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Not true at all. We don’t approach women in that situation intending to sleep with them. Your husband may only want sex and that’s why he thinks all men do. We want sex. Just not from every woman we encounter like he thinks. Right now, I want food. I would turn down sex if offered because I need food.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:00 PM
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I wish that worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:54 AM
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Not all of women’s signals are obvious. That’s a huge problem in dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:00 AM
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It’s also a problem because men are hearing both “approach more” and “don’t approach” from women (Yes we know not from the same women). Without any context. Since men can’t read minds, they don’t know which woman they’re going to get unless they approach. By then it’s too late if we get the “don’t approach me” woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:00 PM
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Our modern society still hasn't figured out the rules for intersexual dynamics after we got rid of the traditional infrastructure. This. This. This. 👆👆👆👆👆 This essentially sums up the whole issue. Outliers excluded of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:57 PM
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Agreed. Making sex transactional kills the intimacy of it. There are other ways to address the issue of your partner not pulling their share. It’s ok for that to lead to not wanting sex but it should be for that reason and not because you want to punish your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:25 AM
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I think he’s trolling. His post is too combative. He wants the expected replies. Not sure why.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:07 PM
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🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:55 PM
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“I don’t know how to attract women either” Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:54 PM
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I’m pretty sure OP is just trying to stir the pot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:50 PM
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I’m convinced “being lucky” is the only way anyone meets nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:46 AM
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I don’t even know where to start on IG looking for dates. Maybe because of my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:42 AM
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Because straight women don’t know how to attract women. They don’t approach women so that can’t give good advice to men because they don’t have the experience. It’s why women in general give bad attraction/approach advice. They have great relationship advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:37 AM
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So if they say go away, you won’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:34 AM
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What attracted you to them? What did they like about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:30 AM
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As an avoidant, could you push someone away when they would have been a good partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:40 AM
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That last one is a good life lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:38 AM
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What do you mean by generating attraction? How did you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:37 AM
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Why is there so much dating advice that men need to be more disagreeable instead of people pleasing. That many men make this mistake, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:55 AM
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It's not nearly as complicated as the guys here make it sound. No. It’s much more complicated, complex, and difficult than anything else in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:26 AM
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Honestly, this reads like frustration turned into a theory about why everyone else is the problem. This should be the motto for this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:01 AM
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And why don't you know what it takes for a man to stand out in a good way. Why is this something you need to ask strangers for help on? Not all of us are as knowledgeable as you are. We ask strangers on the Internet in advice forums, trying to find help anywhere we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:38 AM
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Jesus Christ, that’s a lot to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:18 AM
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I’m rooting for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:53 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:11 PM
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LOL. Burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:11 PM
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Also, I love your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:10 PM
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I need to adopt that mentality. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:09 PM
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I hope you survived that childhood. That sounds awful on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:08 PM
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Same reason you don’t hear about all the not-toxic guys having girlfriends — nobody is complaining about them. The not-toxic guys without girlfriends are complaining. That’s how they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:22 AM
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Yep. I’ve been alone most of my adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:04 AM
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And many normal guys don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:03 AM
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Reminds me of the obviously humorous video on YouTube where a woman lets a guy out of her home and then says “fucked, had a good time, called an Uber, and sent him on his way. Let’s see how men like being treated the way they treated women. “ The next scene is the guy running down the stairs calling his bud saying he had an amazing time and best that he didn’t have to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:46 PM
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Not all men do, especially nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:44 PM
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The ones to whom you said you want to fuck them, did that start a relationship or just a hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:43 PM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:43 PM
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How are men “designed to approach”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:35 AM
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I disagree. Men do it because they have to because they know women won’t do it. If I had a choice, I’d rather women approached so I know which ones want me. I can’t pick up the super subtle clues women give out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:34 AM
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Unless she is actually approaching him, and talking to him first, she is not approaching. She is signaling her availability in the hopes he approaches, so she doesn't have to approach, she doesn't have to risk her ego, and she doesn't have to risk being rejected. Some women's idea of "approaching" is to stare at a man and wink at him. That's not approaching, and yet those women are 100% convinced they "approached" the man. You hit the nail on the head. Most women don't have a clue what approachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:22 AM
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Did you regret the approach? Or the guy was a dud?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:19 AM
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don’t women outnumber men overall in college? I’m sure there’s specific schools that are outliers (tech schools).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:06 AM
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It’s a filter. You can see it flickering on the (our) left side.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/04/26 07:08 AM
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Easier said than done. If only I knew how.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:23 AM
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and they still have a deeply internalized childhood fear of rejection or failure and a deep and abiding concern with what others think, which is their biggest enemy. The key for them is ditching that in a healthy way So how does one do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:50 AM
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It’s not that m less liable than a poor druggist felon. It’s that I can’t attract a woman so that my likability comes out. My personality never gets a chance because I can’t get past that initial hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:47 AM
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What do you do for success?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:34 PM
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What is “containment” in this context? I’m not familiar with the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:27 PM
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Unfortunately I’m reaching this point. And my life is full of regrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:09 AM
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Then we had very different childhoods. Not everyone had social situations where they learned body language. Expecting everyone to know what you know is just…wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:43 AM
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so you want win while taking no risks? Yes. Absolutely. Im too old for that shit. so you've just got free advertising that you're single and looking to big audience of women, some of which have minds of their own and find you attractive regardless of what happened in the video? 😆😂🤣 thanks for the laugh. I’m not looking for free advertising on IG or TT. i'd say that's a win. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:38 AM
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And risk running into the first group? Ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:34 AM
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“Just works”. 😆😂🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:30 AM
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Because they don’t want to be approached and rather stay at home than get a man’s attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:04 AM
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Yes. Unfortunately for us men, you are an example of the extreme minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:03 AM
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In a just world, women would approach men. But we know that won’t happen, so yes, they need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:02 AM
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Yes and no. We don’t need a refresher; we need the whole damn lesson because we were never taught in the first place. It annoys me to no end that men are somehow expected to know body language and social cues without having learned them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:01 AM
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Men refuse to approach because too many things have gone wrong. And they’ve heard many times recently from women to not approach them at places. “Don’t approach me at the gym”. “Don’t approach me at the grocery store”. “Don’t approach me at work”. Guys get major conflicting messages and then don’t know what to do. All while avoiding the social influencers who will record everything and post to social media, which men don’t want at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:59 AM
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Dating really is all luck and timing. This is so true. It’s taken me until my 50s to learn this is the real ugly truth. It sucks that no one ever truly revealed this until now. It’s amazing to me how some people can have so much good luck and others have too much bad luck (I’m the latter).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:54 AM
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Because men throwing parties want women there. Women throwing parties want other women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:51 AM
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Because being a good man doesn’t do squat. Women want something beyond that. I don’t know precisely what since I haven’t figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:11 AM
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You found an almost unicorn; congrats. It’s difficult to do especially nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:07 AM
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Same here. Loneliness sucks but I’m good at it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:10 AM
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If I had a nickel for every time I’d thought that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:09 AM
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Don’t get an appetizer. Man, that was an easy decision. Don’t get drinks or don’t get more than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:50 PM
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If it was easy for him, he was either very hot and had women throwing themselves at him (a feat most men will never experience in their life) or was born with innate social skills. I’m thinking the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:51 PM
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I agree with everything you said. It is an unfortunate truth for men like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:49 PM
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They’re correlated. Shyness is a permanent personality trait. Social anxiety is just a mental condition that can be overcome but is much more difficult for a shy man to do so. Source: I’m both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:45 PM
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It is definitely main skill needed for any man wanting to date women. It goes right along with the saying “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”. But shy men still have social anxiety about approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:43 PM
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Agreed. Most women wait for the man to approach them. Shy men regardless of attractiveness will rarely approach women. So nothing happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:39 PM
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If I got a nickel every time, I'd be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:28 AM
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My entire young adult years I was told by unavailable women that I would make a great boyfriend and husband. I was NEVER told this by available women. I believed it way too much. Many years later, I am still single, never married. I can count on one hand the number of women who were attracted to me. WTF?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:27 AM
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boomhaur What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:16 AM
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Agreed. It seems they do not want to admit what works on them. This is where "ask the fisherman, not the fish" came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:16 AM
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It is that simple. Nothing in the dating and relationships world is simple. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:05 AM
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Bro, we outgrew that shit as preteens. Maybe you did. Not all of us were that lucky to learn that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:57 PM
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I'm just glad we have women advocating as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:38 AM
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Not on Reddit but I have seen them on IG. I follow them there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:35 AM
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And maybe if society gave even 10% of a fuck about men as it did about women, we'd be able to fix the suicide gap. True. But I don’t see that changing any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:33 AM
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I recall the experiment was 18 months. And that she ended it early. I think it was planned for 24 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:31 AM
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Didn’t her self-cide happen many months after she stopped her experiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:12 AM
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Some of us are making mediocre incomes and not dating. Sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:40 PM
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0%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:39 PM
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i mean you really just need to find someone who likes you and you like back So that’s it? There’s nothing more to dating and attracting women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:49 AM
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All you have to do is clear the looks threshold, appear genuine and have a basic level of social skills. Oh is that all? Then why are there so many single people? Because it’s DIFFICULT!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:47 AM
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Where do you find that the competition is actually low? Under 15% body fat is not attained by most adult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:45 AM
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I wondered what all that “frame” stuff meant. It seemed vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:41 AM
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ask women out, date and have sex. So it’s that simple? Then why are there so many lonely people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:41 AM
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Because we can’t see the endgame thru the barriers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:39 AM
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Agreed. I don’t get past step 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:36 AM
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How/Where did you learn about people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:35 AM
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I read that list and thought “well I’m cooked”. FML
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:23 AM
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“Hunger Games”. That is the most apt description for dating especially OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:21 AM
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Fuck. In-shape is a long way off for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:21 AM
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Most women don’t want to admit that. They blow smoke and talk about good guys and reliable guys and emotionally available men. Then go with the guy who excites them but is not reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:20 AM
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Unfortunately, you are the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:19 AM
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Women don’t want to admit what worked on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:04 AM
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What are the specific advice/tips that help you succeed in dating women? The attraction and approaching is the most difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:02 AM
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He’s an SNL actor. He’s not even close to a hobo nor an Everyman. People need to stop using him as an example to strive for. Most of us won’t get to that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:19 AM
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So what do you attribute to your success with women? It sounds like it’s your confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:10 AM
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Yes. You need the experience and built-in exposure therapy that high school is. I didn’t date in high school and regret it every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:07 PM
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Men shouldn’t chase women. That’s old school thinking. Instead, they need to make themselves attractive to women so that when they meet women in the wild, an attraction can build. Or so I’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:02 AM
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Which means I’m not attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:44 AM
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It’s so weird that women can’t ever do “nothing”. It relieves stress!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:39 AM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:43 AM
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The diamond industry wants you to overspend to fund them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:55 AM
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Or how about the weekends? You want to be casual and not do anything stressful but the Honey Do List comes out or places she wants to go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 09:23 AM
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👆
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:43 AM
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Exactly. I too have had trouble learning social norms since they were never taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:25 PM
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“Very few Women hit on men” FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:56 AM
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If women wanted to make it easy to distinguish romantic intentions versus day to day niceness, they should be really blunt like asking for a date. Right? But for some reason, they won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:55 AM
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Do you mean too oblivious to notice?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:54 AM
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Well that sucks for me. Because I’ve never been approached by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:52 AM
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What about those who are not in a relationship and looking to start? Then “5 years in” doesn’t apply and they are in the “earliest stages” of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:50 AM
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Would you please explain why you believe this is true? I don’t understand what it is trying to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:48 AM
