saying. No woman would choose to marry a man she's not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:35 PM
4

If you feel like committing to a woman means you are entitled to her body then you shouldn’t commit to one. You are not entitled to sex from anyone. No one has to fuck you if they don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 10:36 PM
5

Yeah I agree. People love to be hypocrites and criticize others but never judge their own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:48 PM
3

I’m not going to respond to this if you think women should put up with being treated like living fleshlights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:06 PM
5

Men could rape their wives without any consequences until the 1970s in the US. So for them getting married was gaining a chattel slave who had no right to refuse you. I can't even imagine being a woman living with a man who I had no right to refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:30 PM
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Some women are just deluded and don't want to admit their own shallowness because it makes them look bad. Every woman likes a cute/good looking guy, even if they are ugly themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:23 PM
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Only attractive guys get away with using their looks to attract women without developing a good personality. Unattractive guys don't really benefit from this either way. I feel like guys think women like assholes but no, women like hot guys and if they're assholes then oh well they're still hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:19 PM
5

My takeaway from this thread- some men are shittier than others
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 06:38 PM
2

You need to get checked for autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 02:25 AM
5

It’s because men are constantly spamming women with their thirsty horny dicks. If men only pursued women they were interested in for relationships, and only tried to have relationships, then the competition would be a lot less fierce. But we all know that’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:48 AM
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I dunno. I feel like that’s a very lazy way of looking at things. You’re ignoring all the other desirable people around you who would get people’s attention before you do. And you won’t get the attention of anyone desirable if you’re not desirable yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 12:28 AM
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I think the men you are talking about are emotionally immature man children who don't have self-awareness and don't look critically at themselves and think they need to change. A lot of men actively try with going to the gym, grooming, and fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:34 PM
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It's not that women value resources and looks over character. It's that you need to meet the minimum standard for a particular woman before she will even consider you and your personality comes into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:30 PM
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I mean, at some point you must realize that dating is competitive and you have to try to attract people. The advice "be yourself" doesn't mean don't try to be desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:25 PM
0

This doesn't actually happen unless the woman is not as attractive as he is, or unless he is in a relationship and doesn't want to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 09:00 AM
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I don’t know if it’s 95% of men lol. If a guy who is maybe a 6 or 7 wants to hook up with a woman who is a 4 he can still do it pretty easily. So do you want to be dating a guy who is fucking other women on the side while he waits for you to decide if you want to date him or not? That doesn’t sound very fun to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 06:24 AM
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I mean, the only men who would do this have no other options of getting laid. They cannot get any woman to want them enough to have sex with them quicker or with less investment. Those aren’t the most desirable men to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 06:16 AM
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Most men would bail if he is paying for 10+ dates without getting laid. That's just the reality of dating today. I honestly wouldn't tell women to wait that long AND expect him to pay. If she's waiting that long to consider him then she'll have to pay for herself to keep him around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 04:00 AM
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No not for long. But honestly if a guy is attractive enough he can get laid within 2-3 dates. That's hardly long or a big investment. I don't think expecting guys to pay really protects you from much, it's just a nice added bonus you get from interacting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:49 AM
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A lot of men on here have a blind spot for what women actually do in society. It's like they think they're the only ones who are productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 01:36 AM
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There's lots of reasons for women to date him - money, fame, connections. To be fair he isn't hideous and his status in Hollywood is also attractive. But he can't compete in looks with a hot younger actor. Don't overestimate his desirability and think that all younger women would be dying to go out with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 01:08 AM
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hes 45 years old. he looks great for 45 And women younger than about the 40 year mark don't want men who look 45. Leo was hot in his 20s but he started looking weird real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 12:26 AM
1

