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Intrasex I believe
/r/MensRights10/01/18 10:11 AM
1

Wealthy straight white men are the only not "protected" class. There's provisions for the poor and provisions for the LGTBI community don't forget.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 06:22 AM
-3

Wow I didn't realise men's rights had been taken over by the far right. We've got rampant racism in here now. I guess it's no longer about equal treatment in family court and more about "Saving the wealthy straight white men from the nasty liberals".
/r/MensRights10/01/18 06:20 AM
9

This is the fundamental challenge to men's rights, this is where the grass roots change needs to happen. It's hard to keep fighting parents on terms with children but much more effort must be made by our legal system at some point to keep children within easy reach of both their parents. All separations should start with an assumption of 50/50 custody. And there should have to be a huge reason not to. Peace brother I feel your loss.
/r/MensRights10/12/17 08:31 AM
1

This post.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 05:58 AM
-6

Can't have a war if you don't have an enemy!
/r/MensRights04/12/17 03:59 AM
1

The MRAs like me that don't have a problem with actual feminism (not the strawman bullshit published here) don't subscribe to this subreddit anymore, It started out ok back in the day. Now it's basically collected together incels, redpillers and puas. Everything wrong in the world is women's fault and if not women the feminists. I'll get downvoted to hell but hey, just the facts.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 03:50 AM
1

Perhaps the hollow strawman misogyny upset some folk.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 03:41 AM
0

Men's rights in a nutshell.
/r/MensRights22/07/17 06:12 AM
1

because society hammers it into men's heads codswollop, Fuck society if you can't be honest with your partner, you're a shit communicator or your relationship is bunk.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 11:28 AM
1

You got downvoted for this. A fucking damning indictment of the immaturity and intellectual wasteland that epitomises /r/MensRights
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:57 AM
1

He's a fucking poet, a philosopher a god damn intellectual god.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:55 AM
2

just walk away from it. you sound like someone who's never felt threatened online.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:53 AM
2

yeah yeah, take your common sense elsewhere man.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:52 AM
1

you got played so hard.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:52 AM
1

I'd do you. PM me your nipples.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:38 AM
1

Lets be honest here, the male version of this site is full of upskirts and the people photographed have reason to actually be afraid.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:33 AM
2

If it makes you feel any better, you'll more than make up the difference in health and income protection insurance. roll on downvotes.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:29 AM
6

In that story both partners handled it badly. They both sound immature and like extremely poor communicators. The top comment in 2xc is on point and to be commended.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:10 AM
14

In that story both partners handled it badly. They both sound immature and like extremely poor communicators. The top comment in 2xc is on point and to be commended.
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:10 AM
4

This post is messy with it.
/r/PussyPass17/04/17 10:41 PM
1

Ew gross no. Now we see this is the kind of shit that undermines the whole MRA movement. The infantalising of all women does us no credit.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 08:55 AM
2

All the humans were killed, the property was redistributed. Not a great outcome for anyone in the village.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 01:33 AM
-43

She never said that, she said no multiple times then froze in fear while he raped her. Stop pretending you know what she thinks.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 07:54 AM
8

The red pill be strong in this thread
/r/MensRights05/02/16 09:49 PM
1

Agreed, and the seriousness, deaths for example.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 06:31 AM
1

So you got a link to the original? archive.is links don't work for me.
/r/MensRights21/12/15 03:48 AM
-3

There's not going to be 100% correlation on those two stats, that's an unreasonable expectation. If men are 9 in 10 times as likely to kill you you're going to give them less leeway, that's going to result in higher deaths of male suspects, the actual amount of extra deaths depends on many other factors. It also goes to the initial question, men are less affected by victimisation by women because of the severity of it, there's 90% less chance they have to fear for their lives.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 08:52 PM
0

This is disingenuous, the reason males get shot by police is because males are more likely to be violent and police are less likely to take chances with them. They also put themselves in situations where they are in confrontations with police way more. It's like saying why do criminals get arrested more? Go over to guns are cool and count the female perpetrators vs male. It's enormously weighted towards men. This will be an unpopular opinion here I'm sure, so dv away.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 08:17 PM
1

MRA can be painted with the same "toxic hate ideology" brush if you selectively read even the comments on this post like we selectively read feminist posts.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 01:58 PM
1

You're a great MRA I will take your comments to represent MRAs the same way MRAs take extremist freak feminists to represent all feminists. You go boy. You "be you".
/r/MensRights22/10/15 01:50 PM
1

Well I'd control your stupid body if I could. But laws don't work that way, they control women's bodies. Put on a burkah and chop your glans off!
/r/MensRights22/10/15 01:38 PM
1

Only Dude Bros, can't you read.
/r/MensRights11/09/15 06:44 AM
2

Being a shortarse I now get a lot more respect now I'm bald. I don't get pushed around or talked over anywhere near as much.
/r/MensRights06/09/15 01:34 AM
1

But that's the claim. And it may be true, I'm pointing out that it might be the tip of the iceberg. My wage isn't even comparable to hers now, I'm on a whole different level. I believe in Australia the claim is 93c not 78c now anyhow. But it doesn't matter as long as I know there is inequality there, which there is, I want it removed.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 09:04 PM
1

You asked for an instance, not evidence, you want me to post our payslips, length of service, age, qualifications (which I forgot to mention, she has a degree, I have high school)? I'm not the only man at my work that sees clear evidence of, or has been the beneficiary of similar practices in our company in some departments. It mainly happens with older male senior managers. Perhaps as the boomers retire the gen-x senior managers will be more aware. There's problems like having "old school" Cath…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 12:48 PM
1

