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coldacid/r/MensRights16/02/12 09:16 PM
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coldacid/r/MensRights18/11/11 08:56 PM
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I have left reddit for Voat due to years of admin mismanagement and preferential treatment for certain subreddits and users holding certain political and ideological views. The situation has gotten especially worse since the appointment of Ellen Pao as CEO, culminating in the seemingly unjustified firings of several valuable employees. As an act of protest, I have chosen to add this exit message to all comments I've ever made on reddit. If you would like to do the same, install TamperMonkey for …
/r/MensRights10/06/15 01:13 AM
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I can live with this if it means we get more and better bike lanes. The only ones worth a damn are on Adelaide and Simcoe, and even they end up with assholes parking in them despite the barriers.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 05:27 PM
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With a bullet in every cylinder.
/r/MensRights03/03/15 07:22 PM
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Pretty much everywhere that's either Britain, or a former colony/conquered territory of theirs.
/r/MensRights17/02/15 09:16 PM
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Nothing, besides showing that America remains archaic and puritanical when it comes to sexual matters.
/r/MensRights17/02/15 12:48 PM
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And I'm in Ontario. This is the first time I've heard of triple damages for maliciousness in a Canadian court case. Perhaps it's just a BC thing?
/r/MensRights13/02/15 08:30 PM
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It was all over /r/Canada and /r/CanadaPolitics a couple months ago. Or Google it.
/r/MensRights13/02/15 07:55 PM
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We're talking Canada, not USA here. Doesn't work that way up here in the hat.
/r/MensRights13/02/15 07:54 PM
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Fair enough, it's your karma.
/r/MensRights08/02/15 09:38 PM
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You know you're being sarcastic, and I know you're being sarcastic, but that doesn't mean everyone else will know. Wouldn't hurt to put a /s at the end just to be on the safe side.
/r/MensRights08/02/15 04:26 PM
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There's also a MR community on voat (nee WhoaVerse) from when reddit stopped showing vote counts. Likewise it's been pretty empty for half a year.
/r/MensRights04/01/15 02:38 AM
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Well I just created https://8chan.co/mr/ but I'd rather let someone else manage/mod it. Might issue modmail to the /r/MensRights mods with the u/p for the board.
/r/MensRights04/01/15 12:02 AM
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/r/MarriageStrike
/r/MensRights03/01/15 11:46 PM
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In the last three years it’s given readers a list of words they wish could be banned forever, and the winners — “LOL/OMG/WTF” in 2011, “YOLO” in 2012 and “twerk” in 2013 — are immediately erased from the worldwide Internet lexicon, never to be spoken or typed again. Which is why I've heard and seen all these words in use THIS YEAR ALONE, at least once a month. Riiiiiiiiiight. ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights14/11/14 12:55 PM
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CBC execs confirmed that the information provided showed that there was consent. In fact, they later said to me and my team that there is no question in their minds that there has always been consent. They said they’re not concerned about the legal side. But then they said that this type of sexual behavior was unbecoming of a prominent host on the CBC. They said that I was being dismissed for "the risk of the perception that may come from a story that could come out." To recap, I am being fired …
/r/MensRights26/10/14 10:43 PM
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Yep.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 06:01 PM
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Well, he did get pretty bent out of shape during this situation. Hopefully after the civil suit, though, he'll be back in good form so that he and OP can have a happy life again.
/r/MensRights08/08/14 03:42 PM
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I'm not sure about the case with the 17 year old, but the first boy (16 years old at the time) did admit that he initiated things at first and was even proud of the relationship. Unless she tried to keep the relationship going with sexual activity after he started feeling ashamed about it, his case just sounds like when a girl says "rape" about consensual sex that she no longer feels good about. That said, a teacher should know better. Even if it's the student coming onto the teacher, as someone…
/r/MensRights06/08/14 04:28 PM
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To the radfems, it's the same thing, since women could never commit domestic violence against a man, or rape a man. They're always the victims. /s
/r/MensRights31/07/14 02:26 PM
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Obviously, from the tone of the article author, it can't be domestic violence if it's committed by a woman. Just like how men can't be raped. Props to Whoopi for being smart and common-sense about this, and not folding in the face of opposition from the clucking hens on The View.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 02:25 PM
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Was Stierch editing that or related pages, or was she just promoting the site to women and building up other pages? Unless the first case can be demonstrated, I can't see a connection here.
/r/MensRights21/07/14 11:19 AM
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Even with the edit-o-thon for historical women, I cannot see a men's rights issue here. Unless she was getting paid to add bias to pages related to feminism or the MRM, this isn't an issue for here.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 02:24 PM
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Burn the prosecutor as a witch?
/r/PussyPass12/07/14 02:37 AM
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I think that means you can safely get away with oppressing them as much as you want; they can't see you anyway! :P
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:41 PM
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No, they're trying to pressure us to be "sexy", which isn't necessarily healthy at all. It's stupid when they do that to women, and it's stupid when they do that to men. It'd be so much better if they put an expectation of actual health rather than Hollywood health on us.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:38 PM
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How dare they! :p
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:36 PM
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What the hell am I doing here?
/r/MensRights17/05/14 03:32 AM
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If I were your manager, I'd have escorted her from the store and given trespass notice. I wouldn't allow customers to abuse my employees.
/r/MensRights17/05/14 03:31 AM
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Wow, someone's a bit off the chain today...
/r/MensRights20/04/14 10:47 PM
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Actually, it did get published.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 10:43 PM
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Probably however it feels to live in Oceania. That's some high-grade doublethink she's got going there in that paragraph.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 02:28 AM
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By that logic, everywhere not using the common law system has failed, including most of Europe.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 02:08 AM
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If somebody is raped, the crime might not have actually happened. No. If somebody claims they've been raped, then the crime might not have happened, but if somebody has been raped, then a crime has occurred just as much as if somebody had been murdered.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 02:06 AM
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Next thing feminist going to say is "all men accused of rape are automatically guilty until proven innocent". Well, they already believe it...
/r/MensRights08/02/14 02:04 AM
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Probably balanced because it was written almost 30 years ago, a time when people weren't so fucking batshit extreme about everything.
/r/MensRights01/02/14 02:22 AM
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Not always. For severe cases of phimosis, sometimes circumcision is the only treatment possible. That's pretty damn rare, though, I will admit.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 09:53 PM
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Really bad cases of phimosis. Which obviously is not an issue for babies.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 09:51 PM
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Maybe, if we're lucky, their brains would explode from the cognitive dissonance.
/r/MensRights23/01/14 01:02 PM
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You say that like it's stopped them before.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 05:18 PM
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RES.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 09:20 PM
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Stormfront is that way --->
/r/MensRights15/01/14 11:50 PM
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Police are men and therefore can't be trusted. Rape culture and all. /s
/r/MensRights15/01/14 11:48 PM
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No wonder they got shut off.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 07:23 PM
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But that's about women, so it can't be sexist! /s
/r/MensRights01/12/13 07:23 PM
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Says it all.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 07:22 PM
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Hopefully those ABOG shitheads will all get ass cancer, and then not find anyone willing to treat it.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 12:47 AM
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Live long and prosper.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:54 PM
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But given the misandrist legal climate, what's the chances of us being given the right to voluntary parental surrender?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 03:14 AM
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Top for me at the moment, but I sort by new.
/r/MensRights22/10/13 11:06 PM
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Your sister's a bro.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 02:37 AM
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Real classy how the slideshow of MR posters is immediately followed by old sexist ads in the same slideshow. Not that I'd expect any different from those commies at HuffPo.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 10:55 PM
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It fits my feelz. We should be better than that. If all we go by is feels, we're no better than the radicals on the other side.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 07:49 PM
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Thanks. I think it's important to remember that sometimes the falsely accused do win. If all we ever do is focus on the bad cases, or only listen to one side in situations, we'll be no better than the radfems we oppose.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 12:19 AM
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Why? Why at least a million? The guy didn't even get charged, he was only libeled and won in court. Usually there are fair limits set on penalties for things like that.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 12:17 AM
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Denounce the individual articles, not the source. That's what we should be doing, anyway.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 02:01 AM
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Every once and a while, you'll find a gem in a pile of shit.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 02:00 AM
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Yep, right down to not actually being funny.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 01:53 AM
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That's pretty much what it is. Modern "radical" feminism is nothing more than noisy victimhood addiction and fetishization, made into an industry.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 01:52 AM
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I'm a sizable TES fan, so...
/r/MensRights07/07/13 12:53 AM
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Yeah, but different starting stats for race are a given in any fantasy RPG setting. What I'm pointing out is that the stats are different between male and female characters too.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 10:52 PM
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Morrowind and Oblivion starting stats by race and gender.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 09:54 PM
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Ah, the good old TFTS shuffle.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:47 AM
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Just because they are considered something sexual by our culture doesn't change the biology of them. Besides you can be charged in some places with sexual assault for grabbing at someone's feet or licking their armpits in an appropriate context, does that make feet and armpits genitals?
/r/TheRedPill21/06/13 03:21 AM
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Protip: Breasts aren't genitals.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/13 09:28 PM
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To have her cake and eat it too.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:20 PM
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I was unable to stifle my giggles at that.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:17 PM
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The other subset eventually find their backbones and leave her.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:16 PM
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One that only exists in her twisted mind.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 12:14 PM
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Embrace your inner geek. But even though they're revived in the end, it's still a pretty big wham moment for the player when they sacrifice themselves to save the party.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 12:14 PM
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EMOTICONS ARE LITERALLY RAPE! WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE WOMYNZ!
/r/MensRights30/05/13 04:03 PM
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So?
/r/MensRights02/05/13 03:02 PM
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That's west coast America.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 03:22 AM
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Nice try, SRSter.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 03:08 AM
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But then think of all the innocents who won't be convicted and sent to prison for long periods of time! If people aren't getting convicted, how will it reflect the conviction records of all those elected sheriffs, prosecutors, and judges? /s
/r/MensRights30/04/13 03:05 PM
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One bad apple makes the rest rotten too? “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke So long as decent cops don't immediately turn on the bad cops, they're being just as evil as the bad ones. Unfortunately, police forces have a code of silence that would put the Mafia omertà to shame, and so outside of major scandals, the bad cops are rarely ever punished for their misdeeds. This is the same problem with the overall feminist movement, and some…
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:58 PM
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Good point.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:26 PM
