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Didnt need a study to tell you that. Here in Canads there is literally a special interest group within our professional governing body (for engineers) whose mandate has been to have 30% of engineers as women by 2030. There are also various programs to give women preferential treatment for entrepreneurship, and even dedicated funds (by RBC) that invest in women only businesses. Surprise surprise, looking at the historics of that fund, it has VASTLY underperformed the broad market.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 01:27 AM
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The problem might have been your high IQ. When you are logical and see the world clearly, the ability to point out fallacies ends up pissing people off. This applies to social situations and most workplaces in general. These social dynamics are even more pronounced in female dominated spaces of course. The only way a man can succeed in a female environment is if he's the dumb and gay type. Eg. Like those guys that work in high end fashion retailers
/r/MensRights18/05/26 12:33 PM
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Working harder gets you diminishing returns. The primary mechanism for men to work hard was the motivation to provide for and impress women. This includes increasing their status (eg. being a manager), and increased spending like bigger houses, nicer cars, vacations, etc.. By not being partnered up, the very logical realization is that a man only needs to put in enough effort to sustain themselves at a basic level, leaving more time for hobbies instead of destroying his body.
/r/MensRights18/05/26 12:19 PM
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I had a girl blatently accuse me for not offering to pay on a first date. The expectations and delusions are unreal.
/r/MensRights18/05/26 12:10 PM
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Feminism is a blessing in disguise for men. I would say my prime dating years of ~25-35 was when a woman could have easily locked me down and convinced me to be a good husband + work 30 more years to get bigger houses, cars, etc... It wouldn't have taken much, just someone who was nice and took care of herself. Of course, this was also peak dating app season for women so I was dealing with constant rejections, ghosting, unrealistic expectations and all that nonsense to the point where I'm just e…
/r/MensRights18/05/26 12:02 PM
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35 I would say. If she is single, she has likely been ran through yet is fighting the internal biological clock and is frustrated why men arent meeting her standards or stepping up. If she has kids (either with a husband or single mom), she is likely in Karen mode. Single moms tend to be even worse, as they have the extra financial struggles of having made bad choices, but wont take accountability and is wondering why life suddenly got harder.
/r/MensRights18/05/26 11:51 AM
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It's worse than that. The school systems of the west are breeding groups for woke leftist ideaologies which are just echo chambers that contribute to the downfall of society. Look at the recent 2026 NDP convention in Canada which has gone viral recently. Basically a bunch of adults bickering about who is more disadvantaged and arguments over misgendering vs any actual work or progress being made. It's actually quit comedic to watch the highlights. The ontop of that, the University of New Brunswi…
/r/MensRights24/04/26 05:06 PM
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Also the health issues can become a huge mental and financial burden that you'll have to support. If you leave, you'll be called the narcissist and abuser.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 02:33 PM
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How I would explain it is that instinctively, women do naturally fear men as a physical threat. That's why in their mind they do really think they are the victim and being abused anytime they don't get what they want. They are conflicted because for reproductive purposes they want the alpha, but they also know the alphas are narcissists and aren't going to stick around, thereby forcing them to settle with a beta for survival. Women cannot overpower men physically, so the only tool they can use i…
/r/MensRights23/04/26 02:20 PM
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I think women are realistically only naturally attracted to maybe less than 1% of men. These are the men they'll do anything for, including committing crime. But they eventually settle for the top 5-10% for survival. These are the men they'll convince themselves they love, but only if the men keep providing and behaving. The rest of the men, if they ever end up deciding to settle...are purely for survival purposes only. However, with the state bailing out failures (single moms) and providing a r…
/r/MensRights23/04/26 02:07 PM
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Before, the average man got a cut of the spoils but they were worked to the bone. They did so because they were given false hope that they *may* get a woman, which kept them motivated. Or worse yet, they raised someone else's kids either knowingly or unknowingly when they did encounter a woman. Then of course, when they were no longer useful they were quietly forgotten. This is the story for the vast majority of males in history. I would argue it's actually no different now, except that the rule…
/r/MensRights23/04/26 02:02 PM
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I do think the solution is simple. Let women do the initiating. Men get so little validation that any women who puts in even a slight effort to initiate or show attention...it immediately makes that woman more likely to be taken seriously and for the man to actually want to reciprocate.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 12:17 PM
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They don't care about the undesirables (which is 95% of men) from a dating standpoint, but they like the attention and the free stuff that comes with it. The silent men are the ones that hold up society. These men never had a chance with those women, but it was the belief that there was a chance which is what kept them working and conforming. If these men have no incentive to work (which they are now realizing), it's a dangerous thing for the world.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 12:14 PM
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When women say they want a meaningful relationship, what they really mean is they want a man to provide unconditionally both mentally and physically (financially). The reason why they struggle now is that men are now keeping tabs in demanding a fair value return. So all the validation, attention, and free stuff they were used to getting...is now drying up. Feminism has actually liberated men by making them more aware of the transactional nature of a relationship.
/r/MensRights23/04/26 12:08 PM
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Women will say they are not worried, but deep inside they know the clock is ticking which is what worries them. The most powerful tool men have is time, which they are using to their advantage. A man can check out, and come back later to the table 10 years later when he changes his mind and decides he wants a partner but with the rules of the game better aligned to his benefit. Many women are not willing to give in and admit they are wrong however. They will double down on their delusions up unt…
/r/MensRights23/04/26 11:55 AM
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Pretty much all Canadian universities do this. I've seen positions at UofA blatantly say preference is given to minorities, persons of color, and etc.. They do this not only for employment opportunities, but also for students, grants, and etc.. This has been decades in the making and why Canada is now a shitshow. Just look at some of the highlights from the recent 2026 NDP convention. It is an accurate representation of what our institutions look like.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 09:57 PM
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Like all these leftist movements, many of them have overstepped what would've been a reasonable boundary. By being so obnoxious and unreasonable, the general public has started to realize how silly these movements are and are now pushing back or ridiculing them. Previously, cancel culture made it a taboo to be critical of it. Even normal women are realizing how stupid it has been and how bad of an influence it is on their kids.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 12:00 PM
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Not sure what the point of this post is, except trying to validate that it's ok to call men creeps for not behaving in a set way? I find autistic people to simply be blunt and a little awkward with social cues, but not necessarily more likely to commit SA or violence compared to a normal man.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:55 AM
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Modern women simply aren't wife material. Unless you are a top G and she has natural unwavering desire (extremely rare), most husbands simply represent the safe choice that she eventually settled with after having had her fun or been ran through by a bunch of other dudes.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 12:38 AM
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You're not wrong, but with basic common sense a guy can usually filter out the gold diggers. Gold diggers are typically not very patient, so by not giving into their demands they tend to go away. Could be something as simple as suggesting to go for a walk/coffee date instead of a fancy dinner.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 08:43 PM
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They only want men to approach for the validation. And even then, they would only reciprocate on the sort of men they actually find attractive. So for the vast majority of men, it's a waste of time and money to be spoiling or buying random women things to chase them. Most of these women have been too be brainwashed by Disney and movies expecting prince charming to come sweep them away. Most men are so starved from that sort of attention that if women simply did the initiation or showed basic app…
/r/MensRights19/04/26 05:23 PM
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We are undergoing a very rapid decline of the West, perhaps faster than that of the Roman empire. Leftist idealogy like feminism have certainly played a crucial part in this such as through the breaking down of the nuclear family, human values, and the bond between man and woman. Nature will eventually equalize itself, but a few generation of people will have to go through pain before that happens.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 04:03 PM
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The manosphere wouldn't exist if women didn't behave in the manner that people like Andrew Tate describe. I do understand how it can be percieved as toxic, because sometimes the revealing of how the game is played... presents a systematic risk. When young men struggle in life, they look to the internet for answers. The manosphere provides a community where men exchange ideas and offer suggestions on how that man can better himself, and navigate the modern world around him. Feminists and the woke…
/r/MensRights19/04/26 03:52 PM
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This is even more extreme than suggesting that all born children should get DNA tested to confirm who is the father. Feminists would never agree to that.
/r/MensRights19/04/26 04:22 AM
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At first, I was really disappointed by all the rejection, ghosting, and other exhausting aspects of modern dating. But then over time I felt relief as I realized feminism has actually been liberating for men. Not being in a serious relationship for years has primarily been the reason why I've been able to save and invest aggressively, to the point where I should be retired by 40. For a woman to enter my life at this point, she is going to have to really bring something of value because I'm not g…
/r/MensRights16/04/26 03:51 AM
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Unfortunately you are correct, especially if they are single moms. It's very common to see some guy willing to step in even in their 50s, to support them and their teenagers through college. They never have a shortage of bailout plans, just depends on how low they are willing to go.
/r/MensRights13/04/26 03:18 PM
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Canada has long been taken over by woke left radicals. We're forced to perpetually pay into a system to account for sins done in the far past by people who weren't even our ancestors (since most of us are immigrants). It's getting ridiculous now. Even when the government tries to cut funding to useless programs, they'll throw a fuss and cancel anyone out. Search up the recent MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+ debacle.
/r/MensRights12/04/26 02:26 PM
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They are going to die alone, but the problem is the trail of wreckage on society as they do so. Taxpayers are forced to step in to bail them out in the end since most of them have gone through life without any long term planning or accountability. Also by being single moms, they've created an entire new generation of broken human beings by not having been raised in nuclear families.
/r/MensRights12/04/26 02:21 PM
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You cannot have a logical debate with a feminist, the reason why they are the way they are is because they can't control their emotions. If you try to point out things they could do better or their behavior, they'll call it abuse. This is why modern society is collapsing quickly.
/r/MensRights12/04/26 02:18 PM
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People are free to play make believe in playing dress up, or have surgery done if they so choose to. But there are consequences to that, such as not fitting in with society and people subconsciously thinking you're a freak because it's not normal. No different to getting a full body tattoo or piercings. I don't care what people choose to do to their bodies, but I also feel we don't need this LGHDTV stuff shoved in our faces all the time, and especially for children to be so exposed to this like …
/r/MensRights05/04/26 03:32 AM
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The institutions indoctrinate kids from a young age. It starts off harmless, like teaching tolerance and acceptance, but that creeps into full on woke DEI narratives where people get convinced they are marginalized or that they can turn into different genders if they want. There are always some kids who may be a little "off" or have mental disorders, and instead of a system that helps them be more normal...we now encourage them to double down on their personalities. This is how eventually into a…
/r/MensRights31/03/26 04:12 PM
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The current social and economic situation is very difficult for a young man to enter society and establish himself him. Not only is he screwed from the job market but also dating. The advice he gets from instituitions and mainstream sources is politically correct, but does not work at all. When he questions this and starts encountering advice that is more "brutally honest", he is called an incel for believing in such. For women, their experiences are complete opposite. They are born with value a…
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:33 PM
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I would say around ~2017 was when dating apps started to rise, and peaking shortly after covid. At first it was not bad and was fun/exciting to have matches. As guy, I did put effort into arranging dates. I have some female friends who I've known from peak dating app period, and I too have seen the rise of their behaviors changing into being intolerable/dellusional. They too are childless, or single moms...further increasing their bitterness. The apps and experiences from them, really have zappe…
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:20 PM
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Dating apps are going to be looked back upon as a huge social experiment in which millenials took the brunt of the impact. It will be atleast a decade or two before we acknowledge the results. I wouldn't be surprised to see it banned, similar to how some countries are banning social media for youth. IMO any woman who has spent too much time on dating apps is pretty much a write off in being ideal wife material due to the lack of pair bonding. Their minds are already zapped. Even if they do get m…
/r/MensRights28/03/26 01:11 PM
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/r/MensRights20/03/26 06:43 PM
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The average man never had power. But at minimum he could have some basic respect from his partner and family for the support he provides. This has now been erased. When women refer to men, they are referring to the ones they are attracted to. Everyone else is an invisible NPC.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 02:56 PM
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Well the thing is, the average man in ANY society historically has been treated as a disposable pawn and forgotten. Whatever stress and problems you had, you simply had to deal with it alone. The men that women are claiming to get an unfair advantage, are usually the small % of priviledged men. Realistically, being born in modern times is still likely better than the past.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:43 PM
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Brazil is a country well known to be overrun by feminist ideaology. Perhaps worse than Canada.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:37 PM
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I almost don't feel sorry for this guy. Any guy that is still taking single moms seriously despite all the free knowledge and warnings from his friends/family against it... has what's coming to him.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:35 PM
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I don't know about this. The average single mom still has no shortage of simps willing to bail her out.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:33 PM
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I am all for exploiting such legal loopholes, but the reality is both men and women would see through the actual intent behind this. It's great seeing the various stories of guys doing this to benefit anywhere from lowered retirement ages, insurance discounts, and etc.
/r/MensRights04/03/26 05:22 PM
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These events don't work. Good looking guys don't need to go to these events. The vast majority of men who attend are average and it's a waste of time for them because it's just one huge humiliation ritual. The women are merely complaining because they aren't getting the sort of men they desire to come to these events.
/r/MensRights26/02/26 10:24 PM
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The idiots who come up with these dumb social programs are the same sort of folks that champion DEI. Kids aren't stupid. When they put out stuff like this, boys will naturally feel something is off and if anything WANT to go against the grain. That's when the curiosity kicks in, they start looking for answers (on the internet), and will eventually run into Andrew Tate/Red Pill content. As much as people may disagree with some of that stuff, the reality is that from a young boy's perspective they…
/r/MensRights23/02/26 09:23 PM
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This hits on a very important point. The most authentic and unconditional romance can only occur when there is true desire from both parties. For women, that means they are going for the top guy whereas for most guys, it's just whatever woman who is of sufficient attractiveness gives them attention. This means that guys can very readily fall in love. For a woman, chances are the guy she ends up with is the person she settles for because time is running out. She can pretend she loves the guy due …
/r/MensRights23/02/26 08:57 PM
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Life is 10x harder for short guys, not going to deny that. He can get jacked which is do-able (easier than getting rich), but the truth is the odds are still stacked against short men. An average guy of 5'9" is still going to be seen favorably and taken more serious by the world than a jacked 5'5". Not only by women, but in the workplace, social interactions, and etc... Money is easier said than done for sure. But OP can start by understanding how money works, learn about business, investing, et…
/r/MensRights23/02/26 05:30 PM
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Opting out has always been the path of the man who has become awakened. Men of all cultures and nations came to their own independent conclusion of this path through simple observation and intuition. This happened throughout all of human history, but these men were forgotten by society as there was no means or point of documenting it before the internet. You have to remember that the gene pool is only of the men who procreated. Just like sperm, it's the normal path of nature for the average man …
/r/MensRights23/02/26 05:19 PM
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I gotta be honest to you as another asian man. Maybe 50 years ago, a guy like you could have led a normal life and find a loving partner who was loyal. Nowadays, especially if you are in the West it's game over. Although sentiments on asian men are slowly changing (eg. Kpop, asian man as a superhero, not always perceived as the nerd)....the odds are still stacked against you. Even if you are in the East, it's impossible unless you were wealthy or had something very special (eg. top 1%). How tall…
/r/MensRights23/02/26 05:05 PM
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White boomers had the easiest life experience in general. I cannot think of any time in history for ANY culture/race/demographic of people of which life was easier. You generally just had to show up, not be a complete moron, and you'd be set for life.
/r/MensRights19/02/26 09:08 AM
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Me too, the guy has punchable face and has such an arrogant demeanor. Many of these guys represent the worst of the pull yourself by the bootstraps attitude by the boomer generation.
/r/MensRights19/02/26 09:04 AM
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Sorry to hear this but unfortunately your experience is nothing new. These in person dating events are pretty much a waste of time for anyone who is a 7 or below. The women that go to these are usually nothing special themselves but these events amplify the real life social heirarchy. Men often are able to look at themselves and be realistic with where they stand. If you are short, not so good in looks, AND work a terrible job... I would say it's better to focus your mental energy on being conte…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 08:53 AM
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20's is pretty much a write off for the average man, you might as well just focus on working on yourself. Your options are going to open up more in your 30's and 40's, but the challenge then is you'll be dealing with older women who have been with multiple partners and the baggage that comes from that. A single woman past 30 is pretty much a write off in terms of wife material. So even if your options open up, you have to ask yourself the question...am I really willing to take seriously a woman …
/r/MensRights21/01/26 01:09 PM
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And single moms. Do not fall for it.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 12:59 PM
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Men inherently have no value and have to work to build value. Women are born with value, their challenge is to maintain that value as long as possible. Problem is that feminism has effectively convinced the west the 2nd part is not true to avoid accountability. So without shame, women have been free to do whatever without consequences. Like being single moms.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 03:52 PM
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The institutions are so corrupt from DEI, but I don't think so because most of them don't do any real work other than creating red tape. If the DEI folks were suddenly removed from education and corporations, these organizations may actually function better.
/r/MensRights08/01/26 01:51 PM
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The elites love asians for being obedient, hard working, and reliable. Occasionally one may even make it to middle management, provided he plays golf and can drink. But asians generally never make it to upper management or director level. In academia, asians do make it quite high up in education as long as it pertains to the sciences. But they usually have no hand in anything pertaining to policy or social issues.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 06:17 PM
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That's pretty much every western country. It's the poor and uneducated migrants that will keep popping out the babies. These folks also tend to work minimum wage or cash jobs. So guess who gets to get their taxes increased to pay for the extra burden of such social services and subsidies.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 06:10 PM
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That's just to make it to the first job interview. You could still not meet other requirements, like having the wrong star sign.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 06:07 PM
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Major cities in countries like China I would say are more advanced than the average western major city as this point, and reflects a bit of foreshadowing on what's to come. Atleast with regards to the social and economic pressure that affect the average person due to hyper competition. They are further along the path than us and we can already see the effects. Basically, the men there have come to the same conclusion which is that opting out and not playing the game is the only logical choice. N…
/r/MensRights07/01/26 05:56 PM
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They are just angry now they aren't getting the same attention as before due to men waking up. Every guy they've ghosted, ignored, rejected, or played around with. It's all been adding up for years and only recently started to hit a critical point. If a woman wants a husband, it's actually VERY easy to get if she wanted. It's just that they cannot control their own emotions.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 03:53 PM
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Men don't usually realize until they are able to get around their natural emotions and to be able to think with a clear mind. This is why older women have problems securing commitment, because the older they are, the older the man they qualify for. And those men think with clarity. The trick to have locked down a man was to get him tied down and committed no later than his mid 30's.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 03:38 PM
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They want to you put in emotional effort, but how can you knowing they've got a roster of other dudes doing the same thing and are mostly just getting everyone to price match so that she can see which is the better deal.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 12:16 PM
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China (and other asian countries like Japan/Korean) is every bit as modern of a society as the cities in the west. The result of that is that the educated asian woman is just as intolerable as the average modern western woman and exhibits the same behavioral characteristics, unrealistic expectations, and etc. In fact, since most of them are the only child, there is usually a good chance they experience princess syndrome.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 12:14 PM
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I'm glad to be an engineer where it's predominantly men. In any team where there were more than a handful of women...was always a nightmare to work in. There was always social tension in regular interactions and a subtle hierarchy based on social aspects rather than actual competency. I've now learned that the workplace is a place to get stuff done and collect a paycheck, not for social interactions.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 12:09 PM
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The average man's experience is being told he is expected to put in both emotional and financial effort, only to experience constant rejection and ghosting in his 20's, while seeing his crush walk off with some other dude. On top of that, he has to overcome a broken economic system, of which each step of the way is a fight. From getting the first job, to climbing the BS corporate ladder, and building assets. Then in his 30's if he's lucky and has established himself, if he does manage to find a …
/r/MensRights07/01/26 12:03 PM
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What's even worse is that the men that DO have the right values and capabilities to raise the next generation which would positively contribute to society, are not the ones partnering up to have families. It's like the movie Idiocracy playing out in real time.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 11:51 AM
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It's not necessary to 50/50 and count the pennies on everything cost wise, but it's moreso what's the agreement on splitting contributions. Not just financial but things like chores, cooking, etc. This is the logical answer, but in reality very few women are actually ok with going 50/50 on expenses during dating and expect the guy to step up. In their mind, they are testing how willing and capable the man is at being a provider. Which most guys would normally be ok with, EXCEPT that in current t…
/r/MensRights23/08/25 01:15 PM
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Chasing comforts atleast gets you something, usually. Even though too much of it could arguably be bad. The problem with chasing women in today's market is that anyone half decent already has many other suitors, so you're investing time, money, and mental energy into something of which you are likely going to fail at. And especially if you are not a top tier man, failure is almost guaranteed. Lastly, even if you do the whole song and dance, and come out on top... you have to maintain that standa…
/r/MensRights17/08/25 01:21 PM
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It's not that men don't want to get married, but the fact that each step of the way is an uphill battle. Just trying to get a girl's attention is hard enough as it is with their crazy expectations. Any average woman could VERY easily lock down a man and get him to do whatever she wants if they wanted to. All it takes is a little genuine appreciation and respect, but most of them will stubbornly do their girl boss thing until the very end.
/r/MensRights15/08/25 09:35 PM
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Except that feminists will do all sort of mental gymnastics to escape logic. You could have $1M in the bank as a plumber, but they'll still think their corporate executive assistant job that pays $50k/year along with -$200k in the hole from college debt is still somehow more prestigious because they get to dress up in business casual and work in an ivory tower drinking Starbucks everyday.
/r/MensRights15/08/25 09:30 PM
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They can write as much of these articles as they want, but society and the leaders largely don't care about men's wellbeing unless it's affecting their bottom line. Of which the effects are going to start trickling in from all these men checking out. In China the government feels the "Laying Flat" movement is of a sufficient threat that they censor all mention or discussion of such ideology.
/r/MensRights15/08/25 09:27 PM
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Do you have family or a partner? The problem with that kind of schedule it that it makes it almost impossible to try to establish regular social interactions or relationships, especially if you're a young male. It's already hard enough as it is to try and have a social circle or date. Unless you don't care and have decided to opt out entirely, of which then it doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights15/08/25 09:24 PM
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You'd get in trouble with your teachers/boss/HR, so most people just keep quiet. Most people see through the nonsense in school and work, but usually the backlash is far too great when it comes to speaking out against it. Plus, usually the woke DEI feminist stuff usually starts small and is harmless, so it's often times not worth the backlash even if you were to poke fun at it.
/r/MensRights15/08/25 09:21 PM
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Not just tax benefits but being single is usually cheaper for men. Vice versa for women.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 05:46 PM
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It's not that men don't want to find a partner. In fact men have always been willing to go to extreme lengths for a partner, often times at great risk and sacrifice. Now, it's clear that modern women simply aren't worth it. Men simply want to feel respected, of which most modern women are incapable of genuinely providing unconditionally.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 02:24 PM
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When you get a bunch of snarky middle aged women put together in any workforce, it's a disaster. I think part of it is because they know they are aging out and have hit the wall, but still like to try and relive their glory years of being young and attractive in school so they bring the same sort of attitude to the workplace to get attention and validation.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 02:32 AM
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It's a bit of a double standard then that women can make allegations about men, but men have no avenue to call out her bad behavior or numerous body counts.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 07:43 PM
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The idea of a virtuous woman is probably in reality just as much of a fantasy as the tall, rich, good looking bad boy that can be tamed into settling for a 6/10 woman and they live happily every after. What has changed now is the free flow of information where men can share experiences about their interactions with women. I really do think men didn't know any better in previous generations, hence many of them rushing into marriages. Before, a woman could escape her past hence the phenomenon of a…
/r/MensRights25/07/25 07:42 PM
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The problem is good behavior and virtuous women are extremely rare nowadays. As a guy trying to date, it's almost like trying to understand what red flags you are willing to work with or put up with.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 04:45 AM
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Can men also make the same allegations against women, or is it one sided?
/r/MensRights25/07/25 04:40 AM
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Misandry isn't even considered a real word in the eyes of institutions and mainstream media.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 06:01 PM
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Men don't actually want to be red pilled, it's moreso a consequence of them observing the behaviors of women around them and how they are being treated. Ironically the schools, media, and instituitions would never dare to suggest that maybe girls are under some pretty bad (feminist) influences. I would really hate having to raise kids in today's environment.
/r/MensRights15/07/25 11:17 AM
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It's really terrifying to see this happen to people you think are lifers together. What's scary is that a woman could truly love a man, but all it takes is her emotions to change for whatever reason. It could be from boredom, to being on social media too much, or having the wrong influence from other women (feminists) that lead her to question her life path. Usually there would be signs though. Like her suddenly spending more time at work, her spending more time with her single cat lady bitter f…
/r/MensRights08/07/25 06:17 PM
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Single moms all claim to be strong independent while conveniently leaving out the fact their lifestyle is propped up by child support/alimony.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 02:42 PM
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I am an engineer in Canada and our governing body has an entire DEI group of which one of their mandates is to have 30% of engineers be women by 2030. There are even investment funds that solely invest only in women owned businesses. I don't see how this isn't considered outright discrimination at this point.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 02:36 PM
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I can pretty much guarantee you it's way easier for the average women at home to cheat when her husband is not around than a deployed soldier. The woman is surrounded by temptation whereas the solider is most likely in the middle of nowhere surrounded by dudes. Any female serving in the military is also bound to be getting non stop attention, as typical of being a female in a male dominated field.
/r/MensRights20/06/25 05:52 PM
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Imagine your last moments bleeding out in pain in the middle of nowhere in some muddy field and alone with regrets filling the mind. I don't see any glory or honor in that.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 04:19 AM
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Many of these tales have been lost or hidden in time throughout history. Who knows how much worse it could have been, we just never had the means to share this info or document it. It was not only women being unfaithful while their men risked their lives, but even in invaded countries women would be quick to abandon their men for the oppressors if it meant they could have a better life. They sell you the lie that fighting for your country is some sort of honor, but you're just a pawn. Both the E…
/r/MensRights18/06/25 03:05 PM
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IMO it's important to look at the whole financial picture and not just home ownership as a sign of success. Women tend to be poor at saving & investing, as well as accumulating a ton of debt. They can claim to be strong independent, but there are also no shortage of bailout options that women can exploit. Free food from dates, car/home repairs from their male friends, travels, and etc... As a guy, imagine you lose your house to an ex, of which she's going to be quickly bringing over a roster of …
/r/MensRights13/06/25 12:01 AM
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I think that sounds like fear mongering. The vast majority of men don't get falsely accused of anything. You just have to be careful with your words and actions. Ruining your life in such a substantial way to mitigate such a small risk is kind of silly.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 08:28 PM
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It's not that I haven't had an opportunity for long term relationships, but time and time again it's proven to be not worth it. Not sure if I'm just selfish and risk adverse but you almost always have to give more unconditionally and not get the same in return when it is with modern women. Men naturally want to be respected from being useful and as providers. But nothing ever seems to be good enough, so choosing peace seems to be the natural path. The juice isn't worth the squeeze is a common sa…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 11:55 AM
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I guarantee that your quality of life is going to be worse off in pretty mucn every way if you decide to be trans. Being a man or woman comes with different pros and cons. Men and women have different challenges and stresses in life. Being trans means you get none of the pros, only the cons.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 11:44 AM
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A feminine, supportive, and nurturing woman adds immense value to a man and can motivate him to achieve things he never would have thought possible. This has always been the spark that kept society moving forwards. Too bad Western women don't understand this and are more of a liability these days than an asset.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 02:22 AM
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I mean instinctively. I'm not going to say that all men go out of their way to be providers, but in the case of family or let's say you got someone pregnant...most guys probably would step up and try their best to take some responsibility. Guys seek respect, which comes from accomplishing something, being relied upon, or being useful. These are all forms of being a provider. This is what's lacking today. Women complain about men not meeting their delusional standards of what being a provider ent…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 02:21 AM
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I think men are wired to want to be providers to women because we seek purpose and respect. But nowadays, we don't get any respect and instead are always being fed the notion that nothing we do is good enough. The incentives and reward simply aren't worth it anymore. You're having to put in exponential effort in to meet a modern woman's dellusional expectations, of which there is no reciprocality. This is also for a woman that's been run through, and will jump on the apps to have a new roster of…
/r/MensRights11/06/25 11:03 AM
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Men have very simple requirements and are wired to want to be providers for a woman. All you have to do is be pleasant to look at, be nice (feminine), and virtuous (not having been with a lot of dudes). If you possess those things, a woman can easily lock down a man who will happily provide AND improve himself for her. But seemingly that is too much to ask for. Modern women now have high body counts, are hard to deal with, and rather wait at the finish line for Chad rather than working with some…
/r/MensRights11/06/25 10:57 AM
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The woke left is all about empathy and tolerance for under represented groups and minorities. Except when it's low status and socially awkward males. Then in that case it's ok to make fun of them by calling them incels because they are creeps.
