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Ugh, I had a situation like that too! His ex was obsessed with him, and insisted on hanging out with us when I came to town. She spent the whole day putting me down, and playing up all she had in common with him. I’m more of a girly girl, and she was into the same things he was (video games, action movies, etc), and she kept reminding him of how much they had in common. It backfired on her too, though. She did finally convince him to leave me, by getting him nostalgic for the days he was with so…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/04/22 12:02 PM
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Also…why don’t women coach men? Men coach both men’s and women’s teams, while women pretty much only coach other women. This is soooo accepted in mainstream society.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/04/22 10:02 PM
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Exactly! They’re pretty much demanding we have sex, but the reality is that a lot of us legitimately don’t feel comfortable having sex early on. Do they really want to tell us, in today’s social climate, to have half-consensual sex? They live in fear of being FaLsElY aCcUsEd, but then expect us to have immediate sex with them, our comfort level be damned.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/04/22 01:39 PM
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Yes!!! My cousin, who just met his wife about two years ago, has a story about their first date. He had been a victim of credit card fraud that day, and wasn’t thinking about it when he went on the date (a proper dinner date at a nice restaurant). When the check came, he was mortified when the check came, and his card was declined. Then he realized what was going on, and she graciously paid. He felt horrible about that, though she’s a doctor, and makes a good bit more than him. He was so surpris…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/04/22 03:26 PM
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This is a really great point! If it’s so “important” to him to split the bill, why not ask ahead of time? Isn’t that just like any other dealbreaker? If you’re set on a 50/50 woman, why waste time on one who is not? Like you said, it’s because they don’t truly think the 50/50 women are desirable. They want someone who normally expects the man to pay to change her expectations for him, because he is sooooo amazing! Also, the possibility of free sex. Add to that the fact that men don’t seem to min…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/04/22 03:20 PM
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Also, keep in mind that men absolutely don’t tolerate the same behavior from us! I had this boyfriend who got mad that I wasn’t constantly texting him while I was student teaching. I was trying hard to make a good impression at work, and obviously couldn’t be on my phone all day while I was supervising children! He found this unreasonable, because he had never had a job that he couldn’t just text all day. Men don’t sit around and make excuses for women like so many of us unfortunately do. They’r…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/22 10:38 AM
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Came here to say this! It also sets an example to be happy and content while single, because you’re thriving on your own, and don’t want to be dragged down by anyone. I truly didn’t have any role models like this growing up, and I wish I had! Maybe then I wouldn’t have become a pickme who was so focused on having a man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/04/22 08:26 PM
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Absolutely! Besides not being all that nice, I also question how fun they are, if they just sit around at home doing nothing. It seems like a fun person would want a job, so they could experience new things, and like they would want to at least do housework, so they could actually do fun things after their partner gets home from work. They don’t sound very fun to me if they sit around and watch TV all day, while their partner is at work, and then remain a useless lump while the partner does all …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 06:43 PM
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Yes!!! I have always maintained that nobody has SUCH an amazing personality that they are irreplaceable, even though literally everything about being with them sucks. It is not worth it! Being generally nice and fun is NOT that rare, and it’s not super hard to find someone with these qualities who has it together. Also, even if you can’t find someone else soon, you can be around friends who are nice and fun. These qualities don’t make these deadbeat men rare gems. Also, they might be a lot more …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 01:15 PM
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Wow, I had never looked at it that way before, but you are 100% right!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/04/22 12:36 AM
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I wish I had known this when I was like 22. I was horribly abused by a narcissist ex, and I always led with that on dates. I felt like the world owed me a good man, and by making them feel sympathy for me, they would be vying to step up and be that good man. They’d always be like, “poor you!” and then take that as permission to treat me the exact same way. Finally, one of them said, “you put up with too much,” in a disgusted tone. It had really never occurred to me that anyone would look down on…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/22 03:54 PM
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Same here! I wish I had known how guys thought, and when to cut them off. I spent soooo much time thinking things like, “well, he is barely texting me, trying to just have sex with me, negging me, etc. Plus he ignored me for six months, but seemed to have fun on our last date. He will see me as girlfriend material if I look especially great on our next date, though, and if I lose 5 pounds, he will want to show me off to his friends! And I can also be the perfect cool girl, never texting him, so …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/22 07:52 PM
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I used to go around proclaiming I wasn’t a feminist, but I didn’t understand what feminism was. I thought feminists were all about things like 50/50 and porn, and the only way you could be against these things was to be an anti-feminist and traditional woman. It was a game changer to realize that you can be a feminist because you have these views! Radical feminism fits me way better than liberal feminism.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy31/03/22 08:10 AM
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Exactly! And it is so backwards how they think it’s totally fine to care about looks, but we can’t care about money at all. I mean, money is pretty important, especially if you plan on spending significant time pregnant, giving birth, and caring for an infant. Meanwhile, a hot girl won’t benefit him in any practical way. It is absolutely backwards that it’s normalized for them to not even talk to a woman unless she’s hot enough, but we’re gold diggers if we’re even curious what they make.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/22 10:17 PM
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This had me laughing sooooo hard! Poor baby! I hate when men get all upset about being “objectified,” or judged for their job / money. Imagine being a woman and being judged for your looks upfront! Guys would never swipe right on a profile with no picture, yet expect to keep us in the dark on their finances, and if we care, we’re unreasonable gold diggers.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/03/22 08:33 PM
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I know a woman who used to do this. Her ex (thank god no kids together!) was unemployed and pretty useless, and she was always trying to get him back on his feet. Writing resumes, sending them out, etc. He totally didn’t respect her, and left for a woman who didn’t baby him like that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/03/22 06:29 PM
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Absolutely! I could have written this myself. It’s so empowering to be abstinent because you love yourself, not just because it’s a game you’re playing to make guys commit. I’ll wait as long as I need to for all of the reasons you listed.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/03/22 10:17 PM
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That’s very true. I usually assume the woman wasn’t really crazy, or he did something to make her act “crazy.” However, the few men I have known who date truly crazy women always are fine with it because she’s hot, but then play the victim later!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/03/22 07:22 PM
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Also, in my experience, men go into marriages within LVW with their eyes wide open. Women often aren’t as good at pretending to be upstanding citizens as crappy men are, and they usually show their crazy upfront. Men still pursue the relationship and marriage because she’s hot and the sex is good, and they assume she will change, and become a responsible wife, if only someone would give her a chance to be one. Then when that doesn’t happen, they are shocked. Also, after they finally break up, th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/03/22 01:51 PM
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Wow, your last sentence really took my breath away. That is SUCH a great point!!! Also, some feminists will criticize the housewife for relying on a man for money, and in the next breath, encourage sex work. How is doing chores for a man who is committed to you a sin in their eyes, while selling nudes to total creeps is EmPoWeRiNg?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/22 07:51 PM
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Yes! The last time I fell into that trap was when I moved in with a roommate. Guys love you having your own place for pRiVaCy, because sex is the only thing that matters, and I worried about limiting my options by lacking privacy, and looking like a gOlD dIgGeR, lest it appear I couldn’t afford my own place. But then I thought…why should I be spending way more money to live alone, and not have any company, because of what some guy might think who isn’t even in my life? Especially when the situat…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/03/22 01:40 PM
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Exactly! I used to feel like I was waiting for my life to start, and now I feel like i’m living my life, and if someone wants to be a part of it, he’d better be great, because I love what I have now, and he needs to make it better!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/03/22 01:35 PM
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This is the best advice! I felt so much more free when I realized it was stupid to plan my life around someone who isn’t even here. Who cares what a guy thinks about XYZ? I’m single now, and I only have one life to live, so I will enjoy it. If something in my lifestyle is an issue for a future partner, we can deal with it when the time comes, but it is not my job to foresee what a future guy will like, and live my life accordingly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/03/22 10:56 AM
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This reminds me sooooo much of this asshole I was with in my twenties who expected praise for not cheating. He dumped me for basically no reason and broke my heart, and said, “I wasn’t happy! Aren’t you glad I left instead of cheating?!” Wellllll…yeah. But why would your mind even go there? You shouldn’t even consider cheating. He was so tempted by other options, but deserved a damn medal for staying faithful, or so he thought. Even worse, I was on a trip when he decided to leave, so he had to w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/22 06:26 PM
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Same here! I was tricked a lot around college age and early twenties into sleeping with men to “prove” I was good enough for commitment.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 03:42 PM
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Absolutely!!! I also have found that the few times a man I know has been dating a woman who REALLY is crazy, he is fully aware of it, but doesn’t care because she’s hot and the sex is good. I just cannot feel sorry for the consequences that ensue from that at all. My cousin is a magnet for this kind of woman. He dates crazy after crazy, but to his credit, he actually doesn’t disparage them after they break up, because he knew they were crazy from the outset. There’s a reverence when they say, “a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 02:05 PM
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This!!!!! My narcissist ex had me convinced that I was crazy, because I would get mad as a result of his bad behavior and bullying. Also, me being “mad” at that point in my life was just barely standing up for myself. Over and over, something like this would happen. He’d make plans with me, but then fail to show up. I’d call him like 5 times to see where the hell he was. He’d ignore me for the rest of the weekend. When I saw him at school, he’d say, “I’ve been avoiding you. You scare me! Only a …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/03/22 01:21 PM
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I had a NVM ex who seemed kind of sweet and sensitive deep down, but actively disliked that part of himself. He always watched movies about absolutely horrible characters, openly glorifying them and saying, “this dude is so terrible! He did X, Y, and Z. He is so cool!” He was just a broken person, honestly. He had the potential to be an amazing guy if he had wanted to be, but for some reason he hated the thoughts of that. He had deep anger towards women and society, also. He was a former frat bo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/03/22 10:54 AM
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It’s this! All they care about is sex, do they think life is so easy for women because we can find sex easier.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/03/22 10:44 AM
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That’s pretty crazy that he thinks there are no good ones left at TWENTY FIVE. I’m from a small town in the South, and the vast majority of people I knew were not married at 25! Only the extremely religious got “wifed up” before then! If he can’t find a good woman over 25, that is his problem.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 02:24 PM
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Hahaha when I first saw this, I thought it said, “I swore to protect you. Now protect yourself!” which would also be accurate. They love to make such a show about providing for us and protecting us, until it actually comes time to do it, and then it’s 50/50, every man or woman “equal” and for themselves!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 02:14 PM
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This is a commitment phobe’s go to plan! They can propose to get the woman off their back, and that buys them more time, because she is happy with the ring. This happened to my friend. Her ex was basically a walking red flag; let her pay for everything, barely spent time with her, and didn’t marry his ex-wife for 12 years in case she changed. Spoiler alert: he still wasn’t happy, and they got divorced. He told this friend they could maybe get engaged after like 5 years this time, but have a seve…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 01:40 PM
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This this this!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/03/22 12:51 AM
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This was my first thought! Most successful women I have met have a story like this, so apparently someone is finding their money attractive!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/22 02:04 PM
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Also, if I am dressing for anyone, it is other women! So many times I will buy an outfit and think, “Mary will love this! I’m going to wear it next time we hang out.” A lot of women enjoy fashion and dressing up together, and IMO men are irrelevant in this scenario.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/22 02:02 PM
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LOL and that is so stupid, because women outnumber men at almost every college now! Maybe in the 1950’s that was a thing, but very, very few woman are doing this today! Most of us want to better ourselves financially and intellectually, and make friends.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/03/22 01:53 PM
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I agree! And I have also found that many times, he knew the woman was an abuser from the beginning and didn’t care because she was hot and the sex was good. I honestly have zero sympathy for men who put themselves in this situation, maybe unless they were 25 or under when it happened.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/03/22 07:12 PM
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Say it louder for the ones in the back!!! I was abused in a college relationship, but that was ten years ago. I have soooo moved on! After I have been in a relationship for awhile, I will disclose that, but it’s absolutely not material I want to cover anytime soon. At most it will be, “we were immature and didn’t get along,” and like you, I also own my part of why the relationship didn’t work out. Just like you, I needed to work on healthy boundaries and go to therapy, because my ex was a narcis…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/03/22 07:11 PM
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They forgot to add full-time worker and second income, too. That’s the part that really gets me. Housewives in the 50’s worked hard, but now we’re expected to take on both roles from the 50’s.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/03/22 11:33 AM
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Exactly! They love to whine about being used as a free dinner, but nobody is going to do that. It’s so much more satisfying to eat at home alone, in comfort! However, if I am going on a date, I at least want to get something good out of it, so it can be a somewhat positive experience. Getting dressed up and driving to pay for my own coffee is supposed to be rewarding how? You’d think men looking for an actual relationship would see it that way too. Who wants to keep doing something boring like t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/22 02:32 PM
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BuT wOmEn ArE tHe DeLuSiOnAl OnEs! ThEy AlL wAnT cHaD! I’ve never understood that what exactly was wrong with choosing to date the most attractive prospects that ask you out. If they are players, you will figure that out quickly if you vet. At least they actually are, you know, asking you out. Loser men love to make fun of us and call us delusional for “going after Chad,” while they have zero success with twenty-year-olds, and still feel entitled to be with one.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/22 01:44 PM
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Just another reason to insist they pay for the date. Imagine being this woman and paying for the privilege of sipping coffee with someone who thinks of you like this. “I want low investment dates because it’s a numbers game and I can still ask everyone out, durrrrrr.” They will blatantly ask out someone they don’t even find attractive in hopes of free sex, when they could just choose the few women they actually like for a real date. IMO if I am going on real dates and not paying, I will at least…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/22 11:47 AM
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Exactly! I thought, “good luck not having to pay a woman to have your child when she leaves you and you’re single.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/03/22 09:44 PM
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I agree with this! I’m a person who always sees the good in others, and always gives others the benefit of the doubt. This has gotten me so screwed over in dating! I needed to see things like this, straight from their mouths.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/03/22 07:48 PM
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Yes! I’ve had the “whoops it slipped in” for regular sex too, and the asshole gave me a UTI. At the time, the sad thing is that I didn’t realize it was rape.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/03/22 11:40 AM