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Unless the accused is a woman.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 02:07 AM
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If you really love TNG, you'd know it's Jean-Luc Picard. :p
/r/MensRights29/04/13 08:36 PM
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Half of what is wrong with the American post-secondary system.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/13 02:20 AM
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Some people just assume that all psychologists and psychiatrists are quacks like Freud was.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 01:14 AM
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If only our justice system worked
/r/MensRights19/04/13 11:41 PM
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Even if they are, they at least allow the rest of us to yell out for egalitarianism, rather than oppress us. Unlike the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 06:00 AM
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My left nut he is. Go back some 60-70 years in the USA.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 05:55 AM
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Japan already has women-only train cars.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 05:53 AM
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Make it known to the DailyUW editors. Complain to staff and administration. Team up with others who see modern feminism for the Nazi-like movement of bigotry it's become and make yourself heard.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 05:46 AM
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Logic don't real!
/r/MensRights19/04/13 05:45 AM
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Indeed. Goes to show that machismo "masculinity" is as much our enemy as modern feminism.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 04:03 AM
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When there's no real statistic supporting either case, you can say whatever you want since nobody has strong enough data to challenge you.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 02:53 AM
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Twitter has been downright fuckwitted over this case. http://womenspost.ca/articles/socialnetworking/50-most-disgusting-responses-torontos-male-rape-victim
/r/MensRights09/04/13 02:48 AM
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As a post-Ukrainian/trans-German, I am triggered by your use of "the" before Ukraine, as if it is just some object for you to oppress! /s Seriously though, it's unnecessary and oh so outdated (and saves you some typing time not using it).
/r/MensRights30/03/13 02:36 PM
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You can't really karma whore with self posts. Only link posts and comments.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 01:35 PM
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Disagree. Progress is when they can't be named before and during trial, and when their names are proclaimed wide and far as innocent when their wrongful convictions are overturned. That he wasn't named here means nothing if he was named during the original trial.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 07:48 PM
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And could you not appeal, and report her for misconduct unbefitting of a teacher? By simply standing up and stating what you did, you're probably already on her shit list and should start taking action to save your ass academically already.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 04:08 AM
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I wouldn't say that. Generally to get a developer evangelist position anywhere, you need to be able to code. Being a DE means more than just fostering relations, but also educating other developers on the technical aspects of your company's products and services, and even helping clients integrate those products and services into their business. Gods help you if you can't crack open an IDE and write a few hundred lines of code off the top of your head.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 03:58 AM
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You know what's really rape? Canola.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 03:55 AM
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I sent an email to the CEO thanking him for making the right choice, expressing condolences that he and SendGrid were involved at all in the situation, and wishing him more luck in the future. I hope you've all done the same!
/r/MensRights22/03/13 03:54 AM
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I didn't actually downvote that comment, but I certainly will downvote this one of yours for being a prat.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 09:22 PM
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Sorry, but that post of yours just reads like a total ass-cover.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 09:11 PM
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Clearly you've never held a job with PR being a major part of your duties.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 09:01 PM
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trolololol
/r/MensRights21/03/13 09:00 PM
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On top of that, as a "developer evangelist" you're expected to be a public face for the company. Causing drama among the very people to whom you'll likely be promoting the company's products and services is ridiculously counter-productive, not to mention unprofessional. As someone expected to do PR and educational work for a company, that alone is a firing offence.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 08:59 PM
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Close enough. TechCrunch had some balanced coverage (crazy, TechCrunch being balanced at all, right?) that shows how this went from a private little mole hill into friggin Mount Everest.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 08:57 PM
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Geez, looking at the responses to that tweet... White knights. White knights EVERYWHERE.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 04:58 PM
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Indeed, it's not a good thing. There's a reason I put seemingly in my comment. It appears as a positive thing, at least to SJ types and the class of people who gain benefits from it, but it only further perpetuates the unbalance between groups of people.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 04:16 PM
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I've always interpreted "reverse -ism" to be a seemingly positive (for one side) display of an -ism. Things like affirmative action or job quotas for minorities would be reverse racism, "no blacks allowed" is standard racism, etc.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 02:26 AM
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sudo — execute a command as another user I think what you meant to say is "pseudo".
/r/MensRights13/03/13 03:30 AM
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ERMAHGERD MURSES!
/r/MensRights12/03/13 07:44 PM
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My hope is that the extra neurons go toward improving cogitation. It'd give me an excuse to brag about my intelligence (because obviously, it didn't go toward wisdom in me!)
/r/MensRights12/03/13 07:42 PM
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I see a lot of non-sexist stuff posted by women too, but I'd not call all the non-sexist crap posts on Facebook benign. Likewise, I see sexist pro-radfem stuff posted by guys as well.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 05:34 PM
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And yet for all that, there are worse people in US politics. GG America.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 03:16 PM
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Bit of a generalization but people post such shit on Facebook. FTFY. I see so much retarded shit posted on FB by people of either gender, although I'll admit that women do have a slight edge in the quantity of it.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 03:14 PM
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Welcome to the pussy pass.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 02:27 PM
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People acquitted of rape charges should be on the front pages of the papers, for days or weeks even if there was a lot of interest in their case. Rub it in to make sure everyone knows that the person is innocent.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 03:33 AM
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But if you proactively look after your safety, you don't get to play the victim card for free! /s
/r/MensRights11/03/13 03:10 AM
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MONADS!
/r/MensRights06/02/13 02:56 AM
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C'mon, there's no such thing as sexism against men... /s
/r/MensRights29/01/13 03:38 AM
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Ontario Court of Appeal, yes. Further appeal would be to the Supreme Court of Canada if they deign to hear it.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 09:27 PM
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/r/MRmemes --->
/r/MensRights06/01/13 02:21 AM
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Chief Justice MacDonald countered that it is unlikely a woman getting pregnant surreptitiously would be construed as assault, noting that pregnancy has much more serious consequences for mothers than fathers. I'd guess not.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 05:41 AM
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Yeah, and on those grounds I can see it being considered assault. The real injustice here is Chief Justice MacDonald countered that it is unlikely a woman getting pregnant surreptitiously would be construed as assault, noting that pregnancy has much more serious consequences for mothers than fathers. That attitude is the real problem. Man sneakily gets unwilling-to-be woman pregnant, he's in shit with the law. Woman sneakily gets pregnant by unwilling-to-be man, and it's tough shit for the man, …
/r/MensRights05/01/13 05:40 AM
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Oh, even the shortest ones will hit. Trust me on that.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 05:33 AM
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ಠ_ಠ
/r/MensRights05/01/13 05:31 AM
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All public schools are indoctrination camps. The primary purpose for them isn't to educate, but to make sure that kids become the same kind of mindless worker-consumers as their parents. Education is just a grace.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 02:59 AM
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No problem. I wish the mods would stick a link to it in the sidebar, though...
/r/MensRights22/12/12 09:37 AM
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Nice, but /r/MRMemes is that way -->
/r/MensRights22/12/12 06:34 AM
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A great solution, too, if not for the fact that the Japanese are still incredibly racist towards anyone who isn't Japanese themselves.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:16 AM
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The article even mentions that this is more a throwback to male behaviour in Japan before WW2 and the boom of the 50s-80s.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:14 AM
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Someone who crosses picket lines to work when the actual proper workers are on strike or locked out. A traitor to one's co-workers (or in this case, gender).
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:13 AM
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Indeed. You can limit what you post to certain groups of friends or individual friends.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:06 AM
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I'm just going to shake my head and try to not think about it. Because this leaves me awfully conflicted.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 05:53 AM
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Canada doesn't have district attorneys.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:25 AM
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Hell, they even removed their name badges just in case those got in the way!
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:16 AM
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Just because we voted an idiotic windbag for mayor doesn't mean we're entirely hopeless... :p
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:12 AM
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There's a reason people used to have to learn logic and rhetoric in school, and before anything else (well, besides grammar).
/r/MensRights30/10/12 02:27 AM
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DJs often are regular weirdos, just ones with air time.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 12:54 AM
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So, we don't downvote. But we should be hitting these people with reality-hammers -- tell them they're wrong and exactly why they are. But it'll only work if we do so with more replies than they can handle. One or two people correcting them is easily ignored; a storm of corrections is not so easily pushed away.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 10:53 PM
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I didn't intend downvote brigading, although I can see how my comment could be read as such. I'd love to see people posting such crap drowned in replies showing them how wrong they are -- still a brigade, but one of replies and corrections.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 10:02 PM
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I hope that VA doesn't do that. On the other hand, I think the world would be a better place if someone did gift Chen with some lead.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 09:57 PM
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It's a little rich to call Daily Mail an element of journalism. They're on the level of supermarket tabloid.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 09:37 PM
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DJs often take on strange names on-air.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 09:36 PM
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At least the Fempire and its toadies on reddit stand for something, as crooked as they may be. All Gawker and Chen are about is ad revenue by any means possible. If we're to consider "both Gawker and a subsection of Reddit" to be scum, Gawker needs to still be seen as a lower order of scum.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 09:35 PM
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Wish you had linked that comment for mass schoolin' of the person who wrote that. EDIT: schoolin' != downvotes. We need to educate these people in a way they can't ignore.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 09:22 PM
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Reddit posts, all the way down! Alternatively: Yo Dawg...
/r/MensRights17/10/12 09:21 PM
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Somewhere just below nil.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 09:17 PM
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Sure it's a misleading headline here, but the actual petition is still worthwhile for us to support.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 06:27 PM
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If profit takes a higher billing than free speech, that will be the ruin of reddit. I'm already thinking of packing up and going elsewhere, as soon as a similar site that actually stands for free and open speech without the fear of reprisals by PC thugs appears. Fuck SRS and fuck the admins who side with them or don't have the balls to rein in their bullshit.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 11:43 PM
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For how they've destroyed the character and attitude of reddit, they'd be the first bunch I'd ban. I remember when this site was about free speech, but thanks to SRS and their allies, it's about oppression of dissent and toeing the party line like it's 1984 now.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 11:23 PM
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Yeah, but I've seen it called reverse X-ism too.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 11:05 AM
12

