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My parents had friends over all the time, maybe that's a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:29 PM
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That depends a lot on your age and the reason you never had a relationship, at 24 i wouldn't find it to be a big deal at all. If you're over 30 then it's weird unless it was on purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:16 PM
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Sure yeah, that would mathematically check out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:09 PM
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They don't know how averages work, even if women were all secretly sharing 20% of chads or whatever, the average amount of partners men and women have would be about the same
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:58 PM
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Well, then he should have said median. And sure, there is inequality between the amount of sex men have, but the same is true for women. People just have different lifestyles
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:12 PM
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Well, you were asking about MY experience, and that's what I answered with. I was never benefited by this pursuer/pursued dynamic. And I don't fucking know about your brother's life, how am I supposed to know if she was benefited by anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:11 PM
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Well, it could be both, being the first one to make a move while being respectful and being the first one to make a move while being a dick are both in the "pursuer" dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:08 PM
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23 is higher than average, for both men and women, so that's not a typical group. And yes on averages, some people have more and some have less, the same is true about women, most women I know have been with like 2 guys, but there's some that have been with dozens, women and men aren't that different on that aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:37 PM
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Well, "chad" would bring the average up for men, so the number would still be similar between genders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:29 PM
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I don't think you understand how a mathematical average works, men who fuck a bunch of women also count in the average. An average is when you add everything and divide by the number of men. So yeah your striper friend counts, so do all the women who are stripers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:28 PM
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That's mathematically impossible unless you consider that women are having WAY more gay sex than men. Which is probably false, gay men have more sex than gay women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:58 PM
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Well, my good experience with dating isn't a pursuer/pursued dynamic. We met in college, we were friends for a while and we were both liked each other after some time if being friends but we were both shy so we both kept making micro moves until it worked out. That happened when I was a freshman, I'm now a senior and were engaged. There were other guys that tried to hit on me, in a way that matches the pursuer/pursued dynamic much more, it made me uncomfortable and I had to ask a couple of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:55 PM
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Which men women message is literally in the study, women classified men lower but the messaging pattern for men and women was quite similar
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:29 PM
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Once again, you can and should be social, just nit with strangers in the middle of their errands, you can do it in many other ways. You're acting like because I said you probably shouldn't eat mc Donalds I'm saying you should starve. I met all my friends in settings that were specifically made to be social, I never went up to anyone on the streets to ask for their number
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:09 PM
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Each person's standars is their own business. Have them as high or as low as you want. Just don’t complain when nobody meets your high standards or when other people aren't willing to fuck anything like you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:07 PM
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There's sure some delusional women out there waiting for prince charming, but that's simply not how most people work. If you think all women are like that the problem is likely with you and not women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 08:05 PM
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People usually pair up with similars, yes there's a lot of women who are obese, but there's also a lot of men who are obese, so the value of non obese men also went up. That's just called the US having an obesity problem
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:59 PM
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If someone is socializing with the same people as you why would you ignore them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:26 PM
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It seems like you have reading issues because I very clearly said people can make friends without interrupting strangers on the street. It's called having a social life and it's really not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:25 PM
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Maybe look at the study
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:23 PM
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Matter, I'm not claiming that's bad or good, I don't care and I don't use the apps. All I'm saying is of course women are going to get more messages because there's more men, that has nothing to do with standars from men and women, it's simple supply and demand
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:19 AM
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Washing your hands is definitely higher on my and most women's I know priority list, the issue is you can't always know if they do it. I was just using it as an example for general higene.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:17 AM
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https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/juteau-marriage-rate-US-geographic-variation-2021-fp-22-25.html They have In a way that's pretty much correlated to women's financial freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:15 AM
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That's mostly an issue of dating apps being sausage parties and has nothing to do with who men and women like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:11 AM
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Some aspects of it are subjective, but some are shared by so many people they're basically objective, such as higene. And men (on average) are not doing that good on that one https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-handwashing/hands-down-men-worse-at-bathroom-hygiene-that-prevents-coronavirus-idUSKBN20S2N7
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:09 AM
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Only to an extent, and I think we've basically reached it already (for some people). If women don't need a husband to have a good life then they'll only date people they actually like, and for me and a lot of women I know that's already the case (not reallythe case for women in the middle east or that have extremely conservative parents). More social progression won't make me less likely to date since I'm already fully capable of living without a husband. So I agree to an extent
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:52 AM
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Well, there are unlikable men with partners, it's just that their partners are also unlikable or just being manipulated. So having a partner doesn't guarantee you're not an "undatable mess"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:39 AM
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It's not being dumb, many of them simply weren't capable of being in a financially comfortable situation without a man. And life choices are impacted by your surroundings, if none of the women you know have good jobs you won't believe you can get one
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:36 AM
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Have you ever looked around? most adult men are taken. And most of them are of average height and make an average amount of money, because you know, that's how averages work. My fiancé is shorter than average and makes 0 dollars a year (were both students but I have a part time and he doesn't) Yes you do need things that are out of your control to date specific women, people have types, and having the same values and interests is really important. But if you're a likable human in general there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:59 AM
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Technically able to and realistically capable to are very different things. In the 70s women literally made half as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:54 AM
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You seem to be citing a study you didn't read Men also find the majority of women average or above in terms of attractiveness. https://web.archive.org/web/20120723173702/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ Yes women did rate men lower on average than men rated women, but women messaged men in about the same rate as men message women. What matters isn't how high you were rated but weather the person is willing to get with you and women messaged men they consider bellow…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:44 AM
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And I didn't have to harass people on the streets to meet them, it's almost like you can easily make friends without approaching random people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:47 PM
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There's always someone who's friends with my friends but I don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:45 PM
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There's a big difference between meeting friends over dinner and being interrupted by strangers who happen to think im hot
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:44 PM
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People can sure have conversations, and sometimes you meet someone you know and catch up a bit. That's very different from approaching random strangers you find hot. And I never said being approached would ruin someone's day I jusy said they should have the right to not be approached by random strangers especially when they don't know which of those strangers are not going to take no for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:07 PM
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The biggest reason I don't want to talk to strangers is that I already have enough friends in person. And so does my fiancé who has social anxiety and won't ask for directions when he needs it. I'm a community leader for multiple clubs in college and I know people in all of the classes I'm taking, I don't need to talk to creepy men at the grocery store and I would like to buy my shit and leave without being interrupted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:03 PM
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Oh, yes because adjusted people talk to themselves in public
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:18 PM
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How "good" a guy is also doesn't mean you'll be happy with them your entire life, people need to consider BOTH attraction/their intuition AND their rational side that can look for red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:48 PM
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It's always ok to have unreasonable expectations as long as you don't complain other people don't meet them. If you prefer to be single than be with someone who isn't XYZ that's fine, be single, just don't say that people in general need to be more XYZ or that men/women nowadays are bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:44 PM
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If she doesn’t want to talk to you yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:33 PM
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It's working perfectly fine for me and my fiancé, going out today to meet friends over dinner actually
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:33 PM
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The "new" people also know people there, if I'm at a party and someone has a mutual friend with me we kind of can't avoid each other if we both want to talk to that friend
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:31 PM
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You ever heard of friends, it's an awesome way to be social, you can invite a bunch of them to your house
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:30 PM
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People don't go to the grocery store to socialize and they shouldn't be forced to. It's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:29 PM
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Parties where you just go to someone's house and eat food and talk about random shit and play board games, it's much easier to meet people when you can hear them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:27 PM
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You can just get new hobbies and activities. I met my fiancé playing board games, which is also a mostly masculine hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:25 PM
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I didn't say that they're better, that you should approach women, or make any claims about how success you're going to have. All im saying is some people don't want to be bothered on their daily errands and you should respect that. The reason is people at a party are expecting people to talk to them, they "consented" to having strangers trying to small talk them by being there. People in the grocery store didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:53 AM
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As the "chaperone" friend id always tell them if im going to the bathroom, and I don't know about you but I usually know multiple people in the party. And it's not about the amount of time, it's about the fact that in one of those situations you're "mentally prepared" to talk to people and in the other youre not. And the fact that talking to someone who was intrigued by a friend can be way easier than a stranger. My fiancé will gladly talk to friends of friends in a board game night but refuses …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:24 AM
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I never said it's impossible, all I'm saying is that a lot of people don't want to be bothered in a grocery store and you should respect them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:08 AM
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Not if you have people you already know in the party, no normal human goes to a party where they know nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:07 AM
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Just because you're in the same party doesn't mean you have to talk to them. And people in parties are there TO socialize they went there expecting to make conversation. In the grocery store you might just not want to have to talk to anyone at the moment. I have close friends and family with social anxiety or autism who dread the idea of someone talking to them if they're out on an errand
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:52 AM
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I personally don't like/go to "typical parties" I don't drink or enjoy music that's so loud that forces people to yell to communicate. And I can still meet people just fine. Not only that but I grew up with my parents bringing in people for house barbecues and meetings all the time, every so often I saw a new adult I've never seen before, a friend of a friend, a cousin of a cousin, someone from work, someone from church, someone who's a parent from a kid in the school...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:48 AM
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Meet trough friends/family, meet your coworkers, meet people you go to school with, meet people in common activities (volunteer work, cooking classes, card game tournament, neighborhood sports team, dog owners meetings...). And I know people of ALL ages that go to parties, a party doesn't have to mean drunk teenagers dancing to loud music, it could mean people in their 40s that each brought a dish and are having dinner together. My parents and grandparents go to parties. I know people over 60 wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:31 AM
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Not all guys take a no that easily, and I can't know which ones will. People are in a hurry sometimes and don't have the time to stop their errands to talk to you, some people have social anxiety or autism and don't want strangers talking to them at all. It's not hard to respect people's space
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:25 AM
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You can't know who minds and who doesn't, that's the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:03 AM
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I don't think anyone should be "approaching" strangers on the street, in places like a party, bar, or club then either direction works, but in the grocery store and the bank just leave people alone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:51 AM
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Yeah I've seen that video, that says nothing more than that lady being stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:22 PM
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Are you really taking shit from tik tok seriously? I've never heard any women or men be this ridiculous in real life and honestly I don't even know if that's someone's real standards or a troll since most of them seem like a parody
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:41 PM
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If you dont trust your wife she shouldn't be your wife. If my partner told me he was saving/investing money as a backup plan/retirement I would be completely fine with that, saving is a smart thing to do, but if he was hiding that from me I would definitely be upset. And being economically independent has nothing to do with trusting your partner or not nor does it require "secret savings" people just mean you should be employable so if you divorce/break up you can provide for yourself. And I pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:36 PM
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That's what being a normal person is, TPR is something different
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:59 PM
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I have answered, youre just mad it's not the answer you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:38 PM
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Who's they? And maybe "they" are going about it in a different way because they don't want casual relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:33 PM
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Well I don't know what you personally consider HVM but I obviously think my partner is awesome (though I'm obviously biased). He's really smart, has a good sense of humor, isn't afraid to show emotion or cry in front of me, doesn't hold conservative ideas of gender roles, has hobbies that he's passionate about, tries to be nice to everyone around him. And that's a matter of opinion but think he looks pretty good, the long and wavy hair helps. He's also currently getting a degree that has an aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:30 PM
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What I appreciate (or don't) in different men is different so I can't really talk in general terms, but when it comes to my partner I really appreciate: his sense of humor, how he's always trying to be nice to everyone around him, how smart he is, how much he cares about me, how fun he is to be around...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:23 PM
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Have you ever considered that if people don't like talking to you in any cenario then the problem isn't the cenario it's you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:18 PM
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You know men can not be bitter incels and not have casual sex right? There's nothing wrong with having casual sex if everyone involved has agreed to it but some people just don't make that the goal of their existence. If I was a man I wouldn't want casual sex (something I've never done as a woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:15 PM
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That includes the decision to take drugs, I never said the woman did nothing wrong, I said BOTH people are to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:56 AM
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Yes and? It's still his fault that he is doing drugs and that he abandoned his child instead of quitting. You're so focused on blaming women for everything you're forgetting obvious shit here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:53 AM
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All you're doing is justifying why it is ALSO her fault. I didn't see anything the clears the druggie. So unless he was tied up and drugged against his will it's BOTH of their faults
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:44 AM
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So, it isn't entirely her fault, it took 2 people to make the baby and thus it's both of their faults. And a baby isn't inherently a problem but it certainly is one for someone who doesn't have the means to take care of a baby by themselves and the other person bailed on them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:29 AM
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She made a bad choice, and he was a bad person. Acting like it isn't BOTH of their faults is either dumb or dishonest. And it being (also) her fault is my point, the reason she has changed her mind and now sees that she was dumb isn't because she has less dating options, it's because she has a fucking child to take care of. Not that many dating options is a way better problem to have than a child
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:22 AM
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That has nothing to do with opinions it has everything to do with the fact that she now has a child she has to take care of by herself due to the incompetency of the guy she had sex with. Of course anyone would regret that decision
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:37 PM
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If you're married wouldn't you move in together?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:04 PM
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Most of that doesn't even look like entitlement, it seems like you're just seeing what you want to see. Helping a friend move in/out is just a normal thing to do regardless of gender, I'm a woman and I've helped friends move in before and even helped with painting walls. The same goes for not leaving your friends alone when you're hanging out with them, that has nothing to do with being a body guard most people simply feel safer going out with friends than completely by themselves, even if the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:02 PM
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That literally gives me 0 results on Google
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:45 PM
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I literally never hear of that or seen any articles on it, do you have a link to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:10 PM
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Well I'm in a very urban liberal area and mostly interact with young people and I'd say most women and men I interact with have pretty reasonable dating standards, there's always the few dumb ones like the guy who refuses to date any non asian/white women or the girl who's like bla bla 6ft but most people I know (educated people mostly) aren't like that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:57 PM
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Weather the dating market is old school or not depends a lot on your location, age range, and social circle, and the same is true about women being "woke" or not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:15 PM
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That's the conclusions you get to when you see life trough a cartoon instead of, you know, real life. There's many guys that get laid without having to cross boundaries and harass people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:32 PM
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If you don't trust them to be monogamous you shouldn't be in a relationship at all, it's not like people that live together never cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:44 PM
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I think it depends a lot on specific cases, living together has a very large economic advantage, and even if you live separately there are always "chores" to be divided, like planning a vacation together, or cleaning up stuff after cooking together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:43 PM
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Being caring and nurturing has nothing to do with creming the floor, and you're lacking some sources there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:51 PM
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Well, it's hard for people on the internet that don't know you to know why you can't get a partner. Considering the fact that you work out, eat healthy, and haven't mentioned anything that would be a big issue looks wise I'm assuming your problem is not with how you look. Do you have any female friends you could ask this to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:10 AM
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So is telling people to study if they need better grades, doesn't mean it's wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:05 PM
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Get rid of your insecurities. If she's been with a lot of people and picked you that means she likes you better than the other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:03 AM
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The most social/charismatic ones, the guy who's friends with everyone basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:00 AM
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Both options 1 and 3 sound perfectly reasonable, 2 doesn't seem very practical for married people who have common expenses all the time. And you shouldn't be marrying someone you don't trust with your money to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:18 PM
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If I can have fun getting a couple PhDs and building shit that costs thousands of dollars and stay with my current partner, yeah sure, sounds like a good deal. I still wouldn't have any kids regardless of money
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:43 PM
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Oh yeah great idea so people can live together while both hating each other because none of them wants to be literally homeless after the other one gets the house
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:48 PM
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The only way you can really hide it is to not act on it at all, in which case you're not really "following" it. I'm dating a man that traveled to another hemisphere to see me, even though he knew sex was not going to happen. He told his parents about me really early on and I was the first partner he ever introduced to his family. I can be sure he's not "redpill" and yes it is pretty easy to notice especially if you don't have sex until you're already dating them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:39 PM
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That's probably because you're in a city with a lot of rich people, the vast majority of people don't have the money to travel around the world, but the ones who do usually take advantage of it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:29 PM
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Do you know what leftist means? Because you're clearly not one
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:31 AM
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If you had to choose between an average monogamous guy or a polygamous high-value male, which would you choose for a short or long-term relationship? I already chose, I'm in a monogamous long term relationship, I think my boyfriend is extremely attractive, but by societal standards he's probably average. And when it comes to dating apps, the reason only the top men get anything at all is probably because there's just way more men than women, you don't need to go that far to explain what's happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:28 AM
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You seem to be forgetting that there's people who are BOTH attractive and good people that won't leave after a few nights, and for many people how someone acts is part of how attractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:23 PM
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Yeah makes sense. Making your happiness dependent on one person is never good, there's always people that act like getting a gf/bf would solve all of their problems but it won't, you need other people too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:57 PM
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The reasons they wore makeup were all SOCIETAL reasons. They're random in the sense of where and at what point in times each gender used it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:14 AM
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Sure they do but there have been several environments with makeup and what gender wears them has been historically pretty much random
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 01:15 AM
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No it isn't. And for the genetic factors to be in place they have to evolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:32 PM
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Yeah. And that if humans change behavior in a time they couldn't have evolved that behavior is mostly determined by the environment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:33 PM
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No it isn't for reasons I have already explained
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:14 PM
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You're literally just repeating yourself by now. You can go own with your life thinking that genetics determines who wears makeup, you have the right to be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:57 PM
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The environment is part of nurture, if some traits are determined by the environment they are ny definition not genetic traits, they're traits from environmental influence, and you know what's part of your environment, the culture of your people. And yes for the sake of genetic traits populations that came from the same ancestors less than a couple years apart are identical. You continue to demonstrate that you haven't finished high school and now I doubt you're even capable that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:49 PM
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I never said women are super prudent, just that when it comes to condoms women are less against it than men in general. You're literally just moving the goalposts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:40 PM
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So you ran out of arguments and went into name-calling because you want to justify being sexualy irresponsible
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:16 PM
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No. But the reason to their imprudency matters, you can't fix something you don't know the reason of, for example if a large number of women believe condoms should be used but are ashamed of buying them that would have a different fix than them believing condoms aren't important. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-prevalence-of-multiple-sexual-risk-behaviors-by-age-group-and-gender_tbl1_329165110 And when it comes to actually partaking in sexual risky behaviors it seems like men do it more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:03 PM
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Beliefs do matter. If someone believes black people are inferior but doesn't act on it are they racist? Would you date someone who believes you're disgusting but pretends to like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:52 PM
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And I am talking about the beliefs about condom use. And your experiences aren't everyone's experiences. Anecdotes are pretty much worthless unless someone is claiming that ALL women use condoms which im not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:47 PM
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Human populations that come from the same ancestors in a span of less than a couple thousand years are genetically identical. Evolution is incredibly slow and the recorded human history is basically nothing in an evolutionary scale. Im not talking about twins im talking about the frequency of relevant genetic factors in an entire population. Maybe you'll learn about it when you finish high school
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:34 PM
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It just sounds like you dont know how science works. Or evolution for that matter. Again genetically identical populations means we have already accounted for the genetic factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:21 PM
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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/wmh3.422 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0017896912450240
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:19 PM
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Lol sure you are. And sure it is a calculation, and when it comes to complete strangers that have had sex with other people before and don't have an STD test the result of this calculation is that it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:19 PM
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Do you think there is a gene for an article of clothing or something? No That's silly. Genetic factors can play all kinds of roles, including proclivities. It's not, if genetically identical populations behave differently the differences can be attributed to culture. There's 2 variables, if one is kept the same and the results change we know the other one is affecting those results. It's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:16 PM
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Sounds like a skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:14 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0017896912450240 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/wmh3.422
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:14 PM
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Genetics doesn't change in a thousand years of human history, and yet what people wear massively changed. Anything that changes from culture to culture in small (im an evolutionary scale) period of time should be attributed to human society. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, so maybe you should go study some stuff before telling that to other people, but not the basics, college level STEM classes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:22 AM
