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Glad we agree. That's just how things are unfortunately. Note however that bad choices aren't mutually exclusive with being a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:23 PM
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Men typically being taller than women is a secondary sex characteristic that most women find attractive. It’s not any more hypocritical than men finding full breasts and wide hips attractive, even though they have flat chests and narrow hips. Not sure how that takes away from my point. I agree it's not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:17 PM
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But why is being a virgin a requirement for desiring virgins? That doesn't make any sense to me. I'll go back to my example, is being a short tall woman a requirement for desiring tall men? No, it's not. It's not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:56 PM
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No, because women ARE shorter than men. Most of us, if we want to date, are going to be stuck dating someone taller than us whether we want it or not. I don’t know how many men I’ve met who are my height or shorter, but it’s not many. (5’). That makes zero sense. How does even remotely relate to what I said? How does men being taller on average invalidate my point??? Women wanting tall men is an example of them seeking a quality they don't possess. If this weren't the case, women wouldn't care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:52 PM
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Plenty of misogynists end up in relationships (ever heard of abusive relationships?). Misogyny is often not a barrier for men to get sex and relationships. This is just something people like to believe because they want the world to work in a certain "just" way. It doesn't though. Our society is full of instances and customs where not only unethical behavior goes unpunished but it's often rewarded and dating is no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:45 PM
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What's the hypocrisy? For example, are women who're short wanting tall men hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:42 PM
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Or, he is misogynistic, has been all his life, wants to treat women like their toilets and tells women their place is in the kitchen, in which case I’m not surprised he’s got no experience Just another case of just world fallacy. Plenty of misogynists out there with high n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:28 PM
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I doubt anyone has an issue with low n-count men looking for low n-count women. That'd be sensible. What's the issue of high n-count men looking for low n-count women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:26 PM
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Your entire point is an argument from authority. Can you justify what makes this guys point Red Pill dogma? It's like arguing that that JS Mill's ideas must be considered liberal dogmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:23 PM
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But I never even remotely suggested that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:04 AM
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Ah yes of course people would rather call themselves self ugly and stay lonely and depressed rather than be happy. Got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:03 AM
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I just looked up the first study you cited (BTW all of them seem behind pay walls). Quite interesting. It found that "prosocial" behaviour is correlated with increased likelyhood of finding relationships. But I don't think the study in any way shows that women aren't attracted to "bad boys" (since short term encounters and casual sex weren't subject of the study).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:02 AM
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Also I tried finding whatever research you are referring to, and all I can find is research indicating that disagreeable men earn more I mean your own first study literally says that they found that agreeableness was a negative factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 12:58 AM
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I mean sure, but then you never know anything. How do you know that your wife loves you? You do not. We trust our instincts and beliefs to the best of our knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 12:53 AM
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No, but my guesstimates have always been correct (once I confirmed with them indirectly). You're right, you can never know though. She may be a body count over 100 and there is no 100% method to tell. However, you can get a pretty good idea talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:50 PM
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No, it's always indirect if the conversation allows it. Otherwise, you can get a good estimate from other things (it's far easier than it seems once you get used to it and in doubt it's always higher than it seems at first glance).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:43 PM
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Well glad we agree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:39 PM
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No, women's fashion is far more diverse (both in attitudes and philosophy).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:02 PM
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What kind of stupid gotcha is that? Literally NO ONE is forcing you to have sex or prevent you from having sex. Men are free to judge women with high body count, that is OUR choice right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:00 PM
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This will be pretty short, i believe Women itself give "ugly Man" way more Chances then a Man in theyre Position would give to a ugly women. I don't think is true. Ugly men generally have do be usually exceptional in some other aspect to get there (e g. Financial or social status) and even then those are exceptions not the rule. But the real problem with your position is what you mean by judging? Are you saying people shouldn't have and voice their opinions? Because that would literally never ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:44 AM
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I mean they do though. We literally have scientific and peer reviewed studies on the subject showing that this is the case. I hate how, mainly men, are fixated on someone's body count. I hate how, mainly women, are fixated on trying to shame men for wanting low body count women (especially since it is something completely within your control).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:48 AM
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Porn addiction is the result of a high libido I don't think this is true, but let's suppose it is. Don't you see the faulty reasoning? Imagine a Venn diagram called high libido, then the Venn diagram porn addiction is going to be a proper subset of the former. We can conclude porn addicts have high libido but not the opposite. How is my last point tangential? OK, I see your point now. Yes, I would agree to this to some extent. However, the effects on pair bonding (at least from the data I have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:17 AM
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Your attempts to validate opinions you cannot justify are visible to anyone who cares to read. It's so obvious that you literally made stuff up to suit your narrative. If you want to engage in a discussion, don't get upset and start literally making stuff up because you're more interested in winning an argument rather than engaging with what people say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:09 AM
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Lol, mine is already pretty good, but it definitely feels like yours is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:01 AM
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I said what I said. Yes, but it seems that you're not very good at reading. OP even says he only wants the “slim pretty girl”. OP never said that he only wants that, you made it up. Then why is it wrong for us to only want to sleep with the hotties too? Why are women meant to “take one for the team” and have unpleasant sex with men we aren’t attracted to? Why are you getting upset and making up things I never even remotely suggested?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:58 AM
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Just look at the Nofap movement Not sure how that supports your idea. The NoFap movement is largely about porn addiction, not about wanting to fuck women. Also, it’s just common sense It's not. You saying it won't make it so. Because it is a sign she will not be faithful. Most women want a faithful partner, too. Do you think straight women like when their dude is looking at teenage instagram girls? This is completely tangential.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:55 AM
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An uncontrollable urge to sleep with a bunch of women may have been successful in the past, but nowadays it decreases the likelihood of a mutually fulfilling pair bond Hmm, I'm going to need a source for that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:45 AM
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There is a difference between being hot and not being unhealthily 400 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:42 AM
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Or maybe people like you should understand that useless truisms don't bring anything to the discussion? We are talking about trends in human behaviour not the individual preferences of a specific man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:41 PM
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if you're at least 5'8'' and social, you probably have a shot). So 40% of people don't have a shot?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:37 PM
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Tall woman can get laid yeah but most men don’t want them This is nonsense. Women's height is mostly irrelevant to her attractiveness, unless she's extremely tall (I'm talking like 3-4 standard deviations from the mean).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 10:26 PM
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Having a small penis is certainly a problem, but 99.99999% of people don't know if you have a small penis. It's not even remotely comparable to being short.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 10:23 PM
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Every study has potential methodological problems. Keyword: potential. But that's not your assertion: You're referencing a self-reported study where men are more likely to say they're single under the same circumstances women will say they're in relationships. You're claiming that the study is flawed because men are more likely to be claiming to be single, without providing a shred of evidence that this was the case. You didn't claim that it was a possible explanation, you claimed that it was th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 02:38 PM
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You putting the study in quotation marks is not going to invalidate its results. The study doesn't have a "problem". It seems that somehow you're struggling to accept its results (thus seeing what you want to see). Anyway, the causes behind the disparities shown in the studies could be multiple. It'd be interesting to see those investigated, but I personally don't think the definition of "being single" would be one of them. However, this isn't a "problem" with the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 02:07 PM
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Western women don't fuck short poor Asian men in Bali. To give you an idea the average height in Indonesia is like 5'4'',which basically excludes the overwhelming majority of men by the height standards of western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 12:26 PM
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What's the evidence for this? The study didn't have any evidence of that claim. It sounds me to me that you're seeing what you want to see, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 12:09 PM
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demonstrating that one has good self esteem and confidence This has nothing to do with being dominant. That's not what being dominant means. Not letting others take advantage, and taking charge of a situation, like stepping forward when a problem needs to be solved. That's also not what dominant means. That's just being assertive and confident. A dominant but not controlling person will still respect boundaries and have empathy for their partner. This may be a "good" point, but it's just a cop o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:43 PM
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What planet of the solar system do you live on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:04 PM
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Different types of women are attracted to different things. Why do people in this forum love to spout nonsensical truisms?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:02 PM
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the issue this post (and many men as a whole) have is that they don’t seem to be able to differentiate between the two This is because the difference is completely arbitrary. Like you said being dominant, but not controlling. However, there is no clear delineation between how women perceive that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:01 PM
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Thats not being yourself then is it? No. Understanding that it is best to not express your self in a certain way isn't that. "Yourself" isn't just being emotional, it's also making rational decisions. morally and health wise There is no moral case here. Imagine going to suffregetes saying "hey dont protest for the right to vote, what if it damages your chances of finding a man". The analogy is flawed. Right to vote has far more consequences, but not crying in front of your girlfriend doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 09:58 AM
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I agree that you should be yourself, but there is no need to do that in front of women. Fundamentally, men must learn that they will not be able to express themselves with women because that will be damaging to their romantic prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:52 AM
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The problem of false allegations is an extremally niche and small problem compared to the problem of rape. What's extremely niche and small? I mean in terms of numbers. All women need is an allegation to get men convicted of rape''. This is just blatantly false. In a court of law, I think I agree. But the mere false accusation can lead to a life of hell, even if the person is ultimately proved to be innocent. Especially if you're in an ultra progressive environment like universities. For every '…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:09 AM
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They do. But I’m talking a few years in. I mean the majority of relationships last a few years or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:29 AM
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Lol, hard to disagree with this. I always wonder how people can be hypocritical and not realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:41 PM
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However, people rarely stay with hot people with bad personalities People do exactly this all the time. The vast majority of romantic relationships are dysfunctional. Attractive people (especially men) get away with a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:36 PM
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Social psychology will touch upon this as it is focused on individuals in social contexts, and that’s the possible potential ”overlap” with sociology - yet unlike sociology it’s still an individual focus How does that contradict my point in any shape or form? I didn't say psychology is sociology. Social psychology is exactly what I'm talking about. This was just an example, but cognition, perception, memory, emotion, decision making - the underpinnings and consequences thereof. That’s not a subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:09 AM
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Psychology generally studies the individual unlike social sciences This is utterly false. Psychology also studies relationships between individuals and how an individual is influenced is influenced by such relationships. You are relegating psychology to a subset of what actually people do in the field. Whatever is mentioned in the post doesn’t sound like anything you’d learn if you study psychology, this sounds more like sociology. There is a huge overlap between what people call sociology and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:02 AM
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If OkCupid study revealed that men find 80% of women to be unattractive, it would be used ad Infinitum to prove men’s shallowness. Hard to disagree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:19 PM
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Psychology is a social science (at least a huge component of it is). Social science doesn't mean "studying society" (which is a completely meaningless statement btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:13 PM
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Hmm I just did. And again no one is telling you to be ashamed. Stop making stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:28 AM
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Sample size of 96 with a woman author, setting out to disprove a concept (hypergamy) that has been studied for decades in a myriad of peer reviewed scientific journal. Welcome to the world of modern social sciences. This study is a tiny dot in an ocean of trash like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:10 AM
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Do you have studies similar to OP to make your case? Because I seriously never seen anything remotely close. Furthermore, that still doesn't change my point. What you said about the post is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 03:05 AM
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Sure it's not hopeless, but it's certainly really bad. We are literally talking about halving the dating pool based on just height (imagine if you consider all other things). Not just that, it get worse and worse for every inch you take away. And again, this is just taking height into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:59 AM
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How does that work out though? Having 50% of the dating pool magically gone because a single immutabile physical feature is quite a bad deal for those men. In fact, I can't think of any other immutable physical feature that has this much influence on the attractiveness of a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:55 AM
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Yes, it seems that you didn't understand my point. Your comment refers to the point that 50% of men below 5'9'' are discarded for their height by 50% women. That comparison is fundamentally flawed. Because the comparison is using a single specific criteria for one group (height for men) and none for women. This doesn't really "work out" as you said in your other comment because height is just one physical attribute. Your dating pool shrinking by more than 50% based on height alone is quite bad a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:51 AM
