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| 1 | Most men that aren't having sex are otherwise fairly normal dudes, not women hating misogynists like reddit and society would lead you to believeGo check the definition - might find your name next to the term as an example ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 07:03 PM |
| 1 | How important are developmental/maturity stages in dating?This is a huge point. There is a difference in people that are choosing to be virgins vs those that desperately want sex but can't get it. I think many guys who have a low count but have a social life, attend good schools, respected by others, have decent family and are content are the best kind of guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | How important are developmental/maturity stages in dating?Strangely the only people I know that settle down early are religious or had babies accidently. Not sure if that is your definition of a good woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 10:10 AM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Build your perfect partner with the following attributes and limited points.Where are morals and values? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 08:04 AM |
| 2 | Being attracted to average-looking people is settling/having low standardsI think we all have different priorities and preferences. Just because I have the money to pay for something doesn’t mean I can afford that item or that it aligns with my preferences/priorities. For example, eating 5 star dinners vs adding that money towards early retirement and eating at home. Potentially I’m more of introvert and would rather eat at home - maybe I’m not a foodie etc. I think you have to remember everyone is going to become old and comprised over time so it’s smart to prioritis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 08:14 AM |
| 1 | What do women think of guys who grow up in constant adversity and turmoil?I think that's a very subjective question. Is this guy that grew up with turmoil emotionally healthy, been to therapy and still remains capable of love, trust, support etc. If so then I guess it could potentially be attractive to some women, but I'd wager it could result in people being screwed up and toxic. Which could be attractive to some women but likely other toxic people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 01:35 AM |
| 2 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?I have been in a relationship with someone that struggled with ED... was very empathetic towards him and supported him getting help. I wouldn't have walked away over that issue until extensive attempts were made to resolve it. I even suggested he sleep with someone else.... so I would consider myself capable of being compassionate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 11:28 AM |
| 1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?I'm a woman with a very HL and have faced the issue in relationships. I gave my partner a very decent amount of time and tried multiple things before even considering walking away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 11:26 AM |
| 1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?I think we agree. Both parties should make strong efforts to resolve the issue and not run away at the first sign of trouble. In some instances, when this issue can't be resolved it may be necessary to walk away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 11:23 AM |
| 1 | If women generally want the best guys, they should be more willing to accept them having multiple wivesMost of these men don't want their wives to be open... many of these guys don't discuss upfront their needs upfront and end up in marriages being destroyed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 02:31 AM |
| 0 | girls nights outs?But most cheaters woman or men have friends like that... it's not this profound discovery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Do you think lifestyle differences are overlooked as a deal-breaker within relationships?It's such a vital aspect of a relationship to determine that kind of lifestyle that works for you and be firm about it. I think personality is linked to this as well. Like people that tend to love going out and partying are usually extroverted. I also think this relates to saving money vs people that enjoy extravagant lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 12:40 AM |
| 1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?I am a super HL person. My view is you won't die without sex... Yeah if your dick was chopped off which is permanent but what about ED, if you were having troubles orgasming, or depression or weight gain or stress, awful job or an illness things that are temporary in nature potentially. People throw shit away so easily in my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 12:24 AM |
| 1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?I agree that sexual compatibility and intimacy is important. My personal opinion is that I would want to thoroughly investigate why the person's sex drive has diminished and understand what's happening. If they refuse that and it's been year okay. But I think you can't apply a blanket rule. I see many people on here that just expect sex even if they are being shitty to their partners, but not effort into the relationship or their partners might be unwell. Many guys would be offended if you impli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 12:11 AM |
| 1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?I said that I'm not a sex machine, never said that you said it. I think the part you and many men are missing is the why behind it. If someone is unwell, pregnant or just given birth or is struggling in the home or goes through an physical or mental illness (post partum depression) there needs to be recognition and understanding the why - the way people men here speak is so uncaring and devoid of compassion. Makes me want to stay away from most guys with a ten foot pole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 12:00 AM |
| 1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?You do realise in many cases the reasons why people, men and women, stop having sex differs. Should you just leave your husband if he has ED? Many women after having children have many changes physically or their partners stop being romantic and helping them so they lose attraction. This sub helped me lose attraction to men and stop dating them so don't worry. :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 11:56 PM |
| 1 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?... you aren't saying anything I don't know but there is no point measuring which is worse it adds nothing to the conversation and makes me sympathise with men less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 11:51 PM |
| 3 | Womens body countAll I’m saying is this idea of being virtuous = amazing partner is utter BS based on life experiences. It’s their relationship not mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?I think it’s important to remind my partner that I’m not a sex machine or object here for their pleasure. If I’m tired, stressed, not being supported etc than I 100% am not feeling it especially if the guy expects me to have his kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 12:45 PM |
| 0 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?Or stay single and you buy an escort and/or find people that are into that…. I think some guys are clueless and to immature for marriage. You are so gross. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 12:44 PM |
| -1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?Yes it is. That’s not how it works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Women are not inherently more shallow then men that idea is idioticMy point is both genders and every once can be shallow to a degree. Look at the world we live in. Most guys aren’t looking for the fat girl with a kind heart … and that’s sadly life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:14 AM |
| 1 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?I’m not going to engage in that as their are multiple conclusions and ways to measure what is worse. I don’t think an objective answer exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Women are not inherently more shallow then men that idea is idioticLol do you know billions of women live on this planet… all with their own opinions and unique preferences. It’s quite interesting huh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?I guess it’s a grass is greener situation. I have no issue getting men but finding someone I’m compatible with and can tolerate is hard. I also hate socialising and having to leave my house which makes pursuing careers or relationships of any kind hard not to mention adhd. I don’t know if I’ll earn $200k by your age but at least you can hopefully retire early or scale back which is my goal tbh. I don’t know what to live for as I’m not into kids, family, career, hobbies or partners like most peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?I know extremely extroverted people who are never alone. Also going out Friday and Sunday. Going for dates. Signing up for new hobbies like Marshall arts, tennis, yoga, art classes, wine making etc. Go to charitable events or are part of church communities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?Fair, when I say being more introverted you likely aren’t involved in tons of activities and going out so you probably meet less people that super extroverted people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.I disagree. I prefer being alone 95% of the time tbh. I don’t enjoy socialising and while I wish I did I can’t change who I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating.Women make way more effort to socialise even on the spectrum when learning social cues, norms and values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?Then you are right it’s probably the weight tbh and being more introverted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?I can go to applebees - or the equivalent alone so not sure why you are top 5% tbh. Other than income which you aren’t sharing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:42 AM |
| 6 | Study: female sexlessness is also rising:Yes, but also its becoming more complex to find a compatible partner as you become older, more financially secure, self aware and advance in your career. Back in the day you met someone early on and tried to build a life together now you are building it apart then trying to put people together afterwards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:41 AM |
| 2 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?I’m the same tbh. Except I’m a woman with Autism/ADHD and it’s awful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?I mean you earn a decent income but money in and of it’s self isn’t attractive unless you are splurging on nice dinners. Having those traits can help a lot in terms of getting women. I know guys like that and they got laid despite not fitting a typical box. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?Good luck I really wish the best for in finding someone who makes you happy. I hope you find a diagnosis and help if possible otherwise enjoy your life as much as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:33 AM |
| 2 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?Good luck! You sound a bit like my ex in they he’s always moving or doing something different. Except he wants kids weirdly one day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:31 AM |
| 2 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?Men are shallow too it’s human nature sadly. Wish you the best finding someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:21 AM |
| 2 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?I think we all are a little bit. I swipe no to legit every guy on tinder and use it to just to see who is on their. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?Are you compassionate, kind, funny, supportive, and supportive? Otherwise as you said besides looks on paper you have many good qualities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?I don’t think you simplify what a feminist is in your comment. For me that wouldn’t be enough as I like getting paid for my labour via a contract. I also despite not liking my job worked hard getting an education, promotions and networking so I wouldn’t want to leave that behind. I also like freely spending my own money and investing it as I like rather than being dependent on someone. Being a stay at home mum is like my worst nightmare as I hate domestic work and would be bad at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?How do you define not poor? Are you empathetic or kind or supportive or respectful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?What’s your age? Do you have children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?You sound great minus the kids part and social drinker to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:59 AM |
| 1 | Men - what makes you a catch and why should a woman give you a chance?What’s your major and two minors? Also what are your hobbies? Do you live in a big city? Legit sound like an amazing catch lol. Although I’d assume the childfree part makes things hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:57 AM |
| 3 | Is it reasonable for a man with an average physique to want a thin/non-fat female partner?I mean it’s reasonable but not guaranteed. I know quite overweight woman in committed relationships with guys that have 6 packs. I personally think the older you get the more people judge you overall. Slightly overweight guy with a great job, funny, charismatic, smart and socially intelligent may beat an average slimmer guy with not much going for him. Compatibility is huge though for long term relationship success in many areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Do you think men with autism are doomed in the current dating world?Yep. This is very true due to special interests etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Do you think men with autism are doomed in the current dating world?I don’t think stats on autistic women are accurate as so many are able to mask or mimic much better than men. You have to go out of the way as a woman to be diagnosed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:25 AM |
| 0 | Women, what exatly do you feel when you see a naked man?Gross, disgusted, afraid 99.9% of the time unless it’s an actor on tv or a guy I’m actually into in a safe context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:21 AM |
| 1 | In your experience, what are the signs that someone is unhappy in their relatioship?For a random thought it’s super accurate as I think we say in humour things we can’t easily say to someone upfront! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:19 AM |
| 1 | In your experience, what are the signs that someone is unhappy in their relatioship?No 100% serious. It made me reflect on a previous relationship that didn’t work and a red flag I’ll be considering going forward. So thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:15 AM |
| 1 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?She got the family home, a decent amount the investments and kept all her possessions. So she could always sell things but she and her kids are very used to the finer things. It’s hard to go from $2k shoes, $5k bags, nice dinners, expensive well made clothes, certain social standing, nice car $100k, etc. I think she now manages a fashion shop or is trying to start her own business. She’ll be fine but it’s hard recovering from something like this. Yes, those stories are heartbreaking and so commo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:13 AM |
| 1 | In your experience, what are the signs that someone is unhappy in their relatioship?That’s a fantastic red flag! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:00 AM |
| 1 | In your experience, what are the signs that someone is unhappy in their relatioship?This is why I sadly don’t believe the good girl trope. Some of the most awful people I’ve met professionally and personally ALL had partners. Both women and men. Cheaters, liars, manipulators, flirts, criminals etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:59 AM |
| 1 | What hobbies in the opposite gender are attractive?If you are a man yoga, netball | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:56 AM |
| 2 | Women are not inherently more shallow then men that idea is idioticMen are more shallow but they are shocked that women are too. It surprises them that women can act just as bad and selfishly as men do when allowed to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:54 AM |
| 2 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?She’s been out of work for around 25 years and she got some assets so she’s okay financially but legal fees consumed a lot and she had to figure out the finances, bills and retirement from scratch. She’d become accustomed to a much much higher standard of living than she’ll be able to maintain going forward. She hasn’t been able to get anything besides low paid secretary type work earning less than her children in their early twenties. I think her daughters have learnt from her and the older one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:51 AM |
| 2 | The RP/Manosphere is making the Beta Bucks an endangered species and many women are going to be screwed.I think they do and just stay single. I think more men are redpill but typically undesirable men in some key way. Others are really emotionally damaged or misogynistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:38 AM |
| 2 | Women aren't so much put off by seeing men cry, they just don't like what comes nextI still don’t fully buy this men don’t cry thing as Jordan Peterson cries and yet so many men respect him. I think other factors are at play in these cases although we need more info. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:33 AM |
| -1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?She didn’t sign a contract which says she needs to sleep with her partner and it’s unclear why she isn’t into it - I know people can experience pain, feel unsexy and many cheaters use these kinds of excuses to justify their behaviour. All I’m saying is if sex is that huge of a priority than marriage probably isn’t the best avenue for you. It constraints your needs to one person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:29 AM |
| -2 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?Great that you have no children but the assumption is that you do - that’s what’s selfish about the statement. When I say ruin your families financial stability I mean via divorce and having to pay alimony/child support. If you don’t want children and have the means it’s totally fine. You never signed an agreement to sleep with her x amount of times. If you’d made that clear upfront and have tried extensively but otherwise your only commitment was monogamy tbh. Even than people today engage in s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:25 AM |
| 3 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Everyone needs purpose.. you literally are defying gender roles something feminism has helped shift the narrative around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:15 AM |
| 1 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?I’m glad it works for you and I think it can totally work. I don’t think your situate negates the risks if things were not to work out. All the best! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:14 AM |
| 2 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Nope. Every woman I know who was raised by SAHM refuses to do the same. I would even look at Jordan Peterson’s daughter - who is now very career focused. I think most people like having their own money and independence. Many women I know who stay home experienced having money held over them or constantly being made to feel bad for spending or their wants or not feeling equal to their spouse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:11 AM |
| 3 | How many today would be down for a stay home dad?Yep, I know a very wealthy family where the husband and wife met in finance/accounting firms. Mum was higher and more competitive but she stayed home to have kids and despite her being in an alright position it’s devastating. While the father got to the top position in a well known company and the family had a extremely privileged life - after the kids grew up the dad cheated and left with a younger woman. Despite the SAHM being smart, skinny and stunning - yet now she has to start from scratch … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:07 AM |
| -1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?Blaming women for partners leaving and cheating in many cases is ridiculous. Of course a younger secretary with no kids, no other responsibilities and with the chance to date her boss is having more sex… that is very shallow and short term thinking. Imagine using your dick to guide decisions. If you think like this don’t get married or have kids. That’s a risk that comes with the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:01 AM |
| -2 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?So sex would come before your children’s well-being, your families financial stability and your commitment to your partner. You probably shouldn’t get married or have kids because your mentality is quite selfish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:59 AM |
| 1 | “If having regular sex in our relationship is not important to you, then it is not a big deal if I find it somewhere else. It’s either important, or it’s not.” Thoughts?I think women do have high libido’s but are easily turned off, may marry men they aren’t attracted too and carry way more labour / physiological problems than men. I also think men seek out women with lower counts and act surprised these kinds of women are fine not having sex. I have seen sex reduces when women don’t feel valued, are resentful of their partner, don’t feel like their contributes are being seen or are unhappy. Other factors include pain, periods, or bad sex. I have a high sex driv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:55 AM |
| 7 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?It also limits future career and life options so you’ve got to factor that in as if you fail it may be hard to move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:49 AM |
| 4 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?Where are those women having sex with men they aren’t attracted to for free? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:45 AM |
| 27 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?Men really are particularly when you look at the biggest demographic buying sex, consuming sexual content and trying to have sex is men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Womens body countSorry, but you are discussing extremes however I’m not sure you could tell if someone had 20 vs 35 easily or even 5 vs 10. It’s not a precise science. At the extremes I think it would be easier to determine or guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:23 AM |
| 5 | Womens body countYea, but many of those same men want to have casual sex but don’t want women to have a past… the math at adding up😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:16 AM |
| 8 | Womens body countEveryone I know in a relationship has a higher count that their bfs… I don’t think in real life it’s as big of an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:11 AM |
| 13 | Womens body countYep, my friends with the highest counts have committed long term bfs. Despite one being a cheater and aggressive - they all party frequently, are slim and extroverted. I love how redpill men pretend being a low n count woman or virtuous guarantees an amazing life for women. I think people should do what they want and live according to your own values not to get any specific outcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Why this misconception that less attractive men will treat women better?Agreed. It’s a fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever changed your mind on a man you initially weren’t attracted to?Yep, proximity, personality, connection/chemistry and creativity. He got more attractive over time and given we worked together in a shitty job where I was unhappy it was nice having that support. I initially said no to him but he proved me wrong - he had lots of great qualities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | The bar for men is low. Men who have zero success with women are doing something really wrongOnline dating doesn’t equal real life and is a skewed sample size given the kind of people in such an app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Jealousy drives much of the resentment displayed hereI don’t personally understand this notion about competing for desirable men… lol what guy is this. I’ve known a few guys that I think are fantastic partners but I’m not compatible with them remotely and many of these “high value men” that earn heaps of money are not worth risking STI’s or their lifestyle (women constantly hitting on your partner and the public life). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Ladies - Would you 2nd guess your boyfriend/husband if other women didn't find him attractive?No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is marriage still the dream?Retirement is the dream 100%. I can take or leave marriage tbh. So many perks and peace to being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:16 PM |
| 7 | Most men ignore the women they claim to wantExactly! 9/10 when I hear a guy complain and ask a few follow up questions it’s evident why they have problems dating tbh. Especially “redpill” guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:11 PM |
| 0 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexI don’t think you need a high IQ to discover that. Plenty of low IQ people have no issue having sex and multiplying . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 03:56 PM |
| 0 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexIf you are relatively attractive and extroverted why would you need a strategy? Not sure that attractiveness correlates to IQ? You only need a strategy if you struggle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 01:53 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Your paragraphs are quite confusing. I mean my family certainly isn’t that’s completely laughable if you know anything about history. Many people become religious through colonisation … I digress. Do you have research that arranged marriages are more successful? I think people stay in marriages longer, even awful ones, in many of those cultures and religious backgrounds because of strong social pressure. If you are scared of your money being taken away as a man or woman don’t get married. Life r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 10:51 AM |
| 0 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexIQ is useful for marriage not sex in my view. If you have a high IQ and can secure a well paid career as a man it improves marriage opportunities. I don’t see how a high IQ for men would help with sex or hookups necessarily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 10:40 AM |
| 1 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexYes, IQ in and of itself doesn’t make someone attractive. It’s combined with decent social skills, networks, access to the other gender, work ethic, attractiveness, being in shape and extroversion which would help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexStatistically that is going to be rare especially as women, even those with high IQ’s, disproportionately are in healthcare, law, finance etc. Much fewer women in maths, and STEM. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 10:35 AM |
| 1 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexBut I’m not sure IQ is wholly the casual variable as you’d have to consider introversion, male dominated field and social skills as other key points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 10:32 AM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Okay misrepresent my point lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 10:22 AM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.So they struggled to handle pain regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 10:09 AM |
| 0 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Yep, but my point is most of them couldn’t handle those things. Every man should have to experience the pain women can feel to have kids, periods or pregnancy: https://youtu.be/HkAO-iASES8 Especially those that impregnate a woman as it’s such a huge ordeal and few would willing chose it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.What I mean is the target demographic for PUA is men and for relationship experts is women typically. Rarely do women seek help to get laid or men seek help for finding a relationship. Not that all women or men ever use these services. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 09:48 AM |
| 6 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexYes, this is very possible. Not to mention the fields OP mentioned are extremely male dominated from college to the professional world which likely limits access to women. Men in those fields aren’t seen in the same light as banking / law / consulting / medicine as professions which are more balanced gender wise, people in those fields are likely more extroverted and there is more social status associated with them. I’d also so personality aspects like introversion and intellectual curiosity are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexThe data seems very mixed on this subject and there are a number of factors / variables which need to be considered/controlled for such as religion, gender, socioeconomic background, political affiliations, ethnic background, social skills, personality and more (note findings below that differ). You’ve listed fields where people have high IQ’s on average but you haven’t established that their IQ is the casual factor for lack of sex. It could be people in those careers that have high IQ’s are mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexLol his studies don’t necessarily support his conclusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 07:40 AM |
| 3 | Gender Dynamics and the Factors behind the TFR DeclineNot to mention the opportunity cost of having children. If you’ve spent years studying and trying to establish yourself economically it might be either to late to have kids for some, others might not have had time to prioritise dating, others fear leaving their careers and the loss of time invested. I also think the more educated you are the more you only want to have kids if you can give them great lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 07:28 AM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Lol I’m an atheist. But my family is Christian and sex is meant to be between wife and husband only not because of contraception but because it’s an emotionally bonding experience for many people and creates stability for societies. Even women who could not have children are supposed can be married and the bible clearly states that it’s better to be married than engage in sin, such has having sex outside marriage. You can’t just make religion fit your own narratives and Protestant values are cen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 02:33 AM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?The partners married with a wage discrepancy and they complement each other was my point. Both have jobs but given one earns more the other partners chips in more domestically and as the supportive spouse. That’s not true for most Christian denominations - Catholics have issues but most Pentecostal and baptist etc type churches don’t care. Nor do you need their permission to marry as many Christian’s I know don’t go to church as they dislike the institution. No it’s because sex outside marriage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.So you won’t clarify… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:39 PM |
| 1 | The just world fallacy that good looking men never struggle to get their equivalent can easily be disproven by pointing to the countless heartthrob male celebrities who date and marry women older and less attractive than themI think it’s more many hot/famous people can have negative personality traits overlooked easily. It’s why I’ll always judge personality first over looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:22 PM |
| 12 | Some men need to accept the fact that if they want to date, they’ll have to BBHair transplant saved him tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Are heterosexual women who won't date bisexual men bi/homophobic or is it just a preference?Yep, cis-men can have standards like women have standards but no-one is required to meet them unless they want to. If a woman chooses not to meet male standards and is comfortable being single it’s literally not your problem or business quite frankly. In fact, unless someone asked for your opinion it’s really not your business. I was saying that you could argue promoting larger bodies might be bad for peoples health but the beauty point is a non issue. The ones who care stay in shape, others str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:19 PM |
| 1 | If you have gold digging tendencies you deserved to be pumped and dumpedI do feel empathy for them immensely as they usually haven’t done anything to deserve that treatment. Same way if a guy chose a partner that mistreats them I’d feel empathy. It’s when someone is super judgemental I don’t feel bad because you can disagree without being judgemental or a hypocrite. If you chose to act like that then expect people to lie or omit things to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:13 PM |
| -2 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Most men can barely handle pregnancy or periods or waxing and are not “ultra-masculine” guys that are fierce or strong. Women’s spaces are often created for woman’s safety or because they otherwise wouldn’t be represented like in sport. I think many men don’t realise how patronising society is to women. But it doesn’t negate that men have struggles which wasn’t my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.Lol. There’s a reason PUA have remained popular with men and relationship experts popular with women. Also I’m not going to speak for every woman but I wouldn’t say there are no good men rather I’m not interested in most of the men I know. Them being “good” is subjective when the goal is compatibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:07 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Not necessarily. For example if woman has a high powered job and makes more than her partner she’d like a partner that makes dinner, manages the home/domestic labour and provides emotional support. I see this all the time as long as their partner is attractive, shares similar values and can provide for themselves lots of normal everyday women don’t care. People who are Christian are permitted to marry at any age. For many they want to have an intimate relationship and companion in the right way.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Are heterosexual women who won't date bisexual men bi/homophobic or is it just a preference?Well evidently you and many men have the right to not find that person attractive. They still don’t owe you beauty or have to centre beauty around men. For example, Victoria Secret struggled as women became tired of seeing unachievable goals and wanted to see someone like themselves looking good. That’s why you’ve seen a string shift as brands understand what their consumer, when they are women, actually want to see/hear. A more relevant and objective observation in my view pertains to health. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Well you asked me do I think men have it easier in the western world, and I’m asking you for clarification for what you mean? It’s such a broad question. Like how you measure or define easier - what are the parameters? Compared to another historical period or country or to women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sI think it’s great you do it because you enjoy it! I enjoyed it as well but my priorities have shifted and as I value my time, and money more, trying to retire early and study/work full time. I’m very cognisant of the effort I exert to look “put together” but try be strategic as I don’t have a passion for makeup, and while I love fashion it’s more illustrations (sketching or looking at pieces) than actually wearing the pieces. So I only invest in the key things. That’s so interesting and I agree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sSorry I meant straight men! I love gay men and many men do seem to put effort but usually not cis-het men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 06:42 AM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Lol can’t even explain your point without jumping to conclusion… ok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 06:40 AM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Like in the last 5-10 years and they were both in their 40s went they met and married. I think women on their 40s who have their own money aren’t looking for successful men rather guys who complement them. I think ultimately it’s about waiting to find someone you are compatible with and personally wouldn’t force it just to have someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 06:40 AM |
| 2 | Are heterosexual women who won't date bisexual men bi/homophobic or is it just a preference?I don’t think they care if you find them attractive and while they are trying to reshape beauty standards it’s because we no longer have to appeal to what only men find beautiful. Also most men can’t complain as they are also getting fatter and don’t meet the ideal! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.You’d have to describe easier and men? I think you’d need to differentiate issues, topics and demographics to provide a proper answer that’s intersectional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sSorry I forgot to add not in there lol. I don’t have figures but I’ve heard men in porn willing to do gay scenes can be paid way more and I’ve seen men as sugar babies. I’m not sure many gay men say men are picky about looks. Not sure really it’s not something I’m familiar with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Lol provide data and state your case. I think I’ve heard the same points repeated in these spaces before and so I think we disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Great anecdotal evidence, filled with numerous bias’ and useless for any real discourse. I can just as easily say the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Based on what lol? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Yeah, mostly YouTube, reddit forums and others online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Your first two points are confusing, and not sure what you are saying. I like many other men and women vet men. I don’t date currently based on preference and that’s okay. Yes, because men are typically holding in trauma and look for others to take it out on. Also few men are truly victims of anything and many of the ones who are usually take out anger in society, gfs and children. There is a reason school shooters are only ever men and terrorists. It’s far more complex. Firstly people are tryin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.It’s very confusing but be careful in redpill spaces! They can be very toxic and be careful with buying courses / taking people advice but good luck it’s interesting at the least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Reddit and especially red pill misused terms constantly and straw man concepts which are complex into simplistic definitions or conclusions devoid of context. I’m not perfect either but usually in proper debates or academic environments people need to define their terms. So people understand what’s being discussed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.They are interrelated. Read the more thorough link to read philosophical arguments. Not all scholars conceptualise objectification as solely bad from my understanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Are heterosexual women who won't date bisexual men bi/homophobic or is it just a preference?You don’t have to like them. It’s meant to be about rejecting beauty standards and subverting the male gaze. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.It’s extremely underreported and these are some of the factors underpinning why people are critical of porn, sex work and objectification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:11 PM |