What desperation? I don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 11:18 PM
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A fit, attractive woman in her 20’s can get married/LTR easily if she wants. The same is simply not true once she’s post 30ish- I don't think this is true as long as the older woman brings something else to the table, like having a decent personality and having their life together. I'm 32 and I've had younger men (28-31 range) who were interested in dating. I honestly don't think it's ever true as long as women bring something else to the table. Older women can and do find love. On the other han…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 10:14 PM
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Yes I was changing the argument lol because the one you're making doesn't matter much in the real world. That was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:47 PM
1

you get to use lots of leftover single moms for only sex. First of all this is very disrespectful. And second of all single moms can still have one night stands with attractive guys. They don't need to dip lower than that if all they want is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:28 PM
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Women don't exist in a vacuum and pointing at them and saying haha you look worse as you age doesn't matter when everyone looks worse as they age. So yes, I take your point that older women aren't as sexually appealing as younger women, all else being equal age will be a factor. But what effect does this actually have on women? Not a whole lot as long as she's one of the more attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:57 PM
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Men that age shouldn't be fathering kids, even though it's technically possible. Also there's a higher chance of abnormalities when the father's age increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:34 PM
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There isn't an SMV apex for undesirable men. If they are ugly they will always be ugly. They can work hard and get a good career but they will still be ugly and will still need to beta buxx if they want an attractive woman. I don't get the fantasy these guys have that they will somehow be drowning in hot young women once they get older. Like no, hot young women will always want hot men, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:07 PM
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Lol ok I’m sure you know so much about me and who I date right? Yeah no. I’m fine with what I get.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 05:13 PM
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I feel like the guys who argue this are either insecure, have been burned by women, or just straight up don't understand how other people think. They're railing against a population who can't be bothered to pay attention to them and they think they can get us to do what they want. Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:34 AM
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And you know very well that in the overwhelming majority of dates, it isnt a $4 coffee. I am perfectly happy with a coffee on a first date. If it's not a $4 coffee, then maybe it's a $10 beer. I don't expect anything more expensive than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:09 AM
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I'm not hypocritical. You do what you think is right. Let the cards fall where they fall. Also you're nuts to think allowing someone to have sex with me is on the same level as expecting a $4 coffee. Women invest a lot and take emotional and physical risks when they sleep with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 01:02 AM
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I don't have a shortage of men interested so I'm doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 09:22 PM
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As a woman I have to say that men don't stop using women for sexual gratification just because he invested time and money. He will still lie to get in her pants and also pay for her when he's not up for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 08:08 PM
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It's selecting for men who are willing and capable of being providers in a relationship. If he doesn't bother with a $4 coffee on a first date, then what else is he not gonna step up and pay for. It's not like I'm expecting a male partner to be better than me at emotional labor or childcare. And he's sure as hell not gonna be the one to get pregnant and give birth. That's all on me. So if he's not willing to be a good provider than I might as well not have him around. If a guy has a problem with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 07:59 PM
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You do you. Other people will do them. Not gonna change anyone by arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:59 PM
1

Do you not understand that some women want you to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 04:58 AM
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If you date a woman eventually you will have sex. Sex is part of the relationship yes? I guess I'll phrase it as, if women won't continue to date you if you don't treat them well then don't complain about it. But let's be real we all know what men want from women and not admitting to that doesn't help your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 01:03 AM
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It's looking for a man who can provide. Women still want men to be providers even though women can also provide in the modern age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 12:59 AM
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Your view is correct so why do you want to change it? Yes men want to continue controlling women so they push back against feminism and continue to delude themselves (and women) that women are inferior and are meant to be controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 12:11 AM
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Straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 12:02 AM
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I’m telling you how to behave in a specific social situation. A lot of women would not want to go out with you again if you don’t pay and you’re better off not going on the date and then having her balk at the end. But if you would rather take your chances go ahead. You can’t control what women want. She’s free to reject you if you don’t pay for her. If you’re not happy about that that’s too bad because it not up to you to decide what a particular woman should accept from a guy before she agrees…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 12:00 AM
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Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:46 PM
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I think you should tell her that you expect her to pay for herself before you go on the date. Otherwise you would waste people’s time and they’re not gonna see you again anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:42 PM
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It’s really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:24 PM
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She is not entitled to your money. You are also not entitled to her. No one is entitled to anything. Don’t complain about not getting women because you are not entitled to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:23 PM
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Do you expect to eventually stick your penis into a woman you invited on a date? Because a girl friend doesn’t have a penis she wants to stick in me so you can’t compare the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:21 PM
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Look, you’re free to do what you want. And so are women. And if women won’t fuck you if you don’t treat them well then don’t complain about it. Because that’s entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 11:08 PM
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Does that work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:51 PM
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Do you actually think women have to date you? Do you think you are owed affection from women without meeting her standards? Pull your head out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:50 PM
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Are you actually worried that men will stop fucking real women in favor of virtual reality porn? Because that’s not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:39 PM
1

