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| 0 | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad Pitt | Discussion | darkwindhowls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:17 PM |
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| -2 | Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want?It's delusional because there is a lot of evidence men can and do find bigger women attractive. There's a body positivity movement also for women. The opposite is not true for women vis a vis men. So the comment at best is just projecting. Yes it is delusional. This commenter could fire up a dating app and get HUNDREDS of willing and interested matches. A similarly overweight man? :) No. Delusional is the right word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 09:21 AM |
| -1 | Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want?The only way the commenter could make statements at odds with indisputable fact is her ignoring a large part of the male populous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 08:44 AM |
| -3 | Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want?Women frame all their relationships this way....? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 07:57 AM |
| 16 | Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want?Men are literally dating overweight and obese women by the millions per data. The irony is that this comment just showcases female delusion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 07:56 AM |
| 3 | Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want?That'd cause a reflection of who they really are to appear before a woman.....which naturally, they hate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 07:55 AM |
| -2 | Is it wrong to "settle" because you can't get what you really want?The perfect woman is a 10 who shows up naked at your door, regales you with good conversation, fucks your brains out and then turns into a cheese pizza. DLR had it right. So we're all settling amirite? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 07:53 AM |
| 0 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toI didn't pester you I correctly guessed your race and virgin status. Your guess in response is wrong and your basis is foolish. Because you have no life experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 01:05 AM |
| 0 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toThey don't... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:56 AM |
| -1 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toYou definitely don't. However the fact that you think you have an opinion to offer on behalf of all women for an experience you've never had should be instructive for all men: Women aren't to be taken seriously | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:51 AM |
| 0 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toYou have a virgin pretending she speaks for all of women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:45 AM |
| 1 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toThat you fetishize hyper eurocentric beauty ideals and men typifying them and have a delusional concept of what level of looks will make you wet on sight and your imagined conduct in real life encountering such a man. It's explained by a lack of real life experience. And self hatred. White women also don't say shit like this especially not at 19. They're too busy virtue signaling and getting off being bad girls behind the scenes. Which means you're doing this for attention meaning you don't get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:37 AM |
| 0 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toBecause it seems obvious that you're a non white virgin. How did I know? Mysterious... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:33 AM |
| 2 | Why don't we talk more about "female sexuality"? Where has it gone?Women deep down I think know how superficial they are and are afraid of what would happen if society accepted it as truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:32 AM |
| 3 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toGAVEL STRIKE How did I know? That's a wrap boys. We're done here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:29 AM |
| -1 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toAre you a virgin | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:27 AM |
| 0 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toIt's hard when so many of you have been under me. Are you a virgin? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:25 AM |
| 3 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toLol ya she's 19. So delusional overcompensation along with a lack self knowledge | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:23 AM |
| -2 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toLol larp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:22 AM |
| 1 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toThe point is correct but the commenters standards aren't IRL that high. And if that guy appeared before the commenter she might fuck him on the right day but on many other days her insecurity would cause her to act weird toward him either before or after fucking him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:21 AM |
| 34 | I don’t understand, it seems like women don’t have to do much work or “real” work to become attractive/ have sex with atrractive men she’s attracted to and sexually attracted toYou don't have to play mind games. Women don't play games when they find you attractive regarding sleeping with you. They'll lie to you more to make themselves look better tho. Women either like you or they don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:19 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittNo if you can't correctly parse a basic anecdote and OP with spelled out implications of the anecdote in a casual informal way, you don't have the chops for a formal discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:14 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittBecause women don't care about much beyond superficiality. How many times do I need to say it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:12 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittIs it? I think women, when they fuck over a gl guy, do so in much nastier and harsher ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:08 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittIts not a theory. It's that women just be like that. No matter who you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:08 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittA great sample for the point I was making....in that no one is spared from hypergamy/superficiality/fickleness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:07 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittMy point is that your take is naive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:06 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittLol yeah that's the solution, "there are more hoops to jump through." Superficiality and frivolity spare no man is more the message. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:05 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad Pittfirst day reading comprehension response. Missed the point. Reread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:05 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittBeing confident in one's self for no external reason is imbecilic advice. The only reason to improve one's dating life is to get RESULTS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:04 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittYes I said looks money and status. But it really is just status. That's what the first two convey. And the point is that women just generally "be that way." Not that some magic silver bullet exists that will protect a man from experiencing this behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:02 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittYes I incorrectly assumed people would be able to take the example and get the message. They do, but you know it's 2024, everyone has a hot take that involves refusing to comprehend common sense communication. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:01 AM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittThe just worlders love to preach. But no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 11:59 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittBrah no. Go look at pics of her and him doing a little dance. Even then he was way better looking than her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 11:58 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittYou're right the behavior exhibited here has no similarity to everyday female behavior. Except it obviously does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 11:56 PM |