And you're allowed to live in your bubble.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 01:35 AM
2

Honesty here, which is going to be rare for obvious reasons. Over 7 years I was paid more, then promoted over a staff member who was more productive, reliable and worked longer hours than me in the same role. She is a minority mother. I am a white male. Now she is my employee, since being promoted I have done everything to get her promoted to an equivalent pay and responsibility level but it's an up hill battle with some success so far but not enough. I constantly see it in meetings and always h…
/r/MensRights02/09/15 01:19 AM
0

It's as true of feminists as what I posted is true of MRAs. The oustspoken fringe on both sides unfortunately gets to define how the movement is perceived from outside. It's as easy to find misogyny in /r/MensRights as it is to find misandry in /r/Feminism.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 01:03 AM
0

No just exactly not like that. Exactly the same as "All MRA's say women are the devil incarnate. False rape alegers, family destroying whores all of them. They're a hate movement". For gods sake men get a grip.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 12:50 AM
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All of them do, the male ones especially. /s You're playing the same stupid game. Hyperbole, exaggeration, whitewashing, etc.
/r/MensRights01/09/15 11:36 AM
2

Oh you and you nuance, get oudda here
/r/MensRights18/08/15 07:34 AM
2

Only sluts use birth control /s
/r/MensRights18/08/15 07:31 AM
2

The problem with this argument is that an amount to raise happy functioning kids with every opportunity in life is out of reach of all but the top 1% of earners so it must be partly related to the ability to pay. Otherwise we condemn every one parent family to absolute minimum support. Now if to you're asking for an intelligent cap to child support Australia has one. It caps out at 150k income for the payee (actual amount paid depends on custodial parents income, days in custody and number of ch…
/r/MensRights16/08/15 06:37 AM
8

The sister was young and attention seeking, the mother made a mistake, the son had fuck all idea. There was little negative real life impact to his life until he heard the story. He should forget about it, move on with his life and take the money if he needs/wants it.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 12:40 AM
0

I wouldn't waste any more time explaining why you don't want to send your good friend to goal to these guys. They've missed the point completely.
/r/MensRights11/07/15 12:24 PM
6

Well I guess with a regard for a woman you had Sex with as "just some bar skank" it reflects on the quality of your deeply misogynist character. A few downvoters might be expected.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 09:51 PM
2

Today it typically takes about 15 years and costs up to $800 million to convert a promising new compound into a drug on the market. And it's taking longer and costing more each year. Add to this that there are so many potential drugs that would be more profitable. With a buy in like that it could take decades for the market to solve this one. It already has.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 11:55 PM
4

If you can't make a massively profitable women's one by tweaking the hormone levels of an existing formula for less cost than starting from scratch. Then yes. Honestly the market doesn't optimally solve all problems. Now I feel bad for sounding like a conspiracy theorist. But fuck I've been needing this for decades and willing to pay through the nose for it. I am an unsatisfied market and refuse to believe I am the only one.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 08:26 PM
2

Nah, the Indians have been successfully testing a once off reversible system for 10 to 15 years. I was excited about it when the articles came up on reddit in 2007.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 06:56 PM
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As long as it doesn't replace the more expensive women's version. Anyone who's had a few long term relationships knows the havoc played on women's bodies by various hormonal contraception choices. If a cheap men's option comes along (especially a once off cheap reversible version) hundreds of millions of women in long term relationships will cancel their profitable monthly subscription. That's a massive negative market for sure.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 06:53 PM
0

In the first year yes. After that it reverses. And can be largely overcome by allowing them reproductive rights in the first place.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 02:51 PM
3

And due to this, men are more violent and also put themselves at risk of violence by more risk taking behaviours.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 07:57 AM
-1

We can suck because they suck, got it.
/r/MensRights15/04/15 06:21 AM
1

What helpful sarcasm, you're a shining light to the MRA community. We need more people like you as a shining beacon showing the world what we're all about. A++ Would up vote again.
/r/MensRights23/02/15 10:38 PM
0

Implying women are more susceptible to pandering than men. Welcome back to Mysoginist Rights Activists. Come on guys we're better than this bullshit, there's actual issues in her speech. Why up vote the thinly veiled mysoginy again?
/r/MensRights23/02/15 09:46 PM
1

The fuckwits that post there are an example of the society we live in with their red pill thinking. Not only that the ones that post are the ones we know of. How many of them don't post? Now how many of them run society? Chilling thought isnt' it. You could be someone talking about some of the red pillers that post in MRA. By sinking to this level we belittle our voice, detract from our arguments, turn away possible supporters and basically become a joke. MRA is important, to important to be pet…
/r/MensRights19/02/15 01:49 PM
1

Post the article, the injustice, not the retarded commentary by the idiot. You will always be able to find retards on line that say the stupidest shit, but to focus on them belittles the actual issue. It actually distracts people. A normal person sees this and goes what are you wasting your time and energy on a broken fuckwit like that instead of the double standard of the judge and of the press? Do you see what I'm getting at. You make it personal by targeting one stupid person. It's not person…
/r/MensRights19/02/15 12:46 AM
0

This is as stupid as posting the dumbest most misogynist thing a troll has ever posted on TRP and holding it up as a typical MRA. What have we become?
/r/MensRights18/02/15 11:45 PM
4

Being 'a bit dickish' is your right, and no one's feelings no matter how strong should ever trump that.
/r/MensRights14/02/15 12:15 AM
0

