davideliasirwin Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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5	CMV: In a ways, i kinda understand why women are the way they are. Giving women all sexual power at an early age is akin to giving a child a billion dollars. I was simply stating that men do face social consequences, and refuting that women automatically beccome social pariahs. I did not intend to make a direct comparison between Kardashian and Wiener.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/15 12:57 AM
8	CMV: In a ways, i kinda understand why women are the way they are. Giving women all sexual power at an early age is akin to giving a child a billion dollars. Women have reputations that can be torn apart over things that would never hurt a man. Brett Favre is not considered a pariah because he sent some dick pics. However if a woman in the same position (age, success, marital status) send a picture of herself spread-eagle she would be PILLORIED. Anthony's Weiner's career was ruined as a result of sexting while Kim Kardashian was made famous because of her sex tape.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/15 11:39 PM
1	My critique of Red Pill Men and Red Pill Women A person doesn't choose to have ambition. They either have it, or they don't. Lifting weights increases testosterone in men. Changes in testosterone change men's personalities. When a man's testosterone levels increase so does his ambition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/15 06:04 PM
3	A Short(ish) Summary of RP Dread Game in Relationships injecting more fun and humour around your house, flirting with your wife, trying to get things running again sexually... That is literally part of step 2.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/15 07:21 PM
1	Looking for an old post, tried google but I can't seem to find it Is this it? https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2me5k6/48_days_of_power_day_1_never_outshine_the_master/ LPT: When using google, you can limit the results to a certain website. EX. Entering "48 laws of power site:reddit.com" into google search textbox will only return links from reddit. "48 laws of power -site:reddit.com" Use a negative sign in front of the site keyword if you want results from all websites except reddit.	/r/askTRP	14/09/15 05:35 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term What have I been saying this whole time and how have I changed it? Please use quoted sources as you have proven yourself unreliable when paraphrasing. By my accounts I have said exactly this. "The term AWALT has a meaning to TRP. It is a data model that they use to describe how their interactions with women will work, in its basest form: all woman are people and all people are capable of both good and bad behaviors. This needs to be specifically spelled out to some because they are affected by t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/15 01:01 AM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I'm not defending TRP, I am defending the scientific method. I say wait until the experiment is done and we have seen the results before calling it a failure. Is that how experiment work?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/15 12:11 AM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term They claim it works. The rest of the world claims it doesn't work. Who do you think is right? Unless the rest of the world has tried the exact same model that the red pill has created( down to the very letter) and found it to be ineffective, then their claims are irrelevant to the testing of this data model. TRP are testing this new model, who has tested this exact one before? I don't know how effective it is. It is a new model that they have created and began testing. I will not make assumption…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 11:18 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term It is tested I believe you are saying that TRP has finished testing this model. Is that correct? Do they find that it works or doesn't work?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 05:25 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term You keep saying "if they think it works why try and stop them" My argument has been how can you say it doesn't work if it hasn't been tested? You have incorrectly paraphrased me. Again, you are attempting to divert my argument. Will you please try and respond to the argument I posted in the comments two comments ago? Would you like me to post it again so it will be easier for you to paraphrase it correctly this time?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 03:11 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Please point me to where I said "My argument is Why don't you let idiots act like idiots" I have not attempted to make up your argument, I have stated what I understand your argument to be so that you would clarify and I would have a better understanding. Are even going to make the slightest attempt to respond to any of my argument about AWALT in the previous comment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 01:01 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term What is there to attack? You're argument is "why don't you let idiots act like idiots?" When you call me dishonest that is an attack. Accusing me of making things up is attacking me. Calling my ideas idiotic and stupid is an attack. My argument is: How do you know they are acting like idiots? This model is brand new and has not been tested. I am not forcing them to do anything; they voluntarily come to this subreddit to debate. If they want to make a positive statement that TRP works, then they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 11:41 AM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term So again you attacked me instead of attacking my argument. The topic was that AWALT has no meaning. I asserted that it has meaning to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 02:01 AM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Honestly, just admit you're a trper. No one who is neutral would spend this much time defending nonsense. It is not nonsense to them. That is what I am interested in. Understanding the way people think and why they think the way they do. Do you think that they are intentional being self-defeating using models that are so obviously wrong that it they are guaranteed to fail. Why would they set themselves up for failure? They claim to want to maximize their success with women. If this model was obj…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 01:46 AM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Because there is no psychological study on human sex drives that insist you ignore the way emotions work. So, TRP shouldn't try this model because there have been no studies to either prove or disprove it, and therefore it is objectively false? This brand new model that TRP has just formulated and no one has ever tested is objectively false because you say it is, despite the claims from TRP that it works? Of course TRP says TRP works. Like any cult, they have all the answers. Is there any proof …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/15 12:56 AM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term How can you say it is objectively false? Have there been studies that show it is objectively false or do you just feel like it is objectively false? TRP says it works, you say it doesn't. How does an outsider looking in learn what is right? Believe what you said because you said it? Maybe they could try it out and see if it works?