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palm readings and a variety of other games, activities, etc. are good. there is one from the Pickup Artist vh1 show (season 1) where you get the girl to hold her hands with 2 fingers in an awkward position and over time they come together, and you talk about being drawn together or something. i'm not personally a fan of that kinda stuff (too superstitious) but it's a good excuse for kino and most girls love it b/c of the cold reading aspect. and the cold reading part isn't superstition, that's l…
/r/seduction28/04/19 03:24 AM
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no, i wrote about it. i wanted to capture and share that part in a way which would make sense for people who'd never seen the show
/r/seduction26/09/15 08:25 PM
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reminds me of something i wrote in 2007 about girls lacking real interests/hobbies/etc. i think it's really common and really sad: Show: Lizzie McGuire Background: Lizzie is a pretty normal girl, about age 14. Larry Tudgman is a nerd her age and one episode he asks her out. She feels bad about rejecting him and decides to go on a date, but then he tells people at school that they are boyfriend and girlfriend. She breaks up with him and says they aren't compatible. She expects him to cry. The con…
/r/seduction26/09/15 06:12 AM
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Being a jerk is a way of acting higher status than her, acting like you're above her and don't care and she has to win you over instead of vice versa.
/r/seduction08/06/15 09:05 PM
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It's a lot easier to tell yourself you have high intellectual standards than to stick to them. I don't know you, but the majority of people do this the easier way, not the harder way.
/r/seduction08/06/15 01:54 AM
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it's not needy to want to kiss her and communicate it. that's not the kind of thing being "needy" in a relationships context refers to. if all you meant is you should say "kiss me first" instead of "you gotta kiss me first" then i would agree that's a little better in general. i can see that as a positive interpretation of what your point was, but i don't think you expressed it optimally if that's all you meant.
/r/seduction30/05/15 02:32 AM
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a disagreement i have is i think it's usually better to kiss her before she says she needs to go. that way you control events, instead of only kissing her in reaction to the stimulus of time for her to leave. it shows more confidence and control to take the initiative instead of waiting for the specific social situation of parting to justify a parting kiss. goodbye kisses are a helpful crutch, and it's fine to use them if you're newer or you didn't get a good opportunity earlier or she leaves be…
/r/seduction30/05/15 02:27 AM
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i think you have some good points. here is some of my perspective on part of what you're saying: lots of guys feel the need to give the girl the EXPLICIT option to decline sexual escalation. and this is encouraged by e.g. “anti-rape” feminists. if she says time to go, and you say “you gotta kiss me first”, you ARE NOT FORCING HER. she can decline. she still has the option to decline. i bet you she knows how to say “haha no thanks” or many other things. this applies to other stuff too. if you say…
/r/seduction30/05/15 02:25 AM
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stop thinking of yourself as a statistic and become an individual. run your own life and the statistics don't matter. be passive and then you'll be just another undifferentiated statistic. your problem is your fundamental philosophy of life, not anything about your looks. what you need to do is read Ayn Rand.
/r/seduction27/05/15 11:17 PM
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What didn't work was negging - I don't really have an issue with it but it just felt annoying i.e he grabs my hands compares them to his and then calls them manly - i have nice hands so i was just like wtf. But that was just my personal experience - i think often with girls like me it's actually not necessary - I like Magic's comments on this - girls like me are usually open and happy to talk to people because we rarely get hit on. I don't think he was doing negging right. Negging is supposed to…
/r/seduction01/05/15 10:08 PM
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attractive and also have an emotional and physical relationship with you can find that, but that is a totally different standard than the fantasy a dream girl normally refers to. it's the soulmate type stuff that is not realistic. but someone attractive who you get along with and can talk with is findable.