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Exactly! I could even give a pass to a single parent too, like someone who is fine with the kids he has, but would be open to having another if his future wife really wanted it. But like you said, childless men should know at 45 if they want a family!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 05:54 PM
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Wow, this makes so much sense! Great insights. I used to think they didn’t want hookup women because they saw them as “easy,” but this makes even more sense!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 05:52 PM
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This!!! Or even worse, they frustrated their girlfriend to no end when they were 30. I hope their exes have moved on and had kids with HVM!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 05:51 PM
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Absolutely! Also, your first sentence is everything. It would be absolutely unthinkable for a woman to invite someone over for a homemade dinner, make a cheap, crappy meal for herself, and then demand their date bring their own cheap, crappy item. Guys would rightly say, “why should I waste the gas to drive over there, then? Why should I put in effort to shower, look presentable, etc?” But then somehow they don’t see how doing a cheap coffee date is the exact same thing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 05:41 PM
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Exactly! And honestly, this would make more sense than men flipping out over a $5 coffee. Over the long run, far more women are used for chores and food than men are used for their income.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 11:54 AM
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Exactly! This dude is so stupid. What about female dominated professions, like teaching? I’m a teacher, and if none of my female coworkers showed up today, we would be in big trouble! In fact, most teachers were women even when most women didn’t work. There was never even a time when all women stayed at home!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/22 11:52 AM
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Oh, I bet they are absolutely the mothers who say, “if you’re gonna drink, do it in the house! What kind of alcohol do you want me to buy?”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/22 11:21 PM
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That’s a good point. If I had been successful and happy as a pickme, why would I have wanted to change?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/22 02:51 PM
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This!!! I also hate the push for men to get all sorts of perks on a long paternity leave, because they go through sooooo much. On one hand, yes, I’m glad they are getting a longer paternity leave if they are actually parenting and doing work around the house. However, women have to use maternity leave to not only do all that, but physically recover from having a baby. It’s one of those things for women that men have co-opted too. When I was with my ex, my company (mostly women) only gave 6 weeks…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/02/22 02:11 PM
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Also, if men can’t muster up any sympathy, that just shows they are losers who hate women. HVM are sympathetic to what women go through, and think their wives are inspirationally wonderful for having their children. If you encounter a jerk who has no awareness or sympathy, be glad he took the trash out. He would have shown his true colors at some point anyway.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/02/22 02:03 PM
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Omg. Yesterday in a dating sub, someone said something about liking gentlemen. That’s it. Sounds like an innocuous statement! Or even one anyone on earth would find positive and wholesome. Cue all the men saying, “this sounds like i am going to have to pay for everything! I’d swipe left. It’s not the 1950’s! I want a partner, not a child!” I don’t even get this at all. Someone can’t be a partner if they don’t pay for a meal (since you’re not guaranteed to go on more than one date)? Women in the …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/02/22 11:56 AM
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Exactly! This is the kind of guy who accuses women of UsInG mEn FoR a FrEe MeAl. He is enough of a loser to go out with random people every night, so he assumes all women are the same.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/02/22 11:42 AM
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Men seriously don’t get it. He’s tired, and STILL out $500-600. Why not just choose a handful of the women he is most interested in, take them on a nice date, and have a real chance? That way, he will spend the same amount for a better experience all around. But nooooo. He’s just hoping for sex, so he has to go out with as many women as possible, so at least some of them will take the bait. However, if he had only gone out with the few women who were the best fits, he could have a steady girlfri…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/02/22 11:40 AM
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When ironically, they would also hate us if we didn’t have standards, and made it too easy for them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/02/22 12:46 AM
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Yes to all of that, especially your edit!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/22 01:10 AM
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Exactly! As a teacher, it annoys the hell out of me that you can’t possibly judge anyone in our society for having kids irresponsibly. “Ohhhh you’re 17, your boyfriend’s 21, and neither of you have ever worked before? And your parents are also poor? And you do drugs? I guess it will be great, though, because your boyfriend swears he will stick around and be a good dad. Well, good for you! Babies are a blessing. If you wait until you can afford kids, you’ll never be ready. Children aren’t just fo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/02/22 04:30 PM
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Yes!!! And I think so much of it does come down to the examples you have. My friend’s mom is intelligent and kindhearted, but has married two losers herself. I really think my friend can’t imagine having better for herself! I just wish she would leave, even if she thinks she will never find a better man. Being alone would be sooooo much better than being with a useless lump who contributes nothing. But so many people think you’re a failure if you’re single.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/22 02:16 PM
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It’s absolutely scary how accurate this is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/22 01:56 PM
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I have a coworker who is in a marriage like this, and she voluntarily got pregnant with a second child. Like…why? She already doesn’t even trust her husband to be alone with the first child. I legitimately don’t understand, at all, why she wants to complicate her life like this, and why she is choosing to give another child a useless father.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/22 01:54 PM
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This!!! I’m 34, and the amount of people insisting I have to date a single dad is insane. Why would I want to give up sleeping in on weekends, and enjoying quiet weeknights, for someone else’s kid? I really don’t mind being single. Of course, there is nothing wrong with being a single parent, and I’m not judging them, but merely asking why I should want to make my life harder, when I am perfectly happy being single. Yet people love to insist I will die alone with 500 cats if I don’t date a singl…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/02/22 01:52 PM
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YES!!! I was wondering if anyone else caught that. So many men on that forum are acting like he did her a huge favor to pay for half, but if I were that woman, I’d certainly feel like I was getting a bum deal! Especially considering he was also not willing to offer emotional support.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 01:22 PM
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This is so true! I think it is fine to never have been married by a certain age, but if a guy has constantly been dating and never had a relationship at 40, that would make me curious, especially since more women are wanting to settle down. Either no woman, who was looking to settle down anyway, wanted him, or he strung a bunch of women along. Either way, not a good look!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 01:20 PM
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Reading the comments on this post in its original forum is showing me how many loser NVM are on Reddit. There are a whole lot of, “dude is probably so scared! Suddenly she could decide to keep it, and then he’s on the hook for child support for 18 years. And she thinks she has it bad?!” Ummmm I don’t even know where to start, except to say that I totally, 100% get now why so many NVM think women should pay for the first date. They have absolutely NO insight or empathy for what women go through r…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/02/22 12:59 PM
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This! I reeeeeally don’t understand why they think we need to go through all this just to swindle them out of a free meal. They act like women using men for a free meal is a problem on the same scale as them using us for sex. There are soooo many things wrong with that. They chose to ask us out, so they should choose a meal within their budget. If they don’t, they’re fools. It’s not like this is a surprise expense. It’s soooo much easier for us to come home and order takeout with our own money, …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/22 02:33 PM
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Haha once I went out with an “engineer,” who was not intelligent, to put it mildly. I found out that he worked in a factory, and had “engineer” somewhere in his job title. He couldn’t understand why it was such a problem that he lied, and threw the absolute biggest fit, demanding that I tell him why he has never had a girlfriend. It’s like…I’ve only met you once! I don’t know. But maybe it has something to do with you lying on your profile.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/22 02:00 PM
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But only on command! That entertaining nature could be bothersome when it’s inconvenient, like when he’s playing video games. That is exactly how my narc ex was. He was proud to be with me when we were at a party, and my personality stood out. However, outside of that setting, my personality was a huge drag, and he basically just wanted me to leave him alone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/02/22 11:36 AM
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I completely agree! I didn’t mean to imply otherwise. It just sucks how men don’t want to pay for dates, but still have unrealistic expectations of us, that are backed up by society, a big one being our appearance. A man saying he wants a woman to look gorgeous on a date is seen as normal, while a woman wanting a man to pay is seen as taking advantage. I’m just really frustrated with that dynamic that society endorses!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 09:49 PM
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Exactly! If we have to pay 50/50, then they should have zero expectations about our appearance, beyond just being showered and having basic okay hygiene…exactly the same as their standards. We should be able to roll up in a t-shirt and jeans, no makeup, hair in a neat ponytail, and they should feel alllllllll kinds of societal guilt if they find that less attractive than a made up girl in beautiful clothing. In fact, it should be taboo to even mention it, and men should get SLAMMED for sexism if…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 05:44 PM
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This!!! I often thought marrying a guy in his thirties was my best best when I was a woman in my twenties, BUT I was often just used as a fun fling before they married their age appropriate girlfriend.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 11:39 AM
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This is what I have never understood! I was desperate to start a family in my twenties. I did everything “right,” according to people like this, and never really ran into a guy who was on the same page. So now I’m alone in my thirties, but now I don’t care as much. At least I tried lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/22 11:37 AM
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This is why I hate those movies where the girl is in love with a guy who has never given her the time of day, but once she gets some sort of makeover, he settles for her. I never found that romantic, even as a teen, but I wasn’t sure why. Now it makes perfect sense! The guy is the prize in this scenario, and is open to settling for the girl because he’s desperate, and will now begrudgingly accept her because she meets his bare minimum standards. He knows she will fawn over him, too. I don’t even…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/02/22 11:40 AM
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I can relate to this sooooo much!!! I used to settle for so much less than what I deserved, often because things looked good on paper. But deep down, I knew this guy wasn’t serious about me because he wasn’t over his ex, didn’t want to commit to anyone, etc. I used to think, “I know a lot of women wouldn’t put up with this, and wouldn’t be afraid to leave and never look back. Why can’t I do that?” Honestly, FDS has been the push I needed to become that person! Learning more about how people thin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/22 04:17 PM
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Yes!!! It was so much like a family. Very grateful for that experience!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 07:06 PM
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Yes! It’s a work in progress. I love how FDS has this reputation of being entitled women, when in reality, a huge percentage of us struggle with boundaries, and are not entitled enough. I feel like FDS is what I needed to get rid of some negative mindsets that have been setting me back in dating. I’m the kind of person who always assumes the best in everyone, but I have really needed to see things realistically and establish boundaries.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 07:05 PM
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I was in choir in college, and we always did our tours over spring break. We had a lot of fun exploring new cities and performing, and it was wholesome fun. I was always relieved that I was never pressured to do one of these “college spring break” trips. I had a ready made excuse not to participate, and do something worthwhile instead.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/02/22 12:57 PM
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This! It’s next level selfishness when guys expect you to highly inconvenience yourself for them, when they have no intention of sticking around anyway.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/02/22 11:33 AM
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Why does this teen HAVE to watch people having sex? I would have been so embarrassed to even think about doing that at sixteen. My family raised me with a since of propriety, and I would have felt like a peeping Tom at that age. Why can’t this dude watch romantic scenes in movies or something? Leaves things to the imagination, and the actors are getting paid to give you the idea of sex, not the actual thing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/02/22 11:50 AM
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That’s what I was thinking. He is leaving something out. He is probably tall, but 800 pounds or something like that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/02/22 03:02 PM
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Hahaha I pictured Greg Brady saying it…a high schooler from the 70’s. Sounds about like this guy’s maturity level too!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/02/22 02:58 PM
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She could be a narcissist. My ex’s mom was one, and was like this. It was all projection, because she was manipulative and not genuine, but projected that onto all women. She also felt superior because she had a browbeaten husband who always let her have her way, and made good money. She even said women shouldn’t get paid the same as men for the same work, because if the woman was any good, she’d have been able to secure a high earning husband too. Her own husband hates his life (he even admitte…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/22 03:49 PM
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Omg I love this!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 07:21 PM
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Wow, I think you are so right!!! My mom is in her sixties, and was a homemaker. So we’re most of my friends’ moms, even single moms. My dad always really did right by my mom, so I grew up with that as the norm. It was when I started teaching, and saw how stretched thin so many of my students’ mothers were, that it completely hit home! I literally couldn’t believe that these moms were expected to do what my mom did, but soooo much more on top of it! I think there is really something to what you’r…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/22 01:41 AM
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Yes!!! I’m in my early thirties now, but ever since about your age, this was my biggest fear. Nobody else I knew seemed to care about this at all. When I found FDS, I was like, “these are my sisters!” Finally someone else thinks it’s unfair, and will do anything to avoid these dynamics.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/22 10:14 PM
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That’s very true! It’s tough either way, and that’s yet another reason that men are delusional to think childless women should be lining up to marry them! If it’s hard enough for people already used to that lifestyle, it’s a huge adjustment for people who are not! And the adjustment comes with very few positives for the childless woman. Yet some women do it, and I have never understood wanting sex and companionship that badly. Sometimes I am glad to be an introvert lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/22 03:21 PM
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I actually want kids of my own someday, but as a fellow introvert, I soooooo relate to this! I think the only way I would marry a single dad is if he was a widower with one or maybe two well-behaved kids, who wanted a kid or two with me, and could afford for me to stay home, while he meets the needs of all of us comfortably. At least that would remove a lot of stress in my life, while adding new stresses, so it would likely work out to be about the same, instead of exponentially increasing stres…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/22 02:39 PM
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Just imagine if a woman did this! “LaZy GoLd DiGgEr, OnLy WoRkInG pArT tImE.” In fact, they’d crucify her for working part time, even if she also did all the chores! It’s so ridiculous how they demand we work full-time and do everything else, regardless of the work they do. I was reading that subreddit the other day, and people were really upset that this woman wanted her boyfriend to pay for things, making snide comments like, “LOL one day she is going to want to be a ‘stay at home mom’ haha th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/02/22 01:57 PM
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Mine spent years trying to get back into my life. I gave him a chance a couple times when I was younger, because I thought he sucked as a boyfriend, but was okay as a friend. However, when I learned about narcissism, I realized he was just using me as supply when he was desperate, and have not talked to him in years.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/22 01:13 PM
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Omg. I’m a teacher and get every single one of these. I especially hate the “I was a horrible student!” reaction. Now the dude had just reduced himself to my nastiest twelve-year-old little turd student. Also, once a guy broke up with me. Part of his reasoning was, “I want a woman with a real career.” My day to day life at my job was 10,000 times harder than his, and I’m sure he would have agreed! His job was mainly schmoozing with rich people over golf for his employer, a politician. How dare h…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/22 12:02 AM