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 11:50 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term You have dismissed both of my previous post and have attempted to change the subject both times. Do you actually want to try and understand their way of thinking? After every post you scoff and dismiss, where is the curiosity?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 11:19 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I am open minded to blue pill, red pill, purple pill and any pills ideas. If I had to say I was anything I would say I am purple pill. Do you actually want to understand their way of thinking or just argue with people. We have been having a long conversation, during that time you have been dismissive of my comments, called me dishonest, laughed at my ideas, and implied that I don't know what it is like to be in a romantic relationship with a woman. How does any of that help you understand their …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 10:39 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term but you can't really argue that they shouldn't use the model(if they believe it is right). I can and do argue that. If my goal is to lose weight, and I use a model of shoving ice cream into my face 24/7, would you argue that I shouldn't use that model despite me thinking it is the right model? Your using a known model for losing weight, they have created a new model that they are testing. Your saying it is incorrect, but have you done studies to disprove it? Of course you would. And you would be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 10:19 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term How is using the transitive property of equality to compare two things incoherent?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 10:01 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Or maybe, this is a crazy idea, but maybe you finally decided to read my argument I've posted over and over again. You previously did not state your understanding clearly enough for me to understand it. I was unable to discern your understanding through your repetitions of the word incoherent. When you used the analogy I started to see what you meant. I have considered that and I reached the conclusion that if their goal is to "maximize their sexual strategy" it would be best to work with accura…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 07:20 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term AWALT means APALT but really it means AWALT. Are all women people? Are all people like that? If all woman are people and all people are like that, then AWALT = APALT. TRP doesn't care about APALT, they only talk about AWALT.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 07:10 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Your analogy makes sense, and I am starting to get a better picture about what you are thinking. (That happens when you explain yourself instead of saying the word incoherent for the 100th time.) In you analogy, I can see why you think it is wrong and stupid. But have you considered that it is helpful to that self-help group? Maybe it isn't the most correct model in the world but if it helps them feel like they have a better understanding, then what is the problem. Eventually the will figure out…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 05:58 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term They don't care about guys behavior, they only care about women's behavior. So instead of saying all people they just say all women. That confuses you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 05:56 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I am not attacking your character Calling me dishonest is not attacking my character? You have not made it clear to me what is incoherent about it. I see you say that you have made it clear, but it is not clear to me. Your analogy makes sense, and I am starting to get a better picture about what you are thinking. (That happens when you explain yourself instead of saying the word incoherent for the 100th time.) In you analogy, I can see why you think it is wrong and stupid. But have you considere…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 05:54 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term AWALT really means APALT You find this incoherent?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 05:50 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I've explained countless times how AWALT really means APALT is incoherent. You don't explain why it is incoherent to you. Just saying the word incoherent doesn't magically make me understand what you don't understand about it. You have just responded to my request to not be attacked by an ad hominem attack with a subsequent ad hominem attack. I'm sorry you can't be honest about my positions. But really, that isn't my fault you aren't honest. It seems that you are not actually interested in under…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 05:40 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term And guess what, AWALT is not a model of how most women behave. I can't speak for the validity of female behavior, I only accept that TRP has created a model that they believe is useful when interacting with women and therefore has meaning. I'm sorry you're point is incoherent nonsense to defend incoherent nonsense. This is probably the 100th time you have mentioned incoherent during our discussion but haven't made clear what is incoherent about it. TRP has created a model(valid or not) that they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 05:19 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I obviously did not mention a woman's sex drive. I only stated that TRP is concerned with creating a model of how most women behave in order to maximize their sexual strategy with them(perhaps by becoming attractive and entering a relationship). Why the ad hominem attack? Do you not want to actually argue my point? Do you understand that TRP wants to better understand women in order to become more