/r/MensRights09/06/25 09:35 PM
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IMO red pill for men is the equivalent of females proudly proclaiming to be feminists. Both terms are extreme on either side but why is it that we shame one term while considering the other as empowering? This is the double standard that is being questioned.
/r/MensRights09/06/25 07:25 PM
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Ideally yes, but there is always some simp or blue pilled dude that will give in. Just look on social media like Facebook or Instagram. Any public group where an attractive girl posts for help or some thirst trap picture and there is no shortage of random dudes leaving messages as if they had any chance. "Hey beautiful"
/r/MensRights03/06/25 03:44 AM
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Men really aren't marrying at 25. No girl is taking a mid 20's guy seriously, but they'll play around with him and accept being wined and dined. It's moreso that girls are spending their 20's and even early 30's playing the field not wanting to be tied down. By the time they are ready to be serious, they obviously want someone older and more established so that puts the suitors to be mid 30's at minimum. Men in this age range have either been so burnt out and jaded from being played that they ar…
/r/MensRights01/06/25 10:03 PM
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As a guy, it's actually refreshing to see woman make the first move. However the problem is that the sort of women that do that have more masculine qualities and are potentially raging feminists (because they believe in equality and being strong independent). It's also a trap because regardless of if a woman is feminine or masculine, secretly inside they are wired to want the man to be the provider so trying to bypass this programming results in a paradox in their emotions.
/r/MensRights01/06/25 02:32 AM
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They don't because they are surrounded by so much validation that it corrupts their mind. They have warped their mind into thinking there are so many options such that if there's something they don't like about one man, there's always someone better around the corner.
/r/MensRights01/06/25 02:30 AM
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I actually think alot of women are starting to become aware of terms like the "manosphere" and "red pill." Them using the term "incel" to shame men is basically one way you can tell of their awareness. The thing is, them using these shaming tactics is actually a reflection of how secretly terrified they are inside of this knowledge. The reason is because as men understand how the game works, this takes power away from women who were previously used to being able to manipulate men to their own be…
/r/MensRights01/06/25 02:28 AM
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He's basically got the same mindset as the typical conversative right wing Christian boomer. He's pretty spot on when it comes to criticizing modern left wing woke DEI ideologies so have to give it to the guy for willing to speak out against that. However, he is still pretty traditional when it comes to believing in marriage and the family unit. I personally think on a fundamental and idealist level it's a good thing. Society needs coherent family units to progress. But modern society has become…
/r/MensRights30/05/25 05:39 PM
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In western institutions (education and workplace) you are allowed to criticize men but cannot do the same for women without getting into trouble.
/r/MensRights29/05/25 06:16 PM
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This is a prime example of institutionalized brainwashing and gate keeping. You can't challenge their view. It's not even a real science that has a right or wrong answer. It's even more outrageous because you PAID money for this course, so if you go against the norm you are just burning money to fail. And likely if you tried to complain you may get into even more trouble.
/r/MensRights28/05/25 12:35 PM
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What obsession. Men are just staying they don't value women with high body counts. Every man you've been with adds extra trauma. When you buy a car do you prefer a new one or used? It's simple.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 11:49 PM
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Most men don't fetish about getting a virgin. We understand things don't always work out but there's a difference between a woman who has had a few partners, versus taking home to his mom the village bicycle. It's shameful.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 09:44 PM
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Naw, in the day of social media any 35 year old woman with an average picture can post an intro saying she's single (on any of the various social/adventure/travel groups) and be hit with a dozen replies from simps. A guy posting the same will have zero replies.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 05:04 PM
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Being a single mom is the ultimate form of failure as a woman, and traditionally served as a warning to young women of how not to fuck up your life. In principle, a single mom is the female equivalent of an unemployed 40 year old balding guy living in mom's basement playing video games all day. However, one is called strong independent and the other as a loser. Ironically, the single mom requires to be propped up by all sort of social services whereas the guy keeps to himself, supported by mom, …
/r/MensRights27/05/25 05:02 PM
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The past matters, but unfortunately in this day and age anyone who is a 5 and above, or over the age of 30 is going to have gone through multiple men and not virtuous. They are all emotionally traumatized in varying levels so it's moreso how much you are willing to put up with because the only other option is to be alone and opt out entirely. This is why even if you do find someone at this point, never marry because you are exposing yourself to certain inevitable risks.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 03:59 PM
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You literally cannot say bad things about women without getting in trouble. Say the same thing about a man and it's called empowerment.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 03:52 PM
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The other problem is by being surrounded by validation in their youth, when reality hits as they get older they still cling onto that feeling from back in the day. Not only do their expectations rise with age, but they also feel bored by normal good men. Hence they keep chasing excitement and further putting themselves in a situation where they attract drama and further trauma.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 03:51 PM
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Women in the West aren't feminine, period. This includes Chinese women with traditional upbringings. When I visited China (as a Chinese guy) the attitudes were way different there. But women from China have a whole host of other issues and IMO are ruined in their own ways. The Chinese leftover women phenomenon is a foreshadow of what Western women will eventually end up as. Agreed on having money. Money won't turn them feminine, but it at least establishes some respect.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 03:27 AM
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This is a difficult one. With women in the workplace, they have already made up their mind about you within the first day of interaction and changing any preconceived biases they may have about you is extremely difficult. Women can sense weak men from a mile away and they have a natural affinity to powerful men, even if they are assholes. In most social situations, ignoring narcissists is the best way to take away their power...but in the workplace you cannot always do that since it's an environ…
/r/MensRights27/05/25 02:26 AM
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I'm an engineer in Canada and our regulatory board has an entire DEI department, of which one of the mandates is to have 30% of engineers as women by 2030. There are also investment funds that are marketed as investing in women run/owned businesses only. Tell me again how the patriarchy exists in modern times...
/r/MensRights26/05/25 01:45 AM
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Asian countries are already way farther along than us in the West in this regards. Everyone KNOWS it's a problem, but the women just double down on their delusions because they think they will be the exception. Hence the phenomenon in China of older leftover women despite the fact that the country has a surplus of men. The logical conclusion for men has been to simply opt out by laying flat. A term of which the Chinese government bans in online discussions.
/r/MensRights23/05/25 06:34 PM
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When I was a young student, I didn't know any better and was looking into the easiest GPA booster classes since it was mandatory to pick option classes ontop of engineering classes. These classes are 100% brainwashing and I can guarantee you pretty much cannot critique or deviate from the lecturer's "feelings" or what the institution considers as the proper mindset otherwise you will get poor grades from being a misogynist. Try challenging the concept of patriarchy in one of these classes and se…
/r/MensRights23/05/25 06:28 PM
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Some women do start to see modern men's issues when they start having sons. They can be all strong independent all they want, but when it's their sons/brothers bringing home a single mom or the town bicycle and saying he wants to wife her up....what do you think she's going to say?
/r/MensRights23/05/25 06:24 PM
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I have always struggled with this one. While yes in principle...there are only a very small amount of women that can have this conversation in an adult and logical manner. It's very similar to the prenup conversation. Ironically, the older more mature women who HAVE earned their money are more understanding of this. But older women have all sort of other emotional issues to deal with beyond money. Younger women (sub 35) are almost always delusional to try to talk finances with. If you are a man …
/r/MensRights22/05/25 04:18 PM
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Absolutely, but from a purely attraction standpoint a 9/10 is going to immediately attract the man. A man cannot assess wife qualities within the first 5 seconds of meeting. There is a minimum acceptable attraction level for every man. If there was a 3/10 woman who is perfect wife material in every metric except looks, most men would still pass on that. What's interesting about these boss babe types is their inflated egos aren't necessarily even tied to financial success. Nowadays every girl wit…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 02:44 PM
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If you can get her to chip in 30% that's already a win. Although you have to be subtle about it and not "directly" bring it up in a quantitative manner.
/r/MensRights22/05/25 02:35 PM
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You'll quickly forget the insulting feeling of taxes when you see how much of those support payments actually ends up to the child. Women usually spend most of that money on themselves and their lifestyles (eating out, travelling, etc).
/r/MensRights22/05/25 09:24 AM
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While I agree with the OP's desire for actual gender equality, this is just a pipedream because that's not how real life works or how women are wired. Women see men of the same level as invisible unless they have some very outstanding quality like their height or looks. Men don't care about how successful their partner is, but they usually end up dating down because that's the sort of women that can accept them. A "lower" woman is easier to deal with than a boss babe. Of course a guy would be mo…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 09:08 AM
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I see no issue with women entering STEM if that's what they are passionate about and good at it. The problem is all this DEI crap pushing their various agendas, mandates, and unfair advantages. I am an engineer governed by an association here in Canada where they literally have an entire diversity team whose goal it is to have the engineering workforce be 30% women by 2030. Like how do they even come up with crap. Then there's all the women focused groups, some of which only invest in women owne…
/r/MensRights21/05/25 05:25 PM
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This usually occurs from attractive women as the uglier ones can sympathize. The lens from which they view it is based on: Their life experience is such that they have always received praise and validation naturally due to their looks. They don't understand that the vast majority of men are invisible. Their definition of "men" is usually in relation to those they notice as being men. eg: leaders, bosses, those who stand out
/r/MensRights20/05/25 06:24 PM
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Actually that is a good point. Also various maternity benefits, and the fact that women tend to have lower retirement ages. So what I meant to say is, there really are no laws that discriminate minorities and women.
/r/MensRights20/05/25 05:45 PM
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For the most part, modern Western societies are very equal from both a race and sex perspective. There are no institutionalized laws that say women or some ethnic minority...cannot own property or whatnot. Even Eastern societies are too these days, despite the propaganda you see in the media. I think when modern feminists accuse the patriarchy of being unfair, they also fail to leave out the part where with rights also comes responsibility. A man may own the business, but he was also responsible…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 05:04 PM
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Let's not forget all the social services and handouts given to single moms. And then all the indirect costs that go into dealing with the future criminals that get raised from broken families. But of course no one would dare try to put a number on this.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 04:42 PM
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Men in Asia have already long come to this conclusion. For a man to become successful in this day and age, his chances are very slim. But for those who do somewhat make it, it takes time and sacrifice. Often times taking until his late 30's or 40's at the earliest to achieve the bare minimum of what modern women consider "acceptable." Of which by this time, he's already likely gone through so much rejection and games that he's no longer willing to tolerate the shenanigans. At this age, he is als…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 04:36 PM
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I'm Chinese Canadian, recently in China so I'll comment on what I've noticed. There's a guy on Youtube "Chinese Historian" who goes into excellent detail the nuances of what's happening in China as well as in the West. Firstly, China (and most developed Asian cities) are insanely competitive. It applies to all areas of daily life, not just career wise but also dating. Due to the one child policy, there is a large imbalance in the male to female ratio. However, despite the abundance of men, there…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 04:12 PM
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Agreed 100% on this. If there's an unlimited sperm bank, it also sends the message to women that they can spend their youths partying, jumping around partners, and not having to take on any responsibility because there will be a bailout plan later such that they canhave kids whenever they feel ready. Also, I don't consider this opting out as you are still providing the means for the next generation of wage slaves to be born. If you really wanted to stick it to the man, you'd just walk away and o…
/r/MensRights15/05/25 11:39 AM
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It's a free market, there is no such thing as being fair. The problem is women naturally seek validation and today they get so much attention that it contributes to their dellusions and unrealistic expectations. I can see how it could be argued that in a sense, it's not their fault as it is human nature. This is why pretty women are crazy and by 30 she's likely mentally damaged beyond repair. A less attractive women probably has a far greater change at being able to maintain a stable relationshi…
/r/MensRights15/05/25 11:35 AM
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Where in SE Asia? In most major and modern Asian cities the women have the same dellusions as their Western counter parts. That's why there's this phenomenon of leftover women in China. I would say that they do tend to atleast behave slightly better than Western women as they take family influences a bit more serious and are more reserved in public. Such as being shamed to not be a single mom. Whereas Western women just do not hold out at all and do what they want + are loud.
/r/MensRights14/05/25 05:44 PM
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Except they don't realize this and will double down and take their dellusions with them to their deathbeds.
/r/MensRights14/05/25 05:25 PM
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Correction: they prefer to get banged up by drug dealers, musicians, and criminals... then at 35+ when they realize how expensive life is and all their friends are dating professionals, that they want a doctor/lawyer/engineer to bail them out.
/r/MensRights09/05/25 02:37 PM
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This perfectly summarizes it. Cost of living aside, the value of your labor is taxed to death and wasted on who knows what. Foreign wars, DEI initiatives, funding to empower girlboss CEOs, and single moms.
/r/MensRights09/05/25 02:32 PM
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It's not only Western but Eastern countries. Hence the "laying flat" movement in China by youths which the government is desperately trying to censor. Before, nations could get people into these boring/low paid jobs by dangling an incentive like owning a house or citizenship. It was reliant on immigrants, or importing rural folks (China) into the cities. But now there is a shortage of suckers willing to buy into the dream because it's a sham.
/r/MensRights09/05/25 02:29 PM
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Pay aside, trades also has some of the most toxic work environments due to boomer bosses.
/r/MensRights09/05/25 02:22 PM
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Yup, I had a friend who's relationship seemed fine and they even bought a house together. After just a weekend of her hanging out with some divorced 60s psychologist who marketed herself as a specialist on relationships... guess what. She suddenly had a relevation and decided to follow her emotions. Lost the house, now she's renting, and wont be able to get back on the property market due to the crazy appreciation recently. Entirely self sabotaging.
/r/MensRights09/05/25 10:55 AM
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I am an asian so very well aware of the phenomenon. It's known for asians from poorer countries like Vietnam and Filippines to entice some dumb foreigner (usually an older white guy who was a loser in his country) for citizenship, bringing the whole family over, and generally getting milked. Even if the family does not come over, prepare to have to atleast contribute financially. What's really funny is at first they won't get you to pay directly. It will be moreso she sends money back home from …
/r/MensRights08/05/25 12:34 PM
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It's more of a modern woman problem. Women are wired the same due to biology, but what differs with the East is more traditional family values to somewhat pressure them against doing something stupid (eg. being a single mom) . But I can guarantee you a modern Chinese woman has the same dellusions as her Western counterpart.
/r/MensRights08/05/25 09:45 AM
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Women have no hesitation to self sabotage and destroy everything they worked for on a whim due to emotion alone. This could be triggered by anything such as: - Hanging out with other divorcees - Advice from a medium reading/therapist/astrology charts - A brief interaction with a random guy who they suddenly feel a "vibe" with and belief that the universe intended their paths to cross - General manifestations This is why if a guy decides to marry, a pre nup is absolutely required.
/r/MensRights08/05/25 08:47 AM
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How risky is common law in Canada? eg. could a guy really stand to lose his house or significant assets? I would have thought there should be some common sense involved...
/r/MensRights05/05/25 12:55 PM
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With the internet, people are able to better and freely share information which is resulting in men realizing the same conclusion of the juice not being worth the squeeze. It's happening in both the East and West. In Asian countries, the competitiveness is even worse, leading men to realize that not playing the game is the only solution. No one wants to be alone. Men are wired to seek purpose and fulfilment in being able to support and provide for their families. But feminism has cause a mentali…
/r/MensRights05/05/25 10:44 AM
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Reddit is insanely hostile to anyone with renotely conservative views. You'd be instantly associated with the Trump supporting MAGA types and instantly assumed to be some sort of bigot/misogynist/racist.
/r/MensRights15/04/25 04:08 AM
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Single moms are the biggest grifters. Not only in terms of the leeching of taxpayer money through social services, but also the harm to society caused by raising the next generation of criminals. Just wait until child support starts running out for the current batch of single moms as they hit retirement age with health problems. And yet it's the quiet man that keeps to himself playing video games that is being accused of harming society.
/r/MensRights14/04/25 12:21 PM
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The Ukraine ministry of defense posting this outrageous video basically using women to shame men into serving: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1jkcznx/ua_pov_new_motivational_video_to_mobilize/ For the record, I'm not for or against either side. You bet your ass Russian women would be quick to leave their men for greener pastures elsewhere no different than what Ukrainian women are doing right now.
/r/MensRights13/04/25 03:18 AM
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This exactly. Most women are not raging feminists that practice outright deliberate misandry. But the problem is the effects of feminism has trickled down into many aspects of social behavior and societal expectations in subtle ways. These effects can manifest in seemingly innocent ways like poking jokes about creeps/incels/etc. To outright discrimination in the workforce through the various initiatives to promote women only spaces, or having quotas for % of women in certain positions. It's gott…
/r/MensRights06/04/25 05:51 PM
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How's your height? For men, unless you are borderline deformed and below 5'6" it is possible to atleast elevate yourself by a few points by looking after yourself. If you fall under the two categories above, then it will definitely be challenging but you could date someone similar. One has to be realistic with where they stand.
/r/MensRights05/04/25 02:41 AM
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If you are an average to moderately attractive female, you can go anywhere in the world and live comfortably if you wanted to. Those opportunities do not exist for men in the same way. Even many of us who may be established in our fields...are one "rightsizing" away from having to start from scratch. So how's that for equality and the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 07:29 PM
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I'm in Canada and it's very common to see very attractive well dressed Ukrainian women at business/investor events who come for "networking." I later discovered they are often there to try to find a rich bf/husband. This has nothing to do with politics of either side, you can bet your ass Russian women would be doing the same thing if given the chance.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 06:37 PM
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I posted a video here from the Ukraine Ministry of Defense social media channel where they are seemingly using shaming tactics from women effectively calling the men cowards. But the post got deleted and I got called a pro Russian shill from some Ukrainian guy here. Men are being sent to the meat grinder on both sides of any conflict to die for leaders who don't even know their names. I'm neither for or against either side...you can bet your ass that if given the opportunity the women of any cou…
/r/MensRights28/03/25 06:35 PM
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It's from the Ukraine ministry of defense social media account. The account looks pretty legit. You can see the watermark and go to their Tik Tok/Instagram. It's pro Ukraine content on there, I don't see anything pro Russian about it.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 12:22 AM
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Here in Canada, at various business/investor focused events where there are successful high net worth men present, it's common to see very attractively dressed Ukraine women. They are here to look for rich boyfriends and husbands. In any war torn country you can bet the women would be fleeing to do the exact same thing. Men should remember that before buying into any propaganda about loyalty to your nation.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 10:17 PM
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Unfortunately that does seem like a legit government Tik Tok account. Also that guy is featured in their Instagram for seemingly PR purposes as well.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 09:38 PM
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This is all fine and dandy, until they introduce conscription. To fight a war for those at the top who never get their hands dirty, and are part of a huge industrial complex that enriches their buddies. I think people are more educated now due to the internet, but before, you would have been socially shamed for being a coward for not wanting to fight. Or look at Ukraine where men are literally kidnapped against their will to be thrown in a meat grinder, while their women at home flee the country…
/r/MensRights13/03/25 10:54 PM
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Yup, most modern nations these days, both East and West, are headed towards self destruction. And it's happening at a pace far quicker than the downfall of the Roman empire. The family unit is really the core of society, and without it, people aren't motivated to do good for the future.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 10:51 PM
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Yup, all nations sell the lie to its people that fighting for your country is somehow honorable. Both the East and the West lie and brainwash their populations to think that the other is the enemy. Nowadays the youth can't even buy housing, let alone have any vested interest in the country. So why bother fighting for it. That's why botn East and Western armied are having issues recruiting.
/r/MensRights11/03/25 02:34 PM
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Maybe 20 years ago, the passport bro could score someone from a rural village and do that. But these days all the decent women have long left the villages and go to cities, where they are corrupted by social media and have the same "modern women" problem as in the west. Things aren't cheap in the developed Asian cities anymore. The modern equivalent to cows are shiny new downtown apartments, cars, and business loans. This will quickly bankrupt even someone making a decent western income.
/r/MensRights09/03/25 01:09 PM
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I'm Chinese and unfortunately this video isn't even exaggerating the behavior of many modern Chinese women. I'm no where near this guy's wealth, but I am a low key millionaire in my 30's. It's actually quite difficult finding someone genuine, and all my male friends share similar experiences with dating asian women. All these passport bros thinking going to an asian country to find a wife are out of their minds. Asian women are extremely intelligent when it comes to manipulating men. It's a soci…
/r/MensRights09/03/25 05:07 AM
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This is pretty much how Trump won. I think he's an idiot and would hate being in the same room as him, but he's tapped into the male audience who have largely been ignored. Men have long been considered as disposable and only valued based on what they can provide. Which I'm perfectly ok with, because as a guy you want to be useful and that is the traditional social contract. But we encounter resistance and disrespect at each stage of the way. Not only are women disrespectful to us, but society a…
/r/MensRights05/03/25 09:10 PM
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LOL we are so alike. The boomers around me also think I'm a top performer, working hard and delivering results. The reality is I just leverage various tools to work more efficiently. Pushing for remote work has been a game changer since it makes it so much easier detaching from corporate politics. I only really do maybe 10-20 hrs of real work in a week. In meetings I only need to pay attention to the parts relevant for me, otherwise Im looking at cat videos or browsing FB marketplace for deals.
/r/MensRights27/02/25 01:36 PM
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I'd work in a coal mine at minimum wage if I knew I had a loving family to come home to. I honestly don't care about having a nice house, material possession, and all that crap. I mean, I'm not complaining about the wealth I've built, but it's also kind of lonely having no one appreciative to spend that on. Heck, I actually WANT to treat women to nice things and experiences...it's just that there is always some agenda and you know the moment the gravy train stops they'll treat you like garbage. …
/r/MensRights27/02/25 04:44 AM
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TBH, I'm already tired of the corporate BS and I'm ready to retire by 40. Having kids would mean I'd have to stick it out longer. If I had a loyal and loving wife to come home to it would be worth it. But who are we kidding, that's fantasy land. The other challenge is that in traditional asian culture, bringing up prenup is pretty much taboo. You'll get reamed by her family, and she'll probably leave to find someone else. Unless you are some sort of Chad, she will always think she can do better.…
/r/MensRights26/02/25 10:44 PM
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This is my problem too. Mid 30's, low key millionaire. If I were to find someone, chances are they'd have much less assets than me. I don't really care about how much $$ the other person has, and if anything I prefer not to be with those super ambitious boss babe types. But still, bringing up how we'd treat the assets and having the prenup chat will almost always offend women. If anything, I would actually love to be able to share my assets, but only if the other person was there from the beginn…
/r/MensRights26/02/25 04:57 PM
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Same here. No one wants it, but when the dating landscape is a minefield of red flags...then the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 04:34 PM
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The only winners are lawyers and the children always lose out. Traditionally, marriage was a life vow and the words "for better or worse" really meant something. But now, marriages are treated like cell phone contracts....something that can be cancelled if a better deal comes along. Now a woman could just "not feel like it" one day due to her emotions and call for a divorce. When I was a kid in school, it was very rare to see a classmate being from a single parent household. Now, it seems like a…
/r/MensRights22/02/25 03:58 PM
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Men have, and always has been viewed as disposable. Men are only valued for their resource and what they can provide. This applies not only to women, but society as a whole. As a man, the only unconditional love is from your parents and maybe siblings.
/r/MensRights22/02/25 05:02 AM
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If a guy is destroyed by the courts to the point of no return, this is exactly what they should do. Liquidate everything into crypto (including maxing out all loans), don't pay taxes, and GTFO the country.
/r/MensRights20/02/25 07:50 PM
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Most people think Trump is an idiot, but they'll still vote for him out of spite for the Democrats. All the talking heads can't seem to understand why men are turning more conservative. It's because the Democrats are a representation of how modern society has been trashing men. Woke agendas, DEI crap, feminism, the list goes on.
/r/MensRights19/02/25 03:27 AM
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It's alot easier said than done and unfortunately most of that comes down to the hand you're dealt. For any man trapped in the poverty cycle, it's basically a death sentence. When a guy spends 40+ hours a week grinding at a menial job, he has no energy left to expend on bettering himself physically or mentally. So he's just stuck paycheck to paycheck going through the motions. Alot of this is also a function of the social environments and realities created by modern society.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 10:35 PM
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Realistically, mandating DNA testing without some way of easing into it would cause mass chaos. It's probably not a good idea to implement, but a good middle ground would be to enforce some sort of accountability for women who commit paternal fraud. Seizure of assets, huge fines, perpetual alimony, and even jailtime.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 03:05 AM
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If you trace anyone's family history far back enough, there is a very good chance we were all descendants of cuckoldry, prostitution, being born out of wedlock, paternal fraud, or other such dark realities.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 03:03 AM
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Morally and ethically there should be consequences as it's one of the worst frauds that can be committed against someone. Serious question: if you were a man who is in a happy 10+ year relationship...would you even want to know? Governments know they cannot mandate DNA testing as it would throw society into chaos. Imagine all the broken families and social issues that would arise from this. Not to mention the financial burden on tax payers to subsidize the monumental amount of social services th…
/r/MensRights17/02/25 10:15 PM
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No one wants to die alone, but when modern marriages are failing at 50%, it's kind of a crapshoot. Writing off decades worth of effort on a whim and still ending up alone, or unknowingly raising someone else's kid for decades....are difficult things to deal with. Perhaps risk mitigation is key. A man can still try to find a partner, but should be managing risk and limiting his commitment unless he's absolutely certain.
/r/MensRights17/02/25 09:54 PM
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Every time I wanted something serious, I was told it was only a situationship. They are always trying to do better, but keep you on the roster as a backup plan. I've straight up asked "ok well since we aren't serious, how about you introduce me to your cute friend?" They'll always get offended for some reason. It's only when they've depreciated and you're the best option, do they then look for commitment. Most normal guys want commitment and don't actually want to waste effort/money going throug…
/r/MensRights17/02/25 06:43 PM
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I'm seeing this play out in my social circle of 30-40's women. Even a 40's single mom will have no problems getting a roster of dudes compared to a normal well put man in his 30s. But they all eventually nope out, or she claims she dumped him because of some obscure fault. Another trend I'm seeing is women dating 10 years younger as some sort of validation to themselves that they are not old. These situations almost never work out either as it's usually insecure/loser/simp guys that would put up…
/r/MensRights17/02/25 05:52 PM
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I can understand a person may go through a few failed relationships. But IMO anything more than half a dozen bodies...counts as a high body count. If they are anything more than a 5/10, it's pretty much guaranteed by 30 she's going to far exceed this. The problem for a guy, is that the higher the body count the less suitable she is for any real commitment like marriage. The more partners she has, the less reliable she is because, what's to say you're any different than the others? It's not that …
/r/MensRights17/02/25 05:21 PM
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I'm an engineer here in Canada which is regulated by APEGA (basically an agency that gate keeps the profession under the guise of ethics and safety). I just discovered they have their own women advisory group whose mandate is to have 30% females in engineering by 2030. Some companies (WSP), due to their woke DEI agendas, even have raises targeted only for women for some sort of gender pay gap equalization. Here in Canada, it's not uncommon for job applications to specifically ask if you are a wo…
/r/MensRights17/02/25 05:06 PM
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Society shames a guy for not being able to get laid, yet those guys are of no threat to anyone and are likely contributing to society like anyone else. We empower single moms who mooch off social services and creates a generation of criminals. You can see why guys are feeling like opting out from such a broken system.
/r/MensRights17/02/25 05:24 AM
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I think the use of the word incel by both men and women as a shaming tactic is problematic. The nerdy guy who is a social hermit because he's been rejected by society due to his looks or economic status just wants to have some basic respect and is not a threat. But society keeps shaming him to a point where he can no longer handle it and that's when he does something extreme.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 03:52 PM
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It could be argued that before, it was worth the hurdle to get a partner that atleast cared about you and stayed by your side. But now, how can you call any relationship as true and genuine if you know that the second you run into a hurdle or breakup that they'll jump on the apps and immediately have a new roster lined up within the week.
/r/MensRights14/02/25 04:55 PM
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You kind of have to just be born with a good hand in terms of genetics and good economic circumstances. For 90% of men, it's an uphill battle and not worth it anymore. All the dating coaches that tell you to just improve your personality or blah blah improves your chances by maybe 5% vs the uncontrolable aspects based on the hand you've been dealt. For the 10% of men that have the good hand, it's also not worth it for them to settle.