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The common theme is, if you’re not getting results as a guy, and you want results, you have to change. Funny how this advice is out there alongside "be yourself" and "you should not try to be someone else". So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 12:05 AM
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Why do men (spare me the “men are not a monolith” rhetoric. I’m speaking in generalities) think these actions wouldn’t make the woman they’re with insecure? I disagree that your generalities are true. I do not think most men do these. They are not present in any of the my past relationships nor the ones around me. I think you just had some bad apples and have extrapolated that to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:00 AM
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Sexual marketplace success is not a metric for a man's value. Then what is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:54 AM
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She also opened doors for me to be confident around women and date a few more. What did she do, specifically, to help you with this? It's never late for anyone. I hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:52 AM
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So how did you meet your wife? How did you get over your introvertism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:48 AM
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How did it build your confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:13 AM
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From what I’ve been told, women don’t go for trades. They can but they choose not to. So that’s not a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:48 AM
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Something else I’ve noticed that may account for boys not doing as well in our education system: boys are heavily pushed into sports, more so than girls. School takes a backseat to sports and the boys overall do worse than girls. Plus everything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:46 AM
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For those married men, what percentage of those friends came from the marriage or dads of their kids’ friends? That is, they wouldn’t have those friends if it was not for the marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:07 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 10:07 PM
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Which I believe was the point of the post. He wants to show women how are being treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 10:06 PM
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I’m not aware of this ever happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:21 PM
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I just don’t know which advice to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:25 AM
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I think because we all remember the stories or later reveals where you find out a girl was into you and you didn't know it makes us overestimate how often that happens. Typically, when a girl is potentially into you, you know. Maybe I’m the minority here but I cannot tell when a woman is interested in me. They’ve never been overt so I never picked up their signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:00 AM
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I didn't make the world; I just live in it. Guys can be whatever they want, but there are consequences. So true. I just wish I had learned this earlier in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:58 AM
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The advice I’ve always gotten (and explains why women go for bad boys) is that women like and respond well to bold men and not to passive men. Maybe 1% of the population of women will prefer the passive men, the other 99% want the bold man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:56 AM
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Of course advice from some people will contradict advice from totally separate people. Its up to you to decide which advice best suits you and which would be counterproductive Ugh. As if dating and relationships weren’t difficult enough already. But this is a very true statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:54 AM
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The problem with that advice is that men are told that women are attractiveness differently than men so what we think is attractive to women isn’t. Or that we can do something (I have no clue what but supposedly humor) that raises our attractiveness to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:03 AM
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I’m missing that second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:10 AM
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Who isn’t doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 11:08 AM
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I don’t think that’s it. I meet women in familiar environments. Nada.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:56 AM
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If you’ve been approached/asked out by a few women, you’ve greatly underestimated your attractiveness. I’m not attractive and no women has approached nor asked me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:04 PM
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Yes. That is well stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:52 PM
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He’s nowhere near this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:49 PM
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That sounds like a more accurate list than “don’t be an asshole and wash your dick”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:48 PM
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Right? It blows my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:47 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:46 PM
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More and more women are complaining about not being approached. So they are not experiencing the success you mentioned. They would increase their successes by approaching first. Men argue that women approaching first would have a higher success rate than men approaching first. You also realize that your online dating success is not typical?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:43 PM
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That’s what I’m thinking these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:27 AM
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Did you two ever give dating each other a try? I keep hearing about friendship is a good foundation for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:21 AM
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How are those people fucked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:19 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:18 AM
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Same. No one gives me the time of day. I’m invisible. Women don’t show interest. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:17 AM
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I’ve heard this too. I just saw an article the other day about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:12 AM
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Yeah, I hate rejection in all forms, but especially in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:09 AM
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Interesting. I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:06 AM
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Man, i suffer from that so badly. I wish i could shed it but I don’t know how to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:03 AM
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More important compared to what specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:03 AM
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How deep friendship do you go before flirting is allowed? Is this a long term friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:02 AM
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I agree. I’ve learned how replaceable I am in jobs and relationships. I think family is the only place I can’t be replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:07 PM
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I debated with a girl about this. She wanted to know why men didn’t want to be friends after a date ended with no chance of another date or the relationship continuing romantically. She literally thought it was ok to just be friends afterwards. I explained that trying to just be friends out of a dating situation felt like a consolation prize to the man and why he wouldn’t want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:44 AM
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And very difficult for some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:45 PM
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This is important life knowledge that NEEDS to be taught back in the teen years. It’s too late now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:40 PM
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You do have a lot of control over how attractive you are to women, though, that ball is in your court. And I'm not talking about going to the gym. LOL! Really? LOL! No we don’t. We have no control over this; it’s all in the women’s hands. First, we don’t know what women are thinking because we’re. It mind readers. And it differs from woman to woman. Since they won’t share this knowledge, we’re left grasping at straws.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:39 PM
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Some advice: 1. Learn to read people 2. Look for social cues Advice giver completely forgets that there are people who find this extremely difficult. And they may be introverts and/or shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:35 PM
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Tell this to people who give out this stupid saying: “You’ll find it when you stop looking”. If you’re looking, then you never stopped. If you stop, then you don’t care anymore. It boggles my mind people can say shit like this with a straight face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:33 PM
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I’m a guy and I’ve never understood the wall. Women look great at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:23 PM
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Yeah, I couldn’t follow it either. Either OP is not a native English speaker or they used a watered-down version of ChatGPT.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:33 AM
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How can they enforce what happens outside their borders?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:36 PM
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she can do what she wants And so can he. If he doesn’t like it, he’s free to leave her. If he told her he doesn’t like the idea and she does it anyway, she has no one to blame but herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:54 AM
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i doubt women are more emotional LOL. Is this your first time on planet Earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:38 AM
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Women are innately attracted more to men who are risk seeking, a bit daring and uncontrollable. That’s a double edge sword though because those are the same characteristics that correlate with criminality. That’s why they’re attracted to assholes. This is asshole behavior. The real issue is that women go nearly 100% on instinct (ick, vibes, etc) when making decisions about sex/dating Aka, their emotions. and then backwards rationalize their choices and describe them as if it was a conscious deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:19 AM
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Women think men don’t listen. Not true. You are so very correct. Back in the 80s and 90s, women complained about men being too manly and not being emotional enough (like they’re doing again nowadays). So men listened and started to be more emotional. And women responded negatively to that. They wondered where the manly men went to. They were told that you wanted this, so men did it for you. “Be careful what you wish for. You may get it.” It’s another example of women making an emotional decision…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:14 AM
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Perfectly said. I can’t say it any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:06 AM
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any decent emotionally developed person will eventually resent doing that. The type of people left who are down to keep courting strangers will be guys playing the game and will keep playing it. We’ve already reached that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:04 AM
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If you still want a man who approaches you first, then fine, have your preference. But don’t ever complain about the quality of dates you get if you don’t want to do the bare minimum to find decent people. So fucking. True.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:00 AM
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It’s all based on her emotions, not common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:57 AM
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Women don’t like to admit how attracted they are to assholes. Even when we men call them out on it. Plus because women take action based on their emotions, they are going to go after that guy instead of the nice but boring guy even if he’s better for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:55 AM
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Why wouldn’t you want it just right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:13 AM
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Heck yes. Especially the younger she is and the less romantic experience she has. After a bunch of LTRs or a broken marriage, they see the truth. Disney hoodwinked both women and men with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:13 AM
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That is true. Many women can fit our wants. I know I don’t fit many women’s wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:12 AM
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That’s an excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:11 AM
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Regarding your last few sentences, tell him. Tell him you like him. Tell him you want to keep seeing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:09 AM
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Extremely difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:06 AM
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It doesn’t make it any easier to attract a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:26 AM
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Then who chooses first to start the cycle?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:24 AM
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Not only should you keep doing that, educate your fellow men as well. Lead by example. Take group trips so they can see how much travel is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:15 AM
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Because women don't want to be approached. Why is that a factor ? Because approaching women who do not want to be approached is inconsiderate and rude. Do you want to be inconsiderate and rude? Be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:33 AM
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Like damn this is human socializing 101 here. Frankly, I am sick and tired of people assuming the knowledge they have is something that everyone should already have known and that they are weird for not knowing this. You act like this is something everyone should know and you're aghast that some of us do not know this. Where does one learn this when growing up? nowhere. No one teaches this. Nowadays, yes, there is the Internet (but this was not always so) and you can look for it but you have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:30 AM
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the risk simply outweighs the reward. Agreed. I have no desire to get blasted on social media for a misunderstanding or blatant falsehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:36 AM
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If you're famous, there will never be a problem even if 99.5% of the pool hates you. This must explain Pete Davidson. The only way of countering this is by setting up situations in where they stand out from everyone else in the area, whether it's by being taller, having a better job, etc. Can you elaborate on this more? Are you saying it is best to find a way to stand out in the crowd around you? Does it matter what that is? E.g. I'm overweight so I suspect that won't work here nor ever in my fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:14 AM
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I think that says a lot about women. They prioritize the excitement as the number one trait they want and will eliminate other great traits to get this one. Women make decisions based on emotions and not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:53 PM
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How did you and your husband meet? I’m looking for details. Who approached whom? Who said hi? Where at the concert were you when you met/bumped into each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:53 AM
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No, what is the “say potato” meme?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:42 AM
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Dating is hard. Finding the courage to ask someone out is an art. This. This right here. 👆👆👆 If a guy doesn’t have the confidence / self-esteem (from so many failures), he’s effectively screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:28 AM
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I’ve been in Europe for these experiences not USA so experienced may vary… Ahh, now we see why you’ve had success. We can’t duplicate that here in USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:27 AM
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Lots and lots of luck. But I feel I’ve used my good luck up and have none left.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:21 AM
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If the women are so starved, why don’t they approach the men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:21 AM
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to approach me, yet they do. What's that like, having women approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:58 PM
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All of the guys I showed you are overweight, some nearly obese. Not a single one of the guys in those links are obese. Your definitions of overweight / fat / obese must be very off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:55 PM
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being fat is harder on women I cannot disagree more. There are many examples on social media of men showing interest in fat women. There are no instances of women showing interest in fat men. As a fat man, I've received much more interest from gay men than straight women. There is a discrepancy in what women and men consider a "dad bod". It turns out women think it's a man who hasn't exercised in a while and got a bit of belly, but nothing like the fat man that men think of. I.e. women's take on…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:50 PM
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He looks like someone made him in the Chad Lab out of Viking Superhero genetics LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:45 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:54 AM
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I’ve heard too many stories from people saying it’s real. It I think you’re correct. It probably helps a woman notice you when without it, she’d overlook you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:51 AM
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Is Preselection a thing with woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:32 AM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:29 AM
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I know. I was trying to extend it to beyond never.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:19 AM
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We all have the exact same turn ons in dating but we refuse to tell men because it's a conspiracy we have to keep them in the dark and make it hard for them. I knew it! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:25 AM
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That makes sense. I can identify with that being in the Bible Belt South but being agnostic. I had a woman interested in me decide not to move forward because of our differences there. Moving is difficult for me though. I chase affordable rent which pushes me farther away from the city.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:57 PM
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So, how will the single women meet anyone if they don't want any man to approach them? I thought this was the major problem in dating. It's the point of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:14 AM
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I wondered where you were going with that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:02 AM
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It’s much easier than this supposes. No. No it’s not. It will be obvious which women are feeling your vibe and open to you approaching them. Maybe for you but for most men, it is not obvious at all. Women only being very subtle and their “signals” not being picked up (because they’re too subtle) is why there is such a problem in dating with the initial meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:44 PM
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And the rest of the solar system.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:40 PM
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it dont makes any sense Welcome to modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:39 PM
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So how do you want to meet/find your potential dates if not by being approached?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:36 PM
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And he has to read her mind to see which one he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:26 PM
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Wait. So it is bad that the guy you’re attracted to in the bar/store/whatever would very likely say “yes”? Why is this bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:26 PM
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I can’t upvote this enough times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:18 PM
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we believe what we see, not what you say. This is true. And it applies to almost every part of life. To clarify: “What we see” = “what we see them do”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:49 AM
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Logically, yes. But so many women choose the risky guy over the safe guy, so what do you conclude from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:42 AM
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You are being manipulated by paying attention to what women say, rather than watching what women actually do. So true. And this applies to everyone, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:15 PM