And that's supposed to validate her sexist opinion?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 04:25 AM
13

0/10 Cool troll, bro
/r/MensRights01/10/12 04:24 AM
5

Yay for RES, comment saved. I will definitely use these later on.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 04:24 AM
2

I think "reverse racism/sexism" is supposed to be inclusive ("we're here for Y & Z") as opposed to exclusive ("we don't serve X here") as well.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 04:22 AM
2

And said friend remains a friend? Share with us your secrets, oh sage! Seriously, if you were able to win the debate and keep the other person as a friend, that's a bang-up job. The real challenge, though, is to win it by convincing them of the true position, not just browbeat them with facts until they simply give up. I'd like to know how your argument went and what you feel the result was, in terms of friendship and convincing vs beating.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 04:21 AM
1

Only if the student is under the age of 18. If they're 18 or older, it's not statutory rape if someone in a position of authority has sex with someone who is under their authority, by my interpretation at least of section 153 of the Criminal Code of Canada.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 04:06 AM
3

PROTIP: Self posts don't accumulate karma for the OP. Only link posts do.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 03:50 AM
3

But, like, they get a lot more through the context of what they're saying! /s
/r/MensRights29/09/12 04:49 AM
2

It is with the proper precautions, controls, and overview. So long as safety and management cuts are made to fatten the bottom line, though, all you get is a short profit from another Deepwater Horizon-to-be. EDIT: I love that people seem to think that we don't need to maintain safety controls on offshore drilling. I'm actually discussing that, not some MR-related metaphor in this comment.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 04:48 AM
1

You should have posted the original article unless there was something new in the comments on Mensactivism.org that updated the story. Actually, I believe the original article was posted here last month when it was new.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 04:42 AM
2

Having read the article, I see where GT40 is coming from and pretty much agree that it puts men in a bad light (not just the MRAs, either). However, you're entirely correct that his opinion is uninformed, and he should read the damn article before espousing an opinion on it. Uninformed opinions are the territory of radfems and religious fundamentalists, and someone in this community shouldn't stoop to that low.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 04:37 AM
3

What I gleaned from that article that is actually worthwhile (not much, but pure gold for what is): Don't go living as a cog in the conservative job-machine or a slave of the matriarchy. Live your own life for what you enjoy and fuck the haters. (Not actual quote) The rest of it (jingoistic triumphalism of PUA, the encouragement of the alpha/beta male classes, the angry pride at pissing off women because of the excesses of gender feminism) is trash. But that underlying message above makes up for…
/r/MensRights29/09/12 04:04 AM
1

Yay!
/r/MensRights29/09/12 03:42 AM
2

I spread the word of female abuses against men through social media, but between my depression and the "verbal" abuses I've lately been receiving simply for voicing what's going on and my own opinions, I've been considering stepping away for a while.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 03:39 AM
1

OAG?
/r/MensRights29/09/12 03:34 AM
2

And because they continue to carry around the label "feminist", we continue to have the issue with the term being overloaded and used in a tug of war between egalitarians and gender-feminists, with the mainstream "feminists" being confused about who actually stands for equality.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:46 PM
3

Men would all be happier if we were all gay. I think I certainly would be. Too bad it doesn't work that way.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 02:57 PM
1

It's pretty much been demonstrated that where education and job are the same, men and women earn the same. Where men earn more is where we take on dangerous jobs that women won't go into, and that's men as an aggregate/average.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 01:28 PM
1

@emmamwoolley: @coldacid Yeah, no. None of that is accurate. @emmamwoolley: @coldacid I really don’t know where you’re getting that from. Feminism today is not any more about oppressing men than it ever was. @emmamwoolley: @coldacid (Which was not at all.) You make a lot of assumptions in that post, and I’m not surprised that people get angry. @emmamwoolley: @coldacid At its most basic, feminism fights for things like equal pay and ending violence. How does that harm men, exactly? @coldacid: @em…
/r/MensRights28/09/12 01:26 PM
2

Thing is, that's a reddit-specific issue. Mainstream self-proclaimed feminists can write it off as inconsequential or unrelated to feminism as a whole because of that. If we hit 'em with something, it has to be something unavoidable and systemic in their culture of misandry.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:14 AM
1

Where do we have advantages over women? Who's oppressed? I have a feeling that in some areas we do have social advantages over them (I will leave out physical ones as they can vary from person to person and are typically ignored/overridden by society anyway) but I am honestly hard pressed to point to anything that hasn't had decent evidence against it being an advantage for men.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 05:23 AM
4

I can see where you're coming from, but for me it has never seemed so urgent. (It doesn't hurt that I actually considered voluntary circumcision a while ago for health issues, but that's TMI.) We might just have to agree to disagree on this.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 05:20 AM
12

As an uncut guy, I don't know if I agree with you that MGM is the most important issue in men's rights activism. I think that false rape accusations, male rape (statutory, prison, or otherwise) and fathers' rights rank at the top. Then again, this movement is not monolithic. We each have our own particular worries (mine being economic and educational oppression of males) so having a "single most important issue" is probably a questionable concept.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:55 AM
1

