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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8vuaq1/boys_are_trafficked_too_most_policy_discussions/?st=JJ7AOL2Q&sh=ba525d4e Hypocrisy
/r/MensRights04/07/18 03:46 PM
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So maybe in the newspaper they were reminding people that some women are homeless and they already knew that most Homeless were men? Just trying to dispel a common notion?
/r/MensRights04/07/18 02:16 AM
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Saw everyone call out a newspaper that said “1 fifth of homeless people are women”, saying that it was a funny way of saying that 80% of homeless people are men. Funny way of saying that 2/3 of trafficking involves girls. Can’t have it both ways
/r/MensRights03/07/18 09:30 PM
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You’re arguing with a point I did not make
/r/MensRights25/06/18 12:14 AM
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Lol who are you arguing with
/r/MensRights24/06/18 06:22 PM
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Yes? What does that have to do with what I said If men make up a huge cut of the military, it would have to make sense that the made up a huge chunk of the deaths...
/r/MensRights24/06/18 03:19 PM
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Dont men voluntarily join the military, and women are a tiny minority of the most “deadly” branches (army, marines)? This is only because most of the military is male? Also, yes, women do tend to choose lower paying jobs Aren’t the vast majority of male homicides victim to male assailants? Obviously we would like to bring these numbers down to zero, but how is this discrimination? Dont the industrial death stats roughly reflect the actual demographics of men/women working industrial jobs Don’t m…
/r/MensRights24/06/18 03:06 PM
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Dont men voluntarily join the military lol
/r/MensRights24/06/18 02:43 PM
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You’re right, I thought that minimum wage raises helped mom and pop stores because more people were able to purchase things with their increased income? Mom and pop stores are also suffering because they basically only offer convenience (which is even debatable). Most people work for blather companies nowadays so for every small physical business owner that is “hurt” (remember the money is basically recycled so will end up with them indirectly), many more basic workers will benefit.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 10:40 PM
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Increasing the minimum wage is good for most people (except business owners), no matter what the stated reason
/r/MensRights29/05/18 02:08 AM
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Source? That’s just not true man
/r/MensRights28/05/18 08:19 PM
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Nope. FGM has no health benefits and is detrimental to the health of the woman. There are other problems with it, but this is the most basic. The health of the subject is more important than the religious freedom, the same way a (theoretical) religion that involved murder would be illegal and not be a break of freedom of religion. Circumcision is actually beneficial to the health of the patient, so those that wish to practice it may. FGM is detrimental to the health of the patient, so “freedom o…
/r/MensRights28/05/18 04:55 PM
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The medical reasons are: Circumcision might have various health benefits, including: -Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. HOWEVER, boys with uncircumcised penises can be taught to wash regularly beneath the foreskin. -Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later. -Decreased risk of sexually…
/r/MensRights28/05/18 02:35 PM
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I would boycott the sewer. The had an ad for the sewer system with 11746 male workers and only 11745 female workers, as if women were somehow too good to get dirty (also the boss was a woman). Don’t use your toilet just get a bucket. Sounds crazy, but You get used to it
/r/MensRights27/05/18 10:04 PM
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You are part of the problem
/r/MensRights26/05/18 02:56 PM
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Guess we’ll find out soon enough
/r/MensRights26/05/18 12:15 PM
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Where did you get sexualized “talking” from? Your title is about dress and my comment was about dress.
/r/MensRights26/05/18 02:01 AM
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Let women wear what they want and let men wear what they want. You shouldn’t really be looking at people like that. It may not even be sexual by nature. When it gets hot, people wear less. Blaming women for “dressing provocatively” is like blaming a kid that left his bike outside for it getting stolen. Don’t victim blame.
/r/MensRights25/05/18 09:44 PM
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It’s a video game not a textbook. If there’s only female combatant in the game, and she’s a main character, how can a comparable number of deaths be female?
/r/MensRights24/05/18 12:04 PM
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You’re complaining that they put a girl in the game? What is your complaint here?
/r/MensRights24/05/18 01:00 AM
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BESIDES the fact that the two ideologies have nothing in common, comparing the them is a disgusting act of ignorance. Learn history. “As extreme as”?? Do you mean holding a belief with conviction? That’s like comparing Nazis and Christians because they both believe very strongly in their ideas. Or do you mean in ACTION? Where, no matter what you think that feminism does, genocide isn’t remotely similar. I know that you’re a logical person and you will be able to see that feminism and nazism cann…
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:27 PM
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Lol you don’t seem to understand that everything I said was backed up by fact except that. It’s basically what I expected though ahahahaha
/r/MensRights23/05/18 07:48 PM
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You’re right with your first point. I was making a claim that was substantiated only by what I’ve heard in the past. Ncadv.org found that 1 in 3 women and 1 in 7 men have been victims of severe physical violence in their lifetimes. His past conduct obviously was not exemplary enough to keep him in his job. I thought that the company didn’t release a public statement as well, so only he was able to say that his conduct was exemplary. Lack of information is not an excuse to jump to conclusions. Al…
/r/MensRights23/05/18 02:32 PM
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In the interview and the article I read about this guy they never talked about what those “jokes” were on his Facebook page. His past conduct at work was never mentioned, and a culmination of things could easily have been the reason for his dismissal. Easy to hear his side of the story and jump to a conclusion.
