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More than 20 by end of college
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 01:19 PM
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Ah fair enough. I agree that MC/UMC are less promiscuous and have less substance abuse problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 02:11 AM
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Lmao that is so false. Many of the richest people in college were doing the most drugs and fucking the most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 01:57 AM
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Lmao I grew up wealthy and still managed to be very promiscuous and so were many of my friends. There’s a difference between being promiscuous and getting pregnant/going to term. With access to very effective birth control and abortion, no one in my social circle had a baby out of wedlock but many had sex with many different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 01:54 AM
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Porn and video games
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 07:12 AM
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I think it’s more the opposite, slutty behavior is often a symptom of negative feelings/personal issues/substance abuse. I say this as a high n-count woman. This is not always the case, as there are well-adjusted high n-count women. It also depends if you’re still in the phase of sleeping around with lots of people or if it was something you did when you were younger. I became much more stable and stopped sleeping around and now that I’m in a monogamous relationship Im less erratic. I have notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 12:13 AM
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In my experience a lot of women that are only really friendly with men, usually have a lot of male friends where the guy is into her and treats her different/does a lot more for her than a typical friendship. Ive seen situations where the guys will cling to friendship going above and beyond because he wants more than a friendship with the woman. Women typically won’t idolize their female friends the same way a man might and some women prefer the power dynamics/perks of being primarily friends wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 08:31 PM
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They might like it but they won’t respect you as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:54 PM
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That’s a good example for me as a woman to understand it. I will say though most women would never say that a “guy isn’t relationship material because he took me to an amazing meal on the first date” whereas plenty of guys say “she’s not relationship material because she fucked me right away”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:52 AM
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Not on average though at least. Directly from the article: Men who were unemployed or had lower income were more likely to be sexually inactive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 04:25 AM
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Did people read the article? The main reason listed is that now more women graduate from college than men and most women want a partner who has equal or greater earning potential than her
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:39 PM
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Holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:18 AM
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Did you forget that Bezos and his wife divorced after he cheated on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:33 PM
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I have a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 01:34 PM
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I have a high n-count and I wouldn’t really say it’s a good thing but I’ve never been pregnant or had an std so I wouldn’t really say it’s a bad thing. I’ve never been with a guy who explicitly asked me my n-count and I don’t have trouble getting high value men. I don’t really get why people think that it will impact a women’s dating life when most people don’t ask and it’s very easy to lie/not disclose. I do think that a high n-count in a short period of time can often be a sign of untreated me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:20 AM
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I would estimate the average to be 10 but the median might be more like 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 11:54 PM
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I don’t really think the two are completely separate. I think sexual attraction can be influenced by sex and status. I will be more sexually attracted to a high power lawyer than a janitor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 07:11 PM
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But lol you’re basically doing the same things. Men value youth and beauty more, women value success and money more. Men and women tend to place different priorities. I don’t really see the double standard here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:19 PM
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What are you talking about? I’ve had men of many different races go down on me. In general I’ve noticed that men who don’t eat pussy tend to be more selfish in the bedroom and in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:04 PM
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Obesity, no ambition, cheating, drug addiction, and abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:02 PM
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Both men and women tend to prefer confiding in women about their problems. Women tend to provide different prospectives than men and can have more in depth conversations about challenges in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:01 PM
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Yeah I feel similarly. I also feel like if a man has a good career he’s more supportive of my career and doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder/doesn’t feel the need to put me down
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:57 PM
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Yeah seems like some men can’t really comprehend that for most women a man’s career/education is important to him being “alpha”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:55 PM
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I work in a pretty good business field (don’t want to get too specific but think finance/consulting) I tend to want a guy who works in a selective business field but am open to lawyers etc. my current boyfriend works in finance. I also tend to prefer guys who are a bit older.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:24 PM
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I’m 22 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 05:33 PM
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On dating apps I screen a guy first by career, then education and then looks. I would argue that career and education are almost as valuable for men when it comes to their dating prospects as their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 05:05 PM
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It goes both ways. From my experience dating, the majority of men prefer a partner who makes less than them as it makes them feel more manly,
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 11:30 PM
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Many men have a hard time dating women who earn more than them. In addition, many women get push back from family/friends for dating men who are in lower educational/economic groups than them. Even as times start to change it's still common for the guy to pay for the first date etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 10:29 PM
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I would say women are more emotional but men are have much less control over their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 09:33 PM
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Yep exactly not sure what world the commenter lives in where anyone with a degree is an asshole lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 12:31 PM
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Great if anything this conversation has reminded me of why I have this requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 03:44 AM
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Neither
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 03:39 AM
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Oh yeah because all college drop outs turn into Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerburg /s my net worth is north of 2 mil but you would reject me Yep because it’s not about money, I’m not looking for a sugar daddy. It’s about values and education.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 03:27 AM
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You definitely are!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 03:18 AM
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I’m a woman and not really gay. I wouldn’t consider the women/man without a degree as an option and statistically they’d be very unlikely to have everything else I desired. I also don’t date assholes. There’s plenty of people who have degrees so it’s not a very limiting criteria. Seems like I struck a nerve though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 03:15 AM
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Some people will fuck outside their race but won’t pursue interracial long term relationships. It’s fucked up but that could also be an explanation for why women don’t want anything long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 03:12 AM
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Why is a degree bullshit? Why are you trying to minimize a degree into a piece of paper? Are you really that naive that you think your career opportunities, social life and values will be the same whether you have a degree or not? I don’t get how caring about education is any more shallow than caring about appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 03:05 AM
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What do you mean by emotional match?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:37 AM
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Yeah I screen by education then career then appearance. I’m hard working, ambitious, well-educated and looking for someone similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 02:04 AM
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Are you women who’s had one night stands? Alcohol really clouds judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:48 PM
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That’s self-respect. I’m saying you’re naive to think every guy a woman fucks in CC is because of pure sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:21 PM
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Or it means she’s insecure and likes to drink a lot of alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 12:17 PM
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They do but double the resources is nice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 03:37 PM
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I was not in the room when it happened lol. Sure people can still get pregnant but the odds are extremely really low. They played the odds, got pregnant and it wasn’t the end of the world. They had enough resources for me etc. but my point was my dad did not go out of his way to have a kid so late.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 03:36 PM
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I don’t think most people at that age think they can still conceive. They were also able to accommodate three children so it wasn’t the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 03:20 PM
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I was an accident so I don’t blame them, most people don’t expect to get pregnant so late. I do agree though if i was an IVF baby, I would feel more that way. On the other hand I was born into a really stable environment, never had to worry about finances, both my parents have a lot of life experience and they’re both still alive. I do agree though, you shouldn’t be actively trying to have kids when you’re 58.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:04 PM
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Extremely but they also didn’t use IVF and weren’t actively trying so I wonder if that changes the odds
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:51 AM
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No it’s not because access to healthcare, prenatal testing etc. are also there to ensure a happy/healthy baby. A man’s resources are often more important than his sperm in terms of offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:40 AM
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That’s not true men who aren’t married report lower happiness but single women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:38 AM
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Posts like these make me feel blessed that I somehow am alive with no serious disorders even though my parents had me at age 45 and 58
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:36 AM
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Then why do SAHM moms drink more than working moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 04:06 PM
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This is not the same thing as being sexually turned on though. I think it’s intertwined with it though. I’m not just sexually attracted to someone only based on their appearance. I’m likely more turned on by a guy who’s a lawyer than a guy who’s a janitor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:39 AM
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Men might be more physically attractive when their younger but women don’t value that much as security. Women are more attracted to men who have status and money, the older men get, the more time they have to get these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:24 AM
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It’s because older men have more established careers and they’re more likely to have their shit figured out. Women are attracted to security. EDIT: your source has to do with that women tend to want someone similar to their age
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:22 AM
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Very well written and true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 07:05 AM
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Men also overestimate their intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 09:57 PM
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Yep that’s the other reason. By 30 women will have had their entire 20s to gain sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 09:51 PM
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They care because they have this revenge fantasy idea that once a women turns 30 she’s no longer desirable and will finally get the rejection she deserves instead of being able to sleep with Chads and will end up alone saying: “where did all the good men go?”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 09:48 PM
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Ugly women are not treated like men though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 09:26 PM
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So that means, ugly women are held the the same standard as men. No an ugly women will not be recognized in the same way for her accomplishments as a man. A woman’s value is derived more from her appearance than a man’s value is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 03:08 PM
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You're mixing up two separate ideas but it really comes down to men can be idolized for their accomplishments but women have to be attractive to be valued. An ugly women Nascar driver wouldn't be celebrated the same way. There is also the idea that it's more out of the ordinary so people notice it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:02 AM
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Good take
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 05:19 AM
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I highly doubt it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 11:52 PM
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When looking on dating apps I sort by education, career and then check to make sure they’re attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 10:31 PM
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high socio sexuality I love this phrase haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:36 PM
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Very interesting take your prediction of my pill color checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:30 PM
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Sperm: $150 Surrogacy: $150,000 is actually more the comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 04:22 AM
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I also think that a lot of women's attractiveness can be improved through make up, clothing, even plastic surgery whereas men's tends to be more innate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 04:05 AM
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That’s not what OP was saying though. He’s saying because you’re not tall it’s hypocritical to want someone who’s tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:56 PM
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Yep lol not surprised given that OP posted it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:30 AM
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Ah so this is interesting because husbands generally also want to be taller than their wives and husbands also tend to want to make more money than their wives. So I don't really understand how a woman wanting a man to be taller than her benefits women? Especially since men are generally taller than women. A man wanting a woman with a lower n count is no more and no less "slut-shaming" than a woman wanting a taller man is "short-shaming". N-count isn't a physical characteristic though. You're co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:59 AM
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Interesting take
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:32 AM
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Penis size is like income for me lol. There's a minimum threshold to achieve necessary fulfillment, anything beyond that is diminishing marginal returns on happiness. Too large and you start to get problems uniquely associated with its size. Omg lol this is an amazing analogy and I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 12:40 AM
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That's not always true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 09:57 PM
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Works for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 10:11 PM
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probably 500+
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:29 PM
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~15 22 Haven't been on any horrible dates. Been on lots of fun first dates. Getting drinks and then doing something fun. For a typical first date I meet up for drinks or dinner. Usually the guy pays.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:28 PM
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Skinny or muscular is fine. I don’t do big. I don’t do dad bod. I don’t do buff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 02:53 AM
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Only seen open relationships work for gay guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 03:48 PM
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Because women are happier single than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 03:42 PM