| 4 | Women often like guys who treat them as disposableSeems like you are referring to a specific case or demographic of people no offence. I’ve seen many women who were sheltered pick the wrong guys and had to learn from bad experiences. Women also can have autism and Asperger’s which can make reading people hard alongside many other factors. I see many women in religious groups that married a shitty husband and didn’t know till after the wedding. Once again. Your personal dating experience where you likely attract people with insecure attachments … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Go look into sex and human trafficking it’s actually really sad what happens in our own countries. It’s devastating. Women being trafficked, sold and taken into this line of work, denied any legal ID, often ignored by the police. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Modern Dating and the Giffen ParadoxNot to mention as Peterson himself knows much of psych research can’t be replicated, doesn’t factor enough cultural diversity and can be limited in scope with competing theories or data. Yes, my brother and I always discuss this the number of men that never listen to their wives and just hear nagging till they leave ignoring all the little things like you say cards, flowers, date night, emotional support and helping at home. Many men are so adverse to mental health support and will go to masculi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 04:02 PM |
| -1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Fantastic example is women who have sex. Suddenly, they are dehumanised and degraded worthy of awful names. They lose all standing in society and are often denied basic rights. When men watch porn there is a level of objectification of women which can be harmful and dehumanises women as sexual objects to serve their desires no matter how rough and terrible they are. Ask the average man how he feels about marrying a sex worker and how he would treat one behind closed doors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:56 PM |
| 0 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Sexual objectification is the act of treating a person solely as an object of sexual desire. Objectification more broadly means treating a person as a commodity or an object without regard to their personality or dignity. Objectification is most commonly examined at the level of a society, but can also refer to the behavior of individuals and is a type of dehumanization. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_objectification A thorough in-depth view of the term: https://plato.stanford.edu/entrie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Modern Dating and the Giffen ParadoxYes, but my shy of the coaches aren’t even chads or alphas just good at manipulating people. Yep,it seems what brings men into red pill is rejection by women and being divorced. Many guys don’t realise you can read general psych research without joining such an awful movement. The coaches will scan hundreds I’ve seen rates from $250p/hour to $2000 p/hour. Yes many creepy and awful people lurk in these groups that have actual evil intent especially for women. His good at a few niche areas of psyc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:49 PM |
| 5 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sI was 18 and that’s the drinking age here. I think for some women but it depends how much you care, which I no longer do. Just showing that female beauty standards are intense and it’s now shifting to men as it’s a lucrative industry. It’ll be the norm for those that care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:40 PM |
| 1 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Maybe like 1-2/max 3 they didn’t move in together till marriage. They are both Christian and seem really well matched. Women who’ve come out of very long term committed relationships do engage in hooking up, and others prefer it. I don’t think that generalisation is accurate. Nah I’m good. Not to mention women in menopause don’t have periods and most men are less clean than women on average. So no real utility especially if the guy is 60 will likely become a burden unless he’s really well off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:38 PM |
| 5 | Modern Dating and the Giffen ParadoxI don’t know why these men don’t move to conservative countries like many in the Middle East. Yes many misogynist, psychopaths and users. The sad truth is the redpill is used by many coaches to push these narratives to hurt, lost and unsuccessful men to mint money of this group. You basically give them a justification to hate women and stoke their resentment. It’s why they have revenge fantasies and other weird things. Guys, that like Jordan Peterson at all are the hugest reflag ever. The groups… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Modern Dating and the Giffen ParadoxLiterally I don’t get it! These guys are superficial in their dating preferences as they hyper-fixate on very particular kinds of women usually educated, young and very attractive. Then get annoyed that after being superficial women can also in return do the same. Not to mention as you say they literally admit women hit the wall and try act like average women deserve the bare minimum yet claim they want to be women as it’s easier. Something doesn’t add up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:21 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Another factor she can just remain single and sleep with hot younger guys when she wants to scratch the itch. Otherwise for LTR’s she can date divorcees and others around her age. I’m not sure. Unless you are an outlier of a guy in that age group or going to a third world country as a western woman there is little incentive. My godmother married at 40 and her partner was also 40is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:16 PM |
| 7 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sThen you know some women are high maintenance regarding looks. You might have slept with more people than me tbh not hard feat. But I wouldn’t equate going on a date or sleeping with someone the same as knowing all their routines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sYes, that’s what should happen and think it does for those with decent social circles or school or work! I do empathise for those with social or physical disabilities though. I personally really value intelligence or creativity over looks. I’ve meet super attractive guys that had rocks for brains. Looks will fade but having good conversations and interesting conversations are always possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Modern Dating and the Giffen ParadoxYes 1000%! Should have chosen the “better” and all the crap. I actually think many of the “good” women get played by hardcore manipulators and cheats. I’ve seen so many that were virgins and did everything right yet they had worse outcomes than other women. Your self worth and luck plays a huge role. Totally some women luck out but I’ll tell you it’s a huge gamble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:08 PM |
| 3 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sI was NOT selling myself on onlyfans but in can be lucrative for both genders. Plenty of guys make money from men. It’s so fun being sexy and glad I got to enjoy on aspects of that period of my life. It’s not something I care for much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:04 PM |
| 9 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sLol I can’t tell you haven’t met many women. I know girls way hotter than me who do more stuff. Many IG models likely put this level of effort and more. I did that mostly when I used to go out heaps and wanted to look stunning. Would get free drinks, money, Uber paid for, guys gave me their credit cards, numbers / IG‘s, lots of dates, and had fun taking cute pics. Cbf now. Ultimately, I stopped but most women even models or celebrities put lots of effort into looking good and maintaining it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sI think it depends on the end goal and your level of desire. Seems like men define themselves / masculinity around getting women and being wanted. I’m pretty content single living my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:55 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Yeah, it’s because 27 and 37 have way more in-common. The differences don’t seem as huge at that age. Most women want a guy their age or a couple like 1-2 years older. That’s their preference. Older partners age and die faster which isn’t great tbh. Very sad and they might go into aged care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.1) Men are just now experiencing that when it’s been a norm for most women for centuries. From corsets, foot binding, neck rings. 2) Yes violent crime happens to men by other men.. so men here are the problem. I bet if you screen race and socioeconomics you’d see it’s only a certain subset of men. 3) I’ve never seen a man scared when objectified. Most women have felt that from guys whistling and honking. Guys have been caught getting off to women in gyms and harassing them. I’ve never heard of g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:50 PM |
| 0 | Modern Dating and the Giffen ParadoxI would agree with you if I hadn’t seen top “desirable” women be treated awfully, cheated on, abused and heart broken. I also think for beautiful people especially women (I think I’m attractive enough but defs not a model) aging can be awful and these women can also feel settled for. Wanted only for their beauty and youth - although they experience more desire there is a burden to maintain beauty. Conversely, I’ve seen average women get doted on - I think having healthy standards is protection f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sWell stay safe and good luck! Hope it gives you what your seeking <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sDamn. Why is that? Like for getting laid and relationships? Or just your own confidence and happiness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:26 PM |
| 2 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?I can’t wait to hit the wall. I can finally get in shape and not be hit on. But most women I know and worked with felt the exact same way. I think he has options and we were pretty friendly towards each other. But unless I was 100% sure about a guy I think late teens/early twenties with a late 30s is pretty rare. I don’t think many women want guys that old unless the guy is super loaded and rare cases of strong connection. You are at such different life stages, friends will struggle, my family w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sSame for women but you can opt out I do and many advocate for it. Do it for yourself and see getting another gender as a bonus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:15 PM |
| 0 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sMen scare me. It’s like if something doesn’t attract women they won’t do it and it’s odd. I know many women that are required to wear make-up to look professional forget being attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:03 PM |
| 2 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sI like intelligence paired with humility it’s so attractive as someone that loves learning. My ex used to always get me books for my birthday which is so thoughtful and would create discourse between us. I feel mixed. On one hand that’s life honestly people of both genders are superficial and make mistakes. I had way more guys into me when I began putting more effort into being attractive like losing weight, make-up, hair, dressing sexy, nails etc. How should I feel as a woman then? People are c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 02:02 PM |
| 1 | when hope seems lost or when you have problems finding a significant other. love and compassion goes a long wayWhat I’ve seen happen is people go from being avoidant to insecure but you want to work towards getting to secure / healthy, finding those partners. Or someone self aware. If you can afford and find a good psychologist otherwise you can read into ‘attachment styles’! Good luck <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 01:34 PM |
| 1 | raising a family worth it?Good luck, do it for yourself! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 01:01 PM |
| 3 | What feature would make dating apps better for society?Lol no women would just not sign-up, and it’s already skewed in the apps now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 12:23 PM |
| 1 | What feature would make dating apps better for society?Yes this is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 12:22 PM |
| 1 | when hope seems lost or when you have problems finding a significant other. love and compassion goes a long wayYou are attracting people with insecure attachment styles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 12:18 PM |
| 1 | raising a family worth it?No exactly I hear you! She has five kids. I don’t care about being hot for men lol it’s not the prize most men it out to be tbh but just the trauma to your body and kind of having a kid is crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 12:09 PM |
| 1 | raising a family worth it?Basically raising future poor people and wage slaves to be exploited by the wealthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 12:06 PM |
| 2 | raising a family worth it?The best is an age gap minus the kids. I want a financially stable guy that’s child free so we can retire together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 12:05 PM |
| 1 | raising a family worth it?I don’t mind stretch marks so much although it can be really bad. What really scares me is labour, contractions, and stories I’ve heard. Like my friends mum told me that her vagina to but-hole split which has turned me off completely. I already have enough trauma and would likely suffer PPD. Also men being more likely to cheat when women are pregnant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 12:04 PM |
| 3 | If women are willing to date much older man, is the wall really that big of a problem?Nope. The wall isn’t really an issue because the older you are for men and women the harder dating is unless you are a huge outlier. Mens advantage with dating mostly ends mid-30s and you end up becoming the one old guy in the club or having fewer people. I’ve been hit on by a guy I worked with that was bald, late 30s, great shape physically and very financially stable in my early twenties. But it was automatic no. I think maybe you could casually date someone that old but serious relationship w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 12:01 PM |
| 4 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sIt’s fucked. I’m a girl and that shit is crazy. Have yet to see a straight man wear a full face if make-up, heels, and super tight/uncomfortable things to look good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sLife is not fair unfortunately. If I was a guy that wouldn’t really annoy me personally tbh as I’m quite liberal unless the person was using me. I don’t see why guys care unless they are religious or ultra conservative. But even in Christian communities I know plenty of non-virgins that got saved and married virgin men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Online dating is where low quality, leftover women (such as very overweight women, single mothers, those with mental issues) go to find prince charming and mr perfect, in an environment where men outnumber women by 3 to 1I don’t use it but glad you enjoy it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:34 AM |
| 8 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sWhen I got the most attention from men I was putting in so much money, time and effort looking good. Hair extensions, nails, makeup everyday, heels, nice clothes, gym/exercise daily, eating once per day/being super careful with calories, eyelash extension, skin care, eyebrow threading and waxing/shaving. I’m not even in the extreme crowd of women that have eating disorders, get regular Botox/filler, extensive plastic surgery/lipo, and pay for the top end. I easily spent like $1000 p/month to loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:34 AM |
| 1 | A 6-9/10 guy should not struggle to land his equivalent for sex or LTR, but he does. A 4-6/10 woman has zero problem snagging a 7-10 dude for sex or LTR. This is the problem with modern dating.You are not entitled to women. Dating is not supposed to be fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sYou don’t have to outperform, but you can compensate if you want to be more attractive and maximise your options. Dating and life isn’t fair. If you don’t like it check out if the game and find other things in life. Many women will settle for someone they find less attractive if it’s long-term because aging happens anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:24 AM |
| 2 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.Well then typically it’s men asking women out as they want to date and have sex more than women. I’m happy to chill like many women and remain single it’s not really a big issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:20 AM |
| 2 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.Well no problem exists as we are chilling on our own remember? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:13 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why some of you withhold sex when dating ltr worthy men?Its kind of like men with “post-but clarity” but for women it’s before sex. If you meet a great guy you want to be sure you are compatible without sex, you want to try screen for men using you for sex, you also want to signal to that guy you are more relationship material, also it’s very easy to have your judgement clouded by good sex and it can be awkward asking someone to do a full STI test including bloods prior. I many women only date for ltrs though so they do that practise for everyone. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.Fair enough then. We can all just chill on our own problem solved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:08 AM |
| 1 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.It feels like some men bought deeply into the nuclear family of the past century and assumed every man deserved that. Which is not true. I feel like more traditional men treat women as private property whereas more liberal men view women as public property. I don’t want either role. It seems like an entitlement towards women to assume our pickiness must be because our egos are inflated. Rather than the very real risks associated with dating men that women face from childbirth which use to be lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:08 AM |
| 1 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.Yep, basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 11:00 AM |
| 2 | The #1 reason women are so selective and flake so easily is because they simply aren’t as interested in men or dating as the reverse which inflates their options and in turn their egos, not because of the “danger” of dating as a woman or risk of getting pregnant.Yes. I would routinely get pregnancy tests with my new partner despite being on the rod in case it happened. It’s my worst nightmare and would ruin my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: how often do you give your number out when cold approached? Follow up question, how often do you follow through when he texts you?I usually don’t. I’ll make up a number but once I did give a guy my number and went in a date. He was annoying and wish I’d never left my house. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Online dating is where low quality, leftover women (such as very overweight women, single mothers, those with mental issues) go to find prince charming and mr perfect, in an environment where men outnumber women by 3 to 1Yep. I think online dating is like dumpster diving. Sometimes you can find treasure but usually it’s just trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:55 AM |
| 1 | A man should never act like he cares so much about the relationshipI care but don’t need a partner. If they leave my life continues as usual. I can also block someone and move on easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:53 AM |
| 2 | Mismatched Body-Counts: Important or Not?Yes! I’m totally supportive of people that have these views but don’t like guys with double standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Young single women are checking out of dating/society more than single men.I rarely socialise and I’m like 22F. I had a moment around 18 which is the legal drinking age but was done by like 19. Only went out when I was in a relationship because my partner wanted to. Not interested in dating, clubbing and never go on social media / online dating so the only guys that would ever meet me are through work, school or friends or friends. I love being a hermit, don’t want kids and happy to stay this way. Will be saving to retire early and I’m super introverted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:50 AM |
| 2 | Young single women are checking out of dating/society more than single men.With men usually.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:47 AM |
| 1 | raising a family worth it?I’d rather engage with kids through a job or volunteer work then as a parent. I don’t want to be responsible for birthing, and raising a child especially in this economy/world. Personally working a job is more manageable as I get more breaks, get paid and can quit or switch fields. I also enjoy knowing the only person I’m responsible is me and I can ignore any biological timelines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:44 AM |
| 1 | raising a family worth it?Thanks for sharing this. Have saved this comment which makes me so happy I’ll never have kids. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:42 AM |
| 1 | raising a family worth it?I think the pros and cons to the individual are more balanced for men as they can really benefit from the wife and family. Although it brings more responsibility usually career wise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:41 AM |
| – | Even the most average girl still expects you to “woo” and convince her you are worthy of her attention, and this is why even above average men have grown tired and many even given up on actively datingI legit spoil my friends with dinners and nice gifts all the time. I don’t understand why guys complain about this. Also if you want go see a prostitute / escort instead… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:34 AM |
| 2 | Do women have to choose two out of Comfort, Freedom and Life?I will always chose freedom and independence which some men can’t fathom. Money gives you ultimate F-You power to ensure you don’t have to tolerate crap from anyone including family, friends, job, partner or society. Yes, you’ll have to work which isn’t fun but I get to buy my power and freedom which is meaningful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:31 AM |
| 4 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.Well then no-one because no date is happening. Most women will just carry on with their lives 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Financially investing in women early on to show that you're not just after sex seems logical. But when women take advantage of this by using men as free meal tickets or giving free sex very quickly to attractive men, men rightfully stop investing in women.I think before marriage is fine but you have to vet people guys seem to love spoiling any girl they find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:26 AM |
| -8 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.You are detached fro reality and most guys wouldn’t last a second as women lol. Way more energy and expectations as a woman for looking good, taking care of yourself, being kind, fear for your physical safety, being objectified (walking alone or running somewhere when a bunch of guys whistle or honk making you feel uncomfortable), constantly controlled on what you can wear or not (to short, to long, to sexy), period pains/cramps monthly, fear of getting pregnant after sex, being excluded in male… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Debate: I would much rather be an average woman in an America than an average man.Sorry it what sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:20 AM |
| 2 | If you have gold digging tendencies you deserved to be pumped and dumpedWhat does that even mean? I don’t sympathise with judgemental or hypocritical men that get lied to by their partners about their past. So yep. I guess if we don’t agree with someone’s actions or behaviours we feel less sympathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:15 AM |
| 5 | If you have gold digging tendencies you deserved to be pumped and dumpedExactly! Although many are easily tricked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Do single mothers or single fathers make better parents overall?Based on what measurement? On most women trump men as they actually take role of parenting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:12 AM |
| 2 | Male beauty standards are exponentially more critical than female'sFor casual sex usually. But for relationships women look at the whole package more closely so someone less attractive that’s very financially stable might be worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:11 AM |
| 2 | What’s wrong with average women wanting to be wooed?Flowers, nice dinner, romantic gestures etc. People have the right to be wooed if that’s their preference. Also many guys love spoiling women. If you don’t then make that clear and you’ll find women that don’t care. Terms like “average” are not useful in the real world. An average women to you could be the love of someone else’s life and mother of their kids. I also think for men who want children it’s a healthy dynamic to show you are serious and care about your partner. It doesn’t have to be e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:08 AM |
| 6 | If you raise ANY kids other kids than your own you are the definition of a cuck.Men need to stop trying to use language and insults to police both genders behaviour, it’s just tiring. We get it you don’t want raise other peoples kids but this is such an absurd concept. Like are adoptive parents cucks.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/22 10:05 AM |
| 3 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?Factor in student loans in the US and the ROI is not great. But I get your point. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 02:58 PM |
| – | everyone is scared of turning 30That's a positive thought! I'm a late bloomer as well and behind in some regards there are positives to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 08:02 AM |
| – | everyone is scared of turning 30Not everyone wants to achieve the status quo. Also very few marriages occur with larger ages gaps and most have a higher chance of failure. I was raised with so many single women as Aunts and some whom married later in life. They were spared terrible marriages, abuse, and financial ruin by not rushing into a bad marriage. Many of our parents that married are unhappy in their marriages, separated or divorced. I'm in my early twenties and laugh when I hear men saying that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 07:59 AM |
| – | everyone is scared of turning 30I care more about my career, having my shit together and my financial stability than being beautiful. I think its overrated, as for most women as its a depreciating asset, worth investing heavily into unless rely on it for work (model, actress, sex-worker etc) or want a relationship with someone wealthy. I hated my teenage years and twenties so I am hoping my thirties will be better. Having seen people at work in their thirties as long as you are in good health and having been working towards so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 07:54 AM |
| 4 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?Compared to other college educated professions and vocations they are underpaid which I consider low. It's not a profession for those that prioritise money. Sadly, most musicians, actors or creatives make barely any money but the potential is extremely high but no stability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 07:27 AM |
| 3 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?They have a limited earning potential compared to the investment required to enter the profession. Many other low paid professions like musicians, actors, fine arts, english/literature/journalist etc end up in teaching as it has the stability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 07:18 AM |
| 4 | Do any woman here follow Female Dating Strategy? If you do, how is your dating life? What kind of men do you attract?I like FDS as it’s refreshing to be in women’s spaces, air grievances or frustrations and hear different dating perspectives. I’m not necessarily interested in dating or need help as it’s not yet a priority but it’s nice to read posts on celibacy, critiques of porn/sex positive culture, block/deleting guys and many other topics plus remind myself of the importance of boundaries and avoiding crappy relationships. While I’m very critical of some the posts, overall it added value, despite not posti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 03:01 AM |
| 2 | Q4All how do you define virginity?Same, but it would be weird to say you aren’t a virgin if you’ve done everything but PIV. I think it’s losing its ties to chastity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 11:49 PM |
| 4 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?Ah like they are the forgotten ones in the band? What if someone is a guitarist, drummer and does backup vocals. Like they can play multiple instruments it might be a lil better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:46 PM |
| 6 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?Why not drummer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:47 PM |
| 6 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?I love creative men yes this a good one especially if someone can play live! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:47 PM |
| 18 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?Yes, a male teacher who’s in shape and good with kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:47 PM |
| 24 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?Definitely, that’s a super attractive job and makes you sound smart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:46 PM |
| 10 | What’s a low paying job for men that is so “cool” people don’t realize you’re broke?They do not have the same status as doctors but are definitely positively viewed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:30 PM |
| 8 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinOr perks their gf won’t give like anal or freaky stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinAlmost every perspective on history is biased and ignores / discounts things but it doesn't mean we can't use them to be more informed. It depends on the goal of the movement and given you are referring to feminism that goal of the movement and mechanisms to achieve those goals are widely debated. I think you are confusing equality with equity. Equity might mean you treat people unfairly to give them equal opportunities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinYes, that's how patriarchies work in that they mostly benefit a few men with leadership and power (many men didn't procreate and were used in wars). While men did suffer historically they did have more benefits than women as religion and other reasons were used to denote men heads of the household, deny women access to money, education and opportunities/freedoms. Obviously that's changed in many ways and feminism has removed those limitations women had and capitalism has supported the feminist a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 06:36 AM |
| 4 | Women who have careers and RP mindsetYou know there are numerous different types of careers. I know of a really attractive surgeon that married an elementary teacher who cooks him/the family organic meals daily, looks after the kids and has holidays off with them. Still has a secure career. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinI don't think its feminists but general women. Most women are not academic feminists and philosophers so their understanding of many of these issues is very superficial. Patriarchal societies are extremely harmful to men it's just that it's men who also benefit the most. Women also play a role for sure but there is no easy fix because most men hate being weak or seen as such. Men use language and insults to police male behaviour don't be gay, your a fag, pussy, prissy/sissy, grow some balls, wea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 05:36 AM |
| 1 | How much of a deal breaker would it be for a guy to be living with his parents in his early 20s?yep, this is common from what I've seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | How much of a deal breaker would it be for a guy to be living with his parents in his early 20s?I think that's partly because of other sexist views and realities. In some cultures and religions women don't live alone unless married, some men like the idea their partner is at home / family oriented + probably not hooking up as much and its also a safety thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 05:14 AM |
| 1 | How much of a deal breaker would it be for a guy to be living with his parents in his early 20s?If I was dating it wouldn't be a dealbreaker. However, it would be my preference that they don't live at home because I do so its nicer when they have their own place or space secluded from family. I know many couples that live with parents or people that maintain relationships while living at home or do hook-ups while at home/living with others. It does make things harder and the older you are the more of an issue it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 05:09 AM |
| 5 | The generational disconnect that makes some conversations in PPD lack nuanceMade some good points. I disagree with your last point in the sense that leftist ideologies / feminisation didn't make men pay for OFs or shower women with attention as many men would buy playboy or other magazines. What's happened is women have taken control of their own sexuality, and have seen how they can maximise that for their own benefit rather than for another person. Social media has played a huge role but also women can dictate the marketplace and have more power then many thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 05:06 AM |
| 3 | Why Are You On PPD?Similar to why I join tinder every once in awhile to appreciate being single and remind myself of how bad things are out there. Also I'm interested in psychology and sociology so I find the discussion/references to psychology interesting. Plus, I think it's important for different opinions to be presented here to prevent it from fully becoming an echo chamber. I also like to correct what I think are misrepresentations and mischaracterisations of many concepts/studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:59 AM |
| 3 | Why Are You On PPD?:D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:55 AM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinYes, but many men who support women or claim to support women want sex or to be politically correct and/or it aligns with their political beliefs. Many men even tell me they enjoy having women as friends and especially value men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:54 AM |
| 2 | In your opinion, what are the benefits of dating men for modern day women?Yeah, he's a really awesome guy and I really love him. We can't make each other happy long-term: - He wants kids, I don't. - He wants adventure, spontaneity and instability. I want security and being close to my family - early retirement visions look different. - He wanted to move to a bigger city within the next year and I did not. Long distance is hard because finding a city / life we both want was too hard. - He's way more extroverted plus enjoys drinking, going out, clubbing and having a goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinYes, they typically live at home, love Jordan Peterson, need very basic advice like to make their beds and see him as a father figure - he calls them "Peterpans". It's quite sad. I think those from more lower middle class and working class backgrounds have to work which can make them more rounded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:34 AM |
| 2 | In your opinion, what are the benefits of dating men for modern day women?That's great and she's quite young. Aw thank you too. <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:28 AM |
| 1 | In your opinion, what are the benefits of dating men for modern day women?Is she also successful academically, socially, and financially independently? Also how old is she? Good luck! Hopefully you'll get there with your goals even if it takes longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:13 AM |
| 3 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinI think modern men certainly appear weaker given increased rates of mental illness (depression, anxiety etc), harmful impacts of porn/OFs/gaming, obesity rates skyrocketing, and economic challenges causing men to live at home with parents longer. I don't think society and many men understand the value of gender roles. I think they shouldn't be pushed or forced onto everyone but many guys that adopt a 50/50 mentality end up lacking drive, purpose and end up like many modern families trying to jug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 04:07 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Yep, I'm on reddit typing responses in 10 secs not on a public show... or talking to someone in person. Being tall isn't a personality and that's not the kind of guy I want. Everyone wants different things and I personally value intelligence / education, morals and other traits highly. Ok? Obama > Andrew tate or any red pill guys. Obama is the "dream man". Well educated, intelligent, attractive, tall, athletic and well-spoken. Damn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:57 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Think I worded it confusingly. I just meant those men are exceptional and sit within the top 1-5% of men and are not representative of most guys. Not saying all men in the 1-5% are athletes/celebrities - obviously that demographic is at the top of the "hvm" pyramid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:51 AM |
| 2 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinI'll come back and answer this question. I have a number of views! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:50 AM |
| 2 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinBut they aren't saying they deserve a ltr. Just that if they can't get that with someone they like they aren't interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:43 AM |
| 2 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinWhere are the woman posting in this sub saying they deserve certain outcomes? I've seen women have standards or preferences but few are creating a sub or movement many just date looking for that hvm which is totally their prerogative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:13 AM |
| 5 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinMen struggle to get women's attention because most women assume it's not serious, meaningful, safe or lacks compatibility and don't want to waste their time. If men want guaranteed sex and attention they can pay for that. Whereas it's much harder to pay someone to love you and put effort into a meaningful relationship which is want most average women want. Having more choices only means more energy and effort is required to vet each person not to mention for some women they struggle with the par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 02:07 AM |
| 4 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinI agree 100%. Not only have sex with anyone but will pay them, give them compliments, shower them with gifts and flirt. Yet, guys will come on here and complain online about women's inflated egos that they helped build. Not to mention guys that ridicule women for exercising their options knowing if they had more options they wouldn't be chaste virgins. It is hilarious honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:43 AM |
