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I think you’re overestimating how much scorn women have for men’s hobbies. Most women couldn’t care less about men playing video games. Maybe they care if they’re vetting you as a potential partner but in that case it’s more like they’d prefer a partner who does other more social things than just game rather than they hate the gaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:17 AM
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It’s true that most people don’t think too deeply or like to think about the inherent benefits they receive in life and that includes pretty privilege. But I disagree that attractive women think men just do things for them because the world is a good place or they’re so amazing that they deserve good treatment. The world teaches us that women’s value and treatment in society is tied to looks from such a young age that it’s virtually impossible to ignore. Attractive women might think the world is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:10 AM
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It’s not treating them with respect and dignity if the woman openly judges or criticizes the man if he makes less than her. But it’s insane to say that you don’t have respect and dignity for someone if you don’t want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 06:01 PM
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Most reasonable people would say not to continue dating anyone who isn’t reciprocating any effort back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:31 AM
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There’s a significant orgasm gap in straight relationships and a huge orgasm gap in casual sex. In relationships on average women only get off a bit over half the time. With hook ups on average it’s way less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:37 AM
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Which reports are these exactly that show men face more repercussions for being violent in stores and fighting the police?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:37 AM
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And I’ve seen men irl being violent in stores and acting aggressive towards the police with zero repercussions (as long as they’re white). You can find videos on the internet of anything you want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:28 AM
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Exactly. If you’re with a girl and she’s not getting off from anything you’ve done so far in bed it’s basic courtesy to ask her to tell you what she wants, how she gets off and she’ll either tell you so you can satisfy her or she’ll let you know it’s just not gonna happen. I get a lot of people are shit at communication and it can be awkward but I don’t get how someone would rather accept that they’re causing the person their being intimate with and is giving them pleasure to likely feel used an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:00 PM
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Are you a woman? I assume not because you’re overestimating the importance of piv involving a sizable dick in women’s relationship checklists. Sexual satisfaction is a main relationship priority but what’s of most importance to women is whether a man is good in bed in general, including his abilities with sex skills that don’t involve dick. And the priorities that do involve dick are generally good hygiene, not having many issues with erections, and lasting enough but also not too long. Size is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:02 PM
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Is mgtow about men rejecting support networks found through therapy, platonic male friendships, family relationships, or engaging in their community? As far as I’m aware it’s exclusively about avoiding women and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:30 PM
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None as far as I’m aware because she’s the only one who decided to become an author and an activist. There are other notable examples of men with criminal pasts (including convicted murderers) who went on to become political activists though. So the crime to criminal justice advocate path is not entirely uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:27 PM
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It was 7 people who were involved, both men and women. And they had been enlisted to commit the crime by a con man who wanted to get revenge against his partner in crime who had been swindling him out of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:57 PM
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The flaw in that comparison is that violence against any racial group is most likely to be committed by someone of your own race. So it’s considered racist to fear black men because one considers them to be more of a threat, when in reality as a white person you’re actually more likely to be attacked by a white man than a black man. When it comes to gender on the other hand, men and women are both more likely to be attacked by a man. So if a woman says she’s more worried about being attacked by …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:19 AM
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If the point is that at 23 you have to make a lot of money and be ambitious, I don’t agree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:28 AM
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Same for me. I’ve seen a lot of men say that if a woman has a high libido it means she has high testosterone but I don’t believe that’s how it actually works because my hormonal cycles would say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:03 AM
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This girl doesn’t have 2-3 kids though does she?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:48 PM
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It’s actually because they were at risk of going bankrupt due to low memberships and needed the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:26 PM
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My favorite is 12 and I’m surprised it’s not higher because I know for a fact men with that body are not unpopular but I guess you need the whole emo twink vibe to pull it off. 9 is nice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:36 AM
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Pregnancy can cause suffering for anywhere from 2/3rds of a year up to many years after the pregnancy or even permanently depending on how the pregnancy affects the woman’s body. And that outcome isn’t rare. More than a third of women suffer from some kind of long term health effect from pregnancy such as pain during sex, back pain, incontinence, or mental health disorders triggered from pregnancy hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:05 PM
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Yes I agree that’s true for the most part since women tend to put more effort into fostering close relationships and we don’t just automatically have support networks without putting in effort to maintain them. But I think it’s also true that those relationships are still easier for women to find because there’s usually a culture amongst women that’s warmer and more welcoming. Whereas from what I’ve noticed it’s not as easy for an individual man to find emotionally enriching friendships even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 11:19 PM
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I’ve always thought a ONS or hook up is when you sleep with someone once and never again. Casual sex is when it’s an ongoing thing but no relationship. If it started off casual but now it’s not then it’s not casual sex but if it started off as a relationship and now you’re hooking up with an ex then it’s casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 08:07 AM
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I’d still say it’s a privilege to have access to more support networks because it’s something you get without necessarily doing anything yourself. I benefit from these things as a woman even if it’s because of the work other women have done. It makes me roll my eyes though when I see men bringing it up as something that somehow women need to express gratitude for this privilege … to men or that women alone owe it to men to create these resources for them when like you said a lot of social suppor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:44 AM
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Even women who like piv and hate oral don’t automatically prefer a big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:21 AM
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Well yeah that’s why women generally go for relationships or fwbs over a hook up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:46 PM
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That goes in one direction more than the other though. Different pussy might not vary (so much that it makes a huge difference) to men but for women size, how long someone lasts and refractory periods can have an effect on comparability. And that’s not even going into the issue of different sexual preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:27 PM
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Your own source says that the specific group of women who feel positively about casual sex have more satisfaction from it. It’s reasonable to say that this specific group of women benefits from access to casual sex, but that doesn’t translate to women as a whole benefiting from having access to casual sex. It’s not the women who benefit from it who are telling you that women don’t benefit from it, it’s the ones who aren’t benefiting. A certain group of men can easily find casual sex, which means…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 11:23 PM
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If a women is having sex with a man for his money and resources it’s basically an obligation to convince the man she’s loving the sex. That’s part of the sex worker game.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 11:06 PM
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It’s a social norm (in many places) for women to expect men to pay on dates. But that doesn’t mean men consider paying for dates to be a beneficial thing for men. It’s a social norm for men to expect women to do more of the domestic duties. But that doesn’t mean women consider that to be a beneficial thing for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:35 PM
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You assume that following social norms is a positive trait when it can be a neutral or negative quality if the social norms are not beneficial to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:07 PM
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If a guy is always getting called a misogynist and being told that he doesn’t treat women like people then he’s probably not in fact very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 12:36 PM
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Growing up it was mostly adults (sometimes of both genders, but mainly female teachers or mothers) who would push young girls to people please and be nice rather than be honest As someone who’s always been a pretty direct person, I’ve experienced women being put off by other women who don’t follow those social rules, but as an adult it’s more often men who are the ones to overtly shame or insult you for not people pleasing. Whereas a woman who is put off by directness is more likely to just quie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:40 AM
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Partly because men just don’t consider the possibility of ending up in abusive relationships as often as women do even though it happens. Partly because the purpose of a go bag or escape fund is to counteract your partner controlling the household funds which is not typically an abuse tactic used by women. I’ve never heard of women having go bags to escape an emotionally abusive partner who is not a physical threat and doesn’t have control of the finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 10:23 AM
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I have experienced and seen women stepping in and siding with a woman despite not knowing the context, but never a man doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:49 AM
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I don’t understand the target audience of those. Men find them insulting for obvious reasons. Women find them insulting because it perpetuates the unrealistic fantasy of a man having a hot wife/girlfriend who takes care of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:46 AM
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When it comes to appearance, men are usually hottest in their twenties. If you take financial stability and emotional maturity into account, most women prefer a man who’s the same age or slightly older.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:08 AM
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That’s not surprising considering that disorders like ASPD and NPD are associated with being good at superficial charm and being able to manipulate people into liking you. Whereas autism and social anxiety are the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:51 PM
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I can see the point that making fun of men for certain things like being short or balding is often considered more universally acceptable. But you do realize our social media algorithms are based on our viewing habits? If you’re constantly seeing women mocking men’s looks or talking about their preferences in a critical way on tik tok your social media algorithm is curated to show you this content. The more you click on it the more apps feed you the same thing and it leads to a rage bait cycle. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 06:46 PM
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The general consensus in the dating/relationship advice threads I saw was that it’s not wrong for women to join these groups to warn other women about abusive men (although this does bring up the question of whether it’s worth the risk of these groups being used for nefarious purposes) but posting a partner or posting pictures of men women are talking to is asking for those men to not want anything to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:12 PM
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Should men leave their partner if she goes on an "are we dating the swm guy" group? If she’s in a ltr and she’s posting asking if he’s cheating then yeah he has a right to feel hurt and betrayed and break up with her. I recall seeing a bunch of threads about this topic (not on this sub but across reddit) when news of those groups caught on and the general consensus was that these women are shitty people who deserve to get dumped if they do something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:07 PM
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Personally I find it so hot when a man brings data charts into the bedroom to explain my own sexual enjoyment to me. OP really understand what women want because nothing gets me more turned on. You don’t even need the foreplay at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:29 AM
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Or maybe men could ya know, just listen to women about what we want in bed. Oral or fingering is key for some women, for others it’s piv. The reason why many people say to focus on oral and fingering is that it’s more within your control than duration of piv or dick size. But the important thing is to be a considerate sex partner. A woman who gets off lots from oral and fingering is gonna be more sexually pleased than a woman who only gets off some of the time from piv.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:24 AM
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Maybe for men oral is not as important as piv. For some women oral is more important and enjoyable than piv. For some it’s not important at all. It’s gonna vary depending on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:05 AM
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Plenty of women would find it hot as hell if a man just wanted to go down on them and focus on pleasing them. Some women need dick to be satisfied but penetration is not always necessary for amazing sexual experiences. The fact that so many men think that everything should revolve around their dick is why a lot of woman are having terrible sex. Men already often focus more on dick and less on oral and fingers and it’s not exactly effective at producing sexually satisfied women is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:35 AM
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You can be excited about sharing the details of something that you experienced despite not having a good experience overall. No one enjoys bad sex or bad dates but bad sex and bad dates make for fun stories to entertain your friends with. It’s like how even when you see a terrible movie, the acting may have been bad and the plot was boring and you might not have enjoyed the movie itself and would rate it 1 star and would never chose to watch it again in your life, but it still makes for an inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:31 AM
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It’s not about the amount of money, it’s about the balance of contribution. If a woman expects a man to have a similar income as her but she contributes the same or a similar amount financially in the relationship then she’s not a gold digger. If a woman is ok with dating men who make less than her but she expects her partner to always buy her gifts and pay for everything then she’s a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:02 PM
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Yeah the issue with this analogy is that both genders usually prioritize sexual compatibility as important in itself. Very few men or women are going to accept a relationship if they think there’s a low chance the other person will meet about their sexual needs. The analogy does work to a degree even for women seeking casual sex though, women are hoping that the man will care for her sexual needs or else she wouldn’t do it but she’s gonna be picky because the man has to be worth taking on the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:18 PM
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If you really have a vendetta because a stranger asked you to pick up a dropped item or to hold a door open you need help. It isn’t healthy to be this petty. The only thing you mentioned that’s worth being upset over is random women asking you to pay for things. That’s entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:29 PM
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If the issue is that they only do foreplay during the NRE phase and then get lazy then it’s a problem with the men, not a problem with her picking abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:32 AM
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It’s easier in that you have more shared experiences related to gender and it feels like more of an equal playing field. You tend to have less defined roles which most people probably find freeing but some people dislike. Aside from that, it depends on the individual personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:31 AM
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No. Routine can mean less excitement and less sex drive, but anxiety is usually a killer on the sex drive even more. Especially towards the person who’s causing the discomfort. Things that cause positive feelings of excitement reengage the drive. Like going to the gym or losing weight and putting fresh effort into your appearance, spontaneous sexting, trying new things in the bedroom, going on vacation, a change in the scenery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:26 PM
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Which mainstream media are you referring to that says all single or celibate men are pitiful failures or dangerous? As a person who consumes media perhaps we’re looking at different content but I’ve never come across any news stories or professional publications saying these things about single men. The closest I’ve seen to what you’re talking about is random people on the reddit or twitter occasionally grouping in lonely men with sexist manosphere men. Which may be unfair to the men who are dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:07 AM
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No one’s saying that woman chasing men out of their league isn’t a thing that ever happens. They’re saying that women going for men in the same league isn’t some fix all for women’s dating issues like men on here claim it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:22 AM
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I am not sure that being more knowledge per se would improve most men's sexual game. In fact, when we look at anecdotal data, women don't necessarily associate sexual knowledge/technique with good sex. Often they talk about being passionate, the circumstances/romanticness of the situation, having more foreplay, and physical characteristics. Not sure which anecdotes you’re referring to, but when I see most women around me talking about good vs bad sex the focus generally is on the actual physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:51 PM
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Women’s social opportunities are due to the privilege of women having more community amongst the same gender. Doesn’t really have anything to do with men. You could argue that women as a whole reap certain social benefits from men finding women desirable but the idea that men are nice to you just because they want to put their dick in you doesn’t exactly make one feel very loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:21 AM
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Enjoyable sex is a benefit for women. Non enjoyable sex is not a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:55 AM
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Personally having sex without orgasms would not be enjoyable, it would just be frustrating. Do you feel otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:54 AM
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Orgasms may not be necessary to enjoy sex for you but to many people there’s no point in having sex that leaves you unsatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:38 AM
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Ever heard of a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:01 AM
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It’s what has to be done. People really don’t appreciate the sacrifices that must to be made to protect the world from the power of dat ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:57 AM
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It’s because they’re hoes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:13 PM
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Always knew my perfect ass would be the downfall of society but I didn’t know it would happen like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:42 PM
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Sure but if a quarter of the population randomly decides to band together for a cause then it would probably be for a more important issue that needs solved in the world before it would be to fix the problem of “women get more attention than men on dating apps”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:22 AM
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Great idea. I’m sure women will be able to effectively convince all the men who use dating apps and all the men employed in social media related jobs or who use social media to promote their businesses how much of a great idea it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:59 PM
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Both are true, many women think they need to play mother/housekeeper to show value. And a lot of men do unfairly expect women to play that role even if the woman doesn’t want to. Those things feed into each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:20 PM
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Men can change their own behavior if they’re benefiting from an unfair dynamic in a relationship and can avoid dating women who have no job or are much younger if they’re so concerned about unfair power imbalances. What exactly do you expect women in general to do to stop the “injustice” and unfairness of men being thirsty and chasing women? Women already do tell men to stop being so thirsty but women can’t do anything to force men to change their behavior. Men are the sole cause here for this “…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:45 PM
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Which system is this that makes women more valuable and men less valuable and how does it put men into gender roles? I don’t see the issue with women wanting to go to college so they can’t be controlled by men. Are you implying that feminists are plotting to use financial power and authority to control men? If so it’s a pretty ridiculous theory for one thing, and even if it was true that the feminist agenda is for men to have less financial power than women then technically it wouldn’t be enforc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 07:52 PM
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Feminism not helping men go to college is not forcing gender roles against men. Feminists are not preventing men from going to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:34 PM
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Got any evidence to back up these claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:22 PM
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I don’t see how feminism is to blame for greater gender expectations for men when pushing for harsher gender roles on men isn’t a thing in any feminist spaces i’ve seen. At best they’re vocally against unfair gender roles being put on men, at worst they’re neutral in that they think feminism should be focused on women’s issues and men should create their own movement to address their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:00 AM
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I agree overall that external perceptions are a significant factor for why people adapt certain aesthetics. But tbf it’s also possible to genuinely just like the way something looks because “oooh pretty” in a way that’s not connected to external perceptions. Many women for example enjoy wearing cute underwear on a regular basis even if zero people are going to see your underwear and you probably aren’t going to spend much time looking at yourself in your underwear either. But you still buy the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:43 AM
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It makes no sense to boil all of women’s fashion choices down to intrasexual competition for who can best appeal to men’s tastes when a lot of the most popular fashion choices go completely against what appeals to men. That’s OP’s entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:22 AM
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It is interesting to me how women can say don't let the men get you down that even if you are a single mom with 3 kids you can get a rich handsome man Where exactly in this thread are you seeing women saying that a single mom with three kids can get a rich handsome man?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:53 AM
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Both can be true. There are higher social expectations on women than on men when it comes to putting effort into looking nice. But that doesn’t mean every woman who enjoys fashion and beauty is into those things due to social expectations. Some women just like style. And even a woman who’s into fashion isn’t going to respond well to being told by men that she should dress less in a way that she likes and more in a way that men like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:09 AM
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There are a percentage of women who will trade physical attraction for an easier lifestyle where they don’t have to worry about money. But there aren’t as many women who will go for that as there are ones who want a partner she’s attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:18 AM
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If she’s requiring it because she wants to spend his money and not her own then sure she’s a gold digger. If she’s requiring it because she wants to be able to afford a nice place to live and a stable future for her children with both of their combined incomes then it’s not gold digging. It’s mental gymnastics to say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:56 PM
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The only difference is that you think your money entitles you to a make who makes 100k whereas a traditional gold-digger thinks she entitled to it from being hot Wanting to date a man who makes a similar amount of money as you is not any one else’s definition of a gold digger but your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:53 AM
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Some women would consider that reasonable, a lot would think the guy is an idiot who doesn’t understand genetics because unless you know the phenotypes of 4x generations back on both sides it wouldn’t be unusual for a child to come out with darker or lighter features than the parents. Babies are also often born with skin, hair and eyes that change in color as they get older. Unless the kid looks absolutely nothing like either of you, It’s a dumb reason to imply that someone might have cheated. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:37 PM
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Traveling a lot and the baby coming out darker are not good examples of reasons to imply to your wife that you suspect she may have cheated. Those things have nothing to do with her behaving suspiciously so you can ask for a dna test if you want, but you’re also risking blowing up your marriage when she was doing nothing wrong and feels hurt that you don’t trust her. Seeing a raunchy text on her phone from a number you don’t recognize or catching her lying about traveling are more justified reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:54 PM
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The only claim similar to what OP is saying is “RP men are bitter” (which is observably true to anyone who spends more than a minute on this sub and the same men also often turn around and accuse women of being bitter). I haven’t seen people specifically saying that RP men have all been cheated on. And I certainly haven’t seen women ridiculing men for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:27 AM
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Do you have any evidence that they’re the same women? Because from what I’ve seen, the women who are high maintenance are usually well aware that they’re leveraging being the hot trophy gf/wife in exchange for a man who will spend his cash on them. They’re participating in this mutually shallow dynamic purposefully. It’s not usually the same women who are trying to attracted a wholesome man who loves them for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:23 AM
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It would help a lot if feminist women of all age groups could consistently spread the message that women are not interested in men and that it's both acceptable and preferable for most men to be single. Women can’t suggest this without getting a lot of anger and pushback from men. I’ve seen posts on social media suggesting that men develop better social connections with men and stop relying on women to cure their loneliness and the replies are filled with men saying that men men need sex and rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:59 PM
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You’re already also free to say what you want in an anonymous internet comment section without being canceled. No one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:27 PM
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In which way exactly are men being actively decent by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:06 PM
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It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. They don’t fit in with other women, maybe they’ve been ostracized or treated badly by women in the past. And due to these experiences they decide they can’t be friends with women. Then women experience their coldness towards other women so they don’t bother including them or trying to befriend them. And that further cements them feeling ostracized by women. And the cycle repeats. There are plenty of awesome fellow weirdo women to befriend out there. But If you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:26 PM
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What does that have to do with being a single parent? A woman ending the relationship doesn’t mean the man can’t still step up and be involved in parenting his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:55 PM
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Tik tok is bullshit but it’s way closer to real life than Jay z and Beyoncé’s relationship. Most men are not Jay z.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:51 PM
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Especially given that resources for victims are usually catered to women and victimization is higher for women, it would make sense that women are more attuned to sexual aggression and therefore would be more alert about any possibility that she had committed it herself. Meanwhile, men aren't as attuned to victimization resources or information. Kind of like when autism rates go up in a community- is it because more people are getting autism, or autism is easier to diagnose? Could be some of bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:08 PM
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My red flags aren’t about what someone is into but what they aren’t into. I appreciate people who aren’t music snobs and are willing to listen with an open mind. I’m not a fan when people hate on anything that’s outside mainstream pop or hip hop or country nor am I a fan of people who hate on anything just because it’s mainstream. Someone I’m with doesn’t have to enjoy every genre under the sun and some stuff I like I know is not to most people’s tastes. I won’t force someone to listen to metalc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:32 AM
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I can handle the no bagpipes before noon rule. But as soon as that clock hits 12:01pm you can be sure I’m blasting the top galacian bagpipe hits for the rest of the day baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:47 AM
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The former. There’s no point in a woman getting a relationship oriented man to commit to her if she’s not physically attracted to him. That’s generally why even a woman who wants a relationship might settle for casual with a man who doesn’t want something serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:52 AM
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If somehow she finds he is switched and she decides to tell him and send him away to an orphanage or something? Her decision. You might respect that it’s her decision but if this happened I’d wager most people would consider it to be pretty heartless. Which makes it not a good argument in favor of proving your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:43 PM
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I don’t understand men who think that being nice is somehow at odds with being dominant in the bedroom. There are plenty of women who like being dominated in a way where their enjoyment and consent is respected. That’s just meeting your partners sexual preferences, there’s nothing disrespectful about that. It’s only not nice if it’s not what the other person wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:17 PM
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They're refusing to be sex objects and being successful at doing so. Phenomenally successful. Depends on the definition of being a sex object and being successful at avoiding it. I still see the majority of women around me struggling to find a partner who actually respects their sexual pleasure and boundaries and doesn’t treat them like an object to a significant degree. Not to mention how much sexual harassment women still deal with from a young age. It may be considered taboo for men to openly…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:30 AM
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I see trans men usually saying that women are more standoffish and they’re more emotionally isolated due to the loss of access to female social connections, but that their interactions with men are overall better after transitioning because they get given more respect and treated like a bro and don’t get harassed or objectified like before. I have seen some trans men saying that they get less sympathy for their problems because men don’t really have a space to talk about their issues and that it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:12 AM
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Young women aren’t real competition for older women in practice because older men might want younger women but the level of desire doesn’t go both ways. Most younger women don’t find significantly older men desirable. This means that older men and younger men both compete for younger women. And older men compete for older women (and vis versa).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:52 AM
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Some conditions are more reasonable than others. “Be kind to me or I won’t love you” and “Spend money on me or I won’t love you” are very different conditions but it doesn’t mean they still aren’t both conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:54 PM
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If you’re pursuing and the other person isn’t offering any signs that they’ll make a good partner or they seem disinterested then you shouldn’t pursue them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:15 PM
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If someone says the bar is low it’s pretty obvious that it’s actions they’re referring to. It makes zero sense for “the bar is low” to mean height or dick size because immutable characteristics are clearly not the kind things one can “raise the bar” to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:00 AM
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Ah ok If he wasn’t trying to go fuck around but just wasn’t sure if he wanted a serious relationship that changes my opinion. I was going off what the other comments were saying because I don’t have tiktok download to watch the actual clip. After seeing the actual quotes though I see your point. It does sound manipulative. I can understand a college aged person doing something immature like that and then growing up and realizing they should have acted differently but the fact that she’s not admi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:01 PM
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The study you’re talking about in fact does say the women were asked about their overall dating history, which for the majority of lesbians in the study included past relationships with men. It also specifies that for bisexual women about 90% of violence they experienced was from men and about 10% was from women. It is true that lesbians have higher divorce rates than gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:55 PM
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Same for me. I couldn’t care less about “above and beyond”. Reciprocal energy (without needing a reminder) when it comes to being considerate towards me and my needs is what I want. Grand gestures are nice but it’s meaningless if they can’t keep up with the regular day to day actions. The extravagant stuff is the kind of consideration that can be more easily faked. The equal effort on a daily basis is more a sign to me of someone being genuinely considerate because it’s the effort that’s constan…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:27 PM
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They’re both quite immature. She should have just moved on when he said he was going to see other people. But it was him who didn’t want to be exclusive in the first place so he doesn’t exactly have the high ground to take offense about her dating other people. Isn’t dread game when you try to make your long term partner jealous by flirting with other people? Which is definitely not remotely the same and way more messed up because it’s being done to an already committed partner. I guess both of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:46 PM
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Feminine traits being idealized in an education environment doesn’t clash with the idea that femininity is considered lesser to masculinity. In school students are reprimanded for not possessing feminine traits such as obedience towards authority figures, who are supposed to be given respect. It’s more of an example of femininity being valued as a means of getting someone to submit. Not an example of feminine traits being considered themselves above the masculine ones and more worthy of being re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:10 PM
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Women can be dangerous. But it’s still highly unlikely for a woman to commit violence against a stranger in comparison to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:41 AM
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If someone’s pussy smells repugnant then that’s not normal odor. Normal odor is a very mild musky/earthy odor, not a repugnant odor. It’s not necessary to ever rinse in the actual vagina to not smell repugnant or to be clean. As someone’s who bi honestly idk how someone’s who’s attracted to women can in any way find normal pussy smell repugnant. Maybe it’s the pheromones but that shit is hot. It’s not remotely comparable to any other kind of body odor. And if someone does have a repugnant unwash…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:47 PM
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I’m not saying men should put up with coochie that smells like a fish market. If you read what I wrote, I said strong or offensive odor is not normal and hygienic but that clean and healthy coochie still isn’t 100% odorless and tasteless. The study you linked even says that rinsing the inside of the vagina is specifically for resolving strong and abnormal odor issues. If you don’t have strong and abnormal odor issues then washing the outside is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:49 AM
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Idk if this whole comment is just trolling but ya know what happens when you put soap inside the lady cave? That’s how you end up with chronic infections, itching, long term odor issues and other health problems including a risk of infertility. Pls do not suggest to any woman that she should put soap inside her kitty cat. It’s not just a bad idea but can cause permanent damage to her health. The outside bits can be washed but soap should not go inside. That’s not a message from the patriarchy, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:49 PM
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That’s still more of the male mindset than the objective one. A man might view himself having value to mean competing with men and having more than what they have. But a woman might view herself having value as simply being sexually desirable and/or being able to achieve what she wants irrespective of what other people have achieved. Men on here often say that woman have inherent value, so is a woman wrong to view herself as having inherent value due to men finding her sexually desirable while a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:51 AM
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It’s moreso that women aren’t looking at it like it’s some kind of competition. It’s more simple. Did I have a positive experience = a win. Did I have a bad experience = not a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:45 AM
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You said that men may choose to date older women because younger women are harder to deal with. If he’s choosing to date older for that reason then that would mean he considers older women the less miserable option or else he wouldn’t be dating them. And If a man is choosing the older women over being single because that’s his only option then he’s still less miserable than he would be being single. So assuming the woman treats him well, he should probably learn to be appreciative that she’s sav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:42 AM
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I don’t feel that way as I don’t find her attractive. I’m just mentioning the reason I’ve heard people say they find her hot. Even without makeup artists and fashion consultants she’s still objectively (as objective as attraction can be) a very attractive woman though who’s attractiveness gets a major boost due to her image.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:32 AM
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A lot of famous women are super hot but they’re hot in such a generic predictable way that it’s kind of boring. Let’s be real if I met a woman in the wild who looked like Margot Robbie and was into me it’s not like I’d be turning her down. But there’s just something about women who are cute but have more unique features that gives them more charm than someone who looks like a generic hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:58 AM
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That seems to be a big reason for her appeal. She’s hot but she’s relatable hot. Girl next door hot, not insta model hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:48 AM
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It’s not manipulation if they have no manipulative intent and are just being honest that oral is important for them to enjoy a sexual encounter but they’ll graciously accept if it’s a no and move on to find someone else who’s willing to offer oral.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:02 AM
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I’m sorry if stating facts hurts your feelings but it’s true that men want to date more than women. This is is backed up by data from pew research institute. Men are far more likely than women to be on the dating market: 61% of single men say they are currently looking for a relationship or dates, compared with 38% of single women. Now let’s see the source for your statement that a lot of women end up as bitter cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:05 AM
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Tbf, it’s true that men have more to lose if men want relationships/sex/dates with women more than the other way around and more women choose to be alone. I’ve seen those posts and yes they aren’t directly responding to a specific man saying that directly to them, but in the post they’re directly referencing how their thoughts are in response to men saying that women will die alone with cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:56 AM
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Ha I opened this thread with the exact same response in mind and your comment was immediately the first one I read.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:22 AM
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Depends on the type of bad treatment we’re talking about. There are women who always attract men who are emotionally unavailable or ones they think they can fix and it’s often a red flag that they have bad taste in men. Women who put up with bad treatment for months or years usually have issues with boundaries. It’s not necessarily a red flag of them being a bad partner. But it is a red flag they might be a bad communicator or have low self respect. On the other hand, women can also end up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:58 AM
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So If a man chooses to date the younger women she’s too much work and he’s gonna be miserable. And if he chooses to date the older women then he’s gonna be miserable because he’s not attracted to her. And if he chooses to be single then he’s also gonna be miserable. Sounds like he’ll be miserable no matter what so it doesn’t matter what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:57 AM
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I do see women pointing out that women are happier being single. But I don’t see how it’s a revenge fantasy or a power play against men. It may be an exaggeration to say that women are happier being single. It’s likely more accurate to say that women are happier in a good relationship but women are happier single than in a bad relationship. It’s more of a response to men saying that women will die alone with cats than a power trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:42 AM
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I see women more often saying that women are willing to accept being single and that men should take note and learn to be happy without relying on women. It’s usually men who then argue that men are not happy being single and need a woman. I don’t see the power trip there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:20 AM
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Who’s miserable in this instance? You said men date older women because the relationship is easier so if it’s a good relationship then why would he be miserable? Or why would the woman be miserable if she got the relationship she wanted and the man is a good partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:06 AM
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Your theory that women face a steeper decline with age compared to men makes zero sense because women are in fact the gender who live longer and have less health issues as they age. The effects of testosterone alone are harder on your system (particularly the heart) than estrogen. Men potentially also deal with sexual functioning issues (ED) with age. And younger women have high rates of mental health issues and depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:02 AM
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Ok there we go, that data backs up your point that single women have higher rates of depression better than the first study. It is interesting how the other studies cited found relationship quality to make a significant difference in those results while this study didn’t have the same findings. Also you might wanna learn to chill out. There’s no need to be so dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:33 PM
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I’m not shifting the goalposts and I’m not ignoring the data. I’m pointing out that the data does not support your claim that women who don’t date are miserable. The study shows that it’s the period of time and events revolving around a break up or divorce which correlate with higher antidepressant use, not being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:15 AM
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People are allowed to feel jealous. But if a woman expects that a man spend money on her equivalent to what he spent on other women in the past so she doesn’t feel undesirable then she sounds very entitled and like she views men as a wallet and not a partner. I would recommend that men avoid a woman like that if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:26 AM
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If a guy is eager to kiss or fuck on a first date, why not just give him what he wants? If he sticks around after, it'd cement his position of being LTR material. Because it’s not just about what he wants but what she wants. If she’s looking for a hook up and they’re both down then they’ll hook up. If she’s (or he’s) not looking for a hook up then it won’t happen. Why is she not wanting it? Maybe it’s because she’s at a point in her cycle where she’s not that horny due to hormones. Maybe she enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:58 PM
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Do men really get trash talked by random women when they’re just walking around going about their day in public? Genuinely asking because I wasn’t aware that was a thing that happened. I thought men mostly got harassed randomly by other men. I’m not terrified of men in public but I am wary of random men I don’t know because I have been touched inappropriately in public before, and I know other women who’ve been sexually assaulted on public transit, at concerts...etc. And it’s not just the catcal…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:25 PM
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She said that she found a great guy and they’re in a happy relationship together. So why would she not believe something that has in fact proven to be her reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:36 AM
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Most random men are not the problem, but enough random men make women feel unsafe by sexually harassing us in public that it’s a real problem for women. We aren’t feeling unsafe in public around random men due to tales of men throughout history causing harm to women, it’s generally due to our own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:33 AM
