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| 1 | Isn't it an extreme exaggeration to say that women never respect and never love betas ?Right, but out of necessity we're talking in generalities here. If your theory needs to resort to generalizations, then it indicates a weakness in your theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/15 03:34 PM |
| 0 | Why does the Blue Pill hate (unfortunate) virgin guys so much?Functionally, how are the two different? What does it matter whether I think "all women have the capacity to cheat on me" or "I should take sensible precautions to make sure I'm not cheated on" if the result is the same? Well, you didn't say "All women have the capacity to cheat on me." You said that women with a high partner count is a red flag to you. Those are not equivalent statements. Of course I haven't read every single page of every single study I get information from. I don't need to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/15 01:27 PM |
| 0 | Why does the Blue Pill hate (unfortunate) virgin guys so much?Would you walk through a high crime area alone at night? It's likely you won't get hurt, but there's a chance. Would you go into a skeezy club by yourself and accept a bunch of drinks from sketchy strangers? It's likely you won't get raped, but there's a chance. Plenty of people consider either of these situations dangerous even if there's no clear danger just to protect themselves against that chance. This doesn't address the point I'm making. You're talking about taking reasonable precaution i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/15 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Why does the Blue Pill hate (unfortunate) virgin guys so much?And is it wrong to assume that all black people are going to rob you? That all Arabs are terrorists? That all men are rapists? The problem with defaulting is that it's lazy, and it is incorrect in too many cases. And when you form generalizations about people based on what you think you know about them, you have the opportunity to miss out on a lot of great relationships. The premise is also not necessarily true. A woman with a long list of partners might be more likely to cheat on you. Or you m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/15 11:51 AM |
| 0 | Why does the Blue Pill hate (unfortunate) virgin guys so much?Yeah, I hoped it was clear that I do not agree with the red pill 101 level bullshit. You are supposing that since a woman has memories, and those memories may include something better than what you can provide, that she is automatically going to be poorer relationship material. This may or may not be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/15 12:13 AM |
| 3 | Why does the Blue Pill hate (unfortunate) virgin guys so much?The problem is with the assumption that a hig partner count automatically makes a woman garbage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/15 11:54 PM |
| 3 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?Because they're selling hypocrisy in the name of "truth." When they sell to you that men are logical and women are rational, ignoring the potential in both genders. One moment's self reflection would tell you when you're making an asinine, one-sided statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 07:32 PM |
| 4 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?His argument translated: "Women muddle intellectual discourse because people tend to care more about who's saying something (aka a woman) than the quality of what they're saying". His argument here is pure, distilled bullshit. The women in my field of academia are not governed by their emotions the way GLO is caricaturing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 07:26 PM |
| 1 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?I don't expect it of others, but that doesn't make it a bad way to live your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 07:20 PM |
| 4 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?You don't have the first inclination about what I think. You may that clear every time you speak. That you think women stifle intellectual output is the dead giveaway that you've never spent a day in academia. So do spare me your thoughts on the matter. When I want advice on bodybuilding, maybe I'll ask your thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 07:19 PM |
| 2 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?Kielbasa's ok. Not a great texture. She prefers German sausages with more bite and a less tough casing. We went to this fantastic German restaurant one time and had great Hefeweizen. Awesome sausage platter, and the best streudel I've ever tasted. Never been to a Russian restaurant. That's something I would like to try. A lot of Americans find Russian cuisine a little unsettling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 05:18 PM |
| 3 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?Ah, I stand corrected. You have shown me the way. Seriously, did you think you were making some kind of point here? I mean, other than the oh-so-sly notion that you could know the first thing about dealing with my wife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 04:59 PM |
| 1 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?because it goes after groups that love drama and victimhood But here lies a disconnect, as well. Go to The Red Pill any given day and look at how many victims and dramatists you'll find. The only reason to use incendiary language is to stir drama. Emotional reactions are not limited to the feminists. Everyone is prey to that tendency, and that's my central criticism with TRP. They look at women and make proclamations about how women are without stopping to consider that many of the traits they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 04:56 PM |
| 3 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?Right. GayLubeOil is a paragon of what TRP is supposed to achieve. Man who lifts and bangs women and doesn't get married. My callout is in reference to the absolute LACK of criticism against misogyny, even if it's not GLO posting it. Angry people, red pill contributors, it's all the same. If you tell me that the majority of women are attracted to fit men, we can rap. Sure, I buy that. When you tell me that all women will leave a husband for a Chad Thundercock (or at least will definitely go to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 03:31 PM |
| 4 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?It requires a lot of work to increase your SMV. Most men are unwilling to put in this work. Thus, they try to dissuade men of character from partaking on this journey; if they don't improve themselves and their competition does then their ability to score drops. You really think people disagree with your ideology because they want you to get less attractive? They don't want that and "mockery" is easier than lifting so they join TBP. I disagree with a lot that the red pill has to offer. I partici… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 03:17 PM |
| 3 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?The reaction to TRP by outsiders and BluePills is basically the "Hey, only I make myself bleed my own blood!" meme... Not really. The content on TRP is often offensive. That's fine; it does bring a lot of attention from loud, angry people. My contention with the philosophy is that it gets things wrong that it assumes as self evident. AWALT is a particularly egregious false idol for TRP, one that I could easily dissuade with my personal experience. Bring that experience to the table, and the TRP'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 03:14 PM |
| 3 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?TRP goes against established identity narratives, and the fastest way to get people worked up is to go at their identity. Race, religion, politics, sex, origin, family etc. TRP is highly conservative in its adherence to identity narratives. Railing against sluts, the dissolution of the 'traditional' nuclear family, and 'beta pussy faggots' doesn't really mark one's ideology as particularly novel. TRP strongly supports gender norms that are assumed to be true and bans anybody with a dissenting vi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 03:08 PM |
| 3 | What is your understanding of why people are opposed to TRP?...and TRP very strongly discourages misogyny... I find GLO's comment very interesting after reading the preceding comment from Mattobox. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/15 03:02 PM |
| 1 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseYou really do enjoy talking yourself in circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 09:08 PM |
| 4 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseI have personally not been tolerated by the red pill. I was banned for suggesting AWALT is not a great way to approach all of your interactions with women. And you seem to have missed my question, so let me rephrase it. How does being intolerant of the red pill demonstrate intolerance against anything else? As for MY intolerance of the red pill, it's not because I don't like the ideas. It's because many of the ideas are incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 08:03 PM |
| 10 | No one tolerates TRP because TRP is intolerant to everyone elseCertainly intolerant of RP, I think this likely extends to intolerance elsewhere Intolerant "elsewhere" based on what? An intolerance for vitriolic ideology? TRP doesn't really claim to be this noble pursuit that is just looking to make the lives of everyone better. It's men teaching men how to get women to fuck them. Using every manner of anecdotal, "common sense" evidence to tell people how women are and how women will behave. A lot of people have a pretty intolerant attitude to that idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/15 06:45 PM |
| 0 | Nurture or Nature?That's a whole different argument that doesn't pertain at all to this particular thread of thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:56 PM |