| 3 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinOf course not and if they can't find one they can stay single. I would tell that to both men and women. I don't have people like that in my circle but they exist. Have whatever standards but if someone doesn't meet them than you have to either settle or remain single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinYes, I can't date someone that isn't super direct in wanting me it's literally unattractive to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:26 AM |
| 0 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinNot all. Also you have to realise most people aren't walking around being rated an objective number so it's possible some women/men think they are more attractive then they actually are whereas others are more realistic. Also everyone is always trying to secure the best partner possible and most compatible partner which means sometimes, and commonly, both genders cheat/leave a really good partner because they erroneously think they can do better. Ego is the undoing of many people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:18 AM |
| 4 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinYou do realise the problem is other men don't care about other men's problems. Men are not supportive and this is why you'll see most support women get is from other women. Look at women social dynamics, women often compliment other girls as a form of greeting or in general over every little thing. Men typically like to pick on each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:11 AM |
| 3 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinI think both genders have struggles and the problem arises when people think things in dating or life is meant to fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinNo-one deserves or is entitled to anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:44 AM |
| 3 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinMore like a mouldy old sandwich that could make you sick but you aren't sure... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:34 AM |
| 24 | Women here love to say that their privilege is limited to casual sex, but access to relationships and casual sex are two sides of the same coinYes, also men will settle with women they don't find attractive or that don't satisfy them till they can find better or just cheat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:23 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Your anecdotal evidence doesn't negate what women are attracted to statistically on average. So the 1-5% guys that play professional sports or are celebrities and are in extremely good shape (plus not married) are not indicative of the average guy in their 30's. If you are the average guy going to clubs in your 30s is just sad tbh. From what I've seen he typically "dates" sex workers... and is their PIMP. Tate probably gets by on the fact he's an athlete, has money and lives in Romania. Please e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:14 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Yep, but how they frame it is self-deprecating and very tactless. I can frame preferences with tact: - I hate tiny dicks they are so cringe. Laugh at them. :D I hate manlet midgets gross. Short man syndrome. - I prefer more well endowed men. I prefer taller guys. I dislike men and women that don't use tact its unnecessary and speaks volumes about their character. I hate men that demonise single mothers like you don't have to date them but single fathers to me are just as bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?While I empathise my number 1 advice would be rehab and therapy but that's why I acknowledge being determined is important. Many addicts can't change till they want to change and can admit their is a problem. However, self-help provides generic advice and requires people to be be able to implement the advice. Many guys need therapy and to grind especially if you are an incel. That is the best way out of this if you get girls great but either way you are set. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 11:59 PM |
| 2 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?I’ve seen some “incel” men who legit could pull of getting a gf and a couple of hookups if they were determined. Many are hung up as they have extremely high standards/poor mindset of autism. Others really can try their best but not outcome is guaranteed. I mean I’m not a dating guru just a random person and people should take advice from the person most like you with the outcome you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 07:58 PM |
| 2 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?You need to be specific by struggle with women. I have friends that only date 6” but they only date guys a couple years older rarely is it men in their 30s. If these men date via seeking arrangements (which FnF do but not sure about Tate) then sure they have options. Irl data shows people rarely marry, and women are not attracted to men more than a few years older (1-3) than them from my understanding. It’s men that like young women but they are hard to date without luck and being creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 07:54 PM |
| 3 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Tate has more options than most men and can probably find an attractive women via money / lifestyle and nice aesthetic. But compared to legit hot guys who are young Tate would likely struggle due to age and baldness. My point is these men should have no baring on most mens life as they are worlds apart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 07:18 PM |
| 2 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Literally Fit says they don’t like nightriders and us outright rude to women with his own complexion. It’s on YouTube I can find the video but it’s their perogative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 07:14 PM |
| 3 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?It’s not easy and we’d need more info on him. You might never find someone much like many women will never find their ideal HVM. But you have to find goals beyond dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 07:12 PM |
| 4 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Might check out some of those books too they seem interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 05:14 PM |
| 3 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?That wasn’t my point. I’d rather a guy grinding in research to try cure cancer and investing his money than Fresh, Fit or Tate. One has made money through a respectable route and the other has not. It’s about compatibility. Not saying he doesn’t have options just that he’s not for me or my lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 04:51 PM |
| 8 | Which one of these three guys would you prefer for a relationship and why?Need more info on why Mario has slept with so many vs Dario. I guess what are their attitudes to sex and protection/getting tested. But if Dario was sex positive then I’d prefer him. I’d be different if Mario was lower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | What sports or hobbies that a potential relationship partner might have attract you the most?Yep, an intelligent, artistic, musical and creative men is my number one weakness honestly. They are something else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 11:38 AM |
| 5 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Focus on your career, join some hobbies that have good gender balance (skew), go to the gym/be in shape, have some guy friends and just be polite / friendly like make jokes (banter) and be positive. Also try dress appropriately for the type of girl and environment plus smell nice. If you can do most of that finding someone shouldn’t be hard. Be realistic about your league. Otherwise scroll tinder everyday and go out drinking wasting your money trying to get with girls. Spend $1000’s on courses t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 11:35 AM |
| 9 | Dating for women has ONLY advantages and ZERO significant disadvantages in the West - not even violenceThe thing is many women don’t report incidences and it takes 1 bad incident to traumatise you for a long time tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 10:51 AM |
| 4 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Same - it's cringe but people actually believe it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 10:40 AM |
| 3 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Exactly, they degrade and demonise women (actively colourist) and grift to scam desperate men, why would anyone respect that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 10:31 AM |
| 4 | Looks, or money?So you have no decent response lol 😂 You can’t make this up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 04:26 AM |
| 4 | Looks, or money?Naturalistic fallacy: Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good. There are plenty of women that still want children and your post reeks of someone that needs therapy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 04:25 AM |
| 4 | Men do not value youth more than women due to biology, they just used to have the privilege of choosing partners based on looksBut as women no longer want children and have careers our fertility window will become wider. Demonstrated by later marriages and periods when people give birth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 04:23 AM |
| 2 | Looks, or money?Same | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Looks, or money?Yep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 04:20 AM |
| 7 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?I don’t care. I hope he doesn’t find me attractive god save me. Plenty of great and morally respectable men that I’d prefer. I’m also not that interested in dating it’s not a priority. He’s for the streets and trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:49 AM |
| 5 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?They haven’t done anything meaningful l would be so embarrassed bringing any of those guys home. Their success isn’t based on anything I respect. Cure cancer or do something substantial. Look at who they associate with. Dude if you want to date him I’m not stopping you. Only weird men think like that, please date me because I’m scarce and rare despite being an old gross person. Like it’s not for me. I’m good. We all have preferences lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?He can’t control whether he is judged or not that is up to other people. I don’t think he’s compatible with women with a low count necessarily because he has “changed”. If the other people have low counts 100% they have the right to judge her and make the decision they aren’t compatible in their views of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:28 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Ok, well it seems like the concept is misleading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:22 AM |
| 5 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?It’s subjective what best man is to each woman. Also women are less likely then men to remarry after divorce so I don’t think it’s as clear cut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:21 AM |
| 0 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:21 AM |
| 7 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?We all have difference preferences. I’m early twenties so a bald old man isn’t for me. The only women that like him want his money and are likely morally bankrupt. He’s not a HVM to me. If you find him attractive that’s fine we know half you should just go date other men. Fresh is downright ugly and weird. Fit is balding on what planet are they hot. If you are using them for money maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:19 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?How do you know? I think his work is disgusting which is my view on PIMPs and men who buy sex work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:16 AM |
| 0 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Yes basically. Both parties make their expectations clear and you lower divorce which incentivises more to engage. By the time someone is divorcing it’s likely both parties have resentment and are frustrated thus wanting to exert pain on others. You want to decide somethings when rational and still in love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Correlation is not causation which is like the most basic concept. Not to mention you likely not controlling for important factors like drinking, religion, extroversion etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:12 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Why does he deserve or get a low count partner? He can date other women like him. He can have whatever preference but it’s unrealistic to assume you won’t end up with a women lying as you can’t prove someone’s count. Also why would he get forgiveness but he can’t do the same for others like him. Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4All how do you define virginity?I’ve never heard someone that’s given a blowjob but not have sex refer to themselves as no longer being a virgin. So I’m just basing that on my experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:06 AM |
| 6 | Dating for women has ONLY advantages and ZERO significant disadvantages in the West - not even violenceNope. I’m just repulsed by most men romantically and sexually. Plus the added risk makes it not worthwhile. It is a risk v reward calculation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?You have no argument besides insecurity 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:03 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?It literally doesn’t. You know what’s actually happening women and men aren’t religious or conservative. In that context why should they not indulge like they have that freedom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:03 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?I’ve had the same view as a virgin and now, my count isn’t even super high, but if you engage in casual sex it’s hypocritical. That is simple. I don’t like hypocrites who aren’t self aware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 03:01 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Nope. He deserves what he is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Why? Is that just the make ego? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:56 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?I don’t care if men have that as a standard but typically it’s rooted in shaming women that enjoy sex and have had multiple partners. If a guy is a virgin cool, but men who engage in casual sex have no right to expect a partner with a low count in my view. It doesn’t make sense mathematically. Not to mention why should someone have a low count if they aren’t religious or conservative unless they want? The only woman I know with a count of zero is evidently asexual and aromantic. I think many guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:53 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Why have none been interviewed on his channel or come forward to speak of their experiences. I don’t trust a Pimps it’s one of the most deplorable jobs ever and makes me sick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:45 AM |
| 3 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?I think the problem starts before you are married when people enter in because it’s so vague. People rush due to religion, family, having a child and many other reasons that may not net good relationships. People should also discuss at length and be made aware of the legal impacts. At the end it’s too late. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4All how do you define virginity?It’s always PIV, and many people specify if they haven’t done more. I know girls that kept their counts low by doing blow jobs or other sexual acts but called themselves virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:40 AM |
| 10 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Fresh and Fit + Tate are ugly, especially Fresh. Didn’t he get caught simping for a sugar baby who disagreed with their whole situation. Makes me think they don’t pull much and when they do it’s OF girls. How are you going to generalise women from OFs models? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:39 AM |
| 5 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Do you understand how assault works? Also he was manipulating previous gfs into webcam models, then basically trafficking them for sex and money while benefiting so he’s a PIMP. Not to mention accusations of locking women in his home so they couldn’t leave and beating one with a belt. It sounds disgusting and any man the admired him deserves to be scammed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:37 AM |
| 1 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?Thank you! Cbf but this post is so accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:34 AM |
| 8 | What are PPDs' thoughts on Andrew Tate?He’s a another psychopathic red pill guru trying to take ridiculous sums of money from desperate men and he’s a morally deplorable individual. What exactly does he say that you really enjoy and like quite frankly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:32 AM |
| 2 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Okay but why date women then if you think their behaviour is bad and incentivise it further. I don’t think men realise they strongly drive some of this “behaviour” and also men should be grateful they can have sex without any repercussions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:31 AM |
| 4 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?I also don’t agree with that as an outcome. It’s no an inherently good thing for couples to stay together no matter what. I think things like pre-marital counselling and making it harder to get married would be good for both parties to agree on what they want etc. But if someone wants to leave that’s their prerogative. Men (most women) would avoid most of the financial repercussions of divorce if they actually considered womens careers when marrying them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:26 AM |
| 2 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Okay heuristics are typically short cuts and bias for decision-making… if AWALT why engage with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?What has that got to do with my question… also it’s an atheist sub where people share their experiences and frustrations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?So then AWALT isn’t real??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:20 AM |
| 4 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?As a childfree woman that loves feminism HELL NO. I would die before having a child. No-one made people go out and have sex before marriage. If you decide to do that I don’t have much pity for you. With marriage a more robust prenuptial agreement should be mandated that is flexible and agreed by both parties if you didn’t sign or organise that then the judge should have oversight. Most people don’t even pay child support payments and most people are such chaotic parents that I don’t have much em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?I guess Jeff Bezos can lose half his wealth and not realise so fair point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:40 PM |
| 6 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Seems like way to much effort and over-complicating dating tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)This! He’s not a guy I’d take seriously about shit regarding dating, and all these dudes look up to him… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:06 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Tate is full of He’s the kid of guy that sleeps with a machete and engages is risky behaviour so he’d likely be the one putting your life at risk. He’s literally been accused of abusing and sex trafficking women (including those he dates). I don’t think he has a modicum of respect for women. I don’t want either man tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:04 PM |
| 4 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?It’s a nice fantasy. It’s not common that someone has a low count and treasures sex but will have sex in 3 dates. I guess if you only date really young and naive women but still. From my experience woman that really value sex are waiting for marriage or up to several months of dating typically. They usually are religious or conservative - 3 dates would never fly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 07:00 PM |
| 4 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Thank you for sharing the story and that makes sense now. Helped contextualise things. ❤️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?That makes more sense. Still a bit confused on why men that believe in AWALT would risk a relationship though. But I guess kids or hope the guy is enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:56 PM |
| 1 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)K, bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Ok, you asked if I’ve heard about the story and I said no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:38 PM |
| 3 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?I literally have no idea what you are saying. Sorry, not sure why you need the heuristic for, and what the frog/scorpion story is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:30 PM |
| 4 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Why? Too damaged to raise healthy kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:19 PM |
| 20 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?But due to confirmation bias and their dating techniques sex in 3 dates, among others it’s going to skew their sample size. Women looking for marriage will avoid them as they are usually waiting longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:13 PM |
| 7 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?AWALT… You all contradict yourself and the ideology how does that make sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:11 PM |
| 4 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?What about AWALT? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:10 PM |
| 2 | It is a man's duty to protect his woman. You're a coward if you think otherwise. (excluding very specific situations)Tate is full of shit tho 🤮🤢🤦♀️. His business where he gets his gfs to be webcam models is disgusting and should remind women you should be more afraid of the guy you are dating than a stranger (pretty sure they are most likely to kill or harm you!). Also if your gf was in the military or a black belt it might make sense she fight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:08 PM |
| 1 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersYes!! This is so so true and many can’t fathom that they are the cause of their problems. Not women. There are awful people in both genders but in certain environments they are over-represented. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:01 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat Megathread:D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseOk you sound stupid as it's your job to substantiate your own claim/hypothesis. Also your statement was irrelevant and makes you sound insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:42 PM |
| 3 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseNo, I just expect people to substantiate their statements. I personally can't find any robust or reliable research. But we can agree to disagree until proven otherwise. I'm not necessarily committed to an outcome as anecdotal evidence is all you've provided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseEvidence for your statement via research? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseI am a woman and have model looking friends. This sounds like a generalisation so please provide a source. I know plenty of attractive women with counts well over 50+ or who have cheated extensively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 12:54 PM |
| 1 | The elephant in the room that women have attempted to get us to ignore: women are not attracted to genuinely nice guysWhen I say life is complex its in the sense that people are complex and therefore you can't prescribe one thing to every person. Many men don't need "redpill" to know what is effectively common sense of go to the gym, be the best version of yourself and treat women equally. The whole don't get to attached seems like a trauma response but okay. I know men that disagree vehemently and laugh at red pill who are doing fine. Once again it's your prerogative and I don't really care what you chose to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 12:50 PM |
| 1 | The elephant in the room that women have attempted to get us to ignore: women are not attracted to genuinely nice guysYes, the red pill and red pill coaches evidently prescribe their own "rules" to follow which can be purchased in their books and videos. All I'm saying is that in life it's not always that straightforward there are probably men that followed the "blue-pill" strategy and lived happily. Life is complex and following set rules for men and women does not always guarantee results. You have to factor individual differences and experiences. The only men I've seen strongly embrace "red pill" are super d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Would women lose their social and reproductive value if men had easily acess to technology that made them be able to reproduce without women?Fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 11:14 AM |
| 1 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersYou can expect partners to get a full test prior to getting intimate to reduce chances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 05:48 AM |
| 1 | Questions for those who MGTOW / WGTOWYou seem like such a fantastic woman and I can’t wait to be sterilised! Have a great day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.No exactly, and I’d agree that’s fair. Good luck with everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.See, I think we’d categorise things differently. I think looks are important but so is the whole picture given in many educated circles degrees have value and speak to your socioeconomic background (men with degrees typically have a larger pool of women). Not to mention assets and financial management. Given she’s losing weight I think they are pretty well matched and she gets hit on regularly. I do agree that for relationships it’s smarter to find your equal or above for both genders. There are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.I think it’s more how do you define a “league” like would you be basing that strictly on looks or other factors because I’m not sure I necessarily agree with your statement. I think leagues are more complex, unless we are just considering looks but even then women often wear makeup so it’s hard to say. For example, I know a couple where the gf is pretty but significantly overweight and the guy has a six pack in the military. If it’s by looks including weight she’s dating above average but consid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.When you say girls are more likely to date above their league what do you mean? Otherwise your advice makes sense for those interested in dating although I don’t think most will listen to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Based on your personal experience, do cheaters tend to have many or few friends of the opposite sex?Yeah exactly! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.What do you define as dating above leagues? I think that’s very subjective tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Lying is the only viable dating strategy for menYes, also tact and social norms are relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 03:08 AM |
| 1 | There's two ways to get women to have more children, the carrot and the stick, which is a better plan?No I think more women are “child free”but there lots of men that just don’t think much about it. Dating when you are childfree is really hard for both genders given most want or are open to kids or already have kids. But I think you raise a good point it’s not just women, men are a factor and the world we live in doesn’t incentivise children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:58 AM |
| 2 | A lot of average/below average women have terrible personalitiesYes people overlook things in attractive people due to bias. Which makes sense. Great point! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:55 AM |
| 1 | A lot of average/below average women have terrible personalitiesSame with men who are probably even worse. I don’t understand why people assume all women are nice and sweet like they are human and have flaws, trauma, negative traits etc. People here are obsessed in a weird way with attractiveness. I don’t get the purpose of this post as everyone can be shitty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:55 AM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?Hobbies and group activities tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseOf course not and I’d prefer someone that can have fun! I’m mostly concerned about people post-college (above 25) who drink or party excessively tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:50 AM |
| 1 | TRP and feminism have similar underlying beliefs about what a woman "brings to the table".Sorry which feminists are you referring to and I don’t think you’ve put much thought into this post. I’m confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Men want the most sexual partners possible and women want the best. That's where our problems come from.Thank you. I’ve heard of men that go whaling and sleep with biggest person they can find - it’s stories like that which makes me want to never date another person in my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Would women lose their social and reproductive value if men had easily acess to technology that made them be able to reproduce without women?Based on the manosphere as a “high earning” surgeon don’t you theoretically have plenty of options why do you want to do kids single especially since you work do much. I also find it interesting that you care about your partners job which is smart and goes against what so many men say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:44 AM |
| 1 | The idea that “you can’t control who you’re attracted to” is disingenuous, and fails to recognize the variable of relativity in women’s ability to be incredibly selective. That is, a persons “standards” are fluid and fluctuate quickly in the absence of options.By your logic why can’t men sleep with other men? Thus opening their options if attraction isn’t hard to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:40 AM |
| 3 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?These men have helped me raise my standards so I don’t end up with someone like them! It’s a blessing to hear certain men try induce fear by saying women will die alone. Evidently mad that when presented with a choice women choice nothing over crap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?Lol this is a fantastic explanation. It’s easier to be mad at women than other men who can assert more power and strength. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Women flex way more than men.I’ve seen men post photos with their cars on social media and dating apps lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:32 AM |
| 3 | The elephant in the room that women have attempted to get us to ignore: women are not attracted to genuinely nice guysSame with men. Being nice isn’t a personality nor is being nice all the time attractive. I’m a people pleaser and have been working on this. But many nice guys are only nice to get sex which is gross and makes them feel fake. Others are nice but can never say no or stand up for themselves which breeds resentment. Being nice but not found attractive will limit your options. Many men here and in the red pill keep pretending that if you follow the rules of life you get certain results. This isn’t r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:28 AM |
| 3 | Getting Muscular Is A Terrible Return On Investment When It Comes To DatingFor younger women 100% being masculine without any boyishness is not attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Why do women push back so hard on the notion that dating may be easier for them?The ramifications and presented solutions are awful. Not to mention how do you define awful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseYes compatibility 100%! I think that’s the key concept not looking down on others choices but recognising they are right for us. ☺️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:24 AM |
| 2 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseJust a point, so you are fine with serial monogamy where people jump from relationship to relationship but not someone even trying casual sex ever and let’s say changing their mind. Both are in excess are red flags. Like if someone had 7 bfs or gfs and none worked out. Do you care about length of relationship etc, just interesting to observe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:21 AM |
| 3 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseI’ve been on dates with guys that say they drink socially but also drink every night. So you’ve got to watch out because many women and men have problems with alcohol and drugs but are high functioning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseI don’t think you can generalise but someone man or woman that’s had a lot of partners is likely more extroverted, liberal and drinks so I do thinking cheating is more likely. There is less of a respect for marriage. But I think you need to consider peoples motivations. You don’t want to marry someone that doesn’t like sex or is asexual either but it has to be a balance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:13 AM |
| 7 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseYes, I’ve noticed both men and woman that love hooking up, partying and clubbing usually don’t make the most committed or decent long term partners. They can still be decent people as friends just not dating wise. Also people that can never be single are red flags. I prefer to evaluate peoples attitudes, beliefs and actions as context is really important and growth does happen. Context is critical. For example, I will say the more attractive you are as a women or man the harder it would be to ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 02:03 AM |
| 6 | The only people having fun in dating is men with optionsYes and no. I’ve meet guys that have options as in tall, smart, well educated, above average down stairs, good job and attractive that get rejected. They get with loads of girls but get invested in dating women out of their league and with way more options. In life the happiest are those that can find someone well matched to them look wise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:50 AM |
| 9 | Does anyone actually talk about *having sex* on this Sub?😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:41 AM |
| 5 | Why don't single men go to church to find a wife if the sex ratios in church are usually 60-40, female-male?What do you mean by you believe to much for atheists? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:40 AM |
| 1 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersSorry, I didn’t mean to be aggressive but if condoms make you feel safe that’s fine but they aren’t 100% protection of STDs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Shouldn’t the buyers set the standards?I like both Target and Hermes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:25 AM |
| 1 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersSorry, I’m not sure I get what you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 04:04 PM |
| 0 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersCondoms don’t prevent all STI’s but go fuck whichever randoms you can find… idc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 03:48 PM |
| 2 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersNo exactly! It’s strange some of those who don’t care also don’t use protection like wtf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 02:57 PM |
| 3 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersIsn't worth saying you "had sex" if it wasn't a good experience tho or negatively impacted you but I'm hoping no-one would risk knowingly getting hiv/aids for potential pleasure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 05:28 AM |
| 2 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersWhy disgust and self awareness? You weren’t into the person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 02:55 AM |
| 4 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersMy point is that sex is rated so highly as if every time those having it meet someone there is mutual attraction/pleasure and both parties are responsible, then it can be amazing. But many instances are not like this and end horribly. I'm sure even those that "can't get" it could sleep with dirty homeless women or people that are seriously unattractive or prostitutes or other mechanisms. But sex at all costs isn't worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 02:49 AM |
| 5 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersTrue, I can't imagine that I'd be terrified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 02:43 AM |
| 6 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersI get that part, but waking up in some randoms bed is what I can’t understand personally. That’s scary! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?YES! I’m not into coffee dates as I prefer organically getting to know someone and what they think. I agree the pressure of a formal date can ruin the experience of getting to know someone. I don’t need anything fancy though and but it’s nice. I also have my own money so paying for myself isn’t an issue. However, good looks, money or certain professions won’t make me overlook shitty personality or character flaws. I hear so many guys think good lucks = amazing life. Yet, I’ve seen so many extrem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 02:07 AM |
| 11 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersWhich is responsible and don't let anyone make you feel bad about it. You are disease free, no worries of illegitimate children/paying child support, no ruined relationships and additional drama - sex is so overrated. I'm celibate and single happily for the stressfree perks. Edit: To whoever downvoted me, having standards and prioritising yourself is smart. Having sex once can change your life trajectory so it’s responsible to engage in it cautiously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 01:50 AM |
| 2 | Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women?Yes. My ex wasn't the most attractive person ever but to me he was because of his work ethic, intelligence, confidence, authenticity, extreme musical talent , laid back and deep conversations made the chemistry sky rocket. He's really good at meaningfully connecting in a way that guys who were more conventionally attractive weren't. We just clicked. While the guys I'd dated from uni were more attractive and spent more money trying to impress me I didn't have a strong attraction as they seemed la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 01:38 AM |
| -1 | Women with dating apps, how often do you match with top 5% of menSome men are weird. Hot with no info would a redflag and swipe no. I legit go on tinder to remind myself why I'm happy being single and missing nothing every now and again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 01:22 AM |
| 18 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersThis is so true. I watched this documentary on STI's and the number of guys that knew their partner had one but still had sex is disgusting. No sex is worth getting a STI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 01:15 AM |
| 2 | For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partnersAren't you scared? How is that possible? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 01:12 AM |