Hehehehe nice one.
/r/MensRights07/02/15 05:31 PM
-6

I used to come here not long after it started, it focused on the imbalance in family law, the difference in educational needs of boys and girls, problems in suicide rates and family violence reporting. It was interesting and educational. IMHO it's still got some of this, but has been invaded by women hating misogynists, they see every gain towards equality women have achieved as a loss to men and feminism never achieved anything positive for society. It's a toxic us via them mentality that does …
/r/MensRights07/02/15 02:30 AM
23

Sorry about getting cum on your sleeve
/r/seduction29/01/15 08:41 PM
11

How did you know?
/r/seduction29/01/15 07:47 PM
34

Nice work bro. I met my wife on a bus.
/r/seduction29/01/15 04:54 AM
0

If you keep your judgements to your self, you can judge anyone for anything. Once you open your mouth you're just another judgemental, self rightious, up tight asshole, and people suddenly know it. Judge not, lest you be judged.
/r/MensRights18/01/15 12:42 AM
3

Well do they?
/r/MensRights27/10/14 02:00 AM
0

Did you also miss my point entirely?
/r/PussyPass14/09/14 10:58 PM
0

I'm not an American, I was just using a colloquialism. If you didn't get that it just reinforces my general assertion.
/r/PussyPass14/09/14 08:24 AM
-1

Did you not pass grade school?
/r/PussyPass13/09/14 02:31 PM
-1

I wasn't saying it made it legal, I just pointed out that she didn't necessarily do it knowningly. Comprehension issues much?
/r/PussyPass07/09/14 02:58 AM
1

It is not a fact that she knew she was producing child porn, she may have not known what she was doing was covered by a stupid law. Also she may have been in a jurisdiction without these retarded laws at the time. Objectively he's speculating at best.
/r/PussyPass05/09/14 02:33 AM
-2

Reasoned and articulate response, thank you for your contribution.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 08:29 AM
2

What colour are those ones :D
/r/MensRights28/05/14 07:18 AM
-8

"Rape culture" is about men holding women partly to blame when they are raped. Not about trying to make women feel safe.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 02:31 AM
1

That's my point, In a perfect world everyone would have a good pair of strong supportive role models of both sexes. But there a proportionally just as many good gay parents as straight. In fact the % that are good would be higher because they have to choose to become parents. It's likely gay parents are better parents because they plan to have children which puts them statistically ahead before it even happens.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 07:52 AM
0

I had a wonderful strong attentive caring feminist single mother for many years, then a distant, unsupportive single father. I would take the engaged and attentive parents first time every time. Male, Female, Transgender, Mixed up, or confused.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 12:54 PM
-18

Thread hijack much? Way to belittle the op's point.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 12:30 AM
15

Alimony is an outdated concept. Sending people to prison for a change of circumstances beyond their control is morally repugnant.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 05:24 AM
20

Kissing with him on top of me is already changed from something friendly to something sexual.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:47 AM
4

Huge = over 5 * Huge Go figure.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 10:38 PM
1

This is a great MR post and the reason I am an Advocate.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 09:55 AM
-2

This is a very good point and should be addressed.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 09:54 AM
9

In that article Stef McGraw the author at no point throws any doubt on the fact the rape threats where real. In fact she gives every impression that she believes the screen shots of the hate mail and rape threats are real. This is the kind of half arsed circlejerk tactic that destroys this subreddit's credibility. The fact it has 9 upvotes when it is obvious that not one person actually read it proves the hivemindedness. And I love Mens Rights, it makes me a sad panda.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 12:37 AM
1

do you believe both genders deserve full bodily rights from birth to death? is open to interpretation and needs clarification.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:53 AM
-1

If this is what we did MRA would be much more popular.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 10:12 AM
1

You got the gist of what I was saying, according to the site if 88% of violence is from men. Therefore it will be self defense in the women's case almost 9 times as often as men's cases.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 06:43 AM
5

It's not the violence against women that needs to be addressed it's the violence commited by men that must be addressed, committed against anyone. Men commit 88% of murders.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 03:43 AM
-1

If we look here and extrapolate murder to violence against the partner, then men commit a lot more and women will be defending themselves more often. Therefore extenuating circumstances such as self defense are a lot more likely.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 03:38 AM
3

I just surveyed 10 people (randoms at my work) and they all knew something was up at the 1st question and by the 4th thought the stats had been purposefully reversed in other words it is a pretty transparent trick. Now if we look here it shows that although women may get an easier time in the legal system they are a lot more often the victim. So if men are committing violence more often, perhaps the women are getting an easier time because there is more often extenuating circumstances. Without f…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 03:34 AM
6

Hear hear.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 06:05 AM
5

Ouch my rights.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 06:04 AM
4

TIL it took a week to take a photo in the 1930s.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 05:52 AM
1

Our assholes passed laws for centuries. No vote, can sell your daughter, can beat your wife, can rape your wife etc etc. Maybe there have been some over ballance now but it can be a bit of a seesaw.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 04:36 AM
0

It's about perception, reddit is 80% American readership where cunt is a derogatory term for woman worse than bitch, therefore 80% of the votes should have been downvotes at least. When I came across this post it was 33/4 upvoted. Making excuses for the commenter does not excuse the voters.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 03:34 AM
0

When cunt is used in a friendly blokey way it is done with a smile or some other indication of comradery, as you so eruditely displayed with your: ya great big cunt. this is in no way conveyed in the context of the above comment. Although I am an optimist and assume the best of my fellow MRA commenters intentions and I hope the comment is just him displaying very poor communication skills, the volume of upvotes (it was 33 to 4 when I first arrived) is very disappointing and part of the reason we…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 01:35 AM
45

