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I mean, what he did was pretty sickening, but I felt like I was the only one who noticed the double standard on this vs Dunham and the way the press has been handling it. Good to see intellectual consistency from somewhere, thanks for pointing this out.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 03:31 AM
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Send this someone's way next time "muh context" is used as an excuse for this evil woman.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 09:10 PM
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I think most who get caught up in these pill debates tend to be more bitter in general, but I'm again admittedly not too involved or invested. Just my current perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:59 PM
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I think as someone who admittedly rarely reads this sub, there seems to be a lot of conflation between bitterness and standards from both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:56 PM
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Statistically speaking, I see where you're coming from and generally agree. To me it's more for weighing odds than defining an absolute, though. I think applying more scrutiny makes sense, but it's not definitive. I'm really big on judging your partner based on the way they treat you (including lies in the case of suspected infidelity) and little else. If you feel as though you can't trust them, absolutely sever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:35 AM
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It's weird. There's an argument for both sides here, but what it comes down to is this- can promiscuity be used as an approximation for a person's behavior? Yes, as humans tend to develop comfort zones/habitual behaviors. Does it always accurately reflect in every person, however? As long as one is honest with assessing potential risks, I believe one should judge a person's relationship potential based on how they treat their partner, and little else. A woman with a higher partner count may be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:38 PM
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It's textbook projection from a sad narcissist. "I would always want it and I am male, therefore all men always want it."
/r/MensRights27/09/14 09:46 PM
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That's Different!™
/r/MensRights23/09/14 02:24 PM
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Well that's revolting. She needs to go to prison for a long, long time.
/r/MensRights14/09/14 03:08 PM
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Just end with /s in the future- it lets people know you're being sarcastic. Too many post that sort of stuff as if it's a legitimate argument so I can understand the uncertainty.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 12:46 AM
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That's a shame. Hopefully they refine that technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 07:54 AM
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I agree that rape is the fault of rapists. I think limiting your exposure to rapists will help reduce risk of rape. This will not guarantee saftey and this can be twisted to ridiculous lengths as thinly veiled victim blaming, yes. It could also be the advice that kept one safe in a potentiality dangerous situation. You never know about the accidents you don't have and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 07:51 AM
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Hm. Maybe mixing straws marketed towards the alcohol distributors (typically bars and restaurants?) I'm sort of drawing a creative blank otherwise, but I like the concept regardless to the execution, and there exist gender neutral options within recreational establishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 07:42 AM
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Possibly it's a cultural or generational thing; but there is an opinion that women and girls "cry rape" for attention, because they have buyers remorse over agreeing to have sex or were unclear in their desires or intentions. If that's someone's instinctual reaction towards a person claiming rape, that's sorta despicable. Additionally, I am also against immediately judging the alleged rapist as guilty for similar reasons; a presumption of innocence must be maintained for all parties involved in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 07:21 AM
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I don't disagree that you shouldn't bring it up after they're victimized, but that's because hindsight is 20/20 and you're just being a jackass at that point. There is nothing wrong with taking precautionary measures and reducing risk, and teaching people about the existence of potential abusers is important in working towards mitigating said risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 07:09 AM
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Hm. I'm sorry to hear that's your experience with it. In mine, it's generally treated as an activity for subhuman filth, and accusations of rape convey significant gravity. Obviously this doesn't invalidate yours, so please don't take it that way- I'm only commenting here to gain perspective due to a morbid curiosity, really. I'm unsure of the length of rohypnol's half-life, but I'm in favor of this product under the assumption that it works effectively as I have not read any reviews to the cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 04:24 AM
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Raping is hugely condemned in most westernized civilisations and already illegal. Empowering a person with a tool to protect themselves is not fostering any expectation- it is merely presenting people with an option to utilize should they desire. Only the very lowest of scumbags would critique a person who was roofied- actual roofie rapists would absolutely prefer this nail polish did not come into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 01:18 AM
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No, but if she had that nail polish available she'd increase her chances of noticing said drugs before it was too late. No amount of feel good platitudes will stop criminals from committing crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 12:14 AM
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What part of drinking heavily naturally leads to rape? The part where you surround yourself with strangers of unknown intent and reduce your ability to recognise potential threats due to the cognitive functions impared by drinking heavily What part of having gold on you naturally leads to being mugged? The part about walking around with tons of symbols of wealth plastered all over your body in an area filled with struggling and desperate people of unknown intent Neither of those are the fault of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 12:11 AM
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I agree. I'd also like to see the methodology behind her statistics.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 10:10 PM
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girls can use sex toys, boys cant such feminist, so equal
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:17 PM
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The new york times didn't post an emotionally made strawman from some angry idiot throwing a tantrum. Why is this news?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:07 PM
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Addressed here
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:44 AM
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Yes, and saying a 7.3% overlap based on content submitters and comments within the submissions totaling ~3% of all subscribers is a huge overlap is completely disingenious I think your emphasis is on the wrong part. 7.3% is not large. The methodology is also flawed in assuming crossover between anyone who has had a single post or even low total (red pill posts/total account posts) as meaning much. The 3% bit was mostly for effect, admittedly. I hadn't considered that possible interpretation; I a…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:41 AM
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Why are you unwilling to consider reasons to that that don't implicate feminism as the culprit? I am willing to consider all reasons which is how I personally came to the conclusion that attitudes steming from academic feminism are partially responsible for the demonization of male sexuality. I agree in that it is not the only factor worth considering- I do occasionally visit the red pill for the aforementioned reasons in our comment chain, but I do not agree with most lots of what I have seen. …
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:04 PM
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Subscribing to hateful ideologues. Sorry if I was unclear.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:26 PM
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Yeah, the thing where you don't recognize a group who's philosophy is "women are overgrown spoiled children who are incapable of love and can't understand dating a man for something other than his money or feeding her ego (well, western women, we're not misogynists because women are okay if they're properly oppressed)" as a hate group is probably why you get generalized with them. Yes, McCarthyism is a powerful tool that often stops intellectual thought. Fair point, inadvertently. The mrm seeks …
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:12 PM
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Your explanation? You mean your guess at how you'd like to present the methodology as flawed? TIL explaining why saying 7.3% of 3% of a sub's population isn't really indicitive of much overlap is guessing Do you honestly think just a weird coincidence? You don't think MRA and TRP have a significantly higher overlap than TRP and most other subs? Probably in that the mrm attempts to address male issues including male sexuality, and trp claims to be a philosophy about empowering men through embraci…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:40 PM
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Was talking to the person above you (who you replied to) and all the other people doing mental gymnastics to dispute the obvious. Read my other post, hamster-backwards. Typically people post replies to the person they are talking to, not another user. Complaining a post in reply to me was not for me is absurd. In your edit, all you did was re-assert that the numbers present an overlap while ignoring my explanation as to why the methodology used is flawed. Had to look up "hamster" as used by you.…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 07:03 PM
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Yes, and saying a 7.3% overlap based on content submitters and comments within the submissions totaling ~3% of all subscribers is a huge overlap is completely disingenious. I never claimed that anyone besides the admins would have access to that information. I am saying that one cannot make the claim that there is significant overlap between the two subs because the methodology is flawed. Not sure why you think otherwise.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:34 PM
