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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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6	Men think women “have it easy” on dating apps. Let’s run a thought experiment. Men would outnumber women on this app within days.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/26 04:34 PM
–	What do you actually want women to do? I have only ever heard this idea of women wanting to not work and have a male provider from red pillers, never from actual women It sounded to me like you didn't believe that these women existed at all	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 04:35 PM
2	What do you actually want women to do? I don't agree. From what I've seen, women have inflated their standards after earning more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 03:11 AM
2	What do you actually want women to do? I'm happy for you, and I hope for your success in the future.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 02:04 AM
0	What do you actually want women to do? Do you think paying for the first date is being a provider? Most men don't just pay for the first date. They pay for almost every single date. And that's before any type of commitment from the women's side. If that's not being a provider, then I don't know what is. You actually cannot be serious…using content from a social media platform with highly personalized algortihms as evidence? Fair enough, but let's take the converse. Does the fact that you don't see these posts mean that they don't exi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 02:02 AM
2	What do you actually want women to do? It's less about what you can or can't have, and more about the consequences of having what you want. From what you said, you've obviously picked having a more fulfilling career over having a more fulfilling romantic life, and there's nothing wrong with that. (I'm not even saying that you don't have a fulfilling romantic life, just that it would perhaps be more fulfilling had you pursued it with the same vigor that you did your career.) Men just want you to: Admit to yourself and everyone else th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 01:55 AM
4	What do you actually want women to do? Your question is the same one that men have been asking as well. Is there no consideration for the progress that that's been made on the side of women? Women literally went from not being allowed to attend colleges in many cases to being a majority of the college student body. Young women now earn more than young men on average in the job market. But now that they're doing better, they're not only not satisfied, they're actively wanting more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 01:36 AM
1	What do you actually want women to do? There’s plenty of complaining online. Maybe you just touch too much grass, but there’s no shortage of TikTok’s or reels of women complaining about how much they hate working. And the idea of men being providers is already baked in. It’s assumed that the men will be providing most of the money in the relationship, even when they are still dating.The “Who pays on dates” discourse proves that already. If you don’t believe this is the case then we’re too far apart in our assessment of reality to hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/26 10:58 PM
-1	What do you actually want women to do? Women as a class? Pick a lane. Women currently exist in essentially a superposition, where they want the benefits of both modernity and tradition, but without the drawbacks of either. Just one example: currently, women are allowed to have jobs, careers, own property, and manage their own finances. But they still want men who are providers, and if they can’t get one, men are allowed scrubs, and there aren’t any more real men. The irony being that women are competing against men for the very jobs …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/26 10:49 PM
45	Its not “Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks” for women to change their priorities over time. You just posted a justification for the idea of AFBB, not a refutation of the fact that it exists. If a woman made bad decisions early in her life (Personally, I wouldn’t even consider them bad decisions, that’s your wording) and fucked a ton of hot guys, and later came to regret those decisions as she matured, does that mean the fucking didn’t happen? On the men’s side, no one is saying that betas don’t try to fuck around in their youth. The fact that they have no success is what makes them bet…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/25 04:05 PM
3	Do you agree with Iliza Schlesinger's take on hateful undesirable saying that it's "natural selection"? What is "natural" about anything that's happening in the dating market? Dating apps are not "natural." The collapse of men is not "natural."	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/25 02:07 AM
-1	Q4M: Is it common for men to fantasize about being with a billionaire? Yeah because that’s literally what nature intended.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/25 02:41 PM
–	You have no excuses for dating failures if you aren’t putting in 100% Suppose there was a challenge where if you can lift a 2006 Honda Civic, and if you win the challenge, you get a dollar. “Hell no,” I say, “that’s too much work for not enough reward.” “Ok it’s your decision if you want to be lazy. Lock in,” you retort. That’s what you sound like to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/25 05:01 PM
24	If marriage benefits men more than women, why are women always the ones pressuring their partner into marriage? It's only as much of a burden as she made it to be. She could have just done a simple ceremony in a back yard with close family members with some nice food and drink afterwards. I have no sympathy for a woman when she complains about having to plan to get the doves released at the right time so that it doesn't interfere with the live band.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/25 03:52 PM
