dartymallet Archive

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2	GF who doesn't believe in men's rights You're correct: feminism doesn't have to be anti-men. It might be an idea to reframe your argument e.g. if feminism acts to guarantee rights to women, why would you not want those same rights for men? Or for specific issues like paternal rights, you can easily portray this as "courts typically see women as caregivers and homemakers, and so automatically give women custody - this is wrong, women are capable of strong careers, having their own life, arent as fragile as old white men believe etc". …	/r/MensRights	31/07/22 08:01 PM
3	No comment allowed and facts disposed of. Yes, according to 'The Guardian' it's all misogyny! To be fair to the Guardian, it is an opinion piece. Maybe they could do better to not entertain this sort of bullshit though	/r/MensRights	02/06/22 05:04 PM
17	Many countries still practice male only conscription, included so-called "gender equal" countries such as Austria and Finland To be fair, if you consider male-only conscription an example of misogyny you'd wonder why feminists aren't outspoken against it.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	13/10/21 05:19 PM
2	What are your thoughts of Jordan Peterson? Yeah, that's very true - i'm not an expert at this, but some research would suggest that there is no link between IQ and wealth	/r/MensRights	08/09/21 06:02 PM
4	What are your thoughts of Jordan Peterson? I appreciate how he encourages men to take control of their lives, be motivated, strive for a strong career etc, and this is especially important in a society where very few people are telling men and boys that they are inherently 'good'. I wish more people encouraged and empowered men the way he does. The problem I have with him is how reductive he can be about people, especially women. I've seen so many guys quote Jordan Peterson's 'agreeableness' theory to state why women's careers don't adva…	/r/MensRights	08/09/21 11:49 AM
31	Leader of the UK Labour Party claims the majority of violent crime is committed against women. To anyone here that thinks that the proposed bill is one sided and only aims to tackle misogyny, please take a look at this The current proposal (named 'Hate Crime (Misandry and Misogyny) Bill') states that this is ... A Bill to make motivation by misandry or misogyny an aggravating factor in criminal sentencing; to require police forces to record hate crimes motivated by misandry or misogyny; and for connected purposes. Although the coverage on social media by politicians is focused on combatin…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/03/21 11:23 AM
1	Council of Europe, yet another distinguished organization letting Feminists turn it into a propaganda outlet. Nothing about the rampant sexism men face. Feminism truly is like cancer. I agree with you completely. But if that's what the Council of Europe mean, then why didnt they say that? They sort of touch on this in the big iceberg diagram showing overt and covert examples of sexism. They use 'rigid roles for women and men' for covert sexism (fair play to them, great inclusion) but then use 'condoning violence against women' - its not difficult to add 'and men' to that sentence. You have a good point, but I think whoever wrote the article just didnt do their research well e…	/r/MensRights	22/01/21 05:58 PM
7	Council of Europe, yet another distinguished organization letting Feminists turn it into a propaganda outlet. Nothing about the rampant sexism men face. Feminism truly is like cancer. I understand where you're coming from, sexism doesn't need to be a pissing contest. I feel the issue with the Council of Europe's page on sexism is that it deliberately stating that women are the primary targets of sexism, then only showing statistics that support that. Their statistic saying that 63% of women journalists have faced verbal abuse for example - this statistic doesn't mean anything about sexism in itself. Maybe journalism as a whole gets a lot of verbal abuse including male journal…	/r/MensRights	22/01/21 03:58 PM
2	France: Japanese chef driven to suicide after fake sexual assault allegations posted online, family reveal Yeah, definitely agree that unproven allegation =/= false accusation but some people might perceive it differently, so won't go through with reporting the crime at all for fear of facing a false allegation suit. I'm totally on board with punishing proven false allegations, and sentencing should definitely reflect the original alleged crime. Can't be willing to lie and let a man do 20 years for nothing, then not face a similar sentence yourself.	/r/MensRights	02/10/20 05:53 PM
2	France: Japanese chef driven to suicide after fake sexual assault allegations posted online, family reveal Yeah, all sensible suggestions tbf. Do CPS really only allow selected evidence? That doesn't sound fair at all!	/r/MensRights	02/10/20 05:48 PM