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Hostels
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 11:10 AM
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Because that would mean that they would actually have to internalize their problem and work on themselves instead of blaming “stacies” and “bitches” since they think even if they’re a 300 pound guy who plays video games all day and lives with mommy that they are entitled to fuck the girls they see in porn
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:13 PM
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Yeah but I don’t pay $250,000 to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:48 AM
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Can you orgasm from g-spot stimulation/penetration?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 02:04 PM
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You seem somewhat sexually experienced though. I’m thinking more for men without sexual experience will be given unrealistic expectations from porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 02:02 PM
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The entire sex scene is staged. Women fake orgasms. Porn is videoed from a male view point. Most women don’t say between 18-22 forever. Most women don’t have perfectly waxed vaginas 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 02:00 PM
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averages though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 03:35 AM
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LOL except make women, who have to go through the horrible birthing process, crave sex more as well as tighten the vagina. Not surprised to see comments like this from pro-life people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 02:42 AM
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Lol I guarantee you most women won't take 30 minutes to cum with a magic wand. There's a reason they call it magic ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 02:41 AM
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a lot of women in porn are actually older than that You're right they're around 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 02:40 AM
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There's way more that goes into it that simple explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 02:33 AM
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No in the way that most women don’t stay between 18-20 forever/ have perfectly waxed vaginas 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 12:04 AM
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I’ve heard it’s close to 90% and 85% of lesbians orgasm regularly so seems to be a greater issue among heterosexual sexual relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 12:03 AM
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can provide a superior sensation to that of a man I said can. Some women don't orgasm with their partner. In fact only 65% of straight women regularly orgasm with a partner. Masturbation orgasms have no comparison to orgasms had with a good male lover, which involve arousal and attraction and a whole host of chemicals that are not present when you masturbate. I'm the same way and agree but some women don't get to experience this chemical filled orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 07:57 PM
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The difference is that porn gives men an unrealistic standard of what women look like naked and the entire sexual experience while vibrators can provide a superior sensation to that of a man but are unlikely to give women an unrealistic idea of what sex is like. The use of vibrators is also no where near as vast as that of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 07:31 PM
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A magic wand is great but it doesn’t compare to actual sex with a partner who you are attracted to and who knows how to get you off. True but a magic wand might be preferable to a partner who you are attracted to but who doesn’t get you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 07:28 PM
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5'8 is totally fine with me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:52 AM
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Yeah under 5'4 it's pretty unlikely I would end up wanting to date him but I might be down to fuck if he was super hot and confident
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:52 AM
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What most girls think is 6 feet is actually 5'10
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 01:50 AM
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What do you qualify as short?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 12:07 AM
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If you're a single woman - the US is definitely a buyer's market, it just may not be the dream house you want LOL I disagree I would say it's a renters market
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:40 PM
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The arguments I’ve see are way more targeted at women but you are correct it would both men and women m.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:07 PM
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Oh yeah agreed. It's super rare. I meant more though that the wall in terms of fertility is way higher for men even if it's not a great idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 09:34 PM
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Just to add to this my parents had me when my mom was 45 and my dad was 58 (I was an accident). Sure it might not be the best to have kids so late but it's very very possible for men to have kids for an extended period of time. Both my parents were considered old but my dad is quite a bit older than my mom and that's why I'm alive today lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:23 AM
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He agrees to deposit his sperm in someone else’s body. A woman has control over her body, a man doesn’t have control of a woman’s body. He leaves his sperm in the woman’s body and so she can make the choice with what to do with her own body. This law isn't permanent, once we have that for men we can revisit it. I'm not okay with it til that happens. Lol good luck! Have fun causing more child support and women’s health issues! It’s not in the States best interest to get rid of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 06:50 PM
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It’s not a double standard, it comes down to biology. A woman gets pregnant and she has control over her own body, so she can decide to get an abortion or to bring the child to term. If she gives birth and the father is the primary caregiver, she too will have to pay child support. Making it so men don’t have to pay child support doesn’t work because there’s still a child and child support is for the child. Instead of advocating against abortion, which will cause more men having to pay child sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 06:34 PM
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Nope I won’t even swipe right on them on dating apps. Maybe it’s shallow but education is equally as important to me as appearance. Intelligence/education capability is very important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 01:49 AM
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And this is your probably I’m not your therapist and I don’t care about your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 10:17 AM
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Your wife needs therapy and probably had a lot of shame when it comes to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 10:05 AM
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Nope no one who commented posted a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:28 AM
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True that's a good point but it's harder to hit the clit during PIV than oral or fingering. having my first orgasm at 19 after being sexually active but not that info it for 2 years, changed the game completely This was my thinking! An orgasm transforms the sexual experience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:23 AM
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Can you please show me a statistic backing up this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:22 AM
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society teaches us that mens bodies are for pleasing women and therefore we get mostly used for womens pleasure without anyone ever focusing on us. Which society are you living in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:04 AM
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I’m one of those women who have multiple orgasms and would say I desire sex as much as men and have a really high sex drive so good question! I don’t think 65% of women are having multiple orgasms but it would be something interesting to study.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:31 AM
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Have you ever had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:04 AM
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Exactly I feel like people talk about how women just innately have lower sex drives but fail to consider that for many women the sex they have is not that pleasurable, which could further reduce their drive. if I was rarely or never coming, and if my partner was somehow totally fine with that, I wouldn't initiate or think much about it at all, Same and it would probably end up with me resenting them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:02 AM
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You’re focusing on two separate issues. If only 65% of straight women regularly orgasm then that leaves 35% of the the straight woman population who don’t get that experience. Not every women can have multiple orgasms and I didn’t say orgasms are the only basis for sex desire, I’m more focusing on how lack of orgasm could reduce sexual desire. If I was with a partner who never made me orgasm (I never would be), I probably would not want to have sex with them that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 06:58 AM
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This is looking at percentages of women not number of orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 05:11 AM
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No lol because she can get an abortion. She has control over her own body. Illegal or legal, women will always find a way to have control over their own bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 03:59 AM
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Yep and since she still has control over her body she can get an abortion. I don't see what you're trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 03:32 AM
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He leaves his sperm in her body, she has control over her own body.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 03:19 AM
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How would you describe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 03:07 AM
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I’m not talking about parenthood, I’m talking about pregnancy and childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 03:07 AM
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Yes exactly! So much of it is about the skill an attractive appearance and big dick can only do so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:14 AM
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I don’t need to be eaten out to orgasm and I’m one of the lucky 25% who can orgasm from penetration but I’ve still noticed a correlation between guys who eat me out and how much effort they put in/how good they are in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 12:26 AM
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LOL that’s so false.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:52 PM
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Read the study. Even if you’re into someone if they don’t put any effort into sex or into really pleasing you, you might not get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:35 PM
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I just think it would lead to less sex but I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:25 PM
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but if you never knew how great sex could be then you might not know what you're missing out on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:21 PM
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Women can easily climax many times each go round -- the guy only once. I'm one of those woman but my point is that for 35% of straight women they don't regularly orgasm with a partner during sex, which could probably effect how much they desire sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:19 PM
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Man-woman couples have more sex, on avg, than lesbian couples with 2 women. Can you please show me a statistic showing this? I looked it up but couldn't find anything saying this. That's why lesbian couples often barely have any sex, while gay men are promiscuous as fuck. Where have you read that lesbian couples barely have any sex? Having sex with lots of people is also different than having lots of sex. I would probably guess and agree though that gay men do have the most sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:16 PM
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I've been told multiple times that PIV sex is different than trying for an orgasm, and thats the 70% of women who can't have a PIV orgasm. Yes but sex should include more than just PIV if both parties aren't satisfied with just PIV Second, women who are hard to orgasm will often use a toy to help, I'm guessing lesbians, due to their lack of natural equipment are more likely to employ a vibrator. but the piece of equipment that lesbians are missing doesn't usually result in an orgasm. I do agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:12 PM
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Yes lesbians and straight men are taking the same test but lesbians perform 21% better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:57 PM
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Yep just scope out r/sex for some stories
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:56 PM
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Is it fair to expect both of them to get the same grade? I see your point but disagree because for one people having sex are (hopefully) not 3rd graders and lesbian women get a much higher grade. The main reasoning that research has found is because straight women receive less oral sex and a higher percentage of women orgasm from receiving oral sex than PIV sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:31 PM
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Omg are you really this worked up/offended that I thought you were a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:30 PM
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If most time you slept with women it didn't result in an orgasm, do you think that would change how much you desired having sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:26 PM
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she will not receive any match at all Eh she'll still probably receive some matches but agreed that it's a dumb idea and shows lack of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:25 PM
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I don't know you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:24 PM
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Any stats to back this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:59 PM
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No idea
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:57 PM
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Are you a man or woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:48 PM
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Most men's ego wouldn't like that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:47 PM
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Ah I see what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:43 PM
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Lesbians brain is wired somewhat differently, they have higher instances of orgasms, so it doesn't follow that men are just inept at making women cum, and women are master-class or whatever. That's ridiculous I'm sorry but the main reasoning is that many ~75% women don't orgasm from penetration and many more can orgasm from oral sex. Men focus way more on penetration and way less on oral sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:37 PM
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You can compare the views on sex of women who normally orgasm vs. those who seldom do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:36 PM
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It’s not the orgasm gap, which easily explainable by biology If that's the case then why do lesbians consistently orgasm way more than straight women? Otherwise totally agree with your comment except for that I do think many women don't have great sex and then don't really enjoy sex that much but that could also be intertwined with the culture so could be a chicken/egg situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:35 PM
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Are you by any chance the friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:28 PM
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Solid advice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:53 PM
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The dating scene is not equal though. Supply and demand baby!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:49 PM
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Wear exactly the worst color for you, exaggerate your extra chins. This is bad advice and will result in you getting way less matches/dates because people will assume you look worse in real life. I think you should use a variety of pictures and include one that's a full body shot. who used a flattering pic Let me guess she gained a bunch of weight and used a picture from before she gained weight? That's not using a flattering picture, that's using a misleading picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:47 PM
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I agree from what I've talked about with close female friends a lot of them haven't had very enjoyable sex or didn't until later and then thought: "Wow I didn't know what I was missing out on"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:36 PM
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children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 06:30 PM
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Yeah it drives them nuts that women can now have sex without having to face pregnancy/childbirth. It's actually quite scary to me how much hate their is and wanting to control women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:43 PM
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Cool I don’t really care what you think. I have the financial means and access to get an abortion, which is what I would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:36 PM
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At least of the women I know, the more educated a woman is and the less religious she is, the more likely she’ll get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 05:30 PM
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Yep I have nexplanon more effective than getting my tubes tied but birth control mess ups happen. In the case of unwed accidental pregnancy it’s more responsible to get an abortion 90% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 05:29 PM
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It’s actually quite concerning and hijacking a lot of Reddit subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:06 AM