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"If you go to r/aww and r/whiterights there is a surprising amount of anti-minority bigotry." I mean yeah that's technically true with the inclusion of whiterights but it's pretty disingenuous to conflate the two. This is no different.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:14 PM
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Also it needs to filter out low contribution from members. I have one post in trp, this does not mean I'm a red pill type now. That whole sample is garbage.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 06:08 PM
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It's always encouraging to see intellectually honest feminists standing up to disingenuous feminist myth.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:36 PM
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Great point disagreement is literally oppression and fuck open communication /s
/r/MensRights30/05/14 12:16 AM
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I see. I personally always framed that as establishing a connection. It's useful to test the waters for compatibility, if you invite them to do things you actually enjoy and enjoy the time you've spent with them. If they don't enjoy the same activities you do, you can chalk it up to incompatibility and move on or introduce them to a different hobby/location/event. Honestly, the best way in my experience is to just spend a day with someone doing whatever comes to mind. It's not lying, as it shoul…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 06:00 AM
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You didn't even read your own "refutation." All it states is that the case happened at a different time in a different state than the link I provided, and mostly links to itself and mentions tumblr for sources It was just a random google search though, so it's possible that it was forged. Other such incidents include http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-12-22/features/9612220045_1_pay-child-support-child-support-behalf Which is in your "refutation" as a link I might add And http://en.m.wikipe…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:38 PM
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Right when male statutory rape victims are ordered to pay child support to their rapist its because of privilige, what a great point! http://www.democraticunderground.com/11149730 Maybe you should shut your mouth and learn the issues before you speak in the future, either for or against, because you're making anyone who might support your point look idiotic by proxy.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 08:44 PM
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Well seems your set in your opinion just as I am set in mine. I'm not set into a pre-determined conclusion if this is your concern. Evidence and logic will always shape my conclusions, which will always remain malleable to such. I believe gender is most certainly a construct. Paraphrasing Butler, gender is a performance. You learn how to "do" your gender. Your gender is policed by others. The performance of gender existed before you did. This performance is controlled by social "norms", which ch…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:20 PM
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What did you read? Gender trouble You imply a waste of time, then what did you read? Gender trouble And why was it a waste of time. Why did you not agree with what you read? A waste of time because her (excruciatingly drawn out) point was "exceptions exist." Of course exceptions exist- I took that into account when you asserted femininity was demeaning to men as if the inverse wasn't also true. That's why I told you "compliment" a sample of women on masculine things. Please go tell a large sampl…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 03:54 PM
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Wow that was a waste of time. Gender/sex don't real! My turn now. Read some Norah Vincent, and watch this documentary http://youtu.be/tiJVJ5QRRUE?t=1s
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:16 PM
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So what? You insult a woman by calling her a man. Tell 100 women that they've got a very masculine jawline or tough, broad shoulders and see how they react.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 01:28 AM
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If that's not your argument then we are in agreement- articles using this tragedy in order to vilify the mhrm are in extremely poor taste.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:00 AM
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Okay first of all, y'all need to stop attributing his actions to some sort of mental illness. There's no "shoot up a bunch of innocent people" disease, contrary to popular belief. He was just a fucking terrible person, as hard as it can be to comprehend. You're right mentally sound people are the ones shooting up innocent people not mentally ill ones great point valuable contribution well said etc etc Second: That's such a fucking stupid argument. If she believes that his motives were misogynist…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 06:05 PM
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Here's a fact, I have one post in trp. I suspect I'm not alone here. Your data is worthless if the methodology doesn't account for people with small contribution and remove them accordingly.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 04:18 PM
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You're a sick fuck. Using a legitimate tragedy based on mental illness to create an alt and spin your anti-mhrm bullshit? People died mate. I'm worried about your mental health if the first thing that comes to mind is political gain after a homicidal maniac unleashes on the public.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 04:11 PM
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interact directly with specific women you like--which inevitably involves lying. I still don't see it. I'm not trying to harass you but I just don't follow the logic here. Maybe we are operating under different definitions? From my understanding, you seem to imply that directly and honestly expressing to women how you feel is dishonest.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 10:51 PM
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I see you start to understand what I'm talking about. How would you call it when you have something in mind but don't mention it, and invent different explanations for your actions? I called it searching for a relationship, personally. I am mature enough to understand sexual compatibility is extremely important in a healthy relationship, and held that standard to women I would date. I was never dishonest about my expectations, and I understand that if someone does not meet said expectations to s…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 10:02 PM
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"Hi. I think you're cute. Wanna hang out?" Rarely mentioned sex specifically, but it's implied by an expression of attraction.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 09:39 PM
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Thanks. I am pretty unfamiliar with it.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 09:26 PM
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Approaching with honest intention isn't lying though. You're correct in saying I had to do the majority of approaching, but that doesn't mean I had to compromise my integrity.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 09:13 PM
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/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:58 PM
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I disagree. I have a high partner count (not that this should be viewed as an achievement- it isn't) and I didn't hook up with any of them through lies. I didn't even get to a large number entirely voluntarily- I was sorting out the liars and game players quickly by holding them to a high standard (that I also applied to myself.) Eventually I found a decent, honest girl who treats me with dignity and respect- it's not exactly a super long time but we've been happily together for close to 3 years…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:55 PM
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Please explain workplace mortality rates and jail sentencing disparity
/r/MensRights20/05/14 09:29 PM
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Disgraceful behavior. I guess it's not surprising the a bunch of privileged bigots have nothing better to do than attempt to censor a man who very helpfully addresses male issues.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 12:13 AM
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"As a strong conservative, I feel as though the state should allow the church back into schools, to teach about the god I think doesn't exist. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to smoke a fat blunt. The youth today have no morals!"
/r/MensRights16/04/14 04:22 AM
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Pretty sure this is just a bot that links youtube comments
/r/MensRights08/04/14 09:43 PM
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What a horrible article. I wonder why the author thinks some legitimate disadvantages (emphasis on some, as 90% of that list is just a plea towards a lack of accountability) magically negate female advantages into non-existence? Is it really a strange concept to understand each sex has inherent advantages and disadvantages?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 03:53 PM
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I'm not going to downvote as you are entitled to your opinion and it contributes towards the discussion, but I do disagree. Generally speaking, anything invasive done to a person who is asleep and cannot consent should be viewed as reprehensible.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 11:14 PM
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It's always refreshing to see some sanity mixed into cases like this one.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:12 PM
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Add on "and the teacher tries to have the student murder their spouse" for extra hilarity and accuracy
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:10 PM
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I find it highly amusing that rainn just had a bit about denouncing rape culture hysteria right around the same time as this incident. Their argument was literally "Gathering to discuss men's issues promotes rape culture" and that's specifically the attitude denounced by the most well funded rape advocacy group in the US. http://time.com/30545/its-time-to-end-rape-culture-hysteria/ if anyone wants the source to what I'm talking about.