| – | Is it weird that I am 36 years old and have never been in a relationship and get bored with women and focus on other things?I mean....you're not wrong that women generally aren't particularly interesting and that a relationship with a woman is definitely not some indicator of success. I've always chuckled whenever a woman asks me why I'm still single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 11:35 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittThe last younger woman he dated insisted he commit while she was keeping her options open the entire time. So it's safe to say that he consistently deals with the same bullshit everyone else does, just from hotter women perhaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 11:23 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittYes the entire point of self improvement is vague woowoo that makes no sense. For example, time spent being palatable to others has huge returns in...being palatable to others. Did you know that women do not give a shit if you work out "for yourself" or "to attract more women?" They respond to it all the same! Whaaaaaaat??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:55 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittHa you're hilarious, not many can turn the obvious on its head and what you've done here, the hyperbole and snark, so original. When you aren't regaling people's turned away heads with such wit, you must be busy with creative fiction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:53 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittAhh the increasingly common hybrid species human-ostrich burying his head up his ass to avoid the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:46 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittWhat do you think changes when you upgrade your looks money or status as a man? :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:41 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittIrrelevant statement that doesn't need to be proven wrong given the litany of peer reviewed research supporting the frivolity and superficiality of women in dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:40 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittAnd for SB he obviously just fucked and chucked her. So Brad Pitt who had been in a relationship with the woman, she throws it away for a guy who tosses her to the side. WHAT A BETA LOSER! :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:35 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittYou're just proving my point. With status looks etc. come the same types of pressures and the same lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:33 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad Pitthttps://www.whosdatedwho.com/dating/brad-pitt The women he dated as a non celebrity don't seem particularly hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:32 PM |
| – | Why "self-improvement" will never be the security blanket men think it is, the tale of a loser named Brad PittExcept he wasn't a celebrity for a good chunk of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:23 PM |
| – | Dependability: Mating and Evolutionary PsychologyNot according to this: https://www.cibdol.com/blog/1747-how-often-do-single-people-have-sex#:~:text=Casually%20dating%20couples%20have%20sex,average%20just%200.5%20weekly%20encounters. Single men beat married men and aren't that far behind cohabiting couples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:21 PM |
| 0 | Which is easier, being a man or being a woman?Men have the balls to go through with killing themselves, women don't. That explains a lot of the difference. Women aren't happy by and large. They're also generally very insecure. Dating is much easier for women. I think life overall probably is easier for men. Men can be happy with very very little. I have never seen this to be the case for any woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 10:01 PM |
| – | Dependability: Mating and Evolutionary PsychologyThe whispering eye is a slang term from olden times. ... And I mean, you may be on to something, because women orgasm 30% of the time from rape. ... See what happens when you make a bad analogy? The idea is that women are not qualified to judge character, IQ, etc. in thin slices, no one is, least of all someone without any training and not administering professional tests. Whereas they are indeed manifestly qualified to issue all kinds of prejudicial opinions. Based on their eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 09:48 PM |
| 1 | We do not live in a “hookup” culture and the amount of casual sex going on is grossly exaggeratedIt's hard for me to take that seriously. Like, most people live in urban areas. Maybe my experiences bias things, I don't know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Most 50 / 50 LTR's will fail if you are the guy, if you want it to work, you have to exploit a power dynamicThis is a gross oversimplification. If the power dynamic is too large, the woman WILL pre-emptively reject or always be looking for ways to eject due to insecurity. It goes both ways. Unless of course, you are funding her entire lifestyle. Hence, the ultimate truth, that while looks and attraction and whatever else are good for "feelings," feelings come and go for women. Her survival, i.e. money, = control. Abusers don't keep women through making them experience a bunch of bullshit emotions. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 09:43 PM |
| – | Dependability: Mating and Evolutionary PsychologyThe men who are long-term options get that way by literally agreeing (tacitly) to invest in the woman over long time periods while the woman tests out literally every other option before deciding to sexually invest (at the most miniscule amount to secure provisioning) in the man. Most men are realizing that the truth about being seen as the long-term guy is terrible and not worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 09:28 PM |
| – | Dependability: Mating and Evolutionary PsychologyIncorrect. Women do not have character detectors installed on their pussies. Looks + variance They aren't complicated. Stop treating them like they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 09:22 PM |
| 4 | Switching around "Commitment" for "Sex" may allow more empathy between the sexes?Any man with half a brain understands this concept. Yes, you are correct. The current dating model is stupid because women want to "take their time" with sex aka extract gf treatment without being a gf for as long as possible. It makes no sense to take a woman out and pay for dinner/watch movies/do social things if she is not your gf. You're not getting sex. You're not getting her undivided attention. You are literally signing up to audition for a woman who by odds is not a supermodel or otherwi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 06:10 AM |
| – | Men do not have high beauty standardsWhich is why women aren't worth taking seriously and are like children. When confronted with factual increasingly dire conditions, they pulled a Nero | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 01:58 AM |
| – | Men do not have high beauty standardsPretty much. Hope you don't have a daughter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 01:53 AM |
| – | Men do not have high beauty standardsStamp your feet and stick your hands in your ears some more. It's working. No really, men are seeing that women are cool misogyny is declining and men are happily entering the dating market. Wait a minute.... The opposite is true. And as the hatred rises, and women slowly realize that the men they are attracted to secretly for the most part don't give a shit about them, these are the kinds of responses they give. Things are about to get real for women in the next 20 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?The two points I made were not "natural obvious" reasoning. Your first response is that a study showing first impressions are resistant to change supports a hypothesis you bring up (sans evidence) rather than combines to suggests that a longer time scale would likely have little effect on the impressions formed from a 5-10 minute interaction. You don't seem to understand why the study suggests that these "other imoressions" in the confines of the timescale of a date would likely make little diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?I already explained why they were wrong. In fact at every turn when given an opportunity you've distorted or deliberately made obtuse the points made. In separate occasions I've even pre-empted your response and you still galloped on with the predicted sophistry. For example, your characterization of generalizing the study is brain dead and supposed it could only apply to 100% identical 3-5 minute interactions. Your refusal to vet for yourself whether the article I cited which summarized a peer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/24 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?Waiting for you to correctly state my position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?You're not calling anything out. You're claiming a situation that is very close to real life doesn't generalize to real life. I don't wish to continue because you don't have the inductive chops to make it worthwhile to do so. When you learn how to engage utilizing something other than bad sophistry, you'll find more people willing to have real discussions with you. And naturally you fell into the trap regarding the type of argumentation I referred to over facts. Because you aren't the conoseuieu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 11:27 PM |
| 2 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?...which has nothing to do with someone failing to correctly state the position they argue against and instead asking loaded strawman questions. Are you this incompetent that you can't even correctly reference a list you made up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 10:45 PM |
| 4 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?You're not in a position to evaluate me or the strength of anything. You're just transparently posturing. In all of that word salad there failed to materialize a response to the simple cogent analogical point. Your supposition about 3-4 hours having alread been pre-empted by the article, which you failed to contend with. Gee I wonder why. Every "nuance" you're pointing out makes no sense. For example citing an article describing a peer-reviewed study is not similar weight to a peer-reviewed stud… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 10:38 PM |
| 3 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?When you can correctly state the position I've stated you'll be worth a response. Try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 10:12 PM |
| – | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?An evaluation is not a poll. And 175 participants is quite the large sample size that easily generalizes to probably almost the entire population of the USA at minimum. Rather than spend your time in woowoo land of subjective and objective truth, log more hours studying statistics and why your rebuttals here are the equivalent of a toddler babbling nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?Your entire premise is nonsensical. You don't argue over matters of fact. They either are or they are not. If you want to be a good debater you need to understand that facts are not up for debate. 100 studies confirming an empirical state of affairs requires no further "'argument." Anyone who believes otherwise is profoundly misguided. Feel free to google search. You already did try to fight me with the tried and true "THIS CAN'T GENERALIZE LOL" trope that again, is senseless. And I doubt you'd … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?It isn't a poll it's actual research. Google the difference between literate and illiterate. Not reading the cites will always make you come off stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:50 PM |
| – | Men do not have high beauty standardsThe entire response is a derailing fallacy to point the spotlight somewhere else. Women can't help but constantly remind men that they aren't worth paying attention to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:47 PM |
| 6 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?And this is exactly why people don't cite studies. In real life people meet and interact for brief periods of time and decide whether to further pursue one another, in speed dating people meet and interact for brief periods of time and decide whether to further pursue one another. You seem to believe that there's a meaningful difference in chatting for 10 minutes versus 3 or 4 hours. But we are doggedly resistant to changing our superficial first impressions https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:46 PM |
| 6 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656621000507 Many studies exist just like this one, showing the same thing, that the majority of dating decisions are explained by randomness and physical attractiveness. Objectively true as a matter of statistics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Men do not have high beauty standardsAnd your entire point in light of the norm is meaningless and fails to support the notion you're trying to push. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:21 PM |
| 4 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?Anyway, men should just stop paying much attention to women or taking anything they say seriously. Are you capable of engaging anything in good faith, you think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?Dating is superficial and driven mostly by physical attractiveness and variance (random interaction effects -- i.e. the unique way two people interact which has nothing to do with personality or charisma or any other nonsense, it's literally random circumstance in that interaction) and nothing else. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656621000507 One of many studies showing this to be true. You're right though. Most here are uninterested in reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656621000507 There's nothing to debate regarding how superficial dating is, though. This, and many other studies clearly show that it is. People, such as yourself, just refuse to accept empirical reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?Physical attractiveness and variance are responsible for virtually all of dating decisions to the exclusion of everything else. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656621000507 ^ a great study that itself is part of a long line of studies showing the exact same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?no there wouldn't. There'd be someone citing a mountain of studies. And the other parties, who are obviously unfamiliar with research on the topic they are debating, will attempt to essentially dismantle an entire field of research. No one cites studies because no one gives a shit about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:06 PM |
| 6 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?^ typical example of exactly why citing the mountain of evidence (1) directly showing that it is easy to quantify attraction via basic statistics and (2) that it's very simple and superficial where both men and especially women are concerned. Why bother? This creationist has an opinion that is feel good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Why does no one link stats or supporting evidence for their positions?Hopelessly naive OP. You obviously have never had the joy of arguing with a creationist. You could cite 100 studies backing you up and the creationist will launch a series of fallacious "arguments" designed to "pick apart" each study. They have no concept of the weight of the evidence. They will just systematically launch a kindergarten level 'attack' on each study that would require everyone to essentially believe all these researchers are idiots and don't know how to research their own field. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 09:04 PM |
| – | Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are strugglingEveryone just is out to lunch mentally. OP's listed traits in many cases are not average. And the confluence of them occuring together is fairly rare. And that can easily struggle. Why? People like to point to people being married as if it means something. It doesn't. You don't know the negotiation that took place, you don't know the dynamics of that relationship. Joining the 80% does not mean you entered into a loving, great healthy relationship. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:59 PM |
| – | Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are strugglingThey've done similar real time experiments to that effect. ... And they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:50 PM |
| – | Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are strugglingThe correlations are small so the probability overall would still be low | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:49 PM |
| – | Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are strugglingEach of the categories even on their own fail to represent average in many or most cases | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:44 PM |
| -6 | Men do not have high beauty standardsYes. But the problem is that people like you and many others take them seriously. There was a time not even 100 years ago when men didn't bother even engaging with women on these topics or bringing them up. Why? Arguing with a woman is pointless: She has a child's disposition. A child will never think outside of themselves. Reasoning with a woman is pointless: regardless of her ability to access IQ, her disposition simply will only deploy mental resources to her self interest. Briffault's law ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:40 PM |
| 0 | Men do not have high beauty standardsDunderheaded thinking that forgets the social norm of men messaging first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:36 PM |
| -1 | Men do not have high beauty standardsThere are issues with framing, here. Hypergamy is true but the issue with hypergamy being treated as this inflexible fact of life is that hypergamy is strongly conditioned on her perception of herself and the men she encounters. The issue with modern society is that in times past women had to earn access to the higher tier men by being invited into those social circles. Women were more or less limited by the social circles that would have them and they could tolerate existing in, i.e. a social c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Is it reasonable to have one bad relationship and not try again? Why men stop dating?Men stop dating because they take women seriously. If men returned to the correct old ways, treating women as though they were young children, there'd be much less psychological distress over them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Are male dating coaches ruining modern dating?What a silly OP. Male dating coaches obviously make no sense. But the fact that they focus on getting a woman to fall for you fast is because of what women actually respond to. Women do not understand that their feelings aren't facts and that left to their own devices they make stupid decisions. Taking women seriously is what has ruined modern dating. Perhaps society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:20 PM |
| 1 | "Enjoy the decline" is a perfectly viable strategyNo it isn't. It's part and parcel of the feminization of men. Most men have no meaningful way to enjoy the decline. What men need to do is what men in times past instinctively knew....stop taking women seriously. 60 years of being emotionally "intelligent" and "good listeners" is enough. The experiment has been run. It has been an unmitigated failure. Let's just start being honest about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:18 PM |
| – | Men on this sub are probably below average which is why they are strugglingYour list is false in that many of the listed traits are above average and that regardless of covariance the traits listed occurring together would make a man much above average. Your general argument is brain dead. It's the age old assumption that the status quo can only be complained about by its most extreme malcontents. Come back when you learn basic Macro level thinking devoid of spurious fallacies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:16 PM |
| – | If a Butch Sapphic Woman that passes as Masculine, who is significantly overweight can pull numerous pretty girls, than so can any guy, and just tells you that it’s all about confidence when it comes to dating. CMV.Oh I just meant I didn't like only her getting to pick the girl lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 10:34 AM |
| – | I feel like men fall in love simply by spending time with a woman, but women need good sex to fall in love. Am I wrong?I didn't refer to any data so no by logic you're still the hack who can't even hack basic rhetoric. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:21 AM |
