darkestpartofday Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
15	This society failed average men.	Free For All Discussion	darkestpartofday	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 05:58 PM
2	Looksmaxxing (soft)	Blackpill Discussion	darkestpartofday	/r/AllPillDebate	11/08/23 10:23 PM

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2	Women are not attracted to genuinely kind men regardless of how attractive they are Most of them are very unkind, in not mean. Yeah, I've heard that, they come off as mean cause they don't understand social cues. But at the same time they have a strong sense of morals, are generally more honest and are more likely to be selfless. NT people can be often weirded out by that behaviors.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 11:04 PM
0	Women are not attracted to genuinely kind men regardless of how attractive they are Nice guys just aren’t masculine, socially dominant, assertive/aggressive like women want Many women who aren't dark triad themselves don't think about masculinity the way that men do. Women get with non-masculine men all the time too. However, being nice feels insincere, while being dominant and assertive feels trustworthy and secure. If you want to portray it that way that women prefer masculine qualities, you can do it, but I think you're missing the nuances that way. I see it more like that w…	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 10:31 PM
2	Women are not attracted to genuinely kind men regardless of how attractive they are Women don’t like nice guys bc those aren’t traits that they’re attracted to. Well, what's your reasoning then? I said the same thing, women do not like nice guys. I think that's cause nice guys come off as sketchy and untrustworthy. Dark triad psychopaths at the contrary can be very charming and make women feel secure and infatuated around them without being overly nice. I honestly don't see what our disagreement is.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 10:11 PM
0	This is all my knowledge from dozens of Hinge dates I've been on. I wish I could have told my younger self this. would ask first then "ewwww you're so unconfident" gets an ick and dies on the spot Kissing without consent Well, you don't have to go for a kiss if the vibe is off. It wouldn't hurt to make sure beforehand she's fine with some flirting, gentle touching (in non-sexual way), and handholding. Also, if it feels she's not reciprocative of your advances, you can just back off. It's better to be awkward then come off as unconfident cause you didn't try or kiss someone against their will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 09:48 PM
2	Why do so many incels hate gay people? hating lesbians makes sense Why would I hate lesbians, they don't hate men as much as hetero women. why hate gay men I don't see any reasons except for maybe some of them hating modern liberal agenda in general.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 09:12 PM
4	Women are not attracted to genuinely kind men regardless of how attractive they are Jfl what the fuck don't even agree with? Average redpill degenerate.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 09:01 PM
2	Women are not attracted to genuinely kind men regardless of how attractive they are People don't like nice people in general. If you're too nice, then you're probably fake, not relatable. It works the same way with women approaching guys first. Guys (unless they're chad) get really suspicious cause the girl is acting too nice for no reason. Their experience tells them it must be some kind of a joke. Female experience with nice guys is quite the same. Most women had a guy who was nice until they rejected him and then he freaked out or even a guy who was nice only to get laid and…	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 08:42 PM
1	High-Tier-Normies are overrated in the black pill community Aside from the frauding that will easily get exposed I'll stop height frauding the moment ugly women stop wearing makeup jfl. It's not so easy to expose, and even if you're exposed, just own it, you wouldn't have a chance without frauding and lying anyway.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 07:51 PM
2	High-Tier-Normies are overrated in the black pill community Despite that, I’m not seeing much of a difference Cause nobody can see your abs when you wear clothes. But being lean is the best you can do. I actually thought about nichemaxing by having the “pretty boy” archetype Yeah, it can be the best choice considering your height. Hope you have good enough hair to pull that style. Also, you can find styles that are more niche within one archetype. Like, if a basic pretty boy look doesn't suit your features, you can try to go for more alt, preppy, nerdy, …	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 07:45 PM
3	What's the story here? How's he pulling attractive women left and right? Even if he's 5'11 he could tell everyone he's 6'0 and be fine.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 07:29 PM
0	High-Tier-Normies are overrated in the black pill community Shoe lifts, high platforms, lie about your height. Play dirty, nobody will cut you some slack for not being chad. Some people from looksmax org even reported that styling your hair upwards can make you percieved taller by everyone around. As I said, with each inch you're taller than 5'7, it gets harder to notice you're frauding your height.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 07:08 PM
3	What's the story here? How's he pulling attractive women left and right? You mean if he had less attractive face? Yeah, I think so. Gym and style only work for you if you're somewhat attractive naturally. He wouldn't be really ugly tho, due to being tall, stylish and fit.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 07:02 PM
3	High-Tier-Normies are overrated in the black pill community I really feel the part about unattractive girls. You feel like the worst hypocrite when you feel bad about girls chasing chad and rejecting you, and then you reject mentally fucked up and ugly girls the same way. But I think we got some advantage. If you're a HTN, you're a perfect candidate for looksmaxxing and nichemaxxing. Sometimes it's enough to so something as simple as rhinoplasty to ascend for people like us. If you're taller than 5'7, using shoe lifts and/or high platform shoes won't eve…	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 06:42 PM
6	What's the story here? How's he pulling attractive women left and right? Like, he's tall, good physique, thugmaxxed a bit, extroverted. He's obviously a high tier normie who has put some work into making himself attractive to women, especially the type of women he interviews.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 06:29 PM
7	What's the story here? How's he pulling attractive women left and right? Fairly average? Bruh, he's a high tier normie obviously. It's harder for him than for chad, but far from impossible. He also can cherry pick the moments when he approaches the girl successfully on his videos.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 06:20 PM
0	What’s more psychologically damaging; a guy being put into the friend zone or a woman being put into the fuck zone? I don't see the point to stay in a one-sided friendship where your feelings are not reciprocated and you are being used for sex or validation. I wouldn't ever stay friends with someone who rejected me. Well, one time I did, but she's just a great friend and I didn't want to lose her (also we gave it a try before she rejected me and I kinda saw it didn't work and lost my feelings too). Otherwise, no. I can't speak for women and fuckzone, but staying friends with someone who's just using you to ge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 05:54 PM