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Stop projecting. No one ever said you should be ashamed of liking tall men. You literally made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:41 AM
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On this sub? 90% of women are virtue signalling and the other 10% can't write a paragraph without contradictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:40 AM
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This post is saying that before you’ve ever spoken to someone in your life, looks are what initially draws you to them. No that's not what it's saying. It saying that women automatically discard the majority of men based on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:38 AM
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How does that work out? Seriously what's the logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:34 AM
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This is beyond stupid. Do you understand that height is just one physical factor? Being 5'9'' or below doesn't mean that you're below average, it means you're below average in height.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:33 AM
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No one is fully consistent if you think men are you are lying to yourself. Anyone who is knowingly inconsistent with their views is a hypocrite. The fact that you're arguing otherwise is plain dumb. Don't even know what to say to you. It's like saying someone saying that robbery is bad during the day, but it's fine a night. It's utter nonsense. You can be equal and also do specific things to make your partner feel special if you don’t get that you probably won’t be a good partner Stop purposeful…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:33 PM
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Lol, that's beyond ridiculous. If you're not consistent on this issue you're a hypocrite plain and simple. I like equality and not NEEDING to rely on a man. I also like a man WANTING to “provide” by doing some traditionally male romance moves such as paying for a first date Which is exactly what I said: you want gender roles when they benefit you but not when they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 08:34 PM
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You conveniently ignored the main part of my argument or perhaps didn't get it. Let me repeat that: You can't advocate the abolition of gender roles in one aspect of society (career and finances) and then not do the same in your dating life. It's about consistency (which is what OP is arguing). It's fine to withhold gender roles in your dating life, but it's absolutely hypocritical if you don't do the same in other aspects of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:46 AM
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Men today have less of an opportunity to protect women or to provide for them but doing so on a first date is a great time to do that Using the exact same logic, women today have less of a need to be protected or to be provided for so they should pay for dates. You can't advocate the abolition of gender roles in one aspect of society (career and finances) and then not do the same in your dating life. What women "want" is not relevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:37 AM
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Aka I want to withhold gender roles only when they favour my needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:13 AM
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The problem with heightism is rather simple: it predominantly affects men only. Secondly, there is no social consciousness about height like there is for race and gender so people don't give a flying fuck about it. It is seen ok to shit on short men because there is no ideology that defends them and people feel that's fine to innately assume that being short is far worse than being tall as a guy. Height didn't play a role in the historical shape up of modern societies (not in an explicit sense) …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:47 AM
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Forcefully being sent off to die in a war. No jokes, it's seriously astonishing how women and feminists completely ignores this problem given the current climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:18 AM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:17 AM
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Ngl, this is a seriously perfect example of cognitive dissonance. It shows how so many women are driven by conformism and ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:11 AM
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Yes. Though you don't need to prove that point because I am not disagreeing with you about what people think attractive men are. I'm agreeing with you. OK that's fine, but this is certainly not the case for the majority of the women in this sub. Literally everyday, people here debate that attraction is personal, different people are attracted to different features, women aren't a monolith, etc... Arguments of this sort get continuously thrown around but virtue signalling people to deny the thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:06 AM
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I'm not talking about my personal preferences. Were you? No, I'm talking about the fact that you replace the words tall and whitr with hot. This literally proves my point that is what people think attractive men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:46 PM
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You’re absolutely right… both lil wayne and Rick Ross get magnitudes more women than small dick energy tate does. You delusion is out of this world lol. You sound like a caricature of what Tate thinks of women. Also you seem weirdly obsessed with his penis, which seems to bother you a lot apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:44 PM
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So you're racist? Nice to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:44 PM
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Go tell that to lil Wayne or Rick Ross that it’s height and race that matters and that women flock to them because they’re white and tall Lil Wayne and Rick Ross are no where near Andrew Tate when it comes to attraction to women. If you take their away fame, Andrew Tate is 1000% far more attractive to women than Lil Wayne. If you think otherwise, you must be delusional on a different level. Then when you’re done go tell that to the kpop artists as well that women are only into them because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:32 PM
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I'll let you in on a little secret; rich (and famous) women have a much easier time attracting men than regular women. You have to compare rich women with rich men and the difference between them is huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:57 AM
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Read my comment again because it seems that you haven't bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:56 AM
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Height and race have little to do with it. Height and race have absolutely to do with it. This constant stupidity and delusional thinking is annoying. Height and race are literally linked to status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:55 AM
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You have to live under a rock to not realize being hot and rich gets you dates? It seems that many people do because they want an idealistic version of facts that don't exist. Also it's funny how I specifically mention tall and white and people manage to turn that part into "hot", which basically is proving my point further.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:54 AM
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There's no one who denies that rich famous people can get away with things regular people can't . It's not about getting away with things. That's a separate point. The point is that male celebrities are a perfect example of that status, height, race and income are huge factors when it comes to attraction to women. It's this specific aspect that is constantly and rather stupidly challenged by blue pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:46 AM
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Why do you guys insist on taking anomalies you see on the internet and saying it's representative of real life. He's not an anamoly in the sense you're talking about. Anyone who is rich, high status tall and white will have an incredibly easier time with women compared to those who aren't. This is a fact. This is despite possibly being a horrible person. Now, yes he's an anomaly in the sense that he's a celebrity and thus people shouldn't try to become him. Also I never said personality didn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:33 AM
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Whatever people think of him, he's living proof that to fuck women being tall, rich and white is far more important than any blue pill ideological points about personality, being nice, etc... You may be the shittiest person on earth and a combination of those will still grant you success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:11 AM
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You're confusing cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:37 AM
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The majority have tried it a couple of times and not liked it as a maximum I didn't say the majority had tried it a couple of times. You literally said that the majority of have tried it a couple of times. I quoted you literally. What the fuck are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:06 AM
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The fundamental point is that you're statement is a truism that is completely helpless. For most men, that's not why they're unsuccessful. They're unsuccessful because women don't find them physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:31 PM
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The majority have tried it a couple of times and not liked it as a maximum. Most women haven't had casual sex with a bad boy in their lives, or any significant amount of casual sex for that matter Make up your mind. Don't change your statements to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:29 PM
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As a woman, I believe one of the most important ways to have success with women is treating them like they’re people, and not as if they’re a prize to be obtained. And this is why you should never take dating advice from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:35 PM
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Most women haven't had casual sex with a bad boy in their lives, or any significant amount of casual sex for that matter Yeah, no. Most young women today have at some point engaged in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:34 PM
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They expect women to help them What? Who's asking for women's help?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:33 PM
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Also, by this logic men who play Call of Duty secretly want to be drafted Men who play video games don't fantasise about killing people because they're playing cod (discounting the very important fact that video games always are a scenario of "help good guys kill bad guys").
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:10 PM
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I guess I don’t particularly care if it’s fallacious, because it’s still true for everyone What??? How can something fallacious be true? Please grab a dictionary. Just like how dating women and dating children aren’t, just because you can do both doesn’t mean the same line of logic applies to both situations because context matters Yes, it does. In fact the context here is literally the same (modulo the content of the reading). Both scenarios involve reading about fiction depicting some activiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:54 PM
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If we all have to be condemned by the bad things the characters we like do, none of us make it out of here. Nice strawman. This is not the point. The point is that if, as you said, the actions of fictional characters are disgusting then how can they be aroused by/like them? What would you engage in something that you think is disgusting? It's like imagine if I said that I like to read particular books that depicts rapist or pedophiles and then say we'll yeah but that's fiction so it doesn't matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 06:40 PM
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Y’all should spend some time in the romance novel sub where they talks constantly about how disgusting they would perceive these men in real life and how their happy marriages are nothing like the characters they read about. E Because they're virtue signalling and dislike the fact that they don't want to admit that they're attracted to those kind of men. Grow up, fiction is not real life and women sure as hell know that. If you don't find the behaviour of a fictional character or appealing then …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:54 PM
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You’re confused because the study also said About one-in-five partnered adults ages 18 to 29 (21%) say they met their partner online. No, I'm not confused about this. I'm purposefully talking about this figure, which shows that in the most active period of dating 1/5 couples met online. This is a huge number. It literally means on average if you look at any 5 couples in that age range you'll find at least one who met online. Why are you ignoring this??? Obviously older people are less likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:20 PM
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I'm struggling to understand what any of what you just said prove the case that the majority of men are looking for casual sex online. In fact what is the connection between that (which is what I challenged and what you're defending) between women being more likely to feel negatively about sexual interaction and casual sex? Do you have any evidence that there is difference between women reporting the same offline? Not just that. You literally posted a study where 1/5 couples meet online, which a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:53 PM
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People see each other a sexual commodities not human beings. Sure. Women are much more likely than men to say they have been pressured for sex (42% vs. 19%) or have been touched in a way that made them feel uncomfortable (35% vs. 9%) while dating. I failed to see the relevance here. Casual sex has nothing to do with sexual assault. In fact the majority of sexual crimes against women are committed by people they know very well, not strangers. Also, women in general are more likely to feel that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:17 AM
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There’s also the fact that even if he’s interested in a relationship if it’s not sexual right away (by the third date) he’s gone, he can easily just keep swiping and move onto the next woman. I Again this is a huge generalisation with no basis. One could argue that some men do only want casual sex, but to make a case for the majority, you'd really have to show actual data. I very much doubt this is true, because my experience says the complete opposite. I did provide evidence. Among those who me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:37 PM
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Well I don’t think there’s enough evidence to support the fact that OLD is the “central hub” for finding a partner. Seeing as only 21% of young couples have met online How can use only and 21% in the same sentence? What other single avenue has the effect? If 1/5 of people meet online you can't just argue that it's only for casual sex, that's ridiculous imo. The majority of men on dating apps are only looking for a hookup. That is why I do not use them and that is why there is such a severe gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:59 PM
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That study is completely false Why is it completely false? Because it doesn't fit your narrative lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:39 PM
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Online dating doesn't happen only through a dating app. Instagram and Facebook are places where couples meet and they are massively more popular than any dating app. That doesn’t disprove my point. It’s possible but you have to sort through a lot of shit first. It’s a long arduous process It does. How can the place where people look for casual sex only as you put it, then it wouldn't make sense for this places to be the central hub to meet their long term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:37 PM
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There's no secret code that drug dealers, gangsters, or pro-athletes know that gets panties off women. It's status and the knowledge they're living a life that's dangerous as fuck (scarcity rising) that makes them attracted to you. They're just along for the show. This is very true but I don't think you're idea that women eventually realising what they want is correct. I think what happens is that they still want these guys with high status but eventually become no longer attractive enough for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:05 PM
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All the places you listed are infested with men that only want casual sex. Why do people keep believing this nonsense? For example, online dating is the most common way of finding partners https://news.stanford.edu/2019/08/21/online-dating-popular-way-u-s-couples-meet/.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:55 PM
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But you can still fuck up your life, if you get hooked on drugs and sometimes alcohol. The difference is that you easily recover because you can afford all kinds of therapies, medical assistance that the overwhelming majority of people don't have access to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:50 PM
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I seriously know zero below average guys that would be considered "hot" by any of my girl friends. I'm not saying that there can't be women who won't find you attractive, but even then you're likely to be outside of what they consider "ideal". Height is probably one of the biggest discriminatory factors when women rate the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:48 PM
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we're talking about most couples not being some TV show wonder match. Hmm, no we aren't. Not even sure what exactly that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:10 PM
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How many people do you know that have married their high-school sweetheart? You can't possibly argue that's the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:25 AM
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They aren't even close to Limb lengthening surgery. Do you even know what that is? It costs near 6 figures. They literally break your legs and pull your bones apart. You literally cannot walk or stand up properly for 6 months. And after that there is a long recover period. And your legs will never be the same so any kind of intense physical activity will endanger your legs for the entirety of your life. How the fuck is that even remotely comparable to ordinary cosmetic surgeries???