| – | I feel like men fall in love simply by spending time with a woman, but women need good sex to fall in love. Am I wrong?You assume data and conclusions from it without citing anything then double down with posturing as if you're being logical. Back in my day, people understood rhetoric and how not to look like a complete moron when deploying it. But watching hacks like yourself is amusing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 08:09 AM |
| – | I feel like men fall in love simply by spending time with a woman, but women need good sex to fall in love. Am I wrong?Nope. Virtually in all cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 07:44 AM |
| – | I feel like men fall in love simply by spending time with a woman, but women need good sex to fall in love. Am I wrong?The one receiving the love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 07:34 AM |
| – | Women manipulate the guys they date to emotionally invest in themDerailing is fun. You're very close to stating a position. You can do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 07:32 AM |
| – | Women manipulate the guys they date to emotionally invest in themState your position. It's not hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 07:23 AM |
| – | I feel like men fall in love simply by spending time with a woman, but women need good sex to fall in love. Am I wrong?Definitely true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 07:18 AM |
| – | Women manipulate the guys they date to emotionally invest in themThis is the main issue with women and many men in this age by deploying snark and implying your points: incoherence. Rather than posturing with an obtuse question try stating a position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 07:11 AM |
| 1 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.You assumed something then tried to ask me about it. That's a pretty emotional and feminine means of "discussion." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.One would have to be literate to know it's a word salad. So we can add insults to the list of skills you are incompetent in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:48 AM |
| 1 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.Why yes you did a word salad hoping it would erase your incompetence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:46 AM |
| 0 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.I'll live knowing what we all on the inside know and as useful yutzes like you demonstrate: women aren't worth taking seriously. You can't even process a basic fact and truly think you can speak for a perspective you don't have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:44 AM |
| -1 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.You also definitely don't have the IQ. You don't know anything about an experience you don't have. I'm sorry that such a basic fact eludes you. Despite your best efforts to derail away from the topic: no one gives a shit about your hot take on feelings, we are talking about MEN having feelings and masculinity. You don't know about those topics. Yes correct you do not understand the social expectations placed on men because you don't experience their enforcement even though you enforce. Do prison… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:40 AM |
| 1 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.No. You don't understand the relationship. That's not his or my problem and definitely doesn't make your ineptness a matter of fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:36 AM |
| 0 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.Not in woman-land, where women think they can speak on what it means to be a man but men have no concept of what it is to be a woman. Like how white people know what blackness is. Or Americans know what it is to be Chinese. Literally in every other scenario it is how it works: claiming to know an experience you don't have is seen for what it is - stupid. Except women running their mouths about masculinity of course Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.And this sadistic winner punishes even the slightest revelation of weakness.... ...then as most do immediately show their astounding lack of intelligence and empathy by failing to draw the obvious parallel. Chef's kiss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:32 AM |
| 2 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.You don't know anything about masculinity. You're a woman. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:30 AM |
| – | I feel like men fall in love simply by spending time with a woman, but women need good sex to fall in love. Am I wrong?Women don't fall in love unless you tick some fairly superficial boxes first, then convince them that you will invest attention and resources into them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:29 AM |
| -1 | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .Women don't live far enough beyond Id to be malevolent. It's so sad that people are this confused and refuse to simply acknowledge reality. Don't you think it's strange that in nearly every sector of society where one group is struggling due to inherent inequity your narrative is repeated? If you're poor.. "People would like to blame (bad social outcome) on (actual external cause), but the truth is (convenient bullshit rationalizing status quo)." ^ script for justifying most social injustice I w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 06:14 AM |
| 2 | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .Which is why I did the polite and correct thing for you, to set an example of proper behavior. You're welcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 04:54 AM |
| 1 | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .That's true. I should say the odds are so low that they may as well not be out there. However a good woman can have casual sex with you. There's no prohibition there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 04:54 AM |
| – | Women manipulate the guys they date to emotionally invest in themYeah typically a woman spinning one of these stupid woe is me martyr stories goes into the cum dumpster pile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 04:52 AM |
| – | Women manipulate the guys they date to emotionally invest in themNo. PUAs just invented a bunch of nonsense for the purpose of men putting up with bitchy behavior. In reality men are the ones in the position to competently vet women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 04:51 AM |
| – | Women manipulate the guys they date to emotionally invest in themI am. Once men accept this, it will be sad at first, but then they will get back to just not taking anything women say seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 04:47 AM |
| 2 | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .Failure isn't just divorce. Apology accepted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 04:45 AM |
| – | Women manipulate the guys they date to emotionally invest in themThose aren't half truths. Looks and variance = her entire decision. Men need to let the pretty lies women and society tell them perish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 04:44 AM |
| 2 | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .My logic? Nothing in my logic precludes that possibility. If anything you have a higher chance of one starting there these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 04:31 AM |
| 0 | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .Again you keep demonstrating that you simply do not have a lot of experience if any dating in anything resembling modern conditions. Many relationships start with casual sex, i.e. sex before commitment. So you're wrong again. That's great you know guys who have "killed it" in relationships/marriage but were terrible at casual sex. Without knowing the inner workings of the relationships and the initial process of getting to that relationship, it's meaningless. You're still failing to contend with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 03:38 AM |
| 2 | Men need to be less emotional and touch their masculine side.Correct in that there is no positive efficacy for any man "opening up" to...pretty much anyone. Maybe a close friend of 20+ years or something. Incorrect in this nonsensical bootstrap "victim mentality" trope pushing bullshit. No one cares about what you think you've seen some men do. Elon Musk has done amazing things too. So the fuck what? People like you make it impossible for anyone to talk about injustice or oppression. Congrats, you're a status quo pushing, tool. Is it everything you though… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 03:26 AM |
| 6 | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .Your first paragraph does what many do: fail to see the obvious inextricable link between concepts conditional on one another, i.e. if you do not date, you cannot get married. So you are outside-of-universe wrong regarding "little overlap between dating decisions" and marriage decisions. The pool of "will marry" necessarily exists within the larger circle of "will date." Your second paragraph fails to understand that "failure" while encompassing outright divorce, simply involves all outcomes tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 03:16 AM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Oh, so the abusive violent men are bad people who present as pleasant? Also wrong. Read what I said in the previous comment. Maybe you're just wrong. Maybe people are just superficial, like the mountain of replicated research a google search away you shows time and time again. Of course, it would make shaming people for their "too awkward" behavior impossible and your justification for their senseless human suffering easier to continue, so I can see why you're so into creationism and reality den… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 03:04 AM |
