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Asking whether a vast abstraction like 'patriarchy' exists is not even a well-formed question imo. I think you can definitely point to societies and identify them as patriarchal without issue and people on this subreddit would be more willing to assent. The opposition here comes from its deployal in the discourse to suggest men are the sole arbiters of gendered relations in society which reifies the gender role of men being active agents while women are passive and acted-upon. I think it's clear…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/25 10:20 PM
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I have a very different reading of the Northman. As far as 'toxic masculinity' is concerned, I think the 'Viking' culture of Norse warriors epitomises that. Amleth doesn't return to kill his uncle to 'protect his family', he's doing it because his children are literally better of having a dead father than a cowardly father. Eggers is serious about not condescending to his historical subjects, including by accurately representing the moral universe of his characters, which for vikings is an 'hono…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/25 12:12 AM
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I think this is consistent with what I posted. The 'male loneliness epidemic' has cultural currency, even if the data doesn't bear that out. I suggested this is because it's a generalised loneliness epidemic, but gender polarisation makes it appear as a gendered issue. I also think the matters of the draft and harsher sentencing, while 'legal issues', speak more to cultural values, views of male expendability, danger, and worth. And, in regards to feminism, while the movement has always been bot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/25 12:13 AM
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My fear is that by saying "this issue is about everyone," you risk ignoring that fact that some of these issues actually are not about everyone and are targeted at individual groups. This is fair and I want to clarify. One of the issues with 'social movements' is that these 'movements' turn back in on themselves and become self-perpetuating. For example, 'LGBT' is not a natural category, what unites the movement is that they are gender and sexual minorities in Western society; an 'LGBT' movement…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/25 01:56 AM
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I broadly agree, but I do think the 'identity based' nature of political organisation is important. We casually slot 'race' and 'gender' together, as if 'race' isn't the prototypical case of arbitrary othering, and 'gender' as if it doesn't slice every human community in half. I think they are qualitatively different and we can't flatten all 'social issues' into 'movements' for 'interest groups'. There is specific moral lesson that affirms the value of males in saying, "boys are human beings who…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/25 10:57 PM
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It's hard but I think we need to resist resentment as much as possible. Righteous anger feels really good but we don't actually serve ourselves by dwelling on this stuff, on the unfairness of things. It's especially hard because articulating men's issues is so difficult, and often feels like walking on eggshells; the glimmers of recognition and catharsis of venting online feels really great, in a twisted way. But in the end we must give up the resentment and realise we really are not so differen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 06:26 AM
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Yeah, I appreciate that. It's just not who you want to be. You said it feels 'gross' and I'm just curious what that gross feeling is, or where it comes from, if you get me? Does the median man feel something similar when 'urged' to identify with a female gender role maybe?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/24 05:32 AM
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It's very interesting. If you don't mind me asking, do you think it's the 'expectations' of the 'Demigod' which revolt you? Almost like the feeling of being watched, as if you're being urged on to do something but you're not sure what? And you should already know how? Or do you feel like there's something sinister or dirty about it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/24 04:59 AM
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Nietzsche developed the concept of slave morality specifically with reference to Christianity. I'm not a Nietzsche reader or anything, I've just adopted the term to diagnose an issue I see, but there is definitely a relationship with Christianity. I definitely agree that a class-based approach is desirable, but seems like class consciousness is non-existent in the West. Maybe among the uberwealthy they know the game, but people self-select class-wise so much that they get stuck in a bubble and d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/24 04:16 AM
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The vast majority of men are not 'the Demigod' nor do they necessarily aspire to him. They are real human beings, not cultural fictions. I think 'effeminacy' has a complex relationship with masculinity that I was not willing to get into in this post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/24 04:10 AM
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Yeah I very much agree. I think Progressives in the West indulge in a heavy dose of 'slave morality' in the sense that suffering is associated with innocence and martyrdom. The Demigod epitomises Agency and Competency so is antithetical to the 'unjust suffering' valued under slave morality. The Demigod can take whatever you throw at him, so is in some regards an easy target. 'Punching up' will always punch the Demigod.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/24 03:34 AM
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Yeah I agree. It's kind of baked into Liberalism (Big L, the ideology of Bourgeoisie) with its focus of individualism and competition. Focusing on success stories and personal achievement does encourage those things, but also, well, you can't win at everything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/24 11:07 PM
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Yeah? I mean, tragic deaths obviously play a large role in Greek myths. As literature, especially the oldest layers which reflect PIE culture, they still definitely exemplify 'masculine virtues'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/24 10:56 PM