5	How the redpill maintains its relevance There are no shy chads with self-esteem issues. There are. They still get laid. They still get invited somewhere. They're usually having harem anime experience irl, while complaining about being lonely. Being shy, lacking confidence or desire to socialize is a result of being bullied and rejected, and the number one reason for bullying is looks. Also being neurodivergent or coming from unstable household can contribute. This is the way how a chad can grow up introverted and shy.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 05:39 PM
0	If there's one thing you wished Bluepillers and / or women could understand about you, what would it be? does the insecurity come from not knowing where you stand or the fact that the position you’re in is not guaranteed and that a single action can make others stop treating you with dignity? I think the latter. I don't know where I stand in terms of masculinity and, honestly, I don't even care, I can adjust my behavior anyway. But I don't feel like my masculinity is constantly being challenged, therefore I'm secure. I guess these men see every interaction with others as a masculinity test of some …	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 04:42 PM
3	If there's one thing you wished Bluepillers and / or women could understand about you, what would it be? That looks are very much your personality and it's not something bad or superficial, it's just the way things work. I'm not being shallow when I say it, you're a hypocrite if you deny it. It doesn't make you a bad person if you care about your partner's looks or status, everyone does. (Men who don't care about status and marry for looks usually end up losing their posessions. Should've date someone more equal.) Your past matters. You shouldn't trust someone who cheated on their previous partner.…	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 04:36 PM
1	If there's one thing you wished Bluepillers and / or women could understand about you, what would it be? Emasculation basically feels like being embarrassed that you're not masculine enough. As a man I never really got this, since I don't really care about the ways society tries to manipulate me. But for example, if I failed to protect my girlfriend, I'd probably feel guilty and kinda emasculated. In a way you're right, but at the same time many men have very fragile sense of masculinity (while it can sound emasculating to them, it is what it is). Women and other men often use this fact to manipula…	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 04:18 PM
-1	What’s more psychologically damaging; a guy being put into the friend zone or a woman being put into the fuck zone? Yeah, it's their problem right until the moment you're suddenly known as the bad guy/girl within your social circle. They'll just come up with some bullshit like "he's a mysoginist and he just wants to use women for sex, he probably tried to use our friendship to get in my pants" or "she's a crazy bitch, we were just having fun and suddenly she's trying to manipulate me into making it a relationship, but she sleeps around with everyone anyway". I mean, it's not the reason not to leave these zone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 03:56 PM
1	This is all my knowledge from dozens of Hinge dates I've been on. I wish I could have told my younger self this. I might be an outlier but it’s definitely something to consider. Do not try and get rejected as uninterested enough or try to go for it and take no for an answer in a worst case scenario? I think the choice is obvious for most. I actually hate getting too touchy with strangers too fast, but it seems like being that way just works better if you're a guy. I think I definitely missed many opportunities by not doing that when I think about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 08:25 AM
7	What’s more psychologically damaging; a guy being put into the friend zone or a woman being put into the fuck zone? you can be there only by your own will You don't choose to be there, you choose to stay there after they put you there or to leave (the right option). Zones are very much real and pretending they're not is ignoring reality. Nothing prevents you to look for somebody else. Except for the other person being offended by you telling them they're not entitled to your friendship or your body, especially if you actually wanted it to be something more (you'll be the bad person in everyone's eyes if you s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 08:06 AM
5	Almostpill This seems worse than if you were ugly. At least if you were ugly you would know that you're screwed As a high tier normie you've described, cut out this bullshit, please. I would never, never would choose to be uglier than I am now. Yes, I'm not a chad, that's true, but at least women (and people in general) see me as a human. They even often think I'm attractive (apparently not attractive enough to have a "personality" as great as chad's, but I don't mind). Almostpill= a life of being passed o…	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 02:00 AM
1	Has the whole encouraging "roping yourself" always been a thing in incel circles? I think that blackpill and morality aren't really compatible, you know. If you're blackpilled enough, then you know that morality is just a means to achieve things that you want. It's not always something dishonest, like, people agreeing not to kill each other is profitable for everyone, right? But why would anyone who thinks like that would care about lives of some internet strangers? Telling someone to ropemaxx is kinda funny, it's dark humor. Nobody will ever take their own life cause of a jo…	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 01:41 AM
1	This society failed average men. Well, even if it is, I don't believe that this is right. I dream that one day society won't turn their backs on average and ugly males. We don't even need some kind of "inkwell month" (tho I don't mind having this one), we just want to be heard and want our struggles to be taken seriously.	/r/AllPillDebate	27/08/23 12:47 AM
1	Do you think men's fashion really matters in attraction? I think it really depends on your style. Pulling a casual, sporty, streetwear or any other low-effort look requires having attractive genetic features. But if you try high-effort styles like classic, alt, softboy, old money (which is basically more casual classic), etc. you can somewhat improve your attractiveness and also express your personality through your clothes, which can help when you meet new people in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 05:35 PM
1	This society failed average men. I mean, an average male who wasn't born in a wealthy family realistically won't be a CEO or a president either. I was talking more in a sense that society generally supports women who try to achieve something. But yeah, I see that from female perspective all this encouragement actually doesn't mean shit when actual women's issues are ignored. But at the same time, achieving something for men is just a way to become someone society will respect even a little bit and most likely nobody will suppor…	/r/AllPillDebate	26/08/23 10:13 AM
2	This society failed average men. how can anyone tell how attractive you are online? By looking at your face. you won’t be accused of harassment in all likelihood if you don’t persist It's not about the likelihood, it's about their mindset. They are afraid of making women sad by showing they're sexual beings. Fantasies about being sued for violation after you said hi to a woman are just what these poor people imagine will happen. female friends ended up with guys with some of the hobbies i mentioned Probably none of them thought…	/r/AllPillDebate	26/08/23 06:06 AM