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men want to be seen as hot in bed but a good husband and father everywhere else. This is very correct. And we wan the equivalent woman. Even more ironically is that women don't fall for the nice guy act, but they do fall for the narcissist act. Leads to the nice guys bitching about it. Yes, also very true. Being the perfect guy who's capable of being powerful and kind is hard. It's not something most guys can do. You have to train your ass off, become good at martial arts, get jacked, learn how …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:11 PM
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So, risky then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:02 PM
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I also fuck and blow him every chance I get, so there’s that too. Your position as the statistical outlier just increased to more outlier. Most women don't do this. And since I will be asked, complaints from men are over the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:53 PM
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I'm a homebody and want the same in a woman. I want her to want me and want to have sex with me. I have always wanted this. I don't want a risky woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:49 PM
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I'd say that makes for an environment in which to have great sex. It doesn't, or there would be fewer dead bedrooms in marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:45 PM
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It worked for you and u/Windmill_flowers. But it has not worked for the rest of us. Except for you two, women are not turned on by the safe and stable guy. They are turned on by the risky guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:43 PM
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This is where you have it wrong. For many women the safe choice is their number one choice. Yet they are still less attracted to this choice than they were to the risky choice. Hence you as the safe choice will never get to experience her the way in which the risky choice got to experience her infatuation. You will usually get a lukewarm honeymoon period. and lukewarm sexual experience with her. He didn't. By your own definition here, the safe guy is not the first choice. Not until after the ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:42 PM
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The few women in the comments are by far statistical outliers because most men have run into this issue in the dating scene. The safe and stable men do not attract most other women. The odds (that are already stacked against us) are NOT in our favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:38 PM
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There is nothing inherently wrong about it. It's that it does not lead to successful dating relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:35 PM
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Sacrifices that don't lead to better dating relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:34 PM
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Unfortunately, you are very correct about the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:01 PM
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You are mistaking feeling safe within a relationship with picking a safe guy. From my experience, women ideal choice would be a risky choice but feeling safe with that guy. This right here is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:08 AM
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Then why do young women and those who are not mature enough go after the risky men and leave the safe ones behind? Then when that phase of life ends (usually against her will), she tries to find someone safe since the risky guys are gone. She does not want the safe guy, but that's all she has to choose from. Guys don't want to be a woman's second choice; they want to be her first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:03 AM
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Because to women, "safe" = "boring". They won't say "boring" to your face so they came up with "safe" instead. But when you press for details, you eventually get to the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:49 AM
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Because women have described us as such, especially "safe", because they won't say "boring".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:41 AM
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It's in their history. Those who are the safe choice typically were told they are a great friend but women passed them over for the risky men. So they see the arrogant fboys getting all the attention from women and conclude that is what women want. It's why they think only the a$$holes get the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:22 PM
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What specific things does your husband do to show you this? I understand the concept of equal partner but I'm hazy on the specifics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:18 PM
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The shy bookworm sometimes hides a freaky side. I'm a homebody (maybe that makes me boring, whatever) and I would love the bookworm. Plus they tend to be very smart. And I enjoy reading myself. This type of woman usually is ok spending time together doing your own thing, which sound great to me. You have your together time and then you have your separate time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:17 PM
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Most women at 22 do not have that maturity since they are still chasing risky men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:51 PM
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I have been told that many times, also that I'm "husband material". Plus I've been called boring before. And I have none of the attributes of the risky (fboy) men, much to my detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:50 PM
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"horigamy"? What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:48 PM
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I always thought "husband material" was a good thing. Now I'm hearing it is not. So now I question all the times I was called "good husband material".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:46 PM
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Between these two choices, I want to be seen as the safe choice. If that means a life of loneliness and celibacy, so be it. My personality is not the risky one and I could not make myself that if I even tried. The risky choice never ends well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:43 AM
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I swear the only fucking people who seem to divide female mating choices like this are lonely dudes on social media. That's most subs on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:35 AM
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its usually that she's trying to let him down easy Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:34 AM
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How did you meet these two women? You can make yourself more desirable. Its more than hit the gym and make $ 100,000 , dress well and drive a expensive car. Then what does it take?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:31 AM
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No, I am the safe choice and I love pizza, burgers, and fries. Although someone could say eating that bad is risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:23 AM
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why would I want a risky one. I don't know, but many women do go for the risky one. Usually younger women and those who cheat on their man. Women who do not want to settle and want to party it up both tend to go for the risky man because he is more fun. The safe guy is boring to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:20 AM
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I'm the safe choice and I attract very few women. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:16 AM
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That puts you into the extreme minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:13 AM
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Being a safe choice is all right, being only the safe choice isn't. Can you elaborate further? This sounds like the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:12 AM
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What's the male version of the Madonna / Whore complex? This sounds like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:09 AM
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Sexually aggressive sounds like a detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:25 AM
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What irks me is my ex did more gaming after we broke up. And now with her new boyfriend, who happens to be a big gamer too (and in our gaming social circle). WTF?
/r/MenSupportMen18/12/24 01:04 AM
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Well I’ve only been reading this sub for a year or less. I have female friends who haven’t shared this truth with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 12:29 AM
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Is this common amongst women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:44 PM
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Do you know if most women read the profiles? A female friend of mine told me not to bother with details in the profile but most other advice says to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:43 PM
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Right? Where was this info years ago? Why is it relatively unknown?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:42 PM
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I was surprised this was glossed over and I had to go way down to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:47 AM
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Where does it say she regrets her actions? I have not come across this. And she’s preparing for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:23 AM
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That sucks. I hope you’re better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:56 AM
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I’m not broke but not rolling in money either. Where are more women like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:53 AM
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Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:52 AM
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He didn’t say he’d lose weight right? He ate way too many calories and gained weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:51 AM
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I’m available.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:50 AM
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I’m sorry, bro. I’ve had similar experiences. I e only had one LTR in 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 02:50 AM
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Kind of. My ex girlfriend and I met in a board gaming group. After a few years together, she wanted to spend less time doing that. But that is my primary hobby. Our gaming social circle has several married couples who game. That’s what I wanted but it was not her. Any future serious relationship will have to be this. I’m not giving it up again.
/r/MenSupportMen14/12/24 02:37 AM
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Most likely. But they don’t say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:34 AM
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So how does “your fat ass” get women? I’m a fat ass and looking for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:33 AM
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Who is the McDonald’s dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:32 AM
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That's how it is for women, not 99% 80% of men. I fixed that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:40 AM
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What service?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:39 AM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:38 AM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:36 AM
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Why are you with a broke person? I thought women did not want that. What does he do to make up for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:23 AM
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When you say you meet them online, do you mean dating apps? Or something different?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:17 AM
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Why is it insincere to seek knowledge one does not possess?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:15 AM
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pretended for 2 years. And did one slip. And got dumped immiedietely. What was the slip up? What did the mutual friend say?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:09 AM
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>If I had a hard day and can come home and lay my head on my woman's legs while we watch TV in silence and she pats my head? That's home. That's not just home, that's heavenly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:03 AM
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And how old is that post now?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:45 PM
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Agreed: “Just be yourself and be nice” absolutely does NOT work. I’m pissed that I bought into this so many years ago. So many wasted years. I don’t even recall from where I first heard it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:31 PM
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Man, I regret never going through the wild period. I missed out on life opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:37 PM
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So the conflict for men is either show the qualities that make you a good boyfriend/husband but a lackluster sex life (because you said those qualities aren’t sexually interesting to her) or show the qualities that are sexually interesting and have lots of great sex but no good relationships? Neither are positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:06 PM
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Man, I hate that advice. Along with “touch grass”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:42 AM
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The problem with that advice is “best version of yourself” is too vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:41 AM
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You’re dating a broke guy? How did the relationship start?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:09 AM
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Then how does he do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:08 AM
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You only mentioned the approach stage. What about everything that comes after that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:03 AM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:54 AM
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Same. I’ll be 100% myself. At this point in life, I don’t care if they like me or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:53 AM
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Me for example. I’m 30+ years out of high school thus I’m 30+ years behind everyone else. I know not what I am doing or where to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:51 AM
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What are those guys doing differently? How are they succeeding? I can never got answers to these questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:46 AM
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How did these interactions start?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:41 AM
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Have you asked out many women and have been rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:01 AM
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It absolutely sucks. And takes a heavy toll on your self-confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:59 AM
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If I recall correctly, she ended the experiment 6 months early because of how bad living as a man actually turned out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:57 AM
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But think it’s no big deal for men to approach women. 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:55 AM
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Oh, I thought the text above sounded familiar. I remember that post. It was very accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:54 AM
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Of Course they underestimate; most women haven’t approached men at all. So they have no idea what goes into the process. They tell men to suck it up because it’s not that difficult. It’s pretty telling when a woman will say she won’t approach a man for fear of rejection. Men go thru that chance of rejection all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:53 AM
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Why is “fish and fisherman” a shitty analogy? It seems pretty accurate to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:51 AM
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Here’s something odd: A female friend of mine wants me to get on the dating apps and says I shouldn’t worry about having a profile but to just answer the questions. Ive never started an OLD account so I’m not sure which questions she is referring to. She was on the apps years ago so i think she’s going with outdated data. It’s just odd to me that a smart woman would advocate against the conventional wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:00 PM
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I second the jars thing. Any small thing you can do to make him feel useful is good. It’s not patronizing and he may figure it one day but if he’s smart, he’ll play along. And thank him for it. A “Thank you, babe” and a quick peck on the cheek or lips goes a long way. If you want him to choose something like place for dinner and he does, do NOT fight him on it or disagree unless you have a darn good reason. Go with his choice. If you don’t like it, next time choose instead or provide guidance of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:17 PM
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How did Bumble fail? How do women fair worse in OLD apps? Agreed: Reddit is full of echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:58 PM
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Agreed. So why don’t women as a whole want to do those jobs now? In WWII, they had to since the men were gone. When the men came back, they took those jobs back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:42 AM
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No you can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:36 AM
0

If women only understood how easy it would be for them to get a guy by approaching one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:35 AM
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Men want to be attracted to her. That’s it for looks. She has to have a good personality to keep a man’s attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:34 AM
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I would love to know how they’re doing it. That’s the success I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:28 AM
1

Watch out for that. Many a relationship have broken up by the woman’s jealous single friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:23 AM
1

How do? Why did you break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:22 AM
1

How do they do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:26 AM
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This. I live alone and do everything. I know how to cook, clean, laundry, etc. Cold Approaching women/Getting dates is the most difficult thing I have ever done in my life. And will be the most difficult until the day I die.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:25 AM
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Typically because they don’t like the men’s ideas. My ex didn’t like my choices so we usually did hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:03 AM
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I don’t think women are better at it than men. Women are pushed to form them while are enticed to not to. Men are still told emotionally to hold everything in so they don’t look for support networks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:02 AM
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Women give great advice on how to keep a relationship going well. They give horrible advice on how to meet and pickup a woman. Mostly because they don’t know what it’s like to do this. They’re used to being the receiver and not the doer in those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:40 AM
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it’s more about being in the right place and acting the right way. That’s almost worse because now it’s random. So it doesn’t matter what I do; I’m at the mercy of fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:58 AM
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Then what? How does a a man attract a woman to date? That’s the $1 million question many of us need answered with truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:53 AM
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Something you’re not seeing yet is your real problem, here. Correct. And not knowing what you don’t know, you can’t fix it. That’s why men go looking for answers. They risk falling down the RP rabbit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:52 AM
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Just because it’s easy for you doesn’t mean it’s easy food everyone. Not all of us were given good looks or good social skills or courage to cold approach a woman. I’m good at math but I don’t expect everyone to be good as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:46 AM
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Women as friends are even better to learn about women’s standards, I had female friends in high school and it didn’t lead to any understanding of dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:35 AM
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Not quite. This was my childhood except no girls. It was just my male friends and myself. So I didn’t learn anything about girls from that time. Not until many years into adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:32 AM
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Yep! From Venus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:08 AM
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But we had no idea of the ramifications and no one warned us. We only learn it too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:05 AM
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Agreed. Disney and the media lied too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:04 AM
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Prom is not the barometer of the dating world. I would argue it artificially increases the idea of who dates. I can only use my own history here. This was over 30 years ago. My only date in high school was my prom date and it was a disaster. And she wanted to go with me. I don’t know for others but I’ve heard and agree with media offering unattainable ideas of relationships, namely Disney and related movies. The nice guy doesn’t get the girl. There is no Prince Charming. Everyone sucks. What suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:02 AM