| 0 | Nurture or Nature?But I didn't make the claim, either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Nurture or Nature?Enough said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Nurture or Nature?Beyond the news stories and other anecdotal evidence presented by the red pill, what evidence do you have that suggests to you that rejecting the feminine to become masculine "makes on happier and more successful?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Nurture or Nature?I hope I won't offend you but "yes, there are both ingrained and learned differences, but we can't find out which are more important and which are not" is something I encounter in meek people who are more concerned with maintaining internal consistency rather than getting objective truth, and who use this to simply handwave all this stuff away and think of unicorns and rainbows. This type of thought process, which belittles the recognition of uncertainty that we have on human nature, will stop y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Nurture or Nature?Your point presupposes that rejecting the feminine to become masculine makes one happier and more successful. How can you possibly figure that one AUTOMATICALLY follows the other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Nurture or Nature?I think nature feeds nurture in terms of our tendencies. I would be open to the idea that most of our behavior is governed by nature. Then you run into a problem with the red pill. They feel that nature governs a lot, too, but the difference between us is they think they have biology locked down pretty tight. In reality, the human mind is quite complex, and looking at any one behavior and saying "That's caused by hypergamy." is lazy and misinformed. This goes double for people who have never act… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:15 PM |
| 1 | The anger in TRP is nothing more than a male inability to adapt to change.Men don't deal well with female dominated environments because they tend to be hostile to men. Even when they aren't, men do not enjoy these environments because they are limited and boring and emphasise safety over creativity. I work in a female-dominated environment, doing a job that is something like 70-80% female, and not one of those things is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/15 06:06 PM |
| 5 | ChangeMyView: TBP says "If you are born to unfortunate circumstances; deal with it." TRP says "Apply yourself!"Whichever model I subscribe to, will determine the rest of my life. I truly feel I am at a crossroads and I have no friends or reliable family to consult. I am alone with my thoughts and the opinions of the internet. Here's your problem: rigidity. You can take whatever pieces make the most sense from any given ideology and reject the whole. The Red Pill suggests a lot of common sense ideas, including getting an education, improving your physical health, and gaining confidence in yourself. They a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/15 01:40 PM |
| 1 | The culture counter point to red pillAh, here you've lapse into group selection. That doesn't work. Evolution science doesn't work that way. Only individuals are selected genetically, not groups. Individuals are not the drivers of natural selection. Genes are. Cooperative group hierarchy ensures individual sets of genes are selected more consistently. Thus, we agree that humans are cooperative, and I'm sure we can agree this would be an advantage in line with promoting the selection of cooperative genes. This argues directly agains… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Why is it vile to "demand" sex but okay to "demand" a relationship?If women aren't "machines where you put in niceness and get sex in return" why is it okay to assume that men are "machines where you put in sex and get commitment"? The Red Pill already answers this question. Women's sexuality is something not to be given lightly, according to our society. If a man has 20 relationships, then nobody bats an eye. If a woman has 20 sexual partners, then you have something that must be investigated to make sure she's not a slut. This is a recurring theme in red pill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 12:37 PM |
| 1 | The culture counter point to red pillThis is all well and good, and I would certainly agree that sexuality in itself is a natural phenomenon. No contest. But where TRP begins to wade into muddy water is with what drives sexuality, what the sexes find attractive, etc. "Attractiveness" is a very malleable concept, which is evidenced by the numerous examples throughout history. You can argue that many of these traits (getting fat, men wearing high heels, wigs, etc) are expressions of status, which is what the women are really attracte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Let's say, hypothetically speaking, the "Dad Body" did actually become what women craved from a raw, visceral, and sexual standpoint. How, if at all, would this change the idea that /r/theredpill "just gives women what they truly want"?The answer here is that the red pill is oversimplifying the whole concept. Mustang_mike comments below The part of TRP that is concerned with self improvement would say "don't be unhealthy just to get girls" because that's silly. This kind of mentality is consistent with the red pill in general. The "dad bod" typified in the picture in the article is not necessarily the body of an unhealthy man. Just like the "plus sized" models that many red pillers chide as disgustingly obese aren't unhealthy.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Blue pills/feminists verify just how correct Red pill values areA core tenet of TRP is that males, unlike females, have no inherent value unless they themselves create it. This is a core tenet that is based on solipsism on the part of the red pill bloggers and writers. For every example of women receiving the pussy pass, you can find another where a woman fights for every inch of ground she gained in her career or in terms of getting respect. And that value comes through what? Money, status, good looks, and above all SUCCESS WITH WOMEN. If you have none of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/15 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Why should I reject the red pill?[citation needed] There is a burgeoning literature on the mating habits of bonobos, with several good books summarizing the similarities between us and them. One example is Sex at Dawn, and there are quite a few basic science reports comparing our genomes to those of bonobos and chimps. We're about the same distance from them genetically, leaving an open question as to whether we're more like one or the other. While I find theorycrafting about why to be interesting, it's basically intellectual m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/15 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Why should I reject the red pill?Women decide who has sex (apart from rape), and that will usually be the person with the best genes, who will tend to be the at the local maximum, which is often labelled 'alpha'. So you devoted one sentence to this, the staggeringly longer portion of our evolution. And you did so without really considering if it's true or not. We have two equidistant primate relatives, chimps and bonobos. We tend to assume we're basically like chimps, which exhibit the social hierarchy you talk about (alpha, be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/15 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Why should I reject the red pill?How do you justify calling my point bullshit and then confirm it? The vagina selects sperm. That's the only point I made, and then I referenced the potential for this form of selection to be stronger than mate selection. Nowhere did that imply that women are just vaginas. I'm saying that fitness, as far as genes are concerned, may or may not be related entirely to fitness of the body. You could have a fat, lazy lump of a man with extraordinarily healthy sperm. If he has sex, he is more likely to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/15 11:57 AM |
| 6 | Men 7x more likely to leave wives with cancerThe reason I made that point is because it's clear to me that the OP's purpose is little more than "lolol!! you TRPers think men are perfect lolol!!" and I felt that this was a great learning opportunity for you guys. TRP doesn't react to things the way you assume. Ok, then I do understand your purpose here. I would caution against lumping me into "you blue pillers." I'm not of that cut. At the same time, there are an awful lot of red pillers who refuse to react in the way you say they should. P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 08:14 PM |
| 0 | Fat feminism (fat acceptance) is stupidLung cancer kills you pretty quickly, in general. Diabetes and heart disease are manageable chronic conditions. I'm not saying they're any less serious, but ask 100 people on the street which one of those three they want to see a cure for, and I bet lung cancer tops it easily. "Why hasn't the same thing happened to those who have seen family members die from diabetes, heart attacks, strokes or other things as a result of overeating, a just as needless vice." Well for one, you need to eat, so the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Why should I reject the red pill?""The thing is, I've never seen this NOT be true. Do I believe it's 100% true in all cases, always? Of course not. If you can reverse roles and keep things stable and successful, nothing wrong with that. However, I have never found a woman who wants to be the captain for very long. The problem here is when both people enter into their relationship with an expectation and one person changes. When the woman captains and then decides not to, you have two first mates and the ship goes nowhere. If th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 07:55 PM |
| 3 | Fat feminism (fat acceptance) is stupidI think you're missing your own point, in this case. I'm talking about the Inquisition and the hundreds of years that church rules Europe. I believe you're talking about the shame that people feel for, say, having sex. But do you think the shame is a real deterrent from having premarital sex? It's pretty rampant, and only in the most regressive, oppressive households have I seen it actually work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Fat feminism (fat acceptance) is stupidPer the original examples you gave, I find it absurd to think about the criminals out there who wouldn't be criminals if only society had shamed them more. And, no, I don't think shaming has "absolutely no effect." I'm saying in the case of fat shaming, you might be engendering the opposite of what you want, assuming what you want is for fat people to lose weight. That was the point of my original post. As for smoking, that is a more complex relationship where your habit has been directly linked… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 07:35 PM |
| 11 | Men 7x more likely to leave wives with cancerFirst, I don't need to be taught about the red pill. To the point, you said "Here is a truth about human nature and a reality of the world that you live in: men are much more likely to leave a wife who gets sick. If you are a married woman with cancer, you are in danger of having this happen to you. It sucks, but this is your reality." This study doesn't necessarily talk about human nature. It talks about a likelihood for a man leaving a sick woman. I'm telling you an equally likely explanation … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Fat feminism (fat acceptance) is stupidWe imprison thieves, pedophiles, rapists, and murderers. Just shaming them wouldn't stop them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 07:16 PM |