Your comments are both disturbing and contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:35 PM
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No one is forcing you to ask anyone out. You are not entitled to dates or relationships. It’s your lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:31 PM
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Not a cop out. You are not entitled to dates and relationships with women. If no women chase you then that’s your lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:29 PM
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The guy I eventually end up marrying, if that ever happens, is not gonna have a problem with paying for our dates. That’s all I have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 10:25 PM
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He's an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:25 PM
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Men never needed to do nice things for women to get sex. Yes they do. Otherwise women wouldn't have sex with them. What men had to worry about was OTHER MEN. So you're basically saying that men had to be nice because other men would kill them. That still means they had to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 07:49 PM
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Lol ok. I'll try to address the examples you brought up. No it's not ok for women to lie about being raped. No where is anyone saying that is ok. That doesn't mean every woman who says that she's been raped should be doubted either. That's not fair to real victims. Women can have women's only grants, contracts, and scholarships because women are underrepresented in certain fields. And this is because they were not allowed to pursue these fields until sometime in the last century, while men have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:30 PM
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Female privileges make sense because men are willing to do nice things for women in order to get sex. That's part of men's nature. It's all a dance between the two sexes who are both trying to get what they want and maximizing their advantages over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:11 PM
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Women aren’t really seen as human. Bravo sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:09 PM
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I think you should be comfortable with your sexuality and know what feels good to you. But you’re right you don’t need to do things you don’t like just to please a guy. If a girl is doing that she probably has low self esteem and thinks subconsciously that she’s not good enough for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:11 PM
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Why is your focus on getting laid? Most women are repelled by this If they sense you just want to get in their pants. Better to get to know women as people and then maybe one of them will take interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:04 PM
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I don't think I'm entitled to a relationship. I think PUA tactics are exploitative and predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 06:39 PM
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This is sexist and stupid. PUAs teach men how to coerce women and deceive and manipulate them. That’s Is not what women want. You actually think you guys are “smarter” and you are doing women a favor and you’re just a bunch of creepy assholes. Fuck off with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 06:12 PM
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Manipulating women into sex and then dumping them is also wrong. PUA guys don't give a shit about what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:26 AM
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Yup this is true. With a hook up the only thing I’m getting out of it is sex so I might as well get the hottest guy I can. With a relationship there’s more factors to consider so I’m not as picky with looks. Though he still has to meet some minimum threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:11 AM
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Most men will take sex if they can get it. Many aggressively pursue it without concern for the woman’s feelings. Saying men don’t care about casual sex is...not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:35 PM
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Women aren’t turned off by basic human decency. So I think something else is going on here. Maybe the women you’ve dated are lazy and don’t want to decide anything in a relationship, or maybe they’re too passive and aren’t comfortable asserting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:19 PM
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I don’t think it’s just desire for reproduction. Humans naturally learn from each other and we’re able to build on the progress of earlier generations. People want to make their lives more comfortable and discover new things. This doesn’t have to do with attracting a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:25 PM
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So don't get married. You're comparing not having a relationship to someone not having their basic human rights. You can't really compare the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:06 AM
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The thing with hypergamy is that men are also hypergamous but it’s with women’s looks. So a less attractive guy will pick a more attractive woman even if it means she makes nothing and he has to support her. It’s worth it to him. But women are hypergamous about money and resources, so a beautiful woman will marry a less attractive guy if he has money and can support her. If a woman ends up supporting a man she’s either doing it wrong or she is being looks hypergamous and acting like the provider…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:27 AM
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I think the women who are happy with less ambitious partners probably aren’t the more attractive ones so they never had their pick of the more “alpha” guys to begin with. They’re just happy to find someone who loves them. So no it doesn’t contradict your understanding of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:03 AM
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I think he’s asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:00 AM
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The only gender lacking empathy is men. Women have empathy for everyone but we give up after repeated abuse and ill treatment from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:00 PM
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I’ll definitely stop an encounter or tell guys I need more foreplay if they’re rushing to the main event. But other than that there’s not much I can do to make someone who’s totally clueless into a good lover. It’s not even enjoyable for me anymore if I have to give instructions and then potentially argue with them if they don’t want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:50 PM
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I don’t think sex is a need for women or men. It’s a strong drive to be sure but no one dies from not slapping their genitals with someone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:22 AM
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Porn sex is not normal or healthy. It’s male centered fantasy designed to get men off without concern for female pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:03 AM
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Well, they do have an advantage over men who don’t have these high status jobs. Women who have high status jobs (almost always) want men who have similar jobs. These guys might be trying to date out of their league looks wise. If a guy is really handicapped on looks then having a good job is not gonna help him much. But to say that wealth doesn’t attract women period is a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:23 AM
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Lol you can find out if the baby is yours. Relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:58 AM