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The fact that you think that anyone who doesn’t share your own ideology are all saying the exact same thing is prime evidence of biased thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:18 AM
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Most bluepill posters don’t actually identify with any specific ideology which means they tend to be more neutral and less biased. RP/BP due to their ideology tend to be more extremist. If you can’t see that then it sounds like you’re the one who has the bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:13 AM
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I would consider these things to be disrespectful behaviors if the woman would clearly see an issue with her man doing these things but thinks it’s ok for her to do them. If she just doesn’t see these them as a problem for anyone to do then it’s more of an issue of two people having very different ideas of what’s acceptable and being incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:33 AM
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She never said that. “Bluepill” isn’t even a specific ideology to do with supporting women, you just made that up. On this sub it appears to just be a term for people who aren’t RP/BP. Which means that yes, BP tends to be normal and generally not unhinged people if you compare to RP/BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:09 PM
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If someone said they don’t do casual then the only assumption I would make is they don’t currently do it in that general point in their life. I wouldn’t assume they actually mean they’ve never done it ever even once if that’s not what they said. If I say I don’t eat a certain food then I obviously mean that I don’t currently eat it in that general time frame of my life. Maybe I’ve never eaten it. Maybe I used to eat it and now it gives me the shits. But If someone said I actually said that I’ve …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:27 PM
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Reread the article. That data doesn’t show that women are far more miserable being single. In fact, it shows more evidence to back up that trying to make an unhappy relationship work causes more suffering than being single. It talks about antidepressant use particularly in the time leading up to divorce or a break up. It also mentions financial stress as a possible contributor for women in particular due to women having worse financial outcomes post divorce than men. And it shows that it’s men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:12 PM
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Why would someone not want to defend themselves when people are unfairly judging them? “I LOVE people judging me for living my life the way that brings me joy and doesn’t harm another person. Please feel free to judge me” said no one ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:58 PM
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What is it with men and insisting they’re the only ones who can experience being horny. Stop trying to gatekeep horniness bro. It’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:31 PM
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The first two acts are minor escalations. The second two acts are much bigger escalations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:51 PM
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It’s definitely not the best analogy to what being objectified sexually entails. I agree that it’s not the same as sexual objectification. I used the term for convenience in this context to compare what men are mainly valued for compared to what women are mainly valued for in society. My point is that being considered a sex object gives you inherent “value” but is also disempowering because it’s a form of objectification that’s tied into your existence. It’s not a form of being valued that gives…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:03 AM
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What are we defining as simping? If being nice to women meant that women were to turn around and award those men with sexual pleasure then that would be a pretty sweet world for men to live in. If women lived in a world where women could just be nice to a man she liked and he would offer to please her sexually then that would be a pretty awesome deal for women as well. We’d all be busy having a ton of sex and there would be no time to engage in war and it would be peace on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:00 PM
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I’m referring to feminists who were anti-war. The women lead by an admiral of the navy to hand out white feathers during wwii were obviously not anti war which means they were not the same group as the women advocating to oppose the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:28 PM
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There’s a pretty long history of feminists advocating to abolish the draft. And I’ve seen all of the above issues discussed online in feminist spaces with varying opinions. Some in support of paper abortion, some who don’t support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:11 AM
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None of that negates what I’m arguing. I already said that you’re allowed to feel how you want about someone’s past. Someone’s past is a part of them, it’s not irrelevant to whether you find them attractive. The thing I disagree with is that someone’s number of past sex partners is some objective metric for their character in relationships. If it was really about what their past says about their relationship behavior then a woman who has has slept around when single but who has been in only very…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:26 PM
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I’m not even opposed to the idea of paternity tests but if a man asks for a paternity test and the woman is upset then that’s not the woman feeling insecure, that’s her feeling hurt due to being accused of potentially having cheated. In the scenario where the man is bothered by his partner’s sexual history, what exactly is the man being accused of having done to feel hurt by?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:12 AM
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You don’t have to like someone’s past or date them but realistically if someone has had sex with numerous past partners but has never cheated then the only thing it suggests is that they might seek out more sex partners again should the relationship end. And if they return to doing that then it shouldn’t matter to you because you’re broken up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:34 AM
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I agree men are judged more harshly by society for being unemployed, broke or unsuccessful. Women are judged for those things too but not to the same degree. Although individual situations vary. Some women have family who put high expectations for achievement on them while the boys get doted on no matter what they do. Some women only want to be friends with other women who have similar lifestyles. When people talk about patriarchy it doesn’t mean that men all have easy lives or that women only h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:38 AM
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Women don’t get taught that men are more emotional so you should be more understanding of their emotions. But women do get taught to cater to men’s feelings and men’s happiness in many situations and to hold themselves to a higher standard of selflessness while being understanding of men being not being as thoughtful. For example, many women were raised to jump up and start cleaning after a get together at someone’s house and to be understanding and not upset when men go off to enjoy themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:26 PM
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That’s the level of critical thinking skills you end up with when you revolve all your thought processes around finding examples that fit into your preconceived ideology rather than making judgements based on actual logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:02 AM
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I don’t personally find white men more attractive than other races, but he’s got a good mixture of more feminine and youthful features and more masculine ones (smaller nose, no signs of aging, good jawline), a combination that a lot of women like. He might be too young looking for other women’s tastes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:05 AM
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Haha, why am I not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:26 AM
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Looks like a conventionally attractive but overweight woman. So above average. But it’s interesting that it gives you a woman who’s overweight and not a man who’s overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:02 AM
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This guy looks slightly above average to me. There’s definitely plenty of men who look like him out there but I’m pretty picky about men and generally find more women attractive and I still think he’s cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:11 PM
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That’s a good take. I’d also add that to make this scenario more realistic OP would also have to add the caveat that men now have virtually unlimited sexual options but in addition to the higher physical risks, only a certain percentage of these options are interested in your sexual pleasure/satisfaction and you have to figure out through trial and error which are the good options (while also dealing with pregnancy/physical safety risks). This is kind of similar to what’s already been said but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:33 PM
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So you’re saying that in order to be great catches and worthy of dating that women should pay off their debts and put more effort into becoming more powerful and ambitious?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:21 AM
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Where is it showing men are dating “casually”. These men are not having sex or dating and that’s stated within the article. The article says 60% of men are single. The article also says that about 30% of men in 2019 were not having sex. That means a good portion of men are likely dating casually and having sex but are not in an official relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:51 PM
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If a woman considers a guy good for casual sex but not for a relationship it’s not usually because he’s not attractive enough to want to date, but because of some personality flaw or incompatibility. Unless you’re talking about a woman going out and having a ONS, in which case sometimes it’s just about being horny and whoever approaches her/she approaches will do and there’s not any reason to keep in contact afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:54 PM
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Do you have a link to these studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:25 PM
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Do you have a link to the study that cites these numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:33 PM
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lmao “mass anecdotal evidence” is not statistics 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:33 PM
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Do you have any examples of women saying this? If it’s a popular praised idea in public discourse then I assume it will be very quick and easy to pull up some evidence to back up your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:18 AM
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I haven’t come across any public discourse, anywhere, even one single time where a woman is arguing that even when a man is willing to do those things for you that it’s oppressive for women to have to do those things for him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:12 AM
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Who exactly are these women you’re describing who think it’s bullshit to have to consider their partner’s sexual needs and do chores? Those are basic things. I haven’t met any women who think they don’t have to offer those things because they’re an empowered modern women. Hell, there are a lot more men who have that kind of attitude that having a good job should be sufficient enough and anything else is an unreasonable request than there are women. Women just want a man who is willing to do thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:02 AM
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This is true for some of the aesthetic choices women make, considering men are a part of society and their opinions have an impact on what women do. Some women may choose to remove their body hair or to not get a short hair cut based on men finding those choices unattractive. But it’s offbase to say that women’s ideas about what’s attractive are all based on validation from men. There are many aesthetic choices women make where men make it very clear that they find those things unattractive and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:31 AM
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I don’t usually wear makeup when just chilling by myself because then I forget to remove it and fall asleep in it. I do like wearing sexy lingerie/robes sometimes and perfume while by myself at home because I like to pretend that I’m a femme fatale in a detective noir film from the 1940s who’s at her vanity spraying perfume on her neck before going to sleep in her silk sheets after she just hung up the rotary phone near her phone table where she discussed tying together the final touches on her …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:26 AM
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Probably mainly for attention. They hope someone will respond and compliment their dick or send nodes back. Or they do it not even for a positive response but for any reaction period and to just make women uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:08 AM
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To gauge his motives and interest I would look at his behavior towards me and make sure we’re meeting each other’s expectations. I don’t care how he treated other people (as long as he didn’t treat them badly), I care how he treats me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:24 AM
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Or spending her 20s getting railed by 6’2 athletic guys with 7 inch dicks causes less potential resentment and dissatisfaction because she’s had her fun and doesn’t feel like she missed out on anything in her youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:33 PM
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What’s in it for the women to go with scenario A vs scenario B was a valid question. You said that it’s better. How is it better for the woman to marry Billy than to have her fun and then marry him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:52 PM
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If a man you were interested in spoiled another girl rotten, but demand you go 50/50, you’d wonder why he’s not generous with you like he was with her and if he tried to lecture you with some nonsense about holding you to a higher standard, you’d say “Fuck that bullshit” and leave. I’m not an entitled person and I believe 50/50 relationship dynamics are the ideal so I would be unbothered by this. Besides the part about the holding you to a higher standard because it’s just a very weird thing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:15 PM
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If a man is genuinely being disrespected then he rightfully should walk away. If he feels that someone not wanting to have sex with him right away is disrespectful then a woman is better off without him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:54 PM
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OP is the guy in this video
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:38 PM
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The woman who partied while young and put marriage on the back burner still has much better odds for a lasting marriage than if she had gotten married while younger. Women who marry young get divorced at very high rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:23 AM
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I agree. I don’t think most women are really upset about being approached in public and find it flattering as long as the man is being polite, even though not all women welcome it. And there are a few who may be genuinely angry or irritated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:12 AM
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How many women have you known who are throwing tantrums and crying because they can’t get a relationship? Sounds more like a revenge fantasy than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:59 AM
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Don’t think he’s talking about strap ons. And even if you have a huge dick it’s way more reliable and often preferred by women to get off from oral and fingering than penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:22 AM
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The pictures and videos clearly show both men and women at the protest. And nothing in that article says the leader of the protest is a far-left feminist woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:11 AM
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What do you mean? If she’s looking for a relationship and he meets the criteria then her play is probably to try and get into a relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:28 AM
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I’m not saying your friends are secret abusers. I’m just saying you never know how someone acts in a relationship based on how they act around their friends. Applies to women as well. It’s not as likely they’re secretly abusive as much as they likely have subconscious beliefs about gender roles due to society and how they were raised that may make them a bad partner. There are men who make good partners. But there are also a lot of men who say they’ll do anything for a partner but in practice th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:40 PM
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Just because the men you know aren’t going around openly saying sexist things doesn’t mean they’re perfect relationship partners. It’s not uncommon for women to have stories of men who end up being bad partners in a relationship and treating the unfairly but are kind and respectful to people publicly. There are even openly feminist men who subconsciously expect their partners to abide by unfair gender roles or turn out to be sexual predators/abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:23 PM
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If men assume that every women has a long list of casual partners then that’s on men, not on women. It’s just not based in reality. Most people aren’t going around being all that promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:57 PM
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The woman is just horny, she’s not looking for a relationship, doesn’t deem the guy relationship material because he’s hot but doesn’t meet other standards like he doesn’t have a job, she doesn’t trust him to be faithful or a good partner...etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:54 PM
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What they call emotional labour is really the inability to deal with the disappointment of a man not doing all the administrative duties that she expects him to do; reasons be damned, and parity be double damned. If a couple is young and don’t have kids then this can be true. There are women who are overly neurotic and want to control everything when their partner is more chill and doesn’t care about planning. But if you have kids then this point goes out the window. When you have a family there…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:26 PM
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I’m sure there are some women who use it to shame men for their preferences. But saying the body positivity movement was directed towards men to influence their preferences is a delusional conspiracy take. If it was really a campaign meant to influence men then the target of the movement would be on porn, advertising and media meant for men. But the focus of the movement in actuality was largely directed towards women’s fashion brands and media consumed by women. The only criticism towards adver…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:55 PM
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Which things specifically do you think men don’t get enough recognition for in comparison to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:05 PM
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Men are certainly much easier to attract and women require more work. I definitely wouldn’t say men treat you more like a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:42 AM
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Gay women mainly complain about finding a partner amongst all the flakiness and no one wanting to make the first move. Gay men mainly complain about being lonely, not being able to find men who want actual relationships rather than sex and dealing with overly aggressive and disrespectful sexual behavior (particularly on dating apps).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:40 AM
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Definitely not looking to date someone who’s like my parents. I just mean the way I was raised likely has an influence on certain standards I have. Looking for a compatible partner who’s traits are complimentary with yours works out well when you both have roles that take both people’s preferences into consideration, like if one person in a relationship loves an early start to their day so they get up early to make breakfast and the other has more free time after work and more energy at night so…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:22 AM
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Eh even if a man offered all those things then I still wouldn’t want to live with him if he made me do most of the cleaning. I hate cleaning. Especially washing the floors and doing the dishes. I’ll jump at the opportunity to do all the cooking and take on a lot of duties in exchange for a partner who’s happy to take over the dish washing. I don’t have a huge list of expectations and I don’t expect any traditionally masculine roles from men but of the expectations I do have, cleaning is one that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:42 PM
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Not the person you asked but as someone who would also expect a partner to pull their weight in the household, I wouldn’t take into consideration that they have different talents if said talents don’t contribute enough on a daily basis to make up for the lack of regular chores not being done. But I would be ok with this arrangement if their talents include hiring someone to clean so neither of us have to. Alternatively, it’s fine if they’re not the best at cleaning so long as they still clean al…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:22 PM
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I like the same type and have the same issues haha. I like men who have more feminine personality traits but god damn I need my space.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:08 PM
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Women aren’t having trouble understanding that older men find younger women to be more attractive. That understanding is part of why it comes off as gross when much older men hit on you. Nothing wrong with shooting your shot of course but a lot of these types of men have this sense of entitlement that you should be into them solely because they think younger women are attractive, they don’t give a fuck that younger women generally also find younger men more attractive. Sometimes they lecture you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:23 PM
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It probably depends on the person. I’ve never been pregnant but from what I’ve heard, it seems that for some there’s no change, for some their sex drive goes up permanently and others lose it and it takes multiple years to come back or doesn’t goes back to normal. But yeah if the relationship has sex problems then both people should try and work it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:08 PM
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Uh no. If you want casual sex and don’t want relationships treat people with compassion and respect, just refuse any offers you get to get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:24 PM
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That makes some degree of sense. But expecting sex to stay consistent after you have a baby doesn’t sound realistic. I don’t think there’s any scenario where having kids isn’t highly likely to impact your sex life. Especially for women due to hormonal changes having the potential to kill the sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:20 PM
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Stop I can only get so horny
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:28 PM
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What do u mean, crocs are PEAK fashion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:15 PM
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From the times I’ve come across FDS I’ve noticed a trend that the women on there were huge doormats towards men in their past relationships. Raising your standards in their case is decent advice. But the big issue with their vetting strategies even if they do raise their standards is that they seem to want conventionally masculine “high value” provider types while also wanting the benefits of a more equal relationship and that type of man is basically a unicorn. They criticize bisexual men, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:29 PM
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I think the opposite would actually be more likely to happen, men would be more invested in relationships. If you look at older men and women where there’s less of a sex drive gap between genders, older men are significantly less interested in chasing hot women to try and hook up and are more likely to invest their time into looking for a stable committed relationship. They might expect more maturity from women and be pickier when it comes to personality and behavior (unlike a younger and hornie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:55 PM
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Since having less body hair is the natural state of femininity then it would make sense for women’s natural lower amount of body hair to be the most attractive to men, rather than extremely hairy or completely hairless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:03 PM
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Probably because those men care about protecting their status, which means dating a woman who is of similar status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:14 PM
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We’re going by different definitions but you’re not more correct than I am. The dictionary definition includes both definitions: 1: Sexually motivated phenomena or behavior 2: Sexual intercourse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:24 PM
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We define sex differently then. And doesn’t change the fact that lesbians are having more enjoyable “fake” sex than straight women are having “real” sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:18 PM
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Ok? What would define real lesbian sex to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:40 PM
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This is whole discussion is stupid. First, women in general have no issues with this kind of situation if you are doing your job as a man well. If your wife/partner/whatever is complaining about this, it indicates low attraction. I've seen women fuck a guy they like in a pile of trash... like a literal pile of trash. Depends on what you mean by the man doing his job well. There are women who are happy to bang a lot if a man is doing his job in bed and providing good sex. There are women who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:54 PM
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I can certainly believe that women exist who have huge social lives and 80,000 hobbies. I never said otherwise. There are women like that. There are women who have absolutely no social life. And there are women in between both those extremes. Tbf the women who don’t have huge social lives are usually more likely to not be dating than the major extroverts, so it is possible you just don’t encounter them. Most people are gonna have less encounters with introverts and homebodies of the opposite sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:16 PM
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I couldn’t care less about status either. Some women don’t care, some women do. There are enough women who do like to be in proximity to men with status that those men likely have more dating options. But status for the sake of status aside, the bigger a man’s social circle is the more women he’ll meet who might be into him since women usually feel safer being involved with a man who’s known to them through friends compared to a man who’s a complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:06 PM
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Teenage girls can be mean to each other, news at 11. Have you considered that women are agreeing with the posts they agree with and aren’t admitting an OP is right about something because they just don’t agree that it is right? Just like what men do? And there are a lot of unhinged out of touch takes on here that of course women aren’t going to agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:55 PM
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Lower income women certainly aren’t going on vacations and spending money we don’t have 24/7. Maybe this depends on the people you know and the age demographic because I’ve known a lot of women who don’t go out much and are at home or going to a show or event occasionally when they’re not working or in school. Most women I know don’t go out to bars or parties or on vacations regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:37 PM
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If the guy is a fuckboy and the girl is a fuckgirl, meaning both only want sex but neither wants a relationship then both are just fucking around and no one’s really being used for sex. In the bangmaid situation, the woman assumedly wants more than to be treated like her purpose is to meet his sexual needs and do his laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:25 PM
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Sounds like a specific type of very hot or upper income bracket woman who are expecting that. I would assume a man in that position could choose to date a lower maintenance woman but he’s choosing the ig models rather than those women, no? Although maybe if you make enough money the people you attract are the types who want to benefit from your lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:52 PM
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That may be true for older men or men in upper income brackets. But for most, multiple vacations per year and constant shopping in this economy??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:31 PM
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Judges do allow that, but typically if both parents seek custody they’ll both be granted it because they usually consider it optimal to have both parents involved rather than custody being given to one parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:24 PM
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Usually oral and fingering are the main acts that define your typical lesbian sex. Scissoring, strap ons, and toys are more extras you do when you’re in the mood for them but they’re not included every time unless one or both person really loves those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:15 PM
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If women lived in a world where men were offering free sexual satisfaction all the time then women would probably be having a lot more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:06 PM
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Men might ask for free oral and sex from women all the time, men don’t necessarily go around offering these things to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 12:23 PM
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I don’t remember which posts these were on so I don’t have any links but I’ve seen a few comments from certain users randomly bringing up stats on crime by race when it was not directly relevant to the conversation (seemingly to imply that if women are worried about danger women should be wary of certain ethnicities). I also recently saw a comment about a gang rape in some European country and someone replied about how they could take a guess of the ethnicities of the men who were guilty of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:16 PM
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Can men not lead if men aren’t offering women free oral all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:47 AM
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I would love to live in this made up universe OP thinks we live in where women pay no bills and get free food and head all the time whenever we want it. Sign me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:44 AM
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I’d like to see links to studies that show women are less open to unpopular ideas. Women do tend to care more about being agreeable, but that aspect of psychology seems to be more about women caring about being the one to conform and act agreeable towards others more than men do, not about women being more likely than men to expect others to conform to their own beliefs. I don’t think men are actually more likely to be open to differing views than women. There’s probably much more of an individu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:07 AM
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The things that were said which men were offended by where just facts about women’s experiences with men (such as saying that most women have experience sexual harassment or assault when it was relevant to the conversation). Clearly men have perceived that as offensive and sexist but unless you consider stating facts to be sexist to men then I haven’t said anything that was a sexist to men. Men experiencing assault or abuse from women too has also come up (sometimes brought up by men and sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:23 AM
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That sentence is still not contradictory. It was possible for women to open bank accounts as early as the 1960s. It wasn’t until 1974 when banks had to allow women to do all those things without requiring a husbands signature. And lmao that’s the opposite of how Oxford commas work. Oxford commas are optional 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:46 AM
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In 1974, women were finally allowed to open bank accounts, apply for credit and commit to a mortgage without needing a male co-signer The comma in this sentence means women were allowed to open a bank account AND apply for credit and a mortgage. Do you understand how grammar works?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:23 AM
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I can see why subs that are primarily for women have to be harsher with the moderation. Reddit is predominantly male so if you don’t have strict moderation, responses from men can easily take over the sub. Which makes a sub meant for discussing women’s issues useless for the purpose it was created for. This is why subs like askmen can allow women to comment more and require less moderation, because even with women commenting those comments never become the majority of replies and so it doesn’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:14 AM
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I comment on Twox occasionally and openly disagreed with women on there before and haven’t ever been aggressively attacked or downvoted. I’ve seen people do the behavior you describe sometimes on that sub but I can’t say it happens any more often than on any other subreddit. I’ve had more extreme reactions and downvotes replying to a comment on askmen and having a slightly different opinion. That kind of dogpilling behavior happens all across reddit when someone disagrees though. Especially on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:44 AM
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In my experience women are also much more closed minded to hearing conflicting ideas. I have met some really cool ladies who are open minded but they're the minority. Closed minded women will literally shut the conversation down as soon as you express a dissenting viewpoint. Whereas most guys I talk to will at least entertain different political ideas even if they don't agree with them and without getting emotional. I think this depends a lot more on whether you’re talking to your own group or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:34 AM
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I searched through the comments on your posts and the only instances I found where someone cites rape stats was when someone else brought up rape or being in a dangerous situation first. And you have numerous posts that are specifically about people being in dangerous scenarios so it makes sense that sexual assault is gong to be brought up in those conversations. I didn’t see any examples of someone bringing it up completely out of context when it’s irrelevant to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:58 AM
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That’s reasonable. I also don’t usually get a long with men (or women) who care a lot about money and status. Artists have their own issues, but I’m much more attracted to that personality type.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:53 AM
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In relationships men don’t value a woman just for her beauty or company either. He also expects her to provide value when it comes to practical benefits (usually what she offers sexually or domestically) or else he likely wouldn’t be with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:51 AM
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Yep. It’s not about competing with women in the workforce and It’s not even necessarily about wanting to abuse women. And sometimes it’s just a matter of preferring a a certain personality type. But many men realize they have less bargaining power over their ideal relationship dynamic when women have higher paying jobs. They prefer the benefits they get from more traditional dynamics and they don’t want to have to put in more effort towards equal domestic stuff or childcare but they realize that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:42 AM
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Happy traditional relationships exist where the man provides and the women is a homemaker. But I don’t think many women would give the same description for the typical Mormon relationship as being all wholesome and happy and loving. Men in religious communities might be happy but women in religious communities tend to end up in a lot of unhappy marriages where they feel like their sole purpose is to fulfill their husbands needs and not have their own met at all. Even if the men work and provide,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:19 AM
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I agree that this is the way to go with more women in high paying jobs. Things would work out fine if there were more men willing to be domestic and take care of the household stuff and there were more women willing to date a man who work part time and make less money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:05 AM
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Women being at work and less available to parent isn’t likely the reason why kids aren’t doing well. There are a ton of changes in society in the past few decades that don’t have anything to do with that. Technology, higher social isolation...etc. Women haven’t just been home all day being a housewife and focusing all their attention on children throughout much of history. Children were fending for themselves or taking care of their siblings and even working while women worked on farms and were …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:56 AM
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I'm married and I'm here analyzing the hypocrisy of women who have casual sex when they are on the same level as a man who hires prostitutes. The issues a lot of people have with sex work is that sex trafficking is an issue and it’s hard to know for sure that the escort you’re hiring isn’t being pushed into doing something she doesn’t want to do for money. In the instance of women having casual sex, both people are in it for the same reason so there’s no risk of sleeping with a man who’s potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:22 AM
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Same for me. I guess some men who visit prostitutes fully believe the women are genuinely into it and there are men who have causal sex and don’t care about the other person’s experience so it’s more complicated than that. But if a man is willing to pay for sexual services it’s an immediate red flag for me on how he views sex. The idea of a man who only cares about having sex and doesn’t care about the woman actually desiring it gives me the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:09 AM
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That’s moreso because people use insults they think will be effective above all else. Women realize that most men won’t feel insulted if you accuse them of having a lot of sex. It’s like how men will insult you if you reject them by calling you a hoe or calling you undesirable even though it’s not logical when they’re the one coming on to you, but they don’t care about being logical they care about what they think will bother women the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:13 AM
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You’re projecting a lot of how sexual functioning works for men onto how it works for women. Just because women primarily orgasm and get pleasure from different sex acts then you do doesn’t mean women aren’t sexual beings. Humans are one of the select species where the females of the species have a sexual drive that is built specifically to seek out pleasure rather than solely for reproductive purposes. If women only had sex purely for reproduction and we were not sexual beings then women would …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 06:06 AM
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Why give oral to your partner if if doesn’t give you an orgasm? Women generally want their partners to enjoy sex too. And unlike with giving oral, if you orgasm before penetration then a lot of women can even get pleasure from or orgasm again from piv.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:54 AM
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You can prioritize that all you want but it’s not like there’s a sure way to know without actually sleeping with someone. Most women probably aren’t gonna stick around for long though if the sex is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:49 AM
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Most women would go for #1 because women are usually far more attracted to a man our own age than someone 20 years older, even if he looks good for his age. Desire is a big component of why you’re interested in dating someone in the first place so giving that up is a pretty huge sacrifice. But there are also women who prioritize financial stability and/or find older men hot so #2 would likely have some women who are also interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:44 AM
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Your husband sounds like me, except I’m a woman. And I don’t have a wife. Or a husband. This reminds me I need to go and get my expired ID renewed at the dmv.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 10:46 AM
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He also had prostate and tongue cancer and had them amputated... You didn’t say anything about a hand amputation. So as long as he’s still got fingers...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 10:27 AM
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I agree that dating tends to be better for women who activate men’s care drives rather than the lust drive. Although it’s not always so simple to do that because personality plays a factor but from what I’ve noticed the care vs lust drive is often a strong assumption based on appearances. Women who look cute and cherubic tend to activate the care drive regardless of their personalities while other women activate the lust drive and get put in the fuckzone just because they have big titties or cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:54 AM
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I can see why there’s not as much advice to men for how to vet women since men often don’t have enough options to vet. But I see men who do have options often failing at vetting and doing the same things they advise women not to do, prioritizing physical attraction over everything else and ignoring red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:34 AM
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I agree. I get a lot of the points in the post but women expecting men to provide financially perpetuates a cycle of women and men justifying pushing the same ol expectations onto each other and it’s toxic. OP is right that women who want egalitarian relationships don’t exactly have a whole lot of options. But attempting to benefit from traditional gender roles cements the dynamics even further and pushes men towards focusing their value on making money which is the opposite thing we want if we’…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:01 AM
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Men on the internet tend to give advice that either mainly benefits men or they give advice with their own gender’s dating problems in mind not realizing that women have different issues. Men often assume dating advice = how to attract a person. But women usually don’t need advice on how to attract or keep a man because attracting or keeping a partner is not the main issue, it’s figuring out how to properly vet men and getting a good compatible partner. Women do something similar when giving men…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:49 AM
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Your advice isn’t bad advice per say but it’s not really good advice for women either. It’s more advice that benefits men. Don’t be afraid to approach men and look for compatibility that goes beyond initial attraction are dating rules I agree with but neither of those recommendations offer any real detailed tips there on how a woman can successfully find a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:20 AM
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You know the personal details of hundred and thousands of women’s relationships? I find that hard to believe. I’m a woman and I don’t even know that information because I don’t go around surveying women about their relationship dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:08 AM
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That’s not the part I disagree with, which is why I didn’t comment on it. And you took zero part of what I said into account in your response so who’s more lacking in reading comprehension here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:08 PM
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Independent woman doesn’t mean a woman who believes in equally paying for dates. There are career women who are still conservative with their beliefs. At least in America, maybe it’s different in other countries. And I don’t know what they go for in reality, but RP men specifically say they don’t find independent career women attractive (while also complaining about women being dependent on them financially).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:05 PM
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What moral system do you think should be the alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:04 AM
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Who’s “we”? Sans extremely illegal behavior, people get away with selfish or assholish behavior all the time. The main thing enforcing people to be decent is personal values.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:02 AM
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I’m not a man who’s dated women so I don’t know for sure but I imagine the kind of women RP men are going for are more likely to be the type of women who lean more traditional and expect men to pay. Not that every feminist/liberal women would offer to pay but the rate of that type believing in 50/50 is likely higher and I doubt most RP men are seeking out dates with women who openly express super progressive or feminist views in their dating app bios. Men who lead with their money or career succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:38 AM
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what do you think are going to be the consequences of threatening every man with a false accusation of it? Is this world where women are going around threatening every man with false rape accusations real or a hypothetical scenario? If it’s not something that’s actually going on then it’s merely a delusion that you made up in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:42 AM
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Bro what kind of fantasy universe are you living in where women are going around just falsely accusing men of rape all day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:18 AM
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I can affirmatively say that there are many, like far too many, genz women who think their mere presence is enough. Your argument is also just “I know a woman”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:36 AM
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I have seen women saying this and it’s not an attitude that I agree with either but tbf it’s usually referring to the initial courting phase or even just the first date. And it’s the same women usually also saying that they end up putting in equal or more effort as things progress. Which is the opposite of OP’s assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:34 AM
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What? Women are having babies more often than men are going to war in most countries
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:28 AM
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Your experiences and other healthcare professionals experiences can both be true since this is likely the kind of thing that varies by location. There are studies that show women’s heart attack symptoms are more likely to go undetected by medical professionals in comparison to men’s. It’s not just something made up by random people in the Reddit comments but a fact that heart attack symptoms have historically been more studied based on men. That doesn’t mean it’s an issue for every single medica…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 03:24 AM
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Yeah, the women who this happens to are generally women who have some kind to proximity to famous people (such as through work or family connections). It has more to do with proximity than with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:14 AM
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You seem very invested in what random people are doing with their buttholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:43 PM
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The father of the child’s not on the hook for child support either in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:03 PM
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It is telling how the RPers replying to this post attempting to refute it are arguing that they like or value femininity, but this discussion isn’t about like or desire but about respect and none are actually willing to say that they respect femininity. It’s proving OP’s point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:53 AM