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:23 AM
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Lol, yeah. Not sure how people come up with these dumb takes. And btw, Newton was a beast. He didn't just invent calculus, but his contribution to physics is unmatched by anyone else in the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:19 AM
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Congrats you're an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:14 AM
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For something serious they do. This is true, but even then other things like looks and money play a bigger factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:11 AM
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I can guarantee you that an internet shut in whiteknight would think I’m an asshole According to what logic? I've literally seen plenty of blatantly racists and mysoginists have plenty of success with women. When you're tall and classically handsome, you can be an awful guy and still get laid super easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:08 AM
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There aren't ready examples of several men who are respected and admired despite obviously not being ladies men? That is a tiny minority of men. In a population of 3.5 billion men, there could be a million of people fitting that criteria. But that still wouldn't prove your case, because you're using a minority to make a generalisation. You're confusing "exceptions don't make the rule" with "exaggerated counter-example." I'm not the one that gave the counterexample. You brought Isaac Newton as if…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:34 PM
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Here, it seems like you forgot what you said. It seems like you wish you said something other than what you said. Unfortunately, as noted, you said what you said. Because he's making a general statement. Exceptions don't make the rule. You're being purposefully dense and ignoring this. It's like someone saying that humans have two hands and you replying that's not true because there is a tiny minority of people who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:20 PM
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No it doesn't. Average men can't override the fact that they aren't one of the most influential figures in history. They play by completely different rules. Not sure why you're struggling to understanding such basic claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:43 PM
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Height is a prerequisite for women to be considered "hot" by most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:41 PM
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it wouldn't matter if he was the greatest physicist of all time. Yes, it would. Do you understand what kind of status entails being the greatest physicist of all time? And I repeat: Isaac Newton was a virgin by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:16 PM
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Zac Efron is a Chad, despite only being 5’8. He's not. I can 100% bet you that half of women would reject a guy as good looking as Effron based on his height alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:32 PM
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who's got a muscular build with little to no actual training. Yeah, ok this is delusional. You have to take diet and training semi seriously to have a muscular build.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:28 PM
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Imo, 90% of the time a woman is ugly is because she is overweight, which is something you can control and change fairly easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:27 PM
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Yeah bro, that's why the virgin Isaac Newton is ridiculed and looked down upon with disgust by history. You can't compare the average person to arguably the greatest physicist of all time. And Isaac Newton was a virgin by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:25 PM
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Have not met a single man IRL or online who genuinely did any of these Limb lengthening surgery costs a fortune and make you disabled for a year. Any cosmetic surgery that women go through is a piece of cake in comparison. That's why. If it was accessibile and as painful as a boob job, plenty of men would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:22 PM
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So, shallow (will look young for a longer time) and creepy (more impressionable) How does that make any sense lol? By that logic, everyone is shallow because they look for people they're attracted to. That's why men want younger women. And what logical connective have you used to get from "impressionable" - > "creepy"???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:47 AM
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I think 30+ y/o men specifically interested in the 18-21 range are shallow and creepy Why is it shallow? Why is it creepy? Because you said so, lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:14 AM
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The term incel has completely lost its meaning. Liberals and feminists basically use the term for anyone who disagrees with them and criticise their worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:13 AM
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Yes, that's one part of it. The other is that the majority of people don't actually care about ethics, they just "go with the flow".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:02 PM
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That doesn't answer my question. Should men settle or not for women they don't find attractive? You can't say no and then proceed with What they do with this information is up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:49 PM
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Now, men demand actual sexual attraction and initiative from women and get bitter when women's preferences are revealed to be that which they've always been. So basically men should settle with women that aren't attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:32 PM
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I think the bigger problem is the ambiguity that this discussion has. The "liberal" framework that people use to judge age differences has literally no way of precisely establishing why this is moral/immoral in the first place. The central idea is always revolved around the idea that age gaps create an imbalance of power, but that's just very loose point (like how exactly do we establish it, you can't judge the maturity of a person solely based on age). Not just that, a 19 years old millionaire …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:28 PM
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Yes, you're right. Where did you get the number fo overweight between 18-25?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:33 AM
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That's not evidence for the claim about "6ft" thing. My point is that the threshold should have been lower, not that height doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:31 AM
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Sure but that severely undermines your point. According to the CDC, 20% of 18-24 are overweight. Not sure why the number for college students is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:29 AM
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Please read what I said again. The study doesn't make that claim whatsoever (that taller people are more healthy).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:00 PM
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I feel you guys are misunderstanding what I said. No, I'm not but your claim is unfounded. Can you please show me evidence that taller people are more healthy? The study you've mentioned only shows that nutrition (likely only at early age) is correlated with height. It does not show that being taller makes you healthier. To prove your claim, what you would have to show is given a uniform sample size in one country shorter people are less healthy than taller people. In fact, there are literally s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:58 PM
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Hmm yes and do you not realise that there could be a massive difference between the average 22 years old and the average 38 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:54 PM
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Obesity statistics don't take into account age. The number of obese people in their 20s is much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:31 PM
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I think you're projecting your own insecurities onto what "I see you as a friend means". Lol, classic PPD woman calling anyone who disagrees with them insecure. It's astonishing that women love throwing random insults like that when a man offers a viewpoint they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:09 PM
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Moving forward ≠ being friends. Moving forward means accept the rejection and do what's the best for you. So instead of being mature about things men should just take things personally First of all, it's deeply personal. A woman friend zoning is a judgement on your looks. This will inevitably affect the relationship no matter what you think. The mature thing to do is to understand that and decide to walk away from that situation (for both parties).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:00 AM
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Height (like intelligence) is a sign that you are healthy and have a good nutritional status Hmm a citation is needed for this one. What health advantages does being tall bring?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:54 AM
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This is factually incorrect. For example, there have been fluctuations in average height during pre and post medieval Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:51 AM
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Yes, the "six foot+" thing had been around since at least the 50s. Before than it was probably whatever was tall back then. Hmm what's the evidence here? Because the average in the 50s was significantly lower than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:50 AM
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Toxic,annoying behavior is just as obnoxious and repugnant on stereotypically attractive men. Nope, definitely not to the same extent. Attractive men can get away with a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:48 AM
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I’m saying that men take being friend zoned as insult and when the opportunity to make female friends come up they get all defensive and throw it away. It may not be an insult, but it's women's way of saying that they find you unattractive. It's a negative judgement (primarily concerning your looks).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:45 AM
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opinionated and question things. What's the evidence for this? I would argue that women in today's educational system are primarily driven by conformism and hardly ever have introspection to criticise the philosophies they espouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:34 AM
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Yep, that's why I think you should always do coffee dates or something like a walk in the park until you're quite serious. This expectation of paying for everything is so frustrating, especially since these women do not want to adhere to traditional gender roles in pretty much every other part of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:47 PM
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Maybe, but it doesn't matter. Promiscuity, especially in women, have long lasting effects on how they view intimacy and relationships. People, especially men, should carefully judge this aspect in their potential wives and husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:37 PM
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Lol, it's the privilege of being a woman. They're so used to this that so many of them take it for granted. Even when they offer to split, many times they have a negative reaction if you accept their offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:35 PM
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Lol, the term hypergamy literally originated from academic theories in the social sciences based on empirical observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:40 PM
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While some people are would call this behaviour unethical, I would say that it’s unethical to expect men to have someone significantly more attractive than to settle and pretend that looks don’t matter. The non-existence of any logic in this sentence is astonishing. Even supposing the veracity of the second part how the fuck does something being unethical makes another unethical action ethical? There is literally no logical connective between these two thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:22 PM
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Op literally posted a study which shows that 70% of women on Bumble had their height minimum set to 6'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:41 PM
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Not sure what planet you're from, but women are very vocal about height and wanting tall guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:25 PM
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Also, I've seen women are very sneaky about it too. They'll this in a way like: men don't approach me because of their insecurities (and note that unlike women, men care about height far far less). At the same time you hear stuff like: tall men make me feel feminine, protected and small (as if that's not being insecure lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:21 PM
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Yep, the height thing is so true. Even the "enlightened" women on Reddit use this argument. They call men insecure for pretty much every dating criteria they have, but when women do the same thing they suddenly become "preferences".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:49 PM
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Lol, so basically it's always men's fault, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:32 PM
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Not sure why terminology matters here. Not everyone and everything needs to be categorised.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:31 PM
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A fleshlight can give you the feeling. No sex toy in existence today can you give the same pleasure as having sex with a real woman. The pleasure of sex isn't simply a mechanical act, things like body involvement, skin to skin contact and the very dynamic of being naked with another person can't be simulated (yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:58 PM
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You're telling me about makeup as someone who actually knows quite a bit about it and what it can do, I didn't tell you about make up, I told how people look differently with make up on and off. It's something I've notice in my life plenty of times. Your entire point is: "you aren't able to judge people's appearance because you don't know about make up". But I don't need to be able to put make up on or know about beauty products to do this. Yes, I won't be able to what specific products they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:52 AM
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You wouldn't know how to put it on if I gave some to you. Sure, I wouldn't. But how does that make me unable to distinguish between people who look very different with make up on and off? I literally seen this with close friend and family members. What kind of expertise do I need to be able to comment if people look different with make up on? I'm not even sure if you're trolling. And yet you're acting like an expert who knows the exact effects it makes. Another strawman, I didn't claim that I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:36 AM
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Look, I get you just don't know how makeup works. So don't pretend you do. This is pure stupidity. What is there to understand about make up? It's literally a bunch of chemical powder sticked on your face. There's nothing to understand. Stop acting like it's physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:25 AM
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Sure, exception exist. But they are exceptions for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:46 PM
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More likely they already knew each other and he asked her out. Yes, indeed (although I do have a friend who randomly approached his gf on the tube). Most of the people I know either met like that or online. And my point still stands: it's always the guys that ask the women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:44 PM
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Pretty every single person I know has met because the guy asked the girl out. Only in Reddit, you see women arguing this point lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:40 PM
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No you don't lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:34 PM
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Not really, in fact my social circles have changed over the years a lot and I've lived in three different countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:33 PM
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If you're unrecognisable without it, then you look bad with. What kind of contrived logic is this? Doesn't make any sense whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:32 PM
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Because realistically, unless you have the kind of makeup that people use in films, it won't change how you look. Yes, no lol. Where I live, women wear tonnes of makeup. So much that they're almost unrecognisable without.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:14 PM
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I offer to pay everytime. So do all my girl friends. And I've asked out men quite a few times. Your friends aren't the majority of women out there. I'm not even sure you're being serious. Like are you actually trying to make the argument that when it comes to taking the initiative and approaching the other gender things are 50/50? That's beyond ridiculous tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:12 PM
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Nice tactic. Yes, I have and never I've heard that they aren't attracted to strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:05 PM
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Especially if I asked him, I will pay 100%. This hardly ever happens. You're an exception. Most women never ask men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:04 PM
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People couldn't even tell when I stopped wearing it. How does that prove your point? No one said this is true for every woman. Many women look drastically different with makeup some way worse and many way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:03 PM
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I will happily accept and feel flattered and then offer to pay the tip or buy after dinner drinks or dessert or something. So men, lol. The real question is why don't women ever offer to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:48 PM
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Okay, you probably don't know anything about makeup. Sorry but this is BS. I've seen women look completely different with and without makeup. You don't need to be an expert on makeup to notice this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:46 PM
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They say that strangers on the street don't stand out to them, Where do women say this? PPD women don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:45 PM
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This is complete BS. Women aren't told anything (maybe you have been told by your family members but this very uncommon). Women don't approach men because they don't need to. Why approach men when you can avoid rejection and still find partners? The majority of women don't need to think about approaching men and meeting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:42 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:31 PM
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It's not. You're thinking that murders happen because someone just flip a switch in their head and lose control. Individuals who murder and commit wrongdoings have psychological and predispositions to completely have different moral standards. Many murder in a calculating and methodically because murder aligns with their view of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:20 AM
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Causation is strong association. In fact, scientifically there is no such thing as a causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:54 PM
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You could make the same argument for ethnic groups. It doesn't mean anything. Men being more violent doesn't mean they're more emotional. There are plenty of other ways of being emotional other than expressing violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:52 PM
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Yes, it is. It is fundamentally immoral. However, the reason question is the degree to which it is. I'm not sure if I would qualify it as a serious issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:49 PM
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Most women I've met don't want to be short. In fact most of them are either OK with height or want to be taller. Height is really not a big deal to men at all (well unless you're like above 6', in that case yes, it might be a serious hindrance). Most tall women want to date taller men though and that's why their options are very limited. In terms of attractiveness, I would say the most important thing for women is to be a healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:41 PM
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Yeah, no. It's true that some men won't date taller women. But the number of men who won't date taller women << number of women who won't date shorter men. Height is never really a thought when most men think about what makes a woman attractive (unless she is either very short or very tall).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:37 PM
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How is your argument any better when you base it on anecdotal experience? I'm 5'10 in NYC and I still have success, I'm the 2nd tallest dude in my friend group and no one is hurting. Where did you see me saying that being 5'10'' means no success? I simply stated that there so many women there who think 85% of men aren't good enough for them, I never see these kind of crazy requirements from men. Most of the time, it's dudes that are insecure and reek of desperation and not their height. Yes, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:48 AM
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Ok, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:47 AM
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This is just another bad faith argument. Yes, women do not literally go around talking in percentages. No one does that. But I've met many women with the 6' requirement in real life, which implies 85% are men are not attractive to them. You obviously know that this is what I meant but are purposefully using bad faith and childish tactics to suit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:38 AM
