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Interesting. I have the exact opposite experience. Not to mention there is a difference between what gets you laid and what moves you towards being well adjusted human being with healthy self esteem.
/r/seduction20/05/25 12:05 PM
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Why do you think so?
/r/seduction19/05/25 06:28 PM
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It would be ideal, but it is also quite time consuming. Like I do go out to approach for about 2 hours almost each day after my work. Then I have to go on all the dates I get from it (which is like 3-4 a week). I barely have time to manage my existing social circle which is mostly guys. Building something new is simply not possible.
/r/seduction09/05/25 09:04 AM
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Sure, but really attractive girls are quite rare. You might get to couple of them through social circle, but how many of them are going to be single and how many are going to want to date you? I agree it is easier within social circle, but the number of the girls I am really attracted to is just way lower. Unless you are like DJ or something. I can approach as many attractive girls in a day as I get to meet through social circle within a year.
/r/seduction09/05/25 08:55 AM
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Sure, these are all anecdotal experiences. I was trying to say that people who depend on looks for confidence are not really confident. Take most of the attractive woman you meet through game.
/r/seduction07/05/25 07:27 AM
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Exactly. People on this sub keep repeating the same stuff with looks, muscles, work etc. In my experience, what average guy is missing is charisma, humor, social skills, confidence etc. Good 90 percent guys I met who struggle with woman are good enough externally. They just do not go out and they can not talk to people for shit.
/r/seduction06/05/25 12:45 PM
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I have never met a person who derived their confidence from looks or wealth who was actually confident. Once I got to know them better I could easily see through the facade they built up for the world.
/r/seduction05/05/25 07:54 AM
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Get to therapy, start working on yourself and on your purpose in life. Working on your self esteem does wonders too.
/r/seduction11/04/25 11:50 AM
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I responded in the other comment :) From a certain angle I agree. But I think allowing yourself to act needy is a amazing step towards working on your needyness. As you said, there will alway be someone you like and get little needy with. No matter how good you get at this thing. For me personally I think the better approach to life and to increasing its quality is to learn how to be needy. Essentially I let of of the desire to satisfy my needs and embrace myself in the moment. That can mean I c…
/r/seduction04/04/25 11:32 AM
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In a way I agree with you. I would say your advice is great for someone who wants to go from beginner to advanced. My approach is probably more suited for someone who has some experiences already. There is manipulation and manipulation. The conscious manipulation would be for example lying to someone to appear more interesting, or to give an idea of you looking for same things. But then there is more subtle, unconscious manipulation. That happens essentially any time you control your actions, th…
/r/seduction04/04/25 11:27 AM
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Not as experience but I concur to this. Dont know why it is downvoted. I've dated woman who had way less money than I do and even they didnt want me to "provide" for them.
/r/seduction03/04/25 01:30 PM
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Text her if you want to text her. Stop thinking about how you appear. The guys who truly are not needy do not think about if they appear needy. They do not control their behaviour to manipulate others.
/r/seduction03/04/25 01:26 PM
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But I dont want to change the outcome. I am usually not invested in girls so early on. You saying I do it for ego but your approach seems more egoic to me (why do something if I do not get something out of it). You are projecting here, brother.
/r/seduction01/04/25 09:55 PM
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But it literally takes 5 seconds. I would say this is alright advice for beginners (though I have my issues with it), but more advanced guys do not operate like this. The reason I want to answer is because i have some values and not everything is about me. One of the values is that I consider myself to be a decent person and thus I respond once someone wants to break things off with me. I consider that a polite thing to do.
/r/seduction01/04/25 07:47 PM
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But the core principles are the same in both settings.
/r/seduction01/04/25 06:46 PM
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I don't understand the point of this. Why not just respond something like: "okay, no problem, good luck :) "? Like it's not that complicated
/r/seduction01/04/25 06:39 PM
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Yeah, that is fair. It is not neccessary, but helps for sure.