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I don’t disagree with your point about a lot of the discussions on here. I try to be fair when discussing things with men on here and attempt to see their perspective. But from my experience it usually doesn’t end up worth the effort because even when I include empathy and acknowledgement for their perspective, instead of getting empathy in return the response is usually doubling down and insisting they’re right or anger that I’m not agreeing with their opinion that women’s issues are all exagge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:35 AM
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You're talking about the phenomena that emerge out of biology. Social norms arise from biology's interactions with the selective pressures of an environment. Culture is partially the accumulation of these emergent social norms interacting. The group with more power isn't artificially putting laws into place to maliciously keep women from anything -- it's a natural matter-of-course that these are the sorts of laws that have kept the order of that civilization and ensured its survival. Laws are ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:13 PM
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Uh men do that shit pretty often. I’ve encountered both men and women who act like that. Being a dick and then blaming other people for their behavior. It’s immature at best and abusive at worst but it’s done by both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:46 AM
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It’s ironic that you think women are the ones who rely on emotional bias and men are more rational because this is a hilariously biased take. If you actually listen to any accounts of women who have been cheated on, there’s a shit ton of of men who cheat and upon being found out immediately turn it around and accuse their partner of being to blame for the infidelity and attempt to manipulate her into thinking she’s the one in the wrong for being upset. Plenty of women say they suspected their pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:45 AM
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Talk to any woman who is not afraid of saying no and you'll never hear they've had issues, never been raped, never been hit, never been harassed. Talk to any woman who is afraid of saying no and their life is constant struggle, including from the very thing you people claim they're trying to protect themselves from. This idea that this is useful to women is ridiculous. I actually agree that a lot of women are overly neurotic about saying no in situations where the bigger risk is hurting someone’…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:11 AM
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The origins of patriarchy might be based in biology, but gender dynamic are intertwined with social norms and become influenced by culture over time and lead to the group with more power being able to artificially further the divide between genders. Biology meant it was easier to control women and for men to exert influence but It’s not biology that puts laws into place to prevent women from voting or owning property or opening a back account.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:00 AM
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Women who are in relationships with men for money rather than love are usually prepared to look the other way when their man cheats. That’s essentially a glorified prostitution dynamic. The women aren’t in it for love in the first places so it’s likely they don’t really care about the man’s loyalty. But If we’re going by the logic “don’t be surprised that your partner cheats because they have options”, men can’t expect women to be faithful in relationships considering women likely have options t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:51 AM
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I mean have you seen the attitudes men on here have about women? It’s not exactly the epitome of respect and understanding. I’ll be empathetic and respectful to men as long as they’re empathetic and respectful to me but why would women be kind and respectful to the men who have zero respect for us? You can’t act disrespectful and dismissive and not expect the same energy back. And this is a debate sub. Not a support group for men. Of course the intent of women on here is going to be debating rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:34 AM
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This bear man debate really just makes me realize that a lot of people either lack knowledge about bear behavior or have very different species of bears in mind when answering this question. I grew up hearing how if you encounter a bear in the forest they can be scared away because they generally won’t fuck with humans. Have people not seen those viral videos of tiny house cats chasing bears and the bear being completely terrified and running away into the woods? I’d take my chances with a bear …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:14 AM
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I’m sure there are people out there who do lump those groups in with the general manosphere. But in the vast majority of conversations I’ve seen about healthy non-sexist men’s groups, people are not labeling those kinds of men’s circles as being part of the manosphere. Even on Reddit groups like r/menslib or r/bropill are not at all considered to be part of the manosphere. Not even by the standards of the women in feminists/women’s subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:40 PM
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They might love and promote femininity in women. That doesn’t mean they view it as worthy of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:54 AM
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Did you mean the youngest was 24/25? Because they both have a history of dating younger men and have dated men as young as early/mid twenties but most of their boyfriends are not that young. Madonna’s with a 29 year old right now and Cher’s boyfriend is 37.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 01:05 PM
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It’s pretty ridiculous to accuse women of being evasive when your response to the original comment was also deflection rather than a real response to the point they brought up. You did the exact same behavior that you describe as typical for women to do. Why would someone engage with your question when you yourself say you can’t have a rational discussion with a person who engages in this behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:35 AM
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Being most likely to be assaulted by a man you know doesn’t mean men you picked as partners. Men you know can be friends, acquaintances, relatives and family friends. In fact, acquaintances/friends and family members are the most common relationships between a victim and the perpetrator according to data on sexual assault. And I don’t get your point about women liking men with tattoos. Most people with tattoos aren’t criminals. Plenty of men with tattoos are kind people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:19 AM
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I highly doubt we’ll ever live in a society where it’s normalized for women to just casually have sex for a hundred bucks. There are plenty of women who have been homeless and still never turned to prostitution, not even because of the societal taboo but because for most it’s viscerally gross to have sex with someone you’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:52 AM
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If confidence and value come from putting in effort to achieve a goal then you could argue that a woman gains virility, confidence and formidability from the work she puts into increasing her beauty and her sex appeal to attract the person she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 02:46 PM
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If you want to figure out how to experience pleasure it’s really best to explore on your own first, it’ll probably be easier to get aroused without the added pressure of another person there. You might have to try different things to discover what feels good for you. Don’t be afraid to use that vibrator, it’s a good start. You could find some tutorials for your husband on how to eat pussy, how to finger...etc. but it’ll be a lot easier to figure out how to pleasure yourself first and then incorp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:09 AM
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If you’re choosing to not divorce and you want to improve your situation then first of all, you need to know that experimenting and figuring out what you like on your own doesn’t equal an obligation to immediately start having more sex with your husband. You deserve to take some time to focus on yourself and learn how to orgasm. You can use that time to work on discovering what gives you pleasure. Then once you figure out what works hopefully you can show him how to do it for you. He should want…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:24 AM
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There are overtly toxic men out there but there are also even more men who seem to be decent on a surface level and then turn out to be assholes. Makes sense why women would be encountering a lot of assholes. Men also encounter bad partners who they though were decent at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:36 AM
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You probably aren’t aware when you do meet women in that group because they usually aren’t going around telling their next door neighbors about it, they’re just living their life. But yes I’d classify her in the third group if she has options but is picky. Pickiness can also be a reason why women are in that category and are choosing to not date. You could also possibly classify her as part of the second group if she’s putting herself out there but is getting rejected by the men she’s into.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:05 AM
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We’re talking about at least three separate groups of women here. The women who are dating and having sex (including the single women you slept with who wanted something serious). Then the women who can’t get dates or get rejected by the men they want but they still actively want to date. But both those groups are different from the women the person you’re responding to is referring to, the women who could actively date if they choose to and have options but have opted out of the dating pool com…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:12 AM
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Uhh no it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:07 AM
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Yeah I can see women being turned off by constantly asking for verbal consent. Some women find it hot that you’re asking for consent but others think it means a guy doesn’t posses the ability to read the room and lacks competence. It would definitely be awkward to be asking for consent for every single thing. No one really does that, most people just read body language at that point. Personally I think it’s hot when someone expresses verbal consent in the beginning. The best way to ask for conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:05 AM
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You can be attentive AND be dominant. That’s the gold standard for the kind of sex most women prefer, sex that’s still focused on your partner’s needs but in a way where you’re taking charge. If someone wants it rough and you’re doing something different then it’s not being attentive. Same thing if they like slow lovemaking and you’re being too rough. Being attentive means giving someone the sex they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:01 AM
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That says they aren’t having sex anymore, it doesn’t say anything about manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:00 AM
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If it’s the same behavior from men and women then that’s not women’s behavior, it’s human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:39 PM
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It’s accurate to say that the source of hate from women to other women is often due to jealousy and insecurity. But on the other hand many cases of jealousy and insecurity are only about self hatred and don’t lead to externalizing hate. It’s more common for women to hate on themselves than to hate on other women who have what we don’t. I might be jealous of women who look hotter than I do but I don’t hate them for looking better than me. You don’t necessarily need confidence to realize that drag…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:38 AM
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Jealousy and insecurity can lead to hate, but insecurity and competitiveness doesn’t equal hatred. There’s shit I’m insecure about but I don’t hate women who have traits that I’m jealous of. If they’re a cool person then I’m happy for them. Women aren’t throwing down 10k for new titties or bbls because they hate other women and want them to feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:43 AM
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It’s only cheating in the mind of someone who has massive neuroticism issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:08 AM
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Good on you for reaching out and getting help!! I’m glad you were able to do that and are still here. Depression fucking sucks and admitting that you’re struggling and seeking recovery is so difficult. I hope society as a whole moves more towards mental health struggles being discussed more and being destigmatized, especially when it comes to men’s mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:47 AM
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Where are you getting that she’s withholding sex in order to manipulate him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:13 AM
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Unless they’re actually involved with another person in some way sexually or emotionally, most of the things you listed don’t qualify as any kind of cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:01 AM
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How exactly is any of that specific to women when men also exhibit narcissistic tendencies, seek validation, act hypergamous by leaving their partners for someone younger or hotter, behave irrationally or immaturely? None of those behaviors you listed are exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:51 AM
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Denying your partner what they want is not abuse, unless you’re specifically doing it to manipulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:38 AM
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What? I’ve never heard of that definition of emotional cheating anywhere ever. That’s just being emotionally unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:36 AM
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No one’s obligated to provide you something just because it makes you happy. I wouldn’t want to stay in a marriage or exclusive relationship where I’m not getting my sexual needs met either but obviously you can’t force someone to meet your needs and cheating isn’t ok. A mature adult can end the relationship if they’re unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:35 AM
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What the fuck. That’s not what spousal abuse is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:29 AM
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Except that’s not true because women on average come out of divorce worse off economically than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:34 AM
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I find that cooking for two people is actually less food waste and more cost effective than cooking for just one, assuming the other person is down for eating what you want to cook and it being done on your time. When it comes to cleaning it depends on how much mess the additional person is making. But two people getting things dirty adds more work than you’d think. Even if the other person contributes, if they don’t contribute equally then you’re gonna be doing more dishes and laundry then if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:09 AM
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Yep. Relationships are hard work and if you can get your sexual needs met and have companionship without all the additional stresses of a relationship then for some of us that’s preferable. But as someone who’s very avoidant my needs can be pretty easily met with that kind of dynamic. People with healthier attachment styles require a deeper connection that a long term relationship provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:58 AM
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Emotional investment doesn’t negate the risk for stds or pregnancy. If a person only cares about the enjoyment of the person they’re having sex with and agreeing to use condoms or get tested for their partners physical health because of their own feelings, but they would have no issue treating a partner they didn’t have feelings for badly then do you really want them? Sounds very selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:42 AM
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If it's impossible for you to sit without the whole world finding out what colour of underwear you are wearing, then you definitely are wearing a slutty outfit. So... don’t wear wear any underwear then? Ok got it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:01 AM
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but the time investment does not change. Uhh In which way does it not change then exactly if it’s neither time nor effort you’re referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:56 AM
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In what scenario would the time investment taking care of a toddler be the same as taking care of a 17 year old? Toddlers need constant care. No 17 year old is even going to put up with being hovered over by their parent that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:23 AM
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Sounds insufferable being around someone who’s policing they way you dress and your behavior constantly. And the women who are constantly policing men on their mannerisms or how they dress for being too feminine or gay are also insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:47 AM
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Yeah she should leave if she’s tried to communicate and he’s not willing to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:48 AM
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So when I bring it up, my partner just shrugs it off like it's no big deal. He doesn't understand why I'm making such a fuss over something so small. And honestly, it's frustrating. Can't he see that this is what I need to feel satisfied The issue is that her boyfriend sucks in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:30 AM
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I don’t see where OP is saying that sex should only be about her stimulation and her partner gets nothing. She’s saying exactly what you’re saying about how you would feel disappointed with sex if your stimulation is considered secondary to your partner’s. She wants her stimulation to be considered as part of the main act of sex and not just secondary or optional compared to piv because penetration is not a physical source of pleasure for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:27 AM
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I’ve seen this type of attitude from some women who do sex work. It’s more like a revenge fantasy they have to take advantage the most they can financially out of anger at being objectified or taken advantage of sexually by men in the past though. I’ve never met a woman who has it out for men and wants revenge because she’s bitter about a lack of male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:47 AM
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For me it’s the opposite, it’s not a dealbreaker so I guess it doesn’t qualify as an ick but when a man lifts his arms and has untamed armpit hair it’s a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:14 AM
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I’m not against the argument in favor of financial abortion hypothetically. The main issue I see pragmatically though is that in a world where we remove any incentive for men to be responsible, the burden on women to get men to agree to use protection or to not remove condoms without consent would significantly increase. Considering this is already a problem even when men are on the hook for child support, its reasonable to assume this would get worse if now only women had an inherent incentive …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:00 PM
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Fair enough. But that’s true for the women you’re meeting as well. A lot of women and men these days are pretty socially isolated and don’t date or interact much with the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:06 AM
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Uhhh no
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:37 PM
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You’re right that women don’t handle being alone better than men. Women might handle being single better but that’s because women generally have access to and seek out more community and friendship amongst women, that’s the reason why women are less reliant on relationships and dating to be not lonely. Women would be much lonelier without that. Even if you don’t have close friends it feels good getting attention and compliments from other women when you go out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:50 AM
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It was not what I was implying. We’re taking about being used for sex, not getting attention from people you don’t find attractive. I used offering sexual favors to gay men as an a example because it’s a more realistic option for a man having access to sex that could make him feel desirable but he’s not benefitting sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:38 AM
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I didn’t say anything about looks being the equivalent to a difference in sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:52 AM
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If being desired sucks less than not being desired even when the sexual attention is not ideal then why not go to a gay bar or download grindr? There are plenty of people on there who will happily accept sexual favors from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:20 AM
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Single women don’t handle being single better than men due to an abundance of getting their sexual needs met whenever they want. Trouble with access to having your sexual needs met is often one of the significant reasons why a lot of these women aren’t dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:15 AM
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It’s certainly possible for most women to find a relationship and get taken out on dates. Finding a partner who treats you well and is caring is not so simple. Just because you’re kind and compassionate doesn’t mean you’ll attract the same in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:36 AM
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What exactly is expected of men that means women should do the majority of the chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:45 AM
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If you feel alone in your relationship then you’re probably not being “taken care of”. Plenty of relationships are worse then being alone. Though women wouldn’t fare better being alone if women didn’t have access to the social networks that men lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:44 AM
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Who exactly is expecting men to do the majority of the chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:36 AM
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If you mean that women should do their part in the relationship by working and doing a fair share of chores then yes neither women nor men should complain about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:34 AM
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I agree that men experience worse isolation than women, women tend to have more well developed social circles amongst ourselves than men do. It’s not always easy to find a social group as a woman but it tends to be easier than for men. The part about women having less dating dry spells though is anecdotal, I’ve come across more men who have just got out of a relationship than women but that doesn’t mean men have less dry spells.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:03 AM
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When people say that it still mainly includes attractive or popular women, not just any random women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 11:44 PM
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I guess it depends on whether the dating experiences were good or bad. If they were positive then now you know what you’re missing and you maybe be depressed if you’re alone and can’t replicate the same experience. But if your experiences were bad and you didn’t really have any positive or fun ones then being alone probably feels better and you’re not thinking that you may be missing out on the good things since you haven’t experienced them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 11:32 PM
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What makes you perceive what I said as angry? Sounds like projection. I believe that in an ideal world women should hold ourselves accountable for our own inconsiderate behavior and men should hold themselves accountable for their inconsiderate behavior. I don’t believe women alone should be accountable for fixing men’s inconsiderate behavior any more than I believe men should be held accountable for a woman being inconsiderate or gross. That seems reasonable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:58 AM
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Most people want mutual consideration and care. No one wants a partner who only makes demands on them. But everyone has expectations, unconditional love isn’t a thing in dating. As someone who’s likely neurodivergent and has always been a very direct person I’ve met men who have found it refreshing that I’m straightforward, I still have expectations in dating though like anyone else. Even if they aren’t the same expectations other women might have. I expect reciprocity and care for my needs. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:47 PM
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I’d agree that women can be higher maintenance and are often flakier. Men act a lot more entitled though and tend to have more jealousy issues. There are women who are rude, dramatic, or have personality disorders but men aren’t much different in those areas. Women can expect a lot but they also tend to give a lot more in return compared to men and are more appreciative. I don’t know where you’re getting your information that most bi women say dating women is a pain in the ass and not worth it o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:58 AM
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Men actually love men the way men define love In which way is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:32 AM
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The common experience amongst bi women seems to be that getting interest and dates in the first place with women requires much more work than with men but that the relationship dynamics tend to be better and hence easier in some ways but also sometimes higher maintenance to maintain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:10 AM
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Uh it’s not feminism that created the idea that you shouldn’t stare at women because women don’t like being stared at. It’s basic manners you learn as a child that staring at people is rude. Going up to women and asking for sex isn’t even a point of discussion coming from feminist circles, it’s just generally considered socially impolite behavior unless perhaps you’re in an appropriate setting like a club or bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:25 AM
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The sex workers I’ve meet seem pretty confident about their bodies. I’m sure they have insecurities too but they seem way less insecure than the average woman. What you describe sounds closer to some non sex worker women and their experiences with men rejecting them romantically than the experiences of any sex worker I’ve known. Maybe they do start to objectify men more financially due to the job. But the outlook on men seems to be mostly due to encountering disloyalty. And perhaps because a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:30 AM
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I’ve known a few women who are sex workers and they do seem very jaded about men. Even the attractive ones. A lot of the disgust towards men seems to be from the amount of disloyalty they see. Some of it could be from how hard the hustle can be. It might be a chicken or egg situation when it comes to trauma. Maybe it’s a stereotype that women become strippers due to trauma and daddy issues and I’m sure not all have trauma, but a lot seem to become strippers or do sex work in part due to childhoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:14 AM
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If a man says hey on a dating app and a woman thinks it’s too low effort and doesn’t want to reply she’s free to do so. If a woman says hey on a dating app and you think it’s low effort then you’re also free to ignore her message.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:31 AM
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Why is it on women to hold men accountable to not be gross? Many men will still sleep with a woman they’re into even if shes filthy but most women generally have a higher degree of consideration and still want to impress their dates by being tidy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:22 AM
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I doubt strippers are jaded because of their pick up lines getting rejected lmao. I’d wager it has more to do with having to listen to married men bragging about cheating on their wives and the sexual violence they have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:56 AM
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It depends on what kind of “low effort” they’re complaining about. I’ve seen the complaints you’re talking about from women talking about low effort dates or approaches and I don’t think it’s fair for women to complain about men not putting enough effort into plan dates or asking women out when it’s not like most women are putting in effort to planning and paying for elaborate dates while courting men. On the other hand you have women complaining about a lack of effort from men when it comes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:44 AM
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When you approach a mechanic to get them to fix your car they’re advertising a service and you’re wanting to use their service. The thing that makes this very questionable as to how it relates to approaching women and asking for sex is that women by default are not advertising themselves for sexual services to men. Unless the woman is sex worker. And sex workers who are on the clock aren’t the group complaining about it being objectifying to be approached for sexual services. Of course, just bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:06 AM
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The article is about women having certain financial, careeer, education...etc expectations in a partner which are higher than what’s available in the dating pool. It’s a relatively objective article. I don’t see any part that qualifies as “single 30 year old woman crying over no husband.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:42 AM
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It’s not a cultural topic of debate because it’s already not culturally encouraged to date thugs and ex cons. Women dating men who are considered lower class is generally less admirable to other women than a woman dating up economically. On the other hand up until fairly recently it was potentially considered cool and mature for a younger girl to have an older boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:55 PM
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Uhh which women have you met who approve of their friends dating potentially dangerous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:52 PM
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Maybe they’re more likely to get over the ex because they got all their feelings out and can now move past it. Repressing emotions just makes it rougher to get over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:02 PM
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The people who say that men alone perpetuate women’s beauty standards, people who say that women do these things only for themselves, and the people who say that women alone perpetuate them and men don’t are all wrong. Some things are done by women out of pure artistic or cultural expression, like getting your hair and nails done, fashion, tattoos and piercings, or artistic makeup and hair colors. But when it comes to beauty standards the reason women feel pressure to maintain a certain standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 12:40 PM
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This is not how lesbians relationships work at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 01:32 PM
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The study is based on surveys rather than reported crime so reported crime statistics are irrelevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 01:03 PM
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There are more expectations than just mutual attraction though. You’re expected to meet your partner’s needs and if you fail to uphold your side of the deal then your partner won’t enjoy your company for much longer and will most likely end the relationship. No relationship can be sustained purely on attraction and liking each other’s company.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:20 PM
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All romantic relationships are transactional. Unless they have zero self esteem, no one’s gonna stay with you if your aren’t providing something of value. Even if someone’s not with you for money, being together for the sexual or romantic benefits you provide each other is still a transaction. But I agree that mutual attraction makes for a better relationship dynamic than money for attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:43 AM
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Picking a partner because they’re financially stable isn’t the same as using them for money. Assuming the woman is also financially stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 06:46 AM
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How does that explain all the millions of average men in relationships who are neither hot nor rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:23 AM
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So to rephrase the question in your choice of words, would you be willing to offer sexual favors to a man in exchange for him taking care of everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:55 PM
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If not money then what did you mean by “takes care of everything”?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:36 PM
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Pretty sure women are signing up now and things are more equal, but it doesn’t change the bias in favor of men given how much medical knowledge is based on what’s already been studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:32 PM
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The women I’ve met who have the worst dating lives are the ones who do the most to cater to men. They have too much empathy for men. It’s something I’ve taken note of, to be kind and respectful but to remember not to prioritize men’s happiness over your own and set proper boundaries and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:26 AM
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The world is not designed for men. Our society is gynocentric. Women are rarely considered in studies because women are extremely risk averse and refuse to volunteer to studies. The vast majority of participants are men. You don't like it? Go sign up. This is just factually inaccurate. Women have been purposely excluded in medical research throughout most of history. Women couldn’t just sign up for a study because women weren’t allowed to do so. Even most medical research on lab animals focuses …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:09 AM
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Genuine question. Would you be willing to offer sexual favors to a man in exchange for him paying your bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:45 AM
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13% of the workplace is considered blue collar. Even if that’s mostly men it’s still more men who have non-blue collar jobs than ones who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:17 AM
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Actual facts about the job marketplace don’t say otherwise. There are more tradesmen than tradeswomen but there are more white collar men than tradesmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:01 AM
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Most men in the professional world also have cupcakes and air conditioned office jobs with the weekends off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:54 AM
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The point is that most of the men who believe it’s fair for men to get certain rights because of the positive things men as a collective have contributed to society are the same ones who believe it’s not fair for men be judged as a collective for the bad things men have done in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:32 AM
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Seems pretty obvious which gender is actually enthousiastic about the other gender and which gender seems to be motivated only by the practical benefits that a relationship could bring. Would most men really choose be involved with a woman if she didn’t offer any benefits in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 02:15 AM
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You're incapable of loving a man unless he drastically improves your life. Is this not the point of relationships? No one should be getting into a relationship that doesn’t improve their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:53 PM
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extreme competition, extreme promiscuity, extreme pick-me! behavior, fashion rapidly moves towards more sexualized I believe the other bullet points are mostly true but I’m doubtful about these ones. I’ve never been to any of the the counties you listed but from what I’ve heard they’re pretty traditional. Extreme promiscuity and sexualized fashion don’t seem to be the norm in Eastern European counties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 07:34 AM
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If women are the ones who already put in more effort into looks to begin with to attract a partner but in addition to that effort have to “step it up” even more when there are less men available then how do you figure it’s women who don’t need or care to change and men who have no power? That dynamic sounds like men having much more power of influence in either situation and women are the ones who are expected to compete and make changes to cater to men, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:42 AM
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Solutions to fix parities in education for women are generally rewarded on the basis that women don’t put in less effort than the men. To even be awarded most scholarships you have to put in additional effort to win the scholarship, not less. If girls are putting more effort into schoolwork than boys and the boys are the ones who get extra recess then it’s understandable the girls would view that as unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:47 AM
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Seems like the fair thing to do would be to give the girls extra recess as well. All kids benefit from getting the extra energy out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:36 AM
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Not saying it doesn’t happen but I’ve never seen anyone defend a woman for cheating or blame the guy just because she said she wasn’t getting her needs met in the relationship. I’ve seen female cheaters themselves say that, and maybe their friends will defend them, but everybody else calls bull on it quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:13 AM
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I agree with most of that. If someone’s attracted to you then pandering works and if they’re not it’s not gonna change their mind. In my experience and from what I’ve seen in the dating lives of women around me, there’s a fine line with catering to men even if they do want you. Even when a guy is interested in you seriously if you pander too much and set low expectations for how you expect to be treated then you usually get taken for granted and they become more entitled rather than giving you r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 02:39 AM
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I don’t see older unmarried women getting disrespect. Some might be lonely. But if anything it’s older unmarried men who face more issues getting respect or being accepted into a community when they have no children or family ties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:53 PM
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Pick me’s might not turn off men but pandering attracts the wrong type of man. The women I’ve seen who’s dating tactics are solely about pandering never end up being treated well. Most of the ones I’ve seen who do that are doing it to get in a relationship but they end up being used for sexual favors or domestic stuff and men don’t want to commit to them or give them any decency in return. Maybe men like women who pander but they surely don’t respect them. Men throwing money at women or doing fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:53 PM
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I’ve never seen a woman use the term bangmaid to put down another woman. I’ve only ever heard it used to describe something a woman doesn’t want to be treated as.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 02:11 AM
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Bangmaid generally describes a one way dynamic where the women is expected to cater the relationship around meeting her partners sexual needs and doing all the chores. No one’s saying “he just wants a bang maid” if a guy is looking for a relationship dynamic where both people have a mutually fulfilling sex life and equally share the chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 02:03 AM
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“Pickmes” are closer to the equivalent of “simps”. The asshole men and women get what they want. The simps and pick me’s usually just get used and their own gender dislikes them due to the belief that their behavior creates more entitled people and thus makes dating harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:26 PM
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To a degree. People should communicate clearly but things can always be misinterpreted. Especially if someone wants to confirm their preconceived biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:06 PM
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What is the definition of high value here? If it’s purely about looks then I’ll take the sex. If they don’t like me then we aren’t a good match for anything else anyway. Although it’s a bit confusing the way you described different scenarios depending on gender with the girl offering pity sex compared to the guy not offering pity sex but wanting sex from the girl. I’d accept the offer for sex assuming the person still wants to meet my needs but they just don’t like me as a person. If that’s not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:43 AM
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Why do you not think it’s correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:22 AM
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I’d say men getting mommy treatment is more common because a lot of women are working and paying their own bills while in a relationship but also doing all the domestic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:57 PM
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Why don’t you ask the women who have said this to you what they mean by femininity and wife treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:22 AM
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How exactly is it a double standard? A woman wanting to be treated like a princess isn’t considered a positive thing. Men get told they’re looking for a mommy if they want a woman to take care of them domestically. Women get told they’re a gold digger if they want a man to pay all their bills. Where’s the double standard in women’s favor?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:01 AM
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Yes. But it’s complicated because there are men who seem like douchbags in some ways but are respectful about boundaries and never make you feel unsafe and there are other men who act super kind and sweet but then pull things that make you question your safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:08 PM
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No ones calling men incels for saying women like attractive men. They’re calling them incels for saying that if a man isn’t in the top tier of attractive men then its over for him and he’s doomed to be alone without ever having experienced the touch of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:25 PM
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Some of the women just have commitment issues. Others want something more but choose to continue the situationship because they want the benefits of getting their sexual needs met with someone familiar. These women could end it and find a man who wants a relationship if they really wanted but they don’t want to deal with the risk of putting themselves out there in the dating market. They’d rather play it safe even if they’re aren’t complete happy with the arrangement and would prefer a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:12 PM
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Abusive men don’t necessarily act overtly sexist. A lot of abusers pretend to be very charming and kind in the beginning. Same with cheaters. They can act like very considerate partners until their gf or bf is blindsided by the cheating. And there’s a whole type of man who emphasizes how feminist, socially progressive, etc he is to mask predatory or abusive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 07:26 PM
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Yep. I think it’s because men aren’t prepared to encounter a woman who’s more aloof than they are. The woman has her guard up more because she’s aware of how common it is for men men to be unavailable but men aren’t used to dealing with fuckgirls or women with commitment issues so they don’t know how to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:57 PM
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It’s common that one person leads or is more dominant in a relationship and the other it’s more passive. But lesbian relationship dynamics are not at all the same as heterosexual ones. There are a lot of femmes who take on the more active or stereotypically masculine in the relationship and butches who take on the passive role. Lesbian sexual dynamics are also quite different than straight ones, the pleasure giver is often considered the more masculine/dominant role during sex while the pleasure…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:27 AM
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Exactly how many times have the men you know had this happen to them on a date? Realistically most women aren’t getting murdered on dates but I know a good deal of women who’ve experienced assault or attempted assaulted while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:03 PM
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Nothing wrong with being poly, but there are a lot of men (and sometimes women) who say they’re in a poly relationship but it turns out they’re just cheating. Especially on dating apps. It makes you suspicious of people who claim to be in open relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:27 AM
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Heavily depends on the environment of the woman. It’s more significant of a factor for women who are surround by religious or conservative people, high schoolers (although depends on the area, I never saw slut shaming when I was in school), women with a traditional upbringing, or if you live in a small town in Ohio and Carol is going to gossip about your activities at the 4th of July barbecue. At this point the actual effectiveness of slut shaming has been diminished due to general overuse of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:41 AM
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If they’re going to be angry when women don’t criticize them and they’re also going to be angry when women do criticize them there’s no real reason to not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:54 AM
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Why is that a bad thing? Just because commitment is more expensive doesn’t mean it inherently provides value to women though. If you compare a modern day woman who has more autonomy and financial freedom but less access to commitment to a woman who could more readily find a husband in the 1950s, the woman who had to cater to her husband with little autonomy for herself wasn’t getting the better deal even if she got a man’s commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:37 AM
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Men can feel how they want but if men being angry about not getting what “chad” has means they take it out on women then of course women are going to have something to say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:05 AM
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There’s less single women who are open to dating than single men, at least in America within the younger demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:56 AM
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How is it not the later? She’s comparing herself to another woman publicly on social media. Assumedly for male attention, because it’s obviously not to appeal to other women. If she was just a bully she would be privately harassing the other girl for being unfeminine, not posting the video publicly for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:09 PM
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RIP fat Sam’s speakeasy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:57 PM
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If you’re in a relationship then you should probably be doing things for the other person because you care about their well being even if it doesn’t directly lead to your well being. And in turn if your well-being is not being considered at all then you have a right to reassess the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 11:04 AM
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What qualifies as signs that you’re the adored vs the adorer? There’s stuff that women are the beneficiaries of more often than men during the early stages of dating like getting payed for on dates or being complimented or asked out. But there are many other aspects of relationships where the dynamics already favor men and it’s the expectation for women to do the adoring. Men are more likely to find a woman who offers adoration by cooking for them or cleaning without being asked or prioritizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:39 AM
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Speak for yourself. My sim world is filled with women and femboys harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:09 PM
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Uh, hot dog on a slice of bread slaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:00 PM
