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| 1 | Is TRP worth debating? For people who are opposed to TRP, does engaging with TRP validate their position?Good point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Is there a "penile-tingle" just as there are gina-tingles?Haha I see your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 12:26 PM |
| 3 | Is there a "penile-tingle" just as there are gina-tingles?As a comedic euphemism for what turns a person on sexually? I've always assumed that's what was meant by "gina tingles." I think TRP had a thread where they joked about holding her degree in close proximity to a man's dick to see if it aroused anything. That's pretty equivalent euphemism in my book. The rest of this is a dead horse. TRP has, in my recollection, always been pretty clear that they value looks first and foremost, with chastity as a close second for LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 10:54 AM |
| 3 | Is TRP worth debating? For people who are opposed to TRP, does engaging with TRP validate their position?"...giant strawman straw-woman" because he clearly feels some type of way 'bout the whole gender | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 10:48 AM |
| 2 | Is TRP worth debating? For people who are opposed to TRP, does engaging with TRP validate their position?It works! Only because we've witnessed TRPers dismissing all the times it didn't work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 10:45 AM |
| 11 | Is TRP worth debating? For people who are opposed to TRP, does engaging with TRP validate their position?Ok, just wanted to ask about some specific examples. So there are hate-filled/almost-hate-filled nuggets in there. And you're more understanding, ok. Why not start your own subreddit dedicate towards traditional marriage or traditional gender roles? One that doesn't tolerate the shittier sentiments of TRP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 03:17 AM |
| 6 | Is TRP worth debating? For people who are opposed to TRP, does engaging with TRP validate their position?You're right, that hasn't happened to my knowledge. Although, if I were part of a sub in which a moderator actually posted such things, I would feel compelled to unsubscribe or ask for that moderator to be removed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 02:55 AM |
| 6 | Is TRP worth debating? For people who are opposed to TRP, does engaging with TRP validate their position?You should re-read some of those posts bashing career women, feminists, women who support gay rights... Apparently the only good woman is an RP woman. It's not a strong position if you have to tear down any group of women who don't believe in the same traditional marriage that you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 02:34 AM |
| 6 | Is TRP worth debating? For people who are opposed to TRP, does engaging with TRP validate their position?In excerpt number 44, they compare women (specifically including the women of RPW) to children. You don't strongly disagree with that? I mean, it had over a hundred upvotes. Several of those excerpts mention that women have add no value to a man's life beyond a sexual outlet. As a reasonable woman, how can you reconcile those statements with the RP men you agree with? You even admit in your TL;DR that there are RP men spouting hate. How can you subscribe to a philosophy that upvotes these statem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/14 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Is There Anything Good About Nice Guys™?I think almost every guy thinks, deep down, that they are a Nice GuyTM . Who knows, maybe their mommies tell them they are and they believe it. It really depends on that sense of entitlement. I don't care how good a person you think you are, just don't do me any favors or even talk to me if you're going to whine about how I'm not interested in you. Bad boys are usually too damaged to really care about you, but women will constantly be trying to save these guys. The real catches aren't the ones w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/14 09:41 PM |
| 4 | What does the blue pill think the wall is and why do they believe it doesn't exist?Oh I totally agree you can't change what you're attracted to, so the whole FA movement is doomed (hopefully). My point is that if positive attention for both genders is based on something other than looks, people are forced to cultivate other characteristics. So if men and women are forced post-wall to develop other characteristics, why can't we move that up sooner and make the expectation earlier? I think the wall is based on societal expectations, where men spend so much time contemplating whi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/14 06:43 PM |
| 6 | What does the blue pill think the wall is and why do they believe it doesn't exist?But if you set the age really low, or set the standard at no one gets by on looks alone, don't you eliminate the whole problem? If every person has to develop social skills and interests, aren't we creating relationships based on compatibility instead of erections? I've noticed both young (ages 19-23) guys and gals start freaking out about marriage and children. The only common denominator I can see is that the people who worry about marriage and fertility at a young age tend to be poor and less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/14 06:15 PM |
| 4 | What does the blue pill think the wall is and why do they believe it doesn't exist?Because 30 is waaaaay more scientific | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/14 06:03 PM |
