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Traditional men who make more and think it’s the woman’s job to keep house are more likely to intentionally leave messes. So your motivation to keep a clean house is to… troll strangers online? Weird but ok, you do you I guess? “Absolutely nothing other than get pregnant” and carry the baby, deal with swollen legs feet hands, bladder issues, back issues sore breast issues. Push life out of her and deal with possible risks associated with childbirth, like losing too much blood. Post birth recover…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:08 PM
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It should feel fair for both people. Does being a higher earner mean one has to be a slob intentionally? What if the higher earner works less hours and has more free time than their partner? Should they intentionally leave messes for the other person to clean because they make more even though the other person has less time? If you were the one earning less would you be ok with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:50 PM
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Exactly. And this is why in some countries where women have little rights, they have to cover their heads and whole bodies because their culture doesn’t hold men accountable for their actions, they blame the women. OP’s post basically endorses that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:56 PM
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I can understand that from your perspective. It doesn’t sound like you are suffering in this arrangement. Which is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:02 AM
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Yeah that’s different than Christianity, where women historically and in many Christian groups today are not seen that way. They use select biblical verses to justify treating their wives as children (that they have sex with), basically. Not all, as there are so many different groups, but the ones that still preach sexist biblical gender roles are still this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:00 AM
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So many women in Christian marriages have been abused due to Christian biblical gender roles that teach obedience from the woman. It’s one of those terms that has a negative connotation for many people. I’m saying this someone who was also raised Christian. To be honest, most religions see women in a lesser light than men anyway. And many men use that to oppress and abuse them, using their religion as justification. Not all, but a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:16 PM
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I get the logic of some of what you posted but cringe at the term ‘obedience’ which is defined as basically following orders. From what you described, it sounds more like discussing and then deferring to someone in a leadership role who has earned the leadership through competence, mutual respect and consideration and such. It’s not for me personally due many factors, one being that I have never once met any man who was competent in all things to the point that I can just defer everything and sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:55 PM
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For clarity, do you mean men who ask a woman out on a date and then don’t want to pay? Or do you mean men who don’t want to pay for all future dates with the same woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:28 PM
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Those women are the minority. Most women do not hate men just like most men do note hate women. Are men justified in hating women because a minority of women post about hating men? Are women justified in hating men because a minority of men post about hating women? Both are stupid imo. We have the ability to filter out shit people in our lives, regardless of what is posted online. There’s no need to hate, just filter and avoid anyone who gives bad vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:39 PM

This is not a common situation IRL. But it doesn’t seem like all the women and some of men here trying to explain this are getting through to the men here who really want to believe this is a thing, for whatever self sabotaging reason. If this honestly happened to a guy that sucks of course. But again, not that common. To create a scenario and run with it is like losing the race before getting to the track. It’s just so weird. I personally don’t know anyone past the age of 17 in real life who th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:40 AM

I don’t know any woman who enjoys certain sexual acts not doing them with their current partners. If they enjoyed it with their ex, they will want to do it with their current partner. People typically want to continue sexual acts they enjoy. If the current partner isn’t that great at it they will likely show them how they like it rather than not do it. Men like blow jobs right? Do men choose not to get blow jobs from their current girlfriends even though it was something they enjoyed from their …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:49 PM

I don’t know if you’re for real here but if so please please be careful out there. Honestly it’s ok to have boundaries. Being open to anything even if you don’t like it can attract bad people and put you at harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:40 PM

But what if he found her?? Someone always does win the lottery right? So there is someone out there who may be into this. Karma may bring her right to him lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:00 PM

What if she wants to do a threesome with another guy? And film it? What if she has a suffocation fetish and wants you to wrap a bag around her head until she passes out and then have sex with her while she’s unconscious? There’s so many kinks out there. Is there a hard stop for you in what you are willing to do or will you do anything, in the interest of fairness and consistency, even if you yourself don’t like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:58 PM

What if she tells you it’s her kink, she initiated it, she enjoys doing that. Would you do it if it was something she wants to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:39 PM

Really? So if your gf pegged and bit her ex boyfriend’s nipples while pissing on him and making him lick up the piss 14 times while recording it and sharing with her friends, you would let her do that to you 14 times because consistency?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:25 PM

If she enthusiastically engaged in certain sexual acts that she enjoyed and didn’t want to do them with you, I can see that being an issue. Usually though, the things we enjoy doing sexually, we want to do with any partner. If she did something she really didn’t enjoy, that’s different, and consistency and fairness doesn’t apply, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be a dealbreaker for you. We all get to decide what works and doesn’t work for us. On the flip side, if there was something you did that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:16 PM
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You posted in another thread the importance of procreation and having children. Here, you are telling us men should not be responsible for the results of procreation. Pairing your view from another thread with the view in this thread, are you arguing that men should not be responsible for children that they created, but woman should have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:45 PM
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Rejecting a guy in an insulting way when it’s not warranted, ie his approach was polite and not creepy nor nasty. I was with a co-worker at a club for an informal work gathering and a guy came up to us and asked would we like to dance with him and his friend and my co-worker said, “ eww, why would we dance with you?” I was mortified, the look on his face. He quietly walked away. I waited a few minutes then told her I had to go use the washroom but went over to his table and apologized. He was fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:25 PM

Wow… not sure if you’re trolling or seriously unraveled and off your meds. Either way, bad faith post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:31 PM

Is this an example or something you actually did??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:28 PM
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Yes, you can have the benefits without the disadvantage of boyfriend responsibilities, and that goes both ways. She too can have the benefits without girlfriend responsibilities, meaning she can sleep with other men because she’s single. I mean, obviously you both can sleep with other people. So if you are ok with that and don’t want a relationship and she’s on the same page, it can work for both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:50 PM
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What do you want women to do? Be celibate and wear all black for a year like they’re in mourning? Would you recommend men do that after a break up? Why should women not move on fast after a break up if they want to? For that matter, why should men not do the same? Moving on fast doesn’t mean that everyone they meet is at risk of getting dumped. There are many reasons why someone moves on fast. One of the biggest ones is when they checked out long before the relationship ended and don’t have any …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:55 PM
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If you tried for four years and could not find women for casual sex, I very much doubt you have the sociopathic ability to con women into having sex with you by leading them on. Attracting women, for casual or otherwise, requires a certain level of social skills. Even if the goal is to just use them (which is shitty), you still need social skills. Why don’t you walk us through how you approach women and maybe some of the guys here can give you some feedback. Maybe you don’t have to turn off your…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:05 AM
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A sociopath lacks the ability to have empathy. It’s a serious mental disorder, not a personality trait. Instead of aiming to have a serious mental disorder, maybe just find like minded women to have casual sex with? They are out there. Also, you don’t need to be sociopath to use women as you described in your OP, you just need to be a piece of shit to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:50 PM
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I totally agree with you. I’m just giving the rational behind the decision of women pushing this onto their daughters. They are contributing to the maintenance of this trauma. Until they see how horrific this actually is, changes won’t be made. They know that there are significant health risks to this ie infections (if only one opening is left, constant ripping and major risks during labour, etc). I’m not sure where they can begin with change based on what their economic limitations are, but it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:57 PM
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In cultures where female circumcision is practiced, you’re right it is the women who facilitate this with their daughters because that’s the only way they can get married. These men won’t marry a woman who can enjoy sex. Marriage is an economic and social necessity in cultures where women have little rights and parents don’t want their daughters to be ostracized from the community nor can they afford to support them as adults. As young as 12, this happens. So, even though it’s the women who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:52 PM
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Women need to recharge their batteries too. We are not robots. Trust me, the last thing you want is your wife to view you as another chore she has to deal with. Nothing kills sexual attraction faster than a man child. If you really prefer not to have to do chores or clean up after yourself, hire a maid. Your partner is not your servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:41 PM
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Equal partnership seems to be the majority in my observation, in particular in couples under age 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:09 PM
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In Canada, paid parental leave (at a % of your salary) is up to 18 months and can be split between the parents, but it seems it’s still the mothers who take the majority of the leave, even though fathers are equally entitled to it. It’s slowly increasing though, but I think we have a long way to go with men being more comfortable taking more parental leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:56 PM
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Look imo I don’t see any issues with men shooting their shot in any of above scenarios. It does work if he’s not creepy about it and she is interested. The problem is men who can’t or won’t read the signs that she’s not interested, and continuing with the approach. The other problem is how they approach. If his opening is 100% sexual in nature that can be seen as creepy, regardless of how physically attractive he is. We know that a guy is interested if he cold approaches, why else is he cold app…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:16 PM
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If you genuinely like and are attracted to him then no. If you are only with him for resources and not attracted to him then yes, try the sugar baby route.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:31 PM
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I like how men are more open in general with people. Just accepting people as is based on common interests. I find interacting with men less intimidating than interacting with women I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:16 PM
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Just keep her legs closed is vastly different then not ejaculating. When you are ready to hold men to same standard of accountability that you expect women to have around birth control, then perhaps we can have a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:16 AM
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Nonsense. You have a valid point about men having the right to not take responsibility if they really didn’t want to be a father and the woman decided she’s going to have the baby. I agree in that case, men should have the right to ‘abort’ any responsibility. The nonsense part is men agreeing with that but then getting upset when I and others here point out that the best way to avoid even having to deal with any financial responsibility is to actually not put yourself in that position to begin w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:37 AM
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How? By suggesting that men wear condoms? If you ejaculate into a woman then you are taking a risk of getting her pregnant. Don’t want to be baby trapped? Then don’t ejaculate inside of her. It’s not my intention to offend you. To me, this is common sense. If a woman was worried about an unwanted pregnancy I would advise her to use birth control. Is that victim blaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:33 AM
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It takes two people to conceive. If at least one is making an effort to avoid that…. Just like a woman can avoid getting pregnant by taking birth control, so too can a man avoid getting someone pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:29 AM
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Best defence against baby trapping is condom + pulling out. Men don’t have to ejaculate inside of a woman. Even if she says she’s on the pill: condom and pull out anyway. If she insists, insist more. If I was a guy and that afraid of being baby trapped, it would definitely influence how I approached sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:15 AM
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To your ability, and not to the detriment of your own mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:25 PM
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I admire your motivation to be the best. It’s better than not bothering to try at all. Being the best at sex doesn’t carry a whole relationship though. It’s important to get her off, but if a guy is a complete asshole, being good in bed isn’t going to be enough to put up with his shit. I’m sure some guys feel the same way with women who are good in bed. I mean, the amount of time for sex is a small sliver compared to the amount of non sexual time you spend with your partner, so when you are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:11 PM
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Most virgin women don’t stay with the first man they slept with. They also don’t always enjoy sex with their first sexual partner. Also, being a virgin doesn’t mean they don’t know what gets them off, because being a virgin doesn’t mean you’ve never masturbated, had sexual fantasies, nor explored your own body. I mean come on…..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:54 PM
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Polyamory is not the same as polygamy. Polyamory is both men and women having multiple partners, within or outside of a marriage. Polygamy is one person with multiple spouses, typically one man with multiple wives. Are you suggesting that polyamory is beneficial to both men and women, or polygamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:32 PM
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Polygamy made sense when there were less men due to war etc, and women needed men to survive. There was an economic motivation for women to be a polygamist. Hundreds of years later, this is no longer the case. Women don’t have to choose polygamy out of necessity. Now it’s mainly limited to religions such as Islam and FLDS. Also, my understanding is that polygamy in religions where it is allowed is on the decline, with not only women opting out but men as well. Many men are not excited about havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:04 PM
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Do you know anything about this man? He was the leader of a cult that forced young girls to marry old men who raped them. He was also a pedo. He got a 13 year old pregnant. Don’t equate promiscuous with raping. Is there a full moon tonight? These topics….
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 09:09 PM
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You are essentially in an open relationship with a main partner. This is vastly different than what you wrote in your OP. I see that you have posted this on various subreddits. What’s the intention here? Are you suggesting that men accept open relationships where both people can sleep with others or are you suggesting men should accept being cheated on by their girlfriends? Both are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:26 PM
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This is a hard sell for any man with self respect. We don’t expect us women to put up with this so why should we ask men to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:20 PM
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Many are also more likely to be part of a religion where they are expected to smile and put up with shit husbands due to biblical gender roles where women are seen as property and not actual human beings, and are blamed when their husbands cheat or beat them. There is a site all about this and I wish it was fake but it’s not. For example telling men that they can still have sex with their wives even if it hurts her, just focus on her body and not the look of pain on her face. They use the bible …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:18 PM
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“The man is the head, but the woman is the neck. And she can turn the head any way she wants.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:03 PM
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People do what you let them do. Forgiving and taking her back lets her decide what your boundaries are for what you will accept in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 11:56 PM
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That’s a very small percentage of women. Most clients of sex workers are men. I would guess 99%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:56 AM
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I can count on one finger the amount of bachelorette parties and girls’ only parties I’ve been to where there was a male stripper. I’ve been to many all female parties I don’t think this is as common as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:53 AM
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Hen dos. 100% gonna use this phrase moving forward. I love it!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:50 AM
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If this isn’t a message for women to be educated, employed and self reliant, I don’t know what is. My gosh…..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:53 AM
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I don’t know the stats on self reporting. But from your stats, 52% of woman wanting the divorce is just over half. I wouldn’t say that’s a big majority. I understand anyone’s apprehension about a partner leaving a relationship. I think we all have or have had that fear. Of course, we want our relationships to work out. But life is messy and unpredictable. If someone doesn’t want to get married because the end of that relationship can result in financial complications or other complications relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:15 AM
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Don’t know how it works in Denmark, but here in Canada, only one person needs to file for divorce. Even if the decision was mutual, only one of them has to go and file. There are cases where the guy was the one who left the marriage, and the woman eventually filed for the divorce because her ex didn’t bother. Here, a divorce can’t even be granted until you have been separated for a year. What I’m saying is sometimes these stats don’t convey who actually left the marriage. It just says who filed …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:36 AM
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Believing that he is entitled to royal treatment just because he has a penis. Guys who belittle their male friends to try to make themselves look better. Usually in front of girls. Being aggressive for no reason, you know, those guys who walk around basically asking for a fight, picking on other men, usually men smaller than them. Referring to their girlfriends as “my bitch” and sharing with his friends what they do sexually, “I made my bitch deep throat me last night.” Referring to himself as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:11 AM
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It certainly sounds like it. Fortunately, there are lots of normal healthy men who are not threatened by a woman who can actually use her brain cells. Some men want more from a partner than a walking breathing fleshlight with ‘feminine skills’ aka cooking/cleaning. I mean, yes, it’s understandable if a guy doesn’t want a bossy woman who thinks she’s smarter and better at everything, but this guy seems to want a woman who is incompetent so he can control her. That’s pretty disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:58 PM
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A lot of women have options so don’t need to share a man. Most women aren’t into that. For that woman who I knew who was doing it, she is very attractive and initially was into him but when he told her a few weeks in that he wanted basically a one sided relationship, instead of dumping him, like most attractive women with options would, she recalibrated, was able to turn her feelings off for him and decided to go along because he was so generous with his money and had connections. I found it fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:33 AM
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At least you know it’s hypocritical. And I assume your main woman knows and is ok with this. I hope you are wearing condoms at least. It would suck if you gave her herpes from some random chick. It’s very rare for a woman to accept that. I knew one woman who did but she was just using him for his money anyway and didn’t care as long as his wallet stayed open and he used a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:14 PM
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Polygamy is illegal in many countries. Polygamy is one man with multiple wives. I don’t think polyamory is illegal unless there are multiple marriages. I think if people are happy doing it and it’s not hurting anyone then why care, but I also think most people aren’t wired for those kinds of relationships and that’s totally understandable. I don’t know if I’m wired that way. I’ve never been in a polyamorous relationship before but I can’t say that I wouldn’t like it unless I tried it I guess? I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:54 PM
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How about her sleeping with other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:39 PM
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But if a guy doesn’t feel that way and wants to be with more than one woman and the women are ok with it then who cares? I mean it’s not my thing personally but as long as everyone is on board and the women have the option to be with other people as well if they want and it makes them happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:38 PM
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Does your main woman sleep with men on the side? If not does she have that option if she chooses?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:30 PM
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I have an MSW but have dated a cop, a welder, and a construction worker. Being formally educated is not synonymous with intelligence nor positive personality traits nor does it mean the relationship will be better. It’s never been a dealbreaker for me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:59 AM
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I think women talk more and share more about what’s going on with them than men. That’s been my experience anyway. Part of that is complaining about relationships. I know women who complain about annoying things their husbands do and we kind of laugh about it with them but they are very devoted to their husbands and actually love them, it’s almost like banter more than anything really serious. I’m not saying that’s good because who wants to be complained about, I just notice that sometimes what …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:49 PM
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If I was a man who let my dick to all the thinking, then yes. If I was a man who wasn’t led by my dick, then no. The latter is rarer the former, and that’s why, imo, men actually put up with more shit from women than the other way around. The only women I see who put up with crap from men are women with low self esteem or women who are trapped in some way, such as financially. I have seen men who make far more than their girlfriends, no kids, no shared assets or anything really tethering him to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:47 PM
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I mean are you looking to reconsider your opinion based on the feedback you get here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:10 PM
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What is your point then? You asked if it would be a dealbreaker and the answer here is yes. Is the point to reconsider your opinion based on the opinions here (that you asked for) or it is to dig in and try to validate your opinion while also making digs at the country you decided to live in? If you don’t want to tip based on the cultural practice of where you were raised, then don’t go out to eat in places where tipping is the norm. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:45 PM
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Do you currently live where you were raised? I’m in Toronto, and we have a lot of South Asians here, in addition to many people from other cultures and many of those people tip according to Canadian social norms. This was my experience when I worked as a server and bartender, where many of my coworkers also came from other countries. Their base is min wage then tips on top of that. Min wage in Toronto doesn’t afford you your own apt. Many of the servers are students living with roommates living …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:05 PM
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Anything other than bad service is not a valid reason to tip poorly, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:44 PM
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It’s a major social faux pas here in Canada to tip poorly based on that logic, so I would cover the tip and/or pay for the meal myself. If I went on a date and he was paying for the meal but insisted on tipping poorly even if I offered to cover it I would cover it anyway and not go out with him again. Maybe it’s not in his culture to tip, but if he’s somewhere where it is the culture to tip, then tip accordingly, or don’t go to restaurants. I wouldn’t go to another country and do the opposite of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:09 PM
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As a woman I find that annoying as well. Anyone with zero insight into how their own decisions are causing their problems and then proceed to generalize a group of people and blame everyone but themselves are generally shit people to be around. This of course is not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 10:41 PM
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Not all women make bad decisions over and over, and the ones who do, don’t engage with them because it’s drama you don’t need, but they still have right to make the same bad decisions if that’s what they choose to do. Humans are going to human. All we can control is our own responses and actions. Having beef with it won’t change anything. Giving up is a good response if you don’t want to deal with the fall out of someone’s repeated bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:50 PM
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Yeah I think you’re right. Just looking at his post history he seems to have beef with women for being free to make their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:36 PM
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I’m assuming he means ridiculing them. But I don’t know women who do this if the guy approached and took a polite hint. It’s the guy who won’t take no for an answer and makes women feel uncomfortable that can lead to shaming but I don’t think women are out there en masse shaming men who aren’t being pushy and inappropriate in their approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:12 PM
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Are you asking all women, or the women who shame men for approaching? If the latter, maybe specify that in your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:07 PM
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I saw your post history. You have a pattern of posting crap and annoying people. You also don’t take accountability and want other men to also not take accountability. Of course, the men who want to blame everyone but themselves are agreeing with you, while the majority is calling out your bs. Most of your posts are about sex dolls with weird memes of who I assume to be you with sex dolls and comments about the body parts of sex dolls. Even in the sex doll community subreddits people are calling…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:00 AM
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I’m not saying it’s a big deal, it was already hard to take your post seriously because it’s actually insulting. It’s like back in the day when women were diagnosed with hysteria due to a roaming uterus. It’s almost sinister.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:03 PM
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I wasn’t referring to my situation. I don’t have this issue. But if I did, I can tell you that changing birth control pills won’t make me more attracted to a husband who doesn’t put any effort into the relationship no any effort into looking decent. If you had a girlfriend who gain 500lbs and stopped brushing her teeth, do you think testosterone therapy would increase your interest in her? Come on. I’m not saying that it’s never a factor, but it’s never the only factor. Sometimes couples just st…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:57 PM
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Check his post history. He also owns sex dolls. Which of course, don’t have hormone or thyroid issues at all. No shame in it, whatever makes ya happy, but really hard to take his post seriously when his relationship is with something that would melt near a heat source.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:32 PM
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“My husband no longer wants to go on dates and he stopped caring about his appearance. I’ve lost interest in him but I can be comforted in the fact that a different birth control method will solve this problem and reignite my interest in him because….. oh wait…”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:16 PM

The only good advice I see from her post is “you get what you give,” which applies to all genders. She contradicted that by first claiming that men give and women receive, then sort of clarified with points about not giving to men who give nothing to you. She then went full ego and entitlement with her whole thing about it being ok for women not to respond to texts and/ or leave on read, but not men, who she expects should respond immediately. This is obnoxious and, I would hope, a turn off for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 05:12 PM
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Wow….. this is a joke post right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:08 PM
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But if he’s telling me that he can’t be faithful, my decision to dump him will be based on that. The words that came out of his mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:05 PM
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Why bother with that kind of headache when there’s lots of other men who can stay faithful? You seem to forget that a lot of women have many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:36 PM
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The flaw here is you expecting her to stick around when you tell her that you won’t be faithful but you will be honest with her. It’s very unlikely a man will progress the relationship past that point because he will very likely get dumped. And if she doesn’t dump him? It’s because he has also given her a green light to fuck other men, he just didn’t have to say it verbally. So, good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:33 PM

Exactly. If you don’t have to work at it, some women won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:34 PM

This is what happens when so many men only value women for one thing. If you’re going to set the bar no higher than dick logic, don’t complain when she makes zero effort. People do what you let them do. Who follows random ‘models’ on Instagram? Mostly men. Who pays for ‘attention’ from half naked/ fully naked women on OF? Mostly men. Who is more likely to put up with a shit personality because boobs? Mostly men. Men, stop thinking with your dicks and maybe more women will would put in more effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:48 PM
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‘Victim of a manipulator’ Creepy……
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:06 PM

For unprotected sex I agree, don’t do it if you can’t handle the responsibility. For both men and women. This has been lectured to most of us when we were teens, and definitely broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 12:07 PM

This reads like a question from a time when birth control wasn’t a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:55 AM
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I understand men needing to stand up for their rights but why does this have to mean going against women’s rights? For example, we need more domestic violence shelters for men because men too are victims of intimate partner violence and should have access to the same kind of shelter available to abused women, but this doesn’t have to mean that men have to fight against women having these supports. There are many women only support services for everything from health and wellness to legal support…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:15 PM
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Constant generalizations huh? Your lack of self awareness is actually impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:45 PM
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Looking good and being fit definitely helps everyone no matter age or gender. Respectfully though, you’re not really ageing together if one of you has a 15+ year head start. Health issues and other age related matters occurred 15+ years ahead of your partner who is much younger. Not that it can’t work out but it really is not the same as when the couple is only a few years in age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:09 PM
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I think what happens varies depending on the situation. For the most part, I don’t see people caring about this when it’s two grown adults and it’s clear no one is taking advantage of the other. They may think it’s odd but not dwell on it. Some people connect even if there is an age gap. I know two couples like this and their relationship is no different than anyone else’s other than an age gap. Men who purposely go for much younger women in order to control/exploit them etc is what concerns peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:19 PM
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If a polite “No thanks, I’m not interested” was an acceptable response that didn’t require a justification, women wouldn’t even have to say they have a boyfriend, regardless of if they did or did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:03 PM

Abolished by who? Should dating and mate selection preferences have Hurt Feelings/ It’s Not Fair legislation? This is real life, people are free to want what they want, even if it’s not you or me. If you don’t like your odds with women making 80k a year, go for women making much less. The average salary in many parts of the world is much less than 80k. It can’t be that hard to find a woman who makes less than you unless you are actually unemployed. Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:49 PM
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In the past it wasn’t a decision they could easily make. There was an expectation that women got married and had kids. There was an expectation that men got married, had kids, and became the sole financial provider. It’s more socially acceptable now for both men and women to opt of marriage, kids, and being the sole financial provider. I’m a parent but at least half of my friends are not. It’s a thing now. So more men and women are doing just that. There’s still many more people who want to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:51 AM
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There are many examples of people who amass wealth that supersedes what trained professionals will ever make, yet contribute very little to society (ie most famous celebrities), should we make their work illegal too? I mean what are you most annoyed about, the fact that a group of people are making lots of money that doesn’t benefit society in any way? Or the fact that it’s women making lots of money by selling a sexual fantasy that doesn’t benefit you in any way? Would you prefer women to be fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:04 PM
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Having the same morals is important. The OP wrote that having the same morals and sex is all he wants from a relationship. He doesn’t seem to care if they share any interests or do activities together. My replies are in the context of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:10 PM
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To me it’s the bonding and intimacy you feel from shared experiences. Being open to another person as they are and wanting to have a life with that person. Do you have to do everything together? No, but you should have some similar interests so that you can keep dating each other after kids and other life responsibilities arise. It’s vitally important, imo, to continue to date no matter how long you’ve been together. Do fun things together, just the two of you. Having shared interests makes it e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:43 PM
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Well there’s your answer, you’re not looking for the companionship connection with a partner, just someone who has the same moral views as you and puts out. That’s fine, but don’t assume this is the bar for the rest of us. Some people here want more. I don’t need my husband to like all the things I like and I very much value having my own time to do my own thing, so I understand your point in that regard. But if the only thing we had in common was sex and the same morals, it would be a boring re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:24 PM
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I don’t categorize men in black and white terms like ‘alpha’ and ‘beta’ but if I’m in the presence of an attractive male I don’t give out a vibe anymore because I’m married but I will size him up when he’s not looking. For sure I will do that. When I was single I would actively listen to what he was saying so that I can insert myself into a dialogue with him. Make more eye contact, ask questions to keep the conversation going, smile more. And, of course, size him up when he’s not looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:33 PM
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Are you saying that the taxes that women pay, are separated out from the taxes that men pay, and purposely redistributed back to women with interest? Can you give an example of how all taxes paid by women are divided and distributed in that way, how it goes directly back to women and not men, if that’s what you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:02 PM
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That actually did happen to me before haha. I was surprised and thought maybe I said or did something that turned him off but he pretended to be into me because I was his ride home. I was bummed for about a half a day but then moved on. I mean, what could I do right? If he wasn’t feeling it he wasn’t feeling it. Honestly I would prefer that over a guy not really into me but using me for sex, then ghosting. That has happened to me before as well and it was a much shittier feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:56 PM
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Nope. I have seen many women from those cultures who are young, don’t have kids and are overweight. I think you are glamorizing traditional women while demonizing modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:36 PM
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Are you in Toronto? If so, you know dang well that there are lots of women here from traditional cultures from India, and muslim women who stay within their cultural traditions who are not at all slim. You know that if you live here lol. Come on, just walk through Gerrard St E or Thorncliffe Park. Are you are looking for a housewife who pops out kids at an earlier age? If so, then pay for that and stop complaining about women who want men who make as much or more. The fact is men are marrying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:18 PM
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What city? I’m from Canada too, and live in Toronto. In Toronto many women do want men who earn as much or more, especially women who earn well, and in this city there are many women who earn good money but it’s crazy expensive here. Making 100k a year doesn’t mean you can afford to buy even a condo. So I can see from that perspective why any woman who wants to have a decent quality of life for herself and her future kids will want a man who makes good money. I have friends in other provinces wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:52 PM
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Define significant amount? Most women I know make close to their partners and some make more. If what you are saying is true, why are these women with their current partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:36 PM
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Tate: ““If you put yourself in a position to be raped, you must bare some responsibility,” he said. “I’m not saying it’s OK you got raped. No woman should be abused regardless. However with sexual assault they want to put zero blame on the victim whatsoever.” Women: …… Tate: ““My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her, test if she’s quality, get her to fall in love with me to where she’d do anything I say, and then get her on webcam so we could become rich together,” Women:…… …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:13 AM
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I find that people who didn’t do much to maintain their physical health and appearance when younger are more likely not to when they get older, when it requires more effort to maintain your weight, and you really do have to juggle that in with your other responsibilities like job and family. Things like not wearing sunscreen, smoking, not making it a point to be active or really watch what you eat and still being able to look good due to being younger, but continuing with poor lifestyle choices …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:45 PM
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Are you saying that for women it’s not easy to lose weight due to juggling careers, family and a slower metabolism? If so, what is the fat man’s excuse? There are just as many fat men as there are fat women. Or do you mean for both genders it’s hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:55 PM