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Then don’t get anything then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:09 AM
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Men can still contribute as supportive partners and providers. It's when they get bitter because they can't be more genetically gifted that things go wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 02:12 AM
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Of course. If men didn't contribute some value to women other than their sperm, then all women would line up for the most genetically gifted man in the group and get impregnated by him. There's no reason to do anything with the other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:33 AM
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...it's not. Just be hot and sane. Guys will still want you. Usually the problem is these women have mental health or drug problems. Also they need to be able to get another job and not just rely on sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:28 AM
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The girl you're talking about isn't Stacy. A woman who's actually hot (at least 8/10) isn't worried that men don't find her attractive enough to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 09:50 PM
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Actually Chad will approach Stacy, not the other way around. Because men usually approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 09:45 PM
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Men and women want different things, so you can't really compare. A Chad can get what a man wants, which is typically sex without commitment from a lot of women. A Stacy can pick and choose from lots of men, because they are all attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 09:43 PM
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I mean yes you got most of it. There's no point in me competing with other MEN for a partner. We all know how thirsty men are. With a straight guy I can sit pretty knowing that I'm more attractive than most women and he'll know how lucky he is. I just don't even want to go there if I know you can and will get your rocks off with other men. And since bi guys are a small minority I don't see this changing anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 09:15 PM
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They have low self-esteem and don't know how to deal with men. Also they are not desired by other races. Also black men tend to treat women shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 05:25 AM
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A lot of the longer relationships are because they start when the couple is younger and neither of them know what they want yet, so they stay together longer than they otherwise would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 11:57 PM
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They have no place in the western SMP. Way too backwards and misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 11:34 PM
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It’s not about being humble, it’s about having access to better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 02:42 AM
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They stopped liking you because you sound like an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 02:01 AM
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I don't know if demisexulaity is a real thing, or maybe it's just a variation on being asexual. I do see a lot of men who misunderstand women and how attraction works for them. Yes, most men are not attractive enough to succeed on their looks alone. Women aren't out hunting for men to fuck like men do with women. But most women won't end up with the small percentage of attractive men anyway, because there's not enough to go around. So most will learn to accept less attractive men and appreciate …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 07:26 PM
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Hm I don’t know. I can see men visiting the same one over and over again and becoming kind of attached. At some point people realize that paying for sex is just more convenient. But I’m not a man so I can’t say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:17 PM
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The shy loser men of society would rely on prostitution instead of trying to date. Most men would probably do it at least once in their lives. Women would be able to conveniently make some money as sex workers if they choose that route. Law enforcement would have to crack down on sex trafficking and pimping of course. I think it would be a net positive for society as a whole. People are already doing it in some form (like sugar dating) so making it legal and out in the open would just make it ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 03:05 AM
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I would rather stay single than marry a man who needs my support financially. I don't think women's expectations will change, a lot of us will learn to do without a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 09:35 PM
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I dunno. I dated a guy who would try to initiate sex every time I snuggled up to him or tried to hug him. It's like he didn't comprehend physical affection without it being sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 09:04 PM
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Not enough for whom? I don’t give a fuck if companies go bankrupt and rich people become less rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:13 PM
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Your premise doesn't make sense. Men still have to work and consume enough resources for them to live. Women will also consume resources to live. Don't assume women won't fill the lack of productivity left by men, if men actually become less productive. I don't think this will happen because men will still compete for top positions and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 03:18 AM
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Not at all. I had two boyfriends in college and both of them put me on hold because they wanted to see other women. Fine. I wasn't desperate to settle down at that age. The joke's on them though because I wouldn't settle for either of them toady as I've outstripped both of them professionally and I'm also used to dating men who are more physically attractive than they are. Whether that's a good thing or not is debatable, since the better looking guys are harder to pin down. I had one guy who wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:32 AM
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I can see what he’s going for. He wants women to sexually objectify men and see which one is the sexiest. I mean men do it to women constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:11 PM
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I like fit guys with muscle tone, but nothing too extreme. The bodybuilder look turns me off. Being too skinny with no muscle tone is also not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:35 PM
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People pair up with a partner who's a similar level of attractiveness. If the men are above average, then the women were above average too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:27 PM
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I've seen women who punch above their weight when they partner up with a guy, and the guy always disrespects them and openly flirt with other women when they're around. It's a sad sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:24 PM
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Not asking for men to defend me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:42 AM
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In this case it is. It’s defending our way of life and our values.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:40 AM
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If it’s not reciprocated then you will have to go without, or find a girl who does like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:40 AM
1