succesful with them? Do you understand that TRP thinks that creating a model of how most women beha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 04:59 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term They want to "maximize their sexual strategy" by assigning extreme and uncommon behaviors on women as a default. You believe that AWALT takes the most ridiculous characteristics and applies it to all women, but ask yourself: "How would that help TRP maximize their sexual strategy"? "What they are really concerned with is finding what is common among all women, and using it to their advantage." Women like fit attractive men: AWALT. Women like financially stable men: AWALT. Women like charming con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 04:39 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I have not attacked you or your opinion, so why are you so angry towards me? Several times during our discussion you have scoffed at and made fun of my responses, is that how you have conversations with people? The reason the red pill uses AWALT instead of APALT is because they are concerned with maximizing there sexual strategy with women, not all people. My link shows people that are too naive to believe that their partners are capable of cheating on them. If they believed that all people are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 04:14 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term The link below will show you that many people have trouble understanding that APALT. Clearly some people need help understanding that all people are capable of all types of behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/search?q=cheating&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all It is more about women being the barefoot mother making sure dinner is ready for the family and doing it all with a smile. That the woman is the one who will nurture a child when they scrape their knee while the man will tel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 03:46 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term women are wonderful effect actually means Perhaps the TRP has misunderstood the women are wonderful effect(please note that I have not aligned with any pill I am interested in understanding all positions), what does it mean? From what I read it states that people are less likely to attribute negative traits to women than they are to attribute those to men, and more likely to attribute positive traits to women than they are to men. Which could be interpreted as women are less likely to cheat and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 03:23 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Because you are attaching a warning that a woman is capable of extreme and uncommon behavior while at the same time recognizing that your warning is worthless. Perhaps you believe that no one in the world is affected by the woman are wonderful effect. In that case AWALT is completely useless, redundant and stupid. There would be no point to even mention it. I do not believe it is worthless to the people who are affected by the women are wonderful effect. To those people it is very useful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 03:09 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term If your dating a woman, be aware that she is as capable of any behavior of as any other human being. Do not assume that she is perfect, do not assume that she would never do (X). She is a normal human being, that makes mistakes and is capable of benevolent or malevolent behavior. How is that incoherent? How do you not under stand this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 02:39 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term AWALT mitigates the women are wonderful effect. This effect is proven and affects people. Men need to be reminded that woman are just as capable as men of any behavior. TRP focuses on women behavior because they are attempting to maximize their sexual strategies with them. The way men act is of no concern to AWALT, TRP, or maximizing sexual strategy. We have agreed the term has meaning, but you dislike how every individual has their own additional interpretations and modifications of that and ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 01:08 PM
2	Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT? I think that applying a heuristic to interactions between men and women is bad because each and every woman is completely different from the next in every single possible way. They don't even like being compared to one another in any way because they are clearly completely different down to the sub-atomic level! That's why I'm part of no pill, because my beliefs are better than theirs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 12:55 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I did not invalidate your argument, I asked what is the point you are trying to make? We have already agreed that AWALT has meaning, but you think that it loses its meaning when millions of people interpret it and apply it in their own way. Of course people interpret things differently and usually in a way that will benefit them, that doesn't change the fact that AWALT has a meaning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 12:20 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term At this point you're not even arguing against AWALT, you're arguing against human psychology. Humans have always and will probably always interepert things in a way that will benefit them. You could use your argument against many things: the way it gets defined, defended, and applied is incoherent and meaningless. :the way religion gets defined, defended, and applied is incoherent and meaningless. :the way politics gets defined, defended and applied is incoherent and meaningless. Sure, you could…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/15 11:52 AM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term So you understand the reason AWALT exist and the purpose it serves(to mitigate the woman is wonderful effect), but you don't like how misogynistic it comes off as? Correct?