/r/seduction25/04/15 11:08 AM
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Either you dream small with medium level standards (something very stereotypical and common – and you look past the inevitable quirks that inevitably don't match your dream quirks) or yeah it's a unicorn search. I know many tells themselves they have high standards, and often also tell themselves they really did find their dream girl. You could succeed like that, but I think it's better to take the red pill, wake up, and stop fooling yourself. No offense to the OP, Guy10010, who sounds reasonabl…
/r/seduction25/04/15 07:16 AM
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Richard Feynman had a good approach: ask her if she'll sleep with you. Don't pay for anything before she's agreed to that. http://scilib.narod.ru/Physics/Feynman/SYJ/en/Joking.htm#TOC_id2528450 (the section is called "You Just Ask Them?" if the link doesn't take you to it correctly)
/r/seduction23/04/15 10:31 PM
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This stuff can be hard. Don't give up on her, it does sound somewhat more promising than I thought before. But really don't get too invested until after this stuff is cleared up. You sound like you're already more invested than I'd say is wise – you already seem hurt some and might get hurt a lot more. And this effort you've put into the relationship might get kinda wasted cuz she might just pick him or otherwise flake on you. she has lied to you. there's always risk but this is definitely a hig…
/r/seduction22/04/15 07:12 PM
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Society teaches people to be "nice", but a lot of what is taught, that everyone thinks of as "nice", is bad and unattractive. If you act how you're supposed to act, you get punished. Society has a moral code that you're punished, not rewarded, for following. This leads to a lot of frustrating where "bad" guys and "assholes" succeed, and moral nice people struggle. Friendly is OK but it isn't sexy and attractive. You can be friendly but you need to do other things too – and some good things to do…
/r/seduction21/04/15 10:14 PM
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Can work does not mean good effort/chance-of-rewards ratio.
/r/seduction21/04/15 10:06 PM
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say something that isn't completely generic and doesn't take away any opportunity for her to work for your approval and work to meet your standards. like, "hey that was pretty fun, but i got some SERIOUS plans for next time – think you can handle it?" or, "hey not bad, i think you earned another date." or, "it was fun when you did x [sex move, or something other than sex that stood out]" or, "good start. now i just have one question: do you prefer mcnuggets or tacos?" or "i had a good time with …
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:58 PM
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girls are not fragile. asking for her number is not creepy. if you won't express much interest, your relationship is going nowhere. girls just pretend to be fragile victims when hit on by guys they aren't into, or feminists lie girls are fragile. you are not actually going to hurt her and creep her out by trying to communicate with her. the literally worst case scenario is if she says anything unkind, she wasn't into you in the first place, and now you know. (but here you are acting like a beta …
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:51 PM
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99% of people who say they are abstinent as a lifestyle choice actually would like to have good sex, but are losers who can't get laid. that is the perception and perhaps also the reality. if you're really seriously Christian you can use that as an excuse – say you have more traditional values and try to find a girl who is the same way. but if you were really religious enough about this, you wouldn't be here asking if the thing your religion advocates was even possible. you aren't that religious…
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:42 PM
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It's you. Your problem is: I'm really friendly to everyone Try being more of an asshole.
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:37 PM
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i texted this girl the next day- "i had a good time!" she answered: "it wasn't too bad!" this was the first girl to ever say that haha, any thoughts? you wrote, "i feel so lucky to be with you" and she wrote back "hold up, you still have to earn me". that is not the dynamic you want. don't be a needy bitch with no self-esteem, who is nervous about every text. you'll lose her if you keep that up. and no in dating everything is not equal and fair and balanced and a two-way street. gender roles exi…
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:31 PM
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Get with 5 other girls. If she's jealous enough, and you're high value enough, you've got a shot. But don't do it because of her, do it for you. Learn your lesson and be the "bad" guy in the future.
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:26 PM
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you can compliment if it's natural and you mean it. your mindset should be: she lived up to your high standards, good for her, she earned a reward. don't go looking for compliments to hand out to please her.
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:06 PM
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Don't put him down for proudly learning something that puts him way above most of the population, and sharing it with the many many newbies that are reading (most of whom don't write comments). He's right. Great. Good for him. He didn't teach you something? OK, no big deal, go post in another thread.
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:02 PM
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Read Ayn Rand.
