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This is great advice. So if you say the awkwardness is all in my head then what scared her away?
/r/seduction27/03/12 06:06 PM
1

Thanks. Which ones do you like then?
/r/seduction27/03/12 12:22 AM
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Ok, let's say I don't question very detail, I don't get too inside my head... then my problem is the Act part. WTF do I do? Set out what I intend to do - how?? I have no idea, and even if I did, I'd do it all sloppily and short of breath and stutter when I do it. I had a guy push me up to a girl in a bar once when I told him I thought she was cute and really wanted to talk to her. He pushed me right up to her to get in her way and I had to say something. All this shitty stuff came out of my mout…
/r/seduction23/03/12 11:20 PM
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I've been doing it without one for the past three women. I just don't know
/r/seduction05/03/12 02:47 AM
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What if the friend says "no you can't" or simply just grabs her away? Or more specific scenario, these two girls are leaving a bar and then walking up the street to catch a cab. You reach them just as one slows down and they're walking up to it. What do you do, if anything?
/r/seduction29/02/12 04:26 AM
1

Would you have F'ed her without one (condom I mean)?
/r/seduction24/02/12 05:21 PM
1

You're absolutely right but I hate cooking. I just don't enjoy it at all.
/r/seduction24/02/12 05:19 PM
1

I see, makes sense.. but the only way I'd see her is while he's there so it's not that I could ever get her alone by herself, I think. Not sure how I'd swing that..
/r/seduction23/02/12 11:43 PM
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You think so? Because if I start high, is it possible it might associate that high age with my real age, linking the two? Like I'll say I'm 50 and then go down to 31, but in his mind then he links 50 with 31. Also, after he was surprised by the age thing, he acted a bit differently. Still friendly though kind of hesitant. And when we were all leaving, he said something about me coming back and visiting again for sure, but then said something like "Yea, 30 year old man" kind of loudly and everyon…
/r/seduction22/02/12 07:05 PM
9

Got asked my age by the dad while his daughter was there. She's 18. I think he was cool with me getting to know her. Problem is he probably thought I was in my mid 20s but I'm 31. He eventually asked and I said to guess and he said 25. I pointed up as in to guess higher and he said 26, 27.. And then with a look of surprise, said 30. And I just nodded, by this time understanding fully that this was becoming negative. In retrospect I should have just said yes I was 25... But I actually like the gu…
/r/seduction19/02/12 08:04 PM
1

So ignore what she thinks of you and do what you want to do regardless of her. What if what I want is to want her in order to have sex? I'm going to act like I want it then, but that isn't recommended? And shouldn't I use all available information to form an opinion or just never think of her and her needs or thinking? You say if I think that when I'm talking to a woman that if I think that then it will change my behavior, or only if I worry what she thinks of me instead of determining if she me…
/r/seduction05/02/12 10:01 PM
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Read the postmasculine post. This is all very confusing to me. Don't be needy by putting your needs above hers but don't put them above hers while she's there and giving you the info you need to do so because that's needy and you don't need her approval for anything but you're the one approaching her to want something from her and want her number, sex, etc which can be needy but not necessarily needy so buy my book, "Rampart," and you'll know exactly what I mean.
/r/seduction05/02/12 07:39 PM
1

To compare your two extremes you say, what would you rather be: douchebag bully or boring as shit nice?
/r/seduction05/02/12 05:50 PM
1

I can't decide. It's compelling on paper but in practice.. the relationship typically seems to only last so long.
/r/seduction03/02/12 03:58 AM
1

I think I heard one of you guys saying that if the girl doesn't respond through calls or texts (after getting her number), just keep going until she tells you to fuck off. Is this right? Also, how would you pick up a girl who's on the phone the entire time? Any way to do it?
/r/seduction02/02/12 08:35 PM
1

What do you each of you do for a living? Do you devote all your free time outside of your day jobs doing this? Is this making you guys any actual money at all? If yes, how so? If no, do you plan to and how?
/r/seduction02/02/12 08:34 PM
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Yes and I do say I do not advocate this behavior. However, thomasdavis, who replied to me, says he does the same thing and actually does advocate this behavior. He might be kidding but I seem to get that he isn't. Anyway, in the heat of the moment, it's hard for me to think that it's life threatening. I just think how much I want to fuck her and it's done. It feels so good.. how do you stop yourself? Also, what if I insert without condom and thrust a few times (let's say 8-10 at most) and then p…
/r/seduction30/01/12 08:15 PM
2

I got to be Brad fucking Pitt? Fuck. Even Brad Pitt isn't Brad Pitt in Moneyball. Or is he? He probably is.
/r/seduction27/01/12 09:46 PM
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So he does this cube thing for every woman he dates?
/r/seduction27/01/12 09:24 PM
1

There was one time where this girl stopped me just as my tip was about to enter and she said, "Whoa I don't do raw dog." I almost laughed because it sounded ridiculous to say.
/r/seduction27/01/12 06:12 PM
1

What website? And what part of Australia?
/r/seduction26/01/12 11:53 PM
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This is going to be very bad of me to say and I realize it.. but I'm in the US and I have fucked girls without a condom pretty often. I just go for it and they don't say a word a lot of the time. There have been times where they do of course and times where I will initiate putting it on myself. But there are also times where I just do it, sometimes without thinking. So I do pull out, but I also sometimes ask if the girl is on birth control while I'm fucking her.. and she says she is.. so I cum i…
/r/seduction26/01/12 08:06 PM
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No, not all. There are more common Asian hairstyles. And by the way, being the most common looking asian guy around is a bad thing, in my opinion.
/r/seduction26/01/12 07:56 PM
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What the fuck is this shit? Fuck this video and fuck this guy. This is just a run-of-the-mill YouTube blogger attempting to be funny, don't listen to anything he says. If you really want worthwhile advice, you'd have to get it from someone who can actually see your face and your hair. Short of posting it here, which you said you don't want to do, there's no way to recommend anything. I can only tell you if that you're leaning towards the asian 'fauxhawk', you'd be one of the most common looking …
/r/seduction26/01/12 06:48 PM
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Nice. I want to end in a tone like that as well, playful with incentive but can't come up with anything. I have thought of the beginning parts though. The phone tag thing might come off lame in my situation. Update: Ok, left the voicemail just now. If no response, do I make another attempt for call/text and in how many days? Or just move on? Sigh.. sucks that I would have to move on, she's just my type
/r/seduction26/01/12 01:45 AM
1

