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I hate to break it to you, but you don’t get to just decide something is a lie when it doesn’t confirm your beliefs and you don’t like it. Maybe where you live traditional gender roles are more universally embraced and that’s why you think it doesn’t reflect reality? I live in a progressive American city and it lines up pretty well with my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:01 AM
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Define “metrosexual” for us? My husband is absolutely 100% my best friend. Where did you get the idea that women are against that? I personally can’t imagine it any other way. He gets along great with gay guys too, my brother is gay and the two of them have a really good relationship. His own brother is also gay, and he has friendships with gay/bisexual men and women alike. We’re going to a pride event with some of them tomorrow lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:33 PM
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It doesn’t make sense to dismiss the roughly one third of couples who have an egalitarian arrangement, which may be a minority but still a very significant one, and it’s steadily growing. You’re also conveniently ignoring the fact that the frequency of men being the primary or sole breadwinner has decreased over time and will most likely continue to decrease. Also worth noting is that per the same pew research data, men are generally less comfortable with the idea of women earning more than them…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:33 PM
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55%-60% is a majority but not a large one. It’s also trending down over time. How many people do you know with blue eyes? Because in the US it’s only 27% (8-10% globally) yet odds are you know, have seen, or at least know of blue eyed people. By your logic they practically don’t exist, though. If you know 10 people who are married, statistically, 3 of them are in egalitarian marriages and 1 or 2 have a female breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:49 PM
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I’m a 5’2” woman and can count on one hand the amount of men I’ve ever encountered who are even remotely close to my own height. Where exactly are all these tiny elusive Indian janitors they speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:34 PM
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Ok? Im also not violent. Never have been. Are men suddenly not as violent as I am? Sorry I’m not sure I understand what you mean by this. I wasn’t suggesting that egalitarian relationships were the norm, or that the cultural expectation of a male provider isn’t real, only that it’s very unlikely for you to know no one at all. Gingers aren’t the norm either but if you live in a part of the world with many people of European descent you’ve probably still seen them occasionally. Or…interacted with …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:10 PM
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You don’t actually know anyone in those positions That’s a really bold assumption. I know many folks in egalitarian LTR/marriages and I’m in one myself. My mom is a doctor, she’s the breadwinner in her relationship, and she definitely did not raise me with the message that a man is meant to be a provider. Just in this sub alone I’ve seen loads of others in similar situations. Unless you live in a highly religious area or something I find it very hard to believe you don’t know anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:34 PM
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I wish redpill guys would realize that quality relationships > quantity of relationships. I was my husband’s first and last girlfriend, but we’re best friends and have compatibility as individuals, so we’ve been together 13 years. Having just one person who genuinely loves you in an authentic way is is so much more rewarding than broadly appealing to a variety of people superficially.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:16 PM
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Well I was not much more experienced than him, so there wasn’t much of a past to speak of lol. Neither of us were ever interested in casual sex outside a relationship anyway although I’m certain if that were different he wouldn’t have looked down on me for it. Our situation was unique because we met online (organically, not through a dating site) and didn’t actually have sex until 2 years in because we were long distance. His lack of experience was never an issue for me, we got to learn and gain…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:38 AM
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Oh, I did not mean to imply virgin = incel! There’s very much a difference. My husband was also a virgin with social anxiety until we met, I was his first relationship. I was talking specifically about incels, which to me is defined more by a mindset and ideology than lack of sexual experience. I think the key difference is that incels allow their rejection and the loneliness they feel to make them resentful, “late bloomers” (while still often lonely) do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:04 AM
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I don’t disagree with you. I truly believe that the incel mindset is not really about sex at all - it’s about the need to feel desired, validated and worthy of love. That’s why going to a sex worker isn’t an appealing option to most of them. It’s transactional, so it won’t really fill that void. But if you project your hurt and self loathing onto others instead of working to heal those wounds you will never find the love and acceptance you’re looking for. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:37 PM
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Nothing wrong with those hobbies, they’re just more niche. Consider joining a mixed gender D&D group or something or attending cons. Nerdy girls are plentiful in nerdy spaces. My mom’s partner is a diagnosed autistic meganerd in his 50’s, he was married for like a decade before his kids’ mother passed away and had other relationships in between too. He is a pretty average looking dude, but I’ve never seen my mom happier with any other man. There’s always hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 11:03 PM