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Oh i see why you don't get it, you're also dumb. Not to mention that you don't only avoid things because they're life-changing. Giving 1000 bucks to a scammer isn't life-changing but you would be dumb for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:11 AM
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You understand you're commenting on it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:09 AM
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If you're having sex with a stranger who hasn't just shown you an STD test and you don't use a condom you are dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:14 PM
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Yeah and
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:13 PM
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Ok if i literally have to explain like you're 5 here we go: If in culture A men do X, and in culture B women do X then it must be that this is a.... CULTURAL phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:12 PM
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Do you seriously think that makeup usage is genetic? And thanks again for not addressing the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:14 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0213911110002840#:~:text=Risky%20sexual%20relations%20were%20observed,CI%20%3A%200.29%2D0.43). Once again your experience isn't everyone's
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 06:13 PM
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Most men don't have a vasectomy. Using a condom when a pregnancy is impossible only makes sense if there's a chance of one party having an STD ir STI. Your case isn't the average case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:40 PM
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Yeah and most women are not actively against condoms where a lot of men are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:24 PM
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That's not grandiose and you haven't addressed the actual argument. If something changes depending on culture it's not genetic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:23 PM
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And yet you don't seem to understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:30 PM
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Being bad at communication does make you unattractive though. And if that is the reason you can't get a partner then you're probably bad at sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:01 PM
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Most, isn't the same as all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:40 PM
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A lot of places are, a lot of colleges have a ratio very close to 50/50, so do many workplaces, friend gatherings hosted by basically any straight couple, and most countries have a very close to 50/50 ratio. Not to mention there are many places with more women than men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:39 PM
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Yeah most people are dumb, I usually don't socialize with dumb people. But most women not using condoms aren't against it, they're just dumb enough to go with the guy who is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:34 PM
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Lol you were victim blaming, deleted your comment, and now you're triggered so you're insulting random people. Maybe you should get a life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:27 PM
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Real life doesn't have to be necessarily in the workplace, it could be an introduction made by friends or meeting someone in a party or event. And the reason most people say real live is easier for men than online dating is because online dating has way more men than women putting men in a mathematical disadvantage. In the real world there's about the same amount of men and women so the mathematical disadvantage isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:50 PM
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Not only there are people who participate in hookup and are responsible about it, just because she wasn't, doesn't mean everyone else isn't. But also she sounds like the victim there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:46 PM
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Being good at sex is way more about communication than mechanical skills. If you're bad at communicating you're bad at sex. So if you can't talk to women you're probably not good at it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:20 PM
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That's, being raped. And the blame is 100% on the rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:13 PM
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Makeup was invented for men. In many cultures men wore dresses. High heels were invented for men. In many cultures long hair was considered masculine. If it Changes with culture and time, it's not genetic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:09 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:06 PM
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Maybe like 5 milion dollars and ill consider. I really don't want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:46 AM
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Most women i know don't fuck random guys, and the ones that do definitely use condoms. Usually the men are the ones against condoms not the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:45 AM
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Why are you bitching on reddit instead of calling the cops then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:44 AM
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What sources? You have none
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:32 AM
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They do as shown in the sources I sent, and the ones you did too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:07 AM
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So you don't have any sources, you just don't want to believe reality, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:07 AM
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There are others, I could link more, do you have anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:38 AM
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I never said you have to be smart to be rich but they are correlated that's a fact. And lol Yahoo is not a source. Making a story about football players is also not a source, were talking about averages here. And on average women do prefer more inteligent man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:37 AM
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I'm not sure how exactly you would adequately pre select out the liars. It seems like you just have to date them until they reveal their hand I do it, I just don't date total strangers, either classmates, someone who my friends already know, or someone that I met in some other way, but never randos from dating apps eventually becomes more and more common overtime because it's well... "normal." So is drinking, and yet I can live my life only dating men who don't drink Again, im not arguing most w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:49 PM
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What has really been striking for me lurking and participating in these gender wars conversations/debates/dumpster fires is the degree to which large numbers of women appear to be perfectly willing to lie about whatsoever might hurt them in locking down a man they want. You understand that people in "gender war" conversations don't represent everyone else right. If you go by this sub almost every man is undatable, but in real life, a lot of guys are totally fine and normal people who don't separ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:22 PM
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The source i sent is about kids, being married can have effects on income besides having kids And the latter is not an argument, it is a thesis, the argument is supposed to suport it, you don't have one. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886918306032 https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/121/2/673/1884033?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false And yes women do select for inteligence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:41 PM
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What OP wants isn't what im talking about, society putting both men and women in boxes and using those terms for it is simply a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:34 PM
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Yeah, but as I already said, the reality im talking about isn't nearly as extreme, if even 10% of people aren't hypocritical that's already more than good enough. And I already sent you the data on hookups, a lot of people don't partake in them, the same is true for cheating if you want data I can't get you some.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:33 PM
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Have you ever considered your observations are just wrong because of your bias? And sure people do cheat, but statistically the majority of people don't, and women do it less than men on average And now you're contradicting yourself, if you do have something to lose then just don't be a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:36 PM
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As long as the concepts are literally tied to gender and sex people will never be 100% free to choose whether to partake in them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:13 PM
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The assumption if you don't have any data should be that neither side is incredibly rare at the point you could never find someone in it. And if the main hypocrisy from women comes from casual sex then I sure have proof that a decent amount of women wouldn't be included https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210324/Study-Casual-sex-has-declined-for-both-young-men-and-women.aspx Since not everyone engages in casual sex You also have nothing to lose by manipulating people and lying, but you still sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 06:11 PM
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It's restricting for both men and women, maybe read the whole comment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:35 PM
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If you're going to have arbitrary concepts to describe people why would you associate them with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:35 PM
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Not only you have no proof that an overwhelming majority of people are engaging in this behavior but even if they are you still don't have to engage in it yourself. Women that aren't partaking in the hypocritical standards won't want to date men who are, and vice versa. Just because most people in your generation do something doesn't mean you can't date someone who doesn't or that you have to do this yourself. Most people in my generation like to drink alcohol and go to overcrowded parties with …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:12 PM
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So people aren't allowed to have subjective standards or care about anything other than looks? If someone looks good or better than you you're now forced to date them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:03 PM
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Saying that being feminine is being soft is the same thing as saying women who aren't soft aren't feminine. And you can't act like society in general doesn't shame women for not being feminine or men for being feminine, just because your dad doesn't do that doesn't mean other people don't. The concept is restricting as it is used IN GENERAL not by your dad specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:09 PM
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Partaking in a war after being bombed and being petty to random people because someone else was petty to you are very different things. Using your example the US was justified in attacking Japan but NOT in putting Asian Americans in concentration camps for doing literally nothing wrong. You can simply not date people who are hypocritical, and still not have hypocritical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:05 PM
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Not all women move this way, not all women are "soft" and acting like all women should be soft or like men shouldn't is restricting people for no good reason
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:56 PM
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If you see people in your class cheating on the test that doesn't mean you should too. You're acting the same way as a child saying "but mom Jimmy was also (insert here bad thing)"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:47 PM
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Preference in hobbies and things such as who wears makeup, has long hair, and wears dresses are not genetic, they're forced on us by society, and restricting people's choices by shaming men or women for not following gender roles is detrimental to our freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:45 PM
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https://www.livescience.com/15408-partners-overrate-attractiveness.html The results showed that both men and women consistently rated both their own hotness and that of their partner higher than the strangers did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:42 PM
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You have to have some things in common to have a successful relationship, such as whether you want to have kids, what you want out of the relationship, and what lifestyle do you want Someone who wants to live on a trailer going around the country and someone who wants to buy a house and have a calm life with a stable in person job can't have a lasting relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:16 PM
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For those who lost the million the best choice would be to choose the 5k, therefore, choosing the 90% was the worst choice. That's not how choices work. The best choice has to be calculated before any probabilistic resolution. It again seems like you simply don't understand how choice heuristics work. They don't made Or how English works for that matter risk/rewards are not a indicative of best choice They are. You want it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:35 PM
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So are you arguing that a 20yo and a 30yo can have things in como or that you don't need to have anything in common to have a successful relationship? Because the first one is true, the second one isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:24 PM
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A dumb concept humans created to put women in a box. And yes masculinity is also a dumb concept humans created to put men in a box
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:19 PM
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That's wrong. People make good choices and regret them all the time. If you have 2 choices, one 90% chance to get a milion dollars, and a certain 5k the first choice is mathematically better, but about 10% of people might regret it after getting nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:06 PM
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Just become you have the right to have a preference doesn't mean that preference is not hypocritical. And women having hypocritical preferences also doesn't change anything, it just means that now both you and those specific women are hypocritical. Arguing about the fairness of those rules while having your own unfair rules is the only hypocritical thing in this whole story. Well it would be hypocritical to call someone out for something you also do, but you seem to be forgetting that some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 12:04 PM
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Congratulations on not understanding choice heuristic. More choices lead to a worse user experience and a higher chance of regret but again, that isn't the same as a worse choice, that just means people are insecure about the choice they make when there are more options
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:49 AM
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the more options you give the customer, the worse they are at making the best choice. That's not true, if you have more options you'll be less certain in your choice but it doesn't mean that the choice itself is worse. A job with more applicants is more likely to hire a good candidate, not less
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:22 AM
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Drinking, smoking, being "redpill", being conservative, caring about gender roles, being homophobic/sexist/racist, and having or wanting children (nothing wrong with them i just don't want children) Also you know that people can be sexualy active and not have to test for anything right? It's called monogamy, if you're fucking the same person for years you won't just make STDs appear like schools in religious fundamental areas teach you. 4) Has a lot of male friends and few to no female ones And …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:19 AM
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We've already seen that a significant amount of the difference cannot be explained just by the fact they are married. No we didn't, what's your source? I will also argue that the idea women select for intelligence and charisma is flat out wrong Again source?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:33 PM
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Again, that can have multiple explanations, it could be that being married makes men earn more due do one factor or another, it could be that women are selecting for inteligence and charisma and that happens to be associated with money. You can't assume the cause without evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:34 PM
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Most people don't want to date 30yos without a job so yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:02 PM
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Start by getting a job, save some money to move out of your parents house. Driving could not be necessary depending on where you live, if it's somewhere like new York using a car is slow as fuck anyways, but if you're in a suburban area then learning how to drive seems pretty useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:12 PM
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Just being nice to people in general. I don't really care about arbitrary rules such as elbows on the table or who opens the door
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:08 PM
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I don't have to deal with anything, I already have a healthy relationship, if you'll never have one that's not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:59 AM
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Older women are not more physically attractive, the same thing is true about older men. But they can be a more attractive partner choice for a man that is around their age, has a similar lifestyle, doesn't want to manipulate people, and doesn't want to date someone who's immature and just has a different outlook on life in general
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:44 AM
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They're selfish, bad people and are trying to make justifications for it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:44 AM
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If you don't tell her that you only want casual sex then yes. Consent should be informed, that information includes the intentions of the person you're fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:42 AM
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Oh yeah what's the difference when someone dies from cancer or gets murderered they die anyways? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:41 AM
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Again, neither does yours. And again, THE POINT IS WE CAN'T ASSUME THE REASON IS SELECTION UNLESS WE HAVE PROOF It also seems at this point you just want to continue to believe women are virtuous and selfless, rather than cold and pragmatic in relationships towards men. Lol not you're just butthurt and making shit up, you know there's a middle there right? Like being fucking normal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:46 AM
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You know that's not how all humans work right, most people are in fact not sociopaths
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:44 AM
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Something being attractive and being all it takes are very different things. Something can be required but not sufficient
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:18 PM
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I'm not backing down on anything you simply don't seem to understand the difference between bodly autonomy and financial autonomy, one of them supersedes the other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:18 PM
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Why are you assuming women don't find that attractive? I definitely do. Feeling safe with someone and believing they won't leave you after sex are pretty important
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:46 PM
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Someone already put it on this thread, maybe try reading
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:32 PM
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it can be traced even in a first few days after birth No it can't. Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:01 PM
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I do think my boyfriend looks good, but that's not the main point. The way he touches me, the way he smells, and the way he sounds, are probably more important than looks by themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:40 PM
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Don't do into a relationship thinking "what i can gain from that" just get to know people and see if they make you happy when they're around. it would be to ditch your ego, baggage, and bitterness against the other gender, assume everyone is just doing their best, treat people like humans, and look for someone whose life and decisions you respect over some arbitrary set of physical characteristics. And I totally agree with that. If you don't respect someone's decisions there's no point in being …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:37 PM
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You don't have full financial autonomy, you have to pay taxes, and you're not forced to donate blood. The fact that i pay taxes doesn't mean i don't have bodily autonomy. Those are not related Just like the fact that abortion is banned doesn't mean you don't have bodily autonomy and i can legally remove your organs etc. It does, bodly autonomy includes the author of doing procedures not just not being attacked So considering this, is there a justification to ban abortion? No there isn't, the gov…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:22 PM
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The first weeks in life are whe were the most subject to parenting. Sexual traits show up either at birth or during poverty, that one doesn't show up in ano of those times being a good indication that it is just an external influence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:17 PM
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I'm not, do you have an actual argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:15 PM
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Sexual dimorphic traits should present themselves either from birth or show up during puberty, any other time would indicate a social component
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:14 PM
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If you understand that there can be reasons a good person might be single by your age (like the one you gave for yourself) then it is not true that women at your age must not be good partners if they're single. They might literally just have something that was keeping them from getting into a relationship just like you did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:23 AM
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That depends on the specific person, how they treat me, and what they are doing about their trauma, are they going to therapy and trying to become better or just using it as an excuse to be an ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:19 AM
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My boyfriend opened up to me many times, he's scared of a lot of stuff due to social anxiety, we both cried in front of each other multiple times due to multiple reasons. And I think he's the most attractive man alive, opening up would never detract from that, for me it's really important to feel like we truly understand each other, and opening up is pretty much required for that to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:17 AM
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The second article gives no evidence as to why married men earn more Neither does the one you sent. My point is you cannot assume that all of the income difference is created by women selecting for money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:07 AM
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That's only on the second visit, on the first one there was little gender difference. So it could literally be that parents socialize more with female babies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:06 AM
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That just proves babies prefer women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:28 AM
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I'm monogamous so I wouldn't get in a relação with that type of men. But I would prefer to be told upfront so I don't waste my time, and if he's a cool guy I could also introduce him to non monogamous friends
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:04 PM
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In many cultures men were seen as leaders, and leading was seen as being people oriented
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:01 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:31 PM
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Definitely not fine, and I would instantly break up if I found out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:17 PM
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Men also need human connection we all do. Women being more interested in people and men being more interested in things is a learned behavior, it doesn't have to be like that. And the healthy thing to do is to find the middle, you can be Interested in some things and some people. I'm personally not very Interested in people in general, and stuff like math and tech sound much more appealing to me, but I'm still Interested in SOME people, the people I have a connection with, and as long as I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:37 PM
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That's what I was saying the entire time, that bigger income does mean big income, most men and women make shit money. And you're forgetting that not all of this income difference is selected for by women. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/upshot/a-child-helps-your-career-if-youre-a-man.amp.html Men get an increase in their salary when they have kids (which is highly correlated with being married) https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/regional-economist/april-2002/for-lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:06 PM
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Yeah so my point is, they're all making shit money
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:48 PM
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That's just people at age 45, that's not representative for anyone under 30
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:50 PM
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Around peak earning years, where most people make around $50k, married men are making $85k a year. That's a big difference. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:09 AM
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Bigger incomes, doesn't mean a big income
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:53 AM
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Yeah, the difference is, ignoring people can be justifiable in a lot of cenarios, insulting strangers on the street cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:57 PM
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Ignoring a stranger and insulting a stranger are very different things, one of them can even get you arrested. You're comparing things that aren't comparable, it's not about being a man or woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:50 PM
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You can't say an entire group is hypocritical because people in it disagree. On that logic men are hypocritical, and so are black people, white people, Asian people, Americans, Europeans...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:29 PM
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I don't think you understand what hypocrisy means but it's not when 2 DIFFERENT PEOPLE said things that contradict each other
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:25 PM
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Not necessarily, that person could be in a hurry and stressed about something, they could be scared of you especially if it's a woman walking alone, they could have legitimately not heard you, they could not speak your language... And depending on the person ignoring them is definitely safer, I've been approached on the streets by a mentally I'll person before and I made the mistake of talking to her, she followed me for blocks and tried to touch me multiple times, that's just not safe. And yes …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:51 PM
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What a useless fucking link that doesn't even say by how much women spend more than man. Not to mention some of your points being literally bs https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.louisianafcu.org/articles/how-men-and-women-spend-their-money-differently%3fhs_amp=true Single men spend marginally more than single women https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/03/what-is-the-gender-wage-gap-in-your-state.html#:~:text=In%202020%2C%20women%20earned%2083,gap%20is%20narrowing%20but%20continues. And men …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:39 PM
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I couldn't care less about who those women date. But it's pretty simple that some men are willing to marry women with a promiscuous past and some aren't, so yes there is a chance of women getting married no matter how many people they fucked, the chances might just be lower, and the man they marry is probably going to be someone that also fucked around
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:31 PM
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I think any reasonable human can conclude that OP means both men and women care about both looks and personality, what you think looks good is still relative to whether you like men or women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:28 PM
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Just flip it around. Imagine you approached anyone (man or women) greeted them and they just straight faced ignored you The normal and civilized reaction to this is not insulting people. It's going lol ok then and just leaving. Sometimes people legitimately don't hear you, sometimes they have something happening right now that prevents them from talking to you. Acting like a toddler when you dont get what you want wont make anything better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:24 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023121996854 Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:48 AM
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Some women don't want casual sex,regardless of how good you look they want a connection
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:18 AM
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The genuine desire has nothing to do with being an average guy of not, there's many average guys with partners that desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:04 PM
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Not really, they're on average in their 40s, and the men they're married to are on average a couple years older. That's literally just how statistics work, the average age of people in the US is under 40 so you couldn't have the cenario you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:44 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ The majority of both men and women under 30 are either in a relationship or don't want one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:41 PM
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That still means it's not hard for guys to get a relationship, if you want sex that much just commit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:39 PM
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So is men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:25 PM
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Women (in general) are solely and biologically obsessed with having kids or at least the idea of having kids Do you have any source for that? Or did you just take it off your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:18 PM
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You know that average men and average women have partners all around the world right, in fact most average men, and most average women, are dating or married. Most people don't see their partner as a way to brag to other people that they have the best partner. Most of the "negatives" you talked about aren't even related to the relationship you'll have with that person but what other people will think, and why the fuck should I care about what other people think? The whole point of a partner is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:09 PM
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Do you have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:00 PM
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You understand that you're proving my point right. Women can also have multiple fuck buddies, and as you said, you had 2 fuck buddies as a "normal guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:59 PM
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Again I said there are also other problems that aren't fixable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:52 AM
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Do you have any source that's happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:51 AM
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The process isn't what matters, the ratio is. The apps have way more men, reality doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:48 AM
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That's just because there's mote men who want casual sex than women. The same isn't true for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:01 PM
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I know it comes from o line dating, but men in this sub act like it applied to real life, when it very clearly doesn't. And you seem to be ignoring that the number also increased for women. And that people are doing a lot of other things later in life, such as dying, getting married, finishing education, having kids, getting jobs, buying houses... it's no surprise the same would be true about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:20 PM
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So that means 69% of men are fucking 81% of women (in that specific age range) which is very far from the 80/20 discourse. And 69% of men are not a few men, they're literally the majority. The majority of young men are having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:13 PM
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What did I lose? The respect of an incel? Ill live
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:06 PM