| 2 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?Well it's hard to prove someone's count so that's already an issue. Not to mention following a correlation is flawed but you can do what you like. But if the factor driving people to divorce is actually partially driven by not being religious or being asexual those are factors to consider. There is no 100% guarantee with marriage. Divorce isn't automatically a failure and remaining married to an awful partner isn't a success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 11:39 PM |
| 3 | There's two ways to get women to have more children, the carrot and the stick, which is a better plan?Except most teachers and academics skew left. So they are still imparting knowledge and exposing these kids to a variety of beliefs. Not to mention conservatives can't force their kids to remain religious. Not one of my three siblings is religious despite my parents best efforts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 12:00 PM |
| 6 | There's two ways to get women to have more children, the carrot and the stick, which is a better plan?We have billions of people the world will be fine. Even if humans vanish the world will still exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 11:58 AM |
| 2 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beWhat’s the point though? Fundamentally what value do they serve? I’m not going to spend time and effort for something with last a couple years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?While those terms exist they are all fairly recent whereas the other terms are common in language. Also I’ve rarely heard anyone say them in real life. I think being cheap does impact you as a woman but differently and not as much in dating. My friends that spend more splurge on memberships, plastic surgery, makeup, flattering clothes, nice shoes, getting their hair done, nails done, skin care etc. For many attractive women they spend lots on upkeep an maintaining their looks. They also date mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:59 PM |
| 4 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beBut you can see why if you’ve grown up in that environment you aren’t that interested in recreating it. Especially as many young people reject religion and tradition you need to find incentives for people to get married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:54 PM |
| 2 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessI agree. I don’t think either gender should settle as it’s a horrible strategy long-term. Not being attracted to your partner or having huge incompatibilities makes things miserable. Men that aren’t happy with their partners often do the bare minimum and are easily tempted. Woman that unhappy equally look for support elsewhere or nag and often develop resentment and divorce. More people need to accept and find peace being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 07:49 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Then what, go to college? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 06:35 AM |
| 12 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to beI know so many separated couples who on paper are married but live completely individual lives separated from one another. They only remain together for religion, kids, community and assets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 06:15 AM |
| 1 | Addison Rae's dads behavior show why women shouldn't commit to guys when young$50k is enough for retirement depending on your location, money management, long-term thinking, decision-making and many other skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:54 AM |
| 7 | Addison Rae's dads behavior show why women shouldn't commit to guys when youngYep. Take care of yourself first and foremost. Whenever I hear redpill men say women should lock down partners early I feel they prey on women's stupidity and naivety. If you date a guy that values you for your prime looks, fertility and beauty you can bet he will be more likely to replace you age(also after kids as that can impact your body) once he gets an opportunity. Whereas the guy open to dating or marrying you at 30 or even 40 is less likely to prioritise looks and other short-term featur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:53 AM |
| 9 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessI'm sorry that sounds awful. Think many guys use women in relationships and its awful. <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:45 AM |
| 1 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessThats both parties though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:37 AM |
| 2 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessThe statistic without any context seems really meaningless. If your partner cheats on you but you initiate the divorce its not your fault the relationship ended. Or does the woman do more of the paperwork. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:36 AM |
| 1 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessYep. Which is why neither should be salty about losing their wealth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:34 AM |
| 5 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessYet, with all that you can't attract someone you deem good enough so maybe she's not wrong. In all fairness couples love to shame single people and often being single can be an amazing strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:31 AM |
| 2 | So Many Men Leave Their "Starter Wife" After SuccessI think it certainly happens but I'm not sure how commonplace it is especially as men marry older. I don't think many women consider it honestly most people I know getting married are just excited for the experience and have barely thought long-term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:27 AM |
| 3 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherLol you seem so bitter. Why would you care if thats how some women want to live their life whether its from sex in the city or not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:22 AM |
| 2 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherMost men have no gold to dig :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:17 AM |
| 2 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherNot to mention you can read something and consume it without agreeing with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:16 AM |
| 0 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherCan you cite a post or where you found that info? Or by gold-digging do you mean expecting a guy to buy you dinner when he asks you out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:16 AM |
| -1 | TRP behavior and modern women behavior are mirror images of each otherCan you actually cite what about fds ideology is hateful? Also can you explain what their strategy is and purpose? I don't think the primary focus is being "desirable" rather high value and being able to vet dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:11 AM |
| 5 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?Correlation is not causation. It's more likely that people that wait till marriage are religious, and/or traditional where divorce is not allowed except in extreme cases. You'd need to control for these factors to have a full understanding of what drives the potential association. I'm not religious so if I marry someone and the hit me once, are abusive, cheat or any of my deal breakers I'd be out the door. I have my own money and so leaving is an option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?Are you married? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:58 AM |
| 0 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?Do you not think their age makes a difference or other contextual factors like family, self-esteem etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?Is your issue with casual sex or high count. What if you have casual sex with an ex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Question for Women who have undergone surgery to enhance their looksTo me it's kind of like wearing make-up, getting your hair done or many other things we do to look and feel good about ourselves. In moderation these things can enhance what we already have and demonstrate that we care for ourselves. It's nice you are supportive of your wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:38 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Damn only 3. My ex had probably 80%+ of these things (plus had many other great features). But I think guys with these qualities typically don't stay single long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:31 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?You can do both. I know guys that do. But the more intense your degree is and more committed you are (especially STEM, Law etc) the less time you'll have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:28 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?I agree with your points for everyone! I'm slightly more flexible with jobs as I don't always think making more money is necessary if you've been able to save, invest and grind early you might not need to work that excessively in your 30s+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:25 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Also the opportunity cost is much lower for those in poverty especially with leaving a job if something goes wrong (disabled child or bad pregnancy). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:21 AM |
| 2 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Not necessarily. It could be drama with ex's or emotional issues too. Those can be quite dangerous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:18 AM |
| 2 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Exactly their is a huge difference. A manchild usually relies on others whereas a wine aunt does not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:15 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?This exactly! It's not that hard seriously. Sounds very entitled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:14 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Yes it should apply to everyone regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:12 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?This is fantastically written and highlights my sentiments so well. I'm also a quirky woman and childfree. My type are guys that are more quirky and I'm not as preoccupied with societies rules but it doesn't mean I'm irresponsible or unwilling to invest in improving myself. I want to retire early and don't feel attached to a white collar job forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Why are divorced and widowed men more likely to remarry than divorced and widowed women?In my country a full-time domestic labour/maid would likely require $80,000 salary so it's not cheap universally for one. Also women's domestic labour extends beyond being maid's they provide emotional support, they arrange men's personal lives (buying gifts/cards), they carry/birth children which can hugely impact their physical/mental/emotional health (FOR FREE), they usually do most of the personal admin in families (kids teachers, doctors appts, friends, sports), do most of the cooking (prep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 02:01 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?I think you hyper-focus on a certain demographic of women potentially because they are hyper-visible (on social media) or they are your type but you a resentful (not exactly sure). I'm in my early twenties and ALL of my friends (and myself) date for guys that have their shit together. The only exception is the guy is currently studying otherwise most of my friends have their crap together. Many of us own property are educated and looking for more serious relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:40 AM |
| 2 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Exactly, this is why most guys in that range don't care about women having their shit together! They usually are just trying to hookup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:36 AM |
| 2 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Damn someone that's smart and has long-term planning which are both attractive qualities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:34 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Not necessarily. It depends on the kind of partner you want and life you are willing to settle for. My ideal situation would be two people coming together than both have their shit sorted out. I think it reduces relationship instability and problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:30 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?No. Go join a church or religious group that's the most efficient way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:25 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?Yes, this includes being emotionally stable and self-aware. Please go to therapy if you have trauma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:24 AM |
| 3 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?I think a balance of all components is vital. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:23 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?This is cultural though. I'm an immigrant and if the person was living at home to save money or care for their family that wouldn't bother me. This is different from people that stay in their parent's house but don't work, aren't looking for jobs and don't help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:20 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?It depends on the type of partner and lifestyle you want. It's going to be subjective. My personal view for someone that has it together includes: They have a degree/trade; Stable job/career (ideally a pathway); Financially stable (emergency fund + no consumer debt); Owns their own place (apartment or house)/stable housing; Own's a car (unless in a big city); Healthy/In-shape (doesn't have to be six pack or anything); Mastery of adult responsibilities (cleaning, groceries, cooking); Has hobbies/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 01:18 AM |
| 2 | Women here, do you expect the man to plan most/all of the dates when you’re in a relationship?No. You’ll earn extra points and it’s super nice when a guy asks/plans the date but it doesn’t correlate to the outcome. I really like grabbing dinner and talking. Nothing fancy as I value quality time, physical touch and acts of service most (alone or quiet time). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Fair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 12:31 PM |
| 2 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)I hear you and also really enjoy parts of a relationship. Cuddles, amazing sex and emotional support. I have a really high sex drive aswell but only want to sleep with a guy that I love, so it’s hard. But I’m not sure marriage or committing to someone forever is possible. Finding someone I’m actually compatible with is really really hard. I also find relationships can be draining or distracting from find my purpose right now. I’m not sure if the guy is be romantically compatible with exists and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:38 AM |
| 2 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)Having peeked through your comments it seems like you have plenty going for yourself. Yet, sadly society will make you feel that you are incomplete if you don’t have a partner, which can cause so much unnecessary pain. Or aren’t dating casually. Date women if you prefer and try it out but also be comfortable being single as there is nothing wrong with that. Especially if you are confident about it and embrace the freedom and problems you’ll avoid. I’m from Australia and we have this show called … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 11:09 AM |
| 2 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)I agree that in some regards it can be toxic although it’s not indicative of dating broadly and depends how invested you are. But what it helped me with is challenge the notions of dating and sexual relationships as a woman. I find learning about these subjects interesting but realised how much we learn from movies, books, tv shows, music and the media about relationships that contradicts reality. The fairytale of falling in love and living happily ever after rarely exists. Hookup culture is oft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:52 AM |
| 0 | Seeing your ex’s downfall 5+ years later isn’t the satisfaction you think it isI feel relief. Like I dodged a huge bullet. That’s how I feel about every guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:43 AM |
| -3 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.Then be comfy limiting your options or being more likely to be divorced down the track. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:39 AM |
| 1 | If Men Are Obliged to Protect Women from Other Men, Women Are Obliged to Follow Men's RulesNo. Men should no be required to “protect” woman in a paternalistic manner and we should question who the fuck war benefits. Usually military companies and arms dealers run by men. Wars are normally started by men. Men already have a disproportionate influence on laws. I’d rather die than live in a dystopian reality similar to the Handmaid’s tale. I don't want anyone to be made to fight in wars and ideally we'd prevent war at all costs (typically poor people end up going). But until we recognise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 10:38 AM |
| 1 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?I don’t really care that’s my view and they can rant all day for all I care. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:26 AM |
| 1 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?Their content is literally about women even mgtow. They spend hours “ranting about modern women” and modern dating and woman’s standards. I get listening to the content and taking what you need but people get over invested. Most of those guys need therapy and much more than redpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?Nah most TRP men spend hours on dating forums, listening to coaches hating on women and do date in real life. The guys I know would never need or call themselves redpill. They all laugh with me at men who are red pill and manosphere people. Most that identify with those terms are so cringe. I don’t really care if a guy prefers to be single. I think relationships require compromise and that’s not a bad thing. Not everyone is willing or able to be selfless enough for a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?Those attractive men you describe do make sacrifices. Many sacrifice their safety and health dating people casually with no proper checks with no condoms. I’m certain many of these guys end up with multiple child support checks and become failures as fathers. For a healthy relationship both people have to sacrifice it can’t be one person. If only the guy is sacrificing that’s unfair and vice versa. Your vision for life seems so superficial and gross. I think you should distinguish people with su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?I don’t date. But relationships are meant to be mutually beneficial for both parties that have their own requirements. It’s not unreasonable to expect a relationship to provide benefit, and not struggles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:29 PM |
| 4 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldYes, totally although big age gaps over 10 years are still more likely to break up or have problems than smaller age gaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:34 AM |
| 1 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldRight! People underestimate being a decent human being so much as a long term strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:31 AM |
| 8 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldYep. Men are so stupid sometimes and clearly think with their pee pee. If you date someone way younger than you their is a much higher likelihood she’s with you for money. That’s a risk you have to take if you marry with a huge age difference. Not to mention they could change their values or goals within the next 5-10years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:31 AM |
| 19 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldLol fuck that. I won’t have sex with a guy if I know he has kids as someone in my early twenties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:28 AM |
| 8 | Why are divorced and widowed men more likely to remarry than divorced and widowed women?Well I’m mainly interested in public service work so not quite. Also it will fund my early retirement and philanthropy. I’m not family or career oriented. I believe there are more options to life than serving a husband/family or boss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:24 AM |
| 8 | Why are divorced and widowed men more likely to remarry than divorced and widowed women?Good for you. I didn’t assume all men were just stated that being a wife and mother isn’t something that I’m as interested in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:22 AM |
| 12 | Why are divorced and widowed men more likely to remarry than divorced and widowed women?It’s true. My mum works so freaking hard raising kids and doing all the freaking housework my dad does not give her the gratitude or respect for her contributions to his life. It defs has put me off being a wife and mother. Rather use my nurturing skills in my job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:35 PM |
| 13 | Why are divorced and widowed men more likely to remarry than divorced and widowed women?That’s how you know men don’t value women’s domestic labour at all, despite being more than happy to benefit from it. Many guys that complain about their divorces are unhappy that they have to financially value their parents contributions. Some men however seem to value and cherish a woman’s contributions but very few respect domestic labour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?Safe, secure and stable is way beyond resources. It’s emotionally supportive, someone that’s stable who can take care of themselves and someone who you feel safe enough to be with. I like many of my friends don’t want a guy specifically for his resources. My friend dumped a guy from a wealthy family, with a 3 bed family home, that was willing to be provider and was 6 foot tall, smart and attractive because she’s not just looking for money from a guy. She wants someone to share her life who suppo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:26 PM |
| 8 | The reason that the disparity in sexual privilege between men and women is so obfuscated not because there's any real doubt about it, but because of the solutions it impliesLol this 1000% ❤️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:20 PM |
| 3 | [Q4W] Do women get as upset if there are all women at a party like guys do if its a sausageparty?Sameee | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 12:26 PM |
| 0 | Women are absolutely clueless as to how much more difficult dating is for menYep. Many of my friends who’ve dated including myself, our bfs have all been better at domestic labour than us lol. They’ll do all the cooking or make us breakfast in bed. They drive, clean, shop and offer so much! I’ve seen many guys allowing their gfs and wives to hookup with other people while dating (but it’s closed for the guy). So I think things are changing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 12:20 PM |
| 2 | You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship WithThis is so repetitive and boring. I think there is more to a person that being physically attractive like being smart, interesting, similar lifestyle, supportive of your goals, has a good character etc. Many women now date not looking for anything and just see what happens. I don’t think that’s wrong as people aren’t obliged to marry or settle down. Many now accept relationships might not last forever or don’t have to be monogamous even. Also this whole AFBB seems to ignore that someone might me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 12:09 PM |
| 2 | Well funded audio-based dating apps have all flopped. That's proof that personality isn't as important as people say it isI think combination of personality, how someone presents themselves, their character, goals and looks are all important. You can’t easily put that into any kind of app. That’s why for me I think online dating is a waste unless you want to date casually. Can you meet someone online 1000% but it’s hard to find quality and compatible people. It’s much easier through real life interactions in hobbies or activities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 11:54 AM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?No he was trying to get in my pants 100% and was asking when I lost my virginity + heaps of other sexual questions. It was really gross rather than thinking about factors like children, my career, my character / values and other important factors factors like finances/life goals. I was 19 looking for a serious relationship and he kept trying to get me to come to his place. Totally a fuckboy or player - dodged a huge bullet when I think of the guy I actually gave a chance to who was an awesome. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?That’s totally fair and respectable! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:41 PM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?True but context always matters. Like if it was 1 relationship and the other two were in a 3some. Or if it’s 2 but the second one was from cheating it makes a difference. Or if it’s 0 but they’ve done other sexual things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:12 PM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?This makes sense to me. I can imagine for some people this is something important they want to share with another person and you hold yourself to similar standards. Hope you find that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:08 PM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?I totally agree with your conclusion that both too high or low are red flags or points for concern. I value sex and intimacy so it’s important to have a fantastic sexual life with my partner. Therefore if someone is asexual and doesn’t like sex that would be a worry, if they are into purity culture as you noted that wouldn’t be work with my lack of belief and if they just don’t have options but would have slept with hundreds that’s not great. But on the high end it can be a huge turnoff especial… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:06 PM |
| 0 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Fair enough. I can respect that as you’re honest about what you want and you have the right to your preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:00 PM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?I went on a date with one guy that seemed to think it was okay to ask me on the first date and never got a second. He was good looking mind you but it felt like he wanted to determine how naive I was and see what I’d put up with. Literally made it clear to him that it’s information I’d only disclose if I know the person well and only when I’m certain that I’m going to be intimate with them. Not some stranger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:58 AM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Do you make exceptions? Like surely people change and figure out things they like, develop better boundaries and learn. Also partners can have vastly different sizes which can change things like doing anal with a micropenis vs a bigger size is completely different. Not to mention trauma. Like she might want to do something but it’s different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:48 AM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Or you have adhd but yeah I’d agree. :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:45 AM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?I want someone that is compassionate enough to want to know me as an entire person and earns the right to my private life. ly. While on paper the first on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:43 AM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Thisssss! People get obsessed with n counts but then we have to look at the context. The girl with a count of 2 that cheated or the girl with a count of 10 that’s honest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:36 AM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?This is fair and what I think is pretty reasonable in my early twenties. To me 20 and over is really a huge flag that I’d need explanations on otherwise it would be a huge no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:35 AM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?This is totally correct. I’ve meet some guys (and even woman) with low counts for reasons which are unrelated to being against casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:33 AM |
| 1 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?What are your thoughts if someone tried it for instance briefly and decided it wasn’t for them? Like I’d want the context and see if the person is introspective / views romance and relationships similar to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 11:23 AM |
| 1 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?I’m glad you’ve found that. Sadly I can’t relate and really struggle with a reason to live for honestly. Don’t want kids, not religious, dating is draining etc. But hey that’s life. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 02:27 AM |
| 4 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?Wow. I can’t imagine thinking that way about relationships. I hope that doesn’t happen but it’s almost as if your reason for living is your partner interestingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:40 AM |
| 3 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?Damn you were super invested at the very least so I commend you for sorting out your life. I would do all those things but not for a partner as their is no-one that could possibly be worthwhile. But glad you have made a good life for yourself and wish you luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:38 AM |
| 3 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?Interesting and thanks for sharing. It’s strange but do you think that now that you’ve had a relationship you’d be comfortable single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:16 AM |
| 2 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?In what sense? Like you had to lose weight, get a career, save money etc Was this for casual or long-term? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:13 AM |
| 1 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?I know quite a few that met via tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:06 AM |
| 1 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?Yeah, I hate it. While I’m perfectly comfortable socialising I’d rather not honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:02 AM |
| 5 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?What benefit do you get from your partner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:01 AM |
| 2 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?Excuse me, but why would you need 6 years if improvement specifically for dating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:00 AM |
| 1 | What's the difference between men and women who do enjoy dating, and those who don't?Correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I raised other jobs in one of previous comments as obviously more intense jobs exist. But if it’s a desk job and it’s flexible that should be factored in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 04:47 PM |
| 7 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Thanks for sharing. I appreciate your response. It seems quite self-aware and introspective. I'm still in the process of figuring myself out and what I want but it's nice to hear from people that openly reject marriage and traditional relationships / lifestyles as I feel like it's really not for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 04:14 PM |
| 3 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Yeah definitely. Side question if you have time to answer. How did you decide marriage wasn't for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 03:35 PM |
| 11 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?I don't get the last sentence. But women with low counts do care and many are religious. My friends that are religious basically would only sleep with a guy they are marrying. I agree that generally men care more than woman. But in most liberal relationships that I've seen as an early 20's woman, the girls typically have a higher count than her male partner, unless the guy is way older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 03:34 PM |
| 9 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Same. I have had some guys try brag about huge counts which is a huge turn-off. But also I was asked once by a guy on the first date my count and he never got a second one lol. I'm more than happy to divulge my past dating but only once I'm sure that I'm getting intimate with the person and they aren't a random stranger honestly. I find it so personal. It's like asking someone on the first date how much they have in savings and investments - or private financial information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 03:29 PM |
| 10 | Do most women acknowledge the fact they have very high standards and that the man they want probably has way less and doesn’t ask for much from a woman?Why would this matter? How would that line of questioning serve anyone? Men likely have less standards because relationships for them have less risk. Why would I base my standards on someone that has a different risk profile that's illogical? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 03:24 PM |
| 7 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Yeah if a guy is over 10-20 its a redflag. If someone was 0 or extremely low would want to know why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?This is just a circular conversation tbh. I think we can agree the father should do more than just work. But, ultimately it does come down to each couple to determine how much more he should do and what works for them. As I iterated in another comment, for me personally, I'd rather work a typical 9 - 5 office job than be a full-time stay at home parent. Bar some exceptionally intense jobs, to me parenting or caring jobs are way harder and emotionally draining. I also think this conversation is m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV:When dating women, It's better to be an asshole than nice even if uglyNarcissistic and psychopathic people get partners through immoral avenues like lying and are more likely to engage in transactional relationships. So I would say it’s not for me at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Well I wouldn’t look to a biological man to give birth either… a world without men would have much less violence also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Cool. Serious danger usually comes from John’s or other men so that’s pretty reasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:14 PM |
| 5 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenNo wonder most men aren’t attractive to women then lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV:When dating women, It's better to be an asshole than nice even if uglyOh, if your only goal is the number of sexual partners and you don’t have any morals that’s fine. You do you but realise this is a short term strategy with risks such as stis, pregnancy, being accused of assault and long term you can develop a reputation if you aren’t perceived as trust worthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Lol you are really invested in projecting all these scare tactics…or maybe insults I’m not even sure honestly but once again I’m not fussed. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenThere are so many more interesting and worthwhile things than dating I don’t get it. You won’t die if you are single. I think this obsession some guys have with chasing women is a sign of deeper problems. Do you not have friends, books, investments, careers, goals, hobbies and working on excelling to be the best version of you etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV:When dating women, It's better to be an asshole than nice even if uglyI think have boundaries, be firm and able to stand up for yourself. Being an actual asshole if you aren’t super attractive is a really poor strategy long term. Also this can be very cringe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:39 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on Elliot Hulse?Feel bad for all the men who’ve given him money for his courses. He’s basically found a lucrative money supply with disenfranchised men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:37 PM |
| 2 | The idea that red pillers are some fringe minority of basement dwellers commiserating in back alley forums is a huge misconception. Most red pillers are attractive, desirable men who have some degree of success with women.Do you just mean hypergamy? What do you mean by TRP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:36 PM |
| 1 | The idea that red pillers are some fringe minority of basement dwellers commiserating in back alley forums is a huge misconception. Most red pillers are attractive, desirable men who have some degree of success with women.Was looking for this comment. Why would they complain about women or need the redpill? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:35 PM |
| 7 | Having women as friends is basedThank you this. I’ve been friends with one of my guy friends for over 10 years and he’s like a brother. So happy for him and his gf not to mention his glow up in life. I have brothers who vent to me about dating women and I vent about men. It’s not this intense discourse filled with such malice like online. It’s really healthy and nice having friendships with both sexes. It helps with dating and broadening your perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I’m more of a philosophical pessimist or a realist from an international relations perspective. Not saying you should rather that if things get awful beyond a certain point it’s an option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenWhile male competition can be positive drive it seems toxic to view dating like that. Ruins the enjoyment completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Women claim that men in reality do not care about how slutty a girl has been in her past, but then they also go on to defend women lying about their past to not get judged from men, don't these claims contradict each other?I think men care about it more than women 100% although I’ve seen men who don’t. My issue isn’t with men who have a low count and hold themselves to a similar standard of what they expect. Rather the illogical position of men who liberally engage in casual sex but complain women have a high count or are shocked women lie. Like you are benefiting and contributing to hookup culture but then place all the shame and stigma onto women. In these cases I’ll never feel bad or empathise with the guy when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:24 PM |
| 3 | I never knew how bad the obesity epidemic has gotten until I lurked the 18-22 age demographic on Tinder today vs 5 years agoYeah it’s pretty bad. I’ve gained lots of weight during covid and from sedentary lifestyle between work/school/depression. A weird positive is being hit on less but I’m finally back in the gym every morning. I think online dating is like dumpster diving and while you can find some good finds, you have to go through lots of crap. It’s easier to just meet people irl while living my life. But no offence taken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?We are all going to die anyways that’s the only guarantee with life. We have to be ready to accept it any moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that women get their hearts broken by good-looking men in their youth and then settle down with nice average looking guys when they're done with the toxicity?I don’t think you can generalise. I have friends who’ve never dated, other’s that have been heartbroken (some have managed to get even better bfs/husbands afterwards), others who are heart breakers, some that have been with the same person long term and even gotten married. Also I’ve met good looking guys who are lovely and been with the same gf throughout their twenties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:56 PM |