2	Relationship with Women is difficult because you can't be human I think the problem is stupid people in general. Women who treat you like that definitely don't see you as a human being due to their insecurities and lack of empathy. And what kind of people loves chasing superficial status markers (height, luxury items, being strong) and lacks empathy for others? - Right, the dumb ones. I mean, they're not insanely stupid, their life strategy often turns out to be pretty effective, but still, they're kinda regarded in the way they view the life. In my experien…	/r/AllPillDebate	26/08/23 05:40 AM
2	This society failed average men. how is it criminal for young men to do this? You probably think about young attractive men (top 20%), not about an average young male. Imagine an average male acting cute or flirty online, he gets labeled as a creep or a weirdo immediately (sorry for accidental radiohead reference, didn't mean it). Assuming they don't do actually creepy things, I think this discourages men from expressing themselves completely in ways which might be considered sexual or feminine by society. That's why we have a …	/r/AllPillDebate	26/08/23 04:50 AM
1	Do you guys really think that a broke college student age 18-24 is the same as a broke minimum wage worker over the age of 34? He's attacking the wrong person here. If a 30+ female minimal wage worker rejected him for the same reason, you could call her arrogant or delusional at least. But I don't see any reason why you should want to participate in such an unequal relationship. However, I honestly think that dating up is no better. You're not being lucky for dating someone out of your league. You'll just probably be used in some way you don't even realize yet, cause the power dynamics isn't on your side.	/r/AllPillDebate	26/08/23 01:21 AM
1	How to attract loads of women Well, they are obviously good, but extremely hard to achieve. By the way, I don't really know if there's a purpose in sleeping around as much as you can. You'll lose ability to pair bond, you'll lose feeling of intimacy from sex, it'll be hard for you to stay monogamous, there are only downsides from this lifestyle, but hey, at least incels seethe and think you're a chad, right. I wish there were any easy ways to find a quality ltr partner. But I'm afraid it's based on pure luck.	/r/AllPillDebate	26/08/23 12:50 AM
2	How to attract loads of women You forgot about ascending by surgerymaxxing. Also some extreme downshifting might help. Hooking up with junkie girls who need a fix, things like that.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 11:30 PM
–	Can y’all stop telling each other what both genders are attracted too? I've been told I'm attractive by women who were not attracted to me enough to have a relationship with me. When they did, they started to talk about how great my personality is. I think it might be a virtue signaling thing. If she kinda likes you but you're not really her type or just wants a quick hookup, she'll tell you you look good directly, cause there's no strings attached. Now, if she really likes you, she will try to rationalize her attraction, while seeing you as a perfect being. Also s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 11:16 PM
2	50-50 doesn't work because men actually have to do more than the woman in order for the relationship to survive Most men probably dont want to be in your uncles situation. Im not looking for a dumb as rocks ward. If they are happy to then power to them but for most people its probably not going to work. Right. That'll work until you're in a situation where you really need your girlfriend/wife to actually do something for you. And she either refuses or is just unable to fulfill your request.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 10:25 PM
4	50-50 doesn't work because men actually have to do more than the woman in order for the relationship to survive Trying to always do precisely 50-50 is kinda toxic. Do you treat your friends that way? Or your family? So why would you treat your partner like that, it's kinda dehumanizing tbh, as if you constantly doubt your partner and think they're just waiting for an opportunity to backstab you or use you somehow. But at the same time unequal relationships are toxic too. I think the only way is to be there for your partner when they need you, but expect the same back. That includes doing more than 50/50 s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 10:15 PM
4	This society failed average men. Women think that only 20% of men are above average. That means that your average male is sub5 to women. Also, it's about double standards. Only chad is allowed to express himself. Average male is frowned upon unless he is invisible. If a man talks about his experience out loud, he's instantly called an incel MRA alt-right tate fan mysoginist, even if a guy is being respectful.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 09:49 PM
2	"Gentle femdom" is a copefuel fantasy created by broken men who watch too much anime It also deludes broken men into thinking their flaws will be passed by women, which we all know is a bunch of horse shit. Well, if you're attractive enough... By the way, I think that their biggest problem is fetishization. They could probably go for average girls who are fine with being in an equal relationship. That way they could probably ask their girls to take the lead sometimes. But trying to find some girl who likes this dynamics so much she'll be okay with induging your fetish 24/7 is se…	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 08:58 PM
7	Why don't women support Polygyny/harems? Is it due to jealousy I think it is. I've seen women who were dating a chad that was fucking other women. But I've rarely (never to be exact) met women who admitted that they'd like to share their man with someone else. I think that ultimately most women want to be "the one and only" for a chad. Chad harems are a thing only because chad never wants to settle for one average becky.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 08:27 PM
2	Brutal Approachpill: You cant complain when a women accused you for rape when you approached them. The guys who are saying these things aren't probably that ugly, so the risk for them is kinda low. They just get rejected politely and that's all. They don't get that many women percieve ugly guys approaching them as an insult and borderline violation. So I would say you're right, but only you're truly a sub5. Normies still have a chance.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 08:17 PM
2	Brutal Approachpill: You cant complain when a women accused you for rape when you approached them. You're confusing real and moral imperative. Moral imperative is "You can not accuse a man of violation if he only approaches you, even if he's ugly". Real imperative is "You can accuse any man of violation if you don't like him, and you can probably convince someone that you were the victim even if he didn't viotlate you". We're talking about how it should be, not how it will happen in real life. Your post is promoting that real imperative should be also the moral imperative. We don't agree with…	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 08:09 PM
0	How do you reject guys you aren't interested in? Rejection isn’t an insult unless someone makes it one. It can feel as an insult anyway. This person thinks that you're not enough for them, and it takes time and experience to become mature about it and don't blame the person OR yourself. But I see your point now and I think you're right. Though you have to face pain from rejection anyway before you come to the same conclusion as yours.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 07:57 PM