| 5 | Fat feminism (fat acceptance) is stupidCatholic church didn't shame people. It killed people. That's different. Also, shaming doesn't stop the behaviors that are typically shamed, it just makes them need to be hidden. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 07:16 PM |
| 10 | Men 7x more likely to leave wives with cancerBut the discussion of this paper talks about how the likely explanation is that men are unattuned to assume a caregiving role for a spouse. This trashes your "Red Pill Truth," which implies that this is naturally how women are. It does not necessarily follow that this is a "truth of human nature." There is an equally likely explanation, that men are socially conditioned to be less nurturing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Fat feminism (fat acceptance) is stupidI think both sides of this issue are fucking stupid. 1) TRP and the like, "Fat acceptance is stupid." I agree to a certain point here, that we don't need to coddle people, and in most cases there is a positive change fat people could make to help their lives. BUT, shaming people does not change them. It just makes them feel shame. There have been studies done on the difference that joining fat acceptance communities can have on weight loss. Paradoxically, joining fat acceptance groups is more ef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Why should I reject the red pill?I started up a reply and accidentally killed it with alt-backspace. I just wanted to acknowledge your cogent reply as such and say I generally agree with what you're saying. I also wanted to address a few specific points: 1) The toxic ideas like "women are dogs/children" does not come from anger phase posters. It comes straight from the top, from TRP-endorsed contributors like GLO and Archwinger who talk about women around them in their lives as "little piggies" who they can toy with. It's not j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 06:43 PM |
| 5 | Why should I reject the red pill?Getting to an understanding of what women want is a powerful goal, and I understand your point with saying the side bar is the salad bar. However, you assume that most people are capable of differentiating the good from the garbage, and I've seen too many impressionable, young, sad people read and internalize the bad with the good. It's what I would have done at that age, too. The problem with the angry stuff and the bullshit going unchallenged is that it creates an echo chamber, wherein you get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 03:40 PM |
| 7 | Why should I reject the red pill?The essential problem of TRP is not necessarily that it has bad ideas. It's that those bad ideas are force-fed to you among the good, COMMON SENSE ideas. For example, some good advice from TRP: 1) Get your physical fitness in order, including diet, exercise, and sleep 2) Do not allow people in your relationships to walk all over you 3) Better yourself through exploration of hobbies and education These are firm and sound principles: work on yourself, and people will probably find you more compell… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Why should I reject the red pill?One problem is that while the actual Red Pill forum is a salad bar, they only offer meat. Anything resembling a viewpoint that does not agree with the sidebar gets you labeled as a concern troll or feminist, and you get banned pretty quickly. So you're not being presented with all options, and if you go to TRP, you read a certain set of principles that are strictly enforced. There are many anger phase posts. There are many misogynistic posts. There are many posts filled with bullshit facts (ie, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/15 02:44 PM |
| 2 | Do most red pillers make generalizations about women's nature but reject generalizations about men's nature?Because for a lot of red pill men, the one sided nature of the debate is what allows them to feel a moral superiority over women. It then clouds their interactions with a whole gender. If they were actually introspective, they'd realize that women aren't different from men, necessarily, in most ways. And then you'd come to realize that there is no one sexual strategy. What works for you may not work for me. What works on my wife probably won't work on the girls you chase. A more thorough underst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/15 12:32 PM |
| 0 | Do most red pillers make generalizations about women's nature but reject generalizations about men's nature?Before I was banned, I read TRP for over a year. Never once was there a scientific study used to credibly validate TRP principles. Their scientific analysis is based on what they presume from evolutionary theory. They never actually critically analyze their ideas, nor do they ever stretch beyond what is right in front of them with respect to said evolutionary theory. And that's a shame, because it's actually a whole lot more complex than they ever let on. Alpha male theory of humanity is one exa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/15 12:24 PM |
| 1 | AWALT doesn't need to be true in order to be useful||Even though the chance of a random man you meet being a rapist is far lower than the chance of a random woman you meet being 'like that', we don't seem to have campaigns from men saying 'we need to teach women to be loyal' or 'don't teach men not to be beta, teach women not to be hypergamous' - although, I suppose Christianity did that with marriage vows, 'for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health'.|| To be fair, the consequences of failing to identify a bona fid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/15 02:41 PM |
| 30 | "Partner Count Doesn't Matter" vs. Medical RealityThis is all true, but would it not also be an argument against men being promiscuous? They are at just as high a risk, especially with rising promiscuity in general. The Red Pill's primary issues with women in particular being promiscuous relates to other factors, not primarily STIs. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/03/15 11:33 AM |
| 7 | A Biological Reason for Slut ShamingThen how do you explain the preponderance of cultures that do not slut shame? Or perhaps the case of the polynesian tribe that believes a woman cannot fully form a baby without the input of the seed of many men? These are a few findings that suggest that the phenomenon of slut shaming is closer to fully cultural rather than biological. If it were a biologically selected trait, then you would observe the phenomenon evenly across humanity, but it is not universal, like the presence of our lungs an… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/03/15 02:08 PM |
| 1 | "Male genes more important" - says Science.No, there's literally NO evidence at this time that it's true in humans. This despite what we have learned from studying animals. You'll notice if you pull up the paper that they do not try and draw sweeping conclusions about what this means for HUMAN biology, which is why the researchers are responsible, and Discovery and Time Magazine are sensationalized. "although all signs point to it being so" does nothing but expose your particular bias on the matter. This is an interesting study with inte… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/03/15 07:03 PM |
| 1 | "Male genes more important" - says Science.Only the study didn't say this. It's a conclusion by the non-scientific media to run with "you are more like your dad." The study says this in mice, and it expects it to be true of all mammals, since we are similar in evolutionary terms. However, the study did not support any conclusion about people. The truth is that it may not be true in humans at all, not even close. We're similar in certain ways to mice, and we differ dramatically in many. I would avoid extrapolating the results of this stud… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/03/15 06:54 PM |
| 23 | The facets of AWALT|AWALT isn’t just a reminder or warning. It’s like a battle cry, reminding you to always be on the upward trend. To always be the best. And to always become better. Because if you’re anything less, you’ll lose respect. AWALT is also our comfort. There’s always someone better, and always just the right circumstances. Maybe your woman will surprise you by demonstrating a greater tolerance than you thought she had, but if she doesn’t, and you know you did your best, and were the best version of you… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/02/15 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Testosterone levels in long term relationships.I agree with borubonhipster below. Every one of hose things was fully in the guy's control. If he wanted her to be attracted to him, then he needed to take the initiative and maintain his body and state of mind. He can't control what she does. There is absolutely no sense in ascribing blame to the woman in this situation. Even if she was fucking him on the regular and making meals and generally lowering stress, the dude was still sabotaging everything for himself. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/02/15 12:32 PM |
| 1 | How many of you tried numerous relationships and found they're just not for you?A pair of my best friends have been married since one week after we got married, and they have always been quite happy with each other. I'd say my experience, in general, is somewhat the norm with people I know. For the most part, people I know in marriage and long-term relationships are happy with that. But to say I think it's the norm would be solpsistic. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/02/15 04:07 PM |
| 3 | How many of you tried numerous relationships and found they're just not for you?I suppose so. I would not characterize what I do as leading. More I am comfortable liking what I like, and we both encourage each other to get better, much of the time. It's not always like that, but that's a good general rule. And as far as being alpha goes, there definitely must be different classes if I'm one, because I could never go into a bar and pick someone up. Just wouldn't happen. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/15 09:20 PM |
| 2 | How many of you tried numerous relationships and found they're just not for you?1) I was 23, she was 22; we started dating when I was 19, and we were acquaintances for a good 5 years before that 2) She had partners, but she did not have a desire to be promiscuous. I won't divulge details since those are hers to divulge and not mine, though. 3) We both have good families, all in all. She has her problems with how patriarchal her entire family can be, due to religion and general doting on boys (eg, she was scolded for wanting to play with "boy" stuff and not girly things). On… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/15 09:18 PM |