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I think the cultural image of the 'Demigod' has gone through some recent transformations. Since women have been locked out of identifying with the Demigod (and there definitely are women who do) there is the desire to 'humble' him, as with the Frat bros. This kind of plays out in 'gamma bias'. The Demigod is made more gender neutral: there is nothing 'inherently masculine' about his confidence and competency, but the Creature remains entirely masculine. It's possible that men are just unwilling …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/24 10:46 PM
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I chose Demigod because it carries the connotation of 'superhuman'. Not a mere mortal but a semi-divine figure. The reason so many Greek heroes come to tragic ends is because of their Warrior culture; warriors cannot die shameful passive deaths, but die in battle. They very much still fit the model of 'ideals of masculinity', just in a culture where that ideal is slightly different.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/24 10:28 PM
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Huge elephant in the room imo. Class is obfuscated so much, and since you can 'aspire' to wealth in a way you can't 'aspire' to being another race or sexuality, it's just not emotionally salient.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/24 03:36 AM
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Yeah I recognise that. But personally it's just water off my back. I've been given opportunities to invest my identity elsewhere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 11:52 PM
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Cheers. I feel like it's not getting a lot of attention because it's long winded but I've been stewing on this for a while. Personally, I don't really mind when people shit talk 'white men'. Like, I feel like I can take it. What pisses me off is when other people act like their shit don't stink and their history is sparkling clean.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/24 11:11 PM
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I think the question is maybe ill-posed. The 'moral' problem here is the question of treating people as 'ends-in-themselves' vs as 'means-to-an-end' (classic Kantian moral philosophy). To sexually objectify someone is to treat them as a 'means-to-an-end' for sexual gratification. Of course, we abundantly treat people as 'means-to-an-end' in a million different situations, effectively 'objectifying' them in some sense, as we deny their individual agency; I 'objectify' the cashier as to me they ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 04:11 AM
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Focussing on videogames is absolutely the last thing this subreddit should do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/24 12:28 AM
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It's not sophistry. The experience of 'red' has a physical basis, but that does not mean the category of 'red' can naively be treated as 'real', and this is genuinely meaningful when doing something like gauging how people subjectively 'choose' red, as some cultures will include 'orange' under that category and there is no physical grounds to dispute their definition of red. And again you don't need to separate things to quantify them, we're under the ubiquitous effect of the sun and the earth's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/24 03:48 AM
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Now in the real world we don't yet have accurate means of determining where that inflection point actually is, but it theoretically exists. Your little toy model in which theoretically there is a base rate of '15% red preference' is fine and all, but what complicates it is that 'red' is also a culturally defined (ie socially conditioned) category. By implying you can 'neutrally condition' people in a way which reveals the 'base rate' already presupposes a lot about how humans behave. I can under…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/24 02:38 AM
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The point I'm making is that: The closest you could get is a society that has neutral conditioning, where social conditioning exists but the balance of positive and negative conditioning essentially cancels out to near zero conditioning is not true, because the process of growing-up is inherently an act of social conditioning which cannot be made 'more neutral' or even exists as something which can be 'neutral'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/24 02:04 AM
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Social conditioning is a community feedback system that incentivizes certain behaviours by socially ostracizing or raising up people depending on what they do. A process which starts at birth and ends at death, and is especially acute in children. There is not option to have 'neutral' social conditioning, it's a necessary part of maturing as a human being, a social animal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/24 12:16 AM
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There can't be a case without 'social conditioning' or even 'balanced conditioning' that doesn't make sense. 'Social conditioning' aka growing up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/24 04:24 AM
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It's because men are assumed to have agency and be able to control their circumstances while women are not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 04:50 AM
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Honestly dude this shit is not a mystery. 'Women' are not 'feminists'. Generally when people interact with you they're not thinking 'how do my behaviours reflect upon gendered behaviour in society more generally' they're thinking 'what does this guy think of my ass' and they'll get upset if it's not what they want to hear. People are just self-centred. If 'feminism' gets a woman some benefit she's gonna take it, even if she couldn't give two shits about the 'movement'. Women confusing you is not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 11:35 PM
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You should check my post history and read my most recent post. I agree with you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 12:00 AM
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I think this is a good post and, in my opinion, gets to the heart of contemporary gender politics. All of this to say that our perception of the world is very, very flawed because it is heavily dependent on us for data, but we're simple limited beings who can't possibly just approach each certain topic and have the exact right amount of attention as to not negatively affect our perception too much before moving on. You're right here, and I find the concept of 'Lifeworld' to be illustrative here.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/24 05:48 AM