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Some people just have chemical imbalances and there's no fixing their life that could change anything. Nobody shames people who have heart issues for taking pills every day why should we do it for brain issues? Not to mention a lot of problems in people's like that are making them depressed are just not fixable, like having a child with a disability that will never be able to take care of themselves and sucks all of your time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:05 PM
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So you have a source besides your dry dick and obsession with "ad" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 07:01 PM
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And they are... SINGLE MEN what a surprise. And your obsession with names than end in "ad" is pretty unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:58 PM
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For example, we know older women use far more antidepressants regardless of civil status That has nothing to do with being single or not, that just means being old sucks (for both men and women) and women are more likely to ask for help
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:57 PM
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Who are those fuck buddies, hookups, and dates? Are they not single men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:52 PM
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Women have closer friendships with other women than men do with other men https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/happiness-is-state-mind/202112/exploring-the-differences-between-male-and-female-friendships Women get a lot of their emotional needs met by friendships, you can't feel lonely if you share most of your life with someone else. Men on the other hand tend to be closed of from their male friends so they can't fulfill the same needs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:45 PM
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You know what are the men dating the women between 20 and 24, mostly men between 21 and 26
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:25 PM
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69% of american men have partners, many of them are fat. Not to mention, this also happens to fat women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 04:05 PM
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There's women out there complaining guys are too fat, there's guys out there complaining women are too fat, because on average Americans are too fat, but on average Americans also have a partner, so most people settle. Neither men nor women are forced to be slim, and both men and women will be shamed for not being slim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:37 AM
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Isn't that just called a friend? And yes my partner can have friends
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:32 AM
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You do have bodly autonomy You do not have financial autonomy How many times will I have to say it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:29 AM
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Sometimes it does, doesn't mean you should start a friendship with those expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:28 AM
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Sure, show me just the abstract, you don't have to pay for it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:27 AM
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That's not what im talking about lol, the point it that if the paper was relevant you should be able to easily Google and find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:17 AM
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I don't see how that could be used as a power dynamic to abuse a partner, but if you manage to find a way then it can be bad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:14 AM
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If you don't want to be friends with people you can just not. No need to play pretent
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:10 AM
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I'm never said anyone owes me anything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:24 AM
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Have you heard the part where I say THEY ARE NOT GENDERED? Neither women nor men live in easy mode, rich people do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:31 AM
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Being social isn't all you need. But it definitely helps a lot can't date people if you don't meet people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:22 AM
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If a paper is old enough that you can't fucking find it then it is no longer relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:08 AM
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Most problems most humans have aren't related to gender, having to work, poverty, diseases...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:07 AM
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A very small of women not having to work doesn't means it's easier for women to date. One good way to find how easy something is is by it's sucess rate and men and women have the same sucess rate on dating
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:55 PM
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You didn't explain why, you just talked about unrelated shit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:44 PM
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You open your phone, you see a notification on LinkedIn you think it might be a cool job opportunity, but as soon as you interact they just want to get in your pants. You met someone and think you made a new friend, and as soon as you mention you have a boyfriend they completely dissappear. You randomly get messages from strangers asking for nudes and saying sexual things that make you feel gross. Guys you barely know like colleges randomly make comments about parts of your body. Men try to hit …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:03 PM
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Yeah and when you're talking about men and women as a whole the difficulty of getting a relationship is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:57 PM
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Age gaps aren't always wrong, they have a bigger probability of being abusive, and yes the same is true for large income gaps, especially if the person with the smaller income doesn't make enough to live. If one person makes 100k and the other a milion then I don't see an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:53 PM
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The problem is that this is a false analogy. in the case of abortion the child already has access to your body. With abortion, you want to kill it so it doesn't have acces to your body any longer. Sure if you're that anal ill change it since this aspect doesn't fucking matter. If you get in a car crash, that is your fault, and you wake up with the blood of the person you hit being cycled trough your body, you have the right to disconnect them even if that means killing them. So it can never be c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:31 PM
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The options youre talking about are not available to the vast majority of women. And dating apps have much more men because a lot of those men use it for casual sex. Yes there is an imbalance when it comes to casual sex. But that imbalance doesn't exist for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:28 PM
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Have you heard of Google?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:59 PM
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If you get in a car accident, that's your fault, and the other person involved needs a kidney you don't have to give it to them. It doesn't matter who's fault is it, nobody can use someone else's body to survive without their consent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:59 PM
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The point that is the same, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:57 PM
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Again, if those men are not getting the introductions then there's women that don't get introductions to them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:57 PM
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Yeah, and the same amount of women are also not in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:13 PM
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If that was true it should be easy to find
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:13 PM
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Yeah, and getting a partner as a men or a women is equally hard since there are the same amount of men and women available
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:25 PM
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Do you have a link for those studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:25 PM
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69% of all men are in relationships, that means men who are worse than average are in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:24 PM
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I never claimed otherwise, all I said is most women don't have that option
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:19 PM
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So basically both men and women are settling on average since both the average men and women are a pretty bad deal. Basically proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:19 PM
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Yeah. But in some cases killing people is allowed. For example if someone is physically threatening you then you can kill them. The same should be true about someone's who's body is living off of your own. You should not be forced to share vital bodly resources with other humans
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:17 PM
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So, as I said, most women don't have the option
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:16 PM
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Those are the same entity
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:58 PM
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Women have the option to work Again, extremely classist. Most women don't have that option. Most families cannot live on one income So the standards are higher for men because there's already a lot of decent men Lol no there aren't. The average American man is fat, makes about 38k a year, doesn't have a Batchelors degree, and does not have a good "social standing" as you call Thanks for admitting that men wearing makeup is not socially accepted. That's not what I said, it looks like you're bad a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:57 PM
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Poor women never had that option. The entire fight to let women in the workplace was only for white women, black women were already working. It seems like you're the one unaware of history here. https://www.amemoirfromthehomefront.com/the-short-mythical-era-of-the-stay-at-home-mom/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:51 PM
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Do you think women don't settle? Again, most men are in relationships, that includes a lot of average and bellow average men, women probably settled for them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:39 PM
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No. Can you even read? You kill the fetus and there is no baby to be taken care of. If you don't kill the fetus then both people who participated in creating it should be responsible for it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:38 PM
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Again. Men have to do more for reasons already described at length previously. No they don't, if you have more aspects each aspect has less weight, you have to remember you're competing with other men The brief summary of this (again) is as follows. Women tend to date up and even at the least Only in income. And that's because men still make more on average those are things that men CAN'T do Ever heard of "no makeup" makeup, man can totally do it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:37 PM
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By killing the fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:30 PM
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It's not a choice for most women either, the majority of people aren't well off westerns and they have to work regardless of gender
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:22 PM
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I literally already wrote why they're wrong. First of all the amount of men and women in relationships is necessarily the same if you're only counting straight people. And all you did was say that men have to do the same things women do, which proves my point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:21 PM
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The mess the 2 people have sex caused by having a baby they don't want to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 07:20 PM
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Again im not claiming it's harder for women to attract a partner, it is simply THE SAME SHIT, but men keep acting like victims in this sub It's natural that educated men will be dating a woman who does not possess as high of a level of education. You clearly didn't read the study. But in terms of education men date up And it being one or more factors is completely irrelevant lol. Do you have any actual arguments or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:59 PM
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Looking attractive requires women to do things. Go to the gym, get most of your body hair shaven, have long hair which is usually pretty high maintenance... https://www.jstor.org/stable/44135456#metadata_info_tab_contents Men also prefer more educated women. https://www.ilo.org/global/about-the-ilo/newsroom/news/WCMS_545963/lang--en/index.htm#:~:text=The%20findings%20are%20revealing%3A%20A,women%20to%20stay%20at%20home. Men prefer women who work. And of course there's all of the genetic factors …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:05 PM
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Do you have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:51 PM
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Because the child has already been created, when 2 people had sex. The abortions "fixes it". But not aborting isn't the same as creating a child the same way that not cleaning a mess isn't the same thing as making the mess
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:47 PM
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The fetus is already created, abortion is to kill the fetus, that was, again, ALREADY CREATED, and is thus a kin to cleaning up the mess
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:21 PM
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And he continues to not have arguments or sources, only dumb responses available
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:59 PM
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I do live in a big city, and grew up in another one. In fact I live in a college in a big city. And it's very obvious that you have absolutely no sources or arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:56 PM
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The average guy is in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:51 PM
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Yes & likewise no one is entitled to housing, food or money They should, the governo should provide that for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:49 PM
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Do you understand how survays work? And do you have any sources at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:49 PM
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Average men. All I need is one person to be attracted to me, anything past that is just annoying. And guys trying to get dates by messaging me on LinkedIn are not welcome, same goes for people interrupting my day and/or harassing me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:48 PM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/306518734_Sexual_History_and_Present_Attractiveness_People_Want_a_Mate_With_a_Bit_of_a_Past_But_Not_Too_Much People in the real world also prefer partners who dont have a long list. Not virgins, but both men and women think 2 is the ideal number
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:22 PM
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Sure that exists, I mean ON AVERAGE
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:27 PM
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what if you shave off your beard only for it to reveal weak round recessed jaw? Grooming also includes keeping the beard, in this case you should keep it, but well maintained except they wont since they probably are not all good looking underneath That doesn't mean there's no improvement. Not being fat is more attractive to most people nowadays. And very nice not addressing the other points, I think we can conclude OP is bs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:16 PM
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Being more confident certainly does. And don't men here bitch all the time about women wanting guys that make more money, how come the money doesn't matter now? And yes getting better grooming and clothes can make a dig difference Like here Like here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:09 PM
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Women are also bound by their genes, some women can't get as fit as others, and some men want that, that's not a gendered issues and there isnt anything else a male can do except gym Oh yeah besides getting a better job, working on your confidence and your personality, getting better grooming like a good quality haircut, wearing better clothes, making more friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:49 PM
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I'm not in favor of any surgeries only for appearance. My point isn't that you should do that, it's that OP is cherry picking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:39 PM
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Lmao "refusing to abort"=deciding to create a child. Is refusing to clean a mess the same as making it? No. Again you're simply wrong. "No i didn't decide to shoot him in the head, i just refused not to relax my hand and move the gun away" Not analogous. What is actually analogous is he was already shot and you have the power to instantly cure him but don't. it's irrelevant if "impregnation" is men's fault or not. Oh it isn't. It's pretty relevant that the baby requires 2 people to make and thus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:37 PM
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To get a man they find attractive that wants to form a relationship and not just fuck them and leave they have to ACTUALLY BE ATTRACTIVE
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:35 PM
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yes but those women dont want you, because they want better men And the rich ans successful guys don't want women their age i hope youre joking about the height surgery Literally just Google climbing mount Everest and building businesses is harder than just being peaceful, give it up Lol where did climbing everest even come from, youre delusional. And I didn't compare being submissive to any of those maybe try reading the actual comment next time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:33 PM
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You don't have to do what most people do to find a partner. If you do something that involves less people you have less options but also less competition. I'm an atheist, and personally against waiting until marriage, but I won't pretend like that doesn't work for some people. Being "an unsullied virgin bride" who doesn't drink or have sex may work for some but for the vast majority of people it does not. There's way more men who want virgin women then there are virgin women, look at this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:30 PM
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And if you're not attractive as a man you can still date women that are in your level of attractiveness lol. Not to mention you know there's not enough old rich men for every women right, because you yourself said that there's not that many rich guys, and a lot of them choose to date women much younger than them. And if you're talking about surgeries you know there's one to make people taller right, and that men can also get plastic surgery, and that the price is prohibitive for most women and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:21 AM
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You're literally just cherry picking, there's a bunch of stuff that can make men attractive that are mutable and stuff that make women attractive that aren't. Talent, status, and fame are all also attractive in women. And so is youth, something that you can't change. The same goes for your facial bone structure, men want women with feminine faces and that's almost purely genetics. Men's attractive is also based on how fit they are, you seem to have ignored that. Not to mention that if you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:56 AM
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Yeah. My boyfriend was a virgin when we met, we've been doing fine for a couple years together. He's an awesome person and meets all of my standards, none of them being based on the amount of people you fucked/dated before. I don't see how that would make a difference. It is important to me that my partner has the same attitude towards sex as me (treats it as something intimate and doesn't want to wait until marriage), but the number of partners itself isn't an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:49 AM
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The mother didn't decide to have it. She decided to not abort it, that's not the same thing. Again if you make a mess, and someone decides not to clean your mess the mess is still your fault. When you stop going back to the IMPREGNATING PEOPLE IS NOT MEN'S FAULT thing you can respond
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:44 AM
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According to who? All I said is I know people who met partners like that, it's literally a fact that it worked for them. If you want to fuck around it surely won't work but if you're religious and you want a committed partner it's another way to meet people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:42 AM
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Again, im not saying prostitution shouldn't be legal. I'm saying nobody is entitled to sex and a lot of men here act like they are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 01:40 AM
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I personally don't like those but that doesn't mean people don't meet there ans start dating. Ah yes people can't do things because I don't personally like them hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:57 PM
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I'm not against legalizing prostitution, of course with mandatory STD for both the workers and anyone to be qualified for getting the service. But there is a very big difference. You pay taxes, those taxes are used for stuff that benefits your entire country (in theory), it's pretty reasonable to force people to pay taxes, it is NOT reasonable to force them to have sex with people. Even if prostitution was legalized workers could arbitrarily refuse some clients if they wanted to and the price co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:52 PM
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Oh those are definitely important ones. If 2 people don't agree on those 3 it's basically impossible to maintain a relationship. And in my experience men who make an effort to adhere to gender roles are misogyny and expect the same from women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:32 PM
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I'm not saying women don't like casual sex, but they don't seek it in the same about as men, and usually have standards for casual sex that aren't too different from the ones they would for dating. But when it comes to dating both men and women seek it at about the same rate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:25 PM
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No it isn't. Men are willing to fuck women they wouldn't date, while women are (most of the time) not willing to fuck men they wouldn't date. That discrepancy exists in casual sex but there is no reason to assume it does in relationships, especially because the same amount of straight men and straight women are in relationships at a time for obvious reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 06:16 PM
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Yep, everyone is allowed to be picky when it comes to relationships, there isn't a big imbalance though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:55 PM
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Men are hornier, that doesn't mean they'll actually stay after they fuck. Women certainly can be pickier than men when it comes to casual sex but not when it comes to relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:34 PM
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Sharing interests and values with me: by definition I have to fit that if what I want is for my partner to have similar ones No smoaking or drinking: i do meet it Doesn't want kids: again, the entire reason I want that is because I don't want kids so yes I think in almost every case it is hypocritical to have standards you don't meet yourself, a smoaker saying they only date people who don't, a fat person saying they'll only date fit people, and someone who fucks around saying they'll only date …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:30 PM
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There's one I know about basically every week, I don't go to them anymore because I prefer to hand out in places without lound music, blinking lights, and drunk people. But of course you need to have friends ti be invited to a reasonable amount of parties. Not to mention that parties tied to social circles tend to have some of the same people, making it way easier to meet people and form friendships and relationships. If you get to a party and you see someone you talked to before you'll tend to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:13 PM
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There are trustworthy men and there are men who try to manipulate young women. If even 1% of men are trying to manipulate young women it still makes sense to warn them. And many of those warnings don't come from women, most older men in my family have warned me about it. You don't have to distrust men in general to warn younger women about manipulative men. The same way you don't have to think everyone is a robber to warn younger people or people that just moved to your city to not walk on area …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:42 PM
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That depends a lot on the party, there are many places where close to 30% of people are sober meaning there's always someone else with a functional brain you can chat with. Being the only sober person is definitely not fun but if there's other people then it's pretty easy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:37 PM
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No side has to have the burden of initiate and impress, relationships can start in a mutual way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:42 PM
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Women on average don't have more sex than men, women on average have way less orgasms in casual sex, sexual harassment is a problem for women...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:38 PM
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I never said it's disgusting and negative seems like you're projecting a bit here. All I said it's that it's not a privilege, for every women that fucks around there's a men that does it too. They surely have the right to do that. But that doesn't mean women have a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:25 PM
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Where did that even come from lol. Maybe look at my post history
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:22 PM
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Nobody is saying we can get rid of it. The point is this is not a privilege, it doesn't make women's life better to have guys willing to fuck them and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:06 PM
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The fact that you have to pay for something doesn't make it not a human right. And all morals are arbitrary, that doesn't mean they're not important. People die from the lack of food and shelter, you don't die from the lack of pussy. Not to mention that you can't be entitled to other human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:53 PM
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That has nothing to do with me, I never struggled to have housing and food, but some people do. People literally die of malnutrition. And besides that food and housing don't have opinions, your house is an object and so is the food you eat, you can be entitled to objects, but not people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:51 PM
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That's just angry fuel. They want to hate women and they use that as an excuse. It sure is a defense mechanism, but it doesn't help anyone, it doesn't make your life better, they're just as lonely and now also an angry misogynistic ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:08 PM
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"the man should not be forced to pay, as he has no responsibility since the existence of a child is not a consequence of his actions and decisions." That, is not an argument. That is a statement, an argument is supposed to supported your statement. You keep repeating it instead. And your statement is also wrong. For a child to be born 2 people have to have the responsibility for it. If you came in pussy, that's an action, that caused a child's, you have to take responsibility for it, it's that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:02 PM
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Never heard about Roosh V, but Transformed Wife is certainly one of the most horrible advice you can get
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:00 PM
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Andrew tate is quite possibly one of the least qualified people to talk about relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:10 AM
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Most people who call themselves relationship experts are just charlatans. Who gave that person that title? What are their credentials? What research did they do to get those exact numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:06 AM
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You know you can go to parties where people drink and not drink while in them right? I've done it multiple times. Not to mention all of the other ways to meet people like in college, the place you work, religious spaces (I'm not personally religious but I do know multiple couples who met in that type of place), conventions, trough friends or family... If you want to use drugs and alcohol that's fine, and if you don't want to use them that's also fine. Me and my boyfriend met, none of us use any …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:53 AM
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Housing and food are human rights, sex isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:48 AM
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Nobody NEEDS marrige in 2022 the point of it is that some people want to do it with some other specific people they really care about
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:42 AM
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Lol. Sex isn’t fair because people do it with other people instead of me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:30 AM
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That's not how normal people work. First of all if a guy im dating is doing fun stuff with friends of whatever gender I wouldn't think he owes me doing the same stuff. And it could simply be that Jake's friend can afford her side of the bill on a trip while Sarah cannot, which means it would make sense to do different things with them. Since I know you want a binary answer. Yes I would, Jake has done nothing wrong in your fan fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:49 PM
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My claim was already backed up by the source I sent. YOU claimed that 2 is a coping number and people would think the lower the better if they can get whatever they want. Do you have evidence for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:38 PM
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You're defending the guy who didn't have a source i wasn't talking to you in the first place and you showed up to cry about it, without a source. And again the person insulting women was the one I was initially responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:02 PM
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You were making claims lol why should I go get a source for your bs. Not to mention that OLD doesn't represent how the real world works
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:00 PM
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Accordingly to who? What you want isn't what everyone else wants. And someone with more experience is objective better to have sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:59 PM
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No. Giving a source would, im still waiting for that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:49 PM
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Funny how the people bitching about stuff never seem to have a source. Maybe it's because most men don't have a hard time. Have you considered that not insulting the entire gender you're attracted to might make it more likely for them to like you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:48 PM
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I'm totally willing to change my mind to fit scientific consensus. It seems like you're projecting a bit, do you feel attacked by the fact other people actually have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:43 PM
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And it refers to 80% of women going for the top 20% of men There's no proof that this happens outside of dating apps, where the gender of people using the app is highly skewed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:39 PM
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The same is true for women. What matters is what is that percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:35 PM
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Do you have any source on that. Or is it just you that aren't having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:22 PM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/306518734_Sexual_History_and_Present_Attractiveness_People_Want_a_Mate_With_a_Bit_of_a_Past_But_Not_Too_Much Men and women actually have similar views on average on how many past partners a potential partner has. Both seem to think the ideal should be 2 with the further away from that number the worse it being
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:19 PM
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Yes. Stop trying to date barely legal people if you're a full grown adult
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:26 PM
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You would be surprised to know that most women are dating men with average salaries, because that's how averages work, most people are in them, and that includes most married people and most people that are dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:05 PM
