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Discussiondarthbarracuda/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:22 AM
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Truly, much of the unhappiness women suffer in their struggle to appear attractive is inflicted by other women. I've heard this several times; that women don't really put on makeup for men, they put on makeup for other women.
/r/MGTOW17/08/15 11:27 PM
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It's not my fault I feel bad, it's everyone else's fault! Sure seems to me that the majority of teenage feminists or any feminists in general that don't think about their position for more than a few seconds before posting a stupid video on the Internet are a bunch of whiny, self-martyring, "woe to me" women.
/r/MGTOW17/08/15 11:26 PM
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Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:02 PM
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Thank you for your incredibly though-provoking advice. That's what I need to do! Just take a couple pills and hey looky loo everything's okay now! Thank you Dr. Armchair Psychologist! -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 11:01 PM
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You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 10:57 PM
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In which case, I say it is the moral thing to do to reject your genetic programming and abstain from having children even if you want to. You could always adopt a kid. There's already a shit ton of orphans looking for a caring adult to raise them without someone bringing more kids into the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 10:55 PM
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Truly, it's one of the things I hate the most, when people make unnecessary suffering out to be something poetic and meaningful. Like sorry you got bone cancer and will die in a few weeks, but hey, it's made you appreciate the good times...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 10:54 PM
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You think they are awesome. You love them. You decided they would exist, because you wanted them. Did you ever actually think about their opinion? Did you ever think that maybe you'd be throwing them into this world and forcing them to endure life? What about the one who died? Do you think they really appreciated being born just so they could die early?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 10:51 PM
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Also called: FUCKING INSANE. Also called HAS NO ARGUMENT
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 12:50 PM
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Not really, considering it's important to understand why I vehemently disagree with the idolization of childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:07 PM
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everyone thinks you should be masculine because it is freaking awesome. Granted, there are aspects that are cool. They are cool because they run parallel to our genetic disposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:04 PM
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You do have a moral imperative if you're the one acting upon the other entity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:02 PM
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Define "have it better."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:00 PM
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First off, my life isn't that bad that is warrants suicide. Secondly, suicide is a very very very difficult thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:59 PM
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If I saw my chair in half, that action has no moral value. We don't have to act in the best interests of something that has no best interests because it does not exist. Correct. Even if we did want to act in the best interests we would have to ask ourselves what is that potential person most likly to want once they are alive, and the most likely answer to that is they would want to live. That's not good enough. Think about how poorly things could go wrong in said person's life. If not born they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 06:20 AM
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Interesting points. When you go outside, you consent to the fact that it's inevitable that you'll bump into someone, so it's not immoral to bump into them. But you didn't consent to being shot in the head on the highway, so that's immoral. Most likely they would want to live. Hypothetically speaking, if a person could look at their entire future before being born, would they deem it worth it? Would they deem all the useless suffering, all the tedious work and annoying jobs and people? Would they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 06:14 AM
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Right. But if someone doesn't have any volition, then you ought to act in their best interests. The key difference here is that not only is this person non existent, but they are also potential. For example, there's no way the Moon is ever going to become conscious, so we don't have to worry about the morality of, let's say, mining on it. But an unborn baby has the potential of becoming a conscious entity, and entity capable of suffering. And so we act in their best interests. I just happen to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 06:02 AM
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If a person is standing still and someone bumps into them, they did not consent to that. But they did consent to it. It is understood that by going outside you stand the chance of being bumped into. Furthermore, by your logic we should not render any medical aid to any unconcious person. Fair concern. Although I would like to explain that just because I don't think birth is moral, doesn't mean I embrace death. These unconscious people don't want to die (most likely). They want to live. So it's o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:46 AM
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Erm, these people were forced to enlist or they would be imprisoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:41 AM
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Fair enough. But also remember that these people decided to be in the same area as you, just as you decided to be in the same area as they did. Therefore, they have essentially given consent to being bumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:39 AM
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For example morality can only exist thanks to the existance of moral beings. Your take on morality would have all the moral beings die out and thus eliminate morality completly. Awesome, so now we can both agree that you do not subscribe to moral realism, or that moral facts exists independently from entities. Cool. You asign properties to non entities. I do not. I assign properties to potential entities. These potential entities rely on already existing entities to have any value. You imply tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:36 AM
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Why would we consider Charles Cullen to be a hero? He was a despicable person who murdered tons of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:31 AM
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Right, but it would also be your responsibility by proxy because you brought this person into the world in the first place. When a soldier dies in a stupid war, it is only the responsibility of the enemy soldier that killed him? Or is it also the responsibility of the politicians that sent these people to war?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:29 AM
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I find that incredibly selfish and uncompassionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:27 AM
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I'm not angry at the universe (I'm a nihilist, I believe it is uncaring to our condition), but I am saddened by how cruel nature can be. A lioness can not, as far as we know, think about whether or not she should have children. It's completely instinctual, so although she is having offspring, it can't be immoral because she cannot deliberate. But a human can deliberate. A human as the ability to analyze a situation, and thus morality (in my opinion of course) arises. I'm not angry at the first s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:26 AM
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Its OK to have the child. I disagree. It is not OK to have a child because you have no idea what will happen to it. For all you know, it may be kidnapped and brutally tortured and murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:22 AM
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So you're pretty much a utilitarian, for the greater good. I would allow that the only, only time it is moral to have a kid is if it is either guaranteed that they will have a good life and enjoy it or if their contributions will make the lives of everyone else much better. But unfortunately there is no way of predicting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:21 AM
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Can you explain to me where you disagree with me without committing the naturalistic fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:19 AM