Honest question, can anyone in men's rights please explain to me why this statement isn't misogyny and is not harmful to our cause?
/r/MensRights05/05/12 02:57 PM
4

I don't believe a cartoon vag on a towel would get your arrested unless your refused to remove it when repeatedly asked by a police person (unless you happen to live somewhere with sharia law).
/r/MensRights05/05/12 02:51 PM
15

100 years ago it pretty much was. These things change.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 09:08 PM
2

There are a lot of people that recognise that men are privileged in a lot of ways. But that does not make them think that they have no right to talk about inequality. You didn't suffer from extreme feminism, you suffered from abusive parenting. Your mother was a bad person, feminism was just a tool she used to justify her abuse. She could have used hatred of your father, her father, your weakness, her abusive upbringing, or any other idea to justify her behaviour. I am sorry you had an abusive p…
/r/MensRights08/10/11 03:20 AM
4

The only time you will be labelled a pervert is if your attention goes above and beyond the attention attracted by the majority of men. Most men will take a glance, Or a look, or a look and a smile. And a enormous majority of people will think this is normal. If you are getting called out as being a pervert for your behaviour you are acting outside societal norms. There are exceptions of course as there are for all human interactions but they are rare.
/r/MensRights22/08/11 12:09 AM
4

Sometimes after constructing an argument you realise you can put the point more succinctly in a sentence. So rather than throwing out your good paragraph you append your better tldr;
/r/MensRights18/08/11 06:41 AM
2

He's a doctor and his child support is $800 a month. Fucking no way. I am locked in for $1200 a month and I earn less than a half a lowest salaried doctor's base income.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 06:59 AM
1

I am in the same situation, I had a crap ex whom I could not cut off due to joint custody. I was the bigger man and kept civil and helpful despite her continual bullshit. In the end it paid off, my daughter knows which parent is the better person, and how an adult should behave. In the end the ex grew up too and now we have a fragile respect for each other.
/r/MensRights26/07/11 01:52 AM
-3

So you wont help with your children's bags, and won't make small talk with your ex and you wonder why she tries to keep hurting you? Get a DNA test and start being a grown up.
/r/MensRights26/07/11 12:02 AM
1

Thank you for your time and thoughtful discussion.
/r/MensRights18/04/11 12:22 PM
1

I agree with you that the objectification and sexualisation of children has gone way to far. But that is a separate topic to how a woman chooses to dress. There is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to be and look sexy, just as there is nothing wrong with me wanting to, and if that incites violence then there is something wrong with society, not the person who looks sexy.
/r/MensRights15/04/11 10:26 PM
1

You are completely correct on the definition and my use of the word misogynistic, I appreciate the correction thank you. I will not make that mistake again. You have not displayed any of those characteristics. In my defence I believe considering my new understanding of the word that it is very often incorrectly used. Attention seeking behaviour is ok, I'm a sexy bastard and I seek attention, I dress to get it, I want the attention of the hottest chick in the room. Occasionally this threatens oth…
/r/MensRights15/04/11 12:03 AM
1

You can love women and be a misogynist. A woman seeking attention is not the same as a woman with little self worth. A woman seeking attention can have any reason for it. Or maybe she's just got poor taste. Or bad role models who could blame her these days. But who are you to judge? where do your rules on what's 'inappropriate' come from? What gives you the right? *edit, I would really like to thank you, over the course this discussion (and whole thread) you and the others have really made me co…
/r/MensRights14/04/11 10:51 PM
1

Now your misogyny finally comes to the fore, a girl who dresses sexy has little self worth. Well fuck you for being so wrong and judgemental.
/r/MensRights14/04/11 10:23 PM
1

You are concentrating exclusively on dress, and the only apparent reason for this is it is exclusively a female issue pertaining to rape that cannot be used in the plethora of counter examples that are used to show the hypocrisy of the argument. You refuse to counter the obvious and strong male victims of violence argument. A rapist is going to rape, he's going to pick a victim, being the sexiest dressed girl at a party may get his attention, dressing in a full burka may avoid him but will leave…
/r/MensRights13/04/11 11:29 PM
0

The proportion is all wrong. The risk to threat is blown out of proportion. We don't immediately point out that going out drinking might get you bashed despite it being far more likely than a girl getting raped. Or that crashing your car on the way to the party is more likely that getting raped at it, It is done to such a extent it becomes a victim blaming exercise. You have not provided one reason for this imbalance between risk and the onus on the woman to protect herself from it with any othe…
/r/MensRights12/04/11 03:57 PM
2

You are missing my point. A rapist is responsible for a rape full stop. If you start to imply the woman's risky behaviour has a bearing it becomes... She had flaky friends %10 her fault She dressed sexy %10 her fault She flirted with a stranger %10 her fault She didn't watch her drink %10 her fault She drank some alcohol %10 her fault She stayed at a party after 12pm %10 her fault She has been told these are risky behaviours, she now feels the rape was %60 her fault. More dangerously the rapist …
/r/MensRights12/04/11 03:12 PM
1

It's not just a matter of dress it's a matter of victim blame. A rapist is responsible for rape, an assailant is responsible for assault. Just because either victim is drunk, not around friends, not dressed "appropriately", or is out at night, does not make the assault partly their fault. Saying the man shouldn't go out or get drunk or dress like a hipster because he has a chance of being beaten implies that if he does do any of these things it is partly his fault. Since male on male assault is …
/r/MensRights12/04/11 02:27 PM
1