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That study proves that most fathers do some childcare. It doesn’t say anything about them doing an equal share of the childcare. A father could have put shoes on his kid in the morning, sat down to eat a meal (even one he didn’t cook), asked his kid how their day was and played video games together for 30 minutes and he contributed to childcare according to that study. But that still could have left the mother doing the majority of the childcare duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:57 PM
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The size of the machine and access probably does make a difference here. It’s more annoying to do laundry in a large apartment complex with only a few machines for everyone in the building. You have to plan a lot more of your day around doing the laundry. And when you forget the detergent you have to go all the way back upstairs to get it. And you have to time doing laundry to avoid your crazy downstairs neighbor that corners you in the laundry room to tell you stories about her family who lives…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:01 PM
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Whereas a woman's value as a mother/housewife has essentially remained the same. But women seeking to become housewives are also a rarity compared to the past. If men’s ability to be a sole provider has become a rarity due to our current economy and women’s ability to be able to quit their jobs and become a housewife has become a rarity due to our current economy, then how do you figure men’s value in the regard has gone up but women’s has remained the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:16 AM
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Well I guess we hang out in very different circles because I only know one woman who likes significantly older men (30+). The other women I know only ever date men a couple years older than them and on dating apps set 30 as the max. I only know a few women who have casual sex period though. So maybe different types of women prefer different age ranges or women are open to a wider age range for just sex. But even dating surveys show that women consistently rate men in their own age group as the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:24 AM
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Yes let’s normalize harems. I can’t wait for my harem of men and of all their moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:42 AM
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I wasn’t just talking about working out, I meant men gain more muscle on their upper body than women do from just going through male puberty. It makes sense that men like a woman with nice legs and women like a man with nice arms, women have more fat in the thighs and men have more muscle in the arms. Even the men who are skinnier than me have thicker arms than I do. But I have much better legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:33 AM
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How would they reach this conclusion? How can a woman affirm "I have no problem getting a man to commit to me", wouldn't she have to like get several men to commit to her to reaffirm this? Because if a woman found one man who committed to her, while there are other 5 or 10 who didn't want to commit to her, I wouldn't say she doesn't have a problem getting men to commit to her. I would say she does have a problem getting men to commit to her, but she found one who did, in which case she is lucky.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:08 AM
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How is being attracted to forearms goofy? That’s where men tend to put on muscle due to testosterone, in comparison to women who don’t tend to easily gain muscle in the upper body. It’s a sexually dimorphic trait. Of all the things a woman could be attracted to, the reasons for that one are very easy to comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:41 AM
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Most of the women I know would be ok with a 6-7 year age gap at max but the ideal is someone 2-3 years older. And most don’t really associate with older men at all, so if you’re older than these women rather than the same age there’s probably a confirmation bias that women who talk to to you happen to be the ones who are into older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:33 AM
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It seems to me that you are looking at virginity/low body count as something worthless. No civilization in history has ever rewarded promiscuity. Beg to differ. Civilization has certainly awarded promiscuity. Sex work has always existed and the concept of virginity is a more recent concept that came about during the agricultural revolution to acknowledge paternal lines for the purpose of establishing lineage and property rights. This is exactly the type what leads women to have high body counts.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:57 AM
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FDS doesn’t seem to have the same definition of HVM as RP does though. They would consider a man who wants them to be submissive and agreeable to be a LVM. A lot of regular women would also consider that type of man to be a LVM. I do think the main reason a lot of them are failing at finding a HVM is that their hypothetical HVM is a unicorn. The focus on high earners and traditionally masculine traits (from what I’ve seen on that sub) goes in contradiction with a lot of the traits they want that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:27 AM
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In practice, RP (and FDS) seem to do a lot more shit talking and engaging in toxic behavior on the internet than achieving their goals. That’s why they are alike. And tbf, it doesn’t make much sense that FDS would center around how to be more desirable to the most men like how RP focuses on how to attract the most women. Women are already taught to do a lot of things to enhance physical attractiveness from a young age, women don’t need to seek out a dating forum that revolves around that because…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:37 AM
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The last time I took a look at that sub (which was a while ago tbf), most of the women on there seem to be women who are resentful towards men because they had zero boundaries in marriages/LTRs and were used as a maid or mooched off of by their exes. It’s similar to the RP men on here who had a bad divorce and now resent women and want nothing to do with healthy normal relationships. Except FDS seems to also be against casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:54 AM
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The “looksmaxxing” thing seems to be a thing for both RP and FDS. They both include the concept of making yourself desirable, not for the benefit of the other person, but solely so you can get maximum benefits out of others for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:20 AM
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If someone doesn’t have the option to make their own money and has no better choice but to trade their virginity for marriage then having that leverage is a benefit. But access to a man’s resources and hand in marriage in exchange for virginity are not incentives when women have the benefits of economic freedom. For most women who desire marriage, the risk of not being able to test sexual compatibility outweighs the risk of not waiting for marriage. And realistically, in the modern dating world …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:30 AM
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I always see men on this sub who believe this viewpoint but I’ve never seen this actually happen in real life. The promiscuous women I know seem to just have regular ol relationships and they don’t resent their partners any more or less than the women I know who haven’t been promiscuous. How do you know the promiscuous women in your life resent their partners because they think they deserve someone like what they’ve had in the past? Did they tell you that? I see women who resent their partners a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:50 AM
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That depends on who you hangout with, I’ve met some very funny men but I know more funny women overall than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:35 AM
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I don’t see how women are any less pragmatic than men. Women often take the role of the planner and the person who does the boring but necessary regular upkeep in households. You also see women acting more pragmatic when it comes to health and being more cautions about financial and physical risks compared to men. Women make up the majority of college applicants. I wouldn’t say men are less pragmatic either though because on the other hand men are more likely to pursue a degrees/career that pays…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:23 AM
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Bi women generally say it’s easier to get a man than to get a woman but that dating women tends to be a better experience on average. Not that it’s always better because it depends on the person, but generally it’s at least more egalitarian and safer compared to dating the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:44 PM
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Yep, I know women who want to have babies and cook for their future man and they get more support than jealousy, including from openly feminist friends and women who want a less traditional relationship. If anything, they get even more love because they tend to also cook for and go out of the way for their female friends. Maybe if she was some kind of public figure she’d be criticized by more women, although when that many people have their eyes on you you get criticism for anything. But from wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 08:43 AM
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Lol if a man chooses to have sex with someone fat because he’s horny that’s on him. He’s not being taken advantage of. He is accountable for his choices. Just the same as the horny woman who wants to sleep with him is accountable for her’s. And I never mentioned anything about being drunk. Exchanging sex for sex is also not the same as exchanging sex for money. It’s not necessarily unethical, but it’s a discussion which involves different variables. Someone who wants sex because they’re horny wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:31 AM
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How are women taking advantage of men by being “chad chasers”? Are these men not consenting? I don’t believe men are exploiting women by paying for sex either, the fact that it’s transactional doesn’t make it non-consensual. The reason people have an issue with sex tourism being exploitative specifically is that sex tourism tends to happen in places that have higher rates of sex trafficking and someone who is sex trafficked is not consenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:50 PM
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Both those things can be true. Younger women are harder to get because most young women don’t find older men attractive but younger women are also less likely to have experience spotting unhealthy behavior in a relationship. Harder to get but easier to mistreat if they do get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:58 PM
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Being genuinely confident is great because being insecure is no fun but I’ve never found confidence particularly attractive in itself so I wouldn’t find the confident man more attractive. I find people who are open about their insecurities more real and admirable than fake confident people anyway. We all have shit we’re insecure about and it takes guts to admit that rather than to hide it. As long as they have the self awareness to not take their insecurities out on others by trying to drag othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:18 PM
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That’s fair, men should put more effort into looking pretty and women should put more effort into asking men out on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:29 PM
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If B is better looking and better in bed I’d choose B. But only for a casual relationship, not for commitment. I don’t like romantic shit and I am pretty emotionally unavailable myself so option A and I would not be compatible. But chiles dates and great sex sounds like a good time to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:56 AM
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Which male models/entertainers do you think are universally popular with women? Because from what I see there doesn’t seem to be one ideal body type. Timothee Chalamot and Harry Styles are super popular amongst my age group and they are very skinny but I know there are other (usually a bit older) women who like super fit and more masculine men like Jason Momoa or Chris Hemsworth. Being tall and objectively good looking are traits all those men have in common but their body types are quite differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:53 AM
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Do you have any examples then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:16 PM
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Women choosing to be single and celibate because they had bad dating experiences is not demonizing men unless they’re going around being a dick to men because of it. I know a couple men who have had such bad experiences with women that they also chose to remove themselves from the dating field and no one was demonizing or criticizing them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:13 PM
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It’s still quite a small percentage of people who are having threesomes and casual sex regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:10 PM
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It seems we agree overall, but women choosing to not have sex over having it with someone you have to manipulate into considering your needs is a prime example of women who enjoy sex prioritizing having sexual standards, not an example of women being passive and not prioritizing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 02:33 PM
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It technically fixes the physical part of the problem, so maybe it’s effective enough for a hook up but I can’t imagine it not causing some level of resentment towards a long term partner knowing they just don’t care about your needs. I think most women would choose to not have sex and get themselves off rather than deal with having to train a man like a dog to care about their pleasure (by withholding sexual things from them I mean, not in regards to taking the initiative in general). Women nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:52 AM
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That researcher doesn’t say that women are less likely to be abused when they are the main breadwinner, he says that women who make their own money are more likely to abuse than women who have to rely on men financially. I’m not arguing that it’s impossible a percentage of those women weren’t violent first, I’m saying that none of those stats directly disprove the ones that show women are abused more in relationships where the woman is the breadwinner than in relationships where the man is the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:30 AM
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when the violence was reciprocal, women were often the ones to have been the first to strike. The researchers initially assumed that, at least in cases of mutual violence, the women were defending themselves or retaliating. But when subsequent surveys asked who struck first, it turned out that women were as likely as men to initiate violence Did you read your own stats? They say that women initiated violence as much or more than men in reciprocally abusive relationships. They don’t say that most…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:04 PM
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Lmao, I’m not grasping at straws. You just can’t back up the claim you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:49 PM
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Those stats don’t contradict the ones that show women who are breadwinners are more likely to be victims of abuse than women in financially egalitarian relationships. Most of the stats you linked are about women initiating violence first in reciprocally abusive relationships. None of them show that women are only victims of abuse if they start the violence first. And none of them are about about male breadwinners being victims of reciprocal abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:20 PM
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If he’s a reasonably above average amount of fit/muscular then I can see him being lusted after by a bunch of women. But if he’s super jacked then they’re probably just looking because it’s unusual, not necessarily because they find it attractive. Like someone wearing a giant neon orange cowboy hat or someone with botched plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:30 PM
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Not at all. The woman doesn't need to do anything. A man will take care of his orgasm himself, using the woman as a means for it. He is reliant on her caring about his orgasm and not just her own. If the woman gets up and leaves after she gets off then he can’t rely on using her to take care of his orgasm. Women have all of this in their hand. They are the limiting factor in male sexuality. They hold all the power. Don't fuck men who don't bring you to orgasm. Don't let him penetrate you before …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:31 PM
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I absolutely agree with the point that more women need to communicate their needs and prioritize their pleasure if they want to have satisfying sex. Women need to match the energy men have and not worry about the being “too demanding” by expecting sex to involve their own pleasure & orgasms because most men surely don’t have this hang up. However, you can’t deny the significant role women catering to their sex partners needs plays in men having more orgasms. Men are also reliant on their actions…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:47 PM
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This has gotta be some of the most ridiculous level of mental gymnastics I’ve seen on this sub to excuse treating others badly. Women accept men cheating, but you also can’t let her know you’re gonna cheat on her because then she won’t accept it?? The part about how women prefer a man who has a bit of tact rather than just going “hey bb wanna fuck” doesn’t even apply to the cheating scenario because the women who wants to sleep with a guy but not if he behaves in an off putting way is still givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:38 AM
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Just because women don’t value a man’s purity (for that matter, I don’t know any men who actually value a virgin woman either) doesn’t mean you can’t be desirable. Some women might prefer a man with more sexual experience because they think that he might be better at meeting their needs and don’t want to have to teach him the ropes. But you can absolutely still be equally desired by and offer the same value to a partner if you meet a girl you like and you have proper communication and considerat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:15 AM
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I don’t think many women value a man’s “purity” or virginity in that way. Maybe super religious women. Or sexually experienced women who have a kink for taking a man’s virginity. The women who want non promiscuous men for partners either want a man who shares their values around sex and are put off by someone who is into the idea of having sex outside of a romantic relationship, or they are self conscious about potentially being compared to past partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:42 PM
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From what I’ve noticed with other women, the women who won’t date promiscuous men are usually the ones who have more conservative pasts themselves. But most women like that just reject promiscuous men quietly and aren’t openly broadcasting their preference (to men). So you’re probably right about the women who openly have an issue with slutty men being vocal about it to prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:44 PM
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Nah bestie you have it backwards. Women cannot be sluts, only men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:08 AM
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Men will (hypothetically) burn down society if they don’t get what they want and from this you conclude that women show a degree of narcissism you’ve never seen before...? Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:31 PM
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By her early 20's, a woman has most likely already had a few bad experiences with men and if not, has most likely seen her friends being treated like shit/cheated on/abandoned/led on etc. How is this post an example of women not just talking about bad relationships being common but saying that being single is better for women than being in a good relationship? That link does not prove your point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:52 AM
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It is disrespectful to sleep very quickly with people you don't like and make people you do like wait a (very) long time because you supposedly like them so much. The important thing is not the action itself, it is the different treatment of certain groups of people. And the people you don't like get the preferable treatment. I wasn’t trying to twist your words. To clarify, I don’t believe that the act of not agreeing to sexual activity with someone can be disrespectful. The fact that you had se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:26 AM
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Just because some men view sex as something women give to them, doesn’t change the woman’s own reasoning for waiting to have sex. You can project your personal feelings onto someone else all you want, but that doesn’t change the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:11 AM
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Some people might avoid doing selfless favors for someone before they get to know them better because they worry they might regret the investment they put in. But like I said, the reasoning behind that is still a whole different thing than the reasoning for why someone might avoiding having sex early on. It’s not “very disrespectful” to not have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:03 AM
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Yeah but you can’t just say “reverse the genders and look at the double standard” and then replace the initial scenario with an entirely different one. That’s not how double standards work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:18 AM
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Tbh if you reversed the genders and a man said he wanted to take things slow with a women despite having slept with other women earlier on in the past no one would be mad at him for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:18 AM
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Comparing spending money on someone to having sex doesn’t make sense. Paying for a date is something you’re doing as an act for someone else. Sex between two people who are interested in each other and desire sex is (hopefully) a mutual act that both people are participating in for the benefit of one another. The commenter above didn’t say that she only “gives” sex to men she’s into when she knows they won’t break her heart. She said that having (good) sex, eg... enjoying sex makes her more atta…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:25 AM
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Having friends in your life to meet your emotional/social needs and finding satisfaction without a relationship is actually very healthy. But if you only want to date someone for sex and not anything else then what’s the point of being in a relationship? Why not just look for FWBs? Sexual compatibility should definitely be on the priority list for a relationship. But exclusively prioritizing sex and passion is how you get men who end up with toxic partners, manipulative dark triad women, or men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 11:13 PM
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Can you find even one example of a man saying, "you are wife material but I don't want to bang you" Here you go And another one And a third example
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:50 AM
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At the end of the day, no is forced to cheat and temptation is no excuse for cheating. If someone is really a decent person then they won’t cheat no matter what. But yah, it’s accurate to say that proximity and being pursued by a hot person leads to a higher likelihood of giving in to temptation and cheating. For both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 03:42 AM
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Yep. I’m sure there are still younger women who would date older. But there are less women like this in gen z rather than an increasing amount. Younger women are more economically independent than women in the past and are more likely to value an attractive and equal partner than a provider. I can see sugar babying becoming more of a thing though. There are all those tik toks promoting this aesthetic of being a stay at home girlfriend for a rich old money type of man. But that’s more of a fantas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:19 AM
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I know, it’s important advice for how to spot manipulative people and avoid falling into their trap. But I also don’t want to give some of the posters on here any ideas. Fortunately, they don’t like the idea of catering to and putting in so much effort for women in the first place so I doubt they’re gonna want to do all the effort required to manipulate anyone. They want a life hack for how to get women to cater to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:16 AM
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Narcissists and sociopaths “love bomb” and will have you believing they are the best thing that’s ever happened to you. So when guys start talking about “dark triad” being attractive to women so therefore you should act like an asshole, I have to laugh, because dark triad guys are the biggest “simps”, at least at the start when they’re hooking their victims. Exactly. TRP teaches men that they should put high expectations on women’s behavior towards them while refusing to cater to her unless she …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 04:42 AM
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Q1: Confidence will always be attractive, but it’s not a trait that’s at the top of my list for what I find attractive in men. Whether these “deplorable” morals would be a dealbreaker or not depends on what they are. There are some things I’d be ok with in a casual partner but in a romantic partner my standards are higher. I’d be fwb with a guy who had a history of cheating or bad communication but I would pass on committing. If he murders kittens then it’s gonna be a no. And things like selfish…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:15 PM
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If you want to have sex with women then yeah, you’re gonna have to talk with them. Even with casual partners. Unless you go on grindr or pay a woman, most women aren’t jumping in bed with men without a conversation at least. People usually don’t have much of problem with the idea they might have to hang out with and talk to a person they’re sleeping with. If you do then it sounds like you have a rather extreme case of social aversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:35 AM
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Maybe they’re hooking up with straight women. There are plenty of straight women who would let a girl eat her out but won’t reciprocate because they find interacting with pussy gross since they’re straight. I’ve never slept with a straight girl, but I’ve seen gay girls who do get with straight girls complain about being used. They get an ego boost but shitty sex. Aside from that, I’ve rarely seen lesbians who sleep with lesbian/bi women complain about selfish partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:08 AM
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?? Have you ever actually met a lesbian Some lesbians do suck at taking the initiative sexually but it’s very rare to meet a lesbian who isn’t willing to please her partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:38 AM
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Sure, if a woman isn’t willing to do her part in the cooking and cleaning then she isn’t treating her partner fairly and isn’t showing that she cares enough to put in the effort. Same exact thing goes for men, if a man isn’t willing to do his part in the cooking and cleaning then he isn’t treating his partner fairly and isn’t showing that he cares enough to put in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:55 AM
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You don’t give any actual reason here why it’s worse. Posting skimpy pictures for attention and following people who post skimpy pictures are simply different things, so comparing which is worse just seems like apples and oranges. Some people will be fine with one and not fine with the other. Which behavior someone is ok with from a partner and which one someone isn’t is up to to that person alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:32 AM
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That's a kink - understimulating your dick is not sex, it's a kink. Uh, choosing not to have sex when you have the opportunity is not a kink. No one thinks that someone is participating in kink when they turn down sex because they’re tired or in a relationship or family is in the other room. This is a ridiculous point. There’s probably at least a few times in ever single person’s life where they choose to not have sex even if the other person wants it. I didn't say cheat - You presume that every…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:02 AM
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Being horny is not a choice but guess what? Choosing the option that doesn’t sacrifice pleasure is still a choice. If men have no choice but to cheat then I don’t get what the point of vetting men would be. If all men have no choice but to cheat then it sounds like men don’t deserve to be trusted ever and should be avoided entirely by women. And if some men are loyal and won’t cheat on you then that means cheating is avoidable and the men who do cheat are making a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 02:43 PM
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Sure. The person could be jumping from job to job or working jobs where they weren’t going to be making any career advancements anyway. But If one person doesn’t work at all and is a stay at home parent for years, then realistically there’s a high change they’re going to be in a worse place financially and will earn less when they get back to the workforce than they would have if they had spent those years gaining job experience. If alimony is given at all then it should be on a case by case bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:00 PM
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The definition of serving is to perform duties for another person. If you are cooking and cleaning for another person and not just yourself now, how is that not serving someone? Do you not realize that If two people live together and the chores are not mutually split then you’re doing more effort than if you were to just cook and clean for one person? Not when it comes to every single chore and it depends on both people’s standards of neatness. But two people still means double the food eaten, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:08 PM
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The breadwinner continues to reap additional financial benefits even after the marriage is over solely due to the career sacrifices the stay at home parent made during the marriage. They were able to have kids while also getting to continue advancing their career and achieving promotions, pay raises...etc because they didn’t have to take a cut in hours to take care of their kids. In comparison, if both parents worked and put the kid in childcare, it doesn’t make sense for alimony to be awarded b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:54 PM
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Ok, so your only argument is that men get to totally avoid personal accountability because men are too horny to make logical choices? It’s a bit sexist towards men of you to say that men are the only gender not capable of rational choice. Should men be trusted to make important decisions if they are slaves to biology and not as capable of rational decision making as women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:33 PM
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You make a good point that a man breaking gender norms and taking on feminine roles is often looked down upon (by men and women) as the man lowering himself, whereas a woman taking on masculine roles is seen as powerful. A man going against this aspect of society and putting himself in the same roles as women is often seen as deserving of less rather than more respect. I wish society didn’t view things that way and we all have more freedom from gender roles in the future. But on the other hand, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:16 PM
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Pursuing doesn't mean fucking. Women are the gatekeepers. Nothing happens without a woman's consent(I would hope). So yeah, women allowing dicks to slip their dick in, is definitely their fault, and men slipping it in whatever lets them in - is again - in the hands of women. You could just as equally say: “Nothing happens without a man’s consent (I would hope). So yeah, men allowing their dick to slip in someone, is definitely their fault, and women slipping whatever dick in her a man allows her…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:38 PM
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It’s not like there are any less examples of entitled men who don’t appreciate their partner’s work. I came across a thread yesterday where a woman was talking about having to work a full time job while her husband refused to contribute any income to the household and expected all the housework to be done and dinner to be made or else he would throw a tantrum. Tbh whether you’re a man or a woman, if you’re dating someone like that, you need to dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:19 PM
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If you’re cooking and cleaning solely for yourself then you aren’t “serving” anyone. But if you’re cooking and cleaning for yourself and for another person, then yeah you obviously are doing that work for the benefit of someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:09 PM
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If it’s so easy and such a better deal to do typically feminine duties then why are more women willing to be breadwinners than men willing to take on typically feminine roles in a household?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:58 PM
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People get alimony to make up for the fact that they were the partner who sacrificed their career prospects to take care of kids. Which the man benefited financially from. A man getting... sex alimony (??) makes zero sense because men aren’t giving up sexual benefits throughout the marriage while his wife continues to get these benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:40 PM
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It sounds like your issue has less to do with feminism and more to do with how particular your standards are. You’re free to have the standards you want, but you have to accept that the more particular those standards are the harder it will be to find someone who meets them. If you only date people with specific hobbies, you probably aren’t gonna have many options. I’ll give you that perhaps there are more bratty women than in the past. But it’s not a particularly relevant point since there aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:03 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say is a good point. But if we’re watching what people say and not what they do, there might be lots of men saying they would love to live in a household liberated from traditional gender roles, but in reality it appears that there are more women actually willing to put in the effort to take on typically masculine gender roles like the role of the breadwinner than men willing to put in the effort to take on typically feminine gender roles. The stats show that in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:39 PM
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Haha oops my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:52 AM
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Dude the only way what you’re saying makes sense is if a small amount of men were all in relationships with their own harem of women. Which can be easily disproven if you look around and notice that most people are not in a polygamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:54 PM
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I’ve seen men admit that they were a bad partner but then go on to talk about how really their ex was the toxic one and was being overly critical or selfish just for putting her foot down and leaving because she didn’t want to put up with being treated badly. And that she was a bitch who for not being patient enough for him to start turning his behavior around. Those men are so close to being self aware, yet not quite there. I’ve also seen plenty of men who freely admit they treat women badly or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:12 PM
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What specific behavior do you define as rude? If a woman is acting standoffish and ignoring random men then it’s probably because she’s had experiences with harassment when she’s been too polite before and is being cautious. I understand how that can feel hurtful to men who haven’t done anything wrong, but hopefully men can understand that it’s not personal but a precaution for safety because being receptive to strangers talking to you often gets women harassed. But there are women out there who…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:41 PM
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I’ve known men who have been jumped or violently harassed, but it’s either men who were involved in crime or men who looked feminine and were assumed to either be women, gay or transgender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:17 PM
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Did you actually read my post? I said that at first I didn’t assume I was being followed, until I turned to loop around and the guy stopped to watch which direction I would go in and matched my direction and then blocked my path. Idk what his goal was but It’s safe to say he was following me. And the other times it was men who I also knew were following me because they kept talking to me and going in the same directions that I kept going in even after I pointed out how to get to the place they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:05 PM
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This comparison makes no sense because statistically white people are most likely to become a victim of a crime by another white person. Whereas women are not most likely to become a victim of violent crime by another woman, but by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:32 PM
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About 3-4 times from when I was 15 to the current day. None of them ended in assault, which is why I said they were potentially unsafe situations rather than assaults. It’s not as easy to assault someone if you can’t get them alone and I did manage to avoid being followed all the way to a more isolated area by staying on the main street until i could get them to leave me alone or I could get away from them. The most recent one was when I was walking home and I saw this guy turn and start walking…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:30 PM
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I didn’t reject anyone, these are random men who started talking to me or asked for directions and then followed me and/or wouldn’t leave me alone. It’s not uncommon at all for women to get followed or harassed on the street. How often it happens depends on where you live though. It’s more common in cities and certain parts of the world. How do you know this has never happened to the women you know? Have you ever asked them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:46 PM
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You don’t need a self defense class to come to that conclusion. Just regular life experience. A lot of the times I’ve been in a potentially unsafe situation with a random man, such as getting harassed or followed home, it’s after I was polite and responded when a stranger tried to strike up a conversation or asked me a question. You don’t have to be an asshole to random men, but it is far safer to be standoffish than to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:36 PM
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For the most part, pregnant women have had to work all throughout history as well. I’m willing to bet that most women would take working an office job while pregnant over strenuous housework women had to do in the past while pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:19 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if certain things are really different for men or men just have way higher sexual standards than women and are spoiled in this department. Tbh, if a man “starfishes” and just lays there and lets me be on top and get myself off because he wants to see me enjoy myself and thinks it’s sexy then I’d consider the sex good and actually I find the idea hot. I don’t consider that to be anywhere near the equivalent of a man who won’t agree to anything that will please his partner and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:58 PM
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Actions that make someone feel cherished are selflessness in bed, actual desire to make the other feel pleasure... Etc. Those things, even when done WRONG make you feel CHERISHED. The point here is feeling you are more than what you offer / do to the partner. Tbf, tons of women also have to explain to men they sleep with that they want these actions or else they don’t get them. Man or woman, sometimes you just have to tell someone what you want or else you ain’t gonna get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:26 PM
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Plenty of women like to ride, but usually get stimulation more from grinding than up and down. Not that there are no women who enjoy the latter, but the up and down is often more for the man than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:11 PM
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The only time I’ve heard anyone lament how they’re really into a man but sadly his dick isn’t big and they wish he had a bigger dick like what they’ve had in the past, it’s been from gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:24 PM
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It results in both but courts tend to favor women heavily. A woman often has to be a complete train wreck to lose parental rights over her child and when it comes to child custody, she often gets more days (usually weekdays with father getting weekend). I know this is a commonly held belief, but it appears to be just be a myth. I actually use to assume it was true myself because of how often I’ve heard it said. But then I went looking and I couldn’t find any stats that show an inherent gender bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:20 PM
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I get that divorce leads to a higher chance of single parenthood. I’m saying that bringing up divorce when talking about women being scrutinized more for single parenthood doesn’t make sense because why is divorce specifically more likely to result in single motherhood and not single fatherhood? Or co-parenting? if two people split up, there’s no reason (besides the situation I listed in my previous comment) why the man can’t take responsibility for his equal share of parental duties. Just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:28 PM
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It already is. If someone posts a selfie you took without permission and you request that it be taken down, the law is on your side. You own the copyright. Unless it’s a picture someone else took of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:11 PM
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Those women aren’t necessarily aware that the men are fuckboys and players in the first place. You can’t avoid something you don’t know about. If a man or woman is hot enough then many people will certainly ignore the obvious red flags or negative reputation they have though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 11:13 AM
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You ask a specific question in your post about why women hype each other up but don’t stay friends and then you go on to talk about women you know who are narcissists and stab their friends in the back. This post is confusing because the question and the content of your post are really two separate phenomenons. You seem to be assuming that the answer to your question about why female friendships are often short lived is that women will flatter another women so they can use their friend and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:00 AM
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I never said that the majority of men are submissive. Where are you getting that from? I said that submissive men largely outnumber dominant women. Which means that the numbers are in your favor if you’re a dom woman who likes submissive men. And I wasn’t talking about forums exclusively for sub men to discuss amongst themselves, I’m talking about subreddits, discord groups, irl kink groups (I assume) for both female dominants and submissive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:40 AM
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If you look at any online spaces for dom women/sub men they’re always filled with men talking about how it’s impossible to find a woman who likes submissive guys and how ridiculous the ratio of sub men to dom women is. Online communities of course cater to specific niches and are not a direct representation of real life, so finding a submissive guy in the average dating pool isn’t as easy but if you’re a dominant woman who is open about your preferences or you look for partners in kink spaces, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:20 AM
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It lessens your desirability to men who prefer being dominant themselves. But it increases your desirability to men who prefer a dominant partner. And there are more men who like being dominated or led than women who like dominating or leading.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:09 AM
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What does choosing the wrong partner or divorce have to do with parenting your child though? Those are separate things. You can divorce and still co-parent. The only situation where a man becomes an “absent father” against his will is if the woman won’t let him see his kids, which absolutely happens, but I doubt those situations cause the majority of “deadbeat/absent” fathers. The stats around custody show that fathers are far less likely to seek shared or sole custody than mothers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:46 AM
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I wasn’t responding to your original post, I was responding to your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:03 PM
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You did initially say “most men” and then changed that to “most young men” later on. So no, it was not clear at all that you meant young men all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:51 AM
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Sure, but that’s different than what you initially were arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:04 AM
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It’s true that women factor other physical qualities into their ideal type than just being slim. This applies for men though as well since most men also have personal preferences. A woman might ideally want a man with abs and a man might ideally want a woman with big titties or a certain body shape. But yeah, there are more complex factors that go into body type standards being fair or not than both people just being the same size since many people don’t necessarily even desire the male/female v…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:52 AM
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Uh bestie that is not how that works. If 5/10 is average then 7/10 is two points above average. And like we went over a bajillion times, most men in the us are in a relationship. Even if most men are under 7/10 according to your own made up personal rating scale, if we look at the stat showing that most men are in a relationship, that still means most of those 7/10 and under men are in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:06 AM
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It’s convenient how the goalposts keep changing here from “most men”, to “most men under 7/10”, and finally to “most young people” (which includes women as well).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:56 AM
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Like we’ve just been over numerous times at this point, most men are able to get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:03 AM
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You edited your last reply, so I’ll respond to the additional edit here. You didn’t say most non-ugly men are sexless (which tbh makes even less sense). You said most men are sexless. Which is wrong. If you still don’t understand after I’ve explained this multiple times I’m not sure what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:58 AM
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It’s true that more women are choosing to be single and more men than women are in the dating marketplace these days, but that doesn’t make your initial statement (about most men being sexless) any less wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:48 AM
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I’m not saying that you can’t separate the individuals’ feelings from the concept we call a relationship because of empathy or some kind of arbitrary thing. I’m saying you can’t separate the individuals from the relationship because the relationship literally is the two individuals. A nation cannot exist without individual people. A relationship does not exist without the individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:44 AM
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Ok? All you’re doing is further proving my statement. Do you understand basic math? 69% of men are in relationships. 31% or 33% is not “most”. Most men are not lonely and sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:40 AM
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No. Most (American) men are in relationships. 69% of men and women are partnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:31 AM
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A relationship is not a sentient individual. It’s just a term used to group two individuals and explain how they relate to each other. You can’t separate the two individuals’ emotional well being from this scenario because they are the ones we’re discussing who are affected by the relationship existing or not existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:56 PM
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Sure, it’s possible that someone will change their behavior. A lot of things that are technically possible are not actually going to happen though. For most situations in life, If you really want happiness, you’re probably gonna have to take action to pursue it to one degree or another rather than sitting around and relying on chance. If you want to become financially well off, going to school and pursing a good paying job will likely produce a better outcome than going to a casino and playing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:13 PM
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None of these replies are really arguments against the points I made. Yes, if you end the relationship it ends any chance of fixing it. But if you stay in the relationship and the problems continue to happen because the other person doesn’t want to fix them then that also ends any chance of fixing it. Your only realistic options are to break up and find happiness in being single/being in a better relationship or to waste your life being unhappy in a shitty relationship. Why would you choose to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:44 AM