From men who think it’s ok to rape us and make us their slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:37 AM
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The short answer is yes, women will step into any job that men don’t do if it’s required to keep society running.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:23 AM
1

Dude you are so sexist it’s scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:10 AM
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You didn’t get my point at all. Women will defend society then if the men give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 11:42 PM
8

Find your own damn life project. Women don’t exist to make you happy. If you want to burn things you will be burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:15 PM
3

Maybe more single mother families with women who have sperm donor babies in their late 30s. Less marriage over all and more men and women staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:13 PM
2

Don't bother women. We don't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 02:47 AM
0

Please don’t bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 11:55 PM
2

They do not have to spend it all lol. You are generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:07 AM
6

I don't know if you're trolling, but most women have full-time jobs these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:02 AM
1

Women don't need marriage for their kids to inherit property. Women always know who their kids are. Marriage co-opted women into servants for men to bear and raise their children so the man can pass on his legacy. This is also why kids inherit their dad's surnames, which is also something that I hope to see change in our modern times. And it's true that men provided for his wife and children, but at the same time women were shunned into the domestic sphere and not allowed by society to take on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:00 AM
3

I think in very ancient times people didn’t understand that sex created babies so there was no concept of fatherhood. This is still the case in a tribe in western China. In these societies children would be raised by the mother and her family. If the tribe only consisted of say 30 people then everyone would cooperate and help raise the children of the tribe. Once humans developed agriculture and new technologies we became wealthier and were able to accumulate property. Society became more strati…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:02 AM
1

Eh. Marriage was invented to pass down property to their kids and the only way to do that is to secure a woman who will be faithful and bear your kids. So yes it was an institution invented to benefit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:55 AM
2

It comes from insecurity. They think they can’t find and keep a woman by their side so they want to restrict her behavior. Also in old days a man couldn’t be sure if a baby was his, which is a big part of virginity and modesty being valued in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:40 AM
1

He would be reported and banned long before he reached 1000.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:25 AM
3

No. Attractive women do not chase men that way because it is beneath them. They can get hot guys who will talk to them and flirt with them and buy them drinks. You got it right, only unattractive women throw themselves at men like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:21 AM
2

Women don’t want to see naked men. Exposing himself doesn’t turn women on. If a woman goes for it it’s because she already wants to have sex with him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:16 AM
1

I don't know. I don't think that's true at all. They probably don't really understand how sex obsessed men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:34 AM
2

Hmmm did you have a picture of yourself on your profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:19 AM
9

I seriously consider starting a school for men Please do! Too many men retreat into the manosphere and come up with pseudoscientific theories about women and why it's all women's fault instead of actually seeing their own flaws. I don't know if this will ever get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:10 AM
20