Life rafts. Cataract treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:42 PM
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Again. Situationship. Marriage, provision, children. Do you not see the difference??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:14 AM
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Right? If it’s a looks thing, that’s what fuckboys are for, why would we marry and financially support plus have kids with a man with multiple wives?? This is assbackwards logic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:12 AM
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You’re comparing the ‘polygamy’ that occurs in short term dating to marriage. It’s not even close to the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:01 AM
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You don’t know much about women, or relationships in general it seems. I get the impression that you took some extreme red pill rant that has no basis in reality and came up with a theory, equally not based in reality. When someone asked you for a source for your theory, you referenced a few subreddits, two of which are biased echo chamber red pill subreddits, then questioned the validity of a statistical source that was provided to you. Yes attraction is necessary but women aren’t more attracte…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:31 PM
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It’s related to the post because you are claiming women are more attracted to their husbands when they cheat and will have more sex with them, when cheating is actually more likely to lead to divorce. But you are right, that deadbedrooms are not good for relationships. It’s not always the man who has to deal with a dead bedroom either, as I’m sure you know if you visit the dead bedroom subreddit. I’m curious as to your suggestion for women who are in dead bedroom marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:59 PM
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This reads like you replaced a wild animal tribe with humans. But I imagine, in prehistoric times when humans were still covered in fur and hadn’t yet discovered fire, this probably was the strategy for spreading seed, evolutionary survival and all that. Millions of years to the present, men spreading their seed leave a wake of fatherless children and society doesn’t look favourably upon these kinds of men hence the term deadbeat dad, and wives are much more likely to dump cheating husbands beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:48 PM
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A man who is decent to other people ( not rude, arrogant, demeaning). However he has a backbone and won’t put up with bs from other people. Can consider perspectives other than his own. Doesn’t mean he has to accept it as his own perspective, but can respect that not everyone he meets is him. Not have a rigid opinion on everything. This one for me personally is important, I can’t tolerate small minded men or women. Has some ambition, doesn’t have to be sky high but is interested in pursuing self…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:08 PM
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Some women who make their own good money still expect their boyfriend/ husband to pay for all their dates. I never agreed with that. I can see how that would be a deterrent for a man to get into a ltr with a woman who expected that when she can afford to pay for things herself. If she has her own money treat him to dinner or something else he likes. From my experience men don’t get treated to anything very often and this gesture goes a long way to show that he means something to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:03 PM
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I don’t know any. Maybe it’s different where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:12 PM
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I understood it to mean that girls mature faster in puberty. Mentally I don’t see much of a difference either. It’s not been my experience that late teens early 20s women seek 30+ men so I can’t speak to that age bracket seeking older men because they think they are on the same maturity level. Women that age seem to seek men close to their own age from what I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:33 PM
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Sure. For anyone who’s thinking like that, my reply is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:05 AM
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All of those are goals to achieve when you actually love and invest in yourself, regardless of sex and relationships. You, and how you view yourself is your most important relationship and the one you and only you can nourish. Choosing not to improve because you think it’s just for someone else is a complete disregard for your own self. Like you’re a NPC in your own life. Why would you not want to self improve for your own benefit? Why are you neglecting yourself in that way? Being the best vers…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:05 PM

Interviewing a dog: “Can you give me an example of a time you implemented team collaboration to solve a problem at work?” “Woof!” “Excellent example. You’re hired! Oh, please don’t bite on the chair leg, let me get you a chew toy. Welcome to the team! I’ll have my Admin Assistant Shelley show you your office, and where we keep the pee pads. Don’t worry if you forget her name, I’m replacing her with a Dachshund next week.” :/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:36 PM
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So if your SAHM wife decides to dump you and take half and make sure you provide the same lifestyle you have been providing, you’re ok with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:25 PM
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Become one of those sad couples that eat in silence at restaurants. It’s so important to have something more than your kids in common. So many couples stop dating each other when they become parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:12 PM
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Having some common interests makes it more likely that you will do things together that are beyond the mundane aspects of relationships, like running errands and other responsibilities. It makes planning dates more likely, having nice conversations more likely, looking forward to seeing each other more likely, having a connection more likely, and seeing each other as more than a utility to each other more likely. It’s also important to have separate interests as well but you gotta have something…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:24 PM

I guess it depends on the girl? None of the women I know talk about these things. Well, prenups yes, because some women I know actually make alot of money and/ or have businesses pre marriage that they want to protect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:50 PM
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Rights that women had to advocate for. It’s not like men on their own out of no where decided that women should be able to vote, and legally made it so, for example. Accepting the consequences of her choice not to be assertive? Can we you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:30 AM
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You’re right that most guys won’t go that far. Most guys are decent imo. Most guys don’t push it when it’s clear she’s not interested. But honestly all it takes is one negative surprise to feel wary about most guys. Sometimes it can take a while for her to go back to feeling less apprehensive and more comfortable asserting herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:16 AM
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But when women do assert themselves with a ‘’No, not interested.” Some men here complain about our attitude. I mean we have literally had posts here asking why women can’t reject men more nicely. Why is a random stranger’s ego our responsibility? You talk about how women shouldn’t be completely alleviated from accountability but at the same time many men hold us accountable for rejecting them. There’s even a whole men’s group about this remember? So it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:07 AM
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I’m all for calling out misogynist views but I find misandry just as disgusting and don’t think it should be acceptable to convey in the mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:23 PM

Women in relationships also notice other men. Are you ok with your gf/wife casually flirting with those guys? If so, and she’s ok with you doing that, then it’s not a problem. However if this is a one way street and/or ‘women aren’t like men blah blah,’ then it’s just more of the hypocritical bs we see here. It’s totally natural to notice other people and find them attractive. However, there is no “need” to flirt with them. Porn is ok if it doesn’t negatively impact the sexual relationship you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:09 AM
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Women were literally killed for cheating back in the day in some countries, so I would say yes. For men, cheating seemed to be more tolerated by society in the past. Now it’s much less tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 05:37 PM

You know that all women are not the same right? I already stated that some women are like this. Yes, some women choose to base sexual decisions solely on superficial reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:54 AM

Yes some women are like that. Some men also date nasty attitude women because she passes the boner test, and put up with bs from girls just to get laid. Tolerating people for lust and superficial reasons is not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:09 AM
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Dating. Marriage and children. Different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 08:51 PM
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But there’s an excuse for following OF and Instagram models? Anyone who spends their time following celebs or models are probably lacking something in their personal lives and seek to fill a void with something that they may feel is safe. They may also enjoy fantasizing about them and their lives. It may be a distraction to their own lives. There’s many reasons that may seem valid to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:50 PM
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Read my other comment. It’s the behaviour that’s ick, imo, regardless of whether the person is famous or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:21 PM
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You’re right, female celebs don’t usually fuck their fans but male celebs do. I agree there’s an ick with women fangirling over celebs but I don’t see it being any more ick than men following Instagram models and commenting on their posts and trying to slide into their DMs. It’s the behaviour that’s ick, regardless of how famous or not famous the person is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:17 PM
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You’re right, I can’t name 10 OF girls because I don’t follow OF girls. That’s like being an avid book reader and asking someone who doesn’t read books if they know who the top 10 authors are right now. Again, come on…..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:12 PM
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And then there’s Only Fans and who’s paying for that? Also who follows Instagram models? Also who is more likely to follow porn stars? Come on…..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:39 AM
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Yes, if their standards are limited to attractive living fleshlights. Some men want more than that from a woman, genuine desire, love, and friendship for example. I don’t get the impression that you are interested in a genuine relationship where this is a mutual interest in being there for each other, making compromises for each other and sometimes not putting yourself first. That’s fine. But the leverage you keep referencing doesn’t exist in your situation because you are not looking for a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:37 PM
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The sex is instant. Prostitution isn’t a relationship. It’s a paid for sexual encounter by a woman who has many sexual encounters for money. Prostitutes don’t want to have relationships with their clients but they do want them to be regulars so they have steady pay. I think you are trying to draw similarities between paying for a woman to pretend to be into you vs mainstream dating and relationships where there is a genuine interest and yes, more work. If you don’t want to put in that effort, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:19 PM
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I don’t personally feel like I need to compete with the alternative that you describe, which is essentially a woman who will accept cash to pretend to be attracted to a man that she otherwise wouldn’t give the time of day. If I was with someone who sought fake love over real love, I would let him go pay for the fake stuff as a single man. I also cringe at the whole concept of dependent women = more access for men. Like imagine having to create a dependency on you just for her to stick around. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:27 PM
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I care more about intentionally dating a younger person to try to control/abuse/exploit/ take advantage of them due to their age and inexperience. If someone is legally dating a younger person because they click and the person just happens to be younger, I don’t care. I don’t even care if someone legally dates younger because they prefer the physical appearance of younger partners. If they’re going to treat that person with respect, be considerate, love them and basically be a good partner to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:50 AM
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I think this is a good point, what we do with this information. Some women, in particular those of us who banked all of their self worth on their youth and looks, will have a harder time with aging and not being the hot 25 yr old they once were, vs women who valued more then their youth and looks and used other aspects of themselves to get what they wanted in life. We all know a young hot 25 yr old is going be sexually desired by men of all ages. Most women don’t despair over this, it’s actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:28 PM
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I’ll take being extra careful vs being dead, thanks anyway. You should read the book The Gift of Fear. It talks about women going with their gut feelings vs letting someone shame them for being cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:25 PM
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It’s not just women who worry about this OP. It’s also their fathers, brothers, partners. Many men worry about this for their female loved ones just as much or even more. Women being cautious about their safety has been a thing since time. Most serial killers target women, most domestic violence murder victims are women. And we’re not even touching the topic of rape here… It’s ok if you don’t understand it, you don’t have to. Women and their loved ones will continue to worry about this and most …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:34 AM
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Soothing sounds? Like gentle rain and smooth jazz?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 09:57 PM
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No. I’ve never felt that way and I have been and am currently in love. I’m not comfortable asking for help so I actually prefer to rely on myself for most things. I’m very affectionate with my partner and love him though, I just don’t rely on him for most things. I like having space and time to myself away from my partner. Once a week to go off and do my own thing for a few hours. A bit of time on my own in the evenings to chill. It actually makes me enjoy his company more. He’s the same way so …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:13 AM
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Guy 1: ER Resident. He kept talking about his ex, who dumped him. He clearly was not over her. Guy 2: Lawyer. He lived at home with his mom who once called him while we were on a date (he had her on speaker) to ask what he wanted her to do with his dried laundry, did he want her to iron his work clothes. He said yes and then asked if she would make him a sandwich for his work lunch tomorrow. He didn’t even say thank you. Guy 3: Cop. Bad hygiene. Guy 4: Electrician. First date went well. Second d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:03 PM
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This works both ways. Dead bedroom? Too bad. Wife cheats but you can’t prove it? Too bad. Think about what you are proposing. There are men who don’t want to be stuck with crappy wives just as there are women who don’t want to be stuck with crappy husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:15 AM
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Like clockwork, this topic lol. I don’t see this being difficult for most women to accept. I think most women know that younger women are seen as more attractive. I don’t think most older women are struggling with this, to be honest. I think most women just try to make the best of their lives. I mean, youth is a small fraction of our entire lives. Being hung up on something as fleeting as how hot one looked in their 20s is sad, for men and women. That’s not to say that we shouldn’t make an effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:22 PM
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Anyone can claim they are ‘the prize’, but the market determines that, not them. I don’t see lots of women vying for the affections of older men so I’m going to have to say no to that theory. That’s not to say these older men are left out. I’m just not seeing women making more of an effort to be with them, and I don’t see women seeing older men, or men general for that matter, as the prize. Not saying men are less than, just saying I’m not seeing women see men in this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:58 PM
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I get the impression that you don’t want to date breadwinner women. That’s cool, don’t. There’s lots of women who prefer men to make more money than them, there are women who prefer to rely financially on men too. If you making more than her is that important to you, go find woman who makes less. I don’t understand the hate on breadwinner women who you don’t want to date anyway. You’re here calling them trans because they make alot of money, or more money than you. You’re here saying women shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:22 AM
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This reminds me of when Roosh V became religious and renounced PUA. Many of his followers did the same. Of course, that in and of itself was hilarious considering all of their talk about men being leaders and not followers, and women being like sheep. I guess changing your dating strategy 180 degrees because a PUA guru found god is not being a follower :/. I occasionally read posts from his new forum and it was pathetic. Aging men who spent the last 20 years fucking everything they could, teachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:47 PM
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I agree with this. It’s not my cup of tea to play a submissive role, personally, but for any woman that wants to, the man has to have his shjt together as someone who can actually effectively lead, and simply having a penis doesn’t automatically qualify them as a leader. One of my friends was married to a man who considered himself a leader because he’s a man. So he didn’t do jack squat around the house or do any real childcare and she had to do all of that. Book all doctors appointments, arrang…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:02 PM
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No one wants that. Women want a man to be her peace as well. No one wants to be with someone who just depletes them. I think we can call agree that we prefer partners who don’t drain us lol. Woman are no more likely to do that than men are. I really don’t see the this as specific to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:50 PM
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Which illustrates my point doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:16 PM
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And many men aren’t ready to hear that either. That’s not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:59 PM
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No one wants someone nagging who makes it more difficult, but no one wants to be a NPC character in their own relationship either. If one person wants to run the relationship based on what they want, then they are not looking for a relationship, they are looking for a helpmeet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:54 PM
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A woman can want her man to be strong etc without trying to boss him around. A man can be strong etc without expecting submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:46 PM
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No, but I think standard DNA testing at birth should be implemented so couples can make a decision before the children get stuck in a shitty situation down the road. Imagine being raised by a man who you thought was your father and him potentially cutting you out of his life when he realized you were not his biological child. I think if a woman suspects her baby may not be her partner’s, she is doing her child harm by purposefully keeping that from him. I mean shit happens too, where couples bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:30 PM
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There is no guarantee she won’t fantasize and even if she says she’s not, there’s no way you could know for sure that she isn’t. You can’t control people’s thoughts. I understand not wanting to get hurt by someone in a relationship, but I get the impression that you want a relationship with an outcome that you can control, based on fear and self preservation. This is not a healthy way to enter a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:04 PM
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She may or may not cheat, just like a guy may or may not cheat in the same scenario where he met a ‘better’ woman who liked him back. Men and women who have good characters, love their partners, have a healthy relationship that they value and have impulse control are probably less likely to cheat with someone who is ‘better’. I put ‘better’ in quotations because better usually means something new, shiny and exciting, and anyone with enough relationship experience knows that those newness feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:48 PM
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99.9% of men I know wouldn’t make it past 3 days of sleeping rough in a park. Having a penis doesn’t give someone biological abilities to create a small settlement in the wilderness. You have to have actual survival skills, know how to make shelter, know how to kill and skin deer, know how to tell the difference between poisonous berries and mushrooms etc. know how to do first aid with only the wilderness as your supplies. Men aren’t born with that. Your theory only works if those men have those…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:05 PM
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Most women don’t tolerate it for a time. You are generalizing quite a bit here. All are men the same? No. Neither are all women. These bad faith posts are getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:08 PM
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I personally don’t know any women in general who prefer this. Sounds like something specific to particular types of women, like gold diggers or women who hang around NBA players or other types of males with high status. Women in general don’t fall into that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:58 PM
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Most women aren’t holding out for the top 1% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:56 PM

Yes I agree, I also work with homeless people. But we don’t tell them their decisions are stupid right? That’s not an approach endorsed by any therapeutic modality that I’m aware of. We can advise people to give someone a chance if they are not sure, “hey, maybe go for coffee with him if you’re not sure and see how it goes, and then if you’re really not feeling it then don’t go out with him again”. Vs “You should date him because he likes you and it could turn into something more with time, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:40 PM

As someone who works in addictions, I can tell you with 100% certainty that being vocal about how stupid unwise decisions are is about as effective as spitting on a house fire. People are going to do what they do. Hopefully, experiential learning motivates them to make better choices. I also don’t consider exercising the right not to sleep with someone you don’t want to an unwise decision, bringing it back to the OP’s point about how women should be with men they don’t want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:25 PM

Your reply is nothing but feelings. I’m not asking anyone to feel sorry for me. Not sure where you’re getting that from. I’m trying to make a point. You’re reacting and calling me names. Chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:20 PM

Yes they do have that right. People have a right to choose, period. Even if the choice is not the wisest choice nor makes sense to others, nor aligns with the values of others. This is my point. Let people be, it’s on them if an unwise choice doesn’t work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:15 PM

Right. Why don’t I go out and find a physically unattractive yet nice woman and try to shame you into dating her. Would you like that? Princess?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:13 PM

Good for you, but just because you invested in someone you didn’t want to date doesn’t mean other people should if they don’t want to. It’s their choice. I’m not saying no one should ever date someone who isn’t Prince Charming and I acknowledge that some women have sky high standards, but no one should feel shamed because they don’t want to date a guy who they not attracted to. Dating is messy and not necessarily fair. There’s nothing more annoying in the dating pool then people trying to get yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:44 PM

Ok, so men should follow suit and do the same, date women they actually don’t want to date. If she’s overweight and you don’t like overweight women, don’t wait for her to get fit, just date her right then and there. Does this make sense to you? Dating women you don’t want? Because reverse the genders and this is exactly what you are saying women should do. Well, we aren’t going to do that, just like you aren’t going to date a woman you don’t want to date and would probably not appreciate someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:14 PM
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But you just gave us your solution, you’re going to lie about your age and when that no longer works you’ll become a passport bro. Not sure what other solutions you are looking for. Women aren’t going to change their dating preferences/ habits to accommodate you, and why should they.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:00 PM
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So you took advice from a women hating man who pays models to photograph with him at public events and who has four failed marriages. I think you may want to look for a better mentor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 12:10 PM
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I think one of the most common reasons young women shy away from marriage and children is a flat out lack of interest at that stage of their lives to take on the responsibility of another human being. I think it’s the same for young men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:11 PM
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I think as we get older and have more priorities, responsibilities and interests outside of dating, most of us are unwilling to break our necks and jump through hoops to accommodate anyone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:43 PM
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Everyone knows that men are attracted young fit women in their 20s. But most young fit women in their 20s are not attracted to men in their 40s, so it’s not really an issue for most women in their 30s+. It’s only an issue if they are competing for a man in his 40s who can easily attract young women in their 20s. Most men that age can’t and those men date other women they find attractive who are closer to their own age. Because its not like men decide to not date if they can’t, at 40, get a 25 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:18 PM
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I think it depends on their motivation behind wanting a SAHM. If they really want to provide for their family with the arrangement being he works and she takes care of the kids and home, and it’s a team approach where there is a mutual respect and appreciation for working together on a common goal of what they want their family life to be like, with each having a say, that’s different. If she’s just lazy and wants someone else to pay the bills and fund her lifestyle, or he is one of those men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:30 PM
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Yeah, it’s ok to warn them, but there’s a balance between warning them and fear mongering. I see alot of the latter happen on RP sites. Like lord forbid she actually wants to be in a committed relationship. Not all woman who actually want a long term relationship and kids is settling for someone she’s not really into. I’ve seen posts where a rp guy second guesses the intentions of a girl he’s dating because she ‘gasps’ wants to have an exclusive relationship with him. It’s like if she only wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:18 AM
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This is a good point. It’s not like artificial wombs will only be available for men. I can totally see many women opting for this over natural pregnancy for a variety of reasons, including convenience. Want a baby but don’t want to gain 40 lbs and deal with stretch marks and postpartum depression? We have a solution for you! The men who think this will be a threat to women are not looking at the bigger picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:05 AM

Abortion vending machines on every corner. Now we’re talking some serious futuristic technology. Not sure what you’re smoking but I want some.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:26 PM

I don’t think you understand the concept of rape. Or what rapists’ intentions are. Procreation is not why they rape women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:21 PM

Exactly. Rapists don’t base their decision to rape on whether or not the victim will be saddled with a child for which she is refused a subsidy. Wtf lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:08 PM

How does not giving subsidies to rape victims for kids conceived from rape discourage rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:55 PM
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I agree with this. It’s more attractive when men have stuff going on outside of women. I think both men and women need to have other interests and passions outside of their partners. Being someone’s all is mentally and emotionally draining. I don’t however think this is limited to nice guys, as I have seen total aholes expect unwavering attention and focus from their partners who they expected to be their source of happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:24 PM
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Yes, so many celebs of all genders marry and divorce. My point is that high income does not have negative correlation with physical attractiveness, which your op seems to imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:15 AM
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TIL that women can’t be attractive AND earn a high income at the same time :/. Guess all those high earning super models and millionaire actresses are ugly AF huh? I’m talking to you Margot Robbie :/. These posts…..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:05 PM
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I would think it depends on where you live and your income relative to your competition and the income of the women you are trying to date. Just remember that attraction to what a guy has (ie wealth) is not the same as physical attraction. If you are leading with your money and status and you get a girl who otherwise wouldn’t give you the time of day, you are literally one much richer guy or one slightly less richer but better looking guy away from getting dumped. You’re also at risk of being ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:32 AM

I can only speak for myself: by sexually objectifying him. I’ve only done this arrangement once though so I don’t know, maybe it was a fluke.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:24 PM
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Maybe women generally have more preferences when it comes to a relationship? I know for me, when I was dating with the intention of finding a life partner I was looking for several things as a opposed to a casual hook up where I cared less because I wasn’t going to make any kind of emotional nor long term investment. Personally, I think men looking for life partners should also have more preferences. The bar should be higher when more of an investment is being considered. However, I acknowledge …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:22 PM
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I can’t speak for all women. I’m also not American. Personally I’m not into body builder type bodies. A guy who doesn’t have a big round gut. He doesn’t need a six pack but not be flabby and out of shape basically. Some muscle definition. A few pounds overweight is fine if he carries it well. Taller broader men do tend to carry a bit of extra weight better than slender/ shorter men. This is NOT to say that slender/ shorter men are unattractive, it’s just in their best interests not to gain weigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:22 PM
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I don’t think it’s that women can’t articulate what they find attractive in men. I think it’s that some men don’t like the answers. This sub is a perfect illustration of this. We have said time and again that looks are important and we get shit on by some men here for having preferences for physical appearances (ie height). We have said time and again that a nice personality is important and we get shit on by some men here for not wanting to date a man with a nice personality who we don’t find p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:02 PM

Never said they weren’t human. Sex and her body type seem to be all you basically focused on so in that regard it looks superficial, and hypocritical as you are criticizing women here who you feel only focus on physical things like height rather than how nice a guy is. You keep pushing this height preference and trying to shame women but I’m sure if women shamed you for wanting a BJ x3 weekly/ sex daily deep throating swallowing young fertile woman with a BMI no higher than 25 you would be indig…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:48 PM

Deep throating = high value woman. Dude….. that’s every other female porn star lol. Look I get wanting to have a certain level of sexual satisfaction, but your list reads like a porn fan wish list. What if she doesn’t want to blow you three times a week? What if she doesn’t want to have sex daily? The fact that you see this sexually focused surface level list of criteria as perfectly rational while seeing a height preference as irrational and shallow is interesting. It makes it seem like your OP…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:01 PM

Just checked your post history. In another thread you listed the criteria for your partner which focuses primarily on sex, her physical shape and what she can do for you: You expect daily sex at least 90% of the time in the positions you want BJs at least three times a week Swallowing at least 90% of the time I recall a post where you wanted her to learn how to deep throat? Her to maintain a low BMI except for pre pregnancy and post pregnancy, within reason And here you are, criticizing women fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:25 PM

Everyone knows men like young hot fertile women no matter his age. The reality is that men date and marry women closer to their own age all the time despise this, so it’s not the exception to the rule when most couples are close in age. I think we can all agree that very fit attractive young women and young men are appealing on a physical level for sure ( yes, women of all ages like the look of young hot guys), but that doesn’t mean we don’t find ourselves attracted to people who don’t fit that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:00 PM

Most educated men I know in their 30s are with educated women close to the same age. A friend of mine who is 39 just got engaged to a tall educated guy she met about a year and a half ago and he’s 38. I think you need to lay off the generalizations and not make things personal, telling a poster that she’s basically out of luck because she missed her prime fertile years to find man. The woman said she purposely didn’t date for 9 years so I’m guessing she was not interested in getting pregnant dur…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:53 PM
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Depression is treated like a social issue. Source: someone who works in the mental health sector.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:16 PM
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Again, lots of assumptions here on an article that focuses on single women who spend money. Also, women are much more likely to seek help for mental health issues than men, hence, more women taking antidepressants. Men are more likely to commit suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:41 PM
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This article mentions nothing about these single women wanting to start families or being picky about partners. The article is essentially about how single women spend more and how that spending contributes to the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:30 PM
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Most women I know who make good money are with men who make the same or slightly more or slightly less. They’re not chasing way richer men. While women don’t want to be poor, not all women want the millionaire with the private yacht kind of lifestyle. It’s not like if she makes 150k her ideal partner has to make 250k, for example. You are making a lot of generalizations and assumptions here, also focusing on shallow/ surface level aspects of a relationship such as sex and money, while ignoring a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:19 PM
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I guess for women who don’t want to try to make their own money and would prefer to depend on a rich man to take care of her and offer her privileges and stability and she’s fine sharing that man then there’s a market for that I guess. However, the percentage of women who would do this is so small as not to be of any significance in the dating market. Many women just make their own money and create their own stability and privileges. Also, I would venture that the percentage of men who would wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:04 PM

What you are posting really does seem like sex work stuff to me. I’m not talking about the no fancy dinner stuff, but the ‘I open my wallet when she opens her legs’ thing. Maybe it’s just the way you worded it, it really sounds like something a sugar daddy would say. Also the hard rule about sex by date three and the not caring if she is manipulating you as long as you get sex from her. I’m not judging you for those things. You do you. I just don’t think that’s the best mindset/ advice for all g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:50 PM

I agree that a woman who is offended that a first date doesn’t involve something expensive like a fancy dinner is a red flag. The OP literally stated that he doesn’t open his wallet until she opens her legs. To me, that is also a red flag. And its very different than not wanting to break the bank on a first date. He posted in another subreddit that he is a passport bro and has lived in the Philippines. I think we need to factor that into his dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:28 PM

I’m with ya here. I don’t understand how some of the guys here don’t get that OP is giving dating advice in the context of sex tourism. Which is and always will be transactional. OP already stated that he doesn’t care if they are manipulating him as long as he gets sex. He’s literally telling us that he is paying for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:08 PM

I remember watching one of those sex tourist documentaries and one of the old guys basically said the same thing. Then I looked at your post history where you described yourself as a passport bro in his mid 50s. And now it makes sense. For sure, in a country where women are trying to con the old foreign men looking for sex you of course have to play that kind of game so you don’t feel like you are getting ripped off by paying for fancy dinners with no sex in return. I think your suggestion makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:55 PM
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I don’t equate confidence with domineering and controlling. I equate low confidence and low self esteem with those traits. Truly confident men don’t need to dominate nor control anyone. In my experience men who are truly confident tend to be more chill. While there can be a place for consensual dominance in the bedroom, which can attractive to some women, I don’t know many women who are attracted to men who have domineering and controlling personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 12:55 PM