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It is so annoying! I used to think, “well, he is just excited about me, but men are clueless as to how this comes across. I guess I’ll just be the bigger person and deal with it, because he could be my soulmate.” Now, in my thirties, I expect a man to have social skills and self awareness to know that early sex talk is a bad idea! He should know how women see it, and it’s not my job to be a charity for him until he figures it out. And no, he will not be a good partner until then.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/02/22 11:46 AM
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Same here! I literally woke up on the day of my thirtieth birthday feeling like a different, better person. It was like magic! Being in my thirties is incomparable in the best way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/02/22 11:32 AM
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Exactly! Spontaneity is planning a weekend trip to the mountains (which for me are an hour or two away) at the last minute, not quitting your job and going on a 3 am trip to Italy with nothing. There is a huge difference in responsibility between those two, and the mountain trip is more fun! If I’m going to Italy, I want to have a plan.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/01/22 01:46 PM
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I saw something on another subreddit recently that said something like, “these women are ugly and can’t get a guy, and think that they deserve a 10/10, without doing anything to change themselves.” I actually laughed out loud, because a huge thing around here is self-improvement, and being the best version of ourselves we can be! We often stress being a HVW ourselves in order to be in a harmonious relationship with a HVM. All I heard from that dude’s comment was, “how dare this woman that I deem…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/01/22 12:52 AM
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Same here! I have always had these views, but never really knew anyone else who felt that way. I came to see the circus, and found people who felt the way I have all my life!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/01/22 12:48 AM
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This! I hate when pickmes insist that there’s nothing wrong with your whole identity being a wife and mother. My mom was a SAHM, but she did charity work, sang in the choir, and was proud of the professional skills she had gained in her corporate job, using them as often as she could. I was proud because I had an actual professional to help me with my school projects. It is not healthy to think of yourself as absolutely nothing but a wife and a mother! You are still a person. Yet pickmes often a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/01/22 11:21 AM
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I dated Desi, and couldn’t stick with it because he refused to wear deodorant. He had really bad body odor, but he claimed deodorant was not a thing in his culture (idk how true that is), and it wasn’t manly to wear it. I really liked him, but just couldn’t overlook the smell. I moved, and he was going to come visit me. I realized how deeply I was dreading the smell, so I cancelled the visit and never saw him again. He was a great guy, and maybe we’d be married today if he had work deodorant. 🤷‍…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/01/22 11:46 AM
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Yes!!! This is what I think about every time I hear 50/50. A cheap man is soooo unattractive, and the movie really did a great job of showing that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/01/22 01:33 AM
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This is what I was thinking! I’m one of those “too sweet” women who doesn’t keep them interested, because they want someone to trade zingers with. I’m also great around the house, have a job, and am mentally stable, and it has gotten me nowhere. Most men put everybody in the FWB category, if truth be told, because they don’t want a girlfriend!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/01/22 09:39 PM
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I agree! I’m 34, and I was more gung ho on getting married and settling down immediately at 24 than I am now. Since I have a thriving career now, I’m less worried about it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/22 02:56 PM
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This!!! Also, my friend’s dad was like 80 when she was born, so she was basically denied any relationship with him. Yet, when a woman has a child at 35-40, judgmental people constantly pop out of the woodwork and say, “yOu’Re So SeLfIsH! YoUr ChIlD wIlL nOt HaVe MuCh TiMe WiTh YoU!” I think that is the dumbest argument! Someone could have a child at 22 and die the next year. A woman having a child at 40 is not depriving their child of a parent, assuming she will not die young. But nobody ever ba…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/22 02:54 PM
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Exactly! When I moved in with my ex, he paid for everything for the house, except for my personal toiletries, etc. He bought all the furniture, and let me decorate the place however I wanted, and reimbursed me. He seemed to understand that I was putting in the effort to make the place look nice, so he should pay for it. I would be sooooo turned off if a guy expected me to do it all!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/22 02:45 PM
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It’s so funny, because the majority of the people on the post said he was TA, and listed the same reasons we did. It’s like they are thiiiiiiis close to understanding FDS. They can recognize that the dude is the asshole, and we are only taking it one step further by saying, “don’t date dudes like this.” They are soooo close to getting it!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/22 02:39 PM
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Especially one from IKEA! That’s about the cheapest place you could possibly find something like that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/22 02:38 PM
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Exactly! Men never seem to see that there is beauty in anyone, even if they don’t want to have sex with her. There are plenty of guys that I’m not attracted to that I can acknowledge look nice in certain ways, nor IMO is it difficult to see the unique beauty in a conventionally unattractive woman. They see it as lying, but it is not!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/22 01:58 PM
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Men certainly don’t think this way about us! I’m an elementary school teacher with basically the personality of Julie Andrews, and men always act super super shocked that i want kids. It pisses me off every time! First of all, wanting kids is on my profile. Second, my job. Third, the fact that I talk often about loving kids. I think they are missing any nurturing in their own lives, and want to be with a nurturer for selfish reasons. If they say, “I don’t want kids, and obviously I knew you do, …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/22 02:55 PM
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Yes!!! It is ridiculous. I’m a teacher, and I feel like a lot of my coworkers are extremely “traditional,” aka clingy, and always put their man first. In fact, I had a coworker who just couldn’t do anything when her husband was out of town except grieve. Once he went out of town for a weekend, and we all invited her out for a girls night. She said, “I can’t come, because my husband is going out of town.” We were like, “oh, so you’re going with him?” She answered, “no, but I only like going out i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/22 02:57 PM
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Exactly!!! People call us man haters, but we actually really love men who are decent people. Also, decent doesn’t mean rich, like they all think. A decent man will be generous and want to provide to the best of his ability, but I think most of us would rather be with an average earning high value man than a stingy rich man who treats us like crap, and acts paranoid over his money. But I think most of the critics of this sub do understand that, and are being intentionally obtuse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/22 02:52 PM
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I had a friend like this too, and it’s disheartening how much society accepts this. It’s seen as nOrMaL, because, “sOmE oF uS lIkE sPeNdInG tImE wItH oUr BoYfRiEnD.” Even my mom would laugh and say it’s typical young woman behavior, and just to wait it out. No. When I was in a relationship, I made a lot of time for this friend. She was single, we had both just started at the same job, and we really relied on each other emotionally. I had a standing Friday date night with her after work, no matte…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/22 02:16 AM
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Yes! No way is he actually 24.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/22 11:32 PM
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Hahaha this happened to me in an “open relationship” that the guy insisted on (we weren’t married though). Then he broke up with me because he liked me too much, and his motivation to go on dates with other women was waning (though he never did go on a single date). LOL what a clown.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/01/22 01:49 PM
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Exactly! Does the mom have any proof that the man’s wife even knows about this, much less that she approves?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/01/22 01:46 PM
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Ummmm I know morality is not really in fashion these days, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. I’d bet most people, even very liberal people, would draw the line at “married boyfriend.” What’s next? “My daughter is dating a serial killer, but I can’t impose my view of happiness. I’ll just pray he doesn’t murder me on the trip!”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/01/22 01:39 PM
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Yes! My parents would never dream of not inviting and paying for us on family trips. Many times, they have also invited our friends or significant others too. But they would never invite one they didn’t approve of! My sister likes “bad boys,” and they have vetoed several. She has never been upset about it; just grateful to have an all expense paid vacation for herself.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/01/22 01:37 PM
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I needed to hear this! I was in an incredibly emotionally abusive relationship a decade ago, and it has definitely damaged me. I tried to normally move on from it, and felt like just because I was over him, I should be totally fine. However, it has colored my life in a way I wasn’t happy with, and I’ve questioned why I couldn’t just leave it in the past and be happy. I’ve had plenty of lingering issues from it, as well as fears that these actions were normal, and I didn’t understand why I was tr…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/22 09:34 PM
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Oh yes! Mine was that way too. He would make a huuuuuge fuss over me in front of friends, and I just wanted to scream, “this is not the real him!” Then he would try to get them to talk crap about me when we had a fight, because they “knew” how well he treated me. And for my birthday, I could pretty much forget a present, unless I was having a big party, and then he spent lavishly on me, so everyone would be impressed with him, and he could be the center of attention! But yes, in private, I was t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/22 09:28 PM
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Has to be a narcissist in the devaluation stage. My nex used to constantly go above and beyond to prove to me that I didn’t matter in his life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/01/22 02:53 PM
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Omg. I had an ex before who kept saying marriage was stupid, and why won’t I just have a child without marriage? Besides all the practical reasons, it’s like…why don’t I deserve the fairy tale? He never, ever had an answer for that. If everyone else I know gets the whole thing…marriage and kids…why should I just settle? Why do I not deserve it too? He kept asking like me wanting to get married was some super crazy ambition, like being a movie star. Uhhhh…no! Everyone deserves the whole package i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/22 05:37 PM
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It makes me soooo mad when I hear stories like this!!! My grandma put my grandpa through dental school, and he never forgot it, and did everything he could to make it up to her the rest of their lives. He was a stand up man, and back then, society would have judged someone harshly for doing this, as well. Now, it’s just seen as fine, with the woman being the fool.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/01/22 11:32 AM
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This! I have never understood why guys just looooove asking out women they don’t like. Why not just wait for someone you do like? Oh yeah. Free sex!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/01/22 02:02 PM
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Exactly! Just be single! People think it’s crazy that I’m past 30 and not lining up to date broke men, men with children, etc. It’s like…I have a great life on my own. Why would I want to give my hard-earned money to someone who didn’t make good choices like I did? Why would I want to spend my saturdays at a soccer game, when I can do anything I want right now? Much less pay for the kid to play soccer, too! I don’t think most men care or think twice about adding responsibilities to your life…but…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/01/22 05:41 PM
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My ex’s parents married when dad was mid-thirties and mom was 18, and it was horrible for him growing up. He said that as his mom grew into her twenties, and started having an opinion, his dad couldn’t take it, and left. The whole thing messed him up so badly he didn’t want to get married!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/01/22 10:00 PM
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I agree sooooo much with what you said about working mothers! I teach elementary school, so I have to be “on” all day, doing a mentally and physically strenuous, stressful job. Even more so now during Covid. I also have to sleep well in order to do this, and go to bed early, since I have to be at work well before Dawn. I have always said that I am absolutely not planning to do this and be a working mom. I know that in reality, I would be responsible for this exhausting day plus all the childcare…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/01/22 02:19 PM
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It’s ridiculous! I had a friend in school whose dad I’m friends with on Facebook. Anyway, his wife tragically died over the summer a few years ago. They had been married probably 40 years! For a few weeks, all he could do was write about how much he missed her. I felt like their marriage was deep and genuine. Then, suddenly, he was talking to one of my former teachers a lot online. She had lost her husband around the same time, so I figured they were friends being there for each other. However, …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/22 09:28 PM
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The good news is that we can still over the top spoil our family and female friends! I have learned to channel my desire to give people nice gifts into those groups of people, who will appreciate it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/22 09:22 PM
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I agree! They are resented more, despite all the blathering men do about wanting a woman who pays half. Kind of how they always say they want an “independent woman,” until they find out her paycheck is higher than theirs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/22 11:52 AM
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Exactly! Their body, their choice if they are truly content being single, and not bothering any woman with any of this crap. But we all know these types are the ones who absolutely can’t and won’t be single!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/01/22 11:42 AM
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I sooooo wish I had known this when I was with my narcissist loser boyfriend in college. I went over the moon for that guy, and he was so contemptuous towards me! If anything, he resented the fact that my dad makes good money, so I could afford the gifts.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/22 01:21 AM
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Narcissists are just so disgusting! My ex got mad at me for “bothering” him while he was sick once. He expected me to just be fine with not hearing from him for a week, at all. He ignored all calls and texts, and then confronted me angrily about how I had bothered him while sick. Ummmm…not a mind reader here!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/22 01:18 AM
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He sounds like a narcissist through and through! My narcissist ex used to loooove pretending to be on the fence about social engagements, so everyone would beg and plead with him to come while he hemmed and hawed. He also loved making anything special in my life a negative experience! Narcs are the worst.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/22 01:16 AM
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I swear their dream is to find a woman who makes maybe 10-20% less than them. That way, they can still justify 50/50, but then brag about being the “breadwinner.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/01/22 01:01 AM
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Yes!!! I just refuse to believe that anyone’s personality is soooo amazing that they’re irreplaceable, despite being dead weight. Of course, I would rather marry a guy who can pay the bills comfortably over a millionaire who is a jerk, but I’m absolutely not settling for someone broke, and I have no clue why anyone does! “Ohhhh I just loooove him so much!” Okay? And? There isn’t one even moderately successful man out there that you could also love?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/21 06:23 PM
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AND…if he is acting this way, he isn’t high value! I used to get so hung up on the idea that the guy I was dating was a great catch, and if I were prettier / skinnier / more fun, he would be clambering to be with me. It made me just want to try harder to win his affection. However, FDS was a game changer by opening my eyes to the fact that anyone who behaves this way is low value anyway! A HVM would just walk away if he didn’t like you. He would have better things to do than have a lukewarm situ…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/21 02:57 PM
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This! And they only mean hot women. The unattractive woman who is pursuing them is not good enough, though she’s probably realistic for them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/21 03:23 PM
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This! And it’s always the ones who are having trouble dating anyway that insist on 50/50. You never see the men who are actually in demand being this way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/12/21 03:20 PM
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Yes!!! This makes me think of the most ridiculous story. Once my dad gave me some money for Christmas, and I wanted to use some of it for a cruise. I had never been on a cruise, so it was really exciting to me! I invited my then-boyfriend, because obviously I wanted someone to come on the cruise with me. Although I was a “gold digger” who didn’t pay for dates, he was getting literally a free cruise! When we were on the cruise (right before we broke up), he started whining about how he couldn’t p…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/12/21 03:07 PM