From what I've seen, it's heavily based on looks, including a pretty face and a small waist. Seriously having a slim waist line is probably the most important thing for a woman to have to attract a man. Once he's physically attracted to you, he'll see if you have a nice personality or not. By nice personality I mean someone kind, easy to talk to, not annoying or too insecure. Everything other than that is secondary. If he's someone high-powered and successful he might want to find a woman who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:43 AM
8

Because guys on Tinder want to score easy sex like they are alphas but a lot of them aren't that hot. I'm a woman on Tinder and most of the time I swipe left because there's no point in matching with any guy that isn't conventionally hot and my type. Sometimes I see guys who are looking for relationships but I feel like Tinder is best for meeting people with no expectations and just see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 10:18 PM
4

"Normie" refers to people who use popular social media and believes the popular opinion. Aka well adjusted people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 09:43 PM
1

Eh. There are still biological differences between men and women that make men more horny. That's what I was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 03:27 AM
2

That’s not rape. Not relevant to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:15 PM
2

You have no idea what you are talking about. Not a single clue. Imagine being subject to stalking, manipulation, pushiness, people ignoring your boundaries, just for existing in this world. Imagine people you’re not attracted to trying to talk to you and not leave you alone. Imagine these people are usually stronger than you and likely to be violent. Being raped isn’t romantic at all. You are insane to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:11 PM
2

So you want to throw tantrums over not being hot enough? Still immature
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:01 PM
1

A horny woman might have sex with a man who is more attractive than she is for free. Or she might even pay for him on a date. It does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:46 AM
1

If you think women only transact money for sex then you must be an unattractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:15 AM
3

They like to say that they need sex. I don’t agree that sex is a need and it’s certainly not something they’re entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:02 AM
7

Those are very cherry-picked conclusions you're drawing from your sources. Both state that women have a higher lifetime prevalence of DV and sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 02:52 AM
7

Yes we do. But. 1) We want it way less than men do. We have lower testosterone, which means we have lower sex drive. We also menstruate and PMS and don't usually feel horny during those times. 2) Our anatomy is different and we don't orgasm as easily. Men don't always take the time to make sure we get pleasure out of it. PiV sex on its own is just using a woman's vagina to jerk off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:31 AM
4

Playing oppression olympics is irrelevant to this discussion. Just because you think men have it worse doesn't mean women don't have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:11 AM
10

Women are raped and sexually assaulted MUCH more than men, which is what I'm worried about. Honestly you just sound clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:04 AM
9

What are you willing to put up with to get a woman who will fuck you regularly? Let me tell you something from a woman's perspective. Men are not worth putting up with because they constantly pester women for sex. Tone down your horniness if you want women to take you seriously. Also it sounds like your ex was just annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:02 AM
5

They shouldn't throw tantrums over it. It's just the way it is. Women are not gonna want to fuck them as much as they want to fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:47 AM
5

I don't have dating troubles. I'm more worried about being free from violence and sexual assault. You can start there when you try to understand women's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:19 AM
1

I don't know why men think women are evil shrews who trick them into long-term relationships where the passion dies down. Women don't want the same things as men and don't exist to please men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:13 PM
2

True. Self-defense is very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:47 PM
3

I think most wouldn’t resort to that but a lot of men would. But in that world murder should be legal too and women can kill their rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:44 PM
1

People look at your looks first. If you don’t meet her standards then you won’t even get to find out if she’s mentally healthy or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 05:43 PM
1

I was only referring to the dating pool in the US with my comment. It’s fine if you think someone like OP can do better but he’s gonna have to leave the country to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:51 PM
1

The OP said he is a 5. That means he is more attractive than 50% of the dating pool, not 70%. And he is trying to date women who are more attractive than 70% of the dating pool. That is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:40 PM
1

Men compete against other men. If he’s not more attractive than 70% of the dating pool that he is in, then he will not be able to get a woman who is more attractive than 70% of the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:09 PM
1

And my point is you need to adjust your standards based on the available pool of women. It doesn’t matter if you think a thin woman with a plain face is a 5 if she is objectively more attractive than 70% of the women available to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:59 PM
1