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Trying to “fix” someone just usually ends up being a toxic situation all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:35 AM
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Both these points are true. Sometimes people will leave regardless of how good of a partner you are and how much effort you put in. Unless you choose to completely emotionally detach, getting hurt when someone leaves is always a risk you take when it comes to relationships. On the other hand yeah there are a lot of stories where men don’t treat their partner well and are shocked when they get broken up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:33 AM
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We do know that the one ending the relationship either does not want any improvement or does not believe in it. How exact do we know this? You can have the desire for your relationship to improve all you want but if the other person’s not cooperating then it’s not gonna happen. It takes mutual agreement and effort of both people to want to fix their relationship issues. It’s not something one partner can do alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:26 AM
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It’s not exactly what she’s doing though. She isn’t having sex with the hot guy to reward him, she is just having sex with him because she wants sex. He is having sex with her because he wants sex. Just because you perceive it otherwise way doesn’t make it true. How is what I said a red herring? I said that if men had to choose, most would choose to “reward” the hot woman with sex over the average but kind woman. Do you not agree with this statement? And if men would choose to fuck a woman who’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:47 AM
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Women want to fuck the hot guy because the woman is horny and she wants sex, not because she thinks he deserves it as a reward. This isn’t a difficult concept. It’s not like most men would choose to fuck the average or unattractive woman who runs a charity for starving children because they think she deserves a reward over the Instagram model with an hourglass figure if asked to choose one over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:51 AM
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What does this have to do with being overweight? You do realize that body fat percentage and weight are separate things? A woman who has 20% body fat percentage is not noticeably overweight because she is just... not overweight. Not because she’s overweight but carries it well. Women and men naturally have different body fat percentages at the same bmi. Ideal body fat levels for younger women is in the 21%-31% range and ideal body fat levels for younger men is 8%-19%
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:35 AM
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My bad for not clarifying. By lower sexual standards, I don’t mean financial or personality standards. I mean standards when it comes to sex itself. Women seem to put up with sex where they’re not getting pleasure/satisfaction out of it and the other person is for longer than I imagine most men would put up with. It’s not as common enough for men to be in that position so I can’t say for certain that men wouldn’t stick around as long if you reverse the roles, but I believe men would dump a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:19 AM
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Yes, whether someone has leverage over the other person or not can be a grey area. You could argue that whoever wants something less has leverage over the person who wants it more. Whether that’s sex, money, looks... etc. Whether or not that leverage is used intentionally and what is on the line if the other person says no is the difference between a person using manipulation and coercion or not. A man who is hot or has money and knows women willingly want to sleep with him because they find tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:06 AM
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Did you even read what she wrote? She said she’s not leveraging anything over her boyfriend. She doesn’t hold the fact that she makes more money over him to demand that he do what she wants. If a man is leveraging money or immigration status over a woman to get her to do what he wants then he is shamed because that’s coercive. If a man happens to make more money than a woman but he doesn’t use that fact to demand that she do what he wants and they’re in a mutually respectful relationship then th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:59 AM
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Most women who have their own means of making money would eventually break up with a guy who’s not offering sex. Women tend have lower sexual standards and stay longer than a man would in a relationship where their sexual needs are not being met, but If you look at any relationship forum there are women breaking up over sexual incompatibility all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:35 AM
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I imagine men are more likely to verbally insult a woman for her past because they know it will possibly be an effective shaming tactic. Whereas men usually feel more proud and not ashamed about their slutty pasts so women who have an issue with it will just be passive aggressive cause they know insulting him won’t be effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:27 AM
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Yeah, it’s definitely a factor in attraction. Women I know talk about how sexy men with deep voices are way more than they talk about liking men who are tall or buff. A lot of women lust after Corpse (the youtuber) and they don’t even know what he looks like. Just that his voice is sexy. I disagree with a lot of posts on here generalizing what women find attractive, but a preference for deeper voices is one thing that is probably more universal amongst women than a preference for stereotypically…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:46 AM
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I don’t know the details but I’m assuming that the women he cheated with wasn’t also the head coach of a sports team. Imma guess that’s a relevant reason for why she didn’t get fired from her position.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:54 AM
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I’ve seen plenty of people mention how there are women out there who are shitty and they don’t get dragged over it. If you’re generalizing women however, and saying women are disloyal, women are delusional...etc then yeah of course people are gonna have a problem with that. Although some people are just irrational and are gonna be mad no matter what you do. I’ve never generalized all men as bad people but I’ve said things about how some men do x or y shitty behavior. I’ve still gotten men sendin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:19 PM
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Idk, I think women are just as likely to be insecure about a man’s sexual past. It just seems to manifest more as her silently being upset and resenting the man rather than confronting him about his past (which some men do as well).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:34 PM
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I don’t relate to most of these replies because I do find both men and women sexually attractive off the bat (although more women than men). One way that my attraction to women does differ from my attraction to men is that It’s possible for a woman’s cleavage or thighs to draw my attention sexually even if she might not be my overall type (although my attraction to women certainly has other facets. It’s not just about tits lol). But for men, the man has to fit the look that I’m into overall and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:53 AM
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You just described my exact type of man. Emo boys will always have my heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 08:39 AM
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What evidence or proof do you have that these men will treat women well?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 07:50 AM
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If he rejects her because he views sex as something he deserves to “get” in the same time frame that another man did then she’s dodging a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 07:28 AM
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I'm a manospgere content creator and I have never said women are bad at most I will say their illogical or delusional Yeah... this isn’t exactly disproving their point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 07:09 AM
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Sure, on average women might prefer a man who’s taller and is dominant in the bedroom. But most women don’t want a man who or is constantly starting shit with them/other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:34 PM
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No is entitled to either commitment or sex. But I wouldn’t call it disloyalty when a person wants sex and not a relationship. Assuming they are honest about their intentions and didn’t promising exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:34 AM
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If people want to have sex with then you get a pass for disloyalty? Following this logic, would you say that men are entitled if they expect loyalty from any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 01:44 AM
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I never said that anyone has to find anything attractive. I asked you to explain why they should be called out if they aren’t doing anything harmful. Why should people be looked down upon for it? It’s the moral judgment that seems pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:11 PM
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Why do they “need to be called out”? What’s the point of making moral judgments on a behavior that doesn’t directly negatively effect another person? If you don’t believe in sleeping around then don’t do it. If someone else wants to be slutty than who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:53 PM
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When it comes to working out and dieting, it’s more the other way around. You can alter your weight and how toned you are at the gym, but you can’t change where your body stores fat so being pear shaped is mostly just down to genetics (or plastic surgery).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:22 PM
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Saying that if you were to go against “human nature” then it wouldn’t work because someone may be resentful is a ridiculous point because there are plenty of women who are resentful about being expected to take care of the house and men who are resentful about being expected to be the breadwinner. It’s almost as if regardless of the role, being told it’s your duty to perform a certain role just because of your sex is the thing that is the consistent cause of resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:27 PM
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Bruh. I did say generally. You can easily read my original comment if you scroll up. their initial attractiveness generally dissipates once the other person gets tired of putting up with their shit. People with low self esteem have a higher chance of putting up with shitty partners. Sometimes that means staying with the same partner for years, but from what I’ve seen it often means going through a few different shitty partners until they gain enough self worth to start having better standards or…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:27 PM
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The first one is probably closer to the ideal for a woman who says she’s into dad bods. But it’s not as if there aren’t tons of men with active sex lives who look like the ones in the second pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:18 PM
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It doesn’t defeat my statement. I said generally people won’t put up with someone treating them badly for years. I noted that there are of course exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:46 PM
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I’ve seen that as well, even if most of those relationships tend to be shorter term. A lot of people will also keep getting with the same type over and over before they learn to raise their standards (or sometimes they get duped a lot and are just unlucky). Tho the people who put up with a shit partner for years are usually the type who have rock bottom self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:36 PM
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That’s true. But from what I’ve seen even if they can gain someone’s interest in the beginning, their initial attractiveness generally dissipates once the other person gets tired of putting up with their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:05 PM
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I actually agree that women can be complicated even when she’s very much into a guy. But men are just as guilty of this as women are. You see women complaining about men being difficult, wishy washy and giving mixed signals all the time. There are certain traits which are probably even more common in men than in women, such as commitment issues and being emotionally unavailable, which make a person come off as very complicated person to be involved with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 07:08 PM
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If a woman on here says she only wants 6’/rich/masculine/emotionless men then then she gets men acting disgusted and insulting her. But then when a woman says she likes the opposite traits, she also gets men acting disgusted and calling her a liar or saying that there’s something wrong with her. To a lot of those men, it seems that they just want to be outraged at anything women do. I don’t think there’s any way you can reply that they won’t find a way to be angry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:31 PM
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In most situations, men could also say no to “all of this”. A woman doesn’t have the sole choice to become pregnant without a man’s choices in the matter (assuming mutual sexual consent). Men have many options to prevent unwanted pregnancy by not having piv sex, refusing to have sex without protection and/or not cumming in a sex partner. A man has the ultimate choice to not cause pregnancy to occur if he exercises these options. A woman can’t magically will herself to become pregnant with his ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:42 AM
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It’s not like being agreeable and submissive is inherently bad or inferior, but you can’t deny that a person who exhibits these traits is going to be far more at risk for being taken advantage of or mistreated than someone who doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:08 AM
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The majority of women aren’t jumping into bed with random strangers though. There is a percentage of women who go out to the club and take random men home or have flings while on vacation, but most women are aware of the risks and hence why it’s an uncommon behavior in general. Most casual sex likely happens between people who already somewhat know each other, such as friends/acquaintances. Or if they do want to just hook up it’s after meeting in public and going on a date/dates first to make su…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:19 AM
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It’s not niceness that detracts from someone’s attractiveness or makes them boring. It’s that being nice is not enough by itself to catch a person’s attention. Most people are attracted to a partner who they find physically attractive, who puts effort into their appearance, is interesting, they think has something to offer for sex or a relationship...etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:40 AM
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This is simply untrue. Most women (in western countries anyway) share the bills with men. Women who rely solely on the financial support of their partner are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:26 AM
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Yeah, that point is really just a personal preference for how you want someone to react when you tell them your problems. It doesn’t back up OP’s idea that women are worse friends. Some people want friends who will just listen to them vent and offer sympathy. And other people want friends who will offer solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:20 AM
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They’re complimenting you because they find a certain feature of yours attractive. It’s not some kind of malicious ploy lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:33 AM
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A single person doing 30 minutes of chores a day is hardly the equivalent amount of work as a full time job. But what’s completely silly and detached from reality is to try and attempt to claim that doing housework, childcare and cooking all day counts as leisure time and not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:54 AM
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Even in current times there are many women who are willing to risk their health or physical well being moreso for the other person’s benefit by having unprotected sex with men or being on birth control and dealing with negative side effects. I imagine the percentage of men who would be willing to put up with health side effects or side effects which lower their own sexual enjoyment (like women who are bc and deal with dryness or low sex drive) for their sex partner to have more pleasure is a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:29 AM
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According to that logic, a man who is working a job to support his family doesn’t count as working either because he’s doing it to benefit himself and his offspring. Which makes your initial point that men sacrifice more because they woke more hours moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:13 AM
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Of course. It’s always a good idea to make sure you’re compatible before you get married to someone. But people do change and to some degree that’s not under your control. The only ethical thing you can do in the case that your needs are not being met anymore is to end the relationship. If you’ve explicitly agreed upon having sex with other people being acceptable, then that’s not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:46 PM
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They’re denying you the basic standard of having a partner who isn’t betraying and lying to you. Not to mention putting your health at risk without your consent if the marriage is not a complete dead bedroom. The concept that it’s ok for someone to get something elsewhere if their partner doesn’t want it could be used to justify nearly anyone’s cheating. By that logic it’s ok for a woman to have another man on the side if her husband isn’t giving her something she really wants from him. Or for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 11:31 PM
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Lmao. You really don’t get it. Women don’t find men talking about jacuzziing that booty sexy. Prince and The Weeknd have very sexually explicit lyrics as well but a big reason they are lusted after so much and considered sex icons amongst women and lil Uzi is not is because a lot of their dirty lyrics are about how they want to please women and make them cum. Nearly all Uzi’s sexual lyrics are about clout and getting head or pussy or ass from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 09:48 PM
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You can’t compare lil Uzi to Prince. I like his music but it is not sexy. Have you listened to either artist? Here’s a Lil Uzi Vert lyric: I made that girl give all of that top up dreads in my head, used to pray for the lock up I hit from the back and my legs start to lock up Jacuzzi that booty, I gave that girl flakka Needless to say, it does not scream sex god. If you wanna compare Prince’s sex appeal to a modern artist, his appeal is more comparable to someone like The Weeknd. They’re both sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:12 PM
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Uh the last time I took a look at the MGTOW sub (before it was quarantined) it was full of comments talking about how dating sucks cause all women are whores and bitches. That’s a LOT different than just “speaking from more of a male perspective than women are comfortable with”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:15 PM
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If anything it’s the opposite. You see men in political positions react in anger to something and they’re called passionate whereas a woman would generally not be able to get away with that kind of emotional display if she also wants to be taken seriously. It’s more permissible for woman to express emotion, but it also takes a bigger hit to her being taken seriously. For men it’s the other way around. Less normalized for men to be open emotionally but also less likely for men expressing their em…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:58 AM
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Maybe in middle school. If you’re an adult that kind of thing is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:04 AM
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I think the primary way to change the fact of men not getting complimented as often as women is that men should compliment other men more often. But I compliment both men and women who I walk past while on my way as well (if it’s in a busy area during the day). Most of the men I compliment are ones who are currently working, like cashiers who are ringing me up. Someone who is currently doing their job is probably not gonna try and follow you or hit on you so there is no safety risk there. And of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:02 AM
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Only wanting sex that’s enjoyable with someone who respects your boundaries isn’t a hallmark of responsive desire. That’s just how things work for the majority of people. Unless you’re talking about the being flirted with throughout the day part, which does sound like an aspect of responsive desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:16 AM
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I would never tell anyone that personality is the only thing that matters in dating, it clearly isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:09 PM
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In the last photo, Kate Moss is clearly wearing makeup. I don’t see any obvious makeup in the photo of the women you posted either so I’m not sure what your point is. Her eyes are censored so I can’t fully tell but makeup doesn’t give you very full lips and change your entire bone structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:11 PM
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Haha, that’s a ridiculous claim. Everyone has unflattering photos. Even famous models and actresses who are known for their looks still have bad photos. Mila Kunis Jennifer Lawrence Sofia Vergara Kate Moss
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:05 PM
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Neither. The 40 year old is way too old for me and the 30 year old doesn’t sound like my type either and he is also a bit too old (the max oldest I’d date is around 27/28 but I’d prefer younger).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:35 PM
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Lesbians cheat far less but are also more likely to consider it a relationship dealbreaker compared to gay men. According to this study 59% of gay men have been unfaithful compared to only 9% of lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:36 PM
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I don’t know where OP found that picture, but it seems obvious that it’s a very unflattering photo of an otherwise attractive woman. Her body is average, but as unflattering as the picture is you can tell she has a pretty face. Full lips, thin nose, high cheekbones. I can’t see her face super clearly with the image quality and the censoring but her features remind me of Lilly Rose Depp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 08:21 PM
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Where are you getting your info that bi women cheat with men more than with women? Because I’m not sure that’s even true. But if it is true it makes sense that it’s related to there being less lesbians than straight people. There are far more men in general who are sexually willing compared to queer women who are sexually willing. That equals more potential opportunities to cheat with a man than with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:48 PM
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The only time I’ve seen people call a man sexist for only wanting women he’s attracted to is when the man has hypocritical standards compared to his own looks. A man who wants a pretty girlfriend but thinks women should judge him on his personality or else they’re shallow. An overweight man who demands thin women only. A man who refuses to put effort into his appearance but expects women who do put in that effort to want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:30 PM
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Where did you get your information in regards to cheating rates? According to all the statistics I’ve seen, lesbians have the lowest cheating rates of any coupling. Gay men cheat the most, followed by straight people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:54 AM
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I agree. There are way too many women putting up with shitty behavior from men. I’ve even told other women I know who’ve asked for relationship advice that it’s ultimately their choice to stay with a guy who’s treating them badly but they should realize that they’re setting the standard by allowing that treatment. They can’t expect their boyfriend to respect them after he cheats or mistreats them and they just make excuses for him and take him back. Although, I think a lot of women don’t even re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:21 AM
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Not that I agree with it, but I can understand why most women are naturally gonna be offended if the man requests a paternity test. To have it Insinuated by your partner that you might have cheated while you’re risking permanent long term negative effects to your health and body as well as potential death in order to give them offspring isn’t gonna make someone feel great. If the roles were somehow biologically reversed, men wouldn’t be any less upset about women requesting a paternity test. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:08 PM
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Exactly. It’s the person interacting with the dick who is the one considered (by some people) to be made dirty or inferior. Not the one with the dick. It’s about the power fantasy that dick has the ability to reduce another persons value rather than men themselves being considered lesser because they have a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:27 PM
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Well if you’re going by whats best for the individual and not necessarily for the group as a whole or for other people, then the act of only looking out for your best interests is a positive trait for women too. When it comes to evolutionary theory and a man’s reproductive success, there are a multitude of different theories. If a man has lots of sex with different women this could be an effective reproductive strategy, but it could also be an ineffective one if the offspring doesn’t survive due…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:18 PM
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Also the cause, status, intellect, athleticism, aggression, dominance are naturally positive traits for the individual male Not altruism This statement is solely based on your own personal opinion and is not an objective fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:54 PM
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I don’t think the marriage thing is the issue here. Maybe she doesn’t even want to be married. But I feel bad for this girl that she has a bf who’s out here talking about the other hotter girls he could be getting with. I mean how would you react if you found out your girlfriend was telling people she can’t help but think about how she could leave for a man who is more attractive, but she won’t cause she chooses to stay loyal to you, the man who was there for her rather than the guy who she the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:29 PM
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Do men not get to choose their partners? Assuming this is not a hostage situation, men are not being forced into dating a woman. They can end the relationship the same way a woman can. I do think that women should be introspective about what kind of man they are attracting/attracted to and should not enable shitty behavior. Although you can’t predict how someone is going to treat you in the long run. Plenty of women have repeated bad experiences with dating and choose to be alone even if that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:15 AM
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Not necessarily. Just because a lot of people think something doesn’t make it true. There are many examples of people having mass misconceptions about something only to be entirely wrong, that’s always a potential outcome due to how societal norms spread in human society. In regards to many gender and sexuality norms, it’s not a reach to say there might be some sort of biological root. But it’s nearly impossible to actually tell whether these social behaviors stem from nature or nurture, conside…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:58 AM
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So when a woman goes around cheating on men and mistreating them, that means men should be held more accountable for getting with women who act like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:26 AM
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This is true from what I’ve noticed. I’m only into men who are super feminine and I’ve never met a man who looked like that who hasn’t had numerous experiences of women practically fighting each other for his interest. The femboys are in extremely high demand and low supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:54 AM
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There’s also the fact that two men in a relationship means married gay male couples tend to be in a higher impact bracket compared to lesbians. Might contribute to higher stakes for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:35 AM
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If you don’t have an actual argument then you can just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:39 AM
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Men wait longer to commit and make wiser decisions in their long term partners. They are less emotional and more practical. Nothing new here. The different attitudes towards relationships explains why gay men stay married longer. But It’s not as if people don’t stay together despite the relationship being unhealthy or that people don’t part ways amicably because they both just realize they aren’t compatible for the long term. And I’ve seen that happen a lot amongst lesbians in particular, “U-hau…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:55 AM
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Women are probably less ashamed of being submissive because It’s more societally acceptable for women to like being dominated than it is for men to like being dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:46 AM
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You actually gonna respond to any of the points I made or nah
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:42 AM
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It’s weird how much society treats dick like this all powerful sexuality changing thing. A lot of people think that if someone likes dick it instantly overpowers any and all interest in anything else sexually. Bi men are assumed to secretly prefer dick, bi women are assumed to secretly prefer dick, some lesbians and straight men think women are ruined or tainted by dick. Some straight men are really obsessed with porn revolving around big dicks and the whole cuckoldry thing. Women think a man be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:40 AM
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Lesbians and gay men have quite different dating habits. Lesbians tend to commit (including marriage and moving in together) extremely fast and end the relationship when they realize they aren’t compatible. In comparison, gay men commit less quickly but seem to stay together longer once they do. Certain relationship problems are also dealt with differently in gay vs straight vs lesbian relationships. For example, gay men in relationships cheat at far higher rates than lesbians (59% vs 9% accordi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:02 AM
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I assume women who post photos like that know the kind of attention they’re gonna get from posting them. Some of it is wanted (the positive validation) and some not so much (the unsolicited dick pics). Are the women who show off their body the type to get mistreated by men more often? If they’re doing it because they crave validation from men, then yeah I can see this translating into other aspects of their life. They might put up with shitty treatment from men because they’re afraid that if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 01:43 PM
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Tbf, I have certainly seen (online, not from people I know) bi women say they won’t date a bi man. Less common than amongst straight women, but it’s not unheard of. Maybe you haven’t encountered it because these women are usually the type who are are not immersed in the “queer community” and mainly hang out with other straight people. They are into more traditional gender roles and say things like “I prefer my women feminine and my men masculine”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:27 AM
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The people complaining about the “pink tax” aren’t complaining that things are produced for women, they’re complaining when those things are arbitrarily more expensive than the same exact thing produced for men. I don’t think this is a serious problem since women can just choose to buy men’s razors. No one is forcing us to buy pink razors. But the point of it being unfair that certain products cost more when they’re marketed towards women is an understandable one. Also the person you responded t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:33 PM
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There are very few lesbian bars compared to gay bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:03 PM
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The money as an object is materiel. But even if you put a man’s money in a different room, as long as it still belongs to him, then you can still use his wealth as a characteristic to describe him. If a man lost his money or status then those things would no longer be characteristic attributes. If a woman experienced damage to her face or gained/lost too much weight then her looks would no longer be a characteristic attribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:48 AM
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If we’re going by the “characteristic attribute” part of the definition rather than the “permanent or essential” part, then men also have inherent value because the things men are stereotypically valued for such as wealth and status are characteristic attributes as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:28 AM
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A woman's looks are inherent though, I can't separate her from her looks. That's like separating a man from his penis size or his height, not happening. Here’s the first definition that pops up when you google “inherent”: “existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute.” Considering that humans generally age, looks are not a permanent characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:58 PM
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What about men who are victims of emotional abuse and sexual assault? Laws increasing the hurdles sexual assault and abuse victims have to go through likely harm male victims at equal or higher amounts than they are going to prevent men from being falsely accused. Statistically, you’re more likely to be a victim of sexual assault than you are to be a victim of a false accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:05 PM
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The article is about a proposed bill banning abortion after 15 weeks rather than banning it entirely, so not quite as dire as the title makes it sound. But it does not set a good precedent for the likelihood that lawmakers involved won’t decide to push for an overall ban in the near future, considering their claims about the overturn of roe vs wade being about the victory for states’ rights to decide on abortion restrictions appear to be a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:39 PM
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Sounds like you haven’t been keeping up with current news. There are a number of lawmakers currently attempting to get bills passed in congress to reduce abortion rights on a federal level, despite initially making statements that these kind of laws should be decided on a state level and not on a federal level. There are no lawmakers currently trying to push a bill for American men signed up for the draft to immediately be sent off to war.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 08:18 PM
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If you’re in a non-exclusive FWB relationship then sure go ahead and sleep around. If you’re in an sexually exclusive monogamous romantic relationship and you sleep with someone else then guess what, that’s cheating. Most people understand the difference here but let me break it down for you into very simple terms. Sleeping with someone else when not in a monogamous relationship = not cheating. Sleeping with someone else while in a monogamous relationship = cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:37 PM
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Obviously I’m not talking about legal terms. Don’t play dumb. When two people decide to enter into a relationship with each other, they agree to be sexually exclusive unless alternatives are mutually decided upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 12:06 AM
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The comments in this thread aren’t about how men who are above 30 are old and unattractive to all woman. They’re mainly women saying that to a woman in her early 20’s, a man who is 30 seems too old in comparison to where they currently are in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:00 PM
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Well if a man is hurt that a woman isn’t a virgin then he’s shouldn’t be getting into a relationship with her in the first place. And men are also generally hurt when the woman he’s dating finds sex elsewhere. No one owns anyone, but if you don’t want to agree to the terms of a monogamous relationship then don’t commit to a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:19 PM
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Lots of people would be more hurt if someone cheated on them than if they were honest and ended the relationship. And people aren’t hurt from getting cheated on because they’re against casual sex, they’re hurt because their partner betrayed the commitment and lied to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 10:08 PM
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What. Do you think he said to her “hey heads up, I’m planning on cheating on you so it’s your call if you want to date me” before they got together?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:54 PM
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For both men and women, I don’t think it’s just about extra sex or forbidden sex. It can be those things, but it’s mostly about the dopamine rush of being with a partner where things are fresh and new and exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:21 PM
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All you did was list reasons why you think American men are better than men in other countries, not how they’re any better to date than American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:17 PM
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I don’t know who that guy in the photo is other than he’s in a kpop group but I still find him more attractive than Henry Cavill. It’s not just the fame. A lot of men underestimate how attractive women find pretty boys. There’s a reason it’s mainly men scoffing at him being more desirable than Henry Cavill. I agree with you about Daniel Radcliffe though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 03:04 PM
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That was my guess after reading your comment, I imagine it’s not that common for younger people to want to commit to an older man or woman even if they might get with them for fun. What makes the women your own age not relationship material?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:22 PM
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If you’re referring to the abortion ban, you do realize that women also have sex in relationships and thus can get pregnant...? Much more sex in fact and often without condoms. Which leads to higher pregnancy risk than a single hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:34 PM
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It sounds like these women are just not they type who are looking for a relationship, which makes sense if you guys started off as casual. Alternatively, are the women you’re going for much younger than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:41 PM
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Are you using chrome? I just did the same search in incognito mode and none of those results came up. I got dating websites for men who want to date single moms, financial literacy and life advice targeted to single moms, single moms sharing their experiences being a single mom, a redpill video bashing single moms and a comedy tik tok of a guy telling his girlfriend that he’s spending time at the strip club because he supports single moms. When I run the search without incognito the results are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:09 PM
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This is such a ridiculous comment, of course a man is more likely to personally relate to another man’s dating problems. If you reverse the genders here, a woman might tell the woman complaining about men that she understands and she’s experienced the same while the man might just say “damn that sucks”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:43 AM
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The amount of men and women I’ve met who are not that interesting is pretty equal. I’ve noticed that some men tend to surround themselves with a wide variety of men but they only interact with a specific type of women, the ones whom they find attractive. Which leads to them having confirmation bias that women are boring because often (but certainly not always) the kinds of women who are most into discussing literature, politics, academia...etc are not the type who care as much about investing ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:03 AM
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Plenty of women care about looks the same as men do, but the way a person presents themselves and personality tends to weigh a bit more into attraction for women than it does for men. Hence women finding men who showcase more of their personality (or a persona) such as actors and musicians more attractive than just a random hot guy. Women aren’t lusting after guys who just have status but don’t display personality. The men you listed are all famous actors, women aren’t professing their desire fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:45 AM
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Ah, well if a person is financially privileged then yes being a stay at home parent in that case sounds like a great life and I can see the appeal. The majority of people don’t have the money to hire someone to do those things so for the average person being a stay at home parent is gonna be mostly work and not much fun leisure time. The stay at home parent is probably gonna have even less free time than the working parent until the kids get older, as they’re doing the same tasks which would oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:16 AM
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I don’t necessarily disagree with these points overall, but besides cases where the stay at home mom or dad has a very well off partner, realistically the stay at home parent is usually gonna be spending their day taking care of kids and doing chores rather than golfing, hanging out with friends and shopping. Unless they are just a stay at home boyfriend/girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:17 AM
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If you’re an average, non-famous man then your likelihood of being a sexual assault victim is likely higher than your likelihood of being a victim of false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:22 AM
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Are we talking them never making the very first move but still initiating what they want to do to me and what they want done to them during the sexual encounter? Or are we talking never initiating anything during sex ever? Cause if it’s the former then this would be ok with me if that’s what they prefer. It’s not ideal, but I often like taking the lead during sex anyway so it wouldn’t bother me too much. Although It’d be nice if they’d just tell me outright that they don’t like to initiate. If i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:04 AM
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In terms of pleasurable nerve endings and orgasms, the clit IS the equivalent of the dick for many women. That’s my point. It’s literally the same exact nerve tissue as the penis. The vagina itself doesn’t have nerve endings which are directly stimulated, only ones which can be indirectly stimulated through the vaginal wall. Some women get plenty of stimulation from this and some don’t get any. Masturbating can be helpful to learn what feels good, but you can masturbate a million times and it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:01 PM
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Lmao 😂 this whole ass reply is top tier r/badwomensanatomy materiel. The clit is deeper than just the internal part but many woman still can’t get off from penetration and some take longer to get off no matter how often they masturbate or know their body. I do think women should take responsibility for our own pleasure by communicating and knowing our bodies well. But bruh if a woman can’t get proper sexual stimulation from penetration then she can’t just magically “take responsibility” and will…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:42 PM
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Most women can’t get off from penetration alone and need their clit to be involved since penetration doesn’t provide them adequate pleasure. And exactly, many women have to just masturbate if they want to get pleasure in those situations and the guy isn’t willing to participate in sex acts where they can get the stimulation they need or he ends things before she can get off. That’s why you see women complaining about being used as a fleshlight. They’re upset because of how one sided it it. Not r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:00 PM
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To have pleasurable sex you probably still at least would expect the woman to want to do sex acts where you can get adequate stimulation from (correct me if I’m wrong). Would you still consider it pleasurable sex if she refused penetration and you just had to get yourself off?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:21 PM
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Would you still consider it to be 100x better if you weren’t necessarily gonna get physical pleasure and satisfaction out of it and instead you risk an increase in negative outcomes? If a man were to not have a high likelihood of having sex with a random women in a way that resulted in his pleasure and instead he risked discomfort, pregnancy, and stds then does it not make sense that he may not necessarily be happy about being treated like a sex toy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:16 PM
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Fame, above average looks, being in the public eye (which may incentivize them to maintain their looks), money, access to the benefits of a certain lifestyle, a public persona. Amongst other things. But that’s a pretty vague question so if you want a more specific answer you’re gonna have to elaborate. Now that I think about it, the celebrities I’m thinking of who I find attractive were/are notorious for wearing a ton of makeup. So that’s probably a significant factor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:59 PM
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What. How is a man being shamed for one thing the equivalent of a woman being shamed for an entirely different thing? This is not how double standards work. The logical equivalent here is both being shamed for the same thing. The reverse of a man being shamed by society based on his looks and lack of money would be a woman being shamed based on her looks and lack of money. The reverse of a woman being shamed for promiscuity would be a man being shamed on promiscuity. The main double standards in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:06 AM
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Idk about body, but face-wise men who are in their 30s absolutely look older than men in their late 20s to me. I find some men in their late twenties attractive, but aside from one or two celebrities I’m not at all attracted to men in their mid 30’s or above. The average women is most attracted to a man who is the same age as her or a couple years older, not someone 10+ years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:32 AM
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I doubt any women are celebrating the idea of dating the kind of men who believe that because of her age that she’s “past her prime” either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:10 AM
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If you don’t want to date someone who is promiscuous then that’s your choice but tbf women who only have sex in relationships also risk pregnancy, abuse, STI’s, manipulation and running into a crazy person. And It’s not like the potential assault risk while in a private location with lots of men lessens if you’re not seeking to hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:30 AM
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People are free to have double standards. And other people are free to avoid those who have double standards and to point out how they’re being hypocritical. There are different levels of double standards though. If a person has long hair but they only want a partner with short hair then that’s pretty reasonable even though it’s technically a double standard. If a person wants certain effort or treatment from a partner but they aren’t willing to do the same then that’s gonna be a much bigger iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:46 AM
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I wouldn’t say anything in response because I don’t really care. I might correct him if he said or did something assholish that made me not want to date him anymore/sleep with him. But I wouldn’t be dating someone in the first place who I knew I wasn’t interested in sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:24 AM
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Yeah, that’s my whole point. Most straight men probably don’t even think of sex involving their physical pleasure and satisfaction as a high bar for a partner to meet because it’s something they assume due to how men are treated and what we define as sex in our society. Women don’t necessarily have higher sexual standards than men and men do have more standards than just enthusiasm, they just benefit from the other stuff generally being assumed to be part of the deal as the barest minimum when h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:54 AM