/r/MensRights14/02/25 12:19 PM
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Men have been accustomed to accept this sort of disrespect in varying amounts otherwise they are called insecure and intolerant. Anything from talking to exes, to posting thirst traps on social media, or something in general that may put themselves in a comprimising situation. A good man typically doesn't want to waste the efforts they've invested into a relationship, so it's a tough judgement call to make.
/r/MensRights14/02/25 12:11 PM
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There's no such thing as the patriarchy in modern times. I can't think of any laws in a Western nation that give women less rights or priviledges than men. If anything, the laws (marriage) and various social services support women. Men and women have different roles. In the past women may have had less rights but that further put the burden to protect and provide on men. Women tend to only look at successful men as everyone else is invisible, so they forget that the average man suffered just as …
/r/MensRights14/02/25 12:03 PM
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There's societal issues that causes incels and femcels. But IMO a big part of it is physical attractiveness. A person's experiences with regards to how others treat them is probably one of the biggest influences in terms of if they become a social recluse, or if they gain confidence and social standing.
/r/MensRights10/02/25 04:51 PM
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Yes, by all ethical and moral standards. However in practicality the government knows this would cause huge social issues and a financial burden on the state. The massive increase in broken single parent households will result in deadbeat kids eventually becoming criminals and crooks. These kids and the rise in single mothers would be a huge drain on social services, of which your taxes pay for. So realistically, that's why they prefer to keep men in the dark and let them continue to raise and s…
/r/MensRights10/02/25 03:42 PM
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They are driven by emotion, not logic. There's no point trying to argue with a feminist because they'll do all sort of mental gymnastics to justify their point.
/r/MensRights06/02/25 01:38 PM
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Because the people who are usually employed in these types of agencies are the typical woke left feminist types that took useless degrees. Those in STEM are busy solving real problems.
/r/MensRights04/02/25 10:28 PM
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Going to a female therapist is your first mistake. There are very few women that actually understand what being an average man is like. They like to think they are empathetic and understanding (the qualities they are always raging about men lacking), but in reality their idea of what being a man is like is in the lens of the type of men they are attracted to. Average or below average men are quite literally invisible. If you try to contest that, you're called out as being a misogynist and needin…
/r/MensRights01/02/25 03:54 AM
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The internet is making information more accessible and the result of that is young men are thinking critically beyond what they were taught was the proper and expected path. I'm in my 30s and was recently chatting with some young 20s males. What was surprising was that at their age, they were already actively aware of why it was so challenging for them to date and they accused feminism of messing things up. When I was in my 20s, I was largely ignorant of these sort of dynamics. The larger proble…
/r/MensRights31/01/25 09:44 PM
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Being a colored man is probably worse than being a white man. Not trying to pull the racism card or anything, but having an ethnic name will have you treated differently. Even in the dating market, asians will have it way harder than a white man. IMO I think being a man in modern society in general has certain pressures, of which we are all aware of, but it's taboo to publicly bring up. A big part of why young men are becoming more right leaning is because they're faced with social and economic …
/r/MensRights31/01/25 07:28 PM
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Except that through taxes you will always be indirectly bailing out ran through single moms through the various social services.
/r/MensRights31/01/25 04:34 PM
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It's not just the West, but social media and apps have also ruined the dating market in the East. So in general this is contributing to the rapid decline of society. Hard to maintain, let alone form families. There's an entire generation of single lonely men with little motivation to move ahead. The only difference is in the East they tend to do a better job at limiting some of the DEI/LGBT nonsense that has permeated the West. Contrary to the propaganda that is sold to us, people in the East ar…
/r/MensRights31/01/25 04:29 PM
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It's beating a dead horse trying to engage, let alone reason with, a feminist.
/r/MensRights28/01/25 11:31 PM
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It's well known women initiate 2/3 of divorces.
/r/MensRights28/01/25 06:53 PM
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Lol this is basically the same story going on at many other woke Western companies and instituitions. This is also why China is starting to outcompete Western companies in many areas (see: Deepseek) The problem starts from the top and in HR. HR has always been female dominated and has a big role in setting the environment of the corporate workspace. But instead of providing the right motivations for the workforce to do their best, they always have to find something to meddle with to justify thei…
/r/MensRights28/01/25 05:35 PM
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Women will leave men out of boredom, even if it means destroying a household and accumulated assets. Men might get bored of women, but they'll tend to try and make it work because after you've invested time and money towards building something, it's better to try and make it work.
/r/MensRights28/01/25 05:27 PM
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You'll never get realistic stats because emotional cheating happens far more often than people would admit. Women naturally get bored easily and even in a long term relationship that you think is stable... a man always has to be viligant. Just because she hasn't cheated yet, doesn't mean she doesn't have a list of potential suitors, some of which she may actively have a strong emotional bond with and would cheat if given the right circumstances. Eg: the work husband who she shares her stresses w…
/r/MensRights28/01/25 12:13 PM
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Yup it is. Women have unrealistic expectations, but so do guys. The most reliable relationships are those of which the women look up to the man. If you are a 5, dating a 4 is better than a 6. The problem is now women have inflated egos and the 4 thinks she's a 7 with all the attention she gets. So you have to be realistic as to where you stand.
/r/MensRights28/01/25 12:06 PM
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It's an instant turn off to see anything marketed as women/minority/LGBT/insert any other so called minority group owned. Not to mention that businesses that market themselves as women owned are typically terrible to work for (as a guy or gal). It's so incredibly distasteful to be using such marketing but these days it's taboo to speak out against it.
/r/MensRights28/01/25 05:38 AM
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It gets harder over time to change. As a kid I would say I had social anxiety and was fairly awkward. Entering the workforce at 21 was what forced me to get better. I can fake being an extravert now in small bursts and can conduct myself fairly normally with confidence by 30. People have even commented that I seem to know everyone and are well connected. I would say you just have to do things that put yourself outside of your comfort zone. I know it's easier said than done, but it's an uphill ba…
/r/MensRights28/01/25 05:31 AM
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Thank you for the well written words. This is exactly the problem. I do believe that outright cheating is immoral and whoever commits such an act should be heavily penalized (man or woman). But women will leave a man for far less than that. Often times for trivial reasons, of which the woman will go through all sort of mental gymnastics to convince herself that it is the man who is at fault and that it's ok to destroy everything he's worked for. This is why commitment is so hard for most men the…
/r/MensRights28/01/25 05:18 AM
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You've brought up one random and oddly specific anecdote to try and poke flaws at my statement. I never said men don't have flaws, or problems in their previous relationships. This is basically a textbook definition of what to expect from a woman when you bring up a problem or concern. Instead of listening and being empathetic (which women claim they're so good at from all your therapy sessions), you have to twist the topic somehow to be about you and your problems. The topic of discussion is fr…
/r/MensRights26/01/25 07:54 PM
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Men are willing to put up with, and endure alot against diminishing odds if he has a loving family to come home to. Men are wired to find fulfillment in providing and building. Female nature has always been like this. Traditions and societal values kept the worst parts of female nature at bay from destroying everything. Feminism and woke progressive idealogies have reversed thousands of years of learnings, and across different cultures. There is a reason why both East and West cultures have sham…
/r/MensRights26/01/25 10:59 AM
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Trying to date for the average male these days is of diminishing return. Even if he does secure someone after spending significant resource and time into the song and dance, he has to worry about her waking up one day and changing her mind due to her emotions, and ruining everything that he has built. This could happen at any time, possibly decades later. And that is not even touching on the rigged economic system he must endure, further eroding any motivation to productivity.
/r/MensRights26/01/25 10:46 AM
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Dads can't truly discipline these days because the system forces them to be soft and use more empathy. It's a symptom of more woke and left leaning ideologies entering the world of education. Then ontop of that you have many single parent families raising broken families. What's even worse is when single moms raise a generation of broken kids that further perpetuate the cycle.
/r/MensRights18/01/25 03:42 PM
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Fact of the matter is that men and women need each other. No one wants to die alone. But modern women have ruined the natural social contract between men and women, to the detriment of both genders. Without the motivation of women, many men are content with very little and hence you'll see many men opting out of the workforce or productivity to be in secluded peace. Although it is men who create the modern world, it is women who provide the nurturing and motivation for men to continue to do so. …
/r/MensRights16/01/25 07:41 PM
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Feminists represent the worst female characteristics, some of which include delusion and lack of accountability. You do not reason with these people, you will not win regardless of facts and reason. They will double down on their ideologies until the very end when they are bitter single cat ladies. It's just a mental energy blackhole talking to those types.
/r/MensRights16/01/25 07:29 PM
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The modern generation of women are pretty much a writeoff in terms of being soulmate partner potential. But lonliness is a real thing for both genders, and we may get to a point where people just end up settling for each other for emotional and economic means. Which is fine, but as a man just remember to always protect your assets.
/r/MensRights14/01/25 03:53 PM
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I don't actually think it's a modern world thing. Men have always been disposable, it's just that now in modern times we have the technology to talk and share about this stuff on a larger scale. Men have typically just had to deal with it in silence, and those who fall behind are quietly forgotten in history. Men in the past probably had it even worse if anything.
/r/MensRights14/01/25 03:50 PM
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The corporate media has a certain narrative that is being pushed. It's ok to talk about feminism, but men's issues are a taboo. When they DO occasionally touch on the subject, they'll pick some extremist or nutjob to represent the "other" side, with an interview that's carefully crafted to make them look like an idiot. An example would be the r/antiwork movement, which at it's core is people expressing their dissatisfaction with modern workplace culture. Fox News did an interview (search up Dore…
/r/MensRights12/01/25 04:12 PM
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The other problem is they are never held accountable. It's a taboo to teach young women how to behave properly, so the cycle keeps repeating. What you end up with is a bunch of bitter childless strong independent cat ladies at 35+ and they refuse to admit their mistakes, so they double down on the delusion. With no families to focus their attention on, they end up infiltrating corporations, the education system, and the media with their ideologies. Men are typically motivated by having families …
/r/MensRights21/12/24 04:10 PM
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I would've thought with an accounting business, you could always run it from home to keep your overhead minimal. You don't have to immediately go all in. Start it on the side slowly, acquire a few customers, build up your processes, and see where it goes. Then later on as the need arises, then slowly invest in staff, office, or etc... I am actually operating as an independent engineering consultant, and since I work from home I basically have very minimal overhead. But I started very slowly too,…
/r/MensRights12/11/24 04:20 AM
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I agree. But a woman should also not have a "right" towards a man's resources or his protection. Most men would be happy to simply feel appreciated or respected, but even that seems to be too much to ask for. However, in the case of Chad basically all of these rules and expectations gets dropped. In fact, the worse Chad behaves the more infatuated they seem to be.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 04:40 PM
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The circumstances for young Chinese men are quite bad right now, but you'll never hear about it on mainstream Western or Chinese media. Youth unemployment is 20% and basically it's impossible to get ahead for the average new grad. Not only this, but the dating market is brutal for these men. So the logical conclusion for these guys is to lay flat and chill, which is the Chinese equivalent of MTGOW. Normally, men like this are brushed under the carpet as an anomaly and ignored. However, it's happ…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 04:45 AM
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Engineers generally can out earn accountants if you're working in a corp. But engineers tend to have specialized skillsets, making it difficult for them to start their own companies in a manner that allows them to leverage cheap juniors to do turn key work. An accountant can much easily start their own accounting practice by doing something like personal/business taxes. And it's scalable because you can hire out cheaper juniors to do the grunt work. Your earning power then becomes far greater if…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 04:38 AM
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Accounting is not bad, it's a good path that can lead to self employment much easier than engineering IMO. Such as doing small business tax. I mostly lucked out in my field of engineering such that I earned enough quickly to be almost retired at 35. I don't necessarily have fuck you money, but I have enough that I'm not concerned if I get fired. Hence I'll tell the manager to get bent trying to force a return to office. I still deal with a fair amount of office politics from boomers, but being a…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 12:24 AM
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Yes this will never happen. If anything, more bailouts from taxpayers to single moms through social services or other such initiatives. It's heresay to suggest that families should stay together if she isn't "feeling" it.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 10:50 PM
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Yea, I don't like Trump and if I met him I'd want to punch him in the face. Many of his economic policies also suck. But this election stirs the pot against alot of the current cultural problems by pushing back on alot of the woke nonsense. And for alot of voters, this is what's needed.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 10:33 PM
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They just attract drama then complain about abuse afterwards. Most conservatives aren't the raging MAGA lunatic types. But these sort of women will do things to deliberately stir the pot to get an emotional response because they get bored of stability. Q: How do you know a woman is a feminist? A: They'll tell you about it.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 10:29 PM
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Post nut clarity is real for men. Most men don't get sex that often, but when you get it and realize the sort of woman you have to deal with to maintain that relationship...it's very easy to just nope out and decide to stay at home instead. By declaring that they are holding back sex, they've basically admitted that beyond that...there's not much else they offer. Men want intimacy too, but there's just way too many hoops to jump through and BS to deal with. Hence the term, the juice is not worth…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 07:34 PM
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No one in the media would ever dare address this, it's swept under the rug. Being short as a man is by far one of the worst things you can be as it severely affects how society treats you. I would say in most Western nations, instituitionalized racism largely does not exist anymore. But there are absolutely going to be subtle racist undertones. Eg. I'm asian and accept that I'm invisible to the vast majority of white women. But IMO race isn't even that important anymore. Your height, looks, soci…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 06:19 PM
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This is just attention seeking for validation. They weren't going to be with those men anyways. When Chad comes along she will drop all rules for him.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 05:49 PM
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The patriarchy has already been taken down and the feminists have long gotten what they originally fought for. But they'll never be happy. The result now is "where are all the good men"
/r/MensRights07/11/24 05:47 PM
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Also, they can avoid this so called violence if they just chose better men or didnt put themselves in situations that lead to it. But obviously the drug dealer right out of prison is more exciting than the boring accountant.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 05:44 PM
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I think most people recognize Trump as an asshole, psychopath, and shady businessman who doesn't have a clean record. But voting him in represents a pushback against a broken system that needs a systematic change at its core. Sometimes this is what's needed. People are frustrated with mainstream media, DEI garbage that's trickling into both the education system and the workplace, and the woke narratives being forced down everyone's throat.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 03:59 PM
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I'm asian and would generalize to say this Korean feminist trend tends to spill over to successful boss babe types in general. It's just that many top asian cities are hyper competitive which drives the extremes further. Female behavior is primordially the same regardless of race. What you are seeing in asian females is due to hyper competition, in which they are out performing men financially and academically. This leads to a decreasing supply of men that they consider economically viable, frus…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 12:20 PM
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They are basically trying to artificially decrease the supply in the market such that their percieved value goes up. If Chad came along they would 100% drop their stance. There's alot of similarities in the overpriced housing, car, or difficult job market. Sellers creating a sense of scarcity or employers forcing applicants to jump through all sort of hoops for low pay despite claiming a labour shortage.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 12:05 PM
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This was an interesting read. I'm glad I'm an engineer and don't have to deal with this BS. I have been in companies where having the wrong type of female there causes all sort of emotional tension in odd ways. I am also glad I pushed for mostly remote work as it really helps cut down on office politics like this. Your story is not surprising at all. There is basically no way of winning. Inaction is clearly treated poorly. I think you did take the most smart and safe approach. Even if you did at…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 11:47 AM
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Yes but women think emotionally, not logically. Even when they are wrong or have caused their own demise, they'll just double down instead of taking accountability. I think the left is just going to act more intolerable, causing further separation. More men will end up frustrated and alone, and more women will end up as bitter cat lady feminists.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 05:13 AM
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The problem is, many of these women are going to end up broke and dependent on social services. From having too much fun early on, or breaking apart their families and becoming single moms. Your taxpayer dollars end up subsidizing the result of their behaviors.
/r/MensRights30/10/24 06:47 PM
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There's a fair number of them in the mid 30's and above with "want kids" under their bio. I wonder how they think that's going to happen. I would assume any moderately intelligent guy is going to want to date for atleast a few years before marriage/kids. I even have a friend who, at 38, just recently left her boyfriend (who treated her well) because she got bored and went back on the market. She still thinks she'll be able to magically lock down a more interesting guy and start a family somehow.
/r/MensRights30/10/24 06:44 PM
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Wow thanks for this perspective, it describes my challenge exactly. I wasn't the type to party in my 20's, and the result of my grinding is that I was a millionaire by early 30s. By 40, I will likely either be able to retire or live a more lavish life with my disposable income should I choose to keep working. Always thought being able to check out from the corporate world and BS politics would make me happy, but in reality I think I'd feel lonely and bored sitting around all day. Problem dating …
/r/MensRights30/10/24 05:05 PM
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They're waiting at the finish line to try and pick a winner vs finding a suitable guy to run the race with and build together. Most men DO inherently want someone to be able to share what they've built with, as being rich by yourself is lonely. But the problem is when you've built yourself up alone, it's really hard being willing to open up to a random 304 that has done nothing except show up. In a few decades, there's going to be a large number of single, bitter, childless women. And broke sing…
/r/MensRights30/10/24 09:59 AM
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There was another topic where someone brought up the movie Joker. The media was worried about it inspiring incels. As a normal adult man, it's very easy to sympathsize with the movie because you've likely personally experienced or understand how even one small thing could lead a person down a rut that quickly becomes worse. Any man without the right circumstances (wealth, height, looks) is VERY easily escorted into that dark path. Men do not have the same support structures as women who have an …
/r/MensRights25/10/24 01:00 PM
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Alot of times, it may not be direct misandry but rather very subtle things. What I notice is that weak men (poor, short, ugly) are definitely treated more poorly, which could be in indirect ways such as a lack of enthusiasm from the other party in even normal conversation. Whereas strong men (tall, handsome, rich) are treated the exact opposite. For the vast majority of men, they are simply invisible like how you would deal with an NPC.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 12:51 PM
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Most women claim they value empathy and want an empathetic man. But they themselves have zero empathy when it comes to being empathetic with men. There were many concerns by the media over the Joker movie about it inspiring incels. But the fact is, it is a realistic portrayal of how a person gets down that path in the first place. They are terrified because it's representing a very real thing that many men are now feeling.
/r/MensRights23/10/24 01:33 PM
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I'm already starting to see this happen in my social circle at mid 30s. They get bored from the stability and think they can do better. They'll hop on the dating apps and immediately be able to get a new boy toy within a month or two. Then they ask for commitment, but as a guy how do you feel about investing in someone that could one day randomly decide to replace you on a whim like that?
/r/MensRights22/10/24 04:47 PM
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This is the typical entitled feminist attitude. They want all the benefits without the effort/sacrifices. You'll see many feminists/single moms living it up and boasting they own more houses than men... without acknowledging most of that money was likely from some form of bailout (inheritance, alimony, child support). Many strong independent boss babe types also got there by leveraging DEI hiring practices, women focused entrepreneurial resources, or using their looks to suck up to men.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 04:40 PM
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Modern women have all the freedoms that men have, if not more these days. The problem is they have so much opportunity such that they think they can have it all without considering that everything has trade offs. Fun, wealth, or family... can only pick 2/3. It drives them crazy that they can't have it all. Most average women can be set in life quite easily if they were willing to drop the emotions and ego. What's ironic is they can even mess up a few times and there's no shortage of bailouts ava…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 03:25 PM
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It's not only feminism but woke shit in general. Eg. Waterloo University apparently has designated swim times for blacks, women, trans.
/r/MensRights07/10/24 04:14 PM
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I don't consider myself wealthy, but I am a low single digit millionaire. I'm at the point where I've already put in the work and made the sacrifices such that my (and whoever my partner may be) financial future is secure. That being said, I'm wondering in this situation what is acceptable for distribution of work. l'd still expect my partner to work, but if I'm the one with alot of free time (which I've earned) I'd somewhat be expected to take on more of the housework. Then, ontop of that since…
/r/MensRights07/10/24 03:06 PM
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Society and human nature has always treated men as disposable. A man only has value if he is providing something to society, otherwise he is forgotten and cast aside. His problems don't matter, just his results. Women have inherent value in their youth and childbearing abilities. This is just the way it's always been.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 03:32 PM
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Married women managers/HR tend to treat most men as invisble and disposable. Except if the guy is good looking, then they'll be VERY nice to him. But if he rejects their advances then OH MAN there will be a price to pay. I actually find unmarried women worse to deal with. There's a certain inherent bitterness to their attitude which gets manifested by them doubling down on the boss babe thing, making them even more intolerable.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 03:29 PM
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From a purely men's rights perspective any more comservative party is in the benefit over liberals/democrat. But mens right issues go far beyond left vs right politics. The problems of feminism, DEI, and woke garbage trickling into our everyday lives have been decades in the making. The only immediate change I would see politicians affecting would be things like marriage laws.
/r/MensRights07/09/24 02:06 PM
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Leverage is men walking away, stop simping for single moms/304s, and in general stop validating bad behavior. The awareness is definitely growing, but not quite there yet. Go look at any Facebook/Instagram post where a pretty girl takes a picture of herself and see how many desperate simps (who would never have a chance), compliment her on how beautiful she is.
/r/MensRights02/09/24 06:15 PM
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It has always been socially acceptable and "funny" to shame the lowest of men because men are disposable. Even the fellow man will double down and call out incel for anyone who can't or is unwilling to keep up with social expectations. The media is also at fault, often times labelling these introverted social outcasts as terrorists and dangerous. I'm afraid there really isn't anything that can be done as it's been like this since the beginning of time. It's almost a natural evolution thing to pi…
/r/MensRights02/09/24 12:30 AM
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There's a lot of peer pressuring and keeping up with the Joneses that you are forced to do when in a relationship. She'll suggest all sort of fun activities or travels to go to, which inevitably you'll be responsible for >70% of the costs. And if you decide to opt out or say no, then you'll be called cheap/abusive/narcissistic.
/r/MensRights11/08/24 09:33 PM
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She problem convinced herself you were a narcissist and an abuser so therefore you deserved it. She also likely consulted her female friends who probably also reinforced her belief that it was ok, possibly even giving her suggestions on how to screw you over.
/r/MensRights11/08/24 09:30 PM
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The only economical advantage for men to pair up with a woman is if they are living together to split rent/mortgage costs. In the vast majority of cases, dating a woman will always cost a man more as he's expected to cover most of the costs whether that's dinner, entertainment, or travelling.
/r/MensRights10/08/24 11:51 PM
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Marriage is the only legal contract where a person can break the agreement and still come out ahead by getting a payout from the harmed party. Think about that for a second...
/r/MensRights05/08/24 02:53 PM
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Here in Canada I've encountered several very attractive Ukrainian women at high net worth business type events blatantly looking for a boyfriend/husband. They are very strategic and intelligent when it comes to scoping out guys. When asked about home (and the war), they kind of just brush it off as something that was in the past as they are now in a new country looking to make a new life. As a man, anytime your government sells you on the idea that you are fighting for your people, your country,…
/r/MensRights05/08/24 02:48 PM
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/r/MensRights02/08/24 07:56 PM
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I think with the internet, the younger generation is waking up to the disasters that are single moms. Many boomers stepped up to be step dads back in the day because they were brainwashed by the concept of chivalry to the point where they didn't know any better. These were usually leftover men who couldn't do any better so when a moderately attractive single mom gives them a smidge of attention, they open their wallets willingly. I think in the future this is going to be a major problem as divor…
/r/MensRights02/08/24 07:54 PM
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/r/MensRights02/08/24 04:14 PM
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Modern technology provides a dopamine hit by flooding females with validation. This has been the biggest cause of the rise in modern feminism because it's surrounding women with things that appeal to their biological wants like hypergamy. And when things don't play out that way, it tells them they don't need to be accountable because it's not their fault. It's obvious how a person's behavior is shaped if they are raised in an environment telling them they are strong independent vs one rooted in …
/r/MensRights02/08/24 11:57 AM
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/r/MensRights02/08/24 11:30 AM
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Women treat relationships like men treat jobs. Subtly they're wired to atleast always be considering something better. They'll end a relationship and hop onto a new guy weeks later, whereas most men may take a long time to find someone else. As a guy, it's an uphill battle to be willing to invest mental and financial capital into someone only for them to bounce. Girls complain about lack of commitment, but from guy's perspective you're trying to gauge if they're worth the investment. Not all wom…
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:38 PM
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Thanks for the wisdom! It's certainly hard to balance the emotional vs the logical. I've gotten to where I am by keeping free of distractions and maintaining discipline. But I'm not gonna lie, sometimes I see the broke but happy families/couples and think it would be nice to trade places. There's just something wholesome about that. It's a bit of a lonely feeling having to hoard your wealth to yourself...I'd love to have someone to share it with. But the challenge is, every woman who eventually …
/r/MensRights27/07/24 07:31 PM
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Thanks for the kind words! It's appreciated. I usually keep on the downlo about this because people would normally treat it with a sense of jealously. I'm truly not trying to one up anyone and I could care less about materialistic things...this has been mostly my way of trying to reclaim my sanity. Or atleast my form of having a sanctuary to isolate myself from the insanity of the modern world should I choose it.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 07:22 PM
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Don't worry the government will ensure you get taxed appropriately to bail out these single moms. Didn't you know that single mom is the universal coupon code to get discounts on everything?
/r/MensRights27/07/24 03:55 PM
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Great points. Politicians of nations always idolize their military members but in the modern information age people are starting to see past that. All nations east and west are having a hard time filling their ranks as people realize there's no glory being killed or maimed by war. Even the veterans that come back end up being cast away by society due to the challenges of integrating back again. Going to war is absolutely not like what they show in movies and I dont think the modern man believes …
/r/MensRights27/07/24 12:49 PM
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Great to hear! I'm on track to retire before 40, but there is a bit of a lonely feeling in that I don't have anyone to share that experience with. It also becomes a bit harder to relate to those in my age group as they're busy being tied down to family and running the corporate hamster wheel. I have alot of freedom, but no one to share that with for spontaneous travels and such.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 12:36 PM
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Thanks, yes I do find most of the pressures are social in nature. For me personally, my #1 commitment has been towards my finances as I can't stand the thought of wage slaving for the rest of my life. I'm on track to retiring in a few years before 40 and IMO the freedom to not give a F is worth it, despite the tradeoff of me pursing a path that most people would not understand.
/r/MensRights27/07/24 12:33 PM
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Incels get a bad rap for being socially reclusive, but generally they do have jobs but live minimally. So they are economically neutral. Single moms however are typically an economic drain as we subsidize them and their broken families with all sort of social services.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 04:38 PM
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At 35 this is something I struggle with accepting. Being lonely is truly a real problem. I have good finances, a healthy social circle, and hobbies, but it's still lonely. Friends tend to come and go as they start to get paired up people will just disappear. It takes effort to maintain your social network, sometimes to the point where it's tiring. You also get looked at funny for being older and not being in a relationship. I'm curious as to how the older males are doing.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 03:34 PM
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This just it. Feminists are basically female incels. Their rage is due to them feeling like they're being treated worse by society, of which their appearances and attitudes play a big factor. So they'll double down on the blue hair, lack of exercise and shame people into not accepting them as is. That's also the basis for all this DEI crap. It's a double standard for men. Feminists want to be accepted, but at the same time they'll laugh at short/balding/poor men. When it comes to appearances wom…
/r/MensRights26/07/24 03:30 PM
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This is my challenge. Grass always seems greener on the other side. I do feel I'm generally happier alone, but in the long term I do recognize that the loneliness has other crippling effects.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 12:52 AM
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Despite people referencing the older generations having it better, I'm reminded by the fact that history is written by the winners. I think throughout all of time, the male species has always been disposable. The losers slowly forgotten, while the lifestyle of the winners is what we see as "normal". IMO the white picket fence life has always been only possible for a very small few. We focus on what it was like in the 80's in the west, yet forget that almost everywhere else around the world or th…
/r/MensRights26/07/24 12:01 AM
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It's inherently every person's desire to be able to have someone that they are intimately close with. Do you find with age that your social circle may come and go, with other people drifting away as soon as they get partnered up? Basically your social interactions become transactional and require constant effort to maintain. Not gonna lie, it is a lonely journey to do it by yourself, but being with the wrong partner can make it 100x worse.