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Yep most dangerous profession in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:58 AM
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Honestly from what I've seen here and on r/Braincels it seems like a lot of men have hate against women and want them to not be able to have casual sex. There's a lot of bitterness that women don't have to be punished with childbirth if they want to partake in sex. There seems to be little regard for the fetus, literally just men relishing in the fact that women have less bodily autonomy. What's striking is that these same men also seem like if they got someone pregnant they would highly advocat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:52 AM
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Yep for women between 15-34 pregnancy complications are the 6th and 7th leading cause of death in the US. Pregnancy and childbirth can be deadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:47 AM
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No she didn't. The man deposits his sperm. He ejaculates and voluntarily leaves his sperm somewhere. The woman doesn't have to go through the horrible process of pregnancy/childbirth because she still has control over her own body.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:45 AM
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Ooh this is probably the most interesting hot take I've seen in a while if I'm reading this correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:44 AM
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And there's something called abortion, which one can use as a solution to pregnancy. Be safe. Be responsible. Agreed and usually getting an abortion is the most responsible decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:44 AM
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There are PLENTY of kids up for adoption. There are very few healthy infants who are up for adoption
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:42 AM
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It's about women not wanting a child. They simply use "but muh body" as the convenient excuse to get out of being a parent. Then why wouldn't they just give birth and give the child up for adoption?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:41 AM
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Men are also the gate keepers of commitment because we decide if a girl is LTR material or if she's pump and dump material. *High status men decide this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 10:55 PM
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I'm glad you decided what was the best for your and your family's future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:58 PM
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So if you got her pregnant you'd want her to keep the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:05 PM
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When parents are unable to take care of their children it inconveniences all of society Thank you abortion is so beneficial for society I don't think people realize that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:03 PM
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Most women who get abortions already have children for what it's worth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:03 PM
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They don't just want your money. They also want citizenship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:01 PM
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The brides once they get citizenship and then divorce the low SMV men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 06:00 PM
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How can promiscuous men be called studs while promiscuous women are sluts??? Unfair!!! To be fair this is more of a societal thing than a double standard in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 05:57 PM
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That was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 08:41 AM
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I think it depends. I know some men who meet women that already have kids and then end up raising them, they can feel like a father. I think part of the issue with finding out your kid is not yours is the intense betrayal. I also feel like if a man has at least one biological child then it could soften the blow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 02:30 AM
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Do you have any statistics to back that up? Some women only want to have sex in a relationship or don’t really enjoy sex that much so it’s not that hard for them to stay celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 01:30 PM
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the study only looks at the having sex with the opposite sex so it's possible some of the men/women included in the study have healthy sex lives just with the same sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 04:42 PM
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The study is saying 28% of men haven't had sex with any women in the past year so I would wager that 5% of the men have had sex with men in the past year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 04:41 PM
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Yes I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 09:35 PM
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It's actually very interesting for statistics though. I agree it's not the general trend but they've done studies and adopted kids with a single mother are very well adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 08:17 PM
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Single moms who choose to adopt though tend to be more well adjusted. Marriage just might not be for them but they still want children,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:32 PM
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You’re right it doesn’t automatically make someone a bad mom but statistically the child is much more likely to grow up in poverty and have a host of issues. I will say that people I know with a single mom who adopted them tend to be really well adjusted, so it might be more that most single moms tend to be in more unstable positions when they have kids,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:28 PM
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That’s not what this post said but you can interrupt it this way if you want. I said single women are happier than single men. I didn’t compare married men with single women etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 03:31 AM
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Sorry didn’t realize that article was only one way. I’ve read others that talk about how it’s a two way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 11:21 PM
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Hell, the number of men changing diapers because the mother refuses to do it ("it makes me sick") should tell you something. LOL this is probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's only in the past 20 years where men started changing diapers at all. If you're going to make ridiculous, claims please back them up with statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:09 PM
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Yep men care more about earning more money and it matters more for attracting a quality partner, so on average they are willing to put in those long hours. Society expects women to take care of children but this only affects mothers. Not all women are mothers and it's patronizing to say that women can't work long hours because of children. Also men tend to major in more lucrative fields that have longer hours when compared to women. This whole article is whiny and bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:06 PM
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Statistically not that stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:01 PM
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I dress very feminine but I act more masculine. I love sex, I'm more vulgar, going into a male dominated field etc. I look for men with masculine traits but who can be vulnerable when we're in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 10:54 PM
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That’s just not true. First off in the developing world the rates are extremely high and in the US it’s the 6th leading cause of death for women between the ages of 15-35.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:34 PM
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I think as a whole women support women more than men support men. Women will talk shit about women behind their backs when feeling competitive, while men will try to flex in front of each other face to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:11 AM
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Or maybe my perspective is skewed because college. Probably is a bit skewed but I see where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:09 AM
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Yep I definitely think it has. It has also emphasized other factors such as career and education. Now women have to select men based off of their photos and limited options. I can sort men by education, religion etc. Often though I get so overwhelmed by dating apps I just stop using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:09 AM
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That sex feels better, and now doesn't have the attendant costs it once did Some high value men suck in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:48 AM
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Yep exactly like most women are reading red pill theories at the club before they go home with some hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:48 AM
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Because sex is great. I'm a fairly attractive woman and I can go to a bar or use an app and basically fuck any of hottest single men. Also not every woman has perfect self-control and some just really like sex. Most aren't following the red pill and thinking oh gee this seems like a bad sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:46 AM
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I personally think RP has it backwards. Having lots of sexual partners doesn't damage women. It's damaged women that have lots of sex trying to fix their past trauma. Lots of partners is a symptom, not the cause. I actually somewhat agree with this although I wouldn't say damaged women, but I would say women with issues. I have ADHD and before I was diagnosed on medication, I was extremely impulsive and would seek novelty, resulting in an extremely high n-count. When I was at the peak of sleepin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:37 AM
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How is that dumb? It's true pregnancy complications kill many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 02:06 AM
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No I just don't understand why men who don't want to pay child support would ever complain/want to restrict abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:17 PM
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Well for the sake of that potential child, it's good that she got an abortion. The thing is that she still feels traumatised and empty and she can't help how she feels. Hopefully she seeks therapy and can work through these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:16 PM
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Men don't have to pay child support if a woman gets an abortion so why the fuck are you advocating against abortion? Also the reason a woman can get an abortion is because it's her body. Childbirth is extremely risky. Men are aware of how the laws are set up in the most western countries. Women also have to pay child support if they don't have primary custody. Child support is for the child because the state doesn't want to have to pay for it. Instead of advocating against abortion, advocate for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:14 PM
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This is the dumbest thing I have ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 09:00 PM
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This is a good point. The issue is that some women and men feel differently hypothetically than when it is reality. `
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:58 PM
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Yep this is what I meant. It does feel better, although the difference is probably not to the same extent that it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:54 PM
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Not always because the guy can just randomly walk out. That's why you don't have a child out of wedlock. you can control who you impregnate. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:52 PM
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Most people who are anti-homosexual are also anti-bisexual men having sex with men. The CDC is concerned with public health not with sexuality. There are much higher rates of STDs among men who have sex with men, this shouldn't be used to shame anyone, but MSM should be aware of this and get tested regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:50 PM
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Have you seen the statistics on how many people don't like abortions and how horrible abortion can be? I have access to suicide too. Nope. I have seen the one where 95% of women don't regret getting an abortion. Then don't live in those states. You can't control which state a pregnant woman travels to. Because men do more risky things Partly true but also has to do with biology and higher transmission rates during anal sex. look down upon women for being single mothers and sluts, yes. Women need…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:38 PM
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I mean a man can too. Look at the amount of sex gay men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:30 PM
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Probably not but you never know. It depends on the person, their views of sex, amount of effort they put in etc. That's why the best way to find out if you're sexually compatible is to have sex wth them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:15 PM
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Sexual compatibility is a huge factor in a LTR and if the guy doesn’t want/isn’t able to have a ton of partners wouldn’t it be prudent to stick to their own lane? Not exactly. The best way to see if you're sexually compatible is to have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:48 PM
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You said she has to lower he standards. I'm disagreeing. Women can fuck guys who are more attractive than her. I said that for a man to get laid it takes looks, skill and confidence. Depends on the guy and where he is. Attractive guys in party colleges can get laid pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:39 PM
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Very true so when someone’s a virgin and their past has no sexual experience. That’s relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:21 PM
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I know it is. I’m just pointing out that’s it’s dumb as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:19 PM
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It could be true! I just find the response funny because most guys couldn't date a high n-count woman because of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:14 PM
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True and they still probably won't want it. So either way sex life will still be on the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:47 PM
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Pre-selection. You desire a man who has experience and who’s desired by other women. Yep You want a man who can take charge and who can put you in your place. only in the bedroom ;) Susceptible to Dread Game. To an extent but then I start losing interest You want a man of higher status than yourself. You want him to make more money than you make. True but only because a lot of men start to get really weird if you make more money than them. I also want someone to make at least a similar amount as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:46 PM
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but some women think that that's as good as it will get
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:39 PM
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I have exes that were hung up on me for a long time. But I was never hung up on any exes. Yep agreed. Men have a harder time after breakups than women, from studies that I've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:38 PM
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I take my validation ONLY from my partner so I feel like I am losing everything if he gives that attentin to someone else Agreed like do you have nothing else in your life except for validation from your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:36 PM
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AHAHAHAHA this is great
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:34 PM
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I like this response. Sums it up and doesn't have to find some weird logic. If it's not for you, then it's not for you. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:33 PM
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Banging every hot stud that makes a pass at her is just going to make her dating life harder. That's if she bangs all the hot studs in the same social circle. A lot of men have a don't ask, don't tell policy with n-count so it can be very easy to be a slut and get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:33 PM
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Women dont need experience to know sex is bad I actually have to disagree. A lot of women don't know what they're missing. They don't understand why men love sex so much when really they've just never had good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:31 PM
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Cant turn a hoe into a housewife, right? Yeah because staying home to cook and clean all day and change diapers is what we should all strive for as our main goal in life /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:30 PM
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I've fucked a few Chads. If Chad isn't good in bed then he's very easy to get over. For me if you're attractive enough but good in bed I'll think of you more fondly than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:28 PM
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Yep this is a good point and can confirm as a high n count woman. Although it's a bit more complex than that because the more you have sex with one person, usually the better the sex gets. It has to be somewhat good sex to begin with or it's not going to work for me. This is why I tend to partner up better with high n count men. Once you have incredible sex, there's no going back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:25 PM
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It shows they have no control, they are addicts. It shows that they jump straight into bed as soon as they find someone attractive. So of course they're more likey to cheat Men would do this if they could and many high status attractive men do this. Are they more likely to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:22 PM
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that women can usually fuck higher and have to lower their standards for LTRs Can confirm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:20 PM