Welcome to the family, TCB.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:52 AM
5

Well, I'm just going to block them from now on (possibly with a retort, but likely not). Let my karma run over their dogma.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:49 AM
3

I think it's only fair to include my tweets in the conversation with Emma, but as for PopeShakey, that argument just went on and on so I won't bother. Someone else can handle that. @coldacid: And another trolling misandrist gets blocked. So much anger against men who simply want equality. I should get used to #hatersgonnahate @emmamwoolley: @coldacid Or you could stop dismissing everyone who disagrees with you as a misandrist. Just a thought. @coldacid: @emmamwoolley maybe when they stop making …
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:47 AM
4

I call myself an equalist or egalitarian. I don't call myself an MRA (even if I am one) because for me men's rights is more a means than an end -- where women have societal advantages over us (education, post-marriage, punishment for crimes, etc.) I want to see things brought to equality, but at the same time where we have the advantage over women, feel they should be raised up to our level. In no case, though, should either side be dragged down to the level of the other. Oppression, one-sided o…
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:23 AM
2

I've been here in /r/MensRights for what feels like an eternity, so I wouldn't say I'm new to it. However, while in the past I restricted MR tweets to retweeting news about oppression against men in various forms, tonight I tweeted a link to an MR comment comparing feminist language to newspeak. Quickly did the shitstorm spread, including ad hominems against me: http://twitter.com/coldacid/status/251503496854138880 http://twitter.com/i/#!/search/to%3Acoldacid I ended up blocking quite a few user…
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:17 AM
1

No problem. I'm just a bit anal about language...
/r/MensRights28/09/12 03:25 AM
0

Man, that album sucked. Then again, nothing The Offspring did after Smash was as good as that or the albums before it.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 02:20 AM
1

Whereas "mis" carries the meaning of "hatred", which is far more appropriate than fear. The feminists aren't afraid of men, they hate men. Therefore, misandrist is the more appropriate term.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 02:09 AM
3

Uh, just want to point out it's "misandrists", but yes.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 02:05 AM
2

You say that like listening to Pearl Jam is a bad thing. :(
/r/MensRights27/09/12 08:41 PM
1

It's up there for me.
/r/MensRights27/09/12 03:26 AM
2

Depends how high you are when you watch the show.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 09:46 PM
8

This. If it happens, you lawyer up and head straight for a judge.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 03:53 PM
3

Tell the principal that she's threatening you because of your views, and show him or her the texts.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 03:49 PM
4

Don't most schools consider what happens to and from school as happening at school? If she and her friends jump you on the bus, or at the bus stop, etc. you can probably get the lot of them expelled for assault, and there's always charging them with assault with the police if they so much as touch you in a way you don't like.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 03:44 PM
2

Most women are reasonable and sane like most men, but those few who threaten violence over disagreements or having their dogma run over by facts really ruin it for everyone else. There's no conspiracy, it's just that the worst people are too visible with their batshit.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 03:41 PM
25

Because patriarchy! /s
/r/MensRights17/09/12 03:36 AM
0

Well, thanks to the blog author, that dumbness will be just a little slower to come about.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 06:59 PM
3

As a person from one of the many countries with a good social healthcare system, I'd say it would fall under that.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 02:45 AM
4

Well, not for honest people at least!
/r/MensRights10/09/12 01:21 AM
19

That's why some of us want mandatory genetic testing at birth for everyone.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 11:54 PM
6

Mainstream media, which often goes hand in hand with big money, authoritarian governments, and feminists.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 11:52 PM
43

He just barely avoided a literal spittake. It was awesome.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:03 AM
12

Not even considering any MR angle from this, but that man is my new hero. I could feel the heat of that burn all the way through the internet.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:02 AM
2

Most people just go for the word "pedophile" because of all the negative connotations, rather than be scientific about it. Considering the demonization most people (well, men primarily, yay "women are innocent") face for being interested in anyone under the age of 18, why be accurate when you can use the word second only to Nazi (if that) to make someone look bad? /s I swear, the sooner I get off this fucking rock, the better. I hate humans.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 11:42 PM
5

Technically, those women are hebephiles. Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescent children, and if you can knock someone up, you're not prepubescent at all. Not that it really makes it much better, but I'm a stickler for terms.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 11:20 PM
1

I'd rather just get rid of suffrage altogether and move to technical meritocracy. So long as politics is a game of popularity, fair and balanced government will not exist.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 03:10 AM
3

I wrote a letter to the editor-in-chief and Vancouver editor for OpenFile regarding the article: http://pastebin.com/juPgQAXx
/r/MensRights07/09/12 02:41 AM
7

I think the whole article is nothing more than an attempt to get the feminist's three minutes hate against us supported by the general public. The article is a straight-up propaganda piece.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 02:08 AM
3

The misandrist bias is strong with this article. Holy shit.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:56 AM
4

(Potentially) life-altering ultimatums are a sign of a dysfunctional relationship. rensin, up and go -- if she cares so much about controlling what you think and feel about, she's unworthy of you.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:32 AM
3

Hah, and they call us entitled.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:30 AM
2

Actually, the target should be Ontario's Minister of Health Deb Matthews, as well as Premier Dalton McGuinty. The other provinces do pay for Zytiga, as anyone who would have read the actual article instead of the Instapundit blogspam would know. Contacting one's MP would do no good, as healthcare is a provincial, not federal, concern.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 03:12 AM
1

Of misandrist or misogynist posts? For the former I tend to avoid SRS but a crawl-through should pull up a bunch. For the latter, I don't often comment in MR as much as I used to, but they pop up from time to time. Also, you can never be sure if something actually has been downvoted at all unless it actually has a negative karma score, thanks to vote fuzzing (it's an anti-spam thing reddit does). Not to mention that SRS agents will sometimes upvote misogyny in places like here in order to cause …
/r/MensRights22/08/12 12:51 PM
0

SRS alert!
/r/MensRights21/08/12 02:54 AM
1

Downvoted for concern trolling, but I do think we need to cover our asses a bit. Radfems did to mainstream (equalist) feminism what the Tea Party movement did to the US Republican Party, i.e., turned it into a radicalized, knee-jerk force of hate against anything they disagreed with. The last thing we need is to go down the same path by letting actual misogynists (or agents provocateurs of the radfems) hijack our movement and turn it into a radical movement as well. We're already hated enough ju…
/r/MensRights21/08/12 02:37 AM
1

Maybe so, but if there are "MRA"s using the movement to preach misogyny, we should do the right thing and call them out on it. Letting them continue on with their hate will make us no better than the mainstream feminists who let the radfems pull a coup of their movement and turned it into the misandrist movement it is today.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 02:30 AM
2

I'd say that goes beyond society and into the primal roots of our species.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 02:04 AM
1

I find it hard to be so optimistic, but I sure hope you're right.
/r/MensRights18/08/12 08:41 PM
1

No, even /r/atheism isn't that bad. I've had positive karma comments saying there is an upside to religion for some people in there.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 02:13 AM
1

I'm not sure. Certainly advertising does have its effects on us, but they tend to prey on insecurities or particular needs rather than reaffirming positives. I wish I had an answer to your question, but all I have I've offered. :(
/r/MensRights20/07/12 06:06 AM
2

If advertisements could educate, we'd all get our PhDs from going through glossy magazines. Ads do nothing more than get our attention quickly, often in shocking ways, and try to convince us to act in a certain way (whether it's to buy an unhealthy treat or be afraid of everyone around you). The last thing an ad will do is educate or inform.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 05:07 AM
1

Why can't people raise kids with things like "You are gonna do great things," "You are very smart," and "You can do anything" ? That's how I was raised, and didn't do me any good. Of course, that's just one person's experiences, but I find it hard to think that being raised with messages like those have much effect at all on the kid.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 05:04 AM
3

Both parties intoxicated isn't compatible to one sober and one intoxicated, nor to both sober. You're trying to compare apples to oranges, and ridiculing my calling you out on this. But going through some of your past comments, I can see that you really don't care. So, I'm just going to stick you on ignore so I don't have to deal with your bs any longer.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 05:01 AM
0

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand WHOOOOSH.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 04:44 AM
3

Rape ruins lives. False charges of rape (which is where false accusations tend to go to) also ruins lives. Except someone who is raped can, with time, recover and try to lead a good life afterwards. Someone who is falsely accused, especially if male, has their name and reputation dragged through the mud, and even if they're fortunate enough to be acquitted, the spectre of those charges will follow for the rest of his or her life. Imagine going and applying for a job. A lot of employers search Go…
/r/MensRights20/07/12 04:37 AM
0