| 2 | How many of you tried numerous relationships and found they're just not for you?She does a lot of crafting and writing, and she's a whiz-bang cook. But she does not advertise the things she makes, except to give them to family and friends as gifts. Like she knitted my brother a baby blanket, since they are expecting their first. She'll make desserts for me to take to the office and doesn't give a shit if I tell her what people thought. She's reticent to talk about what she does in social situations and generally avoids them. As for me, I can say I'm outgoing (ie, I have a l… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/15 02:15 PM |
| 3 | How many of you tried numerous relationships and found they're just not for you?I do disagree with many of your points, the ones that apply to me. I don't think women like my wife are particularly rare. My parents have had the same kind of relationship for over 30 years now, which has only gotten better for them over the last decade. My own marriage has not been all sunshine and lollipops. There's some very bad months and mediocre years before we got things sorted out. My wife is a good person and is driven, but she would very much reject the characterization of "red pill w… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/15 10:35 AM |
| 2 | How many of you tried numerous relationships and found they're just not for you?This is a good point. Long term commitment does not require marriage. We did it because WE felt it is what you do to demonstrate that commitment, but I would not recommend making that choice if it's not in you, and I know people who are happily in long term relationships who are not married. There are some benefits to being married, like the air of legitimacy, as well as legal and tax issues. But really it's more of a mindset change, too. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/15 10:26 AM |
| 66 | How many of you tried numerous relationships and found they're just not for you?I've been married for quite a few years now, and we dated for quite a few years before that. Here's my take on your 5 points: 1) This depends on your definition of boring. My wife and I are comfortable most of the time not going out and blowing money and time. Then we get together with friends on weekends and hang out to play board games. It ticks the boxes on social interaction, and we get to spend as much time as we want together. Also, it is incumbent on both partners to maintain something in… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/15 07:04 PM |
| 1 | SMV and herpesAnother possible way to avoid STDs is to enter into a committed relationship. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/15 04:50 PM |
| 3 | SMV and herpesSo what you're saying is that if you have genital herpes, don't tell anyone, and don't get a diagnosis so you can maintain plausible deniability. Re: herpes as a relatively harmless skin condition. Maybe so, but should a potential sex partner be at risk of contracting it because you want to get laid? Gonorrhea is a relatively harmless and highly treatable bacterial infection. So maybe your next partner with the clap should just let that be left a secret, because odds are she won't transmit it. T… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/15 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Father writes open letter to daughter about 50 Shades and how it is a great thing that most men today are betas.So you're saying that alpha is in the eyes of your woman. In which case the OP may be all the alpha his lady needs (assuming he is with a woman, of course). My earlier comment referred specifically to the flawed understanding of social dynamics of hunter/gatherer man, that you needed to be the leader of the tribe or you did not breed. This is not supported by what little evidence we have of pre-historic, pre-agricultural man. In terms of social dynamics today? It's a little more complicated than… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/15 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Father writes open letter to daughter about 50 Shades and how it is a great thing that most men today are betas.Then I'll rephrase. Why do I care about your opinion on the matter? You haven't substantiated anything. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/15 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Father writes open letter to daughter about 50 Shades and how it is a great thing that most men today are betas.And why should I give a shit where you put your coin? | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/15 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Father writes open letter to daughter about 50 Shades and how it is a great thing that most men today are betas.I did not misunderstand you. My suggestion was that you should think twice before allowing a movie to strengthen your beliefs. It entails a lack of critical thinking. I feel that allowing any work of fiction to strengthen your beliefs (say, in religion, or environmentalism, or politics, or sexual strategy) is bad news. This is because fiction is crafted, and all of that craft is biased in some way by the author's perspective. Perhaps you can think on certain points and then let that lead to some… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/02/15 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Father writes open letter to daughter about 50 Shades and how it is a great thing that most men today are betas.There's a difference between the pedantism you're accusing here and what I said. Note I didn't nitpick a point: I'm calling the entire argument out. There is no evidence available that humans had this alpha structure where only the leader got to breed (ala gorillas). The "alpha" having his pick may or may not be true, but that has nothing to do with my argument. Skinny gits playing guitar on stage get their pick of the women these days, even if they're complete wusses. And even that point (an al… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/02/15 12:47 AM |
| 3 | Women in ancient Rome and what is happening todayBut if you are arguing in favor of woman independence as one of if not the biggest causes of the decline of the Roman Empire, then you are willfully dismissing a whole lot of evidence of more important factors. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/02/15 12:18 PM |
| 0 | Father writes open letter to daughter about 50 Shades and how it is a great thing that most men today are betas.I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that you should not seek to strengthen your beliefs by watching a movie. Not to mention the fact that the story was written by a woman, which is something red pill men are constantly saying (don't take sexual strategy and life advice from a woman) | /r/TheRedPill | 15/02/15 12:05 PM |
| 0 | Father writes open letter to daughter about 50 Shades and how it is a great thing that most men today are betas.So his advice is setting her up to be used and abused. By whom? The people in the rich environment? | /r/TheRedPill | 15/02/15 12:00 PM |
| 0 | Father writes open letter to daughter about 50 Shades and how it is a great thing that most men today are betas.What you are describing is the exact opposite of what works in a small society. Cooperation more than domination is pivotal for survival. What you are saying is that before agriculture our ancestors all had to be alpha and the leader. Only the leader got to breed. There is no evdience that we came up this way. And you imply that the man writing the article is a good description of the scrub, when in fact he may be someone who lifts, studies, reads, and happens to be passionate about being a cari… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/02/15 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Science gives people tools to debunk feminist lies, so feminists now try to undermine science as a relevant source of knowledge.You are coming at this particular point from the wrong angle and conflating two sides. On one hand, you have the psychopath Luce iragaray. Her idiotic ideas are over 20 years old, and nobody talks about them now. She is a non factor. On the other hand, the paper up above is postulating that there is a male-centered bias in fields like evolutionary biology. I don't know if I would hyperbolize it that way, but what I can say is that there is a societal bias in evolutionary biology. Like how Victor… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/02/15 12:23 PM |
| 14 | When a woman says-"Men just can't handle a strong, independent woman."So what you're saying is that there is a large subset of people (men and women) who make excuses rather than take action. It's definitely not a phenomenon limited to feminists. I've met a lot of lazy, excuse-wielding feminists, yes, but I've also met a lot of meek and mild women who don't have the balls to do anything. On the other hand, if you go into biomedical sciences, graduate schools are teeming with women. It's still a mixture of hard workers and people who just want an excuse for why eve… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/02/15 12:51 PM |
| 0 | Does anybody else wonder what the real statistics on rape are in America?Most of them are on school campuses. And it's a lot of rapes, regardless of the population, every year. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/02/15 07:29 PM |
| 6 | Does anybody else wonder what the real statistics on rape are in America?The figure you cite is per year and cannot be effectively extrapolated to account for all women who have been victims of completed/attempted rape. So I hope nobody interprets that as "Only 0.76% of women have been raped." That's 60,000 per year. I agree with not forwarding sensationalist garbage (1 in 5), but 60,000 per annum is still pretty goddamn high. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/02/15 03:15 PM |
| 0 | The Truth And Logic Behind AWALTRight, but this particular point is not about you, specifically, in that case. We can make similar observations and arrive at different conclusions. I agree with you that it is a geographic/economic correlation, and the racial aspect is an accident. There are plenty of places where you'd stand a greater chance of being mugged by a white guy. But one point is there are people who view it as a problem with black people in general. My overall point was to demonstrate the absurdity of extrapolating … | /r/TheRedPill | 05/02/15 03:25 PM |
| 1 | The Truth And Logic Behind AWALTDrug dealers and muggers make up an incredibly small percentage of black people (and white people), so your proposal that feminism's point is not valid due to numbers is not quite in line, either. It would seem that the "difference" is more in your opinion: one point is valid to you (AWALT), and one is not (feminism). I think they're both not valid. I do agree that one should exercise caution in appropriate situations (I probably would do everything I could to avoid Detroit at night, or any city… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/02/15 02:11 PM |