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For a woman to get laid, all she has to do is lower her standards. I've fucked a lot of guys and rarely have lowered my standard. Most guys that are attractive and are attracted to me are down for sex. I fucked above my looksmatch and similar to my looksmatch. I also only fuck college educated guys unless I'm on vacation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:19 PM
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High N count women's perspective: I think that the issue is that I've experienced incredible sex. For a relationship I need high quality sex and that can put pressure on guys. If I find a good match and he's a good lover, I have no issues committing and become significantly more attracted to them. I tend to work best with high n count guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:17 PM
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You’re an idiot if you think that’s how this will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:04 PM
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Lmao “don’t need fixing” them why are there c-sections? Why do women even have to deliver babies in the hospital? Why does pregnancy kill so many more women in developing countries? Why is there an entire part of the hospital dedicated to child birth? Because it’s a fucking medical issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:52 PM
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That’s a good point thank you for this clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:49 PM
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Raising it without him is she aware that’s statistically much worse for the child? Does she have enough finances to afford that? Is she working? If so can she afford daycare? Does she have enough space for a crib and all necessary baby products? Can she afford diapers? If your automatic response to hardship is to use drugs, then you’re probably not ready to raise a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:45 PM
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Yeah but you’re no incapable of being part of an accidental pregnancy. The woman can then decide to go to term and then bam you have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:41 PM
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Maybe you need to have more orgasms and your libido will increase. When you do have sex what’s it like? Is it two minutes of penetration? Can you orgasm from penetration or do you need to be fingered/eaten out before?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:38 PM
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Haha in general but there are exceptions. Love your username lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:35 PM
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The CDC studies what is most relevant to public health. Bisexual men who have sex with men are included in MSM I don’t get why this is so hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:34 PM
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Thanks for the study. This isn't new BC though. It was done from 2001-2013, I know BC increased blood clots but was confused how the new type is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:50 AM
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You could possibly look into the diaphragm. I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with birth control. I've heard mixed things about the copper IUD but am glad there is at least one non-hormonal option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:45 AM
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Yep that was what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:42 AM
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I think the pain is wrapped up in the callous attitudes of boyfriends and others who pressured them into getting one. That doesn't seem like it would be the best environment to raise a baby in. If a boyfriend is pressuring you into getting an abortion, it would probably be a nightmare raising a child with him. They are dealing with it with drug use, which obviously isn't good. If they have drug issues then that would be difficult during pregnancy and definitely not a best environment to raise a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:35 AM
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It's still a medical issue. Even if it's a "natural process" it's killing a lot more women than birth control ever did.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:31 AM
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The new BC is even worse for blood clots. Can you post some data about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:29 AM
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The parents that are cautioning their daughters to be "care who they spread their legs with" are mostly pro-life families. This is a really good point. I think especially younger women, like you pointed out, have less ability to be pro-choice. Thank you for this perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:28 AM
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Yes I agree with all of this. Birth control is very powerful and can have a wide range of effects that are both positive and negative. There is also a bit of trial and error and some birth controls will work better for you than others. I just hope more research happens and in the future we get even more options with less side effects. And also, that men get to have some long-term, reversible birth control method too. I hope so too!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:25 AM
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I know I meant you see it from the same perspective as me. You have a vasectomy that women aren't aware of but still want to have unprotected sex. I have nexplanon (implant) that men are not aware of but still want to have unprotected sex without asking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 07:23 AM
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Feeling sad about having an abortion will fuck up their lives far less than having a child as an unmarried mother in high school or college. Yep having a child as an unmarried mother in high school or college is one of the most life ruining decisions one can make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:51 AM
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Until I jumped into the casual world myself and found that the recklessness happens all over. Oh 100% agreed. I'm just surprised by how many men I've experienced who have wanted to have unprotected sex without asking me if I'm on birth control. My experience is with men. Since you have a vasectomy, you probably see it from the opposite angle, where you've already assured that you won't be impregnating someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:45 AM
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Personally I see a fetus as basically a parasite that would be invading my body and want it out of my body ASAP. Everybody's different though. I'm not in a place in my life where a SO opinion would ever sway me to go to term but agreed that could be a difficult situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:28 AM
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Some only mentioned after they knew I was snipped. (Why’d they’d believe a stranger I don’t know!) Ah that makes more sense but yeah I never would want to rely on a stranger for that! How many women have you fucked with a penis to know this? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:25 AM
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No because then it affects all women in the workforce because people are less likely to promote them because they fear that they will have children. There are less senior women because so many mothers drop out of the work force.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:15 AM
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Okay well they probably know if they’re on birth control or not. No condom does feel better, but usually the guy suggests it. Also have to worry about STIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:12 AM
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See I think it's riskier for women to have children than men but not to have sex. I do see your point though maybe I am making abortion to sound more accessible and an easier process than it is. I am also coming from an environment where abortion is very accessible, most people are pro-choice and birth control is readily available.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 06:07 AM
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True that's why I said in the beginning of my post that I was talking about Western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:52 AM
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1 out of 4 of those girls end up in a relationship, and 3 out of 4 of those girls don't Not sure how you got that number but okay. I'm really not that concerned. If you care that much about laughing at women who are single when they're 30 then you probably have some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:49 AM
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But the parents especially the mother need to have skin to skin contact with the child. You realize your kid can still go to daycare and have skin to skin contact with it's parents
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:44 AM
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lol okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:42 AM
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How is flawed? It includes bisexual men in MSM (men who have sex with men) and the rates of transmission of HIV between women who have sex with women are so low that they are not considered to be a public health crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:31 AM
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I think the side effects are can be terrible. Some people don't have terrible side effects, birth control affects every woman differently. I'm saying women have to deal with medications their whole lives that men don't have to even think about. Yeah men also don't have to think about maternal death. Pregnancy complications are the 6th leading cause of death in the US for women 15-35 and kill 830 women everyday Birth control saves women's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:29 AM
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Yes they are at risk but the risks are much lower. I'm not sure why you're getting so hung up on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:15 AM
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Translation: it's easy to force women to take responsibility but it's too hard to force men to do anything Yep women are much better behaved in society. Parents reinforce this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:12 AM
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Read your comments wrong, I thought you meant the teenagers as the parents haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:11 AM
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No, it isn't a medical issue. A pregnancy isn't a disease. I mean in some ways it is. For women between the ages of 15-35 pregnancy complications are the 6th leading cause of death in the US. In developing countries the rate is significantly worse. Everyday 830 women die from pregnancy complications. So if it's not a disease, then is it homicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:07 AM
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The choices (real power) lie with women reproductively. This is mostly true. I will say that this is not true for women under 18, where many need parental permission to get an abortion or to go on birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:03 AM
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It's possible but the rates are much lower. I've taken classes about sexual health.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 03:01 AM
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Don't stick your dick in crazy is a thing people say. That’s true but it’s more of an attack on the woman and more light hearted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:52 AM
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Female to female sex have almost no transmission rate. The CDC focuses on men who have sex with men and bisexual men are included in that statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:50 AM
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almost no STDs. I can find a statistic if you want but super low rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:41 AM
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Also BMI gets a bit messed up for really tall people. But yes I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:26 PM
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" In 2011–2014, the prevalence of obesity was lower among women and men who were college graduates (27.8% [women], 27.9% [men]" True but this part sticks out to me. Most high status men now have a college degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:15 PM
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she can just put it in a deposit box What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:07 PM
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There should be paternity testing done before a man has to pay child support. Child support is for the child because the state doesn't want to have to pay for it. If a woman never asks for benefits then the state will never force a man to pay child support. The child will likely have a better life if it's adopted as an infant than it would with two parents who barely know each other. I am not really sure how I feel about it morally though. There is a father registry that men can go on in some st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:06 PM
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Most wealthy men aren't obese. Obesity is heavily correlated to poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 11:02 PM
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I also think that means making sure both partners are sexually satisfied. If I'm having sex with my partner but he doesn't want to do any foreplay and cums within 2 minutes, then that's not satisfying my sexual needs, even though we had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:59 PM
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Child support is for the child and because of the State. I don't understand why any women would ever want to have a child when they can't afford it and the father has no interest in being present but I probably also grew up in a different environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:57 PM
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LMAO well that we can agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:55 PM
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There's an orgasm gap between men and women. 70% of women don't regularly orgasm from penetration a lone. Only 40-60% of heterosexual women regularly experience an orgasm during partner sex compared to 91% of straight men. You're assuming that quality and quantity mean the same thing, likely because you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:54 PM
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How should it? Or how does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:47 PM
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I meant for men having sex with women it's risky because of accidental pregnancy. For men having sex with men it's risky because of STD rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:41 PM
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and teenagers are known for their amazing decision making /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:40 PM
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Yep and men who don't want to risk having to pay child support can use abstinence to prevent this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:35 PM
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I would rather my minor daughters regret having an abortion than regret not having one. What kind of a question is this? You think a 16-year-old is ready to have a baby? 100% agree people at 16 can't legally drink yet people think it's a good idea for them to have a baby? It's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:34 PM
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No it's really not. Look at the statistics I posted, condoms have an even higher failure rate. The IUD and Nexplanon have much lower failure rates because they are not prone to human error.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:31 PM
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The pill is actually closer to 9% failure rate. This is mainly due to human error such as not taking it everyday, not refilling the pill on time and interactions with medications. you ARE on the pill and crying WHAT DON'T YOU TRUST MEEEE when he pulls out a rubber. Omg be realistic, 90% of the time men don't want to wear condoms. If a girl starts saying that don't you think it might not be a good idea to sleep with her? Most of the time men just assume the woman will deal with all pregnancy rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:29 PM
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See what I don't understand about you is you don't want women to have to make this moral decision yet you think female contraception, which reduces abortions, is terrible. And forgotten in the whole debate is men, who get off scot-free and don't have to make these moral decisions or live with such decisions. I think you're major issue is with biology. It's my body, so my choice. It almost seems like you want men to have a say in abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:25 PM
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That doesn't systematically effect men as a whole though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:20 PM
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And most women are being 'treated' by these medications when they have NO medical issues - they simply do not wish to get pregnant. Getting pregnant is a medical issue. I have significantly more agency as a woman because of birth control. I can now have sex without living in fear of becoming pregnant. I would never want to rely on man to ensure that I don't get pregnant. So you can talk about how horrible birth control is but it is one of the best things that has ever happened to advance women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:15 PM
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Short answer: "What if the woman doesn't know who the father is or he won't contact her?" Long answer: the adoption industry is very complex and varies by state law in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:00 PM
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Depends on the state. I posted sources for all my claims that you can click on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:59 PM
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The real issue is that men expect women to take on all the responsibility and themselves none. This is very true. The amount of men who try to raw dog without even asking me if I'm on birth control speaks volumes about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:58 PM
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95% of women don't regret getting an abortion. It's a much bigger commitment to have a child than it is to get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:57 PM
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and they typically have a lot more risk and responsibility when it comes to pregnancy, child birth, and caring for babies. That's a very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:56 PM
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Then you are at lower risks of contracting an STD but are still at risk of accidental pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:55 PM