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Those women above should check their friend zones for the men they claim they’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:05 AM
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There are plenty of men like that out there. So why can’t your wife’s single friends find them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:03 AM
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Where are these women? because I can’t find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:02 AM
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Learning to socialize is difficult for those of us who don’t know how to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:36 AM
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Is the inverse better? Bad looking, but empathetic and gracious in bed If so, how does that kind of man get attention from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:15 AM
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It may not be difficult for you, but for many of us, it is. You don’t get to invalidate that for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:37 AM
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Why do you consider her the “love of your life” is she both cheated on you and was “physically violent”? That sounds like a bad description.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:42 AM
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Positivity. If she’s smiling and happy and positive. It helps balance my pessimism and uplifts me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:08 PM
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But you said a looooooooooooong way which indicates it’s highly important. I guess I have attributes that negate it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:26 AM
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My condolences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:23 AM
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These days that would be seen as creepy. Have you seen anyone successfully use magic tricks to get a woman? Barney on HIMYM doesn’t count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:21 AM
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I don’t shoot a lot of shots nor am I a Chad, so I don’t have any basis for comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:19 AM
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I’m fucked. And not in the good way. I’m 4/4 there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:46 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:44 PM
1

What does original comment actually mean? What does “behaving sexily” mean or look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:15 PM
1

So it’s an insolvable puzzle to find out what to improve?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:12 PM
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It’s not logical/rational. This is one of the most factual statements I have ever read.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:39 PM
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Nerdy guys are definitely not Chads. Chads are the top percentage of guys with looks and status and sometimes bad boy charm, who can hookup with any woman they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 08:52 AM
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Yes. People who give advice especially confidence advice forget this fact. Probably because they didn’t go through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:44 PM
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On what are you basing these opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:44 PM
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Yes, this is me. I don’t know why I didn’t talk to my dad about girls and dating. Probably because we’re different and what worked for him wouldn’t work for me. Being from different times is a big part of that. Plus where he grew up vs where I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:43 PM
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This is me. I just need to figure out where to cast my net for best results. I don’t know where yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:41 PM
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The difficult part is how does one do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:37 PM
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I don’t have “it”, and it’s not meant to be for me. I’m trying to make my peace with it; it’s hard but it is what it is. Same with me. I’m 50 now and running out of time. Making peace with it is one of the toughest things I’ve ever had to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:34 PM
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A charismatic doctor is going to do far far better than an awkward warehouse worker. Don’t you mean it the other way? A doctor is going to do better than a warehouse worker. So which is more likely to be successful with meeting/dating women: The awkward doctor or the charismatic warehouse worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:31 PM
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Yep. So much so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:26 PM
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Yeah life is a learning curve. Yes, agreed. And it’s steep. We all get there eventually lol 🤝 I totally disagree. Some people never do. I’m approaching that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:25 PM
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Huh? What does this mean? ELI5 please.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:23 PM
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How do men learn to understand women? I fail at this so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:20 PM
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I’m tall and not successful so height isn’t the issue. But I agree status and social skills are hugely important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:19 PM
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That’s because so much in life is down to dumb luck. Were you lucky with your genes? Were you lucky to be born to an upper class family without money issues? Were you lucky to get good looks? Were you lucky to be an extrovert?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:18 PM
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Right? Sounds like one of those “negs” that PUAs use that women hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:14 PM
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So if you have bad luck, how do you turn it around?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:13 PM
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Yeah, luck seems to be the most important component to relationship success. The question then is: how to change that luck for the better?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:10 PM
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How the heck did you pull this off while homeless? Isn’t that a huge barrier to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:07 PM
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Not you what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:06 PM
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Why does a camera go a long way?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:00 PM
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I would normally agree with you but I see guys with average to below average looks still get women. Maybe they have status or money that I can’t see.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:59 PM
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Very true. The question is: what is the extra stuff that is needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:56 PM
1

but making women laugh absolutely makes you more attractive. Not attractive enough. More is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:56 PM
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It takes a lot more than making women laugh. I’m good at that and still have low success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:55 PM
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How so? Why don’t think it’s underappreciated?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:52 PM
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Why is effort into getting laid more important than we think it is? That seems counterproductive/counterintuitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:51 PM
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Your Marine friend is not a good example here since his looks improved through surgery. That’s not feasible for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:50 PM
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There must be something else needed. I have a few good social groups and they have platonic friendships with women. I still have no success and am not meeting single, available women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:48 PM
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JFC, that’s a long list. Other than dumb luck, how do couples come together?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:30 PM
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So it’s better to disagree with a woman? This has never made sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:29 PM
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Thank you. I know what an actual dog whistle is but not the term here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 07:52 AM
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Like women’s signs to men to approach them! Only women know them because they are too subtle but they think men should see them because they see them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 07:49 AM
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I’ve flipped back and forth on it. I get overwhelmed by all of the info and advice I read online and it makes me not want to date or get into a relationship. But i see so many great relationships around me and i want that. Plus I still want kids if possible. My last relationship had good parts but not enough for forever.
/r/MenSupportMen06/08/24 10:29 PM
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👆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:24 PM
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“Dog whistle”?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 04:34 AM
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My two cents on testosterone and estrogen in men. Take it with a grain of salt. I have red dots on my skin that my doctor said are estrogen. I wonder why I have what seems too much estrogen. Around the same time, I tested my testosterone levels because I was too young to have ED; I tested extremely low. I read somewhere that fat cells (at least in men) can convert testosterone into estrogen. I am very overweight. So maybe my body is turning toste4one into estrogen. That could be the cause of the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 07:55 AM
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What health issues did the testosterone fix?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 07:48 AM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:53 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:13 AM
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this realization has actually improved my life with women and made my marriage really great. Can you elaborate on this please? What do you do now that you didn’t do before?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:12 AM
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What is attracting those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:07 PM
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If you are just plain stupid asshole then it won't get you far, but if you are charming and generally nice to people at the beginning then it's a win. No, I’m charming (I’ve been told) and am nice and all it gets me is potential friends. So it takes more than this to get women’s attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:06 PM
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That explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:03 PM
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Good point. Not all then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:00 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:50 PM
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What are examples of things other than being nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:49 PM
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My biggest beef with this whole thing is that the purpose was to show domestic violence against women. But instead of saying this message, women used the stereotypical method of indirect communication, which hindered getting their message out.
/r/MensRights23/05/24 06:02 AM
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Romcoms aren't real life and thus not a good source as a real life example. I wish they were as I would have better success with relationships. Romcoms and Disney have screwed up modern dating relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:19 AM
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Do you like it in someone approaching you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:19 AM
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its to find a partner who truly values you. This is where men need help and they come to places like Reddit to find it. Starting with where to find such a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:02 AM
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Because women tell me the truth What is the truth that they share with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 02:00 AM
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It boggles my mind that sales people can do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:27 AM
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Open up only to other men in your same situation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 08:26 PM
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Dali was fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:13 AM
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Why is gaming a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:16 AM
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Probably obesity. I think so in my case. Fat cells can convert T into E.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:15 AM
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Same except The Plan was put together by me, my parents, society, etc. and The Plan failed. Or I failed The Plan. 30 years later, I’m barely getting by. I have no purpose. I don’t know where to find purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:15 AM
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Disney fucked up dating and relationships more than every other single force.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:47 PM
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Yep. But it just further supports watch what they do and not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:45 PM
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I’m single and want kids. I’d be willing to do whatever I could for my wife. I’d want her to be as happy as possible. I’m 49M so I don’t know if it will happen now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:28 AM
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Go to the store. Buy a hat. Dance till morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:30 AM
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To be fair, most posts to PPD are ragebait.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:17 PM
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What about the person made it awesome?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 06:07 PM
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Women who have options are not going to send more than a "hey". We literally wouldn't message you first at all if the app didn't make us. Women don't chase men. Talk about low effort. This effort is below the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 06:02 PM
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5.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:55 PM
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Ugly men know they can’t compete with Chad. There is no disillusion here. Chads don’t put in much effort because they don’t need to. They know to put in effort on themselves and not anyone else. They’ll put in enough effort to bed a woman and then they’re off to the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:53 PM
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A common piece of advice I have found in the dating subs is for a guy to be around women. A sister, a female friend, female coworker, etc. By being around women, other women automatically think better of you than if they saw you by yourself or with just guys. The women around you have “preselected” you and non-verbally indicated to other women that you’re safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:22 PM
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I think women want a man that works at making himself attractive; his desirability to others is ancillary if it exists at all. Women’s propensity for preselection says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:45 PM
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You’re saying once a guy is labeled a friend by a woman, he can change to boyfriend material?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:32 PM
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And never share it with your coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:48 AM
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It’s not a common topic by any means but “passport bro” is used more than “sex tourist”. “Sex tourist” is what the media uses for political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:47 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:53 PM
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Where do you go to find people when you actually want a romantic connection? I keep hearing dating apps are a bad choice e even though some people have had that success with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:21 AM
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I am always surprised to hear women are with guys like this. Why don’t you leave the moment one of these (actually) ick attributes shows up? Doesn’t wipe his ass? Leave him. Now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:53 PM
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Let me know what works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:22 PM
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Never leave that stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:25 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:20 PM
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I don't understand. Was it recently where she said her emotional needs are not being met? Or 20 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:46 AM
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Splitting the bill. Separate checks. Pay for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:14 AM
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Right? It’s easiest in high school, drops off in college, more so depending on the size of the school. And continues to dwindle as your potential dating pool gets smaller and smaller as you age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:01 PM
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Women aren't complicated. <Snicker>. Yeah, right. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:51 PM
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There are other groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:30 PM
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It’s luck, for the most part. You can tilt the odds a bit, but it’s basically down to luck. This is what scares me. That no matter the work, it’s all luck. I’m mostly bad luck, so changing my fortune is mostly impossible. How the heck has society have so many successful couples? By successful, I mean they found each other and married, even if circumstances or their lives are not perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:30 PM
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Man, I hope so. I will be adventuring into OLD for the first time this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:02 AM
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Dating is not easy on anyone Thank you! Say it louder for the people in the back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:36 AM
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But one day I will look like an older version of me. That's true for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:29 AM
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Holy cow, what an analysis. Perfectly worded. Reading all of this makes me wonder just how couples and marriages have formed. How did people do this, find everything they want plus the other person wants them? It seems so difficult and impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:46 AM
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More likely just don’t have the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:26 AM
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Teach us, Obi Wan.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:21 AM
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Isn’t that the core of online dating though? You’re advertising your best traits to get someone’s attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:11 PM
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If you aren’t a good looking giga Chad can’t be mad women see you as safe dependable option. Yes I can. I can be mad for any reason I want. But that’s the side issue. You’re describing a woman who is settling for the safe, dependable man rather than one she desires. Any man would be mad at that. He wants the woman he desires to desire him the same amount. He doesn’t want to settle nor be settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:08 PM
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More and more women are just having nothing to do with men because men aren’t offering women what they want. That’s why dating is such a sausage fest. Men want what women offer more than vs versa. What do women want? Specifics please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:13 PM
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Especially software sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:58 AM
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Don’t hold your breath; you don’t want to die waiting on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:57 PM
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Or it’s never been pointed out so how would I know? This just in: men don’t know now these things at birth. Someone has to teach it. Some of us never had a teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:56 PM
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It’s easy for you to cast this judgement from the other side. See it from men’s side then we’ll talk. Part of the whole problem of approaching is women think they’re obvious or obvious enough when they are ambiguous at best and unknown at worst. Men have been asking women for more obvious signs and to stop being subtle. Women think they’re subtle when they’re not seen by men because men don’t think like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:55 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:44 PM