| 5 | What does the blue pill think the wall is and why do they believe it doesn't exist?Awesome. So all genders can't get by on looks past the age of 8, which is when I decree all children stop being cute. That means you can't pick 'em based on looks. You might actually have to value their personalities. If a woman's main SMV criterion is her looks, she's gonna put the most effort into them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/14 05:56 PM |
| -1 | What is the incentive for men to change their traditional view of women, sex and romance?If we did away with traditional marriage roles, there'd be even less of a reason for alimony, because she can't resort to "but my job was a housewife!" as an excuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/14 04:23 AM |
| 3 | What does the blue pill think the wall is and why do they believe it doesn't exist?I'm not sure I believe it exists, because my buddies and I played the game "Jennifer Aniston as she is now, or Jennifer Lawrence as she is now." We were pretty evenly split, except for my female friend who's an idiot and would burst into tears if anyone dare suggest JLaw wasn't the more gorgeous female ever (*gags *) Instead of making the wall a specific age, can it just be the point in your life where you realize people won't put up with your shit just because of looks? We could tear that shit … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/14 04:21 AM |
| -2 | So if not PUA, then what should a man do to better his chances with women?Except RPW welcomes RP male posters' advice all the time. It's to help maintain their "I'm a good woman who defers to men" frame. You could always ask a bisexual woman. Or just ask a woman with enough honesty and metacognition that she can reflect on common themes amongst the men she has positively reacted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/14 12:59 AM |
| 1 | For the self-described alphas: if being alpha/beta is supposedly biological, why are you teaching biologically designated betas how to act alpha?Those traits are pretty specific. What I consider great hair and what another woman of similar age/background considers great hair can be two vastly different things. My point is that if being alpha is looking like a Ken doll/GI Joe doll and having certain vague traits/behaviors will vary widely based on a woman's preference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/14 05:17 PM |
| 0 | For the self-described alphas: if being alpha/beta is supposedly biological, why are you teaching biologically designated betas how to act alpha?You already answered it for yourself. You say it's not a bad sexual strategy for women for the same reasons. I'm saying if RP is true, I would want to decrease the number of attractive women available for LTRs. So I'd want to sabotage other women. Instead, lots of subreddits are available for women helping each other with a wide range of topics (from personality to fitness to makeup to domain specific knowledge). I would suggest this indicates a fervent desire by the women who "get it" to help t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/14 05:10 PM |
| 1 | For the self-described alphas: if being alpha/beta is supposedly biological, why are you teaching biologically designated betas how to act alpha?If TRP were true, it'd really be a competition. That's why it would make sense for older women to sabotage younger women with terrible advice, but it still doesn't make sense for an alpha to teach betas his ways and reduce his hold over the attractive women. Why would any man create more competition for himself, if it were all just evopsych? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/14 04:38 PM |
| 2 | For the self-described alphas: if being alpha/beta is supposedly biological, why are you teaching biologically designated betas how to act alpha?This makes it sound like alpha = sociopath, beta = normal person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/14 04:31 PM |
| 2 | So let's consider TRP's ideal gender roles for a sec. Where's a woman to go?This is the most logical (which is what I assume actually happens in RP marriages), but it seems at odds with the push to settle in a LTR with a woman who's at her sexual prime (late teens/early 20s) who hasn't wasted herself on an education she won't use. Are the unicorns the ones who haven't really been in the corrupting real world? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/14 12:50 AM |
| 5 | If men and women don't have vastly different processes of attraction, how come women prefer white guys but not vice versa?Basically, women prefer white men Well I'm just gonna stop reading here. I'm clearly an outlier anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/14 12:44 AM |
| 3 | Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it?Spatial Reasoning and Sex Differences Spatial reasoning is an extremely important factor to developing mathematical reasoning ability. Learning math beyond basic arithmetic involves being able to work with a number line, proportions, relative comparisons. Poor spatial ability translates into being less able to fully comprehend elementary math concepts. Maybe the average electrician has no need for the math from an undergraduate level electronics class, but an electrical engineer would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/14 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it?Which STEM fields is the gap nonexistent in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/14 07:07 AM |
| 2 | Academic paper suggests that getting laid really IS that hard.In the deep South yeah a little bit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/14 03:01 AM |