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I wonder why people like you keep arguing in bad faith. Like seriously if you have already made up your mind and don't want to engage, then why bother at all? This sort of thinking is beyond stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:21 AM
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Never heard this in my life. What the fuck is even a "thigh-gap"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:05 AM
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Ok great, nice bad faith argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:00 AM
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Online and offline both (although yeah online is way more common). I literally have girl friends with these kind of crazy requirements. My ex housemate literally refused to date anyone below 6'2'' (and she even showed me her Bumble with the height filter). Funny thing is that is often these women are even short themselves, but somehow feel the need to require a man a foot taller than them. Also most tall girls (5'9''+) automatically discard guys who aren't at least few inches taller than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:51 PM
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You never heard a version of "6' and up only"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:39 PM
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Never in my life I've heard a man saying that they would never date 85% of women because of an immutable physical feature. I can't even recall the number of times I've heard this from women. Men like beautiful women but they are way less picky than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:16 PM
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They do not have to love their country We literally have a war right now where men are being forced to die lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:09 PM
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And having more options means you aren't dazzled into cheating whenever one comes by to up your self-esteem Men don't cheat because of the lack of self esteem, maybe women do that. Men cheat because they're horny that's all. Look, you think it's obvious one way, but others think it's obvious another way, and everyone's just guessing. It's not guessing. We have tonnes of examples of celebrities who cheat and even publicly admit and talk about their lifestyle. If you ever hang around college level…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:53 PM
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Men, in general, cheat all the time. Nowhere near the amount that male celebrities do. It just gets publicised when a celebrity does No, male celebrities have far far more options that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:44 PM
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It's defined by virtue of how people use the word (that's how OP is using it).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:39 PM
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Ah yes, the usual I'm right because I said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:39 PM
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Love how you need to make shit up to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:37 PM
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And my argument is that they shouldn’t expect it. This is pure stupidity. Again, it's like expecting to go to a crime filled are and expecting to not be robbed/attacked. It's pure stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:37 PM
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So, you now completely went on a tangent without bothering to engage with the point I just made. Nothing you said is any way contradictory to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:35 PM
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Ever heard of passive aggression? Similar concept. It's not a similar concept at all. Not just that, passive aggression is a form of deceit that people use. The word "passive" in the phrase is used to describe that deceit. That has nothing to do with how she used the word. It seems that you're doing mental gymnastics to justify the incorrect use of her language.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:32 PM
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Which men cheat more is an open question. Lol, again this can only be true if women are dumb and stupid. Male celebrities cheat all the time and women, despite knowing this get with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:47 PM
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Fucking hell I literally just cited the study in my previous comment. I'm going to stop here because you're not even bothering to read what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:45 PM
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It could be argued that having more opportunity to have casual sex gives someone more self-control rather than jumping on the first chance they get No this can't be really be argued. The majority of men with options exercise them. Celebrities break up after cheating too and can't usually have their cake and eat it. The opposite happens way more often. Male celebrities cheat all the time and never really suffer the consequences (other than divorce money cases). I think that celebrities have highe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:13 PM
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If they knew one would cheat and one wouldn't, I absolutely believe they would Sorry but that's delusional. Women know perfectly well that these guys cheat all the time and still choose to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:07 PM
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Stating what they do and if a woman should just accept that because she’s privileged enough to marry a celebrity.. no.. no one should accept that This isn't the point. The point is: women should expect be cheated because they're dating celebrities. You're still conflating the should and the is. This isn't an argument about ethics. It's not that women should put up with or not. It's like saying that if you go to a crime filled area with a shiny gold chain around your neck and then expect to not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:01 PM
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HVM are not celebrities anyway.. what gives a man value is integrity and righteousness. Again you can't simply change definition of the word to suit your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:41 PM
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This only applies to average guys. A guy like Drake would clean up in any place in the world regardless. Women know what these guys are like and they still choose be with them. No way most women will the average virgin Joe over the NBA player, even if they know this guy cheated before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:40 PM
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Do you seriously think that a male athlete/celebrity is "rare" in terms of what women want? Do you seriously believe that if you line up 1000 women chosen at random and they had to choose between an NBA player and the average Joe, most women would choose the average man? You have to be seriously delusional to think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:29 AM
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This is completely irrelevant. The conversation isn't about ethics. OP's point is not that cheating is moral, his point is that HVM have tonnes of options because they are attractive to tonnes of women (thousand times more than an average man). He's talking about what people do, not what they should do. Those are very separate points.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:25 AM
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But most women would consider disloyalty to be an extremely low value trait I mean athletes and celebrities are flooded with attention from tonnes of women and they cheat all the fucking time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:40 AM
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Men don't cheat because the are HV or anything. They cheat because they get the chance to. Let's assume this is correct. OP's point still stands. HVM have unlimited options for cheating and LVM have very few options for cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:39 AM
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Weight is mostly genetic just like a man’s dating success. This is so fucking dumb and pure BS. Weight is not genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:13 AM
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It is getting popular, yes, but for the 1 guy thinking about these things you will always have the 9 only watching TV and just consuming and accepting the mainstream programming. That's because feminists fundamentally control the various tech companies and academia. This will take a few generations to change (if it changes at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:09 AM
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When you say passive you’re talking about things done behind the scenes This doesn't make any sense. If you do something, you're not passive. Also what things do women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:05 AM
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A lot of the current narrative in media is that men's problems don't matter anywhere near as much as women's problems. The problem is that this narrative is pushed through academia. Until that changes, things won't get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:39 AM
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Lol, classic tactic when you can't admit you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:38 AM
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What? Passive effort isn't a thing. All effort requires being active.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:25 AM
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Do you understand that the CDC and data from actual physicians is more trustworthy for this info than solitary Redditors who have read a few articles on muscle mass and BMI? Oh gosh, why are you being so thick? Stop using arguments from authority. No one here claimed that Redditors are more trustworthy. The point is that you cannot simply attest the validity of data because of the title of those who published. It's like tomorrow a physicist comes up with a theory of quantum gravity and then when…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:16 AM
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It's very hard to conclude what will happen. However, like you said violence could become a major issue and one that will be very hard to get under control. Society need young to have hope and purpose, that inevitably involves their romantic life, so this isn't sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:58 AM
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Do you understand that the validity of a scientific study cannot be established with arguments from authority? If we have no analysis of the methodology that the doctors used then your claim is nonsensical. You can't simply pretend otherwise because "doctors know best".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:52 AM
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I think was inevitable. As much as blue pillers and women don't like this, there is a serious issue that specifically affects men's wellbeing and dating life. Whether the red pill movement is the correct solution can be debated, but the continuous dismissal of men's problem and gaslighting them onto "mysoginy and entitlement" had a completely opposite effect than what the media and feminists wanted. Gender issues are so polarised today and this will have very serious consequences in the coming d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:48 AM
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Women can't initiate or move things forward, especially physically, or they will lose all respect Sorry but this is pure BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:42 AM
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It seems to me you are only sensitive and responsive to strongly masculine courting rituals being done toward you; and are either unaware, insensitive, or disinterested in more passive/feminine courting and only able to read/pick-up grand gestures Lol, what kind of nonsense is this? OP is saying women are passive and you're saying women are passive, but apparently he is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:41 AM
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Sorry but But the standard of modern medicine. doesn't cut it. Unless they specifically accounted for the natural difference in BMI between men and women, then you can't really ignore this point. You can't just assume that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:38 AM
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Have you bothered to read what I said? Is this is the case, then there is 1 woman for every 5 men. According to your own logic, we should not observe a normal distribution amongst men because the data should reflect the opposite of what we see in women: most men should rate most women to be very attractive. We don't see this because your hypothesis is false. And I repeat, since you purposefully ignored this point, we have studies like the one I've cited above that show that the 80/20 rule still …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:35 AM
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What metric did they use to determine that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:33 AM
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Not men have naturally a higher density than women due to bone structure and anatomical differences. So the number of men considered "fat" is lower if one accounts for these differences. Because a healthy BMI for men and women is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:38 PM
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Especially in America, most men are either weak and scrawny, skinnyfat, or just plain fat. Most American women are like that. And about skinnyfat, I would argue the overwhelming majority of women are skinnyfat or fat. Women's ideal body require way less training then men's equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:36 PM
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Here's an article that talks about a study on speed dating (so not online) in line with 80/20 rule. From the article: That means that for every offer a woman makes, she has roughly a 50-50 chance that the man will want to see her again too. But for every offer a man makes, he only has a one in five chance that the desire to meet again is reciprocated. Interestingly, the researchers observed that there might be a small effect in women's pickiness when they are made to be pursuers rather than choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:30 PM
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No there is literally no reason for that to happen. In fact, you'd also have to explain the why the distribution of ratings steers towards 100th percentile and not the other way around. Also, you'd also have to explain why the men's rating follow the *expected* normal distribution. Additionally, we have data of irl dating that confirms that women's attitude that doesn't change from the 80/20 distribution observed. For example, look at the study mentioned in this article which show that same beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:25 PM
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That doesn't mean anything. The problem here is the distribution not the volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:19 PM
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The problem with this argument is that women send way fewer messages than men do. So isn't really a convincing argument against the imbalance in gender dynamics. Not just that, how should men feel about: I think you're ugly but I'm getting in touch with you because I wanna play it safe? Also here is a study conducted for in real life dating (speed dating), which shows that women are about 2.5 pickier than men (women chose about 20% of men for a second date and men chose about 50% of women for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:03 AM
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This cannot be extrapolated as population level attraction between genders. It certainly can, unless one has a very good reason to believe that the women on OkCupid are extremely picky for some factor that isn't present amongst the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:12 AM
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it also says women are still messaging men they consider to be in that below average range The data also shows that women send way fewer messages than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:10 AM
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72% of young men and 82% of young women have had sex in the past year Sure, that's a little gap, That's not a little gap. It means that the number of sexless men is 40% higher than the number of sexless women. And all of those sexless women are so by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:52 PM
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10% is actually a pretty significant gap on large population aggregates like this. Considering the difference in sex drive between men and women, that's a HUGE gap. Men want sex way more and yet are still having it less than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:19 PM
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I'm 20 and stumbled on here today, I assure you we are not lying. I never said the women here are lying. However, women on PPD are the furthest thing from being representative of average women. Same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:46 AM
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I thought you were going to explain how men are not inferior women when it comes to successfully making a woman cum? Women make men cum in great success. Women make women cum with almost as good success. But y'know, men are easier to cum so they have that extra ~5%. When you going to explain how superior men are to women at making women cum? Fucking hell, I can't believe how idiotic this is. Do you understand that this doesn't any way disprove: men, due to their biological anatomy, have an easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:43 AM
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So women get women off just fine, get themselves off just fine, and even get the "biologically easy to get off" men just fine. Please explain how men are not inferior women when it comes to successfully making a woman orgasm. Because you have some cognitive difficulties. Women getting off on their doesn't mean shit. This is because they could be taking longer and put more effort in to please themselves comparing to men who do the same for themselves. Say if the average men takes 30 seconds to or…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:54 PM
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You basically said women of PPD do not represent how average women think regarding this topic so she hit you back with a rhetorical question. So again she tried to call my "hypocrisy" by the using a statement that she thought I agreed with. Otherwise, how can you think she "hit me back"? If I don't even hold that view, how can she do this? What exactly is she calling out? The mental gymnastics you're doing to justify this is astonishing BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:27 PM
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What kind of stupid point is this? Why would they reply to MY comment that specifically made no mention of men on PPD? They clearly were trying to say that I hold this "hypocritical" idea and were calling me out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:06 PM
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So you're saying that you are... inferior to women? That women know how to get themselves off quite successfully, but not with men? What kind of stupid gotcha tactic is this? Every single individual person knows their own body best. I can make myself faster and better than any other person could do. Am I better at sex than everyone else? You see how dumb that logic is? Ah. So you're agreeing with me. There's a serious issue with men not giving their female partner(s) orgasms because they refuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:59 PM
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They never said YOU, to begin with. They replied to MY comment, clearly implying that I hold this belief as an attempt to discredit what I said. It's ridiculous that you're trying to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:54 PM
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I brought that up because you’re saying that because I’m on ppd what I said doesn’t matter But how does that change the fact that you made something up to suit your narrative (whether you're right about that is a separate topic)? Also where is this data that you're talking about? I don't think marriage statistics are enough to back your claim ( like at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:37 PM
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I can also orgasm within seconds. Saying it's too hard to get your partner to orgasm is a bad look. Do you seriously want to argue that women on average need the same amount of stimuli to orgasm? Your personal experience is irrelevant here. Men cum way faster than women, this is a biological fact. Men literally have such an easier time orgasming, that a huge portion suffer from premature ejaculation. The fact that you're trying to argue against this us beyond belief. Women get off 95% of the tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:27 PM
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No I’m not making anything up. Bro, you literally just did. You just claimed I said something I never mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:22 PM
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No, where did I say that? Where the hell did I use tha argument: because PPD men say so? It seems like you love make up shit to push your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:18 PM
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Here men go. Refusing to accept it. Young women are telling you. Where? Where are these young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:11 PM
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The implication that men shouldn’t be insecure is pretty patriarchy-tier to begin with. Lol, yeah. It's crazy how so many women use the same argument. They always attack men for being insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:08 PM
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This is a stupid argument. It completely ignores the biological differences between men and women. Men orgasm more because it is way easier for men to reach ejaculation. A man can literally cum within seconds if he wants to. Women's bodies aren't built this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:06 PM
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And never in your life you've come across men who talk about what I described? If no we seriously must be living in completely different worlds then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:11 PM
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I think the definition of fair being used here is to describe a situation where the outcome of people's lives is largely determined by things outside their control. s it “unfair” that an engineer works for a boss whose not an engineer? When they interviewed for the job and were told, “we’re looking for someone with 5 years experience as a lead engineer” would it make sense for them to whine, “but you don’t have any experience as a lead engineer!” Sorry, but this is a really bad example. A better…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:20 PM
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it is made up. It is not. Have you ever played any sports or done any kind of masculine activity in predominantly male space? Because if you have, it'd be shocking to me that you haven't heard men expressing the exact same thing (although not as candidly as done in "message boards").