| -1 | The Truth And Logic Behind AWALTAnd what if you run the swapped thought experiment? A shooter at a gun range should always expect that the gun is loaded. A man should expect that all women will align exactly with the ideals of the red pill, and he should treat all women accordingly, until they PROVE otherwise. A woman should feel fear from every man she encounters, since almost all rapists are men. Most violent crime is committed by black people, so let's be automatically cautious of black people. This is the kind of sentiment… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/02/15 12:26 PM |
| 1 | You are no longer innocent until proven guilty and must now prove you didn't rape her.Problematic and also potentially questionable. "She didn't struggle." "But I went silent because I was scared, and what kind of predator video tapes his partners anyway?" | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 08:38 PM |
| -2 | Signs of the End"Men are physically superior to women" in any context is not an incontrovertible truth. Generally true, yes. If a woman can make it, then it should be her right. She should not automatically be excluded for trying because she is a woman. I don't view this as cowtowing to the PC police, rather we're giving every potentially good soldier a chance. And by the by a lot of women will fail out. The standard should not change, I'd argue, but the possibility of pressure and forcing change shouldn't stop… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 07:37 PM |
| -16 | Signs of the EndWe've already argued that point. Keep on reading | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 07:28 PM |
| -1 | Signs of the EndI'll give you that. I'm doing my best to be careful and not step into where your experience matters. I'm not saying that men should suck up the lost standards. I'm not saying it's all pussy shit anyway. I respect people who are able to put themselves through that. But your experience in Ranger school, what am I supposed to ask about that is relevant to "the decay of our great country?" Because I can't fathom how it's related. I'd be curious to know how you got into a condition to schlep a 90-pou… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 07:03 PM |
| 0 | Signs of the EndI would like one piece of evidence that actually supports your claim. None of those do. 1) I don't give a shit what he says. How much money did he allocate to these programs? Red pill rule: actions not words. It's basic stuff. 2) Yes, couched in broader statutes talking about fostering a culture of dignity and respect, which includes preventing sexual assault. Also, how does this indicate that it's a top priority? 3) Yes, and like I previously stated, a yearly review is one of a few explicitly r… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:57 PM |
| -2 | Signs of the End| The title of my post is "Signs of the End," not "Causes of the End." The only signs you pointed out dealt with feminism. Personally, I feel a 40% (or whatever obscene number it is now) obesity rate is a far greater problem and deserves greater representation than the specter of feminism and women shouting without accomplishing anything. | I didn't say that women going to Ranger School was going to cause the collapse of civilization. I said that it is an indicator that the decay which causes sa… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:52 PM |
| 0 | Signs of the EndNo, there's no goalpost movement. Really. That quote. YOUR QUOTE. That was from your first reply to me. That was the goalpost YOU set up. Ok? You did not start out by saying "I think it sucks that the military makes sexual harassment a priority." You said that it is the sure sign of a military about to fail when it makes this its top priority. I couldn't disagree with that. That would be a total waste of time and effort. But they are not making it a top priority. You're creating a boogeyman in y… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Signs of the EndGood, then. I'm glad to hear that you know a few of the rare women. I would argue the same, that they're rare. But your opening salvo was that allowing women into Ranger school signals this greater pro-women trend that is indicative of the USA's collapse. I'm saying there are a few women who can make it, so your point is not valid. You're saying good servicewomen exist, as well. And as for two symptoms of the same disease, well..you're not railing against the disease. You're not arguing against … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:36 PM |
| -1 | Signs of the EndI don't think I'm coming through clearly. You stated, verbatim "What I can tell you is that when a military makes sexual harassment its top priority, it is indicative of serious dysfunction." This implies that you feel the military is currently making sexual harassment not a priority among many, but one of THE most important of its priorities. You have presented no evidence to this claim, except one quote from a public figure who probably doesn't want to be seen saying the wrong thing. And, agai… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:29 PM |
| -11 | Signs of the EndYes, much of the nation is obese and couldn't hack. Shouldn't you also be railing against the culture of laziness instead of feminism? If a few women get into the military who shouldn't have been, then it doesn't really make that big an impact. But if 50% of the men trying to get in fail because they're fat, then the PC police will cry fat discrimination. Cue end of civilization. Why didn't this factor in? Because you don't like feminism, and you probably don't care for the idea of women in the … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:23 PM |
| -4 | Signs of the EndYou didn't say that. You said it was mandatory training. So are my yearly reviews. That doesn't make them a top priority for my company. A top priority would entail huge commitments of time, money, and effort, on par with combat and covert operations, R&D, and other points of engagement by the military. A mandatory bullshit course does not make a top priority. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:14 PM |
| -10 | Signs of the End1) Those standards also diverge as recruits get older (at least in the army). Why is there no problem there? The standards are a bullshit minimum, anyway. I could do 3 pullups and a 30-minute 3 mile run. I don't feel that qualifies me for basic training with the marine corps. 2) Not sure what point you're getting at there. We're not arguing about whether men and women have difference rates of success. 3) What about the instances of successful integration of women into combat units? Do those disp… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:09 PM |
| -3 | Signs of the EndWhat you said related to them making it THE priority. I asked you if you really think it's going to be a top priority matter. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 06:03 PM |
| -17 | Signs of the EndRight, you assert that standards have been lowered. I can't corroborate that, as I have not participated. But you have not presented any evidence that the lowered standards are due to the PC police. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 05:47 PM |
| -2 | Signs of the EndAnd you think they're ACTUALLY making sexual harassment the top priority? Basic tenet of red pill: don't listen to what people say. Watch what they do. I'd say the essential functions of the military are still tops in the Secretary of Defense's mind. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 05:46 PM |
| -22 | Signs of the EndI made clear that I don't believe that rampant failure will cause a push for lower standards. Everyone I've ever had this debate with has agreed that the standards shouldn't be lowered because women can't hack. They have argued that certain aspects are arbitrary and should be reconsidered. But no woman interested in combat that I've met ever wanted to have the bar lowered just for them. You mention the PC hamster. That's just a fear of leftist thought. It's a bogeyman, and you'd have to present … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 05:05 PM |
| -6 | Signs of the EndI don't support changing the rules, since the rules of combat won't change for women. My hope is that reason would play out, and the women who CAN make it are given the full respect they deserve, because most women can't. Hell, most men can't. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 05:02 PM |
| -4 | Signs of the EndYou're assuming that the people in charge of special forces can't sway leaders to maintain standards. I haven't heard anybody advocating any lowering of standards for women, except in the rare cases where natural ability is lower, and the skill doesn't matter in most situations (like pull up standards, for example). What they're arguing in that specific case is...the woman can march with a heavy pack as far as she needs to and can handle the mental fatigue and the other physical tests, but she c… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 05:01 PM |
| -26 | Signs of the EndThis is asinine. The women who can handle the physical standards of the military are just as capable, because they'd have proven it. Stating that estrogen doesn't encourage muscle growth, while true, doesn't mean that all women should be barred from combat duty. And if they really desire it, they're probably willing to put in the work and have some semblance of the necessary physical assets. Should we also ban men who weight 120 pounds from combat duty, because there's no way they could be stron… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 04:48 PM |
| 1 | You are no longer innocent until proven guilty and must now prove you didn't rape her.And the evidence is often found lacking. Most of the time she could prove that she had sex, but not that it was nonconsensual. It's difficult, and consent is a feeling. In the case of rape, she did not make the decision to move forward with the interaction. I'm not talking about cases where she changed her mind. But as I alluded to in my original comment, this new direction is troubling because now the law equates the two, which is not a good proposition. I'm not sure what the point of denigrati… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 03:38 PM |
| 1 | I find TRP reading compelling, and so I'd like to read the most elegant arguments attempting to refute it. Can anyone point me in that direction?Red Pill is a collection of observations worked into a set of principles to guide your interactions. But it's not a working theory, per se. It's mostly based on experience. As such, there is no proper rebuttal that can be made. It's a social movement. Just like you can't really logically rebut socialism. You can just point to the things you don't like and the times it's been "tried" and show that it didn't work out for the societies that tried them. I feel that the core principles of TRP, that y… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 02:30 PM |