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They are taught what the risks are but they still treat themselves as children and women as adults. Women are expected to take on all responsibility while men expect to take on none. This is so true. The birth control methods for women are all bad. I don't think that's fair. Birth control methods can all be bad but women react differently towards them. Birth control can treat PCOS, for endometriosis, and for acne. I have had great experience with birth control but I understand other women don't.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:53 PM
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But in more conservative parts of the US where sometimes sex education is poor and misleading, access to abortion is restricted, and the shame of premarital sex weighs more heavily on the female, Very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:33 PM
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yes but not even close to the same levels of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:57 PM
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That's great but still makes women socially, economically and politically less equal than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:42 PM
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Women also have to worry if the condom breaks and he doesn't say anything, or going through the pain of an abortion, or ruining their social reputation, or the father ditching if she does get pregnant That's a good point. I agree socially it's much risker for women to sleep around. You're right though men aren't as cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:26 PM
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That's a good point. I know it's insane that this is the first time in human history where it could have flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:25 PM
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hahaha yes in the group of MSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:24 PM
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Hm that's an interesting/good point. I guess I see rape and sex as separate but there could be overlap, like in the situation you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:07 PM
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Yes I love it! So easy to get and so effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:45 PM
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I'm actually a woman and I have nexplanon (the implant) but awesome! Congrats on the vasectomy enjoy your freedom and control!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:30 PM
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In my opinion that makes women less equal in society and economically. It’s also unfair to hold mothers to a completely different standard then they’re childfree women counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:12 PM
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I’m talking about an experiment people ran. It was hypothetical omg just read my sources if you want to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:58 PM
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Ahh okay I see now what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:11 PM
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That’s the pregnancy part not the children part. Why can’t men help more with childcare? Be the on-call parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:08 PM
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They can't have lots of children. How many parents actually want this? Seems like birth control is a big explanation for why this doesn’t happen anymore. In Russia many people stop at 1 child because of economic reasons. Could be also could be for uncertainty of the future. Not wanting kids etc. Most of the countries with the highest fertility rates are extremely poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:05 PM
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Really what about the women who die during it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:53 PM
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I think commercial surrogacy is going to be interesting. I’ve already read some stories of wealthy women who use surrogates because they don’t want to have to take time off work etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:52 PM
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You’re right it is more than just money. I have heard it correlated to money though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:47 PM
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First off I wouldn’t say that a birth rate of 2.04 is horrible. I also think that I’m Saudi Arabia the strict regulations are probably not so conducive to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:46 PM
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That’s a good point. here’s the list. I don’t know I’ve heard studies that it’s correlated with wealth but that might not be the only explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:44 PM
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By equality I’m thinking of this definition: "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes" Yeah but why do children have to disrupt a mothers career so much more than a fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:42 PM
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Did you read the sources? People rate mothers less competent and fathers more competent in an experiment about who they would hire. I do agree though that many mothers want to have different hours after children than they’re male and child free women counterparts. It can be frustrating for mothers that don’t want to be mommy tracked though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:39 PM
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Idk but I've seen a lot of articles that want universal daycare and two years of maternity leave. There are also tons of articles talking about women need flexible jobs where they can work from home. It drives me nuts because people constantly equate being a woman with being a mother. The latter is the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:20 AM
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Women do more of the child rearing, but I would guess upon close inspection that some of that is due to men being made to feel like the subordinate parent. This is a really interesting point. Thank you for this perspective. She chose to be married, get pregnant, and may end up quitting her job. If that makes her unhappy, that's by choice. True I was thinking of it more at a societal level though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 09:18 AM
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Here's a list. Let me know if you find one film that has a female lead on that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:54 AM
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Wow this is very interesting! I know when couples adopt, girls are much more sought after than boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:37 AM
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This I agree with I was talking about this part: "Majority of alpha male are losers and criminals"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:54 AM
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Cool I'll take my chances. My parents have a ~10 year age gap and have been married for 30 years, just because a guys older than a woman doesn't mean he won't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:41 AM
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No but she seems interesting from what I just googled
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:24 AM
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It's because men don't want to be responsible for their actions. For the first time in history women have more reproductive control. Men want to be able to raw dog and nut in any woman with zero consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:33 AM
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Look at the amount of movies centered around a man finding love vs. a woman finding love. Men have many different identities in movies and TV shows that don't involve them being in a relationship. involuntary single Also involuntary single? Many men don't mind being single but they do mind not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:30 AM
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Yes, stay at home mom depression is real. It can be hard staying at home with kid(s). While working moms are interacting with coworkers, doing “meaningful” work, and going to the bathroom in peace, I’m changing diapers, covered head to toe in who knows what, and am only conversing with a two year old and three month old, neither of which can hold a substantial conversation. Hmm this sounds a bit different than But, I like it that way. But you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:24 AM
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Can you post some statistics backing this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:16 AM
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I was talking about on a societal level. I also don't think women always realize how parenting duties will be delegated. A lot of people think that they will be doing 50/50 parenting work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:04 AM
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Women should be very careful with whom they are having children with. Agreed but men need to be more careful about who they spread their legs with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 03:35 AM
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most "good girls" aren't having babies out of wedlock
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 03:09 AM
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Yet you expect low life women to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 03:02 AM
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Women often try to trap such men with a baby. Then that's on men to close their legs. Women can fuck lots of people without getting pregnant or if pregnancy occurs they can get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:51 AM
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LMAO then why are more women going to college compared to men now? Why are more women going to law school? Why are more women going to Med School?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:48 AM
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Yep mothers are less equal socially, economically and indirectly politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:48 AM
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Birthrates are lowest in countries the most amenable to women and children. Yep because they have the most to give up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:46 AM
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Women works gettitg the houne clean atd then nhe does get to play withmthe kids at 3pm ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:46 AM
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because he became famous from a mugshot and is now in a relationship and has a kid with a billionaire's daughter
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:45 AM
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Men have to pay child support even if they don't want the child. Everyone's aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:39 AM
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You didn't come down on whether any demographic or social policy is to blame for these unequal outcomes or whether they are purely an outcome of biological differences. Nor did you suggest any solutions. Not a lot of meat there. That's a very good point. Maybe I should have flaired this as a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:39 AM
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Men are aware that the law doesn't work that way though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:38 AM
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time to play with his kids in the yard. Exactly dads want to do the fun part. Does the dad still want to come home at 3:00 PM to change his kid's diaper or to clean up the kid's play area? Does the dad want to miss an important meeting to pick his sick kid up from school? Does the Dad want to come home at 3:00 PM to do laundry and make his kids dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:35 AM
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Your body your choice, your responsibility. Then be careful where you deposit your semen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:31 AM
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but it's easy to educate women into not fucking those No it's easy to educate people on birth control. Women can have sex with a ton of "assholes/deadbeats/criminals" without getting pregnant if they are on a good form of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:30 AM
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What's a better "quality man"? Also you realize that because of birth control many women can open their legs and not get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:29 AM
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That same society views fathers as greater, though they are not nearly as involved Damn this is so true. Even in r/parenting all the top posts of all time are about dads not moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:21 AM
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That would only be about point one though. What about the rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:20 AM
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The ones who have kids and are involved in the work sphere arent unequal to men, in the sense they both have the right and opportunity to work Yes but statistically they still do more child rearing, housework and are the on-call parent. I agree though it tends to be a healthier set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:18 AM
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Fathers get significantly less time with their children. And their rights to that access are much more tenuous and a lot more costly to keep How many dads actually want to have that much more time with their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:16 AM
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The musculoskeletal system of a man is far superior to that of a woman. Yeah so? Physical labor isn't that important to most people. Most men are physically stronger than women but that's not really that relevant to daily life The irrational behavior attributed to female hormonal imbalances is also a major downside of being female. I mean okay? Not sure that really has a big impact on women plus birth control can easily fix this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:15 AM
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This is what I was thinking about for less equal: "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:10 AM
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I've heard some long term impacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:10 AM
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My only question is, are women making certain choices and then claiming less equality? Yep they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:09 AM
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I'm thinking at more of a societal level but I see your point. I think we're thinking about equality differently. That said, your last point in the OP is operational, namely that parenthood reinforces traditional gender roles. Culture is downstream from biology. Yeah but now women have overcome many biological issues. Birth control has made it so women can have sex without getting pregnant and often don't have a period. Tampons and pads have made it so women can take care of their periods and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:08 AM
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I agree. I wrote that in another post. Just think Jeremy Meeks is an interesting example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:54 PM
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Yes but I do think that people minimize the effects of how bad pregnancy can be, how bad childbirth can be and how the damage from it can be forever altering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:44 PM
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That's the most equivalent person that comes to mind when thinking of how trophy wives are usually described
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:38 PM
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Okay fine but they have a kid together lol so Trophy Boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:29 PM
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Jeremy Meeks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:23 PM
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I just thought of a trophy husband example: Jeremy Meeks He's the famous mugshot guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:22 PM
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they still have to contend with their frail minds and bodies. Can you expand on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:20 PM
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Yep especially in wealthy countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:19 PM
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although he likely has to be tall You might have missed that part. I don't think someone who looks like Danny DeVito would be a trophy husband but Danny DeVito himself could potentially be a trophy husband given the status benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:17 PM
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Can you clarify what you mean by less "equal"? By equal I was thinking of this definition of feminism: "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes" Also, if having a baby makes them unequal, why do they do it, and want to do it, and report glad they did it If you want to become a parent then it might be worth it despite being less equal in society. I'm not saying that no one should become a parent but I do believe that most issues that women systematically face in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:15 PM
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Didn't realize this was so obvious haha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 10:57 PM
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YEs but a trophy husband isn't someone who's super attractive although he likely has to be tall. In my opinion a trophy husband isn't a hot beach dude he has to be respected in society. For men marrying a really attractive woman is a status symbol, for women marrying a high status man (think respected last name), who has a high paying job is a status symbol. Women care more about money, men care more about appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 10:56 PM
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To which part? They put in more effort and want to go on dates and don't live in a frat house and don't have as many sexual hang ups and are more supportive of women in power careers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:52 PM
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how long ago were you 22 and did you go to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:35 PM
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Yeah still staggering numbers just saying they that it does include gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:18 PM
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I don’t give a shit. I’d rather be treated better,
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:17 PM
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Because in other societies women and men are vastly unequal so children wouldn’t be as impactful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:15 PM
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Hmm interesting but gay men are included in that figure. So they might have great sex lives just no female sexual partners. Interesting study though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:21 AM
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yep :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:09 AM