Do you not want to settle down?
/r/seduction20/01/12 11:04 PM
1

But they approach you and ask that?
/r/seduction20/01/12 07:42 PM
2

Girls actually literally ask for the one in your mouth?
/r/seduction19/01/12 11:18 PM
3

How did you find out she has HPV?
/r/seduction19/01/12 06:36 PM
2

Exactly. I get the idea about death being a deadline but it's still nebulous and random and not right in front of you or literal in some way. It's sad but true. Even asking myself something like what I want to be doing in 5 years, it's still 5 years away..
/r/seduction17/01/12 11:19 PM
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I DO THIS TOO. Good god, do I do this. Your first paragraph described my entire college career. I hate that I do this. I recognized it yet I kept doing it. Hell, I still do this at my job now. Consequently or not, I have seriously high levels of social anxiety.
/r/seduction17/01/12 11:16 PM
-1

He did fear his wife
/r/seduction17/01/12 10:29 PM
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Solution: Disguise as a woman and then reveal yourself later that night.
/r/seduction17/01/12 07:21 PM
1

Can you describe how you would be awesome? But yea, I'm not used to being optimistic and it does bring me down when I go out (or in).
/r/seduction13/01/12 02:15 AM
1

I thought that might be what he means too but if you really believe in that then it's not bullshit. But yea, if he actually didn't and only said that to make himself look good then that's definitely a load of shit.
/r/seduction12/01/12 11:25 PM
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Curious.. why is that a load of shit?
/r/seduction12/01/12 07:35 PM
1

I identify with your second paragraph. I'm too afraid of approaching, mostly because I have nothing to say. I come up with the most dry and boring things to say. The same old crap that no one cares about and is so plain and uninteresting. And then I come up with something that might have worked within just a few minutes of the encounter and I kick myself for not saying it the first time. But it's too late. And other encounters aren't exactly the same so I can't really use it again, maybe but not…
/r/seduction12/01/12 06:50 PM
1

Unfortunately, if I were that group of people, I'd consider you an outcast. You're not part of our group and you came by yourself, it would be considered weird. We'd probably interact with you in line just because you're new and it's interesting when waiting in line is boring. But inside, we may not acknowledge you or maybe just barely. You'd have to really make an impression, and a good one.
/r/seduction12/01/12 06:47 PM
2

Why don't you try pick up on the street?
/r/seduction12/01/12 02:19 AM
1

I remember when I first started approaching how surprised I was to discover that 2-sets often open more smoothly than a girl who's alone. Wait... it is? I mean your reasons you list make sense. But what do you open with? How do you open (ie. what do you say)? And then what do you say/do to continue the convo and keep it going (ie. what do you keep saying, what's the next line[s])? By the way, how old are you and where are you located (city, state)? Just wondering about the logistics of this
/r/seduction12/01/12 01:42 AM
3

Notice also how the 'asshole' guy is drawn in a much more stereotypically handsome way than 'nice' guy. Hm.
/r/seduction12/01/12 12:18 AM
1

I desperately want to know this as well. I know this is an old post but please answer, Tofu! :)
/r/seduction08/01/12 07:20 PM
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what are you talking about?
/r/seduction07/01/12 05:54 PM
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But they wash them afterwards, pretty thoroughly I would think..
/r/seduction06/01/12 05:52 PM
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Where, why, what, and how?
/r/seduction06/01/12 05:51 PM
2

I'm not sure I get that though.. less private space at home means doing more private activities in public, just because there is more physical space?
/r/seduction05/01/12 05:29 PM
2

"I've got friends who like this because there is more privacy and you can make some homemade porn easier." Wasn't sure if I was supposed to take this to mean recording the experience without consent..?
/r/seduction05/01/12 05:26 PM
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Not sure I get it..
/r/seduction05/01/12 03:55 AM
1

Why does that add intrigue?
/r/seduction05/01/12 12:32 AM
1

WTF. Why would you delete? You were getting upvotes and everything. The original commenter in this thread deleted his comment and the second guy responded with something disputing it and sounded coherent. Asked who/what the orig comment was and now even the second guy deleted. Again, his comment was sane so no idea why he decided to delete.
/r/seduction04/01/12 05:37 PM
1

what did he say and what was the username?
/r/seduction03/01/12 04:06 PM
2

Sucks man, what can you do?
/r/seduction03/01/12 03:56 PM
2

Just curious, what ages are the women you're with after you learned more of game (I understood this happened from 34 to 40?) and average age as well. Thanks
/r/seduction03/01/12 03:49 PM
2

Make out with who?
/r/seduction03/01/12 03:44 PM
1

No, me!
/r/seduction03/01/12 07:28 AM
1

Rapey? Being more sexually dominant is not a call to be rapey.
/r/seduction25/12/11 04:27 AM
1

You were in Switzerland? What race are you?
/r/seduction25/12/11 04:25 AM
1

This is exactly what I thought would happen. I guess it's true.
/r/seduction22/12/11 05:34 PM
9

Hmm I like the suggestion of writing it down.. I'll think of it in my head and swear I'll do it next time but I lose it. It's not that I'll bring the paper with me but when writing it down, it places more focus and thought on it. Although this leaves behind evidence that I'm a loser...
/r/seduction22/12/11 04:01 PM
1

