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The difference between OF and your examples is consent. That is...a pretty huge distinction.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 08:58 AM
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I'm not criticizing, I'm asking an honest question. That was my intent, any way. I seem to have failed
/r/MensRights23/08/22 03:33 AM
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You mean other than with their friends and this very sub?
/r/MensRights22/08/22 06:42 PM
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I really want to be wrong and I'm not sure I understand but are you openly admitting to being prejudiced? As for reddit, Unless I'm a part of a hate group, It should not matter what I am, only what I say. There are certainly some feminists who are misandrists. That is undoubtedly the case. But it is not "most" of us. Just as there are some misogynist MRA guys, but I assume it's the minority, not the majority. It is precisely because I'm a feminist that I am here trying to understand the problems…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 03:48 AM
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I know they do it the wrong way. I agreed to that in my first sentence. I was just asking why someone was pleased that they fail at an attempt that comes from a good concept. I’m not happy they fail at it, but they miserably do fail. If they didn’t fail, people would be going for it. I just want mes to understand why someone was happy that they were failing if their desired outcome (although admittedly different from actual outcome) is coming from a good place. I don’t know why I bother with thi…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:12 PM
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Can you explain this to me? I agree that almost everything done in the name of that movement is anywhere from annoying to terrible, it does come from a good place. Misguided as fuck in many (most?) cases but it seems like an act of intended kindness
/r/MensRights04/08/22 09:53 AM
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Maybe this is a lingering artifact from chivalry culture. I guess it seems like it’s still happening in many parts of the US. I haven’t experienced it in Europe or Asia at all. While it is definitely true that it costs women a lot more to get ready for dates (in general), that has zero relevancy to the topic of paying for date activities. What a strange argument
/r/MensRights04/08/22 09:51 AM
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Fair enough, a reasonable stance. I forgot that we were talking about the US. That certainly makes OP's point more relevant
/r/MensRights03/08/22 07:29 AM
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Nothing at all, but the person I replied to stated that drafts never had a meaningful reason to recruit only men and my argument was that they don't anymore but that they used to
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:55 AM
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Where are you pulling this from? I have been treated on a few dates but it always comes as a surprise to me and I never expect it. I have paid for more dates than I’ve been treated to, but to be fair that is a choice I make rather than a necessity. Most of my friends say they split the bill on a first date and if there are subsequent dates they take turns. I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just wondering what kind of demographic this is that you're referring to. For reference, my experiences are f…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:48 AM
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And you seem to be confusing a modern draft with a draft that took place 1800 years ago which almost certainly meant combat and even when it didn’t mean combat it might still mean death. That’s what I’m talking about and maybe I wasn’t clear enough about that. Apologies.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 04:42 AM
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You’re right that there is not currently a legitimate reason for excluding women but I think in older times there was a legitimate reason. Rebuilding a depleted population requires many more women than men. That isn’t the world we are dealing with today but it was a serious concern in times past.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 04:26 AM
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I don’t know if you want a woman’s perspective on this so if not, I apologize in advance. Thought it might be useful for you, though. You may tell me I’m full of shit, but I maintain that you don’t need to be super attractive, rich, etc to get women. Perhaps if you’re seeking girls in their early 20s who are built like supermodels? But then again, those are girls, not women. (Emotionally). I am in my late 30s and attractive enough (I won’t win a beauty pageant no matter who the judge is, but I w…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 09:31 AM
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If I understand your point correctly, I could list a litany of examples, that have personally touched my own life, of men abusing women physically and in one specific case murdering her and that would be a valid response to the comment rather than the generalized one I made. But I simply have to disagree with you. Me stating any of those situations isn't helpful, despite them being true. Listing bad things that men have done doesn't make women's condition better and the reverse is also true. It …
/r/MensRights25/07/22 08:26 AM
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Thanks for telling me how me and my friends feel about a subject we discuss frequently and which affects our lives greatly. I can't believe we had it so wrong all this time.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 08:17 AM
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And you don't seem in a position to vilify a movement you clearly know nothing about, but here we are.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 08:08 AM
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Feminism, for fuck's sake, isn't about destroying men. It's about uplifting marginalized people. If Karen gets a raise, it does not mean Bob gets a pay reduction. What is it with this constant demonization?