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:40 AM
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Waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait.......What??????!! Do you have a source that you can site or is this more MRA guessing
/r/MensRights23/05/18 11:07 AM
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Lol he didn’t say anything about women not doing it, the question was only about men.
/r/MensRights23/05/18 03:13 AM
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There are always exceptions to any rule. I didn’t say there were no female monarchs, just very few, and they only ruled because there were no sons. Elizabeth was a great leader and I definitely did not forget about her. You’ve given me a bunch of examples that seem to defy my rules, but you fail to acknowledge that they are tiny minorities of a much larger male majority. Also: Oprah is not powerful, she’s influential. This is a form of power in its own right, I suppose, but it’s not the discreti…
/r/MensRights22/05/18 03:05 PM
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It’s actually women who hold all the power, and always have. They dominate politics, making up most of congress, the senate, and the house. There has never been a male president. Most of the richest people on the planet are women. Most influential religious positions are held by women, and they dominate the creative scene, directing most movies and making most of our music. They control academia, having published most of the scientific work we hold fundamental today, and often steal work from ma…
/r/MensRights22/05/18 10:56 AM
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Based on this post, and the rules of logic, we can reasonably deduce that women are planning a mass extermination of men
/r/MensRights20/05/18 03:27 AM
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Hahaha annnnnnnd you disappear into your anti logic shell
/r/MensRights20/05/18 01:30 AM
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Lol so you’re saying that there is compulsory service?
/r/MensRights19/05/18 12:20 PM
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No I was talking about your first comment. You said I was uneducated for confusing selective service and the draft
/r/MensRights19/05/18 01:26 AM
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Ok. Can we agree that most people, male or female, do not want to enter the draft? I’m going to assume so in order to continue but you may disagree with me here. The irony here is that women were not allowed to join the military until very recently, and that war was something always left to the “menfolk”. The Supreme Court actually sided with congress’ ruling against allowing women into the draft, deciding: “The existence of the combat restrictions clearly indicates the basis for Congress' decis…
/r/MensRights19/05/18 12:58 AM
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Did you not sign up? Why wouldn’t you? Is it so impossibly difficult? How do you know women don’t want to enter the draft? Did you know that most American voters, including women, favor putting them in the draft? Did you know that conservative politicians tend to knock these acts down?
/r/MensRights19/05/18 12:44 AM
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Nope. You said that selective service and the draft were different things. Interesting. Know your terms please...
/r/MensRights19/05/18 12:39 AM
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I didn’t say men didn’t sign up for the draft. I said they aren’t drafted. Don’t complain about something that doesn’t affect you
/r/MensRights18/05/18 11:23 PM
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Your own speculation is not easily verifiable by me. It’s just speculation as to what the purpose of the image is
/r/MensRights18/05/18 11:21 PM
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Are you retarded? Selective service and being drafted are the same thing Selective service is service in the military under conscription, or the draft. Fancy words don’t disguise stupidity
/r/MensRights18/05/18 11:19 PM
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Have you read the article? It says literally nothing about women. Pretty easily verifiable. The source is above
/r/MensRights18/05/18 08:42 PM
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Your Logic is infallible.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 08:42 PM
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I’m not interested in convincing you. It’s a waste of time. It’s really easy for you to say “prove it” to every claim I make (of course you would be completely within your argumentative rights), but it’s not really something that I’m gonna lose sleep over if you don’t agree. So yeah, if you were someone of import, then I would bother giving you evidence I could say something obnoxious like “prove that claims have to be backed up in your personal circle”. It’s obnoxious hahahahaha
/r/MensRights18/05/18 08:40 PM
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The evidence is in the comments of people here. I could waste my time linking you a ton of comments, which you wouldn’t look at, or you could look for yourself :)
/r/MensRights18/05/18 04:39 PM
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I’m not talking about the entire movement here, but it’s definitely a trend with the whole movement to make weak or uninformed demands
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:50 PM
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Nearly everyone I’ve talked to in this sub references some sort of military service in terms of discrimination against males
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:26 PM
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Do your argument is based upon a hypothetical? Like men COULD be discriminated against so we’re making a movement?