Apples, meet Oranges.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 04:27 AM
1

RELATED -- maybe it is time to take this step.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 02:48 AM
4

Don't even bother with that. Disregard women, acquire personal happiness.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 03:27 AM
12

An investigation on the DA and PD associated with the case wouldn't hurt either.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 03:22 AM
1

If you intend to be sarcastic about something taken as serious business where you're posting, make sure to end the post (or any sarcastic statements in an otherwise serious post) with /s so that people recognize the fact. This is doubly important in places that have a history of being trolled by an opposition.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 02:53 AM
6

Then maybe it's time to move onto others.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 02:38 AM
1

Still too high of a risk. I'd rather get RISUG.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 07:44 PM
2

I agree with the thesis of the article, but I can't stand the bias of the website. Too fundie Christian for my liking.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 04:49 AM
2

Didn't think about sharing on Facebook; done. Thanks for the suggestion!
/r/MensRights19/06/12 10:28 PM
5

You're out of luck. Kickstarter only does Amazon Payments.
/r/MensRights19/06/12 01:15 AM
15

$5, wish I could do more but I'm poor :( http://i.imgur.com/5thld.png
/r/MensRights19/06/12 01:14 AM
7

Exactly. Sinister would be opening up all those redlinks and finding a "this page has been deleted before" notice on all (or the majority) of them, which would signify that they had been removed. But I just checked them for that, and there's no sign they had ever existed before.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 04:54 PM
4

That's amazing. Best of luck to Mr Quinn!
/r/MensRights18/06/12 04:36 PM
4

That I'd agree with.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 04:25 PM
1

I hope that won't be the case, but we'll have to see. By the way, did you notice that the bill will also change the caretaking presumption to explicitly be shared? It was only given a cursory mention, but may have greater positive effects than the new range of punishments for selfish parents.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 03:28 PM
6

Once submitted, a link title on reddit cannot be changed.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 02:59 PM
24

A wiki page doesn't need to exist in order to be linked. That's part of the point. You can find out how many pages link to red links to prioritize the content to add to the wiki.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 02:57 PM
1

140 characters aren't enough to be intelligent.
/r/MensRights16/06/12 08:57 PM
18

[citation needed]
/r/MensRights16/06/12 08:38 PM
12

Correct.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 12:49 AM
2

The "ham it up" line does make it sound like she's trying to be funny, but yeah, it's a bad choice of joke.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 09:43 PM
1

Yes, Vigdís was the first elected female president. However, the submission (and at time of my earlier comment, the blog post title) simply said "first female president".
/r/MensRights25/03/12 04:46 AM
3

But Isabel Perón became president of Argentina in 1974, so the claim that Vigdís was the first female president is still incorrect.
/r/MensRights24/03/12 04:00 PM
2

Originally, the former. Since the 80s, the latter.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 02:16 AM
1

Or religious ones... There's a reason I don't bother with /r/atheism anymore. It's a circlejerk of hate memes, rather than the place to discuss atheist issues that it used to be. I'll admit there's some issues here too, but it's nowhere near as bad as the radfems or /r/atheism.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 09:32 PM
5

I think it's because the dems actually try to hide their skeletons. The GOP put them forward as presidential candidates.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 09:30 PM
7

typical SRS user Something Awful subscriber Same thing. They're trolls, looking to rustle the jimmies of whoever they can.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 02:48 PM
13

Unfortunately, the moderate/equality feminist voices are almost always drowned out by the radical feminists, even though there's probably 20 of the former for every one of the latter. Moderates need to be more vocal of their views and shame the radicals back into the corner, before their entire movement becomes a gender-GOP.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 02:46 PM
1

Not just the police.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:36 AM
3

Apparently being considerate is an offense these days.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:01 PM
2

Note to self: Don't offer help to anyone without testicles. FTFY
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:01 PM
3

Probably end up with the boyfriend being the one arrested. Women just can't assault a guy, only the other way around! /s
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:56 PM
4

It's safer if you do.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 05:26 AM
2

The "spectrum" is really an n-dimensional space where n is the number of issues that can be discretely presented in a spectrum (social liberty, political liberty, economic liberty, etc.). It's not a line, it doesn't circle around, and it features a potentially infinite number of variables to determine the coordinates of one's political stance.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 05:06 AM
2

Not everyone has RES. Shame, really.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 04:52 AM
2

Around the same time that people actually remembered ebaumsworld existed. You know, pre-reddit.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 04:38 AM
3

Because a lot of people are willingly ignorant and only believe that you can only improve one group's lot by dragging the other group down -- not by lifting the first group up to the second's level.
/r/MensRights18/03/12 04:36 AM
2

Make sure you have all your documentation of that somewhere safe, and preferably duplicated and notarized in another location.
/r/MensRights17/03/12 05:04 AM
5

Don't be a fool. Don't use your tool. Safer. Better.
/r/MensRights17/03/12 04:59 AM
1

Feminism isn't a war on men. For some, it is. And unfortunately, those radicals get a lot more attention than those who just want to balance things out.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 03:20 AM
1

Left-wing special interest groups and power-hungry minority groups. Moderates need not apply.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 05:08 PM
2

Sounds like a job for a LOIC botnet.
/r/MensRights19/02/12 01:31 PM
3

Hah, even then the father gets stuck with the bills.
/r/MensRights19/02/12 04:25 AM
1

Thank you.
/r/MensRights17/02/12 06:21 PM
2

Actually, it's just copypasta. He probably grabbed it off KYM.
/r/MensRights17/02/12 04:53 AM
11

Punctuation, please? I'm finding it hard to understand what you're trying to say. I'm not being some stuck-up grammar nazi, either, I am actually having difficulty with it.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 11:33 PM
1

I didn't think of it that way. I've been feeling like a cornered rat with all the problems going on in my life right now, that fight-or-flight's been pretty much taking top priority. (My issues aren't of the MRA variety so I won't go into them here.) I've been contemplating doing certain things in public that would shame those responsible for these feelings, at the risk (or cost) of my own life, so it's been easy for me to lash out at those who are taking a more moderate approach. It's hard, tho…
/r/MensRights13/01/12 02:43 PM
24

$5000 now is nothing compared to the tens of thousands of dollars you'll never make if this doesn't get cleared up.
/r/MensRights12/01/12 09:49 PM
-6

If I were in this same position, I would sacrifice myself as a martyr. Don't act like you think you know me.
/r/MensRights12/01/12 09:35 PM
0

Any who would shrink from their cause to keep their head is unworthy of it in the first place.
/r/MensRights12/01/12 05:23 PM
2

http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/ocmde/mobile_devices_are_my_sworn_enemy_or_how_someone/c3g7a8a
/r/MensRights12/01/12 05:12 PM
13

I'd say start off with naming the school, the administrators, and the professor who ran the proceedings. Complain openly to your state's authorities on colleges. Start pestering the attorney general's office until they talk to you. Raise hell in every direction you know, and three more that you don't.
/r/MensRights12/01/12 05:04 PM
0

Because women are perfect little princesses! /s
/r/MensRights07/01/12 03:11 AM
2

Just as telling are the poor connections between opposing points in some of those bullets. We need a list like this, but one that is actually defensible and highly sourced.
/r/MensRights07/01/12 03:07 AM
2

Nope, not yet.
/r/MensRights07/01/12 03:02 AM
0

Can't tell if serious or replying to sarcasm with more sarcasm.
/r/MensRights23/12/11 06:54 PM
2

Ghastly all up in yo grills, bizaches!
/r/MensRights19/12/11 05:39 AM
2

How many troll subs do you moderate, anyway?
/r/MensRights01/12/11 11:49 PM
6

Perhaps, but the moral of the story is on target.
/r/MensRights01/12/11 11:43 PM
1

Same boat, here. If I had the cash, I'd go somewhere where I could get RISUG performed on me.
/r/MensRights01/12/11 11:42 PM
0

I know you're not supposed to, but I always just flushed 'em down right away.
/r/MensRights23/11/11 12:26 AM
0

Original source. Imagine the reaction we'd get if we tried these kinds of relationship tricks on women. "Possessive," "stalker," things like that. Fuck that shit.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 08:57 PM
3