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:51 PM
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If she says she'll be late, you could text back that: no problem, the book you're reading is probably a more interesting conversationalist than her anyway ;)
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:47 PM
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knowing she'd be lucky to have you, and that you have a million other options, explain to her that she can dump him or be non-monogamous or else lose you, and wouldn't that be sad for her. and she is not perfect for you. you have a fantasy version of her in your head, which is perfect for you. she doesn't match it.
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:43 PM
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you tried a boring generic text the first time. now you don't have much to lose, so try something that will stand out more. you met her dancing and want to take her to coffee? no. tell her you know a great club, you're going with some friends, she can tag along. or send her a sexy dancing picture and say it reminded you of her. or text her at 2am and say "come over now. let's dance. [your address]". better than giving up, you might learn something.
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:38 PM
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you're male, right? don't wait for people to approach you. wear earbuds so you know that if you want to meet someone, you have to approach them. take them out when you approach others.
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:28 PM
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she's into you. do you know what will ruin that? talking with her about your lack of confidence. you need to frame it in your head that you were hot, she was hot, you got her number, there's good potential. you succeeded. you won. good job. chill out. if you have to direct your nervous energy somewhere, direct it to self-improvement – learn PUA techniques, find out the right way to handle conversations so you can do better next time.
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:25 PM
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text back that you're totally up for non-monogamy. await reply. try to say it in a clever way that fits your style, maybe like "thanks for the heads up, but we're compatible: i like non-mongamy too". (she's still worth the effort of a text. stick to your plan of getting with her, not her proposed alternative where you're her bitch. but do reply according to your plan. see what she says before just completely giving up. it might go better than you think. maybe she was testing you. maybe she wasn'…
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:19 PM
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24 is not very old. your frame is wrong. stop framing yourself as older. you are a young guy. the reason people don't like male virgins is not the virginity itself. it's the psychology you surround it with – feeling like a loser, lack of confidence, etc. which are why you didn't get laid when you were 18 or 15 either. so you're in the same situation as before, with the same solution: change your attitude. either start thinking of yourself more positively, or, if necessary, become a better person…
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:04 PM
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Yeah. The friend zone isn't a big deal if you have other options. It sucks if you want that one girl who friend zoned you. Do not try to trek through the friend zone to a relationship like a commenter below did. Do not think of your life as a play for her benefit. But having some girls as friends – if they are actual friends – is good.
/r/seduction21/04/15 07:59 PM
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Don't worry about it, don't get emotionally invested, don't trust her if she says she's over him. She seems to want romance before even a kiss, and to decide everything on day 0. She wants a marriage-track relationship, not a fun time. I'm guessing you don't want that, and don't want her drama. Move on. There are better options out there. Develop your PUA skills, meet other people, and you won't regret never seeing this one again. If you have no confidence and want to keep trying with this girl …
/r/seduction21/04/15 07:53 PM
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Ah, you played yourself ;p No worries, if you don't do that again, you're way ahead of most people!
/r/seduction21/04/15 07:35 PM
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No it's not necessarily a two way street. There are male and female roles – it's the man's job to lead, initiate, take charge. The female's role is to attract and please the man, and support his more active role. You are the boss, she is your secretary. Feminist call this a sexist idea and tell men to treat women equally. But it's more the women who need to change (start taking more initiative) before men can lead less. In the mean time, many women are not up for equality. Things often go more s…
/r/seduction21/04/15 07:33 PM
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If she isn't free on friday, and doesn't suggest a different day or give a super good excuse (like being out of the country that day), it's hard to tell if she's lying or it was actually a bad day. It's OK to risk that scenario if you want. It's not actually a big deal. But some people would really stress over it, wondering what happened. If you can pull it off, an alternative is to say like, "yeah. let's meet up for coffee. tell me 3 times that work for your schedule". "oh lucky for you, that 2…
/r/seduction21/04/15 10:42 AM
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do I ask her on a date and let her know my intensions, or take it slow hangout more and see how it develops? Neither. You just go on a date, without asking permission to date her. She doesn't know for sure if she wants to date you. Don't ask her to decide now, or wait and hope something happens later. Instead, show her you're a good person to date by making your meeting a good date. She's giving you an opportunity to attract her, without her having to commit to anything yet or face admitting to …
/r/seduction21/04/15 10:19 AM
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Stop worrying so much about pleasing her and just tell her to blow you.