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I’m not a man, but I would think the requirements of decent sex for men are usually much higher than just enthusiasm. Would most men consider sex decent if a woman was enthusiastic but she only wanted to do stuff which stimulated her and not her partner so the man got no/little pleasure and wasn’t getting off himself? I’m sure some would but it’s probably not the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:54 PM
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If you’re talking about porn, they usually hold it differently than how someone would hold it when masturbating for pleasure and not for the best possible camera angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:41 AM
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I’d assume it’s likely because the young and hot kinky people get snapped up quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:20 AM
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To be fair, women’s bios aren’t much better. But women are leagues ahead of men in terms of taking and choosing good photos. Which is probably the number one most important way to market yourself on a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 07:35 PM
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Well if they aren’t horny and hence don’t want to have sex then they aren’t holding off. They just don’t want sex. Some women have the type of high and consistent sex drives where they would always be down for sex on a first date if they’re attracted and the person seems like a good potential sexual partner. But then other women have fluctuations in their sex drive and may just not want to have sex on that day (maybe due to hormones, life stressors, they didn’t shave, they pulled an all nighter …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:37 AM
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It seems kind of entitled and self absorbed to expect those things just because he did them with someone else. Especially if I’m already getting my needs met and I don’t even care about that stuff. Likewise, If there’s something that’s very important to me in a relationship and it’s not happening, I wouldn’t stay and put up with my needs not being met just because they didn’t do that for their exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:28 AM
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Sure, I’d find it flattering as long as they were being respectful about it and it’s not a terribly inappropriate setting (like on a dark side street at 11:00pm). I respect the guts it takes to approach someone, so I won’t be rude towards them as long as they’re being respectful towards me even if I’m not interested. I don’t really look at people and think anything negative about their appearance though, they’re either my type or they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:53 PM
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And believe it or not, there are women who claim they know their worth and will never settle who are all terrible mates and people. I don’t think someone having unreasonable standards means someone is a terrible person. It just means they have unreasonable standards. Unless they’re being an asshole to people who don’t meet their standards or refuse to meet the other persons standards while having high standards themselves. That's exactly how things work. People cherish and respect the things tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:46 PM
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I’m not saying that women are never referring to money or worth with those statements or that it isn’t toxic in that instance. I’m saying that the only times I’ve actually heard those statements from women I know, it’s specifically been about a man who was cheating or not reciprocating effort. It's always about money and looks because guess what, a woman can go out and get a broke unattractive man to treat them exactly how they want them to if they wanted to. Yeah, no. There are broke and unattr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:05 PM
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The overwhelmingly majority of women say the same tropes like never settle, don't chase men, I'm the prize, I know my worth, and all women practice hypergamy openly and easily. What kind of places do you hang out where you see women saying this stuff all the time? Maybe it’s more common in other age demographics but I’ve never heard the women I know say any of those things. Except maybe the don’t settle and know your worth thing, but in that case it’s not about money or looks but when talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:57 PM
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Option B. I wouldn’t want to be with someone I’m not attracted to and It’s not the end of the world if we don’t have the same hobbies. We can still have interesting conversations even if we have different areas of interest. If our values are in opposition though, then that would be a different story. The descriptions between the two don’t entirely make sense though. Option A is like a best friend whom you get along with well, but I don’t see why that descriptor would only apply to A and not B if…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:33 AM
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It can be both impatience and a lack of compatibility. Tons of people wouldn’t consider themselves compatible with someone who wanted to wait so long for sex. My point is, if he’s not able to meet her needs then he’s not “such an amazing man” for her and she needs to find someone who is a better match. It’s certainly not fair to label him a bad guy or to say he’s trash, but clearly she was unhappy and they were not compatible. Not cheating, being respectful and not being pushy doesn’t necessaril…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:07 PM
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I don’t get how the takeaway from the last story is that this women gave up a good man and yet is still complaining. If the problem with the first boyfriend was a lack of sexual chemistry and the problem with the other guys was them being bad people then neither of those options sound like they are actually good options. It doesn’t make someone a bad person because they don’t want sex, but it’s not as if it wouldn’t be a dealbreaker for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:30 PM
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I can believe this, but tbf I’ve heard the same thing from women in relationships as well so I don’t think it has to do with casual sex as much as it does with how often women are treated like shit sexually in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:01 AM
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I think it depends on the level of attraction. I can see it being difficult to stay friends with someone who you’re extremely attracted to who doesn’t feel the same way, but if it’s just regular attraction then it shouldn’t be a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:48 AM
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Kinda sexist tbh. I don’t think it’s fair to men to view them as less rational human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:11 PM
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And before you go that it is the patriarchy, it is not, it is because a woman opened her legs, like 95% of the time, both the GF and the homewrecker is mostly to blame. Lmao what kind of logic is this? It takes two people to agree to have consensual sex. How do you figure that a woman is 95% to blame for an equal decision? Do you not believe that men are adult human beings who are capable of personal autonomy and making their own decisions to the same degree a woman is capable of?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:47 PM
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Way to avoid answering the question. It’s crass for anybody to entertain other people’s advances when they’re seeing someone. It’s not as if your point that men need to manipulate women in order for the woman to appreciate what she has doesn’t apply in reverse. There are plenty of men out there who mistreat their partners when they realize she is devoted enough to be complacent with their behavior and wouldn’t be willing to leave for someone who treats her better. According to your logic, it’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:19 PM
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It’s usually obvious, people just willfully ignore the signs. They don’t want anything serious, you ask them what they’re looking for and they say they don’t know or they’re just looking to have fun, they don’t do labels, they want to “see where it goes”. Basically If it’s not a yes, assume it’s a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:41 PM
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Someone just having options isn’t an asshole move though, it’s purposely making it known to the other person that you have options in order to manipulate them. And if a man has desirable qualities, then a woman probably knows he has options. I’ve seen women do this exact kind of manipulative shit to men as well btw, hence why I asked the question. If a woman was being flirty and receptive to the advances of an attractive man to make you jealous, this would be totally fine with you then right? Ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:18 PM
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But if someone is a good person and is treating you well then why? That just sounds like a dick move. Would you like it if a woman you were dating started reminding you that she can leave you for other/better men if she wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:48 PM
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Do women not say this to men who are in unhealthy relationships? I’ve said this to both men and women I know who have a shitty partner. “Shitty” is subjective, but people should know that they deserve to be with someone who won’t treat them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:39 PM
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Extroverted people do tend to flirt more and have more partners so I can understand the logic, but in my experience people who dress alt don’t tend to be extroverts or people who like putting themselves out there in social situations at all. They tend to be more the shy type. Just because you dress a certain way doesn’t necessarily mean you crave attention or have good social skills. In fact, a lot of people dye their hair and have piercings because they don’t like fitting in and so they are als…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:29 PM
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You do realize that “pattern recognition” is open to personal bias, don’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 05:10 AM
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Do you have any source for that claim? What does dyeing your hair and having piercings have to do with having lots of sex? Tattoos can be a risk, but people generally think over permanent body alterations and plan them out before getting them done. It’s not exactly impulsive. And what major life risk is one taking by using some hair dye? Ending up with a hair color that doesn’t flatter your skin tone?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:45 AM
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Partying and drugs, I agree. But It’s always so bizarre to me when men correlate dyed hair and alt fashion with promiscuity, because the demographic of women who dress alt are usually the polar opposite of the clubbing and drinking types. They’re often the introverted homebodies (with some exceptions of course). If you’ve ever been part of the alt community you’d know that scene has more of a history of looking down on the clubbing and doing drugs types than joining them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:26 PM
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How does that equal evidence? It could be the same women cheating while younger and while older, but it could also be different women. Or a mix of both. You would have to include a question on the age the cheating occurred to get actual evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:47 PM
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Unless the woman in question loves some barely legal teen porn herself then how is it hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:31 PM
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It’s possible, but this study does not provide any evidence of that claim so your statement is only theoretical. According to the link I posted, they theorize that it’s generational, considering that past studies have shown that women’s cheating rates have gone up compared to past generations. ”A generation or cohort effect is likely to contribute to this shifting gender gap in infidelity.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:12 PM
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More than men in the same age group, but not more than older women. Older women only cheat less compared to older men because men’s cheating rates go up dramatically past the younger age demographic. But women’s cheating goes up as well. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:30 PM
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To me being dominant is about taking the lead, being sexually aggressive, and doing what makes me feel powerful. And receiving reactions from the submissive party, me taking charge and them getting pleasure by giving up control.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:22 PM
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Not at all. I’ve wanted to fuck friends before even though I knew it wasn’t an option and it doesn’t make me value the friendship or them as a person any less. The only case where it would devalue things is if you’re only friends with them to try and sleep with/date them. Or If you’re so preoccupied with the idea of getting with them to the point where you know you would be bitter if they dated someone other people. In that case it’s probably a good idea to distance yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:26 PM
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I think it’s moreso the reverse. The majority of women would be the most sexually attracted to a man in his 20s if they were just going by pure physical attraction and weren’t factoring in maturity and other qualities. This is purely my personal opinion and may be wrong, but you see a lot of women saying they date/sleep with men their own age or older because men younger than them act too immature. Physical attraction isn’t usually given as a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:11 PM
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If your argument is that women are only willing to sleep with a man who has looks, status, money or personality but men are willing to sleep with just about anybody who has a vagina then this just sounds like an argument for how men have no self respect and women do lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:12 PM
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It’s not them, it’s you. There’s no particular thing that makes them not relationship material, you just aren’t in the right place in life for a relationship at the moment. You like fucking them but you don’t have compatible enough lifestyles/values. Or they possess some trait that you can put up with short term but wouldn’t be acceptable long term. Or you just don’t particularly like their personality. You just don’t like them that way and there’s no deeper logical reason. I really don’t unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:07 PM
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But how is it that women under 30 cheat more than men, then at 30 they settle down and cheat less than men? Because women under 30 don’t cheat more than women over 30. Older women cheat equally or more than younger women. Cheating amongst women actually peaks at the highest for women in their 60’s (16% vs 11% for women in their 20s). It’s also higher for women in their 40s, 50s, and 70s than it is for the under 30 demographic. It only drops below that for women above 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:29 PM
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OHH I LOVE being dominant. Personally I don’t associate pegging with domination or powerplay though, I see it as just another sex act. For me, being dominant is more of a primal expression of sexuality than having anything to do with who’s doing the penetrating. I’d much rather fuck someone and do dom shit while on top than with a strap on. I have never pegged anyone, but If a man I’m with was like “fuck me in the ass with a dildo” then I’d be like ok bet. I’m pretty much open to try anything on…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:28 PM
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From your link: hormonal IUD side effects can include: Pain when the IUD is put in, and cramping or back aches for a few days after spotting between periods irregular periods
/r/MensRights31/07/22 03:59 AM
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By aesthetic attraction I’m assuming you mean attraction to someone’s looks but correct me if I’m wrong. There has to be a bare minimum of attraction to their looks for me to be attracted to them in the first place, and then personality and behavior can make me more or less attracted to them after that point. I would pick a partner I find physically attractive and who’s personality appeals to me and be more attracted to them over someone who’s physically hotter but has a worse personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:58 PM
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Reading is hard, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:30 PM
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Nah. I don’t give a fuck about a man’s money or success. I have no interest in anything of material value from a partner. I don’t believe that men should pay for dates and in fact I’d rather spend money on a partner than let them spend it on me. The only things a man (or woman) has that I’m interested in is sex and perhaps companionship. To clarify my wording in the first part of my comment, maybe catching feels wasn’t the right term. I can like a man’s personality and it won’t make me sexually …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:28 AM
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If men have to work for sex because it’s hard to get women to sleep with you, and women don’t have to work for sex because men are easy, that makes men the slutty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:10 AM
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But women only don’t have to work for sex because men are hoes. The catch 22 of sluttery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:53 AM
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If he’s the one who wants unprotected sex and she doesn’t want to deal with side effects then it makes sense that he be the one to offer to get the procedure done. What’s selfish is expecting someone else to deal with getting a painful procedure so you can have unprotected sex. If I was dating a guy and I was the only one who hated condoms it’d be entitled as fuck of me to request that he get a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:41 AM
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This isn’t how attraction works for me. Catching feelings doesn’t lead to sexual attraction. And sexual attraction doesn’t lead to catching feelings. They’re separate (but not entirely unrelated) things. Personality can increase or decrease my attraction for someone but there’s gotta be a base level of attraction there in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:40 PM
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The women you’re replying to said herself that the way her sexuality works isn’t the most common. If you see one women saying something which goes against what you’ve observed in other women it’s not necessarily because one of them must be wrong or is being dishonest. You do realize that women are individuals and individuals do different things and have different opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:33 PM
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Spot on analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:17 PM
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The majority of women on here are neither a part of RP nor FDS. A lot of women who post in this sub are either married or in relationships and aren’t anti men. I’ve only seen a few posters here who identify with FDS, and a few others who I suspect might be a part of that community as they tend to have opinions which align with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:12 PM
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You’re underestimating how hot a woman has to be in order to gain a massive following online. That hot girl from your class and the attractive (but more girl next door type) girl are still both in the upper tier of attractiveness. They aren’t average. The average women can get more attention on social media than the average man, but there’s no way she’s getting thousands of followers based on looks. The negative effects of social media shouldn’t be ignored, but it usually has the opposite effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:40 PM
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Maybe this isn’t an abnormal lifestyle for super attractive women. But it’s not particularly relevant in a discussion about general dating culture, considering that 99% of women are not being flown out to Mykonos and given expensive gifts or having gang bangs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:55 PM
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Women have never had equal control as men over avoiding being effected by accidental pregnancy though. We don’t get to choose to avoid dealing with the potential risks of sex and avoid the responsibilities of abortion, pregnancy, and pregnancy prevention. And yes, men haven’t had the right to avoid reproductive responsibility either. I’m not arguing that that is fair for men, my point is that reproductive responsibilities can never truly be even due to the fact that the reproduction process has …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:24 AM
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The differences in consequences of accidental pregnancy for women and men are much larger than a few “additional complications”. I would argue that men and women’s situations had more in common yesterday than today, because both had an equal right to body autonomy yesterday, whereas today less women than men have that. Like I said in my prior arguments, women aren’t bemoaning a massive injustice against women while justifying the same thing continuing to happen against men. Women are bemoaning t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:40 AM
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I didn’t say the financial aspect was irrelevant, I said it’s not the equivalent. There are different arguments for the right to abortion. Some of these arguments also apply to financial abortion and some only apply to physical abortion. it’s a complicated subject and until we invent artificial wombs, there is no solution that is truly “fair” and leads to a result where men and women have equal outcomes, responsibilities, and risks for an unintended pregnancy. It’s not necessarily hypocritical t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:00 AM
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My argument wasn’t just about lethal pregnancies though, that’s only one thing of all the things I listed that effect women exclusively when it comes to the risks and harm of pregnancy. My point is that physical pregnancy is not the same thing as having to pay someone money. The argument of women being forced to carry a pregnancy being the same as men being forced to pay some money is a false equivalency. I don’t live in an area where this law effects me, but if I did the most unnerving thing wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:17 PM
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You’re conveniently ignoring the entire compulsory carrying of a pregnancy, compulsory birthing, compulsory severe pain, potential permanent health effects, body changes and possible death that come come from those things. How exactly is this “men and women having it equal”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:10 PM
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I think it’s moreso socialization that’s the difference rather then anatomy. Men who have sex with men often have a very different attitude about sex than straight men. I’m not a gay man and thus don’t speak from personal experience, but it does seem like reciprocation and mutual desire to please is a lot more the norm amongst gay men. There are gay/bi men who want to hook up with men just to suck dick and they aren’t looking for anything in return. Not that there aren’t straight men who view se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:11 AM
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It depends. Some people just have very few expectations they put on a partner. They aren’t demanding, but they are prone to being taken advantage of by a person who enjoys that they can get their own needs met while putting no effort into meeting the other person’s needs. And then other people always have certain expectations for a how a partner treats them and they won’t lower those expectations just because someone looks pretty. Then you have the cases where someone is willing to sacrifice cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:42 PM
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You’re really asking what’s wrong with a man “extracting as much as he can from a woman”?? Most people don’t want to associate themselves with anyone who thinks of their interactions with other people like this. That’s toxic as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:56 PM
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Homegirl needs to learn how to communicate better. She should just be straight up with him about what she wants, and make sure she provides condoms this time. Either she gets laid or he says no. In which case she can further implore why he doesn’t want to have sex. If he’s trying to respect her boundaries and there’s a miscommunication issue, they can work that out so they’re on the same page. If he has anxiety around sex or wants to take things slow then maybe there are ways she can make him fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:49 AM
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I already explained multiple times why the arguments for physical abortion and financial abortion are different discussions due to the fact that they revolve around two different kinds of autonomy and hence the argument for actual abortion does not apply to “financial abortion” interchangeably. and you have yet to offer an actual counter argument to the points I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:31 PM
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Men already can opt out of fatherhood. No one can force a person to be involved in a child’s life, they just have to pay child support. If a person is pro choice because they believe that no one should be forced to parent due to financial reasons, then it is hypocritical for them to be against financial abortion. But if they are pro choice because they believe that no one should be forced to carry a pregnancy and give birth then this argument only applies to actual abortion and it does not make …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:12 PM
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You can’t give men and women the same rights in this situation because abortion does not effect men and women in the same way. Men are not at risk of having their right to body autonomy taken away because men (excluding transgender men) do not get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:17 PM
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Why did you chose your gf over a less attractive woman? If her looks were part of why you decided to date her, you don’t exactly have the moral high ground to judge women for being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:27 AM
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Physical and financial abortion are two separate debates. You can be pro physical abortion and anti financial abortion without being hypocritical, because these two things are not the same act and thus the same arguments can’t be applied to both things. For example, the whole argument of body autonomy does not apply to financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:26 PM
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Yes!! If I watch porn with men it in it, it’s exclusively solo male or gay porn. That subreddit with audio of men moaning is also good. I would LOVE to see straight porn that actually caters to the female gaze and focuses on the man’s body and reactions. It’s crazy that the internet is filled with porn of every fetish you can image, yet if you want a single video with something as basic as a man fucking a women except the camera is focused on his face and him moaning then you’re shit out of luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:48 PM
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Yes, I get that. My point isn’t just that this perspective is obviously selfish, but also that it’s not logical. You said in another reply that women aren’t capable of detaching our emotions and thus will always be biased, but your whole argument is based entirely on your own personal feelings and biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:28 PM
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That’s an emotional argument, not a logical one. Why, logically, is you getting your needs met more important than someone else getting their needs met?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:35 AM
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“Who cares what women want, MY happiness is the only thing that matters” is not exactly a logical argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:00 AM
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Hahahha. I’ve said things (on this sub and elsewhere) where I mentioned something that is shitty for women and how it doesn’t mean men don’t also have problems or face unfair treatment and how I’m not blaming all men and STILL have had men responding with a rant about how I’m being a misandrist and generalizing men, that I’m being unfair and hateful to men or have no empathy for men’s issues. And that’s with numerous disclaimers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:49 PM
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I wouldn’t be surprised if bi people tend to have higher standards from their partners and are less likely to allow unfair treatment from the opposite gender. I have high standards for the effort I expect to put in. But dating women has also made me have higher standards for men in comparison to most straight women I know. When you have the same standards for men that you do for women it makes you very aware of the treatment you don’t have to be ok with from a partner. Realizing that you don’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:00 PM
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The main reason for this is that a lot of women won’t make the first move, hence why they end up with men way more often than women. They choose whoever pursues first rather than who’s the ideal option. Although I’m sure some for some of those cases it is women who just prefer men over women, or women who like women sexually but not for relationships. I’ve seen a number of posts on bi subreddits of women who say they prefer women but they find it too difficult to get women so they always end up …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:47 PM
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When people say being nice is the minimum, they’re talking in terms of moral standards. They don’t mean that being nice is some sort of entry ticket towards ultimately getting what you want. The entire point is that being nice doesn’t entitle you to being owed some sort of reward, it’s just the bare minimum standard of how you should be treating people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:48 PM
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Nah, I’ve definitely seen men who have options specifically go for the crazy, toxic or commitment issue having woman and ignore the “good girls” who would treat him better and are sometimes even better looking. Some people (especially when young) will chose the option that makes them feel the most and excites them over the objectively better and more stable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:15 PM
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Where is the law saying that men are required to pay higher taxes for being men? If you’re talking about how people in higher paying jobs have to pay more in taxes, that’s due to their own choice to take that job. This situation equally applies to women. And both men and women have complete free will to not work a high earning job where they will be forced to pay higher taxes. If you’re taking about tax breaks that benefit families over single people, again single women and single men without de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:46 AM
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But, it's the same people doing the exact same thing. So, it's a perfect example of the sheer hypocrisy of feminism and double standards for men and women. Financial exploitation and sexual exploitation are not the exact same thing though. Not just in my subjective opinion. Those two things are objectively different concepts and you’re making a false equivalency between them. Which is why your argument of how these two things are treated differently by society means sexism or a double standard a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:52 PM
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Women make bad dating decisions, sure. But your point doesn’t make any sense because I don’t see women on here complaining about dating guys who have money but don’t look hot enough. It’s a common complaint of men on this sub that this is a societal issue. That women are doing this and are benefiting from it while the men in those relationships are being used for their resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:48 PM
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Most of the women I see on dating apps use fairly straight on angles. Maybe it depends on your age range and location. And the fact that where I live people are relatively fit. The filters are a bit out of hand though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:52 PM
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That’s true, although I’ve see women complain about men doing the same by using out of date photos as well. I agree that men tend to (probably unintentionally) represent themselves as worse looking through their photos and women tend to do the opposite. But I wasn’t just referring to women who do those things. I’m just talking about basic flattering lighting and straight on angles here. Which men perhaps could benefit from using on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:29 PM
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Sexual attraction isn’t a logical process for anyone. Men aren’t sitting down and crunching the numbers when they decide who to be attracted to. In fact isn’t that a major complaint from men on this sub? That some women go for men who have the right stats on paper, men who have money and resources, rather than men who provoke visceral sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:02 PM
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The profiles themselves can be equally bad, but women take far higher better photos. And a lot of people judge based on photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:37 PM
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How so do you mean? If anything I’ve noticed the opposite. I’ve heard some weird shit from straight men just in casual conversations about how disgusting they think vaginas are or some other negative thing about women and women’s bodies. I’ve never heard anything like that from a bi man or a bi woman. This is anecdotal, but in my experience bi men and women tend to be more likely to genuinely appreciate women than a lot of straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:13 AM
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I’m not sure what issue you have with my reply. Do you disagree that women are as capable of being abusers as men? I honestly have no clue how you read what I said and somehow took from it that I don’t empathize with domestic violence victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:03 AM
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There isn’t a specific epidemic consisting solely of women abusing men, if that’s how you interpreted that statement. But women are just as capable of being abusers as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:54 AM
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Being a Karens isn’t exclusive to women. There are plenty of male Karens too. The phenomenon of Karen behavior is linked to race and class privilege though. There’s a lot of discussion out there if you look into this phenomenon, around middle-class white women using societal privilege against those lower down the social ladder and how this impacts minorities. But the fact that there isn’t a popular male equivalent of the term does seem to be an example of men (white men anyway) getting away with…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:27 PM
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Divorce is also a great option in that scenario, yes. I don’t mean that you should never get married if you’re concerned about experiencing relationship issues. But if you’re gonna justify cheating when you’re unhappy rather than just ending the relationship, don’t get into a relationship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:30 AM
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I don’t leave my house that much so not often. I’ve mainly gotten hit on at parks and at bus stops but it’s always older men who I’m not interested in, never guys my own age. I don’t go out to bars or clubs. I cosplayed at an anime convention this past month and got hit on a handful of times during the convention and while walking home.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:07 AM
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If you’re gonna cheat on your partner if they don’t have sex with you as much as you want then you probably should not be getting married in the first place. Doesn’t sound like commitment is for you if that’s your mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:20 AM
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I didn’t mean to be a downer with the last paragraph. It’s just what I’ve noticed as a trend with those types of women, but there are always outliers. In my opinion your most likely bet would be women in more liberal/artsy circles who openly express a disinterest in traditional gender roles. There are also more gender non conforming women in LGBT spaces. Even if you’re straight or not specifically looking for a date, those spaces tend to be very accepting of those who don’t fit into typical gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:56 AM
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It depends on what you consider masculine. I do feel that I possess more stereotypical masculine traits than most women, but I wouldn’t consider my personality to be confined to the masculine or feminine. I don’t relate to much of the description you wrote about masculine women. I don’t desire dominance over others (unless we’re talking sexually) and I don’t go around starting shit with people. I’d never commit violence against anyone for no reason. But I’m not the type to shy away from confront…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:28 AM
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Being young looking isn’t a turn off to me (assuming they don’t literally look like a child). Youth is associated with femininity and I like feminine men. But it depends on whether they take advantage of their assets by leaning in to a more androgynous aesthetic or not. Men who are baby faced and who try to look more masculine don’t do anything for me. But tbf I don’t find non baby faced masculine men attractive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:54 AM
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I don’t see anything wrong with hurting someone because they get pleasure from pain. But if a person likes hurting someone while knowing the other person is only suffering and not getting pleasure then that’s... concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:51 PM
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Pregnancy risks are still a thing, true. But I do believe that more women would be willing to overlook the risk if the perceived benefits were high as opposed to low. That’s how risk assessment generally works. The other two things you listed aren’t exclusive to sleeping with men. Men are only met by criticisms as the default of being shitty in bed even if it doesn’t apply to them personally because of the actions of men who do act like that. That’s my whole point, this behavior being common rui…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:38 AM
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Consenting to something means that you’re willing to do it, not necessarily that you enjoy it. If by your first point you meant that you only want to hurt women who are upfront about being into that then that’s more understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:33 AM
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If you enjoy hurting people who don’t like being hurt then it sounds like you need to go see a therapist. That’s some psychopath shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:25 AM
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Bestie, that’s called physical abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:18 AM
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I don’t think there’s a correlation between a woman being feminine or masculine and liking pain in the bedroom. So I don’t really understand this response. Unless you mean a woman who works out has a higher pain tolerance, but you can have a high pain tolerance and not enjoy being hurt during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:57 AM
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No, I experience attraction towards hot women more than I experience jealous thoughts towards them. I guess if I had to choose which one makes me more envious, it’s the people who were born attractive over the ones who payed for their hotness. Because in that case what they have seems more attainable, and they put in the work rather than getting it for free. I do notice that a lot of men are pretty bad at spotting what’s natural and what isn’t when it comes to women. Men will compliment you on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:50 AM
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As a bi women who has no issue getting women I agree that it tends to be much easier for a woman to sleep with women casually or date them. And If you’re femme and dominant in bed you essentially have your pick of women. Including some straight ones. I don’t agree with your conclusion that it’s because women treat women the same as men do though. Or that women have a lower threshold for how they’re treated by other women than by men. In fact it’s the opposite. A big reason why women are more rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:31 AM
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Men tend to have bushier eyebrows than women (depends on the person and their genetics tho).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:23 PM
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The female sex drive is feminist propaganda. You heard it here on r/PurplePillDebate first, folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:36 PM
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You can chalk the media and porn up to society just catering heavily to men sexually. And possibly for the same reason, or maybe for other reasons, women tend to consume alternative porn formats. Women usually don’t pay for porn (just like many men) but still contribute to the industry through ad revenue. Movies like magic mike and fifty shades of grey make plenty of money at the box office. It’s not like there isn’t a market for this. There are other countries that do cater more to women in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:32 PM
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Would highly recommend improv or acting classes to anyone who struggles with social anxiety. I was a shy kid and doing improv/acting gave me more confidence than any therapy has (not that therapy isn’t also helpful for other reasons). Ironically for people who are shy, the idea of performing in front of a group is intimidating and often the last thing you want to do. But this is one of those scenarios where throwing yourself into the deep and dealing with the discomfort is worth it. It’s like ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 02:31 AM
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It depends on who’s choice it is for that person to be the authority figure. There are people who prefer their partner to make the decisions and take the lead in the relationship. If this is the dynamic both people have mutually agreed upon with equal input then it’s not unhealthy. The aspects which make this dynamic healthy are that the “leader” takes their partners needs into account equally rather than just demanding to get their own way. And the “follower” has equal say at the end of the day…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:43 AM
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I’d start going to local small scale raves/EDM events. And maybe learn to DJ or pick up some fire/poi spinning skills. The people in that community are SUPER friendly, it’s really easy to meet people even if you’re shy. Men or women who were new to the community were always warmly welcomed. Not saying that translates directly to it being easy to get interest from women but my male friends in that community who put themselves out there usually had partners. My main dating strategies if I were a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:57 AM
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The thing is, the vast majority of women would not want a man who thinks that her virginity is the only thing she really has to offer as a partner. Even women who are virgins. This type of man sounds like exactly the type you want to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 02:37 AM
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I can relate (although not the same specifics). It grosses me out when men are more into you because you’re less experienced than them. The idea that if you wanna attract decent men you should have a lower body count is so inaccurate. Unpopular opinion I’m sure but coming off as sluttier than you are is definitely more of a pro than a con in dating and attracts better and more egalitarian men who don’t have sexist hang ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:59 AM
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If it was just a post about having a difficult time finding a partner when she tells them about her past I could believe it. But the part where every man she meets immediately asks her how many people she’s slept with is what makes it sound made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:40 AM
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Not the best equivalent because lot of women who can only get off from vibrators seem to have always been that way, they could never get off from just fingers. I don’t know what percentage of women who can only get off from a vibrator this accounts for, but if you google this issue most of the women who report being like that say they couldn’t orgasm before they bought a vibrator. Although I’m sure this can also be the case with men who have death grip. Women can also experience “death grip” by …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 09:16 PM
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If you find 40 year old men more attractive than younger ones then that’s fine. But I’m pretty sure the majority of women in my age range would pick 25 year old Brad Pitt over 40 year old Brad Pitt. There are certainly exceptions (I have friends who are into DILFS) and 40 year old Brad Pitt is attractive for his age, he surely wouldn’t be lacking for options. But in my opinion he was hottest when he was young. No one I know from my generation brings him up when we’re talking about men we find at…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 08:46 PM
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No joke I had an discussion a while back on this sub with some dude who was arguing that women expecting a guy to be mindful of his own hygiene and make sure he doesn’t stink before having sex was crazy and that he wasn’t going to put up with women’s ridiculous standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:49 AM
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I’ve been around femdom spaces online off and on and I’ve come across men who have sexist/redpill views there. There are definitely men who hate women yet want women to beat them up so I don’t know how much redpill views really correlate with someone’s BDSM preferences. Quite a lot of men in the femdom community in addition who just view women as kink dispensers to fulfill their sexual fantasies. Women’s desires being ignored and pushed aside in femdom in favor of men’s is actually a pretty big …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:12 AM
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Maybe. You really shouldn’t be making promises if you don’t know how you’re gonna feel about someone after you sleep with them though. I wouldn’t tell anyone I’m sure that I’m interested in a relationship before having sex cause (assuming sex is important to you) you gotta make sure you’re sexually compatible with someone you plan on committing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 02:23 AM
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I agree that the culture needs to change so that men aren’t shamed for their lack of dating experience. As for your second point, have you seen the Internet?you really think women aren’t already criticized in public forums all the time? We (not just women, men to) are already much more likely to be criticized by the public than by people we know. It would be beneficial for everyone to look at their patterns of behavior and choices critically. And there is some good advice out there on how to avo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:27 PM
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That just sounds kinda sociopathic ngl. To want to have power over others by causing harm to them. And this is coming from someone who gets pleasure from dominating sexually in a consensual and mutually enjoyable context. Hurting people emotionally by accident just makes me feel like shit cause y’know basic empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:30 PM
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She said that he agreed with her about not wanting something casual though. She told him she wasn’t interested in something casual or having sex unless he was interested in her romantically and then he lied about his intentions. If it wasn’t for that then it could have just been a miscommunication issue and wasn’t the guy’s fault, but it sounds like in this case he was just being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 10:21 PM
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Since when does being sexually active not count if you’re having sex in a relationship? Why not just ask how many men we believe are actively having casual sex in the post title if that’s what the question is here? Anyway, the percent likely varies amongst different age groups and whether the person is putting themselves in social situations and/or actually pursuing sex or not. I’m sure it’s lower for men who don’t socialize much and don’t put themselves out there (which includes many younger pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 01:25 AM
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It varies depending on the environment. Sometimes it’s none and then other times I walk around and see numerous men that I find hot and would be interested in. But even on those days it’s still less than 5% of men overall that catch my eye. I’m not actually that picky about facial features or height but I find men sexually attractive who are more androgynous and who put effort into their looks. Which isn’t a large pool unless I’m in an environment with a lot of alt or non-heterosexual people. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:39 AM
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This is the same for me. My attraction to men tends to be more intense but I see farrrr more women than men a regular basis that I have some degree of attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:03 AM