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:15 PM
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The issue with n-counts lies in hypocrisy not just fairness though. Why is it hypocritical? Let's say we have a man who slept with 100 women, why can't he refuse to date non virgins because he finds them instinctually unattractive? He cannot control what he is attracted to right? I mean this is the line women use all the time. Where is the hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:12 PM
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Someone who cries and struggles with sadness is sensitive. Someone who throws a plate at your head when you break up with them is an emotional tantrum-throwing abusive baby. The first guy is usually unsuccessful with women. The second one manages to get in relationships with them (almost by definition because he is throwing a plate at a woman he in a relationship with). And that is quite telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:16 PM
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The problem with this word is that is completely meaningless. Feminists use this word to describe an overarching structure in society which is controlled by men and benefits men. The reality is such a concept is in a way a truism: any society will have a structure. Now the debate is over whether this structure favours men and that is a much harder claim to prove (in fact there is tonne of statistical that go against this claim, e.g. Death rate, suicide, homelessness, life expectancy, etc...). Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:13 PM
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What are you talking about? For example, how many women are ok with a guy shorter than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:57 AM
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First of all 5'7'' is a perfectly "average" height (it's within one standard deviation from the mean 5'9''). Secondly height has nothing to do with being healthy. In fact short men live longer than taller men and they are less likely to suffer from other complications (such as back pain).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:53 AM
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I mean yes, that's obvious. Height is a big thing for the overwhelming majority of women, outliers don't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:49 AM
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Hmm not really. For example, I know a lot of immigrant families (usually Asian) where the entire family is short but the kids tend to be much taller than their parents. At the end of the day, being tall is a huge advantage so it's worth whatever "weird discrepancy" you're talking about. Women know this and want this and this is why sperm banks have these rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:46 AM
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Oh gosh the lack of self awareness is astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:09 AM
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You should get a dictionary. Here's the definition of honest (from Oxford dictionary) : always telling the truth, and never stealing or cheating Here is truthful: saying only what is true You're literally doing mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:07 AM
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Many people here seem to confuse being honest with being truthful. There is literally zero difference between saying the truth and being honest. What you're talking about is how to convey honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:04 AM
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I disagree, they do want someone to be honest and to be themselves. But if you don't meet their criteria or preferences by doing so, your shit out of luck I disagree here. Women don't have a neutral response to "I want to get laid", they have a negative response to it. They see male sexuality as predatory and objectifying. At the same time they cry and scream about "slut shaming" because men view women who engage in casual sex in a negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:01 AM
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So if someone wanted a shorter donor they'd have to be specifically requested? Lol, that's not happening. Being tall is a huge deal to women and this is why sperm banks have these requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 11:24 PM
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Maybe, but I doubt it. It doesn't really matter though. My point is that this another piece of evidence of what women find attractive in men, contrary to PPD women's opinion. The overwhelming majority of women find shortness unattractive and suboptimal. They are perfectly aware that being short is a huge disadvantage for men, yet if you only listened to the women here you'd get a completely different opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 11:22 PM
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These are the traits men think real men should have Women have adopted this as ideal In what world do you live? Being tall is literally one of the most desired physical trait amongst women. Men created sperm banks for women. Women are the consumers and vote with their money on what sperms banks succeed. They set the requirements not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 11:17 PM
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Lol, exactly. Women are the consumers of sperm banks and that's in perfect alignment with their dating requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 01:28 PM
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Yes, I agree with you. What I mean is that women in high school don't really reflect women's view at large. The trends that societies set originate from "tested universal attractive features".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:36 PM
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We all want Chad, or we all want extremely different types of men. Most men here disagree with the latter. OP is an exception. I mean just read any other thread to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:32 PM
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Nobody says that any more who's younger than middle age. What are you talking about? Here in the UK, the phrase is ubiquitous. Have you ever seen an episode of Love Island? 99% of women on it describe that as their type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:30 PM
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You want us to all like the same kind of guy? You mostly do lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:35 AM
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when the modal ideal for hetero women around the world is a white, tall, wealthy man with a fit body basking in western hegemony. - not an ethnic guy, not a short guy, not a poor guy, not a worker, but the exact ideal they like to pretend they're against Yes, this is so fucking true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:26 AM
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I think you will find that outside of high school women aren’t as influenced by trends as you think. I'm not sure about that, the phrase "tall, dark and handsome" is probably the most common phrase amongst women in their 20s to express what they look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:16 AM
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I think it’s that on looks alone, most men aren’t attractive enough This may be true, but ultimately it shows that women only find a minority of men to really physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:31 PM
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Sorry but this is just not true. I've worked in clubs and bars for years. Yes some club have a dress code, but none will require to wear short skirts or high heels. I've also worked in university bars and clubs where there was no dress code at all and women still chose to wear extremely revealing clothes (even in freezing weather).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:30 PM
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Do they? This sub is filled with versions of "women don't have the same taste in men".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:28 AM
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Yes, this is a good point. Focusing on other things than dating is better being miserable and constant rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:01 AM
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I sort of agree with you. I've worked in clubs and bars and only a small minority of men (they're usually tall, slim/built, classically handsome, white, etc...) consistently pull girls. However, clubs and bars are one of the most common way of socialising, especially amongst young people and it's an environment conducive to sexual interaction so completely staying out of it might not be the best strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:59 PM
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I think women mostly go to clubs just to get outside. If they see an attractive guy great Yes, but doesn't that prove that most guys are physically not attractive enough for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:54 PM
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Ah ok. What other physical things about men would you say are considered attractive in Brazil? Is it the same as I described (tall, built or slim, etc...) or are there differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:34 PM
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Maybe, but in Europe, the US and even in Asia being white definitely helps. Same with being tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:26 PM
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You're saying that women care less about looks when outside of bars and clubs No I'm also specifically saying that the type of women who go more to clubs is more likely to care more about appearance than the type of women who don't. That's exactly what I mean by the statement above (reading it back I should've said it better). And I specifically said in my first comment that only about 20% of men get women's attention because of their looks. The 40-60% is the range of men that look "good enough"…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:21 PM
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Ok, but now you're making a different point. You're saying that women care less about looks when outside of bars and clubs (not that that women's physical criteria suddenly change) , but as I said that doesn't contradict my point: when it comes to pure physical attraction, women find a small subset of men attractive. Yeah but most of the time, for actual relationships, that's not the main point Sure, I'm not arguing against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:11 PM
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Most women and most women in one specific bar aren't the same thing, that's my point. OK, I see. But what would cause women in bars to have different physical preferences? This is the question you have to address, if you want to argue your point. You have stated that women in bars and club are more vain, but that aligns perfectly with my point that when physical attraction matters women choose a small subset of men. It seems quite to weird to argue that women that go to bars and clubs (which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:02 PM
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That would explain a lower percentage of guys having success with getting someone That's highly unlikely. Vain I interpreted as caring for looks mostly (in bars and clubs you can't assess much more easily). Also this point doesn't contradict what I said. Even if you were right, that still means that physically most women have quite a narrow taste in men (unless you're willing to argue that women physical preference somehow change, not lower) when outside clubs and bar. Not to mention that a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:53 PM
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more vain than average, for both men and women Nah sorry. Seriously, 99% of women can bring a guy home from a club or bar. I've see the least conventionally attractive women pull people. probably better looking and more vain than average Yeah I'm not sure about this one. Vain? Maybe. Better looking? Not really, people are just dressed up that's all. I would say, that clubs and bars are quite representative of what women find physically attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:30 PM
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I've worked in clubs and bars for years. The only guys who consistently would taking women home were usually tall, white (sometimes black or mixed race), built or slim and toned (especially if they were young). I would say less 15% of men generally fit these criteria. Hardly ever I would see a short and/or ethnic guy have success, unless they already came with a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:22 PM
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They don't, but women's criteria for attraction are more selective and discriminatory as a whole. For example, if you line up 100 women and ask them to choose between two exact same guys but one being 5'6'' (3 inches below the mean) and 6' (3 inches above the mean); 90% or more will say they prefer the 6' guy compared to 5'6''.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:14 PM
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The science does point towards assortative mating 🤷‍♀️ Those studies cannot adequately account for promiscuous men, because they constitute a minority. Men with high n counts are rare and that study simply doesn't account for it. To do a proper analysis you need a large enough sample focused on individuals with high n count only. One is angrily typing about his dating plights online, calling it "cock carousel" and "now they just want a beta bucks". This is projection. A deluded view of the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 09:06 AM
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those women are mostly marrying the other promiscuous men in their same social circle. There we go again. Are you reading what I said or just repeating the same points over and over? Promiscuous men don't want promiscuous women, you're seriously delusional if you think this is the case. Men with options will not settle for women with a high n partner count. They are in a position to negotiate. I'm just here to point out that it's delusional to think women care about these standards; Lol, how can…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:54 AM
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This shit is proven in the threads on here where women are asked how they'd like their son to be None of the women here would be capable of raising sons who would a successful and satisfying dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:23 AM
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Well for one thing, most men’s standards are lower for casual dating/sex than they are for a relationship This is true, but the example that OP gave aren't representative of what men compromise for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:20 AM
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There are plenty of women with small tits and no ass who are treated like absolute Gods among men. Indeed, men's dating criteria are far less stricter than women. For women if you're not the usual tall, slim/built type you'll be outside the vast majority of women's idea of a good looking man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:18 AM
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I said don't kid yourself into thinking you know her number. Women don't have to lie because men aren't asking; they know they're not in a position to so, aka beggars can't be choosers... because they have a harder time getting sex. First of all we literally have studies that women lie about their partner count down and men lie up, so this is false. As for the point of "men don't ask because they can't", this maybe true for men who have no options, but as I said this is a loose loose situation f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:13 AM
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Proves that women are gladly skipping out on these men, aka they want them more than the other way around. No it simply proves that men have a harder time getting sex (although I fail see to see how this would help your argument). You would actually have to prove that women are much happier in relationships than men to make your case. Don't kid yourself thinking you know what her true number is. Men and women are clearly still shacking up with each other, so much for that standard. So now you mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:12 PM
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The numbers of incels and the gender ratios on dating apps beg to differ. That doesn't prove shit, lol. They can have standards all they want, man. Just don't kid yourself that men are doing the choosing for the most part, aka beggars can't be choosers. The women men want to fuck and the women they see as good partners aren't the same. Any girl can be fuck zoned, it doesn't mean shit. Your logic is basically: men see women as sluts, but get with them anyway. Not sure how that's not an L for wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:52 PM
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Nah, more like men full on trying to cope with the fact they're not the choosers and trying to feel like they have some modicum of power here. I don't think I'm the one denying reality by rationalisation here lol. I mean, you're even doing it. I have absolutely no finger in the game as I'm happily partnered, yet you need to convince yourself I'm rationalizing it for myself. Like why? I mean if I had to take a guess is because you're trying playing gotcha because you seem to strongly identify wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:39 AM
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like 15% of human population is like 6'3. The average height in the world is 5'7''. In the US, 6' is already 85th percentile. The number of people taller than 6'3'' is likely to be less than 1% in the world. For 6'6'' you're probably looking at 0.5% or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:14 AM
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Pointing out that they're being hypocrites and the fact that beggars can't be choosers, doesn't mean they're angry. Lol, another rationalisation to convince yourself that women don't care. If this was really the case these threads wouldn't be filled by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:11 AM
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One of the fundamental issues when discussing these sort of problems is that people (especially women) always fall for the just world fallacy. Everyone has this innate desire for justice and display strong wishful thinking showing their bias towards some "fair world". As you admitted, your height and build played a huge role in your success and lack of failure with women. If you were a 5'5'' black guy, you would have had a MUCH tougher time. No amount of personality would compensate the perks of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:58 AM
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Lol, by the number of comments and angered women who love to call out the "mysoginy" whenever these kind of threads come out, women seem to care a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:44 AM
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No, that's not the reason. Most of those men compromise because they don't have many options (without even considering the political correctness a man needs to abide by in today's day and age).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:34 AM
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I am a man. It does not matter to me. I exist. Sorry red pillers, these generalisations of yours, they ain't so hot. Good for you, you're not the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:32 AM
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Men are telling women it matters. Women deny it matters because to them it doesn't matter. They refuse to accept that there is a double standard. Seriously, these women have no idea of what most men say and think when women aren't around. Yes, he's not going to tell that you're a hoe to your face because either he has no options or doesn't want to trigger you, but that doesn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:32 AM
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If there's a woman who's conventionally attractive, feminine, fit, kind, doesn't have kids and is responsible about her sexual health... that woman is usually going to have no trouble finding LTRs. I agree with this. But what I observed is that these women usually chase a tiny minority of very successful men who have myriads of options. Yes, they may lock them down temporarily but those men are very likely to be unfaithful because at the end of the day, you can be the hottest chick on the planet…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:29 AM
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so that you can shirk responsibility for things you can change Where did I say people shouldn't improve yourself? Improving yourself does not mean you stop being realistic. Women value many things in men that are due to genetic factors (like height and/or hair), that will have a very important effect on your dating life. That does not exclude self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:19 AM
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The only people I hear ever say this are young guys on Reddit with no relationship experience. Who i imagine think a relationship is managed on spreadsheet that must add up to 50/50. Ah wow, this seems really great argument. Well done, that really proves your point! IE lay off the “you can’t” lecturing. this is your opinion and nothing more. Why are you so upset about such a minor thing? How is me using the words "you can't" triggering you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:15 AM
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I like to be dominated, biten, scratched, etc. by my girl, and she likes to do it, so why would it bother you? That's not what bothers me. The point is that arguing that sexuality exists in a vacuum independently of your other parts of life is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:32 PM