1	Most men should know about the tell signs of what makes a women a slut and partner count. Source: their words? You know that if a woman is less sexually open, then she's more likely to lie about her bodycount? I think these studies prove exactly this point and nothing more. edit: Yeah, they also prove that women with tattoos are probably more extroverted therefore are more open about their lives, but that's kinda obvious anyway.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 07:47 PM
2	Brutal Approachpill: You cant complain when a women accused you for rape when you approached them. He probably means that literally throwing the accusation at an ugly guy for approaching someone is overreacting, no matter how much a woman is disturbed.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 07:40 PM
4	How do you reject guys you aren't interested in? I see you had to face a lot of pain in your life. It's good for you that you've found ways to overcome it, but I don't think that means that your experience with rejection isn't really painful or "not a big deal". I agree there are things that are much worse than rejection, but I don't see the point to downplay it as something unimportant. People don't need to stop feeling bad about being rejected, they need to learn to manage their emotions about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 07:28 PM
1	This society failed average men. We haven't had a competent respectable father as a main character on TV in a while. To be fair, we have less and less quality female role models as well. And I'm not talking exclusively about mother figures that aren't just an accessory for their incompetent husband. Even strong female characters got more flat and poorly written. I think the actual problem here is bad writing, they just can't make a father character to be somewhat competent and funny at the same time.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 07:19 PM
7	How do you reject guys you aren't interested in? Rejection rly isn’t that big of a deal Tell me you've never faced rejection without telling me. But yeah, being weird about being rejected is stupid, moving on is so much easier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 07:08 PM
3	The scorned post wall women’s “groomer” narrative attempting to spin men’s preference for younger as predatory has created an unprecedented focus on age and indoctrinated younger women and society in general to practice ageist behavior they previously wouldn’t As I young person, I see this as a good thing. Dating market is shit due to amount of older wealthier men who are hitting on the girls of my age. I hope all redpill copers will have to settle for their 30+ looksmatch instead of betabuxxing young stacies. That would improve things a lot for the guys like me.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 06:55 PM
12	This society failed average men. They just don't take showers, bro, I swear. Btw, if an unattractive guy smiles too much, he's seen as a soft loser. If he doesn't smile at all, he's moody and creepy. There's no win here.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 06:48 PM
1	This society failed average men. If they were really looking down on male hobbies the bass pro shop wouldn't be so awesome. Never had a cookout or fish fry after a hunt people didn't come to. And women are making the sides while we drink beer and run the grill/fryer/smoker. Well, personal relationships can often differ from the whole picture. I've seen many exceptions to what I say, yet the general trend stays. If everyone treated fishing as a totally normal hobby, how would a "tinder fish picture" meme be a real thing? There a…	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 06:42 PM
2	Dismissing the blackpill as "Skill issue" , "Get good" = Promoting PUA. Inceltear does this alot and is a redpill sub.. Even if women would date for personality, there's no way to develop a new one. You can improve yourself, but you can't change your past experience and who you are at your core. Continuing the analogy, you can bullshit your way through a job interview somehow and even convince the HR you have a CS degree. But the moment they realize you actually don't know shit and have no education, it's over for you. Good thing they don't really care about something so shallow like who you are as a person.	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 06:14 PM
0	The whole worship of women has now extended to women pretending to be gay/bisexual to further hype them up. Now you constantly see comments and memes by women about how “hot” other women are in a sexual tone, it’s really irritating especially considering gay men are still heavily stigmatized Women are just easier to like, both for men and women. If a woman is young and acts cute/sexy and feminine, she will be seen as adorable/hot by both men and women. Women trust other women more than men, also learning to objectify your body is a part of female gender socialization, and when you learn to do that you can't help but treat other women's bodies this way (you can kinda notice the same thing with gymbros acting very gay to each other and complimenting each other's bodies). That's why wo…	/r/AllPillDebate	25/08/23 05:37 PM
3	What is stopping men from finding the blackpill? Does blackpill even make women look bad? Men are as shallow, but their supply on the sexual market exceeds the demand by women, so an average male is unwanted. Chads act shallow too, dating and stringing along multiple women. Average man just can't afford that.	/r/AllPillDebate	24/08/23 06:25 AM
3	A post i saw on the sub of my country about girls dating multiple guys Redpill ideas are blackpill pipeline, unless you were pretty attractive right from the start, so the problem was your personality. Average unattractive guy trying to act redpill just makes a clown of himself. When they realize that, they either go back to the bluepill or get blackpilled. But as faith in the bluepill continues to fade in society as a whole, eventually they won't even have a choice to go back.	/r/AllPillDebate	23/08/23 08:48 PM
0	You notice any time a dude thinks a girl might be interested he is immediately told “sHe WaS pRoBaBLy jUsT bEiNg NiCe” as if it’s never even considered as a possibility? Anything is a possibility, unless we're talking about extremely unattractive people. The only true way to find out is asking the girl what did she mean by that thing she said/did. Of course she could lie, but in reality she'll probably either tell you she was just being friendly or will give you the hint by answering in a flirty way.	/r/AllPillDebate	23/08/23 04:52 PM
2	It's really not that complicated. Looks are often an indicator of good developmental, hormonal, and general biological health, as form follows function Yes, that's true. Looks also can display your social status and give a general idea of your personality. It's mostly about style, but some health related details can indicate higher social status as well (white teeth, good physique, smooth skin, healthy hair, etc). So, "looks = personality" is not even an exaggeration in a way.	/r/AllPillDebate	23/08/23 04:24 PM
2	It's really not that complicated. Its funny you use this example, as most bluepillers imo are left leaning That's exactly what bugs me the most. Like, people like them are constantly talking about helping the poor, helping the minorities, but bullying autistic or short or ugly men who struggle with dating seems perfectly fine from their perspective. They say that patriarchy hurts men too. But when they actually see men being hurt by patriarchal standards (be tall, be strong, be rich, be emotionally unavailable, if you're alone o…	/r/AllPillDebate	23/08/23 03:55 PM