| 9 | Academic paper suggests that getting laid really IS that hard.As a bi curious woman, I've tried to pick up women in a bar that wasn't a "gay bar." I will always admit that that is really tough! Then again, I personally have always said, use TRP techniques if you like. They'll work. Just don't complain about the women they work on, because that's like going fishing and complaining you caught a guppy rather than a lobster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/14 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Good behavior is not rewardedNice guys are not nice, they are delusional. They think if they push the button for being a good human being often enough, sex will pop out. If it's such a chore to be a good person, then don't be. I probably won't notice anyway. What's really irritating to me, and I'm not saying TRP is wrong on this subject, is that nice guys put a woman up on a pedestal. They've decided before the end of the first date (and often before the start of it!) that you're "the one" and no matter how horrible I act, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/14 06:12 AM |
| 1 | So BP, what do you think of the partner count issue?Both the gamer example and the RP LTR still sound hypocritical to me. They both categorically disqualify people from a LTR based on behaviors that they themselves indulge in. These hypothetical people don't bother to look at each person individually (I get it, who has time for that), but instead rule out entire portions of the population based on standards they don't adhere to either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/14 04:29 PM |
| 3 | Question for redpillers, how do you explain the fact that so many younger girls aren't attracted to older men?I don't understand sarcasm IRL, I'm not sure why I thought I could pull it off here lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/14 05:00 AM |
| 3 | OneitisYou forgot to add the insult! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/14 04:54 AM |
| 2 | So... explain to me why my moral code should include protecting other peoples' relationships they don't value?Hey, I was stating a more pragmatic reason not to steal someone else's SO. If the moral principle works, it works. I personally don't owe anything to someone I'm not in a relationship with. If I were to be complicit in someone's infidelity, the real problem is the cheater. I didn't break the person's trust, because I never promised them anything. I agree it would make me a shitty person, but not responsible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/14 04:51 AM |
| 4 | Question for redpillers, how do you explain the fact that so many younger girls aren't attracted to older men?Mine was sarcasm. I always forget to add the /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/14 04:41 AM |
| 2 | So BP, what do you think of the partner count issue?I agree with you here, it's not likely to be a successful strategy to try attract someone who loves being fit if you hate being fit. People are allowed to have preferences in phenotypes, but partner count generally isn't a phenotype. That's a series of choices, and TBP considers it hypocritical if you rule out entire swaths of the female population based on partner count alone (if your partner count is indeed high as well). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/14 11:40 PM |
| 1 | So BP, what do you think of the partner count issue?There is a lot of hate towards IR couples other than white man/Asian woman. I was in a black man/white woman couple and generally prefer that phenotype. The backlash from some white men is intense and silly. They usually boil it down to penis size, which is accusing me of fetishization (and actually something I don't care about). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/14 11:37 PM |
| 4 | So... explain to me why my moral code should include protecting other peoples' relationships they don't value?No one on TBP seems to agree with me, which is fine, but I personally don't think you're responsible for someone else's relationship. It's not a pragmatic move, generally, but I'm not convinced of the morality of it. For example, the aforementioned view is a bit like saying I shouldn't steal someone else's pizza because I wouldn't want that to be done to me. I think a better argument is that I wouldn't want to steal someone else's pizza because they might like terrible toppings and I'd be unhapp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/14 11:25 PM |
| 5 | Question for redpillers, how do you explain the fact that so many younger girls aren't attracted to older men?Men don't take these generalizations personally. Trp explained that when they explained the difference between AWALT and AMALT Edit to add the sarcasm tag: /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/14 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers do know that promiscuity doesn't effect the appearance of a vulva...right?Yes, I understand that. I'm actually not disputing that. But considering the title of the OP says "promiscuity doesn't [affect] the appearance of a vulva" I was just trying to show it certainly can... if you have an excessive amount of sex in a short time span. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/14 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers do know that promiscuity doesn't effect the appearance of a vulva...right?Very true. Didn't really think about that because it wasn't the focus of the question or the video clip. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/14 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers do know that promiscuity doesn't effect the appearance of a vulva...right?Mostly true. I had the misfortune to watch a clip of some sex contest, in which women had sex with hundreds of men in a single day. I think the "winner" had something like 300 guys that day (week? I'm not sure, it was disgusting). Her shit was fucking bruised! It was flat and much darker than the rest of her skin tone. So, it could affect the appearance, at least if you're crazy enough to have sex with hundreds of people over a short period of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/14 08:11 PM |