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:25 PM
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I’ve registered, but nobody is being drafted!! It’s not that hard to register. Again, If we aren’t at war nobody is being drafted
/r/MensRights18/05/18 02:19 PM
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So I’ve read the article....it doesn’t talk about women at all? It might as well be saying “only” 1 in 4 homeless are women....you guys are idiots anyone can take a picture with no context and turn it into something
/r/MensRights18/05/18 11:36 AM
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I represent myself
/r/MensRights17/05/18 08:38 PM
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You
/r/MensRights17/05/18 03:57 PM
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Lmao wait wait wait wait............you’re asking..............if we should blame men for killing themselves.......??
/r/MensRights17/05/18 03:47 PM
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So women are to blame when they make less money, but it’s not men’s fault when they become homeless?
/r/MensRights17/05/18 03:02 PM
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Ad Hominem: a (fallacious) argument directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 01:50 PM
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I thought that men made better career choices to make more money, and women are to blame for making less money, so shouldn’t men also be to blame for their own increased homelessness?
/r/MensRights17/05/18 01:39 PM
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You have no idea what the picture is saying unless you’ve read the article. It’s also not saying that it’s ok for men to be homeless, just focusing on women. Would saying “3 out of four men are homeless” be equivalent to saying that it’s okay for women to be homeless? EDIT: downvote this all you want but I haven’t heard legitimate answers to my question... Funny how when you can’t win you downvote to hell
/r/MensRights17/05/18 01:29 PM
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You didn’t give any context...the article could easily be talking about how most men are homeless
/r/MensRights17/05/18 12:09 PM
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Yikes.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 10:35 AM
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What? Neither men nor women have the RIGHT to reproduce sexually. Because you can’t make someone have sex with you. To put it bluntly. It’s pretty simple.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 02:07 AM
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Nobody has a right to have kids via sexual reproduction. This post almost seems to insinuate that they are entitled to have children with a female. One can always adopt also. Maybe women only go after those “desirable” guys! But there’s one big fat question you’re missing: So What?? It’s their right!
/r/MensRights15/05/18 01:05 AM
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False rape accusations would actually be a problem if the weren’t exceedingly rare
/r/MensRights14/05/18 10:44 AM
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That’s perfectly within their right. Saying that this is discrimination is like saying all boys or all girls schools are discrimination
/r/MensRights14/05/18 12:09 AM
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True, but not all men are black men. Don’t confuse the problems that black men face with those that other men face, especially white men. This is one of those problems.
/r/MensRights13/05/18 03:44 PM
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Don’t confuse the issues of BLACK men with the issues of ALL men. Black men face racism and discrimination in a way that white men will never experience. This is a racism issue. I’m definitely not saying that this sub shouldn’t focus on black men, maybe saying it should ONLY focus on black men/men of color Also, race is a very American issue. I don’t blame you for not understanding it in the American sense because America has a very distinct race problem in a way some nations do not. I’m speakin…
/r/MensRights13/05/18 03:34 PM
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Firstly, that’s a man choking him. Secondly, the kid is black. It’s not a problem of all men being discriminated against, but BLACK men being discriminated against
/r/MensRights12/05/18 10:26 PM
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If I don’t clarify that I’m male I get all these bone headed comments about being an evil feminist blah blah blah These also aren’t arguments that I am trying to have. I was just listing the problems with what would be a pretty good sub. Men definitely get screwed sometimes
/r/MensRights11/05/18 10:42 AM
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I wasn’t trying to argue this stuff, just trying to tell people like myself what happens in this sub
/r/MensRights10/05/18 08:46 PM
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I was saying why I’m not gonna bother fool😂
/r/MensRights10/05/18 04:40 PM
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You said that I was indoctrinated. Which is an attack on me. Which is ad hominem. Maybe you are the one that needs to learn some definitions. Evidence that age isn’t wisdom
/r/MensRights10/05/18 11:04 AM
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The funny thing is, no matter how compelling of an argument I make, you’ll never believe me. And I’m not beat up over this. But I’m giving you alternatives to the monologue that you have chosen to dip your head into
/r/MensRights10/05/18 11:03 AM
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I’m not gonna argue about it because that would be like opening the holocaust or slavery up to debate. By opening these topics to debate, you demonstrate a terrible lack of knowledge
/r/MensRights10/05/18 10:48 AM
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Before a certain point, women couldn’t vote, so they really weren’t the ones putting men in power. Now, there are fewer women candidates, although, admittedly, these midterms ha a ton of women.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 10:45 AM