/r/MensRights25/07/24 11:57 PM
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Bitter childless cat ladies and single moms are absolutely going to destroy Western society as they are inherently a representation of the destruction of the family unit. This has been in the making for a decade already and only to get worse. Modern dating culture is already a foreshadow of what's to come. It's only recently that the knowledge of this has come to public light due to the internet and social media platforms. Traditional media has always treated these topics as taboos and swept und…
/r/MensRights25/07/24 11:15 PM
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This exactly. I think the top % of men are just as clueless as women to how the average man's life is. Every guy secretly knows his "level". If you are not top 10%, cold approaching does NOT work and you're likely to just get humiliated. I don't care how much game you have, if you are any combo of: 5'5", balding, poor, ugly, physical deformity.. you should NOT be cold approaching period. A woman has already made a decision about you based on your appearance long before you've opened your mouth. …
/r/MensRights25/07/24 09:50 PM
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Gender roles is 50% societal expectations and 50% biological. It's hard to just ignore or overwrite how we are wired. The problem with modern dating is that technology has turned dating into extremes by encouraging the worst parts of male and female nature. Hypergamy being the biggest problem. I think gender roles is not a bad thing. Men and women are valued for different things. It's just that the modern dating environment gives women all the power. Also as a guy, you pretty much know any women…
/r/MensRights24/07/24 05:22 PM
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The most basic and fundamental social structure in society is the family, but that's been largely eroded. Single moms are now applauded instead of shamed for breaking up the household. When I was a kid in the 90's, single parent households were almost unheard of...now it seems that's the fate for close to half the families. What's worse is that the intelligent men and women who ARE most equipped to start productive families that add value to the future of society...are seeing the current lunacy …
/r/MensRights21/07/24 01:45 AM
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Your commentary is a reflection of the typical red flags in a modern women in that the argument is always "me, me, me." Everything that a man does that you can't control or disagree with is considered narcissism and controlling. You've been traumatized by countless bad decisions in pursuing the bad boys to realize that there's actually a lot of good men out there, but they're too boring and stable for you. The vast majority of men are good and simply looking for peace. They're NOT looking to con…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 03:48 PM
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Feminism is merely an outlet for the worst parts of female nature. It's unfortunately because we live in a society that penalizes the GOOD parts of female nature. I don't think feminists are necessarily looking to make men "afraid". It's just that women are social and emotionally driven by nature, so they're seeking validation for their egos. This whole independent boss babe and being better at men thing is just a reflection of this. The ironic part is that these delusions are inherently going a…
/r/MensRights20/07/24 03:38 PM
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This exactly. Usually they have their minds made up on the outcome they want, which is mostly emotional based. Men fall under the trap of trying to use logic to defend their point, which is a pointless endeavor. Even if you DO win, and are ARE right by all metrics, she will take that personally which causes her to be in an emotional state to seek other ways to seek validation (such as picking on little things later on just to stir up some drama). If you don't care about the person, then yes, go …
/r/MensRights20/07/24 03:26 PM
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The trauma from the bad boys they allowed into their lives while ignoring the boring stable good men. As they get ran over more and increase body count, it makes them less able to pair bond with a partner. It's almost always self inflicted but they'll never take accountability. They will go to all sorts of therapy and stuff, but ultimately older single women give off a subtle but very specific vibe that makes them much harder to get along with than someone younger. When I meet an older women, wi…
/r/MensRights19/07/24 09:13 PM
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Male feminists typically fall under the following categories: Pretender simps thinking that being a white knight will get them laid Men raised by sisters, or being surrounded by a predominantly female environment. Blue pilled guys. Usually they lucked out early on by finding a decent girl and so therefore are oblivious to the modern realities of being a man. Or just oblivious in general and are sheltered. Men who had good experiences with dating due to being rich/tall/handsome. Similar to #2, th…
/r/MensRights19/07/24 05:56 PM
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Most decent men have very simple expectations of women. Just be kind, loyal, maintain peace (aka undramatic and not combatitive), and not have a history of being the village bicycle. There is a minimum physical standard of attractiveness too, but it's not that hard to maintain by keeping healthy and exercising regularly. There are good women out there, but it's rare as it's very easy for women to give in to the dark side. Especially as they get older and have more trauma. For men, they are alway…
/r/MensRights19/07/24 05:17 PM
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It's not just a Japanese men thing. Western women are typically not attracted to asian men in general. Women consider any approaching action from a guy who is not in the top % to be considered creepy. We already know that 90% of men are invisible. So for the most part, it's pointless for the average man to attempt to approach a woman these days.
/r/MensRights19/07/24 03:53 PM
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Wording it as "expectations" probably isn't the best way to describe it. It's clear that the social contract between man and women is broken, due to various factors present in modern society (such as economics). I'm not entirely sure there is a clear cut way to fix things. You can tell people what's logical and what's good for them, but they won't follow it if they don't feel like it. Example: it's clear that dating apps and social media is ruining everything but there's not a chance those syste…
/r/MensRights19/07/24 03:46 PM
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This. I've never been accused of being an abuser and IMO that only applies to a very small subset of men. But almost ALL men are expected to step up when it comes to paying for things. If they think you have even a moderate amount of wealth, the expectation is even worse with everyone asking for handouts and calling you cheap if you say no. It isn't even necessarily the women you're interested in, but being around a group of women in general they often expect you to just do things for them.
/r/MensRights18/07/24 04:05 PM
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Men's issues largely stem from the observations we make based on how we are being treated (eg. by society, women) or the problems that exist in our lives (eg. health, finances). The only way to get around whatever depression that may exist is to solve the problem inherently causing it. The problem with therapy is that it's almost like brainwashing ourselves into a different perspective by turning a blind eye to the realities we observe. Women are more emotional and use therapy to simply seek val…
/r/MensRights18/07/24 03:12 PM
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Economic hardship is a contributor, which is exactly why raising a family is a two person job. Because you have two people earning income and being able to share the work. It's well known that women tend to be the initators of divorce simply because they aren't "feeling" it. So many times single moms put themselves in the situation they're in. The other significant reason why single moms raise broken children is the lack of discipline. It really messes up a kid. Kids need both a father for the d…
/r/MensRights17/07/24 10:49 PM
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We are seeing Idiocracy play out in real time right now. As things get more and more ridiculous, those who are intelligent will further opt out of breeding, while the dumb breed more. This absolutely is a problem, but no Western government would ever address it due to political incorrectness. Atleast in the east, culturally there is still some shame in being a single mother. But here in the west, we full on embrace it. I could care less if they destroy their lives, but the real problem here is t…
/r/MensRights17/07/24 03:50 AM
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Baby mommas will always be a net drain on society from the social services required. And you can't not look after them because their kids will just end up more likely to be criminals. They also offer minimal tax value as they're mostly working low end jobs as admin assistants, hair dressers, or waitresses. Single moms are so incredibly selfish in many ways.
/r/MensRights15/07/24 04:42 AM
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Lowering of the population is good for the environment, but our modern economic systems are just a giant ponzi scheme and will implode without constant growth. The primary blame is the ruthless style of stakeholder capitalism pioneered by Jack Welsch and Milton Friedman. This is what also allowed feminism to rise, in which female nature has been exploited and twisted to the point where an entire generation of women have been ruined to think chasing money and independence is more important than f…
/r/MensRights15/07/24 04:37 AM
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I never said that they weren't. Indian guys have it probably the worst. Their own women are known for preferring white men and many will go as far as to refuse to date their own kind. And most races aren't attracted to Indian men.
/r/MensRights13/07/24 08:04 PM
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Normally I don't really care about one off fringe movements as you can choose not to pay any attention and it doesn't affect your life. The problem with feminism is that it has a real effect on every man's life nowadays. It could be subtle, such as being discriminated in your career, or maybe one off hits on your dignity here and there. But the biggest affect for most men is that it's affecting their relationships and is quite literally ruining the family unit, which has widespread consequences.
/r/MensRights13/07/24 08:01 PM
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It's not really complex, all the commentary here pretty much predicts exactly how they'll act in various situations and the decisions they'll make. It's just dellusional and they'll complain about the results that we've all long predicted. Dads know this, which is why they try to raise their daughters appropriately. But then the rise of fatherless households create all sort of issues early on.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 04:24 PM
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Most single moms are used to having a lifestyle supported by child support payments and have likely done almost zero planning for retirement. Will be interesting what happens when they get older, kids have moved out, child support payments stop, and they're still working as admins, hairdressers, and receptionists. In a world where cost of living keeps outpacing wages. You would expect taxpayers to have to bail them out, but more men are ending up single and are able to live on very little while …
/r/MensRights12/07/24 02:52 PM
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As a Chinese guy I see this alot. Chinese women, especially if they were raised in China and moved to the west later on... are some of the biggest gold diggers to the point where they are bad at hiding it and are direct about it. Eg. First date asks you about your business and if you own a house. Many wont even consider dating a guy without a house. I think the reason is most asian cities are extremely competitive, and despite the average person making very little, they are constantly seeing ext…
/r/MensRights12/07/24 01:38 PM
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Yea it's actually not bad, very peaceful. Everyone is stressing over mundane things and I just DGAF. Post covid, management insisted on us returning to office but I said no. They've tried to talk me into showing up more often but I just hold my ground. They even tried offering me a management role but I said no. I think boomers are still stuck on the old notion that being offered a higher role with more responsibility is what people want. They know I get my stuff done and I do good work, so I th…
/r/MensRights12/07/24 02:23 AM
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Wow this video is so true. Many asian women blatently saying they wouldn't date asian guys and it's treated as funny. I suspect inherently this is hypergamy in action. A similar analogy would be like war brides who would walk away from men in the defeated nation and pair up with the invaders for survival.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 09:07 PM
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It's hard for a white male to understand. Just like how it's hard for women to understand men's issues. It's not a blatant racism thing, but rather the subtle and subconscious biases that exist. You would have to go through, and experience the various subtleties in day to day life to understand. ​
/r/MensRights11/07/24 08:51 PM
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Hated is probably too harsh of a comment. Asians are known to be hard workers, respectful, and not asking for too much, so many companies are happy to capitalize on that for profit. But asian men are mostly invisible as far as promotions or dating unless you really put yourself out there. This would apply to Chinese and Filipinnos. Also culturally, asians tend to be more passive so they don't speak up to ask for more or revolt. Hence why laying flat or walking away are common coping mechanisms. …
/r/MensRights11/07/24 05:07 PM
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I've truly met very very little amounts of women who I would say even understand finances, let alone being good at it. Just making high incomes and owning a home doesn't mean they are good with money, despite those points being their usual justification on how successful they are. There's a difference between net worth (real wealth) and income. Even in the men they choose, they rather someone with a high earning title, rather than someone who quietly builds his net worth consistently over time.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 04:02 PM
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Slaving away at a career for a boss or corporation that treats you as a human asset is considered empowered. But doing housework and chores for your own family is oppression.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 03:56 PM
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What points do you disagree with? My commentary is mostly for westernized asians. But it applies even for new immigrants where it's pretty much game over for them. But like I said, that option is still better than being back home where they are disposable with no prospects. Women are not attracted to average men, but I would extend that comment and say that for an asian, they're also not attracted to above average asian men. I'm not trying to take on a victim mentality, but this is the truth.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 03:29 PM
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You do not know the true nature of a woman until you go through a real struggle (eg. health or financial). They may genuinely care for you, but under a prolonged period of distress most of them will eventually have a cracking point and will not stick with you until the end especially if they know they have options. Eg. You lose your job and cannot find anything after a year, end up losing the house. She will eventually slowly convince herself that you're turning into a narcissist with your compl…
/r/MensRights11/07/24 03:18 PM
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Many men have been sold the false lie that they need to be more emotional and go to therapy. Women think that's what they want because they want to turn their man into a bestie, but then subconsciously they cannot respect a man that's weak and emotional. As a guy, the ONLY women you can trust in your life (usually) who has your best interests are your immediate birth family members like mother, grandmother, sister.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 02:39 PM
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Asians face different challenges in this world. Living in the west is still far better then being back in the east where you'd literally be disposable due to the crazy competition. Dating wise, your choices are limited mostly to other asians. Not by choice, but the fact that for the most part only asian girls would give you a chance. White women generally are not attracted to the average asian, unless of course you're tall and handsome. Even if you were rich, it only makes you more attractive to…
/r/MensRights11/07/24 02:34 PM
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This is 100% true. I don't think they actually want a rich man, or are prepared to go through the sacrifices to be wealthy. But rather they prefer the emotional feeling of having a guy that's willing to overspend on them or the social prestige of being able to flaunt their man in public in saying he's a CEO or doctor. In fact, I would go as far to say they'd probably rather have a broke doctor than a successful plumber.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 10:19 AM
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The reality is, the more you provide the more that becomes an expectation as a baseline. And they will never be bappy because you'll always be compared to someone even richer or more generous from their past. But I get you. Once you get to a point where your basic needs are met, it's pointless to chase more. My criteria for a woman is to look for someone simple who can be content with basic things. If they are an aggressive social media user, it's also reflected in their personality.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 04:09 AM
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Yes absolutely, and especially being an asian you know 100% that you're judged. Asian girls are some of the most superficial. I'm mid 30's, millionaire, but tend to give off "cheap" vibes since I'm naturally frugal having been raised poor. It's just inherent to my values that no matter how much money I have, I want to be careful with money. However, I think it's starting to trickle out that people somewhat know I have money which puts me in an uncomfortable position. For example, sometimes women…
/r/MensRights11/07/24 03:33 AM
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Yup, it's even part of the template. Or when you sign up for something (like an event or volunteering) there's all sort of he/him options but no simple "male" or "female" .
/r/MensRights10/07/24 10:02 PM
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Here in Canada, many corporations have gone woke. Sometimes it's subtle, othertimes it's right in your face where everyone has to buy in or else you're seen as not a team player. Just look on Linkedin and how many have changed their logo to LGHDTV colors. Like why is that necessary?? Ontop of that, we have a difficult job market. Not only are you fighting against DEI crap, but the country has flooded itself with immigrants to the point where even getting an entry level job is tough.
/r/MensRights10/07/24 08:37 PM
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Young men in asia are already walking away from dating and careers in staggering numbers as they realize it's the only logical path. It's such a problem that China has to censor all mentions of the movement online as to not grow momentum. A generation of men not spending, not getting into debt buying houses (living at home), or getting married is a BIG problem for those in power. As more awareness is built, this may reach a critical mass stage. In asia, it's somewhat known already. But in the we…
/r/MensRights10/07/24 02:59 PM
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Teens: Did fairly good in school and was smart, followed the typical ideal path of being an engineer. Average height, have been told I'm cute only seldomly, but as an asian it's hard trying to date white so pretty much only chased asians. Also, was socially awkward and not athletic. 20s: Got my first GF at 21 and graduated with my first decent paying engineering job, thought I was following the ideal path. Relationship lasted 1.5 years, also experienced my first layoff and that's when the realiz…
/r/MensRights10/07/24 02:42 PM
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I'm not saying I agree with this, just that society has always treated men as disposable and this is no different. As long as men keep simping, they're going to keep getting screwed. That's why it's important to have a pre nup and also insist on a paternity test. If the partner refuses then walk away.
/r/MensRights10/07/24 02:01 PM
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Paternity tests would never be mandatory because society needs men to step up, raise kids, and keep families coherent (even if he's doing so unknowingly). Society is already turning for the worse due to the rise of single mothers and fatherless homes. Imagine what would happen if more families got destroyed due to men walking away from kids that aren't his. This is the reality that's never taught to men. And as long as there's desperate simps not willing to stand their ground then this will cont…
/r/MensRights10/07/24 11:49 AM
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Women would also rather be alone with cats then anyone that's not Chad because they'd feel like they were settling.
/r/MensRights10/07/24 11:42 AM
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It's said that women's standards get higher with time (especially single moms) but IMO I think that mostly refers to economic standards. I do think they tend to realize their looks diminish and so therefore they also drop those standards slightly. So I do agree that as a guy, as long as you can be half decent physically and​ financially, you should have alot more options open up soon. Unfortunately, inflation pushes everything to later so IMO most men don't reach that financial peak until ~40s, …
/r/MensRights09/07/24 03:09 PM
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Having a bare financial minimum standard is absolutely essential to maintain living, but it's not everything. I'm mid 30's and reached being a millionaire quietly, which certainly gets rid of some stresses like maintaining basic physical needs. But I'm still dealing with modern insanities like corporate work culture, and trying to date. I've definitely been tempted to one day just opt out of it all, but that results in its own problems like lonliness and having no meaning in life. I do have a de…
/r/MensRights09/07/24 10:42 AM
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It's definitely from social media and dating apps. Women are more emotionally driven and seek social validation similar to how men seek resources. Social media has created an environment where they can get the quick dopeamine hit and plays into their nature hypergamy. To the point where they can never be satisfied and orchestrate their own destruction. IMO as a guy, if I had to pick the top red flags in a woman in a quantifiable manner, it would be body count and social media usage. These two fa…
/r/MensRights08/07/24 04:41 AM
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It's not just the West. I'm Asian, and always thought that traditional asian girls were nice with conservative family values, not like the Western trash. But nope, they are even harder to deal with in regards to unrealistic expectations, princess syndrome, materialism, have all sorts of issues, and also play extreme mind games. It's absolutely crazy, because I remember as a kid growing up it was almost unheard of for asian families to have single moms. It was a taboo to be a single mom and every…
/r/MensRights08/07/24 03:07 AM
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Finding peace in accepting that you'll likely die alone is actually a very tough thing to take in. I'm 35, millionaire, average looking, average height, and have already accepted I'll end up that way as well. It's not that I want to be alone, but rather the quality of modern women is just so incredibly bad. It's seemingly impossible to find someone mentally normal that meets atleast a minimum level of attractiveness (I don't even have crazy unrealistic standards). Sometimes I do think there's so…
/r/MensRights08/07/24 01:41 AM
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Yup, the bottom men are disposable. You're either thrown into the military meat grinder, or taxed to provide social services to single mom's bad decisions.
/r/MensRights06/07/24 09:56 PM
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I don't think most people, including the top tier men are actively trying to do bad. It's just that topics like depression, poverty, career, dating etc... are viewed in their lenses, of which has typically been easy due to their nature (eg. Tall, rich, grew up socially connected with priviledge). So when they implement policies, it's usually based on their world view. Similar to boomers telling millenials to just work harder and firm up that handshake. A great example is the declining birth rate…
/r/MensRights05/07/24 11:19 PM
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Most people who make it in politics or business are usually "top" calibre men with A type personalities. These sort of personalities attract success and usually their life experience as a man is going to be alot different than what the average guy goes through. So issues like financial/mental/social issues are largely topics they may read an article about, but they are otherwise mostly insulated from those experiences.
/r/MensRights05/07/24 07:46 PM
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A big part of our life experience also comes down to the hand we were dealt with in life. Mostly that of economics, and looks. A dumb, but tall, handsome, and rich guy will have an infinitely better life experience than any combination of being poor/short/ugly. Probably the number one factor in how others treat you is your appearances. When you are treated a certain way all your life, it ends up shaping your personality and life outcomes.
/r/MensRights05/07/24 04:33 AM
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Women are worse than men at managing money due to biology. I stated this point in a previous discussion and some raging feminist got angry enough to post a source to disprove me: https://www.thestreet.com/personal-finance/us-net-worth-wealth-data-married-vs-single Of which then ironically, she misintetpreted her own source because the data clearly shows males build net worth more than women at any age. Men are wired to be providers and to be secure for the future, therefore saving and investing …
/r/MensRights04/07/24 09:36 PM
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It's not even necessarily the significant things, but even little things get brushed off or is taboo to talk about in most spaces. Like lonliness, rejection, discussing female problems, or even the feeling of unaccomplishment (career). These things weigh a person down gradually over time.
/r/MensRights03/07/24 08:47 PM
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It does seemingly get worse with age. When I go to any social event or meet people, can pretty much tell who the cat ladies are. They just give off a certain vibe.
/r/MensRights01/07/24 04:50 AM
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I'm only mid 30's and I've already noticed the "cat lady" vibe with some of my female friends in the same age group. They meet many stereotypes, starting with the cat. Often times they are sub 7 on a looks scale, but their expectations are much more stringent despite themselves not meeting the vast majority of them (Eg. being a home owner, making a certain income). Often times they have a sense of bitterness to them as there is always something to complain about regarding the men they encounter.…
/r/MensRights30/06/24 05:20 PM
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With all the broken families being raised by broke single moms, your taxes is paying for the social services that go into supporting that. Then also indirectly as many of those children end up being criminals or being a drain on society.
/r/MensRights27/06/24 03:58 PM
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Yup, as a millenial IMO it's important to keep healthy and also have basic technical skills like fixing the car, house repairs, etc..
/r/MensRights27/06/24 03:54 PM
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It's challenging, especially in the current economic conditions where it's almost inevitable that you'll experience a layoff sometime in your career. A guy may start having to cut back. That can slowly eat away at a women's psych if she has to be the provider and cannot have the lifestyle she was acustomed to. I've also seen where the woman is unemployed for an extended period of time and the boredom sets in to the point where she cracks and has to go "find herself" ultimately ruining the relati…
/r/MensRights27/06/24 02:33 PM
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I don't owe you any explanation. Looks like you got offended at my comment calling out single moms as being benefactors of social services and a tax burden, so you're doing all sort of mental gymnastics to try and conclude I'm being lazy for not wanting to work hard. I'm my 30s, millionaire, and single with minimal responsibilities. So yea if I feel like flopping down like a rag doll and stop putting in effort I can pretty damn well do whatever I want.
/r/MensRights26/06/24 09:14 PM
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Ok dude, you go ahead and be captain save a hoe. I personally don't want to be giving gifters even a penny.
/r/MensRights26/06/24 08:13 PM
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Thanks for the wise words. I'm in my mid 30s and definitely starting to get more attention from women compared to my 20s. But it largely feels like it's moreso out of desperation from those who need to find a financially stable guy rather than genuine desire or lust. I'm guessing the "where are all the nice men" stage doesn't start until their 40s+. But those women give off a certain attitude that makes them unsuitable to be wives. For me, I'd still like to find a genuine life partner and the co…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 08:08 PM
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It's pretty simple. Have a clean history, be pleasant to be around, and just give them attention. There's of course a minimum standard of physical attraction but if you're relatively healthy and look after yourself it's not that hard to obtain. Don't need makeup and duck lips to do that.
/r/MensRights26/06/24 07:54 PM
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Elites have certainly rigged the economy, but I also don't want to be working hard just so I'm subsidizing groups of marginalized people who have mostly placed themselves into the situation they're in. This includes criminals, druggies, and yes, many single moms. But unfortunately as a society we kind of have to be responsible for their mistakes because broken families end up resulting in more criminals and general chaos for society that we all eventually pay even more for.
/r/MensRights26/06/24 06:31 PM
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I think many guys are feeling the frustration and are starting to realize it's not worth the effort. Our natural instinct is to want to be a provider and do all those nice things, but in modern dating culture the women hold all the cards. That's just the reality. My rule of thumb now is if we met online, then I'm only doing coffee dates or walks. I'm sorry that you expect to be spoiled but if you're online it's guaranteed you're also talking to a dozen other men. I don't even take online dates s…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 05:17 PM
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This problem is popping up in many parts of the world, both east and western cultures. Workforce and birth rates in decline. Even militaries have a tough time recruiting. Ironically, policy makers will try to implement all sort of band aid policies that only make the situation worse. Like Greece's recent 6 day work week mandate. We've basically realized there's no point in working so hard for a society that doesn't care about us. Men traditionally would still try hard under adverse conditions if…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 03:21 PM
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I'm not woman hating, just highlighting how we are wired differently when it comes to money. Women are emotionally driven with their spending habits and men tend to take a logical approach where they feel the need to plan for the future. Your statement takes no individual accountability by blaming the government when the statistics in your own source proved my point. A single unmarried woman pursuing her career has the exact same opportunity to build NW as a man. To suggest there is a law in any…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 03:35 AM
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You just proved my point. Net Worth by Marital Status and Age is a better table to look at than distribution, which is meaningless because it's not tracking how a person is building NW with time. It's a better reflection of behavior. Unmarried males NW largely exceed that of unmarried females from youth until age ~60. Then the net worths converge with the male edging out slightly. So basically in a person's prime working years, males are saving and investing more aggressively while females are h…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 12:54 AM
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Exactly, there's a difference between income and NW. Men are typically more frugal savers so tend to consistently build NW over time. Women tend to be poor as saving and give into consumerism more so tend to be poor at investing and savings.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 09:34 PM
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We do naturally want companions and to be providers to them. It's just that when they act entitled and unappreciative, then the red flags appear and the truth comes out.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 12:21 PM
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Most of your points seem centered about finances, but it's more than just that. There's also emotional peace for a man. A guy can very happily live on very little. But for a woman in her mind, the calculator is always crunching in the background in terms of how much resources can her guy bring in, and also in comparison to others. I also don't buy the claim that single men and women are similar in finances. Even if women are starting to out earn men, they tend to be spenders while men are savers…
/r/MensRights25/06/24 12:17 PM
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The thing is, you don't really know a woman's true nature until seeing how she handles a tough situation like a divorce. She could very well intend to take things serious, but as time goes by something could always change her mindset. Like being bombarded on social media seeing other couples with more stuff, richer men, etc...
/r/MensRights25/06/24 12:04 PM
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If anything, her friends will even convince her it's perfectly acceptable to leave a man as soon as she doesn't "feel" it anymore. It could be be after years of a guy pouring resources and investing in her. That's why one must atleast have a prenup as an insurance policy if they are to get married.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 11:59 AM
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Women will claim they are loyal to a man, but as soon as they break up they'll have a new boyfriend within a week. That just proves how emotionally unreliable they are because finding a new man is literally their #1 coping mechanism.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 11:56 AM
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It's sort of like how it's become socially acceptable to proudly state a business as being women/black/lgbt owned.
/r/MensRights19/06/24 06:53 PM
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Don't forget that feminist attitudes also tends to turn women into becoming single moms for if they do manage to find a partner. For a child, growing up in a single parent household traumatizes them in many subtle ways and will mess them up for the future. Imagine all your friends are doing normal happy family things together while you spend half the time with mom and one of the many boyfriends that will come and go.
/r/MensRights19/06/24 06:51 PM
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There's effectively zero situations where being emotional as a man is ever beneficial. Faking emotion strategically, is a different story. The world in general will happily exploit your weaknesses. The internet is maybe the only place that you can rant in an open manner due to the anonymity. Even then, be prepared for backlash. Hence why I use a burner account to discuss these matters.
/r/MensRights17/06/24 07:29 PM
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I'm not even sure what modern feminism's goal is nowadays. I think it's mostly just attention and validation. The laws, school, work, and media are already in their favor. They get tons of attention from men, and an endless pool of men wanting to date them or give them attention via apps. There's no shortage of bailout options for if they do fail at something. Even when they get what they want, they'll find something else to get angry about. They'll want to be strong independent and successful, …
/r/MensRights20/04/24 01:56 PM
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There is a grass is greener syndrome. Women generally aren't actually happier single as they are more emotional and rely on a social support structure. Or more specifically, validation. I do suspect a lot of them who claim they are happy single, is mostly just a coping mechanism where deep inside they still rather be with the perfect man. The problem is that delusion of what an ideal man is vs the reality is. They will very quickly see the flaws of a man where even one point could be a dealbreak…
/r/MensRights20/04/24 01:52 PM
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White women are the most pro DEI but they are also subtly the most racist and sexist. They'll be super nice to the attractive guy but if you're average and colored, you will absolutely be looked down upon. They will never admit it, but it happens on a subconscious level. Colored races are definitely seen as lower, with the exception if you were the top genetically (eg. Tall, handsome, rich). But even then, a tall Indian/Chinese man would face significantly more hurdles than someone who was white…
/r/MensRights18/04/24 05:27 PM
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Women tend to value housing as a status symbol whereas men like the freedom of renting. While being able to own housing is typically a reflection of financial success, it's not always the case. Women still tend to be worse with saving and investing to the point that many are over stretched financially even if they are homeowners. And of course, many are being subsidized either through divorce or from an army of simps. A decently good looking woman pretty much never has to pay for going out or me…
/r/MensRights18/04/24 05:19 PM
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Not really, it's unrealistic to expect divorce to be outlawed. They can introduce all the tax incentives or couples therapy programs they want but you'll never convince a woman not to follow her emotions. It's in the interests of society to bail out single moms, especially when the population decline hits critical levels. To encourage women to have kids by offering a safety net where they aren't held accountable for their mishaps. Like it or not, it's cheaper to be forcing men to take on child s…
/r/MensRights16/04/24 03:55 AM
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As the population get older, the younger working class will be under more economic burdens (tax). So the current tough times will only get tougher as things become less affordable and people are increasingly screwed for retirement. Generally, men are more logical and are more capable of delayed gratification which helps with saving and investing. Women may be high earning, but that does not always correlate to being able to build long term net worth as they generally have poor spending habits. S…
/r/MensRights16/04/24 01:31 AM
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Women always complain about men being emotionally unavailable. But that only applies to the bad boys they are trying to lock down, then they ask where are all the good men. I can pretty much guarantee you are in for a bad time if you show emotional weakness or vulnerability to a woman.