1	France: Japanese chef driven to suicide after fake sexual assault allegations posted online, family reveal Wow bar is definitely higher for false rape allegation than rape - interesting stats. I know that a lot of women choose not to report a rape because they're worried the offender may not be found guilty, or the case even go to court. Based on that, I can see why CPS want to remove the obstacles for women reporting rape - by pushing through cases with less chance of conviction they are trying to make it so genuine rapists don't get away with it. Does this method work? I don't think so, but I don't…	/r/MensRights	02/10/20 04:52 PM
7	France: Japanese chef driven to suicide after fake sexual assault allegations posted online, family reveal probably nearly all rape allegations are false Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with this statement. I'm all for men's rights, but this is a stretch. Rape is a real thing, we can't just call all women liars. no risk of prosecution for lying Again, this isn't true. Maybe a lot of women who falsely accuse men of rape get away with it, but theres plenty of examples of women being charged and convicted of false accusations. Rape is bad. False accusation of rape is bad. We can't say that rape doesn't…	/r/MensRights	02/10/20 04:21 PM
5	France: Japanese chef driven to suicide after fake sexual assault allegations posted online, family reveal Yeah, I already agree with your first point. I'm not sure who is getting the special treatment in this circumstance though? Do you mean that because of the UK definition of rape, men can't accuse a woman and receive compensation? I'm not saying I agree with this compensation, I'm saying that I can see their reasoning - very few rape cases actually go to court.	/r/MensRights	02/10/20 03:58 PM
-12	France: Japanese chef driven to suicide after fake sexual assault allegations posted online, family reveal To look at the other side of it though, I can understand why compensation wouldn't require a conviction. It could take months or even years for a conviction of rape, and the majority of rape accusations (true or not) may never go to court. That said, I agree that it may incentivise false allegations. Men really should get compensated too if the allegation is proven to be false.	/r/MensRights	02/10/20 02:28 PM
18	Women who are proven to have lied about rape should be required to register as sex offenders. Also a good point to make that mud sticks, true accusation or not. Ched Evans was acquitted of rape but not after his career was ruined. Jessica Ennis threatened to pull her name from a Sheffield United stand when Evans was training with the club AFTER finishing his sentence. At the time, he wasnt yet acquitted which begs the question - if he served his punishment (jail sentence) should he keep being punished? What happens if he is later proved innocent?	/r/MensRights	01/10/20 06:33 PM
202	Court rules that women were NOT discriminated against by pension age being increased to 65... to match the mens pension age. The 1995 Act stated that the change in retirement age to 65 was meant to be phased in, finishing in 2020. The conservative government said in 2010 (and enacted in the 2011 Pensions Act) that it will be brought forward to 2018. That's still 7 years to prepare - can hardly describe this as a surprise! I don't like the Tories one bit, but I can hardly blame them in this circumstance. Raising retirement age sucks (and plenty of people would argue against it) but the changes have been communicated. N…	/r/MensRights	15/09/20 02:44 PM
5	This sub shouldn’t be ‘Us vs Them’ I agree with OPs point - both sides are often guilty of competitive victimisation. I think the key difference is MRAs are much more likely to actually defend our views with stats and evidence, but a lot of feminists will scream 'misogyny!' if we even slightly question them. It's a poor defence, but unfortunately one that resonates well with most people. I've never seen anyone here downplay womens issues e.g. rape, suffrage, rights to abortion - I think we can all agree that women deserve equalit…	/r/MensRights	07/08/20 10:54 AM
1	I’m a woman, I’m a feminist, and I support men’s rights. Patriarchy affects men too. I think you've got an excellent view of the situation! I believe feminism and men's rights both have very valid issues that need to be addressed, but they also both have faults. The issue with criticising feminism is that you'd often be perceived as a mysoginist, but criticising MRA is much more normalised and socially acceptable. There's a small vocal part of feminism that use the movement as a guise for misandry, and its easy to point at those people and say 'they represent feminism, therefore…	/r/MensRights	29/07/20 12:04 PM
3	Again, with this nonsense argument. Feminist policies have worked against male rape victims and abuse (look up the Duluth model) when MRAs bring up these topics, feminists protest them. Feminists only talk about nonsensical things such as the wage gap MYTH Agree with you here, man. I'm a fan of feminism as a movement, its achieved some great things over the years to further gender equality. Like any political or social movement, it's not without its flaws though. What they claim men are concerned about is untrue - I'd say we (as men) care more about the mens mental health crisis, paternity fraud, court bias/longer criminal sentences etc. Misrepresenting and dismissing our arguments is only gonna make us hate feminism - and they wonder why we've cr…	/r/MensRights	24/07/20 12:09 PM