| 4 | What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . .The dearth of what you likely mean by "good woman" escapes your "analysis." TRP is wrong for many reasons and about many things. Generally, however, sexual hypergamy is correct. The blackpill is generally correct regarding superficiality dominating dating decisions. Your analysis refuses to acknowledge the vast majority of marriages will end in failure. It refuses to acknowledge that the odds of attaining the fairytale 50 year old walking daughter down grocery aisle is extremely remote. So it's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:54 AM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I feel sorry for you too. You apparently thought I'd fail to notice that in response to me telling you that you misstated the narrative you were trying to explain, you had nothing but derailment to offer in return. Twice. Stop lying about viewpoints you disagree with if you can't discuss them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Population collapse and datingPeople are invested in feeling good, not the truth. I'm fairly bullish for male prospects in 100 years. The sex ratio in many countries, including the USA, favors males, i.e. more females. As population drops, that ratio will likely skew further, which means that all the problems men are experiencing will likely increasingly melt away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:41 AM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I don't have to work for sex. That's the point. Any guy who's even experienced just one time how easy it is with a woman who finds them highly attractive makes...everything, will understand. And all guys date women for sexual access. The fact that it's insulting for you, this notion of sex not needing to be worked for, just shows how engrained whoring is into society. Because for most men, a relationship is attained via a negotiation --- the price for pussy. You can dress it up with everything y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:34 AM |
| -6 | Your personality is mostly determined by factors outside your control and changing it fundamentally is EXTREMELY difficult, contrary to what other people might be espousingYour point you're trying to get across is one women don't care about and never will. You need to accept the reality of women: they are superficial to a level beyond your comprehension, as demonstrated by the first childlish response to your comment --- distorted into nonsense you didn't say, illustrating the commenter's desire to ridicule you for stating your honest opinion. That is women, in a nutshell. There is a reason in the older times they were lumped in with children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:22 AM |
| -5 | Your personality is mostly determined by factors outside your control and changing it fundamentally is EXTREMELY difficult, contrary to what other people might be espousingWomen don't care about whether a man is "a fucking mess." The issue is obvious. Women claim to be judging men on many scores that they are plainly not and plainly don't even care about. So no, men don't deserve to take these assessments seriously and beat themselves up over being told various opinions about them that are completely false. Whether it's that they're 'weird,' that they aren't 'confident enough,' etc. etc. The reality is OBVIOUSLY women form a superficial shallow opinion of you base… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:19 AM |
| 0 | Your personality is mostly determined by factors outside your control and changing it fundamentally is EXTREMELY difficult, contrary to what other people might be espousingWomen do not care, as you point out, about any of this. In reality, all they care about is the here and now of you. And that boils down to how you look and random circumstance. Nothing else is relevant. No judgment of you, especially by a woman you have known less than a year, means anything. Men need to take this to heart. Both the positive and the negative judgments are meaningless. She's reacting to her feelings in response to how your attractiveness ranking is pinging off her personal experi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:16 AM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?It's not the answer. It's practically cut-paste just world "logic." But I don't understand, I thought women could sense "bad people?" Remember, that's the implication of your silly "these men think their looks is the reason they aren't getting laid" screed. Have you interacted with some of these loser violent men, in many cases drug addicted, "winners?" They're obviously terrible dumb idiots from the jump. It's nice that you're imagining they're this charming, smooth love bomber who "Tricks" wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:11 AM |
| – | Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds?Women are just mad they aren't getting what they want. That's the end of it. There's no other discussion beyond that. Extend this logic to most every complaint you hear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 02:01 AM |
| 2 | Do men require more support than women?Nonsensical OP when we live in a society where women have been propped up for all their feminist gains by affirmative action and other government policies despite women collectively being a tax burden on society. It is manifestly clear that women require so much more support than men that we can't even really speak of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:56 AM |
| – | Women manipulate the guys they date to emotionally invest in themWomen manipulate and tell half-truths as reflex for all sorts of reasons. It's just what they do. Men lie too, but men and women lie for different reasons for different purposes. And no, if men are courageous enough to see reality for what it is. being manipulated by women is ultimately what will make him far more effective in dealing with women. The vast majority of men who protect women and take their side regarding many issues simply are afraid of female disapproval or have ego investment in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:55 AM |
| 4 | Is the online dating phenomenon reflective of real life?Most women are not on dating apps. The figures regarding online dating are often conflated to interpret 'met online' as 'met online on a dating app.' which is false. Someting like 10-20% of women use dating apps. In real life women are limited to their social circles and/or the odd man who cold approaches her. Dating apps self-select for a certain class of women who tend to be more promiscuous and extroverted. The fact of the matter is that the sample size of a gym, a bar, a club, etc. simply wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:50 AM |
| – | Anyone else getting tired of this whole "gender war" shit?First, both sides do not have valid points. I understand that a lot of boring vapid people who have nothing to contribute love deploying this Abe Lincoln Great Unifier rhetorical gambit Unfortunately the existence of two sides to a debate does not legitimize both sides. You're the guy who steps into the middle of a debate between creationists and proponents of evolution saying "both sides have valid points." You're actually just contributing to the misinformation you claim to loathe by stepping … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:45 AM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Google the research. There's a mountain of it. Do your homework before talking about a topic you're unfamiliar with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:42 AM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I believe you. The fact that a "nice voice" is what did it for you, again. just supports me. I'm sorry to inform you that voice timbre is a very superficial quality and also an empirically confirmed component of superficial attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/24 01:42 AM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I think a lot of people today like yourself are creationists who don't like the empirically confirmed reality of how randomness and looks explain all of dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:58 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?^ this ultimately is still a narrative that pedestalizes pussy Men worried about being sex gods and having good game are ultimately preaching one form of being an obedient lap dog or another. Good at sex is a non sequitur. It's an interaction. Two people have good sex. Two people have good interactions. I guess all the empirical research demonstrating time and time again that randomness and looks are all that matter is a beta male conspiracy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:56 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?^ more morality play reasoning. Disconfirmed by simply observing the violent men who rape and beat their partners. Good thing they'll never find love. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:53 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Must be why abusive violent men struggle to find partners. Do people like peddling obviously false fairytale narratives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:52 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Women say they are judging personality and for whatever daft reason people take them seriously. Women are not walking personality inventories. They just have arbitrary whims that are mostly subject to the halo effect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:50 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?There is a disconnect for most women between how they think they behave and what better explains their actual decisions. I've been told by many women that looks do not matter to them and found myself being intimate with them within less than half an hour. While they attributed this to our special connection, the smart money always understands the reality versus the words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:45 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I think people who over interpret the significance of positive emotions are at high risk of making chintzy appeals to "the magic of wuv" arguments like this. Chemistry as I discussed above is also ultimately not that big of a deal. Attraction is superficial and mostly conditioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:44 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I interact with women quite a bit and have no problem entering into sexual and romantic relationships with them at will. My experience concurs with the research. It's mostly superficial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:42 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Empirically false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:41 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Your instincts are right about how it works and how your behavior seems to make no difference. Women are heavily invested in feel good myths about how they operate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:41 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?You are long on assertion here but unless you can demonstrate somehow that your pussy is a personhood detector (or meaningful personality/IQ battery), you're the one who is spouting nonsense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:39 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?