/r/MensRights15/04/24 10:21 PM
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For women that play the game, yes. It's just a popularity contest. For any woman who is fat/unattractive, she will likely be treated worse by other women in these environments then by men. But in most circumstances, large groups of women generally can't stand each other and the drama that arises from those sort of workplaces is pretty much inevitable. Career wise, I'm glad I work in STEM with 95% male colleagues. In the 10+ years that I've been working, there's generally almost no interpersonal …
/r/MensRights15/04/24 02:38 AM
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There are a lot of factors outside of a guy's control, mainly his looks and height. For the average guy, even most "decent" women will treat him as invisible. I'm not saying they're bad people...they could have genuinely good hearts, but that's just the way it is in a guy's world. I'm also not saying good women don't exist. They do, and there are many who have been raised well. But if they are moderately attractive, those women tend to be wife-d up well before she turns 30.
/r/MensRights15/04/24 02:36 AM
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All mainstream media views feminism as empowering and any critique of it or discussions of the manosphere as being toxic. Incels are viewed as terrorists basically. This includes not only Youtube but Reddit as well.
/r/MensRights15/04/24 01:48 AM
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Never work at one of those proud female owned companies. It's bad for both men and women. I guarantee those places will tout how they embrace diversity yet ironically their core culture is sexist. They're absolutely toxic places and will naturally self destroy themselves eventually.
/r/MensRights15/04/24 01:25 AM
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I never said that a guy who gets someone pregnant shouldn't be on the hook for child support. But women choose the men they let into their lives, so they're also accountable for that. So the problems of a single mom are almost always 100% self inflicted. That's why I have no sympathy for whatever it is they're complaining about.
/r/MensRights14/04/24 05:29 PM
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Women do actually think they are often victimized, but they also don't realize how they will pretty much always get bailed out by men or the state. It's a mental state of mind, which is why you'll always see them accusing men of being abusive or narcissists over the littlest of things. A women could make mistake after mistake, being a single mom of multiple daddies, and will STILL have some simp come in willing to bail her out. For men, failure generally isn't an option and we don't have that ma…
/r/MensRights14/04/24 04:28 PM
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That's entirely fair because IMO the child support should go to the child. But in the vast majority of cases, the mom is using it to travel, party it up, and meet other dudes with that money. I'm sure we all know many of these cases, but I have a single mom friend who is used to going out to eat at fancy places (she blogs about it on Instagram), travelling multiple times a year, and buying clothes. And she has the audacity to complain about "cheap men" when they only offer to do coffee dates or …
/r/MensRights14/04/24 03:44 PM
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When you're younger and a have not, I found myself being more left leaning. Then as I started making money and having assets I started to realize what it meant to have to work and struggle for the things you have, and to be careful with handing things out to people. But ultimately, it's how foolish the left behaves that makes me want to become more conservative and traditional.
/r/MensRights14/04/24 03:37 PM
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I never said social media doesn't influence men. However, men typically tend to be logical and women are emotional. A message board is also a different type of social media and I would argue that most people use Reddit for entertainment and to share info/gain knowledge. Instagram or Facebook for women caters to their need for social validation. Men aren't immune to validation either, but since they don't get the same amount of attention as women, it doesn't affect them as negatively. Women are m…
/r/MensRights13/04/24 10:31 PM
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It was probably even worse the further back you go. There's just no stats to track it. For every man who managed to find a wife and raise kids, there's probably dozens of other men who ended up penniless and alone. History books only write about successful men. Those who have dropped out or failed, are largely invisible and forgotten. As a male, nature inherently works against you and any mess up along the way could put you deeper into an unrecoverable rut. For a female, as long as they maintain…
/r/MensRights13/04/24 08:02 PM
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Except men usually handle being alone alot better. Women spend most of their youth constantly being validated. When that attention drops off suddenly, they are unprepared and enter depression.
/r/MensRights13/04/24 07:48 PM
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It's because shaming women has been a taboo that no church, boss, CEO, or any organization would dare do for fear of getting cancelled. But short, bald, and incompetant men? That's hilarious.
/r/MensRights13/04/24 04:31 AM
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For a young guy, unless he lucks out, it's pretty much pointless to try too hard with girls in his 20s. I wouldn't say to stop all effort completely...because he should still get experience with rejection and the "game". But in his 20's he should pretty much be working on bettering himself, and saving + investing as much money as possible. Possibly may have to carry on into his early 30s due to the current economics, but this will at least set him up to have somewhat of a chance.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 11:22 PM
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I'm not religious but even I'm seeing how the church encourages Christian men to uphold longstanding traditional standards, yet women are given a free pass. Guys have to buy into the blue pill narrative, then when they get screwed over it's their fault. For the women they could do all sort of promiscuous things, have a past history, or be a single mom/divorcee, but can repent and be accepted into the community with support. I used to think religious women were the last sort of decent women who w…
/r/MensRights12/04/24 05:34 PM
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That's pretty much a trap. In the modern world where every woman is exposed to social media and overwhelmed with attention/validation, even if she was genuinely ok with making more than you or being a breadwinner, the intruisive thoughts of "what if" and "maybe I could do better" WILL eventually get to her.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 05:00 PM
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An attractive woman can afford to make many many mistakes in her lifetime and get bailed out as long as she maintain her looks. If she hasn't figured things out by 40, that's when things go downhill fast because most women depreciate rapidly past 35. Men on the other hand, could become financially crippled for life from one bad mistake. The deeper that men fall into a rut, the harder it is to recover.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 04:56 PM
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In this day and age, leaving the house too soon will financially cripple a person for a lifetime.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 04:52 PM
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That is so true. If you take on a single mom it quite literally is a slap in the face of your parents. Imagine if you were the parent and your son brought home that kind of a catch. There is a reason why every human culture has shamed single moms. It's the ultimate sign of failure in life as a woman. OP is worried about being judged for dating younger, but that's only from jealousy. I can pretty much guarantee a guy is going to get judged even worse (as a cuck) for being with a single mom.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 10:46 AM
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They have the same biological desire to settle down and secure the best mate because they know their value is diminishing quickly. They are still just as picky because they know that if the guy they pick doesn't work out, then they've wasted their limited time. And even if they find someone, it's inevitable someone better will cross paths of which then they resent the current guy they are with.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 04:27 AM
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Often times they are in crisis mode and feeling the biological need to settle, but their delusions will keep them thinking they can do better. That's why they'll nitpick over the smallest of things they might not like about a guy which could rule him out. If a woman is in the 30-35 range and on her dating profile says "wants kids", I pretty much know the first date will be 100% a job interview with some skills testing questions. aka. Do you cook?
/r/MensRights12/04/24 03:53 AM
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Not really. A guy looking for a single woman in her 30's who doesn't have mental issues, weird trauma, high body count, or just basic decent feminine qualities (aka. wife material)...is pretty much the same delusion as a woman looking for all 6's in a guy. The only difference is guys are usually willing to drop their standards wayyyy lower than a woman of hers. If anything, women's standards go up over time whereas past a certain point a guy will recognize the reality of what he can get. That's …
/r/MensRights12/04/24 03:46 AM
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Oh man I've seen it so many times that I can basically predict the outcome of single moms. I have a particular single mom acquaintance who goes through guy after guy so I've seen the trends play out. Somehow managed to snag a simp doctor (which is the best she's done), but even that guy eventually came to his senses. Only a month into dating him, she was already fantasizing about the house they'd buy together, the lifestyle, and how she wanted to have his kids in order to baby trap the guy. Alwa…
/r/MensRights12/04/24 03:09 AM
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No matter how desperate you are, never date single moms. It's pretty much well known these days, especially with all the info and stories shared online. So no sympathy for guys who get ruined for thinking this time will be different. I think you probably just need to get out of the western world in general. In big cities there's still lots of older 30 year old childless women. The only problem is they tend to fall under the common categories of: Woke left liberal Strong independent, career focus…
/r/MensRights12/04/24 03:04 AM
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Yea um we all make mistakes but 4 marriages? That's a sign and you're the common denominator. Marriage is a vow between people to stick together through all of life's challenges. But what I'm hearing from your reply is "me, me, me, my happiness" and other excuses. It's fine if two adults decide to ruin their lives, but the problem is you've also ruined your children's lives as they now have a messed up, non stable family situation. This is why men now consider marriage as a bad deal. All it take…
/r/MensRights10/04/24 08:41 PM
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I have a theory that all these hairdressers are single moms because they spend all day gossipping with customers and their dresser colleagues. When you have a bunch of bored middle aged women all sharing stories about their husbands, they very quickly let the victim mentality take over and start to be convinced the husbands are being abusive over the littlest of things.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 08:28 PM
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They realize after divorcing the dad how tough the world is and are basically looking for a bailout of their mistakes.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 06:34 PM
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Single moms will go through all sorts of mental gymnastics complaining about a partner they chose for not doing enough to the point of divorcing them, only to think that going at it alone on the streets is easier. Then they'll proclaim about how strong independent they are while living it up off child support payments. Just wait until the child gets older and the payments dry up. There will be a mass crisis as they try to support themselves from that receptionist/hairdresser/waitress job. We'll …
/r/MensRights10/04/24 06:32 PM
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One divorce is already a red flag but 4? Damn. Anyone (man or woman) who decides to take seriously someone whose already been through several marriages AND has kids from multiple partners is gonna get what's coming. Single moms are 100% a problem and destroying society because it's raising a generation of broken kids.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 06:18 PM
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A guy can still screen her as best as he can. Look at her past, and see how she handles difficult times (eg. if you lose your job). Marriage is just a contract, it shouldn't change your relationship dynamics. The guy in OP's example didn't suddenly start having to support the kids right after marriage. There would've been signs. Lastly, if guys simply avoided single moms and 304s you've decreased the risks substantially already.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 06:13 PM
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This right there. With all the knowledge and info available online these days, there's no excuse for a man to not know any better and still decide to take on a single mom. When you marry her, you're also marrying all her problems and baggage.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the feedback! I'm not even religious and pretty open minded but I find modern societal behaviors just an absolute joke sometimes. Pretty much guaranteed any normal guy wants a wife with a low body count, it's just common sense. Yet we are shamed for having that as a preference. I understand those women are nonexistent now, but doesn't mean we still can't prefer it. We're basically destroying the natural social fabric and giving people validation that it's ok to act without decency and…
/r/MensRights10/04/24 02:58 PM
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Asian, not too bad looking and decent finances with a professional job. But being 5'7", I never realized how much it sucks being short until I started trying to date more seriously in my late 20s when online dating became more mainstream. I'm pretty much invisible in most situations. I get dates with white women but can definitely feel the lack of attraction they have. I can't imagine how much more it would suck for the 5'6"ers and below.
/r/MensRights09/04/24 07:52 PM
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It's hard to fight instinct. Most men will have a tipping point in terms of giving into a pretty female. It's just that their standards are too high such that most moderately attractive females aren't interested in the average guy.
/r/MensRights09/04/24 02:41 PM
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I never said I had a high body count. I've had a few partners but I wouldn't be proud of telling my future wife about everyone I've been with.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 05:24 PM
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I don't know what sort of mental gymnastics you're trying to spin with that comment. People should be honest to their partners about their body count. But having a high body count isn't something most people feel proud to be bragging about. If you have a high body count it absolutely is a reflection of character. It means you don't have good self control, can't hold down a relationship, or have poor decision making skills when choosing a partner. Why do you think it's looked down upon from liter…
/r/MensRights06/04/24 04:11 PM
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Guys typically don't want to date single moms because they are a liability and a bad idea, regardless of if it was her fault or not. Guys also usually prefer someone with a low body count. It's no different than the fact that most women aren't attracted to someone short and broke. Often times not his fault either, but do you think women care? No. It's just how we are wired for our natural preferences.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 04:07 PM
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Ok dude you go ahead and go rescue some single mom then. There's a difference with having a few partners vs having dozens. The more partners a woman has the less likely she's able to pair bond with a mate and the trauma spills over to future relationships.
/r/MensRights06/04/24 12:06 AM
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Dude whatever you say man. You even being willing to date a stripper says enough about your upbringing and values. If someone was a pornstar would also be willing to forgive her past and be proud to introduce her to your momma as part of the family? Are you proud to introduce her as such in public functions or to your friends? If no, then gee I wonder why that is. I get that people make mistakes, and will have a few partners. But dozens and dozens? If their history is that of not being able to h…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 09:23 PM
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I wouldn't be proud of telling my future wife of all the women I've been with. Nor would I want to marry the village bicycle whose gone through dozens of dudes. It speaks to a person's character.
/r/MensRights05/04/24 06:56 PM
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This is why I have a burner account. People will pretty much go through your comment history and call you out for misogyny even if it's a completely unrelated topic. Misandry is pretty much a non existent term in the mainstream.
/r/MensRights05/04/24 06:53 PM
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Knowing exactly what she likes is the problem. After being ran through by all these dudes, she will always be comparing you to an ex that was better in certain things and expecting that from you. Whereas someone inexperienced is more adaptable and appreciating on the novelty of things. The only sort of guys going for older experienced women are usually insecure with mommy issues or don't know how to lead their lives. There is a reason that pretty much all cultures in history look down on divorce…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 06:27 PM
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It's natural instinct to prefer someone with less partners. However, women also value experience and social validation, so a man with no experience in his 30s is also a turn off. Whereas men would love to marry a virgin, but the unfortunate reality in this day and age is that women are constantly showered with attention so it's impractical to expect that from her. In fact, if she's moderately attractive, those women are pretty much non existent. So men have been constantly lowering their standar…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 01:16 PM
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It is nice to see people being able to freely call out some of the crazy stuff that we all observe around us. I still have to use my burner account here because people will troll your comment history to call you out on being here (aka. a misogynist) even on completely unrelated topics.
/r/MensRights04/04/24 06:56 PM
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Yea you're pretty much screwed if you reply with any of the suggestions here. Best to just tell her what she wants to hear to stroke her ego, get your grades, and GTFO the class.
/r/MensRights04/04/24 04:01 AM
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Unfortunately this is the truth. The fact that this is even a question, leads me to believe the teacher is a woke left leaning feminist type (would love it if the OP can confirm). Therefore all of the replies here, although fundamentally correct, will probably get the OP in trouble. However a part of me would also love to see the OP answer bluntly and see the drama that ensues. If enough chaos is caused, could post it on the internet to go viral, then sue the school for profit.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 10:33 PM
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There is absolutely no reason for a company to be owning SFHs, however people do use corporations to tax shelter their rentals. I would also support a vacant home tax AND progressive taxation for individuals owning more than one property. This would encourage more instituitional investment on multifamily units (apartments) which is actually a good thing for supply.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 09:31 PM
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Too bad it's probably atleast another 15-20 years. Many boomers are surprisingly healthy, but have been bad with their savings so they're still working to the absolute end and hanging onto those high paid jobs which keeps millenials out. We are also slowly reaching the point where the houses from the 60-70s are falling apart and becoming unlivable. Those houses were generally high quality and could last 50-60 years. Modern houses built in the last 20 years I would say maybe are good for only 30-…
/r/MensRights03/04/24 05:28 PM
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Men have always been disposable. When you see the typical happy family man, only a small percentage of males will reach that nowadays and there's survivorship bias. The guy that ends up divorced, homeless, or a failure... are mostly invisible in society.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 05:12 PM
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Canadian here and I've been going to several business/investing events where there are often high net worth individuals. These events always have very attractive and nicely dressed Ukrainian women looking for a rich partner.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 05:08 PM
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Despite the current housing unafordability due to fiscal and immigration policy, almost all nations are heading towards a population collapse. That, along with the boomers dying off in the next 20-30 years, AND the fact that many houses are going to be near the end of their usable lives (requiring substantial repairs) ... my prediction is we'll see housing prices drop within the next 20-30 years as supply increases over demand. Home ownership is a good reflection of income, but it's not necessar…
/r/MensRights03/04/24 05:03 PM
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The corporate world is seemingly filled with these. However sometimes I think this isn't a reflection on actual reality because these "successful" types naturally filter to the top of the employment ladder and to top companies. I think the vast majority of men now and throughout history never managed to make it to this "ideal" life as they get filtered out. However we all know that men are disposable and those who fail are mostly forgotten.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 02:29 AM
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Or they're single, but they think they're qualified to be matchmakers/relationship experts because they've gone through many many men. Which is exactly the thing that turns guys off from committing seriously to women like that. Getting a guy to be physically attracted to you is different than getting him willing to put a ring on it.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 02:24 AM
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Women's nature is the same regardless of where you are in the world. Of course they are after a guy's money, but atleast they act feminine and know how to give the illusion that they love you. As a guy, it's very hard to not want companionship from a woman. Just remember that relationships are never unconditional and a guy needs to always be demonstrating his value. It's also super competitive overseas, which means the people aren't stupid. They KNOW how to get what they want from a guy. So be p…
/r/MensRights31/03/24 09:39 PM
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I know people focus on the 6's...but it really isn't just one thing. I also think that although certain qualities can be learned, it's still very hard to change who you inherently are as a person or how you behave. eg. if you're ugly, short, and balding...then all the odds are against you and no matter how much social elegance you have, you're still going to attract the same negative energy from others. Whereas someone born rich and with good looks, will naturally continue to attract good energy…
/r/MensRights24/03/24 07:32 PM
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In 2018 there was still some novelty in using dating apps and the energy was different. Even on Tinder, it was possible to have somewhat decent conversations with women. During covid, it was still okay-ish since it was the only way to meet people. But it's definitely gone downhill significantly since then as everyone is just tired of it. I'm seeing more "in person" dating events like speed dating and whatnot. IMO those still feel very awkward if the hidden intent is dating.
/r/MensRights24/03/24 07:24 PM
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Generally, most men have no problems being the breadwinner and giving it all to support his family. It's an honorable thing and IMO, is something that also gives a man a sense of pride & purpose. However, that's the theory. When you're coming home to a wife that's unappreciative, nagging, combative, and always at risk of cheating...then that puts the man into a depressive state. He almost has no option except keep going. Now think about the worse case scenario where he KNOWS the wife is cheating…
/r/MensRights24/03/24 04:22 PM
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Cheating of any kind of wrong IMO. When guys do it, they know they're doing something wrong. When females do it, they justify it as being ok because they'll convince themselves that the man was abusive or not giving them enough attention. But if the guy doesn't work as hard to bring the $$$, she will also call that as abusive and him as being lazy. There's really no way of winning this. Any woman who is a 7+ will always be presented with the constant temptation to cheat.
/r/MensRights24/03/24 03:45 PM
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There will never be a shortage of simps. If you look at the profile of these men, they are usually the undesireable simps at the bottom who are forgotten by society and invisible. It's kind of sad. They live hopeless, run down lives, and will savor at any opportunity of being acknowledged by a female. Many of them are immigrants, low wage workers in retail/construction, or older men who have spent their lives being cast aside.
/r/MensRights24/03/24 03:39 PM
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Good women still exist, but are VERY rare. It's a combination of being raised appropriately in a nice stable family AND being young enough where they aren't exposed to the realities of the world through social media/online dating. Beyond 30, these good women are almost non existent. Anyone whose had more than a couple partners is most likely a write off and it's moreso men having to settle because we really have no negotiating power in this market. Also, with due respect since your dating experi…
/r/MensRights24/03/24 03:34 PM
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Past the high school/student days, love is entirely transactional and there is no such thing as unconditional love after your 30's. If you're an average guy and a women suddenly starts showing attention to you... it's likely she's just wanting to settle or needing a bailout plan. She may even convince herself that she loves you, but the reality is they are still emotional creatures and that love can change suddenly if the circumstances call for it. You could be in a loving relationship for years…
/r/MensRights24/03/24 03:26 PM
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I'm sorry to say, but you will always be an outsider if you remotely criticize international women's day. Corporations love patting themselves on the back and posting on their socials about how supportive they are towards their women employees. All you will do is hurt yourself in your own career prospects and be treated as the weirdo. I'm not sure what the solution is. Maybe there just needs to be enough critical mass built up online and awareness spread such that most men are aware of these iss…
/r/MensRights24/03/24 03:17 PM
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I'm 35 and almost about to give up too. I've seen the entitled behavior noticeably get worse and worse over time with the women around me to the point where I can hardly stand them anymore. It is 100% from online dating and social media. It's a shame because online dating USED to be fun and novel, but now it's just a grind. I used to be excited chatting with someone and looked forward to planning a fun date. Even when I DO meet women naturally through activities or hobbies...they too exhibit the…
/r/MensRights24/03/24 03:10 PM
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Life has never been fair and a person's life experiences have mostly been determined based under the circumstances they were born under. History has always been particularly harsh because nature DGAF. All the success you see today, for every guy who to managed to have kids or be successful...is built on thousands of other men who have failed and have been lost in the history books. The only difference now is we have the internet and free time to contemplate these things or compare your situation…
/r/MensRights17/03/24 07:47 PM
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That's the extreme side of things. IMO it's more important to recognize that male and female nature are inherently different. The challenges of the modern age is that society encourages some of the negative extremes of certain traits such as through social media or dating apps. There's certain economic and social challenges which exist that subtly shape our behavior.
/r/MensRights12/03/24 02:38 PM
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Just a typical engineer with a frugal lifestyle. Probably what really motivated me to save and invest aggressively was that I got laid off from my first real corporate job right out of school and after only a year. Was a little traumatized from that and dealing with some of the corporate politics, so in my mind I had to become financially free asap.
/r/MensRights03/03/24 04:48 PM
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Don't know about that. They'll drain you just the same. And you'll be expected to support the entire village and conform to weird cultural norms. Women have the same biological instincts regardless of skin color. The image of this foreign woman who is traditional, submissive, and feminine isn't always true. 3rd and 2nd world country women all have access to social/western media just the same. By the time they are 30, they've already been corrupted.
/r/MensRights02/03/24 12:00 AM
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Grass always seems greener on the other side. I'm 35, close to $2M net worth, able to work anywhere remotely, but I live minimally to the point where I'm not feeling that motivated to chase more money or climb the corporate ladder. Eg. If I get let go I'm gonna be ok. I still feel empty due to the challenges of dating, and IMO the freedom feels lonely sometimes when you go at it alone. Being able to travel anywhere (or being a digital nomad) also loses its novelty after a while. You'll meet new …
/r/MensRights01/03/24 05:40 PM
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The majority of women live in the moment and are generally bad with money. The concept of saving and investing for the future is foreign to them, which is why they have an obsession over how much a man makes instead of his net worth. Two distinctly different concepts. A woman will chose the brokeass with a new BMW and penthouse over the quiet millionaire in a Toyota every time. There also does not seem to be any correlation between a woman's earnings and how good she is with money. Even successf…
/r/MensRights29/02/24 09:32 PM
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It's a bit tough navigating the modern dating landscape. I would personally love nothing more than to be able to share my life and build assets together with someone that treats it like their own. But the unfortunate reality is that unless they've put in the time and sacrifice, they really have no idea the value of a dollar. This becomes more challenging with age as it's likely both people come into the relationship with unequal assets. I find it extremely disrespectful when a woman calls a man …
/r/MensRights29/02/24 06:27 PM
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I became a millionaire at ~31 of which I inadvertendly admitted to a woman I was seeing. Was not good enough for her because I gave off cheap vibes and she wanted to be with the typical rich guy for the lifestyle. The vast majority of wealthy folks got there because they're smart with their money. But women have been corrupted by the (social) media into what a wealthy man looks like such that they don't realize those outwardly appearances of wealth is precisely what drains wealth. Millionaires a…
/r/MensRights29/02/24 04:20 PM
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Dating anyone that's an 8 or above is a nightmare. There are certain personality traits that occur from a lifetime of praise and constant attention. I would say borderline psychopathic tendancies. A 6-7 that looks after herself is a much better choice. Men are typically realistic in terms of how they rate themselves. In general, dating someone higher up on the scale is a bad idea as she will always be thinking she can do better and it messes up the power dynamics.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 03:47 PM
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I think it's ridiculous when I see an organization that has to brand themselves as women/black/LGBT/etc... owned. It's absolutely irrelevant and speaks to a sort of victim mindset. I've also seen investment funds that specifically invest in women's only businesses. How the heck is that acceptable and not discriminatory. On a side note, workplaces that are primarily women are absolutely toxic places to be.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 03:38 PM
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This just it. Benefits and money will always be flowing to young and pretty women, inflating their ego. They are almost always bad with their money and lack the ability for delayed gratification (saving and investing) , so when their looks fade they're suddenly shocked and angry at the money drying up. But despite all this, even if they are a 40's single mom there will ALWAYS be a simp willing to save her from her mistake. Some may choose to drop the ego and settle (despite never really respecti…
/r/MensRights24/02/24 02:24 PM
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I'm pretty against any of the woke bs in general. I don't care or have anything against women/minority/gay business leaders or but I absolutely cringe and will avoid any business or organization that has to make it part of their identity. Eg. Anytime they advertise or mention their business in a way where they have to start off with women/black/LGBT/etc... owned. It's absolutely unnecessary and has nothing to do with the product or service.
/r/MensRights24/02/24 02:13 PM
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Decent guys are everywhere, but 99% are invisible. Heck, even their most wanted criteria of a wealthy man... millionaires are everywhere. It's just their dellusion of what millionaires actually are like. The vast majority of comfortably (or future) wealthy people got there because they are smart with their money. But of course the humble guy with an old Toyota doesn't spark the same reaction as the guy financing a newer BMW.
/r/MensRights21/02/24 07:27 PM
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This just it. They're not getting attention from the guys they want, but they still get FAR more attention than 99% of guys. Guys will do all sort of nice gestures for them, but those men are largely invisible. Maybe a very small portion of guys have given up, but it's almost a rounding error. Go on any social media site or Instagram where a woman posts a picture of herself. She'll be bombarded by low value men giving her compliments.
/r/MensRights21/02/24 03:14 AM
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I don't quite buy it IMO. I think this only seems trendy because it's a popular topic on social media/Tik Tok/whatever. The women around me seem to have no shortage of options via online dating. If you look at what's trending online, you'd be thinking that men are finally starting to wise up about dating single moms. Nope, my 36 yr old single mom friend who displays all the typical toxic modern woman traits seemingly has no shortage of simps lining up. The fact of the matter is that unless she's…
/r/MensRights21/02/24 01:43 AM
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Reddit in general is run by the woke left. You don't even have to be super right leaning conservative, even the slight questioning of topics like feminism, LGBT, racial issues, environmental (eg anything remotely critical of green tech).... and you'll get cancelled out.
/r/MensRights16/02/24 06:49 PM
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The woke types will blame rich white old men, but that's only because that's the dominating demographic for western powers. Race really is mostly irrelevant, but rather it's the inequality in wealth that causes these problems. Rich old asian/black/brown men are just as bad as their white counterparts.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 07:04 PM
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These things don't happen overnight, but it feels like in the last few years there has been a rapid wave of awareness towards these issues. You can see it on social media, Youtube, etc as more content creators are tackling these topics. It's still a taboo topic in society, but it's starting to pop up more in casual conversation when men talk whereas 5+ years ago it was a sin to bring it up. It's almost impossible to avoid at this point unless you live under a rock. Then you have extremist person…
/r/MensRights24/01/24 09:20 AM
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Fuck off dude. I'm an asian and I acknowledge my disadvantage in the dating world, but I don't act like a victim about it nor expect any entitlement. Not all immigrants come to the west with an entitled attitude thinking they are owed something, refuse to integrate, or not being thankful they are there. You make do with the hand you're dealt, acknowledge the problem exists, and better yourself in other ways.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 02:57 AM
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Asian males definitely deal with a different social dynamic not only in dating but also other environments like in school or the office. There really isn't outright racism or blatent discrimination like back in the day, but it's very subtle. It's due to how we are perceived by society (eg. we are always the smart nerdy kid in movies), and also from our upbringing (eg. the stereotypical conservative asian parent that raises their kid to be meek and submissive to authority). It's typically VERY ha…
/r/MensRights04/12/23 06:48 PM
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I have no doubt that a man has better chances of being a CEO, leader, or person of authority. But who the hell cares. The average man has almost NO chances of rising to those levels anyways, and I would argue alot of those chances are determined by the environment you are born into. The vast majority of people are just wage slaves. Modern women seem to have this notion that being successful in the business world is fulfilling, when infact the ultimate genuine fulfillment is in having a loving fa…
/r/MensRights24/11/23 05:48 AM
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Because most men are invisible to women. The men they notice who are doing better are those at the top of the food chain, and that's who they are comparing their own situations to. It paints an unrealistic look at what it's like to be a man. I don't necessarily think that neither men or women "have it better" in general, but rather there's pros and cons for each gender. For example, when trying to date...women clearly have it much better. In most workplaces, I do think men have it better...espec…
/r/MensRights23/11/23 04:05 AM
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This is why I have a burner account. I was once posting on the Canada sub (completely irrelevant to gender issues) about how being a landlord kind of sucks and that it's not always worth the risk. Of course that triggered the leftist anti-capitalism crowd to the point where a guy went through my post history and dug up the ONE comment I made on a dating sub about preferring someone younger that hasn't been through a bunch of dudes...as a way to completely invalidate my statement on a totally dif…
/r/MensRights22/11/23 01:04 PM
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It's a far left echochamber for all sort of leftist ideaologies. Not limited to only gender issues but many other topics as well. You can't really talk logic with the left, as it's all emotional and idealogical based.