What makes you in the same place I am?
/r/seduction22/12/11 03:46 PM
1

I see what you're getting at and I get it.. just learn more about the stuff I already do or surround myself with and study it up so that I gain knowledge and/or skills in it. You make an excellent point and I have been trying to a certain degree.... but then I lose it. The key thing here, I think, is motivation, initiative, drive, etc., even work ethic. It just doesn't keep up. I bought books to read and learn from for a side project I really want to do but I lose interest fast. I haven't read e…
/r/seduction22/12/11 03:38 PM
1

wooooosh
/r/seduction22/12/11 03:24 PM
1

I dunno.. could happen. I'd say that someone would usually just ignore the laughing person entirely like they were a lunatic and be off to their seat. But perhaps this person just happened to be especially insecure.
/r/seduction21/12/11 04:58 PM
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You don't think guys masturbated daily before porn? Besides, you seem to define 'porn' only as it exists as internet videos. I can think of erotic situations in my head to get me off from just seeing a woman on the street. However, my own personal shame and anxiety keep me from actually approaching. Porn does not make me not want a real live woman. For some, I think releasing allows you to feel more relaxed rather than ansty and on-edge, which does not help in approaching women.
/r/seduction21/12/11 04:33 PM
2

Find people... how? That isn't as easy as it sounds. Most people you meet, if you can meet people, flake on you. I was lucky enough to develop a social circle and then I fucking pissed it all away. I fucked up and now I'm alone. What I wrote above is seemingly now what I enjoy. Because anything more is either too much work or out of reach. I don't like the state I'm in but again, to get out isn't just as easy as going to the store and buying it. Even saying 'it takes work' is a bit disingenuous …
/r/seduction21/12/11 03:38 AM
2

What do I spend all my time doing? I go to work and procrastinate all day browsing Reddit and other blogs. I continue into the evening even when people have left to go home. I might go to the gym, I might not. Then I go home, watch videos for too long that it eats into my sleep time and wake up groggy or oversleep. Then the cycle continues. Weekends, I just sleep for as long as I can and then get up and watch more videos, go on Reddit. Then order delivery, watch videos while I eat. Browse more R…
/r/seduction21/12/11 01:55 AM
2

How do you keep the doubt and insecurity and shame from creeping in? You're pretty comfortable with yourself and all but I've got no value. What do you do when you have no value? You can't possibly be proud that you don't have any skills or have less knowledge of things to any respectable degree. And it takes significant time and energy, a mountain to climb, in order to get to a decent level where you're not completely amateur where people are at least impressed to a certain degree to see that v…
/r/seduction21/12/11 12:45 AM
2

ge99 0 points 45 minutes ago Dick move? How so? Women want sex just as much as you do. Very western and ancient mindset to view women as not being sexual liberated and only interested in intimacy if commitment rewards follow. I don't see how any of what you said relates to what he said...?
/r/seduction21/12/11 12:07 AM
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I wish. I can't, I'm outcome dependent. Income dependent too. If you don't care about the outcome, then isn't that one less thing (or perhaps even the only thing for some) to motivate you?
/r/seduction21/12/11 12:00 AM
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Get your hopes up and then have them dashed? I think people purposefully don't get their hopes up so they aren't hurt as much if it turns out negatively.
/r/seduction20/12/11 11:15 PM
1

I'm actually quite confused. You are able to be making out with her... why isn't it escalating to more then? Groping her, moving your hands around... start taking her bra off, her top, etc. -> leads to sex. I don't get why this isn't happening if you're already making out, even if it is light
/r/seduction20/12/11 10:17 PM
1

It's fucking hit or miss man.. seriously. I was with this girl who I knew was into me and throughout the time we were at the bar, I had my hand on her back, kind of holding it there and also sort of stroking a bit and being totally immersed in conversation with her, taking her hand at times. We even made out a bit afterward. No next date. Another girl, I was totally hands-off on and we had a bit of a kiss afterward. No next date. I blamed myself for the first one for being too forward, but the s…
/r/seduction20/12/11 04:19 PM
1

I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. To a beautiful woman, nothing could be more routine or boring than to be told something about their looks. A woman who is attractive is told this literally every day of her life from a very young age, often many times a day. So wanting sex from her is glaringly obvious due to physical attraction. I would especially expect immediate rejection if this is the first thing I said to her (unless it's done with a sly confidence, which is what I'm getting…
/r/seduction18/12/11 08:07 AM
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Also, it sounds like what you're talking about is more about confidence. "They want a man who is a man" - yea, no argument there. But to a beautiful woman, they get comments about their beauty all the time and the only reason a guy would want to have sex with them without knowing them is due to that very beauty. So I would expect a beautiful woman to already know that guys covet their beauty for sex.
/r/seduction18/12/11 08:05 AM
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What kind of questions do you keep in the back pocket, specifically?
/r/seduction18/12/11 07:59 AM
1

Wow. It must be me then, most girls I've met lately are all about relationships and not wanting to be physical too fast. Or simply just aren't interested in anything more beyond friendship. I've made it clear enough that I'm interested in them in that way and it isn't receptive. We get along and everything and I'm no slouch, but we aren't on the same page regarding this.
/r/seduction17/12/11 02:48 AM
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Just curious - did you used to be fat or have some kind of physical issue that you no longer have?
/r/seduction17/12/11 12:06 AM
6

So what do you do with the women who actually do act or at least expect to be treated like princesses and give nothing in return?
/r/seduction15/12/11 05:34 AM
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I dunno, beautiful women mainly get admiration for their physical beauty, obviously, so they're probably more sick of guys who just want sex.
/r/seduction15/12/11 05:33 AM
1

I thought SF had a lot of asians
/r/seduction13/12/11 10:02 PM
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Problem is, if I started asking out every pretty girl I saw, I'd lose my job and spend all my time doing it as opposed to working or doing anything else.
/r/seduction13/12/11 10:01 PM
7

Amazing. Just curious, how old are you, Tofu?
/r/seduction12/12/11 05:53 AM
2

Curious, the only girl who appears asian is the one sitting on his lap and the darker skinned girl in the second pic. How did you arrive at the conclusion that everyone is asian?
/r/seduction11/12/11 09:32 PM
1