4	It's really not that complicated. attractive bluepillers that simply pretend that their looks didn't give them a massive edge in the dating market and that "everyone can succeed with a good personality" It's literally what they're told by women, who are afraid to come off as shallow. They will stick to it, cause they don't wanna believe that their "rizz" or "personality" have never mattered at all. Just like a rich kid thinks that everybody around him could achieve the things he did, but they're just too stupid and lazy. Nobody …	/r/AllPillDebate	23/08/23 12:47 PM
7	It's really not that complicated. It sounds like bluepillers admit that the way you look matters, but at the same time try to downplay its impact (and also give you semi-false hope that you're fully in control of how attractive you look).	/r/AllPillDebate	23/08/23 12:37 PM
2	Anyone else think Gosling nailed Margot Robbie and Ana De Armas no question? Even if he did, why would anyone give a shit? Two (or more) adults consentually fucking each other is probably the most tame thing that has ever happened in Hollywood.	/r/AllPillDebate	23/08/23 12:28 PM
2	Men: we think on a higher level than women. Also men: I absolutely must date a supermodel. Redpillers are mostly schizo copers, I wouldn't take anything they say seriously. And I think there's only a minority of incels who don't date due to the fact they only want top women. Most men literally have no options in dating. Anything they say is a cope. They will chase any girl who is interested in them. If they won't, they're not average.	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 11:41 PM
14	r/InkwellTear: “Inkwells are racist bro! — also r/InkwellTear: Well, it's a well known fact that IncelTear subreddit are mostly incels in denial. They're being racist and then they say incels are racist, I see no contradiction here. (yeah, it could've landed better if they were simps saying racist stuff, not women)	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 11:16 PM
3	People who believe in the theory of the "Just world" are some of the most evil human beings out there. At least she didn't gave a chance to these 5'7 creeps with recessed chin. It could end far worse, imagine if it tried to touch her hand...	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 10:09 PM
0	People who believe in the theory of the "Just world" are some of the most evil human beings out there. Sometimes they're deeply hurt too and desperately need some justification for all that happened. I've met a girl who said she were almost SA'd, but she claimed it was her fault since she needed to be more suspicious about the guy she was going on a date with. Ultimately, she had no certain way to know his intentions and she took a risk (a very reasonable risk, going on a date is not getting into a stranger's car or something) . But it's comforting for her to think that she deserved the thing tha…	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 08:47 PM
1	Male feminist, white Knights, Simps explained I think it's okay to acknowledge the problems women have, until you start shitting on your own gender to get validation from women. You don't really solve any problems that way, you contribute to them, and women are well aware of it and don't trust these "nice guys" at all. It's better to be open and sincere about your wants and needs, thoughts and feelings, even if they can be unpleasant for women to hear (and I don't mean being disrespectful, I mean not being a simp or trying to come off as an…	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 08:38 PM
1	Men: we think on a higher level than women. Also men: I absolutely must date a supermodel. Women who are saying men only want to date top tier women are either projecting hard, or talking about chad. It's almost never the case. Most women search for perfect man. Most men search for any women who will reciprocate. It's simple. It's not a universal truth though, some men have standards, some women settle down.	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 08:13 PM
1	Most female sufferings come from their worship of Chad Their standards for loneliness are just higher, so are their standards for men. Average man is looking for any girl who'd like to be with him. Average woman is looking for a perfect man for her. If she can't find or secure the perfect man, then she's lonely asf.	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 08:04 PM
1	Most female sufferings come from their worship of Chad because your dad did not teach you how to be respected in your own eyes. Unpopular opinion, but I think that the problem is often the mom. When you talk about raising boys, that's one thing, but girls should be taught self-respect by their mothers, not by their dads. If you really look closely, you'll see that daughters are often the same as their mothers in many ways. Btw, another hot take, when people are talking about "fatherless" behavior, they're talking about behavior taught by single mom,…	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 08:01 PM
4	Nothing boils my blood like sex-havers complaining about porn Tldr: porn is ruining sex for people cause people are dumb and believe everything they see I guess talking with your partner is the only working solution. Maybe some women prefer deep and hard thrusts instead of oral, how would you know unless you ask? I think communication is the most important part that is almost never mentioned in porn (except some amateur clips maybe, but even those are scripted and/or have people who communicated beforehand a lot). Real sex can often be kinda awkward.	/r/AllPillDebate	22/08/23 07:50 PM
4	One of the most frustrating things with inceldom is you have to sit through the shitty advice of these "self help gurus" pretending that they are so enlightening Why do you bring racial dynamics into this? If you want a racial analogy, it's like a white guy telling a black guy he has never experienced racism, so that probably means that the black guy did something wrong if someone acted racist to him. Do you see how absurd this is? It's kind of sad to see. Then don't read posts on this sub, it's actually quite simple.	/r/AllPillDebate	21/08/23 04:37 PM
4	If you have female friends but never had a relationship, it's proof of the blackpill and your looks are at fault they're not friendships. These women prefer to paint it that way. But I agree, since I have female friends who are nothing like that.	/r/AllPillDebate	21/08/23 04:13 PM
8	If you have female friends but never had a relationship, it's proof of the blackpill and your looks are at fault rants about low self esteem is shitting on some random guys on incel subreddit Femcel, sweaty, calm down. I know these attractive guys are feminine and insecure in your eyes only cause they don't wanna have anything serious with you. By the way, fix your self-esteem and mental health first. You don't sound very feminine either. You should be more agreeable if you want these manly masculine men to like you.	/r/AllPillDebate	21/08/23 04:11 PM
8	If you have female friends but never had a relationship, it's proof of the blackpill and your looks are at fault Friendships with women often feel very one-sided as a male. And I'm saying it while still having female friends, but they aren't like that at all. But many women treat their male friends as boyfriends with no benefits. They would expect you to help them and support them without giving any support back. I've heard stories (in real life) about some guys who literally risked their lives because their female friends asked them to.	/r/AllPillDebate	21/08/23 04:00 PM
2	All the pills are cults made to prey on emotionally vulnerable men Well, I've met some women who were exactly the way pills describe them. But most of them were ok, just like any other people. Still, thinking that women are perfect angels could mess up your life too. I think it's good to be aware of the pills than not, cause there's some truth to them. Just be reasonable about it and don't assume much before you know the woman better.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 09:40 PM