/r/MensRights22/11/23 12:55 PM
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It's all about social validation. I think most men want to be providers, but the reason it's a bad deal is because every guy is expected to go through the whole song and dance, putting in full effort to chase someone who could very easily just jump onto the next. A man's assets and worth takes years of effort and sacrifice through their time, which they will never get back. Whereas for women, they can easily press the reset button and find a better deal on the market. You see it all the time, a …
/r/MensRights20/11/23 03:12 PM
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Sex and the need to impress women are critical to the modern economy. Without that motivation for competition, the average male would be quite content living in a box with minimal possessions and a peaceful simple life.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 10:18 AM
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Problem is that most women are terrible with their money. The more they earn, the more they seem to fall for the traps of consumerism. Men spend money to elevate their social status in an attempt to impress women. Without this drive, most men would likely be content living a simple life with minimal possessions. Women like to brag about their income and how they make more than men, but fail to understand that while income leads to net worth, it's not the same. If presented with two guys of the s…
/r/MensRights20/11/23 10:10 AM
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Except that nowadays expecting those basic things out of a women is considered misogyny. And since those quality women are limited, men get desperate and settle for any woman willing to look his way thinking they got a great deal wifing up that single mom.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 09:59 AM
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Even if women make more, they're typically worse with budgeting and saving due to the more emotional nature in which they see money. For women, the most logical approach to retirement is to find a guy who can provide that security, whereas for a guy he has to think long term and therefore accumulate/protect his assets.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 09:50 AM
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Currently there's no consequences for a wife to leave a relationship. There's no social taboo as we've normalized single moms. A marriage is a vow, but it's just treated like a cable subscription that you can cancel when you get bored and find a better deal. I would understand the concept of child support if the wife gave up her career to raise the family. But if the wife is still maintaining her job, or came into the relationship having less than the man... why should she get half the stuff? Es…
/r/MensRights01/11/23 01:30 PM
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The reality is that any single mom that looks half attractive will have no problems finding a simp agreeing to take her and her kids in. Single moms will continue to behave the way they do because there's no consequences of their actions.
/r/MensRights01/11/23 12:25 AM
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I would've thought that's common sense but some guys simp too hard. Imagine taking on someone elses kid, treating them as your own, or even paying for their college... only for them to be completely out of your life one day with you having nothing to show for it. The fact is, committing to a single mom is giving a free handout no matter how strong independent she insists she is. Everytime you go out for a meal, travel, or buy presents you are always providing for another person that never wanted…
/r/MensRights22/10/23 12:45 PM
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Exactly, no self respecting mom or dad would want their son to bring a single mom back into the family. It would be so shameful for the family.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 12:39 PM
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I'm not talking about extremeist crazy right wing types, but rather the educated conservatives that tend to have more traditional values and have real jobs. The woke left leaning types tend to be loud mouthed feminists who need to have an opinion on everything,
/r/MensRights22/10/23 04:08 AM
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Guys have no idea what they are getting into with single moms. It's because they are thinking with their dick and think they're special when every other dude has failed in the past. When you date a single mom, you WILL be judged by everyone including your family who is likely thinking how big of a simp you are...but may be too polite to tell that to your face. Newsflash, that single mom is not special at all and you can likely find someone just as good but without the baggage and liability. The …
/r/MensRights22/10/23 03:54 AM
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Were there no red flags that you saw early on? For a young guy, it's so easy to have the blinders on and refuse to acknowledge certain red flags even when they are so obvious when looking back in hindsight.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 03:47 AM
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Yea totally. After 30 it's SO easy to get complacent. The best thing for a guy to do in his 20s is to do everything he can to set himself up in his 30's+ because it becomes exponentially harder afterwards. This applies to finances, health, career, everything. There is a compounding effect in that even small decisions/habits that you make early on, can make a big difference later on. Finances is a great example. Start building your net worth early and let that money work for you. It can make a va…
/r/MensRights22/10/23 03:45 AM
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It still baffles me why any decent dude would remotely consider taking a single mom seriously and thinking that's a good deal. It's a lose lose situation no matter how you look at it. Not only are they a huge liability, but their standards are often times way higher than the average woman due to kids being involved.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 02:10 AM
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This exactly. I'd have no problem being a provider for the right woman, and I would go as far to say that most guys want to do that. But I sure as heck ain't going to wife up someone who wouldn't have even turned an eye for me when I was in my 20's...only to suddenly have a change of heart now that I'm relatively successful in my 30-40s. I would definitely never wife someone up without dating them for atleast 5+ years. While they were having fun in their 20's travelling and partying, I was build…
/r/MensRights21/10/23 11:34 PM
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The only women worth considering for long term relationship material are the conservative ones. Left leaning woke types are always going to be trouble.
/r/MensRights21/10/23 07:25 PM
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I think the dating landscape has, and will continue to change. Online dating >5 years ago used to not be as bad and there was still a level of excitement. Nowadays, IMO both sides are mentally drained by the process. It's turned into just another transactional interview where it's pointless for guys to put in any effort into dates, hence the coffee & walk date. Online dating isn't going away, but where I think this will go is as the current crop of dateable women get older, they start getting mo…
/r/MensRights21/10/23 07:24 PM
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And in addition to that, paying into your ex who will be using that money to travel and have fun with other dudes. At your expense.
/r/MensRights05/10/23 07:39 PM
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Anyone that's been around women knows this. They always need some simp guy to be their emotional validation when things go wrong. When things are going great with a new boy toy, she'll forget about the simp and only reach out when things get bad again. Women don't like being accountable, so the purpose of this guy is to tell her what she wants to hear for validation. Also why women go to therapists because they'll always present themselves as the victim and get a professional to tell them what t…
/r/MensRights04/10/23 12:21 PM
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Or you live minimally, don't give into consumerism bullshit like everyone else and have true freedom by minimizing your liabilities. Corporations and the modern world require "yes men." Which would be alright if we actually got something out of it, such as maybe a loving family and wife to go home to. But now that's just a rare dream because women don't even want us. And when they do, it's because they need you for something and they bring a bunch of baggage with them. Imagine if guys started sa…
/r/MensRights03/10/23 11:30 PM
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They say the vacation home is worth $1.5m but there's no mention if it's paid off or still mortgaged (eg. how much equity is in it). Either way, he's lucky that got recognized by the judge as being split. However, still a messy situation and hard to feel sorry for the guy. This is the risk you take on for dating single moms and letting them into your life. Guys seemingly never realize this and think "this time will be different."
/r/MensRights03/10/23 11:42 AM
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There's a difference between being a simp vs a gentleman or a family man. Nothing wrong with being a dedicated family man for a woman that truly deserves it (which are not many these days). Guys just have a hard time realizing this and they set their expectations too low for one of the most important life decisions. Eg. Simps letting single moms into their lives. It's like you're projecting your insecurity with women to validate your own chosen (or not) lifestyle.
/r/MensRights03/10/23 11:28 AM
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You're using a one off anomaly to support your point which is silly. The fact of the matter is, any normal male is wired a certain way, of which that being the pursuit of women to reproduce with. If they didn't behave that way, our species would be extinct. You can act like you're better than everyone else if you want, but that's just denying the harsh reality.
/r/MensRights02/10/23 11:58 PM
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The most sucessful guys have a woman that supports them and betters them. How is that a redpill narrative. It's simple, two teammates can achieve a better outcome than one individual. But consequentially, being with the wrong woman can also destroy you. Any single guy/woman can claim they are strong independent all they want and making tons of money, but without family... then over time it becomes meaningless. Also this is why traditionally having a strong family has been an important, almost ne…
/r/MensRights02/10/23 11:59 AM
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This is true. Women WILL go above and beyond for a man that she truly has lust for. But they really mostly end up settling for guys. Reason being is they always have a desire for the bad boy and think they can change him, but they slowly realize the steady boring guy is better for the long term. They don't really lust for the boring guy the same way, but moreso that he's good enough to settle for after she's done having fun and playing around.
/r/MensRights02/10/23 02:10 AM
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Conservative women are the most pleasant and reasonable to deal with. Unfortunately they are getting rarer.
/r/MensRights01/10/23 02:06 PM
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Because those women know how to play victim and get sympathy. Anytime you run into an older woman down on her luck, don't take that situation at face value. Often times they put themselves into that situation by the decisions they made or the men they chose to let into their lives.
/r/MensRights01/10/23 02:04 PM
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Men can very happily live a basic and spartan life. What motivates them is to be better in order to impress a mate, then to look after his family. If the juice is not worth the squeeze, then they realize maybe it's less risky to simply opt out. Eg: they go through the gauntlet of modern dating only to end up with an unappreciative woman would could divorce him at any point and take half his stuff. Family and women are the only things keeping a man subservent to the system. Without men tied down …
/r/MensRights01/10/23 01:56 PM
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This is classic for how the left in general approaches their ideaologies. They take things out of context and cherry pick the narrative. Like for example, their core narrative of going against the patriarchy and being strong independent. Yes, the traditional system was one where men were leaders of a heirarchy from politics, to the workplace, and the home. But it's not all glam and glory as presented in social media. With those positions come responsibility, and accountability. Failure IS a very…
/r/MensRights01/10/23 12:34 PM
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This is classic for how the left in general approaches their ideaologies. They take things out of context and cherry pick the narrative. Like for example, their core narrative of going against the patriarchy and being strong independent. Yes, the traditional system was one where men were leaders of a heirarchy from politics, to the workplace, and the home. But it's not all glam and glory as presented in social media. With those positions come responsibility, and accountability. Failure IS a very…
/r/MensRights01/10/23 12:34 PM
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This is classic for how the left in general approaches their ideaologies. They take things out of context and cherry pick the narrative. Like for example, their core narrative of going against the patriarchy and being strong independent. Yes, the traditional system was one where men were leaders of a heirarchy from politics, to the workplace, and the home. But it's not all glam and glory as presented in social media. With those positions come responsibility, and accountability. Failure IS a very…
/r/MensRights01/10/23 12:34 PM
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I think it's moreso that the ideology of feminism naturally attracts the narcists and psychopathic types of women. It's selling the dream of empowerment, telling them they don't have to be accountable, and that they deserve certain things. Then there is an in-group bias whereby surrounding themselves with other toxic people of this ideology, they positively reinforce and validate each other that this is correct, which further corrupts the mind. Any intelligent and rational woman who does not hav…
/r/MensRights30/09/23 08:46 PM
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Feminism pushes for women to get all the so called perceived benefits of being a man, without any of the downsides or responsibilities that come with it. They are quick to call for equality when it benefits them, but when it doesn't, they are quick to make excuses and backtrack. Bring up topics like: being drafted for war, working hard labor/dirty jobs, or paying for dates and see how quickly they'll change their tone.
/r/MensRights30/09/23 06:37 PM
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This is my issue with the LGBT community. Making a big deal over something trivial to stirr the controversy. I quite literally have no problems with trans people, but if you ask me, yes a trans woman is a man. There's nothing transphobe stating an obvious and rational fact. IMO forcing people to change their preconcieved and natural instinct to consider a trans woman a man is anti-truth and dishonest. If we are going down the path of tolerance and acceptance for everyone we might as well also fo…
/r/MensRights30/09/23 10:56 AM
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This exactly. People are associating not agreeing with every single trans narrative as being transphobe which is not true. I rarely meet people who are truly anti-trans or anti-gay....those tend to be extreme right wing nut jobs or super religious types. I think people just don't feel the need to have every trans ideology forced upon them to accept. Like this discussion for example, why are we even talking about trans people...it's irrelevant to the topic.
/r/MensRights30/09/23 02:20 AM
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People seem to take being against LGBT ideology as being against LGBT people. I have no problems with LGBT people. What I do have a problem with is the ideology always having to be subtly introduced into every aspects of modern life. eg. Schools being mandated to teach about LGBT issues, the encouraging of using pronouns, companies changing their logos with the rainbow to be hip, etc..
/r/MensRights30/09/23 01:18 AM
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Male simps are just as much to blame. Guys validate feminist's ideologies by simping. There's a distinct difference between being a gentleman and looking after your lady vs being an outright simp.
/r/MensRights30/09/23 01:14 AM
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Reddit is basically left, or ultra woke left and presents a false narrative on what the general population's stance is on these topics. For these sort of topics you have way more freedom of speech on Facebook/Twitter/Youtube comments. Just check out any similar topic and see the responses you get on Reddit vs those platforms. Also if you are a man who wants a relationship to be successful, you should NEVER under and circumstances give up your career for a woman. She WILL over time lose respect f…
/r/MensRights29/09/23 08:58 PM
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This is a tricky one. While I have no doubt some guys are just assholes, you also have to question when a female accuses all of her exes as being abusive and narcissistic. She chose him at some point in time under her free will. It's usually not solely one person's fault that a relationship degrades. A guy doesn't just become violent overnight. What triggered him or pressured him to start getting angrier and angrier?
/r/MensRights29/09/23 07:04 PM
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This is the first time I've heard about there being a difference between traditional vs woke feminism. The original form of feminism was where they truly were fighting for something meaningful, like women's rights on voting, education, ownership of assets. Now they're just borderline terrorists, ruining families and destroying society.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 06:57 PM
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No one is saying to discriminate against LGBT people, but when schools and workplaces start to have mandatory lessons in recognition of any minority group or pushing for everyone to have to use pronouns... then where do you draw the line? Whether we are talking about LGBT, BLM, or feminism, the issue at hand here is that a small minority's ideology is being forced upon the masses.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 06:52 PM
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I would make the argument that all these ideologies fall under the woke left's culture war. They've pushed these narratives into our education system, workplace, media, and politics. This applies to things like LGBT issues, race (eg. BLM), and gender (eg. feminism). You don't even have to be anti any of these ideologies. The simple statement of not wanting to follow these ideologies or questioning them... will get you labelled as a bigot. The only free speech you are allowed is that of support t…
/r/MensRights29/09/23 01:25 PM
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The woke left is just so absolutely idiotic these days that I can't help but lean right towards the conservative side. Atleast you can have a rational discussion with the right. With the left, any questioning of the narrative and you're labelled as a bigot/incel. This applies to topics of climate/gender/race/LGBT issues. I recently discovered Matt Walsh on Youtube and the guy absolutely nails things on the head when it comes to the delusions of the woke left.
/r/MensRights28/09/23 04:11 AM
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Thanks for the feedback! My assets are in ETFs in my brokerage account, but I accumulated them myself so they're not any sort of inheritance. I am also the sole director of my business which also has it's own separate corporate margin account where I invest my business's assets. What do you mean "don't use the assets within your marriage"? eg. If I were to buy a house, I would likely have to liquidate some of that to make a downpayment. Usually I would've thought that a guy would consult a lawye…
/r/MensRights28/09/23 02:52 AM
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Very well said. Today's dating culture is absolutely toxic. Women are told from a young age they are special and they have options, so this mentality carries on even when they are in a serious relationship. Which is why a guy can never let his guard down. Back in the day, relationships were bounded by a certain necessity to be together. The social structure also shamed divorcees and single moms. Which incentivized people to stay together. Nowadays, marriage is no different than a gym contract...…
/r/MensRights27/09/23 10:42 PM
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Could you please elaborate on the assets part before marriage and how you managed to come out with minimal damage despite no pre nup? What are some tips you would tell your younger self about how to structure that? I'm in my early 30s with a net worth in excess of $1M and chances are whoever I end up with will likely bring much less to the table financially.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 10:36 PM
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Yea those younger men just go along because they are usually simps or have no direction in their lives so they almost like having a strong experienced woman dominate them. For most men, there is an inherent desire to be a provider and lead. Being with an older woman, or even the strong independent types... goes against that. That's why if a guy wants to start a normal healthy family it's better to go for someone younger and more submissive. That has always been true throughout many cultures and …
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:17 PM
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Women into older men and guys into younger women is just normal biological wants. Women into significantly older men are just gold diggers.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:07 PM
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They like young guys for the validation. eg. a 40 yr old cougar getting attention from a young 30 yr old stud is affirming that she's still attractive enough. In reality though, young guys who get into relationships with older women are simps or have mommy issues (Eg. raised by a single mom)
/r/MensRights27/09/23 02:43 AM
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If you are a short/ugly/obese white male I can pretty much guarantee they will not experience any priviledge over the average black dude. Looks and height matter way more than race, yet no one would ever dare to bring that up as an oppressed minority group. It's more accepted to simply point at them and call them incels.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 05:11 PM
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It's the woke narrative by the left. I myself am a minority for fucks sake. I don't doubt there are indeed perceptions based in race, but in this day and age in a modern country racism is largely irrelevant. Factors such as looks, height, and wealth are far more important in determining how you are treated. How come we never talk about equality in that.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 04:32 PM
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I almost think the vast majority of people feel some sort of anxiety of modern life. If not dating, then career and cost of living issues. There's always something to worry about. But no doubt it would be alot easier navigating these waters with a suitable companion. The right partner can absolute elevate your life experience, but consequentially, the wrong one will absolutely destroy you.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 02:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure height and looks play a bigger part in determining a person's success vs race or gender. How come no one ever asks for equality for short and ugly people? Oh right, it's just more sensational making it about suppressed minority groups.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 02:49 PM
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The brainwashing starts at a young age as kids are conditioned to accept this narrative. I've been out of university for a decade and when I visited, was surprised to outright see posters advertising left leaning groups like feminism, socialism, or communism. That hardly happened even a decade ago. Or even look at modern day cartoons. They aren't even entertaining anymore where the characters can just do stupid shit. The topics are careful to be appropriate and you often see them having same sex…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 01:23 PM
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Part of it is possibly that deep inside they secretly know...but don't want to their suspicions validated. It's almost happier to just be a simp and live in ignorance. Or sometimes they're just blinded and think that she possibly can't be like that because this one is different.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 03:54 AM
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Because deep inside, women know that typically they're only going to be in a relationship with a man who brings more to the table financially. They demand equality but they never want to date someone who is their equal. Ask any women who out earns or is wealthier than the man if she has any problems with a prenup and guaranteed she would be fully supportive of it.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 03:51 AM
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I agree with the suggestions to get off the apps and meet people organically in real life. I know it's easier said than done. It's extremely tiring going through the same routine on the apps, and I think even the females are getting sick of it. I think it's just simply not natural to meet someone under what's effectively an interview process and expect to click just like that. The best connections happen organically from solving problems or doing activities together naturally. Apps highlight the…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 03:45 AM
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The reason why men's right issues won't be solved is because just talking about it is a huge taboo. It's part of a bigger narrative these days largely shaped by the woke left where you can't be remotely critical of race/gender topics without being labelled as a bigot. It takes a huge amount of courage for any politician or public figure to broach these topics as they risk getting cancelled. You're only allowed free speech as long as it's in support of the narrative. So everyone just takes the sa…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 03:36 AM
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I look towards asia as an example of what's to come. I would almost argue that they've played the capitalist game better than the west and the result was: - Economy tumbles and things become increasingly competitive/difficult. Young people not even interested in dating. Women's standards remain just as dellusional with the demand for a house and a car, of which realistically only a small % of men can achieve. So they'll just continue to hold out until they become leftovers. - Birth rates absolut…
/r/MensRights19/09/23 11:02 PM
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Trying to find someone after 30 who doesn't have a whole lot of untolerable red flags is getting next to impossible. I really do think that the older they get and the more partners/life experiences they've had, the more jaded they become and also less lovable. You'd have to be an absolute total simp to look at that and be like "oh gee, what a great deal I'm getting to invite that into my life." I don't think my expectations are even that unreasonable. IMO the 6-7's typically have a much better p…
/r/MensRights13/09/23 04:00 AM
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The so called patriarchy would mean there's some sort of systematic discrimination against women. I would like the OP to explain exactly where is it legislated that women have less or un-preferential treatment. There is none. There is also no way there will ever be true equality. IMO, social class and looks/intelligence will influence a person's life experience far more than their gender or race.
/r/MensRights12/09/23 07:16 PM
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There's no shortage of thirsty guys that would be willing to commit and take care of these leftover women, but the problem is those sort of guys don't usually meet their standard.
/r/MensRights12/09/23 06:59 PM
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This is basically it. Most men they see as NPCs. The warehouse worker, the guy working at the grocery store. They're largely oblivious to the efforts and sacrifices men have to make to get to where they are. It's much easier waiting at the finish line to cross together, than to go through the race with someone still running it.
/r/MensRights29/08/23 11:49 AM
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For them, their only way out is a bailout from a successful man. It's rare, but sometimes they do manage to pull it off if they've maintained their looks. But for the vast majority of them they end up settling for a good enough simp. I think single moms have troubles dating, but still not nearly as hard as for the average man. There's always an abundance of simps willing to step in.
/r/MensRights29/08/23 11:07 AM
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In my view, any guy that's sticking around for his kid and making payments in a non deadbeat sort of way (aka. being able to keep down a job and not avoiding payments) is likely not as bad as these single moms seem to claim them to be. They're always taking on a victim mentality mindset without ever acknowledging that maybe they made some mistakes in their life. Some new guy will always think she's a great catch and will side when her when she rants about how her ex is abusive and narcissistic. …
/r/MensRights29/08/23 03:56 AM
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I went on a date recently with a girl I wasn't feeling the attraction to but she has a kind heart. The dinner was $100 and she offered to split the bill because she genuinely didn't feel I should front a bill like that. I immediately just paid for it, not a big deal. When they don't act entitled it actually makes a guy want to do stuff for you.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 06:34 PM
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What kind of support were you providing in the first place? For a traditionally feminine, loyal, and kind hearted woman, I have no problem with a guy playing the traditional role as provider. I actually enjoy treating someone who is genuinely kind hearted and generous (very rare). But most women now are not traditional, so why give them the traditional treatment? The biggest turn off for a guy to want to pamper someone is if they are entitled. And it's not just dating, but even going out with fe…
/r/MensRights28/08/23 03:49 PM
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It could have been just one wrong thing that you said, did, or body language that made her change her mind. That's just how it is. IMO if you made it to 3 dates you've already done better than most dates in the modern dating landscape. Women expect to "feel a connection" which is subject to so many things. Connection is built through time and going through difficult times together. Now they just expect it to happen right away, but deep inside they already have a set of metrics and and expect a g…
/r/MensRights28/08/23 01:20 PM
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Men and women bring different things of value to the table. That's not to say one is more important than the other. Traditionally the expectation for men was to be the provider, and the woman to keep the family in order. It was entirely reasonable for assets to be shared amongst the couple because together they are one. I do believe in accountability in the sense that both parties are incentivized to stay together. For the man, he puts his assets on the line and in return he gets femininity and …
/r/MensRights26/08/23 04:21 PM
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I'm so glad I'm in engineering where there really is no touchy feely crap except for maybe the occasional HR mandated diversity and inclusion training activities. I've been out of school for a decade and I recently visited the campus again. What really surprised me was just the left-ist push into those spaces. There were posters outright promoting socialism, rent strikes, libertarianism, feminism, gender equality, etc. I never saw stuff like this when I was a student. I used to think I was a bit…
/r/MensRights26/08/23 04:04 PM
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Many fields of soft sciences/humanities/arts have the same problem in that they attract only the sort of people who have a similar group think. Outliers become outcasts. Like in the car sales business, any honest salesman has long gone out of business. IMO, alot of it starts from our education systems becoming over-run with a leftist narrative.
/r/MensRights26/08/23 03:10 PM
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The reason why the redpill ideology is gaining so much traction is because as guys go through their interactions with women, they slowly realize how redpill explains so much of it accurately and predictably. Redpill stuff is extremely uncomfortable and I would love for it to be untrue...but women keep proving it right. Every time a woman rejects, ghost, or cheats on a man... it pushes him ever slightly towards that direction. The redpill originated from women. It was merely men who observed and …
/r/MensRights25/08/23 06:18 PM
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In difficult times, men tend to become more closed off and distance themselves from others. This is when they isolate themselves in their own thoughts to figure things out. Women tend to reach out to all their friends or get therapy to get positive validation. This is where all her female friends positively reinforce her belief that she is the victim who did nothing wrong and the guy was the abusive narcissistic asshole. Of course this starts to spread to his social groups as well to the point w…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:53 PM
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They want a man that will take care of them and behave in a traditional way, but they themselves are not traditional. Eg. Having too many partners, want to be strong independent, and feel insulted at the prospect of being feminine. What they want is shaped by emotion, but what's practical is contradictory to everything they say. I do blame mainstream and social media, as well as modern dating culture for brainwashing everyone with unrealistic expectations.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:26 PM
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Same. There was a phase in my life where I hung out with more females than males and it actually made me realize how toxic, dellusional, and hyprocritical they are. They're completely emotion driven and no amount of logic is possible in trying to convince a women out from whatever she believes is true.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 05:20 PM
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People naturally like to look to be able to blame others for their problems instead of being accountable to their situation. Usually race or sex is an easy and obvious one. I have no doubt that some are dealt with a shitty hand, but I guarantee that even if we replaced all leaders/CEOs with non white females that it would not make anything better.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 04:58 PM
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The average man experiences no benefits from this so called patriarchy. It's a fake term coined by feminists to divide men and women. Our systems is what is corrupt and it's independent of sex or race. The same power dynamics apply whether you are working for or under the leadership of an asian female vs a white male. The natural world has always favored those with psychopathic and narcissistic tendancies. I can pretty much guarantee that if we overthrew all our current leaders/CEOs and replaced…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 03:16 PM
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I think more people are realizing this. I think even historically things have always been extremely tough. There's a bit of survivorship bias in that we only hear from those who ran the race and were successful at it. Not to mention that the media and movies give a false view of what life is like for the average person. Eg. Homer Simpson supporting a family and large house on a worker's salary. It would be really interesting if there was some study that took a complete random sampling of 100 (or…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 03:01 PM
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I feel you. I have a female friend who tells me everything which has been an eye opener. The thing is, they truly do dellude themselves into thinking it's all the guy's fault without considering the context of what started to drive a normal loving guy mad over time. They can't even give exact examples of what makes him abusive. Has he ever hit you or was violent? No. It's just a feeling for them. IMO, any guy that makes an effort to stay in the kid's life is probably a decent dude. And there wil…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 04:39 AM
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It is if you're the top 5% of men who have wealth and power. Those guys control the world and are who women are usually referring to in trying to get equality with. Eg. CEOs, leaders, celebrities, people in positions of power. Problem is, the majority of men are average and NOT like that. But of course to women, the average man is invisible so there's a delluded sense of what they think being a man is like. What you also don't see is behind every successful man like that is a woman supporting an…
/r/MensRights25/08/23 04:30 AM
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So sorry to hear. And she probably plays victim to convince the kid, her friends, and the new man that you're the abusive and narcissist one. All while trying to milk child support as much as she can so that you're effectively funding her trips, nights out, or whatever fun she might be having with other dudes. Really sucks that there's not much guys can do about this.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 08:40 PM
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While I have no doubt some really shitty deadbeat men exists, the women also needs to have some accountability in terms of letting these guys into their lives in the first place. Also, women treat marriage like a gym contract that they can back out when they're not feeling the excitement anymore. They'll proclaim "I dont need no man" but have no shame in playing the victim to maximize child support payments. This man is right, we should stop encouraging single moms. Throughout all of human histo…
/r/MensRights24/08/23 05:03 PM
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Very well put. Women play the emotional manipulation game very well, often times they don't even know they are doing it. Every man has experienced this and has given in to it at some point in time. It could be years of subtle emotional manipulation where she trains her man to do what she wants.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 04:05 PM
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No hymen no diamond. More men should stand by that.