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Exactly! OR if they want to break up with me, they’ll use that as an excuse. “Oh, you’ll never be happy with me. I can’t give you everything your dad does.” The funny thing is, my parents don’t even live some jet setting lifestyle. They go to the beach every year for their vacation, and maybe eat out once a week. I’m not expecting to have fine dining every night and go on ostentatious trips once a month! Usually the guy is perfectly capable of providing a similar lifestyle on the surface (obviou…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 10:37 PM
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Absolutely! I was thinking, if it was the other way around, and a guy I dated had a mom who was either extremely hot or rich, I’d be like, “wow, she seems cool! I want to be around her!” I cannot imagine finding a mom a threat, unless she was some sort of narcissistic helicopter mom like my first boyfriend’s mom was, lol. If she was a really cool, accomplished person, I would be so excited to get to know her! Guys being threatened is so ridiculous.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 10:34 PM
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Wowww. I would feel so violated! At least he showed you upfront that he’s a creep.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 10:33 PM
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Exactly!!! He was the biggest asshole. The weird thing is, I think there was a decent person buried deep, deep in there, but he was one of those guys who wants to be a jerk, if that makes sense. He idolized celebrities who were jerks, and loved to laugh about how horrible they were. I don’t understand why some men actually want to squash their natural good tendencies, and try to be assholes instead. I’m so glad I got away from him!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 08:21 PM
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Or even working with one! Their hypocrisy is so ridiculous.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 08:17 PM
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This made me so mad! I bet she’ll be a “team player” when he marries her and her family gifts them a house. Or when he can retire early because of her family’s inheritance. That seems a lot more “team player” ish than paying for a couple shots at a bar.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 05:43 PM
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This!!! My family is wealthy, and I think every boyfriend I have ever had has been resentful of it, and seem to harbor a special resentment for my dad. Sorry he is more successful than you, lol. Also, these men haven’t been scrubs; they’ve been educated men in decent professions, who shouldn’t let a more successful man bother them. I’ve never understood the resentment, when they would benefit greatly from marrying into my family, like you said.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 05:42 PM
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This! Plus, most hiring managers are men, not “insecure,” “jealous” women who don’t want someone “hotter” at the office. Why do men not want to hire sex workers if it’s such a wonderful, empowering job that they love to monetarily support? Just goes to show how men really view women in this career that they are so “supportive” of.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 05:39 PM
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Yes!!!! And my absolute least favorite is when they stick up for the “underdog,” extremely hot women who are naturally gorgeous without makeup. That’s always how they plan to get around not liking makeup, and consider uttering these words to make them a candidate for sainthood. It’s like…dude. Super hot women aren’t some underdog class that needs you to stand up for them! I’m sure every guy would love to have an extremely hot woman who doesn’t “need” makeup! But given that there aren’t enough to…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 04:17 PM
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This! Every time I have dated an ugly guy, it has gone down like this. They start out worshiping me, but then grow complacent, and then get this attitude like, “you’re not good enough for me. Let’s see how much hotter I can get!” While guys on a similar level of attractiveness don’t act like that. Even a guy slightly below your level is usually okay. Guys way below make their whole identity about being with a pretty woman, and get an ego.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 03:55 PM
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Yes!!! Never subsidize a man’s dating life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 03:52 PM
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This happened to me when I was young and dumb! I’d been with this guy a few months, and was head over heels for him. He didn’t want to be tied down, and wanted an open relationship. I thought he would eventually realize how awesome I was, so I went along with it. Well…I had 2-3 dates every week with other guys, and he had a grand total of zero. This lasted maybe 3 months, before he complained that he liked me too much, and that it was hard to get the motivation to ask out other girls because he …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 03:50 PM
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Same here! Being vanilla does not mean you don’t like sex, either. It’s not liking the degrading, crazy, porn type of sex!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 03:42 PM
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And then they also claim they don’t like makeup and “fake women.” They expect us to look hot all the time, with just the right amount of makeup. If we enjoy doing over the top makeup for fun, we’re too high maintenance. If we want to relax in our own homes without makeup, we’re frumpy. There is just no way to win.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/12/21 12:36 AM
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Well, for one, they think we just sit around looking hot all the time anyway. They have no idea what goes into getting all done up, and usually think we’re not wearing makeup unless it’s practically painted on. Then when they get married and their wife wears casual clothes and has a low maintenance look around the house, they get angry that she has lEt HeRsElF gO!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/12/21 06:11 PM
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And he only ever wears either thin gray t-shirts, or super old, low quality polo shirts with limp collars and stains. He tries to fit into pre-beer belly jeans, and always wears a belt to make it look like the jeans are too big instead of too small. He wears athletic shoes that are like 15 years old with holes in them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/12/21 06:09 PM
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Omg that is him to a tee! Like..:you 100% nailed it. I can just smell his greasy, stale, poorly washed self from here.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/12/21 06:08 PM
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I love your paragraph about porn robbing you of sexual tension, and that is so true! That‘s just one reason I prefer to wait to have sex. I want to know the guy wants to have sex with me because of who I am, not because he wants to act out something he saw in porn. Heck, even having sex with a guy because he loves my appearance is better than that, as sad as it is! I don’t want to be a vehicle for them to act out whatever they saw in their favorite porn this month. Sorry if that makes me a “prud…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/12/21 02:23 PM
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Yessss!!!!! Say it again for the LVM in the back!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/12/21 12:42 AM
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Highly agree. There are MUCH worse things than being single!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/12/21 07:45 PM
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Very true! My great grandmother ran her own farm for decades after her husband died young. If that’s not a career, I don’t know what is!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/12/21 04:51 PM
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It’s soooooo funny how quickly they’re willing to throw caution to the wind and marry someone they barely know, only to end up right here. Maybe they should be discriminating about who they marry!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/21 10:59 PM
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Omg this makes me so mad! My ex never wanted to get married because he perceived his mom took his dad to the cleaners. In reality, he chose to leave her, and she got half. She hadn’t worked, and he didn’t have a lot of money, so she got half of the little he had. She took that and ran with it, making something of herself. He just moped around about it, and never got anywhere. My ex saw her as the greedy gold digger who took him to the cleaners, but he didn’t have any gold to dig anyway! The nice…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/21 10:56 PM
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The first one sounds like an MLM! This is one of the few scenarios where I would actually rather see a woman in an MLM.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/21 10:11 PM
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Same here. I keep kind of putting it off because I do have a lot of anxiety around Covid. It’s pretty bad here, and I’m a teacher, so I’m already exposed enough. What in the world would make me think some LVM, who is trying to deceive me anyway, is going to be honest and careful? Anyway, I had planned to date last summer, but then I had two unexpected deaths of loved ones, and that kind of put me in a bad mood all summer. This fall has been horrible, since work has been over the top stressful, t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/21 10:33 PM
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Amen! So many men have put me in boxes too. Idk if you are the same, but I am pretty girly, and love dressing up. I veer towards way too formal, haha. I’m absolutely not a jeans girl, and wish I could wear a ball gown every day. Because of this, soooo many men have placed me in the “trophy” box, just someone to take out and have a fling with before settling down with the more “serious” woman. I know I am not for everyone, and FDS has really opened my eyes to the idea that a HVM will just leave i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/21 08:25 PM
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Exactly! It’s one thing to say, “this job doesn’t fit into my life.” It’s another to not see them as human!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/21 05:38 PM
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I absolutely love your energy! Keep on rocking it, Queen!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/21 04:55 PM
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Yes! It has helped me immensely to navigate the world. Men love to scream, “FDS is satire! It’s misandrist! It’s a bunch of ugly women that are female incels!” But they never consider that there are women like me, who have historically been doormats for crappy men. I would be treated with the worst disrespect, and now I see that I allowed it because I was socialized to always kEeP sWeEt. I used to think, “I know some women wouldn’t stand for this treatment, and I wish I could be more like them,”…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/21 04:47 PM
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Exactly! Can you imagine a man saying, “no, I wouldn’t date a nurse, because she has to wash some old dude’s private parts,” or something like that? No! If it’s just like any other job, then they should 100% be open to it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/12/21 02:26 PM
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I have a theory that men like this just aren’t very bright. They probably attracted normal, awesome women in their twenties and thirties, who weren’t marriage obsessed. However, when the women pressed them for marriage and a commitment five years in, they saw her as some crazy bridezilla, and got this idea that all women were desperate for marriage. I have seen this so many times…guys acting like I am crazy for mentioning marriage, and having that as a goal. Somehow, it’s totally fine for them t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/12/21 06:41 PM
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I had a friend like this. She will literally get naked in a restaurant to get male attention (seen this behavior more than once!). The pathetic thing is, she’s usually trying to seduce some waiter she doesn’t even know. “I need change, and the line at the bathroom is too lonnnnggggg!” It always worked though, and the waiter would moon over her the whole night, while acting like I didn’t exist, and giving me terrible service. I eventually got tired of these cries for attention, and quit going any…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/12/21 05:34 PM
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I’m tired of people from other subs saying we think the only thing that makes a man HV is money, and we just want a rich man. Clearly that is not true. Most of us want a man who is generous and invests in us, and can at least maintain a decent standard of living…which is also a standard we have for ourselves. We are not lazy leeches just looking for a wallet!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/21 05:46 PM
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The 2D vs. 7D is so true when it comes to appearances too! Men love to whine and cry that we think most of them are below average…but they are! The bar for us is so high, but the bar for them is basically…use basic hygiene, dress somewhat neatly, and don’t be morbidly obese. And that’s just to be an average guy. Most of us are okay with average, not super hot. Men, however, expect the cream of the crop, and think they are too good for average, even though our beauty standards are much higher all…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/21 02:45 PM
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I agree! I try to just isolate the kid, but I teach specials, so I only have them for an hour at a time. I cannot imagine having the troublemakers for 8 hours a day! I feel bad for the well behaved kids who have to sit with the bad kids, but realistically, the teacher can’t do much else. I’m fortunate to only have to get through an hour with them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/21 07:21 PM
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I agree! And even if it is a psychological need, you can take care of it yourself. I have never seen the point of burdening others with your “need” when there are other ways to meet that need. I.E. people who aren’t ready for a relationship, but want to coerce people into sex anyway. I mean, I get that some people have super high sex drives, but you can take care of that yourself, or at least find others who want casual sex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/21 03:07 PM
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I’m a teacher, and can’t agree with this more. My school has a culture of “always keep the kid in the classroom,” so basically time out is as much as we can do. It is ridiculous! The disruptive kid absolutely should not be allowed to infringe on the rights of 30 others, yet we have to always make the parents happy, basically by keeping their child in school and maintaining the illusion that their child’s behavior isn’t that bad. It’s completely ridiculous!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/21 02:28 PM
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Exactly! And most of them either are HVM men being decent people, or are narcissists. I knew this narcissist who “took on” a single mother and was very involved in the child’s life, and I thought, “well, that is one good thing about him.” Once I got to know him better, I found out he didn’t really treat the child that great, and he wasn’t all that involved. He just bragged loudly about it to look good, like he “saved” the single mom and child. It sucks how men like this hog the spotlight and tak…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/21 11:53 AM
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THIS. This is what most women don’t get.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/21 05:40 PM
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ALSO…it doesn’t work the other way around. Men never want to compete with an ex, unless perhaps they have a white knight complex, which is also problematic (annnnd they are competing with an ex to be seen as a hero in that case, not to actually help the woman feel secure and happy). When I was very young, I dated a narcissist for four years who treated me horribly, and ruined my self-esteem. After that, I was so devastated that I always told guys, on the first date, about how awful my ex was. I …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/21 02:13 PM
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Exactly! Even in my pickme days, I never understood why so many women would date someone who made their life harder. While I had my own issues, I always saw this clearly, and felt I was the only one. Life is hard enough as it is. Why date someone who makes it harder? And I refuse to believe that anyone’s personality is soooooo amazing and irreplaceable that it’s worth living in poverty or having constant drama. The movies want you to think that, but it’s not true.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/21 02:07 PM
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I can relate to this. My family is wealthy, but the fact that I am a teacher kind of obscures this. That just makes it even more ridiculous when guys assume I am a gold digger. Yeah, Jason. You think I’m a poor teacher trying to rip you off with a $15 Applebee’s meal, when in reality, you’d win the financial jackpot with me. I don’t try to hide it, though, but people assume from my job, and the fact that I don’t seem to live a lavish lifestyle, that I’m not rich, until they hear more about my fa…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/12/21 11:53 AM
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I agree! Whereas if she got a good degree, she could leave him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/21 05:41 PM
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All of these seem like special circumstances, not normal occurrences. If he has an unusual day, like a business trip at work that will leave him so busy he can’t text a lot, then you could under that for a day or so. Not every day. If he wants a night out every now and then, and he’s not neglecting what he needs to do, then cool. But he should not be regularly doing this to avoid seeing you. Maybe he got hurt, or had a horrible day, or got home extremely late. Maybe he would just feel so much be…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/21 11:44 AM
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I’m absolutely flabbergasted. While I am supportive of SAHM’s, the fact is…she WASN’T one! She did it all! She worked and did everything around the house and for the kids. Why exactly should he be “resentful?” Sounds like he just wants to brag about an impressive career. Also, why is he supportive of a small business over school? Given how many small businesses fail, or don’t produce much of a profit, that makes no sense. Honestly, I bet he is afraid that if she completes school, she will get a …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/12/21 01:07 AM
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“Cool! You carry the first baby, and I’ll carry the second!”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/12/21 05:25 PM
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You would almost think this is fake, except it seems to have enough “effort” to seem real, like the getting old part. “Deep” thoughts. It scares me that this dude is real!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/21 05:42 PM
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This! Or women who work hard to put them through medical or law school.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/21 05:26 PM
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I agree very much…but I wonder if he had made promises to her, or love bombed her in some way. I have found that when I go out with a guy a few times, and have a nice but appropriate time, it’s not all that bad when they break it off. It might be disappointing, but not on a huge level. However, these guys who insist you’re soulmates on the first few dates, say they have told their family about you, talk about wanting to get married soon, and say they hope you’ll be the one…that’s a different sto…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/12/21 12:07 AM
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Yes!!! I cannot imagine auditioning for a man. Yuck!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/21 11:31 PM