–	Why are men obsessed with younger 23 year old women when there are so many women in their 30s,40s, and 50s who look phenomenal? Fertility. That’s the biggest reason. It’s not a secret that the further you go past 30, the less fertile a woman becomes. For men who are dating to get married and have children, this is the biggest reason. Baggage. Older people simply have more baggage. It’s not a gendered thing, it’s true for everyone, but baggage matters more for men when choosing women than the other way around. Attitude. Your post is actually a great demonstration of this. You list all of the reasons you’re more attractive…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/25 12:29 AM
23	CMV: Consent is sexy Sorry, you’re right. Let’s have them sign the consent form instead. And make sure you initial section 3(B)-2 where it says that you were not under duress in the inducement, process, or completion of the signing of this form.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 05:27 PM
12	If we remove finances men have nothing to give What do you mean exactly when you say men need to be better at communication because in my experience, it’s women who are the ones that are awful at communicating. I’ve had multiple instances of women getting mad at me for some perceived slight, me asking them why they’re mad, and them not telling me. And after the whole ordeal, she said that if I really cared, I’d already know why she was mad. This isn’t just with girlfriends either. Female friends do this as well. Now I understand that it’s ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/25 12:58 AM
8	Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying? How deep the friendship goes has nothing to do with it. I’ll give a fictitious example to illustrate. This specific example didn’t happen to me or anyone I know, but something similar has happened to both me and people I know. Jeff’s parents are divorced and people in the friend group know, including Sally and Kevin. Sally reaches out afterwards and consoles Jeff and talks with him. Jeff opens up to Sally because she’s a friend. Kevin doesn’t outwardly console Jeff, but they go out drinking toge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 08:24 PM
54	Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying? Maybe not all women, but I’ve met multiple women who, either consciously or subconsciously, use information their friends or boyfriends said to them in a moment of vulnerability as ammunition down the line in an argument or as leverage. It’s not even a gendered thing, they do it to male and female friends. On the other hand, I’ve never had this happen with male friends. In my mind, this is what men mean when they say that women don’t want men to be vulnerable. If women really wanted men to be vu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/25 07:52 PM
1	Redpillers think that women in the past were perfect, but they often just hid it better I have to ask, but how familiar is your grandpa with what you're dealing with now? Cause even my parents can't really fathom what I'm currently dealing with today.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/25 04:43 AM
81	Do men see women as "expired" after 25 now? No. The theory of the wall is old, but 25 number itself came from a phrase in Japan. In Japan, as a part of celebrating Christmas, people would buy cakes. I don’t know how this came about, but the term “Christmas cake” became prevalent for an unmarried woman above 25. The reason being: “No matter how nice the cake is, no one wants it after 25.” The number 25 is specific to Japanese culture. It’s not some widespread thing suddenly	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 04:36 PM
43	Stop turning your dates into interviews That’s because people don’t take that advice correctly. What “be yourself” really means is “don’t fake being someone else”. Don’t just invent a cool attractive personality you’re not and pretend to be that. Actually be that cool attractive person.	/r/seduction	31/05/24 07:06 AM
1	Why should a man focus on building up his personality(as long as he has basic social skills) when there are 4 or 5 other factors that are more important to attracting a woman? Because personality is a requisite, but not sufficient. That’s like asking “Why would a car need tires when there are 4 or 5 other factors that are more important?” You’ll never buy a car because it has good tires, but would you ever buy a car without tires?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 12:36 AM
1	Do you think most men don’t have a type ? A type gives a bump. It’ll turn a 9 into a 10. It won’t turn a 2 into an 8	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 05:48 AM
3	Q4M: Could you be with a woman who doesn't make you laugh? It may be to some people, but it’s not important enough for most people that they will automatically disqualify a woman when she checks so many other boxes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/24 07:11 AM
0	Q4W: For those who have experienced this - why do males approach less nowadays? machines Do you even lift?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/23 09:11 PM
13	Why do single women seem so happy compared to single men? What age range are the single women in your life? Single women that are young have it much easier than single men that are young. If we're getting controversial, I'd say that they have it easier than every other demographic, which is where the "Recruit Difficulty" meme comes from. Generally, as you get older, the trend reverses. Single women that are old tend to be much less happy than the single men of the same age range. Generally, the trend reverses around the age 35-40, which we would refer …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 05:11 PM
16	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. it’s not women’s fault for being attracted to xyz That’s fine, but then you’ll have men acting in ways that women are attracted to, which is not showing any of the “icks” women have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 10:32 PM
23	Some trends women are involved in on social media contribute directly to toxic masculinity and justifies the manosphere’s existence. It wouldn't be a problem if it was just a single woman, but seemingly hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of women are sharing similar thoughts. Maybe men don't hinge their masculinity on any specific woman being attracted to them, but they do hinge their masculinity on women in general being attracted to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/23 09:49 PM