Hear that ladies? Aren’t we lucky if we have a guy who will make the relationship better for us by fucking other women behind our backs? This is the answer. Cheating to keep the relationship beneficial for the one being cheated on. It’s really a selfless thing when you think about it. Anytime he thinks he is getting fat, lazy, and less charismatic, it negatively impacts his partner, so of course, the ONLY WAY to fix that is to cheat. Makes total sense right? :/. Jesus H Christ today…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:31 PM
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He could be the nicest guy with an awesome personality, but if there’s nothing about him that I found physically attractive then I would not be drawn to him in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:17 AM
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Because most of those men want a one sided open relationship or a relationship where their girl only sleeps with other girls and involves him in it. Cake and eat it too kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:10 AM
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Many of these red pillers romanticize how the women were back then. They themselves are not interested in being traditional men who provide, they just want the woman to be traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:22 AM
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I don’t know, making a list of things you want someone to change about themselves is communicating something yes, but I don’t know if that’s good communication if all of those were things you knew about when you started dating them. He did state his boundaries though so that’s good. But again, I just think maybe not date a model if you don’t want to date models. At the end of the day, he stated what would work for him, she decided not to change in order to continue the relationship, and they bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:03 PM
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Yeah that’s a good point honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:58 PM
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I didn’t say anywhere that it was controlling. I have stated more than once that he made the right decision by not wanting to be in a relationship with someone whose lifestyle he was uncomfortable with. You are right that being ok with something in theory is different than being ok with it in practice. There is when you say, ‘hey, this didn’t working for me all the best’. And move on, rather then telling them that this is what you need them to change about themselves including changing career ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:56 PM
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Again. Thirst traps can make them money. There is a business aspect to this. That said, if I was a guy, personally I would avoid women who were doing this, rather than date them and then ask them to stop. If I slide into the DMs of a woman posting bikini pics for the purpose of trying to date her, I know full well know what I’m getting myself into. As a woman, I would avoid men who engage with women posting thirst traps, rather than date them then ask them to stop. We all have a choice. Trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:13 PM
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That is not what I’m saying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:24 PM
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Everyone should have dealbreakers and he did and he ended things. Do we know for a fact that she cheated though? I’m not arguing that he should have accepted her and stayed. But the list of what he wanted her to change in order to stay with her, I mean, if you have to make a list, that’s when you just end it and move on. Trying to change people is counterproductive. Like I said I think they are both cringe. Him for that list and her for posting it publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:04 PM
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He gave her an ultimatum. He wanted her to change things about herself in order to continue the relationship. She choose not to and the relationship ended. You’re right, you shouldn’t have to accept someone as they currently are for the rest of time. I don’t think anyone here is suggesting that he had to. But he knew going in this is who she was. If he changed how he felt about that he should of just ended it rather than give her a list of what to change about herself in order to continue the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:47 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:35 PM
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I agree that acting single while in a monogamous relationship is not ok. Was she acting single though? Was she on Tinder? Was she actively looking to fuck other men? There are lots of models on Instagram, top models and lesser known models who are in relationships but still post thirst traps. Its a business. Most of these models have zero intention of meeting the guys who drool and comment over her posts. They help her make money. It’s like shooting fish in a bucket, posting thirst traps to incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:34 PM
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Like I said she is probably looking for attention. I think they are both cringe to be honest. But my statement about going in knowing what she was like then whining about it after is valid. He should just not have dated her at all if he had a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:29 PM
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Instagram is an app where people can make money posting pics and videos. While people do meet and date each other from the app, it’s not Tinder. It’s also no surprise to anyone that some attractive women are taking advantage of the fact that thirst traps attract (usually male) followers, which increases her follower numbers, which can attract advertisers to her account, which leads to making money. If a woman is posting thirst traps on Instagram and this bothers a guy who is interested, he shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:25 PM
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I think if she was doing it before they met and he knew that when he CHOSE to date her then yes. Otherwise, why is he dating her if she’s doing something he doesn’t like? How it is that different than meeting a girl who dresses half naked, choosing to date her, then wanting her to change how she dresses? Have standards, but don’t date women who don’t meet them then complain about it. Date women who meet those standards. It’s not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:16 PM
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He was well aware of those thirst traps when he met her. He shouldn’t have dated her at all if he had such an issue with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:54 AM
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Yeah its questionable why she brought this up post break up. Does seem attention grabbing. But at the same time why did he date someone who from the start, didn’t meet these standards he wanted? She was already modelling in swimsuits when he met her. She wasn’t hiding her lifestyle from him. If it was that important to him then he shouldn’t have dated her at all. But let’s be real, he was attracted to what she was putting out there. It’s like a guy being attracted to a lingerie model, meeting he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:31 AM
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I always offered to split the bill on first dates regardless of if they accepted my offer or not. As soon as the bill comes I offered. If they were going to suggest splitting the bill, I wouldn’t know because I always offered. It just made it easier to do it that way. If they didn’t take me up on my offer and paid the whole bill and I liked them, I would thank them and say “next one’s on me.” If I didn’t like them, I would not see them again but they could never say I was just in it for a free m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:29 AM
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I agree. If you only have one person in your life, then you are literally one person away from having no one if that person leaves or dies. I don’t think you need a big group of friends though. Having a 1-3 close friends is important for mental health. Even if you can’t see them weekly, but can check in, meet up when you can, etc. it’s important. Also, having your own hobbies. Being someone’s only source of companionship in a relationship is draining on most people, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:38 PM
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I think it’s powerful in the sense that some women are attracted to how his status can benefit her. I don’t think that people deny that status is attractive, I think most people recognize that being attracted to his status doesn’t necessarily mean she’s physically attracted to him, or even likes him. Women who flock to athletes who cheat are attracted to his status and money, they don’t much care for the man, just what his position can do for her. She may not care if he’s fucking around as long …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:21 PM
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Female here: I don’t think that typically a 6/10 woman thinks her high end career will bump her up to an 8/10, this is more what a man would typically believe and use that to attract women who want men with high end careers. I think most women know that it’s their looks plus personality and their career isn’t going to bump them up that far in terms of dating attractiveness. I personally know a lot of educated women with good careers who don’t think their degree or job title will land them men. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:02 PM
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I don’t find it disgusting that unattractive men want to date. I do find it disgusting when unattractive men, who make zero effort to improve anything about themselves, want to date women way out of their league while judging, ridiculing, and insulting women who don’t fit the mold of the ideal 10/10 girlfriend and blame society and feminism for their inability to get a hot girl. Yes women enjoy sex. Yes looks matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:10 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:18 AM
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I don’t believe taking dating choices away from consenting adults is a good thing to have in society. What is better is to teach women what red flags to look out for regarding older men who want to date younger women for nefarious reasons, and to avoid those kinds of men. That’s not to say that all men who date younger women are bad, but the ones who specially target younger women for nefarious reasons should be avoided. Education around such men is key. I also don’t think this is something that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:14 PM
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True, different criteria depending on the kind of relationship. So if you don’t want your money to factor into your long term traditional relationship with a traditional submissive woman, then I assume that woman would be working and contributing financially then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:36 PM
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Are we? Not if we are attracted to the guy, which, getting in shape and looking good helps. You do realize that women also like sex from guys they find hot right? If a guy asks us out on a date we know from that point on that sex is on the back of their mind and some of their behaviour is to get it. I mean, we also do things to attract men. Guess what? Sex will be on the back of our minds too if we like the guy. Again, nothing ground breaking here. This is dating 101. If you are finding that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:14 PM
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But, you are cool with anything fake. That’s the essence of your original post, you being the fake person. You also imply that you are ok with her being fake as long as you never find out. Even if you never find out, you are acknowledging that you’re cool with that because ignorance is bliss. And honey, if you want a traditional submissive woman, you absolutely will have to lead with your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:03 PM
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But, we already know that it’s also to get sex. Women make an effort to look good to, also to attract men. It’s called the dating pool. It’s good that you are into fitness and want to look good to get laid, but you’re not dropping ground breaking or even original theory here. People have been doing this since time, way before the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:43 PM
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If you don’t care that she’s faking it as long as you get what you want from her, there’s tons of young pretty women from third world countries looking for a green card. Many would happily play the role you want in exchange for a nice home and access to your money. An upfront arrangement based on mutually agreed upon terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:26 PM
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Whose to say this submissive woman wasn’t playing the same lying game as you? Like tends to attract like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:43 PM
11

If I was a guy, a red pilled guy, and had to make that much of an effort to hide it, I wouldn’t even bother dating for the exhaustion of having to curate an image of myself as not red pill, and maintain that for god knows how long. I got tired just reading your fitness conversation scenario. What happens if someone goes off script? Do you memorize back up responses? Humans are unpredictable. Maybe just find a girl who likes red pills guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:33 PM
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Yes. I acknowledge that men were more brave (well, some men). Men were allowed to be brave and stand up and fight. Women weren’t and while many women probably didn’t want to anyway, many men also didn’t want to, but had to and were shamed, or in some cases, criminally punished, for not fighting. I totally acknowledge that there have been some great male leaders in history who have been and continue to be inspiring. I’m saying that historically, societal norms prevented women from showing that ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:10 PM
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Historically men have been given more opportunities than women to be leaders. So naturally, there would be more male leaders because of that. If we think of the past, most women were excluded from non leadership opportunities and instead limited to domestic and supportive roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:53 AM
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I agree that a true leader is open to advice. From my experience though, guys who think that simply being male makes them a leader tend to have the characteristics that you described ie arrogance, not taking advice. When you say men make better leaders, I don’t agree. I don’t think a good leader depends on gender at all. I’ve meet some great male and female leaders and some horrible male and female leaders. For many people, there’s an ego at play and the leadership isn’t about inspiring, looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:40 AM
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A guy could be very masculine but bad with money or can’t make solid life decisions. I know a guy who ran his family into debt due to his gambling addiction and he was very masculine. Another masculine guy had to file for bankruptcy due to a series of bad business decisions that could have been prevented if he took the advice of people who knew more about those businesses then him. It caused a lot of hardship with his family. Being a good leader is much much more than having a dick and being mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:24 AM
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I would be surprised if he didn’t expect it. Most adults who live together split some expenses, regardless if they are roommates or a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 10:17 AM

“People like you are why marriage is a dead concept.” That’s personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:32 PM

Never said she was perfect. But to do what he did to her in that video is vile. He went off on her for needing the car to get their dog’s medication because he didn’t want to be without a car in case he wanted to go to the gym or see his parents. So why didn’t he get up off his ass and get the dog’s medicine himself then? He picked something benign and went on a control freak rant with gaslighting and demanding respect while showing her the complete opposite. No one should have put up with that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:43 AM

Did Crowder respond to the ring cam video by admitting he fucked up and was having bad day? Or did he whine about women being able to divorce without their husband’s consent and in no way acknowledge his vile behaviour to her? That’s where we see the true colours of this shit stain. Given what’s come out about his behaviour, I seriously doubt this was a one time thing. Also, the way she reacted was like someone who was worn down by her shit husband’s emotional abuse. If that was a one time thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:19 AM
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I don’t see lots of women following a philosophy that aims to put in them a position that has little to no benefit to them. Men are also followers for the most part. It’s of course easier for them to follow something that is sold to benefit them, just like it’s easier for women to do the same. Human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:02 PM
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But is there a correlation between number of subscribers/ followers vs actual real life change? Out spoken, shock value snake oil selling types tend to do well because they know how to feed into their audience’s perspective. They will give advice on self improvement, but the real selling point is endorsing what many of these guys already think about women, imo. A lot of these guys will happily swim around the echo chamber but won’t actually do the real work of improving themselves in order to at…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:56 PM
1

I’m sure there are women who are unknowingly sharing a Chad, but the topic is knowingly and willingly sharing and that I have never seen in real life. Maybe it’s more common where you live. In the places I have lived I’ve never seen this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:19 PM
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Where are you getting this info from? Agreeing to open sex means agreeing not to be monogamous, she sleeps with whoever and he sleeps with whoever. Polygyny means one man married to more than one woman where the women are not allowed to sleep with any other men. I don’t think that most women who are into open sex are intending to sleep with just the one guy. Open usually means having the freedom to fuck other men. It’s kind of the whole point of open sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 10:06 PM
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What women here are often claiming that they will happily share a Chad? I only ever saw men claiming this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:56 PM

As a Catholic, I never understood why leaders with zero experience in raising families gave advice on family matters. I disagree that being at home with kids is what makes women the happiest. It’s having the ability to choose how to live her life, whether that’s being a stay at home mom or a CEO with no kids, or a CEO with kids, or an artist who travels the world painting landscapes, or living in an RV with her family driving from state to state and homeschooling. It’s the freedom to choose, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:45 PM
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You didn’t specify some women. For example, you wrote “A woman with a low body count has standards”. You didn’t write “Some women with a low body count have standards.” For some women, they don’t like sex so it’s not necessarily about having standards (ie not sleeping with random guys), it’s about not wanting to be sexual at all. So I can see how some people may feel you are generalizing, my response was in the context of that which I don’t feel was disingenuous. I wouldn’t even say that the maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:50 PM
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Or, she doesn’t actually like sex. Your example represents some women with a low body count but not all. This is why it’s important to consider the whole person and not just the low body count. Having a low body count does not guarantee that she will be a good partner, just like having a high body count does not guarantee she will be a bad partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:38 PM
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I have a hard time believing anyone who claims to be hot if they post anonymously online with no pics of themselves. It’s very easy to curate a persona when there’s no way anyone can prove you wrong. There was a guy who posted about his harem of women all over the world who were devoted to only him which he ‘knew’ for a fact they were even though he only saw these women a few times a year, because he was that much of a player :/ Also, I don’t think a man’s physical attractiveness in any way rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:52 PM
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Exactly. Lots of women date guys who aren’t really tall. The problem is when men and women generalize an entire gender based on their dating experiences or worse, the experiences posted by anonymous people online.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:50 PM
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Yeah these women whose twitters you posted don’t represent all women. If my husband was drowning I certainly wouldn’t be cringing at that. Not all women are that shallow and low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:37 PM
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If guys want to go there to get female attention I don’t necessarily consider that predatory (unless they are specifically looking for minors), but I’m not sure what perspective this changes for them. You really can’t compare female affection in the context of prostitution to female affection in the context of genuine desire. Of course, a woman who is trying to sell sex is going to be more chill and happy with a potential customer. The literal goal is to give him a positive experience so he open…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:43 PM
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I’m all for great make up tips but if you look totally different than with no make up, then you’re doing it wrong. Also, many of these online tutorials use filters and lighting to enhance the look. Humans have pores.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:09 PM
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Between men never consenting to be fathers and mothers being widowed, there’s a range of situations that you missed. Divorce where the father walks away from raising his kids for example. This is why the red pill needs to stop this nonsense. It goes from women who purposely chose to have kids with men who didn’t want any, straight to widows who through no fault of their own are single moms due to sad tragedies. No consideration of anything in between. I’m not here saying men should have relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:12 PM
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I agree that boys need men in their lives. So where are these fathers of these boys who are being raised by single mothers? The problem with how the red pill approaches this is that they paint all single mothers with the same brush. Some single mothers are not single mothers by choice. Some fathers walk away or do the bare minimum, but the red pill glosses over this part or blames the mother for choosing bad men. Ok, even if she did choose a bad man, does this solve the issue of no good male fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:24 PM
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I don’t masturbate to money so it’s not a turn on for me personally. Being rich isn’t the same as being sexually desired. That’s not to say it doesn’t make him more attractive, but there’s different kinds of attraction, and not necessarily sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:45 PM
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If you can respect your icks without disrespecting other people, I’m cool with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 08:57 PM
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No where did I say it was so bad to have children, but some people can and do regret it. I know women who do. It’s just as sad, if not sadder, than a woman who waited too long and now is struggling. Yeah I think you are just focusing on the economic part of it. I too, didn’t see the whole picture before I became a Mom. There’s so much that goes into raising a child and your life and identity changes. Being responsible for the health, safety, mental well-being, character development, and personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:54 PM
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You answered your own question. Women are the ones who bear the brunt of pregnancy and child rearing. So it’s not a decision to make lightly. Also, most young men (you know, the men young women usually date) are not interested in being fathers in their 20’s so there’s that. Those men won’t be sold on some pitch that they should be fathers because the woman should have kids now rafter than later. Also, Autism and other developmental issues are also associated with advanced paternal age. I agree t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:31 PM
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Well it should be the same for men as it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 10:26 PM
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I don’t know. I don’t know the details of International Women’s Day, just a general idea of what it’s supposed to be about. I don’t plan my year around it. If you want to know more about it, look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:56 PM
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Yeah they celebrate the achievements of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:23 PM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:22 PM
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Ideally, it should highlight men who have made positive contributions to their communities, praise men who have made a difference for the better, past or present. Focus on role models and value and not on what men have done wrong because that defeats the whole propose of the day. I don’t have to be a man to recognize that there are really good men out there. In Canada we also have a Men’s Mental Health Awareness Day that focuses on mental health issues for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:59 PM
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I know two female feminist social workers who helped start a support group for men experiencing domestic violence. I was invited by the group to sit in on a session. One of the guys called his buddy in the middle of the night to ask if he could spend the night at his place because his gf threw a chair at him. His buddy let him sleep over but thought it was funny. The group shared the lack of sympathy they got from their male family members and friends and how it would have been a much different …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:12 AM
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💯 agree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 01:02 AM
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Many red pill men. OP referred specifically to men in the manosphere and that’s who I’m referring to as well. Those specific men who want trad wives but have no intention of being trad men (ie providing, being a family oriented man, possibly being religious).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:54 PM
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I never implied I know what most guys want. I’m referring specifically to what I have read here and on the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 05:04 PM
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Personally I’m not into traditional gender roles, so the ideal is not something that I can define as it’s not a personal preference. However if traditional roles works for others that’s awesome. What I see as traditional gender roles is the husband working and providing for the family while the wife stays at home and cares for the home and children. But both parents are emotionally investing in the children and each other, and this arrangement is mutually beneficial for each person who shares th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:11 PM
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Fair point. I posted earlier about men wanting traditional women when they themselves aren’t traditional, but it goes both ways. Basically, if you want a traditional partner, be a traditional partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:02 PM
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Most of those guys typically want traditional submissive women but they themselves have zero interest in being traditional provider men, then blame women for not wanting to sign up for a one sided relationship that has zero benefit to them. Like sure, “I’ll forego a career and my own independence, and pop out babies and be a bang maid while he runs alpha red pill dread game crap on me, and makes sure I have nothing if I want to leave him.” Said no woman with two brain cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:14 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with you. This is your preference. It’s fine. For all the talk from the red pill about being their own individual selves and not ‘following the herd like women with their herd mentality’, they certainly ridicule any man whose attraction to women doesn’t fit into a singular narrow view of what they expect ALL men are supposed to find attractive, to the point where some of them make excuses to these random online strangers on why they are dating a woman who falls outside of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 07:26 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with age gap relationships, casual or otherwise where there’s mutual respect and no predatory deception/ manipulation based on age from both people, ie young women targeting older men to financially exploit/ older men who target young women to control. Sugar arrangements excluded because those situations are upfront from the start. It’s when men specifically say they want younger women because (aside from the obvious physical appeal), they want someone they think is trainab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:05 PM
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You don’t speak for all men. You also are not speaking from facts either, as others here are pointing out. If you don’t want kids, don’t have kids. But don’t act like society in general and women in particular are deterring men from having kids. You personally don’t want them, and your reasons are your personal reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:39 PM

Yea the reverse is also laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:56 PM

Righto. If this is how you feel there’s no point in me debating with you. Clearly you see women as the enemy. And while there are certainly woman out there like you describe, we aren’t all like that but I don’t think you would agree so…. Good luck with all that distain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:12 PM

Fat men aren’t shaming women for not liking them? I would say that some fat men certainly are. Isn’t there a whole online community of men shaming and crapping on women for having agency to choose her own sexual partners? And are scientists actually studying the self perceived attractiveness of overweight women? Who’s funding that? Andrew Tate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:36 PM

Yeah. The fit moms I know have fit husbands. Fit people tend to prefer fit partners. A flabby husband expecting his wife to be fit is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:30 PM

Just as many fat American men existing in that reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 01:15 PM
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I think the better question is asking yourself how thinking this way shapes how you interpret your experiences. Life happens from the inside out. If you think everything is shit, everything will be shit. You have options: 1) solve the situation/ change or leave the situation 2) feel better about the situation/ change the way you feel about the problem 3) accept and tolerate the situation 4) stay miserable/fall into despair/make things worse Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:16 AM
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I don’t think Leo is a predator. He’s a celebrity who is dating younger women who choose to date him for exposure. These woman, although much younger than him, are making a choice. If he wasn’t a celebrity he would be invisible to hot 20 year old models. He gets the hot girl (for sex or as his beard) and she gets publicity to further her career. It’s a win win for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:01 AM
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He seems like a joke to be honest. An ego centric moron who went too far for social status and now sits in a jail cell, hopefully gaining some self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:39 AM
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That was a great scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:55 PM
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My bad, I’m just going by the clip that was posted. I can’t remember the details of the episode. My point still stands though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:34 PM
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I’m not a gamer and have zero experience with online games, but I reckon that gaming, for some (not all) people is a way to cope with whatever shit life handed them. Unlike professional therapy, it’s ‘free therapy’ and there’s no mental health stigma attached to it. I can see how it would attract people who don’t have healthy ways of coping and don’t have (or are unwilling) to accept help for fear of stigma. Men need their own mental health services that are just for men, and I’m saying that as …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 06:48 PM
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A few of my friends are single moms and don’t seem to be struggling to get dates but they don’t have a lot of flexibility in terms of time. I think that’s the most challenging, but it doesn’t seem to prevent them from meeting guys and two of them got engaged last year, one to a single dad and the other to a slightly younger guy with no kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 06:15 PM

Large economy and powerful nation doesn’t mean the actual citizens are doing fine. You can be an oppressed citizen living in a powerful country. People flee these countries for a reason. My understanding of the thread here is using authoritarian measures that oppress people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 07:40 PM

Countries that have significantly limited personal freedoms that are doing just fine, which ones are those? Can we get a list of said countries please?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:40 PM

Have you not seen the daily riots in China due to their authoritarian approach to COVID? I admit the US could have been more proactive but literally dragging people by force into locked facilities, separating parents from their children and killing peoples’s pets is not the way. This is what authoritarianism looks like. It doesn’t make things better for society. It just creates a society where everyone is oppressed. Think North Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:22 PM
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There are many reasons why women choose to divorce their husbands. For every wife who chooses to divorce rape her husband because he has money, there are probably 5 who choose to stay in a shit marriage because he has money. There are also lots of equal income earner couples who divorce for reasons that have nothing to do with money. Like someone else here mentioned, the guys who complain about this tend to be the same guys who want a housewife/ bangmaid with no career or decent income of her ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:15 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:23 AM
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After watching some of those romance tour documentaries and 90 day finance, I can’t speak for all women but doubt that most care if those kinds of men are threatening to leave to find women in poor countries. And to be fair, the women who go abroad to sexually capitalize on poor desperate men are just as cringe. This is a particular demographic of people that for one reason or another have been deselected from the dating pool of their home countries and seek more success in places where they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:24 PM
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Wow that’s an awesome parental leave! I live in an expensive city too but parents tend to take all of the 18 months. It’s not 18 months per parent so some split the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 11:23 PM
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I don’t know the polices among different states so this is good to know. Canada has paid parental leave up to 18 months. The base is 55% of your salary and several companies top that up. I also think some places have communities where people tend to have more families. Like perhaps rural areas vs urban?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:52 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:47 PM
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I actually do know two women who have had babies at that age. But as a female yes I acknowledge that fertility does decrease with age. I don’t see it as an insult if someone points this out but usually, when it’s pointed out here, it’s in the context of older women being seen as defective or having no value outside of youth and fertility, and that’s insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:47 PM
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I mean, I don’t think anyone here is going to argue that there is no fertility wall. This is common knowledge. Yes, a man who wants to start a family is obviously going to factor in fertility, like the article says. The researcher in the article also states the importance of policies that allow women to start families while also advancing in their careers, and this is a US based article, the US having the worst maternity/ paternity leave polices in all of the developed nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:46 PM
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This brings up a good point. If she tried something but didn’t like it and told her current guy this and he expects her to do it again with him, just because she did it with someone else. I once got shit from a guy because I wouldn’t do something that I tried once and experienced pain from. I dumped his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:20 PM
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Never heard of this personally from my close female friends who kinky and are in relationships/ married. One likes anal and lots of sex toys and still does that. One likes to be tied up and still does that. Women that are into kinky will still want to do kinky stuff. If the concern is not wanting to be seen as too easy or experienced for the guy, that says more about the guy doesn’t it? Like a guy who is threatened by a sexually experienced woman who enjoys kinky sex. The woman that I referenced…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:20 PM
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If she says she doesn’t do those things anymore (I assume you mean sexually) then yeah that’s a red flag. But women typically don’t stop sexual acts they enjoy so I don’t see a wife ceasing to do sexual things she likes just because it’s with her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:02 PM
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I think you have a narrow view of what a husband is but if you’re that concerned then don’t ever be husband material I guess? If it bothers you that much. There are girls out there who are ok with casual dating. Pick them. That’s probably the easiest plan. But don’t be one of those guys who don’t want to be seen as husband material but want girlfriend treatment from girls they don’t want to commit to, then complain when she’s not giving him girlfriend level loyalty. Well why the fuck would she? …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:39 PM
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Because it was a time when women had very limited opportunity to survive on their own. There’s a scene with her and her mother and her mother telling her that her father lost all of their money and essentially marrying someone she doesn’t want is their way out of poverty. Something about a woman’s choices never being easy. That’s why she was with him, to survive. Perhaps the threat of death on a ship snapped her back to reality and made her realize that if she was going to die then she wanted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:27 AM
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You know there are lots of single men who also collect welfare right? Also most inmates are male and we all pay for them as well. Taxes often go to things we wouldn’t choose to support, that’s part of life in a demographic society I guess. Like I said you do you. As another poster point out, your cultural views are a part of this debate. Not everyone is interested in living how you and your culture lives. It’s doesn’t make your culture worse, it’s just means people aren’t interested and that sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:52 PM
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Western culture has some crap for sure (like most cultures) but one thing it has that most everyone is thankful for is choice and the freedom to have a marriage that works for you, whatever that marriage looks like. I don’t consider having a one size fits all marriage prototype significantly better, even if some forms of marriage are not what I would want. I live in Toronto which is one of the most diverse cities in the world, people with vastly different lifestyles/ religions/ traditions/ cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:20 PM
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Ok, so your opinion is based on your cultural norms of marriage, which you think should be applied to other cultures?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:02 PM
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Being asked those two questions says a lot about the man asking them. Mainly, it says RUN. Perhaps if you were to put those questions in some context like you did here, and explained what you would be bringing to the table if she were to cook and clean. That way, she can see what you are offering and decide if it’s worth it to her or not. If you are willing, like you said, to be the primary bread winner and share your income with her while she keeps her own income then maybe state that first? “ …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:54 PM
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I think if they share the same values they may have more success. However being a man whore who wants a tradcon virgin wife isn’t sharing the same values and that’s probably where some of the challenges may be for guys who don’t live a traditional conservative life but want someone who does. Also, most tradcon women are from religious communities so that will also be a barrier for the secular guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:26 PM
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Reproduction is step one. Raising the child is step two and lasts a lot longer. Even if governments subsidized artificial wombs so anyone who couldn’t have a child naturally could still become parents, how many single straight men are going to go for that? How many will want to team up with their buddy to co-parent? There are lots of single women right now who want kids but I don’t know of any who decided to team up with a straight woman and raise a child together. What usually happens is they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:32 PM
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Your OP didn’t specify just same sex couples or gay men raising kids together. You mentioned it, but you also mentioned men starting families with their buddies. I’m referring specifically to the latter guys who I assume are not gay? I’m trying to picture how it would realistically look with two straight guys starting a family together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:13 PM
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‘Men can start a family with their buddies’ I don’t see much buy in from men for that. As it stands now, even in a two parent household with both parents working it’s still usually the woman who does the majority of active parenting and not always by choice. I can count on one hand the number of fathers I know who actually know the names of their kids’ teachers. When the school calls because their child is sick, it’s the mothers who have to leave work to pick the up. Also the mothers who have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:08 PM
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I agree, and there are many young men with those qualities who do fine with young women. All things being equal, women will typically choose the younger of the two options is all I’m saying. Of course, there are always exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:01 PM
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If you took two men, both fit, both with the same wealth, both nice personalities with one being 25 and the other 45 and presented them to an attractive 25 yr old woman, who do you think she will choose? It’s great to see fit attractive older men but they are competing with fit attractive younger men for attractive young women. The only playing card they have that will give them an edge is money, but then, they’re leading with their wallets and is that the kind of relationship older men want? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:51 PM
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If most women didn’t think like her, then we would see a lot more young women in relationships with much older men. But we don’t. There definitely are some attractive and fit older guys out there who I’m sure can and do attract younger women, but it’s just not the norm for younger women to have relationships with much older men. People tend to have LTR and marriages with those are are within 5 years of their age. This is the preference for most young women. It’s been like this in the West for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:38 PM
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Polygamy means marrying more than one spouse. Not sure if this is what you are suggesting or if you mean non monogamous dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:47 PM
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Some people see what they want to see and filter things to feed into their hope. It’s not gender specific or related to SMV either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:15 PM
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But it’s changing. Men are allowed to marry other men. Women are allowed to work and make money. People are not as pressured to fit into gender roles from the past when men were expected to be the providers and women were excluded from most types of education and employment. Causal sex is more accepted, being non sexual is more accepted. Poly relationships are more accepted. Times have changed, like they always do. Maybe it’s because I live in Toronto, which is very liberal ,I don’t see men gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:47 PM
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You basically told her that he’s not fulfilling his societal masculine role, the one he was raised to fulfil from birth. I can see how a man who is ok with staying at home or having his wife earn more would be insulted by a comment like that. Of course there are lots of men who would not be ok with being a SHAD or having his wife earn more. But implying that he is less of a man (which you are implying) because he doesn’t fit into some man box that he was supposedly destined to fit into, is a shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:36 PM
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He’s living HIS dream. So what it it doesn’t align with what you think a man should be. You don’t represent all men. She’s telling you that her husband is happy and you are basically saying ‘yes but….’ You don’t know them personally do you? Just because it’s a choice you wouldn’t make doesn’t mean it’s wrong. I personally would not want to be a SHAM but I don’t think it’s a wrong choice for other women who want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:09 PM
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I don’t know any guys your age who had to do all of that. It’s admirable and amazing that you stepped up in a bad situation but that’s not because you’re a male. I know a female who at 20 had to become the guardian for her two younger siblings when her single father died of an overdose. Some people have the strength to do what you and she had to do. It’s not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:52 PM
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Not sure where in my posts I said any of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:26 PM
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I wouldn’t bet too much on that assumption if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:42 PM
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Exactly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:41 PM
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Oh wow. No words just a slow shaking of the head. Decision making when we are on our periods. WTF. I suppose this is also when we have to eat with a cork on our forks?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:22 PM
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What if it was her who got the promotion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:18 PM
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I understand the fun stuff, but I think OP is trying to point out that that young woman who is responsibility free and happy to go along for the ride may change her perspective as she gets older and has more life experience and maturity that comes with coming into your own. Also more responsibility. For example let’s say she’s 22 and in college so has free time between semesters and in the summer to travel etc. Then she graduates and gets a full time job. No more two months off in the summer and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:42 PM
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Lust and the desire not to have to put much effort into a relationship with someone who doesn’t have the life experience to expect effort from a partner? That’s my guess based on what alot of men here post about why they want younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:37 PM
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Monogamy. I don’t equate a polygamous man as high value no matter how hot and rich he is. Polygamy is like a one sided open relationship which not my thing. If that’s someone else’s thing, cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:46 PM
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Yes women can get casual sex easier but I don’t assume that the guy she has for casual sex is different from the guy she has a relationship with because I have seen many relationships that started as casual. Yes I would say that women find relationships more validating, but being chosen as the final girl after he stuck his dick in everything else is not appealing to women who were never into players. These women are the ‘good girls’ because they rejected guys like that so it may not be seen as v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:25 PM
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How’s this any different than guys who casually date easy girls for years, then look for a ‘good girl’ when they are ready to settle down?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:06 AM
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He’s been around for awhile but yet his YouTube channel has less than 4K subscribers. He gets tonnes of attention from a group of like minded men and also from people who give him backlash for his views. I mean, an obese narcissist criticizing the body weight of women in various countries? Of course he’s going to get attention. It’s shock value stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 12:47 PM
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What about his own truth? The dude was twice divorced. Yeah he thought that women should be realistic about dating which yes we should be, but he also said what women should accept being cheated on and should allow themselves to be used by men. I don’t think people should be coddled either but there’s a line between coddling and wanting people to accept being treated badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:21 PM
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What I meant was, being a male doesn’t equal competency to lead in a relationship and make major decisions. There are men out there who are not good with money, have bad judgment, make stupid decisions and lack knowledge and experience to be in charge of major decisions in a relationship. To be fair, there are women like that too. Having someone defer to you to make decisions should be earned based on trust and competency. No one wants to be led into a shit show lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:50 PM
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I’m pretty laid back and happy to go with the flow on most things in my marriage, like what to have for dinner (because he is the cook in our family so it’s his choice what he wants to cook for us), where to go out to eat (he has more interest and knowledge of good restaurants), what things to invest in because he has more knowledge of that and I have seen the success he has had making good financial choices. When it comes to medical/ government processes (ie renewing health cards, navigating th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:06 PM
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You dodged a bullet. Look if being submissive and feminine is what you want in a relationship that’s fine, but it doesn’t mean it’s a green light for a man to control or emotionally abuse you. So you did the right thing. Being submissive doesn’t have to mean having no boundaries or self respect. You can be feminine and submissive and still not put up with shit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:21 PM
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Reality happens for everyone, that’s part of life. It’s how you deal with it that matters. There’s nothing wrong with learning from a mistake and figuring out how to vet women better, how to have standards and communicate boundaries, but that’s not unique to the red pill, the red pill didn’t create that. I don’t think men need to go down the rabbit hole of Women Suck in order to be able to date. That’s the issue with red pill, the common sense advice is a fraction of the overall bitterness and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:37 AM
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I think improving your understanding of women and vetting is a good idea. It’s a good idea for women to do the same for men. There’s dishonesty on both sides though, that’s not limited to gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:32 AM
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What I took from the red pill is that men want to be the player that she’s emotional tethered to. Being in a monogamous committed relationship doesn’t seem to be the goal for many red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:27 AM
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Because that messes up his retarded argument that if former high n count women expect to be given a chance then women should fuck former rapists and pedos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:09 AM
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I don’t know what Loli hentai is but if it involves children or cartoons that look like children then yep I would claim that they’re a pedo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:03 AM
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I would never date any of those guys. Having a high n count in no way compares to behaviours that are harmful to others like rape and sex with trafficked women. As for a pedo, those desires have a strong potential to be harmful and I have my doubts that a pedo can truly retrain his mind to be attracted to age appropriate people. Do I even have to explain that? A new low for a tired topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:52 AM
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Are you comparing a pedophile, rapist, and sex tourist sleeping with trafficked girls to high n count women? Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:42 AM
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Most RP men seemed to be doing everything they can to avoid being a provider, which is the opposite of the 1950’s marriage. That said, it sounds like your parents had a good marriage based on love and shared values. That is the ideal relationship, one based on love and shared values, whatever those values may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:02 PM
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I agree to start looking for a relationship when you have the best chance of success but the RP also advocates for not committing to one woman and running a harem, so who are these brads women in their prime are supposed to commit to when the RP idea is not to commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:38 PM
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It’s not. To some of these guys, if a woman chooses a committed relationship over being emotionally tethered to some player as plate one of many with whom he will never commit and to whom he will use and toss aside when he’s done with her, she’s ‘settling’ :/. It’s like ‘hey you lose if you don’t let men treat you like disposable sex objects!’ Heed our warning and open those legs!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:43 PM
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It’s not for everyone, like you said, but it’s their choice and I’m all for people being free to make their own choices about their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:59 PM
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If what Kevin Samuels said was true, then wives would never divorce their successful husbands for cheating. Having a mistress is a dealbreaker for most women, perhaps with the following exceptions: When it’s an open relationship both ways. When she’s a gold digger and doesn’t care as long as she gets the lifestyle because she is there for the money not the man. When she’s cheating too. When she doesn’t like sex so doesn’t care as long as other relationship needs are met. When she’s bi sexual and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:19 PM
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Not necessarily. She has a choice and even if that choice isn’t what feminists would choose, it’s better than women not having a choice. Not all feminists are the same. I think many women support women being able to choose to be a stay at home mother rather than having no rights and no other option than to rely on a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:58 PM
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No. I personally prefer to have stuff I enjoy outside of men and they have stuff they enjoy outside of women, then stuff we enjoy together as a couple, which is what I have in my marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:38 PM
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Exactly. I can’t speak for all females but guys who have passions/ hobbies/ interests outside of dating and don’t tie their self worth into women are easier to be with. Also, less games from them. Contrary to what some men think, most women are not interested in having a guy revolve their lives around them, especially women who also have passions/ hobbies/ interests outside of dating. It’s sad to see on PUA and red pill forums posts asking what kind of career to have to look more appealing to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:13 PM
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The square jawline thing. Rarely do I think a guy is more attractive because of his jawline. The whole face has to do something for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:29 PM
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The first one. We’re defined by our actions. And it would be naive to think that a man or a woman in a loving committed relationship has never fantasized about another person or had the occasional ‘what if’ thought. It’s what you do with those thoughts that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:20 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:41 PM
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So? Is it women’s fault that men don’t go after jobs women prefer? I work in social work and I would love to have more men on our teams, but it’s a female dominated industry. I don’t know what to tell ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:40 PM
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There is no law that says men can’t do the jobs that I referenced. Men do have options. They also have preferences, just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:53 PM
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We all subsidize the existence of people to some extent. Do I eat prison food? No. But I subsidize the existence of prisoners, most of whom are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:48 PM
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TIL that men are pissed because women stole their nursing/daycare/teaching/elderly caregiver jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:42 PM
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So betraying the wife and kids is the better option here? It’s not. Yes being married may make it more complicated but betraying the trust of people who trust you is worse then ending it and maintaining a relationship with your kids while being single and able to date other women. Life is messy but you don’t have to add more mess by being untrustworthy to your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:44 PM
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True. Also true for women imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:30 PM
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That’s your example? Not even remotely close. Going behind her back is cheating. Full period stop. Ending the relationship and being single and free to date is the better option of the two. Also, why would you want to stay with someone who doesn’t even want to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:28 PM
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I don’t agree with denying a husband sex all the time but I also don’t think that keeping him sexually satisfied will necessarily prevent cheating. Depends on the man. Some men cheat despite having sex on tap from their wives because they want someone who is not their wife. Some men (and women) cheat regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:25 PM
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It’s not ok to deny the other person in a relationship where the expectation is monogamy. If the denier is ok with and agrees to the other person seeking sex outside, then I don’t personally see an issue with it. If the denier doesn’t agree to it, then it’s time to end the relationship and be free to seek a sexually compatible partner. That way, there is no cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:19 PM
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The guy who looks younger because the way you described him, he’s more attractive physically and taking care of himself is an attractive quality as well. I don’t care much about the bald thing but the dad bod thing is preventable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 02:59 PM
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I know there are children taking care of their elderly parents. My point is that having children does not guarantee they will. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:13 PM
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Yep. I’ve seen this myself working with elderly people in nursing homes. And it’s not always malicious either. In many cases, adult children are not in a position to fully care for an ageing parent. They have their own kids and they work etc. One elderly person had to be moved into a nursing home because he caused a kitchen fire during a sundowning episode. 1000s of dollars worth of damage and it could have cost them their lives. People here who are saying, “well, if you don’t have kids then no …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:33 PM
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Yes, a parent (mother or father) is more likely to have some level of informal family support from their adult children. It’s just not a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:00 PM
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As someone who has worked with elderly people, don’t assume that their kids will provide any support. Lots of them didn’t, leaving it to health professionals to try to coordinate care for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:46 PM
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Your last paragraph is equally applicable to elderly men. Old age is a significant risk factor for isolation. Also, having a spouse in old age doesn’t guarantee they will take care of you if you get sick. When I did work in nursing homes, many of the residents were married but their spouses couldn’t or didn’t want to care for them at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 12:42 PM
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Yeah I should had specified that in my first post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:14 AM
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I mean the advice about not making yourself too available and not laying your cards on the table from the start, like the first meeting. I think it’s ok to not share too much while gaging who the person is. I don’t advocate being fake or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:37 AM
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I think a lot of that is good advice regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:44 AM
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Don’t bet the house on that assumption. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:57 PM
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That is true I’ll give ya that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:55 PM
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What would be novel is if we could go two weeks without a post about n counts. Everyone has their preferences, life goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:12 PM
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There it is :) thanks for posting!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:58 PM
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Your reply under the top comment. It’s not letting me copy and paste so just scroll up or check your post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:39 PM
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You said yourself said earlier that right now, you don’t imagine sleeping with other women but that could change. Why don’t you think you’re wife’s feelings about not sleeping with other men won’t change? Does that seem logical to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:33 PM
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Right. Again, don’t count on that. Unless she has no attraction to you and doesn’t care that you sleep with other women bc now she’s off the hook for that, or doesn’t like sex, things will change. I really think you need to be prepared for unexpected outcomes that may negatively impact her, you, and the relationship if you want to fundamentally change your relationship in this way. If she changes her mind and decides that she does want to sleep with other men, you won’t have a leg to stand on if…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:07 PM
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She may change her mind if you want to open the relationship though. She’s probably not thinking of looking for men to date because she’s married, however if she has a hall pass, she may become interested in what’s out there. Don’t assume that she wouldn’t be. Definitely don’t count on her not being interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:41 PM
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Women who want monogamy will not accept a man who wants to sleep around. Any rational and logical man not thinking with his dick knows that. Also, any rational and logical man not thinking with his dick knows that the kind of women who will accept him sleeping with other women will herself also be interested be sleeping with other men in that relationship. People who are into poly/ open relationships etc seek partners who are like minded. That’s how this works. Those are the women you will have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:37 PM
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I don’t think think we could know unless he told us. But if there was something about him that lead to him seeking transactional sex over dating women then those red flags would come out but we wouldn’t necessarily be able to deduce that he visited prostitutes because of those red flags. One of my ex boyfriends has an older cousin who seemed kind of off socially around women, like he barely seemed to acknowledge them at all even when being introduced to one in social gatherings (just nod and shu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:07 PM
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I don’t know that women who want monogamous relationships would see that as a better deal, but I can see non monogamous women being fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:08 PM
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I would absolutely respect him for being upfront and honest. If I was dating or wanting to date more than one man, I would also accept it. If I wasn’t wanting to date more than one man, I wouldn’t accept him as a dating prospect but would still respect him for his honesty and wish him well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:01 PM
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I like that men seem more open at taking people at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:24 AM