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Men who got their heart broken by their girlfriend their junior year of high school, so they are afraid of commitment, and want you to “prove” yourself.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/21 05:17 PM
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Exactly! It’s like…okay…there is a “reason” for his reluctance, but that’s not an excuse, or a good thing! It’s like someone saying, “I don’t know how to dig a hole, because all of the bodies I’m hiding are in my basement, not buried,” and you being like, “okay! Glad you’re not a bad person, or a serial killer!”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/12/21 11:43 AM
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If only I hadn’t had sex too early, or been too unattractive, the amazing gentleman I went out with would have committed to me. I would be living this wonderful life with him, but instead, here I am alone. Reality: that guy who dumped me for having sex with him, or for no reason at all, was just looking for sex, or was just wasting time. A man who was HV, and really liked you, would want to keep seeing you, regardless of your “performance.” A HVM who didn’t like you wouldn’t lead you on by sleep…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/11/21 11:22 PM
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This! It’s also so ridiculous that men insist their value is in their resources, yet won’t share them. How is this helping them land a woman?! It seems like you need to put your best foot forward, but these losers don’t. Also, I truly believe most women think their dating value lies in their looks, and go all out to impress a guy. Why can’t men do the same with resources? Women are always putting their best foot forward (which sadly includes paying the bill too). When is the last time you heard …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/21 10:51 PM
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Exactly!!! Also, a lot of the loser men even come to realize they want someone their own age. In my twenties, I always dated guys in their thirties who were “more likely to settle down,” but they always viewed me as a fun fling, before settling down seriously with a woman their age. They even come to realize that a woman their age is a lot more compatible!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/21 10:37 PM
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I was actually thinking about this this morning! It actually seems like a huge risk to put off settling down as a man, because you’re banking on being attractive to a twenty-year-old. I actually think that ironically, that is more pressure than we face! You can be an ugly, unsuccessful woman and still find a man to have children with. However, the ugly, unsuccessful 47-year-old man will never find someone willing to have children with him…and if he does, she will undoubtedly not be the hottie he…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/21 05:53 PM
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“Need” bothered me, too. I hope to be a SAHM, but it is not a need. When I read “need,” it gave me the nagging feeling that he is requiring her to be one, for reasons he will not be convinced to change his mind about.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/21 02:15 AM
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This is so true. Happened to a friend, too. Husband started off claiming to be wealthy, and now she works her fingers to the bone to provide for him and his extended family.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/11/21 02:12 AM
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Amen! I especially feel it is in bad taste to judge anyone for being single during the pandemic. I’ve been single for years now, but I’m sure it would have been a shorter duration if not for Covid. The dating world is just not the same as it was before, and it was hard enough then!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/11/21 10:02 PM
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At least he can’t get pregnant on top of not having an orgasm. And he’s also probably not being used for sex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/11/21 01:58 PM
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Yes! The first year my ex and I were together, he got me a kitchen aid mixer that I had really been wanting. To this day, it is one of my favorite gifts!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/11/21 05:44 PM
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Also, the thing is…I don’t like coffee, and don’t enjoy going to coffee shops with friends. Why should I be forced to do an activity I don’t enjoy with a date? It seems like dating 101 says you should do something your date likes. I have never met someone who doesn’t enjoy going out for dinner, however. I’d assume a much larger portion of the population enjoys having dinner out more than hanging out in coffee shops!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/11/21 12:16 AM
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Exactly! My mom’s mind was seriously blown when I explained to her that a lot of men use OLD for free or cheap prostitution services. It made sense to her once I explained it, but she was horrified.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/11/21 02:43 PM
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Also, even moms who do online dating are in a different world. My widowed aunt met a great guy who wanted commitment on day one of online dating, because divorced or widowed older men are desperate to settle down again. After having their wives run the household for them all those years, they feel like they are drowning without it. That’s a lot different from a younger man who 1) wants to have sex with tons of women over anything else, and 2) is fine living in filth. These older men are used to …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/11/21 02:41 PM
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Wait a minute…so he’s really whining about having to work, while COMPLETELY disregarding that women have to be pregnant and give birth (at least in this type of family)? Is he serious right now? Let’s see you get pregnant and give birth, Jason. These days, most people work, single or married. I’m an unmarried woman providing for myself right now. By his logic, I should believe I have it worse than some of my coworkers, who are pregnant and taking care of toddlers while also working the same job …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/11/21 02:09 PM
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Oh wow…this is a great point! Men have no idea how unequal everything really is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/21 01:29 AM
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This! Also…it bothers me so much when they sarcastically say, “you insisted on being equal! Wanna be equal? Pay the bill!” Uhhhhh…okay? Is women wanting equality a bad thing? It always exposes them as being misogynists when they say this, because it proves they don’t see us as equal. It would make more sense if they said, “I’m glad women are working towards equality in the workplace, but let me treat you, because dating is different.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/11/21 10:49 PM
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I’m thanking my lucky stars that you didn’t sleep with this fool! Good riddance to that loser!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/11/21 11:00 PM
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I hate when these “very important” men (who are probably married) say they can’t show their picture because of the nature of their work. I’m a teacher, and do feel uncomfortable about possibly being identified by a parent, but as a woman, not having a picture is pretty much not an option. What career are these men supposedly in that makes showing their picture soooo compromising? What’s really up is that they think they’re so special, and their profile is so sparkling, that they are too good to …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/11/21 02:18 PM
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I’m so glad to read this! I feel like I found FDS in a similar way, feeling like I was the only person around me who saw things the way I did. I’m American, and my parents have a very traditional marriage. My dad is an excellent provider, while my mom is an amazing homemaker. Both work really hard at their roles, and do the best they can. However, I started looking around, and realizing that SO many women work as hard as my mom around the house, but also work full time, while their husbands only…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 10:19 PM
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Wow! This is seriously an amazing point. It’s a great comeback to people who insist pOrN iS jUsT aS mUcH fOr WoMeN.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 09:54 PM
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The last one is so true for jobs, too. I know multiple men who are chronically unemployed, and it’s always a sob story of, “his work was affecting his mental health! He is too traumatized to work!” Okaaaayyyy? I had a job where my manager was a narcissistic, bitter short man, who bullied me mercilessly. I ended up with PTSD! Yet, I put one foot ahead of the other, and kept working, because I had no other choice. And then you know what I did? I found another job! I still actually have scenarios t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 09:52 PM
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Exactly! Men fear spending a few dollars on a date with a woman who turns out to be a little heavier than he’d thought. I wish that was my biggest fear! Yet women fear being assaulted in multiple ways, or just coerced into sex. And they’re supposed to be happy about it, because sleeping around is “empowering,” even if the guy tricks them into it. Oh wait! Why don’t we convince guys that paying the bill is “empowering?”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 09:41 PM
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Also LVM: “being used for a $20 dinner is just as bad as being used for sex!” Uhhhhhhh…no…it’s really, REALLY not. Plus, sorry, spending $20 on a woman who doesn’t turn out to be his soulmate is just a risk of dating for men. I’d take that risk over, say, being r*ped or murdered.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 08:45 PM
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Exactly this!!! Also, ironically, real gold diggers seem more accepted in our society than average women who just have not-floor-level expectations. People basically respect that a gold digger’s relationship is transactional, and praise her for being honest. However, your average woman who expects a man to pay for a $20 dinner at Applebee’s is some kind of villain.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 08:43 PM
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Your paragraph about what money buys is everything! Yet women are shamed for giving a hoot about that, while men aren’t shamed for only caring about looks.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 08:42 PM
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And if she does, she’s desperate and baby crazy! I am totally that person right now. I’m in my 30’s and want kids, but guys only hear, “I will force a relationship no matter how much it sucks, and I will steal your sperm in your sleep!” Many men are wary that I will have a child and then immediately divorce them, which is such a huge insult, considering my parents married and had kids in their 30’s, and have been married 35 years. Uhhhh no, Jason, I’m not going to marry an axe murderer just to c…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 03:45 PM
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Yes!!! I wear foundation, powder, blush, bronzer, black eyeliner, mascara, sometimes false eyelashes, and lip balm, and I can’t tell you the number of men who have said, “I love that you feel secure enough to not need to wear makeup.” I’m like…how do you think this black outline around my eye got there?! When I was a teen, one guy even asked if my father allowed me to wear makeup. Uhhh…my father has no clue what makeup I wear! Yet when I don’t wear it, I get, “are you okay? You look sick.” They …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 03:40 PM
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I lIkE a WoMaN wHo DoEsN’t WeAr MaKeUp! I’m WiLlInG tO sEtTlE fOr a 10/10 NaTuRaL wOmAn!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 02:13 PM
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I was thinking the other day, with all the technology we have, it almost seems like men would have the ability to carry a baby by now. …but then I realized that men are the ones deciding which scientific advancements we research, and they do NOT want to carry a baby.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 02:12 PM
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LOL they get soooo offended! I got downvoted on another dating sub yesterday when I just stated a preference for dinner dates. I said absolutely nothing about cost, or who would pay, but focused on why I like them…it’s always interesting to meet someone new to me, you don’t have to carve out time in your jam-packed schedule in the middle of the day, and anecdotally, all of my relationships have come from dinner dates. The men clearly have no tolerance for people who feel differently, and just do…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/11/21 02:09 PM
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That’s true. One of my coworkers pretty much openly hates her husband, yet she is pregnant by him again, and has no intentions to leave. She just doesn’t want to be seen as single by society. She really should leave, because he is useless in every way. Her life would be way easier as a single mother! She is the breadwinner and bangmaid, and has said she fears dying young, because her husband could never care for their child without her. Why stay with him?!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/11/21 06:24 PM
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This makes me so angry. My grandmother worked hard to put my grandfather through school, and he never stopped being appreciative for it. He was a nice looking doctor, and he could have divorced her and had any woman he wanted, but he loved her, had integrity, and never lost sight of the sacrifices she made to get him where he was. I think having those role models all my life makes me even more angry at men who use women to get to a better spot in life, and then leave when they are successful! Th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/11/21 03:06 PM
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This! Also, most women don’t get bitter if we are passed over because of looks. If a 10/10 hot model type guy turned me down, I would honestly get it. However, they get soooo pissed off if they are rejected, and we choose to go out with someone more financially stable. And honestly, finding a partner who has their life together is way more important than looks. I reeeeaally don’t get why society acts like avoiding a broke partner is a huge sin, but wanting a hot partner is understandable. There …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/11/21 03:01 PM
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This!!! I have never understood why, to some women, some dude who is broke, disrespectful, lazy, and just an all-around bad person is worth it. I mean, what is so special about their personality that they are completely irreplaceable? What is so special about their personality that a responsible, kind man couldn’t replicate? I have never understood why people are willing to put up with awful personality traits, but then again, I don’t mind being single, either.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/11/21 11:35 AM
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Absolutely! I remember thinking it was the norm. I was at a conservative Christian college, and I felt bummed out about all the fun everyone else was supposedly having. Most of my classmate were proclaiming to wait until marriage, so it was definitely not a hookup atmosphere. Then, I went to grad school at a huge, liberal party school, and quickly found out that casual sex sucks. Still, I thought it was the norm until much later, and that I was some weird, sexually conservative freak for not lik…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/11/21 05:11 PM
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I wonder if maybe her parents are controlling nut jobs, but in a different way. I went to college with a girl who clearly had overbearing, fundamentalist religious parents, and she was in a creepy relationship like this. She was already brainwashed, and found her abusive boyfriend preferable to her crazy parents. She basically just switched to a different brand of abuse, and who even knows what happened to her, since she dropped out of college after a year.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/11/21 12:41 PM
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This! I used to have this happen all the time, and thought I just wasn’t hot enough, or I had gone too far physically. I’d blame myself for screwing up things with such a great guy. Now, thanks to FDS, I know that a “great guy” would just leave if he didn’t like me, not downgrade the quality of our dates! This mindset is a game changer.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/11/21 01:41 AM
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This is just sickening! Meanwhile, you never hear about a woman planning to leave her boyfriend when she loses weight, for instance. Usually it’s the man with the problem in that circumstance, too! The only time you hear of a woman leaving after getting more attractive is when the man is insecure and upset that she is prettier, and drives her to leave.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/11/21 01:15 AM
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Yes!!! And honestly, it puts you in an uncomfortable situation, especially if you’re not married. My ex’s house was filthy, and I would actually clean (vacuum, scrub, etc), but I felt weird messing with his stuff. We weren’t married, it wasn’t my house, and I felt weird either demanding someone live a certain way in their own home, or moving someone else’s things around in their own home. I feel like an adult should have enough pride to want to live decently! I always felt really weird about mov…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/21 08:33 PM
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My ex always did this!!! The worst was his joke attempt to unload the dishwasher. He would put crap in the most random, stupid places! I tried to explain to him where things went, and he brushed it off, saying, “I’m not stupid.” Well, dude, you kinda are! That random glass goes with the other glasses, not the plates, and no, the cutting board doesn’t go on top of the toaster oven!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/21 08:30 PM
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That’s awesome! I actually hope to be a SAHM one day. My mom was one, and I’ve basically always wanted to be one. I am super lucky, though, that my family has money, so I always have that to fall back on. Now I just have to meet a guy who is okay with it! Most aren’t, even if you have money, because they think it’s doing nothing, and they’re jealous. They want you to do “nothing”…aka all the chores…and work full time to be “fair!”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/11/21 12:44 AM
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If anything, FDS encourages people to not become a housewife! Most people here are all about being financially independent, and the usual way to do that is having a career, in lieu of family money, the lottery, or whatever. I see a ton more posts about having your own money than anything else!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/11/21 08:36 PM
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Yes! I’m 34, and think my teenage years (early 2000’s) were the worst time to come of age, because you had to be stick thin! I was soooo thin back then, but have always been tall / had a bigger frame, and felt like a giant. All of my pre-pubescent-looking friends looked like little girls, and I was so jealous that I looked like a young woman. Even though the trends are annoying today, it seems like an easier time to be a teen!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/10/21 08:36 PM
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Yes!!! I never had a real opinion on her, positive or negative, and it’s great to see that she is such an amazing person!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/10/21 08:38 PM
41