| 1 | TIME Magazine: It’s Time to End ‘Rape Culture’ HysteriaLike I said, if I'm by my lonesome, I'll change the station. I'm not triggered by it and don't force the whole world to avoid it though. I don't care that much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/14 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Hypocrisy and irony in TBP. Awareness and honesty regarding your dating and relationship history.So why do you use the coded language? (I realize this has been a theme my posts have been on for a while. I'm genuinely curious) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/14 06:27 AM |
| 2 | Hypocrisy and irony in TBP. Awareness and honesty regarding your dating and relationship history.The defining characteristic of a cult is how they control speech[...] Like redefining language for no reason? (I.e., "soft neg" = teasing, "hard neg" = insult) I'm assuming this is done to help newer members feel included in the community. Like dictating that posts be gender neutral? (I.e., Tits or GTFO) Actually... this one I do see your point although it's tempting to establish your gender as a means of credibility. Unfortunately the line, "Don't ask a fish how to catch fish, ask a fisherman."… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/14 06:24 AM |
| 6 | What explanation does TRP give for gay people and trans gender people?So she was either bisexual or you were a novelty. That doesn't explain how the RP theory could be applied to same gender couples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/14 05:56 AM |
| 1 | What explanation does TRP give for gay people and trans gender people?Those gender roles can't be hardwired, though, because it appears that the gender roles are related to procreation. So either the gender roles are socialized (because they may be practical) and therefore wouldn't have anything to do with gender or procreation. Do these gender roles translate into the generalization of the genders? Are submissive/feminine gay men also solipsistic and overly emotional? Are they more capable of love than a woman would be because they are male, or do they simply use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/14 05:52 AM |
| 2 | What explanation does TRP give for gay people and trans gender people?Well, isn't the philosophy/lifestyle based on some form of evolutionary psychology? That was my understanding. Earlier today there was a post examining women's sexual motivation in the pre-ag, agricultural, and modern eras. If this philosophy was really fleshed out, how would it explain same sex relationship dynamics? It just seems like a huge flaw. And I don't assume all of TRP is homophobic. I'm sure it ranges from subscriber-to-subscriber. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/14 05:45 AM |
| 8 | TIME Magazine: It’s Time to End ‘Rape Culture’ HysteriaThe majority of voices on this are being overly sensitive, in my opinion. That quote shows how far we've gone to placate people whose feelings are injured by even the smallest of perceived slights. I will say, Robin Thicke's song is really creepy. Every time I hear it (and I change the radio whenever I can), all I can picture is the horrific rape scene from Clockwork Orange or Bruce Willis torturing some poor girl tied to a chair (no idea what movie that's from). It'd make great background music… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/14 05:33 AM |
| 1 | RedPill alternativeThat's true. And honestly, a BP man would say the same thing about your advice, most likely. I guess I'd say that RP has some good strategy (a lot of it would work on me) and a lot of very angry young men. Those angry posters and their unpalatable opinions don't really lend credence to the theory as a whole. Personally I think the strategy falls apart when you have to forcibly remind yourself that you don't think much of the logical/mental faculties of the woman you're dating. Maybe it suits you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/14 11:39 PM |
| 1 | RedPill alternativeWould you ask a bisexual woman how to approach a woman? (The fish metaphor may not be that great.) Good point on that last bit. I just wonder how could a BP man satisfactorily prove to you his prowess when you generalize them to be virgins? Can you really believe any BP man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/14 07:50 PM |
| 1 | RedPill alternativeI think I could. Or at least I could point out someone who was just starting out. After a little bit of success, you get enthusiastic about any sort of progress and go too far. There's a big difference between the guy who is so effortlessly popular with women he literally doesn't have time to spend with you and the guy who's so busy chasing women, trying to get them to pay attention, that he puts you on the back burner. Example: I always valued the guys I dated who had women hitting on them (eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/14 07:33 PM |
| 1 | RedPill alternativeAlthough if they are women and not virgins/married to their first, they're sluts you're gonna ignore anyway. So the only advice you're willing to take is RP advice or advice from BP men that can prove they've gotten laid some arbitrarily acceptable number of times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/14 07:19 PM |
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