/r/seduction01/04/25 06:19 PM
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Almost every guy says that about the place they are living in.
/r/seduction01/04/25 02:21 PM
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I kind of like and dislike this advice at the same time. Sure, finding your passions or say life purpose is great for both your general life satisfaction and for being more attractive to woman in general. But for it to really work like this is has to be very social activity which not everyone might like. It's always guys preaching this who happen to be dating coaches or bachata dancers or dj's. Yeah, duh if you spend your time doing this you will get results. But what if I like software engineer…
/r/seduction01/04/25 02:13 PM
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Can you share these infields? I used to watch only infields from RSD and it has been years since I saw them and they would rarely show full pulls (which makes sense).
/r/seduction28/02/25 05:17 PM
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Hard disagree. I have pulled plenty of woman who were neutral or even not interested after my opener. I am honestly surprised this is actually upvoted so much. Any guy who is at least mid-level good in pickup will know this.
/r/seduction28/02/25 10:48 AM
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If they would be genuinely nice (whatever that means), they would not struggle with woman. Why the typical "nice guy" struggles is because his niceness is inauthentic, its a mask. He does not have the confidence and courage to be himself and thus relies on this "niceness" as his only trait. The reason I was saying most of the nice guys are not actually nice is because I had plenty of female friends as well as dated a lot of woman in my life. Most of the nice guy were not really nice anymore afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:32 AM
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A lot of men on here would grow a lot just by befriending some attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:28 AM
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Idk about dating apps, I do not really date on those. I still doubt it anyway. I am not saying nice people are never nice. I am saying "nice guys" are not which is not the same. I would say the same about nice girls, but not of all the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:59 AM
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i have met plenty of nice guys, usually the ones who were trying for girls I was dating at the time and trust me, most of them were not nice at all. Especially after getting rejected. I do not see the correlation of gold digging? You do realize most woman don't really give a shit about money right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:13 AM
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Sure, but that does not mean every guy who gets woman or is as you say "badboy" treats them poorly. Nice guys don't missbehave because they do not get the opportunity to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:51 AM
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Disagree. Dating around can be fun and learning when you are starting on. But if you need to be dating a lot of people to feel abundant, you have some deeper self-esteem issues that you should be working on.
/r/seduction26/01/25 11:12 PM
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This does not have to be true at all. Sure, it can happen that this is the dynamic. But there are plenty of girls who have this approach to dating and that does not mean they are not attracted. It's not my thing personally, just saying.
/r/seduction18/01/25 07:20 PM
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Woman do not decide like that. This "indirect game" is just about opener which does not matter. You can open girl with asking her for direction but the way you continue conversation, the way you look at her, the way you use your voice will convey for you what is up.
/r/seduction16/01/25 12:14 PM
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The average man does not really have all that great dating option.
/r/seduction15/01/25 01:43 PM
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Social skills are one of the most important skill set as far as building your career goes. Not to mention that earning potential itself does not really translate into getting woman so I am not sure what you are getting at.
/r/seduction15/01/25 01:40 PM
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Am I the only person who just never experienced this to be true? I am part of my local pickup community and I met plenty of jacked and plenty of out of shape guys and it seems like there is basically no relationship between muscles and how good you do with woman. Even before doing pickup, it didn't really seem like the jacked guys did all that well. The most successfull guys were the ones that were very charismatic, confident, outgoing and funny. Looks mattered very little from my experience.
/r/seduction15/01/25 12:26 PM
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Trust me, if you work on this under right principles, your interactions with people will be the most genuine and honest they have ever been.
/r/seduction13/01/25 03:05 PM
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And one of the most straight forward ways to grow into mature, confident man is learning how to socialize and approach woman.
/r/seduction13/01/25 03:01 PM
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I guess so but to be honest I have met so many dudes that have been running around with one prepared opener approaching people and haven't progressed anywhere with it.
/r/seduction13/01/25 09:22 AM
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It's cold here too. And I don't see it as an issue. I am approaching on the streets and say every 30 minutes switch to approaching in shops to warm up. For nightgame there is no difference at all.