"we?"
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:42 AM
1

What do you mean didn't work? What happened?
/r/seduction09/12/11 05:39 AM
1

Curious what you think: How do you open up a girl who appears highly defensive? What I mean is there is no explicit literal definition of the two of you seeing each other as being a date or having romantic connotations. (Is that my fault? Should I have been more explicit about it?) Like if you get a girl's number and then set something up to meet for a drink or dinner, but there is no explicit mention that this is a date. You meet and you talk and hang out, etc but there is no real opportunity t…
/r/seduction08/12/11 06:47 PM
1

Thanks for taking the time to respond, I appreciate it. Yea I get you on expanding my horizons, knowledge and such. However, when I said gaining new skills and all, I didn't mean so much as to be better than anyone else but simply getting those skills, knowledge to a competent level where I don't look stupid talking about it or acting those skills out. That'll take a lot of effort. But in the short term, the things you suggest may help but if you say that the ultimate goal is to make people want…
/r/seduction08/12/11 06:33 PM
2

Hmm I think that opener sounds good in theory but she did give you her number when she was drunk so it's almost implying that the sober version of her possibly wouldn't have done so. I dunno, that's at least what came across to me. Like it could mean the attraction or whatever it was was only that night and only when she was drunk, otherwise her being sober now is a brand new experience and so who the hell are you to her now?
/r/seduction06/12/11 10:23 PM
1

How do I do that though? Be that person I want to be around? I have no value. It would take a lot of time and energy to be that - learn new skills, gain knowledge on various topics, etc. and be good at them to a certain degree so that it's just impressive or good enough that people like you. That takes a lot of time and energy, doesn't it? I mean I'm talking months if not years. Also, I think the girl actually has lived here for long enough so talking about the area that way might be kind odd. A…
/r/seduction06/12/11 10:20 PM
1

More often than not, I find this to be untrue of women so I suppose that's good that you and your friends do this, at the very least. For example, I met this girl in an elevator last week and we talked a bit and I asked if she wanted to get a drink since she works in the same neighborhood. She said yes and I asked for her number but then she suddenly asked me to give her my number and said she'll text me, even though I've already pulled up the entry field on my phone. So she starts pulling hers …
/r/seduction06/12/11 05:14 PM
1

So did you do it? What happened?
/r/seduction06/12/11 04:57 PM
1

No argument from me on the rest, except I do think kissing is atypical on the first meeting. My initial meaning was accosting on the street and only having a brief window of time with her. That doesn't usually end in a kiss, does it? A number or contact info is all you're likely to get. But then I thought in general, the very first time a girl meets you ever, pretty much no matter where, you're strangers and have a relatively short amount of time - is a kiss typical for this? I can't imagine it …
/r/seduction05/12/11 11:52 PM
2

My only guess then is that he's trying to attain the Fight Club Brad Pitt look. I don't blame him, many think he looks really good in that movie. Do you? In fact, I think I've overdeveloped my chest in comparison to the rest of my own body (through a ton of pushups and not much else). Although there's more to it than that, however. Are you somewhat of an authority on this topic?
/r/seduction05/12/11 11:41 PM
1

hey man, what doin?
/r/seduction05/12/11 11:30 PM
2

What about as the post suggests, trying to start a conversation with a stranger
/r/seduction05/12/11 11:12 PM
1

I get what you're saying but his build (without seeing him shirtless of course) kind of reminds me of Brad Pitt in Fight Club, or am I off? Either way they both look pretty lean and both their chests aren't pronounced while their arms are kinda built
/r/seduction05/12/11 10:48 PM
15

"You're a bitch."
/r/seduction05/12/11 06:07 PM
1

I'll give you an example. I started talking to this girl and I was nervous as fucking fuck. But anyway, I asked her where she's from and she says Philippines. I say, "Oh ok cool." And I have NOTHING to say about it. NOTHING. So I actually come out and say "I have nothing to say, I don't know anything about Philippines or anything." And I just look stupid. The look on her face is just not of any interest. I'm not so sure that kind of "say anything at all" content is really any good at all. I mean…
/r/seduction03/12/11 06:52 AM
1

That's certainly true (girls not calling) and I do see what you're meaning but you're typically not going to score a kiss upon first meeting/pickup. So I would think it's unfair to pit getting a number versus a kiss on the same level when they are given at different stages. For example, fucking her is even better than a kiss, so are you supposed to discount a kiss? Both are at different stages so the goal of one stage is different than the goal of the next.
/r/seduction03/12/11 06:39 AM
1

Fun, sure, but I'm personally not convinced it's generally genuine. It's all done to charm, and that's not always genuine.
/r/seduction02/12/11 08:22 PM
1

So getting a number is useless? Then what are you supposed to do/get?
/r/seduction02/12/11 08:19 PM
1

My problem with this is I don't know what to say. I know, you say just say something, right? But gosh, I'm speechless a lot of the time. I'm talking about stupid stuff, mundane stuff. I'm initiating a conversation and can't find a single thing, what do? Especially if she tells me something about herself that I have no knowledge or or even related tangential info about to bring up.
/r/seduction02/12/11 08:17 PM
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Just something I've wondered while trying to learn this whole thing: Is it truly possible to be 100% honestly outcome independent? I mean, sure, if you hit on a ton of girls, not every one is going to be the girl of your dreams or hook you but there's got to be a handful who are absolutely gorgeous or just exactly your type and you'll not likely have the same chance again? And if you are truly outcome independent, you shouldn't care if you fail 99% of the time either then? And if so, then why bo…
/r/seduction02/12/11 08:15 PM
1

Not necessarily, I see a lot of gimmicks/peacocking (if that's the right term), and laying it on super thick. But I do see your point if you're talking about simply having confidence and being bold enough to go for it being nothing that the average guy can't do if he just pushes himself.
/r/seduction02/12/11 08:06 PM
2