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They don’t need game. They just need to overtly show interest. Then the man will approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:41 PM
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How much of this did you see? You’d have to be “Henry Cavill handsome walking around shirtless” to get this much attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:41 PM
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True but one generalization that is true is that almost all of them won’t approach or make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:40 PM
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If you’re having the kind of success you mention, you are most assuredly not a troll or caveman. I doubt you’re fat. I’m fat and I get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:39 PM
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I've had women I didn't know kiss me or grope me in clubs and I'm not particularly attractive, Congrats. You do realize this doesn’t happen to 99.99% of men, right? I’d love to experience this but I know by now it will never happen. I've also found out friends had secret crushes on me Most men have had this but only learn years after the fact because the women in question won’t approach. so I don't think it's always so clear cut with women. It’s almost never clear cut with women. That’s the prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:35 PM
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Right? This doesn’t happen to 99.99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:30 PM
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No. Why would anyone label a woman who approaches first a whore? It just means she’s brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:27 PM
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And they give men (as a group) crap for not risking rejection when they themselves won’t risk it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:26 PM
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Because they don’t approach men thus they don’t know how nerve wracking it is. They assume it is easy since men have been doing it for all of history. It would make things easier and better for both sides. If women who want a man to approach gave him a clear signal, he is more likely to approach. These days (with men not wanting to be labeled a creep or shown on TikTok by mistake), across the board men are less likely to approach which means even fewer meetings are going to happen. Men have show…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:22 PM
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In PPD, no. In other subs, yes. Hopefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:30 PM
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One guy I know just cold approaches girls everywhere he goes. I thought women nowadays found this creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:55 PM
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LOL. Learned from the not/great cooking, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:57 AM
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Then how do you explain assholes getting women/sex/laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:59 PM
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Odd, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:26 PM
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So assholes hide behind “not boring”? Is it a skill they perfect which is why women have trouble seeing around the disguise?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:43 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:01 PM
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Is he husband material? I.e. worth marrying?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:23 PM
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Really not worth stressing over. True. But we know this only from being on the other side. Teenagers have so much peer pressure to have first kiss and first date and even first sex experience before graduating high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:22 PM
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Why does it not work in reverse? Men don’t need pre-selection to meet women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 06:39 AM
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Some men are shy and/or inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:01 PM
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Why? Why can’t it be easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:46 PM
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How did you learn to read these signals? This has been one of the most frustrating things I’ve come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:43 PM
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Just in every day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:36 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:32 PM
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That seems…just wrong. And counterproductive. We’ve (men) have been told countless times to respect women’s boundaries. And now you’re saying not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:31 PM
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And vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:47 AM
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If all guys understood how women think I think this is impossible. What we hate is not knowing the rules of the game we're playing. So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:04 AM
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Are they referring to just romantic relationships? Or anything close like family and friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:02 AM
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Respect. 👊
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:25 AM
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Where did you find a goddess like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:23 AM
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This seems out of context.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:14 AM
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I’m with you both. I’m 49M and wonder if it is too late to make a family. Most people say it is but a few people think it can still happen. It’s heartbreaking knowing that it’s mostly my bad decision-making that got me to this point. Nothing is more depressing in my life than that realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:13 AM
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What is considered the “true nature of women”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:08 PM
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Which two? That comment mentioned more than 2 things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:57 PM
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So, why wouldn't he want to get married, what exactly does he lose? I suspect OP is from USA and based his views on its stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:36 AM
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We had regular timeline touch bases to make sure we were consistently on the same page. That’s an excellent idea. Very prudent of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:20 AM
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I’m curious why. Is it because you’re unmarried?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:51 AM
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no one makes money by divorcing I would argue that the lawyers make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:17 AM
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Do you see what I'm getting at here ? No, you imply we can all figure out what you mean by reading between the lines or guessing. Why can’t you just say what you mean and eliminate all doubt on what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:17 PM
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Good. I may still have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:27 PM
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I sure hope the real number is higher than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 07:19 PM
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Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:20 PM
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Your question is superficial and that’s part of the reason people vote you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:05 PM
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That’s the problem with these questions. It’s all subjective but the askers want an objective answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:03 PM
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Where did you meet these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 01:22 PM
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She falls in love then has sex with him? That would seem that women fall in love really soon after dating starts. From what I’ve read on Reddit, that is not case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:59 PM
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You are a wise man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:48 PM
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Weren’t matchmaking services big in the 80s and 90s before The Internet grew? They seemed to have died down. So we’re going to go back to them? Interesting. That may be better than OLD sites. More personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:36 AM
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Before I continue, are you a woman? My response will depend on whether you’re a woman or a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:48 PM
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I shower every day and use deodorant so I don’t think it’s smelling bad. I think I’m ugly but my ex didn’t think so while we were together, as far as I know. I haven’t asked anyone out in awhile as I don’t want a rebound after the end of my previous relationship. My reply was more general than anything specific I have done in the last year. I wish I knew how many got dates and girlfriends. I’ve only had one my whole life. I maybe on the spectrum so it’s more difficult I hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:45 PM
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Then we agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:49 PM
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Eek. I hope you learned from that. Incel forums are never a good place to learn info, unless you’re learning about the enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 06:52 PM
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I don’t consider myself a bottom feeder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 06:38 PM
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So who thinks they’re below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:43 AM
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I flipped my physical ineptitude, lack of speaking ability, predisposition to petrifying panic and blush attacks, and self-image as being a submissive NPC all on their head. How did you do these things? Specifics, please. I need the same growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:24 AM
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Look at men and sports: the ultimate competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:36 AM
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Seriously? People use Instagram to meet? I guess I’m too old for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:16 AM
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With that said most men can date women and find a relationship if they are well mannered, kind, and have a job. I think it takes more than that. Other men I know and I have all 3 and can’t get dates. I want to hear other men’s take on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 12:12 AM
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Because of the crappy economy and the huge rise in prices across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:04 PM
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Most men can get gf though. I’m going to disagree with you on this point. Go read all of the dating and relationship subreddits and you can see all the trouble men have getting girlfriends. It is not easy at all; it is in fact quite difficult. It is difficult just to get a date, let alone date long enough for her to become your girlfriend. Women don’t need men (as they collectively are fond of saying), so there are fewer reasons for them to date men. So it is a steep uphill battle for men to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:59 PM
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I could have used that advice decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:52 AM
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You still have free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:51 AM
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Wanting to change it is not the same as choosing the best celibate. They are different. You can become a priest voluntarily, voluntarily being celibate. You can then work to get celibacy removed but that doesn’t change the fact that you voluntarily chose to be celibate by choosing to be a priest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:09 PM
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That would explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:58 PM
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Most relationships seem to have started from luck. So how do you increase good luck and decrease bad luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:56 PM
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This is why I used to think being a nice guy would help with dating. All of my single female friends back then would complain about dating AHs and wonder where nice guys are. Then they would still date AHs. So watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:53 PM
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Nursing? You had probably had lots of sex with fellow nurses, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:51 PM
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You could learn to let go of stupid ass standards that don't even make you happy, and meet a woman who does the same. People do it every day my guy. Hope do they do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:26 AM
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How do you define excitement? It sounds like a broad term. Of course it could be unique to each woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:12 AM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 10:12 PM
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You’ll have better odds than anywhere else. The women to men ratio is one of the highest in Russia and Eastern Europe countries. Just don’t become an alcoholic.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 10:46 PM
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In your first sentence, you used “angles” when you meant “angels”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:47 AM
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lol. It took me a moment to I love math jokes/puns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:46 AM
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Yeah, that happens every one in a million.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:27 PM
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Holy cow, that crap is going around high schools now? They have to be getting ti from social media. It is saddening that RP and MGTOW is spreading around in their impressionable years. this "keep the body guessing" diet, What is that? I have never heard of it. It's good that your son is working on his health and fitness and laying a good foundation for his future. I wish I had done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:30 AM
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I guess since I believed it, I can’t see how they don’t also. What’s their reasoning on why it’s dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:22 AM
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Yep. I absolutely agree. It’s been a rude awakening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:21 AM
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lol.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:15 AM
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I couldn't find the one dedicated to profile review (and I may have mistaken the other ones to do this), but r/Tinder will do it. Make sure you state that you want your preview reviewed and constructively critiqued. r/OkCupid r/hingeapp
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 08:02 PM
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We’re missing the other stuff too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:46 PM
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That’s not enough info to evaluate your pics. Unfortunately we’d have to see both your and his profiles to be sure.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 10:55 PM
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There’s a subreddit where you can post your profile and get feedback on it. I forget the name but look for it. You can also ask the AskWomen subreddits for help to critique your profile.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 10:54 PM
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Yep. I totally agree. Because that’s been me.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 10:52 PM
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Not very often. Shyness keeps you away from socializing. Since the majority of women don’t approach men, you’re up s**t creek without a paddle. I know because that’s me for over 30 years.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 10:51 PM
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The envy of men everywhere.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 02:16 AM
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I like browsing male fitness communities to flick my bean to fat dudes’ before pics I’m sorry, I couldn’t get past this part. Really?
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 02:09 AM
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because they don’t seem to fully understand that themselves Well crap, if women don't understand themselves, men have no shot at understanding women.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 05:24 AM
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That's all the hope we have left.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 08:20 AM
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What women say and what they actually want again are not the same and I learned that about as harsh lad you can Yep. Watch what they do, not what they say. This also comes up in dating advice. Women can give great relationship advice but poor dating advice. Their dating advice tends to be ideal rather than actual.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 08:08 AM
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I think I’ve heard something similar.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 08:13 PM
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Yes, please elaborate. What specifically did you learn?
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:56 PM
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Once again, watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:56 PM
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Crap, do us non-Chads have any chance? This guy is living on a whole another level.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:53 PM
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Crap, you had girlfriends cheat on you? When this happened, were you Chad? I don’t n ow if you specified if you e always been Chad or improved yourself to it.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:51 PM
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even if you don't it the process that's the true reward. Nope. The process is most definitely not the true reward. Getting the woman is the reward. The process sucks. Especially when it ends in failure. It's like magic with a bit of mumbo but mostly just the simple jumbo What the heck is this mumbo jumbo?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:00 AM
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Why? You managed to find one girl somehow. So you can use same knowledge and experience to find another. It will be easier next time. No, nothing is ever "easier" when dating. Since "women are not monoliths" what worked on one woman cannot transfer to the next one. Plus I do not know what attracted my ex to me. Thanks to COVID, my social circle is much smaller than it used to be so meeting eligible women is more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:05 AM
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I'm eager to learn. My ex did not seem too much into teaching, but there were things we did not go into.
/r/seduction07/10/23 01:08 AM
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Meh, that's easier said than done. Especially in USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:42 PM
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But the problem is not that they don’t know it, the problem is that by the time they understand this all the good men will be already in a relationship with a faithful woman. This is me except reverse the genders. I feel like I waited too long to really date and there are no good women left. Plus it has been stated that women don't want to date someone with so little experience or that did date in his 20s and 30s; "there must be something wrong with him". "Well yes there is, but not what you are…
/r/seduction04/10/23 08:37 AM
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You’re missing the point which is I don’t care why she invited me out. I understand that. I still am trying to figure women out. I don't have your dating history so I have less to go on and learn from.
/r/seduction04/10/23 08:28 AM
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What is your culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:03 AM
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Seriously? It's manipulative.
/r/seduction03/10/23 07:00 AM
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Find the girls that are actually interested in a romantic relationship with you How do you find that?
/r/seduction03/10/23 06:48 AM
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Why did she invite you out? Was she trying to get you following her again? Do you think she truly missed you. Why was she disappointed? Because you would not hang pout any more?
/r/seduction03/10/23 06:47 AM
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How did the book change things for you?
/r/seduction03/10/23 05:37 AM
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What do you agree with there?
/r/seduction03/10/23 05:36 AM
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There are guys who are legitimately nice. Still - it doesn't get you anywhere with women and will likely make things more difficult with women. Agreed. That's the story of my life.
/r/seduction03/10/23 05:04 AM
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God, I hope this is true. Or I'm screwed, and not in a that good way.
/r/seduction03/10/23 04:57 AM
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that it's adventurous and has freedom in it bcoz us girls life is already lame and we need something firey" So you're looking for something dangerous or thrilling, like skydiving and not something like board games.
/r/seduction03/10/23 04:57 AM
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You have to make the rules to the game (don’t play by theirs or you’ll always end up in the penalty box/friend zone). What does this mean? How do you make up rules? I only see success stories by playing by women's/society's rules.
/r/seduction03/10/23 04:55 AM
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Seconded.