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You don’t represent all women. Most women care about height , penis size and income. I’m not disputing that. Some folks do care, to varying degrees depending on the person, and some folks don’t care at all, even if it’s a minority. I’m only speaking for myself and have never suggested otherwise. I have no intention of erasing anyone else’s lived experience because it’s different than my own, just as I wouldn’t want my experience erased by broad generalizations that don’t represent me. The point …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:40 PM
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Where did I do that? No idea how you got that idea from what I wrote. I never claim to speak for all women or anyone other than myself. The issue I’m complaining about is when I speak FOR MYSELF and am then met with accusations that I’m lying because some women feel differently than I do. If I say “personally, a man’s height doesn’t matter to me” and then I’m met with, “Liar. You’d cheat on your husband with a tall Chad if given the chance.” An actual interaction I’ve had on this sub. Never once…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:19 PM
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Thank you for clarifying. My original comment was mostly referring to people who post things like, “women who claim to want a good man are lying, the fact that hot criminals get girlfriends while I don’t proves this!” I cannot speak for those women who date criminals, and I have no idea what they specifically claim to look for in a man. But I value kindness and empathy in a partner, so I married a kind, gentle and loving man. Unless you truly don’t know a single “good man” in a relationship, cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:32 PM
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Okay? Again, a survey using a sample from dating apps represents women on dating apps. I’m still failing to see how this warrants accusations of lying when someone’s individual preference differs from those. Because that is what my comment is about. Selectively believing only women whose experiences validate your own narrative, and rejecting the experiences of women who don’t. Not what the majority of women on tinder or okcupid (or even reddit) do or don’t find attractive. I don’t claim to speak…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:48 PM
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It’s much easier to cope with rejection when you can villainize women for being, supposedly, all excessively shallow and holding you to unreasonable standards. Now she comes across as cruel, and him as the victim of an unfair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:32 PM
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This isn’t about debating whether or not there are common trends in subjective preference. It’s about acting as if the existence of a trend delegitimizes any deviation from the trend, and the immediate dismissal of that which doesn’t align with the trend as being disingenuous. I am not lying or hypocritical when I say height isn’t important to me in a man, just because it’s generally common for women to prefer tall men (also preference doesn’t necessarily mean requirement, but that’s a discussio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:02 PM
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Certain preferences being more common than others does not mean anyone whose preferences differ is disingenuous, though. That’s the issue I have. It would be like saying I’m lying about disliking peanut butter because you just saw a different woman eating a pb&j for lunch and everyone else you know likes it. Two individuals from the same group having conflicting values, opinions or experiences isn’t hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:49 PM
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Okay. I don’t trust people who instantly reject any information that doesn’t conform to their ideology, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:32 PM
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Dating apps, by design, reduce their users to their most basic superficial characteristics. This makes them particularly appealing to people who place a certain level of value on those traits. Obviously users are going to base their selections on the information made immediately available to them, which is someone’s picture and maybe a brief description. Data from dating apps reflect the user base of the app. It cannot always be accurately applied to how people navigate dating in real life becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:28 PM
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I have seen a lot of this, but at the same time I’ve personally experienced more RP men who try to invalidate me by insisting that I’m lying when I say I don’t care about superficial things like income, height or penis size, because I’m “biologically programmed” to want that or something. Either way they should stop doing that and accept that women are human beings with their own individual preferences. Just like men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:26 AM
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I’m in a monogamous marriage, my husband and I got together young and neither of us have had many (or any) previous partners so STIs aren’t a concern. We’re not worried about pregnancy because I’m on the pill. I take it at the same time every day and never miss one, it hasn’t failed me yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:18 AM
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But they don't stigmatize each other I think this a very good point that sums up the difference between the two. Gay sexuality is undeniably stigmatized by the broader, heteronormative society but within queer culture itself there is a lot less repression. Like you said gay men are unlikely to have negative judgments about a potential partner having had a lot of other past sexual partners or casual sex than straight men are. So while a promiscuous gay man will still be judged by society, he will…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:54 PM
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I do think we should take into account the ways that cultural expectations and stigma have the potential to influence self reported data sets as a whole. I don’t think that means we should immediately dismiss people speaking to their personal experiences or assume they are always dishonest, however, as is very common in this community.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:07 AM
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Oh trust me, I know lol my brother is gay and the gays be fucking. But I still think it’s worth noting the many different influences that shape women’s relationship with sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:31 AM