/r/MensRights24/03/14 04:13 PM
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Invert white men in that statment. If it "suddenly" becomes sexist and racist, it was in the first place.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 05:06 PM
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Downvotes are bigotry now shitlord, unless the downvoted post talks about SRS negatively! Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to againstmensrights, where we discuss enlightened topics such as how members of society shouldn't have rights because of the sex they were born with or the gender they identify with, you bigots. /srs
/r/MensRights15/03/14 06:42 PM
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Everything about that sub's name is perfect. Badhistory, badmods- at least they're objective enough to know that they're terrible.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 04:24 PM
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I'm sorry if that actually happened; right now I don't believe you. Doxxing is specifically addressed here. Your post, as it stands, is the equivalent of "I posted to mensrights and they literally ran over my dog and murdered my entire extended family." I mean... if it's true, it's terrible, but as someone who's followed this sub for quite some time it seems highly unlikely.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 06:26 PM
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Right, like asking why academic freedom is important when there is "academic justice" to pursue. Bigots would be incredibly quick to ask that type of question because in their own weird minds, they're not bigoted, just "correctly prejudiced."
/r/MensRights03/03/14 01:24 AM
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I have to agree. I'm inclined to believe he should at least take a break and regain his composure- all the vitrol he puts up with and puts out cannot be healthy. When fighting monsters...
/r/MensRights02/03/14 11:03 PM
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I'm sorry you get that impression. Some of the members here have suffered due to societal perception that sexism against men cannot exist and let that cloud their judgment at times, but it's more about bringing issues that men suffer from to light. It's not exactly a common topic, but I promise the spirit of the sub is in good faith.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 07:04 AM
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...no one here is denying sexism against women exists though...? It's not like you can only have one or the other.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 06:47 AM
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I guess I don't understand. How is it biased to suggest everyone is capable of sexism without regard to their sex/gender?
/r/MensRights19/02/14 06:05 AM
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What's terrible about this?
/r/MensRights19/02/14 05:53 AM
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If we could come up with some sort of group statment and send it to even the dean it would be volumes better than nothing, now that this has been brought to our attention. Upvoted your comment for visibility.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 01:24 AM
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Asserts quite a bit about the motivations of men (for men by men because male) within the institution while simultaneously ignoring the fact that women are the majority of voters, putting these men in power. Yep, that definition couldn't be more biased if it tried, but it would also be convenient for sexists and racists to hide behind. Funny, that.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 07:12 PM
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A creep used to be a sketchy individual participating in lewd behavior. Now, a creep is someone who is subjectively too eager to be friendly. Unfortunately, society does not understand that the label is applied to the latter as if they're all the former.
/r/MensRights13/02/14 09:02 PM
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In the eyes of the law, the mother is the child. I don't mean that in a derogatory way, it's just that the two almost always seem to coincide.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 04:54 PM
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And if it were presented like that instead of hinting at sexism from men being the primary cause of pay inequality you'd actually have a point. Right now, it is commonly espoused that women make 77 cents to every dollar a man makes for equal work, which is a bold faced lie.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 08:57 PM
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We live in a society that tells women bitchy behavior is assertive, not the other way around. I'm lucky to know many women who see right through that bullshit.
/r/MensRights04/02/14 08:49 PM
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Grammar Your
/r/MensRights03/02/14 06:47 PM
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Judge ideas, not the people they come from. There is some merit here.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 08:32 PM
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Broken clock is still right twice a day, I guess.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 05:08 PM
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Well, I can link examples of them doing everything in their power to prevent men's groups from forming, as is my claim. http://www.genuinewitty.com/2013/04/06/mens-rights-feminism-at-uoft-we-must-admit-there-are-bigots-on-both-sides/ http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2013/03/08/a-mens-rights-advocate-spoke-at-the-university-of-toronto/ in Toronto And in Australia, http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1v7qid/adelaide_univesity_male_studies_anatomy_of_a/ and http://www.adelaidenow.com.a…
/r/MensRights20/01/14 08:05 AM
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That would be fine if it wasn't also the excuse in academia and major media. Not to mention, when men attempt to form groups to discuss issues men face, academic feminists do everything in their power to prevent men from gathering, hypocritically call its exclusion of women "misogyny, " and claim a men's space is unnecessary because "feminism is for men, too!" It's an intentionally manufactured catch-22.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 11:00 PM
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You've never heard "feminism helps men too" on the subject of male issues? Really?
/r/MensRights18/01/14 06:48 PM
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Feminists actually claim to care about men's issues as a silencing tactic. If feminists claimed to be for puppy equality I guess your bad analogy would make some sense but it's kinda irrelevant in regard to the discussion.
/r/MensRights18/01/14 06:35 PM
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Seriously, don't attack innocent whales like that
/r/MensRights15/01/14 11:19 PM
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To be fair I'd classify that as being a decent human being, not a "real man."
/r/MensRights15/01/14 05:46 PM
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http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm I keep linking to the 286 empirical studies showing men and women commit DV at nearly the same frequency and it keeps getting deleted. Good luck if anyone else wants to try, I give up.
/r/MensRights12/01/14 07:57 PM
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Careful with that title wording, it's how feminists with bogus studies go from "1/2 of women are raped!" to "1/2 men are rapists!" That said, this study is still useful for showing women cheat in roughly equal number to men, and those that do cheat are likely to be more brazen/callous about it.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 04:49 PM
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(S)he doesn't have any point to make
/r/MensRights08/01/14 06:15 PM
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I hope everyone there has the foresight to see the potential damage caused by putting bigots like this into positions of authority before that happens, if it makes you feel any better.