Regulators! Did you mount up?
/r/seduction30/11/11 06:47 PM
1

You kind of have a 50/50 shot here... It's a bit tricky. I've wondered this myself, regarding FB messaging. I suppose you really don't have much to lose so why not? At worst, you'll lose value since you didn't "man up" and do it the first time and now you're thinking of her and meekly sending a message that's not as strong as face-to-face that you had prior. If this is the case, she'll likely ignore you. Which, again, is nothing to lose.
/r/seduction30/11/11 06:41 PM
1

Hey, what became of this? Did you see her again and how did it go? How did you contact her?
/r/seduction30/11/11 01:13 AM
1

Did you do anything kinky?
/r/seduction29/11/11 11:53 PM
1

I second those who say it doesn't matter. If she wants you, she wants you. Just make a move. Maybe this isn't par the course or suggested, but I've basically made a move within the first maybe 5-10 minutes of the movie and things usually happen.
/r/seduction29/11/11 05:16 PM
1

You say he has an attitude of not giving a shit but then how does he get their numbers or approach in the first place? The girls approach him or something? Or if he does the approaching, how does he give off that attitude if he is the one who wants their number, etc?
/r/seduction29/11/11 05:14 PM
1

Hooked up as in sex?
/r/seduction27/11/11 12:16 AM
5

I think 'cute' is too G-rated of a word, perhaps. Perhaps 'hot', or maybe even 'sexy' or 'amazing'. Or if she's into it (which at the time, you don't know, so stick with 'hot'), calling her a 'slut' or 'whore' with a sly intense grin but that's if she's into it. That being said, the OP is turning me on quite a bit.
/r/seduction20/11/11 09:11 PM
1

Is this happening again? Was there a name for the event? If so, what was it?
/r/seduction20/11/11 05:19 AM
1

I assume lots of hot girls? Did you try to talk to anyone else? What was the age range and any details of the event?
/r/seduction18/11/11 04:24 PM
1

I don't think this is exclusive to females. Nor is it exclusive to dating. People want what they can't have, as other commenters have said, or perhaps it's almost a feeling of indignation or losing a sense of "authority" on the matter that makes them want to regain it.
/r/seduction18/11/11 03:56 PM
1

Do you want to have sex with someone who truly loves you?
/r/seduction17/11/11 07:34 PM
1

Good on you, this is awesome being able to be cool/chill enough to turn the situation on its head. Is this event over? I'm highly interested
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:17 PM
1

But what if what I have now is good and going for what I want is hard because of obstacles or things that are difficult to manage or even impossible to avoid?
/r/seduction15/11/11 12:45 AM
1

I see what you mean, it does make sense. But should I not appreciate what I have now and never stop striving for more or what I ultimately want? Or should I stop striving for more/what I want and just stay the course for the rest of my life?
/r/seduction15/11/11 12:43 AM
1

Ultimately, if you can take a gamble and pursue your love of art or music and sacrifice the things that would otherwise get you by then should you? Or just be happy with what you're doing getting by and draw in your sketchbook and just do karaoke?
/r/seduction15/11/11 12:42 AM
2

What would you have done if the HB7 or the group of girls responded with "no" to your question. As in "No, you shouldn't say hello"? What would you have said in response and then done next?
/r/seduction15/11/11 12:02 AM
4

So you should settle and be happy about it?
/r/seduction14/11/11 08:59 PM
4

What if you don't know what you're good at? What if you're indecisive and unsure? What if you're inadequate and not focused, meandering? What do you do?
/r/seduction14/11/11 08:06 PM
1

But I thought you do give a fuck that you're not having sex with someone who truly loves you? I think others hold that dear
/r/seduction14/11/11 07:57 PM
-1

But more money gets you more women, supposedly
/r/seduction14/11/11 07:55 PM
1

I kinda get what you are saying but trust me, I do feel them. I feel them so deeply that I feel like shit pretty often. I'm a loser that is trying to find some glimmer of worth in myself but I know it to be false. It's affecting my professional and personal life. I am inadequate, all of the time. So what do I do? In your example, you say you felt loneliness and if you were to be with someone at that moment, would that make you feel different... well why wouldn't it? You would no longer be lonely…
/r/seduction14/11/11 05:28 PM
1

And then what though? I'll ask myself and yes, I am feeling one or more or all of them and then what? I'll still feel that way and find no more comfort in knowing it since knowing this doesn't solve my inadequacy or shame.
/r/seduction12/11/11 01:03 AM
4

Really? It's the other way around for me.
/r/seduction12/11/11 01:00 AM
1

I stopped and then when I didn't get any, I regretted stopping. Almost to the point of considering calling her again to "catch up"
/r/seduction12/11/11 12:56 AM
1

Yes, but from where? How?
/r/seduction12/11/11 12:55 AM
6

But she kind of pretty much was a chick you just met at a bar. You met her at a party, same difference more or less. However, you probably mean that you had invested some time and getting to know her over the week. In any event, I don't think you did anything wrong by having her come back. She clearly was interested and brought the subject up herself and she entered on her own without any protest (eg. "I'm not sure I should come in", etc). I think the fault (if you want to call it that) lies mor…
/r/seduction04/11/11 06:43 PM
6

I really can't imagine that "smile" one working...
/r/seduction03/11/11 04:10 PM
1

Goddamn you, why would you delete?
/r/seduction31/10/11 10:50 PM
1

But apparently I'm not supposed to
/r/seduction30/10/11 03:29 AM
4

What if a person is on here to take advantage or be deceptive?
/r/seduction28/10/11 05:44 PM
2