/r/MensRights24/08/23 04:01 PM
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Many women are truly good to their husbands. The caveat to that is those situations only occur when she KNOWS she can't do any better. Usually due to age and declining looks. If you constantly bombard a loyal married woman with better options, the thought will eventually cross her mind. That's why a relationship requires constant work and there's no such thing as unconditional love. If a dude loses his job or gets into some disfiguring accident... you can be fairly certain she is going to leave …
/r/MensRights24/08/23 03:52 PM
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No one is saying women should be disrespected and forced to stay at home. The people here want actual equality and not double standards. The goal is absolutely for two people to love each other unconditionally and tie the knot. The problem is men have realized how shitty of a deal marriage is for them. Not only do they get shafted in the event of a divorce, but most older women are not wife material especially if she's coming into a marriage with a high body count and acting like her past doesn'…
/r/MensRights23/08/23 07:59 PM
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A man traditionally would have no problem being a provider because he knew he was coming come to a loyal, loving woman that appreciated his efforts. He was working towards their future together. You can't trust that to be the case anymore. She can truly love you one day, but in the event of trouble you can be guaranteed she's on the app swiping for a better option.
/r/MensRights23/08/23 10:27 AM
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That is well said and highlights the problem. Most men would love nothing more to marry and put in all his efforts for someone. But marriage is a traditional concept and most women are not traditional themselves. They come into a marriage having had their fun with multiple partners, and now you get to invest all your resources into her. But when times get tough (eg. lose your job), how do you know that she will stay when she knows the next suitor offering better is just a swipe away? There's not…
/r/MensRights23/08/23 10:19 AM
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That's the ideal theory, which was possible before social media and dating app culture bombarded women with constant validation. Now it's easier for them to find a new exciting partner instead of fixing an existing relationship. Women naturally are looking for the best candidate whereas men are thinking about where it's worthwhile to invest their efforts. I think most men would love nothing more than to find the one, and commit everything he has for her. But now he knows that's risky so a smart …
/r/MensRights23/08/23 10:05 AM
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Dating has always been tougher if you weren't the top 20% of looks or social ability. After school, it's quite tough to meet eligible partners and even tougher with age when your social circles start settling down. Nowadays, apps are one of the primary ways to meeting dates and people are just exhausted over the assembly line process. The dating app phenomenon really took off after Tinder became a hit with the swiping style of matching. It really affected the dynamics of dating and further exace…
/r/MensRights23/08/23 09:54 AM
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It benefits society by keeping people accountable to each other. Two people working together can accomplish far more than alone. Behind every great man, was a great woman. Atleast traditionally that's how it's been. Nowadays it's all messed up. Most men would love nothing more than to take a vow for a great woman who he can trusts to support him no matter what. That doesn't exist anymore as they are always bombarded with the idea that they can do better. A woman can claim she loves a guy, but as…
/r/MensRights23/08/23 12:09 AM
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Good thing I'm never having children.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 11:52 PM
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I've realized this too. Conservative women are the most pleasant to be around. Although I'm typically pretty progressive, as I get more exposed to what the current leftist woke idealogies have become, I can't help but become more conservative.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 05:08 PM
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People often don't like to be reminded of or admit how futile their own situation is. There's pros and cons for every decision. I am fully aware and accountable to the fact that I am considered less dateable, but IMO the guarantee of future financial stability/freedom is worth more to me than a slightly higher (but not guaranteed) chance of being able to date.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 02:41 PM
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That's always how it's been. I'm fine with that, men are providers and women offer their youth/fertility. But modern culture and our economic system (of debt) promotes people to give the fake appearance of success. If you think about it, the vast majority of people can't actually afford the house or car they "own." They only can be considered as being able to afford the payments.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 12:40 PM
2

You didn't answer the above person's question on how your life is going. Presumably you have your own place, great work. But how's your finances? Job stability? Net worth? Retirement planning? Do you own the place or are you renting (but with plans to buy your own)?
/r/MensRights22/08/23 12:23 PM
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Unfortunately the concept of net worth is lost to most women. They typically only care about income and what "stuff" a guy has, even if he's in deep debt to get it.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 02:14 AM
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Not to mention that the concept of net worth is oblivious to most women. They moreso look at a guy's income and how nice this things are.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 02:11 AM
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I chip in for expenses and I do a whole lot of stuff like manage my parent's properties + look after their retirement planning. There's a different mentality between east vs west cultures and people in the west seem to have a hard time believing that parents actually enjoy having their grown kids around. There is only "we" not "my money" vs "your money" in our family. eg. Both my parent's vehicles needed new tires so I just spent $2k on new tires for them. The thought of asking for money back do…
/r/MensRights22/08/23 02:07 AM
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I think you're just associating the stereotypical basement dweller. I have a fairly normal social life and can communicate with people just fine. I go to normal corporate events, interact with clients, and lead $30M+ projects, so I'm pretty sure I'm not socially inept. I don't look down on the average employee...if that's what makes them happy then so be it. But it's pretty clear that most people would probably rather not be working.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 02:03 AM
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Why, so I can be a wage slave like everyone else?
/r/MensRights22/08/23 01:53 AM
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I did live on my own for years. Following that traditional "ideal" image of success. It was incredibly lonely and tiring. Living on your own as a single unmarried person is quite frankly a bit of a scam IMO. I do the exact same housework living with family, althought much less since we can take turns and split. I would also argue that I've learned way more practical skills being at home because my family house has a garage and space to build/fix things. No way I would've been fixing cars in a cr…
/r/MensRights21/08/23 09:27 PM
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If I was even remotely confident of our social and economic systems, yea I'd love to move out. But I'm not, so I prioritized hoarding investments as quickly and aggressively as I could. While it seems silly for a paper millionaire to complain about worrying too much to buy a house, the reality is that I've already been laid off 3 times by the time I was 30 and I saw how it can absolutely devastating and set people back (my colleagues) later on in life who don't have a safety net.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 09:16 PM
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Yup I'm aware of that. I was previously a home owner and had multiple rentals. The ROI I got from my rentals (accounting for the post covid boom) was higher than the total returns from a passive index fund, but not so significantly more to be worth the risk and headache. Now I'd rather not be tied down by physical assets.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 09:10 PM
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Yup well aware of that. Next house I'd likely put it under my mom's name. Chances are, any girl I date will likely have a lower net worth than me. I'm perfectly ok with that as I don't care how much she makes, but definitely not marrying without a pre nup.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 08:31 PM
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It's a good point. A girl who has stayed at home longer also means she's likely not inviting every random dude into her house.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 07:49 PM
1

I was travelling with a friend and in one night where she was bored, she just opens up Tinder and within an hour has dinner plans from a simp willing to take her out and tour thr city.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 02:57 PM
1

It's to play the victim card. I don't doubt there's some really shitty men out there, but there's also a personal accountability part of this where they knowingly let these toxic guys into their lives in the first place. eg. going for the bad boys and ignoring the red flags. Kind of like how if a simp gets screwed over after getting himself into a relationship with a single mom...kind of hard to feel sorry for him.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 03:57 AM
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The word "toxic", "abusive", and "narcissist" are used so much to describe any behavior she doesn't like to the point where it's meaningless now.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 08:20 PM
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It's not uncommon for women to keep a roster of "good men" that they could *maybe* see themselves with in the future if incase she doesn't find someone or if they become successful later. She won't want a relationship with them just yet because there could be someone better out there so she might as well explore. But ironically, if these good men find girlfriends and stop giving her attention, she's become resentful.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 08:18 PM
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If she's ok telling women to trade up, then she should not complain when those men also decide to take that advice and trade for newer when the women he's with gets older and starts loosing her looks.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 03:26 PM
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For #2, it applies to so many things in life. For a guy, they have to invest considerable time and money just to pursue someone...with a decent chance it could fail. So a smart man should test the waters before deciding which one to commit fully to. Whereas a girl gets all these applications and gets the luxury in picking the best one.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 03:24 PM
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By the time a "good man" has gone through the ringer of modern dating, by the time he's high value enough he's likely not the same naïve simp anymore. Women say they want a good man, but really they don't. They'd moreso take a high value toxic guy over a simp that makes average income but would treat her good any day.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 03:18 PM
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Ah yes, the power of invisibility. I would argue the average women will eventually experience that once she hits 35. Someone good looking that maintains herself might be able to keep getting attention until 40.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 03:12 PM
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The priority of governments is moreso to maintain social stability. I wouldn't be surprised if a single digit percentage of men out there are unknowingly acting as fathers for kids that aren't their own. If they suddenly found out, there'd be a wave of newly emerged single mothers putting a drain on social services. Now you get more broken households, and more kids growing up to be criminals. Unfortunately as a society there's hardly any consequences for failing at accountability.
/r/MensRights20/08/23 01:49 AM
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There's pretty much no argument you can say to change someone's mind about a prenup, even if it catches them in their own hypocrisy. Eg: I usually like to twist it around and say if your brother/son had money and wanted to marry someone poor, would you be ok with him not having a prenup? SE women are especially bad about this because they claim it under the guise of commitment, but it's really a one sided argument. They expect the man to be more successful than her, and they eventually expect th…
/r/MensRights19/08/23 01:46 PM
1

Simps fall under many categories. It's not just the neckbeard minimum wage retail worker, but there also exists many average looking dudes working professional jobs as engineers and doctors who would would glady simp for a single mom.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 09:02 PM
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Nah, if she's moderately attractive or shows any attention to a simp, they'll do anything for her. Around 30 is when she starts seeing her friends settle, starts running out of people to party with, and she starts realizing how precarious her finances are.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 06:54 PM
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Even a knocked up single mom will have no problems in her 30s and 40s finding a simp willing to put a ring on her finger. Just depends on how much she's willing to lower her expectations. They do usually get to a point of realization that working sucks and having a simp step up is a way better choice. The welfare queen types are on the extreme end of the scale who have really fucked up their lives (from drugs/alcohol).
/r/MensRights17/08/23 11:28 AM
1

Wtf how is that even justified if you have 50-50 split custody?
/r/MensRights10/08/23 09:41 PM
1

Contrary to what the feminists would have everyone think, the amount of men who are crazy enough to do something stupid like that is very very small. Most men tend to be decent people that actually want to be in their kid's lives. The path to self deletion doesn't happen right away. They get ground down, bit by bit over time and when they self delete it's quickly brushed to the side and we forget about them. There's stats on male suicides, but no one is taking stats on how much of that is direct…
/r/MensRights10/08/23 09:37 PM
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It's so absolutely terrifying hearing everyone's stories so thanks to all for sharing. So many guys go through life oblivious to this, and seemingly as soon as they meet a pretty girl willing to give them any attention, all logic goes out the window and they don't think this could happen to them. What further is a kick in the nuts is that most of that money isn't going to the kids. She's spending that money on partying, eating out, and basically hooking up with other guys on your dime. The only …
/r/MensRights10/08/23 08:50 PM
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I would argue that obesity IS something you can control, even if you have bad genetics. Height, less so. But of course it's funny laughing at short men as it's more socially accepted.
/r/MensRights09/08/23 08:48 PM
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I would have no problems paying on dates or doing traditional man things IF the person I'm courting is also a traditional woman. Nowadays you're competing against a multitude of other men simping for her, a high body count, an entitled attitude, and no house making skills (Door Dashing each meal instead of cooking).
/r/MensRights08/08/23 08:52 PM
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I would personally love to see a movement boycotting marriage in general. Until the laws get fixed, it's a complete scam. IMO, marriage is a traditional concept for a traditional woman. If she's got a high body count, has kids or having been in a previous marriage, and wants to be strong independent... why the heck would anyone want to wife that up.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 08:52 PM
3

This is so true. Most people are a job loss away from their existing quality of life being erradicted entirely. But yet they go about their day to day seemingly oblivious to this.
/r/MensRights08/08/23 07:46 PM
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That's why single moms always try to make it known they are a single mom to get sympathy. Whether they are asking for a discount, looking for a job, or posting on the classifieds selling something. It's like a badge of honour for them, sort of like how a handicap tag lets you get the best parking spots.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 11:23 PM
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Traditionally, a man would have had no issues giving all he had for a loyal wife. Even his life. It was his duty. Key word: loyal wife. Nowadays they go through partners like shoes, and it's merely your turn to be with her. They demand a "generous" man, but from a risk mitigation standpoint it's not worth it for a guy to be treating the average modern women in a traditional fashion. You're expected to sacrifice all your hard work for someone who has countless suitors and you're merely wasting yo…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 11:11 PM
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This is so well put. It's so incredibly sad that society thinks it's funny making fun of short guys, nerds, and incels, yet inappropriate to shame an overweight woman.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 09:59 PM
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Sure if you cherry pick your examples. There's CEOs of all nationalities in F500 companies, but in general they are tall, male, and white. Even politicians, it's well known that being tall and male is the prevailing trait.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 09:57 PM
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As a guy, society basically judges you on what your current status and assets are. No one cares what struggles you had in the past or what you had to go through to get where you are. You are also judged on your looks as it will influence how you are treated. A pretty woman basically plays life on easy mode. However, and ugly or overweight woman will have a much harder time than a similar man IMO.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 07:47 PM
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The struggles of asian men are unique and I don't see any of the problems being resolved anytime soon. In the dating world, it's very well known that asian men are considered the least attractive to women. It's not only visual appearances, but personality wise asian culture tends to create the stereotype of asian men being quiet, reserved, and introverted which doesn't lend itself well to attraction. I'm not a fan of BLM or even Asian Lives Matter as IMO these groups tend to play into the victim…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 06:05 PM
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We have a core instinct which has been developed through evolution through countless generations. Challenging that instinct by not playing because the game is rigged is a very tough realization. It applies not only to dating, but alot of societal expectations. Eg. Working and slaving away for a company to chase material things.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 04:37 PM
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That's just your thinking. I would argue that deep inside most men do want a purpose and a sense of duty. Duty for your country, and blind patriotism is stupid IMO (eg. going to war and being willing to die for your country) . But for your immediate family it's a great thing. I would personally have no issues supporting a woman and taking on the responsibility of a family IF she was a virgin and we started building a life together at a young age, to the point where we've spent enough time togeth…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 04:30 PM
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It takes two to tango. Single moms will always take on a victim mentality to gain sympathy. The dad will be labelled as a narcissist and abusive, but what does that even mean? There are some truly deadbeat men out there, but IMO any guy that's paying child support or makes an effort to try to be in the child's life... likely isn't as bad as she makes him out to be.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:56 PM
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I don't know about that. Traditionally, a man had a duty to his family which is the way it should be. But in that duty, there is also the expectation that the wife would support him no matter what and stick by his and the family's side through any hardship. Now it's all twisted. How can you expect a wife to be loving and loyal when by the time you get married she's already likely gone through multiple partners and only suddenly wanting to settle down because time is running out? Or the amount of…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:51 PM
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Filipinos are absolutely one of the worst when it comes to that. They are also seemingly VERY friendly and welcoming so you get an incredible amount of guilt and social pressure for not being generous. Next thing you know, you're building a house for them back in their village if not importing multiple families over to come live with you. Koreans tend to treat having a tall white man as a fashion accessory like a handbag. Chinese are very well educated and know that most of those white men are l…
/r/MensRights31/07/23 03:52 PM
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Most females are bad with money and don't think long term. It's unfortunate that social media has brainwashed the minds of young females who insist they must somehow travel to 30 countries by 30 despite working a low level job. If they are attractive enough there will ALWAYS be a guy willing to finance that.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 01:25 PM
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Those mental health conditions also get worse with time.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 01:11 PM
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Many of those men tend to have been less successful in their home countries and even considered as losers. I'm curious as to what careers they may have. Some remote workers with freedom, or others being corporate staff. I'm suspecting that alot of these guys also never had any real profession to start with hence they don't have much to lose by picking up and trying to start over in another country. Eg. Teaching English. The danger with marrying someone from a significantly lower social standing …
/r/MensRights31/07/23 01:02 PM
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There is always a simp willing to do so. In her earlier party years she would've found this untapped resource invisible, but as she gets more experience and realize life is expensive + working sucks... these simps start to look more desireable. Women have always typically been bad at money and at saving/investing the traditional way. It's a far higher ROI by letting a simp do the work.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 10:23 AM
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That applies to traditional asian culture in general, but since the dating market is even more stacked against men... it leads to high levels of simping. Rich high value men will beg and simp in spoiling their partners as there is a certain entitled expectation. Mothers and fathers will warn their sons against single moms as it is a huge taboo dragging that baggage into the family. But the son won't listen because he's too sucked in and insists she's not like the others. It's the source of many …
/r/MensRights31/07/23 10:11 AM
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IMO the laws will never change. Society needs sheep to follow the narrative. Which means children being born, working to provide value for the elites, pay taxes, and being indebted enough to keep working. Not enough men are waking up as the number of simps far outweigh the woke. Even as a man gets destroyed by a woman, there will always be another simp willing to step in. I'm never surprised at how low a man is willing to drop their standards for a woman.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 02:49 PM
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Most cultures since the beginning of time have shamed single mothers to discourage the act of bringing up a child without a coherent family structure. As is should be, because it REALLY messes up a kid and burdens society later when that kid ends up being a deadbest criminal. But now the strong independent woman syndrome is taking over, and it's even more prominent in China as the economy gets worse and mens are becoming less economically viable. A decling birthrate is a huge problem for China a…
/r/MensRights30/07/23 01:49 PM
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In a perfect world the money would go to the kid. In reality she's going to be travelling, partying, and hooking up with other dudes on your dime. How else do you think these single moms working a customer service job is able to post on their Instagram on all their travels and food experiences.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 01:40 PM
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A really important thing to keep in mind for these abuse claims is... women who make these claims generally DO truly feel they are being abused. They are emotional, not logical thinkers. If you yelled at her, if she's not getting what she wants, you asking her to cook, etc..could all be considered abuse. There's no good definition on what is and isn't abuse. I recently read a book "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck" and what still stuck to me was this example of a prominant feminist who studie…
/r/MensRights30/07/23 01:22 PM
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Not only do you lose your shit and have to pay alimony, but she's likely going to use that money to travel and have fun with other guys. On your dime.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 01:05 PM
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Except she can and will emotionally manipulate a guy. She WILL take cooking classes, clean, and use a sweet feminine tone of voice leading up to the marriage. This is an extremely effective strategy and WILL get most men hooked. But once it's locked in and even leading up to the marriage... it's all about me me me.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 12:55 PM
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Wow I never thought of it that way. Women have always been more emotional than logical, so they want those things moreso for social validation. Accountability have never been a priority.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 12:52 PM
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I have a decent job that I enjoy. I would be ok with supporting someone if they looked after the house, was feminine, enoyable to be with, and more importantly loyal + supporting of me. Basically a nice household I could look forward to going home to. But no, they are almost always entitled boss babes that can barely cook/clean and argumentative.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 05:07 PM
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This is why I have a burner account.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 05:02 PM
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Yup, 100K hardly is an achievement anymore. All that it means is you're not a complete loser. $250k and above...ok maybe you're a bit above the rest but you're still likely a wage slave and nowhere close to providing a lavish lifestyle.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 03:27 PM
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Thanks for your kind feedback. Admittedly, it is nice knowing I can tell my boss to fuck off if it ever gets to that, but at the same time... the money just feels like a number in the computer. I'm not living a significantly more lavish or happier life then when I was a student. I'd love nothing more than to meet the right person and share my life with her. Even if she had 0 net worth, as long as I had a partner to run the race with. But in reality at 30+ the women come with trauma, high expecta…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 03:59 PM
1

Grass is always greener. Would a guy really be happy dying rich and alone? I hit $1MM at 30 by doing precisely that...ignoring societal pressures. But the downside is you become a bit of an outcast. People will look down in you for having a crappy car, being cheap, not wanting to party, etc.. . Then when you have $$, they also resent you for reminding them about what they don't have and think you "just got lucky". I've also been chewed out when I suggested I'd always want a prenup. Apparently it…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 03:19 PM
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Being able to stay at home to take care of a family is a way better life than having to go to work. The vast majority of jobs suck, even the high paying ones. But oh no it's too degrading cooking and cleaning for a husband. Are you really strong and independent being a wage cuck for a nameless corporation?
/r/MensRights20/07/23 03:05 PM
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Usually female narcissists integrate well into social circles and will surrround herself with supporters because they live off affirmation. Could be other females, or any simp willing to listen. They create a reality field around themselves where they truly believe they are the victim and any problem that occurs is always someone else's wrongdoing. These are the folks that accuse their exes of being abusive and will never admit fault. Absolutely no accountability for the fact they allowed an abu…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 03:08 AM
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To be fair, I'm not of the belief that any of these hardships are unique to modern times. IMO, social media and then internet have made us more aware than in the past, and amplifying the problems that have always existed with human nature and society. It's true that the modern job market and corporate culture are a toxic cesspool, but things were truly even worse the further back in time you go. History has always been written by the victor and the sucessful. For every man who raises a proper fa…
/r/MensRights20/07/23 03:03 AM
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It'll probably keep getting worse, especially as social media and feminism are corrupting young people. Women won't admit feminism is harmful until the very end when they are old, alone, and undesireable. Asian countries provide a foreshawdowing of things to come. Hyper competitiveness causing many to be left behind to the point where they are giving up and laying flat. They are on their phones all day as a distraction from reality, consuming mindless content. Go walk around in asia... everyone …
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:36 PM
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They'll ruthlessly understand and exploit the law in whatever way that will benefit them. And they'll pull the victim mentality while doing it. This is why you never date or take seriously divorcees and single moms. They've been through the process and will out manoeuver you if it comes down to it.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:25 PM
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The lucky ones are those who met in college, stuck together and married by 30. This is getting to be a fairly rare occurrance. The average guy in his 30's is left with two options: 1. Give up entirely 2. Keep playing the rigged game, eventually simp and accept damaged goods. Eg. High body count, single moms, weird trauma issues, etc.. We are wired to seek companionship so men will generally keep trying and simp until the end.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 12:59 PM
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100%. That's just a MTGOW lie from guys trying to make themselves feel better. Even a 35+ year old single mom will have no shortage of simps willing to go for her. Never underestimate how low a simp is willing to go.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 10:41 AM
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They would also rather share a top 5% guy in the hopes of trying to lock him down, than to go for the average guy. However, if she's not the boss babe type, average, and getting older... she slowly realizes how tough working is (most women are bad with money) and may eventually give in to a simp. She will resent him and the only thing keeping her from leaving are her declining desireability from age.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 10:34 AM
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Working remote was the best thing that happened to me. When I was a young professional, dealing with BS office politics and corporate culture driven by HR gave me anxiety. I work towards being known as a performer not only within the company but with clients as a diversification mechanism. Let people compete for you, not the other way around. More importantly having the financial means to say fuck off is best way to be able to set your boundaries against this nonsense.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 10:21 AM
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Unless you are atleast a 8/10 and 6 ft, it's pretty much a waste of time using online dating at 18. All you can do is work on yourself and suck it up. IMO, it's almost pointless going on online dating as a guy until atleast 27+. Unless you're a top 10% male, dating in your 20's will generally suck and be a waste of time. It gets slightly better in your 30's but not that much. People talk about the "wall" all the time, but I'm not entirely convinced it exists. Even a 35+ single mom will have no s…
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:50 AM
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Simps often are so desperate that they get a crappy deal but think they won the lottery. That single mom who partied away her 20's but now wants to settle down with a real man? Better wife that up right away!
/r/MensRights16/07/23 04:00 PM
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Government's priority is to maintain social stability not to enforce any moral or ethical guises. Go to work, pay your taxes, buy shit, and don't ask too many questions. Can you imagine the sort of social instability that would arise when a portion of the population realizes they aren't the real fathers?
/r/MensRights16/07/23 03:53 PM
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I think for me it's the struggles in the dating world. And since females liked to talk about dating more often, I used to mostly get feedback and advice from them. I used to be naive in following the standard societal narrative in terms of what was sold to us on the media and by corporations on what success is. But over time you start noticing something doesn't seem right, whether it's the various dellusions or double standards in place. Societal values seems to be declining in general for both …
/r/MensRights15/07/23 03:11 PM
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Large corporations are still relatively conservative, despite what their HR and marketing teams project on the outside. Most hiring managers for their team aren't discriminatory at all, they just want someone who is competant, can do the job reliably, be low drama with regards to getting along with everybody, and minimize risk. The problem with these pronouns and the increasing woke idealogy is that these people tend to be more demanding and outspoken. Eg. Blue haired loud feminist stereotype. S…
/r/MensRights15/07/23 02:59 PM
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Ehh even if they are an overweight 40's single mom with multiple daddies there will always be someone willing to simp for her. Whether she will respect him is a different story.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 06:42 PM
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Atleast with height they are direct about that. They know that asking a guy about their income is like asking a girl about her weight. And if you disagree you're a misogynist.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 06:34 PM
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They get offended when being called a gold digger, they just want a man who is ambitious and generous.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 02:53 PM
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There's no shortage of simps willing to step and give validation though. In our group, the females were angrily criticizing Andrew Tate. One guy proudly proclaimed that he's got no problems simping for his single mom GF and how disgusted he was of that red pill stuff.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 02:49 PM
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Idiocracy the movie comedy described this perfectly. Anyone who is intelligent starts to see how messed up the world is and stops having kids. However, the uneducated continues to pump them out. So now the next generation is being raised in low income, single parent households increasing the burden on social systems which is subsidized by everyone else.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 02:44 PM
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If a guy were to be under such unfair alimony terms, what's stopping them from just incorporating, keep as much $$ within the corporation as possible, invest it within the corporation, then whenever you're ready to cash out just buy a bunch of crypto via the company and "lose" it.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 04:11 AM
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I know nothing about this so excuse the ignorance. If you get 50-50 custody, why is child support still being paid? Is it because you have a higher income? How is income/net worth before getting married factored into this? Lastly, if you know what you know now, how would you have structured your pre-nup before getting married?
/r/MensRights11/07/23 05:26 PM
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If a woman enters the workforce and now makes $80k/year, she is now unable to respect any male equivalent or below. If she gets a university degree and gets an office job as marketing manager for $60k/year, she is unable to respect the $120k/year plumber. This all contributes to reducing her pool of suitors. Then ontop of that, they don't realize how screwed they are financially in the long term for retirement. Social media is constantly bombarding them with materialistic and travel desires, so …
/r/MensRights09/07/23 02:10 PM
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There are so many stories like this which are swept under the rug. I bet the story you'll hear is likely that his ex accused him of being a narcissist and abusive.
/r/MensRights09/07/23 01:40 PM
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Unfortunately we kind of did this to ourselves. There's always going to be a simp willing to accept lower standards because the feeling of desperation is real. We've all felt it, and IMO, we all start off as simps until learning the truth after having been screwed over enough times. Only when men step up and be the ones setting the standard (eg. only agreeing to marriage and kids when conditions are met) to shift the supply-demand dynamics would things improve. But let's be real, that will never…
/r/MensRights09/07/23 01:37 PM
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They are worth marrying if you so happen to catch them in their early 20's and haven't been corrupted yet. But as soon as they get more exposed to the world, the temptation is there. It's very rare, but those ideal relationships do still exist. A big component to this is also having been raised in a good, normal family environment with values. Also becoming rare due to the rise in single family households. Even when there are two parents, both are likely too busy working full time so the kids ar…
/r/MensRights08/07/23 07:04 PM
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I think what sets apart these cultures is they promote the importance of family. Anything that breaks that is shamed. Divorce, infidelity, being a single parent... are shameful things that could make you a social outcast. Western culture promotes individuality and selfishness over community.
/r/MensRights08/07/23 01:17 PM
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Most women are terrible with money. The less succesful ones slowly realize how much it sucks to work for a living. If the simp has money, she will give him a chance and might even convince herself that he's a great guy. Atleast until she's done tapping into that resource, gets bored, and gets the tingles for chad again.
/r/MensRights08/07/23 01:12 PM
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Not true, as long as they are moderately attractive, there will always be some simp willing to take her in. She could be a 40 yr old single mom with debt, but if she's above a 5 there WILL be a desperate white knight willing to accept her.