1	There are a lot of guys who agree with the blackpill but don't show it out of fear of being called an inkwell or misogynist. millions of people pay to listen to it I bet they're not mostly women. incels who are fun to be around because they express their grievances with humor Yeah, men like being around funny losers who provide free entertainment. And women like to hang out with their ugly female friends for free validation. Same logic. By the way, I think having defeatist mentality and being annoying around people sucks. But volunteering as a jester for chads and normies sucks too.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 09:28 PM
3	All the pills are cults made to prey on emotionally vulnerable men it encourages a defeatist mentality Only if you see it that way. And the more you learn about blackpill the more you learn about ways to actually make yourself more attractive. I think it's much better to be a looksmaxxed normie than a sub5.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 09:25 PM
2	There are a lot of guys who agree with the blackpill but don't show it out of fear of being called an inkwell or misogynist. I never said being nice makes you less attractive. What I said, being nice doesn't really matter when you're already attractive enough. And if you're not attractive, being nice can get you picked on, but so can being an asshole. If you're unattractive, you'll get picked on anyway, it doesn't matter which way you act.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 07:57 AM
5	There are a lot of guys who agree with the blackpill but don't show it out of fear of being called an inkwell or misogynist. I wish I was. I'm blackpilled not cause I've read something on internet and believed it. I lived it myself and I've known attractive people who were total assholes, both male and female. Their personalities and attitude didn't stop them from getting lots of attention. Of course they weren't openly hateful and unpleasant to be around, but when you're close to them you get to know what kind of people they truly are. I think your experience might be different cause you're probably older than me. Pe…	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 07:33 AM
4	There are a lot of guys who agree with the blackpill but don't show it out of fear of being called an inkwell or misogynist. In my experience they don't correlate. Being successful depends on how attractive you are and being respectful to women depends on your moral values. Being respectful can make you more attractive to some, but other women prefer bad boy attitude, so at the end it doesn't even matter.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 06:41 AM
5	"Just talk to w*men bro" No amount of reading psl forums can compare to experiencing blackpill in real life on your own. It's another level of brutal.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 06:34 AM
24	Just “went outside” Oh, sweaty, you just went the wrong outside. When I walk outside, I see sub5 bald ethnic 5'4 men with stacies all around.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 06:26 AM
0	There are a lot of guys who agree with the blackpill but don't show it out of fear of being called an inkwell or misogynist. you can get away with expressing any uncomfortable opinion if the delivery of it is hilarious. Only if you're attractive enough in the first place. If you're pretty enough you even can openly spew hateful bullshit and you'll find many people to support you. And if you're not, jestermaxxing will either make you look like a clown or will get you hated by everyone. You know, that moment when an ugly guy jokes about how ugly he is and then there's an awkward silence afterwards. That's what happens.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 06:10 AM
9	There are a lot of guys who agree with the blackpill but don't show it out of fear of being called an inkwell or misogynist. way further than needed Way further than it's socially acceptable to admit. Pretty people, ugly people and people who had a glowup are the ones who realize the impact of looks. Not only incels.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 06:04 AM
7	There are a lot of guys who agree with the blackpill but don't show it out of fear of being called an inkwell or misogynist. if they feel they are at risk of saying things that will make people think they are misogynists I'm not a misogynist, but many hot guys are openly misogynist and have zero problems getting laid. If a woman hates you for being misogynist, it's not about the things you said, it's probably about your attractiveness.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 05:57 AM
8	There are a lot of guys who agree with the blackpill but don't show it out of fear of being called an inkwell or misogynist. even if hes a virgin they assume he does Yeah, it's brootal. Chad can literally say he got no game and got no hoes and nobody will believe him. And even if they believe him, they won't ever call him an inkwell, they'll probably admire how pure and innocent he is.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 05:48 AM
1	Redpillers don’t care about men Yeah, they justify it by tough love and shit, probably cause they didn't know any better in their lives. I feel like it only works on men who are insecure about their masculinity and are used to be treated like shit. That's why so many redpill coaches thrive on average males. Blackpill is a truth that is too harsh to swallow for them. That would mean they got treated like shit for no reason and that would be too hard to accept.	/r/AllPillDebate	20/08/23 05:28 AM
1	What's everyone's take on this? I never considered myself traditionally masculine. I know that their ideal traditional men in fact have never existed. I don't actually care about my gender performance and don't care if I act feminine, masculine or anything in between. But I feel like you either have this "traditional" mindset or you don't, and it's not about just being tough. Live and let live doesn't fit this mindset. Also sometimes people can be somewhat hypocritical about this (e. g. "I don't hate X I just don't want my kid…	/r/AllPillDebate	19/08/23 03:16 PM
1	What's everyone's take on this? Yet you see, I think traditional masculinity includes looking down on less masculine people (as much as traditional femininity includes being agreeable and dependant on someone). Yes, we can call it toxic masculinity and try to redefine masculinity. But these men who promote being masculine in a non-toxic way are still viewing being not masculine as something inferior. You can't actually be traditionally masculine unless deep down you share many of these redpill ideas. It's a package deal. You'r…	/r/AllPillDebate	18/08/23 09:05 PM
1	We as a society really need to stop overrating women So, he's basically a chad and couldn't look any better, gotcha. That's probably the reason why the original post said this guy was lucky to get a cute girlfriend. You know, meeting a woman that likes them is such a rare occurrence for that handsome type of guys. Either you're extremely bluepilled or you don't have any sense of beauty whatsoever. This guy could definitely do better, even despite his genetics.	/r/AllPillDebate	18/08/23 08:33 PM
2	We as a society really need to stop overrating women You're absolutely delusional if you're telling this dude is looksmaxxed. Like, "you should just smile more and be confident" level of delusional. He's not even trying. Piercing/tattoos aren't the requirement, I just said any casual accessories would look fine, these are just the extreme cases. And even then, his hairstyle and clothes are absolutely abysmal and make him look like an inkie (combined with his acne). And about plastic surgery, I really think his looks would benefit greatly from rhin…	/r/AllPillDebate	18/08/23 11:58 AM