/r/seduction03/10/23 04:30 AM
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Good luck. That is a worthy goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:12 AM
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It just doesn’t happen for some people. Maybe they were too shy This. This is why I was a virgin till 40. I did not prioritize dating, I did not want hookups (I grew up religious), and was too shy to approach women when I did want sex. I had a plan to go to a Vegas brothel for my 40th. Luckily, that did not happen and then my ex and I dated and there came sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:02 AM
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Luckily for me, my ex gave me a chance even though I was a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:58 AM
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Not easily. Unless you have money for an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:54 AM
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They sound like religious nutjobs. Ignore them. If you want sex, all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:53 AM
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Because I did not want hookups, and I was too shy to approach women. This was from the time before apps and approaching in bars and clubs was more accepted than today. Basically I possess attributes that pretty much guarantee me no chance in the dating world. FML.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:11 AM
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When the best years of your life were in the past with someone who chose to not be there in the present, knowing you’ll never have something again that haunts your every step Man, I identify with this so much. For us brooding idealist romantic types this can be brutal, if not soul crushing. Yeah, I don't if this was learned or my personality, but I have too much innocence and naivete around ideal romantic relationship. The Disney effect, but for guys. And getting into the real world was eye-open…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:41 AM
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There's a difference between spending all your time chasing and being open to romance without centering it in your life. What is that difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:39 AM
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Yeah, no one has a definitive way to meet and talk to woman as a person. People love to spout advice about where but when their advice does not work they have no follow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:36 AM
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A woman needs to trust you above all else. Exactly how is this done in the context of modern dating? Specifics, please. Reddit and the web are just full of conflicting advice, we inexperienced people have too much difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:32 AM
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If you managed to get one girl to date you then you'll be able to find another. There is no guarantee of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:25 AM
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No one gives a shit about men with depression because women are repulsed by male weakness. Women are allowed to be fragile, men are not. Enjoy, I guess. This is so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:23 AM
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Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:22 AM
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What are these ways/methods you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:17 AM
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You'll find her. I know your intentions are good and I applaud you for that, but please don't spread false hope like this. For many of us, it just won't happen. I thought I had it, but it failed. Now I have no idea how to duplicate finding that kind of a relationship, but that doesn't fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:16 AM
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Right? It seems like everyone let us down, although I know it has more to do with life changing. Buy a home, no longer easily done. Degree gets you a job? Not anymore. Degree easy to get? Nope, and expensive as hell. Here comes a lifetime of debt, and no guarantee of a job to pay that debt off. This is one of the biggest scams life/society has thrown at us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:14 AM
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Realising the world is an unjust shithole is a bitter pill This is the biggest truth I have ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:10 AM
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I’ve known some shitcunt guys who were swarmed by women and it just reinforced the behaviour It just boggles the mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:09 AM
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Yes. What is out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:57 PM
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He's right the buddha path is the best way to be anyway His comment is deleted. What was it? What is the Buddha path?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:56 PM
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There's no guarantee. For anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:46 PM
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Unfortunately, that is easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:42 PM
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Can anybody in here say that they actually enjoy the life that they are living? Not including women but as far as their career and having a passion to do something. No, I am not. None of it. I have never in my life wanted to reset everything and start over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:06 AM
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I will not pursue a man. Your choice, but it will lower your number of dates. Men don’t value women who pursue them imo. That may be your opinion, but as a man I would love for women to approach me. It's never happened though. I give out plenty of signals. That's your opinion. How "subtle" are they? Its up to you to put in the effort to pursue. Why can't you/women pursue? I’ll listen to your complaints when you start carrying babies in your womb for 9 months and breastfeeding. You have to show m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:04 AM
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And that would be ...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:02 AM
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Why can't women approach? Why is all responsibility always put on men? I wish I knew. I have not seen a woman reply to this and it has been asked before. Feminism and desire for equality should have women approaching men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:32 AM
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I haven't used any dating apps since around 2015. Why is that? What happened around that time? Did they go down in quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:28 AM
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No, the rejection itself is just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:25 AM
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This is all very true. No one has a good answer on how to solve the learning part. Trial and error with lots of error has the highest chance of success, and that chance is already pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:22 AM
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This summarizes many men's experience. Mine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:20 AM
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Easy answer: you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:20 AM
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Absolutely. Once again, no one teaches this stuff but people expect men to just know what to do. The only way I know of is trial and error again, which will mean lots of error. And before the haters bring on "look it up online", 1) it's not that simple since there's bad info out there, 2) Internet wasn't around when some of us were at the learning age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:18 AM
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Right? That's been my biggest beef with "signals". Trial and LOTS of error. And the signals are different from one woman to the next, so what you know learn may not apply later. It's confusing as hell. I have NO idea how any one can pick up on them. I guess it's an art form that I will never be able to pick up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:14 AM
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Plenty of us Almost all men pretty much never get these signals. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:11 AM
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If a woman wants you to approach her she’ll make it obvious. Not true. Women give off subtle signals that are too subtle for the average man and then they wonder why the man to whom they sent the signals did not approach her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:10 AM
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Modern dating has shifted drastically, and it has no formula, no script, no rhythm or customs. That's what modern dating feels like. all risk, All the time, never reward. You nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:45 AM
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I do think there's also an issue with shy or bookish guys being afraid to approach. I think education in general causes people to be less able to be good with people. It makes sense that guys who are spending time hanging out with friends are going to do better socially than guys who spend their time looking at a book and doing homework. I also think there are guys who used to approach women but had such bad results that they found it pointless and emotionally draining, so they stopped doing it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:24 AM
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but only 1 gets positive feedback with any consistency, the rest will drop out. It’s a negative feedback loop Yep. Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:44 AM
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am happy to be approached by anyone who is respectful. It is a very brave thing to do, I respect that a lot. I commend you for this. I just wish this mentality was not the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:40 AM
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you guys have random chances to reproduce sprinkled along your life lines That's not the same as having a prime time. Men do - it's in our 30s. If we are still single, we have established our careers and lived enough experience to have some success in the dating world. Plus still healthy enough to have kids. While yes, men can reproduce for many years, it becomes more risky (higher chance of complications) or difficult (less chance of impregnation) to do so. I'm 49 and have been told that I miss…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:27 AM
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The knowledge that you don't just have to be the best option in the bar tonight, but better than any of the thousand guys she could pull up on tinder right now, is a unique burden that prior generations have not had to deal with. Competition is more fierce than ever. Plus you also have to go up against she would rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:19 AM
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why do that when you can go for women that are already interested in you though? The comment you're replying to is deleted so I do not know what it said. But to answer your question, most men cannot determine a woman's interest because women use very subtle signs and men on average cannot receive or interpret these signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:28 AM
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The top reasons for not approaching women were a fear of rejection and a fear of social consequences. These fears have always existed. They are timeless. As a man it is normal to feel them. And they will never go away, as they are embedded in our human DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:16 AM
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500 approaches is just the warm up Seriously? I'll quit now while I'm way behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:37 AM
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Or the signs are so subtle they cannot be received.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:37 AM
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What will it cost you? Is the trade off mental wellness? Yes, exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:06 AM
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Theres just something about getting rejected by a girl thats just super painful and i cant really explain with words why it just feels terrible. Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:02 AM
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Its such a humiliating feeling that stings in your chest Right? It's something women who don't approach men will never understand but still give us shit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:46 PM
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I hear women complain about that often. Of course I also hear women complain about being approached by guys they do not find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:12 PM
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It is expected and praised in the business world, so I do not think other areas would mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:49 AM
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Most heterosexual couples have sex at least once a week. Completely sexless marriages are rare. r/deadbedrooms would like to disagree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:45 AM
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Hetero man here. Can I reroll as a different hetero man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:34 AM
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You're doing pretty well in life, especially at 23. Keep up whatever you have been doing to do this well in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:20 AM
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I've learnt to become more confident and find self worth from within, not from the validation from others. Congrats! How did you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:11 AM
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The problem for many men is that trying to date takes a huge mental and emotional toll that they just would rather not deal with. A break would only suspend that temporarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:10 AM
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How did you meet? How did you become a couple without dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:07 AM
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but I'm adopting a more chill position of "if it does not happen, well it is what it is... if it happens, good ". I'm no longer sacrificing my mental health for people who don't care about me. That's the best way of handling it. Be absolute chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:02 AM
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It often takes years of frustration, hardship, humiliation and pain to gestate for that to register. However one incident is all it takes considering men are apparently typically required to claw tooth and nail to compete for women, while women do absolutely nothing and be entitled to everything a man does for them. Rejection is painful enough to never want to do after once, let alone facing it hundreds of times. This 100%. I had self-confidence one time but after a few rejections, it nosedived.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:37 PM
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What kind of therapy did he get?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:08 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:07 PM
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Is that "preselection" I keep hearing about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:56 PM
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All dating has risk. All dating implies risking failure. There are no cheat codes and foolproof solutions. This is the most difficult truth to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:53 PM
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failure to healthily process feelings of inadequacy How would one even do this "healthily"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:49 PM
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Unfortunately, this is probably the case. I'm a pushover too and people have taken advantage of that in my life, although moreso at work than relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:27 PM
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the more a woman takes care of her children, the less she is going to want to take care of her husband. Or the less she has available. At least, I hope that is what it is, since that's easier to fix than she wanting less to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:23 PM
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Yes, but the difficult part is finding them. That's what I find very difficult in dating: finding someone who likes me for what I bring and she brings what I like. I thought I had that with my most recent ex but we did not. If only it were easy to filter matches or dates on "Calls me handsome, compliments specific features, brings me treats when she's out shopping, gives me a back scratch, does the vast majority of the cleaning".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:20 PM
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efficient as my own suggestion of getting the gov't to do it for us HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! He thinks the government can do something efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:04 PM
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I’m pretty sure that’s how I got my last girlfriend. I have no idea what she was attracted to in me. Or why she stayed with me for 7 years. I definitely do not understand what attracts women. It is mostly what I am not or what I don’t do though. But that’s a large pool of attributes and behaviors.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 06:08 PM
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Yeah, this is the real truth. I hate that women aren’t attracted to me and it’s probably what I don’t do to improve myself that I really hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:39 AM
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The more we chase, the more what we chase runs from us. And the second we stop chasing/needing it, the universe finds a way to give it to us. Is this more of "you will find a relationship when you stop looking for one?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:24 AM
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The choice of mate will be hers. It is up to him to impress her. Wow, that hit a little too close to home.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:11 AM
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You never feel loneliness? Are you an introvert?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:03 AM
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You're talking to the wrong people. I think that's great of you and wish you success.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:58 AM
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<shudders>
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:57 AM
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can stop bothering with once they have a ring on their finger. You know what they say: which food kills a woman's sex drive? Wedding cake j/k
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:47 AM
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My late husband and I were friends for years, but I would have never dated him during that time. So how did you come to date and eventually marry? What changed from the friend time period to the romantic time period?