| 4 | Dating is not fun for men, but is for womenWow, what a broad generalisation. It’s like men here project their unhappiness with dating into every post on repeat. I don’t get it don’t you have more important things in your life than girls, dating and relationships to worry about. I just live my life and never go out of my way to date as I’m introverted. But I know extroverted guys and women that love dating, going out and being their extroverted selves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Lol well I’ve studied it to a college level academically under some great scholars, travelled widely, many of my friends have degrees in the subject and have read numerous books/watched documentaries and videos… sooo I feel fine it doesn’t worry me and makes me grateful I don’t want kids even more. There is nothing you can throw at me as I’m pretty secure in my views on what I want from life and who I am. I’ve also spent time considering a multitude of outcomes both positive and negative. If you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:33 PM |
| 0 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Okay. But you don’t know my life situation in all fairness. I will certainly be fine especially as I’m not having kids it’s just me to worry about. Lol worse case as philosophers and stoics say, suicide is an option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksNo offence given you are a random on the internet and it’s your ex I’ll take you statement which a huge grain of salt against the data and logical conclusion. Neither you or I have the full data. Are some women better off maybe but women remarry at lower rates then men post divorce from the research I’ve seen. But logically it also makes sense that divorce is a huge risk financially, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?That’s just a conservative estimate though. I’ve got a decent grasp of geopolitics and international relations actually. Interestingly it’s contributed to the plethora of reason why I’m child free. :’) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I’m not in the US and I’m financially literate. So I’ll be fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?It’s not that much realistically in this economy but it’s a decent cushion. I want to be alone so it’s not really an issue for me. Well that’s good to hear then you’ll know money doesn’t make people happy per se, it’s a tool and I’m using it to do meaningful work/volunteering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Cool, if that makes you feel better about yourself. I’m not really fussed :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Thanks. I’ll probably laugh as it’ll be another decade of not wanting kids and people surprised I’m unbothered. I’ll also have at least half a million in my 30s invested so I’m not worried. But good luck with the whole kid thing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?One minute I get used all the time and the next only an extremely small number of men are wanted by women m … ok. You are all over the place. Well all my friends and I have very different tastes and preferences in guy funnily enough. I know plenty of average and below men get married or have gfs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I’d disagree not sure what propaganda you are referring too lol. My agency is sufficient for me and has enabled me to consider options to have children if I wanted through various means from adoption, fostering, biological (ivf/egg freezing), on my own etc I’m just not interested after looking into it. I also will never get pets as I’m scared of animals. I want to be alone… that’s the whole point. It sounds so peaceful, stress-free and quiet. I have more than enough to occupy my time don’t worry… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Great, glad you’ve grasped a very basic evolutionary psychology concept. Also the data on dating sites is extremely skewed compared to real life as men are like 80% of profiles and women bare more risk in dating. You’ve already contradicted your previous argument about me. :’) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?It’s probably a biological response to ensure survival for the baby and once again great for them. Even if I’m brainwashed I’m happy with my choice and outcome. I’ve weighed both options thoroughly and can confirm this is the one area that I’m certain about to the point of getting my tubes tied. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Given men don’t have periods, don’t have to be pregnant for 9 months, or push a melon out their penis/privates I don’t think their understanding on the responsibility of child bearing is relevant. Also many men abandon their children and don’t pay child support. Not to mention women are the primary carers and many still have to work in this economy… so I’ll happily shirk the responsibility to have children which is not mandatory thank you. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Plenty of parents disagree vehemently and advocate that hitting children should be standard. You can make generalised statements but I personally prefer to say with parenting lots of grey area exists and it’s easy to generalise as people without kids. I’m also careful not to devalue stay at home parents contributions which is often what these conservations end up being effectively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Whatever you want to call it. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to be fearful when considering creating a new life and to not take on responsibilities which I don’t want to fulfil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I said wage slave not man’s slave - read properly. I don’t want my partner or kids to be forced to work jobs they hate for years to live. I watched my mum do it to provide for me and it’s really tough although I’m grateful to her. You literally parrot the same crap we’ve heard verbatim without actually thinking for yourself. I’m working to retire early from a 9-5 gig (although I work for public service lol). So I’m not career or family oriented technically. Not sure how the end of your paragraph… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I haven’t really used dating apps. I met my ex at work and he was a pretty fantastic guy in many ways. He treated me well and we ended on good terms. We weren’t compatible sadly for many reasons like kids, preferred living location, timeframe, lifestyle etc but I wish him the best. I also have brothers and a couple close guy friends that I really respect and admire. I don’t hate men, just critical of men in some aspects and want them to do better. But I’m also open to hearing critique of women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Well good for you. I’m the opposite and have never had an interest or desire in parenting. Babies are cute and kids can be nice but I enjoy them when I can return them and they aren’t my responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I’ve never wanted kids even at like 4/5 years old. Then as an adult I did extensive research and confirmed m it’s not for me as I’d rather focus on retiring early and engaging in volunteering or philanthropy. So many kids and families that need support. I can expend my nurturing energy at work. If I’m brainwashed so be it. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I’m not really fussed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?So are parenting styles. It’s why everyone should do what works for them and not make blanket statements until they reach parenting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Lol my unhappiness won’t be resolved by having a kid(s) and being tied potentially to an awful partner for life. I don’t get the big deal about passing on your genes most of us are average or basic people who will be long forgotten by future generations. You’ve just created a new wage slave likely. Further, it’s not like making a child is a particularly huge accomplishment, especially men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I think it’s something each couple and family should negotiate internally to determine the preferred split. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?But evidently as women become more educated this is shifting and not every woman wants to take lead of the domestic / home duties. I know some of my friends have dumped guys who expect a traditional family. Overall, people just won’t be having children like myself which works best and reduces all the BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:59 PM |
| 0 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?The research in the article below suggests that among married, heterosexual couples in the U.S., a quarter of wives, or about 15 million, are the primary breadwinners in their family. It also suggest that when the wife is the primary breadwinner, 41% of women still take a lead role in housework. Further they are report lower satisfaction than women with spouses that earn more (I would posits the extra income works as compensation for the additional work women undertake). https://ifstudies.org/bl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Even one year olds are very receptive to their environments. I began speaking at like 10 months and my mum would read to me, take me on trips sightseeing, play games to help me with my learning, take me to play dates etc. I also went to childcare some days but even babies value stimulation. No offence not all parenting is created equal. Some parents take time also to read books extensively on parenting, literature and research schools etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?But as I’ve iterated previously you don’t choose your child. You have to be prepared for anything and parents end up staying home for many different reasons which can include children with more problems like behavioural issues or disabilities etc. You can’t assume every kid is the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?My mum worked full-time (and more) and did 95%+ domestic / child labour so evidently your comment doesn’t reflect every families reality. My dad did very little on both fronts. I think both parents working and caring for the kids works best. I would only have kids if both work and domestic was shared (not having kids though). I’m not a fan of the division of labour model personally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Yes. You need to spend time with kids to understand, it’s no joke. I baby sat my cousins and in a couple hours they had broken my apple MacBook Air 😭, spilled toys every where, spilt food on the floor, had screamed for hours and were hitting people/being difficult. I’m sure they were acting up as parents were away and they were tired from travelling but nonetheless it was exhausting. Also typically with kids you have a bigger house and backyard. Not to mention if your child has autism, physical … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I feel awful for her and this is a story that’s so so common. Men routinely underestimate the work involved with kids and for some they are happy for their wives to basically be in charge of everything. The insane thing is women are expected to do most of the home / kid duties and work up to full time hours. My mum did both so well, but she was so exhausted and sacrificed so much. I’m not having kids. There are a plethora of reasons for my decision, but one aspect is certainly the fear of having… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:33 PM |
| 3 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?This is 100% accurate. Office and desk jobs can be very deceiving in terms of intensity. I also watched a video detailing men who would lie to their “wives” about working late/hard but stay back to play video games on their laptops after work or grab drinks with work friends. Exactly both parents need to be involved in raising and caring for the kids otherwise why bother having them. Children are a 24/7 commitment they parents sign up for its part of the job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksBut also for some women they have limited earning power after having kids and raising them. Lawyers fees defs cut into it for certain but it depends how contentious the case is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I think the point they were making is that a job has a clear schedule but the work of parenting and keeping a house never ends. So it’s nice, as you raised, if the working parent helps put the kids to bed and can take care of some chores. But it can be negotiated obviously if you are a nurse, doctor or doing shifts maybe it’s different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:20 PM |
| 2 | So called "post-wall" women are even harder to attractYes and no. My point is maybe some guys won’t like it and others guys might find it refreshing that someone is being straightforward and is serious. It’s nice hearing your perspective and I’m not negating it entirely. I just empathise with women that do it having dated men and seeing the other side. Their isn’t always a nice way to bring up certain dealbreakers early on, especially if they are a stranger. It’s not just about making it clear you want a LTR although that’s important, rather figuri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I think you have to assess every situation individually because everyone has different values and experiences. For example, the type of job the working person has needs to be considered as if they enjoy it and it isn’t high stress or is flexible can be easier and provide more balance than being a parent full-time. I know lots of people that stayed home to parent precisely to homeschool their kids which is tiring. Others might have a child with special needs. Other stay at home parents are managi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:01 PM |
| 3 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I agree 100%. It infuriates me that people down play how difficult and labour intensive being a good SAHP is. I genuinely think minus exceptionally high stress jobs a typical 9-5 office job is drastically easier than birthing, caring, raising kids and a home properly. Any caring work is exhausting emotionally, mentally and physically. As a parent you get no pay, no promotion, no holidays, undervalued and no sick leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Thanks. I’m recovering from covid and exhausted so apologies for my atrocious spelling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:25 PM |
| 2 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?This! So much goes into maintaining a home and sharing chores doesn’t just mean the standard. My mum worked full time but she mowed lawns, did the gardening and would organise fixing things. Even things like taking the bins outside. I think running a home unless you are wealthy enough to outsource labour needs to be divided fairly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?You should be taking your kid outside to learn and explore. You want to help them find what they are good at and foster curiosity as early as possible. Also let’s be honest tech is addictive for many people and can impact sleep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?I think this is why negotiation is critical as you don’t know what kind of child you’ll get. Some kids will be fine with minimal intervention and others need more care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:16 PM |
| 1 | So called "post-wall" women are even harder to attractI think we have to distinguish between how someone feels vs what is actually happening. In some cases maybe the dates are too formal and rigid not balanced with more humane factors. But in other cases people want to have fun dating casually and these people can really waste your time as they aren’t serious. These types of guys really don’t like serious questions about life and don’t want to be held to any standard etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 02:25 PM |
| 1 | So called "post-wall" women are even harder to attractObviously you want to balance making jokes and humour with getting the key questions out of the way. But also dating isn’t something I prioritise and I just live my life and if I meet someone organically great. But I’m super introverted and just try live a simple life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Ours were after school and but their were trips for sport on weekends involving driving a couple hours away and staying overnight for games. Well if you’ve been around kids they get sick a lot and can be tiring so dad might need to pitch in. I very clearly stated it should be up to the couple. For some couples it might makes sense for a SAHM to only do 50% of housework. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?This is a subjective topic quite frankly. Do you have one healthy child and are chill parents? Maybe mum had 4 little ones under 5 which can be exhausting especially if mum is doing the feed at night, shopping, cooking and watching the kids. Are all the kids healthy? Like I know some parents have to do extensive and regular appointments for kids. It really is something that needs to be negotiated within a couple and in some cases it makes sense that mum doesn’t get a time to switch off as she’s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:57 AM |
| 3 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksIt really doesn’t. You’ll be a single mother so dating is hard and you’ll have to split assets. Divorce is not smart for women with children even at older ages unless they are with high earning and financially intelligent partners. But the couple that are good with money tend to have lower divorce rates. So I disagree with your assessment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:51 AM |
| 15 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Well my mum worked full time, did 97% of all the cleaning, made dinner from scratch every night, made us home cooked meals for school lunch, kept up with all our newsletters, our activities, my siblings rigorous sporting activities, helped with homework, went to every teacher night and was on top of everything. The tough thing is children 100% and especially if you do it properly including time to check in on them emotionally etc. I don’t know we only were allowed 1 hour of screens and were kept… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:29 AM |
| 1 | So called "post-wall" women are even harder to attractI’m 22 F and ask very cutting questions while dating guys. Some guys are thinking marriage in 1 -3 years and others are thinking a much longer timeframe that matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:17 AM |
| 2 | So called "post-wall" women are even harder to attractI think you need to factor time into the equation and the biological clock. Also those ltr’s (not sure if they are marriage) are likely to reflect people that share your values. I don’t think it’s wrong for them to date intentionally it will put off people that are incompatible. Also it depends how you meet someone, if you are already friends prior to dating vs a stranger. Not being rude but you aren’t a married man yet. I’m sure you’d want to do due diligence on your partner in a nice way to en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 05:15 AM |
| 3 | Women ‘initiate’ 70% of divorces because women do most of the households admin tasksYet they end up poorer or in poverty after divorce mostly. Also most people in America aren’t wealthy so it’s really not a lucrative strategy long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:49 AM |
| 32 | Do you want a man to do 50% of the housework if you are a stay at home mom?Are you a parent or not? If you have multiple kids their might be after school extracurriculars and appointments. How is it fair that mum has to be in 24/7 for her job but dad gets set hours. I think you’d have to negotiate things and asses. Also what if mum is sick and not to mention she has the kids all day and might want some time to herself some days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Where are all the good men sub has really become toxic.I removed all inline dating in response to that sub. Legit just avoid being accessible now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:42 AM |
| 1 | So called "post-wall" women are even harder to attractThe difference comes down to is marriage your goal. If it is then these people don’t want to waste time and it’s important to understand a full picture. I don’t want to invest feelings with someone that I have fundamental difference with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:38 AM |
| 4 | So called "post-wall" women are even harder to attractActually a serious guy ready for marriage, kids and not wasting their time will appreciate that straightforwardness. Only guys that aren’t serious yet hate those kinds of questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:36 AM |
| 1 | So called "post-wall" women are even harder to attractThey have a biological clock ticking so they likely don’t have time to waste nor care for investing in getting to know someone or have fun if a huge deal breaker exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I just can’t :’) We fundamentally disagree and I’m not going to waste our energy convincing you on feminism, or that idc if men have critique or my frustration of being expected to empathise with others that can’t do the same back. You have your right to your opinion and I have the right to mine, adios. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 02:57 AM |
| 1 | What is more important Physical Connection or Emotional Connection?I agree that hookups are a waste and I’m only interested in being with someone I love and respect. But from those I know that engage in them it seems personality isn’t as important especially if it’s a one time thing. I’m by no means an expert lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 02:47 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?So you know nothing about it but reject it... ok. Obviously you didn't read the pew research that I linked. Also many women go into caring professions despite lower salaries. Lol I never called you a misogynist. Can you read or comprehend basic sentences? I have no issue with men being critical or critiquing women except if it leads to violence. Which it has led to really awful situations. Wow stop embarrassing yourself, I don't respect people's opinion when they've read nothing on a subject, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:58 PM |
| 2 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)Listen carefully. A) I've met men with all those "negative" characteristics you've listed that have hook-ups, gfs and wives. B) Gender equality hasn't failed, it works well as now women have a choice in dating. Women don't owe men or society relationships or hookups. They can have standards which exclude 99% of men and that's life. No-one including men should lower their standards and while we can advocate people be reasonable about priorities it's important to accept people's freedom. If it was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:57 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Can you name any feminists or literature/books they've written that you've read? Also don't be a feminist but to negate its contributions as a civil rights movement highlights we have a fundamental disagreement on reality. This data by pew research below. I think if you consider the data including the fact women go into caring professions like social work, psychology, nursing, teaching to work to help communities at lower pay at higher rates than men. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/0… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:30 PM |
| 3 | If a girl is gonna have casual sex, what kind of guy and why?Aw thank you! Was super lovely of you. <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:27 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?lol its reddit bro. Go read my views on masculinity and men. Tired of re-iterating myself when I've made lengthy comments articulating my views. I have acknowledged that when discussing these issues its from a macro-sociological lens not an individual micro-perspective. (No-one can tell these amazing men apart from the not great ones). Do you know that every year their are special days for men who've served in the military and they get the highest honour. You will never see a mother get that kin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Women statistically are more likely to be liberal or progressive compared to men. Women were the biggest organisers behind the civil rights movement for African Americans. Look at the black lives matter it was originated and organised by black women. So many feminists like Bell Hookes worked hard and advocated for black men's lives and racial issues. Yet, everyday on this sub despite wanting to remain positive I lose empathy for more men, especially those that unequivocally hate women. Makes me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?K | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 12:32 PM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Yep maybe like 1.70 - 1.75 cm. He seems fantastic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 10:20 AM |
| 1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:34 AM |
| 4 | Recent changes to public perception of masculinity have made men, on average, softer, weaker, and less attractive which is partially why so many women are choosing to remain singleWomen are increasingly liking men that have a balance. Can he cook well? Does he know how to put together an outfit and look professional? Does he have friends and hobbies? Has he got a career goal or purpose? Can he apologies? Can he be supportive? Does he have a vision for life? Is he good with money? Can he clean lol? … those are questions in my head which are both masculine and feminine. For women seeking an equal partner they want someone balanced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:16 AM |
| 1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.I disagree. I think women have much higher standards then men but I’ve seen them over look things all the time. I’ve seen hot girls date and fall in love with ugly bums and average guys or old men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:12 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Isn’t that obvious. I’m sure their are guys that reject women that wear revealing clothes or for shaving their head. Some are ridiculous ones like a guys belt I’ve seen but those types of people are rare irl. It’s usually are you able to fit in a professional environment well. Can I bring you to my friends or parents without being embarrassed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:01 AM |
| 3 | 105 men born for every 100 womenYes the coaches are insane and others just opportunistic. Nonetheless they prey on vulnerable and isolated men. No proper analysis of class, background and realistic expectations. So much focus on things outside one’s control which contributes to learn helplessness it’s all very sad. They are obsessed with externalising blame to prevent proper individual self improvement and introspection. Very superficial tbh. Yes it’s such a shame. Like there are small bits of truth enveloped in so many lies a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:58 AM |
| 10 | If a girl is gonna have casual sex, what kind of guy and why?Don’t feel bad about yourself. It’s legit the reality for every 10 guys that are open to casual sex only 1-2 girl are. I think just focus on being your best career-wise, gym, friends, hobbies etc and see girls as a bonus when going out clubbing or drinking - just in the random. Also make friends with girls and be comfortable. One of my closet guy friends is not that tall or muscular but is so easy to talk to, not judgemental and literally got with like 10 girls before settling with an amazing gf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:49 AM |
| 2 | 105 men born for every 100 womenSo many on here are so out of touch and the red pill makes things worse for these people not better. They get fleeced by PUA and red pill coaches online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:40 AM |
| 2 | What is more important Physical Connection or Emotional Connection?For a relationship yes 100%. If you see the guy at work or through friends and get to know him you find out he’s got attractive qualities for dating. But for a hookup this is less likely to work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:37 AM |
| 3 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Fair. I’ve seen conservative men who live in liberal cities complain they can’t find dates. So was just checking. What do you mean by physically. That’s odd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:35 AM |
| 2 | What do women think of muscles on men and which is body type preferred?For long term dating I care 0 about big muscles or being cut as long as the guy is relatively lean or generally in shape. Like can go for a hike and can get around okay. But I’m strict about many other things which I value way higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:25 AM |
| 9 | If a girl is gonna have casual sex, what kind of guy and why?It depends. Lol some hot girls have hooked up with some ugly ass dudes tbh. So you never know. If I was into hookups the guy would have to be extremely attractive like a 10 or close to in my opinion. He would have to be outside my social circle and industry completely. He’d have to feel safe and be financially stable. I don’t like tattoos or signs of danger I.e. drugs. It’s a waste of time though. Between working full time, studying and my close friends legit cbf. I also don’t trust most men to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:22 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Aw same same! If the other person is respectful and I feel like they add value it’s never an issue. Feel so fortunate to be able spoil those I care for tbh! It’s totally my love language since I’m not domestic at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:18 AM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on lying about sexual inexperience to avoid a catch 22?What do you mean they couldn’t manage for months? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:17 AM |
| 1 | cheating while drunk is WORSE than cheating while sober.Cheating is bloody awful period. I’m sorry you went through that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:15 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.I think it’s more about compatibility than attraction or chemistry. Don’t be sorry, being single is pretty great and freeing. I’m investing in the market, finding a career that I love, working on my health, looking to buy a place, and trying to be the best version of me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:12 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.You are doing better than most tbh. It’s pretty important to learn the importance of money, but also note that money is just a tool, and can’t make people happy. It’s not a substitute for meaning or relationships. I’m glad to hear you are more open to philanthropy, and I’m mostly interested in giving back but their is a time and place for everything. But wish you the best with everything! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Women outnumbering Men in college.Not really. Divorce isn’t inherently a bad thing in every situation. Some people acknowledge that keeping a relationship is toxic for the kids or both parties. Maybe we should explore why men don’t go to college at similar rates but I’d argue it’s because they can find well paid trades. Women and men have freedoms, including to make choices that make them happy or even that don’t, but they don’t have to benefit society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 06:02 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Your first paragraph 100%. An example listed on this thread which is amazing is politics. Many liberal women will never date a conservative man or someone with politics they perceive as morally wrong. Women are much firmer on this than men but even some men have this standard. Many guys completely ignore this and see no issue with their views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:57 AM |
| 4 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Omg same! I’m super generous with my gfs and paying for dinner is never an issue. I can’t imagine treating the mother of my child like that, totally agreed. Even when dating guys I’m usually pretty chill about paying tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:54 AM |
| 6 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.It’s so strange and totally think your theory applies to certain guys 1000%. Some find this illusive “virgin dream wife” and then get mad when she doesn’t like sex, expects him to get married beforehand / meet her parents or she expects a religious partner. Or I’ve seen women who are virgins get married in their early or mid twenties than cheat or leave because they’ve never experienced anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:50 AM |
| 4 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.This omg. Men will underplay huge dealbreakers to women and most single people with morals. I will never date a conservative or religious man although I’ve met some lovely men of both persuasions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:46 AM |
| -1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Exactly. Subjective to the point of meaningless. Who down-voted. A term like good can encompasses so many different people that it’s hard to use without qualifying to have a productive conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:43 AM |
| 5 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Omg this especially when you earn enough money to support yourself it’s not worth it. These same guys can’t fathom why women would rather have a job than stay home. Like having your own money gives you the choice to not put up with disrespect and moving jobs is less complicated than divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:41 AM |
| 3 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.If a woman’s standards rule out 98% that’s not necessarily a bad thing. There can be excessive things like I know some girls can reject guys for wearing the wrong colour belt or something minor. But their are many other factors women consider and they shouldn’t settle for any old guy. They want a guy that truly values them and is compatible who improves their lives. It’s that simple. That looks different for every woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:38 AM |
| 1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.No that’s correct. I’m trying to find one guy that I’m compatible with not just settle for any moron. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:30 AM |
| 1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Thanks. I’m doing more of a SlowFI so it’ll take a bit longer and I’ll likely just reduce the days I work and do more volunteering or maybe write a book. Lots of philanthropy projects I’m interested in which aren’t very profitable but FIRE is not for everyone, I agree. At least you’ve considered FI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:27 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Yep. Most guys don’t make it past that pre-screening (95-99%) and some lie. I’ve terminated so many guys before date 1 and within 5 tops. Huge deal breakers. Some are very good at hiding things or lying or are in denial about their traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:24 AM |
| 1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Some great points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:22 AM |
| 1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.I think most women know it’s just they also would rather not settle so they keep their eye in the prize. Also guys that have the full package are typically mid to late twenties at least. In many demanding jobs or careers guys don’t have heaps time tbh. Especially as the newbie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:18 AM |
| 1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.The difference I’d argue for women is it can be the difference between having kids or not. If you waste multiple years in your late twenties and early thirties as a woman it can change the trajectory of your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:16 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.I hear you. I’ve got brothers and a few guy friends none are obsessed with dating since they all have their own personal ambitions or goals career wise. Most could have gfs or if they do it’s someone they are serious about. It’s really sad when peoples value comes from getting laid or the opposite sex. It should be a nice bonus not the main goal. I’m the same completely not interested in dating and working towards FIRE, getting healthy and other things that make me happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:12 AM |
| 3 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.This is untrue for some guys. Plenty of high value guys who are religious or conservatives that want to save themselves. Maybe guys who get married or settle early might overlap with some lower self esteem but at best it’s an overlap not a certainty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:09 AM |
| 1 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.They work. But there is a lot of luck and it’s not easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:07 AM |
| 3 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.This comment is so accurate and wish more people could see it. It defs works but you shouldn’t rely on the app or think it’s like shopping at Amazon. People will be picky and the app monetises desperation in a tipped pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 05:06 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I’m not going to waste time rehashing my points I’ve answered your first para. I told the other guy I didn’t advocate for calling people this way but explained why women do. Their are better terms. You know who men are often fighting in war other men ironically. Many wars are not clear cut into bad guys and good guys - many soldiers are just doing their job. Women everyday give birth and risk their bodies and lives yet don’t feel the need to constantly demand praise for our contributions. Fighti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:57 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?That’s your hypothesis which is fine. There are far worse things than being ugly in this world tbh. I’d rather be ugly than stupid. It’s unfair and more attractive people get treated well or better but life is not fair. People aren’t invested in others outcomes honestly. Some generally believe their is someone out their for everyone. Ugly people do get into relationships they might just have less choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:51 AM |
| 9 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Yes. I find so many men arrogant and casually sexist. The few who aren’t are usually married and locked down asap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:46 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Lol there is always a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:45 AM |
| 3 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Can men get pregnant? Are men typically smaller and weaker than their partner? It’s legit a risk or gamble with your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:42 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.It’s called risk management. If a guy is normal and adds very little value why risk tying yourself to him or being played or being abused. But if a guy is higher value in ways you think are useful it might be worthwhile to take a risk. A high earning guy might be able to afford someone to clean or a guy you think is really attractive might be nice arm candy and better in bed etc. Also there is no guarantee of who good or bad guys are necessarily. Many “bad” guys know how to hide their bad traits… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:40 AM |