2	We as a society really need to stop overrating women I think we all perceive the woman more attractive than the guy cause the guy isn't really looksmaxxed, while looksmaxxing and looks frauding (makeup) is a cultural norm for women. Like, the guy has some good masculine features, imagine him fixing his skin problems, whitening his teeth, getting a fluffy pretty boy haircut, wearing a stylish oversized t without a goofy print (to look like he has a bigger frame) and also some accessories like a chain or even a piercing/tattoo. He already would look…	/r/AllPillDebate	18/08/23 10:41 AM
2	What's everyone's take on this? This is a brilliant idea, honestly. But I would take it even further and make it even more absurd, so my shower-tier advice would be literally showermaxxing 7 times a day and stuff like that.	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 11:56 PM
1	What's everyone's take on this? Redpill doesn't own being buff and having a beard. It definitely promotes it, but nevermind. The key factor here is the guy's attitude. And he's saying crowder is a child, not that he's feminine in some way. It is implied by his whole demeanor. Childish = unmanly enough anyway. IDK what you mean by displaying dominance — he's alone in a room, reading a script, so who is he dominating exactly? His posture, camera angle, once again his attitude, his video is literally about attacking on other men.…	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 11:36 PM
1	What's wrong with Fat women? Congrats, you've just did the thing. You literally called male population of a whole state short and ugly just to feel better about not living there. It's human nature to put down others. And yeah, I know it was a joke, many men and women prefer to justify it the same way.	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 11:27 PM
0	What's wrong with Fat women? I think it's a questionable way to feel better about themselves by putting down women online. In my experience many men who tell how thin exactly a girl needs to be end up dating girls who are more chubby than their standards. It's like all the girls want a 6'4 chad with 6 digit income, but are dating some random guy who seemed attractive at the moment. And I don't mean the guy they date isn't actually attractive. Cause some curves in a woman aren't really unattractive either, unless it's too mu…	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 04:34 PM
1	What's wrong with Fat women? It goes the same way with women telling all men are ugly and all woman are queens. And it's more complicated for women, cause they can say the guy is ugly and then date him, rarely occurs in guys (maybe cause guys who call above average girls ugly usually can't realistically date them). Also, that infamous 20/80 stat. It's just the way people want to feel better about themselves by putting others down.	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 04:25 PM
5	What's wrong with Fat women? Are you actually sexually attracted by character? Is that what you mean? You don't need to virtue signal here, just so you know.	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 04:20 PM
3	What's everyone's take on this? Yeah, I know, but it's about what he tells and what he does. By the way, debunking redpill is easy cause there are many redpill "gurus" who will spew any made up bullshit to reach insecure young males, and their takes are very hypocritical or make no sense. But this guy is definitely hating on redpill for clout, cause he knows exactly that man that looks like a poster kid for redpill criticizing redpill will draw attention (and positive attention from women too). I can assume he's even more redp…	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 03:48 PM
1	What is even happening nowadays? No matter how carefully a dude words things, no matter how tame the subject matter.. it never fails, YTA if you even mildly insinuate certain obvious things. First, they call him an asshole for the way he words things. You mentioned the word "carefully", and he is far from wording things this way. Second, this guy is probably a chad given the level of blatant "I'm a red flag" attitude in his responses. All these internet women can bash him in the comments all they want, but will probably find his attitude flirty and attractive when they meet him in real life.	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 03:25 PM
7	What's everyone's take on this? Masculine looking guy tells everyone redpill is a cope. Why is he buff then? Why is he wearing a beard? Why is he trying to display dominance? Why is he debunking redpillers by saying they're not masculine (implying he is)? We all know it takes a good personality and a couple of showers to attract women, why is he trying so hard then? I'm not even a redpill guy, but he definitely seems like one.	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 03:06 PM
1	Feminism Btw men have their own pink tax too (idk if it has a name), e. g. most beauty products and stuff like that are often marketed to women. But if there's a beauty product for men it's likely to be overpriced and have poorer quality, cause some men will pay more instead of resorting to buying a product that isn't "manly" enough. Also, as far as I know it's different in the West, but in Eastern Europe barbershops are promoted as some kind of elite hair salons for men only, so they can double the pric…	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 02:52 PM
2	Feminism Also it's a big generalization, but I still believe there's some truth to it, since I've been friends with some feminists (one of them was even radfem, but she wasn't really hardcore so talking to a guy was ok to her). And when I told them average male perspective on things they were genuinely shocked they didn't even think about that. Feminists are very ignorant about male problems and are very vocal about pain in their lives. Same thing goes for incels, but they have it the other way around.	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 09:45 AM
3	Feminism incels and feminists likely view the world in very opposing views I unironically think they have very much in common. Both incel and feminist mindset grow on failing your gender role and/or negative experience with another gender. And the patriarchy/gynocentrism they hate are just two separate perspectives on the same thing. You can say that many successful women share feminist ideas, but many successful men share redpill ideas in the same way, they just aren't very public about it. Also sharing…	/r/AllPillDebate	17/08/23 09:29 AM
1	Is there truly someone for everyone? It's easy to become too picky and very superficial in current dating market. You either have many so-so options, so you become picky to find the best one, or you have zero options, so you become overly picky to justify the fact nobody wants you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 09:16 AM
6	Women are not any less shallow than men are. What is happening is we are seeing through a majority of womens LIES about being less shallow. If men had as many options as women they would be extremly shallow and picky as well. If men had as many options as women they would be extremly shallow and picky as well. Chads are extremely shallow and hypocritical. You can see tons of women whining on social media about "dating the same guy" or "partner having commitment issues". That happens cause chad never really wants to commit, and even if he does, he'll probably go for some trad virgin 10/10 girl (while having 100+ bodycount himself, yeah). Also, he'll probably cheat on her too.	/r/AllPillDebate	16/08/23 05:22 PM