Link, please.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 09:00 PM
2

He survived, my money's on a circ saw. The bigger safety guard would make it harder to manuver in and cut, whereas a recip could likely easily reach the main blood vessels of the neck and cut them quickly. Another point is that a circular saw is visibly big enough to be able to cut through someone's neck, if you know what you're doing. With the recip, you can cut flesh on the outside of the neck, but most home models aren't big enough to cut all the way through and totally decapitate someone. Th…
/r/MensRights18/10/11 06:13 PM
2

Yep. spagma gives a good summary of it.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 06:04 PM
1

Indeed.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 04:22 AM
1

I don't know how it is in Britain, but as far as I know, they could be screening prospective immigrants against certain genetic conditions that would cause them to "be a drain" on NHS were they granted permanent residency or citizenship status. Plus, I hear they like to swab and store samples from people "just in case". Could be that I'm paranoid, but I could totally see the land of Big Brother doing things like that.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 10:20 PM
5

She said: “The thing that we have to take into account is that we do a lot of DNA tests for immigration purposes where the paternity of the child is not even in question. Sounds to me more like the paternity findings aren't the primary reason for the tests in many cases, actually.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 11:49 PM
1

There are programs that look through the history of a file in source control and tell you who committed which lines. But nobody bothers with those unless someone breaks the build.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 11:37 PM
1

Good, helpful advice to men usually gets at least a few by the ever-present femnazi downvote brigade. Don't let it worry you.
/r/MensRights17/09/11 10:46 PM
1

Other way around, I thought.
/r/MensRights17/09/11 09:50 PM
6

1/10
/r/MensRights17/09/11 01:03 AM
1

It's not a smartphone.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 12:26 AM
2

None that would guarantee you anything of what you want, but you could always walk out, live somewhere else instead (immediately; couch-surf if you have to) and only communicate with her through a mutually trusted third party or lawyer.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 12:24 AM
2

You think that because you have reality on your side that that will matter I try to avoid "this" posts, but, THIS. These people don't live in the same reality as the rest of us. Sure, they are in the same universe as us, but their brains are somewhere completely different. OP, you cannot win by refuting their bullshit, especially if you do so in a shit-disturbing manner. The only thing you can do is counter their talk with worthwhile action, outside of these temporary prisons they set up to brai…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 12:16 AM
1

How about we average it out? 2.5/10?
/r/MensRights12/09/11 10:16 PM
3

3/10
/r/MensRights12/09/11 02:53 AM
1

Not surprising, shit cops are everywhere.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 02:46 AM
3

Yeah, but this planet created us, it has to shoulder some of the blame too.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 06:35 PM
-2

Yeah, I caught that just now on the Topeka Capital-Journal article linked there. Still, I bet she would have gotten a lot more time if she were a guy instead.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 06:28 PM
-2

A 20-year-old Topeka woman has been sentenced to nearly five years in prison for a fatal shooting on the campus of Topeka West High School. Also, your username lies.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 06:23 PM
4

Unfortunately, people are complete fucking idiots, and so perception is more important than reality when having to deal with them. ... I fucking hate this planet.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 06:20 PM
-3

Five years? If the shooter had been a man, I bet you it would have been life. Obvious pussy pass at work here.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 06:08 PM
8

Haven't you heard? Men can't be raped! /s
/r/MensRights10/09/11 06:05 PM
1

Are you really nitpicking on a turn of phrase?
/r/MensRights04/09/11 08:41 PM
1

I believe that under the way Britain deals with what they consider crime, that would be in-line with what's actually worth punishing.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 07:17 PM
2

What do you expect from a society that has been increasingly coddling its "weaker" elements (women and kids) for the last 40-50 years?
/r/MensRights04/09/11 07:16 PM
1

Sure it did, though. If it was some random girl the dude boffed in the elevator, they'd probably still get some time for the abandonment and public exposure, but not the list. But because incest is considered icky, dude gets put on the list. It's stupid, but that's generally how it goes down.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 07:15 PM
0

I thought that too, at that age. I grew up, though.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 07:13 PM
1

Well, they don't appear to be the type to have the money or inclination to pay a fine. 30 days lockup might be good for the two of them.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 05:40 AM
0

No, that was for the incest. But child abandonment/endangerment, even if only for a couple minutes, is still a pretty shitty thing. I say they could use some time, but not for the sex.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 05:02 AM
3

Just not in public areas. Like elevators at train stations.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 03:50 AM
1

Because incest is icky.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 03:50 AM
1

That's what I said. 11.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 03:44 AM
3

They did leave an 11 year old they were supervising alone on the rail platform.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 12:07 AM
1

You can be nude in private as well, but a lot of people still have issues with that.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 05:53 PM
0

Why is nudity such a big deal anyhow? Because a lot of otherwise progressive people are still absolute prudes when it comes to letting it all hang out.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 06:50 AM
1

I'll bet it can. I just won't bet on when.
/r/MensRights14/07/11 06:49 AM
1

If I was going to reply to that post, I would have replied to it and not the one I did reply to. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights04/07/11 05:13 AM
0

Why has it not been updated? Cause Microsoft doesn't care. Incidentally, the reddit spellcheck does think "men's" is a word. (But not "reddit") Do you see a mention of Google Docs in there? I sure don't.
/r/MensRights03/07/11 11:34 PM
9

And if the woman says no? We can't force paternity tests yet.
/r/MensRights27/06/11 01:40 AM
3

Cool story bro. (ref - nsfw)
/r/MensRights25/06/11 07:53 AM
-1

Downvoted because Microsoft has nothing to do with this, since a) spell check is a per-application issue, not OS supplied (at least on Windows) and b) Microsoft's own dictionaries for Office do include "men's". Thank you for your misinformed FUDdy opinion, have a nice day.
/r/MensRights21/06/11 01:40 AM
1

Windows Mobile and Windows Phone (yeah they're different) have system dictionaries, due to sharing common input editors. Windows proper leaves spell check to applications, which may or may not have spell check support.
/r/MensRights21/06/11 01:36 AM
1

I sure hope someone will sit that kid down when she's older and explain to her how the system took her daddy away.
/r/MensRights17/06/11 07:26 PM
6

As a Canadian who has had to listen to his music, I respectfully disagree. This is the only time where this is deserved. (EDIT: Just kidding, but seriously, Nickelback is shit. Having to listen to it is a cruel punishment.)
/r/MensRights21/05/11 05:02 AM
2

This is a seriousness-tending subreddit. Please remember to use /s at the end of comments if you're being sarcastic, or some of us won't realize it.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:08 AM
5

I know. I could feel my braincells dying as I read it myself.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 08:07 AM
8

No matter how you cut it, there's pretty much no way any guy, straight, gay, or otherwise, doesn't hit at least one point on that list. So, according to this woman, we all support rape. What the shit.
/r/MensRights20/05/11 12:04 AM
1

From the Wired article, it seemed to be political intervention with claims of improper testing, in India. But since some American team did similar tests with the same results, phase III trials resumed in India.
/r/MensRights24/04/11 10:11 PM
1

I'm curious as to how it could be an anti-HIV agent, though. I'm no medical scientist, but can't HIV travel through other channels during sex, not just via sperm itself? i.e. mini-cuts, etc? And what about f->m transmission? I'd trust RISUG to keep me safe from impregnating a woman out for my wallet, but not for disease prevention.
/r/MensRights24/04/11 10:09 PM
1

I found out about this in the May issue of Wired. It's in phase 3 trials in India, but not that far advanced elsewhere.
/r/MensRights24/04/11 12:24 AM
3

reporting your sorry pasta-as-fuck comments and accounts. u mad sis?
/r/MensRights12/04/11 10:01 PM
3

ya he mad.
/r/MensRights12/04/11 09:57 PM
2

I've no problem with those phrases... provided they're being said by a guy.
/r/MensRights20/03/11 05:03 PM
4

I hope you wore face masks when you smashed the bulbs. Powdered mercury is not exactly something you want to be breathing in.
/r/MensRights16/03/11 06:31 PM
16

It was.
/r/MensRights14/03/11 06:28 PM
1

Oh, yes.
/r/MensRights25/02/11 12:54 AM
1

Call it obsession. I nearly jumped out of my chair in joy when Stack Overflow added edit queues for questions and answers, since it meant I could finally start fixing all the damned spelling and grammar mistakes I saw every day!
/r/MensRights24/02/11 11:59 PM
1

That's oversight. Oversite would be being above a location.
/r/MensRights24/02/11 11:15 PM
2

The reviewer's a guy.
/r/MensRights24/02/11 10:27 PM
2

Given her orientation, it's not that surprising she didn't realize it.
/r/MensRights24/02/11 10:26 PM
1