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He matches my standards and most of the guys you would say are superior don't. I wanted a guy who doesn't drink (not even socially), doesn't smoke, is within a couple years of my own age, isn't conservative, doesn't want to have kids, has interests in common with me (mostly "nerd" stuff), is willing and smart enough to solve the random math puzzles I come up with together, preferably in the same field as me (tech), long hair is definitely a plus, not being vegan is also a plus... He has everythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:23 PM
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If you agree once then you don't have to notify them every single time you do so, that's my point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:59 PM
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No it isn't. It has nothing to do with being a "chad", but it's not like I would expect you to understand how human connected functions. For example, I would be devastated if my boyfriend died or left me. So by your logic he must be a "chad" but he's shorter than average, never goes to the gym, makes almost no money (is a student), has social anxiety, and spends most of his free time playing videogames and board games. Most of the men women have connections with are simply not what men in here c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:58 PM
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Impregnating someone when you're not able or don't want to be responsible for a child is a mistake. And thanks for copy pasting most of your last comment instead of making an actual argument or engaging with what I said whatsoever. And no you can't argue that rape laws shouldn't exist because interacting with people is NOT consenting to having sex with them, as any normal human being knows. "That aside, your arguments fail to explain, how you would be paying for "men's mistakes when a child's ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:53 PM
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Just because you never experienced it doesn't mean other people don't
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:46 PM
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Have you never heard about actually loving people, caring about them, you can't just replace someone you have a connection with that easily
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:33 PM
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Many women around the world are married to men you wouldn't consider alphas and would be devastated by a divorce, again that has nothing to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:26 PM
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If a couple in an open relationship specifically agreed that both parties can fuck other people and not tell their partner. Then both parties can fuck other people and not tell their partner, pretty simple. As long as two or more consenting adults agree on it I don't see why they can't do it. I wouldn't want that type of relationship but that doesn't mean other people shouldn't have it, it's their relationship, they're problem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:54 PM
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Yes when you have sex you should accept the risk of being a father, that's part of sex. If you're not willing to take the risk get a vasectomy or don't have sex There is no double standard from my part there is only one from biology. Women should have the right to decide whether to have an abortion of not because the fetus is invading their body, not the man's body. It's pretty simple and I explicitly said it multiple times, not my problem if you can't read. People should have to pay for their m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:47 PM
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Oh yes try to use that source in an academic paper and see what you get for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:25 AM
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That's not a source. That's the lack of one. Not to mention that I know many guys that don't agree with you. A source, as any educates person should know is a study, a survey, a research, not your friend bob
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:09 AM
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I don't think you know what comment you're responding to because you didn't give me a source for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:40 AM
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Oh my God you literally have the reading comprehension of a 3 year old. Being attracted to someone's actions is just as much being attracted to them as being attracted to what you see. Again what you see is the light that bounces off of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:07 AM
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So being attracted to someone's actions makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:23 AM
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The choices you made are how other people can see the brainstate. The same way the light reflecting of someone's body is how you can see how they look. The actions matter because without them you can't know anything about who someone is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:10 AM
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It's a choice you made, the choices you make are part of who you are that's literally how other people determine who you are as a person. By your actions. You're repeating yourself again
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:02 AM
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You know people can lie about virginity the exact same way they lie about body count right? And saying you care about something because people lie about it makes absolute no sense. Not to mention that men also lie about n count they just lie in the opposite direction as women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:54 AM
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I don't think you understood what I said. The actions are a direct result of the exact brain state you had at that moment. And thus are part of who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:50 AM
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They are all part of WHO YOU ARE that's not a matter of opinion. And if you agree that they are part of who you are then you can no longer make the distinction you were making. If you say that it's ok to be attracted to someone for their looks because that's part of who they are you have to admit that it's also ok to be attracted to someone for their actions because that's part of who they are. And possessions and profession are included in that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:12 AM
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The unconscious mind is also part of who you are, it's also part of your personality. Any action requires a brain state for it and thus is part of who you are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:57 AM
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Most of the things you listed aren't really related to how "chad" the guy is it has much more to do with the women that are doing it and what their relationship is with said guy. I know women who would never make a video dancing in a bar for basically any men, and women who would do it for whoever is their interest at the moment who changes like weekly. Crying about your boyfriend is much more related to how long you've been together than how good he looks. I know women who got devastated by a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:43 AM
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There's a middle ground between being insecure and delusional about your skills where you look confident. Sure brag about your accomplishments, but only if they're actually impressive. And what is impressive depends a lot on the circle you're in and your background. You just need enough social awards to find if something is impressive in that context or not. Because if you brag about stuff people see as trivial you just look like a coocky loser
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:28 AM
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If by their personality you mean the chemical/electrical state of their brain then no, they cannot act separately from that, any action that you take is a direct result from the chemical/electrical pattern in your brain short from involuntary reactions to getting your hand burned or the doctor hitting your knee in the right place. Now it just sounds like you don't know how the nervous system works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:17 AM
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I've seen some, and how often it happens doesn't matter. The thing is nobody criticizes men for wanting to be fathers and not having a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:13 AM
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Salty about what? All I said is if you have a group of people you can just not have relationships with them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:00 AM
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That just doesn't happen, the majority of men worldwide are currently in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:57 PM
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I have addressed the argument many times and you're just repeating yourself. The chemical/electrical pattern in your brain defines what you do. Your actions are a direct result of that and thus your actions are a big part of your personality. Your looks are not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:51 PM
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I never saw a man being shamed for adopting a child. The problem with this post if the treatment of the hypothetical partner and not wanting a child but not a relationship. He does want a relationship just doesn't want to treat them well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:50 PM
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If you have a personality disorder you're not normal. Normal people view others as their actions, not as entities or objects. And you clearly can't understand that. People's personalities is way more about their actions than anything else, thats why someone being an asshole and saying they're nice is just an asshole. Lifestyle and profession are important life choices that can say a lot about people, how they look isn't one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:43 PM
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Nop, in dollars, I study in the US and plan to stay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:27 PM
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I'm not bitter not obsolete, I'm young, have an awesome partner, I'm statistically expected to be making 6 figures when I finish my masters, and I'll never have kids so I won't have to worry about children crying and pooping
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 09:34 PM
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Just make sure to have someone taking care of your kids while you're at the gay orgy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:52 PM
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Whether you like it or not that's not how normal people behave and those are important parts of people's lives and are much more representative of who they are as a person than how they look. You're free to be an asshole but I think this thread has made it very clear youre wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:45 PM
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What profession you choose and are able to get are parts of your personality and what lifestyle you choose and are able to get are also part of your personality. It would make sense youre a sociopath considering you don't seem to understand how human beings work. Being an engineering student is way more part of me than how I look, and so will my job
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:48 PM
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The actions you take are part of your personality. How insane do you have to be to think what people do is completely detached from their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:37 PM
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Most men and women i know aren't baby crazy but the guys in this sub seem very obsessed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:33 PM
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They are part of your personality so yes they are part of your electrical/chemical patterns within you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:24 PM
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And so is someone's profession, and lifestyle. They're a trait, and part of who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:56 PM
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You can also become ugly and be the same entity, that's a horrible argument. One can also like golf and decide they're now bored of it and no longer like golf, and still be the same entity. I disagree. You can lose every single one of those and you would still be the same entity. Once again, the same is true about beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:51 PM
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People who never had a relationship don't usually understand this but it doesn't make sense to be married to someone if you don't love them anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:46 PM
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Oh yeah nice nothing argument
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:40 PM
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I'm not saying they don't complain, im saying the amount of shame is simply not comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:29 PM
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That's not an insult for wanting hot women, that's an insult for living with your parents. That's not being shamed for wanting hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:05 PM
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You seem to not have read the rest of the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:49 PM
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A lot of women do own it, and they're shamed for it which is why more don't. Men aren't as heavily shamed for saying they want a hot girl. The term gold digger exists while there is no similar for men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:44 PM
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/9580/girls-more-likely-than-boys-approve-gay-marriage.aspx https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/81144&ved=2ahUKEwjL-KOK_NT6AhWHLVkFHSC3BzMQFnoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw01H1ztUaOpidgICEwuKxoT
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:42 PM
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I'm fine with socializing, as long as the people aren't drunk, oh drunk people are so fucking annoying, and smell bad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:23 PM
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Someone's profession is also part of who they are. And so can possessions be. The fact that I have a lot of rubiks cubes is part of who I am, the career I plan to enter is part of who I am, why wouldn't someone's money be part of who they are. You're just making an arbitrary distinctions because you dont like what reality implies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:20 PM
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You seem to be confusing celebrated with accepted. Sure if it was shamed people would do it less. But then it wouldn't be a free choice. Young people often choose to party when BOTH choices are accepted because that's what a free choice means. If you're shaming one of them it's no longer a free choice. And as someone in college in a liberal area I can say there's people who party 4 days a week and get drunk, there's people who don't drink at all and would rather spend their free time with a smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:15 PM
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Looks are very much NOT who someone is. First of all looks fade, people change and get older. Who someone IS is their personality. You're just lying to yourself to make you feel better if you think being attracted to someone for their money and for their body are any different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:04 PM
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As someone who grew up in Latin America I can say my mom was the one who made the rules in our house
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:54 PM
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Nobody is brainwashed into wanting to spend their youth getting drunk, dating, and partying, they do that because they want to, and because young people are often stupid, remember the brain isn't fully developed until ~25 And if Bob wants his wife to be brainwashed bob is a piece of shit so I really hope nobody ever dates him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:52 PM
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You can also just not have a family, you know that's not mandatory right? If you hate women that much you can just fuck men instead
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:38 PM
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Facts are not sexism, making shit up about people is. I asked for a source and you didn't have any
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:11 PM
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Oh so assuming stuff about one gender with no proof is totally not sexism, and thanks for not addressing anything in the comment. It makes it clear you have no arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:27 AM
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/81144&ved=2ahUKEwjL-KOK_NT6AhWHLVkFHSC3BzMQFnoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw01H1ztUaOpidgICEwuKxoT https://news.gallup.com/poll/9580/girls-more-likely-than-boys-approve-gay-marriage.aspx If is true. The problem with what you said was that it wasn't true, it came from sexism and not evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:53 AM
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mental juggling. What exactly is my mistake i must pay for? having sex? Impregnating someone when you're not able or willing to take care of it is a mistake And by the way your claim is not even true https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/map/LegallyMandatedTreatment.html None of those cases involve abortion And no it is not reasonable to force people to do abortions because you dont want to pay for your mistakes. And you do not have a right to financial autonomy the same way you have to bodly autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:43 AM
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That is not a negative generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:36 AM
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One doesn't have to cafe about politics to not want to date toxic men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:35 AM
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The men aren't a minority, but young women willing to date them are
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:32 AM
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That's less than half, and that's considering old people, young people are more likely to go blue, and women are also more likely to go blue compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:12 AM
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The thing is the more blue an area is the more people in general and especially young people they have in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:33 PM
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Yes but men tend to mirror their fathers more while women tend to mirror their mothers more
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:22 PM
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Most women don't actually do that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:21 PM
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That's a minority most young woman don't tolerate those guys, which is why you see so many guys online complain women don't want to date them because they're conservative but never the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:20 PM
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Not young women in Arizona they don't, young people are the exact reason they have been blue for a couple elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:36 PM
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Usually Because they're being raised by homophobic men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:32 PM
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The majority of people are in blue states and cities, especially young people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:31 PM
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As someone's who's currently in college you're just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:10 PM
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If you're talking about young women there's more that select against it than the ones who select for it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:02 PM
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That's not a source, I know many couples, and I know what men women are talking about in all femele group chats. When it comes to young educated women there's nobody going after toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:08 PM
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Yes it is relevant and yes I know what OP is talking about. In a country like the US not everyone has the same level of choice about what they wear and the people who have the most choice are often the ones with the knowledge necessary to also not be manipulated
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:07 PM
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Do you have a source for that? Because I don't think women are selecting for toxic masculinity, they may have in the past but young women currently have a pretty different attitude towards it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:21 PM
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Again that's not related. As I said, if that was the case it would never happen in the middle east, yet it happens even more there. In fact women who were raised conservatively are more likely to not know of specific dangers than the women showing their body
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:09 PM
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Quote where I generalized men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:06 PM
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I responded to it many times not really my problem you can't read I am making your same argument, if that doesn't justify deniying women's rights neither it does to men. You don't have the right to not paying for your mistakes, but you do have the right to bodly autonomy. There are literally no other cases where the government force's anyone to get a medical procedure. I don't think the draft should be mandatory or that circumcision should be allowed in infants but those are NOT the government f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:05 PM
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I just did justify it "So what? The argument still applies, "I don't have to pay for your choices so that justifies a forced medical procedure." You didn't, you are doing exactly what you're acusing me to do. And the government doesn't have the right to your body they're not allowed to legally force you to go through a medical procedure, they are however allowed to make you pay money (like your taxes) Your argument assumes that the existence of a child is the man's fault. No it doesn't, 2 people…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:33 AM
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Nothing justifies a forced medical procedure. That's why it doesn't apply If you made a mistake and someone decided to not clean up your mess it's still your mistake, even if someone else had the opportunity to clean it up and decided not to, and you should still be financially responsible for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:57 AM
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In my opinion you should always be upfront, if neither party is they can't complain afterwards if they had different intentions since it's their fault for not communicating that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:47 AM
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An abortion is a medical procedure, people should always have the option to go or not go through a medical procedure without consequences being forced on them by the government, so nobody should be forced to abort. And if you have an unwanted child it is very much by definition BOTH people's mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:19 AM
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I know many men who don't have a problem with women having masculine traits, your friends seems like an asshole. And I believe this happens because men are more likely to have a problem with being perceived as gay (either consciously or subconsciously) than women, your own post shows that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:27 AM
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I view sex as an equal exchange if everyone participating has given informed concent. And part of it being informed requires that none of the parties were lied to or manipulated into such position. So basically if both people wanted casual sex sure go for it, if both people want a relationship also fine, if one person pretends to want a relationship when all they want is casual sex that makes you a bad person. I think the reason some women want to "check" some things before having sex is because…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:21 AM
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You shouldn't date anyone that won't publicly assume they're dating you. Unless you're gay in the middle east there aren't many good reasons and the person that won't admit they're dating someone else is just a bad person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 10:07 PM
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You keep saying I don't need to respond yet you keep responding. And no I'm not playing with words I have been using this definition since the beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:43 PM
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Saying some people have a problem with learning and can't get into community colleges is fine, saying getting into community college is hard is a lie. Theres a difference. If most men can achieve something then it's not that it is hard for men it's that some men have a problem with achieving it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:48 PM
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It wasn't wrong, and you continue to run away from the fact that I already said what would be required to prove that men have a hard time on dating, and the difference between dating and getting a home
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:11 PM
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Sounds like you're projecting a bit there. And nice not responding to the actual point I made
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:48 PM
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A promiscuous man. That simple
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 04:52 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert I never said miserable or mentioned a book, that boon being wrong has nothing to do with my point. You'd fully agree that millennials aren't buying houses because they're burdened by student loan debt and you want to remedy this (I.e it's harder for millennials to by houses/rent). There's no logical reason that you can't take this concept and apply it to men and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:54 PM
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I don't think that has any relation to being used whatsoever. If that was true than women in Islamic countries that hide their entire bodies would rarely ever be used and we know that's very much not true. Being used has nothing to do with how attracted men are to you it has to do with how easy you are to manipulate
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:15 PM
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I would never need one since I don't want kids. And the factors you described are pretty much irrelevant, more important factors would be that the sperm donor doesn't have the same genetic risk factors as you. For example if you're trying to find a sperm donor and you have 2 grandparents that died from heat issues it's important that the family history of the sperm donor doesn't have people who died from that same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:11 PM
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I'm not wrong, and making negative generalizations of one gender is by definition sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:05 PM
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Google scholar indicates more studies with married people being happier. Not specifically women, but it is true for men. Married women are only happier is you look only at the ones without kids Final question one again: what evidence would you need to prove it's harder to date as a man. I already answered that. If less men compared to women were in relationships then it would be harder to date as a man. And again, not one group of men, all men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:04 PM
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I'm not lying to anyone youre just pretending 2 completely different factors are the same. Single women are happier than married women but women in general still want to get married And less men being in relationships would prove that men dating lives are harder but that doesn't really happen unless you cherry pick smaller groups
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:31 AM
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More marital satisfaction isn't the same as wanting that for a relationship, people don't always want what's best
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:33 PM
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Yes I'm pretty sure you have no arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:53 PM
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What says men prefer closer gender gaps, not that they have that, they they prefer that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:52 PM
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You only have a source about what people have, I showed you what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 07:05 PM
1

According to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:38 PM
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Attraction is exactly what people want, what people have is not what they want, and you clearly don't have a source
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:41 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:15 PM
1

Again, what people are happier in and what they want isn't the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:55 PM
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What people have and what people want aren't the same thing, powerful men who actually have what they want date younger women it's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:18 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/amp/ 5 seconds to google
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:05 PM
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The gap and what men want isn't the same thing. Im not moving anything not to mention that after 30 the amount of virgin men drastically drops, and you were initially talking about young people in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:53 PM
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I didn't say I want it to increase, but I do know people with autism and it's definitely not comparable to murder. And women do like to date people their own age, men prefer younger on average so that's just false
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:30 PM
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Nop, they just usually pair up with other people that also have gone around
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:33 PM
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Rules for thee but not for me, they want women to fuck them and only them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:30 PM
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The majority of primate species don't have the exact same behavior in fact they differ a lot, and most of them are quite different in social rules from us
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:29 PM
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Oh so you don't have any, just misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:27 PM
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Only one percent of the world's population has autism, the difference from 30 to 50 is double, so that's just a 1% increase
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:26 PM
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According to that exact link the change is very marginal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:54 AM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:18 AM
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Yeah, the reason women should have that option is because the fetus is essentially invading their body. If that was not the case (like if humans layed eggs) then women should NOT have that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:16 AM
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Not being a parent isn't bodly autonomy, not having what is essentially a parasite if not from the same species inside your body is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:14 AM
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Abortions aren't a way women can get away from the responsibilities of having a child, they're BODLY AUTONOMY.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:12 AM
2

Build or slim seems to be the same pretty much everywhere for men and women. Tall is also seen as a positive but since the average height is lower you don't need to be as tall to get the perks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:38 PM
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You're just making men sound dumb there. I don't think that's how all men choose their partners, but you're just making men look bad. Looking at someone in the present is obviously a better way to acess how they would behave in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:31 PM
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In Brazil where I'm from it's not a significant advantage, id say the beauty standards would be a "tan" color, like most mixed people have
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:29 PM
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That's what I said all the way from the start you're just confirming my point, the only difference being, white is not always the standard, it is in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:24 PM
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No I'm also specifically saying that the type of women who go more to clubs is more likely to care more about appearance than the type of women who don't. And I specifically said in my first comment that only about 20% of men get women's attention because of their looks. The 40-60% is the range of men that look "good enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:15 PM
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Women that don't care about their approach in general are less likely to go to bars. While women that care about looking good and put an effort are more likely to be in one. You have stated that women in bars and club are more vain, but that aligns perfectly with my point that when physical attraction matters women choose a small subset of men Yeah but most of the time, for actual relationships, that's not the main point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:08 PM
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I'm not. When I was single it was because I wanted to, I wasn't looking for a relationship, and I do have standards that the vast majority of men don't fit. But I met someone who's awesome and I'm not single for over 2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:01 PM