Yes!!! And I am fortunate enough to come from a family with money, and men still get butthurt about that. They always have a ton of resentment towards my dad, about how he’s rich and they’re not. Sometimes they also get mad that I have money that I don’t have to work for. I acknowledge that I am incredibly fortunate, but I do work a full-time job and support myself, with a gift here and there from my parents. Most guys can’t see the middle ground, though, and get jealous of my dad. It seems like…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/21 01:06 PM
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That is horrible! I’m glad you got out. I had a weird date one time, and I am now starting to think it was this kind of dynamic. I was seeing a guy, and we’d been on a handful of dates. I was telling a story about some friend’s loser boyfriend, and how my friend deserved better. That’s when the guy passionately exclaimed, “it’s so unfair! Guys like that can have a wonderful woman, but here I am…haven’t been on a decent date in forever!” I was absolutely stunned, because obviously I was a good da…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/21 10:49 AM
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And she has to be a raving natural beauty. None of that makeup stuff, or heaven forbid hair extensions, false eyelashes, nails, etc, or she is “insecure!” These guys are such saints, denouncing beauty standards, and pulling for the “underdog” super hot girl! I mean, super hot girls are definitely sooooo overlooked, and need these wonderful gentlemen to notice them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/10/21 10:43 AM
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This is like when men sat, “only men can have real friendships. I know women so well, and they are all too catty and selfish.” Ummmm…look at all the women with close female friendships, and compare that to the men with close male friendships! Also, women do better after a breakup for a reason. Their female friends rally around them, offering support, while men wallow alone. But yeah, tell us more about how we’re too catty to be friends!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/10/21 12:31 PM
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This! And I hate how it burns bridges with the woman. I’d much rather be friends with the woman than the douchebag man, but she will never give you a chance!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/10/21 12:51 PM
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Wow. This is so true! It definitely makes sense. I had never quite been able to figure it out, but that is exactly why they do it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/10/21 12:16 PM
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And people are worried that too many women are becoming doctors, and giving it up to be stay at home moms! Uhhhh, we should be worried about male losers giving it up to do nothing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/10/21 04:36 PM
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Ha! Reminds me of this dude I was in high school chorus with. He was an accomplished piano player, and he’d always yell out stuff like, “Mrs. Smith, you didn’t tell me you were playing this song in duper meter instead of triple! You slay me!” He missed no chance to let us know how important he was.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/21 06:49 PM
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I’m celibate by choice, but I am kind of surprised at how long it has been. I could go out and easily have sex tonight if I wanted, but I don’t want to have sex unless I’m in a relationship. However, I never expected to be celibate at 34, as I thought I’d marry a great man years ago, and be happily married long before now. Still, I’m a lot happier celibate, and with my standards, than I was when I was getting used sexually on a regular basis. It just sucks how few decent guys are out there, and …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/21 06:38 PM
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I love how nasty and upset they always sound. 99% of the posts here sound like the person feels passionate but neutral. I usually get the feeling that the person posting is not upset. On the other hand, these incels always sound super defensive, aggressive, bitter, and like they’re about to lose it! I can’t imagine getting so triggered over a sub someone is on!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/21 06:21 PM
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This! Men don’t care about housework or caretaking, so they think it’s easy and inconsequential…but guess who gets blamed…the woman! My ex saw no value in a housewife, because his own standards for cleanliness were super low. He insisted that if we ever got married, I’d have to work because feminism, although I am fortunate enough to have family money to fall back on. I did all of the cleaning and housework on top of a full time job, and he expected that to continue if we had kids. He had no clu…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/21 05:25 PM
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This reminds me of those guys on OLD who insist they’re incompatible with women who don’t ride bikes or go mountain climbing every weekend. I always assumed they were short sighted and idiotic, and obviously that stuff would fall by the wayside when they have kids. Apparently some of these losers hold you to it indefinitely!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/10/21 05:18 PM
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“I’m not a free sex worker for anyone” is my new go-to line!!! I love that! I agree with everything you said 100%.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/10/21 01:43 AM
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This is so true!!! Also, I love the point you made about how men don’t have the perspective to look inside themselves for validation. That is the truest thing I have ever heard! Such a thoughtful, insightful post.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/21 08:24 PM
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Yes yes yes!!! I am single and celibate, and it has zero to do with religion. I just got taken advantage of so many times in my twenties, both with sex, and even things like phone sex or BJ’s with someone I was only on the first couple dates with. IMO, it’s just not worth it to be sexually active at all until you know someone! Our grandmothers knew this, and I think it’s just common sense.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/10/21 06:57 PM
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This is so true…and you never, EVER see a man doing the same! Even if he is with a lazy woman who doesn’t work or do much around the house (which is rare as it is), you NEVER see them shouting from the rooftops that they are Superman! That’s because men have been taught they are worth more, and become resentful when they are being used. These aggressive pickmes are so infuriating, and there is no male equivalent of them!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/10/21 06:43 PM
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Me too! People made fun of me all the time in middle school for being sheltered and naive. I also have hated, at any age, when people made talking about sex their entire personality. I just think there are more interesting things to talk about, and always have!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/10/21 02:10 PM
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For real! I knew a guy in real life, and had for a decade, and had no idea he was married! To this day, his social media has no sign of it. The only trace of it is their wedding website from a few years ago, if it even exists anymore. He would always pull the, “I can only go on a date at midnight” crap too, and turns out, this is why!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/10/21 06:49 PM
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Me either! My Reddit feed was soooo dull without it!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/10/21 10:34 AM
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I don’t even believe this guy is a dentist, but if he is, he is the biggest, cheapest douche. My dad is a dentist, and is the most generous person I have ever met! I can’t think of anything less attractive than a guy who earns the same as my dad, but is cheap and stingy. I think it is even worse to be that way when you can afford to be generous without it even affecting you!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/21 10:54 AM
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Or a law enforcement officer who says, “I practice law.” I also once went out with a guy who called himself an engineer, but in reality, he worked at a factory, and his title was something like, “bottle cap engineer.” He was dumb as rocks, and then was surprised / hostile when I didn’t go on a second date.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/21 10:53 AM
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This is what I thought! He is trying to make it appear he is a dentist, when he is really not.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/21 10:51 AM
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And the only time you see a dad doing this is if he gets divorced, and wants to pander to single women by looking like a devoted dad!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/21 10:46 AM
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I can relate so much to your first paragraph! I always looked forward to being 30+, even as a teen! Older women were so fascinating to me for the same reasons you mentioned, and I looked forward to being like that one day. For instance, when I watched a movie or TV show, I always cared about the adult women characters, even if the main character was a teen. My favorite TV show in high school was who’s the boss on nick at nite, where I thought Angela was so cool, and didn’t give a hoot about Sama…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/10/21 10:43 AM
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Your last paragraph is so true! It makes sense for women to seek out a high earning man. If she plans to have children, she is putting herself in a very vulnerable position, and having someone to pay the bills while she is it of commission is ideal, even if she has her own career. If your baby is in the NICU for months, nobody wants to rush back to work and hustle, because their husband is broke. Also, my friend almost died in childbirth, and had a paralyzed leg for a couple months! It was a goo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/21 02:04 PM
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Same here! I was also raised to not express emotions, and in a culture of toxic positivity. As long as I acted happy, things were great. I was never allowed to be angry, or to cry in front of everyone. My parents meant well, and they were raised the same way, but they absolutely created a toxic positivity environment. If I got upset about anything, they would act inconvenienced, and remind me that a lot of people had it worse. If I got extremely upset, they’d act like it was super abnormal. I ev…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/21 10:44 AM
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/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 09:39 PM
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This!!! And when you do have an awful time at your desk job (although not to the degree of porn, obviously), people are very sympathetic! I had a narcissist boss with short man complex who traumatized me and gave me PTSD, and I have never told anyone who wasn’t extremely sympathetic! People feel really bad for you if you are bullied at a conventional job, although you are not being degraded and dehumanized like sex workers are. It makes me so mad that people will not take the trauma of sex worke…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 09:37 PM
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Whoa. Mind. Blown! I have never thought about that before, but it is so true! She would probably argue, “well, the woman is getting paid.” Idk about you, but I’d rather take my chances of being a housewife to some religious dude before I would take my chances doing porn, if I had to choose! At least with the religious dude, there’s a larger chance you will be treated well, and won’t get thrown away after a certain age.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 09:11 PM
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Wow, is he my ex? LOL! That was my ex’s exact diet, and it was gross. He wouldn’t even eat healthy foods that I cooked! He insisted on eating crap all the time, and sleeping with a Mountain Dew beside the bed!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 06:40 PM
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Hahahahaha that is sooooo funny!!!! Plus if it doesn’t apply to them, why are they so upset? If I saw the same thing but about women, I wouldn’t care, because I am not like that. LOL definitely the irony!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 06:38 PM
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Plus it’s creepy as hell to lurk in the parking lot. If he had to “surprise” you (which would massively creep me out anyway!!!), he should have the balls to walk into your work. Better yet, he could send a gift to your work instead, if he wants to give you a surprise at work! I’m amazed at the audacity of this loser.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 01:52 PM
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I had this guy after me once who was really short, and fetishized my height. I don’t understand why guys don’t realize we hate being fetishized! It is NOT a compliment. They would be so much better off at least pretending to be interested in you as a person; that would yield way better results than openly drooling over your height!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 01:51 PM
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“Free therapist for men who were bullied in high school!” YES!!! This is my new go-to line when explaining why I don’t try to “work things out” with emotionally damaged men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 01:49 PM
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This!!! I never understood why incels are so mad that women want to be with “Chad.” They love to scream all day about how stupid women are, since Chad is just using them, and they should give a “nice” wittle incel a shot. I’m like…okay…if Chad is using them, they will figure that out and dump him. But why fault them for choosing their most attractive option? I don’t see men clamoring to date women in the lower range of the ones they can attract. Why are they insisting we do that?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 10:51 AM
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Wow, that is horrible!!! Looking for younger girls?! What a loser. I’m sooooo happy you got out of that! We all did dumb things when we were young and stupid. I’m sure he has gotten nowhere in life, with his attitude.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/21 10:23 PM
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My friends and I went on a vacation to Chicago, and we ate at a Russian restaurant. The waitress was from Russia, yet we heard this loser dude mansplaining about Russia to her! Like, excuse me? Shut the hell up! We pretended we needed the waitress just to get her away from him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/21 04:34 PM
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When I started reading this, I expected them to be like 45. Who pressures their 22-year-old wife to do this?! Who is that bored already?! As I kept reading, I understood why. This poor girl needs to get out now! She has no idea how young she is, and how much happier she will be single.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/10/21 10:40 AM
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Yes!!! I doubt he will be a very good doctor. Plus, he was extremely un-empathetic. I opened up to him once (after knowing him for months) about a time I was taken advantage of sexually, and he actually got upset! He said, “that is a lot to unload on somebody.” Well, what if one of his patients told him that? I definitely was guilty of over sharing occasionally during my pickme days, but I had known him for months at that point. We were discussing differences pertaining to sex, and I felt comfor…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/21 08:48 PM
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Dentists are very cool, but I am definitely biased. 😁
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/21 08:45 PM
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In my flock, I’ve seen a lot more makes fight over females! I’ve had a lot of different dynamics. At one time, I had 1 male and 4 females, and now I have 7 males and 4 females! Two of my birds just had three chicks, which were all boys, so that skewed the numbers more. However, the females really don’t mind being single! In fact, I had 4 and 4 recently, and one female just didn’t want a mate. It might be different with different birds; I have budgies. It’s just like people though…the men are the…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/21 08:40 PM
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They are budgies! I absolutely love them! It’s so interesting to watch animals behave in groups. I also love photography, and they are fun to photograph! They are the best little pets, and I love them so much!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/21 08:38 PM
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Yes! And it was like he found it funny, like, “tee hee! Look at ditzy little me! Don’t even know my way around the kitchen!” It would always piss me off, because it would take twice as long to hunt down all the stuff he unloaded. I actually preferred for him to just leave it in the dishwasher…which, to him, was mission accomplished!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/21 08:35 PM
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This! My ex was ridiculous about putting dishes in weird places. The only time he touched the dishwasher was if he specifically needed something washed. Then, he would put everything up in the most ridiculous spots! I mean, the pots go with the other pots. The glasses go with the other glasses. It was ridiculous! He loved doing that to “prove” he was useless around the house!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/21 06:56 PM
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The next time I’m kicking myself for being deluded about something, I’ll think about this!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/10/21 06:54 PM
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This! It sounds ridiculous, but I have become even more entrenched in FDS values since I got pet birds. The male always courts the female to a huge degree before she will even consider mating with him! He feeds her, grooms her, and protects her for months without getting any sex in return. Also, he has to help her secure a nesting site, and protect that site, before she will have sex! Can you imagine if birds could talk, and he said, “you gold digger! Go find your own food, and then we’ll have s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/21 09:06 PM
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This is what gets me! Women try soooo hard to avoid looking needy or desperate. Yet, men have no shame!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/21 01:52 PM
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Same here! I once went on a nice first date, but his behavior drove me so crazy that I cancelled the second. These guys are so insecure, but if they would just calm down, they might get somewhere!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/21 01:51 PM
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LOL! “Self employed” on dating sites means, “I mow my neighbor’s lawn once in a while since I lost my job three years ago. I’m looking for a real woman, not a gold digger!”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/21 01:46 PM
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I dated a guy like that in college! He was this geeky med student, and had never really gotten any attention from women. I met him before I knew what he did, and it was one of those love at first sight meetings. Anyway, as time went on, I found he was soooo full of himself! And for what?! He had actually failed a year of med school, and was on academic probation. He had absolutely nothing to be so cocky about! When we broke up, he spent an entire day nonstop sending me horrible, obscene messages…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/10/21 01:44 PM
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Well, we wouldn’t want to be a gOlD dIgGeR. Heaven forbid they have to pay for the food! /s
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/10/21 12:41 PM
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Exactly! And also, why would you want to do it for them when they have just insulted you, and every other woman on this side of the planet?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/21 02:26 PM
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Exactly!!! Average Margaret down the street would love to be with them, but they only care about the hottest women. And of course they want tall men! They can choose anybody! Don’t feel bad about having your preferences, either. Men certainly don’t!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/21 02:22 PM
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As a tall woman, I don’t get guys who make being short their personality. I have never had a problem finding guys taller than me, or about my height, because a large percentage of men are taller than me (I’m 5’9”). It should be the same for a man; most women are shorter than most men, so the average short man should have plenty to choose from who are their height or shorter. Of course there are extreme outliers, but most men who complain about being short aren’t that short. And yeah, of course s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/21 01:58 PM
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Yes!!! They hate when you eat salad on a date because “you’re trying to hard to impress them.” Uhhhh…I’m eating a salad because I’m doing CICO, in an effort to lose weight for myself. I would also be eating a salad if my family or friends were there! It has literally nothing to do with them. Plus, why is it such a bad thing if someone is trying to impress you? Maybe they should put some effort into that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/21 01:53 PM
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And then they want praise and a pat on the back for being “anti makeup.” Instead of perpetuating beauty standards by wanting a woman who wears it, these saints are willing to accept a naturally super hot girl who doesn’t even “need” it, by their standards! Wow, naturally flawless, super hot young girls are such an underdog class! It’s just so amazing that they have these saintly men fighting for them to be accepted.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/21 01:52 PM
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This is why I think men are projecting when they tell women they should fear growing old alone. “Youuuuu rejected meeee!!! Wahhhhh! You’re a washed up hag who will die alone, because Mr. Perfect doesn’t exist!” Whatever, Jason. First of all, women outlive men anyway, so even most women with a good husband will lose him eventually, and end up “alone.” Secondly, women don’t fear this! My grandmas both outlived their husbands by 15-20 years, and they had amazing lives! They traveled, spent time wit…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/21 01:26 PM
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This! They complain about American women wanting them to pay $15 for a first date, and call her a gold digger, but then their imported wife expects them to pay for her, the children she already has, and their future children! She absolutely will not get a job, many times even after she can work, and plans to leave him if he won’t provide. That’s how her culture is, and these loser men have no idea. I think it is hilarious! These men deserve it if they fail to do their research on that big of a s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/21 01:23 PM
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Oh yeah. “Western women don’t cook and clean anymore! Wahhhh!” Uhhh they do…just not for you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/09/21 01:20 PM
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Exactly!!! They say this, yet are terrified of being used for a $15 dinner.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/21 09:42 PM
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And it also makes no sense. So many of these dumbasses with 2+ year long dry spells don’t want to be tied down, either. They like to fantasize that they are some kind of player. How’s that working out for you, Brian? If you were open to having an actual girlfriend, you would have had sex in the last two years! I truly believe any guy could find a girlfriend if he put in the effort, and genuinely wanted to settle down. Yet, they refuse to do this, because they want to be a player. I think the abs…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/21 09:39 PM
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My ex of five years had “issues” stemming from his parents’ marriage. I do believe that he actually had a reason…their marriage was very rocky, and their divorce was terrible at first. However, anything in life is a gamble! I pointed out that if his worst fear was ending up like his parents, it wasn’t really all that bad. Today, they are friends, and even sometimes do things alone together. Honestly, that is not worst case scenario! He took me making that point as “proof” that I would divorce hi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/21 02:17 PM
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Wow, you’re so right! This must be their mindset. That’s so sad, because even when I settled for less, I knew it was less, and aspired to one day be in a better relationship. I guess I could see how someone could want to drag everyone else down, but it seems a lot easier to start having standards yourself, than it is to convince everyone else to lower theirs! I hope these women wake up one day.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/21 02:05 PM
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This! And I really don’t get it. I used to be a pickme, but I was ashamed of how little my boyfriends cared, not proud!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/21 10:52 AM
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Narcissists is so true! I can imagine how much easier my life would have been if I had set up even the simplest boundary with my nex.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/21 10:45 AM
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Plus it seems like the white picket fence dream has more to do with finances…aka one or both members of a couple can afford to buy a nice home. Is having an open marriage suddenly going to affect their finances? If it’s making them poorer, even more reason not to do it!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/09/21 10:43 AM
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Yes! LOL I had this dude who wanted me to drive three hours to audition against this girl he met the week before at the club. Block and delete!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/21 06:19 PM
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This! It’s so infuriating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/21 06:19 PM
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i’ve never understood why they would ask that, anyway. Clearly, if they asked you out, they have decided you’re worth it. They should be trying to show what they bring to the table, so you will give them a chance. I guess things are different in these 50/50 times, though. A man might as well just go on a date with any woman he meets if it isn’t costing him anything.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/09/21 04:35 PM
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I hate when I see things on dating subreddits like, “this new guy I just met paid for both of our first two dates. They were to Olive Garden, which is such a nice restaurant. I feel so guilty about taking his money!!! How can I make it up to him??” The bar is in hell. I’m so glad I grew up with a provider dad who taught me to expect a man to do the same.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/09/21 09:22 PM
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This is so true! I think focusing on any of them is usually an unhealthy coping mechanism. I used to say mine were words of affirmation and quality time, but when I got to the root of that, I realized it was because my first boyfriend was a narcissist who put me down all the time, and never wanted to spend quality time with me unless he needed attention. So at that point, having a boyfriend who complimented me and loved spending time with me sounded like the dream. Then I realized how unhealthy …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/09/21 02:22 PM
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“Daring to be treated well”…exactly! Nowhere does it say that she even asked for these things. It’s the same way that these losers get mad at me on other subreddits for accepting dinner dates. “You’re a gold digger! You should be going on coffee dates!” Okayyyy…I’m a gold digger for accepting someone’s offer? Am I also a gold digger for accepting a platonic friend’s offer to dinner? A party invitation? A wedding invitation? Where do we draw the line here?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/21 02:32 PM
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Very true about the plan dates too! They love to also scream about how folding laundry together is a “date,” and how they’re low maintenance and not after his wallet.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/21 02:28 PM
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This is what they always do, whether they want to be friends or keep you as a backup option! They ignore you until you try to end things, and then pitch a fit. I can’t tell you how many guys have slow faded me, only to be offended when I suggest moving on!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/21 02:27 PM
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Omg yes! Once an ex and I broke up (he dumped me), and he was adamant we stay friends. When I called him to talk to him as a friend, he was annoyed, and said, “I didn’t really mean that. I don’t want to hear about your problems. Don’t take this the wrong way.” Ummm…offense taken! Block and delete, dude.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/09/21 05:43 AM
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I’m shocked that she said buy me gifts.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/09/21 06:49 PM
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Yes!!! It’s so performative, and not something anyone would want. When I was in my naive days, and a guy wanted to cum on my body somewhere, I just assumed it was some sort of timeless thing that men had been doing forever. I also thought maybe he was trying to be responsible, and prevent pregnancy. I didn’t get it, but I didn’t realize it was from porn. Once I found out it was a porn thing, it made me sick! I guess when you have made hundreds of porn videos, and need some new visual material fo…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/09/21 06:41 PM
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Exactly! I was waiting for the punchline.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/09/21 06:34 PM
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Exactly! My HVM cousin married a doctor, and she makes way more than him. Still, he was pleased to pay for everything while they were in the courtship phase, and wouldn’t have had it any other way! I wonder how many LVM assholes his wife encountered who expected her to be their sugar mama.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/21 01:38 PM
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LOL thanks for the laugh! That is SO true!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/21 01:32 PM
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It would definitely be, “if you were more attractive, he’d want to do it with you.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/21 01:22 PM
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Some pickme just told him that. LOL!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/21 01:21 PM
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OMG are you kidding?! They balk at paying for a dinner date, but expect you to buy them dinner and bring it to their home before they even know you? WOW. The bar is below the floor!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/09/21 01:09 PM
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This was what I came here to say! She is doing way more!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/21 10:34 PM
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“Sure! My hourly cleaning and laundry rate is $50.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/21 04:24 PM
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I know a woman who is the ultimate pickme who did this! She got divorced, and then immediately met a guy and started making him into her ex husband. He wasn’t into anything bad that I know of, but she completely changed his appearance, job, hobbies, etc. All the while, she was posting endlessly on social media about how she was still grieving her divorce. I never understood why either of them wanted to be in the relationship! I don’t understand why it is soooo hard for pickme’s to be single. No …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/09/21 10:50 AM
10