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Yes I just wanted to point out that not all 28% are a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:06 AM
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not if you only wear it on your face
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:53 AM
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Many women regret having children though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:49 AM
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They are mostly going to regret it come 50. Do you have some statistics to back this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:47 AM
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When women don't have kids we can basically overcome most of the obstacles that hold women back in Western Society. Women do more of the child rearing, having declining careers, have to go through pregnancy and birth, their body changes and in the case of a SAHM the power dynamics intensely shifts. So by not having kids women can avoid many issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:46 AM
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I think OP is also confusing marriage with having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:37 AM
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28% are celibate. Not 100% celibate but they have not had sex in the past year
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:30 AM
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72% of all young men are celibate? 28% haven't had sex in the past year. You flipped the statistic. I would say combination of the top men get laid more especially with dating apps but I think more it's that many women would not be attracted to a guy/logistically it would be hard to date someone who still lived at home with their parents so that cuts out a large portion of young American men. I personally prefer men a few years older. My experience has been much better compared to college aged g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:29 AM
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Those young women obviously are having sex with older more established guys when they could instead be having sex with guys that are more their own age Can confirm especially post/end of college. I'm 22 and in the past 6 months have primarily only been dating/sleeping with guys 28-30. They put in more effort, want to go on dates, don't live in a frat house, don't have as many sexual hang ups and are more supportive of women in power careers. Edit: the statistic says 18% of women not 12% of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:25 AM
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I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. Money is a lot more stable than youthful beauty. That being said, a lot of younger women like dating older guys. I personally like dating guys at least a few years older because 90% of my guys (early 20s) aren't interested in going on dates, have sexual hang ups, and are more competitive with me about my career. A lot of these guys are open to dating women within a wide age range. We see you ignoring women your own age, who you would have more in c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:21 AM
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My dad's dyed his hair for like 20 years, no one's ever made a comment. These coworkers just sound annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:48 AM
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Then why did you make this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:46 AM
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How is it a red flgad he told me he was into her though? Because if he was actually serious about you, he probably wouldn't bring up his fantasy of another woman. Look if you actually want something casual and don't mind your situation, then you wouldn't have made this post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:38 AM
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Oof OP you are like a nice guy. Several people gave you advice, which you can choose to ignore. No. You can't be in love with someone who has never given you anything to go on other than facebook likes, lets be real here. I mean he seemed pretty into her. It's also a red flag that he told you he was into her. If you want to keep chasing after men who have told you they're not going to commit, then go for it but don't complain that no one appreciates "nice people" and they finish last.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:02 AM
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However, he and I are benefitting each other mutually right now and really enjoy each other's company. "He's willing to throw commitment and intent at some other woman who always kept him at arm's length, lay his heart on the line, for her to reject him so he can pine and long for her over social media forevermore." OP clearly you're not benefitting mutually. You're complaining that you don't have anyone to commit with but then are chasing this guy who's interested basically in love with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:31 AM
5

Very well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:09 AM
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accepting and mildly amused yet here I had no idea how I was going to eat that week after spending the money he's telling me he is "going to consider many factors" to determine if I'm the right one for him. OP I'm sorry with all do respect but there's a difference between being nice and being a doormat. Why would you risk going starving to buy a 40 year old guy you're fucking an expensive gift? If a guy tells you he's "considering a lot of factors" to see if you're eligible to date then move on,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:07 AM
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I mean a guy who’s 5’6, taller than the average woman, will still have more difficult attracting women than a guy who’s 5’10. I’m not saying it’s fair or it should be this way, but statistics aren’t always fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:04 AM
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I agree but most women want a guy who's taller than them. I just don't think boobs and height are on the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:59 AM
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Height is significantly more valuable for men than boobs are for women. Muscles could be comparable to ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 06:25 AM
1

LMAO this is what my dad did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 06:16 PM
1

Yeah yeah “you’ll never be prepared” That's bullshit that people say. Everybody should at least be financially prepared when they have children and ready to have their life altered.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 06:15 PM
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I don't care about his n-count as in the actual number but I have a high n count so am going to be more compatible with someone who's sexually experienced and has had casual sex before. I don't think I would be as compatible with someone who has a really low n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 06:03 PM
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I agree about there being a difference I was more just using examples to explain my point. Does your GF know your n count? And how do you know she’s telling the truth about hers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:53 PM
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Society treats you better when you look attractive. People are nicer, more interested in what you have to say and you’re still competing against other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:31 PM
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Lmao I love how your argument is an ego stroke at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:30 PM
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I personally think that those with similar n counts will be more compatible. A guy with a really high n count will probably have similar views on sex to a woman with a high n count. Those with really low n counts will probably be more compatible. Sometimes it’s better to just have a don’t ask, don’t tell policy. A woman with a really high n count probably won’t be that compatible with a virgin. A man with a really high n count probably is better suited to a woman who is at least very sexual and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:28 PM
1

Here you go. IQ is correlated with a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:48 PM
1

Penis size tends to be larger in societies that were less monogamous (average is ~ 6 inches) such as Latin America and parts of Africa. Penis size tends to be smaller (average is ~4.5 inches) in more traditionally monogamous societies such as Asia. Porn has inflated how important penis size is, most women are not looking for 8+ inches that is seen in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:01 PM
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Traditionally more monogamous societies (many places in Asia) have smaller penis sizes than less traditionally monogamous societies (Latin america). Regardless the range tends to not be THAT different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:56 PM
1

High status men aren’t NECESSARILY smart but usually they ARE smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:52 PM
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People generally date people who are in the same range but you’ll see more 7 women dating 5-6 men than vice versa, You’ll almost never see a 10 guy with a 3 woman but you sometimes see a 3-4 guy with an 8-9 woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:47 PM
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Yes looks are the initial attraction but attraction can run way deeper. Men are actually more visual than women in terms of sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:45 PM
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This is false. Source: sexually promiscuous woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:58 PM
2

Omg lol that’s amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:57 PM
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Okay sorry not anywhere near the same level of a problem anymore. A lot more options to prevent pregnancy, and then get an abortion in case of pregnancy. Men should also avoid impregnating someone if they’re not ready to be a father. Takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:57 PM
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Well why not advocate for men not to care so much about sexual partner counts and to stop shaming female sexuality? Until that changes women this pattern is always gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:48 PM
2

Not always a problem anymore with birth control...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:46 PM
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I do think it’s a bit irrational. I don’t care what billy down the street does sexually. I think people care too much. I understand why a romantic partner or sexual partner would care, but I don’t see why friends and acquaintances give a shit. For what it’s worth I feel the same way about virginity. I don’t see why anyone who’s not a sexual or romantic partner gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:39 PM
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You could say intelligence is not correlated, but you’re choosing famous people, which are different then everyday people. Women are more likely to choose high status men, most high status men are smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:35 PM
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Both men and women criticize women for being sexually promiscuous. They are told this by their friends, their enemies, their exes, their romantic partners, their fuck buddies, their acquaintances, their families etc,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:39 AM
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Then there’s only like 8,000 Chads in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:33 AM
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Thank you for backing up this point. Almost every guy argues with me on this or just immediately says that’s only for gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:32 AM
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Yes I do. Yeah there is and women also often get diagnosed later. A majority of women that have it have the primarily inattentive type but I have the ADHD-C (combined time). I wrote a whole post about it if you check my post history. It's also can be harder to tell if people have it if they're on medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 07:02 AM
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Aw sorry to hear that. Yeah I've found it happen to me naturally (similar seeks similar)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:53 AM
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I would approach skinny girls more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:45 AM
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You're just naive. You asked a question and bunch of people have provided answers, but you really just want to talk about how fake you think women are. If that makes you feel better then fine, but you know what would really make you feel better: working on improving yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:36 AM
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Morals don't pay the bills. Lol that's sort of a joke but I tend to be primarily attracted to business men/lawyers. EDIT: before anybody calls me a gold digger I'm going into similar career that I'm attracted to and plan on making my own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:32 AM
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80-90% of ADD people end up in relationships with other ADD people, according to my psychiatrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:28 AM
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Cause being skinnyfat is seen as near-ideal if you're a woman but is a death sentence if you're a dude. (Working on this one) This is false. Most women just don't like to be too much bigger than a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:27 AM
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I no longer struggle though because I’ve completely dropped out of the relationship rat race and I am much happier for it. Some people are way happier single. Relationships aren't for everyone, and if you're happy then no reason to try to change but seems like you've figured that out. Keep doing you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:25 AM
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Last time I had it, it was filled with dudes from local universities with no bio, just pics of them doing sports and a link to their instagram. Bumble also lets you screen by education levels, which could be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:22 AM
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Many of these are things you can work on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:19 AM
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You're not interested though. Instead of listening you're being argumentative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:19 AM
4

Exactly sexual compatibility is very important
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:16 AM
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A lot harder to find a good partner for a LTR than it is to find sex, especially in college and it takes more effort. It's also the fact that there's several men offering you sex, so if you really enjoy sex it's harder to always resist temptation. Another reason: alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:14 AM
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You really need to redo your post to a CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:10 AM
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Because despite popular belief women desire sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:09 AM
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Men should also add their education and job, it its high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:02 AM
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OP you asked a question and I provided an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:57 AM
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That's what I do :) but I can see why other women would change their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:45 AM
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Actually you can browse and find many men saying they won't a date a girl who sleeps with him on the first date because then "she probably does that with everyone"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:38 AM
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Single motherhood is a choice Not always, a lot of times men abandon their baby momma. So women go into it thinking they have a partner and then a few months in they find out that's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:35 AM
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More men living at home, many male blue-collar dominated jobs are not there anymore, more women go to college than men, so essentially many don't fit the solid career part Hard to show women you're really funny if you stay home every night, which is now easier because of porn, internet, and video games Instead of working on confidence many men decide to blame external sources. "women have too high standards" "women are bitches they only want Chads" "My trade is so much better than some stupid co…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:32 AM
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It's because after being young, wild, and free women are not seen as "GF material". After a few experience you notice a pattern, men often won't ask you for a second date if you have sex on the first. Women are told that they can't be too sexual if they want a relationship. Eventually they become ashamed of their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:26 AM
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Women can fuck more attractive men, men can date more attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:21 AM
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There is no fucking way a fat, ugly neckbeard. Is getting laid. He can get laid in a relationship. If he has a solid career, is really funny, and confident I'm sure he could find a nice GF and have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:20 AM
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Not sure why you want to be so stubborn. You can disregard everything I'm saying and stomp your feet because women only chase Chads :( or you can realize that other factors besides physical attractiveness matter for sexual attraction to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:19 AM
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22 is peak age where we're most attractive. Also lol at your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:10 AM
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Pros -I have perky decently sized tits despite being skinny -I'm smart -I've travelled to lots of places -Open-minded -Peak age of 22 -Can orgasm from penetration -Give good head Cons -On the crazy/hot scale -Sexually experienced -Stubborn
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 04:09 AM
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Yes to an extent but I'm telling you most women's sexual attraction is very influenced by a man's ambition/career. Women's appearance is a higher priority to men than it is to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:58 AM
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Eh I would say more like 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:50 AM
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Well a lot of women won't have sex unless it's with someone they see long-term compatibility. I'm significantly more sexually attracted to a lawyer than a janitor even if I'm just having a ONS. For a majority of men their sexual attraction wouldn't change, which is why they also disagree when I mention the importance of career etc. on sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:49 AM