You’re actually making more of a case to control men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:56 PM

So if secular girls approach religious men for sex? Who do you think has more self control when approached for sex? Guys or girls? Whoever has the least amount of control should be shamed more, going by your logic. Yes, women can get sex easier, but getting sex and wanting sex are two different things. Girls don’t struggle as much with refraining from it compared to guys. If twenty hot guys approached a religious girl she is less likely to give in versus one decent enough girl approaching a horn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:44 PM
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Is Jake a born again Christian like your fiancé, in this transparently obvious scenario that’s really about your beef with a woman who used to put out for casual sex but is now religious and making you wait until marriage but you proposed anyway? Dude…. no amount of our perspective is going to change your relationship with this woman. Just accept her as is or move on. Source: your post history
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:15 PM
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Football is usually a short lived career. She seemed to be quite supportive of him, attending his games and publicly praising his talent etc. Maybe she assumed that, like other pro athletes in contact sports, he would have a good 10-15 years then retire in his mid 30s so they can move onto new ventures. Well, he’s that good of a player that he played much much longer than most NFL players. Then he retires, probably leading her and the kids to believe that this amazing phase of his life is comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:51 PM
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Her net worth is more than Tom’s actually, so he may be the one getting money from her. All depends on their pre-nup. They both married with their own considerable net worth so you know there’s a tight pre-nup in there. Also, why is it her that destroyed the relationship? For all we know she wanted Tom to finally be a family man and be around for their marriage and the kids, and retiring would have meant he would be around, but he choose football over his own family. If that’s the case, then it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:11 PM
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Those traits you mentioned were not invented by the red pill. You describe men who take care of their physical appearance, have social skills, confidence, standards and boundaries. A lot of men have this and have no idea what red pill even is, much less describe themselves as one. I don’t see a lot of those traits in red pill forums to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 09:18 PM
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That’s been my experience too. I work in health care and my husband works in finance. Of all the work couples we know in our respective fields not one of them is married or in a LTR with a woman with no formal education nor career.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:16 PM
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Tell that to all the overweight women who are overlooked because they don’t work out. You make it seem like men have to do all the work to look pretty but women don’t have to do much because men will have relationships with them anyway. This could not be further from the truth. Guys on this subreddit right now, am I wrong here??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:50 PM
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How do you think women should show that they are willing to help solve men’s issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:52 PM
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Woman can advocate for the funding of these services or even help start them. I helped start a men’s group for one of my colleagues. I am in the mental health field so that helped of course. Women can also help fundraise for male only services, and help promote them. Women and men working together to get these services.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:44 AM
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More male only mental health support. I always thought they should have a safe male only space to get help just like they have for us women. Men’s support groups. These groups exists but there’s not enough of them. Also, more help for men experiencing domestic violence. More men’s parenting groups. Men are just as capable of being a nurturing parent and society needs to recognize and support that more. In Canada we 18 months paid parental leave and a couple of my male co-workers have spit this t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:11 AM
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You have a right not to engage with co-workers expressing their emotions over something that doesn’t concern you. However you come across in your posts as someone who doesn’t like women and I would bet money that your tone and non verbal behaviour towards female co-workers conveys it. We all have people we don’t like working with, and we’re just getting your perspective here so be mindful of how you come across to people you work with, especially the ones you don’t like, in this case, all of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:49 PM
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That is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:58 AM
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Don’t really care that they follow these guys but it’s ironic when they say “Women are followers, men are leaders” when you have some of these guys forking over 100s of $ for classes/ books etc and quoting their words like disciples. If that’s not being a follower….:/.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:03 AM
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Most women I know what to be financially independent but also want to share their life with one man. You can have both. Being in a relationship that’s good feels great, being able to rely on yourself financially feels great too. Being able to rely on yourself financially and have a good man is awesome. Most women’s life goals are not to actively avoid depending on men. They, like most people of all genders, want to have their own income. But if you prefer to find someone to spend your money on, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:14 PM
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He has to be all those things if that’s the kind of relationship he wants with a like minded woman. But there is more than one way to have a good relationship. You do you that’s cool but don’t assume that this is how all couples should be or even want to be. Also, having a dick doesn’t make someone more competent, responsible, or capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 10:11 PM
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I think this is a fair stance. The fact is most of us don’t care about some things our friends, family, and partners are interested in and would prefer not to engage in discussions about it. And I think that’s ok. There are things I’m interested in discussing that my husband could care less about, so I don’t talk to him about it, and he doesn’t talk to me about stuff he’s into that I have no interest in. We have shared interests that we discuss and that works for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:14 PM
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Is this a toxic feminine thing, or a shitty person thing? Literally everything you listed I have seen displayed in all genders and sexual orientations including the most masculine of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:26 PM
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I think this depends on how much importance you place on the sexual market value. People who place all of their self worth on being highly desirable to a particular age demographic will probably struggle with feelings of resentment towards younger people who are more desirable than them. And that goes both ways. I have read critical remarks from older men about young men, saying they are immature, don’t have financial stability and can’t really treat girls as well as an older man with means. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:17 PM
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I only met one women who seemed bitter with younger women, and that’s probably because she used her youth to get a lot of perks from guys and refuses to date men her own age nor act her own age. Every other women I know past 30 doesn’t seem to have any issues with younger women. I’m not sure why the red pill assumes older women resent younger women or feel threatened by them. I get the impression that the red pill has beef with older women but I don’t know why. It’s strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:29 PM
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I don’t know. While I agree that fit men are physically stronger than fit women, theres more to military service than being able to lift things. For example you learn strategic skills and need to be able to think fast in crucial situations, that’s not a skill that’s gender specific. I think anyone that goes into a field where they could be deployed and put their lives at risk should be paid the same. After all, the purpose of the military is to defend and protect and anyone who signs up to do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:36 PM
7

What about boss men who visit a dominatrix to get whipped and stepped on? Submission in the context of sex doesn’t mean they want to be submissive in all aspects of their lives. Some people enjoy butt plugs but don’t want to wear one while at the office, know what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:57 PM
3

That’s quite the expensive and potentially risky booty call. Do they not have Asian hookers in your town?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:30 AM
3

There’s a YouTube video of a middle age guy who went to the Philippines, got with a 19 year old and she and her family welcomed him with open arms, especially after he gave them money to build a house and loaned them money as well. When the money ran out, the family tried to get him deported. There’s actually quite a few stories of the White Man getting dumped, duped, or otherwise being treated like a walking ATM while his unicorn is rolling several other guys. But I digress, please tell us agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:20 AM
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I’ll take it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:44 AM
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Men are just as likely to be affected by a shitty experience with a woman. Half the stuff talked about in the Red Pill is about past negative experiences with women and how to deal with it moving forward. Also, the relationship subreddits has lots of stories about men being affected by toxic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:46 PM
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If you prefer virgins or low n count women that’s fine, but don’t assume that having a low n count or being a virgin equals no drama, no trauma, or no trust issues. It would be very naive to assume that. Lots of non sexual/ non romantic relationship things happen in someone’s life to give them trust issues or have trauma, or be jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:30 PM
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Joint custody is the most common in the US and Canada and most custody arrangements are settled out of court. However there may be a primary parent who the children live with. I’ve said this before on similar threads, my Aunt is a family law lawyer. She said one of the reasons why courts choose the mother as the primary parent is because it’s commonly the mother who, for example: Deals with their kids’ school Books and takes them to their doctor’s appointments Takes time off work if they’re sick…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 09:56 PM
1

There’s a theory out there that he’s hiding his sexuality behind relationships with these models, who of course benefit from being seen with him. It’s really not uncommon for these kinds of win win curated relationships when it comes to celebs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:50 AM
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Oh. Now it makes sense. I got dumped before too but I don’t make a theory about male behaviour out of it. Life is harsh. Believe me, shittier things will happen then getting dumped for being nice. When you have more life experience you will look back at this and laugh. You will also hopefully have good standards for a healthy relationship. Not being mean here, I’m legitimately saying that you will grow out of this and look back with a bit of a chuckle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:41 PM
1

Like I said. Weird ass logic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:30 PM
2

It wouldn’t be you who’s mature and secure enough to not be bothered by the fact that before she knew you existed she had boyfriends? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:15 PM
2

I would hope that all her future boyfriends are mature and secure enough to not be bothered by the fact that she actually existed before meeting them. This is some weird ass logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:12 PM
2

How is it winning if she’s no longer with him? Not understanding the logic here. So he was picked first, but that’s it. She moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:08 PM
2

Well that’s some girls. Not all girls. Try to avoid those kinds of girls if it’s an issue for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:56 AM
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That has been a topic here a zillion times. Maybe she tried something once with a rando and didn’t like it, so won’t do it again. And if she enjoyed it why would she stop doing it with a guy she cares about? People typically continue to do the sexual things they enjoy. If you gave head to a random girl and really enjoyed it, would you not give head to a girl you cared about? This has been hashed out many times here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:33 PM
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I get your point about making one guy wait if she didn’t make all the other guys wait. But is that really common? It’s more common for a girl to have had a one or two casual sex situations, and a few situations where she waited to have sex. It’s usually a mix. It’s also not uncommon to have sex right away with a guy who wants a relationship. It’s not always about separating sex from relationships. And often, when sex happens it just happens, being in the moment. It’s sometimes after that she thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:28 PM
2

Yes they are, but they don’t usually last for years, in fact the longer they go on the more likely it is to have emotions and feelings involved from one or both. Some FWB turn into relationships. I don’t have beef with casual sex but I don’t think a relationship is a worse deal for a guy. It really depends on what he wants and his realistic expectations. If he doesn’t care that it’s only sex and can trade off non exclusivity and no investment for responsibility free no strings sex then he’s gold…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:20 PM
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The one who will continue to get it. Is that the guy she fucked a few times or the guy she’s fucking regularly in a monogamous relationship? Let me guess, your comeback will be women stop fucking men when they enter relationships with them :/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:04 PM
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Some guys pump and dump girls they barely know but commit to one they actually like. Yeah, it may suck but people have been having sex with people that they don’t want a relationship with since time. And not all girls make a guy she really likes wait. The ones who do are also more likely to be the ones who make most or all guys wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:59 PM
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If all you care about is sex with no loyalty, commitment or love then yeah you have a point. But I have been on red pill sites, and many of these guys post complaints about these girls they casually fuck doing things like flaking, seeing other guys, not returning texts fast enough, and essentially not making them a priority. But why the fuck would they? So maybe if these guys were totally ok with not being the number one person in the life of someone they have zero intention of investing in, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:04 PM
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Some women have casual sex with men they know aren’t marriage nor father material. They sleep with them because they want to have sex with them, not because they want to have kids with them. They don’t see them as having more value than that. When it comes to choosing a partner for co-parenting there’s more to that than him being hot. For some reason, being chosen for anything more than causal (and often temporary) sex is seen as a bad thing in red pill circles, even if they do want those women …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 09:09 PM
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No, but some will just move on to an easier girl. The waiting thing doesn’t work with all men. It’s like a dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t thing. Be easy/ make him wait. Which is why more women are just doing what works for them and rather than trying to accommodate the conflicting preferences of some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:44 AM
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So only betas have to wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:39 AM
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What would you say to men who accuse women of making a man wait because she sees him as beta? (A topic that frequently comes up here.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:34 PM
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So the moral of the story is to avoid men who want to have sex right away, or, before committing to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:04 PM
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I’m sure there are some women who do the bait and switch, but I would say in many of these cases, he stopped dating her, is treating her like a utility (ie reduced to a role and not a person) and approaches sex in a way where for her it just becomes another ‘chore’ that she has to do. And that can go both ways. Women can make men feel like this too. This is why it’s so important to KEEP DATING even after marriage and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:51 PM
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Of course not. We can’t be naive that’s true. They will be having sex probably but I can tell you with 100% certainty that you will find it a bit challenging if you do have a daughter and she starts dating. You will be concerned about the kind of guys she has around. It’s just a part of being a parent. It’s what we do with those concerns that are key.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:39 PM
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Is that what you will tell her boyfriends when they come around? Oh man lol. Save that post, so that you can read it when she turns 18 hahaha There’s no parenting like hypothetical parenting lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:31 PM
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I wouldn’t want my daughter to be married at 18, regardless of his age. That’s too young but in reality there’s nothing I could do about it as she would not be a minor and it’s legal. My main concern is if she is happy, loved, and in a healthy relationship where she is free to pursue an education and career if she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:22 PM
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You can be attracted to who ever you want, the key is whether or not they are attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 10:18 AM
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The red pill perspective usually advises against any kind of pair bonding with women, yet seems hyper focused on a woman’s ability to pair bond. ‘I have zero intention of giving you what I expect you to give to me.’ But women are the entitled ones right :/.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:01 PM
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I don’t think most men ‘just know’. That has never been my experience anyway lol. Communication is key and it goes both ways. I can see how some men find it unfair that they are just expected to know. It’s not like in porn or romantic movies. Us women have a role in communication when it comes to having good sex. In my opinion, a bad lover is a selfish lover who doesn’t listen nor care what their partner wants. Any guy who is open to following up on what gets her off is a far better lover than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:37 PM
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Women in Afghanistan are covered from head to toe and still attract unwanted male attention. What do you suggest they do? Stay home? Maybe men who don’t have impulse control should stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:04 AM
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Guess what? Women who enjoy non vanilla sex typically will have that as a criteria for their long term partners. It’s not like she will become starfish just because she now has a husband or boyfriend. However, if she tried some non vanilla stuff and didn’t like it, then she won’t want to do it again. It’s not you, it’s her, really. I don’t get why some men here don’t grasp my last point. It’s like whining because a girl who got fisted once and didn’t like it, won’t do it again. If you let a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 08:01 PM
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He has shock value and feeds into male insecurities which generates viewers which generates money. He’s a fake who is very successfully spewing stuff that he knows will get a reaction out of people, good or bad. Howard Stern made millions doing outrageous stuff shocking and entertaining people. It’s funny because the red pill likes to think that men aren’t followers, they’re leaders, when it’s mainly red pill men circle jerking around Andrew Tate, hanging onto his every word like it’s gospel and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:45 PM
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For sure there are. I totally agree. But OP didn’t clarify what kind of marriage, they just said marriage. Maybe if they compared it to particular marriages of today and/or marriages from the past the statements would make more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:42 PM
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I don’t have an issue with prostitution either as long as the women are not being forced into it, but not sure how examples of married women from 100+ years ago relates to married women of today in comparison to prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:33 PM
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Ok, are those women only having casual sex with him? I think some guys here don’t understand what a harem means. A harem is actually a place in a house where the man’s women live. We need to move away from using this term to define situations where some guy is casually fucking more than one girl. That’s not what a harem is, that’s just causal dating. If he’s fucking other girls behind each others back when they each think he’s exclusive then it’s cheating, not a harem. In a harem women all know …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:47 PM
5