/r/seduction21/04/15 10:10 AM
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You do want her, but don't need her. More specifically: you might want her, after getting to know her a bit, asking her a few questions to see if she meets your standards. But you don't need her because it's no big loss if she doesn't work out, you have other things going on in your life.
/r/seduction21/04/15 10:06 AM
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Your frame should be that your time is more valuable than hers. So don't avoid pauses to protect her time. And your frame should be that you're interesting. So however much silence happens, it beats the other guys, so she'll be thrilled there was only that little. The only way the other guys – who are less interesting – are going to have less silence is by filling it with desperate junk, which doesn't help.
/r/seduction21/04/15 10:00 AM
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What's truly soulless, trying to get what you want from a girl, for your own benefit, with no apologies for being male? (Without lying, there's no need to lie.) Or trying to keep her interest by sacrificing yourself in hopes of pleasing her, like most guys do?
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:53 AM
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"Look, before you get all girly and wonder when we're getting married, I just wanna be upfront and say my plan is to have a nice time and [see where it leads; probably move on to other women in a month since i have plenty of other options; whatever the truth is]". But calibrate it for your subculture, your style, something you can say to her. Just wanted to give a quick example, but probably a bad idea to copy it.
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:51 AM
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Well, you met her, I didn't. You could easily be completely right. But to me, it still sounds like she may just be shy rather than a bitch. Passive, rather than uninterested. I'm guessing she knows less about dating than you do, and is doing it wrong, rather than playing you on purpose. FWIW.
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:42 AM
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if she finds out your history, and you think it makes you a loser, there's a very high probability she will think so too. and if you get sympathy like "oh i feel so sorry for you", she won't be attracted, girls prefer to date a man not a victim. the best thing to do is don't mention it. in the long run, you should change your attitude. but for now, the main thing is: never make any excuse like, "i'm sorry i messed X up, i lack experience". don't have statements like that in your head, even if yo…
/r/seduction21/04/15 09:13 AM
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Don't leave the ball in her court. Find out what the right time is (e.g. by asking about her schedule), figure it out yourself, then tell her what time you will be doing what with her (if she still says no, move on). If you actually want her (it's partly your fault, so you don't have to be as negative about this as some commenters – and who really cares about her texting quality anyway), you can try again without expecting a girl to make a decision, if you want to. It's your job to figure out wh…
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:58 AM
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You got indicators of interest, and no real indicators of go-away. She's passive. Many girls are. If you want it to happen, control things yourself, that's the male role – be in charge, decide what you do with her. Her lack of initiative is not rejection. If you don't want her (cuz she's too annoying and a waste of time), fine, but if you do, that isn't a good reason to give up – just have some confidence and stop trying to put her in charge of decisions. She's probably mad at you right now for …
/r/seduction21/04/15 08:49 AM
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the best way to get confidence is to be a top notch person and know it. improve yourself until you're fucking amazing and know any girl would be lucky to get with you. you're nervous because you aren't that great and they might notice.
/r/seduction21/04/15 04:41 AM
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you have to have things go well before you start the movie so it's a natural continuation. once the movie is on, and she's sitting separate from you, you can't go from 0 to 60 b/c the movie prevents a lot of talking to get things going. have things already going well, start the movie already touching her instead of separate, with kino interactions already having happened, then they can continue fine.
/r/seduction21/04/15 04:38 AM
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you can give her a second chance by e.g. inviting her to a group thing you were going to go to anyway, a week later. or after a while, text her something flirty/sexual and vague. if she asks details, shows interest, continue conversation. if not, move on.
/r/seduction21/04/15 04:28 AM
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get it out of your head that she's especially fragile and act normal. if you treat her as out of reach, she will be. if you use normal calibration, it works the same as with someone else.
/r/seduction21/04/15 04:24 AM
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