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They aren't definitely the same thing. First of all in the case of "wanting an equal relationship" you can't simply leave out sex, which is a core part of the relationship. Secondly, you seriously would have to show that an individual's sexual preferences are completely isolated from their circumstances, which even feminist agree is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 03:31 PM
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There is no such thing. The way one conducts in one part of their life is always influenced by everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 02:02 PM
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Probably the same reason some men want a sexually inexperienced woman who also somehow fucks like a porn star for him. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. You don't need to fuck 50 men to be enthusiastic in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 02:01 PM
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But it really doesn't come from a place of humiliation, submission, or masochism. She likes calling her partner daddy, because she loves the idea of a protective, and overly doting partner That's literally the same thing. All I see in your comment is an purposefully twisted interpretation of what you've observed. she enjoys the violation, rather likes the idea of being irresistible to the point her partner can't control his impulses. Those are literally the same thing. Wanting a guy to forget an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 01:59 PM
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Sure, I mean that may increase your odds but at the end of the day your personality is probably already desirable to a significant chunk of the population already because the variance in desirability is really high. On the other hands increasing looks would lead to a better improvement because there more objective factors at play (although women's desirable physical traits in men often turn out to be determined by genetic factors)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:20 PM
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The problem with the "personality argument" is that personality is FAR more subjective than looks. Most women usually have a set of universally desirable physical traits that can be objectively identified like height, hair, etc... When it comes to personality, other than perhaps being sociable, the variance in desirable personalities is so high that "working on your personality" doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:13 PM
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Yes, I think this is a good point. For one short guy that is successful, there are probably thousands who aren't but people only remember the successful because they stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:23 PM
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I used to work with a guy who was shorter than me (maybe 5’7”) but had a goofy, confident personality. Lol, why is it that women on Reddit always have this mystical short guy who is smashing every woman in their life. 100% of the short guys I know have either no success with women or barely manage to find a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:32 PM
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I guess there is psychological research about what makes people cheat, maybe look at that Lmao, unless you have serious expertise in psychology your guess will never be as reliable as pure facts like the data in OP's post. This is an extremely dumb strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 12:02 AM
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If a woman takes you for granted, it means she is settling for you. This is why only a minority of guys make women feel what you're saying. If you're not in that minority, you are replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:44 PM
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Even accounting for that, men are still far more likely to cheat. Not true for young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:33 PM
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There is this thing called Bayesian inference Lmao good luck explaining mathematics/statistics to PPD women. The only thing they've learned remotely closed to is the usual nonsense of "but correlation does no mean causation".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:32 PM
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If you're a Christian (I mean if you're seriously believe), you can try to find a woman who might share your values. There are very few of them, but that's your only shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:26 PM
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Lol, this made me chuckle. In all seriousness though, that's literally what so many women say when they're presented with anything that goes against their narrative. This whole shaming tactic of calling anyone who disagrees with them "mysoginist" or "incel" is so tiring and predictable at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:23 PM
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Did you even read what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:57 AM
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Women are not favored by criminal justice they are just less violent overall than men OK using the same logic: men aren't favuoured in politics, tech and any other lucrative field, they are just more ambiguous than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:58 PM
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Yep because women commit less violence in the aggregate. So they are victims of violent men without being violent themselves What kind of nonsense take is this? Do you understand that individual men are not responsible for the entirety of the male gender? That fact the men suffer crime at the hand of other hand doesn't make their suffering any less. Lots of programs exist to reduce male violence funded by the gov mostly in regards to stopping kids from joining gangs and getting into organized cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:55 PM
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Sorry but that study doesn't really say much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:51 PM
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Yes, I agree. I think even more than that they hate being told the lie that most women aren't promiscuous. Reality is that promiscuity is a privilege for women and a small percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:49 PM
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This has been discussed a lot recently here. I think the main reason women are lower in numbers in old is because they are able to find partners quicker so they delete apps quicker than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:12 PM
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I met my husband on a dating app Have you tried being a man on a dating app? None of the things you mentioned is going to make a difference. To check this, make two profiles: one with a guy with a few inches below average height and one with a few inches above average height (Same pics of course). You'll notice a huge difference in matches and likes based on this alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:11 PM
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men don't exclusively get to decide something isn't misogynistic or insecure Lol, another straw man argument, no one even mentioned that but why do women in this sub love inventing things to push their narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:46 PM
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Because the main way people got together were parties and clubs, venues where women can pick from plenty of horny men to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 07:15 PM
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Your mathematical reasoning is fundamentally flawed. Do you understand that the different women can hook up with the same men at different times? Also the ratio is definitely not 67:33 (for example, my uni had a ratio of about 50:50).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 05:23 PM
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Look, I'm seriously baffled by your comment. Like what the heck does that have anything to do with the discussion at hand? Evolutionary psych tries to explain trends in human behaviour, it doesn't give you a recipe to predict the outcome of every single specific scenario you can imagine. I mean if you want to discuss those things OK, but they cover a completely separate topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:46 PM
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It 100% doesn't help that reddit attracts neurotic introverts prone to overthinking that also extrapolate their experiences to everybody. Yep, agreed. Anyone who make assumptions on how women operate based on PPD women is an idiot. For example, when I was at uni the majority of women regularly engaged in casual sex and hookups. In fact they did it much more than most men. But if you believe the nuns of PPD, then you'd get a completely different picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:04 PM
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You seriously seems to lack some comprehension skills. evolutionary psychology explains the reason on why a behavior or instinct is prevalent. They don't aim to explain the rational choice that individuals should make given modern society. Paternty centainty can only be assumed during times of peace, during war sexual violence against women at the hands of the conquerors is happening. This is completely irrelevant. Hilarious how men commit sexual fraud against one another, yet it is women's faul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:57 PM
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Ok I see, but the reality is that this only happens on Reddit because of its anonymity. Men irl don't complain about height requirements, in fact it's almost a social suicide to do so because you'd be labelled insecure, unattractive, etc... Most men are aware that you cannot appear "weak and insecure" because our society (especially women) shame men for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:47 PM
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The evolutionary psychology answer to that is simply that men have this instinct because they want to ensure that the child they're raising is theirs. Being promiscuous increases the odds that it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:44 PM
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She is a kid, she shouldn't be on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:40 PM
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LMFAO, seriously this sub should ban under 18s. It's not for kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:40 PM
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Being over 6' in the US is outside one standard deviation from average, so you're wrong even on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:39 PM
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Hmm...they don't? You're spending too much time on Reddit. I've met many women with absurd height requirements, never seen any men "chastising" a woman for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:35 PM
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Buy if the reasoning behind it is misogynistic, insecure or anything else, don't expect not to be called out on that. And who gets to decide that, women? Lol, this is a classic woman's response.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:31 PM
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We shouldn't even explain why we don't like high body count , we just don't. Its a basic instinct Yes, I think this is exactly the take women have on their own dating requirements. I don't agree 100% with you that it's that simple, but if women do the same thing then why shouldn't men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:29 PM
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TwoX and Askfemanism is obviously going to bolster women on it. I think this is a good point. Those two subs are just anti-men echo chambers. Do male dominated subs never complain and call women out on height preference or such? What does this has to do with the OP's post?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:27 PM
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It's just because of current social trends. There is a huge incentive and push for men to cater to women, but the opposite isn't simply the case. There is an entire political movement that supports and prioritise women, but nothing like that for men (and it's never going to happen no matter what people say). Women aren't constantly bombarded with messages that they should deeply think about how their actions and words affect the opposite gender. The situation is completely reversed for men based…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:53 PM
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No that's not what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:36 PM
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Studies show women have a different sexuality and yeah, sort of. That doesn't exactly address my point though. I think what you said is well known, but the specific aspect of women not being aroused by physical appearance seems quite far fetched and not correct to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:54 PM
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Only to a small extent. If you line up a 1000 women, you'll clearly spot that the overwhelming majority thinks that tall men are attractive while short men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:03 PM
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I haven't seen any study about, but how does that prove the claim in question? Do studies actually show that women don't experience sexual attraction to strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:59 AM
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Go to high school and take a math class.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:57 AM
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Exceptions make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:41 AM
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This answer is really dependent on age. From my observations, women in their 20s mostly fuck guys that are the usual tall, conventionally good looking (usually white) and slim/fit and in terms of relationships they get less picky but not too much. When they get older, they're willing to settle and money becomes a huge factor that influences their standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:41 AM
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For plenty of women, that's just not how it works. I enjoy looking at attractive men the way I enjoy looking at great art: it's pleasant, but not particularly sexual. And I can get to know a guy and feel attraction even if he's not a work of art. Is there actual evidence that suggests that this is the case amongst the general female population? Or are you just extrapolating from your own personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:35 AM
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This is a difficult problem and I do have a personal and complicated answer (I won't be able to type everything but I'll try to summarise shortly). The fundamental issue is that the egoisticindividualism that has become pervasive in our society. This is also coupled with extreme focus on materialistic and hedonistic pleasures. These issues should be tackled first. Feminist theory has also played a huge role in this (although here I only refer to liberal feminism and not radical feminism, which I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:43 PM
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I mean not exactly sure how my answers are more complicated than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:34 PM
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Everyone has an opinion. The animal kingdom was a representation of how males behave naturally. Bro you seriously need to read before you write. You're literally picking and choosing behaviours you see as appealing, but ignoring the rest. Your analogy can easily be used to advocate for social Darwinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:22 PM
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This can't be fixed through the policies you cited. None of the policies you mentioned take gender dynamics in consideration. It's a comparative issue that results from the different attitude men and women have towards dating. This cannot be solved by policies that don't take this into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:12 PM
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I don't need to sacrifice my own personal welfare for the betterment of society. But who said this is the case? I never even remotely suggested that. I don't think individuals should be forced into anything. But this is fundamentally an issue for our society, whether you care or not is utterly irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:03 PM
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So if it was used tomorrow you'd change your mind? Also we literally are witnessing the use of the draft in Ukraine right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 08:01 PM
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I mean it's obvious that you're purposefully ignoring the point. Bumble allow you to be more selective because of simple maths: the number of users you match >= the number of people you message. Bumble introduces an additional layer of selectiveness: the ability to filter out the matches and only message those who you feel most strongly about. If you take 100 random women on each app and give them each the same number of matches, the number of interactions through messages will be far lower on B…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:58 PM
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I mean this is a huge issue though. On a macro scale this will cause (and is already causing) an imbalance because there simply won't be enough men to that meet those financial requirements (and also contribute to class segregation).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:16 PM
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By giving women the choice to choose who to message. So women can be far more selective with who they interact with. Tinder also has far more bots and fake users, Bumble places much more emphasis on people curating their profiles and is more "buttoned up" in style than Tinder is and their moderation policy is much stricter than Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:11 PM
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The reality is, many men are attracted to women who don't challenge them, who they can fix, or feel like they provide value to. Yeah, no. I've never heard any guy in my life talking about how much a woman should make or what sort of education they should. For most men this is completely irrelevant. Women on the other seem to bring this up constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:05 PM
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Women just aren't willing to date down like a lot of men will. That's the entire issue lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:03 PM
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But it does filter out spam and women choose to interact with the guys they want. This alone should be sufficient to make it more appealing than Tinder, yet isn't. Also what make you think that women don't insult men in online interactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:54 PM
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Women have a higher ratio of negative experiences in online dating, and a lower percent of positive experiences. I'm not sure about this. I would assume that men very rarely have positive experiences using online dating. Men don’t receive the kind of creepy and angry contact that women do (messages and dates). Maybe. But I've got my doubts on this too. Especially because apps like Bumble were designed with this in mind and yet it isn't exactly very popular amongst women. Anyway, it'd be interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:47 PM
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They didn't but I don't see how that matter. Why is that relevant today? Marital rape is illegal in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:35 PM
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So what exactly do you think he meant with “oof” and “checkmate” when I said height does matter to a certain point? As I said I don't agree with him, but what he meant was this: that you're lying about your height requirements. NOT that women can't have height requirements. yes he did, he got all pissy when I said women are allowed to want someone taller than them. I’ve noticed it bothers a lot of men actually. Again, this is just projection. So why was it that when I said “prefering a taller ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:33 PM
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Interesting although more analysis on why this is the case would be needed. For example, I think one of the two principal reasons of the disparity are: Women have much easier time finding partners in real life so don't resort to online dating. Women have much higher success rate online and thus delete the apps much quicker than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:19 PM
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Right and how's that relevant? (also nice shifting of goal posts)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:34 PM
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No again you're conflating two different things that are completely unrelated. His point was that you're lying about height not mattering, to go from that to "woman are allowed to have height requirements" is completely unrelated. ah yes maybe because all he said was “oof” and “checkmate”. how silly of me to conclude that means he isn’t okay with some women wanting men that are taller then them!!!!!! And there we go this is the problem. You are deliberately misinterpreting and twisting his words…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:28 PM
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Most women's attraction to men is based on comparative factors. Women judge men on their height, looks and money compared to other men. So unless that changes, I don't think it can be "fair".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:06 PM
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What kind of dumb point is that? Firstly, abortion is legal depending depending on the state today. But most importantly, women who get pregnant choose to do that. They choose to have sex. They have complete control of not needing an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:00 PM