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I'm becoming more and more convinced that so many of our social issues, and the shape discussion about them takes online, originate in how we think about 'victims'. People dislike victim blaming---it's unanimously a bad thing. This must be because our concept of 'victimhood' must have 'innocent' as a precondition. We have a cultural model for how someone can be the 'victim' of family circumstance and the brutal prison system. There is space for sympathy here. 'Rapists' are never victims; there i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 05:54 AM
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There have been holy wars waged by Buddhists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 12:25 AM
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Feminism is an abstract concept, we can't pretend there is some 'genuine' core to it, while the aspects we don't like are bastardisations. It's identified with a series of movements throughout the 20th century and up to today---the 'content' of what feminism is is only this historical association. 'Abandoning feminism' doesn't make sense. We are responding to it culturally no matter what. People who are attracted to online discussions about gender are disproportionately going to be people with g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 02:57 AM
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What does the practice consist of? Intersectionality is about understanding how 'oppression' 'intersects' but couldn't it just as much lead to confusion about exactly this? Maybe 'oppression' across gender, race, class, and sexuality are all qualitatively different? Gender issues are inseparable from biological concerns (eg reproductive rights); racial issues aren't. 'Class oppression' isn't based on 'unconscious biases', it's the entire basis of a class society. Discrimination against people on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 01:28 AM
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My point is that sex as a motivation is tied up with status and masculinity; someone in the comments offered their experience of how other stressors in life manifested as desperation for sex, for example. This does not mean that it is the sum total of men's issues related to status or respect or mental health even. Or that men are only motivated by sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 01:23 PM
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How many times does the author reference emotional intimacy? The epidemic of male loneliness, primarily caused by the steady erosion of the male identity? How many times does the author reference anything except "men want sex, and sex is what reaffirms masculinity"? I didn't at all because that was not the point of the discussion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 12:37 AM
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As the author of that post, I feel like your reading my post expecting it to be something it's not. You even say: In reality, this is something that I see frequently; men who confuse sexual intercourse with satisfying their emotional needs, and have it as such a core aspect of their identity that to not be having sex means that their identity is challenged. This is essentially my point, except you confine it to 'a small subset of men' who 'only care about sex'. I suspect that the men you are tal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 12:35 AM
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As the author of that post, my intention was to highlight that sex is a major motivator beyond the desire for pleasure precisely because it is conflated with masculinity, status, and respect. I wanted to confine the discussion solely to sex, which is why I don't think it's fair to say I 'reduced' everything to sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/24 12:25 AM
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Sorry for the late comment, but there is a meaningful way that yes, these social movements become superfluous. I think they can become polarising and counter-productive if they are not tied to explicit goals. Maybe this counts as an example, but after Oberfegell in the US, the LGBT rights movement had won their most apparent legal battle but were still flush with money, naturally turning to other aspects of the LGBT movement such as trans acceptance. This seems to have raised trans issues to bei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/24 12:56 AM
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Men are way ahead of you. It's sexual validation, not fulfilment, which is missing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/24 12:48 AM
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I agree with you. People here saying that this 'distracts' from a political solution have got it wrong imo. Although there are some rights worth fighting for (custody rights, ban of circumcision) mostly our issues are social and cultural, and need to be changed socially and culturally. I really think we need to move away from 'rights' as the default language we discuss social issues with. Civil rights throughout the 20th century were so successful because discrimination was blatant and codified …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/24 12:47 AM
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Thanks for the input. Self-control is always difficult to exercise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 11:59 PM
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Sex is great, yeah, but we live in the future man. You can fry your brain with drugs, weird porn, and electric sex toys if you're really seeking pleasure. There is motivation beyond the sheer hedonism of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 11:58 PM
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The value I myself place on it is irrelevant, but by conforming to the expectations you reduce friction in social interactions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 11:55 PM
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When trying to understand the past its always through a glass darkly. One suspects the amount of messaging around 'chastity' and 'chivalry' we read in medieval texts is precisely because people were not living up to those expectations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 11:54 PM
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As discussed elsewhere in the thread, lack of sex becomes a microcosm of general isolation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 11:52 PM
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I think the number of sexually frustrated/virgin men is much larger than the number of self-identified 'incels' and I suspect many do internalise both the negative self-image incels propagate with the blackpill ideology AND the negative self-image anti-incels propagate with their rhetoric.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 11:52 PM