Definitely! This is a “my $60K income isn’t going far, paying for two houses, alimony, and three kids phenomenon.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/09/21 09:13 PM
82

Exactly! Also, it is soooo callous and mean spirited. They love to complain about us getting a free dinner, but women don’t go around saying, “I just went to this dinner and a guy paid for it. After that, I walked around on a euphoric high for days! The chicken Alfredo wasn’t even that good, but I was soooo happy. Then it occurred to me. If this guy was willing to take me to Olive Garden, then maybe another, hotter one would be, too!!!” They are literally such tools. They sleep with us for an eg…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/09/21 05:48 PM
72

I feel like for a lot of these losers, marrying a childless woman who is successful is the way to flaunt to their ex that they married “up.” A lot of their exes were homemakers (which was necessary since these dudes are man children, incapable of doing any work at home), and now these dudes see them as losers, and resent paying alimony. They want to show up at their “leech” ex’s house in a Maserati with their wealthy, successful young girlfriend. It’s the ultimate F you to their “frumpy,” “old,”…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/09/21 10:41 AM
28

This was my first thought! LOL!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/21 02:34 PM
74

This is so disgusting! As someone who loves cooking, and likes controlling what I eat, and has no issue doing 100% of the cooking in the relationship (although obviously I expect him to be doing something of equal value, not just leaving everything to me), this disgusts me! No woman should be expected to do the cooking, unless she wants to, and that‘s a specific agreement they have. I’m suuuure this meme is talking about the dudes who expect you to cook, whether you want to or not, and do everyt…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/21 01:56 PM
110

This is actually very true. I have a friend who is conventionally stunning; one of the most beautiful women I have ever met. Meanwhile, I am average. Anyway, my friend always has ten thousand men swarming all over her, but they are all sleazy, awful guys. When we go out in public, she has to beat them off with a stick, while no one really looks in my direction at all. It doesn’t even make me feel bad, though, because they are the absolute picture of a LVM. Meanwhile, despite their faults, all my…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/21 02:33 AM
18

The church I grew up in was just torn apart by a narcissist pastor, who was only there for 3 years. The church has been active and thriving since 1909, and now is in ruins. They have maybe 1/10 of the members we had three years ago. Seriously, that is how destructive a narcissist is. It’s easy to ruin one person’s life, if they can tear a whole church apart! I sympathize with you so much. I dated a narcissist a decade ago, and I still struggle with the impact sometimes. I also had a raging narci…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/09/21 02:24 PM
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This is soooo well said!!! Like you said, maybe the very lowest quality women out there do this. In that case, I’d give them the same advice I’d give a broke man: focus on getting to a better situation before dating! But I would still think there are very few women broke enough to use guys for a meal. There maaaaay be narcissists out there, in very small numbers, who just love to brag about how much they can get out of people in general. It should be super obvious that they are horrible people, …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/21 06:01 PM
118

This! Men act like we’re crazy for not wanting to go back to work six weeks after the baby! I also hate this push for Mom and Dad to have equal maternity / paternity leave. While I think most men’s leave is too short, they absolutely do not need equal time, because they aren’t recovering from pregnancy and childbirth! I’m a teacher, and my ex works in banking. I was so pissed when I found out that if we had a baby, I would get six weeks off, while he got three months! I’d also have to use my sic…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/09/21 06:51 PM
11

He probably is not taking this new woman seriously, and he probably doesn’t treat her that great, either. I used to accept dates from guys in their thirties at that age, because oLdEr MeN aRe LoOkInG fOr SoMeThInG sErIoUs, and they never were. I thought I was following the advice, going out with guys who were ready to settle down while I still had time on my side, but I was always just an exciting adventure for them. They never had any good intentions with me, no matter how hot they thought I wa…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/09/21 10:51 AM
10