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You aren’t the rule, you’re the exception Now read the articles about the MRM. I especially like those of the Atlantic. You’ll see what the intellectual world thinks of this nonsensical pandering
/r/MensRights10/05/18 10:43 AM
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Open a textbook. Women were denied responsibility! It wasn’t a trade off that women made, rights for responsibility. Also: those with power have also been men. Men were always favored in monarchial succession and nearly every Nation-state before 1900 was ruled by a man. There were women in the nobility, yes, that had better situations than men in the lower class, but it’s the wrong point of comparison. You must compare men and women of equal class. also here’s a recent post that showed serious I…
/r/MensRights10/05/18 10:40 AM
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That’s ad hominem, so my point still stands. Prove me wrong. Feminism is also not a twisted ideology, but enough time in this sub might make you think that
/r/MensRights10/05/18 10:36 AM
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I don’t need context when I’m talking about every context. Give me a random culture or nation and I’ll show you discrimination? And women came to be socially inferior as male hunter gatherers could find food and women often were bearing children. Which is now outdated
/r/MensRights10/05/18 10:35 AM
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Lol completely not what I said
/r/MensRights10/05/18 10:31 AM
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I’m not the indoctrinated one by a long shot...I’m here aren’t I? You’ve given a bunch of examples to effectively refute a point that I didn’t make. Let me explain: men have been the ruling class (this is changing now). Anything that favored women was only in place because men wanted it to be in place
/r/MensRights10/05/18 04:28 AM
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Your last comment, about the nice guys that lose out to selfish men, is the exact Incel mentality that sent that dude running people over and that other guy going on a killing spree (no names because I don’t believe in notoriety). So no, it’s not meant to be an insult, because I don’t (or at least hope) that you aren’t going to commit mass homicide. I’m just pointing out that you, intentionally or not, have aligned yourself with the Incel movement that did those things. I’m also not saying you c…
/r/MensRights10/05/18 02:54 AM
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This is where MRM borders Incel
/r/MensRights10/05/18 02:31 AM
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It wasn’t meant to prove or disprove anything it’s a troll Where are these stats from, and what happens to the other 89% of accusations
/r/MensRights09/05/18 11:31 PM
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I don’t want to mess with you, just expose the logical discrepancies in all of your reasoning, as well as give you a different point of view. Men do get discriminated against and I’m definitely behind equality, but the level of ignorance in this movement makes it completely not viable, so sorry.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 09:25 PM
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On the other post you told me that she was bigger than you, but now you say that you are a “tattooed and burly guy”. Maybe she’s just a bodybuilder or something This story is so incredibly dramatic that any healthy sense of skepticism would lead one to question everything you’ve said
/r/MensRights09/05/18 03:38 PM
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BLM isn’t hate at all you know nothing about BLM killallmen would be hate if it were serious! Obviously they don’t mean to kill all men! It’s basically a massive feminist troll of woman-paranoid MRAs Antifa is a movement AGAINST hate. I don’t advocate violence against anyone so I don’t condone its methodology, but their motives are pure.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 03:28 PM
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Yes
/r/MensRights09/05/18 11:30 AM
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For the same reasons that you can’t “defend yourself” against cripples, the mentally ill, children, or the elderly, you pretty much can’t “defend yourself” against women. Men are just built differently. They’re bigger. You hurt yourself by even touching her, because at that point it became a fight and not an assault.
/r/MensRights08/05/18 06:06 PM
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I think that you do not understand privilege theory. It does not have to do with individual condition, but more with group condition...blacks did not have the chance to accumulate capital because of slavery, Jin crow, and other weapons of systemic racism. On the other hand, whites had no such barriers in place. Based on statistics, the best way to do well in life is to have parents that have money. Black Americans, and many other racial minorities, were denied that opportunity for many years, an…
/r/MensRights08/05/18 12:25 AM
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My point exactly
/r/MensRights08/05/18 12:15 AM
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Yikes.
/r/MensRights07/05/18 10:08 PM
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That’s the wrong attitude to have. We didn’t question whether whites were discriminated against (which is debate-able, but not the point of the post). The point of the post is to point out blatant and seemingly popular ignorance that will destroy the MRM. Blacks face more discrimination that whites! Period! It’s not even comparable. As much as the MRM doesn’t need a “racial divide,” it needs blatant racism and ignorance even less...
/r/MensRights07/05/18 09:33 PM
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Now that’s just blatant racism hahahahahaha
/r/MensRights07/05/18 09:21 PM
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I have experienced the same!
/r/MensRights07/05/18 07:22 PM
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They want to bring a wide range of perspectives to readers! Shouldn’t get only a monologue!