| 6 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.It’s fine to be lazy and put zero effort (mental health, neurodivergence etc) but then those guys should expect worse results and fewer options. You’ve put in the work and it’s fair that your outcome should be different. Good luck with the dating thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:33 AM |
| 2 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.You need to define good looking and perfectly eligible guys. You need to define below average women. You otherwise are making a subjective claim which we could go circles debating. Also the part you don’t acknowledge which is important is demand. If you live in a part of the country where men outnumber women maybe those women are actually higher value than you think for instance. Also class matters and background. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:29 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?No-one will tell you that you or anyone else that they are ugly. It’s wishful thinking to believe that will change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:26 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Once again a false equivalency. The Alt-right is an ideology beyond just saying POC commit more crimes. These groups believe in separation of races, often that black people are lesser, don’t believe in rights for LGBTQIA+ and are inherently racist. I think this line of reasoning is stupid and irrelevant as a black person myself. We are talking about dating which is a specific niche not peoples basic human rights. Instead of sticking up for men you should acknowledge that men have contributed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:23 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Lol keep dreaming most people will never say that. Maybe a parent or crappy person but most people will never say that and you are engaging in wishful thinking to hope they will. Especially if they haven’t asked for an opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:13 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Your point holds for men and women alike. I agree most do not which is why I personally am careful and extremely picky. I’m also paranoid about sharing my things with people that hook-up and don’t get tested. But there is no excuse for these people the services are available and if someone did everything safely I’m not sure that I’d fault them. Great we agreed n count is not wrong by itself. Great and we can value different things and have our own beliefs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:11 AM |
| 7 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Based on a study from online dating where 80% of users were men. Also women date people they don’t find physically attractive all the time once they know your vibe, interests, hobbies etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:04 AM |
| 14 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Why do you think she’s below average? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:02 AM |
| 0 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.You have a point about sacrifices. My friend found an amazing guy but has to continually move for his job, he has no degree (army) and he’s not super tall. But he’s in great shape and supportive so they exist. But would I or many of my friends date him probably not given I’m not willing to move for a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 04:01 AM |
| 11 | When the subject of women’s abundance comes up women like to say they have “no good options” but this is nonsense. Women have plenty of attractive, desirable men interested in both LTR and hookups, they are just insanely picky.Paralysis of analysis 100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:58 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?You are under no obligation. But telling them or trying to save their life which is very evident in your example is not the same as telling someone they are ugly. If the person can’t fix their ugliness it’s even worse. You can help them build confidence in other ways but it’s really wishful thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:48 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well religions usually say sex is scared between husband and wife. So usually religious people marry young. Conservatives value the nuclear family and so it makes sense promiscuity is wrong for them. Usually religiosity and conservatism overlap. We have the ability to engage in safe sex and get thorough testing for STI’s. There is birth control. Well some of my most ambitious and successful friends have the work hard play hard attitude. So once again it can be a preference like I prefer introver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:45 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well that’s good to hear. I’m not invested in your life enough but I can tell you are hurting. I think you should look into it but it’s your life tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?Explain further? The social and cultural norms across Africa the continent are patriarchal. The instances where it’s not are extremely rare and usually the product of modernity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:38 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Even if I think someone isn’t attractive to me or they might be objectively not hot it’s not my job to tell them. If they ask me out I’ll say I’m not interested. You really have to rely on yourself and same with being overweight. I know most people won’t be honest so it’s up to me to decide the body I’m okay with. I mean yes. It’s like being disabled or having other undesirable traits telling someone doesn’t guarantee they will be happier. I don’t agree with say their is someone out their for ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:35 AM |
| -1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Of course they exist but they aren’t saving themselves for a partner necessarily. They may be limited by opportunity or interest but they aren’t doing it for religion or a future guy. Promiscuity isn’t a bad thing unless you are religious or conservative. It’s not objectively bad if you are clean, safe and emotionally healthy for either gender. I’ve seen men try to find scientific reasons why it’s bad but usually it doesn’t control for someone’s beliefs or values. You can say you personally valu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:29 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Maybe not now. Can you find some free or cheaper resources. Also you can start saving and maybe take a year off dating just live your life. Work on friendships and family etc. Try read Brene Brown maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:24 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?No I don’t feel superior. I think you are rightfully hurt and have some things which are hard for you to accept or deal with. I just think coming onto these forums and festering your anger about those situations makes things worse. But also it’s your life and getting help can be hard but if you find the right person it can be really worthwhile. Good luck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?Dude I’m African lol. It is very much a patriarchal society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:18 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Sorry no-one but you can use social cues to determine your attractiveness. I also don’t think people have the right to take their anger out on others, it’s not their fault they don’t find you attractive. It’s sad but life is inherently unfair. I’m not having kids in part for this reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:17 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Yeah but you hadn’t pointed the control part out. Lol my point was if someone has already gotten with someone whether that be 1 or 25 guys it’s not like they can erase that… Women are not objects in a shop for men, where guys say this is what I want and women do it. Now it may come down to values or preferences but if your a pretty liberal person politically and socially plus not religious who dates around casually the pool of women that are open sexually is higher by default. Most guys in that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:15 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?You need mental health support it’s really not great to go through some of the things you’ve gone through based on your comments or feels and not seek proper help. I’m sure with a healthier attitude and self esteem you’d have more options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:08 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I hope you get the help you evidently need. Good luck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?Patriarchy is extremely old. Can you provide evidence to support the claim. I’m pretty sure men have been stronger than woman from a biological perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:02 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?No. Men disproportionately are represented in violent crimes from domestic violence, terrorist attacked, gang violence etc. Even if it’s a minority same with the minority of wealthy and powerful men they can assert lots of influence on society. Even if a smaller percentage of guy commit others enable this behaviour and the reality is no-one knows who the awful guys are… We are discussing dating. But I don’t care what you do lol and the fact you are triggered is fascinating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 03:00 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?I’m not disagreeing with you lol. I’m highlighting why we have twice the female ancestors in a patriarchal society. It’s pretty common for elder or respected men in these societies to have multiple wives and other men to never procreate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 02:50 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?There is 0 incentive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 02:47 AM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well if you’ve already had sex you can’t change your body count lol. The other guy provided an intelligent response it’s about what’s in your control. You are so saltyyy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 02:46 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Most women are around 5’4 and shorter. So you are in luck lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 02:45 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well it disapproves the notion that only height is important in attraction. It’s obviously more attractive being tall but guys under that illusive 6”2 can be found attractive to women. Lol if you are a normal guy you have less options that’s life than a celebrity or tall guy but I feel 0 empathy based on your attitude u/RoboAvocado. You aren’t being denied basic rights and having read through your comments you need to get mental health support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 02:41 AM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Of course not all men are criminals but until vetted and proven otherwise we don’t know. So we take precautions it’s not very complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 02:36 AM |
| 1 | How true is this statement: "Women dress to impress other women...This is why generalisations don't work as you are right in a sense. Many women are raised to dress modestly especially those of us from traditional or religious backgrounds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 05:01 PM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well they are sufficient for me and it's my standards regarding how safe I feel luckily. Not really being used for your standard lol your opinion is irrelevant and unwanted. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:34 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Personally omg no. I would never say that. I mostly just told my close friends about sex with my bf lol but I told him. :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:32 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Men don’t want high body count women because they are afraid they won’t measure up.https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/why-googles-high-turnover-rate-is-great-for-employees-and-possibly-even-for-google.html | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Dating apps make misogynist menI mean statistically it doesn't really make sense especially if you consider some people are aromantic / asexual, others LGBTQIA+, some have deal breakers.. But I guess women and men don't think of dating is such terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 03:28 PM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Watched a documentary about this matriarchal tribe: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/apr/01/the-kingdom-of-women-the-tibetan-tribe-where-a-man-is-never-the-boss This example is of women creating their own village and has no men at all (not tribal but in response to patriarchal conditions): http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/03/04/a-matriarchal-village-in-kenya-proves-that-women-dont-need-men/ That's a pretty fair point and if it works for you that's good to hear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 03:11 PM |
| 3 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)Literally agree. Seems like a microcosm of men with a higher percentage of men with issues as the guys I know in real life are nothing like this tbh. Most are pretty confident in themselves and can read basic social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 03:05 PM |
| 2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well I guess biologically those guys are considered more worth the risk. But they get rejected to not every girl is single or into hook-ups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 03:01 PM |
| 2 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)I agree. This is correct especially among educated groups and higher SES. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:51 PM |
| 3 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)You'd probably be annihilated for being so cruel and mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:49 PM |
| 4 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)Yet I continually meet men with all those requirements that can get gf or wives. Some have even managed to have success in their lives. What you are mad about is those men have limited or less options which is life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:47 PM |
| 5 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)This is usually what the core of their assertions are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:45 PM |
| -1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?From the men on this subreddit you'd never know :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:23 PM |
| -1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?That's not a problem... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:10 PM |
| 2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?The truth is that most of the content on this forum is pointing there fingers at the wrong people to fix things. Agree with this 100%. It's very interesting and not sure that I'm necessarily unhappy with it but its fascinating observing people navigating the duality of puritanism and liberation. Not sure what to make of it in totality honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:09 PM |
| 2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Yeah but with your gf in private doesn't count. I don't share guys ever. :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:59 PM |
| 3 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Right. Still it means women are incentivised to lie but that is very interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:54 PM |
| -2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I don't the halo effect is alive and well. Just have to accept most of us are average looking normal people... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:53 PM |
| -1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?lol well most guys are average height or above. So height in and of itself isn't the only determinant. Most women will accept the guy if he's taller (usually with heels) than them. I agreed that height is attractive lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:52 PM |
| -3 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well on this forum you never know what people think. I have heard the most awful things and you seem reasonable. But I think the issue is you'll find women that have experienced sexual trauma sometimes end up having a high count because they don't learn proper consent or assume they have no agency and others respond to trauma by being hypersexual. (Until they can access help). While I think it's fair to expect your partner to be honest it's obviously very hard to determine if someone is honest a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:45 PM |
| 2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I don't understand that strategy. Trying to get more casual sex by shaming women who engage in casual sex is really not a winning strategy. Yeah at least you acknowledge the complexity and don't blame women. The reality is women's pickiness increases with the risk associated with having sex as we bare more of the risk in the form of pregnancy, violence and sti's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:36 PM |
| 2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I think you need to distinguish for hooking up and for relationships. Men have lower standards on average for hooking up and women often have really high standards for casual situation which contributes to the problems in standards. Men value beauty and youthfulness. While you can get surgery but good work like a decent boob job is like $10kUSD / $20k AUD+ with many risks, some women are infertile and some woman can't have children this can't be fixed. Youthfulness can only be fixed so much but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:31 PM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?There is no incentive to be honest and its mostly how women / even men speak often times. Men might jokingly tell other guys they are ugly so maybe ask your guy friends if you want an honest answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:22 PM |
| -1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?They do. It is a direct consequence of men's action and fact they commit violence at higher rates then women. I have experienced and heard of other women's stories. Yep until men's of representation in violence decreases that is the reality. I will always prioritise my safety over some mans feelings that is how I was raised by my mum and dad. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-22/women-rejected-men-on-dating-apps-then-the-abuse-started/10141306 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-55346213… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:20 PM |
| -1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Fair. How can you control those factors 100%. You can be sexually assaulted or pressured. Some women have been ganged banged or molested. Also you might date / marry another partner and things don't work out. Might leave a cheating partner. It's not perfectly in someone's control but I see your point and you have the right to whatever standards like women have the right to whatever standards. I don't agree men value things that are purely in a woman's control or that it makes things better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:12 PM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I cannot relate. Anyways do you think she'd tell your dad if she thought it was small compared to others guys. Like I'm sure if she married him she was comfortable with what he had to offer. Also she's not out here like 6.5inches is great but this one guy that was 7 inches was amazing lol. I think girls might have the most honest convos about it with their gfs if they publicly discuss it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:07 PM |
| -5 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well if you think women are SO privileged dating men and you don't like the downsides of dating women its always an option. I just wanted to remind you that if you envy women so much and think it's great you can date men too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:04 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I don't know how the women know exactly what size it is from grinding other than it feels good. I guess a photo makes sense but once again tinder is primarily men not women (skew is like 80 % to 20%) so it's not indicative of most women. I agree broadly with the finding. But I don't think an inch or so less OR slightly below average means men have no chance with women maybe less in casual dating. I think it becomes a deal-breaker if its micro or super small - especially if the guy can't own it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 01:01 PM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Being polite is just how social norms work. It's like when someone you don't know asks "how are you today?" They don't actually care lol. That's just how many social norms work and people will likely opt to be nice to not intentionally offend someone as their is no incentive for them to be honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:56 PM |
| -2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well I'd wager many guys on here are creepy or scary asf. Maybe women are just trying to be nice and also how often does this conversation come up. Do you ask you mum, sisters, aunties etc. It comes out off women when drunk or women you are hooking up with. It's not just random women in your class or personal life while sober. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:53 PM |
| -5 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?You are welcome to sleep with other men and there seem to be plenty available. You will face less rejection and get more sex/bjs. Its a win win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:50 PM |
| -5 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?The women are just openly being nice. They aren't being honest about what they like Just being lying out of politeness. I don't see the need to tell someone they are ugly or undateable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:46 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?While I agree with the finding generally as it makes sense. A limitation arises in relation to one night stands as how would the average woman know a guys size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:45 PM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?How can you change body count? Also income is in your control if you consider femininity. Or a woman's facial bone structure or race. Why do women have to value things that are in a man's control? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:38 PM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Many men value how pretty a girls face is and yet bone structure is out of control. Or mental illness / disability many guys want a stable partner. Or virginity. Or women without "daddy issues". Have listed a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:37 PM |
| 2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?They aren't 6" or higher which is what the standard typically is but I agreed that height is attractive to women generally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:32 PM |
| 3 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?I think you are simplifying things. For instance: - When someone says they don't care about fame it could mean they want a more reserved life don't want a celebrity. - When someone says they don't care about looks it might mean they don't need a model but desire an average looking in shape guy. - When someone says they don't value money it might be that they expect their partner to have enough money to care for themselves but prefer a guy working on his purpose or mission i.e. guy earns $40k as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:26 PM |
| -9 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?This is beyond stupid. I can't :D What privileges. Being afraid of rejecting men incase they kill or rape you. Being picky as you could end up pregnant and blamed by men for being a single mother if you chose wrong. Men and women being equal relates to rights and opportunities. Men are called shitty because they disproportionately commit violence and harm which is supported by all data. But women are human not sure why they can't also be selfish, mean, cruel etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:20 PM |
| 2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Or it's just politeness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:17 PM |
| 0 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Feel like it's just people being polite and some people believe that as they want to hope the person for them is out there otherwise they'd give up dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:15 PM |
| 2 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Well short men manage to get married. But I think we can be honest and say women are attracted to height... not very hard. But for most women looking for relationships you just need to be taller with heels. You can be short / shorter and get women just be good at other things like music etc. I think many male celebrities aren't that tall: Justin Bieber is 1.75 Zayn Malik 1.75 Zac Efron 1.73 Tom Holland 1.73 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:11 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Sorry just think logically. Most woman aren't going to publicly risk being called a slut by stating their preferences on penis size and how often does that conversation seriously come up. If a guy you actually like is asking you are going to try be nice and most girls don't want to be shamed for their preference. This wasn't huge issue until porn has become normalised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 12:09 PM |
| 6 | Dating apps make misogynist menSadly, agree with this. I try be an empathetic person but I struggle to have empathy for men on these types of subs as most of the guys I know are in relationships or single by choice (type of guys that have enough shit going they don't define themselves by getting laid). Whenever I speak to a guy online that's struggling with dating they typically have signs of poor untreated mental health, really negative attitudes, anti-women beliefs, and entitlement. Yep many guys I think are angry women dar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 11:56 AM |
| 5 | Dating apps make misogynist menYou said that you live in that location because you like your job and your family is there. You aren't interested in spending money to invest in yourself to upskill at all or apply for jobs interstate (you can rent). So basically you've accepted you situation in life as it works for you and should accept the limitations - manage your expectations. You need to work on acceptance in the kindest way possible. No offence my parents are immigrants and like many others moved to a place with barely any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 11:41 AM |
| 5 | Dating apps make misogynist menMillions of men are born into poverty and get gfs or dates. You just have to manage your expectations and accept a trade-off exists if you live in the middle of nowhere which limits your dating pool significantly. If you aren't open to any available solutions when some exist as you don't think the pay-off is worthwhile then it's a choice. You should own it and be proud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 11:30 AM |
| 6 | Dating apps make misogynist menhttps://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/nearly-half-of-u-s-adults-say-dating-has-gotten-harder-for-most-people-in-the-last-10-years/ Even based on research you've made your own dating life very difficult as proximity is one of the biggest deal breakers. Also you don't actually want any solutions just to complain... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Why are tradcons complaining about women joining the workforce, when that's literally capitalism thriving?I hate domestic work. I would shoot myself if that was my job and my husband didn't pay me half his salary every paycheck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Why are tradcons complaining about women joining the workforce, when that's literally capitalism thriving?I'd rather work my job than live with most men and depend on them. Also who wants their romantic partner as a boss they have to depend of for money. It kills romance when you have to ask for money for everything. You get a clear pay check for 40 hours of work and it's clear cut. Your partner will likely take your work for granted and being fired is more complex. If you have a job no-one will shame you for moving jobs or asking for more money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 11:04 AM |
| 5 | Dating apps make misogynist menYou can tell men designed, and owned the product for other men. It's mostly men than drive sales on the app likely. But it certainly speaks to the modern male fantasy of 1000s of single ready to casual date or hook-up at the tip of your finder and makes it seem so easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?Well they are a growing percentage especially as women get more access to education. But I don't think misogyny, sexism and patriarchy are non-existent just because women in Africa and Asia face a much worse and overt oppression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 10:44 AM |
| 3 | Dating apps make misogynist menYou can't look at statistics that simplistically with no context. You can't ignore the fact that many people who are overweight are typically older and/or in long-term relationships and/or usually have kids and/or lower SES (or some variant of the above). You are likely average and I'm leaning to below average. You also have created your own problem through choices that limit your dating pool. Just try accept being single and that you have slim dating prospects - find happiness in other areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?Fantastic example - thanks for sharing. In the West overt patriarchy is not allowed agreed but polygamy is fine as long as you don't marry. Plenty of men, especially wealthy men find ways around this. Impregnate numerous women or having two girlfriends or a mistresses. Men certainly use greater strength, status and more money to their advantage. It's pretty hard to be found guilty of rape unless multiple people are against you. You just can't outright beat women in the West but many men remove t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 10:26 AM |
| 1 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?Says the person who's never read any feminist literature and likely can't name a handful of feminists nor their different positions, books or work...ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?The prison system is a problem created by other men who use male prisoners labour for their personal profit and within male prisons men are subject to violence and sexual assault. Not sure how family courts are biased towards men when considering factors in divorce like men are less likely to ask for custody of their children, are more likely to be breadwinner / higher earner, women typically carry most of the domestic / child labour, women are worse of than men financially afterwards and more l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?Lol don't embarrass yourself. :D Surely you have something more interesting to say... many feminists like Germaine Greer, Gail Dines etc advocate for actual liberation which meant improving the world for everyone. Most people don't even know a distinction exists between pro-liberation feminists and equality feminists. The later simply wants women and men to have equal rights which is boringly conservative agenda. The liberation feminists want to address intersectional problems, reshape and advan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 10:01 AM |
| 2 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?But who commits the violent acts and deaths which males face... other males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 09:41 AM |
| 2 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?It's so funny that men don't realise other men are at the top of this "society" and benefit extraordinarily from it... :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 09:39 AM |
| 2 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?Explain further... Men and women's life is hampered by other men. I think in some instances it's worse for men such as jails but I would say women experience discrimination, shaming, sexual assault/harassment, discrimination, persistent domestic violence and objectification at higher rates than most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?Well I stated clearly men as a group benefit not necessarily always as individual. Not sure if you have problems with basic comprehension. A patriarchal system doesn't have to benefit all men individually to exist, just the men at the top and men as a collective. For instance, we understand history and much of society through men's perspective as the default which benefits men - but it might not help men who are gay or those that are homeless addicts. I wouldn't characterise the split as 1% to 9… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 09:33 AM |
| 3 | Dating apps make misogynist menMy point is no-one is entitled to a date, hook-up or relationship. You have to accept being single if you can't move. Also focusing on the gym, diet or shower are really basic. What your number one priority should be is education and career-wise to advance yourself so you can build wealth. Not only does it make you attractive as a guy but it will make being single more enjoyable. While I know it's economically difficult that's going to be you best bet tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?While the top men may hold the power and wealth disproportionately it does often benefit men as a group - it lends to misogyny and sexism. I think you are conflating being critical with shaming - feminist and women are critical of sexism, discrimination and violence against women which men disproportionately account for at all socioeconomic levels... I don't see what victim is being blamed by me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 09:18 AM |
| 2 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?Well at the top of every society men have a disproportionate amount of wealth and power which benefits men as a group but not necessarily as individuals. Society reflects men in the type of research conducted which is often based on men, how we understand history is through a male lens typically, how most careers are structured which is designed for people who don't need time out for child birth, it's still extremely uncommon for a man to take a woman's name (the alternative is common), men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?Fair enough. I agree but was just noting it’s harder today than historically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 07:10 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Correlation does not equal causation. In the pool of single people it usually includes people out of breakups, people with poor mental health, single mothers, people not choosing to be single etc so it could be that happier and healthier people are more likely to marry. Further, some data shows the opposite as women who are married so more domestic labour and die earlier when married. It’s not as clear cut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 07:09 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?This. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 07:04 AM |
| 2 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?Extrapolate further. I have actually travelled widely and lived in Africa. Just because women have more freedoms doesn’t negate the existence of a patriarchy babe. We might disagree but at least provide an actual contention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 07:00 AM |
| 7 | Dating apps make misogynist menIt’s probably easier not to bother with them… they work for some people I know of some couples that met on apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:54 AM |
| 3 | True or false, women on this sub are more likely NOT representative of the majority of the population but the men on here AREI just ignore or laugh at the sheer delusion 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:44 AM |
| 2 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?It is still a patriarchy just that women have considerably more power and freedom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:43 AM |
| 2 | Is pro-female bias biologically ingrained in us? Or is it cultural?The patriarchy actually does make men disposable because it operates at a group not individual level. In an actual patriarchal society men are at the top and have power but often they want access to the most wives/women which means some men get limited access to women… it’s actually quite straight forward if you look at polygamous societies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:42 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWell if you femicide women and tell them they are less than men their whole lives naturally an imbalance in gender emerges. Women in those countries likely do domestic labour, have jobs and have to realise their own goals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat’s why men that complain about this are gross. How often are you dating where complaining about paying for dinner is such a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?And into societal patriarchal societies. If you look at FLDS church which practises polygamy the elder men that have power amass young wives while trying to get rid of all the young men. It shows how the patriarchy harms men while simultaneously benefiting them as a group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:28 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?You aren’t going to remove all woman’s freedom without a fight and even then forcing women to pair of with men they don’t like is difficult. I for one would rather die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:21 AM |
| 0 | Dating apps make misogynist menMost insane part is other men created tinder… which is why it appeals to the make gaze. Men are angry because they feel entitled to casual sex and women - when this doesn’t happen they never blame men but other women. Men use women as a scapegoat for their own issues with masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:16 AM |
| 4 | Women are attracted to men with social intelligence, which is why you can't understand women's strugglesLol this. Hate being around most guys because I’m a nice person and they actually think I’m being flirty. Especially at work and many women are scared of men so they’ll try let you down nicely. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 05:19 AM |
| 1 | [discussion question] Would you rather be being a EXTREMELY attractive and rich woman or a EXTREMELY attractive and rich man??Men could make bank of they are willing to sleep with men. Jeffrey stars is always calling | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 05:17 AM |
| 1 | How important is a man's physique to women?It depends for dating or hookups. If you want to hookup then being lean and muscular helps a lot. If you want dating options being lean or slim like a runner is fine. That’s just generalisations. I love men that can cook, are intelligent, witty, fun, talented (can you sing, write, play sport etc) and kind/compassionate or generous. The worst guys are arrogant and smart. Literally turns girls away fastest than anything look at many STEM guys. I’ve met guys who’s worst enemy in dating was themselv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Does our current attitude towards sex indicate the downfall of civilization?Feel it’s important to state correlation is not causation. It’s an interesting study but doesn’t seem to properly control variables and fails to give us confidence in what drives the outcome concluded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 05:06 AM |
| 1 | There will never be reconciliation between genders, no nature or dating market will not "correct" itAgree. There is no issue to correct it’s just life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:54 AM |