^ terrible analysis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:38 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Charisma is looks and the halo effect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:38 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Literally the studies have partitioned the variance and randomness + looks = all. Over and over. Again and again. I've never seen anything personality related account for more than 3% of the variance. It's silly to flat out ignore real empirical research in favor of folksy narratives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:37 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?This is the issue I have. Nothing I'm saying hasn't already been said in at this point A LEGION of peer reviewed research. People are such silly creationists who prefer feel good myths that DAMAGE people. They just don't care as long as the damage isn't being done to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:36 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?These issues are verboten in normal society because social norms exist against attaching any negative accountability to women. Emotional connections aren't connections and mostly just personal suppositions and ones ideas about life projected onto another person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:33 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Women do not care about personality and most will ignore a man or woman based on looks alone. Empirically confirmed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:32 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?He likely was white, tall, and yes a deep voice is another though less substantial attractive quality. Like most women you end up proving the simplicity of women rather than giving any reason to assume complexity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:31 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?This is a complete misunderstanding of the averageness phenomenon in attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:30 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Objectively and empirically false. I think there's an actual study from Spain showing that being unattractive had no effect on a woman's ability to find a partner where it had a huge effect for men. But this trend can be inferred from the different gini coefficients that exist for male and female dating app attention | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:29 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Reality is against you. You distorted the other side to make the claim easier to respond to. Grow up and learn to appreciate the opposing perspective on its terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:27 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?That's not the narrative. The narrative is that if you are very attractive you will find it very easy to get into physical and romantic relationships. If you are not, you will find it very difficult, you will encounter many "I need an emotional bond,' "I need to wait," i.e. excuse after excuse as to why she cannot sexually or otherwise invest in you until you've invested x amount of arbitrary effort courting her via attention, time, effort, conversational initiative, listening to her talk about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:24 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?There is no such thing as an objectively genuinely likable person and a lot of what you are supposing is a bond is actually them just doing things that you view as positive enough to where you find them physically appealing. Again, men can invest time and attention how they see fit. Most women do not function like you do and in my opinion it's not really worth the investment in your case unless no other options exist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:15 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I already stated what she meant and offered a counter argument to the suppositions underlying her perspective. Rather than respond, she's decided to squid ink | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:12 PM |
| – | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Hard to meaningfully discuss someone who can't deal with reality. Not only do women get instantly aroused by sexy men, they get aroused by all sort of images. Their sexual arousal can also be conditioned. This is a matter of empirical research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 11:09 PM |
| 2 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?You literally acted like a woman appreciating conventional appeal but failing to feel attracted AKA AROUSED AKA SEXUAL ATTRACTION was something unique to "demisexuality" when normal women capable of 0-60 wanna-fuck-on-sight experience the same thing as well. You could always just CLARIFY your apparently profound point. You know. If you were interested in discussing rather than posturing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 10:40 AM |
| 2 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Yeah. It did. I'm sorry it broke your mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 10:35 AM |
| 2 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?No I understood it. Conventionally attractive = objective beauty hence for a woman to see such a man and not feel attracted = your point. That's the phenomenon you're describing. You don't seem to understand that an additional assumption is required to get where you want to get. The most tolerant of alternative sexuality social circles yes my desperate to handwave away realities I do not like friend | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 10:34 AM |
| 2 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I put seduced in quotes because I didn't say or do anything special. At all. That's the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 10:16 AM |
| 2 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Have you ever thought that maybe everyone understands the extremely basic point you're making here. You're just saying that women can see a conventionally attractive man without feeling attracted. Everyone knows that. The leap is to say that because a woman has failed to meet such a man that she is incapable of experiencing attraction this way. And no, if you are in a major metro area and make your way from scene to scene you will encounter such types adjacent to the artistic types and hipsters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?I'd say virtually all or at least most. According to empirical research looks and variance are all that matter. So no, in the short run there's nothing more to attraction. I mean just because it hasn't happened for you doesn't mean you can't. You may just have a particular standard or niche that's very high and obscure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 10:11 AM |
| -1 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Even if that's true you're assuming women are meaningfully capable of judging that separate from the halo effect which all available research suggests they can't | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 09:02 AM |
| – | The truth about males and femalesIt's easy to judge whether a person is wrongheaded in their beliefs. Look at the results they want. If they can't get the results they want despite holding those beliefs, their beliefs are wrong. I think pragmatic approaches are best. As to whether the sum total of all beliefs are on balance wrong or right, you just need to look at the market results. The market is obviously failing. It's absolutely ridiculous that the mighty Y chromosome and its insatiable testosterone fueled sexual drive has b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 07:47 AM |
| 6 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Wrong. They were more willing to invest a lot of time and attention into women before the pay off. Men don't understand that there's only one level of facial looks that will instantly arouse a woman, and it's a very high level. If you aren't there, it doesn't mean you're ugly. Not at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?Women absolutely can and do experience near instant physical attraction. The standard is just quite high. The stuff about height, dick size, etc. isn't "theory." It's empirically tested and confirmed. the same goes for "personality." In the near term, it has been empircally tested and disconfirmed to count for much of anything. Most of what people attribute to personality is just the halo effect. I've "seduced" several "demisexual" women very quickly who "felt a connection" with me. I'm sure it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 07:28 AM |
| 6 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?^ this is accurate, but it works on timescales of months, not the timescales of modern dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 07:22 AM |