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I'm a woman with a high sex drive so I have sex way too soon, which makes some guys see me as only a fuck buddy. I'm also a bit crazy. In general though, I've worked on a lot of my issues and am now doing much better romantically and personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:45 AM
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Women might fuck a hot beach bum, but many won't settle down with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:43 AM
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Why does everybody forget that for men their career/ambition/education is nearly as important as their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:36 AM
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Yeah but men care about women's appearance more than women care about men's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 03:36 AM
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If it's just about sex, then why not pay a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:51 AM
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Because having their vagina torn, stressing oneself financially to raise a child, and the endless screams of a baby can surprisingly impact women’s happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 07:08 AM
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Yeah money’s important to women just like looks are important to men. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:39 AM
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Your girl friends are serial monogamists. I have some friends like that. Maybe it's that for most women that really want a relationship, they end up in one they wouldn't include them in statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:59 PM
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(unlike fat cat-ladies claiming men will feel sorry when they die alone. someone's bitter...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:05 PM
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That’s telling you immediately thought about sex. Not sure if you're talking about me but I'm a woman with a high sex drive so that's why I included it in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:04 PM
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My whole point is that single women statistically are happier than single men, so they don't have to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:03 PM
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lol sure a lot of men want that but how many men are successful at that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:01 PM
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I think some do it to try to make girls feel special but others just seem like they're really fucked up and I'm an easy person to talk to because my judgement of them doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:54 PM
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Damn that's a very pessimistic view. If you're in love you should be able to open up to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:21 PM
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Ah that's a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:16 PM
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True but that also involves not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:13 PM
2

Yes why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:11 PM
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A lot of women will lower their standards on physical appearance if the guy has a lot else to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:10 PM
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We have to deal with that shit by ourselves. This makes me sad. Do you think men are more likely to ask their SO for help?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:59 PM
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How is this nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:56 PM
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And when these women vs men debates pop up, for some reason children aren't taken into account Because that debate would be "women who want children need marriage more than men" I'm also a 22 year old woman, in a community where women who get accidentally pregnant when they're not married, get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:51 PM
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Having fantasized about someone in the privacy of your own head doesn't make them any less your friend. That's also a good point. I think issues arise more when one friend catches deeper feelings for the other. You could be sexually attracted to someone but not interested in them romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:42 PM
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I mean not sure wtf you are saying but birth control has made it so women don't face the tradeoff between having sex and pregnancy. Now women, bar bicycles, wives, girlfriends and everything in between can have sex with a much lower risk of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:35 PM
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Maybe unaware was the wrong word, but unprepared. I'm not talking about women who excel in their education and have power careers, I'm talking more about many women who spend their 20s almost entirely focused on the fact that they are pretty. Many Instagram models etc. Some do end up in making a good amount of money and getting married or achieving other goals etc. You make a good point though, most women aren't the stereotype of complaining about how there's no good men left.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:28 PM
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The flaw in your thought process is that women, and people in general, can absolutely desire something that doesn’t necessarily make their lives happy - especially day to day. That's a good point. Relationships can make people very unhappy, even if one heavily desires being in a relationship For instance, women may desire motherhood while the stress of motherhood may skew happiness lower than their single child-free counterparts. I think this is probably the most common example. Many men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:21 PM
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Sorry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:16 PM
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I’m almost always alone (by choice), yet I rarely feel lonely because I have a very strong social circle. This is a very good distinction! Thank you for this perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:16 PM
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LOL that's a good point. Although alcohol abuse is increasing for many SAHM. Even the article you sent noted the connection between motherhood and alcohol usage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:14 PM
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This is a very good point. I think many women will break up with a man if he doesn't commit to marrying her. It's harder for men to have a long-term SO without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:11 PM
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Even "Chads" need to talk about their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:09 PM
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Fulfilling your physical "needs" absolutely doesn't fill the void a relationship or marriage can fill, for either sex. Yes but women have many ways to fulfill things that SO provides. For example feeling really close to someone, women tend to have close friendships where they can share very personal things. Personally, I have a physical need to have sex and as a woman it's very easy for me to obtain this. My point wasn't trying to equate sex and relationships, just that it's easier for most sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:08 PM
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Yes because this is very relevant to women being able be happy when they are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:05 PM
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I disagree. I don't think men and women can be best friends (unless one is gay) without sexual attraction getting in the way. I do think that men and women can have friendships without sexual attraction getting in the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 06:04 PM
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Thank you for this perspective!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:57 PM
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I don't get why that's funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:57 PM
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That fact that you are looking to remove the bad out of bad behavior so that it is acceptable really tells it all. My post wasn't meant to be about single mothers, that's more what I meant. I grew up in an area and have gone to school, where all the unmarried women I'm around use birth control and would get an abortion if they got pregnant, so I don't really personally know any single mothers. I don't understand why a woman would ever go to term with a child when she has no money and the man tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:56 PM
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With a the rhythm method having 24% failure rate in a year I think I'll stick to nexplanon, which is more effective than getting my tubes tied. For those that don't want to use hormones there's also the copper IUD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:50 PM
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I will agree in the fact that it would be hard to be a girl who is desired by most men for a solid 10 years and expect to plan for the future, but I think it's something that should be expressed more to young women. I agree especially with the rise in "Instagram models" and social media in general. It's also important to take care of your body if you value your appearance. Eating like shit, smoking, tanning and binge drinking can all catch up to you and make the "wall" more intense. Even then fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:46 PM
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I'm sure random teenagers making minimum wage will be just as good of a mom as you would have been. This is all about single motherhood? I literally said in my post that birth control has made sex less risky and the likelihood is lower to have negative consequences aka pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:37 PM
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That's a good point. I think it's more that men who are single in general have less community ties than women who are single. Good point about socializing issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:35 PM
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Yep I think it's good to be aware even if it's a little upsetting at first. Women also age differently and some women are significantly more fertile in their later 30s compared to others, which can all impact things. It's also important to develop other skills (education, independence, hobbies) so that your life isn't primarily appearance based. Side note but I think the reason I'm aware of how appearance affects things is when I was younger I went from having braces, acne and a lack of awarenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:32 PM
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I think you could be right. Many of the gay men I know have a much easier time opening up emotionally and have very strong friendships. That's crazy that people thought you were a couple just for going to the mall together. Now that I think of it though, I rarely see men in the US shopping together but it does seem to be more common in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:21 PM
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Hmm that's an interesting point. I think my point more is that we are social creatures and that many of us have a need to have close relationships but I'm not sure there's the fundamental need for everyone to have a SO. I'm more thinking of childless women or women who got divorced but father still involved. I'm not thinking as much about single moms, which I think face unique challenges.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:19 PM
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I've heard this a lot. I've also had guys I'm just hooking up talk a lot about deep shit because they have very few outlets. I think men tend to often require alcohol or other substances to fully open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:13 PM
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I see what you're saying. I do think that some women are unaware that beauty can fade and don't prepare very well for when they're not as attractive as they once were. I'm 22 and I'm already aware that the attention I get now isn't something that will last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:10 PM
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It's not less masculine but he's probably less likely to be seen as a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:28 PM
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Women use drugs that are better at treating issues and have less side effects to treat their problems. Men tend to have more substance ABUSE problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:25 PM
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Exactly this! More women than men also go to medical school.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:17 PM
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Not every woman who cares about her partners career is a gold digger. A lot of it has to do with similarity. I'm in college but am set up to have a very good career so my partner's career is also very important to me. I want to make my own money so I'm not a gold digger but I also want my partner have similar ambition. Also if you want to get more matches I'm just giving advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:13 PM
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You are correct well in that 1/4 people in the US have had an STI. Either way they are probably higher risk but even if you just fucked them you could still get the clap
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 05:44 PM
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don't be too slutty. Don't be a prude or uptight. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:45 PM
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How is this advice to women on dating? This is more like the blue collar worker advocacy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:42 PM
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It shows me you're easy as fuck and probably have the clap or something. Why would you fuck someone you think has the clap?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:39 PM
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Am I the only one who is probably more attracted to them? I love when guys open up to me even if I'm just hooking up with them. Then again I'm kind of fucked up so maybe like seeks like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:37 PM
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I'm a woman Guys vastly overestimate how important appearance is and underestimate how important intelligence, ambition and being confident is. On dating apps add where you went to college, your job and have pictures traveling or doing something interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:34 PM
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Okay? Well I give a damn about theirs. I’m also disagree I know men often don’t care about women’s jobs that much but I think for long term relationships college educated men and above want their SO to have a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 03:58 PM
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Not every girl majors in gender studies or soft social sciences. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:43 AM
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Yeah the first thing I do on dating app is screen by education then job then I look to see if they're attractive. I'm more compatible with people who are also college educated. I do think that the gap between men and women who get degrees could contribute to sexlessness. I didn't major in something with low prospects though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:25 AM
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I'm not going to argue with you anymore. You can read about many women's experiences where their BF turns to porn instead of them or you can just say it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:22 AM
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I think it’s more common in men under 30 actually. I agree for me they don’t scratch the same itch (I don’t really watch porn though) but for many men porn is becoming better than the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:09 AM
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Since men in the US are equally overweight as women, do you think it's probably similar for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:00 AM
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The main difference is that men and women both insult sluts whereas only women will sometimes insult "studs" and guys respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 03:39 AM
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There is nothing that will ever be better in a guys mind than getting laid.I don't think the level of satisfaction is different than regular masturbation. Just curious have you ever had sex? There are many men that jack off to porn INSTEAD of having sex with their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:49 AM
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This makes them disinclined to go seek girls IRL. Those girls are uglier than the girls they usually wank off to. They're much harder to get. It requires them to overcome their introversion and other personality quirks. It involves risk of failure. Exactly! Then guys complain that women need to "lower their standards" but by women they often mean the rare super hot women who actually resemble the women they see in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:45 AM
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There might even be some research to support that since it seems porn can help with ED. This is highly debated and porn has also been to cause erectile dysfunction. Just browse r/DeadBedrooms or r/sex and see how many men are jacking off to porn instead of having sex with their partner. I do agree that the economy could definitely explain part of sexlessness since now more men are living with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:43 AM
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Porn usage can have negative effects. You are being obtuse. You keep comparing the occasional magazine to being able to find any graphic porn scene of your choosing within 5 seconds. Men often choose watching porn and jacking off instead of having sex with their partner, even just browsing r/sex or r/DeadBedrooms and you'll see countless posts of women whose partners are choosing to watch porn instead of having sex with them. Furthermore, porn is designed for men and is very unrealistic. It's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:31 AM
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Just browse sex or dead bedrooms and see how many men choose porn over having sex with their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:15 AM
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You can keep arguing this but here are the facts in the US the most common method to kill your self is using a handgun. Men have handguns in their houses more than women. States that have more restrictions on handguns have less suicide. You can interrupt these facts anyway you want I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:04 AM