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I’m not necessarily disputing this, but also I think it’s worth mentioning some things anyway as food for thought: •A lot of the data about this is based on self reports which aren’t the most reliable when it comes to sensitive/stigmatized topics like sexuality •Female sexuality has historically always been more taboo, with expectations of chastity/purity more culturally enforced on women, while sexual promiscuity, hypersexuality and self pleasure have been much more socially accepted for men. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:48 PM
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This is a good point, doing something that aligns with traditional gender roles is not inherently an endorsement of traditional roles. A trad wife does most of the cooking because she believes it’s primarily her job as a woman. A wife who cooks because it’s a personal strength, she genuinely likes doing it or it just makes more sense because she gets home from work earlier is not necessarily a trad wife, because it isn’t rooted in trad values.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:12 PM
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As a feminist, I don’t disagree with you. I believe in rejecting masculine and feminine gender roles alike. In my marriage our roles are either shared equally or determined by our strengths and aptitude as individuals (with some consideration to logistical circumstances) not what is culturally expected based on gender. We both paid for dates. Nowadays it all comes from a joint bank account anyway. We both spoil each other. We make decisions collaboratively. Neither of us drive…period, neither of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:44 PM
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My husband and I are 3 years apart and some change, when we were 21 and 25 for a bit absolutely no one considered us to have a significant age gap. Very weird take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:55 AM
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I think it’s really weird that it’s still so prevalent in the Anglosphere and some other western countries. First, let’s discuss the origin of the tradition. As cliche as it sounds, this is quite literally rooted in the patriarchy. The idea that a man is the head of his household, and his wife and children essentially amount to his property, therefore they all take the name he was born with. When a woman got married, it was a transaction - a transfer of ownership from her father to her groom, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:42 AM
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If a guy found a pup or kitten cute and expressed it, how would you feel? Do guys actually think women will judge them for this? Because I’ll be honest, I’ve never met a woman who would view this as anything other than a green flag. My husband’s gentleness and love for animals was one of the qualities that first made me begin to fall in love with him. He also cries during movies sometimes, especially if it involves a cat. Seeing him cuddle and love on our pets is so beautiful it (almost) makes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:08 AM
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I married an emotional man. When we first met, he struggled with debilitating anxiety. He was very open about it and I never viewed him as less for that, I was always willing to be a support for him just as he was for me with my own mental health. 13 years later he still gets anxious but has come such a long way since then, he no longer lets it place limitations on his life. I can’t even begin to express how proud of him I am getting to bear witness to his personal growth over the years. He is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:30 AM
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This is such a stupid argument. Women were alienated from most societal roles outside the home for much of history and often weren’t even given an education. Of course their contributions to humanity were mostly limited to the domestic (which is still plenty valuable btw!) Ever since they gained enough autonomy to participate in other domains, they’ve made and continue to make enormous contributions. Don’t be daft.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:20 PM
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Furthermore women give up their last names and the last names of the kids’ she gestates and births in submission A lot of us are rejecting this tradition. My mom has been married multiple times and never changed her name, she also hated being called “Mrs” and always used “Dr” instead. She did give me my dad’s last name but later regretted it considering he has never been involved in my life. The only reason I never legally changed it to hers is because it sounds terrible with my first name lol. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:08 PM
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I am unconcerned about needing protection from home invaders or whatever, where I live this is not nearly as serious of a threat as men seem to believe when they insist we depend on them “to defend the home”. This isn’t the Stone Age where we live in constant fear of being mauled by a bear. It’s 2025 and women have the option of keeping a taser/pepper spray (or a gun depending on where you live) handy if they feel it’s necessary. The first decade of my life I lived alone with just my 5’3” mom an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:49 PM
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Assuming you’re a heterosexual man, do you notice when other men are particularly handsome? For me it’s like that. I view good looking men no differently than a good looking person of the same sex. I might observe their beauty, but there are genuinely no feelings of sexual desire attached to it. When I’ve established a strong emotional bond with someone I genuinely only have the capacity for that kind of attraction toward one person at a time. They ARE the most attractive to me. So no, it would …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:05 PM
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Exactly. This is what a LOT of posts on this sub come down to, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:20 PM
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Of course I’m aware it’s a cultural norm. It’s just worth noting that some couples reject the tradition. I also know a lot of women who told their partner NOT to get an expensive ring but he did anyway out of fear he’d look cheap if he didn’t. Honestly I’m not opposed to women getting men extravagant engagement rings of comparable value to theirs, if they really want them. It seems fair if she expects one herself. Personally $5-6K for a ring is insane to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:49 PM