When I was dating my now husband and he got laid off I gave him money to help cover his rent while he looked for another job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:58 PM
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Relationships are conditional. I agree people usually don’t stick around if they are not getting what they want from the relationship. When I say transactional, I mean it’s an openly agreed upon arrangement, like you fuck me and I will buy you expensive stuff and a luxury condo. Yes, it’s my opinion that people who care about genuine feelings and affection in a relationship won’t go for the arrangement fuck for money/ be used for money transactional relationship. Yes, that is me. I don’t have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:25 PM
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OP is asking if it’s a deal breaker. Women here are saying that it is. Also, most women aren’t actively seeking the top 1% of men where being part of a harem is required. The ones who do would be ok with it yea. But many women are not ok with that, in fact most women aren’t even trying to get the top 1% of men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:14 PM
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I often hear women I know say they don’t want to be with broke guys. I have never heard them say they want to share a rich man. I know there are some women out there who are ok with using a guy for his money/ fame etc and those women are probably more likely to be ok with not being the only girl as long as his wallet stays open. I know some men don’t care if they are being used that way. It’s a transactional win win for all. Hugh Hefner paid women to be his live in girlfriends and they did it fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:56 PM
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He’s one of the exceptions. 99.9 percent of women aren’t doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:52 PM
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Yes public washrooms so we can chat while peeing (don’t ask why it’s just a thing I can’t explain it lol). But having to share bathroom time and space for all our bathroom stuff is not ideal. Women throughout history shared men for economic reasons. They had no rights to property, were excluded from gainful work, and seen as less than men in all aspects of society. If being part of a harem meant that they didn’t starve or have to resort to prostitution then that’s what they did. It wasn’t a pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:12 PM
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Total deal breaker. Unless of course I’m totally destitute and have no choice but to share a man so that I didn’t starve, like if I was a slave girl on a Viking colony in 790AD. Some guys here have got to get over this delusion that women actually want to share men. We don’t even like sharing a bathroom lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:48 PM
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She’ll start liking you less when it seems that you don’t give a shit. At some point, you will cease to be worth her time and she’ll move on. And the fault will be with you for sabotaging the relationship. Look, there’s nothing wrong with wanting her to put in some effort, but what you are describing is a manipulative shit test that will be exhausting to keep up, has a short shelf life for most women, and will most likely blow up in your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:37 PM
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Do all women who care about love and commitment hand out sex like it’s nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:28 PM
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Dick in and of itself is low value, but that dick, paired with love and commitment from a man she really likes is of very high value. If all a guy wants to offer is his dick with no emotional investment, then yeah, he’s expendable as literally 1000s upon 1000s of guys are offering the same (just dick nothing else) which isn’t much in the eyes of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:03 PM
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I’m describing a man that some women would have casual sex with but not emotionally invest in. Also women who are players tend to date men who are players. I personally don’t have anything against men who fuck around with lots of girls, but they are not typically seen as relationship worthy and women who don’t like casual sex usually avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:35 AM
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If all a guy wants is casual sex and can easily get it then yeah, he would be lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:30 AM
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From what I have seen in the dating pool, some man whores are seen as fun fuck buddies as many also have decent fun social circles and good social skills and charisma that helps get them friends and girls. But they are usually not seen as trustworthy long term partners. I have met man whores in my own social circles and not once have I ever heard a girl say she wanted to have his children. Party with him? Yes. Fuck him, yes. Actually share a life and children with him? Never once heard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:27 PM
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Probably for the same reasons why some women prefer not to have relationships with single fathers. It’s a lot to take on if you don’t have kids or don’t want kids. That said, there are plenty of awesome single parents who do date and have relationships. Almost every single mother I know is in a relationship. Some with men who also have kids and some with men who don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:58 PM
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Literally have read here countless times that a woman will gladly share a high value man. Spinning plates where the women don’t know about each other isn’t a harem. A harem means the women know about each other because a harem is an actual place in the man’s house where his women live. These guys don’t even use the term properly in addition to spinning bullshit about how they have soft ‘harems’.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 09:35 PM
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That we’re willing to be in a harem with one high value man and be exclusive to that man. This isn’t One Thousand and One Arabian Nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 09:01 PM
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Wow. So a girl having no interest in you at all, will have interest in you if you can get her to hate you??? And you think this will work on every girl… 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:03 PM
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By what kind of women? Or maybe it doesn’t matter if the only goal is to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:35 PM
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Yeah, and that actually works with all genders to a point, I agree. OP is talking about having women hate him. That’s extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:28 PM
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I’m a woman, but I don’t think wanting to make people hate you is a male thing. The men I know prefer to be with women who actually like them. Women who like you are less likely to key your car. Sex at the expense of having someone hate and be vindictive towards you seems weird to me. It’s like a woman purposely acting like a dumb bimbo so she can get guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:25 PM
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Why would you want to make people hate you? Seems weird to me. Like purposely being an ahole. Like someone else said,this can lead to the person making things difficult for you. This is just one example but I know a girl who hooked up with a jerkoff who she knew was an ass but slept with him anyway, to key his car while he was asleep. The kind of women that aholes attract are the kinds of women who themselves can be aholes. You attract what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:14 PM
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Well, you did say you value looks over everything else so your reply perfectly illustrates that. No, men who look like they’ve lived through shit can definitely be less attractive. Women have eyes too. You have a very shallow approach to dating and women. You’re young, maybe you will grow out of that. It’s almost to be expected at your age but that view is pathetic as you get older so be mindful of that. I think you should do your girlfriend a favour and let her go. She will be fine. She will me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:29 PM
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But you want to explore casual sex. I mean, you are young and said that you are not looking to have kids for another ten years. Who know? Maybe she wants to do the same thing. Maybe you both decide to take a break and date other people as you are both young. Maybe you both end up deciding that you don’t want a relationship or you both end up deciding that what you have is worth more than causal sex. But if she wants a relationship and you don’t, then don’t waste her time. End the relationship. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:19 PM
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Except that doctors typically marry women who are also highly educated with professional careers. It’s actually very common for doctors to marry other doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:27 PM
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So maybe work on being in a position to have people like you naturally? You can make lots of money and be likeable. This is actually kind of sad to read. It’s like you determined that you have no value and have to basically use money to pay someone to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:52 PM
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What if you lose the money? Lose your job, bad investment etc? Do you expect her to stay with you? Also, if you’re going to dangle wealth to attract a woman then try to limit her benefiting from that wealth, be prepared to lose her to the first rich guy who offers her more. You’re setting yourself up to have your plan blow up in your face. Find someone who wants you for more than your money. The money is a bonus but she should actually like you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:22 PM
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Hold control how? By locking her in the house if you lose your wealth? If she was only with you for your money and you end up losing it, she’s gone to another man with money. In fact, even if you don’t lose the money, she could dump you for a man who has more money. Maybe have more criteria for the future mother of your children if you value a healthy family life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 10:11 PM
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Basically looks for a hook up. To answer your question of whether it’s better for a guy to be hook up material or boyfriend/ husband material, that’s a question that only men can answer. Because it depends on what a man wants: if he only wants sex then for him it’s better to be hook up material. If he wants more than sex, for example a girl who will be exclusive and love and care for him, then it’s better for him to be boyfriend/ husband material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:24 PM
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Offsprang. If that’s a typo it’s a good one. I’m going to use it 😆 Offsprang when your offspring finally move out of the house. Back to the topic: I agree. It’s usually replaced with something deeper and more sustainable than lust. As fun as the newness of a new sexual relationship is, that alone doesn’t maintain a healthy relationship. There has to be more because the new car smell will wear off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 07:04 PM
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That’s sad that there are people out there thinking that forcing parents to raise kids they didn’t want is going to be better than abortion or adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:57 AM
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I agree with you. Unwanted children who don’t get adopted will have a harder life. My comment about people being against foster care is not in the context of anti-abortion. I was just commenting on people being against foster care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:54 AM
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The reality is our taxes pay for lots of things we don’t necessarily agree with. If I had to choose where my tax money went, I would choose foster care over feeding criminals in prison. I’ve never heard anyone complain about having to pay taxes to care for foster kids. And I’m Canadian, and we pay lots of taxes and people complain about it all the time lol but again, never heard complaints about paying for foster care. I’m sure there are people who do complain about this, but I don’t think it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:34 AM
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I’ve never met anyone against foster care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:24 AM
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Most people are against foster care and adoption? Where???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:12 AM
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It has an impact if he’s in a monogamous relationship and hurts the other person, unless he doesn’t care about the pain cheating causes. Men are capable of empathy and caring about how their behaviours affects others, and aren’t reduced to biological impulses, aren’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:03 PM
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Ok, then don’t commit to monogamy with anyone. What is your point here? If you want to sleep with several women and spread your genes but not get women pregnant or whatever you don’t need to be in a relationship to do that. You can be single, then it’s not cheating. Or be in a poly relationship but most women into that are going to be sleeping with other guys too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:44 PM
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I don’t always hear that a woman can’t respect a man who goes 50/50. Nor do I always here that woman will only submit if he pays 100% of the bills. The women I know are not interested in submitting. It sounds like you are looking for a traditional woman. Traditional women are more likely to be religious and submissive. Are you religious? I think this is a post for religious or traditional subreddits. My understanding of the FDS is they have zero interest in being submissive and the women I know,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:11 AM
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You disclosed in other subreddits that you are a virgin who is saving yourself and want someone with the same values. There is nothing wrong with that. What is wrong, is assuming that other men and women should value what you value. They don’t. You are here on a subreddit that isn’t about virgins saving themselves, yet you seem to be expecting people to agree with your generalized claims that are really about your personal values. You should not be surprised that many here are not agreeing. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:16 PM
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Right. So this is yet another virginity good/ non virginity bad post. You do you. Don’t speak for other people, don’t assume non virgin women have lesser value or value men less, and go find your virgin. But for your sake, have more on your ‘ideal girlfriend’ list than her virginity. Her being a virgin is no guarantee that the relationship will work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:58 PM
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OP is saying that blue pillers say to be happy on your own, that’s it not a red pill thing. But MGTOW, on paper at least, preach being happy on your own and they are form of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:39 PM
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MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:50 PM
1

When someone’s love language is ‘gifts and acts of service’, that sounds like entitlement to me, no matter the gender. I don’t think this has anything to do with how a guy looks. I do think you’re probably better off without her, unless you like doing other people’s dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:14 PM
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By being honest from the beginning. But most men don’t like the idea of a girl sleeping with him and other guys, but the reality is 99.9% of women who are ok with a non exclusive arrangement will be doing just that, which is why they’re ok with it. So, the best way to not be labeled a jerk is to be upfront about it, let those girls who want monogamy filter themselves out and choose from the ones who are ok with it. Just have to be ok with the fact that it goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:59 PM
1

Yeah. If it was routine testing at birth, that would at least cause less issues than if he asked for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:54 PM
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It sucks for guys that happens to, I can’t argue that it’s not a horrible thing to have happen to him, and the child, especially if the truth comes out after years of being a father to them. But how do you ask your partner to get a paternity test and not have that negatively impact the relationship? I totally get it if a couple was on and off, for example, and both were dating other people and then got back together, and she got pregnant right away. But if there was no reason to suspect the chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:11 PM
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Fight for joint custody, for the child you have doubts is even yours. Solid plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 07:31 PM
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And you are paying child support for dumping her because she refused the test. Plus whose to say she won’t meet someone else so can’t say for sure the child would grow up in a single parent household. If you don’t trust your partner not to cheat, then sure, ask for the test, but also ask yourself why you are with someone you don’t trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:07 PM
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Sure, you can ask for this test, and she may agree, but don’t be surprised if it has a negative impact on the relationship. Especially if the child is his. How do you think she would feel knowing that her partner assumed that she was out cheating on him? What will go through her mind if he decides he wants to have another child? ‘This guy wants to create another child with me but clearly doesn’t trust me’. Wtf? Imagine proposing marriage to a woman, and before she agrees, she asks you to take a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:19 PM
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Wait. So, she tells his peers about her past dating choices but doesn’t tell him, and the peers don’t tell him? Or, the peers knew her from before? This seems like a very specific situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:43 PM
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But if the husband is unaware and didn’t know his wife earlier, then how does he know she would not have chosen him earlier? Makes no sense. I can understand if he knew her in the past and she rejected him then 20 years later she wants him, but if they didn’t even know each other before dating..?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:13 PM
1

Where are you getting your info from?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:07 PM
2

Basically the same yeah. The gold digger has a longer game going usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:06 PM
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I have no doubt that it’s harder for men to date vs women. Men have to approach more, less options, competing with other men more etc. I can see, from that perspective, why some guys think that paying for it is an easier option. And yes, paying for sex is an easier option but when you talk about cuddles and love etc, that’s the part that needs to be removed from your goal if you decide to go that route. I think if you look for that kind of lovely dovey stuff from a sex worker, you will feel wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:52 AM
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I agree that if a woman wants a man with a stable job she herself should have some stability as well. Bring something to the table. I don’t subscribe to the ‘I’m a queen’ mentality. I knew that I needed to have something to offer as well, not just my presence. No, no one should be with a man only for his resources, unless, he’s ok with that or it’s a sex worker situation like OP is discussing. But women who played around and want to settle down with a guy who they didn’t choose to play around wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:44 AM
0

Would you prefer to date the fat girl at the gym before or after she loses the weight? Most men would prefer the end result, and not want her while she’s still grinding (aka trying to lose the weight). A woman who wants a guy who has his life together is the same thing as a guy who wants a girl after she has lost weight. Some men will happily date easy party girls but when they want a wife, that’s not who they look for. They look for the girls who are not out sleeping with other guys every weeke…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:16 AM
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I don’t think that’s how it is for most common men at all. Most men are not celibate in college, unless this is a new thing or the college is BYU or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:57 AM
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One is hiring someone to do a job, the other is not. For many men, the upside is not having to pay a woman to pretend to like them. Also, love and paid sex don’t go together. I think it’s emotionally dangerous for men to seek genuine feelings from someone who wouldn’t even give them time of day if they weren’t being paid to. You also don’t get it whenever you want it because you are either one of several customers she spends time with or, in the case of a sugar baby, you are literally arranging …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:18 AM
3

Some people, of all genders, gravitate towards shit people. But not all people are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:01 PM
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What I’m getting from this is if you want to live somewhere where you can marry more than one women, beat women, and sexually harass women, then move to a country where that’s legal. I mean these are the examples that you yourself gave.. :/. Dang…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:02 PM

Older men going after 18-30yr old women doesn’t mean that those women want them, so I don’t think younger men have anything to worry about because the vast majority of women choose men close to their own age. It’s not really a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:30 PM
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Ok yeah I get what you mean now. Basically having control of your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:00 PM
3

Based on your list the purpose driven man minus the stoicism. I don’t think a limited range of emotion is required to be on your purpose. Peacocking, and in particular putting other men down to look better, is a very pathetic look and a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:05 AM
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Most guys I have met in my early 20s were in university like me. They were focused on school and dating and having fun when they weren’t studying and in class. So no, I would not notice guys at that age who wanted to settle down and get married because they didn’t seem to be around my circles. I knew a couple of Jehovah Witnesses though, through my part time job back then and they seemed to marry young, but outside of religious groups it really was not a thing that I saw. There were guys who wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:05 AM
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That’s my understanding as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:52 AM
2

I think it’s like 2.5 yrs or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:52 AM
1

I didn’t say it was the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:46 AM
4

Most women marry men not that much older than them. Within 5 years I believe? There’s stats on it somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:39 PM
2

Maybe it’s different where you live then. In Toronto this is not common at all with men, aside from religious men. Most women I know got married in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:37 PM
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Ok. So women in their early 20s follow this advice and look for men to settle down with. How many men in their early 20s are ready for a wife and kids? Because that’s who those women are going to be looking to settle down with. Men close to their own age. And, as far as I can see, outside of traditional and religious communities, most men in that age group are not interested in settling down, even if a woman wanted them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:24 PM
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Some do say that. And many say they want one decent girl for a relationship. It’s a mixed bag that’s not red pill based. My point is not every guy wants to fuck lots of girls in a Chad led soft harem. Some guys want girlfriends/ relationship/ marriage etc. Some guys value something more, in addition to the sex. One isn’t necessarily better than the other, it’s just different. Edit: I read some of your other posts. Literally you are referencing chad in almost every one of your posts. That’s overk…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:52 PM
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Did I say that they can’t? Is that all you got from my post? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:23 PM
1

Most women are not interested in committing to a man who is sleeping with other women. Most women are not interested in being in a harem. Many women actively avoid dating players. Women who are actively dating players tend to be players themselves. If you check out the relationship subreddit or any relationship advice site that is not geared towards a particular pill you will see that most women are not advising each other to ditch decent guys for ‘chads’. In fact, ‘Chad’ doesn’t exist there. Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:14 PM
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Oh, and we have a Stacy now. You think you’re the only self claimed red piller who stumbled out of an RP echo chamber and vomited generic red pill rhetoric with broad claims and percentages to a mixed pill subreddit? It’s not original nor interesting. And, most importantly, it’s not going to sway anyone’s opposing opinion because it never does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:53 PM
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Yawn.. The Chad clause appears again. If you’re one of those who assumes that the non committal ‘Chad’ is every woman’s ideal partner then there’s no where to go with this dialogue. I don’t think you know much about women or dating, but I bet you know alot about the red pill huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:42 PM
2

You don’t know women then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:23 PM
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A woman only sees a guy once a week or something for sex and thinks she’s the only one? Nah, she’s keeping her options open and meeting other guys. Guys who think they are ‘maintaining’ a harem are most likely just enjoying sex with women who are still meeting other guys and hooking up with them, and, like him, they’re not disclosing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:56 PM
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And woman also want men they are physically attracted to. We have eyes you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:19 PM
2

Get the best you can find who is actually attracted to you physically, whether now at your current weight or later when you are more fit. Don’t use your money to make up for what you lack in physical attractiveness unless you are ok with being used for your money. Physical attraction should be the goal. As for your standards, I wouldn’t say they are too outrageous but if you are not finding women who who meet them, then it means that for you, personally, they are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:16 PM
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Eh, it’s kind of weird. And I think most people of all genders see it that way even though it is legal. I find that people are less likely to be weirded out when the age gap is with a woman who is more mature, like a 30yr old woman with a 50 year old man Most 18 year olds are at a completely different life stage and mind set than people in their 30s so it seems more concerning, like is he actually looking for a life partner or someone to control, and does she have daddy issues, is she vulnerable…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:14 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:11 PM
4

Hahaha yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:09 PM
4

A few of them maybe, but not the types of younger women they can get with their fame and money, not young models for example. Personally I don’t think Leonardo would be able to attract most women if he wasn’t rich and famous. He’s flabby and bloated looking, and is less than average in looks. Bruce Willis is alot older than him but looks better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:39 PM
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Are there red pill dating gurus who can pull any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:33 PM
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Personally for me it doesn’t increase my sexual attraction if I don’t find then physically attractive. I think some woman who want the fame and money find ways to tolerate sex with men they are not attracted to, if the benefits outweigh the costs. And some probably genuinely are attracted to them sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:27 AM
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Well yeah, but men and women have been cheating for years. It’s not right but if you don’t sleep with them, someone else will. If if bothers you, and I can understand why it would, try to screen more but then there’s still no guarantee. One option is to look for couples who swing. That way, they are not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 10:04 PM
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Most women are not interested in being plates forever. There’s no incentive to give up on finding a relationship with guy who wants to commit, just to be a plate for a guy who doesn’t. I don’t mean to sound harsh but the reality is dick is not a hot commodity for most women, relationships are. So if there is little benefit for her to be exclusive (ie she’s just a plate, fuck buddy etc), she WILL keep her options open and the plate will break when a better deal comes along. Also, players attract …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:21 PM
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Living life like a normal person outside of Reddit. OP needs to step outside of the RP echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:53 PM
1

I wasn’t in the popular group, though my social circle did intersect with the popular group due to shared after school activities. I was in our book club and drama club and a few of my male friends played hockey. We didn’t really have an outsider group due to the very liberal accept everyone vibe of the school. But for some reason a lot girls still dumbed it down for guys and it usually only attracted the wrong kind of guy or put off the decent guys lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:07 PM
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But women do say that. The average woman wants a man, but doesn’t want to need a man. I would think guys would be ok with that, but there are some guys here who for some reason find it off putting that the woman who they are using for sex with no intention of ever being with long term doesn’t need them. It’s a paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:57 PM
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My mother said the same thing to me after my Aunt (her sister) was dumped by her husband of 10+ years for another woman and left Canada to move to Texas. My Aunt had no education, was a stay at home mom with two kids. She had to start all over again. She did get remarried and now has a degree and a good job but it was hard going for a while. So yeah, it’s very wise to make your own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:29 PM
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When I was a teen I was told by my peers not to appear smart, be bubbly all the time. And not to put any pressure on guys I was dating, basically not push for a relationship too early, just go with the flow and let him bring up relationships. Also, pretend to be interested in what interested him. So I had to act, basically, which after a while was kind of depleting and put me off of dating for a while until I met guys as my true self and it didn’t go up in flames like I was taught it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:22 PM
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Your girlfriend did not reveal female nature, she revealed HER nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:26 PM
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If you explain why you are not initiating she is less likely to think it’s her. Not say anything will lead to her assuming you don’t want to be with her sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:53 PM
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It’s not for me personally but I don’t have an issue with couples who want that. It’s none of my business. Some RP guys seem to want women who fulfill traditional gender roles (housewife etc) while they themselves have no interest in fulfilling the male side of traditional gender roles (ie be the sole provider). We didn’t have traditional gender roles in my family. Both parents worked and everyone had to do the dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:15 PM
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Does research actually use the term ‘beta buxxing,? No, because the world typically doesn’t associate marriage and provision for your family as beta buxxing. But the red pill does. So while there may be data for husbands, there is in fact no data for beta bux. Some men actually want to get married and have a family and actually work to put a roof over their heads. Many of those men marry women who also work and contribute financially. The reality is married men are not seen in a positive way in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:21 AM
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In a condo, no yard so no mowing. No fireplace so no wood chopping. I take out the trash he takes out the recycling. I remove spiders (usually out to our balcony). He does 99.9 of the cooking and dishes. I do the laundry 100% of the time. He vacuums and dusts, I clean the bathrooms. We basically do what we prefer to do and take turns doing the stuff we don’t prefer to do, like washing floors and changing bed sheets. He’s ok with the bathroom being a bit dirty but I’m not so I will do that more b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:17 PM
1

Well that is a better option. Another reason to make your own money and rely on yourself financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:14 PM
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No one says men have to be in relationships with women who don’t have careers/ decent paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:13 PM
1

Yeah living on your own means is an option. I would prefer that over maid service just because he makes more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:11 PM
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Well, that’s always an option for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:20 PM
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Righto. So, with the kids you are raising, the amount of work only amounts to part time hours then? Including the housework? How many kids do you have? Do you include the on call hours? You know, like when one of your kids wakes up with a fever or vomiting, that kind of stuff? How are you managing to do the housekeeping and childcare within part-time hours? Maybe you have some tips for the rest of us?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:29 PM
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You literally compared childcare and housework to having a part time job. Motherhood includes childcare does it not? If I’m missing something here, then please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:21 PM
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How many kids are you caring for part-time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:11 PM
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Wow….. How many part time Mom’s do we have here? Hey, my shift is over, sorry toddler with a dirty diaper and sorry undone laundry, you’re someone else’s problem now. Dishes still in the sink? Yeah I’ll get to them when I’m back at work day after tomorrow. Oh, the baby needs to be breastfed at 2am, tough luck, they will have to wait until my next shift starts. I only work part-time remember? I can’t even lol….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:54 PM
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Right, ‘The Chad Clause’, where all excuses land :/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:44 PM
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Really? So it’s out of his control then? He can’t marry a fellow doctor or someone with the same career values as him because of hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:37 PM
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Why is he choosing someone like that then? If he values the kind of sacrifice required to have a good medical career, or any career, why would he choose someone who is the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:34 PM
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Boo hoo he has to do laundry. He’d have to do that stuff if he was single. If this is such an issue then the option is to be with someone who makes the same. Everything 50/50 including finances. Or, just date causally and hire a maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:31 PM
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So the man should find a woman who makes the same as him then. This is what she’s saying to you. If this is what’s important to you, don’t have a relationship with woman who makes far less so you won’t have to except the maid because of your higher salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:03 PM
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Because it’s about the time requirement of chores. It takes time to do all the household chores. A higher income doesn’t remove that time requirement. Two people make the mess, cleaning up benefits two people. If you live alone you still have to clean up after yourself right? So if you do the family laundry you’re also washing YOUR dirty clothes right? This is called adulting. Yep, chores suck but they still have to be done. If both partners work the same amount of hours and have the same amount…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:48 PM
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Unless you know all of them then you don’t know that. You do you. Nothing wrong with casual arrangements with a single mom if they both want that, but also nothing wrong with a committed relationship with a single mom if they both want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:25 AM
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A lot of men do commit to single mothers though, but if she’s only looking for something causal then it works out great for men who only want something casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:11 AM
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But how many guys her age age also looking to settle down? Why is this part ignored when this point comes up about women not settling in their early 20s? Most women want men close to their own age. If a 25yr old woman wants to settle down and pop out kids she’s going to struggle to find a man her same age who wants to start doing that, unless he’s religious/ traditional. Women in their early 20s looking for marriage and kids aren’t seeking out 35 year old men for this. It goes both ways, men and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:15 PM
4

That’s ok. I found a good recipe for chilli on a red pill site so….
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:04 AM
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My friend’s dad was like that. Hardly around when she was small and needed more care. Years later he tried to have a relationship with her but she felt no connection nor interest in him and considered her stepdad her real Dad because that’s who raised her. She even named her son after her stepdad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:21 PM
3

My best friend, my sister, and my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:12 PM
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I think a lot of guys read red pill content but don’t follow it religiously or take much of it seriously. If he’s learning how to self improve and have some boundaries and self respect and standards that’s ok, but TRP didn’t invent that advice, it’s been around for ages, so I would wonder why he needed to go there to get that advice. If I went on a date and the guy said he was red pill, that would be a deal breaker. I mean anyone actually labelling themselves that way to a woman on a date is a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:18 PM
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I personally see no reason to hate your MGTOW life as you described it. And for what it’s worth, women who decide to forgo committed relationships to seek happiness outside of men get hated on as well. The MGTOW group has alot of men who rant online about how shitty women are, so there is an assumption that MGTOW is just a bunch of women hating men who can’t get girlfriends and use the MGTOW forums to vent their resentment . Maybe there should be a subgroup for men like yourself with a focus on …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:33 PM
2

This is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:37 PM
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No coach but I am inspired by things my friends and family accomplish so I use that as motivation for self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:50 PM
1

Did he have a chronic condition or something? I don’t know much about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:36 PM
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He was a big fish in a small pound. Sad that a seemingly healthy man died suddenly like that but I don’t think he was making that much of an impact with his theories outside of the echo chamber and overall isn’t going to be leaving a void in a society where 99.9% of people have never even heard of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:15 PM
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Is that your plan? To blimp out and just buy affection or do you yourself workout and make an effort to be fit? Is the juice worth the squeeze for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:44 PM
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Maybe that’s the case where you live? I literally can count on one finger how many women I know who want to be stay at home mothers. This is probably common in traditional/ religious communities but not the norm in secular society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:29 PM
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What if I told you some women actually want to go to school and work? Pretty or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:04 PM
1

Maybe if you are casually dating someone you don’t see regularly but in a serious relationship? You would be drained. It’s not sustainable for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 11:06 AM
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It sucks but I don’t see it as manipulative. If he purposely lead her on with lies that’s different. Him wanting a relationship doesn’t mean he decides he wants it with her, and that goes both ways. Brenda most likely bounces back pretty quickly from all of those scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:59 AM
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I think that would be mentally and emotionally exhausting to maintain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:54 AM
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And that’s not healthy. Men absolutely should care about their health. And many men do in fact care. Bottling shit up, not caring about your health hurts you most of all. There should be more places for men to get support. More men’s support groups etc that’s a safe place for them to share and show emotions. I’m not saying they have to sit around a box of Kleenex and cry, but having a place to talk about stuff and not be told to ‘suck it up bitch’, is helpful and needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:56 PM
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That’s not healthy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:45 PM
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For some guys it is I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:29 PM
2

Ok then…..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:28 PM
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I live in Toronto, honestly, it’s a coin toss here. I have seen more men than women lose their temper and I have seen more women cry. Both relate to sensitivity and letting emotions get to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:22 PM
3

That’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:18 PM
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I don’t know about that. I have seen lots of men get offended by other men who provided feedback when they can’t grasp a concept. I’ve seen this at university, work etc. I don’t think that’s a gendered thing, I think it’s a sensitive person thing. Maybe where you work the vibe is different. You mentioned STEM, maybe women feel they have to prove themselves more there and are more touchy about things? I’m just speculating, I’m not in the field, but I really don’t believe that this is a gendered t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:10 PM
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So when a guy shows emotion or doesn’t understand something complex, they piss you off? How do you deal with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:56 PM
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You had me until ‘put the extra ten minutes to explain more complex issues’. It reminds me of the story I shared here a while ago about a man in a bar explaining the concept of a particular hockey strategy to a woman who, unbeknownst to him, was an Olympic gold medalist hockey player for Team Canada. That’s great that you take the time to do those things and it’s great that these women appreciate it, but I bet it you prefaced it with ‘I’ll take some extra time to explain it to you as it’s comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:48 PM
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What you are describing sounds like a fantasy. The reality is more messy and yeah it’s wrong for both people, more so the person who is cheating but the other person is also in the wrong. I think you have this vision in your mind of how good it could be but it’s much more likely not to be what you imagine it to be. Fantasy is always better than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:59 AM
1

That’s assuming those women who rejected him pursue him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 10:52 AM
1

If you’re lowering your boundaries out of fear, that’s not good. She probably will lose him to someone more sexually compatible, but that’s better than feeling pressured to do something she is not ready to do based on anxiety of losing him. That’s not the best way to start a healthy sexual relationship with someone. I think he should find someone who is not waiting for marriage. Maybe my example of a guy with lots of girls isn’t the best one but I was trying to point out that quantity doesn’t ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:30 PM
1

How do you get comfortable enough to let your boundaries down if he’s seeing other women? Seems like one would have their guard up even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:46 PM
1

That’s good to know lol :).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:43 PM
1

A guy in one of my university classes had lots of girls. But he sold meth so those girls where all addicted to drugs. The only women who saw any value in him were the women buying his drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:21 PM
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Or, she can stick with her boundaries and find a like minded guy. Think about it. If you had certain boundaries and a girl tried to use dread on you to get what she wants despite your boundaries, what would you do? According to him she is a hot young girl. She has options. I think he should date other girls but not as dread. I think he should find someone with whom he is more sexually compatible. I understand from his perspective that waiting is not his thing. But it is her thing, what’s wrong w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:53 PM
1