/r/MensRights04/01/14 05:55 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwPg2oarG_c Mr. Burr nails it
/r/MensRights26/12/13 07:28 AM
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I'm just arguing that discrimination against blacks is not the same as discrimination against whites. They both suck. They both should be stopped. But it is not the same thing. Agreed, but I believe that despite them not being the same they should be frowned upon with equal severity. I understand systematic racism has disadvantaged black people more severely than anyone else in western cultures, but in order to enact widespread cultural change everyone must feel as though they are being equally …
/r/MensRights26/12/13 07:26 AM
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I'm glad to see that the sub agrees in condemning the actions of this reprehensible human being. It's unfortunate that the family courts in western cultures are biased against men, but that doesn't justify attempting to take the life of a child in a petulant rampage. Any message he might have said is lost due to his revolting lack of consideration for the life of a family member. To self-loathe is tragic. To project self-loathing onto others is entirely counter-productive, selfish, and disgustin…
/r/MensRights26/12/13 07:17 AM
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I appreciate your replying in good faith. I'm fairly certain we are on the same page as far as guiding our personal moral compass, and while we might disagee in terms of severity I believe now that our disagreement occours because we are looking from two seperate perspectives. I agree that black people have faced and continue to face far more racial adversity in western cultures, but I also believe that in order to convince society at large to abandon its prejudice against them it must be done i…
/r/MensRights24/12/13 11:18 PM
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I'm afraid I disagree with the whole "institutionalized prejudice is the only kind that matters" mentality. Think about it- that prejudice had to exist in a racist or sexist person before they made it into authority in the first place for it to become institutionalized. It's not the act of becoming mayor that might make an individual proclaim "welp, time to kill the jews!" That mentality always existed in that person, and that is exactly the sort of prejudice I'm against. If a person is biased a…
/r/MensRights24/12/13 09:55 PM
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Wouldn't the best way to address this be to treat everyone well without regards to skin color or sex? I don't understand how someone being less likely to experience discrimination excuses said discrimination.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 04:16 PM
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I agree that black people are more likely to be discriminated against than white people, but I don't understand how that's relevant to the message that everyone should treat eachother with dignity and respect without regards to skin color and sex/gender.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 04:13 PM
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Yes saying be good to people without regards to skin color or sex is such a horrible straw man and no one should ever do that, excellent point and valuable contribution /s
/r/MensRights24/12/13 04:11 PM
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They do exist. My girlfriend is honestly more active publicly for the MHRM than I am, because she realizes it's up to women in many ways to break the societal narrative of male oppressor/female victim. She treats me like a king, and earns my respect and concern. That said, if you don't mind me going a little red pill here do not pedestalize her. Generally speaking, women who can see through that bullshit are able to because they want actual equal treatment. In my case, setting clear mutual bound…
/r/MensRights24/12/13 01:08 AM
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I agree in that some people need to recognize the difference between recognizing privilege and personal attacks based on race. Bringing up the fact that white people are often looked at more favorably under the law is not to say white people cannot be discriminated against because of their skin color. I believe the knee-jerk reaction was as a result of people who typically bring that up also believing you cannot be racist towards white people, which is an unfortunate poisoning of the well. It's …
/r/MensRights21/12/13 06:25 AM
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You'd think someone lobbying for the rights of women could pay women minimum wage in accordance to the country they're working in, but many feminists cannot go without contradicting themselves in every facet of their lives. Why would promoting women's rights be any different? Modern feminism is pretty formulaic at this point. -Assert that you represent all women -When called on bullshit, claim person using patriarchal mental developments like "logic" hates all women. -Do whatever the hell you wa…
/r/MensRights15/12/13 08:56 PM
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She's being paid less than the law mandates she should be paid in a country that mandates she be paid at least "X" amount. It's pretty simple.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 08:51 PM
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I agree that sentencing disparity is a serious issue. I just happen to see this particular case as mostly racially motivated.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 02:20 PM
2

Indeed tragic, but ultimately this is a racial issue and not a sex/gendered one. I don't think this belongs here, and I'm the last person to concern troll (check my post history if you need.)
/r/MensRights14/12/13 08:03 AM
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Hm. While her remarks are undoubtedly sexist, this strikes me as a women's rights issue as well. Her generalisations about the minds of men are indeed contributing to the mindset that all men always want sex no matter the circumstance and that is abhorrent. Preventing women from choosing to earn a living from a lifestyle they are comfortable with choosing just doesn't sit well with me either.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 05:40 PM
1

Yes its much more logical to leave it to professionals who come up with brilliant plans like "shame all men as potential rapists instead of making personal judgement calls, also when a woman forces a man into sex it isn't rape" good point /s
/r/MensRights08/12/13 03:33 PM
2

Are you real? It's not actually to suggust they deserved rape and it is in fact not amazing logic icyww
/r/MensRights07/12/13 10:43 PM
4

Preferably the advice is before the fact instead of after
/r/MensRights07/12/13 10:42 PM
0

Well said.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:19 PM
3

Rape prevention is best left to the individual trying to prevent themselves from being raped because they have more authority over their personal decisions than anyone else. We should, as a society, teach people how to protect themselves from those who do not play by the rules of our society.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:18 PM
0

So even though when polled +90% of women want gender equality and +25% of women identify as feminist, feminists still feel the need to speak for some +60% of women and tell them what they really mean. Feminism, telling women what they actually mean because women aren't capible of figuring it out themselves. Pretty misogynist if you ask me.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 09:00 PM
1

great for most isms
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:52 PM
3

You've said what amounts to "prevention dont real" like 30 times in this thread. No one is sticking up for the rapist, no matter how much you pretend otherwise. You can prevent getting hit by some cars by not being in the street. You can prevent some rapes by not drinking to excess and blacking out in an unfamiliar environment. You cannot stop rape by pretending all men are potential rapists who need to know better, because they don't understand rape is wrong. That will do absolutely nothing to …
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:50 PM
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Saying people can take preventative measures is now saying they deserve rape. Amazing logic
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:22 PM
3

The only way to end discrimination is to discriminate! It all makes so much sense now, only bigotry can end bigotry. /s Apparently, equality = sexism. Also, wasn't it established that women spend the majority of the money spent already? How can she blame the economic crisis on men when women control the majority of the capital within the economy? It would be foolish to blame women for the economy despite this, but saying the fault lay with a sex/gender is psychotic. More brainwashed feminist vic…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:59 AM
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Men are supposed to simply exist until a goddess wymyn blesses the vile beast with her majesty and presence by thinking loudly "I select that male" at which point he should use his patriarchy telepathy to hear her and approach her first, like a REAL MAN
/r/TheRedPill07/12/13 02:53 AM
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"False rape doesn't happen and doesn't hurt anyone when it does" /femsplain
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:31 AM
1

You're a piece of shit. Don't tell me what happened to me. Edit: "DON'T VICTIM BLAME, BUT NONE OF THAT BAD STUFF THAT HAPPENED TO YOU ACTUALLY HAPPENED OR IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE YOU DESERVED IT." We're done here.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 02:09 AM
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Yes her decision to get drunk in a dangerous situation with strangers to the point of passing out is in fact every man's responsibility. She's just a woman and her place isn't making personal decisions, right? It is far more logical to accuse all men of being potential rapists than it would be to have a person take a modicum of responsibility for their personal safety. To say anything else obviously blames the victim and there is no such thing as preventative measures, those are a tool of the pa…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 05:23 AM
2

An actual quote from her- I tried to say, 'You guys are trying to take it personally. This is not a personal attack. We're not all white people, you white people in general. We're talking about whiteness as a system of oppression. So an attribute you're born with is now a system of oppression... What? If you wanted to talk about how being white can exempt you from certain bias or oppression in predominately white countries, that's fine (never mind white slaves and the Irish I guess, or any histo…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 01:22 AM
5