| 1 | If you expect men to pay on the first date, then you don't get to complain about the wage gap.Stupid. This is a non-issue. Don’t pay on the first date and you’ll weed out women that aren’t into that. I don’t see those two position as irreconcilable as women can give birth and men cannot. Also men ask women out at higher rates so in that context it’s reasonable for women to confirm the guy is stable and expect the person who asks/could impregnate them to pay. Also women tend to wear heels, makeup etc. I pay for gfs meals and buy them gifts so if a guy can’t show me an equally good time wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:51 AM |
| 4 | How do normal people pair off?Agree except I’m “ethnic” but not traditional or religious and childfree (kids are a dealbreaker) so I’ve accepted being single for life since like 5. Have always admired my single aunts. It’s pretty hard to find childfree guys that are down for FIRE and also I’m introverted plus no drinking, smoking or drugs. Politics is also important. I’m sure the kind of guy I want is extremely rare😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:44 AM |
| 3 | True or false, women on this sub are more likely NOT representative of the majority of the population but the men on here AREOr lol the guys that say it doesn’t matter what a women’s career is but then complain when she’s a SAHM so they have to pay more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:35 AM |
| 19 | Dating apps make misogynist menWhy do people feel entitled to go onto a dating app where 80% of people are male and expect to get plenty of women. Like I think we need to manage expectations and advise people to stick to dating irl. On an app people are going to be extra picky about every minor detail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?k | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 04:07 PM |
| 0 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?This is simplistic to meaningless if you don’t factor aspects like what is your job, are you dating college educated or non-educated women, what are your assets, how attractive are you, where is your job located, do you have children or want them, are you religious/conservatives, your age etc Also what kind of girls are the guys making $80k going for is she also above average in looks and has her pick? Or is he going for anything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather be in a relationship with someone hot but poor, “below average” but ambitious and financially secure, or be celibate for the rest of your life?I'd need way more information as I'm attracted to interesting and passionate guys who have purpose in life over purely good looks or financial stability. Personality I'm not interested in vain people or those motivated purely by money. Too superficial. Would likely be celibate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 01:10 PM |
| 4 | What age does pretty privilege run out for women?Many of those women have stunning faces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 10:55 AM |
| 1 | What age does pretty privilege run out for women?*reddit men Fixed it. Some women probably do become invisible at 30 but the whole concept is derived from redpill men and manosphere. I've never heard a woman in real life discuss the wall although many are preoccupied with aging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 10:53 AM |
| 2 | How were you treated differently when you got fit? (men and women)People are so much nicer and certainly superficial. I think you have to experience it. But I hated it so much. As an introverted person I like being invisible and don't like having to reject people. I only want people around who actually value me rather than looking for a hook-up or leveraging off me. I also struggle to hide my body due to big boobs. I wear anything baggy I think strange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenCool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/22 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Why are women so much pickier when it comes to men than men are when it comes to women?Typically single mothers have lower IQ’s and the higher your IQ the less likely you are to have a child out of wedlock. So that skews things quite a bit. Further, IQ is related to socioeconomics status and it’s rare women from upper class families are getting pregnant before marriage and usually parents intervene in these situations to push marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Why are women so much pickier when it comes to men than men are when it comes to women?Have you seen spermicide bank requirements, damn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 12:00 PM |
| 6 | According To A Study, Women Are Actually Happier With Less Attractive MenWhat happened to all the men that complain women chose bad boys and the wrong guys. So we are too picky in one breathe and in another we aren’t picky enough. It’s like choosing men is some complex science we can’t win. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 11:45 AM |
| 18 | According To A Study, Women Are Actually Happier With Less Attractive MenBeats having multiple kids, partner you don’t like and being financially stuck… 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 11:44 AM |
| 2 | Does the average guy really not get casual sex?Yep. It’s anecdotal evidence and people of lie or don’t provide all relevant information. You likely find any data from here is statistically insignificant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenIs that meant to be offensive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:56 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Well society has changed so women have a choice in how much sex they have and so expecting low n-counts today is ridiculous for those who aren't religious / conservative / unattractive / socially awkward / young etc. Not saying people with low counts don't exist or that it can't be a preference - just that it's much rarer these days as their is no incentive. Another important point. Just because they exist doesn't mean everyone can easily access them. I also have met high value men "10%"? I have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doWell luckily you don’t have to date them ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?Misogyny and sexism isn’t cured by mental health services. As you can see when women are being killed it’s difficult for people to spare empathy towards incels so they can date. Many also have issues and struggle to get help. So many addicts, people living with trauma and abuse. The world we live in is broken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?If you are introverted and not socially skilled or attractive it can be unfortunately hard. Also many people are also not mentally healthy or mature. Exactly. That’s a smart way to think you should look out for the women closet to you. I don’t have to empathise with every guy in here I barely know them but I have brother or guy friends and try be compassionate towards them. I try not to be resentful to a gender just because men have done awful things to me. Wish you the best! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?r/seduction? Have you seen a psychologist? They might help you accept sexlessness in a healthier way. Even like a decent male if you don’t feel comfortable with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?It doesn’t negate their very real threat to others. Elliot Rodgers technically killed himself so all suicides are not equal. I’m kind of confused about your comment. Men do frequently kill women it’s just rarely do they write a huge 141-page document manifesto about it and get heralded on 4chan? Also when you highlight that men frequently kill women you provide another reason why women really empathise with men. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43892189.amp | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:47 AM |
| 0 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?I mean do you not have sisters or friends of the opposite sex. Like surely women don’t need to understand every single male problem to be supportive and want men to overall be healthy. Not saying it negates the need for gender/sex inclusive spaces to discuss experiences. Sadly many of these spaces become toxic if only people that have experienced trauma are in those groups or those ready to exploit those individuals. Well that’s you as an individual making a choice. Mutual empathy for men and wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:39 AM |
| 2 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?Seems like many guys want to have their cake and eat it. I don’t have sympathy for people (men or women) who can’t engage in hookups or miss out on decent relationships due to hooking up. I think hookup culture is problematic but people that engage have to also accept the risks that come with those choices. Might end up alone, might not find many cute girls to get with, might be a bad time and you might be judged that is life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:31 AM |
| -1 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?I don’t think that’s an issue per se. I personally think many young guys that aren’t religious also wanted to have fun in their twenties and don’t want to settle. I was raised in Christian circles and those men never struggled to find wives and settle down early. Most dating issues are linked to people that aren’t very religious or don’t have any faith - also aren’t conservative. This is further entrenched by poor economic opportunities for young people whereas couples could have kids and settle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:17 AM |
| 1 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?It’s because many had very terrible players involved or ended being a breeding ground for misogyny, sexism, hate speech and violence. The mens dating subs were linked to many negative things for platforms but you can see them in droves in YouTube. I can already see r/menslib, r/mensrights and r/askmen are places predominantly for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:09 AM |
| 1 | I believe the main problem in dating is the unwillingness from both gender to listen to one another.How does listening change material reality of dating? Like I’m happy to support or validate some things men say and others I find downright offensive. But just generally talking isn’t going to change much if their is no overarching goal. I also think there is a danger in being exposed to this side of reddit as it has exacerbated my fear of dating men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 09:03 AM |
| 2 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?I agree, I think economic, social and political instability as also exacerbated dating issues particularly in the context of the pandemic. It makes dating undesirable from so many avenues especially with wfh being more prevalent. I think pushing for economic and class reforms which help everyone are the best way to address dating. Many young people live at home and policies that target that would be most useful I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 08:51 AM |
| 3 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?Yes, after they were linked to people committing acts of terror and considered very dangerous? For all the complaints about feminism you’ll rarely find an Elliot rodgers equivalent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 08:44 AM |
| 6 | Women who go for hot men and get pumped dumped and average men who get rejected by most women are the sameProbably dozens of other guys like yourself now for them to try. Like it’s not this big flex and many girls will forget you exist unless you are exceptional like an athlete. Not trying to be rude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 08:42 AM |
| 2 | Women who go for hot men and get pumped dumped and average men who get rejected by most women are the sameThank you. Feels meaningless when the terms aren’t operationalised and used consistently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 08:33 AM |
| 3 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?Why do you need women to validate these feelings? I feel like as a woman I go to a therapist, my mum, books and close friends for validation of problems dating. Then I go to all female spaces or female written books - rarely do I go to men as I don’t expect them to understand usually women issues. The only reason why it’s necessary for me to empathise wth rape, abuse etc is they are the primary demographic accused of these issues. So women are seeking to change mens behaviour. What exactly are y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 08:28 AM |
| 2 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?My point is both genders have struggles and it would be beneficial people provide mutual support. Your second point is more a projection or assumption. I’m not sure their are many decent alternatives and a trade-off exists. I don’t see how you’ve concluded an issue exists nor have you commented your proposed solutions, both would be interesting for you to expand on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Does the average guy really not get casual sex?Many people think they are average when they are under-average or have issues like autism, anxiety etc which can skew normality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 08:12 AM |
| 0 | Does the average guy really not get casual sex?This 1000%. Wish more guys realised this but it’s hard to accept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 08:06 AM |
| 4 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?The problem is these individuals that get radicalised aren’t going to therapy and finding acceptance. They are trying to coerce women into being with them. That is why we can’t sympathise because it feels embedded in an expectation that if women empathise we will have to fix it against our own interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 07:59 AM |
| 7 | Why are men expected to not be upset about their dating struggles?You are allowed to be frustrated but it doesn’t mean you are entitled to easier dating or that you can externalise blame onto all women for having standards. Many men also need to realise men and women have different dating strategies and struggles. While dating may be hard pregnancy is pretty damn hard, periods, sexual assault, physical assault etc. I think it’s also emotionally draining hearing mean complain when the reality is dating is inherently unfair and isn’t always enjoyable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 07:51 AM |
| 1 | The only way to success with womenI think that’s why she framed it as a question not a statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 04:21 AM |
| 1 | is it that impossible for women to believe that?It should be hard for men to get sex you are asking a woman to risk her life, safety and getting pregnant so most are cautious. Also noting women are still shamed by men many have to vet. I’m not sure I understand your problem? Like when we want men to empathise it’s because we no longer feel safe due to legal body violating us. Whereas you seem annoyed that individual women don’t want to date men but aren’t guys the same ones that get mad if a girl is “easy”? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 04:12 AM |
| 6 | According To A Study, Women Are Actually Happier With Less Attractive MenIt’s probably an average. $80k isn’t the same everyone nor does it reflect current inflation or unique circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD, would you rather looksmaxx to become a pretty woman or be a handsome man?I’d rather just invest and work towards financial freedom. I think beauty is a depreciating investment whereas health and general self care/wellbeing is worthwhile. Most guys don’t realise most pretty girls are broke since they spend so much money on upkeep. Being pretty has huge pros but you’d never want to rely on it or define yourself around looks - they are fleeting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Question for men and woman: what careers do you view as a redflag or dealbreaker in the opposite gender when it comes to datingAgreed with this 100%. Also these circles are preoccupied with status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Which scenario would you pick?Number 3. Not a hard choice as I don’t want kids and want to just be left alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:37 PM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?When I say “okay or fine with it”, I mean you accept that is a risk women will lie or conceal their true count. You can not easily prove or disprove someone’s count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:35 PM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?I mean do whatever you want and you are entitled to preferences. I just think its unrealistic for non-religious people but if you are willing to wait or accept being lied to then it’s fine. I’m not religious so personally just going to do what I like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?I mean one of my friends was with her bf from ages 17 till 22 - almost five years. She wanted him to propose once she graduated but he decided to dump her after she’d been loyal to him and lost her virginity to him. Same with another girl I’m friends with lost her virginity to her first bf only to be dumped that same year. Both are really smart and hardworking loyal women that were really heartbroken. My mum is also a “good” woman (topped her university, got a scholarship, speaks 4 languages, wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?Interesting and I agree with that. I’m not into dating personally but I find human behaviour interesting - so I should be safe. Have a good day. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 02:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doSorry think my comment went to the wrong person. Please disregard! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 01:59 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......The institutions are not against it they just pretend because it looks bad. In reality people often blame victims and try hide things like this because it makes people u comfortable. Also certain guys know they have the financial backing to get good lawyers so getting a conviction is even harder. Women victims can end up pregnant and having to raise a child that reminds them of their abuser / rapist for the rest of their lives. Raising a child can cost around $200,000 so while men pay child supp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Do you have any backup plans if your dating life collapses?What does “failed” mean. I’ve gotten plenty of experience. No resentment that I’ll likely die alone or live alone for the rest of my life. I’m extremely introverted so I’ll just be using my money towards buying a place and retiring early. Enjoy my own company plus have family and friends. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 12:55 PM |
| 1 | What are single post wall women like?Can also be asexual or aromantic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Women will settle slightly if they’re running out of time to get marriedI mean not every woman is the same and some prefer being single. I’m super introverted, don’t want kids and financially stable so I wouldn’t dare risk that at 30 or whatever time just to get a guy. But we are all different. I need loads of alone time though compared to most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Would you date or marry a single mother or father?No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Women of PPD. How many of you are single?I don’t get the bitterness towards the other gender and think it’s sad! I don’t want to date men atm but doesn’t mean I hate them. I have brothers and a few close guy friends and don’t hate my ex either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Glad you agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:30 AM |
| 2 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenFair. I cbf dating and forcing interest in a guy. But good luck with dating, hopefully you find girls you find attractive for dating! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 11:02 AM |
| 0 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenAh, but why bother with them? Surely if you aren’t into them it feels like a waste of time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:40 AM |
| 0 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenIt’s called Peyronie's Disease. Glad to hear you are okay in that department. Also why are you engaging with women that attractive to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:28 AM |
| 1 | High N count vs low N countNah means we aren’t religious usually and so are more likely to consider divorce an option | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:23 AM |
| 2 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenProbably more reliable and quicker too. I’ve heard weird things happen down there to guys who masturbate a lot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about MenMy fingers are better… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?Love really is blind. I think that’s why trying to measure things on a number scale makes no sense because connection, interests and proximity or love can impact you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?Who do high value men fall for then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:06 AM |
| 1 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?Usually good women get taken for granted. Have heard so often that “good” girls find great husbands etc. My friends that are loyal and not materialistic have had huge heartbreak. The friends who have cheated and or a savage in dating seem to have better luck dating tbh. sure their are men that have experienced the same but haven’t seen it happen yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:04 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doYou don’t have to date them. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 10:01 AM |
| 3 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doWhy do you care whether they are alone or not, happy or not or have standards or not? Seems like your just mad women that you think aren’t attractive have standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:58 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doIt’s smart. I’m not interested in dating but if I was it would be so important to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:57 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doI don’t see how that’s your choice or why you feel so invested in what they do or dictating to them what standards they should have. If they want a certain type of guy that’s their prerogative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doYep this is exactly the point. He won’t say it publicly but he’s angry they dare have standards which he either can’t meet or doesn’t feel needs to be meet for women like them. That’s why I keep asking why he cares. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:49 AM |
| 2 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doSuch a delusional rationale. One of my friends is model level stunning. Dumps every guy and struggles to date because she has so many options but she’s also really smart and can support herself financially. She basically won’t look at a guy under 6 foot, who isn’t extremely attractive and has a good job / comes from a good family. She’s told guys before she’ll only date them if she can have an open relationship so keep dreaming 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:40 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doYou underestimate the kind of men women can and have attracted in their lifetimes. Even for one night stands or casual dating/sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:37 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doI want to know why these people care what people in FDS do. I won’t post on the substance because people can have whatever standards they like. People from all backgrounds and looks have the right to standards even if they can’t find someone who meets them. Seems odd to fixate on peoples standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doThey aren’t going their own way so why would they. I don’t understand why you are so invested in fds it’s like they personally triggered you by having standards and you feel like it’s your right to tell them what they deserve. It’s odd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doWhy do you care? It doesn’t remotely concern you quite frankly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:32 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doLol. If you can pay your own bills and are perfectly fine single of course you can have whatever standards you like. You are so funny and your advice sounds so bitter. Why do you care? Why does it bother you so much that people have certain standards and may never get that? It’s not out of compassion or concern, so what is it? Seems like you want to make yourself feel better or convince women to date guys they don’t want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:30 AM |
| 1 | How do girls not find guys who ask them out after just meeting them creepy?I reject them. Then wait and see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:26 AM |
| 1 | Voluntariliy single/celibate people: How do you get your emotional intimacy needs met?Love this. I feel like when alone I can be my most authentic self. I can relax it’s really beautiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Voluntariliy single/celibate people: How do you get your emotional intimacy needs met?Friends. Mum. What is touch deprivation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:24 AM |
| 1 | who is this 'Chad' bogeyman guys have invented?Hopefully he was over 18 otherwise that teacher shouldn’t have a job tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:21 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Low n-count if you aren’t religious is a really ridiculous expectation and likely very hard to find. Women that value low n-counts are typically religious, asexual or very conservative - mostly a minority. This equates to women’s specific standards but men are more vague. This idea men want cute or decent looking is a lie. Many men (not all) want very attractive wives who are preferably hotter than themselves. Someone they are proud to be seen with. Not naggy and easy to talk to is subjective. L… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:16 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Are you religious? If not, why does sexual past matter so much? I get if someone works in sex work or has slept with a huge number of people but why else would it matter. Certain guys obsession with it is really weird. Hopefully these guys are okay with being lied to or waiting awhile if they aren’t virgins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:10 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?But men actively contribute to this. If you have sex on the first date then get slut shamed or it wasn’t a good experience why would you do it again. Surely men like women mature overtime. Your actions at 19 or 21 don’t entirely define how you’ll act at 29 or 31. As you learn and mature your behaviour obviously change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:08 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Delusion and entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:05 AM |
| 2 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?I don’t get this view from men who are atheists. Like apart from religion why would I as a woman be forced to wait till marriage. Someone can chose to but there is no compelling reason to and guys benefit from this so why they shame women makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:05 AM |
| 3 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Women leave usually because they are unhappy and overworked. I’m pretty sure the demographic most likely to divorce is older women. They sacrificed to raise kids, help their husbands reach the height of his success and decide they want to finally do something for themselves. They usually don’t remarry whereas the men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:02 AM |
| 3 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Not to mention sacrifices, and valuable time. I’ve seen men waste women’s time knowing she wants kids and refusing to marry or fully commit. Really awful for them to now have to try find someone at a later point and try make kids happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 09:00 AM |
| 3 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Great post. Having met women that can be described as cat lady’s they have such peaceful lives and avoided a world of pain/drama that women in bad marriages ended up. Once I’d met a woman like that while dating a guy that annoyed me it was a no brainer to just stay single (unless an amazing guy appears then maybe I’d rethink it.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:57 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman’s maintenance level changes depending on the man she’s with?Threads like this is why I struggle to have any empathy for men. You can’t make this up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:54 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman’s maintenance level changes depending on the man she’s with?They are such basic requests if you can’t fulfil them stay single and pay for OFs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:53 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman’s maintenance level changes depending on the man she’s with?Why does she need to communicate being cared for when she’s sick. If I have to communicate to some guy to be caring and compassionate it’s done. You can communicate when you have mutual shared values and understanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:50 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman’s maintenance level changes depending on the man she’s with?This is a HUGE issue. I’ve seen how much work my mum did for my dad and it’s turned me off men so much. Very few feel obliged to pitch in fairly in domestic duties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman’s maintenance level changes depending on the man she’s with?She literally asked him to cook, clean dishes and take care of her when sick. If he can’t do that he shouldn’t date any woman. Those are so simple. I can’t believe men complain women reject them but then act like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:46 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman’s maintenance level changes depending on the man she’s with?Those are really basic things and the fact that you are complaining makes me so happy your gf dumped your ass. Dishes, cooking and helping someone you claim to love when they are sick. I can’t believe your take away was if I you were better looking it wouldn’t be an issue. Wow. I come on these threads and am so grateful to be single 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:44 AM |
| 1 | Is it true a "high status" job is required to get a girl to notice you?Being a virgin isn’t a bad thing. People hooking up heaps aren’t bragging about the STDs, sexual assaults, bad encounters. Also surely women in low status or slightly higher status jobs won’t mind as long as your clean, okay on the eyes and easy to converse with / decent person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: women do not "set up" male friends with other women unless he meets a certain attraction thresholdI agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:30 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Depends on what that looks like. Many women end up in poverty because they have to or chose to depend on their partner or families who make poor decisions. I would never trust a man with my financial future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:26 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Men as a group have basically way more advantages then women it’s not even a debate. Especially biologically. Now if we get to individual men we can find men who are less empowered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:24 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Many of us have adverse reactions to birth control | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:23 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Do you know how difficult it is to even get a conviction for rape. Let alone a reasonable sentence for the act. Their was a case in American where a woman’s rape was filmed on a camera, two men saved her and the guy only had to sign up as a sex offender. He should be behind bars for life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:23 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......She can be raped or abused via coercive control. Also guys that engage in stealthing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:21 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......Love how you completely negate the fact that poor women still deal with abuse, periods etc. the shit women deal with isn’t alleviated by earning more money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:21 AM |
| 1 | Why are women so much pickier when it comes to men than men are when it comes to women?Women run the risk of pregnancy, abuse, violence, bad sex, being shamed etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:13 AM |
| 1 | The only way to success with womenAgreed. Being intelligent and having strong earning power can’t compensate for marrying/dating narcissistic and arrogant assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 08:05 AM |
| 0 | Today is just another reason why women should be extremely picky about Menlol I would avoid men at all costs if abortion wasn’t available. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 07:56 AM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?My point was the data doesn’t indicate men are pulling their weight and ultimately women aren’t a monolith rather have varied preferences. I don’t number peoples attractiveness for the most part and disagree with your advice. It’s very difficult to be realistic or objective about yourself and others. Also your standards can be as high as you want if you are willing to stay single. I would say finding someone with mutual attraction and shared values/compatibility is important. No-one should date … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?Well for guys seeking to compensate for lacking in those types of qualities and traits you’ll likely need to make substantially above average to compensate. It’s why you’ll meet some guys with engineering/Computer Science backgrounds that are high earners but repel women. Some compensate via earning or dating women within the field that are similar (not many). Having standards and preferences is perfectly acceptable for women and men. The bar is pretty low for men in my opinion for relationships… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?No, to clarify they want partners doing their fair share of domestic work and emotional labour which the data shows men are not doing. For women that earn enough to support themselves they aren’t dating for a paycheck and will be looking at the whole package. Shared values and mutually beneficial. It’s better to stay single than be unfulfilled for both men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedI think it really depends on the woman and her partner. The reason why having it all is hard for women is they are more involved due to birthing and expectations are higher on them. It’s challenging when they don’t have an equally supportive partner. Many men who provide are happy to come and and leave domestic arrangements to their wife. It’s much more complex. Women are increasingly breadwinners and having to balance both due to economic considerations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 09:12 AM |
| 1 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedYep. These kind of conflicts are so common and it’s ridiculous. Like they want to benefits of having a stay at home wife but none of the risks. Same with men marrying women that work full-time but then get annoyed that she expects equal responsibility for domestic and child labour. Or they get angry when their wife is more successful or ambitious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 09:04 AM |
| 1 | There is not a shortage of single men who have their life in orderI don’t know many single men with their lives remotely in order tbh unless they are choosing to be single. Most guys I know who are single have different priorities. If you have your crap together as a man women will be rushing to lock you down. Where some men struggle is if they have specific double standards I.e. low n count/virgin, stunningly attractive women, certain careers etc not saying those standards are wrong but you need to be prepared to wait forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:24 AM |
| 1 | Would you accept your ex who dumped you and now want you back in their 30s?I think this is increasingly common among men and women sadly. I respect peoples right to enjoy being wild and hooking up but won’t be taking anyone back after they’ve hooked up with someone else. Also I take commitment seriously and give my all in relationship so if we breakup I’m done. Usually things are irreconcilable romantically. think every woman or man has this right to reject partner or people like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Men struggle with dating and sex. So, what women struggle with?All the above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?I mean you have the right to feel that way but there are plenty of successful men who have no issue dating after building wealth. It’s a personal preference thing. Also you might find someone with a similar success story. I would feel the same as you as a woman but everyone is different.Good luck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?You make me happy to be single, young and positive despite being critical of men after several horrendous experiences. What are you bitter about? Like there are worse things in the world than getting to have casual sex with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:02 AM |
| 2 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?Men are so delusional and misguided about how women think. It’s pretty simple. Women looking for a serious life partner want to know if that person will stand by them when they have kids which can cause negative impacts on a woman’s body (hair loss, saggy boobs, weight gain, teeth fall out, post partum depression etc). Further, you want to know through health and sickness this person will be there otherwise why make sacrifices like childbirth for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 10:01 AM |
| 2 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?What in particular makes you feel this way post-30s? You’d think men would be happy to have access to casual sex, yet most guys who get it remain unhappy. Also I find it interesting it took till your 30’s, I’ve had a negative view of men since I was little. Of them being dangerous, violent, selfish, entitled, cheats and abusive. Many women are raised being weary of men so I find your perspective interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:55 AM |
| 1 | Men (and women if applicable) who became successful with the opposite sex after being unsuccessful in their young to adult life, did it make you bitter, cynical, or spiteful towards the opposite sex?Men are too. But that’s life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:46 AM |
| 2 | what would be being ur reaction if you was DATING some one and you was finding out they was SECRETLY being interest in the pillo sphere like red and blue and purple pill?Low key wouldn’t be that concerned as I’m not looking to settle down but would be a red flag for long term and would keep watching for other issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:45 AM |