I’m not sure what you think you’re breaking to me. I acknowledge that the pool of US women is physically less attractive than the pool of women in some other countries. It doesn’t matter what the universal beauty standard is. Doesn’t change the fact that most women in the US are overweight or obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:43 PM
1

I agree that beauty standards are different by location. So in Japan for example a woman who is thin wouldn’t automatically be a 7 because most women there are thin. Someone from another country wouldn’t be desired in the US for other reasons through, like not knowing English well enough or not fitting in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:31 PM
1

No woman who is actually thin and has a nice figure is a 5. They are all at least a 7. Unless they are facially deformed or missing am arm. You are a 5, therefore your looksmatch is an average looking, chubby woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:33 PM
1

I have a theory. It’s because humans as a species are capable of orgasms, and orgasms are directly linked to reproduction in males. But in females the same penile tissue that men have doesn’t develop into a penis and it turns into something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:30 AM
1

I think we are biologically wired to pair bond with a partner in order to raise offspring together. But I don’t think it’s natural for that bond to last many decades because humans died relatively young when we were evolving. So modern marriages that are supposed to last “for life” will often fail. Also I don’t know how monogamous men are, really. Seems like they would have multiple wives and lots of children if they can afford to provide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:24 AM
1

I mean he’s doing stuff he likes that I don’t like. We both have to like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:06 AM
2

I don't have the libido to want sex every damn day. Too many other things to think about in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:47 PM
3

I don't like to be dominated. To me it just means the man is using me to get off and not trying to please me. I have encountered guys who try to get too rough or weird during sex and it's a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:17 PM
3

I wouldn’t put children through that. They are innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 12:46 AM
2

Wage garnishments are a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 12:45 AM
3

As opposed to what? You think people get away with disobeying the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:55 PM
6

No one is encouraging women to have kids they can’t afford with men who don’t want them. The current policy puts kids first, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:54 PM
5

Abortions are expensive and aren't easily accessible. Men in congress are still trying to take legal abortions away. But even if assuming that women can easily get abortions if they want one, I'm not sure encouraging women to kill their fetuses if they can't afford to raise kids is good policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:11 PM
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Pregnancy is a result of the actions of both man and woman. Not just a woman. So your anger should also be equally directed at the father of such a child who isn't taking responsibility for his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:05 PM
6

Divorce laws are based on income, not based on gender. If the men earned more then he would pay more when he gets a divorce. If the women earned more then she would pay more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:42 PM
1

But you are not in their shoes. You don't know how prostitutes would improve their lives if that was the only way they can get a woman to touch them or have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:40 PM
20

Right. Stop supporting children in single-parent homes because men need to get their dicks wet. How ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:38 PM
2

If you've been in relationships with women who were actually attracted to you, then you're not an incel and you don't suffer from what they suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:11 PM
5

A lot of ugly men also find women who are their looks match repulsive. It’s just the way it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:41 PM
5

No one needs that much sex to feel ok about themselves. You have unrealistically high expectations for dating and romance if you think you’re guaranteed a girlfriend who will bang you 3-7 times per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:37 PM
-1

Well then that’s what they have to make peace with. It is true that some men are so physically unattractive that women do not desire having sex with them. And they have to offer money. In the olden days these men could still get married because women needed a meal ticket but nowadays they’re shit outta luck. The sooner they realize the truth the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:36 PM
1

Why the f would a woman marry a guy who makes three times less than she does?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:24 PM
1

Men don’t actually mind financially supporting a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:15 PM
1

It wouldn’t just be nice if she cooked and cleaned for you. It would be an expectation of yours. Which is why I said your offer is like a live in maid. I don’t think you mean anything bad here but I’m pointing out that taking on the role of a domestic servant might not appeal to everyone if they have the choice to do something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:55 PM
2

$65k/year and buying a house in Massachusetts? How lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:49 AM
0

Any woman with at least average level of intelligence and average level of social/emotional intelligence can be a good house wife. It doesn't take any special talent. Actually, I'm gonna say women with slightly less than average IQ can be good housewives too, as long as they know how to please other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:25 AM
5