Not everyone knows what you know. Share your knowledge, not your conclusions.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 03:48 PM
2

I should have clarified. Modern politics are the antithesis of intellectual conversation; while intelligent people are capable of intelligent thought on an individual level when engaged in political discussion, it quickly devolves into a battle between the lowest common denominators at a national level. I would like to avoid all the negative stigma that would come with identifying with any political party while addressing the issues the MHRM addresses. These issues go beyond petty partisan polit…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:17 AM
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I have somewhat different political views then you but I agree regardless. Politics are the antithesis of intellectual conversation, and there is no need to politicize the mrhm.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 12:11 AM
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She says many countries that treat its woman poorly treat its men just as poorly if not worse, and explains her stance with examples. You're misrepresenting her in favor of a strawman that's easy to debate. It's the same sort of disingenuous thought that those unaccustomed to debate have used to try to label Warren Farrell an incestuous pedophile.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 10:04 PM
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If you watched the videos by GWW you'd understand her stance isn't that the women in those areas are privileged so much as that men and women have distinct advantages and disadvantages in those areas, but ignoring the plight of half the population is dumb. Of course, if you watched quote mined sources pretty much anyone can be "found saying" anything. Context is key.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 09:55 PM
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Seriously. Im waiting for some rationalization as to how the angry violent mob of degenerates are the Real Victims(tm) because people hold different opinions.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 08:47 PM
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While I agree that violence isn't the answer, I think you look a bit pathetic defending the actions of these horrible bigots who are actually using unprovoked violence as a means of "legitimate protest." For some perspective, one group has members who's extremists say crude things on the internet, and one group physically, psychologically, and sexually harrass/abuse people for absolutely no reason. If saying mean things on the internet makes one a hate group, what does actually attacking people …
/r/MensRights03/12/13 08:31 PM
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Yes, focusing on attributes like sex and race as contributing factors to sexism and racism is an excellent plan to end prejudice against sexes and races. flawless logic right there
/r/MensRights03/12/13 06:30 PM
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More fighting institutionalized prejudice against race and sex by focusing on attributes people are born with, like race and sex, from a position within the institution. Does anyone know if she identifies as feminist? I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't want to label anyone without accurately understanding their position first.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:45 PM
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Sarcasm overload
/r/MensRights13/11/13 04:08 PM
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Yes but those don't count, because THEY'RE TALKING SHUT THE FUCK UP. Also, patriarchy.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 05:25 PM
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Because it frames rape as a male issue instead of a rapist issue. When they made a satirical campaign framing false rape accusations as a female issue as opposed to a liar's issue, however, cognative dissonance and willful ignorance from feminists helped them miss the point entirely.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 05:06 PM
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TIL asking the law treat men and women equally is the same thing as advocating for the rape and murder of women.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 04:59 PM
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Also incredibly likely that he will develop a sense of self worth based upon female sexual approval- poor life decisions seeking validation in a spiral of self destructive behavior influenced by an emotionaly stunted sexual maturity.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 09:54 PM
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I'd give you a proper reply but this rant is pretty creepy and replying would make me uncomfortable. I'm not saying everyone will find it creepy, but to ME personally it is so I have no problems calling you out on it. There's no point in telling you what was creepy about your post, only that I found it creepy and will label it (and you) as such. Please stop stalking my posts with replies, subhuman creep.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:36 PM
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Title is a bit sensationalist but studies confirming both men and women commit this atrocity the higher their (percieved) power does fall in line with an egalitarian world view. Thanks for sharing!
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:50 AM
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Yes, all behavior is objective and if one person finds something creepy, everyone does. It's great that humans have no variety of opinion or that might lead to some serious conflict and boy would we have egg on our faces. Thank you for your valuable contribution to this discussion
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:46 AM
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8/10 but next time say he was probably a rapist anyways
/r/MensRights05/11/13 11:31 PM
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I agree in that context and location are certainly important to consider, but video evidence of any person kicking another in the genitals is enough to warrant assault charges. He might not be able to depending on the region's stance on self defense, but from an entirely westernized legal standpoint he acted entirely in self defense.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 01:55 AM
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Hang on, I'll get my much smaller girlfriend to go and kick you in the balls, just PM me your location. We can film it, and you can show us the proper procedure on how to react when being assaulted as long as the person assaulting you is a woman.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 01:49 AM
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Right thing? Violence is never the "right thing" if we must play semantics, but he absolutely (with regards to the context of the video) acted within self-defense. If someone kicks a man in the balls, the man has every right to push them away. If they come back swinging after that, the man has every right to hit them in order to stop the attack. This is true for all people- if you're assaulted, you have every right to defend yourself without regards to your sex or gender. Furthermore, why are no…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 01:45 AM
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Derp. You're right, my bad.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:57 PM
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90%*
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:21 PM
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Introduce them to the ones arguing that forcing a male into sex isn't rape and writting our laws so that shared custody is vilified, because all these level headed feminista aren't the ones in academia and litigation.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:51 PM
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You don't get it and your trolling is bad. No one in the mrhrm thinks legitimate cases of rape are just lies told to incriminate good people, but we do recognise that false rape accusations are bad and more common than currently believed societally. Only a disingenuous idiot could somehow derive that the mhrm thinks all rapes are false, but it's pretty much a given that most of the opposition is composed of disingenuous idiots so I don't know why I'm surprised by this sad attempt at a troll.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 11:44 PM
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Thanks for sharing this. I'll contribute whatever meager donation I can scrape together tonight. It's obvious the state does not give a shit; I'd rather like to avoid another Earl Silverman scenario, personally.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:57 PM
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/s dude, I love this sub but there is so much of what you're joking about said non-ironically that many members won't see that it's a joke.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:40 PM
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Maybe we just don't like sentencing disparity based on sex or gender, and aren't gullible enough to believe privilige is still sexism. Coming to that conclusion would require reading some of this sub before arriving at pre-determined conclusions though, so I understand how you're confused on the issue.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:26 PM
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You're not very smart if you think this is about male superiority. The whole "because men commit more rapes than women, all men must be held accountable" logical fallacy that feminists buy into is the exact same logic being adhered to with this baby dumping satirical poster. It sucks, being framed as accountable for horrible things individuals within your sex/gender even though you personally wouldn't do them and the overwhelming majority of your sex/gender finds those actions abhorrent, doesn't…
/r/MensRights27/10/13 05:04 PM
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You argue about coherent theories and yet you defend a worldview that proclaims all societies have been set up to favor men at the expense of women (patriarchy, lol.) Care to explain how we don't live in a gynocentric world that is indifferent towards the suffering of men when men make up the overwhelming majority of hostile working/living conditions, without using another "patriarchy hurts men too" claim? A case for plutocracy could be considered, but any worldview that claims men favor men bec…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 10:04 PM
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He needs a /s I guess
/r/MensRights18/10/13 06:00 PM
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Excellent introductory resource. It's important to draw attention to the fact that one can be antifeminist on egalitarian grounds- personally, it's how I ended up invested in the mhrm.