/r/MensRights07/05/18 06:00 PM
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Lmao what??? Funny how people act when they can’t beat you logically
/r/MensRights07/05/18 12:08 AM
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The “no true Scotsman” fallacy isn’t applicable here because a “feminist” isn’t defined by place of birth, self denomination. Feminism is an ideology, and we CAN define certain actions as feminist or not. You’ve used this incorrectly. There’s a lot of anti-feminist “straw man” out there; all sorts of outrageous examples of seemingly anti-male behavior get a “feminist” sticker slapped on, and anti feminist propaganda has become so pervasive that movements such as the MRM have come to exist. Which…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 07:08 PM
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There are tons of instances of women being discriminated against! (If you’re going to try to ask me, maybe do some research of your own first?) The BIG things like voting were achieved in the last century, but by no measure does that mean that everything is ok now! Could you also show me comments that were resulted in bans from feminist forums?
/r/MensRights06/05/18 04:38 AM
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The actual definition of “feminism” is just equality for women. So anybody that tells you that feminism is about bringing men down is dead wrong. Men’s rights and women’s rights are totally compatible. There are certainly people that might (wrongly) identify with feminism and be out to hurt men, but a lot of bad info out there that would make one believe that feminism is a totally anti male movement that hates all men. Also, IMO, you can be for men’s rights, but what really made me lose faith in…
/r/MensRights06/05/18 01:23 AM
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She’s racist. I could go on about both of them. But she tries to hide it. You’re the one that asked for sources...had I not given any you would have attacked me then. I guess the only way you can know things in the past is by being there? Because you can’t trust any sources. Also, the New York Times is one of the most highly reputable and well known newspapers in the world.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 04:42 PM
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ny times article I guess the real citation would be trump saying it but idk He’s also defended white supremacist and racists or been slow to denounce them and their support for him. This stuff isn’t hard to find.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 04:08 PM
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He called black people lazy. His real estate company also tried to avoid renting to blacks in the 70s. He also said that 15,000 Haitian immigrants “all had AIDS” and that Nigerian immigrants would never go back to their “huts” once they saw the United States. Would you like more?
/r/MensRights04/05/18 03:54 PM
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Funny how you knew who I was talking about. Have you really listened to anything that he’s said since 2016? I think that you are the difficult one to take seriously.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 03:22 PM
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A racist, misogynist liar VS A slimy, two-faced liar Worst ELECTION in recent history
/r/MensRights04/05/18 02:22 PM
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I don’t hate me
/r/MensRights03/05/18 12:08 PM
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Lol no it doesn’t. There are only physical differences between boys and girls, but their gender plays no natural part in deciding their interests. Society does that. This isn’t new information either, so I’m not sure why you are claiming to knows anything about biology but denying this idea. read
/r/MensRights03/05/18 10:50 AM
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Gender roles are a social construct. In reality there are no limits to what boys and girls can be respectively interested in, and those things aren’t naturally different. read this
/r/MensRights03/05/18 10:37 AM
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The premise of integrating is to show that there should be no outlined difference between male and female interests, because biology doesn’t support that. Edit: don’t have the facts and think I’m wrong? read this
/r/MensRights03/05/18 03:03 AM
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The problem was that Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts weren’t just sex-separated, but the entire system was different, indicating bias and gender stereotyping. Also, how can you quote a video where the speaker bashed gay troop leaders?
/r/MensRights03/05/18 02:34 AM
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So what’s the point in posting then ? It does kind of look like a legitimization of rape, despite what you’ve said. I can’t think of many other reasons
/r/MensRights02/05/18 11:46 AM
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What is the point in posting this? Post makes all of you look bad
/r/MensRights02/05/18 11:16 AM
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That’s a terrible example. You also haven’t examined the fact that black people are more likely to be poor, white People rich, and those with less tip less. Same with dine and dash-crime is committed by poor people. You would have to charge all POOR people more to compensate. It’s a pretty simple concept, so I’m not sure why you don’t understand. Men are charged more only because they are more likely to drive aggressively. If it were women, or blacks, or whatever other group, then they would get…
/r/MensRights02/05/18 12:44 AM
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Did you read any of what I said?