Assaults of men happen a lot more than rapes of women and is a much bigger issue so... Look, here it is, plain and simple. The overwhelming majority of men will never beat up a man in their entire lives. The tiny percentage of men who will assault, do it as often as they can. Now while it is impossible to tell where and when one of these sick individuals will be, it is in your best interest (as someone who would like to avoid being assaulted) to keep not dressing like a weakling in mind when you…
/r/MensRights12/04/11 01:36 PM
1

They have the control to make smart choices before and after victimization. What would you have them do? Not go out, Not drink, Not flirt with strangers? By telling girls not to do these things is to imply that these behaviours invite rape. And therefore if a girl follows one or more of them she is partly responsible for it. There is one person responsible for rape, the rapist. If you deny this then it becomes, Dressed sexy 10% her fault Got drunk 10% her fault Went to a party 10% her fault Flak…
/r/MensRights12/04/11 06:13 AM
1

Because if people are always saying, buy more security, get yourself a gun or two, put alarms on your house, buy a doberman, don't go out, don't have a drink you might get robbed. If I do happen to get robbed and I haven't taken every one of these precautions, suddenly I am made to feel guilty despite being the victim. I am less likely to go to the cops because I feel stupid for not installing that monitored house alarm an the timed lights and going out on a weekend night. And if this mentality …
/r/MensRights12/04/11 04:13 AM
1