| 4 | Learn from older menI've always been transitioning to an old guy, but when I was 21 there was so much noise about what it takes to be a man. It's very easy to fall back on a set of principles that "define" you as a man. A few anecdotes included: 1) I didn't know shit, even though I was getting an education and could recite many facts. I learned, yes, but I didn't know. 2) I would get offended when women would question my masculinity in any way. I remember one party in particular when I was...probably 22. There was … | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 02:14 PM |
| 0 | You are no longer innocent until proven guilty and must now prove you didn't rape her.Reading this, it just hits me how very complicated and nasty the whole prosecution of sexual violence is. I mean, I'm sure we can all agree that rape is a problem in the world, and a lot of it is perpetrated in ways that most of us would automatically condemn (eg, having sex with a passed-out drunk woman, drugging someone and having sex, forceful rape), and the burden of proof is highly challenging, even if there was no noise from the fact that these things often happen under the influence of al… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Why women shit test.After thinking about this concept for many years, it occurs to me that this is something you can extend even further. Your boundaries will be tested by just about everyone you meet in life. Of course, any long-term relationship will present more of those opportunities from someone who has a much better idea of how to push your buttons. It would do everyone very well to consider your frame as important for every interaction, including women you'd like to be with. The added advantage is that you f… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Working out 101 for the complete noobsExactly. It's ok if you don't get those "6 weeks to 6 pax" results. Highly encouraging to know it just takes time and consistency. ANYONE can do that, not just the meatheads. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/15 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Working out 101 for the complete noobsFor what it's worth, my palms sweat profusely (feel the need to wipe my hands before shaking hands with someone), and I have not run into this problem. The nurling on the bar helps with grip, and I've never felt like slippage would be any kind of problem. Wrist stability, though, is something I've had to work on. Once, I lost focus on my wrist during a bench press, and it snapped forward under the weight of bar. Thankfully, I don't lift that heavy (it was about 145-150 pounds), so I was able to … | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/15 12:56 PM |
| 7 | Working out 101 for the complete noobsThis is the point that I wish I had grasped sooner. "Long-term commitment" does not mean 3 months. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/15 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Bryan Banks. False rape accusation. 5 years of prison. Accuser recants. The story in his - and her - own words.This is a very sad and unfortunate story. Those pictures of him really tug at your heart. I hope his career working for the NFL (though not his dream of being a pro football player) works out for him. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/15 12:16 PM |
| 2 | A lesson from 2xc of all fucking places (get ready for another influx of subs)This is a major reason why I feel that men should focus on improving themselves first and foremost, as you indicate in the OP. I'm assuming the story is true, and it is rather sad to see. The dude probably could have made a lot of headway by focusing on self improvement FIRST and then the "being a ladies man ALPHA UP" later. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/15 12:14 PM |
| 1 | "Why are you so afraid of marriage?"My "nitpicking" about your figures is not a distraction from the main issue. Risk IS the main issue, as you state. How high a risk is it? It's not 50%, which would definitely be high. I have no idea what the actual figure is. But I'd wager that anybody in here who says "marriage is a high-risk gamble" does not really have a figure in mind. It's just an inevitability for men who get married. And my major problem with it is the same that I have with rape alarmists. The figures quoted are disingenu… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/01/15 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Sports team captain, ripped, good looking, glittering military career, new job as a stockbroker - STILL BLUE PILL ... dumpedI understand full well what AWALT entails, in terms of sidebar content, red pill principles in general, and how it ends up being applied in this forum. It's not a gambit. It's an observation. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/01/15 03:53 PM |
| 1 | "Why are you so afraid of marriage?"You're taking the divorce rate and equating that to a 50% risk of getting divorce raped. I would wager that most divorces proceed amicably (relatively), like the two recent divorcees I know. They didn't want alimony or child support. They just wanted out of their relationship. The notion that divorce rape is this epidemic is not founded in anything I've read. Of course, it happens, probably a lot. But to submit a risk of 50%? That's disingenuous. And the risk can be greatly mitigated by numerous… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/01/15 12:43 PM |
| 1 | I signed up for a gym membership 3 hours ago. In 1.5 hours I'm going down for my first workout.Probably a good point, that. Since I work out alone, I'm happy to stick with something that still kicks my ass pretty well but progresses relatively slowly. As long as I'm making progress and not injured, I'm happy. And the fact that I can dominate the weight (extra reps, not much struggle) after quite a few sessions gives me the motivation to move forward. Since I'm not lifting that heavy, I think the straight and steady progression makes it easier to stay motivated. It's one of those situation… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/01/15 07:28 PM |
| 2 | Italian man who forced daughters to diet and ski for being 'too fat' guilty of abuse - 9 months prisonAnd you'll have to forgive the tone of that reply. It was fucking early in the morning. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/01/15 06:28 PM |
| 3 | "Why are you so afraid of marriage?"I agree and have seen/experienced it firsthand. I know there are plenty of terrible people out there, but I don't like to pretend I can suss them out before I know them based on exterior characteristics | /r/TheRedPill | 27/01/15 05:45 PM |
| 2 | I signed up for a gym membership 3 hours ago. In 1.5 hours I'm going down for my first workout.Many great comments emphasizing form. I would like reiterate that: form form form. It makes a big difference in your gains. It makes a bigger difference in keeping your ass out of snap city. I would also add that Stronglifts is a good program for teaching you basic stuff, but if you can't proceed on the linear progression without compromising good form, be very careful. I was doing it for a good few months, got some gains, and then I realized that my form was shit on squats, and I was hurting my… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/01/15 04:41 PM |
| 6 | "Why are you so afraid of marriage?"You are absolutely free to think and feel how you will, but your comments suggest you are not, and never have been, married. Therefore, I present my own experience to explain why I do not feel this needs to be true for every woman that you meet. I am married. My wife is smart and beautiful. She's not perfect, and we both seek to improve our station in life. That said, here are my views on your points. Divorce rape: Many women are out there who would take advantage of the pedestal that society ca… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/01/15 04:22 PM |
| 12 | Italian man who forced daughters to diet and ski for being 'too fat' guilty of abuse - 9 months prisonYou are basing a lot of conclusions on limited information. First, he wasn't jailed for the diet and skiing. He was jailed for the taunting. Read:harassment. Given the facts as presented in the article, I could come to the conclusion that his daughters were perfectly normal weight, and the dad was some crazy who decided they were too chunky, put them on a controversial diet, and pressured them into a dangerous sport that they didn't want to partake in. All the while the only thing he is saying t… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/01/15 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Sports team captain, ripped, good looking, glittering military career, new job as a stockbroker - STILL BLUE PILL ... dumpedI've done just fine for myself making as few assumptions about people as possible. Many women are exactly as you describe. Many are not. Maybe it's 99% of women are like that, but that still leaves tens of millions of women who are not. There's not really a need to get judgmental of my life and my experience with women. Or, frankly, of the women in my life, many of whom do not fit into the neat box you're describing. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/01/15 08:15 PM |
| -1 | Sports team captain, ripped, good looking, glittering military career, new job as a stockbroker - STILL BLUE PILL ... dumpedThat's my point of contention, too. You can believe AWALT all you like. Personally, I do not, because I subscribe to the opposite belief (eg, not all men are rapists, so let's not demonize all men). You can't assume things about people before you actually know them. But your comment highlights the point I was trying to make, this idea of "Hey guys I acted alpha, and this girl started dripping all over the floor. AWALT." just doesn't quite hold muster. If you find it to be a helpful principle to … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/01/15 08:12 PM |
| 5 | Sports team captain, ripped, good looking, glittering military career, new job as a stockbroker - STILL BLUE PILL ... dumpedPerhaps not a smoking gun for AWALT. More like that is one huge bitch. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/01/15 02:15 PM |
| 2 | Much of the mental "frame" draws power from the physical one. TL;DR: Why lifting is a necessity.Makes it kind of easy to know I've eaten enough, though. If it feels like a workout, then I'm getting close for that meal. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/01/15 05:14 PM |
| 3 | Much of the mental "frame" draws power from the physical one. TL;DR: Why lifting is a necessity.I can attest here. It keeps you getting stronger. But I'm a good damn eater, and eating 500 over TDEE is hard as shit if you don't eat a bunch of junk food. It sounds much easier than it actually is. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/01/15 04:09 PM |