1	Jobs that are dealbreakers (for me )...what about you? Nurse, flight attendant, any social media job ever, waitress/bartender in a club or strip club, lawyer, and any sex work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/23 08:52 PM
–	Are average men really desperate for sex? It’s not a flex, it’s just a physical reality. Sex is one of the most basic needs, along with food, water, and shelter. The entire reason humans exist is to have sex and procreate, so of course me, being the more aggressive sex, would be willing to die and kill for sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 04:01 AM
2	Question for men who say women are overly shallow - If you genuinely believe that all (or essentially all) women only care about looks, why don't you focus on improving your looks? I don't agree with the premise, but suppose I do: For most people, the level of attractiveness required to be successful with women is unobtainable for the vast majority of men. It's not just about working out and eating well. It's about height, frame, skeletal structure, and natural fat distribution. It doesn't matter how much you work out or diet, after a point, your shoulders won't get any wider. You won't get any taller. Your jaw won't get any wider. At some point your genetics prevent you f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/23 03:36 AM
10	What are some examples of "What society tells you vs. The reality" about gender relationships? “Be yourself” is good advice if you take it the right way. What “be yourself” should actually mean is “don’t lie and pretend to be someone you’re not”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 10:15 PM
7	Dude ghosts girl after first date what can we learn from this? You say that but most of dating and sex isn’t romantic from a male point of view. Romance is something men create for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 03:09 AM
3	Causing arousal isn’t the same thing as causing happiness/enjoyment in a relationship You're right. Arousal is necessary, but not sufficient for a happy relationship. A car needs wheels, but you'd never buy a car just because it has wheels.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 05:46 AM
0	What is red pill, actually? The concept of the red pill has been expanded over the last 10-15 years of use but the most core concepts are these in my opinion: What we tell people, through media, family, and common knowledge, about romance, dating, and mating is not only note true, but most likely the opposite of true. For example, looks absolutely matter in terms of attraction. Money absolutely matters in terms of attraction. There is no such thing as true love. There are many other such pieces of "knowledge" that are simi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 05:42 AM
1	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough It's quite unbelievable to me that you've never seen any of the behaviors I've just listed. First of all, are you a man or a woman? Secondly, what country are you from? Maybe you're from a culture that's different enough that we're talking past each other. Or maybe you've seen these behaviors and just haven't recognized them as such. Or maybe it's some other reason I can't think of.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 06:14 AM
1	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough It's both. Being unreliable is not a good trait in any woman, even one I don't plan on marrying and having children with. The same goes for friendly, feminine, humble, and the other traits that I'd imagine the "cute" girl would have. It's not a guess. BB is by definition someone the woman is not attracted to, whom she uses for resources. But some actions would include demeaning or fighting with her BB in public, talking shit about him behind his back to her friends (sometimes even to strangers),…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 05:52 AM
3	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough That does seem to be what an increasing number of men are doing, yes. There are some men who want kids so badly that they'd bite the bullet, and those men tend to overwhelmingly fall into the BB category in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 05:24 AM
3	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough The difference between these two things is so large that I don't even think they're comparable. In the "cute girl" example, a man is still sexually attracted to his partner. If everything is equal, would he be more sexually attracted to her if she was "sexy"? Sure. But that does not mean that he isn't attracted to the "cute girl". Further, her personality is actively attractive to him. He enjoys her company, wants to be around her, and they have a mutually enjoyable relationship. In the AF/BB ex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 05:20 AM
4	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough There's one big difference between men and women you're not accounting for. Most men, even men who have had sex with the "sexy" women, will still lust after and desire their "cute" girlfriends/wives. The inverse is not true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 05:00 AM
2	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough Because for a significant portion of men, this is the only way available to them if they want to marry and have kids. The inverse is not true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 04:56 AM
262	I think I'm traditional, therefore I am traditional. This is everything wrong with our society. Notice how she said that she changed her ways after coming to America from China. Just a little bit of foreshadowing for all you guys out there who think that the "traditional women" from Asia or anywhere else are all angels.	/r/PussyPassDenied	21/03/23 04:53 PM
1	Can someone explain men who criticise women who sleep around while also being angry they’re not having sex Without commenting on the substance of your post, what's up with your fucked up formatting? You seem to put a random number of line breaks between every sentence. Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 06:25 AM