Sorry not at hand, maybe google this: Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 2001
/r/MensRights11/04/11 10:06 PM
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Yeah I was not completely clear on it and in a rush so if property crime is %100, violent crime is %14 give or take. The point being you should expect to be robbed a hell of a lot more than expecting to be raped.
/r/MensRights11/04/11 10:00 PM
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is like saying a murder charge was uncontested apart from the issue of whether anyone had died. So we went to his apartment and found 2 litres of her blood sprayed over the walls, there was a message on her mums voicemail begging to be helped because she thought her man was going to kill her. There is a knife with her hair and skin cells on it and his fingerprints, but as we cannot find her body we better let him go? The difference is the rape victim called the cops immediately afterwards and sa…
/r/MensRights11/04/11 09:58 PM
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Good point. I should have accepted his anecdote as valid before pointing out the differences.
/r/MensRights11/04/11 10:51 AM
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Girls are not putting themselves in the situation you describe above except in the rarest of cases, but to hear the rape 'apoligists' you would think every girl raped was naked in a prison cell full of rapists too drunk to see by her own volition. A tiny % of rapes happen where the girl knowingly took real foreseeable risks, but if a rape happens people are far too quick to ask what she did to 'deserve' it. By perpetuating the myth that it happens like this all the time you do a disservice to ra…
/r/MensRights11/04/11 09:35 AM
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Your example is extreme and rare. By repeating it like it's common you and everyone who blames the victim are adding to the problem. Now if a woman gets trashed or dresses sexy or goes home with a douchebag who pretended to be nice is assumed to have been asking for it. You are helping perpetuate this myth. If you dress like a sexual object, get incredibly trashed, and go home with some random douche-bag.
/r/MensRights11/04/11 09:27 AM
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Not baiting men? what on earth could that mean. Flirting with out wanting to fuck tonight, is that baiting? Looking sexy but not being interested in a particular guy, is that baiting. Where do you draw the line between being a little frustrated and being baited to rape by a girl? WTF dude. PS. All violent crime put together makes up less than 14% of property crime.
/r/MensRights11/04/11 07:49 AM
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I was raped last night That sucks, did you go out? Uh yes Did you have a drink Uh yes Was your dress above your knee? Uh yes That was kinda dumb The defence rests. Stop blaming me! It's like you're saying I asked for it!
/r/MensRights11/04/11 07:40 AM
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Cops can be jerks too, the difference is if your case went to court, the fact you left your iPod in your car would not be used in the thief's defence. But in a rape case what the girl was wearing would be bought up for the jury to consider. It's institutionalised.The rape case I was on the jury for spent most of the defence case trying to tear apart the integrity of the victim. As the prosecutions side of the case was essentially uncontested apart from the consent part the whole case was an atta…
/r/MensRights11/04/11 07:17 AM
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If you went out at night and your house was robbed, well you should have stayed home, everyone knows going out is asking to have your house robbed. People don't say that about thieves robbing your house but they certainly use a similar argument to imply that girls who go out at night are asking for it.
/r/MensRights11/04/11 06:47 AM
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Fair enough. I will be happy with any attempt to move family law in the right direction. I know there are serious mens rights issues I am personally on the wrong end of some fairly shitty family law. I also have a positive optimistic upbeat outlook on life so my problem is that most of the stuff that comes out of this Subreddit is as negative as the bile spilt by the rare but loud man hating femanist. Just reading the constant bitterness and spite is enough to turn you away from the movement.
/r/MensRights24/03/11 11:13 PM
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You be bitter while I fucking celebrate the positive change. Each to their own I guess.
/r/MensRights24/03/11 10:20 PM
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Top comment is sarcasm, best post on mensrights in ages and the top comment is sarcasm. Way to go mensrights, woo for being bitter.
/r/MensRights24/03/11 09:50 PM
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Don't date her dude is down right now, but should fulfil your revenge needs as well as don't date him girl does for chicks.
/r/MensRights18/03/11 04:15 AM
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I don't agree with quotas but this article is shit. If you are a man - your only chance of getting onto a board is if the female quota has been fulfilled. If it has not you can be the best business person in the world, but you still won't get on. That is the end of meritocracy and equality for men in the Britain's companies. Bullshit. If you are the best business person in the world you get selected for the first position in the board full stop. If the board has a 5 spots you get the first spot …
/r/MensRights25/02/11 02:28 AM
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You missed the part where they don't have a job or career path and live in a Frat house. You are not the man she was talking about.
/r/MensRights22/02/11 11:49 PM
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They are also often related, If we were better set up to raise boys into functioning men and fixed the family courts a lot of the depression and suicide would be solved.
/r/MensRights16/02/11 12:57 PM
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The mental health discrepancies and suicide rates are pretty damning as well although not as "sexy" issues as false rape allegations and family court inequities.
/r/MensRights16/02/11 10:42 AM
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In Lebanon a woman must provide proof of elementary education before she can vote, all men can vote.
/r/MensRights16/02/11 10:38 AM
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The oppositional conceptualization of feminism needs to die. Is this why we are taking quotes from 20 years ago? Maybe it died last generation. If I go back to 1908 I can find some pretty mysoginist quotes from the Times as well. And they will be directly from the editor.
/r/MensRights14/02/11 11:10 AM
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If their job involved compulsory sleeping with women, the police are basically part prostitutes paid by the state. They entered the job willingly with knowledge of what was expected. It's a bit late to start feeling sorry for yourself and your prostitution job 7 years later.
/r/MensRights25/01/11 05:00 AM
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I guess I was thinking more about getting jobs. If you have to choose between a male and female applicant with the same ability/education then it comes down to the "feel" of how they will achieve and fit into the organisation. This all important part of the interview process is the hardest to keep balanced.
/r/MensRights15/01/11 10:58 AM
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It doesn't take effort it is innate, people have preconceived ideas about what particular skills each gender is proficient at, and it influences their decision making often unbeknownst to them.
/r/MensRights14/01/11 01:48 PM
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My experience in real life differs tremendously from yours. On line the extremists get the attention. And in the press. But on a day to day basis dealing with real people the 'advance women at any cost' feminists are a rare breed.
/r/MensRights14/01/11 01:42 PM
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There are other democracies in the world that are more liberal than the US and they have no enshrined right to free speech. Are you sure it's a cornerstone? Maybe more of a guiding principal that can be bent and twisted when your Government wants.
/r/MensRights04/11/10 12:34 AM
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Exactly, both were idiots.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 12:44 PM
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Not equivalent, but not expecting a slap is stupid. Particularly when you already know she's a drunk bitch with something to prove to start with.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 10:19 AM
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And any one that calls a woman a bitch to her face in front of her friends and doesn't expect some kind of repercussions is just as much of an idiot. Now we are being asked to provide our opinion, two idiots slapped each other, what more is there to say.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 08:16 AM