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When my husband and I got married we were broke, so we both had plain bands. My mom and stepfather wear silicone rings. Not everyone subscribes to the traditional expectation that men should drop thousands of dollars on a diamond, and honestly I think a lot of women would be willing to buy extravagant rings for their fiancés if more men actually wanted them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 06:27 AM
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Agree! I always try to explain that an “egalitarian” relationship doesn’t necessarily mean everything is split perfectly 50/50 all the time, it just means there isn’t an inherent hierarchy/power imbalance between you. Relationships always require some level of vulnerability from both sides which, like you said, could be considered a form of submission. What makes it egalitarian is that one person is not required to be consistently more vulnerable than the other by default. In my marriage our rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:01 PM
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Correct, privilege doesn’t negate suffering, and suffering doesn’t negate privilege. You could even say that privilege itself brings its own type of suffering, “With great power comes great responsibility,” after all. For men that often results in declining mental health under the crushing weight of societal expectations to lead, be dominant, be stoic, be self sufficient and never ask for help, etc. Rigid, culturally enforced gender roles obviously hurt both men and women in different ways. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:56 PM
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I was going to make a comment about intersectionality but you explained it really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:11 PM
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Okay, it’s apparent that you prefer bigger dicks and that’s fine. But I’d like to point out that the average vagina depth during arousal is roughly the same as the length of the average penis. My partner is in the average range and can still ram my cervix in certain positions if he isn’t careful, that definitely does not feel good to me. If I had to choose between his penis being an inch bigger or an inch smaller I’d choose the latter without hesitation. In defense of the small dick: They can fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:36 PM
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Is penetrative vaginal sex inherently misogynistic? No, of course not. Is it misogynistic to prioritize men’s sexual pleasure over women’s, always regard PIV intercourse as the default primary event, and treat other types of sex which are more likely to make a woman cum as an optional “extra”? For sure. The common portrayal in porn/media of women always having intense, dramatic orgasms during penetration with very limited depictions of other forms of sex, not to mention being physically ready fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:27 PM
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Lol yes, the only two types of men that exist in the world: blonde blue eyed bigdick millionaire and 5’3” bald janitor /s Keep telling yourself whatever you must to preserve your ideology. It’s a low effort copout though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:12 PM
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Again: don’t enter into a monogamous marriage if you aren’t prepared to honor your commitment U N C O N D I T I O N A L L Y (or simply get a divorce and move on with your life like a grown up!) If you didn’t consider the potential risk that making such a commitment entails, sorry but you were irresponsible and deserve to face the consequences of that. Especially if you got married solely to secure access to sex. Should’ve gotten a prenup if you’re so concerned about losing half your assets, idk …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:01 AM
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No. If there is an expectation of exclusivity in the relationship, you’re not willing to divorce when things go south, but also aren’t prepared to honor your commitment unconditionally…. Why enter into a monogamous marriage? Why go behind your partners back and betray them like that when ethical non-monogamy is an option? Find a partner who is open to that arrangement and agrees to it from the start or don’t get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:31 AM
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You literally just gave us a perfect example of my point, well done. It’s wild to me how so many redpill guys complain that women aren’t interested in them but never consider that refusing to view the opposite sex as complex individual humans might have something to do with that. Like dude I don’t know what to tell you, if you genuinely believe we’re a monolith the only explanation I have is that you’re suffering from a very severe case of confirmation bias or don’t get out in the real world eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:43 PM
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We evolved beyond any other living thing on this earth and created complex societies, technology, language, medicine, art etc. so why is it so hard to believe our approach to sex and relationships are not equally more evolved and complex? It is absolutely not anti science to acknowledge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:45 PM
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I’m sorry to hear that. It’s unfair to make such generalizations about people regardless of gender, I think the “men are all simple creatures who are slaves to their dicks” narrative is particularly gross and degrading and I hate that it’s so commonly upheld in our society. I’m grateful to have enough genuinely lovely and amazing men in my life to remind me on a daily basis they are not all the same and that the most toxic people in any group do not represent the whole. Sincerely fellow Wellbutr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:36 PM
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If you’re unable to see the very obvious differences between human beings and wild animals you might be the delusional one, my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:13 PM