Eh, I believe in equal rights. If they want to suffer like everyone else, let them. :p
/r/MensRights22/02/11 04:12 PM
8

Sad, but it happens a lot more than you'd think.
/r/MensRights22/02/11 03:50 PM
1

No, just a jobless pissant with an axe to grind.
/r/MensRights22/02/11 03:50 PM
2

Are you me?
/r/MensRights22/02/11 03:41 PM
9

You should unite the children to express your disdain towards what your mum did. That's honestly the only thing she will truly care about. Don't be so sure that she'll care.
/r/MensRights22/02/11 03:39 PM
0

They're just as issued as any North American or European woman. Once the novelty wears off, you'll regret it.
/r/MensRights15/02/11 04:19 AM
1

Yeah, I only made it that far myself.
/r/MensRights12/02/11 11:09 PM
4

Let's leave it at paternity testing. I'd rather things not turn into Gattaca.
/r/MensRights12/02/11 02:02 PM
1

Protip: He's doing it for the downvotes.
/r/MensRights07/02/11 02:15 AM
1

Unless they're genuinely amusing. (Which this one ain't.)
/r/MensRights07/02/11 02:14 AM
2

Indeed. May I suggest this one to Chowley_1, perhaps?
/r/MensRights07/02/11 02:12 AM
4

I'm okay with this... Those drinks are overpriced and watered down anyway.
/r/MensRights05/01/11 03:05 PM
1

Because he's The Troll King. Problem? trollface.jpg
/r/MensRights05/01/11 02:50 PM
1

He's acting butt-hurt, but he's not. YHBT.
/r/MensRights28/12/10 01:52 PM
0

Unfortunately it's that ease of labelling as "hateful" with the legal penalties that come with it it, that leaves Canadians like myself without meaningful free speech protections. Today it's talk about minorities and interest groups; tomorrow it's about whoever's in power.
/r/MensRights26/12/10 04:56 AM
2

Hey, that's mean! We're as real as you.
/r/MensRights06/12/10 11:27 AM
1

Yeah, but it's not good because of male role models, it's good because the producers actually care about what they make, for the most part -- unlike most American animation producers.
/r/MensRights24/11/10 03:17 PM
1

I stopped reading the Onion after real life got stranger.
/r/MensRights18/11/10 11:39 PM
2

Pedantip: It's not paedophilia if the "kid" is post-pubescent. It's ebebophilia then.
/r/MensRights14/11/10 12:16 PM
3

Sue her. Get her name and the facts of the case out in public for all to see. Shame the bitch.
/r/MensRights03/11/10 07:49 PM
1

Back when I was in grade school and high school (so long ago, I feel old) I enjoyed my own reading selections more than I ever did the assigned books for classes. Of course, sci-fi and technical manuals are downright thrilling compared to the tedious young adult lit out there.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 04:17 PM
1

Dohoho
/r/MensRights31/10/10 04:08 PM
1

Fucking thirded.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 03:55 PM
1

Fuck that. If someone starts trying that shit, I'm gonna start busting caps. We need to start organizing fighters for freedom from these PC nazis.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 03:38 PM
1

Not at much as people think, but certainly far more so than most popular languages.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 03:33 PM
3

Psst... I think that's the reference.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 03:33 PM
1

Yeah, here in Canada it wouldn't be a statutory crime unless the boys felts they'd been raped. Between 12 and 16, if the age difference is two or less years, it's legit.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 03:24 PM
3

I wouldn't have downvoted you, but for "Bring on the downvotes". You did this to yourself.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 03:17 PM
5

pulls out an empty hooch jug and starts blowing air over it
/r/MensRights29/10/10 01:56 AM
1

Yeah. Just don't be seen alone with the kid in public and you'll be safe.
/r/MensRights28/10/10 11:53 AM
2

That only works because Europeans are actually sensible. Out here in the Americas, or in Australia, it would never be allowed in the first place.
/r/MensRights22/10/10 05:16 AM
3

Other countries are trying to follow suit, though.
/r/MensRights28/08/10 03:56 PM
-4

Well, it's Texas, so maybe not.
/r/MensRights28/03/10 05:33 PM
2

That's not the case in my family, but I treat it as such anyway. >:D
/r/MensRights22/03/10 03:09 PM
1

Apparently.
/r/MensRights22/03/10 03:08 PM
2

Please rephrase as a FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU comic, kthx.
/r/MensRights22/03/10 03:08 PM
2

In that case, it is in our best interests to continue to promote an inflated value for diamonds, at least to those who would blow us, in order to best reap the rewards of this potential blowjob windfall. Because once the cat's out of that bag, we'll never have that sort of luck again. :p
/r/MensRights19/03/10 05:32 PM
4

Now that's gonna get you a blow job! Not when every other girl is being offered a stone the weight of three pick-up trucks as well. Remember, when the price drops that low for you, it does so for everyone else, too.
/r/MensRights19/03/10 01:21 PM
3

There are a lot of idiots on every side of this struggle, and what may be obvious to you or me might not be so to others. crypto is right in pointing that out, for the simple reason that there are clueless people about.
/r/MensRights16/03/10 11:15 PM
1

This is why electing your district/crown attorneys is a bad idea. You get evil people who will prosecute anything and everything, just to keep themselves in business. No different from any other politician.
/r/MensRights16/03/10 11:11 PM
1

Something like we have here in Canada, where it's all good if you're within two years of your partner?
/r/MensRights16/03/10 11:08 PM
1

Yeah, they still need to remove that wedlock law from the books, but at least Idaho's taken one sensible step.
/r/MensRights16/03/10 11:07 PM
1

I dunno if it's wrong for it to be here, but I agree that it should be in /r/WTF. Here you go.
/r/MensRights12/03/10 11:13 AM
1

If you read the text underneath the pic, you would have seen that this is an attack on that chick's bumper sticker and its fail-laden opinion.
/r/MensRights01/03/10 05:58 PM
1

Agreed. She's getting what's coming to her.
/r/MensRights01/03/10 05:51 PM
1

How soon until this is out of trials and available to men everywhere?
/r/MensRights19/02/10 01:47 AM
6

I rarely treat anyone as enemies on reddit, even if they have an opposing viewpoint. I generally only downvote trolls, flamebait, and other nasty posts -- but I always downvote such.
/r/MensRights09/02/10 01:56 AM
6

Trolling. On those grounds some of HalfJack's comments should be downvoted too, to be honest. ('Cept that communities usually defend their own. At least that's my reason for not downvoting his troll/bait comments.) EDIT: Actually, on a second read-through, none of his here come off as trolling or flamebait.
/r/MensRights09/02/10 01:48 AM
1

Well, I think people who can understand sarcasm will get the point of these comments. I hope.
/r/MensRights09/02/10 01:33 AM
10

There are some things evil can't do. For everything else, there's Snidely Whiplash.
/r/MensRights09/02/10 01:30 AM
-1

Ah, Urban Dictionary. You never cease to make me LOL.
/r/MensRights08/02/10 03:10 PM
2

Then we should pity those who believe these lies to be truth, even if there's no hope to open their eyes to the falsehoods that they perceive.
/r/MensRights06/02/10 04:10 AM
1

Is it still a lie if she really believes it, though? I always thought that lying meant deliberately stating a falsehood. And given how those movements indoctrinate people, the presenter could have thought she was telling the truth. Don't forget there are guys too who are part of this movement, who oppose those of us who want the scales to balance out. No more lies from the women-first camp, and no more indoctrination either, tyvm.
/r/MensRights05/02/10 09:54 PM
3

I'm probably too much of a cynical asshole to be accepted as a BB, but I certainly recommend that other, more optimistic men do join and help our the next generation of men. Show them that it's good be men, that they shouldn't be ashamed of their gender.
/r/MensRights30/01/10 04:22 AM
7

Newsworthy, yes, but why is this in /r/MensRights?
/r/MensRights27/01/10 03:44 AM
2

This, absolutely. It sounds like the whole point of this law is to keep men from finding women elsewhere. Nothing more than another trick to keep them under local thumbs.
/r/MensRights23/01/10 01:05 PM
1

Because the con job itself isn't as painful as the damage the circumcision does to the boy. What's a thousand dollars when you lose something important to your health and overall being?
/r/MensRights23/01/10 12:41 PM
5

No, the mistaken perception that all fathers can pay child support and choose not to when they're unemployed is part of the overall problem.
/r/MensRights23/12/09 05:38 PM
6