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This is purely a chance to raise money for a worthy charity. I believe you may be speaking from ignorance. Men is not an "other group". Beyond blue etc. raise a huge amount of money and raise awareness of men's health issues with movember, both of which are very positive outcomes. Prostate cancer and depression don't have the same "sex appeal" as breast cancer, there is no Pink ribbon day, week, month etc. for fundraising and awareness. You cannot buy brown capped drinking water for prostate can…
/r/MensRights29/10/10 07:14 AM
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Seriously, If you don't get this annulled as soon as possible you deserve to be treated as a door mat. The warning bells have never sounded louder. Tell her it was all to soon and rushed, and you don't want to hurt her by dragging it out for a long time.
/r/MensRights22/09/10 12:20 AM
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Man you sure go to shitty bars. The bars around my place are classy with cool live music, great atmosphere, upwardly mobile crowd and boutique beers. I go to chill with my friends of both sexes and have never had a problem with violence.
/r/MensRights09/09/10 02:10 AM
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I understand your argument that there are more exceptional men at the upper and lower end of the spectrum, our bell curve is wider than women's, all I am saying is that this is not the only cause of the job disparity, there is also still innate sexism at the top level of most companies artificially widening the gap. I know I see it around me at work. I have seen it in other jobs. Maybe when these 20 somethings grow up it will be swayed in the other direction, but at the moment it isn't.
/r/MensRights03/09/10 09:21 PM
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Agreed, that is what this article is saying, people with degrees (more 20 something women than men) are getting paid more. The fact that women are getting the degrees and men are not probably would be a good discussion for MR, but this article isn't.
/r/MensRights03/09/10 09:03 PM
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What are you saying that a woman that gets a degree then a job didn't work harder than a man who just got the job?
/r/MensRights03/09/10 08:40 PM
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This is the gold MensRights should be full of. Good practical advice without the women are Satan bullshit.
/r/MensRights03/09/10 09:03 AM
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That's right Women with the same job, same education, same ability choose to earn 20% less than men. Women choose to be the one who has to take time off to carry a baby. Actually scratch that posting here is tiresome and pointless, I look at my Co. and see 30 Upper executives, 1 female. She has children. Some of those executives are not exceptional and could be easily replaced with any of the competent female managers who would be at least as good at the job. The discrimination is around me, I l…
/r/MensRights03/09/10 08:35 AM
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No, the women have put in a ton more work to get the degree and then the better job.
/r/MensRights02/09/10 11:20 PM
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Where as mine, one of the largest companies in Australia, 1 in 30 executives is female. But I guess you get that in mining, telecoms, IT, manufacturing, transport, energy, waste management, farming, automotive, construction, banking, government etc.
/r/MensRights02/09/10 07:58 AM
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Or whether people get to choose their jobs. Fuckit I choose to be an astronaut.
/r/MensRights02/09/10 07:52 AM
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It was across all fields for but only in areas where a lot more women go to college and the men don't, and as long as they are in their 20s, have a degree, have no kids and are single. Woo equality achieved and surpassed.
/r/MensRights02/09/10 02:41 AM
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Rape not statuary rape.
/r/MensRights17/08/10 12:32 PM
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touché.
/r/MensRights10/08/10 04:45 PM
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It was a central point of the OPs Article and backed up by some of my early 20s experiences. Despite the Author trying to denigrate a good lay he had the fact is they are not desperate they are out there and they know what they want.
/r/MensRights10/08/10 04:43 PM
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So the sexually confident, easily orgasming, promiscuous, horny Cougars out there are sleeping with different boys than the teenage girls are? I must be missing something.
/r/MensRights10/08/10 12:32 PM
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Even though hormone levels for both males and females are their highest during puberty, women report having more orgasms from their late twenties to their mid-forties. The paper specifically refutes the hormone based definition of a sexual peak instead referring to ease and frequency of orgasms to determine sexual peak, despite hormones.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 11:37 PM
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So when you posted They specifically mentioned that they use "sexual prime" as the prime moments in one's life where they are both most physically suited to having sex and most capable of having/raising children. you where talking about the Lead Article of this Post, not the linked scientific studies? The main aim of the OPs post (and Title) is to refute the commonly held belief (caused by studies) that women realise their peak later than men (normally 32-38 from what I've read). He does this by…
/r/MensRights09/08/10 10:23 AM
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Maybe some hormones will kick in and make you randier and more satisfied in a couple of years? You never know your luck in a big city.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:54 AM
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You miss the point, sexual peak is not about their fuck-ability, it's about their desire for and enjoyment of fucking, this article attempts to swap the two to refute studies to the contrary, it is a bait and switch straw man.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:51 AM
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Exactly, trust the men's right crowd to redefine women's sexual peak as the peak of their desirability to men. It'd be funny if it didn't belittle the real men's rights issues.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:48 AM
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You don't get to redefine how a paper has defined something to create your very own straw-man argument.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:43 AM
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I believe you may be mistaken Study 2 indicated that the defining feature of sexual peak for males was sexual desire and for females was sexual satisfaction. In fact in the most relevant of those linked (Sexual peak: Socially shared cognitions about desire, frequency, and satisfaction in men and women) the only relevant mention of fertility was in reference to the woman's biological clock and how an increase in orgasm capacity may be to battle the decrease in fertility.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:39 AM
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After that their husbands get worse in bed?
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:21 AM
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Maybe it's the media selling clothes and make-up on 12 year old models with flawless skin, run by rich old men who know making women feel inferior is profitable. Just saying.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:20 AM
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The studies the author is trying to debunk use the desire to have sex and their enjoyment of sex as the definition of sexual peak, the author uses a straw man argument redefining sexual peak to a purely male point of view where it is about fertility and attractiveness instead. If this is the case then a man reaches his sexual peak when he gets rich because that's when he becomes the most attractive and the best possible father.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:17 AM
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Drawing parallels between the men's rights movement and the blacks struggle with segregation belittles the discrimination blacks suffered/still suffer and prevents people from taking the valid men's rights movement and issues seriously.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 08:03 AM
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women's desire for sex is meaningless when it comes to a sexual peak women's ability to attract fine mates has meaning in a biological and evolutionary sense So a man's sexual peak is when he is rich? Redefining Sexual peak to suit your argument against the studies that you are arguing against sounds like a man telling a woman how it is.
/r/MensRights09/08/10 07:53 AM
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Ask her open ended questions. Practice listening to her answers so you can frame more. Remember her answers so you can bring them up in the future, this will show a great level of interest and make her feel flattered that you remembered the small details of her life.
/r/seduction08/08/10 12:19 PM
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In a lot of places it does. Adoption means taking over the parental rights and responsibilities, not just adding to them. Imagine adopting out your child when it was born then the new parents hitting you up for CS next month.