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I agree that male sexuality is demonised while female sexuality is praised as part of the feminist paradigm, that's a big spot of bias. I just look at the culture we have now and it seems so hyper-sexual. At least in advertising and definitely within some community spaces (especially online). Seems like we live in a time of unparalleled sexual openness, and to me it seems like this won't last. Maybe there is 'sexual negativity' on the horizon and I'm just sympathetic lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 11:50 PM
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There has always been status competition and sexual disparities. There is literature which speaks about how easy it was for a knight to sleep with a peasant woman---no shit a well-fed super fit rich kid who lives in a castle is going to many sexual opportunities. Eliot Rodgers was all kinds of messed up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 02:11 PM
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I agree, but I think there is a distinction in exactly how the sexes are motivated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 02:06 PM
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Incels have internalized that bullshit and that's why they feel like shit. Very true, it's ironic that the messaging towards them is that they fail to accept they're shitty people, lol. I think most are well aware.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 02:05 PM
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'Cheat code' in retrospect is a bit too gamifying and I should have used it. What I mean is that being known to be a 'womaniser' confers a sense of masculinity upon men who may not otherwise conform to gender expectations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 02:02 PM
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Absolutely. They're used because they're effective, because they do push men's buttons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 05:36 AM
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Thanks for the input. While I have been single, it was like all of those things like frustration, insecurity, and loneliness were funneled into "not being single" or "wanting to have sex." Yeah, I think this must be fairly common. Definitely one big divide on the incel question is the idea these men are unbelievably bent out of shape about something as 'trivial' as sex; it's not just not having the sexual release, it's that alienation from your own sexual being is a big emotional siren blaring y…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 04:42 AM
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I disagree about this 'sex-negative streak', which fwiw I think is very overblown. I think's more that in the mainstreaming of 'feminism' as a set of values its just transformed into a childish boys vs girls cultural valence. It's 'feminist' to 'celebrate femininity' and therefore being a hyper-feminine 'hot girl' is 'feminist'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 04:35 AM
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I definitely agree, and I think once you begin to peel back the layers of what constitutes 'femininity' you'll find again concern with sexual validation. Also, while lack of sexual validation is widespread amongst men, there are definitely women who are belittled for not fitting beauty standards and I wish incel communities could better internalise that although this is a gendered issues there are still women excluded from the dating game in a meaningful way---and these women are not being serve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 04:10 AM
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One factor of the present historical moment is that public life has totally evaporated into a puff of capital accumulation and social stratification. Being 'engaged politically' used to mean interacting as a public person within your community, but social atomisation has reduced participation in 'public life' in this sense to basically nil especially among young people. Now we are left as a bunch of individuals with the view of society as an essentially alien entity thrust on us, threatening to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 12:09 AM
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You're right about that, what gave me away?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/24 02:50 AM
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There's a distinction between what's in the mythology and what's the actual rules in society. It's also hard to say much about how the sagas that survive represent the genuine beliefs either. To be honest I don't know much so I'm not gonna go sat anymore.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 02:04 PM
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We definitely project modern sensibilities onto people of the past. The recent discussion of female hunters in hunter-gatherer societies is interesting, because it's definitely true that men are the majority of hunters in those societies, but women are not necessarily excluded from being hunters, it's just less common. Gender roles seen less rigid in small scale societies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 08:08 AM
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Yeah you're right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 10:19 AM
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I say homonormative because it seems that positive references to 'love' and 'romance' in classical Greece were primarily in the context of male-male relations. I agree 'homonormative' is a bit extreme but it seems tautological to call human beings heteronormative simply because we reproduce sexually.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 06:02 AM
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I agree for the most part, but patriarchal societies are not inherently heteronormative. Classical Greece could even be described as homonormative in some respects.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 05:03 AM
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There is no monocultural set of uncontroversial gender norms, no. There are multiple conflicting ones; men and women still suffer under the expectations of many different systems of gender expectations, many of which are well discussed here. Maybe to put things differently: gender roles are no longer taken for granted. The existence of this subreddit is evidence of that. For the majority of human beings gender roles have been taken for granted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 02:37 AM
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How? By norm I mean a social agreed upon roles, and I don't think we have this level of social agreement anymore. The ground is moving faster than you think. What could the 'crisis of masculinity' refer to other than a breakdown of gender relations which were once considered timeless and immutable. I obviously don't mean there aren't still enforcements of behaviour, boys don't cry, girls are princess etc. or whatever the fuck, but again I think these are changing faster than we think.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 02:27 AM