/r/MensRights23/07/22 07:08 AM
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I'm trying to make the point that it isn't helpful to give random anecdotes that aren't representative of the situation. I am not using the sample sentence I made a as a point itself, just to illustrate the fault in the logic of the above comment. I, too, believe that if someone were saying a comment such as I made, it would be unhelpful. That is precisely the point.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 07:05 AM
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And a woman can be an awesome, supportive partner and still get murdered by her boyfriend. See how unhelpful that kind of comment is?
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:52 PM
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If you're 16, I have some advice for you that has greatly helped me in my own life. Don't get all of your information about anything from one source. If I got all of my info about MRA from r/feminism I have no doubt I'd be terrified of MRAs as well. But I'm a feminist and I'm here, trying to learn. I think it would be good for you to do something similar. And remember, the two concepts are not mutually exclusive. They, in fact, compliment each other, though plenty of members from both groups wil…
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:49 PM
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That makes more sense, thank you
/r/MensRights22/07/22 03:33 PM
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There's no such thing. That's like saying "the psychological profile of a woman". The range is so broad that there is no meaningful common ground that can be honed in on. For example, I'm very much a feminist but a lot of the videos I see online of people labeled as feminists display behavior I find disgusting.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 01:38 PM
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Originally, the United States, but I've lived in Japan for the past 11 years.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 01:36 PM
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That woman and her family’s actions have nothing to do with even the most toxic forms of feminism and you know it.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 06:44 AM
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well, you may say that but I think my response is typical
/r/MensRights21/07/22 08:02 AM
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Disgusting...
/r/MensRights21/07/22 05:19 AM
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300,000 people a year beg to differ at its rarity. Women in their forties and also women of color also beg to differ.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 07:00 PM
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It's over 300,000 annually, not 700. Look it up. You're only proving my point with your argument. Let's agree and say that the legal, societal etc pressured are equal, as you say. But the physical are obviously not. That puts men at precisely half as fucked, not the same level
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:59 PM
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Your sense of accountability is extremely foreign to me. No one can make me do anything other than myself. The same is true for you, or do you have no free will? Obviously, being held at gunpoint or something is something of am exception, but also not within the scope of the concept.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:56 PM
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Care to point out the fallacy? It was necessary to point it out because the comment above made the claim that it only happens to make babies, which is objectively incorrect. That isn't up for debate. Plenty of things I've said in other comments were opinion-based and debatable but that is not an opinion.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:54 PM
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I have no doubt men have done that. I have no doubt some women have done it. I have no doubt that people have committed suicide over heartbreak, excessive overtime, large debt, and a great number of other things. That's their own prerogative, at the end of the day, I suppose. But is that a reasonable response? Eye of the beholder, strictly speaking, but if we're talking about my eye, the answer is no.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:52 PM
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Feel free to make more thoughtful and clever attempted burns.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:47 PM
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You can be raped without getting pregnant. You can get pregnant without being raped. These words and concepts are not inherently related. Certainly can be, but are not inherently.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:46 PM
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FGM is bad. MGM is also bad. They both need to disafuckingppear.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 06:45 PM
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Except for the whole "it might kill me" thing. Not that big of a deal, I admit. And even if it doesn't, the discomfort, pain, bleeding, vomiting, nausea, spinal misalignment, infections, which are shared between the man and woman are...wait Is it equal? Help me understand
/r/MensRights14/07/22 07:47 PM
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Damn, that was a good burn on the end there. I don't like you at all but I'll admit a good burn even if it's pointed at me. Well played. No, it isn't. It's in regards to giving up when faced with unwanted parenthood. Although it doesn't suit my existence, I can't say they'd be wrong to have aborted me. I'm super fucking glad they didn't in hindsight but it would have been reasonable to do. Listen, it's been great arguing with you but it's almost 5am. I'm gonna pass out. Thanks for talking with m…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 07:43 PM