/r/MensRights28/06/10 09:15 AM
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Why not call it murder. That's what is is. "Domestic violence" dredges up all kinds of imagery none of it as serious as murder. Why lump this serious crime in with a whole bunch of less serious ones.
/r/MensRights09/06/10 11:19 PM
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Not only that the guy went on to move in with another girl friend years later and only tried to commit suicide after a fight with the new girl. Sort of a long bow to draw that it was even remotely related to the rape allegation.
/r/MensRights03/06/10 08:11 AM
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I seriously hope this all comes good for you man. If so you will prove the system can occasionally get it right. my fingers are crossed on your behalf.
/r/MensRights21/05/10 02:00 AM
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How about 'I love you too' does that lie make me a rapist? edit* assuming I used it to get into a girl's pants.
/r/MensRights07/04/10 02:20 AM
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'I'm not married' makes it rape? The world is full of rapists. You may have to narrow your criteria.
/r/MensRights07/04/10 01:25 AM
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This is the kind of gem I stay subscribed to men's rights for, a thoughtful and surprising take on an issue I had never considered before. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I wish the hourly "Men are domestically abused as much as women" and "false rape claim" posts where replaced by thoughtful and insightful posts such as this.
/r/MensRights25/03/10 02:41 AM
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Oh come on.
/r/MensRights19/03/10 10:49 AM
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I agree that sexism is sexism independent of the position. I guess I was only pointing out that these two cases of sexism in the example are far from equal except at a most superficial level.
/r/MensRights03/02/10 01:32 AM
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I know, but they are outnumbered substantially. I am not going to argue the merits of their reasoning, I am just communicating what I have observed them wanting.
/r/MensRights02/02/10 11:11 PM
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I was responding to the comment Yes and yes. Perfectly valid comparison. As the women questioning the CFO positions don't particularly question the lack of male nannys because they don't think that a nanny is a highly sort after lucrative position. That is all. I was not arguing it is a %100 valid position, it is just highly likely reason. Oh and as for the escorts quip, If a woman could earn the same lifetime salary, respect, political clout and social influence as a top CFO there would be men …
/r/MensRights02/02/10 12:07 PM
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Firstly you can dream of being a political or commercial force without a job but that is not the point. There are alternatives to low paying low skill jobs. There are few positions of influence and power. You are not comparing apples with apples. Women don't fight for the right to be bus boys because they can earn the same money and respect for the same skill set in similar jobs.
/r/MensRights02/02/10 11:21 AM
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For a short time and for a small pay packet. A CFO position is desirable as it is a position of power and influence. Women are not complaining because they cannot get equal number of taxi driver jobs or plumber jobs. They want equality in positions where they can wield influence, change companies policies and influence politics.
/r/MensRights02/02/10 10:58 AM
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Agreed, but you cannot separate equality from financial and political power, a CFO position comes with a lot of benefits other than the purely financial. A nanny position may be desirable for someone travelling that needs a cheap place to stay while on holiday or while they are studying etc, but a CFO position is desirable for the financial freedom, political clout and respect demanded by the title.
/r/MensRights02/02/10 10:55 AM
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I suspect more women would aspire to be CFOs than do to be nannys, so they assume the same desires from men?
/r/MensRights02/02/10 06:51 AM
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Agreed and a missing basic understanding of male physiology. That is why I am not overly concerned, as soon as a real doctor's opinion is sought this will be explained as normal, FFS the vibration of the car on a long drive gives me a boner, it doesn't mean I want to fuck the car.
/r/MensRights14/01/10 10:21 PM
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I am an optimist, I believe this will be victimless when the woman gets off the internet and real people laugh at her stupidity.
/r/MensRights14/01/10 10:19 PM
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It is just a case of under-education. We all no sometimes the stupid comes out on the net. Never put down to malice what can be explained by stupidity. Or something.
/r/MensRights14/01/10 06:08 AM
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except with no down vote button for stupid advice, and no reply to button to refute a claim specifically.
/r/MensRights14/01/10 06:07 AM
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You are correct it can be hidden, that was kind of a throw away line. But if it sneaks in one small step at a time you must be vigilant and not all starry eyed. The first time it shows it's face you stamp it out. Sure I love you but that behaviour is unacceptable for the following reasons.. Choose women who can reason and have the self respect to stand up for yourself. It is sometimes a matter of teaching them about equality and what it means but you have to act early and firmly, they respect yo…
/r/MensRights26/10/09 12:16 PM
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You need to choose healthier relationships man, girls like that can be weeded out on a first date.
/r/MensRights26/10/09 03:24 AM
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I share ancestry and genes and values with my countrymen. Also my votes elect my government who can make decisions I am proud of etc etc. You are drawing un-necessarily tight distinctions on who I can share pride with. In fact it is healthy to feel pride in the achievements of others it shows a ability to feel empathy. It needn't be limited to a person, family or country even. If for example the people on the planet manage to control our impact on the climate in my lifetime I will feel proud of …
/r/MensRights24/09/09 03:19 PM
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It was theoretical, but considering I can call 3 countries home I am spoilt for choice. Maybe NZ for being the first country to give women the vote :D Maybe Australia for their investment and achievements in sport, maybe America for developing the internet whom I love so dearly.
/r/MensRights24/09/09 02:16 PM
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Like the family is proud of his art collection His art collection was the pride of the family. I can be proud of the accomplishments of of my countrymen.
/r/MensRights24/09/09 01:55 PM
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If you have an agenda you find evidence to support it, and ignore evidence to the contrary. This is the problem with feminists who have an agenda and MRAs who have one too.
/r/MensRights23/09/09 06:12 AM
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Maybe they are reading mensrights on reddit removes tongue from cheek
/r/MensRights25/06/09 07:06 AM
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Humans can own guns by default, but laws are put in place to prevent everyone having one, unless they make a decision they want one and go and get a licence. Is this "Seriously" evil? and according to the example above there would be no waiting time or criteria for the licence. Once again it is Functionally no different than having 100% effective birth control for both partners. And if someone wants to be fertile by default as soon as they are with someone and get their agreement they can choose…
/r/MensRights28/05/09 01:52 AM
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I fail to see the missing freedom, unless it is the freedom to sucker in an unwilling partner. You and your partner would have the freedom to be fertile at the same time. I think it is a good idea. In fact it is functionally no different than both partners having 100% effective optional birth control now.
/r/MensRights27/05/09 02:19 AM
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Men have no say in how the money is spent. But the 24 week opt out suggestion is better.
/r/MensRights27/05/09 02:11 AM
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This is a great article and I wish there where more like this in the men's rights sub reddit and less "ohh look a woman did a bad thing to a man" articles.
/r/MensRights09/03/09 08:09 AM
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Sounds like a Scientology beat up to me. Edit: I could be wrong (see disclaimer), but I still don't trust it, there is no indication of who does sponsor the site. DISCLAIMER: This site is in no way associated with either the Church of Scientology or the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR).
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