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Most women and most women in one specific bar aren't the same thing, that's my point. I've talked to women of every hemisphere and opinions are not that consistent when you have a more variety group
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:55 PM
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Seriously, 99% of women can bring a guy home from a club or bar. That doesn't go against my point, that simply means men are willing to fuck people they wouldn't date Vain? Maybe That would explain a lower percentage of guys having success with getting someone. Not to mention that a lot of people could have shared contact information and you can't know that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:43 PM
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Clubs aren't a good representation of everywhere else, people that go clubbing are probably better looking and more vain than average, for both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 10:25 PM
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Oh yes treating one gender as sub human is a very good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:17 PM
2

So do you have any actual arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 06:41 PM
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I never fully understood why societies deemed certain personality traits, hobbies, chores, and occupations as masculine vs feminine. There is no reason, it's really just sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:30 PM
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The same thing as men. I don't know what delusional world you live on but most women HAVE to work. Not to mention the whole actual relationship where both people provide each other companionship, fun, and emotional support
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:28 PM
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Even women in the same friend group, who tend to be more similar, often disagree on what guys are hot. It happens all the time where one friend points at a guy across the room and goes that one is so hot, and everyone else is like "lol this one noooo you're joking" so even though there are some traits that will make your better looking on average there's always going to be the variance of personal taste
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:37 PM
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Well, I can remember a couple times where they're still together, and one where they're not but none of them hold grudges so in general it's a positive outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:31 PM
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I would say that in my experience going out with groups of friends composed only of women some women point out the guys they find hot, and have a bar for approaching, and a somewhat lower bar for who they'll give attention when approached by. I'd say on average 20% of guys are hot and 40-60% are "good enough". There's also some women who's bar includes knowing someone beforehand so in s club everyone's chances are basically 0%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:26 PM
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Yes I agree. I'm just saying that there is a difference because you asked what the moral difference was, and that's lying. Lying makes a difference moraly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:15 PM
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If I think they'll be a good match I'll do it. I've done it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:13 PM
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With sperm donors it's agreed on both sides, both people know about what's happening and have consented to it. If you lie about being on birth control that's moraly worse BECAUSE you're lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:08 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:59 PM
1

Sure but being older doesn't make it harder to get in relationship not does it affect men's ability to have children so why the bitching?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:56 AM
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No it isn't, there's many other ways to show resources and abilities. Saying that men should pay for the first date is like saying they should do a math test in the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:47 AM
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Funny, my boyfriend didn't pay for the first date or kill any animals and we've been happy together for a couple years now. I'd very much avoid men that kill wolves, they're cute and I like dogs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:12 PM
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They often also don't have any, for example make up, and heels were both created for men and were considered masculine at their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:00 PM
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Having children is hard, and it'll never be easy, and people still choose to have children despite knowing that. And the opportunity to have a relationship isn't gard at all, since again, most men have it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:00 PM
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Yeah, that doesn't mean that men paying for the first date is biological, it's a societal concept, just like the rest of " chivalry"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:20 PM
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They both sell food, and we did evolve with food, that's why
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:09 PM
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Biology played a role on how humans evolve, yes but not on who pays for dates. The very concept of a date is quite modern
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:36 PM
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I literally just said women will go with it because the guy is hot even if they think the guy is not funny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:05 PM
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Usually women would know more about what women like than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:04 PM
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Humans evolved without money or restaurants, men paying for dates is just a social norm not a biologically determined trait
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:02 PM
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What lead to it is irrelevant, what matters is we can change nurture, and thus fix some of the problems
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:59 PM
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Have you read my comment. I said that biological differences existing doesn't mean that's where ALL problems come from. That means, since you seem to have an issue with reading, that problems come BOTH from nature and nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:44 AM
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So you literally have no arguments and you just repeat "interconnect" and "please make my argument for me". Have you ever heard of nature and nurture? Because human behavior is basically always shaped by BOTH of those things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:14 AM
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Just because there are biological difference doesn't mean that all issues in dating must stem from those differences. Men being expected to pay for dates is not biological, women being shut shamed for having sex is not biological, men being expected to be the ones making the first move is not biological, women being expected to do most of the housework is not biological... Men do have higher libidos on average, that doesn't mean men have a greater desire for being in a relationship since sex is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:05 AM
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The point is. OP said women say men are funny just because they're attractive, but they don't, when talking to women friends they will simply say "yeah he's kinda boring but I went out with him because he's hot", same goes for inteligence, women might go out with dumb hot guys, but they don't actually think he's smart, they'll just ignore that if they're young and just want some casual stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:57 AM
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If it's a mediocre joke that doesn't involve touching a stranger and the attractive guy is doing it to a single woman who's open to relationships at the moment then yes he has a better chance at getting a laugh. Doesn't mean the woman in question actually thinks he's funny though, just that she's deciding to go with it because he's hot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:27 AM
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Being corny with people you know is fine, if my bs makes uncle jokes I find it funny. But doing it to strangers is really different, especially if that includes touching their face, there's almost never a good reason to touch a stranger in the face without their consent
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:24 AM
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If a 6 foot muscular guy touches me in a bar I'll yell for security, can't even try kicking that one between the legs. And the got your nose joke is definitely not attractive or funny regardless of who it's coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:11 AM
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Lol literally what evidence do you have for heartbreak being worse if they look better?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:08 AM
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What even is being a "loser" that sounds like a high schooler classifying people. Not to mention that people can be seen as loosers and then change for the better, while people that aren't could change for the worse
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:42 AM
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I am, you just have inconsistent opinions. If something isn't necessary who cares how hard it is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:04 PM
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What replication crisis, there are many surveys who are replicated
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:03 PM
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And he deleted all of his wrong bs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:11 PM
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Do you know anything about research methods because surveys are valid ones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:10 PM
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By what
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:40 PM
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So you have no references, you can't replicate it, you can't quote the study, how to you expect anyone to take it seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:28 PM
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And there are no other studies in existence that serve as evidence for your point? I imagine you should know since researchers usually look at similar papers before written their own. You could also have cited the study and simply not said you worked on it but you chose not to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 07:01 PM
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If you're comparing something to housing you must think people have a right to it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:59 PM
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So you have no sources and no arguments, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:58 PM
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Nice lack of arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:45 PM
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Can I have such data or did you make it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:48 PM
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I have a source, and I'm not complaining aboit anything at all, im not married nor do I have anyone else i have to do chores for
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:47 PM
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I feel fine thanks, and so are my ideologies, that done involve being angry at people for not being attracted to me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:18 PM
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In a survey you can clearly have bias with unsatisfied people responding more often, not to mention that's not nearly enough info
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:57 PM
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Having high standards is not hypocrisy, those people are not criticizing hypocrisy they're just mad people don't find them attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:51 PM
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I don't think that needs to be proved, all humans get tires
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:50 PM
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Thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:11 PM
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Statistics from where? Your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:11 PM
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Go look it up. Most of those single people do desire marriage or a LTR. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ I did look it up and youre simply wrong, 50% of single Americans are not looking for any relationships, and 10% are only looking for casual ones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:10 PM
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I don't care about what you find appealing, my partner thinks I'm awesome, and I value my time enough to not be with people who aren't worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:08 PM
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Men can also be tired
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:07 PM
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You're literally going in circles because you feel entitled to people's love, once you have anything new to talk about i can respond to it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:07 PM
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The point is. I'm looking for something that's rare. And I can also say that I didn't "compromise" on what you call vertical factors. My boyfriend is statistically expected to have a 6 figure salary by the end of his masters in less than a year, and has quite an attractive face as well as hair that gets compliments from strangers. And though I am physically what most men would call attractive I don't wear anything that shows it off or put much effort in my appearance in general
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:56 PM
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Who says they want sex? Who says they aren't the ones causing the dead bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:34 PM
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Being tired is not being lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:33 PM
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The cause could have been a child being born rapidly increasing shit to do. And sometimes people are simply overworked of a long time and they suddenly break down, it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:18 PM
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You don't need help sleeping if you're tired as fuck, you need time to sleep. And unless you're planning to completely ignore the woman "finishing" sex can take a little while
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:14 PM
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Again young people are more resistant to being tired, people in their 40s, even new couples are not partying all night and then having sex in the morning, and that age range is where people complain about the dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:02 PM
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Again, when people are tired and underseept they usually want to go to sleep at night after because they prohave to wake up in less than 7 hours already
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:58 PM
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The standards I have probably only include like 1% of men around my age. I'm in college and I wouldn't date a guy that drinks alcohol (in any amount), smokes (anything at all), is a conservative, is vegan, is a "car fan", is a "sports guy", believes in dumb shit like astrology... So if by high standards you mean standards that the vast majority of men don't meet I do have high standards. I was never "pumped and dumped" and I found a guy that does meet all of my standards, we've been dating for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:56 PM
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Maybe because those men are tok tired
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:32 PM
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I see you ran out of arguments and decided to attack me. But you seem to have forgotten that housing and food a human rights but having a gf isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:32 PM
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Do you have a source beside your baby raging
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:29 PM
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https://www.ucl.ac.uk/epidemiology-health-care/news/2019/nov/women-still-doing-most-housework-despite-earning-more Women do most of the housework even when they earn more
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:28 PM
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People in their early 20s and people having the dead bedroom problem are not the same people. And older people definitely don't do that on average
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:26 PM
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Lol very nice delusion, most people worldwide can't hire a cleaner even with 2 incomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:23 PM
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If you need to gaslight people into liking you then I'm sure you're not very likable
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:33 AM
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When you're tired you usually won't want to have sex and women do most of the housework and child hearing while still working full time in most cases. https://www.mtv.com/news/8iigoe/men-housework-sex#:~:text=According%20to%20new%20research%20from,for%2050%25%20of%20household%20chores. One solution seems to be to fucking share the housework
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:55 AM
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You don't have to need to save money to want to save money And a lot of young college age men are not interested in commited relationships And yeah some people delay kids because of the cost but that's not the only reason nor the main one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:34 AM
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I'm currently a college student dating another college student, it just makes more sense since we have very similar lifestyles. But when it comes to someone who already graduated college and is in the workforce vs someone who hasn't graduated college and also had a job I don't see much of a difference. As long as they're smart and have a job (or are a student) it's totally fine
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:49 AM
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A lot of people do to save money A lot of men are And yes a lot of women don't want to waste their youth with children
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 09:59 PM
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I'm in an urban college and I met lots of friendly people, mostly in interest clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 09:58 PM
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Well if you're on a class then you're pretty much forced to meet them every class. That's how people make friends in school
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:54 PM
1

Yes. I don't think calling people fat is something you should do, but you certainly have the right to, and I don't think "approaching" people is something you should do but you certainly have the right to. I would personally tell them to go find better shit to do and leave me alone without insulting their body
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:46 PM
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I personally think playing board games is a pretty good way to interact with people, but something like a dance class, dog meeting, cooking class or whatever also works. As long as you're meeting the same group of people multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:42 PM
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Women are more at risk specifically when interacting with possible partners women are more likely to be victims of rape, sexual assault, and domestic violence. It doesn't make sense to be scared of someone approaching you on the streets because your chances of workplace death and injury are higher. That would be like avoiding a dog because you're allergic to bees.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:40 PM
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You can't expect people to be nice to you if you're talking to strangers completely unprompted, if you're not in need of help or them or you are providing a service there's absolutely no need to interrupt their life because you find them attractive. Yes you're allowed to do it, but they're also allowed to not be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 07:35 PM
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You need lasting social circles before dating, and for that you need consistent social activities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:59 PM
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People are postponing most of those things because they want to, yes especially children lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:58 PM
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Later isn't the same as harder
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:42 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/want-to-avoid-divorce-wait-to-get-married-but-not-too-long Technically the lowest failure rate for relationships is for people who get married between mid 20s to early 30s with people younger or older than that having larger divorce rates. And considering that people are usually dating for a few years and engaged for one more before getting married then yeah most people who are going to end up in successful marriages are taken at their 20s and 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:23 AM
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Again things happening later and not happening at all are different. People are getting married later, finishing education later, getting jobs later, having kids later, dying later, it makes sense for other things to also happen later
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:15 AM
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There's no evidence for that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 02:31 PM
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Loving me, being nice in general, caring about me, spending time together
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:16 AM
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Because of how they're market. That's why they became a male dominated field in the first place if you look into videogame history they were considered gender neutral family devices, but companies wanted to market it as a toy and had to pick one gender to market them to because at the time toys couldn't be marketed to both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:25 AM
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There are bigots on both sides, hence that being a separate category from conservative. But being against progress/in favor of tradition is something that I also dislike
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:56 PM
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I do. Do you have an issue with reading comprehension?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:46 PM
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I'm totally fine with liberals and leftists I just avoid the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:41 PM
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Deal breakers: smoking, drinking, wants/has children, conservatives, bigots, age gap over 5 years Red flags: using Greek letters to describe men, believing in astrology, too much muscle, bald/shaven head, trying to apper as masculine as possible Green flags: similar interests, long hair, not actively religious, same professional area as me (tech), same stage in life as me (student)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:50 PM
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100+ lol the vast majority of people don't have 100+ partners before marriage and the very few who do are probably in poly or open relationships. You're delusional if you think having this many partners is common
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:24 PM
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Harder for young people, people are still getting relationships just later, like most things in life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 04:28 PM
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And one other major reason is men their age don't want them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 06:09 AM
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Men who have children while being raped and then have to pay child support for those children are
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:01 PM
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That doesn't mean that a minority should make everyone exempt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:27 PM
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I already said that rape victims shouldn't have to pay anything. And accidents are what happens when one takes a risk, if you did something you knew had risks you have to take responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:13 PM
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Yes People should be forced to pay for their mistakes if they can afford it, simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:07 PM
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Most fathers who run away also aren’t ones who can look after children A lot of the fathers who run away definitely have the means, including famous guys
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:44 PM
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LET everyone is the same as not forcing people into parenthood. And I already said I'd have no problem with people having to pay child support to children they gave out to adoption. Not to mention that most people that give kids to adoption just don't have the money either way. While a lot of fathers who do would refuse to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:27 PM
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The vast majority of people who have children were not raped. We can't just let everyone abandon their kids because there is a chance someone will be in a bad situation. The same happens with the enforced of basically every crime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:20 PM
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Sure rape culture exists. That doesn't mean people who weren't raped should be exempt from paying for their own children
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:15 PM
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Yeah, because, once again, people are flawed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:13 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/louisiana-rape-custody-abelseth-barnes-b2136044.html%3famp
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:08 PM
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The state took custody from him, the child is still under 18. And yes you did claim it is a gendered issue affecting men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:04 PM
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Again just because the article is from 2022 doesn't mean the rape was, it's literally from 2005. Not only that was since solved and the rapist no longer has custody of the child or is getting any child support, that also proves that's not a gendered issue. That's simply humans being shitty sometimes, which includes judges
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:55 PM
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Or, none of them pay child support, easy And where is the example?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:42 PM
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You think people think that it is okay for a sexual assault victim to pay child support but not a rape victim? No Not to mention nobody would write an article in 2016 for an issue that no longer exists. Sure then get an example of the issue happening in that year. There isn't one
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:29 PM
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That happened, and then the laws were changed, and it has not happened in years
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:21 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:18 PM
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https://www.justice.gov/ovw/sexual-assault Not gendered
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:13 PM
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That's not the same one i sent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 04:55 AM
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One human raising a child by themselves is going to be on average worse than more than one human, that happens with most tasks, there's no reason rasing a child should be different. But between a single mom and a single dad it probably doesn't make much of a difference, same reason gay and lesbian couples don't have a considerable difference in outcomes when raising children
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:00 PM
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Being pleasant to be around in general, someone funny/fun and charismatic. A guy that's confident on himself but careful to not make others uncomfortable. Physically it also helps to be in fairly good shape, have hair, and obviously be always smelling "fresh". Besides that it depends on what environment you're in/what type of people you're trying to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:57 PM
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/920 The one for civilians is the same if you have the whole thing https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/920 And the rape didn't happen in 2014 it happened before those laws
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:05 PM
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Oh yeah sorry they changed the rules again in 2006, 2011 and 2016 https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:10%20section:920%20edition:prelim)#effectivedate-amendment-note You can read them and see they include men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:34 AM
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That doesn't explain for all the single old women if you do the math
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:10 AM
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I'm a senior in college, and I know many virgin guys my age, don't find anything weird about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:52 AM
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Because if I don't have an emotional connection with the person I'm having sex with id rather just masturbate, it's free and I can do it better than anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:51 AM
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Saying that women with high n count are bad but they aren't bad is exactly what those men do though. If I say that anyone that smokes is disgusting but not people who's name starts with A and my name just happens to start with A then I am just a hypocrite with an excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:47 AM
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And after that they get worse for women. Do you have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:45 AM
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The first story was in 1993, the article was written years later
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:44 AM
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There's no benefit in saying you like strawberry ice cream when you don't, there is a benefit in saying you have lots of friends when you don't. Same goes for sex and sex preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 01:24 AM
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It was ruled in 1993, those were not taking place at the time they were written about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:18 PM
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The 1997 amendment allowed the legal recognition of rape of males, both by other males and by females.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:30 PM
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Why would you assume a random woman saying she likes something is a lier and not an outlier?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:28 PM
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Child support quite literally is just paying money, and you continue to not have found any men that were raped and pay child support
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:24 PM
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Same can be said for pregnancies. Risks of pregnancy are already known. Just don’t have sex isn’t an argument against parental rights Having to pay money for your mistakes and having to give up your body for it are different things Taxes are in no way equitable to child support. Argument lacking You know the current definition right? It still is defined as penetration against will. It doesn’t include making someone penetrate against their will. And he found no evidence of raped men paying child …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:12 PM
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You're just proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:09 PM
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Ok so a hypocrite it is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:01 PM
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You talk about evidence but you clearly don't have any. You admit that niche groups exist but yet you claim anyone in it must be lying when they express their opinions. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:44 PM
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I'm not, virgin is not an insult. I thought that was obvious from someone who literally fucked one person ever. You use that word "triggered" so much I think you might be projecting something. Anyways you didn't answer my question. Are you a virgin (not an insult), or a hypocrite?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:40 PM
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Condoms break. No birth control is foolproof Yeah, life has risks, sex does too, if you agreed to participate in it you agreed to the risks. A risk that is almost non-existent if you go the right way about it, but still a risk. Yes, but she is CONSENTING to parenthood. That’s the main difference. Again, when you consent to sex you consent to the risk of parenthood What? He is legally required to pay child support despite his absence Not if he's never found, if you never gave your full name and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:37 PM
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That wasn't an argument, that was a demonstration of how bad your argument is lol. I literally date a man, I'm not arguing for all women magically becoming lesbians, imagine the lack of text interpretation skills. Also you realize that men that have more sex are also more likely to cheat right? Are you a virgin or a hypocrite?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:31 PM
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If you are a teenager your guardians have to pay. But their responsibilites are until you are 18, which is still teens and still not a good time to have that kind of drain on your income Gee then I guess you should have used a condom. If the mother is keeping the baby the financial drain on her is much bigger. Yes, I was specifically talking about if the father is absent. A woman can abort without the father’s consent (rightfully so) if she doesn’t want the responsibilities of parenthood If the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:17 PM