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And you are putting victimhood where it doesn't belong. Don't glorify giving up. I've been in a lot of really shitty situations that seemed to have no way out. Sometimes I've put myself there and sometimes I've been put there by circumstance. But you know what has been true every time? I didn't give up. If I had chosen to give up, regardless of whether I got into that situation by my own poor choices or a bunch of events going poorly for me even though I did everything right, it would have been …
/r/MensRights14/07/22 07:29 PM
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By your line of reasoning, if my husband cheats on me and I kill myself, I'm dead because of him. He is the reason I am dead. Sounds silly doesn't it? That's because it is. If my husband cheats on me and I kill myself, I did so because, for whatever reason, I feel I cannot live in a world where that happened. That is on me. Not the husband. While we're at it, I'd like to talk to you about a concept I've been upset about for years. For some reason, no one will take me seriously when I suggest it,…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 07:07 PM
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Misandrists are anti-male. Feminism isn't. I'll get downvoted for saying it but that's fine. Every woman I choose to associate with claims to be a feminist and none of us are anti-male. Most of us have boyfriends or long-term dudes we love and plenty of male friends. We stand up for women's rights when they are threatened, we try to have engaging conversations with people about such things. What you're talking about is the most radical, loud extremists amongst us and using that brush to paint al…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:27 PM
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<3 sure
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:16 PM
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Listen, I am not ignorant of the plight of men being involved in a pregnancy. But if a man decides to kill himself in relation to a pregnancy, it isn't the pregnancy that is killing him but his inability to reconcile emotions within himself in regards to the pregnancy and in the woman's case it is the actual pregnancy. That is a very important distinction. Zero men have ever died as a direct, physical result of pregnancy. In recent decades, the mortality rate of pregnancy has drastically improve…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:15 PM
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Me too. The same issue over in the women’s forums. The loudest, most annoying members are being touted as prime examples of the movement and giving all feminists a bad name just as the loudest, most ignorant members of this group are giving it a bad name when in fact most of you are reasonable, honorable people with justified discontent. As is the case with feminists but few people here want to hear that just as few people in the women’s group want to hear that most of you guys here are good peo…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 04:21 PM
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Forced paternity is not something I condone, for the record, but to say it is as fatal as forced pregnancy is absurd. Is it a problem? Yes. Is it really bad? Also yes. Is it as potentially fatal to men as the women undergoing the actual pregnancy? You claim “no, it is worse for the men.” Many things are worse for men than women, dude, but this isn’t one of them. Please illustrate a single way in which an ectopic pregnancy, eclampsia, placental-uteral attachment, or cervical infections due to pre…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:55 PM
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I don’t feel like anything I said is contentious. I assume it’s because I have a vagina instead of a penis
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:42 PM
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Yeah, it’s not okay. It needs to stop. I never argued otherwise.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:19 PM
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I accused you of hating women when you made the astounding and outright sociopathic claim that zero people are concerned with the surgical and non surgical removal of the entirety of the sexual pleasure producing parts of an infant’s body. I’m not sure if you are confusing my comment with someone else’s but I would challenge you to point out where I have made a show of ignoring the concept of male circumcisions anywhere. What I did do is mention to someone who made a claim that genital mutilatio…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 12:29 PM
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That is a serious contender for “the worst/most evil thing I have ever seen someone say in my life”. I thought this was a forum for men’s rights? I’m also a proponent of that which is why I’m here. Thankfully, most of the men here seem to recognize that one need not openly hate women in order to further their own situation and unlike you, tend to operate with integrity. I get that this might be outside of your conceptual framework as a hateful person but some people do, in fact, care about thing…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 12:08 PM
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Just want to mention that female genital mutilation is practiced in 30 countries and when they do it to women, they don’t just alter it, they remove all possible means of pleasure, removing not only the clitoris but also the labia in some cases, which is where we derive sexual pleasure from. While being penetrated can feel good it’s much more emotional than physical as for what it grants, contrary to what some men seem to believe. Our “dick” is our clit+labia combo. And you’re right that there i…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 10:29 AM
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If that’s an honest question: women who use “virgin” as an insult to men don’t do so because we [women] find it innately insulting, ourselves, but specifically because a large number of men seem to. It could be likened to someone who doesn’t sing or care about singing trying to insult a singer by saying they “can’t hold a tune”, even though the insult wouldn’t be meaningful as an insult if directed at the person saying it.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 10:18 AM
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