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No, I don’t kink shame. Open mindedness is important to me in a sex partner so I’m all for men who are into unconventional sex acts. Doesn’t necessarily mean I’ll be into it too, but I’ll probably be down to try it. I’ve had people tell me far more out there things that they enjoy than wanting their ass eaten. I’m not really into pegging but the other things you listed would be a turn on to me. I like being dominant. There are a lot of women who wouldn’t date a guy who liked being submissive, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:01 PM
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I’ve been friends with men who I thought were very kind, empathetic people but then they say things that makes you realize they don’t actually treat women equally and they feel entitled to certain things just because of the status quo which they never bothered to question or realize that they benefit from. Like men who say they hate it when people treat others unfairly and that they are against traditional gender roles. And they seem like kind, selfless people. But then you find out that they le…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:37 PM
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Yep. A lot of people are attracted to the drama. It’s about how that person makes them feel rather then picking the logical and safe option. No one really wants a partner who mistreats them but they also don’t want to be bored. They want the person who excites them despite the relationship being entirely toxic. Especially when young. It probably gets old once you’ve matured and are done dealing with people’s shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 08:01 PM
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Sixedth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 09:51 PM
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Having options doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with it. There are men without options who still make difficult or terrible partners. There are many men (and women for that matter) who make themselves seem like a great partner in the beginning but then once they get the relationship they lose the facade and start acting like an asshole once they think the other person is too attached to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:32 PM
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Most women aren’t dating older, successful men in our 20s. Women date men who are a few years older on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 07:15 PM
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Men and women are both crazy and men are definitely not less insane, less drama, or less difficult. There are plenty of people who fit those traits regardless of gender. It really depends on the man or the woman. The general consensus is that it’s far easier to get into a relationship with a man. But If you ask whether it’s easier to coexist in a relationship with a man or with a woman then the answer varies between individuals. Online in bi female spaces there seems to be a trend of women sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:45 PM
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Doesn’t matter, had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:42 PM
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I said the same thing about the short guy. He’s not unattractive but the haircut is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:13 PM
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1: 5/10 he’s very average looking, basic haircut, doesn’t do anything special to his look. He looks like a lot of men I walk by on the street. 2: 7/10 he has lovely hair and his face is decent looking. I’d be interested in him. Mainly because of his hair. He would probably look better if he stopped making that expression (in the begging as he’s being rated) where he’s scrunching up his face, but you can tell he’s doing it cause he’s self conscious about being looked at. it’s kind of cute. 3: 7.5…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 03:41 PM
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1: 7/10 she’s pretty but part of what makes her stand out is the makeup, she still has great features but would probably be a bit lower without it 2: 8/10 I watched part of the video and she’s hot, but her front profile is more flattering than the side profile in the screenshot 3: 5.5/10 average looking but she has pretty eyes and a nice smile 4: 4/10 I don’t find her unattractive but I would rate her a bit lower than average 5: 7/10 pretty but the nondescript kind of pretty 6: 7/10 she has beau…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 12:12 PM
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Casual sex doesn’t ruin your prospects of being a worthy partner. Having had casual sex lessens your prospects of dating a certain type of person who would not approve, but that’s true for men who have casual sex as well. Slutty people will just avoid dating the people who don’t approve of their sluttery and everyone will get into relationships with people who they are compatible with. I don’t know if they should feel guilty about it, but they should acknowledge that they are contributing to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:54 PM
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Most men are also fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:06 PM
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Outright lying about it probably isn’t the norm. But as a women in the same age range, like other women have also said on this thread, women implying they’ve had more sexual experience than they do is definitely a thing. In contrast to previous generations, nowadays to a lot of women being seen as inexperienced or vanilla is lame compared to being kinky and experienced. Ironically everyone is actually having less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:00 PM
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Women aren’t hurt as much by being cheated on and lied to as men are?? That is entirely your personal opinion and is not rooted in anything factual. By your own logic men don’t care about being cheated on either because many of those high status men likely turn a blind eye when their wife has an affair as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:29 PM
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My sister and I are both gen z and she’s a teen, I’m an adult. Gen z are those born around late 90’s to 2012.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:29 PM
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Those things definitely fall into the harassment category.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:26 PM
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It’s not the men who approach me and aren’t my type who are the issue, it’s the ones who are pushy and aggressive and won’t leave you alone. Or the ones who follow you and harass you when you’re just minding your own business. Not to say sexual harassment doesn’t happen to men too, but the problem most women are complaining about is bigger than people taking to you and you not being interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:48 PM
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Gen z is having less sex than millennials. The women and the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:19 AM
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This is interesting because it’s been my exact experience as well. I’m sure my own personality is a factor here as well, but the idea that you have to prove yourself as the best choice to these guys because they have so many options for partners and hence are assholes or ambivalent towards women is far from true. In reality there are plenty of men like this who are very clingy and are constantly seeking attention and validation. I don’t have a problem with it and I don’t find it unattractive but…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:05 AM
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Women who currently participate in casual sex aren’t the people who believe women are ruined or degraded by having sex. It’s men (the ones who believe in traditional gender roles for women I mean) who believe women are ruined by casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:24 AM
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Definitely. This is why so many movies, and romance or erotic novels popular with women have a male lead who’s kind of a dick to everyone else but he dotes on and spoils the female lead. It’s the same reasoning for men who want a woman who turns everyone else down but is slutty with them. Or emotionally unavailable people with commitment issues being like catnip. None of it is exactly logical but these are very common desires. People want to feel special. They want to feel like they’re scoring b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 06:56 AM
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Taking advantage of someone doesn’t just mean rape. I guess it depends on your definition on the term but men (not necessarily all men) take advantage of the societal gender dynamics which benefit men all the time without considering how it’s unfair or being empathetic to the other person, and women do this as well. Women taking advantage and expecting men to pay on dates knowing many men will put up with it since it’s the social norm. Men taking advantage and expecting women to do an unfair por…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:15 AM
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Logically this makes sense, but in reality you’d be surprised how common it is for guys with little or no options to mistreat women anyway, because for some reason they feel entitled and believe she’ll put up with being treated bad. Maybe there’s a sexism component to it, they believe women are too agreeable or passive to leave so they think they can get away with it. Or maybe they just lack the impulse control to not be a dick. Not a smart move on their part for sure since when the women doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:31 AM
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For some it could be validation, I’ve heard some women say they used to sleep around and used sex as form of validation or even self harm. But for the majority I think it’s as simple as they’re just horny and hoping to get lucky with someone who doesn’t suck in bed. If the genders were reversed and men had easy access to sex but it was hard to find satisfying sex I imagine it would be a similar outcome. They would be frustrated and upset with the lack of actual satisfying sex but it probably wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:06 AM
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Yep. The only reason I’m pro choice is because I don’t think it’s ethical for the government to have a say in anyone’s body autonomy. The argument for abortion and the argument for “financial abortion” are different debates because those things are not the equivalent of each other in the first place. The debate of what’s fair and what’s not when it comes to abortion will always be lopsided. It’s not fair on men that they have less choice of what occurs after impregnation but women and men never …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:31 AM
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This ridiculous mindset is exactly the reason why many people don’t take male rape victims seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:05 AM
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Yay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:17 AM
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I’m not arguing that makeup is masculine, just that it’s arbitrary whether it’s considered masculine or feminine. Like you said, It’s just paint for your face. I’ve known straight men who wear makeup. And lot of women find it hot (myself included). The majority of men who wear makeup aren’t straight I agree, but that’s probably because it’s seen as more acceptable for gay/bi men than for straight men. This is changing though. Technically not makeup, but straight men painting their nails is prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 12:58 PM
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You can actually contour your face using makeup to make your bone structure more prominent. Makeup to fill in the hairline is also a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 12:42 PM
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What makes makeup not manly? You can be a masculine and wear makeup. In certain very prominent cultures historically (such as in European aristocracy and ancient Egypt), men wearing makeup wasn’t effeminate. Makeup was a sign of power and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 12:39 PM
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I prefer boobs over ass. I already bring ass to the table in significant quantity, so I need the yin (titties) to my yang.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:49 AM
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I never said someone is deserving of empathy because they can’t date the people they’re attracted to. If you can’t find someone who meets your standards and is interested in you back then the reality is you’re gonna have to settle for being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:08 AM
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Women are pickier but the comparison still stands. I see men complaining on this sub all the time that women are interested in them but they’re all unattractive/the wrong body type/the wrong ethnicity...etc. I’m not arguing that men and women are equally likely to be in the scenario of meeting a great person who they just aren’t attracted to. I agree it’s harder for women to find a guy who meets her standards for attraction and hence more women being single by choice than men. My point is that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:02 AM
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No, men who are users and the men who she’s not interested in but would treat her well are both not desired for partners. Of course the men who use her are doing more damage than the ones who have better intentions. But that doesn’t mean she wants to be with either of those categories of men. This isn’t exclusive to gender. Do men want women who use them or do they want women with good intentions whom they aren’t attracted to or interested in? Neither. Most men and women want a sex/romantic part…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:34 AM
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It’s not more value if she’s not attracted to him and doesn’t want him to be her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:12 AM
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That’s literally my point. Assigning a specific kind of labor and sacrifice to all women when it’s only a percentage this applies to is a generalization and doesn’t make for an accurate argument. Same with your point that men and women aren’t equal because men take on higher risk jobs. This doesn’t apply to the majority of men. You could argue it’s reducing men down to their ability to do physical labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:34 PM
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I don’t get this framing of sexual relationships as women setting the standard for “gaining access to sex”. Most women aren’t going around considering if we should let some guy have access to sex with us. People have sex when they want sex. If they want sex with someone on the first date they’ll do that, if they don’t want that then they won’t. Men also have lower sex drives and are less horny as they get older so you apply this same scenario to men. Most women don’t want to be with a man who vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:23 AM
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I agree. There’s a difference between craving and enjoying something regularly and being addicted to it. Anything you consume regularly of corse does have an effect on your how your neurons fire. But it’s only considered an addiction if it’s effecting your life negatively like of you skip work to watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:13 AM
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The vast majority of the male gender are not firefighters. You could make a similar argument that women provide more fatal labor than men since a higher percentage of women die in childbirth than men who die every year fighting fires. About 60-70 firefighters die every year on site, about 700 women in the US die in childbirth per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:57 AM
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The difference is that OCD is an anxiety disorder, it’s not like an addiction where you get pleasure and crave more of that thing that gave you pleasure. There aren’t any dopamine highs with OCD. It’s all hell and zero pleasure. The root isn’t even the compulsion itself, it’s the debilitating anxiety the person gets that is only lessened when they do the compulsion. If you have OCD you’re suffering, your life being negatively affected by it is in the criteria for the diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:50 AM
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I don’t care about how much porn anyone watches at all, unless I’m sleeping with them and it impacts the sex negatively. I don’t believe porn is inherently harmful, but It’s important to be self aware about any kind of media you’re watching, social media, or what you read and the effects it has on you. Everything you consume effects your brain on a subconscious level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:29 AM
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OCD is a whole separate mental illness and doesn’t have to do with addictions, obsession or obsessive behavior is a more accurate term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:23 AM
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Dude redheads make up 1-2% of the global population (maybe higher in whatever country you live in but my point is they’re a statistical minority). And once you not factor in personality, body type, sex drive...etc that number shrinks. Your taste in partners is much pickier than the norm. Nothing wrong with that, but you gotta accept if you’re that picky you may be single for a while before someone who meets your requirements comes along. Most average women who want a guy who only exists in 1-2% …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:04 AM
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Men (and women) in younger generations do seem lacking in social skills and confidence. But I think it has more to do with our lack of real world experience and so much of our upbringing revolving around the Internet compared to previous generations. We’re so much more isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:38 AM
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I’m 24 and I don’t find men in their 30s and 40s attractive at all besides a few younger looking 30 year olds and some celebrities who aged well. I find men 18-28ish the most attractive and I’ve always wondered if that’ll change when I’m older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:29 AM
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That’s true to a degree, people who have insecurities and don’t feel desired tend to care more about sexual validation than ones who feel more societally desirable. But also validation from men wanting to sleep with you doesn’t really hold as much power (to women) as the validation men get from women wanting to sleep with them. Not that all men are actually like this, but the widely believed stereotype is that men aren’t picky and want to get with tons of women. If someone finds you sexy but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:50 AM
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I’ve seen takes from some men on here which have made me question whether they possess basic empathy. A lot of not getting why it’s unethical to manipulate, lie to and use people and justifications of any harmful behavior as long as it gets them what they want. And they admit that they would hate for someone to manipulate or use them but can’t wrap their heads around why it’s wrong to treat someone else that way. There’s also the sociopathic trait of “deceit for the goal of exploiting others” wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:48 AM
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I wouldn’t say this is how “female sexuality” works as a rule. Maybe what you described is more common and I’m just an outlier. But If I see a guy I’m attracted to I don’t think about “giving him a chance to fuck me”. I’m mainly thinking about all the things I want do to him and the things he could do to me and about how much I want to fuck him because he’s sexy. I mean I also consider safety and whether we’ll be sexually compatible, but I can’t even entirely wrap my head around how sexuality wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:51 AM
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Most people mean romantic relationships when they’re referring to getting into a relationship. A booty call is a technically a kind of relationship but people won’t say they’re in a relationship with their booty call (unless they are delusional).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:08 AM
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Whether she’s wasting her time or not is for her to decide. If someone I’m close to wants to vent, I don’t view listening to them as a waste of my time if it’s something they need to make them feel better. Sometimes people just want someone to care, not everyone wants you to solve their problems. Being a good partner/friend means having the emotional intelligence to support people close to you in the way which they need. Not in the way you’ve decided they need. Sometimes that means helping them …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:33 AM
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I have a very specific type when it comes to men (I’m only into androgynous/feminine men) and I do wish I was attracted to a broader range of men. The problem isn’t so much that guys I’m into are never into me back, but that it’s hard to find men I’m into in the first place. I thought I was a lesbian for a while in high school cause there were no guys around who caught my interest. On the bright side I’m into women as well so it’s hardly the end of the world if I can’t find men I’m attracted to.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:41 AM
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Tattoos make a guy who already has a certain look more attractive. If he doesn’t have other traits women who are into more alt guys have I’m not convinced getting tattoos would make a difference. The women I know are into guys with tattoos, but most of us lean more alt ourselves (or used to at least). I’m sure to a different demographic of girl tattoos would be a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 11:45 PM
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None of the guys you posted pictures of have long hair, they all have short generic haircuts. The women who love guys with long hair are into guys who put effort and time into their hair looking nice. A guy with the same $15 barbershop cut every other man has which he uses no products on other than 2 in one shampoo and body wash isn’t gonna be appealing to any women because of his hair. And the women who like very short hair or bald guys obviously don’t care about how much effort a guy puts into…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:04 AM
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In what way do you believe there is a contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 08:09 AM
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That’s fair, I would say she has what most people would consider very attractive facial features but attractiveness is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:18 PM
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This seemed reasonable in the beginning but I have to wonder what kind women you consider to be in your “league” if you think think Billie Eilish isn’t attractive, and the women you find attractive are all with hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:44 AM
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Requirements: long hair, more feminine or androgynous look overall, not overly muscular or overweight, not hairy, good hygiene, no facial hair, non gruff voice Preferences: skinnier physique, alternative or artsy aesthetic, eye makeup and nail polish are major pluses, nice sounding voice, good fashion sense, attractive facial features, dick not too far towards either extreme in terms of size, don’t have a preference in regards to height I’ve been attracted to short men and tall men Thats what I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:43 AM
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What? Are you asking me a question or making a statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:27 AM
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Depends on their reasons for paying for sex. I don’t judge and have no issue with people paying for sex or doing sex work (assuming it’s consensual). But honestly I’d be turned off by the idea that they could enjoy having sex with someone who’s not enjoying it. It’s a sign our sexual values don’t align. I prefer partners who consider a partner’s sexual enjoyment a necessity for their own. Of course there are people who don’t pay for sex and don’t meet that criteria but the likelihood our values …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:37 AM
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Yeah but in this context hookup material and not boyfriend material would mean a guy who’s personality they don’t like but is hot. That’s subjective of course so there could be women who consider him boyfriend material and want to date him and other women only consider him hookup material.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:36 AM
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I think that’s her point, husband material means you’re a stable option. Boyfriend material is more exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:27 AM
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Just because you liked having sex with someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want to date them. If I really enjoyed having sex with a person then my sexual attraction to them would increase and I’d absolutely want more sex, but a relationship is another thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:26 AM
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The lack of consistency in the ass details provided in these descriptions is very annoying. OP how do you expect anybody to make a fully informed decision when you leave out such crucial details??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:39 PM
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Guy 6 is the only one I’d find remotely attractive. Maybe guy 9 or guy 7 if they were skinnier as opposed to muscular. None of the others have any attractive traits to me besides the nice asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:35 PM
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Thx I hate it. Anyway, probably not very popular. I mean women like sex, and most women find it easier than most men to get affection needs met through friends anyway. We don’t necessarily need a boyfriend to have someone to cuddle and have mutual emotional support with. In fact it’s pretty depressing, but I know more men who would take this option than women, due to not having the same kind of support in their lives. If the guy was well off enough I’m sure there would be some women who would go…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:55 PM
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You do realize fingers, dildos, and strap ons exist? There are lesbian and bisexual women with female partners who vastly prefer penetration, doesn’t mean they just suddenly give up on having a satisfying sex life because there’s no dick involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 01:37 AM
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It’s the interaction factor that makes it different than just passively consuming porn. I guess you can subscribe to onlyfans without ever having any interactions with the creator, but unlike just watching or buying porn, onlyfans has a messaging feature and it’s often used.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:55 AM
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People are more likely to treat men with respect and consider them to be more capable by default. I’ve seen people in the replies to this thread arguing against this, but I think it has some truth. Anecdotal, but there are numerous Reddit threads of trans men saying that the increase in respect, what they say being taken at face value rather than being questioned, and the perception of capability were some of the most notable differences in how they were treated being perceived as male as oppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:10 AM
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It’s true that reasonable criticisms of art/lyrics tend to snowball into mob mentality when it comes to the Internet. I’m not sure what can be done to mediate that, but Ignoring prejudice entirely isn’t the answer either. I’m pretty certain Louis CK is not getting picketed because of his humor, but rather due to his numerous past sexual harassment incidents. I do believe you can criticize certain aspects of a thing, and still enjoy other aspects. I don’t get the point in viewing this in such a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:38 AM
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You do realize that there are a lot of nuanced opinions all sorts of different people have on this subject besides: “omg this artist has misogynistic lyrics, he deserves to be CANCELED right now end his career” And “these lyrics are actually 100% not sexist and there is no issue with them at all”. On of my favorite artists definitely has some problematic lyrics. I don’t believe he deserves to be canceled or censored over it. I also don’t think it should be ignored. The relevant issues should be …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:23 AM
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I have plenty of traits I’m not willing to go without in a partner but none of those things you listed besides attractive face are important to me. Most of my preferences are in regards to values, sexual compatibility, how they treat me, and physical attraction. I don’t care about money as long as they can support themselves. Height is not important. I find muscles unattractive and I prefer slimmer guys. But I do have to like their body so technically physique is important. Not really into big d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 03:45 AM
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Genuine question, were the men he was mocking saying negative things about women/other people or were they just minding their business and discussing how they have no issues with dating? Because if it’s the latter than yeah that guy is a bully. However if it’s the former... no one deserves the right to act like a dick towards people while expecting no criticism for the things they say. Being bitter about your lack of dating options is not an excuse to be sexist or hateful. Although either way, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:53 AM
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I think you’ve mistaken my perspective for something it very much isn’t. I don’t believe people better themselves or care about doing things which benefit others solely for their own benefit. And I don’t hold those views myself, I care a great deal about putting in the effort to have introspection on my own behavior and values so I can try and do right as a person to prevent causing harm to the people around me. I don’t believe every person has the same mindset (although I wish they did), but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:40 AM
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Those women could have desired casual sex and not wanted a relationship with the men they slept with, but they didn’t have enjoyable sexual experiences and hence why they think it’s not beneficial for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:24 AM
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Pair bonding in humans isn’t a thing. It’s not a concept backed up by any sort if scientific evidence at least, much less that it’s an ability which can be “ruined”. It’s pseudoscience at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:06 AM
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The main goal of TRP isn’t about giving women what women want. They care about being attractive to women in order to get what they want, not as some kind of benevolent act towards women because they think women don’t have enough decent partners and they want to better the dating world for us. A more accurate analogy is a woman who dresses up in low cut tops and flirts with men at bars to get men to buy her drinks. She’s invested in appealing to what men want, but it’s ultimately for her self ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:15 PM
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Ikr, that’s a solid schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:43 AM
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Sure. The universe is essentially amoral and doesn’t care about you or about me. That exactly why it’s our job as individuals to care about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 12:11 AM
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Did you read the article? Various women’s rights group in India tried to block the bill proposed by the government which would make the legal definition of rape gender neutral. I can see their arguments against the bill, considering how the culture in India is when it comes to violence against women. But you can’t say it doesn’t also have consequences for men who are victims in India. Also my second link is not even related to the article about the situation in India, it’s an American journal di…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 12:00 AM
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That’s true, but if you take into account the stats that show rape is not incredibly uncommon (1 in 5 women according to the NSRVC) with the stats that show 35% of rapes occurred during a date, you can logically deduce that the odds of being raped on a date are not insignificantly low.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:51 AM
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It depends which interests you’re talking about. There are certain areas of sexism which benefit women where I would agree women have been taught to prioritize women’s needs over men’s, like the interests to be payed for on dates or to be asked out/pursued or to not have to be the emotionally tough/stable partner. But then there are other areas where women are definitely taught to prioritize men’s needs over women’s needs, like in regards to sexual needs, household duties, grooming and beauty ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:40 AM
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You can say the premise is not anti-women, but the reality is that their beliefs and ideology are mainly about how to act in your own self interest as a man to get what you want from women, in ways that are not morally honest and regardless of how it effects the women in question. It’s hardly exclusively about how to avoid manipulative women or how to assert boundaries, even if those subjects are discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:15 AM
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https://m.timesofindia.com/india/activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms I stand corrected in saying they identify as radical feminists, they identify as women’s activists but I don’t think they align with radical feminism ideology specifically. Also I’ll note this is in regards to rape laws in India and that they have valid concerns in this case that the law could be twisted around so that women who are victims can now be considered rapists. They don’t ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:08 AM
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Yeah I agree. That’s why I said a woman who believe in certain kinds of feminism which are sexist towards men, not just feminism point blank.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 03:35 AM
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I wasn’t thinking of any feminist ideology specifically being inherently sexist against men. Moreso the fact that aligning yourself to an ideology which criticizes unfair gender norms, while positive on paper, can still attract people who actually end up perpetuating harmful gender roles. And more radical types of feminism seem to attract more of that type. People who are transphobic, racist, and who believe in societal gender norms which have negative effects towards men. For example, there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:18 AM
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I’m not saying feminism is sexist against men, but I’ve certainly seen some feminists who perpetuate gender roles which negatively effect men. Like insults which body shame men, shaming men for not being masculine, and defining men's worth based on their success with women. Shit that is harmful to men, and is not beneficial to feminism either because it tends to push the societal idea that it's inferior and an insult to be feminine. it's the other side of the same coin of toxic gender roles in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:46 AM
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I’m not trying to invalidate your feelings, but you could say the same about men. The chances of a woman loving you unconditionally despite you getting sick is far higher than if you were a woman dating a man. Men leave their wives when they get sick at significantly higher rates than the reverse. Men are six times more likely to leave an ill spouse than women. Women are not loved unconditionally either. I do think it’s shitty that men are held to unfair standards in being expected to provide ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:32 AM
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If you found out your girlfriend believed heavily in FDS or some sort or radical feminist ideology which was sexist towards men would you be fine with that then? Would you say that if she gets left by a man it’s because she’s looking to defend herself and it’s just a sign he was looking to take advantage of her?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:01 AM
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It seems that you’re applying this definition of “practically asexual” to women based on how you think women’s sexuality should benefit men rather than what women’s sexuality actually is. There’s no such thing as “practically asexual”. There are grey areas, but if you experience sexual attraction towards other people then you are not asexual. A woman could be an extremely sexual person who loves sex and thinks about it 24/7, but also be picky about who she’s attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:15 PM
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Semen can most certainly cause a yeast infection or BV with zero other factors. The vagina has an acidic PH naturally to protect against infection and semen is generally alkaline, if you throw of the acidity of the vagina then you can get an infection. Yeast infections don’t generally necessarily have anything to do with hygiene or diet. You can get them from using scented soap or lotion, the wrong laundry detergent, having wet underwear/swimsuit bottoms, laundry machines, being on antibiotics o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:41 AM
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I grew up with a decent amount of positive male influences in my life as a kid. My babysitter and most of my mom’s friends were men, I certainly wasn’t raised to be afraid of men. Then once I turned 12/13 and started getting sexually harassed and followed by creepy older men, I was forced to face the reality that I had to be careful and couldn’t be so trusting. It was life experience rather than indoctrination that shook up my naive childhood view and taught me to be more wary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:35 AM
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The odds of being kidnapped or murdered on a date are pretty low to the point where it’s highly unlikely either of those things would happen. But the odds of being sexually assaulted on a date are likely much higher. “One study of rape on American college campuses found that 13% of acquaintance rapes, and 35% of attempted acquaintance rapes, took place during a date, and another found that 22% of female rape victims had been raped by a current or former date, boyfriend or girlfriend” Source
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:12 AM
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How do you figure true crime promotes misandry? I don’t know anyone into true crime who is suddenly going around talking about how all men are evil serial killers. The reason male on female murder gets more attention in the true crime genre is likely due to the nature of the crime rather than the gender of the victims. True crime doesn’t usually focus on random stabbing and shootings because there often isn’t as much of a backstory besides a random criminal mugging a stranger who happens to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:18 PM
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She’s so hot in The Dreamers!! I should know because I’ve watched it a million times. Not just because Eva Green is hot but also for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:35 AM
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Cutting the toxic girl out of your life must have hurt but it was for the best, I hope you encounter better women in your future.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:23 AM
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Men remarry faster and at higher rates than women. Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/11/14/four-in-ten-couples-are-saying-i-do-again/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:04 PM
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Isn’t the female equivalent just a woman keeping her ex boyfriend’s nudes? I’m sure there are men who wouldn’t be happy about that anymore than women would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 09:51 PM
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What. Someone can’t be in a relationship with you when you’re not in a relationship with them, that’s not how the definition of that word works. A relationship goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 09:09 PM
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Depends on the woman. I don’t doubt there are women who will sleep with a guy just because he’s famous. I don’t know think it’s the status itself that makes him more attractive. They just want bragging rights of saying they slept with the guitarist from X band (and they’re horny). Men might likely do the same thing for the same reason if a woman’s status was considered the same value as a man’s. A woman sleeping with a man who is successful would gain admiration and attention from her friends. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:18 PM
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Women who believe men will lose respect for them in this instance and who let that worry effect their behavior likely don’t despise those men for having such ideas, they just accept it is as how it is and act accordingly. She’s passively going along with the social norms she thinks he believes in. A woman who hates men who judge women for having sex on a first date would probably not even play along with those games in the first place. She would instead be trying to vet for a man who didn’t care…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:31 AM
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Are you saying that women should know that guy was an avoidant fuckboy type because of how he grooms his facial hair? You can’t be serious. There’s no way you can consistently tell a guy isn’t genuine because he regularly gets a haircut.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:39 AM
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The reason why age gaps are questionable in specific circumstances is because there’s a certain subset of older men who pursue much younger women (or with the genders swapped, but that’s less common) because they know women around 18-21 are more naive and have significantly less life experience, which means those women are often worse at setting boundaries, are more easily manipulated, and will put up with more shitty behavior than a women who was older would allow. In my opinion, older people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:04 AM
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It depends on the situation (and the people). The women I know wouldn’t say “ew he’s gross and predatory” if a 20 year old friend introduced us to her 35 year old boyfriend. But if a 35 year old man started talking about how he only dates women under 25, then most of those women would talk about how creepy he is (not necessarily to his face).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:04 PM
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She said that she doesn’t think a 25 year old and and 18 year old should date, not that 18 year olds think 25 year olds are wrinkly old men. She specifically lists maturity as the reason it’s a bad idea, not sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:46 PM
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I see replies saying that men in their 30’s shouldn’t date 18 year olds and that men in their 20’s shouldn’t date 16 year olds but I still don’t see any replies saying 18 year old women think a 25 year old is a wrinkly old man. If these comments exist and you’ve seen them then it should be easy to link them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:39 PM
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It’s not wrong for teenagers to lust after anyone. Most teenagers probably fantasize about men/women in their twenties. Nothing unhealthy about those fantasies. Point me to the examples of women saying that younger women consider a 25 year old and 27 year old to be wrinkly old men. I’ve never seen any such comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:25 PM
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The comment you replied to said women aren’t dripping wet for older men and I agree with that statement in general. I have no doubt there are younger women who are are attracted to Jason Momoa. Most of the women I know wouldn’t find him repulsive, but the men they’re actively thirsting after and talking about wanting to fuck are usually the younger male celebrities like the ones I listed, not Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:18 PM
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I don’t know many women in that general age range who would say “Jason Momoa” when asked which celebrity she finds hottest. Tom Holland and Harry Styles would rank higher than Jason Momoa. I’m willing to bet he’s more popular with women in their 30’s and 40’s than women in their teens/twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:07 PM
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This is how it works for me as well. There’s a minimum threshold of physical attraction someone has to meet for me to be into them at all, then once I get to know them they can potentially become 1000% hotter to me or they can drop below the threshold altogether and become gross rather than sexy if their behavior/personality sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 11:46 PM
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Yeah ghosting is something women also do. I never said anything to imply it was something only done by men. I don’t know if anyone deserves to be shamed for it, but it’s still not great behavior and I believe people should be encouraged to be empathetic and to communicate properly rather than ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:10 PM
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FWBs is not harming anyone if both people mutually desire the situation and agree upon it. Someone can get hurt if they want more than FWB but if you did your duty to directly communicate your intent then it’s now on them to take that information and decide how they want to proceed. Leading someone on purposely or lying to them is likely going to hurt them due to the fact that you were dishonest about your intentions, hence why it is not considered a good thing to do morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:04 PM
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No one technically owes anybody anything. But ghosting someone you’ve went out or slept with is generally regarded as a shitty thing to do when you can Instead communicate that you don’t want to see them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:53 PM
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Yes, that’s what I said. The fact that someone lies and manipulates the people they date is fucked up but still doesn’t justify mass harassment and doxxing. I was just pointing out how your comment is purposely misleading to imply he’s getting shit due to the fact that he’s only interested in sex and not commitment, when that’s not the reason he’s getting negative attention. Of course the women who are harassing and doxxing him’s behavior should not be excused.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:49 PM
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I just looked this up and he’s getting all that negative attention because he’s (supposedly) a serial liar and ghoster. You left that major detail out. Still doesn’t justify the harassment and doxxing he’s received, but he’s not getting backlash because he wants sex without commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:03 PM
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Absolutely agree that no one is entitled to commitment. All people are allowed to end a relationship for whatever reason they want at any time. However it’s a shitty thing to do to lie to someone and say you intend to date them when you know that’s not your intention. If you’re undecided on whether you want a relationship with them or not or think it’s likely you might change your mind in the near future then don’t make any promises in regards to the future or lead them on. The morals here are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:40 PM
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Uh that’s not how it works. Thigh gaps have a lot to do with the structure of your pelvis, not just your weight. You can be underweight and not have a thigh gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:03 AM
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Do you really think women were better off when a woman was forced to depend on a man financially and stay in relationships they didn’t want to be in? When it was legal to rape your spouse and abuse wasn’t likely to be taken seriously? Dating definitely has its problems these days and there are still inequalities (for women and men), but I’d take the freedom women have now in choosing a partner any day over how it was in the 50’s. Most women can still get a relationship if she wants one, not with…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:38 AM
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There isn’t necessarily a lack of men who would be willing to give up working in order to be financially supported. The issue is that there aren’t many men willing to actually do the duties associated with being a househusband. Studies show that women pick up more housework when they are financially supported by a partner. In comparison, men actually do less housework in households where the woman is the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:46 AM
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I guess it depends on where you live but I don’t know anyone in real life who actually cares about women having had casual sex. Casual sex can be riskier for women and you can get burned but that’s true for relationships as well. In either situation you have to asses the risks and be careful who you let into your life so you don’t get hurt. If you make a claim it’s on you to provide evidence. I know women who have had causal sex and have great characters. One of the most promiscuous is also one …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:45 AM
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The majority of women would not want a relationship with someone who was only dating them for sex in the first place though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:34 AM
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To be fair, it is potentially a benefit for women who are marrying someone who makes more money than they do. However if she makes less money because she sacrificed her career prospects to raise their child then that may be a net negative for her future in comparison to her partner. What I really don’t understand on this sub is the men who talk about how much they fear “divorce rape” while also saying they don’t give a fuck about a woman’s career or income. If you plan on marriage and want to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 01:00 AM