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A lot of redpill straight men are only willing to improve their value in superficial ways though (going to the gym, accumulating wealth, etc) yet refuse to confront the other, less tangible ways they push women away, particularly women who don’t necessarily prioritize things like looks and money. Ironically (but not really) it’s often their own redpill beliefs that poison their attitudes toward women/dating and in turn it makes them a walking red flag to anyone who might have genuine intentions.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:11 PM
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Right… how often do we have to shout from the rooftops that “WOMEN AREN’T A FUCKING MONOLITH” on this sub only for rp men to insist that actually those who appear to deviate from the monolith are lying/delusional/in denial and can’t be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:34 PM
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Watching my mother unhappy in her marriage was agony. My brother and I were so proud of her when she finally filed for divorce and told her we wished she had done it sooner. Two happier, separated parents >>> two miserable married parents. That’s a fact. Staying together “for the kids” just models a really unhealthy example of what a relationship should look like. I think it’s more important to set a positive example for them, showing them how to have self respect by leaving a situation that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:58 AM
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I think what the OP is getting at is that lower marriage rates can at least partially be explained by the fact that people no longer need to marry for security or out of a sense of social obligation. Women in particular these days have goals in life other than finding a husband and starting a family, such as completing a higher education, travel, career etc. and instead only settle down to marry if/when it feels right for them, which is often later in life. Or, they never marry at all, because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:40 AM
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Politics should be a reflection of your values and having values that align is among the most important things to me in a relationship. It shapes expectations for the dynamics of the relationship, how you handle finances, long term life priorities, parenting styles, the way you approach and resolve conflict, etc. When my husband and I first met we discussed politics on day one. It was one of the things that really attracted me to him. The topic came up organically, not like we were going over a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:21 AM
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I can see your point about financial investment and if there is any actual reason to believe the baby might not be yours either because your partner cheated, the relationship is very new/casual or you were broken up for a while and the timing is ambiguous, of course it’s perfectly acceptable to request a paternity test. That’s absolutely fair. But if you’re requesting one from your exclusive and stable partner of 8 years solely because of your own trust issues, without any actual reason to doubt…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:20 AM
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It’s more about ensuring a balance in vulnerability. I expect my partner to put the same level of trust in me as I put in him. A man is just as capable of having an affair and knocking up another woman as his wife is capable of getting knocked up by another man, but it’s not like she can just get a cheek swab from him and find out if he has children with anyone else (unless the other kids have already been sampled and stored in a database somewhere for comparison, which is not likely at all espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:27 AM
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Well put. Reducing a relationship to nothing but assigned roles and superficial transactions is degrading to men and women simultaneously. I can’t see how anyone could feel emotionally fulfilled with a mentality like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:25 AM
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My husband is my best friend and his value to me is that he’s a super cool person and life partner whose companionship makes me happy. He would hopefully say the same about me. I don’t believe he has an inherent responsibility to be a “provider” any more than I do, nor would I want to be valued only for my body and maid service, that kind of transactional relationship sounds miserable and degrading tbh. women are biologically driven to resources No And sex should be something mutually enjoyable …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:11 AM
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House parties What house, in this economy? Most young adults live in tiny rentals, have roommates or still live with parents, especially if they’re single. I’m 30 and the only people I know my own age who own homes live far outside the city.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:38 PM
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I understand what you’re saying but that doesn’t necessarily mean they expected you to pay for them on the basis of traditional gender roles, if my mom or my friend offer to pay the bill I will graciously accept (especially if they were the one who invited me out or I know they’re financially better off than I am.) Some guys also get weirdly offended if you decline to let them pay for you, or god forbid, offer to pay for him. They take it as some kind of insult to their masculinity or an implica…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:25 PM
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I think most women would actually appreciate the certainty that a guy is pursuing her because he LIKES her, is genuinely interested in her and sees her value as a person rather than for purely superficial reasons. Not many people want to be “settled” for out of sheer desperation to relieve someone’s loneliness. OP may be approaching this from more of a “put women in their place” angle, but if men raising their standards will weed out the dudes who have insincere intentions and only view women as…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:59 PM