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Can you be more specific? Where on Reddit do men want women to stop having bank accounts?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:33 PM
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Where are these men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:02 PM
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Women choose to have birth. This is a completely dumb take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:42 PM
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“If he fits all the other criteria, and ISNT shorter than me, THEN it doesn’t matter TO ME” so where exactly did I lie? or say that height doesn’t matter? because height matters, to a certain point. that’s the harsh truth. Have you even read what I said? I didn't you're lying, I said that he was saying you're lying. I didn't say I agree with him. The point is that he never alluded to the idea that women can't have have height requirements. I'm pointing this out because this is common pattern I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:38 PM
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So now you're changing the argument. You're using an analogy with animal Kingdom by picking and choosing some behaviours because you like them, but when someone points something else in the animal kingdom you now have a problem? This should tell you how dumb your take is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:58 AM
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Fighting for doesn’t necessarily mean physical fighting. But it does lol. Physical fighting is also fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:56 AM
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Yeah, but where did he remotely mention that women aren't allowed to have height requirements? His point was that you're lying about height not mattering, that has nothing to do with it. yes but if a woman meets a guy that fits ALL her other criteria, but isn’t tall, but also isn’t shorter than her, it’s not a dealbreaker at all. at least that’s the case for me. First of all, you're probably in the minority. Also, you make it sound like it's easy to satisfy a woman's every other requirement. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:43 AM
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not a great looker So you had a boyfriend you thought were ugly. Fucking hell, feel sorry for that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:18 AM
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women are allowed to have preferences No one said anything remotely against that. Most women do want tall guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:16 AM
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In the past schools were much more focused on sitting still for long periods of time, reading and repeating knowledge. Do you have evidence that this is different now? The vast majority of education is still conducted this way. But let's assume you're right. This literally has nothing to do with the reason why boys are doing poorly: teachers and their discrimatory attitude towards boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:54 PM
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Lol, that's not the problem. You completely ignored my point: this is a recent phenomenon, it has nothing to do with schoold not having enough resources (no one seriously can say that schools in 2022 have less resources than in 1922).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:45 PM
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Have you ever worked with kids? Boys are considerably more difficult to teach compared to girls. Difficult is subjective in this case. Boys are different to work with, they respond to different stimuli and behaviours than girls do. Primary school aged boys are much more likely to get into scraps with one another and disrupt the class. This isn't what I alluded to when I'm talking about boys in early education. This is a very poor excuse to push boys to mediocrity. In fact the very fact that this…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:01 AM
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You seem to operate on the idea that the problem is completely separate from feminism and the rise of anti-masculine sentiments in our society. This is completely false. Part of the reason why men are in this crisis is because our society actively participates in demonising men and masculinity. One of the major causes of men's poor mental health is the different treatment men and women receive in the early stages of their education, where women are pushed to excellence while men are shunned down…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:03 AM
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I'm referring to what you quoted where OP is talking about men in academia and the loneliness pandemic. This is heavily influenced by the gender dynamics between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:32 PM
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What can women do about this, practically? A starting point would be to stop demonising men, shaming them for their bodies (as OP mentions in his post), stop using the feminism card and calling anyone that disagree you take on gender issues as a mysoginist or sexist. This would go along way to restore some harmony between the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:17 PM
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Very interesting. I wasn't really aware of this going on in South Korea. Not surprising in the least, that Western media dismissed the entire affair with the usual crap of "mysoginy, incels, etc...", seriously who hire these people with so blinded ideologies? Do journalists even bother to actually look into the problems they report?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:12 PM
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It's especially because you're a woman that I'm doubtful. Men rare every opens up about their life, especially to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:48 AM
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Your first jerking to porn made you not interested in socializing. Yeah sorry I don't buy this. That literally never happened to me. Not just that, pretty much all the guys I know who are extremely successful with women watch porn. It sounds a lot a like this: you believe that stopping from porn makes you more sociable and confident, this results in you actually being more confident and outgoing and thus you may get better results. None of it was because you stopped watching porn, but because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:36 AM
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That sounds like a self full filing prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:28 AM
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The young men I know who are happy, focused, not looking for a relationship How do you know they're happy? I've met several men who keep appearances but are miserable when you actually get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:26 AM
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Masturbation/sex for men is vastly different than for women. Your comment is analogous to when women complain about the orgasm gap by completing neglecting the biological differences between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:25 AM
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And family is about what? Not love? Yes but family has little to do with romantic love. Do you understand that two people can love each other romantically without having a family? I like how the concept of marriage evolved over the years. I value the freedom of choice. This is not how the concept of marriage evolved. If you can’t see how marrying for love and the possibility of divorce are connected then well 🤷‍♀️ There is literally no logical link between those two things. You trying to act con…
/r/ExRedPill29/08/22 10:43 AM
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Bro, she was a child. They do dumb stuff like that but that guy probably knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:52 PM
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At first, I knew she was only with him for money So she's a gold digger?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:15 PM
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It was never about love in the first place. Thought this was common knowledge. Marriage is not about love, marriage is about family (certainly not romantic love). Governments and societies would have no reason to subsidise and recognise the value of marriage if it was simply about two wanting to live/stay together. If human beings couldn't reproduce and build a family, the concepts of marriage would make zero sense. The concept of marriage evolved over the years. This is true (in a worse way imo…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 09:14 PM
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Marriage never worked in most cases in the past. It just wasn’t talked about. Or dismissed as “it happens all the time”. Do you have source for this? And what does "worked" mean here Men and women are both shallow. Some people are going to be more shallow, some less. But we’re all shallow. This just seems to be a meaningless and unhelpful truism. If you want kids but want to avoid women then you can still become a single dad. This is extremely crap advice. No one should raise a kid by themselves…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 08:19 PM
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you seen men with three teeth hooked on crack with a cute girlfriend living in her house because she think she can’t do better Never witnessed this in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:54 PM
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hook-up apps where women are judging only on photos. Bro, I just literally told you this isn't true. The height experiment shows that women don't judge solely on photos. You can't tell someone's height based on photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:56 AM
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Women are judging guys with boring profiles and a few bad photos who are sitting at home on the toilet swiping on pictures This is the furthest thing from truth. Women are fundamentally attracted to a minority of men. Don't believe this? Make two profiles and list your height, one with several inches below average and one with several inches above average. The difference in the number of matches just based on that is astonishing (nearly in 10 fold when I tried).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:04 AM
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That's completely different topic. I'm just pointing out that people here change the narrative whenever it's convenient for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:09 PM
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If you want casual sex, maybe try not asking for a relationship? That's not going to work. To get casual sex consistently you need to be tall and classically handsome. The majority can't and don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:06 AM
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Women on this sub always say that most men aren't attractive enough to get casual sex like "Chad" and that they shouldn't complain about it, but they can get in relationships because standards are different, etc... Yet, whenever a post like this is made they completely switch the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:43 PM
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Applying the notion of Darwinism to dating is absolute buffoon level of thinking. If you truly want to think in terms of survival of fittest, then one also has to justify forcibly taking a women by force just like it happens in the nature. Exactly, if you want Darwinism then be prepared to hellish consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:25 PM
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You're experience is an exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:39 PM
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Furthermore some women are attracted to short men. Furthermore some very few women are attracted to short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:30 PM
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it is easier for men to get relationships than women. No it's definitely not. Women can get into relationships far more easily than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:26 PM
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Height thing is fair, but race/ethnicity less so. This is true, but ethnicity still plays a role. Although, it's likely that it will matter less and less as time progresses. Also height is clearly correlated with ethnicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:19 PM
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So why do women do this on Reddit too? That's just BS. It's just virtue signalling and nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:17 PM
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11056255/Tall-men-get-ahead-in-marriage-as-well-as-work.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 01:54 PM
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Of your list maybe Tom Holland would also qualify as HV Most women disqualify dating Tom Holland based on his height alone if he wasn't a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:08 AM
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"hooking up" has always been a sub culture, from hippies, to clubs, to the tinder boom Yeah lol no. Hooking up is the norm at universities and young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:17 PM
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We have statistics showing most women arent into hookups. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:13 PM
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Yes, but you haven't answered my question. Why would women stop chasing tall guys? What does being tall have to be with being a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:16 AM
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Why would for example being tall make you a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:30 AM
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If she's still picking you out of the oodles of matches she could get online why are you thinking you are the "last resort?" Because she's only picking you because she doesn't better options (based on their past history) . That's the entire point. Not sure why this is so hard to understand. Men don't want to feel that their partner settled for them and be used. People's past history is extremely relevant to they are and expecting men to just disregards is disingenuous imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:31 PM
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This is the causal effect men here keep misapplying Hmm, not sure what you mean here. Sure there is a discrepancy between how women see their attractiveness and how others view it, but that doesn't negate my point. ideally. But men also want “ideally”. None of us get the most “ideal”, Hmm I don't know, I can surely say that I know that the men I've have certainly more lenient and varied taste than the women I've met. Like I've never met in my life a man be like: 90% of women aren't dateable beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:27 PM
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The suddenly varies from woman to woman, but just like any discussion around dating, it is all about trends and not absolute truths. From my observations, women start to shift their perspective when they are perceived to be less attractive due to their age. Typically this happens around when they're in their very late twenties, but it can vary from woman to woman because different people age differently. Women tend to not have a super fixed “type” of man who were carbon copies of each other. Sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:32 PM
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No one said facial attractiveness isn't important. However, the height thing was just an example. Also as an aside, height is a qualifier. It's necessary but not sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:26 PM
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Like just wasnt that much of a driver in my attraction for someone anymore. I think maybe you can't logic hormonal shifts. Hmm, I haven't any studies or evidence of this "hormonal shift" you're talking affecting physical preferences after a certain age. However, men simply cannot ignore the strange coincidence that this change in dating requirements happen approximately when women start becoming less youthful and attractive. It seems quite convenient that they now like guys they previously rejec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:24 PM
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No, that's a very different point. The issue isn't having exes, the issue is that women suddenly start going for guys they previously found unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:18 PM
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I think maturing is part of it but maybe hormones switch too because i stopped seeing that sort of guy as attractive and more just annoying. That doesn't make any sense. For example, why would women start to find shorter men attractive after a certain age? Literally every study on human attraction show the overwhelming majority of women have a bias towards tall men, then why do short guys become attractive after a certain age? The only thing that explains is that short guys don't suddenly become…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:52 AM
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but solely to point out something common between the two genders Yes, I understand your point and I somewhat agree. But your statement is a mere technicality and in a practical sense it's completely misleading. It'd be far more accurate to state: but to solely point out something common between a lot of men and a tiny fraction of women You're free to dismiss this point because you don't want to engage in "struggle Olympics", but what you said is still misleading imo. The virginity issue is pract…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:30 AM
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Yes, but my point is the percentage is so small that it's practically irrelevant (especially because out of the 0.01% women most of them are virgin are so by choice) . On the other hand, the issue for men is FAR more prevalent and important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:00 AM
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I think, after a certain age, it's not a good look for women either. At least, with this sex-positive culture that we have now. Maybe, but 99.99% of women are definitely not virgins after the age you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:33 PM
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I think it's quite sad, but they'll eventually get settled by women who weren't able to make the men they were chasing commit or they remain single. There is a reason for example, why so many women change or drop their dating requirements after a certain age by appealing to "maturity" and "better understanding of what I want", it's just a coping (sometimes even deceitful) mechanism to deal with the fact that the guys they were chasing aren't seriously interested in them. Classic example of this …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:02 PM
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Happy relationships can enhance your happiness. This is not true. (Good) Relationships are essential to happiness for most people, they are built in our social and instinctual understanding of the world. Just because some relationships can turn out negatively doesn't negate this point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:39 PM
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Virgin is definitely not used as a derogatory term for women, that only applies to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:36 PM
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the sad girls of Reddit say Unfortunately, the sad girls of Reddit are usually the least reliable and representative source on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:10 PM
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What if you are not a liar or someone reveals your sexual secrets to your significant other and feels like you hid something from him or told a lie of omission. That's fine and well, but not what happens in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 10:53 PM
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there is hell to pay because no one will have them as a girlfriend or wife. You don't have to disclose it. Indeed, studies shows that women lie about their partner count. Women heavily desire men. No, most women heavily desire a minority of men. Things like height, looks, social status discard most men being from being "desired". Most women settle for their partners, that leads to sex less marriages and unhappy women. It shows because women initiate the overwhelming majority of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 10:42 PM
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Women also crave sex just as much as men and have the capacity to enjoy sex infinitely more than men do. The major difference is that women have much higher requirements for sex than men. I'm talking about the physical features of the men they want (things like height, looks, penis size, etc...). Things that most men are discarded by and have no control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 02:18 PM
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That's already true. That's not true. Women can't do that. Most women can do that. Women are not really allowed to have casual sex though and committed relationship sex can be hard to come by. In what world do you live where women aren't allowed to have casual sex? Pretty much all women I know have/had casual sex regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 02:15 PM
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If you're tall, rich and handsome, this is already a reality. In the presence of high status men, women behave like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 02:10 PM