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That’s not an excuse for someone to just quit doing their share of the cleaning altogether. The man isn’t “helping” his girlfriend/wife out. Assuming both people share a living arrangement and have jobs, cleaning/cooking/childcare by default are as much his duties are they are hers. But if one person expects the cleaning to be done a specific way or cares more about how often it’s done, they’re probably gonna have to compromise with their partner and quit criticizing how they do things, or take …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:02 PM
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I imagine there are situations where one person has higher standards of cleanliness than the other and is overly critical of how their partner does things. In that case both people should communicate and work on a compromise. However there are also some people who purposely pretend to be bad at a task in order to get out of doing their share at all. It’s a form of manipulation called weaponized incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:42 PM
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I’ve never heard anyone say that in my life, but I have seen women complaining about men treating them like a second mom quite a lot. The “my wife is a nag/won’t let me have my freedom” seems to be the more common equivalent complaint from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 07:29 PM
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That seems reasonable as long as it applies to both of you (if she wanted it to). Most women in open relationships seem to be seeking a “boyfriend”/“girlfriend” rather than one night stands anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:18 PM
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because it equals lack of self control and responsibility There is a link between risky sexual behavior and impulsivity, but it’s true for men too, not just women. Casual sex in general isn’t necessarily linked to a person who lacks impulse control and can’t control their emotions. Some people just enjoy sex. sleeping around destroys a womens character and makes her chemically unable to form a commitment bond with a particular man. This statement is pseudoscience and can’t be backed up with any …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:14 PM
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Casual sex not only ruins women's capability to settle down with most men This is silly and not backed up by any sort of scientific evidence. it also makes them disgusting in the eyes of men who want to commit and establish families. I think you’re overestimating the amount of people who actually care about this. And most women I know would also feel disgust at a guy who held this opinion, so in that case neither people view each other as a desirable option for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:05 PM
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I think a big part of it is that women seem to gain a lot of confidence when older to be open about sexual desires/needs and are more bold about seeking what they want in the bedroom whereas a lot of younger women seem to not yet be comfortable asserting themselves sexually, have inhibitions about being open about sexual desires, or they encounter men who don’t take it well and/or don’t know what they’re doing. It seems a number of younger women put up with bad sex because they think it’s normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:08 PM
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Yep. It could mean anything ranging from the guy had the potential to be a decent partner but he turned out to be a dick, to the guy had the potential for money or fame that she wanted a piece of. It’s a pretty vague statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:51 AM
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The likelihood of domestic homicide in abusive relationships is actually highest during the period right after the victim ends the relationship. Of course you should leave if someone is abusing you, but that wouldn’t necessarily reduce your risk of being murdered. You can’t just “block” them, real life isn’t the Internet lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:27 AM
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22.8% is still a significant number, that’s nearly 1 in 5 women, which is much higher than the percentage who have injuries from consensual sex. Also that statistic is only about vaginal injury. You can still experience pain or major discomfort without an obvious visible injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:17 PM
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I’ve always been sexually attracted to very feminine men and I’m not on the kind of birth control which effects overall hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:48 PM
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I don’t believe men (or women) ever have the moral obligation to stay in a relationship they don’t want to be in. However yeah you’re an awful person if you want kids but you aren’t planning on staying with your partner after she births your children and you never tell her this before getting her pregnant. Also legally, and many would argue morally, he has an obligation to provide for the kids regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:25 AM
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Like the conservative male lawmakers who vehemently preach about their pro life values in their political campaigns but pay for their mistresses to get an abortion? Or the ones who talk about how nothing is more important to them than family values all the while cheating on their wives? Or men who talk about how male rape victims aren’t taken seriously but make comments when they hear about a guy who was raped about how the guy was lucky because the woman was hot? (Saw that last one while taking…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:51 AM
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I have compassion for anyone who is a rape survivor and also for anyone who is sexless. But still, those are really not the same thing. Also if you’re penetrated roughly without sufficient lubrication/arousal then you can absolutely be physically harmed by rape. Any kind of penetration without arousal can be very painful or uncomfortable due to the vagina not having tented to provide sufficient room for whatever is doing the penetrating. Vaginal tearing and bleeding often occurs for female victi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:42 AM
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How are those the same thing??? Rape doesn’t even solely effect women, men are victims of rape too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 03:14 AM
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The implication is that she’s warning others what to look out for based on her experience, you don’t gain experience without going through some shit first. Unfortunately many people learn how to spot manipulative/abuse behavior due to being exposed to it first hand and then observing the signs retrospectively. Just because you didn’t look out for certain behavior in your past due to prior naïveté doesn’t mean you aren’t taking measures to avoid encountering it again in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:32 AM
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I’ve noticed that too, the replies referring to the women on this sub as FDS supporters or hardcore feminists. Way more women here (including myself) seem to think negatively of FDS or redpill overall than ones who support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 08:37 PM
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Bill Kaulitz has been one of my biggest celebrity crushes for years, he’s so sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:09 PM
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There’s a decent market for that sort of thing (provided the guy is attractive), straight men who perform on onlyfans for men can definitely make money. The fact that they’re sucking a dildo yet they’re straight is part of the appeal to some gay/bi men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:41 PM
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I doubt many women would be interested in someone who views her body as the greatest thing she has to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:30 PM
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They don't a personal connection like cam girls. If I'm not mistaken. What? I think you made a typo or left out a word cause I can’t tell what you mean with that sentence. I can see an argument for parasocial relationships and online streamers, in which case money is not necessarily being exchanged in order to have a conversation with them in the first place so the lines can be blurry if you talk with a streamer like you’re friends. But with onlyfans you are required to pay to even talk with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:27 AM
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How are they being lied to and finessed? Unless the onlyfans creator is scamming (which would ruin their business and they would legally be required to offer refunds), they openly sell porn and people buy said porn. You can’t get much more straightforward than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:14 AM
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I’m pretty open minded and I’ll try most things at least twice before I write it off as something I don’t like and not much grosses me out. That being said, I’m not down for scat, extreme pain (for me or the other person), someone wanting to role play that they’re a child during sex, raceplay, cutting or needles, medical role play, fisting or double vaginal penetration (on me, sounds painful), bestiality. I love being dominant but not as into being the sub, anything in regards to me being domina…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 10:16 AM
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Sexual compatibility is super important. I love variety and trying new things in the bedroom so someone who’s boring and shoots down all my fun kinky ideas and isn’t open minded try lots of different things would be a no go, doesn’t enjoy oral (both receiving and giving), not prioritizing my pleasure and sexual needs at least equally as I do theirs, doesn’t listen or communicate well, lack of fluidity eg. they either expect me to lead all the time or they never let me lead (need me another switc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:58 PM
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The entitlement is why (at least partially) those men have so many negative opinions towards women, not the reason they have problems dating. There are plenty of people who get mistreated and may briefly have some negative feeling towards men/women and dating. But you don’t see people with healthy, empathetic attitudes spending so much free time holding on to anger and bitterness, hating, thinking up revenge fantasies, or blaming an entire group for their problems like how you see with TRP and F…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:51 AM
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I find it interesting to talk about those subjects as well, why would discussions about dating not be interesting? Dating, sex, relationships, and gender dynamics in society effect most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:23 AM
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I agree, more strip teases and sexy outfits. It never made sense to me how men are supposed to be the hornier ones with lower standards yet women are the ones who are expected to dress up and try harder to look sexy. It’s 2022, men have gotta up their game to appeal to the female gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:38 PM
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I don’t care if they pay for porn or have a favorite porn star, but I would consider interacting with girls on OnlyFans in comments/dms to be crossing a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:04 PM
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I like skinny, hairless, androgynous body types on guys. I’m into to a slightly broader range for women, I don’t have an ideal but prefer women in the slim to somewhat thiccer range.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:52 PM
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Seems like the type of guy who would be very popular amongst gay men but not undesirable amongst straight/bi women either. Far too muscley and too hairy for me though. I find both muscles and facial/body hair to be huge turn offs. I like the skinny twink look. But he is objectively attractive so I’m sure he wouldn’t struggle with dating. Though more women would probably find him attractive if he was somewhat less buff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:48 PM
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To be fair if I had sex with young Leonardo DiCaprio I’d be thinking about it til my deathbed days too, have you seen that man? Damnnn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:33 PM
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I got birth control (iud) from planned parenthood that would have cost me about $900 without insurance when I was a teenager. It wasn’t for sex but because I had awful periods that would leave me stuck in bed puking from severe pain for two days out of the month. A large percentage of women are on birth control for non/contraceptive reasons, it’s essential healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:37 AM
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Bro are you ok
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:30 AM
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How much “protecting” do you think men are expected to do In the 21st century? If a man of woman wants protecting they can get a weapon, door locks, and/or pepper spray. You don’t need a man for protection in 2022 in a first world country. Unless the man literally follows his partner every time she or the child leave the house to be their personal body guard, which is unrealistic if he has a job and places to be at, he’s not the only one protecting. The mom also has to protect her child from dan…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:13 AM
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Don’t forget about being bisexual. That’s also very time consuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:10 AM
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I’m sorry you experienced people treating you like that, no one deserves to be abused or assaulted for the way they look. I sincerely hope you meet kinder people in your life and your experiences are better in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:08 AM
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I don’t think flapperfemmefatale is saying that her husband doesn’t meet her casual sex standards, she’s saying that the casual sex men don’t meet her non-sexual standards enough for a relationship. I feel the same way, my physical attraction standards for casual sex and a relationship would be the same but my personality/values standards for a relationship are higher. If you date someone they’ve got to be attractive enough to you AND compatible with your personal values but the latter doesn’t m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:01 PM
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If I want to watch porn with women in it I usually either watch lesbian or solo female. If I want to see men I watch solo male, MMF bisexual threesome or gay porn (for gay porn, usually more soft core stuff like making out and oral). I don’t really watch straight porn because I never find the men attractive, there are never any cute twinks in straight porn. There is SO much porn out there and I just want to see a pretty androgynous boy rail a girl :( my life is hard Also LOVE some good amateur o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:12 PM
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This is inaccurate. Lesbian and bisexual male are more popular with women than any of the categories you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:51 PM
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Actually the overwhelmingly most popular category amongst women internationally is lesbian porn. Women do search for gangbang more than men do. But pussy licking, solo male, fingering, popular with women, lesbian, scissoring, muscular men, romantic, bisexual male, double penetration, and threesome are all more popular categories amongst women than gangbang. Women are 260% more likely to view “Pussy Licking” videos and 85% more likely to view gangbang videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:47 PM
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The reasons for racially segregated neighborhoods go deeper than that. Redlining in the 20th century forced racial minorities into less desirable areas and prevented them from purchasing property in areas where white people owned property. Things have changed legally since then but of course the past is still a factor for the current racial demographic of neighborhoods in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:15 PM
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You do realize that men can also be victims of sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:56 AM
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Who says eating ass can’t be romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:51 AM
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Not a PPD thread giving me flashbacks to my teenage emo phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:54 AM
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No friends, only prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:25 AM
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Considering that about 70% of women can’t even get off from penetration alone, it’s definitely not about the size of your dick. Any guy who has sex with women and thinks being good at sex is all about dick size is going to be a really awful partner for the majority of women. There’s a good reason you see so many women talk about how they slept with guy who had a big dick and he was the worst sex of their life because he thought it was the only important factor and didn’t know how to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:13 AM
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I’ve absolutely looked at men who downright had me distracted thinking horny thoughts about them. I do be objectifying men. Not the majority, as I have a pretty specific type when it comes to men, but it definitely happens. If I’m attracted to a guy I can be turned on just by looking at him or his body, although personality does play a role in terms of attraction as well. But I’m not heterosexual nor do I have the same sexual preferences as most women I know (I definitely lean more sexually domi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:38 AM
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It depends, there is certainly educational porn out there that would make you a better sex partner, like tutorials on how to suck dick, eat pussy, ride...etc in ways that would actually feel good to the person you’re having sex with. More people watching those videos would be a major plus for their sex partners. But a guy clicking on a random porn video and re-enacting that irl would not go so well for any future female partners, as sex that just consists of the woman sucking dick and then getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:27 AM
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Many women probably wouldn’t sleep with a stranger even if she wanted to due to safety concerns. But I don’t think looking at a guy and thinking “damn he’s hot I’d hit that” is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:55 AM
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Are you implying that Shrek isn’t already attractive??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:45 AM
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People who lie about rape should be held accountable for it, but I don’t believe it’s as bad as being a rapist because it’s obviously a different crime and thus has different effects. There’s not much of a point in comparing suffering in this manner in the first place due to the subjectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:24 AM
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I don’t believe all men are all great human beings or anything like that, there are plenty of shitty men who lack empathy just as there are plenty of shitty women who lack empathy. Which is why you have to be very careful who you let in your life, be observant of an individuals behavior, and not assume people have good intentions. But realizing that I don’t think negatively of men as a whole and prefer to view them as individuals rather than making generalizations or assumptions way more than a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:20 AM
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I agree, it’s natural to find others attractive even when you’re in a relationship, I don’t see how that’s under anyone’s control. You can fantasize/look all you want as long as you aren’t breaking the boundaries established in the relationship and neglecting your partner or being dishonest. Although unlike the opinion of some men in this thread I believe this applies equally to both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:38 AM
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They do that because he’s hot. I’ve seen men AND women go after that extremely attractive person who is widely known for being a shitty human being just because they’re attracted to them and aren’t thinking logically. A mixture of that and being optimistic that they’re “special” and will be the exception to the rule. There are also some people who would rather not be bored than be with someone who treats them right, but the simple answer of bad decisions due to being horny for a sexy guy/girl is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:21 AM
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Source? Most of the bi women I’ve known end up with men more often because there are more available for relationships, and most bi men I’ve known prefer women romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 08:19 AM
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Absolutely agree. Neither of those ideologies seem to attract healthy minded, empathetic individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:58 AM
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Even hot people, or people who put effort into obtaining good looks can and will still look down on someone as being shallow. I’ve heard hot men and hot women complain about how they can’t stand shallow women/men and how much society values looks despite the fact that they are shallow themselves and want an attractive partner. It’s hypocritical to be put off by someone valuing looks even though you also value looks, but not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:50 AM
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On one hand, yes, women are extremely shallow and hypocritical when it comes to looks with regard to OLD, Tinder, FWBs, ONS, etc, they overwhelmingly only target men out of their league and, fascinatingly, have absolutely no awareness of this. Do you have any source for this claim? Even that okcupid study often quoted on this subreddit which shows women rate most men as below average, also shows that men on average are more likely to message/reply to women above their attractiveness level and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:53 AM
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There’s a fine line. This is subjective, but in my opinion, people who use old photos, purposely try and hide their weight or their face with cropping/filters/sunglasses/masks/photoshop are crossing the line of marketing into being dishonest. However, many women try and get good lighting when taking photos, take a ton of pictures and then choose the ones which are most flattering, which I think would benefit men on dating apps to do the same thing. So many men on dating apps don’t just take phot…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:03 PM
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I don’t think it would make a big difference to me personally as the cheating would be my main focus regardless. But I can see your point, there are men and women who date “down” in looks because they think that person will be a safer option and will be more likely to be faithful or will put more effort in proportion to their effort into the relationship, will put up with being treated worse than a better looking partner...etc so I could see why a person who uses that kind of logic would feel mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:11 AM
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In sure there are plenty of women who are asshole partners and are the reason for their relationship ending, but one of the biggest causes for divorce is infidelity and there are more male cheaters than female ones. Statistically women do more domestic duties and childcare and are more stressed and less sexually satisfied than men in straight relationships, so those are likely contributing factors in divorce as well. Women are certainly capable of being shitty partners but so are men, it’s ridic…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:11 PM
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I haven’t seen women who have had a lot of partners struggle with finding a relationship any more than the women I know who have few partners, there are exceptions but I’ve noticed promiscuous women generally end up with a man who is also promiscuous and non-promiscuous women end up with non-promiscuous men. Most of the surveys on “desired amount of sex partners in a romantic partner” show men and women have relatively similar numbers for what they consider to be acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:57 PM
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The same thing I think about slutty men, I don’t care about anyone’s life choices or the amount of sex they’re having as long as they aren’t hurting others. I like hearing the tea from my promiscuous friends and living vicariously through them, as do most of the other women I know who have nonexistent/less interesting sex lives. The few promiscuous women and men I know generally have way more interesting stories than the non-promiscuous ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:31 PM
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If this is how she views sex when it comes to her body and her life choices then I respect that, but I don’t understand the judgement towards other people. You can give someone advice (not saying “stop sleeping around” is necessarily good advice in this scenario), and when they don’t take it that can be frustrating when you care about your friends. But at the end of the day it’s their own life and personal decisions and as long as they aren’t hurting anyone else it’s not your shit to figure out …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 10:07 PM
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I’m exclusively attracted to this type. You might have more luck in dating if you leaned in to a more artsy/alt aesthetic and went for women who were more alternative themselves. I believe part of the appeal of this type of guy for a lot of women is the look itself, but also the confidence it takes to stand out and look pretty as a guy, the fact that they aren’t afraid to paint their nails or wear eye makeup and that they don’t give a fuck if people think they’re weird for not following social n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:06 AM
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Which women are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:03 AM
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Unless you consider any sex to be “hoeing”, a woman in a monogamous long term relationship with a man isn’t at any less risk of getting pregnant than a women who is having casual sex (unless the women in the relationship is dating a guy who has a vasectomy or is infertile).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:03 AM
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There’s a major confirmation bias there though, because you probably don’t even notice that the FTMs who pass well enough to be considered “one of the guys” are not cisgender men in the first place because they aren’t as likely to be outed/out themselves as trans publicly and can be stealth. The posts above even said that they only noticed these differences in how people treated them until after properly passing as male and not when people still perceived them as transgender. Anyway, I linked po…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:21 PM
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Ok but I do love me a socially awkward twink, sign me the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:34 AM
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If you read a few accounts on reddit written by ftms in how people treated them before and after transitioning, common occurrences mentioned seem to be that they get treated with far more respect, people assume a higher degree of competency and capability from them but also might have higher expectations for them to know what they’re talking about, getting treated better by medical professionals (when assumed to be cisgender), people take no for an answer and respect their boundaries easier, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:19 AM
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I think most realize the clit exists but based mainly on the experiences I’ve heard of women around me and hearing men talk about sex in general, most (or at least a lot) don’t realize how important clit stimulation is for a ton of women. A large amount of men seem to assume penetration is equally stimulating for both parties and that clit stimulation is just a bit of extra pleasure and hence not required. But it’s more often the other way around, direct clit stimulation is the equivalent sensat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:29 AM
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I’m more afraid of making them uncomfortable than being rejected. I’ll see a cute guy (or girl) when I’m out and decide against talking to them cause “they’re probably busy and don’t want to be bothered”. If it’s a more social environment I’ll start the conversation first, but I’ll usually flirt with them more subtlety to see if they flirt back rather than outright making a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:30 AM
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There are multiple steps required in the first place for that to happen though, their partner has to first consent to be involved in a sex act which they can get off from for the duration of time necessary. And then after that requirement is met, they can take matters into their own hands from there. For example If a man needed penetrative sex to orgasm and a woman refused to do that and only wanted to grind on him in a way that feels good but he couldn’t get sufficient stimulation, or they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:59 PM
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I don’t see anything wrong with that scenario as long as everyone’s happy and it’s not hurting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:51 AM
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I don’t agree, men definitely have physically attractive attributes. And this is coming from someone who loves boobs and butts and feminine beauty. I’m not attracted to all types but I do find men’s bodies attractive and can get why someone would be into a man with some chub or a more chiseled body even though I find guys on the skinny side more appealing. There is more to men’s body types than apple and cheese sticks. I think women put more effort into looks which impacts attractiveness and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 11:01 PM
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There are certainly some women who just want sex, and women in general don’t consider sex and love to be the same thing. Source stating otherwise? While plenty of women aren’t into casual sex at all there are definitely women out there who sleep with men just cause they’re horny and dont seek to get anything non sexual out of it. I don’t know a single women who is talking about how she hopes she hooks up with a guy and he spends money on her (not to say those women don’t exist), the women I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:30 PM
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This is the all subjective, but personally I see a lot more pretty girls when I walk around whereas most men I see aren’t unattractive to me but don’t really stand out either. I don’t think women are better looking than men by default, but most women I see have done more things to enhance/alter their appearance than the men. The men I tend to notice are usually the ones who have put more effort in. I believe that if makeup and skincare were removed from the equation, you put everyone in the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:22 AM
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Aesthetic matters a LOT for attraction to me so I absolutely notice a stylish man. My standards for attraction have little to do with inherent facial features in men and mostly to do with how they dress and their hair. For me it’s more androgynous, alternative and unique styles and longer hair lengths that I find attractive. I don’t think most women care as much about a man’s style as I do, but sometimes I think aesthetics go further in regards to effecting a man’s attractiveness to women than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:20 AM
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The single ones...? It’s not as if men in relationships are only cheating with women in relationships. They could either cheat with other women who are also taken, women who are single and don’t know they’re sleeping with a man who isn’t, women who are single and who do know the guy isn’t single, or women in open relationships. Also escorts and other kinds of sex workers, who probably don’t ask questions about their clients current relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:44 AM
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There’s some truth in a persons fantasies but it’s not like they want that exact situation to pan out irl. People who get off to those kinds of romance novels are likely genuinely turned on by certain aspects such as an attractive guy who appears powerful and someone desirable desiring them. But they wouldn’t necessarily want to ever date a guy who genuinely treats her how a guy in the novel treats the protagonist (with some exceptions I’m sure). Like how step sibling/parent porn is a popular po…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:07 AM
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I’m in my twenties and having casual conversations with friends about kinky stuff and talking about being a sub is common, possibly the least socially taboo in fact. If anything someone saying they’re vanilla gets more judgement than someone saying they enjoy submitting in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:15 AM
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I don’t think that’s a common plot in romance novels catering to women at all, which to be fair I have never read much of, but I did read a lot of really bad YA romance as a teenager who enjoyed reading and read all genres indiscriminately and the desirable guy wasn’t out plowing other girls. In fact he wasn’t even talking to other girls. He was too busy leaning by the schoolyard gates staring broodingly of into the tree line and not talking to anyone. He definitely had plenty of other girls who…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:56 AM
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It’s pretty simple. Most people enjoy good sex and do not enjoy bad sex. It seems that straight women unfortunately tend to have bad sex more often than straight men do, but that doesn’t mean women don’t want/enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:15 AM
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I mean ideally you don’t care about pleasing your partner cause they insist upon it, you care about pleasing your partner because you care about pleasing someone who’s pleasing you. Having sex with a person who you have to ask to reciprocate pleasure and their default is just taking and not giving doesn’t sound very sexy nor appealing. Who wants that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:11 AM
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Nah, wallets fit all your debit cards way easier. And they don’t ban you from the corner mart when you pull your cash out to pay for your groceries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:04 AM
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This is a problem, but to be fair, not paying half of the bill isn’t going to fix this issue. I expect to pay my half on dates and I expect a partner who treats me equally in the bedroom or else I will not sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 08:56 AM
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Masculinity is aggression and dominance. Women who are aggressive, domineering, and cannot submit to a man's leadership are masculine. In the end, they are trying to be a caricature of what they think a strong person is, without understanding how to be strong in character and feminine at the same time. This is a majority of western women. If I said “men who express aggressiveness and dominance and cannot submit to a woman’s leadership are trying to be a caricature of what he thinks a strong pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:26 AM
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Is a man arrogant and entitled if he chooses not to submit to the women he chose for a partner? If not then why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:08 AM
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Idk, you both seem to think it has to be one or the other, but anytime there’s a lack of trust the best thing to do is break the transaction into discreet chunks and build trust that way. You can make out, but he has to pay for half the date, or you could give a handjob with the condition that it means y’all are exclusive now, etc. This just sounds manipulative and transactional. I would never date someone who holds sexual acts as a bargaining chip for commitment. It gives the impression they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 05:06 AM
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I don’t care at all about my partner’s social status or what other people think of it. As long as I am attracted to them, find them interesting, they aren’t a dick and we are sexually compatible it’s perfectly fine if they work retail. In fact someone who is obsessed with earning money and having a successful career over most other aspects if their life comes of as a bit materialistic to me and I find it to be a turn off. As someone who grew up poor (and is still poor lmao), I can understand the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:52 AM
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People put off buying utensils? What happened to all their utensils? How have they been eating spaghetti in the meantime? With their hands???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:09 AM
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You can’t expect consistency and honesty from women any more than you can expect consistency and honesty from anyone because women are individuals and individuals vary in their moral compass and decency. Also people change for better or for worse all the time, as much as it’s human nature to desire consistency and safety, unfortunately you can’t expect any form of consistency when it comes to how people treat you or how they act. You can only accept that change is the natural state.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:05 AM
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I just looked it up and I misremembered what I read in regards to the last part, they do offer numbing agents during the procedure to destroy the cancerous cells in the cervix. It’s the cervical biopsy where they scrape cells of the cervix which are not performed with numbing medication, still definitely painful but not as bad as the procedure I had it mixed it up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 04:39 AM
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But the truth is men will never put in as much effort as women do in their appearance. Dolling oneself up to be "pretty" is a feminine trait and always has been. This is not at all true if you look at history going back further than the past few decades. High heels and wigs were originally made for and worn by men not women, and makeup has been worn by men throughout various different cultures including French high society and ancient Egypt. The makeup, extravagant frilly clothes, and wigs were …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:15 AM
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I have an IUD and it wasn’t the most painful thing I’ve experienced but like the above poster described it’s extremely uncomfortable. Although it varies a lot and I’ve heard other accounts of women passing out from the pain or saying it was by far the worst pain of their life. The fucked up thing is that the option for doctors offices to make the procedure less painful is already readily available, simple, and very easily doable. They can either numb the area locally or put you under for an IUD …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 12:07 AM
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If you’re only looking for a casual sex partner then the fact that they’re never date you would be a pro.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:14 PM
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I don’t really get the comparison. It all seems pretty arbitrary. You could say a man let a women climb on top of him and ride him or you could say a women let a guy penetrate her. The only sex that is taken by force and not consensually “offered up” would by definition just be rape. I don’t see how anyone is being conquered, if a person desires to be penetrated and to get pleasure from the other person then they’re getting what they want and that’s a gain on their end not a loss. It’s really th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 07:28 AM
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Most divorces aren’t necessarily initiated by women because she’s the one who wanted the divorce. There are other factors, such as the norm that women tend to be more likely to be in charge of doing the paperwork in a relationship. Also not to say there aren’t men who are fucked over by shitty partners in relationships but relationships don’t really benefit women more than men. Married women die sooner, report higher levels of stress and lower overall happiness than single women but the opposite…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:19 AM
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I don’t think flexing in this sense means literal flexing but metaphorical flexing, bragging about achievements vs being humble.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:03 AM
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If someone is refusing to have sex with their partner in order to get whatever non-sexual thing they want then that just sounds like regular manipulation and abuse to me. I still wouldn’t personally define it as sexual abuse as It doesn’t fit into the common definitions of sexual abuse used by most sexual abuse organizations nor the dictionary definition of sexual abuse, which specifically defines that kind of abuse as “the infliction of sexual contact upon a person by forcible compulsion”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:41 AM
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Technically there are more men who score higher on the manipulation scale than women who do I don’t think that means men are inherently manipulative either but that manipulative people exist regardless of gender. Also I don’t know what you consider to be bonding but (some) men who have plenty of regular sex still cheat on their partners or mistreat them. Sexual bonds can be amazing but realistically speaking a bond solely based on sex isn’t the most reliable in the long term. People get old, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:33 AM
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Wtf, that’s not what sexual abuse is. Sexual abuse is unwanted sexual activity perpetrated by force, threats or taking advantage of victims unable to give consent. A partner not having sex with you could potentially be done with manipulative intent or it could just be they don’t want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:18 PM
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Showing appreciation towards your partner is a positive thing, but I imagine the frustration occurs when one partner is always expressing gratitude for their SO doing certain things, whereas every time they do those same things they never receive gratitude for it or any even acknowledgment since their partner just expects it of them. It may effectively get what needs to be done accomplished but I’d imagine most people would feel taken for granted in that scenario, which would undoubtedly effect …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:38 PM
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From what I’ve noticed, regardless of gender the people who drop their friends when they get into a new relationship usually tend to be the codependent types, the ones who are obsessive about love and are hopeless romantics. People who are more balanced and independent don’t tend to neglect their platonic relationships as much even if they might focus more on a new boyfriend/girlfriend in the beginning of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:15 PM
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Are you saying that it’s unrealistic for a woman to find a man who has options yet won’t cheat? Sure cheating is always a possibility but If it’s in someone’s personal beliefs that all men would cheat if they had the option and that men will only stay faithful if they don’t have the option to cheat then they are probably they kind of person who thinks very negatively men and chooses to be single. If someone is that paranoid about being cheated on then I doubt they’d be into commitment. The idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:19 PM
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Not everyone wants a harem or to cheat, plenty of people want monogamous relationships even when they have options. I would imagine if a person who has options doesn’t want a relationship and they just want sex then they would just not get in to a committed relationship and only have sexual ones as there’s nothing forcing them to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:14 PM
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This is quite possibly the (very rare) most rational and realest comment I’ve seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:27 AM
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The majority of men don’t work in jobs requiring physical labor either. According to this article, Japan is struggling with a labor shortage yet women attempting to join certain male dominated fields such as construction work currently face discrimination and refusal to cooperate from men working in those fields: “There are still plenty of men who don’t want to take orders from women,” Ms. Komorita said. Recently, she said, one of her female employees was mocked by workers she supervised as bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:04 PM
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Source on eighty percent of women initiating divorce because they’re bored or because they want to be an Instagram/reality tv personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 09:13 AM
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There are accounts from various porn stars saying they were forced to do scenes and acts not in the contract. Here’s an article detailing some of those accounts The increase of women joining OnlyFans doesn’t equate to an increase of women joining the regular porn industry, I don’t think most camgirls or those who sell nudes go on to be actual porn stars generally, although I don’t know the stats on that for sure. I’m not trying to argue that the popularity of OnlyFans is a positive thing, just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:28 AM
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Being against the porn industry but pro independent sex work (like OnlyFans) isn’t hypocritical at all. In fact it’s the opposite. Supporting independent sex workers having more personal safety and autonomy to avoid being exploited by the porn industry, plus control over their own content is actually a major point for people who are concerned about the safety of sex workers. Many people who criticize the porn industry view the growth of OnlyFans as a big plus for sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:55 AM
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I don’t know how often it happens, but there are definitely stories out there of porn stars in U.S. who were forced to do scenes or acts they didn’t agree to do in the contract or being sexually assaulted on set. Here’s an article where Lana Rhoades and Minnie Scarlett talk out about experiencing such things in the industry. It seems being freshly 18 and getting blackmailed or coerced into doing things you aren’t comfortable with and aren’t in the contract isn’t uncommon for women (and maybe men…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 12:17 AM
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Just curious, do you think a guy should have to participate in receiving anal and being choked if he landed his dream girl? I mean sounds fun to me but I don’t know how many men would be down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:48 PM
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For me, short and skinny would be ideal, then tall and skinny. I don’t care that much about height but muscles really turn me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 07:17 PM
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It wouldn’t be a matter of loyalty to my tribe against loyalty to my partner, but of who I agree with and think is in the right after analyzing the situation. If my partner does something majorly fucked up then I’m not gonna just stand there and agree with them on it. I would either leave if it was serious enough and something that made me realize we aren’t compatible or I would discuss the matter with them. However if said partner is being shunned for a reason I don’t agree with and think is un…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 02:48 PM
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Aside from the cycle of abuse and the psychology that goes behind why someone would take back an abuser, there are people who will choose someone who comes with drama, manipulation, or emotional unavailability over someone who’s a more stable option for a partner because (usually subconsciously) they don’t want to be bored or are trying to district themselves from something else in their life. It seems very illogical but hey that’s human nature for you. I have a friend who one time said that dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:34 PM
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The women who are ultra concerned about safety are probably the ones who are meeting guys through school, hobbies, having first dates in a cafe during day time hours...etc whereas the group of women who are going out clubbing to find a hook up likely are not the same women who care quite as much about safety. Also the obvious answer being that alcohol lowers people’s regular inhibitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:57 PM
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It’s fucked up but there have been studies showing that men and women who score higher on dark triad traits are rated as more attractive and are more successful in dating than people who don’t possess those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:48 PM
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It is factual that women on average score lower on the narcissism scale. There are plenty of women who are narcissists and manipulators as well and I absolutely think that men who have been victims deserve more awareness and help, but that aside most research does show that men score higher on dark triad personality traits (narcissism, psychopathy, manipulation, egocentricity, selfishness...etc) than women overall. Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656620300040?via%3…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:40 PM
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Yeah, it’s always rubbed me the wrong way when I hear men talk about “getting” sex from women or about women “giving it up”. Maybe it ain’t always that deep but I do agree generally that If someone is discussing sex in a way that implies they’re the only one benefiting from it and their sex partners are losing out on something by agreeing to have sex with them then they’re probably not good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 06:27 PM
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