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:33 AM
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One thing that I really, really wish people would understand, especially the lonely guys out there, is that pursuing things for the sake of getting a partner is a hollow life. Not if getting a partner is your goal. What’s wrong with that? I’m nearing 50 and have spent most of my adult life lonely. It fucking sucks. I hate it with a passion. Isn’t the whole point of dating to find a partner? If you want to learn to paint, do it because you are genuinely interested in art and want to learn, not be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:42 AM
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Men and women are very different, and everybody is gaslighting themselves by denying that. True that. I hate hearing otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:23 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:22 AM
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Same. There’s too much conflicting advice to use any of it. So I bring my popcorn and watch the flames ensue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:11 AM
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Yeah but I’m way below average now. Plus I have difficulty summoning the will to do any of that. I don’t make good choices at the grocery store nor at the gym in my complex. I suffer under the “perfect is the enemy of good” phenomenon. I don’t start things if it can’t be perfect. At least now I know that’s why. I finally realized this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:54 AM
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Sorry. The sarcasm was not evident to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:27 AM
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Ahh, to be in my 20s in a college town.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:24 AM
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I assumed you put that in there since choice A was the rich guy. Isn't choice B not rich but not poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:38 PM
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We’re not the Borg Is the Borg a bisexual harem for the Queen? Don't they reproduce in some fashion, other than acquiring new drones when taking over other civilizations?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:34 PM
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You’ve never heard of cuffing season lol? No, and oddly enough, twice today on Reddit but never before today. Are we going into cuffing season, is that why it us showing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:24 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:11 PM
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How did you change from “no sex” to “constant sex”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:57 PM
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I'm fortunate enough to live in a place with lots of beautiful women Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:55 PM
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dating is supposed to be hard. Why do you think this? Why should it be hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:53 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:31 PM
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The mythical "effort" amounts to staying clean and not being misogynistic. That's it. That's rather low effort, very little to ask (just be sanitary and not want to rape or abuse women), don't you think? Whoa, that’s not even close to the minimum effort. I’m above this and I’m still single. So there’s more needed for dating than what you are stating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:26 PM
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Why do the women stay if their men start putting in less effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:24 PM
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What do you mean by an “in”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:54 PM
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How did you become visible, if you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:53 PM
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Right? If he’s that messed up that he can’t keep a woman for more than 3 months, how the heck is he getting them in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:52 PM
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If women started telling you your hot would you even believe it? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:43 PM
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I fear this is my future. I lucked out getting with my ex but that’s over. I don’t think I can repeat that success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:59 AM
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10 months? My memory is hazy on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:20 PM
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I see no jokes in these videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:16 AM
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That does not automatically make someone high demand. I could work out regularly and not change that. I know because I used to work out weekly and nothing changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:11 AM
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I thought it was Made of Millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:09 AM
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Amazing Vod?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:06 AM
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It’s very easy to be a man in high demand lol. Uh, no it's not. It is very difficult if not impossible. Unless you're very rich and/or Hollywood handsome. For example, I know and accept I will never be a man in high demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:59 AM
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I like her response: https://www.tiktok.com/@madeofmillions/video/7245686302660676910
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:10 AM
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Where do you see the joking? I missed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:29 AM
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I do not find the concept of women-only transport offensive. I believe they need this due to propensity of violence to them, especially in countries like Japan which is notorious for groping incidents on trains. We hear stories of something bad happening to women on college campuses at night; I have rarely ever heard the same for men (although that is not 0). I'm an uncle so I want that protection for my nieces. I'd rather the world not have this problem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:31 AM
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How does he own it? And that’s really attractive? Are you amongst the minority about this, based on the people in your social circles? I’ve never heard anyone spin that in a positive way so I’m curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:07 PM
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Huh? How does looking scary help in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:51 PM
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Kind of like “mansplain”. It’s now used as a general derogatory word used by women against men. Source: it’s been used against me when I answered a question asked to me. I was giving the requested info so how is that mansplaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:07 PM
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I read your other responses and you’re one in a million. Too bad for me you’re taken. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:55 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:29 PM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 01:32 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 01:24 AM
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this is what I mean I don’t really view it as I wasn’t good enough or worth their time. That’s not really what people are thinking when they reject you. “We weren’t compatible” or “i wasn’t their type” are much less self-flagellating ways of looking at it. You’ll never be everybody’s cup of tea but that doesn’t mean you’re not “good enough” Another thing about this. How does the woman know they are not compatible or not their type, if they don’t know each other? That’s what dating is supposed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:08 PM
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One rejection doesn’t cause spiraling. Rejection after rejection after rejection does. It becomes a negative feedback loop. It’s why I stopped asking women out. The negative streak just became too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:53 PM
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That doesn’t explain couples who are mismatched. I’ve seen lots of couples where the man is less attractive than the woman. It explains that women can be attracted to (or at least willing to be with) men who are less attractive. But it doesn’t explain why they do are how men pull this off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:49 PM
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I have to agree with u/maractop. This is my experience too. Rejection negatively affects my self-esteem. I wish it didn’t. I have taken rejection in any form (not just rejection by women for possible dating) personally. It sounds like some men experience this and some don’t. I wish I knew how those men handled rejection well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:18 PM
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That’s been my experience as well. My ex used to love seeing me in long sleeve dress shirts. This seems to be common amongst women. Similar how many women are attracted to men in uniform. Maybe the dress clothes mimic uniforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:10 PM
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Could it be because they focused more on personality than looks? Or is it they already had the mentality that they should focus on personality over looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:08 PM
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I think some men want to know that difference. Typically No one tells them (some are learning it in this post) so they just assume it’s the same for them. Assuming other people use the same methodology as you do is standard human behavior. I saw this with my ex girlfriend during the relationship. Not on attraction but on other things. For example, she thought my distant relationship with my brother is weird because it was different than the closer relationship she has with her sister. She couldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:07 PM
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Wow. My ex liked my deep and gravely voice but I didn’t know how to maximize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:57 PM
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Which podcast? Which episode?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:50 PM
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Man oh man are relationships tough. Truer words have never been spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:17 AM
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What picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:12 PM
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Your English seems really good to me. Out of curiosity, where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:51 PM
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But as long as they are wearing clothes, correct? A clown suit would be funny, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:57 AM
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Who's wearing the apron?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 06:56 AM
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I asked why would men get married to women and commit to them just to cheat and hurt them?? Men don't get married intending to cheat. Shit happens. I am not condoning it all (I am against cheating), just providing an answer to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:46 AM
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That’s true. That’s probably the biggest truth I have discovered this year is that everyone’s different and general advice may not apply. It doesn’t help though since now I know advice may not apply. As if dating wasn’t difficult already, let’s raise the difficulty rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:11 AM
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Times have changed. Some things are better, some are worse. Once again the Rules of Dating have changed and you have to adapt. Or leave. I’m leaning towards leaving at this point. It’s too mentally and emotionally exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:57 AM
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but don't shit on them for shooting their shot especially since women are constantly telling men they need to shoot their shots. Right? How are men supposed to navigate the dating world with this hanging over their heads? What this is really about is that women think they should never ever have to deal with unattractive men, ever; that unattractive men should not exist; and that unattractive men need to go away and die in a fire. This is both scary and disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:16 PM
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Does she know what your approach is? If so, what is her assessment on it? I see this working but it also seems disingenuous to me. I’m curious what her (as a professional) take on this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:37 PM
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but too many times guys expect women to appreciate in men the exact same things men do Holy shit, this is an epiphany. This explains a lot. I guess I never had a lady friend ever explain what women (in general) look for in a guy to date. Why am I just now coming across this truth this late in life? I’m 48.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:36 PM
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Approaching is inherently humilliating. Yes. Anxiety, fear of rejection, fear of being labeled a creep for no other reason than you’re male, all of that. Herero women have no concept of this because they won’t approach men; they wait to be approached. Of course they think it’s no big deal to approach because they are on the receiving end and just have to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:29 AM
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We get the film Idiocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:24 AM
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Can you talk more about this recent issue you had? What happened? How did it end?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:01 AM
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Where is the optimal balance? An issue like this came up in my last relationship. I’d do things my ex liked to do because she wanted to do them. I lied when she asked if I was having a good time and I’d say yes. Because telling the truth would have led to her being sad even though she would have been sad had I not done the activity in the first place. So I figured despite causing me great discomfort, agreeing and going on her activity was the “lesser of two evils”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:29 AM
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I think Alicia McCarvell would disagree: link
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:09 AM
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I think Alicia McCarvell would disagree: link
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:09 AM
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I think Alicia McCarvell would disagree: link
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:09 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:01 PM
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I like your flair. How did you meet her? What do you guys nerd out on?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:29 PM
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I know it's just anecdotal, but every lasting relationship I know of personally started out with platonic friends who initially weren't interested in each other (at least the women weren't) slowly warming up to the guy as they hung out. This is how I met my ex. And probably how I will meet my next girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:28 PM
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Can I just add that men are told not to put anything in their profiles that turn women off. Dorky things like video games, anime, keeping exotic pets or ant farms etc. That is pretty much universal advice for men on dating apps. While I think adding that info will lead to fewer swipes, wouldn’t it lead to better matches since only someone who shared your listed ideas would swipe right on you? I know a couple that met online (and now married) because the husband put the name of a game he played a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:26 PM
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it's probably the latter. You need both sides before making this conclusion. Maybe it’s miscommunication; they each think the other doesn’t want sex. My ex and I had miscommunication about sex and we did t communicate effectively to resolve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:25 PM
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Which experts? I’ve seen the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:09 PM
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It’s because they’re addicts. It’s like any other addiction at that point. It needs to be addressed as such if it’s going to be solved. Otherwise you’re fighting a losing battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:08 PM
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I’ve read those subs. It’s only the woman’s POV and never includes the man’s. So we hear only her side. I know from experience that each of them can have different perspectives on this and if they don’t communicate correctly/effectively, you get this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:03 PM
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It should fill the gap and not replace sex itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:50 PM
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Not all. Go read r/deadbedrooms to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:50 PM
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They don’t expect less sex, despite other married men telling them this. It’s born from years of unfulfillment from their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:49 PM
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Ahhh yes, incel is when someone believes physical attractiveness influences dating. I called you out because you ignored ops post just to bring up looks Wait, so physical attractiveness doesn’t influence dating? That’s news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:55 AM
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I think it definitely should be brought back. Only one of my friends over the past 30 years has set me up on a blind date. I don’t k ow if that speaks poorly of them or of me (that I’m not worth setting up). Although it has been said by some female friends over the years that they don’t have many female friends themselves. Although one friend’s wife setup her boss and our friend and they’re married 20ish years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:18 AM
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What is this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:55 AM
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The more I do it, the more I realize men were taught these basic, rundamentary skillsets from toddlerhood and yet somehow still use ignorance as an excuse. Uh, sorry, but I was not taught how to approach women for dating back in toddlerhood. I have NO idea why you bring this up as it is not relevant to this post. Frankly, it is just weird. I have social anxiety (aka shyness). I do not like approaching strangers, men OR women. It becomes even more anxious when it is a woman I am attracted to and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:52 AM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:09 AM
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But then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:16 AM
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There’s nothing basic about this. Men aren’t taught this skill by anyone (I’m not sure it is even teachable) and can only learn through experience. So they have to approach over and over to learn. Every woman is different too which means one approach can work on a woman but not on another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:55 PM
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Knowing whether a woman wants you tk approach her or not is next to impossible unless you’ve done it many times. I don’t know why women think they make very clear signals of interest. So many guys mention how it is ambiguous and hard to discern. Right? This is what I find so frustrating about dating. After YEARS of hearing this, women still don’t send clear signals. Why? I’m seriously asking women: why don’t you send clear signals when you know men can’t/don’t pick up on them? Then complain abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:52 PM
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How do you get to 20% then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:38 PM
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There’s CBT mentioned again. I have got to get into that. Thank you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:40 AM
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My ex did that often. She would want me to pick the restaurant for dinner because she didn’t k on what she wanted but then shot down my choices. But then she wouldn’t take over the decision-making. So she only offered “no” but not “yes”. Ugh, it was frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:33 AM
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? What are you looking at? I’m not seeing it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/23 08:35 PM
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“Multi level marketing”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:50 PM
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If your husband is treating you right, he’s not a “bad boy”. “Bad boys” are defined by their poor treatment of women and cockiness that is masqueraded as assertiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:52 PM
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Changing the entirety of who you are as an attempt to impress a women has always rubbed me the wrong way. And it’s to be what they think is fun and exciting not what you actually enjoy. Most guys are already doing what they feel is fun and exciting. This also goes against all of the advice out there: don’t change who you are just to get somebody. Especially if there’s a good chance they won’t stick around. Because most relationships end.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:44 PM
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The reason we ended up with this is: As we grow up as boys our moms wants us to be nice and easy to handle. Those of us who are naturally agreeable overdo it and become doormats. Guys then wonder why girls don’t like them. It’s not because they are not nice - which they mostly are - it’s because they are doormats. They then start to overcompensate in anger. The solution is to teach these timid boys to be assertive, capable, speak their minds and go for what they want. This is so true. It’s kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:31 PM