/r/MensRights18/10/13 05:58 PM
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http://karenwoodall.wordpress.com/2013/10/11/breaking-down-the-walls-of-heartache-towards-a-united-equalities-movement/
/r/MensRights13/10/13 05:22 PM
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Occasional good article and presents some uncomfortable truths at times; completely misses the point with deliberately inflammatory click bait most of the time. Read it if you like it, but as with anything pua related just take it with a grain of salt. Understand its mostly hyperbole and chest thumping disguised as "legitimate."
/r/MensRights13/10/13 06:51 AM
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To be fair it's both incentive and cultural acceptance of gynocentrisism; a case could be made that there is also incentive to unfairly incarcerate black men within the prison industry. I do agree that incentive is not the only reason, however.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 07:36 PM
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I'm partial towards a large and effective mensrights personally
/r/MensRights06/10/13 10:23 PM
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Excellent observations and contrubution. Deconstructing gender roles really is so much deeper than "men bad women good."
/r/MensRights01/10/13 10:03 PM
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I'm sorry but who are the majority of voters by sex again? The last time I checked it was women. Women voting for who they feel most accurately represents them without regards to their sex or gender is actually the opposite of sexism. Quotas enforcing authoritative positions within the institution based on sex would be defacto sexism.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 08:44 PM
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A man standing against feminism can conveniently be portrayed as an "evil patriarch." A woman requires much thicker cognitive dissonance, which is how the less effective internalized misogyny rationalization exists. Because we live in a feminized society, woman standing against feminism strikes harder against the claim that feminism is to empower women and better egalitarianism.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 02:26 AM
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I've honestly always had the impression that those areas really are more concerned with ending gender roles, but due to global gynocentrism just hadn't noticed men's issues. Feminists have touted the imbalance as a near-complete victory in the western hemisphere and over there as well, but the average people tend to see right through them and recognize there is much work to be done. It can't last.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 02:17 AM
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Personally I am very interested, but I figure I'll be able to get a summary when it's settled. Right now, because I cannot attend, I just wish them the best of luck.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 02:03 AM
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It's actually pretty clever. If the area was truely patriarchal, a candidate like that would have no issue being elected. Making a satire against the psuedo-intellectual patriarchy theory by providing an actual patriarchal candidate to show just how unpopular such a candidate would be is no more childish than the (currently widely accepted) claims that all men are oppressors with nothing but mal-intent towards women. The only way I can see this being childish is if patriarchy theory is twice as …
/r/MensRights25/09/13 07:13 PM
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People won't be so quick to dismiss the group in edmonton (and believe feminist opinion of mras in general) after realizing just how inane the claims are. Seriously, how are people missing this as satire?
/r/MensRights25/09/13 06:17 PM
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I don't have much but I will certainly contribute what I can. Thank you for bringing this to attention!
/r/MensRights20/09/13 07:01 PM
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You were thoroughly debunked in that thread. Why are you crossposting here? Unless your goal was to pull attention to the fact that you apparently think women are incapible of making decisions. You keep refering to sex as a choice the man makes while refering to it as something that "just happens" to women. Insinuating women cannot make their own decisions regarding sex and need priviliged choices as a eay to opt out is pretty misogynistic. Everyone should get a choice in consenting to parenthoo…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 05:21 PM
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What was awful about this video? It sounded like legitimate discussion.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 08:18 PM
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The more I read about feminists hating fedoras, the more I want to get one. I always thought it looked cheesy, but if it's pissing some female supremacist somewhere off it'd really be worth it. Girls are dressing "slutty" in order to dis-empower the stereotype. Why not have men dress up like in the 1940s in order to achieve the same thing?
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:08 PM
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A feminist who actually adheres to the claimed intent of feminism is a rare thing, indeed. It's worth noting that we have allies on the other side of the fence, but they are often drowned out by the majority of misandrists.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 08:01 PM
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Pro-choice-unless-male, because men don't deserve choices
/r/MensRights04/09/13 10:31 PM
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Why not "if a person is drunk and raped, they are responsible for what happened" instead of If a woman is drunk and raped, she's responsible for what happened Why not "a person who is drunk and sexually assaults another person is responsible for what happened" instead of A male student who is drunk and sexually assaults a woman is responsible for what happened. I can actually answer my own questions, to be fair. They want to paint all instances of women drinking and having sex as instances in wh…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:36 PM
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Society. Right now, if a woman entraps a man into an unwanted pregnancy, society dictates that "he should have kept it in his pants if he didn't want to get her pregnant!" The whole "abstinence or suffer the consequences!" mentality is decidedly pro-life.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:34 PM
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idea is that one of the choices results in another human to take care of, and the other does not. At least that's the impression I'm gettin Right. The pro-life narrative results in another human to take care of, and the pro-choice narrative does not. Telling men they must be pro-life and women that they must be pro-choice is sending conflicting, gendered messages to society about equality.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:02 PM
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I'm sorry the method I chose to express my incredulity does not meet your standard of nuance
/r/MensRights31/08/13 04:19 PM
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Glad to see further progress for equality. Keep up the good fight.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:16 AM
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I'm glad we were able to discuss this rationally. I understand how my comment could initially be perceived, but that slogan quite nicely summarizes it. I am not against women choosing to have an abortion if they're not ready for parenthood. I am against men being forced into fatherhood if they're not ready for parenthood.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:23 AM
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I personally am pro choice. What I don't understand, is why men don't get to have the choice not to become a parent under the same financial or circumstantial evidence that women are allowed to not become a parent under. How can it be called pro-choice if only one person is allowed to make any decision? Obviously, it would be abhorrent to allow men to make the decision to force a woman to abort her unborn child if he didn't want to be a father. If a mother can abort under the pretense of "not fi…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 02:58 AM
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Pro-choice is going to be the narrative for quite some time regardless to your feelings on it. Sorry. What you can do, however, is argue for men to have a choice to sacrifice their parental rights and abandon their parental responsibilities before the child is born. Limit it to the same time period women are allowed to make their decision. Either everyone gets a choice, or no one should. Forcing people to be pro-life and repeating "if you didn't want a child you shouldn't have had sex!" ad-nause…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 01:49 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRoKSMOKhkU if anyone wants an actual recording of events instead of the feminist narrative
/r/MensRights31/08/13 01:27 AM
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You will never understand the pain and trauma created by having a universally easier time surviving due to societal perception that women are incapable of wrong doing. Solidarity, sisters! /s
/r/MensRights30/08/13 05:54 PM
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Flip the script and repeat it to her. "Of course a woman can't be raped if she's wet. That's proof she actually wanted it!" See how vile that looks? What she said is no less vile.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 01:03 AM
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Nothing says diversity quite like rejecting applicants based on their gender, skin color, and sexual orientation!