| 2 | What makes intelligent men stay blue pill?That's fine. I've just found it's better to go through life assuming that anything you know can be uprooted at a moment's notice, given new information. This has been slammed in my face, red pill style, about spousal issues. It has been slammed in my face about friends, family, and science. I have never encountered anything that I could fully grasp, and every time I had it "down" I got slammed again. I don't feel that people are simple, but that complication is obviously different and based on l… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 08:56 PM |
| 11 | What makes intelligent men stay blue pill?One problem is that, while Truth (emphasizing the big T) IS an objective phenomenon [gravity exists, the sun is hot], our exploration of the truth is woefully incomplete [gravity is mysterious, the sun may not be so hot relative to other stars]. Therefore, it is important to reflect and recognize that we can be wrong about things we perceive as absolute truths. This can flow both toward and away from red pill principles, of course. Sometimes red pill principles can work out beautifully. Other ti… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Feminists seek wider acceptance of casual abortion to protect fragile feelings ("Take Back the Right Katha Pollitt's 'Pro: Reclaiming Abortion Rights'")[x-post to /r/TheCultureWar]Very good points. I have nothing to add there, just recognizing this fact. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Feminists seek wider acceptance of casual abortion to protect fragile feelings ("Take Back the Right Katha Pollitt's 'Pro: Reclaiming Abortion Rights'")[x-post to /r/TheCultureWar]I agree, they are not the same. But it's not quite so cut and dry. If you get drunk and drive, causing a wreck, you almost certainly have no intent to commit murder. Still, you are charged with at least manslaughter, maybe murder. No intent, but no acquittal, you are (rightly) culpable. That's also a false equivalence, but what about the following scenario: a woman who has had 5 miscarriages over the past few years wants to have a baby very badly. So she keeps trying to get pregnant, despite the… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 03:06 PM |
| 17 | The 5 Love LanguagesI've actually found it helps to rationalize the feelings of people and get at the heart of why they respond the way they do. For example, I couldn't care less about receiving gifts. For me, it's all about touch, and if I haven't gotten that, then I feel unfulfilled in my relationship. On the other hand, my wife responds more to quality time and acts of service, so I can get further with those than with a blowjob. But it carries over out of the romantic, as well. My mother-in-law is a phenomenal … | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 02:26 PM |
| 0 | Feminists seek wider acceptance of casual abortion to protect fragile feelings ("Take Back the Right Katha Pollitt's 'Pro: Reclaiming Abortion Rights'")[x-post to /r/TheCultureWar]I would submit, as per Red Pill philosophy, that hypergamy has existed in society long, LONG before feminism. And the issues you raise I agree with, in principle: 1) AF/BB is a fact of life, according to Red Pill philosophy. In effect, this has been the nature of human society since prehistory. Feminism didn't create or exacerbate it. It's always been there, and TRP just accepts that. 2) Insane post-wall women, I think, would be a highly variable experience. I've met women who sound just like th… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Feminists seek wider acceptance of casual abortion to protect fragile feelings ("Take Back the Right Katha Pollitt's 'Pro: Reclaiming Abortion Rights'")[x-post to /r/TheCultureWar]I would avoid the slippery slope fallacy in this case. Murdering a viable baby post-partum is a far cry from normalizing abortion of a fetus. I disagree that this kind of thing is a power play, which implies that women want to take some kind of power held by someone else. In this case, they want to remove a stigma from something. In a world with numerous BC options in play, many women DO see abortion as a last resort. Realistically, which is more convenient, to get pregnant and need to schedule … | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 02:06 PM |
| 0 | Feminists seek wider acceptance of casual abortion to protect fragile feelings ("Take Back the Right Katha Pollitt's 'Pro: Reclaiming Abortion Rights'")[x-post to /r/TheCultureWar]I just have it in my head the vehement pro-life folks who would in one breath condemn a woman to hell for having an abortion (no matter the reason), and then turning around and saying they'll pray for you when she has a miscarriage (which was probably not preventable). Biologically, they are both abortion. I haven't personally seen feminists try and engage this with "miscarriage is just like abortion." They understand that abortion is not an accident, but they don't feel it should carry the same… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 02:02 PM |
| 0 | Feminists seek wider acceptance of casual abortion to protect fragile feelings ("Take Back the Right Katha Pollitt's 'Pro: Reclaiming Abortion Rights'")[x-post to /r/TheCultureWar]I agree with tone. I don't care for people telling me how I should feel about something, on any level. I happen to agree with them on the matter of abortion. I don't agree with the idea that removing the stigma of abortion would lead to more responsible women. We have the pill and other effective forms of birth control, and I imagine a lot of red pillers would describe women as irresponsible enough. And I'm not sure I agree with that endgoal for feminism, or that unchecked female promiscuity wou… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Feminists seek wider acceptance of casual abortion to protect fragile feelings ("Take Back the Right Katha Pollitt's 'Pro: Reclaiming Abortion Rights'")[x-post to /r/TheCultureWar]I find it difficult to give a shit what choices women want to make about their bodies. Yes, there are exceptions, detailed in other comments: 1) The man in the relationship may want to have a child and ultimately doesn't get the say 2) If the woman wants the baby, then it is the man's job, accorded by society, to step up You can have lots of debates about the salience of both of those points, but I'm just talking in general, and especially about the problem aid out here: women using abortion as … | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Feminists seek wider acceptance of casual abortion to protect fragile feelings ("Take Back the Right Katha Pollitt's 'Pro: Reclaiming Abortion Rights'")[x-post to /r/TheCultureWar]But should a miscarriage (spontaneous abortion) saddle you with guilt the same way that vehicular manslaughter often does? I'm talking no-fault situations. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/15 01:24 PM |
| 2 | Reverse discrimination rampant in academiaThat's pretty shitty that the head of the department had that edict to fill the position with a specific type of person. In my limited view, there is a definite push to hire more women professors for tenure-track positions. However, we're talking a position, even at my relatively small school, that gets 120+ applicants, all with a good publication history, all with years of experience already under their belts. Even if there is a bias to hire women, the process is highly, highly competitive. The… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/15 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Experiencing Cheating in your Late Teens early TwentiesThat age range is generally tough, in hindsight. Many are entering college and gaining some knowledge of stuff. This inflates your ego and makes you stop actually learning. I was glad that I noticed at 18/19 that the 24-year olds were so full of themselves and so full of shit about everything. It was a cheap lesson, but not one I took to heart fully. If I could go back, I would force myself to stop being full of myself and just learn as much as possible. Don't participate in the drama. Don't pla… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/15 02:40 PM |
| 0 | How to survive working with womenGlad to receive the referral. There are times where it would be interesting to have full on debate, as opposed to relating my experiences that run contrary to some of the established principles. If I have some time, I may participate over there. With respect to the trolling accusations, nothing could be further from the truth. I have read end pill material for years now, and a lot of it has had a positive impact. but I have learned a lot, and not everything herein seems quite up to scratch. Stil… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/15 01:10 AM |
| 2 | How to survive working with womenI can't argue there, what with so many chiming in with their experiences contrary to mine. I was honestly surprised to find it so professional an environment, as in grad school there was a whole lot of the issues being described going on. I found it wasn't limited to the women. You had to be careful around EVERYONE what you said. This job has been great for me. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/15 01:06 AM |
| 1 | How to survive working with womenI'd agree, only because it's not particularly professional to spill your guts at work to anyone. They aren't there to be my friends, so I don't talk to them as such. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/01/15 09:13 PM |
| 1 | How to survive working with womenThe leaders in the company are, in fact, women. They also do all the hardest work. The president is also a hard worker, but it's not because he's a man that they do their jobs. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/01/15 09:12 PM |
| 3 | How to survive working with womenYou might be right, but it applies to even the lower rungs of the company, like the support staff. I have not run into drama that you would expect, but they are great people in general, not the hyper-competitive harpies you might expect. I would highly recommend reaching for the echelon to all would-be young men. It's challenging and rewarding, and it's nice not to know the experiences detailed in the opening post. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/01/15 09:08 PM |
| 49 | How to survive working with womenMy company and industry are largely dominated by women (my company has 3 men, the owner, the president, and me). They are all highly educated (MBAs, MDs, and PhDs) and experienced, and none of these pieces of advice are useful for dealing with them. There's no overt politicking, no clucking about men, no drama. These people are all business, and not a single one of them fits this mold that gets cast. They just want the job done. You should look for a place where the same is true for you. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/01/15 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Scientific proof of TRP: a study about the evolution of human mate choiceWhile interesting to consider, this study and the research it cites do not "prove" the red pill. There are quite a few criticisms of evo psych, in general, like the lack of testability of hypotheses, shifting cultural norms, and general inconsistency in the data (Men in countries with less economic equality have been found to prefer hip-to-waist ratios closer to 0.9). Most importantly, a lot of findings dubbed "universal" by evolutionary psychologists have often been found to be heavily influenc… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/01/15 09:09 PM |