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This is a pretty good response. Especially this:. create a relationship with a flawed human as a flawed human." Also, where does one start with this: The solution isn't to stick your head in the sand. It's to educate yourself on human sexual selection Searching online brings too many non-applicable results, like findings needle in a haystack that size of the a mountain. Do you recommend a specific place at which to start? Thank you ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:12 PM
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“Disagreeableness”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:01 PM
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guys just don't understand women This is the most truthful thing I have ever read on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:42 AM
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I’ve heard this many times but always from unavailable women. Available women have never said this to me. That would mean putting their money where their mouth is and they don’t seem to want to do that. This is really a negative thing masquerading as a backhanded compliment. It means you’re not worth dating but to someone else you might be. What it really means is “you’d make a good husband someday to someone else but not me”. Keyword is “someday” which means “not right now” I.e. “not me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:38 AM
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Shy men are punished because of the societal expectation that they have to approach women. Women’s till want men to approach even in this modern-day feminism age. Some women will approach men first but they are a small minority. Telling shy people to just be more social is like telling a smoker to just smoke less. It’s much more difficult than you make it out to be. You’re probably not shy and don’t understand the difficulty. Otherwise you would understand our pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:53 AM
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Because women are non-sensual when it comes to dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:41 AM
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Maybe not but physical touch with women brings me happiness. Why should that be denied?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:39 AM
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Once a guy is not a virgin and knows that he can attract a woman, he knows that he can attract more at any time. This doesn’t work for me. How does he know this? He k owe he attracted one, but does not guarantee more. It seems a bit of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:24 PM
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The question is how to acquire it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:18 PM
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That’s pretty much the definition of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:17 PM
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sure but their are trade-offs as well, losing out on pair bonding is real. This is what I want. What matters in dating is being able to control your destiny, that's what winning and losing is. Chad controls his destiny. Men who look like me do not. I could be the best man I could be, hell the best man to live, and still end up alone. That's what losing is. Me too. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:15 PM
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I’m telling ya attractive and average dudes who want to settle down, are highly sought after, especially after 25 I guess I’m below average / unattractive since I am not highly sought after. Which sucks big time. I’ve always wanted to settle down and have a family but since I’m approaching 50, my chances are dwindling every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:01 PM
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I’m telling ya attractive and average dudes who want to settle down, are highly sought after, especially after 25 I guess I’m below average / unattractive since I am not highly sought after. Which sucks big time. I’ve always wanted to settle down and have a family but since I’m approaching 50, my chances are dwindling every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:01 PM
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It is not false. I have these values and don’t get picked by woman. My last ex dumped me because we have different wants for our future. Women pick men because of other attributes. I am not sure what they are but it is not these 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:54 PM
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The unattractive ones will always have some difficulty but that’s based off physical attraction. Plus being unattractive just means u probably won’t be getting a ton of girls doesn’t affect much else besides that. Yeah but that’s almost everything right there. If you’re not getting as manly girls as the attractive men, then the game is already rigged against you. It makes it more difficult to find the right woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:50 PM
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If the man is shy/lacking in social skills he might be there forever lol. I could not agree more. Women don’t like shy men nor that shy men won’t approach them. Our society essentially punished shy men for their personality and we are told to “be more social and less shy” like we are the problem. I hate this idea with a passion. Source: I am a shy man with little dating experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:42 PM
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I want to a university with low percentage of female students (tech school). So no. It was not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:22 PM
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When I was graduating high school, a male colleague told me that you will meet the most number of women when in high school. I questioned the timing of this since it literally came days after my high school graduation. He was absolutely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:31 PM
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So it’s a vicious circle that you can’t get out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:29 PM
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It takes more than just “going outside“. That’s just the first step and the easiest one. The actual socialization is difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:57 AM
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Wow, that explains a lot about me. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:50 AM
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Body weight would be nice since I no longer have a gym membership. I don’t have a partner for spotting free weights that my apartment fitness room has available. I do need the compound exercises that covers all bases as you said. Yoga would be nice but that will most likely mean a meme warship somewhere and I don’t have money in my budget for that. I have stairs, treadmill, and outside for walk I get that I just need to force myself to use. My depression is holding me down. As always in my life,…
/r/MenSupportMen24/04/23 05:47 PM
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I didn’t mean both, I meant address your question to either one and answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:55 AM
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I disagree. Men as a whole don’t have teachers on the nuances of romantic relationships. So when you tell a man to have humor, don’t be surprised that he takes it too far when no one says “stop”. He has no basis of comparison and if no one tells him it’s too far , he won’t know when to stop. I absolutely hate the advice that assumes men should know these things. If they did, we wouldn’t have these problems. No one seems willing to teach/educate/lead these men but instead are quick to punish/ridi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:54 AM
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Very.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:36 PM
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Did you know that all of those are skills you can learn? Besides trial and error, how does one learn this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:31 PM
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What if you’re not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:31 PM
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My ex when she dumped me wanted me to get on OLD. I think she thinks it’s like to was years ago for her. Of course, being a woman (and quite beautiful), she’d have better chances than I ever would.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:24 PM
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FML.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:22 PM
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This is what I’ve been told and may be my best chance. It worked for my last LTR. I’m too shy otherwise. I cannot cold approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:21 PM
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Either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:19 PM
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Well, the problem there is that men are told that women like humor and so they work on that. No one tells men when to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:18 PM
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Start regular exercise.
/r/MenSupportMen22/04/23 09:41 PM
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Because not everyone knows what they’re doing, was never taught how to date, never practiced dating while growing up. We want to do it right without hurting ourselves or others and want to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:32 AM
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Yes, there is more than one cause of my unhappiness. Being lonely is a major one. I had a LTR girlfriend. She broke up when she determined we want different futures and needed to separate to go find better partners. It still stung. So I was less unhappy for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:45 AM
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“Ducks”? I couldn’t find this slang term. Is it women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/23 03:59 AM
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I feel like politicians will keep kicking the can down the road for some future politicians problem. That’s their MO for everything. If they can prevent putting themselves in a decision that they can’t spin later when needed, they prefer to look like they’re writing rather than actually work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/23 03:53 AM
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But what if a lack of a woman is a source of unhappiness? Then wouldn’t a woman bring you happiness by decreasing your unhappiness? That seems like a “yes” to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:28 PM
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No, unfortunately it is not going well. The breakup was 4 months ago and I’m still grieving/recovering. As you can tell, it was my first LTR thus my first breakup. I have no idea how to navigate this. People my age should be better experienced and prepared for this but I am not. My ex wanted to stay friends but I had to so “no”temporarily because of the emotional pain. I was surprised that she could do that but then realized she had decided a few months to breakup and had already grieved, plus s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:57 PM
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48M 1 LTR for 7.5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:16 PM
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Of course women say no; we own all of the responsibility of the mating decision. Our imperative is to filter, vet and deny so that only the best options get through to us. We bear all of the responsibility and all of our power is in the word “no”. How do you determine that when all you know about a man approaching you is what the man looks like (his physical attractiveness), whether he is shy or not, his approach (does he use a cheesy line?) and MAYBE his confidence level. All the other importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:25 AM
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Neither. I just want to be less depressed. I couldn’t care less about my adversaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:51 AM
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I have been contemplating one or the other. I hear they work well for depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:50 AM
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By what definition is she obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:35 PM
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Is that better than edibles?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 01:36 PM
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No, I assumed the comment meant that they wanted the woman to protect and provide for them. Every man I know and in a relationship also works and provides for the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:21 PM
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Men's requirements have changed. Now women are expected to protect and provide on top How so? I don’t know a single guy who looked for a woman to provide this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:40 PM
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What a lie that was, right? Not just for relationships but for life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:29 PM
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Unfortunately for men, these are not sustainable strategies. Whether they want it that way or not, women are now on an equal playing field. The men who can accept this will find partners and raise children. Those who cannot adjust will simply die off. It’s time for men to face reality and accept women as equals, instead of fighting to retain male privilege. I think it will take a whole lot more than simply “men accepting this will find partners and raise children”. This acceptance is just the ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:28 PM
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And then they say “no”. It’s better if the woman approaches since that way, the man will know that she’s interested. Despite the conventional talk that women send signals, most men cant pick up on those signals, so they approach the wrong girl. Having the woman approach the man takes the guesswork out and means there’s most likely to be a connection rather than a blowoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:57 PM
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The best version of myself according to what I value would die a virgin. "Improving" myself in a way that meaningfully increases my chances with women does mean not being myself. The people who often give the advice “be the best version of you” always forget this part. They don’t state the second half of the above which is to be whatever everyone else wants or what society expects.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:49 PM
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Too much error will demotivate and reevaluate fairness and prospects, often concluding futility when stress from error becomes too much. This is my life. Too many rejections just caused demotivation. Which leads to loneliness and depression. Sigh. I’m not sure how to get out of it or if it can be reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:46 PM
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Is this why men like to be called “daddy” by their wife/girlfriend/SO?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:56 PM
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Not all women do this. Those are the ones who need to show more enthusiasm. You’re already doing it correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:44 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:18 PM
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Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:38 PM
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Absolutely!
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/23 02:11 AM
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You are ascribing some magical pussy powers to them that don't exist. I laughed. It's not that you lack power in dating, it's that you give women so much power in your own head. Any advice on how to get over this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:52 PM
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Will you elaborate? What is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:19 PM
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You can start confident without having succeeded yet. Your parents can instill you with a deep rooted belief in your abilities, even if you have never used them. How does this happen? I ask as an uncle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:37 PM
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What specifically do women respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:38 AM
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Also considering our level of attraction to an individual is not dependent on appearance. Then what is it dependent on?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:47 AM
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Agreed. We definitely need more tools. No one has good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 07:06 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:59 PM
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It’s comforting to find someone else agrees. I always hated the advice that I don’t need a significant other in life. BS! I need that human connection, even more so working from home full time. I am so f@cling lonely since my break up, the same amount of loneliness (actually more with working from home) that I had before my long-term relationship. I need that human connection. Since the break up, I’ve been spending more time with my friends which helps a little but I still go home to an empty ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:36 PM
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This gives me hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:52 PM
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Which country? I’ve often thought of doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:13 AM
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Did you marry while you were an expat? If so, was it too a local woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:17 AM
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Agreed. I’m on Reddit to ask questions about women so I can learn more on the dating and relationship areas. I’m less concerned generally with men, but I am concerned about my own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:33 PM
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I don’t think that’s real either. I think it’s a made-up concept for others to disparage the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:27 PM
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I don’t think this is a real thing. I’ve never heard of it from any guy friends nor did I go through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:24 AM
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I’m a guy. I’ve never heard of this. What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:10 PM
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Why don't they tell them to go and ask the girl they have a crush on our and kiss her The advice I needed 35 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:34 PM
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When you accept that those closest to you, family, friends, teachers, are actually not interested in raising your self esteem and confidence, you will sleep better and feel better. That’s depressing. Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:55 PM
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I still have the second most important physical thing for women (height). What’s the first most important physical attribute for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:50 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:30 AM
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I specifically mean when I approach a woman I am interested in dating. Approaching her just for friendship sends the wrong signals. Approaching women in general for friendship makes sense. I have women friends. Here on Reddit, I was once accused of not having female family members because of this very topic. I have lots of female family members, and I enjoy talking with them. Over the years at extended family gatherings, I tend to talk to my aunts more than my uncles (I think my aunts have alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:43 PM
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Thanks, I’ll check him out. I’m going to need it as my girlfriend just broke up with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:56 AM
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just treat us like normal people, drop the gender performance it doesn’t help you! Can you elaborate/explain this in more detail? I hear it a lot but not why I should do it. How will I get an interested woman if I only treat her as a friend instead of someone I’d like to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 07:54 PM
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You sound truly together and very mature. As long as you are leaving some money for each of you, I think you’re golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:06 PM
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Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:46 PM
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Ahh, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 06:46 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:55 AM
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Did we ever get a conclusion to that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:34 AM
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Do you mind elaborating more on “magic”? My dating experience is very small so I am not understanding it. Or I just know it by a different term. I have a longtime girlfriend so I must be doing something correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:52 AM
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I understand the pedestal issue in general, but how is OP putting women on a pedestal? It seems he is specifically not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:55 PM
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My girlfriend makes alot more than me and it matters nothing to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:27 AM
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Never asked. Never turned her down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:13 AM
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Wow.
/r/MenSupportMen20/10/22 02:15 AM
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Fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:50 AM
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Why is the friend bring a feminist pertinent to this post? I’m a bit lost. Is the post about the procedures? Family issues? The friend? Feminism?
/r/MenSupportMen08/10/22 11:03 PM
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How does attraction work for women? If it matters, heterosexual women (as I’m a heterosexual man).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:38 PM
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