/r/MensRights01/05/18 10:23 PM
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That’s a universal rule, which I said is bad
/r/MensRights01/05/18 03:49 PM
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I’ll just summarize what I thought. I thinking we’re definitely getting tripped up on definitions. I think that it’s less about being male, and more about the actual driving statistics. If it were females that were more reckless, or blacks, whites, etc, it would be they that paid higher rates. And I don’t think that this would be discrimination, because “safe driving” has to be some kind of merit on its own. Again, women aren’t paid less because they are women, but for the “merit” of driving saf…
/r/MensRights01/05/18 03:21 PM
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I’m not going from individual to group, I’m going from group to individual. If 99 boys of 100 have red hair, I can assume that a randomly selected boy will have red hair. If, say 95 of 100 men drive aggressively, i can assume that a randomly selected man will be an aggressive driver and charge the group a higher rate for insurance. Those are just example numbers. The group/Individual argument is a bit confusing. Please excuse me if I have not directly addressed your points, or if it seems I’m us…
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:59 PM
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Ah. I see. I thought I filled you in on something else. Students with better grades are given lower rates because they are more likely to drive responsibly. It’s not that they’re being rewarded for better grades, rather, as a group, they have better judgement. Are you saying that students with bad grades are therefore discriminated against?
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:44 PM
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That is individual performance though! You’re missing the point. If they were charged solely because of being men, then it’s discrimination. But they aren’t. It’s because they will get into more accidents and drive more aggressively on average. With students that have good grades, they may not all be safer drivers. Men may not all be more dangerous drivers. But looking at the group, it has nothing to do with being male. It has to do with their habits and tendencies.
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:37 PM
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No because it’s not because they are black, it’s because they get into disproportionate numbers of accidents. If it were only because they were black then that would definitely be racist
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:32 PM
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So the merit for women is: as a group you are safer drivers than men, so we charge you less. The “merit” for men is that they drive more dangerously. I also said that the women turned a lower profit, that was my main point. And paying women less in sports isn’t discrimination, never said it was.
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:29 PM
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It’s an economic decision. The same way paying women less in sports is an economic decision.
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:24 PM
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Certainly. If it were a substantial amount, then yes.
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:23 PM
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Then it’s the same reason women are payed less in sports. It’s not a discriminatory practice, just based on economics. For example, even though the women’s US soccer team is a top women’s team and always does well, they are paid less because women’s soccer turns less of a profit. But the men, who have a pretty bad men’s team, are paid more because more people watch men’s soccer
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:21 PM
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Women pay less for the aforementioned reasons. High school students with better grades pay less because they are more responsible. Some insurance groups offer lower rates for veterans. Are they discriminating against non-veterans?
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:09 PM
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Each instance of one sex paying more is different. There are no reasonable blanket rules. There have been specific instances where women paying more is discrimination (have there?), but it isn’t a universal rule. Just debunking “discrimination” in this instance. Car insurance is also offered at a lower rate to high school students with better grades, because they are more likely to drive responsibly. I suppose that this is also discrimination against those with bad grades?
/r/MensRights01/05/18 02:07 PM
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You have to account for equal financial situation. Obviously a high class woman would have a better situation than a low class man, but with a man and a woman in the same class, the man has always been ahead
/r/MensRights01/05/18 01:52 PM
2

The dudes repping incel and killing a ton of people are white guys broski
/r/MensRights01/05/18 01:42 PM
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Yes. It had nothing to do with “demonizing” masculinity. It is only referring to constructive male gender roles. my take on toxic masculinity
/r/MensRights01/05/18 01:27 PM
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Thought waking up after drunk sex and regretting it wasn’t rape on their part
/r/MensRights01/05/18 01:02 PM
1

The post was more to say what I didn’t think it encompasses. The Wikipedia definition is “Toxic masculinity is defined by adherence to traditional male gender roles that restrict the kinds of emotions allowable for boys and men to express, including social expectations that men seek to be dominant (the "alpha male") and limit their emotional range primarily to expressions of anger” I think it’s kind of a stupid term and doesn’t show that the main perpetrators of “toxic masculinity” are its bigge…
/r/MensRights29/04/18 02:15 PM
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You completely ignored my second analogy which had a plural. I’m only showing, through use of grammar, that “toxic masculinity” doesn’t imply that all masculinity is toxic.
/r/MensRights29/04/18 02:11 PM
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I included a second analogy with a plural to minimize confusion: Talking about “Asian women” doesn’t imply that all women are Asian.
/r/MensRights28/04/18 10:16 PM
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It doesn’t imply anything. Back to the house analogy: Does “blue house” imply that all houses are blue? Does it even imply that any other house on the planet is blue?
/r/MensRights28/04/18 10:01 PM
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I agree that toxic behavior has no gender. I also think that there are certain “toxic behaviors” that are exhibited more often by members of different sexes. The term “toxic masculinity” is only in reference to those behaviors exhibited by males. I don’t think that there has to be a “toxic femininity” term to make “toxic masculinity” relevant.
/r/MensRights28/04/18 08:20 PM
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You missed my point. I was saying that masculinity ISNT defined by toxicity.