Yes I am a functioning adult. That’s why I pay my own bills and clean my own place. And I’m not going to be helpless if the husband is abusive and the marriage goes south and I need to depend on the courts to get money to live. And when I try to enter the work force having to do minimum wage jobs because that’s all I’m qualified for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:42 AM
1

Upvote for cringe worthy value
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:37 AM
0

You sound co-dependent on her tbh. You should be able to enjoy life without a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:24 AM
3

Tbh I wouldn’t even get married if I were you. You’re basically supporting an adult who chooses to be lazy and not support herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:34 PM
5

As a career oriented woman I would never become a stay at home wife or mom. The problem is I don’t really want a man who is a stay at home whatever either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:29 PM
6

You wonder why someone doesn’t want to take the offer of being your live in maid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:27 PM
3

To be fair, Chads don’t have the same desirability that women inherently have. Yes most women would find him attractive and be open to hooking up or dating him. But he still needs to pursue women and show that he isn’t jackass. At least if he wants to get women who are on his level of attractiveness. The only women who would chase him and pay for his meals are women who are less physically attractive than he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 10:15 PM
5

How about you just respect whomever you’re dating instead of second guessing why they’re doing what they’re doing? And if it doesn’t work for you then break up? All you care about is how she treats other guys better than you instead of actually caring about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:06 PM
1

It’s not just-world fallacy. It’s called not being a total pessimist who has given up. Obviously things can be unfair but as long as you fight there is a chance that you will win.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:48 AM
1

People who behave in decidedly non socially beneficial ways will get their comeuppance sooner or later, even if they do come out ahead for a period of time. As for the rest, will agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 07:38 PM
1

Most people try to be responsible. That’s what our society is based on. If you want to push a viewpoint that only benefits you then you will be rejected and outcast by others. That is the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:17 PM
1

We should all aspire to act in terms of what benefits the population. Justifying a position by saying well who gives a fuck about other people is not gonna get you very far. Other people also don’t give a fuck about you and what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:04 PM
2

I'm not a man. Also it's bold to assume you will share an orgasm. Men frequently have sex with women without them orgasming.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:19 PM
1

I think rather than saying sex, it’s more about physical affection and touching someone. If you just need to cum you can use a flesh light.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:08 AM
3

Women have always performed free reproductive and domestic labor for society. They are every bit a part of creating a nation as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:44 AM
1

It’s not prosperity that helps feminism succeed. It’s having a society that doesn’t turn on male narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 03:43 AM
4

It works well elsewhere We will agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:19 PM
1

I sort of agree with you. When girls are younger they don't have any success with guys yet and don't really know the value of their own sexuality. So they will crush on guys without knowing that they can get hotter guys if they are willing to put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:11 PM
5

WHY? Because we are worried about adults preying and taking advantage of teenagers. Teenagers are easier to manipulate than adults. Seems sensible to me to protect them in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:08 PM
8

Blow jobs are ok. Anal is a very small niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:33 AM
1

Do you really need a study to know what kind of body on a man is most attractive? I mean we all know what’s hot and what’s not instinctively. This feels like you want to call out women for trying to be nice or accommodating of men who don’t have perfect bodies. Men lie too to avoid hurting women. We all know you love slim attractive women but you will say a bigger girl is attractive because you might still want to sleep with her and you don’t want to turn her against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:36 PM
0

It’s about the children, not the women. Women just happen to be primary caregivers of children. I don’t think killing babies that no one can afford to raise is good policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:09 PM
2

It’s not really that easy though. There’s still a risk of being prosecuted for statutory rape.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/19 06:36 PM
1

Doesn’t that come with age restrictions though? Like the adult can’t be too much older than the minor.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/19 06:05 PM
1

Because they’ll meet more people and have more options. And they also grow up a bit more. I don’t know why you think high school is the be all end all. Some schools only have a few hundred kids.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/09/19 05:06 PM
2

High school is a limited social environment that doesn’t work for everyone. Some people just don’t have a good match in high school.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/09/19 02:40 PM
2

lol not everyone who doesn’t date in high school is ugly. And not everyone who does date in high school is attractive.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/09/19 02:07 PM
3

A lot of people don't date in high school. Legal age is 18 anyway so that hinders things.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/19 12:22 AM
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