| 7 | Why is interpersonal chemistry never accounted for in conversations about attraction- only looks?It is accounted for. The "circumstance," "luck," "variance," "happenstance," includes the random particulars of how two individuals interact. The issue is that there is literally nothing you can do to create this or guarantee it. It is a combination of so many different factors, only some of which even have anything to do with you (or her) specifically, i.e. your conversation, tone. timbre, etc. (and the reactions to these are random so there's no unilateral adjustment of any that will improve o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 07:13 AM |
| 2 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfI've always thought the just world hypothesis was stupid even before I knew it by name. As in when people would receive a person's complaint with not so subtly victim blaming I would wonder aloud what the fuck was going on. I think I was 11 the first time I noticed how stupid it was. It really is not so difficult to deploy empathy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfI'm not talking TRP. Just reality. Any man with experience comes to know generalities about women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:42 PM |
| 3 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfYes one would think simply repeating what a mountain of replicated research has found, that women are insanely superficial and that raw randomness combines with that shallowness to explain all of the variance in female mate choice would be simple....but we live in a land of creationists after all I'm sorry you're not the super sleuther of compatibility and character from text messages that you think you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:32 PM |
| 3 | Accepting the "red pill" framing is a trapExcept hypergamy as a TRP based sexual concept finds a lot of empirical support from a biological perspective, so.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:29 PM |
| 4 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfYes looks and randomness matter. And no this is just you confusing the halo effect for women judging anything of substance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Accepting the "red pill" framing is a trapIt really isn't important. You're not talking to a TRPer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Accepting the "red pill" framing is a trap...who cares, dude? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Accepting the "red pill" framing is a trapDid you even read what I wrote? TRP does not use it in the normal sense . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Accepting the "red pill" framing is a trapWhile TRP misses the mark often, and Rollo Tomassi is the example of "Older White Men Know Everything" -- no college degree edition, they did produce a single principle of value... Hypergamy. And credit where due, they framed it in a sexual sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:10 PM |
| 6 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfDefinitely not what is meant. Yes, I am familiar with all the qualities and items on bullet point checklists women believe they are assessing while applying naked superstitious prejudice to text on a computer/phone screen. What's bizarre is that you believe that, from these infinitely thin slices. that you're assessing those things and, as a follow up, that those things make up a meaningful part of the initial decision to date someone. The resounding empirical answer to both beliefs is that they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:05 PM |
| 4 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfYou mean how women are never attracted to men who lease fancy cars, rent suits, take steroids, etc.? Or how they never get tangled in years-long relationships with violent men who "concealed who they were" at the beginning? It's hard to take these Winnie the Poo hot-life takes seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 09:02 PM |
| 3 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfThe same, no, but exhibiting general trends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:54 PM |
| 12 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfGet more experience under your belt. Women are insanely hypercritical over things that in truth do not matter much to them. The reason men lie so much and conceal themselves especially early on (successful daters at least) is to minimize this phenomenon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:50 PM |
| 3 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfDefinitely not mostly a meme and fairly close to the random and bizarre nonsense women will use to assess compatibility. For example many women believe they can suss out good vibes from text messages on a dating apps....which is insane, given that less than 10% of the meaning in our words is contained in the words themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:48 PM |
| 5 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfBecause mainly women do it... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:46 PM |
| 4 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfI concur that it's not complicated. However what is bad and good (separate from his looks which is the only factor pertaining to him that matters) is random and superstitious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Being girlfriend zoned is worse than being sex zonedIf only all these risks were quantified somewhere and shown as ridiculously low... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:44 PM |
| 12 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfWitness dating subs littered with men wondering why their "great 4 hour first date" ended up in a ghost for your answer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:40 PM |
| 16 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfMen and women buy into the just world hypothesis across many issues and topics. We are irredeemably stupid as a species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfIts silly to say attraction can or cannot be negotiated. Very feminine to negotiate over some kind of intangible quality. Every single piece of evidence TRP points to for high attraction can be and is negotiated...j.e. time to sex, type of sex, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:38 PM |
| 9 | Women will reject or lose interest in a guy for the most frivolous reasons, and then completely rule him out no matter what he does to redeem himselfIt's more complicated than "they were never really into you." I've had women who exhibited high interest go cold when I've called them out on bullshit behavior. And yes, there are two rules: If she decides she doesn't like you before you fuck...it's over buh bye. If you fuck at least once but less than 4 or 5 times and she decides she doesn't like you...it's over buh bye. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?It is tech. It doesn't matter what the purpose of the tech is.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Being girlfriend zoned is worse than being sex zonedAn IUD? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:32 PM |
| 1 | If a Butch Sapphic Woman that passes as Masculine, who is significantly overweight can pull numerous pretty girls, than so can any guy, and just tells you that it’s all about confidence when it comes to dating. CMV.I've been in that situation a few times. Overall while fun, dating bisexual women for me got annoying. I don't know your experiences but they tended to be attention whores and I'm a naturally deadpan non-reactive person. And yes I did not like the weird rules of the one penis policy. I prefer to hunt for my own food 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:29 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?Put forward one example of a tech gadget we use that has increased in price over 40 years | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 08:24 PM |
| 4 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?Because of the TECH lmfao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 04:00 PM |
| 6 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?Because literally every piece of tech in this arena has dramatically dropped in cost over the years.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 03:45 PM |
| 7 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?It won't be ground breaking when it's low cost and affordable.... Hard to take a position like this seriously in a world full of devices that followed my stated trajectory. Game consoles, computers, cell phones.... Great article just about the cost of features on a smartphone in the 80s https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/how-much-did-the-stuff-on-your-smartphone-cost-30-years-ago/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 03:42 PM |
| 7 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?Yeah ok sure it'll just never be available and affordable to the huge market of men. That'd make no economic sense at all lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 03:05 PM |
| 4 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?Why would the made up economics of the future work like you're saying? They certainly don't seem to be based on historical trends --- tech products getting cheaper and more affordable with time. It likely wouldn't be that hard to get insurance to start covering these AI companions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:57 PM |
| 4 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?No they won't forever. Like everything else the cost will plummet until average Joe can pop 9.99 a month for the AI girl of his dreams. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?TRUE TO LIFE EDITION: MASOCHIST BOT 2.0 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:36 PM |