/r/MensRights08/07/23 05:51 AM
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My first ever real engineering job I got fired after a year. It was due to an older woman who got offended that a young kid (me) knew more about a technical topic (lead acid batteries) than her. I wasn't trying to be confrontational, I merely pointed out her design wouldn't have worked. I got called into the HR office to be put on a performance improvement plan. HR was a lady of course, but I was a simp and opened up to her, half sobbing like a naive moron and trusting her. I was absolutely deva…
/r/MensRights08/07/23 05:39 AM
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I'm so glad I'm an engineer and work in a male dominated industry. It's generally low drama, and any disagreements are on technical matters of which there's usually a clear right or wrong way to do things... then we move forward. I've worked in teams with more females, or even in an office nearby females and the amount of drama increases significantly to the point where I feel I have to be super careful in everything. Use the wrong tone of voice, body language, or etc.. and it can get awkward re…
/r/MensRights07/07/23 07:56 PM
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I'm ignorant to divorce laws, but I do believe in alimony when a child is involved. But when a couple separates and there's no kids....why should there be an automatic split in assets? Also, I've seen so many times where the wife is receiving child support but she's using that money to party, travel, and have fun. If you were the father, how would you feel knowing the money isn't going to your kid, but rather so your ex can be with other dudes?
/r/MensRights07/07/23 07:48 PM
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The simps are worse for men as a whole than the feminists. Women are inherently driven by emotion and other such factors, but what really reinforces their dellusions and gives them power are the simps that give them positive reinforcement. We would all be better off if guys would just have some self respect and basic decency/values to say no.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 06:59 PM
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I basically use this as my burner account now. I mostly go on Reddit for news/educational/investing/finance type topics. But I was once posting on a finance subreddit discussing rental properties (completely unrelated topic) and a guy disagreed enough with my statement to dig through my post history and referenced the ONE TIME I went on a dating subreddit where I said I preferred someone that didn't have too many partners. And WOW what a reaction. Everyone jumping out of the woodworks to call me…
/r/MensRights07/07/23 04:24 PM
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Unfortunately this is not an unusual story at all. I bet when asked about her relationship with you, she'll describe you as the abusive and narcissistic one. No matter how psycho she is, as long as she's attractive there will always be some guy willing to take her in.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 04:08 PM
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This is unfortunately the hard truth. Unconditional love does not exist. Many times marriages fail because the guy starts to let himself go after tying the knot since he thinks it's a done deal. But that is not the case at all, he needs to constantly be providing and keeping the relationship exciting. As long as she has options, her mind will be wandering. The guy always needs to be proving that he's the best option. The risk is only reduced after her looks fade, gains weight, and gets older.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 03:56 PM
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This is sad to hear, but is the reality of the situation. Many young boys/men don't want to fight on either side, and would probably rather be at home living a normal life. The notion of "duty" and what counts as "cowardice" is such brainwashing BS IMO. If OP were to post such videos or even describe his day to day that goes against the narrative, he'd be quickly shut down. There's thousands of stories like the OP's which are forgotten with time. Western media and Reddit have their own propagand…
/r/MensRights20/06/23 01:22 PM
1

Alot of times they play the victim card. I've noticed with many girls, they will almost never admit fault in their previous relationships. I'm pretty open when people ask me about my previous relationships who left who. Sometimes I got dumped, sometimes I did the leaving. In the times I did the leaving, I've been surprised to find out through friends that they claimed they were the ones that dumped me. So even small actions like that show that ego kicks in.
/r/MensRights01/06/23 03:19 PM
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To be fair, it's hard for BOTH below average looking men and women. I would argue that an unattractive woman has an even harder time than a similar man because atleast the guy can somewhat increase his chances through personality or wealth. If a woman is unattractive, especially past a certain age... it's game over. For an average looking man vs woman, it's definitely 10x harder for the man in this day and age. And yes it is definitely WAY harder as an asian man.
/r/MensRights30/05/23 09:55 PM
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Thanks for sharing your story. If after a divorce, you're still making child support payments and still actively trying to be a part of/bettering your child's life...then you're not a bad person, period. But to their friends and even to the child, they'll always play the victim and demonize you. The word "abusive" should be reserved for the absolute worst of people, IMO. Just because you got your feelings hurt from someone who yelled at you...does not count as abusive. Also, if you're getting ye…
/r/MensRights28/05/23 08:15 PM
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It's a red flag in general in dating when a person always talks bad about their exes that makes it seem like it was always the other person's fault. It shows a lack of accountability.
/r/MensRights27/05/23 02:42 PM
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Ask them what exactly did they do that they are considering abusive and narcissistic. I really would like to know. Those are the two most common terms single mothers describe their exes. The term is so overused now to be point that you have of have to be skeptical when they say it. I have no doubt that there are some truly terrible fathers who abandon their kids, are physically abusive, and are deadbeats. But IMO, the vast majority of guys do somewhat attempt to step up to the plate when a child…
/r/MensRights27/05/23 02:39 PM
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No politician would be able to push for this because they'd quickly be called out for being a misogynist and their careers ruined. Not only would the feminists devour such a politician, but so would her army of white knights. There's no way of winning except to not play.
/r/MensRights26/05/23 01:50 AM
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Yup, have seen this first hand. A single mom friend who has 50/50 custody of the son, yet the courts still orders the dad to pay out 30% of his income in child support. She works an almost minimum wage job, yet somehow can afford to go partying or go on several vacations every year (usually with some new dude she's met). Scheduled around the weeks that she does not have the son of course, so it's not like she's taking him. How would you feel knowing your money is not going to the child, but rath…
/r/MensRights26/05/23 01:41 AM
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I belive most people, including women, are inherently good. The problem is we have a social structure that supports women even when they are doing shitty things which does not support accountability. Not only that, but if they are moderately attractive then they're used to being surrounded by compliments and support their entire lives. They can do no wrong, and if something bad happens it's always someone else's fault. If a guy was raised under those conditions, he'd be just as much of an arse. …
/r/MensRights24/05/23 05:45 PM
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I was recently talking to a 29 yr old friend who has no shortage of suitors and she is going through the process of freezing her eggs because no one meets the laundry list of requirements. Eg. Tall, rich, good looking. She has set a timeline of wanting to settle down at 32 on the dot, but she wants to spend the next year travelling and yolo'ing first. I wonder how that's going to turn out. She's quite literally the opposite of housewife material but I could see a simp agreeing to the ultimatum i…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 05:37 PM
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For me, I've noticed that the feminist narrative has creeped into most of my social groups in the real world to the point where I don't feel I can bring up my struggles without being cancelled out and called a misogynist. Hence why I am here online seeing what random strangers have to say. A large portion of my female friends will even proclaim proudly they are feminists and cutting them out of my life would also mean abandoning my social circles because the men will support them. It's getting s…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 05:25 PM
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Really? Sure. Maybe blank out the user. This is a burner account because you can't say anything remotely critical on most subs witnout someone crawling through your history and calling you a misogynist.
/r/MensRights23/05/23 09:19 AM
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That's terrifying. If there was a kid, then I understand that resources should be allocated for their best interest. If two couples were to decide on not having a kid, it doesn't seem like there's really any benefit to getting married.
/r/MensRights23/05/23 03:45 AM
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Not necessarily. Good genes might keep them to 35 tops, but after that it really becomes apparent if they haven't been maintaining good habits. eg. working out, eating well, etc..
/r/MensRights23/05/23 01:34 AM
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There is a very small subset of men that are truly deadbeats. Most guys, even if it was an accident, typically have some bit of accountability. For the guys that are true deadbeats, you can tell from a mile away...so there's got to be some sort of accountability for women allowing those sort of guys in their lives in the first place.
/r/MensRights23/05/23 01:30 AM
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When a female lives for herself, that's called empowerment. When a guy does it, he's a misogynist.
/r/MensRights23/05/23 01:24 AM
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Canadian here, but I was having a discussion here with a friend who claimed that even a prenup is not bulletproof? Would like to understand how exactly that is?
/r/MensRights23/05/23 01:19 AM
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There's always going to be a simp that will white knight for a woman who is moderately good looking, regardless of her age or how many kids. Single moms are a red flag on its own but guys never learn until it's too late. Even if you absolutely insisted on being with a single mom, I can't think of ANY reason how it would be beneficial to marry her. It seems like you'd be agreeing to take on a crap ton of liability/risk with no benefit. You atleast dodged a bullet, even if it was a painful experie…
/r/MensRights23/05/23 01:08 AM
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I'm 34 and I've been using travel mode on my apps as I plan on working out of a larger metropolitan city soon. Although I set my filters from age 23 to 35, the vast majority of my matches seem to be in the 32-35 range and all of them want kids. When we start talking, within only a couple of chats I already feel like I'm being interviewed and they make it clear that they are looking to settle down within 1-2 years. It's kind of terrifying, because from a male perspective it doesn't work that way.…
/r/MensRights22/05/23 06:44 PM
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The reality is if a woman is decent enough looking, there is always a simp out there would be more than happy to take her in regardless of her past. The wall only applies to average looking women IMO. It's moreso if she is willing to settle for the simp.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 04:31 PM
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Not sure about that, I'm finding in my social circles even in the 35 range the strong independent vibe is just getting stronger. I even have one 30yr old friend who is reasoning through that she wants to continue her party/travel the world phase, but wants to settle at 32 with a rich man. Like you can simply flip a switch one day and get a man (who is rich) to settle with who is also willing to have kids after dating <1 year.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 04:27 PM
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I agree with this. Women are wired to seek affirmation and attention from males. A big reason why feminism in its current form exists are all the "nice guys" that continue to support this behavior. Guys only need to stop giving them attention. No amount of arguing with logic will EVER work in these circumstances, and if anything, will usually be to your detriment.
/r/MensRights18/05/23 03:22 AM
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Oh boy, this is so true. All those tips seem to be written by women with extensive dating experience (aka. not wife material). I don't think they've ever bothered to ask an actual man what they want, because the answer would be "misogynistic." Men truly are simple creatures... all you have to do is respect them, be faithful, and keep things comfortable/peaceful.
/r/MensRights16/05/23 12:36 AM
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It's absolutely disgusting how we've normalized that sort of name calling as ok. It's no different than making fun of someone overweight, short, or mentally challenged. The typical "incel" got there because they lack looks, the social skill, or finances to be successful in the modern world. I would argue that many of those points are not actually their fault.
/r/MensRights13/05/23 02:47 PM
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Men tend to be rational and women are emotional, which affects savings habits. Everyone seems to be focused on the average woman making more than men, but the real metric to look for is the savings rate. Of which generally, men tend to be better at.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:06 PM
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IMO, all people men and women inherently start off as good people, seeking peace and love. But society exposes them to propaganda like consumerism, feminism, and other extremist ideologies or temptations which slowly corrupts.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 11:32 PM
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Weddings were once pure and had purpose, now it's just a money grab with marketing propaganda being injected into women's minds at a young age on what they "deserve." The whole industrial complex behind weddings is all so incredibly wasteful. eg. Having that stupid expectation that men should spend xx% of his salary on a useless rock. Or worse yet, brides spending crazy $$ on a custom fit one time use dress AND expecting their close bridesmaids to do the same.
/r/MensRights23/04/23 11:26 PM
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It's pretty much futile trying to tackle a feminist with supporters as a lone wolf. You'll end up carrying the title of being a misogynist, which will hurt you more (even if what you are saying is very moderate). Once they are set in their ways, they are driven by emotion and no amount of logic or evidence will win any argument against them.
/r/MensRights22/04/23 03:23 AM
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I thought you were going to say a misogynist.
/r/MensRights20/04/23 09:03 PM
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IMO the only moderate chance of the relationship being sucessful long term is if the woman lusts for, or is attracted to the guy first. Problem is, most men aren't going to fall into that top 5% category. So what usually happens is a guy puts in enormous effort to chase after a girl, beating out the endless other suitors of which any moderately attractive woman will have. She gives it a chance and eventually tolerates the guys enough that she settles for him. But in a sea of options and being bo…
/r/MensRights19/04/23 03:10 PM
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I've kind of noticed this to. You can teach a simp, and they will truly believe and understand you. But as soon as a woman even glances in their way they are willing to drop everything and risk it for her. It's an incredibly hard urge to resist.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 03:02 PM
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That will never happen, women will always have an endless supply of matches. Because there will always be someone desperate enough to be simping. I once made a fake Facebook profile as a moderately atractive women (I needed this account to scope out a business) and WOW you would not believe the amount of desperate men that would give comments and simp. Most of these guys looked like they were down on their luck, low income, "unsuccessful" types. When you're attractive it's seriously like playing…
/r/MensRights19/04/23 02:59 PM
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Not even dating forums, but I was posting on a finance subreddit talking about a controversial (but not dating related) topic and someone disagreed with my point enough that they combed through my history and found the ONE time I posted on a dating subreddit to accuse me of being a misogynist (it was about not wanting someone with a high body count) and therefore my unrelated point on finance was invalid. Therefore now I have a burner account for controversial stuff.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 06:25 PM
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This is very true. It's easy to speak out against feminism in an anonymous manner on the internet, but the reality is that if you're even remotely critical about this stuff (and not even in any extremists manner), you will quickly be called out for being a misogynist of which there are real consequences socially. It's like saying something opening racist in public....you face the exact same backlash.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 06:49 PM
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Women seek validation, from both women and men. IMO the only reason feminism still stands ground are all the white knights that support the movement. If men simply stopped caring and giving any attention to the movement it would drive them crazy and die off.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 06:45 PM
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My experience exactly. You almost have to gauge a social situation first to see where everyone stands and tip toe lightly. You cannot criticize any point of view without concern of accidentally offending someone. I made the mistake of accidentally brushing off having a prenup as no big deal in a wedding discussion and WOW the feminists in the group really came out blazing. "You're a misogynist, you know in this day and age you can't assume a man out earns the woman, blah blah"
/r/MensRights23/03/23 01:31 AM
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Dates have also felt like an interrogation to me. Went out with a girl who we clicked with great on the first date, but on the 2nd date she was tired due to work and afterwards said she didn't "feel the connection." These things take time...but it's almost as if they expect the bond to happen right away.
/r/MensRights23/03/23 01:26 AM
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If you are tall, decent looking, and with a good job you'd likely be ok. I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but I definitely feel a weight on my shoulders from the various pressures of society. I know there's nothing I can do about it except power through.
/r/MensRights20/03/23 11:14 PM
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Females and males have different criteria. Females view a man who is a virgin as being unexperienced and undesirable. "What's wrong with him, why doesn't any woman want him?". Inexperience and lack of having been in a long term relationship is seen as a turnoff because that means the man doesn't know how to take care of a woman or lacks commitment. However, that same criteria doesn't apply to how men look at females. The unfortunate reality is that in this day and age, anyone remotely attractive…
/r/MensRights18/03/23 03:33 PM
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It's purely about getting the most user engagement, like any other social media platform. Most men related subs eventually get shut down once they get too extreme like the red pill stuff. But there's a double standard because the various feminist subs or incel tears making fun of incels is seen as acceptable.
/r/MensRights16/03/23 02:09 PM
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You cant really argue on the basis of logic with some people when they pull the "misogynist" card. It's an all encompassing definition to cover anything they don't like to hide behind accountability. Also I think what further makes it worse are the white knight guys that willingly buy into the same ideas.
/r/MensRights16/03/23 12:01 PM
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You can't be even remotely critical of any woman's behavior on those subreddits without being called a misogynist. If men express problems, it is often suggested you need to work on yourself and get therapy.
/r/MensRights16/03/23 02:51 AM
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I'm not even talking about super traditional stuff. Say something moderately reasonable like "oh I don't want a woman that has a high body count" or "yea I'd prefer if she wasn't out clubbing every weekend" on a dating subreddit and you'll get called a misogynist.
/r/MensRights16/03/23 02:46 AM
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Most of Reddit's demographics and mods are leftist SJW woke types. I personally dislike the far left AND right, but I feel like you can't say anything remotely traditional without being called a boomer conservative.
/r/MensRights15/03/23 09:40 PM
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These groups wouldnt be so bad if it equally allowed men and women to post. There's also The Dirty which is a popular one. IMO, usually a person has to have done something quite shitty to make it up on these sort of sites. I've seen some people I know IRL on there and the comments were generally true.
/r/MensRights15/03/23 08:34 PM
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This was very well explained! He's absolutely right in that the first knee jerk reaction people have is to cry misogyny.
/r/MensRights13/03/23 05:54 PM
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The worst thing is that there's so many simps that support the feminist narrative. You literally can't go anywhere on Reddit, say anything remotely critical of female behavior, without being called a misogynist. I've literally had to make a fake disposable account just to participate in this and dating related sub-reddits where I can be more true to my real thoughts.
/r/MensRights13/03/23 03:22 AM
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This stupid word is starting to become more and more used, both online and in real life. It's super annoying. Literally anything they don't like..."misogynist."
/r/MensRights13/03/23 03:19 AM
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Reddit is becoming more woke and left leaning. I dislike the far right, but some of the crap coming from the left is absolutely absurd sometimes. As more right leaning stuff gets censored, the left prevails and that's the sort of ideology that's trickling into the minds of youngers folks who are increasingly more reliant on Reddit for information.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 03:59 AM
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Pretty much every corporation is hopping onto the woke train. Marketing and HR departments are increasingly led by women which is why these narratives get slipped in there. Not only that, but the males that work in these departments tend to be the types (poly sci/marketing majors) that encourage this kind of thing. You'll never see the guys who actually build the product (assembly line workers or engineers) go to diversity and inclusion training willingly.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 12:51 AM
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Yea even in social situations, the feminist agenda has started to influence some of my female friends greatly to the point where I can't even say stuff like "yea I prefer dating younger" without being labelled a raging misogynist and being cancelled out of my social groups. Sometimes you just have to keep your mouth shut because the backlash is not worth it.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 09:03 PM
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If you are critical of a woman's body in any way you're a raging misogynist. But laughing at socially awkward, short, bald, ugly guys? That's okay!
/r/MensRights08/03/23 07:18 PM
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This stuff is spreading pretty badly even on more mainstream Reddit subs like Bestof, Unpopularopinion, AITA, various dating subs, etc... I've even noticed this mentality occuring in real life to point where you have to be super careful in what/how you say. Basically you cant say anything remotely critical of women behavior or feminism without being called a raging misogyny or an incel. Worst yet, many males are seeminly supporting this behavior without seeing the obvious double standard. It's g…
/r/MensRights08/03/23 06:28 PM
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I actually think some women are drawn to drama. They rant about misogyny and abusive exes yet they somehow keep attracting and going for those sort of guys, or stirring the pot by bringing up various societal issues online.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 04:43 PM
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You can't really talk about men's issues on most sub Reddits because everywhere is starting to be increasingly left leaning and "woke". Incels are made fun of, despite that being hugely offensive no different than making fun of fat, short, or disabled people. That word in general is seen as an insult but sadly, most of those people don't have much control over their situation due to things like looks, economics, anxiety, etc...
/r/MensRights06/03/23 05:02 AM
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Women have always been the motivators and supporters of men to do better and climb the workforce. If you think about it, it could be said that women ARE the sole motivators for men wanting to better themselves. Those labor jobs might suck and have long hours, but a man will gratefully do it if it means supporting his loving family. But when you take that last part out, then a guy has nothing to live for and I can see why they would want to check out. Low level office jobs aren't really that much…
/r/MensRights05/03/23 05:00 PM
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100%. I can't remember the last time I've ever encountered a situation or person where they hated women in the literal sense. Hatred towards other races, social classes, demographics? Yea absolutely that exists. But hatred to women in the most direct way? Doesn't happen except with the most extreme of nut jobs. Claiming "misogyny" and "abuse" is so overused now that I can't take those terms seriously anymore. Problem is, it's creeped it's way into being normalized in real life social situations …
/r/MensRights05/03/23 05:11 AM
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The feminists subs are exactly the same as MTGOW. Except that one is cherished as being strong and empowering while the other are for incel terrorists.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 08:45 PM
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I think discussing men's rights is equally as important as those of females. In none of these discussions do I see people saying women should be slaves or any of that extremist stuff. It's important that people be held accountable for their actions, regardless of male or female. The problem is that modern society/social media is causing people to behave poorly and have bad values.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 07:41 PM
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To expand on my observations, the guy is an asian male (30) living in a small town. So dating is WAY harder even if he is a doctor. He is also younger, fresh out of med school so likely hasn't had that much life experience towards these things except that he's probably happy that a woman finally is giving him attention. I've personally also spent time working in the middle of nowhere small town as an asian early in my career so I can sympathsize on the feeling of loneliness. She's not bad lookin…
/r/MensRights12/12/22 07:32 PM
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Hypocrisy by the media at its best. When the princess decides to stay fat and ugly as an ogre, it's called empowerment and strength. But when the bad guy gets laughed at for being short... it's funny.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 07:03 PM
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Unfortunately with how skewed the dating market is, there is always enough males willing to give in to this. I have a single mom friend who has been acting all-mighty recently because she scored a doctor who flies in every few weeks to see her and takes her out to fancy dinners/trips. I don't think in any of her relationships had she ever really chipped in for anything. It's just become an expectation. No way she can fund all these trips on her own and support a child on her $40k/year job.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 04:17 PM
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This exactly. The media has largely portrayed the incel as an extremist woman hater who is a borderline terrorist that should be shamed. While those people exist, that's also largely not the case. IMO most incels are just average men who would love to have a woman companion, but have been priced out of the modern dating market.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 05:13 AM
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Perfect way to put it. It's a risk assessment evaluation, and most guys are realistic with understanding where they stand. Eg. If you're not 6ft and traditionally handsome, you'd be called a creep. Movies for decades have set unrealistic expectations, now it's social media and online dating which has been giving any average woman a ton of attention. This has resulted in even average female's standards to be off the roof.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 01:34 PM
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Exact same thing happened to me. It was a completely unrelated topic, I was commenting on the realities of being a landlord and how it wasn't really worth the effort and had risk to it. That of course triggered woke SJW extreme left Reddit enough that some guy literally took the time to go through my comment history and called out the ONE time I went on a dating subreddit where I suggested that it was ok for a man to not want a woman that had too many partners. Then everyone else went aboard and…
/r/MensRights22/11/22 07:06 AM
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Great feedback. It is indeed a listening circle, such that the manner of the meetings is not for one man to give advice to another. A place where a guy can truly express his emotions and thoughts. I don't consider it "boring stuff" or of no value, just that perhaps at my current point in time I don't find it of being of value to me specifically. I am completely open to self discovery and trying to be more in tune with spiritual stuff. In general, I like to keep an open mind and I'm not trying to…
/r/MensRights20/11/22 07:15 PM
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I wonder if the Mankind Project differs between regions? I saw some MKP event on meetup and decided to attend a few to check it out. I was secretly hoping for it to be a sort of mentorship thing to learn from older wiser men. But TBH it's not really not, nor did it give off any extremist SJW, redpill, or feminist vibes. It was pretty moderte despite the people who attend may have different views. I thought it was cult-ish at first with Fight Club cues, but it wasn't really like that at all...you…
/r/MensRights19/11/22 03:21 PM
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The use of the word incel to insult a certain type of man is used just as often by males as it is females. If you are even remotely critical of a women's nature, you are equally likely to be scolded by another male than another female for being a raging misogynist. I think the prevalence of woke culture has contributed to this.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 11:23 AM
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No, the term incel now has quite literally being used to paint men as a sort of domestic terrorist. It's being misused entirely because the original meaning was "involuntary celibate", meaning a guy who had troubles finding a mate but entirely harmless to society. Now it's an insult term to throw at any guy speaking critically of female behavior, or talking about men's right. The troubling thing is that it's not only being used by females, but also other males in a derogatory manner.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 03:37 PM
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It's certainly more "involuntary" on the male side, but females can readily attract a male VERY easily if they wanted to. The word "incel" has almost gone beyond the original meaning of "involuntary celibate" to now be defined as a general insult term to paint the picture of a particular man who is a domestic terrorist. Criticize female behavior? Incel. Talk about men's rights? Incel. I don't necessarily agree that there is a 1:1 ratio of female incels if a male is an incel, if we are to use the…
/r/MensRights12/11/22 03:34 PM
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It almost seemed to co-incide with the rise in mass shootings which were always comitted by males with incel tendancies. So that term is now used in a shameful way to imply an extremist male terrorist. But the problem is this derogatory term is used not only by women, but also fellow males. Ironically a male extremist is exactly the same as a feminist, but society shames one and supports the other. If a man can't find a mate he is percieved to be an unattractive loser that lives in mom's basemen…
/r/MensRights12/11/22 11:37 AM
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There's nothing wrong with sticking up for men or women rights, but what's problematic is when the ideology trends toward hatred for men/women. And you got the last part opposite. Society celebrates women sticking up for their rights, but when men do it they are accused of being mysoginists/incels.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 02:34 PM
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There was another poster that brought up a very good point. Incel and feminism are actually the exact same thing. Except that one is celebrated and the other is seen an an embarrassing sub culture. They are both extremist ideologies in the exact same way.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 02:45 AM
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Not if he's good looking. For anyone below 7/10 for looks and under 6' then yea instant creeper.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 08:36 PM
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This is a great perspective. On both extremes we have radical feminism for women and radical red pill/incel culture for men. Both arise from systematic societal issues and are problematic in their own ways. However the problem is society and instituitions actively support feminism while shaming incels. They are the same thing!! I think that double standard is what's troubling. Females can actively promote feminism on their social media and even workplaces with active encouragement. Not only from…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 08:32 PM
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It's really horrible how they are treated and it's a societal problem. There was a sub where a dude posted about planning to shoot up a school (thankfully nothing happened) but the immediate comments were >80% of people calling him an incel, telling him to off himself, loser etc. I don't care if it was a joke or not, that was a pretty serious thing to post about and when you get society treating people this way, it makes them MORE likely to want to do something stupid.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 03:23 PM
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The problem is the general public discourse has been shifted to destroy even basic traditional ideologies that have always held true across many cultures and common sense. I made a comment in that sub on a completely unrelated matter (rental housing) and some guy literally dug through my comment history and slandered me as a character because I made one comment in a dating subreddit where I suggested that it's "reasonable for a man to not want an older woman because she's had too many partners" …
/r/MensRights21/10/22 03:14 PM
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I had to start distancing myself from a long time female friend because recently as we talked more about dating, the more she started revealing her true nature. All sort of narcissistic behavior starts to be revealed in how she takes on a victim mindset blaming previous partners and exhibits gold digging behavior. She's a single mom that used to go for the bad boy drug dealers, now wants a professional man like engineers and doctors. Which she has no problem in getting from the apps, but they ne…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 10:56 AM
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I think neither extremes are good. Politics aside, what's BS is the errosion of what's considered normal human decency and ethical social behavior. We absolutely should be discouraging both men and women from stupid behavior and people should be held accountable for their actions. But what I'm seeing is that women can do no wrong and men are the ones being held to unreasonable expectations and standards.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:13 PM
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On my normal account I said something on a dating subreddit that I wouldn't even consider that extreme. Something along the lines of "I think it's completely reasonable for a man to not want to be with a woman that is a single mom or has way too many partners because it shows poor decision making". And wow what a reaction. Being called a misogynist, boomer conservative for having traditional values (I'm early 30's), forever alone, etc... What a shitshow that society's values have become. It's ok…
/r/MensRights15/10/22 04:37 PM
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To be fair, society's values have been shifted encourage this sort of behavior. Reddit tends to be more left leaning, but if you even remotely bring up something critical of female behavior you'll get roasted to heck for being a misogynist even in subreddits that are non political and moderate.
/r/MensRights14/10/22 06:56 PM
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A lot of women also delude themselves when they get rejected. I witness it first hand with my female friends. They'll get dumped or ghosted, of which if it's a guy they care about they'll truly be hurt. But they'll jump right on the dating apps immediately as a coping mechanism and find another dude. Then they'll make up excuses about the previous guy usually something along the lines of him being abusive, lacking empathy, bad communicator, etc...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/22 07:37 PM
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If I had to guess, many relationship focused discussion boards are mostly women. Even in a fairly typical "dating advice" subreddit (I'm not allowed to link), a guy posted about dating in your 30's and that he didn't want women with baggage (eg. divorcees, single moms, and females that had too many previous partners). He was absolutely destroyed and shamed for having conventional desires, lacking empathy, and accused of being alone forever for having standards. An absolutely reasonable desire fo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/22 07:30 PM
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Sorry, removed. That was not my intent at all.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/22 08:59 PM
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Some poor guy posted on dating_advice about not wanting older women and he gets absolutely destroyed (likely that sub is mostly older women). However when a woman wants a tall dude, that's completely ok. https://www.reddit.com/r/dating\_advice/comments/x1h01m/am\_i\_27m\_soon\_going\_to\_be\_stuck\_with\_leftover/?sort=new
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/22 05:25 PM
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