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 07:44 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term You keep on hiding behind the terms incoherent and meaningless instead of arguing your position. Everything is meaningless if you refuse to look for or accept its meaning. You seem to have trouble understanding that scientist have conducted studies and found that people actually believe that women are less likely to behave badly then men. I realize your going to respond with multiple uses of "Incoherent and meaningless" but be a sport and actually try and debate that AWALT attempts to remind us …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 07:32 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I have tried to simplify AWALT to better understand your views on it. AWALT is more than "all people are capable of being bad" and so the broader definition "all women are capable of any behavior" could be a useful tool when dating. You have mentioned more than once that AWALT will harm you and your ability to make interpersonal connections. How? I have been with my girlfriend for 9 years. I don't think she would cheat on me, but I know that all people are capable of cheating so if I began to se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 07:17 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term At this point I think that you are comment karma farming. At least three times in our discussion I have directly asked you a question and you completely ignored it. Do you actually want to debate or not? Please explain to me how my argument was nonsensical. All people are capable of doing good or bad, even women. Why do you have a problem with that statement?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 06:57 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Do you agree that all people are capable of doing both good and bad things? Do you believe that all men are capable of doing both good and bad things? Do you believe that all women are capable of doing good and bad things? Do you trust the studies that I linked in the "Women are wonderful effect"? if you say yes to all of these questions then you have no argument against AWALT. edit: a word	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 06:40 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Your link doesn't say "better than" but it does say "more positive attributes" How do you define better? More positive attributes sound better to me. You seem to have issue with the W in AWALT. I think you may be caught up with the "women" aspect of the term. You, Hamuel, could literally replace AWALT with APALT(all people are like that) and it would mean the same thing. Every person has the potential to do good or bad things. The main reason TRP uses AWALT instead of APALT is because everyone k…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 06:33 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term What kind of person thinks all women are great and loving? Scientist have shown that people believe that women are better than men and less likely to do bad things than men. AWALT forces us to consider that women are just as capable of bad behavior as men. Please read into the Women are wonderful effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CWomen_are_wonderful%E2%80%9D_effect	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 06:19 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term It does protect people. It protects them from fooling themselves into seeing women as being better than they are. It protects them from failed expectations. It protects them from being blindsided by normal human behavior that we see in men all the time, that they did not expect to see in a woman. AWALT is an attempt to mitigate the Women are wonderful effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CWomen_are_wonderful%E2%80%9D_effect Every interpersonal relationship is different, as such the requ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 06:04 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Do you think that it does not do a good job of defending, or that it is not necessary, or is there another reason as to why you find it meaningless?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 05:50 PM
3	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I usually don't form romantic relationships with strangers. I think the term for people that do is called either a creep or a stalker. That is an excellent way to protect yourself. But you didn't answer my question. Do you understand that AWALT is a defense mechanism? Do you think people should take necessary steps to protect themselves?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 05:45 PM
5	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term I find AWALT is a mindset to not let your guard down. It is better internal applied to ones self than externally applied to women. Should you explicitly trust every person you meet? Should you follow strangers in to dark alleys? Let strangers crash at your apartment? Let strangers borrow your car? Does trust not need to be earned? This safety mechanism, AWALT, protects people. I do not understand your problem with it? Do you think people should not take steps to protect themselves? edit: a word	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 05:39 PM
4	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Do you think that it is a good idea to go through life completely naive? Do you think that it is a bad idea to be pragmatic?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 05:28 PM
1	CMV: AWALT is a meaningless term Yes, be ready for that. Be ready for every possible outcome. Don't allow yourself to become blindsided. Handle yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/15 04:26 PM
3	Ex wants to get back together - Nothing but rampant sex? you've been plated.	/r/askTRP	27/08/15 03:31 PM
7	Withholding sex test- Failed? I guess you could leave again for another period of radio silence.	/r/askTRP	27/08/15 03:25 PM
1	From a blue piller, here's some things that bother me about the blue pill and the way it has discussions here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument: Person 1 asserts proposition X. Person 2 argues against a false but superficially similar proposition Y, as if an argument against Y were an argument against X. Person 1(OP) asserts proposition X(The blue pill, as a whole, does not interpret the red pill how they want to be interpreted.) Person 2(Valid_concept) argues against a false but superficially similar proposition Y("Name one thing t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/15 05:12 PM
2	From a blue piller, here's some things that bother me about the blue pill and the way it has discussions here. Even if what you're saying is true (it isn't), that still isn't a strawman. Name one thing that I've strawmanned. Maybe your debate team can help you. The beauty of this comment is that it is a straw man in itself. The OP is arguing against your statement: Blue pill does not interpret red pill how they want to be interpreted. So? - The blue pill, as a whole, does not interpret the red pill how they want to be interpreted. and you are straw-manning - changing the argument - to :"Name one thing th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/15 01:56 PM
9	Wall women do the craziest things. I don't agree that when the victim is male that there was no harm done. Take a look at this story: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statutory-rape-victim-child-support/14953965/	/r/TheRedPill	22/04/15 01:55 PM