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Oh you can try to insult me since you don't have any actual arguments, but I have no personal stake in this. Me and my long term partner were both virgins when we started dating and we'll probably both die with the n count of 1. And I do agree that cheating should be the end of the relationship. But that doesn't have negative financial impacts if you simply don't marry people that make way less than you. That's the easiest way to avoid the "dangers" you're so worried about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:11 PM
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No they don't appeal to 1/100 women, youre just delusional, as someone in college, living in an all girls building, I can say they appeal to MOST women in that age range, while the third guy appeals to literally not a single human I know. And men with dad bods have partners all around the world, I've heard women married to guys with dad bods say "men that take too much care of their appearance in the gym look gay" that sentiment is usually from women in their 40s though. Just because you don't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:05 PM
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How long depends on you. Half of the guys in that demographic have relationships. And again women have sex with older men, while its rare for men to have sex with older women. And you simply have to deal with the fact that you can't have everything you want, sorry that's life. I know you want to feel like a victim but you're not one
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:57 PM
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This could all apply to boys as well No it couldn't, of you're a teenager with no income you literally don't have to pay anything, you only have to pay what you can afford to pay by definition The point is mothers always have a choice with parenthood, be it either abortions or adoptions. Men also need to have a choice in cases of unwanted pregnancies. That's not true, a woman can't give the baby up for adoption if the father is present and wants to take the baby, in which case the mother would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:52 PM
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You know what else predicts infidelity? Being a man guess we should all become lesbians. I'd also like to remind you that you in fact don't need to base your entire existence and tastes of minimizing the chances of getting cheated on. There's a lot more important shit to care about and you can always just dump cheaters
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:43 PM
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If you look at the oldest demographic then way more women are single, that simply happens because some men date people in a younger category compared to their own. Meaning the youngest men and the oldest women are left without a partner. Doesn't mean getting a partner is hard, just means waiting a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:37 PM
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The point OP is trying to make is that men don't understand what women find attractive. Because men like that and that are getting the most attention from women finding them attractive While many men think that women like men like that who has paid all the women that show up next to him with money his dad stole
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:27 PM
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You can literally just Google the most common reasons kids are given for adoption. Not enough money, want to give the child a better life that they couldn't provide, teen pregnancy... it basically never happens from people that actually had the ability to raise the child well. Those people, if they kept the child would require government benefits to raise that child. Dads that have no money are already exempt from paying child support since that depends on your income. And nobody is forcing anyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:18 PM
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Better be divorced than in a shit marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:11 PM
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Yeah and my point it that women would like Harry styles even if he wasn't in the extreme. Hence women would still want to date/fuck a guy that looks like him but isn't rich or famous
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:08 PM
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If someone has a child and can't provide for that child taxpayers are footing the bill regardless of adoption laws. Either the money goes to orphanages or to the parents in the form of benefits. It's unavoidable and taxpayers paying for it is bad but children living in poverty is worse so in this case lesser or both evils
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:06 PM
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"That was still be abortion premise" is not an English sentence I'm sorry. And again you have absolutely no argument youre just repeating it's not easy when it is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:02 PM
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Theres more single women then single men in the oldest group. That's just because some men date younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:00 PM
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Those are for humans that already exist and thus already need resources
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:58 PM
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Getting a relationship is easy. Getting the exact relationship you want can be easy, hard, or impossible, it all depends on your standards. And if that's the line you're drawing then women also have a hard time, that's not a male issue at all, pretty divided across the genders
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:43 AM
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As a women I can say loki looks way better than thor, captain America, or hulk. In fact Bruce looks better when not in hulk form
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:14 AM
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Then that's not a male problem, women have to lower their standards all the time too. As a woman it's easy to get sex, but not to get a guy you're attracted to to actually commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:11 AM
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Not because somebody managed to, because MOST people managed to. Just because you have to put some work to graduate from high school doesn't mean it's hard
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:51 AM
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It does actually, if most people can do something then it is, by definition not hard, like getting in community College
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:27 AM
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Dan bilzerian only had women around him because he paid for it, they weren't attracted to him they were doing their job. Do you think women wouldn't fuck a guy that looks like Hairy Styles if he wasn't famous, because if you're do you're deluding yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:24 AM
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It does mean it's easy to get a job, getting a good job is hard, but if you're a legal American citizen getting any job at all is very easy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:20 AM
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You don't need to fuck 50 people to get a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:20 AM
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You can't disagree with reality https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:19 AM
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I do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:20 AM
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Based on the fact that 69% of men are in relationships it can't be that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:19 AM
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True, at least fat people don't (necessarily) smell bad, smokers always do, totally gross
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:56 AM
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Yeah, we traveled together on the last 2 winter breaks, met each other's family and are planning to share an apartment next year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:02 PM
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No, there was no planned date we just met almost every day because we go to the same school
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:55 PM
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Just dating someone who makes more money doesn't make you a hypocrite but refusing to date someone because they make the same as you does
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:31 PM
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I wouldn't be on with having a baby with anyone, AND I don't do hook-ups
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:56 PM
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Not my job
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:59 PM
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I don't think you understand statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:30 PM
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I don't like random guys approaching me. I met my boyfriend in a club in college and I was the first one to invite him to my dorm
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:29 PM
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Thats just how math works. If 69% of men are in relationships at any point in time then the average men has a consistency of being in a relationship 69% of the time, which is not bad at all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:27 PM
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I mean, just saying most people do it is not a very good defense. Most people are religious and it's still bs, most people don't have any savings but you still should, most people are fat but most people don't find that attractive. I wouldn't date hypocrites that probably takes less of my options than not dating people who drink, but I still do it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:16 PM
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Its hypocritical for a fat person to say they'll only date skinny people, or for a smoaker to say they'll only date people who don't smoke. It quite literally is rules for thee but not for me. And though I can't stop you from doing that I can totally thing you're a shit person for it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:09 PM
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Most people don't like hypocrites
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:03 PM
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You understand that 69% of men have a relationship AT THE MOMENT, meaning at say point in time the average men had a 69% chance of being in a relationship. So if you're assuming a relationship lasts about 6 months it would take less than 3 for the average guy to find a new one afterwards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:59 PM
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The fact that it's easy to get casual sex as a woman is completely worthless to most women. Not really an advantage if you don't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:14 PM
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People eat mc Donalds, doesn't mean it's good
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:11 PM
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If you're in one why would you need to get another?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:03 PM
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Nobosy said women are dating men with status and money, most men don't have that and most men are dating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:03 PM
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Why would you assume this the average relationship age gap in the US is 2.3: Yeah thats the average, there's non average people. And it's simple math, the same amount of men and women are in relationships. There's more single men than women in the youngest demographic and there's more single women then men in the oldest most men either what a committed relationship or something casual Hence the word SOME
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:07 AM
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That's because of older men dating those women, not because of having to be in the top 20% bs. And many of those young men are not looking for commited relationships just look
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:19 AM
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Being in a relationship is by definition consistent, they tend to last at least a few months. Now if you want every single person you talk to to wanna fuck you, sorry not happening pick a different delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:17 AM
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Staying at home is boring as fuck, I had a taste during quarantine and ill pass thanks, I also don't want children so there's absolutely no reason for me or my partner to not work, we can live better with 2 incomes than one. I also want a career not just for money but also because I enjoy my field, I'm taking tons of classes to get a Batchelors and a masters then I better be able to build and code some cool shit later
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:15 AM
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No, me an my boyfriend waited a while, it was both of our first times so we wanted to make sure we were fully comfortable with it. And regardless of what the reason is if someone needs time to be comfortable with it that's ok
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:08 AM
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If you ask if they want a pic and they say yes, that's fine, just don't send one if nobody asked for it it's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:06 AM
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Gee if getting a relationship is so hard I wonder how literally 69% of adult men in the US are IN RELATIONSHIPS https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ For comparison, that more than the people who have a Bachelors degree so I think you can give up on the rocket science since you'll need at least a masters for that https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/educational-attainment.html#:~:text=10.9%25%20in%202011.-,Sex,women%20and%2046.9%25%20w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:05 AM
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Because they go on the date and some get lucky and meet someone with a compatible personality and some don't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:12 AM
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Going after people in vulnerable states (lonely men), creating an us vs them narrative, following charismatic leaders as if they're the truth, distancing yourself from the rest of the world... It fits most of the red flags for cult behavior, that's not an opinion it's a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 08:54 PM
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They would have higher standards, and the gender ratio in dating apps wouldn't be completely skewed making things easier for the men there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:46 PM
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Yeah, I literally said that in my first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:43 PM
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I don't think you understand, for a personality bar there is no initial failing or passing, it requires time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:20 PM
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A fetus never being born doesn't affect society negatively. A child being born into poverty because their father refuses to support them does. The reason I don't think that should be allowed is simple, if BOTH parents aren't paying for the child then all taxpayers probably are. And asking the whole country to pay for your mistake is simply not reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:47 PM
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Faling in love with people after getting to know them is simply what happens when personality is your top priority internally. That's not a moving bar that's finding someone physically attractive and then discovering that personality wise they're simply not a good match for you. My bar for looks includes like 50% of all guys my age while my bar for personality is probably only about 1% and for me to know if someone is in that 1% we have to be friends for a bit (like how I was friends with my bf …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:43 PM
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He concludes without even reading the initial comment. Im sure there's a reason it's gone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:07 AM
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Sure that's true, still doesn't mean op is right
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:36 PM
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Being good looking is a requirement, but it isn't sufficient that's the point. Most men don't think all good looking women are the exact same, one might be a crazy cristals lady while the other is intelligent
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:33 PM
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I'm sorry but that doesn't mean the same thing you previously said maybe try reading past the title
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:31 PM
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Both sound like pretty bad options, I'd rather be single
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:16 PM
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Do you have enough evidence that this is how men in general behave? Because most men I know care about a lot more than just looks. I'm not making anything personal just saying your bias is showing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:14 PM
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Completely dependends on his attitude about it. I see sex as something intimate and I would only like to be with someone else that also sees it as so. If he used to take part in casual sex and no longer does so that's totally fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:11 PM
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Just because you dont have standards doesn't mean other guys can't have them. That says a lot more about you than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:09 PM
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One, in the past 5 years or ever (I was not legal 5 yars ago). He's currently my boyfriend, we met in college and have been dating for over 2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 07:09 AM
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This reeks of incel. Oh yes prostitution is such an advantage. Oh yes women can have better orgasms and casual sex more easily (completely ignores they most likely will not have an orgasm on said casual sex). More on completely ignoring comes... women do most of the unpaid work worldwide, women are taken less seriously on the workplace, women are more likely to live in poverty...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:54 AM
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A lot of people are in comited relationships, a lot of people aren't looking for any type of sex/relationship, people in college have way better ways to meet people than tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:48 PM
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The lack of equity has nothing to do with visceral attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:50 PM
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How people go about their sexuality and what rules they follow changes greatly depending on culture that points to a societal explanation and not a biological one. If how people dressed, who pays the bill, and who approaches were biological they wouldn't change in different cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:11 PM
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Sexuality isn't that different between men and women, gender roles are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:07 AM
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Abolish gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:40 PM
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The fact that you don't interact with women is kinda showing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:17 PM
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The age range isn't. But I agree that there should be less of a class barrier by making university free for those who can't afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:45 AM
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The divorce rates have actually fallen since then
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:44 AM
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Neither is it a crime. People not wanting to be with you anymore and people attacking you are very different issues
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:35 AM
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What about it? If you're gonna cry about money it's very easy, marry someone with a similar income
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:33 AM
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I know
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:31 AM
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Divorcing people isn’t imoral on the face of it, cheating is, manipulating your partner is, but divorce sometimes is the best option for both people. What if after marriage someone changes their mind on wanting kids or not? What's your solution, having someone who doesn't want a child raise one anyone's or having someone give up on their dream to be a father/mother? Sometimes divorce just happens and it's nobody's fault. If my partner wanted children and ended the relationship because I wont giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:29 AM
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Yeah but some Americans say they are in favor of abortion and then vote for people who aren't, so that's sot solvable by changing the political system that's just dumb people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:13 AM
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Where the actual fuck did you take 90k a month per child?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:06 AM
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Are you answering to a bunch of my comments with no argument just because you dont have shit to do or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:05 AM
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Do you have an actual argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:05 AM
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Marrige is voluntary, rape isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:04 AM
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Sure thats true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:03 AM
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We can take down the 1% and not act like men are victims at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:50 PM
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It's like telling domestic abuse victims welp you should've picked a man who didn't start abusing you after you got married Nop, there's a big difference between things you can easily know beforehand and things you can't Theres also a big difference between literally being victim of a crime and having someone not want to be in a relationship with you anymore. One is not supposed to be a normal part of life and the other is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:47 PM
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You know thats easier to do with 2 incomes right. Me and my partner are both graduating soon with a computer engineering and computer science degrees, we surely can retire earlier together than individually. 2 people 1 rent
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:44 PM
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That's good and all, but passing more legislation won't help if it's shit legislation, like the anti abortion stuff the Republicans want to pass
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:40 PM
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Your chance of going from 25 to 75 with the same woman in the US is over 60% if you were born in 1930, 30% if born in 1960, and 8% if born in 1990. Source? However, nothing can save you if you are a weak douchebag... masculinity is a must. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:38 PM
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Oh, so all you got is sexism, ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:25 PM
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I completely agree, but men here seem to think divorce just magically disappears your money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:24 PM
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Women are on average more educated but men still earn more on average. Having a bachelor in engineering is more valuable than a masters in art history
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:22 PM
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No, the ones I cited only look at the women's level of education, but I assume that both partners having at least a Batchelor degree is optimal. Not to mention that some Batchelors can be more valuable than a lot of masters when it comes to the workforce, having just a bachelor in engineering is usually better than having a masters in humanities areas. And men are more likely to be in engineering while women are more likely to be in humanities
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:21 PM
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On the case if health it was actually shown that it is a causation relationship https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:18 PM
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Again, it's only a 50% if you choose poorly. And you'll never have to give any alimony if you only marry people who can financially support themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:16 PM
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No, all it proves is that you're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:15 PM
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So do you have any data ir just bitching and whinging?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:15 PM
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Yeah but nonreciprocally violent are the minority, mayve read the link I already cited
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:10 PM
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If you're talking about companionship then being single definitely won't help. And if you dont marry someone you're more likely to break up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:09 PM
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Not automatically, only if you choose poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:39 PM
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Yeah and getting married as a man is a smart decision since married men are on average happier, healthier, and earn more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:38 PM
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Yeah, in that case divorce is fine if you married someone with similar income and don't have kids there's nothing to lose in divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:37 PM
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No they don't https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health Unhealthy men get married more often but married men are still healthier because marriage is good for men's health
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:35 PM
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A parliament system won't solve anything if the politician are the same dumbfucks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:28 PM
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You understand people can start hating each other after getting married right. And the solution to some conflicts is to get divorced
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:24 PM
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Risk of what? If you marry someone with a similar income you lose nothing in divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:23 PM
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It is, which is why the entire point of the post is to make divorce less likely by making doog choices
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:07 PM
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Oh, so you can help ban abortions and have even more men paying child custody, go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:04 PM
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I know people who's parents are divorced are more likely to get divorced but I wouldn't say it's more statistically significant than themselves being divorced. Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:03 PM
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So you don't have any actual arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:01 PM
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Good marriages promote health and longevity, but stressful and shattered marriages have the opposite effect, especially for men. Why? The explanations fall into three categories: biological, behavioral, and psychological. The behavioral factors are no less important. Unmarried, divorced, and widowed men don't eat as well as married men. Loneliness, depression, and social isolation also contribute to the excess mortality associated with bereavement, divorce, or never having married. A Harvard stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:01 PM
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Thats not my claim, my claim is that they perform better than men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:57 PM
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I agree, still better to divorce than be there like 2 cry babies hating each other
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:57 PM
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Why would you outlaw people who hate each other separating. And again, if you think the 41% is too high maybe try to get educated women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:56 PM
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It is a bad choice if you're marrying an uneducated woman, one under 25 or over 32, or one that was divorced before
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:55 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:54 PM
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It is avoided by not having children, if you dont have children you dont care about child custody bias
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:54 PM
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Again, they do, according the the researchers who wrote the article. If you wanna fight Harvard go ahead
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:45 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3061965/ Being tall makes you more likely to have all sorts of back problems https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25051127/ And is also related to some heart issues
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:44 PM
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It stops you from sharing anything you had beforehand. To not pay alimony you simply marry a person who can support themselves, that easy, if they can't support themselves don't marry them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:30 PM
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Better than a miserable marriage making boomer jokes like "my wife won't let me do anything how funny I'm so oppressed" and "my husband is so useless he won't even wash his clothes how funny im so depressed wine haha"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:28 PM
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You know that taller and healthier aren't the same thing at all right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:27 PM
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Married men are happier, healthier, and earn more but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:25 PM
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They did draw a causative conclusion, again maybe try reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:24 PM
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The commenters post is irrelevant as married men perform better than men who are not married in general and all he's doing is trying to cope by finding excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:23 PM
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So again, all issues easily avoided by not having children and having a pre nup. Not to mention that men can also choose to not marry women that make way less than they do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:18 PM
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Sexual harassment is a crime, divorcing people isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:14 PM
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Which is you choose correctly are still very few
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:14 PM
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Oh so that's what you resort to when you have no arguments, where is all the counter evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:12 PM
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Yes, in a scientific study it means that the study concluded that marrige is good for health, and they do have the reasons right after on the part you didn't read
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:11 PM
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Source? What bad boys? Thats just incel spew
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:10 PM
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I already responded to what the comment said you accept it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:02 PM
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Easy, don't marry women who can't support themselves, you only have to pay alimony if the person can prove they are dependent on your income. And child support is simply the cost of having a fucking child, don't want it don't have children
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:01 PM
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So, no arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:59 PM
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Both partners being educated is the best chance you'll get
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:59 PM
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Women don't marry unhealthy men. Some have argued that self-selection would skew the results if healthy men are more likely to marry than men with health problems. But research shows the reverse is true: unhealthy men actually marry earlier, are less likely to divorce, and are more likely to remarry following divorce or bereavement than healthy men. Maybe if you had actually read the fucking study
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:57 PM
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Numerous studies conducted over the past 150 years suggest that marriage is good for health. More recently, scientists have begun to understand why married men enjoy better health READ the actual fucking link
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:54 PM
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Again married men are happier, healthier, and earn more. Besides that getting married can save a couple a lot of money and paperwork
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:41 PM
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It hasn't by anyone I asked in this post. And if it has just show me where and ill read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:40 PM