But what about after it's over and you the thoughts creep in of what you could have done differently or what would have been even more effective. Basically, the regrets. They are really massive for me. They cycle in my head all the time. I realize that at the time (and especially when getting yourself pumped up and feel the confidence to approach or whatnot) you should just say "fuck it" and do it and feel loose about it but when it doesn't go right, how do you deal with those thoughts of regret…
/r/seduction27/10/11 09:04 PM
2

threesome?
/r/seduction12/10/11 05:20 PM
7

I've done the same. Was thinking something funny to myself and kind of smiled and turned my head to see out the window of the train, and the cute girl next to me looked at me and smiled. I was totally caught off guard so looked away and didn't do anything. She turned back as well and nothing happened. We both got out of the train together but I walked a different way. edit: I hate my life
/r/seduction11/10/11 08:12 PM
1

wow.. interesting. I can understand this point - just a couple hours later is pretty bad Is this story true or did he make it up? If made up, what's the point? What is a "shit test"? And what did he say/do that made you think he was too beta? If you know the smooth talkers/douchebags are, frankly, douchebags then why do you like them? You like douchebags? The type with the Ed Hardy shirts and aggressive attitudes that look like they're compensating for something? If so, why? What is it about it?…
/r/seduction11/10/11 07:46 PM
1

What do you perceive as the differences between the two kind of guys? What do the guys who know this stuff do for you, specifically? And what about the other guys? What are some examples? When you say "uhhhh buddy, are u serious?" - what do you mean? What actions or behavior prompt this reaction? What could they have done differently that would have made a positive difference?
/r/seduction07/10/11 04:58 AM
2

That's really presumptuous. Interesting that it works. I can imagine a girl being like, "Um... you want my number?" And kind of debating it. So again, interesting that it works.
/r/seduction05/10/11 12:35 AM
3

Yep. It isn't creepy if you're attracted to him, right ladies?
/r/seduction05/10/11 12:34 AM
3

Tell us more? Would be interesting to learn about your experience, especially versus "the other ones"
/r/seduction05/10/11 12:33 AM
1

Ok, but the question is what happens next? Does he call you? Text you? How long until he does? What does he say when he calls? Or when he texts? And do you respond? Also, this is interesting I guess but I honestly thought it was obvious. If you're having a good time conversing with a girl and it's going smoothly and both people are relaxed, then of course you'll ask her for her number. But I suppose the difference is it was in mid-conversation? I honestly think that would be weird. A sudden chan…
/r/seduction05/10/11 12:31 AM
1

Isn't that too much? I mean, it's one thing to be the best no matter what, ends justifying the means, but at what cost?
/r/seduction05/10/11 12:15 AM
1

I kind of get what you mean. Although, how do you feel like you could get any girl? You mean you gather enough confidence to psyche yourself up?
/r/seduction03/10/11 09:36 PM
1

The way you just described that sounds like you're breaking ties with her completely. No friendship, no birthday, no anything..
/r/seduction03/10/11 09:35 PM
1

Yea I can understand. So what happened?
/r/seduction27/09/11 10:16 PM
1

Let me ask - have you ever asked her what's up? If it was just once or even twice, I can see not asking but this has dragged on for a while now. Why don't you just ask her what's going on with her (cite the history like you've described here) and see what she says? Also, whereabouts are you?
/r/seduction22/09/11 05:51 PM
1

suave.
/r/seduction16/09/11 09:07 PM
0

link to her profile?
/r/seduction16/09/11 09:00 PM
4

Thanks for this but god...too much pressure. I'm not good at this sort of thing.
/r/seduction16/09/11 03:46 PM
1

How did you slap her face? Open hand or back hand? From behind or directly in front of her? How hard did you slap her? Did you slap her hard enough to make her fall or falter? What made you even say that you'd tie her up and slap her?
/r/seduction13/09/11 12:54 AM
0

You wanna get up on me?
/r/seduction12/09/11 06:26 PM
1

Did you slap her face? What's "SOP"?
/r/seduction12/09/11 06:23 PM
1

What if you're literally told you are? I had a male friend who would tell me that I was being creepy by talking to this girl in a clothing store while she was browsing. All I did was try to talk to her, I think I maybe asked her her name or something. Was he right? He said he had a friend who would do the same sort of thing pretty often and he found it creepy. This is a guy who doesn't actively do anything in terms of being with a girl. He doesn't get any girls, it's not like they're fawning ove…
/r/seduction05/09/11 10:30 PM
1

So saying something like that isn't going to get me looks and thoughts that I'm being or creepy? I'm fairly certain it would...
/r/seduction05/09/11 08:07 AM
1

Last night, I saw this girl I wanted but I only ended up saying "Excuse me" and then asking her directions to public transportation. I had walked a few blocks behind her already so wasn't sure if she recognized that I was already there. But in any case, she was receptive and answered me and seemed genuinely interested in helping me out. But I didn't say anymore. I basically repeated the gist of her directions to have her confirm and then went on my way. I ALWAYS regret. I always do this to mysel…
/r/seduction01/09/11 02:45 PM
1

What effects did you get? Last night, I saw this girl I wanted but I only ended up saying "Excuse me" and then asking her directions to public transportation. I had walked a few blocks behind her already so wasn't sure if she recognized that I was already there. But in any case, she was receptive and answered me and seemed genuinely interested in helping me out. But I didn't say anymore. I basically repeated the gist of her directions to have her confirm and then went on my way. I ALWAYS regret.…
/r/seduction01/09/11 02:45 PM
2

Can't help but overthink. What do I do? Antidepressants?
/r/seduction31/08/11 04:25 PM
5

Couldn't agree more. Inconsiderate to the point of horribleness.
/r/seduction18/07/11 05:15 PM
2

That's so easier said than done. You just go up to a girl and... say what? You're supposed to have something ready and awesome to say and perpetuate in conversation within 3 seconds?
/r/seduction14/07/11 10:56 PM
1

What about asking if just girls in general will be there? Not using any adjective to describe?
/r/seduction14/07/11 10:52 PM
1

Hm I see. But isn't there more to make up for if you're shorter? Like you have to "game" extra hard? Like the starting line is further back for you if you're less physically attractive than a guy who is more attractive. Also, you bring the girls you meet out with you to events with others? Like developing a relationship to some degree? Or do you just do one-on-one casual stuff with the goal of only bedding them than developing anything significant past that?
/r/seduction11/07/11 11:55 PM
1