/r/MensRights28/04/18 08:15 PM
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The article didn’t blame MRAs for anything. It only said that his philosophy was born from and is a mutation of yours. It only briefly mentioned MRAs and talked mostly about incels
/r/MensRights27/04/18 06:43 PM
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Does the MRM not blame feminism for a lot of their “lost rights”
/r/MensRights27/04/18 05:51 PM
1

Ad hominem encompasses any attack on my credibility. The questions that address my life experiences count as attacks on my credibility. The example of ad hominem that you gave to me is a more crude version. You also make a fatal error in assuming that experience, or lack thereof, has any bearing on knowledge of a topic. The same way an ornithologist can know every facet of a bird’s life without being one, and an anthropologist can know how Homo sapiens lived without living within a hundred thous…
/r/MensRights26/04/18 03:01 PM
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I am 11, therefore no marital experience or children of my own. But It doesn’t matter my life experience because that doesn’t make me right or wrong. Hitler the classic “bad guy reference”, but if he says that 2+2=4, he is not wrong. What you have tried to use against me is called ad hominem, and is looked down upon in the academic world.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 11:44 PM
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Sorry for the spelling errors, they’re easy to miss on my phone. I’ll be more attentive. My point is that women aren’t paid less for the same work in most cases, but are instead not given the opportunity to work certain jobs as frequently as men. Also, what evidence do you have to show that men or women have to work shitty jobs to get paid more?
/r/MensRights25/04/18 03:20 PM
1

Lol you shouldn’t tell me what I think lest you are wrong. Circumcision substantially decreases the risk of urinary tract infection, as well as making the penis easier to clean. Doctors almost universally recommend circumcision. It’s no less “mutilation” than removing tonsils or a decayed tooth, or the appendix. I directly addressed your argument on alimony. As for child custody, I have repeatedly said that favoring women in child custody is the result of strict gender roles. These gender roles …
/r/MensRights25/04/18 02:57 PM
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Hey man that’s just the article that you’ve provided. Are you implying that the Washington Post profits off of discrimination? Also, the wage gap doesn’t reflect the actual pay of women vs men. A woman replacing you at your job would be payed the same. It’s a reflection of the fewer promotions and actually job opportunities that women are offered. It’s a pretty common misconception of the wage gap. Women are also given positions that pay less. But they are not, in most cases, actually payed less…
/r/MensRights25/04/18 01:51 PM
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In the Washington Post article that you have provided, it highlights, and I quote, that they: “do not want to suggest there is no pay gap; in fact, just about every example above reported that there was some sort of gap in wages. A report by the American Association of University Women found that, after accounting for a variety of factors, including college major and occupation, there was an unexplained 7 percent gap one year after graduation. The gap then grew to 12 percent after 10 years” Take…
/r/MensRights25/04/18 01:06 PM
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Just gonna start with the last part: circumcision is a religious act for some, but the reason circumcision so widely practiced is because it reduces the chance of infection. You also use a lot of ad hominem and flippant rhetorical questions. Which aren’t effective argumentative strategies. I could be a newborn baby, and that doesn’t necessarily make me wrong. Attack my argument and not my credibility. If I say I’m for all rights, then I’m for all rights. I’m not putting women on a pedestal. Alth…
/r/MensRights25/04/18 11:25 AM
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Women entered the workforce en masse because they were finally given the opportunity to. Men that would have been given the jobs over them were at war. How long do you believe there was between full male enfranchisement and full female enfranchisement (hint, women still don't need to register for the draft in the USA but men do)? ^ Not sure what you’re asking can you rephrase
/r/MensRights25/04/18 11:04 AM
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Looking at percentages doesn’t give you an accurate representation. women’s employment increased during the Second World War from about 5.1 million in 1939 (26%) to just over 7.25 million in 1943 (36% of all women of working age).
/r/MensRights25/04/18 11:01 AM
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Do you realize that if you have a queen, you have a monarchy, and establishes voting in a monarchy All colleges should have been open to both sexes. You shouldn’t have had to be rich to get an education because you needed it least. The “female colleges” weren’t as good as the “male colleges”. Males aren’t more interested in math and science, and women aren’t more interested in literature/arts. Neurology has debunked this. That is a rather uninformed idea that reflects your lack of understanding …
/r/MensRights25/04/18 10:49 AM
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Do you have any statistics to back this up? Or a source? Or is this just speculation?