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Do you really think women are the only ones who can be controlling in their relationships? Insecure men absolutely do all the things you mentioned too. If anything men generally seem to be less comfortable with their partners having friends of the opposite sex than women. Personally I think it’s silly, if I didn’t believe my partner were capable of having platonic mixed gender friendships without wanting to sleep with them, I would not be with that man. And having female friends shows me he can …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:15 PM
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And it’s not like you can just ask him to do a cheek swab that will tell you how many other women he’s gotten pregnant. It’s much easier for a man to hide the consequences of his affair than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:48 PM
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I just don’t want a relationship built on traditional gender roles. Egalitarian doesn’t mean it has to be exactly 50/50 all the time, it just means what we bring to the relationship and our dynamic isn’t determined by gender but rather our individual strengths/weaknesses and circumstances. I don’t believe my husband has any more of a responsibility to “provide” than I do just because he’s a dude. Guys who do embrace a “provider” role usually have traditional expectations for women as well, and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:26 AM
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Absolutely this. It seems inauthentic, like he’s just being an opportunist and taking whatever he can get rather than showing a genuine interest in me specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:11 AM
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For me, definitely the latter. It feels more genuine. The “flirt first” route makes it seem like he just treats every woman that way and his intentions are superficial and inauthentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 12:03 AM
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Not being able to orgasm from penetrative sex doesn’t mean the “package” is lacking. It is not doing women OR men any favors when people suggest that. The majority of women need external clitoral stimulation to reach climax, and that’s just a simple fact. Many of us don’t even like to masturbate with penetration! If someone cannot ever reach orgasm during PIV (which is super common) it’s pretty unlikely that a different sized/shaped penis will make the difference, nor will the speed, duration or…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:25 AM
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Whew standard absolutism fallacy The irony that you should mention this when your own arguments are steeped in fallacy. "Because I said so" Very scientific This isn’t unreasonable when someone is speaking about their own personal experience, what do you want me to do? Send you 4 different peer reviewed studies that prove I love my husband for being a gentle and kind person? It’s also the extent of your own claims about “the majority of women/relationships” - because you said so. That is not suff…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:26 AM
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Will it end marriage? Yes. Because women aren’t attracted to men who make less money than themselves There will probably always be both men and women who prefer a “traditional” relationship dynamic (and it’s worth noting that some men still won’t date a woman who earns more than them, either) but it’s certainly becoming less common. Recent studies show that about 30% of heterosexual women in relationships earn more than their male partner. That’s twice as many as the 1980’s. It would be consiste…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:41 PM
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Do you really believe there are absolutely NO regular kind, respectful, loving men in happy relationships? None at all? I would never be with my husband if he didn’t have all those qualities, and the fact that “model tier” assholes supposedly get thousands of women does not mean other women are lying about their nature and what they are attracted to. These are just different women with different standards. If I say I hate peanut butter, it would make no sense to conclude that I deceived you and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:26 PM
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I try to be mindful of my wording to make it clear I’m not trying to represent every woman with my perspective. I’d never want to erase someone else’s experience and it’s frustrating when others make blanket statements that don’t apply to me. However I also don’t believe I’m particularly special or unique. So if I feel a certain way about something, I imagine there are others who feel similar as well, even if it isn’t all or even the majority. Women do make generalizations on here sometimes, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:23 AM
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My aunt ended things with a guy on the spot when he used a racial slur. Literally just got out of his car and left. She was shocked. I met him once and he seemed nice for the most part, but my family is white. What baffles me is that this was probably 5 months into the relationship. Do people just never talk about politics or social issues with the people they’re dating? I’d probably want to discuss the sensitive topics early on to at least make sure I’m not wasting my time with someone who has …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:38 PM
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This is absolutely true, the lack of distinction is a major problem on this sub. When presented with contradicting responses from different people, someone is more likely to believe the person whose stance validates their own belief over the one that doesn’t, instead of respecting that both are true for those individuals. Someone else having a stance that is different than mine doesn’t mean I am lying about my own stance. It just means individuals feel differently, and can only speak to their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:17 PM
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I fully agree that this is a double standard that needs to change. I personally know a lot of women and AFABs who wouldn’t hesitate to pay for a date or drive a guy around but they are all progressive minded/feminist types, not really the kind of girl red pill men go for or vice versa lol. Outside those circles, I understand it’s still often expected to be a man’s responsibility. I do want to point out that there are also still a lot of men who are put off by women doing these things for them be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:27 PM