| 15 | Realistic blue to red timeline? Would like to hear personal stories...I would consider an adjustment in your goals. Rather than "becoming red pill," which you may come to find is not amenable to you over the long term, I would focus simply on developing yourself, and let that be the focus. Yes, red pill is, at its core, supposed to be all about self improvement, but you'll get a lot of noise that can stymie your progress. Consider your stated "externals." Make more money, dress better, and develop a physique. These are not as external as you think. 1) Make more mo… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/01/15 04:00 PM |
| 3 | How to become Outcome Independent using a Stoic trickI appreciate that. Over-rumination has been one of my personal challenges in self improvement. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/01/15 02:37 PM |
| 1 | And... Another false rape accusationNobody was accused, so who gives a shit? | /r/TheRedPill | 09/01/15 02:21 PM |
| 16 | How to become Outcome Independent using a Stoic trickThis is fantastic advice without resorting to the usual generalizations that may or may not be true. It's just sound, solid prescription for how to make YOURSELF happier through mental states YOU can control, as opposed to the manipulation that is typically advocated. Thanks! | /r/TheRedPill | 09/01/15 02:17 PM |
| 1 | AlphaFux/BetaBux in new movie, women laugh out loudThat makes you sound like a really fun person to sit through movies with: "You know that Batman's cape wouldn't support his weight, right?" "Computer viruses wouldn't work on alien computers." And on and on. Why get a kick out of ruining someone else's fun? | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/15 02:06 PM |
| 2 | AlphaFux/BetaBux in new movie, women laugh out loudYou act like it was only women who would find that line funny. It's a clever lyric, not a smoking gun for red pill truths. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/15 02:02 PM |
| 3 | AlphaFux/BetaBux in new movie, women laugh out loudThat's not really the message in the book. Not sure about the movie, heard it sucked. In the book, he finds out that the boss is sterile, and that's enough for him to assume the baby is his, since he was also sleeping with his wife at the time. Foolish? Maybe, but it's not real life. And it's not a matter of doing the right thing. The whole story is about the importance of fatherhood, and the tearing that someone in midlife with no kids can feel about having them. It's illustrated by the toddler… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/15 01:54 PM |
| 2 | Whats the fucking holdup with male birth control?I can't watch videos right now. You'd need to point to an article I can read to evaluate. The supposition is that feminists brought down male birth control that is all natural, 100% safe, and 100% effective. That's three points, all either impertinent or bullshit 1) Feminists killed it: Again, I'd need to see proof here. But everytime vasalgel comes up, feminist sites like Jezebel open up the call for less hormonal birth control, saying that pharmacy companies are suppressing it and allowing the… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/14 04:28 PM |
| 1 | More monogamy makes the world less violentCan't read the article, but are you really arguing that the primary reason that people are joining IS is because they can't find a mate? Ignoring the poverty, religious extremism, virulent anti-Western rhetoric, and all-around desperation of the area for many people...but let's focus on promoting monogamy, even though there's no evidence here that monogamy would fix the problems associated with IS. And the second image is pure fantasy. The advent of Christianity did away with polygamy, and if we… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/14 01:25 PM |
| 2 | Whats the fucking holdup with male birth control?This is bullshit. Every time male birth control comes up, feminists ask the same question OP is asking, "What's taking so long." And they say that MEN are suppressing it because they don't want to take the risk of putting drugs in their bodies. Nobody is suppressing male birth control. It's harder than female birth control, and the first company that finds a suitable one is going to make bank. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/14 01:14 PM |
| 4 | It's not the red pill truths that upset the masses as much as the socially unskilled ways they are presentedI'd say there are a lot of really useful principles TRP holds, but it is also couched in some less-than-helpful stuff. There is a lot of real work out there that does not agree at all with the notion that we as humans evolved to have "traditional values." I'd highly recommend the TEDtalk Christopher Ryan: Are we designed to be sexual omnivores? for anybody interested in a dissenting opinion. I can't stand pseudoscience and bullshit facts from anyone, especially from people I have a mind to agree… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/12/14 08:13 PM |
| 6 | It's not the red pill truths that upset the masses as much as the socially unskilled ways they are presentedOne of them is false by your reckoning. In the mind of the person saying it, it is a perfectly rational thought backed up by data. I'm not saying I personally believe it to be true. I'm saying they have the same conviction. Red pill folks do it all the time, as well, when they're talking about evolutionary psychology and traditional values as if those are things that are perfectly understood and, more importantly, that are perfectly understood by them. And no, a lot of people are not so defensiv… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/12/14 06:24 PM |
| 26 | It's not the red pill truths that upset the masses as much as the socially unskilled ways they are presentedThis post is very useful, and a lot of people have misinterpreted it. They think you're saying to go ahead and be angry and alpha, that as long as you disguise yourself correctly, you can slip in and subvert the machine that is feminazism. These kinds of thoughts shouldn't need to be a trojan horse. The visceral reaction that people get to red pill "truths" presented poorly should be a big tell there. It should clue you in to one of several things: 1) You suck, or 2) You're wrong It would be wor… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/12/14 06:15 PM |
| 11 | It's not the red pill truths that upset the masses as much as the socially unskilled ways they are presentedThis is not an accurate observation on the opening post. It's not the truths at all that bother people; it's the way they're delivered. Case in point, I imagine you can agree that rape is bad. Let's mock up a conversation: Feminist: Men rape women; 1/4 of all women will be raped, and it represents the single biggest threat to women in America! versus Feminist: I think rape is a serious problem that is underreported in this country. If you were having a real conversation with these two people, yo… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/12/14 05:48 PM |
| 11 | It's not the red pill truths that upset the masses as much as the socially unskilled ways they are presentedThis misses the point entirely. Go up to a person who is apt to disagree with you and just switch out a few words. Everything about the delivery and the attitude surrounding it affects how you will be perceived if you want to talk red pill. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/12/14 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Women with premarital sexual partners and those that have cohabited with men before marriage are not relationship material.Well, the preference for low count women may not be natural at all. We've had 5000 years of society to grind it into our collective conscious that this is what men want. Personally, when I'm really honest with myself, I don't give a shit about how many men a woman has had sex with. The only thing that matters to me for my relationship with my wife is that I'm the best she's had, which has not been an issue. And would a virgin have been prized in a small society? That's pretty hard to say. Eviden… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/10/14 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Women with premarital sexual partners and those that have cohabited with men before marriage are not relationship material.Actually, the evidence suggests the opposite, that small bands of people all contributed to raising children, and it was more likely that children would come to see all adults similar to a parent. There are small societies that exist this way now, as a matter of fact. Hell, some societies believe that one man alone can't make a baby. It takes copulation with a lot of men in order to fully form the fetus. So your assumption is not a given. It may not be true. An alternate explanation for "passing… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/10/14 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Women with premarital sexual partners and those that have cohabited with men before marriage are not relationship material.No, there is no family unit in these "societies." That's my point, along with the fact that humans lived that way for far longer than they have lived in civilized society. The point I was contesting was "every traditional culture for the entirety of human history." However, for 90% or more of human history, we have not been civilized. We have not lived in family units. We have not had monogamy. We have not had the concept of "slut," because there was no need to prove paternity, because an entire… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/10/14 04:55 PM |
| -8 | Women with premarital sexual partners and those that have cohabited with men before marriage are not relationship material.In almost every traditional society that has not been attacked by Western feminism, a woman was considered "damaged" if she wasn't a virgin on her wedding day. Now, there could be two things going on: 1- Every traditional culture for the entirety of human history was wrong .... The problem here is that point #1 may not be far off. There's substantial evidence that prehistoric man lived without "traditional" pair bonding. That is, prior to the advent of agriculture, when "societies" comprised aro… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/10/14 03:11 PM |
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