/r/seduction07/01/25 09:17 PM
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I wouldn't say they are useless. I've met up with girls after taking their number/IG in the club. But I wouldn't aim for them, that should be last resort.
/r/seduction07/01/25 05:56 PM
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Right, this would make an impression on some 18-20 year old. Any experienced guy who've had his share of fun with girls and is somewhat mature would be weirded out by this. And this "it's different for you and different for me" argument can be used to justify anything and just kills any discussion.
/r/seduction01/01/25 11:55 AM
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Countries are objects, women are not. Not to mention I would question the counting countries too, since it seems like what is important to a person is just visiting another country (adding to your sense of self) instead of savouring the life experience it is. I am not attacking you, jsut trying to strike up a discussion and state how I see it.
/r/seduction31/12/24 08:31 PM
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Sure, meeting people and having casual encounters is fun. But counting how many woman you've slept with on such a scale and at such an age is just bit iffy tbh.
/r/seduction31/12/24 08:10 PM
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Just because some woman do it does not mean it's the right thing to do.
/r/seduction31/12/24 02:13 PM
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How old are you?
/r/seduction20/12/24 09:50 AM
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That seems more like a sticking point than limiting belief though.
/r/seduction20/12/24 09:49 AM
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The thing is that aesthetically attractive people are still insecure and still worry about this. It is not rational.
/r/seduction20/12/24 09:30 AM
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It is not the same process. A mature person does not have to bring someone down (even if in perception) to not put them on pedestal.
/r/seduction20/12/24 08:58 AM
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Right. I feel like too focus on flaws is a rather beginner oriented advice. As you get experience and mature you start seeing "humanity" in all people in general and stop glorifying everything. I don't think people should hyper focus on the flaws and try to fight the one-itis, rather explore why they became so need or clingy in the first place.
/r/seduction19/12/24 11:17 AM
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I agree. There is a huge nuance. Pickup being childish and a majority of pickup community being childish is not the same thing.
/r/seduction22/11/24 02:35 PM
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Agree for the most part, however to offer value and offer good emotions. You do not have to have good responses. It's much more about how you feel inside yourself. Once you reach the point where you just do not feel any stress or pressure anymore (or at least to do no react to it) you can go with blank answers such as "I am a doctor" and it will hit people differently.
/r/seduction19/11/24 01:56 PM
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Bettering your social skills is not equal to kids fighting over toys. I have mine issues with pickup and it's community as well, it's far from perfect. But If I am not able to articulate them and reason why I hold them I stay away from blank statements such as "doing pickup is immature".
/r/seduction19/11/24 01:04 PM
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So you are saying that it is immature or not okay because society views it as such? And that is supposed to be mature viewpoint?
/r/seduction19/11/24 12:37 PM
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Why would pickup be childish according to you?
/r/seduction19/11/24 12:06 PM
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Even when you get negative reaction, nothing bad happens in the end basically all the time.
/r/seduction19/11/24 12:03 PM
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He didn't say that he outgrew the city. Just that he sometimes meets the same girls?
/r/seduction18/11/24 12:21 PM
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Well, I definitely do not fuck anyone. I've also go for attractive girls obivously. Once you fuck enough of them, it looses appeal too.
/r/seduction16/09/24 08:53 PM
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People at different levels experience different problems. Let's not shame them for that.
/r/seduction16/09/24 08:13 PM
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I get you but I also don't feel like getting a gf just for "some time". Feels kinda whack to the girl.
/r/seduction16/09/24 08:09 PM
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I am int he same boat as OP and I don't really expect sex to be fulfilling. It's just that the fun and novelty starts loosing its appeal.
/r/seduction16/09/24 08:06 PM
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I feel like this advice is relevant for either guys who are really new to game or who are slowing down and looking for relationships. Once you are in an intermediate place where you go to 3-4 dates a week anything besides quick drinks, walk or icecream is just not sustainable.