19	Is there truly someone for everyone? I think too many people shouldn't be in any commited relationship, like, ever. They're so fucked up beyond repair mentally they'll never find anyone they'll be happy with. So I think the answer is no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 04:22 AM
1	Thoughts on this post? I think all people feel entitled deep inside. Men feel entitled to love from women they consider attractive. Women feel entitled to get boyfriend treatment from their male friends without having any romantic relationships with them (yeah it sounds very transactional, but all human relationships are transactional, let's face it). In my experience, male-female friendship can be either fun and beneficial for both parties, or unfair and exhausting for one of them. I'm not even talking about friendzo…	/r/AllPillDebate	16/08/23 02:06 AM
2	All women cheat? Well, yeah, it's never as easy. But many men still cheat, so it's not nearly impossible. I think that if a person decides to cheat, they're the only person accountable for that decision. It's much easier to implement that decision for women, but I don't know if it's men or women who are more likely to make this decision. I don't think anyone would cheat only cause it's easier for their gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 06:11 PM
5	All women cheat? for men cheating involves effort. Not always. Some men cheat if they're offered a chance to, but won't put any effort themselves. There are also attractive men who don't need to put any effort or men who will pay for sex. Cheating is always an option if you can pay for an escort, even for an average male.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 05:32 PM
3	I genuinely think Tails is some sort of nefarious actor I think he's really cool for debunking redpill masculinity cope in his videos. Performative masculinity seems sadcringe for me. It's obvious that the most attractive men cater to female gaze, while redpill influencers are catering to male gaze in order to attract male audience. I don't really care what he encourages to do, I'm not regarded enough to listen to some internet guy who doesn't even show his face. I don't agree with many things he says, but I guess he's entitled to have an opinion.	/r/AllPillDebate	15/08/23 05:00 PM
0	Gym Culture is turning young men into losers. Gymcelling doesn't even make sense cause most women prefer lean/slightly muscular body type, not some bulky bodybuilder type. I guess it's good to be fit and have a body that is pleasant to look at, but most men can totally achieve it without some crazy gains. At the end of the day, your face and height matter more. Even your clothes, your hairstyle, even your personality matter more than your body, unless you're too slim or obese. Nobody can really see if your 6 pack is there or not, if you wea…	/r/AllPillDebate	15/08/23 04:33 PM
7	This has to be the most brutal story that shows the difference between chad and normie treatment I had a similar experience, but it was a stacy. It's not even the amount of chads she fucked that blew my mind, it's just the fact there are so many naive bluepilled men who were ready to gift her expensive stuff for free, even without having sex with her. And she also had a boyfriend, who spent an average monthly salary only on her and her needs (gifts and stuff like that are not included). But she still hated him and cheated on him with some deadbeat chad (by the way the bf was about 5'4, and …	/r/AllPillDebate	15/08/23 02:02 PM
6	Is It possibile For normies with potential to looksmaxx to Chadlite? You're basically already a chadlite, you just need to go hard on softmaxxing. First, do something about your skin (if skincare is not enough to fix it, you should get treatment by a professional dermatologist), then do some stylemaxxing in order to fit into the "hot black guy" archetype. You're already going to the gym, so it's only about getting some new clothes and accessories, maybe a tattoo. And yeah, you'll probably still be a niche in Italy, but it's not really a bad thing, cause italian g…	/r/AllPillDebate	15/08/23 01:21 PM
4	I don't believe in looksmaxxing... Looksmaxxing is merely improving your appearance to present more attractive, it's not a rocket science. However, I understand if you don't believe in certain looksmaxxing methods or strategies. I don't either, some are cope and some are making you even less attractive.	/r/AllPillDebate	14/08/23 03:57 PM
2	On the lamentations regarding “gynocentric” society as it pertains to the post feminist shift away from trad patriarchies I agree. But I don't think there were any major shift from the patriarchy. Top men still get all the women they want and treat them like disposable objects. The world seems "gynocentric" for an average male only. We're the worker bees in this system, not the patriarchs. But your take about women being more marketable is really profound. Though I don't think it's somehow connected with their female nature. Women are socially conditioned to be marketable, while men are socially conditioned to be u…	/r/AllPillDebate	14/08/23 02:28 PM
5	Wether you are short isn't about the numbers if you aren't the tallest person in the room than you are short. It's harder for men cause being seen as "weak" and "lesser" is socially acceptable for women only. Shorter girl might be not taken seriously in a professional setting, while a shorter guy is never taken seriously.	/r/AllPillDebate	14/08/23 01:59 PM
1	What can men do to truly escape/leave from society that doesn't care about us. You can't beat human nature. If you build a community of losers, soon there will be top losers and bottom losers. I guess it would be even worse than normie society, cause it would be a community of lonely sexless angry men with poor mental health. It's gonna be a disaster. I don't think any kind of community will help us. On the contrary, our strength is that we got used to rely only on ourselves and we don't trust other people. We tend to see things normies don't even care about. We just need …	/r/AllPillDebate	14/08/23 01:16 PM
6	Do you want to find out why you are lucky or unlucky with women? If you truly meant it, you wouldn't say anything like your first comment. You've made a huge generalization that most ugly people are just whiny bitches who need to work on themselves. Yeah, there are people like that, so what? If I said that all problems in my life are there cause I'm not top 1% of males, would it invalidate experience of people who are actually ugly?	/r/AllPillDebate	13/08/23 04:37 PM
5	Do you want to find out why you are lucky or unlucky with women? Your life experience is anecdotal evidence, sorry. I just said I see why many ugly men give up on their social and dating life. I'm not really an ugly man already, but I used to be before my glowup. I guess you weren't actually ugly either, or just had something to compensate with. But anyway, I had this dehumanizing experience and it definitely makes your life harder. I won't blame anyone who has it harder than you and me and gives up, we're basically much luckier than them to actually see how …	/r/AllPillDebate	13/08/23 02:21 PM
6	Do you want to find out why you are lucky or unlucky with women? I think genetics is just a broad term to describe the whole bunch of things people evaluate in you which you can't really change. Even your personality is really hard to change too if you were a loser or were laughed at for being ugly your whole life. And changing your features that are fully determined by your genes is nearly impossible. You also can't change your past, change your experience, even changing your income isn't always possible. I thing that the only realistic thing you can change …	/r/AllPillDebate	13/08/23 01:48 PM