Haha, not on this planet. Family courts hate fathers.
/r/MensRights23/12/09 01:57 AM
3

The point is to draw attention to the inequity; wearing a kilt, or a lady's skirt, will certainly draw attention, and then you can explain the reason for it.
/r/MensRights06/12/09 03:33 AM
3

Then fight fire with fire. Wear a kilt. And if anyone asks why, explain the situation to them, say it's a protest against short skirts.
/r/MensRights05/12/09 05:25 PM
9

Yeah, because all women have are their looks. What bullshit. If you need to look like a goddamn Barbie doll to feel valuable, you're living life wrong.
/r/MensRights05/12/09 05:24 PM
2

I'm not going to get involved with killing people. At least, not until the revolution comes. Then I'll make sure the right people go up against the wall.
/r/MensRights04/12/09 08:27 PM
0

Not too likely that the Indians would get into that, even for others, they have their own cultural hang-ups which would make that unpalatable for them. The Chinese, though, I can see that.
/r/MensRights04/12/09 04:27 PM
5

It doesn't matter if I intend to stick with that person if she doesn't intend to stick with me.
/r/MensRights04/12/09 03:54 PM
1

Well I was thinking human cloning, but that's still a ways off, and technically illegal in most places anyway.
/r/MensRights04/12/09 02:16 PM
10

Between crap like this and judges completely ignoring pre-nups, I am seriously starting to believe that marriage is a bad choice for anyone to take. I want kids, but not so badly that I'll open myself to being fucked over so royally. What's the option so guys like us don't get breeded out by the male pushovers?
/r/MensRights04/12/09 01:51 PM
3

Exactly. The solution to that kind of problem are a call to the cops followed in short order with one to the lawyer. Bonus points if you have some way in your house of recording her behaviour and actions as evidence.
/r/MensRights01/12/09 04:45 PM
0

This sounds an awful like Canadian "common law marriages" and until someone tells me otherwise, I can't help but see this as a non-issue, from my Canuck perspective.
/r/MensRights25/11/09 03:46 AM
0

Damn my regularly placed cheekbones. I have the manner down pat, though.
/r/MensRights25/11/09 03:41 AM
0

Ambivalent here. On the one hand, some important things are pointed out; on the other, we're talking WND, with all the wife-beating, Church-three-times-a-day crap that comes with. Upvoted for now, but taken with a grain or two of salt.
/r/MensRights25/11/09 03:39 AM
0

What. The. FUCK.
/r/MensRights25/11/09 03:25 AM
1

Between this and that post about the duct-taped stop sign, I don't know whether to laugh or cry about Alaska.
/r/MensRights10/11/09 03:17 AM
4

Sic transit gloria femini.
/r/MensRights10/11/09 03:12 AM
2

Don't worry, if you don't, some man-hating radical will.
/r/MensRights27/10/09 02:25 PM
3

And then the cops send him back home? Yikes. And I thought cops in North America were hardasses.
/r/MensRights23/10/09 02:36 PM
0

They only hate it when it's done to them. They don't see a problem with doing it to others, though.
/r/MensRights23/10/09 02:35 PM
0

Doesn't look like it would be, though...
/r/MensRights23/10/09 02:32 PM
2

LOL.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 05:09 AM
0

I wholly support Mr. Spence's ideas, and if I lived in Toronto itself, I would make myself available to help further them.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 03:37 AM
3

TBH I didn't get the idea that this article is very feminist. In fact, the author seems just as freaked out by the issue as you. Also, there's already selection bias in some parts of the world, such as the middle east and China, but leaning towards having boys. In either direction, it's still sick.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 03:27 AM
0

This is why I'd never have kids with a woman who smokes, drinks more than infrequently, or prefers junk food to real food. Boy or girl doesn't matter, but health sure does. Of course, given my luck so far, and from what I've read here since joining reddit, I think I'll wait until there's ovary banks to have kids.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 03:26 AM
0

It really is, in either direction. A mind virus for some (the desire for male or female progeny is a meme) and some do obsess over it to the point that they would be considered mentally ill.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 03:21 AM
2

Lesbians. End of story, buddy.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 03:17 AM
2

Car commercials. At least, they used to be before this latest green wave.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 03:11 AM
10

That stupid fucking Axe commercial where the guy turns into chocolate and gets eaten by all the girls around him. I hate that commercial.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 03:10 AM
2

Just because I behave morally and ethically doesn't mean that others will too.
/r/MensRights22/10/09 03:08 AM
3

It's still aggravated assault.
/r/MensRights21/10/09 12:34 AM
3

Six months? If a bunch of guys did something like this to a girl, or even another guy, they'd be jailed for a few years at least. Biased sentence is biased.
/r/MensRights20/10/09 11:44 PM
1

I hate the system.
/r/MensRights20/10/09 11:38 PM
0

Would be nice if I didn't need a Scribd account to download it.
/r/MensRights20/10/09 04:02 AM
1

Crap, that should have been "ourselves". "Ourself" isn't a word.
/r/MensRights20/10/09 04:00 AM
3

Don't delude yourself.
/r/MensRights09/10/09 05:31 AM
4

Crap like this makes me wish I was gay instead.
/r/MensRights09/10/09 05:29 AM
2

That DiManno even works for the Star is a travesty, considering she's a complete apologist for the Bush presidency. Why she doesn't write for the slack-jawed neo-con rag Toronto Sun is beyond me.
/r/MensRights05/10/09 07:46 PM
6

Over 9000 falcon punches simultaneously.
/r/MensRights05/10/09 07:45 PM
0

Because it's hard to control things like that without holding everyone involved. Just imagine the outrage if the police locked up every woman who accused someone of rape, whether or not it actually happened? People talk, news spreads. And the cost of discouraging people from making false reports is much less than the cost of dealing with them after the fact. Ounce of prevention, pound of cure?
/r/MensRights30/09/09 01:08 AM
1

WTF? How does tax reform help in this case?
/r/MensRights29/09/09 10:11 PM
1

Keep thinking with your dick like that, and you'll only propagate the stereotype that men just judge women by their looks.
/r/MensRights29/09/09 10:09 PM
0

Epic reversal! Upvoted.
/r/MensRights27/09/09 08:07 AM
2

Larry Dallas, is that you?
/r/MensRights21/09/09 11:38 PM
0

Haven't you heard? Courts are just as likely to screw you even with a pre-nup. Many of them are thrown out even when brought to the court's attention.
/r/MensRights27/07/09 04:27 AM
0

Open marriages aren't, though (except in states where adultery is still on the books). Open marriage doesn't mean you're marrying a bunch of people, it's an open relationship with the socioeconomic benefits of legal (and religious, I suppose) marriage.
/r/MensRights27/07/09 04:25 AM
0

Not in Canada you wouldn't say that. Else the "human rights" kangaroo courts would have your ass on a gold platter.
/r/MensRights27/07/09 04:16 AM
1

This pretty much boils down to religious rights vs. rights of the child. Personally, my support falls on the side of the child, who might decide to choose their own religious beliefs rather than take those pressed on them by family. Great work, doctors of Sweden! thumbs up
/r/MensRights27/07/09 04:15 AM
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ZING!
/r/MensRights27/07/09 04:11 AM
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You can be wrong about something 99 times, but that doesn't mean that the one time you are right about something, you're still wrong. Truth is truth, no matter what bullshit you might otherwise be spouting alongside it.
/r/MensRights23/07/09 11:00 PM
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Wow, these guys sound like Scientologists. Creepy.
/r/MensRights20/07/09 04:59 PM
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This site has issues. Sadly, it's about a real problem at the same time, and might end up making things worse.
/r/MensRights20/07/09 12:54 AM
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Are people really so stupid as to not plan for kids in the pre-nup though? You'd think that if the possibility of children was taken into consideration in the pre-nup that'd be grounds for preventing a rejection if a couple had some.
/r/MensRights20/07/09 12:38 AM
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Agreed. Misoandry is every bit as bad as misogyny.
/r/MensRights13/07/09 11:14 PM
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I wouldn't go so far as call Rumsfeld good (he ain't) but otherwise 100% what you said.
/r/MensRights13/07/09 10:52 PM
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His wife's take on it is a great read for anyone who gets their panties in a twist over the original rant: http://www.mrsdutoit.com/index.php/main/single/2969/
/r/MensRights13/07/09 10:42 PM
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Hyperbole much? Still, there's more than a few chunks in here that ring entirely true.
/r/MensRights13/07/09 10:18 PM
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WAT
/r/MensRights23/09/08 07:08 AM
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