/r/MensRights25/04/18 10:47 AM
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The definition of oppression: prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control Or the state of being subject to unjust treatment or control Exactly in line with what I was saying. Simple google search. I asked the question because I had seen so many people saying that women have never been discriminated against, or women are not discriminated against. So by proving that women were at one point discriminated against, we can work our way toward and find out when it ended. If you agreed with me, some…
/r/MensRights24/04/18 11:32 AM
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I’m not sure you know what straw man is. I’m replying directly to each of your points. Whether you are drafted has every bearing!! Its the difference between going to war and not! During wwii, about 20% of those registered were drafted. That means 80% were never forced to go to war. Also, only 25% of the military then were draftees. The rest volunteered. Women were never given the option to volunteer. Women were not allowed to join the military. It would then be clearly discriminatory to say tha…
/r/MensRights24/04/18 11:23 AM
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According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in 2017 men earned a median average of $49,192 while women earned only $39,988, or 81.3 percent of what males earned. source
/r/MensRights24/04/18 02:54 AM
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So are you saying that a wage gap does not exist?
/r/MensRights24/04/18 02:42 AM
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I’m on a phone so I don’t think I can. Also, apologies for using rhetorical questions as argumentative strategy because I really dislike when people do that and I don’t think that they have any worth. When I say oppression just think of discrimination or unfair treatment, however small. There are plenty of reasons that may have been conjured up to excuse the denial of the right of women to vote. If voting were some terrible thing that men have to endure but spare women from, we wouldn’t have bro…
/r/MensRights24/04/18 02:41 AM
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Very charged. But oppression doesn’t have to be extreme. When I say oppressed, I think that a lot of people think of slavery and violations of human rights. Maybe they are discriminated against or unfairly treated. Which is not to say that men also aren’t!!
/r/MensRights24/04/18 02:28 AM
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Thanks man haha So you’re saying that after 1839, women were equal to or better than men in the eyes of the law/society? I think that women are still opressed/discriminated against today, even though the tide is really turning and things are looking pretty good. When I say “oppressed” I think many people think about extreme oppression, which obviously doesn’t exist against women. But I do think that they are discriminated against. It’s really minute but systematic stuff. Also, by saying that the…
/r/MensRights24/04/18 02:26 AM
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Ok! So now that we have established that women WERE at one point oppressed, let’s figure out when it stopped! :)
/r/MensRights23/04/18 10:14 PM
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Certainly not using straw man. Back to 1. You can sign up for the draft and not be drafted! Women face such blatant discrimination under sharia law that it is difficult to take you seriously. Women were denied access to many universities.
/r/MensRights23/04/18 06:44 PM
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Lol
/r/MensRights23/04/18 11:47 AM
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I’m not sure how to have your comment and then reply to it, so I’ll go in order. I would definitely agree that women never faced the same discrimination as blacks. 100% (unless you were a black woman). Just used it as a contrast point. If black men went from slavery to voting faster than women could get it, what does that say about women? I’m also not denying that things sucked for men. Looking back upon history, I’m simply saying that men got preferential treatment in ALMOST every category (rai…
/r/MensRights23/04/18 11:45 AM
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This kind of goes hand in hand with another question ( assuming that you think women were but no longer are discriminated against) When did discrimination against women stop and what signaled this stop?
/r/MensRights23/04/18 11:30 AM
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I agree. If the MRM consists mainly of those whose arguments have no basis in history, it will fail miserably.
/r/MensRights23/04/18 11:25 AM
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Your first point (you can’t just void my argument by predicting it haha but nice try): In no way does declaring that women were oppressed ever insinuate that they were the only ones to undergo this!!? The United States has a pretty reliable trend of discriminating against everyone in some way. If I were to say that women were the only oppressed group, I would be as foolish as you make me out to be. Secondly: How does asking people to acknowledge that women were discriminated against equate to di…
/r/MensRights23/04/18 11:23 AM
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So let me spell out the dialogue for each of these circumstances lol... 1. “We’re not letting you vote because we also don’t let you into the military” (keep in mind that there were plenty of voting men who had never served) 2. Google “sharia law” “You can’t educated yourself (knowledge is power!), we won’t let you get a job, so you don’t have to worry about working”...don’t complain about supporting women if you close off the best way for them to support themselves! The pay gap doesn’t really m…
/r/MensRights23/04/18 11:11 AM
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But didn’t women want to work? Didn’t they jump on top of work opportunities during WWII and then lose those jobs to men returning to war? Women also were not given the choice of not having to be drafted In exchange for voting rights. What do you think would happen if a woman wanted to join the military? When you say that women were “given” the right to vote, you disregard the fact that they didn’t have it until nearly 150 years after the constitution was created.
/r/MensRights23/04/18 11:03 AM
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My mistake about “meninism”. I know this is kind of a cliche argument, but how do you explain the lack of female presidents? Or gaps in overall financial standing? Not arguing these points just seeing what you think.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 05:15 PM
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