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Not older, the ideal age is between 25 and 32 after that it gets worse. But yeah the RP is pretty dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:39 PM
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Some have argued that self-selection would skew the results if healthy men are more likely to marry than men with health problems. But research shows the reverse is true: unhealthy men actually marry earlier, are less likely to divorce, and are more likely to remarry following divorce or bereavement than healthy men. Go fight Harvard
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:36 PM
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The article is supporting my affirmative claim, if you're not capable of reading an article that's not my problem. And they did find causation, it's written there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:32 PM
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Pre nups almost never fail if you dont have children. And married men are on average happier, healthier, and earn more. (Already linked studies multiple times in this thread)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:31 PM
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Married men are MORE LIKELY TO be happy, healthy, and earn more than single men And so are singles. Do you understand the word MORE? Those things can't both be true, and spoiler: the first one is the one that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:30 PM
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So do you have a source or are you making shit up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:27 PM
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Mahbe try reading, I don't know if you can do that but the link is there, the blue thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:25 PM
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Divorce isn't death. You're just being dramatic and acting like a victim. Oh but blah blah child support, don't have children Blah blah my stuff, never heard of a pre nup?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:24 PM
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Once again you dont understand statistics. Married men are MORE LIKELY TO be happy, healthy, and earn more than single men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:22 PM
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My point is that married men do better than men in general not specifically men that are in long term relationships but not married
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:21 PM
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Many people live without them and are perfectly happy, you don't need a car, you want one because it makes your life better. And you can get in accidents that are other people's fault, you can drive perfectly and die in a car accident. Being or not involved in an accident is not under your control. Also I'm 99% sure the risk of being in a car accident is much lower than experiencing divorce if you're married. In general yes. If you're smart about your choices no, that's the whole point of the po…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:20 PM
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If you actually read the Harvard article you would know that you're wrong. Marrige DOES make men healthier
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:15 PM
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Married men being healthier, happier, and earning more. Thats localized to entire countries
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:10 PM
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If by localized you mean wntire countries
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:59 PM
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They do if you reduce the risks by picking correctly, thats the whole point. They don't for the 50/50 risks, but you can drástica change those
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:50 PM
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And he continues to deny reality while having absolutely no sources. The stats do represent reality regardless of how much you want to cope
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:49 PM
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They're using the legal definition of single, so yes it does include men in long term relationships that aren't married
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:47 PM
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You do not need marriage to be happy No you don't, but it makes you more likely to be happy. The same is true for money, entertainment, and good food. As I said, how is marriage any different than a long-term relationship? It makes the life of 2 people in a long term relationship way easier. Sharing health insurance, paying less taxes, being able to make medical decisions or even just visit your partner if they're severely ill, being able to set up life insurance for one or both partners, if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:41 PM
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Because the point is that you can make it way smaller by not being dumb when picking a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:35 PM
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Nope, they are NOT more likely to. Literally just read the links that I have already put in this thread, youre objectively wrong There isn't just one way stats work. It's a tool, not a set in stone fact machine. It is a tool, one you don't seem to understand very well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:35 PM
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Again, you can make the chances of divorce way smaller by picking correctly https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/02/03/2003772512 https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/regional-economist/april-2002/for-love-or-money-why-married-men-make-more And yes there are advantages for men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:33 PM
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https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/regional-economist/april-2002/for-love-or-money-why-married-men-make-more https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2022/02/03/2003772512 You have an argument now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:31 PM
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Once again not a single source. Do you understand what they word less means? If I say it rains less in huston than in london am I saying that Huston never has rain? I do like some men, you know, ones that aren't sexist like you. And you're yet to prove I've told a single lie, because again, not a single source
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:30 PM
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Yep you shouldn't marry someone who's already divorced usually
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:28 PM
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So you don't have an actual source. Just bs. I never said single men can't be those things, just that married men are more literally to. Do you understand how statistics work?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:27 PM
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Even if 100% of the divorces amongst couples where the wife is educated were initiated by the wife the probably is still lower than the one for high school only or less than high school women. So that's not misleading at all. And 0 divorce isn't near guarantee its just guarantee. You can never get 0 chance of falling in basically anything. But if keeping a marriage for like is literally more likely than getting into community College that's definitely easy enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:26 PM
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Educated women usually marry educated men. Marrying an educated women doesn't mean you have to earn less. People usually marry in their own class
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:21 PM
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Nope Yep Nope And once again the sexist guy is wrong Nope Gee don't you get tired of being wrong all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:19 PM
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Most men are also married but they don't get abused nearly as much, thats a shit excuse. And the women you dated don't represent all women. And he continues to not have any sources for the family court claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:16 PM
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You can't control other drivers either, many people die or get hurt in car accidents while they were driving perfectly and someone else was dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:11 PM
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The benefit is NOT getting divorced. Do you have an issue with English? And married men earn more than single men, are healthier on average, and are happier on average
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:10 PM
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Do you understand statistics? Degrees don't disappear, and the ideal age refers to WHEN YOU GOT MARRIED so you don't have to freeze anything to rip the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:03 PM
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Women are more likely to be abused by their husbands And women still do most of the housework and child rearing Maybe if men want to keep the kids after divorce they should spend more time taking care of said kids instead of being angry they have to pay to provide for their own children they don't want to raise So unless you have an actual source saying those men who didn't get custody actually wanted custody you're just bsing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:02 PM
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That has an 50/50 chance to end up in divorce. Not if you pick correctly, did you not read the post at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:01 PM
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Well, that's why they get fucked, because they're dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:57 PM
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Life is based on chances. You go on cars even knowing they might kill you. And married men are literally proven to be happier and healthier. Not to mention you dont have to pay child support if you dont have children
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:56 PM
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Get a better goal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:10 PM
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I already said it's dumb, and flash news, you can just ask for people on their opinion, you don't have to decide everything, nor does it take any fucking effort to make decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:31 PM
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No it doesn't, you can simply say you want to go on a date and ask where the person would like to meet. If you decide literally everything it is reasonable (though not mandatory) for you to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:23 PM
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"the person to ask should pay for the date". That's not unreasonable if the person asking also picked the place and time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:19 PM
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The thing is, it doesn't, if the problem was the other person being insecure it was going to be an issue either way
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:13 PM
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Well there's a reason they're gone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:12 PM
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Only saw one, and it was a man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:12 PM
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That's not an issue with being "beta" or comforting, that's an issue with someone needing a therapist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:53 PM
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If you know you'll be attacked for it you know it's dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:36 PM
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When someone says "suffer from X" referring to a mental condition it means having the mental condition, and women have it more if you look at the actual data
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:34 PM
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Then they know it's dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:33 PM
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Maybe try reading the thread again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:31 PM
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The only person in this thread explicitly saying both is a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:30 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen a single person doing both. They seem incompatible because they're usually done by different people. If you can link someone that did both of them sure ill think that person is dumb, but I think you're arguing against a non existent position here. And the only non sexist conclusion of course is that men should NOT be expected to pay for both people in the first date and the wage gap is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:06 PM
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So you don't have a source, cool, thanks for helping my point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:00 PM
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Nobody gets "bored" because their partner is comforting them. Just putting the word beta on things doesn't make women stop being attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:59 PM
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Source? https://healthydebate.ca/2017/08/topic/male-suicide/ https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190313-why-more-men-kill-themselves-than-women It seems like the issue with men is 100% due to toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:47 PM
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They get less help because they don't ask for help. Exactly because of people like the men in this sub that do around saying that being "manly" is very important for men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:35 PM
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So you don't have any, cool. Whenever you have an actual argument try again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:30 PM
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Death isn't the worse thing that can happen, everyone is gonna die anyways. There's a reason assisted suicide is getting more support, for some people death is less suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:29 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:26 PM
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Well that depends a lot on what definition you're using for the word suffer, because once you're dead you can't suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:25 PM
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Source? There were societies where crying in public was seen as masculine and a show of strength. https://aeon.co/essays/whatever-happened-to-the-noble-art-of-the-manly-weep
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:42 AM
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This "on the market" is considering people only looking for casual relationships, which shouldn't really be considered. but the realization that your partner is failing in his domestic duties doesn't come until after a relationship has been established Not really. A lot of the time people get to know others trough friends, school, or work before going on a date, and we can usually know what men are more likely to be the ones that expect their future wives to do the housework. Most people also ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:35 AM
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Most of these "differences" are deriving from social issues and not really 'being different'(?). (Apart from the obvious biological ones) correct me if I'm wrong Yeah. Men and women aren't actually that different if people don't force our hands
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:43 AM
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women serve less time on rape charges That's not inherent to men and women, that's a societal issue that can and should be changed (haven't checked if the claim is correct but ill believe it for the sake of this comment) men suffer more from depression That's not actually true https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db303.htm Women are more likely to have depression, though men are more likely to commit suicide, but this is once again not an inherent difference but one that we should fight …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:29 AM
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The in group differences between men and women are much bigger than the differences between them though. Really unless you're talking about sports or reproduction it just doesn't matter. The same way black people and white people are different, but most of the time it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:20 AM
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That's true, but a lot of those differences are unnecessary and harmful. Biological men will always be stronger and biological women will always be the ones that can get pregnant. But when listing the differences, you even wrote a couple of them differently you didn't say "men cry less" you said "it's less SOCIALLY acceptable for men to cry". But that doesn't have to be that way, the same goes for any other gender based social expectations, they're useless and harm people. No men should be misog…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:11 AM
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I did hear of statistical probability, in fact I've made multiple stochastic process simulations. Do you have an actual statistical analysis I can look at?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:30 AM
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Just because numbers are shifting doesn't mean they'll do that endlessly. You sound exactly like conservatives saying everyone will become gay and we won't be able to reproduce anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:19 AM
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Well, there is a fairly objective way to find out the answer, reproduce the study in many cultures, if they all agree it's biological, if not it's social. Though I think that's biological since some of the men dying in a tribe won't hinder their ability to make future generations while some of the women dying will. So a pro female bias COULD have been genetically selected for regarding what groups of humans were able to get trough the hard times
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:14 AM
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You know that the people alive today will get older right? And that a lot of the time people's behaviors change with age
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:00 AM
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Yeah, that's literally in the graph of the link I sent. But, I was referring to the whole population not arbitrary age ranges
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:53 PM
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If we're talking women as a whole Yeah that's what im talking about. Most are single for a reason Yeah, and a lot of the times the reasons are temporary like healing from a past relationship or focusing on work/study, being too young/immature. There are also reasons such as mental or physical issues that make them pretty much undatable. For example, even with a stable, high quality partner, relationships are giant timesinks. If spending time with someone feels like a timesink you probably should…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:51 PM
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I never said women are perfectly happy all by themselves, well, some are, but most women would rather have a partner is they can have someone that makes them happy. Being independent has nothing to do with being done with men, but having equal relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:18 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:38 PM
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The majority of the population are still in relationships you want it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:37 PM
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In the 30something age range men also cheat more. That's most milenials, most 80s and 90s kids
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:45 PM
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Can you differentiate a study from an article? Did you go to college? You still haven't addressed (probably bc you can't) why birth control is an okay variable to include but literally everything else isn't aside from something something most women use birth control now so you gotta include it something. Are you really that slow. Let's go in baby steps, im talking about women in the US. Anything that represents that group should be included. The only thing I was "excluding" are other countries, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:07 PM
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So you don't have any actual arguments, cool
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:03 PM
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You can call it mental gymnastics or whatever you want, the result the study won't change because of it. I'm not even going to address the dumb mention of famosu people that are completely unrelated to the ficking study. And those feminized faces are what people call feminine men, flash news, they're still men. Straight women are more attracted to feminine male faces, not femele faces. That's like someone saying men are more attractive to women with lower fat percentages and you go like, well, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:36 PM
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It is a feminized male face, whether you think it looks feminine enough or not is irrelevant. And those feminized faces were prefered over the original/normal ones and the masculinized faces. A more feminine face and a woman isn't the same thing. How about, maybe birth control was excluded bc they wanted their results to reflect the most genuine preferences possible? Seems to be more of a reach for you to jump to the possibility that they excluded birth control out of bad faith. Sure it doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:22 PM
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Every picture from every study or every cited celebrity (esp George Clooney) has a very masculine face to me That has nothing to do with the study, that was cited by the person writing the article on the study and doesn't affect the results of the study whatsoever. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337993602_The_eye_wants_what_the_heart_wants_Female_face_preferences_are_related_to_partner_personality_preferences Here's one with pictures. What other excuses are you gonna make up now? So yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:09 PM
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https://www.bustle.com/p/millennial-women-are-cheating-more-than-millennial-men-a-new-survey-finds-7873841 I'm talking about all men and women not only young ones https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america Here's a graph with all demographics. Sure if you cherry pick you can get whatever results you want. And as I said most people (men and women of all ages) still don't cheat, but men cheat more than women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:53 PM
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So you've resorted to moving goalposts. No I'm not, I am, and have always been talking about most women in first world/healthy countries preferring men with feminine faces In any case, show me any one of your studies that depict a preferred face that isn't moderately masculine, because I can't find one I've already sent an article citing the study but here is the study itself since you aparently can't click links https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32757588/ Also, hasn't the birth-control affecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:49 PM
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The study you just liked excluded all women who take hormonal birth control, also known as most women. And it is algo known that birth control could affect what women are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:27 PM
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So unless you have a source for those imaginary issues of yours thats what they are, imaginary issues. There is no evidence women would lie about who they find more attractive in an ANONYMOUS study, that they know is anonymous And the majority of women do date, in fact women are more likely to be looking only for commited relationships than men are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:20 PM
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They prefer masculine looking men, just not hypermasculine brute gigachads like incels say Just, not true https://www.chicagobooth.edu/review/why-stereotypically-feminine-faces-attractive-men I don't have an agenda, I'm just showing people the actual data and people are refusing to believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:14 PM
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In our society there are still groups following those rules though. And those groups are overepresented in power also known as religious people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:08 PM
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They grow up to prefer something more mature or masc looking According to actually research, in first world countries, they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:06 PM
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From what I gather there was also a diagram of a face shown on the spectrum between very feminine to very masculine, and the preference tilted masculine but not as masculine as men would assume women would want, even after ovulation. Not on the one I sent, in that one the faces were literally altered to look more feminine and women preferred those. The study I am looking for is the one that showed masculinity actually being an acquired taste among those most exposed to media and modern society. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:05 PM
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Oh so now you're accusing me of random shit because you dont have an argument, cool
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:57 PM
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The issue is, your anecdotes are just wrong. A lot of women really like feminine looking guys, why do you think boy bands such as BTS have so many fans?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:56 PM
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Health indicatives aren't nearly as important to people in healthy/first world countries, that's the point. When women don't have to worry about who's healthy they prefer feminine faces, they only like the masculine ones when health is scarse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:49 PM
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The thing is, it wasn't required, it was all fine and dandy as long as you don't get pregnant, marry after fucking, or get rid of the fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:47 PM
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And the goalposts keep moving to infinity and beyond. The measure is not femele sexual liberty. It is sexual freedom, and that does not require femele economic and political freedom. The terms were clearly stated, sex before marriage, not staying a virgin. Women can fuck people that aren't their husbands without voting and owning land
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:45 PM
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Marriage still is an important institution, and most people are still monogamous cheating still frowned upon. Again the measure here is were people having pre marital sex? Yes. It was common
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:38 PM
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Maybe you should read your own post again. What are the pre marital sex liberation measures again? Not women's rights. It's not staying a virgin, having sex before marriage, and that was happening
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:13 PM
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Voting isn't the measure, pre marital sex is https://ageofrevolutions.com/2021/03/15/a-sexual-revolution-in-the-eighteenth-century/ And it was happening Also nice out of context cut On other occasions, if one or both of them were not in fact ready to marry, couples often collaborated, negotiated or argued about efforts to interrupt reproduction. Young men could buy ‘remedies’ designed to ‘restore’ their partners’ menstrual cycles, de facto purgings that caused young women to be so ill that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:11 PM
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You're monogamous if you only have sexual/romantic relationships with one person at a time. And most people in today's society do that, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:04 PM
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When the Western Roman empire fell, civilization started back at stage one. A lot of technological knowledge was lost and the dark ages represent the first three stages that Unwin describes. Sure, but there was no lost knowledge in the French revolution, only improvements What differs his the society’s attitude towards it. Is it condoned? Is it celebrated? Is it wanted? It was during the revolution, that happened more than 3 generations ago
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:02 PM
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The majority of people are still monogamous, saying monogamy is dying is like saying straight people are dying. Just because not everyone does it it doesn't mean it's dying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:55 PM
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Did you read the word monogamous? You know women prefer not to be cheated on right? And though men cheat more than women on average it's still not the majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:45 PM
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Yeah, and it's been way more than 3 generations from the sexual liberation, and living in France is way better now than in the 1700s. Engineering, science, quality of life, all better. It's almost like it didn't collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:38 PM
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No. Average and below average men still have sex and relationships if you consider the average to be better looking than 50% of men and worse looking than 50% of men. That happens because the vast majority of men have sex and relationships. You understand that most straigh men not having monogamous relationships would also mean that most straight women don't right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:36 PM
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Anthropology is a real science, there are peer reviewed studies done on it, that's just not one of them. That's simply the opinion of this guy, nothing more. And if you're talking about science and engineering that's usually inversely correlated with religious control of society, hence the dark ages And considering the article you linked - I don’t know if you heard but there was this thing called french revolution about two generations after that story in the article… Yeah, which sounds a lot li…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:32 PM
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Though have you noticed the people against sexual freedom and the people denying climate change are the same ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:18 PM
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"Flourishing" isn't a scientific term you have no strict definition for it in your post, this guy could make it fucking anything he wants. More sexual freedom is related to the decrease of deism, a transition to the rational phase you already agreed with. Isn't that flourishing? Sure if you define flourishing as people having more kids it will be related to deism, but not to actual quality of life or scientific development. The second argument is these societies progressively change their behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:11 PM
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Idk im not a mod
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:59 PM
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Lol that was removed fast
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:59 PM
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The correlation only exists because all societies had a downfall, simple as that. That's like saying drinking water leads to people dying. To show that this matters in any way you need societies that did not have a downfall not having sexual freedom. But that doesn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:51 PM
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So the fading of deism is necessary for the rationalistic time. And a big part of that fading is sexual freadom. Sounds like sexual freedom is positively correlated with rational thinking and not the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:26 PM
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Nop, that's just conservative panic. Books are nor peer review studies, you could fina a book about basically anything saying basically anything. Not to mention that he's really pretending that deism and rational thinking go hand on hand, they really don't. Faith is inherently not rational thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:15 PM
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It could as well be that the ones who consider themselves attractive prefer the masculine men because they're more concerned with following societal norms. Women in general might be open to a more diverse phenotype due to the social zeitgeist but when it comes time to salivate over an exceptionally hot guy it's always the tall muscular broad shouldered squared jawed type. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:14 PM
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Women who prefer feminine looking men may do so because there are very few attractivr masculine single men left, especially in college Nop, that had nothing to do with it, the study had masculine and feminine men left, it had pictures of men ecited to look more feminine and ones edited to look more masculine and women preferes the more feminine ones
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:09 PM
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I've also read the opposite for some reason There are no studies with the opposite results done in first world/healthy countries fairly recently. But in third world countries with health issues women still prefer masculine faces. I don't know why but some possible reasons are that in those places physical strength is more in demand than intelligence and more masculine faces might signal more of one than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:07 PM
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I personally don't like makeup (in men or women). But I think a skinny and shy guy with long pretty hair is really nice. I also don't really like excessive body hair. My boyfriend has a naturally clean chest which I think looks better than a hairy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:57 AM
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That can be a reason women would present in a more androgynous way but not a reason they would prefer androgynous looking men since being catcalled and shut shamed has nothing to do with your preferences. https://www.smh.com.au/national/women-more-attracted-to-men-with-feminine-faces-scientists-20050214-gdkoxa.html Women in first world/healthy countries have been shown to be more attracted to feminine faces. Regardless of clothing style. And as someone in college right now, there's way more wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:39 AM