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Gosh, you really can't read can you? None of what you said addresses my point. It's like someone said: "I'm not really referring to X" and you're like "OK, I was X and therefore...". Do you see the dissonance there? OP literally told you that he is not referring to this type of individual and yet you still continue to talk about it, as if it was point. said that I thought being nice meant being doormat, got frustrated that I was getting taken advantage of and started acting like a dick in hopes …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:44 AM
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Then how does your response that I quoted addresses OP's claims??? They literally told you that they are not talking about spineless doormats and you just proceeded by saying that you were that. It seems like you focused on one particular section of my response and didn’t give it any further thought Yeah, because that part just nullifies your point because OP told that he wasn't talking about those kind of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:14 AM
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I used to think like you, that being “nice” was weak and that women didn’t respect me, but what was actually happening is that I was just being a doormat, and not just to women. OP literally addresses this point in his opening sentence. Have you even bothered to read his post? It seems like you just read the title and gave the standard response that people have when challenged on this position without even reading Ops position.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:51 AM
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Or maybe you're an idiot?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:56 AM
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There is literally nothing up, they're just joking around. You're just making up crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:39 AM
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It's very, very obvious if you look at interviews where they almost slip up Lol, where? The ones you posted have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:29 AM
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Most men don't ride the pussy carousel. The height and looks requirements imposed by women are just way too high for most men to satisfy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:26 AM
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Everybody harps on critical race theory and me, being somebody that actually took crt courses at the actual level they're taught at, law school, I'm absolutely not reducing myself to level of somebody that seriously uses "race card" Wow! Sorry for bothering with my low IQ response, you must be so intelligent and knowledgadble because you a took a course in college!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:16 PM
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You can't possibly believe that ppd women are a good sample for this conclusion, can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:46 PM
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It’s so fucking funny when white America gets a peep into what happens in black and other minority culture while the rest of us laugh and make memes etc. Lol, fuck off. Trying to play the race card to justify violent assault. Y’all will paint this/us as violent, scary, ghetto, weak, etc. What Will Smith did is fucking violent and dumb. You can't seriously justify this. By your logic, no one should ever make a joke about anyone. I seen people get smacked for a hell of a lot less. People get smack…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:43 PM
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I can’t help the fact that you’re not using critical thinking here. I feel like I'm arguing with a wall. I will repeat for the last time: that's not the meaning of sexualising!!! You can't "sexualise a friendship". Your take is honestly very fucking dumb. You can't just bend the meaning of words to make your point. What you're describing has nothing to do with sexualising. Thinking the friendship is going to lead to a sexual encounter and/or romance. This is NOT sexualising. But I know this is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:23 AM
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Sexualizing your friends isn’t just thinking they’re attractive. It’s omitting your intentions while the other person is unaware you have sexual or romantic feelings Please stop. You're bending the meaning of "sexualising". Just grab a dictionary. What you're describing (deceit and lying) has nothing do with the topic. In fact, it has nothing do with the comment you replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 09:25 PM
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I’m not talking about consenting to thoughts. Im talking about men thinking it’s okay to want a sexual relationship and pursue that while lying to women saying they’re “friends”. Then you need a dictionary, because you don't understand the meaning of sexualising. I agree with what you said, but that's an entirely different claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:31 PM
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Don’t sexualize platonic friends. It’s not a sexual relationship and they’re not consenting to a sexual relationship with you. You're deranged. Do you know what consent means? You can't "consent" someone to having thoughts. Sexualising someone isn't a physical or verbal act, it's literally thinking of a person in a certain way. No one can consent to it. Not hard. I’m attracted to women. I have a huge amount of female friends. Never once saw them sexually because i don’t feel attraction to my pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:15 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if you people like you actually think about they say or are blindly pushed by our mainstream narratives. What the fuck does it even mean to sexualise someone with consent? Like do you go and ask the person: can I think of you sexually? Your reason is beyond stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:12 PM
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It's not just testosterone. It's about the experience of being a man, there are probably a thousands factors contributing to that, both social and biological. You can't just say: don't sexualise them. This is especially true for individuals who never had intimate relationships, they will think about that in most interactions with the opposite sex. There isn't much they can do about this. Men aren't having these thoughts voluntarily. You can control how you act on your feelings, but there isn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:23 AM
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sexualizing them without their knowledge/consent. Fucking hell, that's just pure stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 08:16 AM
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The way you're spouting mindless and dumb truisms like: But not everyone with a high n is actively increasing their number Also blows my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:45 PM
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Nice shaming tactic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:37 PM
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My female friends cheat more than my male friends prior to marriage. This is in line with the research. Women cheat more than men when they're young because they have a lot more options than young men. In fact, it's very difficult for a man to cheat even if he wanted too. For women, finding people to cheat with is like drinking water, there is no real effort involved. After a certain age, women can't do this anymore because their sexual desirability decreases a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:36 PM
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Because hedonism and selfishness go hand in hand. In fact, by definition hedonism is a selfish philosophy. If your view of life is centred around the pursuit of your own pleasure, your decisions and life choices will inevitably prioritise yourself and your wellbeing and disregard the wellbeing of others. Note that I haven't argued that selfishness is bad or good (although I do think it is bad), because that's a whole different discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:15 PM
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Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:38 PM
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Impulsiveness, selfishness and a hedonistic view of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:38 PM
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Character has more influence on whether a person is a cheater than "body count", best to judge them by that. Body count is heavily influenced by their character and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:35 PM
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The only predictor for future infidelity is a history of infidelity. What a person did while they were single bears zero relation to their behavior within a serious relationship. Studies show that this is not the case at all. It's also common sense. Infidelity isn't caused by past infidelity, it's caused by other factors such as impulsiveness and selfishness, it turns out that people who have a hedonist view of sex cheat more. Not sure why people have a problem with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:33 PM
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Lol yeah. PPD women are the worst possible sample size though. Their opinions are quite useless if you want to improve your dating life. Most of them just gaslight and virtue signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:30 PM
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Depends on the height. If you're tall you're good, if you're short you're fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:05 AM
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Your cognitive dissonance is astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:15 AM
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"I'm right because I said so". Nice argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:54 AM
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Regardless, if you as a man want to avoid paying financial support (which is what the topic is about) don’t nut in women you don’t plan on having a baby with There can't be a regardless here. Reason being that the logic applied is clearly in contradiction with the society wide standard of abortion. I'm not saying that your statement isn't consistent in isolation, but it's fundamentally flawed if you look at how our society applies a completely different standard (and BTW I'm pro choice).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:59 AM
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Her choice happens after his, so he is beholden to hers, but first he is beholden to his. If he never chooses to do it, her choice never comes into play. No her choice happens at the same time. Her choice happens (accordung to your logic), when she decides to have sex and let the guy nut in her. She can simply choose to not let the guy nut in her or decide to not have sex with him if she is fearing pregnancy. Women get pregnant because they choose to have sex with other men, pregnancy isn't impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 12:56 AM
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Again, learn to read. None of what you said contradicts my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:25 PM
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You can ask him to pull out but that doesn't mean he will. You can abstain from sex if you think you're going to have sex with a guy who is going to cum inside you despite having agreed not to. It is that simple. Women have 100% of control of their bodies too. If men are responsible for nutting inside women, women are equally responsible for letting them do so. BTW the argument you just made can literally be applied to sperm jacking too. You can't never trust a person 100%. Also, I'm not opposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:24 PM
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So if two people are together but never want kids that can never have sex. Do you have reading comprehension issues? The point is that if men are held responsible for their dicks (this is what the comment I was replying to said), then women are equally responsible for their vaginas. If two people are together and don't want to have kids (according to the comment's logic), they need to accept the risk of having undesired kids. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:10 PM
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Yeah and a woman can tell a guy to not come in her or better she can just never let a guy have sex with her if she is fearing unwanted pregnancy. Your argument is worse than stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:05 PM
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besides some abstract fairness What the fuck is "abstract fairness"? The argument is simple, if men are responsible for their dicks, then women are responsible for their vaginas. If women don't want pregnancies, they should control their vaginas. This is literally the exact same logic you exposed in your comment applied to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:03 PM
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I'll spell it out to you. Don't let the guy cum in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:00 PM
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just don’t nut in a woman that you don’t want to have a baby with. Just don't let a man nut inside you. It's literally the same exact argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:59 PM
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And research that shows prior partners and likelihood of cheating isn't as reliable, since there could be many more other factors involved. I call BS on this. Show me the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:09 PM
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I'd argue the average woman does look a lot better.. No, they don't. Just take makeup away and we are on equal playing fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:07 PM
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They just need to not nut inside woman they don't want to knock up. No pregnancy. No periods. They have the easiest of the procreate process. The exact same thing could be said of women getting abortions. They should just abstain from sex. Women can be responsible for their own vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:04 PM
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abstain from sex. Lol, same thing could be said to women about abortion. Your view is just complete nonsense. It doesn't even address the argument. Jesus guys, you're making it seem like your sperm is just running around here willy-nilly. Again, not an argument. Just a dumb biased statement. Sperm jacking is a thing and should be punished, no matter how rare you think it is. Pretty sure most children aren't the product of female-on-male rape. The frequency of a crime has nothing do with whether …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:02 PM
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It's funny how if you use the same argument against feminism (e.g. there are less women in politics because they choose to, there are less women in stem because they choose to, etc...), feminists will call you a mysogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:35 AM
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I wonder where are all the feminists crying and protesting about how Ukrainian men have been socially coerced by the patriarchy to give their life away for their country. I wonder why no fucking feminist is protesting against this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:33 AM
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Western men Ukrainian men are Western men ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:31 AM
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Western women complain about western men. Ukraine is in the West. Guaranteed the majority of women would jump into the lap of just about any Ukrainian man thats fighting for their country. No they wouldn't lol. Women are drooling over Zelenskyy and it’s easy to see why. Because he has social status, he's the president of a country and extremely wealthy. If he was a random short Ukrainian soldier, no woman would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:30 AM
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True, but mind you there are also plenty of women out there who cant get a man... Because they have high requirements, not because it's difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:13 PM
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Dating really isn’t that bad, the majority of people are in relationships Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:10 PM
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guys who are short, fat, skinny lanky, nerdy, odd, all have partners Mostly because eventually women settle for these guys in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:08 PM
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Be careful of the source of the advice you take. Most of the people here (especially the women) are long married/off the market. You’ll get all sorts of advice that doesn’t work in the modern market. This should be pinned somewhere in the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:22 PM
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Hedonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:16 PM
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Asking women what they want in surveys gives no useful info. Indeed, that's why peer review studies exist and they contradict most of stuff women say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:03 AM
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People need to understand that this subreddit is not representative of the female population Absofuckinglutely. The women here are the worst sample size possible. Irl, women have no problem saying stuff like : over 6', big and manly. They still lie about money irl as well though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:01 AM
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The same with "small dick energy" / "big dick energy". Or tall men vs short men. Exactly. Irl, the overwhelming majority of women will straight up tell you that they will never date a short guy, but here is filled with virtue signalling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:05 AM
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That's quite a while, especially if you factor in the time before "making it official". The average guy doesn't even get "a couple of relationships a year". Also you can easily have 3-4 relationships per year, this is without considering just dating and having sex. A woman could go on dates with 15 different guys in year, while a guy might do like twice a year. That is more than enough to create a "gap" between the experience of men and women. Women just don't seem to think that "dating" apps wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 10:30 PM
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I think the current format is fine Yeah lol, women already have it very good on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:06 PM
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Personal experience I've heard from both men and women which is valuable when learning about the struggles of each Yeah, ok it makes sense now why you have that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:48 PM
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On what evidence do you base this fact that both genders struggle equally? What metric other than personal experience are you using?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:40 PM
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Individual people may have it worse but entire genders do not In Saudi Arabia, women have it inherently worse than men. No doubts about that. This strange idea that you got has no basis in reality. There is no entity regulating equality between genders, so most likely depending on the place/context one has it probably worse than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:30 PM
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My take is that a feminine looking short dude with brown skin was able to land about 30 dates in 18 months, setting them up mostly over the internet. First of all she's white, 5'10'' (which in early 2000s might as well be our 6 feet equivalent). She landed 30 dates in the very early 2000s when online dating was a niche. Online dating is drastically different now than before. There is no way she could that in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:27 PM
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I doubt anyone she was befriending actually thought she was a man It literally said in the documentary that they asked people and none of them suspected she was a woman. Maybe you should watch the documentary before commenting?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:25 PM
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This was in 2005 when online dating didn't exist in the form it does today. I bet my life that her experience would be FAR worse if she were to try the same experiment in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:21 PM
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according to you? According to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:21 PM
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Studies in what countries ? At what times ? In the US. Here is one for example from 2013 (there are others just Google them) https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-013-0266-3 I've never been asked this question. This is because in the current social climate, asking something like that and judging women for their sexual past is considered politically incorrect and many women will have an adverse reaction if asked this question (discounting the likely labelling of "mysogynist" on men adm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 06:25 PM
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But plenty of people - men and women - just don't care, never think about it, never ask their partners how many they had before, or just acknowledge it without a second thought. Lol, no. There are literally studies that show women lie (down) their number of sexual partners. They wouldn't do that if men didn't care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:43 PM
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Women literally define who's alpha. The overwhelming majority of women want guys who are physically dominant for example (tall and big). That's a clear example what's considered alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:41 PM
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