Dread game can cause a girl to like you less. Especially girls looking for a relationship. I know girls who dropped guys who used dread. The only girl I know who didn’t drop the guy was his FWB and sleeping with other guys anyway so she didn’t care and certainly didn’t try to compete for him, she was busy playing games too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:03 AM
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Nah. If she’s a hot 20yr old she’ll just move on. Lots of guys would be interested in her. Applying dread in that way will likely backfire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:06 AM
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‘She was clear about waiting until marriage. Whatever.’ There’s the problem. She communicated a boundary, and rather than respect it, you focused on removing it, she let you get so far in that and probably realizes that she went too far and doesn’t know how to go back. If you really like her, then you either respect her boundaries or move on and date women who aren’t waiting until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:24 AM
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If they won’t see you unless you pay them, then it’s a straight up arrangement of affection/time for money. Subtle or not. If you go to their subreddit you will see posts on how soon to arrange for allowance or what the financial agreement will be and the advice is almost always at the first meeting or as soon as they both decide to enter into an arrangement. They warn women not to schedule future dates until the financial arrangement has been established. It’s not as forward as a hooker telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:53 PM
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Wasn’t it you who posted that guys can’t get it up for women they don’t find attractive? So no. For me personally, I wouldn’t be convinced if I had to pay the guy. The fact that I have to pay tells me all I need to know about how genuine his attraction toward me is. And I want to clarify that when I said a woman is not desperate enough to pay, I don’t mean to imply that men are that desperate. I honestly think that a lot men who pay don’t see it as being desperate because they care less if she r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:42 PM
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Yeah, I’m not saying there are no hot older men out there. But the ones who are fat and ugly are likely to be paying more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:35 PM
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Genuine interest from a young male vs fake interest. If a woman can’t get genuine interest from a young male, she’s not likely to pay for fake interest. But many men will pay for fake interest. There’s a reason why the clientele of the sex industry has been 99.9% male since time. It’s because women are much less interested in having men pretend to want them. So even if she’s desperate for young male attention, she’s not desperate enough to pay for it. There are exceptions but in general, paying …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:26 PM
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They do that so they can determine how much money they will ask for. Check out the sugar subreddit. The older and/ or uglier he is, the more they want as an allowance, if they decide to go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:13 PM
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Women want to be genuinely desired by a man they’re attracted to. Paying for fake desire is not appealing to most women so there’s no real market in the sex trade for men selling sex to women. Even male sex trade workers have male clients. It’s not a thing for women. Maybe that will change at some point, who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:35 PM
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That, like you emphasized, guys who want to get laid won’t care. Especially if she’s hot. Most guys aren’t going to say ‘ no thanks’ to a hot girl who says ‘bruh’ and ‘dude’ if she’s interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:56 PM
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I honestly think that most guys who want to get laid won’t care if she says ‘bruh’ or dances on tik tok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:36 PM
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I don’t think you’re interested in having your view changed so, like I said before, don’t get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:56 AM
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I see. So this is just a post to shit on women then, disguised as a ‘Change My View’.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:37 AM
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Then don’t get married. Lots of people are opting out of marriage and just living together. There’s no law that says you have to get married. This topic comes up a lot here, with someone posting about the downfalls of marriage and arguing it like they will convince others and they never succeed in that. People who are pro marriage will be pro marriage regardless of what you say. People who are anti marriage will be anti marriage regardless of what is said to them. You do you. Don’t get married. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:14 AM
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If that’s the angle you were going for then why didn’t you just say average guy and not use terms like LVM and pickme? An average guy isn’t low value, most guys and girls are average. To me, a LVM is a POS. Most men are not a POS.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:25 AM
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I don’t know anyone picking number 2. There are lots of well known high value men who don’t seem to be with a harem of women with whom they have kids. The closest I have seen was Hugh Hefner but not sure if paying models a salary to date you counts as a harem (and half of them had secret boyfriends anyway). Also, he was old af so not high value in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:46 PM
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I’d choose being a single parent over sharing a man or being with a low value one. I make a decent salary so it wouldn’t ruin me financially to be a single parent and I would get to have a child without having to deal with the crap options you listed for having a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:41 PM
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They’re in good shape but their faces are rough looking. Doesn’t do anything for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 11:29 PM
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Too funny lol. So this is just a masturbatory work of fiction then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:32 AM
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So, not using a condom, potentially impregnating multiple foreign women (in a country you don’t live in and have been in ‘a few times’), and very potentially getting STDs are the red pill principles you are highlighting here??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 12:32 AM
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Guy, “ Have you ever done a threesome before?” Girl, “ Yes I have.” Guy, “Cool, would you do it again.” Girl, “Yes, sleeping with two guys was fun, so for sure if you’re into threesomes I’m down to do it again.” Guy, “Uh…” Because her threesome doesn’t necessarily mean two girls one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 07:37 PM
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This. Can’t have your SAHM then whine when the marriage ends and she wants half. The best way to prevent losing a lot of money in alimony is to marry someone who actually makes a decent income and can’t argue a good reason why she needs your money. But the same men who complain about alimony are usually the same men who don’t want a wife who has a career that pays good money 🤷🏽‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:48 PM
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You know that goes both ways right? I know someone who is paying spousal because her ex husband became injured and could no longer work in his field. They both mutually agreed that he would do free lance editing work that allowed him to be home with the kids after school while she continued with her very well paying job. His free lance job was ok but no where near the level of money she was making. Don’t assume that these polices only affect men negatively. Judges are required to make decisions …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:41 PM
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Exactly. The prenup is supposed to protect both people. Each person having their own lawyer to look at it and make sure it’s in the best interest of their clients. No lawyer is going to let a client sign a prenup that states he or she will be left with no child support, for example. It’s a mutually agreed upon contract, hence requiring a signature from both people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 02:45 PM
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No that was crazy. That’s why it made headlines.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:25 PM
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Yeah. I don’t know why some guys here think prenups will ensure they get to keep everything while she’s tossed to the streets. Maybe that’s why some of them know prenups can be invalid, because they certainly are under those circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:07 PM
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Child support yes, alimony, not necessarily. It’s not an automatic legal requirement to pay alimony after divorce. It’s on the person wanting alimony to prove that they are entitled to it. If he or she quit work to raise kids, for example, they have a stronger case than a partner who had a good paying job throughout the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 12:59 PM
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Here’s an article about what can get prenups tossed: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jefflanders/2013/04/02/five-reasons-your-prenup-might-be-invalid/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 12:51 PM
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You do realize that Sharia law isn’t limited to controlling women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 09:50 PM
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It could be a sign of something yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 01:25 PM
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You said if the attraction fades move on. What if there is conflict in the relationship that’s affecting attraction? Is it better to just leave rather than trying to deal with the conflict first? What if one partner is under stress and just not feeling it at that time? I agree that if there is no attraction to move on but do you think there should first be some attempt to get to the bottom of it before ending the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 01:18 PM
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Sometimes attraction ebbs and flows. Conflict, stress, getting on each other’s nerves, all of this can affect attraction at any given time. Just because someone is not in the mood one day doesn’t mean it’s forever. I think guys with relationship experience can relate to this too. She does something that annoys you and you just want some space, the attraction level isn’t that high at that time. Same with women. For me personally if I’m annoyed by him I’m not that attracted at that time. Same for …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:34 PM
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True. I gave blow jobs when I didn’t want to bother with sex if I wasn’t feeling it due to some tension or decrease in attraction. It was like pacifying him for 5-6 minutes so I can go on with my day or evening. I’m not saying that’s a good thing but I have done this, yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:38 AM
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If that’s what makes you happy then go for it, as long as the women are not being forced into it. I’m not sure how you can tell the difference between a woman selling her body of her own free will and a woman being forced to do it, maybe if she doesn’t have a pimp that’s a good sign? I honestly don’t know but there must be online resources that lists the signs that a woman is being trafficked. ‘Is there something that a relationship provides that a sex worker cannot provide?’ Yes, a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 10:48 AM
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The study on the mating behaviour of prairie voles was kind of interesting, all shit aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:44 AM
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The first link seems to apply to both male and female. The second link is a study on rodents…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:19 AM
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If that’s how you feel then casual no strings non exclusive hook ups is more suited to you, would you say? I mean that way, neither person sees it as anything more than what it is and both get what they want without having to invest much of anything. No one has to suffer in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:06 AM
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One one hand, these guys say that women who have had several sex partners can’t pair bond. One the other hand, these guys promote NOT pairbonding with any women and just dating several at the same time and treating them like plates, or having one and dominating her, holding ‘frame’ not showing emotion, making her do all the work to maintain the relationship, using dread to let her know she can be replaced…. So, they don’t seem to actually want to pair bond anyway themselves so 🤷🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:21 AM
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I agree with not taking her out to a fancy dinner as a first date. Personally as a female I would find that too much of a time commitment for a first meeting anyway. Coffee/ walk/chat as first date is nice. But men need to vet for users just as women need to vet for users. In ideal world, women wouldn’t string men along for free dinners and men wouldn’t string women along for no strings attached sex. But we don’t live in an ideal world, and the dating pool is littered with crap so you have to sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:06 PM
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Not all women will be fearful of a comment from a man, but some will. I don’t think we should expect women to lower their guards and swallow their inner feelings so that men can easily approach them. I think it’s more realistic to learn to read social cues from the woman and proceed from there. No one is going to be arrested for saying ‘hello beautiful’. Some women will respond favourably and some won’t but it’s a coin toss, like dating in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:01 PM
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Exactly. My understanding of cold approach is communicating with a women to get a date, not a friendly hello in the Starbucks line up. It’s what happens after the ‘hello’ that is of interest here. For example ‘hello’ she says hello back and each goes on with their day. That’s not cold approach. He says hello, she says hello, he asks her her name, that’s more like a cold approach with intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:29 PM
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This. It’s one thing to cold approach but another to not take a hint that she’s not interested. No one wants to be followed around a mall by some random dude who can’t read social cues (this happened to me more than once). How would you feel if some random guy followed you around trying to chat you up and wasn’t taking a hint? Unfortunately guys like this make it bad for guys who know the difference between cold approach and creeping out. It only takes one really creepy experience for a woman to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:11 AM
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Where do you live that young women are getting swooped up by decades older men? This is not a phenomenon that I have noticed in the West. The average age gap between couples in the West is less than 5 years. Most young women are dating men closer to their own age because that’s what they prefer. Some date much older men, but that’s the exception, so unless you live somewhere very conservative and traditional where young women are looking for providers I don’t think you are at a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:21 AM
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You’re right that multi dating is more common in the US than the UK and other parts of Europe. Maybe this is why this seems strange to you, if you are not from the US. I once liked this Danish guy who I sensed liked me too but he never asked me out. I learned from his friend that in Denmark it’s very common for men to wait for women to make the first move (which is the opposite in the US and Canada). So I asked him out and we dated for a while. It was weird to me personally but hey, I got that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:20 PM
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If he’s not pushing for exclusivity and she really likes him, she may ask him where things are going. She will want to know that there’s something worth putting all her eggs in your basket. I’m sure many guys feel the same way when they are dating. However, keep in mind that we women have been taught NOT to scare men away with the ‘where is this going talk’, so depending on the woman, she may not ask and just look for signs that he really likes her too. If he’s one of those idiots who decides to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:08 PM
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Very good point. I once dated this guy who after a few weeks told me he wasn’t looking for anything serious but liked spending time with me blah blah. I didn’t ask him where it was going, he just volunteered that info. I didn’t stop dating him because he was fun and attractive, and the sex was good, but I kept my guard up as I knew it wasn’t going to go anywhere. I didn’t make much of an effort to see him or get to know him that much and didn’t share much about myself. I also went on other dates…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 01:34 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:49 PM
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Yes, no guy or girl should commit if there’s no emotional connection. If you were with a girl that you are not necessarily seeking commitment from, would you be ok with her dating other people? Like basically it’s a causal thing where you both sleep with other people in addition to each other. I have nothing against that because that works for some people, just asking if that works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:46 PM
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So if you were seeing an attractive woman who had many options would you question why she should commit to just one guy? Would you demand it, or try to earn her commitment by your actions and treatment towards her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 12:26 PM
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I understand from that perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:52 AM
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I think everyone should believe in self improvement, standards and having boundaries as well as not putting others on a pedestal. Everything I said applies to how I feel women should be too, it’s just that the question was specifically about the RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:53 PM
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Female here: I find the RP advice around self improvement, having standards and having boundaries is valuable advice for men, not putting women on a pedestal and having a focus that isn’t about women is great advice. However there’s definitely a lot of distain for women, mainly from the guys who don’t want to work on themselves, who let their dicks do the thinking, and who prefer to just blame women for their own failures. Unfortunately, that view is more common than the self improvement/standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:41 AM
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Self defeating view that leads to self sabotaging your relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:56 PM
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This smells like a troll post now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:16 PM
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Or they simply are not interested in it. You are on this forum calling some posters sluts and now saying they are dumb. Why do you need to insult people to try to get a point across? You do you. Not everyone is interested in your vision of marriage or society. That’s totally fine that you want that, and you keep saying that you can easily get a virgin wife so go do your thing and respect that not everyone wants to live their life your way. There are billions of people and thousands of different …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:05 PM
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The other difference is that women in the west are much less likely to be gang raped, beaten and paraded around half naked in the middle of the street by a crowd of sexually repressed men. And you advocate less rights for women, in a place where honour killings occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:14 PM
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Dealing with periods was the worst part. The filling out physically was ok but my friend who got big breasts at age 13 was very self conscious over that. Unlike Carrie, I couldn’t move things with my mind but that would have been a pretty awesome puberty experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 07:04 PM
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This assumes that a bisexual man would not be treated badly by another man, which is not the case. Lots of gay/ bi men have dating horror stories of men they have been with. I agree though that they they can find sex much faster and easier with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:54 AM
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If you no longer had to ‘pay’ in some way for sex, what would that look like for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 09:00 PM
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Foreign women who are specifically looking to lock down western men know exactly how to use the system. They can play the long game of pretending to be innocent and naive while stroking his ego and other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:14 PM
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But those women will 100% want to lock it in with marriage. That’s their whole agenda to seeking western men. They have no interest in long term casual relationships where they can’t secure his wallet, unless they are stringing along several old guys who each send her money, and think she’s their girlfriend, and many of those women do just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:39 PM
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That’s because love is not unconditional. That’s the harsh reality. It doesn’t mean that people can’t or won’t commit to each other, but it does mean make it more challenging if a guy loses his job and doesn’t get another one or a woman gets fat and refuses to lose weight. It’s usually when one person refuses to fix the problem, that the other person wants to leave. Couples who are emotionally invested will usually try to get their partner to fix the issue, rather than just end it right away. Co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:30 PM
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Yeah I agree. I’m a parent and if I was single, dating another single parent would be less intimidating but if I didn’t have kids I would probably not date single Dads. I can understand it for men and women who don’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:09 PM
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If an older man and younger woman mutually agree to a conditional based relationship where her ‘love’ is tied to his money and his ‘love’ is tied to her youth, and they see it for the transactional arrangement that it is, I don’t see anything wrong with that. This is what sugar relationships usually are. It’s when men think it’s real love or genuine attraction to him as a person, with actual sexual attraction to his older body, and when the young woman thinks he actually likes her for more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:52 PM
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I agree but I don’t think that’s limited to single parents though. Lots of couples put their children before each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:59 PM
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Right, lord forbid any woman should actually want something in a relationship. Emotional support, help with shared children. We should just let guys fuck us, knock us up and walk away. That’s the vibe I’m getting from your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:25 PM
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I think when people pay for these kinds of services, by virtue of paying, they feel entitled to expect unrealistic results. Documentaries about romance tours in Europe had less than average looking men who paid big money to go on these ‘tours’, expecting models who would worship them. There’s some disconnect with both services that their money is going to ‘purchase’ a higher quality person because they are paying a ‘premium’ price for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 10:22 PM
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Doesn’t he pay for models to show at up at his parties and for photo ops? He throws lavish parties at mansions and yachts (he reportedly doesn’t even own) invites hot girls for free booze and drugs and whether else. He’s throwing money at women to hang around with him. A certain kind of woman is into this, women who want to be famous and have lots of insta followers and what not. That’s fine, but a lot of women are not into that. So if you are worried about someone like Dan stealing your girl, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:02 PM
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For sure there would be implications. They would have to train more people and you’re right it would take a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 12:32 PM
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I think those men would have more sex but I don’t think there would be multiple wives unless there was an economic reason why women needed to be married to them. And there likely would not be. Everyone would need to pitch in and contribute to keeping society going, filling roles that that need to be filled. Gender roles would greatly decrease because it would not make sense economically to have 90 percent of women home raising kids. I see women using men for their sperm and to get off when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 12:06 PM
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Can’t say the remaining men left on earth can do that job the either, unless they were already trained in that field. So if, say, 1% of the remaining men left had the STEM skills needed to keep society going, they would train whoever wanted to learn those skills, man or woman. Same if it was the other way around and 90% of women were gone. Most women are not trained nurses, so the existing nurses would train whoever wanted to learn, man or woman. Basically, wherever the skill shortages are, both…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:39 AM
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Oh. So the your reason for this post is…….. to insult women that you don’t want anyway, or..???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:06 PM
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Porn doesn’t fuck up a woman’s strategy. For every one guy who thinks like you there are at least 100 who have no issues with porn and having a healthy sexual relationship with a real life woman. What you are trying to make into an issue that you are essentially making women accountable for is not an issue for the vast majority of people. But hey, if it validates your porn use, more power to ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 07:24 PM
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The fourth explanation is that couples have been choosing to have fewer kids at later ages for a while now. Men are just as likely to want fewer kids and not start having them in their early 20s. And more men and women are choosing not to have any at all, compared to the past. People are more free to choose a child free life now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:00 PM
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That may be the case for some women, but women leave their rich and successful husbands for cheating all the time. Not all of us want to be hurt and humiliated just to stay in a nice house etc. And the reality is, she’s not going to be walking away penniless anyway. Lots of women leave with very nice settlements and move on with their lives finding new partners etc. Which goes to the point many are pointing out to you that men who cheat usually won’t leave because they know they can lose a lot f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:02 PM
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Women would rather be with the guy who cheats on her by paying women to fuck him, rather than the guy who can’t afford to pay for fake affection??? Wtf…. you could not be more wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:42 AM
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This is like a monthly CMV here. ‘What’s the point of marriage for men? (women are not worth marrying blah blah).’ Based on your comments about the burden of reproduction and having kids, plus the employer/ employee analogies and describing mutual emotional support as ‘fluff’, clearly, there is truly no point of marriage, for YOU. So why care what others think when you have made up your own mind about the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 04:24 PM
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Those are are important but many men in their early 20s are no more interested in providing for a family than are their same age female peers interested in being mothers, even if they could afford it. In my city we have lots of people in their 20s making good money in finance for example, but you don’t see them all starting families even when they can afford to. People are simply putting this off for longer than they did 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 01:26 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TOCCSFO4bEo The literal title of his YouTube video states otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:40 PM
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Wasn’t he the guy who said cheating was in men’s nature? I agree that it’s best to focus on yourself and not worry about people who aren’t attracted to you. That’s good advice for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:45 PM
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I don’t think most men even think like this. This is mostly what we see here in this subreddit and in the manosphere, which is a very small number of men within the total male population. But you bring up very good point about men shaming women who didn’t give men they are not attracted to a chance, and then same men accusing women of settling. That’s spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:09 PM
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The responsibility of having contraceptives falls on BOTH people. If this is not a responsibility that BOTH people are willing to take when they CHOOSE to have sex, then they shouldn’t have sex. The best way to prevent having to pay child support is both people taking responsibility for having sex that does not produce a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:24 AM
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Everyone has views on other countries’ governments. Canada is not perfect by any means, but our parental leave policy is a lot better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 11:18 PM
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Yes in those cases yes, you definitely have a point. But you didn’t make that distinction in your OP. Being a high value hot guy with options doesn’t mean he will cheat. There’s having options, and there’s having self control and integrity. To me, you are saying that high value hot men have neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:12 PM
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I think it’s best to offer to pay half. Sitting there, while the bill is handed to him (it’s usually handed to the guy) and not saying anything never sat well with me. I always offered to split the bill. 9 times out of 10 he declined that offer. But I felt better offering. If it was a guy I wanted to see again I would say that the next date was on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:07 AM
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My understanding is that companies are not obligated to provide long term paid leave, like 6 months or more. It’s just mandatory 6 weeks in some states. In Canada and other developed countries you get at least a year at a portion of your salary and some companies will top up your salary. In Canada government workers get top ups in addition to the mandatory 55% of their salary. The 55% is from our income tax. It boggles my mind that a country like the US doesn’t have something like that but I gue…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:58 AM
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America has one the worst maternity leave polices in the developed world, if not the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:20 AM
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Yes, women have always gone for older men but that not that much older. 2-5 years older seems to be the norm even throughout history in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:57 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:21 PM
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It doesn’t work for me. And my husband’s totally fine with that. It doesn’t work for him either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:57 PM
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It’s not surprising that they assume anyone in a realistic relationship is settling, because the red pill view of an ideal relationship is not realistic: Trad 21 year old virgin with a porn level enthusiasm for sex, who will be a SHAM and agree to a prenup where she gets nothing if she leaves him. Or, A harem of hot girls devoted only to him. Or, A devoted bang maid who will agree to a one sided open relationship. Anything else IS her settling, in their minds lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:05 PM
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It works well for couples into that power dynamic. It doesn’t work for people not interested in that kind of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:10 PM
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Hahahahahaha. Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:58 PM
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Premarital sex among women was on the rise way before the 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:22 PM
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Thanks! So the main points: Older guys benefit from more than just sexual stuff, (they get the caregiver when they’re elderly). Marriage is a shit deal for women if he’s much older or younger. Most women marry someone close to their own age so perhaps somewhere in our subconscious we knew this? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:44 AM
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There’s a paywall. Any way you can copy and paste if it’s not too long?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 12:47 AM
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Doesn’t seem like a good sell for women though, but I get your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:55 PM
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Wow……. 🤔🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:01 PM
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If she’s not into hook ups then she won’t go for it. If she is into hook ups, then yes, the guy who sells it better will get it. Like someone else above told you, have some charm and show an interest, even if you’re just doing it to get laid. You will have more success applying some kind of game then just flat out asking. I’m a female giving you game advice, as other females are doing. Even red pillers would tell you the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:59 PM
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Is there any time spent together before you ask to fornicate? (Please find another word if you ever decide to do this). I mean, are we on a date? Cold approach? First Tinder message?….
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:50 PM
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I agree. Here in Toronto you do see a lot of older men with serious money, but there’s also a lot of young men with serious money so you don’t see many young women with much older men, when there are younger guys who can offer something similar plus have that youthful energy that matches hers. There’s also lots of young women making good money and they are going for the guys their age who also make money. Here, power means living in the same area code as Drake, every other car on the road is a B…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:35 PM
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Why do high n count women have to justify anything to you? You have every right to have the standards that you have (we all have that right), and you found a woman who meets those standards it seems. Honestly, that’s great. So to shit on high n count women, to me, makes it seems that your purpose here is to try to make women feel bad for their sexual choices, women that you have zero interest in anyway. That’s what I don’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:55 PM
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I agree that high value men have more options, but I don’t think that automatically means that they will sleep with lots of women. I think for men who are not high value, who are not getting laid that much, for them, they assume that high value men are out sleeping with lots of women because that’s what they would do if they were high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:34 PM
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I’m not saying that you’re cheating on your wife, but you seem to be spending a lot of energy interacting with women online debating this topic. This is not your first post on this. How would you feel if she was posting on sites arguing with fuckbois? It just seems weird to me, your focus on this. Like I get making some comments here and there but you are starting threads on this. Why? What purposes does this serve for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:24 PM
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Dude you posted in another thread that your wife is insecure about your high n count and here you are making posts about high n count women. And engaging with high n count women as per your reports. How does that help your wife feel less insecure? You got your low n count wife and this is what you do? If you value low n count women and appreciate that your wife is low n count, why don’t you spend today showing that appreciation rather than focusing on women that you claim to distaste. She’s the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:14 PM
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Again, this is a thing men value much more. And unless you know every high value man, you don’t actually know what their n count is. Also, what some men, in particular red pill men, see as high value men is not necessarily what women see as high value men, as the criteria seems to be more about lay count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 01:07 PM
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I’m not a high n count woman, but I do thinks it’s interesting that you are so into this, when you have a low n count wife. Not sure why you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:57 PM
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There was a guy in college who would give free drugs to addicts just so he could sleep with them. High value? Not in the least. Again, men place value on other men who have high n counts. This is a more likely to be a crush men have for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:54 PM
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If high n count women are flaming you for this every day, what are you doing with your days, engaging with high n count women online or…. You have a low n count wife yet this is your focus. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:38 PM
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So high n count men = high value men? In what universe outside of the red pill is this true? Men value high n count men because they want whatever it is he has to get laid. There’s a lot more that goes into what women see as a high value man and it varies depending on what the woman is looking for. For some women high n count is more than a minor red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:30 PM
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Yes a rapist can be found in any political affiliation. But you are saying hypocrisy is the name of the liberal game, I’m saying it’s the same of the conservative game too. Essentially, rules for thee but not for me. There is hypocrisy in both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 10:40 PM
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I believe you. I grew up Catholic and went to Catholic schools. A classmate was sexually assaulted and was told it was her fault, by her own family.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:30 PM
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You have to remember though that we are talking about reported abuse. It’s not uncommon for victims of abuse in religious communities to not report due to shame and pressure from their community. Liberals are more likely to report abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:28 PM
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The same can be said for conservatives. All those pastors who got caught doing the very things they preached their members not to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:18 PM
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I know this is just one example but look at the Duggars, very conservative parents who treated the sexual abuse of their daughters by their son like it was sexual curiosity that lead to an awkward situation. If that in any way reflects the attitude the average conservative has about sexual abuse then it’s not a surprise that people within those communities would not see sexual abuse as sexual abuse, even on an anonymous survey. There are many forums of people who have left conservative communiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:15 PM
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That’s a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:13 PM
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Coochie roster lol 😂 Yeah if I was single and dating some guy who only texted me for logistics that wouldn’t fly after a few dates, if I was looking for some kind of connection. If I wasn’t looking for anything serious then I wouldn’t care, and most likely he would not be the only guy I was seeing. But for girls looking for more I can see this being an issue, because the other part of that red pill advice is to not to spend time with her too frequently because she’s supposed to wonder what you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 10:34 AM
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Thanks for sharing that. I know two men with younger women. Neither of them are red pill either. The red pill thinks it’s got the winning formula on landing much younger women, when it’s probably just chance, you meet and happen to click and she happens to be younger and interested in you. There’s an age gap subreddit that I once looked at. I didn’t see a lot of red pill themes there at all, which leads me to think those couples are not red pill leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:27 AM
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This guy is you right? Come on fess up…. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 07:49 PM
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He’s cute but based on his profile he looks like the type of guy that would wake me up at 4:30am for a spontaneous snow hike during a Canadian winter. Seems like he’s GO GO GO and that’s what would put me off but probably works for someone who is as active and spontaneous as him, which, let’s face it, isn’t most of us, guys or girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:00 PM
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Maybe she was drunk? Not every one night stand is because he was so high value alpha Chad hot that she couldn’t resist, like she was bewitched or something. In fact, I would say that most one night stands are nothing like that. A one night stand does not mean she will cheat if she meets a guy like the one night stand guy, even if she found that guy hot. If she’s going to cheat she’s going to cheat, even if she was a virgin and you were her first. If you had an awesome one night stand with a hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:44 PM
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Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:03 PM
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So the consequences of an action she regrets is to… do it again because she didn’t do that action with you? I think you are being unreasonable. It’s one thing is she always put out right away and didn’t with you, I can understand your point if that was the case. But a one time regret and she’s expected to do that again? What if someone expected you to do something you did once and regretted it? And they didn’t get why you didn’t want to do it again. Would you want to be with that person? Would y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:15 PM
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Didn’t answer the question about pegging. What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander, or is it, rules for thee but not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:11 PM
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What if she had a one night stand, regretted it, then never did it again? She’s suppose to now do something she doesn’t want to do with you because she did it once? If you let a girl peg you, didn’t like it and never wanted to do it again but your new girl found out and wants to peg you and says, “well, I want the same as what you did with the other girl.” Is that fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:21 AM
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Make it clear that you are looking for fast sex. Find like minded girls looking for the same. Hook up culture is alive and well in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:22 AM
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But you’re on the hook for child support even if you’re not married and you leave her, or she leaves you for that matter. If you don’t want to pay someone else anything after the relationship ends, don’t have kids with them, and don’t share any assets. Like you said it is possible. It’s even possible to have kids if you want to go the surrogate route. Of course that means that you will be raising them yourself, and there’s where the buck will stop with most men wanting to have a family without b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:36 PM
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Guy 1, Guy 5, Guy 9. Edit right I have to rate from hottest not nottest: Guy 5, Guy 1, Guy 9, Guy 4, Guy 7, Guy 8, Guy 3, Guy 6, Guy 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:35 PM
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No butt is a dealbreaker regardless of fitness level. Gotta have some grabbing meat in the back. Can you send pics of these examples? I need to see their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:23 PM
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Sometimes I’m not in the mood usually because I’m tired but will do it anyway. Sometimes he’s tired but will do it anyway. Sleepy sex can be soothing and just what’s needed to get a good nights sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:29 PM
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Ok so you’re meeting and dating young women, so marry one of them then. Not sure why you’re here whining about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 09:44 PM
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The existence of tits has nothing to do with breast milk and breastfeeding I guess :/.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:13 PM
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No, the targeted audience isn’t women, but women are the targeted recipients, so I can see how the manipulation tactics may have a negative affect on a woman and influence how she approaches dating. Much like a man who gets used for his money may have that negative experience influence how he approaches dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:02 PM
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I nuked a relationship before. Not my proudest moment. Learned from it though. Words can be very hurtful, gotta take a step back and cool off before speaking because once it’s out you can’t take it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:48 PM
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Yes. Exactly. I often feel here that all women are lumped in with Instagram models and other women who have strong social media presence. I think a lot of men in the manosphere follow women on Instagram and perhaps some try to date them. Those women are much more likely to be holding out for the top % of men. The average woman who is not posting bikini pics online with 15k + followers is dating average men. The average woman is the majority. But I think some men focus on what they see in social …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:12 PM
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I get that and I agree to making the best decisions for yourself and not others (that’s good advice for all of us) but the most loud and frequently posting red pillers post stuff endorsing spinning plates and pumping and dumping, so it gives the impression that this is valued over relationships. I admit that there are aspects of the red pill that’s good advice (although not unique to the red pill), but much of it does seem anti-relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:17 PM
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Fair point. But what people say online usually reflects their one sided perspective. I know a woman who complains like that but her standards are low and she goes for guys who are players so she does it to herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:29 PM
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There are attractive men who want relationships. It’s just such a foreign concept to some red pillers that an attractive man would choose a monogamous relationship over pumping and dumping as many women as possible, because that’s what they value and assume that any guy who can easily do that values it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:09 PM
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Yeah that would be a horrible situation. I know a Muslim whose parents did divorce over the father’s abuse. At first they did try to get them to work on it and for him go stop what he was doing (rather than expect her to just put up with it). He refused to change and her family didn’t shame her for divorcing him. In fact they wanted her to divorce him a lot sooner but she wanted to see if he would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:33 AM
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Do you think that’s a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:01 AM
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That’s a horrible situation for a woman who is with a man who treats her badly ie abusive etc. And it can go both ways with the man being pressured to stay with a woman who acts how she wants and treats him like crap. Many religions that discourage divorce, don’t just discourage women from doing it, they discourage the men from doing it as well. Religion isn’t the golden ticket for men who want an airtight way to tether a woman to them regardless of how they act. That can and does backfire.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:40 PM
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What do you mean it’s not beneficial for a man to act great before marriage and change afterwards unless he’s religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 11:17 PM
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AWALT. It covers both 1 and 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:44 PM
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I agree with you. This might work for gimpgirl but 99.9% of women have zero interest in financially supporting a man who fucks other women including prostitutes and calling that commitment. Trying to sell that idea to women is like trying to sell cigarettes to a cancer patient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:10 PM
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Everyone wants what they think will be the best deal. It’s no different then men happily and willingly sending money to hot women from other countries. They are blinded by whatever is being dangled in front of them so it’s easier to be played. It’s not about what people deserve, it’s about what is being offered or promised. Most of us, when offered something like a trip in a private jet, don’t say no because we don’t deserve it. This guy dangled a lavish lifestyle (who says no to expensive dinne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:17 PM
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I mean does he accept that a woman may also apply his concept to him when considering him as a partner. So anything he did in the past that she doesn’t think makes him a good choice, she can use as justification for rejecting him, as ‘all the past either matters or it doesn’t.’ If so, then fair enough. If not, then he’s a hypocrite. He didn’t reply so it’s not clear if he’s holding himself to this standard as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:17 AM
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How do you apply this concept to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:19 AM
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I have read many comments where they say women are less intelligent, less ambitious, less rational, less likely to be able to love someone, less interesting personalities, less able to manage money, less able to lead, less able to do jobs that are not female oriented, less able to raise sons, less able to reason. Literally have seen comments about how women never contributed to building civilization, never invented anything, can’t manage without men, need to be treated like children because that…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:49 PM
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I’m just not into guys who see women as less than them, and TRP ultimately does. My concern would be that my wish to be loved, cared for, and respected would simply not be met by a guy who is focused on running a game that’s intended to make me feel bad about myself and feel like he’s the best option. Like why choose that? Would you choose to be with a women who played games like that? TRP is not relationship oriented anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:48 PM
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For me it would be option 1. Mainly because I have no desire to rely on someone else financially nor want the responsibility of being the only one with an income, unless that income is 200k+ with excellent job security or we lived in a small town where 80k goes a long way. Because an 80k income in Toronto with three kids? We would be living like people on welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:23 PM
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Most women don’t expect the man to pay all the bills as well as do all the housework. This is why it’s important to observe what you see offline, not just what is posted on Reddit. It’s easy to talk about expectations within an echo chamber of like minded people (TRP is no different) but some of those expectations are not realistic. I personally have never met any woman who holds that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:18 AM
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Alcohol lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:40 PM
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I don’t thirst after men and look up pics of random guys but if there’s a male celeb I think is hot I will look for a shirtless pic of them. That’s about the extent of if. Also, women are more comfortable sexually objectifying men with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:18 PM
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Gay men who are part of the social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:14 PM
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No. Rejection is part of dating life for men and women. No one is God’s gift to the opposite sex. Also, your female friends don’t really sound like friends. And, your female co-worker is being inappropriate, call her on it and if she continues bring it up with HR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:05 PM
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They would be less likely to be clingy? Mostly because they will only contact you for ‘logistics’ lol. Which actually leaves lots of time to chat with other men. But don’t tell him that because no contact between dates is supposed to make us ponder over and desire him more or some shit, according to their manual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:53 PM
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The red pill doesn’t endorse relationships nor seem understand how one actually works so no, I wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:12 PM
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Unless the guy’s masturbation is having a negative effect on him and his relationships, then I don’t see the point of this nofap stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:30 PM
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Are you equating quality of life with sexual desirability? I don’t know anyone who would prefer a short life of casual sex and fun over a long life, period. That’s not to say that casual sex and fun is wrong, I just don’t know anyone who would literally prefer a short life for it. Maybe these are things you value which is fine, but it’s not necessarily something everyone else values. And I think you may want to look into actual quality of life studies to see how many factors are used to measure …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:49 PM
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People on average live long lives. The amount of time we spend in the ideal sexually desirable stage is a blip compared to the 60+ years we live after that. Yes everyone should strive to be healthy and look decent, but I don’t think not ‘stepping up’ is always a bad thing. People just realize there’s more to life and being a whole person than looking as fuckable as possible to as many people as possible. And oftentimes, higher expectations from both men and women mean a partner who brings more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 08:09 PM
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That’s not been what I have observed by older single women I know. Actively dating and having a sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:07 PM
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Well yeah lol unless your washing machine was broken and you had no other way to wash your clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 11:05 PM
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Lol if I was single he would not be leaving his dirty socks for me to throw in with my laundry. He would be leaving my place with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:34 PM
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‘Single’ doesn’t mean she’s not having sex or enjoying a man’s company and affection. It does mean she’s not washing his dirty socks though ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:25 PM
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For me, a FWB situation is not something that I would be investing much in so him being broke would be totally fine as it’s just sex. Because him being hot and me being attracted to him sexually is the basis of the whole thing, I would choose him over some less attractive guy who had a yacht or season tickets to an NBA team or whatever. Back in university I had an opportunity to hook up with a guy who was the brother of a well known professional athlete. He had access to tickets and exclusive cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:17 PM
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You put your question in the context of casual sex, short term hook ups. Why would a guy financially bail out a girl he’s just casually fucking? That seems more than casual to me. No, I never felt comfortable relying on anyone financially and I still don’t even with my own husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 10:27 AM
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If I don’t get tingles thinking about sex with them, it won’t matter how much status or wealth he has. Sexual attraction is required and I don’t fantasize about fucking money or VIP passes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:17 PM
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Most of the time when people dunk on it it is because the younger person is posting about some manipulative bullshit the older person is doing to them. I don’t see anything wrong in and of itself with an 18 yr old dating an older person as they are of legal age. It’s not illegal. What’s cringe is when men and women purposely seek younger people for the reasons others here have stated about the younger person being more naive etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:53 PM
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No, I agree with you. If I was a guy I would opt for dying alone over doing what OP is suggesting. I wouldn’t choose to share a man, even if it meant I would be single forever. Most people don’t want to commit to someone who is fucking other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:07 PM
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I think that would be a hard sell to the vast majority of men, and I’m saying that as a female. I don’t have to be a male to see that the average man would not really benefit from such an arrangement. For men and women who are into poly relationships, swinging etc then it works better for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:03 PM
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I like that most men are more chill in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:53 PM
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Wow. I’m just making a suggestion. Unclench.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:55 PM
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You don’t need to put ‘some’ but maybe not include ‘always’, like you did. ‘The sun always rises, women are always going to think…,’ You get what I mean? Not trying to be snarky but here people generalize so much that it is actually helpful to make those kinds of distinctions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:39 PM
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That’s not accurate at all. Lots of women enjoy casual sex with no expectation of a relationship. Think spring break or girls’ vacations. I very much doubt she thinks her romp with Rafael from Madrid is going to lead to a long term relationship when she’s going back to Chicago in a week. Lots of women are quite capable of just wanting sexual flings and even one night stands. It would be naive to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:05 PM
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Yes it is. He doesn’t need to put her on a pedestal though. I think there is a balance between showing love and being a simp. Showing affection, respect, showing that he cares for her doesn’t mean he has to give up his dreams or wallet and place her before himself in all things. The red pill is very black and white on this unfortunately, to the point where I have read posts of guys asking if it is beta to bring his sick girlfriend medicine:/. I have literally read advice suggesting that men not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:14 AM
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Depends on the wife and the husband. If the wife is someone who insists on doing things herself because he doesn’t ‘do it right’ ie chores, etc, then she’s takes on all the stuff and complains that he’s like another kid but she did it to herself by being a control freak. If the husband is lazy around the house and can’t or won’t do simple adult tasks like housekeeping or making medical appointments for himself or the kids, then he is in fact a second child and sex with him will be like another ‘…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:57 PM
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For young women in their prime who want to cook, clean, and make life easier for a man who they will be sharing with other women, it’s excellent advice. For the other 99.999999% of women, it’s irrelevant, useless advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:41 PM
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I agree that being independent and having our own income is very important and valuable to us for the reasons you stated. However, there’s a difference between being independent, valuing money and not needing a man and actually telling potential partners these things. To me, it says “here’s my 7 foot brick wall. Good luck.” No need to advertise these things, he will see it through her actions that she’s got a life that doesn’t revolve around men. And men who can’t handle that will weed themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:18 AM
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Remember that places where polygamy is legally practiced are places where women are already dehumanized and harmed. I’m against that too. But if a woman in a free western society wants to be the sister wife of some guy and she’s doing it of her own free will and not because of societal or religious or family pressure than I say she should be allowed to do that. It’s not something I personally have any interest in doing myself, but I think adults should be free to choose if it’s not hurting other…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:48 PM
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A husky body type with nice lips and a round bum. Nice smile. Having a beard a bonus. My height or a bit taller a bonus. Basically what my husband looks like except he’s taller than what I usually preferred but that’s ok I just need to remind him that not everyone can reach coffee mugs on the top shelf lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:43 PM
2