/r/seduction13/09/24 03:29 PM
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Very elaborate, thanks for that.
/r/seduction27/08/24 02:20 PM
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Yeah, I understand that, but why would I not want woman who I percieve as above me. It feels that through my journey I am getting better, but now the girls I used to want I don't really care for and have a new level of ceiling. I am wondering if this will go on forever.
/r/seduction27/08/24 02:07 PM
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I understand this thinking but if this was case, why would I even want to date her then?
/r/seduction27/08/24 01:58 PM
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Not true. You can totally do well with woman without some insane genetics.
/r/seduction27/08/24 01:57 PM
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Hard disagree. It works out for me just fine. Plus the big advantage of cold approaching is not just meeting woman but bettering your social skills in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:16 PM
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Exactly. I am in a same boat. Been single for a year. In my experience, the casual sex can be hot but mostly is awkward and not as enjoyable as relationship sex. But it's still better than not getting laid at all. I prefer to meet a girl that I like enough so I can keep seeing her for longer but I didn't meet her yet. I feel like people like OP (if they are in west) use this type of thinking to rationalize not being able to get laid while single honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:51 AM
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That's a bit simplistic to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:40 AM
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Well you do not have to correlate desire to have sex with desire to having kids at all as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:27 PM
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It absolutely is cultural primarily. However generally speaking the poorer south european countries have lower birth rates than richer sweden, so it might have impact too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:36 PM
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I mean, I dunno where these people live that they don't see the pressure. They might be super young or something but as a guy in his mid-late 20's, I see this pressure to have kids or at least be partnered up every where. And I live in a fairly liberal european country lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:15 PM
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I am not really an expert in the field so it's hard to guess. But pretty much entire world with the exception of some Asian nations like Japan and South Korea is doing better than Europe in this regard. And that's even with all the social benefits euros get. In my country, woman get a 2 year maternal leave when they have a baby. There can be made an case for economy (I would argue tho that it is more connected with the level of comfort that you grew up with, then making babies lower your living …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:11 PM
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It absolutly was and still to certain degree is? I am a guy and even I get the "when will you have babies" from my grandparents, that still is an implicit pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:55 PM
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I mean, do you have any official stats? It's a bit unreliable to rely on tweets :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:50 PM
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So it did in my european country. ​ And actually I just googled the stats for 2020-2023 for Argentina and while there is a drop, it's not really a big one - a statistical error even you might say. I am not sure if I am looking at the correct data.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:42 PM
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Argentina is higher than basically entire Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:36 PM
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The idea that having more money will make people having more babies in western world is not what correlates with the data. Generally speaking the more educated and wealthier you became, the less babies you have on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:33 PM
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People really need to get some real life experience on this sub. Do some woman initiate breakups? Sure. Do most of them do that? Maybe. Does it happen that man sort of forces a woman to breakup? Absolutely and its fucking common. I see it in myself and in a lot of my guy friends. I feel like men are just more comfortable to let the relationships rot away. Seen so many guys get broken up with just because they stopped caring about their girls or often times even started cheating and not hiding it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:14 PM
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Not true. Imagine you are working for company but your performance goes down. Your manager tries to work things out, multiple times, asks you what can be done to improve it. But you are just not engaged. You don't care. Eventually you even stop coming to the work. The company fires you after that. Is the company the one who 'gave up trying'?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:21 AM
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Not always, but true to certain degree, yes. That's how my last relationship ended actually. The girl was absolutly in love with me and wanted to settle down with me. But I was not ready. I was also coward and probably bit scared of being single again so I did not end the relationship and prolonged it way too long. She suffered quite a bit by my indecisiveness to a point where she had to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:01 PM
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To be quite honest here, like a month ago, I met up with my ex for a drink. She did know about it and allow it. In a way she can say that by me meeting with my ex, she can meet him too. Would that be too much for you even then?
/r/seduction20/03/22 12:02 AM
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