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The point I was building up to in my post is that in modern Western societies we have no gender norms, just different people competing to fill the vacuum, and undefinable concepts such as feminism and patriarchy conceal this fact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 02:19 AM
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I didn't mean to suggest that just because men dominate society means society is dominated for the benefit of men. I do believe that who holds the power in concrete terms is significant, even if their gender identity is of secondary importance to their class, cultural, and familial background. Male dominance in positions of power speaks more to the gendered nature of the culture of power, rather than gendered relations in society writ large.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 02:14 AM
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The fact women are 51% of voters are women is not an especially ground-shaking fact and is not really relevant. You have become way to hung-up over my offhand comment about society being 'male-dominated' which, I used explicitly in contrast to the term 'patriarchal' simply to denote that men continue to succeed and rise to positions of power in contemporary society. A society dominated by men is not necessarily dominated for men, and women have a lot of unacknowledged social power. I don't see w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 02:10 AM
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I think there is something to be said of the fact that 'toxic masculinity' is to some degree necessary in cultures where you are likely to be attacked by hostile groups of people, eg in a society which practices bloodfeuds.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 02:01 AM
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99 times out of 100, when people say something like "Women aren't allowed abortions because of Patriarchy". or "Men struggle to succeed in school because of Feminism". or conversely as you suggested "Feminism is working on making it acceptable for men to show emotions other than anger". you're attributing causation to an abstract concept which labels cultural attitudes, not actually coherent entities. There are many more specific causes which actually lead to any of those things listed which are…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 01:59 AM
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"Patriarchy" is way too broad of a term. But to me it isn't "the major cause of gender issues", but just another symptom. This is something I tried to convey in my post. There is a material basis to the formation of patriarchy is complex civilisations, especially in securing the succession of male heirs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 01:56 AM
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There is factually a movement called feminism. Is that the case? Seems like time has simply moved past that, and we struggle to actually define it. How can you say it 'factually exists' if no one agrees what it actually is? Patriarchy as a form of social organisation centred around male heads of households is a clear-cut concept which applies to numerous societies---outside this context it becomes a label to suggest a host of values. Feminism denotes a number of 20th century social movements, an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 01:53 AM
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I am saying that neither patriarchy nor feminism refer to actual power structures, but rather label cultural attitudes. I provided context in order to say that 'patriarchy' can convincingly be applied to genuine historic power structures, rather than just those attitudes. I also highlighted that historically feminism was a legitimate social movement---which I believe is no longer the case, rather informing different aspects of society from the mainstream to more fringe activists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 01:49 AM
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I can agree in insofar as no one identifies as being part of the patriarchy (well maybe some Tateoid types). Still, I think as soon as feminism became the 'norm' then it became hard to define, especially since it contradicted the feminist image of being radical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 02:03 PM
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Using power is conditioned on having it. The men in power advance women's interests insofar as it benefits them and their conception of gender relations. Women have something I think could better be described as a parallel power structure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 02:00 PM
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I do believe women have a lot of softer social power, especially within households and as leaders of communities. It's just a fact that historically male domination has been a legal, rather than just 'social' or 'cultural' factor---not that those are entirely distinct. I don't know what to tell you. I already made the point that nowadays there seems to be a bit of a 'vacuum' in agreed upon gender relations. Women are 50% of that conversation, and I agree that feminist ideology obscures the fact …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 01:23 PM
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I agree. The modern economic liberation of women will naturally have sociological consequences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 01:16 PM
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I agree with this, it's definitely overrated. I do think talking about the sociological origins of power is important though, and that has been historically gendered to an extreme degree---and by gendered I don't mean women were excluded, but merely expressed their power in different ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 01:14 PM
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I absolutely agree that women have a large amount of unacknowledged social power, just of a different nature to the social power than men possess. People use their power to protect those they care about, men and women. 'Who have the power matters very little" this is silly, of course it matters. I can see why feminists feel they live in a male dominated society, but I also agree that men do not really have 'solidarity' and are willing to belittle other men for female attention. I think the situa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 01:09 PM
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