So, the father sells you his daughter without the daughter knowing? Is that what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:47 PM
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Women are less likely to want to invest in a guy who is broke. When it comes to how much money they would prefer a potential partner to have, it ranges from close to her own salary to millionaire level. Of course, some preferences are completely unrealistic lol. It really depends on the woman and ideally, sexual attraction plus attraction to what he has to offer is the best option. Back in the day when women had little rights and opportunity to make their own money, it was pretty much only about…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:33 PM
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Yeah. It doesn’t work that way usually. Blood is thicker than water, especially in transactional marriage arrangements like you are describing. The family will take priority over the man (or chump) who helped bring them all over. So don’t count on that working in your favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:23 PM
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It’s not us you need to ask. It’s her. If she wants to get married and the majority of us women say we would stay with a man who didn’t want to marry us, it’s not going to mean anything to her. She’s not going to change her mind because of Reddit answers to your question. I think you need to be upfront with her and communicate what you wrote here. You of course have a right not to get married, and she has a right to move on if it’s a deal breaker for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:16 AM
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Last season ended with the Handmaids doing something similar so it will be interesting to see the fall out from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:36 AM
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I can’t remember which episode it was but I think it was the first season: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0zu25OJVmGw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:27 AM
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I remember after the first season media outlets running articles about what if this actually happened. It’s an interesting post. I too think that there is already an element of dystopia in modern life. And when you consider books like 1984 and Brave New World you can draw parallels to the ‘Thought Police’, and ‘Big Brother’ in 1984 and the happy pills in Brave New World. It’s actually a bit scary how close those concepts are to what we see now in modern life with cancel culture, surveillance, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:45 PM
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So you’re basing your theory on one episode of a multi season television series? Watch the episode where the elite accuse an innocent man of rape and let the handmaids literally beat him to death in front in a large audience. Or the episode where one of the elite’s wife rats him out for having sex with his Handmaid outside of the approved time and ceremonial format and getting his arm cut off, also in front of an audience. Like most dystopian shows and books, only a small group of powerful elite…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:30 PM
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The story line of the first season is very close to the book however there are no black characters from what I recall. I think the series is great too. It’s filmed in and around my city so it’s very cool to have one of the settings actually be Toronto and also filmed in Toronto.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:16 PM
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Again, a question directed at the female members here like we are the ones who posted that. What they posted is shitty, they seem like shitty women, not all of us are like these women. Directly ask these women why they expect respect when they post crap like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:07 PM
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Is this what this is about? Not having kids? I see from your post history that this is a thing for you. I totally respect anyone’s decisions not to have kids. And I agree that if you can’t afford to have kids then you shouldn’t (coming from someone who grew up poor but fortunately my mother made it work and didn’t just keep having kids). But I stop at berating people who choose to have them or finding reasons why people shouldn’t have them. It seems a bit weird to focus so much on this. I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:09 PM
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True, and some people do that. But not everyone wants to uproot their lives especially if they have established roots there. Of course sometimes you have no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:53 PM
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Yes, homeowners can do this. But many renters rent apartments in buildings owned by companies, not private landlords. This risk is much more likely if a renter is renting a house or condo from the owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:53 PM
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This is a good solution in places where the cost of homes isn’t crazy expensive, but downsizing in Toronto and Vancouver? Unless they are downsizing to a one bedroom condo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:46 PM
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What part of Canada do you live it? You know how expensive it is to buy homes in Toronto and Vancouver right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:41 PM
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I depends on where you live. My understanding is that for many places in Europe, renting is common and the concept of home ownership isn’t the thing it is in the US and Canada. If you compare the cost of a single detached home in a rural community in North Carolina to Toronto where I live, the difference is at least 1 million dollars. The average cost of a single detached home in Toronto is over a million dollars CAD. If doesn’t get much cheaper in the suburbs either. Approx half of Torontonians…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:39 PM
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Hahaha to add to that, the claim that the only reason why 20 year old women don’t want to fuck old men is because society would shame them for it. Yeah sure, that’s the only reason stopping them :/.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:34 PM
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Wow…..did this guy also think babies came from storks??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:54 PM
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Women don’t really need to enjoy sex and if a guy tries to satisfy her sexually she will be turned off by his efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:50 PM
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I was going to ask the same thing, thanks for clarifying that they know he cheats. BTW when you ask ‘Why do you do this?’ it sounds like you are asking why we (the female posters here) date men who cheat. I never dated a man who I knew was a cheater so personally I can’t answer your question from my experience. But I would think that women who date men they know cheats are probably dumb, have low self esteem, or are players themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:22 PM
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Min wage pay. Work at Macdonald’s for min wage or fuck random men for min wage. Really think about your theory. Would you suck cock or take it up the ass for min wage? In what universe do you think women will opt to do this? A stripper in a high end club makes more money than a nurse but do you see a lot of nurses quitting their jobs to become strippers? And that’s just stripping. So to think that women will opt to fuck men for 5 bucks an hour???
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 02:47 PM
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This. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:22 PM
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I always laugh at this red pill claim that men love from a romantic pov while also advocating for men to treat women like plates, never get emotionally attached, never commit, and make sure she knows she can be replaced if she doesn’t submit but using manipulation tactics like dread. So romantic, am I right ladies? So to an answer your question, no, I don’t believe what TRP says about that at all. You are right that it generalizes all women. Also, I don’t think that all men want to treat women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:19 PM
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Yeah, I don’t think you’re going to be able to sell this to anyone other than maybe people who don’t like sex nor masturbation ( the later of which your definition of a degenerate act would apply). Taking an Advil for a headache is also not necessary, only provides a short term benefit but helps no one. Eating a bag of chips, same thing, playing one hour of a video game by yourself, same thing, watching of episode of your favourite show, same thing. All short term benefits that help no one. I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:48 PM
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It’s all good 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:32 PM
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I think anytime someone creates or contributes to something that benefits others, whether it’s a fringe group or not, is a big deal. That’s cool about your mom. I don’t think society should expect men to take a back seat. I personally find TRP to be mostly toxic but I find most men are not like TRP and are generally decent guys. Outside of some more extreme feminist groups, I honestly believe that the average female does not hold a grudge against men or want men to fade into the background. I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:25 PM
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That’s impressive, (certainly beats sitting on your ass playing WOW), but it doesn’t justify implying that women didn’t invent anything. I hope you understand my point. There are several women who invented great things. I’m sure you would be pissed if someone downplayed your accomplishments for any reason, or made a conscious choice to not even acknowledge them because it doesn’t fit their narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 08:03 PM
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👏👏👏👏 exactly!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:44 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_and_discoveries_by_women https://wbec-west.com/10-incredible-inventions-by-women-that-changed-the-world/ You have a right to have a your opinion on women but don’t imply that women didn’t invent anything. How many noble prizes have you won, what have you personally invented that made a significant contribution to the world? You know those windshield wipers on your car? Someone with a vagina invented that. Most of us (and I include myself) will not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:42 PM
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I would overlook a one off visit to an escort, but if there’s a pattern of choosing to pay someone to pretend to want to fuck him, I don’t see that person being able to have a mutually beneficial monogamous relationship with one girl. It’s not that it grosses me out it’s just that I can see that guy not being able to transition to non paid sexual relationships and romantic and emotional connections. I mean, if he’s used to paying for one sided sexual gratification, how giving is he going to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:00 PM
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Here’s the thing, if a man who towered over you physically lost his cool and punched walls it’s terrifying. If you were that 5,3 person standing there you would be scared too. It is far worse than if someone smaller than you did it. To me, this isn’t a gender thing, it’s a size and body strength thing. Someone much bigger and stronger than her lost his cool and scared the shit out of her. I remember once on the subway a short thin guy was yelling and kicking the air. Two guys grabbed him and sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:11 PM
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Exactly. It’s an idiom phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:03 PM
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I mean someone who will sleep with pretty much any guy. Someone who has a rep for sleeping around. I’m not saying that person is a bad person, but many guys may not want to wife her up. Just like many women won’t want to marry a guy who is a known player.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:00 PM
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Firstly, I think men like that are a small minority. Secondly, I think men like that often disqualify themselves to virgins anyway, so it’s a moot point. Virginity, in Western societies at least, is usually tied to a religion or cultural norm that discourages sexual promiscuity from males and females and does not consider such people as marriage partners. I do think that most men would prefer not to have a relationship with a woman who was the town bike, but most women would also prefer not to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:29 PM
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What do you mean by ‘survival value’?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 07:33 PM
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This also applies verbatim to those men who say all the women on OLD are damaged/ ugly/ used up/ just looking for a provider etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:36 PM
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Don’t act smart, avoid intellectual conversations, just be bubbly and fun. So several years ago I went on a date with guy and he tried to talk about an anti-war book he liked (which I actually read too and also liked). I said things like, ‘oh cool, awesome’, and refrained from having a real discussion about the book. He texted me after to say I’m a cute and nice person but he’s looking for more than a physical connection. I guess I didn’t come across as more than a physical connection with my fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:50 PM
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I assume if someone that I was interested in was dismissive, that they were not interested back. I might still have attraction but I would not do anything about it, I would just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 10:07 PM
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Things that you can’t change, yes, I understand that. That is different I agree. I will clarify that I am referring to men (and women) who can make an effort but choose not to. When I was in university I had a female classmate who lived with a group of young women. One of her roommates was a restaurant hostess who dropped out of university in her second semester. She was fixated on meeting and marrying a hot young doctor. She only wanted a doctor, and felt entitled to that because she saw hersel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:47 PM
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These kinds of men blame feminism, the economy, society, dating apps etc on the fact that they can’t get laid. Never is it THEIR problem, it’s everyone and everything else’s problem. These are the sexpats found wandering the brothel lined streets of third world countries or on romance tours in the Ukraine. To be fair, I know women like this too. It’s not just men. Basically, anyone with unrealistic expectations who feel entitled to something they make no effort to attain then blame outside facto…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:17 PM
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I read these articles a while ago. I’m sure if you Google it you will find something. Basically the premise is that women can also crave sexual variety and get bored with sleeping with the same guy. This is why it’s important to keep things spicy with dates, doing new activities together, being open to trying new sexual things together, having a connection as a couple, and explore sexual variety in our fantasies when we crave it, rather than cheating. For both men and women. A lot of couples sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:50 PM
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Countless studies on sexuality have also historically been male centric. There are studies that state that women are more likely to get bored with sexual monogamy faster than men. If this is the case, it implies that sexual novelty is a thing for some women, perhaps not as much as for men though but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:40 PM
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Ok, how many people here stop doing sexual things they actually enjoy doing because they don’t want to do it with someone to whom they are married? If a woman likes anal, she’s not going to stop doing anal. 99.9% of the time if a woman doesn’t do a sexual activity she did before it’s because she didn’t like it. People typically like to keep doing the sexual things that get them off. I don’t get the logic of some these posts lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:32 AM
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Advanced paternal age also leads to birth defects. There’s a reason why sperm banks have a cut off age for male donors and it’s usually 35. Both parents being young would have the least risk of age related birth defects.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:15 PM
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Yep, good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:32 PM
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Please make your assumptions even more vast. You haven’t reached around to the other side of the planet with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:28 PM
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Exactly. There’s this assumption in the red pill that women want chads, even when they are post wall. Perhaps some do but it is not applicable to all women past a certain age or not. The reality is that a ‘Chad’ is a man who won’t ever commit. At some point, many women want commitment. At some point, women will choose a guy who she likes, is attracted to, and is willing to commit over a guy who will always treat her like a plate. The red pill thinks if we women are not happy being used for sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:09 PM
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Did I say anywhere that traditional men cheated at a higher or similar rate? I don’t know what the rates are. What I am saying, which I thought was clear, is that being a traditional woman doesn’t guarantee you end up with a good man. Being a traditional man doesn’t guarantee you end up with a good woman, for that matter. I’m not defining rules here. I’m stating the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:05 PM
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I agree that reality shows find the most unstable people but Josh Duggar’s scandals came out years after the show was on the air, two of them came out after the producers booted him from the show when they found out about him molesting his sisters (first scandal) and the parents didn’t deal with it other than send him off to camp and guilt his sisters into forgiving him or some shit. And of course, not all traditional low n count women will end up with a sexual predator like him, but there is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:33 PM
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She’s a Christian woman who saved herself for marriage and committed herself to being an uneducated, unemployed SHAM in a Christian patriarchal community only to end up with a husband who molested his sisters, was caught with an Ashley Madison account, and is now on trail for child pornography.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:02 AM
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Yep! That’s another one. Women should basically be chaste and give give give to their guy and they will be rewarded with? Let’s ask Anna Duggar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:54 PM
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So by that logic, why should any woman seek to form a deep connection with a man through sex? If she sees sex as some deep connection and he just sees it as taking a piss, what message is that sending to her? Your deep and loving feelings during sex are nice, but for me, it’s just a way to get off. Oh but by all means, continue to feel those feelings while I feel nothing, because to me it’s just like taking a piss. I’m not saying that men should hear music and cry during sex but you’re actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:38 PM
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Perhaps she means opting out is easier as now a days it won’t lead to starvation like it would have for women back in the day when they had less rights and much less means of supporting themselves as well as the social stigma of being an unmarried woman. It can be a win in that way, if women really don’t want to be married and no longer feel that they have to be in order to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:04 PM
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You are painting non traditional women with the same brush and making a vast assumption that non traditional women want traditional men. In my experience, most non traditional women prefer non traditional men, as non traditional men are less likely to expect women to fulfill traditional gender roles. I literally don’t know any modern woman looking for a man who expects her to be a SHAM or do all the housekeeping and child rearing. Now of course there may be some modern women who want traditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:25 PM
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Well, some men want them to stick around for more sex. But if the goal is one night stands only I guess it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:50 PM
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That benefit from his wealth. Do you think Drake makes his entourage pay for their court side seats at Raptors’ games? If a wealthy man invites 10 models on his yacht are they expected to bring their own food and booze?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:49 PM
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I don’t know about that. Leading with resources is more likely to attract women who expect to benefit from those resources. If he just dangles it but doesn’t share it she’s not likely to try harder if she can easily find another guy who is willing to share. To me, this is like a woman who leads with the promise of easy sex but doesn’t put out, keeping the guy on a hook. Guys with options won’t stick around. Neither will women with options stick around for a man who doesn’t deliver on what he use…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:23 PM
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I think trp mistakes sexual dominance with relationship dominance when it was clear in 50 shades that the female was leading the relationship even if she was fully submissive sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:06 PM
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If you’re fat, lose weight. If you have yellow teeth, whiten them. If you are going bald, shave it all off or get a hair cut that suits balding men. If you have hair, get a hair cut that suits the shape of your face and head. Dress for your body type. Wear sunscreen, moisturize. Experiment with your facial hair. It’s amazing what a nice trimmed beard can do to a guy’s face if he has a weak chin for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:41 PM
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Looks matter, look fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:24 PM
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Do you live somewhere where women don’t survive past 40? I’m not sure what you’re getting at here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:26 PM
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Women typically live longer than men so when you say there are more women than men you have to factor in age. For example in Canada, up until middle age there are slightly more men than women: https://www.statista.com/statistics/444858/canada-resident-population-by-gender-and-age-group/ If you look at this from a dating/marriage/ fertility etc perspective in the age groups more likely to be single and dating there are more men than women. This may explain why men in those age groups struggle mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:43 PM
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Sure, will you fund my scientific study?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:52 AM
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Fair enough. It may support this aspect of the red pill. But this old as time theory is one theory among many theories from a group that spews a lot of anti female views which are not backed by science. Science doesn’t support all of the red pill. I don’t recall any studies that proved women are incapable of rational thought, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:48 PM
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This has been confirmed 100s of years before the red pill ‘discovered’ it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:47 PM
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All of those guys combined weigh less than one Tom Leykis. At least he knew he was a fat fuck though, but it was still funny when his blubbery 300lb+ self talked about women hitting the wall. But in all seriousness, he had a shock jock radio show and made a lot of money from that. He was able to offer free advice and entertainment because he didn’t need to sell it due to the revenue from his radio show.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:24 PM
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It’s like those ‘gurus’ who sell books and talks on how to get rich quick by doing ABC, but the way they got rich is not from doing ABC, it’s from selling books and talks on how to get rich quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:08 PM
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Perhaps it decreases the neediness for men who don’t want long term relationships. But there are lots of men out there who want something more than a casual sex partner and will feel that need even if casual sex is readily available to him. Why do high value men who have access to hot women for casual sex choose to get married and have kids? Some guys want more than the surface stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:55 PM
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I fluctuate between 6 -8. I’m happier now than I was in my early 20s when I was still learning who I was, less comfortable in my own skin, and less confident. I think overall both men and women are not as happy or at least have more periods of unhappiness and I think many things contribute to it: rising cost of living, social media, being more accessible due to technology, less job stability, less physically healthy due to more sedentary hobbies, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:19 PM
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If you are getting sex from young pretty hookers but want to make their fees cheaper why isn’t that the focus of your OP? Lobby your government or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:49 AM
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Yeah, still sounds like a tinsel post to me and your replies to others further cements that. If you want hot sex with a young pretty girl then go and pay for it, or become one of the those celebrity status men, instead of whining about how women should be ‘fair’ by having sex with all men. Women are human beings with choice. Sorry, not sorry. You are not owed sex, just like I’m not owed the hottest richest guy. Just like poor people aren’t owned a rich person’s wealth. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:14 AM
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Celebrity status men are like maybe 1% of the total male population. Do you really believe that 99% of men aren’t getting laid? This sounds exactly like a typical post from that group whose name rhymes with tinsel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:03 AM
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I think they vet the donors by age, health etc. Going by OPs scenario, if there are less desirable donors due to less high value men then I guess women would have to pick based on looks alone or something? I honestly don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:28 PM
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But those men are not bearing a child. Not sure of your question here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:37 PM
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Well yeah, being physically attractive will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:36 PM
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Yeah I have seen some unrealistic expectations from some women lol but not all of them. I don’t think women choose to get an education and good paying career to increase their SMV. I think most of us know that doesn’t give guys boners lol. I think some women just want to support themselves and make good money and for men who are in their socioeconomic circles, it’s seen as a plus (as long as she is attractive to him) for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:35 PM
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This has been discussed here before but typically, educated men with high level careers marry educated women with high level careers. No, they don’t need their money but people do tend to pair up within their own socioeconomic circles. This is why you don’t usually see a bank executive or cardiologist with a waitress as his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:31 PM
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I see your point about more women getting educated and earning high salaries but I don’t see those women settling for low low income men who spend their days playing video games. Women who have financial means and want children will just go ahead and have them (sperm bank etc) if they can’t find a suitable partner. If they just want causal sex, their options will be massive for that. I also acknowledge that there are some women out there with unrealistic expectations but honestly, most of the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:04 PM
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High educated women with good careers typically marry high educated men with good careers. So I don’t see such women having to settle for min wage video game enthusiasts. There are lots of high educated men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:22 PM
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As long as she doesn’t exmachina him lol. In all seriousness, I think men who are not interested or not able to emotionally connect with women, and see relationships as serving their own needs while not wanting to reciprocate, will opt for robots. But this is not all men. And it think men like that should have these bots because it will make them happier and more content.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:30 PM
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Re read what you just wrote lol. I’m going to stop feeding ya now. 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:45 PM
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It impacts the women who think they are dating someone who is on the same page as them. You know that. Stop trying to excuse or justify it. If you want high fives for your strategy post on the red pill site where you will be praised for it. I’m smelling a troll post at this point actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:12 PM
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Men and women are different but that’s not an excuse to allow a girl to get close to you emotionally and physically while you fuck other girls on the side and don’t tell her about it. How would you like it if you caught feelings for someone who you saw as girlfriend material (because that’s what she presented herself as) only to find out that while you were opening your heart to her she was fucking other guys? There’s nothing wrong with what you are doing when it’s with women who also are on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:21 PM
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I thought you said it never comes up. You said that several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:51 PM
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Oh. So you have told them then? Do they ask you or do you volunteer that information?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:47 PM
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Why don’t you tell the conservative girls that you are sleeping with other girls? What do you think would happen if you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:40 PM
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True. I do agree with loss of respect leading to loss of desire. That is a thing for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 10:56 PM
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I’m a woman too and I flat out don’t agree with your opinion. But you do you. I have zero interest in duty fucking a man just because I respect him. Fortunately, I desire and respect my husband (but I desired him first). Yes lack of respect can lead to loss of desire but I don’t think respect leads to desire in the way you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 10:29 PM
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Are you a woman? I have respect and awe for my former English Prof who was the best teacher I ever had. But I don’t want to fuck him. Respect and desire may be linked sometimes but certainly not all the time. There are lots of men who are highly respected, the Pope for example. But do you think lots of women get wet thinking about the Pope. Nope. If you don’t give her the tingles down there it won’t matter how much she respects you. Desire is a beast on its own. Being a respected man is not enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 10:08 PM
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Such a difference between desire and respect. I don’t even know where to start….
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:07 PM
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I live in Toronto. It’s not a thing here. But also, there are lots of young people who make good money so it’s not uncommon for a young man to have made it, career wise, before 30. So women who want wealthier men don’t necessarily have to date old ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 12:36 AM
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To be honest, outside of this sub I don’t know anyone, man, woman, old, young, who talks about this at all. It’s so rare to see non celebrity, non millionaire men with much younger women that it’s not even an issue that has any impact on older women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:22 PM
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I think a lot of it is due to the fact that men are much much much more likely to fuck a woman who is making herself available to him, even if she’s out of his league. This may lead to some women not being aware of their attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:10 PM
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Yeah good point players are not usually going for low n count women typically because they don’t want to wait weeks to have sex or deal either whatever barrier that woman may put up. My original point was when those men can no longer get easy sex, some do a 360 and look for the low n count women who avoided men like them her whole life. Slut shaming from these guys is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:59 PM
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Yes, some women are impressed by that, and some are not. Women who like casual sex probably really don’t mind that at all. Like tends to attract like. When I read posts of men talking about their successes yes some guys seem bitter but some ask how they do it and high five then. It probably depends on the guy but, it does seem that men are more likely to want to be that player getting all the easy sex. Jealousy means they want what you have. Women don’t look at a player and think “husband materi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:53 PM
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I read it was between the ages of 40-60. In North America.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:42 PM
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Yeah you’re right. That kind of manipulation doesn’t work on every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:39 PM
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That was covered in my first reply to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:37 PM
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No, they don’t. We don’t all want to fuck men who fuck lots of women. This is something that PUA types want to sell guys, that deep down all women are whores for the right guy with enough game, even the most religious women. If that was actually true, there would be a lot of very wealthy PUAs out there with best sellers and massive social media followings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:26 PM
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I have read here men on one thread talking about getting laid as quickly as possible and in another thread saying that all women who sleep around are damaged goods and more likely to cheat etc. This irony is all over the manosphere, shitting on easy women while trying to fuck them at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:23 PM
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There are always exceptions. And he’s one of them but this is not the norm. Also, 35 is not middle age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:17 PM
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Yeah I guess that makes sense when you consider that a player has to play her, ie do something that will attract her to him. Hence the term player. What I mean is that a woman knowing a man is a player won’t usually lead to her admiring him. It’s not like “oh look at that player, let me get some of that.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 08:16 PM
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Lots of women avoid players.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:22 PM
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Yes some women gravitate towards players. But not all women do and certainly, women with low n counts who are not into casual sex are much less likely to. I admit, a hot guy who women are clearly attracted will be seen as attractive. However, there’s a difference between having lots of women attracted to you and fucking all of those women. We want our guys to be seen as fuckable by other women but we don’t want him fucking other women. There’s nothing inherently wrong with wanting someone with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:20 PM
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Those women admire celebrity lifestyles. As do men who are part of someone’s entourage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:57 PM
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Women tell other women that if they want a happy relationship they’re better off avoiding players, not because there’s anything inherently wrong with them, it’s just likelier to aid your need for fidelity in your relationship. I agree that men shouldn’t be shamed for having these preferences. It’s when men actively try to game women into bed ASAP, put off having a serious relationship and just pump and dump for years, then complain that all women are whores and shame those very ‘whores’ that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:50 PM
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No where did I mention money and resources. If that’s all you think would be of value to her, that’s on you to sort out. You want her to be emotionally available to you, to brighten your day. How will you be emotionally available to her? How will you brighten her day? Basically, will you give her the same kind of investment that you want from her? If not, then yeah stick to casual stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 01:17 PM
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Buts that’s not how relationships are in real life, even if we would like that. What you want sounds more like a FWB who is just there for good times and sex. A casual relationship with no real emotional investment on either side. It will be easier to find that then finding a girl who will want to emotionally invest in your happiness and be submissive and meet all your needs while not actually sharing a life together. You’re asking someone to give you all of theses things and be happy and pleasa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 12:59 PM
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What will you be giving her? You just listed everything you want her to be so what’s in it for her to basically live a separate life but be available to meet your emotional and sexual needs whenever you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 12:51 PM
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I see a lot of what she needs to do for you. What will you be doing for her? Most women aren’t interested in being in a one sided relationship and that’s what your list sounds like, a girlfriend who will do all the work. If you want someone like that you need to provide reasons why it will be worthwhile for her to be with you. What do you have to offer that will be of value to her to be in a relationship with you meeting all of your needs in your list?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 11:40 AM
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Finding someone who is on board with that is the challenge. What sort of relationship would you like to have with this person?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:50 PM
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Yeah I agree it’s ok, if both people know the real deal and mutually benefit from it. Like sugaring. But some of these guys coming off like they mastered game in Thailand, it’s funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:18 PM
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Any unattractive men / or women who think the much younger and much poorer woman or man giving them affection is due to genuine romantic attraction are deluding themselves. The only thing that’s genuine is that person’s need to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:00 PM
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Good points and it sucks that you got flack for your personal choices around having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:50 PM
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Those are sad stats but I think the birth rate is down for several reasons, one being affordability. It’s not just women who choose to have less children. A lot of men are not interested in large families either. Also, more adults are opting out of parenthood altogether. Times have changed, people don’t need to fit a particular societal mold anymore, at least not in Western cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:18 PM
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Can’t say I have ever heard a female friend say she would rather date a mass murderer as long as he’s tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:33 PM
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I’m not going to deny that there may be some truth to that with some women for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:32 PM
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99.9% of body shaming I have heard about men came from…. Other men. Male friendships seem to be more frank and direct which is actually a good thing, but the flip side is that I have witnessed men telling their own friends to drop weight, dress better, or call the shortest guy in the social group ‘stumpy’.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:28 PM
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That sounds idealistic. The reality is staying home and taking care of a family and house can be stressful and having a job outside the home and being financially responsible for the family and home can also be stressful. Men can and do bring stress home, even if that home is spotless. Stay at home mothers can and do have stress around taking care of their family, even if their family is not neglected.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:43 PM
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Yeah that Mormon polygamous cult headed by Warren Jeffs is on the decline. Men were probably all for it until Jeffs decided that they could no longer sleep with their own wives and assigned a select group of men to be the community’s breeders for all the women (true story). Buck stopped there for those men I bet. In many Muslim countries it’s also on the decline, with not only women but men opting out. The stress of having to financially support multiple wives and kids likely far outweighs the ‘…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:31 PM
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I like both, to a limit. Henry Cavill is hot to me, but so is Bill Skarsgard who is thin with more of a feminine face. Two totally different looks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:52 PM
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I’m talking about couples I know personally and spend time with in person, not Facebook friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:25 PM
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Neither do I, because it seems that many men are interested in two incomes and not having to be the only one to provide for the whole family. I can understand not wanting to be in that situation especially if you are not a high achiever making bank, which most of us are not. I don’t think men should put themselves in that position, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:23 PM
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They don’t seem resentful to me. Like I said, the guys also work and make good money. Maybe if he was sitting on his ass all day doing nothing then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:19 PM
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I don’t think this is a manosphere sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:18 PM
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I think it’s fair to say no to anyone expecting someone to sacrifice too much of their life balance. Men or women. By virtue of someone expecting that, it proves that they are not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:13 PM
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That’s a good question, I don’t think men should work like dogs to appease women who want higher and higher salaried men. But I’m actually seeing a trend where couples have the woman making more. In Toronto, where I live there are a lot of young professionals who make alot of money and I personally know some couples where they both make good money but the woman makes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:47 AM
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Read my second reply to OP. I’m not saying that’s it’s never a reason. But I don’t think it’s the main or sole reason for all men. Some men just want these things for themselves regardless. Nice car, fat wallet, designer clothes etc. The Asexual guy I mentioned dresses like a Hugo Boss Ad. He has the best of everything but it’s not to attract women. He just likes fancy stuff and fancy living.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:29 AM
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What does appealing to women mean then? You’re right, you don’t need that much money if you are alone. But that doesn’t stop men (and women for that matter) wanting more money. Mark Zuckerberg already had a long term relationship before he become one of the richest men in the world. For all intents and purposes, we can assume it’s a healthy one because they are still together and now married with kids, he could have dumped her for another women or a string of models at any point when he became r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:22 AM
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So, the only reason why men bother working and striving to have a high income career is to get laid? I don’t believe men in general are that pathetic, and I think most men want those things for reasons that have little to do with women. Like wanting these things for themselves, to have a comfortable life and the ability to do things they like, to feel proud of accomplishments. To fulfill passions and dreams they had. To feel good about themselves. Security, independence, etc. Not everything a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:36 AM