| 6 | Do you guys think AI humanoid girlfriends will be popular in the future?Yes OF skyrocketed in popularity because it's essentially a fake girlfriend. AI will make virtually the same service very cheap amd affordable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Being girlfriend zoned is worse than being sex zonedI tend to avoid being anyone's boyfriend and stick with casual dating. However, it's still acceptable to complain about that complaint. Why? Nothing else is being offered. Companionship <> sex. Ok so where's the incentive to get married? You can use birth control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:34 PM |
| 2 | Being girlfriend zoned is worse than being sex zonedAs they should. Being a companion to a woman, at least a modern one, is pure emotional labor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:25 PM |
| – | Men have already lost the gender war and it's bound to get worseYou need to think about it rationally. IQ is orthogonal to what women find desirable in a mate per research, so no, many very intellectually capable men are being shut out. In fact, many pro-social and positive attributes have zero to do with female mate selection. That's why your assertion is correct perhaps with MAYBE height and looks and maybe muscles. And that's even assuming it's the bottom 33% of attractiveness males and LIMITING it to just a third. The ENTIRE POINT is that the mating crit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:23 PM |
| 1 | The number of women having casual sex is highly exaggeratedThis OP ignores the fact that the figures regarding sex partner count aren't immutable stats for every area and place in the United States. The numbers in metro areas are MUCH HIGHER. IIRC in New York women had 25 partners on average or something like that. This assertion regarding women not being that horny and that men would fuck anything that moves is an over generalization. I definitely disagree with the last sentence. It may be accessible to a minority of men, but you really do not understa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 02:05 PM |
| 4 | Being girlfriend zoned is worse than being sex zonedJust when you think women can't complain about anything sillier... You know. getting sex only from someone just sucks! And hey, getting companionship and sex from someone isn't so great either! lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:58 PM |
| 1 | How come it is almost never considered that a guy can develop feelings for a woman he is friends with and that he just became friends to get into her pants?I find it interesting that you fail to have figured the main lesson out: why are you complaining about failure to other people, if you are a man? First, people love to moralize and pontificate despite not having any real experience with what you're going through --- how could they? They're not you. Second, you need a clearer understanding of social dynamics and women to answer your question. The kneejerk reactions to your statements are designed to shield the woman from any accountability for he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:55 PM |
| – | The reason why society shuns age gap dating is because the younger a girl is, the more shes covetedI don't know why this keeps getting repeated. Older men are dating younger women every day and likely at an increasing rate. So why do people keep whining about the 'complaints made about older men dating younger women?' Obviously nobody cares. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:50 PM |
| 0 | If a Butch Sapphic Woman that passes as Masculine, who is significantly overweight can pull numerous pretty girls, than so can any guy, and just tells you that it’s all about confidence when it comes to dating. CMV.It is racism to not find certain skin colors attractive virtually all of the time. The reason people have those preferences --- whether they admit it or not -- is a belief in the inferiority of one vis a vis the other predicated on race. Racism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:48 PM |
| 1 | If a Butch Sapphic Woman that passes as Masculine, who is significantly overweight can pull numerous pretty girls, than so can any guy, and just tells you that it’s all about confidence when it comes to dating. CMV.Bisexual women IME much prefer cock. The two times a butch lesbian competed with me for a woman. like I said above, it wasn't even a competition. I won without trying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:47 PM |
| 2 | If a Butch Sapphic Woman that passes as Masculine, who is significantly overweight can pull numerous pretty girls, than so can any guy, and just tells you that it’s all about confidence when it comes to dating. CMV.Untrue. Lesbians looking for lesbians won't find the search too challenging I suppose due to scarcity. Lesbians hitting on bisexuals --- they'll run into the same, if not worse, chop than men. The two times there was a female 'rival' to my affections for a particular woman (bisexual), it was an easy TKO for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:43 PM |
| 2 | If a Butch Sapphic Woman that passes as Masculine, who is significantly overweight can pull numerous pretty girls, than so can any guy, and just tells you that it’s all about confidence when it comes to dating. CMV.And it has not occurred to you that this narcissist (your words) isn't wildly lying or embellishing? Because, much apologies to your butch lesbian friend, I think she's full of shit. In my experience butch lesbians are extremely tryhard and emulate a cartoonish posture of masculinity. I've even had a few get in my face when I had to rein them in for one bit of obnoxious behavior or another. 100% of the time when their eyes locked on mine and they realized that any violence attempted would be met… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:39 PM |
| – | Men have already lost the gender war and it's bound to get worseUnfortunately most men choosing to opt out aren't being relied upon for anything in the first place, so their striking is likely to be ineffective and just ends up hurting them in the end. Women rely on men for attention. A lot of female self-esteem is buoyed by low status men. A lot of the complaining women do about low status men actually is just a form of status jockeying. It's just not something that they seem to understand well --- this ability to punch down to lift themselves up. When that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:22 PM |
| – | Men have already lost the gender war and it's bound to get worse100% of men don't have to be on board. If 33% of young men have currently dropped out of romance completely --- not even looking for sex --- I'm unsure why you think it's just unfathomable that in 60 years that number could well be > 80%. And an increasing majority of men are not doing so well. If we keep going this way, it will get much much worse. You're assuming a lot of guys are just living it up when literally a third of men who are at their horniest have decided to walk away from even tryi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:12 PM |
| 1 | What benefits do you value most in a long term monogamous relationship / marriage?I feel like a man out of time. I have a pretty classic look and build. Tall, dark. handsome. But I have morals and ethics that are strong and that disagree with most in this society. I haven't been particularly promiscuous. Not for lack of opportunity --- in my early mid 20's I indulged and grew bored of the entire scene very quickly. I believe long term relationships are ideal for men and women. However, I haven't found a suitable woman for a serious relationship in nearly 10 years. When I was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 01:00 PM |
| – | standards don’t matterThis OP assumes so many premises, ugh... The anger isn't at women for not liking anyone. Women are propped up with policies that burn the tax dollars of men. Women are a net negative for society in a tax revenue sense. Men pay for government. All of it. This inflates their standards. Literally imagine paying to help someone view you as "not good enough." Women are not punished for very damaging lies they frequently tell, eg paternity fraud aka 18 years of extortion and emotional damage (if disco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 12:26 PM |
| – | Men have already lost the gender war and it's bound to get worseIt goes in stages. I'd think they'd more organize into gangs or a general force of some kind. Guerilla warfare, kidnaps, rapes, etc. All standard terrorist tactics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 12:00 PM |
| 3 | “Males shouldn’t be jealous that is a female trait.” Jay-Z hit the nail on the head with that statement.This is such a stupid viewpoint. If being jealous and controlling is such a woman's job, why have several high profile atheletes/rockstars/celebrities/movie stars gotten into domestic violence disputes? Jay-Z posturing with stupid bullshit doesn't change reality. If dudes with more looks status and money than you by a multiplier of hundreds exhibit jealous behavior, that should tell you something. Your statement doesn't even make sense. Without a healthy gut feel for "jealousy" you're not going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 11:58 AM |
| – | Men have already lost the gender war and it's bound to get worseYou don't get why your artificial womb/surrogacy analogy doesn't work. Artificial womb is technology that lacks a human element, meaning that it likely will become affordable over time. It's hard to imagine the price point of surrogacy ever dipping much lower. Same for the egg donation market. Further, there's new technology that could make sperm/egg cells from any cell in the human body. Once AI girlfriends become viable and affordable --- again, that price point will be able to drop far lower … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 11:40 AM |
| 1 | [STUDY] There exists a positive correlation between being a bully and success in dating and sexual relationshipsUm being both a bully and a victim were correlated with dating partners lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/24 11:23 AM |
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