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“Laughable” maybe it was a cry for help but butchering yourself is not funny. Men probably use more lethal methods because would never want someone to think his attempt at killing himself is “laughable” Please think about the way you frame this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:01 AM
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I’ve read that divorced men are a much higher risk to die by suicide. This explanation also goes along with the impulsivity that another posted noticed where men often kill themselves in response to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:57 AM
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No matter how many times you say this, it won’t make it true. This is an extreme oversimplification. Men have more testosterone, women are conditioned from an early age to behave better and be “lady like”, men often can get away with impulsive actions that women can’t (sleeping with lots of people, binge drinking, experimenting with drugs) Women and men have different levels of hormones, different societal conditioning and different substance abuse levels, these all contribute to impulsivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:55 AM
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I agree with this for western countries at least. I do think it’s better to be a 9/10 male than a 9/10 female. There are a lot of evolutionary theories on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:51 AM
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That’s only in terms of dating though. What about friendships, daily life, interactions etc? Or is life only summed up by dating and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:50 AM
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Women will date guys who are less physically attractive than them. Women want to date up when it comes to career and salary. Men want to date up when it comes to attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:40 AM
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High heels make women more attractive most women I know want a guy to ideally be 4-5 inches taller than them so that he’s “taller than her in heels” Men find women wearing heels more attractive and women and men like men being taller than women so there you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:37 AM
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More important for what? Sex? Marriage? Dating? Please be more specific I would agree that yes women tend to fuck more hyper masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 06:34 AM
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Okay but in North America women are way more likely to take care of loved ones than men. Your family might have a very specific situation but usually that’s not case.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:43 PM
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You’re right I don’t know what it means to lack inherent value. I’m a woman so I am trying to understand other perspectives. Most of my support system comes from other women. I do hope that at least reddit or other forums can help men express themselves without being ridiculed or having it held against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:36 PM
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That’s an extreme oversimplification.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:33 PM
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I think for Asian men in the US of certain age groups it’s higher or at least account for a larger percentage of deaths. Native American males have a much higher rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:31 PM
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California and New York are two of the most populated states so that’s a big impact. Other major cities have strict gun laws such as Chicago (although that doesn’t mean Chicago doesn’t have that many guns)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:28 PM
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In countries where it would be brutal it’s often the family’s who decide who a woman marries. There are a lot of arranged marriages. In more western countries I think a lot of women can actually be pretty content without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:26 PM
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That is an extreme oversimplification.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:24 PM
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That’s very interesting. Makes sense kind of goes with the saying “permanent solution to a temporary problem”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:03 AM
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Depends on the state. It’s still not as immediate and requires more effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:02 AM
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They don’t have guns in their home as much. This explanation of guns only would explain the US though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:02 AM
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Not even other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:58 AM
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Interesting take on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:58 AM
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I tried to see if that’s worldwide but it only really talks about US. I think there’s more to it that’s that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:56 AM
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On average women are smarter but men have a greater standard deviation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:53 AM
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You started making it about women. Many men also don’t want their wives to make more than them or want their wife to stop working when they have kids even she has a higher paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:52 AM
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Thank you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:51 AM
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Not relevant to countries like South Korea for example. That would only explain suicide in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:33 AM
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I'm a woman and undecided if I want kids. I was just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 02:33 AM
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Your point about children is very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:28 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:25 AM
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I agree I think men generally need a SO to be happy more than women partly because women tend to have more intimate connections. I have also that both and men and women prefer to talk about their problems with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:24 AM
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That's a very interesting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:22 AM
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Feminists do champion men being stay at home husbands well not really sure what third wave feminism is anymore. I do agree though that women now have the option of being a SAHM, Working and having kids, or even just working and not having any kids. More men are open to their wives being a SAHM than women are about their husbands being SAHD. There is also probably more stigma from other men and society about being a SAHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:57 AM
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I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:45 AM
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I don't think it's about lowering physical looks standards there can be many other criteria that women value more in a partner. What is a mans "best"? Are you saying that because men have a hard time getting companionship they kill themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:45 AM
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I literally mentioned that in my question. Men die by suicide way more than women. Worldwide I am not sure if women or men attempt suicide more, I believe it would be harder to track this data.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:42 AM
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What about for men who don't want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:39 AM
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Lol divorcing the housewife is worse because then you have to pay alimony. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:38 AM
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I don't know if it's all about feminism. A lot of traditionally male jobs are just not around anymore for example coal mining. I also don't think it's fair to say that women who work have to recognize the damage they're doing to men. Women also aren't taking all the HIGH paying jobs. There is an identity shift and women don't have to rely on men anymore to support them like they once did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:25 AM
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This issue of suicide bombers is MUCH more complicated. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:18 AM
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Married men have an easy time making friends but those who are single or divorced have a more difficult time cultivating NEW friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:17 AM
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You are correct in the US suicide is the 6th leading cause of death for Native American men and rates are much higher for Native American women for certain age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 12:15 AM
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most men have no friends after college ends. This is a good point and I definitely agree. Friendships are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:28 PM
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This makes me sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:27 PM
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That's a horrible fucking thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:26 PM
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Very brutal in some countries because of how society treats them. I think many woman in western countries can have fulfilling lives being single in their mid 30s especially with the rise in women who don't want kids. This is where I think many woman can be happy being mid 30s and single but can have a hard time dealing with society's reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:20 PM
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Can you expand on this? Do you think it's also harder for men to deal with men than it is for women to deal with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:15 PM
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Are there no other motivating reasons why men would want to workout and seek therapy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:15 PM
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That's a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:08 PM
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structured in female-oriented ways How so? I'm actually curious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:59 PM
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Do you think it's about sex itself so for example would prostitution help? Or do you think men value being sexually desired and base their sense of self on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:57 PM
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It's not forcing men to conform to female behavior, it's stating the importance of friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:51 PM
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That's interesting and you are correct. Here is the age range and breakdown of leading causes of death for Asian males in the US and the breakdown of leading causes of death for white males in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:47 PM
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What about putting a great emphasis on male friendships? I have heard that women maintain friendships as they get older much more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:23 PM
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Do you think the extreme rise in obesity in Western countries make it so there are less 7-8s available? Making those who are 7-8s rarer and thus having more options and less competition?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:22 PM
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Here is where I saw this. I just said it was an explanation I had heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:18 PM
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This was not meant to be a who has it worse. It was more a question on why is this gender disparity apparent in most countries where there are vastly different cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:10 PM
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I was talking about when women kill themselves WITH guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:04 PM
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Do you think there are any community solutions that could help?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:52 PM
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Worldwide?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:49 PM
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Please stop framing suicide as success.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:43 PM
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Thank you for this perspective. That's a very good point. This would also explain part of the huge spike in suicide during economic crashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:42 PM
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Impulsivity is a good point I haven't thought of before
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:32 PM
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I have heard that women care about how they look when they die and even when using a gun rarely shoot their face. I have also heard that men would feel embarrassed if they attempted suicide and woke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:24 PM
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From what I've seen most average height women want someone taller than them but aren't actively attracted to height and aren't really into the 6 foot plus criteria. Some of my very short friends are actively attracted to really tall guys. I am not too sure. I have just heard that a lot of women don't want to feel bigger than a guy. It also probably depends on other factors such as age, education, race etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:22 PM
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Yes they can! I think height issue mainly has to with women wanting men to be BIGGER than them. I don’t care about height that much although I tend to prefer men who are taller than (I’m 5’5) but I’m also very skinny so at 5’7 most men are bigger than me. Ive noticed that really short girls or bigger girls tend to care more about height. I’ve had sex with guys ranging from 5’4-6’5 and sex tends to work better with those closer to my height. Once guys are 6’2 a lot of sex positions don’t work as …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:05 PM
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That’s not necessarily true but you are free to move on if you prefer to have sex earlier on in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:36 PM
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I don’t think the average man has a harder time getting romance than the average woman, but on the lower end there are probably more men who can’t get romance than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:34 PM
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I definitely believe that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:31 PM
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No I’m really not. You’re very firm in your views and can have this whole idea that women only want chads and then settle down but in reality women (at least college educated) are more sexually attracted to men with high power career and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:53 PM
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You keep bringing up Jeremy Meeks but at this point he’s a high status guy. Sexual attractiveness is highly affected by status, career and intelligence. You can keep saying it’s not but they have done studied on it and I’m a woman who have talked to several women about this. I think men have such a hard time grasping this because for men sexual attraction is not affected by this nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:50 PM
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In 2019 it sort of does lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:56 AM
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It probably also depends on women’s education levels. Usually people also seek similar partners. But the whole idea that a mans career or personality has NOTHING to do with sexual attraction is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:56 AM
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No It’s not about the meal ticket. I make my own money. It’s about ambition. I find ambition and intelligence sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:52 AM
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I don’t think you can say that money doesn’t turn anyone on. I’m personally more turned on by a lawyer than I am by a janitor. Maybe that’s fucked up but my arousal level is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:43 AM
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You can start out with romance and then get sex. For example go on 3 dates before having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:40 AM
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I think men have to get romance often to get sex whereas woman can have sex with no romance very easily. There is probably a higher percentage of men who have more trouble getting romance but I don’t think overall women have an easier time with romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:38 AM
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Women have a big advantage in getting sex but not necessarily in romance. I think both sexes also picture themselves as being at the top end of the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:22 AM
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That’s literally so false. Even if people don’t want his money, career is VERY important to most women. Edited to add source: women care more about resources and men care more about attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 04:16 AM
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Yep because for men money is WAY more important than appearance when it comes to status and ability to get women. He’s also hilarious and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 03:18 AM
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People here keep saying that men's attractiveness and women's attractiveness are the same thing. Men care more about women's attractiveness and women care more about men's salary. In general men are less selective about who they have sex with. Both men and women are equally superficial, just about different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 10:00 PM
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What consequences do you receive when you fuck someone? Oh wait praise! For women that enjoy sex, their relationship to sex is so complicated. I love sex but I also hate that I love sex, but I think in the end I’m happy to have enjoyed sex rather than never had an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:12 AM
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