/r/MensRights26/08/13 01:37 AM
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Numerous valid points like "If we look at the numbers without understanding any of the social science behind gathering the numbers and entirely ignore the more relevant 12 month figures there's just no way to come to the conclusion MRA's are coming to" He does not even illustrate the point that the 12 month figures are more accurate to illustrating the narrative in the present, whereas the lifetime numbers are more accurate for understanding the past. I'm not sure if he understands how to projec…
/r/MensRights25/08/13 07:37 PM
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Disclaimer: In your context you are correct. This is not an accusation of anything. Your message was well said, but I see potential ramification in misunderstanding your argument. Just a friendly reminder not to assume dogmatic knowledge in any subject when debating as a matter of integrity. Always assume to educate unless it's become objectively apparent that they do not wish to learn, and always emphasize education regardless. Inform them exactly how they are obstructing conversation in an eff…
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:03 AM
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"Because the Widom and Morris study admits it may have fault, it cannot be used in any sense in actually attempting to evaluate the numbers presented. Furthermore, lifetime numbers are much more important because they are larger. Additionally, being made to penetrate doesn't count as rape because the cdc defined it differently, and I'm too stupid to consider the potential academic implications of giving words two interchangeable meanings. Finally, being made to penetrate shouldn't even classify …
/r/MensRights25/08/13 04:11 AM
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This thread is actually really useful in a sense, but that sense would be to get the actual message out there. Don't fall for the typical feministic trope that "sarcasm = wit" because it largely does not. Explain your position clearly. Remember, if you approach the situation like a feminist, you will be perceived as you perceive feminists. Stick to the issues. Feminism is directly responsible for the marginalizing and suffering of male victims, which is why you cannot support it in the name of e…
/r/MensRights25/08/13 04:07 AM
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Just a warning, I'd avoid commenting after reading through the comments. It's sorta obvious you'll just get blocked and removed, and potentially quote-mined
/r/MensRights25/08/13 03:32 AM
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http://personality-testing.info/tests/DT.php As an individual who has researched insight into game theory and the dark triad test, most prominent websites have come to notice a correlation between members who score towards the extremely highly in the 3 fields (Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and Psychopathy) are more likely to be "successful" as defined by PUA culture and picking up women. Serial killers also tend to score quite highly. Slightly off topic, but my own hypothesis has started to deve…
/r/MensRights24/08/13 11:55 PM
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haha. While I agree with your sentiment, I'm merely implying that the fact that this has even been considered as worthy of discussion on huffpo is progress.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 11:15 PM
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It's progress, anyways.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 11:05 PM
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Is there a recording of the unedited interviews to be found anywhere? Making videos to contextualize quote-mined data will prove very fruitful.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 10:43 PM
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Just because laws enacting change are drafted does not imply cultural acceptance of said laws. Think to prohibition for a poweful example.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 08:37 PM
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Change can occur under either pretense, but cultural acceptance of mentioned change is largely dependant on the choice vs societal engineering paradigm being discussed right now. In order for the cultural acceptance of the aformentioned change to occur, society must choose (or perceive to choose) to accept it.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 08:34 PM
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Not you apparently, because you asked for the clarification that I provided. I'm confused, why would you mock yourself by sarcastically saying the answer is obvious when it was initially you who asked the question?
/r/MensRights24/08/13 05:01 PM
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Choice is a voluntary cultural mentality adaptation and social engineering is a societal legal mandate
/r/MensRights24/08/13 04:05 PM
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Yes girls just don't want sex at that age, but boys obviously do, because men are pigs! Also if a minor wants it then it doesn't count. Sarcasm aside, it's really unfair to judge the wants and best interests of underage boys in a manner differently than you would for girls in regards to intercourse. Both are still developing healthy sexual identities at that age; even if they enjoy the acts with their adult peers, it doesn't mean the adult peer isn't taking advantage of the situation. Hence, sta…
/r/MensRights24/08/13 07:17 AM
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The "halls of power" within society are a majority men put in place by men and women voting within a system that does not give preference to the gender of either voter in regards to voting power. This is an important distinction to make. Assuming a politician who is male is more likely to seek preferential treatment for men rather than their demography insinuates women would do the same thing if both genders are equal human beings- in reality, politicians tend to pander to the lowest common deno…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 07:33 AM
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Where is the hypocrisy though? I think I'm getting hung up on the fact that this incident was aimed at a specific law in Australia which does not apply over here. This wasn't a ladies mag, it was a student paper. Many people in this thread have made the comparison of publishing uncircumcised males as a way to show that our bodies are beautiful no matter what society might tell us about it. If that happened and we were lambasted for it, then I would see the hypocrisy. Lads mags being banned due t…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 06:55 AM
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That's fine and well, but there's still a large resentment within the MRM because every time they'd attempt just this feminists would intervene with claims of "men's issues aren't real!" This later evolved into "Men's issues are real but feminism will address them!" Followed by outright dismissal, hostility, or incredulity towards the idea of a man complaining about men's issues. The hostility wouldn't be there if the ideas presented within MRM weren't generally received with hostility from femi…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 05:12 AM
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You said "Yeah. For men." which implies that wealth was/is only empowering for men. Those are your words. Unless you're arguing that women only got fair access to jobs recently in which case I'd like to remind you that men had to bear the burden of supporting the family unit's financial and physical situation until just as recently, and both genders had different sets of difficulties imposed societally upon them, and that women were not alone in unfair treatment. It's kinda hard to get what you'…
/r/MensRights23/08/13 05:03 AM
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To be fair, this does highlight an issue in hypocrisy. Not really a men's rights issue- is there a feminist hypocrisy subreddit? In the name of feminism, we have lads mags being banned to prevent access to sexual imagery whilst simultaneously in the name of feminism, we have magazines being published covered in vaginas. I realize I'm mostly just asserting about a double standard but I don't really want to explain how and derail further. If you'd like, I will, but I'd really rather not. If we wan…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 11:18 PM
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If someone would take the time to access the metadata, it would be much appreciated.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 10:43 PM
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Great work, and thanks for backing your claims (as we always should.) Precisely the sort of information that should be brought to light.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 06:58 AM
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After my girlfriend did some digging on this issue, she found the following- http://youtubebots.org/ http://youtubebots.org/vandallism-youtube-bot/ Notice how they can spam flag any video and are captcha proof. They've been used to deliberately destroy videos with contrarian viewpoints to major religion and feminism (same thing) over the last few days, actually. It's not just limited to his account.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:35 AM
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I love how the courts spin the issue so that the woman attempting to hire a hitman is somehow actually the victim in all this. Please link me to the cases with men admitting to conspiring to murder their wives and getting portrayed as the victim, lurking feminists. I'll be more inclined to believe in a systematic bias in our courts against women if you do.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 11:07 PM
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I guess the 2% of false allegations all come from westernized cultures and literally no where else in order to be that low despite it happening "all the time." Weird. Oh well, there's absolutely no way feminists would use biased statistics in order to affect perception. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to understand why men are all lucky when they're victims of statutory rap- er, statutory made to penetration, because a powerful wymmyn goddess blessed the young rapist with the option of intercou…
/r/MensRights16/08/13 12:20 AM
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Screenshot please!