You made quite the leap from not into casual sex to delaying sex for months. There’s an in between you completely missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:14 PM

I’ve seen lots of guys do that too. Guys crying over a girl who treats him like crap and going back for more because she’s hot. It’s not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:11 PM

What kind of women are you observing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:00 PM

Right. Having sex with a guy who dumps us after is the best guy for us ladies. A guy who cares about us? What a loser! :/. This nonsense. For the millionth time and louder for the guys in the back: many women value and are sexually attracted to guys who want to care for and have a relationship with them. Stop trying to ‘sell’ this idea that being a player is what women want to settle for or actually prefer. Not all women want players. Not all women are into casual sex. If that’s what you want, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:24 PM
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Hahaha yes!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:25 PM
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Wow, comparing dating to how we acted as teenagers and suggesting we go back to that. Why grow up when we can be 16 forever :/. Has an incel forum shut down somewhere? These posts today…..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:50 PM
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Right. Men good women bad. This theme has been played out ad nauseam here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:34 PM
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You said women have ZERO EMPATHY. Your comments and opinions are very generalized and based on your perspective. I’m not saying there aren’t women out there like you describe, there certainly are, but they are not majority. If you feel that they are, perhaps you need to consider what kind of women you interact with. And I would say the same thing to women who say men are shit. What of men are they interacting with to have this opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:56 PM
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Ok, so why the super long post to make the point that being a jerk gets you laid? If that works for you and you no longer except to be cared for by women then you do you. But to paint all women with the same brush is naive. That’s like me saying all men are cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:06 PM
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Ok so if you don’t want to bring love to the table what are you going on about here with men being more romantic and caring etc? What’s your point? If you don’t think bringing love is wise than why care if women don’t bring it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 12:41 PM
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Do you have kids? Are you a parent in an unhappy marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 11:33 AM
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So you would stay married to a women that you no longer cared for, or even liked you? Or visa versa? Can’t imagine sharing space with someone who I didn’t want to be with or who didn’t want to be with me. If that doesn’t do you in mentally, nothing will. Some people make mistakes and marry the wrong person then make bigger mistakes and have kids with them. Staying in an unhappy marriage will affect the children. It’s way too hard to fake being ok in your own home for as long as your kids are liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 11:09 PM
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That’s good to know. I don’t have any experience dating bisexual people and am assuming so having insight like this is helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:00 PM
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I am not turned off by bisexual men but I would assume that he would want to have the option of sleeping with men (rather than repress a significant part of his sexuality)and for women who want monogamy, not sure how that would work. But for poly relationships it’s probably ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:44 PM
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If he was uncomfortable with that it’s totally understandable. I think many guys would be but some maybe even get turned on by it. Feeling jealous? If I was doing something in the video that I won’t do for him, or seemed to be into the sex a lot more than sex with him, that feeling would make sense. Feeling jilted? Weird, unless I lied and told him that I never sex before or lied and said I never recorded myself having sex. Also it’s not like it’s a video of something I did while we were togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 11:26 AM
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I don’t think he’s ugly but don’t find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:29 PM
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To me “ugly hot” is equivalent to butterface. A guy with a nice body but unattractive face. From my experience women are into faces more than men. Like, overlooking a few extra pounds or shortness if he has an attractive face. I would totally date Henry Cavil if he was short or had a few extra pounds. I would not date Vin Diesel if the same. Of course, in real life I have zero chance with either of them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:19 PM
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Yes the majority are male. Also, the majority of males don’t invest in the market and are not part of the wealthy elite. So, again, in your scenario, the average male who is neither a creator nor a wealth builder, will be shit out of luck and having to hustle to make ends meet, like the majority of females. Like the majority of everyone who is not already wealthy and resourceful if a depression occurs. There was a documentary on female sex tourists which was interesting because of the assumption…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:23 PM
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Many women also create core wealth. This isn’t the Victorian times. If a Great Depression returned because of this pandemic you can bet that many men will not be able to feed themselves or their families and won’t be out there creating anything. They will be just as jobless as women. Only the elite will be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:27 AM
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No, his point is that the more toxic a man is the more women want him. So she wouldn’t be leaving a toxic abuser, hence, no need for shelters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:13 AM
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No, because back then women didn’t have rights nor access to resources that existed unless she tethered herself to a man. In your scenario, it’s not about not having rights nor access to resources, it’s about lack for resources for everyone, including men. So having sex for resources could include men having to do that too, with whoever has resources, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:23 AM
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Then there wouldn’t be women divorcing men nor shelters for abused women, if women loved toxic men. Like tends to attract like. Toxic people tend to gravitate towards each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:37 AM
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I think this benefits women who want to avoid players and men who don’t like women and it 100% benefits female players who will use their own strategies against them. The self improvement stuff (get fit, have a decent job, have a hobby, dress and groom better) will benefit women when there are more decent guys to date, but this self improvement advice was around long before TRP so I don’t think they can call that advice their own, but it is good advice ( for men and women actually).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:30 PM
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B. I’m into a lot of the stuff he is into so we would have a lot in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:44 PM
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If we use your logic, her lying to him about being her safe option is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:49 PM
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Sounds like the flip version of those red pill men who advise members to hide their assets from their spouses while discouraging her from her own financial independence. Both are kind of shitty if you ask me. Shared financial assets, shared expenses as well as each having their own nest eggs/ investments/ assets etc is ideal in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:12 PM
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I think many couples are just choosing to have less kids (especially middle and upper middle class people), and more women and men are opting out of parenthood altogether. I don’t think it’s a bad thing. I don’t think we’re going to be extinct anytime soon :).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:14 PM
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Yes it depends on context and yea some women want this and make that decision. But most women prefer a committed relationship and are not be ok with sleeping with a guy who is sleeping with others no matter how ‘alpha’ he is. Just like not all men want to fuck around with lots of women and also want just one in a committed relationship. There are women out there who are fine with being plates and FWB but those women are most also plating those guys and are seeing other men. For men and women who…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:54 PM
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You’re basically saying that women value men who use them for sex while continuing to see other women over men who don’t do that? Some women yes, most women, no. This notion that the red pill pushes about women preferring men who just treat them like plates and won’t commit to them is based on… trying to justify using women and make it seem like that’s what she wants. If this was the case, we would not see post after post on red pill sites of men asking how to get women to stop flaking, the conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 12:27 PM
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Young women don’t seem to care for having a hard time in life and needing to depend on a man to survive. Go figure….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:45 AM
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But need can be fleeting too if you think about it. A woman who is only with you because she needs you, will be gone when she no longer needs you, or when you no longer provide her with what she needs. Think about foreign brides who ghost as soon as they get their green cards. Or women who use men for money then drop them when they find another man who has more money. Keeping you around only because they need you is not that different from them basically using you. The pressure is then on you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:37 AM
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I mean how mad could I get when I know that I too am not going to risk my safety for some guy I’m casually sexing with zero emotional investment. Like if a gang of thugs came up to us and told me to hit the road while they circled him, I’m probably going to hit that road. I would call the cops when out of earshot of course .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:11 PM
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I think so too, but not for the reasons OP stated. I don’t think it will increase sex availability for men who are not attracting women but I can see it increasing sexual frequency and quality for women and the men they choose to sleep with. I guess my point is that it won’t necessarily increase options for men. Female viagara is prescribed for women who have been diagnosed with hypoactive sexual desire disorder which is basically no sexual desire at all to the point where it is causing problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:18 PM
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Yes women do that but not to sleep with guys they are not attracted to. OP is applying male logic to female sexual behaviour by suggesting that an increase in female libido will lead to a male sexual strategy approach to dating. Men are much more likely to sleep with a woman they are not attracted to, just to get laid. Women are much less likely to do this and much more likely to masturbate when horny and no options, over sleeping with a man she is not attracted to. Women having a higher libido …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 12:27 PM
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I don’t understand. Why would women take a pill to fuck men they don’t want to fuck and are perfectly ok with that? This would be a hard sell to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:35 AM
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Thanks! It works for us :).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 03:35 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:51 PM
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I prefer blue pill or no pill. My marriage is egalitarian. We defer to each other’s decisions based on our individual knowledge of particular areas. For example, I’m more knowledgeable about how government services work so when his widowed grandfather got dementia and needed government funded supports I navigated that. When we needed to replace our car I let him make all the decisions about that as I know less about cars. I’m not into men who want me to let them lead and make all the decisions j…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:30 PM
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Muslim counties have no relationship problems? They are perfectly happy? If Sharia law is that good how to you explain the mass exodus of Afghanis fleeing Sharia law? It’s not just women who are trying to flee either. The Amish are a private community and we really don’t know what goes on behind closed doors until some controversy is exposed, like the sexual abuse cases that came out earlier in this decade. The growth of Mormonism has actually declined, with young members leaving the church. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:03 PM
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No worries. I get what you’re saying and that is an option but what sticks out to me is that he has known her for years already and isn’t interested in a relationship with her. Maybe he really just wants to sort himself out which could be the case but if so, how long should she put dating on hold to see where things go with him? Women can waste their best years passing up on guys who are into them by focusing on someone who is not. If she wants to wait for him to come around there should be at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 02:49 AM
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But it’s him that doesn’t want a relationship with her. She’s more likely to be the one at the bottom of HIS list. She’s more likely to be HIS back up plan if he can’t find his preferred type of woman. She wants commitment but he’s the one who doesn’t, so what is she supposed to do in that situation, wait around for him and not date other guys in case he changes his mind? I think my advice of not wasting her time and emotions on a guy who doesn’t want a relationship with her is sound advice. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 02:26 AM
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What’s cringy about it lol? I’m open to feedback :).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 02:07 AM
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I think this is true 99.9 % of the time. Don’t look for something that isn’t there. If he wanted to move forward with you, he would. He’s not, and said he doesn’t want to and (in your words) is eager to be platonic. None of this is a sign that he’s that into you. If you can accept that and have a friendship with him, great. However, if there’s a part of you, hidden in the back somewhere, that’s hoping he will fall for you and want to be something more, consider how this friendship is going to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:50 AM
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If women in their 20s are more attracted to men in their 30s then why don’t we see more women in their 20s dating men in their 30s? TRP also says women want men who aren’t emotionally available and use dread and other manipulation. They also say women are shamed by society for dating older men and that’s why they don’t date older men. Which I think is funny, they talk about how women have no shame and do whatever they want but then say ‘shame’ is why they don’t fuck older men. It’s a grain of sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:31 AM
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Again, LINKS to the DATA to back this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:45 PM
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I hang my head in shame then, please educate me on this with some LINKS to the sociological research that states that children with emotionally distant harsh fathers lead good healthy lives. If there is a valid point in this, I am open to considering it but I’m not going to do so based on your opinion that you so far have not backed up in any way other than referencing the views of one member who who does not represent all women, as has been pointed out to you. And that’s nothing against her, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:29 PM
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Like I said, the odds aren’t great for single parent kids but it’s not impossible. Also, if the dad is abusive or has an addiction that has a negative impact on the children. Simply having both parents isn’t enough to ensure a good upbringing for the child if one of the parents is shit. In my opinion, an emotionally distant, harsh father is a shit parent. If you don’t believe that, just Google ‘emotionally distant fathers’ and see what comes up. I would bet that there are forums with people talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:18 PM
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One of the girls on my childhood street who grew up with a single mother got a sports scholarship to a university in the States. She’s a lawyer now living with her husband and daughters in Boston. Another one, a guy, is a plumber who has his own business and volunteers at his son’s hockey camp. Oh, and he’s not a heterosexual. I don’t know if their lives are perfect but they don’t seem be be shitty lives. I’m not saying that the odds are good for kids in single parent homes but there are many ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:48 PM
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A lot of people who are not heterosexual contribute to the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:31 PM
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That’s not been my experience with my friends who had distant and cold fathers. All three have zero relationships with their fathers and one is actually in therapy because of her childhood with him. When one of my friend’s mother died of cancer he stopped visiting his childhood home and completely cut contact with his father. His father lives alone now and has grandchildren he will probably never know. All three are people I have known for a long time and all three struggled mentally with their …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:27 PM
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Why just a healthy heterosexual relationship? What if the child is not heterosexual? And what about the fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:03 PM
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Depends on the age: Early 20s: the high n count guy with no relationship experience is not as big of a red flag due to many young guys just wanting causal fun at that age. It’s not something that’s admirable but it’s not suspicious. The guy with no experience, also not suspicious at that age given that they are still young and maybe still working on confidence, how to talk to girls etc. I mean we hear those stories a lot here of male members who say they were shy and awkward as young men and did…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:30 PM
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That’s horrible! A male friend of mine was sitting on a park bench next to a playground, texting on his phone when a police officer showed up asking what he was doing there. One of the parents in the playground called the cops because a ‘strange man’ was hanging around the playground :/.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:30 PM
9

So, republicans will adopt all the unwanted babies, or….??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:48 PM
3

Wow, you don’t think that’s setting the bar low? “All I have to be is hot, he doesn’t care if I’m a bitch. He doesn’t care if I have no money.” I know there are guys out there who only value her looks despite her character or lack thereof. Seems to me those are the guys who end up getting burned by women and then complain about it online. If all you want is a hot chick regardless of her personality or how she treats you, then that’s what you will attract. May as well have a ‘Use Me’ sign written…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:29 PM
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Sounds like you are saying that all a woman has to be is attractive. The rest is just ‘bonus’. What if there are no bonuses? What if she’s a total bitch who is also broke?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:48 AM
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One of my ex’s had an experience with another guy. I didn’t bother me but if he was having that experience while I was with him it would have, not because it was another guy but because it was another person. While some women would be put off a by a guy’s past same sex experience, I don’t think all women would be. I think it’s a stretch to assume that all women are the same in that regard and I get the impression that you assume this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:20 AM
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Probably not many just like not many women support their partners having a sexual experience with another woman. Curious, would you be ok with your gf or wife having sex with another woman? I mean having sex with the woman but not including you, so, not a threesome, you are not part of the experience at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:02 AM
7

Women watching male gay porn is thing. Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 11:35 PM
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Men are scared of being thought of as gay by their male friends first and foremost. That is why ‘no homo’ is said among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:31 PM
6

Doesn’t wear underwear to attract men that won’t see them anyway because they are under my clothes = unattractive feminist. That’s enough Reddit for me today lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:50 PM
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No. I’m indifferent to what men think of underwear that they can’t see anyway. You are making quite the leap here. When you put underwear on in the morning do you base your decision on how your underwear will attract women? Do you not wear pants, or do you assume that at any given moment you will be showing your underwear to a woman in order to attract her??? I don’t assume those things when I get dressed for the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:20 PM
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No, I care if I see them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:09 PM
2

Maybe not to leave a panty line? I guess it depends on the type of skimpy underwear lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:08 PM
2

l do the same! Buy the one type and brand of underwear the fits the best :).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:24 PM
4

Did you ever wear something and you don’t like colour and you change into something else you prefer? Most women won’t care if you’re wearing a colour you don’t like. It’s like that. But also, some pants make my underwear wedge so actually wearing a thong stops that. Sometimes it about comfort as well. The first time I wore thong it felt different but you get used to it and not all thongs are created equal. Some are more comfortable than others, just like bras.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:00 PM
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There’s also flash subreddits. What does this have to do with your argument about why women wear thong? Do all women take ass pics in thong and post them online every time they decide to wear them? Are there no men’s underwear that fit better under certain pants?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:50 AM
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I occasionally wear thongs when wearing something where I don’t want my panty line to be visible. I don’t care if men don’t care about panty lines in whatever it is I’m wearing, I care. I don’t get up in the morning, look at my undergarments and ask myself ‘ what feminine sexy panties should I wear today to attract men, who won’t see them anyway as it’s under my clothes?’ Also, when you wear thong you don’t feel it up your butt like you would with bunched up underwear. It’s not the same at all. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:25 AM
2

Henry Cavill in his late 20s/ early 30s. He still looks good but I’m referring to when he was less muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:02 PM

The problem: women don’t want to have sex with men they are not attracted to. The Solution: pressure women to have sex with men they are not attracted to. Who cares what women actually want right? Sheesh:/.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:02 PM
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Sexual submission is different though. I knew a real ball buster woman who liked to be totally dominated in bed. I can see how that can be a turn on. But submissive in your life (who you are, how you act, what you do etc) is different and can be oppressive if it’s not something you want. Most women don’t want to be submissive in that way. Even in sub/dom relationships where the man (or woman) dominates things outside of the bedroom, it’s a mutually agreed upon arrangement and the sub actually se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:28 PM
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I literally googled the definition and that’s what came up from the Oxford dictionary. There’s nothing wrong with it but I really do believe that some men are using the term ‘submissive’ incorrectly. For example, if you tell a girl you are looking for someone who is laid back, easy going who can go with the flow, you will get a much different response than if you say you are looking for a girl who is submissive. Submissive does mean submit to the will of someone else. There is an oppressive conn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:04 PM
1

‘the dependence of two or more people or things on each other.’
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:28 PM
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Submissive - ‘ready to conform to the authority or will of others; meekly obedient or passive.’ It’s being used incorrectly by some guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 12:08 PM
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Yeah this is a good description. As a female when I have met other females who made it a point to say they are strong independent women they tended to be abrasive. Meanwhile actual strong women tended not to make a point of saying so. It’s like guys who make a point of showing that their are ‘manly’ by bragging about stuff and putting other men down in front of others to make themselves look better. Like that guy who picks on his one smaller male friend in front of girls. It’s transparent to mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:08 AM
9

The only time women even have to justify ‘just sex’ is when a guy expects her to. For a guy who will judge her for having more sexual partners and more casual sex, what answer could she give that would pacify him? If she says she was deeply in love with those men is he going to be less put off? Does it really matter what she says to the guy who can’t handle that fact that she has had more sexual partners? For guys who don’t want to be with a woman who has had more partners than him, find a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:08 PM
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It all depends on what he expects to get. If he wants a woman out of his league then his prospects are not that good. If he is realistic about the kind of women he can attract and he’s ok with that, then I think his prospects would be quite good. Most people are average and many of them are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 12:04 PM
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No dick is worth choosing to be a single mom on welfare, even if what’s attached to that dick is a hot super alpha Chad. These questions are fun though. What would guys rather have: 1) no strings casual sex with a hot 10/10 with no gag reflex who cooks and cleans and fucks on demand but has Herpes or… 2) An average looking girl who doesn’t have Herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 04:53 PM
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I think it’s risky for any woman to have a marriage where she is dependent on him regardless of whether she had a hoe phase or was a Catholic virgin, especially if the guy is of the mindset that she should get nothing from him if she leaves. That’s a trap that no sane person would agree to and ironically is one of the reasons why there are prenups. It’s astounding how many red pillers don’t understand how prenups actually work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:45 PM
2

Sounds like an inability to bond which can lead to boredom with the same person if there was no deep connection from your end to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:32 PM
2

Female here. First dates are really just like meet and greets to see if there’s interest beyond the texts and phone calls. A coffee meet up or walk and chat takes the pressure off of both people to commit to a lot of time or money in case there’s no connection. If there’s mutual interest after the first date and he asks her out to dinner the norm is that he would pay but the nice thing to do is offer to split the bill or if there’s continued interest, ask him out and pay for the next date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:31 AM
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Married female: 1) 5-10 times a year I will include him in group activities ie summer bbqs, dinners, parties etc. 2) for things like group gatherings, yes. I also include their partners for such activities. 3) for couple group activities? No. For when it’s just me and my girlfriends going for coffee/drinks/ catching up, yes I do mind and I don’t take my partner to those kinds of things nor do I expect to go with him to meet up with his buddies. 4) depends on what we are doing. For girlfriend stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:47 PM
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Interesting study. I see this as a self preservation strategy (that’s not limited to men or romantic relationships), where people who feel excluded from a group devalue that group as a way to feel better about being excluded. Not saying this excuses any behaviours they have towards that group of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 12:58 PM
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See? Doesn’t feel good does it? Having to justify your hobby as masculine to someone whose opinion should not matter. So please, don’t be like that to other men and just leave people be. Any activity, regardless of whether it’s masculine or not, is better than just existing like a lump on the planet with no interests at all. Hot air ballooning sounds awesome and does take skill. So does knitting. It’s all good. Edit: that’s not a slight against dreamsofwishes. This is actually a good illustratio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:25 AM
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What’s natural for them? I can count on one hand the number of straight men who skydive or play extreme sports. I wonder who many men are made to feel less like men (by other men) because they don’t want do to things that are ‘natural’. You really don’t see how your opinions are actually hurtful towards men and contributes to the concept of toxic masculinity do you? People of course would be unhappy to be pressured into something they don’t want to do, and that includes men being pressured into …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:39 PM
2

Those outliers most likely don’t want to relive their sexual trauma, despite their fantasies (which may be a way to control an experience that they had no control over). It’s sad that I even have to post this but I can totally see some of red pill guys reading this and actually thinking it’s ok to be sexually aggressive with a woman they know was abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:06 PM
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A prostitute that does bare back. How will you ensure she doesn’t have an STD that she gives your guy who then gives it to you? Can you pay for her STD test before the unprotected sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:13 AM
0

Right I forgot about that subreddit. But in real life with the average woman this doesn’t seem to be a focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:07 AM
2

Wow really?? Like random women or men or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:26 AM
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Never met one woman who devotes her life to crusading against age gap relationships. And I have met some hard core feminists and even they don’t do that. Who are these crusaders? The women I know don’t even talk about this on a regular basis, if at all. Is there a subreddit for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 12:29 AM
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