You're ultimately right, but the show did give exposure and popularity which led to girls being more keen/aware of it. I'm just recalling conversations I'd have with girls (not trying to pick them up, just hearing from hanging out with friends) about the show and conversations about the tactics/strategy involved (neg, etc) after they not only perhaps watched the show but also googled info about it because of it. Still though, in the end, human social interactions are still human social interacti…
/r/seduction11/07/11 10:55 PM
1

How tall was she, by the way? And the other girls?
/r/seduction02/07/11 04:29 AM
1

Can you give an example opener an resulting convo?
/r/seduction02/07/11 04:23 AM
1

Yea, it seems to me that you'd have to literally be thinking of picking up girls every single time you walk outside if you're going to be any good at all. I think that would seriously mess with my mind in objectifying women much more than I already do. And yea, definitely harder when they're in motion. This is 99% the case for me though, not sure how to do this.
/r/seduction02/07/11 04:22 AM
1

Well, that helps.
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:20 PM
1

But the moment passes so quickly, how do you approach so soon? Especially when you are completely taken by surprise and caught off-guard?
/r/seduction01/07/11 09:12 PM
1

What about the notion that sometimes it's just better to leave it alone and move past it? Not talk about it so that it sticks with you but rather just say "forget it" and move on? I have heard that this is kind of thing may be more of an Eastern thing while therapy and such is more of a Westerner thing. But beyond the culture bit, which method is better -- talking it through or just shutting up and moving on? For example, some bad thing happens between you and a friend but the next time you see …
/r/seduction01/07/11 06:40 PM
1

Just wondering, how tall are you?
/r/seduction01/07/11 04:20 AM
1

Actually, let me ask - did she see you at all the first few times you saw her around? Sometimes I wonder that if she's already seen you, the notion that you are coming back around again can be construed, however incorrectly, as creepy. Like especially in your scenario where you saw her at least three separate times. Let's say she saw you each time.. would it have been weirder either for you or for her?
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:44 AM
1

So what would you say? The same thing but using simpler words or something different entirely?
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:42 AM
1

Hm. I don't know.. part of it is that it's kinda fake, you know? You're paying for someone to care about you. And then after 45 minutes, you're pushed out the door. The other thing is that a lot of it is about my parents and where the root of the issue comes from. I get that but that's kind of all it is. Otherwise, it's just me talking and venting and feeling worse because I'm talking about a problem. And I'm left with nothing to do in a practical way to solve it. Is this how it is for you?
/r/seduction01/07/11 02:41 AM
1

Do you have one? How is s/he?
/r/seduction28/06/11 12:48 AM
1

Hmm I see.. he said he would like to get together with friends in a comfy room with lots of pillows, soft couches, etc and do it together with some music playing. I think it's going to be for July 4th. Wonder if I should partake. Another guy said that he would completely make up with friends who he hadn't spoken to because they had fought and never saw each other afterwards. He'd see them at a party where he did MDMA/E and they would just start hugging and renew friendship. I recall trying to as…
/r/seduction28/06/11 12:36 AM
1

Hm what kind of frame would you use? What would you say? How would you lead up to it?
/r/seduction28/06/11 12:27 AM
1

What is the ideal environment to be in when taking it? Relaxing atmosphere with only friends or party with friends and random people? Also, I don't smoke pot. In fact, I don't do any drugs at all or even smoke cigs. Should I still try it or am I asking for trouble?
/r/seduction22/06/11 02:51 AM
1

The guy I was talking to was talking strictly "pure MDMA" and not E/ecstasy you would typically find in a rave or some such. So it sounds like you're backing up what he claimed. I've also heard that you become really touchy feely, not necessarily wanting sex but definitely touching and perhaps even sexually? This true? Also, how often is a special occasion for MDMA? Every few months? Once a month?
/r/seduction22/06/11 02:50 AM
1

I am seeing one... not that effective I guess. Never has been.
/r/seduction22/06/11 02:47 AM
1

The guy I was talking with (who made it known he knew all about it) scoffed at the notion that it's addictive. And said there's basically no So he's wrong? He was talking about "pure MDMA, not E (ecstasy)" because E is just filled with "filler like cocaine" that you would find from a dealer. This true? And what has been your personal experience? I will also read your sources, thank you.
/r/seduction22/06/11 02:45 AM
1

So what is your experience on emotional addictiveness? I told the person I was talking to that I have a sort of addictive personality, with things like food and alcohol and other stuff (not drugs though). They kind of just said no, it doesn't happen with MDMA. But I don't know. For me, I sometimes can't get enough of a good thing and don't know the meaning of diminishing returns. Would it not be advisable for someone like me?
/r/seduction22/06/11 02:43 AM
1

I have heard from the same source that it is not addictive at all. Can anyone back that up?
/r/seduction22/06/11 02:41 AM
1

Is that what you would have said if you approached her the first or second time you saw her? If you turned around to stop her, how would you have done it? Tap on the shoulder from behind her and say the same thing about it being a bit odd but wanted to say she was cute?
/r/seduction22/06/11 01:01 AM
1

What would you have done?
/r/seduction22/06/11 12:58 AM
3

It's a motivational poop. A PUAP
/r/seduction22/06/11 12:57 AM
1

anyclip says this video is not available in my country. I'm in the US, anyone else have this problem?
/r/seduction21/06/11 04:10 PM
3

*gulp*
/r/seduction21/06/11 04:06 PM
1

I am like this too, very very very much so. I really hate it. I envy the people I know who can just let things roll off their backs and stay generally positive/ok
/r/seduction20/06/11 10:22 PM
1

I don't think it is.. I mean, if it lasts for longer than it should or it affects your mood so greatly that it affects your personal life and your actions
/r/seduction20/06/11 10:21 PM
1

I get the same way that he just described, fragile emotioally. This is good advice but not that useful if you don't have anything positive within to begin with.
/r/seduction20/06/11 10:20 PM
1

Have you taken it? I'm actually curious about it. From what I have heard, there are no side effects, it's safe and studies about any negative effects are not true?
/r/seduction20/06/11 10:18 PM
2