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My husband and I are both car free in our 30s! Neither of us have ever owned a car and I don’t even have a valid drivers license. We fully rely on public transit. However we do live in an urban area where that’s realistic, rural and suburban Americans don’t have as much of a choice but to be car dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:00 PM
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I know it sounds cliche but when you love someone, how they look becomes less and less important to you because your attraction to them is about so much more than what’s on the outside. I find my husband very attractive but I didn’t marry him for how young and hot he is. I don’t think anyone should get married if they can’t imagine loving each other just as much through the natural aging process. And this may come as a shock to you, but not everyone finds their spouse less attractive as they age…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:48 PM
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For me personally? Basically a Red Pill man lol. It’s extremely important to me that my partner and I have values that align. Universally? There is no right or wrong answer to this, people all value different things in a partner so it’s hard to make generalizations about what a universal red flag would look like. I think the most obvious characteristic that most women prefer to avoid is someone who is abusive. However what actually constitutes as abuse, and where they draw the line between accep…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:16 PM

“One person doesn’t discount the many” ….unless of course that one person’s opinion or experience validates their own pre existing beliefs, then she speaks for ALL women and the ones who disagree must be in denial or lying! Because we could not possibly be individuals who think differently from each other - that would be outrageous. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:55 PM

I didn’t say “makes up for it”, you’re hearing what you want to hear. Let me make it very clear: Not all women prefer big dicks, most prefer average, and some actually DO prefer little ones. Size queens exist, sure. but that doesn’t negate the validity of others who feel differently. :) You also conveniently ignored my entire point about it not making a difference at all for a lot of us who require clit action to O, which statistically, is more women than not. I wish men would quit telling women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:47 AM

I’d actually like to challenge that assumption because some women find PIV painful and would prefer a smaller penis to minimize that. It’s worth noting that the majority of women don’t reach orgasm from penetration alone, it frustrates me that we’re still perpetuating the narrative of “bigger = better” as if the right size dick will somehow change that. In most cases, clit stimulation is still going to be necessary regardless of dick size because the nerve endings just happen to be more sensitiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:21 AM

Idk, I’m sure there are some women who do prefer bigger dicks for one reason or another but if I’m being honest I’d rather my partner’s dick be a little too small than too big. The average vagina is about the same depth as the average penis. Having your cervix rammed can be really painful, and a lot of women including myself can’t even reach orgasm from penetration on its own. He’s gonna have to eat me out to get me to finish either way, so aside from visual appeal which just isn’t that importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:50 AM
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I think a better example of a man bringing a typically (adult) “feminine trait” to the table would be something like loving to cook/bake and basically every woman I know finds men who are great cooks attractive af, including myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:04 AM
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I was going to write a genuine response to this until I got the last paragraph, now it just feels like a lost cause
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 01:05 AM
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Okay, this is wildly inaccurate and honestly depressing I’m going to try to break this down as best I can. From my own experience: I (like the majority of women) cannot orgasm from penetration. When masturbating I don’t usually insert anything, not even fingers, because it just doesn’t get me off. My clit is the sensitive part and putting something inside doesn’t stimulate the right nerves for orgasm - this is just anatomically how my body works. Despite what porn will have you believe, it is ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:47 AM
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Even if that’s the case, that wasn’t my main point. Because again, the fact that people with autism are less likely to initiate social interactions than those without is a more significant barrier to dating than the fact that they are autistic. It’s also worth noting that men who are felons outnumber autistic men, so someone is likely to have met more men with past or future felonies than “high functioning” autism. Especially when you consider that people who are autistic tend to be more sociall…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:04 PM
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That’s interesting, because my personal observations contradict your uncle’s - I know a lot of autistic men in relationships, but no one that I know of is dating a man in prison. My mom’s boyfriend is autistic and (obviously) in a relationship with my mother. He was previously married and dated several other women after she passed away, before meeting my mom. His youngest son is autistic too, and has been in at least 2 long term relationships that I know of, both girls were also on the spectrum.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:29 AM
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You are assuming the women who say they “want a man who is good” and women who consistently get involved with felons are always the same people. They are usually not. Some women want caring, sensitive men who treat them as equals, and seek out guys who fit that description - while some women go for “bad boy” types. Whether that’s because it gives them a thrill, they’re deeply damaged individuals who don’t feel worthy of better, or the belief that she can “save” him with her love and be the one t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:59 AM
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