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There's a difference between you bumping into a person accidentally and you forcing an entire existence onto someone without them saying it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:15 AM
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Just saying that you are assuming moral nihilism without really giving any justification. To clarify, I'm a negative utilitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:14 AM
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Your morality seems to have no basis. Why do you say this? You would have to prove that it's immoral to "violate a non-existent entity". Replace "non-existent" with "potential." Hopefully you'll see why it's immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:12 AM
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Depends on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:11 AM
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My point is that you are saying that since the universe is the way it is, we should just accept it and say it's cool. I disagree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:10 AM
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You sure about that? I'm sure the folks at /r/askphilosophy would love to hear it. And just because it's subjective doesn't mean it's suddenly okay to do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:09 AM
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Is it okay to have a kid just to torture it until it dies? If you say no, then you are ascribing a type of consent to this potential child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:05 AM
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Philosophical pessimism is what you are looking for (I'm a philosophical pessimist). Schopenhauer (without a doubt the most important pessimist), Zapffe (extremely illuminating on how we limit our consciousness to avoid panic and despair), Cioran (for that good ol' fashion depressingly bleak literature haha), Camus (for a brighter pessimistic philosophy), Benatar (for a modern look at antinatalism), and Ligotti (for some hardcore, excellently-written philosophical-nihilism horror). Cheers :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 05:04 AM
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I'm am not joking and would appreciate it if you treated this topic with more respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:57 AM
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Look, bro, it's not like I'm building a contraption in my basement with the plan that it will obliterate all of humanity. -_- All I'm saying is that if humanity were to be sterilized or go extinct, I wouldn't be too concerned. What's the imperative of keeping the human race alive? It's going to go extinct one of these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:49 AM
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Which is why I said that reasoning commits the naturalistic fallacy. Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:47 AM
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No, I'm not trolling. There's no way of knowing beforehand if a child would want to be born, if they could have an opinion. There is no way of knowing beforehand if they will have an enjoyable, good life. You don't have to be existing to have it be a violation of your consent. For example, if you had a child, but decided to make a legal document beforehand that made it so all the money they made in their life went directly to you, it would be a violation of the child's consent, even if they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:43 AM
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Cause when you don't have any arguments, it's best to call the other person a sociopath. -_-
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:39 AM
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Why is it funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:35 AM
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Would you say that having a baby for the sole purpose of torturing it until it dies is a violation of consent? Would you say that the baby would be "better off" not being born? Secondly, once a person is alive they have options and a will. They have a chance. If not born they have nothing. Is this a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:34 AM
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No, in other words, life is not worth starting, but it may be worth continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:29 AM
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Yeah, cool. That's great that you like your life. But remember that you didn't want to live before you were born, it was against your will. Remember this in case something horrific happens to you, or you begin to see a decline in your general quality of life. The ethical imperative is suffering; pleasure is supererogatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:29 AM
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Bs. BS on your BS. It may not be be physically painful but it's still extremely psychologically and emotionally jarring. Their own fault. Don't blame the parents for following their own biological imperative. I want to make sure that you understand that antinatalists such as myself generally do not "hate" parents, we understand they were tricked by hormones and genetics and marketing. You can't blame someone for not being able to kill themselves. :\
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:26 AM
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The unborn children won't know any better. It's not like they are wishing they were here. And what happens if you do birth one and it ends up being depressed and suicidal and has a crappy life? Then you just took a chance and lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:20 AM
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Being an antinatalist =/= suicidal and depressed. Although I do admit I am often depressed, I am not longer suicidal and do happen to enjoy certain aspects of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:18 AM
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If it feels good, whatever. Just don't have kids in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:11 AM
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Are you serious right now?! Do you know how difficult it is to commit suicide, even if you are completely desperate? Suicide is not just like flushing the toilet, even a severely depressed person has to battle their instincts and emotions. It is a severely difficult and scary thing to do; just because you are depressed doesn't mean you don't fear death or fear the unknown. As Cioran said: don't bother with suicide, because by the time you're born, it's too late. There's a reason Ligotti supports…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:10 AM
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There is no guarantee that your child will be happy or have a successful life. Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:02 AM
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It's a violating of consent. The baby didn't ask to be born, and you have no way of predicting with absolute certainty if they will live a life worth starting. By birthing a child, you are essentially playing Russian Roulette with their life, against their will, for your own selfish pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 04:01 AM
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This can be applied to just about anyone who is too lazy or insecure to go out in public with their opinion, but still wants to feel validated by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:59 AM
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Completely agree with you on everything but: Only having kids with a person that is: intelligent, beautiful, and tall. While you take the opinion that most of the time having children is not ethical, I take the position that it is never ethical, even if the child's life may turn out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:51 AM
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When TRP says anything along the lines of "embrace your genes" they are most likely trying to say "behave like a testosterone fueled male". Nothing to do with childbirth Thanks, I probably should have clarified that better. Again, I'm just getting started into this community. These masculine genes are fundamentally meant to get you to propogate these same genes. Do you believe that if you lack a desire to birth a child that sex becomes meaningless? Because if so than you are part of an infinity …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:48 AM
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I hate how men and women are so separated here. Like it's completely reasonable to generalize about the other sex but then when it comes to your own it's much more personal. It's not that there's two camps, males and females. It's that there's one camp, human, that is made of billions of people that share similar traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:39 AM
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Are you saying that the value of women increases when it comes to childbirth and parental care, but decreases drastically when it comes to the workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 03:34 AM
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