Yes to all of this!!! My ex was like that. He would never have considered a woman anywhere near his size. He was also extremely insecure, and even said at the end of our first date, “so, you probably just like me as a friend, right? All the girls I like think I’m soooo nice, but just as a friend.” Of course pickme me went, “nooooo! I like bigger guys!” Ugh. He also felt soooo superior to me because he was nerdy, and liked stuff like lord of the rings and video games. I’m more of a basic girly gi…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/21 11:58 PM
13

This! I almost slept with a guy who had a wife. We met at a conference (when I was 22 and he was probably 40), and fooled around a little bit. Even at that age, and though he was nice looking, I just felt like we were strangers, and couldn’t go through with it. A few years later, I saw him at the same conference. He was friendly, but didn’t suggest doing anything. My pickme self wondered if I was just less attractive. I went on Facebook and found him…and then did some digging and realized that w…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/21 06:35 PM
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I don’t see this as true at all. Where did they get their “data?” Almost every woman I know has been conned into a hookup / FWB situation, and they have ALWAYS ended in a broken heart, not marriage. If 1/3 of them were successful, wouldn’t we all know multiple people who had this work out for them?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/21 02:34 PM
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The last one is soooo true. I have noticed a lot of ugly guys posting pics with really hot female family members. It’s like, “I am looking for a trophy wife, which I feel entitled to because I grew up around hot women, and won’t settle for less. Sure, I’m the ugly one in the family, but if you’re hot enough, you can join my family of smoking hot models!” It’s almost like he is setting the expectation that you have to look as good as them, though he is ugly himself. I was in a LTR with an asshole…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/09/21 02:32 PM
20

I saw this on Facebook yesterday. Everyone in the comments was saying, “men aren’t going to college because they’re going into the trades!” …okay? But the problem is, they’re not! They’re just doing nothing. If the men were just being financially responsible and going into the trades to avoid debt, and then going on to live exemplary, hardworking lives, there would be no need for this article, right? The point is, they aren’t going into the trades. They are sitting in mommy’s basement, playing v…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/09/21 09:49 PM
12

These guys are such huge turnoffs! I don’t understand it either. I feel so lucky that my dad set such a good example for what a guy should be like. Not only did he make good money, but he is super generous with his money, as well. I also have a good male friend who is a teacher, but is generous with his money, and works multiple jobs so his wife can work part time. Not being generous is just suuuuuch a huge turnoff for me! It’s so different from how I grew up that I’d just never feel comfortable…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/09/21 04:41 PM
14

Wow. This really puts gender differences into perspective. A woman would never do that, because saving a little bit of money is not worth the hassle of living with a man! At most, I enjoyed saving money when I lived with my ex, but I also did 100% of the chores. I also intended to stay with him, not just use him (and I even paid him rent, but did save a lot better having my own place). I just cannot see a woman moving into a man’s place and mooching off him, just to save enough money for a vehic…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/21 02:21 PM
18

I needed to hear this. I have gotten into the trap, with pandemic isolation, of thinking I am just too traumatized by my twenties, and am damaged goods. I had a relationship with a narcissist, followed by being used by a string of LVM. I did eventually meet a good guy, though it didn’t work out. I’m 33 and feel as if my life is beginning, and there are great things on the horizon. In my darkest times, though, I feel like my bad relationships and traumatic experiences have ruined me past the poin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/09/21 12:17 AM
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This! I laugh sooooo hard when jaded LVM on other subreddits talk about how women are using men for free food. Seriously? If these are my two options: Option A: come home from work. Relax. Either make dinner or order takeout. Have downtime where I don’t have to talk to anyone. Have time to do things I want to do, like gym, TV, or socializing with people who deeply matter to me. Shower. Wind down. Get to bed early and feel good the next day. Option B: rush home from work. Shower quickly. Spend 30…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/21 06:46 PM
248

This really gets me! “I hate makeup and fake hair. What I really like is a naturally beautiful woman!” This always feels so disingenuous to me, because it’s like they think they deserve massive praise for standing up for underdogs, when really they are “standing up” for the very hottest women. It’s like to them, the only women who even exist in their world, or deserve to be treated like people, are the top 10% natural beauties, and then these men act like they deserve brownie points for acceptin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/09/21 04:14 AM
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LOL imagine being this angry because someone just wants to avoid being with the wrong person. We’re not trying to hurt or upset him in any way…we’re just trying to avoid being in a bad relationship! Imagine being this upset that a woman doesn’t want to be abused.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/09/21 10:35 AM
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🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/09/21 02:50 PM
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Worse than a roommate! I’ve never had a roommate who was soooo tit for tat, either. Even if vacuuming is my chore, most roommates will vacuum anyway if they make a mess. Most will bring me something nice when I am sick, or we will treat each other occasionally when we go out. I guess if you had a roommate who was not a friend, maybe it would be like this poor girl’s marriage.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/08/21 10:45 AM
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Exactly!!! I’ve never understood why the woman has to be the woman and the man these days! I’ve found that super religious men are the worst. They believe in biblical roles, but, “oh! In today’s world, we can’t survive on one salary.” Guess you’re not doing biblical roles, then? I live in the south, and see this so much!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/08/21 10:41 AM
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This was my narcissistic boss! He goes on and on about how he is the best person on earth because he reads black literature and is a SJW, yet patronizes POC and is outwardly sexist.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/08/21 10:33 AM
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It’s character and integrity! There are men out there who fall for horrible women, yet they stay. Then there are men who marry a beautiful, kindhearted, smart woman, a 10/10, and they cheat.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/08/21 12:55 AM
83

Same! Sounded like my people!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/08/21 08:58 PM
13

Yes!!! I was arguing with an ignorant person on Facebook (not about FDS), and then realized he was like 17. Here on Reddit, you can’t tell that, so his opinion would be given equal weight.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/08/21 07:30 PM
8

Yes!!! This is what’s so stupid about 50/50. Instead of arguing with guys about why they should pay, i just say, “plenty of guys are willing to do it. Why should I choose one who does not?”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/21 02:01 PM
8

I have felt this way since my teens, and I never found a community of likeminded people until FDS! I always wondered why I was alone in thinking being the husband and wife is a ridiculous expectation on women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/08/21 10:54 PM
24

Yes!!!! I went to a college for undergrad that was religious and conservative, and then a super liberal college for grad school. Everyone assumes the liberal school would yield better experiences with men, but that is definitely not true. The men at both schools sucked equally bad, and were both highly misogynistic! One group expected you to be a virgin, while the other threw a fit about how you weren’t empowered if you didn’t sleep with them on the first date.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/21 02:16 AM
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I hate how this never gets flipped around on guys. You never hear, “if he doesn’t want you while you’re fat, he doesn’t deserve you when you’re skinny!” Guys are happy to exclaim that they’re bIoLoGiCaLlY not attracted to fat people, and they’re vIsUaL! Okay, whatever. I’m a little overweight myself, and I realize there are men out there who will be attracted to me at my goal weight, but not my current weight. I realize that is life, and it doesn’t offend me in the slightest. I don’t go around h…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/08/21 02:09 AM
5

Exactly!!! Women have to deal with men using them, sometimes for months or years, for sex. The rejection after that is soooo much worse than a polite, “no, thanks,” from some girl he doesn’t even know!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/08/21 09:07 PM
164

Yes!!! Back in my pickme days, I had a guy that had this exact conversation with me every day: Him: hey. Me: hey. Him: how r u. Me: good. How are you? Him: gud. Fast forward to night: Him: good night. Me: good night. In my pickme days, I never wanted to burn bridges, because I figured that one day, he would suddenly romance me and sweep me off my feet! But it annoyed me like hell to get these messages every day, and it made me lose what little attraction I did have. Finally I looked at our text …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/08/21 02:51 PM
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Yes!!! And while you will occasionally see a woman who resents other women for looking like “Barbie dolls” or “needing to eat a sandwich,” at least in my case, I have seen this behavior most in high school and college. Nobody I know in my thirties thinks like that, even really unattractive people! Now it’s more like, “she looks that good? Good for her! Flaunt it, sis!” Also…the unattractive college girl who is mad at the Barbie doll should be mad at a man, most of the time. She’s usually upset b…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/08/21 04:59 PM
15

I couldn’t agree more! I hate this line of thinking that you have to be basically clones of the exact same person to be in each others’ league. For instance, a kindergarten teacher might be a great match for a CEO who has to work long hours, and prefers a strong woman with the kids during those hours. In exchange, he financially takes care of her, and does his part with the kids and house when he is there. I think that usually works better than two kindergarten teachers, who both love on their k…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/21 08:08 PM
2

🙌🏻
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/21 08:03 PM
12

Exactly! One of my best male friends is not very attractive, and not in a high earning field. However, he treats his wife like gold, is literally kind and respectful of everyone, is great with his money, is a great father, lives by strong values, and is an extremely talented musician who is passionate about what he does. He is not personally my type, but one of the highest value men I know. HVM doesn’t always mean the hot doctor!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/07/21 07:52 PM
20

This! Plus, at the end of a long day, I don’t really need anyone policing my activities. Unless it was a special “date night” activity…aka he took me out to a nice dinner, and we were planning to specifically watch this show when we got home, I don’t think watching TV is that important. I constantly watch shows i like while on my phone too, and still pay decent attention. If it’s a special “date night” kind of thing that they’re both enthusiastic about, I see his point. If she’s just worked an e…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/21 02:37 PM
12

Yes!!! They always get mad at women for going for “Chad,” but why shouldn’t the woman choose the best all-around guy she can? I don’t see guys saying, “wow, Ashley’s hot, and interested in a date with me, but I’m going to give Susie a chance, because she’s below my league, and I bet it would just make her day if I showed her some interest!” That absolutely never happens, so why do they expect women to do it? Why be mad at women for taking their best option? And if “Chad” is truly hoarding all th…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/07/21 02:26 PM
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Also, once they actually find a decent-looking woman who will be with them, it goes from, “how did I get you?! You’re a goddess, and I will spend every day of my life thanking god for you!” to “ehhhh, I got you. Now let’s see how much better I can do!” reeeeeeally fast.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/07/21 02:44 PM
15

Yep. Had a LVM break up with me because he was “bored sexually” (after we’d been together three months, if that! And the relationship was long distance). Looking back on it, he had to be porn sick. We’d probably only had sex a handful of times, with minimal effort on his part. I’m not sure exactly what porn star moves he was expecting from me, but whatever. So then years later, after I was in another relationship, suddenly he wants to give it another try. I told him I just got out of a relations…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/07/21 01:58 PM
12

Yes!!! Or “you’re so touchy and sensitive lately, I can’t say anything around you!”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/06/21 03:05 PM
48

I dated a narcissist when I was in college. He was very cold, and withheld any kind of compliments (but expected me to compliment him constantly!). Once I asked if he even thought I was pretty, and he said, “well, objectively, there are a lot of prettier women out there than you! Like models, movie stars, etc.” I was dumbfounded! He was one of those people who thought he was a saint because he was aLwAyS hOnEsT. But he could still be honest and say he found me pretty, with the unspoken knowledge…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/06/21 02:54 PM
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Exactly! Woman: “preferably 2-5 years older than me.” (Basically the same age, but maybe a little older so there is a possibility he is somewhat mature…nor is this a dealbreaker.) Man: “omg her standards are unreasonable!!! I’m in my 40’s and want to date a 25-year-old!!!” (He called her standards too high, yet wants to date someone 20 years younger?!) How can they not see the irony? Maybe they should be telling the 40’s men to lower their standards instead, because no 25-year-old is going to wa…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/06/21 02:41 PM
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Exactly! Most women meet everything on this list easily. Even if the women aren’t naturally “decent looking,” they can (and usually do) become decent looking by dressing well, grooming, choosing flattering hair and makeup, etc. Yet, this still isn’t enough for most men! However, most women will happily date a guy who is not blessed genetically, but makes a serious effort on his appearance, because that is so rare in a world where most would rather be unkempt and live in dirty t-shirts. So theore…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/06/21 02:38 PM
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Also, female gold diggers actually want to commit to the man, and are usually willing to have his children (sometimes they will want a tummy tuck after!). Male gold diggers are often willing to enjoy your assets without much interest in any kind of commitment. They want you paying all the bills while still keeping one eye open for someone “better.”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/05/21 06:37 PM
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This! I’ve been on all kinds of dates, although only one coffee date, because I tried it once years ago and decided right away it was pointless. I’d say the vast majority of them have been at decent, but chain type restaurants...Olive garden, Mexican, etc. However, the three guys who ended up becoming real relationships took me to NICE, high end places, and seemed nervous about trying to impress me. Hell, even my college boyfriend, who was a man child narcissist, took me to an elegant restaurant…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/05/21 12:35 AM
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This! I used to go for ugly dudes in my twenties, thinking they would appreciate me. Ugly dudes have so much anger, and they perceive the “chads” to be using and abusing women constantly. They want the same for themselves. However, most of the “chads” are either A) nice, or B) assholes who are just being assholes because they can, not because of anger towards women. When hot guys play you, it’s usually with a blase attitude. They’re ignorant and entitled often, but they don’t really wish you har…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/05/21 12:26 PM
102

Right?! I walk fast because I want to finish my errands and go home. I guess I should start walking slower, thus sacrificing my free time, so I can have inane conversations with catcalling jerks.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/05/21 12:16 PM
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Why does everyone assume he has a girlfriend already? I agree it would be disrespectful to his current girlfriend to run off and play savior, but maybe he is single. That’s how my ex is. He is a HVM, but we broke up mainly because he needed to work on himself. He isn’t planning on dating until he is the person he wants to be. He also still does very nice things for me. Maybe one day we will be together in the future, idk, or maybe I will meet someone else one day, but he is the rare guy who can …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/05/21 12:13 PM
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