/r/MensRights14/08/13 06:34 PM
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Incredibly sad.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 05:42 PM
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http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/not-all-feminists-are-like-that-3/ Read this and you'll understand why we're disgruntled with feminism.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 05:33 PM
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Can you not see how hypocritical that is? Men's rights as you are portraying it is equally toxic as all of these things - though I have seen way more hate come from this subreddit than I have ever heard of come from feminism. That's because feminism silences those in favor of gender equality with legitimate concerns. You don't see "hate" because you don't see anything that disagrees with anything they say. If your concern does not fit the approved "checklist of concerns," it's deemed unimportant…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 11:49 PM
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No but I believe islam is toxic because people commit horrific acts in its name with more regularity than any other religion Just as christianity is toxic because it claims to promote loving everyone while it actually promotes hating everyone who doesn't place their faith in it Just as feminism is toxic because political misandrists in positions of authority push for laws promoting female supremacy in the name of feminists everywhere The point is, the true scotsman fallacy doesn't really prevent…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 09:07 PM
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Is there anything mere redditors can do to contribute towards combating this sexist institution?
/r/MensRights11/08/13 12:45 AM
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I completely agree on the facts presented within this article. Just because someone is against social injustice doesn't mean they've suffered from it. Ideally, we should be able to perceive social injustice and work towards fixing it without being a victim of it. Preventing victims of social injustice should always be a welcome discourse, regardless to the gender of the victim.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 12:37 AM
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Please consider that by identifying as a feminist, it's in your name political feminists are enacting misandrist policy! They don't care if you support them or not, so long as you support their label. Consider "egalitarian" as that's probably way more in line with your beliefs than you'd realize. It suits mine, and as one I was able to impartially observe the Feminists vs MRA paradigm develop, and see who is fighting for egalitarianism amongst the genders. I understand something that many MRAs d…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 12:27 AM
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Thank you for highlighting this issue. It needs all the attention it can get, as we are currently creating a hostile environment for men and boys by creating a society that allows them no emotional outlets whist demonizing their evolutionary programmed masculinity.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 06:42 PM
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Yes, absolutely. I still identify as an egalitarian primarily, and all context in approaching the issue of men's inferior treatment under the law in western civilization is appreciated.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 06:34 PM
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Everyone helping to explain how these injustices continue to remain unaddressed is doing something for the cause. Don't undermine yourself on this issue, you're doing plenty enough just by raising awareness. I appreciate your compliment, but don't thank me. The great free thinkers within the MRA association deserve all the credit. I'm essentially providing my understanding of their arguments and observations for those who refuse to read them elsewhere.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 06:03 PM
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This is just the old, "It's not bigotry, it's just true". So if something's true and a person perceives it as bigotry without explaining why or how it's bigotry, it must be bigotry because perceptions never vary? Are you insane? The solution to this is not to form a he man woman haters club. Well seeing as that club has never existed, and these problems still exist, and you fail repeatedly to acknowledge these problems are blatantly being ignored by feminism by resorting to shaming and ad-homine…
/r/MensRights10/08/13 05:46 PM
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I am saying this. Criticizing a religious doctrine or scripture would probably not be bigotry. Saying that people who identify as a religion are in some way inferior sounds pretty bigoted. Saying something is inferior does not infer falsehood in objective reality. I could say 5 is inferior to 6 in numerical hierarchy. Does this mean I think 5's are infected with the gay/black/hispanic/asian/other stereotype for cretins, or that I am simply stating objective fact? You need to understand objective…
/r/MensRights10/08/13 03:09 AM
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It's completely relevant. Dawkins claims the Muslim religion promotes hostility. I'm not quite sure how that's bigotry. It's like saying the Christian religion promotes blind faith, and shaming against non-Christians. Are you insinuating that those claims make me Bigoted towards Christians, or "racist" against them as you so eloquently put it earlier? I'm not sure you understand what bigotry means. Just because it's not a government sanctioned "bigot" group doesn't mean they're not bigots. The K…
/r/MensRights10/08/13 01:06 AM
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Feminism is the problem, because powerful political feminists who are also radical feminists claim the support of the entire group to enact sexist laws/cultures that 70% of the group would disagree with if they bothered to notice. People really need to stop investing their identities in ideologues, and actually identify with ideas.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 10:21 PM
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This is the same CDC that says men can't be raped when they're forced into sex by women, so I'm sure they have something stating that men can't overdose. Men probably suffer from "voluntary pharmaceutical abuse" which is different from overdosing, because they can't be a victim of a patriarchal system that caters specifically to them you see.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 07:01 PM
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B-b-but we don't have context! I bet he raped her 3 times before they started filming! This brave young wymmyn is a hero and the REAL tragedy is that this hetero-cis-white-scum lived through the ordeal. DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY But on a serious note that's horrifying. What was her sentencing? Please tell me some sort of justice for an unprovoked assault was served?
/r/MensRights08/08/13 12:22 AM
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Huh. I guess misogyny really is a global problem. All of those countries just admitted that they do not believe women can make it into positions of authority based on the strength of their character, and need help getting there because they're just women. Strange how feminist leadership leads to that outcome.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 08:23 PM
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Evolutionary psychology.
/r/MensRights07/08/13 04:54 PM
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He's alluding to the fact that boys and girls want sex equally. Girls just realize they can hide this fact for personal benefit within the dating market much sooner and/or reliably than boys do. Women, through evolutionary psychology, are superior to men at manipulating societal etiquette within dating hierarchy. They're superior in manipulating perceived opinion of themselves within communities because their survival benefited from this attribute. Conversely, men are superior at perceiving thre…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 05:58 AM
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Thanks for the infographic. I don't post much within MRA websites, but I do try to combat feminist misinformation through grassroots attempts frequently. This will simplify presenting this issue significantly rather than having that exact conversation with each individual.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 12:20 AM
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