| 1 | Older guys are not dating young girlsBut does it last. Evidently the data shows the bigger the age gap the less likely it is to work long-term. But for short-term dating, casual relationships and hookups it’s probably fair game. I still don’t know many 20 year old girls are dating guys with an over 10 year age gap. I think mid-twenties 23/24+ could be more common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:42 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women are more shallow than men by virtue of having a much higher looks threshold and placing more emphasis on things men have no control overWho cares if this is or isn’t true. Dating is not meant to be fair given it’s an inherently discriminatory activity with the goal of procuring the best outcome for offspring. Some areas of life should be made fairer and more equitable but for dating it makes no sense. It’s pretty hard to change who someone finds attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:37 AM |
| 4 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedMany men say that until it’s time to foot the bill. Also many guys who provide feel entitled like paid for dinner now you owe me sex or control partners by not giving the access to money to leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:32 AM |
| 4 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedPeople do have it all. Great career, kids and loving partner. It is possible but it’s hard and requires more sacrifice from both parties. Raising children and staying home is a thankless job under a capitalist system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:31 AM |
| 2 | Dating is dying because Men’s historical value is negatedYou are only 20 and a guy. Don’t stress you have plenty of time. You’ll have heaps of options as you get older if you are in shape, basic social skills/empathy and have a decent job. 22 year old girl | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?Lol the data does not support that at all. What demographic of women are you talking about and what income income bracket… all critical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 09:13 AM |
| 1 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on societyI don’t want or need a doll as a woman I’m great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/22 12:48 AM |
| 2 | Having realistic standards is highly important.I have thoroughly investigated all these groups for myself out of interest and while mgtow can distance themselves from incels an overlap and interconnectedness certainly exists. From ideology of victimisation, hatred of feminists and modern women etc. If someone is a legit mgtow and just wants to do their own thing but doesn’t participate much in the movement or bashing women I don’t really mind tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 01:32 PM |
| 4 | Having realistic standards is highly important.Lol I’ve never seen a “mgtow” YouTuber that doesn’t stop talking and complaining about women. Not to mention the overlap of mgtow with incels who have committed abhorrent terrorist acts. I totally respect any man that wants to go their own way but the movement is cringe and embarrassing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 12:57 PM |
| 8 | Having realistic standards is highly important.I don’t understand people that think a relationship is always an automatic solution for unhappiness. Some people, especially men, seem to enjoy relationships more for the benefits like domestic and emotional labour provided by women. Others just need someone to blame externally for their problems tbh. The reality is modern dating as a product of capitalism, urbanisation and hyper-individualism is fucked. But their have always been issues in society and suffering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 12:53 PM |
| 1 | How much of y’all want to participate in hookup culture (but just struggle to get any)? Why?I’m not remotely angry as I’m not interested in dating, also I respect that you are free to do what you want and think how you like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Having realistic standards is highly important.Well they overlap. So if you screen for people with really low counts you are more likely to find those that actively aren’t interested in sex or have a low drive, date/marry out of duty/religion/culture not attraction, date for kids, and date/marry for stability. If you find a gorgeous woman that’s single and has a really low count but isn’t religious to some men that’s a great sign of gf material until they get married and rarely get any action. Or someone might have a low count because they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 09:01 AM |
| 2 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on societyNo-one is entitled to sex. A solution that doesn’t entail access to woman’s bodies or murder that’s fine. Maybe they can get dolls from the Government. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 08:58 AM |
| 2 | How much of y’all want to participate in hookup culture (but just struggle to get any)? Why?I don’t understand the lack of personal accountability. It’s your mentally that then results in women feeling justified to lie about their counts and then you see all this craziness unfold in relationships. Wow I’m glad to be single and avoiding most people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 08:54 AM |
| 2 | Having realistic standards is highly important.lol given those things are subjective and impacted by other factors they may seem simple but in reality they are are more complex. Like “wants to have sex” - Most guys screen for women that like sex as they probably worry she’ll be more likely to cheat or not be satisfied or will leave etc (reasons I’ve heard.) Dating and standards are complex. Also on paper someone could meet your standards but have a huge flaw. For example, the kind of woman that has all the qualities you want might be religio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:22 AM |
| 0 | Is being a woman in a first world country today "life on easy mode"?I don’t entirely agree with this. I’ve met hot woman that have been cheated on, abused, been disrespected career wise as people don’t take them seriously, struggled financially, constant sexualised etc. I also think being hot and focusing on beauty has downsides in that it’s a depreciating asset for most people over time - while the halo effect exists it can actually present harm if you don’t develop talents outside beauty and you may also be less likely to invest / be financially independent. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:14 AM |
| 4 | How much of y’all want to participate in hookup culture (but just struggle to get any)? Why?But you also engage in casual sex with women you wouldn’t date so technically you are part of the problem. It’s such weird cognitive dissonance guys who engage and benefit from hookup culture but are critical of women who do. I could respect your view if you were holding out for gf material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Having realistic standards is highly important.I don’t think so. I just think when you can manage living alone and being single their is no incentive unless the other person enhances your life in some way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:57 AM |
| 10 | Having realistic standards is highly important.Agreed. I have high standards because I enjoy and am comfortable being single forever if need be. Why would I chose to make my life worse just to have another person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Why do most people secretly enjoy watching other relationships fail?I feel that my friends or other peoples relationships fail but I’m glad they got away. However, I do think breakups can be instrumental for personal growth and development. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:53 AM |
| 1 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on societyNah. They weren’t pushed into killing others they chose that and peoples blood is in their hands. These are entitled men who think life and society owes them. Who refuse to be critical of other men who uphold the system which benefits them, refuse to critique economic inequality and others who can’t accept the world is unfair to many of us. Should women start killing men who’ve raped or committed sexual assault of course not. If some guys happiness is dependant on me losing my rights fuck him. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?We have that option - if we want it except many of us don’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 02:22 AM |
| 1 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingIrrespective, high quality as a concept is quite subjective. I agree overall with your point but would just note that their are good reasons to stay single or wait longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Personality Type & Risk Of Being Perpetually SingleIt depends on whether it’s for short term or long term mating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | How are all the happily single people going to remain happy with one income through old age?You don’t have to deal with other people’s shitty money management choices. Also I don’t want kids Bd started investing/saving early. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingHigh quality is subjective. An exceptional woman might find some versions of “high” quality to be “average”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:21 PM |
| 1 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingYep, not to mention successful relationships are relative. Is staying married till death and not divorcing success. I’ve seen plenty of awful marriages that only last out of convenience, necessity, religion, culture, finances etc Having a happily loving relationship is not easy and many couples experience troubles like addiction, cheating, poor money management, poor division of domestic labour/childcare, lack of emotional support, dead bedrooms, poor life choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:19 PM |
| 1 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingI’m autistic and adhd plus have some other struggles. I find relationships so stressful and being single way easier on my mental health / well-being. Like I’m stable and have a peaceful life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Would you date or marry a single mother or father?No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Women are attracted to winners and the majority of men are losersBecause why would women risk take risks biologically, socially, economically and physically that would harm them which could arise from dating a loser. If a guys well off and can better your lot in life it’s worth risking getting pregnant, abuse, being raped, and other crappy experiences. Also many men need to pull their weight regarding emotional and domestic labour if they aren’t high income earners that can outsource that labour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:38 PM |
| -1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?Emotional intelligence and domestic labour are huge. You’d have to earn substantially above average for women that make their own money and have choice in partners to marry so guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:33 PM |
| 1 | the real reason why modern dating/marriage is crapThis is drivel. I’d like to see that study and if they controlled for factors like religion, being family oriented, traditional, conservative or socioeconomic status/education. I think it’s a lazy excuse and overly simplistic narrative without any substantial evidence. I think better reasons exist. Women carry do more domestic and emotional labour on average compared to men even when they earn similar or more money. So many women see it as extra work. Many women and men due to unstable work envi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Women constantly shame men for lashing out when rejected, however the other side of that coin is that women are insanely picky when they have very little offer themselves, and flake over frivolous nonsense at the drop of a hat.We can afford to be as picky as we like given we just stay single which isn’t the end of the world when you work. Also do men not understand women are supposed to be picky it’s vital. We face huge risks biologically, societally and physically from mating with men thus men have to make it worth our while. You seem entitled and preoccupied with others. Try have your own standards and preferences but work with that. Don’t make hookups or dating the sole purpose but get to know women casually throug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 05:08 PM |
| 1 | I don't agree that getting relationships is quote on quote " The same difficulty" as both genders.You need to step back to understand the risks biologically, socially and physically dating presents for women. For women most guys aren’t worth the risks of pregnancy from sex or being raped, the guy killing you due to greater physical strength or being deemed a “slut”. I had one date with a guy that was extremely possessive and tried to stalk me/chase me/sent awful messages for refusing to have sex with him on a first date despite being upfront that I’d need to get to know him and if that was a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:59 PM |
| -1 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?This is so inaccurate tbh. I don’t think their is a direct correlation with low N count as I’ve got friends with super high and super low counts with high standards. The important mitigating factors are naive/inexperienced, religion, family values, culture and tradition. “Women are easier to please” with low N counts because they usually are more driven to make relationships work or are punished societally due to the mitigating factors tbh. A woman might hate her husband and find him unattractiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?I feel blessed to have never had that experience in that I’m glad they got away and wish them luck and happiness with life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?Those are too risky and dangerous for most women tbh. Unless you are super into the clubbing and partying lifestyle women outside that bubble aren’t as active as you’d think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:47 PM |
| 3 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?Think this is common in both genders tbh. Reminds me how true the saying comparison is the thief of joy actually is. Once you’ve dated someone exceptional it feels like a downgrade if the next person isn’t equal or better even if they are an amazing person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Why do men tend to have a more varied taste in the opposite sex?Lack of choice and options combined with greater desire, social acceptance and lower risk of engaging in sexual acts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Blunt question for women: What do you imagine or fantasize about when you masturbate alone? Specifically what are you feeling, thinking, or desiring? What is it that you want in that moment?Straight woman. Romance stories (can tolerate men), other women (porn) or my ex. Cannot stand seeing men in porn it disgusts me. I need strong feelings for a guy as a person to be sexually into them tbh (are they someone I feel safe with and won’t hurt me). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:40 PM |
| 2 | Men care more about a woman’s career/social status than they like to admitHighly skilled or upperclass people do date outside of their social sphere but one of the best ways to get access to these groups is through decent education or social circles. Most high income men I’ve met have wives equally qualified and earning a similar income. Successful men are usually not going to marry the Starbucks girl usually they see her in the side. I think athletes or rappers are demographics who may be less accustomed to wealth and likely to be less careful - especially younger on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Women LOVE to throw out the classic “it’s not your ____ it’s because you’re a misogynistic asshole” yet misogynistic assholes are consistently the ones getting laid. This alone proves that women are unable to have an honest conversation about dating and discredits anything else they have to say.Research does indicate that dark triad traits are associated with improved short-term mating so in a basic sense you are likely correct - but I’m not an expert in this field so read more to see how robust the relationship is. What you have to consider is the long term risks and challenges of you lying, getting someone pregnant, STI’s, cheating among many other things that undermine your reputation, well -being and credibility. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2009-02105-002 https://www.ncbi.nlm.ni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:31 PM |
| 2 | I honestly believe women just aren't interested in sex.I have a really high libido but have near zero desire for most men which is the cruel reality. Also I think having spoken to many of my gf numerous things kill desire for a bf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:23 PM |
| 5 | With male virginity rates near 30% in the USA for the 18-30 age range what impact will this have on societyI’d rather die than acquiesce to this men. Liberal feminism isn’t perfect and I’m highly critical of it as a feminist but the solution isn’t comprising with these men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 04:19 PM |
| 1 | should overweight but financially successful men lower their dating standards?My point is everyone including men have standards. OPs standards are still high and I would say out of his league at present. Not begrudging him those standards but highlighting to you the fact that we are all allowed to have high standards. We might never find someone that meets them but it doesn't make someone delusional if they are content with being single until or if they never find someone (many modern women are content being single vs settling). Unless we are the exact type of woman OPs d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 12:32 PM |
| 1 | What are the chances the men in your lives are hiding their “true selves”?Thanks - I'm pretty content single and not interested in dating or going out of my way to date. If I happened to find the right person maybe but not sure its for me. Glad you found your person though. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 11:56 AM |
| 1 | should overweight but financially successful men lower their dating standards?He's looking for attractive and smart/good career. His pool is miniscule but it aligns with his values. There is nothing wrong with having high standards as long as you are happy being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 11:28 AM |
| 2 | What are the chances the men in your lives are hiding their “true selves”?Probs. I haven't had a 'bad' relationship tbh and my ex is a decent to great guy mostly - we had a good relationship. I don't want kids plus I'm very introverted, homebody and need lots of alone-time compared to most people. Feel like the worst version of myself in a relationship and can see myself extremely unhappy dating most men. Never say never but its extremely unlikely. :) But when people get bitter and feel entitled in dating especially with incels/redpill to the point of dehumanising or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 11:09 AM |
| 2 | should overweight but financially successful men lower their dating standards?Male's engage in hypergamy just based on looks more heavily. I increasingly meet men who's wives are equally smart and successful (if not more). I don't think most men want the average looking women. Most average or above average women make effort for skincare, hair, makeup, nails, finding well fitting clothes, heels etc way more than the average guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 10:55 AM |
| 2 | What are the chances the men in your lives are hiding their “true selves”?Having learnt how many men think and seen lots of misogyny has made me uninterested in ever dating men again. So I wouldn't be surprised if guys thought like that per se but it would be disappointing. Especially guys obsessed with hooking up or partying after their late twenties are kind of sad to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 10:14 AM |
| 3 | should overweight but financially successful men lower their dating standards?Especially if he's dating financially independent women. They aren't going to overlook attraction for money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 10:01 AM |
| 2 | should overweight but financially successful men lower their dating standards?Such a skewed metric and its constantly cited by men. Most women don't use online dating so you are dealing with a huge imbalance and women that do have accounts may only consider meeting guys in very rare instances. I don't think it's a gendered issue. I genuinely think many women and men seek partners outside their leagues. Many incels and single guys (like OP) have standards which they can't meet and they are superficial but act surprised when things don't work out down the track. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 09:58 AM |
| 3 | should overweight but financially successful men lower their dating standards?This guy is overweight and wants to date a slim/slightly overweight woman with a STEM background like Medicine or Engineering. He is literally searching for the top percentage of women and someone out of his league. Men looking for relationships and even dating (many incels) have standards which are to high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 09:53 AM |
| 1 | should overweight but financially successful men lower their dating standards?He basically wants someone out of his league unless he gets extremely lucky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 09:51 AM |
| 1 | should overweight but financially successful men lower their dating standards?Except this guy is also fat and successful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 09:48 AM |
| 2 | Women, do you view that dating and sexual dynamics are on the decline?Wow such different lives wish you luck. I’m around 22 looking to buy my first place so we are all at different stages! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/22 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Women, do you view that dating and sexual dynamics are on the decline?Ah. Well I think the renter culture is very different in Europe which is pretty fair. In my country you usually need assets and also you don't want to go to most aged care facilities - ideally you'd want someone to be a carer for you in my home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/22 01:03 PM |
| 2 | Women, do you view that dating and sexual dynamics are on the decline?That’s fun and cute till you are old. Then living on a van or not owning any land is extremely stressful. Not to mention it’s a good hedge against the market or retirement funds | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/22 12:38 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesGood luck. I'm still not certain whether an issue actually exists based on that figure and whether a large percentage of men being single is inherently an issue. Especially as I see being single as great and given it opens many opportunities for self-actualisation. While I think loneliness is a problem I don't personally see romantic relationships as the automatic solution. The freedoms and norms associated with the 21st Century have made being single possible. I don't see this as inherently a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 05:38 PM |
| 21 | Women, do you view that dating and sexual dynamics are on the decline?I really don't care personally about dating. But I find it interesting from a sociological and psychological approach - as many aspects of society and the economy are impacting people's willingness to enter committed relationships and people struggle more to achieve the markers of adulthood. In previous generations you could buy a home and stability in both lower and middle-class where that's becoming increasingly more difficult. People have to study more and having more debt with school, more d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Romantic successes and failures can have profound impacts on how men thinkInteresting findings. It's funny and potentially explains why society tries to pressure women into dating men to get marriage and kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 01:03 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesDo you understand that skewed sex ratios are often the by-product of sexism i.e. femicides look at China? I disagree, while the environment may drive men's behaviour you can't ignore biological factors like testosterone and others which makes them significantly more likely to engage in violence. Nah you are on reddit making a statement that you are concerned about the fact that 51% of young men are single. While you've highlighted that it's unclear why and that potentially it increases societal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 12:57 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesYeah that study isn’t generalisable as it’s in Asian countries where most of us live in western countries. Those countries are extremely sexist and femicide is a huge issue. I love how you gloss over the scummy men. The reality is men need to convince women relationship with them are worthwhile. Plenty do plenty don’t. Woman are most likely to be raped or harmed or killed by men they know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 06:01 AM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesGood luck. I think many women just want to be single as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 05:30 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesCondoms can break ? Ultimately the more markers of being an adult you have the better your dating options will be. Sadly in our generation things are harder but then maybe wait longer to date seriously which many are doing waiting till late twenties or early thirties. The things you listed are pretty normal in the middle class/upper middle class and educated cohorts inner city. I’m sure if you earn like $60-$70k in lower cost of living state it would be quite marketable. You don’t need to be rip… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 05:00 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesYou clearly know very little about women’s health. Many women respond poorly to birth control and sex always includes the risk of pregnancy even if it’s small. Your second paragraph is simplifying human behaviour. Abusers can be quiet, confident, introverts or extroverts - there is no one size fits all. I’m not going to blame women for choosing or staying with abusive men because these situations are extremely complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesMen are abusive and dangerous in all racial and socio-economic demographics. Given the risk dating and procreating presents to women it makes sense they want to get the best man possible to make the risk worthwhile. Violent men are basically everywhere and basically impossible to completely avoid sadly. Next best thing is to accept the risk but only for a guy that provides enough incentive. For reference look at school shootings and most violence is perpetrated by men. It's basically a gamble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesI’ve heard this line of reasoning and I’m skeptical because I think the violence is quite similar either way. The only difference I think occurs is when men are in relationships the violence is intimate partner violence/domestic violence and when they are single it’s societal violence that increases. Hence why I don’t understand the problem men are gonna be violent towards women regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Men also practice dual mating strategyThis. It’s not always that simple many guys get bored even if they’ve met the most amazing intelligent marriageable woman. Exactly they resent you either way to be honest - you can’t win. Many men want the option for both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Many men nowadays don't want to date and avoid marriage because they don't want to lose their money and assets and they are afraid of having to pay child support and being able to go to jail if they do not pay itYou know women have money and assets which can be used for child support and most payments I’ve seen are much lower than the costs the mother incurs raising the child. If you think like this it’s good you aren’t dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: what kind of tattoos do you like on men?Don’t particularly like them. But it’s not a deal breaker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:43 PM |
| 0 | This “small subset” of women who claim to be struggling could hop on Reddit right now and have their pick of the litter but they won’t do it. That’s an option most men will NEVER haveYep and risk being raped, killed, abused, impregnated, labelled a slut/whore/hoe, human trafficked. If you are unable to remotely empathise with woman’s experiences and the fact that many of us prefer romantic intimacy then can’t help you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Are men also affected by having high n counts/sleeping with many different women?Yes, although it depends why they have a high count. Some men are really insecure and use sex to mask it. Others have difficulties with intimacy and are avoidants. Overall these guys can become very callous with women and rude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:32 PM |
| 1 | You can't be the "stability guy" and expect the "casual sex guy" treatmentYou attract what you are just don’t complain about women who live similar lifestyles. I’ve seen guys who act like party-boys and only do casual sex then act shocked that they only meet girls that cheat, like hooking up and other things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:30 PM |
| 1 | What do you consider a high N-count?Me. I don’t get why people care that much and it reeks of insecurity. So many more viral and interesting things to explore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:25 PM |
| 3 | [Q4W] Women of PPD, when did you know you wanted to have sex with a man? What made you feel that way?If you are relatively well groomed, have decent communications skills, empathy and can respect women you can probably get with more girls tbh. If you make the other person feel safe, have fun and are non-judgemental it helps heaps. Most guys demean women as sluts for sleeping around and blame single mothers but then act confused when women adopt high standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:12 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesWell not our fault some men have barely any standards. Pretty sure if you had to deal with the physical and psychological realities of getting pregnant you’d want the best partner possible. Further, dating is dangerous for many women so not surprised we want it to be worthwhile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesNah just stay away from us. This is not a real problem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:04 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesWhy is it a problem if all those people are consenting. It might also include gay women, polyamory and women being lied to by guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:03 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesWhy is that concerning? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:02 PM |
| 1 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesPolyamory is another explanation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 01:01 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD. How many of you are single?Same <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 12:49 PM |
| 4 | FDS Users Are Mostly Low Social StatusThe advice to not pay for dates only refers to the beginning of dating and was designed to weed out men who want easy hook-ups. Sounds pretty reasonable. Many groups have the problem with externalising problems however it doesn't negate much of the advice and the enjoyment of having an all female space online. Also do you tell your depressed or ADHD or Autistic patients they need to take ownership to get their life in order? What's the point of seeing a doctor if I can do it on my own? R/FemaleL… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Guardian Newspaper glamourises the Female Dating Strategy subreddit as an "empowering lifestyle for dating standards of women"Do you know there are different schools of thought about feminism, not just liberal feminists. Lol | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexI hope not! I’m still very on the fence, it will likely timing thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexMy issue is the way relationships are set up makes me resentful of having kids knowing that I have to sacrifice my body, but my partner is doesn’t have to make any real sacrifices unless they chose to. For the right guy maybe? But maybe not? Think being content being alone is valuable and defs not a complaint on my behalf - literally a good time! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 08:35 AM |
| 1 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexYep I would never do that. But deciding to have kids with a man is a risk because people have agency so he can change and become a shitty person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexPersonally, I don’t think it’s dire or that dying alone is bad, think being happy alone is very important. It reflects people’s freedom and individual choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 08:26 AM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexOk, once again no-one is forcing you to marry again! Not sure what you mean by possession? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexI think that’s for all genders, plastic surgery and other features of society make people more materialistic. Shallow people like shallow people, not sure what the problem is with that? Building with someone is rare because most people in their early twenties don’t know wtf they are doing and are being selfish (men and women). It’s a bit ridiculous to expect someone to give up an opportunity to start a business or go to their dream school to just ‘build’ with someone with no guarantee- if a guy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 08:03 AM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexPossession of what? Stop acting like you have people chasing you down trying to marry you lol :’) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 07:15 AM |
| 1 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexYour ‘defence’ merely supports the notion that the bar is low for men in relationships and as partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 04:13 AM |
| 0 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexFor relationships and parenting yes, much lower. If you got someone pregnant it was your duty to marry and support them as a guy, now no-one will bat an eyelid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexI think you raise some fair points. But the reality is that if the bar for men is very low then all these vetting processes and dating with marriage in mind just rules out a significant number of men. Also including family is only relevant if they were an example you admire or want to emulate, which many people don’t. Also many women are shamed for having basic standards which doesn’t help the narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 03:41 AM |
| 2 | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexI don’t buy this notion that there are so many good guys in the friendzone bs - many guys are there for good reasons and many men are able to get married. Also while you can argue women should pick better it completely ignores that people can change so even if you pick “well” there are no guarantees that they will act in a certain way. Many guys say they’d be great dads and caring but when faced with actually having kids they underestimate how much is needed. Also men the bar is so low for men l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 03:02 AM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexYou’re conflating pure lust and the longer-term passion with a partner. Like a fire you have to tend to it otherwise it dies very quickly, and guys like you wonder what happened. Also I don’t need a random stranger explaining to me women’s experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 02:29 AM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexNo it’s a 100% certainty that if a couple wants children the woman has to carry the child and give birth. Men can chose to provide, although increasingly men are not breadwinners or some abandon their kids or are absent fathers. Even when women stay home many are giving up the opportunity of building a decent job history/career so they are more vulnerable. That’s why from my view kids are a lose-lose proposition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 02:25 AM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexPretty valid. As a woman I love kids but have never longed for my own so I can’t relate but I think that’s probably got truth to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 11:40 PM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexEquality is bull-shit when the premise of a nuclear family is inherently unequal and based on women being self-less with their bodies or lives or opportunitues. Relationships need equity which acknowledges BOTH people’s needs - often men only have only learnt marriage = sex. Try question what needs each person can met to having a fulfilling marriage/relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 11:38 PM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexMany are sold a dream and fantasy by marketing companies and culture. Most men start of romantic so you think it’s different and then quickly your past the point of no return. I wish more women asked tough questions early on, it opens your eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 11:32 PM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexI’m not wasting multiple years of my life ‘communicating’ with someone that has not empathy for me. Lol why is the onus on me if I’m feed up - also you can’t change peoples character easily. If someone has be a certain way for a while accept it and move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 11:30 PM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexWhere do you think the concept of marriage originated from and has evolved from. A wife was often viewed as an asset - some to raise good children(heir), manage the home, provide intimacy and was thrift. She was invisible, but today women can be visible and leave when situations don’t serve them. Many men need to actually empathise with women today otherwise long-term they’ll slowly refuse dating . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 11:27 PM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexMany women like sex but if you have to work, manage domestic duties and receive minimal respect or love or emotional support it leads to resentment. A lot of modern relationships seem like roommates situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 11:23 PM |
| – | Low Sexual Desire Is A Healthy Response To Lacklustre SexThey are asking for the bare minimum. Insane that you think it makes women difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 11:18 PM |
| 1 | The cost of a beautiful womanIm not sure you actually understand that in the real world it costs money to live, and a lot of people treat you better if you look a certain way. It’s not fair or nice, but it’s reality. Think many women see a guy paying as attractive because as it indicates he’s generous and if she decides to have kids with him he’ll be able to provide. Not perfect reasoning but fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 02:48 PM |
| 1 | The cost of a beautiful womanNo it’s not, because if you don’t appreciate it you don’t have to date her as there are plenty of women that are low maintenance. Also you can’t help it if you are a woman attracted to men that get the bill and make you feel valued. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 02:40 PM |
| 1 | The cost of a beautiful womanI’m happy for you and your girl. But that could never be me - when it comes to marriage/kids. But that’s what great about our current world we can all do what we like and find the right person! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 12:12 PM |
| 2 | The cost of a beautiful womanNo she feels that if she invests in looking her best she wants a partner that appreciates that. If you think it’s a waste you can find a women a different woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 12:08 PM |
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