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I think it is, and so do most people my age I know (I'm in college) And women in first world/healthy countries on average like more feminine faces in men https://www.chicagobooth.edu/review/why-stereotypically-feminine-faces-attractive-men https://www.smh.com.au/national/women-more-attracted-to-men-with-feminine-faces-scientists-20050214-gdkoxa.html
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:31 AM
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At whatever age they stop being pretty, that's not the same for all women. It depends a lot on genetics, diet and exercise, and money to have expensive skincare and procedures. Also there's a large difference between not having pretty privilege and being invisible, the vast majority of the population is in the space in-between.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:49 AM
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It means something different for each person So basically it means "doing whatever the fuck they want" in a sexual context
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:52 AM
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The number is actually 70% of guys who have had sex in the last year (only 49% percent among those aged 18-29). Source? And I never said it's good. It's not good or bad, it's just a thing. And things changing is normal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:49 PM
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I can only speak for myself when I say that you are overexaggerating how easy it is. Anything that more than 80% of people can do IS EASY like by definition. You're just being dramatic And no nobody is justified in blaming other people for not being able to get laid, acting entitles to sex, or being sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:06 PM
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Yeah, that's fine. Things change, it happens, crying about it won't help. If something isn't a human right and some people can't get it then it really is their problem. Besides youre completely ignoring how easy it still is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:41 PM
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The numbers were lowers because basically everything is happening later on average. People are getting married later, getting their first jobs later, moving out later, finishing education later, having kids later, retiring later, dying later. Human lifespans are getting bigger so is our young time and it's normal for some young people to not have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:24 PM
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Why? Some people are bad at shit, we can't do everything for everyone, and the number of virgins goes down drastically with age, being negligible by 40. There's nothing wrong with people having sex later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:11 PM
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All sorts of levels. Have you never heard of girls liking "Golden retriever" guys? Or the class clowns? But I would say that in general most people look for partners with a similar level of maturity/similar personality. So a woman who has a job and lives by herself probably won't date an unemployed guy living with his mom, while a young girl in college is probably looking for young guys that want to have some fun
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:58 PM
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Only dumb or toxic ones (same for men)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:53 PM
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Oh yes continue to ignore all of the other 3 sources and the actual conclusions of this kne
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:48 PM
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The claim is very relevant for anyone that actually read it. You can keep coping and avoiding the 4 studies that prove you wrong. When you have an actual source ill read it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:04 PM
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The figures in this study suggests that women and men both put an equal importance on attractiveness and physical build. Not relatively to other traits "Our relative importance analysis shows greater male priority for attractiveness and physical build, compared to females, relative to all other traits." Another pay-walled study that has no relevant information about the methodology to their claim even if it's an irrelevant claim. Oh so you continue to pretend you can't read an abstract with all …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:44 PM
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https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0250151 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2018-48200-001 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24588091/ Are you going to continue the coping or do you need more studies proving you wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:21 PM
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I know exactly what it states, are you dumb or pretending to be? It's just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:06 PM
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Oh yeah a statistic that had literally nothing to do with the issue, how helpful. I don't want you to do my work, youre the one wanting me to do yours because you know there is no source for it, because incels made it up. I have formed conclusions, they're just not the same as yours
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:55 PM
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The relevant text is the text in the abstract, that's literally the point of abstracts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:51 PM
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The real world reinforces this. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:50 PM
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Only in dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:40 PM
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But the RP theory is more "choose submission" which doesn't make them really submissive in the first place, or slaves. I don't share that POV but as long as there's no abuse I couldn't care less for people who do. Giving orders to a partner is inherently wrong, regardless of whether they agreed with that or not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:29 PM
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https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/121/2/673/1884033?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false That not true. Though women to care about physical attraction women put more weight into other factors such as inteligence while men put more weight into looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:18 PM
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If there's someone crazy enough to want to be a slave is owning them as a slave still wrong? Yes. The same goes for wanting anyone of any gender to submit to you. This is about the 20/80 theory Which is not real despite reddit incels thinking it is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:14 PM
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I'm a woman, and I'd definitely prefer the red bull guy than the smelly one. My boyfriend was pretty nervous the first time we kissed and were together for a while now, even talked about getting married. So really unless you have a source you can just leave this conversation since you're not adding anything besides the fact that you don't like the results of the study
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:11 PM
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I didn't make the study, if you're angry at reality that's kinda your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:44 PM
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That's a mith https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31348926/ More testosterone doesn't actually make men more attractive. But more cortisol does Edit: for some reason can't reply u/mintylove The mating associations there isn't about women being more attracted to me with those traits. "Mating measures included behavioral measures such as number of sexual partners, number of marital spouses, and age at first sexual intercourse." If men with more testosterone are simply more likely so seak sexual relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:36 PM
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I don't go to the gym, and don't do any sports, but when it comes to looks I look exactly the same as when I did practice sports in most days, I'm skinny. I always had more "options" than I wanted including people making new accounts when I blocked them. But after I started dating though I still got people hitting on me, it's only online since most times I go out I'm with him and it's pretty clear were together.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:28 PM
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Still easier to get laid than getting into community College, that literally means it's easy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:13 PM
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I didn't, I was only asking someone else to provide evidence for the shit they made up and then you showed up to do nothing aparently
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:55 AM
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Oh so you're just providing reasons for something you disagree with, sure, when you can commit to a point come try again
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:46 AM
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Nice baseless accusation. You're defending the guy that did, if you're not then why are you even in this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:38 AM
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We fucking do, in fact I sent it to you, it seems you're not capable of interpreting data. Also wtf is with this community college metric. Like community college is known for taking everyone that can afford it. Yeah, getting in community College is easy. Everyone can agree with that. Im using it as a reference of something being easy https://www.communitycollegereview.com/acceptance-rate-stats/national-data And getting laid as a man is still easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:33 AM
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Also that 82% is men who want a relationship or are in one... Why would that number matter at all? Do you really have that much of an issue with doing math. Let me do it in baby steps: 31% of men are single Out of those 31% 61% are looking for a relationship That means the total amount of men looking for a relationship is 19% And that's less than the percentage of people who are rejected in community College
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:00 AM
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You know what that 82% you calculated is? Well if you round correctly 81%. That's the amount of men who "got their way" who are either in a relationship or don't want one at all. And you know what this number is bigger than? The acceptance rate of an average community College
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:51 AM
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Oh yes "if I cherry pick its true"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:42 AM
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You're the one claiming attractive men are less likely to commit. The burden of proof lies with you. To claim that any group of people is more likely to do X than another group you need proof
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:41 AM
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Again, im not only taking about single men im talking about all men, and the majority of them are EITHER IN A RELATIONSHIP OR NOT LOOKING FOR ONE. So the single men looking for relationships are a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:39 AM
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Just because something sounds obvious doesn't mean it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:37 AM
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So you don't have a source or an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:36 AM
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Was it not around 7% before 2008? Idk, but if only 7% of the population can't get laid it sounds like their fault The average acceptance rate of community colleges is 79%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:31 AM
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That's 61% OF LESS THAN HALF.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:30 AM
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Then he would simply not go on the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:29 AM
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Dating is a studied phenomenon. And I agree that people that drink more are more likely to go to bars, but I never agreed that most people in a bar are open to being approached
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:28 AM
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Yeah. Where's your source for open to approaches?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:55 AM
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The number has tripled in 20 years Only if you exclude any man over 30. People having sex later isn't a problem, a lot of other life events are happening later too like people's first jobs, marriage, finishing education, retirement, death. If having sex before 30 gets harder than getting into a community College we can talk about it. But as is, it's literally easy by definition
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:43 AM
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Yeah. I mean average/typical in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:39 AM
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I would also argue that a lot of men that want a relationship aren't in one. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ A minority of guys. That's not an argument, it's literally a fact. I'm in the tech sector and the vast majority or males are single and find difficulties getting a date. So am I, that's how I met my boyfriend, and most of the guys I know having issues only have issues because they don't fucking talk to anyone, the ones that do are doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:37 AM
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I know average looking guys who do and who don't. All of the ones who don't either don't want it or just don't go out and talk to people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:31 AM
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Yeah, and a lot of the ones not in one don't want one. In literally any age range the majority of men either has a relationship or doesn't want one. Meaning that it's really not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:29 AM
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So you don't have an actual source, youre just making it up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:27 AM
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I know not all men are bad, but bad luck happens, and depending on the area she lives there might be more of the bad ones than the good ones, you can't know the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:27 AM
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That's not a source. A lot of men commit because they want to, not because it's the only way to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:24 AM
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The only studies actually linked in there don't talk about how men act related to how attractive they are. It does say that women with more attractive partners are more likely to diet. So that's probably the reason they're not as happy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:22 AM
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But being better looking does making them less likely to commit Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:17 AM
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Most men are currently in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:14 AM
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That's like blaming the kid bullied in middle school not hitting back for a kid being bullied in high school. Other people's reactions doesn't justify your behavior. Treating people as lesser makes you a horrible person regardless of the reaction people have to it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:13 AM
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Being better looking doesn't make men more likely to be assholes, those are unrelated issues
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:10 AM
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Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:08 AM
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That's my point too, that most people don't go to bars often
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:30 AM
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A good indicator of the difficulty of things is the proportion of people who can do it. Usually something most people can do is considered easy, while something most people can't do is considered hard. For example getting into Harvard is hard, but getting into your average community College is easy. The vast majority of men have sex, so really it can't be that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 11:57 PM
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Well, he is also openly racist. And I do agree that it's disturbing that women voted for him. But dumb people do dumb things, and the US got a lot of those
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:45 PM
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The majority of men are in relationships. The majority of men aren't virgins, just because something is on the rise doesn't mean it equates to most people https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/ Getting laid as a man is easier than getting in community College by the simple percentage of people who do it. So no, id probably be fine, just like my bf (called by many…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:43 PM
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But people who drink more are more likely to be in the bar more often. My point is, you can't claim most people go to bars often without any data
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:39 PM
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Who said im ignoring it? All im saying is that ON AVERAGE woman voted better than men. And there were conversation about why that happened, mainly they're conservative religious woman who were indoctrinated into bs the same way as a lot of the white men living in the same area as them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:27 PM
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Again, im not judging people for being bad at it, im judging them for blaming women/chads for it. And tge vast majority of men can get laid. Anything that most humans can accomplish can't be that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:25 PM
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Oh is that your issue? No that wasn't supposed to be anything. I was just saying that not doing something because you're shit and not doing something because the government banned you from it aver very different things and blaming other people (regardless of whom) for you being shit at it is dumb. Incels aren't worse than mostra people because they can't get sex, they're worse than most people because they blame others for their problems and are misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:16 PM
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Again, if only women voted, trump would have lost, if only men voted he would have won
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:13 PM
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It's just a fact that it is white people's fault, men's fault, and yes also religious people's fault. You rolling your eyes won't change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:03 PM
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My point is women crying that no men will commit to them and blaming men for it are also dumb. Both things can be dumb at the same time. And blaming other people for your inability to get sex is dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:01 PM
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Sure, but the gender split is still pretty significant https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37922587
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:40 PM
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Doesn't matter if you don't want casual sex, you could get it if you want to. Doesn't matter of you dont want to sit down and talk about feelings you can do it if you want to. If one is irrelevant the other also is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:39 PM
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People fail at a lot of things all the time, that doesn't mean you can blame an entire gender for your failings. And my point was women can easily get sex but not relationships and most women don't want sex from men that aren't willing to date them, the same way men dont want to talk about someone's feeling when they're not willing to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:18 PM
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They can both be true, if only women voted trump would have lost, therefore men elected trump, and if only non white people voted trump would have lost therefore white people elected trump
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:16 PM
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And men dont have to be good at anything to get someone of the opposite sex to chat and talk about their feelings. Getting sex from strangers is irrelevant for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:12 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:55 PM
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Who said men only want to feel desired by one women? First of all men also get validation from posts on Instagram and tik tok, try googling "male thirst traps" why do they post those, because they want to be sexualy desired by women. Men being fixated on body count doesn't mean they only want one woman to desire them, it means they want women to desire only them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:42 PM
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That if the political leaning of the court was pro choice (aka if trump wasn't elected) this specific decision wouldn't have happened
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:16 PM
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Without the judges trump appointed it wouldn't have happened. Thinking the supreme court has no political leaning is incredibly naive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:10 PM
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Thinking that's the wrong case and being against abortion is not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:03 PM
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Not only women are still doing slightly better than men in your source. But what really matters is how they vote https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37922587 And men are the ones who elected trump. Which lead to the court decision
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:24 PM
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It is accurate. And if women were to choose that wouldn't have happened https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37922587 The court decision was a result of trump winning the election, and he only did because of men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:22 PM
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/abortion-trends-gender.aspx You're just wrong, most pro lifers are man. Most women are pro choice while men are at a pretty even split. And thought most voters are women, most people who vote against abortion rights are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:09 PM
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I am in my early 20s, and so are most of the women I know. Never saw much people drooling over college athletes, but id say there's a lot of people into the ugly popular guys, being charismatic goes a long way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:54 PM
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It’s just that it’s the minority who think like that The same is true about women. Most women know that in general women prefer accomplished men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:43 PM
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Have you not seen men in this sub claiming that women care more about looks than men and getting angered when told the opposite? There's dumb people on both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:39 PM
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There's a big difference between people crying because they're shit at videogames and thus can't enjoy playing and then blaming everyone who's good at the games and the game developers for them being bad, and the government making it ilegal to play videogames.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:34 PM
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Most of the women answering are talking about themselves and not saying status doesn't matter. And there are even comments saying some women are attracted to status
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:31 PM
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Videogames aren't a need, but a lot of people would be quite upset if they were banned, the same goes for eating meat, owning cars, drinking alcohol, watching movies... Just because people are capable of being happy without something doesn't mean we should accept the government taking our rights to do it. think it also exposes a lot of hypocrisy of women who say that they don't participate in casual sex and that only a super small portion of women have sex outside of committed relationships. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:24 PM
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Where are the women denying this? Can you link some of that? Not that saying "status isn't all that matters" "I personally don't mind it" and "you don't have to be rich ti get a partner" aren't denying anything
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:20 PM
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Sure. But people who drink more are at the bar more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:55 PM
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When did I ever say everyone is like me? Maybe work on your text interpretation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:33 PM
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A lot of people in bars don't go bars often. Why are you mad? There was a question and I answered it. You can go project your issues on someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:32 PM
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Do you know what benevolent sexism is? Hint: it doesn't include wanting women to cook and clean, trying to manipulate them, or being obsessed with N count. It's what most people would call chivalry
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:30 PM
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Even though misogyny is shown to attract women (in real life and in studies) Could you link such studies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:30 AM
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The older people I know never had to approach strangers at a bar, maybe that's a you problem. I'll probably not have to experience dating later on though since we plan to get married after masters and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:41 AM
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I'm dating one at the moment. Met him in a college interest club, so he never "approached" me or asked for my contact
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:37 AM
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Source? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db374.htm Only a very small percentage of people had engaged in heavy drinking (more than 14 drinks a week for men or more than 7 for women) And a third of adults don't drink at all. So unless you have a source for that you're probably wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:13 AM
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That's only true if there's the same number of bar goers and non bar goers. You can't know that, it probably depends on the bar itself and even the day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:24 AM
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When you see someone at a bar you can't know if they're there often. Just saying that there will be people at the bar who are single but don't want to be approached and won't give you their number, and people who are dating and not with their partner at the moment but not willing to cheat. I know because I've been both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:14 AM
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Most people are monogamous, and if you're talking about a man that isn't committed he's simply not a dating option. The same way a woman that goes out just for the free food isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:09 AM
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I don't go often to bars/clubs but if any guy approached me at one the probability of getting my number is 0 regardless of how attractive or how much time he was in the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:03 AM
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How come there's no link for the other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:50 PM
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Thats only one study, same as the one I sent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:47 PM
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I posted a speed dating experiment, you said it's not repeatable, you posted a speed dating experiment and no other sources to say it's repeatable. It sounds like you're just picking whatever side makes you feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:39 PM
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They show the same results. And yours doesn't have replication either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:34 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/016230959290021U https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1388281/ Here's your repetibility
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:19 PM
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If you're claiming a phenomenon exists you have the burden of proof
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:09 PM
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What does that have to do with social media attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:56 PM
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What's the source for all that data though? Where's the link
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:49 PM
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And you continue to ignore sources that don't agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:48 PM
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The one I sent shows women putting more weight in inteligence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:44 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:43 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:43 PM
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So did I, and even the ones you sent show men care more about appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:42 PM
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So you don't have an actual argument
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:41 PM
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That only happens in dating apps, not real life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:17 PM
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Women only care about looks first in dating apps, as shown by the study
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:17 PM
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39% includes all of the internet not only dating sites
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:16 PM
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https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/121/2/673/1884033?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false Oh you only read things if they're in a link, here you go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:06 PM
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https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/121/2/673/1884033?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false Literally shows women put more weight in inteligence than attractiveness https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5519305/ That only works at zero acquaintance, gee I wonder why people base attraction on looks when that's literally all they have https://www.kaggle.com/jph84562/the-ugly-truth-of-people-decisions-in-speed-dating And in here men care more about attractiveness than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:05 PM
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You started with with a lie. Just quoting everything you can find mindlessly isn't an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:01 PM
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Measuring the number of partners instead of sexual frequency, the top 20% most promiscuous men account for about 60% of male sexual partnerings, and the trend is, again, quite stable over time." That happens for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:45 PM
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So you don't have any more arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:23 PM
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My question about the relevance is that even if more men are seeking sex all that does is confirm that women are getting more ego attention. No it doesn't. That's like saying if more women are seaking a man to chat with them men are getting more of an ego boost You need a source to look on any one of your social media pages and look at how many followers your male and female friends have? About the same
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:22 PM
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That has nothing to do with being a chore or not. Men are simply more literally to want just sex than women. but how many examples are there of men who offer nothing and expect the world from a perfect woman? A fair amount. Look at the subs that post dating profiles
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:21 PM
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"In reality, according to the GSS, the top 20% of the most sexually active never-married young men have about 50-60% of the sex. It’s about the same for women, and these shares are basically stable over time. Measuring the number of partners instead of sexual frequency, the top 20% most promiscuous men account for about 60% of male sexual partnerings, and the trend is, again, quite stable over time." Did you not read the part where it says IT'S THE SAME FOR WOMEN
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:19 PM
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Yeah the thing is men also have a lot of ego boost due to followers on Instagram and tik tok. If more men are following women, which is a fact, then she clearly has more access. Source Even if a lot of men are looking for sex, what’s the relevance? https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ More single men are looking for casual relationships while more single women are looking for serious ones
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:15 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ Theres more single men looking for ONLY casual relationships while there's more single women looking for commited relationships. Those men looking for only casual relationships aren't dating options for women since they don't want to date
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:59 PM
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Because a lot of those men only want sex. A man who only wants sex isn't a dating option because he doesn't actually want to date
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:57 PM
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Because a lot of them are looking just for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:56 PM
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