And then she is annoyed, or is waiting for you to do something... obviously something not stupid. But you're nervous so the likelihood of doing a stupid thing is higher. what then?
/r/seduction14/06/11 11:08 PM
3

What do you do if the girl is listening to an iPod/has headphones/earbuds on and you want to talk to her? What do you do if she's just walking down the street and you see her?
/r/seduction14/06/11 03:51 PM
1

It is. And the number one reason I hate stuff like Facebook and Twitter. It's just marketing ourselves to one another. I already detest it in real life, why do it online?
/r/seduction14/06/11 12:44 AM
1

God that takes a mountain of confidence that I just don't have. I'm too afraid of doing the wrong thing and looking stupid and being rejected.
/r/seduction14/06/11 12:38 AM
-1

And what if you actually are "boring and bland"? What then?
/r/seduction13/06/11 04:28 PM
1

You're kidding right? Because I could certainly do that.
/r/seduction13/06/11 01:54 PM
1

What you just described sounds like friendship, not so much an intimate relationship. I feel like you need a deeper connection with someone than small ones. It certainly includes those small ones but I think it needs to go further for a fulfilling relationship. Passion, for one. Although that one may or may not last.
/r/seduction13/06/11 01:51 PM
1

I thought the premise of the usual seduction stuff was that you're supposed to stay dominant and leave her wanting you. Like enough to even turn your back on her and mean it while she is the one now trying to get your attention. Something like that. Is that not the case?
/r/seduction11/06/11 11:37 PM
1

Ok but what should he have said as a specific example in that specific scenario?
/r/seduction11/06/11 05:53 AM
1

I'm the opposite. It's a fuckton of pressure, haranguing and questioning myself constantly, thoughts swirling around and running through my head about what I should do or not do and then always terribly terribly regretting what I did do or what I didn't do. I'm a real mess at that part. But if I ever do succeed, the stuff afterward is a lot easier because I've gotten her approval or interest in me so now that I know she's into me, it's smoother sailing. The pressure isn't as great as when it was…
/r/seduction10/06/11 03:53 PM
1

Can you describe more? I'm genuinely interested in how it's done and how you've done it personally. For example, in these scenarios, I'm always wondering what I can do and really regretting not doing something: Girl is walking towards me from opposite direction on the street Girl is walking a few steps ahead of me on the street going same direction Girl is waiting at the subway stop Girl is sitting on the subway train What do you do in those situations? And what if they're with a friend or maybe…
/r/seduction10/06/11 03:30 AM
1

Then what should he have said?
/r/seduction10/06/11 02:55 AM
1

Well yea but the strongest person is stronger than everyone else. So I guess if you're the coolest, you're cooler than everyone else. Cooler/better, I took that as the same thing. Can you link me to the discussion, if you don't mind?
/r/seduction10/06/11 01:43 AM
2

Yea, that glare is bad. And a lot of those items are either repeated or just worded differently. And the last one says you're the coolest on the planet yet another one says you're no better than anyone else. Who made this list? reddit.com/r/gm doesn't exist either. But in any case, I don't believe this list is truly attainable in modern society. Unless you're a Buddhist, I guess. Don't you get disappointed if a girl you like doesn't reciprocate? Or you don't reach a goal you've been working on f…
/r/seduction09/06/11 12:35 AM
1

What about this? http://www.good.is/post/women-find-happy-men-less-attractive-than-grumps/
/r/seduction01/06/11 04:00 AM
2

Can you describe more about the 18 year old? Why didn't you just hook up with slut?
/r/seduction14/05/11 08:48 PM
1

Perhaps that might be a little self-serving in terms of justifying your actions though? No offense meant, just a thought as I read your comment.
/r/seduction15/04/11 03:09 PM
1

Same here. I'm with a girl who did the latter (committed emotionally) and now we have been together for a while but to be honest, I have lost a lot of interest. She is great but, as you said, I have lost that interest... I hate myself for it because she is really good and I wish I could reciprocate 100% (I do but not 100%), but I think I am still not over picking up/going out with other girls. I don't want to lose her yet I still want to be with other girls. How do I do this? And I am not a guy …
/r/seduction14/04/11 09:39 PM
1

Actually, this is true for me too. However, I only kept interest because the girls themselves were interesting though. But strictly speaking, once you've had sex with a girl and your mindset is on "picking up", the goal of it all has been accomplished so there is less of an incentive. All that is left is if you are truly interested in her to begin with. But again, if your goal is to pick up then sex is kind of a final step/zone and the chase, as what everyone is commenting here, is what really i…
/r/seduction14/04/11 09:35 PM
1

You had a threesome? What do you do for a living by the way? Just curious
/r/seduction13/04/11 05:38 PM
1

Wow, did this really need to be asked? I thought it was pretty obvious that F-closing was the goal. I mean unless you wanted a relationship but then why would you F-close -- keyword being "close"?
/r/seduction13/04/11 05:36 PM
1

I thought that would have been a pretty obvious opener to use
/r/seduction17/03/11 03:36 AM
2

As with everyone else, I thought this was pretty great. Though I wonder how many takes he had to do with girls who just wouldn't give him the time of day and either walked on by despite him accosting them or answered but turned him down either during the beginning or at the end. I also wonder how this would work in NYC. I feel like people really keep to themselves and stay isolated even though there's a sea of people around. Another thing is that this was filmed either entirely or mostly on a sc…
/r/seduction17/03/11 03:35 AM
2

I had a very similar situation happen and even web designer was met with a "oh that sounds boring"
/r/seduction12/03/11 05:41 AM
2

You're getting downvoted but I agree. Why? Because I had a very similar situation occur and my description of my job as a web designer was met with "oh that sounds boring" from a european model who travels all over the world. It did not impress. If a job with "designer" in the title didn't get anywhere, I highly doubt tcp/ip engineer would fare any better.
/r/seduction12/03/11 05:36 AM
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